Misfits Bible, Number 301 Wednesday, February 26th 1997 Today's Topics: VIOLENT WORLD - one more damn review. Re: Misfits Bible #300 Re: Nothing To Do With The Misfits RISE ABOVE 4 HITS FROM MARS re: danzig as wolverine Re: Skrewdriver and why I'm glad Ian Stuart and Joe Rowan are dead READ THIS YOU BASTARDS! This and that ... Danzig movies Little creatures at play come to life At the thought of another devious night... Get a new CD player! earth ad limited ed. gold cd Re: Three hundred already?! Kiss here we go again ... Sorry! but I have to know. Misfits Portfolio I misfits cover songs Old vinyl Race and Religion 4 Hits from Mars auction(whats left) auction(whats left) Looking for Vinyl Danzig's Art Problems? Misfits tribute Bootlegs n' Skrewdriver What Hath Caroline Wrought? stuff for sale Avoiding the scam... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:57:23 PST Subject: VIOLENT WORLD - one more damn review. From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) I just got my copy of VIOLENT WORLD, thanks to Tom B - the only person at CAROLINE who ever showed me any respect. Here's my view on this. In general; it's an interesting piece of work. I'm not gonna go into detail on every song, but I will make a few points. Part of the beauty of THE MISFITS music is in it's simplicity. For that reason, I'm not too crazy about GOLDFINGER and NOFX's somewhat quirky rythms in otherwise good renditions of those songs - so what, some of the words aren't right. I used t o sing "One sweet breath / One last caress". My two favorites are TANNER's take on T.V. CASUALTY. Kinda reminded me of PERE UBU (that other band on that other BLANK RECORDS) with the disonant, strained harmonies; and FARSIDE's version of RETURN OF THE FLY. I'll bet this is Glenn's favorite. Glenn always like to sing lounge versions of FITS tunes - and I can just picture him snapping his fingers and singing it this way after downing a half pint of Bacardi 151 proof and Coke. Most disappointing - and this is based on one listen, now; was LONDON DUNGEON, by PRONG. I think this was the only really weak track on the CD. Honorable mention goes out to DEADGUY for coming up with the idea of doing HB off of EVIL LIVE and including Glenn's comments. All in all . . . I think this record does justice to the songs. I doubt CAROLINE will get rich off this though, so don't feel bad if you've bought it. The cover art - that's another story. ------------------------------ From: mk Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #300 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:05:23 -0500 (EST) > From: misfit > Subject: CD's > > My offer to make CD's from your Fit's tapes/cd's/records is still up for > $16.. email me at misfit@dreamscape.com for more info.. It worked for me. Definitely try it with Matt Villnave if you have any interest in doing it at all. > From: Julian Baldry > Dream band: > > Vocals: Paul Stanley/ Gene Simmons > Guitar: Ace Frehley/ Paul Stanley > Bass: Gene Simmons > Drums: Peter Criss > > Now if that lot ever got together you'd see some REAL ticket prices.... Yeah, I seem to remember spending $56 two nights in a row back in October for a lineup like that. > From: Smith > Subject: IRC > > What would it take to get Jerry or Doyle or Graves on #misfits? You know > like a little Q&A session. Well, I'll stop dreaming now. Well, Graves used to do IRC over the summer, and Bobby Steele has paid a visit or two to #misfits in the past. > From: WOLFER138@aol.com > Subject: BIBLE!! > > >Actually the Max's Kansas City 7" bootleg was recorded at the April 17, 1982 > >show in Los Angeles. See what I mean? Bootleggers are full of shit. > >Nobody but Jerry has a copy of the Max's show. > > How can u be sure about this? How can I be sure about what? I know Jerry has a copy of the full show from December 22, 1978. As for the Max's Kansas City bootleg, of course it's Al's Bar 1982. Listen to it. The tracks on the 7" were taken directly from the live tape of the show that has been circulated all over the world. A lot of Misfits bootlegs were taken from this very show, including the BLOOD bootleg that just came out in November. > From: cooper15@hsonline.net > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:51:16 -0600 > Subject: Non-Recorded MISFITS Songs > > I was going through Misfits Central, and has anybody ever seen this? I've seen it a million times. I wrote it, and Ryq Hinojos just posted it to the bible about 2 weeks ago. I got all this information from Jerry and some of the early Misfits, as well as from interviews with Glenn and Jerry in the old days. > From: HORRORKID > Subject: GLENNS PROBISCUS/SAL WHO?? > > First I have a question for all the hardcore fans..DID GLENN GET A NOSE > JOB?????? I mean in some of the pictures in the boxed-set and on quite a > few videos Glenn seems to have a..well shall we say different nose.Am I > the only one to notice this or has this been addressed before? Yes, this was posted to the bible around the time that the box set came out. According to the Samhain guys, he got 2 nosejobs during the Samhain time period. Have you ever seen a Samhain picture without a bunch of hair covering Glenns' face? > Secondly..WHO THE HELL IS SAL BEE???? > . From what I have figured out he is(or was) the singer for Dr.C.H.U.D's > old band..But why is he singing with the boys on two of the new 'fits > vids I have? I mean I would be pissed to go to a show expecting the see > the MISFITS and there is this bald guy in a sweater acting like a > chicken while he sings HORROR BUSSINESS!! Sal Bee is the singer of Sardonica, Chud's old band, but there's more to it than that. He has also serves the band as their loyal soundman, stage hand, and all around helper, and for about 3 years sang with the Misfits during their practice sessions before they found Michale. To pay him back, they had him come out to sing "We Are 138" at almost every show they did in March-May of '96, as well as some other stops. > From: Initium9@aol.com > Subject: Thrall/demonsweatlive > > I got thrall/demonswealtlive, and it doesn't have mother as the 93rd song. > There is no 93rd song. it stops at song seven. Does anyone else have one > like this? Is it worth anything? This is the first press which was out for about 6-9 months before the 93 track reissue came out. I haven't heard of it having any special value. > From TIM > > Also, I have a chance to get a MiSFiTs promo from the box set. It > has 16 songs on it, and was made exclusively for radio play. How much is > it worth? As far as I remember, there were only about 2800 copies of this made. It's a cool CD, but not worth paying big bucks for... I gave my copy away months ago. mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:37:45 -0500 From: dan sylvester Subject: Re: Nothing To Do With The Misfits Dream Band: Walter Schreifels (Gorilla Biscuits/Quicksand)- Guitar/Vocals Timmy Taylor (Brainiac)- Guitar/Moog/Vocals David Wm. Simms (The Jesus Lizard)- Bass Eli Janney (Girls Against Boys)- 2nd Bass/Moog/Backup Vocals John Stanier (Helmet)- Drums I told you it had nothing to do with the Misfits ------------------------------ From: DOYLE341@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:07:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: RISE ABOVE I bought a bootleg 7" recently called "Return of the Fly", and it has a live version of the Misfits doing Black Flag's "Rise Above". Has anyone heard of this? Personally I don't think it is the Misfits, but all the other live tracks are. Just Curious. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:08:53 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: 4 HITS FROM MARS > From: mk > Subject: 4 Hits From Mars > This tribute was made for us by Jake. There are 300 copies out there > (100 black, 100 orange, 100 blue) and I don't know how long they'll > last, so get $4 out to Jake and you can have this nifty 7". > I think this tribute captures the more 'raw' and less 'professional' > sound that the Misfits had. Those of you who don't like VW will probably > this one better. Support Jake and the Misfits Bible band members (Tom > Undermine, Tim Cotter, J Forness and of course Chris Ternes) by picking > this up. In the worst case you can just keep it because it looks neat. i couldn't have said it better myself! thanks, mark! and thank you to the four bands and all who have already bought a copy! > Subject: 4 hits from hell > From: Ray Brennan > just got my copy of "4 hits from hell". ..great lofi shit (138) to > this isn't the phony shit but from the heart with a fuckin' knife. My > favorite cut? "We Are 138".........In my opinion, Violent World CD is a > loser; do yourself a favor - get the "4 Fucking Hits from Hell". thanks, ray! even tho it's called 4 HITS FROM MARS, not hell! i still write "hell" all the time myself! listen to the man... buy the 7"! > From: Tarry Carapezza > Subject: My ultimate show > INDIE STAGE > Misfits > Adam West (of course) one day soon, tarry! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:30:02 -0500 From: Paul Koziej Subject: re: danzig as wolverine I think it was about two years ago that wizard magazine came out with a list of who would play who IF there ever would be an x-men movie. I cant remember what the whole list was but I know glenn was chosen as wolverine, yule brener was chosen for xavier and iman was chosen for storm. If I can come across the whole list I'll put it up, but for now this will have to do. ************************************************ * WHEN I'M GOD EVRERYONE DIES!! * ************************************************ ------------------------------ From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano Subject: Re: Skrewdriver and why I'm glad Ian Stuart and Joe Rowan are dead Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:52:08 -0500 The reason I say Skrewdriver were a failure as a band is because they had to sell out to the National Cunts, (err I mean National Front - oh I was right the first time, sorry) to get their name more noteriety. They deserve to get passed over. The fact that you described Resistance's double tribute album with such apparent love and accuracy shows me and everybody else on the Misfits Bible where you fall on the food chain. As far as I am concerned, any artist that would come right out and encourage the genocide of other human beings on the basis of skin tone does not deserve to breathe. This goes for Shitdriver, Nordic Thunder, Rahowa and everybody else on Resistance and their ilk. Any asshole reading this that dares to try and bring up any black rap album that they claim has anti-white lyrics is going to die trying, because none ever existed and ever will exist. I accessed the Resistance website once just to see how hall-spawned these demons were, and the next time I access it, is going to be to plant so many bugs and bad wavs and gifs it won't be funny. If one good punk album track could express the way I feel about the Nazi/Klan plague, it would be the opening montage at the beginning of WarZone's "Open Your Eyes" where Raybeez and company have the sound effect of Hitler and a beerhall full of Nazis being atombombed. End of fuckin' story. Anybody wishing to help wipe out the Nazi/Klan plague should start out by getting inspired, and I can think of no better place to start than by reading The Autobiography Of Malcolm X and Ice-T's "The Ice Opinion", seeing the movies Malcolm X, Get On The Bus, and Schindlers' List, and listening to the following albums: Bob Marley's "Burnin'", "Natty Dread" and "Rastaman Vibration", Public Enemy's "It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back" and "Fear Of A Black Planet", Professor Griff's "Pawns In The Game", Ice Cube's "Death Certificate", and Ice-T's "Home Invasion", all of which are easily available. And by the way Beowulf, the next time you want to call me names, I suggest you call me them to my face. I may have a goofy nickname but I like it and at least I don't hide behind a pseudonymn like some people I could mention. Sorry to all the people who have e-mailed me, including Bobby Steele, saying they appreciate my posts, especially my more humourous ones, but as someone of mixed Italian/Sioux Indian/Irish parentage who was brought up essentially under the same ideals that Martin Luther King and Malcolm X espoused, I won't let any of these Nazi/Klan faggots--and that's exactly what they are, because they aren't real men--pass by without speaking out, and I hope the rest of you feel and act the same way towards them, at least I think so. Please don't prove me wrong. And Mark, I'm sorry this post is so fucking long, but it's important and I wouldn't be typing all this if I wasn't. Also Mark, I hope you get to keep the MB going independently outside of your college, even if some of us musical Misfits fans, myself included, have to put out a compilation of some sort to raise cash (how about it guys?). CJ Carey aka "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:50:12 PST Subject: READ THIS YOU BASTARDS! From: misfit6x3@juno.com (Just some Fiend) Fiends and Mark, I'm a little behind on reading bibles, but I've just read the post that Bobby made about everyone pitching in to keep this thing going.(issue 299) I think its a damn good idea! I would gladly pitch in some $ to keep this and Misfits Central going. We can't just let all that we've built fall down! Mark has worked his ass off FOR US. Tell me Mark. How much $ do you get for doing this? Didn't think so. Listen you 1000 people! Lets work together to keep this going! Anyone got any thoughts or suggestions? We have to do something now before we lose this. JuStIn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:15:44 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: This and that Ok - if Mark needs the cash to keep this going - I'll put up my share. The $25 thing. I agree that ticket prices are getting completely out of hand lately - hell I just paid $54 each for a pair of Kiss tix. Metallica was a bit more reasonable - at $37, but hey - that's an arena show with all of the attached overhead. $25 to see a band with one truck-load of equipment and a few roadies......I don't know. That just ain`t right. Its not bitching - I firmly agree that no one is forced to pay for it if they don't want it - but it is kind of steep. Unless this one-off gig is a charity / fund raiser kind of thing. Or are there several bands on the bill - that's different if you've got 5 bands all getting a cut. As for someone mentioning that place in jersey w/ no security, etc. I don`t think they care - that's what Memory Lane was like in Baltimore on the 10/30/96 show. It was just a total clusterfuck. AZ - let me know if you tape that D GEN show. I plan on trying to do it down here on the 2nd. BTW - your tapes went out a bit late (just last Friday) - sorry. I had more to say, but I gotta go play school now. If any of you ever thought taking a college stats course was boring - try teaching one. I'm surprised I don`t put myself to sleep. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Stephen Gorny + Department of Psychology + University of MD Baltimore County + 1000 Hilltop Circle + this is the static age we live in Baltimore, MD 21250 + + sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:44:31 -0800 From: Grandpa Atomic Subject: ... First off, some dumb bastard wrote: >About all this Skrewdriver (yes people it's spelled with a "k") vs. >GG shit... One: Skrewdriver had more influence on a worldwide music >scene than GG ever did, so don't try to compare them in regards to their >impact. Two: Ian Stuart wasn't a sick fuck. Three: Contrary to what The >Righteous >Black Dick says, Skrewdriver was far from a "failed punk band". The >bands >first album and songs on the United Skins comp met with much success >from >the mainstream (to this day baldies still wear their United Skins >patches, >an album which was only a success because of Ian's two tracks), but >because >of the bands Skinhead appearance and politics they were quickly >blacklisted >by the music press and clubs. The point is that if Ian wanted to he >could >have surpassed the other oi-punk bands of the day (Sham 69, etc), but he >stood strong and would not compromise or sell out (something no >ex-Misfit >can seem to manage). What!? You are WAY dumb. Let me explain the Ian Stewart thing for the IDIOTS who don't seem to realize when Ian sings songs about hanging immigrants and "Fuck the IRA" that he's a Nazi. Skrewdriver was originally a fairly left-wing Oi! band out of Great Britain. Their VERY early stuff, the first 12", some early comp tracks really doesn't show their racist tendencies. Stewart was a closet Nazi at this point, but decided he would not come out because of the fact it wasn't popular and he wouldn't get popular the Nazi way. In terms of musical chops, Skrewdriver was quite good...not as good as some other UK bands, well, not as good as a lot of UK bands, but in terms of Oi! they were quite good at the beginning, up there with guys like the Buisness. However, don't buy their stuff, there is plenty of good non-racist Oi! you can buy. Stewart got frustrated when DIY ethics didn't bring him stardom. He DID hang out with some of the punks at the time, and many a time they shared gigs with bands like the Exploited, the Buisness, etc. However Stewart did not become a star, and this is when the full-blown Nazism emerged. Skrewdriver got REALLY racist, and they didn't just talk the talk, they walked the walk. They preached violence upon minorities, white pride, and other topics only the world's biggest fucking idiots can preach. And soon, with their cult of followers, they began to act. "Paki-bashing" was the biggest thing...the large Pakistani contingent in England at the time was victim to Skrewdriver and fellow Nazi bands like Bound For Glory, Squadron, etc.'s raids. They also began to throw Nazi music fests, which have been a yearly event since 1986 or so. They also attacked the Irish. Any bands who claimed to be strongly anti-racist had their clubs raided by Skrewdriver and crew. They were the forefront of the Nazi punk scene because they did so much work to support it and because they are the most well-known, musically because they were there before the other bands and because Nazis liked to commit hate crimes better to Skrewdriver's muzak. Now onto Beowulf's comments. Ian Stewart WAS a sick fuck. You are defending a man who stated many times he'd like to kill anyone who wasn't Aryan. White Pride is NOT cool. It is one of the scariest and most fucked-up things on planet Earth. Ian Stewart's own politics screwed his chances at stardom, and he so desperately wanted stardom. Being a sellout is one thing, being a Nazi gangleader is a totally different one, and being both...yech! In terms of "influence on the worldwide music scene" they convinced a bunch of Nazis to start bands. Oooh. GG Allin was a stupid bastard too, but he hated humanity. He was a sick fuck. Thank God Ian Stewart is dead. It hurt the Nazi scene greatly. I was ecstatic when he died. Beowulf, I consider your comments to affiliate you with the Nazi movement, and for that you should be exiled from the Misfits bible and given a serious beatdown. I'd be more than happy to give it to you. Now, onto more interesting topics... Four Hits from Mars, my money's in the mail. I'm dyin' for that gold vinyl. Kudos to Jake, DIY, bro, and I'm glad I subscribed to this just in time to find out about it! You really oughtta distro it through a few places...give others a chance! Send 20 copies to Vacuum or something. He'll buy 'em, and others deserve to hear it...this closet scene is exactly why so many people don't find out about this stuff. Maybe I'll buy 20 and sell them at some NY shows. But one for me first to see how good it is. Also, to all the bands on it...very cool. If you guys want NY shows, e-mail me I'll set you up. Again, I have to hear your covers first though. As for Violent World...buy it if you want. I'm avoiding it like the plague. The music isn't good, fascist Earth Crisis are on it, and it's expensive major label sell-out rock. But Tom's a good guy, and stuck behind his project, so props Tom! Some bands I should plug...(aka bands you'd like if you like the Misfits)... HARDCORE: Half Man's new LP is amazing. Charles Bronson's singer told me an LP is on the way...they are the next DRI/Stikky/Septic Death! My band has some stuff out too. Check us out, hardcore as hell. Most hardcore I like is probably too grind for ya, so I'll stop talking about it now. Another band Fiendies should like...CR's LP is out! Woohoo! ROCKNROLL: The Devil Dogs are about the only band who can compare to the best Misfits stuff...if you haven't heard the Devil Dogs, you should go out and buy it now. Best rock band ever. Candy Snatchers, great stuff. The Jet Boys are the newest Japanese rocksters. Los Ass-Draggers, a Spanish rock band, finally did the LP for their new album, and it is FLY! 20 songs, 20 minutes. Killer. The Hookers from Kentucky do some really raunchy rocknroll, they also did some Misfits and KBD covers at recent shows...obvious taste. Their 7" is pretty dried up (everyone bought it!) but a 10" from Smut-E is supposedly on the way, and they just signed to Crypt! Yes! There's too many more rock bands out there, man, I'll stop fer today. In terms of Misfits stuff...I got a new live tape of them last weekend. I was watching it, and here's my basic call on the whole situation. From what I saw of the live show, it reminded me a lot of bands like the Necros, Exploding Corpse Action, Blood River Rockers, and other "horror punk" bands who tried to bite the Misfits' style. They sing songs with violent lyrics, they play fast rock'n'roll mayhem on wheels...but they just kinda don't seem to get it. Glenn was really the only guy who wrote lyrics that had more to them...didn't seem like teenage slasher songs...from the lyrics I've picked up on the new songs, they just sound like, well, those other bands. That's not good. In terms of the old Misfits songs...not bad...not great either. What I'm saying is rehash I know, but the Misfits owed a lot of their standing out early on to their horror image and their amazing vocalist who didn't do the larynx shred, he sang with a sort of sweet death romantics voice, and that was new. He wasn't Johnny Rotten, and didn't try to be. I dunno. I just am not too impressed. Sorry. But again, I'm waiting for the LP...as Mark said, it will settle a lot of things. Best of lucky to Jerry and the guys though, I hope they do it well, and step up to the next level...as for Bobby, I've seen Times Square live, I liked them, I like my Undead vinyl too...kudos Bobby! Not 1/2 bad! Any vinyl plans for the new Times Square? I might check it out. See y'all later. Waiting for the bomb blast, GRAMPS "I'm the hillside strangler!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:23:30 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Danzig movies Scott Perry: ----------- If there ever was any real discussion of Glenn playing Wolverine in the movies, it's apparently off now. This won't happen. What seemingly WILL happen is that Glenn will play a rebel angel in "The Prophecy II" (with Christopher Walken) appearing this summer or fall. As far as Marvel not wanting Glenn to play the part because he's "competition" -- please. NOTHING Verotik does can be construed as competition for Marvel. And Glenn Danzig does not equal Verotik comics, anyway... it's not like he's sitting there at a little publishing house toiling away on each issue that comes out of there, or anything. Horrorkid: ---------- One story I've heard says Glenn actually had TWO nose jobs... once, because Jerry (or somebody) accidentally busted his nose with the head of a guitar. (Yeah, and if you believe THAT one... pretty boy Glenn...) :-) NEIL ------------------------------ From: she@udel.edu Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:35:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Little creatures at play come to life At the thought of another devious night... anyone else think that goldfinger's ghouls night out kind of sounds like ghouls night out [if it was] done by Weird Al? Listen to it again. he he he btw Does anyone know anything about the show that was going to be on the 28th? your fiend, Leah ------------------------------ From: Craig Wieczorkiewicz Subject: Get a new CD player! Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 17:57:25 CST > I got thrall/demonswealtlive, and it doesn't have mother as the 93rd song. > There is no 93rd song. it stops at song seven. Does anyone else have one > like this? Is it worth anything? Your disc isn't defective, your CD player just doesn't recognize anything after all those blank tracks...trust me, I've seen this happen to my CD (which has the 93rd song on it) in other people's CD players. OK, we all know that there is a reference to THX 1138 in "Star Wars," but I'm curious if there is one in "The Empire Strikes Back" too. I tryed to pay attention for one while watching it the other day but I may have missed it because I was into the movie...and please don't bother responding if the answer is something YOU think everybody knows, because I don't... Later, Zork ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:44:50 -0500 Subject: I have Thrall Demonsweatlive and it does have a track #93. It's the normal version of Mother (as opposed to the live version on the CD). Hmmz?! I wonder if all of them don't have it now. I looked and 1993 was when the CD was put out, so that's why it's track #93 I guess. On Danzig 4p there's a track #66 which is kind of weird. 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They did get together again this past year, and it cost me $50 to see them in NYC. Well worth every friggin penny...... ------------------------------ Date: 25 FEB 97 09:57:46 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: here we go again ... Scooter said -> >you people amaze me-jump off the bandwagon and go back to bothering >whatever other bands you were into two years ago!!-i'd gladly pay $25 to >see the misfits,the band i grew up believing i'd never >see-------hell,i'd pay $50---if you don't love and support the >misfits-----get the fuck outta here!!!!! I wish I could but the Ramones are gone. If you want to pay that much, go right ahead. I just question a bands motives when it plays shows for an average of $15 per show one year, and jacks up prices $10 the next. I'm done with my tirade on this. Horrorkid said ".WHO THE HELL IS SAL BEE???? >I mean I would be pissed to go to a show expecting the see >the MISFITS and there is this bald guy in a sweater acting like a >chicken while he sings HORROR BUSSINESS. Hahaha. Thats funny!! We've had the displeasure of sitting through Sardoncia for too many Misfits shows. Whats even funnier, is when my buddy and I saw the Sex Pistols in NY this year, Sal B was there, and tried to bum a ride home with us. Who the hell goes to a concert without a way of getting home, especially in NYC? Beowulf said about the VW comp " A lousy half hour to pay homage to >the greatest punk band in US history?" Greatest punk band? I don't think so.... a great punk band yes, greatest ever? no. J. St Jaques said " guess every punk band is back together now. Except >D.K. (I expect itsoon), and Black Flag (which will never happen with >Rollins). Something interesting about Black Flag, SST has been releasing >singles from Black Flag. They were dated 1996!!!! Reunion?!?!?!? Why >not. Descendents, Misfits, Crucifucks, MDC, Pistols, and whole bunch of >other bands are back together. Maybe Dez would sing? Man, I wish the DKs would get back together, so you kids of the 90s could see what a real hardcore show was like back in the day. The BF reunion would be cool too, either with Dez or Chavo singing. In any case, I would hope they would leave Rollins home, or maybe have him as a roadie. This would actually work out great. They could have the superstars of hardcore tour, with DKs, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Minor Threat, Gang Green, MDC, Kraut, Agnostic Front, Bad Brains .... etc etc. It would be like the Superbowl of Hardcore they used to have at the Ritz in NYC. J-Sin said "I heard that Misfits are playing at Obsessions in Randolph,NJ >and I just wanted to let them know that the place is shit." I've never been inside but I drove past that place a million times. It used to be the Final Exam years ago. They should have the Misfits show at the Pipeline in Newark. That club has been supporting the NJ punk scene for close to 10 years. The Birch Hill would work good too, nice size club, plenty of parking, and no frisking at the door. ... :) AZ ------------------------------ From: TREVOR JOSEPH MCPHEE Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:21:31 GMT-0400 Subject: Sorry! but I have to know. I have a question. I heard that Sham 69 is baned from playing in Canada and (I am not certain) but the States too. Now, my question is what did they do to get banned from playing? Sorry for the nonrelated Misfits post, but I have to know. Please write me if you know. tmcphee@kingstec.nscc.ns.ca By the way, if people have questions about the Misfits other people should not put them down for not knowing the stuff already, we all started out some place. Knowledge is the key, and Feinds should respect Feinds wether they know something or not. I am also Canadian, so you can blame my kind nature on that if you like. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:11:26 -0500 From: Kevin Subject: Misfits Portfolio I Fiends, The Misfits Portfolio I is still available in limited quantities for only 2 dollars which is for postage and handling, so order yours now. A portfolio including 4 illustrations done by yours truly and numbered to a limited edition of 138. For ordering info and to take a look at the portfolio, visit http://www.toptown.com/hp/kuder/misfits.htm Kuder klk@gwis.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:12:25 EST From: "Whittle, Patrick R." Subject: misfits cover songs About the Misfits covering Iggy Pop's "I Got A Right", didn't they also to "Search and Destroy"? Also I'd like to know how Feline Nursery's "i'm gonna throw away the key to the feline nursery" changed to spinal remains "i wanna have em...you're spinal remains!" patrick the poughkeepsie fiend "this isn't really death, this isn't really life, this isn't really anything i think i like" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:33:34 -0800 (PST) From: "ADAM R." Subject: Old vinyl I am looking for some vinyl and I was wondering if someone could help me out: TEEN IDLES "Minor Disturbance EP" STATE OF ALERT "No Policy EP" any PINK FARIES stuff. I have no idea how much this stuff goes for but if the price is reasonable, I would be interested in buying it. ThankYou... ADAM R. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4165/ http://www.chapman.edu/students/areygers/ ------------------------------ From: BJSchuller@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:57:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Race and Religion I have been a subscriber to the bible for a couple of months now and there is something I would like to comment on. First, to all of you satanic religious fanatics out there who feel the misfits bible is a forum for your oxymoronic soliloquies. I have a news bulletin for you. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT WHAT RELIGION YOU ARE! I don't want to rain on your little crusades but the last thing I want to read in the MISFITS bible is that some no name inbred in butt-fucked missouri or wherever you idiots come from worships satan. Religion is one of the most boring subjects I can think of because everyone has their own beliefs and opinions on it. So if you are posting on the misfits bible I would think it would be common sense to post something about the misfits instead of droning on about your chosen beliefs in religion. If you are that desperate to pollute other online publications then start your own. Don't you morons have your own means of communication? I would think that somebody somewhere would have a website or chatline where you shitheads could get together and rant your microscopic little minds out. So quit taking up space on the misfits bible. I suscribed because i wanted to hear about the misfits and their related bands not religious retoric. My sincere apologies to all the real misfits fans who actually have something misfits related to post, but I had to get that off my chest. -The Rat Bastard "Stammer, scream, shit yourselves... and my silver talons dip in again and again... The pure ecstacy of the kill... The closest thing to love I know." --John Jaspers, Faust. ------------------------------ From: MR BENJAMIN W BARNARD Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:34:46, -0500 Subject: 4 Hits from Mars Hell (o) Fiends, Today I recieved the 4 Hits From Hell tribute on Fandango Records. I must say that I was impressed. A bible issued tribute, by bible bands, paying homage to the bible topic band. Here's a short review.. 1) Undermine (Die Die...) vocals fit well, a straight version cool cover, like it a lot 2) Silent Noise (Horror Biz) the music is good & fuzzy, but I don't much care for the vocals (sorry guy, I probably couldn't do much better) But I must say that it is very impressive for one guy doing everything (as the sleeve says) 3)Ripsnorter (skulls) dude sounds very Glenn-esque, I like it a lot. Fast paced, ripsnortin' cover tune in the style we know & love 4) Idiot Police (138) Angry sounding fellow! The striking thing is the lack of any (at least audible) guitars. But it works really well. Especially like the "Jesus F-ing Christ Almighty!" at the end, nice touch Anyone who has not yet ordered one should do it ASAP. These are great cover songs by people who obviously care about the band. You won't be disappointed. I find one thing about Misfits songs (when they're done right) is that no matter how many different versions you hear, one never grows tired of hearing them. The versions on this 7" do justice to our Misfits. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:10:47 -0800 (PST) From: bill avery Subject: auction(whats left) O.K. Fiends here's what I have left for trade. -bill Misfits 12": EAD non-caroline lp $33 Flipside Fanzine signed by Glenn $37 WAU 1st press signed by Glenn, Jerry,And Doyle $135 WAU 2nd press signed by Jerry and Doyle $76 Samhain 12"s: Season of the Dead crimson wax w/tour poster $43 Unholy Passion blk wax $48 Misfits 7"s: Who Killed $77 NOTLD $97 Cough/Cool $535 Misc Items: Danzig 1 promo signed by Glenn $51 Rollins Band EOS signed by HANK $36 promo poster for IN MY HEAD $22 Fiend Club poster $28 Danzig3 box set $47 --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: chris besaw Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:16:21 -0700 Subject: Looking for Vinyl Hey Fiends! I was looking for the following 7"s:NOTLD Halloween 3hits if anyone has these for sale or trade i would be very grateful, or even if no-one has these items for sale or trade maybe you can help set me in the direction or refer me to someone who could help me aquire these items.Thanx. deadboy@wwdg.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:22:13 -0500 From: The Blackwells Subject: Danzig's Art Problems? Hey fiends, I just got emailed this little tidbit from a friend. Unfortunately, I don't know how current it is, or even if it's true. I don't remember it being in any recent bibles so I figured I'd post(it's only been 162 issues since my last post). Anyway.... Submitted for your approval: >>>Artist H.R. Giger, who is suing the band 'Danzig' for unauthorized use of Giger's artwork on their T-shirts, needed to serve the complaint papers to band leader Glenn Danzig in person. Giger hired a process-server, who body-surfed through the "mosh-pit" in front of the band during a New York City concert to get the job done.<<<< Any thoughts, Mark?(thought you might know). Bullet138 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:10:20 -0800 From: Greg Tice Subject: Misfits tribute Here is what I would like to see on a tribute album: Type O Negative: London Dungeon and She White Zombie: Death Comes Ripping and We are 138 Ozzy Osbourne: Some Kinda Hate and Skulls Metallica-Sure they suck but at least they like the Misfits Corrosion Of Conformity:American Nightmare and Last Caress By the way has anyone heard anything about the Misfits playing on this summers Ozzfest tour? That would be a great concert. Ozzy and the fits. ------------------------------ Date: Mon Feb 24 20:17:32 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Bootlegs n' Skrewdriver about bootlegs- Yes Danzig owned master tapes for those songs, however if you remember Franche Coma had a mixed master of Static Age too. You've gotta figure for any record recorded there could be 5 original tapes out there. The multi-track tape(s), the rough mix, the final mixed master, and the safety msater. Then of course there can be pressing master and plates, etc... Add to that, any one of those sources could be dubbed to another 1/4" tape or whatever and there's really no telling what the source is. For instance the recent Descendents bootleg CD isn't from Bill or Milo obviously. My guess it's from someone at SST (they have unreleased Descendents ttapes) or maybe Doug Caron (the guitarist on those tapes). So... as i said. No tellin'. Now on to Skrewdriver. I didn't like their politics. And then I heard one of their records and they sucked. So.. what' the point in discussing them? Isn't the singer dead anyway? Oh well... if anyone is touring the Midwest let me know. I'm interested in setting shows up in my area with my band supporting possibly. Also check out the Jam covers page http://www.spy.net/~allroy/ i guarantee no Goldfinger. And whoever mentioned that, yeah Goldfinger was in Eletric Love Hog or whatever and thewy also were members of Motorcycle Boy (YUCK!). They write some catchy songs but suck overall. --- --------------==============================------------------ Got up this morning to make some coffee; Everything sucks today. allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:47:34 -0800 From: nick1218 Subject: What Hath Caroline Wrought? I am a hard-core Misfits fan. So of course when I heard there was a Misfits tribute album, called Violent World, I was interested. When I heard the album, I was disgusted and enraged. It was an abomination unto Danzig himself. I thought to myself, "Is this what punk has come to?" Goldfinger doing "Ghoul's Night Out" sounded irritatingly like a Weird Al song. What in the fuck happened??? You should not be able to understand the lyrics to "Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight." Ska is fine and good, but NO MISFIT SONG NEEDS A HORN SECTION!! Other featured "artists" were Pennywise, Prong, Therapy?, NOFX, and more. Now, I don't know what you think of these bands, but when you hear this album, you will want them all to take their own miserable lives. These worthless, whining, pretty-boy rockers should never have tried to pick up the mantle of the Misfits. They will simply never fit into their father's shoes. Glenn must be turning in his grave, right now. In short, I want to start a campaign against this travesty of an album. If you have not heard the album, listen to it. Don't buy it, just listen to it. If you have heard it and you agree with me, let me know. If not, may Glenn have mercy upon your soul. ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:21:12 EDT Subject: stuff for sale Stuff for sale 7"s UNDEAD "theres a riot in tompkins square" 7" $4.00 UNDEAD "verbal abuse" 7", signed by Bobby Steele, $5.00 GLENN DANZIG "who killed marylin" 7", bootleg, $8.00 MISFITS "return of the fly" 7", bootleg, 7-song version, $8.00 MISFITS "cough/cool" 7", bootleg, $8.00 MISFITS "night of the living dead" 7", bootleg, signed by Jerry Only, cardboard sleeve, $15.00 12"s SAMHAIN "unholy passion" 12", tan sleeve, black vinyl, corners slightly bent, $35 SAMHIAN "november-coming-fire" 12", caroline records, no upc code, $10 SAMHAIN "initium" 12",caroline records, no upc code, sleeve is slightly worn, $10 MISFITS "beware" 12", bootleg, red vinyl, made in UK, $20 MISFITS "live night of the living dead" 12", bootleg, signed by Jerry Only & Doyle, 1st press, $20 MISFITS "evilive" 12", caroline records, with upc code, $10 MISFITS "earth a.d." 12", caroline records, signed by Jerry Only & Doyle, autographs are slightly smeared, no upc code, $10 DANZIG "4", 12",american recordings, $10 UNDEAD "act your rage" 12", post mortem records, blue marble vinyl, signed by Bobby Steele, autograph slightly smeared, $10 COMICS verotik comicS JAGUAR GOD #2 $2.00 SUNGLASSES AFTER DARK #1 $2.00 SATANIKA #3 $2.00 VEROTIKA #5 $2.00 DEVILMAN #1 $2.00 VEROTIKA #6 $2.00 SATANIKA #2 2.00 G.O.T.H. #1 $2.00 SUNGLASSES AFTER DARK #1/2 $2.00 DEVILMAN #2 $2.00 IGRAT #1 $2.00 RAT FINK COMICS Rat fink comics #2 $2.00 Rat fink 3-D comics #6 $2.00 CDs DANZIG "4" cd, $8.00 ENDPOINT "Idiots" cd, they cover 1 misfits song, there is also a SAMHAIN parody cover art, and Misfits parody cd art. $5.00 RANDOM ITEMS LIVE! 79 THE PERFECT CRIME! 7"x7" vinyl sticker, signed by Bobby Steele, $2.00 C.H.U.D. video (yes the 80s horror flic) on beta (non the less, hehe), signed by Dr. CHUD, $2.00 A personal letter to me from Eerie Von in response to the Danzig fan club, it was written about 6 years ago, and is on DANZIG letterhead paper. $2.00 MAXIMUM ROCK AND ROLL #151, part #1, MISFITS interview, $2.00 UGLY THINGS magazine, #12, interview w/ JERRY ONLY of THE MISFITS, $5.00 UGLY THINGS magazine, #13, interview w/ JOEY IMAGE of THE MISFTS, and other MISFITS articles, $5.00 UGLY THINGS magazine, #14, article about MISFITS reunion, $5.00 MISFITS PHOTOCOPY PACKETS #s 1-4. Each is $3.00, and contains high quality photocopies of rare zine interviews, rare pictures, rare bootleg cover art, complete discographies, and EVERYTHING you could want to know about the MISFITS pre-reunion. Will sell all four for $10.00, about 100 pages total of MISFITS factoids! My MISFITS FIEND CLUB PACKET (the new one, not the one from the 80s) includes the envelope with orange MISFITS sticker on it, and huge CYCLOPEAN MUSIC logo on envelope, also includes CYCLOPIAN music membership card, FIND A FIEND card, and CYCLOPEAN music round shield. I dont care if you think that its B.S. that I sell this, and honestly Ill accept just about any offer for it, so someone please make me an offer for it! send all interests to kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu i will be willing to trade for any of the following items BOUNCING SOLES "GREENBALL CREW" EP SNUFF-**anything thing that you might have that i don't** PROPAGANDHI-**anything that you might have that i don't** SINK-**band from UK, anything of theirs** SNUFF**any video footage** GUNS N WANKERS**any video footage** GUNS N WANKERS-**anything that you might have that i don't** PROPAGANDHI**any video footage** PROPAGANDHI**any t-shirts** LIFETIME "HELLO BASTARDS" 12" THATS ABOUT IT, FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, SO EMAIL ME ASAP! PEACE ADAM EMO ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:18:15 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Avoiding the scam... Hello fiends... first: Scott - i hate to say this but the Glenn as wolverine has been around for 7 years now. i first heard it back in 1990, i even have friends who say they saw some bit on MTV at the time. though the topic has not come up again, plus Marvel is way behind on all their movies. at the same time they were suposed to start work on shooting a new Spiderman, with i think Charlie Sheen. though as most people know Marvel is having financial problems. plus as you know Verotik was not a reality at that time. Oh, by the way. You know that during the entire time that Danzig has toured, at least all the shows here in Florida have been priced at $15 - 16. Now why would anyone charge $25. If you think about what bands charge that kind of money are usually in arenas. odd isn't it? Tim - you might want to try and contact Curtis from Taang records on the Cough/Cool(they are now in CA. and you can find them on the internet). he had one left and it was one i was suposed to buy. he then refuse to sell it to someone else i know. you could ask if he is willing to sell it if he still has it. Misfits 101... Who Can You Trust... well this seems to be coming up again and something that i have dealt with for over 10 years. I have been told from known fiends who have incredible collections that they fear that they will be scammed. You can call it what you will, ripped off, scammed, burned. But it is something we all have to deal with everytime we try to buy or trade for the one thing that every fiend on this bible is after. I have had record stores who had no idea what they were selling me was a bootleg, though they did the right thing and dealt with the mistake. Though what do you do when your not dealing with a record store? Well first ask around about the person you are dealing with. there is a good chance that another fiend on the bible will know something about this person. if not people on the bible, ask other traders you know, though i would say there are some fiends on the bible who deal in and out of the bible. also when you are dealing for an item you don't know a lot about, go to Misfits Central, use Misfits 101, or ask fiends who own the item. At least at that point if you go through with the deal and i don't care if its money or trade, you can know you got the real thing or not. The other point is what you give to get the item. if its money, ask around about the price, ask a couple people. What i paid for most of my stuff and what you saw on Misfits 101, is not what is usually normal. Most people are not going to sell a real Beware for $40. and the going price that i posted was $325. If you take on trade, ask some of the fiends about what records are being asked for, or even if you know of a record store that has the item for sale and its not cheap, ask them about the records. I hate to say it but some people will try to rip you off even when you get the real item. I was once asked to trade for a Horror Business records what would have been worth 3 - 4 copies of Horror Business. This person thought i would be easy to trick, though he was way off. even when i did not know enough about the other bands, i would ask the record stores what they knew. Chuck Cleaver always took the time to tell me about some of the other bands. How else do you find out that Necors Sex Drive was so rare that the band members did not have copies. Now if you settled the deal and were about to make the exchange, have the person's address, and phone nubmer. at least make the final deal on the phone where you make the call. Even when i find something on the internet, i will take the time and spend the money to call. at least i know that the number is real, there is no bullshit. if the item is late, call, if any problem with the item call. though you have to know that shit happens too. I have had problems with even dear old Chuck though it was not his fault. It was our wonderful Postal System, which finally left me its your last chance to pick this up notice. You could ask or suggest, UPS, which will cost a little more, but not much. plus they insure up to $100 for free. So what can i tell you, but you take your chance and if any problem gets out of hand than you take after that asshole like a bat out of hell. I know that sounds bad, but when you have dealt with it before it kind of stays with you and your attitude is a bit on the nasty side to getting ripped. well next time, we will get to places to find some general vinyl. i wish i could offer some places that have the good stuff, but its getting harder than ever. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 302 Friday, February 28th 1997 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible #301 Misfits Update 4 Hits From Mars re:Skrewdriver and Why I'm Glad Ian Stewart and Joe Rowan are dead. Re: Misfits Bible #301 whoa Some more stuff Danzig Promo CD for sale MISFITS CENTRAL re:Skrewdriver and Why I'm Glad Ian Stewart and Joe Rowan are dead. Racism & "Thrall/Demonsweatlive" Re: Misfits Bible #301 Misfits Sale 4 HITS FROM MARS Re: Nazi Punks Fuck Off! Props to da Gramps...... 4 hits from mars Disgruntled Postal Workers box set review original metallica demo for sale All hail the MISFITS This is the Bible Four Hits From Mars Articles... I'm almost done! A request for Bobby For Sale or Trade Re: Misfits Bible #301 MB subscribers Tribute Album Wolverine movie Glenn/Wolverine/Toronto The Thought Police have spoken! Submit and obey! It seems a little purple... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:19:19 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #301 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Grampa Atomic said: >ROCKNROLL: The Devil Dogs are about the only band who can compare to the >best Misfits >stuff...if you haven't heard the Devil Dogs, you should go out and buy it now. Best >rock band ever. FYI ex- DEVIL DOGS drummer, DAVE ARI is now playing in TIMES SQUARE. Their song, ROCK CITY U.S.A. sounds suspiciously like SPOOK CITY U.S.A., but this is really a coincidence since they couldn't have heard SPOOK CITY at the time they wrote it, yet the similarity IS uncanny. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:27:55 -0500 From: mk Subject: Misfits Update ROCKY CAIAFA UPDATE (2/26/97) February 28th Show? The Misfits show on February 28th was cancelled when the show owner mysteriously bailed out on the band. They will not be re-scheduling this show. Animal Room The Misfits were filmed in one scene of this movie back in November of 1995, and now finally we're going to bsee it. According to Rocky, the movie is supposedly playing in Europe, but won't be onscreen here in the US until April when it will be shown at the Hollywood Film Fest. After that, it may make its way into US movie theaters. Fiend Club They are still (as always) in the process of putting more names into the database. Right now they're at about 6700 and growing. A postcard with European tour dates will be mailed out in about 3 weeks, and in the meantime, Rocky and Doug Evil are working on a Fiend Club newsletter that will be put out 4 times a year. I know we've heard a lot of this before, but this time it seems like they're really moving. Tour Dates The band will be touring Europe in April. Any tickets sold for shows in November of 1996 (all of which were postponed) will still be good in the spring. The show on 4/20/97 will be special to make up for last year's cancelled show in Birmingham. The band won't be playing in the US until around June 1st, after they finish up with their tour of Europe. No US dates have been set yet and everything is tentative. The band will probably tour from June until Halloween, in 3 legs, much as they did this past summer. EUROPEAN TOUR (Sardonica opening) [ All dates subject to change ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 04/15/97 The Garage London, England 04/16/97 Fleece N Firkin Bristol, U.K. 04/17/97 Mean Fiddler Dublin, Ireland 04/18/97 Venue Edinburg, Scotland 04/19/97 Bradford Rio Bradford, England 04/20/97 Foundry Birmingham, England 04/22/97 0dberg De Zwaan Heist, Belgium 04/23/97 Effenaar Eindhoven, Netherlands 04/24/97 Zeche Essen, Germany 04/25/97 Mejeret Lund, Sweden 04/26/97 Dalboparken Vanersborg, Sweden 04/27/97 Studion Stockholm, Sweden (early show) 04/27/97 Studion Stockholm, Sweden (late show) 04/29/97 Tullikmari Tampere, Finland 04/30/97 Lepakko Helsinki, Finland 05/02/97 Markthalle Hamburg, Germany 05/03/97 Berlin, Germany 05/04/97 Nachtwerk Munich, Germany 05/05/97 Herford Kick Herford, Germany 05/06/97 Konne Island Leipzig, Germany 05/07/97 Ack Eskulap Poznan, Poland 05/08/97 Roxy Prague, Czechoslovakia 05/09/97 Fzene Wein Vienna, Austria 05/10/97 Kilowattoro Bologna, Italy 05/12/97 Rainbow Milan, Italy 05/13/97 Schuur Lurzen, Switzerland 05/14/97 Jubez Karlsruhe, Germany 05/16/97 Euskadi, Spain 05/17/97 Madrid, Spain 05/19/97 UK 05/20/97 LA2 London, England American Psycho LP Once again, the name of the new album has changed its name. Unfortunately, it has also been postponed. Although the band has finished mixing the album (this week in fact), it will now be released May 6th, with the slight possibility of April 22nd. The album itself will feature the new Crimson Ghost design by Jurek (used on all recent Misfits shirts) as the cover. It will have a white Misfits logo at the top and will be in the format of the proposed (and then cancelled) Max's X-mas album - basically an imitation of the old Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine with the song titles listed on the side. The CD booklet will unfold into a poster done by Basil Gogos (who did the Max's X-mas art) with the lyrics on the other side. AMERICAN PSYCHO --------------- Dr. Phibes Rises Again (intro) (written by Jerry and Doyle) 1 The Hunger (written by Graves) 2 From Hell They Came 3 Blacklight (written by Graves) 4 Resurrection 5 Speak Of The Devil (written by Dr. Chud) 6 The Haunting (written by Graves) 7 Dead Kings Rise (written by Jerry) 8 Walk Among Us (written by Graves) 9 Dig Up Her Bones (written by Graves) 10 American Psycho (written by Graves) 11 This Island Earth (written by Graves) 12 Mars Attacks (written by Graves) 13 Don't Open Till Doomsday 14 The Death Of The Fallen Angel (written by Jerry) 15 Hate The Living, Love The Dead (written by Dr. Chud) 16 The Crimson Ghost (written by Dr. Chud) 17 Day Of The Dead (written by Doyle) 18 Shining (written by Graves) 19 Angel Baby (written by Jerry) 20 Hellnight (written by Daniel Rey / Misfits) Below is a list of some songs that probably won't make the album. Songs on this list will probably never be on ANY Misfits album and will probably never be performed live. Talons Of Steel (written by Doyle) The Creeps (written by Doyle) Till It's Gone (written by Jerry) Ghost Riders (may be re-written) Hellraiser (formerly titled Beware) Pit And The Pendulum (written by Jerry) No Guts, No Glory (a song that had been in Jerry's head for years) The Enemy (written by Michale) Pledge Of Vengeance (written by Dr. Chud and Doyle) Blue Skin Black Moon Rising (written by Jerry) Army Of The Dead The Dead Lie Of Air (written by Jerry) Witch Hunt 7" EP We've heard this before too - The Misfits plan to release a special 7" EP on Halloween of this year. It may be "Mars Attacks" or "Blacklight" and will most likely feature the Misfits covering the "Monster Mash" on the B-side. "Monster Mash" will probably feature Jerry on vocals with some surprise guest appearances. Iggy Pop Tribute? Some of you have heard the rumor already, and Rocky confirmed it. It looks like The Misfits will be appearing on an Iggy Pop tribute album due out sometime in the next year. They will be doing "I Got A Right" and the album will be out on Royalty Records. ___________________________________________________________________ By the way fiends, I've been written to by a few of the subscribers on this mailing list, and I guess it's time I do something... please move the Nazi/Skrewdriver stuff to personal email, if possible. I must admit that I have been just skimming the bibles and didn't even realize anything was going on. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:00:04 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: 4 Hits From Mars >From: Grandpa Atomic >"Four Hits from Mars, my money's in the mail. I'm dyin' for that gold >vinyl. Kudos to Jake, DIY, bro, and I'm glad I subscribed to this just >in time to find out about it! You really oughtta distro it through a >few places...give others a chance! >Send 20 copies to Vacuum or something. He'll buy 'em, and others >deserve to hear it...this closet scene is exactly why so many people >don't find out about this stuff. Maybe I'll buy 20 and sell >them at some NY shows. But one for me first to see how good it is. Also, >to all the bands on it...very cool. If you guys want NY shows, e-mail >me I'll set you up. Again, I have to hear your covers first though." gramps rules. thanks for the props! if the EP doesn't sell out to misfits bible subscribers, i will put it in a few stores and maybe some distributors. but like i always planned and how ben below so aptly put it: "A bible issued tribute, by bible bands, paying homage to the bible topic band." they're selling very well right now and i'd like to see them all gone by next month. if not, they're going in stores. and as for getting shows in NY, hook my band ADAM WEST up. we fight tooth and nail to get shows up there, but there's so much attitude. we're playing at CBGBs on may 2, but i'm still trying to get into the continental and coney island. any help? >From: MR BENJAMIN W BARNARD >Subject: 4 Hits from Mars >"Today I recieved the 4 Hits From Hell tribute on Fandango Records. >I must say that I was impressed. A bible issued tribute, by bible >bands, paying homage to the bible topic band. Here's a short review.. >Anyone who has not yet ordered one should do it ASAP. These are great >cover songs by people who obviously care about the band. You won't be >disappointed. I find one thing about Misfits songs (when they're done >right) is that no matter how many different versions you hear, one >never grows tired of hearing them. The versions on this 7" do justice >to our Misfits." thanks, ben! i appreciate all the positive feedback. in fact, i haven't heard one bad thing about the EP yet. spread the word and go see the bands when they play. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 11:39:50 -0500 (EST) From: The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs At Midnight Subject: re:Skrewdriver and Why I'm Glad Ian Stewart and Joe Rowan are dead. Skrewdriver was a great band before they turned Nationalist, and even after the music was good. i am of mixed African and Italian Blood, and I own several Skrewdriver Albums. The Tribute Album sucked ass, because it just wasn't Skrewdriver. Nordic Thunder was Alright, but most of the new N/S bands (Like RaHoWa) suck, and those that were good went metal. Although I don't like their Ideals, the musical quality in WP bands used to be high, until they decided to "Expand theri Horizons." Even if you don't agree with a band's politics, you should still give them a chance musically. I like the Exploited, but I'm pretty much a Nationalistic Skinhead (NOT National Socialist, there's a difference), and they do a song called "Fuck the U.S.A." I like it, but I don't agree with it at all. BCNU Stephen M Accetta ------------------------------ From: mk Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #301 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:20:06 -0500 (EST) > Subject: READ THIS YOU BASTARDS! > From: misfit6x3@juno.com (Just some Fiend) > > Tell me Mark. How much $ do you get for doing this? Didn't think so. > Listen you 1000 people! Lets work together to keep this going! Anyone > got any thoughts or suggestions? We have to do something now before we > lose this. Hey fiends and friends. It looks like we don't have to worry about the mailing list shutting down. I'm going to continue running it from another site - plan-9.com - thanks to our buddy Sal from this mailing list. > From: The Blackwells > Subject: Danzig's Art Problems? > > >>>Artist H.R. Giger, who is suing the band 'Danzig' for unauthorized use of > Giger's artwork on their T-shirts, needed to serve the complaint papers to > band leader Glenn Danzig in person. Giger hired a > process-server, who body-surfed through the "mosh-pit" in front of the > band during a New York City concert to get the job done.<<<< > > Any thoughts, Mark?(thought you might know). I remember when this little bit came out. Apparently Giger was mad at Glenn because his original deal for letting Danzig use his artwork (the cover of Danzig III) extended only to album covers and certain licensed shirts. What he didn't understand is that the shirts he had seen that weren't covered by their agreement were fan-made bootleg shirts that Glenn obviously had no control over. I have never understood why he couldn't have just mailed him the letter, or called him up. mark ------------------------------ Date: 26 FEB 97 11:41:06 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: whoa Alright, I see alot of you guys getting down and dirty with this Skrewdriver thing, which I knew would happen as soon as those a-holes were mentioned. Lets end this once and for all. KEEP ALL YOUR RACIST BULLSHIT OUT OF THE MISFITS BIBLE!!! I know all about the First Amendment. I also know it doesn't apply to the Misfits Bible so if you want to hang here and talk about the Misfits and shit like that, cool. If you want to talk about the fairy tale bullshit racial pride crap (and I don't care what race you are), get the hell out. People don't subscribe to this list to get a discertation on a bunch of lies about which race is the best. I'm sure there are plenty of way cool mailing lists for everyone to stroke each other off about Tom Metzger's plan for the Aryan superman, about all the friggin 14 words, about Rahowa, Aggravated Assault, Nordic Thunder and all those dumbass Resitance bands, Hatestock, Farrakhan, the Ayatollah and all that shit. Or better yet, hop out on IRC and go to #KKK or #WhitePride. If you feel someone who doesn't look like you or talk like you should be offed I got some news for you. I'm about as Aryan looking as they come, blonde hair, blues eyes, all that crap. It didnt matter one goddamn bit when the Wermacht came to my folks town in 1939 and lined up my grandparents and mowed them down along with 1/2 the town, just to keep people in line. My aunt got a nice 9 month vacation camping at Auscwitz from 1944 till it was liberated in '45. My family wasnt Jewish but it didnt matter and it won't matter to any of you. All you crazy assholes who think you're part of the master race should realize that when the 4th Reich comes, your as dead meat as the people you hate. Put that in your goddamn pipe and smoke it and leave this shit out of the Misfits Bible once and for goddamn all!!!! And if there are any of you out there that deny the Holocaust ever happened you have your heads so far up your ass that its cutting off the oxygen to whats left of your brain. AZ ------------------------------ From: WOLFER138@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:37:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Some more stuff >How can I be sure about what? I know Jerry has a copy of the full >show from December 22, 1978. As for the Max's Kansas City bootleg, >of course it's Al's Bar 1982. Listen to it. The tracks on the 7" >were taken directly from the live tape of the show that has been >circulated all over the world. A lot of Misfits bootlegs were taken >from this very show, including the BLOOD bootleg that just came out >in November. How can u be sure that jerry has THE ONLY full copy of this? Im sure there was someone else that recorded it or that jerry mite have given a copy of it to. > Also Mark, I hope you get to keep the MB going independently outside of >your college, even if some of us musical Misfits fans, myself included, >have to put out a compilation of some sort to raise cash (how about it >guys?). That is a really great idea im in a band and we are pretty good and hell yeah ill do it solely for publicity and most of all to keep this thing goin. Im sure angelsin will do it too right j-sin. we could call it MISFITS BIBLE FIENDS. someone could do the artwork, someone could have it pressed and we could make it really cheap. But where do we get the money to start with it. sean ------------------------------ Date: 26 FEB 97 16:44:41 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Danzig Promo CD for sale I just recently found another copy of Danzig - Dirty Black Summer promo CD in my house. It is sealed and mint. It contains Dirty Black Summer, Bodies and When Death Had No Name, all studio versions. If anyone is interested, make me an offer. I'll pay the postage in the US. AZ ------------------------------ From: cooper15@hsonline.net Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:55:37 -0600 Subject: MISFITS CENTRAL I was going through Misfits Central, and has anybody ever seen this? > I've seen it a million times. I wrote it, and Ryq Hinojos just posted it > to the bible about 2 weeks ago. I got all this information from Jerry and > some of the early Misfits, as well as from interviews with Glenn and > Jerry in the old days. I might have skrewed up in my talking, but I was talking about a MISFITS TV show. At lest I think. I've been on Misfits Central. And it RULES ! ! ! Dr. Love ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:11:31 -0500 (EST) From: Subject: re:Skrewdriver and Why I'm Glad Ian Stewart and Joe Rowan are dead. Skrewdriver was a great band before they turned Nationalist, and even after the music was good. i am of mixed African and Italian Blood, and I own several Skrewdriver Albums. The Tribute Album sucked ass, because it just wasn't Skrewdriver. Nordic Thunder was Alright, but most of the new N/S bands (Like RaHoWa) suck, and those that were good went metal. Although I don't like their Ideals, the musical quality in WP bands used to be high, until they decided to "Expand theri Horizons." Even if you don't agree with a band's politics, you should still give them a chance musically. I like the Exploited, but I'm pretty much a Nationalistic Skinhead (NOT National Socialist, there's a difference), and they do a song called "Fuck the U.S.A." I like it, but I don't agree with it at all. BCNU Stephen M Accetta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:15:36 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Racism & "Thrall/Demonsweatlive" "Righteous Black Duck": ----------------------- For you to say that there has never been a rap album recorded with anti-white lyrics is just silly. You even mentioned some artists in your "recommeded" list that either were or are anti-white and/or anti-Semitic. For the record, referring to white people as "devils" is inflammatory and bigoted... that's the type of lyrics we're talking about here. Judging by the rhetoric you've spouted in previous Bibles, Mr. Duck, you sir are a homophobe, and I find that just as distasteful as racism. From your Rastafarian beliefs I wouldn't be surprised to learn you are also an anti-Semite. The fact that you are arrogant enough to term your viewpoint as "righteous" implies a generalized religious intolerance. Therefore, your position is no more defensible than Skrewdriver's. You are intolerant of other people based on their lifestyle, ideology, or beliefs -- which is a silly and ignorant way of thinking. Ask any ranking Ku Klux Klan official and he'll tell you there's nothing that gets free P.R. for the Klan like fervent anti-Nazism and anti-White Pride crusades. Out here in San Francisco, the only Klan meetings I ever hear about are the ones that are regularly held on talk shows like Oprah, Jenny Jones, etc., ostensibly to "stop the hatred" or "educate people". If rabid anti-Nazi crusaders would stop adding credibility to these people's organizations, maybe they'd finally dry up and blow away. In other words: I don't care about Skrewdriver. They don't interest me. This is the Misfits Bible. Let's take this crap someplace it belongs, because the whole thing is boring me to tears. On the subject of "Thrall/Demonsweatlive": ------------------------------------------ My memory is a little foggy here, and I'm surprised Mark hasn't jumped in with some discography clarifications! BUT -- so far as I know, my copy of the disc does NOT include the extra track 93. I'd have to go home to check. I believe the studio "Mother" was added in second/later pressings when the "Mother" live track started getting airplay. If I remember correctly, the "live" track a lot of people were hearing on MTV or whatever wasn't even the one from "Demonsweatlive", it was the studio version remixed with crowd noises or something. As the song got popular it was decided people would want to get their hands on the studio version, so it was added to the disc. I THINK that's how the story goes -- but I COULD BE WRONG. Clarification anyone? As to why the bonus track is track 93, the live video was called "Mother '93" I think... even though the song didn't change much. So that's probably why. I always thought it was a kinda clever number for Glenn, though, because using some kind of numerological system (don't ask me which one) "93" is the number of the words Love and Will. So you often get Aleister Crowley fans putting "93 93/93" in their signatures, which, when written out as a fraction, is a kinda cute shorthand for "Love is the Law, Love under Will". So the first explanation is PROBABLY correct... but you can look at it the Crowley way if you feel like being kinda clever and reading into Glenn's "hobbies". (Cuz remember folks -- this is important now! -- Satanism and the occult is COOL.) NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:59:41 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #301 Paul Koziej is the biggest bullshitter. Fuck him. wes ------------------------------ From: devilman138@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:48:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Misfits Sale These items are for sale. They will go to the highest bidder. Keep in mind these are in excellent condition. 7inch singles: Cough/Cool 3 Hits (white vinyl) 3 Hits (black vinyl) 3 Hits (1st press blk. vinyl) Evilive 7inch (w/ insert) Halloween (w/ insert) Night of The Living Dead 12inches: Legacy (white vinyl) Evilive (green vinyl) Walk Among (pink cover) Walk Among (purple cover) Earth A.D. (yellow vinyl) Die Die (purple vinyl) Evilive (1st pressing) Wolfs Blood (German Pressing) Initium (red vinyl) Initium (small swirls within vinyl) November (orange vinyl) Submit offers to: devilman138@earthlink.net Thanks ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:55:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: 4 HITS FROM MARS I just got my 4 Hits From Mars 7" in the mail yesterday, and you can can add me to the long list of happy customers. Its the less-professional sounding tribute of the two and is pretty damn good. All of the bands have good interpretations, and like mark said, even if you don't like it, the gold vinyl is fuckin cool. And Jake, thanks for the promo 7", you didn't have to send me it! Check out ADAM WEST, their music is definetly worth your money, and its cheap! Chris ------------------------------ From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano Subject: Re: Nazi Punks Fuck Off! Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:38:27 -0500 Thanks Gramps! I'm glad I'm not the only person on the Misfits Bible that feels the same way about Shitdriver and their ilk, and the sheep that follow them! Keep up the fight! NO NAZIS! NO KKK! NO FASCIST USA! CJ Carey aka "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:14:22 -0500 (EST) From: BYRON BAILEY Subject: Props to da Gramps...... Well this is the first time I've decided to post,so I figured it would be sumptin I could feel worth writing about.....As for what Beowulf had to say about that Facist Nazi band SkrewDriver....well what can I say that Gramps didn't...They were a fucking nazi white-power band from the lowest depths of the whole move ment... So that means either your a dense ass-hole ,who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground or your one of Ass-Holes that give Skins a bad name..I have many anti-racist skin friends and I have had to put up with hearing all the Rasist bullshit that people like your beloved Skerdriver spews upon the masses...it sickens me to listen to you defend them...I don't beleaeve you should be kicked off the bible,because I do beleave that everyone has a right to say what they believe in what they think is right (note I said think..that is if you're capable)....needless to say I do believe you need a severe ass-whopping and a swift kick to the head..hopefully with a huge steel-toe boot that Nazi's are so fond of using..and with that I move on to another minor topic..in the wizard ish,it was Patrick Stewart for Prof.X.unfortunantly I can't remember the rest.....well till next time some one writes something I find worthy enough to comment on..... Byron (Old Fiend-Evil) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Feb 1997 23:39:16 -0500 From: COTTER TIM EXC PP US Subject: 4 hits from mars --Thu Feb 27 05:30:01 1997 L1 365 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just got my copies of 4 hits from mars 7". I was greatly impressed by the other bands versions. They are Awesome(to me-they capture the misfits sound) It looks like they put a lot more time(maybe money?? ) into their recordings than I did. Like it says on the sleeve I recorded this one night in Sept 96' and I had fun doing it. All I had was a 4 track(no mixer, no effects) and did each track one at a time(only once in one night). Hope everyone enjoys it and I recommend everyone buy it. This is real chance for everyone to show their support of the original Misfits without being ripped of(IMHO)f in the re-issue world. Tim Cotter=Silent Noise=for one song! --Thu Feb 27 05:30:01 1997 L1 365 ------------------------------ Date: 27 FEB 97 09:50:29 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Disgruntled Postal Workers Someone here mentioned a band called Disgruntled Postal Workers an issue or so ago. Now I see such a band play in NJ in few weeks. Is this a band a bible member is in? If so let me know, and I'll come check it out! az ------------------------------ From: 02459@udel.edu Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:50:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: box set review This is a pretty nifty review of the box set I found. Sorry if it's been posted before, but I don't think so. THE UTNE READER (July/August 1996) ---------------------------------- THE MISFITS: Box Set (Caroline). The Misfits weren't the only band to blend B-movie camp with rock 'n' roll, but their black costumes and songs about gore, mutilation, and flying saucers made them if not the heart then certainly the blood and guts of what became known as Gothic rock. The 100 minutes of music in this coffin-shaped box set cover the group's entire six-year history, documenting it's progression from an instrument smashing caricature of every parent's worst heavy-metal nightmare to a ghoulish burlesque act whose songs ("Devil's Whorehouse" and "Green Hell," for example) are, in the end, suprisingly catchy. -Patrick Smith --------------------------------- Emily ------------------------------ From: DAVID TESTA Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:06:21 +0000 Subject: original metallica demo for sale hey, I know this has nothing to do with the Misfits but I also know that alot of Misfits fans like Metallica. So I was wondering if anyone was interested in an original Metallica demo tape. It is called 'Whiplash" and was put out by Megaforce records and marketed by Important record Distributers, Inc. Both sides of the tape are labeled "Side A", whith the same songs listed but only one side has music. The songs are as follows: Jump in the Fire, Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth), Whiplash, Seek & Destroy, and Phantom Lord. To my knowlegde this is the first recording with bassist Cliff Burton. If anyone is interested please e-mail me a bid. I also have the Creeping Death and Jump in the Fire cassets if any one is interested in those as well. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:45:35 -0400 (AST) From: Des Roches Subject: All hail the MISFITS i want to know if anybody can send me ANYTHING for FREE from the MISFITS.if u know msg me right away.help the misfits bible stay alive give $ to MARK KENNEDY our faithful publisher of the bible.thanx matt ------------------------------ From: Lord Quietus Subject: This is the Bible Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:28:52 -0000 Lets see, nazi's...Misfits.....Nazi's...Misfits..I don't see the relation, so how about you fiends drop this dead subject, let the racists scurry back to their hole. Lord Quietus Paladin Of Torm "I pay the doctor bills baby, I can break what i want" Gwar ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:54:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Four Hits From Mars To the bands, on the 4 Hits From Mars 7": On behalf of The Idiot Police, I'd like to say hello and congratulations! The 7" is far better than any of the recent tributes, thanks to you guys! All of you are great. (especially Undermine--right on!). Killer stuff everyone, pick one up. For those who are doubting this, DON'T any further. It is truly great, you should pick it up. Come on, for $4, why not? Great job! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:13:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: Articles... I'm almost done! Well, slowly but surely I'm getting that info I need. Since my repeated requested appear to be having an effect, I'm going to post the remains of what I am looking for. The date to: DANZIG Metal Muscle by Rob Andrews, Hit Parader (circa 1992) The article title by: Lee Sherman, Faces Early summer 1991. The article title by: Lee Sherman, Faces Late summer 1991. The header paragraph and writer credit to: Tales From the Dark Side, Kerrang! Summer 1990. That's all that remains. If you know of any of these, please let me know so I can get them on Misfits Central for everyone to read. Thanks again to everyone who's helped out so far. Bye folks, D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca Check out the official Six Sins Left Homepage at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ "When I look at an ant's shiny black eyes I see the face of God." --Six Sins Left ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:35:50 -0600 From: mike thompson Subject: A request for Bobby A question for Bobby, I was lucky enough to have caught a snare drum head that Dr. CHUD threw out after a show. It has a Misfits sticker on it along with all of the current line-up's autographs. Anyways my question for you is: If I was to send it to you, would you be apposed to signing it and sending it back to me? And do you think any other members might also do me this favor? I'm hoping to get everone's signature on it. If it's too much trouble, I would certainly understand. I would appreciate any responce. Thank you. A fan of all misfits past and present, Mike Thompson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:01:41 -0500 From: zycki Subject: For Sale or Trade I have a brand new [I opened the shrinkwrap myself and listened only once] copy of the following for sale or trade [hardcore/oi, vinyl/CD]: Kryst the Conqueror - Deliver us from Evil CD I'm also looking to buy the following: Sick of it All - We Stand Alone EP CD [import from Europe] Warzone - Lower East Side Crew 7in [Revelation Records] Nordic Thunder - Change of Scenery EP [MSR Productions] Message from the Underground comp LP [Urinal Records] Negative Approach - 10 Song 7in Iron Cross - 7in Moonstomp/Kicker Boys split CD [Step - 1] Danzig - Who Killed Marilyn 7in [bootleg] Also if anyone has any info or know if this has been released, please e-mail me: VINNIE STIGMA - My Days With Agnostic Front (vid/2cd-set) Mott St. Investments/A.F. Publishing E-mail me with any offers for the Kryst the Conqueror, my want list, or info. Thanx zycki "Wicked men! Cease your antics, or I may be forced to assault you with the U.S. Postal System!" -The Tick ------------------------------ From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine" Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:45:13 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #301 Did anybody see our contest about writng a 100 word thing about why you know or think or feel you are better then every body else in the whole world. I think maybe you should all send me one. And i will send you stuff. Kevin Kuder have you got your Zines yet? Rick have you got yours? Iwould like every body to know that i have the best 138 thing ever. I am employee number 138-4078 it even says so an my pay check. So if you can beat that then go write ahead that is why i am better then all of you. JUst kidding every body. It was not funny but i try. But seriously. Write us stuff cause we are dying. And you get some cool stickers and shit and maybe a shirt, or a picture with me and salma hayek. hmmmmmmm....... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:35:03 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: MB subscribers Tribute Album To the Black Duck, or whoever thought of this idea to raise money, hell yeah! My band "Green Hell" is up for it. We've recorded a non-vocal version of Some Kinda Hate before, and gladly volunteer to cover this (with vocals) for the album. Or any other song. -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:21:49 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: Wolverine movie Glenn claimed somewhere that he was offered the part, but that he turned it down because of the script. Also, as several people pointed out, Glenn's invovement with Verotik would have no bearing on whether or not he got the role -- especially since the comic companies often do not have much or any involvement in casting when such movies are made. As for Marvel's financial difficulties, they would also have no bearing on the movie, for two reasons, anyway: 1. Marvel would not be financing the movie. 2. Marvel is still very much actively publishing. also, Tammy, are you sure Charlie Sheen is supposed to be Spider-Man? because Stan Lee has said many times that they will probably use an unknown actor of about 17 or 18 years old. And who doesn't date porn stars. oh yeah... I heard VIOLENT WORLD briefly. The Prong track was okay, as was the ? version of Return of the Fly. Most of the others weren't to my taste, although I'd have to listen to them again to really comment. Although on many songs, I thought they were good until the vocals started. -brett ------------------------------ From: sickboy@netcom.ca Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:43:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Glenn/Wolverine/Toronto To shed some light on this Glenn as Wolverine situation.I was thinkin whats a good question to ask that hasn't been asked a 100 times.Ah ha Wolverine!!SoI asked "the man they call Glennzig" after the Toronto show (of this year)I heard you were offered the part of Wolverine but turned it down cause the script was shit.He said no he's on chapter 11 then he proceeded to sit down and started having a conversation with me. Before this he was standing looking bored signing shit while peolpe ask the same old questions.He really seemed interested in talking about this.Another thing Glennzig said is Marvel have a hard time making big movies cause it usually gets tied up in court over who owns what.Then I say somthin about James Cameron and the Spiderman movie.Then I shook his hand and said cool thanks.I can't remember the exact conversation but that's about the just of it. Is it just me, or does that dude singing Return of the Fly on Violent World tribute cd sound like Micheal Graves? Especially when he holds the notes.Anybody or am I just a mental case? //Brad// "Man its colder than pimp's heart!"-Prison Bound-S.D. ------------------------------ From: Beowulf@excaliber.com Date: 27 Feb 1997 22:42:44 EDT Subject: The Thought Police have spoken! Submit and obey! To Stephen Gorny, the genius that referred to me as "some dumb bastard" (when I much prefer "ignorant racist bastard"), wow thanks for showing me that there is someone out there less informed on Skinheads and WP music than Jerry Springer. I don't wanna take up even more space by cutting and pasting the entire grossly misinformed post, so I'll just pick a couple of the most glaring fuck-ups. "Let me explain the Ian Stewart thing for the IDIOTS who don't seem to realize when Ian sings songs about hanging immigrants and "Fuck the IRA" that he's a Nazi. Skrewdriver was originally a fairly left-wing Oi! band out of Great Britain. Their VERY early stuff, the first 12", some early comp tracks really doesn't show their racist tendencies. Stewart was a closet Nazi at this point, but decided he would not come out because of the fact it wasn't popular and he wouldn't get popular the Nazi way." First off, the name is IAN STUART, or Ian Stuart Donaldson if you wanna be picky. A left-wing Oi! band?? Pretty impressive considering there was never any such thing. ------------------------------ From: Beowulf@excaliber.com Date: 27 Feb 1997 22:42:44 EDT Subject: The Thought Police have spoken! Submit and obey! To Stephen Gorny, the genius that referred to me as "some dumb bastard" (when I much prefer "ignorant racist bastard"), wow thanks for showing me that there is someone out there less informed on Skinheads and WP music than Jerry Springer. I don't wanna take up even more space by cutting and pasting the entire grossly misinformed post, so I'll just pick a couple of the most glaring fuck-ups. "Let me explain the Ian Stewart thing for the IDIOTS who don't seem to realize when Ian sings songs about hanging immigrants and "Fuck the IRA" that he's a Nazi. Skrewdriver was originally a fairly left-wing Oi! band out of Great Britain. Their VERY early stuff, the first 12", some early comp tracks really doesn't show their racist tendencies. Stewart was a closet Nazi at this point, but decided he would not come out because of the fact it wasn't popular and he wouldn't get popular the Nazi way." First off, the name is IAN STUART, or Ian Stuart Donaldson if you wanna be picky. A left-wing Oi! band?? Pretty impressive considering there was never any such thing. .From the 4-Skins to Combat 84 to The Last Resort all the major Oi! bands of the late 70's and early 80's were right wing working class patriotic bands (it was the whole point of the movement). None of their songs from the debut album, ALL SKREWED UP, can possibly be interpreted as leftist. Ian was _never_ a closet nazi, he was involved with the British Movement and the NF since his early days as a Skin. More on that later tho. ""Paki-bashing" was the biggest thing...the large Pakistani contingent in England at the time was victim to Skrewdriver and fellow Nazi bands like Bound For Glory, Squadron, etc.'s raids. They also began to throw Nazi music fests, which have been a yearly event since 1986 or so. They also attacked the Irish." This one is my personal favorite. In case anyone out there still thinks this dumbass knows what he's talking about, Bound For Glory started in Minnesota (that's in the U.S. NOT the U.K.) in 1989!!! And paki-bashing was always a favorite passtime of Skins since the 60's. AND Ian never attacked the Irish. He was probably one of the few Englishmen that _didn't_ hate the Irish, tho he did hate the marxist IRA. "White Pride is NOT cool. Beowulf, I consider your comments to affiliate you with the Nazi movement, and for that you should be exiled from the Misfits bible and given a serious beatdown." Is too. I should know because I'm so damn cool. Uh oh, my comments don't fit in with your idea of "democracy", better kick me off and only allow those with ideas that conform to yours. That's enough of his sillyness, onto some even more warped nonsense. "The reason I say Skrewdriver were a failure as a band is because they had to sell out to the National Cunts, (err I mean National Front - oh I was right the first time, sorry) to get their name more noteriety. They deserve to get passed over." Dude you obviously don't know dick about the history of Skrewdriver. Don't try to make assumptions based on the little knowledge you've garnished .from the latest MTV Hate Rock special. Ian was a member of the NF before Skrewdriver released their tracks on the UNITED SKINS comp, so selling out is an impossibility. In fact it was the other way around: Ian took a more radical approach to help the Front grow, since Skrewdriver had already earned a huge name for themselves in the punk and Oi! scene, and hardly needed any help gaining more noteriety. "The fact that you described Resistance's double tribute album with such apparent love and accuracy shows me and everybody else on the Misfits Bible where you fall on the food chain." Dang Sherlock you blew my cover, and I was trying so hard to keep my beliefs secret too. Yeah I own the album, and everything else Resistance has released, as well as everything released by Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver. In fact, my whole damn music collection is online if yer that curious. Sure the lyrics can't compare to "pass me da crack pipe, pull out mah glock, gonna smoke me some herb, gonna gank me a cracka" but I like it... "Any asshole reading this that dares to try and bring up any black rap album that they claim has anti-white lyrics is going to die trying, because none ever existed and ever will exist." hahaha dude you've been smokin way too much ganja and listening to Bob Moolie (see I can play the silly name game too). Yeah gangsta rap is the most peaceful music I can think of! Did whites come up with the terms "white devil" and "honkie"? Anyone that believes this guy will also believe me when I say that Skrewdriver was really a Grateful Dead tribute band! Anyone out there with any common sense will see just how fucked up and hypocritical these people who preach "equality" and "peace" really are. Black pride is great but White Pride just isn't "cool". Freedom of speech indeed. I apologize for the long post, but someone has to stand against the thought police. if anyone would like to read a condensed history of Skrewdriver and download .wavs from their numerous albums visit: http://www.excaliber.com/thor/ian.htm 'Till the next instance of communism running rampant on the Bible, Anthony Plunder Plunder & Pillage (THE site for Oi!/punk/RAC) http://www.excaliber.com/thor/home.htm "Somebody once said to me, "If there was a race war, whose side would you be on?" I said, "Well I'm white - whose side do you think I'd be on?!"" - Glenn Danzig ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:43:30 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: It seems a little purple... Hello fiends... Misfits 101... just a little lesson in purple... Well thanks to one of the fiends from the bible, i have a purple Die Die now, which has now made it clear there were more than Earth AD hybrids. The purple is marbled with blue and red. This is kind of like the purple vinyl Who Killed Marilyn. There are ones that have red marbling in them. All you need to do is hold it up to the light. Though the funny thing is, most dealers even those who know their stuff, just don't seem to take the time to look. That was done with my Earth AD's. I have two that were called purple vinyl. One is such a light purple with pink, red and blue marbling in it, though the record store owner called it purple. Another record store sold me again a purple Earth AD, this was such a dark purple and red color, that when you hold it up to the light you can see what kind of looks like blood flowing through it. So take your chances on the color vinyls, but you may not quite know what to expect. Plus its not just purple, i have white that has bits of black in it. This can be found on the white Die Die and the Three Hits. It seems that Glenn had a thing for creating hybrids, there is a pink Initium, other than the famous pink Legacy. Sean - is your copy of Thrall an American copy? They got cheap out in Australia, i just have 7 tracks, though it was a limited edition picture CD. AZ - what are you doing man, picking up hitchhikers at shows ;) Adam - SOA depends on the color of the vinyl. though some record stores try to charge $70 for the black vinyl. The first press is green vinyl, and no black flag bars on Henry's arm. second press is black vinyl and has no band name on label. third has the band name on the label and it is black vinyl. going prices $30 - 70 and a total of 3000 presses. Teen Idles - first press with a heavy stock cover and the surface scratches easily. second press with thin paper cover. plus thanks a lot, jan. it says second pressing on back. prices $60 - 90. Dischord is a very tradable piece of vinyl, and you might just find them that way. Vinyl Ink has them from time to time, but they will charge the $70 for the SOA black vinyl. the best bet is to check out Yesterday and Today in MD. they do have original Dischord 7" from time to time and very reasonable prices. plus you can find them on the internet. phone # 301-279-7007. the bit about HR Giger sueing Glenn was a load of shit. plus no one body-surfed to serve anything to Glenn. I did ask several years ago, and it was that Giger was after those bootlegging the image on to shirts and such. Though i'm sure there are others who know more to the story. well that is enough for today, i have this crazy idea that i might finish this post early and actually get some sleep. though that never happens. hope everyone has a great weekend. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Bible #302 Metallica "Whiplash" 12" 4 HITS FROM MARS Misc. bible Re: Bonehead Idiots make me sick! bootlegs again auction BOOTLEGS Agnostic Front Righteous Black Duck RECORD AUCTION a little bit of knowledge Misfits Meeting Stuff Metallica Demo Glenn's shirt 4 hits from mars is the bomberino request.tab SCREWDRIVER Glenn's Chops Re: The thought police.... Wanted: Danzig necklace 88! 99? violent world Obsessions and the Pipeline It's a sign... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:34:10 From: Justin Deming Subject: ***A POST YOU MUST READ!*** ***A POST YOU MUST READ!*** *To Mark & The BIBLE readers at large* You deserved so much better than this, Mark. After all of your hard work in not only making MISFITS CENTRAL and also producing THE MISFITS BIBLE 3 motherfreaking times a goshdarn week (I'm not cursing anymore, bear w/ me), what does everyone do to show our unending appreciation? This Skrewdriver bullshit is thrown in everyone's face by some inconsiderate asshole. Before I begin commentating on that, let me first state my normal policy on such matters. I'm 80 issues (or more) old now (exactly how many K is that, Mark???) as a subscriber. I've seen these fly-by-night heated debates come and go. Hell, it didn't take me long to become the center of one (Ken Ward, remember little ol' me?). Those of you who've been here long enough should know what I'm talking about. Let's not rehash it. Anyway, I quickly learned from that situation that THE MISFITS BIBLE always has 3-5 pointless debates going on. For instance, this recent America vs. Canada crap was really, really childish. I can't begin to tell anyone how silly it was to sit here and listen to adults bicker over whose country was tops. Of course, I'd say 90% was intended as humor (if not, it was just that damn stupid)! I'm digressing here. To get back on the right track, there are always a few of these wasting everyones' time, but I picked up on something I'm not sure how many others have realized. A good 80% of the reason these things last sooooo long is because you get 100 people every BIBLE saying, "Stop talking about such and such!" More and more people start saying that shit BIBLE after BIBLE. I'd almost call it a MISFITS BIBLE trend (ew, the "t"-word 'll piss off some punkers, but it's true). The "get this outta here" people grow more and more, until they are 95% of the people bringing it up at all! Meanwhile, those being singled out and attacked get more and more defensive until they just quit. Okay, new paragraph, because the last one went too many directions. My point is this: When an annoying topic comes up in THE MISFITS BIBLE, leave it the heck alone! No, I'm not trying to take away your freedom of speech or oppress your "minority views" or any other rock cliches. Ignore the standard buzz-word reactions for just a second and think about this. When you say, "Hey, stop talking about such and such" first, you're going to open the floodgates, so to speak, and we'll spend much time scrolling by messages that keep the users with limited K amounts per mail from receiveing the entire BIBLE. On the other hand, and this is most of you, when you see someone else say "Stop talking about such and such," and add your $0.02, you're not helping out. I mean, if you have a well thought out post, go ahead and give your view, but I'm tired of seeing 300 sentences that are the SAME, give or take a few words. "Stop talking about blah-blah-blah, you're wasting our time!" or "This is THE MISFITS BIBLE, not the BLAH-BLAH-BLAH BIBLE!" or "Stop posting the damned SBTB sighting!" ET CETRA! People, stop giving your opinions when you have nothing to say about it. Right now, I do. Before I get to that, one last safeguard. Many of you may feel as though I'm attacking you personally, and "defend yourself" by saying I've just spent a whole post saying not to post posts like the post I just posted. (<--- Now that was fun!) Well, you're wrong. 1) For one, this is a well thought out post I've spent plenty of time on (I can *NOT* type very well). I didn't pull one of these: "Stop dragging on these useless topics, they really make the BIBLe suck." No, folks, I wrote a real friggin' post, here! 2) I don't believe the issue has been touched on, yet. The general area of bad topics gumming up THE MISFITS BIBLE has, but not this specific area. The point is, don't jump on the bangwagon. When you see 200 people saying "Nazi punks suck," you're not helping a single thing by adding, "Yeah, nazi punks suck," because at that point, those 'nazi punks' just aren't the problem anymore (if they ever were), YOU ARE! *To the Rightous Black Duck* Listen, man, I don't know you, and you don't know me. Let's scratch "personal vendettas" off of the list. I am NOT a Nazi. Scratch "Justin's a Nazi 'fuck'" off of the list. I'm not a big hip-hop fanatic. I'm white. Two strikes against me? Only to the ignorant mind. We have no history, I have no preference in your subject of choice (I didn't know shit about "Skrewdriver" until I heard about them here, which means I still know little except some think they were "nazi fucks"), and I am, whether you'd like to admit it or not, totally unbiased. Here's what I see happening. A few people mention a band called Skrewdriver. The Rightous Black Duck, and a few others, go off on this band. Hey, when some racist rap group (and they DO exist, to say that they don't is equal to saying vinyl records are digital) goes off on "da man," meaning us honkies, I take offense. Hey, I know how you feel. Keep in mind, though, most of the racism against me as a white person comes from sources other than rap, since I let myself be subjected to as little as possible. Don't make a big deal out of a non-issue, there's a bigger matter to discuss here. These Skrewdriver fans respond saying that this Ian guy stood up for what he believed in, and for the most part, they did it without any profanity or immaturity (don't say now that "racism is immature, though..." Respond to the real issues). I'm not saying I agree with all or any of what they said, I'm saying they stated their piece in the proper manner. However, the Rightous Black Duck becomes the Outraged Almighty Rightous One, and feels the need to not only flame all Skrewdriver fans, but "rally against them" among the BIBLE, AKA intentionally attempt to stir up shit. I don't mean to interupt your Rightous, Christian mission to alienate these pariahs and bring them to your own justice, but I feel the need to point out that YOU are the only one causing problems here, and if you're not going to be happy until the evil-doers are gone, it's time for you to leave. I'm not defending Skrewdriver fans. I'm not shunning them, either! I don't know about their beliefs and morals, but even if I did, that would be no justication for a "Rightous Crusade" against them such as the one you're starting. They should be left to believe whatever they want to believe, no matter how you interpet it. For instance, if you became the "Anti-White Duck," I, at least, wouldn't start a "Rightous Crusade" to rid the BIBLE of such filth. I might mention you, say I disagree with you, but I would NEVER start a flame-war, on purpose, and then cause a rift in the BIBLE by saying "Join my crusade against these racist scumbags!" You're not simply stating your view, you're flaming them and encouraging others to flame them, get them out of here, etc. Rightous Black Duck, sir, it is YOU that is wrong. *An important outro* Right now, I have a mental image of the Misfits logging on and checking out this MISFITS BIBLE, wondering what their fans are up to. I see them scratch their heads at the sight of a campaign against Skrewdriver, an America vs. Canada feud, etc. Let's not forget all of the four-man line-ups, past and present, that are what we're supposed to be talking about! To avoid that last sentence counting as a bandwagony comment, I'll ellaborate. There's more to reality than the Misfits, and there's also more to the Misfits than the music. We're humans, and topics will branch out. This is good, IMO. I like to see intelligent debate, when handled properly (when was the last time that happened?). However, we should totally forsake the 'Fits for all of the bullshit that envelopes it ever-so-often. At least there's good things in here like the 4 Hits >From Mars comments, Violent World reviews, Danzig rumors/news (at least it's related stuff), collector info, bootleg-related topics, and of course, BOBBY STEEL! I've rambled on quite enough, bouncing from topic to topic faster than I could make many of my points fairly often. It's 2:30 in the fucking morning (yes, I'm cursing again), any butchering of the English language is tough bananas! I still think this is a pretty good post, despite, and I hope this saves ol' Mark some trouble in writing us a post to tell us loud young-uns to turn it down! Lastly, this was, indeed, a HUGE post... and I'm not in the least bit sorry!!! - Justin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:36:12 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Night of the Creeps Hey Mark, long time, no post...I been busy. I just looked at the list of the rejected songs for the album and just noticed Creeps. For anyone who doesn't know about this movie, it's quite possibley the greatest cheap 80s horror flick. There are so many cool lines from that flick. Hell, they even bomb a sorority house (Gamma Delta Iota, aka God Damned Independent). I've loved it since I was about 9. I hope they re-work the song and put it out, 'cause I'd really like to hear a 'fits song for it. I wrote a little ditty last year, but my lyrics usually stink and I have very little music talent. I have 2 different copies of the movie, both store bought, both with a different ending than I remember from when i was a kid...anybody out there know if there was a NIGHT OF THE CREEPS 2? Well, everybody else is quoting, so why don't I: "Thrill me" "Hey girls, the good news is your dates are here." "What's the bad news?" "They're dead." The Looser Formerly Known as HorrorKid..... hmmm, now that I can't use that, how 'bout ....hmmmm..... anybody steal my PCCazulty? ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:19:26 Subject: tes777; yes. my copy is an American copy of Thrall. I got it at a Sam Goody record store a couple of months ago. Sean ------------------------------ From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano Subject: The Righteous Black Duck, Racism and music Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:24:26 (First off, Mark buddy, I know you wanted this to end, but dammit, this cocksucker made it public and I intend to embarrass him in public like he deserves...the fight continues) When you can actually prove that there are anti-white and/or anti-Semetic rap lyrics in existence, go right ahead and try, By that time, Lucifer will be hosting the NHL All Star Game. "Devils" never did and never will mean all whites, only the Klan/Skinhead demons that spout the lies you seem to believe in (and probably won't admit it). Second of all, I am not homophobic, against gays or whatever. I'll repeat, I used the term faggot to describe what Klansman and Nazis and their ilk really are, I would never call someone like say, RuPaul such a derogatory term. Thirdly, what makes you think I'm out and out Rastafarian. Some of my belief system does reflect Rasta, yet some also relfects Christian, Hebrew and Islamic items. It's also very unfair to claim Rastafarians as anti-Semetic considering how much Rasta parallels Judaism, right down to the use of the Star Of David. If I was anti-Semetic, I would not waste 40 hours a week working for someone of the Jewish faith, and I would never have participated in seders that I was invited to. Fourthly, the only thing I termed righteous was me, in a sense. "Righteous Black Duck" happens to be my nickame, my music publishing company name, and my ego. It's a reference to Daffy Duck, for chrissakes! Fifthly, accusing me of intolerance is bullshit. The only thing I do not tolerate is racism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Sixthly, obviously I don't give a flying fuck what any KKK head thinks of anything anti-racists do, because as anti-racists we wre out to embarrass and eventually eradicate the perpetrators of such demonic rhetoric. Once these pinheads realize that there's more of us than there are of them, maybe they'll take a hint from their god Adolf and give head to a handgun. Finally, as long as this racist bullshit that the likes of you spouts keeps popping up anywhere, be it the Misfits Bible, the TLC maillist, or whereever, I intend to stomp the shit out of it by any means necessary. End of fucking story for now.... NO NAZIS! NO KKK! NO FASCIST USA! "Don't go chasing waterfalls, please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to..." -- TLC CJ Carey aka "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ------------------------------ From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano Subject: So, WHO'S THE BRAINDEAD ASSHOLE HERE? NOT ME! Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:39:10 First of all Anthony (Oh my God! He actually has a name!), I love the way you proceeded to twist my comments and those of Stephen Gorny's just to fit your braindead idea of how life should be lived on this planet. FIRST OFF, Skrewdriver had very little following to speak of before they sould out to Rock-A-Rama. Their few works for Chiswick were not very notable saleswise or artistically, and their concerts drew a lot of troublemakers. (See the book Punk Diary 1970-1979, published by St. Martin's Press) SECOND OF ALL, I don't smoke weed or do any drugs at all, and I'd be very happy to piss in a cup at the doctor's office to prove it. In fact, I'd be very happy to piss in a cup if you drink it!!! Obviously, I'd be very happy to piss on Ian Stuart and Joe Rowan's gravesites, but that's another story. THIRD OF ALL, what makes you think I'm Black, asshole? FINALLY, why haven't you taken a cue from your god Adolf and given head to a handgun? FUCK YOU AND EVERYBODY WHO THINKS LIKE YOU (I.E. WITH LESS THAN FIVE BRAIN CELLS) "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ------------------------------ From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano Subject: Hey, wait a second... Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:45:50 In the last Misfits Bible, saccet01@kepler.poly.edu wrote: > i am of mixed African and Italian Blood, and I own several Skrewdriver Albums... WHOA HOLD ON THERE!! You actually gave your hard earned money to Nazi/Klan funded companies in trade for their music, and you're Black and Italian? Something is way wrong with this picture...allow me to quote the Dead Kennedys: "In a real Fourth Reich you'll be the first to go". We're supposed to be fighting these assholes, not supporting them. I shitcanned my Ted Nugent and Metallica records when I found out what racist assholes Nugent and James Hetfield were, I certainly wouldn't give money to Resistance! THINK ABOUT IT -- HARD!!!! CJ Carey aka "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ------------------------------ From: "\"The Righteous Black Duck\" CJ Marsicano" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible to infinity and beyond... Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:52:41 OK, Marks' going to keep the MB going, all praises due... I'm happy. He'll still need some financil help, just in case, and so far, a lot of people seem to be up for the benefit compilation idea. Since the MB is going to be a continuing thing, so should the benefit recordings be. They don't necessarily have to be Misfits covers, just cuts from Fiend bands. What about formats? 7" EP, cassette, CD, what? Anybody interested, e-mail me at irieduck@ptd.net as well as on the MB and we'll discuss this in greater detail. CJ Carey aka "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:36:37 From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Mars Continued With all due respect to the bands on the "4 Hits From Mars" EP, I'd like to remind everyone on the Bible of the many bands that were not chosen for the project and how they all deserve support and attention as well. And yes, I have heard the bands on the EP and I think they are all good. Jake, perhaps you could provide some info on those bands in order for them to gain some notoriety. For starters, I would like everyone to know about some bands that have been mentioned on the Bible in the past. The Ninjas, The Astro Zombies, Green Hell, 138, Morey Strauss' band (cant remember what you guys are called), XZVampires, of course, my band, Devilock and all the countless other bands who cover Fits songs. I can provide info on most of these bands and how you can obtain their music as well. So just e-mail me. And of course, support the bands on "4 hits" too. Perhaps, if there is enough interest, I could make a tape of all these bands and and others that anyone would like to send me, and we'd have a large number of cuts to listen to. Of course, it would sound like crap on tape but what can ya do. What do you guys think? Again, still support the "4 Hits From Mars," (I dont need any flames from people who think I'm doggin' the EP.) Thanks, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 08:19:11 From: Scott Perry Subject: Dream band My dream band would be as follows: Joey DeMaio: bass Jerry Cantrell: guitar 1 Adrian Smith: guitar 2 Neil Peart: drums Glenn Danzig: vocals This and would be the best even if you substituted Steve Harris for Joey on bass. Does anyone have a definite date for the release of the Death Dealer soundtrack. Thanks guys Scott ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:27:16 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #302 Hello fiendz! > To the bands, on the 4 Hits From Mars 7": > > On behalf of The Idiot Police, I'd like to say hello and congratulations! > The 7" is far better than any of the recent tributes, thanks to you guys! > All of you are great. (especially Undermine--right on!). > > Killer stuff everyone, pick one up. Wow thanks alot, that really means alot to us. I equally love the Idiot Police track. The interpretation of "We Are 138" is phenominal. The bass sound and the vocals just kick ass. The other tracks are really great too. Each one of them are incredible. As for UNDERMINE, sorry to say, we broke up shortly before the tribute was released. I'm in a band called 30 HELENS now and I play bass. I'm still screaming though in a new project with a familiar name SEVENTH DAWN. (Yes, I ripped it off of the old danzig fan club). I still have a ton of old UNDERMINE stuff, some of which isn't our best work. I'd love to unload some of our 7"s for $2ppd to anyone who might want one. We also have some copies of the Frozen Monkey Records and Raw Recordings CD comps that we were on for $6 each postage paid. I'll send you a 7", an UNDERMINE live tape with demo's and both comps for $13 Postage Paid. I really encourage everyone to pick up the tribute 7" though. Its really cool. If anyone has listened to it, I'd like to hear your reviews. Thanks. Devils are born in angels arms. TOM UNDERMINE GogmaGod Records Rd 1 Box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, NY 12592 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 08:43:52 From: Scott Perry Subject: Skulls Does anyone know if the offer to send in skulls of animals and stuff still applies. Because I'm going to have the opportunity to collect a whole bunch of skulls soon and if the Misfits want them I cna send them in or something. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:20:06 (EST) From: "Daniel J. Jakel" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #302 It's been a bloody long time since I've posted here, and nobody probably remembers me anyway. So there are some people here who do not approve of the Violent World Tribute CD. I myself bought it when it came out and didn't like it at first. I listened to it again a week later and it was better, much better in fact. THe only really sad ass covers were by Tanner, Earth Crisis, Snapcase and Prong. I like Prong a lot, but that version of London Dungeon was crummy. I could have done better with just an acoustic guitar. SO those of you who hate it, give it another try and you'll probably find that its not so bad after all. I also hated the NOFX cover. I suggest getting in touch with some European people and order the European Misfits Tribute album, "Hell on Earth...Hail to Misfits." It's got twice as many songs, and about 20 bands doing 1 or 2 songs. There is a good amount of diversity between these bands too, and some of the interpretations are downright amazing. It'll cost like $20 or something, I got in touch with a fellow MB reader myself. It's worth getting, you will not be disappointed. Nice racist nazi arguments going on. I've read just what was in the most recent bible, so I won't make any judgements. I agree with most people, take it somewhere else. It's interesting reading, but its clogging up the bible with un-Misfits stuff. For the record, a suprising amount of black people just don't like whites. They're not open or vocal about it, but they don't like white people. Music is a good medium to voice your opinions, and there are gangsta rappers out there who dispise any white person, no matter who they are. They will sing about it, and they are totally free to do so. I don't approve of that, nor do I approve of what these Nazi tpye bands are doing, but they have every right to do so. As long as these people don't bother me, I don't care what they do, as long as its not on this newsletter. --Dan-- Support your local music scene! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:23:37 -0330 (NST) From: Shaun Young Subject: members tribute album? what is the deal with this? our band does a couple of misfits tunes too. you name it. anyway, i'll check to see what one we'll record for it, but we are definetly UP for it! lets do it! sounds like a lot of fun(well gore and blood and guts to of course) no metta, shaun. ------------------------------ From: mk Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #302 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 08:57:22 (EST) > From: WOLFER138@aol.com > >show from December 22, 1978. As for the Max's Kansas City bootleg, > > How can u be sure that jerry has THE ONLY full copy of this? > Im sure there was someone else that recorded it or that jerry mite have given > a copy of it to. Hey Sean. That's a good point. I suspect that Glenn might have a copy of the show as well, since he must have given a copy of "Attitude" to Flipside Magazine for their 1984 compilation. It's possible that Jerry has given out copies, but usually that kind of stuff doesn't take long to surface. > From: DAVID TESTA > Subject: original metallica demo for sale > > was interested in an original Metallica demo tape. It is called > 'Whiplash" and was put out by Megaforce records and marketed by > Important record Distributers, Inc. Both sides of the tape are > labeled "Side A", whith the same songs listed but only one side has > music. The songs are as follows: Jump in the Fire, Anesthesia > (Pulling Teeth), Whiplash, Seek & Destroy, and Phantom Lord. To my > knowlegde this is the first recording with bassist Cliff Burton. Well no, this isn't quite correct. The Whiplash EP was released by Megaforce in 1985, probably to finish off the band's contract with the label. By then they had already signed to Elektra. The EP doesn't feature any demos - it has the same version of Jump In The Fire and Anesthesia (which does not appear on the vinyl version) that are on Kill 'Em All. Whiplash (Neckbrace Remix) is a slight remix of the original version. The other 2 tracks are live tracks from '83 that originally appeared on the Jump In The Fire 12". This EP is probably one of the scarcest Metallica items, and the cassette is definitely harder to find than the vinyl. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:25:47 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: Metallica "Whiplash" 12" >From: DAVID TESTA >Subject: original metallica demo for sale >"I know this has nothing to do with the Misfits but I also know that >alot of Misfits fans like Metallica. So I was wondering if anyone >was interested in an original Metallica demo tape. It is called >'Whiplash" and was put out by Megaforce records and marketed by >Important record Distributers, Inc. Both sides of the tape are >labeled "Side A", whith the same songs listed but only one side has >music. The songs are as follows: Jump in the Fire, Anesthesia >(Pulling Teeth), Whiplash, Seek & Destroy, and Phantom Lord. To my >knowlegde this is the first recording with bassist Cliff Burton." i have the 12" vinyl of this cassette if anyone is interested in making an offer as well. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:28:17 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: 4 HITS FROM MARS >From: Krusty704@aol.com >Subject: 4 HITS FROM MARS >"I just got my 4 Hits From Mars 7" in the mail yesterday, and you can >me to the long list of happy customers. Its the less-professional >tribute of the two and is pretty damn good. All of the bands have good >interpretations, and like mark said, even if you don't like it, the gold >vinyl is fuckin cool. >And Jake, thanks for the promo 7", you didn't have to send me it! >Check out ADAM WEST, their music is definetly worth your money, and its >cheap!" thanks, chris! there is also blue vinyl that looks fucking cool as well! for any ADAM WEST fans out there, the new CD MONDO ROYALE should definitely be out in april. it's being mastered this monday and sent off to the plant. i'll probably be offering a discounted order price to the misfits bible, so keep checking my posts. thanks for all the support! >From: COTTER TIM EXC PP US >Subject: 4 hits from mars >"Just got my copies of 4 hits from mars 7". I was greatly impressed by >the other bands versions. They are Awesome(to me-they capture the >misfits sound) It looks like they put a lot more time(maybe money?? ) into >their recordings than I did. Like it says on the sleeve I recorded this one >night in Sept 96' and I had fun doing it. All I had was a 4 track(no >mixer, no effects) and did each track one at a time(only once in one >night). Hope everyone enjoys it and I recommend everyone buy it. This >is real chance for everyone to show their support of the original >Misfits without being ripped of(IMHO)f in the re-issue world." for those of you who don't know, silent noise AKA tim cotter did a version of "horror business" for the EP. it was one of the first submissions that i decided on keeping cuz i thought it was done so well, in a different kinda vein. i'm definitely proud of the bands and the EP, so thanks again to silent noise, undemine, ripsnorter, and the idiot police! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:30:18 From: "Kevin L. Kuder" Subject: Misc. Hey, I just wanted to say that there is a cool Misfits tribute band called Devilock that unfortunately didn't make it onto the 4 Hits from Mars comp. Noss sent me a copy of it and it was pretty cool. They do a killer version of Horror Hotel (one of my personal faves). I don't know his email address, but I'm sure if you get ahold of Noss he'll hook ya up with a great tape. There doesn't seem to be much good to read in the recent Bibles. Mostly junk about nazis, Skrewdriver, and other bullshit. Let's get back to the Misfits, man! I want to know whats going on with one of the most awesome punk bands ever! To the guys at Evil magazine: no, I didn't get my zine in the mail, but I will look for it. Does anyone have an autographed picture of the Misfits (including Glenn) that they would like to sell? I need something cool for my wall. Kuder ------------------------------ From: gg0u50a4@liverpool.ac.uk Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:01:21 +0000 Subject: bible Hello. My name is Aaron Ellis. I have been reading the Bible for a while but this is my first posting. I have a couple of points to make. First on the Slayer debate, If you think the S in Slayer is close to the SS strike then check out Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and We Sold Our Souls for Rock and Roll. Also on Sabbath in their early days their intro sequence was, dangerously, very close to some occult rituals, so much so that they were warned by witches over here, and they got rid of it. This is in 1969. It has always been about imagery, that is what makes it cool. Back to Slayer, I have seen them twice, once in Donnington, and they were fucking excellent. I have also met them when they were rehearsing for the European Tour in 1991, in Liverpool. All of them were cool, it was kinda funny seeing Tom and Dave walking around your town centre, to the point where Kerry threw plecks at us. And Hannemann wrote Angel of Death, with his fascination for war, not King. But many people have different beliefs and we have to live with that, nobody wants to lower themseves to the way the Christians persecuted the Pagans. I really would not be arsed if the fits got in a gay nazi aboriginal drummer as long as he kicked arse, had a devilock and kept time, obviously. And talkin of the fits, thats why we are here, I have been into them since 1989, and over here in England it became impossible about 4 years ago. I completely lost touch to a point were I didnt know they had reformed. It is suprising but this is great because they are one of the best bands in the world ever. I also have a theory for you to chew on; go back and listen to the singles from 77/78. Compare the production with that from say NOTLD. Even though it should be better later on it isnt. Well people were trying to cash in and get the next Pistols or Ramones, the money was about. But as Punk fizzled out and New Wave came in it became much harder to play or even record (1980). To be a success they had to change but the Misfits didnt conform. And Im glad because we wouldnt be talking about them now. To keep in with the silly quotes: As Evil Lyn once said to Skeletor "Your just a pile of fuckin bones, man!" E-mail: gg0u50a4@liverpool.ac.uk Aaron Ellis gg0u50a4@liverpool.ac.uk Tel: +44 0151 260 2413 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:04:16 (EST) From: Daniel McGarrigan Subject: Re: Bonehead Idiots make me sick! On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, mk wrote: Beowulf wrote: > First off, the name is IAN STUART, or Ian Stuart Donaldson if you wanna > be picky. A left-wing Oi! band?? Pretty impressive considering there was > never any such thing. > ------------------------------ To name a few Oi! bands that are left wiing: Angelic Upstarts, Sham 69, Last Resort, The 4skins, The Oppressed, The Blitz, among others. Yes there is a such thing as left-wing nationalism ------------------------------ From: dave rieth Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:19:33 Subject: bootlegs again Anyone interested in bootleg videos for trade I now have my updated list at : http://members.tripod.com/~degenerated/home.html I have Germs videos, Dk, Misfits, Samhain, and Rancid And I am looking for more Misfits, Samhain, DK, along with videos of Social Distortion, U.K. Subs, Minor Threat, Black Flag, G.G. Allin, D-generation, Ramones, The Queers, Descendents, T.S.O.L., D.I., Vandals, Agent Orange, The Offs, The Clash, Jello Biafra spoken word, 88 Fingers Louie, Earth Crisis, Trauma School Dropouts, Lard, Sid Vicious (solo), NOFX, The specials, the Insaints, Diesel Queens, F.U.'s, Operation Ivy, All, the Exploited, Anti-Nowhere League, Fear ok ok ok pretty much any punk or ska band ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:04:21 (PST) From: bill avery Subject: auction O.K Fiends this is the last week to get your bids and trade offers in, so here's what is left.sardonica@hotmail.com later and thanks to all, bill Misfits 12": EAD plan 9 $35 EAD purple wax $72 LOB on white signed by Glenn $125 Flipside fanzine w/insert and signed by Glenn $37 WAU 1st press signed by Glenn,Jerry ,And Doyle $151 WAU 2nd press signed by Jerry and Doyle $76 Samhain: Season of the Dead w/tour poster crimson wax $56 Misfit 7": NOTLD $88 Cough/Cool $500 Who KIlled blk wax$71 Misc: Danzig 1 promo disk signed by Glenn $61 Rollins Band EOS signed by Henry $44 promo poster IN MY HEAD $35 Fiend Club poster $30 Danzig 3Boxset $48 --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Mike Hoffman Subject: BOOTLEGS Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 13:50:11 i've got the Misfits "Return of the fly" thick vinyl pressing $12.00 the Misfits "79' Perfect Crime" $ 9.00 the Misfits "Demonmania Club " 2 CD what every you offer Thanks MIKE e-mail me if interested mhoffman@clab.cecil.cc.md.us ------------------------------ Date: 28 FEB 97 17:02:16 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Agnostic Front I remember seeing Agnostic Front mentioned last MB. They are going to be playing some shows, the first ones in a long time. I know they are at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park on 4/19/97. Though they themselves are not part a WP band by any means, their shows, similair to alot of punk shows (and your people who have seen Sham 69 back in the day know this) seem to attract a large WP element. Since NJ has the largest neo-nazi skin population in the nation, expect things to be rough. I plan on being there (no, I'm not WP either for you newbies) and to be taping it. az ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:02:18 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Righteous Black Duck If you were curious, yeah I will respond to the Duck's latest comments, but in private E-Mail where it belongs. NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:46:07 From: Devilman Subject: RECORD AUCTION THIS AUCTION WILL BE OPEN FOR ABOUT A MONTH AT THE MOST. FANGS They will go to the highest bidder. Keep in mind these are in excellent condition. 7inch singles: Cough/Cool 3 Hits (white vinyl) 3 Hits (black vinyl) 3 Hits (1st press blk. vinyl) Evilive 7inch (w/ insert) Halloween (w/ insert) Night of The Living Dead 12inches: Legacy (white vinyl) Evilive (green vinyl) Walk Among (pink cover) Walk Among (purple cover) Earth A.D. (yellow vinyl) Die Die (purple vinyl) Evilive (1st pressing) Wolfs Blood (German Pressing) Initium (red vinyl) Initium (small swirls within vinyl) November (orange vinyl) Submit offers to: devilman138@earthlink.net Thanks Another Devil Denied, DEVILMAN138 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 21:30:31 (PST) From: Jon Riley Subject: a little bit of knowledge For those of you who tend to have a problem with Skrewdriver because they are a National socialist here is some food for thought maybe it is just me but I tend to think that Glenn Danzig is atleast a supporter of National Socialist beliefs (and for those of you who are uneducated that is the true word for those of us who have became known as Nazi's)A: now some of you can say that the song he wrote and recorded that has never been released under "White Devil Rise" is not in any way a whitepower song I will not argue that too long I have never heard the song myself B: now I might be mistaken but I also tend to see Danzig using symbols of the NSDAP such as the Iron Cross throught out his career C: and maybe it is yet another coincidence that his stage name Danzig in reality is the name of a city that was forcibly taken from the great nation of Deutschland after WWI, and then later this city became one of if not the most important city in Hitler's attempt to take back land that was forcibly taken from Deutshland at the end of WWI which had led Britain to declare war on this great nation of Deutschland yes that is right contrary to popular belief WWII was started when Britain had declared war on Deutschland and one last final thought for all you ppl who have a problem with Anti-semitism maybe you should direct some of your hate toward the Jews for their senseless murders of Palestinians that they have perpetrated over the past few centuries let me ask you how the attempted genocide of the Palestinian perpetrated by the jews is any worse then the holocaust was --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: cooper15@hsonline.net Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:08:29 -0600 Subject: Misfits Meeting Last Munday, there were hardly any people at all. Try to gather some more people Munday around 7:00 P.MP at: http://www.GeoCities.Com/Vienna/3640/ THANKS ! <(::: Dr. Acula :::)> ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 15:15:45 (EST) Subject: Stuff I reckon it was Gramps that stated that the young man who defends Ian Stuart should be banned from the Bible because of his association with the Nazi party.....seriouly now.....we need opposition in the world. If someone says something you disagree with, what does it do? It makes you think! If everyone had the same beliefs as you did, would the world be much fun? I think that was the first time Gramps said something I disagreed with. No one's perfect ;) Also, I think all these worries about the neo-nazis, etc are really blown up to be more serious than the are. Yes, they got control back in the '30s, but there is no way that anyone is going to forget about the horrors that happened back then, and the Nazi party will NEVER get the power it once did. I do have to agree with Mark, though. If you want to bash or give glory to Ian Stuart, do it on e-mail time. Not saying, you're not ALLOWED to do it in the forum, however it is inappropriate. OTHER STUFF Seriously, is Animal Room ever going to make it to a theater? I'd keep your eyes open at your local video store in the next few months, because I've got a feeling it's going to spend as much time in a theater as "Night Eyes 73" did. Four Hits From Mars, get it get it get it. I keep on getting e-mails from people who bitch about the Fiend Club---guys, IT'S FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You shouldn't expect anything for free! If you had to pay $20 to get in, then fine, get pissed. Jake Starr, didn't you mention something a while back about putting together all of the 4 Hits submissions on a tape? I think that would be kind of cool to hear. Wolfer, the odds of the Max's tape being out for so long without it being distributed are slim and none. Jerry is the only one with a complete copy. I, however, have compiled all of the tracks that have been made available--7 or 8, I think, I forget---that you can order from me as well as 70 minutes more stuff for your listening pleasure for a mere $5! Check the page. Also, anyone with new bootlegs that I do not have on the page, please e-mail me and we'll set up a trade! European Fiends, TAPE THOSE SHOWS! And has anyone heard about Ozz Fest part 2. Rumor is Pantera's actually going to be on this one.... MILWAUKEE METAL FEST---THE RETURN OF S O D!!!!!!!!!!!! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 07:29:09 From: The Blackwells Subject: Metallica Demo >From: DAVID TESTA >Subject: original metallica demo for sale >hey, >I know this has nothing to do with the Misfits but I also know that >alot of Misfits fans like Metallica. So I was wondering if anyone >was interested in an original Metallica demo tape. It is called >'Whiplash" and was put out by Megaforce records and marketed by >Important record Distributers, Inc. I thought the "original" metallica demo was called "No life 'Til Leather"(the first line of "Hit the Lights"), and was put out by the band, hence the name, "demo tape." Supposedly everybody west of the Mississippi had a copy before the first Megaforce release. That's at least what I remember reading years ago. I used to be a big fan of Metallica, and still am of their older material. And yes, that is how I got into the 'fits. Here's hoping you're swell, bullet138 ------------------------------ Date: 01 Mar 97 18:53:00 EST From: JOHN CULLEN <101557.1331@compuserve.com> Subject: Glenn's shirt I've got one of Glenn's old black string vests that he wore at the London show on the How The Gods Kill Tour a few years ago. It hasn't been washed (don't worry, it doesn't smell bad!), and has been unworen since. Any offers? I'm willing to part for cash, but what I really want is to trade it for something else, any offers? E-mail me at: 101557,1331@compuserve.com Liam Wolfen Cullen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 19:28:27 EST From: "Whittle, Patrick R." Subject: 4 hits from mars is the bomberino It's well worth the 4 bucks. The ending song (138) done almost indus- trial style by the Idiot Police is kinda cool. Whoever it was that did Skulls were a lil TOO accurate in their version...Die Die was great... Has anyone heard of a band called Drain? They're playing with Type-O Negative in April in Poughkeepsie. I still hope they do a tour with the Misfits some time. patrick the poughkeepsie fiend "this isn't really death, this isn't really life, this isn't really anything i think i like" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 17:44:11 From: R Hinojos Subject: request.tab looking for TAB: ---------------- MISFITS: any and all *new* material UNDEAD: "hollywood boulevard" "i don't wanna feel the pain anymore" "i'm so happy" "invisible man" "lies" "shadows" "slave to fashion" "strange creatures" KRYST: "thunder thruster" "in god we trust" "trial of the soul" "march of the mega-mites" "spellbound" ROY ORBISON: "life fades away" (chords missing) SAMHAIN: "night chill" "lords of the left hand" (rewrite) DANZIG: "anything" "bodies" (guitar riff) "left hand black" (rewrite) "hand of doom: version" (danzig riffs) "power of darkness" "ashes" (piano chords) BLACK ARIA: all songs UNEASY LISTENING: all songs ryq = ryq@aero.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 21:23:10 -0600 From: Gregg Subject: SCREWDRIVER Here it is: Screwdriver was singing about what they believed in. They wanted to keep their nation great. They may have been racist. They may have been vulgar at times. I'd like to see anybody here with enough guts to go against what is the popular opinion. They had GUTS. Oh yeah, STRAIGHT EDGE SUCKS. Nuff said. Shut yo mouth ho, IAN S. Tewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 22:04:21 -0600 (CST) From: nick winkleback Subject: Glenn's Chops Hello, This may be a pathetic subject, but I think it might be more interesting than the whole Nazi thing. Did anyone notice Glenn seems to have shaved his Wolverine-like sideburns? Does anyone have any thougths on this? Or, does anyone knwo around when he grew those things? Speaking of Glenn's hair, the guy's over forty, I wonder if he dyes it? Good day, Nick "My mirrors are black for you." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 13:11:48 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Re: The thought police.... Um....Beowolf. May I ask what brought my name into this? I never claimed to know anything about skinheads and WP music. If I did refer to you, or anyone else as "some dumb bastard" for being a racist - ok - I'll stand behind that 100%. But the truth is I have no recollection of what you are talking about and have pretty much skipped over every single message regarding this thread on the bible. I do not recall ever making any comments about my knowledge of such bands or their message or anything else on the matter. And what I do know about it definately did not come from MTV. Finally - as for the "thought police" reference. I really resent that. I would NEVER claim that people with dissenting view-points should NOT be allowed to express them. I would deend everyone and anyone's right to free speech - no matter the content. Anyways - I have steered way clear of this discussion and, in short, I think you've got the wrong guy here. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Stephen Gorny + Department of Psychology + University of MD Baltimore County + 1000 Hilltop Circle + this is the static age we live in Baltimore, MD 21250 + + sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 13:20:15 From: Devilman I almost forgot got... Also up for auction is: Misfits Collection II on green vinyl - mint condition Any questions you can e-mail me. FANGS Another Devil Denied, DEVILMAN138 http://home.earthlink.net/~devilman138 ------------------------------ From: MR BENJAMIN W BARNARD Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 16:39:36, Subject: Wanted: Danzig necklace As the subject says, I am looking for a Danzig necklace. The one with the skull on the inverted cross. I know they have been made available through fanclubs, mail order companies etc. I don't want THE one that Mr. Glenn sweated,spit,and bled on then threw to you at the show. I will pay your price (within reason, of course) but don't want it THAT bad. Let me know through e-mail if you want to get rid of one, or know where I should look. Oh, the one with the skull on the dagger (from How the Gods Kill vid) would do fine. Thanks in advance for any info..... BEN LCBL95A@prodigy.com ------------------------------ From: sickboy@netcom.ca Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:08:51 (EST) Subject: 88! 99? All this arguing over racisim here reminds of somthing funny that happened after the Danzig Toronto show.This drunk as hell tattooed skin goes up to Tommy Victor gets his autograph, then proceeds to yell 88 at Tommy.After that Tommy be-lines it for the bus and never came out again.The skin splits.After my friend says "88?,uhhh 99! Wayne Gretzky!" (get it hockey, 88 is Eric Lindros'#)We had quite the laugh. Then my same friend:Were meeting Glenn this chick ask Glenn for a hug so my freind says jokingly "I'll ask Glenn for a hug too".So he meets Glenn gets his jacket signed picture taken then ask "can I have a hug? Just kidding!"Don't know if Glenn herd that part cause he raises his elbow,with this smirk on his his face.Oh well it was still funny. //Brad// "Mr.Gribble, who is your all time hero? "You are if you get me some smokes!"---King of the Hill----- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 01:06:19 From: American Nightmare Subject: violent world I have thought about this for awhile and have decided to speak out! >False - Caroline is looking to make cash off of your fanfare. >True - This tribute came about out of the gluttony of bad tributes >out there. No it came out after the band reunited. That is a clear attempt to make lots of money! >This is a tribute from bands in the 90's to the Misfits. These bands >have >enough of their own talent and identity that they don't need to >emulate the >Misfits. The point of this record is: > >Interperation NOT emulation. No interpretation is needed. The Misfits kick enough ass on their own, they don't need Nofx or goldfinger two bands very different from the Misfits. The fact that 20 shitty bands like those on the album exist is tribute to the Misfits. (Except Prong they're cool) Don't argue with me because I am right! ------------------------------ From: Misfitmole@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:46:29 (EST) Subject: Obsessions and the Pipeline Hello, Since I was the one who reported that the 'Fits were playing Obsessions, I figured that I'd respond to (and agree with) those who passed negative comments about the club. Obsessions blows, flat out. Although I was pissed that the Castle show got cancelled, I'm glad the bill wasn't rescheduled at Obsessions. I just woudn't feel right playing at a club that treats local bands like shit. Anyway, Like someone said, the Pipeline would've been a great choice. It's by far that best punk club in Jersey. All of the bands who were supposed to play on the Castle bill (the slags, Sardonica, Squiggy, Flatus) all play there pretty regularily, and we're playing with Flatus there on the 19th of March. Also, keep an eye out for the Slags. Their bassist, Dan, used to play in a band with Chud. By the way, sorry to everyone who wanted to go to the Castle show. We're as disappointed as you are. Cheers, Joel (Squiggy) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 01:18:21 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: It's a sign... Hello fiends... first off, i have not seen any Misfits stuff pop up on any of the internet record pages. it seems to just be the genral items everyone seems to have. Though if anything turns up it will be posted. AZ, what's the deal? its as if you have those Dirty Black Summer promos multiplying like rabbits in your house. maybe you should consider seperating them for awhile. ;) Ok, there is definatly something wrong here. i just read someones post from Fridays bible and this is got to end. I figured that the racist shit talk, like last time would burn out. though there was something said that just blew me away. how could someone buy records from a band that they did not believe in what they were saying. get this straight, you are suporting a racist band no matter if you believe in their ideas or not. you buy the record, you put money in their pockets, you suport their cause. its as cut an dry as that. a lot of the records for them are worth money, but i refuse to make money off hate that they spew. its the same as i do not believe in what GG had to say, and i have not and never will buy sell or trade one of his records either. In simple terms there is no place for hate or this thread to continue on the MISFITS BIBLE. we are here to talk, Misfits Samhain Danzig and topics related to just that. Not to watch weeks of posts about Racism. Oh, also the bit about explaining the history of Skrewdriver, that is also cut and dry. you can make them look better cause they were not really racist when they started out. plus saying that the FIENDS that posted their responts to this is stupid or are fuck - ups. did it ever occur to you that they just did not want to hear this shit. Brett, yes i am sure i read it in wizard or something where they were talking about all the movies that were coming out. Also, just because Marvel is actively publishing does not mean they are not in finacial trouble. they are having major problems to the point that certain staff will be let go and their stock is at an all time low. if you can tell me that you have not seen some major changes from how good certain comics were to how poor some have gotten, than i have no idea what you have been looking at. example Wolverine, the artist they changed it to has made him look like he has tree stumps for legs and arms. the story line is not as good as it used to be. plus who do you thing is going to pay for the movies to be made? Usually it does not take 7 years to pick out actors for a movie. we are not talking Shakespeare here. Misfits 101... Just plain good advise... Well in light of some bad trading, i realized something that is important to point out to those who are just starting in this game. I made a stupid, though i will not get stuck with the record. When you are going to do a trade, make sure that it is settled and it is now down to who will send who what first. The last thing you ever want to do is get stuck with a record, cause at last minute the person who is trading with you pulls out or desides to be an ass. actually the better term is *GREEDY*. there is no room for that kind of crap in trade. That is also why i have such great disrespect for certain fiends that i have had the unfortunate pleasure to deal with. You take the time to lay out the deal and what each person wants out of the trade. plus make sure that what the other person wants is of equal value to what you want from them. No, giving an original Touch and Go 7", # 1 or #2 is not the same value as any of the regular Misfits 7". they are worth a Cough/Cool, a white vinyl Three hits, a hybrid LP and that is about it. That is why i have always pointed out that you need to know more than just the Misfits to collect. How to learn, Well if you get catalogs with rare punk and hardcore, save them as reference. I have several ads from different sources that have prices on these records. I have a lot on what Misfits stuff has sold for in the past 9 years. You know at one point a lot of records dropped in price, yet all PLAN9 vinyl stayed at the same prices. No one can screw you in a trade if you know your records. Plus, a lot of fiends say they have looked at their local record stores and found nothing. Its amazing how that one fiend from CA i have talk to is cleaning up over there. even if they just had some stuff and it sold. ask what it sold for, at least know what the prices are. if you know that the going price on a Cough/Cool was just quoted at $425 in Goldmine, then why the hell would you pay over that amount? that makes no sense at all. That's like putting up a sign, i'll pay anything, rape me off all my money. Also, talk to other fiends that have the records and find out what they paid for them or even traded for them. You need to be at the point that the only way you could even get screwed is the person was not honest in the first place and never sends you your record. Though don't let it be that you got screwed cause you did not know what you were doing in the first place. I have been told a lot from fiends off the bible, and have read posts or e-mails of reasons why they can't collect. Its all a bunch of Bullshit, there is no reason why one fiend on this list could not get him or herself an original 7", 12" or LP if they made the effort. Its not based on luck, its based on just plain knowing what to do, and doing it. well, next time i hope i have some Misfits vinyl sightings to offer up. plus the usual Misfits 101 info. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Sacrifice video responses to some stuff Re: Misfits Bible #302 (late) Skull and interview. Get Well Fiend Danzig in Wolverine Movie Metallica cassettes and Nazi Screwballs The Life of Riley Last 'ish Where's it gonna end? Jerry Only interview... Re: Misfits Bible #303 A little vinyl for the fiends... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 From: Misfits Bible Subject: This issue Hello Fiends. In order that the juno.com fiends be able to receive this issue, I was forced to break it into two parts. This wouldn't have had to happen if had to happen if the posts were MISFITS-oriented, but for whatever reason, there was a lot of unrelated stuff sent in this time. I've received a lot of complaints about the lack of appropriate content in the posts these last few issues. Please limit your other discussions to personal email. I personally don't care... I just skim through it. Some people don't want to see all this other stuff, so please keep them in mind. The 2 parts of the issue are broken down as follows: Part 1: Mostly Misfits related Part 2: Not Misfits related (except for one LONG article - the first post). Enjoy. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 23:26:20 -0500 From: Patricia Ragan Hoehner Subject: as regards the MB et alia Howdy, aS Hank Hill might well say.... Kids, I read Justin's post in the most recent issue of el Bible, and considered it thoughtful (i.e., full of thought). Way back in the day, I used to read the Misfits bible on the web page and found it silly, elitist etc. Then i read the web page that MSK had painstakingly put together and found a few glaring errors in which I had personal knowledge, from 1978 thru 1981 and then I got involved with the MB. Prior to this, I considered this forum to be what Justin suspected...I was really put off by the babyish tone. So I ignored it for a long time. And then Bobby started posting so I guess I had to.... and the rest is history. The fact is, the people who are key to and up close and personal to the Misfits just don't post anymore. Reason? it's just too embarrassing! Right,EVB CG and me? and even Mark? Even Bobby hardly posts anything anymore......... best, Patricia Ragan Denmom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:58:13 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Times Square The TIMES SQUARE CD, 'Learn it' is out. Buy it! I was *very* suprised when I got mine in the mail from Bobby on Friday. I've had the demo for almost a year now, the CD is the same eight songs but remixed or something definitely a first class production on the CD. Let's review for those that haven't been around... TIMES SQUARE is Bobby Steele's new band. This is a real NY Punk band, not bullshit horror shock rock like the Misfits or the Undead. This is real honest to gawd old-school punk in the vein of Blondie, the Ramones or the Heartbreakers. The band consists of: Dave Ari - Drums/vocals, formerly of the Devildogs & Sylvain Sylvain's Ugly Americans (If you don't know who Sylvain is then check out the NY Dolls) Jill "The Zion Lion" Matthews - Guitar/vocals - Golden Gloves Award Winner. Formerly of Space Jr., w/ Mick Roth who makes a guest appearence on this release. Bobby Steele - Bass/vocals, we all know what Bobby did prior to this. I'd have to say that D-Generation is probably the current 'premier' punk band from NYC. I know Bobby's been friends with Howie for 20 years but FUCK IT, Times Square blows D-Gen away. Times Square is fast power pop, the kind of stuff that put Punk music on the map. No bullshit themes about anarchy, Satan, Politics or B-movies here. Jill pens tunes about normal things that happen to a girl in NYC. For example... "What a guy," obviously about a guy that dumped a girl for someone else: "I took all your postcards and ripped them off the wall (lyrics reproduced without I saw you walking down the street the permission of Knockout and kicked you in the balls Music) I think I saw your girlfriend well, I punched her in the face 'cause I hate the both of you You're a fuckin' disgrace" Jill writes nearly all the lyrics on this record, and she's got a talent for it. It's nice to see Bobby put his ego aside for a bit and actually work in a team effort. I've said it before, I'll say it again; Bobby and Dave put forward one of the best rhythm sections I've heard in a long time. Dave is an incredibly tight drummer, but when paired with Bobby the team is unstoppable. Jill's guitar is reminiscent of Johnny Ramone's style, bar chords baby, just punctuate that rhythm. I guess that's what makes them so good, it's minimal. Fuck melody as far as the music goes, they create a driving rhythm all melody is supplied by the vocals, and this band's got three very capable vocalists. Punk style and punk length to boot, eight songs with a total running time of 21:44 gotta love it. Here's what Denmom had to say... Seems Bobbo has been holding out on us all this time too! He is credited with mixing the CD and it's just perfect. He's probably a great producer in the bud. (I can say this with semi-authority, since I saw the early misfits rehearse lotsa times and the sound was awful! of all of them--Bobby, Joey, Glenn and Jerry-- Bobby was the only one who wrinkled his nose at the quality of the recordings at the time) In addition, the excellent CG neglected to mention the fact (sensitive to the middle aged Denmama..) that Jill is one hot babe. Legs up to there, pretty face that ain't gone to hell, tough as shit.. who could ask for more in a punk rocking broad? Hard to beat! thank you baby, back to me... All in all it's the best thing I've heard come out of any band connected with the Misfits. Buy it, regardless of reason, it's got some nice pictures of Bobby in it, you'll be helping out a fellow Misfit DIYer, fuck who cares buy one just to shut that goddamn Bobby the fuck up, but buy one. This record reeks of the lower east side, positively fucking fourth street! The only thing I don't like about the album is that they fail to include their great showcloser, a cover of "Yummy, yummy, yummy." I'd like to express a thought I've had for some time now, I think Bobby's past experiences are holding him back today. It's alot like what Patricia had mentioned awhile back, the Misfits getting in so much trouble back in the day that respectable clubs refused to book them. The last time I saw Times Square was at the Continental, it's a great little club on 3rd Ave at St. Marks Pl. Times Square played that night to a packed room, there were other bands on the bill that night but Times Square literally blew them away. One band that night went on after TImes Square and it just wasn't the same, the place lost about half it's crowd once they started playing. I can't understand why Times Square isn't bigger than they are. I think the stigma of the Misfits connection haunts them, I also believe that Jill is the only one in the band whose heart is fully in it. Bobby believes (and most of you will side with him) that the Undead is the better band, he won't come out and say that, I believe I asked him that question and he responded something like; "it's like choosing between two children, you can't expect me to make that choice." I respect that answer, very diplomatic dodging. I listen to Times Square and it reminds me of everything that was great about punk rock in the early years, and I just can't understand what they are doing wrong. In any case buy the record it's well worth it. To put it in a current light, it's alot like Screeching Weasel. If you like SW you'll like Times Square. If you only like stuff like Misfits/Danzig/Undead & their ilk don't buy it, unless of course you like Bobby and wish to show your support. other shit.... At this point I'd like to mention People v. Larry Flynt. There ain't no fucking Misfits sightings... but I'd like to say that Courtney Love, as much of a stupid cunt she is in the music arena, can actually act. The movie is worth watching just to catch her performance. To "The Biased Black Duck" I'd like to first say to Justin that his post hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately I feel the need to add this, after which I shall never speak of it again except in private email. you need to sit back and chill. I like (excuse the un-PC remark) Black music. I dig Marley, I *really* dig funk, ask Jake Starr if you don't believe me, he's perused my record collection. For you to say that rap lyrics aren't anti-white is like saying the holocaust never happened. I believe the undisputed godfathers of rap would have to be The Last Poets, such fine offerings as "The white man's got a god complex." or "Whitey's on the moon." ie: "a rat bit my sister yesterday and whitey's on the moon grandma done lived on dog food and whitey's on the moon.." inflammatory? you be the judge... And that's not half as bad as White man's got a god complex (which btw is a favorite of mine) it's great to hear black guys go on and blame the white man for everyfuckingthing wrong with black america, from birth control to welfare. Know what the fuck yer tawkin bout before you open yer big mouth. C F'n G & Patricia somewhere in Florida 1997 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 08:58:04 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: 4 HITS FROM MARS >From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS >Subject: Mars Continued >"With all due respect to the bands on the "4 Hits From Mars" >EP, I'd like to remind everyone on the Bible of the many >bands that were not chosen for the project and how they all >deserve support and attention as well. And yes, I have heard >the bands on the EP and I think they are all good. Jake, >perhaps you could provide some info on those bands in >order for them to gain some notoriety. For starters, I would >like everyone to know about some bands that have been >mentioned on the Bible in the past. The Ninjas, The Astro >Zombies, Green Hell, 138, Morey Strauss' band (cant remember >what you guys are called), XZVampires, of course, my band, >Devilock and all the countless other bands who cover Fits >songs. I can provide info on most of these bands and how >you can obtain their music as well. So just e-mail me. And >of course, support the bands on "4 hits" too. Perhaps, if there >is enough interest, I could make a tape of all these bands and >and others that anyone would like to send me, and we'd have >a large number of cuts to listen to. Of course, it would sound >like crap on tape but what can ya do. What do you guys think? >Again, still support the "4 Hits From Mars," (I dont need any >flames from people who think I'm doggin' the EP.)" the noss makes a very good point, and i believe i gave props to all the bands who submitted tapes. this EP was compiled my me and me alone. i got about 35 tapes in the mail and had to choose which 4 songs i liked the most. it was all done by me and what i personally liked. i think all of the bands deserve credit and i wish i could have done a CD to include every song and every band, but i'm not jake starr trump. i would like to do a cassette of everything i received and will try to do that soon, but i'm devoting a lot of time and $$$ to my own band, ADAM WEST, right now. in fact, i can't believe i got the 4 HITS EP out by february 15! so, i will try to compile the cassette sometime soon. it'll be called "100 HITS FROM MARS"! :-) >From: Shaun Young >Subject: members tribute album? >"what is the deal with this? >our band does a couple of misfits tunes too. you name it. >anyway, i'll check to see what one we'll record for it, but we are >definetly UP for it! >lets do it! sounds like a lot of fun(well gore and blood and guts to of >course)" if you're referring to the 4 HITS FROM MARS 7" EP, it's already been done. sorry. >From: ChristoTer@aol.com >Subject: Stuff >"Jake Starr, didn't you mention something a while back about putting >together all of the 4 Hits submissions on a tape? I think that would be >kind of cool to hear." see reply to the noss' post above. >From: "Whittle, Patrick R." >Subject: 4 hits from mars is the bomberino >"It's well worth the 4 bucks. The ending song (138) done almost indus- >trial style by the Idiot Police is kinda cool. Whoever it was that did >Skulls were a lil TOO accurate in their version...Die Die was great..." thanks a lot! the bomberino... i gotta start using that one. oh, ripsnorter did the version of SKULLS. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 09:02:43 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST Gigs Saturday, March 8, 11 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Skelp Cadillac Club/Sheba Cafe 2224 18th Street, NW DC (202) 210-3530 CANCELED! club shut down live music! Wednesday, March 19, 10 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Betty Blue Black Cat 1831 14th Street, NW DC (202) 667-4527 Friday, March 28, 9:30 p.m. ADAM WEST w/Bucket, Montgomery Cliffs, Beltways Cafe Tattoo 4825 Belair Road in Northeast Baltimore (410) 325-7427 Pre-release party for FUZZY LOGIC compilation CD Friday, April 18, 9 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Godhead, Honeypole Black Cat 1831 14th Street, NW DC (202) 667-4527 Week of April 21-28 Washington Area Music Association Crosstown Jam ADAM WEST will be participating at a local DC club. more details to come. Friday, May 2, 10 p.m. ADAM WEST CBGBs 315 Bowery in NYC -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:27:05 -0500 From: "Jason St. Jacques" Subject: Look what I found!!!! Globe and Mail 2nd page Saturday March 1st, 1997 Canadian Free Press Calgary A series of unsolved murders from the late 80's have been brought back to police attention. A cult, of 16, was found dead outside city limits in their compound called "Devil's Whorehouse." The cult, who reportedly worshiped the number 138, had a fixation with a punk group known as the Misfits, who were lead by metal singer Glenn Danzig from 1977-1983. Though not certain, police speculate that the cult was responsible for several murders in Alberta from 1985-1988 involving song lyrics from Misfits songs. RCMP chief Arnold Kipner said in a press conference on Friday, that the cult members "committed suicide by stabbing themselves 138 times, and bled to death." J. ------------------------------ From: she@udel.edu Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:06:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: glenn's pretty hair > Speaking of Glenn's hair, the guy's over forty, I wonder if he >dyes it? OF COURSE HE DOES. Althougth I don't know if it's cause he's going gray (he probably is though, he's losing his hair!). I think it's just cause he thinks black is no 1. he he he Leah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:12:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel J. Jakel" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #303 To the guy talking about Agnostic Front, didn't they quit and reformed as Madball with new members or something? Madball opened for The Misfits when they came to Grand Rapids last summer, and weren't very well liked by the crowd. There were like 5 guys trying to mosh and shouting the lyrics, but everyone else wanted to see the main act. --Dan the Devil Man-- ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:11:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: American Nightmare If this has been posted then, oh well. Anyway, I was looking at the booklet of the "Private Parts" soundtrack and noticed that Tommy Victor, formerly of Prong and currently of Danzig, played guitar on the Rob Zombie/Howard Stern song "The Great American Nightmare". At the premiere last Thursday night at MSG, I think Tommy even played live with Rob Zombie and Howard when they did the song. Eventhough all the bandmembers were wearing zombie masks, I could tell it was Tommy because of the Prong stickers on his guitar and the way he played his guitar while it hung almost down to his knees. I guess Danzig had a night off that night or Tommy just decided to take a trip anyway. Anyway, that's it ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: gg0u50a4@liverpool.ac.uk Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 16:34:05 +0000 Subject: european tour This is concerning the forthcoming tour. I have been trying to get tickets for the last show of the tour, 21 May at the LA2 (which is the Astoria 2) in London England, as this is the only night I can attend. I am going on a field trip when the other shows are on. I have phoned the Astoria and they only have info/tickets for the 15 April show at the Garage. If anyone can help me, or knows of when the info/tickets for the above show will become available, please mail me. Thanx. C-ya, Aaron. Aaron Ellis gg0u50a4@liverpool.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:01:46 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: things [nazis] yawn. [undead] if any of you do not have DAWN OF THE UNDEAD yet, get it. it rocks. a new favorite, it resides next to the ol' CD player. [guitar world] Tracii Guns says at one point in his career "rather played guitar for Danzig or Motorhead." woohoo!! Nina Gordon/Veruca Salt calls Marilyn Manson a put-on show, "almost a vaudeville act." you go, girl! =) [16] i ask if any of you have information on this band (esp. regional publications outside of LA) to email me. please. thanks. [mark] the man. not just any man. the man. [tab] as usual, send the shit over to me or mark. cheers ryq@aero.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 18:28:49 -0800 From: Grandpa Atomic Subject: ... Final word on Skrewdriver: Beowulf, at least, has some nuts to support what he believes in, on the other hand, just by reading what he wrote and visiting his home page you see the hypocrisy they use to justify to people their beliefs...to people who said I was censoring people, only a fucking moron would confuse free speech with the ability to preach hate. So, anyway, erase the hate...you can hate people logically for their personal actions, but not because of skin pigments. As Drop Dead once said, "Only a fool would die for his country / only a fool would die for a flag." But being proud of your country is okay...hating people not from it is another. And Beowulf...I'm not a communist, but I'd rather be one of them than a fascist. This is my final bible comment on racism: black racism is REactive, not PROactive. That does not make it better, but I find it hilarious people can be so STUPID as to not be able to comprehend why black people are so angry. CJ...there are lots of anti-white rap lyrics. There are also lots of "anti-black" black rap lyrics. Racism goes both ways. Now...onto other topics. No more racism talk. I'm winded. Bobby - Didn't know you fanangled the Devil Dogs drummer into your band! Good work! Hey, talk to me about finding members for the Undead...I can help you out, maybe. Tammy rules. That's all I have to say. As for Glenn...whether he was rumored to play Logan or not, Wizard has so much friggin' ridiculous "Hot News" that never actually comes about, it's ridiculous. As for Glenn saying he was offered the part, maybe he was, but there's a lot more to making a movie than that! I think Glenn has too nice a voice to be Logan, but he's certainly about the right height, and he's pretty pist. Who'd be Sabretooth? Violent World...the record store I'm at ordered the records for so much they have to sell them for $10.99 to make a profit! Oh yeah, that's DIY! Punk punk punk. Jake, I have to e-mail you about ordering five or six 4 Hits wholesale...possible? On the subject of other bands with great horror lyrics...anyone hear heard El Dopa? They've been on two or three comps and their EP "Skinless" is on Prank...they have some crazy dark lyrics, razor blades in halloween candy or whatever. The new Misfits...well, it appears we'll be talking bullshit until May waiting for that goddamned album to come out! It'll be the first major label vinyl I've bought in years. Well, Jerry has said 1997 is the year of the Misfits, but if I see some special on "70's Punk" on MTV I'm going to deep throat a can of battery acid. Am I the only one here who doesn't like "alternative" and corporate hardcore? As for more cool real-life-esque (what a cool term!) horror...most everybody's probably heard of it, but a comic I can hardly go without every month is Preacher. It's some great reading...maybe the Misfits can write a song about it! I especially liked the Seattle grunge mosh pit in the Story of Arseface. Hee hee! There's a song for ya. And that letter that opened up Bible #303...hee hee, dude, you totally had me laughing for about ten minutes. I really appreciated that. I needed a laugh. "I've seen fly-by-nights come and go with fly-by-night topics." Whatever you wrote, I don't even remember, I was chuckling too hard. Age and time around doesn't matter! Ideas and actions do! But keep up the comedy, one could use it in these dark ages. And to Mark, much congratulations on finding a web page. Would anyone else think it would be really cool if everyone chipped in some money, and they made a special new Misfits Live record EP for the Bible? Wouldn't that be awesome? If the Misfits still had any punk left in 'em, they might do it. Someone should ask. Keepin' it real, speakin' his mind, GRAMPS - The Man From Nowhere "You're really saving the world / with your 90-item want list / How many animals died / just to glue your covers / How much you want for that Confuse flexi anyway?" - Spazz, "4 Times a Day" ------------------------------ From: Astrozomby@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:34:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: just a silly idea? ok, this is my very first post ever. i've only recently gotten on the bible, thanks to some kid named danny. yay for danny!!!! anyways, me and a friend have recently thought of a silly idea that i would like to get some input on. many of you, i'm sure will think i'm dumb, or wasted time and space, so sorry about that now, before you all crack on me. ok, so, here's the idea: i'm thinking a prom type 'o movie, except instead of like the usual "You Look Wonderful Tonight" prom song and such, have like "Last Caress" as the prom song. basically, an all around MISFITS theme prom. i know my prom was crappy and i'm sure others out there's prom was dumb too. so, why not have a real rad prom being MISFITS'ed out and record it on tape basically? i know you're probably thinking this is real stupid, if you haven't already scrolled on through. but please give the thought a little chance. it kind of came to mind of having like goats heads as decoration instead of balloons or like headstones on every table as the centerpiece with like some rad MISFITS quote printed on it. just lots of real silly MISFITS related stuff everywhere as decoration and an all out MISFITS songs only type 'o thing. with like, vampira as the prom queen and the crimson ghost as the prom king. maybe we could be lucky enough to make it in the gym of lodi high school, i doubt the luck, but you never know. now, don't you all wish your prom was rad with MISFITS stuff everywhere? it'd be a real cheesy movie and all, but that's kinda the point. like it'd be something related to the MISFITS in itself being cheesy, after all, a majority of the movies in which MISFITS songs were written each were cheesy in their own little ways, you know what i mean? anyways, a lot of thought has been given into this and a lot more thought is still yet neccesary, and if anyone else has any more ideas to add. it'd be real rad of yous!!!! i know that to make this film if it was really wanted to be made would neccesitate much help from fellow fiends like yourselves. i know i would really enjoy putting this into production. so please, anyone with any thought and help on the idea in itself, please respond. please, it would be greatly appreciated. thanks all. amy ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:32:22 -0500 I seen everyone saying their dream bands here, so I'd say mine also. If I had to pick a dream band, of course, it'd be THE MISFITS, then, now, forever. But if I had to pick an alternate I'd pick: drums - dude from Burn. I don't know which one of the four that were in the group played drums (either alex napack, gavin vanvlack, chaka malik, or alan peter cage, which I don't think it's chaka because he went on to sing in Orange 9mm) bass - markus grosskopf from Helloween singers - I'd have two.. Colleen Fitzpatrick from Eve's Plum for the "pretty or lighter" side and whoever sings in Voodoo Glow Skulls, because his voice is cool. the rest I'll figure out some other time. Sean ------------------------------ From: DAVID TESTA Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:23:17 +0000 Subject: metallica tape for sale, correction Hello again, I stand corrected. Apparantly what I have for sale is not a Metallica demo but rather a very rare ep. As mentioned by Mark in the last bible, the casset has tracks that are not on the vinyl and is one of the scarcest metallica items (more rare than the vinyl version as well) . So once again if your interested in the "Whiplash" tape, e-mail your offers to me. If the frcs566@stumail.frc.mass.edu address doesn't work(I've had trouble in the past) try me at gimp@tiac.net thanks again for the correction, Dave T. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:19:37 -0800 (PST) From: bill avery Subject: last gasp(auction) Well loyal Fiends, this is the last update before the March 7th deadline so hurry up and get your bids and final trade ideas in before noon (estrn time) on Friday.Once again i would like to thank all of you.later, bill avery sardonica@hotmail.com Misfit 12": EAD plan9 $31 EAD purple wax $92 LOB white wax $ 125 Flipside W/insert signed by Glenn $41 WAU 1st press signed by Glenn, Jerry, And Doyle $177 WAU 2nd press signed by Jerry and Doyle $75 Samhain 12": Season of the Dead w/tour poster $42 Unholy passion (maroon cover) $50 Misfit 7": NOTLD w/out insert $125 Cough/Cool $510 Who Killed on blk $81 Misc items: Danzig 1 promo signed by Glenn $52 Rollins Band EOS signed by Henry $36 promo poster for IN MY HEAD $23 Fiend Club poster $31 Danzig 3 box set $48 --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:29:21 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: members tribute album heool, can me and my band play on the members tribute album? we know how to play rock-and-roll guitars and drums. we got lots of hot licks and loads of blazing riffs. i'd like to do a poison song. is that aloud? -styveixx- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Steve Warren swarren@beothuk.swgc.mun.ca | | Department of Janitorial Studies / Sir Wilfred Grenfell College | | Corner Brook, Newfoundland Canada | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue Mar 4 02:37:35 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: the bible tribute 'n the iron cross. bible tribute- that would be cool. my band will definately be up for it though we're more of a hardcore meets protopunk band but fuck it. and far as the Iron Cross goes, it's not a nazi symbol. It's a german military award given out at least since the beginning of this century (i think it dates back to the mid-1800's but i cant recall). it's basically the same type of award as the silver star or gold star (something like that) in american military. --- allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ From: chris besaw Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:38:47 -0700 Subject: looking for Vinyl I was wondering if anyone out there has a copy of NOTLD and 3Hits 7" for sale at a reasonable price.If so please contact me at deadboy@wwdg.com.If not maybe someone could help me find these items.THANKX Deadboy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 03:43:06 -0500 From: aaron stillbirth Subject: fuckin 4 hits 4 HITS TRIBUTE god damn jake! you and your dc crew can really throw a kick ass tribute togetrher. and the vinyl color is just tho fancy. to all the fiends who dont have this, what are you waiting for? its only 4 bucks...postage paid, where the hell else can you get a cool color vinyl 7" that cheap? support the bands on the bible...they do it to pay homage to the misfits, not for some quick attention or the cash. its better than most of violent world. its just better in general. the bands own renditions rule. they keep the same simple style the misfits used. support fandango records...jake is a good guy. and he may even smoke your pole if you buy one ;). get yo fo bucks out to jake asap...it wont be around for long, its cheap, and it was recorded for the bible fiends exclusively. so why not support someone does does something for you? save your $12 from violent world, and get 4 hits from mars. you wont be sorry. jake guarantees it. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 16:50:10 -0500 From: "Umberto D'Urso" Subject: Wolfsblood/Earth A.D. Alternate cover I recently purchased the Wolfsblood/Earth A.D. album which has a different cover than the traditional cover. Basically the entire front cover is shaded in green as opposed to the traditional orange, and the back cover is colored differently also. There is no mention of this in the discography. The guy I purchased it from in Germany, says he has never seen another like it, and neither have I. Any help on this album...rarity, pressings.. etc. would be appreciated. -Umberto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:01:16 +0100 (GMT) From: When I Sin Sighting? -------- Well i was watching tv the other day,and they were talking about that new film with Michael Douglas (some shit about lions that are eating people).Anyway,after the clip camera goes back to studio and one lady starts to talk about some african tribe (Masai or something like that)."They have a very strong cult of body" she says "and they paint their faces for special occasions".Then she shows one photograph,and guess what - there were three Jerry Onlys on that photo.Yea,those guys had their face painted exactly the same way like Jerry and they had huge misfitslike devilocks.And boy were they big and full of muscles...I red once something about it on central but this was still too surprising for me not to post it .... BIBLENOISE ---------- This one is for those that are not ill tempered.Bible is now too hard to read especialy when you have to catch up with several issues.Some people on it already make big and easy to spot headers and i think it is really cool 'cos i can skip easily debates that i have no interest in.So i would personaly be very gratefull to everyone who don't put 2 or 3 themes in one paragraph especialy if it has any info. and i hope you will not flame me for my english ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:06:14 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: glen's mom hey feaneds, does glen have a mom? what's she like? is she a cool mom or like a total bummer mom? maybe glen doesn't have a mom. maybe glen is a clone or maybe he has several dads, like in that movie "twins". that was a good movie. if glen is a clone, who was the first glen? does he have a mom? i wonder what she is like. -steve- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 18:48:28 -0800 From: tom Subject: violent world I just bought this CD a couple of days ago and it has kicked ass from start to finish for maybe 50 plays. It's all I've listened to (except for tool's opiate). I think that the bands all did a very good job covering and putting their own sort of style into it (especially Tanner, SOIA, Pharsyde and Earth Crisis). There is only 1 song on it that just stinks, and it is NOFX's Last Caress. Whoever said it sounds like fat mike or whoever the singer is sounds like he's mocking glen's voice at the end is right. It is a shitty rendition. My band does it better half drunk. Another thing: If anyone wants some info on Chuck Biscuit's career in DOA, there is a page on DOA's history. I goes on about where he lived (a few blocks from where I live now!), how old he was when he joined, and some of the other bands he was in. It also mentions a time when DOA went to Toronto and played with the misfits. this is joey shithead's comment about it (from memory, so it's not too accurate): "the misifts just wanted to come up to canada and play a show. so they just sort of showed up and played, and we opened for them. They kind of sucked, but the other band was the best band in toronto, and they ruled. Of course WE kicked ass." Don't quote me on that. If you want to check the page out, I forget the adress, just do a search for: DOA and Music West (or MusicWest, i'm not sure) the story is pages and pages long .i've been picking at it for weeks, and i'm still at like '86. it goes from when DOA were the Skulls (1975 or so) to present. later tom spence ------------------------------ Date: 04 Mar 97 21:29:49 EST From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Misfits sighting Just in case everyone doesn't already know....There is a cool pic of Jerry reading Thrasher in the new issue of Thrasher. Great full page full color photo. Paul Holstein ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:10:17 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: London May update, and a mystery solved... Besides Dag Nasty, Distorted Pony, and samhain of course, London May also played with the Rainbow Girls. He's now with the Amazing Chan Clan. A mystery solved - I talked to many fiends who attended different shows during the MiSFiTS resurrection tour. Most of them said that Jerry took a break to stage dive, while the rest of the members continued to play. A mysterious figure emerged to fill in at bass, with a black robe on and a Crimson Ghost mask. I also witnessed this. I finally found out who it was... Scott Ian, from Anthrax. I learned this by recently talking to a girl-fiend who went back stage that night. Did anybody else see this, or hear about that? -Tim ------------------------------ From: ahren@thesea.com Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 22:49:10 -0800 Subject: Sacrifice video Well, I finally got to see the video for "Sacrifice". It was actually pretty good. But who is playing guitar? I don't think it was Tommy Victor, but it looked kinda like him. I dunno...maybe I just didn't recognize him 'cuz he was wearing all black. Does anyone here know if that was him or not? "stick with me, I'll make you a repo wife..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:42:31 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: responses to some stuff > From: Jon Riley > the song myself B: now I might be mistaken but I also tend to see Danzig using > symbols of the NSDAP such as the Iron Cross throught out his career C: and I think I have personally made about 100 posts about this in the past. I'll keep it simple this time. The Iron Cross was around long before National Socialism. It is a German symbol, not necessarily a Nazi one. Glenn is also, incidentally, part German by descent. As for him possibly holding Nazi beliefs: 1. he frequently denies holding racist beliefs, and associates with what Nazis would consider "non-Aryan" people: Joey Castillo, Josh Lazie, Go Nagai, Duke Mighten, the late Willie Dixon...etc 2. contrary to popular belief, there is more to Nazism than racial theory. First and foremost, Nazism is a totalitarian system of government. Anyone who has read any of Glenn's interviews or seen his comic books knows what he thinks of fascism, censorship, government interevention, government control, and government, period. > maybe it is yet another coincidence that his stage name Danzig in reality is > the name of a city that was forcibly taken from the great nation of Deutschland > after WWI, and then later this city became one of if not the most important again: name: German. Not Nazi. > nation of Deutschland yes that is right contrary to popular belief WWII was > started when Britain had declared war on Deutschland technically, what you just said was true, sure, but you're assuming that Germany is allowed to go and conquer whoever it wants, (in this case Poland) but anyone who THEN demands they withdraw, and when Germany refuses, who THEN tries to retaliate, is *starting* a war. sure. So if I break your legs and then tell your friends "I don't want to fight anyone," they would have no business in stopping me or retaliating. Sounds fine to me. Where do you live again? > their senseless murders of Palestinians that they have perpetrated over the > past few centuries let me ask you how the attempted genocide of the Palestinian > perpetrated by the jews is any worse then the holocaust was The Palestinians are innocent of murder then? The above is so ignorant and one-sided...no, I'm not even going to explain why. What you wrote is just completely ridiculous. > From: nick winkleback > Subject: Glenn's Chops > This may be a pathetic subject, but I think it might be more > interesting than the whole Nazi thing. Did anyone notice Glenn seems to > have shaved his Wolverine-like sideburns? Does anyone have any thougths he trimmed them in 1994, so that they weren't long, but still covered the same area of his cheeks. Then he started to grow them long again, but not as long as they used to be. Then in September 1996 he had partially shaved them off, so that they did not extend to the bottom of his cheeks. Then in February of 1997, they were completely unshaven, but still pretty short. That is why they are not as noticeable as they used to be. Somehow he got his to not go all bushy when they got long, a technique I was never able to master. > Speaking of Glenn's hair, the guy's over forty, I wonder if he > dyes it? his roots are visibly brown in the first Danzig home video, when he is signing autographs in parking lot and his hair is wet. Plus you can tell that in some photos his hair is much blacker (ie: recently-dyed) than it is at other times. > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) > Brett, yes i am sure i read it in wizard or something where they were > talking about all the movies that were coming out. Also, just because choke! most of those movies have been "in development" or "pre-production" (or some other bullshit Hollywood word) since the mid 1980s. > that you have not seen some major changes from how good certain comics were > to how poor some have gotten, than i have no idea what you have been hee hee, except I hold the opinion that 110% of Marvel output has been crap since around 1990 or so. (okay, there has been some good stuff...) > looking at. example Wolverine, the artist they changed it to has made him > look like he has tree stumps for legs and arms. the story line is not as plus he has no nose. > good as it used to be. plus who do you thing is going to pay for the > movies to be made? Usually it does not take 7 years to pick out actors for > a movie. we are not talking Shakespeare here. yeah, I know, I see your point. Although most of the problems with the Marvel movies has little to do with their current financial problems -- simply because the movie-problems have been going on for years, as you said. With Spider-Man, it was the original movie company (Carolco?) who went out of business, then, when they got back on their feet, they claimed they still owned the production rights, resulting in a battle between them and the current company who holds the rights (I forget who) over who gets to make the movie. Of course as a fan of the Spider-Man comics I will probably be waiting all this time for nothing, because in the movie they will change his origin so much that I will hate it. Comic-movies always disappoint me. -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:43:11 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #302 (late) > From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) > FYI ex- DEVIL DOGS drummer, DAVE ARI is now playing in TIMES SQUARE. > Their song, ROCK CITY U.S.A. sounds suspiciously like SPOOK CITY U.S.A., > but this is really a coincidence since they couldn't have heard SPOOK > CITY at the time they wrote it, yet the similarity IS uncanny. When did they write it? Don't forget that the song "Spook City, USA" was originally released in 1981, even though it was not the original Misfits version -- which you obviously know since you played on it. > From: m.s.k. > shirts that Glenn obviously had no control over. I have never understood > why he couldn't have just mailed him the letter, or called him up. I heard or read that Glenn's bodyguards would not allow Giger's lawyers to approach Glenn with the papers -- the rumour/theory seemed to be that if they could keep Glenn out of reach forever, then he could never be served with notice of the lawsut, and therefore never have to pay. It doesn't sound a plan that would hold up in court though. > From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com > Subject: Danzig Promo CD for sale this isn't a promo is it Mark? I always thought it was just a regular cd-single, because it doesn't say "promo" and it is/was widely available for sale in stores. Although I haven't seen one in a few years... -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:12:39 -0500 From: Scott Perry Subject: Skull and interview. Does anyone elsethink that the new Danzig skull looks like a Rorschach design? Also for Steve Gorny: When are you going to post that interview you did with Danzig? I've been waiting for that for a while now. Thanks once again Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 13:18:38 +0500 From: "John B. Kendrick" Subject: Get Well Fiend Fiends, One of our bible subscribers, John Smarsh, has recently had some surgery. I think it would be cool if some of us fiends would send him an e-mail get well message. If you want to do so, his addy is: magnus@en.com JB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:21:21 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Danzig in Wolverine Movie Okay, finally a subject that's worth talking about. I dunno shit about guitar tabs, I don't have a record player so I don't need a 7"... I dunno shit about Skrewdriver... HEY EVERYBODY!!! SKREWDRIVER SKREWDRIVER SKREWDRIVER!!! ... but one subject I do know something about is COMIC BOOKS!! God damn it... As far as WIZARD running an article with the casting for a Wolverine movie, don't let that get your hopes up. They do that ALL THE TIME, with just about every comic book around. What they do, is the staff of WIZARD gets together and takes people's picks on who should play what character. So it'll be like, "Hmmm, Professor X -- he's bald, so we exhume Yul Brynner's body..." What they say not only has no bearing on the actual casting of a movie -- it also doesn't even mean a movie is being made!! They just do it for fanboy thrills. I can't even find anywhere that will confirm a Wolverine movie is actually being made, so it seems unlikely that they're at the casting phase of the film already. But it may happen! Glenn may be the man! I just don't think so. As far as Marvel's bankruptcy affecting the quality of the comics they produce, nah... doesn't have anything to do with it. The bankruptcy is strictly from Wall Street/financial type of stuff, and it hasn't even impacted their publishing schedule. The reason their comics are trash is because everyone has spent the last 7 years or so trying to imitate McFarlane, Lee, Liefeld etc... and then imitating the imitators. The originals split and all you have left are the talentless carbon-copies. If you've been reading comics as long as I have, you'll see this stuff goes in cycles. The last time Marvel's art went to shit was in the early 80's, around the time of the first "Secret Wars". Jim Shooter alienated half their good talent. Someone may come along to work for Marvel who has some real talent yet; but I bet THIS TIME, it won't happen until Marvel significantly changes its contract terms with creative talent. For the record, none of your favorite artist/writers have left Marvel because they were FIRED... it doesn't work that way. All creative talent at Marvel is freelance, contracted work-for-hire, unless you're talking about an editor who also writes a few books. The good artists left because they can get better terms elsewhere (Image for example, but many other place as well. Even DC has given out some revolutionary deals to select people, like Chris Claremont.) They can work on better product, too... if you're a great artist, and you KNOW the book you're working on is cookie-cutter crap, you're gonna leave sooner or later. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S ALL OFF-TOPIC BUT AT LEAST IT'S NICE (and you know what your momma told you about saying stuff). E-Mail me if you wanna talk comic books. NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 10:18:55 -0500 From: "Jason St. Jacques" I'd like to invite all of you to join the Disgruntled Postal Workers Union. DPW (my band), have been playing our own version of punk/metal for two years now throughout southern Ontario, and plan on touring soon after the end of the semester. You can be among the lucky few who help us set up a show in your hometown! Membership lets you in on all the juicy gossip that I know you're dying to hear. Also, you'll be the first to know when our first full length album, Diddler on the Roof, will come out. (SOON)! So for those of you who want some extra spice in your life, who like punk and/or metal, like songs about nothing, or just want to waste extra k's in your e-mail system: e-mail me your address and ask/beg to be on the mailing list. In case you're wondering, we sound like: The Misfits being shat out Leonard Cohen's Fudge Tunnel, into a Helmet full of Black Flag. Cheers J. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:26:04 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Wilson Subject: Metallica cassettes and Nazi Skrewballs Mark, do you have any idea of what a copy of the "Jump in the Fire" cassette goes for? I had no idea they were rare, and I'd be willing to trade mine for something, if anyone is interested ... Secondly, all these non-Misfits related issues that come up on the Bible die out pretty quickly. I don't know why people get so upset and waste time complaining about them -- the complaints go on longer than the original arguments sometimes! And besides: The Nazi viewpoint deserves to be heard -- all views should have an equal chance to be laughed at. ------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:10:22 -0330 (NST) From: "Neil T. White" Subject: The Life of Riley To Jon Riley: The Iron Cross is not an Nazi symbol. It was used long before Hitler got kicked out of art school and threw his big temper tantrum. If you want me to look up its earliest use I can do that for you, but you're definately wrong about that. I've never seen Danzig wear an swastica either. Maybe you can send me a photo. My personal belief about the name Danzig is that Glenn took it because it sounded all gothic and shit, and because it may have offended some people (kinda like the way English punks wore inverted swasticas...they weren't Nazis were they?). I think some people read into this a little bit too much. I don't think Danzig is racist, and I don't think that his lyrics advocate racist beliefs. National-Socialist is a contradiction that was used by the Nazis to gain support from the left and right wing. They were reactionary-conservatives, not socialist in any sense of the word, nor did they employ any socialist policies whatsoever. A socialist can not be a nationalist because socialism cannot exist within one country, if Nazis truly meant to be socialist then they would have skimmed over any work by Karl Marx, and would have found this to be socialist doctrine. (Don't even get started on the so-called Communist countries of the world, that's a different thread altogether. However, I would be more than happy to discuss that subject privately.) Finally, the best peice of evidence that shows that Nazis aren't in any way socialist is the fact that they intentionally burned the Reichstag and blamed it on the socialists in order to kill them all. (Kristalnacht) About the Jews in Palestine. I would never defend mass genocide by saying that if other people do it then its alright. "Hitler shot himself in the head, why haven't the rest of the Nazis done it?" However, I wouldn't really call what the Jews are doing to the Paletinians "genocide". The Middle Eastern countries have been ganging up on Israel since its inception and they've been fighting for their survival. Palestinians are also responsible for several deaths too, remember. However, its a little more complex than saying that Jews are indiscriminantly murdering Moslems. If anyone would like to have a debate about this I would be more than happy to talk about it. I think I've exposed several misconceptions. And by the way, Skrewdriver is not in any way indicative of the Oi! movement in England in the late 70's and early 80's. I'm sure that like most people, the other Oi! bands thought that SD was a big joke. After all, the only people who actually believe that crap are pre-pubecsent white-trash who find it easier to destroy than to build anything. Fight the Real Enemy! -Combat 84 Power To The People!!! ------------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 15:47:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" "What kind of country is this where I can't hate a man unless he's white?" --Hank Hill D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca Check out the official Six Sins Left homepage at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ or #SixSinsLeft on IRC. "When I look at an ant's shiny black eyes I see the face of God." --Six Sins Left ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:27:37 -0500 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Last 'ish >I shitcanned my Ted Nugent and Metallica records when I found out what racist >assholes Nugent and James Hetfield were OK, I've heard charges against the Nuge before. Some of the comments he made about Arabs around the time of the Gulf War were pretty bad as I remember. But, What did Hetfield say that pissed you off? >MILWAUKEE METAL FEST---THE RETURN OF S O D!!!!!!!!!!!! That is so cool! Is there a topur in the works? Does anyone know where on the net there's info on SOD? The two sites listed on UBL are both down. ------------------------------ From: Beowulf@excaliber.com Date: 4 Mar 1997 23:39:28 EDT Subject: Where's it gonna end? OK this is the last time I'm gonna continue with this kookiness. Like many of you out there (racist and non-racist), I tire of reading posts having nothing at all to do with the Misfits. Thankfully Justin Deming summed up everything perfectly with his post (uh oh I just agreed with Justin so he must be an evil baby eating flower stomping Nazi!!! sorry Justin). Just a few opinions and I'll be on my way. >Angelic Upstarts, Sham 69, Last Resort, The 4skins, The Oppressed, The >Blitz, among others. Yes there is a such thing as left-wing nationalism. Sham was leftist, but they were also middle class students and eventually were rejected by the Sham Army (which was 90% racist) which made them so popular. The Oppressed are commie fucks so fine you get that one, but don't tarnish the good right wing names of the Last Resort and the 4 Skins, both of which had members active in the British Movement. Roi Pearce (my personal singing idol) was in the Sham Army and spoke out against them vehemently when they started playing anti-racism rallies. >Though they themselves are not >part a WP band by any means, their shows, similair to alot of punk shows >(and your people who have seen Sham 69 back in the day know this) seem to >attract a large WP element. Since NJ has the largest neo-nazi skin >population in the nation, expect things to be rough. Just put this here to back up what I was saying about the Sham Army. But yeah I'll probably be at the AF show too. About the "don't buy music unless you agree with them" thing, fuck that! I buy music because it sounds good. If the lyrics can speak for me then that's all the better, but I own many albums that aren't racist. Truly non-political bands (of which there are very few) make some great music, as the Misfits can certainly attest to. Hell I even like a couple of Oppressed songs and most of the stuff from Op Ivy. So tell me again who's the close minded one here? And about the 600 posts made by the Righteous One last issue... Well I think he's put his foot in his mouth enough times by now that I don't have to make him look silly anymore. The point I'm trying to make is that if you don't want us to post our "nazi" views then don't post your commie ones! I expect to see information relevant to the Misfits. Sure this isn't the "Skrewdriver Bible", I fully understand that. But it's also not the "Righteous Black Dick's 20 Stupid Posts Per Issue On The Evils Of Racialism And The Glory Of TLC And All Things Black Bible" either. I am glad that my posts have caused people to email me and question things, keep em coming I like intelligent dialogue. And to Stephen Gorny, sorry 'bout that. Seems I made a mistake. Anthony Plunder beowulf@excaliber.com Plunder & Pillage - THE site for Oi! Punk and RAC http://www.excaliber.com/thor/home.htm Ian Stuart/Skrewdriver site: http://www.excaliber.com/thor/ian.htm "The only thing I like integrated is my coffee." Malcom X ------------------------------ From: OowahX2@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:49:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jerry Only interview... I found this on Heckler Magazine's web page. It's more interesting than the past few issues of the bible have been... The Resurrected Misfits Walk Among Us Again by Erik Smollin Legacy of Brutality Bursting onto the punk rock scene in '77 were the Misfits, a brooding dark band with comic book-like appearances and antics driven by sincere DIY attitudes and aesthetics that everyone either admired, envied, or copied. The name was taken from an old Marilyn Monroe movie and their look is one of the most unique images in rock history, four guys, all pale and muscular, with thick eye make up shrouded by long black bangs, and always dressed in black leather. Their image, borrowed from B-Horror movies, has earned them genre titles such as "horror rock", "monster rock", and even "death rock". Their infamous logo, the Crimson Ghost was spray painted or silk screened on everything ensuring that this menacing symbol followed the band everywhere. The founding Misfits were: Glenn Danzig vocals and electric piano, Jerry Caifa on bass, and Manny on drums. The band's line up went through many changes over their six year history. Jerry's younger brother, P.C. Doyle, had been hanging around the band early on in its history and was being groomed by Jerry to become a Misfit. While Doyle was still in high school, on a very memorable Halloween night, Jerry axed their old axe-man and Doyle entered the legacy. Doyle played for his first time on stage at the Irving Plaza amongst severed bloody lamb heads, coffins, and masses of cobwebs. The band toured and recorded together from 1977 to 1983. The Misfits recorded on Caroline Records, Ruby Records and Danzigs own label Plan 9. They left behind a series of highly collectable 7 and 12 inch vinyls. Beware the live album, Evilive, the influential Earth A.D. and don't forget the classic Walk Among Us. After their demise in '83, unreleased classics began to surface, Legacy of Brutality, Die, Die My Darling, and the Misfits Collection I and II. Re-issues and bootlegs have crept into record stores world wide. Bands like White Zombie, Metallica, Guns and Roses, and Henry Rollins himself, who sports a Misfits tattoo, have all cited the Misfits as "influences". Over a decade after Danzig left the band, the Misfits have continued to sell well over 3 million records, including bootlegs, and even triple that in merchandise. The Misfits helped proudly spawn what is now heralded as the "punk rock" or DIY spirit. They wrote their own songs, released their own records, right down to cutting and gluing the seven inch sleeves together themselves and booking their own gigs. While on tour the band would bring along silk screens of there logos and artwork. They had no problem letting their fans lay down their leather jackets while the band printed the Crimson Ghost all over it. The band members have always prided themselves as being highly accessible, down to earth, and friendly, often taking the time to hang out with fans before, during, and after shows. Their generosity even went as far as giving away free merchandise; records, stickers, and even skateboards. They have also created one of the most loyal following of die hard fans in music, affectionately know as the Misfits Fiend Club. Die, Die My Darling After six years, eight seven-inch records, two twelve-inch records, and ten full lengths, Danzig decided that it was time to move on. He and Jerry were moving further apart and he realized that the Misfits would never be the same if either one of them had left. After many years of touring around the country in a small van, weathering snow storms, break-downs, accidents, and Mad Max road wars, music and personal differences had taken their toll. Sadly in 1983 the Misfits died. Walk Among Us Approaching their 20th anniversary, the Misfits are back and they have just finished headlining their Resurrection Tour which had them playing sold-out venues across the nation as well as Europe in support of their new coffin box set. The box set is the most complete set of Misfits recordings to date featuring over 100 songs, a Misfits Fiend Club pin, discography, lyrics, and liner notes written by Eerie Von. Live, Misfits fans can enjoy their old favorites as well as some new material. They are currently in the studio working on a new album due out in the spring. The original lineup has changed again, with the addition of Dr. Chud on drums and a new singer named Michale Graves. At only 21, Michale has already proven himself a worthy singer to their legion of fans. He also claims to have never even hearing of the Misfits before joining. And off course Jerry, the founding member of the Misfits, is back on bass along with his little brother Doyle. After an unforgettable two hour show at the Fillmore in San Francisco, filled with chaos and energy, I had an opportunity to speak with Jerry, who goes by the moniker Jerry Only. Eirk: You guys formed back in `77 and ended in `83, what happened to cause the break up? Jerry: We had a lot of problems with personnel, like drummers as you know. One day Robo just up and left and we had no drummer at all. Me and Glenn had a falling out over the problem of who was going to be the drummer. It seemed to me that the guy who he chose just couldn't do the job and he chose him for all the wrong reasons. Back then the music was taking a beating and it just wasn't fair to anyone to have a drummer who couldn't do the job. I just said the music is gonna suck so there's no point in doing it. Eirk: After this what did you guys do? Jerry: Well, we began building our own guitars, we worked on another project, basically me and Doyle and the Murph. The second time around it didn't work with Murph either, so we found Chud, our new drummer. I like him a lot, I think he's great. Eirk: So how does it feel to be back after so many years? Jerry: Oh great! It's fantastic and it should have been feeling like this for the past ten years. Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I'm thirty-seven now and when I started the band I was 25, 24 actually. So what wound up going on over the last fifteen years was that I began to understand what it means to not really get to do what your really supposed to be doing in this world and you appreciate it more. I'm very happy that our band is back together, I'm very happy that everyone is just so happy to see the band. The music flows right through the crowd, through the whole place, it's totally positive energy that we project. People say, "well look at the Misfits, they're like that Slayer death metal kind of thing" and I think we have much more going for us than most bands. It is just a total energy surge. I'm sure you felt it at the Fillmore. Eirk: Of course, I've waited for years to see the Misfits. That was one of the best shows I've ever seen. It was definitely the best show I've seen this year. Jerry: We have only had three or four shows that I thought were better than that. It kinda chased away a lot of bad vibes because the last time we played in San Francisco we ran into a big problem. A kid got hit in the head with a guitar, this was back at the Elite Club, back in `81 or `82. What happened was that we were playing a show and the club was selling a bunch of underage kids beer. They were throwing the beers up on stage the whole night, so we wound up getting into a fight with the whole crowd and the police had to come and break the whole thing up. One kid got hit in the head with a guitar and had to get about 150 stitches. It was Doyle who hit him, and he was young too, maybe 16 or 17. That wasn't supposed to happen, it was just a real bad vibe. It felt very victorious to come back and play the Fillmore, where we just rocked the place. That's what the band is all about, just kickin' your ass and having a good time and playing really loud. Nobody gets hurt and I have the best time out of anybody. Eirk: Tell me how your guys hooked up with your new singer. Jerry: His name is Michale Graves and after we won the name back we decided that we needed a new singer. I had debated on doing the vocals myself and I just said to myself, "What the hell do you need that problem for, you got enough problems in your life." First, I started sending out letters to the fan club-the Fiend Club. I told everyone we we're looking for singers and we're going to hold auditions. So needless to say a million and one freaks just started coming out and making a fiasco out of the whole situation. I was nice about it though, when the kids would come up and play a song, I'd make a tape for them. To these guys it meant the world to them. Ain't that great? That's what we did for awhile and that just ended up being a waste of our time. A buddy of ours who used to live in Lodi, Ca and repair all of our amps, said he's got this guy from a local band and he sounds pretty good, and said why don't you give him a shot. It was Michale and I got the kids number and asked him to try out. He said he heard of us but he didn't know the music. He was nineteen. He's a real nice kid and willing to work and he's got a very, very good voice, very young sounding. I've got to be honest with you, Michale has got a lot of spunk. He's twenty one now and he's a little green but that's an element that I like in the band. He really doesn't care, he just comes out and gives it his all. He's not trying to be Glenn and I'll be honest with you, the band started when Glenn was about twenty, twenty one and I was seventeen. I saw Glenn at twenty-one and I think this kid is as good or better than Glenn was at that age. Glenn is forty now and you've gotta think, what is he gonna be like in nineteen years. I've got faith in Michale. I'm a father, and my days of being a punk came and went when I did the band the first time but the music has stayed with me. I've been lifting weights and building guitars and writing new songs but at the same time I don't have that "Hey lets go get drunk and smash stuff and puke all over the street mentality", that's out of my life. But Michale, on the other hand, just turning twenty-one still has that piss and vinegar attitude in him and the kids need that because that is someone they can relate to. They can still relate to me because I genuinely love what I do and I really enjoy doing it. I couldn't think of anything else I would rather do in this world. It's good to see Michale come out and enjoy the music and it's good to see the kids enjoy the music and not worry about the politics between us and Glenn. I mean I don't give a shit about it, why should they? Eirk: So you guys are working on a new album? Jerry: Yep, we signed a deal with Geffen and we're going to try to get it out in the beginning of spring and then try and do a world tour. I hope that it goes really smooth. Eirk: So who has been writing the songs? Jerry: Everyone is writing, that is the one thing that I wanted to maintain. Glenn was the main lyricist in the old days and now we're all writing. I think that's a much better element to have, it has more of a team feeling. It's good to throw ideas around because everyone has a shot to throw their two cents in. The original Misfits worked too though, Glenn would come down with a verse and a chorus and ask what we wanted to do with it. We would blend that into a song. Eirk: Let's talk a little bit about the new box set? Jerry: It's good isn't it? Well, the Static Age album I recorded when I was 18 years old and it just finally got the light of day with the box. The box set is kinda like my banner, if you know what I mean. The box set is a documentary of all those years of hard work when the Misfits were never accepted. If you look at the box, well I'm so proud of that thing, I look at it now and think that was seven years of my life, working my ass off. It's something I believe in. If you look at that box, if your a fan, you can't think that it could be any better. Eirk: One of the things I have always admired about the Misfits is that you stayed clear from all the corporate bullshit of having a record label dictate what you do. Jerry: Were gonna do that now, the guy who signed us to Geffen is the same guy who signed Metallica and White Zombie. He is very artist oriented, he tries to get you what you want so you're happy. The way I look at it is that I've only got about ten years left and it would be easy to keep going the indie route, but doesn't that miss the point of what should happen after twenty years that we've been playing? Shouldn't we be available to everybody? I think so. I think it is working out real well. We are writing great stuff and when we play, we play real hard. When we play, we play until we can't play anymore. That is the best feeling in the world, I love it, I love it so much. Jerry: What did you think about the Fillmore show? Eirk: It was awesome, you guys crept out on stage and then furiously blasted into your set. During the first song, you guys blew the power out. It was amazing, like I said, the best tour of the year so far. Jerry: We deserve it, we are still very humble about everything. We still try to mingle with the crowd, when you come to one of our shows, I'm hanging out too. I was out in the crowd and the kids actually carried me around after the show. If you come in the afternoon to a show during sound check, we're usually lifting weights or eating pizza or playing football. You know, it is a very low key thing that we do. I've had people ask me if they could get a backstage pass and I'm standing right next to them. I usually say, "Look I'm right here, you are backstage as far as I'm concerned." You know, I'm out here in the crowd with them. I don't go backstage, I like hanging out with the fans and signing everyone's stuff. That's what it should be about, having fun! If you've been to a Misfits show you understand the vibe. Eirk: Now, tell me about those guitars. Jerry: Well we made them, that is one of the things we developed while we were in the hole. I used to buy Rickenbacker basses and cut them up. I'd chop them up into the bass that was on theWalk Among Us album or those pictures you see in the box set. I'd buy a guitar for about $300 or $350 and then hack it up. To a music store, I would be taking a $300 guitar and ruining it, but to a Misfits fan, I couldn't tell you what it would be worth. I've got one bass left and I'm not going to let it go. Basically it is worth a hell of a lot more than 300 bucks! My view point was that if I was taking a $350 bass and hacking it up, why couldn't I start from scratch? With $300 or $400 I could create something that would have nothing to do with the hacking up of somebody else's guitar. I wanted to make my own guitar for about the same amount of money. What you see out there on stage is what we developed. We have a pin-router and a vacuum vise holds down the piece of wood so you can get the body shape. The necks were actually made out of graphite. The neck was what took the most time to make out of wood. The prototypes were mahogany bodied with maple necks and we still have those. They were the originals made by hand and we used those to design the ones that we use live with the graphite necks. For example, my neck runs right through the body, right through those to wing-shaped cut-outs on the side, the neck alone costs $250. I don't even have to touch them, they come right in the mail. $250 for the neck and then you can make any shape for the body as long as the neck fits on it. You can design a guitar yourself and use one of my necks and wind up having your own custom guitar for relatively very little money. The thing is though, there is a lot of mathematics involved, so not everyone could do it. They have a sound quite unlike anything else, that is five years of hard labor working in the machine shop. We have a machine shop and all the facilities to do that, without it the guitars would cost a mint. We also made the drums. When we pull the cover off the drumset everyone goes nuts. When I walk out on stage with my bass that has the skull on the headstock, thrown over my shoulder like it's a weapon, people go nuts! Five years of work, it's great. It psyches me up when I see the roadies walk the guitars out on stage and the crowd goes nuts. I think to myself, "I can't wait to play now". It's the best, one total adrenaline rush. I don't know of another band that is going to be able to hang with us. When Michale matures and starts really getting into a niche writing, I think were going to get bigger regardless where we are. As long as we're healthy we can keep it up for another ten years. We've actually managed to live up to an image as being a legendary punk band. We've matured and grown up, we don't overproduce our shows. We memorize our set list because I can't see without my glasses to read one. We memorize forty-five songs and just go out and play. We just try to play every song, no matter what order they are in. It doesn't make a difference if were playing "Martian" or "Mommy" or whatever, does it matter to the crowd? They don't give a shit, it's just the fact that we're back and we're out there doing it. I'm really happy that things worked out. It would break my heart if we didn't have the chance to come back and prove who we are and what we can do. We'll be back and we will bring up the level of things, the professional level of things. Monster movie trailers shown on video screens and all that shit. You know we're touring without even having an album out. I guess you can look at the new box set as one, but I don't consider that the new box set, I consider that the old box set. We went out and headlined a really good tour, 30 shows on the first half of the tour and then 25 or so on the second half. All of June, May, and a little bit of August, it was really great, I don't know what else to say. I think if we write a great new album, the world is going to say, "Hey Misfits, where have you been?" We've been waiting for this and the Glenn thing won't be an issue, people are just saying thank God you're back. And in my opinion you are still getting just as great of a show as you did back then. I think everyone will love it, we won't lose touch with who we are or what we're all about. I'll cut my throat before I go out there and play just to get money, and I'm not having a good time. I guarantee you that, I live by that. Since people look up to us, I think we owe it to them to try and help them, try to show them the right things to do. You know, stay in school. When I used to work in the shop, a lot of kids would call up with problems and want to drop out of school and you gotta keep them in there. You only get one shot at life and you should take advantage of it and do it right. Set goals and work hard for them, keep rising up. I always tell the kids, hey you wouldn't even see me playing tonight if I would have gave up. Eirk: Tell me about some of your legendary Halloween shows. Jerry: It was just the natural evolution of the band to wind up targeting Halloween as the release date for records and our big show of the year and anything that we could muster up that would be cool or out of the ordinary. We used to play the Irving Plaza a lot. One year we took a bunch of goat heads that were down at the butcher shop and we hung them up in nylon stockings dripping with blood. That was pretty sick, it smelled real bad. There was one night when we booked our own show. All of the clubs were booked for Halloween, so Glen and I went to a Ukrainian Hall and convinced the old guy that we were going to have a fifties dance. Then we went out and I borrowed some money from my old man, and since there was no bar I bought eight cases of booze. When we got there we had a bunch of our buddies bartending. I don't know if we made any money but everybody in the place was on their ass. It was crazy, we had no security and we didn't have any fights. It was this real makeshift-DIY gig, but let me tell you, it was a great gig. People went nuts, back then people used to look out for each other, nobody got hurt. Everybody would catch everybody. You could jump off of anything you want and everybody would catch you. It was great, but today it will even be better than that. So what you heard about in the past, the ideas that we were bigger or better back then, well listen, the best is yet to come! ------------------------------ From: "Daman Adlam" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:36:07 BST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #303 Fiends Skrewdriver are British. I'm so used to reading about mad Americans that I have to write and apologise for this. Daman "None more black" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:42:02 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: A little vinyl for the fiends... Hello Fiends... well this is going to be a short post, yeah i know you are all in shock. when the hell has she ever written something short. Misfits 101... Leading the fiends to Vinyl... well i have always said if i found some originals that i already have i would lead you guys to it. well here it is. 1) Retrospect Records - 206-329-1077 - Ben or Ken they have an original Halloween with insert for $75, Evilive $75, Evilive signed by Glenn $100, plus a load of boots. they were recommeded to me from another record store. also they are in Seattle. 2) Mainly Music - 802-257-0881 - Stephen - he has a mint condition Evilive 12" for $14.95, also a ton of punk and hardcore records all priced between $12 -15. 3) Smogtown Records - 818-446-2100 - for the Danzig fans that want promo stuff, they still have the promos for Blackacidevil, the patches and Sacrafice. all of it is under $10. well as i find out more i'll let you know. till next time, Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. 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Misfits Bible Band tape. 138 sighting black dork Metallica "Whiplash" Danzig caricature CG Silkscreen An amusing observation concerning Canada and the U.S. comments (hair and swastikas) EvilivE punker than... Something Misfits related; "Violent World" I HAVE PAINT FINALLY Just thought I'd be helpful violent world Dr. CHUD... Horror Hotel etc Re: Misfits Bible #304 Re: Jerry Only interview... I've been an ass Quack Re: Misfits Bible #304 Turn on the FLame throwers...will it be Justin or the Duck??.... Back to being the fiends... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:40:54 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #304 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) TIMES SQUARE GIGS Sunday, March 9 THE PYRAMID 101 Avenue ' A' NYC, NY Monday, March 10 KENNY'S CASTAWAYS Bleeker St at Sullivan St NYC, NY (this is a benefit for the Heart Foundation) On the issue of why Glenn chose the name DANZIG: he said he wanted to sound German - not nazi. I guess Glenn doesn't like to be associated with two-time losers. Ironicall, at the same time I changed my name from a german name to a more generic sounding name. Being of German heritage, I find the nazi thing to be extremely offensive, stupid and degrading to any self respecting German. I once met a guy who admited to being a nazi, but he had a very good explaination for it, "my father is my uncle and my mother is also my aunt, so since I'm an inbreed - I can't help but be a nazi". >Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 23:26:20 -0500 >From: Patricia Ragan Hoehner >Subject: as regards the MB et alia >Even Bobby hardly posts anything anymore......... But it's not due to the stupid shit being posted. Sometimes stupid shit is fun, but with the TIMES SQUARE CD release, and various other personal issues, I just haven't had the time. > (I can say this with semi-authority, since I saw the early misfits >rehearse lotsa times and the sound was awful! of all of them--Bobby, >Joey, Glenn and Jerry-- Bobby was the only one who wrinkled his nose at >quality of the recordings at the time) Actually, Joey wasn't too comfortable with the quality of some stuff either. We almost quit after hearing how poorly the HORROR BUSINESS e.p. came out. We felt it was a rip off, and wanted them to be given away. Eventually we sat down and discussed it, and compromised on the "haunted house" story. >In addition, the excellent CG neglected to mention the fact (sensitive >to the middle aged Denmama..) that Jill is one hot babe. Legs up to >there, pretty face that ain't gone to hell, tough as shit.. who could ask for >more in a punk rocking broad? Hard to beat! Don't forget . . . she bakes great chocolate chip cookies - and is damn great in the sack. ; ) (Yeah. If you wanna be in her band you gotta fuck her first) > "a rat bit my sister yesterday > and whitey's on the moon > grandma done lived on dog food > and whitey's on the moon.." Damn, CG ! You review Jill's first CD - and then go on to quote one of her favorite songs. According to JIMI, the biography of Jimi Hendrix . . . THE LAST POETS, and another early rap group got on Jimi's case for playing with white men - that's why he teamed up with Buddy Miles and Billy Cox. According to this book - Jimi wasn't happy with the line-up and swore to never play in an all-black band again - just to appease his 'brothers'. >From: she@udel.edu >Subject: glenn's pretty hair > >> Speaking of Glenn's hair, the guy's over forty, I wonder if he >>dyes it? >OF COURSE HE DOES. Althougth I don't know if it's cause he's going >gray (he probably is though, he's losing his hair!). I think it's >just cause he thinks black is no 1. he he he Is this some 'insider' hair dresser joke ? I think L'oreal has their blue/black #1. L'oreal was Glenn's brand of choice, y'know. >From: "Daniel J. Jakel" >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #303 > > To the guy talking about Agnostic Front, didn't they quit and >reformed >as Madball with new members or something? Madball opened for The >Misfits That was a different MADBALL. They were made up of Roger Miret's brother, and this great front man that had been a major recording star in Brazil, but gave it all up to come to New York to join a punk band. In 1995 they discovered that there already was a band with this name, and are now known as PSYCHO 69. I can't stand them, but the singer is a truly class act - one of the nicest guys in the biz. >From: Brett Fama >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #302 (late) >When did they write it? Don't forget that the song "Spook City, USA" >was originally released in 1981, even though it was not the original >Misfits version -- which you obviously know since you played on it. Right. But that version sounded nothing like the Songshop version, which is what the DEVIL DOGS song sounds like. They never woulda known about the MISFITS version. ------------------------------ From: mk Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #304 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:40:56 -0500 (EST) Umberto - Please describe this more in personal email. Is this the 11 song Wolfs Blood /Earth AD album from Germany? I'm not sure what you mean about orange coloring... > From: tom > Subject: violent world > > Another thing: If anyone wants some info on Chuck Biscuit's career in DOA, > there is a page on DOA's history. I goes on about where he lived (a few > blocks from where I live now!), how old he was when he joined, and some of > the other bands he was in. It also mentions a time when DOA went to Toronto > and played with the misfits. > > "the misifts just wanted to come up to canada and play a show. so they just > sort of showed up and played, and we opened for them. They kind of sucked, > but the other band was the best band in toronto, and they ruled. Of course > WE kicked ass." Don't quote me on that. Well actually, it wasn't DOA. This was during the time that two of the DOA guys were in The Skulls, with Dimwit Biscuits on drums. Franche' Coma still remembers that show. They actually did two shows that weekend, sometime around Xmas '77. > From: Geoff Wilson > Subject: Metallica cassettes and Nazi Skrewballs > > Mark, do you have any idea of what a copy of the "Jump in the > Fire" cassette goes for? I had no idea they were rare, and I'd be willing > to trade mine for something, if anyone is interested ... I honestly don't know how much that thing sells for. I had a cassette copy and sold it a long time ago. I also had cassette copies of the original Megaforce releases of KEA and RTL which I sold to someone on this mailing list for $6 about 2 years ago. I've seen people try to sell these for more, but the cassettes themselves are so crummy and old... By the way Fiends, remember that Evilive is being reissued on CD and vinyl (with a re-mastered cover) on Tuesday. mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:16:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew W. Bell" Subject: Cool new stuff I got, and a question! Hey I have been a Misfits fan since I was about 12, so about 8 years. I always love reading my Bible every other day and so on... This weekend I Purchased 2 Misfits CD's one is the Blood CD, and the other the Violent World tribute. Acouple comment's on Violent World, Over all I like it. I think it is great that new bands are willing to give tribute to their roots, and to those bands that completly changed the songs, If you have the disk you know who I mean, what a disrespect. Now about this Blood CD, I had never heard about it or seen anyone else write about it so is it a fluke that I found it? The sound quality is pretty poor but it is there in heart, I love it!!!! How much should I have paid for this? I paid $25 is that too much? Too little? About right? I'm intrested in collecting, but kinda on a smaller level than others I just can't pay $200 for a record, I can't even listen to (no record player) But I am very intrested in knowing as much about the band past and present as possible. I didn't know untill i got the Bible that they were even still together, let alone still touring. I am dying to go to a live show, so if anyone knows if or when they are coming to the North Carolina area please let me know. Also when is the new album suposed to be out? I've seen people say that it is out that the release has been delayed, what's the deal? Hope I didn't bore you with all the questions but I am dying to know the answers, so wither put them in the bible or feel free to e-mail me personally mwbell@hamlet.uncg.edu thanx!!!! Matt, Fiend for Life ------------------------------ Date: 5 MAR 97 14:12:10 EST From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com Subject: D-Generation Hi feinds!!! Just want to post my 2 cents on this one!! >I'd have to say that D-Generation is probably the current 'premier' punk >band from NYC. I know Bobby's been friends with Howie for 20 years but FUCK >IT, Times Square blows D-Gen away. CG: I dont know when the last time that you saw D-Generation but they kick major ass!! I saw them at CBGB's last friday night and they blew me away. And I know they would have blown Bobby Steele off the stage!! They have a killer stage presence. I know Howie is about 50 years old but he still rocks!! You and the Den-Mom should come up and check out their act!! There was a band from Fla trying to do Rock-A-Billie and they blew dog!!! I thought all that comes out of Fla, was death metal???? gfk ps--Skrewdriver RULES!!!!-- NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: 5 MAR 97 14:17:27 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com > From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com > Subject: Danzig Promo CD for sale >this isn't a promo is it Mark? I always thought it was just a regular >cd-single, because it doesn't say "promo" and it is/was widely available >for sale in stores. Although I haven't seen one in a few years... Yea, my mistake for "renaming" it. It really is the CD Single, not the promo. Sorry for the confusion, it was unintentional AZ ------------------------------ From: "Wempa, Eric" Subject: Danzig - City in Poland? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 14:40:00 EST Hey fiends, I always thought Glenn took the name Danzig because there's a city in Poland with that name. Any ideas? Sincerely, Erik P.S. My dream band since a lot of people are doing this.... GUITAR - The hockey mask guy from Body Count GUITAR - That guy from Nitro with the four-necked guitar VOCALS - That guy from Cypress Hill who just repeats what the first guy said DRUMS - That one-armed guy from Def Leppard BASS - That guy in Dogstar....you know, that actor ------------------------------ Date: 5 MAR 97 14:48:36 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Misfits Bible Band tape. It seems my post on this for Wed bible didnt make it in for whatever reason.. I am offering to create the Misfits Bible Bands tape. Basically, what I would need, is a DAT or HIGH QUALITY CASSETTE (or even a 7") from any band on this mailer that wants to do a Misfits cover. I have my own DAT machines and pro decks at home, so I would compile all the tapes I got onto one master, and run off a 60 or 90 minute cassette (depending on response) of all the covers. It would be for sale to the members of the Misfits Bible only, and it would be sold at cost (i.e., the only money I get will be to cover the costs of blank tapes, postage, etc). If interested, please contact me at AZAWODNY@MOBILE.BAM.COM. I am not looking to make any money off of this, and if the bands want any financial restitution, that will have to be worked out separatly. I am willing to donate my time to do this and have it come out good. I think we have a pretty decent mailing list here that for $3 or so postage paid can have a tape of 30 or 40 songs to hum along too. For everyone complaining about Violent World, here is your chance to make a difference... play the songs, hear the songs. PS. Someone other than me would need to create a tape cover and insert as I have no artsistic talent. What do you think? AZ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:08:42 -0500 From: "Jason St. Jacques" I really feel bad for some of you. Your pathetic lives intertwined with mine. I wish they could sell social skills in Cracker Jack because some of you possess none, and couldn't communicate with others if your lives depended on it. I grow weary of your bitching and complaining. Enough said. J. PS-you know who you are! ------------------------------ From: Initium9@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:01:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: 138 sighting I went to member directory in aol, typed in Samhain and it returned exactly 138 names. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:53:39 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: black dork >Racism is a real issue, it IS immature, and it's also on the same level (if >not higher) as blasphemy. i'm not a raciest ... but blasphemy? what year are you in? you catholics crack me up! oh, please don't have me persecuted and excommunicated! -steve- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:23:36 PST Subject: Metallica "Whiplash" From: misfit6x3@juno.com (Just some Fiend) I got an orignal "Whiplash" 12 inch thats in real good condition. I didn't think it was all that rare. In fact, I've never even listened to the damn thing. It was sealed untill about a month ago. My Uncle got it for me a a flea market or some shit. Well the fact is, I'm takin bids on it. I'm in desperate need of $$. JuStIn ------------------------------ Date: 3/4/1997 16:41 From: Patrick Sayers Subject: Danzig caricature Hey fiends, I thought that someone would be intersted in hearing some information about something MISFITS related-hmm maybe we should change this to the skrewdriver bible).In the march 1997 issue of PULSE(the shitty magazine put out by tower records)there is a little caricature of Glenn hanging out at disneyland wearing mckey ears,and shaking hands with some guy in a suit-its relly funny!!!It also says something about him (or that is the band Danzig)being on some live album that Ozzy Osbourne is putting out called Ozzfest.Whatever. Also,I think that we can all see now what our non-related posts are doing to the bible.Now don't get me wrong,I love the bible,but two seperate sections!!!Please take mark's plea to heart,and stop with all this stuff,its outta control.I'll even cut down on my Motley Crue comments,whicj I know saddens you all.Oh yeah,I have a really bad video that I bought of the misfits,samhain,and Danzig that I would like to get rid of.I paid 10 dollars for it,and would just like to make the money back,and cost of shipping.I promise I won't take as long to send this as I have in the past(sorry Kelly).Send me an e-mail for more information about the video Sincerely, Patrick Sayers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 16:19:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Jean-Luc Slamdog Subject: CG Silkscreen Feinds, Does anyone know where I could get a CG silkscreen so as to paint a leather jacket or something? Just e-mail me if you do. Jason JS0015@acad.drake.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 17:11:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: An amusing observation concerning Canada and the U.S. "Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant; no matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt. Even a friendly nuzzling can sometimes lead to frightening consequences." --Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, Washington, March 25, 1969 D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca Check out the official Six Sins Left homepage at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ or #SixSinsLeft on IRC. "When I look at an ant's shiny black eyes I see the face of God." --Six Sins Left ------------------------------ From: SHEENA9@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:03:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: comments (hair and swastikas) Hey, This is my first time writting in, but I have wanted to put my own two cents in for a while, I just finally got the time to do so. I have to make comments on a few articals from MB 304(don't worry it has nothing to do with skrewdriver). One thing was to the person who wrote the iron cross. Well you may possibly be right,but that's not what I found out just the other day at school (yeah I accually learned something there). We were waching a thing on Hitler in a history class and the people who made it had gone to the church he had attended as a child. There they found on the wall,above the alter, dead center, a big gold crooked cross. Then while I was reading the MB I got a phone call and I told my freind what I was going to write about and she told me something else. That it was a rune that ment power and good fortune and stuff. The other thing I wanted to comment on was the Glenn's pretty hair thing. I do think he dyes it, but only to make it black, not to cover gray. His hair line is also NOT receeding. He is styling it differant now and it makes it look that way, in my personal opinion he was better off parting it on the side even though it is kinda out of date(but he can be out of date, he can do what he wants, he's Glenn Danzig). Ya' know I just raelized how odd a combo this is, something as perplexing as the origin of the swastika and something as trivial as Glenn's hair. I am now done rambling, I hope that sombody gets to read this(you see this is only my second time e-mailing something,the first being the ordering of the Misfits Bible. Aahhh! my dad just told me he wants to get rid of aol, this may just be my last, I HOPE NOT !) Hoping to see you all later, Megan (SHEENA9) ------------------------------ From: Pendleton Subject: EvilivE Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:46:35 -0800 I have been readin g the latest bibles and I think that all this talk about gg and skrewdriver is fuckin lame and everyone should be talking about the Misfits.(This means you black duck or what ever!) Anyways does anyone know if Gleen is playing in the Proficy 2? And also I heard that Glenn got in a fight with snoop doggy dog true/false? One last thing have the misfits set any tour dates yet? if you have any answers email me Thanx, you fiend HELLHOUND HELL OF SATANS PACK ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:49:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: punker than... >>reminds me of everything that was great about punk rock in the early years, and I >>just can't understand what they are doing wrong. well, maybe if it was the early years of punk they would be well known but it's 1997. and i say this with no offense to any parties involved. i'm sure times square is a great band and bobby is a very capable musician. astrozomby said: >>have like "Last Caress" as the prom song i think skulls would be better. it's got a more *love-song-ish* feel going on. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 21:27:29 -0500 From: MIke Lunsford Subject: Something Misfits related; "Violent World" Alright, I think it's about time something at least half way Misfits related was posted... I just got "Violent World." Yes, I know it's belated, but I do everything late. Well, I actually like it, and since everyone who hates it is giving reviews, I think I'll give mine..... 1)"She"--Snapcase: Cool take! I like this track! One of my faves! Grade: A+ 2)"Astro Zombies"--Pennywise: This is one of the crappier trax. Let's see how fast we can play a 'Fits tune!!! Grade: D- 3)"20 Eyes"--Shades Apart: This is quite dull. They slowed this WAY down. Kinda' cool tho. Nice if you want to chill to a Misfits song Ripped off the intro from "Evilive" Grade: C 4)"T.V. Casualties"--Tanner: Ummm... Okay. Sounds like..."T.V. Casualties" by the Misfits. Grade: B- 5)"Where Eagles Dare"--Therapy?: Interesting take. Kinda replaced the bass line with some metal guitar. Is it just me, or is the lead singer trying to sound like Glenn? Grade: B 6)"London Dungeon"--Prong: This is weird! I think if White Zombie did this, it'd sound the same. Grade: B 7)"Death Comes Ripping"--108: Sounds pretty much dead on the "Collection I" version except that the singers voice is not as deep as Glenn's. Oh, well, he's not Glenn. Grade: A 8)"Mommy..."--Bouncing Souls: Sounds pretty much the same, 'sept he doesn't do the "rambling" of the repeat of "Killed a girl on lover's lane..." Grade: A 9)"Ghouls Night Out"--Goldfinger: I'd have never taken these guys as serious Misfits fans. But then again, I never took this band seriously. Grade: F+ (The "+" is for the effort of getting out of bed and making it to the studio in time to record. You guys rule!) 10)"Horror Business"--Deadguy: Pretty cool. I like the fact that they almost perfectly copied the "Evilive" version. Grade: A- 11)"All Hell..."--Sick of it All: Okay. What's next? Grade: C 12)"Last Caress"--NoFX: How cute! NoFX doing a 'Fits cover! I dunno, I suppose it grows on ya eventually Grade: C- 13)"Earth AD"--Earth Crisis: Did these guys even know the lyrics? Who cares, it kicks! Grade: A 14)"Return of the Fly"--Farside: Who are these guys?! Best song on the album! A lounge band that sings the Misfits! Who woulda' thunk?! Grade: A++ Sorry for taking up so much space! I just want to say one last thing, to all of you folks who are pissed off cuz it doesn't sound like the Misfits, guess what, IT'S NOT THE MISFITS! The bands selected were obviously not picked to sell the darn thing. I know many more "cool" punks who are into "real" punk bands like Green Day and jack-Offspring than Earth Crisis and Prong. And if you wanted it to sound like the Misfits, why didn't you just save your money and listen to a Misfits record? Okay, I'll shut up now. Later~~~~Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 23:08:55 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: I HAVE PAINT FINALLY The Lovely Elizabeth Nelly sent me some Speedball paint. I can make Harlock shirts now. She gets one first cuz she sent me paint. I have like 30 emails stored so I will check to see what sizes they wanted and start on batch and privatly let them know. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 00:32:57 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Just thought I'd be helpful At the record store 40 minutes away from me: Amoeba records, Berkeley California 1-510-549-1125 They Have about 6 sealed Earth AD Caroline reissues for 9 bucks each, They have some Collection II's and a bunch of Violent World LP's. I picked up a Metallica Ride The Lighting LP on Megaforce Records for 7 bucks. How much is it worth? I also got a Metallica Kill'em All LP w/the 2 bonus tracks (on Electra). I paid 20. How much is it worth? Who drew the cover to NCF? Who has a Beware replica bootleg cherry red 12" for sale? a 9 toes Later? a Invisible Man 7"? and a Never Say die 7"? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 14:50:37 +0100 From: fakirpro Subject: violent world fakirpro@club-internet.fr Help ! I cannot find any copy of the Violent World CD in France ! I'm ready to trade with french movie mags (SFX, MAD MOVIES) or the other tribute (Hell On Earth). Mail me fiends ! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:13:45 -0500 (EST) From: Emily <02459@udel.edu> Subject: Dr. CHUD... Here's a poem I wrote to compensate for the fact that I didn't make any mention of the good doctor in the infamous Ode To College. It is a true story... well, the end of it anyway. --------------- Dr. CHUD, You're Needed In Room 138 Dr. CHUD, my lover, my friend The only doctor on which I depend I wrote this poem to kiss your ass And maybe shatter your heart of glass Your drumset is grey with big ass spikes It's the next part I really like When "Misfits" lights up all in red Goddamn I want to give you head As you sit there and play your drums A physician's work is never done I keep your drumstick on my shelf Put it in place I can't reach myself You threw it in the air It hit me in the face I almost needed a real doctor after that one you son of a bitch ------------- Now that's the kind of thing that belongs in the Bible. Emily ------------------------------ Date: Wed Mar 5 20:23:04 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Horror Hotel etc Interesting, I saw a report the other day about a building they were escavating in NYC that was reported to be the "Horror Hotel" where the Mob (the WOP mob you know) knocked off people. Dunno if Glenn woulda known about this in the 70's or not, but it's possible. Far as D Generation being the premier NY punk band... say what? Blah. I would like to hear Times Square, who puts them out... allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 22:28:37 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #304 Thanx mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:49:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: Re: Jerry Only interview... OowahX2@aol.com kindly informed us: > I found this on Heckler Magazine's web page. It's more interesting than >the past few issues of the bible have been... > >The Resurrected Misfits Walk Among Us Again >by Erik Smollin This upsets me. Am I the only person who consults Misfits Central regularly? Or even once a month? This article has been on Central for close to two months now. Why on earth is it now here in the Bible? This is another example of how someone sees something and automatically assumes they are the only person who knows about it (Like the trillion Misfits/138/THX 1138 sightings). And besides that, why reprint it and waste precious Ks in our mailboxes? Why not just print the URL and let us go to the page ourselves? I have to laugh at where it was though, the little supplement to the Bible which had absolutely no literary value whatsoever. Mark, as far as I'm concerned, you went to far too much trouble for nothing. I glanced at the first post, realized it was already on Central and trashed it. If a second Bible is going to be issued for non-Misfits related topics keep me off that list, I want nothing to with it. D.ETH darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca Check out the official Six Sins Left homepage at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ or #SixSinsLeft on the IRC undernet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 18:15:32 -0800 From: Stephen Warren Subject: I've been an ass Listen, I know I've been kind of an ass with my past couple o' posts. I'm just trying to be like Wes used to be, you know, funny and shit. Well, my girlfriend set me straight that I'm actually just coming off as sort of a loser. You better believe when she tells me what to do, boy, I listen right up! Anyway, I'm sorry about all that and I just want to be liked. I really enjoy the misfits and the Misfits Bible. ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:11:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Quack Sorry for the little interlude but.. Mr. Duck, I have to smile when you tell us that ""4) This is the last time I want to hear Skrewdriver mentioned positively in the MB. 5) AND this is the last time I want to see any racist commentary in the MB. If I do, ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE. BELIEVE THAT!"" Unless you are Mark in disguise don't even consider telling the rest of us what to think, post or feel. (Even Mark doesn't edit anyone) If you are so hard against opression look at what you're doing. Second: ""Racism is a real issue, it IS immature, and it's also on the same level (if not higher) as blasphemy."" Guess what. I don't believe in any god or higher being. SO you had better start attacking me because our views differ. I laugh at organized religon. Quick Duck , flame me. and as for the bit of info between you and Neil McAllister, do you think we really care? You took it private to make it private. Keep it that way. So as for the rest of us, has anyone else heard a date for the Death Dealer Sountrack? The latest I got from Glenn's agent is Mid-april. But that as we all know is subject to change. JB ------------------------------ From: "PSYCO78" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 19:43:08 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #304 Fiends, This is concerning the Black Duck's comments concerning racisim in rap music. He contends there is none. This is about the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Has anyone out there ever noticed that in rap video's the white guys, if there are white guys, are always corprate types or cops? Now, I dont care if they want to portray white people that way in there video, it's there choice. But, it always seems as if the white people are bumbling idiots from the suburbs or oppresive assholes trying to ruin the black man's way of life. Get serious for a minute CJ, it is obvious that a lot of rap music is littered with racist garbage against white people, especially the Jews. Oh, I guess that is bullshit too eh? Yeah, and the Nation of Islam doesn't hate Jews either right? I have seen it in the video's, and I have heard it in they music. I have even read it in interviews, so don't tell me and everyone on this mailing list that it does not exist because we all know it does. And also, It sounds to me like you are making threats against quite a few of us here. Are you a violent person CJ? Would you kick the ass of those who disagree with you? Well fuck you. Don't threaten people. You are just as bad as Beowolf. I consider you guys one in the same. He is an admited racist, but by denying that black on white racisim in rap exists, and by threataning people who express views that differ from you, you are showing that you are either ignorrant or a racist yourself. So what is it? Ignorance or racisim? Either options sucks if you ask me. So what's the deal CJ, am I a racist becasue I think rap music has racist lyrics? Im I a racist because I think the Nation Of Islam hates the Jews just as much as the Nazi's do? You say you are not black. Fine. Whatever. In my opinion, I can think whatever the hell I like. Personally, I belive in being proud of your race. However, I dont think that pride in one's race should expand to hatred for another. I am proud of being white, just as a black man is proud of his roots and culture. It's the same with everyone. However, just because I am proud does not mean I think I am better. That is why I can say that I think groups like ARM, or WAR (a couple of white supremist groups) and the NOI, are, along with all it's sheep followers, garbage. Beowolf, you are an admited racist right? Well, to tell you the truth, I dont think anyone here cares. You are a Misfits fan as well right? Im betting you are one of the assholes that always end up ruining a good show by gang beating 15 year old girls in the mosh pit. You skins are sooooo though. I went to see the Misfits in Boston last year and a few skins showed up. Here is my impression of your type. It seems to me that skinheads are weak induviduals with low self esteem, so they shave there heads to mask there idendities then they join these groups to become some invisible force. A skinhead by himself is usually a pushover. A pansy. That is why they always team up and gang beat people. Anyone who was at the Boston show last May can suppourt me on this. At the first of the show, there were a few skinny little pukes with the suspenders and white shirts and shaved heads. They stayed away from the pit untill their bigger buddies showed up then they all hit the pit together, fist and elbows flying, hoping to hit somone that looked non aryan. How tough. I was up front and when the band played Hatebreeder some skinny puke skin tried to crawl over me and he was screaming "Michale, Michale" trying to get his attention so he could give him his Nazi salute. What a fuckhead. I felt like punching him in the face, but of course If I did, I would get bootfucked by 20 nazis. Shows how stupid the Nazi Misfit fans are. I dont know 100% for sure, BUT, im guessing Hatebreeder is not a pro nazi song like the skins that night seemed to think. So, just to sum up, be proud of who you are and your heritige, but dont hate others. There are lots of things we could teach each other, but still maintain our induviduality. Hey, I have a idea, and it is MISFIT related. Holy shit eh? OK, here it goes. Im thinking we should all submit to Mark, if it is ok with him of course, what we think the first Misfits video should be. Im not even sure if they are making one, but if they do, I think It should be for Mars Attacks. Anyone who has heard this will agree that it is a catchy tune. Back it with Blacklight if they decide to release it as a single. If they make a second vid, and want to show the non-fiends out there that there is more that one good tune on the new album, release a video for the Haunting. This is one of my fav songs and could be a cool video to help promote the album. Include live footage and movie clips, or in the case of Mars Attacks, stills from the cards, and you could have a couple of cool videos. This would be two great single realeases and Im sure it would encourage people to pick up the album and become fiends like us. Also, I dont know if anyone has thought of it before, but Im thinking of having Crimson Ghost stamps made up. You know, the kind you dip in an inkpad and then stamp someone with to get into a show or a club or something. I think that would be cool. I would stamp everything. I dont know what to do though. Should I call some printing press and just inquire about it? If anyone knows anything about this just let me know ok? Maybe Ill get a few made up and sell them over the bible! If anyone thinks this is a cool idea let me know and Ill look into it for sure. Later Roger PS: Im not going to apologize for the long post, but I will say Im sorry for the numerous spelling and gramatical errors. Im very tired. Also, some of you may remember me as being a little anti american. Im not. How can somebody dislike a country that gave us Cindy Crawford and the World Wrestling Federation? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:44:34 -0500 (EST) From: BYRON BAILEY Subject: Turn on the FLame throwers...will it be Justin or the Duck??.... Well after reading so many post flaming both The Black Duck and Justin,I have come to the the Conclustion that the said parties are acting like effeet assholes...Now I stated my opinion on the whole SkrewDriver issue and left it at that,as I said before....what's said is said....Whats done is done...Now what I want to know is why flame someone for flamin someone else..I mean whats the frikkin point people,I fail to see it myself...But then again I guess their is no true point and I'm left with a dry feeling in my mouth...And before I disappear once again,I find no use in kicking Justin or anyone else off the Bible for speaking there mind.Thats for the guy with the whole"Lets get rid of Justin idead,by putting the 69 on the end of your post"....I can feel the flames getting started over that one....As for anything else of importance...well if it's worth it,then I shall respond.......Till next time.... Byron..(The anceint FeimdEvil) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:11:29 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Back to being the fiends... Hello fiends... well i hope you guys claimed those 7"s real fast. the prices were great for mint condition 7"s. i received one more lead, though i think the store was a bit off. The band might have been called Misfits, but i really doubt that Glenn ever wrote a song about Skiing. Unless he hit the snow in upstate NY without anyone knowing. Jason, you know your post sounds just like a post last year about the samething. people killing others based on the lyrics from the Misfits songs. does anyone else remember this post? Gramps, thanks!!! Bible member fiends at a prom, that is truely a scary thought. especially making a movie out of it. Would that make Patricia and CG prom queen and king? Umberto - you have to describe the lp a little better. though it sounds like a german pressed Wolfsblood/EAD. oh, on the origin of the name Danzig - it was a port town in Poland, and one of the first towns to fall in the beginning of World War 2 to the germans. it was originally called Dansk and renamed after its capture. I had a weird professor for American History in college, we only studied WW2, the Coca Cola company, and Baseball. so i pretty much know odd things and detail on each subject. Misfits 101... Record conventions... well i, Gramps has, i think even AZ gave info on this... now its time to go to one. this weekend: March 8 GA - Savannah - CD and Record Show - Ramada Inn - I-95 at US 80, exit 18. 10am - 5 pm - $3 to get in. more info 912-923-3370 GA - Atlanta -Best Western American Hotel - same hours same price to get in. more info 800-435-8228 NJ -Wayne - Fireman's Convention Centrer - Parish Dr. - hours 10am-4pm - $4. more info 201-773-6067. also there are more in Atlanta, OR, PA, OH, IL, MI, RI, VT and Ontario. best bet look in your local weekend sections of the paper, and go. this is an experience that should not be missed. plus you never know what you will find. good luck if you guys go. i'm about to pass out, back to more Misfits 101 monday, have a great weekend everyone. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(tammy) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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The usual bullshit... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:15:53 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Bible Administration horseshit so spake Markus o' Kennedy: >Please limit your other discussions to personal email. I personally don't >care... I just skim through it. Some people don't want to see all this >other stuff, so please keep them in mind. I had a disturbing phone conversation with Mark a week or two ago. The gist of said conversation was that Mark was displeased with the bible of late. In particular with certain new individuals, he basically said he doesn't read it any longer. This is a sad state of affairs. Although I agree that some off-topic conversations will invariably end up posted on the bible (and some are great reading) the majority of the same are horseshit whining. I post alot of off-topic stuff from time to time, but for those of you that actually take the time to read what I write you will notice that I usually put a Misfits' spin on things. Take for example my last post (bible #304), the majority of the post was a review of Times Square. 7k on Times Square and 1k on unrelated bible threads. I would have to think that if you have absolutely nothing to say about the Misfits or any related band, you have no right to post here, period. My vote is that Mark delete any post that is not related at all. and the Denmom's two pesetas is....whuddever happened to the 'no gratuitous flaming of others' rule? seems a good 99% of the unreadable crap is simply that, one fool or another calling a similarly inclined fool an asshole. btw people Denmom's page is back up - http://www.magicnet.net/~desdmona Cg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:10:27 -0500 From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: "From Hell They Came..." The Bible Bands Tribute to the Misfits Hey, I've decided to go ahead with my plan to put together a Bible tribute tape. The rules are simple, anyone that sends me something is on it. If you send me 10 songs, 10 songs are on it. Whenever I get enough material, I'll make them up and probably sell them for $4. I have been sending our demo out to people for $4, cause it costs about $2.50 to send and $1.50 for the tapes, so this should be right around that as well. I plan on calling it "From Hell They Came...," after one of the new songs by the Misfits. Any band can do any song or songs that they want. If there's 15 Last Caress' then there's 15 Last Caress'. If you have anything recorded, be it a demo, a 4 track, a cd, boombox recording, acoustic, anything and everything will be included, or when you get something recorded, send it to me at: .From Hell They Came C\O Keith Noss 61 East Duncan St. Columbus, Ohio 43202 Basically, I'll just tape them from tape to tape, but if it turns out to be better than I thought, maybe I'll make arrangments to tape them more professionally. Either way, it'll be cool. I also plan to include something in the way of a bio of all the people who submit something, so send photos, bios, flyers, e-mail and snail mail addresses, or any related info as well. For any questions or for further info, write me at: knoss@iwaynet.net And let me know what you all think of the project. Thanks, The Noss Devilock P.S. - Everyone congratulate me, I won the Violent World Contest! ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:28:12 -0500 Subject: To the guy who wanted to make a 30 or 40 song tape of bible bands doing covers.. I'd buy one if you did make it.. if we can find someone to make a tape cover up, can you find the means to print them pretty decently?! I'd pay money for a nicely made tape of bible bands. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:39:49 -0500 From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: "From Hell They Came..." Part II My last post didnt make it to the Friday Bible, in fact, I sent it about two minutes too late, so I didnt see AZ's post about a tribute tape, but, none the less, I've already started on my project, so I'll continue with it. Sorry AZ. So, I guess we'll have two of em'. Later, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: she@udel.edu Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 02:09:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: re: in michale's pants I want to be...he he he Emily: nice poem about CHUD. You are REALLY horny aren't you. he he he >the Glenn's pretty hair thing. I do think he dyes it, but only to makeit >black, not to cover gray. His hair line is also NOT receeding. He is >styling it differant now and it makes it look that way, I think he must have a few grays a least. My mom is approx the same age and she does. But I agree, like I said, that he would be dying it black now no matter what. I think he is losing his hair though. His hair line isn't receding really his hair is just getting thinner. This is so dumb... your ghoul Leah ------------------------------ From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marscano Subject: Wait a minute... Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 02:59:22 -0500 Psycho78, you wrote: "This is concerning the Black Duck's comments concerning racisim in rap music. He contends there is none. This is about the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Has anyone out there ever noticed that in rap video's the white guys, if there are white guys, are always corprate types or cops? Now, I dont care if they want to portray white people that way in there video, it's there choice. But, it always seems as if the white people are bumbling idiots from the suburbs or oppresive assholes trying to ruin the black man's way of life." You just answered your own question, Psych, nothing there is totally and completely anti-white... take their place for a minute if you can imagine it, and consider what they see. A lot of times "white" also means "uncle toms" who down their own race after making it in the "White" world. Ice-T explains all of this a whole lot better than I ever could in his book "The Ice Opinion". Don't just take the lyrics at face value. Most of the rap groups know they've got the ears of young whites that don't see things the way their parents do. In his book, Ice-T pretty much sums up the basic attitude behind rap as "the art of talking shit". If I were to say "I'm gonna wrap my dick around this phone pole, stick it up the drainpipe, and fuck your sister", you know that I certainly can't wrap my dick around anything, much less a phone pole, and I certainly don't want to fuck your sister (assuming she's yorunger than you and I are). That's just bragging. Another thing to keep in mind. "Get serious for a minute CJ, it is obvious that a lot of rap music is littered with racist garbage against white people, especially the Jews. Oh, I guess that is bullshit too eh?" ----Sort of. You just as eaily could be hearing things that aren't there. A few examples would be nice before making such accusations anyway. "Yeah, and the Nation of Islam doesn't hate Jews either right?" ----That's also an exaggeration by mainsteam media as far as I know, and I try my best to keep up with things. If you ever come across a tape of Minister Farrakhan's appearance on Aresenio Hall, watch it. You might get an insight into him that you didn't have before. I saw it and respected him a lot more afterwards. "I have seen it in the video's, and I have heard it in they music. I have even read it in interviews, so don't tell me and everyone on this mailing list that it does not exist because we all know it does." ----Again, examples, dude, examples! Name names, Quote lyrics! Let's see how much you do know... "Are you a violent person CJ? Would you kick the ass of those who disagree with you?" ----No, but the kind of racist drivel that the likes of Beowolf spouts off and endorses really pisses me off. Sorry but the likes of him are a sore spot wirth me and I don't let such shit go past... "So what is it? Ignorance or racisim? Either options sucks if you ask me." ----Try intolerance for white power/Klan bullshit. Blame my parents, they taught me all that. "So what's the deal CJ, am I a racist becasue I think rap music has racist lyrics? Im I a racist because I think the Nation Of Islam hates the Jews just as much as the Nazi's do?" ----No, I'm saying you need to bring up more examples than just summing up everything in a few easy paragraphs. I dig into all this stuff, I don't know if you do, and your response, however intelligent (except for the "fuck you" part) it may be, doesn't give me a clear enough answer. I do give you credit for ripping into Beowulf, but you probably aleady guessed that. *smile* Now, let's settle this in one or two replies so we can get on with our lives. I feel like I'm repeating myself and I'm not in the mood for another e-mail war and I don't think you are either. Later, CJ Carey aka "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:31:43 -0500 From: Scott Perry Subject: Skulls I am still wondering about the skull thing. Do the Misfits still collect skulls, or was that just Glenn? And if it was just Glenn does he still collect them? And if either of the above do, where do I send them? And are you allowed to send skulls in the mail? Boy that had a lot of question marks in it. I asked before but I'm asking again Scott the Bastard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 09:50:30 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: Dgen and other Pussies >From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com >Subject: D-Generation >"CG: I dont know when the last time that you saw D-Generation but they >major ass!! I saw them at CBGB's last friday night and they blew me >And I know they would have blown Bobby Steele off the stage!! They have >killer stage presence. I know Howie is about 50 years old but he still=20 >rocks!! You and the Den-Mom should come up and check out their act!!" i happen to like some Dgen, so don't get me wrong, but those guys are the biggest, back-stabbing pussies out there. ADAM WEST opened for them back in '94 and they were nothing but assholes... to us, the club, and the audience. when they were dropped from EMI 2 years ago and columbia records was interested in picking them up, a friend of mine who works in the A&R dept. begged his boss not to sign them. besides their fucking attitude to other bands, my friend compared them to m=F6tley cr=FCe and said they were more interested in hairspray than writing music. now i've heard that howie is an okay guy, but jesse (the singer) is a fucking prick. that's my 3=A2. and if you wanna see a REAL NYC punk band, go see ELECTRIC FRANKENSTEIN. they're what Dgen has fucking wet dreams about becoming! >From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com >Subject: Misfits Bible Band tape. >"I am offering to create the Misfits Bible Bands tape. Basically, what I=20 >would need, is a DAT or HIGH QUALITY CASSETTE (or even a 7") from any >on this mailer that wants to do a Misfits cover...." go for it! that would relieve me of the task of doing it! :-) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:56:22 -0500 (EST) From: Emily <02459@udel.edu> Subject: bible #305 Sheena9 said: >his hairline is NOT receeding and commented that discussion about Glenn's hair is trivial First of all, she said he was losing his hair, she didn't say that he has a receding hairline. His hair is thinning, something which happens to forty-somethings, don't think that it won't just because he's Glenn Danzig. As for discussion about Glenn's hair being "trivial". I agree, but what's your point? We can't get really cool, super relevant Misfits news every day, no matter how hard we try. I thought one of the most interesting things in today's bible (other then a certain poem) was Bobby's revelation that Glenn probably uses L'oreal hair dye. Not because it's important, but because it's interesting. If it's not interesting to you, then don't read it. and Tes777 said: > Bible member fiends at a prom, that is truely a scary thought. Hey! I went to the prom last year! What are you saying? Emily ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 01:47:25 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #305 > 1997 issue of PULSE(the shitty magazine put out by tower > records)there is a little caricature of Glenn hanging out > at disneyland wearing mickey ears,and shaking hands with > some guy in a suit-its really funny!!!It also says something > about him (or that is the band Danzig)being on some live > album that Ozzy Osbourne is putting out called > Ozzfest.Whatever. This is weird. I've been wanting to write a song called "I Saw Glenn Danzig at Disneyland" for like a year. If I wanted to use the Melody from Martian it would be somethin' like well I saw Glenn Danzig at Disneyland whoa oh oh I was calling out his name whoa oh oh He was wearing mouse ears-had a mouse balloon whoa oh oh well, he was scared of the haunted house display (i don't know?) Someone write me the song not in the melody of Martian. Donald can beat him up, he can get sick on the Dumbo ride, whatever... . I started on the Harlock shirts. I made 3 L and 3 XL. I am not happy with the way 2 came out. I will make more tomorrow. I added stuff to my Harlock shirt page. here.... http://www.ecis.com/~mikei/index6.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 04:40:53 -0700 (MST) From: Nicholas B Brown Subject: subscribe What's up guys! I just saw the bible for the first time the other day and i wanted to get in on the action. I know this is a little late, but i saw the cell block 1138 thing in Star Wars too and i got a big kick out of it. Hey Ed Obrien, they just released Earth A.D. on cd about a month ago didn't they? I saw it in a couple of record stores so it must have been new. Just wanted to say hi to all the fiends and let em know i think this thing is pretty cool... Nick Brown ------------------------------ From: Mike Hoffman Subject: bootlegs, voilent world Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:40:15 -0500 i've got some bootlegs up for sale if anyone is interseted and a couple of copy's of voilent world for sale(orange, green , white vinyl ) e-mail me at mhoffman@clab.cecil.cc.md.us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:50:19 -0500 From: Xdisco infernoX It's ALL about Cindy Crawford and the World Wrestling Federation!!!!!! Kevin XXX ------------------------------ From: dave rieth Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:56:10 -0700 Subject: Bootlegs and dubbed tapes I'm still looking to trade concert videos if anyone is interested I will be adding more throughout the week to my website at: http://members.tripod.com/~degenerated/home.html I have Misfits, Germs, DK, Rancid, Samhain I am also looking for some kind people to dub some tapes for me about the best I can do is trade videos or other tapes or possibly pay the cost of shipping & tape the list of tapes I'm looking for is also on my website so check it out hey and if anyone has any old punk shirts stained, don't fit, whatever I know people who may be interested e-mail me for more info degenerated@wwdg.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 14:31:26 -0600 (CST) From: Johnny P Officer Subject: metallica jif tape heh i bought that jump in the fire tape from ya mark, and a creeping death tape and 10" one single picture disc. gerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 15:40:45 -0500 From: David Cook Subject: RE:Last ish Emily wrote: >I keep your drumstick on my shelf >Put it in place I can't reach myself >You threw it in the air >It hit me in the face >I almost needed a real doctor after > that one you son of a bitch Welp, that was really cool. I loved it and laughed. The whole thing, really was cool... but that last part killed me David Cook ------------------------------ From: Initium9@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:17:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DANZIG, CITY IN POLAND? This is copied directly from an encyclepodia: >Gdansk (Danzig), a port city in Poland, has a population of 461,700 (1993 est.). The >city lies at the mouth of the Vistula River on the Baltic Sea; the surrounding land is >low-lying, and both water defenses and dock basins were easily carved from the >soft alluvium. Could he have gotten his name from this? ------------------------------ From: Angelsn@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:07:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: 138 MY ASS!!!!!!!! >From: Initium9@aol.com >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:01:41 -0500 (EST) >Subject: 138 sighting >I went to member directory in aol, typed in Samhain and it returned exactly >138 names. BULLSHIT I ONLY GOT 137 MOTHERFUCKIN LYER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:56:13 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: stuff [tab] the undead tab is nearly complete. i am looking primarily for Newfits tab. to be added to the tab mailing lists, email me. also, thanks to Bobby Steele for helping me (and Aaron and Marc) out with the Undead tab. [samhain] does anyone know for fact what equipment Damien used in Samhain? [star wars] not to spoil it for you, but in RETURN OF THE JEDI: SPECIAL EDITION, the part of Wicket (the littlest Ewok) is now played by Glenn Danzig. "that one is wise." "but not as i am short" ryq ------------------------------ From: Roger or Nick Carpenter Subject: Jugheads Rip-off Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:48:41 -0800 To All the Fiends, I thought I might let out a little something that disturbs quite = deply. If anybody knows who "Jugheads Revenge" is then you'll know that = they're a good hardcore band. As it turns out on their new album they = have dropped about half or more of their lineup. My point? Well, these = bunch of new wave punk wannabees put out their own version of "London = Dungeon" without the original lyrics or even any credit to one of the = best bands in the world the Misfits. The version is not all that bad but = the new lyrics suck and I think they should all be hung. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:37:48 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: a MAD MiSFiTs sighting ...sort of On the back of the March 1997 issue of MAD magazine, there is an advertisement parody. They are making fun of the Psychic Friends Network, instead calling it the Psychic "Fiends" Network. There's even a phone number, 1-800-FIENDS. I thought this was pretty cool, and worth mentioning. If you don't think so, then compare it to all non-related shit on here recently, and then proceed to fuck yourself. Also, to any people with AOL, have you ever tried looking up Misfits, or samhain in the Software Library? There is a cool Samhain skull startup screen for Macintosh, and a complete Danzig discography (by Mark Kennedy). You don't even need web access for this stuff. Maybe there's stuff for IBM PC's, I haven't checked. To anyone who doesn't have AOL, and DOES have a MAC, I can send you the Samhain Skull Startup Screen. My address is . -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:56:23 -0500 (EST) From: asenath Subject: record show i went to a record show today and picked up and evilive 12" and collection I 12" for $25... they had a few other misfits vinyl there as well... LOB 12" for $15 die die 12" for $25 and ead 12" for $25. i also saw a sardonica 7" for $8 with dr. CHUD on drums and a mourning noise 7" for $40 that was signed by bobby steele... even though bobby wasn't in the band, he is listed in the thankyous.... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : i stopped having nightmares... : : ...when i became a monster. : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 21:52:24 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Blah blah I don't know about the other thousand members of the list think about it, but I'm kinda sick of the bickering; ie the recent discussion of racism, oi bands, and other sh!t (for you juno people). I don't know what it's got to do with misfits. I try to read a post and I spen most of my time scrolling through crud, half the time I miss valuable posts (CG, EVB, Bobby, Denmom, etc). You guys could start a newsgroup for that stuff if you guys are that into it. I'm tired of dreading having a Bible in my mailbox. There is a point to this post, though. Mark: who would I have to talk to in order to see if the 'Fits would come to my dustball town of Lubbock, Texas? I know we could fill a club easily here. Hope I kept it short enough, Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 20:00:41 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Garage Days Does anyone have a Garage Days 12" EP for sale? I'm actually looking for 2. When is it being reissued? I'm going into hiding for a while. I'm going to make the shirts first. Give me a while. okay? Does anyone have a Beware 12" bootleg for sale? The one that is a replica. ------------------------------ From: OowahX2@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 00:19:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: ;-) I just wanted to inform everyone that I'm going to consult with D.ETH before posting anything else to the bible. It would be a shame to waste everyone's precious K's with more worthless info... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 02:55:05 -0800 From: Kaye Elde <"kelde@mail.sisna.com"@sisna.com> Subject: harvey korman is gay I think that one dude who wants to make a Misfits Bible Tribute tape is smart, I just bought violent world and it is the biggest piece of shit ever released, I hope those bands don't ever meet the misfits cause they'll kick their asses. Anyways I saw Glenn Danzig buying some hair dye, some sanka, and Caramel Rice cakes. Ultimate Crazy Fast Insane band: Guitar: Doyle Lead Guitar: Trey Azagthoth Lead Guitars and Acoustic Guitars: (the Dude from Judecca I don't know his name) Vocals: King Diamond and Chris Barnes Bass: Steve Digiorgio (from Death) Drums: The dude From Immolation ------------------------------ From: parksr@brunswickmicro.nb.ca Subject: idiots. Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:59:41 -0400 stephen acetta said (in so many words) that "peace punks" and nazi skins are the same. violent beer drinking poeple who believe in sex and violence. sorry the exploited aren't peace punks.and that their movements have no goals. peace punks are true anarchists. they believe in peace and equality for everyone and abolishment of all systems and personal power. nazi skins believe the white race is superior and want to ruel the world. seem like goals to me although the latter is utterly insane. sharps can be jsut as ignorant as nazi skins. they'll beat up a wp skin just the same as theywill a punk for buring a flag or hanging one upsidedown (believe me it's happened).nazi skins are brainwashed morons, like that beowolf guy. anachro-punks are far from brainwashed. trad skins are just a bunch of weekend alcholics and sometimes real old punks who like to drink and listen to oi ( which i have no problem with cause i like trad skins). as i have said before let's stop whining about stupid shit (not that racism is stupid) and get on more misfit related topics. we are all united by the misfits and that's really fucking cool that a band that sings about monsters and killers can unite so many people. If jerry saw some of the shit that was said here he'd tell most of you to grow the fuck up and read a book. if he did it would be sound advice. "drinking and driving is so much fun" --The Buisiness ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 00:36:48 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: The usual bullshit... Hello fiends... first off to Matt Bell - you will learn real soon that you don't have to pay $200 for a Misfits record. And the one thing i will always point out, that it is possible to collect on a full scale Misfits and Samhain $50 or less. Plus i only paid the $200 on my Cough/Cool and well worth it. Going price as i had posted once it was anounced in Goldmine Magazine last month, is $425. Paying more for is, well you would just have to be plain out of your mind stupid. shit when did the bible ever take on any real religious tones? blasphemy, does that mean we have to hear about satan again=BF ;0 oh on the swastikas(which is everything i do not believe in) is composed of the rune Eihwaz - which stands for Defense, Avertive Powers and the Yew Tree. amazing how much shit is ripped off and used for something else. Though i doubt that the Druids who developed this form of alphabet ever intened it to be used for evil purposes. oh, D.Evil, "hack the heads of little girls and put em on my wall," just really has that love song quality to it ;) JB, how could Danzig have a date on Death Dealer as a sound track if he doesn't have a movie date, animated or otherwise. plus i hate to say it, but Blackacidevil is the first thing that came out when he said it would. everytime i heard a date or asked him myself when something was coming out it never did when he said it would. example: I met him July of 1992, i asked about Black Aria, which he was suprised to even hear anyone ask(as other people around us looked at me as if i was nuts). I was told it would be out in about 2 - 3 weeks. which turned into 2+ months. so i doubt we will be seeing that soundtrack anytime soon. Misfits 101... Did anyone actually go... so did anyone take the time this weekend and go to a record convention? i will try to post all the ones for the weekend on fridays. if i just list the state and you do not see anything in the weekend section of your friday's new paper - e-mail me and i'll give you the details of where it is. most of them cost about $3 - 5 to get in. and usually well worth it. though the Miami ones of late have been sucky, most people i trade with have said the Atlanta ones and the NY ones are really good. Where they have seen original Misfits stuff at the Atlanta shows. plus trading is very welcomed to use in the dealing. suggestion, take a bag with you even if you do not have stuff for trade or sale. i learned the hard way, lots of records get really heavy. also if you see something you really want, don't pass it up hoping to find it cheaper or to make up your mind. it will be gone when you get back. plus don't take someone along with you that is not into their own thing or kind of likes records. they will drive you nuts. buy one thing, "are you done yet, can we go now." well this week i hope to hear more info on Misfits records. and if i do, you will see it on the bible. if anyone bought any of those pieces post on the bible last week from the place in Seattle let me know. i would at least like to know if you get your stuff and what kind of condition its in. for possible deals later, if they get stuff that i don't already own. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 307 Wednesday, March 12th 1997 Today's Topics: correction The horror. The horror. Four Hits From Mars 7" EP Just as bad as them! videos and questions BLACKACIDEVIL tracks for any bible comps. some shit Bullshit in the bible Misfits things for Mac Misfits covers in manchester, england Re: Misfits Bible #306 my posts have the best grammar and spelling! 4 Hits From Mars... my sweet little roxanne Small amount of stuff for sale or trade another strange sighting ...sort of "From Hell They Came..." proud to be a Fiend Just plain stupid bullshit... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:41:39 PST Subject: correction From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) >From: asenath >Subject: record show > >i went to a record show today and picked up a mourning noise 7" for $40 >that was signed by bobby steele... even though bobby wasn't in the >band, he is listed in the thankyous.... I wasn't a member of MOURNING NOISE, but I did play guitar on that record. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:32:37 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: The horror. The horror. DANIEL HERRMANN: As far as them saying "fiends" instead of "friends" in MAD Magazine, that's not really Misfits-related. The Misfits stole that from old E.C. horror comics (TALES FROM THE CRYPT, VAULT OF HORROR, HAUNT OF FEAR). The Misfits "stole" it, and MAD didn't... because the last surviving publication of the company that started those horror comics, and was later killed by the Comics Code Authority hysteria...... is MAD Magazine. Back in the days, MAD was always doing spoofy versions of the same stuff TALES FROM THE CRYPT would do. E.C./MAD was recently bought by DC (Superman) comics, I believe. SCOTT PERRY: Yes, you are allowed to send skulls through the mail. But not to the Misfits -- that was a special clause in the Reformed Postal Code Act of 1976. You better send 'em to me, and I'll pass 'em on to Glenn and Jerry for you. THE DUCK: For the love of God, shut up!! Get a newsreader, discover the world of Usenet, and post the rap shit in its appropriate place for fuck's sake. For the last time, this is the Misfits Bible, not alt.biggiesmalls.dead.fat.fuck!!! TAMMY S.: Well, you maybe have ONE type of swastika there... but the swastika is a pretty much universal symbol in many cultures and religions. All it really stands for is movement... the center is a fixed point, like the axis of the universe; and the "arms" represent a constant revolution. Besides Druids, it was used by the original Aryan people (and I'm not talking blonde blue-eyed Hitler "Aryans" here, I'm talking the dark-skinned yak-herding nomadic Indian Aryans) the Chinese, and many other places. Sometimes they point to the left, sometimes they point to the right... doesn't make any difference (though Nazi boneheads take note -- don't look any stupider than you are, YOUR swastika points to the left!) Hitler liked the swastika because to him it symbolized a sort of never-ending machine of fascism... "facsism making the world go 'round". Remember that Hitler and his allies were called the "Axis" powers in WWII? But what's wrong with things being "used for evil"? If I found out something I'd invented had been "used for evil", I'd be STOKED!! As far as the DEATH DEALER soundtrack, I think this is something Glenn has had cooked up for a while, but it was originally going to be BLACK ARIA 2. He since shifted it to a media tie-in for his comic book company, Verotik. It's a soundtrack to a comic book (or more accurately, Glenn's interpretation of Frazetta's character). NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:36:04 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: Four Hits From Mars 7" EP Four Hits From Mars 7" EP Undermine - Die Die My Darling Silent Noise - Horror Business Ripsnorter - Skulls Idiot Police - We Are 138 The four bands featured on this Misfits tribute are bands of Misfits Bible subscribers. The EP is only available through mail order from FANDANGO RECORDS. A total of 300 copies (100 black, 100 blue, and 100 gold) were pressed. They're $4 a piece postpaid. Show your appreciation for the bands and order one! The bands themselves took a lot of the colored wax, so this is the prime time to order these. As I said before, they're $4 a piece. If you order one copy, postage is free in the USA/Canada. If you order 2 or 3 copies, please tack on $2 for postage. I prefer cash, but if you must send a check or money order, please make it out to JASON YASNER. For foreign orders, please inquire. These will go fast since there are only 300 of 'em. Look for reviews of the EP in future issues of the Misfits Bible. Thanks! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:55:53 -0500 From: Bill Hanscom Subject: Just as bad as them! Fiends... I've have seen all the post about this nazi/g.g. stuff...and... You guys that post how much you are sick of it are clogging the Bible just as much as the people that have been arguing about nazis, g.g. allin, etc. You got what you wanted they have stopped, so why do you feel the need to keep saying "why do they keep talking about g.g.", "stop posting about nazis"...the first complaint post about their arguement, after they stopped, was one too many. When you clog up the Bible with complaints of how people are clogging the Bible you r being very hippocritical, and I hope to god that people, like me, don't start clogging the BiBle with messages like this one. Thanks, and I pay for MArk to make a server for the Bible. Keep up the good work Mark. P.S.-Tammy (tes777) any record convetions coming near Boston soon. ----------------------------------------------------- Bill Hanscom hanscom@shore.net ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: BJSchuller@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:56:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: videos and questions Greetings loyal fiends, In last fridays bible someone mentioned the Misfits doing a video. I'm curious to know what other fiends think about this, and mtv. My personal opinion is that mtv sucks. I hate their holier-than-thou flavor of the month attitude. They come off like they are the dictionary of "cool" and that if it's not on mtv, it's not worth listening to. I hate that. It seems like every time I start to get into a new band, they become a "buzz clip" and those bastards at mtv run them into the ground. Plus, I start hearing about the band from all these "mtv-heads" who only listen to the one song they heard on mtv and care nothing for the content of the music. One of the things I like about the Misfits is that they are NOT on mtv, and I would hate it if my hatred of mtv killed my love of the Misfits. Don't get me wrong, I wish the Misfits all the success in the world. I am just afraid that becoming a "buzz clip" band will be the first step twards selling out. Remember what happened to metallica? All their early stuff was and still is very good, but then they started making videos and it all went downhill from there. Anyway, I'd like to hear what you guys think so E-mail me or post it on the bible. I would think that the prospect of the Misfits selling out is a worthy topic for the bible. The second thing I need to ask is about the new Misfit songs. I was in the army stationed in the middle of nowhere when the 'fits re-formed. I have read quite alot on the bible about the new songs, and even downloaded the lyrics to them. However I haven't to hear them yet. Any fiend out there who can sell me a copy of them, or give me information on how to order them, Email me please, it would be much apprieciated. --The Rat Bastard "Now where was I? God, I've got to stop sniffing this ajax!" --Vivian, The Yong Ones ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:03:54 -0500 From: "Kevin L. Kuder" Subject: BLACKACIDEVIL Fiends, I FINALLY got a copy of Danzig 5 (yeah, I know it's been out for awhile, but times are tough) and I must say that's it's pretty much what I expected. It starts out great, the first few songs are cool, then it goes into his redundant, boring songs in the middle. Just like Danzig 4. There is a song or two that reminds me of the first Danzig album, which is good cause it's a classic, but he seems to be in a rut of making albums with 2-3 really good songs and the rest are just mediocre. What I'm gonna do is take all the best songs from Danzig's albums and put 'em on one tape so I don't have to listen to the lesser quality songs. If I do that though, my c.d.'s will probably get a little dusty. You can count me as another vote saying that posts not relating to the Misfits be deleted. I can't take scrolling through 5 paragraphs of nazi bullshit. I don't know if this is being done or plans to be done, but wouldn't it be cool to have a comic where the Misfits are like zombie/vampire/undead hunters or something? It would have to be a total horror comic. I don't know, just an idea...help me out here, people! Kuder "You have no choice of life or death, my face you will not see, I'll rip your flesh, Till there's no breath, Dismember destiny" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:23:54 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: tracks for any bible comps. This Saturday my drummer and I are going to the studio to record 4 Misfits tracks. If it goes well, we might do more. We plan on doing: 1.Children in Heat (if I back down on the distortion, My amp sounds like Bobby's) 2.Halloween (this was originally, the only one I wanted my band to record) 3.Devil's Whorehouse (this is my favorite Fits song. I'm going to do atleast 3 tracks of guitar. Regular verse, palm muted verse, and the slides at the end of each measure) 4.Death Comes Ripping (yeah!) I am doing guitar and Bass and Erik is doing drums and vocals. I plan on using these tracks on any comps. that come up. I never posted this gooble: Top 5 Misfits tracks: Devils Whorehouse Halloween Horror Business Astro Zombies We Bite Top 5 Samhain Songs: November's Fire All Murder All Guts All Fun Let The Day Begin Black Dream He-Who-Can-Not-Be-Named Top 5 Danzig Songs: Soul On Fire Blood And Tears Dirty Black Summer Going Down To Die Ashes ??????In The Background in the Chorus on Soul On Fire, What is doing that Harmony thing? Is it guitar, keyboards, or a couple female's? Dream Band: vocals- Glenn Anzalone guitar- Mike Ness, rhythm and lead guitar- East Bay Ray, rhythm and lead bass- Matt Freeman (from Rancid) drums- Chuck Biscuits A lot of people (mostly Stoners) say that "Cliff Burton is the best bassist to ever exist." Well, I agree that Cliff was real good, but there are better, and there is a world outside Metal. Those Jazz and Funk guy's do superhuman things. But I have to say that in the little punky metal thing, that guy from Rancid and Operation Ivy is real real crazy. Cliff couldn't play that fast. Rancid has 3 albums. The only good one is their 1st one. But, The craziest thing Matt has done is the solo in the first song on Out Comes the Wolves. The rest of the album is a peice of shit. for those of you that haven't heard Matt, go listen to a Rancid album then never do again. Cliff just went bloobala bloobala bloobala. I'm sure Matt liked Cliff many years ago. But think of these two, Matt and Chuck together. Wow. Is it true Kirk Hammet lives in Walnut Creek California? Because I liver 20-25 Minutes from WC and I would like to infiltrate his home and steal his horror collection when he's out on tour or something. I got some yellow Marshmellow Peeps today. ------------------------------ From: WOLFER138@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:41:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: some shit >I've decided to go ahead with my plan to put together a Bible >tribute tape. The rules are simple, anyone that sends me >something is on it. If you send me 10 songs, 10 songs are >on it. Whenever I get enough material, I'll make them up and >probably sell them for $4. I have been sending our demo out >to people for $4, cause it costs about $2.50 to send and $1.50 >for the tapes, so this should be right around that as well. I plan >on calling it "From Hell They Came...," after one of the new >songs by the Misfits. Any band can do any song or songs that >they want. If there's 15 Last Caress' then there's 15 Last Caress' Ok we cant have two tribute tapes but lets try to get something good out but not totally pro. Lets try to put out on CD? >From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marscano >Subject: Wait a minute... >Psycho78, you wrote: > "This is concerning the Black Duck's comments concerning >racisim in rap music. He contends there is none. This is about the >most absurd thing I have ever heard. Has anyone out there ever >noticed that in rap video's the white guys, if there are white guys, ................ .............. This shit is what is fucking the bible to shreads. this can be an email!!!!!!!! Come on man! ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:29:16 -0500 Subject: keith moss; why don't you and az both work on the misfits tape you guys wanted, and make it an even bigger tape?! possibly a multi-tape effort if it becomes that big?! Sean ------------------------------ From: Dominic Agostini Subject: Bullshit in the bible Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:09:31 -0500 >From CG "My vote is that Mark delete any post that is not related at all." I agree with CG. This bullshit on the bible has to stop. I don't read the bible just to hear all the bullshit arguing or bands that have nothing to do with the Misfits past or present. I realize Mark has more important things to do than screen all the messages that he get for the bible so, if you want to post the bible be a fucking adult and stay within the topic range that the bible was intended to be in. Get you heads out of you asses. Dominic ------------------------------ From: RChamb6488@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:39:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Misfits things for Mac I have made Some punk icons, there are bands like the MISFITS, and BLACK FLAG. And I also have made up some Start-up Screens of the Misfits Fiend Club, and some other bands too. I'm working on a Misfits Font right now. If any one wants any of this stuff E-mail me. Oh yea, this stuff is for Macintosh. ---RChamb6488@aol.com--- ------------------------------ From: "Daman Adlam" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:41:35 BST Subject: Misfits covers in manchester, england Fiends, Anyone interested in a Misfits covers band in Manchester, England. I've previously been in punk bands (incl The Dogs Bollocks in Sheffield) and am interested in hearing from any similar minded fiends in Manchester. Image is not important, or talent for that matter. Daman "As long as there's sex and drugs I can do without the rock'n'roll" ------------------------------ Date: Tue Mar 11 01:45:59 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #306 the new misfits don't collect skulls anymore. they collect religious artifacts. hehe. incidententally i bought the Flesh Eaters "Forever Came Today" 12in today just because it was on Ruby and I figured there might be some promo material for the Walk Among Us release in it. No dice, but it is JRR 805, one after Walk Among Us. It did have a T-Shirt flier with stuff like the Germs, Decline, Fear, Blasters, etc on it.Neat neat. The fuckers cost $10 ppd though (82!). --- --------------==============================------------------ Got up this morning to make some coffee; Everything sucks today. allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: 11 MAR 97 09:25:03 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: my posts have the best grammar and spelling! Initium9 said -> >Gdansk (Danzig), a port city in Poland, has a population of 461,700 (1993 >est.). The city lies at the mouth of the Vistula River on the Baltic Sea; >the surrounding land is low-lying, and both water defenses and dock basins >were easily carved from the soft alluvium. >Could he have gotten his name from this? Yes, this is where he got his name from. Danzig is the name of the city when in German hands, Gdansk (pronounced Ga-Dan-sk) when its in the "rightful" Polish hands. I have been there several times and it is a pretty cool town. Alot of Germans do vacation there and there are alot of cool bunkers and shit leftover from the war to go exploring in the Westerplatte area (or at least there were in 1980 last time i was there). Nicholas Brown said "hey just released Earth A.D. on cd about a month ago didn't they? I saw it in a couple of record stores so it must have been new." Earth AD was re-released in Nov on '96 on Caroline. The original CD release happened several years earlier on the Plan9 label and was gold toned CD that is actually quite a collectors item. Kaye Elde said "I think that one dude who wants to make a Misfits Bible Tribute tape is smart," Thats the most accurate thing anyone has ever said here!!! (no offense mark) :) AZ ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:56:15, -0500 Subject: 4 Hits From Mars... Just got my copy of 4 Hits From Mars. Now I'll take my turn at reviewing the E.P. First of all, though, I'd like to say thanks to Jake Starr for going through the trouble of putting this together. It's a professional looking production, not to mention the low cost. For 4 bucks you can't go wrong. Anyway, all the bands were great. These four songs get much more play than the entire Violent World Tribute. They are more interesting too. You can tell that the people performing the songs are real fans. I would have to say that my favorite would be Ripsnorter with Skulls. They definitely get that classic "Misfits" sound. Cool vocals. Running a close second is Undermine with Die Die My Darling. The other bands, the Idiot Police with We Are 138 and Silent Noise with Horror Business, also do a great job. If I got to pick the lineup for the Violent World Tribute, these four bands would be first in line. ...Marino ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:59:00 -0500 From: SASADD Subject: my sweet little roxanne Has anybody heard of the band my sweet little roxanne? They did most of the soundtrack for Class of Nukem High II (the first one was better), and I thought they sounded pretty good. Yeah, that song by Jughead's Revenge does suck. When I first heard it I though "hey, london dungeon, cool" then he started singing different lyrics. They gave credit for 1/2 the song to "leiber-stoller", whoever that is. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:43:38 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Small amount of stuff for sale or trade I was cleaning my room and so far I've come across 14 items I don't want. I figured maybe some of my people might be interested. So here it is, it's not that long. Make an offer I guess. It's stuff I don't want so probably no one else will. Invaders From Mars 1953 VHS tape No cover $10.00 Bloodfeast/Return Of The Fly copied onto tape $5.00 Possibly for sale Star Wars Trilogy Digitally remastered released 1995 $30.00 brand new, each movie watched once or twice. CD's Siouxsie and the Banshees- Superstition Screeching Weasal- Kill The Musicians Jello Biafra with NomeansNo Overwhemling Colorfast- 2 Words The International Beat- The Hitting Line Voodoo Glow Skulls- Who is this is Mash it Up '93- More ska and bluebeat boston style The Replacements- Sorry Ma Forgot To Take out the trash (1st album) I have the Rare And Elusive 2 tone Dance Craze movie. Does anyone want a copy? This wasn't a fat list so no one should be mad. I'll do more shirts today. :) LP's Madness S/T w/Our House Madness 7 Madness Absolutely Madness Mad Not Mad Madness Keep Moving ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:00:20 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: another strange sighting ...sort of I know my last sighting wasn't what you guys define AS a Misfits sighting as, but it has to do with them, and I could give a shit what you think. Here's another strange thing I saw, this time in a fitting place - a mortuary. I went on a field trip to a mortuary Tuesday, and they showed us the room where many coffins are. Looking around at the different prices and styles, I noticed something. It caught my eye. The style of coffin was called, believe it or not, Lodi. It was around $2,000 dollars. A coffin type named Lodi. I guess I have my coffin picked out already. If you thought that was a dumb sighting, than maybe it's time you report one that hasn't been posted a hundred times. "Let those bastards believe" -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:10:08 -0500 From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: "From Hell They Came..." Hey, Myself and AZ have decided to collaberate on the Bible Bands Tribute, so that we have one cohesive package. Therefore, anyone wanting to contribute anything to the project can address either AZ or myself. One change to the project, however, is that AZ has requested that those submitting tapes try to make the recordings have as good as a sound as you can. I.E.- try to record them on at least a 4-track. If this is not possible, still send your tape in and we'll see what we can do. As it stands now, we have a lot of bands signing up and would ask that you send your tapes in A.S.A.P. That way, we can get this out quickly. Also remember to include any other info you have, as we intend to include a bio as well. Please send tapes to: "From Hell They Came..." C\O Keith Noss 61 East Duncan St. Columbus, Oh. 43202 Or e-mail me at: knoss@iwaynet.net or AZ at: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Thanks, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: SHEENA9@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:44:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: proud to be a Fiend First of all, I'd like to say to Emily that if I thought the subject of Glenn's hair was really that ridiculus I wouldn't have wrote about it. I think the subject completely relevent just as you do. Don't be so hasty with your assumptions, especially people you don't know. Anyway I have a cool story, well at least it was cool to me and my friends. I went to see Metallica last Friday (yes, it was awsome) and out of no where in the middle of the concert I thought of thier remake of "last caress" and I said to my friend "wouln't it be cool if they played "Last Caress". Then she said "Yeah it would be but they probably won't". Then a few songs later they played it! It was insane my friend Terri and I screamed louder for that than any other song, and everyone around us had no idea what we were freaking out about, but we didn't care were proud to be Fiends! That's All, Megan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:17:56 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Just plain stupid bullshit... Hello fiends... first things: well i see the bible was a little interesting and that CG even came play. I agree that there is a lot of bullshit on the bible. The flaming is pathetic, the hate shit lasted a little too long. But, there is no real way to keep the bible pure Misfits. we would be dead in the water cause what do you talk about when nothing is happening with the band and those related. There have been no Danzig reports of late, Misfits are not on tour yet, Bobby is the only one with something new out. We already did the reviews of Violent World which only turned out to be a flame fest. so what do you do, stop the bible cause there is no new fiendishness to talk about? I try to keep new stuff for Misfits 101 with adding on the record conventions coming up, and listing new contacts for vinyl for sale. But than what? I think what has been the problem and what drove people away is the constant flaming and hate. its as if fiends blow up on the stupid little miss understandings, and turn around and flame someone over it. Emily just jumped in defence of her going to her prom based on something i said. but if she read the original post about filming a movie of all fiends at a prom, and i commented "Bible member fiends at a prom, that is truely a scary thought. especially making a movie out of it. Would that make Patricia and CG prom queen and king? she would have never defended the fact that she went to her prom. I have been flamed for the most stupid shit in 150+ bibles, and its a joke half the time. though some topics come on to the bible that just don't belong. and the fiends who post them can't say they don't know any better. no fiend wanted to sit and read about Skrewdriver for a couple weeks, or satanism. or hear Blag flame Bobby and myself for a month. So, what's to do about this situation? think about what you are posting on the bible. if you have a problem with someone, e-mail them. if its a topic that has nothing at all to do with the bible in anyway, contact CG and Denmom, OM is there for that purpose. i think we could get around this problem, without having to make Mark take on the role of BIG BROTHER. oh, The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano, i know you mean well and are trying to get your point across, but please find a new topic to take on, this is just way to much. plus i don't need to be reminded who hates the jews, i know that way to well. Mike, nice song, i could just picture Glenn Danzig wearing mouse ears and holding a balloon. ;) Misfits 101... Stuff to buy... well i got some more replies in my search, and this is what is up for sale. Flipside Records and Tapes in NJ (120 Wanaque Ave. Pompton Lakes, NJ 07447) Earth AD $11, LOB $11, Die Die $8, Evilive $11, collection 2 $11, Samhain Novemver Coming Fire $15, Danzig Black Aria $15, 4P $10, and some bootlegs which are a little pricey. oh, also if you can find this. EVB gave me some info on the Danzig Sacrafice 12" promo. "according to Jim "Foetus" Thirwell they only pressed like 100 of these for club DJs only so they are very rare." She got one, and i got one from the same place. though mine was the last one they had in stock. so if you want this you are going to have to do some major searching. as usual if i hear anything for sale i will post it, and fridays bible will have the convention listings. which i see Jess did very well at the one he went to. Till friday. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Bible #307 Bootlegs and stuff Earth AD gold CD award CD's, Boots, tribute female vocals, magazine i/vs Some of the good stuff... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:07:20 PST Subject: TIMES SQUARE From: undead@juno.com (bobby steele) After a slight delay, due to illness, the first batch of TIMES SQUARE CD's were sent out this week. If you sent in your order during February, you should have your CD in a few days. If you don't have it by next Friday - email me so I can see what's wrong. We're starting to get airplay in the New York area. WFMU / WFDU / WNYU and WESU have already added LEARN IT to their playlists. Also net-radio station CRUX has added it. You can listen to them at http://www.crux.org. If you live in the New York / N.J. / Connecticut area, call these stations and request the TIMES SQUARE CD. If you haven't signed up for our mailing list, or if you've changed your address - email me at UNDEAD@JUNO.COM with your name and email address. We can't accept foreign orders anymore. Our scumbag bank is charging us $5.00 for every foreign check we deposit - so we're losing money. We'll be looking for a new bank, and if we can find one that's not gonna squeze our money out of us - I'll let you know. We will be looking for a foreign distributor to buy them from us and sell in Europe, and we may be gettinga licensing deal in Canada. To Canadian fiends; we've been offered a few shows in Toronto, Quebec City, and Montreal for late May or June. I'll let you know how this all works out. Maybe they'll even let Dave in the country this time . . . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:08:39 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: stuff SASADD said: >Yeah, that song by Jughead's Revenge does suck. When I first heard it I >though "hey, london dungeon, cool" then he started singing different >lyrics. They gave credit for 1/2 the song to "leiber-stoller", whoever that is. I have no idea what song you are talking about but..... Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller, inducted into R'n'R Hall of Fame 1987. Penned such classic tunes as: Hound Dog, Jailhouse Rock, Love me Tender, You're so square (baby I don't care), Charlie Brown & Save the last dance for me. Later in their career they went on to form Red Bird records featuring groups like the Shangri-las ("Leader of the Pack) & the Dixie Cups ("Chapel of Love", "Aiko Aiko") Leiber & Stoller *are* one of the greatest songwriting teams of all time. In my book they rate right up there with Burt Bacharach & Carol Bayer Sager. How does this all fit in with Glenn Danzig? Well, SASADD's post left me feeling like he was saying, "what, are they crazy everybody knows that's a Glenn Danzig song." Correct me if I'm wrong. What, do you kids think that Glenn has the corner on every original riff that's ever been played? Glenn was influenced by a multitude of artists. Back in the late 70's Glenn hung out at the Punk Magazine offices (this info comes from Denmom) They listened exclusively to WCBS FM, the NYC oldies station. One of Glenn's favorite programs was Don K. Reed's "Doo Wop Shop." Musicians (as a whole) will always fall back on what influenced them during their formative years. Glenn's influences? R'n'B, Doo-wop, in particular Elvis & Roy Orbison. In later years ie: Punk, Listen to Wire's "Pink Flag" album, Glenn obviously borrowed heavily from that. It's not stealing, it's flattery. The Riff throughout 'London Dungeon' could be just about any leiber/stoller song slowed way down. I'm sure that this is what Jugheads Revenge is referring to. For you musician types out there, Leiber/Stoller practically invented that little half-step slide up to the tonic, (or at least put that rock-a-billy style on the map) 'ala "You're so square", by Elvis or "Something Else," by Eddie Cochrane (Later covered by the Sex Pistols; note* something else was written by Eddie Cochrane, I'm using it to illustrate a point). It's songs like those that were the building blocks of all early punk rock. Why? Because that's what the punkers parents were into, that's what they heard while growing up. I'd like to mention something at this point: Somebody a while back posted something about the "Iron Cross." Someone else posted a history of the Swastika, inferred that the Swastika & Iron Cross are the same. No one corrected this, and it spurred a full blown discussion about Nazi's et cetera. Well just to set the record straight the Iron Cross is the Highest Honor that can be given to a German soldier, it has nothing to do with Swastikas. The cross's equivalent would be the Congressional Medal of Honor, or the Order of Lenin. Nuff said... ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ "...Baby I don't care if you throw all the ice in the world you're paying five bucks and I'm making 10,000 So Screw Ya..." - Pop The Crimson Ghost - othello@magicnet.net Denmom (Patricia) - desdmona@magicnet.net -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:52:51 -0800 (PST) From: "ADAM R." Subject: Violent World and other things Well, I got my copy of Violent World and I think it is pretty good. The only songs I really didn't care for were "20 Eyes" and "London Dungeon". I thought NOFX's version of "Last Caress" was pretty funny. Everyone who probably hates this version probably has never heard NOFX beforeor they already hate them. Oh, well I give it an A. One more thing, a friend gave me his DOYLE FAN CLUB poster and when he got it in the mail back in '88, it was folded up and put into one of those big envelopes. I was wondering if anyone out there has any tips on how to get those damn creases out of it. I have it hanging on my wall, and it looks pretty awfull with all those creases in it. If anyone can help me out, I would be eternally grateful. Oh, I WON'T SELL THIS POSTER either. Gracias.... ADAM R. areygers@chapman.edu http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4165/ http://www.chapman.edu/students/areygers/ ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Who Is This Person? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:07:35 -0500 I was wondering who George Germain is, and what was his relation to the Misfits? I saw that he was the original owner of the master "Teenagers From Mars" acetate and also still owns one of the four other "Teenagers From Mars" acetates. Plus, as long as we are talking about the "Teenages From Mars" acetate, we all know that one of them originally went to Max's Kansas City jukebox. My question is how in the world did it play? I was always under the impression that acetates were made of soft wax whose grooves wore down after being played a few times. Wouldn't that particular acetate be totally shot now? Later...Mark B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:02:17 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Sacrifice Single On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Tammy S. wrote: > > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:17:56 -0500 > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) > Subject: Just plain stupid bullshit... > > Hello fiends... > > Misfits 101... Stuff to buy... > > oh, also if you can find this. EVB gave me some info on the Danzig > Sacrafice 12" promo. "according to Jim "Foetus" Thirwell they only pressed > like 100 of these for club DJs only so they are very rare." > She got one, and i got one from the same place. though mine was the last > one they had in stock. so if you want this you are going to have to do > some major searching. No you don't! I had some extra time on my parking meter in downtown Ann Arbor and strolled into a used record shop on Liberty Street and was able to pick up the same said 12" promo single for $3. I'm assuming it's the white label, blank jacket, DJ record with a sticker in the upper corner that says "remixes by Jim "Foetus" Thirwell" or something to that affect. I called up Glenn Danzig and invited him over to count the grooves on the record with me, but he said he was too busy. Oh well. :) Seriously, I happen to like the mixes by Foetus (I wasn't too keen on the ones he did for The The on 'Dogs of Lust' and thought the NIN 'spriral stuff was so-so) on Sacrifice. I am wondering if there are any PIG (Raymond Watts of KMFDM fame) fans out there who think that his type of influence would be much better, especially for Danzig 'Sinister Industrial' side... For those who have no idea what I'm talking about, pick up Pig's "Sinsation," which reminds me of a cross between Danzig's "Black Aria", Leatherstrip's "Serenade for the Dead" with guitars and Raymond, of course. .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~snook `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:07:09 -0500 (EST) From: Emily <02459@udel.edu> Subject: Bible #307 Tammy, About the prom thing... I did read the post you were referring to, and I was joking in my response to what you said. I sometimes get into trouble because my sarcasm doesn't always carry over too well in written form. Sorry. E ------------------------------ From: BJSchuller@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:43:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: The 7 Deadly Sins for Fiends Greetings and salutations fellow fiends, I stated in bible #307 that I used to be in the army. While I was there I met Fiend138, my best friend and co-conspirator. Neither of us knew the 'fits had re-formed, and we were the only fiends in our area. Anyway, one day when we were bored at work we came up with "The Seven Deadly Sins", I figure the rest of you fiends out there might get a laugh out of it. THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS 1. Thou shalt not interrupt a MISFITS song at any time, for any reason. 2. Thou shalt not precede a MISFITS song with a suck song. 3. Thou shalt not follow a MISFITS song with a suck song. 4. Thou shalt not play a suck song at a higher volume while a MISFITS song is playing. 5. Thou shalt not mention THE MISFITS in the same breath as a suck band. 6. Thou shalt not degrade or compromise a MISFITS album, tape, or CD. 7. Thou shalt never forget that THE MISFITS rule above all other bands. *NOTE When referring to a "suck song" a "suck song" is any song deemed sucky by a fellow fiend. Anyone who commits a sin is subject to a punishment deemed app- -ropriate by fiends (ie. death, dismemberment, barry manilow, etc.) Hope you enjoyed them, until next time. The Rat Bastard and Fiend138 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:46:17 -0700 (MST) From: Nicholas B Brown Subject: Maybe im an idiot but... To SASADD: I saw you mention the Jughead's revenge cover of london dungeon. You seemed puzzled about the credit to "leiber-stoller" and i just thought i might be able to help. I may be way off with this, but who they are referring to is Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller. These guys are just songwriters who have been around for quite a while. If im not mistaken, you can look on any Elvis Presley record and you will more than likely see their names in the credits. Another little interesting piece for you, if you look on the back of Danzig's "thrall-demonsweatlive", leiber-stoller are in the credits for the song "trouble". Just thought i would put my two cents worth in... Nick ------------------------------ From: "forever kimona's guy" Subject: I beg your fucking pardon? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:11:02 -0500 In Misfits Bible #307, Neil McAllister put his foot in his mouth when he said: > For the last time, this is the Misfits Bible, not alt.biggiesmalls.dead.fat.fuck!!! At this time I'd like to PUBLICLY thank you for the bigoted, ignorant, assholian remark you made after YOU promised to drop the subject. I was only tying up loose ends and didn't expect to be writing such a remark after all. I am now even more determined to repsond to any ignorant/bigoted/racist remarks anyone makes in here, so if you really want this thread to end, JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CJ Marsicano ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:03:08 +0100 From: Roland Carlsson Subject: The victims,The Undead;Kryst the Conqueror I=B4m interested to buy recordings with The victims,The Undead and Kryst = the conqueror. If you wanna sell anything to me,mail me at "roland.carlsson@hks.se" Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rule= s! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rules= ! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! Misfits rules= ! Misfits rules! Misfits rules! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:38:09 -0800 From: Clayton Long Subject: misfits bible. I would just like to say two things: 1)About the "bullshit" pertaining to GG Allin or nazis, I think that this is just about as relevant as Glenn Danzig's receeding hair line or Glenn Danzig in Disneyworld. If you don't like what is said, skip it. You don't have to read it. Don't try to say that it's Kennedy's obligation to filter the mail. 2) I am looking to start a collection and would GREATLY appreciate any information on the buying of vinyl. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:01:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Stuff Tammy, Is that Sacrifice promo 12" the same as the 12" single (black sleeve, with a hole in the center that you see the label on) or is it something different? I guess that's a dumb question seeing as you specified promo, but you never know. Evilive CD---I thought they were getting rid of the whole "Plan 9" thing and every copy I've seen has "Plan 9" all over it. Also, Henry Rollins has a bit part in Lost Highway, as well as two guys from Marilyn Manson. Rollins has about 4 lines...."Let's see your hands, captain". "What?" "That wife killer looks pretty fucked up" "hahahhahahaha" or something to that effect. If anyone's seen it, I'm interested in what you think it's about, I think I may have figured it out after much pondering. Anyone know when the new Rollins album comes out? Gotta be soon, I heard a new track on the radio. The "From Hell They Came" tape is a good idea, but I think CDs are a bit much, that would be to the fellow who said we should go for CDs. While if you buy 500, they're inexpensive, but I don't think AZ nor Noss are willing to dish out $1100 for this thing. Of course, prices may be cheaper elsewhere. We need more lounge versions of tunes, so get your pencil moustaches on and some chick to throw her underwear at you and start recording! Why is it all the record shows I go to have nothing except Beatles and classical shit? There's this one I went to a few times, and ONE guy has like a King Diamond No Presents 12" and that's about it and maybe a Sacrifice promo CD. Sigh....I need to move east. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:15:49 -0500 From: "Mikey Python" Subject: Crimson Ghost Hi Nope, no "hello there fiends" or anything like that, just a simple "hi." Anyway, this has probably already been posted, so I'm quite sorry if it has... I saw a 2-tape copy of "The Crimson Ghost" at Suncoast Movies. It had all 12 episodes from 1945(?) and it cost like $20.00 So there you have it. Oh yeah, I think the bible tape is a cool idea, as is the horror comic thing with the zombie hunters or whatever. Sorry, I'm into dumb things like that, blame it on my parents. Later Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:42:51 -0800 From: Devilman Subject: VINYL SALE The following are for sale: 12 inch records: Walk Among Us original purple cover - $70 Evilive original german press - $45 Evilive re-issue green vinyl - $40 Evilive re-issue black - $8 Legacy black - $10 Legacy white - $105 Die Die black - $10 Earth A.D. black vinyl - $10 Earth A.D. yellow - $110 Samhain Initium black - $10 Initium red - $110 November Coming Fire black - $10 November Coming Fire orange - $100 Danzig II - $10 Danzig III gatefold (import) - $12 Danzig 4p - $10 7inch singles: Halloween w/ insert - $75 3 hits black/red cover pink label - $75 I did have an auction going but I quickly found out it's a pain...so I apologize but here are what is for sale. Another Devil Denied, DEVILMAN138 ------------------------------ Date: 13 MAR 97 10:44:59 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: From Hell They Came ... indeed Yes folks its true. The Noss and I are collaborating on this tribute tape. Send all artwork, music and other crap to either of these addresses.. "From Hell They Came..." C\O Keith Noss 61 East Duncan St. Columbus, Oh. 43202 or Art Zawodny PO BOX 210 Pluckemin NJ 07978 So get your lazy asses out and record your favorite Misfits tunes. For all you guys bitchin about Violent World and how all the bands on their suck, here is your chance to show otherwise. Learn the 3 chords and pump the tunes out. The sooner we get all the submissions the sooner we can get this out. All bands will get a free copy of the tape. Depending on the final costs to produce the tape may run between $3 and $4 postpaid in the US, overseas might be a little more. Keith and I will keep you posted as things develop. Tommy Victor better look out, cause I'm gonna show him how London Dungeon is done ..... more to follow... On another note, what the hell happened last issue?? 30K? You guys can do better than that! AZ ------------------------------ From: Ryan McCallum Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:52:58 GMT Subject: A long-shot..... Okay, I know this is a bit of long-shot, but is anybody out there going to see the 'Fits in Dublin on April 17th?????? Ryan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:18:57 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: things [misfits] i took a sampling of VW at Tower the other day. oh boy... unless it's a five finger discount, i will not own this CD. even though "return of the fly" was awesome. [bible] with all this smack talking and naughtsie discussion, the "mystery" of 138, "saved by the bell", thx-1138, star wars, dream band/gig/lineup, band promotion, upcoming 'Bible band shows... it's a wonder no one has been trolling on the Bible. thank god. =) (these are things you think about in a very boring electronics lecture...) [16] still looking for info on this band. any one know which issue of MMR or RIP has a writeup on them in it? [tab] mail to ryq@aero.org or msk4m@virginia.edu [danzig's ibanez contract] back near 4p, JC started using Ibanez guitars. on 5, Glenn thanks Ibanez guitars. this looks frightening like an endorsement from Danzig (the band). what are the details of this deal? on the first tape, Glenn swore by his black Les Pauls. now, what does he use in the studio? hmmm... the leading horse is white, the second horse is red the third one is a black, the last one is a green ryq ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:40:23 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: Rare ADAM WEST 7"s if anybody cares, MIDNIGHT RECORDS in nyc has the following out-of-print ADAM WEST 7"s for cheap prices: ADAM WEST-Cough/Cool 7" (Great Misfits Cover! Ltd.100 Only Color Wax) 4.99 ADAM WEST-Sensation 7" (Washington DC Tough Heavy 3 Chord Garage) 3.99 these have been sold out for quite a while and will never be repressed, so dig in if ya want. their e-mail address is midnight@cerfnet.com -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:42:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: Blah.... SASADD sassaid: >They gave credit for 1/2 the song to "leiber-stoller", whoever that is. Ha ha! They wrote a bunch of songs for Elvis! Including, quite ironically, "Trouble." Daniel Herrmann challenged: >If you thought that was a dumb sighting, than maybe it's time you >report one that hasn't been posted a hundred times. Well, their was the one I saw on X-men.... But I hate it when people post these moronic sightings, so if you want to hear about it, email me. D.ETH darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca Check out the official Six Sins Left homepage at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:42:49 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: stuff. Here is another movie to add to the list: WHERE EAGLES DARE (1968) I picked up an Earth AD and DIE DIE 12" for anyone that needs them. --------------------------Question---------------------------------- Does anyone know what's inside the New Evilive CD and LP?? pictures and stuff like that. ..........................Caroline.................................. I beleive Caroline Records is undeserving of having the Misfits. They do not care about putting time into anything. Collection I and II is just a bunch of crap compiled together In no order and they don't tell you where the songs came from. If they wanted to be cool their reissues of old Plan 9 stuff would be colored vinyl. But they suck If they really cared they would do this: "Oh okay, we're gonna reissue Earth A.D. let's go grab the master tape and remix it cuz you can't hear the fucking vocals, and this time around, it'll be good. Nope, they want to put out crap so we'll buy it. They don't care about putting out "good crap" Of course I'm going to buy the new Evilive CD and LP cuz it says Misfits on it. But did they consider something like adding extra tracks or pictures inside? No! The box set was a coffin-of-confusion. Why didn't the put the fucking singles all in order on one disc. We have to skip around the discs and they don't say stuff like which version of Teenagers is off the 7". They were more interested in making that pretty font. Someone forward this to that Tom guy. I'd like to see what he has to say. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:54:05 -0700 From: Bob Doyle Subject: The most fucked up Misfits sighting yet... well here it is, me and my girlfriend were sitting over here on Saturday watching movies and decided to check out what was on the satellite. So flipping through channels there was this movie on with some band playing (the sound was cut off) and in the background was this huge poster of Glenn superimposed over the Crimson Ghost crossing his arms, and the Misfits logo above. It kept flashing to opening credits and the name of the movie was "Some Like It Wet", turns out it was a porno flick! haha I had to laugh at that =] Your Fiend, Bob Doyle Your Fiend, - Bob Doyle - "Give me the fucking beer you punk!" - [Glenn Danzig: Misfits 04/17/82] - PUNQ EWE RECORDS ------------------------------ From: "forever kimona's guy" Subject: That damned number again... Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:27:16 -0500 I was watching Regis & Kathie Lee this morning whilst having my morning coffee, and guess which audience members' number the daily contest winner picked...138. OK, you can go spank now. CJ Carey aka "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ------------------------------ From: "PSYCO78" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:36:40 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #307 WOLFER138, Last issue you accused me of writing stuff that was fucking the bible to shreds. Well, if you look at my post, and the one that the Black Duck made in response, you can see that those two posts pretty much put a close to what had to be said on the subject. I have yet to respond to the guy in private email (which I do plan on doing here soon), but the rest of our conversation will take place in email. If anyone is curious about how the conversation went, check with him becasue I am going to make nothing further of it here on the bible. But the point I am trying to make is that most of the post dealt with my personal experience at a Misfits show this summer, and how it realted to the topic, which was racisim. Another portion of my post brought up the topic of the Misfits making videos, which Im sure could lead to a few Misfits realated posts if people put some thought into it, and the last part of the post dealt with the idea of me looking into getting Crimson Ghost stamps made up. So don't accuse me of fucking the bible up. Most of my post are pretty good if you ask me. And now for a little more on the future of the band. I was watching Much Music yesterday (which I guess would be the Canadian version of MTV, although it is not as brain dead, and anyone who has seen both will admit) and I saw some band doing a live show in the little area they have set up for it. I though to myself, "I wonder if the Misfits will be doing stuff like that?" Can you guys out there picture the Misfits on TV shows, like Conan O'Brien or something like that, doing a short set of say three songs? I can kind of picture it. Geffen has some pull so Im sure they could get on. I can see them doing little sets in the Much Music enviornment (as they call it) to promote Canadian shows as well. I think it will be weird to see them doing interviews and all that stuff too, but I hope Jerry is carefull in what he says. The only thing that freaks me out is MTV. Ive seen it when Ive been down in the states and it is the worst. Ive never seen such a load of shit in my life. If they are going to make video's, I hope and pray that they dont end up in heavy rotation on MTV. That would suck. They should only play them at certian times. Wouldn't it be sad to see a Misfits video followed by a fucking Hootie and the Blowjobs video? I would kick my fuckin TV set in! I really can see them doing little live shows on other music stations though. Like here in Canada they have bands play in the studio all the time. And it's not that contirved bullshit like MTV either. There are real people that come in off the street to check it out and people hang outside the windows. One time Iggy played like that and it was cool. I can see the Misfits doing the same thing, but I think that is as far as it should go. NO UNPLUGGED! That was a joke, so dont freak. Well, that's it. Maybe if everyone posted their opinions on the FUTURE of the band, and what they thing the band should do, we could have some interesting Misfits realated shit to talk about to until the new album comes out. I with they would hurry the fuck up with that! I wonder why it is delayed? I thought that it might have something to do with the video release of the movie Mars Attacks. Do you guys (and girls too) think that Geffen would delay the release of the record to coincede with the release of Mars Attacks on vid? Or is it just delayed for usual reasons? I mean, Mark said that they are already remixing shit or something like that right? Does that mean it is finished being recorded or are they tyring to make it come out at the same time as the tour? Ah fuck it, who cares. I gotta run, I quit drinking so Im going to stay home tonight and figure out what this "must see TV" shit is all about. It better be worth missing a keg party. Later kids Roger ------------------------------ From: Mike Hoffman Subject: Bootlegs and stuff Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:38:14 -0500 i've got some bootlegs i would like to sell and other things if you would like to make me an offer some what close to what i'm asking i am flexiable.... The Misfits "Beware and the rest" CD 20.00 The Misfits "Hittsville '81" Crimson Red Vinyl 12" 20.00 The Misfits " The Shocking Return" CD 22.00 The Misfits "Return of The Fly" 7" Black vinyl 12.00 The Misfits " Die,Die My Darling" Caroline Repressing with barcode added 8.00 Samhain "Initium" Caroline Repressing 10.00 thanks Mike e-mail mhoffman@clab.cecil.cc.md.us ------------------------------ From: BobaIG88@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:13:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Earth AD gold CD I wasn't sure where to send this so I'm sending it directly to you! I wanted to let fellow fiends know that I have a Earth A.D. gold CD that I am auctioning off. There is no min bid, and definitly no high bid! I would be more interested in trading it though for some Star Wars figures from the last series in 1985 (Power of the Force) Luke Stormtrooper,Han Carbonite, Yakface,Imperial Gunner,Imperial Dignitary,EV-9D9,Barada,A-Wing Pilot(or ship). Amanaman,Luke in Battle Poncho(has camo cape),Lando in General Outfit(with brown cape), Tatooine Skiff ( big ship from Jedi,Jabba scene) . From first series, Snaggletooth (in BLUE outfit w/silver boots) Also the Special Edition Luke Jedi (CARDED) from the rerelease of Jedi on 3-14-97 Thank you very much, PS Same offer goes for original Metallica "Garage Days Re-Revisited" CD BobaIG88@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:52:59 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: award congrats to marko for receiving the "Best Punk Site" award from Punx Not Dead. yeeeeeeaaah mark!! ryq ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:45:25 -0500 From: Villnave Subject: CD's, Boots, tribute I'm still making CD's out of tapes, records, cd's... so e-mail if interested.. been making quite a few now.. still $16 I am looking for videos or high quality audio of shows from the blackacidevil danzig tour... especially Buffalo, NY! My trading power is limited, but I am willing to pay cash for quality stuff.. E-mail me if ya got something.. i think the bible bands tribute is a great idea.. I will definetely send in some stuff... here's what I have recorded already or would like to record 1.Halloween 2.The Hunger 3.Some Kinda hate 4.Hybrid Moments 5.Last Caress I'm excited to hear everyone's contributions... til next time Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:39:38 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: female vocals, magazine i/vs >> From: Inzo > ??????In The Background in the Chorus on Soul On Fire, What is doing > that Harmony thing? > Is it guitar, keyboards, or a couple female's? it is females singing "samhain" (pronouncing it in the Celtic "sah-wun" the same way Glenn sings it in that song and in "November's Fire") ...I wonder if it was the same two females credited with the vocals on Black Aria, since Black Aria might have been recorded around the same time, or at least as early as 1989. (Even though it wasn't released until 1992, remember that parts of it are used in the 1989 Danzig home video) as for my (current) favourites; not necessarily in order: MISFITS: "Night of the Living Dead" (7" version = the only version) "Last Caress" (Beware/C2 mix) "Hybrid Moments" (either SA or LOB version) "Return of the Fly" "Astro Zombies" (WAU) "Vampira" (WAU) SAMHAIN: DANZIG: "He-Who-Can-Not-Be-Named" "Deep" "All Murder, All Guts, All Fun" "7th House" "Samhain" "Sacrifice" "Halloween II" "I Don't Mind the Pain" "In My Grip" "Power of Darkness" for those interested, check out the current issues of Livewire Magazine and Hit Parader for some Danzig i/vs. The Livewire has Offspring on the cover, and the Danzig i/v is 4 pages long, including photos. The Hit Parader has only 2 pages on Danzig. Fortunately, however, they included a full 10 pages on that happening, news-breaking band Nirvana, and had their singer on the front cover. Does anyone know if they are touring soon? for those the Hamilton and southern Ontario area, Danzig is also featured in small articles (1 page or less) in "Extreme" (issue 15, winter 1997 - Bush on cover) and "Rhig - In Support of Starving Musicians" (vol.4 no.1 feb-mar/97 -- some goofs at a new-year's party on the cover). Both are available at most record stores -- FREE. I plan to type those and some other articles I have for the WWW page sometime, but it won't be for at least a little while... unfortunately, I can't think of anything to say about GG Allen or any other such losers, so I guess my post will have to be deleted. -b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:49:53 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Some of the good stuff... Hello fiends... first things, not bad Neil, plus some cultures believed that the design also warded off evil. which is amazing to me that it was used to represent an evil group of people. as for the Death Dealer, i think i read or heard somewhere that Glenn wanted or was in the middle of a deal to get it to be a movie. though that would not be for awhile, i think he had a list as long as my arm of things that will be done or try to do. Next, I just got a copy of the new Time Square CD from Bobby, and i have to agree with CG it is great. at this point i have to say that Take Me Back is my fave song running neck and neck with Devil in Disguise. Jill has a great voice. and the songs are tight. if you have not gotten your copy yet contact Bobby cause you are really missing out on some good music. On to, and i'll make this part quick - to one person in paticular, if you have something to say to me say it through e-mail, but don't waste my time by sending your minion. That's bullshit... Jon, you got away cheap on the 12" more than you know. a lot of the old Ruby 12"s go for way more than $10. Misfits 101... Cons and sale. the record store i posted awhile ago Mainly Music still has that Evilive 12" first press black vinyl for sale $14.95, also he's got a Black Aria CD too. i don't have the address infront of me, but call Stephen at 802-257-0881. cons for the 15th and 16th: 15: IN, Anderson - ramada inn - I-69, exit 26, Scatterfield Rd. 10am - 5pm $2. more info - 513-548-8521 IN, Indianapolis - Music and Movie Expo, ramada inn south, 4515 S. Emerson - 10am - 4pm, $3 more info - 317-485-5314 MI, Livonia - elks hall, 31117 Plymouth Rd., 9am - 3pm, $3 810-546-4527 NY, NYC - the inn, 440 W. 57th ST. btw 9th and 10th Ave. 10am - 4pm $5 201-773-6067 PA, Chambersburg, Howare Johnson Lodge. free, 10am - 8pm 717-274-7572 TN, Nashville. Day's Inn -airport, 10am - 4pm - $2 w/ coupon ad, $2.50 w/out 317-882-3378 actually, i'm falling asleep here. if i mention your state and you want to go, contact me and i'll give you the info before saturday and sunday. Memphis,TN; Austin, TX; Houston,TX; Montreal,ON; Denver, CO; Chicago, IL; FT. Wayne, IN; Louisville, KY; Arbutus, MD; Hazelbrook Heights, NJ; Binghamton, NY; Fairview Park, OH; Toledo, OH, Ottawa, ON. also check the weekend section of your local paper. well i hope some of you take advantage of these and everyone have a great weekend. I'm hoping to see (LIVE) the Florida Panthers beat the crap out of the Maple Leafs Saturday night. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Homepage Yet another strange sighting (sort of) Stockholm concert April 27th stuff, SWEDES LOOK HERE Out of Hand... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:43:59 -0500 From: PRH Subject: happy b'day,.man o'steele! yup its that time again...Bobby Steele's birthday! you'll be thrilled to know that last year I sent him a copy of the VHS Dumb and Dumber and a book about the life of the woman who considered him the bane of her existence...Nico, the formerly gorgeous blonde chanteuse from the Warhol era Velvet Underground Nico. (for you old foreign movie buffs, you'll find her in 'La Dolce Vita' as the bored Teutonic model.(roman a clef, if you ask me...).The book is called either "the end' or 'Nico, the Last Bohemian' by James Young. Look for it at Barnes and Noble knock off bookstores. Anyway, its time for Denmom to pull out her scrapbook of memories and think back aways....hmm, favorite memory of Bobby? hadda be puking on John Lennon's shoes at the Mudd Club's Rock and Roll Funeral on July 4th 1979. A guy comes into the Mudd club who looks like John Lennon, acts like John Lennon, so he must be an imposter, right? Bobby's in dire straits about now, loaded and passing out, so as hostess with the mostest I place Bobby at the table with the imposter. Bobby pukes. "impostor's" shoes are christened with said puke. "impostor" looks chagrined. "Impostor" leaves, promptly in white Rolls Royce limo. It would seem from my employers agitated beratings that "impostor" was GENUINE ARTICLE! Evidently John Lennon had been asking for months when it would be a good night for him to go to the Mudd club. Lennon was told that this event would be cool for a big star like himself to attend, only to be puked on by a MISFIT! Personally, I thought it was cool as hell, the highlight of my summer. Bobby will have have to tell the story of heckling Nico untill she left the stage in tears, but I can tell you about the time Nico was sitting at the bar at Mudd, (all 250 pounds of her) when Bobby steps up next to her. Meanwhile another Eurocow, Anita Pallenberg* plops herself next to her buddy Nico enclosing the waifish Steele between 500 pounds blubbery teutonic, ex-model, lard. The visual was so amazing I drew a cartoon of it immediately. (Mark can you scan that for the page?) Thank God gravity didn't have it's way or Bobby would have been a greasy pool of blood and leather on the Mudd Club floor. *note Anita Pallenberg was Keith Richard's galpal, mum to his issue, his hosebag for the better part of the popular Stones years. Once beautiful, in '79 another washed up model overweight, on heroin, sitting at a bar. Happy Birthday BOBBY!! Here's a song that Glenn wrote about Bobby in 1979 I'm sure you'll find it amusing. (sing to the tune of "walk like a man") Walk like a gimp talk like a wimp walk with a limp like Bobby Stee-ee-eee-eel Don't give a cent don't care about your rent so walk like a cheap fuckin Jew-ooh (no flames please these are Glenns lyrics- btw Bobby's not Jewish) So anyway, HB BS! love p ------------------------------ From: mk Subject: Re: MB 308 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:14:06 -0500 (EST) First things first... Happy Birthday to Bobby Steele on Tuesday March 18th... Next, Steve Zing still has copies of the most recent Chyna EP available. Remember to get your copy by writing to: Chyna PO Box 948 Lodi, NJ 07644-0948 They're free! > From: Mark Allen Blackman > Subject: Who Is This Person? > > I was wondering who George Germain is, and what was his relation to the > Misfits? I saw that he was the original owner of the master "Teenagers From > Mars" acetate and also still owns one of the four other "Teenagers From > Mars" acetates. Germain was an old friend of the band who supported them financially in the early days. He owns lots of rare Misfits stuff, as well as some of the other acetates. > Plus, as long as we are talking about the "Teenages From Mars" acetate, we > all know that one of them originally went to Max's Kansas City jukebox. My > question is how in the world did it play? I was always under the > impression that acetates were made of soft wax whose grooves wore down > after being played a few times. Wouldn't that particular acetate be > totally shot now? Yep, it should be a piece of junk by now, which might explain why it supposedly sold for a dollar at a record sale 10 years ago. > From: ChristoTer@aol.com > Subject: Stuff > > Evilive CD---I thought they were getting rid of the whole "Plan 9" thing and > every copy I've seen has "Plan 9" all over it. Chris - it's all in the discography! Caroline was supposed to release the Evilive CD in spring 1992. For whatever reason, they did not. Therefore the first 16000 copies of the CD press which has finally made it out (as of Tuesday March 11) will have the original inserts (with Plan 9 logo) that were printed back then. > From: Inzo > Subject: stuff. > > ..........................Caroline.................................. > Hey Mike... this is going to be fun. I forwarded your message to Tom B of Caroline as you requested, and he sent me back some notes on his thoughts and comments. I have integrated them into my own post, which follows below. > I beleive Caroline Records is undeserving of having the Misfits. Of course Caroline deserves The Misfits. What other record company would go to the trouble to put out a box set with every recording of a band that had been broken up and forgotten for almost 15 years? Without Caroline, who knows what Misfits stuff would be out there - certainly nothing any later than 1986 when Glenn put Collection I out. > They do not care about putting time into anything. > Collection I and II is just a bunch of crap compiled together In no > order and they don't tell you where the songs came from. Well now, keep in mind that Glenn himself compiled and organized both Collection I and Collection II. These were the last two Misfits projects he was involved with. Caroline acted only as the distributor for those albums and at the time, had nothing else to go with. Blame Glenn for the crap. > If they wanted to be cool their reissues of old Plan 9 stuff would be > colored vinyl. But they suck Recall that Collection II came out on 3 colors of vinyl and that the original Evilive reissue came out on green vinyl. Violent World also came out on colored vinyl. People would complain about it either way... the idea with Evilive was to just quietly reissue it on vinyl and CD for those who want it. > If they really cared they would do this: > > "Oh okay, we're gonna reissue Earth A.D. let's go grab the master tape > and remix it cuz you can't hear the fucking vocals, and this time > around, it'll be good. Woah. Imagine the uproar from the thousands of fans who have been listening to Earth AD for about 15 years - suddenly there would be yet another version to listen to and purchase. All the people who just bought the box set would be equally pissed off that there would be yet another item NOT on the box set. Remixing the album simply was not a possibility for Caroline. Their plan was to simply get the CD out as a separate release for those who missed it the first time around. > Nope, they want to put out crap so we'll buy it. They don't care about > putting out "good crap" What? Tom B has worked his ass off to give us the Box Set, Violent World, and some other stuff. Even if you don't like those things, at least you have the option of getting them. > Of course I'm going to buy the new Evilive CD and LP cuz it says Misfits > on it. But did they consider something like adding extra tracks or > pictures inside? No! Does Caroline have extra live tracks or pictures? No! Evilive has been issued exactly as Glenn laid it out and compiled it, and as far as Earth AD is concerned, there are no missing tracks to even consider. There are plenty of live bootlegs out there, but that doesn't mean that Caroline has the master tapes for them (they don't, by the way). There are also several demo sessions currently only available as bootlegs because the master tapes have been lost, although not by Caroline. Caroline refuses to work off of inferior quality recordings (such as a 6th generation tape of a mystery demo). > The box set was a coffin-of-confusion. Why didn't the put the fucking > singles all in order on one disc. We have to skip around the discs and > they don't say stuff like which version of Teenagers is off the 7". They > were more interested in making that pretty font. As far as I could tell, the stuff from the box set was pretty well labelled. Remember that the Caroline people are not "Misfits experts." They were simply compiling everything that Glenn had given them. They put out what they had and what they knew, based on what Glenn had provided them with. Have you forgotten that the box set contains plenty of unreleased pictures, a chronological sessions disc, recording info on Static Age (in the Static Age booklet), a discography of colored and scarce vinyl releases, and liner notes from someone who was around at the time (Eerie). > Someone forward this to that Tom guy. I'd like to see what he has to > say. I did forward it to Tom, and I can't say it cheered him up. Like I said above, he gave me his comments, and I have integrated them into this post. If this comes off sounding pro-Tom or pro-Caroline, that's because it's supposed to. Tom is my friend, and I know a lot of what he had to go through to get this stuff out. There are tons of details left out of the picture that most people aren't aware of, including contracts, the various former members he had to deal with, the lack of detailed records that were kept, etc. He has done his best to put out stuff that fiends can enjoy... I know this because I've spent hours talking to him on the phone and in person. If you are confused about all the different Misfits recording sessions and stuff, I have compiled a master list of them on the web page in part 4 of the Misfits discography on the web page. Mark ------------------------------ Date: 14 MAR 97 12:22:30 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Danzig and the Les Paul Mr Hinjos said " on the first tape, Glenn swore by his black Les Pauls. now, what does he use in the studio? hmmm..." Glenn may have sworn by his Les Pauls, but if you look closely, I don't believe it was a Les Paul in his hands in that video. Notice the following: The guitar appears to have no carved top (i.e. a slab body like a Telecaster or a SG) The only Les Pauls with a slab body that had a single cutaway were Les Paul Specials. Les Paul Specials did NOT have humbucker pickups like his did. Les Paul Specials did not come in black as a standard color (they could be custom ordered that way). All Les Pauls except for the Custom and the transition to SG models have Les Paul on the headstock. Glenns guitar does not appear to say that. My theory is: a) the guitar is not a Les Paul, but one of those cheap Les Paul knockoffs made by Gibson in the early 80's (like a Challenger) b) its a Les Paul Special that was modified to shit. I will watch that video again this weekend to try to bolster my claim..... The endoresment think with Danzig reminds me what I saw on the Ramones "Mondo Bizarro" album where it says 'Johhny and CJ use Mosrite guitars and basses". The only time CJ ever had a Mosrite bass in his hands was for the video for Poison Heart. Every other time I have seen him (and I saw them alot) he played several different Fender P-Basses. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:51:27 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: 138 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8...!! I SAW 138, SAN FRANCISCO'S OWN MISFITS/SAMHAIN/DANZIG COVER BAND, AT THE BOOMERANG ON HAIGHT ST. ON WEDNESDAY THE 12th AND THEY ROCKED!!!!!! Rocked? Shit, they were like a fucking four-man quarry! Your drooling grandma in her chair has nothing on 138. One tune can stop any baby from crying. Their music will turn cocaine into crack, instantly! Check their Web page at http://www.138.org for details of when they'll be coming to YOUR TOWN -- armed with a "Coffin of Confusion" full of songs THEY NEVER WROTE!!! Check it out!!!! Somebody owes me a beer. Can anyone tell me if the "Shocking Return" bootleg CD has the "Shocking Return" artwork on it? I know the "Blood" CD has it... ChristoTer@aol.com: As far as record shows in your area having nothing to do with the Misfits -- almost all the Misfits weird stuff I ever got, I bought at the KFJC record swap. KFJC is a college station based out of Los Altos Hills, CA... so you can see where they attract more of a college-type crowd, and so that's the type of records that show up a lot at their record swap, which they do maybe a couple times a year. The point is you gotta look for something that seems catered to your market, rather than just anything that says "record collector". NEIL ------------------------------ From: WOLFER138@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:53:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: BIBLE >WOLFER138, > Last issue you accused me of writing stuff that was fucking the >bible to shreds. Well, if you look at my post, and the one that the >Black Duck made in response, you can see that those two posts pretty >much put a close to what had to be said on the subject. I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT PART WHERE YOU WERE ADRESSING HIM. IN THE LAST BIBLE IT WAS ONLY 30K BUT VERY FEW ON NO SHIT POSTS. LETS KEEP IT GOING. IF A BAND WANTS TO ADVERTISE ON THIS LET THEM IF YOU DONT LIKE IT SKIP THROUGH IT. >i think the bible bands tribute is a great idea.. I will definetely send in >some stuff... here's what I have recorded already or would like to record >1.Halloween >2.The Hunger >3.Some Kinda hate >4.Hybrid Moments >5.Last Caress COOL A NEW MISFITS COVER. SOUNDS INTERESTING SEAN ------------------------------ Date: 14 MAR 97 16:00:57 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Caroline Inzo said "I beleive Caroline Records is undeserving of having the Misfits. They do not care about putting time into anything. Collection I and II is just a bunch of crap compiled together In no order and they don't tell you where the songs came from." Collection I was a originally a Plan 9 release, distributed by Caroline, and was really, if I'm not mistaken, designed but Glenn Danzig. You have no one to blame but him for not putting any info on that album. then you proceed to say ""Oh okay, we're gonna reissue Earth A.D. let's go grab the master tape and remix it cuz you can't hear the fucking vocals, and this time around, it'll be good." Personally, I prefer to hear the albums how they were originally done, no matter how bad the mix might be. Chances are Caroline probably only has the 2 track master rather than the 8 or 16 track which would mean they couldn't remix it. I may be wrong and I'm sure Mark knows if they have the original multi-track tapes. and then finally "The box set was a coffin-of-confusion." I never really looked into it that deep and I guess you do have a point there. I just know to listen to the Sessions Disc and Static Age if I want to hear songs that I've never heard before. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:00:14 PST Subject: To the guy auctioning! From: Wes Hedger To the guy that fiend867 from aol was selling his stuff to, I'm off aol now and i forgot your email... email with your address and everything again and ill send the money pretty soon I still want that C.H.U.D. video!! F/\/D ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:24:06 -0500 Subject: rat fink and fiend138; commandment #4 says "Thou shalt not play a suck song at a higher volumn while a MISFITS song is playing." -- my only question is WHAT are you doing listening to another song while a MISFITS song is playing?!?! Sean ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:27:50 -0500 Subject: christoter; you say AZ or Noss probably won't be willing to shell out $1100 for CD's... then if we want CD's (which I prefer) then why don't we just take PRE-ORDERS... take pre-orders, pre-payments, and they can always order a few extra just incase someone misses out. Sean ------------------------------ From: SICKELS2220@duq3.cc.duq.edu Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:02:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: happy st. paddy's day Happy St. Paddy's day to all the fiends! My brother has been bitching and moaning cause I won't sell him my Resurrection tour t-shirt. Does anyone know where I can get the no-good-son-of-a-bitch a shirt? Thanks. Down with the IRA, Up with the UDF, Matt ------------------------------ From: "forever kimona's guy" Subject: Rollins Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:48:24 -0500 For those who wondered, Rollins' new album, his first for Dreamworks, comes out on March 25th. All the details, of course, can be found at http://www.two1361.com. Oh, yeah-- that skinny, slightly wild-haired Italian guy that you might see buying the new Mary J. Blige and Biggie Smalls albums along with the new Rollins album will be me. *lol* CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:35:32 -0600 From: punkture Subject: MISFITS BIBLE(band info) Hey I'm just starting to find my way through the violent world known as the MISFITS.I have a craving for knowledge about this band that rules above all else.Can you help a fiend out and give me some info.Like what kind of guitars and amps and musical stuff did the masters of mayhem themselves use?MISFITS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! punkture ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:04:48 +0000 From: "Grimm, John" Subject: JOHN GRIMM For anyone concerned... I've finally dumped that $20 a month aol crap, and get e-mail for free through my job. My new address is jgrimm@moneymailer.com. Use it! GRIMM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:44:32 -0600 From: "bRi@n" Subject: Shades Apart "20 Eyes" Live Dear Gang, I recently went to see the Descendants on their big reunion tour w/ the Suicide Machines and Shades Apart supporting. As most of you know, Shades Apart do a cover of "20 Eyes" on _Violent_World_ but are otherwise an indistinguishably mediocre band. They came out first, bored the pants off everyone in the sold-out crowd, then suddenly went into "20 Eyes"-- and the whole crowd went insane. Rarely have I seen such a complete audience turnaround. From complete lethargy to total intensity and chaos. It's amazing how people seem to still connect so readily with a MiSFiTs song nearly 18 years after it's been written. Mental note: if I ever get a band started, throw in a few MiSFiTs covers if crowd involvement seems lacking. --bRi@n ------------------------------ Date: Sat Mar 15 05:14:06 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: uhhhh Hey guess what. My band Goon Squad got our demo done. Only $2.50ppd and you can get your copy. 3 originals and "Mother" haha. Don't worry we don't make it sound like Danzig or Misfits or Feotus. We're what you call sloppycore/punk/hardcore and shit. Straight outta 319. Imagine Agnostic Front meets Sloppy Seconds meets the New York Dolls. Or whatever. Also, someone mentioned You're So Square and I was just listening to the Buddy Holly version of it thinking that would be an excellent song to do. Anyway LieberStohl definately were a big time influence on punkdum. Oh and bobby steele> just tell the foreign guys to send money orders drawn on banks with a US office in US dollars. --- --------------==============================------------------ Got up this morning to make some coffee; Everything sucks today. allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:21:28 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Danzig endorsements. Wasn't someone complaining about how Danzig claimed he used to always play a Les Paul, but now it seemed like he'd gone with Ibanez because he got an endorsement? Well, check the inside front page of your "Blackacidevil" CD booklet. Right down at the bottom it lists all the endorsements Glenn & co. have gotten: Ibanez, Mesa Boogie, Paiste, Tama, Dean Markley, Dunlop..... and Adidas. Yo! Also check the "thank you" lists at the back of the booklet. You've already complained about what a goofball Joey Castillo looks like for thanking "all my homies"... well check out Glenn. The first five "thank yous" from Glenn are, in order: the managing staff at the comic book company he runs, the managing staff of the record label on which he just signed a 7-figure deal, his lawyer, his lawyer... and his other lawyer. I know who Rob Zombie is, anybody want to take a guess at the rest of the list? NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 15:38:33 -0500 From: William Bartilson Jr Subject: Misfits at formal events Greetings Fiends, I have read with interest some of the recent postings in the Bible starting with the idea of a Misfits style prom movie, and thought I'd share how I made sure the 'Fits were included in my wedding. I took my Collections I cd to the reception and had the dj play "Astro Zombies". This resulted in a mosh pit including all the groomsmen, myself, my bride, and several fiends, all in formal attire, (tux's w/ tails etc.) Many of the older guests were shocked, but that wasn't a bad thing. The Misfits have been a part of my life, and the lives of several of my friends for many years, and I felt that I needed to include them, if only in spirit. Stay Sick! Wolfsblood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:59:28 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #308 > > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:08:39 -0500 > From: Crimson Ghost > Subject: stuff > > What, do you kids think that Glenn has the corner on every original riff > that's ever been played? Glenn was influenced by a multitude of artists. Yeah, I heard Glenn was really into a band called The Adicts. Some guy brought one of their CD's into work and they're great! I now have almost all of their CD's. And you guy's know what The Adicts do? Whoa oh's and Oh oh's and Eye Yeye's. They were an influence probably. > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:38:09 -0800 > From: Clayton Long > Subject: misfits bible. > > 1)About the "bullshit" pertaining to GG Allin or nazis, I think that > this is just about as relevant as Glenn Danzig's receeding hair line or > Glenn Danzig in Disneyworld. How do you figure? What is the relelvence between Glenn and GG? Did GG ever drum for Glenn? Was Glenn ever in a German Army? It is not relevent And I actually wanted to see something happen. Anyone, write lyrics for a song called "I saw Glenn Danzig at Disneyland" It would be FUN. Ms. Beckman had a few idea's Glenn could either get beat up by the 7 Dwarves or he could beat one of them up and take his tights. Write it for fun and post it. I'm going in the studio tonight to record those 4 songs. :P ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 14:03:48 -0800 From: Justin Deming Subject: Re: Tired of people who don't know me dissing me > > *To the Rightous Black Duck* > You forgot the "e", it's "Righteous Black Duck" My bad, homie. ~;^) > > I'm not a big hip-hop fanatic. > Whatever... No, really, I'm not! I swear, I'm not a big hip-hop fanatic! I own one hip-hop album, Arrested Development. That's it! I'm slowly looking into other stuff. Gansta rap sucks, no excuses. '90s false R&B sucks, no apologies. > > I'm white. Two strikes against me? > Mayne one, because I'm not black. Interesting where you cut me off in this reply. I said, "Two strikes against me? Only to the ignorant mind." Anyway, you're not black. Hey, I'm happy for you, really. It makes me feel all gooey for you. I guess I just didn't know that. I made a wrong assumtion. FYI, though, I thought that not because you listened to rap, but because (1) you're the Righteous BLACK Duck (turns out to be a daffy duck reference; like I should've known that off the bat), (2) it became the focus of your life to rally against Skrewdriver fans, and (3) most of all, you made the few-screws-missing statement that racist rap does not exist. > > A few people mention a band called Skrewdriver. The Rightous Black > > Duck, and a few others, go off on this band. > As well as we should.... it's a sore subject amonst some of us... Hey, that's fine. You weren't in any serious wrong at this stage, except for the fact you "went off" on them, "went off" being in the middle school tough-guy way. > Hey, when some racist rap > > group (and they DO exist, > For the millionth fucking time, NO THEY DON'T. You go on to say: Listen, if you can say that and mean that, you're totally, totally crazy. Maybe you don't listen to racist rap, but to say it doesn't exist is like saying... wait, let's not break out any more silly analogies, here. I'll stick with "vinyl records are digital," that was silly enough. Oh, Righteous One, one of my closet on-line friends is a hip-hop DJ and rap historian (he doesn't carry that flag himself, but he seems to be a fountain of info to little ol' me, so I'll give him the title). HE told me about some racist rap groups in a discussion we had. Oh, but what would a black hip-hop DJ know, compared to the All-knowing Righteous Motherfreaking Duck? (Don't take that last sentence as a hostile message.) Also, the definition of "racist" when used with blacks is not clear, due to the egg-shell walking modern society must conform to. > > ...I let myself be subjected to as little (rap) as possible. > --Therefore, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? Excuse the cynicism.... First of all, my hip-hop buddy. Second of all, *sigh*, (here comes a serious skeleton from the closet, which I'm ashamed to admit), around third grade, I was a little gansta rap fool. Thankfully, I grew up and stopped buying tapes with titles such as "White Men Can't Rap." Just because I'm not there now doesn't mean I was never there. (Give me a break, I was a little kid.) Also, in my school and area, the shit is shoved in your face in every public place you can imagine (malls, school parties, not to mention friends' houses, etc.). "As little rap as possible" is still a little too much for me. > Racism is a real issue, it IS immature, and it's also on the same level (if > not higher) as blasphemy. Blind racism is one of the highest forms of ignorance. There are also several other forms of racism. I'm not yet an expert on human mentality, so I use my own terms, including "situation racism," "frustration racism," "pride racism," et cetra, and if they exist in the world at large is unknown to me. One could say that one form of racism is no more justified than another, which seems like a fair statement until you consider that not all things deemed "racist" are indeed truly racist. Anyway, I'm not prepared for a debate on racism, and that just doesn't belong here, anyway. My initial point is that you were the one who acted out in a primitive manner, causing all strife here associated with the topic. > > However, the Rightous Black Duck becomes the Outraged Almighty Rightous > > One, and feels the need to not only flame all Skrewdriver fans, but > > "rally against them" among the BIBLE, AKA intentionally attempt to stir > > up shit. I don't mean to interupt your Rightous, Christian mission to > > alienate these pariahs and bring them to your own justice, but I feel > > the need to point out that YOU are the only one causing problems here, > > and if you're not going to be happy until the evil-doers are gone, it's > > time for you to leave. > First of all, I'm not going anywhere, second of all, racism is a sore spot > with me and it is in my nature to fight racists. I'm not doing anything > wrong. If you think I am, I'm tempted to reconsider which side of the fence > you're on. Oh shit! You might reconsider which side of the fence I'm on? Fuck! I better join your bandwagon now! FUCK NAZIS! FUCK KKK! STIR UP AS MUCH BULLSHIT AS POSSIBLE IN THE MISFITS BIBLE AND WASTE EVERYONES' TIME!!! Seriously, Duck (may I call you Duck?), racism is a touchy subject for most everybody, some more than others (obviously). However, think about what you're actually doing. Are you stopping racism? Are you doing anything against racism? No, you are (in your own words) FIGHTING racism, and you will never resolve anything with such Christian-like confrontationalism. (BTW, recent incidents w/ Pat Boone call for the Christian reference.) Stop and think about what your goals are, and ask if what you're doing is going to help you achieve that. If so, Duck, you have some fucked up goals right now. > > For instance, if you became the "Anti-White Duck," > --- HOLD IT! WHAT MAKES SO SO SURE I'M BLACK??? For instance, Duck. For instance. Okay, to make sure I'm not offending you one way or the other or the other or the other, suppose you became the "Anti-Green Duck." > > You're not simply stating your view, you're flaming them and encouraging > others to flame > > them, get them out of here, etc. Rightous Black Duck, sir, it is YOU > > that is wrong. > No, I am right in this case. The racist shit does not belong in the MB, and > I will comment on such matters if any posts like it come up again. Take > that as a warning. Oh no, now he's warning me! First he might reconsider, and then he's warning me, whatever will I do? My point, Duck, is that you are not commenting in an appropriate manner, you are FLAMING. F-L-A-M-I-N-G! They (the Skrewdriver fans) were talking about a band, not saying, "All niggers everywhere should burn." You go "You racist fucks! Hey, everyone, let's flame them endlessly!" Duck, he's what it comes down to. The 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution protects everyone, including the ignorant, evil, etc. There will always be people in life we cannot stand, but we must always protect their right to do what we can't stand. Why? Because as soon as they become legally censored, someone might come along who doesn't like what you do, say, or believe in. Don't bother saying, "But I'm right," because that won't help you out in some rich snob's (or whoever's) eyes. 2 Live Crew being banned was one of the worst things to ever happen, 1st Amendment-wise. Now, does 2 Live Crew have any artistic value? NO! Are they obscene? YES! But when they were censored, the floodgates could've easily opened, and music as we know it could have been wiped out. How would you like for the Misfits albums to have been banned? Picture a house member getting up and speaking during the who-should-we-censore talks. "... These album, with lyrics such as 'Hack the heads off of little girls and hang them on my wall,' is a horrible effort from a band with no musical talent directed straight at our children. We need to get this off of the store shelves, and we need to do it NOW!" Okay, enough freedom of speech stuff. Listen to the Ice-T song, though. It's actually good! Let me warp speed ahead to another topic. > > dry. you can make them look better cause they were not really racist > when > > they started out. Well, a Skrewdriver fan said that their "racism" or whatever just wasn't an issue they put into their songs, but then something or another happened and they wanted to flaunt it. Perhaps they joined this label and were encouraged to focus on the issue. I don't know, I'm not a Skrewdriver historian, but I have a hard time understanding it when you say Skrewdriver wasn't at all racist at first after you've already called them the lowest form of human life (in so many words). That's a big drop-off, Duck. You're saying they became racist to become POPULAR? Does that seem backwards to anyone else? > And finally, just to clear things up about me. > 1) I am not black. > 2) I am not a homophobe (something it took me all weekend to get into Neil > McAllister's head) > 3) I am not a wanna-be black that wears Jamaician/Ethopian colors and > smokes pot, amd I will take a drug test to prove the latter. > 4) This is the last time I want to hear Skrewdriver mentioned positively in > the MB. Well, too bad, Duck. Your views cannot ever cancel out anyone else's views, no matter who's right or wrong. You can never just ban someone else's beliefs. > 5) AND this is the last time I want to see any racist commentary in the MB. > If I do, ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE. BELIEVE THAT! I beginning to wonder if my posts aren't racist commentary now. After all, you just might reconsider which side of the fence I'm on (*shudder*)! *To Mark* Mark, any news on the title of the upcoming 'Fits album? It changes every so often, so I just thought I'd ask. Oh, and I haven't viewed the Wednesday Bible yet, forgive me if you mentioned it. Do the Misfits still maintain that fiendclub AOL address? I'd like to see the guys come on-line, although I'd imagine Jerry wants to avoid Bobby in a public domain (I'm not taking sides there, don't view the comment like that). Jake, I'd get the 4 Hits From Mars, but I just don't have a vinyl record player of my own yet, and I'm not sure if I should make the investment until I become a hippidy-hopper, and then you'd have to lynch me anyway, and all of the bands from 4HFM that I'd sample would sue me, and I'd suck. BTW, I'm sorry I could never get my Adam West order out to you, but the vinyl situation just became a little much for me. I can't wait for your CD, though! People have been talking about releasing their own Misfits tributes. This sounds like a great idea, but I want it to reach CD! Later, fiends! - Justin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:04:09 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: new rollins band *semi* misfits related: someone asked about the new rollins cd (COME IN AND BURN). i'm not sure if it's out yet, but my friend got me a promo copy two weeks ago, and it's pretty good. so far i prefer WEIGHT, but i haven't really had time to listen to most of the new songs more than once though. there are a couple that are really good right away though: "shame"; "the end of something" ; "saying goodbye again"; "on my way to the cage"; "rejection." if you like previous rollins stuff, you will probably like this cd too. -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:09:29 -0800 From: Justin Deming Subject: London Dungeon - Leiber/Stoller Hey, didn't someone once mention a version of London Dungeon w/ Elvis lyrics (Leiber/Stoller seem to have written many Elvis hits)? Wasn't it supposed to be called "Hellvis" or something? "50 Million Elvis Fans Were Dead Wrong!" - Justin -- Dork: The Home Page http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/ -- The Internet Pro Wrestling Association http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/ipwa/ -- Have any questions about your future? Bring them to: Areturus - St. Rose http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/areturus/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:43:43 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: What I recorded I just got home from the studio. Me and I drummer recorded Halloween, Children in Heat, Devil's Whorehouse, Death Comes Ripping, We Bite, and Horror Hotel. The vocals are a little off on We Bite and Horror Hotel so I don't want them on the comp tape but I will still send them in cuz they're all cool. On Horror Hotel, after the song, the beat for Ghouls Night Out starts and it gets faded out like Mommy and London Dungeon. This was a complete Ad-Lib by me. Horror Hotel was the song I played drums on, I tried to go into Ghouls unplanned but I fucked up, so we faded it out. it's cool. I did two guitar tracks on Whorehouse, and distorted my bass. The Drummer boy sang really well. I will email those guys tomorrow. Guess what time I pulled into the drive way? yep, 11:38 pm. I'm going to send a tape to Bobby too, cuz he will be proud of Children In Heat. to the TAB people, On Children it goes B [C# MINOR] A D B AB you may want to note that the C# chord is Minor BYE ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:11:47 +0800 From: Strych9 Subject: Not Surprised.... In response to CG: > How does this all fit in with Glenn Danzig? > What, do you kids think that Glenn has the corner on every original riff > that's ever been played? Glenn was influenced by a multitude of artists. > Back in the late 70's Glenn hung out at the Punk Magazine offices (this info > comes from Denmom) They listened exclusively to WCBS FM, the NYC oldies > station. One of Glenn's favorite programs was Don K. Reed's "Doo Wop Shop." > Musicians (as a whole) will always fall back on what influenced them during > their formative years. Glenn's influences? R'n'B, Doo-wop, in particular > Elvis & Roy Orbison. In later years ie: Punk, Listen to Wire's "Pink Flag" Y'know this doesnt strike me as all that hard to believe. When my friends and I first started listening to the "Fits", we noticed that a lot of the songs carried what we called, a "Happy Days"(this is not a slant on the music in anyway thats just what we called it for lack of a better title to define the sound), type sound to it, minus the lyrics of course. But as far as the music goes, turn down the distortion a little, slow down the drums, write some lyrics about your summer vacation, then throw on your high school letter men sweater, and you got a suck hop!(grin) As far as the elvis influence goes, "American Nightmare"(even down to the hand clapping in the background) says it all for me.... The Fiend In Malaysia, Strych9 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:00:20 -0500 From: Bill Hanscom Subject: Mommy...backwards? hello fiends, Anybody ever played the version of "Mommy, can I go out and kill tonight" backwards. At the part when Glenn says "can I go out and kill tonight" it sounds like he says "yeah, I just might...and I'll work on it". My cousin told me about this. I just so happened to have a sample of Glenn saying that on my computer, so I put into a sound editting program and reversed it, he does accually say "yeah I just might... and I'll work on it". You should check it out it is very strange. Are there any other song where he says something when it's played backwards? ----------------------------------------------------- Bill Hanscom hanscom@shore.net ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:35:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Evilive To the guy who wanted to know what the insert for the Evilive CD is the Pushead eyeball drawing. Nothing the slightest bit interesting. Oh yeah, for those interested the following bands will have new CDs out on March 25: Rollins Band, Machine Head, Unleashed, and Gwar. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:28:45 -0500 From: "forever kimona's guy" Subject: Re: MB fiends album TO EVERYBODY WANTING GET INVOLVED WITH A MB FIENDS ALBUM: What I'm actually thinking of is MB fiend bands doing their ORIGINAL material. This would probably be more workable than trying to get copyright clearances from ASCAP for 20 Glenn Danzig songs. So far I've only had one or two offers from bands. If you're a MB fiend in a band and would rather show off your original material rather than redoing a Misfits cover, let me know! forever kimona's guy irieduck@ptd.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:07:28 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Grrr...BEWARE I grow tired of asking this. So this will be the last time. Can anyone nudge me in the right direction, I am looking for a Beware bootleg 12", the one that is a replica of the original and is hardly distinguishable from the original. I bet a bunch of you have it and think you have an original :P Someone must have one they don't want or know where I can get one. I think that is all. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:14:10 -0700 From: Opus Subject: look a bit... Okay, I've been holding this in out of fear, but I have to say this... A couple weeks back, people were tearing apart newer punk bands because they were ripping off old school punk bands. Now just look for a second... What are Jerry, Michale, Doc CHUD, and Doyle doing!? They are ripping off Glenn and the Misfits of old. Think about it... Glenn wrote all of the songs and did not want any input from anyone else. Glenn was the Misfits. All that is going on now is Jerry and the newfits are ripping off Glenn and his ideas from 20 years ago! I feel bad for Doyle because I have heard some bad things that would have happened to him had he not gone along with this. Jerry was not the Misfits, Glenn was. For those of you who are now screaming at me and calling me names, just realize that Glenn was the band. The songs came from Glenn. The ideas came from Glenn. I know that Jerry started it with Glenn, but he had no input to what we all liked. Glenn was the Misfits. He made the Misfits. All I am trying to say is don't go off on the new bands and praise the newfits when Jerry is doing the same things... Ripping off an old idea... Michael http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:48:53 -0500 From: Scott Perry Hello, all of you wonderful bible folk. I have been away for a week now on Spring break, and I know that you have missed me (who the fuck is Scott Perry?). I'll ignore that. Anyway, I have one new Misfits sighting. I was watching TV and I saw that some channel (CNBC I think) is now being broadcast in 138 million homes or something. I was amazed. They're everywhere. The second thing I have to say is that I got that copy of the article in the Greensburg Tribune Review about Glenn when he came to Pittsburgh. So if anyone wants a copy of it (to post on Fits' Central, to hang on your wall, to read before you go to bed every night or whatever) then I'll type it up and send it to whoever wants it. All for now Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:13:34 -0500 From: "forever kimona's guy" Subject: Homepage I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ALL MY FELLOW FIENDS TO DROP BY MY LITTLE HOMEPAGE (THE FIRST OF THREE I'M WORKING ON), SIGN THE GUESTBOOK, AND LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS! LET'S SEE IF I CAN MAKE 138 PEOPLE BY 12:01am TUESDAY MORNING! http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html forever kimona's guy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:31:08 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: Yet another strange sighting (sort of) In keeping with my recent string of strange Misfits sightings (or at least words or names that are assocaited with them), I have seen another one. Last night, I was watching The Munsters. It was the episode where Eddie Munster had a friend over, and Granpa turned him into a monkey. Anyways, his friend's name was Googy. Also, after his friend pissed him off, Eddie called Googy "ratfink". No shit. I know this is stupid, but at least I'm not cluttering the Bible with unrelated shit. -Tim "Herrmann Munster" ------------------------------ From: Thomas.Envall@emw.ericsson.se Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:40:41 -0800 Subject: Stockholm concert April 27th Hi fiends. Just a short note about the European tour. I'm happy that the Stockholm concert got rescheduled to Studion from the bancrupt and closed-down Gino. Studion is a much better venue. And I'm also happy the Fits are doing 2 shows that night. And what really makes me euphoric is that I bought my tickets last friday! Now I'm counting down to April 27th. Info to other Swedish fiends: tickets are available at the Mega (Sergels Torg) and probably also at Pet Sounds and at Studion (in the bar). There's a record fair in Solna-hallen (in Stockholm north suburbs) on April 26th, can be worth checking out. All thee best & ghoulish/ Thomas Envall, Sweden. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:05:31 -0500 From: Scott Perry I was thinking about what someone said on Friday about having more stuff on the new Misfits CDs. At first I thought it wouldn't fly because people would be pissed that it wasn't the same as the original or something like that, but screw that. Iron Maiden just (like a year or so ago) re-released all their old discs with everything that was on the singles form that album as a bonus disc. Motorhead re-released alot of their old stuff with three or four bonus trakcs on them. It would be a good idea to have the original singles included with the new albums being released. I don't know exactly how that would work, but you could stick the cough/cool single on WAU along with some other stuff. There is about 45 minutes left blank on the average misfits album on CD (not collection) so there is plenty of space to do it. Another thing. MTV does suck. It sucks because they play crap. It seems that everytime I turn it on they are playing rap music or some equally crappy shit. I think that if they had a Misfits video on that would be great. Would they play it into the ground? YES. But it doesn't matter to me. I turn on MTV less than once a week. I'd be lucky if they played it in the five minutes that I watch. Besides I listen to most misfits songs about once a day so I doubt even MTV could make me sick of them. I do worry about them starting to suck though. Metallica is a classic example. They said they would never do a video and then all of a sudden out came One. After that everything went to hell. Did you see the book with the new album "Load of shit" it looks like U2's Achtung Baby (uh oh achtung is a german word hope I didn't offend anyone). At the same time I look at Danzig. He made videos and he is still as great as ever. It seems as though it is up to the bands themselves as to whether or not they will let fame go to their heads and then start to suck. I don't really see the Misfits standing up on stage looking all depressed and shit singing the theme song to "The New Family Ties" while having their agent wait in line for the signups to sound like Soundgarden. The Misfits are making the same horror influenced punkish music that they made twenty years ago and I don't think MTV would stop that. Scott PS sorry about the long post. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:07:06 +0200 (EET) From: Helena S Montonen Subject: stuff, SWEDES LOOK HERE ChristoTer@aol.com wrote: >Why is it all the record shows I go to have nothing except Beatles and >classical shit? There's this one I went to a few times, and ONE guy has >like a King Diamond No Presents 12" and that's about it and maybe a >Sacrifice promo CD. Sigh....I need to move east. Well, I went to a con the other day and it was mainly filled with Metallica and Kiss. There were some interesting records though, like some Sloppy Seconds singles (including "Where Eagles Dare", but I bought Sloppy's 7"-cd-collection for a couple of bucks more). I also saw more Misfits bootlegs in one place than I have ever seen before. I got a Violent World promo-CD for about $12, money well spent! (The NOFX track is funny and the Farside track is hilarious) PSYCO78 wrote about The Misfits being on MuchMusic, and seemed to think it was a good idea, but I have to disagree. Here in Finland, we have a show based on and made in co-operation with MuchMusic, so the format and part of the material is the same. Those small "gigs" (here the bands play only one song because of limited time) don't give a good impression of the bands and the interviews (and spotlights) basically suck in my opinion. Now this is my view on MuchMusic specifically, but I guess music- television (TV shows and/or channels about music) is pretty much the same everywhere. I think the basic question is, is that much media coverage really needed? I mean, The Misfits have one of the largest followings in the world (they may not be written about, but you can't really go anywhere without meeting someone who likes them) and there's really nothing to be gained by appearing on all kinds of shows. Brett Fama wrote about females singing on Danzig records. I have one question relating to this; Way back somebody wrote that during the Misfits days, it was Jerry and/or Bobby singing backup vocals. The question is: which one is it singing on "Return of the Fly"? :-) A couple of times a book called "Punk Diary" by a person called George Gimarc has been mentioned. If anybody wants, I can mail the complete Misfits-related content. It ain't much, and it sucks! Finally, I would like to request help from people living in Sweden about finding a copy of Ebba Gr=94n's "Ebba the Movie". Please e-mail me! -Anders Montonen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:25:54 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Out of Hand... Hello fiends... first to Adam R. you can get the creases out with an iron, but put a towel that covers the whole poster over it and iron on a low setting, like the one for silk. you want to be very careful. the fact is that when the fan club package was sent out it was in these big envelopes that were designed for Kryst the C. Eric, you should be happy you got it as cheap as you did. you paid $5 less than what EVB and I had paid. plus you did not have to pay for shipping either. Chris, i'll give a description once i get it in the mail. i was supposed to get mine Saturday but it did not come. we have fucked up mail here, for the most part are mail person will kind of deliver the mail and refuses to ever take mail out of the box. Misfits 101... So did anyone go... As it says, did anyone go to any of the Record conventions? if you actually live in Miami like i do, there are two coming up. one in Nirth Miami and the other in Hollywood. i will give dates when they come up. other wise i do want to point out that you should really take advantage of the fact that there are more shows in most of your states too go to. if i was that lucky to live where there are shows once a month i would be there everytime. As for the Victims 7", to the guy who just posted he's looking for one, the line forms to your left. there are a lot of fiends and non fiends looking for that 7". Unfortunately mine is sitting in Japan with some furniture maker. but i have not seen one up for sale in the past 4 years. it took me 4 - 5 years just to find the first one. and i'm still looking. No new info on vinyl right now, though i figure to hear somemore this week. well i'm going to cut it short today. next time i should have the info on the Sacrfice 12" -detailing, more vinyl for sale and whatever else comes my way. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. 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I wish I was a MiSFiT (Re: New Entry (6) in Account 003582) snapcase and stuff. fuck off Dream Sub-Pop duet single... Skrewdriver, The Righteous Black Duck, and all other bullshit PLEASE POST THE FOLLOWING TO THE "BIBLE"!!!!!!!!!!!! NE PLUS ULTRA Plan9 David Jackson Punk Diary Gear... 4 HITS FORM MARS / ADAM WEST / RIPSNORTER Misfits backup vocals a little clearification guitars and tab Since Tammy was wondering... Tribute Set your VCRs... Black Sabbath reunion New Details... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Mar 97 17:29:02 EST From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Bill Avery's Auction I think Bill Avery has ripped me off for $250. If anyone is thinking of dealing with him, please hold off. His auction was probably a fraud. If anyone else has had problems or successes PLEASE write me ASAP. Bill if you are reading this, PLEASE call me right away at the number below. Paul Holstein 102165,134@compuserve.com 810-620-8924 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:08:19 PST Subject: TIMES SQUARE - CANCELLED From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Sorry Fiends, Saturday's gig at THE BEAT has been cancelled. Jill's got Walking Pneumonia ( I think I'm immune to it - since I can't walk). This weather's been murder. Either way; I still recommend that you go see THE MIGRAINES. Anybody who knows me, knows I don't recommend cheeseball bands. These guys are in the style of SLOPPY SECONDS. To all the people who emailed to wish me a happy birthday - THANKS Jon Jordan: Thanks for the advice. I'll look into that one - it never occured to me. Everyone else: NAZIS, G G, SKINHEADS, SAVED BY THE BELL, 138, . . . Where's Wes Thomas when you need him ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:16:51 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last time >> From: Mark Allen Blackman >> Subject: Who Is This Person? >> >> I was wondering who George Germain is, and what was his relation to the >> Misfits? I saw that he was the original owner of the master "Teenagers From >> Mars" acetate and also still owns one of the four other "Teenagers From >> Mars" acetates. Mark responded: >Germain was an old friend of the band who supported them financially in >the early days. He owns lots of rare Misfits stuff, as well as some of >the other acetates. Mark is correct. Personally I don't like the guy, he's an old no it all type. He rubbed me the wrong way with 5 minutes on the phone. Back in the early days of the bible I tried to explain the net to Jerry (fat chance) anyway Jerry goes to george who at the time ran a BBS. George calls me telling me that I should get people to check out *his* BBS he has Chat! I'm like so what.... The Misfits, Jerry that is, always put faith in their old friends ie: Germain, they tend to listen to people that really can't help them where they need to be helped. Just my two cents. btw: the story of the "teenagers" acetate on a jukebox is obviously false. Acetates are test pressings on soft wax backed with steel. 3 or 4 plays and it's shot. An Acetate is also the backup should the master tapes be lost or damaged. Patricia's (black) Horror Business (now owned by Matt Ball) was on the jukebox at the Mudd Club, could this be where the confusion lies? ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ "...Obviousthly I'm dealing withph inferior mentalitieth..." - Daffy Duck Crimson Ghost - othello@magicnet.net -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:21:49 -0800 (PST) From: death pig Subject: record trades Dear Fiends, I have the following records for trade.If interested in trading contact me at: deathpiggy@hotmail.com thanks, death pig list: Live in 79 7" bullet 7" who killed on blk7" Black Flag louie louie 7" (on posh boy) EAD non-caroline Samhain unholy passion (maroon cover) Flipside fanzine --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 17 MAR 97 15:21:40 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: From Hell it came ... and other horror stories.... Sean said "christoter; you say AZ or Noss probably won't be willing to shell out $1100 for CD's... then if we want CD's (which I prefer) then why don't we just take PRE-ORDERS... take pre-orders, pre-payments, and they can always order a few extra just incase someone misses out." Well, pre-orders are fine, but alot of people don't want to send in money and wait 2 months to get their disc. Plus if I get orders for 25 CDs, I don't think there are that many pressing plants that will do that few. At this point, there is no way I can finance a couple of hundred CD's and hope people buy them, my wife would hang me by my short hairs.... If I had my own CD-R burner at home and Zerofire ZA2 card to digitally transfer the songs from my DAT to the HD, I could burn these at home, but I don't have that equipment now and won't in the near future. There is someone on here that does transfers to CDR for like $16. I assume he is recording (set me straight wherever you are) analog to the inputs of his sound card and then to a WAV file which is burned to CD. It should sound ok that way, but I prefer to keep it digital if its on DAT so I don't add more hiss and distortion. The S/N on those sound cards ain't the best but then again, for what we are doing, it might not matter.. Where ever you are dude, let me know if you are interested in becoming part of this project!!!! It seems there is a real desire for CDs...... Justin Deming said "People have been talking about releasing their own Misfits tributes. This sounds like a great idea, but I want it to reach CD!" You may wait forever, unless alot of folks want to ante up early for this, it won't make it to disc unless a real label puts it out. Please see above post for why.. Forever Kimono guy said "What I'm actually thinking of is MB fiend bands doing their ORIGINAL material. This would probably be more workable than trying to get copyright clearances from ASCAP for 20 Glenn Danzig songs." No ASCAP clearance is being sought by me, so that is not an issue. If I was to distribute this for real outside our list I would probably seek that, but not for 100 or tapes that are going to MB subscribers. For some reason I have a feeling this tape will draw as much apathy as our T-shirt did. I think your idea is a good one, go for it. AZ ------------------------------ From: mk Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #309 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:40:05 -0500 (EST) > From pdeming > *To Mark* > Mark, any news on the title of the upcoming 'Fits album? It changes > every so often, so I just thought I'd ask. Oh, and I haven't viewed the > Wednesday Bible yet, forgive me if you mentioned it. > Do the Misfits still maintain that fiendclub AOL address? I'd like to > see the guys come on-line, although I'd imagine Jerry wants to avoid Well, Michale and Rachel cancelled their fiendclub@aol.com account, so that is no more. As for the album, it's still called "American Psycho," but I guess we'll know for sure on May 13th. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:38:43 -0500 (EST) From: asenath Subject: heroin? for sale... uh demom? overweight heroin addict? isn't that an oxymoron i haven't met an addict that weighed over #120 i guess she wasn't very serious about her habit... blah i have some stuff for sale... misfits ltd ed. gold earth ad. $50 misfits bootleg cd at the ritz nyc 12/81 $15 or best offer misfits bootleg 7" famous misfits of filmland: 4 hits from hell... ltd ed ov 500 copies gray vinyl... yours for only $4 one crimson ghost mousepad hand made by me $8 non misfits stuff GBH church of the truly warped cd $6 Generation X perfect hits 1975-1981 $6 Marilyn Manson: portrait of an american family $8 Marilyn Manson: smells like children cd recalled 1st pressing with letter from nothing/interscope killing airplay. $50 or best offer Die Krupps: III odyssey of the mind full lenght promo $6 Metallica: master of puppets; kill 'em all; and justice for all $7 each Megadeth: so far so good...; peace sells...; killing is my business... $7each the young gods: retrospective full length promo cd $6 gravity kills 11 track guilty remixes $6 Sister Machine Gun cd ep 4 track hole in the ground remixes $4 Love & Rockets: ep the glittering darkness 5 tracks $4 Singles: $3 Drill: go to hell. what you are. los fabulosos cadillacs w/ debby harry covering strawberry fields forever. buy 2 cds get a single ov your choice free... sorry for the waste ov bandwidth, but i'm poorer than bobby:P :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : i stopped having nightmares... : : ...when i became a monster. : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:02:06 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST >From: Justin Deming >"Jake, I'd get the 4 Hits From Mars, but I just don't have a vinyl >player of my own yet, and I'm not sure if I should make the investment >until I become a hippidy-hopper, and then you'd have to lynch me anyway, >and all of the bands from 4HFM that I'd sample would sue me, and I'd >suck. BTW, I'm sorry I could never get my Adam West order out to you, >but the vinyl situation just became a little much for me. I can't wait >for your CD, though!" well, i believe everybody should have access to a turntable cuz there's simply too much stuff unavailable on CD. just my opinion! as for the ADAM WEST CD: "MONDO ROYALE" will be released officially on april 18. our CD release party will be at the black cat in DC that friday, april 18, if anyone is in town. i will be making them available to the misfits bible with a special deal, so stay tuned! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: WOLFER138@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:37:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: BOOTLEG RESSURECTION TAPE MUST READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM DOING A COMPILATION OF MISFITS LIVE STUFF, SOUNDCHECKS, REHESALS, ETC. IT IS ALL RESSURECTION STUFF WITH MIKE GRAVES. IT HAS 9 NEW SONGS ON IT. IT HAS 2 REHERSALS W/ GRAVES, A FEW SOUNDCHECKS, SCATTERED LIVE STUFF, AND THE WHOLE ROSELAND RETURN SHOW FROM HALLOWEEN 95. THIS IS MOSTLY FOR FIENDS THAT DONT WANT TO PAY 25 BUX FOR A LIVE BOOTLEG AND JUST WANT TO HEAR MIKE SING. IT WILL BE ONLY 7 BUX ABOUT 2 FOR THE TAPE 2 FOR SHIPPING AND 3 BUX FOR ME. ILL SEND SOMETHING COOL IN EACH. ILL POST A FUL SETLIST WHEN IT IS TOTALLY DONE. I HAVE ABOUT 65 MIN. AND IM GONNA FILL UP THE FULL 90 MIN. TAPE. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED MAIL ME. VISIT THESE COOL PAGES: MISFITS RESSURECTION HOMEPAGE: http://members.aol.com/WOLFER138/Ressurection.html ANGELSIN WEBPAGE: http://members.aol.com/Angelsn/angelsin.html COOL SICK PAGE: http://www.alliance.net/~regina19/mort.htm SEan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:56:14 -0500 From: Jim Subject: I wish I was a MiSFiT Hey bible Fiends... I noticed a lot of people are sending in songs and poetry so I thought I'd stop titting off and post something. Anyway, I found this song when I was looking through some stuff that I wrote last September. I only played it once or twice on an acoustic guitar but I think it's kinda cool. Hope you all like it as much as I do. >>>I wish I was a Misfit: I saw em' playing at Eddie's Lounge In '78 when I was around It changed my life And it made my day I took a hike And finally felt okay I stopped doing drugs I stopped doing time Whoever I was I left him behind They were called Satan worshippers If we only knew; it was probably worse They were punks and they were cool They couldn't care less about any fucking rules They had their fans and they had it all I think I cried that night at Greystone Hall Glenn Danzig I think he's okay Although he kicked my ass the other day Bobby Steele; never needed a hand Then he left and started his own band Arthur Googy, on the attack He fought with Glenn cause he wanted a Big Mac Brian Damage, was he in the band ? Somebody must know; can you gimme a hand ? Manny and Robo, what can you say ? If they had two names it would have rhymed okay Jerry Only, holy Shit ! Kept the faith and he never quit Then there's Doyle, he's a scary guy I'm twenty-four and he still makes me cry Dr. Chud ? I don't know ? I didn't like the movie but I'll give it a go Michale Graves, great fucking name ! He's younger than me an' already in the game I wish I was a Misfit Devilocks and lotsa girls Watching the Exorcist until you hurl Halloween night is such a rush You sit around and watch corpses turn to dust It's so easy It's a sin I ain't bein' sleazy I'm just trying to win On Friday the 13th as I watched TV I got fiend club package ...and got some freebee's The Misfits made me what I am If you don't like it; why don't blame them I know it's sick ...and I know it's bad But being a prick was just too fucking sad I wish I was a Misfit...(until fade out) JIM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:14:35 -0500 From: "forever kimona's guy"