Misfits Bible, Number 61 Thursday, March 2nd 1995 Today's Topics: bootleg help Re: Misfits Bible, #60 stuff re: Bible questions PL9-CD1/New Misfits collection Various Stuff Misfits minus Danzig Glen's Voice mystery 7" answerin all yer questions PL9-01? Stuffy Stuff just some questions... DATES! sorry, one more and then I'll shut up the last bible ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:57:58 -0500 From: Andrew Lieberman Share Subject: bootleg help I got a copy of the misfits last show and it is an awful copy. Barely audible. does anyone know where I can get a decent sounding tape of the show? Andrew Share st930419@pip.cc.brandeis.edu %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % "And though it rots, it's all we got % % Which isn't much...Pirate's Cove Sucks!" % % -The Ag's % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #60 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 15:13:17 EST Scheckey the Jackal > > two titles, "Legacy" and something called "Collection". I thought at > first that it might be the Plan 9 Green skull thing, but then I looked at > the number it said PL9-01. I looked at all my Misfits stuff and none of > them had this number. If anyone knows what this is and could post the > songs on it I'd really appreciate it. It sells for $13.75, is it worth it? It IS the collection. The CD numbering system for Plan 9 stuff is different than the LP numbering system (in 2 cases only) The "best of" or "collection" or "Misfits" album is PL9-CD1 and that's what you're seeing. Gabriel Palczewski > > To Mark: I live in shit city for that stuff. I have looked > everywhere for anything on tape and have come up empty handed. I only > know 4 stores in town that have Misfits CD's but tapes are impossible > except maybe WALK AMONG US. Hmm, that sucks. Didn't realize that. I guess I forget that some people on this mailing list aren't from the East Coast. > > Also I think this Monday - Thursday Bible should be changed I was > thinking that a Sunday, Monday, Thursday would be better because too much > mail starts ending up in some of these things. Just a thought. Well, finally somebody has an opinion about this. I asked about a million times and nobody ever responded. Personally, I think they way it is now (Tuesday, Thursday) is the best way to do it. The issues are pretty consistent in size and come out (obviously) consistently. I try to distance the issues from the weekends because most of the people on the mailing list don't do email over th weekends - probably because it's their time off, whether they're working or at school. Very little mail comes into the mailbox on weekends and that's why the Friday issue was moved to Thursday. dorin@mailbox.mcs.com > > I was just wonderin' where the Crimson Ghost originated.. > is it from some horror movie or is it Glenn's face painted? This is why we need a FAQ. The Crimson Ghost originated in the 1946 TV series title "The crimson Ghost". It's really silly science fiction and can be rented at almost any video store. There's also a shortened movie single video version of the series, which originally ran for 12 episodes. > Is "The Misfits" a good movie? Must be if Glenn likes it right? Yeah right.... > Is "Plan 9 from Outer Space" good? > Bad, bad, bad. Rent it for historical reasons and then you can say you've seen it. > And what is it with Glenn and Marilyn Monroe? His idle or fascination or something. Seems like he loved the 50's. From: bukowsk768@aol.com (Bukowsk768) > > I just got a postcard from the Misfits this Saturday. I thought it was a > hoax or something when I first saw it. I can't believe they're going to > return, without Glenn. Wasn't Kryst the Conqueror successful enough for > them. Anyways the postcard said that they are returning to the stage in > 95. Glenn Danzig is no longer singing for the band. Both Glenn and the > Misfits will be sellin Misfits merchandise(which I thought was odd since I > thought he didn't even want to talk about the band.) and that they are > accepting audition tapes for a drummer and vocalist. Anyone else get this > or hear anything about it? Just curious. That's right. Anyone who sent their postal mailing address to CG when he posted about a million times should have gotten this postcard. If anyone out there didn't get the hints over the last 6 months or so, it should be obvious now. The Misfits are still together. > MikeMoll@aol.com > > I told a friend about the ad for the new misfits singer on the www, and he > sent Jerry and Doyle a tape of his voice. They liked it so much, they called > him and are giving him a tryout today (saturday) at their family knife > factory in Vernon,NJ. He said that he talked to Jerry doyle, and their > brother Kenny. I know you guys aren't to hip on the Glennless Misfits but > it's different for me because being only 15 years old I have never seen the > Misfits live and I was the one who gave him the address and I feel kind of > responsible. That's really cool. A friend of mine (and EVB's) auditioned and has since become good buddies with Jerry and the Caiafa family. Those guys are serious so if you think you can sing, let them know... okay.. well thanks for the tour dates EVB, see you all next week... mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:18:41 -0300 From: Michael Joseph McCusty Subject: stuff hi, this is my first post... in response to "why be something your not" [sic] i think this was actually the second show of the tour...my friend has my copy, which includes the "braineaters" video and 2 other shows, one in mass. where they cover "rise above". anywho, i remember glenn saying they had played akron the nite before. i'm pretty sure of this. secondly, i have a boot cd which isn't very good called "heros of danzig". it says it was recorded in 92, i think. maybe 90 or 91. they sound not very together, even for the misfits. my question: was this a reunion tour? someone called the misfits played in ft wayne, indiana within a coupla months of that recording, and i just wondered... lastly, "plan 9 from outer space" was rad, tnt shows it sometimes, check it out. "the crimson ghost" was a serial either on tv or, more likely, shown before old movies, like "flash gordon" was. i saw a video compilation of it at suncoast, at the maul. and, i heard the only cool thing about the film "the misfits" was its name. love, luck, and lollipops, mike ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:25:50 -0500 Subject: re: Bible questions Greg (aka) dorin...As far as where the Crimson Gohst came from there was an old TV series called the Crimson ghost which had some guy in a red Cape and a cheesy mask. He seemed to be a kind of superhero. As far as the mask it looks exactly like the misfits crimson skull. If you have a Suncoast Pictures near you check for it there, I just happened to see it one day and there were about 5 different tapes. Good Luck. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:29:29 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: PL9-CD1/New Misfits First PL9-CD1 is the 20 song self titled Misfits cd. It has a buncha tracks from their singles and albums and such. Pretty cool. Most Misfits songs on 1 cd. Also about the new Misfits.. I suppose I don't mind a new Misfits I am just going to keep an open mind on them and not judge them until I hear it first. I am trying to get my friend to send them a tape but he is sucha shy fool. Oh well. They are obviously going to mainly lack the writing and vocal power that Glenn gave but they have 2 original members. It would be cool if they could get along with one of the old drummers and have him join up but oh well. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 19:06:42 -0600 (CST) From: Deana Greenfield Subject: collection Hey Scheckey the misfits album you saw is just a collection of 20 Misfits' songs including some previously unreleased versions of songs.... here's the song list.... She, Hollywood Babylon, Bullet, Horror Business, Teenagers From Mars, Night of the Living Dead, Where Eagles Dare, Vampira, I Turned Into A Martian, Skulls, London Dungeon, Ghouls Night Out, Astro Zombies, Mommy Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?, Die, Die My Darling, Earth A.D, Devilock, Death Comes Ripping, Green Hell, Wolfblood as for being worth it....i believe any Misfits album is worth it.... I liked it... Deana ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 22:05:15 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Various Stuff Okay, here's a couple of responses to a few folks (I have a sinking feeling a bunch of others are gonna respond to the same stuff, so nevermind if you see the info over and over again...) To dorin@mailbox.msc.com (Greg): The Crimson Ghost (skull face) is from a bad horror serial from a long while back (good ol' black and white) The archfiend is a Scientist-Gone-Bad who uses a garage door opener to crash jet planes until the good guy and his dog, Timmy, take him out. Sounds corny? it is... but it's funny to see the CG running around (and eventually trip on a stump with Timmy in hot pursuit). Rent it with Plan 9 from Outer Space and enjoy the cheeze... Sheckey the Jackal: Collections... Well, I have the Discography ("green skull face" album ((Crimson Ghost, see above)) in my hot little hands and it says PL9-CD1, Distributed by Caroline Records, Inc. 114 West 26th street, New York, N.Y. 1001. I'm not sure if it has always been this. However, the Plan 9 numbers and the order of release are not synonymous... I think Samhain: Initium has a really low number, and Legacy of Brutality is like PL9-CD6. On to your other questions, 14 bucks for it is an okay price. No matter where I went (Best Buy even!) it wasn't a cheap-o. snook@umich.edu (Eric) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 22:58:08 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Hey EVB, Tour Dates??? Where are the Boston Area shows. Tell Glenn he better add some soon!!! Im not kidding, its all we live for up here. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 23:55:48 -0500 (EST) From: Unholy Living Dead Subject: Misfits minus Danzig Okay, I know a lot of people are down on the thought of The Misfits continuing on with a new singer, and to an extent, I can relate. The vocals make the songs for me, especially when it comes to The Misfits. But. Black Flag went through many singers. Did their "sound" change? Did the quality of their music change? No, no really. Sure, when Rollins was with the band, they sounded far different on some songs then when other singers were singing. Big deal. The songs were still good. I'm betting the same thing will happen with The Misfits. Hell, if I could find some people to back me up, I'd throw a tape together and send it to them. I think it'd be great fun to perform as a member of the band. Now, I've been away for a few weeks, so to return to a couple old bits addressed to or near me, forgive me if I forget something, I'm doing this all from memory with a fever. Heh. On Marilyn Manson, the best part of the show up here, for me, was definately when they covered the Eurythmics. That was incredible. I also liked Monster Voodoo Machine. They were honest, and trying to make sure everyone had fun. That was nice. On King DIamond/Merciful Fate (or whatever) yes, I've heard OF them. No, I've never heard them. And am I the only one out here that thinks Glenn would look good with a shaved head? Heh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 16:20:12 -0500 (EST) From: Alexandra Gerber Subject: Glen's Voice I'm not going to try to include the text here, because this digest thing is too damned unwieldy. Here goes- Danizig may very well have "grown into" his voice- but he's writing shit music. HIs voice, IMHO, was at the top of its game perhaps in Hollywood Babylon, but *definitely* in Last Caress. Angelfuck wasn't half bad either. I'm assuming everyone heard him sing Less Than Zero on the soundtrack- he could have stuck with that style, rather than let himself degenerate into the trash vocalist he has become on Danzig III and IV. Not to mention the whole cheesy sell-out thingL what's up with that Angel of the 7th Dawn club, and the "What Would You Do For Danzig" contest they had right after the release of Lucifuge. I was on the mailing list for a while, and let me tell you, all I got were newsletters telling me to cal MTV and my local radio stations to request his songs as much as I possibly could. Lame. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 16:25:28 -0500 (EST) From: Alexandra Gerber Subject: mystery 7" I bought this 7" a couple of years ago, and promptly lost the cover. It's got Teenagers From Mars and Children In Heat b/w Horror Business. Does anyone a)no what the 7' was titled, and b)when it was released. I'd like to make a new cover for it. thanks, Alex ------------------------------ From: LUCIFER18@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 16:30:33 -0500 Subject: answerin all yer questions to:Scheckey the Jackal Subject: PL9-01? >something called "Collection". I thought at >first that it might be the Plan 9 Green skull thing, but then I looked >at >the number it said PL9-01. I looked at all my Misfits stuff and none >of >them had this number. If anyone knows what this is and could post >the >songs on it I'd really appreciate it. PL9-01 is yer "green skull thing". some catalogs have it as "Collection" just to confuse idiots like you. to Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Stuffy Stuff >I think this Monday - Thursday Bible should be changed I was >thinking that a Sunday, Monday, Thursday would be better because >too much >mail starts ending up in some of these things. Just a thought. heres a tip for ya-dont think. it hurts my ears to dorin@mailbox.mcs.com Subject: just some questions... >I was just wonderin' where the Crimson Ghost originated.. >is it from some horror movie or is it Glenn's face painted? th' Crimson Ghost is an old sereal (spelled wrong, but that dont matter since most of you cant read) and the worlds most diabolical criminal mastermind > Is "The Misfits" a good movie? yes >Is "Plan 9 from Outer Space" good? NO! it sucks. just look on the box-"The worst movie ever made". that should tell you something, geek to WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Subject: DATES! >The perspective dates are on the hotline! March through april. I will >probably see them in Pittsburg, or Akron Oh. Cool!! Too late, sweet cheeks. Liz already posted them. And i dont care if your going to see them in Pittsberg or Akron. Any more stupid questions or comments? Lucifer Morningstar, King of Babylon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 16:34:58 -0500 (EST) From: Alexandra Gerber Subject: sorry, one more and then I'll shut up Does anyone have a copy of the Static Age Demo- or know where I could get a copy? thanks, Alex ------------------------------ From: WARRIOR138@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 16:34:39 -0500 Subject: the last bible I noticed a lot of people are talking about Guitar tab and stuff like that for misfits songs, but howzabout some bass tab? i know more than one of us plays bass (me, Crimson Ghost, and probibly a few others), so lets get some up here. Thats about all I have to say. --WARRIOR ------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 95 17:10 PST To: danzig@american.recordings.com From: american@american.recordings.com (American Recordings) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 3, 1995 DANZIG READIES SECOND LEG OF U.S. TOUR _____________________ American Recordings band DANZIG is set to head back out on the road for the second leg of their mammoth U.S. tour. The new series of dates commences March 24 in San Francisco and winds up in Florida on May 14. Opening for DANZIG will be Marilyn Manson and Korn. A few surprises are being planned for the DANZIG show during this second round of dates, but fans can expect the same kind of hyper-imaginative staging and lighting that overwhelmed audiences on the first go-round. DANZIG's latest album, DANZIG 4, was the #1 Most Added at Metal radio when it was released last fall. Since then, the album has been in Billboard's Top 200 for twelve weeks straight, and the band has toured consistently, most recently returning from a whirlwind 5-city promotional visit to Holland, Italy, and Germany. The third and latest single video from Danzig 4, "I Don't Mind The Pain," is currently set for release on March XX. Once the latest U.S. tour wraps up, the band returns to Europe for a summer-full of festival dates and headline gigs. Then, DANZIG returns home for continued U.S. touring through late summer and early fall. Together since 1988, DANZIG consists of charismatic lead singer/songwriter Glenn Danzig, guitarist John Christ, and bassist Eerie Von. New drummer Joey Castillo joined the group last year. MARCH 24 Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA 25 Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles, CA 26 Starlight Bowl, San Diego, CA 28 Huntridge Theatre, Las Vegas, NV 30 Auditorium, Colorado Springs, CO APRIL 1 Convention Center, Albuquerque, NM 2 County Coliseum, El Paso, TX 4 Coliseum, Austin, TX 5 Johnnyland, Corpus Christi, TX 7 American Theatre, St. Louis, MO 8 Memorial Hall, Kansas City, MO 10 Mancuso Hall, Omaha, NB 13 Civic Memorial Auditorium, Fargo, ND APRIL 14 Roy Wilkens Auditorium, St. Paul, MN 15 Palmer Auditorium, Davenport, IA 17 Madison Theatre, Peoria, IL 18 Newport Theatre, Columbus, OH 19 Wings Stadium, Kalamazoo, MI 21 Detroit State Theatre, Detroit, MI 22 Louisville Gardens, Louisville, KY 23 Akron Rhodes Arena, Akron, OH 25 Utica Auditorium, Utica, NY 26 Count Basie Theatre, Red Bank, NJ 28 Sting Ballroom, Hartford, CT 29 Kirby Center, Wilkes Barre, 30 Golden Dome, Pittsburgh, PA MAY 2 Showplace Arena, Washington, DC 5 Ritz Capri, Charlotte, 6 Sloss Furnaces, Birmingham, 7 Spinnaker, Panama City, 9 Headroom, Myrtle Beach, 10 The Edge Ballroom, Jacksonville, FL 12 Expo Center, Tampa, FL 13 Sunrise, Miami, FL 14 Edge Field, Orlando, FL Steve Rogers american@american.recordings.com 8-)= Rogers@csulb.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Amerika The Machine" -Sir Roget B. 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Glenn was the songwriter misfits, the usual When Death Had No Name... related band: KALIDON re: CD first post Danzig 4 metal?!? Danzig promo CD question Continental Crawler EP sales info yeah yeah right some comments on 61... ???? moore BORING Eyeball Beware? last misfits show... 5-city promotional visit??? Continental Crawler EP sales info Bass Tab...? Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 10:52:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: "LUCIFER" AOL jerk What the hell prompted this? I thought at least the mail groups were safe from this crap. I guess I was wrong. Well, anybody who signs his name like that is hungry for attention, I guess. Well here's some of mine. sm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:14:03 -0800 (PST) From: Scheckey the Jackal Subject: Thanks. Thanks for answering my question about PL9-01, everyone who did. I DO own it, but I have it on tape and it's number is PL9-09, I guess that's why I was confused. I'm so sorry for being an "idiot" Lucifer, I guess I'm not as well informed as you are. Anyways, I guess I don't need to order it. I noticed that someone also said that everyone on this list does not live on the East coast. This is true, I live in Oregon now but am from California, and it is very hard to find rare Misfits things outside of big cities. If anyone has a catalog or something like that for record stores on the East coast that carry rare Misfits stuff, I'd appreciate it if you could send me an address or something. Toodles. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 14:41:23 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: SELLOUT!! Since things are kind of lagging as of late (the last issue was pretty much nothing but answering the Collection question and the B-movie questions), I figured I'd throw this at you. What do you all think about when someone uses the word "sellout?" The reason I bring this up is because this is a word that has been slapped on Glenn and Henry(Rollins) by a great number of people. I suppose that Henry's performance last night on the Grammy's made me think about this question. There he was, strutting on stage in a tuxedo, "singing" his MTV hit "Liar." I wanted to say "sellout" as I watched, but I know better than that. Here's why: To me, selling out is all about losing touch with your real fans and paying more attention to money rather than making good music. You then take the money you've made and just SIT on it and do absolutely NOTHING beneficial for others without it. Then you start acting like a completely different person (dressing different, giving interviews differently than before, basically making an ass out of yourself). I guess somewhere in there you start believing all the shit MTV has to say about your sorry "voice of Generation X" ass. By this definition (which is strictly my view), Henry is not a sellout and Glenn is not a sellout. Yes, both men are making MASSIVE amounts of money (off you and me!!). BUT, they are not sitting on top of it and they aren't taking it easy. Both of these men are making it possible (through their money) for other artists to make a comfortable living and perhaps make an impact on the face of a bigger audience. Both men look the same, act the same, and think the same (FOR THE MOST PART) as they did before this new success and wealth. So what exactly are they doing with their money? Well, Henry openly admits that he does the Gap ads and the MTV sports segments and all that garbage for the money. Do you know where the money goes? STRAIGHT TO HIS PUBLISHING COMPANY. Henry takes HIS money and applies it to publishing books and tapes of authors and artists that you will not find on the New York Times Best Sellers, but nonetheless NEED to be heard. People like Don Bajema, Exene Cervenka, etc. - it all comes out of HIS pocket. Henry also takes his money and together with Rick Rubin, spends it on re-recording early-80's punk bands and redistributing the albums, benefiting both the original artists and fans who missed out the first time on the bands. Glenn does similar things with his money. I know that there have been numerous posts about how cheap he is etc....but I think he justs knows where he wants to spend his money and where he doesn't. If you look at some of the back issues, you'll notice how we talked about Verotik, Glenn's new comic company. A lot of people probably see this as yet another way for Glenn to make even more money. This is so far from the truth. Yes, he does make money from this venture, BUT like Henry, he is using it to help out other artists who aren't lucky enough to be in his position - TIM VIGIL in particular. For those unfamiliar, Tim does an independent B&W comic titled Faust that has won him the praise of many underground comic readers. Tim is also in charge of Rebel Studios, a small publisher that puts out Faust and other indies like EO and Gunfighters In Hell. Anyways, some of the stuff Tim does is absolutely phenomenal but because his company is so small, not too many people can enjoy his work. Enter Glenn. EVB told me that Glenn is planning on taking the Faust saga, footing the bill, and printing it in COLOR! This, coupled with Glenn's name, should help Tim and many of the people who have never heard of Faust enjoy something that is truly remarkable. I know most of you would check it out simply because Glenn is linked to it. If you don't believe it, how many of you have watched those B-movies because of Glenn and the Misfits? Anyways, the point is that Glenn and Henry are not sellouts by my definition. I would consider them more as "helpouts" for artists who otherwise would not be heard by the general public. Think about this the next time you want to accuse them of selling out. Yes, sellouts DO exist (what is Green Day doing with their fortune? Pot?), we just need to be more careful who we label as sellouts and who we don't. I apologize to anybody who was bored by this or who thinks that "Henry Rollins has nothing to do with the Misfits." We are 138, motherfucker...... Thanks for reading.....Brent E. ------------------------------ From: DarkLo730@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:40:44 -0500 Subject: Glenn was the songwriter In the misfits and all the bands since, Glenn has been singing as well as writing the music. Although Jerry claims to have written some of the music for the most part Glenn was the talent in the band. mike ------------------------------ From: She Subject: misfits, the usual Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 15:03:52 EST Michael Joseph McCusty > > secondly, i have a boot cd which isn't very good called "heros of danzig". > it says it was recorded in 92, i think. maybe 90 or 91. they sound not > very together, even for the misfits. my question: was this a reunion > tour? someone called the misfits played in ft wayne, indiana within a This show is the 4/8/83 show at P.U.N.X. #4 in Los Angeles, CA. The real Misfits as a full band with a singer have not a played a show since 1983, although there may be other bands with that name. There was one in NY for instance called The Misfits that was around at the same time as our guys... From: Alexandra Gerber > Subject: mystery 7" > > I bought this 7" a couple of years ago, and promptly lost the cover. > It's got Teenagers From Mars and Children In Heat b/w Horror Business. > Does anyone a)no what the 7' was titled, and b)when it was released. I'd > like to make a new cover for it. Is it live or studio? If it's live, it's the Live! 79 The Perfect Crime! 7" was released in the late 1980's and was recorded in the summer of '79 at in Bethlehem, PA. Otherwise, it's probably a boot of the Horror Business 7" single. That's all... mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 09:22:26 -0800 From: "Ricky Hinojos" Subject: When Death Had No Name... When Death Had No Name ~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~ E B G for the verse/intro. A B C D G for that cool part. G E, then C A for the "eden" part. E F G rocks. D C A D F B for the dynamic shift towards the end. A B C D for the end. For the B-side, tune down a half. Or if you have the demo, tune up a half. I think you should be able to figure it out from there, those of you who want the TAB. I mean, the song isn't as difficult as "mother". =) For those of you with requests: All Misfits stuff: standard tuning. (some may appear to up a half-step, but it is because of the recording process) Samhain1: standard tuning. Samhain2(UnholyPassion): standard tuning. Samhain3: standard and half-step down. Samhain4/Danzig0(FinalDescent):standard tuning. Danzig1: standard tuning. Danzig2: standard tuning. Danzig3: standard and half-step down. Thrall/DemonSweatLive: half-step down ("trouble" can be played in standard) Danzig4: half-step down. ("son of the morning star" is in standard) The basic chords for the albums are not tough to figure out. A couple of hours with the first album will have you rocking in no time at all. Just remember that he likes A G E and D. Aged? Isn't that what Glenn is? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ------------------------------ Subject: related band: KALIDON From: ALFREDO CAPPELLO Date: Thu, 02 Mar 95 20:40:00 +0100 Hi All, There in Italy there's a band called KALIDON, they're pretty cool, they've done a 3 tracks demo. They sound like Danzig... the demo costs $8 (if you are in USA +$2 for airmail) let me know if you are interested! bye Alf -+- alfredo.cappello@galactica.it * Q-Blue 1.0 * ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:37:00 -0500 Subject: re: CD I found a misfits cd today called "kill your baby today" it was in the cheap rack and went for 14.00.. it said on the cover that it was recorded live at the Ritz in NY in december 1981...there are 20 tracks and it has the live track of Mommy used on Walk Among Us... the big question is was this a mistake on the part of the store and was it a deal? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:51:13 -0500 (EST) From: andrew r dixon Subject: first post hello everyone, i am the andychrist, and this is my first post. i was looking at the tour dates for that misfits reunion and noticed that there were no dates near baltimore/dc area. are there going to be dates added or what? one more question, where is a good place to look for video tapes of misfit concerts? "when i sin i sin real good when i sin i sin for sure" until next time, - Andychrist ------------------------------ From: dorin@mailbox.mcs.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 17:54:39 Subject: Danzig 4 metal?!? I like the 4p album and all but it's definitely not metal... Thanks for the MANY responses on my questions all of you.. I have one request for the www page...I still haven't heard Misfit's Last Caress. closest I got was when Glenn did it w/Metallica...so anyway..ya think you can put a wav on the page?? Thank you- --Greg ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 19:14:19 -0500 Subject: Danzig promo CD question Hey all, in reference to the Cantspeak promo CD, I remember someone stating that the disc had no sleeve and nothing on it but "American Recordings" Well, I got a copy and it has a picture of the band (w/the new guy) on the cover and clearly states "Danzig Cantspeak". I doubt this is a collecter's item or anything but if you get anything by Danzig you can get your hands on, get it. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 20:12:36 -0600 (CST) From: Belle Wood This is a reply to Alexandra Gerber. The reason that the mailing list was so lame was that it was evidently run by a bunch of shitheads at the time, an allegedly professional company whose main gig was to do fan clubs for bands. Danzig often payed them to do things they did not do; for instance, they payed them twice to send out tour dates. They never did. Many fans complain that the stuff they *were* sending out at the time was a bunch of shit too. Liz said they sent out pencils with the skull on them. I myself paid them twice to join the damn list, and never once heard anything from them. C'est la vie. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 21:31:46 -0500 (EST) From: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: yeah yeah right As usual, replies first: >------------------------------ > >From: LUCIFER18@aol.com >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 16:30:33 -0500 >Subject: answerin all yer questions > >to:Scheckey the Jackal >Subject: PL9-01? > >>something called "Collection". I thought at >>first that it might be the Plan 9 Green skull thing, but then I looked >at >>the number it said PL9-01. I looked at all my Misfits stuff and none >of >>them had this number. If anyone knows what this is and could post >the >>songs on it I'd really appreciate it. > >PL9-01 is yer "green skull thing". some catalogs have it as "Collection" >just to confuse idiots like you. > >to Gabriel Palczewski >>Subject: Stuffy Stuff >> >>I think this Monday - Thursday Bible should be changed I was >>thinking that a Sunday, Monday, Thursday would be better because >too much >>mail starts ending up in some of these things. Just a thought. > >heres a tip for ya-dont think. it hurts my ears > >to dorin@mailbox.mcs.com >Subject: just some questions...>> > >I was just wonderin' where the Crimson Ghost originated.. > >is it from some horror movie or is it Glenn's face painted? > >th' Crimson Ghost is an old sereal (spelled wrong, but that dont matter since >most of you cant read) and the worlds most diabolical criminal mastermind > > Is "The Misfits" a good movie? >yes > >Is "Plan 9 from Outer Space" good? >NO! it sucks. just look on the box-"The worst movie ever made". that should >tell you something, geek> > >to WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu >Subject: DATES! > >>The perspective dates are on the hotline! March through april. I will >>probably see them in Pittsburg, or Akron Oh. Cool!!> > >Too late, sweet cheeks. Liz already posted them. And i dont care if your >going to see them in Pittsberg or Akron. > >Any more stupid questions or comments? > >Lucifer Morningstar, King of Babylon You suck ass. Your post has to be the most worthless drivel I've read in a long long time. First of all, "King of Babylon?" Pfah. Know yer Bible before taking a reference from it. Second, what's with the pseudo-Lobo speech? Figures you come from AOL. Chaod. OK, back to it. >------------------------------ > >From: WARRIOR138@aol.com >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 16:34:39 -0500 >Subject: the last bible > >I noticed a lot of people are talking about Guitar tab and stuff like that > for misfits songs, but howzabout some bass tab? i know more than one of us >plays bass (me, Crimson Ghost, and probibly a few others), so lets get some >up here. Thats about all I have to say. > >--WARRIOR Well geez Jim you went and woke me up one morining to show me how great it was that you learned the bass to "Green Hell," WITHOUT A TAB, why don't you just learn it the same way, _or_ do that and make up the tabs and post 'em? You didn't seem to have trouble w/ "Green Hell" . . . ah well, just a thought.... btw loved the guitar tabs, learning them now :) Other things: THE MISFITS movie: excellent movie. Last film for Marliyn Monroe (take note :), Clark Gable and Arthur MIller. My father certainly thinks it was one of the best films ever made. Came out in 1960. new Danzig tour: waaah!!! Indy's getting dissed this time! Bleah! Looks like I'm gonna miss this time around, since I can't/don't wanna travel out of state to go see 'em....*sigh* maybe next time... all for now --- Geoff We@sel Tune in, turn on, drop dead ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:41:40 +0300 (EET) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: some comments on 61... > Mark wrote : > Hmm, that sucks. Didn't realize that. I guess I forget that some people on > this mailing list aren't from the East Coast. You know what? Some of the people on this list are not even from the States... > The Unholy Living Dead wrote : > > Black Flag went through many singers. Did their "sound" change? > Did the > quality of their music change? No, no really. Sure, when Rollins was with > the band, they sounded far different on some songs then when other singers > were singing. Big deal. The songs were still good. Black Flag is the wrong example, I think. First of all, their sound *did* change a lot after Rollins joined (mainly after Damaged). Ok, with Dez, Chavo or Keith Morris the sound didn't really change but anyway, Black Flag (musically) was always Gregg Ginn (and Chuck Ducowski and then Rollins) > I'm betting the same thing will happen with The Misfits. Hmmm, as far as I know Danzig was writing most (if not all) songs so I'm sure there will be a difference ... and don't forget that Black Flag didn't split up for more than 10 years and then reformed... > > And am I the only one out here that thinks Glenn would look good with a > shaved head? Heh. I don't know if he'll look good but I think he will have one soon whether he likes it or not ;) > From: LUCIFER18@aol.com > > Any more stupid questions or comments? Yea, less attitude! Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### --Please acknowledge email messages as mail system is ### ### unstable (or so I think, anyway...)-- ------------------------------ From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 10:53:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: ???? moore On Al's bar the guys keep refering to "Ar Moore" "R. Moore" or something. Who is thus guy, and why did nobody like him. They keep talking about him. Is this the owner? ("Al Moore???") I always wanted to know. Anybody know? thanks, Sean M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:12:42 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: BORING I'm sorry, but the last few Bibles have been boring as shit! People ask the same damn questions and then everyone else answers them in the next issue. And all this shit about Danzig tour dates - how many times do they have to be posted? If everyone just read each Bible carefully, lots of this shit would not have to be repeated. It was more interesting when everyone was insulting each other! And about bass tab: Robert's tab on the home page shows the notes; what more do you need? And if you don't know the notes, it would be worthwhile to learn them; it's not too tough. By the way, I'm giving free spelling and grammar lessons for everyone who obviously needs it. Misspelled words and bad sentence structure really make you look ignorant and, therefore, lessen the strength of your argument. Looking forward to more insightful comments in the next issue, bloodboy ------------------------------ From: Misfits15@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 16:01:43 -0500 Subject: Eyeball I have the t-shirt with the dead guy holding up his eyeball(well, that's not important), and on the back cover of Metallica's "Master of Puppet's" CD, they are sitting on a couch, and on the chair next to them there is an LP with that eyeball picture on the cover as well as 3 pictures of the Misfits down the side. Could someone please tell me what Misfits record this is? Thanx -Ryan ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:39:14 -0500 Subject: Beware? Okay, is this CD "The Complete Singles 77-82" made in Germany (I assume) on Destroy Fascism Records the same thing as Beware and the Rest? Chris ------------------------------ From: ElSlayer@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 20:11:12 -0500 Subject: last misfits show... can someone explain to me in detail what happened at the last show the misfits did? ive been getting so many different versions that im getting confused... from one place i heard that glenn did the whole show himself, and from another i heard that the drummer from the necros was up on stage with him... whats a boy to believe these days? slayer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:55:57 +0100 From: "Wolverine-j." Subject: 5-city promotional visit??? I read in the last issue that Glenn was in Europe for a 5 city promotional visit. According to the message he even visited Holland. What did he do there? Played a show? I`ve heard nothing of i t. And Holland is very, very small and I usually read the metal and alternative mags. Damn. And why is he selling out by playing on the mayor festivals in Europe this summer? On MTV Europe he`s even mentioned between the Pretenders and Van Halen for the coming Rock am Ring. What`s next a duet with Garth Brooks. Why doesn`t he remain in the club-circuit. It suits the music and attidude of him a lot better. Damn. Wolverine-j. --------------------------------- From: mdm1@cc.bellcore.com (michael d myers) Date: 28 Nov 1994 14:19 EST Subject: Continental Crawler EP sales info CONTINENTAL CRAWLER: PROMOTIONAL POLLUTION Attention Misfits fans. If you want everything about the Misfits you've got to have this record. It features ex-Misfits drummer Mr. Jim (Jim Catania) who played on such excellent Misfits songs like "Attitude" and "Hollywood Babylon". Mr. Jim's "other" band was Continental Crawler, who put out a limited edition EP with 3 songs in 1979. There are only a few copies left of this rare record which features a picture sleeve and a band picture. You can get a copy by sending $4.00 (check or money order) to: Mike Myers P.O. Box 461 Berkeley Heights, N.J. 07922 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 18:11:09 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Flemming Subject: Bass Tab...? WARRIOR138@aol.com arranged the electrons to say: >I noticed a lot of people are talking about Guitar tab and stuff like that > for misfits songs, but howzabout some bass tab? i know more than one of us >plays bass (me, Crimson Ghost, and probibly a few others), so lets get some >up here. Thats about all I have to say. Well I have a little bit more to say. Why don't you sit yourself down and type some bass tab? Is this such a hard concept for people to understand? How many of you have been playing an instrument for more than 1 week? I assume than that you know what notes are. They are those funny little dotes with lines on them. They have been around MUCH longer than TAB. Maybe you have heard of it before..I believe it is called sheet music. People have been so spoiled by TAB it's making me sick. Look, I posted those chords so anyone with half a clue as to where to fret those notes on a guitar (bass or otherwise) would be able to play them. Let me clue you in....the Misfits...they weren't ones to harmonize much. If the guitar is playing a "G" I'm willing to bet my last body organ on the fact that the bass is playing a "G" also. I explained last time that when the bass is doing that galloping thing, that 9 times out of 10 it is just root, octave, or root, minor third. If you don't know what that means, I suggest learning. I have given you all the root notes...all you need to do is sit down and listen to the damn CDs and play. Unless you're Keith Richards I assume that you'll be able to hear when the guitar and bass change notes. No one likes to work for anything anymore. Everyone wants something handed to them. Learn for yourself, they aren't too tough. It takes more than being able to play a few power chords to be a good guitarist. --Robert (forever shaking his head at the people that just don't get it.) (all sarcasm is obviously intended.) (sorry for the length.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 95 21:10:24 EST From: MisFit Subject: Stuff I am looking for Misfits stuff, since I live in a hick town, the only CD's I have are Walk among us (my favorite) Legacy, and the Collection (which I got for 99 cents on a used cd rack!) I also have Die Die my Darling on vinyl, but I need a copy of the following songs, but I will buy anything. Last Caress Children in Heat Spook City, USA Return of the Fly Cool Cough Attitude and any other songs that arent on the albums that I listed..... Thanks alot Hi EVB! When I sin, I sin real good MiSiFiT ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 63 Thursday, March 9th 1995 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #62 ....... Just a question... Re: Misfits Bible, #62 hello! Buncho Stuff and this flame thing My own brother...... Lucifer II-Danzifuge "LUCIFER" AOL jerk When Death Had No Name... yeah yeah right the last bible some comments on 61... Glenn's mouth And another thing.... When Death had no name Kill Your Baby cd, Verotik SELLOUT!! Re: Misfits Bible, #62 #62 Missed a few.... Re: Misfits Bible, #62 Misfits address pictures... LATEST DANZIG TOUR UPDATES as of 3/8/95 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 03:10:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #62 Last time DarkLo said: >In the misfits and all the bands since, Glenn has been singing as well as >writing the music. Although Jerry claims to have written some of the music >for the most part Glenn was the talent in the band. You know it's people like you that really piss me off. Nobody on this list, including me will dispute the fact that Glenzig is a very talented guy. But please don't try to talk about something that you obviously know nothing about. Jerry not only claims to have written he did write as did every other person in the band (with exception to the drummers) the MAJORITY of the music that they played. If you don't believe me that's to bad.. I cannot prove this to you without over stepping my freindship with jerry. So take what I say at face value. Dorin said: >I like the 4p album and all but it's definitely not metal... No not metal "Cock Rock" is more appropiate - btw: I like it too :) Geoff We@sel said RE: Lucifer@aol: >You suck ass. Your post has to be the most worthless drivel I've >read in a >long time. First of all, "King of Babylon?" Pfah. Know yer Bible >before taking >a reference from it. Second, what's with the pseudo-Lobo speech? >Figures you come from AOL. Chaod. Geoff I agree with you, but do you have to shit on AOL because we got morons like this?? This btw is exact type of fan that danzig is geared for these days. just as i've been writting for a while, read my review of 4p a few issues back for the reference. This guy (Kid) probably thinks we are all fucked up like him, and worship the dark one as he does. let me tell you the only things I worship are my daughter and the all mighty Dollar bill. Yannis said in response to someone else re: misfits back together: >>> I'm betting the same thing will happen with The Misfits. >Hmmm, as far as I know Danzig was writing most (if not all) songs so >I'm sure there will be a difference ... and don't forget that Black >Flag didn't split up for more than 10 years and then reformed... Yes Glenzig did write the majority (if not all) of the songs.. the band however wrote the majority of the music. Since you can't even hear what glenn is singing on most of them I can't see how they could be a diference.. hehehehe +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 11:04:42 +0300 (EET) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: ....... Some comments on last issue.... > Brent Christopher Eyestone wrote about : > Subject: SELLOUT!! In general terms I agree with you about the sellout thing but about Rollins (although I'm still a fan) I got some mixed feelings...still, though, I believe he's got things to say... I won't elaborate because I've done so, many times on alt.punk on this particular subject... > andrew r dixon : > > i was looking at the tour dates for that misfits reunion and noticed that > there were no dates near baltimore/dc area. are there going to be dates > added or what? Since I don't have access to WWW (I have, but I have to go through telnet servers blah, blah and its very time-consuming), I didn't know the Misfits already have a touring schedule!!?! Do they have any European dates? They better have some! > bloodboy wrote : > Subject: BORING > > I'm sorry, but the last few Bibles have been boring as shit! Yea, I sort of agree... > It was more interesting when everyone was insulting each other! Yea, let's get some arguments going! Ok, I'll start... Bloodboy, you suck! (only joking :) ) > By the way, I'm giving free spelling and grammar lessons for everyone who > obviously needs it. Hmm, I see you're already on the warpath ;) Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### ### ### ------------------------------ From: J.Baldry@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 10:29:54 GMT Subject: Just a question... Hi there, I'm from the UK and have only just subscribed to this list... so please be patient! I really wanna know if there is a Danzig specific list because the UK basically missed out totally on the Misfits/Samhain and so not many people have got any interest in them. Does anyone out there like the (glenn produced) Kinghorse album? I think it is excellent after a few plays... crap cover tho' ( when r people gonna realise that Pushead is totally boring?!? ). If anyone can give me the Danzig list address I'd be very grateful.... Julian (djba@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 10:58:50 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #62 >Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:12:42 -0500 >From: bloodboy >Subject: BORING > >I'm sorry, but the last few Bibles have been boring as shit! People ask >the same damn questions and then everyone else answers them in the next >issue. And all this shit about Danzig tour dates - how many times do they >have to be posted? If everyone just read each Bible carefully, lots of >this shit would not have to be repeated. It was more interesting when >everyone was insulting each other! > >And about bass tab: Robert's tab on the home page shows the notes; what >more do you need? And if you don't know the notes, it would be worthwhile >to learn them; it's not too tough. > >By the way, I'm giving free spelling and grammar lessons for everyone who >obviously needs it. Misspelled words and bad sentence structure really >make >you look ignorant and, therefore, lessen the strength of your argument. > >Looking forward to more insightful comments in the next issue, > >bloodboy > =46uck off bloodboy. You don't know shit! The bible is about info. If you= wanna fight, come over to my place and we'll rumble! Just because you seem= to be a *little* bit more insightful than some of the others (mainly new= posters) you don't have to cop an attitude and make 'em feel like shit. As= far as grammar, I've seen some posts of yours that are worse than baby babb= le. =13=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9NINcompoop=81= =A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9 ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: hello! Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 13:16:05 -0500 (EST) well, i have enjoyed being a bystander for a little while, seeing that i have only posted once in about a month or so... but i wanna say a couple of things that just came to mind. if you are unaware, FLIPSIDE magazine released a 2 cd set called "The best of Flipside Vol. 1", i think, and it contains about 50 or so punk songs, one of which is "Attitude" by the Misfits. It is a live recording of the song, and a fairly good one at that. I got the cd a long time ago, and it completely slipped my mind to tell you about it until today. Does anyone out there happen to have any boot cd's of the Misfits that they would be willing to make copies of? I have a good collection of video boots by punk bands myself (including the misfits), perhaps we can trade... I was also thinking of this, it would be really cool for those of us who do not have access to the rare stuff by the misfits if someone made a tape of the b-sides and rare songs by the misfits and put all or a lot of them on a 90 minute tape. we could then send that person blanks or postage $ (or both) to get a hold of it. If you think it is a good idea, respond to me privately and let me know what you think. obrien81@matrix.newpaltz.edu Otherwise, post suggestions on the list. thanx. I met Glenn and John Christ in December 1993 in NYC after the show w/ Kyuss at the Roseland. Was anyone else there? Glenn was friendly and shook my hand. I may catch Danzig at The Utica Aud. April 25th. If anyone else is going to that show, we should meet! well, i've gotta go... - evan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 15:11:37 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Buncho Stuff and this flame thing First to Lucifer18@aol.com and sestewar@vt.edu. No one wants to hear your shit ok? If you guys don't like whats in the Bible post something intelligent and some people misspell words while typing its a common mistake that I make alot because I don't keep a dictionary around to spell words. If you can't figure out what I said thats your problem. If you think this is lame then write mail to msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu and have yourself removed because I am already calling for that AOL geek to be moved off the Bible. Maybe people missed something or weren't around for all the Bibles and need a new question answered. Its not going to kill anyone to answer it and I guesse fuck us if we like to help someone out. Also whoever wrote about selling out. I bow to you. You brought up a good point and really.. both those guys (Hank and Glenn) have been doing this for over 15 years now. They deserve something for their work and they deserve to make a living off what they do as long as they stay true to themselves. So what if Glenn has a comic company? Maybe thats been his ambition for some time now and now he has the funds to finnaly start it. And Henry also wants others to be heard on his publishing company. Well its not their fault they want to be able to afford it and not go broke in the process of trying to do something they enjoy. ------------------------------ From: WARRIOR138@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:38:09 -0500 Subject: My own brother...... Allright, I'll admit that a lot of the bass stuff for the Misfits is pretty easy to figure out. Probibly even easier if you have an amp that works. But my own brother is the last person on earth i would have thought to flame me on this one. Especially since he's been playing guitar for a few years longer than ive been playing bass. He talks to me about figuring out songs, but he cant even tune his guitar. GOTCHA!!!!! --WARRIOR ------------------------------ From: LUCIFER18@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:39:58 -0500 Subject: Lucifer II-Danzifuge Hey, geeks. I got some important things to say about the last "bible", starting with..... to: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Subject: "LUCIFER" AOL jerk >What the hell prompted this? I thought at least the mail groups >were safe from this crap Quit yer cryin' > I guess I was wrong. Yeah, there's something new > Well, anybody who signs his name like that >is hungry for attention, I guess. Well here's some of mine. No, its just a cry for help!!!!! to :"Ricky Hinojos" Subject: When Death Had No Name... >Just remember that he likes A G E and D. >Aged? Isn't that what Glenn is? >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That has got to be one of the worst jokes on the face of this meger planet. Dont quit your day job, ricky. Guitar jokes just dont work, allright? to: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: yeah yeah right > Your post has to be the most worthless drivel I've read in a long > long time. Thank you for your support, Monkey-spank > First of all, "King of Babylon?" Pfah. Know yer Bible before taking >a reference from it. Isiah XIV-ever heard of it, numb nuts? to: WARRIOR138@aol.com Subject: the last bible >I noticed a lot of people are talking about Guitar tab and stuff like that >for misfits songs, but howzabout some bass tab? i know more than one of us >plays bass (me, Crimson Ghost, and probibly a few others), so lets get some >up here. I actually aggree with some people on this one. This "Warrior" geek needs to grow some ears. Did Glenn have any tab when he wrote the stuff? No. You can get by without it. > Thats about all I have to say. Good, maybe youll shut up then. back to Rodent, or whetever its name was- >Well geez Jim you went and woke me up one morining to show me >how great it was that you learned the bass to "Green Hell," >WITHOUT A TAB Gee, and thats a real hard song, too. It must have taken you hours to figure out all three notes. >why don't you just learn it the same way, _or_ do that and make up >the tabs and post 'em? I think this is getting a little repetative, dont you? > You didn't seem to have trouble w/ "Green Hell" Like i said, repetativeness > . . . ah well, just a thought.... Treat it kindly, its in a STRANGE place >btw loved the guitar tabs, learning them now :) btw I DONT REALLY CARE!!!!! {:O <---weasel at night to: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: some comments on 61... >> From: LUCIFER18@aol.com > >> Any more stupid questions or comments? >Yea, less attitude! Didnt I say something before about crying? The repetativeness strikes again!!!!! Please say more galatically stupid stuff. I enjoy doing this. Lucifer Morningstar, Bringer of Light ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 15:55:53 -0600 (CST) From: Deana Greenfield Subject: Glenn's mouth I have a friend in Philly who went to a Danzig concert some time ago where she swears that Glenn said "You sure have a lot of niggers in this city"...she said he proceeded to use the word nigger' through out the concert. I was wondering if anyone out there knows of incidents like this one and if this is a comman thing during Danzig concerts or what? deana ------------------------------ From: WARRIOR138@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:07:49 -0500 Subject: And another thing.... And to top it off, i just finished figuring out "Disconnect" by Rollins Band after having the CD for just under 2 weeks, ok?anything else about me? I'll get that lucifer guy on ya. Who is he, anyway? At first, I thought it was CG, but decided against that. later --WARRIOR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 18:28:58 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: When Death had no name the intro goes like this e +----------- b +----------- g +-----4-4-4- d +---2-4-5-4- a +---2-2-2-2- e +---0-2-2-2- Dempz ------------------------------ From: Ralph Herbert Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 09:18:31 +0100 Subject: Kill Your Baby cd, Verotik From: Drslfin@aol.com > I found a misfits cd today called "kill your baby today" it was in the cheap > rack and went for 14.00.. it said on the cover that it was recorded live at > the Ritz in NY in december 1981...there are 20 tracks and it has the live > track of Mommy used on Walk Among Us... the big question is was this a > mistake on the part of the store and was it a deal? The Kill Your Baby Today cd really is that cheap (in every sense of the word). Around here, it sells for no more than DM 15. I still wouldn't buy it unless you like your live-recordings all cut up. Other Misfits cds that are definitely not worth the money are Horror Business and (*shudder*) Seven Boots From Hell. Beware! From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: SELLOUT!! > he wants to spend his money and where he doesn't. If you look at some of > the back issues, you'll notice how we talked about Verotik, Glenn's new > comic company. A lot of people probably see this as yet another way for > Glenn to make even more money. This is so far from the truth. Yes, he does > make money from this venture, BUT like Henry, he is using it to help out > other artists who aren't lucky enough to be in his position - TIM VIGIL in > particular. I disagree with your statement that Glenn's intention with Verotik is to support other artists. If you look at the upcoming (???) Verotik releases, how come that 3 out of 4 titles (not counting the Satanika origin story in Verotika #1) are written by ... Glenn Danzig? Couldn't it rather be that he's using his current popularity to sell a couple of hastily slapped together comic books and pretend he's a writer? He should leave this field to the real pros like Frank Miller, Paul Chadwick or John Byrne. About Tim Vigil, well, I can't say that I'm into Faust, but I have to agree that he's a great artist. However, where's the point in slapping stupid computer colors over artwork that was intended to be in b/w? Some things are best left untampered with. ralph "Why can't all the old bands reform stick to playing their old songs it ain't punk if it ain't just like the old days. That was then, this is now suckling up to the sacred cow can leave ya stuck in the mud with its remains. Nostalgia for an age that never existed." (Jello Biafra) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:59:57 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #62 After reading Brent Eyestone's post about sell outs, I began to= think of what I thought a sell out was. I don't think that Glenn's a sell= out in any respect, that's for sure. I think that "selling out" is= compromising one's integrity and emotions to gain monetary respect. I= think if Glenn where to turn "grunge" he would be a sell out. I think that= if Glenn where to turn "punk" again, he'd be a really big sell out. Glenn= likes what he's doing and he's not compromising any of his professional= career for it. He does what he wants wheter or not other people like it. Many people on the list have trashed Green Day for being sell outs. = Green Day may not be as punk as the Misfits, but they are punk. Their= music is obnoxious. Sure dying their hair blue is a sell out gesture but= they still have a punk integrity. They didn't produce their new album with= the aspects of becoming rock stars. It just happened. I don't like Green= Day, but I will stand up for them, because they do what they want. I don't know if this matters to anybody, I'm not sure if it even= matters to me, I'm just getting kinda sick of the band bashing on this= list. There is no reason to bash another band just because you don't like= them. Just ignore them, you don't have to say that they are terrible= because there are plenty of people who like them. TTFN -the once but not now child in heat- =13=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9NI= Ncompoop=81=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9 \/\/=A3 |-|=AA=DD=A3 =86=F8v=A3 =AE=AE=AE=AE \/\/=A3 =86=F8= v=A3 |-|=AA=DD=A3 ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: #62 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:26:59 -0500 (EST) hi, first i agree lucifer went a little outta his way, but fuck it, there is this thing called freedom of speech in this country. OR DID YOU FORGET? to sean, al's bar was owned by someone named moore, u can't recall his first name, from what i've heard he was sorta an ass, but htan all club owners are. i agree with breet about the sellout part, neither danzig or rolloins changed their musical style, and the extra $$$ they get goes back to the struggling industry they rose from. isn't that the idea of r'n'r, or punk, to make $$. even if you on't wanna make a shitload, and be underground, you gotta make money, even gg made money. i also play bass, and would love some tabs, because i'm too lazy to figure them out, and don't got the time. paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hahn | "...Hi, I'm your concience, and we're easily hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu | distracted by bright shiny objects..." hahnpaul@student.msu.edu | - the Tick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Missed a few.... Date: Wed, 08 Mar 95 17:12:00 est Didn't mean to miss a few bibles but have been REALLY busy lately - sigh... not enough hours in the day! Sorry when I first posted that bunch of tour dates that I didn't specify it was DANZIG and a few of you thought it was for the Misfits- hopeful thinking!! Next time I'll remember to be more thorough and say what band it's for! Anyway, updated dates should be in this bible as they are still rearranging dates. Mark, CG & everybody else - I'm working on a Misfits FAQ, just coming slowly since I haven't had much time... I've been going through old Bibles & taking questions that were asked in there. Of course many are best answered by consulting Mark's exhaustive discography since most are in the category of "is this a bootleg" and what record is "x" on, but if anybody has any others PLEASE forward them to me for inclusion! Sorry it's taken me so long! I wouldn't mind doing a Samhain one too if anybody has any Q's on them. Few comments on 60/61/62: Mark - I like the Tuesday/Thursday schedule so I hope you'll keep it. I don't think the size is too big & would justify more frequent bibles. Michael Joseph McCusty - welcome aboard (as of MB #61 - told ya I'm behind!) Got a great giggle from your sig "love, luck, and lollipops" from my 2nd fav P&TB episode (after "Bubba Bo Bob Brain") Alexandra Gerber asked " What's Up with the Angels of the Seventh Dawn fan club." Oh boy I could spend hours on this topic - I've been quite and frustrated about this a long while but maybe it's time I told folks what's up. Here's the scoop - Danzig had originally contracted a Van Nuys based firm called American Noise some years ago to run AOTSD for them - the band was also paying these guys to do mailings & send out things like tour dates, etc. At first they sent out a ton of stuff & then slacked off and the band only found out that stuff wasn't coming out when fans came up to them & asked "how come I never got...." etc. So after a ton of complaints the band that he wanted to do it (already doing the hot line messages & answering 95% of the fan mail himself) so he told folks to send him five bucks for a newsletter. Well, he put those out quarterly for a year but he no longer has the time. Anyway, I've been volunteering to do it for years now (feeling strongly that a real FAN who really cares about the band could do a better job than some guys just paid to do it), and have been telling them this since they started having problems with American Noise, but Glenn wanted to give EV a shot since he was so keen on it. Now that EV doesn't want to do it I've got Glenn's OK but he wants me to clear everything with their management. Here I've been running into a brick wall as this guy does not return phone calls, answer letters & the few times I've been able to get through to him on the phone he's put me on hold right away & promised to call back. I know he's a busy Hollywood bigshot (who also manages Guns N'Roses) and Danzig probably isn't his biggest priority, but it's hard not to feel like I'm getting blown off. I've written the band to tell them what's up & hope to get a chance to talk to them when I see them again on this upcoming tour - maybe they just have to instruct their manager to get in touch with me. (Hey, he might not even believe me & think I'm just coming out of left field with this crazy notion, right?) But trust me, I am doing everything I can!!! Meanwhile I'm trying to do as much as I can to promote the band - hence the tour date postings, alt.music.danzig FAQ and passing on news & info on the band whenever possible - until I can do it "officially" for them I'll do everything "unofficially" as best I can! (And if/when I get this running I can assure you it WILL NOT BE "LAME"!) Brent Eyestone: agree with you on "Sellout". Actually I define selling out as when you tailor your creation to be more commercially palatable & easier to sell to the mainstream. Let's face it, if Glenn REALLY wanted to sell millions & millions of records he'd have to ditch the "dark" side of things that tend to make most folks nervous as something a little warmer & cuddlier would be more commercial to the mass populace. Ain't gonna happen - the money isn't THAT important to him (or he would have taken the vocalist position in Metallica when it was offered to him) It just pisses me off to no end when people yell "sellout" just because other folks have discovered it when the basic music or whatever hasn't changed. Like NIN for example - I think "The Downward Spiral" is HARDLY what you'd call "accessible" and for the life of me I can't figure out how they got so huge overnight except there must be THAT MANY disaffected depressed youth out there that identify with Mr., Reznor, which in itself is a little frightening. Good point about how both Henry and Glenn are putting their $ back into their publishing companies - I think it's great they can do something worthwhile & promote fields they are interested in! (BTW Brent or anybody else - did anybody tape Henry Rollins on the Grammys? I missed it & really want a copy of it - can trade Misfits videos!) CTernes - that must be a different promo CD of Cantspeak! Mine is one of the "blank" ones that doesn't tell who the band is on the disc or sleeve. The idea behind that was to give it to DJ's that might have preconceived notions of Danzig & get them to play it without knowing who it was. I didn't even know there was another version so thanks for the info! Now I'll have to hunt that one down. Wolverine-j - the 5 city promo tour Glenn did in Europe was just to do press interviews for the forthcoming festival gigs they'll be doing in late May/June. Sorry but I don't have any dates aside from Berlin 5/29. BTW this isn't the first time they've played the metal festivals in Europe - they've been playing them for years! And it doesn't mean they won't necessarily also play clubs over there as well - a pen pal of mine follows them around Europe much like I do here in the US & he's told me they've played many clubs in between the festival dates. (If you have problems getting info on dates I can send you his address as he'd be a good person to contact) Better scram for now - off on another roadtrip again tomorrow AM. Yeah, I know the Danzig tour hasn't started yet but I'm off for three more MARILYN MANSON shows! (Stop the presses - Liz is following another band!) And I am so psyched that they'll be opening for the Danzig tour since after seeing them live they quickly zoomed up my personal hit parade to become my 2nd fav band. (If anybody is interested there is also a MM mailing list & home page - write me for info if interested!) And yes, their Eurythmics cover of "Sweet Dreams" must be heard to be believed! Speaking of MM, yes, I taped the Donahue show they were on - it was a riot! Some "old school" punks were on talking about the early days but no, afraid they didn't mention the Misfits. (Remember folks - moshing is dangerous! heheheh) - EVB sistinas@planetcom.com (writing from work again...) ------------------------------ From: dorin@mailbox.mcs.com Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:55:17 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #62 > I don't know if he'll look good but I think he will have one soon whether > he likes it or not ;) why's would he have to have his head shaved? --Greg... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:39:00 -0500 From: "james (j.) miller" Subject: Misfits address Hi Y'all, I'm new to the list, and saw that someone posted an address for the re-formed Misfits. I have a buddy who's a Misfits Fiend & a half who used to sing in a band I was in, & I'd like to get him the address to send a demo of himself. If someone could post or Email me the address for the demos I'll get it to him. Sorry, fatfingered. I am at: jmiller.brtph83c.bnr.ca. Thanks much. Also, I don't have WWW access, & I'd like the lyrics for Death Comes Ripping if anyone has them. RM ------------------------------ From: HororHotel@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:27:28 -0500 Subject: pictures... I'm new here, so this may be old new to everyone, but I was in the bookstore the other day looking through the rock n roll section, and I was flipping through the Henry Rollins book "Get In The Van" and there was a picture of the Misfits with Rollins. It was a nice group shot of the whole band. There was also another book called "Punk Rock diary" or something like that. The only mention of the Misfits in the entire book was a short anecdote about how they had played a show with the Damned and had discussed a possible European tour over beers afterward, and then a couple of months later the Misfits showed up at the Damned's singer's house in England completely unannounced and said that they were ready to go on tour. Even though nothing had been planned, they went on tour anyway. It's kind of funny to me that in all of those books and anthologies and histories of punk rock, the Misfits almost never get mentioned. They were probably a pretty obscure band in their day, and have a lot more fans now than they ever did when they were around. ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: LATEST DANZIG TOUR UPDATES as of 3/8/95 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 95 16:03:00 est LATEST TOUR UPDATES: EV changed the message on the hot line again & they've changed around some of the tour dates, so here's the latest listing - I've tried to mark the changes with an asterisk. MARCH 24 Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA 25 Universal Amphitheater, Los Angeles, CA 26 Starlight Bowl, San Diego, CA 28 Huntridge Theatre, Las Vegas, NV 30 Auditorium, Colorado Springs, CO APRIL 1 Convention Center, Albuquerque, NM 2 County Coliseum, El Paso, TX 4 Coliseum, Austin, TX 5 Johnnyland, Corpus Christi, TX 7 American Theatre, St. Louis, MO 8 Memorial Hall, Kansas City, MO 10 Mancuso Hall, Omaha, NB 11 * PUMP ROOM, SIOUX FALLS, SD (ADDED) 13 Civic Memorial Auditorium, Fargo, ND 14 Roy Wilkens Auditorium, St. Paul, MN 15 Palmer Auditorium, Davenport, IA 17 Madison Theatre, Peoria, IL 18 Newport Theatre, Columbus, OH 19 Wings Stadium, Kalamazoo, MI 21 Detroit State Theatre, Detroit, MI 22 Louisville Gardens, Louisville, KY 23 Akron Rhodes Arena, Akron, OH 25 Utica Auditorium, Utica, NY 26 Count Basie Theatre, Red Bank, NJ 28 * NEW BRIGHTON CT (Changed from Hartford) 29 Kirby Center, Wilkes Barre, PA 30 Golden Dome, Pittsburgh, PA MAY 2 * BOATHOUSE, NORFOLK VA (changed from DC) 3 * HEADROOM, MYRTLE BEACH, SC (dated changed) 5 Ritz Capri, Charlotte, NC 6 Sloss Furnaces, Birmingham, AL 7 * ELECTRIC BALLROOM, KNOXVILLE, TN 9 * SPINNAKERS, PANAMA CITY., FL (date changed) 10 The Edge Ballroom, Jacksonville, FL 12 Expo Center, Tampa, FL 13 Sunrise Music Theater, Sunrise FL 14 Edge Amphitheater, Orlando, FL If I hear any further changes or updates I'll pass 'em along! -EVB sistinas@planetcom.com ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Comments on #63 HELP!!!!!!!!! 63 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DarkLo730@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 07:34:11 -0500 Subject: Writing Songs Did Glenn come up with melody and chord progression and then the band write the music to there own parts? Writing and arragning music are two different things? Maybe everyone in the misfits wrote there own parts even if Glenn came up with it. We will all see how much they really did write when the misfits start recording new stuff. mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:24:28 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #63 >From: dorin@mailbox.mcs.com >Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:55:17 >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #62 > >> I don't know if he'll look good but I think he will have one soon whether >> he likes it or not ;) > >why's would he have to have his head shaved? > >--Greg... > Have you checked his pictures lately? He's going BALD!!! ++++++++++++++++NINcompoop+++++++++++++++ \/\/e |-|ate |_ove ***** \/\/e |_ove |-|ate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 11:49:54 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: NINcomDORK OK, tough guy, I'm ready when you are. And in reference to baby babble, what was all that gibberish cluttering up your ignorant shit-talking message? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 12:04:30 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: Re: FLAMING First of all, don't compare me to this apparent cretin, lucifer. I completely agree that he should be kicked off the list. Secondly, I wasn't speaking to anyone in particular when I described the last Bible as boring. It just seemed like a lot of unnecessary repetition was occurring, that's all. Thirdly, I enjoy the list and I enjoy reading most of the postings. Most of what people have to say is interesting (excepting Mr. Lucifer). So please don't classify me with him. The comment about spelling and grammar was simply a little sarcasm to brighten everyone's day - no need to get offended. Thanks to Brent for his insightful and interesting posting on sellouts. I really enjoyed reading it! (: bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:06:01 -0800 From: Ricky Hinojos Subject: Wonderful TAB >>Just remember that he likes A G E and D. >>Aged? Isn't that what Glenn is? >>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >That has got to be one of the worst jokes on the face of this meger planet. >Dont quit your day job, ricky. Guitar jokes just dont work, allright? Apparently, neither does your spell checker. ;) Oh, well, enough of the crap. Bass TAB? Shit, why don't you just ask us to show up at your house and put your fingers on the correct fret? Power chords? I think Rob showed me one afternoon in my backyard how to finger a power chord: "Root, fifth, octave. Got it, Ryq?" "Uh, do I have to do use the octave?" A while later, I figured out the chord changes on the bass, learned the guitar, then called up Rob and told him how to play "bullet". I had only been playing for 6 months. The result? All the lovely TAB available on Mark's beautifully done Misfits WWW Page. And I am definitely *not* a musical prodigy. Sure we're still correcting ourselves, but it's there on the Page for you to work with. The chord changes are for guitar, bass, keyboard, a friggin sax if you want. Knock yourself out... Back to skipping over the Bible when it pops up in the e-mailbox. Lollipop Ryq ------------------------------ From: LUCIFER18@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 16:45:01 -0500 Subject: NOVEMBER COMING LUCIFER I just read the latest "bible" and I'm shocked! It seems that noone likes me very much. Oh well, I'll live. Well, It's time to do my thang To:evan obrien Subject: hello! >Does anyone out there happen to have any boot cd's of the Misfits Gee, those are so rare. I dont know if anyone on the *MISFITS* bible would have any bootlegs by the MISFITS. Two words-"Stupid" and "Question". welcome to the bible. >I was also thinking of this, it would be really cool for those of us who >do not have access to the rare stuff by the misfits if someone made >a tape of the b-sides and rare songs by the misfits and put all or a >lot of them on a 90 minute tape. Its called "Beware and the Rest", Evian. Ever hear of it? To: : Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Buncho Stuff and this flame thing >First to Lucifer18@aol.com and sestewar@vt.edu I do think this one is about me! > If you think this is lame then write mail to > msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu and have yourself removed because > I am already calling for that AOL geek to > be moved off the Bible. That might prove to be a problem, because I don't seem to be on this thing at all!!! OOPS! To: WARRIOR138@aol.com Subject: My own brother...... > But my own brother is the last person on earth i would have >thought to flame me on this one. Especially since he's been >playing guitar for a few years longer than ive been playing bass. He >talks to me about figuring out songs, but he cant even tune his >guitar. Now THAT is just too funny!!!! The Wet Weasel cant tune his guitar!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! >And to top it off, i just finished figuring out "Disconnect" by Rollins >Band after having the CD for just under 2 weeks, ok? Your parents must be proud >anything else about me? Just give me a little while >I'll get that lucifer guy on ya. No you wont! That would be obscene! > Who is he, anyway? At first, I thought it was CG, but decided > against that. Good choice, cuz I aint him TO: Paul Hahn Subject: #62 >hi, how are ya? > first i agree lucifer went a little outta his way No, it was in the path of where I was going. > there is this thing called freedom of speech in this country. Thanks for the update dorin@mailbox.mcs.com Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #62 >why's would he have to have his head shaved? Yes, there is such thing as a good question here!! Dorin has a point, why would he shave his head. Thats about all I'm gonna say for today. Just remember-I come to you like an affliction, but I leave you like an addiction. Lucifer Morningstar, Bringer of Light ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 23:55:21 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: DieDie For all yelling sellout...I laugh at you...Listen to Green Day or something...Angst-this you bitter unrelenting fools... Hey if you think Danzig is a sellout(and I shudder at saying such a statement because I know where this artificial label came from and I know that anyone who is really into D/M/S should see right through it) than dont listen, not our problem... Remember we dont care. BTW I hope all you phony one shot fans of D/M/S paid good money for Danzig stuff and then were told or were suddenly enlighten that because great music cannot hide forever, it must be a sellout. Yeah good money... Make Glenn rich idiots, cause than we can get more sellout records and better shows and we can all keep suffering..hahahaha.. yeah right.. DANZIG HAS NEVER COMPROMISED HIS MUSIC OR BELIEFS FOR NOTHING, remember it. Whose little arms encircle me and make me think of love? Whose supple body aches to be a limbless bloody stump? ------------------------------ From: Stewart Gallacher <9243471g@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Subject: TRADE Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 12:48:20 +0000 (GMT) FIENDS, .. From reading the last few Bibles there seems to have been a fair bit of talk about the German CD release of WOLFSBLOOD which includes the EVILIVE E.P. I have a copy of this CD which features colour artwork of the original WOLFSBLOOD and EARTH AD covers. It is not a bootleg. I would be willing to send this CD to anyone anywhere in the world of they were to send me by the way of a trade a Misfits or Samhain video of a reasonable quality, preferably (though not essentially) converted to work on the British PAL system- I reiterate that this is only a preference and is not a condition of the trade. If nobody is interested in this trade I also have several Misfits/Samhain/Danzig shows which I would also be willing to trade for a reasonable quality Misfits or Samhain video. If anyone is interested in getting the above CD or in another sort of trade please e-mail me at 9243471g@udcf.gla.ac.uk Also, send me e-mail if you would like any futher details regarding the WOLFSBLOOD/EVILIVE CD. Well that's it for now, Regards, Stewart Gallacher. ------------------------------ From: dorin@mailbox.mcs.com Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 16:56:41 Subject: the British Hearing Deana's story, it reminded me of something... on the web I saw the quotes from several Misfits concerts and each time they played London Dungeon, Glenn started ripping on the british.. Then a friend of mine told me about a radio interview with Glenn and english band PJ harvey(i dunno why) and straight out Glenn said to PJ Harvey "I don't like your music." she replied "I didn't ask for your opinion." Then Glenn, imitating the english accent, said "Well, here in America we're entitled to our opinion, bitch." What I'm wondering is...why does Glenn hate the british? --Greg-- ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 18:07:47 -0500 Subject: LUCIFER SHITHEAD @ AOL Well shit here we go again this guy Lucifer18@aol.com, has inside of two issues, managed to piss off everybody on this list. He has pissed off people who are obviously BETTER, more INTELLEGENT, and people who can probably keep it up longer than him to boot!! This has nothing to do with free speech this guy's an asshole. He's not being Punk, Anarchic, etc.. he's just being a jerk off.. As far as I'm concerned I would rather not have this neanderthal reading my posts. We live in a democratic society where majority rules. I say either this asswipe tones his ass down right quick. or we douche him. +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 16:42:36 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: CNGB on MTV On MTV's show SUPEROCK the Offspring made their TV debut being interviewd and taped it at CBGB's. Anyhow while inside if anyone was looking 3 times the Misfits came up. First on a picture or poster in the background it said MISFITS and it looked like Glenn and Jerry were in it but I couldn't tell next in sprypaint on the outside it said Misfits and again on the inside in spraypaint it said MISFITS. They are all sorta hard to catch specially the spray paint ones cuz there are other things painted all around too but just add it to your list of keen Misfits on TV stuff :) ------------------------------ From: ElSlayer@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 22:45:39 -0500 Subject: bass style... hey... me and my band have been playing some misfits songs recently and ive decided to try and learn to play with a pick (ive been finger picking for like 2 years now, playing mainly metal.). i try and play downpicks as often as possible, but as you can tell, some of the songs get a little to fast for me to handle. also, ive been trying to mimic jerry only's style by listening to live recordings, but just havent been able to quite get that "feel". i tried doing what robert flemming said (octave/minor 3rd), but he cant possibly be playing as fast as ive been hearing. Anyways, can someone tell me the style of playing jerry only used (how he picked, what gauge pick he used, and if he is actually doing all i said above...) mabey im trying to hard... ___ | _ \ /___ __ ### HE'S ONE BAD### [elslayer@aol.com] |___ | /_\ \/|__ |__> ### ### or ___||__/ \/ |___| \ ### MUTHA ### [slayer@cyberverse.com] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 17:33:52 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: rawk Hi everyone, First off, thanks to everyone who responded to my "SELLOUT!!" post. You guys had a lot of intelligent ideas to add to the conversation and it was a lot of fun reading your posts in return. This is what these lists are made for. To Ralph in Stuttgart: No, I haven't seen the upcoming titles for Verotik. I made those comments concerning Glenn and Verotik based on conversations EVB and I had privately. If you think Glenn's entrance into the comic field is self-serving - fine. But there's a lot of people who feel otherwise. Thanks anyways. How's Stuttgart these days (I used to live there)? To EVB: Sorry buster! I did not tape Henry's Grammy performance because I had no idea he would be on. I'll try to locate a copy for you, though. BTW, it should be known that Henry attended the post-Grammy party wearing a black t-shirt and shorts (it was supposed to be a black-tie affair!). Great commentary on NIN in regards to the sellout thing! Check out the new Details magazine for even more! To Lucifer and anyone who cares: Listen, I guess you're new here or something. So let me tell you a story. When I first posted to this list, I thought I was some bad-ass holier-than-thou motherfucker (sound familiar?) whose first post contained a rather mean-spirited flame directed toward a contributer named Big Ted. Let me tell you, this was probably the stupidest thing I've ever done with a computer because before you could say "flamethrower," I had the wrath of the Crimson Ghost upon me (do you even know who he is?). Anyways, Crimsy explained to me that flames and attitudes should be checked at the door because this list and the people on this list act like a "family." Often dysfunctional - but a family nonetheless. We look out for each other and we do not maliciously attack one another like you have chosen to do. Why don't you just take the time to sit down and think of something that is worth posting? You will find that the people on this list will be more respondent and will help you in anyway they can once you post something legitimate. For instance, in the time I've been on this list, I've become better acquainted with EVB, Yannis, Robert Flemming, the Crimson Ghost, and Chris Vomit to name a few. I've learned a lot from these people about non-Misfits things etc. through private posts. Chris Vomit and I are even planning on trading tapes, something impossible if you act like a fucking idiot and make everyone on the list hate you. Don't you have anything better to do with your time than sit like a *coward* behind your keyboard and peck out immature little comments toward people miles and miles away from you? What's your AOL bill like every month? Anyways, grow up or shut up. To Robert Flemming: I hope that the new tab format is coming along well for you. You make a good point about people not knowing their chords! Remember, if you get too frustrated, STOP!! Nobody ever said you had to do this (I know, it's your own anal-ness driving you). Good luck. To Mark: If this is a FAQ, flame me. But do you still send out the Misfits Bible in the summer? I don't recall if you've answered this before. Well, I've posted way too much once again. I hope everyone had or is having a great spring break! -Brent E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 18:27:08 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Spence Subject: the last Bible, dammit! Errr.. Netmail is confusing me. Anyways, I figured I finally reply to a bible finally. About the guitar music, what is there is fine. I've managed to figure out just about every song from what was written (thanks to whoever did it). My band covers a bunch of Misfits tunes now. Like Skulls, 138, Night of the Living Dead, Teenagers From Mars, Hollywood Babylon and more that I can't remember. Anyone else play in a band that does MiSfiTs songs? About lyrics, does anyone have the lyrics to 138 that are right? What I've got from listening just doesn't sound right. Sort of pertaining to the Misfits - Does anyone have any songs off of Black Flag's 'Damaged' tabbed? E-mail me... Tom Spence (tspence@cln.etc.bc.ca) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 00:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: crap, utter crap but first.....THE WHORES!!! (um, replies, sorry, geez the Kids in the Hall get into yer brain...) >From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 03:10:16 -0500 >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #62 >>Figures you come from AOL. Chaod. > >Geoff I agree with you, but do you have to shit on AOL because we got morons >like this?? CG, sorry to say, but with few exceptions (namely buddies of mine, my brother, Dischord Records, you, and Larry of Lookout! Records), the majority of people on AOL that I've come across _are_ morons. One thing about AOL is that it's opened a floodgate of people with access to the net. Unfortunately most of the ones who post to newsgroups, this list, whatever, are people of Lucifer18's stock, i.e. people who just wanna start flamewars and just blow people shit in general. Mind you, this is only an account of people that _I've_ come across. This is by no means saying that everyone on AOL are shitbags or anything. Maybe I should have worded it differently. Sorry *shrug*. >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 15:11:37 -0500 (EST) >From: Gabriel Palczewski >Subject: Buncho Stuff and this flame thing > >First to Lucifer18@aol.com and sestewar@vt.edu. No one wants to hear your >shit ok? If you guys don't like whats in the Bible post something >intelligent and some people misspell words while typing its a common >mistake that I make alot because I don't keep a dictionary around to >spell words. If you can't figure out what I said thats your problem. If >you think this is lame then write mail to msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu >and have yourself removed because I am already calling for that AOL geek >to be moved off the Bible. Maybe people missed something or weren't >around for all the Bibles and need a new question answered. Its not going >to kill anyone to answer it and I guesse fuck us if we like to help >someone out. OK, a few things on this. First, asking him to removed off the list is NOT gonna solve anything. He still could quite conceivably post to the list without being ON the list. Who's to say this twerp won't just attempt to terrorize us that way? Besides, removing someone from the list for just flaming people is, in my opinion, shady. We don't have to go through a screening process to subscribe, but at the same time that shouldn't mean that Mark should just nuke him. Best bet is to ignore him (but, as you will see below, I have a few things to say to him anyways. Do as I say...) Second, here is my soapbox about the list. Majority of people like the digest format. Fine. BUT, at the same time, if we went to a mail-out-as-posted frequency, like the majority of mailing lists, problems like LUCIFER18 could be solved by a simple thing called a KILLFILE. Most unix mailers are equipped with a method to write these. Digest formats don't really allow for that. Just a thought. >From: WARRIOR138@aol.com >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:38:09 -0500 >Subject: My own brother...... > >Allright, I'll admit that a lot of the bass stuff for the Misfits is pretty >easy to figure out. Probibly even easier if you have an amp that works. But >my own brother is the last person on earth i would have thought to flame me >on this one. Especially since he's been playing guitar for a few years >longer than ive been playing bass. He talks to me about figuring out songs, >but he cant even tune his guitar. GOTCHA!!!!! How many goddam times to I hafta say it, I CAN TUNE IT BUT I'M TONE DEAF AND IT SOUNDS LIKE CRAP ANYWAYS!!! Besides, I was lazy at the time, sue me :P OK, the fun part: >From: LUCIFER18@aol.com >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:39:58 -0500 >Subject: Lucifer II-Danzifuge > >Hey, geeks. I got some important things to say about the last "bible", >starting with..... oh this should be good >to: 00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu >Subject: yeah yeah right > >> Your post has to be the most worthless drivel I've read in a long >> long time. >Thank you for your support, Monkey-spank anytime, more where that came from. >> First of all, "King of Babylon?" Pfah. Know yer Bible before taking >>a reference from it. >Isiah XIV-ever heard of it, numb nuts? tellya what, the burden on proof's on you, why don't you quote it for me, mmm? >to: WARRIOR138@aol.com >Subject: the last bible > >>I noticed a lot of people are talking about Guitar tab and stuff like that >>for misfits songs, but howzabout some bass tab? i know more than one of us >>plays bass (me, Crimson Ghost, and probibly a few others), so lets get some >>up here. >I actually aggree with some people on this one. This "Warrior" geek needs to >grow some ears. Did Glenn have any tab when he wrote the stuff? No. You can >get by without it. OK, yer messin' with family now pricknose. >> Thats about all I have to say. >Good, maybe youll shut up then. nope. Believe me, I've tried to get him to shut up for years. ;) >back to Rodent, or whetever its name was- > >>Well geez Jim you went and woke me up one morining to show me >>how great it was that you learned the bass to "Green Hell," >>WITHOUT A TAB >Gee, and thats a real hard song, too. It must have taken you hours to figure >out all three notes. > >>why don't you just learn it the same way, _or_ do that and make up >>the tabs and post 'em? >I think this is getting a little repetative, dont you? > >> You didn't seem to have trouble w/ "Green Hell" >Like i said, repetativeness *snicker* Pot. Kettle. Black. >> . . . ah well, just a thought.... >Treat it kindly, its in a STRANGE place Huh? have we had a bit to much crack for breakfast? >>btw loved the guitar tabs, learning them now :) >btw I DONT REALLY CARE!!!!! {:O <---weasel at night hmmm.....3rd grade humor, can't get enough of it. >From: WARRIOR138@aol.com >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:07:49 -0500 >Subject: And another thing.... > >And to top it off, i just finished figuring out "Disconnect" by Rollins Band >after having the CD for just under 2 weeks, ok?anything else about me? I'll >get that lucifer guy on ya. Who is he, anyway? At first, I thought it was >CG, but decided against that. later Jim, if you think CG's LUCIFER, you have real poor deductive skills. Don't choose detective as a career, eh? FINALLY! a reply not about LUCIFER! >From: Ralph Herbert >Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 09:18:31 +0100 >Subject: Kill Your Baby cd, Verotik >The Kill Your Baby Today cd really is that cheap (in every sense of the word). >Around here, it sells for no more than DM 15. I still wouldn't buy it unless >you like your live-recordings all cut up. Other Misfits cds that are >definitely not worth the money are Horror Business and (*shudder*) Seven >Boots From Hell. Beware! Disagreed. HORROR BUSINESS is one of the cooler boots I own. BEWARE, live stuff, the "Walk Among the Dead" demos.....hey, I dig it..... OK, what else? Um....EVB, good luck with the Angels of the Seventh Dawn, and on a final note about Danzig not comin' to Indy, well, at least I'll be spared Marilyn MAnson. I know I'm in a vast (vocal) minority on them, but all I could think of when I saw them w/ NiN was that if I wasn't already such a huge Faith No More and GWAR fan I woulda dug a 3rd-rate clone band. Sorry, but I feel that they, in short, BLOW. Thank you. That's all. --- Geoff We@sel Tune in, turn on, drop dead ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 02:00:24 -0800 (PST) From: Cereal Killer Subject: N.A.M.T.A. convention? Crimson Ghost: CG, do you have any new information on the N.A.M.T.A. convention? Is it still being held in S.F.? (I am still interested in going, if it is.) Kris. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:13:08 +0300 (EET) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: .... > CrmsnGhost wrote : > Yes Glenzig did write the majority (if not all) of the songs.. the band > however wrote the majority of the music. Since you can't even hear what glenn > is singing on most of them I can't see how they could be a diference.. > hehehehe Yeah! I'm with you 100%! I agree and I was kinda hoping that Jerry and Doyle had written the music too (I wasn't sure) > kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) wrote : > Many people on the list have trashed Green Day for being sell outs. Hey WARRIOR, come and do your stuff. The G word is mentioned ;) > Bouras, Elizabeth wrote : > > (BTW Brent or anybody else - did anybody tape Henry Rollins on the Grammys? > I missed it & really want a copy of it - can trade Misfits videos!) I know someone who did. I'll ask her if she's interested and I'll give her your email add. so she can come back straight to you. (is that OK with you?) Anyway, what was so special about it? I saw (part of) it and didn't really think much of it. A small interview that followed the performance with Rollins, basically, not saying anything to the interviewer... now, that was good! > dorin@mailbox.mcs.com wrote : > > > I don't know if he'll look good but I think he will have one soon whether > > he likes it or not ;) > > why's would he have to have his head shaved? > > --Greg... 'Cause he's getting bald, that's why :) Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### 'Life is the only thing worth living for', stupid quote ### ### taken from an excellent song. ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Comments on #63 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:17:00 est Just a few comments this time 'round - no new news to report J.Baldry - I disagree with you on Pushead being "boring" - I personally think he's an incredible artist and the Kinghorse LP cover is one of his best pieces! (Actually I think it's the best thing about that album...) Out of curiosity who would you consider an "interesting" artist if he is so boring? (I ask being one to collect interesting art...) evan obrien - I was at the Roseland show with Kyuss!! It was in '92 tho, the '93 NYC show was at the Ritz in May.... Wish I could make Utica but I doubt it as I'm aiming for the last 10 or 11 in a row... Also, the FLIPSIDE CD set is a reissue - there is a MUCH earlier series of vinyl releases. Vol 1 has a live Undead song, Vol 2 has the live version of "Attitude". It also came with a photo collage poster that had a cool photo of the Misfits with Vampira. Deane Greenfield - was this Danzig show supposedly in Philly? I have been to all of them there since 1990 and NEVER heard anything like what your friend reports. Or at any other Danzig show (of the 60 I've been at) I would have remembered that. Are you sure this isn't just another untruth or rumor - they run rampant on the 'net! Ralph Herbert - First off, I object to your comment about coloring Faust "slapping stupid computer colors over artwork that was intended to be in bl/wh". No, it wasn't INTENDED that way, it's just a case of it is nearly impossible for a very small independent comic operation like Rebel to be able to afford color printing as it is hideously expensive. According to Vigil he would have loved to have seen it in color from the beginning but couldn't afford it & it was a case of bl & wh or not at all. Verotik has better financial resources for the printing. As for why Glenn is doing so much of the writing - he wasn't happy with how others were writing it. He'd originally hired David Quinn to write Satanika & then got really upset because David had changed so much of it (names of characters etc) and was trying to write it to sound like Neil Gaiman! So I think his attitude is more like "if I want it done right I'll do it myself". What do you mean like "leave this field to the real pros like Frank Miller, Paul Chadwick or John Byrne" Huh? Are you saying you don't want any new stuff in the comics field & just want the same proven writers/artists over & over? while I would argue their brilliance I have to say I personally am always looking for new & interesting stuff. HororHotel - yes the 'Fits were obscure when they were around (I was into "the scene" at the time & nevah heard of 'em then) but don't try and tell this crowd that or it will set them off again...... New addition for the discography - the other day I picked up a German import CD single for "Cantspeak" - # 74321 25799 2. Tracks are: Cantspeak (album version), Cantspeak (edit), Twist of Cain (live) and Dirty Black Summer (live). The live tracks were recorded at the last show of their last tour at the Seattle center 12/19/94 (I was there & it was a GREAT show so I'm so happy they used these tracks! I just wish they'd do a whole live album or better yet a video) Thanks to all that e-mailed me for info on the Marilyn Manson list - I'm still writing back to everybody as I got a TON of mail while I was away - great roadtrip, their shows were brilliant even tho the Columbia one turned into a fiasco when Monster Voodoo machine pulled some evil end of the tour stunts on them. And I even got to meet everybody & give Mr. Manson an incredibly cool Marilyn Manson hand painted lunch box (this is up there with the Danzig cookie tins) - ciao! - EVB ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:18:36 -0500 Subject: HELP!!!!!!!!! Anyone if you know what a Quicktime viewer is and where to get one, please e-mail me at CTernes.aol.com I NEED to see this Brand New God clip and I need a Quicktime viewer....PLEASE HELP. Anyone. Chris ------------------------------ From: She Subject: 63 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 10:52:04 EST J.Baldry@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk >I really wanna know if there is a Danzig specific list because the UK basically email american@american.recordings.com Subscribe Danzig your_address in the body. Something like that anyway... > > I was also thinking of this, it would be really cool for those of us who do > not have access to the rare stuff by the misfits if someone made a tape of > the b-sides and rare songs by the misfits and put all or a lot of them on a > 90 minute tape. we could then send that person blanks or postage $ (or both) > to get a hold of it. If you think it is a good idea, respond to me privately > and let me know what you think. obrien81@matrix.newpaltz.edu Otherwise, > post suggestions on the list. thanx. > I like that idea. As it is, almost every Misfits song, rare or not fits on a 100 minute tape. People are always asking me to make tapes, and it would be convenient if we just had a master tape of all the songs. All the songs from singles, and Return Of The Fly will fit easily onto one side of a tape like that, but that leaves the second side with nothing to put on. Maybe demos or a rare show or something... Deana Greenfield > > I have a friend in Philly who went to a Danzig concert some time ago > where she swears that Glenn said "You sure have a lot of niggers in this > city"...she said he proceeded to use the word nigger' through out the > concert. I was wondering if anyone out there knows of incidents like this one > and if this is a comman thing during Danzig concerts or what? Never heard anything of the sort. EVB, what do you think? Ralph! > you like your live-recordings all cut up. Other Misfits cds that are > definitely not worth the money are Horror Business and (*shudder*) Seven > Boots From Hell. Beware! What the hell is Seven Boots From Hell? Please tell me about it... This issue will be big.... mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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BEWARE AND REST CD for sale Pushead Kill Files & the like a message from JERRY same old.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WARRIOR138@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:08:57 -0500 Subject: Re: #1(2) Misfits Bible, #64 Hey guys, I just found out that tonight my girlfiend's sister is going to give me an autographed danzig poster. just thought I's mention that. later --WARRIOR ------------------------------ From: WARRIOR138@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:16:18 -0500 Subject: Re: #2(2) Misfits Bible, #64 THIS IS MY SECOND POST IN 10 MINUTES!!!! >> kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) wrote : > > Many people on the list have trashed Green Day for being >>sell outs. >Hey WARRIOR, come and do your stuff. The G word is mentioned ;) AWLLRIGHT!!! THATS ENOUGH!!!! Don't say GREEN DAY anymore!!! They were good for a cheap thrill over the summer, but looking back, they ROYALLY SUCK!!!! get over it!!! and ;SHUT UP ABOUT THOSE LITTLE CRACK HEADS!!!!! --the very calm warrior President, National Association of Fiends Against Green Day ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: happyboy Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:53:40 -0500 (EST) MISFITS COLLECTION OF RARITIES/B-SIDES TAPE... yeah! i wanna find the right people to put this proposed tape together, the comp of all the rare 'fits stuff, that is... i hope it works out well and gets the great music out to those who want it. respond privately: obrien81@matrix.newpaltz.edu thanx for the support from those who wrote about it, and FUCKOFF to lucifer, the keyboard creamer, shut yer fuggin' trap! MIsFITS MIsFITS MIsFITS! "can't have no ugly dead" (watch, I bet I misquoted...) evan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:40:18 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Glenn's British Hate/Tape I think Glenn's hate for the british stems from him being thrown in jail in Britan after getting into a fight with some skinheads which suprised me cuz Glenn being so small I thought he'd get his clock cleaned. Anyhow he wrote "London Dungeon" in there and on the 2 live versions i have on it he rips on the british he also says in many interviews he hates british punk and new wave stuff. Glenn also didn't seem to like the west coast punk in its day except for Black Flag. Also I think the tape idea would be cool. Maybe if we could all chip in a little for those who want one we could make it pretty nice looking and have it just for the people on the Bible. If you are looking for some of the rare songs look on like the vinyl bootlegs like RETURN OF THE FLY or like differnt demos and such cuz they have pretty good sound quality and are usually 4 - 10 bucks at the most. I have the RETURN OF THE FLY bootleg which is cool cuz it has "Last Caress" and the original Cough/Cool version of "She" on it plus there are also easy to find vinyl bootlegs of some of the singles and EP's. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:51:30 -0600 (CST) From: Deana Greenfield Subject: incident in Philly? maybe i got the place wrong i know it was in penn. though...or maybe the person just wanted to make me angry.... but thanx anyway Elizabeth and Mark for replying... deana ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 17:20:35 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Spence Subject: misfits Mark - about the tape of all the Misfits singles, how about using the one you made for me? I'll make a copy of it for anyone who wants it.. It has all of the singles on it, some live stuff, and a bunch of demos. And I saw the Chrimson Ghost skull thing on this TV show called Northwood, a lame CBC 'cynical generation X drama.' Some skateboarder kid was running around trying to buy some acid, and he was wearing the black and white Misfits skull shirt. Does anyone know how to get onto the punk mailing list? Tom (tspence@cln.etc.bc.ca) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:42:02 +0300 (EET) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: Misfits dates?????? Hmmm, nothing to comment on... Anyway, I asked before and I'll ask again : Somebody mentioned something about Misfits tour dates.. Is that true?? And if it is, are there any European ones?? Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### 'Load up on drugs and kill your friends' K.C ### ### ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:25:44 -0500 From: chris vomit Subject: BEWARE AND REST CD for sale Flipping through my other bible, Maximum Rock'n'Roll, I found an ad for a mailorder place that has MISFITS "Beware and the Rest" CD FOR $18 ("Add $3 for 1st class postage" - this might mean that without the $3 they will send it 4th class book rate, or it might mean you MUST pay the $3 - it is not clear in the ad). I've never ordered from this place, so I have no idea how promptly they fill orders. Here's the facts: SOUND IDEA DISTRIBUTION 3421 S.E. MICANOPY TER. STUART, FL 34997 MINIMUM ORDER $10 *PAYMENT TO BOB SUREN* (NOT Sound Idea) If you're confused about postage, I'd either write for a catalog (send a stamp probably), or just pay the $3 to be sure. Since it's a boot, make sure you tell them to send you your $ back if they're sold out (many places will give you credit or make you choose alternates if you don't specify). I'm assuming they take cash, checks or money order (payable to Bob Suren), but don't quote me on that.....chris vomit. ------------------------------ From: dorin@Mailbox.mcs.com Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 18:14:02 Subject: Pushead About this pushead being boring... Yes, he is a good artist...but i have to agree that he gets boring. It's all skulls...nothing more.. I still like him though, especially the Misfits pic. BTW, I heard that the pushead Misfits pic is for We Bite...is it so? --Greg-- ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 22:08:14 -0500 Subject: Kill Files & the like Okay Fiends, Let's get a few things straight around here. The reason we cannot send the bible out in single post format is that; Mark is a college student and on limited budget. The program he has simply takes mail that we send him and if it was sent to misfits@UVA.... then it simply strips the header info and places it in an outbound box. Nice and simple, however, he *cannot* do it any other way but Digest format. This has been good enough for the last year I suspect it will be good enough for some time to come. Now on the bright side RE: Lucifer18@Assholes on the Loose (AOL): this makes it *very* simple to boot him off the list. Since this list is nothi ng more than Mark's own forwarded mail compiled into one package, all Mark would have to do is institute a "Kill File" to ignore all mail from him. See Lucifer you really don't know all that much! I have persuaded mark to let Lucifer stay on the list until such time as #1) He redeems himself, at which time we would have no problem with him being on in the first place. or #2) We have a majority vote of the people who actually post to this list. To just remove him would be eating into all of our rights and exersising to much of the "Big Brother" mentality for my tastes personally. btw: only people on AOL would know this but people on AOL have the option of posting a profile. A breif blurb about yourseld basically. Well I took the time to read Lucifer18's It reminded me of somebody else's that somebody else is a member of this list now. He also joined the list under a different name and under that original name sort of talked like Lucifer. Does anyone know who I may be refering to?? +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 22:09:27 -0500 Subject: a message from JERRY This is a message Jerry handed me today and asked me to post: It is regarding the Web page Lyrics:--------C.G. >From this point on it is Jerry talking: Although I did not proof these....I will !! I will compare all lyrics and music notation, this will not be 100% accurate.. When I finish my homework I will come On-Line to say Hi. To prove myself true I have sent some quickies, American Nightmare & Halloween II.......J.Only AMERICAN NIGHTMARE Hot cherry on fire and it'll suck it down my spine I put an axe in my baby's head I'm gonna end up doing time She looks so good in red American nightmare running scared I shoulda let her go I shoulda let hold of her I shoulda let hold of her, babe I had to split your head American nighmare running scared I'm headin' down the highway sign has 3 inverted nines If the lord don't get me the devil will but not without a fight Does this highway ever fuckin' end American nightmare running scared I'm headin' down the highway sign has 3 inverted nines If the lord don't get me the devil will but not without a fight Does this highway ever fuckin' end American nightmare running scared Hey, American nightmare running scared HALLOWEEN II The lyrics to Halloween II that you have posted on the Web page seem to be correct - I just have this to add: >From a conversation I had with Glenn, I was told that this was a Prayer or chant used to transform a wolf back to a man. & Vice Versa Thus: ----->Werewolf (Metamorphoses Lycanthropie) ----->Man (Possant Inquam) The above was brought to you from Jerry Only, AKA: Moe the Great. I will be able to post many tidbits like this in the coming weeks so pay attention everybody. Thanks for reading and I hope you enjoyed reading as much as I enjoyed typing-------The Crimson Ghost +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: same old.... Date: Thu, 16 Mar 95 08:51:00 est Hullo again.... What's up? Not much here (i.e. I haven't gone anywhere in two days) but I'm making plans for the Danzig tour (again). Decided against Red Bank NJ once I found out the place is reserved seating which sucks, so instead I'm heading to Columbus, OH on 4/18 for my first foray this tour - I remember SOMEBODY from this list wrote me to ask if I'd be going there & now I can't find their e-mail (sorry... I get a LOT of it) so if it's you let me know! But I got my tickets for the Newport already ; the other east coast shows haven't gone on sale yet but I keep checking. Would love to meet up with anybody who's going to ones I'll be at!! (all from Wilkes Barre to Orlando plus the Columbus one) And please folks, stop e-mailing me wanting backstage passes! Most of the time I'm not there anyway & Glenn seldom hangs there after the show - if you want to meet him, 95% of the time he showers, changes & heads RIGHT out to the tour bus where he will sit in the front and sign everybody's stuff (just don't insult him by bringing any bootlegged crap) The only time this doesn't happen is when the cops are total assholes and won't let anybody stay in the area. Uh... I made a hideous typo in #64 in my response to Ralph Herbert & just wanted to say that what I MEANT to say is that I WOULDN'T argue the brilliance of Frank Miller, Paul Chadwick and John Byrne. Left out a couple of characters & it said totally the wrong thing - sorry! (Like I've said before, I'm a lousy proofreader) No insult intended to three of the gods of comicdom..... Brent & Yannis - Have a line on the Rollins Grammy tape but thanks anyway!!! Tom Spence - for lyrics check Mark's web page (URL at the end of every bible) If you don't have Web access let me know & I can e-mail 'em to ya. Geoff We@sel - agree that a non-digest form would allow for a KILLFILE if you can make one (with some mailers ya can't) - still I HIGHLY prefer we keep the digest form - I belong to a couple other mailing lists that aren't & it turns into too much mail; it's easier to deal with one big piece o' mail twice a week than dozens of tiny ones. (Meanwhile I think we should all just ignore Mr. Lucifer and maybe he'll just go away - all he wants is attention I think. Some people would rather get a negative reaction than nothing at all) bye for now, EVB "fail to see the tragic, turning into magic" Reverend M. Manson **************************************************************************** ***** ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is available at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 66 Tuesday, March 21st 1995 Today's Topics: Finally... Misfits Rarity Tape Update on Verotik tape & pushead AOL people American Nightmare Last Caress Hello Fellow Misfits Maniacs! IT'S COMING DOWN Re: 64 and 65 Re: Danzig Vs. One-Armed Drummers Glenn Danzig - The Mighty Aryan Warrior! Re: The band's fed up... misfits and ABC Cool Trick! Re: Glenn printing FAUST in color Re: Misfits Bible, #64 Re: Misfits Bible, #65 tape progress Chamber of Chills #19 Re: Misfits Bible, #64 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 21:06:48 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Finally... Hey Fiends, Wow - finally an issue like old times (Lucifer-free, I might add)!! Now we are making some progress. Nobody's posts were boring and were all well worth the read - good job. Thanks to the Crimson Ghost, the bringer of Jerry's words, etc. About the tape idea - if somebody out there has all of the rare stuff etc. and decides to get this thing going, I'd be more than willing to help out in any way possible with duplicating and mailing. Also, if you really want to make the tapes aesthetically pleasing (you know - cool looking), I can definitely help here with my paint pens and the xerox machine downstairs. Maybe make a custom cassette sleeve or something... Just remember that the only costs involved should be for the blank tape and the shipping, otherwise it's illegal as hell and pretty stupid considering Jerry reads the Bible. I wish I could make the tape, but I don't have some of the boots...sorry. Let's get this thing going! Keep up the intelligent posts - Brent E. ------------------------------ From: Ralph Herbert Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 09:08:19 +0100 In mb63, Deana Greenfield wrote: > I have a friend in Philly who went to a Danzig concert some time ago > where she swears that Glenn said "You sure have a lot of niggers in this > city"...she said he proceeded to use the word nigger' through out the > concert. I was wondering if anyone out there knows of incidents like this one > and if this is a comman thing during Danzig concerts or what? If Glenn were a racist, would he consider going on tour with...BODY COUNT??? No kidding. On the Danzig '92 european tour, Body Count were announced as "very special guest" at two of the german shows. Too bad it didn't happen because Ice-T cancelled his whole european tour at the last minute. A lot of people were pissed since they had bought tickets only to see everybody's favorite public enemy #1. To Mark: The Misfits - Seven Boots From Hell cd is the worst rip-off I've seen so far. Apart from 3 or 4 songs from the singles, all others are taken from the official lps. There are even some Samhain songs on it (also taken from the official lps). Maybe it wouldn't be sooooo bad if the bootleggers had taken better care of their records. At least there's a nice crimson ghost picture on the cd. To EVB: Ok, I was wrong about Tim Vigil. I don't mind newcomers, but wouldn't it be more reasonable for a total newcomer to start with one title instead of THREE? Ok, maybe his work will prove me wrong once (if) it comes out. So far, Satanika #1 is already 4 months late. Not very professional. ralph ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 09:42:00 GMT From: W Mathias Subject: Misfits Rarity Tape Hey fellow fiends... While I am very interested in obtaining such a tape, I am suprised nobody has brought up the word 'copyright' in all of this. OK, so there are 1000's of Misfits boots out there, but it doesn't make this tape any less illegal. At least I think it would probably be illegal anyway. Having said that, if anyone would like to make such a tape for me, I would be *most* grateful. I do not have much 'fits stuff at the moment, so I cannot trade anything, but I'm sure we can come to some sort of arrangement (I'll buy you a drink :) Email me privately, thanx : scm3wm@cm.cf.ac.uk On another matter, have any European/UK dates been announced yet for DANZIG? Cheers all Wayne ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Update on Verotik Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 09:00:00 est Finally some word on Glenn's publishing company Verotik! SATANIKA #1 is finally out and in the stores - just picked it up yesterday. Verotik has moved and their new address/ phone # is as follows: Verotik 11684 Ventura Blvd, Suite 798 Studio City, CA 91604 1-800-215-4532 They are also offering mail order on all their products so if you are having difficult finding them you can order them directly. Here's a listing of what they offered for sale in the back of Satanika #1: Verotika #1 $5.00 Verotika #2 $2.95 Satanika #1 $4.00 Satanika #2 $2.95 Jaguar God #1 $2.95 Death Dealer #1 $5.95 Phantom Lady $9.95 Alphabet of Murder $4.95 Frank Frazetta's Illustrations Arcanum $29.95 Verotik T shirt $17.00 Satanika T shirt $17.00 It said that T shirts will be available in March & are 100% black cotton, available in sizes L & XL Obviously some of these titles haven't been issued yet ( Verotika #2, Satanika #2, Death Dealer #1, Jaguar God #1) so I don't know if ordering them would hold up your order or they would ship them when they became available. Add $2.00 S&H for first book & $1 for each additional. Also the order form in Satanika contains a line to sign off on stating that the buyer is at least 18 years old as these are mature titles & I'm sure they don't want to get sued by some irate parent so include a statement to that effect as well. I hope this helps as I know many of you have been asking where you could order them from! - EVB ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: tape & pushead Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 16:53:39 MEZ as far as pushead's art goes, it's definitely NOT all skulls. you probably haven't seen any of his more recent work. he is trying to experiment more into graphix/design stuff, experimenting with colors, etc etc. definitely non-boring. about the "best of tape": i have made a DAT tape with all the 7"s, b sides etc. i can update it with anything you want and send it to anyone who can make regular tapes from it. that would probably be the best solution, sound-wise. i can't do the tapes myself cuz i don't have the time right now, plus it would be too expensive to send all the tapes to the u.s. so, does anyone on the list have a dat player? flex ------------------------------ From: Misfits15@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 17:30:07 -0500 Subject: AOL people Sure, AOL has some smartass dicks like Lucifer18 (well, first you have to be smart to be a smartass, so maybe it's an overstatement), bu there are some people who don't act like total assholes (i.e. CTernes, MikeMoll, SamhainXXX), so just keep in mind that we're not all jerk-offs. Thanx for keeping an open mind (my mother always says "If you can't say something nice-Don't say anyting at all.") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 15:13:29 -0800 From: Ricky Hinojos Subject: American Nightmare heading down the highway sign has three inverted nines if the lord don't get me the devil will but not without a fight... That is something straight off a Johnny Cash record. =) I bet that some people think that Route 666 was made up only because it was the evil sounding "highway to Hell". I think the song is about Henry Lee Lucas and his buttbuddy (what's his name?). Apparently, Lucas and his bud went on a deadly roadtrip through the US in the sixties(?), and killed upwards of 300 people, or so they claim. They were convicted for 13 of the murders. Or, at least that's what I got out of the Answer Me! compilation. Answer me! is a fanzine that features really screwed up articles, including Anton LaVey, NAMBLA, a list of the top 100 murderers (including Lucas), a list of the top 100 suicides, and other really jacked up stuff. The compilation can be found in some bookstores. If you can't find it, and you'd like to see it, I can get the address for you. Lollipop Ryq ------------------------------ From: Daniel Adams Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 19:31:43 -800 Subject: Last Caress I was just wondering if anyone could post maybe a 20 second clip from "Last Caress". I'm having a bitch of a time trying to find a copy of the BEWARE EP. Much appreciated. ------------------------------ From: Danzig4192@aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 18:11:17 -0500 Subject: Hello Fellow Misfits Maniacs! I just found out about the newsletter so I thought I'd post and say hello....I am a big fan of Misfits/Samhain/Danzig..I even bought Kryst the Conquerer's first CD (still have it...don't listen to it much though...yikes)..I have a couple decent rarities on vinyl but most of my live bootleg stuff is from the Misfits CD compilations I do like Pushead..but I like Giger better Later on Danzig4192@aol.com ------------------------------ From: ASmetek@aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 23:40:57 -0500 Subject: IT'S COMING DOWN I'm kinda new here and I'd like to know how to get my hands on a copy of the ORIGINAL version of the video "It's Coming Down" with all of that...uh...um...SHIT goin on. I'd also like to know if the Misfits really made a video for "Braineaters" and where I could get a copy of that. -A ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: 64 and 65 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 95 3:36:40 EST From: ElSlayer@aol.com > > Anyways, can someone tell me the style of playing jerry only used (how he > picked, what gauge pick he used, and if he is actually doing all i said > above...) Back in the old days Jerry used a heavy pick with Rotosound Round Wounds and he picked downstrokes all the way. brent: > To Mark: If this is a FAQ, flame me. But do you still send out the Misfits > Bible in the summer? I don't recall if you've answered this before. As if I'd ever waste my time flaming someone. This is an interesting question that hasn't come up this year. Last year I asked and everybody pretended that they would be doing email over the summer, but it ended up being just me and the crimson ghost sending mail back and forth. Of course, those were the days when I thought 18 people on the mailing list was a lot. Now we have more than 10 times that amount. So, basically it can go on over the summer if everybody wants. Gabriel Palczewski > > I think Glenn's hate for the british stems from him being thrown > in jail in Britan after getting into a fight with some skinheads which > suprised me cuz Glenn being so small I thought he'd get his clock > cleaned. Anyhow he wrote "London Dungeon" in there and on the 2 live > versions i have on it he rips on the british he also says in many > interviews he hates british punk and new wave stuff. Glenn also didn't > seem to like the west coast punk in its day except for Black Flag. Yep, you've got it. > Tom Spence > > Mark - about the tape of all the Misfits singles, how about using the one > you made for me? I'll make a copy of it for anyone who wants it.. It has > all of the singles on it, some live stuff, and a bunch of demos. This sounds good. If you don't mind doing it, then that's great. > NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi > > Anyway, I asked before and I'll ask again : Somebody mentioned > something about Misfits tour dates.. Is that true?? And if it is, > are there any European ones?? Somebody was mistaken. Those were Danzig tour dates, not Misfits dates. Here's some interesting stuff from the Danzig newsgroup: From: "Brett W. McCoy" Subject: Re: Danzig Vs. One-Armed Drummers Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 12:48:16 -0500 Get the current issue of Metal Edge. Glenn explains, in response to a reader's letter, that they were all getting lunch, and the guys from Def Leppard were strutting their stuff around, and Glenn was trying to get through, and said something like "Excuse me, can I get through", and they ignored him after a couple of requests, and he finally said "Can I get the fuck through!?!?", and then things started heating up, with him and a couple of his guys up against about 30 DL guys. Nothing came to blows, according to Glenn. He thinks people are making a bigger deal out than necessary. Brett W. McCoy | "Go not to the Elves for counsel, bmccoy@capaccess.org | for they will say Minstrel, Mage, Sage, Wooer of Women, | both no and yes" and General Friend of All Nature... | -- JRR Tolkien From: ridley@nucleus.com (Steve Ridley) Subject: Glenn Danzig - The Mighty Aryan Warrior! Date: 16 Mar 1995 03:12:01 GMT Here is something for all you Glenn Danzig fans! GLENN DANZIG had done several interviews in music magazines to promote his new album: Danzig 4. That in itself is nothing surprising, but what is surprising is the fact that Glenn came out in support of the White Race in those interviews. In one magazine he said "Everybody is concerned about the black plight and the hispanic plight, why isn't anybody concerned about the White plight? White people experience a very real type of oppression that manifests itself in some very distinct ways." Glenn feels so strongly about this that he even went to the point of writing a song entitled "White Devil Rise" where he takes on the Nation of Islam and modern black-White Racial relations. But don't look for the song on the new album. Although it was supposed to appear on the new release, Danzig's record company decided to release it on a seperate EP. It should be hot when it comes out. That little excerpt was taken from RESISTANCE MAGAZINE, Issue 3, Winter, 1995. So well, just thought that you might like to know about that. Any comments/flames/insults/it's-not-true statments should be directed to me at ridley@nucleus.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When I was young and our town was strong and the dogs in the factories thrived, pride burned in our hearts and our eyes, heads high, we all organized. Then one by one the factories went, the dock gates they, stayed shut, the town became a shallow grave that ripped out all its guts." - Prole. Steve Ridley ridley@nucleus.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: The band's fed up... Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 11:49:02 -0500 From: SLAYER It seems like Glenn's band is getting sick of his tyranny, or so says Eerie. He was in my friend's record store, Off The Record in San Diego, last month talking shit about Glenn. As the story goes, Glenn makes them workout ritualistically, stay out of the sun(to keep there clammy palid color), and now wants to take an even bigger cut of the cash. His reasoning behind the cash deal is that Glenn writes the music, its his band, he deserves at least half. The other half will be split three ways. Bunch of crap if you ask me. Well I guess we will see if this affects them. Eerie said Chuck bailed partially cause of this shit... who's next. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 01:46:50 -0600 (CST) From: maripuri sandeep Subject: misfits and ABC hey just wanted to add another sighting to the growing list i dont know if this is going to be redundant but last week i think on tuesday night on the abc nightly news they did this piece about teenage gambling and they were interviewing a guy wearing a die die die my darling tshirt... ------------------------------ From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 11:07:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Cool Trick! I found a cool trick, which you all probably already know about. Here's how it works: Get the Samhain CD with Final Descent/Unholy Passion. Between the last two tracks (Misery Tomb, I am Misery) There is a 3 second space. Turn your stereo all the way up during this space, and you will hear BLACK DREAM. The paer that says "Cradle lifeless bodies in the bosom of your hell, Pretty Pretty blackdream" Listen good, it's there. Sean M. ------------------------------ From: pcm2@netcom.com (Neil McAllister) Subject: Re: Glenn printing FAUST in color Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 14:26:12 -0800 (PST) Whether Tim Vigil wanted FAUST to be in color from the get-go or not, the fact remains that they couldn't afford it and the decision was made to do the comic in black and white. Drawing art for a black and white comic book and doing art which is intended to be in color are two different things, and require very different approaches. Once you head down one path you can't really go back. For instance, look at the colorized reprints of Mark Schultz's XENOZOIC TALES that Marvel published under the title CADILLACS AND DINOSAURS several years ago; they looked like shit compared to the black and white originals, because the art was just not intended to be printed in color, and wasn't drawn with color kept in mind. I think, with all the noodling and craftint board and zipatone in FAUST, printing it in color will do nothing but screw it up. -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@netcom.com) | Santa Cruz, California, USA "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." -- Ben Kenobi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 20:22:12 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #64 >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 11:49:54 -0500 >From: bloodboy >Subject: NINcomDORK > >OK, tough guy, I'm ready when you are. And in reference to baby babble, >what was all that gibberish cluttering up your ignorant shit-talking >message? Name the place you bantering idiotic neandrathal. When I'm done with you, you're name will be pussboy. (that's puss as in the puss that's gonna be comin' out of all of your orafices and some new ones that i'm gonna make!) ++++++++++++++++NINcompoop+++++++++++++++ \/\/e |-|ate |_ove ***** \/\/e |_ove |-|ate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 20:22:13 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #65 >From: WARRIOR138@aol.com >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:16:18 -0500 >Subject: Re: #2(2) Misfits Bible, #64 > >THIS IS MY SECOND POST IN 10 MINUTES!!!! > >>> kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) wrote : >> > Many people on the list have trashed Green Day for being >>sell >outs. > >>Hey WARRIOR, come and do your stuff. The G word is mentioned ;) > >AWLLRIGHT!!! THATS ENOUGH!!!! Don't say GREEN DAY anymore!!! They were >good for a cheap thrill over the summer, but looking back, they ROYALLY >SUCK!!!! get over it!!! and ;SHUT UP ABOUT THOSE LITTLE CRACK HEADS!!!!! um, i don't remember saying that i ever liked green day. ++++++++++++++++NINcompoop+++++++++++++++ \/\/e |-|ate |_ove ***** \/\/e |_ove |-|ate ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: tape progress Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 21:15:18 -0500 (EST) hi, i just wanted to thank stewart and alexandra for helping me get along the way towards collecting some older, more rare stuff. i am very much looking forward to getting the tapes. Thanks, Alex!!! later, evan ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Chamber of Chills #19 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 08:48:00 est I am one happy camper - after YEARS of searching I have finally found a copy of my most hotly desired comic book - "Chamber of Chills #19", a Harvey horror comic from the early 1950's. And what's so special about this one, you might ask? It's where the Misfits got the cover for "DIE DIE MY DARLING" from! (Stole the whole thing....) I can't believe I finally found it! (It's not that rare, just really obscure!) Now to file it next to "Crystal Crystal Warrior #8" (where Glenn got the Danzig skull from) Hehehehe... - EVB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 17:12:53 -0500 (EST) From: stephen alan sisson Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #64 Oh yea- When i was in pittsburgh last week my friend out there was talking to me about the misfits bible.. he said he hardly read it anymore because it was too much stuff to digest all at once... Personally, my email reader's really easy to deal with so it's no big deal, but he's got to use a modem and scroll thru every line of each bible. Any chance of upgrading the Bible to daily status if the verbage keeps up this big pace? Just wondering.... later STeve ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing addres is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 67 Thursday, March 23rd 1995 Today's Topics: Glenn Danzig's Comic book store appearance He wants HALF?? Bootleg tape Again...more rumors? Verotik Eerie gone??? MISFITS TAPE-B-SIDES early misfits video bootlegs Videos Last issue tape and pushead.. Further re: White Aryan Warrior DOA and Chuck Biscuits just a few comments ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 13:08:11 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Siegel Subject: Glenn Danzig's Comic book store appearance Last sunday, Glenn was at a comic book store on Melrose in Hollywood signing stuff to celbrate his comic book releases. I got Verotica #2 and he signed it. I brought a whole bunch of shit, but I didn't intend on getting him to sign it all. He saw that I had other stuff and he offered to sign everything as long as there weren't any bootlegs. He signed my evilive, die die my darling, and Earth ad records and my How the Gods Kill vid and the new poster from the Rolling Stone thing where he's wearing those weird wings in a swamp type place. It was the first time he'd seen it. I asked him if he'd be doing the movie and he said that if they ever gave him a script and that the movie co. was really screwed up right now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 17:29:39 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: He wants HALF?? Ha Ha Ha, I just read the post in #66 about how Eerie was overheard in the record store talking about Glenn's money hungry attitude. So little Glenny-pooh thinks he deserves HALF of all the band's profit?? This is so rediculous. I know that in previous issues, I have supported Glenn and his "cheapskate attitude" to a certain extent, but that was only in regards to his EXPANDING into other mediums. If Eerie really said this stuff, then I must say to hell with Glenn over this. If anything, the band should be getting paid more because they have to put up with all of Glenn's seemingly rediculous requests concerning how to live their lives. I guess Glenn just doesn't understand the chemistry involved in keeping a band happy and productive. Why does Glenn seem to be SO driven by the allmighty dollar? It's sickening. Well, my hat is off to Eerie Von, for putting up with Glenn for so friggin' long as well as John Christ, who could *probably* write better songs than Glenn any day (if Glenn would allow him...). That reminds me, is John's solo project out already? I remember reading that he's been doing scores for commercials as well as a solo album. I just haven't heard anything since. If so, how does it sound? Also, I was wondering if Jerry has anything to say about Eerie's little ramble in the record store (Crimson Ghost??). And finally to Mark - about the summer thing, my dad has AOL back at my house, so you can count me in on writing over the summer. It would be just a matter of changing addresses.... Later Fiends - Brent E. P.S. - In this corner...BLOODBOY!! And in this corner...THE NINCOMPOOP!! Place your bets!!!! I've got Bloodboy as the odds on favorite. ------------------------------ From: Misfits15@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 17:40:25 -0500 Subject: Bootleg tape I think it sounds like a good idea. I have a tape that I made myself (well, there are two of them as of now), with a picture of Glenn in either Danzig or Samhain as the cover. It has the Return of the Fly bootleg, Necronomicon (or whatever it is called) Live and outtake, a bunch of live songs from a bunch of different shows, RATTFINK, the instrumental that evolved into Queen Wasp, Queen Wasp, and Danzig doing 2 songs live in a 1988 bootleg and 1 in a 1992 live bootleg. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 17:06:26 -0600 (CST) From: Belle Wood Subject: Again...more rumors? I've already posted this message once on the newsgroup, but I hope it bears repeating. Haven't we had enough rumors? I am responding to whomever wrote the post about Eerie and Off the Record. Some of you may have already heard this sermon. First of all, for someone who is made to work out religiously, Eerie sure is thin. I understand that being tall and naturally thin inhibits muscle growth somewhat, but I still don't think Eerie spends that much time in the gym, especially since his unfortunate back injury, which would prohibit not only a variety of exercises, but also any heavy lifting. Joey is rather muscular, but as far as I can tell, that muscle was in place long before he came into Glenn's world. Now, as for making them all dye their hair black, well, aren't we forgetting Chuck? Chuck was rather blond, I believe. Not a black hair in sight on that man, except for...well maybe...never mind. And Joey, being of, I believe, Hispanic ancestry (and I could be wrong, as no one seems to have any biographical information on him), it kind of goes to figure that he would have dark hair, as he is naturally dark complected. That leaves us with John. Ah yes, the true enigma of the group, the one whom no one really has a clue about. :) Why does John work out and dye his hair black? I haven't a clue, although I wish I did. Perhaps he wants a healthy body and dark hair? No, I didn't think that could *possibly* be the answer. Maybe Glenn does make them dye their hair, and work out. And? Where does it go from there? Are they going to leave? Are they that fed up? Who is that going to hurt? Glenn will go on, always and forever. There is almost nothing he can't do, and no, I don't believe he is "God". He is, however, highly charismatic, and he will always be able to put something together. If you've read this far, I appreciate your attention. I hope I haven't wasted your time. Belle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 19:48:02 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Verotik Well, I just picked up Verotika #2 today and Satanika #1 today. (They didn't have Verotika #1 though...) Satanika's story was done by Mr. Danzing and was painfully similar to a Faust/Nightvision/Vengence of Vampirella comic (which happen to be some of my favorite comics!) and was an enjoyable read. If anyone has any idea when Death Dealer or Jaguar God come out, please tell! Frazetta's cover art is amazing, and I think Glenn Danzig has a hand in both those... Not much in music today, sorry... -=* Eric Snook *=- The University of Michigan "snook@umich.edu" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 20:08:46 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Eerie gone??? Eerie left Danzig? And if so I am extreamly shocked. They have been together since the Misfits days and were the foundation for Samhain and Danzig. This shocks me greatly. ------------------------------ From: CarolK7993@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 01:51:40 -0500 Subject: MISFITS TAPE-B-SIDES Cool........This is my first post in the bible. About the Misfits tape trade, I have done it and it has some diffrent versions of songs and some good quality live songs from boots. ALL SONGS WERE MIXED IN A STUDIO ON A HIGH TECH SOUND BOARD!!!!!! Some of the songs are: COUGH COOL......LAST CARESS.........SHE.......WE ARE 138.......QUEEN WASP(INSTRAMENTAL VERSION)......HALLOWEEN 1&2!!!! And the live songs are LONDON DUNGEON..........BULLET...........WE BITE...........20 EYES and others. The Tape is just under 60 mins. It comes in a case with some cool pictures in it. The tapes called " The Misfits........DEMON BLOODSEEDS" and you can order it by sending $$3.00 in cash or money order to: Misfits: DEEMON BLOODSEEDS 3535 N. 152ND CIR Omaha NE. 68116 ALL TAPES ARE GUARENTEED AND AS SOON AS I GET YOU'RE MONEY ORDER I WILL SEND IT OUT TO YOU!!!!!!!! THE $3.00 IS FOR POSTAGE AND THE TAPE COST. THIS IS A LIMITED TAPE OFFER. I ONLY MADE 20 OF THEM!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS NOT A RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: PumroyKJ98%CS28%USAFA@cadetmail3.usafa.af.mil Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 00:17:12 MST Subject: early misfits hi, I've finally heard cough/cool and she (thanks EVB!). Anyway, I'm curious if anybody knows why it is that Glenn had his first single with no guitar and used electric piano, then used guitar always from then on (except maybe theme for a jackal, can't remember). Did he want guitar all along or did he change his mind after releasing Cough/Cool?? I like the electric piano sound although it's pretty different. Also, does anybody else notice the complete difference between the drumming styles of Manny (first misfits drummer) and all the rest Glenn used? Manny definitely (at least in my opinion) is heavily jazz influenced (listen to accents and use of cymbals). listening to these two songs leaves me with the impression that Danzig was going for more of a jazz sound at first then changed paths to a punkish sound. Does anybody agree with me on this and if so have any theories for the change? I personally would have liked to see more rhythm like Manny played (by the way, what's he done since the misfits?) Hope I'm not asking any dumb questions here. Oh, one more thing. can somebody tell me if the Misfits ever played anything off Earth AD live? Nothing live from them I've ever seen has had anything off it. What's the reason for this if they didn't? I was under the impression that it was out before the Misfits broke up (then again I'm no expert). thanks Pum (the guy who has the worst luck on earth seeing Danzig shows) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 10:54:25 -0500 From: She Subject: video bootlegs I know a lot of you out there have video bootlegs of Misfits, Samhain, and Danzig shows and I was wondering if you could send me the song listings and any other info you might have. I am trying to finish the video section of the discographies and for Samhain and Danzig I don't have any track listings, only dates. I believe I have completed the Misfits section, but am far from it for the other bands. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mark ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: Videos Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:05:58 -0500 (EST) hi i just thought i would mention that as of recently, i got the uncensored version of the Danzig vid for "It's Coming Down". I must say it is pretty interesting. Lots of graphic shots of male genitalia. And, yes, there was a video made by the Misfits for "Braineaters". It's pretty funny, too. I am happy to see all this attention the rarities tape is getting. I will post as soon as I get my stuff together and have a concrete idea as to what i can do. On the topic of copyrights, it's not as though i am asking for copies of the new Danzig cd to be distributed on a large scale basis, that i would understand as a copyright problem, but making dubs of old, nearly impossible to find stuff does not seem like a bad thing to be doing. The way i look at it is, well they aren't about to go release one of those stupid "out of the vault" albums so that those few songs can be splattered across the pop record stores of america, only to be made into something of no value, so why not get them on our own? oh, well, whatever. i am hoping this does not spawn a lot of chatter. i just want more misfits, that's all. "you just can't slow things down..." "make it seem like suicide" - evan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:54:02 -0500 From: She Subject: Last issue as always, just responding: Brent Christopher Eyestone > > Hey Fiends, > remember that the only costs involved should be for the blank tape and the > shipping, otherwise it's illegal as hell and pretty stupid considering Jerry > reads the Bible. I wish I could make the tape, but I don't have some of the > boots...sorry. Let's get this thing going! Hmm, yep, sounds cool. But, I don't think it's that big of a deal, legally. Everyone makes tapes all the time, and Jerry himself is very big on eliminating the $100 7" singles. He wants everyone to be able to hear the music without spending mega$$$ and that's why a lot of cool stuff is going to be released in the future. Also, here's something he once said about bootlegs (FeH, issue 12, fall '94). it was something like this: "i don't give a shit about them, they only help me...." WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu > Get the Samhain CD with Final Descent/Unholy Passion. Between the > last two tracks (Misery Tomb, I am Misery) There is a 3 second space. Turn > your stereo all the way up during this space, and you will hear BLACK DREAM. > The paer that says "Cradle lifeless bodies in the bosom of your hell, Pretty > Pretty blackdream" Listen good, it's there. The explanation for this is simple. Notice that the song Misery Tomb is just bass and yelling. If you play the song itself really loud you'll be able to hear I Am Misery playing very low without the yelling. Misery Tomb is just the bass/yelling track they used for I Am Misery, and that's exactly how they got it, by playing the unfinished track in the background. Now, why Black Dream was also playing later, is a mystery, someone in the studio was listening to it. The above described process also explains why in you hear Glenn say "Mommy [long pause] can I go out and kill tonight" twice during the break in the studio version of Mommy. Anyway, see you all next issue I guess. Hey EVB, Tim Crenshaw from prodigy says thanks for the video stuff you sent.... mark ------------------------------ From: dorin@mailbox.mcs.com Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:48:52 Subject: tape and pushead.. Who does this tape go to if or when it's made...and what of the cover? drawn or photo? ...don't wanna brag, but i'm a good artist (hint hint) I haven't seen new pushead, but where would i find some of it? and yes, Gieger is better.. --Greg ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 01:07:24 -0500 Subject: Further re: White Aryan Warrior I read an interview recently wherein Glenn was allegedly quoted as saying the following: "I've listened to and read just about everything that's been said about us. Some of it has been fair, and some of it has been rather ridiculous. I've heard that I'm some sort of racist just because I state that I'm proud of being white. I've never said anything against the Blacks or Hispanics, and I certainly mean them no harm. But why should I be criticized for stating pride in what I am. Somebody must speak up for the white man in the country." Sounds reasonable to me.....comments? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 22:30:27 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Spence Subject: DOA and Chuck Biscuits If anyone ever wants to hear Chuck Biscuits' greatest work, buy DOA's Greatest Sh*ts. It's his first band (I think) and he even sings on a song called 'want some bondage.' It's worth checking out. Tom (tspence@cln.etc.bc.ca) ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: just a few comments Date: Thu, 23 Mar 95 09:20:00 est RE: MBible #65 RE: Crimson Ghost/Message from jerry - Please thank Jerry for me for sending in to the Bible - his comments are very much appreciated! I'm thrilled that he'll proof the web page lyrics so we can finally have definitive 'fits lyrics!! Regarding "Halloween II" - it's most definitely a lycanthrophy spell.... I translated it all out a few years back and I'll have to hunt for the exact translation as I don't want to do it again (4 years of Latin and I still suck at it). Anyway, one line "Possunt Inquam" really threw me because it's a weird inverted tense. Well, I stumbled into that exact line in Montague Summer's book "'The Werewolf" and Summers translates it as: "I affirm that they so can be changed". And yes, this is the same book that Glenn points out in the end of the first Danzig home video - I was a little surprized I didn't find the whole thing in there... hehehe. (It scared me how many of those books I already have - my shelves look VERY similar...) RE: MBible #66 Ralph Herbert - Good comment to Deana regarding Body Count. Danzig also toured briefly with another rap act, Proper Grounds for the first part of the Thrall tour in '93. Satanika #1 is out - I've heard Verotika #2 is out (apparently they were selling it at the Golden Apple signing that Glenn did last weekend) and hopefully will come in to the stores here this week (takes a bit to filter thru distributors). At least there are so very valid reasons why the Verotik stuff has been late before 1) first printer rejected Verotika #1 because of the contents & they had to find another printer 2) their offices moved from Roseville (outside of Sacramento) to Granada Hills (nearer to LA and where Glenn lives) and 3) they changed editorship. Hopefully now that all of this is straightened out they will be able to get on schedule. Ricky Hinojos - yup, Route 666 is a real interstate that runs through Arizona. Just don't try and find a route sign for a souvenir though as they've all been pulled up already. My best friend drove down 100 miles of it searching for one and the only one still standing had the bolts so badly fucked from previous removal attempts that she couldn't work it loose.... Answer Me sounds interesting, how about the address? ASmetek - yup, the Braineaters video exists - it's only a minute long though but it has the 'fits and their friends sitting at a table while a chef enters & starts ladeling out brains on everybody's plates.... Mark - YES we want the bible during the summer. At least I do - hopefully there's enough of us "year round" net residents to keep it going then! I'd REALLY miss it if it was shut down for a while (sniff!) That's all for now folks.... EVB ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing addres is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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RE: White Aryan Warrior 3/24/95 manny, "the unholy trinity",etc. MISFITS Re: Misfits Bible, #68 Halloween II translation samhain videos/braineaters video stuff Minutia Misfits! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 13:21:50 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: Just some comments First of all, I'd like to say that *I LIKE GREEN DAY* and have liked them for a long time, so fuck you to everyone that slams on them (NOTE: THE PRECEDING IS NOT INTENDED TO PROVOKE STUPID CONTROVERSY, THANK YOU). Hell, I never thought they would get as big as they did. However, it shows the stupidity of Warner Brothers for signing them because they won't last long as a trend with the general public. So I guess Warner Brothers will feel stupid eventually for signing a silly pop-punk band. But I will not dwell on Green Day, since this is the Misfits Bible. I just wanted to throw my opinion into the ring seeing as so many other people have some big problem with their success. Anyway, on to the Misfits, some good points were brought up regarding early Misfits stuff and the obvious change to a more "punk" sound. I've often wondered about this myself. Perhaps the band thought they would have more success if they jumped on the punk bandwagon of the early 80's. I don't know; but the older stuff is a lot more unique sounding and I think I'd have to say that I enjoy it more overall than the faster punk stuff. What does everyone else think? As to the influence of the first drummer, I really don't know how much he had to do with the sound but I guess it's possible. Finally, I'd just like to say that the last few bibles have been a lot more like they used to be. It's a pleasant return to a more peaceful, friendly bible and let's hope it stays that way. bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 13:26:54 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Danzig + Joey As for Joey Castillo's race it is hispanic. All of Sugartooth, his former band are hispanic. My friend is a big Sugartooth fan and Joe had black hair and muscles prior to Danzig. Also I don't think that Glenn influences the band that much. Chuck's hair was more of a light brown and at one point wasn't even long and he didn't have a beard either like Glenn's band members. Even if Von took off Glenn would have little trouble finding himself a replacement. Hell I bet he could dump his whole band and get a new one together in no time. I think him wanting half is a tad steep but i think he should get payed more then his band mates because Glenn is the driving force behind Danzig and John has admitted to himself that "Its not my band." and he accepts its Glenn's band which it is. If the rest of the band can't then they can leave. Glenn could make stars out of nobodys. Remember John Christ wasn't that known until Glenn grabbed him and if Glenn never befriended Eerie he would be a virtual unknowner. They owe Glenn something and should stop complaining and realize why the band is named DANZIG. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 13:38:25 -0500 From: She Subject: A complaint Hello fiends. I have a general complaint. If you're going to unsubscribe or lose your account, please let me know so I can take you off the list. I'ts kind of annoying to get all these bounced messages. The most recent offenders are pholden@u.washington.edu and Fiend@world.std.com. Often, it's hard to tell if there was an error with the mailer or if the reciever's mailbox was full, but after several occurrences, I always remove the subscriber. So please just let me know. It only takes one short message. Mark ------------------------------ From: She Subject: sixty-seven Date: Thu, 23 Mar 95 13:50:27 EST PumroyKJ98%CS28%USAFA@cadetmail3.usafa.af.mil > > hi, > > I've finally heard cough/cool and she (thanks EVB!). Anyway, I'm > curious if anybody knows why it is that Glenn had his first single with no > guitar and used electric piano, then used guitar always from then on > (except maybe theme for a jackal, can't remember). Did he want guitar all > along or did he change his mind after releasing Cough/Cool?? I like the > electric piano sound although it's pretty different. The first 7" was more experimental. It was more like 3 guys saying "Wow, we have a band and can make records." Right after that Jerry cut his hair and they all started getting the punk look and singing about horror movies. > Also, does anybody else notice the complete difference between the > drumming styles of Manny (first misfits drummer) and all the rest Glenn > used? Manny definitely (at least in my opinion) is heavily jazz influenced > (listen to accents and use of cymbals). listening to these two songs > leaves me with the impression that Danzig was going for more of a jazz > sound at first then changed paths to a punkish sound. Does anybody agree > with me on this and if so have any theories for the change? I personally > would have liked to see more rhythm like Manny played (by the way, what's > he done since the misfits?) Hope I'm not asking any dumb questions here. Actually, Manny was one of the only drummers they were familiar with. Jerry and Glenn met through Manny. He had gone to high school and actually graduated with Mr. Jim, their next drummer. The first 2 lineups - Glenn, Jerry, Manny - and then - Glenn, Jerry, Franche, Mr. Jim - were entirely made up of guys from Lodi High School. After they had exhausted the Lodi scene, they had to turn to guys from New York - Joey, Bobby, Arthur. Manny is certainly a jazz drummer and that's why they kicked him out of the band. They didn't want someone who wanted to do all kinds of drum trickery and drum solos because they wanted the punk sound. After the Misfits, Manny basically disappeared. None of those guys have heard from him in years. Apparently in 1990 he showed up on Danzig's tour bus. Elizabeth can shed some more light on that story.... Anyway, I like his style, and Mr. Jim's a lot better than any of the later drummers. Those 2 guys were good. Listen to Come Back. Mr. Jim's drumming kicks ass. > Oh, one more thing. can somebody tell me if the Misfits ever > played anything off Earth AD live? Nothing live from them I've ever seen > has had anything off it. What's the reason for this if they didn't? I > was under the impression that it was out before the Misfits broke up (then > again I'm no expert). thanks They played lots of the songs live, in fact I'm sure I've heard almost all of them on different bootlegs. Queen Wasp was a song they were doing as early as 1981 and all the songs they did play live, they played before the album ever came out because it was released after they broke up. It was completely recorded, and the cover and back cover art was done, but it came out after they broke up. They had been talking about it for months and months before it was recorded. those were good questions.... mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:00:06 -0500 (EST) From: Alexandra Gerber Subject: Hey there fiends ;) I have a couple of questions/comments, so here goes: 1)About Henry Lee Lucas- if you're at all interested in Lucas, check out "Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer". It's not particularly accurate, although it is based on his life. There's a pretty good biography of him in Joel Norris's book "Serial Killers". And if you like true crime stuff, check out the 'zine Murder Can Be Fun. It's a really cool 'zine. 2)I'd be perfectly willing to participate in helping to make a tape. And if you wait a couple of months and I could probably even make a cool comp-graphics cover with the hardware I'm planning on purchasing... ;) 3)We all know how Glenn feels about boots, but seeing as how Jerry apparently reads this group occassionally, how does he and/or any of the other old 'Fits feel about them? 4)I may be completely dense, but who exactly is Crimson Ghost (the one who posts here)? Sorry if this is a stupid question. Why can't I get some guts????? Alex ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: bible over the summer Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:47:31 -0500 (EST) mark, i'm gonna be up here over the summer so at least you have a few more people for the list -- -= Paul Hahn =- "...I'm not stupid... Hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu I'm a man..." Fatima Mansions ------------------------------ From: WARRIOR138@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:54:46 -0500 Subject: BOOTLEG TAPE THINGAMAGIGGER Well, I already got ya all beat to do this one. a few months back, I made "Glenn's Greatest" 1 and 2. its got lots o' stuff from all 3 bands, and "You and Me" from Less Than Zero. they're pretty good tapes if I do say so myself... --WARRIOR ------------------------------ From: WARRIOR138@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 15:14:56 -0500 Subject: DOA >If anyone ever wants to hear Chuck Biscuits' greatest work, buy > DOA'sGreatest Sh*ts. It's his first band (I think) and he even sings >on a song called 'want some bondage.' It's worth checking out. Or, you could also get "Bloodied but Unbowed" The disk also has "War on 45" I got it at Best Buy for like $10.00 and its a good disk. Really long. > The above described process also explains why in you hear Glenn >say "Mommy [long pause] can I go out and kill tonight" twice during >the break in the studio version of Mommy. That's funny. I always mistook that for just an echo. Maybe I was wrong, maybe you were wrong. Mayby we both were wrong. Who really cares, anyway? its just a record.... --WARRIOR One way or another Now or later Go down and worship the true creator ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 15:18:26 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #67 >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 17:29:39 -0500 >From: Brent Christopher Eyestone >Subject: He wants HALF?? >P.S. - In this corner...BLOODBOY!! And in this corner...THE NINCOMPOOP!! >Place your bets!!!! I've got Bloodboy as the odds on favorite. Nah, I've got the odds in my favor. bloodboy talks out of his ass too much. > >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 17:06:26 -0600 (CST) >From: Belle Wood >Subject: Again...more rumors? > Now, as for making them all dye their hair black, well, aren't we >forgetting Chuck? Chuck was rather blond, I believe. Not a black hair in >sight on that man, except for...well maybe...never mind. ah, but chuck did dye his hair black. check the sleeve for danzig 4p. To PUM: > Oh, one more thing. can somebody tell me if the Misfits ever >played anything off Earth AD live? Nothing live from them I've ever seen >has had anything off it. What's the reason for this if they didn't? I >was under the impression that it was out before the Misfits broke up (then >again I'm no expert). thanks > >Pum (the guy who has the worst luck on earth seeing Danzig shows) More than half of the Misfits boots that I've seen or heard have Earth AD stuff on them. ++++++++++++++++NINcompoop+++++++++++++++ \/\/e |-|ate |_ove ***** \/\/e |_ove |-|ate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 17:21:02 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Alan Subject: live Misfits sets... That person who asked if the Misfits ever played anything off A.D. live made me begin to wonder which songs off the singles and other old stuff the Misfits actually DID play live. (To answer the question- christ, yes, they played Earth AD and Queen Wasp a bunch, and I believe Demonomania was an old staple of their set.. We Bite and Mommy were also regulars, if you count those) At any rate, I have heard that "Live! 79! The Perfect Crime!" has a live version of the elusive Children in Heat (I would LOVE to hear that live recording someday)... and I remember Bobby Steele said in a MRR interview that the first song he played live with the Misfits was Static Age (or TV Casualty? Maybe both.. i forget)... So how much of the old stuff DID they do when the Misfits were young? Anybody got ahold of any set lists prior to Doyle's arrival in the band? (Before Bobby, even?) I just wonder if there are any songs they NEVER did live... I suppose stuff like Theme for a Jackal, Hollywood Babylon, and Come Back.. how about She? I heard that Danzig (the Band) played that once in their first year of touring. Did the Misfits ever play Cough/Cool live? who knows? I sure don't!!! Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: tapes & pushead Date: Fri, 24 Mar 95 0:21:27 MEZ uh... there seem to be a lot of people who want to make that tape. i am just offering my help. i can do the dat tape (or a regular one) and send it to anyone in the u.s. who can then make a sleeve for it and copy it for other people. i guess we should agree on somebody to do it. i won't fight to do it :) but i CAN do it... about pushead: yeah, you'd probably have a hard time finding his new work as it's mostly distributed via pushead club... and sure, giger is better. c'mon, it's like comparing da vinci to warhol. giger is a "serious" artist. pushead is an underground artist. flex ------------------------------ From: Rocky_Saenz@baylor.edu Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 10:37:12 +0000 Subject: gd isn't a misfit does anybody know if the misfits tour is going to happen, and if so does anybody know the dates? why do you think that danzig refused to do the misfits tour? -could it be that he does not like to admit that the misfits were actually successful or is it just foolish pride??- what do you think? ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: #'s 67 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 12:28:52 -0500 (EST) After reading the most recent bible, i was suprised to see how many people badmouthed glenn. I personally don't listen to danzig, but it is his band. if he wants half the profits, more power to him. how many people would come to see the band if he wasn't in it? if john, or eerie, are mad about how danzig runs danzig, thatn do solo. the band has his name on it. most people on this list would give a limb to play with him. while on the subject of sellouts, my roommate made a comment i thought was funny, he said fugazi was a dopehead band, and how much ian must love that. i was wondering how glenn, or anyone feels, about the fact that people listen to his music because its popular, rather than actually liking it for something, like it makes you fell happy, sad, ect. or just like the style, or the man. -- -= Paul Hahn =- "...I'm not stupid... Hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu I'm a man..." Fatima Mansions ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 15:03:10 -0800 From: Ricky Hinojos Subject: Answer Me! This mag is filled with hate. Interviews with Anton LaVey, a NAMBLA member (no pun intended), and other hatemongers. Articles on racism and more hate. Pictures of hate. Get the drift? Also (in two separate issues) the top 100 suicides and serial killers/mass murderers. The first three issues have been put into one lovely compilation. More information can be received by contacting: Goad to Hell Enterprises PO Box 31009 Portland, OR 97231 (503) 283-8829 or: goad2hell@aol.com Hey, they're on a budget, okay? The compilation is $13, but is worth it. It's approx. 300 pages of hate, hate, hate! Have a nice day. Lollipop Ryq ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 12:38:37 -0800 (PST) From: HOWARD ELLAK Subject: RE: White Aryan Warrior As far as Glenn's alleged statements on the white man in America go, I just wonder why we care. I mean, he's not a politician or a theorist or anything--though he is an extremely talented musician. If his potentially racist ideas are not apparent in his music, then I wish he would just not share them and no one would interview him on the subject. That way we could all just lose ourselves in his music... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 21:29:42 -0800 (PST) From: Cereal Killer Subject: 3/24/95 It was my first time seeing KORN, but I enjoyed their set. The lead singer is wild. Sometimes he reminded me of Mr. Manson (Marilyn Manson). They were having some problems with the microphone in the beginning, but it was still a pretty cool show. Marilyn Manson sounded great. Unfortunately, they were only allowed to do about 9 songs. One of the songs is the intro Revelation #9, so that doesn't even count. Danzig was great, as always. I'd have to admit that I was distracted by the pit sometimes. Instead of looking at the stage, I found myself watching the people going wild in the pit. I don't really want to spoil the surprise for all you people who haven't seen the show yet, but they performed "cantspeak" and "i don't mind the pain". :) Before doing "cantspeak", Glenn told the crowd that this is "just a test". And before doing "i don't mind the pain", Glenn said, "We're going to have to do this some time, so we might as well do it." Glenn introduced "stalker song" saying, "This is for all you sick f*ckers out there, you know who you are." The following was the set list for the show. They began and ended the show with Overture of the Rebel Angels, from Black Aria. Brand New God Little Whip Until You Call on the Dark Her Black Wings Devil's Plaything How the Gods Kill Do You Wear the Mark Dirty Black Summer It's Coming Down Cantspeak Going Down to Die I Don't Mind the Pain Stalker Song Mother Twist of Cain Bringer of Death And the encores for this show were: She Rides Snakes of Christ Am I Demon As for the merchandise, the t-shirts were mostly the same as last time, except with the new tour cities on back. One new item is a pendant of the Yin and Yang design from inside the 4p album, which they're selling for $10. Glenn was wearing one on stage. Oh yeah, Glenn was wearing a black see-through longsleeve underneath a short black sleeveless shirt. It was so short that you could see his belly button everytime he'd raise his arms up, and when he'd crouch down with his back turned to the audience, you could see his Devil Man tattoo. BTW, they were also selling Verotik stuff at the show. They had a Verotik shirt for $20, and Verotika #1, #2, Satanika #1, and Phantom Lady. Verotika #1 was being sold for $10, so for all you people who can't find it in your comics shops you better bring plenty of money with you, if you want to get it at the show. After the show, we waited about an hour and a half before Glenn, Eerie, and John showed up. I didn't see Joey, I don't know if he was out there too. I was able to get Eerie's autograph, but I wasn't able to catch John before he left. Glenn was very nice. He was out there for quite a while, just signing things, chatting, and graciously taking pictures with people. Kris. ------------------------------ From: Eevile@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 01:15:37 -0500 Subject: manny, "the unholy trinity",etc. i agree with the guy who said manny was very jazzy. i recently got "beware and the rest" and thought the same thing. i think one reason metallica's version of last caress didn't sound as good because the drums weren't the same. (much use of cymbals in misfits version, i think it was mr.jim on the misfits version though, but the point is they aren't quite the same) also am i the only one who refers to danzig/samhain/misfits as "the unholy trinity"? is that corny? oh, yeah if you ever come across "beware and the rest" its pretty cool some stuff is straight of the old vinals though so it's not the best quality but it won't scratch and it don't cost $100's (got mine for about $30.) thanks if you've read this far. e-mail me at: eevile@aol.com. or just eevile (i think the first one is how you do it not on aol?!) thanks again! Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: Evilive@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 14:37:53 -0500 Subject: MISFITS Hey, This is my first post and i am new to this bible thing. Its pretty cool, before I joined this thing I new shit about the Misfits, the only thing I ever new was that Glenn was in it. I was reading the last bible where Eerie was complaining about Glenn wanting more money. I think Glenn is a real shithead sometimes. He doesnt want anyone else to write any music and he wants all the money. I like Danzig, but I think Danzig would be a hell of alot better if there was some input from John, Eerie, and Chuck(oopps, i mean Joey). Glenn should stop proving he has the biggest dick and let other people into the spot light. And about that tape thing. That would be FUCKING COOL to have a tape of all the Misfits shit. I agree with Pum in that Glenn started off more jazzy than punkish. But I have no fucking idea why he changed to punk. Also im pissed at people calling Glenn a racist. if a white man is proud of being white, then he is a klansmen, if a black man is proud of being black, he's everything but a racist. I agree with Glenn when he said "Somebody must speak up for the white man in this country." EVB: Please find that translation to Halloween II, I took Latin for a year but dont know shit. Id like to know what he is saying in a language I understand. Thatz all, Evilive "I aint no goddamn son of a bitch......" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 12:47:19 PST From: ebossick@nero.UVic.CA (Eric Bossick) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #68 Satinika and Verotika have been banned in Canada. The government here is so fucking lame. I'm wondering if anyone could mail me the issues up, we can work something out. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:27:49 -0500 From: She Subject: Halloween II translation Fiends, all this shit is on the page if you'd just look: HALLOWEEN II ------------ Formulae ueteres exorsismorum et excommunicationum Strigas et fictos lupos credere Daemon pellem lupinam In trunco quodam cauae Arboris occultandum Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, Halloween Metamorphoses lycanthropie Possunt inquam Metamorphoses lycanthropie Possunt inquam Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, Halloween ----- The above is nonstandard Latin. It is supposed to be a prayer or chant to transform a man to a werewolf and vice versa. Translation: "Ancient formulas of exorcisms and excommunications that witches and those made wolves believe. I maim now the demon clothed in wolfskin; Having to hide in the hollow of a tree. I believe that they so can be changed." -----Copyright 1981 Hellbent Music ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 14:12:08 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Nelson" Subject: samhain videos/braineaters video i was just wondering if anyone had their hands on a good samhain video. i have been looking for one for about three years now and have only found one that was pretty bad. it was from the november tour and was in an old warehouse. the problem was that there was a pole in the way and it was hard to see the band. if anyone one has any info i would apreciate it if they could e-mail me (dmnelson@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu) and see if we could make a trade (i have a huge selection of misfits shit). also i was just wondering if that was robo as the cook in the braineaters video? it just looks like him....i don't know. thanx much angelfuck dmnelson@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:13:32 -0500 (EST) From: andrew r dixon Subject: stuff hello everyone, first i would like to tell you all about a 'fits sighting. hopefully it is a new one and i am not being redundant. i was looking in the inlet cards on the Minor Threat tape and on the far left side are small pictures of each band member. on the top picture of the guitarist there is barely visable someones t-shirt with the crimson ghost on it. i dont think it is in the dicography. i feel the same way glenn does about the white race. i am in no way racist, but i feel that the white man does sometimes get the short end of the stick when it comes to race related issues. heres a funny little story - a couple friends and i were in camelot music looking around. i guess the mohawks and all gave away that we were punks and this man in his thirties in a dress shirt and tie comes up to us. he tells us that he grew up in new jersey then moved to maryland. he saw the misfits a number of times (as well as the circle jerks, black flag,etc.) and that his sister lived with John Christ for a while. just thought i'd tell you. cheers, Andychrist ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:43:43 -0500 Subject: Minutia 1. Does anyone know what Glenn is saying on "Do You Wear the Mark" at about the 3 min. 44 sec. point in the song? (according to my CD player) I was listening to it through earphones and it really leaped out. I can only make out the second part, which sounds like "...I can give you all I catch", and is probably totally wrong. 2. What does the tattoo on GD's lower back say? I've read that it's in Japanese. As I can read Japanese (at least hiragana and katakana--the tat doesn't look like kanji), I've always been curious but have never been able to see it well enough in any photos. As an aside, whenever I hear "Hollywood Babylon" I always think of the story in Kenneth Anger's book about Jayne Mansfield--she of the mountainous mammaries--and her untimely death by decapitation when her car ploughed into the back of a semi-truck. Pretty gruesome! As for K. Anger, did Jimmy Page do the music score for "Lucifer Rising"? Perhaps EVB can answer that one. (sorry, I know that last question isn't related to the bible) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 21:16:37 -0600 (CST) From: Linda S Rogers Subject: Misfits! I've got two Misfits imports from Europe. One is a double CD called "Demonomania Club" which has three live shows on it (Detroit, Oct. 29, 1983; Urving Plaza, New York, March 27, 1982; New Jersey, X-mas, 1981) During all three versions of 'Lundon Dungeons' Glenn curses the British pretty harshly, on the first one he says "Fuck the British....the British suck, fuck those limey cunts over in England....they cans suck my ass..." I detect some definate animosity here. Some of the songs on this one are played very fast, faster than the versions on each songs respective albums. This brings me to my other import called "Beyone Evil - Demos and Outtakes 1977-1980" It is a CD of very good quality. Most of the songs are slower than their releases on 'Legacy of Brutality,' 'Earth AD', and 'Walk Among Us.' Glenn really sings his heart out on them, not so much yelling involved. Anyone else have these imports? I had to shell out some serious dough for these, especially the 2-CD live one! Well worth it though. In one of the recent Bibles someone mentioned seeing a kid on the news wearing a 'Die, Die, My Darling' shirt, which reminds me of a kid I saw a year or two ago on the news wearing a Misfits shirt as well. Ironically, he wasn't on the news for teenage gambling, but instead because he and two of his friends robbed and then killed his grandmother. I believe it was in Florida that this occured. Speaking of 'Die, Die, My Darling", I'm in a band (The Phreeks) and me and one of my buddies, the singer, plan on doing this song. When we play it live we're gonna dedicate it to OJ Simpson. Kinda sick, I know, but read the lyrics.... it's definately his song, don't you think? Whoever asked about Eerie leaving Danzig better go back and reread that other Misfits Bible, because he misread it. As far as Glenn being a racist, I doubt it. It'd be pretty ironic considering he has so much Blues influence in his music. As well as the fact that some of his security at concerts have been Black in the past. Who would trust their lives to someone they hated? That wouldn't make much sense. I'm seeing Danzig in Fargo, ND, on April 13th. 'should be awesome. As unlikely as it may be, I hope they play a Misfits tune or two! That'd be cool to see (and hear). Later Fiends, Rob Here's another quote or two from that import of mine...(since I'm listening to it right now and all...) "Hey, shut up! The Misfits is the best fucking band in the world! And I wanna thank them for coming to California" - some guy at the concert "Thanks a lot, we payed that fucking kid twenty dollars." - Glenn Danzig ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing addres is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Tuesday stuff from 68 BRAND NEW EVIL About what Glenn... comments, ideas, festivals..... bobby mother I'm BAAAAAAAAAAAACK various RE: Bible #68 - Devilman & other stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:22:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Danzig Sightings Hey, Sean M here, Being as how you're all sighting the Misfits logos on tv and stuff, I thought I'd join in. I haven't seen one logo on tv or anywhere, (prolly 'cause I don't watch much TV) But I have noticed a coupla' Danzig references here and there. The last one was the Homicide episode where the kid bashed his grandparents to death with a lacrosse mallet. His alibi at one time was that he was in his room listening to Danzig really loud, and didn't hear them screaming. The second "reference" is a good one. Look on the first Jackyl CD. (If you have it) in the group shots of the band that adorn the back cover and CD, among the junk and stuff on their wall hangs an autographed picture of Danzig. You have to look close, but it's there. Also wasn't there supposed to be a Crimson Ghost face in an Iron Maiden Video? To the guy with the unknown live boot where Glenn goes off on British, ("they can suck my ass...etc.") and has the kid say the misfits is the best Fuckin' band in the world, you have the Al's Bar show 4/17/82, I believe. Sean M(isfit) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:48:57 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Plater Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #68 > From: flex > Subject: tapes & pushead > Date: Fri, 24 Mar 95 0:21:27 MEZ > > uh... there seem to be a lot of people who want to make that tape. > i am just offering my help. i can do the dat tape (or a regular one) > and send it to anyone in the u.s. who can then make a sleeve for it > and copy it for other people. > i guess we should agree on somebody to do it. i won't fight to do it :) > but i CAN do it... > I might be able to do a sleve, but the quality would be much better if you made ALL the tapes from the DAT. I have access to a scanner and could get some cool stuph. Only problem is I only have a b/w laser printer, so no colour sleves, but I could scan some stuff and do it that way. I also have a few bootleg tapes that have some neat covers. I do not have time to do copying of tapes, in fact I don't know if I'd have time to do the covers. I'll give it a try though. Chuck Plater Student Consultant, Wayne State University ---------------------------------- "She lies and thinks she's in |cplater@pass.wayne.edu | love with him, can't find a |platerca@applelink.apple.com | better man" PJ, Betterman |Cplater@scil.pass.wayne.edu | ---------------------------------- CS/MU -d+ H++ s+:+ g- p? au a- w++ v* C++++ US++ P? L 3 E--- N+++ K- W-- M++ V po-- T+ t+++ !5 j- R G? tv+ b++ D+ B-- e+ u+ h!* f r n---- y+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 14:06:10 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #68 >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:00:06 -0500 (EST) >From: Alexandra Gerber >Subject: Hey there fiends ;) > >I have a couple of questions/comments, so here goes: > >1)About Henry Lee Lucas- if you're at all interested in Lucas, check out >"Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer". It's not particularly accurate, >although it is based on his life. There's a pretty good biography of him >in Joel Norris's book "Serial Killers". And if you like true crime >stuff, check out the 'zine Murder Can Be Fun. It's a really cool 'zine. > Check out NIN's Broken long form video. This is a home video very similar= to that of "Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer". NINcompoop >From: Rocky_Saenz@baylor.edu >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 10:37:12 +0000 >Subject: gd isn't a misfit > > does anybody know if the misfits tour is going to happen, and if so does >anybody know the dates? > >why do you think that danzig refused to do the misfits tour? > >-could it be that he does not like to admit that the misfits were actually >successful or is it just foolish pride??- > >what do you think? > Why should he do the tour? He's busy doing his own stuff. He's composing= for another instrumental album, he's on tour, he's gotta run a comic book= company, and he's probably thinking of stuff for Danzig 5. What could he= possibly gain from doing this tour. Most of the people who like the= Misfits, think that Glenn was the biggest asshole ever to belong to the= band (I don't feel that way). It just wouldn't make any since, plus there's a lot of legal stuff he would= probably have to go through unless Ruck Ruben is really as cool as he's= supposed to be. NINcompoop ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 14:46:24 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Attention fiends... ATTENTION ALL FIENDS!!! After numerous posts concerning tape trees and the like, I can announce that we now have BOTH a master video and an audio cassette that contain all sorts of rare goodies - already geared up for dubbing for the members of the Misfits Bible! Yes indeed, from the private collection of the lovely EVB, and featuring artwork by yours truly, these fine artifacts can be yours! Getcher copies today!! Seriously folks, for those of you who want to get your hands on some rare, out of print material, this is by far your best chance. EVB owns pretty much everything ever done by our favorite New Jersey garage band and I have accepted the responsibility of dubbing and distributing it to all loyal fiends. If our hero Glenn so much as farted near a microphone, chances are that it's on the tape, which contains all the rare singles plus live tracks etc. (and all under 90 minutes!). The video collection is just astonishing as far as quality, clarity, and rarity. And wait 'til you see the new, custom xerox-covers! So don't be left out! Here is how you go about getting your copy of either or both: FOR THE VIDEO: *Send a T120 VHS video cassette to my address + $3.00 S&H. *OR Send $6.00 (covers tape + shipping) FOR THE CASSETTE: *Send a 90-minute cassette plus at least $1.00 for shipping (more for priority) *OR Send $2 or $3, so on.. (covers tape/shipping, no matter how much you send - it all goes right back to you through either a more expensive tape or better shipping or both) ATTENTION: READ THIS!! The audio tape is available for immediate shipment, BUT the VIDEOS will be shipped *AFTER* MAY 7, 1995. So either hold your horses or be prepared to wait until then. Also, in order to prevent any legal problems, these tapes are being distributed on a non-profit basis and are intended solely for the private use of members of the Misfits Bible. Blah, blah, blah. So, if you are interested, then please send tapes and/or money to: Brent Eyestone 509 Tener Hall University Park, Pa 16802 (prior to May 1) After May 1, send it all to: Brent Eyestone 2005 Monitor Dr. Stafford, VA 22554 Questions? Write: bce104@psu.edu or call:(814)862-6250 Thanks again, everybody............Brent E. P.S. - Lucifer-asshole, DON'T EVEN BOTHER!!! ------------------------------ From: DarkLo730@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 14:50:50 -0500 Subject: PUNK I think the big difference between punk today and punk in the 70's and early 80's was that it was about doing your own thing and having your own sound not cloning bands in really obvious ways like Green Day or the Offspring. mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 15:38:22 -0700 (MST) From: "Jorn Staensbak" <77452@ef.ev.maricopa.edu> Subject: Danzig stuff in tv/movies etc Yesterday I went to see "candyman-Farewell to the flesh", and I noticed one little thing... On the little boy's (Matthew, i think his name was) drawing pad, they had put a lot of stickers with skulls, etc on it, BUT there's one little skull I noticed more than the others. The Misfits skull was on there, but you could just see it for less than a second. This is a movie that Danzig fans would go to ( Horror movie, you know... ) This scene is towards the end of the movie, when Matthew's father shows Annie( the lead character) Matthews drawing Studio. It's not a spoiler for those who haven't seen it yet, so ... GO SEE IT. It's good, even if it's kinda slow in the beginning. And Clive Barker wrote the original story for the first movie, and I think he wrote the story for this too. Well, I just wanted to share that with you( I think I saw the misfits skull in a tv-movie a couple of years ago too... The lead character was somewhat of a "wannabe" rebel, so she wore a faded mosfits t-shirt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * 77452@ef.ev.maricopa.edu ----^\| _>_<_ |/^---- JornStensbak * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 95 16:33:57 EST From: G Subject: Sam Hain 7" I saw a Samhain 7" today, entitled '85-'86, Live and Demos. Knowing nothing about them, I was wondering if this was worth picking up. Thanks, G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 16:17:13 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Read This Please + Other Wee! Ok I made some direct responses here... Rocky_Sanez@baylor.edu Glenn isn't tour for the fact Jerry and Doyle probably don't want him to. hahnpaul@landshark.msu.edu Right on. It is his band and he does deserve more then the others though I feel half is high because his band members do play. Glenn is the center of the band because the band is his molded image. The songs, music, everything is his trademark to say. EHOWARD@scripps.claremont.edu I think calling Glenn a racist is rather dull witted. Just because he disagrees with a militant extreamist black person or races that are not his own he is a racist? No. I think people need to wise up a little. And so what if he isnt a pollitician. Look at rappers or the dead ones (RIP Eazy-E boo hoo). They preach pollitical crap and "how it is da hood" all the time and they are muscians if you can call them that. More like babbling retards if you ask me. Also I got the Continental Crawler promo 7". If your into punk or what the Misfits were and anything thats cool.... then don't waste your time. Its 70's happy shit. I listend to side 1 and could stand no more of it. Also as for the Misfits sound, I think they always were punk but just changes their punk sound thats all. Also I think it would be interesting to know just what were like Glenn and Jerry's backgrounds in Lodi. Like what were they like in school, were they smart, dumb, hoodlums and what of Glenn's musical knowledge. He obviously is quite smart and what do their parents think of all this. I just think it would make for an interesting biography or Misfits history. ------------------------------ From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 17:41:24 -0500 Subject: Tuesday Tuesday Gabriel Palczewski Said:: >Remember John Christ wasn't that known until Glenn grabbed him and if Glenn >never befriended Eerie he would be a virtual unknowner. They owe Glenn >something and should stop complaining and realize why the band is named >DANZIG. Oh PULEEZE maybe they should lick his brimstone encrusted boots also?? FUCK THAT I see it another way Glenzig oughta realize that *he* owes them something! mainly the recognition that he is virtually impossible to get along with, which is probably worth twice what he's paying them for putting up with him so long. Tuesday Teevie Said: > I just wonder if there are any songs they NEVER did live... I suppose stuff > like Theme for a Jackal, Hollywood Babylon, and Come Back.. how about She? I can'tspeak for the other songs but my personal fav "Hollywood Babylon" was recorded live in 1978?(Mark??) @ Max's Kansas City. Rocky_Saenz@baylor.edu Said: >why do you think that danzig refused to do the misfits tour? >-could it be that he does not like to admit that the misfits were actually >successful or is it just foolish pride??- Why do *you* think Glenn was even asked? Let's get one thing straight - the words successful & Misfits really don't belong in the same sentence. Look up the word "Seminal" if you want an adjective to discribe the Misfits. :-) btw: to anyone that's asked NO I'm not Jerry Only :-) ask Mark if you don't believe me. But on a related topic I've just been told by Jerry that he will go over each and every Misfits' tune 1 by 1 and release to us the lyrics to the best of his knowledge. Please keep in mind that ALL misfits songs are the property of Glenzig, etc. etc. (Insert your favorite legal mumbo jumbo here) btw: Does anyone out there have any good quality X bootlegs? I'm especially interested versions of "Johnny Hit & Run Paulene" that are different than what is available on the album - send email if so. thnx +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: She Subject: stuff from 68 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 95 20:16:48 EST WARRIOR138@aol.com > > > The above described process also explains why in you hear Glenn > >say "Mommy [long pause] can I go out and kill tonight" twice during > >the break in the studio version of Mommy. > > That's funny. I always mistook that for just an echo. Maybe I was wrong, > maybe you were wrong. Mayby we both were wrong. Who really cares, anyway? > its just a record.... Well, didn't you ever wonder why the echo came BEFORE Glenn said the words? That just woudn't make sense. I know I'm right because Jerry's the one who said it happened that way in the first place. kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) > > ah, but chuck did dye his hair black. check the sleeve for danzig 4p. Well, I think his hair is naturally brown, and what we're seeing in the picture is his natural hair color in a black and white picture which of course would make it dark looking... Teevie Alan > > Steele said in a MRR interview that the first song he played live with > the Misfits was Static Age (or TV Casualty? Maybe both.. i forget)... So > how much of the old stuff DID they do when the Misfits were young? > Anybody got ahold of any set lists prior to Doyle's arrival in the band? > (Before Bobby, even?) I just wonder if there are any songs they NEVER > did live... I suppose stuff like Theme for a Jackal, Hollywood Babylon, They used to play cough/cool and she and a lot of the stuff that eventually was released on Legacy.. Bobby's first song was Static Age, yep. Rocky_Saenz@baylor.edu > does anybody know if the misfits tour is going to happen, and if so does > anybody know the dates? > why do you think that danzig refused to do the misfits tour? The tour will happen some day but dates are far in the future. They have to have a singer before they can tour. And Danzig really hasn't refused, I don't even know that he was asked. Of course they'd take him if he wanted, but he's got his own band now. PDH1021@aol.com > > 2. What does the tattoo on GD's lower back say? I've read that it's in > Japanese. As I can read Japanese (at least hiragana and katakana--the tat > doesn't look like kanji), I've always been curious but have never been able > to see it well enough in any photos. Devil-Man ; from the Japanese comic book of the same name > As an aside, whenever I hear "Hollywood Babylon" I always think of the story > in Kenneth Anger's book about Jayne Mansfield--she of the mountainous That's where the inspiration for the song came from.... see you later. mark ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 22:13:05 -0500 Subject: BRAND NEW EVIL if you want to mail eevile don't. mail eevildon. that's my new name so if you sent me anything about my comments in tuesday's bible re-mail them to eevildon if you please would. thanks! Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 01:16:36 +0500 From: Tom Bunt Subject: About what Glenn... says at the 3:44 minute mark on Do You Wear the Mark. I'm pretty sure he says, "I can reach in and show you.", but it is a little muffled so I could be wrong. If Glenn wants to take half of the money, then more power to him. If Eerie, Joey, and John let him take half of the money then it is their fault. On the other hand I did read an interview with John Christ wherein John said that Glenn hummed into a little tape recorder and then sent it to John so he could figure it out on guitar. I know Glenn is very talented, but it makes you wonder if he is as good as people think. Why doesn't he figure it out himself? Most of the songs, from what I've seen, aren't too difficult to play, so why can't he write them himself? Maybe John Christ was joking, but if he wasn't then you might have to question Glenn's requests for half of the money. I heard a while back that Glenn was doing another song with Johnny Cash. I think Glenn might even be singing in this one, but I'm not sure. Has anyone else heard about this collaboration? Thanks for any answers to my questions. Tom ------------------------------ From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 11:05:54 +0400 (EET-DST) Subject: comments, ideas, festivals..... Some comments on the last bible first : > bloodboy wrote : > > I don't know; but the older stuff is a > lot more unique sounding and I think I'd have to say that I enjoy it more > overall than the faster punk stuff. What does everyone else think? Well, I too like the early Misfits sound but I think that their best efforts are collected in Walk Among us (personal opinion). Earth AD is good but I have to say that Legacy is their worst album (again, personal opinion). I like listening to it but I try not to think of it as a Misfits album. It has a different feel into it. Personally, I'm a sucker for the fast shit (even if it's slower songs played fast) , hence my fav. Misfits are Evilive and Nightofthelivingdead (the live 12") > Finally, I'd just like to say that the last few bibles have been a lot more > like they used to be. It's a pleasant return to a more peaceful, friendly > bible and let's hope it stays that way. Bloodboy, even *you* sissied out! What is the world coming to? ;) :) > Alexandra Gerber wrote : > > 2)I'd be perfectly willing to participate in helping to make a tape. And > if you wait a couple of months and I could probably even make a cool > comp-graphics cover with the hardware I'm planning on purchasing... ;) I'm still for the tape but as far as the artwork, I think that hand made artwork would be much better. Somebody mentioned something in a previous bible (sorry forgot your name) about him/her (I think it's her) volunteering to make a hand drawn artwork. That sounds really good! > WARRIOR138@aol.com : > > Well, I already got ya all beat to do this one. a few months back, I made > "Glenn's Greatest" 1 and 2. its got lots o' stuff from all 3 bands, and "You > and Me" from Less Than Zero. they're pretty good tapes if I do say so > myself... Yea, but the point was to make a MISFITS tape... I for instance, am not interested in Danzig or Samhain that much... > flex wrote : > about pushead: yeah, you'd probably have a hard time finding his new work > as it's mostly distributed via pushead club... > and sure, giger is better. c'mon, it's like comparing da vinci to warhol. > giger is a "serious" artist. pushead is an underground artist. I know its not really important, but I thought your comparison was not fair to Giger... I mean Giger spent *many* years in the underground before being recognised by some... I still wouldn't say Giger's a contemporary artist though...There was a quote by someone (don't remember name) about Giger and his art and went something like :" Giger you see things that we ,normal Earth people, don't", which I think sums him up nicely. About Pushead, I 'd just say he's more of a hobbyist really. Oh, and even his older stuff was not just skulls. I got samples of his work from around 89-90 and there's some pretty amazing drawings of butterflies. > Paul Hahn wrote : > > most people > on this list would give a limb to play with him. I, for one, most certainly wouldn't -- Some other stuff... Oh, yea, I just found out that I'll be seeing Danzig live in a couple of months here in Finland... not because I want to , but because they're playing a festival where Bad Religion are playing! Hmm, Bad religion are playing before Danzig so I could just leave after them...;) No, I'm looking forward to see Danzig too (last time was...3-4 years ago) I think Faith No More are headlining and ... Suede are playing too (I wonder why I mentioned that ;) . Now, is anybody on the Bible planning to come over Europe for any festivals this summer? I know of a couple already (good ones). In Finland (again) NOFX are playing a festival and there's a Dutch festival (in Eindhoven (spelling?)) with some decent HC bands and I'm sure there's loads of others too. Somebody from Holland could confirm that maybe... Just bought a 7" by a Finnish Misfits cover band. They're called The Spaceghouls and they're pretty good! Anybody heard anything about that? Oh and finally I want to mention that last year, me and my roommate recorded a version of where eagles dare with just a guitar! My roommate was playing the guitar and I was singing (NO, he couldn't play the guitar and NO, I can't sing!) SO there's the idea : we should make a tape with Misfits songs that Bible members have recorded! Although, since we have some real musicians on the list , it's not so fair... Shit, I think that's enough for 9:00 in the morning! Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Yannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### --I'll be happy when I smash your face in-- NFAA ### ### ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 16:52:44 -0500 Subject: bobby i have two letters from bobby to a guitar magazine. they are a few years old but hey! one says that the magazine was wrong stating misfits were a west coast band(idiots). and that people ask him what the synth part was on halloween II , he explained it was just a little trick with a steel bar he ran across the strings which he picked up from steve hillage. the other one just explained how franche comma was the first misfits guitarist and the name wasn't an allias he had used. also EARTH A.D. did come out on cd along with EVILIVE , i don't know you distributed them but they're available through sessions if you want the toll free sessions number e-mail me Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 22:46:50 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski To: misfits@virginia.edu Subject: mother Mother Chords & TAB ------------------- Intro: B5 G A5 |----------| |-------------| |---------------| |----------| |-------------| |---------------| Those are the intro |----------| |-------------| |---------------| chords and should be |---4------| |-----0-------| |------2--------| played in this order. |---2------| |-----2-------| |------0--------| | |----------| |-----3-------| |---------------| | | /______| B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 \ Play the line above once (you can figure out the spacing) Then play G A5 B5 again 3x until the song starts up! Verse 1: Mother, tell your children not to walk my way. Tell your children not to hear my words, what they mean, what they say. Mother. Chords: G A5 B5 G5 A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 (post-Mother.) Verse 2: Mother, can you keep them in the dark for life? Can you hide them from the waiting world? Oh, Mother. Father, gonna take your daughter out tonight. Gonna show show her my world. Oh Father. Chords: G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 (post-Oh Father.) Chorus: Not about to see your light, but if you wanna find hell with me, I can show you what it's like till your bleeding. Not about to see your light, and if you wanna find hell with me, I can show you what its... Chords: G5 A5 B5/F# B5 A5 G5 A5 B5/F# B5 A5 G5 A5 F#5 (after what its...) Verse 3: Mother, tell your children not to hold my hand. Tell your children not to understand. Oh Mother. Father, do you wanna bang heads with me? Do you wanna feel everything? Oh Father! Chords: G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 B5 G A5 (after-Oh Father!) Play Chorus Again Solo: Full Full Full e:--------------------------------------------------|-----------------------| B:--------------------------------------------------|-/|\--/|\--/|\---------| G:--------------------------------------------------|--|----|----|----------| D:-------------------------7--9h7-----7--9h7--------|--|----|----|----------| A:-----------5--7--5--7h9----------9----------9--7--|--9h7--9h7--9----------| E:--7--5--7-----------------------------------------|-----------------------| Full Full | | Full e:---------------------------7--|---|------------10h7-----------|-----------| B:--------------------7--10-----10--|--10-----7-----------------|-----------| G:----------------------------------|---------------------10----10----------| D:--------9-------------------------|---------------------------------------| A:----------------------------------|---------------------------------------| E:----------------------------------|---------------------------------------| Full e:-----------------|-----| B:-----------------|-----| G:---------15h17--17-----| D:---/16-----------------| A:-----------------------| E:-----------------------| e:---17--------17----17--------------17--------------| B:-------------------17b-------------17b-------17h15-| G:-------17b-----------------------------------------| D:---------------------------------------------------| A:---------------------------------------------------| E:---------------------------------------------------| Full | e:----------------------------19--24---|---------------24------------------| B:---17--15--------------/19-----------|-----------------------------------| G:-----------16------------------------|-----------------------------------| D:-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| A:-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| E:-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| Ok thats it. I don't have the outro solo. If you would like I can CRD out the outro 2nd guitar that is playing. If you want this email me at: azrael@grfn.org If you need help on chords or where the chords should go on the lyrics ask me at my e-mail address: azrael@grfn.org The line the lyrics are on is the line the chords are on. 2nd line lyrics, 2nd line chords and such. Its pretty easy to pick out where each goes but if you do need help again feel free to ask at: azrael@grfn.org These chords and solo TABs are 100% acurate or Glenn Danzig is a liar. Whew! I thought I wouldn't make Thurdays Bible. I hope i still did! Anyhow here it is 100% correct. Hopefully by next week I will have the guitar and bass tabs for DOMINION off 4p completed and ready to display in all its glory online. ------------------------------ From: LUCIFER18@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 00:52:11 -0500 Subject: I'm BAAAAAAAAAAAACK Yeah, thats right. It's Lucifer, your favorite demon. But this time, I got something special for ya...Me actually talking to someone!!! Someone who actually thought I was Glenn Danzig for a while. I had a few other people going, too. Just read the thing, will ya? William H1: Danzig? William Harms here--writer for Boneyard Press. Where the hell has Hart Fisher been? LUCIFER18: Ok, I'm not really Glenn, I just enjoy impersonating him over the computer. Just dont tell anyone now, OK William H1: Ah-hah!!!! Your secret is safe, dude. Just be careful, sometimes people on here really know each other. Have fun.... LUCIFER18: Hey, anything cool coming out soon from you guys? William H1: Check out Flowers on the Razor Wire # 5 in May from Boneyard...I have a story in there...Verotika is doing an adaptation of Nancy Collins book Sunglasses after Dark...plus Death Dealer...and the Verotika anthology...I only work for Boneyard...Fisher is an editor for Danzig and the boneyard publisher LUCIFER18: I got an autographed Death Dealer poster from the real Glenn after the Chicago show in Dismember. I know about Fisher... I read about him in Satanika #1. My girlfiend loves the Verotik stuff. Especially Verotika, but mostly because that's her nicmame William H1: Yeah---it's so hard to find REAL horror in comics, stuff that is scary..not just wishy-washy crap LUCIFER18: I agree with you there. I gotta go now. Maybe you could mail me and we can continue this. later William H1: Later See, I aint always like I usually am. Actually, it's just to you people. Lucifer Morningstar, Bringer of Death ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 03:12:29 -0500 Subject: various Many thanks to MK for forwarding all the past Bibles, they were a great weekend read. I'm really impresssed by the knowledge of the folks who've been posting--I only with I could compete. I also wish that I had your respective collections! In reading the past bibles, I have to say that I was particularly interested in the comparisons of Danzig's song "The Hunter" to certain Led Zep/classic bluesmen songs. I chuckle because my older brother was in an L.A. band called "Hunter" (also my nephew's middle name). Anyway, perhaps it's indicative of the "coming-of-age" music we listened to in those days--various bluesmen, Led Zep, Paul Rogers, etc. My point is, if you listened to my brother's circa 1981 demo tape for a song called "The Hunter", you'd scream, not because I'm alleging any ripoffs, but because these fellows obviously had the same influences and therefore the same ideas. I personally think that's cool--in this business it all comes/goes around again at some point. Just look at the current resurgence of "Punk." As for people slagging Glenn for supposedlly "selling out" in order to gain more visibility--I personally don't think that it's true. Believe me, having seen first hand, via my brother, how hard it is to "make it" (read: pay your rent, etc...), in this business, I don't begrudge GD anything that comes his way. It sounds very noble to be an "artist" flailing away in obscurity, but the reality of the situation is an entirely different thing. As for a Misfits "reunion", I have to agree with other folks who think that this would be ill-advised. I freely admit that I'm a huge GD fan and am therefore biased. However, I, and I'm sure many others, appreciate the work of Jerry & Doyle and would be willing to give anything they attempt a listen. I hope that they choose to go forward, and that they embark upon it with all their energy and a new moniker. While writing this, I'm thinking of the current "Page/Plant" tour. Believe me, I'm a fan of both of these fellows, however, I saw a segment of their "unledded" gig on MTV (I could only stomach a wee bit) and I was *horrified*. In my younger days, I wanted to *be* Jimmy Page (too bad I can't play the guitar)--I digress--my point is that the myth was better left as it was. Personally, I've enjoyed Robert Plant's solo ventures. Jimmy Page's have been a bit more iffy (read: the David Coverdale collaberation). Anyway, why try to rehash former times. I respect Glenn Danzig for leaving the Misfits in the past. As much as I love the songs, the group, etc., we,and they, do not live in a time warp. Let Glenn and the others do their respective "things" and get on with their creative lives--something we all want and will appreciate much more in the long run. Sorry if I've yakked too long. Flame at will, "I can stand the pain." PDH. ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: RE: Bible #68 - Devilman & other stuff Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 08:35:00 est Just a few comments on last bible: She - Yup, Manny turned up again back in 1990 - unfortunately I was NOT there at the time (drat drat - one of the FEW times I wasn't hanging around 'cause I'd gone off to somebody's part) but Glenn told me about it the next day. It was when they played at the Allentown Music (and Bingo) Hall in August 1990. Before the show Manny just came up to the bus & knocked on the door & asked to see Glenn - told Jesse (Glenn's then bodyguard) that he was one of the Misfits & Jesse was like "yeah right, hey Glenn there's a guy here who says he was in the Misfits" but Glenn came over to see & was REALLY surprized as he hadn't seen him since WAY back when!! So they chatted a bunch & did some catching up - I don't think he's heard from him again tho. Drat - if I'd have known I would have brought my copy of Cough/Cool to get signed! Teevie Alan - I've NEVER heard of Danzig playing "She" live. It would be great though, but I'm sure it's just a rumor. Any idea where this was supposed to have happened? Flex - yeah, the new Pushead stuff is GREAT! I'm in the Pushead fan club & love all the stuff he's put out through that. Just wish he wasn't so damn slow mailing shit out tho. A YEAR ago I won his contest where he was giving away the original "Skullplanet" artwork from the back of one of the Metallica shirts and he STILL hasn't mailed it to me, even tho he's apologized several times for taking so long. Strange fellow. But a brilliant artist! Rocky_Saenz - I think Danzig just isn't at all interested in the Misfits anymore - that was a LONG time ago & he's changed and done a lot more since. To most people doing the same thing you did a dozen years back would be like being stuck in a rut. You move on. (Hell, I'm an artist & I'd be upset if people only wanted the stuff I did that long ago) Cereal Killer - thanks so much for the write up on the show. I am DYING to see this tour! Great to hear they are doing "Cantspeak" and "I don't Mind the Pain" and I am THRILLED to pieces they are doing "Devil's Plaything" again as they've hardly played that one since 1990. Now if they'd just bring back "Blood and Tears" I'd be a very happy camper! PDH1021@aol.com - to answer your questions On "Do You Wear the Mark" if I remember correctly what he's saying is "I've got a new trick to show you..... I think you're gonna like it" At least that's what it sounds like to me The tattoo on his lower back is the logo for the Japanese manga "Devilman" by Go Nagai. He's also got two little Devilman heads worked into either side of the tattoo on his arm. I first noticed the Devilman logo tat in the "She Rides" video & about died as I've been a huge fan of that comic for many years & at the time it was REALLY obscure in the US. It's more popular now that the OVA's have been translated over here - heck, these days you can pick 'em up in Suncoast video! (HIGHLY recommend to anybody who likes wild violent Japanimation even tho it's kinda tame next to some of the newer stuff like Legend of the Overfiend) For another tie in, the "angel" head in the Kaluta yin/yang design on the new Danzig album looks suspiciously like Devilman's rival Silene. (And the angel on the Black Aria cover reminds me a lot of her too) And Satanika sure looks like Devilman's love child.... Anyway Glenn is a HUGE Devilman fan/collector - both of us collect all the model kits & animation cels & stuff so we compare notes on what's out there. (hehehe - still glad I beat him to a few of those cels at the San Diego comic con last year - he's already got plenty!) (BTW I loved that tat of his so much I got my fav manga logo done in the same spot.... "akuma no hanoyome". Man oh man did that hurt - little can compare to a tattoo gun on the spinal column!) Anyway, Glenn & Go Nagai are friends & Glenn has visited Go in Japan several times now. He'll be publishing new Devilman stories for Verotik - I can't wait!!! They are also gonna do a Silene/Satanika crossover story.... I'm sure the title Hollywood Babylon came from the Kenneth Anger title. Afraid I can't remember who did the soundtrack music for "Lucifer Rising" - it's been quite a few years since I saw it and I haven't been able to find it on video (anybody hav e any Anger stuff?). May well have been Page tho. I know Jagger did the soundtrack for Anger's "Invocation of my Demon Brother" though. Well better scram for now so I can get this in the Bible in time! - EVB ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing addres is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Track Listings ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: last issue Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 11:14:36 EST WL261073@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu > Also wasn't there supposed to be a Crimson Ghost face in an Iron > Maiden Video? Indeed there is in the video for "Run To The Hills" G > Subject: Sam Hain 7" > > I saw a Samhain 7" today, entitled '85-'86, Live and Demos. Knowing > nothing about them, I was wondering if this was worth picking up. > Thanks, G. Sounds a lot like the "Last Gasp' 7" which came out at the end of last year. > I can'tspeak for the other songs but my personal fav "Hollywood Babylon" was > recorded live in 1978?(Mark??) @ Max's Kansas City. Yep, too bad nobody's got a copy of that show.... EevilDon@aol.com > > i have two letters from bobby to a guitar magazine. they are a few years old > but hey! one says that the magazine was wrong stating misfits were a west > coast band(idiots). and that people ask him what the synth part was on > halloween II , he explained it was just a little trick with a steel bar he > ran across the strings which he picked up from steve hillage. the other one Now, that's very strange since Halloween II was recorded when Doyle was in the band. However, I'm sure Bobby may have practiced it when he was in the band. see you later mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:53:04 -0500 From: kdufresn@vt.edu (NINcompoop) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #69 BLOODBOY!! Have you thrown in the towel? I haven't heard from you in a long time. What's going on? Are you turning sissie, or just realizing that your taking out a lease that your body can't pay? To make this a Misfits post: I was just wondering how many instrumental versions have been found of Misfits songs done by the Misfits...ie. Queen Wasp. If it's on the homepage, shoot me now Mark, I'm sorry. ****************NINcompoop*************** Goddamn Your Righteous Hand \/\/e |-|ate |_ove ***** \/\/e |_ove |-|ate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 13:46:43 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: Danzig and Control Some of the Crimson Ghost's comments on Mr. Danzig on Thursday got me thinking about the nature of Glenn's musicianship. So, at the risk of provoking plenty of responses from angry Danzig devotees, I am going to begin a discussion on the subject of: Glenn the Control Freak. In many bands there exists the phenomenon of a control freak. I've been in three bands over the past couple of years and only once did I encounter this phenomenon to a small degree. And it led to the break-up of the band even though we were pretty well-established at the time. It is really hard to get a group of musicians together who actually have the same interests, but it is possible to get flexible musicians together with some common ideas. This is when a band is enjoyable. I've seen several rather successful bands just in the local scene where I live either break up or lose members because of that one Control Freak who can't be flexible. Being friends with some of these members who quit I know firsthand that the reason they quit was because they couldn't stand the Control Freak. Now I don't pretend to know all about Danzig and all the members but it seems to me that Danzig is a HUGE Control Freak and I don't see how anyone could play in a band with him. Especially if they had their own musical ideas (and what musician doesn't?) Why the people in his band stay there I don't know. And why they would let him take more than his fair share of the cash, I don't know either. But I sure wouldn't be in a band with him even if I was offered the chance. Well, gotta cut out early 'cause I'm getting kicked out of the lab. Hope to hear from you all. Thanks for listening! bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 14:26:18 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Alan Subject: "She"? and demos EVB- I think the person who told me she saw Danzig play "She" was referring to a show in Chicago in '88 or '89... I'm not sure. She certainly would have recognized it if they'd played it, but her memory may not have been up to snuff. About the Misfits boot tape- how 'bout all them 'Fits demos? How many of those are out there? I have tapes of a few, but I've heard of a bunch that I don't have. Any chance of an orderly assortment of those being arranged? Teevie >;0?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:52:01 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Wee Hee Hee Hee! To: Crimson Ghost They do owe him. Don;t you think there are other guitar, drummers and bass players out there equally if not better then the ones Danzig has now that would love to be in his band? As I said he can make a band easily. And they can always leave remember that. If they don't want to do the shit then leave I highly doubt Glenn will throw a fit over it. Also just to comment on Lucifer.. he is like a few people that call local BBS's in my area. He thinks he is funny by acting like a shitball and its actually getting very boring. Impersonating Glenn.. how lame. Mark just have his posts deleted or I have the address for the AOL administration somewhere.. u can have his posts blocked from here. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:36:26 EST From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: Misfits Childish Bullshit!!!! -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Hello all, Hello jerry, doyle, glenn; Get the fuck off your high horses!!! You all gave us (fans of the world) a gift, your music!! Now we have to suffer. What am I talking about?? I'll tell ya. You all started a little shit band back in the mid to late 70's. Maybe you all did not expect it to do good, maybe you all wanted to be rock stars, I don't know. In the process of your little quest, you all touched thousands of people around the world. Your music means something different to alot of people. It reminds me of the great time I had growing up, and what good loyal friends mean to me. You all were in your early to mid 20's when you were in the Misfits. I would think that you all know what I mean, when I talk about that special feeling that you get when you reminisce about friendships and friendship loyalties back in your late teens to early 20's. So what the FUCK is all your problems?? Why all the fighting with band names, and Danzig not doing any Misfits songs, and you all not being friends any more??????? Its' cool to break up. It happens. But swallow your prides and make friends!! I saw Danzig say (in a MTV interview with Rikki RATHOLE) that the reason that Danzig doesn't do Misfits songs is because there was no interest in the Misfits at the time they were around. I admit it may have taken a few years, but there is tons of interest now!! We are suffering now. I'm 24, I'v been listening to the Misfits since 1988-1989 area. I was 8 years old to 13 years old when the Misfits were around. I'm sorry I was born 5 years to late. I did just see FEAR 2 weeks ago.(Thank god for reunion tours!!) Anyway, we the fans are suffering now. You all could release all the Misfits songs On a box set, or something. Money is not everything. That not what underground music is about (glenn). Maybe I'm strange. Maybe I'v had to many beers. We didn't ask for the Misfits, but it happened. THANK GOD!!!!!!! Tim AFNF12A@prodigy.com if you agree or disagree............E-Mail me jerry, doyle, danzig..................E-Mail me!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 16:35:55 EST From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: misfits/black flag -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- I just got my Henry Rollins "GET IN THE VAN" book today. In it there are several vintage MISFITS pictures, a very young (and cross eyed) Chuck Biscuits, and several diary type references to the MISFITS. Among others is how Robo got left in the U.K., and left the band (later to join the MISFITS). It would seem that Robo had some sort of a visa problem and U.K. customs would not let him out of the country. It just goes to reinforce what Glenn has said along about those fuckheads over in England. I guess that we should thank them for doing it though, EARTH A.D. was there best work, and definitely the best drumming!!!! Where is Robo now??? ------------------------------ From: SamhainXXX@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 18:13:10 -0500 Subject: The Complete Misfits Tape I know that a lot of people are trying to make this tape, and I've also got one put togeter. The tape is done and it fits all of the misfits songs on one 100 min. Maxell XLII-S tape. Here is the track listing: Last Caress Cough/Cool She Teenagers From Mars/Children in Heat Horror Hotel Who Killed Marilyn? (7" version) Spook City U.S.A. Halloween (7" version) Halloween II Return of the Fly Hollywood Babylon Bullit We Are 138 Attitude London Dungeon Ghouls Night Out Horror Business Night of the Living Dead Skulls Violent World Devils Whorehouse Astro Zombies Braineaters 20 Eyes I Turned into A Martian All Hell Breaks Loose Demonomania Vampira Nike A-Go Go Hatebreeders Angelfuck Hybrid Moments Theme for a Jackal Come Back Spinal Remains Static Age T.V. Casualty Some kinda hate Where Eagles Dare American Nightmare Earth A.D. Devilock Death Comes Ripping Green Hell Wolfsblood Die, Die My Darling We Bite Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight? Bloodfeast Hellhound Queen Wasp R.A.T.T. F.I.N.K. I think that should be at least one version of every song. If I missed any please let me know. The only song not there is Rise Above and I need a copy of it. So if you have it, email me so this thing will be complete If anyone is intersted in putting a cover togeter for this, PLEASE email me. Let's make this tape avalible for Bible members only and just charge a few dollors for tape costs and postage. -Carey (samhainxxx@aol.com or samhain666@aol.com) ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 18:19:35 -0500 Subject: Circus of Power I noticed they did a show with Danzig a few years back....does anyone know what happened to them? I have two of their albums, and have written to them and gotten my letter back addressee unknown or whatever they send.....anyone know what's become of COP? Also, I've noticed a few copies of Live! 79 The Perfect Crime! going around on tape. I've gotten 3 copies on tape total of it, and the speed is off a little--too slow...just thought I'd warn some of you. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:20:41 -0800 (PST) From: HOWARD ELLAK Subject: hold up a sec To: azrael@grfn.org Um, before you called me dull-witted, I wish you would have read my post over a couple of times. If you've been keeping up with the Bible, you know that I was commenting on previous posts-- I was NOT calling Glenn a racist. I am fundamentally opposed to using labels like that. What I was referring to was that feeling you get when you are really into a band, and their music moves and inspires you, and then you go to a show and they start in with "nigger this" and "nigger that." Now you have a choice: you can stop liking their music because you don't like their personal politics, or you can like their music in spite of their politics. I hate feeling like I have to give up something I really love when their music is not specifically political, but deals with emotions and experiences that are so universal. So that was what I was trying to say: I don't know Glenn. And judging from most of the posts here in the Bible, I don't want to know Glenn. I never say this, but I wish he would just shut up and play. Hope that's more clear. Ella ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 18:38:51 -0500 Subject: mommy and the echo the echo you hear in mommy is called a reverse echo. it's not uncommon (zeppelin's whole 'lotta love is an early example, along with danzig's own heart of the devil) you can even get mixers with this feature built in (it's one of many you can get on the new peavy boards with built in echos-reverbs) this is most likely the source of this reverse-echo. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: Mike Westlake Subject: um....damn Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 22:55:16 -0500 (EST) So much for originality. Well, I'm back again. Hopefully I won't start a debate as to why people keep answering my questions again. I only needed one! Lighten up. Anyway, as there seems to be these reports of Misfits, etc. sightings I thought I'd add one. On the cover of the May issue of Guitar magazine Rob Zombie has an Initium shirt on. That's so cool. Anyway, it just caught my eye. EevilDon@aol.com: Thanks for the number. I haven't given it a shot yet, but I will tomorrow. On the Demonomania Club discs the first concert is listed as being held in Detroit. But, as my memory hopefully recalls so that I don't have to hear the rath of all of you Glenn thanks Black Flag for bringing them out west. Can someone tell me what the label and number of the German Earth A.D./Evilive/Wolfsblood. Don't panic if I screwed up, someone just tell me. You know which one I mean. Thanks, Hollister ------------------------------ From: J.Baldry@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 13:06:56 GMT Subject: Euro Festivals... Hi all, To the guy in Finland, I'm coming across to Germany from the UK just to see Danzig at the 'Rock Am Ring' Festival. I'm doing it because I don't think they will be playing England again and I really wanna see tham again. Mind you, I'm gonna leave after Danzig as the thought of watching Queensryche is a more miserable one than the fact I'll have to try and communicate with German people (*joke*). Is anyone else on the Bible going to this Festival? If so, email me... maybe we could meet up or whatever. To the people going on about this 'echo' they hear on certain songs, this IS just a problem in mastering tapes. When tapes are stored in the wrong way, some of the information 'bleeds' through onto other sections thus giving the impression of an echo BEFORE the original is sung/spoken. Many records have this defect (check out Vain's first album for a horrendous example!!). More worrying I'd have thought is the ridiculous amount of hiss and background noise on the 'III - How The Gods Kill' album... listen to HTGK, Sistinas or Anything on headphones. This can't have been intentional surely? Is Glenn racist? I think people have a right to be proud of their race and a right to attack others who diss them for being balck, white whatever. If standing up for your own race is racist then count me and about a million rap bands as racist. Racism is about ignorance and intolerance NOT being proud of who/what you are. C-ya Julian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 14:09:16 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: video/tape update Hello Fiends, Thanks to all of those who wrote or called about the video and the tape. What an enormous response!! Well, I figured that I'd just answer some of your most popular questions here: - The master tapes are being assembled as I write this, so track listings aren't available at the moment. As soon as we get the definite lineup for both tapes, it will be posted RIGHT HERE (who knows, maybe it's in this issue by now...). - For all of our fiend friends in foreign countries - If you would like the tapes, just send me your address first so that I can check postage rates for you before you send out the money. Also, it would probably be wise if you didn't try sending me a video tape to record on (cheaper, too...). - About the covers - The video cover is almost done and it will be titled "Evil Is As Evil Does." The cassete cover is...uhhh...not quite done. BUT, I will send you all the covers LATER (at my expense) instead of just holding your tapes...don't fret. - Danzig and Samhain footage will not be included on the video. The plan is to get out the Misfits stuff FIRST. Then Samhain, then Danzig.... In other words, read the Misfits Bible over the summer!! - A reminder that the videos ship *after* May 7!!! - A reminder that if you are ordering the video, include the address you will be at AFTER May 7. Otherwise, it will be sent to an empty dorm room and who knows what might happen to it. Yikes. - Oh yeah, here's another legal thing : I'm not responsible for lost, stolen, misguided, misdirected, etc. mail. In other words, CONCEAL YOUR CASH!! Also, the tapes are exclusively for the members of the Misfits Bible. Do not try to sell or make money off of anything we send you!! Otherwise all of this generosity will stop.... That should be all for now. If you still have questions feel free to write or call. All of the vital information is in the Misfits Bible #69 - so consult that for my address and phone # and ordering instructions. Bye for now - Brent E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 20:05:53 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Christ Hello again - Damn, for some reson I can see myself posting a lot more messages before Tuesday rolls around. Anyway, nothing new on the tape situation, so you can scroll down if that's what you're looking for. The reason I'm writing is to back up the Crimson Ghost once again, this time in reference to all of this "Glenzig wants 50%" stuff that's been popping up. Ah, but I come with words straight from the mouth of John Christ, the man himself! That's right fiends, if you own the October 1994 issue of Guitar magazine, please turn with me now to page 30. You will notice that this is an article written by John and that is is about the 48 hours before the tour kicks off. For those of you who think that Glenn deserves at least half, read some of John's entries. I think we shall see who does all of the grunt work to make the tour possible, etc. (These are just excerpts and summaries from the article). Wednesday May 18th 7:00 am - John wakes up, eats, and then places four calls. The first is to D'Andrea picks so that he can close a deal for himself and Eerie. The second is to Celestion Speakers, where he arranges to purchase and ship speakers for the tour. The third is to the tour manager, giving him all he needs to know about the previous two phone calls. And the fourth is to a string/cable company. I'm willing to bet that Glenn is sleeping right now.... 8:00 - 10:00 am - "Pump iron and scream from the pain." 10:30 am - "Call Anthony at Mates Warehouse in N. Hollywood about loading Danzig gear from our storage space to his in preparation for shipment by Rocket Cargo to the rehearsal space in New Jersey. ***I ATTEMPT TO LOCATE BISCUITS AND EERIE TO HELP MOVE GEAR. OH WELL..."*** John then gets a call reminding him of his photo shoot at 3 pm. 11:30 am ***READ THIS!!!!**** "Anthony picks me up at my girlfriend's apartment in the valley. We drive the truck to the storage space. (That's the easy part.) I don't have the code for the security gate; I have to go to the office for a new one. Somehow they managed to delete my name from the records. I had the key to the locker, but that means nada. I had to call our accountants and get them to fax a letter on company stationary giving me permission to enter the unit. It took 20 minutes (not too bad). Then the real fun started. The storage locker was packed to the clouds! Take a guess what was on top...two loaded Ampeg SVT speaker cabinets! We had some serious roadie fun for an hour and a half. I agree - IT DOES SOUND ODD FOR THE LEAD GUITARIST OF DANZIG TO BE MOVING A WHOLE BACKLINE AROUND. DON'T THEY PAY PEOPLE TO DO THAT SORT OF THING?????" >From this point, John does even more tour related errands until... 10:00 pm - "At the warehouse Anthony greets me with a tired smile. THE POOR GUY HAD TO UNLOAD THE TRUCK INTO THE WAREHOUSE BY HIMSELF." Then they do some more work and John ends up crashing on his girlfriend's couch. THURSDAY MAY 19th 8:00 am - He works out again. Then more errands... 12:30 pm- "I arrive at the hotel before Glenn and Chuck. Go figure." 1:30 pm - "An hour and a half late after collecting Glenn and Chuck, we arrive at the first shoot for Request magazine." BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.... I think you all get the picture by now. What kind of a guy makes his guitarist and friend load and unload all of the tour gear? A money-hungry super-duper cheapskate perhaps? I couldn't believe it when I read it. Well anyways, maybe that will get you thinking about who deserves what in this band. Bye for now - Brent E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:54:10 -0400 (EDT) From: GOAT Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #69 Hey all! Haven't posted for a while, so thought I'd jump in a little. Went to Boston a couple of weeks ago and picked up some goodies. I got the Misfits boot recorded at Al's Bar, Samhain "Unholy Passion" EP on red vinyl, and Danzig III on UK import vinyl. I was really happy to get all of this. The store had some killer stuff. Too bad they're relocating to San Diego! Also the other day I got the Misfits boot that was recorded at the Ritz in NYC in December 1981. Haven't gotten to listen to it yet though as I've been terribly busy. I was thinking about something that might be kinda cool to talk about, and possibly put in the FAQ under Miscellaneous items or something. I had never really realized all of the covers of Misfits songs that had been done. There's the obvious Metallica ones, and Guns -n- Roses covered "Attitude". The best one I've heard so far though is a cover of "Where Eagles Dare", done by Bratmobile on the EP "The Real Janelle." I heard that it's really just a joke on the Misfits because the girls think Glen is some sort of ape-like mysogonist or something, and with them being part of the riot grrrl thing I wouldn't be surprised. Anyway, I thought it was a pretty good rendetion of it. Anyone know any others? There's got to be some more. On a similar note, this past Friday at my school they had a big show with bands made up of students that go here, and one of the guys was doing an acoustic set. He said to the audience that he was going to do a cover song, and warned us that it would sound nothing like the original (the music, that is, but the lyrics would be the same.) He said he'd give us a hint and played the first three chords of the real song. I didn't recognize it because it sounded nothing like the original, but when he started singing it was unmistakeable. It was a really slow, fucked up version of "Mother." It was obviously just a big joke because he interjected dumb little sayings into it (i.e. If anyone wants to bang heads with me I'll be out back after the show.) At first it was kinda funny, but then it just got really stupid. Everyone was laughing so hard. Everyone except for me, that is. It was just so stupid that I couldn't help but get a little offended. Did everyone remember to change their clocks early Sunday morning? Daylight savings has taken affect! We lost an hour here, which really sucks. To me that means that I have to be at work in two hours instead of three when I haven't slept for 31 hours. What fun it will be selling records today! Well, until next time, bye! Angela- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 15:26:34 -0400 From: She Subject: Special Emergency Broadcast Hey fiends, today we reached 200. Yes, we have 200 subscribers across the world on this mailing list. I'm really amazed. Just 6 months ago we only had about 20. Everyone give a hand to oldtimers like the Crimson Ghost, Paul Hunnicutt, Carl Sylvester, Robert Duran, Kate Sumner, Chuck from umass, lars, giznad, and the silly rabbit who've been here since this thing first got together in May. By the way, I just got a letter from our f(r)iend Mike Moll who made some posts here a few weeks ago. Apparently he lost his account and was unable to officially "sign off", so basically he just wanted to say goodbye for now to all the fiends on the mailing list. He'll try to return soon. mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 1995 20:02:16 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: seven pupils First of all, to he who said that glenn should just play music and shield his feelings about the state of our place, you dead wrong. You say "glenns not a politician or a theorist, so he should stick to his music".. If we are made to put our faith in politicians and theorist then let me impale myself upon trusty fiend 138 right now. I am glad that someone with hard-fought but still limited fame has the nerve to tell it like it is. Glenn--a racist:> Are we not all racist by nature... Gimme a break its human nature.. The time that people are gonna get together without fighting will be when the sun bites the moon and the stars fall down. About Glenn not doing the misfits tour.. :> Is glenn a member of the misfits? Man he just quit such a powerful band too go back to his punk days. Wow.. Who's gonna be playing with them Rollins with Black Flag. How bout the beatles with John Lennon? Damn and I was so looking forward to Danzig 5. BTW, I think that Joey C(astillo),Chuck, John, and Eerie are great musicians, but if (and this might piss people off but who cares) anyone besides Glenn LEAD either of the three bands, there wouldnt be three bands. If john wrote songs for Danzig we could all just go out and buy Cult albums now. Ahh, guess thats all for now. Just speaking my mind, how I feel. I know it was wrong, I am probably now being recruited for WAR White Aryan Resistance, because I am a racist..Bad me. Cantspeak ------------------------------ From: Evilive@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 19:22:16 -0400 Subject: GlennMisfits HEY In response to peope saying Glenn shouldnt, or he wont, or its pointless, blah blah blah..... to go on tour with the Misfits, i disagree. I dont think they could be as good with out Glenn. They might find a Glenn wannabe who can sing like him and shit, but it wouldnt be the same. I think if Jerry and Doyle ask him he should(even though he wont). I think Glenn was a huge part of the Misfits and without him they are just not the Misfits. If Jerry and Doyle started a band that would be cool, but if they try to pick up where the Misfits left off, without Glenn, it wont be the Misfits. To EVB, I totally disagree when you said doing the same thing you did a dozen years ago is like being stuck in a rut. Most bands do their best shit when they first start out and then they get worst...just like Metallica, when they started out they where fucking great, now they are putting out shit like the black album. if every album sounded like Kill 'Em All, you would not hear me complaining. Another example would be Slayer, they have been putting out the same shit for over ten years, and it fucking rulz. Evilive "F, I said F I, F I N, F I N K, Fink, F I N K, fink, fink, fink, R, I said R A, R A T, R A T T, rat, R A T T F I N K, rat fink, rat fink, rat fink, rat fink, rat fink, R A T T F I N K........." ------------------------------ From: Danzig4192@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 22:53:27 -0400 Subject: Young Misfits vs New Misfits I haven't posted for a few but I have been reading with interest.. One thing I would like to comment on is the young/early Misfits sound..I really like the stuff on Legacy of Brutality and I also like the early demos (she, etc)..one reason is the fact that they used piano's et al to create a unique sound that was freaky and groovy like a 10 cent movie but I find that this is the case with a lot of the punk bands I like...Suicidal Tendencies's first album, Sex Pistols before Bullocks, Black Flag before Henry, DRI's first album, and of course DK's first--they all had a rougher more unpolished sound then what they progressed into, I just find that raw sound more appealing than more technically proficient stuff that starts to sound alike Next new misfits...the misfits without Glenn Danzig will probably be about as good as the Doors were after Morrison died (they did put out a few albums without him), Danzig's voice is what set the Misfits apart for me from other bands.just listen to Last Caress/Green Hell by Metallica and each song by the Misfits, Hatfield sings flat while Glenn actually can out some highs and lows into his singing...if they get some guy and go out and sing covers then they remind me of Repo Man and the Circle Jerks playing a pathetic lounge band..if they produce new material and don't try to be something they were 15 years ago then I will listen with an open mind ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:18:56 -0400 Subject: Sightings, Samhain, etc. The other day I saw a White Zombies video--"More Human than Human"--and the singer was sporting a "Samhain-Initium" t-shirt. On the subject of Samhain, my "Dictionary of Celtic Myth and Legend" has quite an interesting passage concerning this Celtic seasonal festival which heralded the passing of summer and the beginning of winter and the New Year. It took (takes) place on November 1, and apparently, the night which preceded it was considered a time of great danger and vulnerability, for it stood at the boundary between two halves of the Celtic year. It was considered as outside or suspended from time, when the normal laws of the world were temporarily in abeyance. The barriers between the real world and the supernatural dissolved, and the otherworld spirits could move freely from the sidhe (an Irish word for a "fairy mound", or dwelling place for spirits) to the land of the living. This worked in reverse, too, in that mortals could penetrate the underworld. Anyway, I hope that I didn't bore you with that, but I thought it was interesting. Well, onto another "sighting" of sorts: we all know that GD has a fondness for film, but has anyone else seen any connection between the 1987 film "Angel Heart" and Danzig? Let's see: The film was adapted from William Hjortsberg's "Falling Angel", a Faustian tale about a singer who sells his soul to the devil in exchange for success. Anyway, Robert DeNiro plays "Louis Cyphre" (Lucifer) in the film, and bears a remarkable resemblance to John & Eerie--long dark hair, goatee & black clothes. Additionally, he sports rather long, pointy fingernails (does GD still affect this look?), and wears a pentagram ring (see the "Am I Demon" vid). The New Orleans locations and voodoo stuff (chicken sacrifices) brought to mind the vids for "I'm The One" (The women in this vid look remarkably like the Epiphany Proudfoot character in the film), and "Mother." Someone in the film utters the line, "I once watched him conjer up Lucifuge in my living room." Hmm...anyway, if you haven't seen it, it's quite a good, creepy film & I highly recommend it. Lastly, the following is a review taken from the March '95 issue of "Guitar School": "DANZIG/TYPE-O NEGATIVE--ROSELAND, NYC 11/28/94: To the casual observer, Danzig & Type-O might share a lot in common, black clothing, black hair, serious facial expressions and an air of doom and gloom. But the similarities soon give way to larger differences in each band's aproach to music. [The reviewer,Don Kaye, goes on here to give a positive review of Type-O]...add a dark sense of humor, and you have a unique outfit that people are starting to notice. And while the same element of humor does not exist in Danzig's music, there's no denying the urgency with which the quartet attacks their 17-song set. Opening with three new songs from Danzig 4 threw off the mementum of their arrival somewhat, but when the band kicked into "It's Coming Down," real electricity errupted onstage. After that it was one solid number after another, with other new ones like "Going Down To Die" and "Bringer of Death" fitting easily into the set. In some ways, Glenn Danzig is the least attractive element of the band. While his muscians play with admirable restraint and precision, he can never seem to keep his mouth shut. Although the man has a great, powerful set of pipes and a good range, his warbling can get on one's nerves. The real star of Danzig is John Christ. His dark tone and no-nonsense playing get the most out of the superb riffs that power tunes like "Snakes of Christ" and "Do You Wear the Mark." Kudos also to new drummer Joey Castillo, whose meaty, thunderous slamming easily fills the slot left behind by Chuck Biscuits. Indeed, Danzig is one of the tightest live ands around, and they end their regular set with the almost unbeatable one-two punch of "Twist of Cain" and "Long Way Back >From Hell." As an added surprise, John and, yes, even Glenn, occaisionally cracked smiles--a welcome break in the usually grim demeanors." Well, I post this review in the spirit of objectivity & to promote some dialogue. I personally don't agree with his comments re: GD (remember, this is a guitar mag), but I'm always interested in the opinions of others. This band is great live, and I've always been fond of GD's singing--he's better live or on record than anyone I can think of, and he certainly doesn't get on my nerves. I think John Christ is quite talented, but I don't think he's the star of the band. As I haven't yet seen Joey Castillo, I don't feel I can comment as to whether or not he "easily" fills Chuck's shoes. Comments? ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: ramble... Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 08:18:00 edt I know in the last Bible I mentioned the Go Nagai comic "DEVILMAN" - well, it's official now that Verotik will be publishing it. The current issue of PREVIEWS (basically a monthly comic book order form magazine) has a solicitation for Devilman #1 shipping in June, as well as the Satanika #0 special full of pin ups by various artists. According to the solicitation they will only be printing as many copies of Devilman as are pre-ordered in advance so if you want it, order it! Also I believe that Satanika #0 is the issue that Glenn told me he would be publishing his original character design sketches in. I know a lot of you are having problems finding this stuff and again I want to tell you, most comic book stores don't carry a lot of indie titles - if you want to get them the best advice I can give you is to special order them in advance from your local comic book store. Nearly all of them carry Previews or Advance Comics (basically the same thing put out by a different distributor) Over the weekend I did up the master compilation tapes that Brent Eyestone has generously offered to dub for y'all. The audio tape contains all the LONG out of print and hard to find singles and B sides by the Misfits as well as the scarce Glenn Danzig "Who Killed Marilyn" solo single, plus a selection of demos & some live tracks from some of the scarcer bootleg 7"s.. I made the master tape off my copies of those rare singles so they are STRAIGHT from the original pressings and not off some later cheesy bootlegs! I also put together a 2 hr video compilation of the best quality shows I have. So check with Brent about these - I believe he'll be running the track listings in here, if not I'll post 'em! Gotta scram for now, - EVB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 09:36:06 -0400 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Track Listings hello fiendies, Well, hopefully this will make it in to Tuesday's Bible (the server is down right now). I just got the track listings from EVB, so they're below this little spiel. Listen, I have been getting a whole sh*tload of requests for both the video and the audio, so this could take some time. Please be patient!! I will dub everything on a *FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE* basis. But I will get through everything eventually....just please allow some time to receive your tapes. thanks - now on to the tracks....... THE VIDEO or "Evil is as Evil Does!" - ships after May 7, 1995 -------- - "Why Be Something You're Not?" - a Dearborn, MI cable access show (26 min.) - Live at the Goleta Center in Santa Barbara, Ca 1983 (35 min.) - Live at NA Community Center, Bethlehem PA, 10/31/82 (36 min.) - Braineaters Video - Skulls Video - Halloween Video - Live in Kalamazoo, MI 9/24/82 (13 min.) THE AUDIO or "Hymns From Hell" - available now -------- SIDE A (ORIGINAL SINGLES) - Cough Cool ("Cough/Cool", "She") - Bullet 7" ("Bullet", "We Are 138", "Attitude", "Hollywood Babylon") - Horror Business 7" ("Horror Business", "Teenagers From Mars", "Children In Heat") - Night Of The Living Dead 7" ("Night of the Living Dead", "Where Eagles Dare", "Rat Fink") - Three Hits From Hell ("London Dungeon", "Ghouls Night Out", "Horror Hotel") - from Beware 12"....."Last Caress" - Halloween 7" ("Halloween I", "Halloween II") - Who Killed Marilyn 7" - solo Danzig ("Who Killed Marilyn", "Spooky City USA") - "Return of the Fly" (unreleased) - "Live '79 - The Perfect Crime" 7" BOOTLEG ("Horror Business", "Teenagers From Mars") SIDE B (Boots..) - "Live '79" cont. - "Children In Heat" - Static Age Demos - BOOTLEG 7" of Mercury Studio Sessions ("Last Caress", "TV Casualty", "Some Kinda Hate", "We are 138", "Static Age", "Hybrid Moments", "Teenagers From Mars") - A Walk Among the Dead - 7" BOOTLEG of "Walk Among Us" Demos ("Astro Zombies", "Nike A Go Go", "All Hell Breaks Loose", "Devil's Whorehouse", "Halloween", "Halloween", "Vampira", "I Turned Into A Martian") - Vault of Horror - 7" BOOTLEG of "Earth AD" Sessions ("Earth AD" - instumental, "We Bite", "Demonomania" - Fiends Forever - live at Max's Kansas City BOOTLEG ("All Hell Breaks Loose", "Last Caress", "Hatebreeders", "Teenagers From Mars", "I Turned Into a Martian", "We Are 138") THAT WOULD BE ALL!!! Be sure to thank EVB because all of these recordings are drawn from her private collection - JUST FOR YOU, KNUCKLEHEAD!!! Also, for those who want both the video and audio, I DO ship them separately....so don't worry about me holding the audio or anything. To order these recordings, or to ask questions: see TMB #69. Later - Brent E. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing addres is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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