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Misfits Bible, Number 331
 
Wednesday, May 7th 1997
 
Today's Topics:
 
 misfits review 05/03/97 berlin
 Geffen homepage
 Thanks 
 Re: Misfits Bible #330
 THE ELECTRIC FACTORY
 DAMNED ALBUM
 american psycho
 Misfits reforming/Posers
 WANTED
 necros n' chips
 Re: the misfits bible personals
 mark blackment
 Re: Misfits Bible #330
 bible entry
 Mechanix (sorry)
 vinly vs cd
 www.geffen.com
 American Psycho
 Cough/Cool & Other Stuff
 American Psycho tour/Fiend Club newsletter
 bootleg videos
 Re: Misfits Bible #330
    vinyl, metallica, SxE,21 Jump St and From Hell The Came .. news
 american
 mr. naked
 .WAV's  & misc.
 weekend
 AMERICAN PSYCHO; OZZFEST cd; STATIC AGE cd
 VERY cool Misfits sighting
 Dee-Dee Danzig, Megadeth
 Vinyl VINYL VINYL VINYL Vinyl
 correction?
 Misfits vinyl
 american psycho
 The new stuff
 Great Adventure
 American Psycho and Ate My Balls
 My email adventures with Motley Crue
 Misfit's article Info (Great God Pan)
 VINYL SALE & DANZIG CONTEST
 Misfits gigs in Finland
 MY MAIL
 fiend club package + BEWARE
 american psycho page
 misfits fans read this!!!
 That typical crap...
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From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele)
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 22:12:06 EDT

>Subject: MAXS Email War!!!!!  and more : )
>From: dave naked 

>>From: asenath 
>>wow i thought there wasn't a known recording of in the doorways... 

> Lets start an email campaign.  Flood "Caroline" with requests to put out
>"Maxs Xmas".
> We can do this....

Even better . . . 
Tell them you want the original tapes with Bobby Steele on guitar - not
the FAKE re-recorded version. No matter how bad it might be - technology
exists that can fix almost anything without re-dubbing tracks.

On top of that. CAROLINE has passed on the tapes that I've offered from
September '79. We could combine the best of these 3 sets for a nice live
CD.

I'm even getting closer to that Halloween '79 video and the CBGB's
audition video.

>From: 00sbgibson@bsuvc.bsu.edu
>Subject: Featuring Ex-Misfits?
>I have been getting the bible for a long time now, and have never posted,
>but the other day as I was packing up all my stuff after getting evicted
>my apartment I found a flyer from a Sloppy Seconds show I went to a couple
>ofyears ago. It made me think of something Bobby Steele posted in the bible
>a while ago. 
>In #263 Bobby Steele said:
>>ACT YOUR RAGE- a punk record that came out when punk was very unpopular-
>>recieved limitless good reviews; while DELIVER US FROM EVIL (that's Jerry's
>>record - the one with the "features ex-MISFITS", but Bobby and Glenn are 
>>banking on the name -sticker) was slammed. In fact, that CD did so poorly
>>that Jerry had to resort to using the name of a band, that he had previously
>>put down, in order to achieve any success.
>Now, I'm not attacking Bobby in any way, but this flyer was advertising all
>of the bands which were going to be at "Sloppy-Palooza," Which includes
>"the Undead featuring ex-Misfits." Next to this claim were a number of 
>Crimson Ghost logos and a huge copy of the cover from WAU (did Bobby even 
>play on this album?). Now, I really don't think Bobby had anything to do with
>this flyer, but it just goes to show that no matter how dead set against
>being identified solely as a one time member of the Misfits you are, sometimes
>you just can't control the way in which someone else might present you.Why not
>give Jerry the benefit of the doubt and assume that he had about as much to do
>with the stickers on the Kryst CDs as you did the advertising on this flyer?

Let's get this straight. I am not, and have never been dead set against
being identified as an EX-MISFIT. I'm proud of that past.

I had nothing to do with THAT flyer, but I have always advertised
EX-MISFITS for UNDEAD and TIMES SQUARE shows. Why not ? It's the truth.

Jerry put out that KRYST CD with that EX-MISFITS sticker, while accusing
me and Glenn of "banking off THE MISFITS name" - which he then went on to
say he was beyond that. "I'm washing my hands" That's saying he wants no
association whatsoever with THE MISFITS - no matter how you slice it.
I would have had no objection to it, except he was so damned righteous
about how he would never lower himself to such a level as to use the
MISFITS name.

He's nothing but a liar, hippocrate and he's conned a lot of loyal fiends
out of their money. If you think he's so sincere - see if you can get him
to do a benefit show. With all the money he's made off of last year's
tours - you'd think he would be willing to do at least one. He's only in
it for the money. I feel badly for Michale, CHUD and DOYLE. 

Unlike both Glenn and Jerry; I have always been proud of being a MISFIT.
The ultimate proof is in the fact that I held on to my MISFITS
memorabilia. Most of what you see in MISFITS CENTRAL was from my personal
collection - and I still have plenty more . . . including the MAX'S XMAS
poster and photographs that have never been published anywhere. Jerry has
admitted to throwing away everything he had - including a copy of the
Halloween 79 video. While they were both denouncing THE MISFITS; I was
touring and keeping the legacy alive by playing MISFITS songs for our
fiends. Jerry has just stepped in to reap the financial rewards for
something that I have been the primary one responsible for keeping alive.
Then he stole about $70,000.00 of my share of the $650,000.00 advance
that CAROLINE paid for the box set. He did the same to Joey Image and
Googie too.

I hope this clarifies this matter.

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Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 00:13:33 +0200
From: Ruprecht Meyer zu Riemsloh 
Subject: misfits review 05/03/97 berlin


Here's the review of the show on Saturday 3rd of May 1997 at the SO36 in 
Berlin !!

Perhaps you want to know something about the place SO36. It is one of the 
most important clubs in Berlin's Hard Core/Punk/... scene.

The Misfits were supported by Sardonica and Subzero. 

Sardonica sucked! I think they're pretty bad. You couldn't tell whether 
it is a new song or still the same as before. The drums were so dominant 
that you could hardly hear anything else.
Well, Subzero was pretty good, I liked them a lot. The place was nearly
sold out and a lot of people were there when they started playing.
The last song was a cover song of Cro Mags which they dedicated 
to the Misfits for taking them on tour.

The Intro of The Misfits was the same as last year and they started the
show with Halloween. The crowd went wild and everyone was pushing 
to the stage. Michael Graves came on stage last and had a 
hat (zylinder?)on and his face and head was painted white with a black
skull on his face which looked pretty erie/cool/crazy ! The show was 
fantastic, they were even playing better than they did last year, when I 
saw them the first time. They played for almost 90 minutes, lots of old songs
and 5 or 7 new ones of the American psycho which will be released in 
Germany on the 05/14/ as far as I know. The new ones were better than 
I expected and everyone seemed to like them. But the most important 
thing was that Michael Graves improved so much compared to the
show last year that I couldn't belive it. He must've worked very hard 
and sometimes I thought that he was going mad on stage because 
somehow he was acting like in a rage or something. I don't know perhaps 
he was on drugs but it was just unbeliveable.

Oh, I have to quit now. Hope that's enough info and if you've some more
questions just write!

bye, Rupi

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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 19:16:39 -0400
From: Greg Paterson 
Subject: Geffen homepage

Geffen has their Misfits homepage up and running with sound clips from
American Psycho. Check it out.

http://www.geffen.com/misfits

Greg

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From: chris besaw 
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:26:26 -0600
Subject: Thanks 

This goes out to jason Rojo, thanks I got the record, I would of emailed 
you the day I got it but I lost your email address.once again thanks.Also 
one last thing, I have a BLACK FLAG 7" LOUIE LOUIE on POSHBOY 
RECORDS for sale if anyone is intersted in it email me at:
deadboy@wwdg.com
Thanks and later,
Chris/Deadboy

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From: MK 
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #330
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:27:15 -0400 (EDT)

> From: Jon Jorden 
> Subject: Vinyl
> 
> I have a feeling that American Psycho wont be comin' out on vinyl or if it 
> does it'll be limited. Why? Well... as someone said, there's no vinyl listing 
> and usually they list vinyl availibility. And number two, Rocky told me a 
> while back something like vinyl sucks, no one wants it... who cares.

American Psycho will be out on red vinyl with a bonus track.  Rocky might
not like vinyl, but Jerry does.

> to which i laughed to myself. You noticed the box set didn't come on vinyl. 
> if it would have i bet they'd have sold lots more. oh well.

The Box Set didn't come out on vinyl because the coffin box design was 
specifically sized and designed for CDs.

> Subject: MAXS Email War!!!!!  and more : )
> From: dave naked 
> 
> >wow i thought there wasn't a known recording of in the doorways... 
> 
> Yeah...actually so did I.  I remember when everyone thought it was going
> to be on box set Mark made a big stink about how it was never recorded,
> check the web page, blah blah blah......So whats the deal.  Have you
> heard this, Mark?  Well, how is it?  Why wasnt it on the box (the most
> COMPLETE place for Misfits stuff)?  Thats bullshit.  Someones running a
> shamm operation over there.  Wonder what else is going to "surface". 
> Maybe some unreleased "Evilive" so we could all but that again, or a few
> more sessions on the box so we could all shell out ANOTHER $70.  

Don't waste your time.  "In The Doorway" is the last of the unreleased
tracks.  Even the band members didn't know it had been recorded until
Tom at Caroline discovered it on the Static Age session master 2 inch 
tape.  These things happen. Such is life.
 
> >i wonder what other songs are being held out from us. it is a little
> Exactly.

How about none?

> Lets start an email campaign.  Flood "Caroline" with requests to put out
> "Maxs Xmas". Say shit like, "Its unfair to keep unreleased stuff from the
> fans" or such.  Be creative.  Im sure if we totally flood them with 1,000
> + requests theyll at least think about it.  Mark, please post there email
> address along with any email type Glenn and co. has (hell, flood him to).
>  We can do this....

Caroline will never put that album out, nor can/will anyone else.  

Remember to check out _Great God Pan #9_ - there's a great short article
featuring unreleased pictures of the '83 Misfits.  Their next issue will
also feature more unreleased pictures.  Write to:
Great God Pan; PO Box 491; Hermosa Beach, CA 90254-0491
with $4 (postage paid) for an issue.  Several others have mentioned it
recently (Persephone!) and it's definitely worth checking out. 
Thanks Ryq.

Mark

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:54:07 -0400
From: Xdisco infernoX 
Subject: THE ELECTRIC FACTORY

If I had any doubts about the Electric Factory as a venue they were
shattered this weekend.  The Philly Fugazi show was the most ludicrous
event I have ever attended.  I don't know whether to blame the venue or
Philly but the two are inevitably intertwined.  The crowd began to talk
whenever the band played new material.  The kids continued to crowd surf
despite Ian's request for them not to roll on people's heads.  I was
embarassed to be from Philly.  It was not the first time lately.  I
attended two NYC shows the nights before and there was no excuse for
Philly's behavior.  The shows in NYC lasted up to 2 1/2 hours with as many
as three encores. The new songs especially "NO SURPRISE" were great.
Philly doesn't know what it missed out on!!!!!  So no I definitely don't
think the MISFITS should play there during their summer tour...
						xDISCO INFERNOx
P.S.  If you don't like H2O for their music... fine.  But don't hold them
to some garbage hardcore ideal because no one is holding you to it.  You
only are responsible for yourself and therefore should only judge yourself.
However, if you think H2O sucks... then don't go to their shows... its
cool... it's your choice.

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From: oioioi@geocities.com
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 20:23:33 -0700
Subject: DAMNED ALBUM

HEya, I have a Damned album on white vinylon Stiff records from 1977 that 
my brother gave me, it has 5 songs on it, New Rose, Neat Neat Neat, a 
cover of Help by the Beatles, Strecher Case, and Sick of being Sick. Does 
anyone know the value of this?

John

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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 20:45:27 -0500
From: Misfit 
Subject: american psycho

I heard some of the new misfits stuff for the first time and it sounded
pretty damn cool.  It kinda reminds me of pennywise/bad religion with
some parts sung by the singer of sisters of mercy.  But there are parts
that actually sound like the misfits also.
-- 
              . S   U   B   H   U   M   A   N .
              `.  M I S F I T @ N E T R E A C H . N E T  .'
                `.    http://www.netreach.net/~misfit    .'

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From: Willie Ramone 
Subject: Misfits reforming/Posers
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 18:40:38 PDT

Today I will talk about the reforming of the Misfits and Posers. But before I 
step on the soap box I would like to inform you about 3 upcoming releases:
1. Marky Ramone and The Intruders S/T- May 6th on Thirsty Ear 
2. GBH "Punk Junkies"- May 27 on Triple-X
3. Foo Fighters "The Colour and the Shape"- May 27 on Capitol

Now about the Misfits reforming. They aren't they only psuedo-punk band to 
reform after breaking up. There are actually numerous ones to speak of:
1. Sham 69- reformed in 1989 after breaking up in 1980.
2. X-Ray Spex- reformed in 1994.
3. Sex Pistols- reformed in 1996.
4. Blondie- reformed in 1995.
5. Clash- remured to be reforming
6. Damned- had broken and reformed many times.
7. Buzzcocks
8. Vibrators
9. Dictators
10. Television- reformed and broke up again in 1993.
11. Velvet Underground- reformed for European tour in early '90s
12. Stiff Little Fingers
13. The Fall
14. The Jam- also rumored to be reforming
15. 999
16. The Lurkers
So, when you complain about the Misfits coming back for money, it not their 
fault because it is really just a current trend in music.
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Part 2
For all you guys who like to pick on posers. Well I just found an letter to MRR 
in Febuary's issue, #165, I would to share with you. Maybe, just maybe you will 
learn something:

>"Oi! I read Ben Marx's tirade against "Fake punks" in #163. Hey Ben- >I totally 
agree with about posers and "punks" wannabe's in the "scene." 
>But...fuck, it's really not that cut and dry! Look at it this way: 
>Sure, there's stupid kids out their who worship Rancid and NOFX and 
>buy Punky Color hair dye and pay $80 to go see shows- this makes me 
>depressed, and I'm sure you feel the same way. But...don't despise 
>these kids so much. Cause, look- we all had to start somewhere! 3 
>years ago, I was into Bad Religion and but I didn't know shit about 
>punk rock. I though "alternative" crap was cool. Yea, I was pretty 
>stupid for paying $16.95 (or more) for a brand new Helmet t-shirt at 
>the Underground, just fucking stupid for thinking I was being 
>different and alternative by dyeing my hair green , piercing my nose 
>and slam dancing.
Blah, blah few paragraphs down......
>Quit whining! Make friends with posers and get 'em drunk. Let them >borrow your 
record collection. Everybody changes, a lot of these >posers will change. Most 
of these kids are learning about punk rock. >So don't make fun of them just 
cause they don't know as much as you >do.
I agree totally with this article because I "discovered" punk by bands like 
Green Day, Rancid, and Bad Religion. I don't listen to their shit anymore 
because I found a few .45's of Richard Hell and Dead Boys. I know only listen to 
pre-new wave punk. Mostly only from britain or Ny. Since PUNK IS DEAD (no 
fucking joke).
D-U-M-B
everyone accusing me
Willie Ramone 

 

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Date: 5 May 1997 22:07:06 -0400
From: COTTER TIM EXC PP US 
Subject: WANTED

Glenn Danzig-Who Killed Marilyn 7" swirl vinyl-will pay $500
Misfits-Bullet 7"- 3rd press will pay-$125
Misfits-Horror Business7" Black vinyl -will pay $500, DBL A-side -will pay$200
Misfits-Earth AD- LP -Clear and Green vinyl-will pay $200 ea
Misfits-Collection II-Clear Vinyl -will pay $90
Misfits-Legacy of,Brutality-pink-will pay$750
Misfits-Halloween 7" ps only Black & white-$175
Samhain-Initium-LP-White and Black marbled-$200 ea
Earth AD/Evilive-german Cd- $35
Wolfs Blocd/Earth AD-Germand reissue-3 spins printed-$65
Test pressings-$250+
Danzig -Lucifruge LP-$40
Danzig- How the Gods Kill /LP=$40
Danzig-Purple Mother-$40-60
Danzig-Thrall-pic disc-$50

will trade my doubles on collectors page of the website-prices negotiable.

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Date: Mon May  5 20:37:05 1997
From: Jon Jorden 
Subject: necros n' chips

necros> welp, there's been some limited rereleases of the necros material on 
Touch & Go (dischord co released some of this, that's what you're thinking 
of). One was in a fanzine that reissued material from the T&G 7inch comp (one 
Necros track), there's been some reissues of the Necros 7inchers, though 
they've been semi-legitimate or unlegitimate. Though they were from master 
tapes if that means anything.  
 
As for the possiblity of stuff being reissued: Touch & Go was owned during 
that time period solely by Tesco Vee. However Tesco sold/gave T&G away, so i'm 
not really sure who owns the rights to the old releases on T&G. Never the 
less, since some of that other stuff has been reissued legitimately (Negative 
Approach, Meatmen, etc) then I dont see why the Necros cant.
 
As for Gasatanka, that's a label owned by White Flag. If you notice, the Germs 
tribute is co-released by Gasatanka. Who knows who has the rights to Gasatanka 
material from back then, cause they had a pressing/distro deal with someone (i 
dont remember who, maybe Important?). Either way contracts back in those days 
were non-existant so i could be the bands holding it up , or the labels, or 
whatever.
 
As for ChiPs.. that show sucked but i watched it when I was a kid. My band 
tried to cover it... .that I Dig Pain song, but it sucked really bad. So.
Bye.
---
--------------==============================------------------
"This is only a quote."
              allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:09:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: ZOMBIES ate my brains!!!! 
Subject: Re: the misfits bible personals

>posters here send some photos of ourselves on disc so Marc can
>them up on the web page or something. It's just an idea. That way we

whelp, that sounds like a good idea to me.  A few people are already on
there though like D-rod, mark and...ahem...I.  I'm sure that there are
more, but these are the ones I can think of.   

Leah
(if you were wondering my picture is under 10/30/96, the memory lane show)

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"Hurry up guys, I'm starting to forget Halloween"

          ----me before every [misfits] show

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Date: 5 May 1997 22:41:50 -0400
From: COTTER TIM EXC PP US 
Subject: mark blackment

Saw your golmine wantlist> 
If your still looking for the descendants 7"s I can get you the Fat ep.7".
Send me an email. Tim.cotter@cp.novartis.com

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From: JTder@webtv.net (Jeff Tallent)
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:48:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #330

I agree with AZawodny on this one:
I good CD without oversampling bullshit sounds 
Killer! don't get me wrong, I have LOTS of vinyl, & love my turntable,
In fact I don't care if I have a release on CD or VINYL, I only PREFER
CD if it is a DDD (full digital recording)
another reason to prefer CD is that I can play the disc in my van
without having to tape it first.(like vinyl) my van plays both CD and
Cassette. I couldn't imagine having to choose just one for my van...I
have WAY too many of both.
I Just finished listening to "In A Metal Mood" by Pat Boone, it is a
SCREAM! I reccomend it HIGHLY!!

    Your Friend, Jeff 
     JTder@webtv.net 
Spam belongs in a can,
NOT in an E-mail box! http://members.tripod.com/~JTder/index.html 

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Rojo 
Subject: bible entry

Dear fiends,

I wanted to post this bible entry and tell all of you who made bids for 
the violent world orange vinyl thanks, and then let you all know who got 
them. my problem is this. I have no idea what happened, but I wnet away 
this weekend to play in a soccer tournament. I came back to check my 
e-mail on sunday night, and imagine my suprise when ALL of my files in my 
mailbox were gone. GONE!!!! So all of you who bid or put in inquiries 
have to do it again, because I lost all of your e-mail addresses. ( I 
don't usually write them down, but I will now.)I will extend the bidding 
period until may 14th at 12 am eastern time. here is what I have to 
auction off.

violent world orange vinyl ( got a few )
huck em promo cd w/ walk among us on it (1 left)
kill your baby today cd

So all the fiends that bid or inquired please bid again or give me your 
email addresses so I can get it to you.

Oh, one other thing. I don't know who the Bill Avery was who dicked 
everybody, but the one I dealt with was quick, fair, and dependable. The 
vernon show kicked ass!

send bids questions to 

cantona@elwha.evergreen.edu

thanks,

Jason

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From: master.of.puppets@asylumbbs.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 21:39:24 -0500 
Subject: Mechanix (sorry)

       You're right, the Mechanix does sound alot like The Four
Horsemen...such a wonder since Dave was in MetallicA...The Lyrics are
different because Dave kept his version...
       Sorry for writin' that but it can't be worse than trying to sell
all my CDs...

later
 

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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 02:38:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: asenath 
Subject: vinly vs cd

hmm thats funny at the radio station i worked at vinyl sounded just as
good on the $500 turntables as it did on the $1500 denons, maybe you've
never heard vinyl on a good turntable? anyways vinyl is inherently cooler
than cds. the only thing really better about cds is that you can listen to
cds nonstop with out having to get up every 25 mins to flip sides... 

:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:
: jess cyphers                                          asenath@sunlink.net :
:              http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html                 :
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:		        i stopped having nightmares...  	       	    :
:			  ...when i became a monster. 		  	    :
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:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':

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From: Hrrmnn8or@aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 03:21:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: www.geffen.com

 For those of you that haven't checked this out yet, do so!!!  They have 4
real audio sounds from American Psycho, as well as the front and back cover
of the album.  Plus about 5 other pics, and a long bio that covers the bands
history pretty damn accurately. I myself have heard around 8 wavs from the
new album thanks to scooter's web page, and I can't wait for the new album.
 It fuckin' kicks ass!!! SHit. It's good.  Me excited. Me go sleep now. Me
dream.  Good sleep. Me like Misfits. Me go now. 

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From: Ola Ekstrand 
Subject: American Psycho
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 05:14:33 PDT

Hi!
Just wondering if anyone knows who's got the swedish distro of "American Psycho" 
so I know where to turn for an advance review-copy.

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From: DAVID TESTA 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:06:00 +0000
Subject: Cough/Cool & Other Stuff

Okay, my e-mail appears to be very screwed up. I can send out 
messages fine, I just can't recieve any.  I am still looking to buy 
Cough/Cool, so if you're looking to sell it you can contact me at my 
band's e-mail address: gimp@tiac.net. 
    This reminds me, if you feel like checking out my bands web page 
we're called Midget Sperm Bank.  I don't remember the URL but you can 
use Yahoo, just type in Midget Sperm Bank (make sure you type "sperm 
bank" as two sperate words).  My stage name for MSB is "Johnny 
Carwash." So check out the page and let me know what you think.
   One last thing, I'm heading out to New Jersey soon so my question 
is, does any one know of any cool record stores in NJ?  I've been 
told about MusicMan, so I'll check that out. But, if any one knows of 
any others please post them in Friday's bible or e-mail them to me at 
gimp@tiac.net.
          Thanks,
                Dave T.     gimp@tiac.net
P.S. Tammy - do you have a number where I can reach that Curtis fella 
at Taang? thx. 

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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:16:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Your Worst Nightmare <02459@udel.edu>
Subject: American Psycho tour/Fiend Club newsletter

  The Misfits are not going to officially plan the summer tour dates until
they get back from Europe.  I know that Ticketmaster says they have one or
maybe even more, but I wouldn't count on them.  The band has not released
any information to anyone, even to those that work for them.  When they
do release the dates, they will give them to Mark.  When Mark gets them,
he will post them.  Get off his back, he can't tell you what he doesn't
know.
  Now, the newsletter.  I asked Doug Evil (who designed the Fiend Club
newsletter we've all been hearing so much about, yet have not received) to
either have Candi post when it's being sent out, or to tell me.  If he
tells me, I will post it.  Again, Mark can not tell you what he does not
know.

		E

PS: Loved that light bulb thing last issue.

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From: dave rieth 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 08:57:34 -0600
Subject: bootleg videos

hey check out my website for bootleg videos

http://members.tripod.com/~degenerated/home.html

Also looking for cheap pressings of punk vinyl
will buy or trade for videos.
Dave

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Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 13:24:39 -0500
From: gorgo 
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #330

Yet another person who still has yet to hear from the fiend club.

-Billy Vile.

p.s.-
don't worry too much about rolling stone giving american psycho one
and a half stars. when danzig 1 came out, it only got one star.

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Date:       6 May 97 11:42:40 EDT
From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com
Subject:    vinyl, metallica, SxE,21 Jump St and From Hell The Came .. news

Jon Jorden said "You noticed the box set didn't come on vinyl. if it would 
have i bet they'd have sold lots more. oh well."

I dont think thats true. Everyone one here was bitchin about how much the 
CD box set cost. . the vinyl would run you even more as it takes alot more 
records to put out all those songs.. also the packaging would have to be 
alot larger, etc.. I could see the vinyl version list price at $100 exp now 
that vinyl is more expensive to do that it when it was the format of 
choice... and people here bitched about spending $60 on the box set..

I got your tape by the way .. will listen to it later this week .. and then 
have to lug my VCR over to my DAT to record it :(

Opus (aka Michael) said "Don't get me wrong, I love the Misfits, I just 
CANNOT except what Jerry is
doing"

its ACCEPT (as in that hilariously funny band that sang about having their 
balls to the wall) not EXCEPT .... 

Lord Quitus said "  And on the H2O issue, if Toby is SxE, and sings about 
SxE, why does he ridicule the SxE kids who come to see them."

Because its so easy and fun to ridicule straightedgers .... just as much 
fun as it is to ridicule stoners or born again Xtians anyone else who wears 
their "religion" on their sleeve ...  

Mike Pennington then spoke "i found out that there was a demo version of 
Metallica's "The Four Horsemen " called "mechanix" written by Dave Mustaine,
 former guitar player and lead singer of Megadeth!!!"

Mustaine used to be in Metallica .. back in the day so to speak .. before 
Kill 'Em All came out.. You say formerly of Megadeth .. did that band break 
up?

Persephone then commented on the CHiPs punk rock episode ... Some of you 
may also remember there was a punk rock episode of 21 Jump St which starred 
Agent Orange (or at least their music) I dont know if the real band was in 
that show as I have never seen them live..

.From Hell The Came is coming along .. i have 30 songs so far ... and it 
appears that the way I will issue it is a 60 minute cassette and a 74 (or 
so) minute CD. The CD will contain extra tracks that the cassette will not 
have, but not vice versa (i.e. if you have the CD you will have all the 
tracks from the cassette). The reason for that is that people paying 3 
times as much for the CD are entitiled to more .... and some of the best 
performances that don't make it to the tape will make it to the CD and they 
will be picked at Keith's and my discretion.
Do to the space considerations of the 60 minute cassette, some bands that 
may have been promised 2 songs may only have one on the cassette. Everyone 
who submitted anything will have atleast ONE song on the cassette/CD. I'm 
trying to be as fair as possible for all of this while at the same time 
giving some extra recognition to the bands that really shined. Thoughts, 
comments and hate mail can be directed at me.

AZ

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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 11:33:16 -0700 (MST)
From: Nicholas B Brown 

Hey thanks for the sound clips on your homepage scooter!  At first i
wasn't sure how long i would put off buying psycho, but now i won't!  
As for the music, all i can say is "sunday, monday... happy days!" ;)
Well, ok, maybe not like that, but the new stuff sounds almost like a
cross between the misfits and happy days, or eddie and the cruisers or
some shit.  Just take some old music and speed it up!  I liked it though.
Listening to it, i thought an evil elvis voice would have kicked ass, but
some songs i think can stand without it easily.  I hope the rest of the
album is that cool.... and I'm sorry you all had to read my cheesy
premature review of some 18 second sound clips!

Nick B.

by the way, maybe im dense or something, but did anybody answer my
question about prong covering london dungeon and what danzig thought about
it???

------------------------------
 
Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 14:06:41 -0400
From: aaron pacitti 
Subject: american

i just got a copy of the american psycho promo, and it really aint that bad
music wise...but im sorry to say this, it isnt the misifts.  there are a
few songs that have the true misfits spirit, but if you put them up against
any pre 1983 songs, they just pale in comparison.

even the best songs on the album still can compare to horror business or
martian.

its sad that these guys are trying to be the misifts.  they arent.

the AP demo is great.  but it is not the misifts.  jerry may own the name,
but he doesnt have anything else.  the music is wonderful, but not for a
band called the misifts.

jerry knew what he was doing with this, and it turned out perfectly.

aaron

------------------------------
 
Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 14:02:15 -0400
From: aaron pacitti 
Subject: mr. naked

dave naked,
i couldnt agree with you more!  well said.  

i think someone is trying to pull a quick one on us fiends.  whether its
jerry, glenn, caroline or who the fuck ever, they are simply cashing in on
the fact that 90% of the people on this list will buy anything with the
misifts name on it.  why dont they throw the other 4 or 5 "unrecorded
songs" that miraculously surface at convientent times on 7" and sell it for
$4.  that is doing something for the fans.  then they could get the maxs
xmas out on a LP and sell that for $10.  i know someone has the original
tape in their possesion.  i dont wanna hear doyle overdubs.  half the
reason that show was so incredible was because of bobbys work.  hey, maybe
they will hold that until the next misfits album comes out, or make some
deluxe package and charge $65 for two songs.

until whoever does that, i will say whoever is holding this shit out on us
is in it for the money. 

and out of curiosity, what did jerry do to get doyle to join the new
misifts cover band?

aaron

------------------------------
 
From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCBBS" 
Subject: .WAV's  & misc.
Date: Tue, 06 May 97 12:33:00 PDT

If you haven't done it, check out Scooter's .wav files of the new stuff.   
 There's about 8 of 'em.  Thanks for takin the time for doin that   
Scooter.
Sounds like this album is gonna' live up to the band's name and the   
hoopla surrounding it all.
Tammy - what's up with the flame-baiting?  Didn't you praise the issue   
that Mark put out trying to get rid of all that?  Sounds like now you're   
encouraging it from Blag.  Yeah he took the first step...why not try and   
go above what he did and get past it all already.  I think Bobby Steele   
can hold his own and stick up for himself if he feels the need to.   
 Otherwise why not drop it and stop tellin the war stories?  No, this   
isn't a flame or an attempt to make you look bad. But it appears you're   
the one who's not lettin it die.....  Yeah, he made his first post pretty   
noticeable, but the times square review he gave really wasn't anything   
different from anyone else giving album reviews, and didn't mention your   
name once.

And that CHiPs episode was hillarious!  I saw it a few years back.  The   
fat cop even had a small demonstration of slam dancing with some lockers.

------------------------------
 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:24:18 -0400
From: Tarry Carapezza 
Subject: weekend

So I went to NYC last weekend.
Got to see a show at the legendary CBGB's, and yes
it was Adam West. Jake and the guys played a shorter
set than usual, but it was 2 o'clock in the fucking
morning! All is forgiven.

Stopped in at Kim's on St. Mark's and found not one,
but two, used copies of 'Dawn of the Undead'. I've
never seen even a new copy of this in DC.

Sunday was a bad day.
I went to Staten Island with the expressed purpose of
going to Wu-Wear, the clothing store owned by the rap
group Wu-Tang Clan. It was closed on Sundays. Not only
that, it was closed until later this month for 
renovations. So, I was in a bad mood. Then I saw 
something that got me really pissed off. Some Pro-Life
mother-fucker decided it would be a good idea to put
a graphic bloody picture on a billboard, right across
from a child care center! ERRRRRRRRR!
Sorry, unMisfits related, it just pissed me off.

>i have noticed that Metallica's "The Four Horseman" 
>of the "Kill 'em All" album sounds a bit too similar 
>to Megadeth's "Mechanix" of the "killing is My 
>business and business is GOOD!" album.
>i found out that there was a demo version of
>Metallica's "The Four Horsemen " called "mechanix" 
>written by Dave Mustaine

I know somewhere I have a boot of Metallica playing
Mechanix live. I have a couple Metallica boots from
back in the day. Scary times.

------------------------------
 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:36:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brett Fama 
Subject: AMERICAN PSYCHO; OZZFEST cd; STATIC AGE cd

1.
Is the official release cover of American Psycho going to be in full
colour? (As depicted in a small ad in the new ALTERNATIVE PRESS
[with the L7 cover], and also in a full-page ad on the inside back-cover
if the new METAL MANIACS) Oris the cover completely coloured in red? (As
in the METAL EDGE that came out a few weeks ago). Personally, the all-red
version looks cooler.

2.
I was told that a cd for the Ozzfest tour is supposed to come out on the
26th of May (or close to it) and will have at least one Danzig song, as
well as one (or more) from each of the other bands that participated.
True?

3.
Someone complained about Caroline's upcoming release of STATIC AGE, which
"mysteriously" contains thepreviously-thought -to-be-never-recorded "In
the Doorway."  Mark already explained why the song was never included on
the box-set, (because Caroline had not yet received the master tape
from Glenn), and I remember him telling me the same thing over a year ago
-- so it has nothing to do with Caroline's greed. Why do you think they
used Franche' Coma's mixing tape for Disc Four, rather than the superior
master tape in Glenn's possession? Because they never had Glenn's copy
until after the box-set was already in production. 

Also, if you feel you are being swindled in being "forced" to buy the new
release for only one song, remember that it also contains unreleased,
undubbed mixes of the 1/78 "She" and "Spinal Remains."  When the box-set
came out, everyone was freaking about how much greater the original SA
mixes were than the LOB ones -- well, now you'll get 2 more originals.

-Brett

------------------------------
 
From: DamagedInc@aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:37:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: VERY cool Misfits sighting

I don't know if it's been posted yet due to my leave of absence, but in
Chasing Amy (part 3 of Kevin Smith's New Jersey trilogy, Clerks and Mallrats
being first) there's a scene in a music stoe. The most prominant CD that is
in every fucking shot is the Misfits collection II CD! Pretty cool...

Tom
AKA: DamagedInc@aol.com formerly WarPigz

------------------------------
 
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:44:58 -0400
From: William Bartilson Jr 
Subject: Dee-Dee Danzig, Megadeth

>From: Dee-dee danzig 
>Subject: THE STUPID KID AT MY SCHOOL!!
>Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 14:30:25 PDT
>
>I JUST GOT MONDAYS BIBLE AND I READ THE ENTRY ABOUT THE STUPID KID TRUST ME HE 
>IS A FUCKING STUPID MOTHER FUCKER (IM NOT SAYING IM NOT) BUT HE HAS HEARD THE 
>MISFITS AND I EVEN SHOWED THEM TO HIM BUT NO ITS NOT THAT ITS THAT HE SAYS HE 
>LIKES THEM TO THE PUNX AT MY SCHOOL BUT WEN EVER I TALK TO HIM ITS AW MAN THEY 
>SUCK I HATE THE MISFITS  AND HE DIDNT START WEARING THE SHRT TILL I TOLD
ALL THE 
>PUNKS WHAT HES SAID ABOUT THEM HE WEARS THE SHIRT JUST TO TRY AND PROVE TO
THEM 
>HE DOES LIKE THEM EVEN THGOUGH I KNOW AND HE KNOWS HE DOESNT
>
>dave
        Yeah whatever.  By the way, I saw someone wearing a tie and
listening to the Misfits!  I kicked him in the shins, called him a poser and
went away.  Umm wait, that guy in the tie was me.  Hmm shouldn't judge by
apearences.

Also Mark Pennington wrote:

>also, (and i cannot believe i've only just now noticed this, taking that
>i have had both albums for more than 4 years) i have noticed that
>Metallica's "The Four Horseman" of the "Kill 'em All" album sounds a bit
>too similar to Megadeth's "Mechanix" of the "killing is My business and
>business is GOOD!" album. and, doing a bit of reading through some old
>magazines i have, i found out that there was a demo version of
>Metallica's "The Four Horsemen " called "mechanix" written by Dave
>Mustaine, former guitar player and lead singer of Megadeth!!!! 'deth's
>version is a lot faster and has a lot of different lyrics

That's cuz Dave wrote the song when he was in Metallica prior to Kirk Hammet.
That's why they are so simillar.

                Wolfsblood.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Enter of your own free will.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: dave rieth 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 14:04:30 -0600
Subject: Vinyl VINYL VINYL VINYL Vinyl

Hey I've got an easy task for everyone
I'm looking for the following:

Die Die My Darling on black any press (caroline or plan9)
Earth A.D. black (caroline or plan9)
Legacy of Brutality on black
Collection I (any pressing)
Collection II (red or black)

e-mail me to with a price suggestion at 
        degenerated@wwdg.com
     or check out my website at:
http://members.tripod.com/~degenerated/home.html
         for trades for video

Dave

------------------------------
 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 16:23:28 -0400
Subject: correction?
From: the late andrew van langen 

hi there. dave mustaine was also in metallica prior to '83. i have their
"no life till leather" demo that eventually became "kill em all" and a
song called "mechanix" was on NLTL. The tempo and everything were note
for note identical to "4 horsemen", just different lyrix. maybe dave
retained some of the rights and put the original version on his megadeth
cd, just at a faster tempo. i dont know...

blessed be,
andy

"                          "
-Marcel the Mime

------------------------------
 
From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com
Date: Tue, 6 May 97 17:16:57 EDT



<....magazines i have, i found out that there was a demo version of

Subject: Misfits vinyl

Oi Oi Oi fiends,
I am looking for really special 'fits vinyl.I mean albums and singles on
Plan-9 pressed on colored vinyl.Also colored vinyl from Caroline like
collection 1 and 2 and stuff like that.NO BLACK VINYL DOESN'T COUNT AS
COLORED VINYL.Oh,does any fiend no how to play a .wav when a web page
loads on someones computer.Like what that dude did from the punk guitar
archive.See ya in the pit!
           Later fiends,
            Punkture

------------------------------
 
Date: 6 May 97 21:54:38 -0400
Subject: american psycho
From: American Nightmare 

I heard the samples it sounds like a great album!

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Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 21:10:21 -0500
From: punkture 
Subject: The new stuff

I just downloaded the AP sound wavs from that scooter website from #330
and I love it.Michael has a good voice.And yeah the guitar sounds more
metal cause the distortion actually has balls this album.This album will
be just as catchy as the previus 'fits albums.So to all the poseur
fiendies out there this album is cool...    Stop your whining!
see ya in the pit!
Punkture

------------------------------
 
From: Faustina08@aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:58:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Great Adventure

Hey, 
I noticed at the characture booth at 6 Flags Great Adventure, they have on
the wall a character of Jerry.  Looks nothing like him.  Thought I'd make my
lame contribution to the bible for the year

                                     ~Tonya~

------------------------------
 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 21:14:40 -0700
From: "Adam R." 
Subject: American Psycho and Ate My Balls

I went to Geffen's page (www.geffen.com) and saw the cover to AMERICAN
PSYCHO and needless to say, it looks fucking awesome.  Does anyone else
think that Graves sounds like the singer from GUTTERMOUTH on the song
American Psycho... the resemblence in there a little bit with the "whiny"
vocals.  As for it being metal.... I think it sounds like the Misfits...
don't worry, it does not sound like some cock-rock band from 7th grade (at
least for me)....

Nice to see someone bring up the Ate My Balls pages on here... Check them
out, especially MR T ATE MY BALLS..... it is the funniest page on the net....

Hasta..

Adam R.

------------------------------
 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Daniel Herrmann 
Subject: My email adventures with Motley Crue

	I recently learned the email address for two members of Motley
Crue.  This is Tommy Lee -  T BONE 00@aol.com    Don't use spaces if not
on AOL.  This is Nikki Sixx - SIXXDOG@aol.com   My adventure begins...

On Sunday, I sent this to both of 'em -

>Tell me about the time that Glenn Danzig, Henry Rollins, and the rest of
>the MiSFiTs chased your asses down the street back in '82.  What'd you
>fags do to piss 'em off?

Tommy's response - "NEVER HAPPENED BIATCH!!!!"

Nikki's - "YA RIGHT..."

Well, Tommy also decided not to accept mail from me anymore (at my AOL
account), and blocked me.  He also has Instant messages blocked.  I guess
Nikki wasn't as smart).  So, I sent him this the following day - 

>Damn Nikki.  You've gone through your whole life spewing heaps of
>bullshit, yet when I ask you a simple question, you deny your past with a
>simple cop out "YA RIGHT..."  How 'bout answering next time with more
>class, and maybe telling some truth? Than again, that would be hard for a
>glam-queen like yourself. By the way - the 80's called.  They want your
>hair back.

Nikki's response - "HEY IF IT AINT TRUE..AND IT'S PUT TO ME LIKE AN
INSULT...YOU THINK I OWE YA MORE OF AN ANSWER....????? DONT E MAIL ME
INSULTS EITHER...I SIMPLY MAKE MUSIC BRO...THATS MY PASSION..."

Which I than responded - "You call that music?"

Oh well.  I amused myself.  I know I'm gonna get some flames for this, but
I couldn't give a shit.  So save your anger for Motley - send them some
crap.  Maybe someone could take the nice approach, and try to get the real
story behind the chasing..

-Tim

------------------------------
 
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 00:49:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Andrew K." 
Subject: Misfit's article Info (Great God Pan)

   
    Last Issue I posted about a magazine called "Great God Pan" which
featured an article on The Misfits. Well here's some info to help some of
you find a copy.

     Great God Pan                  URL:http:theologianrecords/ggp.html
     pob 491 Hermosa Beach, CA.
     90254-0491                     Email: pan@cyberverse.com

     Their telephone # is (310) 379-0906

    Sorry! I did'nt include this info in the last bible to those who
have requested the magazines address.

    Andrew Krol

    andrewk@interaccess.com 

------------------------------
 
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 22:54:43 -0700
From: DEVILMAN 
Subject: VINYL SALE & DANZIG CONTEST

Make me your best offers you creeps!

Misfits - Legacy white vinyl - $75
Misfits - Earth AD yellow vinyl - $90
Walk Among Us purple cover 1982 - $55
Evillive black vinyl 12 inch - $40
Earth AD black  - $10
Legacy black - $10
Evilive re-issue black - $10
Danzig 4p - $10 (sealed)

Will trade for original Misfits photos or original Fiend Club stuff. (prior
'83)
Also you can enter the *DANZIG BLACKACIDEVIL CONTEST* at:

http://www.The7thHouse.com

FANGS,
E-mail me at: Devilman@The7thHouse.com

Another Devil Denied,
DEVILMAN138

------------------------------
 
Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 11:38:05 +0300
From: Bauh 
Subject: Misfits gigs in Finland

		Misfits in Finland

	Misfits had tow gigs in Finland (4/29/97 & 4/30/97). The first gig was
held at Tullikamari, Tampere. People were invited to sing with Graves and
lots of stage diving etc... Really good gig. Jerry said that although there
weren't as much crowd as in the gigs in the UK but the gig was better cuz
people were so crazy. A Finnish tv-show called "Jyrki" (the biggest show
for teens in Finland) interviewed Jerry after the gig and the interview
came out yesterday (5/6/97). It was only a five minute-clip, but it's good
that bands like Misfits can get some time in a TV-show.
	
	The other gig was in Lepakko, Helsinki. I met Jerry and the boys after the
gig in the backstage. They signed my ep's and cd's. Jerry is really a cool
guy and he has a good sense of humour, I gave him "Jerry's Now 38"-lyrics
(made by Tony the Tool, greetings to you) and he laffed a lot. The gig
wasn't so cool because there were fascist guards who didn't let the crowd
to go to the stage. No stage diving... Fuck! Anyways, the crowd was mad at
them. 

	I had my mom's camera with me but it didn't work. Fortunately my loved
friend Tiina took many pics and I can have them. She took some pics of me
and Jerry and so on... If she allowed me to put some of the pics in the net
then I'll do it. I will tell you about it later.

				Bauh

------------------------------
 
From: Eddie Meyers 
Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 02:46:19 PDT

Hello Fiends!
Does anyone know if the new Misfits album will come out in Europe/Germany on may 
13th too ??? Will there be a special edition (digi pack, bonus tracks...)of the 
album ???
I read abut the "punk vs. hardcore" discussion, so that I'm from Germany I don't 
know the differences in the U.S.A. Could someone mail me his/her viewand the 
"common" view? Thanks!

P.S.: Are there any Fiends in Germany? Mail me!

                           Bye,
                                 Edwin

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From: Stewart Muir Gallacher <9243471g@student.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 12:31:11 +0000
Subject: MY MAIL

It has recently come to my attention that some people are having 
trouble contacting me properly- there seems to be an occasional 
problem with my e-mail. If this happens to you PLEASE keep trying!!

Sorry,

stewart gallacher

------------------------------
 
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:09:49 +0200 (MET_DST)
From: Richard Lundberg 
Subject: fiend club package + BEWARE

Hi,
	for all you europeean fiends waiting for your fiend club  packages
i can say that youll probably have wait for a couple of week more. They
probably send the packages out the cheapest way they could and that would
be some kind of surface mail, which takes at least 30 days, ofter longer. 

My BEWARE ep is still up for trade! 
Im looking for any original 7"s. Please email me for more information.

/Richard

------------------------------
 
Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:15:50 -0700
From: adam bodnar 
Subject: american psycho page

Hey everyone,

Geffen now has a Misfits web page for the new album at 
www.geffen.com/misfits/

Check it out, there are pics, sounds, and other good stuff,

Diabolos

------------------------------
 
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 12:07:42 -0400
From: "J." 

I heard Moby is mixing the new Gn'R album.  I also heard  that the drummer
from foo fighters was filling in.  Then again I heard the same about Igor
Cavalera.  Is it me, or would the break up of Fudge Tunnel, and the break-up
of Sepultura be a good reason for Nailbomb to come back?  I'd like that a lot!!!

Cheers

j.

------------------------------
 
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 17:46:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Des Roches 
Subject: misfits fans read this!!!

does anybody know if there are any misfits albums on 45's (juke box
player)if so email me:
brendad@atcon.com

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 00:51:51 -0500
From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.)
Subject: That typical crap...

Hello fiends...

first off since i see someone talking Horror.
Tim, did you check to see if the version of Green Hell is the one from the
1940's or 1950's, big difference.  the first one is more mystery/Drama than
horror, though Vincent Price is in the first one.  the second one is plain
out right monster movie. wasps that turn into giant wasps from test rockets
that fall to earth in Africa.
otherwise the Fly is the Fly, if its on AMC you know its the one with
Vincent Price.  Also if any of you fiends have not seen this movie it is a
must see classic.  damn someone should do a what to rent in horror movies
thing for the bible.  That in japanese animation.  next you know fiends
will be swarming blockbuster ;)

Oh there is one interesting bit i wanted to mention.
it seems that Drew Hayey, who created the Poison Elves comic on Sirius
(orig. from I Lusiphur comic) is a Misfits fan, he goes on about them in
issue #21 of Poison Elves before he starts the comic.  its all part of a
horrorable night out and some cover band.  check it out soon since his
series of comics goes up real quick in price.

well its time to cut out.
Friday, Misfits 101 and the record conventions.
and if anything new goes up for sale.

Later to all the fiendies!?!

tes777(TAMMY)

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Misfits Bible, Number 332 Friday, May 9th 1997 Today's Topics: Operator's Manual TIMES SQUARE - MAY 10 - BUFFALO, NY Re: Misfits Bible #331 notice SIGNED Misfits DISCS vinyl vs CD 138..and why other things don't make sense money looking for vinyl The Misfits are mean my bitchy reply... 138 and other backwards stuff continued... Back in the USSA Mechanix (non-misfits related) Re: Misfits Bible #330 Bobby Steele's Delusion of Grandeur buy max's? Movies For Fiends Misfits US tour date. looking for vinyl New Fits equals mid 80's rolling stone review Chips American Psycho: Oldies or Punk? (please post in next bible) Re: Misfits Bible #331 Metallica Vinyl Re: Misfits Bible #331 Re: Misfits Bible #3 Vinyl Beware 12" + more Bible post Re: Misfits Bible #331 Megadeth AMERICAN PSYCHO!!!!! TSOL & Avengers & american psycho ADAM WEST SAMHAIN American Psycho sound files Misfits poster for sale American Psycho 21 Jump St./ ATR records for sale TAMMY LOVES ME DRI laserdisc American Psycho and other things on my mind American Psycho back HUH?!? Misfits in Vanersborg Help...I need my newsletter!! Horror Hotel url mumbled lyrics, and AMERICAN PSYCHO NEW This is way to confusing... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 07:08:27 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Operator's Manual Ok people - It's finally here. The Operator's Manual Web zine is in action. http://www.magicnet.net/~othello Feature articles for the premiere include: an interview with Bobby Steele - by yours truly Interview with Jake Starr - by d. Dell'erba History of Psychotica - by EVB and there's columns and all sorts of neat HTML that I did. Some links aren't operational yet, but will be *very* shortly. Bookmark this site It'll be worth it. CG http://www.magicnet.net/~othello ------------------------------ Subject: TIMES SQUARE - MAY 10 - BUFFALO, NY From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 07:55:07 EDT TIMES SQUARE wil be at the MERCURY THEATER 435 MILITARY RD BUFFALO, NY ALL AGES ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:25:53 -0400 From: MK Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #331 > From: Brett Fama > Subject: AMERICAN PSYCHO; OZZFEST cd; STATIC AGE cd > > Is the official release cover of American Psycho going to be in full > colour? (As depicted in a small ad in the new ALTERNATIVE PRESS Full cover, like on http://www.geffen.com/misfits/ > I was told that a cd for the Ozzfest tour is supposed to come out on the > 26th of May (or close to it) and will have at least one Danzig song, as > well as one (or more) from each of the other bands that participated. > True? Sort of - no Danzig though. > Someone complained about Caroline's upcoming release of STATIC AGE, which > "mysteriously" contains thepreviously-thought -to-be-never-recorded "In > the Doorway." Mark already explained why the song was never included on > the box-set, (because Caroline had not yet received the master tape > from Glenn), and I remember him telling me the same thing over a year ago > -- so it has nothing to do with Caroline's greed. Why do you think they > used Franche' Coma's mixing tape for Disc Four, rather than the superior > master tape in Glenn's possession? Because they never had Glenn's copy > until after the box-set was already in production. Thanks Brett. And those of you who were subscribed to the Misfits Bible back in October '95 might remember that I announced then in the bible that the song had been discovered. At least I think I did... mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 14:00:06 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: notice Did anyone else notice that Sunday May 4 was the 3rd anniversary of the Misfits Bible? Congratulations folks! mostly, congratulations Mark! ------------------------------ From: mikeseaver@juno.com Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 14:25:54 -0400 Subject: SIGNED Misfits DISCS Well, it has become painfully clearto me that my prices for the Danzig signed COLLECTION I COLLECTION II and WALK AMONG US were too high, so I'll take BEST OFFER. ('cause I need cash desperately). Mail me if your interested, MikeSeaver@Juno.com Everything shipped 1st class/insured... Steve ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 97 15:13:34 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: vinyl vs CD Asenath said "asenath >Subject: vinly vs cd >hmm thats funny at the radio station i worked at vinyl sounded just as >good on the $500 turntables as it did on the $1500 denons, maybe you've >never heard vinyl on a good turntable? anyways vinyl is inherently cooler >than cds. the only thing really better about cds is that you can listen to >cds nonstop with out having to get up every 25 mins to flip sides... I dont want to get started on a vinyl vs CD discussion (i do have a good turntable), especially on the Misfits Bible where most people couldnt give a shit, and this topic is beat to death on regular basis on REC.MUSIC.HIGH.END. Whether vinyl is "cooler" than a CD is really subjective, and i'm sure nostalgia for a simpler time rears its head in these debates, but if you look at the frequency response, dynamic range, longevity, ease of use, etc ... digital recordings perform better ... the numbers don't lie. As far as what people PREFER to listen to, that has no bearing, as neither analog NOR digital give a true represention of the original recorded event ... that has been proved by countless tests in which an LP, a CD and the master tape were all compared and in all cases, the master tape was superior. Both LP and CD have their strengths and weaknesses, and to say one is "better" than the other is really more of a matter of taste. ... In any case, Misfits recordings don't tax the upper limits of either format ..... you prefer LP, I prefer CD .... thats what makes America great .. freedom of choice .. whoever else wants to join this debate ... email me in private .. but dont waste my time AZ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 15:30:02 -0400 From: Craig <@iglou.com:> Subject: 138..and why other things don't make sense This is my First look at the misfits bible and I could not possibly read all the post so if some of this stuff has been said already forgive me.. As for as what "we are 138"! means...I couldn't tell you, if you listen to it backwards the amessage becomes clear however; "YA he doesnt want you...." over and over followed by "your god your god" This also explains why other things don't make much sense because there are many "backward messages" on the misfits albums. Walk Among Us is an example of a master piece of backwards messages. In sculls for example "I want your sculls" is "Destroyer come out" And Twenty eyes is "I freed my anal" over and over. If you don't believe me just put the CD in you computer and capture a wav. of a some part of a song(especially a part that they singing stuff that doesnt make sense) then using you wav maker reverse it...Several of the songs are quite nice backwards as well as forwards. Ps..i have aways like to think that on "138" he says "we are 138" and some times "we are one diry ape" which would make more sence anyway.... ________________ Marduke 3;> |Criag 3;> ________________| ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 97 16:19:00 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: money Hey Bobby. ... where is my peice of the $650,000??? :) az ------------------------------ From: Misfits555@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: looking for vinyl Greetings I am looking the Earth AD caroline repress on vinyl and for a Halloween 7" bootleg. If you can help me out please E-mail me with a price. Eric Salomaki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:22:47 -0700 From: Inzo Subject: The Misfits are mean I borrowed a monitor to check my email from the past 2 1/2 weeks (51 messages) and I read in the bible that the Misfits are selling skeleton t shirts on tour limited to 180. They know I want one and they know they'll be gone by the time they play San Fransisco. I already have bone gloves. Are they going to have more to sell on the U.S. tour? I went to a comic convention 2 weeks ago and it sucked. it was 80,000 square feet but I couldn't find verotik comics anywhere. maybe a Jaguar God 1 or 2 here and there but it sucked. I ended up getting a reprinting of the Mars Attacks card set, The Soundtrack to Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2, about 10 FMOFL magazines and some other things. Does anyone know of some issues of Famous Monsters (Tammy??) that has pictures of the Crimson Ghost? I know issue 54 has a full page picture of him with his arm around Linda Serling. Does anone know where the old Crimson ghost masks came from? Famous Monsters? I know Glenn had like 3, but he has 2 now because he gave one to this kid I know. At the convention I saw this guy running his booth that I know that knows Glenn. Glenn gave his son a Crimson Ghost mask and an autographed band picture of Danzig and I think the Misfits. His son is going to start working for Verotik soon. He wants to me to to the San Diego Comic Con in July so he can introduce me to Mr. Glenn He told me that Glenn have him a spiked bicep band that Glenn used to wear under his shirt when he was started to get big, he said Glenn would flex and it would pop off. Does anyone know anything about this? I've never seen pictures of this. IT must have been late Samhain. Tammy, dig out some of your FMOF if you dare! oh yeah, I looked all over the convention and I could only find Crystar Crystal Warriar number 5 and 6 for 25 cents each. I couldn't find 1 or 8 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:40:22 -0400 (EDT) From: ZOMBIES ate my brains!!!! Subject: my bitchy reply... ok Disco inferno, just because philly acted in a way that you considered misbehaving at a FUGAZI show doesn't mean that the misfits shouldn't play there. The two have nothing to do with each other. The misfits have a lot of fans in Philly (the halloween show last year was there) and these people aren't talking amongst themselves during the show, that's for damn sure. But I'm sure that they will take your little opinion into great consideration when deciding where to play, dear. oh yeah, uh-huh...Leah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Come back!!! And I don't mean the song!" ----me after every [misfits] show ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:38:35 -0400 From: Craig Subject: 138 and other backwards stuff continued... Way in the beginning of the Misfits bible some on asked what 138 meant. I wrote in response that in fact becase of the backward messages that it may meant nothing, because the song is a backwards message. If anyone want to try to listen to the song backwards just use you wave maker to reverse the song once you record it in a wave...note that the Songs are very clever in the way they make sense forward and still have a message backward so you must listen very carefully...here is the Backwards lyrics on "we are 138" as I hear them this is to help anyone that may want to hear the song backwards. Note: Danzig ether says "Yahweh doesnt want you" Yahweh being the Jews and therefore the Christians god, not in hebrew but in "Aramic" I believe. or "YA he doesnt want you" ether way Danzig is Refering to god 3;> Him him him him him <---the 8 8 8 at the end of the song...possibly a reference to the destroyer... Ya he doesnt want you Ya he doesnt want you ya he doesnt want you ya...he docents want you Your your god the god of you ya we worship Satan my god is the devil Ya my god he grows with my sin he wants the death of you you'll cower when he gets you your god don't want you ya..he doesnt want you (repeat)...music fades Other good song to listen to backwards are All most all of Walk Among US for instent Backwards gradication play Skulls backwards(the WAU version is the best) ____________ Marduke 3;> _____________ P.s. sorry for any of that may have already been posted for I just found the bible today and there are many post that I haven't been able to read yet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:33:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Russ... but probably Bryan" Subject: Back in the USSA Hey homeys. My sometimes girlfriend who lives near Philadelphia was at some punk show for some group named Real Big Fish, or something, and they announced that around June 19th (She couldn't remember the exact date) the Misfits would be playing. I dunno where, I dunno when, but at least I got a damned estimate. In Philadelphia, around June 19th. I can't fugging go, 'cause I'm graduating from High School the next day. An American psycho whoa oh oh. ------------------------------ From: MR BENJAMIN W BARNARD Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 20:07:50, -0500 Subject: Mechanix (non-misfits related) I missed something but here goes my take..... Mechanix can be found on Megadeth's 1st album "Killing Is My Business. ...& Business Is Good" It is not a "Demo" version but rather one of the few (only?) musicl scores that Dave Mustain took w/him when he left Metallica. Dave was their first guitar player (before Kirk) and was given credit for writing on "Kill 'Em All" and "Ride The Lightning" If you are into Metallica find the album 'cause it is kinda wierd to hear "Mechanix" after hearing 4 horsemen for lo-so-many years. And it is played faster which is cool. Kinda reminds me of Bobby Steele vs. Jerry Only vs. Glenn Danzig 'cause there has been a Dave Mustaine vs.Metallica thing going on since about '83. So many different stories, so many different takes... ...and US.......Left to wonder...... BEN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:03:13 -0700 From: Inzo Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #330 > > From: vander@nji.com > Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 13:11:37 -0700 > Subject: Harlock T-shirts > > Oi Fiends. > I just wanted everybody to know that I just got my Captian Harlock shirt > from Mark Estes and it's awesome. It's great quality, and he sent it > real quick. GET ONE! > > -graham > who the fuck is Mark Estes? what are you talking about? what shirt? ------------------------------ From: Craig Wieczorkiewicz Subject: Bobby Steele's Delusion of Grandeur Date: Wed, 7 May 97 21:05:31 CDT > fiends. Jerry has just stepped in to reap the financial rewards for > something that I have been the primary one responsible for keeping alive. You've got to be kidding, Bobby. Last time I checked, Metallica was the big name band that endlessly plugged the unholy hell outta The Misfits, leading to the conversion of a whole slew of new fiends, myself included. Not to knock what you were doing, or the fiends that were fiends before Metallica even existed, but I think it is fairly well-established that Metallica pretty much single-handedly brought about the revolution that led to a more widespread acceptance of how great The Misfits were, leading to the much bigger following that the 'fits enjoy today. It's kinda like something that Jerry once said, that Metallica led a lot of people to The Misfits, but The Misfits were the ones who kept the new fans because they didn't suck. Point being though is that if you ask me, Metallica is primarily responsible for keeping it alive by bringing in new fiend blood. (And don't bother to respond with something stupid like "No one asked you.") > So, when you complain about the Misfits coming back for money, it not their > fault because it is really just a current trend in music. But just because it's a current trend in music doesn't mean it's not open for scrutiny. Are you saying that we should like all the mainstream shit that comes out endlessly recycled just because it's "just a current trend in music"? Don't get me wrong though; personally, I'm not (completely) opposed to the Newfits...I'm just making a point. > .. You say formerly of Megadeth .. did that band break up? Nope. As a matter of fact, they have a new CD due in stores next month. > I recently learned the email address for two members of Motley > Crue. This is Tommy Lee - T BONE 00@aol.com Don't use spaces if not > on AOL. This is Nikki Sixx - SIXXDOG@aol.com My adventure begins... When did this change from the Twisted Sister Bible to the Motley Crue Bible? BTW, did anyone catch the original "Psycho" on WGN last Sunday night/Monday morning? Nothing beats watching a little horror business in the middle of the night when you're suffering from sleep depravation at the same time. Keep it evil, Zork. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 22:54:50 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Alan Subject: buy max's? Anybody in a position to find out how much Caroline would sell the rights to the Max's xmas show *undubbed*, were some rich maniac determined to put the recording out? Christ i wish i were a big bad entrepreneur sometimes. But then i'd probably be an asshole & wouldn't want to do anything cool with my money. Unca Teevie >;0? ------------------------------ From: GhoulFiend@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 03:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Movies For Fiends Fiends, Here is my list of must-see flicks for fiends. I grew up watching Vincent Price and Hammer Films but there are probably alot of underprivileged people out there who were not so lucky. So many movies, so little time! 1) The Abominable Dr. Phibes (1971) Vincent Price..need I say more? 2) The Atomic Brain (1964) The name says it all 3) Astro-Zombies (1967) Tura Satana stars and kicks ass as usual 4) Attack of the Giant Leeches (1959) This movie really scared me once 5) Babette (1967?) Ultra-cool and sleazy flick about big city sex addict 6) Beneath the Valley of the Dolls (1970) Sex, drugs, bisexuality, and a grand beheading with a sword... 7) Blacula (1972) It doesn't get campier than this, guys 8) Blood Feast (1963) The one that started it all...that blood looks so FAKE 9) Blood Orgy of the She-Devils (1974) See it for the title and the busty babes 10) Bloodsucking Freaks (1975) I can't help but love it...torture, blood, cruelty 11) The Brainiac (El Baron Del Terror) (1961) Probably the first horror movie I ever saw, it brings a tear to my eye. Being of Hispanic origin, I am very fond of Mexican horror and prefer the Spanish version. Awful paper mache mask, long forked tongue, and bad English dubbing make this a MUST 12) Bride of the Monster (1956) Poor Bela..you can almost smell the death on him here, but he is great nonetheless I am only listing movies made before 1976 since I would hope you have seen anything after that year. Next time I'll continue with the C's. Does anyone out there think Joe Bob Briggs is as cool as I think he is? Yours Fiendishly, Persephone ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:01:53 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Misfits US tour date. Opened the Washington CityPaper to find: Misfits, D-Generation, Damnation AD Thur July, 3 9:30 Club ! ------------------------------ From: chris besaw Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:59:36 -0600 Subject: looking for vinyl IF ANYONE HAS THE FOLLOWING RECORDS THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SELL OR TRADE LET ME KNOW: VIOLENT WORLD 12" ON WHITE VINYL (WILL PAY $30-$45) MISFITS 12": WILLING TO PAY LOB ON WHITE OR RED $75-$100 EAD ON GREEN $100-$125 MISFIT 7": NOTLD $75-$100 WKM 0N PURPLE OR BLACK $75-$150 (DEPENDING ON THE COLOR) 3HITS ON BLACK $75-$100 HB DOUBLE A-SIDE $125-$200 Bullet 1st press $100-$150 SAMHAIN 12": NCF ON ORANGE $65-$80 INITIUM ON WHITE OR RED $75-$125 (DEPENDING ON COLOR) IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME OUT CONTACT ME AT: deadboy@wwdg.com thanks. Chris ------------------------------ From: sickboy@netcom.ca Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New Fits equals mid 80's Well like alot of other people I downloaded the clips from Scooters page.From what I've herd American Psyco is not Misfits.There is a few standout tracks, that KINDA remind you of Glenn's Fits.Everything else sounds the same all blended in.American Psyco sounds kinda over produced,sounds to "nice?" not raw enough.Also the riffs don't sound catchy or hooky,as compared to the older tunes.That's what made the Misfits so great was the catchy riffs like Martin,138,london etc.You can't just right spooky-horror lyrics then through some Kryst over top and call it the Misfits.This album is metal yes but not good metal as in Maiden, Sabbath, or old Metallica.It's cock-rock-glamm-crap -metal, mid80's shit.You listen to "dig up her bones".Can you honestly say its Misfits?If you say yes then call 911 you need help.Its that high voice Michale uses?Why?Had he use the Evil Elvis voice,it be a little more tolerable.plus the go's! are not deep enough.Hate to say it but Glenn Danzig was the Misfits,and Jerry is stuck in the 80's. //Brad// ---------------------------------------------- "We are the nation live and in colour. Don't diss the man, cause we'll bum rush your mother!" --The--Nation--Of-Domination------------------- ------------------------------ From: BJSchuller@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: rolling stone review Ladies and gentelfiends! It seems to me that you guys are placing too much importance on that rolling stone rewiew of American Psycho. Since when did rolling stone know a damn thing about music anyway? They wouldn't know good music if it walked up and bit them on the ass. It's the same with spin magazine, they're so obsessed with trying to be "cool" they have no objectivity whatsoever. Anybody who actually "reads" these magazines is just as vacant-headed and moronic as the people who print that crap. I personally don't care what rolling stone thinks of American Psycho because the entire magazine isn't worth wiping my ass with, so lighten up. The Rat Bastard P.S. I'm sick of all this "see ya in the pit" crap at the end of every post, can't you people think of anything more original to quote. "Ahh.. Fresh victims for the ever growing army of the undead" --Blood, the game, spill some. ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 97 22:19:36 -0400 Subject: Chips From: "fennell" that chips episode was on again i dig pain! You have to admit they kicked ass they pounded people with guitars and generally were too cool for that lame show! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 19:02:31 -0700 From: BAcidEvil Subject: American Psycho: Oldies or Punk? (please post in next bible) I just got my copy of American Pyscho and theres a few things that I am wanting to share. First of all...Is the album supposed ta be classic misfits, new misfits, OR Oldies? To me- All I hear is loud noise and 50's tunes. I really love Graves' voice and the music parts are fantastic, but for the band trying to be the MISFITS, There not doing it. They need to calm down on the "happy" tunes and get Evil. My fav songs for now are American Psycho Walk Among Us Dont Open till Doomsday Also- I am looking for lyrics on these news songs, so can someone please pass em along, or post em. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 21:35:47 -0500 (CDT) From: nick winkleback Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #331 Hey, Speaking of the punk rock Chips episode, I could be wrong, but there may also have been an episode of Quincy with something about punk music and slam dancing in it too. I recall that being kinda funny. Noodles, Nick ------------------------------ From: Daman Adlam Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:50:22 BST Subject: Metallica Vinyl Fiends, I've not really been reading all this metallica stuff but when I saw that things were worth money I took notice. Does anyone know how much the following are worth: Whiplash 12" (megaforce) Creeping Death 12" Harvester of Sorrow 12" One 12" One 7" I've also got the CD singles box thing from the Metallica album. The one where you had to collect all the CD singles. I'd be interested to know. Sorry this has nothing to do with the Misfits. Daman Adlam DIAS MSc UMIST MANCHESTER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 21:35:47 -0500 (CDT) From: nick winkleback Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #331 Hey, Speaking of the punk rock Chips episode, I could be wrong, but there may also have been an episode of Quincy with something about punk music and slam dancing in it too. I recall that being kinda funny. Noodles, Nick ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 97 22:25:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #3 From: "fennell" one more thing the shining sounds awesome ------------------------------ Date: Thu May 8 00:57:29 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Vinyl Yup. I woulda bought the box set on vinyl even if it cost a few bones more. One, they could have fit in on 6 records. Two, they could make a BIG coffin :) Or they coulda made a different package for the vinyl. maybe a crypt or a tombstone. Or they coulda made it with 10" vinyl. That woulda fit on 7 records. :) That would make a nice coffin. Or they coulda released a box with reproductions of all the original vinyl. 7inchers and 12inchers. the whole nine yards with sleeves and inserts. that would be so sweet. Oh yeah... there's a german mailorder place advertising the US pressing of American Psycho with the extra track. But marc beat me to the punch. Now bobby, where's the Max's record? :) --- --------------==============================------------------ "This is only a quote." allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:01:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Lundberg Subject: Beware 12" + more Hi, I just reminded that Doyle and Jerry were chewing chewing gum when they played in stockholm. Doyle kept on making theese bubbles and it looked weird. At the show they were giving away new postcards. They show a b/w picture of a woman with her black curled hair blowing in the wind or something like that. On the back there is tour info and the misfits central url. Ive got some of them and ill trade them for any misfits postcards i havent already got. My beware is still up for trade. Email me! Tammy, thanks for all your collecting info. You rule! /Richard ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 15:07:55 -0700 Subject: Bible post Whats up fiends Two quick reviews. I listened to a bit of American Psycho. It sounds like Motley Crue. Second. I bought The Times Square CD at Trash American Style for $4. I like the Undead much better, but its still a good CD. Worth buying if you havent yet. Bobby, did you ever listen to Four Hits From Mars? Tom Undermine GogmaGod Records Rd 1 Box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, NY 12592 ------------------------------ From: DANZIG8525@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #331 HEY you fuckin banshees listen up. Ive had my advanced copy of American Psycho for about two and half weeks now and i still havent stop listening to it. I mean its not Glenns misfits but then again glenn could never be replaced. I was the first one to say that michale sucked and not to realize that this is going to happen no matter what. But after listening to American Psycho he gets my respect i mean its his own shit and its original. Some of the songs suck bad but those are the ones that jerry wrote. Michale and chud should do most of the writing. The best songs on the album are "American Psycho", "Speak of the Devil", "From Hell they Came", "dig up Her bones", "Ressurection" my favorite on the album, "Day of the Dead", "The Haunting"classic misfits, Dont open till Doomsday and Hellnight. OVerall Doyle has made major progress he kicks major ass. Graves reminds me so much of Joey Ramone they sound so similar. It would be so badass to hear the boys record one more album with danzig i bet it would be great but those are only dreams. My best of luck to the fits and hope them the best. TALK ABOUT ME LAUGH ABOUT ME CRY ABOUT ME-Ressurection, They cut my wrists and watch me bleed- The haunting, Sees his penalty in his sanity your looking throught the eyes of a psycho whoa an american psycho- LATER FIENDS IVE BEEN A FIEND FOR NINE YEARS SO THIS NEW RECORD IS A BIG CHANGE BUT IT GROWS ON YOU BELIEVE ME ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 16:07:53 -0400 From: William Bartilson Jr Subject: Megadeth AZ said: >Mustaine used to be in Metallica .. back in the day so to speak .. before >Kill 'Em All came out.. You say formerly of Megadeth .. did that band break >up? > Nope, in fact Dave and co. have a new album comming out this summer. I'm not sure of the release date though. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Enter of your own free will. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 02:19:51 -0700 From: HORRORKID Subject: AMERICAN PSYCHO!!!!! Just thought I would add my 2 cents in on the AP issue. While it sounds good I can definetly say it 'aint' the Misfits!! They tried to get the same feel with the lyrics but the music while ok is not on par with the old stuff(a testament to the writing of Glenn!). Now dont get me wrong I like the stuff but should they really be called the misfits?? why not just come up with a new name and put a featuring doyle and jerry only from the misfits sticke on it like they did with Kryst.. Ask your self this when you hear it would you buy the album if ilt wasn the Misfits?? IU have sound files and pictures of the front and back covers at my site http://www.zianet.com/horrorkid enjoy monster-kids!! ------------------------------ Subject: TSOL & Avengers & american psycho Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:09:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric J Peterson It's been a long time since i posted to this list. TSOL- in reguaeds to the discussion about frontier records that took place almost a month ago- if your a horror punk fan you need to check out TSOL's dance with me album. Code Blue- nuff' said Avengers- some one asked about them- they were NOT a new wave band, they were one of the most prominate punbk bands in san franciso, they opend for the sex pisotls at their last show in '78 (along with the nuns) American Psycho- why hasn't any one made a flyer that we can down load off the net and post around you communities(ie. record stores, comic shops, coffee houses, punk stores) lastly, if you can find the trouser press homepage (there is a link to th3e misfits entry on the pit) you can find all kinds of info about a lot of the bands there are questions about. off the top of my head i know they have entries for; the misfits, the avengers, TSOL, the necors and many more bands that have been discussed, or had qusteions asked about them. alos if anyone wants to find a copy of the MOVIE astro-zombies, try graveside entertainment, they have a web page at graveside.com i got my copy of the move for $15 bucks later all, the UNSHADOW P.S. my brother thinks that the lyrics for the shineing are" the beast is mean to you" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 17:33:21 +0100 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST Fandango Records presents: ADAM WEST "Mondo Royale" CD (fr-005) 14 all-new tracks that'll kick your fiendish ass! $10 postage paid to address below Free 7" with every order while supplies last Various Artists "4 Hits From Mars" 7" EP (fr-007) Four misfits bible bands (Undermine, Silent Noise, Ripsnorter, and the Idiot Police) cover the misfits 300 pressed total; 100 on black, 100 on gold, or 100 on blue wax Still barely available in colored wax (!) $4 postage paid to the address below Any questions, feel free to e-mail me. Thanks! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * e-mail: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: SAVINI13@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SAMHAIN Hey all, I was in some chat room and I heard this rumor about Samhain getting back together with a new singer. Does anyone know anything about this? I would like to think that if it's true that Danzig will be the head of it all but without him it doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong, I loved Samhain, but unlike the MISFITS I don't see it working without Glenn. Someone help me out on this one. It's hard to believe a rumor. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:26:53 PST Subject: American Psycho sound files From: Mark S Pennington i just downloaded the American Psycho sound files from www.geffen.com/misfits and i love them!!!! i think the album is going to live up to old standards, but i've only heard 4 30 second clips. When i said that Dave Mustaine was former guitar player and lead singer of Megadeth, i meant he was former guitar player of METALLICA. As for the person that asked if Megadeth broke up, they are still around and are going to release a new album on june 14 -ins@ne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 15:23:56 -0700 From: Inzo Subject: Misfits poster for sale I have a Misfits poster that I no longer really care about having so I thought I'd do a little auction. Mint condition, no staple holes Size: length 30 width 22 signed by artist Alan Forbes 96 number 226 of 300 This is a blacklight poster, it glows with a blacklight Description: Picture of Karloff-esque Frankenstein with a CG button purple flames in background All lettering in Orange. From top to bottom is says: MISFITS ANTHRAX Life Cannibal of Corpse Agony All Ages! SAT. AUGUST 17. 1996 The Palace. 1735 N. Vine Los Angeles Goldenvoice Presents Biddings starts at $25.00. Items I will take in trade: Horror Business and NOTLD bootleg together (one deal) Skeleton bone shirt from tour w/gloves An old Misfits poster (ie: Walk Among Us bootleg poster) Evil Dead 2 poster ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 20:05:55 -0400 From: William Bartilson Jr Subject: American Psycho Thanks Horror Kid for the sound clips from the new album! I'm even more stoked for the release than before! The only ones I' was able to get were "don't open till Doomsday", and "Haunting", both of them sounded great. For those who haven't checked out Horror Kids' Horror Hotel site, do so. You won't be sorry. Wolfsblood. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Enter of your own free will. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: kent Subject: 21 Jump St./ ATR The 'punk' episode of 21JumpSt featured Vancouver band Death Sentence lip-syncing (just like 'puttin' on the hits'!) Agent Orange tunes. I believe that episode also had future 90210 star Jason Priestly in it as Tober - short for October, his favourite month, cuz that's when everything dies! Has anyone heard Atari Teenage Riot? Their CD 'Burn, Berlin, Burn' is insane. And it sounds like at the begining and end of 'Not Your Business' they've sampled the opening riff of 'Who Killed Marilyn'. There's Bad Brains and Sex Pistols samples all over the rest of it as well. Sorry I don't have an opinion on the new Misfits CD because, well, I just don't care anymore. Although I do think the whole Static Age + 3 new tracks re-issue thing seems *very* unusual. I wouldn't be surprised if come next Halloween 'Collection 3' is put out... ------------------------------ From: al_simmons6@mail.geocities.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:47:35 +0000 Subject: records for sale Remember fiends...i still have some vinyl up for sale Misfits Evilive 12" on green LOB 12" on white Collection I Collection II on green Die Die my darling Wolfsblood/Earth AD german press Earth AD black vinyl Samhain Last Gasp 7" November Coming Fire 12" on orange vinyl Danzig 4p first pressing I also have alot of meatmen, gg allin, some necros and other punk records Pat Reagan al_simmons6@mail.geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/area51/vault/6387 ------------------------------ From: Blagripper@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: TAMMY LOVES ME Yes it is true Tammy, the reason why you cant shut up about me is because you are simply in love me, the very best looking man in show business, Blag Jesus! If you cant figure out why i am not a fan of bobby's then that is your problem, most already know and feel the same way i do, but that is another story and as far as the new Misfits lp goes.....It is gonna kick everyone's asses. Then Bobby can say he deserves credit for the new lp as well, LOL...later choads.....Have a nice day, chicos :) Blag Jesus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 21:09:22 -0500 From: TONY BRIDGES Subject: DRI laserdisc HeyHeyHey hellhounds! I have what I believe to be an out-of-print laserdisc of DRI...it's called Live at the Ritz; N.Y.C. crossover world tour... since i'm not a particular fan of theirs, I might trade or sumthin...it was recorded 6\27\87...thanx crypt33@ldd.net ------------------------------ From: EEdiot103@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 01:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: American Psycho and other things on my mind Fiends! Anyone who can find copies of American Psycho on red vinyl after it comes out, PLEASE let me know! I'd love to get it. Same with Static Age when it comes out. Also, I downloaded the 8 wav files from Scooter's Homepage, and, so far, I really like what I hear! I have to admit--it's quite different, but the catchiness and campy horror style doesn't seem to have left them. If this is the case on the whole album, then it's a winner in my book! I'll make sure to review American Psycho, the Violent World tribute, and the 4 Hits From Mars tribute for the next issue of Vibrations of Doom Webzine www.kmf.org/~cl/vod_home.html Oh, and don't worry about Rolling Stone. If I'm not mistaken, you see how Natalie Merchant's CD "Tigerlily" was way up there in the charts, even though they gave it a star and a half (I know, this really has nothing to do with the Misfits, but it's almost the same case--at least to me it is). One more thing--something to ponder on here. I think one reason why Glenn would not get back together with the Misfits is because they are on Geffen Records. I remember him saying in an interview several years ago (around the time of Lucifuge) that he hated David Geffen and did not want to deal with him. His opinion, I guess. I think the Misfits are better off without him. Let's face it--it's a new band, a new beginning, but it's all in the same vein! EE Fiend (Chris) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:16:58 -0700 (MST) From: Nicholas B Brown I know there have been numerous posts about selling this so i would appreciate it if someone out there could help me out. I am looking for Metallica's garage days on cd. Please email me promptly because i might not be around here for much longer. Thanks... Nick B. ------------------------------ From: Hrrmnn8or@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 03:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: American Psycho back On the back of American Psycho, it says under Doyle's name, "Wolf Von Frankenstein". Anybody know why? If you'd like a picture of it, let me know. I also have the album cover, and a new band photo. Email me and I'll send it your way. Hopefully someone can answer my question. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 09:47:10 +0000 From: Julian Baldry Subject: HUH?!? Anybody know why Doyle appears to be going under the name "Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein" on the back cover of American Pyscho? Surely he can't be serious.... ------------------------------ From: SoB Johansson Subject: Misfits in Vanersborg Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:22:14 +0200 Hi guys! Well, there's probably been a million postings about the show in Vanersborg, but I've been having comp problems for a while now, so I haven't read any. Here's my views on the event in question. This evening fucking rocked, man. A lot of bands, mostly hardcore though. Come to think of it, it was only hardcore with a couple of exceptions. The first bands I missed, but what the hell. I was there for the Misfits. The final three bands (Integrity, Refused and The Misfits) played full sets. Refused, the second last band, had a cool comment about playing in between Intetgrity and Misfits: "...we end up playing between the tough guys and the _really_ tough guys..." The audience laughed... After the Refused show, I got my records, which I had brought in case I would have the chance to talk to the Misfits, and placed myself outside the backstage area. The security guy who would keep guys like me out of the backstage area said I wasn't going to get a chance to come in. We'll see about that... Finally, I spot Jerry in there and calls out to him and asks if the guys could sign some stuff. No problem, just come on in. I try to get in, but the guard, who looked quite annoyed that I bothered the main band just 20 mins before the show, stops me. Then Jerry comes to the rescue! "Hey, let him in. Just this one." The guard just shrunk to about 2 inches in height and let me in... Ha! In your face, muthafucka! Jerry was cool as hell, and took me into the Fits dressing room, where all the guys signed my entire vinyl collection + my jacket. They were very cool to talk with. One of the organizers wanted to take some pictures and even asked me to be in the picture with the Fits. Unfortunately I said I wasn't part of the crew. Dammit! After that I left and let Jerry keep my gold pen, since he asked if he could keep it. On the way out I just laughed at the security guard. The show fuckin killed every concert I've been to. The songs, of course, were excellent. The guys really gave it all they got, and they looked really happy. The crowd just went fucking nuts and sang along to all the old songs, and even to the refrain in a couple of the new songs. The only song I missed was "She", but what the hell. I had gotten my stuff signed, so I was just happy as shit. The guys came back for an encore, and finished off with "DDMD". Then Doyle threw his neck sweatband into the crowd. With a fucking acrobatic jump I caught it! Man, was I in heaven! Then the guys left for Stockholm I believe, 'cause they didn't stay on stage afterwards. I received a number of hugs and kisses by fiends who "wanted to share my joy of catching the sweatband". Nice :) All in all, a fucking great evening. If any of the fiends out there gets hold of a video of the show, I gotta have it! Well, that's my 2 cents. Hope you could bear with me, since this was a little late, I presume. Fuck it up! Soren E-Mail: sb.johansson@karlsborg.mail.telia.com Web: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/2419 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 20:10:54 +0100 From: JOHN KLINGNER Subject: Help...I need my newsletter!! This isn't really death,this isn't really life,this isn't really anything I think I like...where is my newsletter???I signed up in September of 96 and I live not 20 minutes from the Caiafas themselves---so why haven't I gotten my letter?My brother and his fiancee haven't recieved theirs yet,either and they signed up at the show on 11/1/96 at the Chance in Poughkeepsie, NY.I tried e-mailing the Fiend Club but every time it got returned by everyone's best friend the Mailer Demon....if anyone from the Fiend Club reads this...please respond! Margaret Holmes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 11:49:47 -0400 From: William Bartilson Jr Subject: Horror Hotel url I neglected to include the URL for Horror Kids' page mentioned in my last mesage. Here it is. http://www.zianet.com/horrorkid Hopefully this will make the Friday bible. Wolfsblood. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Enter of your own free will. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Misfit4798@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: mumbled lyrics, and AMERICAN PSYCHO Fiends, What's up? Well i was listening to the undead yesterday, and i realized that Glenn was not the only misfit to mumble lyrics. At one time, before i had bought "Act your rage" on vinyl, i had no lyric sheet. I remember singing the lines of "Eve of Destruction", like: "You can eat your next door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace." and "Even the Jordan river has violent floodings, but you tell me...." and many other Misfits/undead/samhain songs. Michale also does this. I got the Amer. Psycho promo a couple of weeks ago, and it sounds like Mike says: "Don't open till tuesday, the instructions, my father wait!" (Don't open Till Doomsday) Just to add my two cents, American Psycho is fucking awesome! A lot better than i had expected. Every song sounds great. There are no filler songs on this album, and no off the wall songs (except for "Day of the Dead"), which is awesome anyway. I'm sure alot of people are going to compare that song to "Amer. Nightmare", but oh well. I remember at the 10-30-96 Memory Lane show, where they played "Amer. Psycho", (instead of "the haunting" as requested by me. Jerry gave me some lame excuse after the show like it's hard for Michale to sing it live or something. I think he was kidding.) and thinking how good of a song AP was, but on the CD it's even better. Overall the whole CD flows perfectly. Personally i love the new Misfits. And dare i say it, but i think this may be one of the best, if not the best Cd's the misfits have ever put out. Don't get me wrong, I love the old stuff, and "Static Age" will probabaly always remain my favorite. Besides I've invested too much money into 7"s and 12"s to not like them. Don't flame me for this it's just my opinion. But don't take my word for it. Go buy the CD on tuesday, and see if you agree with me. Also check out Geffen's page, it's great. www.geffen.com What's up with Doyle von Frankenstein? Does anyone know what the bonus song on the vinyl of AP is going to be? If you check out mark's page he list's about 4 or 5 songs that were recorded for this album, that are not going to be on AP. Like Angel Baby, Death of the fallen angel, Talons of steel, etc. And what about the 7 songs recorded last year, and the two Iggy Pop tunes? I guess all things in good time right. -Later Drew Alcoholocaust ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 12:24:17 -0400 From: aaron pacitti Subject: NEW to everyone who i have outstanding deals with or anyone who will need my address... my new email addy is npacitti@msn.com ================ please mail me at that one to check up. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 00:39:20 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: This is way to confusing... Hello fiends... first thing, well i hate to break your heart Tim, but the version of Green Hell that was on "MONDAY" and only monday, was the original 1940 version with Vincent Price and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. not the one about the giant Wasps. Though if you read the lyrics to the song, i don't think that Glenn was reffering to a movie about giant wasps. David, well the phone # for Taang is 619-499-5156, i tried e-mailing them, but there is still something wrong with the e-mail from their web page. Also, Taang is no longer in MA, they are now in CA. I still don't understand that one, a label famous for Boston Hardcore and now they are located in California, go figure! Ask for Curtis, or if he's not around and Scott is still doing mail order. By the way, posted on the web page is the location of their store, yes they have a store that sells classic vinyl as they put it. Just to clear some stuff up, i usually do not flame fiends for no reason what so ever. there is a reason, if you have been reading the bible since last year and knew the on going bullshit from Blag. otherwise and please don't take this as a personal attack, please take your nose out of this situation. I really feel no need to justify what i say to anyone, again there is reason and has nothing to do with protecting Bobby, he can do a nice job of that on his own. Misfits 101... Record Conventions... plus some other stuff Well as we hit the weekend again its time for some record cons. May 10, Atlanta, GA; Chicago, IL; Louisville, KY; Lewiston-Aubum, ME; Wayne, NJ; NYC, NY; Charlotte, NC; Greenville; OH (10 - 11); Chambersburg, PA; May 11, St. Paul, MN; Lancaster, PA. that is it, and just a reminder so that i don't get lots of e-mail asking if these are tour dates for the Misfits in the US again. THis is the deal, these dates are for RECORD CONVENTIONS, if you want to go just e-mail me the city you want to go to and i will give you the info (time, admit fees, and addresses). Best bet, go when it first opens, keep yourself level headed, ie don't go nuts from seeing all the tables and boxes of records, start with the first table and go through the records, also ask the dealers if they have anything from the Misfits, Samhain, Danzig or whatever you really want. don't get over worked when you ask and they say yes. its a bad version of playing poker, you don't want to lead them on and then have them jack up the price. or worse, they have no clue the value and you triger their minds, wait this stuff might be worth something. Plus the usual, if you see something you want, decide then and there with the record or what not in hand. once you put that puppy down kiss it goodbye. We have talked trading before, but not what would be an equal trade for a Misfits record. If i was trading a copy of Cough/Cool, what would you give me? What non Misfits record is worth the quaoted $425? Think about it, and this will be on Monday's Bible. What is an equal trade for Misfits records, ie. Misfits 101! Hope all of you fiends have a great weekend, see ya back on Monday. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Misfits Bible, Number 333 Monday, May 12th 1997 Today's Topics: Re: Bible #331 [LATE] Re: Misfits Bible #332 MARK! Pushead Discog/Comics My excuse for the comp tape/CD Re: Misfits Bible #332 Re: My bitchy reply... Part 2 of my recording experience. (VAX network) Misfits Flier supporting un-official webpage Horror Movies Samhain Quincy three years chips and quincy Mourning Noise reunion, WFMU Fiend Club Newsletter Mystery / Troc guitar/request.tab Re: Misfits Bible #332 Leah Shut the fuck up already!!!! RE: Mumbled lyrics Bobby Steele - Never Say Die Collection 2 green vinyl see-through? Re: Misfits Bible #332 Re: 332# comic stuff Hymn 187 the misfits kick ass resistors news letter!!!!!!!! MEGADETH's new album stoned misfits RE: SAMHIAN TIMES SQUARE SHOW Two little things.. Town Whore Records Movies For Fiends CDs for sale Vinyl still for sale Re: Misfits Bible #315 New Danzig EP Just some more stuff to learn... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 23:48:28 -0400 (EDT) From: BF Subject: Re: Bible #331 [LATE] > > From: Bobby Steele > > Tell them you want the original tapes with Bobby Steele on guitar - not > > the FAKE re-recorded version. No matter how bad it might be - technology > > exists that can fix almost anything without re-dubbing tracks. Or why not at least re-dub them with YOU on guitar? > > He's nothing but a liar, hippocrate and he's conned a lot of loyal fiends Jerry's a doctor? ($20 says 1/2 of the subscribers don't get this one) > > Unlike both Glenn and Jerry; I have always been proud of being a MISFIT. > > Halloween 79 video. While they were both denouncing THE MISFITS; I was I sometimes wonder if Jerry's anti-Misfits coments during the 1980s were not simply intended to lash out at Glenn. I don't have any exact quotations, but if I'm wrong, then all of that "Christian righteousness message" he was preaching against the evil of the Misfits and Samhain was either the product of dementia, or a joke. As for Glenn, he seems ready to talk about the Misfits, under the right circumstance. (ie: don't walk up to him and start asking about 15 year-old news). > > touring and keeping the legacy alive by playing MISFITS songs for our Samhain and Danzig also performed Misfits songs regularly, at least until Danzig had enough original material of their own. > > fiends. Jerry has just stepped in to reap the financial rewards for Well, you obviously believe that Jerry's refounding of the band is more than coincidental with the recent retro-punk explosion, and the financial gains he stands to make are obvious. However, many people seem to overlook the fact that Jerry couldn't reform the band until he had the legal rights to the name -- in March of 1994. (? Mark, correct date?) > > something that I have been the primary one responsible for keeping alive. ??? No offense Bobby, but prior to hooking up with Mark, I never knew that you and the Undead were still around. Nor, I think, did most of the people currently into the Misfits. If anything kept the Misfits' legacy alive, it was Glenn's (re-)release of Misfits records, his continued production of Misfits t-shirts, the success of Danzig, and the support of Metallica. Now it's time for 10-15 idiots to post messages bragging how they were around for the original Misfits in the early '80s, or how they discovered the band through some non-Danzig, non-Metallica, non-mainstream way. Too bad such people are very insignificant drops in a vast ocean. > x> Then he stole about $70,000.00 of my share of the $650,000.00 advance > > that CAROLINE paid for the box set. He did the same to Joey Image and > > Googie too. I don't claim to know anything about Caroline or the record-company business, but wouldn't they have to make the cheques payable to each individual member? If so, how could Jerry exert any influence over anyone else's share? Also, it's no one's business but yours, but I find it hard to believe that the individual Misfits (or Caroline for that matter) made that much money off the box-set. I especially find it difficult to believe that the members got that much since only Glenn appeared on every song on the set, and he gets double (40%) of what the others do. (Although he, too, claims to have received nothing). > > From: gorgo > > don't worry too much about rolling stone giving american psycho one > > and a half stars. when danzig 1 came out, it only got one star. Wrong. Three and-a-half stars, and the absolute only criticism the reviewer made of the album was that Albert King was not credited for writing "The Hunter." But this is totally irrelevant anyway, since Rolling Stone probably employs many album-reviewers, especially over the nine-year period that separates Danzig and American Psycho. Album reviews (or anything else you read) are the opinion of the individual author, not a corporate entity. -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 00:30:20 -0400 (EDT) From: BF Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #332 > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) > well i hate to break your heart Tim, but the version of Green Hell that > was on "MONDAY" and only monday, was the original 1940 version with > Vincent Price and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. not the one about the giantWasps. > Though if you read the lyrics to the song, i don't think that Glenn was > reffering to a movie about giant wasps. Of course, we all know that the lyrics to "Green Hell" (and most other EAD songs) that are in the box-set are 80% wrong, so we'll never know to what Glenn was referring. On another note, not necessarily related to any issue of the Bible in particular, I must say this: There is way too much useless, totally unrelated garbage on the Bible. This has been going on for well over a year now, and although most of the flaming stopped after Mark tried to clean the Bible up a few months ago, it still takes me a good 1/2 hour to sift through the pointless messages, most of which are filled with horrid spelling and indecipherable nonsense. I am a fast reader, and it takes that long, sometimes longer. Worse, I come away with little or nothing of value that I didn't already read elsewhere. People seem to be obsessed with posting their idiotic stories, theories, and and jokes; everything from an uninteresting anecdote about how some "poseur" at some school dares wear a Misfits shirt, as to how many incidents in which the average moron can uncover the number 138 in a given day. It was never funny the first time, and it's just getting older and stupider. Misfits, Undead, Samhain, Danzig, Chyna, Bighouse, etc. -- all of these qualify for inclusion in the Misfits Bible. Metallica, Motley Crue, and the tv show CHIPS do not -- or at least do so only in *extremely* limited circumstances. When I say "limited" I mean that a Metallica reference better be centered around them covering Misfits songs, or appearing on-stage at a Samhain show, etc -- if you are reasonably intelligent, then you get the picture. Mark, you said you don't want to censor postings. Don't censor; edit. There is a difference. Eliminating pointless junk is not censorship, since you would not be excluding posts on the basis of the opinions they present, but rather on whether those opinions are of interest to the average reader of this list. Like it or not, you started the list, and you are its editor. Just a suggestion. -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:41:52 +0100 From: Jake Starr Subject: MARK! mark, the washington city paper just anounced the misfits playing at the 9:30 club on july 3 with d-generation and damnation a.d. opening. so much for letting local bands open for them on the road! now i'm pissed! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * e-mail: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: David Marek Subject: Pushead Discog/Comics Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:26:00 -0500 Two items for ya today. Paul & I have been working on the Pushead Discography and I have the latest version up on my website: http://www.hot1.net/dmarek/index.htm I'd appreciate any help in completing this. Also, I'll be looking for scans of covers in the near future. Mark, Mucho big thanks for the link. Secondly, I'm getting rid of my entire Verotik Collection. I'd love to use this in a trade for records. The comics that I'm getting rid of are: VEROTIKA 1-8,10,11,13,14 SATANIKA 0-3(MINI)1-6,X JAGUAR GOD 0-4 DEVILMAN 1-3 DEATHDEALER 1,2 IGRAT 1,2,X, ILLUSTRATIONS GE ROUGE 1 GOTH 1,2 DE ALBINO SPIDER OF DAJETTE 1 VENUS DOMINA 1,2,CANDLEMASS EVE VEROTIK CHRISTMAS CARDS JADE EAST 1 all of them are bagged, boarded, etc. and of cpurse, you'vegot to be at least 18 to get them David "Even if you choose not to decide... you still have made a choice" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 13:46:06 -0500 From: GHOUL Subject: My excuse for the comp tape/CD Well, I'm not going to be around for comments or complaints, but I'll tell a little story about making the Fleshworms submission. Brad and myself worked on the songs She and Skulls, and brought in a bassist to do some live stuff. Well, we went and got a 4 track one night, but then 4 other people show up right when we (Brad and me) were about to record. Well, anyone in a small band can tell you that when you tell people you're trying to get on a CD Comp., everyone tries to get in on the act. So, we humored them and came up with a poor recording. The guy who's never played the songs turned his guitar up loud and played it with a "wokka-wokka" sound. It blew. The next night, Brad and me rushed to geta good cut with just us--unfortunately we recorded bass/drums at the same timeinstead of guitar/drums. We took the first cut of 'she' on the tape... To be continued..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:03:38 -0400 From: MK Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #332 > From: SAVINI13@aol.com > Subject: SAMHAIN > > Hey all, > I was in some chat room and I heard this rumor about Samhain getting > back together with a new singer. Does anyone know anything about this? I > would like to think that if it's true that Danzig will be the head of it all > but without him it doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong, I loved Samhain, > but unlike the MISFITS I don't see it working without Glenn. Someone help me > out on this one. It's hard to believe a rumor. I wonder how "they" are going to pull this off. Damien is touring with Iggy Pop, Steve Zing is still recording and touring with Chyna, Eerie is moving to the west coast, and London May is still in Louisville with the Amazing Chan Clan. That leaves Glenn - does anyone know what he's up to? > From: Hrrmnn8or@aol.com > On the back of American Psycho, it says under Doyle's name, "Wolf Von > Frankenstein". Anybody know why? If you'd like a picture of it, let me It was a just a random spur-of-the-moment joke. > From: JOHN KLINGNER > Subject: Help...I need my newsletter!! > > This isn't really death,this isn't really life,this isn't really > anything I think I like...where is my newsletter???I signed up in > September of 96 and I live not 20 minutes from the Caiafas > themselves---so why haven't I gotten my letter?My brother and his Believe it or not, due to some weird error, the newsletters never made it out of the post office! mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:22:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Sulzbach Subject: Re: My bitchy reply... Ummm, the halloween show was at the troc. And it was damn good. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 15:24:30 -0500 From: GHOUL Subject: Part 2 of my recording experience. (VAX network) After mixing and all, both Brad and myself weren't pleased with the 4-track cuts (too slow and some mistakes). Honestly, we play a lot better and given the time, the songs would have been better. I put the live tracks we did with a guest bassist on my submission--AZ would probably vouch that they're better. Well, for the vocals, neither of us has ever sang before. I didn't know I was that low--Both of us sound the same when we talk. But, none of us are glenn. Well, I'm glad to have been a part of the comp with the rest of you fiends. Ghoul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 17:13:42 -0500 From: Rob Hall Subject: Misfits Flier supporting un-official webpage hi, I was in a record store the other day and I picked up a bunch of the fliers promoting "American Psycho" and at the bottom is says "Misfits on the Web" and it gives the URL for Misfits Central. Is Misfits Central the "official" Misfits Site? I am curious because lately major Corporations (i.e. Geffen Records) have been cracking down on un-official web sites. Why did they not put the geffen page down (not that this is a bad thing). Oh...does anyone have a "Horror Business" bootleg they want to sell. Bill Hanscom hanscom@shore.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 17:36:42 -0400 From: "J." Subject: Horror Movies Does anyone have a copy of the cheesy movie, Cannibal Campout? If you do please e-mail me. I need a copy. If you see it in the videostore, offer to buy it and I will send a cheque. I love that movie, it's so bad. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! On a lighter note. Is anyone going to the Hanson Brothers Show at the Vault in St. Catherines? Let me know. Cheers J. ------------------------------ From: XSTIFSIMx@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 17:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Samhain What's up, I heard about that Samhain reunion too. I talked to the guy who says he's going to be the singer but he has no band, just himself. That was a while back so if he has a band now then maybe it's true, but I doubt it. Anyone out there who actually knows Steve Zing, can you ask him and let us all know if this guy is for real? Or better yet, ask Glenn if he can sing as good as he did. Later... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:46:46 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Quincy >I could be wrong, but there may also have >been an episode of Quincy with something >about punk music and slam dancing in it too Quincy is one of my favorite all time shows. The episode your talking about is hilarious. It contains a line that goes something like, "Don't you know you'll never amount to anything if you keep listening to that garbage?" To which I reply, "Really? Hmmm, well I graduated from college, got a job at the US Senate, and I live on my own." One of my traveling partners from last year's summer tour just finished up her Master's Degree and is going for a PhD next year. Gosh, I hope we amount to 'something' someday. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:04:20 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: three years three years? oofa! time flies something something... thanks, Mark, for Misfits Central. ryqman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:07:22 -0400 From: shro@ptdprolog.net (Droog) Subject: chips and quincy >Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 21:35:47 -0500 (CDT) >From: nick winkleback >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #331 > >Hey, > > Speaking of the punk rock Chips episode, I could be wrong, but >there may also have been an episode of Quincy with something about punk >music and slam dancing in it too. I recall that being kinda funny. > >Noodles, > >Nick Yeah I saw that episode. Thats where the Quincy Punx got their name. The Quincy Punx also sing that song that was on Chips. Thats in case anyone gives a damn pete =============================== "Each one of us, in his timidity, has a limit beyond which he is outraged. It is inevitable that he who by concentrated application has extended this limit for himself, should arouse the resentment of those who have accepted conventions which, since accepted by all, require no initiative of application. And this resentment generally takes the form of meaningless laughter or criticism, if not persecution. But this apparent violation is preferable to the monstrous habits condoned by etiquette and estheticism" --Man Ray, Paris 1934 ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Misfitmole@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Mourning Noise reunion, WFMU Hey!!! I hope some of you guys caught the MN reunion last Thursday (5-8-97), on WFMU. Sounded amazing. Look for the MN cd coming out next month on Grand Theft Audio. If you missed the reunion show, don't miss Chyna when they play on WFMU on June 18th, and us when we play there on May 29th. WFMU is based in East Orange, NJ, and is 91.1 on the dial. All the cool shit happens on the Pat Duncan show, Thursday nights from 11pm to 2am. By the way, I hope you who got the Action Park videos like it. Cheers, Joel from Squiggy. ------------------------------ From: SHEENA138@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 21:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fiend Club Newsletter Mystery / Troc Hi everyone, I just got back from disney world (yes I'm sick of happy people), and I was paging through the past few issues for which I was not home to read, and I noticed that people have been complaining about not getting the fiend club newsletter. I am so glad, I thought that me and my friend's addresses had got lost or something. I thought that it would be here by now, it's been like three weeks since they were sent! I want my newsletter too! If one of those people that wrote about not getting thier fiend club newsletter gets it soon let me know. Lastly, the debate of Philly between the Troc and the Electric Factory Hmmmm for the Misfits Definatly the Troc. I has just the right kind of atmosphere. Megan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:43:17 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: guitar/request.tab Any Misfits/Samhain/Danzig/Undead/et al songs not on this list have been transcribed and are located at: http://misfits.plan-9.com/guitar.html transcriptions needed: ---------------------- UNDEAD: "hollywood boulevard" "i don't wanna feel the pain anymore" "i'm so happy" "invisible man" "lies" "shadows" "strange creatures" KRYST: "in god we trust" "trial of the soul" "march of the mega-mites" "spellbound" DANZIG: "anything" "bodies" (guitar riff) "left hand black" (rewrite) "hand of doom: version" (danzig riffs) "power of darkness" "ashes" (piano chords) BLACK ARIA: "conspiracy dirge" "battle for heaven" "retreat and descent" "dirge of defeat" "and the angels weep" "the morrigu" UNEASY LISTENING: "cinerarium waltz" "nightmare" "the witches lament" "into the light" questions/comments/submissions/updates: ryq = ryq@aero.org ------------------------------ From: "PSYCO78" Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:11:04 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #332 Hey Mark, What is this shit people have been saying about Jerry "forcing" Doyle to go along with the band reforming? Do you know anything about it? Also, to those people that say the new album sounds like Motley Crue or 80's metal, you are obviously "punker than thou" idiots who wouldn't know a good tune if it was sucking your dick. Ive heard it and it is not 80's metal. Dont be fooled by these morons, people. Lastly, I noticed on the record that HellNight is not listed. Is the bonus track going to be on the non promo CD? Is the vinyl going to have the same bonus track? Ill get both if that is the case. Later ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 23:42:31 -0400 From: Xdisco infernoX Subject: Leah Whatever. Anyone who thinks the Electric Factory is the best venue in Philly just hasn't been to enough shows. Granted the Troc isn't much better and is basically the only venue large enough to hold one of the band's shows, the Electric Factory isn't the answer. I've seen many shows there (including CIV and Orange 9 who aren't all that similar to fugazi) and the place sucks "and thats the bottom line cause STONE COLD said so..." There's no way in hell I'd attend a Misfits show there... but thats just my opinion and if you don't like it... I could almost care. xDisco Infernox ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: Shut the fuck up already!!!! God damn!! If we added all the "2 cents" people have put in about American Psycho, I bet we would make around $138. To all those people who have been fortunate enough to hear the "promo copy" or whatever, quit your bitching!! Fuck. Give the rest of us "unlucky" ones a chance to judge for ourselves. I mean, it comes out in on Monday (today by the time your reading this), and than all of us can judge on our own. To those stupid fucks who say stuff like "It's cock-rock-glamm-crap-metal, mid80's shit. Reminds me of Motley Crue!" Shut the fuck up!!!! And than there's those that compare it to Glen's Misfits. It's NOT supposed to sound like the danzig era Misfits, after all, he penned most of the music himself. The new Misfits are doing a hell of a job of exceeding expectations, all while being in the shadow of Glen. And than there's some people who say it's "kryst the conqueror with spooky lyrics", while they haven't even heard Kryst before! So to all of you that think the new shit sucks, hold your thoughts within your ignorant mind and keep the Bible free of "my negative review of American Psycho". To that hate breader guy - Why do you hate bread? and to Craig Wiecdorkiewicz I agree fully with your point on Metallica, but than you said - >When did this change from the Twisted Sister Bible to the >Motley Crue Bible? I gave the address for Motley Crue so that all of us could bomb 'em with hate mail, and try to get the "real story" behind the chasing incident of '82. So fuck you! -Tim ------------------------------ From: leedguitar@juno.com Subject: RE: Mumbled lyrics Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 04:37:05 EDT Hey, I jsut thought I'd comment quickly. There was a post on Bobby mumbling the lyrics on Eve of Destruction...the song was actually not written by the undead...it was written in the 60's or something...I had an old high school teacher bring in the album and play it, and she also gave us the lyrics...I remember her saying that it was an anti war song. When I heard it I knew that it sounded familier, but it wasn't until sometime later that it clicked that it was the Undead who covered it. I apologize, this is probably old news, but I thought that I would just share that little bit of info. L8Ter, Lee Leedguitar@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Hrrmnn8or@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 05:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Bobby Steele - Never Say Die If you haven't done so already, check out the interview that CG had with Bobby Steele. You will learn alot about the man we ALL have questions about. Discussing his life with Spinal Bifida, HIS story behind the expulsion from the band, a funny story on when he got arrested for "stabbing", and much more. Check out Jim's web site at http://www.magicnet.net/~othello/ Thanks Jim! -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 08:22:54 -0500 From: punkture Subject: Collection 2 green vinyl see-through? Ghouls and Gentlefiends, Yesterday I got Collection 2 on a see-through green vinyl.When ya'll talk about "wax",what do you mean?Is this wax?Or is it just cool see-through vinyl? Punkture ------------------------------ From: JTder@webtv.net (Jeff Tallent) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 03:18:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #332 LP, CD, I've got you ALL beat! I have an old Flea Market Bootleg of the early 7" & stuff.......on 8Track!!!! Your Friend, Jeff JTder@webtv.net Spam belongs in a can, NOT in an E-mail box! http://members.tripod.com/~JTder/index.html ------------------------------ From: vander@nji.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:17:10 -0700 Subject: Re: 332# Inzo, Mark Estes is selling the Captian Harlock T-shirts (the one Glenn is wearing on the cover of WAU) E-mail him at pigkiller@hotmail.com ps: Does anyone have the Ghouls Night Out bootleg??? I spotted it at a local record store for like $25. Is there any stuff on it that isn't in the box set??? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:43:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel J. Jakel" Subject: comic stuff If anyone is collecting Verotik stuff, i have Verotika #5: Bad Girls of Horror Issue. I don't collect comics, I just bought this to see what Glenn could do. It's just sitting in a drawer in my room, and is still in near mint condition. Email me an offer and we can put something together. Also, fans of Spawn should be happy because he animjated Spawn cartoon is premiering on HBO on May 16th at midnight. If anyone doesn't get HBO and really wants to see this, I am gonna tape all the episodes and I can give them for free to any willing soul. It's supposed to be as bloody and violent as the comic book, so unlike the upcoming live-action movie, its going to be true to form. (Movie is due out in August FYI, and is aiming for PG-13 rating). --Dan-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 13:57:33 -0700 From: Grandpa Atomic Subject: Hymn 187 Good day everybody. Shameless plug: I got a column in the Operator's Manual. I had to beg, plead, and go to Denmom and CG's private casting couch, but I got one anyway. First one = bad, but I take responsibility. It's still a fun read and I was mean and used the word fucking a lot so the kids would dig it. Next one = better. Come check it out. Since I will be a good boy and answer Tammy's record $$ questions... Folks, these records are certainly a varying value...there is no Punk Collector magazine with a going price, because finding an average price is impossible, save to say Americans will pay much less for these records than foreigners, especially the Germans and the Japanese and one Italian to remain nameless, all of whom will probably pay up to triple in some cases of what we'll pay, mainly because they are unable to find these records otherwise while we constantly find one or another in the $1 bin at the local record shop. The prices on these seem to be a matter of what you'll pay or how much the person can get. But in terms of trading there are certainly "tiers" if you will, where each record is on a level worth either a record of that equal level, or more of lower levels. This is probably the trading key. In general, I'd say there are probably four or five levels of American punk...I'll put records below that seem to fit. #1 (nigh-impossible: records in this catergory at the moment have in some cases ten or less copies circulating in the world. prices can reach up to $1000, and in some foreign cases up to $2000. bad sentencing there, sorry.) EXAMPLES: Tapeworm - Break My Face, Absentees - Tryin' to Mess With Me, Misfits - Horror Buisness (black vinyl), Hugh Beaumont Expierience - Cone Johnson, Vomit Pigs - Take One (the last record is debatable for this, but I've seen foreigners with $1000+ offers for it. The Eat's Communist Radio is steadily approaching this catergory as well. Thee other four are virtually non-existant.) #2 (in-demand: there are probably fifty or so copies of this record in circulation or in existence and accounted for, sometimes more sometimes les. often many of these are stashed somewhere, waiting to be found...ala the Gears, which was in huge demand until it was discovered the guitarist had 100, and plop, it plummeted. these are still so in demand they can get up to $300 US and probably up to $500-800 or so foreign.) EXAMPLES: Eat - Communist Radio (in my opinion the record to have from America), Misfits - Cough/Cool, Mad - I Hate Music, Child Molesters - Wholesale Murder, Dogs - Slash Your Face, Fix - Vengeance, Necros - Sex Drive, Meaty Buys - Cut A Fart, Huns - Busy Kids, Bobby Soxx - Hate In The 80s, Zero Boys - Livin In The 80s, Fun Things - Where Birdmen Flew, Eppu Normaali - Nipa, Cringe, et al. #3 (getting in demand or just located in mass #s: these records probably have more copies or are less in demand music-wise or have gone down because many numbers have been found, or are just easier to find with say up to a hundred copies in record collections worldwide. sometimes though it is because there are just discovered and will probably just rise higher in the future. often worth about $100-150 for the US collectors, can go up to $300-400 for those in foreign countries.) EXAMPLES: Panics - Wanna Kill My Mom, Sick and the Lame - Ate Days A Week, Misfits - lotsa stuff (this is the fiend level here), Rejects - Back To School, Dogs - Slash Your Face, Detention - Dead Rock And Rollers, Next - Mr Wonderful, about every other US KBD record and many foreign ones #4 (more recent or less interesting: this is where most of the hardcore records of old seem to fall, as they can't reach the real high prices, and there is also where records that are often from 77-83 but are either very bad or have just gotten booted with a perfect clone or whatever seem to go. Under $100 US, usually $50-75, foreign probably add $25-75 depending on the record.) EXAMPLES: Well, I was pretty clear before. For Misfits, say later stuff, I think Misfits stuff is selling for far more than it's worth these days, look at how common these sales are all over the world, oh well. There are paint smears, on everything I own, christmas cards to which I never reply... #5 (really recent or stupid stuff: duh). There are certainly many other things that fit into each catergory, but it seems as sensible a way as any to judge record worth, which is a very unsensible thing in itself. Oh no, the new Misfits record is coming out! ARGH! Music dies before us. Well, I will have to pick up the vinyl just to give it a fair shot assuming my advance tape had some serious flaws (maybe mishandling in the mail caused the overdose of cock rock, bad vocals and stupid lyrics, it's been known to happen) and I'll make sure to keep you posted on how well it sells in my neck of the woods, although it will be extremely interesting to watch the Billboard charts, it'll give me an excuse to go back to the New York Public Library. They really need to get some crazy library investigators. Also, I haven't bothered to read the Rolling Stone review because I'm far too prideful to touch an actual copy of the magazine, but if someone could e-mail me a copy of the thing, I would be grateful, I'd like to read it muchly, as it seems for once Rolling Stone and I agree on something. Those of you who like horror and appreciate that good comics are the stuff of the gods are highly recommend to check out Preacher and Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, two of the only things worth reading these days. Also, the new series Squee! from the JTHM creator is friggin' aces too. And don't forget Scud + Stray Bullets. Comics are great. Finally, to morons using the Bible as a personal flameground, I personally couldn't care less as I just skip over your idiotic ramblings, and I'd encourage everyone else not to read such pointless dreck anyway. Just stupid little kids looking for attention. Seems to be the tagline for anyone whose address ends in @aol.com, or who mixes their name as the singer of a once-offensive band and the symbol of the once-powerful church. GRAMPS ------------------------------ From: Otis228@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 13:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the misfits kick ass When other bands do covers of misfit songs they think they can do a shitty job I think danzig should kick that fucker from earth crisis in the head repatedly . ------------------------------ From: GAGNON JEAN-FRANCOIS Subject: resistors Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:00:15 -0400 (EDT) Yesterday I bought Tiny Scars by the Resistors. I never heard anything from them but the cover looks very similar to the Samhain's covers and one of the members wear a Samhain t-shirt Anyone know something about that band? ---------- About Michael voice, someone mentioned that he soud like Joey Ramone. I think he sounds more like Cj Ramone. Luther the GEEK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:54:56 -0500 From: Gregg Subject: news letter!!!!!!!! Hey feinds, I was wondering if there has been some mailing disfunctions or something with the feind club. I mean i still haven't got the news letter.I have asked if anyone knows whats going on many times on the bible but no one has replied so please REPLY!!!!!!!!! Also, does anyone know where i could find any misfits vinyl in Kansas. I have only been a feind for four years and i am only twelve years old and don't have that much money so if anyone knows where i could find any cheap misfits vinyl tell me please!!!!!! And, does anyone know what the bonus song will be on the AP vinyl. And if anyone has beware and are willing to sell it please e-mail me and give me your price. Does anyone know what the "Ghoul's night out" record is worth. Because i have it on clear vinyl and i bought it for thirty bucks and then saw it at some store for only ten bucks!!!!!!!Also, i recall seeing a fit's record and i don't remember what it is called but it had a red cover with glenn, jerry, googy, and doyle on the front cover and i remember it having devil's whore house and last caress on it. It also cost thirty bucks. if anyone knows what this is please respond!!!!!! later,Brian Give into what you cannot fight, walk among us:misfits. ------------------------------ From: Hrrmnn8or@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 22:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: MEGADETH's new album JADE6134@aol.com has a promo cd single for Megadeth - entitled Trust, for $5. I myself hate Megadeth and Dave Buttstain, but figure with the recent talk of them on the Bible, someone might be interested. I do believe it's from the new album. Ask her. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 00:45:35 -0600 From: Opus Subject: stoned misfits After listening to it, I don't think I could have said it better myself: "Graves does a credible imitation of Glenn Danzig. But the singer's generic vocals are as likely to career into Dexter Holland territory or a pointless Elvis imitation ("Day of the Dead"). The band seems desperate to claim the Misfits' self-proclaimed legacy of brutality ("Walk Among Us"). But this album feels less like the Misfits and more like Elvira. There are few hooks and no memorable songs on "American Psycho."" But I think this sums it up: "All this longtime fan can say is, "Quick, Van Helsing, a stake." -RICHARD ABOWITZ, rolling stone Now, I know you guys don't give half a shit what someone from Rolling Stone has to say but I think he makes a rather good point. As I've said since the resurrection, Jerry should have left it alone. Too bad about his giant ego. Michael http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit ------------------------------ From: Faustina08@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 04:23:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: SAMHIAN >From: SAVINI13@aol.com >Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:25:01 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: SAMHAIN > >Hey all, > I was in some chat room and I heard this rumor about Samhain getting >back together with a new singer. Does anyone know anything about this? I >would like to think that if it's true that Danzig will be the head of it all >but without him it doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong, I loved Samhain, >but unlike the MISFITS I don't see it working without Glenn. Someone help me >out on this one. It's hard to believe a rumor. > Jason Jason, I know what you are talking about. There is a person whom I have been speaking with on AOL claiming that he is in the prosess of getting Samhain running again with himself singing. I belive he said Glenn will be producing it (or something of that sort). I will mail him a copy of your post in the bible and perhaps he might respond will more info. Im not sure what I can say, nor do I want to confuse things, as I don't exactly remember everything that was said. I dont know if you chose to believe this as truth or a rumer, but this is what I was told. ~Tonya~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 97 19:03:47 UT From: Nick Pacitti Subject: TIMES SQUARE SHOW well, well, well, i made the 3 hour drive from good ole cleveland up to buffalo to see times square saturday nite, and let me tell you, it was well worth it. these guys (and gal) really have their shit straight. they were amazing...everything was so tight, they were loud, and they were pretty friggin funny to. and to top it off, they were genuinely nice. every question was answered, they signed anything. it was great. they all were talkative (no doyle's) and very friendly. they even had the whole kick ass, NYC, teaser/peep-show image going. the first 2 bands each wanted bobby to join em on stage for a misfits song, but he wasnt around when the first band played horror hotel, but he did join the second band for vampira. i was a bit upset that times square didnt do at least 1 misfits or undead song, but the rest of their songs were so cool that it really didnt matter. bobby was lookin sharp in his spiffy torn spandex pants, and jill pretty much gave every guy in the place an instant hard-on. man, if you dont like their music, at least go see them to catch a glimpse of jill. man is she a looker. they played most of their CD (which rocks by the way...pick it up if you dont have it). headshrinker ruled, and learn it was a great closer. they are a good old fashioned punk band from NYC. they get straight to the point, no bullshit. they play loud, they play hard and they play good. they sing about porno and titty bars. then they threw in a couple of hooky covers (wild west, yummy. yummy, yummy) and even they were cool. jill can really play the guitar, she is incredible. and bobby has some neato bass lines. bobby made the offer of giving the first girl to show her tits a free TS shirt...and there wasnt any delay. then dave offered a free cd to any non guy/guy couple to come on stage and do a sex show...and there was a girl/girl duo who jumped (literally) on that offer. then jill managed to get a few guys to show her their ass. i liked bobby and daves ideas better. :) this is just a taste of their in-between-song song act. they crack jokes, yell at each other and do all sorts a shit thatll make you laugh. there was undead stuff for sale and the times square cd and a cute little shirt...all cheap. a cd for $7! how can you go wrong? anyways, do yourself a favor and go see times square next time they play in your area. its not expensive to get in, you get to see bobby, you get to hear incredible music. what else do you want? go see em next time they come around. show your support...you will be glad you did. these guys/gal are rollin now and they are picking up speed really fast. you just wait and see, they will make a nice scene for themselves. they are creative, funny and good...thats a pretty good combo if you ask me. spread the word...times square is out, and they mean business! aaron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 01:54:57 PST Subject: Two little things.. From: Wes Hedger I, too really like TSOL. Didn't they become an 80's glam rock band though... i think epitath owns the rights to their material now b/c when i was looking through some cd comps and came across punkorama 2, it had Code Blue on it. I also like Joe Bob Briggs, devilishly handsome man, if i do say so myself. Didn't he host a semi porn show on cinimax or showtime called Joe Bobs drive-in or something? Later, Wes ------------------------------ From: zombie65sh@wku.campus.mci.net Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 23:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Town Whore Records Sorry for the non-related post. Town Whore Records is still accepting tapes for the Fall 97 Compilation. We may even release a full length by some bands. Covers and Originals are both welcome. Please email me for a .txt file that contains all of the details. Or if you can catch me in #misfits I'll give you the details there, my nick is ^Jackal^. Thanks, Smitty Town Whore Records ------------------------------ From: GhoulFiend@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 03:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Movies For Fiends Fiends, I left off on the B's and now I will continue with the C's. 13) Castle Of Blood (1964) Barbara Steele at her finest in this ghostly chiller 14) Cat Women On The Moon (1953) cheesy catsuited Amazons in space 15) Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things (1972) This movie is so eerily cool it defies description. I want an Orville too! Gravedigging, zombies, implied necrophilia make this one of my all-time faves! 16) A Clockwork Orange (1972) Ultraviolence, Beethoven, Moloko Plus and extraordiary sets, costumes and twisted vision of the future make this ESSENTIAL TO ANY FIENDISH SOUL 17) Cocaine Fiends (1936) You've heard of Reefer Madness? 18) Color Me Blood Red (1964) Made after Blood feast and 2000 Maniacs, this one leaves you in stitches ( not the good kind) 19) The Comedy Of Terrors (1964) Vincent Price, Peter Lorre and Boris Karloff as undertakers who need business bad! 20) The Corpse Grinders (1971) Humans are ground into cat food. This is hard to find but worth it. Don't forget to check out the cardboard grinder! 21) The Crawling Eye (1958) Eye decapitates humans..Jerry's favorite 22) Creature From The Black Lagoon (1954) The coolest underwater costume ever and it scared the hell out me when I was growing up. 24) Creature Of The Walking Dead (La Marca Del Muerto) (1960) Me and my Mexican horror...so campy....so terrible..so nostalgic 23) Creeping Flesh (1972) Creepy..Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee in this movie about and ancient corpse and a serum created from it 24) Creeping Terror (1964) Ridiculous sneaker-wearing alien on the rampage. Should be called "Attack of the Killer Carpet" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------- Geez..didn't even get to the D's this time. I'm beat. Not like anyone really cares anymore, but my favorite tracks on AP are American Psycho, Crimson Ghost, Blacklight, Hate The Living Love The Dead, and without a doubt the #1 song (in my opinion) is Dig Up Her Bones. This song could not possibly kick anymore ass. I dropped acid one night and had my boyfriend paint me to look like the Pushead drawing (and model kit) "Rising From her Shadow Blood". Then he videotaped me coming out of a coffin and dancing to this brilliant song..my song. Hearing Michale croon "I have seen the demon's face" or "walk me to the graveyard dig up her bones" fill me with an unholy passion such as I have never felt. I truly believe this album will be the groundbreaker for Jerry and Doyle to get the fame, fortune and recognition they deserve. Mike and Chud are talented songwriters and Doyle has really sharpened his axe. I have been a fiend for 15 loyal years and will be there long after the dust settles from their explosive resurrection. Yours Fiendishly, Persephone ------------------------------ Date: 12 May 97 08:46:09 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: CDs for sale Still available .. Misfits Legacy of Brutality on CD. Plan 9 release. $15 or best offer .. postage paid Misfits Collection II on CD - Caroline release. Mint. $7 postage paid. $20 for both. email me if interested. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:07:08 +0600 From: "J.B. Kendrick" Subject: Vinyl still for sale I still have a 2nd press black Initium for $10. I'm also selling all three colored vinyl of the 4 HITS FROM MARS tribute from Jake Starr. JB ------------------------------ From: nvb4@roden.se Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:51:46 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #315 At 14.38 1997-03-31 -0500, you wrote: YO! I wonder if there=B4s any swedes here on the misfits list, cuz I really need some of those bootlegs that I read about here on the list. Here in Stockholm, Sweden, we don=B4t have the access to bottlegs like you have in= the states, the only vinyl records I can get my hands on are the usual WAU, LOB, COL. I and Earth A.D. I think it would be great if I could get my hands on some live stuff, except Evil Live which I will buy as soon I get some money, and also some old classics i different versions. Does anyone know if the coffinshaped box really is such a great box, there are a lot of different opinions about that boxset, some think its just great, but other think its like you=B4re buying the records that you allready have, except for one= song, I can=B4t recall the name of the song right now. And one more thing, I= wonder if anyone knows when the "Misfits" are releasing their new album. Anyway, I wrote because I want to be able to get som rare stuff, so if anyone knows where I can get it here in Sweden, please let me know. e1v3i8l Robert Nordstr=F6m NVB4RONO@RODEN.SE UNITE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:14:44 -0300 From: Romulo Subject: New Danzig EP I've read in the April/May issue of LiveWire Magazine an interview with Glenn where he talks about the recordings of a new EP with unreleased material that will be avaible for summer 97. (north hemispher) "WHEN THERE'S NO MORE ROOMS IN HELL THE DEAD WILL WALK THE EARTH" DEVILOCK - BRASIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 01:32:08 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Just some more stuff to learn... Bible shit----------------------------------------------------------- Hello fiends... Well first thing, Eric, that guy that wants the Earth AD repress. Vinal Edge Records has them the last i saw in their ads. the # 281-537-2575 Mike, being that i just read your challenge i'll pull them out and post the infor for Wed. Bible, and yet i have quite a bit of them. well being that my mom got me hooked when she bought me my first issue in 1977. plus i have filled in several gaps with ones i got real cheap at some shows. i do know of several issues that have the Crimson Ghost, also in that spin off Forrest J. did before he started FM back up again. there were only 4 issues and one of them had a CG photo in it. Also there was a mag back in the day called Thriller something that had CG story for an issue. In the newer issues they FM uses a CG paying money to a hood and they linked it to their subscribtion notice. Though just give me till Wed. plus you do know there is a CG model that was put out some time ago and not by Jerry. I don't remember the name of the company right off my head but i can look it up.i think it was a vinyl piece since it was $75, and that is too cheap for a resin model. Plus to all the horror kids, who have cable and get Encore: this week you can catch The Abominable Dr. Phibes, The House of Usher, and still they are showing Phantom of the Paradise. Plus to all the Japanamation fans there is a new film floating around that Viz will be taking to video who knows when. its a great film if you know anyone with a copy of it. its called X - The Destiny War. if you know dealers who sell all the stuff for the movies, you can find the posters and wall scrolls for the movie too. the style is Akira as far as the anima goes. Misfits 101... Comparative Value... well as i posted friday and gave you fiends a chance to think it over, what would be an equal trade for a Cough/Cool. How many fiends would out right get screwed on a trade. Right now the records that are in the $400+ range are: Necros - Sex Drive, Fix - Vengeance, the Eat - Communist Radio, Big Boys - Frat Cars, Huns - Busy Kids; plus a couple others. Some say Nirvana - Love Buzz is up there but i've seen that go cheap - $300 or less. So after reading this, how many of you know of these other bands or even these records i'm talking about? You can't trade with someone if you don't the other records. cause there are few deals based on Misfits for Misfits. Most of the time its Misfits for someone else. Right now there's a guy on the Bible willing to trade(your in luck Misfits for Misfits) a Beware, what would you give him? its a $325 record, he wants Misfits 7"s. What Misfits 7"s would be an even trade for a Beware, or a single 7" an even trade? Give him a Cough/Cool you loose $100, now we would be talking color vinyl and ultra rare. Not even a White vinyl Three hits is up at the level with a Beware, $175 - 200 if you go by Glenn's CA standards. What if he wanted a non Misfits item. what would you do then. When i say you have to know other records and the value of what you want too, its right on the line. unless you feel the need to loose money. the Misfits 101 list on Misfits Central is only the first part of not getting screwed. The next step is knowing your records. Wed Bible we take another step into learning to really trade without getting screwed. By the way, for that Beware, i would say a White vinyl Three hits and a Horror Business would do the trick. Horror Business at its highest is $160 and never under $100 anymore. otherwise you would have to give up a couple of (3+ pieces) 7"s. IF we are talking a non Misfits trade, maybe the first Fear 7", or Hugh Beumont Experience 7". otherwise we would have to take a couple pieces again and that depends on the guys want list. Though most good collectors/Traders want the big pieces. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Misfits Bible, Number 334 Wednesday, May 14th 1997 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible #333 Re: Misfits Bible #333 sam reunion ADAM WEST Okay, so now I just have to slam the idiot Opus the troc Re: the misfits kick ass SSD & Descendents talk about Misfits rolling stone Newsletters etc etc HOW I DISCOVERED MISFITS some commentary posting issues to teh bible page Mark Estes and Famous Monsters and Big House, plus info send me please?! Don't buy this (no, I'm not talking about American Psycho) AP on Vinyl AMERICAN PSYCHO American Psycho philly fiends American Psycho Iggy Just A Quickie American Psycho and Hearses American Psycho Whatever happened to "Dead Kings Rise"? and other stuff New CD Movies For Fiends Re: Bible #331 [LATE] I'll die happy now.. Howdy from the prez yawn Re: Misfits Bible #333 XstifsimX & New Samhain American Fuckn Psycho Re: Misfits Bible #333 Bible Post SHITT Misfits Bible American Pyscho Misfits Bible MATT MALLEO, WHERE ARE YOU? Just way to much bullshit... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #333 From: undead@juno.com (bobby steele) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:14:44 EDT Here are my replies to Monday's bible. The Friday issue is on my New York computer, so I have to wait to get back out there to finish my responses to your posts there. The next TIMES SQUARE show will be on Monday, May 26th at TOMPKINS SQUARE PARK, in New york City. It's free!!! So come on down. >From: BF >Subject: Re: Bible #331 [LATE] > >> > From: Bobby Steele >> > Tell them you want the original tapes with Bobby Steele on guitar >> > the FAKE re-recorded version. No matter how bad it might be - >> > exists that can fix almost anything without re-dubbing tracks. > >Or why not at least re-dub them with YOU on guitar? I offered that to Jerry. I'm really convinced that his motives are to avoid giving me one penny - out of fear of the kind of competition I could give him if I had some oney to work with. >> > He's nothing but a liar, hippocrate and he's conned a lot of loyal >fiends >Jerry's a doctor? ($20 says 1/2 of the subscribers don't get this >one) HEH HEH HEH. Even Spell-checker missed that one. Then again - he has performed several "wallet extractions". >> > Unlike both Glenn and Jerry; I have always been proud of being a >> > Halloween 79 video. While they were both denouncing THE MISFITS; I >I sometimes wonder if Jerry's anti-Misfits coments during the 1980s >not simply intended to lash out at Glenn. Either way - it's Jerry's old "foot in mouth" disease. > As for Glenn, he >seems ready to talk about the Misfits, under the right circumstance. In fact; I just got an email from someone who says he brought up my name to Glenn recently, and Glenn reiterrated the fact that the band was at its best with me and Joey. >> > touring and keeping the legacy alive by playing MISFITS songs for >Samhain and Danzig also performed Misfits songs regularly, at least Absolutely!!! But he refuses to talk about the FITS publicly. Remember the HEADBANGERS BALL episode ? >> > fiends. Jerry has just stepped in to reap the financial rewards >Well, you obviously believe that Jerry's refounding of the band is >more than coincidental with the recent retro-punk explosion, It goes back to JERSEY BEAT #40 (again). where he admits that no one wanted his band unless he could deliver THE MISFITS. >financial >gains he stands to make are obvious. However, many people seem to >overlook the fact that Jerry couldn't reform the band until he had the >legal rights to the name -- in March of 1994. (? Mark, correct date?) He's playing the P T Barnum angle. >> > something that I have been the primary one responsible for keeping >alive. >??? No offense Bobby, but prior to hooking up with Mark, I never knew >that you and the Undead were still around. Nor, I think, did most of the >people currently into the Misfits. I guess I'm not making this very clear. Sure Glenn played some of the songs, but he refused to talk about it. Jerry did nothing. I did the songs and answered any questions. While Jerry had thrown away everything (practically) - including the only other copy of the Halloween 79 video - I still have everything . . . including posters that no one has seen since those days . . . unless they've been guests at my parents house. D-rod has seen some of these, one of which is in very fragile condition and I'm trying to find a way to preserve it. It was silkscreened with oil-based ink onto a silver mylar surface (only 5 were made) and the ink is falling off. > If anything kept the Misfits' legacy >was Glenn's (re-)release of Misfits records, his continued production Again. That was only for the money. >Now it's time for 10-15 idiots to post messages bragging how they were >around for the original Misfits in the early '80s, or how they I was there ; ) >> x> Then he stole about $70,000.00 of my share of the $650,000.00 >> > that CAROLINE paid for the box set. He did the same to Joey Image >> > Googie too. > >I don't claim to know anything about Caroline or the record-company >business, but wouldn't they have to make the cheques payable to each >individual member? Not when someone CLAIMS to be acting as an agent for all the members - which is basically how Glenn, and now Jerry had done. CAROLINE is still liable nonetheless - which is why they were a subject in Jerry's lawsuit - and now mine. >else's share? Also, it's no one's business but yours, but I find it >hard to believe that the individual Misfits (or Caroline for that >matter) made that much money off the box-set. That's the amount that both Jerry and Franche have told me. In fact Mark and EVB were witnesses to Jerry's saying that at the CHILLER con. I don't know why Caroline paid that much, but apparently they did. > I especially find it >difficult to believe that the members got that much since only Glenn >appeared on every song on the set, and he gets double (40%) of what >others do. (Although he, too, claims to have received nothing). According to fairly reliable sources; Glenn got $70,000 too. This is part of what's so confusing. No one wants to give a straight answer to me or anyone else - which is why I'm suing Glenn, Jerry, CAROLINE . . . fuck; I should sue Michael Jackson while I'm at it (I don't know why, but it seems to be good for publicity) >From: leedguitar@juno.com >Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 04:37:05 EDT > >I jsut thought I'd comment quickly. There was a post on Bobby >the lyrics on Eve of Destruction... Eat your next door neighbor. Sometimes the misunderstood lyrics are even better. I had a basss player who filled in on a tour in '90, who sang "It's a real life 3-d movie" instead of "It's a real life b-movie". He was embarrassed at first, but I told him I like his line better anyway. >From: GAGNON JEAN-FRANCOIS >Subject: resistors > >Yesterday I bought Tiny Scars by the Resistors. I never heard >from them but the cover looks very similar to the Samhain's covers and >of the members wear a Samhain t-shirt Anyone know something about >band? This is the brother of the guy who runs ROTZ/WE BITE (America) records mailorder. It's a damn good record. sounds like a cross between the MISFITS and SAMHAIN. You'll see pictures of me wearing their t-shirt (the one with the guy with a big scar across his face). As far as I know, this was their only release. >From: Nick Pacitti >Subject: TIMES SQUARE SHOW >well, well, well, i made the 3 hour drive from good ole cleveland up >buffalo to see times square saturday nite, and let me tell you, it was >worth it. these guys (and gal) really have their shit straight. they >were talkative (no doyle's) You can't get Jill to shut up. One time, she had pneumonia, and spent an hour explaining to me how it hurt when she talked. I said, "so, then shut up!" > then they threw in a couple of hooky covers >(wild west, Actually, that's an original. >yummy. yummy, yummy) and even they were cool. then jill managed to >to show her their ass. i liked bobby and daves ideas better. :) She made the club owner show his pubes - for a free t-shirt. >From: Romulo >Subject: New Danzig EP I sure hope this one redeems B.A.D.. Knowing Glenn - it'll be a better job than the first. He always manages to snap back. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:01:18 -0400 From: MK Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #333 First, several big things - Please read: 1) Fiend Club newsletters (aka the Bleeder's Diegest) were NOT mailed out. Again, they have NOT been mailed out. They were brought to the post office and supposedly mailed out about a month ago, but Doug Evil just recently discovered that they were still sitting there. Some of you have received copies indirectly, either through Doug or other sources, but the official mailing has yet to go out, due to some bizarre mixup. They'll go out soon. This is all I know. 2) Static Age - July 15th, on Caroline Records. 3) Be sure to check out the new Operator's Manual with the greates Bobby Steele interview ever. If you liked Mike Stax's interview of Jerry Only in Ugly Things #12, you'll like this too: http://www.magicnet.net/~othello 4) Samhain reunion - this is NOT happening. Sorry everyone. Steve Zing just emailed me to let me know that he thought it was a hilarious joke. By the way, be sure to check out his band Chyna at the Spiral in New York City on Wednesday May 14th (tonight!) at 8pm. 5) Tour dates for the US - I have none! The band is still in Europe, and when they come back I will get all the confirmed dates at once. Ticketmaster is apparently advertising about 5 dates that have been supposedly confirmed - 2 in New York City, one in New Haven, CT, two at the Middle East Club. When I have dates I will post them. Please remember this! 6) American Psycho is not out on red vinyl as I was originally told. I don't know the numbers yet, but it out on HEAVY BLACK vinyl with the bonus track "Dead Kings Rise." 7) Email - I will lose this email account at some random time during the next 2 months. I do not know when. I will also be going on various trips and moving to DC, so I'll be slightly busy over the next few weeks. Please try to keep email to msk4m@virginia.edu to a minimum. I logged on this morning and had 114 messages! It gets tough, especially when I'm short on time. I like hearing from Fiends though, and I'm glad to answer questions, but often the questions I answer have been posted to the Bible or are available on the web page. By the way, the web page is permanently located at http://misfits.plan-9.com/ and will remain at http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m for a short time. The Misfits Bible will continue, have no fear. > From: Jake Starr > Subject: MARK! > > mark, the washington city paper just anounced the misfits playing at the > 9:30 club on july 3 with d-generation and damnation a.d. opening. so > much for letting local bands open for them on the road! now i'm pissed! I'm just not sure what's going on with this... While they're overseas, the band had a promoter set up some dates, which we're now seeing, and I guess somehow they got matched up with those 2 bands... > From: Rob Hall > Subject: Misfits Flier supporting un-official webpage > the fliers promoting "American Psycho" and at the bottom is says "Misfits > on the Web" and it gives the URL for Misfits Central. Is Misfits Central > the "official" Misfits Site? I am curious because lately major Misfits Central has been the "official" (or as official as the Misfits get) web site for several years now. I'd like to see a copy of this flier. Was it put out by Geffen? mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:24:50 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Alan Subject: sam reunion The rumor of a Samhain reunion sound awfully silly to me since effectively Samhain never died, only changed its drummer and started calling itself Danzig... Teevie >;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:25:30 +0100 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST here are some ADAM WEST gigs coming up: Friday, May 16, 9 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Polyplush Cats, Johnny Love & Speed Hyatt's East Side in Baltimore, Md. Saturday, May 17, 11 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Polyplush Cats Sheba Cafe/Cadillac Club 2224 18th Street, NW, DC, in Adams Morgan Friday, May 23, 9:15 p.m. ADAM WEST CBGBs 315 Bowery in NYC Thursday, May 29, 9 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Betty Blue, Clark's Ditch Black Cat 1831 14th Street, NW, DC hope to see some of you there. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * e-mail: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: "Marina 'Bank Girl' Libbey" Subject: Okay, so now I just have to slam the idiot Opus Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:53:43 PDT I sat down to read my misfits' bible, mind you though I've been pretty fucking fed up with all of this petty bulshit arguing about who the fuck is punk and what not, and scanned through it and pulled up to an entry- Stoned Misfits. I scanned through it and DAMNIT!!!!!!! This idiot- Opus just put in all these petty opinions from rolling stone magizine about how the boys in black just haven't cleared the approval mark for all of thier OLDER fans, and some of their newer fans. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE????? I still haven't heared the new album, mainly due to my location on this planet earth, but that's another story. So, yes, I don't have the opinion as to wether the album isn't as good as the rest of them, but still, get over the fact that Glen Danzig's an asshole and a half and doesn't give a flying fuck about the Misfits, and that Michale Graves doesn't sound exactly like him, WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU WAITING FOR? A FUCKING CLONE OF DANZIG?????????? You should look up to the Misfits, they've been through thick and thin and made it through. So FUCK YOU. and if anyone would like to complain about my entry, then refer all bulshit to bombshellhell@hotmail.com. A faithful fiend FOREVER, - Rina --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:42:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Heimlich Gustafo Subject: the troc the misfits shouold definitely play the troc and not the electric factory. the electric factory is in east bumble fuck (and not really a great neighborhood), and is setup stupidly. i didn't see danzig or gwar cause they played at the electric factory. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Sulzbach Subject: Re: the misfits kick ass When bands cover the Misfits "the think they can do a shitty job"??? So are you saying that bands that cover the Misfits are intentionally trying to sound like shit? I doubt that. I don't think any band tries to do a "shitty" job. And Karl Crisis has Cabal 315, I think Glenn would be in a little bit of trouble. That and I think Danzig could care less about what some relativley unknown band's Misfits cover sounds like. ------------------------------ Date: Mon May 12 15:32:58 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: SSD & Descendents talk about Misfits Yo... I was interviewing the Descendents (Karl Alverez in particular) and Al from SSD (what'd they used to call him? slammy? spanky?) happened to be there. Anyway the Misfits/Glenn came up... ---------- [talkin' bout having a band and restricting the drummer to a bare kit]... Al> Speaking of drummers, Where's Biscuits? Karl> Playing with Social Distortion. We're going to be playing with them on the Warped tour. I'm really psyched cause I wanted to see Biscuits... Should be totally fun to go see biscuits everynight. J> He totally goes off. Karl> He's one of my favorite drummers. Doesn't seem to matter what band... Al> And he's the gonzo of punk rock, let's face it. Karl> Yeah he gets around, he plays on a lot of records. He's great. Biscuits left the DOA camp specifically to do the Black Flag thing and then the Circle Jerks thing, and then ended up with ol' Glenn. J> What do you think of the new "Misfit" record? Karl> I haven't heard it... don't know anything about it. Al> Which Misfits? It's like the TSOL thing. J> Yeah, the rest of the band... Karl> It's Jerry and Doyle... J> And some new guys Karl> I haven't heard it yet. I was hoping they'd bring... Robo outta retirement. Robo's a great thing, he's so stern. Al (in Robo voice)> What is theese fruit? I doan know what it tis. Will you tell me what it tis? Karl> He has no idea. Al> No idea. Karl> He's great. Al> How come he doesn't know fruit? It's a fuckin' fruit. It's been growing for a million fuckin' year. Karl> He doesn't know, he's from Columbia and... Bill [Stevenson] joined Black Flag because they couldn't get Robo to Europe cause he Visa wouldn't permit. It's all functions of nationalities and shit... And that's basically where the interview ended. Ta ta for now. --------------==============================------------------ http://www.spy.net/~allroy/jam/ "THE English band... The Jam"- Karl allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:13:20 -0400 From: "Mikey Python" Subject: rolling stone Hey Fiends, Well, sorry I took so long about this, but I wanted to say it... Rolling Stone is stupid. Besides, didn't the original Misfits catch a bunch of crap from critics back in the day? The Misfits are before their time then and now. Critics are probably rant and rave about how "American Psycho" is such a briliant masterpiece in ten years like they do with "Walk Among Us" and "Collection I" Critics are dumb anyway. They give techno crap and Beck all this wonderfull praise, but when something that is worth listening to comes along, they shun it because it's not in the 'mainstream.' So, screw rolling stone and all their critics. I saw an "A.P." add in this months 'Alternative Press' (the one with L7 having their crotches licked by dogs on the cover) Just thought I'd tell ya. 'Scream Until You Die!' Mike PS-The "AP" stands for "American Psycho," not Alternative Press. just caught that myself. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Newsletters etc etc To those wondering about the Misfits newsletters....ever notice the big "Bulk Rate" thing on the corner of all Fiend Club stuff? That means that they pay very little to mail the shit (rightfully so, too. If you were mailing about thousands of shit for free, you'd do the same, so don't bitch), and therefore the post office takes their dear sweet time with the stuff. If I'm not mistaken...postal employees correct me if I'm wrong....I think bulk rate stuff has "guaranteed delivery within three months." Seriously. So the fact they were sitting in the post office may not have been an error, even though they claim it to be. AND, besides all this. These newsletters are FREE, you really shouldn't complain. If they were charging $20 a year that'd be one thing, but this is free and it's not like there's anything in it you don't know, assuming you read Mark's posts and check the page every so often. Whatever happened to Steve Zing's e-mail account? Or does he just not post anymore? Hellnight is the bonus track on the CD, another is on vinyl. No edition contains both. Gramps--come on! Not all aol people are bad. A while back someone asked about the OzzFest disc. This has been out for a few weeks and no, Danzig is not on it. Even though I heard ads stating the opposite. There will be a free OzzFest 97 2xCD set to those who go to the show. Perhaps on that? But I can't see why, considering they were on 96. To all Samhain reunion believers---come on! Do you honestly think Glenn will let Samhain get away from him after years of fighting for the Misfits? Samhain was his baby, face it, there's not a chance in hell he's going to let a reunion (without him, which is something he has kept open) happen. And, I reckon Mark kinda shot down this rumor last issue anyway. Chris ------------------------------ From: Bob Dansby Subject: HOW I DISCOVERED MISFITS Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:17:22 -0400 I want to address the issue that all these little turds who want to complain about how someone discovered the misfits. If you discovered them 10 years ago or three weeks ago. Does it matter? This may sound stupid, but i discovered them thru saved by the bell. Jesse's brother had a evil live poster,I liked the poster so much that i bought walk among us. This was about four or five years ago. And one last thing, GRAVES RULES, GLEN'S OUT,GET OVER IT!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: 12 May 97 17:53:22 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: some commentary Brett Fama brought up some great points last MB .. specifically > No offense Bobby, but prior to hooking up with Mark, I never knew that >you and the Undead were still around. Nor, I think, did most of the people >currently into the Misfits. If anything kept the Misfits' legacy alive, it >was Glenn's (re-)release of Misfits records, his continued production of >Misfits t-shirts, the success of Danzig, and the support of Metallica. I for one, who had heard the Misfits on the radio in the early 80s (i'll take one of those 10-15 idiot slots please courtesy of Pat Duncan on WFMU) but really started getting into them when LOB and Collection I came out in the mid 80s. Previous to that, the concept of getting any Misfits recordings was impossible unless you were a) a collector with the financial resources. b) lucky to find bootlegs or c) really lucky and find the original releases for affordable prices. I know alot of people, especially in college when the Metallica EP came out, come raving to me about those two Misfits songs. As "uncool" as it seems, Metallica was the best thing that probably happened to the 'fits, because it opened at whole audience up that would have never otherwise heard of them. Punks had known of them and their legacy would have died with punk without the massive Metallica exposure, and to limited extend, Danzig getting semi-succesfull as a solo-artist ... both really courtesy of the heavy metal crowd. then you say "Also, it's no one's business but yours, but I find it >hard to believe that the individual Misfits (or Caroline for that >matter) made that much money off the box-set. I especially find it >difficult to believe that the members got that much since only Glenn >appeared on every song on the set, and he gets double (40%) of what the >others do. (Although he, too, claims to have received nothing). I figured out that 50,000 box sets, times a wholesale price of $40 = approx $2,000,000 (pretty fancy math huh?). since they money the band got was a purchase of the rights to all the recordings, it would not have been tied into the success of the box set (though Caroline anticipated making a profit i'm sure). While $650,000 does seem like a lot of money, I find it "feasible" to a certain extent, and I'm sure capital gains tax will take a big chunk anyway .... then he continues "as to how many incidents in which >the average moron can uncover the number 138 in a given day. It was never >funny the first time, and it's just getting older and stupider. guilty as charged ..... From: leedguitar@juno.com -> >I just thought I'd comment quickly. There was a post on Bobby mumbling >the lyrics on Eve of Destruction. The Dickies do an awesome version of this tune .... check it out!!! punkture - > >.When ya'll talk about "wax",what do you mean?Is this wax?Or is it just cool >see-through vinyl? Wax is just another name for vinyl which is just another name for the analog discs that we used to get music on prior to CDs AZ ------------------------------ Subject: posting issues to teh bible page Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:05:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric J Peterson why are the issues for this week not avaiable on the page? Also i saw a review of american psycho in Terrorizer magazine, they gave it 4 1/2 out of 5! take that rolling stone, thanks, unshadow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:19:44 -0700 From: Inzo Subject: Mark Estes and Famous Monsters and Big House, plus info to Vander@nji.com What? Don't you know who I am? I am the fantastic Mike I. I have been Making Harlock shirts forever and the only reason I have not been making them since I got more paint is because I don't have any money to buy shirts. I am completely capable of making them. I am just currently low on money. Money wouldn't be much of a problem if HORRORKID would pay me back the money he owe's me! He still has not paid me the money back for the Star Wars Trilogy he supposedly sent me. Anyway....I don't want that guy (Mark Estes) taking business from me. So to all of you out there, there is a link to my Harlock shirt ad page in Misfits Central news section. I think I am going to be in the next Famous Monsters Of Filmland magazine, issue #218 ...atleast my name, Mike Inzerillo. I sent FM a postcard asking them to put some pictures of the Crimson Ghost in their Magazine. This would go in their "You Axed For IT" section where they print requests of pictures from Fiends. I emailed them an order and asked about my postcard and Ray Ferry replied and confirmed my order and said "we haven't got your postcard yet but we'll be happy to print a couple pictures of the Crimson Ghost in the next issue #218, see You AXed For IT" Get #218 when it comes out. It will have the CG and My Name :) Also, since I'm talking about FMOF. For those of you that have never seen an issue (they ARE hard to find) a lot of the Misfits originality can be credited to this magazine. Example: I have some old issues. In an old issue from about 1974, there is a section in the magazine where they list the fanclub addresses for actors. The section of the magazine is called "The Fiend Club" also, the word "Fiend" is all over the magazine. I thought the Misfits, instead of calling their following fans, called them Fiends cuz they were more obsessive. No, this was just a switch because "Fiend" works the same way and is Horror (you get what I'm saying I can't put it into words) I know a reliable source who says Eerie von used to call her friend Jeff and say stuff like "You don't know who you're dealing with, you better watch yourself" If you watch the Danzig 1 homevideo, Eerie does seem like a lowlife, so I beleive it. Eerie has been calling this Jeff guy because he wants Jeff to sing for him, Jeff is from Philly I think. I guess Eerie used to not like Jeff for reasons I forget. Anyway, sources tell me that Bighouse broke up because "They suck and can't get shows" That would Explain Eerie looking for a singer and moving. Uneasy Listening was pretty descent. He should dump the cowboy hat and go with that stuff.......a samhain reunion, this probably started because Eerie is looking for a new band. If Samhain got together, Glenn would sue sue sue. But Eerie's new band might do some Cover's but not be called Samhain. The info for you: In New York call 1-212-989-0869, They sell Evil Dead 2 posters for 35 bucks plus 5 dollars shipping. I do not know their name nor what else they sell. A friend gave me their number and I called, ordered the poster, and that's it. Go in Yahoo and search for REEL DEALS. They sell Evil Dead 1 posters for 15 bucks plus 5 dollars shipping. The above place might sell Evil Dead 1 posters....I didn't ask. I already have the Evil Dead poster on order from REEL DEALS. I'm looking for a Horror Business and NOTLD boot still; they'll pop up somewhere. ------------------------------ From: sistinas@webspan.net Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:31:44 -0400 Subject: send me please?! can someone send me a copy of the bible #332? i have mistakely deleted it :( and there was some information in there that i needed to show someone to make him shutup about knowing everything.. ------------------------------ From: Hrrmnn8or@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 00:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Don't buy this (no, I'm not talking about American Psycho) I hope no one would be stupid enough to think that this is a Misfits album (and than go buy it) - Some album by SARA HICKMAN entitled ``Misfits''. It's on Shanachie. She's Texan a singer/songwriter. just thought I'd let you know. NOW go out and buy American Psycho!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:32:23 +0000 From: Julian Baldry To any prospective UK American Psycho purchasers, the release date has been pushed back to 26th May. As this is a bank holiday, the record will actually be available from the 27th. The release was switched at the *very* last minute and so record shop computer records have not been updated to show this. Quite why they decided to release it AFTER the band's two UK live dates is beyond me... but rumours that they've decided to schedule it against Hanson's release of 'MMMBop' over here are so far unfounded :) >>On the back of American Psycho, it says under Doyle's name, "Wolf >>Von Frankenstein". Anybody know why? If you'd like a picture of it, >>let me **It was a just a random spur-of-the-moment joke. Maybe this is why the album was delayed, hopefully to remove this 'joke'. Julian ------------------------------ From: DJohn13147@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: AP on Vinyl A couple of things about Ap on vinyl: 1) The bonus track on my copy is Dead Kings Rise, and although there are better songs on the album, this song is by no means bad. 2) Someone posted about a red vinyl pressing. The vinyl I got is limited edition black heavy vinyl (real thick) not red, but had a sticker on the cover stating the following: Bonus Track "dead kings rise" available only on Limited edition Heavy Vinyl. this leads me to three questions. 1)Is there a red vinyl pressing, and if so, is anyone selling? 2)does the red vinyl pressing have dead kings rise as the bonus, or another bonus track? 3)Does anyone know the breakdown as to how many of each type of vinyl was pressed? Thanks for your time Dijon! (DJOHN13147@aol.com) ------------------------------ From: Undead138@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: AMERICAN PSYCHO Yeah, yeah i know every post today will be about the new album, but i just want to say that it kicks ass. I love almost every song. And IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE GLAM METAL! It sounds more like metal bands like Testament, Iron maiden, Metallica, and stuff like that. How can anyone say it sounds like Moltley Cruee? My favorite songs are "Speak of the Devil", "american Psycho", "day of the Dead", and "The crimson Ghost" (yEs, I do like this song).... that is all for now MASTER UNDEAD P.S.- Anyone with American Psycho reviews (from magazines) type 'em up and E-Mail them to me (i wanna make a little scrapbook or something...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:37:56 -0700 From: "Adam R." Subject: American Psycho I would like to congratulate Jerry, Michale, Doyle, and Chud on a job well done. This has been one of the best CD's I have bought in a long time. Hasta... Adam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:59:10 -0400 From: Xdisco infernoX Subject: philly fiends On Saturday night Drexel University's BURNT TOAST UNDERGROUND ARTS AND MUSIC GUILD will be presenting a showcase of independent local bands. You can expect to hear a few Misfits songs because I'm under the impression that at least two of the bands playing perform some... though neither are what I would consider cover bands. If you like punk, hardcore, or even emo and are going to be in Philly Saturday night check it out. Step Ahead (from Philly) vs. Amertume (from NJ) vs. Somerset (from Parts Unknown) possibly one more band to be announced... SATURDAY MAY 17... THE NEWMAN CENTER at 33rd and Chestnut streets... doors open at 7... first band goes on between 7:30 p.m. and 8... $5... support independent rock in philadelphia... for info write to me or call Regan at (215) 571-4019... Check it out it'll be a good time... great bands... bring a friend. Kevin xxx p.s. Hey Leah, I'm rubber and you're glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. =) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:46:16 -0700 From: Fay Beckman Subject: American Psycho having never heard the 'new' Misfits before, my first impression is that i hope i'm not alone in loving this album. my only complaint is the cheesy cover, but other than that it's absolutely evil. all said and done, it was a superior way to spend my last $17 in the world. send me money and your life will be fulfilled, i promise. fay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:31:29 -0700 From: "ADAM R." Subject: Iggy According to Addicted to Noise, Joey Ramone and the Misfits are going to cover "1969" on the Iggy Pop tribute album.... Anyone else hear of this??? Adam R. ------------------------------ From: GhoulFiend@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:52:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Just A Quickie Fiends, I have had the promo for AP for awhile now but today I bought the vinyl. I had never heard "Dead Kings Rise" and it blew me away...I love this album! I particularly enjoyed the huge photo of Doyle that covers one side of the inner sleeve. ::sigh::...to be the Bride of Frankenstein..~v~ Now that I have the lyrics (never been very good at deciphering them) I can let it consume my soul completely until I get to see them live again. Off to my crypt I go..... Bloody Kisses, Persephone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:01:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jackal Subject: American Psycho and Hearses Man someone is making a killing off American Psycho. I don't know if it's GEFFEN or the Disc Jockey Superstore I bought it at. A total of $17.89 if pretty crazy. I mean I'm gonna buy it reguardless, but one of two of them is making some serious bucks. This is also the same store I paid $74 for the box set, but it's the only store here that carrys Misfits stuff. All in all I really like American Psycho. I'm not going to go indepth about all the songs, but I really like the best: Walk Among Us, Blacklight, American Psycho, and The Haunting. The Haunting has been my favorite all along. The two I dont really care for are Speak Of The Devil and Hate The Living, Love The Dead. I'm sure I'll eventually like them. By the way, what about Dead Kings Rise? Not on mine, Hellnight is the hidden track. I noticed Mars Attacks is a lot slower than the version I recorded in Louisville last June. If anyone is interested in the Town Whore Records compilation email me and I'll give you the details. I was also wondering is any other Fiends on here own a Hearse? I bought a 1976 mint condition maroon color Cadillac Hearse a few weeks ago and I love it. I'm going out this week to buy a coffin to put in the back of it. I plan on building the coffin into some seats so I can haul people. Email me if you own one. Later, Jackal ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:45:40, -0500 Subject: American Psycho Well, I guess it's my turn. I'll spare everyone the generic track-by- track analysis with such standard descriptions as kick-ass, awesome, and the old stand-by, punker-than-fuck. First of all, let's get the OPINION part out of the way. I THINK this album is solid and will definitely be in my disc changer for a long time to come. I love it. Special props to Dig Up Her Bones and American Psycho. The only track hard to get into is Mars Attacks. However, the facts are simply that this IS a different band, and these are different times. If G--nn D--zig was back in the band, everyone would complain that it sounds too much like D--zig. Stop the fuckin' comparisons. Just take the music for what it is. I for one, see this band, now, in an entirely different light, separate from the past. American Psycho definitely proves that the line-up of Graves, Only, Doyle, and C.H.U.D is an effective one, capable of making great music. I am already anticipating the next album. Basically, this album is what it is; stop comparing, let the past alone, forget about names and labels and just ENJOY THE MUSIC. ...Marino ------------------------------ From: EEdiot103@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Whatever happened to "Dead Kings Rise"? and other stuff Fiends, I know--I'm probably the millionth person on this issue to review American Psycho, but as a CD reviewer, I felt I should put in my two cents. I've already listened to the CD twice, and it REALLY KICKS ASS! But I won't argue with ANYONE about the fact that they have changed because the changes are obvious. Hell, what do you expect if it's their first album since 1983? If you think about it, their sound changed a lot from 1977-83. The changes between Cough/Cool and Static Age are tremendous. Same with Horror Business (through Walk Among Us) and Earth AD. They changed and evolved throughout their early career, and 14 years later, they evolved even more (without Danzig, and his stuff has evolved too--not to say I'm crazy about Blackacidevil). Musically, they've polished up a lot! Doyle's guitar playing is a lot cleaner and heavier, the drums are better, the bass is better, and Michale's vocals have great variation with the music. Sure, they're not quite Danzig (some of them sound like his vocals), but his vocals work perfectly with the music. And I also see the slight resemblence to Joey Ramone. There are a lot more metal elements in the music, but the catchiness, the horror, the attitude, and the "Go-go-whoa-oh's" are still there--they still seem to be the band I know and love! "American Psycho" has already become one of my favorite songs of all time, if not my fave! I know there are other fiends who absolutely despise the new Misfits, no matter what I or anyone else say. That's fine--everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just thought it was great! Check out my review of American Psycho in the next issue of Vibrations of Doom (see what score I give it out of 100). I'll let you guys know when the next issue is coming out on the homepage. One note I want to add--when I met Jerry Only and the rest of the band in Atlanta last June, they were really cool. Chud took me backstage to meet Michale, and Jerry told the bouncers to let me in the bar area so I could hang with him. We talked for a while about what their plans were, what he thought of the music industry--everything. I must say--the Misfits love their fans! I really believe that partly had to do with them getting back together because they've gained such a large fan base over the years that would love to see them play new stuff. Jerry told me, "We want to play new stuff." Sure, he loves money, just like we all do. But from talking to him, he gave me the impression that he's not as much into it for the money as he is to play new stuff. I've probably written a book by now, but I have one more question. What ever happened to "Dead Kings Rise"? I know it was a proposed track--in fact, it was the first proposed title of the new CD. I'm just curious to see what happened to it. I think I have an idea what may have happened to it, but I'm not going to say. Gotta go for now--I have to wake up at 4:30 to leave for Georgia Tech for a day. EE Fiend ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam P Segal Subject: New CD Are there any colored vinyl copies of American Psycho? I just got the CD and was curious. Anyhow, Graves sounds good when he sings in his higher range. These songs are typically shorter and more melodic. When he sings in his lower range it sounds a bit too operatic for my taste (like Iron Maiden, whom I like in general). There's a vocal coach credited on the CD, which may explain the effort at "real" singing. Nothing like singing lessons to ruin a singer! I just skip those low-voice songs and pretty much like the rest of the CD. Anyone else feel this way about high range/low range? -adam ------------------------------ From: GhoulFiend@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 02:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Movies For Fiends Fiends, Let the D's begin! 25) Dance Of Death(1969) Bela Lugosi's last film was Plan 9, Boris Karloff did this right before he died. A Mexican made pre-decessor and influence to the Puppetmaster series. 26) Dante's inferno (1924) Go to Hell the silent way in this old tour through the Lake Of Fire. BTW, they aren't really naked. 27) Daughters Of Darkness (1971) There just aren't enough movies out there based on Elizabeth Bathory. 28) The Death Curse of Tartu (1966) Indian medicine man zombie terrorizes students. I don't think this tried to be a comedy 29) Deep Red (1975) Released as Profondo Rosso (a much bloodier version) in Italy, Dario Argento leads on a gore filled classic. Italians do blood right. DON'T MISS THIS ONE 30) Deliverance (1972) Backwoods sodomy, inbred jed, and Dueling Banjos should terrify anyone. 31) Deranged (1974) Tom Savini does the FX in this twisted tale. Check out the grave-robbing cannibal. 32) Devil's Rain (1975) See William Shatner battle Ernest Borgnine. Good against evil? Anton La Vey was the technical advisor to this piece of history. 33) The Devils (1971) I saw this movie years ago and finally remembered what it was called and saw it again. This is exceptional in every way. Vanessa Redgrave plays a self-flagellating nun with spinal meningitis who seeks revenge on Oliver Reed, a priest whom loves another, by having him accused of commerce with the devil. 34) The Doll Squad (1973) The producers of "Charlies Angels" ripped the idea off of this movie. Still, if Tura Satana is in it, I love it. 35) Dracula (1931) The crown of gothic horror and Bela at his peak. 36) Dracula vs. Frankenstein (1971) This is so comical you have to see it. Some things mystify even me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------- I'll finish the D's next time. I need to go get ready for my GWAR interview tomorrow, plus I don't want to leave anything out. I'm limiting myself to 12 movies per posting. Bye now. Yours Fiendishly, Persephone ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 97 21:05:51 +1200 From: Jason Subject: Re: Bible #331 [LATE] Well, let me retort, BF (famabm@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA): >>> From: Bobby Steele >>> Tell them you want the original tapes with Bobby Steele on guitar - not >>> the FAKE re-recorded version. No matter how bad it might be - technology >>> exists that can fix almost anything without re-dubbing tracks. > > Or why not at least re-dub them with YOU on guitar? Why would he go to the trouble of over-dubbing his own guitar? >>> fiends. Jerry has just stepped in to reap the financial rewards for > > Well, you obviously believe that Jerry's refounding of the band is more > than coincidental with the recent retro-punk explosion, and the financial > gains he stands to make are obvious. However, many people seem to > overlook the fact that Jerry couldn't reform the band until he had the > legal rights to the name -- in March of 1994. (? Mark, correct date?) Just because he couldn't reform the band doesn't mean he couldn't form a band. Glenn and Bobby seem to have done all right for themselves after the misfits. Could it be that the only way Jerry could be in a band that has fans is to reform the Misfits. If he really cared about his fans he would've named his band something else and played, not wait years and years until he got the right to reform the Misfits. btw. I have nothing against the new misfits, I'm waiting till I hear the new stuff before I know if I like them or not. Jason. -- ...although I believe in self regulation and Usenet hierarchy, I'm not going to be 24 hour babysitter for irresponsible parents. I'm not going to "rate" my posts G, PG, R or X to make it easy on lazy ass parents. --Cernovog ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:30:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Franz Ardito Subject: I'll die happy now.. Finally i saw the misfits live. The concert in Bologna was great, the guys played very well, the crowd went just WILD (michale looked kinda worried at certain point of the show), jerry broke my friend's nose, i bought a long sleeve limited misfits shirt (the one with the glow-in-the-dark bones all over), and i even had my collection 1 cd sleeve signed by jerry; could i ask more? Actually, yes: why they did not play night of the living dead? speaking of the gig i was VERY impressed by Michale: he kept the stage in a brilliant way even though the situation wasn't easy to handle, specially in the beginning of the show. They even said they'll come back, hope it's true.. here all the music magazines "had to admit" that the new album is very good, for now i only saw the cover. bye franz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:52:48 +0000 From: William Jefferson Clinton Subject: Howdy from the prez Hello Fiends! I just wanted all you fiends to know that Hillary & I are happier than = pigs in slop that thars a new Misfits CD out. We been waiten=B9 since = 1983 fer some new songs. When the guys played that show at that there = Capitol Ballroom last summer, I really dug that song 'Blacklight'. I = knew this new record was gonna be good. I really enjoy that there new = song =8CDay of the Dead=B9. That=B9s one of my favorite flicks too. Boris = Yeltsen did seem to like it much though. (the movie that is) I do wish = the lyrics in that one were a little closer to the movie. And what=B9s = the story with the lyrics to =8CShining=B9? Sound more like =8CPoltergiest=B9= = than =8CThe Shining=B9. But maybe that just the booze talkin=B9. I tell you= = what, my leg is still killing me from that little spill I took back = there at Greg Norman=B9s place. = I tell you what, there's nuthin=B9 like ridin=B9 on Air Force One, while = hummin=B9 along to =8CSome Kinda Hate=B9. All the little shitheels I got = running around for me keep sayin=B9, =B3Bill, you can=B9t let it get out = that you listen to =8Cthat=B9 kinda music. What would the voters think.=B2 = I = just have to laugh. The voters are retards! I mean, the dumb-fucks = elected me didn=B9t they? Twice, for that matter! Besides, there=B9s = nothing wrong with the the Misfits or their lyrics. I mean, at least = there not proposin=B9 risky tax schemes that=B9ll blow a hole in the = deficit. And for the life of me, I don=B9t know any song by them that = proposes cutting Medicare, Medicaid, Education, or the Environment. By = the way, I really do appreciate all the fine 'mericans who voted for = me. Seein' as how the Misfits ain't never played Arkansas, the only = I'm getta chance to see 'em is if I'm here in DC. Anyway, I gotta mosey. Chelsea sez she needs the computer to do = research in some =8Cchat room=B9, whatever that is. And I have to go = =8Cgreet=B9 my new secretary. So long, Your President, William Jefferson Clinton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:14:56 -0400 (EDT) From: ZOMBIES ate my brains!!!! Subject: yawn >Whatever. ok, alicia... >Anyone who thinks the Electric Factory is the best venue in >Philly just hasn't been to enough shows. I never said that the electric factory was the best venue in philly, is that what you are trying to say? All I said was that they should play philly which you didn't think was a good idea. I agree with you that the troc is a much better place. >just hasn't been to enough shows. I've probably been to see the misfits alone more than you've been to shows at all, little man. Don't try to get all high and mighty on me because you've seen CIV at the electric factory. And futhermore, if you are going to let a little thing like the fact that they are playing at the electric factory stop you from going to the show then you must not like them that much in the first place. At least other people have a good excuse like the fact that they wouldn't be caught dead seeing the 'new' misfits. But because of the place? That's ridiculous. Leah ------------------------------ From: "Shannon Peyton" Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:24:32 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #333 Well god dam. My local Music Proprietor. Had 5 copies of Amercan Psyco in the Store yesterday. S ome and all my plas bought them. Because we held them at gun point and said " fuckin...........gimme" And that is exactly wha tthey did. Personally it is fucking so good!1 IT is heavy as fuck. And MArs Attacks is wicked wit hthta maideny type of picking thing. ANd all the Anthraxy palm muting. we put it on at our local skate park and i don't think anybody stopped until like the cd's third time through!!! Hellnight is on as a bonus track too at the very end. That is cool!! I loved so much!!!! IT is still the misfits guys. They have just progreessed that is all. You expect a band to stay the same for 20 or so years. Fuck. IT is just diversity. Wich thye displayed alot of in the old days anyways. American Psyco get 138 stars from us god dam!! I have a question for somebody who is the person dedicated his performance to in the credits?? ------------------------------ From: Rebelangl4@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: XstifsimX & New Samhain XstifsimX; I personally have a few connections and some insight about this proposed new Samhain. Basically according to my sources, Steve Zing and this guy --i don't know his screen name-- are trying to get some new version of Samhain started. I heared that it may be a counter attack by Glenn against the Misfits, considering there was a rough court battle and the profits from the whole thing got swiped out from under his feet. Plus the Misfits are not a serious band, Samhain was totally different as far as lyrical statements and meaning behind the songs,much more serious and to the point; which is one of the reasons Glenn left the 'fits in the first place. And as far as why a Samhain with no Glenn because the Fits you could see with out him but Samhain you couldnt, well, I personally am not complaining about the idea one bit, I think it would be a nice turn of fate, and besides, if that person was correct about Glenn having a producing role in this new band, it would be more Samhain like, unlike the way the Misfits have turned out sounding totally different, though I happen to know Glenn is a busy person and he has a tendancy to procrastinate sometimes, not to mention want things done his own way. You have to remember that Jerry and Doyle don't like Samhain too much, it was the reason Glenn left the Misfits. REBELANGL4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:16:09 -0500 From: "Adrock@pipeline.com" Subject: American Fuckn Psycho The lp is fuckn GREAT. American Psycho Speak of the Devil The Hunger Are just a few that belong on a greatest hits lp. The only song I didnt really like was Mars Attack. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:54:24 +0000 From: scooter Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #333 >From: Opus >Subject: stoned misfits >After listening to it, I don't think I could have said it better myself: FUCK OFF!!!!! The Misfits Fiend Club - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!! >Jerry should have left it alone YOU should leave the band alone and subscribe to "Some other band's Bible!!!!" ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:39:12 -0700 Subject: Bible Post Whats up Fiendz, I bought American Psycho. Sounds like Kiss and slayer collaborating with Diesel boy. Some of the music is OK, but the vocals are for the most part, bitchy. They really should have just thought of a new name. They've tarnished the history of an otherwise divine band. Oh yeah, Trash American Style has some unopened copies of the Undead "Invisible Man" 7", the 1st pressing. They're $4, malcom said he found them in some warehouse. Thats it. Tom Undermine GogmaGod Records Rd 1 Box 172 Rt.22 Wassaic, NY 12592 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:57:08 PST Subject: SHITT From: misfit6x3@juno.com (Just some Fiend) Holy Fuck!! I usually don't post but the new album is the shit!!! I thought it was gonna be some peice of shit wanna-be fits album. I saw them twice on the tour but I still didn't think the album would be worth a fuck even though the shows were one of the high points in my life. Sorry to take up space on the bible but I love the new album. I just hope that geffen doesn't make them make some stupid video that plays on MTV and being a "fiend" becomes a fashion statement. Anyway, stay true JuStIn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:40:06 -0400 From: DOYLE Subject: Misfits Bible NAME: DOYLE EMAIL: duffmckagan@geocities.com I'm going to put togther a "MEGA-BOOTLEG" Compalition Album for the Misfits and if anyone has any bootlegs of concerts or demos etc. send them to: DOYLE PO BOX 303 WRENTHAM, MA 02093 Once I get enough songs to fill a 90 minute tape I'll sell them for $5.00 a tape and then $3.00 each additional tape. If I get alot of material I'm going to put together a double album. (The double album will be $7.00 then $4.00 each additional tape.) I've been designing a tape case to it'll look better than just copied tape. ------------------------------ From: "PSYCO78" Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:59:00 GMT-4 Subject: American Pyscho The new album is worth buying just for "Resurrection". It is one of the catchiest coolest tunes I have ever heard. The rest of the album is really good too. Im not going to bother with a song by song review but I will recomend this to all my friends. Later Roger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:50:14 -0400 From: DOYLE Subject: Misfits Bible If anyone is intrested I have put together a packet about GLENN DANZIG and if anyone would like one notify me at duffmckagan@geocities.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:51:14 -0700 From: adam bodnar Subject: MATT MALLEO, WHERE ARE YOU? Sorry for taking up the bible space for this. Matthew Malleo if you read this bulletin, please contact me at . I am just wondering if my money order reached you yet, and if you mailed out my Danzig CD's from your last auction. Thanks, Adam Bodnar P.S. Did anybody else on the Bible bid on items from Matt Malleo's sale of his entire Misfits collection? If so, did you receive your items yet? If you have had contact with Matt please email me an address (or the like) in which I might be able to get a hold of him. Thank you. ------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 01:20:54 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Just way to much bullshit... Hello fiends... First things to hit, Boy Brett you sure had a lot to say last bible. you seemed very eager to judge Misfits and Fiends alike. Well i'm not going to go on about how i came to be interested in the Misfits or any of that. But as far as what i post being relevant or not, who are you to be the judge of that? Last i looked the Misfits music does link to horror and the horror movie genre. Plus if you have not noticed this paticular topic has be part of the bible for quite some time. Plus assuming i got the lyrics out of the boxset is pretty sad on your behalf. The boxset is just a tiny molecule to the collection i have. Plus what point were you trying to make when you selected part of my post out of all and then to go on about how so much of the bible is totally useless. I admit that there are flames that are so uncalled for and some fiends would rip on others for no apperent reason, but if you out right say something you know that person is not going to be happy with once they read it you should expect to be flamed. So am i going to flame you, no. do i have an opinion of you, yes. you come off sounding like some POMPOUS ASS! so what if the bible is not 100% Misfits Samhain Danzig etc. if it was it would be dead, and its not realistic. we have close to 1200 fiends that read this thing, only 10% at the most participate and post. now what the fuck do you thing you would get from a group of fiends ranging in age from 13 - 40, and are students to professional working class whatevers. half these fiends are just learning info on their fave bands for the first time, and some are seasoned fiends who collect and have spent many a night at any number of shows hanging out with any member of any of these bands. so what do you do, not allow the new fiends to post since its not what "you" want to read. hey it may be pointless to you but obviously it was not pointless to them to sit and write it. SPELLING, such a horrible thing. damned those fiends to hell for not spelling correctly and making all those typos. Though i guess you never knew that most of us are human and are not perfect. There are some very well known fiends that have the greatest stories to tell, but their spelling and typing skills really suck. so what, you have to be pretty dence if you can't figure out what they are trying to say. So what am i trying to point out here, who the hell are you to sit in judgement of us. its not realistic to ever even thing that the bible will be the perfect little new letter you imagine it to be. Oh by the way as far as Green Hell goes, until you have seen the movie i am talking about and have listened to the song enough, then you can shoot your mouth off. The movie is not what Glenn is talking about, at least the second version of the movie. Simple version of what the movie is about. 1) wasps are put into a test rocket and are trying to be shot into space. 2) that rocket malfunctions and lands in Africa. 3) the radio activity does strange things to the wasps. 4) the wasps turn into giant wasps. 5) the wasps now go around scaring villagers and eating them. 6) the scientests who sent the rocket up in the first place go to Africa. 7) They find out what is happening. 8) End result they kill the giant wasps. On to, with the quest for CG in Famous Monsters of Filmland. thus far i have looked in issues #30 up to 54 plus all the year books from the 60s. the only one i saw was in issue #54 on page #45. Though the other magazine was Screen Thriller Magazine issue #4 and the same photo was part of the cover. As i mentioned before the other mag. with CG is Monsterama(which was Forrest's spin off when FM was not in printing) issue #1 page 44. Different picture than the one that is in issue 54. on fridays bible if i find anymore i'll list it then. Misfits 101... Values... Well your now at the point where you guys got to hear from me and even Gramps about values of records. Now where do you find this info on your own without the rantings of me or Gramps. First ask a lot of questions, if someone wanted to trade with me when i first started out, i would ask other collectors i knew, record store guys who really knew their stuff, Chuck Cleaver was always out right honest with me. He would give me the values of records that were being asked for in trade. Usually at that point i would be very pissed that someone once again was trying to screw with me. Perfect example, Kris McLauchlan and the trade for a Horror Business. He wanted only 8 different records, and they were all records that would equal a Cough/Cool in a straight trade. or 3 - 5 copies of Horror Business depending on the record i could get. Next, everytime i see an ad for punk and hardcore records for sale, i cut it out and save it. usually ones from dealer with good reps, or known record stores. i use those as reference. Also I was given a list that was printed in a collectors magazine quite a while ago, its the top 100 US punk and hardcore records of all times. it has accurate info as far as #s of pressings, full titles of songs, and other info. the only thing is some collectors do not agree on some of the placement and the $ values are in english pounds. though that is not hard anymore since there is a currency translator on the internet now. so with all this info you have at this point what do you do. sit down and try to match some values to get an idea. Look at the most extreme prices for Misfits items and the cheapest for them. Best bet is ask around the fiends with all the major pieces. Cause what i have listed paying for most of my stuff is not realistic. Most fiends who have a white vinyl Three Hits is not going to tell you they paid $30 and three 12" records from the SST label. EVB told me i was just lucky, Glenn gave me this look of utter shock and almost fell of the counter top we were sitting on. its not the typical pricing on the white Three hits, i was told $175 - 200, though i'm sure that there are some fiends that did not pay in that range either. I paid $200 on my Cough/Cool, which is a decent price, EVB paid $175, Curtis .from Taang offered me one for $175 but it was too late. I know fiends that paid double or triple what i paid. It all depends who you talk to. SO once you have a price range for the Misfits stuff and you learn about the other records its time to actually do a trade. and we will hit on that on Friday. Also Fridays bible list of Record Conventions as usual. Plus please remember they are not just for Misfits records and they are not US tour dates either. Later to all the fiendies!?! 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Misfits Bible, Number 335 Friday, May 16th 1997 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible #334 Here we go... Re: Misfits Bible #334 SST American Psycho First posting & comments Re: Misfits Bible #334 PHILLY FIENDS Heaping Pile of Faeces ANOTHER AMERICAN PSYCHO OPINION!!! Ain't nothing changed but the singer... doGgone... bobby's crying again American Psycho "Just a suggestion" SORRY BOUT THAT Sorry About the New Album American Psycho? SHIT SANDWICH! Eerie Von... lowlife? I don't think so. Kerrang! Magazine review of American Psycho american psycho Motley Crue's pussy drummer My Opinion Hidden track on A.P. Lots O stuff US tour date err...? newsletter PSYCHO WAVS American Psycho not just evil...eville I need a drummer dead kings rise American Psycho For sale or trade... American Psycho What's in a name? Movies For Fiends Don't badmouth American Psycho! You're never gonna get me, I'm the Crimson Ghost Re: Misfits Bible #334 One more review of AP... American Psycho (This is it Mark) The only post not talking about American Psycho ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:37:45 -0400 From: MK Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #334 > Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:05:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: Eric J Peterson > > why are the issues for this week not avaiable on the page? They should be now. > From: DJohn13147@aol.com > Subject: AP on Vinyl > > 1)Is there a red vinyl pressing, and if so, is anyone selling? > 2)does the red vinyl pressing have dead kings rise as the bonus, or another > bonus track? > 3)Does anyone know the breakdown as to how many of each type of vinyl was > pressed? Heavy Black vinyl, no red it turns out. > From: "ADAM R." > Subject: Iggy > > According to Addicted to Noise, Joey Ramone and the Misfits are going to > cover "1969" on the Iggy Pop tribute album.... Anyone else hear of > this??? Yes, the band recorded this song with Joey on vocals, and a second song called "I Got A Right" for the Iggy Pop tribute album. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:34:43 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Here we go... Mike Inzo: ~~~~~~~~~~ Eerie Von is no "lowlife". And you're a chump for believing what you see on a video someone sold you as entertainment. I first met Eerie Von right after Danzig II came out, and I asked him about that very thing on the first home video. Literally, I asked him, "Hey, so Eerie... surprised to see you out of the house! Is it true all you do is sit around a drink all day?" He chuckled a little bit, and explained that he was pretty much just fooling around. (I mean -- what possibly would YOU have to say if some dipshit was asking you dumb questions in an "interview" taped for video?) Eerie was very talkative, asked about all this Misfits stuff I had brought for Glenn to sign (he's apparently a BIG fiend himself), and all around was THE class act of the entire group. While Glenn was aloof, John awkward, and Chuck didn't seem to be in his "fan element", Eerie was friendly, candid, and plainly having a great time meeting people and talking about music. You're an asshole if you're going to put someone down based on hearsay and blatant marketing ploys. BTW, a "reliable source" (my Aunt Petunia) tells me London May used to call her for phone sex back in '85. And he DOES look like a lowlife on the back of Samhain III... hmmm... Fay Beckman: ~~~~~~~~~~~~ You got it all wrong... the "cheesy" cover (painted by Basil Gogos, and intended to look like a copy of "Famous Monsters of Filmland" magazine, from whence the Misfits got that logo) is probably the best thing about "American Psycho", cuz... AMERICAN PSYCHO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...well... okay, I'll say this. It doesn't SUCK. Not exactly. I'm sure it has its market, even outside people who are curious to hear what the "new" Misfits sound like. I will say another thing, though: not one thing about it even REMINDS me of the Misfits. Even the overdone "woah-oh-oh"s (I know they're spelled that way, they're on the lyric sheet) don't sound like the Misfits. The guitar sound is Metallica... I won't say it's "metal" because any metal fan on here ought to be able to admit that American metal is stale, not representative of what's really going on in the genre, and pretty much sucks all around. When I saw the NewFits live last year it struck me that their new guitar sound does NOTHING good for the Misfits' songs, and I feel that way even more now since none of the new songs even harks back to the old. Also, when you take the CD out of the jewel case, you see behind it a picture of Doyle playing his guitar with a bunch of hands reaching up and giving him "Devil sign". Doyle gets top billing on the back as well, which seems to indicate they're trying to position him as some kind of "guitar god" for the metal kids, which he clearly ain't. Michale's voice isn't bad... but he's plainly pretty inexperienced, and it doesn't seem like they really got his best performance out of him. On the whole, it seems like the production on this album was rushed -- or at least, not done with the loving care that any number of Fiends would have given it -- especially with regard to Michale's vocals. Still, is it telling that everyone on the MB seems so thrilled with the song "Hell Night" -- the one song on the album where THE PRODUCER GETS A SONGWRITING CREDIT? Michale IS something different... neither a Glenn rip-off or a complete change of direction in vocals. Lyrics are a problem, though. The lyrics on this record are complete corn. There is no swearing. There ARE plenty of silly Christian references, especially in the song "Speak of the Devil"... something about "Believers stand strong/ Be wary" etc. The hooks don't hook you. You can figure out the chorus of a song by its title. When you read the comic books Glenn Danzig writes for Verotik you might think his brain is made out of banana pudding, but his lyrics for the Misfits were 10 times more clever than these new ones. And in general, the song structure is all fucked up. Someone obviously told Jerry: "No solos. Short songs." So what they end up playing are these Reader's Digest condensed versions of Rockmetal songs, but without a proper song structure, no bridge, etc. To tell the truth, by track 16 I'm bored with the whole thing. If they're going to play with this bad style, they should have at least written a couple whole songs. "Crimson Ghost" is just awful. "Mars Attacks" does it one worse, though. If I had to pick a couple songs that I'd listen to off the thing (and humming it on the way to the bus stop doesn't count, cuz I get that way with Vanilla Ice sometimes)... I kinda like "American Psycho", and "Dig Up Her Bones" is probably the best cut off the album. (Oh yeah... my favorite song off BLACKACIDEVIL is "See All You Were".) BEST CASE SCENARIO AS I SEE IT: This album finds a market and gets some success. MTV plays a Misfits video, then two. The people who are getting tired with the flood of pop-punk crap in stores start crossing over to the Misfits' type of sound, and get led into metal. Metal experiences a revival. And finally, the video for "Reverence" by EMPEROR gets play on MTV!!!!! Thanks again, Jerry! :-) I still support the Misfits and with Jerry & Co. the best of luck on their new endeavor, but I like the old albums thenkyewverymuch. All in all, listening to this album gives me the same sort of feeling I get listening to the last 4 or so RUSH albums... and fans of "2112" and "Hemispheres" ouught to know what I'm talking about. NEIL ------------------------------ From: younggun@webtv.net (Philip Wascavage) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:58:40 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #334 At the end of the CD there is a couple of minutes of nothing then a song comes in?? Bonus Track!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:08:43 -0400 From: Derek Smith Subject: SST I'm just wondering, does anyone know who runs SST anymore? Derek http://village.globaldrum.com/Wasteland/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:28:43 -0700 From: Inzo Subject: American Psycho Weird. Out of all the songs people listed as their favorites, I didn't see anyone mention Hellnight. Hellnight is by far my favorite and this is the song that stands up the Walk Among us stuff. If they can take more of a Hellnight direction, things will be great. What I didn't like is so much talk about God in the lyrics. I wouldn't have a problem with this if the lyric were somewhere else. Ressurrection is a good song.....but it's about Jesus Christ....not what the Misfits are about. Kryst the conqeror was anti misfits and anti glenn, that stuff belongs there. I think, Speak of the devil is also maybe religious. I'm like soooooo sure, they're gonna play ressurrection then play an old Glenn anti-god one. I looked at Misfits Central for song writing credits, they used to be there; so I can see who's responsible for those lyrics. If Jerry wrote ressurrection and Michale wrote......Hellnight then Jerry should quit writing lyrics. I think Chud wrote Hate the living love the dead, good lyrics meaning that they're like the old songs. What is Hellnight about? ------------------------------ From: Rich Hartwig Subject: First posting & comments Date: Wed, 14 May 97 15:02:19 CDT Hello Fiends! For my first posting I wanted to get a few things out of the way: If you are in the DuPage County area of Illinois, or happen to be cruising that area, tune in to 88.7 WRSE-FM to catch some of the greatest metal and Misfits in the area! We are often copied by commercial stations, but they just can't hold a candle to us. Check me out, I am `The Thing That Should Not Be' ...and check out Zork (fellow fiend and bible recipient). Zork premiered American Psycho in it's entirety last week...and we definitely had listeners rolling tape! I feel that Metallica DID in fact contribute to an influx of fiends. I for one became interested through Last Caress/Green Hell. It was Zork who nailed it the rest of the way home. Thanks Zork! I wanted to thank Tammy (tes777@bridge.net) for her comments in #333. I agree with the non-flaming, open-minded ideas/opinions you expressed. It also helped me to create this first posting. Again, thanks. I like the new album for what it is, a new album, a new era. Period. The Thing That Should Not Be (richh@wrse.org) ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #334 Well, i got the album on Tuesday and i'd give it a 7 outta 10. It's alot different, and some songs are great. Is it as good as old misfits? not in a million years, but it's good for what it is, and god, i love those whoahs. Best songs are American Psycho, Dig Up Her Bones, Resurrection, The Haunting, Don't Open "til Doomsday, & Hell Night. Also, is it just me or was Blacklight alot cooler soundint last summer? Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:06:49 -0400 From: Xdisco infernoX Subject: PHILLY FIENDS Saturday, May 17 at 7 pm THE BURNT TOAST UNDERGROUND ARTS AND MUSIC GUILD PRESENTS: A FOUR WAY DANCE! AMERTUME vs. STEP AHEAD vs. SOMERSET vs. WHITE TRASH INC. A SHOW DEDICATED TO PROMOTING INDEPENDENT LOCAL BANDS. $5 at the NEWMAN CENTER at Drexel University (33rd and Chestnut streets) Philadelphia, PA USA FOR INFO RESPOND TO THIS OR CALL REGAN AT (215) 571-4019... WHERE'S SHAFT? DO IT YOURSELF. Expect to hear a few Misfits covers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:36:30 -0400 From: "J." Subject: Heaping Pile of Faeces American Psycho is a pile of shit. I want to slit my throat. It is good that the Mishits are environmentally friendly though. They practice the three R's. Reduce--The number of good songs (none) and good titles (none as well) Reuse--Riffs, vocal patterns, as well as lyrics from old Misfits songs. Not a lot of this though because they could have maybe had a decent showing if they had done it. I like American Psycho somewhat because it is a rip-off. The title sucks. Recycle--Old songs. Dr. Phibes is ttttttttttteeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrriiiiibbbbbbbblllllleeeeeee. I try to forget the 80's but shit like this doesn't help me. Of course you are all welcome to your own opinions, but seriously, this album sucks. Some songs are catchy, but the lyrics fuck it up. Doyle has definitely improved. The music isn't that bad, but the titles blow goats (except for day of the dead). Cheers J. Oh yeah, I paid $25 for this shit. Highest bidder gets it. Otherwise I'm going to break it!!!!!!! Only listened to once. Perfect condition. If you live within the Toronto area, I'll even drop it off to make sure that this shit is gone. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:23:32 -0500 From: TONY BRIDGES Subject: ANOTHER AMERICAN PSYCHO OPINION!!! I gotta say American Psycho is FANTASTIC, baby!!!There ya go, short and sweet! Favs gotta be American Psycho, Day of the Dead, and Dig Up Her Bones... kudoes to the boys in black 4 KILLER comeback!! Also... the more I listen to Samhain Initium, the more i think that it's as good as any Misfits stuff ever done... it's just got that "feel" to it! Lookin' forward to seeing the Boys in St. Louis... do Mississippi Nights again... PLEASE!!!Bigger venues lack that personal feel you get with smaller clubs crypt33@ldd.net p.s. I still have that D.R.I. laserdisc 4 trade..HELP! I wanna start collecting vinyl! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:54:47 -0400 From: "forever marlena's guy" Subject: Ain't nothing changed but the singer... Got A.P. a day late (I'm getting old folks, I forgot it was coming out yesterday), picked it up at a local indy chain store for $12.99, pumped it in the car on the way back home, and guess what? It's still the Misfits! Admittedly, first time out the opening instrumental "Abominable Dr. Phibes" threw me off, but for the rest of the album, the band on the album is pretty much the same one I "met" on Walk Among Us. It's great. Rock radio should be playing "Dig Up Her Bones" right now instead of Bush or Journey for the 1000th time. Michael Graves as a singer fills Glenn's shoes very nicely and doesn't have to rip off Elvis to do so. The backing vocals, even tho they're a little more cleaned up than the football-unison Misfits backvox of old, are what you'd expect real harmonies to sound like on a Misfits album! The choice of producer was cool. Daniel Rey manned the board for The Ramones, co-produced Soul Asylum's "Hang Time", and he did his usual good job here. Andy Wallace's mixing, well, we've heard him bring the ruckus for Rollins, Slayer, Nirvana, Sepultura etc. so he deserves some credit for this too. Great job, guys. It was worth the almost two-year wait! I'm already looking forward to the followup! forever marlena's guy mailto:outsideredge@crazysexycool.com OR mailto:forevermarlenasguy@thegym.net the FMG web network: The Outsider Edge Wrestling Newsletter Homepage http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/7563/index.html forever marlena's guy's Marlena page http://www.thegym.net/forevermarlenasguy fmg's bio page (under his old handle Righteous Black Duck): http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html "Don't go chasing waterfalls, please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to." - TLC "Revisions of history fare well in some company, But don't shove that bullshit down my throat" - Cyndi Lauper "All the critics, you can hang them. I'll hold the rope." - Public Enemy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:51:47 -0700 From: Grandpa Atomic Subject: doGgone... First, the replies: ChrisToter@aol.com spake: > Gramps--come on! Not all aol people are bad. When you can log onto the Internet out of a Georgia toilet, there's trouble. Eric J Peterson sed: > Also i saw a review of American Psycho in Terrorizer magazine, they gave it 4 1/2 out > of 5! take that rolling stone Well the magazine obviously has good taste to name themselves after one of the greatest US thrash bands of all time, and as much as I hate to agree with anything put out by the evil that is Jann Werner + Rolling Stone Hippie Love Inc., whoever reviewed the album is pretty damn correct. Still haven't read the inteview, someone send me it, damnit! MR JOSEPH F MARINO preached: > I THINK this album is solid and will > definitely be in my disc changer for a long time to come. Argh. I hate CD's. > However, the facts are simply that this IS a different band, and > these are different times. If G--nn D--zig was back in the band, > everyone would complain that it sounds too much like D--zig. Stop > the fuckin' comparisons. Just take the music for what it is. Unless it sounded like metal from the MTV music creation wharehouse, I gotta say I don't think I'd be complaining. Bottom line without Glenn they aren't the Misfits. In fact, if you ask me without Glenn, Franche + Mr. Jim they aren't the best Misfits, but I'll take what I can get. Will Glenn ever rejoin? I doubt it. He shows a little class. Thus the Misfits can never reach their former glory. Why? Jerry just doesn't get it. And since he is the official dictator-for-life of the reunited Misfits and has the other four on a very tight leash, it'll sound like he wants it to. Bad. > Basically, this album is what it is; stop comparing, let the past > alone, forget about names and labels and just ENJOY THE MUSIC. It's impossible to bury the past of the Misfits. Too much crap. Even the government couldn't bury some of Glenn or Jerry's conspiracies. cfarrell@idsi.net gleamed: > Whats up Fiendz, > I bought American Psycho. Sounds like Kiss and slayer collaborating > with Diesel boy. Some of the music is OK, but the vocals are for the most > part, bitchy. I don't know where you live, but there must be good musical taste in the water. > They really should have just thought of a new name. They've tarnished > the history of an otherwise divine band. You honestly think they'd bother with another name? If they weren't called the Misfits Jerry wouldn't have enough money to buy another small country. Here's a funny joke: Some Fiend: Hey Jerry, I heard your car is in the shop this weekend! Jerry: Yup. Some Fiend: What are you going to do? Jerry: I guess I'll have to pick one of the others. Har har har. Divine? Nay! There are better punk bands. Tammy S. roared: > Well i'm not going to go on about how i came to be interested in the > Misfits or any of that. Not until you get to know her. *Yawn* :O) > The boxset is just a tiny molecule to the collection i have. If you ask me, Tammy gets the trophy for being the best Misfits collector, seeing as how she's actually worked hard for her collection. It's not all about having money. > you come off sounding like some POMPOUS ASS! so what > if the bible is not 100% Misfits Samhain Danzig etc. (and so on...full paragraph of rant). Start up the patriotic music! Way to go Yamster, very well written, excellent. If I can add a few things of additional commentary... Picking on spelling and typos is just pompous humor best saved for newsgroups and mailing lists about owning yachts and beating Jorge the gardner for not properly distributing his watering of your six acre garden. Everyone can guess by the writing caliber of this fool's original message is that he's just another kid trying to prove himself. People make mistakes. If they are harped on for that, it's pure hypocrisy. Bitterness overload. Yow. > Now where do you find this info on your > own without the rantings of me or Gramps. You read Gramps' wonderful column at http://www.magicnet.net/~othello/columns/core.html ! Bring money! Send treats! It's the most fun ten minutes of unintelligible drab you'll ever get the chance to read! Get me off the streets! Read my column! > Most fiends who have a white vinyl Three Hits is > not going to tell you they paid $30 and three 12" records from the SST > label. EVB told me i was just lucky, Glenn gave me this look of utter > shock and almost fell of the counter top we were sitting on. Or if you're really smart, you simply pay $60, get those three songs and over a hundred more on a convienient box set. Leave those crazies paying $500 for something with a different serial number alone. Not meant to flame Tammy in particular or to really shoot off buckshot at most collectors, but to be honest the mental processes of paying obscene amounts of money to further a so-called "collection" is absolutely ridiculous. I'd like to think there are better things and more rewarding things in the world than spending $500 for nine minutes of music. I've never paid more than $35 for any record, and my collection is over 2,500 pieces, many of which are in the multiple hundreds. Trading is the way to go, people. And the one thing I truly don't understand is the concept of not selling these records later. If your goal is to get them all, good for you, you did it. Keeping them doesn't make much sense. If you were in the band, sure, I can understand. That makes perfect sense. But every record I own, including ones I was in the band or knew the band for, has a price. I have no sort of regret for selling these things...expieriences and the fun of collecting are certainly a lot more valuable, and money can be put to great purposes when the only cost is cleaning a record out of my house. I mean, Jesus. And the worst thing of all (and Tammy you are slightly guilty in your post) is bragging about your collection. I mean, what the fuck is that all about? I was lucky...I was there, I got most of these records at cost or free from the bands. Certainly luck is a massive part of it. Putting someone down for not having the original records is absolutely ridiculous, and bad-mouthing them for not knowing music as well as you do is equally ridiculous. I mean yeah, I have Minor Threat - Out of Step silkscreened with all four band member's signatures. Yeah I have a test press of Negative Approach's 7" and LP, both with John and Graham's signatures. Yeah I have everything including alternate vinyl from Infest, Crossed Out, Initial State, Neanderthal, Stark Raving Mad, Rattus, Gauze and a zillion more. Who cares? Not even me. I was there then! That's the only reason why. I paid low prices, or in some cases, nothing. Why brag about it? Oooh...I bought records in the mail, begin worship. To those just starting collecting, bypass the old stuff and collect what's coming out today. And in ten years you'll have it all, your colletion of 90s/2000 stuff will be as good as mine or others stuff from the 70's and 80's, and tons of memories and expieriences and other mental shit with it. Collecting stuff from your parent's or older siblings' era is just tossing clams to have a meaningless waxen slab. Saying someone is absolutely blessed with luck and bathes in four-leaf clovers to get a record for $30 and 3 12"s is a sad statement of current times. In past days, if you did that you'd be considered a fool. Aw well, live in the present, I guess. Strange days. Okay, guilty for that rant quality, but I felt something had to be said. Unlike the socially introvertic collector crowd who seems not to want to help but to be quiet, hoard, and rip you off (this includes many a distro head or newsgroup maven who puts up a front) I think everyone should know about good shit and fair shit, and Tammy gets credit for doing it. Although I admit, as I do occasionally, I re-stated myself a few too many times. Yeargh. Our Lord Spoketh: > 4) Samhain reunion - this is NOT happening. Sorry everyone. Steve Zing > just emailed me to let me know that he thought it was a hilarious joke. > By the way, be sure to check out his band Chyna at the Spiral in New York > City on Wednesday May 14th (tonight!) at 8pm. So trusting, is Mark. There are no unreleased Misfits songs...there will be no Samhain reunion...etc. Come on Mark, don't believe everything you hear. My two cents on the matter: Samhain has more members than just Steve Zing...if Glenn wants this band back together bet your ass it will...Glenn didn't say he'd reunite the Misfits but look what happened...Danzig the band is so godawful he'll go back to his second-best old project...there is a box-set coming out, is this a forebearer of the times? and is anyone else curious as to why it isn't out now? Hmmm. To say the least, I have a feeling Glenn has a few surprises for folks left. Me, I couldn't care less. But...don't write everything off, you underestimate the music buisness, which the Misfits are now unfortunately quite a large part of. Boy I watch too much X-Files. To quote the same speaker as above: "Do you know how paranoid you sound?" Yup. Scares me too. Secondly, my own topics, guaranteed 100% to trigger "bypass" in your subconcious: To the guy (I'm sick of cutting and pasting, sorry!) who said Geffen is making a mint off this Misfits release...what did you expect? When it comes to capitalism and money-making there are almost no people more skilled than those vultures in the music industry, one of the most fucked up and evil corporations on Earth. I saw the vinyl selling for $11.99 down at the store and immeadietly said "PASS!" I'll go to Vacuum and order ten great LPs for under $60 instead of blowing $12 on lousy cock rock. As for the CD, yeah, that thing is a total rip-off. Even if they got gouged by costs in any way (which I seriously doubt, as this is the big leagues and Jerry + company are a scruffy bunch of Babe Ruth players who bribed their way to the World Series) they are still making at least a $8 overhead on the damn thing. Take it from the horse's ass, CD's cost pretty much nothing to make. The profit? Goes to pay for all the records that didn't work this year, though I think that money would be better saved by firing the scout who picked up the non-selling band in the first place...kill record labels! "Limited" heavy black vinyl edition I seriously fucking doubt it. Limited as in 500K. Still plugging that Operator's Manual. What a great magazine it will be (and is and is!) That Bobby Steele interview should be tons of fun for you all to read. The best thing is that they haven't got to the part where Bobby obsesses on Jerry yet, it's all original topics, which makes it a helluva lot more fun to read. Hooray. I hate to abuse the rigorous bible rule of don't post off-topic, but I am still searching with no avail for a copy of the goddamned Assuck/OLD split. I have two originals of Necrosalvation if anyone wants to swap. Also digging through punk rock tombs in search of the Pack 12" reissue, I forgot to order it from distros and seeing as how I'm not paying big bucks for the original, I'd dig the reish. I'll pay up to $15 or I'll trade a CD or new LP or something silly like that if anyone has it. So, if you got either, please gimmie a buzz. Finally, I hate to do this, but if Norbert Sawall is out there, gimmie an e-mail, I haven't heard from you in some time and my e-mails to you have gone unreturned. My e-mail server sucks in a miserable way, as I get about 40% of the e-mails sent to me recently and people seem to think I just don't respond. So...where are ya pal? GRAMPS - the Sasquatch of Skate *GUILTY OF POSTING OVERLY LONG BIBLE E-MAILS* "Bottom-line: Ken Shamrock may throw a few fisticuffs, but Royce Gracie can kill you as soon as look at you." - Funny note in some mag ------------------------------ From: Blagripper@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: bobby's crying again Bobby says... I offered that to Jerry. I'm really convinced that his motives are to avoid giving me one penny - out of fear of the kind of competition I could give him if I had some oney to work with. I thought it was jerry and glenn that were the hypocrites and only in it for the money , well then again there goes Bobby with his own patented "foot in mouth" disease, you know bobby if you just kept your mouth shut for a little bit, then maybe you would get the respect you think you deserve, but when making comments like you did on your last post is the reason why most fiends dont like you or your pathetic attempt at music, i.e. the undead and times square, Bobby FUCK YOU and the fucking horse you rode in on, always raggin on people and then goin and doing the same shit that you claim they suppossedly did, heh heh chico, you are a joke. When are you gonna get it thru your hairsprayed hair that Glenn and Jerry can do what ever they want to do because they kick ass and you cant because you simply are a wanna be jobber? oh yeah Tammy, the wedding's off....lol, and as far as AMERICAN PSYCHO goes,. out of the 18 songs, only 3 suck and those songs are Walk Among Us , Crimson Ghost and Mars Attacks, the rest of the album Slays the competition, including you Bobby "choad" Steele, go back to your little hack band"times square" and pretend you are something youre not and that is a MISFIT! heh heh, later chico choads.... :) have a nice fucking day, Blag Jesus ------------------------------ From: ~*jas*~ Subject: American Psycho Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:43:41 -0500 yesyesyes... you've heard it all before...but this album kix ass. Despite what Rolling Stone said about it it got a B rating in Entertainment Weekly ("B-rating" how appropriate for a misfits record) which is really good especially for that mag. which is usually kind of hard & opinionated, but i don't think Michale sounds like Glenn at all anyway. I won't do a whole run-through of the tracks either but this is one album i can listen to all the way through without skipping...at first a couple of the heavier songs caught me off gaurd but after a couple listens i got used to the "heavier" sound...but i do like all the songs. Actually i think "Mars Attacks" is one of the catchier songs on there n' i really like it but then again that's my opinion. I'm not sure what else to say other than go buy it right now. -jas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: "Just a suggestion" Hey Brett, when Tammy said this to me two issues ago - > well i hate to break your heart Tim, but the version of Green Hell that > was on "MONDAY" and only monday, was the original 1940 version with > Vincent Price and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. not the one about the giantWasps. > Though if you read the lyrics to the song, i don't think that Glenn was > reffering to a movie about giant wasps. I was more than happy to learn that. I mean, shit, I didn't know that. Her post was clearly made to help me out, not an attack by any means. So where you get off attacking her is beyond me. Thanks Tammy. And than your attack on the Bible consisting of "pointless messages, horrid spelling, idiotic stories" etc. Well than, Brett, why don't you give us a list of guidelines we could all follow before posting. We would like this to be as PERFECT as possible for YOUR reading enjoyment. If it doesn't follow your guidelines, than out it goes. Include everything you would LIKE to see, and that which you would be "upset" about. And maybe as a punishment, repeat offenders could be banned, or suspended from posting on the Bible. So tell me what you think. ...Just a suggestion. Anxiously awaiting Brett's approval, Tim BTW - You're the same Brett that ironically shit on yourself trying to correct grammar a few months ago, huh? Read #292 to refresh your memory. ------------------------------ From: hate breader Subject: SORRY BOUT THAT Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:20:23 PDT Hey whats up? well i have heard the new AMERICAN PSYCHO its good but i was kind of disapointed cause its not really what i would expect from them see mike does a great job on vocals but jerry man you cant really hear the bass thats usually what hooks me in to a band is the basslines the ones you can hear its still good but i dont know when i first heard mike singing i thought he sucked but i think he does a good job on the cd one off the reasons would probibly be that it was live and it just didn t sound good but i have changed my mind its good and the queer at dee dee danzigs (me) school is a queer i hate him to death dont ask me to tell him stuff he is so ignorant he is a nazi who likes anti nazi alternative bands and he hangs out with a black girl who is a k k k person she supports bands agenst blacks but still she is blask a black kkk and a bunch of nazi posers that all the people are i hate them even the punx at my school hate them and the queers wanna kick our ass but they know they cant cause we have the punx at my school to help us i hate them so much we might get tehm all together and kick their ass SEE YA IN THE PIT (hell) DAVE --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Mr. Mike Siciliano" Subject: Sorry About the New Album Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:33:04 -0400 No offense to the Misfits music of old or their lives shows of any period in their history but their new album is a mockery of both of these. It is terrible. Down with the new album down i say burn it, ban it, get danzig back or ill kill Doyle Von Dumfuckstein, Jerry Only(c'mon guys use Caifa its a nice Italian name), Dr. Chud and Michale Graves. Maybe if they promise not to make any more new stuff and just play the old stuff i'll go easy on them. or maybe ill like the album in a month and forget about it(anything's possible) well whatever Mike Siciliano p.s. tell Mr. Graves to put a little more "Uh" or other incomprehensible Danzigisms into his singing and them tell all the misfits to stop getting "vocal instruction" like it says on the inside of the album!!!!!!!!!!! they sang fine when i saw'em on tour last June. ------------------------------ From: Saxton_D@mediasoft.net (Super Shredder) Subject: American Psycho? Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:29:29 -0400 What is all this about American Psycho "kicking ass"? The album is pathetic except for about 5 songs (The Haunting, American Psycho, Day of the Dead, Abominable Dr. Phibes and Don't Open 'til Doomsday). Couldn't they have used a different name or something? This is NOT the Misfits I have loved for so long and I hope that if they come out with another album, that it kicks the hell outta American Psycho. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:42:13 -0400 From: David Moon Subject: SHIT SANDWICH! Hey all you "fiends", Get your blow torches ready. The review of American Psycho in Rolling Stone should have been merely a two word review reading: SHIT SANDWICH! Who the fuck is Jerry kidding?(aside from a number of you) "This Island Earth" and "Crimson Ghost"? These tunes make "Hellhound" and "Wolfs Blood" seem totally brilliant. All these songs are just a little too happy and cheesy. "Mars Attacks" is complete and utter Spinal Tap. Nevermind the Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein thing being a random spur-of-the-moment joke, this whole album is a random spur-of-the-moment joke!!! Even the most descent songs on A.P. don't touch the old stuff. I saw Michale and the boys last year live and they totally blew me away. They were amazing. I was really looking forward to this album -- what a disappointment. Now I must take this opportunity to apologize to someone: Dear Mr. Danzig, I'm sorry I never liked your band DANZIG(it wasn't my thing). I am sorry for constantly making fun of your tough guy image and your silly songs about evil. I guess you really are the man. You were the Misfits. I just never realised this before. But most of all, I am sorry for the release of American Psycho. My sympathy goes out to you and your family in this time of need. To anyone out there who has not rushed out and wasted their hard earned money on American Psycho, don't do it! Wait for Static Age on July 15. You'll be glad you did. Criswell P.S. Flames will only be welcome from those who know where the SHIT SANDWICH reference is from. P.S.S. And no, I'm not punker than fuck. I just like music that takes some effort and intelligence to create. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:19:06 +0000 From: Julian Baldry Subject: Eerie Von... lowlife? I don't think so. >I know a reliable source who says Eerie von used to call her friend Jeff >and say stuff like "You don't know who you're dealing with, you better >watch yourself" If you watch the Danzig 1 homevideo, Eerie does seem >like a lowlife, so I believe it. First up, the above may well be your take on things but I've actually spent a brief period of time with Eerie and I can assure you that he was/is one of the most friendly, down to earth and generous people I have ever met. The guy had never even heard my name before I met him yet he quite happily took some good friends (Hi PDH!) and myself to the studios he uses (also where Danzig made the first record) and even bought us all breakfast. True, that may not prove too much but I base my view on people on how I'm treated by them and that guy made us feel like royalty. >I offered that to Jerry. I'm really convinced that his motives are to >avoid giving me one penny - out of fear of the kind of competition I >could give him if I had some money to work with. That is plainly ridiculous. Bobby, you said it yourself, labels were only interested in Jerry (who, like him or hate him, DOES have a higher overall profile than yourself) if he could bring them the Misfits... why the hell would they give a rat's ass about some band you made up? Therefore, as Jerry is now on a major it's unlikely anyone would take an 'ex-Misfit' band on as both he & Glenn have now been snapped up... in other words, you CAN'T now compete with Jerry. What is more money going to get you? Nicer record sleeves, better production and promotion? Yeah, all of those. One thing it won't do is make your music any better, in fact, many great bands have turned to shit once they came into money... so maybe Jerry's doing you a favour :) BTW, there's really no need for you to go into a diatribe concerning your theories about conspiracies that exist within the entire music industry just to keep ol' Bobby Steele from getting anywhere. Julian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:43:47 +0000 From: Julian Baldry Subject: Kerrang! Magazine review of American Psycho This review has been transcribed word for word and the original does contain inaccuracies and errors... THE MISFITS - AMERICAN PSYCHO (4 out of 5) There are cult bands and then there are cult bands - and The Misfits are probably one of the most notorious and influential of all. Formed in 1977 by bassist Jerry Only and vocalist Glenn Danzig, the New Jersey outfit put out a handful of classic crash-bang-wallop punk records which now fetch quite ludicrous sums of money, and promptly split up in 1983 before more than a handful of spiky-haired oiks had even heard of them. Danzig went on to have a sense of humour bypass and a successful solo career, and that perhaps would have been the end of it were it not for the fact that Soundgarden, Guns N' Roses and - most notoriously - Metallica cut cover versions that raised The Misfits' profile to legendary status. If The Misfits had sold as many records while they were around as they did bootleg T-shirts and patches after they split, then they'd have been bigger than God. Up until now, that's the way most people thought it should have stayed - you shouldn't even try to recreate something like that. When news filtered through that The Misfits had reformed without Danzig, the only thing louder than the cries of dismay were the gales of laughter. But somehow, The Misfits have managed to return from the dead with two new members, and knocked out an album that, while perhaps not classic, certainly doesn't bring shame to their glorious legacy of brutality. The new drummer is Dr Chud, and he hits things hard, which is what drummers generally do. The new vocalist - one Michael Graves -on the other hand, has much to live up to. And do we dig Graves? Well, his voice isn't buried quite so deep as his predecessor's was, but he certainly gets away with it. And, aside from occasionally sounding alarmingly similar to Wolfsbane, all the songs stick pretty close to what fans would expect. It's still crash-bang-wallop topped off with a bunch of 'Woh-oh' Hammer Horror choruses and about dead dudes and all things spooky. There's even a nod to their past with a track called 'Walk Among Us'. True, American Psycho lacks a Last Caress, Skulls or Hatebreeders but it's big, dumb fun - just like their recent London show. It could have all gone wrong, like the pathetic 'Munsters Today' TV show which attempted to feed of it's '60s predecessor like an ugly, bloated leech. Instead, we get something more akin to 'Addams Family Values', not the same as the black-and -white original but well worth checking out all the same. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:13:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Franz Ardito Subject: american psycho I finally got the cd and this is what i think of it: first of all i have to admit that i had some doubts on the whole reunion thing and so i've listened to the album with some prejudice. Even more honestly, though, i have to say that american psycho is not bad at all. i mean what do you espect from the misfits? rocky punk-pop, simple riffs, and powerful vocals. Well, that's exactly what you get, so i think that all the complaints about the sound and shit like that are completely unjustified. If you look at it this album kicks ass compared to the majority of similar productions that are out today. It's simple, fast, direct power-punk, after all the misfits invented this kind of music, they have all the rights of playing it. question for mark: i saw the vinyl at the record store, and i've read on the bible that there is a bonus track on it. is it the same as the ghost track on the cd ("hell night" i guess) or is it another one? bye franz ------------------------------ From: KramerPunk@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:48:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Motley Crue's pussy drummer When I sent Tommy Lee an e-mail (T Bone 00@aol.com) that asked why did the Misfits and Henry Rollins chase Motley Crue down the street before a show at the Whiskey, his response was "Those guys are full of shit! Never happened!" What a lying sack of shit. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:00:05 -0700 From: Greg Tice Subject: My Opinion Like most fiends I bought American Psycho on the 13th. The album kicks ass as long as you don't expect it to sound like the old Misfits. I detect some Motorhead and Maiden influence=) Graves is a great vocalist and I'm happy he isn't trying to emulate Glenn. My Newspaper gave the new album an insulting two out of four stars. The obvious reason was because Glenn was not the singer/songwriter. I've never trusted newspaper or magazine reviews, their always so biased. Reviewers all kiss MTV's ass and praise the mainstream shit. Mainstream is just a bunch of unoriginal fag bands that will be popular for 3 years max. The Misfits will survive every fad because fiends are loyal and will allway's support the Misfits. And an interesting story for everyone: When I walked up to the counter holding American Psycho and wearing my Jerry Only shirt the Cashier(brace your self)said the Misfits were just an older version of Marylin Manson!Can you beleive it. I promptly corrected him by saying the Misfits may wear makeup but they play music not shit. Not everyone can be as enlightened as us fiends. Sometimes we have to tolerate the common morons. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:31:06 -0700 Subject: Hidden track on A.P. From: Chop_Top@t-online.de (PtrMlr) hi, just saw an ad in a german mag for American Psycho - it's advertised "incl. hidden track!". anyone heard of this before? probably euro-only? who knows... who cares... Peter. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:39:50 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Lots O stuff Hello Fiends, >From: undead@juno.com (bobby steele) >Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:14:44 EDT >I offered that to Jerry. I'm really convinced that >his motives are to avoid giving me one penny - Exactly This is what I think as well here Bobby. I just think that jerry feels it is his duty to support the family now and to do that he wants doyle and rocky. Now would you let rocky be your mgr? I am sure they have had probs with geffen over this. But he just wants to keep the misfits Trade Mark in the family, kinda like a family buisness. I mnean this whole Maxâs X-Mas is so simple to figure out guys I mean just look at it, why wont jerry release the normal copy? Cuz there is serious problems with the guitars, Okay lets translate that statement: I dont want to have bobbyâs guitar on this cuz I want My brother Doyle to get payed for this! I am sure that there is no hint of Joey on there either lord knows who is on this thing doing the drums! Bassically that tape is just a tape of Glenn singing acording to jerry . It is kinda like he wants everyone to get payed if he is related or close to them or feels like paying them and there is soo much ,more I could go into but that is all I will say about that. But as far as you are concerned Bobby it is just obvious that he just doesnt want to give you a dime, or if he does he will prolly give just a little of what you deserve and think that you would be happy with the scraps from his table! Or I have thought about how he feels about you, yoiur kinda like a bad ex- girlfriend! We have all had them I mean when you dump somone you dont want to see them riding down the street with brad pitt! But you did this to jerry you started a great band and rivaled the misfits, so there is no denying your talent, or comitment to a band. And wereânt those the reasons they gave for giving you the boot! Anyone who questions Bobbyâs integrity as a muscian or a person is just ignorant. But onwards and upwards I always say and getting to the new album! Now mind I am about to give my thumbs up on this! You may ask well how can I support this band when I know jerry is such a scumbag, well it is like this: I may not like what jerry has done to bobby or whomever but there is one thing I will always support and that is the misfits as an institution. Because I have never seen jerry be anything but great to any of his fans, sure he may stick his foot in his mouth from time to time but hey these are certified press secretaryâs here! Also there are 3 guys in this band who are genuinly great guys with a musical vision for that is 100% the MISFITS! And Their integity will keep me strong in my beliefs and love for this band. Besides all the politics and bullshit is just that and will prolly always plague the misfits but the one constnat that will always endure is the music, cuz when it all comes down to it the misfits are a beaste all its own. Glenn may have stole stuff but ithas evolved into itâ s own entity. So lets not get caught up in the politics lets leave that tarry caprezzaâs senate friends! IT IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE ABOUT MUSIC! Cuz trust me guys if you get to know people in any band you are gonna know too much and soon enough you would get to the point where you wouldnt see jerry only on stage you would see jerald Ciaffa in a halloween costume playing music to a bunch of punks and freaks! well this is my take on the new album. I LOVE IT! I have had some of the songs for a while but just haveânt said anything I figure I would wait till we had a free for all here. I love evry song, IMO the weakest song on the whole thing is mars attacks, I wish they had just used the old sessions version they did over the summer. Another this is that I really thought that michale was not going to be able to handle the writing like glenn did but he did! I love the lyrics to these songs. My fav tune is Dig up her bones, could this be a possible misfits love song? I mean the guy is so heartbroken that his woman has died that he wants to die , but he is too scared to kill himself so he is going to the graveyard to dig up her bones!Michales voice is amazing all the wooh oh ohâs are great the first time I heard any of these songs it was just when I first got into the fits I was trying my hardest to figure out the words and sing along with I thought was going on. I love it. When I listen to this record I am proud of the guys I seriously didnt think they could do it but they did. And now I anxiously await the summer tour and seeig as many shows as possible! Because I canât wat to hear this stuff live cuz they one thuing the did which I love is they had jerry and CHUD carry the backing vocals so it sounds just like a live >I still have everything . . . including posters that no one has seen >since those days . . . unless they've been guests at my parents house. >D-rod has seen some of these, one of which is in very fragile condition >and I'm trying to find a way to preserve it. It was silkscreened with >oil-based ink onto a silver mylar surface (only 5 were made) and the ink >is falling off. OH my god yes he keeps everything! The only price of admission is and open mind and money for dinner! The posters he showed me were amazing he still has everything! See the thing is about Bobby is the misfits will always be special to him and I will say it right now even after all the shit that he has been through he would go back with open arms to jerry and the fits if he was let, cause the one thing about bobby is he always believed in the misfits even when they bashed him. I am sure he still believes in the misfits now, I mean I know he doesnt like jerry but he likes michale and chud and doyle. >Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:01:18 -0400 >From: MK >:Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #333 >7) Email - I will lose this email account at some random time during the > next 2 months. I do not know when. I will also be going on various >trips and moving to DC, so I'll be slightly busy over the next few >weeks. Mark, email me I have to talk to you I am not going home for the summer, so I gotta give you my new addy and phone number. >Misfits Central has been the "official" (or as official as the Misfits get) >web site for several years now. I'd like to see a copy of this flier. >:Was it put out by Geffen? Yeah this sux mark I mean I was kinda thinking that maybe in a long shot that michale would remember me and I could say that I got a thanx, but no mention of the bible or you or the entire web page, but geffens http: is there and that sux! Thats all for now fiends! D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:58:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Utah Harkerr Subject: US tour date I just opened up the Village Voice & saw an ad for the MIsfits w/Blanks 77 at Irving Plaza in NY on June 20th. Tickets go on sale 2morrow. I thought there were no confirmed shows for the US.Hey Mark(or anybody else "on the inside"), you might want to look into this. If this is a definite date, there must be others planned. Maybe enough to post here. -art ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 18:27:07 +0300 From: Bauh Subject: err...? Hi Why didn't I get bible #331? Boring... In bible #330 Sara/Oblivion told us about Electric Hellfire Club's gig. I think that you were stupid. Do you have to hate a band if you don't like 'em? Maybe the gig wasn't the right one for EHC to play, but why you bother. You were childish. I hope that you all out there aren't as stupid. If you have something to say, dear Sara, mail directly to me. Bauh ------------------------------ From: RevHugosXe@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: newsletter i actually haven't read a bible in a few weeks,but i read the new one and saw that everyone was waiting for the newsletter.somewhere on misfits central it says fiend club packages were sent out around Feb 14.i never got one if they were.i seem to remember talk of a membership card that would get you discounts at shows for merchandise,and to pick up club packages at shows rather than mailing them. what's going on with all that.anyway,i got the newsletter today(Wed) and i noticed that it's a bit outdated.it gives a tentative release date of april 8,the album was released yesterday almost a month later than that.and the pin up offer must be sent in by may 13,yesterday.if nobody got the newsletter until today,then i guess no ones getting the posters?!is that date being pushed back?and how about the date for the skull contest(may 31),i plan to send at least one in,but i'll need a bit of time. on my freinds block theres one of those centuries old tiny graveyards with about 7 graves,and we are considering taking the risk of a getting caught as opposed to showing real loyalty and grave robbing for the misfits.i want that skateboard!lastly(I know this is long),Ileft school early yesterday and got the new album before it was on the shelves,and I love it!I was skeptical,and can see in certain parts the 80's metal thing,but i like that!It reminds me of something you'd see in one of those movies like "Wraith" comes to mind.Nothing memorable?I downloaded the soundbytes the other day and had them stuck in my head for days after one listen,this is a cool album!Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents that I know you don't want!Lets see some limited fiend club 7"s now! hugo hurtlock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:33:48 -0700 From: HORRORKID Subject: PSYCHO WAVS I just wanted to let all the monster-kids who hadnt heard the new cd yet that I have a few full songs up at my site http://www.zianet.com/horrorkid/ I also have some original 'fits and Samhain songs as well with more to come .. check into HORROR HOTEL ------------------------------ From: ERIK CHEAPSKATE Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:39:15, -0500 Subject: American Psycho Ooh. I was shocked. I actually _like_ this album, and I'm a narrow- minded crusty punk. Makes me want to pogo... Does anyone out there think that Michale sounds a LOT like Evil Presley (of the Independents) on this album? Not really like Glenn at all, much more like Evil... --Erik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 17:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Woh-Oh! Here comes the dead Subject: not just evil...eville I give the evil eye to whoever bought the last and probably only copy of american psycho on vinyl in Newark (from Bert's). I know you're on here. On a lighter note, I had a coupon for reprints, and now I have an extra copy of an orgasmic--to say the least---picture of michale...so whoever writes me a good letter saying how fine he is gets it. And it's free...well unless you count signing away your soul to me, and being sentenced to eternal damnation in the fiery depths of hell, and being in constant agony for ever and ever. But actually that's a good deal cause Glenn will definitely be there, right? Oh yeah remember to include your address in your letter (and you aren't eligible if you already sold your soul for a donut....doh!). see you in hell.... Leah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:32:22 -0700 From: Inzo Subject: I need a drummer Does anyone live in the San Fransisco bay area? My drummer is quitting and we need to replace him. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 18:55:18 -0400 Subject: dead kings rise From: Ryan N Weedon hey fiends, about the lyrics that were posted for american psycho, after listening to the cd, i discovered that "hell night" was the hidden track, but what is with the song "dead kings rise"? was this song cut or something? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 18:59:28 -0500 From: Gregg Subject: American Psycho Feinds, here is my reveiw on AP. abominable dr. phibes-sounds like samhain but is a great opening. american psycho-i like this song very much and it is a very harcore tune. speak of the devil-the vocals on this song could use some improvement but it's still the misfits. walk among us-this song has the best opening on the album, the lyrics rule to!!!! the hunger-one of the best songs on the album, the echoey vocals make this song very creepy. from hell they came-good tune but gets a little boring because of the lyrics 'cause thay dont change but hey its still cool. dig up her bones-for all the people that say this song sounds like glam rock WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!THIS IS THE BEST SONG ON THE ALBUM AND YOU JUST CANT HELP SINGING ALONG WITH IT!!!! blacklight-a little slower than i expected-same as the hunger. ressurection-MAN DO I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!!!!this is the coolest tune i have heard in my four years of being a feind!!!!!! this island earth-same as walk among us crimson ghost-same as american psycho. day of the dead-mike's vocals kick on this song!!!!!!! the haunting-AHHHHHHH!!!!!!THIS SONG RULESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mars attacks-okay but not the best. hate the living,love the dead-man, i love the lyrics!!!!"smashing embreos cut off heads"!!! shining-how could anybody wright lyrics this cool!!???!!!I mean just listen to the words-"control the urge to spit up vile worms,soul. monsters seduced by her attention,she's draining the infection" is that cool or what!!!!!but one thing-this seems like its about the movie poltergeist than the shining. dont open till doomsday-a definite classic. hellnightsame as doomsday brian, ------------------------------ From: FriendofP@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 18:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: For sale or trade... I have a white vinyl copy of Legacy of Brutality and a copy of the boxset promo cd for sale or trade. Email if you're interested... ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:25:18 -0500 Subject: For some reason I stopped getting the bible and don't know why! I've got the same email address as always and didn't cancel. rabid doctor http://www.mindpulse.com/users/redrum ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:43:32 -0700 From: mhansen@roar.gfalls.wednet.edu (Mark Hansen) Subject: American Psycho I just want to say that it is pretty funny that all these people who haven't heard American Psycho say how it sounds like "Cock rock metal, glam rock" and other insults. Now that the album's out and people have heard the whole thing, it is getting good reviews and it's "such a great album". So in the future, listen to an album before you slam it. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:28:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Russ... but probably Bryan" Subject: What's in a name? Can any Misfit gurus out there tell me, along with the rest of us idjuts, about some Misfit names? What's Doyle's real name? What did the P.C. stand for? What's Dr. Choad's, er, Chud's real name? Is Michale Graves' real name Michale Graves? What's Glenn's real last name? Steele? Robo? Googy? Franche? Fill me in. Every Misfit there ever was. Every alias. I like trivial information. *** I hope to Beezlebub that the new Misfits don't make a video. It would piss me off to the extreme to go to the mall and see one out of every five twelve-year-olds dressed all in black and sporting devilocks. ------------------------------ From: GhoulFiend@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 03:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Movies For Fiends Fiends, Let the D's continue... 37) Duel (1971) The only reason this is even up here is because out of sheer boredom I used to this to death on those Saturday morning TV matinees after the cartoons were over. BTW..it's the first made-for-TV movie adaptation of a Stephen King story. 38) Driller Killer (1974) Don't leave a drill near a failed artist in Manhattan unless you want to look like swiss cheese. 39) Drive-In Massacre (1974) Once upon a time there were these cool places where teenagers could drink beer, get laid, and watch bad slasher movies in the luxury of their well-padded backseats. This would be one of those movies.... 40) The Dunwich Horror (1970) Based somewhat on an H.P. Lovecraft story, you'll recognize the original Gidget (Sandra Dee) and Al from Quantum Leap (Dean Stockwell). Who says horror movies don't breed talent!?!? 41) Easy Rider (1969) Would there be as many bikers in the U.S. if it weren't for this movie? Jack Nicholson, Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper paved the road with this.. 42) Eaten Alive (1976) 3 elements of horror in this movie about a crocodile tourist trap. Carolyn Jones (Morticia from the Addams family TV show), Robert Englund (Freddy Krueger), and Tobe Hooper directs (Texas Chainsaw Massacre). 43) Eegah! (1962) A caveman falls in love with a real groovy chick and all hell breaks loose. Now you know what Richard Kiel (Jaws) did before James Bond movies took him away. 44) The Exorcist (1973) My dad wouldn't walk down dark hallways for a month. The cross-fucking scene is not to be missed for those of us who blaspheme. So few movies are this scary and well-made anymore. I can never tire of this masterpiece. 45) El Hombre Y El Monstruo (1947) A pianist sells his soul to the devil to become the greatest performer with a catch..every time he plays a certain melody he grows a bunch of buck teeth and fuzz. 46) Faces of Death (1974) Except for the animal scenes which offend me tremendously, this movie is a dull documentary full of death, suicides, executions etc. I'm far too jaded for this but those of you who can still be disgusted should see it 47) The Fall of the House of Usher (1960) Great sets, story and a dark moody feel give this Poe tale a kick in the ass. Vincent Price is awesome and steals the show. 48) Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (1966) This is one of the coolest movies of all time! ( Varla (Tura Satana the goddess), Rosie (Haji the muse), and Billie (Lori Williams the nymph) are strippers looking for kicks. Hungry for action, they meet with trouble each time they meet up with "squares" as they cruise in the desert. When Varla wants a hot dog, she takes it! When called a hussy, she B-B-Q's your face! When messed with, she uses her Judo to beat you to death! Sex! Hot Rods! Murder! Go-Go boots! Cleavage! This movie gives new meaning to the phrase "Bitch Goddess" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------- I didn't include Die! Die! My Darling (1965) simply because it isn't all that memorable to me. If it weren't for the title I would never have given it a look. See it for yourselves and judge. I don't want any letters complaining about me not listing Evil Dead. I repeat I AM ONLY LISTING MOVIES 1976 AND BEFORE Last night i interviewed GWAR for my website, got stoned in the bus with Slymenstra Hymen, got my boots licked by Techno-Destructo backstage and got rained on by blood and semen. These guys are so cool and so talented. I can't believe they make everything themselves. Hunter Jackson (Techno) wants to put me in this line of videos he's doing so you will have to check it out. Well it is now the witching hour and I'm out of blood so off I go to ravage my prey... Yours Ghoulishly. Persephone P.S. If anyone wants to see my free homepage, e-mail me. I have a full gallery of devilish pics to chill your bone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:31:52 +0100 From: JOHN KLINGNER Subject: Don't badmouth American Psycho! I have been a Misfits fan for a while now and was wary of hearing they were releasing a new album with a new singer.I saw them in August of 96 and was impressed with Michale Graves, and with the new songs I had heard, but I still wasn't sure wether the new record would cut it.I heard it for the frist time yesterday and I am happy to say that IT KICKS ASS!!!Although Michale will never be Glenn(would he want to be?), his voice adds a whole new element to the band and I firmly believe that he was the best possible choice for a new lead singer, on the basis of his sexy, scratchy voice and his amazing stage presence.The album in itself is very much in the old-school Misfits style, although it combines Walk Among Us with Earth AD, instead of staying with either totally melodic or totally thrasher, and the mix works!!I suggest that all the Glenn purists wake up and realize that without Jerry and Doyle, the Misfits would be nothing and should at least respect their decision to move on without Glenn and make a new life for themselves as the Misfits. Margaret Holmes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:51:19 -0400 (EDT) From: your worst nightmare <02459@udel.edu> Subject: You're never gonna get me, I'm the Crimson Ghost Leanna, I tried to write you at the new address you gave me, but it came back to me. I have your 8x10. please email me. Emily ------------------------------ From: John Rogers Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 08:03:19 -0400 <<1) What is your: Bible name, Real name, when you were born and where?>> Slavemonkey. Real Name: Erik Shun. I was born on March 6 in a hospital <<2) What do you do: Work, School, Bands etc?>> Sit on my ass and sleep in school... <<3) How you got into the Misfits in the first place and how you became a Bible member?>> I got into the misfits when my neighbor let me hear mommy... like 2 weeks later i was at the CD store and got Walk Among Us. I got on the bible after looking for lyrics to the songs... <<4) What are your other interests: Other music, things you like to do, or other things you collect( other than Misfits, Samhain and Danzig Records and stuff)?>> I like: Nine Inch Nails; Korn; Pantera; Ministry; Dnazig; Goldfinger; Sex Pistols; Clash; Drown; Skinny Puppy; Pigface; Zombie; KMFDM; Manson; Nirvana; Fear Factory; Ozzy; Megadeth; Metallica; Anthrax; Sister Machine Gun; PWEI; Tool and a shitload of others... if you wanna know... email me <<5) Last book you read?>> SPHERE By Michael Chrichton (sp?) -- Slavemonkey Malum Nunquam Abolesco ------------------------------ From: PUnX972668@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #334 I HEARD THE MISFITS ARE GONNA PLAY THE FENIX IN YORK,PA AND I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE COULS CONFIRM THIS OR HAS ANY INFORMATION ABOUT ANY PA,NY,NJ SHOWS THANX -DAVE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Geoff Wilson Subject: One more review of AP... In case anyone is interested, here is the review of AP from PUNKASFUK! magazine (http://www.blclinks.net/~paf/)... ================================================================= MISFITS -- AMERICAN PSYCHO For a decade, the Misfits have been my all-time favorite band. Therefore, I approached the new _American Psycho_ CD with much trepidation. How could it live up to my, or any fiend's, lofty expectations? Without Glenn Danzig penning the tunes, and devoid his nigh-legendary baritone, how good could it be? Upon listening, however, I was tempted to proclaim "It's alive! It's alive!", because _American Psycho_ exceeded any of my expectations. The CD is remarkably good. Doyle's crashing guitars, reliable skin-bashing courtesy of Dr. Chud, and Jerry Only's menacing, omnipresent bass provide a thunderous tsunami of sound to back the furious howlings of Michale Graves. The songs are overall, quite good, and a few even rise to the level of excellent (e.g., "The Haunting," "This Island Earth," "Dig Up Her Bones," and "American Psycho.") Almost all of the songs are very catchy, and in that respect may remind the listener of the magic that made the Misfits so special in the first place. This is not the Misfits of days past, however. Gone is some of the lethal intensity of songs like "Bullet." Fortunately, though, this CD is blessed with excellent production, which the 80's era Misfits lacked. And purists need not despair because of this development -- _American Psycho_ manages to retain the energy and raw power absent in so many studio productions. Moreover, there are a variety of sounds on this new CD that harken to influences as diverse as the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, late 80's thrash, and the original Misfits of various eras (particularly the Earth A.D. period.) Last, enormous credit should go to Michale Graves. Stepping in the shoes of Glenn Danzig was no doubt a daunting task -- one that required that he overcome the doubts and loyalties of legions of fans. With _American Psycho_, Graves should put all doubts to their much deserved death. Graves is no mere Danzig wannabe, as some mistaken critics have foolishly opined. Graves has an energetic and powerful voice that is as fresh as it is unique, and has proven that, for the Misfits, there can be such a thing as life after Danzig. Highly recommended. ERNST VON HEIDEGGER ================================================================ ------------------------------ From: "Guech" Subject: American Psycho Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:19:38 -0400 Fiends, I must admit that I was extremely reluctant when I heard the Misfits were making a comeback. Not so much that Glenn was not in the band anymore. But that I found it hard to believe that anything they can do now could ever compare to the music they have already composed. When I first heard the Misfits it put me somewhere I have never been before. Its no surprise to me why they have such a loyal following. Obviously their music has affected others as it did me. Now it came to AMERICAN PSYCHO. I first downloaded a couple of songs off the Internet. I instantly found myself in awe. It is the Misfits sound back again. To me it was not so much Glenn's voice but the background "Wohs-ohhs" that made the music so great. That is what makes AMERICAN PSYCHO so great. And YES it is great. It is classic Misfits but much better recorded then their older stuff. It is crisper than it was but without sounding fake. Graves does one hell of a job replacing a legend and after listening to him it is hard not to notice the resemblance to Glenn. I have been a Misfits fan for years now and I don't expect a piece of shit magazine like Rolling Stone to give the Misfits anything but a shitty review. If they would have reviewed Walk among Us when it first came out they would have gave it the same shitty review. So I don't put much stock in Rolling Stone reviews. They only give bands like Beck and U2 good reviews because they use different musical styles. But I don't like talking into a mic. I like people that actually sing. If you want to see some good reviews of AMERICAN PSYCHO check out: http://www.allstarmag.com/revs/ and http://www.mrshowbiz.com/reviews/musicreviews/ Lastly I would like to thank Mark for all he does because it is his work that is making people look at the Misfits for what they are "Legends" The Misfits are back! Guech P.S. Hey Bobby what's the possibility of a Misfits/Danzig/Times Square show anytime soon? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 03:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Fama Subject: (This is it Mark) THIS POST IS EXTREMELY LONG, SKIP IT IF YOU SO DESIRE... > From: undead@juno.com (bobby steele) > >Or why not at least re-dub them with YOU on guitar? > I offered that to Jerry. I'm really convinced that his motives are to > avoid giving me one penny - out of fear of the kind of competition I > could give him if I had some oney to work with. Well, of course that is only your theory, but if you are correct, then he is pretty pathetic to refuse cooperation purely out of spite -- not to mention being stupid, because he would still make more money by releasing the album (and splitting part of the profits with you) than by not releasing it at all (which appears to be what is happening -- unfortunately for us). > In fact; I just got an email from someone who says he brought up my name > to Glenn recently, and Glenn reiterrated the fact that the band was at > its best with me and Joey. That's one of the reasons I don't buy the whole "Glenn is ashamed of his past" business in regards to the Misfits. If he were ashamed, would he care what the new Misfits do? No. Instead, he says things like the above, which indicate that (in his mind) the reformation of the band is an insult to the "true" Misfits. If the old Misfits were a source of shame, then there would be nothing to be insulted about. > Absolutely!!! But he refuses to talk about the FITS publicly. Remember > the HEADBANGERS BALL episode ? Maybe now...although he has mentioneda few odd things here or there in various interviews. > I guess I'm not making this very clear. Sure Glenn played some of the > songs, but he refused to talk about it. Jerry did nothing. I did the Again, he didn't always refuse -- only in the last few years. If you read most of the Samhain- and early Danzig-era articles on Mark's page, (which you probably have already), then you see that the Misfits frequently come up. Actually, there is a Thrall-Demonsweatlive -era (1993) article in RIP ("Demons Down Under") in which Glenn mentions the Misfits. He says how the songwriting became progressively more serious from EAD to Samhain and finally Danzig. "It's time to grow up" -- this seems to be his attitude towards his first band: not shame, just a belief that more serious stuff needs to be done. > songs and answered any questions. While Jerry had thrown away everything > (practically) - including the only other copy of the Halloween 79 video - Again, this would be pretty stupid, as this stuff must be worth a great deal of money -- either as new releases or just for someone's private collection. > > If anything kept the Misfits' legacy alive it was > >was Glenn's (re-)release of Misfits records, his continued production > Again. That was only for the money. Possible -- even probable. Although 1997 -- not '87 -- is the best time to make money on Misfits merchandise. If Glenn were purely motivated by financial gain, why would have stopped making Misfits shirts in the last year or two? Probably because he doesn't want to risk association with what he believes to be (Jerry's) sinking ship. > Not when someone CLAIMS to be acting as an agent for all the members - > which is basically how Glenn, and now Jerry had done. CAROLINE is still > liable nonetheless - which is why they were a subject in Jerry's lawsuit > - and now mine. As I understand it, did Glenn not own all legal rights throughout the 1980s and early 1990s? Did the 1993 settlement not disestablish those exclusive rights, such that EACH member would receive equal royalties in releases (supposedly, 20% each, except Glenn's 40%)? If this, and everything you say, is true, then Caroline has no business giving one member everyone's share to distribute as he sees fit. > > I especially find it > >difficult to believe that the members got that much since only Glenn > >appeared on every song on the set, and he gets double (40%) of what > >others do. (Although he, too, claims to have received nothing). > > According to fairly reliable sources; Glenn got $70,000 too. This is part > of what's so confusing. No one wants to give a straight answer to me or Yeah...the only reason I brought it up was that the amount seemed high. Especially high if one guy gets double what everyone else does, and that same guy is the only one involved with every recording on the entire boxset -- and is even involved more than once (ie: as singer and as overdubbed guitar, bass, or drums) on many of the songs. So right there, a good chunk of money falls in one person's hands. If everyone else still gets $70 000 for much their more limited invlovement, then how much did Glenn get? And how much was the total pie? None of my business, of course, but I'm just curious... Anyway, good luck in your lawsuit(s). >>Subject: New Danzig EP > I sure hope this one redeems B.A.D.. Knowing Glenn - it'll be a better > job than the first. He always manages to snap back. Don't count on it. I love Blackacidevil, although I understand why some other Danzig fans don't. I don't agree with most of the criticisms made of the album, but I'd bet money that what these people don't like about 5 will only be more abundant on Bleed Angel. They'll probably just have to wait awhile until he tires of this style of music too. > From: Jason > Why would he (Bobby) go to the trouble of over-dubbing his own guitar? Because the original guitar on the recording is supposedly unaudible or deteriorated or something (and that supposedly is the reason tha Doyle's overduns were necessary). > If he really cared about his fans he would've named his band something else > and played, not wait years and years until he got the right to reform the > Misfits. Point taken, although he did try that with Kryst. (Okay, not the playing part). > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) > Subject: Just way to much bullshit... > Boy Brett you sure had a lot to say last bible. I'm sorry if my post took up too much space. Look closely and see that there are actually two separate posts, as the late one had been accidentally misplaced by our beloved benefactor. > you seemed very eager to judge Misfits and Fiends alike. > Well i'm not going to go on about how i came to be interested in the > Misfits or any of that. But as far as what i post being relevant or not, > who are you to be the judge of that? Last i looked the Misfits music does > link to horror and the horror movie genre. Plus if you have not noticed I am no one to judge, nor did I ever claim to be. Mark runs this list. Also, I said nothing about horror movies being irrelevant; they are obviouslu quite relevant, even as dozens of posts contain obviously irrelevant topics. > this paticular topic has be part of the bible for quite some time. Plus > assuming i got the lyrics out of the boxset is pretty sad on your behalf. > The boxset is just a tiny molecule to the collection i have. Plus what Well, that may be true. Fine, I assumed wrong. If you have any alternate lyrics, please post them, as I am very interested in seeing them. (That may sound sarcastic, but I assure you, I am totally sincere). > point were you trying to make when you selected part of my post out of all > and then to go on about how so much of the bible is totally useless. I Whoah -- read my post again. There is absolutely only one reason my diatribe immediately followed your post: your post was last in the Bible. I discussed everything I had intended to discuss that derived directly .from the previous issue (ending with your post), and then proceeded to make generalized comments regarding the current state of the Bible. The way the post was setup, I foresaw a misunderstanding such as this, which is exactly why I began the barrage by saying "in no particular relation to this", or words to that effect. I can't remember what exactly I said, but if you look, it's there. > admit that there are flames that are so uncalled for and some fiends would > rip on others for no apperent reason, but if you out right say something > you know that person is not going to be happy with once they read it you > should expect to be flamed. So am i going to flame you, no. do i have an Actually, as I said in my post, the flames seem to have actually died down lately. It is not in-fighting that makes the Bible worse these days, it is triviality. > opinion of you, yes. you come off sounding like some POMPOUS ASS! so what > if the bible is not 100% Misfits Samhain Danzig etc. if it was it would be > dead, and its not realistic. we have close to 1200 fiends that read this As for my pompousness: touche'. But if I sound like that, it is largely because I write with a relatively formal style and I choose my words carefully. I say this totally unapologetically: if you think I am using "big" words, then you are an idiot. As for the percentage of M/S/D material, obviously within the realm of related bands, there is much to discuss that is not "100%" Misfits. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, you could include comic books,wrestling, horror movies, pornography, punk (choke), martial arts, guitar technology...the list is nearly endless. What is NOT relevant is a 20-issue ongoing discussion about which arena in Philadelphia is the best. That may have had some limited relevance prior to the Misfits' show there, but to have people posting endlessly about it -- it's just not interesting or useful to the many hundreds of fiends that do not live anywhere near Philadelphia. It's reached the point where people giving their opinion of the new album are starting their posts with "sorry to have another review of American Psycho", while bullshit about the Electric Factory's lighting system or whatever -- all that crap goes unapologized. This list is *supposed* to be about people's album reviews, and stuff like that. I also don't see why you're so upset over what I said. I didn't actively censor anyone's messages; I only expressed my own opinion, which I hoped would appeal to their common sense (whatever that means -- so I can't always choose my words with care). > shows hanging out with any member of any of these bands. so what do you > do, not allow the new fiends to post since its not what "you" want to read. > hey it may be pointless to you but obviously it was not pointless to them Did I say ANYTHING about the age or experience of ANYONE? Again you have chastised me for something I never did, as with my supposedly complaining about horror movies. > guess you never knew that most of us are human and are not perfect. There > are some very well known fiends that have the greatest stories to tell, but > their spelling and typing skills really suck. so what, you have to be > pretty dence if you can't figure out what they are trying to say. Fine, maybe I wnt a little overboard with that. But, again, as CG said a while back, it is not typing errors (as when you hit the wrong key, or hit the keys in the wrong order, etc.), but consistent use of the wrong word. There is an enormous difference. It makes the Bible tedious to read, especially when the errors made are so utterly BASIC. Of course I can figure out what they are trying to say, but it often takes second or third glance. And if the content is useless anyway... > far as Green Hell goes, until you have seen the movie i am talking about > and have listened to the song enough, then you can shoot your mouth off. Do you know what I have and have not seen? Do you know how many times I've listened to the song? The answers to these questions are no, I have not seen the movie; secondly, I would estimate that I have listened to the song literally a thousand times, minimum. Either way, more than enough to know that the lyrics in the boxset are, at best, highly questionable -- which is all I said. Did you write the boxset lyrics? No. Was my comment about "Green Hell" even a part of the diatribe in that post? No. As I said above, you failed to notice the division between a lighthearted comment on lyrics, directed to you, and a bitter complaint about the Bible, directed to everyone. How you figured that I was attacking you is beyond me. BTW, Tammy, if I *had* wanted to shoot my mouth off, at ANY time, I would have, regardless of your say-so. I've never met you, but I seriously doubt you could stop me. -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:11:04 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: The only post not talking about American Psycho ... Misfits 101... Record Conventions(NOT MISFITS TOUR DATES, IF MARK DOES NOT HAVE THE DATES NEITHER DO I!) Trading and info... well first, Julian the Wolf Von Frankenstien was not a joke or just a short stretch from something he used for signing stuff way back when. I do have an 8X10 black and white for Doyle on stage and its signed Doyle Von Frankenstien. so you see he just made a slight change, hey it could have been PC Doyle. Record cons May 16 Birmingham, AL (16 - 17). May 17 Hollywood, FL; NYC, NY; Binghamton, NY; Alexandria, VA; May 18 Carmichael, CA; Los Altos Hills, CA; Hermosa Beach, CA; Orlando, FL; Willowbrook, IL; Baltimore, MD; Royal Oak, MI; Edison, NJ; Toledo, OH(2 different shows); Cincinnati - Sharonville, OH; Pittsburgh, PA; Burlington, VT; Seattle, WA. you know the deal, catch me tomorrow and i'll give you the info for whatever Convention you need. i'm hoping to make it to the Hollywood con myself this saturday. Getting ready for the trade, so did anyone have any questions yet about value? i can tell you know this takes time to develop a sense for what is equal to make trades. i still ask questions of other collectors if i'm not sure. we all want to have the upper hand in a trade deal. i live by the coming of each issue of Goldmine, though if you use it for just Misfits stuff your wasting your time and money. $40 a year for a few lucky shots every so often. But it has helped me over the past 10 years as a subscriber. I have to say that best bet is start a journal with the info you get, and if you see ads cut them out. i alway refer back to info i have taken down years a go. Though i never go by just on single source. That is why i keep on saying to check around on Misfits prices. There are several extremes, and there actually is a fair range in the middle. Just cause you want a record very badly you should just plop down the moeny for it. Eerie is a great person, but $2000 is still a lot for any record, ie the Pink vinyl Legacy of Brutality. Just like plopping down $160 or records valued at that for a Horror Business on yellow vinyl. By the way if you fiends have been trying to learn, what is in the $160 value range for the Misfits? Think about it. Plus what could you trade for it if you wanted it. Name another record that is in that range for a straight trade deal? I never said that this would be easy. Obvious this took some hard work on my behalf to get to this point in collecting. Then again, i don't know to many people who can get away with trading a poor condition Beware, and a Die Kruezen Cows and Beer for a multi color Earth AD. The guy thought he had the upper hand on me, though the asking price on the record which was only labeled as a purple vinyl Earth AD was $250. The Beware was $80 and the Cows and Beer was $10 when i bought them. I think slicing off $160 of the asking price is good trading. So where do you go from there. Trade, well not that simple. And where we will continue on Mondays bible. as for Famous Monsters of Filmland, i still have more to go through to find more of the Crimson Ghost. By the way if you want issues of the originals, first be willing to hand off the bucks, the same way you would for Misfits records. also you will find the older issues at most comic book stores and Comic cons. Also the new issues of FM advertise the older issues for sale. well hope everyone has a great weekend. 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Misfits Bible, Number 336 Monday, May 19th 1997 Today's Topics: better late than never. Re: Misfits Bible #335 ANOTHER LONG ONE dumfux Sorry About the New Album SHIT SANDWICH! "woah-oh-oh"s !! BOBBY STEEL'S A CUNT ViNYL AP Now... Evolution Re: SST The Misfits and Chasing Amy update mark is gonna slap your bitch asses Our father who art in heaven.... new--not about american psycho Re: Misfits Bible #335 Hey! American Psycho Canadaian vs USA releases LISTEN UP american psycho American Psycho Heavy Black vinyl hidden song Religious Misfits songs About Psycho Songs -Christian?!?!?!? rotten fruit for fresh vegetables-- my bitch session on the new 'Fits Green Hell on AMC Re: Misfits Bible #335 Re: Misfits Bible #335 Re: Misfits Bible #335 American Psycho Song Titles guitar/request.tab Movies For Fiends AP hidden track!! a few things... G.Danzig signed EAD Gold disc for sale/trade pseudo-sighting American Psyco [Fwd: Misfits poster for sale] Misfits poster for sale Anyone find the heavy black vinyl? american psycho, what does a heshan think? from geffen records tired by now tour dates Has any one ever heard of the words INDEPENDANT THINKING????? Misfits In Philly Re: Misfits Bible #335 boo hiss hiss boo ADAM WEST update! My Rotting Teeth Setting all the bullshit in a row... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: better late than never. From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:22:03 EDT Next TIMES SQUARE SHOWS: May 26th FREE CONCERT at TOMPKINS SQUARE PARK - NYC ! ! ! May 30th RICHMOND, VA 1 am TRADEMARKS 1702 E. Franklin St. >From: Craig Wieczorkiewicz >Subject: Bobby Steele's Delusion of Grandeur > >You've got to be kidding, Bobby. Last time I checked, Metallica was >band that endlessly plugged the unholy hell outta The Misfits, leading >conversion of a whole slew of new fiends, myself included. Not to >were doing, or the fiends that were fiends before Metallica even >think it is fairly well-established that Metallica pretty much >brought about the revolution that led to a more widespread acceptance >great The Misfits were, I'm talking about being the only MISFIT that was doing anything to keep it alive. All through the 80's Jerry and Glenn were either refusing to talk about the FITS, or outright denouncing it. I was the one that you knew you could go to a show and expect to hear MISFITS songs, played by a real MISFIT. Check out the version of BULLET, on LIVE SLAYER; or ATTITUDE on EVENING OF DESIRE (sure, I can't sing near as well as Glenn, but that's another story). As far as METALLICA goes; I've never played down their contribution either. I even thanked Kirk when I met him a few years ago. I believe it was in RIP, where Glenn totally dissed MEtallica and claimed that they had nothing to do with the major interest in the FITS. I've also never had such "delusions of grandeur" as to say that METALLICA and BON JOVI ripped me off - as (ho)MO THE GREAT has said - along with also claiming that I stole THE UNDEAD name from him and that he co-wrote the old MISFITS songs. >(And don't bother to respond with something stupid like "No one asked >you.") Where do you get off thinking that I would make such a remark. I've NEVER been rude to a fiend who hasn't been outright rude to me in the first place. That's more like Jerry's way of avoiding having to tell the truth. Need i remind you of a DOYLE FAN CLUB letter that Jerry once mailed out; berating, rudely, fiends for annoying him with questions regarding where the stuff they had sent him money for was, and why they hadn't recieved it. It's a pretty harsh statement. There's also another letter that I still don't have in my collection; where he tells about how the KRYST Cd was a failure "because YOU, our fans, didn't support us". You won't hear that from Glenn, and you won't hear that from Bobby - because we do appreciate you. I truly believe that Jerry only appreciates your money. P.T. BARNUM was certainly right. >> So, when you complain about the Misfits coming back for money > >But just because it's a current trend in music doesn't mean it's not >open for scrutiny. You're apparently a fairly smart guy. You're not going into this with your eyes closed, and accepting it just because it's called THE MISFITS. Shit. There are some people out there, that I'm convinced would buy anything called THE MISFITS even if it was just ROBO and BRIAN DAMAGE. (as I'm typing this, my monitor just turned blood red - no kidding) Read the bibles from when I came on here last March and you'll get a better understanding of what I'm saying. I AM THE REAL THING. >From: Teevie Alan >Subject: buy max's? > >Anybody in a position to find out how much Caroline would sell the >to the Max's xmas show *undubbed*, were some rich maniac determined to >the recording out? If they get enough annoying mail they might change their mind. But, after refusing to do anything with my LIVE IN BETHLEHEM PA shows, it's apparent that they just don't want to put out anything where they'll have to pay me. >From: BJSchuller@aol.com >Subject: rolling stone review > >Ladies and gentelfiends! > > It seems to me that you guys are placing too much importance on >rolling stone rewiew of American Psycho Seems to me that they loved WALK AMONG US. I seem to recall them saying that Glenn was the best singer in Rockn'roll since Jim Morrison. And that was in '82. Just remember; a review is really just one person's opinion - whether he's a long time fan or not. I got hold of that guy, and he got a lot of flack for panning the record. Not for the reason you'd suspect . . . because he offended an advertiser. You're not allowed to pan a major label record at ROLLING STONE. The labels threaten to withdraw "big bux advertising". >From: Jon Jorden >Subject: Vinyl >Now bobby, where's the Max's record? :) Harass CAROLINE. Harass Jerry - and Harass Glenn. I'm sure if we could take the best of that show, and the best of the two sets that I own - and add the 8mm clip of the Bethlehem show onto one CD - we'd have a killer disc (even if the playing is sloppy as hell in most places). >From: cfarrell@idsi.net >Subject: Bible post >Bobby, did you ever listen to Four Hits From Mars? Not yet. I don't have access to a turntable right now, but thanks for the 45. Jake just sent me a package with a few copies too. Thanks Jake. Can't wait to listen to MONDO ROYALE -but the cover is great. >From: HORRORKID >Subject: AMERICAN PSYCHO!!!!! > >Just thought I would add my 2 cents in on the AP issue. > Now dont get me wrong I like the stuff but should they really be >the misfits?? why not just come up with a new name and put a featuring >doyle and jerry only from the misfits sticke on it like they did with >Kryst.. EXACTLY ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:09:07 -0400 (EDT) >From: Eric J Peterson >Avengers- some one asked about them- they were NOT a new wave band, >one of the most prominate punbk bands in san franciso, they opend for >pisotls at their last show in '78 (along with the nuns) According to people who were on the S F scene back then, they had a song called I'M A LONELY GIRL - which was lifted from them and changed to I'M A LONELY BOY. >From: kent >Subject: 21 Jump St./ ATR > > Sorry I don't have an opinion on the new Misfits CD because, well, I >don't care anymore. Although I do think the whole Static Age + 3 new >re-issue thing seems *very* unusual. I wouldn't be surprised if come >Halloween 'Collection 3' is put out... There's been a lot of talk about this. I can tell you - this "lost track" is legit, unless Jerry or Glenn went a recorded it recently. When I joined the band they gave me a tape of STATIC AGE and IN THE DOORWAYS (or whatever it's called) was not on there, so I believe this is an honest oversight. >From: Blagripper@aol.com >Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:27:28 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: TAMMY LOVES ME > >Yes it is true Tammy, the reason why you cant shut up about me is >are simply in love me, HMMMM. Freudian slip . . . Now we all KNOW why Blag can't shut up about me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 14:13:31 -0400 From: MK Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #335 > From: Inzo > Subject: American Psycho > > Ressurrection is a good song.....but it's about Jesus Christ....not what Actually, I didn't think it was, but who knows. > there; so I can see who's responsible for those lyrics. If Jerry wrote > ressurrection and Michale wrote......Hellnight then Jerry should quit > writing lyrics. I think Chud wrote Hate the living love the dead, good > lyrics meaning that they're like the old songs. Each band member contributed something to the songs. I used to have specific songwriting credits for each song, but that was before they had all really been worked out. However, Hell Night is a different story. It was written by Daniel Rey for the Ramones, and the Misfits took it and changed it a bit. > From Gramps > Our Lord Spoketh: > > 4) Samhain reunion - this is NOT happening. Sorry everyone. Steve Zing > > just emailed me to let me know that he thought it was a hilarious joke. > > By the way, be sure to check out his band Chyna at the Spiral in New York > > City on Wednesday May 14th (tonight!) at 8pm. > > So trusting, is Mark. There are no unreleased Misfits songs...there will be no Samhain > reunion...etc. Come on Mark, don't believe everything you hear. My two cents on the > matter: Samhain has more members than just Steve Zing...if Glenn wants this band back First off, as usual you said some good stuff before this. About this specific matter, a few issues back I listed what the other former Samhain guys were doing. Glenn has said about 10bazillion times that he's moving "forward" with his music, and his feelings for the Misfits reunion would seemingly be reflected in his feelings for a Samhain reunion. Steve Zing and Eerie Von keep in constant contact with Glenn, so I would assume they would know if there was going to be a Samhain reunion. That's all I meant by that. > From: Franz Ardito > Subject: american psycho > > question for mark: i saw the vinyl at the record store, and i've read on the > bible that there is a bonus track on it. is it the same as the ghost track > on the cd ("hell night" i guess) or is it another one? There are 2 bonus tracks available: On the CD: "Hell Night" On the LP: "Dead Kings Rise" > From: Utah Harkerr > Subject: US tour date > I just opened up the Village Voice & saw an ad for the MIsfits > w/Blanks 77 at Irving Plaza in NY on June 20th. Tickets go on sale > 2morrow. I thought there were no confirmed shows for the US.Hey Mark(or > anybody else "on the inside"), you might want to look into this. If this > is a definite date, there must be others planned. Maybe enough to post > here. I talked about this last issue - I said something about not having any dates confirmed by the band. A few have been listed by Ticketmaster but NOT by the band. Here they are: 06/19/97 Trocadero Philadelphia, PA 06/20/97 Irving Plaza New York, NY 06/26/97 Middle East Club Cambridge, MA 06/27/97 Middle East Club Cambridge, MA 06/29/97 Toad's Place New Haven, CT 07/03/97 New 9:30 Club Washington, DC IF anyone knows of anymore, please let me know. > From: RevHugosXe@aol.com > Subject: newsletter > > i actually haven't read a bible in a few weeks,but i read the new one and saw > that everyone was waiting for the newsletter.somewhere on misfits central it > says fiend club packages were sent out around Feb 14.i never got one if they > were.i seem to remember talk of a membership card that would get you > discounts at shows for merchandise,and to pick up club packages at shows > rather than mailing them. Again, this was mentioned in my post last issue. The newsletters were completed in March and supposed to be mailed April 14th. It didn't happen due to some error at the post office. They're on the way out now, a month late. The membership card idea is not happening as of this time. Also, Fiends, some of you are really over-reacting to Brett Fama's post. His suggestions weren't directed at anybody in particular - they were written in a general sense. Don't take them personally, and keep in mind that if you're going to flame him, you should do so in personal email. mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 02:45:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Fama Subject: ANOTHER LONG ONE > From: Neil McAllister > Eerie Von is no "lowlife". And you're a chump for believing what you see > music. You're an asshole if you're going to put someone down based on > hearsay and blatant marketing ploys. I think Mike Inzo was making a small joke, which was actually funny. Lighten up. How ironic that I should say this, and then follow it with the post below... > From: Rich Hartwig > I wanted to thank Tammy (tes777@bridge.net) for her comments in agree with the non-flaming, open-minded ideas/opinions you expressed. > It also helped me to create this first posting. Again, thanks. Non-flaming. Non-flaming. That is pretty interesting. Tammy calls me a pompous ass, accuses me of flaming her (which I didn't), says/implies that I want to censor new subscribers, and horror movies and other such topics from the Bible (which I don't), and tells me "not to shoot my mouth off" about "Green Hell" (which I didn't). But of course, she started her post off by pointing out how she would mercifully spare me her flaming wrath, (of course, my heart almost stopped until she put me at ease) so therefore, despite everything she said, her post is not a flame. Okay, fine. This is not a flame: Mark Kennedy, you are the world's biggest fucking loser, you probably molest children and animals, and your posts are stupid. And just be glad I didn't flame you. > From: Grandpa Atomic > Everyone can guess by the writing caliber of this fool's original message is that he's > just another kid trying to prove himself. Really? Why is that, because I don't make idiotic errors? Tell me, how old do you think I am? I have posted to this list for a couple hundred issues. I think I have helped Mark a fair bit with his WWW page, and I talk with him in personal emails. I seriously don't believe I have ever "flamed" anyone (except in retaliation), and in my recent post, I was only expressing distaste with much of the current material on the Bible. Others have done that before, and in much stronger terms than I did. Mark has never complained about any of my messages, nor did anyone complain about my "rant" two issues ago -- that is, no one complained until Tammy FLAMED me -- quite unjustifiably -- last issue. Mark, if *you* have a problem with anything I say, by all means, let me know. As for certain others... If there is anyone who feels the need to prove herself, it is Tammy. Am I wrong? If she is not obsessed by what the rest of the subscribers think of her, then why does she go out of her way to say she is not flaming me? (When in fact she did flame me; that reply of hers was as close to a "flame" as you get). Tammy, if what I said above offends you, then so be it; you gave your opinion of me in Bible #334 ("sounds like a pompous ass"), so don't cry if you can't take it yourself. You have wrongly accused me, on more than one occasion, of flaming you. Many other times, you have reacted irrationally and harshly to some of my messages: if you recall, I said to you several times in the past not to take everything so seriously. Believe me, Tammy, if I had wished to flame you, or anyone else, it would have been much more explicit. There would be no doubt whatsoever that I was whipping your ass. > From: Daniel Herrmann > Subject: just a suggestion > I was more than happy to learn that. I mean, shit, I didn't know that. > Her post was clearly made to help me out, not an attack by any means. So > where you get off attacking her is beyond me. Thanks Tammy. See my message last issue. You know, the one in which I had to waste about 60 000 lines of Bible space explaining my previous message, because Tammy (and obviously you as well) completely misunderstood it. Tammy and "Green Hell" had absolutely NOTHING to do with my complaints. Maybe if I ask one of my 8 or 9 year-old cousins to write my messages, people like you will understand them. > BTW - You're the same Brett that ironically shit on yourself trying to > correct grammar a few months ago, huh? Read #292 to refresh your memory. And you are the same imbecile who flamed me in that issue for making a **typing** error (different than a spelling error, as the Crimson Ghost taught you --or I guess I should say, *tried* to teach you, as you obviously learned nothing from him). BTW, did you have to look through back issues to find the correct one, or did you have a copy of it framed on your wall? I bet your "triumph" over me that issue was such a source of pride that you'll take it to your deathbed. "Just a suggestion" Tim, or Daniel, or whatever you call yourself: stay the fuck away from southern Ontario if you value the use of your legs, you stupid bloody idiot. You're obviously a moron, so you'll probably have to look on a map to find the place. It's in Canada. You know, that vast expanse of land to the north of the USA. Oh, BTW, north is usually the "up" direction on a map. Anyway, that's where I live, and if you get within a mile of me, I'm gonna knock you out. And don't even think of emailing me personally like you did last time; keep all of your whining, juvenile comments to the Bible, where I can respond or ignore them at my own leisure. THAT is a flame, Tammy. And that is also all I have to say on this topic. I guess I shouldn't have even made those complaints about the Bible, for three reasons: 1. they would not accomplish anything anyway, despite the truth and rationality of what I said. 2. people misunderstood them and put words in my mouth, then attacked me based on those words. 3. because of #2, I was forced to waste much more room on the Bible by explaining and defending myself. So...I am done with this. If you disagree with what I originally said, even after I elaborated and clarified everything in single-syllable words last issue -- fine, I don't even care anymore. I will just summarize my repies: Grandpa Atomic: Whatever...you don't know me, so call me whatever you want -- just realize that you do so in ignorance. I hope for your sake you never get the chance to say it to my face. Tim/Daniel Hermann: Based on my previous experience with you, I think I know what you're thinking. Don't even bother. Instead, do us both a favour and go play in traffic. Tammy: I've done all the explaining I'm going to do. If you didn't get it the first two times, you never will, so let's just leave it at that. I never had a quarrel with you to begin with, regardless of what you erroneously came to believe. To the rest of the Bible subscribers (those few of you who even paid attention to this thread, or cared about it): I still don't think you can deny anything that I said. I am somehow on the verge of apologizing nonetheless, but then I think of why I made my first post on this subject. So I will apologize to some of you, not all of you. I think it is ironic that most of my LONG posts are the secondary ones that clarify all the garbage interpretations of the shorter, initial ones. Why is this? It was right there all along... I don't know. But that's it. -B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 14:24:21 +0100 From: Jake Starr Subject: dumfux < Subject: Sorry About the New Album Down with the new album down i say burn it, ban it, get danzig back or ill kill Doyle Von Dumfuckstein...>> now THIS is genius = Doyle Von Dumfuckstein. nuff said. < Subject: SHIT SANDWICH! The review of American Psycho in Rolling Stone should have been merely a two word review reading: SHIT SANDWICH!>> more genius! david, is your real last name "st. hubbins?" -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * e-mail: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: "Bobley, Brett" Subject: "woah-oh-oh"s !! Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 14:41:33 -0400 I noticed a number of fiends in the last Bible commenting on the Misfits trademark "woah-oh-oh"s. Well, I'd like to take this time to make a non-Misfits plug: there is another band almost as well known for their "woah-oh-oh"s and that is Chicago's Naked Raygun. They released their first record back in 1982. Raygun had an incredible piledriver sound. Very much the metallic, white-noise guitar sound that other Chicago 80's punk bands like Effigies and Big Black shared. But they grafted it onto these great Buzzcocks/Misfits melodic punk tunes. I strongly recommend you check them out. My favorite albums are ALL RISE and THROB THROB. This web site has more info: http://tezcat.com/~gdd/raygun.html ------------------------------ From: Bob Dansby Subject: BOBBY STEEL'S A CUNT Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:06:40 -0400 AMERICAN PSYCHO RULES, GLENN PURIST GO TO HELL. BOBBY STEELE IS, AS GLENN SAID, IS AN ASSHOLE FUCKING CUNT. ANY BODY EVERY HERE THE BOOBY STEELE VERSION OF TEENAGERS FROM MARS??I DID. I WENT LIKE THIS""BOBBY STEELE IS AN ASSHOLE FUCKING CUNT,JUST A LITTLE FUCKING CUNT"" IS QUOTE THEEM. ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:38:52, -0500 Subject: ViNYL Just went to the Princeton Record Exchange in Princeton, NJ. I picked up the limited edition Heavy Vinyl edition of American Psycho for $10. They had 3 or 4 copies left. Dead Kings Rise isn't that good of a song. The huge picture of Doyle is worth it though. Also picked up vinyl for Earth AD. Just the regular old 3rd press. Also found a copy of the Undead's Live Slayer. It is a really cool purple vinyl. That was $6. .From Danzig, I got Lucifuge on vinyl. Also got the Danzig Sacrifice remixes 12". If anyone is ever in the area, check the Princeton Record Exchange out. They have lots of stuff. There were boxes of 7" but I didn't really go through them too much. ...Marino ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:11:53 -0400 From: "J." Okay, I can understand (not really) so I can respect the fact that someone might actually like the new album, but how can you continue breathing after saying that Micheal Graves doesn't sound like anyone? Come on! Throughout the album, I can hear a lot of familiar voices; Dave Mustaine, Peter Steele (type O negative), Danzig (he even yells like him, a lot), and a few others I've already forgotten. His voice has very little originality. As for the album, it is likeable if you can get past the songs. Don't Open Till Doomsday sounds like a Fat Wreck Chords band. Chrimson Ghost.....give me a break. I was embarassed when I heard it. Ironic that one of the few good songs, hellnight, is a hidden track. So I actually have to listen to the last song just to get to it. This album is terrible, yet I do find it catchy. The lyrics suck, so I just block them out and pretend they're a whole lot of mumbling. It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't understandable but they are damn clear. "I traded in my bible for a little black cat"!!"!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? What's that shit. I nearly died. That is the worst lyric I have ever heard. Worse than Silver Chair, and though they can play, those Aussie kids couldn't write lyrics to save their lives. And the picture/poster!!!! Oh my god. That is the worst shit I've ever seen. I can't wait to hear this album on the radio. I just hope I don't drive off the road laughing. Cheers J. ------------------------------ From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Date: 16 May 97 15:13:08 EDT Subject: AP Now... Neil McAllister wrote "I will say another thing, though: not one thing about it even REMINDS me of the Misfits." You got that right. Though I enjoy listening to the album, and believe there are some cool catchy songs, this album in no way has ties to the past ... and it can't because the songwriter from the past isnt on this album.. It takes way more than a skull on the cover, some whoah -oh ohs and doom and gloom lyrics to make a Misfits song. If I heard this album, and didnt know that it contained two ex-Misfits, I would never think "Hey, these guys sound alot like the Misfits". Instead, I'd say, as I do now, "these guys sound a little like Judas Priest, Metallica and Therapy rolled into one". you continue with "When I saw the NewFits live last year it struck me that their new guitar sound does NOTHING good for the Misfits' >songs, and I feel that way even more now since none of the new songs even harks back to the old. Also, when you take the CD out of >the jewel case, you see behind it a picture of Doyle playing his guitar with a bunch of hands reaching up and giving him "Devil sign". >Doyle gets top billing on the back as well, which seems to indicate they're trying to position him as some kind of "guitar god" for the >metal kids, which he clearly ain't." Again, great point. Doyle, while moving up miles in the proficiency club of guitar playing (are those arpeggios in Mars Attacks? Does he think he is KK Downing?), needs to learn to 1.) GET HIS DAMN PALM OFF THE STRINGS EVERY NOW AND THEN!!!!. Those palm muted riffs ala Hetfield and countless others have to go!! I mean, there is a time and place for that style of playing, but song after song after song makes you yearn for an open and ringing chord ala Last Caress. 2. HE NEEDS A NEW TONE!! The distortion is way to cheesy, sounds like one of those old DOD American Metal distortion pedals that sound like you are playing through a garbage can. Thats why solid state guitar amps and effects blow, the tone sounds like shit. Give that man an old Marshall or Orange head, and turn the gain up! Mike Inzo said "What I didn't like is so much talk about God in the lyrics. I wouldn't >have a problem with this if the lyric were somewhere else. Ressurrection is a good song.....but it's about Jesus Christ....not >what the Misfits are about. Kryst the conqeror was anti misfits and anti glenn, that stuff belongs there. I think, Speak of the >devil is also maybe religious. I'm like soooooo sure, they're gonna play ressurrection then play an old Glenn anti-god one. Yea, I hear ya. There is nothing worse than a dopey song about Satan, except for dopey songs about god and Jesus. While the Misfits were never a "satan" band, they had plenty of evil references in their songs. Does Jerry think he is gonna be the next bass player in Stryper? Are we to expect the next album to have songs called "Mother Theresa, Fearless Vampire Killer" or "The Pope vs the Mole People?" ... puhleeze.... One very cool lyric though .. "Death holds you in it's arms, and kisses you goodnight" .... I love that one from the Haunting! I though the production was way too clean. Misfits songs had the tradition of sound raw, underproduced and driving. This album sounds way over done. I do like to listen to it, but it aint the Misfits. Some Samhain reunion news .. Mark was wrong, there will be a reunion, its gonna be me, Packy Vomit and Mike Otrock. Though none of us were in Samhain, we are going to take the name and start playing the songs and go on tour and release some albums. We figure, everyone else is doing it, why cant we? Hey "hate breader " please put some sort of punctuation in those sentences .. your parents will love ya for it. RevHugosXe@aol.com said "on my freinds block theres one of those centuries old tiny graveyards with about 7 graves,and >we are considering taking the risk of a getting caught as opposed to showing real loyalty and grave robbing for the misfits If anyone ever fucked with the graves of any of my relatives, i'd hunt them down and shoot them myself! Have some goddamn respect! Jerry Only coudln't give a flying fuck about the skulls your send him ... think before you act. Persephone said " Last night i interviewed GWAR for my website, got stoned in the bus with Slymenstra Hymen" Wow, you smoke pot? You are too cool. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:48:35 -0400 From: William Bartilson Jr Subject: Evolution Ok, to all you twits who are trashing the Misfits for changing trheir sound, SO WHAT??!!! Does Danzig 5 sound like Danzig 1? No. Danzig 5 sux! Danzig one was (is) great. Glenn has evolved in to a lower grade of songwritter, in my opinion. Does Earth A.D. sound like Static Age, or for that matter Walk Amoung us? Hell no! This album contains material written some 13-15 years AFTER the last Misfits album. (New material of course) Credit Jerry, and Doyle Von Whatever for musical evolution and growth. They still kick ass, but now they can play much better. Why would you force someone to remain stagnant? Are they not allowed to grow? Does being a fiend give us special privlages to keep our "heros" static? No. Face it, we all love to talk about "We Are 138", but that and "RATT FINK" have to be some of the stupidest lyrics ever written. All of EAD is indecipherable. If you played WAU and EAD for someone who had never heard of the 'Fits, or those albums before, they would never guess they were the same band. However, if you played American Psycho and WAU for that same person, it's MUCH more likely that a connection would be made between the albums. There is even a similarity between AP and EAD, although none of the songs on AP are quite as thrashy as EAD. I'm sorry that some people on here can't accept the fact that 15 years have gone by since Glenn was in the band, times change, people change, things grow. It's a fact of life. AP is a refreashing change from the standard crap out there. I support your right to disagree with me, but I felt I had to express my point of view. As for the song "Shining", yes it is about "Poltergeist", but the psychic said that Carol Ann's life force was a beacon shining in the dark for the spirits in the house. Thus the title of the song. Takes a little thought, but thinking is always better than following blindly. :) Stay Sick! Wolfsblood ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Enter of your own free will. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:30:38 -0400 From: "forever marlena's guy" Subject: Re: SST As far as I know, Greg Ginn still owns and runs it. Chuck Dukowski is still part of the front office there even though he no longer owns any part of it. forever marlena's guy mailto:outsideredge@crazysexycool.com OR mailto:forevermarlenasguy@thegym.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the FMG web network: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Outsider Edge Wrestling Newsletter Homepage http://www.thegym.net/outsideredge subscribe to the Outsider Edge at outsideredge@thegym.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ forever marlena's guy's Marlena page http://www.thegym.net/forevermarlenasguy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ fmg's bio page (under his old handle Righteous Black Duck): http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/i/g/righteousblackduck.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Don't go chasing waterfalls, please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to." - TLC "Revisions of history fare well in some company, But don't shove that bullshit down my throat" - Cyndi Lauper "All the critics, you can hang them. I'll hold the rope." - Public Enemy ------------------------------ From: DamagedInc@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 18:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Misfits and Chasing Amy update I talked to Scott Mosier via E-Mail and asked about how The Misfits Collection II was all over the place in the music store scene. If you don't know who he is, he's the producer for Clerks, Mallrats, and Chasing Amy and is Willam Black (AKA: Snowball) in Clerks and Mr. Sphening's assistant in Mallrats. Anyways he says that the production design guy came up with the idea and just stuck all those Collection II CD's everywhere. He also said that THe Misfits rule in a previous mailing. Hey! He's from New Jersey! Tom AKA:DamagedInc@aol.com formerly War Pigz "Following an instinct not a trend, going against the grain until the end." -Metallica, Damage Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:40:39 -0500 From: billy vile Subject: mark is gonna slap your bitch asses to the guy who bitched at me because i said danzigs first album got one star... what the hell am i thinking of? one of them got one star... i though it was III that got the 3 1/2... anyway what does it matter... i'll just kill myself and save veryone the trouble. carve some s.o.d. lyrics on my tombstone. speaking of s.o.d., that's what american psycho reminds me of. i tried to pin it down: kinda thrashy, but punky, not quite anthrax, but not quite suicidal tendencies first album. american psycho is metalish by accident, simply because earth a.d. inspired that "thrash" sound. but the best part of this cd is that it sounds like the cast of rocky horror singing over s.o.d. and i mean it. any misfits song i that doesn't make me laugh isn't worth a crap. by the way, if you haven't gotten 4 Hits From Mars yet, you should. is it better than violent world? in my opinion, no, but only because it isn't as long. but the songs are good, and it's cheap. more power to jake starr and everything he may stick his finger in, even if it is his ass. by the way fiendies and fiendettes: pick up an issue of filmafax. you'll find an order form for Braineaters and AstroZombies T-shirts. no shit. also by the way: you all better watch your whiny asses. mark called me up the other day (i was on the other line with steve zing and ron jeremy, but i said, what the hell, it's mark....) and said he was getting ready to go postal on all of you. don't say i didn't warn you. and finally: horror, punk, skinheads all that shit, i can understand being on the bible. but trying to sell sex? i don't know. seems wrong somehow. like fishing in a hatch factory. billy (whoa-whoa-whoa.. ha ha ha) vile. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:20:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Woh-Oh! Here comes the dead Subject: Our father who art in heaven.... >Ressurrection is a good song.....but it's about Jesus Christ....not what I don't disagree with you, but I also think that there is more to it then that. It sounds to me that whoever wrote it, I'm guessing jerry, is using jesus as a metaphor for themself. They are comparing the way they are treated, etc to jesus. I don't think it's supposted to be a song about the ressurection of jesus told from the first person. Jerry's God complex isn't quite that bad. Yet. About American Psycho: blah blah blah, you fill in the blanks. No one's going to listen to you cause there was so many reviews of it, so why even bother to post another one? The only one that I even looked twice at was the one that was like "if you like this you will like american psycho". I don't know who it was who wrote that, but keep rockin' to whoever it was. Leah (why yes my major is english) ps---no one wants my picture of Michale? E-mail me if you are interested, it's FREE!! ------------------------------ From: Matt Richards Subject: new--not about american psycho Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 18:49:30 PDT I was on the bible a year ago but never posted, then my e-mail acct. expired yadda, yadda, yadda-- it's great to be back among fiends! if you can stand it, here's my bio: name: Matt Richards age: 23 school: yes.... English Literature/ Pre-Law at University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign other bands I listen to: Sick of it All, Pennywise, Civ, Snapcase, Path of Resistance (E.Crisis sux, however), Rancid, Offspring, GBH,Gorilla Biscuits, Shelter, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, 10K Maniacs, Leonard Cohen, Loreena Mckennit, Enya what got me into the fits: heard WAU at a friends house in 88, took it home, and had all the lp's within a month, starting collecting boots the next month-- I don't collect anymore, though other interests: skateboarding sometimes, playing guitar and bass, driving my 85 SAAB 900 TURBO, Heineken, reading, the net, playing with my eight month old daughter (she learned to stand alone just today!!)drinking Merlot with my gorgeous wife, buying CD's compulsively, painting. last good books I read: Emotional IQ (author?), Dead City (shane stevens, inspired lexus machine in steven king's THE DARK HALF) Irish Poetry Now, Gabriel Fitzmaurice ed., Salinger and the Critics I will hold off my judgement of American Psycho until later. I will say that Violent World is one hell of a CD and all the people who ragged on it didn't know what they were talking about. see ya in the pit -- (RANCID) LYCANTHRO13 --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Rojo Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #335 Dear fiends, Hihowareya, Good. Well It's time to say a few things. For those of you who think the misfits suck or the new album sucks or whatever, I have two words: FUCK OFF. The reason I say this is because the new misfits aren't the old misfits. The new stuff is incredible. Period. The old stuff is incredible. Period. Why compare Michale's voice to Glenn's? They are both very good. I think Mikey's vocals have a haunting quality to them. The music is catchy, or else most of us wouldn't be hummimg the shit all day long. I sing the lyrics to "day of the dead" pretty much nonstop. I can't get it out of my head. So I am truly sorry that some don't like the new stuff. It is a shame, because the misfits are truly ahead of their time. I think that I have a great idea. Why don't we ask Tammy to make a top 10 list of our favorite misfits tunes like she did for the getting to know you stuff. Each fiend can post their top 10 and then they would be compiled into a list that would be posted later. (We can make the list to just show the top ten songs period, or show everyone's top 10. I think we should just post the top ten period.)We can give points to the songs like this: Ten for 1 nine for 2 eight for 3 and so on. Or something like that. Then we can see just how the new songs hold up. I bet a lot of people will be suprised at how many new songs are on it. Just an idea. Anyway, the misfits are back and for those who can't accept it, well, I will be chewing on your flesh later! HA HA HA Fiends kick ass! ALL of us. (even the ones that don't like AP) See ya, Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:06:38 -0500 From: "Ian D. Miller" Subject: Hey! HEY!!! I'm in a small punk band in Richmond, Va., named Fallout. I am helping to organize a massive punk rock concert this summer (July 19). Right now I'm signing bands up to play and gathering people to help. If you're interested or anyone you know would like to help out in any way, please let me know ASAP. Any contacts, info, or commitments you can make or tell me of right now would be very helpful. The PunkFest '97 is a show sponsored by Silus Jones Productions, a non-profit organization dedicated to reviving the punk scene. Please help us out. =^) Any demos you can have or can get, please send them to Ian D. Miller c/o Silus Jones Production 9329 Plymouth Pl. Mechanicsville, Va. 23116 Check out the SJP web site for more info at: http://www.gsgis.k12.va.us/silusjones Thankz, -Ian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 00:30:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Guero666 Subject: American Psycho Canadaian vs USA releases The US release of the new album has a "poster" of the crimson chost, at least the one I own does. The Candian one I saw had a poster of a band shot in it. I thought this was strange, and a perhaps a lame marketing ploy to sell 2 copies to each "true" fan. Guero666 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 23:48:13 -0500 From: Gregg Subject: LISTEN UP Dear -LISTEN UP, WHY DOES IT MAKE YOU MAD TO SEE A 12 YEAR OLD SUPPORTING THE MISFITS!!!!!!I AM TWELVE YEARS OLD AND I HAVE BEEN A FEIND SINCE THIRD GRADE AND YOU PROBABLY THINK THAT ALL TWELVE YEAR OLDS EITHER LIKE RAP OR BUSH AND 311 BUT NOT ME!!! YOU SHOULD BE GLAD THAT THERE ARE YOUNG FEINDS OUT THERE TO LET THE LEGACY LIVE ON WHEN YOU GUYS ARE GONE!!!!!! SO HEY, IF EVER SEE KID SPORTING A DEVILOCK AND A FIT'S SHIRT DON'T GET MAD BE HAPPY. I SICK OF PUNKS LIKE YOU ON THE BIBLE-I THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT THE FIT'S-NOT RAGGING ON YOUNG FANS!!!!!!!!! LET THE DAY BEGIN,LET THE HORROR START-SAMHAIN THE MAGGOTS ARE FALLING LIKE RAIN-GWAR WE WANT THE AIRWAVES"THATS RIGHT THATS RIGHT"-RAMONES I KNOW A PLACE FILLED WITH LIES AND HAPPINES, BUT THIS PLACE IS TO FAMILAIR WITH ME-DOMESTIC DISPUTE P.S.-ARE THERE ANY FLORIDA FEINDS OUT THERE FROM THE ST.PETE AREA WHO HAVE EVER HEARD OF DOMESTIC DISPUTE-IF SO, WERE YOU IN SCATTER OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE I COULD CONTACT THEM-IF YOU ARE IN SCATTER REMEMBER ME, THE YOUNG DRUMMER AND WE DEDICATED ATTITUDE TO YOUR BAND????? TILL NEXT TIME, BRIAN "YOUNG BUT COOLFAN." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 01:25:06 +0000 From: james e lunn Subject: american psycho THIS IS THE BEST CD OF THE FUCKING DECADE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU NEVER WERE A REAL FIEND YOU PEOPLE WOULD BITCH ABOUT HOW THEY TRIED TOO HARD IF IT SOUNDED EXACTLY LIKE THE OLD STUFF SO SHUT THE FUCK UP HUGO D FIEND cylu@sunline.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 10:08:28 +0200 From: Pontus Carlsson Subject: American Psycho Heavy Black vinyl Hello! Im lookin for someone who I can buy the AP heavy black vinyl from.I live in Sweden and I cant to find it here. If you can buy one for me,e-mail me with the price please. Thanks! Pontus Carlsson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 12:50:03 -0700 From: Mark Pennington Subject: hidden song >At the end of the CD there is a couple of minutes of nothing then a >song >comes in?? Bonus Track!! yeah, it's a bonus track, i think it's called Hell Night. i think the LP and Cassette have a different one, if anyone has these on mp3, can you please e-mail it to me, thank you ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:09:35 -0400 From: William Bartilson Jr Subject: Religious Misfits songs On Friday Inzo wrote: >What I didn't like is so much talk about God in the lyrics. I wouldn't >have a problem with this if the lyric were somewhere else. > I only noticed two songs that could be "religious". Ressurection, and Speak of the Devil. >Ressurrection is a good song.....but it's about Jesus Christ....not what >the Misfits are about. Well I have to agree with this one. It is about Jesus, and doesn't really seem to fit the pattern of typical "Misfits songs", but as I mentioned in my last post, people change. I hope they don't turn into Stryper, but one of the things that turned me off of Danzig's new stuff (besides hating the music on the new album) was the increasingly dark lyrics. >I think, Speak of the devil is also >maybe religious. Nope. Not a chance. Perhaps the reason you thought it was is the line: "Some call me the son of the morning; God knows I'm the Angel of Light". The Angel of Light is Lucifer. He was God's original "No.1 Angel", His right hand man. The rest of the song bears this out as well. "I drink my water from a wolf's footprint; my souls redemptive work of Christ", seems to me to be about the Angel of Light and Christ working at cross purposes. (no pun intended, ugh) I certainly hope this doesn't come off as a flame Inzo, since it is only meant as my impression of the songs. :) Stay Sick!! Wolfsblood. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Enter of your own free will. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:15:07 -0500 From: Eric Koeppen Subject: About Psycho Songs -Christian?!?!?!? This is directed to the wannabe that was slamming Resurrection for being about Christ: what part of the song is about Christ? The reference "nail me on the cross" was also used in the Crow by J. O'Barr. Was that about Christ? You are dense, after you get done slamming the NewFits for not being able to write songs that require any thought, you go ahead and take a lyric at face value... BTW for the resto fo you, "Angel of Light" in Speak of the Devil is obvious a reference to him being Satan, not some Christian message...Drinking from a "Wolf's footprint", don't kinda consider himself the killerwolf? Don't this mean he takes inspiration from Glenn? READ THE LYRICS! THEY'RE ON THE HOMEPAGE!!!!!! you can avoid this poor fool's mistake and make sure you know what you're talking about before you waste Bible space and basically just tick me off. Sorry, i hate flames, but it's soooo popular and "hardcore" and purist to make fun of the new 'fits for being somehow less than Glenn'fits; try and think for yourself for once and maybe give 'em a chance... Mark sorry for the post, I know informational stuff is preffered. Oh Mark, BTW, what was your personal opinion of the new stuff? Laterz, Eric ------------------------------ From: Matt Richards Subject: rotten fruit for fresh vegetables-- my bitch session on the new 'Fits Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:34:55 PDT we went from "demon I am and face I peel" to "I take my cyclotrode right out of it's case?"!!!!!! Anybody who thinks these new Lyrics are as good as the old ones needs a little education. I recommend Eng 101 or British Lit. Anyone who thinks these lyrics are even passing should go back to listening to Ugly Kid Joe-- The lyrics on American Psycho are pathetic, half-assed drivel with no creative talent. I was willing to let bygones be bygones, who needs an asshole like GD in the band right? Well, now I see where ole GD got his pomposity, his arrogance, and his unwavering belief that he knew what he was doing and no one else did. anyone who has studied even a little poetry or literature ought to be able to see that Glenn was way above the heads in his day (the use of words like 'somnambulace' always left headbangers scratching their heads) how many of you knew what the pulmonary was when you first heard VAMPIRA? After I started with my major courses (British Modern Lit) I went back and re-read all of GD's lyrics and started STUDYING them, looking for the key to Danzig's style, for what made him so damn different and what I found is perhaps stating the obvious but DANZIG'S method of presenting horror is very abstract and in the majority of cases, the evil is implied not described, with a few exceptions. Consider: "With both eyes open, I wait up for the kill, feel the evil, feel the heat as I blast you open." That my friends, is poetry. And to pull it off and pull it off WELL is not easy. If the new Misfits were to use this idea for lyrics, it would probably go in this direction: "There's a bad guy Sitting up late at night,in a dark room with a gun, waiting for the person he's going to kill, he feels so evil inside, Now they're here and he's shooting them and it hurts them really bad." New Misfits lyrics merely describe-- tell a cute little story with dark words-- DANZIG PAINTED A PICTURE WITH ABSTRACT IMAGES AND (a lot bigger and better)WORDS THAT LET YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE REAL HORROR WAS. And most importantly-- look at this one-- WHEN DANZIG WRITES, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS FIRST PERSON-- DANZIG TAKES US INSIDE THE HEAD OF THE MONSTERS HE WRITES ABOUT. HE-- AND WE-- BECOME THE MONSTERS FOR A MOMENT AND SEE THROUGH THEIR EYES. Plain and simple Danzig was an artist and the 'fits were not. -- but here's another problem with the New Misfits lyrics-- they can't even get the rythm right half the time. The lyrics don't flow with the music-- poor Mike has to speed up some of the words (I'm thinking specifically of the "I hate People" line in the title song) to get them out before they rip into the chorus. In several places on the album this happens. What this shows is a distinct ignorance (not stupid ignorance, just careless ignorance)of how a song should be written-- how the words and music are woven together to form a song. This is not something that can be passed off as though there was a politically correct way of doing it, and the rebel punk way. There is a correct way to write music and that correct way is pleasing to the human ear in all possible cultures. I'm not talking about style of music (punk, folk, techno, etc)I'm talking about melody, harmony, and rythm. Someone singing along with a drum machine can be music if it follows the beat-- someone singing rock a bye baby to a polka beat is not the cadence of the lyrics will not follow the random blows of hammers and squeal of drills- blah blah-- I'm starting to ramble. I don't think a lot of you realize that what made the Misfits so great and made you like them so much, had a lot to do with the songcrafting and lyrics that ole asshole did for them. These are very subtle things that are hardly noticeable when they are present, but when they are absent, you miss them a lot.Anyone who has taken any music classes or lit classes beyond high school ought to know what I'm talking about. Why do you think it's possible for people like that super-producer Butch Vig to put together a band that has a whole string of hits? Because there are certain elements in music that when put together in a song are naturally pleasing and likeable and people like him know what they are. Vig would have been just as successful even if it was a different style of music that was popular. Anyway, Im getting off course. About the artwork on the cover of the album-- LOUSY-- IT'S NOT MISFITS STYLE. Alright, it's not GD's style. GD took old ideas, and re-worked them into something new-- he used the old Monsters of Filmland shit and comics and movies and twisted them a little- Made it an original. That's a lot different from directly copying something. Glen was much more creative when it came to finding ideas or images that represented the misfits. His stuff was a lot more subtle. That's what made the old Misfits great. FINAL BUT MOST IMPORTANT BITCH: This is the most important thing to consider about the old vs. new fits. Remember the excitement of tracking down all the Misfits influences? Finding out where the Crimson Ghost logo really came from, and what 'Samhain'was, and where the monsters on the cover for WAU came from, and what PLAN 9 meant and words like DEVILOCK, and the capt. harlock skull etc.-- DANZIG didn't make these up, but he took them and made them great. He introduced a lot of us to new things through his work with the Misfits. I am not saying he's a good person, just that he is an intelligent creative force that far outshines most of the performers in the genre's he's been involved with. The big question is: DO YOU THINK JERRY AND DOYLE AND THE REST CAN DELIVER THIS CREATIVITY AS WELL? WHAT NEW AND EXCITING THINGS THAT YOU WERE UNFAMILIAR WITH DID YOU COME ACROSS IN AMERICAN PSYCHO? ANY NEW SKULL DESIGNS? NEW WORDS? REFERENCES TO MOVIES OR COMICS YOU'D NEVER HEARD OF? I'll answer for myself-- NOT ONE. There's nothing FRESH about American Psycho-- nothing really new.I'll listen to it-- I don't hate it-- some of it is great for moshing around and sing-along's-- I'll definitely see them live and have a blast. But there is a definite breakdown in the things that made the misfits so great before and there is never going to be a reviewer who says in ten years that American Psycho was way ahead of it's time-- It's a copy of something that was way ahead of it's time. I don't hate the new Misfits and I don't love Glen, I think Glen is an ass-- but I'd go to him for a tattoo idea before I'd go to Jerry and Doyle. ready for the flames:-> LYCANTHRO13 --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 12:34:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: Green Hell on AMC "Green Hell" is on AMC on Wednesday, May 21st at 12 pm Eastern Time. Green Hell stars Vincent Price and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. An archaeology crew brave the South American jungles for Incan treasure. It also features George Sanders and Alan Hale (1:27) about 2 hours with commercials. The Fly is also on later that night at 6:15 pm (ET) and 12:15 am. (ET) -Tim ------------------------------ From: Voogy@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 16:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #335 First of let me say I loved the new Misfits album. It was there first album since 1983 and the guy who writes all the songs was't in it. However, even though this album was more metal then punk I still think they keeped the Misfits sound. I am pissed at the fact that the album wasn' t with the new realease section like Counting Crows. I will say I like old misfits better then new. However I like new Misfits better then old Danzig. A Misfits sighting (I created) I did a cartoon for the school news paper called Peter & Dieter (in Peter & Dieter meets the night teaher) well Dieter has a Misfits t -shirt on. If you'd like a copy E-mail me with your address and I'll mail you one. Voogy. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 16:05:09 +0000 From: scooter Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #335 Inzo wrote: >Ressurrection is a good song.....but it's about Jesus Christ Actually... I got the impression it's about Jerry and his involuntary 13-year hiatus ------------------------------ From: "PSYCO78" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 19:35:47 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #335 After reading the last issue of the bible there are a few things I feel I have to get off of my back. First of all, I don't think the song Resurrection is about Jesus. It's about the rebirth of the Misfits the way I see it. Second of all, I want to add that I think the new album is great. Everyone I know thinks it's cool except for my brother, who upon hearing it for the first time (without being told who it was) said "I hate the fuckin Misfits". So that goes to show that it does sound like the Misfits not some pale immitation. The only differance I see now is that the Jerry and Doyle are better musicians and the lyrics seem to be telling a story in many of the songs. This is not that bad of a thing. I find myself singing along to almost every song, especially "Resurrection", "This Island Earth", "The Haunting", "Day of the Dead" and "Dont Open Til Doomsday". These songs are as catchy and as good as the stuff on Walk Amongs Us. The third thing I wanted to add was that I am sick and fucking tired of all these assholes getting on the Bible and wasting space bitching about how bad the album is. Im so tired of you "punker than fuck" people bitching. Lighten the hell up. I mean, it's obvious by the way you guys are acting that you would never be happy even if the album was the greatest fucking thing since the blowjob. Ill bet money that you assholes wouldn't be happy if Jerry invented a fucking time machine and went back to 1982 and drafted a young Glenn Danzig as the new singer. Shut the hell up and if you dont like the new album then don't fuckin buy it. Just quit bitching. The person Im really sick of hearing from is GRAMPS. Is is me, or is everyone sick of this jerk comming on and dropping the names of every single fucking "real" punk band he has stashed away on some stuid 7" somewhere? I dont give a shit if you have a large musical library pal, I really dont. What are you trying to do? Show us all that you are a real punk and an expert in what is cool and what is not? Shit, you must have dropped the names of about 400 fucking bands in three or four of the posts you have made. Gimmie a break. Quit judging the new record by comparing it to your god like record collection. It's a good record and it stands alone. If it were not the Misfits would you like it. What if it were the new Balzac or whatever the hell their name is record? Would you shoot your load over it then? Ill bet you would. Now if you want you can throw some insult back at me or make fun of my grammer or spelling or something like that because I really dont care. Just quit being a "PUNK" and decide if something is good or not by just fucking listening to it without all the bullshit that seems to go along with being punker than fuck. And goddamnit, quit calling it a metal album. Judas Preiest was metal, not this. Later Roger ------------------------------ From: Bikinienvy@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 19:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: American Psycho Song Titles I was just curious as to why everyone is bitching and complaining about the new album and in general SONG TITLES and how they suck. I thought it was kinda clever considering most (if not all) of them are Horror Movies......Get over it. I am sure most of you complaining couldn't write and make an album as good as American Psycho..... I could care less if they sound like the old Misfits are not...considering they are not the Misfits....they are the MISFITStm...... Love Always and Then Some, Jeremy/Bikini Envy Fanzine Bikinienvy@aol.com Evansville,IN http://members.aol.com/Bikinienvy/bootlegs.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:39:17 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: guitar/request.tab Misfits/Samhain/Danzig/Undead tab is located at: http://misfits.plan-9.com/guitar.html transcriptions needed: ---------------------- UNDEAD: "hollywood boulevard" "i don't wanna feel the pain anymore" "i'm so happy" "invisible man" "lies" "shadows" "strange creatures" KRYST: "in god we trust" "trial of the soul" "march of the mega-mites" "spellbound" DANZIG: "anything" "bodies" (guitar riff) "hand of doom: version" (danzig riffs) "power of darkness" "ashes" (piano chords) BLACK ARIA: "conspiracy dirge" "battle for heaven" "retreat and descent" "dirge of defeat" "and the angels weep" "the morrigu" UNEASY LISTENING: "cinerarium waltz" "nightmare" "the witches lament" "into the light" questions/comments/submissions/updates: ryq = ryq@aero.org ------------------------------ From: GhoulFiend@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 05:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Movies For Fiends Fiends, 51) The Fiend (1971) A deranged religious fanatic starts slicing people into ribbons. Like that's a real stretch! 52) Fiend Without A Face (1958) Blame it on the atom bomb! Great 50's kitzch in this movie about flying skull-sucking brains with spinal cord tails. 54) Fists Of Fury (1973) Made the same year as Enter The Dragon. I love Bruce Lee movies. This is where Steven Seagal, Van Damme, and Glenn Danzig wish they could be, but there can only be one...well there is also Jackie Chan.. 56) Flesh and Blood Show (1973) A bunch of dumb actors get killed in an island theater. Sort of like what you wish would have happened to Mr. Rourke, Tatoo and the rest of the rejects on Fantasy Island. 57) The Flesh Eaters (1964) Not just a band, a great flick! Nazi scientist experiments with microscopic sea critters that feast on flesh. 58) Flesh Feast (1969) Veronica Lake plays an insane Nazi -hating plastic surgeon who brings Hitler back from the dead only to torture him to death with maggots to avenge her mother. 59) Flesh Gordon (1972) The year I was born, was the year Flesh Gordon became the leader of planet Porno and defeated the evil sex ray. Soft-core porn which is worth a look. Hirstute women and Rick Baker FX abound. 60) The Flesh Merchant (1955) Hollywoood aint no tinsel town as this aspiring model soon finds out in this serious attempt to enlighten people on the horrors of 1950's prostitution. I repeat-ATTEMPT. Watch it with your girlfriend for a laugh. 61) The Fly (1958) The first and best, another classic with the great Vincent Price as Francois Delambre. I cried for days when they killed the spider at the end.~v~ 62) Food Of the Gods (1976) Animals grow to giant proportions and eat island inhabitants. My favorite scene is where the giant mosquito sucks some lucky guy dry. Back before the days of cable they showed this on TV during "Revenge of Mother Nature Week". 63) Frankenstein (1931) This is the role that Bela refused. Boris Karloff made an instant classic and insured that Doyle would covet those neckbolts for all eternity. 64) The Freakmaker (1973) Donald Pleasance is a mad scientist who hybrids people with plants with disastrous results. 65) Freaks (1932) A cruel dancer marries a circus dwarf and uses him for his money. His friends seek vengeance when she tries to poison him by making her one of them. Great movie which was repeatedly banned and almost lost (MGM found it too contraversial and disowned it) until it became a roadshow phenomenon. 66) Frigid Wife (1961) Ever wonder why sometimes your girl just can't get into it or why some nights you are as limp as a noodle? Watch this and find out. 67) Frightmare (1974) Cannibalistic English couple want to have you for dinner. 68) From Beyond the Grave (1973) Peter Cushing owns an antique shop and those who try to steal from him will soon wish they hadn't. 69) The Fury of Hercules (1961) In Italy, Machiste movies were the spaghetti sword-and-sandal movies that were all the rage. Dubbing them into English and re-naming the hero Hercules made them more marketable and a hell of alot funnier. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------- I decided to go ahead and finish up the F's so i could have a clean slate for the G's. I hope you kids are doing your homework by renting these from your local video stores. A mind is a terrible to thing not to waste so go out and expose yourself to this corruption. Let these films inspire you to bust out your camcorders and make some home movies. Kill your friends! Stuff their mouths with red jello and re-create Blood Feast! Send a copy to Bob Saget! Win $10,000! Yours Ghoulishly, Persephone ------------------------------ From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com Date: 17 May 97 15:55:04 EDT Just got AP and its a great CD, but what is up with Doyle?? Wolfgang Von Frankenstien?? Was that just made up??? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 20:26:41 -0700 From: "john scarano jr." Subject: AP The new album kicks ass! It's what Earth A.D SHOULD have sounded like. To tell you the truth, I'd much rather listen to this album instead of that CRAP Glenn is putting out these days. And by the way, Samhain sucks my ass. How can anyone rip the Misfits of today. Glenn's stuff after the misfits in unlistenable. Trash. Glenn turned into a faggot after the misfits and I realize where the heart and soul of the Misfits came from...JERRY ONLY. You can see it in his eyes... Send hate mail to: jscarano@voicenet.com ------------------------------ From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com Date: 18 May 97 10:36:19 EDT Subject: hidden track!! What is the name of the hidden track on AP???? 3 minutes after Dont Open Til Doomsday, another song comes on, is it called "Hell Night"???? gfk ------------------------------ Subject: a few things... From: dave naked Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:02:06 EDT Just a few questions... 1. Does Brent still copy MiSFiTS videos for reletivly cheap? I havent really seen him around the bible...I so, Brent...can you email me with how much and what you have (davenaked@juno.com). 2. Can I order those new MiSFiTS shirts yet, are they still out in Euroupe? thats all I got for now, dave ------------------------------ Subject: G.Danzig signed EAD Gold disc for sale/trade From: dave naked Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:02:06 EDT Hey Fiends: I have a signed EAD gold disc (by Glenn Danzig) just sitting here in my room. So, being that I need money, and wouldnt mind getting something cool for it Im putting it up for sale/trade. I will take best offer. By the way, it was signed 10/29, the day "BlackAciDevil" came out, at Tower Records. Pictures of me meeting him there are on the WWW page under 'photos' (where else??!!). thanxx Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:51:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Woh-Oh! Here comes the dead Subject: pseudo-sighting oh yeah...did everyone see the little story about Glenn on E's the Gossip Show? The gossip in this case was the controversy over who was going to play wolverine, Jean-Claude Van Damme or (as they called him) "doom rocker" Glenn Danzig. All I have to say about this match up is I guess it's the muscles from brussels VS the short guy from Lodi.... Leah ps--I pick glenn ------------------------------ From: MATT Subject: American Psyco Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 21:55:44 +0000 I just got the new Misfits today and I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. Not just by the the music and I'm not even gonna talk about that because I don't want to get into an argument cause it is just my opinion. It's the whole idea of the packaging and every aspect to it. Whatever happened to all the first pressing's on white vinyl w/ fiend club sheet, second pressing green and all that. It had a sticker on it "limited edition" heavy vinyl. jesus Christ, I hauled the thing out of Generation Records in NYC today and I couldn't lift the thing. I needed three guys to help me get it out of the store. (Here's where my reason for posting comes in.) It seems like THE ONLY REASON the Misfits even released this album on "limited edition" vinyl is to try and trick the kids into thinking there is still a chance. They should have pressed it on normal vinyl(which is really what this is) or on colored for so many copies. I've gotten records, H20 for example which are the exact same size and on grey marble vinyl and they don't try to fake you into thinking the heaviness is anything special. Also why do they tell you that their is an unlisted track. It's like, "well I wasn't gonna get it, but since their's an extra track I'm sold. If they are going to tell you it's on the Record they might as well list it. I still love the Misfits but I think it is becoming too much of an "even though we don't want too, we'll do it because we did it before," way of doing things! Thanx, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:24:55 -0700 From: Inzo Subject: Misfits poster for sale I have a Misfits poster that I no longer really care about having so I thought I'd do a little auction. Mint condition, no staple holes Size: length 30 width 22 signed by artist Alan Forbes 96 number 226 of 300 This is a blacklight poster, it glows with a blacklight Description: Picture of Karloff-esque Frankenstein with a CG button purple flames in background All lettering in Orange. From top to bottom is says: MISFITS ANTHRAX Life Cannibal of Corpse Agony All Ages! SAT. AUGUST 17. 1996 The Palace. 1735 N. Vine Los Angeles Goldenvoice Presents Biddings starts at $25.00. Items I will take in trade: Horror Business and NOTLD bootleg together (one deal) Skeleton bone shirt from tour w/gloves An old Misfits poster (ie: Walk Among Us bootleg poster) Evil Dead 2 poster ------------------------------ From: EEdiot103@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Anyone find the heavy black vinyl? If anyone can find "American Psycho" on heavy black vinyl, let me know. I'm gonna see if I can find it at Planet 3 tomorrow, and Mark from Graveyard is gonna see if he can get it in. But since this is Savannah, GA, chances are very slim that I can find it here. Any of you fiends who don't have "American Psycho" yet, listen to the sound files on Scooter's homepage, Horror Hotel homepage, or Geffen's homepage (there is a link to that on Misfits Central) first. Personally, I love it! It's the only CD I've listened to all week, and I listen to it whenever I'm not studying! Some of you may not like it because it is kinda different. However, it is in the same vein as the old stuff--kind of like a modern punk metal version of the old Misfits. I didn't have time to do the review this weekend, but I'll definitely do it tomorrow night. Anyway, for those of you who have it or are going to get it, enjoy! EE Fiend ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 02:20:29 -0700 From: Kaye Elde <"Kelde@Kelde"@mail.sisna.com> Subject: american psycho, what does a heshan think? Hey I just got my AMerican Psycho cd, and I think it's a fair effort, nothing compares to Earth A.D. when it comes to misfits, but this was kind of a cool album, some songs like Resurrection and Shining are kinda lame but Doyle's gotten a lot better, and Michale Graves at some times sounds like Billy Milano from S.O.D., anyways, I say give it a chance, it's not the Misifts we once knew, but Danzig wrote all that stuff, so wouldn't you think after thirteen years without danzig they'd change? I do. Eldis Von Doyle Jr. The Arch Duke of Feces ------------------------------ From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com Date: 19 May 97 08:05:45 EDT Subject: from geffen records This is a long post but worth reading!!!!! It was a dark and gloomy night. As if manipulated by anvunknown entity, the mass of destruction scrolled across the skies in reaction to the baneful union that was soon to form. The fury hurled fierce lightning and ear-bursting thunder but ceased its advance when it found its destination, the reason for its creation: a small town located in New Jersey called Lodi. It was on that night in the summer of 1977 that the chosen three - singer Glenn Danzig, bassist Jerry Only and drummer Manny - took the title from Marilyn Monroe's last movie. And with that first, pre-guitar recording of the 7-inch single "Cough/Cool," released on their own Blank Records, the Misfits were born. Two decades later, and after a lengthy hiatus, the Misfits are back. Their new album,American Psycho (Geffen Records), released May 13, 1997, re-establishes them as one of the most aggressive outfits in rock and speaks volumes about their influence on today's neo-punk bands. In order to fully understand the significance of this record, however, it's important to trace the arduous path the Misfits were forced to take in getting to it. Shortly after the band's inception, guitarist Franche Coma joined them, Manny was replaced by Mr. Jim, and the Misfits began to gather material in hopes of recording a full-length album. In a dispute with a pre-existing Blank Records, the band was offered free studio time under the stipulation that they change the name of their label. The Misfits agreed to the terms, renamed their label Plan 9, and recorded their first LP, Static Age, in 1978. Coma and Mr. Jim left shortly after the LP was recorded; Coma was replaced by Bobby Steele and Mr. Jim by Joey Image. By early 1980, Steele himself had been replaced by Doyle (Jerry Only's younger brother). The band thus coalesced around Glenn Danzig, Jerry and Doyle. The Misfits were never graced with the good fortune of a steady drummer; perhaps best remembered by fans are Arthur Googy and Robo, formerly of Black Flag. Meanwhile, Static Age was rejected by every major record company, so the band buried the gem - but not their spirit. From early 1978 to 1983 the Misfits spawned a rampage of singles, EPs, a live album and two other full-length LPs: Walk Among Us (1982) and Earth A.D./Wolf's Blood (1983). The Misfits' music was primitive, punk-style rock. What separated the band from their hardcore peers, however, was their inspired fixation on horror movies. They created a total world from their passion for the genre. From the B-movie-style artwork, to the band's appearance - with their slick, black devil locks - to the Crimson Ghost (a death's head that became the official symbol of the group) painted on leather jackets, boots and equipment, the Misfits cast a fiendish aura of mystery bewitched by ghoulish charm. But then, after a Halloween show in 1983, the Misfits broke up. Nonetheless, though the band had been largely ignored by the music industry and dismissed by critics who scorned their "gimmick," the fans spoke - the Misfits' posthumous popularity exploded with a force that slit the throat of logic. Original Plan 9 releases began to fetch inordinate sums (mint-condition 45s can earn as much as $700 each). Two compilations, Legacy of Brutality (1986) and Misfits (1987), an unofficial greatest hits, fueled the Misfits fever. Asked why this hunger for all things Misfits endured, group leader and bassist Jerry Only ventures: "If you look at what was happening with music in the '80s, a lot of it didn't make sense. I think we filled a niche; we stuck to what we did, and did it well. We never tried to pull something over on people - we just tried to rock 'em real hard." (Also keeping the Misfits flame burning was the band's genius for - merchandising; their T-shirts, collectible model kits - the Jerry kit figurine has just been unveiled - and wall plaques are highly prized among fans.) As Misfits mania continued into the 1990s, prominent cover versions of the band's songs began to emerge: "Last Caress," by Metallica, "Attitude," by Guns N' Roses, and "Skulls," by the Lemonheads. In February 1997, Caroline Records released Violent World: A Tribute to the Misfits, which featured Misfits material interpreted by the likes of Therapy?, Goldfinger, Pennywise, NOFX, Prong and Sick of It All. The growing legion of Misfits fans could only wonder - what had became of the band? Glenn Danzig had moved on to a new outfit, Samhain, and later to fame with the band Danzig. This left Jerry and Doyle embroiled in a lawsuit with Danzig over back royalties and rights to the Misfits name. Jerry comments on his resolve to reclaim the Misfits moniker: "I didn't know how long it was going to be before I could get the Misfits back on track. But I was going to keep trying, and I wasn't going to give up until we got our name back and got back in the game, because I knew we had something good, and we had to get it back." In 1987, the lawsuit pending, Jerry and Doyle formed Kryst the Conqueror. An album was recorded but shelved after the litigation was concluded in Jerry and Doyle's favor; the struggle to retain their name had dragged on for almost nine years. Misfits once again (as of Jan. 1, 1995), the bassist and guitarist set out to find a singer. Drummer Dr. Chud (formerly of Dan Kidney, Sacred Trash and Sardonica) had been asked to join the band two years before the settlement was finalized. Confident that the Misfits would eventually win back their name, Dr. Chud accepted the invitation. After some 200 auditions, Michale Graves (ex-Valmont) was awarded the job of singer in October 1995; the band was particularly impressed by his energy. In 1996, on their first world tour in over 13 years, the Misfits demonstrated renewed vigor with shows even more spontaneous and incendiary than those of the earlier Misfits. Armed with a bass and guitar they crafted themselves, Jerry and Doyle were wild wolves, thrashing and crashing. Already having proven his vocal skills, Michale displayed a dynamic stage presence (he's been known to climb venue walls without ever missing a lyric). Dr. Chud proved himself "a master behind the drum kit," as Jerry calls him. And new songs like "Mars Attacks," "Blacklight," "The Haunting" and "The Hunger" (all of which appear on American Psycho) thrilled the faithful. The year 1996 saw two monstrous Misfits releases from Caroline Records: Compilation II and a coffin-shaped box set comprising virtually the band's entire output (minus the LP Walk Among Us) - including their previously unreleased first album, Static Age. Few who snapped up these collections, however, knew the Misfits would soon be recording new material. Geffen A&R rep Michael Alago had been following Jerry and Doyle's activities since the Kryst the Conqueror days. In July of '96, he saw the revamped Misfits perform. Convinced by this show and the band's new material that the Misfits were more vital than ever, he signed them to Geffen. Says Jerry of their decision to align themselves with a major label after years of independent releases: "I knew what we could do - we've done it all along. I break my ass from sun up to sun down every day of my life to make this band go. If I can team up with a company like Geffen to make sure our albums are heard, so be it. They let us do everything we wanted; every step of the way we had control. Now I can say, 'If you don't like a song or the way the artwork looks or you think we're a bunch of sissies, you come talk to me; if you can't get our record at your local record store, you talk to Geffen.'" In December 1996, the Misfits recorded basic tracks for American Psycho at Woodstock, N.Y.'s Dreamland Recording Studio in two and a half weeks; Jerry and Dr. Chud laid down the rhythm tracks in two days (that's 17 album cuts and B-sides and bonus tracks). The album was produced by Daniel Rey, known for his extensive collaboration with the Ramones. Andy Wallace (Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine, Slayer) mixed. "We had 35 songs to choose from," Jerry relates. "We narrowed those down and then really analyzed what we were doing; we tightened everything up as much as possible [the longest song on the album is three minutes; nine cuts are under two]. We've still got the classic Misfits backup vocals, the '50s-sounding stuff, the different beats - 4/4 time can turn into a major thrash beat in the same song. But the sound of our instruments is so much better than on our previous records. We worked really hard. We're not trying to show off, but there aren't many musicians out there who could play this album from beginning to end without their arms falling on the floor. It's good; I'm proud of it." Thematically, American Psycho is a return to time-honored Misfits concerns: "Vampires, monsters, alien invasion, Frankenstein - we got it all covered," assures Jerry. Of the band's refusal to address weightier issues, he explains: "People who buy our records and come to see us - from the guy all the way back in the balcony, to the guy getting his head banged around in the front - come to have a good time. And we make sure they do; you can hear about politics and social problems somewhere else. When you come to our show, you get a bunch of guys who go out there and give 110 percent [they've been known to rip through 55 songs a night] - take it or leave it. That's the way we've always been. At a show, everyone's just part of the crowd; there's no them and us; we're all us." This fits with what Jerry says is the key to the new Misfits: team effort. Having seen firsthand the evils of ego in a band setting, he's pleased to report that all the Misfits participated in the creation of American Psycho, in terms of songwriting as well as performance. "When we decided to come out and play as the Misfits again," Jerry says, "I didn't want to just play old stuff. This wasn't about coming back and picking up my paycheck and playing a couple of old tunes for the sake of playing a few old tunes. It was all about this whole new band." "We've survived for 20 years," Jerry reflects. "Maybe the times have finally caught up with us. But 40 years from now, people will still be playing our albums because we won't water down what we do. Our goal is to keep perspective on who we are and where we're going; I want our potential to be even greater than we think it is right now. When we started playing, I expected to see a much larger amount of older people at our gigs, but we don't have that; we've got a young crowd. It shows that we can stay true to ourselves and still grow and move forward as a band." So with that, kill the lights, let the candles burn behind the pumpkins' mischievous grins, and let the skeletons dance, for one thing is certain: The Misfits have returned - and everyday is once again Halloween. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:43:08 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: tired by now So, I figured that I'd hold out on buying American Psycho, because the reviews I'd heard were so mixed. I told myself, "I'll turn up in the 'used section' anyday now." Well, the CD came out Tuesday, and Sunday I found it there in the used section. I was pretty darn happy to not have to pay $14 for a CD that might suck, I only paid $8. Well, I don't think it sucks, but I'm not exceptionally pleased with the outcome. There are some good songs, The Haunting; Hell Night, there are some stoopid songs, Dig Up Her Bones, but mostly the songs are +/-. A lot of the time I found myself saying, "This part of the song is good, but why did they fuck it up by putting in the shitty part." This CD reminds me a lot of Anthrax back in the Spreading the Disease/Among the Living period. One more thing, has anyone in the DC/NoVA area found the 'heavy vinyl'? SMASH! didn't even get the CD until this weekend and Orphius didn't have it either. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 10:26:20 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: tour dates Here are a handful of tour dates from PollStar. 06/19/97 Philadelphia PA Trocadero 06/20/97 New York NY Irving Plaza 06/22/97 Providence RI Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel 06/26/97 Cambridge MA Middle East Club 06/28/97 Albany NY Bogie's 06/29/97 New Haven CT Toad's Place 07/02/97 Norfolk VA Riverview Theatre 07/03/97 Washington DC 9:30 Club ------------------------------ From: "Marina 'Bank Girl' Libbey" Subject: Has any one ever heard of the words INDEPENDANT THINKING????? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 08:06:19 PDT Alright, it's monday morning, and I check my mail, looking forward to any new mail that I might have recieved, and I got this small note from some guy- MATT , and he was agreeing with me about how Graves sounds so much better than Glenn Danzig, did I say that? If I did, which I don't think I did, Don't pay attention to that. I HAVEN'T HEARD THE NEW ALBUM YET!!!!!!!!!!!! Due to where I'm located, McAllen Texas- look on the map, it's about a thumb nail from the coast, (Down at the bottom of Texas, about fifteen miles from Mexico. Nothing EVER happens here, I was lucky enough to see the Misfits down here- but I'm still wondering why they came down here. There are three music stores here- Camelot, Musicland, and a local- shmocal store called Planet Z. Planet Z is the only place I can ORDER, mind you, order, a Skatenigs album for 11.95! The new album hasn't come down here, and if it has, someone bought it in Austin. If someone would be so kind as to record the new album for me, on tape, and send it to:Marina Libbey,1118 West Upas Avenue, McAllen Texas 78501-4165. That would be great. Then I could put my four sents in. I saw the new line-up on June 13, 1996, and half the time I couldn't hear shit cause the crowd was too busy yelling the wrong lyrics to the wrong songs- yes, I realise, that's pretty pathetic... but oh well, I'm not from here, I'm from San Francisco... But like I wrote before, Glen Danzig doesn't give a flying fuck about the boys in black, and would rather ggo try to fuck Satan and brag about it than go back and play with the 'Fits- at least that's what it seems like, and what the fuck did you expect when he left and someone else came in to take his place???? a fucking clone??? Get over it!!! Glen is gone, Glen Doesn't care about the Misfits, Glen is a fucker in the first place!!!! I say if you don't like the new line up, get off the bible with your shit-bag whinning and go fuck yourself!!! Once again, if anyone's got a problem with reality, write me @ 0 bombshellhell@hotmail.com -Rina --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:35:45, -0500 Subject: Misfits In Philly A friend of mine happened to look in the city paper (Philly) and see that tickets for the Misfits at the Troc went on sale on 5/16/97. He went today 5/19/97 and bought both of us a ticket. So any Philly area fiends: TICKETS ARE ON SALE NOW...MISFITS AT THE TROC 6/18/97. ...Marino ------------------------------ From: "mark estes" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #335 Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:22:18 PDT hey fiends. to all who wanted a captain harlock shirt and e-mailed me i am responding to you this way because i did get some overwhelming replies. okay here is the deal , i work at a screen printing shop and every once in a while i get to do my own stuff, so i was always interseted in getting a shirt like the one glenn wears on walk among us so i got the artwork and and did myself as well as some shirts for fiends alike(thanx again to graham for the help on art). then i decided why not do some shirts at low cost and sell them to other fiends as well. I AM NOT USING THIS TO RIP OFF ANYONE ESPECIALLY THE MISFITS. shirts are 13.00 postage paid and here is the breakdown to show you 5.50 for the shirt 3.00 for postage i will send it priorty so it will not get lost 4.00 for ink, screen charge, art charge, dryer, spot drying, mailing folder,ect. if i get over twenty orders i can come down because after i pay for my screen and the use of ink and emulsion to burn the screen. these shirts are black with white plastisol ink (oil based not water) so it will not crack and fade. high quailty-low price. if you are interested write me at mark estes 575 old waitsboro rd. bronston, ky 42518-8507 specify large or x-large i can get these out to you in two to three weeks i would like to print them all at once instead of trying to set up the screen for one screen so get your order in quick. ask graham he is on here somewhere about the quality and quickness if you don't trust me. thanx mark estes pigkiller@hotmail.com p.s.- american psycho is the best. --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: matt richards Subject: boo hiss hiss boo Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 20:47:47 PDT has anybody noticed that on American Psycho there are at least two songs that sound like "where eagles dare" one that starts like "astrozombies" and one like "skulls"? Aint it great? Shit, I'd take VIOLENT WORLD TRIBUTE over "psycho" any day. COME BACK GLENN, COME BACK!! ALL IS FORGIVEN!! we're never going to hear shit like BULLET again are we? or DEVILOCK or SHE or ALL HELL... i sure hoped for better. Michael is a fine singer and they're all competent musicians, but the misfits are definitely over without Glen-- the spark has gone out of them-- that intangible, special element that made the MISFITS so ... so damn cool and different-- it aint on PSYCHO. shit. :-( --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:40:01 +0100 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST update! Note: Our set at CBGB's has been changed to 8:30 p.m. Also, our Black Cat gig on May 29 will be filmed for a future video. Friday, May 23, 8:30 p.m. ADAM WEST CBGBs 315 Bowery in NYC Thursday, May 29, 9 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Betty Blue, Clark's Ditch Black Cat 1831 14th Street, NW, DC -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * e-mail: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:28:46 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: My Rotting Teeth Hello Fiends, A few things here: Assorted things about AP- I think the humger sounds about a million times better on the album then this summer. I dunno they made this song that sounded like a kryst left and transformed it into a great tune. They should have stuck with the 7" version of mars attacks, it does'nt say the voice of god, it says the voice of war. Black Light seemed a whole lot better this summer, I mean it still kicks ass on AP but it is different, one thing I do dig is the organ that starts playing at the 2nd chorus, I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet. Oh and I dont think resurection is about christ it could be ill give you that, but come on gghouls! Besides if it is a cool song it is a cool song! The Haunting is different as well I think that they changed it because of all the probs michale was having singing it and running out of breath! Also ghouls do yourself a favor and listen to the cd with head phones on there is so much shit going on in the back ground of all the songs, like howls and growls on speak of the devil. Which reminds I dont think this is a pro god song seeing is that chud wrote itnow if it were jerry I could see it! But I thought before I had the lyrics that it was god knows im the angel of lies! But I really think it is about becoming a werewolf. later D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:28:03 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Setting all the bullshit in a row... Hello fiends... well i have quite a bit to say today, and the first thing i need to point out is CONGRATULATIONS TO MARK ON HIS GRADUATION!!! I know you must be thrilled to have finally finished school now. to all the fiends that made it to a record convention this past weekend hope all went well with your luck. Mine was ok and intersting since i got to me a member of the Drug Czars, ie the south florida band made up of members from the Eat. Otherwise i got a nice little trade piece or sale piece, Vancouver Independence on Friends Records - if you are sitting there and thinking to yourself what the hell is she talking about. This was the original label to release records for the Subhumans. One other nice note on this record is its still sealed. The other wonderful item was the bargain of the year, yeah right, a Danzig import cd single for Can't Speak, which cost me a whole $5. Australian made. Oh there was something i wanted to touch on from last week, as for Eerie Von being low life, that has to be the most stupid thing i have heard on the bible yet. He has to be one of the nicest guys i have met from the bands yet. I don't know to many low lifes that trusted me to send him my part of the deal with the Rosemary's Babies 7", which he did what he said he would. Exactly two weeks from when i first met him he got home from the tour and sent me the record. Next Mary called me when i was trying to find a Danzig skull pin which was sent to me for free for an art project i was working on. in the middle of one of my worst semesters in school, Eerie and Mary sent me a card to cheer me up, which was signed by both of them. Most low lifes could careless if you were alive or dead and this is something i have never seen in Eerie over a span of 5 years now. I would like to Thank Rich, Gramps, and Tim for sticking up for me. Though it looks like this one is up to me to handle. and thus Brett has lobbed the ball back into my yard again, no court i don't play tennis ;) Well Brett, first off when i said you had a lot to say, it was in reference to all your negative bits about the bible and how things should be. I'm surprised that since you are obviously not happy with the present state of the bible that you should try to stake claim to Mark's job. Plus you are right on one thing, that you are no one to judge others. what the hell gives you the right to judge the other fiends or even me for that matter. Also you are right once again(though this is probably the last time) that Mark runs this place not you, and do you ever see Mark cutting down other fiends on their grammar, or content unless it is an out right flame that is out of control. Blag can tell you all about that(Blag this is not a flame against you i'm just making a point). <<>From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) >well i hate to break your heart Tim, but the version of Green Hell that >was on "MONDAY" and only monday, was the original 1940 version with >Vincent Price and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. not the one about the giantWasps. >Though if you read the lyrics to the song, i don't think that Glenn was >reffering to a movie about giant wasps. Of course, we all know that the lyrics to "Green Hell" (and most other EAD songs) that are in the box-set are 80% wrong, so we'll never know to what Glenn was referring. On another note, not necessarily related to any issue of the Bible in particular, I must say this: There is way too much useless, totally unrelated garbage on the Bible. This has been going on for well over a year now, and although most of the flaming stopped after Mark tried to clean the Bible up a few months ago, it still takes me a good 1/2 hour to sift through the pointless messages.>>>> You picked the one part of my post that was talking about the movie, and then go on to talk about what *you feel* is pointless dreck in the bible. Also it seems i was not the only one that felt that way, since Tim who i was responding to before you put your nose into it and commented on what you said. Funny since i did not talk to him about your post or how i felt about it. And then Gramps mentioned something along those lines too. I really wonder how many fiends you have intimidated from posting to the bible with this one post alone. By the way you do come off sounding sarcastic, and what does me proving what lyrics i have beyond the boxset have to do with what you are going on about. like its a shock that someone might have something you don't know about, i'm sure there is a lot of items out there you don't know about. I have a 48 page zine from 1989 devoted to the Misfits Samhain and Dazing from Germany, i know there is a rare book comprised of all sorts of articles and photos on the bands. only 5 books made from what i heard, and i think that one of the bible fiends even has a copy too. so you still want to get me to prove to you what i have or know? So what if my post was last, out of all those post on that issue you picked some obscure item that was meant as an answer to Tim and his efforts to teach fiends about some Horror movies. which is important, and i could only hope that the new fiends would take the time to watch the movies that their favorite songs take their titles from. Otherwise you decided to poke your nose into something you obviously had no idea what was being discussed. You took a stab at the question of lyrics where the base of what i was talking about was that the movie being shown on AMC was not the movie that Tim thought it was. Oh by the way, "On another note, not necessarily related to any issue of the Bible in particular," was after the part on my post and what you went on to say. Its not a good idea to try to pull one over a packrat, we tend to know when most things the common fiend tossed away will come in handy later on ;) Actually you come off as a Pompous Ass not because of the way you write or if you use big words(oooo!!!)its the topic you picked and how you make yourself sound above other fiends. Plus as far as me being an idiot, i don't know to many idiots who have a Bachelors of Science in Education and fully certified by the state of Florida to teach, AA in Business, if i wanted to take 5 more classes in computer programming i could have an AA in that, Certifiend Computer Graphic Artist, also Computer Technician, interned with NBC, fully trained on the highest end of Paint systems as a Broadcast designer, with work that still airs for one of the largest Latin networks internationally which i don't speak one ounce of spanish yet i can typeset and design with the best of them. should i go on? its amazing what i have done with 29 years, plus took the time to collect one hell of a Misfits Samhain and Danzig collection and never pay what most fiend have. So i don't think the word Idiot applies to me. Though the funniest part of all this is i have never set myself above other fiends or think i'm better than any other fiend in the least. The collection is just that, several items i have aquired over the years and not in any way can make anyone better or worse than anyone else here. So what if certain fiend from Philly go on about what club is better for the Misfits to play at. That is their schtick( oh don't try to figure out if the spelling is right or wrong, if you have lived for 29 years listing to a mother who does speak fluent Yiddish you tend to talk with certain words, i wouldn't expect you to understand that, since you use big words) and it obviously means something to them or they would not have posted it. though you come in again poking your nose into someone elses posts and decide that it does not belong. I read the bible just the same as you do and that is not annoying. Also how do you know what the other fiends feel about that thread on Philly? I warned you once before about Assuming, Benny Hill talked about it for a good 20+ years and you still have not gotten the point. Now where did you get the meaning of the list, i did not know that the whole point of the Misfits Bible was about giving record reviews. shit i must have missed that issue of the bible, Mark in 180+ issues that i have posted you never told me i was not posting for the bible correctly all this time. Plus i have Misfits 101 going on for 6+ months now and that doesn't count either. Why I'm upset, well you first start you post off with my post and your comments that really have nothing to do with what i was talking about, and then as i read more you out right insult every single fiend who posts. You don't think that do you, that maybe that is part of the reason only 8 - 10% of the fiends actually post or participate in the bible cause of fear of ridicule from a fiend like yourself? Everytime i run the Get to know You issue, or any of the games i have for the bible, i get letters from fiends who want to participate but will not post because of the ridicule they see lashed out on the other fiends who do post. Who the hell wants to post and then get crap from you or anyone else about their grammar, spelling, or how their topic relates to the bible. As for my reference to the age or experience of the fiends, that also has to do with what they post. a 13 year old fiend is not likely going to be writing about guitar tech stuff for Misfits songs, or talk about stuff that happend with the Misfits back in the day. they can only post what they know or have experienced. If they are lucky they got to go to one of the shows and met any Misfit, Samhain or Danzig member. Plus what do you do with the bible when all the reviews of the new lp are done, and there is nothing new from Danzing plus no Samhain boxset yet. Do we dry up and die here? So yes there will be posts that don't appeal to everyone, what's new? Some posts don't apply to me but i don't bitch about them being on the bible. I read them and move on. It was meant for other fiends. Grammar, what are you going to do about it. there are some fiends that are still learning about complex grammar and some who might have a problem with it.(Never thought that maybe some of these fiends might be LD or something else that makes it hard for them to work with grammar or spelling) what are you going to do, not allow them to post since they can't make the bible easy to read. Boy, how terrible, it might take you a second or two to reread something. Damn is your time anymore valuable than another fiends? You asked about " Do you know what I have and have not seen?" You mean like in your first post of how you judged me and what i know or have seen? Plus again, how could you stick your nose into my post and comment when you have never even seen the movie? Yes Brett your last statement is right you have never met me, yet again you assume, not good! Oh and as far as me stopping you, well i will not sit around and let you shoot your big mouth off again when it comes down to ridiculing other fiends. Are you any better than me or in some way more able to take me on in a verbal fight, i doubt it. Again, you don't know me well enough to know what i would do, plus you have made it very easy to flame you, and that was just from your posts alone. Allright i have had enough. the balls back in your yard. deal with it. well i am sorry that i did not get to Misfits 101 today, since i had to deal with this bullshit. wed. issue we get back to business. 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Misfits Bible, Number 337 Wed May 21 17:34:33 EDT 1997 Today's Topics: Re: 336 / AMERICAN PSYCHO reply to Blag No One MB335 Balzac and Horror Kid and Eerie and stuff. bible entry jake starr's ass I couldn't have said it better myself. Long-winded mother fuckers... I drink my water form a wolf's footprint information American Psycho War of '97 re: Matt Richards Whoa's lycanthro13 American Psycho - a thinking mans commentary extranaked post WARNING: SARCASM AND GENERAL FUNNY BACKTALK INSIDE Grave robbing; ryq attacks KROQ request line Balt.&DC fiends...etc blah,blah,blah BOBBY STEELE IS A HOMO SEXUAL!! Bobby.... Brett, THAT was a flame? Reality--PLEASE!! Camden Underworld show Misfits Bible #336 Misfits Bible #336 Misfits Bible #336 Reviewers Shut Up Opinions are like... Re: Misfits Bible #336 Re: Misfits Bible #336 Demonspeed WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!! Decline of the Western Civilization. AP Sorry About the New Album American Psycho ROCKS!!! for sale Times Square/Squiggy show, Chyna News Michale Graves MB whats up a sighting "a sighting part two" "words for lycanthro13" "Danzig and horse racing..... " "Descendents" "ADAM WEST in NYC" "stuff" stuff for sale Re: Misfits Bible #336 Back to the fiendly stuff... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 336 / AMERICAN PSYCHO From: undead@juno.com (bobby steele) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:11:25 EDT TIMES SQUARE gigs Don't forget: MONDAY, Memorial Day TOMPKINS SQUARE PARK also TRADEMARKS - Friday May 30 - 1702 E. Franklin St, Richmond, VA It seems that A P has generated quite a split among the bible. It doesn't suck. As a MISFITS record it is a slight dissapointment. As A KRYST record, it's a vast improvement. It's obvious that this band wouldn't be worth shit if it weren't for the songwriting of Michale and CHUD. Personally . . . I think Doyle's guitar sound is great. We didn't have the technology back in the day to get that sound without tons of horrible feedback (remember those awful bootlegs?) My two favorites are DOOMSDAY and HELL NIGHT. I think the different hidden tracks on the LP and CD are a cheap marketing ploy. It's one thing to feature different artwork/posters/extras - but to do this with the music . . . where you have to buy two copies just to get all the music just doesn't seem fair to the fans. >From the GEFFEN press release: >In 1987, the lawsuit pending, Jerry and Doyle formed Kryst the Conqueror. >An album was recorded but shelved after the litigation was concluded in >Jerry and Doyle's favor; I thought KRYST was shelved long before the lawsuit was settled. It was more due to poor sales of the E.P. because "you, our fans, didn't support us". According to Jerry - in JERSEY BEAT #40 - KRYST was rejected by the majors in 1990. ------------------------------ Subject: reply to Blag No One MB335 From: undead@juno.com (bobby steele) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:11:25 EDT I just got MB 335/336 Here's my replies to 335. On another note; if you're planning on being in New York City on Memorial Day; TIMES SQUARE will be playing a FREE SHOW at TOMPKINS SQUARE PARK - along with a few other bands. BLAG said: >I thought it was jerry and glenn that were the hypocrites and only in it >the money , well then again there goes Bobby with his own patented "foot >mouth" disease, To put it straight. I have never denied wanting money for my effort. Jerry is the one who said he wasn't in it for the money. I've been honest with you on this. Jerry is just trying to scam on the idealistic punks who don't believe musicians should be in it for the money. Nonetheless, I am willing to play benefits for proper causes. Jerry won't. > out of the 18 songs, only 3 suck and those songs are Walk Among Us , >Crimson Ghost and Mars Attacks If I'm not mistaken, these are songs that your god, Jerry, wrote. >From: Julian Baldry >That is plainly ridiculous. Bobby, you said it yourself, labels were >interested in Jerry (who, like him or hate him, DOES have a higher >profile than yourself) if he could bring them the Misfits... why the hell >would they give a rat's ass about some band you made up? Therefore, >as Jerry is now on a major it's unlikely anyone would take an >band on as both he & Glenn have now been snapped up... in other >words, you CAN'T now compete with Jerry. If I had the money, I could make a new record faster. I'm no glenn Danzig, but I'm a far better songwriter than Jerry. >What is more money going to get you? If I had it, I wouldn't have to grovel (?) to other labels just to get my music out. I could do it myself. I did a lot with ACT YOUR RAGE - on only 6 or 7,000 dollars. A far cry from the amount Jerry wasted on KRYST - and he couldn't give that away. > One thing it won't do is >make your music any better, in fact, many great bands have turned to >shit once they came into money... so maybe Jerry's doing you a favour :) Thanks for the vote of confidence. As it is; my situation just got better. I was able to get a better board for my home studio, and the new UNDEAD LP is coming along nicely. As far as your "conspiracy" comment - there are a few members of the mainstream who are beginning to ask "why - despite his talent and track record - has Bobby been ignored by the industry?". There is a thing called BLACKLISTING in the entertainment industry. BRETT FAMA: >Yeah...the only reason I brought it up was that the amount seemed high. >Especially high if one guy gets double what everyone else does, and that >same guy is the only one involved with every recording on the entire >boxset -- and is even involved more than once (ie: as singer and as >overdubbed guitar, bass, or drums) on many of the songs. So right there, >good chunk of money falls in one person's hands. If everyone else still >gets $70 000 for much their more limited invlovement, then how much did >Glenn get? And how much was the total pie? None of my business, of >but I'm just curious... This is a big part of my lawsuit. I can't get a straight answer. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:33:22 -0700 From: Inzo Subject: Balzac and Horror Kid and Eerie and stuff. Remember a while back I posted about a japanese Misfits rip-off band called Balzac? Well, American Psycho sounds a little like these guy's. I think the band must have gotten a hold of this cd. You know why? there's a song on it called "From Hell it came" HA! Talk about Wherever I roam. The cd also starts off with a metal instrumental like AP does. This cd is pretty good. I have an idea too, I can trade a copy to Chris Ternes for a tape of his, and anyone who wants a copy can get one from him. My lawyer wants me to post that I still have not gotten paid from Horrorkid. Remember I gave him 65 dollars for a Star Wars widescreen trilogy and got nothing? Yeah that was in about February, so everyone watch out for him. I caught him lieing to me too. One time he told me he sent out the trilogy plus a bootleg danzig 7" (I didn't ask for). Recently I told him that I would take some of his posters in place of the money. he replied by telling me that he could give me THAT BOOTLEG and some cash. Right there he admitted that no trilogy was mailed because he is still in possession of the bootleg. OR what he ment was along with the trilogy he sent me a COPY. Who knows. Let's hope HK can redeem his reputation. Also, THIS IS IMPORTANT: That auction by Doug@1st.net. I have never heard of the guy and neither has Mark. I have a bid on 2 items I really want and I don't want to get ripped off AGAIN. I just want to know if anyone knows if his auction is legitimate. That is all. For those of you that attacked me for saying Ressurrection was a religious song, and for only reading face value and not reading deeper. I think YOU need to read deeper! Remember is said: "i THINK ressurrection is about jesus christ MAYBE speak of the devil is too." That post: I wasn't sure about the lyrics so I wanted to bring them in here for discussion because I didn't quite understand them. Eerie Von a lowlife: okay I wasn't supposed to beleive Eerie in the Danzig 1 homevideo. I knew it was a joke, yeah right! How do you KNOW at that time he wasn't serious? How do you know John really DOESN'T know how many girlfriends he has? How are you supposed to KNOW Chuck really drew those pich-chures (huh huh) How do you know Glenn was telling the truth about his beliefs on religion! Some stupid guy was doing the interview they weren't being serious: Those interviews were for the homevideo. kidding or not that's the image Eerie wants to portray whether it's true or not. I don't think I made any sense. I just paid 150 bucks to get my monitor fixed so Harlock shirts will be back soon. First one to get one is that girl who got me the paint. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:17:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Rojo Subject: bible entry Fiends, what is going on? not much here. I got some stuff to sell, because I am trying to get $$$ for a trip to the holy land. (n.y. n.j. d.c.) So I am selling some records. here is what I have to sell. Die Die my darling (reissue, sealed) lp collecion 1 (reissue, sealed) lp Evilive (reissue, sealed) lp Violent world (orange vinyl, sealed) lp (just got some more in) kill your baby today (boot,) cd collection 2 (sealed) cd American Psycho (sealed) lp Black flag- my war (reissue? sealed) lp Black flag-slip it in (reissue? sealed) lp huck'em- music for real sportsters (has new misfits tune walk among us on it as well as various other bands) (promo cd) only 2 left! Wel that's it so far. I have some other things that I am not sure about parting with, but if your interested in something, just ask. Thanks, Jason cantona@elwha.evergreen.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:33:12 +0100 From: Jake Starr Subject: jake starr's ass < by the way, if you haven't gotten 4 Hits From Mars yet, you should. is it better than violent world? in my opinion, no, but only because it isn't as long. but the songs are good, and it's cheap. more power to jake starr and everything he may stick his finger in, even if it is his ass.>> how did you know? are you peeping through my window again, lover? -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * e-mail: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:38:19 -0400 From: "Kevin L. Kuder" Subject: I couldn't have said it better myself. This is directed to LYCANTHRO13: Hey, man, I'm just glad to hear that someone finally knows what they are talking about. Your comments about Glenn's lyrical style and creativity were right on. The reason the Misfits were/are so cool is because Glenn fucking got INTO what he was doing, and having a blast. Maybe he hates talking about the Misfits because he wasn't having fun with it anymore, maybe something/someone ruined it for him and he didn't want to have anything to do with the 'Fits anymore, so he moved on. At times it seems like Jerry is trying to hard to look like he's enjoying himself. Glenn Danzig was/is the Misfits. Flame on. Kuder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:51:44 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Long-winded mother fuckers... The problem with a lot of you folks when you post long messages, is that you put in line after line of crap that most people probably aren't interested in reading! For instance, the recent "family feuds" here... take it to E-Mail, OK? Remember the "Righteous Black Duck"? And please don't post anything unnecessarily. For instance, GKichli1@mobile.bam.com posted an article that is available at Geffen's Misfits Web Site: http://www.geffen.com/misfits/. He posted it without attribution, as well... people, even if you don't care about copyrights, you should at least mention where an article comes from so we can tell what "slant" it's going to have. I forget who it was that compared the new Misfits to "SOD featuring the cast of Rocky Horror"... that's a pretty harsh statement. But somehow... amazingly insightful! I have to confess I've been playing my AMERICAN PSYCHO disc an awful lot. I still can't really say I LIKE it, but there's something addictive about it, like Chee-Tos. NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: your worst nightmare <02459@udel.edu> Subject: I drink my water form a wolf's footprint LeAnna, I've tried to email you at danzig@cybergirl.com several times, and each time it got sent back to me with an error message, but I got your email. The picture with shipping and handling will be about $7. Mail it to me at: Emily Freehafer 124 Loretta Lane Bear, DE 19701 and email me. :) ------------------------------ From: plasmic.fluid@jungle.net Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:43:52 -0500 Subject: information ok Lycanthro13@hotmail.com wrote something like >we went from lyrics like "demon i am and face i peel" to "i take my >cyclotrode right out of its case" (i dont have cut and paste im running on memory :) THINK about it buddy... the name of the song is "CRIMSON GHOST". have you ever watched the crimson ghost miniseries? i have the whole series on tape (got the box set)... the weapon that the crimson ghost steals from the doctor guy professor thing is called the CYCLOTRODE. and beleive it or not they kept it in a case. those are actually really good lyrics for a song about the crimson ghost. also, im looking for any vinyls anyone might have... please email me private about that... not just misfits, but also: minor threat exploited gbh operation ivy sardonica :) crass theres really no point in flaming me i dont think :) -tj theesfeld Check it out: WWW.JUNGLE.NET/PLASMIC/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Plasmic.Fluid@Jungle.net Plasmic Fluid - bbs handle FreeDm - IRC handle -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Check it out: WWW.JUNGLE.NET/PLASMIC/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:52:01 -0400 From: David Moon Subject: American Psycho War of '97 ATTENTION: ALL FIENDS, A.P. WORSHIPPERS AND HATERS ALIKE Within the last week there have been many postings in this bible regarding everyone's opinion of the newly released Misfits album. Some fiends like it and some fiends don't. It is everyone's right to express their opinion about anything whether you or I agree with it or not. However some things should not be tolerated. After I posted my opinion of A.P., I received some personal e-mail pretaining to my view of the album. This person called me a faget and told me to go fuck my mother. I found it to be a bit of an over-reaction. A large number of people who like this album are basically telling others to "FUCK OFF!" and get off the bible. This is ridiculous! I am not going to send hate mail to someone because they like A.P.(or tell them to fuck off and get off the bible for that matter). Some people who like the new album should chill out. Not everyone will agree on this album's integrity, that doesn't mean a war should start. I think A.P. sucks. That doesn't justify someone sending me hate mail. I simply stated my opinion. Criswell ------------------------------ From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCBBS" Subject: re: Matt Richards Date: Mon, 19 May 97 15:03:00 PDT >WHAT NEW AND EXCITING THINGS THAT YOU WERE UNFAMILIAR >WITH DID YOU COME ACROSS >IN AMERICAN PSYCHO? ANY NEW SKULL DESIGNS? NEW WORDS? >REFERENCES TO MOVIES OR >COMICS YOU'D NEVER HEARD OF? >I'll answer for myself-- NOT ONE. Just speaking for myself man, but I did find out about one the most gruesome fucking books ever written. Everyone who hasn't done so yet, who enjoys gore, check out this book. It starts out slow as a salted snail, but Jesus Christ if it doesn't pick up speed after the first 100 pages. As for the rhythm of the lyrics in American Psycho (I'm only commenting on that one song) to me, they go hand in hand with the action in the book, I'm basically referring to the speeded up "I hate people". I don't wanna' ruin it for those who plan on reading the book, but to go from simply b.s.'ing with someone to poking out their eyes with a serrated knife kinda' quickens the tempo a bit. Which to me is how the lyrics are arranged. I can't possibly go as in depth on this as you did, nor do I really want to. But, yes, I did find out about something pretty damn cool from this album. FIENDS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:24:10 -0500 From: punkture Subject: Whoa's Ghouls and gentlefiends, The misfits and Naked Raygun weren't the only bands to Whoa.As I recall it the Ramones do on one song I'm for sure,it's called Chainsaw(All the stuff and more volume one). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:59:38 -0500 From: punkture Subject: lycanthro13 Right on fiend!I mean that fiend said it all.You just have to analyse instead of just comparing.He knew what he was talking about and I agree with everything he said.See ya in the pit! Punkture "Metamorphoses lycanthrope.Possant inquam" ------------------------------ From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Date: 19 May 97 18:07:50 EDT Subject: American Psycho - a thinking mans commentary I don't understand why some of you are offended by the Judas Priest comparisons that several readers have made. Jerry has publicly admitted that he likes that type of music, specifically referring to Judas Priest and Iron Maiden. If you are a fan of those bands, you can see the comparisons between American Psycho and those groups. I'm not saying that they are blatant or make the Misfits sound like 80s metal, but if you listen closely to songs like The Abominable Dr Phibes, you can hear it being patterened after The Hellion by Judas Priest (I almost expect Electric Eye to kick in next!), and when you hear the riff in Mars Attacks, you picture a dueling Adrian Smith and Dave Murray of Iron Maiden doing those types of riffs ala The Trooper or 2 Minutes to Midnight. If you are a fan of more than one genre of music, you learn to appreciate the subtle difference each artist brings to the table. That is why the new 'fits sound different than the old 'fits. Partially for the reason that one reader explained last issue as far as a writing style that Glenn had in respect to lyrics, the other being that the music that influenced Glenn, i.e. 50s and 60s rockabilly, rock and roll and garage bands, are not what influeces Jerry. Doyle et. al. Its also why early punk of the 70s and early 80s sounds the way it does, and the stuff from the later 80s and today sounds the way it does .. its all been injected with the 80s thrash, metat inluences... I like American Psycho. I think its the best album this new band could have issued. It tries to make references to the past (the who oh ohs and stuff) but the song writing style is rooted in such a different influence that there is no way I could mistake this album for the same band that did Static Age or Walk Among Us. (The Earth AD influence I can see.). I do hear Therapy? when I hear this record, I hear early Suicidal Tendencies, a little SOD, some Metallica, and guitar stylings of James Hetfield, Glenn Tipton and Scott Ian. You notice that these are all bands (well some are) that already got their influence from the early 'fits! To me, its almost like the Newfits are ripping off the bands the ripped off the Old Fits! Ha! I'm done ... AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:32:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Rojo Subject: extranaked post Fiends, I know this is none of my business, but can we stop with the raggin and bitching at each other? It is no fun to read. I thought we were like a family that looks out after each other. I know in every family there are disagreements, but this is starting to get out of hand (in my opinion) CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? Let's just put a stop to the bitching and moaning. I mean, it's getting really old. Tammy shouldn't be put on the spot for what she says or what she has. She and Mark do a lot of shit for the rest of us that they don't need to do. They do it because it helps the rest of the flock in on valuble tips, secrets, shows and other pertinent info. brett and tim and whoever, if someone talks shit, then just blow em off. Is it really that big a deal if someone says something that you don't like? Fuck, let's quit busting each others chops. I personally don't want to hear about everyone's review of AP, but I don't mind it that much because I like to see others people's point of view. The reasons they don't like it. If they don't like it, well then oh well. Other people do and so on. Anyway, that's it for my big speech. By the way, when I posted earlier about stuff I had to sell, I have this to, Samhain "face" poster (mint) See you all later, Jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 18:49:42 -0700 From: Grandpa Atomic Subject: WARNING: SARCASM AND GENERAL FUNNY BACKTALK INSIDE First of all, I had no intention of getting too violent in my responses or having to show this kid up, but unfortunately he takes defending himself into the realm of personal attacks and sheer idiocy, proving his hypocritical and lying tendencies. Defending yourself is fine, being a stick-up prick sure ain't. I apologize, but it has to be done. Big Joe Denunzio on the warpath...hee hee. (disclaimer: spell and grammar check not up to school stanards; 1) cuz I ain't got the time and 2) because I just don't care, I got nothing to prove) Some Canuck contemplated > Really? Why is that, because I don't make idiotic errors? It's probably because of your seeming need to prove yourself. > Tell me, how old do you think I am? No more than 20, I'm guessing a current English student, maybe with computer fanboy thrown in on the side. > I have posted to this list for a couple hundred issues. I'm so proud. I've been in punk and hardcore, putting out records for over twelve years. I've been in seven bands. I've organized shows and tours, I've roadied with others bands you only dream about, and I have a huge record, tape, video and memorobilia collection. But you don't hear me bragging, cuz I'm just a sweetie. > I think I have helped Mark a fair bit with his WWW page, and I talk > with him in personal emails. What do you want, a cookie? > I seriously don't believe I have ever "flamed" anyone (except in retaliation) You have now. > If there is anyone who feels the need to prove herself, it is Tammy. Tammy knows plenty about the Misfits, has a large collection and is a very tolerant person. She goes on at times, but has good judgement and is a good person. I seriously doubt she has self-doubts or strong need to prove herself to a bunch of adolescents interested in a failed reunion band. Tammy, as I'm sure many others can back me up on, is friendly, helpful, and hardly a hypocrite. Unlike you, wench. > Believe me, Tammy, if I had wished to flame you, or anyone else, it would have > been much more explicit. There would be no doubt whatsoever that I was > whipping your ass. Don't worry kids, he's not pompous. And as usual, his excellent word choice seems to fail whenever it gets time to threaten over the computer screen. He's gonna break open a can of whup-ass. Tammy, bust him. She'll show you girls are even tougher than boys. Especially boys like you. > Maybe if I ask one of my 8 or 9 year-old cousins to write my messages, people like you > will understand them. Pomposity? Uneducated flames? Not from this gent! I'd like your older cousins to write me messages, maybe we can talk about finger painting. > "Just a suggestion" Tim, or Daniel, or whatever you call yourself: stay the fuck away > from southern Ontario if you value the use of your legs, you stupid bloody idiot. > You're obviously a moron, so you'll probably have to look on a map to find the place. > It's in Canada. You know, that vast expanse of land to the north of the USA. Oh, BTW, > north is usually the "up" direction on a map. Anyway, that's where I live, and if you > get within a mile of me, I'm gonna knock you out. And don't even think of emailing me > personally like you did last time; keep all of your whining, juvenile comments to the > Bible, where I can respond or ignore them at my own leisure. Oi! That is one bitter apple there kiddies. I especially love how he gets upset about people polluting the Bible with off-topic stuff then requests it is placed in the Bible in the future. You can ignore your own e-mail, putz. Boy, some people take it all so seriously. Note the wonderful threatening tone of "you stupid bloody idiot". Oooh, he's sharp as a tack, and he's testin' out them prep school fighting words. Roar. > Grandpa Atomic: Whatever...you don't know me, so call me whatever you > want -- just realize that you do so in ignorance. I hope for your sake you > never get the chance to say it to my face. Nope, you're right, I don't know you, but I know your type which is a stuck-up snob with something to prove. Jerry? Yeah, punk music sure has stuck to it's roots, hasn't it? Ignorance, eh? You're one to talk, seeing as your double standards and hypocrisy drip off the screen when I begin to read. Mind numbing! If you want to fight I'm more than happy to accommodate you, but I'd advise you find out who I am before you commit. One Hip Chick (tes777@bridge.net) silked: > I would like to thank Rich, Gramps, and Tim for sticking up for me. > Though it looks like this one is up to me to handle. and thus Brett has > lobbed the ball back into my yard again, no court i don't play tennis ;) Well Tammy, you're welcome to it any time. Wish I had read this before I had to gloryhole this guy, but I'll back up and let you deal with it. He's way below your level, it shouldn't be any trouble. The Only True Misfits (undead@juno.com) preached from beyond the grave: > May 26th FREE CONCERT at TOMPKINS SQUARE PARK - NYC ! ! ! Damn, I'm there. Free stuff rox. Bobby, we'll have to meet up. > There are some people out there, that I'm convinced would buy > anything called THE MISFITS even if it was just ROBO and BRIAN DAMAGE. There are lots of idiots and collectors out there. Wait, same thing! Oh well. Hey, don't be dissing ROBO, he was not only a really nice and cool guy, but he was on many of the greatest albums ever made. What luck. To think he's wasting his time now with six kids and a business in Columbia's too bad, he should get back to drumming and show a few of these lousy new drummers how it's done. >Avengers- some one asked about them- they were NOT a new wave band, >one of the most prominate punbk bands in san franciso, they opend for >pisotls at their last show in '78 (along with the nuns) Well, they deteriorated over time, but the early stuff from the Avengers and the Flesheaters is hands down the greatest punk rock to come outta California, an area filled with tons of "influential" bands, most of whom influence poorly. The Nuns, BTW, are great too, they have a live LP that I love, and their first 7" is certainly a well-deserved record to be given the title of "classic". I love "Decadent Jews". Dead Kennedy (msk4m@virginia.edu) wrote: > Steve Zing and Eerie Von keep in constant contact with Glenn, so I would assume they > would know if there was going to be a Samhain reunion. That's all I meant by that. I would not be surprised at a Samhain reunion. Why? Jerry isn't in the band! Look at what you just wrote, they all keep in contact and still get along. Why these people don't just cut the shit, quit all their current crappy bands and get together into a good one is beyond me. Come on! I mean, it's all well and good to do music you like, but if it's horrible (see new Danzig CD / Eerie Von "Uneasy Listening") just make a tape and listen to it in your car, don't release it, the over-saturation is too massive already! So, I think yes eventually on the Samhain reunion, but it's entirely possible I'm just watching too much X-Files of late. Jason Rojo Bustin' Mojo wrote: > The reason I say this is because the new misfits aren't the old misfits. > The new stuff is incredible. Period. The old stuff is incredible. Period. Oh lord. It is the second coming of the apocalypse. > So I am truly sorry that some don't like the new stuff. It is a > shame, because the misfits are truly ahead of their time. No offense intended man, but you seriously need to listen to older stuff. They are not only way behind their time, but they are really bad, doing inferior versions of plenty of already bad stuff that's been done. But if you like it, that's what matters, what I say isn't important. I mean, hey, I love Carcass and Napalm Death (from my teenage violence days), so even I'm not totally perfect (but I'm close). Li'l Gregg shouted: > LISTEN UP, WHY DOES IT MAKE YOU MAD TO SEE A 12 > YEAR OLD SUPPORTING THE MISFITS!!!!!!I AM TWELVE YEARS OLD AND I HAVE BEEN A > FIEND SINCE THIRD GRADE AND YOU PROBABLY THINK THAT ALL TWELVE YEAR OLDS > EITHER LIKE RAP OR BUSH AND 311 BUT NOT ME!!! Brett, I thought you carefully considered each word you wrote. I like it much better when your true colors show! Ooops, sorry kid, I didn't mean to assosciate you with that slimeball. Don't be like him when you grow up. > YOU SHOULD BE GLAD THAT THERE ARE YOUNG FEINDS OUT THERE TO LET THE LEGACY LIVE ON > WHEN YOU GUYS ARE GONE!!!!!! Yo kid, punk rock! I think it's awesome there's a 12 year old punk rocker on the Bible, I was into this shit when I was 12 too, although young soldier, I'm not in my grave yet. Hey, Gregg, write me sometime and I'll hook you up with lots of good punk shit so you can just be the punk rocker of your class. And to Eighties@GTI.net, age discrimination isn't cool, as much as I love to joke around with it. This kid rocks out. More Goddamn Canadians (G405E@acad1.csd.unbsj.ca) wrenched: > The person Im really sick of hearing from is GRAMPS. Boy, tell me about it, that guy is one opinionated prick. > Is is me, or is everyone sick of this jerk comming on and dropping the names of every > single fucking "real" > punk band he has stashed away on some stuid 7" somewhere? I'm not Tim Yohannon. Oooh, name dropping! I'm so much cooler than you! > I dont give a shit if you have a large musical library pal, I really dont. Did I ever brag about it? Jeez, if you wanna live in musical ignorance, you're more than welcome to. Go back to milking the cows, sheesh. > What are you trying to do? Show us all that you are a real punk and an > expert in what is cool and what is not? Shit, you must have dropped > the names of about 400 fucking bands in three or four of the posts > you have made. Gimmie a break. And you can read about more bands like Defiance of Shit Bastards, Food, Charles Bronson, Quill, Trainwreck, Egofix, SxOxBx, Discordance Axis, Hellchild, Multiplex, Uutuus, His Hero Is Gone, Inward, Initial State, Systral, Communist Propaganda Boyz, Lyers In Wait, Fearless Iranians From Hell, Hellnation, CFDL, Result, Short Hate Temper, Amen, Electric Frankenstein, Hard Skin, Senseless Apocalypse, Price of Silence, Assuck, Palakta, Volume 11, BTPNLSL, Morser, Acme, Mutilkeo Fairies, Terrorizer, Rorschach, Negative Approach, Absolution, Neanderthal, Crossed Out, and at least 350 more when you read the wonderful column @ http://www.magicnet.net/~othello/columns/ and look me up! Keep reading! > Quit judging the new record by > comparing it to your god like record collection. It's a good record > and it stands alone. If it were not the Misfits would you like it. Oh, get off it. I could compare it to Motley Crue's Too Fast To Live and it would come out weak. I mean, I don't care what they call it...they're not dishonoring MY past, but if I were Glenn or Bobby I'd really slag the new piece of shit record. > What if it were the new Balzac or whatever the hell their name is > record? Would you shoot your load over it then? Ill bet you would. I'd say that they suddenly deteriorated after three excellent 7"s! Argh. Well, I'm sure the flames will continue to pile up, and believe it or not I have a good time responding to them. Unlike those with a chip on their shoulder. And finally, to be punk rock: Brett Fama, kiss my ass. THE SAINT OF KILLERS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:31:12 -0400 From: William Bartilson Jr Subject: Grave robbing; AZ; with regard to the following: >RevHugosXe@aol.com said "on my freinds block theres one of those centuries >old tiny graveyards with about 7 graves,and >we are considering taking the >risk of a getting caught as opposed to showing real loyalty and grave >robbing for the misfits > >If anyone ever fucked with the graves of any of my relatives, i'd hunt them >down and shoot them myself! Have some goddamn respect! Jerry Only coudln't >give a flying fuck about the skulls your send him ... think before you act. He's joking, at least I certainly hope so or I will join you in waxing him. I believe he's refering to Jerry and Doyle "grave robbing" the legacy of the Misfits. >Persephone said " Last night i interviewed GWAR for my website, got stoned >in the bus with Slymenstra Hymen" > >Wow, you smoke pot? You are too cool. Yep she is Kewl AZ. <--- sarcasm for those who couldn't tell. >From: Gregg >Subject: LISTEN UP > >Dear -LISTEN UP, WHY DOES IT MAKE YOU MAD TO SEE A 12 >YEAR OLD SUPPORTING THE MISFITS!!!!!! Gregg, while i agree with your statements, please refrain from using all caps. It gets annoying. This also goes for everyone else. Caps are fine for emphasis, but not for an entire message. :) Oh and to james e lunn, try to use punctuation next time it makes reading and comprehension much easier. :) Stay Sick!! Wolfsblood. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Enter of your own free will. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:44:02 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: ryq attacks [for sale] this is from my buddy Braden: $20 - Misfits: Creepy Compilation. includes: 30min "why be something your not" 25min live at golletto center, santa barbara, feb 83 5min "brain eaters" promo 40min flipside magazine video, boston, mass $20 - Minor Threat: Live at the 930 Club, DC, june 83. official Dischord release w/cover and booklet. $10 - Napalm Death: Live Corruption. 1990. official release with cover. Braden is willing to trade for live Neurosis bootlegs. send offers or well-concealed cash to: Braden 2602 182nd st redondo beach, ca 90278 [16] visit a 16 web page at http://misfits.plan-9.com/sixteen.html. [tab] some silly little corrections have been made. more importantly, thanks to J-Sin Aaron and Mark, the new Misfits album AMERICAN PSYCHO has been transcribed in its entirety. [the new era of cock-rock] after listening to the new Misfits album, go back and listen to the Kryst EP. it's much more tolerable now. hehe. =) "get ready to rock!" [samhain] some stupid shit i'd like to share: in "the shift", right the end of the first chorus, right as the two punches occur, Glenn can be heard saying "kick, snare!" even funnier, the echo used in the chorus is still on, and the words are clearer as steve starts playing to lead into the second verse. on "to walk the night", studio chatter can be heard right before the solo. on "lords of the left hand" *someone* screwed up programming the drums and ended up with one passage that would be physically impossible for one human drummer. it's like a hi-hat, snare, tom and cymbal at the same time. oops. on "misery tomb", listen closely. in one part you can hear "i am misery" in the background. no duh. :) now where's that damn samhain boxset?!?!?! pryq ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:55:44 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: KROQ request line i figured we could try to get the Misfits some airplay. call KROQ (the LA "alternative" station) at 800-520-1067 and request the Misfits. maybe fiends could start posting some radio station 800#s? my daily routine will now include calling KROQ. =) jyrq ------------------------------ From: MR BENJAMIN W BARNARD Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:08:35, -0500 Subject: Balt.&DC fiends...etc Halo Fiends, Random observences and mindless babbling follows: Be Forewarned First off, My bibles have been arriving in an eratic nature as of late. No blame is lain, just an observance. Secondly, any fiends from Balt. or DC area are asked to get in touch. I need more like myself. Punker than thou types need not apply. I am halfway between the cities and need to know where to get AP on vinyl. Look forward to seeing all you fiends at 9:30 club {including our illustrious (sp?) host MK...you sure you wanna live in DC?} As for American Psycho: I feel that this disc is a strong showing for the Misfits. They have combined the best of the old and the new. Their primary songwriter was gone, I think they were fighting for their name, released a weak album (KTC), and finally got their act together. All behind the scenes s**t-talking, egos, and all around whining aside; I feel that they have done a good job of being "old" misfits while finding more ways to grow (and a major lable to boot) People whine about how Michael is trying to be Glenn, People whine about how they sound "nothing like old 'Fits" If you love it cool, join me in the pit, If you hate it, that's your choice...but must we fight about it? You are not going to sway my opinion and I will not try to sway yours. In an arena such as the bible has become there is room for discussion, let's try to be civilized. BEN ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: blah,blah,blah >>I believe it was in RIP, where Glenn totally dissed MEtallica i'm not too sure how true that is...he did sing three misfits songs with them a few years back and just recently mentioned them recently ("96 or early this year) in a radio interview. on a semi-related note, i found an old magazine where he said "harvester of sorrow" was his favorite song at that time. not so sure how that is either but it was interesting. "don't believe what you read" >>I got the impression it's about Jerry and his involuntary 13-year hiatus involuntary? not quite. he could've played those songs during that time. bobby never stopped. >>Also why do they tell you that their is an unlisted track. i wonder myself. i think they should've hidden the whole album but that's just my opinion... D.EVIL "...i take back my trust in you..." ------------------------------ From: hate breader Subject: BOBBY STEELE IS A HOMO SEXUAL!! Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 17:27:52 PDT YEAH BOB I HEARD THE BOBBY VIRSION ITS ON VAMPIRA MY FRIEND HAS THAT ITS COOL ITS ONE OF THE BEST SONGS ON THAT CD ITS ALSO ON ANOTHER ONE BUT I DONT REMEMBER THE TITLE BUT ITS GOT THE HOLLOWEEN SINGLE BUT ITS AN IMPORT/BOOTLEG CD ANY ONE LIKE RANCID?? ANY ONE KNOW IF THEY ARE COMIN OUT THIS SUMMER TO CALI?? IF SO POST SOMETIN (i really really wanna see them live i hear they are great live and i have seen a vidio and they are good,) SEE YA IN DA PIT DAVE LARRY --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Blagripper@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Bobby.... Bobby farts: "HMMMM. Freudian slip . . . Now we all KNOW why Blag can't shut up about me." well well well, Bobby, of course i love you, you are my bastard son, that's right go ask your mommy about it, sunshine...but dont worry it's ok to be a bastard bobby, you have been one for years, so it shouldnt be anything new for you. all you chumpys out there flaming american psycho can kiss my ass and that's the bottom line cause blag the ripper says so, fuck all y'all who say it sucks, if glenn sang on it all y'all would bitch as well, if y'all cant accept jerry and the boys kicking ass all over the rest of the crap out there in musicland then go listen to those pussies rancid, but then again y'all are all dancing to blackacidevil at your nearest faggot rave, yeah yeah yeah , owwww, well alright...i am the astroboy , well yeah, owww, yeah well alright, owww, the dwarves are young and good looking. later choads! :) have a nice day Blag Jesus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: Brett, THAT was a flame? Last issue, Brett Fama put us in awe with - >I have posted to this list for a couple hundred issues. You have posted for a couple hundred issues now??? Fuck!!!! How do you do it? Seriously, post those guidelines so we can all follow them. I wanna reach the "couple hundred" mark, and without your guidance, I just don't think I could do it. and than the unhuman like attribute - >and I talk with him (Mark) in personal emails Hey, now. Wait a minute. How do you do that? You really are something special. Could you post his addy so the rest of us could all have a chance? than striking fear in the hearts of all subscribers (including myself) - >Believe me, Tammy, if I had wished to flame you, or anyone else, it would >have been much more explicit. There would be no doubt whatsoever that I >was whipping your ass. and than your "flame" - >"Just a suggestion" Tim, or Daniel, or whatever you call yourself: stay >the fuck away from southern Ontario if you value the use of your legs, >you stupid bloody idiot. Stop such vulgarity!!!! I can't take this "ass whipping"! Talk about explicit - the use of the words "stupid bloody idiot". Watch your mouth! We have some youngins on here! BTW - a comma would've been nice between stupid and bloody. But than who am I to correct grammar? >You're obviously a moron, so you'll probably have to look on a map to >find the place. It's in Canada. You know, that vast expanse of land to >the north of the USA. Oh, BTW, north is usually the "up" direction on a >map. Hey, thanks for the geography lesson. But did you really have to go and call me a moron? I mean, that hurts. Please refrain from such explicit vocabulary from now on. Or at least warn the kiddies that it will be in your post. We don't want them repeating those out loud. >Anyway, that's where I live, and if you get within a mile of me, I'm >gonna knock you out. Hey, I'm a thankful you told me that. I mean, I was seriously thinking of coming down to Canada, and now that I realize how badly you'd whip my ass, I reconsider. Oops!!! I meant "up" to Canada. I could of sworn it was south. Could you send me a map? I need visual aids. Thanks. >And don't even think of emailing me personally like you did last time; >keep all of your whining, juvenile comments to the Bible, where I can >respond or ignore them at my own leisure. Well, Mark just asked for the flaming to stop, and responding to or ignoring this would've been alot easier if I emailed you... But since you're a part of the "couple hundred" issues club, Mark has never had problems with any of your posts, and you really know what your talking about, I'll post it here. But only 'cause you said it was okay. Thanks for the O.K. I'd be lost without your approval. When are you gonna post your guidelines though? Any dissapprovals you might have could really fuck us up, and having rules to follow would ensure your happiness. So let us know, ASAP. Thank you. >THAT is a flame, Tammy. The urine begins to trickle down my leg, and than this helpful suggestion comes along - >Based on my previous experience with you, I think I know what you're >thinking. Don't even bother. Instead, do us both a favour and go play in >traffic. I decided to take your advice. But as I jumped in front of the speeding grey Volvo, I realized what I was doing was just not sane. I thought to myself, "Why risk my life for a fuckin' car?!? Instead, I'll fly up to southern Ontario, and let a human beat that shit out of me." (The more honorable way to go, if you ask me) So, I jumped out of the way, went back inside the house, and cried myself to sleep. I dreamed of one day affording the flight to southern Ontario, and the medical bills that will soon follow. Is there any way I could avoid this ass beating? Maybe I could just give you the money I would've spent on my hospital bills. Deal? Or maybe I should just stop posting to the Bible, in fear of your dissapproval. What do you think? Crossing his fingers in San Bernardino, Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 00:18:15 -0400 From: dirt Subject: Reality--PLEASE!! Feinds, First--let me say--I have enjoyed the new album. It's not the Misfits of old, but a progression that I like. Many of the songs are catchy ("Dig Up Her Bones", "Ressurection", "The Haunting"), and can compare to what the Misfits were releasing circa 1983. I like Glenn's music as well, but posts like the following make me cringe, and caused me to react: "anyone who has studied even a little poetry or literature ought to be able to see that Glenn was way above the heads in his day (the use of words like 'somnambulace' always left headbangers scratching their heads) how many of you knew what the pulmonary was when you first heard VAMPIRA? After I started with my major courses (British Modern Lit) I went back and re-read all of GD's lyrics and started STUDYING them, looking for the key to Danzig's style, for what made him so damn different and what I found is perhaps stating the obvious but DANZIG'S method of presenting horror is very abstract and in the majority of cases, the evil is implied not described, with a few exceptions. Consider: "With both eyes open, I wait up for the kill, feel the evil, feel the heat as I blast you open." That my friends, is poetry. And to pull it off and pull it off WELL is not easy. If the new Misfits were to use this idea for lyrics, it would probably go in this direction: "There's a bad guy Sitting up late at night,in a dark room with a gun, waiting for the person he's going to kill, he feels so evil inside, Now they're here and he's shooting them and it hurts them really bad." New Misfits lyrics merely describe-- tell a cute little story with dark words-- DANZIG PAINTED A PICTURE WITH ABSTRACT IMAGES AND (a lot bigger and better)WORDS THAT LET YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE REAL HORROR WAS. And most importantly-- look at this one-- WHEN DANZIG WRITES, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS FIRST PERSON-- DANZIG TAKES US INSIDE THE HEAD OF THE MONSTERS HE WRITES ABOUT. HE-- AND WE-- BECOME THE MONSTERS FOR A MOMENT AND SEE THROUGH THEIR EYES. Plain and simple Danzig was an artist and the 'fits were not." Hmm--not to toot my horn, but I have studied and written poetry for several years, and I don't think the Misfits (at any time) are an "adequate" source of poetry. Yes, Glenn may have had a better command of the language than others, but his lyrics couldn't even be considered relavant poetry of his day, or location. I've heard homeless beggers who write poetry better than Glenn Danzig--. But that isn't the point--if you want to here catchy--pop/punk--tunes listen to the Misfits. If you want to feel poetry then read the works of--Seamus Heaney, Dylan Thomas, Keats, Anne Sexton, Langston Hughes, or Amiri Baraka...just to name a few-- Also, to the person who decided to analyze these lyrics--you obviously have an interest in language--e-mail me--you have an interest in poetry and language, but you're directing it toward something that doesn't deserve your effort. --oh--and words like "somnabulance" mean nothing if your readers don't understand them--who cares if you know a big word for "sleep" when sleep may have made a more concise impact--hone your craft, and don't be impressed by lyricists. Nick (Dirt) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 10:25:44 +0000 From: Julian Baldry Subject: Camden Underworld show Camden Underworld, London, 19 May 1997: The Misfits play 'We Are 138' with The Prodigy's Giz Butt on guitar. Two of the coolest non-punk punk bands in history collide. (for UK readers) According to Doyle, the reason that AP was delayed for two weeks was because Geffen fucked up. The album was sent to all territories on time but the UK was overlooked... both Jerry and Doyle were extremely pissed about the whole thing. (for US readers) I don't know which chain it will be, but one chain of record stores will be carrying the American Psycho CD with fully autographed covers. > I won't say it's "metal" because any metal fan on here ought >to be able to admit that American metal is stale, not representative of >what's really going on in the genre, and pretty much sucks all around. Hmm, it appears you've never heard of KoRn... pretty much THE state of the art 'metal' band of the moment. >The music isn't that bad, but the titles blow goats (except for day of the >dead). One can only hope that was some kind of attempt at sarcasm. ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:17:12 -0500 Subject: Misfits Bible #336 MS>May 26th FREE CONCERT at TOMPKINS SQUARE PARK - NYC ! ! ! I will have to try to make it up to see you guys (and gal). MS>real MISFIT. Check out the version of BULLET, on LIVE SLAYER; or ATTITUDE MS>on EVENING OF DESIRE (sure, I can't sing near as well as Glenn, but You just have a different singing style than Glenn and so does Graves. I have to admit I do like all three of your sounds. While I do think they rushed the 'Fits new CD a bit and didn't get Graves possible best performance I think it's good and a real good CD. There aren't too many CD's that come out today that I can say I like all the tracks. I do like them all. As I once wrote in a song of mine "stop putting out that $hit.. think like me and make your tapes all hits, you put out tapes thinking they're gonna be a big seller.. but all I get is one decent song and the rest is all filler". MS>You're apparently a fairly smart guy. You're not going into this with MS>your eyes closed, and accepting it just because it's called THE MISFITS. -->$hit. There are some people out there, that I'm convinced would buy MS>anything called THE MISFITS even if it was just ROBO and BRIAN DAMAGE. There are. I can't see spending the money if it is really that baaad, unless you know 100% sure to go up in value for some odd reason. Hey, Bobby.. what is the Times Square web site addy again?! I lost it (didn't bookmark it) and wanna add a link to it on my web page. rabid doctor http://www.mindpulse.com/users/redrum ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:25:08 -0500 Subject: Misfits Bible #336 Replying to people from last bible: Whoever said this: MS>AMERICAN PSYCHO RULES, GLENN PURIST GO TO HELL. BOBBY STEELE IS, AS GLENN MS>SAID, IS AN A$SHOLE $UCKING $UNT. ANY BODY EVERY HERE THE BOOBY STEELE MS>VERSION OF TEENAGERS FROM MARS??I DID. MS> I WENT LIKE THIS""BOBBY STEELE IS AN A$SHOLE $UCKING $UNT,JUST A LITTLE -->$UCKING $UNT"" IS QUOTE THEEM. I have that CD. Kill Your Baby Today bootleg for sale. Email me if you want. Whoever said this: MS>Just went to the Princeton Record Exchange in Princeton, NJ. I MS>picked up the limited edition Heavy Vinyl edition of American Psycho MS>for $10. They had 3 or 4 copies left. Dead Kings Rise isn't that MS>good of a song. The huge picture of Doyle is worth it though. Also MS>picked up vinyl for Earth AD. Just the regular old 3rd press. Down on route 1 in East Brunswick, I forget the record store, but he had Bullet on red vinyl for $65. He says when they get in 'fits vinyl it usually goes fast. rabid doctor http://www.mindpulse.com/users/redrum ------------------------------ From: rabid.doctor@mindpulse.com Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:28:24 -0500 Subject: Misfits Bible #336 MS>that matter Walk Amoung us? Hell no! This album contains material written MS>some 13-15 years AFTER the last Misfits album. (New material of course) MS>Credit Jerry, and Doyle Von Whatever for musical evolution and growth. They MS>still kick ass, but now they can play much better. Why would you force MS>someone to remain stagnant? Are they not allowed to grow? Does being a MS>fiend give us special privlages to keep our "heros" static? No. That always seems the way. People get popular, a lot of people stop liking them (or atleast their new material), but at the same time they gain a lot more other fans too. I don't mean to compair, but DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince grew up more, their sound changed. My friend didn't like him, but I still did and some other people I know were now listening to him. rabid doctor http://www.mindpulse.com/users/redrum ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 17:05:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Russ... but probably Bryan" Subject: Reviewers Shut Up Will you people stop with the damned American Psycho reviews? Your page-and-a-half long review is not going to influence anybody. There's been so many mixed reviews already that anyone who hasn't heard the album yet is confused with all the different opinions and is going to listen to it themselves to find out if it sucks or not. God knows how many of you decided to share your cutesy little opinions with us last bible. What if all 1200+ of us decided that the world should know our opinion on the new album? Unless you have something poignant or unique, like the dude who talked about the subtlety of the old Misfits, or are an angry little twelve year old pissed off at the world because you're the only kid on your block who hasn't grown any pubes yet, shut it. P.S. Please don't retaliate. I'm gentile and fragile. ------------------------------ From: SHEENA138@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Opinions are like... Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one! Here is ours: American psycho rocks! The way we see it the band had to evolve, if they had stayed the same since 1983 it would be flat out weird. It was't like they were cryogenically frozen,you would have to expect something to come from 14 years of practice. Without the help of Glenn we expected the worst, but the band has much improved and Michale was a lot better than expected. The album has a quality of the later Ramones albums (possibly Daniel Rey influenced). On the megan/terri scale, we give it 3 chords out of 3. And to the guy with the Reduce, Recycle, Reuse coments haven't you been paying attention for the past 20 years. Megan and Terri P.S: Does anyone know why the song Shining seems to be about Poltergeist? ------------------------------ From: Fistem138@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 23:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #336 Did anyone think that it was gonna be better without glenn, I think AP kicks serious ass ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 02:58:10 +0000 From: scooter Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #336 AZWODNY OR WHATEVER: you come off like some kind of expert - but i just want you to know i think youre an idiot . Fuck you --- if you dont like the misfits then get the fuck off this mailing list. why down a band youre supposed to like? if you dont like them - get the fuck out of here, these arent the misfits of 15 years ago so wake up and realize what were dealing with now and either dig it or get the fuck out. i for one wont miss you! i personally think the new misfits are every bit as good as the old if not better. if you dont agree --- find some vintage mailing list and subbscribe to THAT. ------------------------------ From: InkGrafic@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Demonspeed Just thought I'd mention this band. I was writing up band profiles for the upcoming Mid-Atlantic Sound Surf and Skate Symposium sponsored by JUICE magazine and reviewed a demo from a band called Demonspeed. Very Danzigesque. Kinda bluesy at times, a touch of rockabilly, much hardcore, but the singer sounds like the Evil Elvis in a way that cannot be described. I think they're from NYC. Speaking of demos, I also got to check out the new demo from Stealth, Daryl Jenifer's (bass player for the Bad Brains) new band. They describe themselves as ghetto metal and sound like the Bad Brains with a heavy hip hop infusion. Check 'em out. Jeff @ JUICE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:38:19 -0400 From: "J." Okay, explain this. >The reason I say this is because the new misfits aren't the old misfits. Then in the same post, Einstein says, >the misfits are back Where is you're logic?!?!? These aren't the Misfits, yet they are back?!?! Well you got me stumped. Does anyone notice Micheal Graves sounds like the Barenaked Ladies singer at times? Just listen closely. I can't remember what songs. Cheers J. ------------------------------ From: TBONE00@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 12:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!! WHAT'S THIS ABOUT CRUE GETTING CHASED BY THE MISFITS......NEVER HAPPENED!! TOMMY LEE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:32:50 -0400 From: Jonathan Morse Subject: Decline of the Western Civilization. Greetings. I was wondering if perhaps any of you subscribers had an idea of where I would be able to purchase a copy of the Decline of the Western Civilization documentary. I know this has nothing to do with the 'fits, but being that it is of punk rock colour, I was simply wondering if any of you fiends could help. --JM-- ------------------------------ From: Wolfer777@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: AP < Subject: Sorry About the New Album Down with the new album down i say burn it, ban it, get danzig back or ill kill Doyle Von Dumfuckstein...>> Good luck go ahead try it then he can rip you apart and feed it to his dogs. Ok we dont need 1000000 fuckin reviews we had a few from the people from the promo but now anyone can get it so there is no need for more reviews. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:44:51 PST Subject: American Psycho ROCKS!!! From: Mark S Pennington i got american psycho last Wednesday and i would like to say one thing THIS THING KICKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ok, i lied, i'm gonna say a few more things... this album is so amazing, honestly i didn't think the new misfits would even come close to the new Misfits, i was wrong, this album is almost as good as Walk Among Us and Earth AD. So far, my favorite songs are Walk Among Us, Dig up Her Bones and Shining and my least favorite is Mars Attacks, i LOVE the whole album though. As for Michale Graves voice, it kicks ass and it's great that he decided to use his own voice instead of a Glenn impersonation. Doyle's guitar playing has improved a lot since 1983 and Dr. Chud is a great drummer. Jerry is still the great bass player he always was and he has improved a little. The thing that hit me the first time i listened to the album was the great production, you can hear everything clearly. If you haven't bought this album yet because of the people that didn't like the advance tape or Glenn isn't in the band or whatever, i suggest you do so NOW. -ins@ne ------------------------------ From: al_simmons6@mail.geocities.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:58:19 +0000 Subject: for sale here's what i have: Misfits: Collection I Collection II [green] Wolfsblood/Earth AD [german issue] Earth AD/Wolfsblood [black] Legacy of Brutality [white] Die Die My Darling Evilive [green] Samhain: November Coming Fire [orange] Last Gasp 7" boot Danzig 4p [first press] I also have other punk and rap vinyl including: gg allin, Meatmen, Wu-Tang Clan, White Flag, Necros.....e-mail me to make offers or request a list...thanks Pat Reagan al_simmons6@mail.geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/area51/vault/6387 ------------------------------ From: Misfitmole@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Times Square/Squiggy show, Chyna Hello... Times Square and Squiggy will be playing together Saturday, June 28th at the Franklin American Legion in Franklin, NJ. Steve Zing has also committed to doing the show, but what band he'll be performing with is still up in the air. Speaking of Steve, one of his band's, Chyna, will be playing on WFMU (91.1) on June 19th. As far as Squiggy, we have a new seven-inch out on Headache Records called "Anti-Establishment", and we're playing at WFMU on May 29th. For more info. on the June 28th show, e-mail me at Misfitmole@aol.com. Cheers, Joel from Squiggy/ RTS Promotions ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 01:16:42 -0400 From: DOYLE Subject: News A few weeks ago I put out a calling for Misfits bootlegs to make a "MEGA-COMPILAION" bootleg and didn't get a big enough turn out so any one who sends me a bootlegs tape or CD to use will get a free copy of this album. A fellow fiend has designed a case for it and I have not yet had a chance to seee it but from what he describes it is quite cool. Here are prices: 1 tape- $5.00 each additional tape after that- $3.00 2 tapes(if I have enough to fil 180 minutes) will be $7.00 a set and $4.00 each additional set. SEND TAPES TO: DOYLE PO BOX 303 WRENTHAM, MA 02093 email: duffmckagan@geocities.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 22:05:58 -0400 From: "]RaZoR[" Subject: Michale Graves i know this may sound like sacrilege to the total hardcore fiends, but i like Graves better than Danzig. He can hold a note better, and he looks a hell of alot cooler.does he have an email or anything? -- = ________________________________ I choose to live and to Lie, kill and give and to Die, learn and love and to Do what it takes to step through -TooL: Forty-Six & 2 from =C6nema ________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Fama Subject: MB WARNING: THIS MESSAGE IS ALSO LONG, BUT ITS CONTENT IS LESS LIKELY TO ANTAGONIZE SUBSCRIBERS. > From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) > I'm talking about being the only MISFIT that was doing anything to keep > it alive. All through the 80's Jerry and Glenn were either refusing to Again, Glenn DID talk about the Misfits during the 1980s; although he usually denounced the *other* members of the band, or said how the band was limiting to what he wanted to do. > knew you could go to a show and expect to hear MISFITS songs, played by a > real MISFIT. Check out the version of BULLET, on LIVE SLAYER; or ATTITUDE Again, again: Samhain "covered" three Misfits' songs on albums, and both Samhain and Danzig played live Misfits on a regular basis, throughout the 1980s (which is the time period to which you applied your statement). > that's another story). As far as METALLICA goes; I've never played down > their contribution either. I even thanked Kirk when I met him > a few years ago. I believe it was in RIP, where Glenn totally dissed > MEtallica and claimed that they had nothing to do with the major interest ? Could you give a reference for that issue? (I'm not doubting your word, I just don't think I've seen that article -- unless, as I suspect, you've exaggerated what he said). > in the FITS. I've also never had such "delusions of grandeur" as to say > that METALLICA and BON JOVI ripped me off - as (ho)MO THE GREAT has said There is certainly no argument from me on that point. Jerry was really nice when I met him, but does he SERIOUSLY believe that Bon Jovi was reading the Doyle Fan-club's newsletters? Beside, the phrase "keep the faith" was hardly an invention of either of theirs'. > Need i remind you of a DOYLE FAN CLUB letter that Jerry once mailed out; > berating, rudely, fiends for annoying him with questions regarding where > the stuff they had sent him money for was, and why they hadn't recieved > it. It's a pretty harsh statement. There's also another letter that I > still don't have in my collection; where he tells about how the KRYST Cd > was a failure "because YOU, our fans, didn't support us". ?? > Seems to me that they loved WALK AMONG US. I seem to recall them saying > that Glenn was the best singer in Rockn'roll since Jim Morrison. And that > was in '82. '82, or when the reissue came out in 1987? It seems surprising that Rolling Stone would have paid attention to the Misfits then. > I got hold of that guy, and he got a lot of flack for panning the record. > Not for the reason you'd suspect . . . because he offended an advertiser. > You're not allowed to pan a major label record at ROLLING STONE. The > labels threaten to withdraw "big bux advertising". Covert censorship, as GD calls it. That's disgusting. I don't much care personally, but anyone who reads Rolling Stone or cares enough about it should complain about this. If these record companies can threaten such action, how can anyone who buys the magazine expect an honest review? R.S. can always find someone who does like a given record to write a review, if their regular reviewer writes a bad one. Then again, if anyone does write them about this, they'd probably ignore or deny it. That also puts artists on smaller labels at a disadvantage. > >From: HORRORKID > >the misfits?? why not just come up with a new name and put a featuring > >doyle and jerry only from the misfits sticke on it like they did with > >Kryst.. > EXACTLY ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! They could have done that, but obviously far fewer people would have taken notice without the name "the Misfits." > From: MK [Brian Damage's "long-time companion."] > From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com > or "The Pope vs the Mole People?" ... puhleeze.... One very cool lyric > though .. "Death holds you in it's arms, and kisses you goodnight" .... I > love that one from the Haunting! And Jerry was complaining that Bon Jovi's song titles sound too much like his? That line above sounds similar to "Death...In Its Arms."H > Some Samhain reunion news .. Mark was wrong, there will be a reunion, its > gonna be me, Packy Vomit and Mike Otrock. Though none of us were in Samhain, > we are going to take the name and start playing the songs and go on tour > and release some albums. We figure, everyone else is doing it, why cant we? Because Glenn Danzig, who owns the rights to the name and recordings of the band "Samhain", will sue you. > Hey "hate breader " please put some sort of > punctuation in those sentences .. your parents will love ya for it. Finally, someone who appreciates the BASICS of english communication. > From: William Bartilson Jr > Ok, to all you twits who are trashing the Misfits for changing > trheir sound, SO WHAT??!!! Does Danzig 5 sound like Danzig 1? No. Danzig 5 > sux! Danzig one was (is) great. Glenn has evolved in to a lower grade of > songwritter, in my opinion. Does Earth A.D. sound like Static Age, or for > that matter Walk Amoung us? Hell no! This album contains material written > some 13-15 years AFTER the last Misfits album. (New material of course) > Credit Jerry, and Doyle Von Whatever for musical evolution and growth. They > still kick ass, but now they can play much better. Why would you force > someone to remain stagnant? Are they not allowed to grow? Does being a > fiend give us special privlages to keep our "heros" static? No. That is seemingly a logical argument, except the current Misfits cannot have grown as songwriters or developed their current style from the old styles ("evolution" as you call it) because the current Misfits did not write the old songs. Also, the comparison with Danzig doesn't work, for three reasons: 1) There has been only one songwriter from Danzig's inception to its current state, unlike in the case of the old vs. new Misfits; 2) The songwriting on Danzig 5 is really no different than that used on the previous albums; the sound/style difference comes mainly in the recording, engineering, and production stages. (If you don't know what I mean, just ignore the way the album sounds, but compare the lyrics and song structures used on 5 to those on old Danzig, Samhain, and even Misfits songs -- they are virtually the same). 3) Danzig 5 is a great album, far better than Danzig "1." [Sorry, I love that album, but if I have any of the other 4 later ones with me, I can barely stomach listening to it.] > Face it, we all love to talk about "We Are 138", but that and "RATT > FINK" have to be some of the stupidest lyrics ever written. All of EAD is Two songs out of several dozen. "138" lyrics aren't that stupid, they're just...simple. As for "Rat Fink", none of the Misfits wrote that song. > From: billy vile > to the guy who bitched at me because i said danzigs first album got > one star... what the hell am i thinking of? one of them got one > star... i though it was III that got the 3 1/2... anyway what does it I don't remember what Danzig III got as far as stars go, but the content of the review was decidely worse than the one given for the first album. In the review for III, they called Glenn a "comic-collecting nerd" and poked fun at some of the songs' lyrics. Or maybe that ws Spin...anyway, both mags made fun of Glenn and III. > From: Matthew Richards You see, this is what I was talking abut a few issues ago. Matthew's comments about American Psycho were organized and intelligent, rather than those comments of many others. He told us exactly why he thought what he did of the album and the new lineup. Even if you disagree with his analysis, you must admit it was FAR better than stupid, unintelligent, completely useless posts that say "anyone who loves/hates the new album sucks!" or "the Misfits rule/suck without Glenn!" > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Okay; Tammy - as regards our whole little war lately, I think we've pretty much cleared it up between ourselves, so I'll pass on picking apart your post. I honestly don't think that more than a small handful of subscribers were interested in it anyway, since only 2 or 3 even commented on it. But, there is just one last thing... > By the way you do come off sounding sarcastic, and what does me proving > what lyrics i have beyond the boxset have to do with what you are going on > about. like its a shock that someone might have something you don't > know about, Again, you misunderstood: I AM often sarcastic, but as I PAINFULLY tried to tell you, I was not trying to call your bluff or whatever. I was not challenging you to prove what you own, I was *sincerely* asking you to post whatever lyrics or ideas that you do/did/might have. If there are none, then fine. The reason I asked is because, as I said in the first place, many of the EAD/WB lyrics in the boxset are WRONG -- and I want to find out the real ones. -Brett ------------------------------ From: Dean975@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: whats up I would like to post to our immortal MISFITS BIBLE. I am a new member to this Misfits Bible and would like to see it survive. Some info on me... name Dean Barmore age 18 6/6/78 lives: Atl GA fav bands, misfits/samhain/danzig white zombie, slayer ozzy sabbath pantera fav danzig song....hmmm a toughie..I would say Twist of Cain and Devils Plaything fav misfits... Die Die Darling and Blacklight (all good) fav samhain...November Coming Fire, To walk the night I would like to meet and chat to my fellow FIENDS. If youre on AOL email to DEAN975 if youre on another server, well I guess you know how to send mail LOL later Snakes of Christ Dean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:53:06 -0400 From: Xdisco infernoX Subject: a sighting Did you ever see the movie MASQUE (I think that's how it's spelled) with Cher? Well her and her son's house number is 138. "Moustache rides." Kevin xxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 00:14:38 -0400 From: Xdisco infernoX Subject: a sighting part two So like did you ever see that movie MASQUE (I think that's how it's spelled)? I already asked that right? Well the kid's locker number is... 138. "moustache rides" Kevin xxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:28:13 -0700 From: ahren Subject: words for lycanthro13 You really managed to piss me off. I knew what somnambulance meant-ever see The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari? I am also quite sure most people know what the pulmonary is, or at least know it a vein or artery or sumthin. And, I'm sorry, Danzig just ain't the great songwriter you make him out to be. All in all, we(MB readers) are all now dumber for having read your post last issue. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 22:19:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: Danzig and horse racing..... The 1986 Belmont Stakes winner was a horse named "Danzig Connection". No shit. There is also a horse currently racing called "Blushing Danzig", from Illinois. Another horse called "Misfit" is ranked 7th in the current American Championship Harness Series. I know that nobody cares, but I was busting up when I found all of this searching on AOL for news about the bands. I don't know shit about horse racing, but this was cool. -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:05:47 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Descendents Went to see the Descendents/Less Than Jake 'Caffeine Nation' tour last night. DO NOT miss this tour when it come to your town. Just to see Bill Stephenson and Milo sharing the stage is worth it. Plus there was information saying that all the shows on this tour are only $10. The Descendents went way back in their discography and played songs from all their past albums including My Dad Sucks, Clean Sheets, Wienerschintzel, Catalina, I Like Food; new songs Everything Sucks, I'm the One, and Thank You. They even did some ALL songs like Fool. Last tour they did some Black Flag songs as an encore, but not this time around. OK, Misfits sighting at the show. I was wearing my yellow 'SECURITY' shirt from the Vernon show last Summer, the sound system played 'Where Eagles Dare' and I was singing along. Some chick in the balcony saw me and I saw her, and she gave me the 'devil sign' (like in the inner cover of American Psycho). This same chick, couldn't have been more than 17 years old, kept flashing the band Guttermouth. The lead singer finally said, "We're gonna donate the $100 we make tonight to get you some implants". Needless to say, she kept her breasts to herself the rest of the show. Second sighting. After the show, the club was showing videos on TVs. There was an Unsane one, a 'new' Sex Pistols, and then they showed the unedited 'It's Coming Down' with the pierced dick and all. The guy being lead around by his johnson was awsome. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 16:27:29 +0100 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST in NYC Note: Our set TONITE (friday!) at CBGB's has been changed to 8:30 p.m. Friday, May 23, 8:30 p.m. ADAM WEST CBGBs 315 Bowery in NYC -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * e-mail: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- End of filtered message -- ------------------------------ From: "Thomas J. Yusko" Subject: stuff I went to pick up my copy of the new album at Reptillian Recs. in Baltimore on Tues., and they didn't have it because of the high price since it's on Geffen. What happened though was that Chris gave me the square poster of the cover of the album with a picture of Doyle on the back that said "Scream until you die!" and Misfits, American Psycho. He also gave me a long and thin(I don't have a ruler with me) poster. The bottom says Misfits American Psycho and a picture of the album cover, but the top has these 4 great, intimidating face shots of each of the guys(Michelle has the Crimson Ghost make-up on). It's an awesome Geffen promo poster and I was wondering if anybody knows what I'm talking about? Later, Thom Schismatic ------------------------------ From: ADAMEMO@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: stuff for sale Punk related items for sale T-SHIRTS -------------- Less Than Jake - ãlosing streakä, ringer t-shirt, never worn, size X-L $7.00 Misfits - ãDoyleä black t-shirt, worn 3(?) times, size X-L $5.00 Samhain - ãNovember Coming Fireä black t-shirt, worn 5(?) times, size X-L $5.00 Danzig - ã4Pä t-shirt, black, ok condition, size X-L, $4.00 CASSETTES ----------------------- Spring Heeled Jack - ãConnecticut Skaä demo, 1993, $3.00 Sgt. Scagnatti - ãvs. the Armies of Darknessä cassette, 1996, $3.00 7ä RECORDS -------------------- Boys Life/Vitreous Humor split 7ä, Crank! Records, $3.00 Sinkhole ãDonkeyä 7ä, Ringing Ear Records, $3.00 Parasites/Mourning Noise split 7ä, Mourning Noise has ex-SAMHAIN members in it, $5.00 Buglite ãThe Marcia Brady Fan Clubä 7ä, Creep Records, $3.00 Parasites ãLetdown/Reason For Treasonä 7ä, Shredder Records, $3.00 The Undead ãThereâs a Riot in Tompkins Squareä 7ä, Post Moretm Records, $4.00 The Undead ãVerbal Abuseä 7ä, signed by Bobby Steele, 1983, Post Mortem Records, $6.00 12ä RECORDS ------------------------ Parasites ãPairä 12ä, spanish pressing on Munster Records, $10.00 The Undead ãAct Your Rageä 12ä, blue swirled vinyl, signed by Bobby Steele, signature is slightly smeared, $7.00 The Misfits ãEarth A.D/Wolfsbloodä 12ä, black vinyl, Plan 9 Records, Caroline Records, no UPC code, signed by Jerry Only and Doyle, both signatues are slightly smeared though, $10.00 The Misfits ãEviliveä 12ä, black vinyl, Plan 9, Caroline Records, no UPC code, repress I believe, $8.00 The Misfits ãLive night of the living dead!ä 12ä, bootleg, first pressing, black vinyl, signed by Jerry Only and Doyle, one corner is slightly bent, $20.00 The Misfits ãBewareä 12ä, bootleg, red vinyl, made in UK, $20.00 Samhain ãInitiumä 12ä, Plan 9 Records, Caroline Records, no UPC code, sleeve is in ok condition, $8.00 Samhain ãNovember Coming Fireä 12ä, Plan 9 Records, Caroline Records, no UPC code, great condition, $10.00 THIS STUFF IS MOSTLY MISFITS RELATED COLLECTABLES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Misfits ãLive! 79 The Perfect Crime!ä sticker, signed by Bobby Steele $4.00 Danzig - autographed ticket stub from show in Red Bank, NJ, 4/26/95, signed by Glenn Danzig C.H.U.D. video, on BETA, (yes, the 80âs horror flic!) signed by Dr. Chud $3.00 A personal letter written to me from Eerie Von, in 1990(?), regarding the DANZIG fan club, written on DANZIG letterhead, $3.00 Maximum Rocknroll magazine, #151, Part 1, Misfits Interview with Jerry Only, $3.00 Ugly Things Magazine, #12, Misfits interview with Jerry Only, $5.00 Ugly Things Magazine, #13, great Misfits article, $5.00 Ugly Things Magazine, #14, great Misfits article, $5.00 Misfits Photocopy Packet #1 - this is a 30 or so page collection of photocopied Misfits flyers, discographies, reviews, bootleg art, magazine interviews, and EVERYTHING you could EVER want to know about your favorite horror band!, $3.00 Misfits Photocopy Packet #2 - this is a 30 or so page collection of photocopied Misfits flyers, discographies, reviews, bootleg art, magazine interviews, and EVERYTHING you could EVER want to know about your favorite horror band!, $3.00 Misfits Photocopy Packet #3 - this is a 30 or so page collection of photocopied Misfits flyers, discographies, reviews, bootleg art, magazine interviews, and EVERYTHING you could EVER want to know about your favorite horror band!, $3.00 Misfits Photocopy Packet #4 - this is a 30 or so page collection of photocopied Misfits flyers, discographies, reviews, bootleg art, magazine interviews, and EVERYTHING you could EVER want to know about your favorite horror band!, $3.00 EACH PHOTOCOPY PACKET IS DIFFERENT, AND I WILL SELL ALL 4 FOR $10.00 COMICS ------------ VEROTIK comics Jaguar God #2 $2.00 Sunglasses After dark #1 $2.00 Verotika #5 #2.00 Satanika #3 $2.00 Devilman #1 $2.00 Verotika #6 $2.00 Satanika #2 $2.00 Sunglasses After dark #1/2 $2.00 G.O.T.H. #1 $2.00 Devilman #2 $2.00 Igrat #1 $2.00 RATFINK comics Ratfink - 3-D comics, #6 $2.00 Rat Fink Comix #2 $2.00 ---------------------------------------------------------------- this shit is first come first serve!! so hurry it up kiddies! e-mail all questions and/or reservations to ADAMEMO@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Citizentre@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 02:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #336 i just got a import called demonamania club it kicks serious ass it has three concerts on it and pretty good sound anyone interested in trading tapes of concerts with me i also have live nigth of the living dead which brings up a question it is a limited press of 1000 can some one tell me where it is numbered? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 01:36:29 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Back to the fiendly stuff... Hello fiends... First i would like to apologize for taking all the bible space up on this mess that Brett and I got into. Also we have come to a truce via e-mail and it will not be on the bible again. Bobby, you have all the luck! Obviously i am not the one Blag wants and why, cause he wants you! Boo Hoo Boo Hoo Boo Hoo ;) Oh, I wanted to add to Marino's post about the Princeton Record Exchange, they are on the internet if you don't live in NJ and would like to know what they have. Misfits 101, still trading... Well you don't have a lot of money, you want to get some Misfits originals. Someone offers to do a trade with you or you see a fiends say " i'll trade a Beware, make me an offer." What do you do? Other than talk to this guy and find out what he is interested in trade wise. Where do you get the records he wants? For years of trading i have found most of my trade items at local record stores and Record conventions. I can not emphasize this enough. That if you want to get trade items for cheap you have to search them out. My shitty luck was for years i always found what everyone else wanted and not what i needed, ie Misfits stuff. So i put that to good use, and would trade or auction off other records to get what i needed for my collection. Though i knew i could find some great stuff by ordering out of catalogs or looking through ads in MRR, FLipside and Goldmine. Though i always found my cheap stuff at Y & T records. I have known the owner for 13 years now and he knew what i was doing with those records. But he still sold them to me for anywhere from $1 - 8 depending on what it was and if it was used or new. A lot of these local places do not know what they have or the value of punk or hardcore. so you get away with paying $4 for a record that is worth $70 - 80. At record cons you can bargain, which makes it even more fun. The piece i got last weekend i know what it was worth when i saw it. but it would not be the same if i did not do a little bargaining. Though i should warn you there are some dealers that will get pissed when you try to bargain. I got one nut case this weekend that did not like dealing with people who looked young. I knew what i was about to get myself into before i made him an offer on this record, though i could not help wanting to give it a shot. Boy did he rip in to me. Though the guy before me got it even worse and got into a shouting match. The whole point is trying to find trade items. Best bet is find out what the other person wants. plus make sure you have a deal before buying it if its a pricey item. the last thing you want to do is get stuck with a record you don't want and had to drop $50 for. Though i would suggest that for those of you just starting out to start low before you get into the major trades. Don't just jump into a trade for a Cough/Cool or Beware or any of the ultra rare items. That takes a lot of work and what you are giving for the trade is not going to be some weenie $20 value record. Unless the person is plain stupid. My friend that i traded with for the White Three Hits is far from stupid, though he should not have demanded to trade when he was drunk. Though i was very happy to hand over $30 and three SST 12"s i paid $3 each for. Start off easy with a green vinyl Evilive, or first press black Earth ADs, Samhain Initium, Unholy Passion. so you learn all the fine art of trade talk, and dealing with others. plus the skills of not getting screwed. Then you can head on to the 7"s. Its just that trading for a Cough/Cool or any item on that level means you have to come up with a major piece. And i you don't know your major pieces of non Misfis vinyl than you will not have a trade. well more on Friday, with trading Misfits 101 style. Also the list of Record conventions for this weekend. And if you live down here where i do, you are screwed till August at this point. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: bible@plan-9.com mailto:bible@plan-9.com (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: fiend@plan-9.com For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://misfits.plan-9.com/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://misfits.plan-9.com/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Misfits Bible, Number 338 Friday, May 23rd 1997 Today's Topics: Fiends "No Glenn No Misfits!" "SOME FIENDS DONT GET IT!!!" all this and heaven too.... all things considered Bible Entry AP Vinyl Re: Misfits Bible, #337 DIG UP HER BONES AP/cd/etc Times Square/Chyna/Squiggy show update posts come ripping bible post IMO Long Winded MF what are they about?? Get along Re: Misfits Bible, #337 booby, thats right booby steele bible entry Sardonica Re: Misfits Bible, #337 Fiends OOPS! Re: Misfits Bible, #337 What really happened between Motley Crue, The Misfits, and METALFITS??? Different poster in AP resurrection t-shirt and goofed lyrics Bleeders Diegest Crimson Ghost Masks Exist!!!! MISFITS FANS READ THIS!!! Persephone Smokes The Devil's Herb AKA REEFER MADNESS Just another day for Misfits 101... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 15:30:47 -0400 From: MK Subject: Fiends In the future, please send bible posts to: bible@plan-9.com Please stop using the misfits@virginia.edu - it will be cancelled soon. Thanks Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:41:02 -0400 Subject: "No Glenn No Misfits!" From: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu! Well I bought the new Misfits album even after reading the bad reviews from fiend club members. After I heard the first few songs i heard the first riff of skulls, I was like yeah finally this might be kinda good ,then to my dissapointment the song was changed around. Well I think this CD was a valiant effort by the so called misfits. All I think is that they shouldn't call their selves the Misfits, they should at least say the new misfits or something like that, because they definantly aren't the MISFITS of old. So I say No Glenn No MiSFiTS, i was also wondering if glenn Had heard the new album I wonder what he thinks about it?Oh well....from hell they came? Confused, (Kan'tspell) ------------------------------ From: crypt33@ldd.net Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 18:21:51 -0400 Subject: "SOME FIENDS DONT GET IT!!!" Greetings hellhounds... It's really kinda sad... some Fiends don't "understand" the new album... let's go over some stuff point-by point.... 1.the cover painting: don't you guys know who Basil Gogos is!?! he did MANY covers 4 Famous Monsters of Filmland, and his stuff is CLASSIC, American Psycho cover included...a better cover their could not be... remember, folks...B-movies and monster magazines=MISFITS!!! tho cover is a loving homage to all the time we spent under the covers reading FMoF and Fangoria! 2.Crimson Ghost and Mars Attacks=cheesy:NOT!!these songs seem to me to be kewl tributes to those films (& the mars attacks trading cards of old)... particularly neat-o to me are the mars attacks lyrics...they are written to imitate those old coming-attraction trailers...SEE: the fire in the skies...SEE:them devestate the land... anyone seriously into horror films KNOWS what I'm talkin' about... 3.bad lyrics\melodies: ease off a little here...THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY A NEW BAND... as time wears on, they will grow and learn...becoming a tight unit takes time... 4."God" in the lyrics:this is a failure by some Fiends to understand irony or satire...read the songs more closely.. 5."Michael sounds like(insert singer here)...": see #3...maturity and an individual style comes from familiarity and practice.. 6.Doyle Wolfgang von Frankenstein: i'm not sure as to the Why's, but I thought it was funny as hell!!! In any case, I still love the Misfits! The new album is excellent...good work, guys... crypt33@ldd.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 18:31:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Woh-Oh! Here comes the dead Subject: all this and heaven too.... to whom it may concern: At last we can end this debate. I asked my magic 8 ball if American Psycho was good and it said, "Yes, definitely". ...and by the way Grandpa Atomic, WHY, WHY, OH GOD WHY!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!! Leah ps--get off my back I already sent michale's tastylicious pic to Liz, that bad little scamp! Liz, sorry about the teeth marks all over it but I just can't help myself sometimes. You know how it is. ------------------------------ From: sixsins@globalserve.net Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:29:37 -0400 Subject: um... to bob dansby: You said >AMERICAN PSYCHO RULES, GLENN PURIST GO TO HELL. BOBBY STEELE IS, AS GLENN >SAID, IS AN ASSHOLE FUCKING CUNT. ANY BODY EVERY HERE THE BOOBY STEELE >VERSION OF TEENAGERS FROM MARS??I DID. > I WENT LIKE THIS""BOBBY STEELE IS AN ASSHOLE FUCKING CUNT,JUST A LITTLE >FUCKING CUNT"" IS QUOTE THEEM. You're stupid. No really you are. Do you really expect people to take you seriously? You come across like a 13 year old angst ridden wannabe punker than fuck loser. You can't spell, you can't string together a few proper sentences, and the way you express your opinions is totally unintelligent and will only result in others stooping to your level for the mere purpose of insulting you back. It is obvious that your opinions are not going to be shared by everyone, I almost think you said somethings just because you knew people would argue it. I disagree with everything you say....except for the bit about american psycho being a good album. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:09:08 -0400 From: "M.A. Correz" Subject: all things considered Hey fiends! I have been listening to (or rather reading) all the different opinions about American Psycho. I see that some love and some hate. well, it took me exactly one weekend to form this simple opinion: "gee, that's swell" I guess initially forced myself to reject it, for not being "old school" (whatever that means anymore?!?) but it really grows on you. It's almost totally meaningless, no heavy politics, no goofy save the whales messages. just simple creepy fun. in any case, I assume that some wil continue to love and some will continue to hate. I read a review by a music critic who said it was like a bad trip through the horror section at your local video store ... I guess that's somewhat accurate ... and I really like it that way. -- "He doesn't want anything ... he's insane." -Frank Black M i l l e n n i u M ____________________________________________ User ID: M.A. Correz Key fingerprint =0F 4D EC F8 25 C6 36 FE 39 59 DC BC 76 58 3E 59 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:08:55 -0400 From: Dick Tate Subject: Bible Entry >Glenn Danzig was/is the Misfits. I agree. As much as i do love the fits, < and i do like the new album, a tad bit disappointing though > Its not the real fits, and wont be till glenn comes back < if that ever happens > http://www.usaor.net/users/dictater ------------------------------ Date: Wed May 21 19:21:38 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: AP Vinyl Hey I must say, the American Psycho vinyl packaging is nicer than the CD! Though I think "heavy vinyl" is a load of shit. If you've ever had a REALLY heavy pressing you'll know what i mean. 180g or whatever. I'm still not gonna buy it. A friend of mine is sending a CD promo with no cover. That's how little I care (and I own about 15 misfits vinyl pieces.) Anyhoo I'd love to see Danzig go in the Samhain direction again. He doesn't HAVE to reform Sam Hain ;), cauze he's got good players now (maybe a new guitarist or Dan Zig can play himself). He