Misfits Bible, Number 51 Thursday, January 26th 1995 Today's Topics: stuff Names, Nooz, Noses "Little Whip" Glenn's name Answers Danzig is a city... Danzig's name Misfits Bible #49 and #50 Is there any... evilive vinyl Not much new to add, just comments on #50 Interviews, Punk, G.D Vs Misfits etc... The homepage...a question 50th Bible Some stuff... I forgot to tell you... Re: MISFITS!!! Danzig Lettering ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 11:40:05 -0500 From: She Subject: stuff Chris says: > I just wanted to thank everyone for > being so cool, especially Mark, who's the reason I'm writing this you're quite welcome, i couldn't do it withouth all of you... Wandering asks: > An intreging thought occured to me, upon finishing reading the most recent > Misfits bible...what exactly is Glenn Danzig's real name? > > Danzig is, was, a thin body of water connecting the Artic Ocean and some > sea or another, in Russia somewhere, i believe...the name has been changed, > and it might actually be another type of geographic feature....but i know > for certain that it did exist to the east of Finland, Norway, etc... > > Thus, while it is possible that Glenn Danzig IS his real name, the more i > think about it, the more unlikely it seems...so, does anybody out there > know what exactly his real name is, or is my suspecion entirely erronious? Glenn's real last name is Anzalone. According to Jerry Only's brother, Glenn probably chose Danzig as his name because of some evil associated with it. pbright > > Also, does anybody have the Verotik address in Roseville, CA? I can't for the > life of me find it, and we're having NO LUCK getting comics stores in B'ton to Here you go: Verotik 4010 Foothills Blvd Suite 317-377 Roseville, CA 95747 (913) 774-6310 evb asks: > Bobby's ENGAGED? This is what Bobby told me when I talked to him on the phone in September. Of course, now that I think about it, he may have said girlfriend or fiance, I don't remember which. mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 13:24:27 -0400 (EST) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: Names, Nooz, Noses Some 'a you unenlightened PRE-verts oughtta be checkin' out that world-wide web page before askin' questions such as the True Name of the Beast which'll prompt like a zillion redundant responses! As for all these Verotik books I keep hearing about I don't believe they exist! I've never seen any of em. But Indiana comic book shops suck. At least these days they seem to. Startin' up a line of comix is probably something I'd do if I had a crapload of money, but that distribution thing must be difficult. Hey, everybody knows real punk is that stuff you burn to keep the bugs away... Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 13:00:25 -0800 (PST) From: godzilla Subject: "Little Whip" If you guys like Tim Vigil's t-shirt design for "Little Whip", you might want to checkout the shirt he did for NORTHSTAR comics. ------------------------------ From: DarkLo730@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 15:55:09 -0500 Subject: Glenn's name The place that was called Danzig is now called Gdansk. It used to part of Germany(Prussia to be more specific). After WW II it became part of poland. mike ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:45:13 -0500 Subject: Answers My Creepy Compilation says Goletto Center for 2/83. As for the summer tour. The second song at 7/3 was Snakes of Christ (I have a crappy boot). BUT, if you notice, Brand New God does have a slower portion. When I saw it live, I thought it was two songs also, however now that I listen to it, it is clearly the one, Brand New God. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 19:05:58 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: Danzig is a city... Danzig was a city in Prussia, one of the German states. After World War II it was given to Poland and is now called Gdansk. As for Danzig not changing much since Samhain... the first two Danzig albums sounded like AC/DC with Morrison singing (but they did rock, if you ignored their connection to the Misfits). I remember hearing the first Danzig album when it first came out and I was like "what the hell? This is weak." Its grown on me since, but I think they went downhill after that. They stopped rockin and Glenn sarted doing that weird warbling yell. I had trouble sitting through 4p the first time I heard it. However, I think it's ok now. The other way I think Danzig went wrong was when they started taking the "evil" thing seriously. Give me a break. I was rolling on the floor the first time I heard "Invocation". Well, enough of that...If anyone knows where I could get a copy of "Beware and the Rest", let me know. Actually the Misfits played in 83 across the street from where I live. Dempz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 19:33:46 EST From: Haskin Douglas CDT Subject: Danzig's name To anybody who ever wondered what Danzig meant- Danzig, also known as Gdansk, is a port city in Poland. It lies at the mouth of the Vistula River on the Baltic Sea. Historically, Danzig was a primary objective of the Nazis when they invaded Poland in 1939. The Nazis sort of beat the shit out of the city and its inhabitants. I heard somewhere that it was one of the bloodiest battles in WWII. I think that's about it, but I could've missed something. Anybody else know anything about this? Also, thanks to L. Dodsworth and Angela for working on some tapes for me. -Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 16:44:11 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Flemming Subject: Misfits Bible #49 and #50 Well lucky me it's seems as though I set some flame bait that really wasn't intended. I think that Crimson may have misunderstood me. I guess to save my mail spool I better clarify. >From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:18:43 -050 >Subject: Last time >Robert, Who gives a flying fuck if it's not *real punk*. What exactly >makes a band *real punk*. What, do you have to be dead like Sid and >Stiv, or maybe really weird like Glenn, or just plain stupid like Jello. >Why must everything have a certain moniker attached to it? Are we as a >society that anal that everything must be filed away under the correct titles? Great question what did make those bands punk? Somehow the name got created and it stuck. They were doing something different, something unique. I (just me though) tend to think of punk as the post disco pre new wave era. I personally dig the late seventies early eighties "punk" much more than what they call "punk" today. If you had to classify (as this anal society does do) would you plop Mozart and Yanni in the same category? They both write/wrote instrumental pieces, that are frequently performed by orchestras etc. But Yanni is new age and Mozart is classical. I guess that's the way I kinda think of. A hundred years from now I guess Yanni will be classical, but what will Mozart be...way classical? You got it right though, if you like it buy it. That was never my point. I was a bit bummed at the way music IS being classified. I was never saying that all these new bands suck. >As far as turning punk into this "capitalistic thing". Don't even think for >one minute that if back in 1977 a record company said to Johnny Rotten "Jump >and we'll give you 6 million beans" that he wouldn't have said, "excuse me, >how high would you like me to jump Sir". I find it strange to find things like "punk" and "grunge" to be fashionable. Nirvana comes out of Seattle, they get classified as grunge, they get popular, the music industry converges on Seattle, what comes next, models strutting down the runway in flannel and docs. What's next Grungyoes breakfast cereal? When was the last time you saw an eighth grader riding around on a skateboard wearing a Dead Kennedys, or Ramones beanie? The media is the one to blame. I didn't make the rules, but I'm forced to live with what is shoved down my throat by Manipulation TV and Corporate radio. The SF Weekly here had an article that said "Pop goes Punk" is that right? I tend to think that "Punk has gone Pop". On to the next guy: >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 03:57:55 -0500 (EST) >From: Gabriel Palczewski >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #49 >I think Offspring and Green Day are punk. West coast punk. They seem >to attract more to the skater scene out there. Thats where Green Day >started and I have like 2 skater friends who were into the Offspring and >Green Day and Penney Wise and all those bands before they hit it big. So >they seem to get a rather large crowd there and they are what punk has >become in the 90's I guesse. Yeah you may have a point. I don't know how big they are on the west coast so I can't say. But living in Berkeley (where Green Day came from) and a block away from Billy Joe (no joke), I guess I'm kinda in Green Day central and pretty damn sick of them. When they were nobodies they used to play free shows on campus, should I hold my breath for one now? How many people know that Offspring has 3 albums and an EP, and Green Day has 4 I do believe? Not many, why because no one is going to play the music that made these bands what they are, they'd rather play "When I come around" every hour on the hours as a type of Big Ben with a power chord bell tower. > Nirvana tried to hold on to that weird factor of punk I guesse. >Its rare that there is anymore of what was left in the 80's. Now Rancid >is starting to get buzz apeal and around here Bad Religion is getting >pretty good radio play. Try G.G. Allen if your looking for weird. I bet you only hear stuff off of the new Bad Religion album though. I would look for NOFX to be the next big alternawonder band. =) I have a friend who too was into Offspring years ago. He played on one of their old tapes for a guy once and he hated it, but when that damn "Keep em separated" song came out he suddenly decided he loved them. I think people in general need to listen to more music and stop buying their Cds at Tower and head down the block to Zed's punk-o-rama. You want grunge; check out 16 or Crom, not Pearl Jam and Temple of the Dog Back to Crimson: >btw: as far as offspring not being punk, I put my head through my living >room wall listening to "bad habit" some sort of drunken mosh thing going >on over here.--CG If it was "real" punk, you wouldn't have needed to be drunk!! (just a joke man) --Robert (no sig It's already long enough) p.s. Unless it's really important, if you feel the need to respond to this take it to my mail box. There is no need to clutter up The Bible with it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 20:33:45 +0500 From: Tom Bunt Subject: Is there any... confirmation on the dates/arenas for the next Danzig tour? I hope I can catch them this time. BTW I just saw Pantera this past Friday in North Carolina and Type O Negative is opening up for them. It looks like Type O is getting around. What band is Danzig taking on there next tour, or is it not decided yet? How can I get my hands on some of the Verotik comics? I've looked in several comic book stores and basically they haven't heard of them. I sent away to the Danzig fan club and asked for some info on that stuff, but I haven't recieved anything yet. Is there an address to write to? Any help will be greatly appreciated. I think I read a past bible that stated something about a Samhain Box set...when is that coming out, or am I seeing things? Is it live tracks or a "greatest hits"(he he he) Is Glenn working on any side projects like his previous efforts: Black Aria, Less Than Zero, and Thirteen(Johnny Cash)? Thanks for any response... Tom ------------------------------ Subject: evilive vinyl Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 22:23:16 -0500 (EST) From: Paul D Hahn hi, first to samhainxxx, sp?, the evilive on vinyl doesn't contain anything inside, at least not the one i got. This is a lable in CA called doctor srange records which has a few 'fits bootlegs, on tape, their address i wrote a few bibles back, but here it is again Dr. Strange records PO Box 7000-117 Alta Loma CA 91701. To all those bitching about whats punk and whats not punk. If memory serves me right, it wasn't the musci that made a punk, it was the attitude of the people who listened to it. greeday, offspring, grunge, ect.. the bands may be "punk", but the fan base has changed. i agree with the guy who said that it wasn't punk, but pure rock n roll. paul "truth is the sword of us all"the Lords ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Not much new to add, just comments on #50 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 11:34:00 est Didn't really have any news to report so wanted to just make a few comments & answer some questions asked in #50: Ssisson - hey, punk rock opera sounds cool! Actually I'm surprized nobody's tried it & passed it off as performance art. RE:Wagner - it's funny but that used to bother my parents even more than punk and all when I was a kid because they just found it too incredibly weird that their kid was up there sitting in her room listening to OPERA! I think they thought I'd snapped... The Ring Cycle made them long for rock music. CTernes - glad you enjoyed the interviews! Maybe I'll serialize some longer ones, or print some old Sammie interviews.. CrmsonGhost - YOU LIVE!! Good to see you back! Good comments - those folks that go on about "this isn't REAL punk" annoy the shit out of me.... Wandering (The Unbeliever) - Glenn's real last name is Anzalone. Danzig was a city in Poland - it's still there but now it's called Gdansk (birthplace of Lech Walesa) I have no idea why he chose Danzig as a name aside from back then very few self respecting punk rockers used their real names - who knows, maybe it is his mother's maiden name or something. (There are a bunch of Danzigs in the phone book in North Jersey - out of curiosity I checked) Oh well, it's easier for the crowds to shout along for... (Can't quite picture them chanting AN-ZA-LONE...) SamhainXXX - The Evilive album never came with any sort of insert or photos or anything so you don't have to open it if you don't want to (though I've heard that sealed records have more of a chance to warp) Rocky-Saenz - I have absolutely no idea what you mean by "he was just afraid of admitting that they (The Misfits) were his most successful project". Huh? What sort of definition of success is this? When they were together the Misfits were pretty obscure; most of the world had never heard of them until Metallica recorded a few tunes and kept showing up in their Misfits shirts; even today a lot of clueless folks still claim those Crimson Ghost shirts (which of course they don't call that 'cause they don't know what it is), are Metallica shirts... Even today the sales of the Misfits LPs are completely dwarfed by sales of Danzig's albums (even if you count just the sales before the 1993 version of the Mother video). GOAT (Angela) - I can't find MR&R so can you please send me that guy's address (and the contents of his classified ad if possible?)?? I had no idea I was in demand! Gabriel Palczewski - If the comic mag you mean was WIZARD a few months ago then that wasn't a real casting list - it was just the magazine's SUGGESTIONS of who THEY thought would work. Sheesh, I guess nobody actually reads these things, they just look at the pictures. bloodboy - liked your comments - I agree completely! She - I think it's "Goleta Center" - that's how I've seen it spelled most often. I'll have to check my vids to see what the 2nd song on the '94 summer tour with Metallica was. pbright - OK, believe it or not I'm so anal that I take notes from the Danzig Hotline. Eerie mentioned it on the message of March 23rd, 1994 (yes, I call every morning to see if has changed). What he said was "Check out the article in BLACK LIGHT by Elizabeth Bright on Glenn's career and twisted vision". That was it (afraid he got her name wrong too...) He didn't give an address on there or anything - I saw an ad for it later & MR&R & it clicked right away since I'd been looking for it since EV's mention. Glenn never bolted from LA (he still lives in Hollywood...I'm not giving out the address but it's a suitably spooky looking place) - he's staying put & getting the place fixed from the damage inflicted in last year's earthquake that wrecked it up pretty bad. I think he's thought about moving because the 1st editor of Verotik (Val Jones) was based in Roseville, CA (up near Sacramento) & he was thinking of moving to Lake Tahoe which isn't too far from there. But now she's been replaced with a new staff that are based out of LA (Hart Fisher from Boneyard Press and Steven Wardlaw from Tundra) so I'm pretty sure Verotik's headquarters will be moving there shortly. (But for now) Verotik's addy is: 4010 Foothills Blvd, Suite 317-377, Roseville, CA 95747 phone (916) 774-6310 or 1-800-215-4532 Sounds like you've got cool taste in comics - I love Sandman myself & hugely enjoy Milk and Cheese and Tank Girl. Savage Henry is way cool - I remember YEARS ago Matt Howarth used to do all these odd xeroxed 1 page zines and comics & leave 'em lying around the punk clubs in Philly (where I'm from) - I still have some of 'em I picked up then! Better scram for now, see ya! - EVB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 17:52:27 +0300 (EET) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: Interviews, Punk, G.D Vs Misfits etc... > CrmsnGhost@aol.com wrote : > ... What, do you have to be dead like Sid and Stiv, or maybe > really weird like Glenn, or just plain stupid like Jello. That's a pretty shit thing to say about someone who is responsible for one of the best punk bands ever (D.Ks) and who, no matter what, always stuck to his beliefs, whatever the cost (LITERALLY!). Actually, I can't believe that someone just said that Jello is stupid! I think you need to learn what *respect* means. > As a matter of fact Where exactly did you get that fact?? > the Sex Pistols were created by the record company they were nothing more > than drug addict bums, sid didn't even know how to play. - The Sex Pistols were created by Malcolm Mc Laren (nothing to do with the record company). - John Lydon was not even drinking, let alone doing drugs! - Sid started doing drugs long after he joined the S.P. - The guitar player was totally into music and didnt do drugs either (he was drinking though) - I don't even like the Sex Pistols! These *are* some facts! > From: Rocky_Saenz@baylor.edu > > as far as glen talking about the misfits i don't think it is that he does not > want to or that he is tired of it i think he was just afraid of admitting that > they were his most successful project (until the "mother" video 12-93). > > do you beg to differ??????????????????????????? Not at all! Actually I always wondered why G. Danzig always says that people should've taken notice when the Misfits were still around... because people *did* take notice when the Misfits were still around. I mean that for the type of music, the Misfits were very succesful. Before they broke up they used to play for 1000-2000 people. Most "similar" bands (attitude wise) used to play in front of much less people. Did he want them to play in arenas or something?? To Phil Scarr : I'm totally with you! > "Bouras, Elizabeth" wrote : > > j.w.e.c.vijgen - Thanks for posting the interview by Andreas Veneris! I'd > found it a while back during a VERONICA search under "danzig" - any idea > where it first came from? Yea, probably from a Greek mag. called "Heavy Metal / Metal Hammer" (basically the Greek version of Metal Hammer magazine) because I know he was the editor of that magazine. --- I also want to thank all the people that typed interviews (It's really appreciated!). Finally, I would like to say to people going on about punk, that punk never really went away, its not a trend and it should be kept underground (like this list, its pretty underground, I just wish it could be more punk :( ). Nevermind, Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Nikolopoulos@tnclus.ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### Gre:UK:Fin Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:17:35 -0500 (EST) From: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: The homepage...a question Am I to udnerstand correctly from the Biographies section of the homepage that the Misfits are back together without Glenn? Or what? Some of the passages read as if the band never broke up?! Could someone PLEASE clarify this... --- Geoff We@sel Tune in, turn on, drop dead ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 18:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: 50th Bible About the summer tour the second song they did was I am almost positive was "Twist of Cain". I am VERY VERY sure of it. I know they opend with "Its Coming Down" which started some huge mosh almost in front of me also ironicly when they started playing it the rain came.. heh kinda cool. As for the Misfits in general I think they are an excellent band. The unfortunate part is they lacked funds at least good ones to make good sound recordings and stuff. Their songs will remain classic but unfortunatly so much of it is hard to find. Also I am on that Danzig list for American Recordings and I havn't paid too much attention but AR said BMG is re-releasing some Misfits stuff yet they failed to mention exactly what was being rereleased does anyone know anything on this? ------------------------------ From: Neil McAllister Subject: Some stuff... Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 21:26:53 -0800 (PST) Hey, I've heard mention here a couple of times about the German "Wolfsblood/Earth A.D." LP with the bonus tracks from "Die Die My Darling". (Incidentally, it only has 2 of the 3 tracks from the EP, unlike the CD which has all 3.) Anyways, I have a copy of it. I guess I wouldn't be adverse to making a couple of bucks off it if anyone wants to buy it off me. Make me a realistic offer. BTW, just to grind your noses in it, I found the thing at a record swap and paid $6 for it, just a few years ago. I don't think the guy who had it realized what it was. It's the real deal though -- NOT a bootleg. It has a full color cover (same picture as the US release, but with the covers reversed and colored) and a black label on the record, printed in silver; also, the vinyl itself is printed (not scratched by hand) reading "ST AG 0024" which is the catalog number for the disc from the company, Aggresive Rock Produktionen in Germany. *** On another note, everyone has high hopes for Verotik Comics, but has anything actually hit the stands since VEROTIKA #1? -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@netcom.com) | Santa Cruz, California, USA "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." -- Ben Kenobi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 10:27:26 +0300 (EET) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: I forgot to tell you... The following article is from alt.punk and I thought that people would like to read it... --------------- start of fwd message------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.punk Subject: Re: MISFITS!!! Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 17:34:43 GMT Organization: Faculty of Engineering Science, U.W.O. If anyone is interested in buying some rare Misfits vinyl i have a selection for sale... bullet 7" (yellow vinyl) horror business 7" beware 7" (green vinyl) halloween 7" walk among us 7" (2 parts...1 red vinyl one blue) static age demos 7" cough/cool 7" who killed marylin 7" (glenn danzig solo project) samhain live 7" (i forget the title, 5 songs) earth a.d. 12" die die my darling 12" legacy of brutality 12" evilive 12" misfits 12" november coming fire - samhain 12" initium - samhain 12" heros of danzig CD (misfit bootleg live) e-mail me if you're interested... Ian ********************************************************************** * * sometimes i feel that im hopeless, * * ian pryde * helpless, i'm always drowning in their* * ipryde@charon.engga.uwo.ca * programs, their programs of * * u.w.o. london, ontario * suppression. * * * -kyle bishop * ********************************************************************** --------------------------- end of fwd message ------------------------ Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Nikolopoulos@tnclus.ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### Gre:UK:Fin Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ------------------------------ From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 10:52:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Danzig Lettering Most of you probably have known this for a long time, but I recently found out where the Samhain/Danzig style lettering comes from. I was in a video store and there was this old movie called "The Giant Gila Monster" It was in the exact lettering as Danzig/Samhain logos It looked really old too. Sean M. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 52 Tuesday, January 31st 1995 Today's Topics: HELL YES!! the last one re: comments by Yannis Samhain Verotik..Danzig Danzig's next tour Re: Danzig married?!! dr. strange bootlegs just a little anectdote german misfits stuff 4 sale Lettering, Classical something interesting comments on Misfits Bible, #49 & #50 missing in action More Samhain Lettering Misfits Bible 51 Sisson, comix, etc. To: Crimson Ghost Kryst the Konqueror ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 13:25:22 -0500 (EST) From: Brent Eyestone Subject: HELL YES!! Whoa! I just got done reading #50 and I am VERY happy! Once again, thanks EVB! The news concerning Verotik picking up Faust and then making it all in COLOR (!?!?!) - I can't wait. Although, I had enough trouble looking at some of the images in B&W. It could be worse - it could be SCRATCH AND SNIFF!!! (eeeeewwwwwwww!!) And hey - for those of you who think this has nothing to do with Glenn, it would be in your best interest to keep your mouths shut because Faust/Danzig/Vigil have alot to do with one another, now even more so than ever! And YES!! - I did notice the Danzig inclusion in ACT 9. I remember thinking that it just fit in so well with the story line and John Jaspers, etc. Wow! Say, I know that they were talking about making a FAUST film a few years back (I read it in a interview last year), do you know of any progress here?? Any info will be appreciated. Once again EVB, thanks for making my day! -Brent E. ------------------------------ From: She Subject: the last one Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 13:34:38 EST Words of the weasel: > > Am I to udnerstand correctly from the Biographies section of the homepage that > the Misfits are back together without Glenn? Or what? Some of the passages > read as if the band never broke up?! > > Could someone PLEASE clarify this... Ahh yes, something like that. Keep your eyes open in the near future.... Gabriel Palczewski says: > Also I am on that Danzig list for American Recordings and I > havn't paid too much attention but AR said BMG is re-releasing some > Misfits stuff yet they failed to mention exactly what was > being rereleased does anyone know anything on this? BMG is not releasing any Misfits stuff. In Europe they will be releasing the first few Danzig albums. Misfits stuff can only be put out by Caroline Records or any other label the Misfits sign to in the future. > Subject: Re: MISFITS!!! > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 17:34:43 GMT > Organization: Faculty of Engineering Science, U.W.O. > > If anyone is interested in buying some rare Misfits vinyl i have a selection > for sale... > ********************************************************************** > * * sometimes i feel that im hopeless, * > * ian pryde * helpless, i'm always drowning in their* > * ipryde@charon.engga.uwo.ca * programs, their programs of * > * u.w.o. london, ontario * suppression. * > * * -kyle bishop * > ********************************************************************** Just in case some of you don't know, most of those things were bootlegs. > From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu > Subject: Danzig Lettering > > Most of you probably have known this for a long time, but I recently found > out where the Samhain/Danzig style lettering comes from. I was in a video > store and there was this old movie called "The Giant Gila Monster" It was in > the exact lettering as Danzig/Samhain logos It looked really old too. > Sean M. Now, that's really cool. Did anyone else know that? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 13:44:59 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: re: comments by Yannis Yannis said, "punk never really went away, it's not a trend and it should be kept underground." Excellent point. If people are really into punk they will find it. The music is out there; you just have to look around. Punk is definitely not dead. You can still find all types, from old school to new school and all the offshoots. bloodboy ------------------------------ From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 13:32:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Samhain Here's a question that's been bugging me for a while: How do you pronounce Samhain? I've always said it as "Sah-win" because that's how the dictionary has it and it's how Glenn says it in several songs. (Samhain, November's Fire, Soul on Fire, etc.) But anytime I talk to anyone about the band, they alwats pronounce it "Sam-hane" I'm almost positive that it's "Sah-win" Can anyone tell me? I think it would be odd for Glenn to say: "Gotta wait on the sam hane of my soul!!!" Thanks, Sean M. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 14:19:36 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: Verotik..Danzig Someone said that they are not sure that the Verotik series doesnt exist. It does, Death Dealer is supposedly coming out next week and Ive already got Verotika #1 which is really #0... Its really graphic(cool), and the other strory The Braille Encyclopedia is pretty cool also. And Lady Phantom or Phantom Lady I cant remember is supposed to be coming out soon. Any of you that saw that add in Verotika are surely eager to get that one. At the bottom it says by Glenn/Robo... As for the meaning of Danzig, I most of the responses are quite accurate. I think that Glenn may have chosen it for the one fact that at a time it was the only pure German 'state'. But thats only my opinion. MAybe he just knew it would be controversial. Maybe he got some weird inspiration from the Ed Wood movie 'Glenn or Glenda' Glenn or Glenn Danzig I dunno just screwing around. You gotta admit you vcant rule anything out with him. 'See-through spectres cruise the hallway' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 13:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Siegel Subject: Danzig's next tour Someone was curious about who Danzig would be touring with next. According to the Danzig hotline, they're trying to put another tour together with White Zombie. On the Slayer homepage, there's a pic of Glenn at Slayer's party. There's an audio file of him praising Slayer and he supposedly spent some time drinking some beers with Rob Zombie. ------------------------------ From: pbright@ibm.net Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 19:46:47 Subject: Re: Danzig married?!! Have you heard anything about this? An Indianapolis radio station announced this afternoon that Glenn was a newlywed. This DJ is kind of goofy anyway, so I'm not sure if it's true. Nothing on the hotline about it or press releases from AR. What's up? //---------------------------------------------------------------------------- // This is an example signature. // You can change the signature in the Letter 1 // settings page. See Settings on Letter Menu. ------------------------------ From: ST930419@pip.cc.brandeis.edu Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 20:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: dr. strange bootlegs Someone said that they were going t osend to Dr. Strange records to get some Misfits bootlegs. DON'T! I got a copy of the Misfits last show from Dr. Strange it sucks. It is completely inaudible. I cannot not even tell what songs are beening played except for a couple exceptions. Just me two cents. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:03:36 -0500 (EST) From: GOAT Subject: just a little anectdote Hi all! I just finished reading Bible #50, and I thought the discussions about grunge and punk were really funny. I remember reading one post that wanted to know if flannels and docs would soon be marching down runways. Actually, they already have. The 'grunge' thing was big in Paris and other European countries before it was big here, and so they latched onto it real quick. (I have a couple of friends who lived in Europe so that's how I know this!) Anyway, from what I've heard it's out of style wicked bad over there now, so once the U.S. catches up to them it will be out here! Yeah! I don't know about all of you, but I used to get made fun of BIG TIME in junior high for looking like a freak or whatever. Then, by my junior and senior years, the junior high girls were idolizing me! Everyone who made fun of me and my friends suddenly looked just like us. Of course, that was in Indiana, and things catch on really slowly there. It used to piss me off really bad, but then I just thought it was funny. I can't wait until it goes out of style and people laugh at me again so I can tell them what hypocrites they are. Oh! One other thing, just to demonstrate the lengths that this whole fad goes, one of the fraternities at my school is having a "Grunge Party" tomorrow night. That is so hilarious to me. My roommate is dating one of the brothers there, and he told me the grunge and mosh pits wouldn't even start until late because they don't have enough music to have a whole night of grunging! Basically all they have is Pearl Jam and STP anyway. Another funny thing is that Green Day is playing at URI soon, and all these dumb people are so excited about going. Offspring is playing here in Worcester next month, too. The excitement about them isn't as great, but it's still pretty big. It will be interesting! Sorry about going off on a tangent like that, but those types of discussions always intrigue me. Anyway, the discussions in the last Bible about Glenn's name were very cool. Isn't the name of the city Dontzig (or something like that) in German? I looked it up in a really old encyclopedia a couple of years ago and I think that's what the map said. I really can't remember though. I have also heard that 'danzig' is a surreal type of art. I don't have anything to back that up with, it's just something I heard. It sounded good though, and would be logical considering Glenn's interest in art. Is it true that the next tour will only be of cities they didn't play on the previous tour? I hope they come around here again. Also, any word on opening bands yet? I think White Zombie would be a good choice. I heard they played a couple of shows together a couple years back. A show with both of them would rock! We all know how great Danzig is live, and Zombie is also very intense. I for one would go absolutely crazy if they played together. Just a thought. Well, not a whole lot more to say tonight. Just kinda felt like babbling for a while. Cya next issue! Angela- ------------------------------ From: Burkhard Jaerisch Subject: german misfits Date: Fri, 27 Jan 95 1:25:29 MEZ hi, you americans seem to pretty upset about the german misfits pressings, well, i can assure you they're NOT that rare!!! this guy who made them pressed tons and TONS of 'em, and they were easily available in regular record stores until like 3 or 4 years ago. but even now, they're not too hard to get, so better save your hard-earned money for something real... i have no idea how many of these have been pressed, but i'm SURE there are more than 10-20000 of each. they were EVERYWHERE 10 years ago. cheers flex ------------------------------ From: Burkhard Jaerisch Subject: stuff 4 sale Date: Fri, 27 Jan 95 1:35:06 MEZ i have some misfits related stuff for trade or sale, namely the night of the living dead 7" (original) - i would trade that one for a colored pressing of bullet or the second pressing with the better dead on red sleeve, or maybe something else i don't have yet. also i issued a bonus 7" for my fanzine some years ago, and it has one otherwise unreleased live track by Mourning Noise (dawn of the dead), it's from the same live show as the split ep with parasites. (and yes, it was a legal compilation!) if anyone is interested, i still have like 4 or 5 copies left, and i'd sell them for 4$ plus postage. postage is kind of expensive from germany, so i could send them all to one of you in the u.s., and she/he could pass them on. lemme know. as far as this punk vs danzig discussion goes, i like punk & hardcore, i was into the misfits when they were still a punk band, and i also liked samhain, but danzig has nothing to do with that anymore (musically), so i'm not interested anymore, and i think a lot of people feel the same. on the other hand, people who were into heavy metal didn't like the misfits back then, but they like danzig now. it's just two different worlds, so why bother. cheers flex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 17:42:41 -0400 (EST) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: Lettering, Classical Sean M.- I knew the 'Fits logo came from Famous Monsters of Filmland, but I never knew where that Samhain/Danzig stuff came from before. Cool! I'll have to look for that Gila Monster thing! Re: Robert Flemming's analogy of 70's/contemporary punk to classical/new age- I am an anal retentive loser, but this is a bad analogy. "Classical" music actually does refer to a certain movement in music in the 18th century... I forget whether this was when the orchestra was expanded or if that was the Romantic period.. but for one thing the music is all at the same sound level -- like Baroque but unlike Romantic-- and can be punctuated with cadences rather than going on and on like Baroque... there are words for both of those things but I've forgotten them too. Unflagging rhythm, I think.. Well anyway i don't know what new age is exactly, but anything current which follows classical form I would call "neoclassical"... but I don't think enough time has passed to validate a term such as "neopunk." It is possible, however, that since radio and the mass-availability of recorded music have encouraged the development of so many different styles in this century, this convention no longer holds. If it's punk, it's punk! If it's crap, it's crap! Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 21:49:04 -0500 (EST) From: GOAT Subject: something interesting Hi again! I know I already wrote a bunch of bull shit in here last night, but I was at work tonight and found something a little interesting that I thought I would let you all know about. I was getting some info out of a MR&R and my manager and I were talking. He said he had seen something about Danzig in an article in one of the fanzines we carry, so he showed it to me. It was an interview with Brian Baker, formerly of Minor Threat. The interview was in "No Idea" #4, and here's the portion of interest: Q: Why did you leave Minor Threat? A: Lyle Preslar and I were under the impression that we were such wonderful musicians that, if we were to leave Minor Threat, within two weeks we would be _the_ punk supergroup of the century, whiling away the days with girls peeling us grapes. We were going to form a band with Glenn Danzig and the drummer from Youth Brigade, Mark Stern, and get the guy from Negative Approach on bass. We would be awesome, but basically we sucked. We were called SAMHAIN and we were terrible. Glenn knew we were bad and said, "Fuck this!" and formed his own SAMHAIN. We, at the same time, said, "Fuck this, we're not dying our hair black!" and went and tried to form our own new wave band. It was horrible.... The article went on but didn't have any other interesting stuff in it. Does anyone know if any of this is true, or was he just bullshitting? I had never heard any of this before. One more thing, I picked up another Misfits CD today. It's called "The Misfits-Beyond Evil: Demos and Outtakes." I listened to it a little while ago and it's really good. I walked into work tonight and my manager goes "Hey Ang, we got some new Misfits stuff." They always hold stuff for me when it comes in. Working in a record store does have its advantages! They have a good selection of Danzig stuff, but I can only afford one thing at a time. Well, once again, that's it for now. Hope someone can help clear up the info in that article. Cya all later! Angela ------------------------------ From: Rocky_Saenz@baylor.edu Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 21:22:16 +0000 Subject: comments on Misfits Bible, #49 & #50 hey CrmsnGhost, >From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:18:43 -050When you get down to it what is "Punk Rock" anyway? The way I see it Punk is just good rock 'n' roll, simple to play, full of energy, and having the inate ability to piss off ones elders when played at suitable volume. I don't know about you Crimson Ghost but to me punk means alot more than plain rock 'n' roll. the problem here is when punk turns into ordinary rock 'n' roll because it looses its creativity. punk in short means anarchy. it supports everything that is antisociety. punk means not being afraid to speak your mind or to be yourself. it is about individuality and not going with the flow. to me, this is exactly what rock 'n' roll is not. r'n'r has no creativity, honesty, or individuality. SO HOW CAN YOU SAY PUNK IS "just good rock 'n' roll?" >From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:18:43 -050 As far as turning punk into this "capitalistic thing" >From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:18:43 -050 Robert, Who gives a flying fuck if it's not *real punk*. What exactly makes a band *real punk*. What, do you have to be dead like Sid and Stiv, or maybe really weird like Glenn, or just plain stupid like Jello. c ghost there is no top 10 list to check if a band is real punk. but there is a definite line between punk and the shit nirvana and greenday are pushing. i think people no longer defined nirvana and greenday as punk because they let the the major label record companies corrupt them. it is fine for a band to make money even alot of money who cares; i rather see these bands get it than stupid fucks like madonna. but when the music of the band changes due to not caring because they have so much money nothing else matters it becomes plain coc-rock. look at rancid for example, epic records offered them $1.2 million to sign but what did they do? they sent epic the check back in the mail. why because they are happy the way they are and don't need all that bullshit. call it stupid, call it dumb, call it antisociety (don't need money for happiness), call it punk!!! hey bouras, liz "he was just afraid of admitting that they (The Misfits) were his most successful project". Huh? What sort of definition of success is this? When they were together the Misfits were pretty obscure; most of the world had never heard of them until Metallica recorded a few tunes and kept showing up in their Misfits shirts; even today a lot of clueless folks still claim those Crimson Ghost shirts (which of course they don't call that 'cause they don't know what it is), are Metallica shirts... Even today the sales of the Misfits LPs are completely dwarfed by sales of Danzig's albums (even if you count just the sales before the 1993 version of the Mother video). liz, what i meant by his most successful project is the notoriety the misfits have had in the last 17 years. when people here the name glenn d. they think of misfits or samhain. i am not basing my statement on record sales, who gives a fuck about record sales. tell me how many punks in 1984 had the money to buy every misfits album they liked. and just for clarity with name association i am not referring to the mtv crowd. if no one liked or knew who the misfits where since you claim they are so over shadowed by danzig they why do people always ask glenn about the band????????? i have said my peace... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 11:48:47 -0500 From: She Subject: missing in action hello everyone, i need some help I don't know if these people have unsubscribed or what, but their mail bounces. if anyone knows anything about these people please let me know: fstation0@aol.com hchou@aol.com wolfsblood@aol.com misfitsman@aol.com I'm removing them from the subscription list after this issue. mark ------------------------------ From: SamhainXXX@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 12:32:35 -0500 Subject: More Samhain Lettering In the last bible some saild where the Samhain/Danzig lettering came from. I was in the video store the other day and noticed that on one of the OMEN movies has the same lettering as the Samhain logo from November-Coming-Fire. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 22:17:38 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Misfits Bible 51 To: Andrew Jerome Dempz I like Danzig. I like all the 3 major bands he has been in and they are all good yet I am unsure if I like Misfits or Danzig more. I am more of a metal fan but I really like alot of Misfits tunes so I cannot be sure. I am not a biggie fan of Samhain. I just bought an actual album for myself instead of listning to a tape my friend recorded of a few songs. To: Robert Flemming Yeah alot of older albums go unoticed. I have all of Green Day's albums. The old ones are cool but they lack the quality of DOOKIE in sound which sorta sucks. Offspring was cool but I got sick of hearing "Self Esteem" so I sold my CD for 8 bux (not bad used). "Bouras, Elizabeth" It was not WIZARD he read it in. Also I did this before but I wanna do it again cuz more people are on the list.. what are your favorite Misfits/Danzig/Samhain songs? I don't have a list yet for Samhain but I do for the other bands... Misfits ------- 1. Last Caress 2. London Dungeon 3. Where Eagles Dare 4. Green Hell 5. Hollywood Babylon 6. Horror Business 7. Bullet 8. Astro Zombies 9. Teenagers From Mars 10. She Danzig ------ 1. Twist of Cain 2. Cantspeak 3. Little Whip 4. How The Gods Kill 5. Dirty Black Summer 6. Its Coming Down 7. Mother 8. Until You Call On The Dark 9. Snakes of Christ 10. Going Down To Die ------------------------------ From: pbright@ibm.net Date: Sat, 28 Jan 95 22:26:07 Subject: Sisson, comix, etc. Hey TeeVie -- I live right near Bloomington, and I've been driving the comix people nuts trying to get Verotik stuff. You're right -- they do suck. Crimsy -- you are a level headed guy. You give good balance on this thing. Very much appreciated. EVB -- Thanks for the hotline citation. I passed it along. How bad is your phone bill, what with calling the hotline? Personally I'd rather see Eerie Von someday calling a hotline number every morning to check up on YOUR current activities. -- PJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 00:12:43 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: To: Crimson Ghost Welp I was reading over the numerous back issue Bibles and something CG said I wanted to reply to (this is in Bible #20 I belive) sorry that this is a late reply but I joined this list shortly after this issue. Basicly you said Glenn was the head asshole of the Misfits and none of his bands are basicly worth shit and this and that how Jerry and Doyle rule the universe and stuff.. welp here is my thoats. I think Misfits were an excellent band and all and that they are the best punk band I ever heard. I think Glenn was one of the intrigal parts of the band and if you recall he owned the label the band was on and he wrote the songs and most of the music (maybe all of it). The Misfits sound was because of Glenn's writing style and no one elses. I am not putting down any of the members of the band but lets face it he was the main force. If J&D hated it so much they should of left and not waited to form a band for so long. They could of had their own "Samhain" and possibly get the recognition that Glenn did. You belive Glenn to be some super asshole but you havn't met Glenn you only have the opinion of 2 people who hate his guts. Glenn probaly thinks no better of them and Bobby Steele isn't lovey towards any of them. I think Jerry and Glenn each tried to own the Misfits. Each tried to rule it and they fucked the band members and each other over to do it. I belive Jerry had Bobby dumped on purpose so that he could get Doyle into the band. I think Glenn tried to cheat his band out of their fair share for his success and Jerry had Doyle to help get control of the band and it was one fuck over after another till they broke up. Glenn used his brain and already knew that Misfits wouldn't last longer and formed Samhain with Errie Von and the crew and later Danzig which I belive is the band he has wanted for awhile and almost had it perfect until Chuck left but he is happy now with his new drummer. I am not putting down J&D at all or their new band KTC (I want that EP and have been looking for it) but I think its unfair to totally discredit Glenn for his work with the band or call Misfits a better band then Samhain or Danzig. I don't like Samhain all that much but they are pretty cool and I think Danzig is better then Misfits musicly at least due to John Christ and ex-drummer Chuck being able to to some awsome stuff for the bands sound. Misfits were unique and their lyrics and the music they supplied fit in perfectly but they were no where near as good players as Danzig has now surrounded himself with. I think they all had their faults and it should be forgotten because all of them had their skeletons in the closet and things they did that they would perfer to be kept secret. ------------------------------ From: SamhainXXX@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 19:18:18 -0500 Subject: Kryst the Konqueror Does anyone know how I can get a cassete copy of their whole LP? Also, where could I find the EP CD? -Carey (samhainxxx@aol.com) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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I wouldn't exactly use Rancid as an example to illustrate "punkness." Do you know how much shit they would get for signing to Epic? I mean Epitaph is as major as you can get in the "punk" world and I'm sure Rancid's doing just fine financially. But the fact is, all the shit on Epitaph sounds the same except for old Bad Religion. Besides, how "punk" is putting out a CD (instead of just a record) and then using newspaper block lettering to make it look MORE "punk?" Was that really necessary? I'm not saying Rancid is a sell-out or anything like that. I don't believe in labelling bands as sell-outs. I mean Green Day is probably having a blast getting rich off the people they hate and getting to make fun of them at the same time. But Rancid shouldn't have to prove their "punkness" by making it public knowledge that they sent back a check to a major label. Hell, if I was them I would have taken it. I'm sure they would have been able to retain what's left of their artistic license. Punk is a lot of things. But what it is definitely NOT about is compromise. If you want to make money in punk, that's fine. It's your decision. Bands who work hard and want to succeed have a right to. So they can openly get signed and make money. But bands should NOT have to prove how "punk" they are and show that they aren't sell-outs. Rancid wouldn't have to publicize shit like this unless they're worried people are starting to group them with Green Day and the like. Well, maybe they should wonder why people are doing it. Or maybe they should just say, "Fuck you, we're doing what we want and we don't care what you think." That would be a punk attitude. If you're a band like Rancid, it's real easy to get jerked around by fans and people in the punk scene. Everyone has an opinion of you. But if you're in the band, your opinion is the only one that counts. So what I have to say to Rancid is this: Are you really happy where you are or was this just a publicity stunt to prove your "punkness" when underneath you really want to hit it big? Because it sure the fuck looks like a stunt or else you would have kept it quiet. bloodboy ------------------------------ From: Chad Biafra Subject: Greetings.. Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:17:21 -0600 (CST) Hey all... Today was the first day I've ever seen the Misfits Bible, and I couldn't believe how much information about the Misfits I never knew... Like that whole Bobby Steele thing - I never understood why they called him an asshole, etc. on my boots until I read the bibles... It was cool to finally know the whole story behind the incident - from both sides... Anyway: I'm Chad Biafra (Biafra? Yep, that's my REAL name, no relation to Jello, however...), I've been collecting Misfits stuff since about 1988.. I actually had the chance to meet Glenn (and the rest of the band) when they toured for HTGK. They did a signing at a local (Chicago) records store called Rolling Stone. I was able to take pictures of the band and I also took a picture with me and Glenn... He signed my fold-out insert of the LOB CD and signed another group photo I had.. He seemed like a cool guy, although I heard that eariler he had tore up some guy's LP jacket of the Night of the Living Dead boot, and said, "I don't do boots" or something to that effect.. Well, I just wanted to say what's up to everyone and ask a couple of questions... I have the Irving Plaza NYC boot on cassette (I don't know if it was ever released on CD). I looked at the song list on the WWW site, and they match, except for one thing: On side two, after the last song (I think it's Queen Wasp?), there is about a 10 second pause, and then all of a sudden Last Caress comes on (a studio version).. It sounds incredible (total circa-1950's style sound to it). I was just wondering what the hell this was? Is this a rare version, and why is it all of a sudden on the end of the boot? Just curious.. I also have a Danzig video boot, and was just wondering on it's rareness/nonrareness... It has a cover of the first Danzig album photocopied onto it, and the tape quality isn't bad.. I forgot if the shooter used a tripod or not, but they do a couple of Misfits tunes (Horror Business and Teenagers, I think), and a few SamHain tunes..(haven't watched it in awhile).. It's about 45 mins long.. The really bizarre thing about is that after the concert footage, whoever taped it didn't use a blank tape, they used a tape they recorded televison programs on... The boot probably hails from Florida, since the local news is on the tape! There is also an episode from Lost in Space on it that is after the concert footage... I'm guessing it's probably not very rare, since it looked mass-produced, and the owner of the record store knew it was a boot.. But if it was mass produced, why would they leave the televison footage on? Maybe it was easier to copy tapes that way? Just wondering about this one. I have original shrink-wrapped 12"s of Evilive, Die Die My Darling, Earth A.D./Wolfsblood and LOB. Does anybody know if there's anything cool on the sleeves or if the vinyl is colored? I really don't want to open them up, but I suppose I could get them re-shrink-wrapped... One last question... Does anybody know if any other version of Children in Heat exists besides the one on the Live '79! The Perfect Crime 7"? Welp, later everyone.... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 16:08:55 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Dodsworth" Subject: New Misfit EP? Someone posted in the alt.punk newsgroup that Danzig was going to release an EP of Misfits songs, as played by Danzig. Does anyone know anything about this? It seems very uncharacteristic. Also if Jerry/Doyle/and CHUD reform the Misfits, what are they going to do for a singer? -LD ldodswor@access.digex.net "Trust and you will be Trusted says the Liar to the Fool" - Type O Negative ------------------------------ From: She Subject: your omelet of disease Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 17:50:21 EST > From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu > Here's a question that's been bugging me for a while: > How do you pronounce Samhain? I've always said it as "Sah-win" because That's the real way to say it. Americans say it differently, that's all. If you want to say it right, then say it that way. Angela said: > The article went on but didn't have any other interesting stuff in it. > Does anyone know if any of this is true, or was he just bullshitting? I > had never heard any of this before. Well Glenn got together 2 times with Lyle and Brian of Minor Threat, and he didn't think they had the right musical ideas. Also, they thought they were some kind of superheros and wanted Glenn to sing whatever they wrote so he just kind of forgot about them. Lyle, however, was interested in playing with Glenn and that's why he appears on the first album on a few songs and played lead guitar at the first Samhain show. > From: SamhainXXX@aol.com > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 19:18:18 -0500 > Subject: Kryst the Konqueror > > Does anyone know how I can get a cassete copy of their whole LP? Also, where > could I find the EP CD? The only place you can get a copy of the whole LP is from Jerry himself, and he rarely hands it out. The EP is easy enough to find. Just write to their P.O. Box address. It's on the bottom left hand corner of the poster I sent you.... Mark ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:27:07 -0500 Subject: Lot's 'o' Shit It seems that once again I've stirred up a hornets nest..oh well somebody had to I was really getting sick of reading rehashed fanzines..(nothing personal EVB!!) To all of you that choose to bash bands like greenday & The Offspring. Grow Up! your showing your age. Greenday's sound is so punk it's not even funny. You cannot knock a band for being popular. They have a sound very similar to bands that I hold near to my heart such as the Buzzcock's or the Ramones. The Offspring have a classic L.A. Punk sound. If you don't like them don't listen to them but don't sit there like some idiotic net geek and say that they're not punk. When I started working for Jerry & Doy's Dad, as the Office Manager, I was faced with exactly this kind of thinking. When I told someone to do something I got back "Oh, we don't do it that way, we do it this way" what i'm attempting to say is that everyone should broaden there minds alittle bit. The arguement someone made was that punk had to be Anarchic in nature, This is an okay point for the most part, but not true. I don't think that anyone on this list would dispute the fact that the MISFITS were a Punk band. While the vast majority of there music was not about anarchy (Some of it was) the vast majority of Misfits tunes were about Horror, horror movies, etc.. Using something for it's *shock* value does not anarchy make!!!! But it's still punk In the following I will attempt to respond to everyone. Please follow closely :) in #51 yannis responded to my post in #50 CG> ... What, do you have to be dead like Sid and Stiv, or maybe CG> really weird like Glenn, or just plain stupid like Jello. >That's a pretty shit thing to say about someone who is responsible >for one of the best punk bands ever (D.Ks) and who, no matter what, >always stuck to his beliefs, whatever the cost (LITERALLY!). Actually, >I can't believe that someone just said that Jello is stupid! I think you >need to learn what *respect* means. I was trying to be polite. *my opinion* is that he sucks and *I* personally don't like his politics. But you are correct in that he has stuck to his beli efs (However STUPID they may be) and for that fact I give him credit. I've obviously touched a nerve w/you on this whole Jello comment so accept my apology I didn't mean to insult you personally. >The Sex Pistols were created by Malcolm Mc Laren (nothing to do with >the record company). I was oversimplifying things... Malcolm McLaren did indeed create the Sex P's. But he did so for the exact reason I stated "to make great gobs of cash" on a fad that would sell at the time.. bloodboy said in #52 Subject: re: comments by Yannis >Yannis said, "punk never really went away, it's not a trend and it should >be kept underground." Excellent point. If people are really into punk they >will find it. The music is out there; you just have to look around. Punk >is definitely not dead. You can still find all types, from old school to >new school and all the offshoots. the point is good- but where you guys go wrong is the fact that it should be kept underground..What does this prove? That we can be into music that cannot easily be found. Fuck that I kinda like having the ease of finding something to listen to. I also like to hear bands that i'm into getting airplay- In #52 GOAT (angela) said: >Anyway, the discussions in the last Bible about Glenn's name were very >cool. Isn't the name of the city Dontzig (or something like that) in >German? I looked it up in a really old encyclopedia a couple of years >ago and I think that's what the map said. I'm not about to argue this point since it's very vague. In any case has anyone besides me ever noticed that Glenn's *real* name is Anzalone. This is a surname of Italian ancestry. It wouldn't be a far reach to grasp the fact that this name could have had a d - apostrophe in front of it before it was an glisized in this country. ie: D'Anzalone not really a far stretch to DANZIG from that eh?? stephen alan sisson said in #52 Subject: Lettering, Classical >Re: Robert Flemming's analogy of 70's/contemporary punk to classical/new >age- I am an anal retentive loser, but this is a bad analogy. "Classical" >music actually does refer to a certain movement in music in the 18th >century... I forget whether this was when the orchestra was expanded or >if that was the Romantic period.. but for one thing the music is all at >the same sound level -- like Baroque but unlike Romantic-- and can be >punctuated with cadences rather than going on and on like Baroque... >there are words for both of those things but I've forgotten them too. >Unflagging rhythm, I think.. I'm pretty sure your right on the money with this. >If it's punk, it's punk! If it's crap, it's crap! That was my whole point to begin with Gabriel Palczewski said in #52 Subject: To: Crimson Ghost >Welp I was reading over the numerous back issue Bibles and >something CG said I wanted to reply to (this is in Bible #20 I belive) >sorry that this is a late reply but I joined this list shortly after this >issue. >Basicly you said Glenn was the head asshole of the Misfits and >none of his bands are basicly worth shit and this and that how Jerry and Doyle rule the >universe and stuff.. Gabriel I know these comments were *not* what I said I believe you are reading into my comments too much.and taking them out of context. I am an advocate of J & D but this is alittle crazy. Please forward via e-mail the post that I made I cannot find that issue in my archive. I will respond to your comments as soon as possible. Please keep in mind that due to legal restr ictions placed on me by the band I cannot say everything i would like to.. Rocky_Saenz@baylor.edu said in #52: Subject: comments on Misfits Bible, #49 & #50 hey CrmsnGhost, >From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com CG>When you get down to it what is "Punk Rock" CG>anyway? The way I see it Punk is just good rock 'n' roll, simple to play, full CG>of energy, and having the inate ability to piss off ones elders when played at CG>suitable volume. >I don't know about you Crimson Ghost but to me punk means alot more than plain >rock 'n' roll. the problem here is when punk turns into ordinary rock 'n' roll >because it looses its creativity. punk in short means anarchy. it supports >everything that is antisociety. punk means not being afraid to speak your mind >or to be yourself. it is about individuality and not going with the flow. to >me, this is exactly what rock 'n' roll is not. r'n'r has no creativity, >honesty, or individuality. SO HOW CAN YOU SAY PUNK IS "just good rock 'n' >roll?" OK one more time people..Punk is R'N'R!! there it's been said. What do you know the great almighty Anarchy God hasn't even struck me dead yet.. Don't be an idiot The fact that punk is so good is that it's not creative!! It's the same 1-4-5 progressions that we've been listening to since the fifties. Punk is the most basic, raw form of r'n'r there is!! The velvet underground was creative, Pink floyd is creative, punk IS NOT CREATIVE it's RAW and UNADULTERATED like good sex. Take any 50's tune turn up the distortion and play it upbeat and you have punk. Your losing the point it's NOT what there singing. It's how there singing it. PUNK is the ULTIMATE ANARCHY to the musician! It's total garbage any moron with 2 weeks of guitar lessons can play in a punk band, that's what's so great about it. There are some exeptions to this albeit but majority rules. I really don't want to rehash this again it's getting old. when I was 20 I thought like this also but here I am pushing 30 fast and there really is more important things in my life. Grow up people join the world we're all here to make money. Anybody AND I MEAN ANYBODY who REMAINS TRUE TO THEIR IDEALS WITHOUT MAKING MONEY IS A FOOL. Flame me if you want but that's what life is about.. That's about it for me this week folks -- Please feel free to flame via personal e-mail The Crimson Ghost (no sig- fuck it) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 01:39:23 -0500 (EST) From: GOAT Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #52 Wow! I must be psychic! I posted in the last issue that I would love to see Danzig tour with White Zombie, then in the same issue someone said that the hotline stated that they were trying to arrange that! I almost jumped out of my seat when I read that. I am so excited already I can hardly stand it! They are by far my two most favorite bands and I think I would have an orgasm if I saw them together! Pardon my excitement, but it's just completely unbelieveable. If it does actually happen, you can bet I'll be there. Even if I have to take a bus four hours away to get to the show! Someone please calm me down. I just can't deal. I think I'm going to burst! I know this is getting obnoxious, and I apologize, but it's just too much to handle right now. AAAAAAHHHHHHHH! I think I have to go run up and down the stairs for a few minutes to work out some of this excitement. Cya later! Angela- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 12:37:30 +0300 (EET) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: Questions + comments... First of all, I was really glad to find out that there are many punks in the bible (Bloodboy, Flex, Rocky_Saenz and more...). To Bloodboy : I agree with you about having to look around in order to find stuff. Best music is almost always not the easiest to find. To Flex : I agree about your Danzig comments... To Elizabeth Bouras : If I may ask, how did you get into the Misfits (and when)? I'm just asking that 'cause of your comments about Misfits popularity ("...most of the world had never heard of them...Mettalica recorded a few tynes..."). These comments I cannot accept and they sound like the comments of the metal crowd that discovered the Misfits through Metallica. I'm not saying there's something wrong with that, I just wanna know where your views are coming from. Gabriel Palczewski said : "...Offspring was cool but I got sick of hearing "Self Esteem" so I sold my CD..." You should've tried de-engaging the repeat button on your CD player whenever you listened to "self esteem". I'm quite sure there were a few more songs on the album ;) :) :) --- And finally a question for all of you : What format (7" or 12") did the first Misfits lp came out as? I got 2 different copies, one 7" and one 12" but I'm almost sure they're both bootlegs. They're both on 45 aswell. Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Nikolopoulos@tnclus.ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### Gre:UK:Fin Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Another Danzig tour? Date: Wed, 01 Feb 95 15:20:00 est EV finally updated the message on the hot line and said that the new tour will start March 22nd. He said the dates would be on there within a week so I'll keep check and post 'em when I find out. Wonder who will be opening - last message he said they were trying to hook up with White Zombie but I heard a very unconfirmed rumor from a friend in LA that it will be with Marilyn Manson and a band called Corn (Korn maybe? I've never heard of them) I see from #51 we've all learned our geography. Very good boys and girls! Few comments on #52 - Sean M - Samhain is REALLY pronounced "sow en " - at least in that's how it is in Gaelic. All my pagan friends say that & that's what I call the band. I have an early interview from a New York radio station on tape where the members of Samhain keep correcting the interviewer when he says "Sam Hain" and saying "it's really pronounced "Sow- en" - I guess after a while they just gave up as they later referred to themselves as "Sam Hain" (also Glenn ALWAYS sings "sow en") Ryan_JAS- The Verotik "Phantom Lady" trade paperback came out in early December. If you want this stuff you'll probably have to special order it through your comic book stores when it is solicited several months in advance of publication - if they carry PREVIEWS or ADVANCE comics you can use those as ordering forms. Everything Verotik publishes is solicited through those distributors. (Sadly most comic book stores will not otherwise carry much in the way of indies that are not specifically ordered by customers) Rocky_Saenz - >tell me how many punks in 1984 had the money to buy every Misfits >album they liked Prolly most of 'em considering in 1984 they only had two albums out - Walk Among Us and Earth AD so back then that prolly would have been a total of what, fifteen bucks? The others all were issued posthumously, long after the fact She - maybe all the missing members used up their 10 free aol hours? pbright - no need for EV to call my line to see what I'm up to - if they're not touring I'm home. If they're touring, I'm on the road. Simple! Actually if you call on night rates it's only like 15 cents (if you hang up right away if it's a message you've already heard) Gotta go for now - Bye! Til next time, -EVB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 17:09:08 -0600 (CST) From: Brent Eyestone Subject: Those wacky Germans... Hello yet again - I just checked out the last issue and I just wanted to agree with Flex, the guy from Germany. He is absolutely correct, there were tons of Misfits albums on Agressive Rock Produktions back when I lived over there. That's why I was so surprised when EVB told me that my Wolfsblood/Earth AD and Evilive albums could fetch $30-75. But what it comes down to is simply, "what are *YOU* willing to pay for it?" Forget what some price guide says - if nobody wants it, it's worth nothing. I don't know, I think that $30 for either of these albums is just fine here in the states because once you make the Deutsch Mark/Dollar conversion and then figure in other costs like shipping, effort, etc., that's about right. Collectors just like things that are different, even if it's only the cover and not the songs themselves that have been changed. Even true fans would be tempted to buy one of these albums because it's simply something they don't have here in the states and it looks different. So that would explain why the prices are high...... I also noticed some of you new guys taking on the likes of the Crimson Ghost and the wonderful and talented EVB. HA HA HA.....foolish mortals. These people will tell you things that you would never hear anywhere else, it's in your best interest to not piss them off or argue with them because they KNOW what they are talking about (for the most part). I mean this latest punk controversy - who cares? What's all this shit about "punk is simply about anarchy." Take your friggin' head out of your ass. That crap died out long ago. If we are to assume that the current "punk" bands are all about anarchy, then why the hell aren't they behaving like it or saying anything about it?? HUH? I'll tell you why - the current punk bands have EVOLVED to where the only things carried over from the days of the Sex Pistols/Buzzcocks/Damned/whatever are the chords, the hair (maybe), and basically the pure, raw ENERGY. Sorry man, no anarchy or god save the queen here. When Green Day ripped through D.C. about a year ago, you want to know what Billie Joe and Mike told me about what the band and the music mean? They said it's simply about jumping up and down and making people move. That's all, no fucking politics and no fucking anarchy. When NOFX came to town over Thanksgiving, they said the same thing. As did Jawbox and just about every band except for Fugazi. But they're not about anarchy *or* making people move. They are about raising conscioussness, period. When the band emerged for their first US show in over a year at Ft. Reno park this summer, I got the chance to sit down with Ian Mackaye to discuss many things, punk bullshit included. That's how he describes it - bullshit. He oversimplified it by saying "it's just sounds, that's how I view it all." So what I'm saying is this - THE CRIMSON GHOST IS RIGHT: it's just rock and roll. The contemporary punks aren't out to stir anarchy and make political statements in hopes of inciting people into radical beliefs. They want to jump around and make a couple bucks (for the most part). Fugazi just wants to get the thoughts in their heads out for people to hear and listen - just for the sake of being heard. They don't expect anything from anybody, they just want to be heard. Ian would probably puke at the worn-out notion of "anarchy" these days. So please - lay off these old misconceptions about what punk "means" or what anything means. If you know what punk "means," then answer me this you friggin' genius - what does pop "mean" - what does rap "mean" - what does "jazz" mean - what does metal "mean" - etc. etc. It's simple - you can't define music!! By doing so - YOU PIGEONHOLE IT. Yeah, maybe some bands are all about anarchy - but not all punk bands. If punk was only about anarchy, then where the hell would you stick bands like SNFU, D.I., TSOL (early days)?????? These bands were "punk" long before Offspring and Green Day, but just like them, they never centered around anarchy. So are they still punk?? What about a band like 311? Oh never mind, they haven't been on MTV yet - sorry I didn't want to confuse you. DAMMIT! Enough of this BULLSHIT!! Just get off your need to define music and don't fuck with Crimsy or EVB and we'll be allright. Damn..... If anybody is interested about Faust and Rebel studios, you can send me a message and I'll forward to you what EVB had to say about these things..... Until Later - Brent E. ------------------------------ Subject: punk in the 90's Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 18:31:15 -0500 (EST) From: Paul D Hahn hi, since everyone here is going ape-shit about what is and what isn't real punk, i thought this might ammuse u. in the latest issue of newsweek, i know it sucks but i need it for a class, it has an article about courtney love. it says she is the heir to punk rockness, as in female. it also hails nirvana with changing the downward trend of music in the 90's. also to gab, the shit greenday put out pre-dookie, was way better than the shit on dookie. it was meaner, and they put on a whole lot better show. whoever said that the whole grunge thing is going out of style i hope your right, becauuse all these posers are making me sick. i was one of those kids ridiculed throughout middle and the beginning of high school too. i figured ya'll would like the part about courtney. to the guy who wanted to start a punk opera, it would be a good idea, and would probabely work, you might have to go to the goth subculture though, since most there are loaded. paul "i walk down the street with my dick in my hand, i'm a mean muthafucka, yes i am"-the exceptions ------------------------------ From: pbright@ibm.net Date: Wed, 01 Feb 95 21:48:44 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #52 Christina in the UK -- Many thanks for all the photocopied stuff you sent me. I doubt that I have anything you don't have, but if you e-mail me your address, I'd be happy to drop some photocopies in the mail. Academic material - hee hee hee -- KIM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: DANZIG VIDEO BOOT! From: ALFREDO CAPPELLO Date: Thu, 02 Feb 95 13:09:00 +0100 Hi everyone, I've seen many guys into bootleging... Well I'm an italian Vidoe trader, I'm interested in Danzig and Misfits stuff... I haven't much to trade only two shows from the Danzig European Tour 1992: Berlin,D 29 august 92 70' quality A/B Milan,Italy 13 october92 80' quality A (master) if someone is interested, e-mail me. bye Alf ------ alfredo.cappello@galactica.it * Q-Blue 1.0 * ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 54 Tuesday, February 7th 1995 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #53 Punk Wee! Marilyn Manson With Danzig? We Are 138 I was a punk before you were a punk..... Time for an alt.music.danzig FAQ! Last week Danzig the city, etc. Sightings... some comments... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #53 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:24:16 EST As always, I am responding to last issue's stuff: Chad Biafra > > I have the Irving Plaza NYC boot on cassette (I don't know if it was ever > released on CD). I looked at the song list on the WWW site, and they match, > except for one thing: On side two, after the last song (I think it's Queen > Wasp?), there is about a 10 second pause, and then all of a sudden Last > Caress comes on (a studio version).. It sounds incredible (total > circa-1950's style sound to it). I was just wondering what the hell this > was? Is this a rare version, and why is it all of a sudden on the end of the > boot? Just curious.. Never heard of this. In fact, there was only one versoin of Last Caress recorded, so maybe it just sounds good for some unknown reason. I guess it's possible that some joker came along and jazzed it up a little, but there is only one studio version of this song. > I have original shrink-wrapped 12"s of Evilive, Die Die My Darling, Earth > A.D./Wolfsblood and LOB. Does anybody know if there's anything cool on the > sleeves or if the vinyl is colored? I really don't want to open them up, but > I suppose I could get them re-shrink-wrapped... Yeah right. Misfits LP's have nothing inside them other than the record and a blank white sleeve. Unless of course you have Walk Among Us or some 7" singles. > One last question... Does anybody know if any other version of Children in > Heat exists besides the one on the Live '79! The Perfect Crime 7"? Not yet. That is the only known live version currently circulating. L. Dodsworth " > Someone posted in the alt.punk newsgroup that Danzig was going to release > an EP of Misfits songs, as played by Danzig. Does anyone know anything > about this? It seems very uncharacteristic. Sounds bogus. There are plenty of Danzig bootlegs featuring live Misfits and Samhain songs, but I don't think Glennzig would ever legally release one. > Also if Jerry/Doyle/and CHUD reform the Misfits, what are they going to > do for a singer? What are they going to do? They've been auditioning singers for a long time. There have been several posts on this very mailing list, trying to inspire some of you singers out there to send them a tape of your singing voice... Go Crimson Ghost and Brent Eyestone! As usual, nothing but some good laughs and common sense. Angela: > Wow! I must be psychic! I posted in the last issue that I would love to > see Danzig tour with White Zombie, then in the same issue someone said Danzig and White Zombie toured a few years ago. You missed it... Yannis: > What format (7" or 12") did the first Misfits lp came out as? > I got 2 different copies, one 7" and one 12" but I'm almost sure they're > both bootlegs. They're both on 45 aswell. > Beware is a 12" EP only. 7" copies are bogus bullshit bootlegs. Is there anyone out there who hasn't seen my Misfits/Samhain/Danzig discography that is interested? Email me if you want it. I't massive.... mark ------------------------------ From: Richard_Arredondo@baylor.edu Date: Thu, 02 Feb 1995 11:25:54 +0000 Picture this (#1)... Glenn Danzig goes to a bar (Al's Bar?) after a really bitchin' show with Sick of it All. He gets pretty tanked up but mind's his own business. While he's finishing off yet another martini, Henry Rollins shows up for A lucky x beer(see black flag tv party video). Henry sees Glenn and goes to talk to him. As the night comes to a close, Glenn tries to drive home.... Rollins, being a true friend, suggests that Glenn is too drunk to__, much less drive. They begin to quarrel and trade blows. My question is, who wins? Does Glenn get to drive home drunk or does Rollins overpower him and save the day? I'm curious. My roommate says Rollins wins because he's taller?!! I say it's close but Danzig's pagan saint swoops down and dresses him in robes of victory. What do you say? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:36:15 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Punk Wee! Ack.. ok here is something I have to say about punk. You can no longer define it. When it began it was leather, spikes, earings and loud fast guitars with screaming but it evolved I guesse and the sounds changed. Sure you can hear some of the old traits but I hate labeling music like that because now there are so many different bands that call themselves that. Offspring and Pennywise do not sound like Green Day or Rancid while Bad Religion and Hole do not sound like each other. Its all about I guesse angst maybe.. like what hard rock started with.. angst.. but punk uses/used shock factor alot. Right now I consider a punk band anything that is not heavy enough to be hard rock or metal but not slow enough to be labeled normal "alternative" or mainstream and shit. Misfits were considered punk but look their lyrics nowhere refelcted those of bands like Sex Pistols or Black Flag. Just drop the punk issue about "who is" "who isn't" personaly i am getting more into punk bands but I don't wanna call myself someone who is into it cuz its like getting married and I am not ready to comitt :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:34:21 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Siegel Subject: Marilyn Manson With Danzig? I sure hope someone wasn't teasing us with the notion that Marilyn Manson would be opening for Danzig. I had just been thinking to myself that Manson would be perfect to open for Danzig. Korn is also a very cool band out here in L.A. land. They've been getting a lot of air play on KNAC which is soon to be gone. I saw Marilyn Manson about 3 weeks ago plus twice with NIN. Them and Danzig and Slayer are the best bands live that I've seen. I could do without seeing the Danzig/White Zombie thin again. But then again, it could be Danig/White Zombie/Marilyn Manson. I did see Sean from White Zombie at the M.M. show and apparently she was back stage after the show getting pretty friendly with the guys from M.M. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Feb 1995 23:09:38 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Green Day SUCKS!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 09:40:01 -0500 From: She Subject: We Are 138 Congratulations to Sudama Rice, our 138th subscriber........... mark ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: I was a punk before you were a punk..... Date: Fri, 03 Feb 95 11:27:00 est In Bible #53 Yannis asked me >If I may ask, how did you get into the Misfits (and when)? >I'm just asking that 'cause of your comments about Misfits popularity >("most of the world had never heard of them until Metallica recorded >a few tunes"). These comments I cannot accept and they sound >like the comments of the metal crowd that discovered the Misfits >through Metallica. I'm not saying there's something wrong with >that, I just wanna know where your views are coming from. Well, it's a good question and I'd like to take a chance to answer it as you obviously seem to assume that I'm some metalhead just wandering into a punk band long after the fact, but before I tell you about how I got into the Misfits I'd like to fill you in as to a little of my background BEFORE I discovered the Misfits which lead me to make that comment that "most of the world had never heard of them..." I'm probably the oldest person on this mailing list - at 33 going on 34 in a few months. But I'm probably one of the youngest folks around that _really_ got into the 1977 New York punk scene AS IT WAS HAPPENING. When I first started listing seriously to music it was about 1973 and I was heavily into Alice Cooper, David Bowie, Iggy & the Stooges, the New York Dolls etc. I followed the New York Punk scene (I was living in Philadelphia at the time) & got into bands like the Ramones, Patti Smith, Televison etc as they started up. In 1977 I was 16 and held a part time job after school at the local record store "Plastic Fantastic" which was the only place in the area that carried a large selection of imports and indies. I did a lot of their ordering for them & consequently bought just about every punk/new wave release as it came in by bands like the Sex Pistols, X Ray Spex, the Damned etc etc. Even then I was sneaking into the local punk club (the Hot Club) with my fake ID (being as way back then the drinking age was only 18 it wasn't too hard and they didn't give a shit) & saw many of the bands playing there and at other venues (including The Clash, The Runaways, The Dead Boys, Blondie etc - sadly I never saw the Pistols since they never played the east coast although a few of my friends later saw Sid Vicious at Max's Kansas City and told me his show as a pathetic joke) By 1980-1982 I worked off and on as a D.J. for most of the punk & new wave clubs in Philly, including Omnis, The East Side Club, Ripleys, the Love Club, The Black Banana and Rainbows (which later became the Kennel club). Often clubs that played disco the rest of the week would hire me one night a week to attract a younger, hipper crowd. In fact I supported most of my way through art school by DJ'ing. Nights I wasn't working I'd go to shows and I saw many of the bands that played, including The Dead Kennedys, Bauhaus, Circle Jerks, and Black Flag (before Henry sang for them even!) Hell, I even saw U2 play in a tiny club called the Bijou Cafe in front of about 30 people right after their first album "Boy" came out. I'd heard of those bands because I read every music magazine I could get my hands on and I scoured the record shops. But I NEVER can recall hearing of the Misfits. I don't remember seeing their records. Even in retrospect I STILL cannot find much that was written about them at the time - the biggest fanzines that wrote them up were Slash and Flipside; neither of which I remember seeing in Philadelphia during that time. Both were west coast based 'zines and maybe they just never got much in the way of distribution on the east coast. I never saw any articles on them in the east coast based magazines like New York Rocker and Punk. (Those articles I re-typed were from zines that I got many years later & most of them were little xeroxed and hand stapled jobs!) In fact the Misfits even PLAYED at one of the clubs I worked for - The Love Club at the corner of South Street & Broad. But it was a night I wasn't working & I didn't go as I had no idea who they were or even that they were playing. I only found out about it many years later when somebody gave me a photocopy of a flyer for that show & you can bet that when I saw it I sat down and cried for what I hadn't known about at the time. To make matters worse, the band that opened for them, "The Little Gentlemen" included my college roomie's cousin. I'm sure that the Misfits were more popular in other cities (like New York, Detroit etc) where they had a biggest following and there was probably better word of mouth advertising, but in Philly nobody ever mentioned them that I heard. (And I REALLY don't think I was an out of touch geek at the time!) Between late 1982 and 1986 I stopped going out - the reasons are personal but a lot of it had to do with the fact that a lot of the people I knew had gotten into drugs and two of my closest friends committed suicide. One of them was Lee Paris who had been at the forefront of the Philly punk scene since it started (he did the local college radio station WXPN's punk show "Yesterday's Now Music Today" and booked nearly all the local shows) and he was the one who had gotten me into DJ'ing. I just couldn't deal with the scene anymore & I retreated. Unfortunately this also means I missed out hearing about Samhain when they were together. (And they played at another club I worked at now that Rainbows had become "The Kennel Club" - I've got a flyer for that show too!) In 1987 I moved down to the 'burbs outside of DC & started going out again. I discovered a wonderful record store in Silver Spring called "Vinyl Ink" and it was in there that I first heard the Misfits. One day George (the owner) was playing one of their 7"s for somebody considering buying it and it sounded great. And I knew that the singles were pricey and I didn't want to hear it if I couldn't buy it (literally!) so I left the store, lest I get sucked into collecting another pricey band. (At the time I was a HUGE Sisters of Mercy fan and paying out the wazoo for all their early rare stuff - whenever I get into anything I get totally obsessive and I have to have absolutely everything) In retrospect I can ID that song - it was "London Dungeon" from "Three Hits from Hell". The next year "Walk Among Us" was reissued and since I'd heard from several people (including George) that it was a real classic I picked up the reissue. And truthfully, the first time I played it I didn't like it - the music was too fast for me and I guess I'd hoped for something more like the Cramps (one of my all time fav bands). Plus it didn't sound anywhere as good as that bit I'd heard in Vinyl Ink. So I stuck it back on the shelf. Then of course the first Danzig album came out. I thought about getting it but didn't get around to it. Then one of my best friends called me up and told me "there's this album you have to hear. I know you hate heavy metal but you have to promise me that if I send you a tape you'll listen to it". Knowing that Gregg and I had similar taste I promised him I'd give it a listen, even though I shuddered at the thought of listening to a metal band. The tape turned out to be the first Danzig album. Gregg cued it so that the first song I ever heard was "Soul on Fire" and I was completely hooked. I never had heard an album that affected me that deeply and I was intrigued by the obvious intelligence and Glenn's incredible voice. I immediately went out and bought everything else I could find - I discovered Samhain and purchased Initium and November Coming Fire and loved those (even today I still prefer Samhain to the Misfits) as well as Legacy of Brutality and the 20 Track compilation album. I loved "Legacy" especially, it was much closer to what I had expected the Misfits would sound like. Earth AD I liked less - again, too fast, even more so than Walk Among Us (which did grow on me over time and many listenings although I'm still not real keen on Earth AD) Then I found out the scary thing - that most of their best songs only appeared on the rare and pricey out of print singles. So I bought them all and loved them, and like I'd been afraid, I became the obsessive completest collector. Speaking of collecting I'd like to bring up another fact that lead me to making that "the rest of the world had never heard of them" comment. The Misfits 7" singles were pressed in small quantities and did not receive much in the way of distribution - this is why they are so expensive and rare today. Contrast that to a band like the Dead Kennedys who got a LOT more publicity and distribution at the time, so a LOT more people bought their records. Today a copy of "Holiday in Cambodia" or "Kill the Poor" will run you what, 8 to 10 bucks? Compare that to an original copy of "Bullet" or "Horror Business" that will set you back about $150! There is a reason they are so rare - not many people bought them when they came out! If they had they wouldn't be so rare. Oh, and by the way I'd like to add in my comments on the first time I ever heard Metallica. I went to see them in 1989 when they were touring with the Cult - truthfully I only went to see the Cult and figured that since I was there I might as well stick around to see Metallica. And when I heard them my response was "gee, every song sounds like something from Earth AD if you made it much longer & stuck in guitar solos". So much for Liz's first exposure to Metallica! I'm sorry if I rambled on for quite a while, I just wanted to clarify my views and where they came from, lest somebody think I'm some bandwagon jumper when in fact I was prolly hanging around punk clubs when a lot of you were playing in the sandbox with your Masters of the Universe toys. Nyah.... To answer your other question - the first Misfits album that came out was "Walk Among Us" and it was released as a 12" LP. There is a later bootleg that is 2 x 45"s. Also just wanted to comment on a few other posts: Chad Biafra - welcome to the bible - glad to have you aboard!! I'll try and answer a few of your questions. First off, no cassette or video bootleg is rare - anybody who can dub two machines together and xerox the covers can make as many as they want! So if you hav e a tape that matches what you've seen listed except it's got another track it just means that whoever recorded it stuck another song on. The Danzig video boot is probably the Sheffield show from Sheffield England in October 1988 when they were opening for Metallica on their British tour. It's the only early Danzig video boot that I know of (all the rest I know of are from later tours) & it's about 40 some minutes long. I dunno about the stuff at the end - sounds like the bootlegger was just sloppy.. As for your shrink wrapped albums - the pressings of LOB, Evilive and Die Die that were on colored vinyl have stickers on the jackets that say "colored vinyl". The only pressings of Earth AD that are on colored vinyl are the REALLY early ones. You can tell if it's an early pressing by the color of the sleeve - the really early Earth Ad's have a more reddish purple background while the later ones are a really dark purple (more blue purple than red purple). None of these ever came with anything printed on the inner sleeves. Glad you got a chance to meet Glenn - he's generally very cool & glad to sign stuff for fans. The rare exception is of course when somebody brings him a bootleg. I can't blame him for being pissed being as these are illegally made products that are ripping him off. It's kinda insulting to have somebody ask you to autograph something that is basically stolen merchandise L. Dodsworth - There's NO truth to the rumor that Danzig are going to release an EP of Misfits songs as played by Danzig. Besides, what's the point? Prolly some fan's wishful thinking. Jerry Doyle and Chud are still auditioning singers, last I heard (one of my friends auditioned) She - I have a Samhain era audio interview on tape where Glenn talks about Lyle - he said the main reason Lyle quit Samhain was because it was so hard for him to hook up for rehearsals being as he still lived in DC & Samhain was based in North Jersey. Crimson Ghost- Sorry if I bored you with old rehased fanzines - I just thought there were enough folks on the Bible who had probably never seen those interviews and would be interested. I was trying to get a little more "on topic" since some folks were complaining there was too much focus on the bible on Danzig and not enough on the Misfits! GOAT - I've seen Danzig with White Zombie a bunch of times and it was a FANTASTIC lineup. The funniest show was the last they did together on the '92 tour (in Detroit) - at the end of White Zombie's set Rob introduced his "good friend Scary Von" and Eerie came on dressed like Rob wearing a mop on his head & dancing around with them - it was hysterical! We can only hope they hook up together again!! Brent E - Hey, thanks for sticking up for me!! And I'm SOO sick of this punk/not punk debate!! Sorry if I've rambled on WAY too long.... bye for now! -EVB ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Time for an alt.music.danzig FAQ! Date: Fri, 03 Feb 95 11:37:00 est I'm really sick and tired of the same questions being asked every week or so in alt.music.danzig so I'm now working on writing up an FAQ for this newsgroup. If anybody would like to contribute any questions they'd like to see included, please e-mail me! I hope to post the first version in the next few days. Thanks, EVB ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:38:29 -0500 Subject: Last week Last time Eerie Von Bouras Said in response to She: >She - maybe all the missing members used up their 10 free aol >hours? Liz, even you?? I am personally getting *sick* of being the butt of so many net jokes. Trust me the majority of competent people using AOL know that our service sucks, but what can we do about it?? It's dirt cheap - not all of us can have an .edu or .gov address ya know! Brent: Thanks for plug man. After your rocky start on this list, you've turned into a top ten contributor, and if you stick your neck out on the block in front of these barbarians you're OK in my book. last week She said: alright never mind I don't have the quote handy, he said something to the effect of writing to Mo to get the Album or the EP of KTC. Forget it people as far as the EP gos all copies are spoken for. there is a stash of 500 cassette copies that someone bought. I will post that address if he's willing to sell some. The complete album has not been released yet so don't ask for it unless you got something REALLY worthwhile to trade him for it. btw - Jerry only has been known as Mo since he was young that is his real nickname in the future I will refer to him as such because it is very difficult for me to remember to call him Jerry while posting. +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: pbright@ibm.net Date: Fri, 03 Feb 95 21:36:12 Subject: Danzig the city, etc. Okay, I never thought I would actually use any of this information, but here we go: Danzig (currently Gdansk in Poland) was a German Free State, which meant it wasn't run by a prince or a duke, up until WWI, when all German aristocracy was pitched. The only evil thing I can think of about Danzig is that it was once part of Prussia (the eastern part of the German states, later became East Germany and Poland) was VERY militaristic and Spartan. Other than that it was (and is) a big shipyard & port. There wasn't a concentration camp there or anything. Glenn reminds me a lot of my in-laws, who are all first- and second-generation American-born Germans. EVB -- If Glenn didn't move after the 'quake, I know vaguely the neighborhood where he lives. You're right not to give the address out. Sure as hell, some weird obsessed dweeb would be dumb enough to knock on his door at 4AM just to say "Hey dude, I think you're really, really cool." Have you ever been to his house? Just curious. I personally have NO desire to go to LA for any reason at all... If Eerie lives in NJ, who picks up the mail at the PO box these days? TeeVie -- are you one of those people I have to crawl over every time I walk down Kirkwood?! 8-} Just kidding. PJ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Chad Biafra Subject: Sightings... Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:39:37 -0600 (CST) Hey all... Here's proof that the Misfits aren't dead! That Crimson Ghost skull face has become pretty popular over the years, and here's some places I've seen it: Remember that series 'Small Wonder' with that robot girl? Well, in one episode her and her brother get thrown in jail for something, and there's this woman in their cell wearing a bandana and a tie-dye Crimson Ghost skull face shirt! I was actually lucky enough to get that episode on VHS, so hopefully one day I can scan it.. Does anybody remember that movie about those college/academy students that get held hostage or something? I think it was called 'Toy Soldiers'... Anyway, in one of the guy's bedroom in the dorms, he has a big tapestry of the Crimson Ghost face.. It's hanging over his bed or something... If you've checked out the new GWAR movie 'Skulhed Face', you'll see a poster of four CG skulls in the background during the first couple minutes of the movie.. In the new movie 'Higher Learning', the one soon-to-be-skinhead guy has a poster of the Danzig/White Zombie concert (I know it was Danzig and someone) hanging on his wall... I'm sure there has to have been other movies/television programs I've seen the skull on, I just can't remember any.. Maybe some other people can add to the list... -CB ------------------------------ From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:56:44 +0300 (EET) Subject: some comments... I think that the punk debate is getting a bit out of hand because this is the Misfits Bible and not a punk mailing list but I would like to give my last input to all that, just to clear things up a bit... First of all, people here should take into consideration that whenever somebody says something, the rest don't know where this person is coming from... I'm not one of the punk idealists (never was) *but* I know they exist, they are for real! Yea, maybe age has something to do with it but, shit, I respect them 'cause even for a short period of time they *do* have an idealistic view about anarchy and punk as their whole world!...So, CG don't patronise them, let them "grow up" their own way. And of course, no need to apologize to me; I respect your views. I was merely commenting on these views...Oh and do stir shit up! I enjoy it too ;) On to Brent Eyestone's letter : I read it a few times just to work out if it was meant to be lighthearted or not. Ok, it starts off as being lighthearted : "I also noticed some of you guys taking on the likes of C.G and the wonderful and talented EVB. Ha Ha Ha..." After that, it became a mess! And, definitely not funny! Ok, first of all, I never doubted anybody's knowledge but what I *hate* is those hierarchies that are being set by (usually weak and uncertain) people. Then, Brent keep in mind that punk is *all* about politics for some people. There is an apolitical side, I'm sure (R'n'R, fun ...) but the other side is definitely there too! I too, know many apolitical punk bands (maybe more than you) like the Ramones, the Cramps, the Misfits (he he), White Flag, Descendents, the Damned, and many more but I also know many "serious" punk bands too: I mean just take most DC (Minor Threat, Teen Idles, SOA, Rec C, Gov. Issue, ...) or NY HC (G.Biscuits, SOIA, Madball,...) bands or bands like Black Flag, DOA, DK's, the Clash, etc... These are never-ending discussions. I can't really be bothered but as C.G said any more comments could be taken to e-mail... thats it I guess... Yannis p.s : There were many more comments I would like to make about the last couple of issues but .... no more time left. --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### ### ### ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 55 Thursday, February 9th 1995 Today's Topics: Danzig FAQ + justa few comments on #54 early 7"s Re: Misfits Bible, #54 Re: Misfits Bible, #54 Glenn vs. Rollins Singers, RE #53 Lots o Stuff we are 138? CDs 4 sale Re: Misfits Bible, #54 Flogging dead horses That's not nice, and help! re:punks DANZIGvsrollins Evilive, ftp site Barfight More places I've seen the Crimson Ghost.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Danzig FAQ + justa few comments on #54 Date: Tue, 07 Feb 95 10:23:00 est Hello again! For anybody who is interested I've posted the 1st version of the alt.music.danzig FAQ to alt.music.danzig - if anybody else wants a copy but can't get into USENET please e-mail me and I can send it to you. There are two parts - Part I answers frequently asked questions and Part II is a discography of Danzig & related bands (Misfits/Samhain etc). Please note: this only covers legitimate releases; I'm not going to even attempt to cover the bootlegs out there. I'm not trying to duplicate Mark's efforts by ANY means and if anything I'd prefer to direct people to his web page if they've got access to it (which not everybody does) for the "definitive" info. And of course I've put in a plug for the Misfits Bible so I hope some more folks will find out about this list there - hey, I wouldn't have known about it if the Crimson Ghost hadn't posted there about it last summer! And being as it's the Danzig newsgroup the focus there is on Danzig, but I'm going to try and write up a brief history of the Misfits., Samhain etc as background material. (In other words I'm already at work on the next update but I wanted to post SOMETHING to help stop the same questions being asked over & over!) If anybody has anything they'd like included or suggestions PLEASE e-mail me! Thanks! Sorry if I rambled on way too long last time - I know I suffer from really bad verbal diarrhea. I guess I just got really steamed at the suggestion that my comments sounded like those of "the metal crowd" and I felt obligated to describe where I'm coming from. Thanks for bearing with me... Just picked up Henry Rollin's new book "GET IN THE VAN" that chronicles his years with Black Flag and wanted to point out to anybody interested that there are a couple of really cool photos (as well as mentions in the text) of the Misfits in there - one concert shot, one backstage photo of the Misfits, Henry Rollins and tattooist Rick Spellman (from when The Misfits and Black Flag played the Santa Monica Civic Center) and a fanzine cover with Henry and Samhain era Glenn. (And if ANYBODY has that issue of "HARD TIMES" zine PLEASE contact me as I'd love to get a copy of it!) Few comments on #53: Daniel Siegel - I haven't heard anything more about the possibility of Danzig touring with Marilyn Manson but when I hear ANYTHING about Danzig's tour I'll post it here & to alt.music.danzig. EV still hasn't updated the answering machine with the tour dates but I expect 'em soonish, as he said the tour should star March 22nd. I'm hoping MM isn't just a rumor - I heard it from somebody with pretty good connections to American (otherwise I wouldn't even have mentioned it, I wouldn't do something like that just to tease anybody). I'm a huge MM fan myself - can't wait to see them next week at the 9:30m club on Valentine's day! Crimson Ghost - sorry, didn't mean to offend you. I guess I'd just been reading too much about the turnover at AOL - with AOL, Prodigy etc offering free hours for the first month apparently a lot of folks shop around & only use it for a month & then move on to get some more free hours somewhere else. Actually as I'm in the midst of getting a PC for home it's one of the options I'm considering as I shop around for affordable home net access. (I can't continue to risk doing this much at work anymore, plus I've become a net junkie!) That's it for now, see ya in a few days! -EVB ------------------------------ From: bj flex Subject: early 7"s Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:41:32 MEZ in bible #54 elizabeth bouras says the misfits weren't famous back then because their early 7"s came out in very limited quantities. first of all, i was there in 81, too, and i DID know the misfits, even though i live in the southwest of germany (which was a total fuckin desert back then as far as u.s. punk goes). they already were considered a classic band back then, and it seems real odd that you didn't hear about them (then again, i didn't hear of black flag before 1983, so we're even... :) ) about the "limited quantities", the rarest misfits 7" (besides cough cool which is out of question here) is night of the living dead, and there are 2000 copies of that one. most other 7"s were released in much bigger runs, especially the 3 hits from hell 7" (close to 8000 copies, can't recall the exact numbers). also, there are like 15000-20000 copies of the beware 12", and a lot more of the original walk among us lp. these are numbers other punk bands could only dream of. i think the first minor threat 7" had about 4000 copies of all pressings combined, and the early touch & go 7"s (necros - iq 32, process of elimination, negative approach...) had around 2000 copies each, and they were all over the place. considering this, i think the price level for the misfits 7"s is ridiculous. cheers flex ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #54 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 10:51:19 EST > From: Richard_Arredondo@baylor.edu > > Picture this (#1)... > it All. He gets pretty tanked up but mind's his own business. While he's > finishing off yet another martini, Henry Rollins shows up for A lucky x beer > (see black flag tv party video). Henry sees Glenn and goes to talk. As the Hey! What the hell is this? Obviously, this is all theoretical, but... what's the part about Black Flag's TV Party video? I assume you're just talking about Rollins. Glenn's not in that is he? mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:53:01 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Plater Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #54 Is the unauthorized version of Walk Among Us (from Ruby/Warner Bros.) rare or not? I head that Glenn had it pulled shortly after it was release, but I managed to pick one up and wondered if it was rare. I have most of the 'fits stuff and a lot of it is bootleg stuff like the 7' Beware and shit like that. I don't imagine that's too rare as a lot of people have it. Oh well, just wanted to see if anyone knows... Chuck Plater Student Consultant, Wayne State University ---------------------------------- "She lies and thinks she's in |Chuck_A._Plater@mts.cc.wayne.edu| love with him, can't find a |platerca@applelink.apple.com | better man" PJ, Betterman |Cplater@scil.pass.wayne.edu | |cplater@pass.wayne.edu | ---------------------------------- CS/MU -d+ H++ s+:+ g- p? au a- w++ v* C++++ US++ P? L 3 E--- N+++ K- W--- M++ V po-- T+ t+++ !5 j- R G? tv+ b++ D+ B-- e+ u+ h!* f r n---- y+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:55:34 -0500 (EST) From: Damage Subject: Glenn vs. Rollins Re : Richard_Arredondo@baylor.edu >blows. My question is, who wins? Does Glenn get to drive home drunk or >does Rollins overpower him and save the day? I'm curious. My roommate >says Rollins wins because he's taller?!! I say it's close but Danzig's >pagan saint swoops down and dresses him in robes of victory. What do you >say? Richard - I say no contest.. What will poor 'ol Henry do, hit Glenn with his NECK?? I DID hear something about Rollins winning some "tough man" competition, but I would still put my support behind Glenn.. For many reasons.. first, I'm sure he's got his fair share of strength.. But his attitude alone gives him a lot of power.. Rollins seems like he has a "don't care" attitude ("I've heard it before!" - BF).. I think Glenn has more killer instinct.. Wolf's Blood.. Then he knows quite a bit about a few martial arts, too.. No contest in my book, although I still think Rollins is a tough guy.. -------------------------------------------------------------------- " They should have known it from birth.... Pain had come to this world " -Glenn Danzig ---------------------- damage@interactive.net ---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 16:02:22 -0500 (EST) From: Damage Subject: Singers, RE #53 She : Regarding the Misfits and your comment in #53 about auditioning singers : I only wish I was just a few years older.. I've been basement singing Misfits stuff for maybe 2 years, and always dreamed of maybe doing some covers with others interested in the Misfits just for fun on our spare time.. It would be my wet dream to sing for the Misfits..Shitty thing is, I'm 18... I guess Glenn wasn't too old when he began, but hell, we're talking the Misfits here, NOW, and what the hell is an 18 year old kid gonna do? I'd send a tape for the hell of it though... just as a token of appreciation to the existing Misfits... -------------------------------------------------------------------- " They should have known it from birth.... Pain had come to this world " -Glenn Danzig ---------------------- damage@interactive.net ---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 16:15:47 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Lots o Stuff Ok first of all I managed to find after looking in 4 places in Grand Rapids, a location that actually has THE UNDEAD 7" singles. They were 4 bux but 2 were broke and the only one that was not was THE INVISIBLE MAN so I got that and I guesse since I am not into vinyl I have never seen clear vinyl and it was so cool. I also found in the used bin a copy of LEGACY OF BRUTALITY. Good album but sorta disapointed me how it didn't get good until the end. By far "She", "Where Eagles Dare" and "Halloween" are the best tracks on the album. Concerning where I heard of Misfits from.. welp I shamefully say.. Metallica I guesse. It was the day before I was off to see the good old Metallica concert with Danzig (1994) and I put on one of my LIVE SHIT videos so I could see maybe how they do things there and boom "Last Caress" was on it. I knew it was not a Metallica original so I looked in the book and it said writer/composer Glenn Danzig and I freaked so I looked at all my Danzig albums and at the time 1 Samhain album and it wasn't there so then I looked in my All Music Guide and under Samhain and say wee! Misfits so I went and got the Misfits AMG and it confirmed they were the ones who did it and after making a fool out of myself trying to find what album the song was on and buying the 20 song CD on accident cuz I swore it was there I was hooked on Misfits and the closest I have come to ever hearing the original was the cruddy demo on BEYOND EVIL bootleg. NEXT! I belive WE should do a THE UNDEAD, MISFITS, SAMHAIN, & RELATED BANDS discography for this list. oh yeah and DANZIG too.. like answer all those fun questions and maybe answer ignorant peoples stupid assumptions like the ones at my school who belive the Misfits are still around as a Danzig side project or that they coverd Metallica songs. Yes my school is POSER HIGH.. Uhm thats about it for me now.. TTYL! ------------------------------ From: "Sternaimolo, Daniel J." Subject: we are 138? Date: Tue, 07 Feb 95 17:08:00 PST what does 138 mean? i've been listening to the Misfits since 1985, and my friends and I never figured out what it meant.............. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 05:47:52 -0600 From: Carl Sylvester Subject: CDs 4 sale I am mostly a lurker to this list. I wish I could contribute, but my knowledge only goes as far as the info on this list... I recently purchased some pricey vinyls, so I need some cash... I'm selling the following 2 CDs, each I purchased for $25 (one of them was more, but I won't say how much I paid), and I'm looking to get around that for each disc. Please email me with any questions or offers. As always, I'm always looking to trade for any Misfits concerts/rarities that I do not have. Thanks for reading... 'Beware and the Rest' CD - "Beware" 12" EP - We Are 138, Bullet, Hollywood Babylon, Attitude, Horror Business, Teenagers From Mars, Last Caress - "Cough/Cool" 7" single - Cough/Cool, She - "3 Hits From Hell" 7" single - Teenagers From Mars / Children in Heat, Rat Fink - "Who Killed Marylin" 7" single [Danzig solo] - Who Killed Marylin, Spook City USA - "Halloween" 7" single - Halloween, Halloween II - 'Return of the Fly' outtake - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'Beyond Evil' CD (various sources...some demos/outtakes/rehearsals etc...) Children in Heat, Rat Fink, Halloween II, Nike a Go Go, We Are 138, Teenagers From Mars, Come Back, Angelfuck, Spook City USA, Demonomania, Queen Wasp (instrumental), Theme for a Jackal, Who Killed Marylin, Where Eagles Dare, Return of the Fly, Devil's Whorehouse, Devilock, Green Hell, Last Caress, Hybrid Moments, Attitude, Hollywood Babylon ^~^~Carl Sylvester^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^anthrax@interaccess.com~^~^~^ "This guy's making a tape recording, everybody be careful, don't make too much noise. No, keep it out, I like that idea. He's OK, let him tape the show... Yeah, we want to remember this, right? He can tape it..." - Eddie Vedder @ Stockholm 6/25/92 - -`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-` collecting rare audios of Metallica, MiSFiTS, Pearl Jam? email! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 18:51:49 -0500 (EST) From: GOAT Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #54 Hey fiends! I liked the post about the appearances of Misfits paraphernalia in movies and shows. I can think of a couple of others right off hand. One is in the movie "Point Break". It's a Beware poster hanging on the wall of the character Anthony Kiedis (from RHCP) plays. I noticed it briefly during the scene where their house gets raided. Another is in the TV show "Saved By The Bell". ( I know it's cheesy, but oh well!) It's in the episode when Jesse's step-brother moves in with her. He has an Evilive poster hanging on his wall. It's a different one than the one I have. Mine only has three coffins on it, but the one on his wall has four. Just thought I'd point those out. One other thing, maybe Elizabeth or Mark could answer this one. Have you ever seen a copy of Danzig I Demos? I picked one up from a guy who came in to work (along with an autographed Lucifuge poster). It's on tape and the inlay is typed. It's obviously not legit, but I'd never seen it before. It has Twist of Cain, an alternate version of Am I Demon, When Death Had No Name, Soul On Fire, Misery I, Misery II, Descent, and it seems like a couple of others. It's very poor quality, but it's kinda neat all the same. Is this something rare or is it pretty easy to get a hold of, possibly on CD? Thought you might know. BTW, with all this talk on Marilyn Manson, I'm going to see them this Saturday at Club Babyhead in Providence. It should be a great show. I had seen them open for NIN, but I had always thought they'd be better when it was their show. I'm really looking forward to it. I think they'd be a pretty good opener for Danzig, though I would definitely like Zombie better. I knew already that they had previously toured together, and believe me I was pretty upset. That was before I started going to concerts regularly, and I missed it. Maybe I'll get lucky though. If not, maybe Zombie will go on their own tour. That would suffice. Well, that's it for now I guess. Cya later! Angela- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 21:03:08 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Flogging dead horses Hi - The title says it all. I was kind of miffed at the fact that in the last Bible, EVB had to give her life story just because some "punker than thous" had to spark the punk debate and question her knowledge and experience. She should not have to do this because as I said before, she has proven that she is one of the foremost and informed people on the list, up there with Mark and Crimsy. All you have to do is look at the back issues and you'd know this. I guarantee that if you are a member of the list and actually read it, you will hear about concerts, new releases, future plans, etc. concerning everybody ever associated with the Misfits here *FIRST* from either EVB, the Ghost, Mark, and a couple others every now and then. Don't bite the hand that feeds you or you won't find out these things until everyone else in the free world does. Yes, challenge their opinions, but don't challenge them as people. I hope nobody ever questions my "qualifications" to point where I have to pound out a novel like EVB's. Just in case, here's the Cliff Notes version. I started skateboarding and listening to (oh boy) "punk" in the fourth grade (I'm a college freshman now). The first bands I listened to were the Misfits, Sex Pistols, SNFU, MDC, Minor Threat, and Social Distortion. I lived in Germany at the time and snagged as many albums as possible by these bands. My first show was SNFU in the sixth grade with the older skaters. After seventh grade, I moved to Stafford, VA - forty minutes away from D.C. I grew up from grades 8-12 in the DsCene and of course my musical taste and collection broadened. Big fuckin' whoop. I went to tons of shows at the 9:30 club and lesser known venues. I played in bands called Growl, Tumble Dry, Thik Lid, and +Snuggle+. With +Snuggle+, I opened for Slant 6, Shudder to Think, 311, and most of the bands from the Dischord family. I met lots of the people at their 9:30 shows and at my own shows that have shaped the whole punkalternativegrungerock thing, my favorites being Page Hamilton of Helmet, Ian and Guy from Fugazi, William Corgan from you know who, and Don Fleming from just about everywhere. This is going nowhere.... the point is that we all are qualified to say whatever we want here without anyone wondering about those "qualifications." If a person doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, it will come out *eventually*. For instance, I was sifting through some of that old punk bullshit and came across some "punker than thou" who said something like, "Johnny Rotten was not into drugs and neither were the other Pistols" (meaning Steve Jones and Paul Cook, I presume). Okay, tough guy, how's this: * On January 12, 1977, JOHNNY ROTTEN was arrested for possession of speed. * In March of that same year, JOHNNY ROTTEN was arrested and fined forty Pounds for possession of "amphetamine sulphate" by the Marlborough Street Magistrates. Don't believe it? LOOK IT UP. It's funny how some people can act like they're so authoritative on "punk" and not really know shit. BTW, I'm *NOT* claiming to be an authority (in case somebody was warming up their flame-thrower). I read your stuff, Yannis, and of course some people only look at punk politically. No shit. But that doesn't define it. Sorry. Can we (meaning every fiend and their keyboard out there) finally move on to something else now? Please?? Allright, my time is up. I leave you with a quote from Guy P. of Fugazi. I'd like to dedicate this one to Yannis (no hard feelings). * "They want us to supply some kind of message, but if I wanted to express a message in that way I would have been a politician. I'm not. I'm a MUSICIAN. It's in the songs. It's there for people to use or not use." * Thinking about when we used to talk about the Misfits - Brent E. ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 21:14:38 -0500 Subject: That's not nice, and help! First of all, leave us AOL people alone! We can't help it that we're on this and not on whatever it is you people are on (can you tell I don't know shit about computers?). Now, on NOTLD, the lyrics on the Webb site says "somnambulance". The word being made up, now there is a word: "somnambulist" which means sleepwalker. Could there be a type-o in the lyric sheet for Walk Among Us? AND, finally, to all the people who do not have access to WWW, I have one word: PRODIGY! They offer access to the Webb. It's rather simple, and all you have to do is save everything to disks and cancel your Prodigy subscription. I just wish I had a driver to play the videos for Brand New God, and Until You Call On the Dark! Anyone know what you need for an IBM to get them? Thanks. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:19:18 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: re:punks Sorry if we punks are exasperating everyone with our stupid punk v. not-punk arguments, but that's what punks do. We argue about stupid shit like this. I make an effort not to condemn any band just because of what they sound like. But certain actions and attitudes of bands really leave a bit to be desired (re: my comments on Rancid). I don't want to label any bands, either. I either like a band or not and it really doesn't have anything to do with so-called "punk" definitions. I agree that is a waste of everyone's time. I'm not real into Danzig and have a limited interest in Samhain (limited to their evil, gloomy image, not the music) and so if everyone is talking about Glenn, etc. I'm going to talk about what I'm interested in. I mean, it is the "Misfits Bible," right? And the Misfits were a punk band, right? I realize their lyrics weren't typical anti-establishment but their attitudes sure were - Fuck everyone who's going to mess with us. That's the impression I got anyway. And to those aging punk rockers out there, please give us younger ones a little slack. Don't group us all in the same category. I don't want to be associated with Green Day bashers anymore than you do. bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 00:43:32 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: DANZIGvsrollins Why does everyone ask who would win in a fight between Glenn or henry? First off they are friends right, well kind off...You know when henry is whining his pc bullshit. If it was to happen today, I would take Glenn hands down in a heartbeat. Think about it. Does rollins know any martial arts? Does he have the same state of mind? I think Glenn would fight to the death, whereas I think of henry as a thug-like street fighting type. Also I saw rollins on the tonight show( :> ) He looks so fucking old. The mtv posterboy is clearly going gray. I dunno, I think Glenn would win anyday past or present. BTW, I would not want to be the one who beat Glenn in a fight, cause you'd be facing real Trouble than. I know I wouldnt want to be the one that beat me in a fight. Oh well, he henry want to fight? ***The views expressed above are not necessarily the views of sucky content christian evils*** --'See-through Spectre's cruise the hallway'SC USA ------------------------------ From: ElSlayer@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 22:03:32 -0500 Subject: Evilive, ftp site hello all... this is my first time posting in the bible, so let me introduce myself. Im a 14 year old little kid living in southern california (near long beach) whos been listening to the misfits for like 3 or so years now. i have all the regular albums that are easy to find (including earth a.d. and evilive, which i was suprised to find at the local blockbuster music). i just have a few questions to some of you more knowledgable fiends, so here it goes: does anyone know anything about the evilive album concerning the date, place, lineup of the band at the time, etc? Also, I went to the ftp site (i am also one of those guys without www access yet) and i didnt see anything there. that may be a mistake on my part, but has anyone else noticed that? laterz... slayer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 12:44:57 -0400 (EST) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: Barfight Okay, Danzig and Rollins both get into a brawl, eh? Well as long as we're getting loopy, my ending to the story is that GG Allin rises from the grave, storms in, knocks them both out cold and takes a reeeeal nasty dump all over 'em. THen he... oh well never mind, this isn't alt.sex... Teevie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 14:28:27 -0600 (CST) From: Belle Wood Subject: More places I've seen the Crimson Ghost.... In reply to CG's post about seeing the Ghost, in the movie "Less Than Zero", in the scene where Andrew McCarthy comes in to find Jamie Gurtz sleeping with Robert Downey Jr., Jamie Gurtz is wearing the same shirt you described in the Small Wonders episode. This is of course the movie for which Glenn Danzig composed "You and Me (Less than Zero)". I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 56 Tuesday, February 14th 1995 Today's Topics: Sightings cont.. re: damage comments re: We are 138? We are 138 There I go... stuff A little side note.... Punk silliness and a few other things... When did misfits get famous... RE: Misfits Bible, #55 Re: Misfits Bible, #54 Re: Misfits Bible, #54 FYI: HELP!! ol' hank and glenn and whatever comments on #53 & #55 call it what you will Misfits A few things... Samhain question. Submission to Bible:7" I purchased Obtaining Misfits stuff. Doy fan club, Jerry's b-day, etc some more comments (how original)... records new albums ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: Sightings cont.. Just some other places where Danzig/Misfits/Samhain stuff has shown up. Someone said that in the new Gwar movie 'skulhead face' there is a picture of the Crimson Ghost, but in fact in two of Gwars previous music videos there are misfits posters which pop up here and there. I dont know the names of the songs, but they are on Beavis and Butthead episodes. In Judas Priest 'painkiller' video on of the punks in the car has a Danzig skull shirt on, which is very noticable. Also, if anyone has ever seen the show 'Saved by the Bell' in on of the teenage girls bedrooms there is a big Misfits poster hanging on here wall. Its the one that is the evilive cover. Thats about the only reason to watch the show. Thats all I can think of for now. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:21:53 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: re: damage comments Playing Misfits songs live is the biggest adrenalin rush I've ever had while playing live music. My band covers "Mommy.." and it's one of my favorite songs to play, especially if people are really into it. Of course, I'd rather be watching the Misfits play it, but I guess it's the next best thing. Misfits songs are really, really easy to play. I learned almost all of them when I got the tab from the homepage. I suggest you get a few average musicians together who can play fast and start a Misfits cover band. Of course, the lyrics are a little harder to tackle. It took me a while to just learn "Mommy...". But it's definitely possible and it's a lot of fun. Cheers, bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:28:09 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: re: We are 138? The song was inspired by a futuristic negative-utopia type movie called THX-1138. THX-1138 is the name of the main character in the movie. It's a really good movie along the lines of "1984", but better. I suggest renting it and if you can't find it and are really interested, e-mail me and I'll make a copy for you if you send me a tape. bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:34:17 -0500 From: She Subject: We are 138 Well, as is said in the message above, We Are 138 comes from the movie THX-1138. This was George Lucas's first movie. It's not a horror movie, it's more like science fiction. Read this post from Misfits Bible, #7: Date: Tue, 10 May 94 18:45:34 EDT According to Mo the Great A.K.A. Jerry Only "We are 138" referrers to having a number instead of a name. Believe it or not it has nothing to do with B rated horror movies, penis sizes, or totals of ages. So stop- looking so far into these tunes people, after all it's only rock 'n' Roll..-------JIM ------------------------------ From: Chad Biafra Subject: There I go... Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:12:34 -0600 (CST) Hey all.... some responses: From: GOAT > noticed it briefly during the scene where their house gets raided. > Another is in the TV show "Saved By The Bell". ( I know it's cheesy, but > oh well!) It's in the episode when Jesse's step-brother moves in with > her. He has an Evilive poster hanging on his wall. It's a different one > than the one I have. Mine only has three coffins on it, but the one on > his wall has four. Just thought I'd point those out. Seriously? Hah... that's funny... Well, I guess even teeny-bopper shows have some taste! From: CTernes@aol.com > about computers?). Now, on NOTLD, the lyrics on the Webb site says > "somnambulance". The word being made up, now there is a word: "somnambulist > which means sleepwalker. Could there be a type-o in the lyric sheet for Wal > Among Us? AND, finally, to all the people who do not have access to WWW, I I checked the dictionary, and it didn't list "somnambulance", however it did list other forms of the word... Maybe the word IS made up, but it's definitely the correct word in the song... I checked the sleeve of my Walk Among Us LP, and it's "Stumble in Somnambulance", which makes a little sense. I guess you wouldn't go around stumbling into sleepWALKERs (somnambulist), but you could stumble around in the state of sleepwalking, or in other words... somnambulance... And speaking of WAU... Somebody asked in a bible awhile back why Danzig lyrics were written abbreviating "with" as "w/"... If you look on the sleeve of WAU LP, you'll see that they're written the same way, abbreviating "with" with "w/".. Guess it was never a matter of space, just the way Glenn writes? Oh yeah, another very small tid bit: It's interesting to know that the monster on the cover of WAU came from the movie "Angry Red Planet", but did anyone ever take a close look at the lyrics for Hate Breeders? Line two says: "You feel the things to make a world turn angry red" even more horror movie influence in the lyrics.. > From: Belle Wood > In reply to CG's post about seeing the Ghost, in the movie "Less Than > Zero", in the scene where Andrew McCarthy comes in to find Jamie Gurtz > sleeping with Robert Downey Jr., Jamie Gurtz is wearing the same shirt you > described in the Small Wonders episode. This is of course the movie for Umm, that's CB, not CG! ;) Later.. ------------------------------ From: She Subject: stuff Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:45:44 EST Chuck Plater > > Is the unauthorized version of Walk Among Us (from Ruby/Warner Bros.) > rare or not? I head that Glenn had it pulled shortly after it was > release, but I managed to pick one up and wondered if it was rare. I No, this is not rare at all. In fact it is still in print and highly available. Glenn attempted to sue Warner right after they reissued the album, but I've never heard of any sort of victory. It is certainly not an unauthorized version though. Warner owns Slash which owns the tapes to the album. Some time in the near future Jerry plans on using some legal levers to get those tapes back. Angela- > One other thing, maybe Elizabeth or Mark could answer this one. Have you > ever seen a copy of Danzig I Demos? I picked one up from a guy who came > in to work (along with an autographed Lucifuge poster). It's on tape and > the inlay is typed. It's obviously not legit, but I'd never seen it > before. It has Twist of Cain, an alternate version of Am I Demon, When > Death Had No Name, Soul On Fire, Misery I, Misery II, Descent, and it There are some versions of the Danzig demos that contain a still unreleased song, supposedly called "Night Of Hate". Some also have several different versions of Trouble and When Death Had No Name with keyboards and stuff. EVB can help out more on this one.... The slayer: Side 1 of the LP was recorded 12/17/81 at The Ritz in New York Side 2 is from Max's On Broadway 11/20/81 in San FRancisco, CA The FTP site is empty because the flies mysteriously corrupted and then disappeared. I'm working on getting everything into the ftp.uwp.edu site. It's taking a while and they're not responding, although the lyrics and discographies are in the incoming directories. This all reminds me. In order to eliminate repeated questions, everyone should take a look at the discographies on the world wide web site. If you can't do it, please email me and I can send you a copy of the discographies. They're massive, but worth looking at, at least I think so... And about somnambulance. No, it might not be a real word, but it's used as the noun form meaning "the state of sleepwalking". Glenn made up a lot of words - "murderlation" in Hate breeders, "murdergram" in All Hell, he turned John F. Kennedy into Jonathon... whatever works for the song... mark. ---------------------------------- Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 14:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: A little side note.... Just thoguht that everyone'd like to know that last Sunday, Feb. 5, my brother Jim Wessel, who is on this list via WARRIOR138@aol.com, completed a half-mara- thon on the Antarctic continent. Just thought you all would like to know (and no, I have no idea whether or not he hung with GWAR on Antarctica ;) I'd also like to note that next Sunday, the 12th, will have been his BDay, so if anyone wants to send him belated BDay greetings....(he'll be 17). That's it for now... --- Geoff We@sel Tune in, turn on, drop dead ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 14:34:53 -0500 (EST) From: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Punk silliness and a few other things... OK, enough with the punk debate anh? I'm still a punk, but goddam I get real sick and tired of hearing about what's punk and what's not. There's already a mailing list (the punk-list) for this shit, as well as TWO USENET newsgroups, alt.punk and alt.music.hardcore. Please, not here eh? At least take it to private EMail? I hear enough of it on the plist as is... OK, rant off. Saw another bootleg. LUCIFER LIVE. As usual, there was one greivous misspelling/titling (my fave to date is "MOther of Mercy" renamed to "Our Time In Hell" on the DEVIL SONGS boot), that being "Last CAreless" (duh...) Haven't scored it yet, so I don't know how it is, but it seems to be from the 1st or 2nd Danzig tour.....and I'm still working on my boot discog. of sorts if anyone still wants to see it. Um, a few other things: The Ruby WALK AMONG US is the most common 'Fits album I see in chain stores, so no I don't THINK they've pulled it. ALso, after thinking about it, if Jerry and Doyle continue on with the 'Fits without Glenn and 12 years after the break-up, fuck 'em. To me and a LOT of people, Glenn WAS the MIsfits, and I'm just sick and tired of money-motivated punk band reunions (like WHO CARES about CHelsea or Sham 69 anymore ANYWAYS?!), and would like to think that the 'Fits were above it, but I guess not. So fuck it. Thank you, and good night. --- Geoff We@sel Tune in, turn on, drop dead ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:15:34 -0400 (EST) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: When did misfits get famous... I remember seeing the punk rock documentary DOA which is mostly about the Sex Pistols... but in one part they flash a bunch of 7"s that were out at the time, and one of them is the Misfits Horror Business 7". I dunno what this proves. Teevie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 19:33:20 -0500 (EST) From: wombat Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #55 just a short reply to the question regarding what the song "we are 138" is about. if it's the number 138 that's confusing you, think of it this way: 138 is two times 69; now listen to the rest of the song lyrics again. it may make more sense now... andy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 22:22:56 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #54 Okay, there was some talk of Misfits/Danzig paraphenila on television. I (and I am ashamed to see this) have seen an episode of 'Saved by the Bell' where Jessie's step-brother goes to live with her and he has a Misfits poster on the wall. It's the poster that's got 'Misfits' in green and has got the four coffins with Glenn's/Jerry's/Doyle's/and the Crimson Ghost's faces in them. No, I am not an avid watcher of 'Saved by the Bell'. -child in heat- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:44:13 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #54 To: Daniel Siegel YES!! Someone likes Marilyn Manson!!! Marilyn Manson is one of the only bands these days to actually stand up and not give a shit about what's going on in the music industry. I now have five of their shows racked up under my belt. If you're interested in some of their boots or some NIN boots, let me know, I've got quite and extensive collection including Marilyn Manson's demo tape which should be arriving in my mailbox any day now. -child in heat- ------------------------------ From: PumroyKJ98%CS28%USAFA@cadetmail3.usafa.af.mil Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:34:20 MST Subject: FYI: HELP!! hi everybody, As I've talked about before, I'm at a place where I cannot leave, therefore cannot go out and try to find Misfits stuff I want. I'm really not a collector, but I want to hear every misfits song available. I missed out on that guy selling "Beware and the Rest". I'd just like to request that if anybody has access to a copy of this on CD, or can give me an address that I can order it from, i'd be eternally greatful. Also, I'd make it worth your while if somebody could find a copy to sell me. hell, if somebody could even just dub a copy on tape i'd be incredibly happy. So please, if you have a big heart and care about other Misfits fans who want to hear it all, e-mail me with some help. Also, not to put anybody else down, but I think this whole "Rollins- Danzig fight" thing is stupid. It reminds me of when you're a little kid and you argue about who's Dad could kick who's dad's ass. I just wanna put my vote in for no more articles about it. But, it's a free country so if it's really that important to you, so be it. pum ------------------------------ From: "Robinson, James Che" Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:13:14 GMT-5 Subject: ol' hank and glenn and whatever ok first off i don't normaly like to comment but .... first off to whoever said hank was showing his age: you are correct . but what about uncle glenn? the man better be hualing his ass down to hair club for men fairly soon not to meantion that his gut is getting a little out of hand now i could careless about who would win a fight between rollins and glenn. what i don't understand is why people have to use the subject to prove how far they have their head up glenns ass. come on people he is just a four foot, fuzzy(except on the head) guy nothing that great. as far as the punk thing goes fuck whoever started it. if you're so goddamn punk you should be out spraypainting shit or something as stupid. punk is far past gone . give it up che ------------------------------ From: Fernando_Lopez@baylor.edu Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 20:21:13 +0000 Subject: comments on #53 & #55 to: BRENT SUBJECT: are you cg and evbs' mother first off, this is my first time writting and i must say "are you smoking crack"?? if people want to question others let them. who are to say who is right and who is wrong. why are you so worried about the reputations of cg and evb??? are you fucking evb and getting blowjobs from cg??? why do you persist on standing up for them?? they are young adults and if they are offended they can say so. secondly, who asked you for your life story. just because i have been in the punk scene longer than you does not mean that i am right about anything. so don't think just because you have liked punk since you grew your first pubes on your dick that it means your a diety. the same applies for cg and evb. i am gald that they know so much, but hey tough guy, that only goes so far... no hard feelings fruity-ass! ps. jello is god nando ------------------------------ From: Richard_Arredondo@baylor.edu Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 21:17:31 +0000 To She: The Black Flag Tv party video is a Target Video I got at Sound Exchange in H-town for 15 bucks. Lo Siento, pero no Danzig. To Damage: I think Rollins IS a tough guy and would give hime some credit for staying power(stamina). I damn near died at a Rollins show. I still say it's close To Ryan: Well, I've obviously had this conversation with others and it seemed amusing. I thought the Bible was getting to load with the "I'm punk, you're not" debate that seemed silly to me, so I thought I'd write something silly too. Anyway, what the hell do your last two sentences mean? "I know I wouldnt want to be the one that beat me in a fight. Oh well, he henry want to fight?" To Stephen: Then he WHAT? Don't leave me hanging? You're right, you're right GG kicks ass. Of course, you ruined a future match up but what the hell. Picture this (dull intro. I know).... A 20 yr. old guy goes to a Misfits/Necros/Circle Jerks show. He sees other unrulies outside the club fighting about whether or not the Jerks are punk or not. As he enters the club he sees a drop-dead gorgeous girl with a tight misfits shirt on and a tight black mini-skirt. He panics. He feels inadequate because he's a L.A. local there to see the Jerks and cant think of anything to say about the Misfits. The show's about to start and he doesn't know what to do? He considers feeling her up during the show, but really wants to meet her? Barring GG Allin tactics, what should he do? ------------------------------ From: Rocky_Saenz@baylor.edu Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 21:19:49 +0000 Subject: call it what you will i can not agree with: punk is plain rock n roll (according to Crimson Ghost), then why is it in its own catagory??!!! although, i do agree with only one statement said by the wonderful all knowing Brent "punk can not be defined." "punk turns into ordinary rock 'n' roll because it looses its creativity. punk in short means anarchy. it supports everything that is antisociety. punk means not being afraid to speak your mind or to be yourself. it is about individuality (my quote from #52)" i was not trying to say that punk is just anarchy; punk is what ever the individual finds it to be. maybe to some people punk is anarchy. to some people (corporate record companies) , punk is money. to some it is about sex, drugs, and having a good old-time. to some it means trying to get accross a certain messages. my point is that it is all these things and much more. a punk band does not have to sing about politics, anarchy, getting high, fucking, killing, eating, drinking, or revolution. the bands and the people in the scene do what they want because its plain punk, stupid punk, dumb punk, fucked punk = just punk!!! enough with all that who gives a shit anyway. question: why is it that everyone who listened to the misfits then danzig, likes misfits more than danzig?? and most people who listened to danzig and them to misfits love them both but usually like misfits more?? all for now culos.. rocky ------------------------------ From: Mike Westlake Subject: Misfits Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 09:37:15 -0500 (EST) I'm still quite new to this internet thing, so you must excuse my ignorance, but since I don't know how to post what I find to be my favorite misfits tracks...for your viewing pleasure, here ya go: Bullet London Dungeon Astro Zombies Angelfuck Last Caress (because only Glenn can do it properly) Teenagers from Mars / Children in Heat Die, Die My Darling Skulls Attitude (What the fuck was Axl Rose thinking?!) She (w/ electric sync-piano) An added extra: American Nightmare (Elvis on acid) Thanks, Mike Westlake Also, have you ever seen Earth A.D.,Wolf's Blood,Die, Die My Darling ep's on compact disc. Bootleg or not. I'm still searching. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 06:43:02 -0500 (EST) From: Unholy Living Dead Subject: A few things... First off, I saw Marilyn Manson on Friday. They're on tour currently, and I don't know if that effects the chances of them hooking up with Danzig, but my personal opinion is that it's not very likely. I'd love to be wrong this time though. Second, on the punk vs. non-punk, punk crowd vs. metal crowd thread, ugh. I was either 12 or 13 when Danzig's first album came out, so yeah; I missed all the earlier shit as it was happening. And yeah, I was into metal when it came out. Correction. I listened to King Diamond and nothing else. Ever. Heh. So my roots go King Diamond, to Danzig, to Samhain, to Misfits. My point? Does it matter where you came from, so long as you got here? Third, on Rollins vs. Danzig. If Rollins and Danzig got in a fight, in fifty years, would their diapers leak? Yeah, my money'd be on Glenn if they got into a fight right now. But I'm biased. ------------------------------ From: Mike Westlake Subject: Samhain question. Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 12:55:28 -0500 (EST) Thanks again Mark for adding me to the list. I still haven't had a chance to go through all of the back bibles, but I've been thoroughly impressed by what I've read. My collection of Glenn may be small, but it's growing. Anyway, can someone please tell me how many Samhain albums there are and what are they? Especially, is there a Samhain II? Thanks, Hollister ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 95 14:11:56 EST From: G Subject: Submission to Bible:7" I purchased Maybe somebody can help me identify a 7" I recently purchased. It contains Horror Hotel, Ratfink, and Spook City. That is exactly how the song names are printed. Is this the Fiend Club E.P.? It is red vinyl, and comes with a poster of a show they were to play. I know it is a boot, it didn't cost much. Thanks, G. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 21:37:15 -0800 (PST) From: Old Latrobe Subject: Obtaining Misfits stuff. Hi. I've been listening to the Misfits since I was in 7th grade and I was really happy to find the bible. Anyways, I have all the standard released shit, except Earth AD, and I was wondering if anyone out there is willing to sell or copy (I'd pay for it of course) any Misfits things that I don't have. Also, if anyone has any other punk stuff they want to trade or sell please e-mail me. Thanks a heap and may the Force be with you, always. Chris Galbraith (chrisgal@gladstone.uoregon.edu) ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 17:44:49 -0500 Subject: Doy fan club, Jerry's b-day, etc two things this week:: 1) Anyone on the Doyle Fan Club List should be getting a postcard in the mail within two weeks. This postcard will have an unexpected return address, check it out!! Anyone who doesn't receive a postcard within two weeks should get in touch w/me immed.. I lost a small file on my harddrive containing about 10 names.. My apologies to those of you affected.. Please Do Not resend your addresses unless you *do not* recieve a postcard..!!!! 2) a small announcement...Everyone is invited to a birthday party for Jerry Only, he will be 36. Party is on April 21st in the lobby of the Meadowlands Hilton, East Rutherford, NJ.. Come one come all. Mark & Liz I look forward to meeting you both, and any others for that matter. In the upcoming months we will have plenty to talk about concerning the Misfits. That should make the vast majority of you happy. I see we have *finally* hit the magic # 138 it's about time!! btw- Someone asked about "We are 138" READ THE BACK ISSUES just this once, the song refers to having a number instead of a name. Nothing less nothing more. For those of us that have been on this list since day 1, and those that took the time to read the back issues, these questions seem pointless and annoying. (Mark, Liz maybe we should work up a list of FAQ's) Eerie Von Bouras,, are you secretly pissed at me or something. I feel real venom towards me in your posts lately ??? please RSVP Via Email ps. I really didn't mean anything w/ the fanzine remark. till thurs.......CG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 12:41:33 +0300 (EET) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: some more comments (how original)... Just some comments on Brent's last comments : > Hi - > The title says it all. I was kind of miffed at the fact that in the > last Bible, EVB had to give her life story just because some "punker than > thous" had to spark the punk debate and question her knowledge and > experience. There was no "questioning" of anything. It was merely a case of an unjustified comment made by her (Misfits popularity) so , for my peace of mind, I wanted to see where she was coming from. (I hope we got this cleared Elizabeth) > She should not have to do this because as I said before, she > has proven that she is one of the foremost and informed people on the list, > up there with Mark and Crimsy. Nobody doubted that (at least not me) > For instance, I was sifting through some of that old > punk bullshit and came across some "punker than thou" Please, dont EVER call me that again! (oh, in case you're "wondering" I was the one who (didnt) "wrote" what you (didnt) quote below). I'm the last person on this universe that claims to be punk (let alone punker than anything else) > who said something > like, "Johnny Rotten was not into drugs and neither were the other Pistols" There's a few things that I HATE! One of them is people using other people's words in a different context or just changing the original words and giving them a new meaning (our case) altogether! Next time try to quote me! ... And here goes what I originally said : CG > the Sex Pistols were created by the record company they were nothing more CG > than drug addict bums, sid didn't even know how to play. YANNIS - The Sex Pistols were created by Malcolm Mc Laren (nothing to do with YANNIS the record company). YANNIS - John Lydon was not even drinking, let alone doing drugs! YANNIS - Sid started doing drugs long after he joined the S.P. YANNIS - The guitar player was totally into music and didnt do drugs either YANNIS (he was drinking though) YANNIS - I don't even like the Sex Pistols! YANNIS These *are* some facts! All I meant was that the Pistols members were not junkies *before* joining the Pistols, ok??? Just because CG implied they were druggies when Mc Laren found them.... Look, I lived in England for a few years and you get the fucking Sex Pistols tribute every year on TV (including live, RnR swindle, interviews, the whole lot). I dont like the Pistols but I am a bit informed about them. > I read your stuff, Yannis, and of course some people only look at punk > politically. No shit. But that doesn't define it. Sorry. Can we (meaning > every fiend and their keyboard out there) finally move on to something else now? > Please?? I didnt even think about trying to define it! I *only* said that there are 2 sides in it (as in everything). Please try to read my posts more carefully! > Allright, my time is up. I leave you with a quote from Guy P. of > Fugazi. I'd like to dedicate this one to Yannis (no hard feelings). > > * "They want us to supply some kind of message, but if I wanted to express > a message in that way I would have been a politician. I'm not. I'm a > MUSICIAN. It's in the songs. It's there for people to use or not use." * I mean, thanks for the quote but do you not understand that I m NOT one of the anarchist_political_purist_punks ?! This goes for the rest of the Bible too. I love punk music but I would never consider myself to be a punk in the first place. Ok, as Brent said , enough with that.... Yannis p.s : sorry for the long post (and most of it is isn't even my stuff). ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ------------------------------ From: My Account Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 12:12:23 +0100 Subject: records I would like to by old misfits records, like Beware 12". If you by any chance would like to sell records to me, send a letter to this address: Rickard Oman Runbyvagen 9A 19440 Upplands Vasby SWEDEN Note: I dont want any bootlegs! ------------------------------ From: MikeMoll@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 21:36:14 -0500 Subject: new albums I heard from mark that a few new fits albums are coming out. one of them the long awaited static age album. What do you guys know about this?-mike ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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RE: #56 New Misfits Fan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 13:45:31 -0400 (EST) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: somnambulance Another neat made up Glennism is "epidermoty" or "epidermity" or whatever from Mommy. That new Gwar vid I saw mentioned (Skulhedface) is actually really bad... it's got Jello Biafra in part of it, but otherwise it's really horrible. And I mean dull, lest anyone mistake me for some prudish Rev. Wildmon character. Hey- some Butt doesn't like the Glenn and Henry fight. Give me a break. As if we are some elite intelligentsia debating compelling issues on this list. Henry and Glenn are both violent buttholes, and I think it's fun to ramble about it. In fact, I'll do it just to piss off anyone who thinks communication is supposed to serve some higher purpose. umm.. that's all. I'll think of more ways to annoy everybody later. Teevie ------------------------------ From: She Subject: last time Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:57:27 EST Mike Westlake - There's no Samhain II , but in between Initium and November Coming Fire ther was the Unholy Passion 12". And then in 1990 they released the Final Descent LP and that's all. Gmyers- > Maybe somebody can help me identify a 7" I recently purchased. It > contains Horror Hotel, Ratfink, and Spook City. That is exactly how > the song names are printed. Is this the Fiend Club E.P.? It is red > vinyl, and comes with a poster of a show they were to play. I know > it is a boot, it didn't cost much. Thanks, G. Indeed, this is a reissue of the Fiend Club EP, called Fiend Club - 3 Old Songs. In fact, if you look closely it should say it somewhere on the 7". Again, if anyone has questions aobut official releases and bootlegs, please consult the discography. It's on the Web Page and also at ftp.uwp.edu in the incoming/discog directories. This would save a lot of the same old questions from being asked. And if anyone wants, I can email you the discog if you can't get to either of those sources. mark > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 12:16:44 PST From: Robert Flemming Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #56 >Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:21:53 -0500 >From: bloodboy >Subject: re: damage comments >Misfits songs are really, really easy to play. I learned almost all of >them when I got the tab from the homepage. I suggest you get a few average >musicians together who can play fast and start a Misfits cover band. Of >course, the lyrics are a little harder to tackle. It took me a while to >just learn "Mommy...". But it's definitely possible and it's a lot of fun. Didn't your mommy teach to give credit where credit is due? Did you think that the tab just suddenly appeared there? Sheesh...all that time I spent tabbing and Rick and I don't even get a thanks. =) I'll call it even if you can figure out the tab to Hellhound. Out of all 60 or so songs that I figured out for the WWW page, that one still escapes me. Feel free to send cash donations though...=) /| __ ___ ___ __ |\ ******************************| -- -^ \_/ ^- -- |****************** * morrigu@uclink.berkeley.edu \ ---_ _--- / * * & ----^\| _>_<_ |/^---- Robert Flemming * * rflemmin@ced.berkeley.edu / --- / \ --- \ * ************************************\__/| -^- |\__/************************ \ MMM / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 15:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: GOAT Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #56 Hey all! Another great bible, I must say. I can't remember who made the post about Marilyn Manson, but I must agree that they are a great band. I saw them Saturday night in Providence, and it was amazing. Well, besides the facts that the club dragged the show out until 2 a.m., there were a bunch of big, drunk, mean, mother fuckers there, our car got locked in the parking garage, when we finally got out it broke down on the way home, we slept in a hotel lobby, and all caught pneumonia or something, the night was pretty cool. MM is definitely a bizzare band. That was the second time I have seen them, and I think I liked them a lot more on their own tour than I did with NIN. I felt they were allowed more creativity and that they expressed themselves a lot more. The first opening band, Umbrella, was so terrible that they got booed off stage (after kicking some guy in the face), but the second band, Monster Voodoo Machine, rocked. I wouldn't mind seeing them again. They let people on stage to dive and really got the crowd psyched for MM. All in all the show was fantastic. Just a few words of advice though: I wouldn't recommed going to Club Babyhead for shows. Granted, they have some good acts go there, but they drag the shows out as long as they can so they can pump alcohol all night. We stood waiting for two hours before they even did sound check. It really kills the vibe of the concert since you have to wait so long between sets. That's just my opinion though. Has anyone checked the hotline lately? If so, is there any word on a definitive opening band? My vote is still for Zombie, but MM would be cool too. Also, I had heard that this tour was hitting different cities than the last one. Any idea what those cities might be? I'm really curious about this tour. I guess you can chalk it up to anticipation or something. I guess I'll find out soon enough though right? Funny little thing happened to me the other day. I was in the library at school and I had on my coat with a Danzig pin on it. This girl working the counter looked at me and said (in a very snotty voice) "Do you like Danzig or did you just like the pin?" I thought that was so funny. It took me like five seconds to shoot her down. She thought she was really awesome, but she didn't know shit about the band. Isn't it funny when people try to make you look stupid when they really have no clue? I thought it was kinda crazy. Anyway, nothin much else to say. I have to go to sleep now and try to get over this damn cold. See you all later! Angela- (I need a .sig!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:15:27 -0500 (EST) From: Brent Eyestone Subject: crack, blowjobs, and your mother I'm calm - Well, after reading the latest Bible, I just had to laugh at the ignorance of Fernando Lopez - excuse me - "NANDO." If you would read my posts you would understand why I stick up for CG and EVB. You would understand the point behind my "life story." How the hell does what I wrote there make me a deity? I don't recall ever professing to be such. In a recent letter to Yannis, I told him, "You and I would be standing together as the last people to call ourselves punk." So where's the deity thing from? Also, if you really did READ the Bibles, you wouldn't be saying that CG and EVB are "young adults." EVB is a mature woman, CG a full grown man. I'm the "young adult." I stick up for them because they know enough and have been around long enough to command RESPECT (something you obviously have none of). Also, I do this in hopes that they would do the same for me should something come up. How many times do I have to stress how important it is to RESPECT the people who know more than you and are willing to share their knowledge?? You're the one who SHOULD be "sucking CG's dick." Honestly, would you know all of the things that you know about the Misfits etc. if it weren't for these two people?? I didn't think so. It's nice to see that Baylor U. is turning out literary geniuses like you Fernando! A big hand for your English department! Where else could we find a department who teaches people to write clear sentences like: "Who are to say who is right and who is wrong." ....wow, now that is one fine sentence! I like how you took subject-verb agreement and just brought it to new levels! I mean the "are" right behind the "who" in reference to a singular subject - phenomenal!! And the omission of a question mark - pure genius! Also, I agree that writing should be spelled "writting," deity should be "diety," and glad as "gald." My god, I don't think the world has seen a finer writer since Frost! I really hope you keep trying to flame me because it provides a new challenge everytime - just trying decipher it is half the fun! Just curious - would a DIETy be someone like Oprah? Anyways, now that I've ripped "Nando's" shit up, I just wanted to say that the whole Brent-Yannis thing has been settled outside of the Bible. We both fully understand each other and RESPECT one another's opinions, etc. So, don't expect anymore from that debate and we will return to more relavent things starting with the next issue. Until then - Brent E. ("Singled out the kids that were mean to me.....") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 18:02:37 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: Misfits cover bands :) Damn, I thought the idea was mine! Well, weire almost up and running, we just need a drum kit. How does two mods, a skin, and a straight edge punk playing Misfits covers sound? We're called Misfits Jr. and we will rock as soon as we practice... Am I the only one who automatically skips any messages that have the word "punk"in them? If you don't have anything new to say... Dempz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 21:12:17 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: revelation On my second glance through the last Bible, something really hit home. I think that Bloodboy came closer than anyone to defining "what punk is." Here we all were pounding away at our keyboards telling each other how wrong everyone was - then Bloodboy writes "it's an adrenaline rush" in reference to playing the Misfits live with his band. Man, now that's what it is all about - just some kids pounding away somewhere in a garage or basement, just like the Misfits, just like anyone. Thanks Bloodboy, and good luck with your band (don't kill each other). Punk controversy R.I.P.!!! -Brent E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 22:18:28 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Samhain II *** For Mike Westlake *** : I don't know every release they did, but here's a shot: Samhain (I) - Initium Samhain II - Unholy Passion Samhain III - November Coming Fire Final Descent - More like Danzig, IMO Samhain II / Unholy Passion was released on album (tan and burgundy) and also on Cassette with Initium (however you can't get this anymore) I have also seen the Samhain Initium CD (orange lettering, not red) which contained Unholy Passion at the end... HOWEVER, this is not *really* the album, but the different version of Unholy Passion that also appears as half of Final Descent. Confused? Good... To Everyone else: Does anyone know the going rate on UP? I know it depends if you have tan/burgundy jacket, or colored vinyl, and an infinite combination thereof. My friend was able to pick up a Tan with Black Vinyl for a measly 25 bux... However that was awhile ago... Any info or email welcome... snook@umich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:09:39 -0600 (CST) From: Belle Wood Subject: All apologies.... Chad Biafra, Please, please, please accept my humblest apologies. I thought that Crimson Ghost had put out the question about where Misfits stuff had been spotted. Thanks for the correction. Once again, I'm sorry. ;) And to Nando, I don't think Liz was vying for props or was even telling us her life story. She was simply stating her point, then providing historical background as bedrock for the point she was making. It was a valid argument rhetorically speaking. She was not trying to make anyone worship her for having a lot of knowledge; Liz is above such self-aggrandizement. Besides, I enjoyed her post much more than most of the posts that I've read recently in the bible. I just wish I could have been there. So to Liz, please keep gracing the bible with your presence, knowledge and insights. Am I her mother? No, just a person with some healthy respect for people who've been there, done that. Thanks much, Belle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:30:07 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #56 >From: Mike Westlake >Subject: Misfits >Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 09:37:15 -0500 (EST) > >I'm still quite new to this internet thing, so you must excuse my ignorance, >but since I don't know how to post what I find to be my favorite misfits >tracks...for your viewing pleasure, here ya go: > >Bullet >London Dungeon >Astro Zombies >Angelfuck >Last Caress (because only Glenn can do it properly) >Teenagers from Mars / Children in Heat >Die, Die My Darling >Skulls >Attitude (What the fuck was Axl Rose thinking?!) >She (w/ electric sync-piano) > >An added extra: American Nightmare (Elvis on acid) > >Thanks, >Mike Westlake > >Also, have you ever seen Earth A.D.,Wolf's Blood,Die, Die My Darling ep's on >compact disc. Bootleg or not. I'm still searching. Those EP's were combined and placed onto the Earth A.D. limited edition gold cd. There's nothing new on it, it'd be better to buy the tape instead of searching for it your whole life. Actually, though, if you search hard enough, you will find it. I just bought it over my Thanksgiving break, down in Georgetown. -child in heat- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 17:38:39 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: WEE! (c) Ok a few things. First I wish I could come to Jerry Only's b-day party but I can't. Does he still collect heads? I'll send him my sister's. :) One more thing yes I did join the fan club but I received no conformation of joining so am I just to assume I am in? Thats about it. Oh yeah and about guitar stuff for Misfits. I can do "London Dungenon" and "TeenagersFrom Mars". I tried wining the bass opener before for "Hollywood Babylon". I'd love a bass tab for that. ------------------------------ From: WARRIOR138@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:29:00 -0500 Subject: turquoise afternoon IF I SEE ONE MORE TIME THE WORDS "GREEN" AND "DAY" USED NEXT TO EACH OTHER IN THE BIBLE, I AM GOING TO START SEVERELY MAIMING ANYTHING I COME ACROSS!!!! THIS THING IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THE MISFITS!!!!! YOU CAN TELL THAT BY THE NAME-THE *MISFITS* BIBLE. NOT THE GREEN DAY BIBLE. GOT IT, PEOPLE????? i feel better now that i have got that out of my system --THE ALMIGHTY WARRIOR, CONQUER OF WORLDS ------------------------------ From: My Account Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:49:27 +0100 Subject: Something on swedish Ville bara saga att Misfits ar det basta bandet nagonsin! Hmm, folk blir nog arga nar dom inte fattar vad jag skriver. Hej da! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 13:48:45 +0300 (EET) From: Gianardi Subject: comments on #56 Just some comments on last issue... > 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote : > > Just thoguht that everyone'd like to know that last Sunday, Feb. 5, my > brother Jim Wessel, who is on this list via WARRIOR138@aol.com, completed > a half-marathon on the Antarctic continent. Well, congratulations Warrior! > I'd also like to note that next Sunday, the 12th, will have been his BDay, so > if anyone wants to send him belated BDay greetings....(he'll be 17). I know its a bit late now... but Happy Birthday Jim > if Jerry and Doyle continue on with the 'Fits without Glenn > and 12 years after the break-up, fuck 'em. To me and a LOT of people, > Glenn WAS the MIsfits, Better, *just* speak for yourself! Yea, without Glenn the Misfits probably would've never existed but for people like me, that haven't seen the Misfits playing live (living in Greece had something to do with it), it's like a dream come true! (I mean seeing the Misfits playing live, because I'm not bothered if they put out a record or not). > Che wrote : > as far as the punk thing goes fuck whoever started it. if you're so > goddamn punk you should be out spraypainting shit or something as > stupid. punk is far past gone . give it up > che Oh dear... > Rocky wrote : > question: why is it that everyone who listened to the misfits then danzig, > likes misfits more than danzig?? I don't know about others but I know about me. When I heard about Danzig (the band), I wasn't expecting the Misfits 2nd coming but sure, I expected something closer to the Misfits not closer to Black Sabbath (who I love by the way). I guess Glenn had other things on his mind... Take, for example Rollins and Ginn. When Black Flag disbanded, Rollins got Rollins band together and they were great; so did Ginn. He got a few lp's out and the music was great (for my taste). I was thinking G. Danzig would stick to his past a bit more... (by the way, when Danzig I came out, I've never heard about Samhain (still haven't)) Unholy Living Dead wrote : > Second, on the punk vs. non-punk, punk crowd vs. metal crowd thread, ugh. There was no such thread. > Correction. I listened to King Diamond and nothing else. Ever. Did you used to be into Mercufyl Fate too? They were one of the few metal bands I thought were worth it. ----- Anyway, thats it for now, Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:10:23 -0500 (EST) From: Damage Subject: Re : Bible #56 - Misfits better than Danzig.. * Bloodboy - I will definitely at least experiment with a few guys soon in terms of a band.. thing is, I can't find the right type of guys.. one is an incredible guitarist, but because of this wants to show off all the time.. Can't play more than 3 chords before going into a solo.. Loses interest.. Anyway, I can anticipate that adrenalin rush of doing 'fits songs.. It gets me going just listening or singing them alone.. * Rocky - You made the comment about people liking Misfits more than Danzig or eeven hearing Danzig first, but still saying Misfits are better.. Don't know why people say that.. Maybe to not sound like a really recent fan or something? Who knows.. I don't care.. PERSONALLY, I like Samhain the best of ANY of Glenn's works.. Misfits next.. But your point is definitely good.. * All those who were wondering about "somnambulance" as a real word - I remember my english teacher using it in some sentence, and I got all excited and started singing NOTLD in my head.. Because I didn't think it was a real word either... Apparently it is. - Your brand new god damage@interactive.net ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: RE: #56 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:51:00 est Thanks to those who've written me on the Danzig FAQ! I'm working on revisions & expanding its & I'll post to alt.music.danzig when that's done. Meanwhile if anybody wants a copy e-mail me and I can send it to you - also Mark has added it to his Misfits web page (thanks Mark!) RE: She/Angela As for the Danzig demos - this tape was floating around even before their first album came out! It has versions of a lot of what's on the first album, including a faster version of "Twist of Cain" & some drastically different versions of songs that appeared on the first album (as well as "The Birthing" that later showed up on Final Descent" ); some with different lyrics. There are two versions of "Trouble", one of which has a wonderfully spooky sounding organ, also "When Death Has No Name" and a completely unreleased track that's pretty fast & reminds me a lot of "Electric" era Cult (and I have no idea what the title is & can't make out any of the lyrics). (Sorry but my tape is at home & I'm writing from work so I can't give the track listing offhand) A lot of these tracks later turned up on a bootleg album called "Demos 88" that is TERRIBLE sound quality - many generations down from the original tape... Avoid that & go for the tape instead. Geoff Weasel - congrad to your bro! PumroyKJ98% - Now I feel guilty as I beat ya too the "Beware & the rest" so you prolly think I'm greedy as I already have all the singles but I figured the CD would be better for constant playing. But if you want I can tape it for ya! Fernando Lopez - Are you trying to start an entire flame war by throwing the equivalent of a few electronic molotov cocktails? Prolly a good thing I've got a good sense of humor and just laughed my ass off when I read your ridiculous post. I just remind myself (continually) that the constitutional freedom of speech guarantees everybody's tight to make an ass out of themselves in public should they choose to do so... Mike Westlake - the combined Earth AD/Wolf's Blood/Die Die compact disc only came out in Germany (but it does exist and it is legit) and is VERY hard to find! I spent years searching for it & finally found mine through an ad in GOLDMINE magazine last year. Good luck! Unholy Living Dead - Yeah Marilyn Manson!! I FINALLY got to see them two days ago (what a great way to celebrate Valentine's day) and IMHO they were one of the absolute best live bands I've ever seen! Now I'm praying that rumor of them praying they'll be with Danzig turns out to be true - I think it would be an amazing lineup. Even better if they added White Zombie into the bill!! Gotta say the crowd was odd - I've never seen so many really young kids in the 9:30 Club - I think the average age there was 15 and all these little gothettes kept throwing themselves at Mr. Manson. Very weird indeed given the fact that he goes out of his way to make himself as unattractive as possible (and has even said so)... Mike Westlake - there are 4 Samhain releases, as follows: I - Initium, LP, release 1984 II - Unholy Passion 12" EP, released 1985, deleted & now out of print as such III - November Coming Fire, LP released 1986 IV - Final Descent, LP released 1990 of previously unreleased tracks adding the out of print Unholy Passion CD. Check Mark's web page for a complete Samhain discography or I can e-mail you the one I wrote for the Danzig FAQ that lists all tracks etc (mine is a combined Misfits, Danzig and Samhain discog - it's not as comprehensive as Mark's and I do not intend to duplicate his efforts but does list everything) CG - Thanks for inviting everybody to Jerry's b-'day party!! I'm definitely planning on going & really looking forward to it & getting a chance to finally meet you & hopefully some of the others on this mailing list!!! Here's a question - what would a good b'day present be? Does Jerry collect anything or have any hobbies aside from his music? I'd like to find something cool.... Definitely like the idea of a Misfits FAQ - let's do it! Anybody want to contribute questions - e-mail them to me and I'll start compiling!! Nikoloupoulos - All cleared as far as I'm concerned! Bye for now! -EVB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 15:43:51 -0800 From: John Frederick Subject: New Misfits Fan First of all, thanks for adding me to your list. I'm new to both the internet and the Misfits and I can honestly say I like the Misfits a hell of a lot more than this computer. I've only been able to find Legacy of Brutality and Misfits on CD and would like very much to read e-mail from anyone who would be interested in selling other recordings or whatever. I recently acquired two 3rd(?) generation concerts on video. Using the wonderful Misfits Central homepage I was able to determine that one of the concerts was from the 10/31/82 show at Bethlehem, PA. The other is supposedly from a 1983 show in California, but I have been unable to find out which show it was. If anyone knows, please e-mail or post it. The show is aprox. 30 minutes long. I noticed some talk of GWAR in the last bible and would also like to hear from any fans of them. Thanx for reading. ============================================================================ ============ "running as fast as i can to stay in the same place" John Frederick soon to be photographer of the soon to be famous punk/industrial group: my sweet silent inner hell e-mail yyj00221@cyberstore.ca ============================================================================ ============ ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Why be something you're not *FLASH* News of new Danzig dates Misfits & Danzig + GWAR wee! danzine Horror Con + EVB's new addy marilyn mason EVILIVE & DIE DIE MY DARLING ON CASSETTE VIA INTERNET Samhain Picture Notes and the such... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: again Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 13:07:40 EST EVB: > > Mike Westlake - the combined Earth AD/Wolf's Blood/Die Die compact disc only > came out in Germany (but it does exist and it is legit) and is VERY hard to > find! I spent years searching for it & finally found mine through an ad in > GOLDMINE magazine last year. Good luck! You mean the Evilive/Earth AD/WolfsBlood CD, don't you? The gold Earth AD CD came out here in April '92. YYJ > Misfits Central homepage I was able to determine that one of the concerts was > from the 10/31/82 show at Bethlehem, PA. The other is supposedly from a 1983 > show in California, but I have been unable to find out which show it was. If > anyone knows, please e-mail or post it. The show is aprox. 30 minutes long. The California show was the Goleta Club show from Santa Barbara, CA in February of '83. Check the Misfits Discog again. It has it listed in the "Creepy Compilation" video bootleg. mark > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 13:27:03 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: apologies to Robert My apologies for not giving you and Rick credit for the tab. I didn't mean that they were easy to figure out; I meant that they were physically easy to play once you have the tab. And perhaps that was a generalization; some are harder to play than others, as well. I really do appreciate all the time you and Rick put in on the tab. It is certainly an impressive accomplishment and I'm being sincere when I say that. bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 13:46:39 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #57 I've heard Bloodboy's band. Boy do they suck! They play Mommy worse than my Grandmother (and my Grandmother uses the Jewsharp!). :) -child in heat- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:02:09 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Flemming Subject: Re: Gabriel Palczewski's WEE! (c) > Thats about it. Oh yeah and about guitar stuff for Misfits. I can > do "London Dungenon" and "TeenagersFrom Mars". I tried wining the bass > opener before for "Hollywood Babylon". I'd love a bass tab for that. Dude, it's the same as the guitar chord changes. Try alternating between E and G to get that gallop feel. The chords are the same and always will be. A lot of times it is just a gallop between the root and the octave (ie. TV Casualty, Static Age) But I'm pretty sure (from memory) that if you hop between E and G you'll get it. =) They really aren't "that" tough. /| __ ___ ___ __ |\ ******************************| -- -^ \_/ ^- -- |****************** * morrigu@uclink.berkeley.edu \ ---_ _--- / * * & ----^\| _>_<_ |/^---- Robert Flemming * * rflemmin@ced.berkeley.edu / --- / \ --- \ * ************************************\__/| -^- |\__/************************ \ MMM / ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 21:02:58 -0500 (EST) From: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: replies and stuff >From: WARRIOR138@aol.com >Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:29:00 -0500 >Subject: turquoise afternoon > >IF I SEE ONE MORE TIME THE WORDS "GREEN" AND "DAY" USED NEXT TO EACH OTHER IN >THE BIBLE, I AM GOING TO START SEVERELY MAIMING ANYTHING I COME ACROSS!!!! > THIS THING IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THE MISFITS!!!!! YOU CAN TELL THAT BY THE >NAME-THE *MISFITS* BIBLE. NOT THE GREEN DAY BIBLE. GOT IT, PEOPLE????? > >i feel better now that i have got that out of my system Yipes! Go Jim Go!! >From: My Account >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:49:27 +0100 >Subject: Something on swedish > >Ville bara saga att Misfits ar det basta bandet nagonsin! >Hmm, folk blir nog arga nar dom inte fattar vad jag skriver. >Hej da! well, welcome to the list, too bad I don't speak Swedish.. *shrug* >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 13:48:45 +0300 (EET) >From: Gianardi >Subject: comments on #56 >> if Jerry and Doyle continue on with the 'Fits without Glenn >> and 12 years after the break-up, fuck 'em. To me and a LOT of people, >> Glenn WAS the MIsfits, > >Better, *just* speak for yourself! Yea, without Glenn the Misfits >probably would've never existed but for people like me, that haven't seen >the Misfits playing live (living in Greece had something to do with >it), it's like a dream come true! (I mean seeing the Misfits playing live, >because I'm not bothered if they put out a record or not). Well, of course I can only speka for myself. However, it's the principle involved. If the BEATLES reuinted with Julian Lennon instead of his late father, I wouldn't go. I don't want dinosaurs, ESPECIALLY incomplete ones, anymore. We mock those who saw the Rolling Stones (well, just as an example) but yet we'll go see the Glenn-less Misfits? Funk dat. I'm sck and tired of punk bands suddenly reuinting after 10-odd years just becuase they're broke and nobodies anymore. For once, I agree with Kent McClard. >From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" >Subject: RE: #56 >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:51:00 est >Geoff Weasel - congrad to your bro! Why don't you congrad HIM?! He's back now! :P ;) OK, other things: Nando (Iknow this is a week old by now) -- eat my ass. Crimson Ghost and Eerie Von Bouras are two highly respected members of this list. YOU are a newbie, and a witless one at that. Know your place, twerp. Samhain ][/"Unholy Passion" -- My friend Jeremy has an original copy of the 12" that he got off an ex-girlfriend. :) I saw this zine the other day called HMM? WHAT? out of suburban Chicago, and the author reprinted ("without permission as my personal 'Fuck You' to Glenn!") the lyrics of WALK AMONG US in its entirety, with teh tagline (that he put in) "All Lyrics Copyright 1980 Bobby Steele." Choad.... --- Geoff We@sel Tune in, turn on, drop dead ------------------------------ From: Neil McAllister Subject: Stuff Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 21:42:06 -0800 (PST) > Mike Westlake - the combined Earth AD/Wolf's Blood/Die Die compact disc only > came out in Germany (but it does exist and it is legit) and is VERY hard to > find! I spent years searching for it & finally found mine through an ad in > GOLDMINE magazine last year. Good luck! I wouldn't have believed I'd be correcting EVB on this list, but here you go! The Earth AD/Wolfs Blood/Die Die CD *DID* indeed get released in the US. I know because I bought it at a record store in Berkeley, who had about 5 copies which dwindled away slowly over a course of 4-5 months after I bought mine. (The store in question has never carried bootleg CDs either, at least not mixed in with the regular releases and certainly not in that quantity.) Nowadays you can't find it anywhere. You may be confusing this with the version of Earth AD/Wolfs Blood that had 2 of the 3 Die Die My Darling tracks that was released only in Germany -- but this was only on vinyl. The CD release was just a couple of years ago and included the US of A. -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@netcom.com) | Santa Cruz, California, USA "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." -- Ben Kenobi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 13:03:46 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Siegel Subject: March 25 is the day! Danzig w/ Marilyn Manson and Korn. March 25 Universal Amphitheatre, Hollywood. If anyone knows how to get tickets for the pit, could you e-mail me PLEASE?! ------------------------------ From: My Account Date: Fri, 17 Feb 95 13:13:31 +0100 Subject: Why be something you're not Hello everybody. I have a copy of the program "Why be something you're not" which features a 25 minutes long live performance with the Misfits. Now I wonder, when did this take place and where? I think it was before Earth A.D. came out. They talk about their tour and their new record (Earth A.D.) and Glenn doesn't call himself Danzig. If you have any information about this program, please send it here immediately! ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: *FLASH* News of new Danzig dates Date: Fri, 17 Feb 95 13:39:00 est EV finally changed the hot line message again [call (213) 489-6164 for the latest news!] and said that they will be playing in San Francisco either March 24th or 25th, and LA at the Universal Amphitheater in Universal Studios on March 25th or 26th (he couldn't remember which). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 14:07:02 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Misfits & Danzig + GWAR wee! First off I think Glenn kinda progressed in a way. Samhain was close to Misfits and slowly Samhain became what Danzig is. I think Glenn found punk a tad too limiting which in a way it can be with someone with his ideas. First punk uses fast guitars and lots of fast shouting and such. Most punk bands arn't looking for lead singers who can sing harmonies or apreciate Glenn's voice. He probably found it easier to use his voice for what its best at. Blues based metal. Notice Danzig did start out with 3 members of former punk bands.. Glenn (Misfits), Chuck (Black Flag), and Eerrie (Samhain and RB). He obviously wanted to surround himself with people who shared his old tastes of music and maybe even his modern taste but never expresses it. I think John was added because he was a great guitarist and the key Glenn needed to make his "dream" band I guesse. As for Misfits I take nothing away from them. For a punk band they were great but slower blues songs and wailing guitars are not something to be found in most punk bands and since Samhain was pretty deep for most of Glenn's old punk fans to get he probably didn't feel like keeping himself in the punk genre when in the metal genre this stuff is widely excepted even if it is not understood totally. I don't know which band I like better of the 3 Glenn bands. Its a big fight between Danzig and Misfits. I havn't really gotten into Samhain too much though FINAL DESCENT is a cool album. As for that GWAR fan. Yes I am a GWAR fan and if you don't know they have a homepage at http://www.iuma.com/gwar ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: danzine Date: Sat, 18 Feb 95 1:27:07 MEZ just got this "danzine" today, danzig zine (as the title suggests...). lots of infos, some interviews, original ads for danzig stuff (some in dutch!!) etc. oh yes, and discographies (regular and bootlegs) with pic sleeves shown. all the info is in german, but there are some real cool pix, and the printing quality is ok, too. there are also some misfits pix i have never seen before. don't have the address here, but i can post it if anyone is interested. also, sorry about the Last Gasp 7"; i thought i would get some more copies but the guy told me he didn't have any more copies. flex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 09:26:32 -0500 From: Elizabeth Bouras Subject: Horror Con + EVB's new addy Well, I'm finally set up and running at home now thanx to a local provider, so PLEASE make a note of my new e-mail addy if you wish to write me!! the new addy is: "sistinas@planetcom. com" Hopefully now I won't have to risk getting nailed at work if they ever found out how much work I wasn't doing! More info now on those two new Danzig shows, they are: March 24th, 1995 at the Warfield in San Francicos March 25th, 1995 at the Universal Amphitheater in LA Wish I could make it but it's just not feasible (I'm broke now from the new PC!) Also, I just got a flyer for the Chiller Theater Horror Convention that is running concurrent with Jerry Only's birthday party!! (They moved up the date this year as it used to be in May) The convention is April 21, 22 & 23 at the Meadowlands Hilton Hotel (2 Harmon Plaza, Secaucus, New Jersey) Their special guest star is ELVIRA with others to be announced & the con will also feature model contests, a huge dealer's room where you can buy model kits, comics, toys, videos, magazines, books, posters & other collectibles; film screenings, art contests, costume contest & autograph sessions. You can tickets at the door for $13 per day or a special 3 day pass for $25. Advance tickets are available at $10 a day or 3 day VIP pass for $20. Send to: Chiller Theater, PO Box 23, Rutherford, NJ 07070. I'll be going up for the weekend as I always make this con so I hope I'll be able to meet some of you there!! If anybody needs more info or directions please e-mail me and I'll try to help! (It is VERY easy to find!) RE: "somnabulance" - yes it is a word!! Just checked my copy of the Oxford English Dictionary and they define it as "sleep-walking, somnabulism". If it's a word, it's on the O.E.D. (most dictionaries don't have everything otherwise they'd be 20 volumes long.... I've got the condensed O.E.D. in two huge volumes with the type reduced so much that it comes with its own magnifying glass...) Oh...correction to my last post in #57 (reply to Mike Westlake)- the German Earth AD CD I was referring to is the one that also contains "Evilive" (and is the only available CD version of that). I just spaced things - sorry! Reples to others: Goat - YEA MARILYN MANSON!! Just got tickets for their Philly show on 2/25 at the TLA (anybody here going?) & am looking forward to it. Now I REALLY hope they tour with Danzig! Brent - hey, thanks for sticking up for me (tho I liked "young adult" better than "mature woman" - help, I'm aging with every mailing!) hehehe.... Eric Snook - Going rate on UP? It varies a lot - I see the black vinyl versions going aywhere from $30 - $60, the colored vinyl for $50 - $80. Just ballpark figures but it will hopefully give you an idea. $25 for the black vinyl is a bargain! Warrior 138 - my roomie is still laughing over your subject header "turquoise afternoon"! John Frederick - Welcome aboard! I can prolly i.d. that California Misfits video from, 1983 - most likely its the one from the Goleta Center in Santa Barbara, CA. (It's the only 1983 california 'fits show I know of floating around on video...) That's all folks! - EVB ------------------------------ Subject: marilyn mason Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 23:07:55 -0500 (EST) From: Paul D Hahn hi, i too agree that manson kicks ass live, but he has a slight ego problem. i was lucky enough to get backstage. i can't see manson accepting an opening act slot. the ego trip he was on was so incredible he had the balls to rip on the opening acts in front of them. to teevee, annoy away man:) to bloodboy, i agree misfits songs are easy to play, but they sound soo fuckin cool. paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 00:41:06 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: EVILIVE & DIE DIE MY DARLING ON CASSETTE VIA INTERNET I was on the telnet CDNOW.COM and looked under MISFITS and had cassete copies of EVILIVE and a EARTH A.D./DIE DIE MY DARLING compilation. I have not seen these listed in the discog or maybe I wasnt paying attention :) but anyhow you can order them directly on the InterNet. I already placed my order for them. I suggest you get in on it and get them. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 02:37:16 EST From: Daniel King I am just writing to tell you guys about me and to ask some questions since I am new here, first of all I am 15, and a MisFits FREAK! they are my favorite band and they ruled their time just as they rule now, my favorite song is Last Caress (although I have only heard the Metallica version) and I have legacy of brutality, Plan 9(?), and I am getting the gold earth ad cd from my friend, I am also buying my local record store out of misfits vinyl, but I WANT MORE!!! Then I found the home page, all I can say is, FUCKIN A! thanx people who made that one possible! now all we need is alt.punk.misfits now that would be cool! ok, well, I am rambling, so gotta end it all.... if there is a misfits fan club, email me a application! SELL ME YOUR MISFITS TAPES, CD's, AND VINYL! video tapes of concerts too......... ------------------------------ From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 11:13:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Samhain Picture Hey, did you all see that cool picture of Samhain in the new R.I.P. I don't know the issue #, but it has an article on the history of punk. They show some pretty good pictures of bands, but the Samhain one rules. By the way, I am also in what is the beginnings of a Misfits cover band. My friend Justin and I bash out whatever we can on the weekends. We're getting better, but still suck. We're the only people in our whole town (of 500 people, 130 high schoolers) that know so much as a song title by the Misfits. Our town is so wannabe, Green Day rules there, so does any other musical fad that comes through. (I remember well the dark ages of New Kids on the Block) Maybe we can shed some light on some real music for a change. I mean, I like Metallica, but if I hear another car go by with Wherever I may Roam, Fade to Black, or Enter Sandman blaring out of J. C. Whitney costom 10,000 watt midranges, I will start shooting. Sean M. ------------------------------ From: Chad Biafra Subject: Notes and the such... Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 16:18:59 -0600 (CST) Hey everyone... some notes on bibles #57/#54, respectively.. > From: stephen alan sisson > That new Gwar vid I saw mentioned (Skulhedface) is actually really bad... > it's got Jello Biafra in part of it, but otherwise it's really > horrible. And I mean dull, lest anyone mistake me for some prudish Rev. Yeah, you hit it on the spot.. I'm a big GWAR fan, and I thought it could've been a lot better... Although the cameos of Jello Sebastian Bach (so this is where he's at now... doing 30 seconds cameos in Gwar vids?) make it worth seeing.. > From: Belle Wood > Chad Biafra, > Please, please, please accept my humblest apologies. I thought that > Crimson Ghost had put out the question about where Misfits stuff had been > spotted. Thanks for the correction. Once again, I'm sorry. ;) Oh, hey, don't worry about it... No big deal at all! > From: Elizabeth B. > Chad Biafra - welcome to the bible - glad to have you aboard!! I'll try Thanks! > and answer a few of your questions. First off, no cassette or video > bootleg is rare - anybody who can dub two machines together and xerox the > covers can make as many as they want! So if you hav e a tape that matches Hopefully it's a given that bootlegs aren't rare... I mean, you're right, anyone can throw together a boot and put more/less stuff on it.. However, what I meant by rare was Last Caress... Just wondering if the version that was on this particular boot was rare... Sorry for the confusion... > The Danzig video boot is probably the Sheffield show from Sheffield England > in October 1988 when they were opening for Metallica on their British tour. > It's the only early Danzig video boot that I know of (all the rest I know > of are from later tours) & it's about 40 some minutes long. I dunno about > the stuff at the end - sounds like the bootlegger was just sloppy.. Hmmm... I watched the vid again, here is my best description: The place is real small, maybe 500 people... All the Marshall stacks are on the left side of the stage, Eerie is wearing a dago tee, Christ has no shirt on.. The songs they play are (in order): Twist of Cain Mother Am I Demon Mother of Mercy She Rides Horror Business Hunter Possession Not of This World so, yeah, it's definitely from their first tour... Glenn gets his mic snatched by the crowd a couple of times, and he slaps hands with them a lot... hope this can identify it... I'm just curious to find out where this came from.. > sign stuff for fans. The rare exception is of course when somebody brings > him a bootleg. I can't blame him for being pissed being as these are > illegally made products that are ripping him off. It's kinda insulting to > have somebody ask you to autograph something that is basically stolen > merchandise True, the guy was pretty stupid for bringing it, unless he didn't know it was a boot... On the other hand, however, there'd be stuff we would never see of the Misfits if people didn't boot it, so we can be thankful for that, at least... Later... Chad Biafra ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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I've been reading the Bible for a while now, and I think some of you may be interested in this... My freind and I are putting together a 'yellow pages' of the net. But not just ANY cheesy text document here. This is a gathering of all music industry people/bands/record labels/record manufacturers/ music magazines/radio staions/etc.. on the net. If you are any of the above things, you are welcome to contribute... Email addresses mostly, as well as specific info and some ftp/www sites. If you have something serious to contribute, email us at : feinberg@nevada.edu or ruiner@snark.wizard.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 11:10:25 -0500 From: She Subject: this > From: My Account > Subject: Why be something you're not > > I have a copy of the program "Why be something you're not" which features > a 25 minutes long live performance with the Misfits. > Now I wonder, when did this take place and where? > I think it was before Earth A.D. came out. > They talk about their tour and their new record (Earth A.D.) and Glenn > doesn't call himself Danzig. > If you have any information about this program, please send it here > immediately! Why does this bootleg come up so often? That show took place in January of 1983 in Dearborn Michigan. Earth A.D. hadn't come out yet, and wouldn't for at least another 10 months. At one point the interviewer asked the band members their names and Glenn said "Slim Whitman". This is a joke. He wasn't saying that his name was really Slim Whitman. Slim Whitman is some silly country singer from a long time ago. > From: Gabriel Palczewski > Subject: EVILIVE & DIE DIE MY DARLING ON CASSETTE VIA INTERNET > > I was on the telnet CDNOW.COM and looked under MISFITS and had > cassete copies of EVILIVE and a EARTH A.D./DIE DIE MY DARLING compilation. > I have not seen these listed in the discog or maybe I wasnt paying > attention :) but anyhow you can order them directly on the InterNet. I > already placed my order for them. I suggest you get in on it and get them. Of course these are in the discography as well as just about any good record store in America. I'd suggest you save your money and just find them in a store at your local mall. surely that's cheaper than mail order. Chad Biafra: About your Danzig video boot. Did you check the Danzig discography on the home page? The only video bootleg from the first tour is listed there with the same exact song listing as you have, except for one song. Are you sure that it's Possession and not Evil Thing? Everything about your description sounds like the Sheffield show, especially since it's the only known video of the first tour. I've got it at home too. mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 11:37:51 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #58 Why is that when Mike Westlake asked about the Earth A.D. cd, I replied one or two lists ago and this conversation is still going on? To Daniel King: "Settle down, Beavis, huh-uh." -child in heat_ i almost typed "chile in eat" that'd be kinda funny or "chile in heat" that makes sense. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 12:53:47 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Plater Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #58 > From: My Account > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 95 13:13:31 +0100 > Subject: Why be something you're not > > Hello everybody. > I have a copy of the program "Why be something you're not" which features > a 25 minutes long live performance with the Misfits. > Now I wonder, when did this take place and where? > I think it was before Earth A.D. came out. > They talk about their tour and their new record (Earth A.D.) and Glenn > doesn't call himself Danzig. > If you have any information about this program, please send it here > immediately! This is from a TV show in Ann Arbor, Michigan. I have an audio tape of this, I'd love to see th vid. Chuck Plater Student Consultant, Wayne State University ---------------------------------- "She lies and thinks she's in |cplater@pass.wayne.edu | love with him, can't find a |platerca@applelink.apple.com | better man" PJ, Betterman |Cplater@scil.pass.wayne.edu | ---------------------------------- CS/MU -d+ H++ s+:+ g- p? au a- w++ v* C++++ US++ P? L 3 E--- N+++ K- W-- M++ V po-- T+ t+++ !5 j- R G? tv+ b++ D+ B-- e+ u+ h!* f r n---- y+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 13:32:33 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: "Why Be Something..." "Why Be Something That You're Not" was a show on a cable public access channel that was done at Henry Ford Community College in Dearborn, Michigan (right by me :)). Of course this is all off the top of my head so I might be wrong, but I know for sure it was on public access in Dearborn. The title of the show is from a Negative Approach song (the gods of Detroit hard core and punk, if you haven't heard them go buy their CD "Total Recall" right NOW! It has everything they ever did on it. SCSHC!) Dempz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 95 11:31:28 PST From: Robert Flemming Subject: Re: apologies to Robert >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 13:27:03 -0500 >From: bloodboy >Subject: apologies to Robert > >My apologies for not giving you and Rick credit for the tab. I didn't mean >that they were easy to figure out; I meant that they were physically easy >to play once you have the tab. And perhaps that was a generalization; >some are harder to play than others, as well. I really do appreciate all >the time you and Rick put in on the tab. It is certainly an impressive >accomplishment and I'm being sincere when I say that. Don't strain your brain trying to think of a way to vindicate what you said. I was only goofing when I asked for credit. I really don't care, where you learned how to play them. Just play them, and play them loud. But I was serious about that Hellhound thing. Oh yeah, I corrected some of my typos a few weeks ago, so all of you who have an older copy of the chords, there is a revised version at the WWW page. Happy power chording... =) /| __ ___ ___ __ |\ ******************************| -- -^ \_/ ^- -- |****************** * morrigu@uclink.berkeley.edu \ ---_ _--- / * * & ----^\| _>_<_ |/^---- Robert Flemming * * rflemmin@ced.berkeley.edu / --- / \ --- \ * ************************************\__/| -^- |\__/************************ \ MMM / ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 16:04:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #58 in #58 Gabriel Palczewski Wrote: > First off I think Glenn kinda progressed in a way. Samhain was >close to Misfits and slowly Samhain became what Danzig is. I think Glenn >found punk a tad too limiting which in a way it can be with someone with >his ideas. > First punk uses fast guitars and lots of fast shouting and such. >Most punk bands arn't looking for lead singers who can sing harmonies or >apreciate Glenn's voice. He probably found it easier to use his voice for >what its best at. Blues based metal. Gabriel, I tend to disagree with you in part. You say punk uses fast guitars fast shouting etc... You must remember that punk evolved into that. The first punk bands on the scene in '77 didn't sound like that at all; ie:Pistols, Buzzcocks, Damned, Ramones..among others. These bands were downright melodic and the vocals were actually sung not belch ed into a microphone. As a matter of fact "Orgasm Addict" by the Buzzcocks and "Blietzkreig Bop" by the Ramones are about as close as you can get to pop and still be called punk. The hardcore style that you are refering to came a few years later. If I remember a conversation I had w/ Jerry about a year ago correctly, It was Glenn that streered the band in that direction. Not that it was a bad choice or anything but like anything else the band evolved into what was more popular at the time. As far as Glenn's voice being more suited to Blues Based Metal I have to disagree whole heartedly. Glenn is a very talented person his voice can be adapted to anything. I tend to think that everyone thinks that glenn sounds better today for the wrong reason. I don't think it's the style of music he's singing, but more the maturation of his voice in general ie: He finally grew into it! In my opinion Glenn has never sounded better than when he sang "Hollywood Babylon" That sound is a veritable showcase for his voice. As a matter of fact he could probably do justice to just about anything.. How 'bout Glenn singing "You are my Sunshine" Solo Acapella............just a thought btw: robert flemming hit the nail on the head with "Hollwood Babylon" The only thing I have to add is thus: it's very important when playing ANY misfits song to tune your guitar/bass down a 1/2 step E=E flat then it will be easier to figure out. Hollwood babylon is really easy to figure out Jerry taught it to me in 5 mins. tune down a 1/2 and turn up the overdrive crank the bass and cut the mids. Play as loud as you possibly can.. Use the first two fingers of your right hand to actually slap the e string : E E G G -- E E G G etc.... the part where glenn sings Wood goes to A you'll get it it's a peice of cake! +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 16:12:34 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: More Wee! To: Robert Yeah I am starting to get it now slowly. I think it would have been easier if instead of the chords you put it in better TAB format since I dont know alot of chords by heart. But oh well.. I'll have to get off my lazy ass and do it myself :) Also where can I write to get KRYST THE CONQUEOR on cd? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 16:39:36 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Tab Gab Hello- Well, I sent out a letter similar to this one for the last issue, but I guess my server really jacked it up. Anyways, in that letter I gave Robert Flemming "credit where credit was due etc..." But I do have one suggestion for you, Robert. Now-I had no problem whatsoever following your transcriptions at all, but a lot of the people who I showed your tabs to were totally lost. Basically, they didn't know their chords or just weren't used to seeing them in your format. My suggestion is this - take all of the wonderful work you have done and go a step further by converting it to the six-line, number-indicating-fret style of tabbing. I *KNOW* that this is a pain in the ass, but virtually all guitar magazines and all other tab sites do it in this fashion. It makes it easier for younger kids and novice musicians to follow along and play the songs correctly. Do you know what I mean by this?? I put an example in the last letter, but who knows where that is now. If you need me to elaborate, I can. I just think that converting your tabs to the "universal" style would be well worth the effort. Think of all the little kids ripping it up to "Die, Die.....!!!!" Well, OF COURSE I wouldn't make this suggestion without offering help!! If you choose to make the switch and need help pecking away at the computer or ANYTHING, I'm sure myself and the rest of the guitarists on the list wouldn't mind a bit helping in any way possible. Am I right? So give it some thought and let us know if you want to undertake this bitch of a task. I can understand if you don't. Once again, thanks for putting so much time into figuring out EVERY song!! I don't think I can commend you enough on the effort. -Brent E. P.S.- Anyone who can help might want to send a PERSONAL e-mail to Robert letting him know that you can. Thanks again everyone. ------------------------------ From: MikeMoll@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 16:49:50 -0500 Subject: why be something your not The Misfits preformed on the show on 1-6-83 and it took place at the Dearborn Community Center at Dearborn, Michigan. It was the first show of their last tour to promote Earth,A.D. I desperatly need a copy of the Hatebreeders "12, Beyond evil. and Beware and the Rest.I don't care if they are taped versions either.I have a copy of Beware signed by Mr. Jim,it's cool. Any info, contact me at MikeMoll@aol.com Rat Fink ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 95 19:35:57 EST From: "\\A corpse" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #50 Okay it's been a while and well that's life I really didn't have anything to say on the bible since most of the lettres delt with the fact that most people are hating the currant punk rock revival since that whole 'Grunge' scene died. A couple of people have been talking about the Earth A.D./Wolfsblood/Die Die My Darling Gold C.D. and I have to say that when I got mine it was in the oddest place a little record shop in Kearny N.J. called St. Marks Place. It was in the used section for twenty dollars needless to say I had a very Nice Channuka this winter. EVB - I wanted to say that I will try to go to Jerry's B-Day party since I live in Newark and Secaucus is only a short drive away. If it is possible could you E-Mail me some info on time and date. (You Wrote the 25th of April?) I Got a little info about Plan 9 when I was trying to find the Earth A.D. Gold C.D. in Sounds on the Real St. Marks Place in NYC. On the walls there are two real old Misfits posters. One is for 'Three Hits From Hell' and the other is from WAU. I talked to the owner to ask if he would be willing to sell the posters, but he said he wouldn't. He then told me about having to deal with Glenn from a business prospective. 1) Glenn is very cheap 2) This is noted by Plan 9 3) Plan 9 uses a company that makes C.D. covers for kids C.D.'s and Tapes since they normally don't do liner notes. (Even though any fiend wants more LINER NOTES) Anyway I just wanted to add that my band does a few Misfits Covers We add a few theatrics for stage value Fake Blood etc. etc. Devils Whorehouse and Ghouls Night Out are my favourites to sing but Mommy and Last Caress get the most request TO DRINK BLOOD TO EAT FLESH THAT'S MY DESTINY ------------------------------ From: dorin@mailbox.mcs.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:18:28 Subject: my founding of the Misfits My time reading back issues and on the web page I learned a lot about the Misfits...which I appreciate, so Thanks for that. I first heard Danzig before Misfits (i heard Samhain last..Initium, which is my fav of Samhain) and at first i didn't like the Misfits(i had Legacy first) but being so DAMN catchy...it grew on me. Now here I am having Misfits as my fav band, above Danzig, which I started with... and this supports the theory that people who listen to Danzig and Misfits like Misfits more! I hear all this about new shows w/Danzig and M.Manson...is this still part of the 4p tour? will it come to Chicagoif it's not? I saw Danzig with Metallica...and the Highlight of that was when they played London Dungeon, Green Hell, and Last Caress with Metallica.. I would have prefferred it to be without Metallica since Hetfield started to drown out Glenn...but it was cool none the less.. I also saw Danzig on tour with Type O Negative and Godflesh. I t was a good show, but what pisses me is how all the MTV assholes cheer wildly when they played Mother. And Daniel..if yer such a Misfits FREAK, how come yer favorite Misfits song is the Metallica version??? BTW..I had a Misfits cover band, The Fiends, and we played one show.. we didn't get much of a reaction from the audience but I say fuck em' cause the Misfits RULE!! thank you everyone, Greg p.s. Is it cool to have a Misfits type name on here? ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: Re: Danzine.... Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:51:07 MEZ > > Hi > > I`m interested in the address of Danzine. Especially in the dutch adds. (I > live in Holland). > By the way, last week I also found the Last Gasp 7" . It`s pretty cool indeed. > > greetinx > > Wolverine-j. > the address is: moritz gottwald mariborerstr.2 d-35037 marburg germany send an irc for more info, i don't know how much it is. or send enough $$$ for zine & postage, esp. postage is kind of expensive to the usa. and say hi from me. cheers flex ------------------------------ From: Ralph Herbert Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 12:25:29 +0100 Subject: German Earth AD/Wolfsblood cd There IS a German Earth AD/Wolfsblood cd. It was released by Aggressive Rockproduktionen in late '91 (if I remember this correctly). The cd contains the German Earth AD/Wolfsblood lp (incl. Die Die My Darling and We Bite) + the German Evilive 12". The front cover is Wolfsblood with "featuring GLENN DANZIG" printed below the Misfits logo and "including EVILIVE" in the lower left corner. I have no idea how many of these were made, but since I've seen it in stores only twice, I guess it really is rare (in contrast to the 12"s). ralph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 22:28:29 -0500 From: EVB Subject: New packaging for danzig 4p Just got a copy of the new revised packaging of the latest Danzig CD - remember how we'd heard that they were having problems stocking it in the stores because the size wasn't quite the same & some stores wouldn't carry it in their racks? Well, they've relented & changed the packaging - now it;s in a cardboard digipack with the CD snapped into a plastic container inside teh cardboard. It still has the lyric insert with the photo of them in the coffins in it. It's also got a sticker attached to the cover that says "Danzig 4p NEW FULL LENGTH DANZIG CD Featuring: "Cantspeak", "Going Down to Die" and "I Don't Mind the Pain" 9 43003-2 (dif catalog # on both th cover & the CD). Also on the back cover they've added American Recording's World Wide Web address & e-mail addy. I'd I'd just revised & reposted the newsgroup FAQ - sigh, my work will never be done! It'll be in the next update, tho! Again sorry about the Earth AD CD goof - saw from the last bible that everybody noticed my faux pas. sigh, guess us ol' farts get senile sometimes... And Jim, since you're back now - congrads! (Instead ofs ending it thru your bro) flex -please post the addy of the "danzine"! Gotta run for now.. too much to do! catch ya next time! - EVB ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 60 Tuesday, February 28th 1995 Today's Topics: comments Re: child in heat's comments PL9-01? Stuffy Stuff just some questions... Misfits Reborn *FLASH* TOUR DATES!! German Danzine Big News! power chords explained DATES! Guitar Stuff... Misfits Bible ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: comments Date: Thu, 23 Feb 95 11:51:25 EST Chuck Plater, what does this mean, anyway? > CS/MU -d+ H++ s+:+ g- p? au a- w++ v* C++++ US++ P? L 3 E--- N+++ K- W-- > M++ V po-- T+ t+++ !5 j- R G? tv+ b++ D+ B-- e+ u+ h!* f r n---- > y+ Gabriel Palczewski > > Also where can I write to get KRYST THE CONQUEOR on cd? You can't. Try the Misfits P.O. Box. That'll probably fail too. They had many copies of the EP there a few years ago, and have apparently now run out. Maybe Jerry will be nice and send you one of his copies... MikeMoll@aol.com > > The Misfits preformed on the show on 1-6-83 and it took place at the Dearborn > Community Center at Dearborn, Michigan. It was the first show of their last > tour to promote Earth,A.D. I desperatly need a copy of the Hatebreeders "12, Hey Mike, where did you get this info? Do they mention that it's the first show in the video? I don't remember. Also, Where'd you get the date. I have a flyer for a show at the Henry Ford Community Center on the 7th, not the 6th. But, I'm not sure that the video is taken from that particular date. Mark ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 12:48:56 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: Re: child in heat's comments Umm....if I didn't know -child in heat- was straight-edge, I'd say he was smoking crack. Just you wait until next time we play, you'll get yours. bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:56:45 -0800 (PST) From: Scheckey the Jackal Subject: PL9-01? Hi. My roommate has a "Noteworthy Music" mail order catalog and I was browsing through it when I came across some Misfits stuff. They only had two titles, "Legacy" and something called "Collection". I thought at first that it might be the Plan 9 Green skull thing, but then I looked at the number it said PL9-01. I looked at all my Misfits stuff and none of them had this number. If anyone knows what this is and could post the songs on it I'd really appreciate it. It sells for $13.75, is it worth it? Thanks a heap Chris ------------------------------ From: Richard_Arredondo@baylor.edu Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 14:56:02 +0000 Hey, I'm a little behind with the bible but so what. In past issues someone mentioned that they saw a Misfits poster on Saved By The Bell, I saw that same episode and tripped out!! Also, did anyone see Donahue with Marilyn Manson on it? My roommate told me the show was about slam dancing and featured MM clips and some "old school" punks. My roommate said the punks were talking about the old days when they slammed at Minor Threat shows and stuff like that. I forgot to ask him if they mentioned the Misfits on the show or not. As for this Why be something yer not? video, I recommend that any Misfits freak( such as anyone involved with the bible) view this recording. It's a bit screwed but what the hell, it's the Misfits right? Lastly, someone mentioned a Faust video? That sounds pretty cool. I'd like to see.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 17:15:43 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Stuffy Stuff To Mark: I live in shit city for that stuff. I have looked everywhere for anything on tape and have come up empty handed. I only know 4 stores in town that have Misfits CD's but tapes are impossible except maybe WALK AMONG US. Also I think this Monday - Thursday Bible should be changed I was thinking that a Sunday, Monday, Thursday would be better because too much mail starts ending up in some of these things. Just a thought. ------------------------------ From: dorin@mailbox.mcs.com Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 21:44:57 Subject: just some questions... I was just wonderin' where the Crimson Ghost originated.. is it from some horror movie or is it Glenn's face painted? Is "The Misfits" a good movie? Is "Plan 9 from Outer Space" good? And what is it with Glenn and Marilyn Monroe? that's all I can think of fer now-- --Greg ------------------------------ From: bukowsk768@aol.com (Bukowsk768) Newsgroups: alt.punk Subject: Misfits Reborn Date: 22 Feb 1995 03:09:20 -0500 I just got a postcard from the Misfits this Saturday. I thought it was a hoax or something when I first saw it. I can't believe they're going to return, without Glenn. Wasn't Kryst the Conqueror successful enough for them. Anyways the postcard said that they are returning to the stage in 95. Glenn Danzig is no longer singing for the band. Both Glenn and the Misfits will be sellin Misfits merchandise(which I thought was odd since I thought he didn't even want to talk about the band.) and that they are accepting audition tapes for a drummer and vocalist. Anyone else get this or hear anything about it? Just curious. Buk. . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:39:43 -0500 From: EVB Subject: *FLASH* TOUR DATES!! EV finally changed the message again so here are tentative tour dates for the next tour. Remember, theseare subject to change so consult local listings before you go galavanting off... (Most venues are not listed yet, hell in Colorado he only listed the state. can we narrow it down a little?) March 24 - San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theater March 25 - Los Angeles, CA - Universal Amphitheater, Universal Studios March 26 - San Diego, CA March 28 - Las Vegas, NV March 30 - Colorado April 1 - Albuquerque, NM April 2 - El Paso, TX April 4 - Austin, TX April 5 - Corpus Christi, TX April 7 - St Louis, MO April 8 - Kansas City, MO April 10 - Omaha, NE April 13 - Fargo, ND April 14 - St Paul, MN April 15 - Davenport, IA April 18 - Peoria, IL April 19 - Kalamazoo, MI April 21 - Detroit, MI April 22 - Louisville, KY April 23 - Akron, OH April 26 - Long Branch, NJ (there will be another NJ/NY show added in that week) April 30 - Pittsburgh, PA May 5 - Charlotte, NC May 6 - Birmingham, AL May 7 - Panama City, FL May 9 - Myrtle Beach, SC May 10 - Jacksonville, FL May 12 - Tampa, FL May 13 - Miami, FL May 14 - Orlando, FL >From there they'll be going to Europe for about a month of festivals, tarting in Berlin May 29th - no other dates available right now.. gee, I guess I'm looking at a nice week's vacation in Florida (at the very least!) Excuse me while I go dance around the room a bit... - EVB ------------------------------ From: pbright@ibm.net Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:06:40 Subject: German Danzine Hey Flex -- I think you said that parts of that German Danzig zine were in German...if you need any help with understanding it, my better half can translate it for you. She's only second-gen American and had German (well, and Yiddish)- speaking grandparents. Just let me know. PJ ------------------------------ From: MikeMoll@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 19:42:05 -0500 Subject: Big News! Since I am relitivly new here, I guess I shouldn't be using the title Big News but this is so listen. I told a friend about the ad for the new misfits singer on the www, and he sent Jerry and Doyle a tape of his voice. They liked it so much, they called him and are giving him a tryout today (saturday) at their family knife factory in Vernon,NJ. He said that he talked to Jerry doyle, and their brother Kenny. I know you guys aren't to hip on the Glennless Misfits but it's different for me because being only 15 years old I have never seen the Misfits live and I was the one who gave him the address and I feel kind of responsible. I will probobly be getting a copy of his demos, so anyone who wants a copy e-mail me at: mikemoll@aol.com thanx- Rat Fink ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:30:16 -0500 From: chris vomit Subject: power chords explained The following explanation of power chords may help any new guitar players trying to play MISFITS songs (or any punk/hardcore songs). I don't know how to add this text to the tab section in the MISFITS book, but if anyone wants to, feel free to copy it whereever. The frets below are not proportionally spaced, but the note order is correct FOR THE TOP (thickest) E-string. All the MISFITS songs I've played so far can be played with E-shaped power chords - just follow the finger placement described below. NOTES ON THE TOP E-STRING: open F E D C B A G F E ...______________________________________________________ o o o | | | | | | | | | | | | | |========= ...------------------------------------------------------ o o o FINGER PLACEMENT FOR E_SHAPED POWER CHORDS: tuning end---> S top E ...._______________________________o______________________ T A ....____|_______|___o__|______|_______|_______|_______|___ R D ....____|_______|___o__|______|_______|_______|_______|___ I G ....____|_______|______|___o__|_______|_______|_______|___ N B ....____|_______|______|______|____o__|_______|_______|___ G E ....____|_______|______|______|____o__|_______|_______|___ Ok, the top string determines which chord you're playing. For example, to play a G chord, your index finger is on the 3rd fret, top E string. Your ring finger is on the 5th fret, A-string (side note: you really can get away with JUST the top 2 strings for power chords if your distortion is thick enough AND you mute the rest of the strings or don't hit them, but if you can do the fingering, you may as well do it right). Pinky finger is 5th fret, D-string. Middle finger is 4th fret, G-string. Ha, did I forget to mention that your index finger should be laying flat across that 3rd fret such that it not only holds down the top string, but also the bottom two? You'll at least want to mute these last 2 strings. If you play as fast as I wish everyone did, you won't have time to even stroke those last two strings. Hell, when we play HOLY SNAPPERS and MOMMY...(I play with bloodboy) I think I only have time to hit the top two strings. Now that you are holding this G chord, slide all your fingers 2 frets toward the tuning-knob end. Now you've got an F chord. Go one more fret and you've got an E chord (don't even need the index finger for this one - the E,B,E strings are left open). It's that easy! Just hold your fingers in place and slide them around to the different chords (see top drawing). Now keep doing it faster and faster (virgin olive oil on your strings helps) and you're ready to look up the tab (thanx to the folx who put it together - finally someone who tabs the same way I do). I think most of the MISFITS songs should be played with all downstrokes, but I admit that I am biased in this respect for most music. Anyway, enjoy playing. (yes, you can now also play any RAMONES song, early BLACK FLAG, etc.) Oh, for that chunka sound that emerges on Earth AD, try resting your picking hand/palm against all the strings way down at the end while you stroke the strings. And PLEASE don't make up your own guitar solos for MISFITS songs....the chords are just perfect. ...............chris vomit. ------------------------------ From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:41:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: DATES! The perspective dates are on the hotline! March through april. I will probably see them in Pittsburg, or Akron Oh. Cool!! Sean M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 16:48:47 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Flemming Subject: Guitar Stuff... Sheesh...and to think I thought I was doing people a favor when I gave Mark all that guitar stuff. Silly me for thinking that even a "moderately good" guitar player would now what a G# power chord looks like. =} Come on guys...it's not like a handed you the TAB to some Yngwie tune and told you to sight read it. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'm doing this out of my own desire to have a nice Misfits songbook. I'm taking all the lyrics and merging them with the guitar in a type of Chord Reference Diagram. I'll include the various voicings for those of you who can't hear the difference between an E5 power chord and a standard E. The whole idea was for you to listen along and figure them out, Those chords were never meant to stand on their own. This is going to take me quite a while to do though. It is VERY time consuming (something I don't have much of). Be patient, and I'll get around to it. Once they are done, I'll give them to Mark for the WWW page and I'll post them it the 2 guitar newsgroups: Alt.guitar.tab and Rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature and I'll archive them at the guitar FTP site ftp.nevada.edu Take this time to sit down a practice, instead of perfecting your "Billie Joe drooling technique." =) Bye for now I need to get busy... --Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:19:51 -0600 (CST) From: Linda S Rogers Subject: Misfits Bible I've been into The Misfits for many years now. I am a fan of Danzig and Samhain as well, but I must say The Misfits were Glenn's greatest legacy. I'm in a band that plays 'She' and 'Last Caress' regularly. I hope to add a few more Misfits tunes to our list of covers. I must say that when I found The Misfits lyrics and the chords for their songs on the Internet, I was very excited indeed. Isn't it amazing how simple, yet powerful these songs are? I only wish I could have seen The Misfits play live. You don't know how envious I was when I heard that Danzig/Metallica did some Misfits tunes last year. I'd love to get my hands on some video of them as well... Up here, though, such things are nonexistent. Does anyone know of where I could order such a video for a reasonable price? Also, I can't seem to find Earth AD up here anymore. A Fiend Forever, Robert A. Rogers "They call us walking corpes..." -The Misfits "World leaders want to keep us as black and white, 'cause if we knew the truth we'd all unite!" -The Phreeks ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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