Misfits Bible, Number 31 Tuesday, November 15th 1994 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #30 Re: Creepshow m'fits 30 fave albums and shithouse paper article Re: Misfits Bible, #30 Favorite albums Re: Misfits Bible, #30 FIVE TIMES danzig shows fiend club ep bootleg vid Peter Steele/Danzig mailing list ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MISFIT20@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:25:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #30 OK, i guess i'll put in my 2 cents worth age-16 (anyone younger?) people i know on the list-Geoff We@sel (mostly onnacounta hes my brother), cternes@aol.com ( I told him 'bout the list) any other q's? --The Misfit ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Creepshow Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 14:25:09 EST According to Cternes: > > Anyone have any info on the album 'Creepshow'? I guess it was released in > 1989, and is the FINAL Misfits release. > > Chris There is no such album. The final Misfits release was the best of LP and even that's not the final one since there are more on the way. There is 7" EP bootleg on blue vinyl called Creepshow but I don't know when that came out. EVB can probably help us here.... Mark ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:32:27 -0500 Subject: m'fits 30 as far as fav albums go: M'fits - Walk among us or Evilive (can't decide) S'hain - They all suck D'zig - 4p or HTGK (can't decide) In 'Fit's #30 wrote: >Heya, Crimsy, too bad you hated Sadistikal. I thought it was the best >thing on the album. But then you hated Samhain, too, right? Obviously a >fundamental difference in taste there. >But I agree that the Satanic crap is laid on a little thick. Personally, >I am an atheist (bordering on objectivist) so I find humor in just about >anything that scares anyone with a mystical point of view. Thing is, >Glenn actually _believes_ in God and Satan. Hey teevie :-) no offense meant, just because you like it dosn't mean that *you* are an ass hole. It just means that I *personally* think it's shit. Personally, I'm an "Non-Praticing Orthodox Atheist" I respect all religions, and study them quite a bit. I tend to know more about the bible than the average "bible thumping evangelist." the reason I object to the satanism shit is easy. It's a marketing ploy aimed at little kids, the 13 -> 16 year old group. I'm 28 and I, drove my parents nuts at that age. But really, all this music does is give kids stupid ideas, and they go out and break mailboxes and fuck around in general. That's my only point. I personally don't care what he's singing, I like the music, and the over all feel of the lyrics. Same is true about music like frank zappa. Sure, lyrics like "I'm gonna ram it up your poop shoot" are funny the first few times, but the music is incredible. The fact of the matter is easy, kids don't realize this, they think that Danzig is *really* a satanist, and they want to be cool, just like Glenn. The whole mess is really irresponsible on Glenn's part. When you get down to it the music is good and will sell regardless of what he sings (lyrically). So why dosn't he just come out and sing a normal song? I think he wants that stigma of being a bad ass. But gee wasn't KISS able to have that bad ass thing working by singing rocked up love songs? My point is it dosn't matter what he sings people like his voice. Personally, as a father, I wouldn't want my daughter listening to shit like this until she's able to understand it, and take it from the source.Glenn is someone who wants to be "ALTERNATIVE" but writes his lyrics to attract a certain audience (teenage boys), basically he's in it for the money and getting it without going totally mainstream. The Crimson Ghost ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 09:56:04 GMT+1000 From: 138e Subject: fave albums and shithouse paper article some dude asked what my fave albums are.... here'tis Misfits: legacy of brutality Samhain: November-Coming-Fire Danzig: Lucifuge ROCK BY BRUTE FORCE The Macho Posturing of Slayer & Danzig seems Past it's Time. By Jim Farber Daily News Staff Writer Hmmm... I think this poor soul has severely missed the point. Basically all he seems to have said is that you should compromise your ideas to become a good little mainstream act, and if you dont, then youre a poseur. Do I detect a twist in logic here? With regards to posing,I think Bon Jovi and others ar far worse =;-) He's also made the mistake of saying that anyone who listens to metal will be put in jail. tut tut tut rating Rock by grute force Jim Farber = FUCKING SHITHOUSE BTW... any critiscisms of that poorly written article rests soley on the shoulders of the shithead that wrote it, NOT the person who posted it to this newsletter. On a lighter note, I just scored some purple head!!!! woohoo!!!! Bong On Big Ted ************************************************************ CYCLOPSIAN MULLHEAD @@@ 'Make the most of Indian Hemp seed @@@ And sow it everywhere' George Washington @@_/__ \ /---\ @--:-- \ / :|The lethal dose for cannibis \: \ (/o\) / : / use is a 2 kilo block dropped \: \- \U/ -/:: : / on your head from the 25th \:: / \;:/ floor of a high rise building / BONG \ |: ON! | /---\: /---\ / \: / \ Someone said my teddys | O \ |:;..| O | head was too big \_____/ \------/\ _____/ I shrunk it ************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 19:37:45 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #30 I just want to remark on CG's thoughts on the contributions of the Misfits as a whole rather than just Glenn.. Your right. Whoever said that now you have a real band behind you referring to Samhain, obviously did not understand where the Misfits were coming from. On the other hand, and this is tough to say, the Misfits would not be anything like they were and are still are, cause there is no doubt that their music still lives inside us, without Glenn. Maybe the same could be said about Jerry and Doyle though... The Misfits werent about musical ability they were about fucking attitude. Just cause one of the Misfits had a shitload more musical talent than the others doesnt matter.. Basically, you shouldnt compare the Misfits to Samhain to Danzig... Hate is my mistress and I havent yet to begin to shout out woe.. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:21:11 -0500 (EST) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: Favorite albums Ahhh my favorite Glenn-related albums.. let's see... Misfits: Walk Among Us. Beware is a close second but it loses points for skimming "Children in Heat" Samhain: Initium. Just about everything I ever liked about Samhain is characterized on this one... Although Unholy Passion gets brownie points for being enigmatic as hell. Danzig: Danzig. The first will always be the best. Maybe it's just sentimentality on my part, but on vinyl this thing is just fantastic. Open it up and you've got the little "Sergeant Peppers"-style band shot. I only wish "When Death Had No Name" had made it onto the album... anybody know why it was initially scrapped? To the person who mentioned that "Creepshow" album: mind elaborating on that a little? I've never heard of such a release and would presume it to be a bootleg. I don't have all the Undead records but for what it's worth "When the Evening Comes" pops into my head moreso than any other Undead tune. STILL haven't heard Kryst the Conquerer... I've heard it from both sides of the fence by now.. it's both great and terrible, so I can't imagine my having any preconceived notions about it. I saw it once as a used CD but never picked it up. Teevie ------------------------------ From: pcm2@netcom.com (Neil McAllister) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #30 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 00:41:48 -0800 (PST) > Anyone have any info on the album 'Creepshow'? I guess it was released in > 1989, and is the FINAL Misfits release. Uhhh... I think you're thinking of the compilation album that was released on CD, just titled "Misfits". I don't know where you got this "Creepshow" title from. It's funny, though, I have a copy of the bootleg "Famous Misfits of Filmland", and it's basically tapes swiped off the compilation album, and on the back of the sleeve it says "Taken from the forthcoming release 'Lucifer's Penis Rising'". Now THAT would have been a funny title! Then in some guitar magazine, I read an interview with John Christ who said that the new Danzig album (which we all know as 4p) was to be titled "White Devil Rise". Anybody get the idea that when asked about the titles of albums before they come out, and before they have even actually decided on a title for the album, Danzig & co. just like to rip out with the first funny title that comes off the top of their heads? -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@netcom.com) | Santa Cruz, California, USA "Great art comes from the pit. Where do you think you are headed? The souls of the damned live in failed works like this. You owe it to them to succeed." -- Jim Woodring ------------------------------ From: MISFIT20@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 18:56:09 -0500 Subject: FIVE TIMES Well, I was just informed that I will be missing Danzig for the FIFTH time this year. It just really sucks to be me. --The Misfit ------------------------------ From: kdufresn@vt.edu Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 20:04:45 -0500 Subject: danzig shows I'm new around here so I haven't been up to date with replies. I would like to reply to Ethan's question in issue #1. I have seen Glenn a total of 5 times. I saw him once in '87 during Samhain's last tour. I have seen him four times since he's been with Danzig. The second time I saw him, I was able to meet him backstage. The last time I saw Danzig was back in March and I hope to see them on November 29. keith ------------------------------ From: kdufresn@vt.edu Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 20:29:46 -0500 Subject: fiend club ep I live in Northern Virginia and go to VaTech. On my last trip home I was lucky enough to find the Cough Cool 7" and I also purchased a red vinyl 7" entitled Fiend Club EP. It has a black and white concert poster as it's casing and contains the songs: Spook City USA/Horror Hotel/Rat Fink. I was wondering if anybody could tell me if this was the 7" Fiend Club release that had a pressing of 300 copies. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Oh, and if this is the 300 copy release, I only had to shell out $6.99! Ha ha suckers. child in heat ------------------------------ From: kdufresn@vt.edu Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 21:24:00 -0500 Subject: bootleg vid Yesterday marked the purchased of my seventh Misfits video bootleg. It was filmed in black and white. The person that filmed it was outside of the club and filmed the show through a window. It's a great show from the Earth A.D. tour. Some of the highlights include: Glenn attacking a concertgoer, tackling him to the ground and punching him. Security had to grap Glenn in a chokehold to get him to stop. The show went on. Someone keeps opening the back door to the club and unplugging Doyle's amps. Glenn says, "If you don't like the show, then leave!". It's really funny and I thought that I was going to wet myself. If anyone knows anything about this video, as to where it was filmed, when the show was, anything, please let me know. thanks, child in heat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 21:29:35 -0800 (PST) From: KRISTINA MARIE NELLY Subject: Peter Steele/Danzig mailing list This is in response to Ricky Hinojos' comment about Peter Steele, from Misfits Bible #28: Uh, yeah the lead singer/bassist for Type O Negative IS *huge*. He's nearly 7' tall, according to a writer in SCREAMER magazine. (The guitar- ist wasn't that short, but compared to Peter Steele...anybody would look like a midget. I saw TON when they headlined at Berkeley Square and Peter did look pretty tall.) About the Danzig mailing list...Can someone tell me what the "general information about the list" is? There was no "general information" given with the acknowledgement of my subscription to the Danzig mailing list. Kris. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 32 Thursday, November 17th 1994 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #31 Picks and Favs Re: Misfits Bible, #31 m'fits #31 Favourites, Question... RE:" Creepshow & other goodies Stuff from last issue ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kdufresn@vt.edu Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 18:32:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #31 Since the question is still floatin' around here are my favorite albums: Misfits: Misfits (just because it combines all of the albums (somewhat)) Samhain: Final Descent (Unholy Passion is awesome) Danzig: Lucifuge (it's incredible)(4p probably should be my fav but I'm not as comfortable with it yet) Oh well, there's my input. -=child in heat=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 19:09:18 -0500 (EST) From: -= Eric Snook =- Subject: Picks and Favs Favorites? Christ... MISFITS: BEWARE or 3 Hits From Hell SAMHAIN: Unholy Passion (All Hell Breaks Loose is peachy...) DANZIG: Well, gotta go with his new one. I'm 20 and started listening to the 'Fits in High School. A friend of mine loaned me the Discography (Green Skull) and I got hooked. I then spent all of my money from my petty busboy job to buy all the 7" (mostly all of 'em are bootlegs) and albums. *Sigh* I did get a chance to meet Bobby Steele when he played in Muskegon, Michigan for the Undead: LIVE SLAYER tour thingie. HE was pretty nice for a guy with 9 toes and a blue mohawk... -Eric To Lazy for a .sig ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 19:27:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #31 For those who attempted to help with my question about 'Creepshow'. It is a bootleg, as I soon discovered after my asking that question. The person who mentioned it to me, made it sound like an official album, I later found out it was not. And, to Child In Heat, about the boot video, that concert was recorded at the Goletto Center, in February of 1983. That's in Santa Barbara, CA. At least that's what my 'Creepy Compilation' lists it as. ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 22:00:07 -0500 Subject: m'fits #31 in m'fits #31 138e wrote: Re: ROCK BY BRUTE FORCE By Jim Farber Daily News Staff Writer >Hmmm... I think this poor soul has severely missed the point. >Basically all he seems to have said is that you should compromise >your ideas to become a good little mainstream act, and if you >dont, then youre a poseur. Do I detect a twist in logic here? >BTW... any critiscisms of that poorly written article rests soley on >the shoulders of the shithead that wrote it, NOT the person who >posted it to this newsletter. I originally posted this article to counterpoint my opinion of the new album. But after alot of thought the man has got quite a few valid points. (read my post about Satanism/GD's marketing techniques in M'fits #31) He misses the point by going overboard on the mainstream bi. Glenn Danzig has never been mainstream and never will. But he's on the money in theory. (**READ MY POST IN #31**) As far as the article being poorly written, You my friend are dead wrong. Although you may disagree with what Farber had to say, God knows I did in part, the article was written very well and packed alot of information into very little space. I'm not trying to flame here, but we don't grade on spelling and punctuation! call him an asshole if you want, but don't say the article was poorly written. If you think it was you should go back to freshman COMPOSITION 101........ RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu wrote: >Just cause one of the Misfits had a >shitload more musical talent than the others Yeah, I tend to agree Jerry really was great wasn't he???? :) Does anyone know what the fuck happened to Elizabeth????? I personally really miss her :( The Crimson Ghost ------------------------------ From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 10:09:20 +0300 (EET) Subject: Favourites, Question... Ok, here are my favourites : Misfits - Evilive (It would've been NightOfTheLivingDead if it wasnt for the sound) Samhain - Never heard any albums Danzig - Danzig Now, I've got a question for you... I used to have a Red Vinyl, Red Cover 7inch with 'children in heat', 'ratfink' and 'spook city USA'. Does anybody know about this release and is there any other records that include these songs ? Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Nikolopoulos@Tnclus.ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### Gre:UK:Fin Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### ### ### ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: RE:" Creepshow & other goodies Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 15:04:00 est On the subject of the Misfits release "Creepshow" - it's a 7" bootleg on blue vinyl limited to 500 copies with a cheesy cover stolen from the back cover of the Evilive 7". The track listing is as follows: Who Killed Marilyn (original), Violent World, Braineaters, Demonomania, Death Comes Ripping, Green Hell. I think it came out around 1990 - at least that's when I picked up mine and I hadn't seen it before that. As far as fav albums go by each band: Misfits - Legacy of Brutality (though if there was a compilation of all the 7"s that would easily be my fav!) Samhain - Initium (quite possibly my all time fav LP!) Danzig - Lucifuge, altho 4p is edging up there... Undead - Act Your Rage RE: Neil McAllister on "White Devil Rise" - Apparently that's the title of a song that was recorded for 4p but left off, presumably because it's white supremacy subject matter was too controversial.....BTW has anybody noticed they removed "Kill All the White People" from Type O Negative's re-release of "Bloody Kisses", presumably for the same reason. Anyway, Glenn talks about WDR in an interview he gave for METAL HAMMER magazine that came out over the summer - at the time it was supposed to be on the album. Who knows, maybe it'll end up as a b side on a single. OK, so since there's no more 7"s there's no more B sides anymore and my age is showing but you get the picture. Extra added bonus track. RE: kdufresn@vt.edu - Nov. 29th Danzig show? Baltimore? See ya there!! (If it's cold I'll be easy to spot - look for a gal with long dyed black hair past her waist wearing a leather jacket with the cover to "Black Aria" airbrushed on the back!) RE: Fiend Club 7" - I'll have ta check at home. I think there have been a couple of pressings of it - one says "Fiend Club", another sez "Fiend Club - three old songs". And I frequently wonder if these "limited bootlegs" of 300 or 500 copies really are so limited because a lot of 'em seem pretty common (I think they press as many as they think they can sell!) I've NEVER seen a black & white Misfits bootleg video so I have no idea where it's from. Any chance you would trade a copy of it? I've got tons of videos.... 6 Misfits shows, 6 Samhain, 12 Danzig & lots of various other stuff..... (Braineaters, Halloween & Skulls videos, the uncensored It's Coming Down etc etc) RE: Kristina Marie Nelly - have you heard anything from the Danzig mailing list? I e-mailed to subscribe and got some weird little message about my name was being forwarded for approval or something like that, but since then, nada. Anybody? Has anybody made it to any of the new Danzig shows yet? I'll see 'em again on the 23rd in Raleigh (then NYC, Baltimore, Philly, Detroit and possibly Salem & Seattle - friend got me tickets but can I scrape together the airfare....) I am PSYCHED! Bye for now, - Elizabeth ------------------------------ From: PumroyKJ98%CS28%USAFA@cadetmail3.usafa.af.mil Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 13:32:42 MST I discovered the misfits about a year ago and really love their stuff, and Samhain stuff too. the problem is, i don't know anybody who listens to them or know anything about them. I am wondering: Where did they come from? How did the Misfits get together? Why did they break up? How did Samhain form? Why did they "change" to Danzig(I say change because I think of them as the same group pretty much)? Why doesn't Glenn like to talk about the Misfits(I saw a headbangers ball once where he was being interviewed and said he cared not to talk about them)? Also, There are only four albums I've been able to find: Walk Among Us, Earth A.D., Legacy of Brutality, and the one that's self titled I think with basically everything off Walk Among Us and Earth AD on it. My question is where do I find other Misfits Albums (tape, CD, or vinyl) and bootlegs? Are there many live performances on video existing? If so, how do I get ahold of these? I'd really appreciate someone who could take the time to answer all these questions. pum. ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Stuff from last issue Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 16:22:13 EST According to Everyone: The Misfit asks: > age-16 (anyone younger?) Well, my brother Ethan just turned 16 a few weeks ago, but some of you may have noticed that he hasnt' posted in about a million years... The Child In Heat says: > I live in Northern Virginia and go to VaTech. On my last trip home I was > lucky enough to find the Cough Cool 7" and I also purchased a red vinyl 7" > entitled Fiend Club EP. Did you get these at Smash? You know they're just bootlegs right? > was wondering if anybody could tell me if this was the 7" Fiend Club > release that had a pressing of 300 copies. Any info would be greatly > appreciated. Oh, and if this is the 300 copy release, I only had to shell > out $6.99! Ha ha suckers. Yes it sounds like one of the variations of the Fiend Club 7" but like I said it's a bootleg. People who make bootlegs call them whatever they want. This one's called Fiend Club. It has nothing to do with the actual fan club. $6.99 is pretty good for even a bootleg 7", but you may as well have just taped the songs and saved your money. Kris asks: > About the Danzig mailing list...Can someone tell me what the "general > information about the list" is? There was no "general information" given > with the acknowledgement of my subscription to the Danzig mailing list. Well, when I got my message, i too observed that they hadn't actually included the general info. Those people at American are a little disorganized and maybe somebody should let them know. Basically though, it's safe to assume it's a regular old mailing list. The first post i've received went out the other day. Some gal was asking if anyone had typed up the tour dates, so i sent her the ones evb sent to us all. It looks like the danzig mailing list is the kind that some people prefer to this one, it's the kind where the messages are distributed one by one instead of in digest form like this. I can't decide if i should be sending them issues of the misfits bible. By the way gang, we have more than 95 people on this mailing list now and I've had to split it up into 2 separate mailings. Pretty amazing, I'd say since I used to think 18 was a lot of people.... Mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Bible, #32 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:07:30 -0500 (EST) From: -= Eric Snook =- Subject: Information and Tidbits Yannis: Regarding Spook City U.S.A., etc. etc. -- Well, The Horror Business 7" had "Horror Biz" b/w "Teenagers from Mars" and "Children In Heat" (that's what they say at the beginning, but on the 'Misfits' discography, they don't put on Children in Heat...) -- The 7" by Glenn Danzig "Who Killed Marilyn?" (original version) b/w with "Spook City USA" -- "Ratt Fink" was on the B side of "Night of the Living Dead" which also had "Where Eagles Dare." IMHO, I think all the original 7"s are better than the ones on the discography. For the most part, Bobby Steele did the singles... Does anybody know if Bobby did the guitar work on the discography as well? Pum: Well, as obtaining the original 7" singles can get pretty expensive. The original BEWARE goes for anywhere between $125 to $200 bux. The best bet (if you want the records) is to buy the bootlegs. I know this kinda pisses people off, but since these recordings can't be obtained any other way (Box set, Mr. Danzig?), that's the only way. Where to find bootlegs? I dunno... check out indie stores or ones that still sell vinyl... or you can skim through Maximum Rock n' Roll and shell out muchos dollars for the real thing in the classifieds. If I made any goofs, sorry! Any experts out there (I'm sure) will point 'em out. -Eric ------------------------------ From: kdufresn@vt.edu Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:12:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #32 >RE: kdufresn@vt.edu - Nov. 29th Danzig show? Baltimore? See ya there!! > (If it's cold I'll be easy to spot - look for a gal with long dyed black >hair past her waist wearing a leather jacket with the cover to "Black Aria" >airbrushed on the back!) RE: Fiend Club 7" - I'll have ta check at home. I >think there have been a couple of pressings of it - one says "Fiend Club", >another sez "Fiend Club - three old songs". And I frequently wonder if >these "limited bootlegs" of 300 or 500 copies really are so limited because >a lot of 'em seem pretty common (I think they press as many as they think >they can sell!) > >I've NEVER seen a black & white Misfits bootleg video so I have no idea >where it's from. Any chance you would trade a copy of it? I've got tons of >videos.... 6 Misfits shows, 6 Samhain, 12 Danzig & lots of various other >stuff..... (Braineaters, Halloween & Skulls videos, the uncensored It's >Coming Down etc etc) > I don't mind trading it since I got it for free. But Thanksgiving break is coming soon, and I'm trading videos with people from Florida, California, Texas, etc. you get the drift. Right now I've got my hands full, but please try back in a month, everything should have cooled down by then. Haha, have fun at Michael's eighth avenue. I saw Danzig with Prong there on March 30th. That place is a shithole. The show was good, you can get close to Glenn, he held the mike out to me so I could sing part of the chorus to How the Gods Kill, but that place really sucks. Yeah, I will trade the video to you, it's really funny. -=child in heat=- ------------------------------ From: kdufresn@vt.edu Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:16:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #32 >The Child In Heat says: > >> I live in Northern Virginia and go to VaTech. On my last trip home I was >> lucky enough to find the Cough Cool 7" and I also purchased a red vinyl 7" >> entitled Fiend Club EP. > >Did you get these at Smash? You know they're just bootlegs right? > >> was wondering if anybody could tell me if this was the 7" Fiend Club >> release that had a pressing of 300 copies. Any info would be greatly >> appreciated. Oh, and if this is the 300 copy release, I only had to shell >> out $6.99! Ha ha suckers. > >Yes it sounds like one of the variations of the Fiend Club 7" but like >I said it's a bootleg. People who make bootlegs call them whatever they >want. This one's called Fiend Club. It has nothing to do with the actual >fan club. $6.99 is pretty good for even a bootleg 7", but you may as well >have just taped the songs and saved your money. > Yeah, I live at Smash. Oh well, I really don't care much if it's a bootleg, it's on red vinyl, that's cool enough. Thanks for the info. -=child in heat=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 14:59:04 -0500 (EST) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: Danzig in Indianapolis I have gotten word that Danzig is playing in Indianapolis on December 6, but I don't remember Elizabeth's tourdate list having Indy anywhere on it (and I can't find it now, nor can i get to the WWW page from where I am right now). Apparently the show is taking place in a stadium at the Indianapolis Fairgrounds.. I forget its name. Anyway it makes no difference to me because I've got class that night so I can't go. Anyone on this list near or around Indiana? Cuz I am. On an entirely unrelated note, GWAR is playing its first Indianapolis show this December as well! And Sloppy Seconds has a show, too. Whoopie! Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ From: kdufresn@vt.edu Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:05:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #32 And, to Child In Heat, about the boot video, that concert was >recorded at the Goletto Center, in February of 1983. That's in Santa >Barbara, CA. At least that's what my 'Creepy Compilation' lists it as. > Thanks for the info. I know my friends have been hounding me for an answer, now they'll be happy. -=child in heat=- ------------------------------ From: MISFIT20@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 16:29:38 -0500 Subject: DANZIG CHICAGO SHOW Hey, is anyone here going to the DANZIG show on Dismember 9 at the Aragant Brawlroom in Chicago? If so let me know. You might spot me by the biker jacket with the cover to Earth A.D. on the back, the Misfits and Danzig skulls on the left sleve, and the extreemly bloody hood and chain on the right arm (a tribute to Lobo)... --The Misfit ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Misfits Videos & other trivia.... Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 17:03:00 est In the last MBible PumroyKJ98% asked about any Misfits videos - here a listing of all the ones I know of. They are all bootlegs floating out there - there were never any "officially released" ones. - 10/31/80 - Live in Detroit - this is the earliest known one I've found (which just turned up in the last year!) It's the only one that has Googy on drums - they also have a coffin on stage with them. Video & sound quality are both pretty poor, 35 min - 10/31/82 - NA Community Center, Bethlehem, PA - 36 min A really good copy of this recently surfaced when a friend of mine up in Allentown PA found a fellow who had a copy off the master!! It's the best live footage I've found! - ??, 1982 - Kalamazoo, MI - 13 min - have found a decent copy of this excerpt from a show - 1/7/83 - "Why Be Something You're Not" - Cable Access TV show done for cable station in Dearborn Michigan, 35 min. This is the one everybody's got - you can buy boots of it at any record show. They perform live & do a short interview - the interviewer asks Glenn his name & he said "Slim Whitman" - there are clueless ones on alt.music.danzig who think this is his real name. (Guess they haven't heard of ol' Slim... I thought it was pretty funny!) - 2/83 - Goleta Center, Santa Barbara CA, 27 min - all the copies I've seen of this are pretty crappy - tons of stage divers, look close and you can see Eerie Von up front working security! - 3/20/83 - Channel Club, Boston MA, 55 min (full version - there are many trimmed ones floating out there) This was originally shot to be released by Flipside magazine but never was. Pro shot with several cameras. Short videos also exist for: Braineaters - band and their friends sitting around a table while a formally attired chef comes out & dishes out helpings of brains while they bang their forks on the table & chant along... Skulls & Halloween - short promo clips edited together by somebody else later on of mostly live footage from the last Misfits show ever (Detroit 10/29/83) Others rumored to exist that I haven't been able to find: - An entire copy of the 10/29/83 final show in Detroit - Appearance on "the Uncle Floyd Show" - a NY based cable access show that I can basically best describe as "Romper Room for Drug Casualties". I used to watch it in the early 80's before I'd heard of the Misfits (sigh!) but they used to have lots of local punk bands on - remember seeing the Ramones on there a lot. Unfortunately even Uncle Floyd doesn't have a copy (the show was so low budget they'd re-record over their tapes!!) but hopefully a video copy exists out their somewhere, as an audio copy HAS surfaced. Anyway, they appeared on there 10/31/81 and did an interview and played "Vampira". [they also played Halloween - MSK] As for why Glenn doesn't like to talk about the Misfits - well, how would YOU like it if people kept wanted to ask you about what you'd done 11 or more years ago? I think he resents the fact that while the Misfits were together they were pretty much ignored - there aren't a hell of a lot of Misfits interviews & nearly all of them were in tiny fanzines (the biggest magazines that ever wrote about them at the time were Flipside, Slash and Forced Exposure - most of the other Misfits interviews I've found were in tiny zines of the xeroxed & stapled variety) Glenn feels that the journalists missed the boat and that they should have asked those questions at the time while the band was together. He has no interest in discussing what he considers to be ancient history. I won't even try to go into why the Misfits broke up..... suffice to say they didn't get along. Glenn started Samhain with his friend Eerie Von who had previously drummed for the Lodi band Rosemary's Babies. EV was in the same class in high school as Doyle & met Doyle while he was taking photos of the football team for the school paper. In '81 he started taking photos of the Misfits & hanging out with them & eventually worked as their roadie. When Glenn started Samhain he told EV he'd make a better front man as he had too much personality to hide in the back behind the drums, so Eerie took up bass. Samhain changed to Danzig when they signed to Def American - Rick Rubin saw Samhain play at the New Music Seminar in NYC & really liked them so he signed them up. Glenn felt that they needed more competent musicians so he recruited Chuck who he'd long admired & auditioned for a while to get a top guitar player & found the unknown John Christ. (Originally EV dubbed him "John Von Christ"!) (Actually you can say John Christ played for Samhain too as he played on some of the tracks on "Final Descent") Ack - this has turned into a short history lesson!!! The only other officially released Misfits LP besides Walk among Us, Earth AD, Legacy of Brutality & the 20 track self titled compilation would be "Evilive" which is a rerelease of the 7" that had come out years earlier.... The only other 12" format release would be "Beware" that was only released in the UK. The rest are bootlegs - some are great, many are crap. There are DOZENS upon DOZENS of them, on vinyl & CD. The best place to look for them is record shows, or check ads in magazines like Goldmine (excellent record collector's magazine) or Record Collector (UK collector's mag) or classified ads in the back of Maximum Rock and Roll or Flipside. (These are good places to check for original releases too). Some record stores, mostly the indie types, will also carry bootlegs. On another note, I'm still waiting for Glenn's comic VEROTIKA to come out. According to their publisher Val Jones it got hung up at the printers & was delayed a few weeks. But the Verotik booklet "Alphabet of Murder" is now out - its an alphabet of famous killers as drawn by Bad Otis Link, who previously had collaborated on the "Cannibal Trading Cards & recipes" with Rob Zombie & Chuck Biscuits. Alphabet of Murder is dedicated to Chuck's late brother (and former Danzig roadie) "Dim-wit" a/k/a Ken Montgomery Jr. who recently OD'd. In the back of "Alphabet" are some ads for Verotika & Satanika showing GREAT Simon Bisley covers - CAN'T WAIT to see those! I think I've rambled enough (can you say verbal diarrea?) .... Now off to some more Danzig shows (first stop Raleigh!) - next time I'll give ya some live reviews/reports!! (And if I miss the first few issues, well, I've got a good excuse!) - EVB ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Stuff from #32 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 17:13:43 EST This happened last time: > NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi said this: > > Now, I've got a question for you... I used to have a Red Vinyl, Red Cover > 7inch with 'children in heat', 'ratfink' and 'spook city USA'. Does > anybody know about this release and is there any other records that > include these songs ? > This is just another bootleg very similar to the "Fiend Club" bootleg. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 21:13:50 -0500 (EST) From: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #32 OK: Faves: Misfits -- between LEGACY and EARTH A.D. Samhain -- FINAL DESCENT Danzig -- DANZIG 4 (although HOW THE GODS KILL runs a _real_ close second) Seeing Danzig: They're playing in Indianapolis on December 6 (can't remember WHERE though)....any of you gonna be there (maybe?) OK, shit from the last issue: >From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi >Now, I've got a question for you... I used to have a Red Vinyl, Red Cover >7inch with 'children in heat', 'ratfink' and 'spook city USA'. Does >anybody know about this release and is there any other records that >include these songs ? I used to have that 7", I traded it to my friend Jeremy for a Bad Religion 7" (this was 3 years ago, kids)..the sounds quality on my copy sucked balls, but it DID come with a flyer from a DC show :). The only other place I know of that has "Ratfink" is a boot CD called BEWARE...AND THE REST that Jeremy bought last week (Jim, don't worry, I'm taping it before I come up!) that puts this 7" on it. >From: She >By the way gang, we have more than 95 people on this mailing list now and >I've had to split it up into 2 separate mailings. Pretty amazing, I'd say >since I used to think 18 was a lot of people.... (in his best Homer Simpson voice) "WOO HOO!" --- Geoff We@sel Tune in, turn on, drop dead ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 19:50:13 -0800 (PST) From: KRISTINA MARIE NELLY Subject: Re: Danzig mailing list Well, I finally received a couple of postings from the Danzig mailing list, but I am still confused about how the list is run. For example, one of the postings I received was a question from Mark asking for the number of subscribers to the Danzig mailing list and if he should send those people the Misfits mailing list. So, MARK...Did you receive a reply from the handlers of the DML? Or is the DML one of those electronically run mailing lists, that can't keep track of questions directed to the source? (BTW, the only other posting I received was from a guy saying he was interested in the Misfits mail- ling list.) I don't think I can get used to the idea of getting mail that's not specifically directed to me. Personally, I prefer the digest format. At least that way people can read and answer each other's post- ings. No surprises...You know who's being addressed and you know who to address. Kris. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 94 14:15:58 GMT From: W Mathias Subject: 4p? O.K. I'm a new guy so don't laugh when I ask the question. What does the 'p' mean in '4p'. I know you've probably had this one a million times before but I still don't know so humour me, yeah! While I am at it, my fav. albums are: MISFITS : Walk Among Us SAMHAIN : Initium DANZIG : How The Gods Kill ( 4p is cool but it takes me a while to get into new stuff ) Also, what is the 66th track on '4p' called? Wayne scm3wm@cm.cf.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 09:44:24 -0600 (CST) From: Belle Wood Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #32 Hi Everybody!!!! Just got back from the Danzig show in Dallas Texas and have to say it kicked ass. It was awesome. They played a lot, no Misfits, no Samhain, but I wasnt' really expecting them to. I didn't go to see the Misfits or Samhain. Here's a little rundown of the show: (I don't want to ruin the surprise for anyone, so if you don't want to know what they played, read no further.) Of course they played the requisite 'Her Black Wings' and 'Killer Wolf' as well as 'Mother'. From 4p they played 'The Stalker Song', 'Brand New God' 'Little Whip', 'Until You Call on the Dark' and 'Going Down to Die'. If I remember corrctly, they played 'She Rides' and 'Twist of Cain'. Also from Lucifuge, they did 'Long Way Back from Hell'. From HTGK they played 'Do You Wear the Mark' and 'How the Gods Kill'. I'm sure they played more, I just can't remember everything. Right in the middle of the set the cops started macing people and everyone was coughing, even Glenn. They went off stage and Glenn came back and said "If you're wondering why your coughing, the cops just maced a bunch of people." It was a wonderful show, well worth the bumps, scrapes and bruises. I'll wear them as badges of honor. Hehehehehe Belle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 14:26:01 -0600 (CST) From: Brent Eyestone Subject: THE NEW GUY Greetings to all of my fellow fiends (from probably the newest member of the list): Hello, my name is Brent Eyestone. I am 18 years old and I've been listening to the Misfits since 5th grade (@8 years!). I was very happy to find that at least 94 other people share the same (unholy) passion that I do toward Glenn and co. So - just yesterday Mark sent out the info on the list as well as some back issues. I enjoyed them thoroughly except for the contributions of one member (which I'll get to later). But first, to answer Mark's question: ASCAP stands for the American Society of Composer, Artists, and Printers (I think). I hope that this eases your mind. Also, I was reading through and found some stuff by Child In Heat, who says he/she lives in Northern Virginia. Where? I live in Stafford, just north of Fredericksburg and also get my records from Smash. I go to school at Penn State - so I haven't been there in a while. I'm going back in a few days, though. Care to elaborate? As I said, I found everything in the Misfits Bible great except for one contributor - "Big Ted." What the hell is up with this guy? Hey Big Ted- this a mailing list for the Misfits, NOT hemp, okay? I don't know how many people I speak for, but we're here to talk about Danzig and things related to him and his bands. What role does hemp play in any of this? NONE. Please keep your stoned-ass away from the keyboard if all you have to contribute is a few drug-hazed thoughts and pictures of bongs. We don't give a flying fuck! Do you think hemp is what got Danzig to where he is today? Do you think the songs are about pot? The Misfits, Samhain, and Danzig were/are bands who make music for people who want to explore the dark side and scratch the surface of the unknown - NOT to provide a soundtrack for your "high times." Am I alone in believing that Big Ted is totally missing the point behind the music? Is this the type of person who Danzig gears his music toward? I should hope not. Hey Big Ted, how do you think Glenn got that massive body and amazing vocal ability? Through hemp? Think again. Go listen to the Black Crowes or Snoop Dog or something if you want to relate to other fans who share your nice little habit. Well, that's all of the praise and gripes I can give right now, I'm really looking forward to the future issues. Once again, I am so proud that most of you out there share the same passion for such amazing groups. This will definitely carry on The Legacy of Brutality for many, many years to come. Thanks a lot. -Brent Eyestone (bce104@psu.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 22:16:44 -0600 (CST) From: Belle Wood Subject: Danzig does Dallas Hi there!!! This is the second post concerning the show, evidently the first one didn't make it out to the BIble, only to a few people. Maybe this will work a little better. Went to the Danzig show at the Bombfactory on Thursday, November 17, and to quote Liz, it was a religious experience. Please understand that this is my first Danzig show, although I've really wanted to see them for a long time. This was kinda like dream come true. They were awesome, I thought. They played several songs off the new album. (I don't want to ruin a surprise for anyone, so if you don't want to know what they played and all that, read no further.) >From 4p: Brand New God, LIttle Whip, Going Down to Die, Until You Call on the Dark. Of course they played the requisite Her Black Wings, Mother and Killer Wolf. Other songs from Danzig I were She Rides and Twist of Cain. From II they played Long Way Back from Hell, and probably some more that I just can't remember because I was en-Thrall-ed (heheheh) by Glenn and his black latex shirt. >From HTGK they played HTGK, Left Hand Black (I think) and something else. I'm leaving out a lot I know, but that's all I could remember. Joey did a good job, to all those who are worried about a repeat of the Halloween show. Of course, I'm not a drummer, so I probably don't qualify to say that, but I still thought he was good. A lot different from Chuck though-Joey sits so low his knees are up at his chest. He's a real cutie too. Some of you already got the message sent before, where I told you guys that everybody got maced. Seems somebody got stabbed, and a crowd ran after the guy who stabbed him, and jumped on him. The cops maced everybody. It was floating in the air so bad that everyone, including Glenn, was choking. They went off the stage, and came back on and Glenn said "If you want to know why you all are choking, it's because the cops just maced everybody." Later on after the show, Eerie Von said that they didn't even know what had happened until Glenn asked what was wrong with the air in the club, why was everyone coughing so. I met the guys after the show, and as many of you already know, they were real nice. I got pictures with everyone except Joey, who couldn't be found. Belle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 10:09:13 -0500 (EST) From: Katherine T Sumner Subject: too bad... I finally broke down and got Danzig IV (well, actually I got talked into it); what a total disappointment. . . . I was hoping for something at least listenable, since it seemed to be such a popular number among y'all. I could give a point by point critique, but I don't think this list wants to see 5 pages of trashing their icon. (who just may stop being my icon after this fiasco. . . . At least I can think of 3 bright spots: 1. I got it on sale, so there's $3 I didn't spend on it. 2. I don't feel the least bit sorry about missing the concert. 3. Since I was at the store anyway, I went ahead and got some *good* albums by good groups, most notably Bathory and Witchfynde :) :) Let me just reiterate how absolutely horrified I am. I have *always* found something to love on everything Glenn has done, even III (which I didn't like in alot of ways); there is only one halfway decent song on this and a couple of moments in other songs, the rest is just awful. I was actually laughing by the time I got around to listening to the extra track (the second time I listened--the first time I was too appalled to bother). All I could do was either laugh or go mad. Well, I feel much better now for getting that off my chest. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:38:59 GMT+1000 From: 138e Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #32 > I originally posted this article to counterpoint my opinion of the new album. > But after alot of thought the man has got quite a few valid points. (read my > post about Satanism/GD's marketing techniques in M'fits #31) He misses the > point by going overboard on the mainstream bi. Glenn Danzig has never been > mainstream and never will. But he's on the money in theory. (**READ MY POST > IN #31**) As far as the article being poorly written, You my friend are dead > wrong. Although you may disagree with what Farber had to say, God knows I did > in part, the article was written very well and packed alot of information > into very little space. I'm not trying to flame here, but we don't grade on > spelling and punctuation! call him an asshole if you want, but don't say the > article was poorly written. If you think it was you should go back to > freshman COMPOSITION 101........ Sorry to burst your bubble, but I never actually said it was poorly written, although I did say it was Fucking Shithouse. It was it's content that I based this coment on. For instance, a song can have great musical structure, but also have the most cheesy lyrics in existance. That's really what I was trying to say, tho I made the mistake of not actually saying it. Hope that clears up any shit. I'll probably not read any responce you had to that, mainly cos I've just finished uni and wont be here for at least 3 months. Bye all ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ now *that* was poorly written ;) Big Ted ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 34 Thursday, November 24th 1994 Today's Topics: Going to Baltimore!! Re:Danzig mailing list Last issue Re: Misfits Bible, #33 Danzig in Indy The new guy Okay... enough of this ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WL262042@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 15:19:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Going to Baltimore!! Well, Me and my friend are heading off to Baltimore tuesday for the show. I think it's gonna fuckin' rule! It'll be our first Danzig show. Hope to see you there. If you see us, we'll probably be wearing homemade (magic marker, ect) Danzig shirts, stop us and say hey! Sean Maguire, Justin Fravel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 12:42:25 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Anthony Flemming Subject: Re:Danzig mailing list >From: KRISTINA MARIE NELLY >Subject: Re: Danzig mailing list >Well, I finally received a couple of postings from the Danzig mailing >list, but I am still confused about how the list is run. For example, >one of the postings I received was a question from Mark asking for the >number of subscribers to the Danzig mailing list and if he should send >those people the Misfits mailing list. I think I finally figured out how the Mailing list is run. Maybe I'm the only one who hasn't figured it out by now, so if I seem ignorant I'm sorry. Any mail that is sent to danzig@american.recordings.com is automatically forwarded to everyone on the mailing list. I deduced this because I was getting all these requests to be put on the Slayer list, and when I looked at the To: Address it said Slayer@american.recordings.com. Thereby using the deductive reasoning that I've learned in my Philosophy class (that by the way I'm boardering on getting a no pass) I have concluded that anything sent to the the bandname@american will be sent to everyone. At least this makes sense(to me). So next time you get mail that seems to be intended for some list operator check the header and let me know if I'm right. =) /| __ ___ ___ __ |\ ******************************| -- -^ \_/ ^- -- |****************** * morrigu@uclink.berkeley.edu \ ---_ _--- / * * & ----^\| _>_<_ |/^---- Robert Flemming * * flemming@ocf.berkeley.edu / --- / \ --- \ * ************************************\__/| -^- |\__/************************ \ MMM / ------------------------------------- Date: 11/22/94 Subject: Last issue From: She (msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu) Last time: Kris said: > So, MARK...Did you receive a reply from the handlers of the DML? Or is > the DML one of those electronically run mailing lists, that can't keep > track of questions directed to the source? (BTW, the only other posting > I received was from a guy saying he was interested in the Misfits mail- > ling list.) I don't think I can get used to the idea of getting mail > that's not specifically directed to me. Personally, I prefer the digest > format. At least that way people can read and answer each other's post- > ings. No surprises...You know who's being addressed and you know who > to address. Yeah, the Danzig mailing list is the type that just forwards all mail to everyone on the list, instead of a digest like this... Wayne said: > > O.K. I'm a new guy so don't laugh when I ask the question. What does the 'p' > mean in '4p'. I know you've probably had this one a million times before but > I still don't know so humour me, yeah! The Four P movement is an alleged Satanic cult operating throughout the United States. An offshoot of the notorious Process Church of the Final Judgement, the Four P movement takes it's name from the Process' original sigil: a swastika like form composed of four interlocking Ps. The Four P movement was supposedly begun in 1967, and has been connected to a number of ritual across the country, including the Son of Sam killings in New York and the Manson Family in California. And what is the last song called? Invocation Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 18:10:01 EST From: Ryan Stephens Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #33 To all the fiends.... I've read now about three of the bibles so far and I have to say that I fell very impressed by the people who are one. Basically because from all the articles I have read not a single on of you (beside the guy trying to sell pot) is a jerk. The Misfits Samhain and Danzig are three of the most powerful bands ever made in my opinon regardless that one man has fronted all three since its the band that carries him (let's be honest Glenn can play a guitar but not really PLAY a guitar no feeling to his guitar work at all.) I've been listning to the misfits for about a year and a half I'm twenty now. Really since the summer have I gotten into danzig and the Misfits fully. Perhaps it's the anger or it's the mirth in the grotesqness of the songs. anyway I love it. Personally I like the 20 song collection the best only because it gives an overview. otherwise I would have to go with Walk Among Us simply for skulls and Devil's whorehouse. I would like to see the corpses hanging headless and limp after all. Anyway for those who are intrested I have Walk among us lyrics translated and soon I will put them on my E-Mail account also I am still 'translating' Legacy of brutality some of those songs are a little too garbled. Oh for anyone who did'nt like 4p I thought that personally it was the best Simply for Sadistikal and Invocation (track66) -Mozzer I SINGLED OUT THE KIDS WHO ARE MEAN TO ME I GET STRAIGHT A'S BUT THEY STILL MAKE FUN I DON'T GIVE A...I LAUGH LAST..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 08:31:37 -0500 (EST) From: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Danzig in Indy The Danzig show in Indy is at the State Fair Expo Hall, December 6, 1994. Hey! Stephen Sisson! Where and when on GWAR in Indy?! If any of ye are gonna be there, I'll have a flattop, and PROBABLY a Shellac or Big Black shirt on....but we can finalize that later. :) Happy Roast Big Dead Bird Day. --- Geoff We@sel Tune in, turn on, drop dead ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 10:45:42 -0500 Subject: The new guy In M'fits #33 Brent Eyestone Wrote: > As I said, I found everything in the Misfits Bible great except for one >contributor - "Big Ted." What the hell is up with this guy? Hey Big Ted- >this a mailing list for the Misfits, NOT hemp, okay? I don't know how many >people I speak for, but we're here to talk about Danzig and things related >to him and his bands. What role does hemp play in any of this? NONE. >Please keep your stoned-ass away from the keyboard if all you have to >contribute is a few drug-hazed thoughts and pictures of bongs. We don't >give a flying fuck! Do you think hemp is what got Danzig to where he is >today? Do you think the songs are about pot? The Misfits, Samhain, and >Danzig were/are bands who make music for people who want to explore the >dark >side and scratch the surface of the unknown - NOT to provide a soundtrack >for your "high times." Am I alone in believing that Big Ted is totally >missing the point behind the music? Is this the type of person who Danzig >gears his music toward? I should hope not. Hey Big Ted, how do you think >Glenn got that massive body and amazing vocal ability? Through hemp? >Think >again. Go listen to the Black Crowes or Snoop Dog or something if you want >to relate to other fans who share your nice little habit. Whoa.....who the *FUCK* do you think you are?? Number 1, on this list we do not flame to this extent. It's just not done, we tend to think of ourselves as close knit, any flames that are issued are calm and gentle. The majority of people on this list have access to the internet for the first time in their life through a college account they don't need to be turned off by the likes of you. The last I heard Punk/Alterno type music was anti-establishment, I can't think of anything more anti-establishment than coloring your hair blue and smoking some pot. I can't speak for Danzig but the Misfits were nothing like, how did you put it?? >bands who make music for people who want to explore the >dark >side and scratch the surface of the unknown> These KIDS were a FUCKIN' GARAGE BAND FROM NJ get it through your thick skull jerkoff. Have you ever even listened to a practice tape, no obviously you haven't, they do sound like a sound track to high times. I'm not saying they sat around and smoked pot I have no idea, I'll ask Jerry, of course i'll never tell. as far as glenn's *massive body* GEE he went through life as a 98 pound sickly lookin punk then all of a sudden turned into a gothic hulk?? BULLSHIT ever heard of STEROIDS.. I could care less what he does with his body. Just as I could care less what you or big ted do with yours' If we start to black flag people because of who they are, what they do or what they smoke, we are no better than Hitler, Stalin, or Jerry Falwell, to name a few. Maybe next we should go flame all the homosexuals in alt.sex.homosexual gee wouldn't that be fun....GET A FUCKIN LIFE ASSWIPE-- The Crimson Ghost ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 10:53:13 -0500 From: She Subject: Okay... enough of this Here's my plan. Let's stop this flaming business. I know that I personally don't share the same philosophical views/beliefs, etc, that everyone else here does, but if somebody wants says something I don't agree with, I'm not going to attack them. The idea here is to talk about the Misfits, not attack each other. From now on, if a flame of some kind comes to the Misfits mailbox, I'm forwarding it to the person it's directed to. Us fiends are an endangered species so let's try to be nice.... mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 35 Tuesday, November 29th 1994 Today's Topics: "MISFITS" bible? Here in room 21 collecting question Top 10/stuff 4p in cleveland??? sorry, mr. ghost one more thing Flame me! New Vocalist????? Continental Crawler EP sales info Things I Forgot see ya questions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 15:19:28 +0300 (EET) Subject: "MISFITS" bible? I'm new in this list (not new to Misfits music though, I've been into the Misfits for *many* years) because I simply didnt know it existed. Well, I'm puzzled by something.... This is a list called "the Misfits Bible" right? Well, why do we have to talk about Danzig and Samhain so much? If I want to talk generally about (Glenn) Danzig I'll go to alt.music.danzig. BTW, are most posts in that newsgroup idiotic or what? Anyway, why dont we just concentrate on the Misfits? Or maybe you think this list should be renamed : The Glenn_Danzig_and_his_bands Bible?? I know people (including me) who are not Glenn Danzig fans (which means liking all the bands he's been into) and prefer the Punked-up Misfits to the Heavy-Metal-whatever Danzig (I do like Danzig I though and maybe III a bit). I dont know if there are such people in this list but I would certainly hope so! I would like to hear peoples opinions on this.... Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ #### #### #### #### #### #### Yannis Nikolopoulos Nikolopoulos@tnclus.ntc.nokia.com #### #### #### #### Gre:UK:Fin Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com #### #### #### #### #### #### ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 19:28:10 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: Here in room 21 Well, as for the flaming.. CG is right in that we dont need it. Why do you think I hate Usenet.. It is just a vivisection of the whining pissy american public, who really dont have any fucking clue whats going on so they make fun of others based on media heresy.. We dont need it here. If this 'list' is getting invade with such cementheaded suck people than remove me now. .. I dont care I enjoy talking to fellow Fiends, but enough is enough. But CG in your anti-flame response you were calling your 'target' jerkoff and asswipe.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 19:48:13 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Also, about Glenn being on Steroids and everything else ...who cares What does it matter. Why the hell does evryone have to think they know everything about Glenn. If he took steroids than fine..If he didnt than fine..If any of you think its not possible for him to go from his previous build to what he is know than your fucked. Steriods can help yeah. But im short and in 6 months I have gotten a build similar to Glenns. I lift alot but hey im dedicated to myself. Through his music, I feel that so is Glenn. So I THINK that his growth is legit.. But again, if he took steroids good for him... HEIL steroids...'Who the Fuck cares...and whose rules are you living by yours or theirs'... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 00:33:20 -0500 (EST) From: Katherine T Sumner Subject: collecting question I have a number of bootlegs, but only 3 original pieces in my collection (besides the standard stuff that's still in print, of course). This obviously leaves me with a lot of room to expand. So what is fair market value for original Misfits & Samhain stuff? I have generally been at the whim of the dealer, having to assume that he's actually charging a reasonable price. This is bad, especially in auctions. I have the impression that around $60-70 is the usual price for alot of the singles, but what about the rarer ones? What about the albums? I don't want to get ripped off, if I get the chance to buy any more. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 21:22:42 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Top 10/stuff What is your 10 fav Misfits/Danzig/Samhain songs? I mean from all 3 bands combined or you can make seperate lists. Top 10 ---------------- 1. Last Caress - Misfits 2. Twist of Cain - Danzig 3. Cantspeak - Danzig 4. Samhain - Samhain 5. Dirty Black Summer - Danzig 6. Mother (Original) - Danzig 7. How The Gods Kill - Danzig 8. Its Coming Down - Danzig 9. Green Hell - Misfits 10. Her Black Wings - Danzig Stuff -------------- Concerning the fact of Danzig being a steriod user I think is totally BS. If you look he does progress to be more muscular throughout each album Misfits - Danzig. To be honest steriod users suffer from shrunken testicles and sometimes increases of estrogen. If he did use steriods I would have to disagree his voice would be like it is. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 12:19:20 -0500 From: "Michael D. McCrea" Subject: 4p in cleveland??? First, lemme say hi, been reading for a while, just not contributing. I have not heard of any word of Danzig playing in Cleveland, does anybody out there know otherwise? I have already seen him before on the HTGK tour, which kicked ass...some guy got stomped on, really looked painful. thanks in advance... Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 17:14:39 -0600 (CST) From: Brent Eyestone Subject: sorry, mr. ghost Dear Crimson-Ghost (SIR!) and all others offended: Holy Shit! I didn't really intend for such a response when I addressed that letter to Big Ted. I'm really sorry if it pissed you off. It's just that I don't really see the point behind bringing hemp into the picture because ultimately it comes down to the music. I just get annoyed when people talk about things not related to the bands or the music, that's all. The lines about "exploring the darkside, etc." come from Glenn's mouth about what he's been trying to with his music (I used to have that interview on tape). Okay, yeah - I was too harsh on the flame-job, but then you turn around and do the same. You don't even know a damn thing about me. I don't know a damn thing about Big Ted other than his "habit" which was the only thing I addressed. Listen, I have NOTHING against you - as a matter of fact, I enjoy reading your contributions to the Bible - you are a very good writer/inside source that we all benefit from. But then again, you write stuff to me about how I'm some Alterno-punk asshole and that I need a life, etc. Man - if anything, I was among the Misfits' target audience: a bunch of young, individual, independent, crazy skateboarders who would make copies of the tapes/albums for each other, draw the Crimson Ghost on our boards and everything and go to the Samhain/Danzig shows before probably half of the people on this list heard of Glenn. So please don't pass judgment and I'll do likewise from now on. Once again I apologize for coming off like I did. It's just that I don't see how pot could ever help anyone in their "anti-establishment" lifestyle when the establishment itself does drugs (Marion Bary re-elected?). I am very anti-establishment. But do you know how I go about Fucking with the System? I get into the system (student government, big corporation, etc.) and then I rip it up from the inside rather than just sit around, smoke pot, and bitch. Last year at my former high school I managed to leak tons of info from the administration to the local press that resulted in the whole administration being turned upside down. I even got some folks fired. Now that school is a much better place to go to. That wouldn't have happened if I just sat on my ass. Glenn does it with the music, I do it through deception. The point is, we are DOING it, not bitching about it. Fuck, I really went off on a tangent, huh? Well, Mr. Ghost - I'll leave you now. No hard feelings? I Ain't No Goddam Son of A Bitch, Brent (bce104@psu.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 17:26:54 -0600 (CST) From: Brent Eyestone Subject: one more thing By the way, in defense of Glenn, it is possible to get that huge w/o steroids. I went from the perverbial 98-pound weakling to six foot two and 220 pounds in maybe four years (?). It was all steroid-free, it was just a lot of of lifting and eating. Thanks again, Crimsy. -Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 11:16:12 -0400 (CDT) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: Flame me! I dunno... I think flames are cool. But I guess not everyone can separate internet conversation from the "real" world, so it's best not to push it. For the record, though, anyone who wants a scapegoat to kick around is free to flame me! Other ramblings... Person from Indy: Gwar is playing December 12 in the place which was once called City Lights on the east side of town... I missed a Danzig show that played there once... whoopie! Hey, the Sumners are on the list! Hiya! It's me! The little guy you sent a nice package to right before I left CMU and didn't have email for a looooong time! I'm sorry I never got the opportunity to say- thanks!! Where is that Shaitan guy? I was so confused by everyone's email addresses 2 years ago I could never tell who was who. Ummm... lessee... I am definitely not seeing the Danzig show in Indy this year. I am even skipping out on Gwar-- it's just too much of a pain in the ass to get back during finals. Plus I'll have more money left over if I don't go! Heh heh.. I may be a tightwad, but don't tell me these concerts haven't been getting more and more expensive these days... Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 17:17:20 -0500 Subject: New Vocalist????? Now that there's more people on this list I feel the need to tell everyone a bit of info that hasn't been posted in a while. Jerry & Doyle are still around, they have a band and they are looking for a vocalist. Any interested people should send a description and picture of themselves and a practice tape to: Cyclopian Music, P.O. Box 310, Vernon, NJ 07462 - - We have gotten quite a few good prospects, but more are welcome! That's about all I have to say today, we sure are getting dull again dosn't anyone have anything to say???? +----------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | | | | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +----------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: mdm1@cc.bellcore.com (michael d myers) Date: 28 Nov 1994 14:19 EST Subject: Continental Crawler EP sales info CONTINENTAL CRAWLER: PROMOTIONAL POLLUTION Attention Misfits fans. If you want everything about the Misfits you've got to have this record. It features ex-Misfits drummer Mr. Jim (Jim Catania) who played on such excellent Misfits songs like "Attitude" and "Hollywood Babylon". Mr. Jim's "other" band was Continental Crawler, who put out a limited edition EP with 3 songs in 1979. There are only a few copies left of this rare record which features a picture sleeve and a band picture. You can get a copy by sending $4.00 (check or money order) to: Mike Myers P.O. Box 461 Berkeley Heights, N.J. 07922 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 18:09:15 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Things I Forgot I forgot to mention a few things in my last message. First I was thinking if the digest comes out more frequently then people will respond more frequently and pick up the mail not have 2 - 4 day hiatis of the list. Also I forgot to mention I did see Danzig on June 24th at Ionia Fairgrounds. They played Twist of Cain, How The Gods Kill, Her Black Wings, Its Coming Down and for the encore they played Mother and Dirty Black Summer. The concert was outdoors and Danzig took stage around 7:15pm when the rain kicked in and I think it added to the awsomeness of Danzig's set and unlike Suicidal Tendencies the band was well liked and was not afraid of the weather.. ST cut their set (thank god) after only 4 songs. I also think this is one of the last shows Chuck played because he left at the end of June and was replaced for the rest of the tour and when he wanted to return he was denied to be let back in so this had to be one of his final shows. Even though the weather was crappy Danzig played an awsome 45 minute set and I woulda liked to see them on for another hour they were great. ------------------------------ From: MISFIT20@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 04:04:05 -0500 Subject: see ya Hey, everyone, lets asll take a few seconds to say goodbye to our old pal Jeffrey Dahmer as he goes to meet Lucifer in person. Poor guy. At least the other prisoners didn't eat 'em bhaw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw! --jibberish from the misfit ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 13:23:52 +0100 From: "Wolverine-j." Subject: questions. Hello there........ After a few years of listing to Samhain and Danzig, I`m recently also listing to Misfits. In my opinion they`re not as good as Samhain and Danzig but still more than great. Anyway, I live in Holland and it`s here not so easy to find their music. Especially the singles which are here unavailable. Does someone knows an American Postorder which also delivers in Holland? I recently bought the Earth A.D. Gold disk. It costed $25 (ceedees are here expensive!!) but I wondered how "limited" it is? Was it worth the Money or could I better bought the Earth.ad/ wolfsblood ceedee? wolverine-j. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 36 Thursday, December 1st 1994 Today's Topics: Record prices and whatnot... Danzig and Gwar in indy Re: Misfits Bible, #35 comments from the rabbit for Bible lyrics Waitaminit... Last Time Re: Bible, #35 top 10 Last Issue Danzig conference transcript DanziginBoston Smile? miscellaneous Metallica Show This issue ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 14:50:23 -0400 (CDT) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: Record prices and whatnot... I am sure several people on this list have been record-hunting far enough around the country to give some kind of estimates as to average price for Misfits originals... as for me, if I were going to buy an original I'd just be happy to have it no matter the price as long as I could afford it. The problem for me would be making sure it was actually an original and not some bootleg being passed off as one. Anything not on the discography is obviously a boot, but there are some pretty nice bootleg copies of original 7"s going around out there. As for me, I've been pretty lucky 'cuz I've gone to nice places who sell them at reasonable prices so I know they were boots... but I know it would have been easy for them to have fooled me. Some 7"s like my "Night of the Living Dead" are easy to pick out and do stuff like say "Plan 6" instead of Plan 9... my Cough/Cool and Who Killed Marilyn? have unretouched xeroxes of the original cover, but you can tell they're xeroxes.. and on the inside there's no printing on the labels (plus I ain't optomistic enough to think they were actually selling originals for seven bucks)... but there was a really nice 12" bootleg of Beware which looked exactly like the original (I presume)... not that swirly deranged picture but that photo of Glenn, Jerry, and Bobby(I think? even though Franche was on the record) I've seen on a poster before, and the back cover had a picture from a comic book of a skull with a candle on it, and some little comic strip at the top. I presume this is what the original looks like, but I couldn't see anything distinguishing it from a boot except for the $16 sticker price and the "Made in UK" label identical to the ones I've seen on 7" boots. Mark said he knew how to tell the difference between the original Beware and this boot once... well, how do ya do it? I didn't end up buying it so I don't have it to look at right now. And is it just me, or is there a really authentic- looking Horror Business 7" floating around out there (never bought that one either)? To the Wolverine: I think I read on the sticker from my Earth AD CD that the "limited" edition which contains both Earth AD/Wolfsblood and Die Die My Darling tracks is limited to 100,000 copies. Not too limited, but I suppose not too shabby for finding it in Europe since I imagine it was pressed here in the states. Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ From: "Robinson, James Che" Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 15:16:55 GMT-5 Subject: Danzig and Gwar in indy well from what i know th Danzig show is sold out(how fitting). the Gwar show is on the 12th of dec. $12 at the eastwood theater. and to whoever said that it was their first show here think again. Gwar came to indy all the time when the Ritz was still open some four years ago. well there is my vast amount of knowledge. enjoy! Che robinsoj@coral.indstate.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 15:38:36 EST From: Ryan Stephens Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #35 To all the fiends.... I have to say that Glenn's build is a progress, however it is possible to take 'roids and not have it affect your voice, most pro bodybuilders are testament to that Arnie and Hulk hogan both have atmitted to useing roids. The point being about Danzig size is this, he used to work out much more and it can be seen, now that he is much more busier than he has been in previous years he has lost muscle mass, (don't think that for the Danzig II cover he hadn't done pushups just before the shot). The simple fact is that if you look at the rolling stone Generation Next You Will See That He Has Lost Muscle Mass. However In A Lighter Point Here Are My Ten Favourite Misfits Songs. 1. Skulls 2. Ghouls Night Out 3. Somekindahate 4. Halloween 5. Devil's Whorehouse 6. Green Hell 7. Mommy Can I go out and Kill Tonight? 8. Braineaters 9. Spinal Remains 10. Violent World. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 16:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: "SILLY RABBIT, PUNK IS FOR KIDS" Subject: comments from the rabbit well it has been quite a long time since i(the silly rabbit) have posted. sorry but its been hell around here(school). anyway i've been keeping up with the bible and recently i saw a few posts that disturbed me a little. i thought the thing that made the bible different was the lack of flaming. thats why i stopped subscribing to the p-list and stopped reading newsgroups because bands were the farthest thing from the topic. anyway........... i recently got to hear some misfits stuff i knew about but couldn't get my hands on. i heard children in heat(orig) return of the fly spook city u.s.a. halloween 2 and 3(misfits orig) and some other really cool versions. mostly from original singles and demos. i was really impressed, i thought they were great before but now i'm just amazed. they sounded so much better--the way i kinda thought they should sound. to the steroid issue ---does it change the way the music sounds? the silly rabbit p.s. its too bad jeff didn't get eaten maybe he'd get a taste of his own.... hehehehehehehehe ------------------------------ From: PumroyKJ98%CS28%USAFA@cadetmail3.usafa.af.mil Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 16:08:35 MST Subject: for Bible hello everyone, Not to bore you with where I am, but I'm in a situation where I don't get to hear music, especially of my own taste, very often. Thanksgiving was a treat for me because I got to go back and hear all my favorite Misfits and Samhain tunes that had been running through my head for the last five months. Anyway, I went to my local cool record store and found a two CD boot called "Demonomania Club". Is this a common find? I don't have it with me anymore, but there are three shows on two CD's, I think one is their last show(recorded in Detroit on Oct. 29, 1983 I think is what the CD said). The second CD has one show recorded in NY I think from 1982 and some live stuff from over Christmas '81 in New Jersey. Are these some pretty easy live stuff to find? I had never seen the set mentioned in the bible, yet I am new. Anyway, I feel kinda ripped off because I paid $45 for it. Anyway, tell me your thoughts on the availability and price of this CD set, and if you're interested in one, let me know because I'm pretty sure I could get the guy to find more, or I might trade mine for the right stuff. pum ------------------------------ From: MISFIT20@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 21:46:26 -0500 Subject: lyrics Hey, all. Yer friendly neighborhood misfit sat down for a while and figured out all the lyrics to "Invocation" (IF THAT IS THE RIGHT NAME)(the 66th track on the 4p cd) this is just what i heard. Some of it is not right, but it sounded right. Here ya go: INVOCATION --------------------------- Demon comes it must be called comes to all the sleeping whores he breaks the night and lifts their drawrs demon comes it must be called the demon calles to me at night demon has no other streingth exept to burn the stretching thighs comes to this place to die the demon has but one mistake he is where he should not stay he should not stay but rather go demon has no soul the demon has no soul of such his breath as cold as winters touch his hair the blackest of the night demon offers up his life the demon is not life we know he lives but is ineveble his eyes are of the blackest gold demon has no soul many are the demon's face and many are the forms he takes beware that you don't pleasure one demon comes to frame you up ------------------------------------------ i really do think this is mostly correct any corrections will be welcome later --the misfit might have written this ------------------------------ From: Neil McAllister Subject: Waitaminit... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 23:22:26 -0800 (PST) Crimson Ghost just said that Jerry and Doyle have "a band" -- what's up with that?? I thought they were getting it in gear to go out and be the Misfits again... they already tried that "Jerry and Doyle's other band" crap with Kryst the Konqueror and look where that went! I want the Misfits, dammit.... who cares if Glenn will be the front man or not, there must be a hundred punk rock singers from the old school who could belt out the Misfits' old tunes. That whole style's coming back now, just look at (and listen to) Rancid fer chrissakes! -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@netcom.com) | Santa Cruz, California, USA "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." -- Ben Kenobi ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 08:43:39 -0500 Subject: Last Time Last Time wrote >This is a list called "the Misfits Bible" right? Well, why do we have >to talk about Danzig and Samhain so much? Once upon a time I had the same complaint, but when you think about it how much interesting material can you write about a defunct band? The reason there's so much information about Danzig is that he just put out an album and is currently on tour. When Jerry & Doyle get rolling again I'm sure there will be plenty of postings about them.. Besides if you read the FAQ on the home page this list is called The Misfits Bible and covers *all* bands that were spawned from them. FLAMING: Ok Ok, So I got alittle out of control in my anti flaming comments. I stand corrected. It just pissed me off a bit. I just don't want this list to turn into the Danzig newsgroup. STEROIDS: I have no fucking idea whether he did or not. I base my conclusion on certain comments that were made to me by Jerry's Mother. she said (and I paraphrase) Glenn never did a days work in his life. She also says that Glenn was on of the laziest people she ever met in her life. Remember that she is speaking of a Glenn in his early 20's and people can change, but I am sceptical of this. I was not trying to be accusatory in any way. I was just trying to open his eyes to another possibility. Glenn is *not* a god, he is human. All I'm saying is; I wouldn't hold it past him to do this in order to better his image in the eyes of his target audience. Sorry Brent but I can't help this. Last time you wrote: >it is possible to get that huge w/o steroids. I went from the >perverbial 98-pound weakling to six foot two and 220 pounds in maybe >four years (?). It was all steroid-free, it was just alot of of >lifting and eating. Are you sure your not mistaking your gain with puberty??? Like I said I just couldn't help it ;-) BTW- Mark, The Grimson Ghost Gif you put up on the ftp site is fantastic as windows wallpaper. It looks great tiled - To use a GIF file as wallpaper you must use a program like Photolab.exe to convert it. +----------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | | | | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +----------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:51:57 -0800 From: "Ricky Hinojos" Subject: Re: Bible, #35 RE> Bible, #35 11/30/94 > Anyway, why dont we just concentrate on the Misfits? Because the Misfits have so much to do with Danzig. You won't find a lot of people in cyberspace who were listening to Misfits when they were around. As a result, you're not going to get a lot of stories about the concerts. From all the Bibles I have, I gather that the Bible is for people to express how the Misfits and Glenn's other bands/projects have affected their lives. Besides, three consecutive issues of "Huh, huh uhu huh, the Misfits are cool" gets really boring. I think it's assumed you are a Danzig fan, if you take time to e-mail Mark for a subscription. I doubt a person who doesn't like Glenn at all would subscribe, except to flame, but getting rid of them in e-mail is simple compared to getting someone kicked out of a newsgroup. If you don't like Glenn's other stuff, then either give *good* reasons why you don't like it (*not* "it sucks, end of argument") or get flamed for your inability to prove a point. > If he did use steriods I would have to disagree his voice would be like it is. Proof of steroid use: "cantspeak" =) Honestly, I believe Glenn is a naturally burly guy. Yes, they do exist. My brother happens to be one, and, to my knowledge, he doesn't know what a steroid is. =) BTW, I like "cantspeak", very different from his other material; it's also one of Chuck's finest moments on record. > I am even skipping out on Gwar... How could you? Their albums rock, although I haven't had a chance to see them yet. I was going to see them once, but my friend's insigificant other =) forbade him from attending the show. [grumble, grumble, gnash my teeth together, steam comes out of my ears...] > Hey, everyone, lets all take a few seconds to say goodbye to our old pal > Jeffrey Dahmer as he goes to meet Lucifer in person. I will miss him. :( > Poor guy. At least the other prisoners didn't eat 'em. You don't know what they did after "lights out". :) As a scroll to delete the rest, I see that the mailing list keeps getting bigger and bigger. How many subscribers are you up to now, Mark? How many of you lurk or post on alt.music.danzig? IMHO, the group doesn't specifically say Danzig the man or Danzig the band. So I just use it as alt.music.glenn, for all his work. And you can flame out there without any hurt feelings. =) The Lollipop Kid ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 14:38:22 -0500 From: She Subject: top 10 here are my top ten by band, more or less... misfits ------- 1 she 2 return of the fly 3 london dungeon 4 hollywood babylon 5 last caress 6 some kinda hate 7 angelfuck 8 night of the living dead (7" version) 9 theme for a jackal 10 bloodfeast samhain ------- 1 archangel 2 the shift 3 mother of mercy 4 samhain 5 the birthing 6 to walk the night 7 he-who-can-not-be-named 8 unholy passion 9 let the day begin 10 moribund undead ------ 1 misfit 2 when the evening comes 3 never say die 4 put your clothes back on 5 verbal abuse 6 i dont'w anna go 7 undead 8 nightmare 9 i want you dead 10 lies (even though it's a cover) danzig ------ 1 when death had no name 2 violet fire 3 twist of cain 4 end of cain 5 sistinas 6 devil's plaything 7 going down to die 8 how the gods kill 9 pain in the world 10 it's coming down kryst ----- thunder thruster spellbound wherever i roam the rest..... i guess that's about right..... mark ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Last Issue Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 15:44:57 EST According to Yannis: > > This is a list called "the Misfits Bible" right? Well, why do we have > to talk about Danzig and Samhain so much? If I want to talk generally > about (Glenn) Danzig I'll go to alt.music.danzig. BTW, are most posts in > that newsgroup idiotic or what? Anyway, why dont we just > concentrate on the Misfits? Or maybe you think this list should be > renamed : The Glenn_Danzig_and_his_bands Bible?? Never! This is not just Glenn Danzig and his bands. Or that's not the way it was intended. I like to think that I give the same attention to Glenn that I give to Jerry and Doyle or Bobby or whoever. It's just that most of the other peopl eon this list are into Glenn's stuff. As soon as Jerry and Doyle get going, we'll have more to talk about. Hopefully anyway.... The fool said: > So what is fair market value for original Misfits & Samhain stuff? I have > generally been at the whim of the dealer, having to assume that he's > actually charging a reasonable price. This is bad, especially in > auctions. I have the impression that around $60-70 is the usual price for > alot of the singles, but what about the rarer ones? What about the > albums? As far as Samhain goes, you can buy just about anything used for 6-10 dollars. This doesn't include colored vinyl which should go from $40-60 or Unholy Passion 12" which can be found for $6 in some places and $80 in others. It really depends on the dealer. As far as the Misfits go, I don't think any of the 7" singles should be any more than $100 and I would never pay that much myself anyway. I'm looking for a reasonable deal about half that price. None of the reissued albums should be more than $8-$10 and even the first prints of those (which look almost identical to most people) shouldn't be that e expensive. Except of course, Walk Among Us. The 2nd press of that I got and see often for about $30. The original is more expensive. And the reissue is cheap as shit. In my opinion, only Beware should be in the triple digits. I"ve never seen that for sale less than $250. azrael said: > I forgot to mention a few things in my last message. First I was > thinking if the digest comes out more frequently then people will respond > more frequently and pick up the mail not have 2 - 4 day hiatis of the list. Back in the old days when this used to come out more often, people complained and some unsubscribed, so I try to keep it going out twice a week. Even as it is, I sometimes think it should go out just once a week because the Thursday issue is usually pretty small. > Also I forgot to mention I did see Danzig on June 24th at Ionia > Fairgrounds. What state is this in? > I also think this is one of the last shows Chuck played because > he left at the end of June and was replaced for the rest of the tour and > when he wanted to return he was denied to be let back in so this had to > be one of his final shows. Interesting... Is this true? I was led to believe that Chuck left after the Metallica tour ended. That would have been a week and a half after you saw them. I know some pepole on this list were at the 7/3/94 show. Who was drummer then? Was it Joey or Chuck or someone else? The wolverine said: > Anyway, I live in Holland and it`s here not so easy to find their music. > Especially the singles which are here unavailable. Does someone knows an > American Postorder which also delivers in Holland? Semi-Automatic Mail Order sells releases by Caroline which means that anything in print by Misfits or Samhain can easily be acquired from them: Semi Automatic Mail-Order P.O. Box 2759 New York, NY 10116-2759 phone: 1-800-236-6724 email: semiauto@sonicnet.com mark ------------------------------ Subject: Danzig conference transcript Date: 28 Nov 1994 16:35:35 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) From: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Danzig - Cyber-Talk, November 14, 1994 Max Warner : Hello everybody... we will begin in a few moments. Glenn is live from Mesa, Arizona tonight. OnlineHost : Welcome to CYBER-TALK! CYBER-TALK (TM) is Warner/ Reprise Online's weekly interactive talk show. Each segment of CYBER-TALK (TM) features a different music persona. Tonight's guests will be Glenn Danzig, leader of the American Recordings' alternative band DANZIG. Danzig will be discussing the group's new album, "Danzig 4", produced by Glenn Danzig and Rick Rubin. Welcome! Max Warner : Glenn is GleDanzig MsAmerica : What does the "p" stand for? GleDanzig : Find out yourself. MsAmerica : When does your comic book come out? GleDanzig : They're out now--the Frazetta pencil book and Alphabet of Murder are out now. Verotika #1 comes out this Wednesday. WEILAND36 : Do you like being with Danzig or did you perfere being in The Misfits? GleDanzig : Danzig. VeldaG532 : Glenn, What do you think of the Detroit scene?Where's your fave place to play at when in Detroit? GleDanzig : Is there a Detroit scene? Anywhere in Detroit is fine, we've always had a great audience in Detroit. Tens4life : What inspired the song "Mother"? GleDanzig : The PMRC and parents who forget what it's like to be kids, what it's like to grow up. JRock985 : GLENN, are you going to come out with a video for your latest song? GleDanzig : MTV refused to play the video for "Until You Call on the Dark." The video for "Can'tspeak" should be out the end of November. Let's see if MTV plays this. PaulB465 : is it true that James Hetfield helped sing in Twist of Cain? GleDanzig : Yes. He was in L.A. and we were hanging out. I had to go finish vocals on the LP & he sang backup on "Twist of Cain" and "Am I Demon" KWald1894 : Do you think that you will have a hit as big as "Mother" on this album? GleDanzig : Who cares? Tara2000 : You have the SEXIEST voice I've EVER heard. Did you take lessons? GleDanzig : No RWatk7412 : ARE YOU A MAJOR METALLICA FAN AS THEY ARE A MAJOR FAN OF YOURS? GleDanzig : We're not a major fan of theirs. They're a major fan of ours. Alyister : what does it feel like to have recorded more than four kick ass albums GleDanzig : Great, what does it feel like to have at least four kick ass albums in your collection? Member777 : How do you compare the cult status of the Misfits to the recent success of Danzig? GleDanzig : Even the early following of Danzig was much much larger than the following the Misfits had so I'm pretty much used to it. Samhain66 : What is the tatoo on your lower back a tatoo of? GleDanzig : It's Japanese letters. Phil m 7 : You kick. I love the song sistinas. What started you in music? GleDanzig : It was either that or go to jail. Samhain66 : Are we going to see any of your artwork in any of the comics you'll be publishing? GleDanzig : I designed most of the characters and logos. Tool95 : What are your musical influences? GleDanzig : Everything from classical to Elvis to Black Sabbath. Godsend 5 : Just curious about when the Samhain box set that you mentioned on MTV will be out. GleDanzig : Hopefully this summer. Matth2713 : Whats up. I photographed your show on aug 3, 93 and interviewed you on the phone the week before. I know youve heard it before , but you are a huge musical influnce for myself and my band. I have great respect for your talent. --Matt GleDanzig : Thanks, Matt. Keep playing. Ouarda : Hey, man. What's track 66's title? Very cool use of the harmonium! GleDanzig : Thanks, that's called "Invocation," it's only on the CD. Djwhill : Where did you get your belt buckle? GleDanzig : I had it made. CTernes : Are you planning on doing any SamHain or Misfits songs during your shows? GleDanzig : No. But you never know. FRNKRIZZO : How much do ya bench there tough guy? GleDanzig : Not much. I'm more into bodybuilding than weight lifting. AJSIESSER : how many guitars do you have, and what kind? GleDanzig : I have two guitars. A solid body Les Paul and an old Dan Armstrong semi-hollow. GoingDn2D : What inspired goin down to die? GleDanzig : Accepting death as part of the cycle of life. GizMo5000 : What do you like best about your fame? GleDanzig : I don't know. Sometimes it sucks, but playing live is a great feeling. Tyriu : What do the symbols stand for on Danzig 4? Or at least what language are they? GleDanzig : Runes. It's a secret magical alphabet. They are from the Vehemic German Inquisition. Broyhill : What special instruments did you use on 4p? GleDanzig : A harmonium and electric sitar. Dark Lo73 : Will the comic books be available in all stores or only through mailorder? GleDanzig : Both. If your store won't get them for you, you can order direct from Verotik. Lord Shak : What would you say is your best album overall? GleDanzig : The new one. Eerie and I also have a fondness for Samhain 3, November-Coming-Fire. JamesH105 : Was there someone who inspired the song, " Her Black Wings? ' GleDanzig : Many. FarmBoy3 : How does it feel to be worshiped by hundreds of thousands of young women?? GleDanzig : I don't know if that's accurate, but if it is--fantastic. Tara2000 : What is your favorite song to perform? GleDanzig : It changes from night to night. I love doing "Stalker Song." Lunatik13 : I was wondering. . .what method do you use to write songs? Music then lyrics or just the opposite? GleDanzig : I have no set rules. DerekRei : When you were with the Misfits, you used a lot of B-movie ideas in your songs... Why don't you do that anymore? GleDanzig : My use of B-movie ideas may be overinterpreted. Social Edelmar : Was that a real chicken that your tore over that babe in the Mother Video real, or was it a rubber chicken? GleDanzig : It was real and I didn't kill it. Stony3924 : whom do you prefer, beavis or butthead? GleDanzig : Butthead. RLemmon : What is the craziest thing that you have ever done at a concert? GleDanzig : There's been so many, I'll let you sort them out. Gabri1020 : What martial arts did you train in? GleDanzig : Muay Thai, Jeet Kune Do, Filipino knife and stick fighting, and wrestling. Flan dog : Who's your role model? GleDanzig : Nobody, really. JAZZ09127 : you have so much raw energy...do you ever feel "burned out" performing live? GleDanzig : You can get burned out very easily on the road. The trick is to always be ready for the next show. BCON67 : What types of music do you enjoy listening to besides metal? Specific bands? GleDanzig : Lots of different types. Too many to list here. JowyG3117 : Glenn, I always wanted to know, are you a atheist, satanist, or a Christian like myfriends say you are? GleDanzig : All and none. Religion is bulls**t. CaptTal1 : Your music is very dark both in lyrical content and music. What started you in that direction? GleDanzig : Life. NIK13 : What was it like working with Johnny Cash and the late Roy Orbison? GleDanzig : Great. They were both really great guys and very humble, especially considering their accomplishments. StucP : Why did you get rid of Chuck? GleDanzig : Chuck quit on the Metallica tour. After the tour he wanted to rejoin and the band didn't want him back because of his personal problems. We couldn't trust him to perform at every show. It might have meant canceling shows, and we didn't feel that would be fair to the fans. Godsend 5 : Have you produced any other bands besides Kinghorse? GleDanzig : No. SLTedesco : Any plans to tour the midwest with the new album? GleDanzig : Yes, we'll be there soon. Check your local venue. Max Warner : Check the Warner Forum for all Danzig's confirmed tour dates Mr Zee 1 : I love your new song CANT SPEAK......whats the inspiration?? GleDanzig : That was an experiment of mine. I took a backwards song, put a beat to it, and started singing. The result is "Can'tspeak." Dirk0013 : I saw your show saturday at Mesa Amph. It was Great. Do you prefer large arenas or smaller clubs? GleDanzig : I don't like arenas. My favorite gig is 3,000-5,000 theatre. Mesa Amphitheatre is one of those. It was a great show. Max Warner : We will have Glenn answer a few more questions and then call it a night. Sorry we could not answer all of them GoingDn2D : You are awesome. Danzig is my favorite group and always will be. Have you read any good books lately? GleDanzig : Yes. The Encyclopedia of Satanic Cults and Murderers. H2OPOLOS4 : Why all the Scriptual allusion in your song titles? GleDanzig : Why not? Max Warner : Last question... ParkerGAT : Lately there has been much talk about Jagger and Richards being 50+ and still playing rock-n-roll; where do you see yourself at that age? GleDanzig : Dead. Max Warner : That was great. Glenn, thanks for stopping in and answering some questions. Max Warner : Well... That will wrap it up. Glenn, thanks again!! Danzig fanclub info is as follows: Danzig Fanclub: Angels of the Seventh Dawn P.O. Box 67276 Los Angeles, 90067 Telephone Hotline: 213-489-6164 Max Warner : See ya. Copyright (C) 1994 Warner Bros. Records. CYBER-TALK (TM) is produced in house by a Warner Bros. Records staff. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:31:23 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: DanziginBoston Hey, The following is an article written in the Boston Phoenix this week, cause Danzig was in Harvard Square. Since the paper is only accesible in Boston I figured id post it, cause it talks about not just Danzig but the Misfits alot. If you think its too long, who cares. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:32:41 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: Smile? SMILE? Glenn Danzig spreads a little darkness and joy American Recordings honcho Rick Rubin is fond of pointing out-- in a spooky mysterious tone-- that blues legend Willie Dixon's death coincided with his plans to record with Glenn Danzig. He also maintains that Danzig was in Roy Orbison's company the night before Mr. Pretty Woman passed on. Rubin-- who hides behind a Sasquatch-like beard and dark sunglasses-- reportedly has a standing order to his bands not to smile when being photographed. Not that anyone ever had to tell Glenn Danzig when to scowl. He's complying quite convincingly at an impromptu shoot in Harvard Square when a beat cop wanders by."Hey, it's a nice day," the cop chimes."Give us a smile!" Everyone tenses. The center spread of Danzig 4p, after all, is a photo showing a phalanx of carbine-armed troopers standing over Danzig's dead body. And a cop just told Glenn Danzig-- brooding heavy metal titan, fervent anti-establishment champion, and the all-around angry guy who fronted the notorious horror punk Misfits-- to cheer up. This could get ugly. But it doesn't. Danzig concedes a smile-- a tight, roguish smirk-- and politely, but briefly, shoots the breeze with the cop. In another time, on another street corner, the result might have been drastically different. But at 35 years old, in a career spanning nearly two decades, Danzig is learning to chose his battles. And perhaps his artistic satisfaction with 4p-- the culmination thus far of his vision of Danzig the band-- has enabled him to scratch out a little piece of mind. For Danzig, that's no little thing."It's very hard, because on one hand I can be a very violent person. To not be violent in a lot of situations I'm in is very, very hard." Here's a story: a little while back, J.L. O'Barr, author of THE CROW, began publishing a lesser-known series starring a character named Danzig who bore a striking resemblance to you- know-who. The real-life Danzig ran into O'Barr at a club and offered him a choice: cease and desist or suffer the consequences."And since I don't put that much stock in the legal system," Danzig recalls telling him,"that means you're going to have a BIG problem. I'm not just talking broken legs here, either." "I used to be a marine," O'Barr shot back. "You can keep talking like that when you're lying in a box with your arms crossed," Danzig said quietly. The comic-book character has not been heard from since. Back in Harvard Square, though it's barely past noon, it could be dawn or dusk for all the dimness of Danzig's hotel room; the lights are off, the shades are drawn. He's dressed in black from head to toe: cowboy boots, jeans, and a snug-fitting long- sleeved T-shirt with the sleeves pulled up his forearms. His black, shoulder-length hair is just beginning to thin on top, and the slightest bit of gray creeps at his temples. He speaks with a commanding deliberation. "This album is a big turning point for me," he says, explaining that writing and arranging Danzig 4p-- especially it's uncharacteristically introspective material-- has given him "a chance to go even further than I've dreamed of going. Some of the songs on here I'm surprised I had in me. Because, y'know, I've written a lot of fucking songs." With a history that includes seminal punk outfits the Misfits, their goth-thrash reincarnation as Samhain, and the matallic fusion that now bears his name, Danzig does have quite a few songs under his belt. He's even got a few wild cards thrown in: Black Aria, a six-song orchestral soundtrack/instrumental composition; "Life Fades Away," a song he wrote for Roy Orbison that's included on the soundtrack for the 1987 movie LESS THAN ZERO; and "Thirteen," a spare country number he penned for Johnny Cash's latest, AMERICAN RECORDINGS. Despite his versatility, Danzig 4p still comes as something of a surprise. It exudes a focus and depth that have been only hinted at since Rubin signed him and helped streamline Samhain's shifting, multi-layered roar into the tight, spartan metal arrangements of the first Danzig album. On his last two CDs, the focus has been restoring some of the texture that Rubin's early productions omitted."On HOW THE GODS KILL I got to produce the whole thing, which was great," Danzig says. "The last two records-- Rick and I worked together a little better. Rick sat back on the third record and got an idea of what we wanted.Eerie[Von,bass] and I wanted to bring back a Samhain thing, more of the moods, the different layers." But HOW THE GODS KILL came out uneven. With Rubin and Danzig collaborating on 4p, they seem to have struck a balance. "Brand New God" churns and squalls like the best of Samhain, yet the album's big surprise is a batch of three songs("Cantspeak," "Going Down to Die," and "Let It Be Captured") distinguished by their restraint. "You know what's funny?" he says. "Everyone's saying, 'Wow, you put piano on this, huh?' And I've had piano on every record since the Misfits. 'Theme for a Jackal' is just a one-chord song-- it's just ONE CHORD-- and it's piano." As a musician, Danzig is self-taught."I have two older brothers, and I just always heard loud music constantly. I remember seeing Elvis on TV. The first live band I saw was Black Sabbath with Ozzy. I think after that I saw Alice Cooper." His first gig as a singer was in a band who played Willie Dixon, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, and some blues originals-- and Black Sabbath covers. During his early days in New Jersey, he developed what became one of the most distinctive voices in punk rock-- a vibrato that he bandied like a vegas crooner on a bender in hell. Donning black leather and skull-and-crossbones T-shirt and dropping a greasy shard of his hair in his face (they called em' devil locks), Danzig stepped out with three like-minded rejects in 1977 and became the Misfits-- a collage of '50s B-movies, horror comics, and pop-culture nightmares funneled into two- minute bursts of frightful and often surprisingly catchy punk- rock epiphany. But could they possibly be for real? Skulls hanging from guitars? Songs about JFK, Halloween, and RETURN OF THE FLY? While everyone else was trying to figure out the answer, the kids were eating it up. Although the Misfits took on the roles of serial killers, Astro Zombies, or Teenagers from Mars, their lyrics resounded with adolescent thematic archetypes: alienation, frustration,rejection,awkwardness,solitude. Lines like "All I want is the world" and "I'm just waiting to exterminate this whole fuckin' place" could have been written by a Martian;they could also have been written in math class. "I think bands like us and a few other bands, certainly Black Flag, were doing something different that nobody understood," Danzig says. "We were all doing it at about the same time. Black Flag in LA, the Bad Brains in DC. And Henry Rollin's[pre-Black Flag] band,SOA, and Minor Threat. And there was SOMETHING:musically-- it was harder, of course than other stuff. And nobody got it. Just like nobody gets it now. I mean, the kids get it, but the press don't. As much as they try to be hip, they don't get it." But there were enough people who did, so by the time the Misfits ended, Glenn Danzig had become a minor legend. In his memoir GET IN THE VAN, Henry Rollins conveys his respect for the Misfits not so much in what he says but in the awe with which he describes seeing them for the first time. Even within the small circle of bands pushing punk to the next level, they had a palpable mystique. "I think until about '80-'81, originality was a plus," says Danzig."I noticed once a lot of straightedge bands came around-- and MAXIMUM ROCKnROLL came out-- it was,'Look like this, speak like this, talk like this, be politically correct and you'll fit in.' It was the reverse side of fascism. And a lot of people played up to that. If they didn't , they didn't get covered in MAXIMUM ROCKnROLL, except to get slagged. We got a lot of shit. People want to regulate what you believe. I don't buy that. It goes against everything that I felt punk was about, before it was even called punk." If there's anything that threatens to overshadow Danzig's music, it's his image. Media-friendly is not in his vocabulary."The reason I get fucked with by the press constantly is because I tell everyone to fuck off, and they don't like that. Because they think they're very powerful, and that you should be respecting them because they're in this magazine and they can do so much for your career. I don't play their game. It's either lets do a real interview, about music, or about life. You wanna talk about life? Well, life doesn't have easy problems." And his solutions are not politically sanitized. At a time when the media are hyper-sensitized to the glamorization of violence, his macho bravado is an easy target. But he's confronting his own destructive impulses in the best way he knows how, and he's not too worried if that rubs people the wrong way. I read him a quote from Johnny Cash:"I don't know about you or anyone else, but there's a good side and a bad side to me, and every day it's a battle to keep the good side winning." "I can understand that," he chuckles. "It's not so much that it's a battle for me to keep the 'good side winning.' What is the good side, y'know? The way I see it is that the line are a little more blurry with me. It's very hard to keep an even take on things-- especially when you've got a gun in your face or something. So it depends on the situation. Usually one side in bad situations will dominate. Now I don't really try to keep either side winning. I just try to stay in the middle somewhere and it balances out." -----BY CARLY CARIOLI BOSTON PHOENIX, November 25, 1994... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 23:50:07 -0500 (EST) From: Katherine T Sumner Subject: miscellaneous I'm trying to put off my history paper as long as possible. . . . > From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi > > This is a list called "the Misfits Bible" right? Well, why do we have > to talk about Danzig and Samhain so much? If I want to talk generally > about (Glenn) Danzig I'll go to alt.music.danzig. I don't go to alt.music.danzig because I don't get it. A lot of people don't, since it never went through official channels for approval. Some people (I think our sponsor may be one) don't go there because they just don't like Usenet. I have to admit a list gives a more "cozy" feeling. Danzig-the-group gets talked about a lot because it is the only active band right now. If you want to talk more about the Misfits, why not try to start a conversation yourself? You must have some input. . . . As for the name being misleading . . . I have to disagree. The list isn't just for Glenn Danzig's bands, it's for anyone who had any sort of connection whatsoever with the Misfits. The Undead or Kryst, for example. Should we slap a "Glenn Danzig" label on them? [damn...lost my attributions...] > I forgot to mention a few things in my last message. First I was > thinking if the digest comes out more frequently then people will respond > more frequently and pick up the mail not have 2 - 4 day hiatis of the list. Nah. The list came out everyday at first and that was ridiculous. It's hard enough for me to keep up with it now, because of my non-Misfits obligations (yes, I have a few). Also the list has grown considerably. When it's twice-weekly, I get the opportunity to read it before three more have piled up, and maybe even respond. > I recently bought the Earth A.D. Gold disk. It costed $25 (ceedees are here > expensive!!) but I wondered how "limited" it is? Was it worth the Money or > could I better bought the Earth.ad/ wolfsblood ceedee? 1. I'm not sure what you are talking about. I wasn't aware of an Earth A.D. cd besides the gold disk and the one with Evilive (is that what you are talking about? I thought it was waaay out of print!). 2. How limited is it? That's a question I was thinking of asking the list myself. I think I heard the figure of 15,000, but I can't verify it for you. Whether it's worth it or not--who knows? I bought a vinyl copy of Walk Among Us, which was a cut-out. That means there was a BIG excess at one time. Now they are real collector's items. 3. Thanks, you did me a real favor. I got out both my cd copies of Earth A.D. and discovered that the Evilive version is missing one track: Mommy. So I know that *I* didn't waste my money buying the gold version, cause it has an extra song :) (no, I *don't* feel negligent overlooking that for years! I have hundreds of cds to keep track of, you expect me to notice one lousy song?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 02:20:17 -0500 From: Slowdive Subject: Metallica Show Does anyone have a bootleg of the time Glenn sung with Metallica. I know there is a bootleg of the recent show (7/3/94) but I'm wondering about the show at the Stone in San Francisco in January of '89. Who played what instruments? James and Kirk from Metallica joined Danzig on stage for some songs. Does that mean that John just left the stage or what? Does anyone know? sunday ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 11:15:07 -0500 From: She Subject: This issue Here we go, this issue is by far the largest ever. This is what happens when there are 110 of us.... mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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"Danzig" Bible, top10, and some other stuff substance advice please Last episode: My danzig show what's happening on the tour DAnzig in INdy and a public apology ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WL262042@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Thu, 01 Dec 1994 12:18:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Baltimore Show The Baltimore (Glen Burnie, whatever) show was the best concert I've ever been to! I left Wheeling monday night, and got home (In eastern WVA) around 3:am My friend and I left there around noon and got to Baltimore around three. The show wasn't till 7 or 8, so we had a while, It was us and about 15 other guys around the back of Michael's Ballroom. About 4:30 a big green and silver Bus almost ran into my car as it pulled into the back lot. John Christ was sitting in the front next to the driver. We all walked over to where it parked, and the guys came out and went into the back of the hall. After a while, we heard the soundchecks, and "Dirty Black Summer" vibrated the walls of the place. We waited. About 5:30, Glenn Came out and gave autographs for the small group of people around back. He sat on the steps in the bus and people took turns talking to him and shaking hands with him. I was scared he wouldn't sign my shirt (since I made it myself) but he saw that it wasn't a bootleg, and signed it to me. I was surprised at how friendly and polite he was. After we got his autograph, we went around front and got in line. Godflesh was first, and their set was kind of short. They weren.t bad, tho. People started to get excited when Type-O came on. I don't know their mucis, but they did a half-speed, evil sounding version of Sabbath's Paranoid. After they went off, it was a long while before The stage was ready fot Danzig. We were real close, in front of the pit even (we were in the pit for the other bands) I was hanging on the rail when they came on. (If you want to be surprised, don't read this ) They played a while, Brand New God, Little Whip, Call on the Dark, then It's Coming Down, Snakes, HTGK, Dirty Black Summer, Left Hand Black, Mother, Twist Of Cain, She Rides (loud!), Going Down to Die, Stalker Song, Long Way Back, and some others. The encore was killer, too. I'll leave it at that. Anyway, It was a great time, We had to move back early in the set, because it was so loud the backup vocals hurt. We went back right behind the pits, and it was plenty close. I've never been that close to any band, had no trouible seeing, (or Hearing) Bt the way, it was John's home town, so he spent the night with a big grin on his face, and probable had as good a time as the rest of us. Sean M. ------------------------------ From: "Robinson, James Che" Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 14:34:40 GMT-5 Subject: bobby and sloppy Has anyone heard the sloppy seconds/bobby steele cover of where egales dare? it's kind of old but i got it on 7" it's pretty good it is also out on a sloppy cd any thoughts? che ------------------------------