Misfits Bible, Number 81 Thursday, May 11th 1995 Today's Topics: shirts Bible #78/Kryst the Conq. night of the living dead MISc.FITS stuff. Re: Misfits & punk... tribute HANG IN THERE!!!! ... tribute RE:bullshit talk SamHain! WWW Page update ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:40:59 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: shirts First of all thanks to djacobs for posting the pamphlet about the Black Panthers. This issue ranks up there in importance with the wrongful imprisonment of Leonard Peltier in terms of our wonderful government (read: police state) and its fascist bullshit. I urge everyone who cares about..ahem..LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR *ALL* (not just white bread conservative republican fuckheads) to support imprisoned Panthers as well as Leonard Peltier. But enough ranting and raving. Second and finally, I'd like to address this issue of shirts and their seemingly overwhelming cost. You don't have to buy the shirt! You are essentially paying the band to let you give them free advertising, anyway. If you don't like the price but still want a shirt, then fucking make one! It's pretty easy and you can customize it to your personal specifications. You can either silk screen (an extremely easy yet somewhat pricey method) or draw a shirt all by yourself! Permanent markers, ie. Sharpie(TM), are perfect for this and you can get blank T-shirts at a thrift store or department store for well under $5. Whether or not Jerry and Doyle's shirts cost $25 to make (which I personally doubt) is irrelevant when you consider how cheaply you can make them yourself. Solidarity bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 12:53:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Tyler Subject: Bible #78/Kryst the Conq. Hey All! Anyone care to make a recording of Kryst the Conq.and/or Samhain for me? (Open to negotiations, e-mail me please!) Also, to the person who suggested a convention I hope you can pull it off because it would be cool to see everyone get together. I live on the west coast (Seattle) and would like to attend. Keep us posted! Later... --Lisa L. Tyler PO BOX 2741 SILVERDALE, WA. 98383-2741 ltyler@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 20:31:07 -0500 From: Lord Valgamon I guess I don't know how lucky I really am... Kryst The Conqueror's EP "Deliver Us from Evil" is available at a local record shop for about $15. First I found the gold _Earth AD_ CD and now this! Bye bye paycheck! :) Also, about t-shirts... I found two EXCELLENT ones in my area. The first one has the _Legacy of Brutality_ cover on the front, with the "skeleton Glenn" on the back, and both sides have the Misfits logo (one colored in, one not). The other has the Samhain skull/logo and the _Initium_ cover on the front, with what APPEARS to be an original variation on the _Die Die..._ cover art on the back! (The girl is holding five playing cards, four are Aces and the fifth is a tarot-like "Death" card), with that same Samhain logo and skull. Both are black, 100% cotton and XL. The Samhain one appears to be readily available (they had quite a few in stock), but the _Legacy_ one was the last/only one there. However, I BELIEVE it is available through cdnow.com. I paid ~$15 for both of these, as well as an Amorphis shirt (if anyone cares) and I am more than satisfied. They are both in full color (or as much as is called for) and very high quality. I also found a negative of "the skull" in my school's graphic arts department and I will be screening and pressing a few shirts with it, as well as some of the GIFs available on Mark's WWW page. I agree about the black panther stuff. While I agree with the wrongness of political activists being imprisoned, I also agree with the fact that the post was off-topic. Take it to an appropriate forum, please. Thank you. Playlist: Pennywise _Pennywise_ Misfits _Walk Among Us_ Bad Religion _80-85_ Jawbreaker _24 Hour Revenge Therapy_ "In /dev/null, no one can hear you scream." ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: night of the living dead Date: Wed, 10 May 95 11:03:52 MESZ i have an original copy of night of the living dead 7" for trade (preferably) or sale. it's pretty much in mint condition. it's one of the rarer misfits 7"s, only 2000 made. let me know if you're interested. cheers flex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 12:59:33 -0700 From: Brian Miller Subject: MISc.FITS stuff. About the Devilock thing, Yeah, it helps to put something in your hair. Before I bleeched the hell out of my hair, it wouldn't stay togeather well at all. SO I used to put liquid hand soap in my devilock. it allways worked great for me. But now, I just don't wash my hair. that works even better. About the bible convention: I'd like to go, but I'll have a hell of a time trying to get there from California. ohwell. Danzig?: Somebody should start a Danzig mailing list. I really am not interested in hearing about danzigs shows, or danzig-post-misfits anything. Or samhain. Isn't this the Misfits mailing list? He's playing wolverine in the X-men movie, btw. I want one of the cover tapes when it's done. ------------------------------ From: Part@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 22:15:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits & punk... In my opinion, and that of others I know, the Misfits are not punk, not in the true sense of the word, like the Sex Pistols or the Clash. Of course, lyrics like these are not exactly the normal love song fare, and I suppose that is a sort of rebellion against the establishment. Even more creative lyric writers like Led Zeppelin or Sabbath never made the foray into lyrics involving homicide-promoting mothers, horror movies, and of course, martians. Just like the "true" punk, it was stripped down, hard, furious, melodic, and very much against the huge stadium acts who always talked to the crowd and tuned onstage. Johnny Ramone said, "I used to _hate_ it when bands would tak to the audience--tell me to get off my chair and clap my hands." Hence, the 1-2-3-4! thing which the Ramones did and the Misfits adopted. So, in essence, they are punk, without being literally punk. (if that makes sense) Better stop or I could go on forever ___________________________ Lord Valgamon: Sorry to be the one to point this out, but... Superock=Saturday, 5/6 Misfits Bible=Tuesday, 5/9 ___________________ Vlad Tempes Vlad Tempes ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 23:35:30 -0400 Subject: tribute come on guys you know you want to get in on this tribute! also, make the recordings good. what you send is going to be heard by probably most of the bible. like brent said about his band, take pride in what you put out. you guys already know the deal. e-mail me band's name...song(s)... thanks Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: ScottEyes@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:31:16 -0400 Subject: HANG IN THERE!!!! Hey Fiends, Whoopdee friggin' doo - I'm on America Online now. bce104@psu.edu is now dead, so any personal correspondance should be sent to the above address (for now). Any mail sent to bce104 after May 5 was not received... Well, I'm writing to let everyone know that the videos are in progress and that I'm not headed off to Canada or something with all your checks. Six have been completed as of today, but I'm hoping to quicken the tempo (the vid is two hours long!!!). So PLEASE be patient because I can only dub one at a time. It's worth the wait. I guess I'll get right back to dubbing instead of toiling over this computer (it's not free anymore!). Later - Brent E. ------------------------------ From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 17:55:32 +0400 (EET-DST) Subject: ... Hi all! I'm sure that some of you might have heard about FLEX the HC/Punk zine (hardly a zine...). I recently found out (by coincidence to say the least...) that it's actually done by... flex who's of course a member of this Bible!! So, If you haven't already, check it out now! It's definitely worth it!! It's HUGE (around 1Mb compressed, +2Mb uncompressed). It's got *thousands* of reviews of Punk/HC records (US mainly, some Canadian too). When I got it , it was still in the /pub/incoming/lists directory of ftp.uwp.edu , filename : flexbook.zip Just thought, I'd let you know... Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos IOANNIS.NIKOLOPOULOS@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### --It's better to regret something you *have* done than ### ### to regret something that you *haven't* done-- B.S ------------------------------ From: ScottEyes@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:50:27 -0400 Subject: tribute Really quick... Greg - We are not spending three months on the tribute, it's just that we're not going into the studio until late July! How in the world can anybody spend 3 months trying to perfect a Misfits song? We'll do one or two takes and get it out to Mike and Don ASAP. OR we might even send in a live version, who knows. I just wanted you to know that we're not doing some souped-up, 72 track oh-so-pretty version of a two minute song. And some parts have been re-written so that it sounds like the Smackerals of Hunny and not the Smackerals of Hunny trying to do the Misfits! Thanks... - Brent E ------------------------------ From: RMack6@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 13:11:00 -0400 Subject: RE:bullshit talk greetings and salutations!! my name is Joel Mahler. i am 17. i am a definate MISFITS fan, and have been for about 7 years. is it true that they are coming back? and if so when? will the fiend club be reinstated? if yes sign me up!! who will do the vocals if glenn is not there? what is the main reason for the MISFITS re-birth? is ROBO still on death row? well i have to get back to class... i am in high school... on my teacher's computer... sorry about the shortness of the letter but it is out of my control... spasmolytic P.S. write back if you guys can...are you guys going to re-release EVILIVE the double tape version? RMck6 is only the screen name...it has nothing to do with my identity... ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 22:46:14 -0400 Subject: SamHain! Is it me or is there not nearly enough SamHain stuff out there? As far as boots, interviews, even material...I always find myself wanting MORE MORE MORE--(Iron Maiden "From Here To Eternity") Anyways, I'm sure a lot of you feel this way, so I'd like to share this article I recently found. It's from Flipside #45, and I hope you guys dig it! I apologize for any type-os on my part. SAMHAIN SamHain may be a new band to some, but the characters in this band have acheived legendary status to others. First and most noteworthy is lead singer, songwriter, guitarist Glenn Danzig. A former founding member of the infamous Misfits, and head of Plan 9 records (Misfits and Samhain label). Glenn is the mastermind at transforming the suspense and terror found in the best horror films, from splatter to a foggy crypt, into a personal musical and lyrical experience. Sure he carries a lot from the Misfits tradition, but that parting was more because of personal then musical reasons. On bass we know Eerie Von, who was best known for his drumming in Rosemary's Babies. They had an ep out on their own Gastly Records. The ep shows why Eerie first in Samhain so perfectly, check out titles like "Blood Lust" "Let's Molest" "Sanctioned Violence" etc.... Steve Zing is Samhain's drummer, before that he was an original member of Mourning Noise, a NJ band who had one single out titled "Mourning Noise", Damian plays guitar, and was also in Mourning Noise briefly. Al: Where did you dig up the name Samhain? Glenn: Samhain is the real halloween--the season of the dead. It sort of signifies the death of the Misfits, and the rise of Samhain. Samhain is something I personally was into and still am. Al: Did Samhain start out with Lyle and Brian of Minor Threat? Glenn: No, that's untrue. I started Samhain w/Eerie and worked Lyle in later. The band with Lyle and Brian never went past 2 try out rehearsals. Lyle played the first Samhain show and we never called him again. Al: Are you happy with the way things are going after a U.S. tour? Glenn: Personally, we all feel that things could always be better than they are no matter how good things get. On the first tour people obviously wanted to hear stuff off of Earth A.D. But on the second tour they came to see Samhain. Al: Does anyone yell for Rosemary's Babies songs? Eerie: In Chicago someone yelled out for "Let's Molest". Al: As far as lyrics go, I didn't notice a big change between Samhain over the Misfits... Glenn: Lyrically things have changed far more drastically than you've noticed. They lyrics are more challenging and severe than they've ever been. Al: How important do you think the stage look is in the overall picture? Eerie: At least 50% Steve: As much as the music. Glenn: At least as important as the music in our band. Al: With the subject matter that Samhain deals with, it seems it would be easy for you guys to slip a few pentagrams into your art work.... Glenn: Al, you asshole, why tag a Satanic tag on us if you don't know what you're talking about? Al: I'm just asking why not. Glenn: I do a lot of research into my subjects and many things people think are Satanic are not. Eerie: Rather than have to just think about our stuff it's easy to just lump it in with all the other crap. Al: Ok, then what do you think of bands like Motley Crue who do play up the Satanic imagery stuff? Glenn: The music is okay, except for the vocals, but their fake image had been done to death. Regardless of your image of us, we do not play up a Satanic imagery thing and we do not use pentagrams. Al: I don't think of you that way at all, I guess the difference is between real and staged horror? Glenn: Yes, that's as far as it goes. Al: No devilworshippers.... Glenn: No devilworshippers. Al: What do you think about god worshippers religion? Glenn: I hate organized religions. Eerie: Organized religion has too many rules.... Al: What are some of the things that have inspired recent songs? Glenn: Good and evil and the constant struggle between them. People's unwillingness to accept life and death. Al: I know you like horror flicks, what makes a good one in your eyes? Glenn: Blood and suspense. Al: Do you think that anti-female themes run through a lot of them? Glenn: No, I don't. Just as many men, if not more, are killed in gore flicks as women. Al: Who's your favorite director? Glenn: Cronenberg. Al: Why do you hate Stephen King so much? Glenn: Because he is lightweight when it comes to horror and I've read stories by other authors that he steals from. Al: What ever happened to the soundtrack you were doing for Bloodfeast 2? Glenn: I'm still doing the soundtrack to it--as soon as it gets into production. Al: Eerie, what ever happened to Rosemary's Babies? Eerie: Everyone lost interest but me. That's about the time Glenn and I formed Samhain. We both had the same problems with our bands. Al: Were you friends with the Misfits? Eerie: Yes we were friends. I went to school w/Doyle. Al: Did you handcolor all of the Rosemary's Babies singles covers? Eerie: Yes, I handcolored all 1000 of them. Al: Why did you move from the drums to bass? Eerie: I felt more of a showman and needed to be able to go off. I also play a little keyboards. Al: Have you ever robbed graves? Glenn: Yes! Al: Commited murder? Anonymous: Yes Al: Molested 10 year old girls? Glenn: No Al: Hacked the heads off of little girls and hung them on your wall? Glenn: No.... Al: Had visits from ghosts? Glenn: Yavol Al: Messed w/tarot cards (back of lp) or crystal balls? Glenn: No..... Al: Experienced haunted houses? Glenn: Yessir! Al: I'm assuming Glenn writes all of the lyrics? Glenn: Yes... Al: What do the rest of you think of his lyrics? Eerie: I've always admired his lyrics. Al: Will you write any lyrics in the future. Steve: No.... Al: What do you want to do w/Samhain? Steve: I'd like to be the first band to make it and not sell out. Eerie: I want to get on Carson. Glenn: I want to do what I want musically, lyrically--make a living and not prostitute my music. Al: Samhain is really into audience participation when you play live, do you ever feel like you sacrifice performance for that contact? Glenn: No, it's part of the live thing, but sometimes it gets hectic on stage (especially in L.A.) Al: Do you write any songs with catchy choruses for the sing along thing? Glenn: No, none of our songs are written purposely like that. For example, in "He-Who-Cannot-Be-Named" everyone sings the backup melody at our shows. You never know what people will pick up. Al: Tell us about the new record? Glenn: It's a 5 song 12 inch called "Unholy Passion". "Unholy Passion" is the first song I've written totally about sex, fucking, etc...The ep also includes some stuff we do live like "Moribund", "The Hungry End" and it also includes our version of "All Hell Breaks Loose". "I Am Misery" is about misery as an entity whose sole purpose and being is to fuck your life up by causing you personal grief and pain. Al: When you die what do you want your tombstone? Steve: I want to be put in a drawer, I don't want bugs and dirt all over me. Al: What do you want to be remembered for? Glenn aand Eerie: We want to be cremated. Glenn: It's too early in our lives to be remembered for anything. (Author's Note: This interview was awkward because it was done thru the post--but now that we have the basicas maybe I can do a good live interview in the near future) Hey all, I hope you dig it! And I hope this hasn't been posted before and I just forgot about it.... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 15:05:04 -0400 From: She Subject: WWW Page update Before I went home, I did a few updates on the page. It's got the current version of the discographies, with some new acetate discoveries in the Misfits Official releases section. Also check out the Samhain page with Netscape 1.1 if you can. And I'll be talking to Steve Zing of Samhain this weekend, so if you guys have any Samhain questions let me know and I'll ask him. Also, for those fiends out there who will be doing email over the summer, the Bible may switch to a once a week format if the mail intake is slow, so don't worry if it doesn't come sometimes.... Mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 82 Tuesday, May 16th 1995 Today's Topics: samhain interview comments price of shirts HEY ROOKIE!! Chords/Playlist convention DANZIG Rip-Off for da bible, Re: Bible Conference poll Weird Some Comments... Crystar the Crystal Warrior #8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 16:10:31 -0400 Subject: samhain interview thanks, chris for that interview! it was a really cool. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach playlist: misfits- beware and the rest,boot samhain-initium black sabbath-paranoid danzig-4p minor threat-discography (rotate the danzig related stuff often) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) From: andrew r dixon Subject: comments hello everyone, this will probably be my last post for at least a couple of weeks since i am leaving school. once i find another computer to get here i will contribute my opinions. anyway, what is that about robo being on death row? that is the first thing i have ever heard about that. also that interview with samhain was cool. i never knew brian and lyle from minor threat tried out for them. minor threat is my favorite band (aside from the misfits of course) so that is interesting info. now that i have more time on my hands i will get to see more shows and travel more. i am excited that the bible convention might be held around d.c./ baltimore. it would be great to meet alot of you. well, until i find a new computer dungeon, -Andychrist ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 17:51:06 -0400 From: "Paula O'Keefe" Subject: price of shirts Part of the reason that the new 'fits shirts cost $25 is probably that they were done from paintings by Basil Gogos, specially commissioned for the band. Gogos did all the classic 1960s covers for "Famous Monsters of Filmland" and is a top horror illustrator - he can probably charge a good pile of change for an original painting, especially one done to your specs. Even if they hired him on their settlement $$ from Glenn, they'd probably like to make some of that back. (or, alternately, they're betting they can sell a few to horror art collectors, and people in that category are used to spending plenty for cool stuff. Right, Bat?) ==angelynx== pastor/priestess of the Mystery Science Church of the New American Hoodoo ------------------------------ From: ScottEyes@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:04:53 -0400 Subject: HEY ROOKIE!! Hey Fiends, Well, it seems like more and more new members continue to pour in with all sorts of old questions that have been beat to death in previous issues. Once again, I URGE all of you new fiends to check out the Pit, Mark's Misfits/Samhain homepage. You will find ALL of your answers there (just check out the FAQs!!). There are also discographies (damn good ones I might add!) as well as EVERY BACK ISSUE OF THE BIBLE... So take a couple hours and get yourself up to date. The address always appears at the end of every issue - USE IT! New stuff is constantly being added. Finally, about t-shirts and Bloodboy's post, the best way to make homemade shirts is to get your hands on an Iron-on transfer pen (Sulky makes the best). These things run about $5.00, come in all colors, and all you have to do is draw your design on a piece of white typing paper (backwards) and iron it on the shirt. The ink is good for 3 separate shirts, but you can always go over the design on the paper again or re-trace it, whatever. Since I'm going to the post office everyday already with the audios and videos - if anybody really can't find one of these pens and wants one, send me some personal e-mail and we'll talk about getting one out to you. And kudos to Bloodboy for pointing out the underlying message behind that Black Panther post. It's not about supporting hate, but rather about fighting for the innocent/first amendment rights, etc. What's more "punk" than writing some angry letters to the gov't? -Brent E. p.s. Seven years ago, when I sported a devilock, I used that mousse shit... If you can't get that stuff anymore, try an application of gel and then a coating of hairspray. Wow, somebody who didn't know what we were talking about might think this is another bomb recipe. Hello America Online people! Fertilizer! Fertilizer! Fertilizer! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:09:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Chords/Playlist Ok those Misfits chords are really nice, really cool and such but I think they should be more acurate. Some people consider chords slightly differently and such. It would of been easier if the author put in TABS for each chord so we'd have something to reference to. Its just not that easy to follow. The only songs I can get to sound right out of those chords is "London Dungeon" and "We Are 138" and even that doesn't sound totally right. If anyone can help me out here I would be most apreciative. Also for playlists right now I have 5 cd's I am listening to heavily Misfits - Misfits 1,039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours - Green Day Dawn Of The Undead - The Undead Rust In Peace - Megadeth Evilive - Misfits (ok its a tape!) ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:44:22 -0400 Subject: convention why not two or three conventions? east, west, and central. or even more and have somebody report on each to the bible? but have them on different days so anyone who want's to go to all or a few can. just an idea. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: Cyberpig2@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 23:23:37 -0400 Subject: DANZIG Rip-Off This is my first post here in the misfits bible, so I'll make this short. I was in a record store the other day and saw an album that completely ripped-off the cover of Danzig I. The only difference was the skull was a Yoda(Star Wars), and the logo was exactly the same, does anyone know what the hell this is? -Sir KM (CYBER-PIG RECORDS) ------------------------------ From: GoatboyAK@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 19:39:58 -0400 Subject: for da bible, does anyone know where i can get anything from "ROSEMARIES' BABIES", , also does anyone have an extra copy, or know where i can get an authentic KRYST THE CONQUEROR tape,...... oh was this only released on tape???? if anyone would like to trade me for something, i have two (2) "LIVE! 79 THE PERFECT CRIME!" vinyl stickers, signed by bobby steele, plaese if you any rare misfit/samhain/danzig/kryst the conqeuror/undead/mourning noise/rosemaries baby/glenn danzig, stuff i would love to trade w/ you thanxxx goat- p.s. I ALSO HAVE A FEW COPIES OF A SAMHAIN BOOT, CALLED "ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HELL", IT IS 5 LIVE SONGS, EXCELLENT SOUND TOO, I AM SELLING THEM FOR $18.00 EACH, post paid... adam kriney 36 jackson st. #2 long branch, new jersey 07740 GoatboyAK@aol.com ------------------------------ From: ChloeAlvin@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 21:55:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Bible Conference I love the whole idea! I live like an hour and a half from DC, nothing could be more perfect. Keep us updated, we're all looking forward to it. Emily _my mirrors are black_ ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 19:19:06 -0400 Subject: poll to keep it a little interesting this summer, let's take a poll. vote for your favorite misfits/samhain/danzig song. pick just one. we'll start voting now and continue until we think it's a good idea to. june or july i would think. anybody want to keep tally? if not i guess i get the job. i know it sounds corny so i'm sure the torches are fired up but hey, got any better ideas?! so bring it on, i don't mind the pain. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 23:37:39 -0400 Subject: Weird Hey all, A friend of mine was at a Danzig show recently and had an experience, which she felt concerned about. She asked if I thought all of it was true, and I'm not sure, so I figured I'd ask you. Like a lot of people, she went back after the show to meet Glenn, which she did. Then she hung around for a while, and a roadie came by to ask why she was there. She made a comment about wanting to get on the bus. Well, the roadie told her that the band was pouring hot wax on women and taking pictures. She was freaked out. Then he invited her onto the bus. Since she was scared she said no. Now, the question she had for me and all of you is: Was the roadie lying? I don't know, personally. I can see reasons for both. So, tell me what you think and I'll relay the message. Bad new Chicago people: Just heard White Zombie on Q101 Chris ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 00:00:48 -0400 Subject: Some Comments... To Brian Miller: The Bible concerns The Misfits *and all related bands.* May I suggest a little summer reading; like the previous 80 editions of the bible! Oh yeah, I like to keep an open mind about the stuff that people post. We all have different interests, so if folks want to discuss the amount of 'dippity-do in their devilocks', so be it. Remember, you can always skip over the parts that aren't your particular cup-of-tea. Besides, if we only discuss the Misfits, maybe you'd like to tell us what to discuss; perhaps the number of times per day we listen to each song, etc.? Be real... To CTernes: Thanks a million for the Samhain interview--that was really cool! Please post any other old interviews in your possession & *all naysayers be damned!!* I like the idea of a "convention." Perhaps they can be arranged by geographic area, as it might be too difficult for all to converge on the same location. I live in Connecticut... Also, I LOVE the idea of a tape of Misfits cover tunes. I personally wouldn't mind hearing a few Samhain tunes--how about "In My Grip," "Lords of the Left Hand" or "Let The Day Begin." Oh well, it's just a thought...are Chris & I the only Samhain devotees here??? PDH ------------------------------ From: HororHotel@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 00:09:40 -0400 Subject: Crystar the Crystal Warrior #8 Hell-o all... I made a trip to my parents' house today and dug through my old comic collection and guess what I found- Crystar #8. For those of you that don't know, this is the comic where Glenn got the trademark Danzig/Samhain skull. Does anyone know if Glenn got this legally? Did he contact the artist and properly license the use of the drawing, or did he just swipe it? There is no doubt that this is the exact same skull, down to the last line on the face. The picture on the cover has nothing to do with the story inside, in fact, the hero on the cover looks nothing at all like he does on the inside. The skull guy isn't a character or even a location in the story or anything. The story sucks too, just standard G rated comic book fantasy fare; the only notable thing about the whole series is the cover of this issue. If I remeber right, the only reason for this comic book was to promote a line of action figures. I scanned it and made a JPEG and I'd like to send it to our generous host for the web site, but crappy old AOL won't let me send an attatched file to an internet address. Is there anyone out there with an AOL account and a separate internet account who I could send the file to and pass it on? E-mail me if you can help. I've got some other cool pictures I could send, too, including one of the Doyle fan club ad that ran in RIP magazine. Is there a page at the web site for articles and interivews? I've only been to the web site a couple of times, but I dont' remember seeing one. If not that would be a cool addition. I've seen a couple of old articles typed up in the bible here and I hope that anyone else with old interviews will be willing to type them up and post them in here. I just dug out the Winter '89 issue of Flipside and there's an interview with Bobby Steele which mostly talks about the Misfits. I haven't read Bibles #31 - #59 yet, so if someone had already posted this, please let me know, otherwise I'll type it up and post it here in a week or so. Later! (anti)Christian Hunter McClain a.k.a. C HunterMc@aol.com ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Kryst CD rare stuff for sale Art for the tribute ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Hahn Subject: convention Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 10:34:02 -0400 (EDT) hi, haven't posted for a while, finals. i agree with whoever said we should have multiple conventions, some of us could drive to dc, but gas for a crown v would suck, also i work. i think a central convention in maybe indiana, ohio, illinios would work, but if not and anyoine in the midwest needs a ride let me know. -- Paul Hahn "...my life would be so groovy.. hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu if i owned an uzi.." http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul -gangster fun ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 10:36:19 -0700 From: Ricky Hinojos Subject: TABs TABs 5/16/95 Gabriel Palczewski has problems with TAB: > Ok those Misfits chords are really nice, really cool and such but > I think they should be more acurate. Some people consider chords slightly > differently and such. It would of been easier if the author put in TABS > for each chord so we'd have something to reference to. Its just not that > easy to follow. The only songs I can get to sound right out of those > chords is "London Dungeon" and "We Are 138" and even that doesn't sound > totally right. If anyone can help me out here I would be most apreciative. What type of chords do you think they are? Minor thirds with major 7ths and sus 13ths? I thought someone on the Bible went over the fact that unless it says so, all the TAB chords are "power" chords. Let's take "bullet" for example: D C F D. That means: fifth fret, A string, "power" chord. Then move your hand rather quickly (try not to slide) to the third fret. Once again, form a "power" chord. A little faster this time, move up to the eighth fret (don't slide!), A string and, that's right, another "power" chord. And return to D. Are you tuning to standard? Are you tuning at all? "london dungeon" is only the guitar; I haven't added the bass part yet. In fact, I kinda want someone else to do it. It's not that tough to figure out. "we are 138" only sounds funny because it's from a wobbly vinyl record. The chords and solo are correct. As are 90% of the TAB Rob and I have put on that page. Don't take it personally, Gabriel. This post is pretty much for everyone with TAB problems. ------------------------------ From: DelJ@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 15:30:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #82 To Chris: Without bagging on you or yer friend lemme ask you this: If your friend (the girl) had already met Glenn, then why did she want to go on the bus??? Think about it, if the backstage area is going to serve as a "meet and greet" area, then where can the band members have privacy? The bus. Whether they're offering sacrifices, pouring hot wax (doubtful) on volunteers, or just resting is nobodys business!!!! People seem to think that just because they have a little interaction with "stars" they can go anywhere or do anything or even worse that they're OWED something. Shouldn't we care more about respecting an artist's privacy more than what's going on behind closed doors? Cya Del EVA: Did you receive my CARE package??? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 15:24:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Deana Greenfield Subject: chicago radio hey chris what are you doing listening to Q101 anyway? :> deana ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 20:21:46 -0400 Subject: cyber talk did anyone read the danzig thing on cyber talk or whatever? i did if anyone on aol wants it i can send it to you. sorry internet guys! i know chris did! he got a question in. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 23:21:18 -0400 Subject: favorites okay here are my votes: misfits: we are 138 samhain: he-who-can-not-be-named danzig: twist of cane misc. glenn related: you and me this was very hard to decide but i have to go with these ------------------------------ From: ols@home.interaccess.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 20:57:30 -0600 Subject: Samhain covers > Bad new Chicago people: Just heard White Zombie on Q101 > Chris Hey Chris!! Why the hell are you listening to Q101!!? :D >Are Chris & I the only Samhain devotees here??? > > PDH Nossir... Samhain was my first love...I like the idea of Samhain covers.. Speaking of Samhain... Since Danzig IS Samhain-- just with a new name-- Why doesn't Danzig play EARLY Danzig(Samhain)? .. Eeeeevil Don-- Favorite songs: Misfits- Theme for a Jackal Samhain- Archangel (By far!!) Danzig- Going Down to Die --Greg ------------------------------ From: GoatboyAK@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 21:51:47 -0400 Subject: sorry if these ques. are repeats please put this in the bible. -------------------------------------- does anyone know the origin of the song RATFINK? i was in a record store in NYC and they had a whole bunch of Ratfink t-shirts, i asked the guy there, and he said that it was either the name of a local tatooer or a local tatooer's design.and the picture of the RAT of each shirt was basically the same, except for diff designs, and these are identical to the picture of RAT on a misfits boot, entitled RATFINK..any one have any answers?? also whay do they spell ratfink "R-A-T-F-I-N-K", when it is sung "R-A-T-T-F-I-N-K" ALSO---- I AM SO LOST WHEN IT COMES TO THIS WHOLE world wide web THING, i need someone to reaaly give me complete step-by-steb directions of how to get/download it???i am not that AOL knowledgeable, so i need very basic instructions...if you can possibly direct me to someone else for directions...whatever i need to find this thing.666 thanxxx GoatboyAK@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Hunnysmack@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 21:00:38 -0400 Subject: new addresses etc. Hi Fiends, Once again, I have changed addresses. bce104@psu.edu is dead and now ScottEyes@aol.com is dead as well. Do not send any more correspondence to these addresses because I will not receive them. Please send all mail, questions, skulls, whatever to my new address - hunnysmack@aol.com - Also - this is just a reminder that EVB is the one "in charge" of the DC/Maryland convention and that she is currently on the road following Danzig around - so just be patient and she'll shed light on the situation when she gets back from getting "candlewax poured on her"..... yeah right. The videos and audios are steadily leaving the house - still lots to go, though. Some of your letters just get me so stoked, especially the ones from little kids who talk about their little Misfits clubs at school, etc. There's also lots of military people who are into the Misfits I'm finding - that's cool. Man - there are so many decent people on this list it's unbelievable. Finally, this is just a reminder that anyone who wishes to get on the Smackerals of Hunny mailing list should send in all relevant info to the address above or send slow mail to: Smackerals of Hunny 2005 Monitor Dr. Stafford, VA 22554. We just fired up some new promotional stickers and other goodies that we'll be getting out to everyone within the next few weeks. Hope everyone is relaxing at this point and that school is long gone for now... - Brent E. ps - Just for the hell of it, I'm listening to: Samuel - Lives of Insects EP Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary SNFU - The Ones Most Likely to Succeed Helmet - Wilma's Rainbow EP Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Singles Box Set ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 10:43:33 -0700 (MST) From: cep@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (Mario and Ellie) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #82 Hello... This is our first post so I guess it's sort of an introduction to all of you who will be sticking around over the summer. We are stuck here in Flagstaff, Arizona, which pretty much sucks. Usually we have to drive 2 or 3 hours just to find Misfits vinyl (if we're lucky). Yet somehow we've managed to get pretty good collections anyway. We have read several back issues, so I think we're kind of caught up on what's going on with all of you. Is the Bible convention still being talked about? That sounds really cool, if it happens. We're hoping to make a trip to the east coast this summer, if at all possible. Well, I guess that's enough for now. Two questions: has anyone out there heard of/own a video called Creepy Compilation? Also, does anyone have a copy of that recent radio interview with Jerry and Doyle? Please let us know - We'd love to get copies of those. Seeya... -Mario and Ellie Mario and Ellie Office of Grant and Contract Services, Box 4130 Northern Arizona University Flagstaff, AZ 86011-4130 520-523-8288 FAX 520-523-1075 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 95 17:10:02 PDT From: "C. Eng" Subject: ...no subject... >> Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:09:07 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Gabriel Palczewski >> Subject: Chords/Playlist >> >> Ok those Misfits chords are really nice, really cool and such but >> I think they should be more acurate. ^^^^^^^ >...................Hee Hee, now that's funny!!! OK, I know it's only a typo but :) >> Some people consider chords slightly >> differently and such. It would of been easier if the author put in TABS >> for each chord so we'd have something to reference to. Its just not that >> easy to follow. The only songs I can get to sound right out of those >> chords is "London Dungeon" and "We Are 138" and even that doesn't sound >> totally right. If anyone can help me out here I would be most apreciative Even if you watch the videos to see what chord positions the guitarist play, you still won't get it to sound 100% right. Use your best judgment, if it doesn't sound right in one position, try another. I usually find that when you have to tune your guitar to the guitar on the record/cd/single you can get it to sound exact or pretty darn close. Mail me if you need any help on a particular song, I know them all fairly well, but have only posted one to the Misfits Book (Hellhound) since Robert and Ricky already had the rest of them up there already. ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 23:37:08 -0400 Subject: misfits room how come nobody's ever in the misfits private room? Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #82 Date: Tue, 16 May 95 23:55:40 EDT > From: HororHotel@aol.com > Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 00:09:40 -0400 > Subject: Crystar the Crystal Warrior #8 > > I scanned it and made a JPEG and I'd like to send it to our generous host > for the web site, but crappy old AOL won't let me send an attatched file to > an internet address. Is there anyone out there with an AOL account and a > separate internet account who I could send the file to and pass it on? > E-mail me if you can help. I've got some other cool pictures I could send, > too, including one of the Doyle fan club ad that ran in RIP magazine. Good, please send this. All I have is a black and white photocopy. > Is there a page at the web site for articles and interivews? I've only > been to the web site a couple of times, but I dont' remember seeing one. If > not that would be a cool addition. I've seen a couple of old articles typed > up in the bible here and I hope that anyone else with old interviews will be > willing to type them up and post them in here. I just dug out the Winter '89 > issue of Flipside and there's an interview with Bobby Steele which mostly > talks about the Misfits. I haven't read Bibles #31 - #59 yet, so if someone > had already posted this, please let me know, otherwise I'll type it up and > post it here in a week or so. What an idea. My roommate actually suggested this the other day. I will try to work on it soon. I've run out of memory space in my account, but I'm going to figure something out. I have a lot of stuff typed up and would love more interviews. Please type up that Bobby intervieew if you don't mind. It hasn't been here yet.... mark ------------------------------ From: PumroyKJ98%CS28%USAFA@cadetmail3.usafa.af.mil Date: Tue, 16 May 95 11:01:26 MDT Subject: first time hello all who's left, it seems everybody's gone for the summer, with those left having not much to talk about right now. I thought I'd just babble about the first time I was exposed to Danzig. I was in 6th grade and I watched (as well as videotaped) almost every headbangers ball. I remember seeing the video for Twist of Cain, and thinking "woh, these guys are totally evil, they scare me!". I think maybe the week after and for a while after, there were commercials by Def American advertising the new releases of Danzig "featuring Mother!" and Slayer's "new" South of Heaven. boy that was a long time ago. You know what, I'm almost positive back home I still have that commercial on tape. I wonder if that would be worth anything to anybody. I'd keep it if it was or wasn't. anyway, hearing Twist of Cain back then really attracted me to them. Then a month or so later I visited my best friend who lived in another town. He had Danzig 1, which had prompted him to find and buy Samhain Initium on Vinyl. So, I was actually exposed to Danzig and Samhain ever before Misfits. My very first exposure to Misfits was at a Metallica concert (sorry, but it's true) when they played Last Caress, which I hadn't heard before, and I've been hooked ever since. I think the first few Bibles talked about stuff like this, but if there's not much to talk about over the summer, let's hear some other good stories. BTW, my favorites are: Hatebreeders, the Howl, and Possession. I think this has been done before too. and to make this even longer, here's my present play list: Danzig: 4p Tool: opiate Johnny Cash: Classic Cash Samhain: III Fight: war of words later everybody, Pum ------------------------------ From: ewebb@yorkcol.edu Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 20:51:03 EST Subject: fav songs here we go... misfits-night of the living dead or horror hotel. can't pick just one samhain- the howl danzig- bringer of death-777 sorry i voted more than once, but i couldn't pick just one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 20:23:36 EDT From: MR JIM EVILIVE Subject: ........................................ That bible convention sounds cool, but since im only 16, ill probably won't be there unless i can walk to it, or someone gives me a ride. so anyway to the guy who said vote for you fav misfits/samhain/danzig songs, heres mine: Misfits: Bullet Samhain: Let The Day Begin Danzig: How The Gods Kill my playlist: Metallica-Kill 'Em All Metallica-Ride The Lightning Metallica-Master Of Puppets Dead Kennedys-Plastic Surgery Disaster Samhain-November Coming Fire Evilive ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 13:14:54 -0400 From: bloodboy Subject: bobby steele Hey, I just got a letter from Bobby and he said he got screwed over on the last Undead record. Someone didn't pay him or something like that. Anyway he said he's back on track now. I forget if he said if there's a new record or not. If anyone cares you can write him at the Post Mortem records address which I'll post if anyone wants it. bloodboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 95 12:25:46 PDT From: "C. Eng" Subject: bids thanx to everyone who enthusiastically acquired some of my Misfits/Samhain/Danzig extras collection. I believe everyone got a great deal. Next bible, I will post what they went for -total-. I do have a few things left if anyone's interested such as Undead-Act Your Rage LP (colored), Kryst the Conqueror (cassette), and maybe one or two live 7"'s. EvilDon: I would send you the name of my favorite Mis/Sam song but there are too many!! How about a top-three list?? (3 Favorite Misfits and 3 Favorite Samhain songs). yeah that'll work.. meybee. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 22:17:56 -0500 From: Lord Valgamon Greetings Earthlings, I just bought the s/t Misfits CD (PL9-CD1) ... believe it or not it's the last studio CD I needed to complete my collection (most people would buy it FIRST, not last, as I did). hee hee :) Anyway, my first impression is that these are DEFINITELY not the same songs (for the most part) that are on the other LP/CD's and the 7"s (from what I've heard on _hymns from hell_). Just about every song seems slowed down, and as if the EQ has been fooled with. It's ... weird. Maybe I'm just used to the raw brashness and speed of the material compiled on _hymns from hell_ but when I heard the version of Bullet on this CD I almost had to laugh. The differences aren't THAT noticeable, but they are definitely THERE. Anyone else notice this oddity? Anyway... I already asked Don about this, but I was wondering if you all think it would be a good deal to get a new copy of "Beware and the rest" on CD for $22, considering I already have all the available non-bootleg CD's as well as _Hymns from Hell_ and _Evilive_. Any input would be appreciated. Also, it has come to my attention that there is some Swedish (Finnish?) Misfits cover band that put out an entire 7" of misfits covers. Does anyone have any more information on this?? "ain't no mystery... why I'm in misery in hell..." playlist - misfits _misfits_, mindslam _mayday_, amebix _arise!_. ------------------------------ From: ChloeAlvin@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 20:03:21 -0400 Subject: Stickers! I'm selling misfits stickers. Here's the selection: #1- has the logo in white with four skulls under it with a black background (3 3/4" x 2 1/4") #2- Who Killed Marilyn (4" x 4") #3- the Fiend Club logo in B&W (4" x 4") #4- the Fiend Club logo in color (4 1/2" x 4 1/4") To buy one send $2 for each and a SASE to: Misfits Stickers 18 Fox Hunt Dr. Suite 492 Bear, DE 19701 thanks, Emily ------------------------------ From: HororHotel@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 01:30:20 -0400 Subject: Bobby Steele Flipside Interview 1989 Hey, am I the only one who didn't recieve a Bible on Thursday? I hope I didn't get bounced off of the list or something. Well here's that Flipside interview with Bobby Steele that I promised. These's also a great cover story on GWAR in this issue, and a really old picture of the Offspring. >From Flipside No. 58, Winter 1989 The Undead were interviewed at Raji's. Kirk: What's kept you from LA? Bobby: Money! And bands. The bands (Undead) gone through a lot of changes, these are the first guys worth taking the risk going on the road with. A lot of people, you know, don't want to do anything laid out, they don't want to give. Just take. Tim: We're seasoned vegetarians! Bobby: These guys are like... you know, pros! They know what's got to be done and they do it. Kirk: How long has this line up been together? Bobby: ...about four months now. Tony: Since May. Kirk: How long have you been on tour? Bobby: We've been in San Francisco about a week. Kirk: Your Gilman show was canceled? Bobby: No, that show didn't go down, we did the Covered Wagon instead and Sunday we were supposed to do a show at the Stone but we were in a car crash and ended up in the hospital instead. It was fucked! Tim: We did a sound check and came back- BOOM! Tony: We've got some great shots of him (Bobby) on a stretcher. Bobby: Had a collar on my neck/head taped down. Kirk: Are your tours always this exciting? Bobby: Yes! Kirk: So the last album you put out was just collection of singles? Bobby: Yeah, it was just singles and we added one extra cut on cassette that wasn't released. It's doing really good. It was released in Germany as an LP. They sold a couple of thousand copies out there, that they reported to us! They say it's out of print but we get mail all the time saying "it's in the stores" and shit. So they're just bullshitting us around but it's out and that's all I give a shit about. Tony: Now that there's a solid lineup we're going to put something out and tour like crazy. Do a lot of general areas, weeks at a time. Kirk: That stuff was pretty old, so you have new stuff? Bobby: Yeah! Lots! Tons! Kirk: You have a label interested? Bobby: It's a possibility! We have a label talking and they're supposed to come here tonight! As long as everybody gives a good reaction it will be good. Kirk: Oh, that was it, some guy told me that he saw you guys advertised as the Misfits. Tony: That wasn't our fault!! Kirk: I didn't think you guys would have anything to do with that. Bobby: That guy was going to cancel us. He called us last week and said he didn't want us coming because he talked to somebody that said the band sucked and didn't draw! So one person tells you that we suck and you listened to him. That one person is probably Glenn Danzig or Chris Lee (?). Tony: The guy was paranoid so he probably printed us as the Misfits just to draw. Bobby: We're opening for all, so what the fuck is he worried about? It's the funny thing about promoters, they will book some headlining act and give them $5000 bucks, then bring some other band to open for them and give them $100 and if it turns out bad, they blame it on the opening act! Kirk: What kind of respect do you get back in New York/New Jersey? Bobby: We get no respect! Tim: There's nobody to respect you back there anyways. Tony: We do better outside of where we live. Bobby: Outside New York. Once you get into New Jersey, Pennsylvania. Kirk: This line up has played a lot of shows? Tony: We've played a loooooooot of shows. We ain't fucking around. When I met Bobby, I finally met some one that was serious. Sand In The Face (his old band) were too busy smoking pot instead of licking stamps and shit and they were spacing. I always wanted to played hard. The guys in Newd (another side band), like Kake (?) from Sacred Denial... when he quit all I had was Gumby and he was a great character but he drinks too much and too much other shit.I need people that are serious. Those guys are fucking... Tim: I was in US Chaos and this is definitely serious. Kirk: So that's what kept you (Bobby) away... a serious line up? Bobby: Yeah. You know we've had interest from big labels, like Enigma and shit but the basic problem was the band wasn't getting out and playing enough. I think everything is going to work out real good. Kirk: What do you think of the Danzig stuff? Bobby: What I heard was good. I talked to a lot of people and everyone hates it. It's good, but it's not what you'd expect out of a ...Misfit. Kirk: Don't you think that it's absurd that people still follow him around? Bobby: When we're a better band, yeah! Kirk: ...when you guys play more rock and roll which is what made the Misfits what they were. Bobby: Well, I think I can say this, let him fucking sue me. I hope he does. He did everything to hold the Undead back and I say it because I can prove it. I've got interviews, Thrasher magazines, bootleg records where he says shit about me and they keep trying to stop the Undead and the thing is... he's afraid of this band. He knows this is a good band. He wastes too much time trying to fuck us over instead of concentrating on his own career. Kirk: I heard he taped over you guys (Misfits) cuts so he could have the copyrights. Bobby: No, he never stole anything. He just didn't pay us anything. (laughter) Stephanie (the electric lover): So you think that's why people don't go to see the Undead? Bobby: Well, we just couldn't get connected out here. That's basically the strategy he uses, where he would say, ok, you know the Undead could draw a crowd here, you know if you book the Misfits, Samhain, Danzig, whatever band it is at the time, you know you're going to get 'X' amount of people. If we hear the Undead played here, we don't play here! A lot of people (promoters) are afraid of that shit, a lot of people are afraid of angrying him. Weird Man: Can I talk to you? (So Bobby leaves for a second). Tony: So this is the mini Flipside remote unit? Kirk: Yeah. Why do you use a cane? (Bobby walks with a slight limp and uses a cool cane.) Bobby: It's a long story. Tony: Everybody is saying that the Misfits broke your legs! The last story I heard was that he tried to steal equipment from Jerry and... Bobby: Joey Image... Tony: ...and he broke your legs! (laughter) Bobby: And this is why Glenn Danzig is a real fucking pussy, cause he don't say shit about Jerry Only. He don't say shit about Joey Image, he don't say shit about Googy. Cause they're all big and physically capable of kicking the shit out of him. All he talks about is me cause I'm fucking crippled and he knows I'm not going to kick the piss out of him. That's how tuff Glenn Danzig is, he picks on cripples. Kirk: I guess he's the new Elvis. Tim: He's got pork chop sideburns!! Tony: Elvis with blood all over his face! Kirk: Tell us about your new songs. I know musically you've always been a rebel. Bobby: Yeah, it's just whatever comes to mind. We're not an art band, a political band, you know, we write songs about whatever the fuck hits us. We're not going to not write a love song cause we're a hard band. We like to play with images and fuck with peoples heads. We don't want people to know what to expect from us. We might end up picking up the London Philharmonic one day and cut a fuckin' record with them. We don't want to be predictable. Kirk: Is this a rock and roll band or a punk band or... Bobby: It's a punk rock and roll band... Last time we did an interview with Flipside (Pete), they totally twisted around the quotes I said. It was like: "Hey , I didn't say that!" Kirk: When was that? Bobby: Like in 1981. I said "I knew I wasn't going to be in the band that long. They were just waiting for Doyle to learn how to play guitar" and the way they put it is "they (Misfits) were keeping me until I learned how to play the guitar"!!! Kirk: Is that enough for a good story? Tony: Just make some stuff up. Kirk: I'll take a lot of pictures. I can't write so I print big pictures! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A couple of years ago, I remember seeing a Misfits poster at a local punk t-shirt store. If I remember right, it was a black & white poster advertising some date that the Misfits played. I know that one of the opening bands listed on the poster was the Beastie Boys... I think the other may have been the Necros. I think the picture was the Die Die My Darling cover... if not that, it was something else that you see often. Has anyone else seen this poster? I went to the place today to check it out, but they didn't have it there anymore. In the new issue of Seconds, there's a great interview with the new and improved political Glenn, including mention of an EP that might be out this summer with White Devil Rise. Here's an excerpt: Seconds: What's the story behind the song you wrote called "White Devil Rise"? Danzig: It's just a song I wrote about stuff people won't talk about. It's about a lot of stuff- Farrakhan, a bunch of things. Seconds: I heard it was supposed to be on 4p. Danzig: It was going to be originally, but then we had too many songs. We were going to do an EP this summer, but I don't know if that's happening yet. It's too important of a song to just give as a B side and it gets lost, so I'm waiting for the right thing to do with it. ------------------------------ From: GoatboyAK@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 21:13:19 -0400 Subject: ummmm..glenn's lyrics..etc.. please post in da bible: ---------------------------------- a few comments/questions 1)i have a boot of the cough cool 7", after it says couch/cool, underneath it, it says --"b/w"--, what does this "b/w" mean? 2)does anyone have the "famous misfits of filmaland" boot? are these songs rare versions, or studio outtakes, they sound like regular album versions to me??on the back of the sleeve it reads "FROM THE FORTHCOMING ALBUM "LUCIFERS PENIS RISING" "....WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT, IS THIS STUPIDITY WRITTEN TO OCCUPY SPACE BY THE BOOTLEGGER, OR were these supposed to be on an album that was never released?? 3)who are the NECROS, i know the misfits mention them on some live shows, and send songs out to them...was glenn in them...did they ever release anything,ive never seen anything by them,,are they good? 4)what cover songs did the misfits ever do?? i know that on a bootleg "RETURN OF THE FLY" 7" i have, they cover "RISE ABOVE", have they ever covered any other songs...are there any on boot copies of shows?? 5)a hardcore group from kentucky called ENDPOINT, released a 7" called "IDIOTS" they did cover songs.i heard that they covered "attitude" ,(which i may add, my band is covering for EevilDon's comp. thing..)and on the cover of the 7" they are drenched in blood like the cover of the initium album, and where it would normaly say "SAMHAIN", it says either "ENDPOINT" or "IDIOTS", i tried to order it a while ago, because i am a fan of endpoit, but they were all out, and arent gonna repress it, oh welll looks like i gotta do some searchin" JUST FYI..... 5)speaking about glenn's odd lyrics in songs (--misfit bible 77 or 78) in the song bullet, everything is fine until he starts goin' crazy talkin bout his cum?? and "jacky" "slurpin it up"... ---"LIKE A DRY DESERT, SOAKING UP RAIN, SOAKIN UP SUN" --??????? 6)has there ever been any oficial or semi-official count of the # of bootlegs (misfit only) made??any one have an guess? 7)i have the first issue of SATANIKA, VEROTIK comics, signed by glenn, what is this worth? i also have a limited edition poster of SATANIKA, is it worth anything..i'll trade someone something for it, i really dont care that much about it!! playlist -------------- misfits, samhain, matallica, slayer, biohazard, green day, rancid, operation ivy,elements of need, mouthpiece, unbroken, bloodlet,carcass,earth crisis, shelter, youth of today,groundwork,endeavor,SAMSARA (--my band--), 10,000 maniacs,cranberries, pantera,ashes,morbid angel,stone temple pilots, nirvana,bad religion, 108,lifeline,snapcase,obituary,life of agony,quicksand,alice in chains,prong, and many many more!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Cyberpig2@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 01:00:33 -0400 Subject: Kryst CD I'd hate to use this as a market, but with all the recent requests for the Kryst The Conquerer CD, and me selling it, I thought nobody would mind, if you're interested E-mail me, I'm also selling some other Danzig stuff like magazines, promos, etc. Later. Sir KM(Cyber-Pig Records) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 01:20:32 -0400 From: Lord Valgamon Subject: rare stuff for sale Vinyl Ink is selling the following. Contact them at netalog@ari.net MISFITS Cough Cool/She US 7" Re-issue $8.00 MISFITS Night Of The Living Dead US 7" Beautiful copy $100.00 ------------------------------ From: Part@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 21:08:54 -0400 Subject: Art for the tribute Fiends, If possible, Evil Don is going to try putting some cover art on this Misfits tribute. This was a suggestion I made to him, and I also suggested that I do it. But a better idea would be a contest. Someone with a scanner could receive art (some people could already have scans, but others, including me, don't have one)and bounce it to the Bible for voting by the members. Just an idea--I know everyone who loves art would want to get in on this. Vlad Tempes (Part@aol.com, bk902@freenet.buffalo.edu) Playlist: Misfits- Misfits NOFX- White Trash, two Heebs... The Crucified- Nailed (Christian punk...scary, but good) Circle Jerks- Group Sex Blue Oyster Cult- On Your Feet or on your knees (classic rock? Surely not!) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 06:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Hi all, This will be my last post for now. I just wanted to thank Mark and all of you for your contributions. It's been great having them to read twice a week. More info than any sane human needs to know, but I guess that explains a lot. Bye, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 11:15:02 -0500 From: mike mccusty in response to goatboyak@aol.com.... 1)b/w means "backed with", as in "and on the b-side..." 2)i have this, the "famous misfits of filmland" boot, and i don't know what the fuck it means. sorry. 3)the necros were an old band from maumee, ohio...toured with the misfits lots. drummer is now in the laughing hyenas. 5)i got the endpoint "idiots" 7" at an endpoint show over a year ago. since endpoint has broken up and i heard that it is *definitely* out of print...good luck. they also do embrace's "building", malignant growth's "circus of pain", and rites of spring's "persistent vision". members of endpoint can now be found in guilt and metroschifter. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 11:19:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #83 Well, it's been nice knowing you all. I just graduated and I'm leaving this hole and therefore losing my net access. I haven't been able to keep up much lately, but if there *is* going to be some sort of Bible meet up, please let me know. I can be reached at 249 Eldridge St. #13 NY, NY 10002 or (212)979-7295. Best of luck to everyone, and thanks for all the cool info. I'm sure I'll be back someday. Alex ps- Evan, I have a feeling that those records might have gotten sent back to you- sorry about that. That's my new address (above). Give me a call before your next trip to ABC ok? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 15:00:55 -0400 From: bloodboy Subject: poster Whoever posted the Flipside Bobby Steele interview, thanks. Also I've seen the flier/poster you're talking about. I knew this girl that had it in her room. I tried to get her to give it to me 'cause she said she was going to throw it out. But she ended up keeping it (probably because I made a big deal over it). Anyway it was a poster for a show with Misfits, Necros, and Beastie Boys. I think the show might have been in New York and the poster was black with red and white print and it had the Die, Die, My Darling graphic on it. It was the coolest Misfits flier I've ever seen. bloodboy P.s. I will post the Bobby Steele/Post Mortem address next time because I don't have it with me right now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 15:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: necros, interviews, etc. 1) the Necros were the old school hard core punk band from Dayton, Ohio. Pretty much seen as a classic band, they released a bunch of stuff, mostly on Touch & Go (maybe all? I don't know...). I never really liked em that much, other people do, whatever. The singer is a big fat hair farming grunge rocker in Big Chief now, i saw him in Tower the other day, boy is he fat. Fat and famous, they were doing an autograph session, i just had to pick up blank tapes, and no, I didn't get anything autographed. 2) Good luck finding a copy of 'Idiots'. The original was a limited edition, and I don't know of any plans to repress it. If anyone really needs a copy, let me know, I'll dub it off for you. It's ok, nothing spectacular. Maybe it's just cos I don't really like Attitude as a song, you know Guns n Roses covered it, right? ;) 3) hey Mark, how about compiling all the Samhain, Misfits, and Undead interviews and putting them on the WWW page? No Danzig interviews, please, he's saturated the media enough as is, plus his whole evil trip makes my stomach turn. Dempz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 16:15:13 -0400 (EDT) From: He-Who-Can-Not-Be-Named Subject: Favorite songs.. On the topic of favorites from Glenn's creations, here's my list : Misfits - Devilock Samhain - Samhain [right after the Initium (the song)] Danzig - Tough choice, narrowed it to three - Posession, Devil's Plaything, and Brand New God -------------------------------------------------------------------- "We all want our time in hell....." -Samhain ---------------------- damage@interactive.net ---------------------- ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 17:22:32 -0400 Subject: Q101+Del Okay, well, I apologize for the Q101. I do have a sister who listens to that, so it's Q101 or country--and I'm beginning to know the lyrics to country stuff, so it's time to change. Del, I actually agree with you on this one. Personally, I don't see why she would want to get on the bus (I believe it was a half-hearted attempt due to her bordemn), but the question was just the matter of her curiosity. See you around...Chris ------------------------------ From: pcm2@netcom.com (Neil McAllister) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #83 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 20:42:37 -0700 (PDT) RE: FAMOUS MISFITS OF FILMLAND bootleg... This 7" contains "unlreleased versions" of songs -- the same unreleased versions that were eventually released on the 20-track compilation CD. It's a disc of tracks either from tapes swiped prior to the release of the CD, or recorded off the CD at a time when not many people who were into punk had CD players. Repeat, there is nothing on this bootleg that you haven't heard if you've heard the eponymous compilation disc. -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@netcom.com) | Santa Cruz, California, USA "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." -- Ben Kenobi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 95 15:38:59 PDT From: "C. Eng" Subject: re: jesus KRYST GoatBoy: where were you last month when I had the super duper rockem sockem auction.... 1) "b/w" means i guess "backed with". Cough Cough "backed/with" She. 2) Famous Misfits of Filmland, at least my copy, is a really cool multi- colored 7", all the tracks were swiped from the MISFITS CD, the other writing on there is bullshit. 3) Necros are a cool band! check the independent section of a good record store 4) RATT FINK is the only cover song I know of that they recorded for vinyl. Can't Tell No One by Negative Approach (God-Like) and Rise Above (Black Flag) were played live (See Last Show) 5) ?? 6) I thought AOL has Web Access, Mark has a list of most of the boots on his WWW page. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 16:52:17 -0700 From: Brian Miller Subject: Multiple conventions online If the idea of multiple conventions goes through, how about arranging for a terminal and an internet link at each convention? have them connected through IRC in a misfits convention channel, or all linked up via YTALK or something. It would be cool to have the seperate conventions connected. (they will all have to go on at the same time, though. Will timezones fuck this idea up? Dunno about you, but I'd be fine with going to a convention at 2:00am or whatever needs to be done) . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 10:37:47 +0400 (EET-DST) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: Finally! Hey EevilDon...What was that about the "misfits private room"? Am I missing something here?? To Emily : Even in Sessions' catalogue I could manage to get the stickers cheaper...;) What about being generous and send one to each member of the Bible (postage paid of course). It would be really appreciated, I'm sure :)) Oh and thanks to HorrorHotel for the Bobby Steele interview! ------- Whooa! I finally heard a song from Danzig's (not so) new album. It was "I don't mind the pain" and I actually liked it! here's my playlist...Finally got some new records! Fugazi - Red Medicine New Bomb Turks - Information Superhighway Revisited (finally!!!) SNFU - The Ones Voted Most Likely to Succeed Vindictives - Party Time for Assholes MDC - Metal Devil Cokes Split Lip - For the Love of the Wounded Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos IOANNIS.NIKOLOPOULOS@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### -- Make a difference -- ### ### ------------------------------ From: HororHotel@aol.com Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 23:58:18 -0400 Subject: Glenn's WAU shirt A minor piece of trivia: On the cover of Walk Among Us, the Skull & Crossbones shirt that Glenn is wearing is from Space Pirate Captain Harlock, a classic Japanese animated character. Harlock's outfit features a prominent skull & crossbones on his chest identical to the one that Glenn is wearing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 95 12:54:15 PDT From: "C. Eng" Subject: cd vs wax I agree with whomever noticed the difference between the Misfits CD and the 7" or 12" vinyls. Even though the songs came off the same master tapes, the cd versions are as sterile as a surgical operating room. Heck, compare Halloween off Legacy of Brutality and compare it with the same one off 3 Hits >From Hell. 3 Hits version rocks (eww.. did I use that word). I guess whoever remastered the tapes for the CD is the same guy who did the first Neurosis 7" (trebley, no bass, no balls, no shit). That's one reason why I want that Static Age LP/CD to come out ASAP! I hate the sound of the CD's (don't have Earth AD though) but it is more convienent than hopping over to your turntable every 3 minutes to flip it over. Misfits: Horror Hotel Samhain: Let The Day Begin -cruch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 95 13:11:20 PDT From: "C. Eng" Subject: She Tab 1977 of version of SHE is on the web page. check it out. ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: skulls Date: Tue, 23 May 95 9:59:15 MESZ someone was asking about the misfits cover band that has an ep out. you probably mean the skulls from germany, they had an ep with 4 misfits covers, and they only played misfits songs. i saw them live once and they were pretty good. there's only 500 of the ep and it's been a while since i last saw it, but if i see it i'll get it for you. it came out around 1988, btw, long before the *real* hype. cheers flex ------------------------------ From: Mr Danzig Subject: some questions Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 13:32:25 +0000 (australasia) Gday guys Well i have a few questions to ask. (some may have been answered, but i thought i'd ask) i) The re-formation of THE MISFITS, glenn wrote the lyrics, and most of the music, but who is the name THE MISFITS licensed to??? ii) The new singer. Who is he, or have they found anyone yet????? Will he have to sound like glenn, or are they going 4 a new sound??? iii) Are Jerry & Doyle after some money now that DANZIG is getting more well known. What I mean is, now DANZIG is big and most people will go back to THE MISFITS & SAMHAIN, so are Jerry & Doyle reforming the misfits so they can cash in on the success that they are getting?? Thanks Buds Matt -- __ __ | Matt Farmer / `-' / ,, | |[====|||||||||||[::} | s9406121@yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au \__.-._\ `` | s9406121@arcadia.cs.rmit.edu.au | s9406121@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au http://minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au/~s9406121 ------------------------------ From: Hunnysmack@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 12:14:30 -0400 Subject: video Well... A few of you are getting rather impatient concerning your Evil Is As Evil Does videos. This is just another reminder that they are being done on a first come, first serve basis and that there are about 35 or so more orders for me to fill - ONE AT A TIME. Be patient. The video is about two hours long and with work and the band and everything else I do, only about two get done per day (although yesterday I did five). Okay? Thanks - Brent ------------------------------ From: PETERSM6449@uni.edu Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 12:35:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #82 Hey everybody! If anybody is interested, I have an extra copy of Kryst the Conqueror that I'd be willing to sell or trade. I bought the cassette and CD, but don't figure I need both of them. I may not be able to catch up on my e-mail very often for a while, so if you'd like to reach me the old-fashioned way: Marc Peterson 1738 Flower St. #4 Waterloo IA 50701-3260 (319) 234-6928 Also, a friend of mine might be interested in contributing to the compilation tape, but I'm a newcomer to the Bible and don't have much info. Is it limited to Misfits covers, or would a Samhain song be welcome, as well? Please send as much information as possible. Info. on the video(s) available would also be greatly appreciated from anybody who knows of any. I would also like to extend my appreciation for the transcription of the Samhain interview; I can never find anything from those days, including bootlegs or singles. SEE YA!! RAT(T) FINK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 15:05:49 -0500 From: bloodboy Subject: Bobby Steele/Post Mortem OK, anyone who wants to get in touch with Bobby or order Undead shit, here's the address: Post Mortem Records P.O. Box 358 New Milford, NJ 07646 "Billie Joe is not my lover..." (Could this be Billie Joe of G.D.?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 16:23:40 -0400 From: Lord Valgamon Subject: more rare stuff for sale MISFITS--EVIL IS AS EVIL DOES $8.99 (Contact ozone@teleport.com) Contact grape@panix.com for the following: 1233...ADAM WEST-"Cough/Cool" one-sided 7". Fan club release faithfully covers Danzig. Limited edition of 100!!..............Green Vinyl 3.50 5017...MISFITS-"If You Don't Know This Song..." Boot LP. Live Hittsville. Passaic, NJ Xmas 1981......................Black Vinyl 25.00 also telnet to cdnow.com and check out their misfits selection. great stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 16:53:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: White Zombie/Favs Has anyone gone to see White Zombie yet on the tour? Besides it being a really great show Rob also wore his Samhain shirt and the same getup he does in the "More Human Then Human" video. I wonderd if he did this at every show. Also for favs... Misfits: Last Caress (Hollywood babylon and London Dungeon close seconds) Samhain: Halloween II Danzig: When Death Had No Name ------------------------------ From: ols@home.interaccess.com Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 17:06:08 -0600 Subject: art contest Don-- What private room? ...is that an AOL thing? 2 bucks each Emily?? I could probably get those stickers at the Alley fer for less than that.. Goatboy: I believe b/w means black and white.. --also in bullet; he say's "...masturbate me, then slurp it from your palms like a dry desert soaking up rain..." -I don't think it's anything more than a metaphor (the dry desert part) Vlad! Hell yeah! I'm up fer a contest! I gots me a scanner, but it's black and white only...I normally draw black and white anyways... --Greg-- ------------------------------ From: Misfits15@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 15:48:42 -0400 Subject: fav songs OK, here it goes: Misfits: Return Of The Fly SamHain: Lords of The Left Hand Danzig: Devil's Plaything Hard to decide, but I think that these are my favs. Quotes: "I got a lotta people tellin' me I'm outta my mind and I don't know why."- Rancid "We'll Kill 'm all and have a ball and end their fuckin' crisis"- SOD "I just Got a new spawn toy. I like it a lot" Sucking Wedge (formerly Sun Dog) "Fuck It all" Machine Head "If there was a new way, I'd be the first in line. But it better work this time" Megadeth "Don't know what I want, but I know how to get it. I wanna desrtoy, Possibly?" Sex Pistols "los ticka toe rest might likea sender doe ree." Melvins "Come sweet death one last caress" Misfits Ryan Riggle ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 21:17:10 -0400 Subject: tab. i agree with the guy who said that stuff about what kinda chords do you expect them to be, come on guys! but, i have to say i've looked at some of the tab and some of it is incorrect. not very bad just minor problems. for instance die die my darling is incorrect. the verse is : B G D Db. there are no D's in the tab for that song at all. although some of it is less than accurate it is some what helpfull as some were to go from, the little errors are obvious and when you spot them you can just find that one yourself. i'm not trying to be rude to whoever spent their time working this stuff out but it could use a little brushing up, it's not completely useless, and it can be somewhat helpfull. no offense intended. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 11:55:30 -0400 From: Lord Valgamon Subject: Barbie Bites the Dust?? what exactly is "Barbie Bites the Dust??" There's no mention of it in the homepage's bootlegs section, but flexbook.zip mentions it a few times. (See "The Misfits Bible, Number 81" for more info on flexbook.zip). ------------------------------ From: Misfits15@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 20:40:12 -0400 Subject: NECROS The Necros were a band (I'm not sure if they're still together) who must've been pretty close to the 'Fits. I have a poster advertising for a show with Misfits, Necros, and Skullbusters with Misfits as the main act. I have also heard Glenn thanking them for playing in the Necronomicon (Does anyone have the Necronomicon (I mean the occult book), and is it any good?) Live part. I have also seen ads for their CD's in Guitar mags in the rare and import CD ads. Go to your local record store and ask them. they'll look it up in a book or computer and order it for you if you want it. "Can you help me, or are you from my brain?" Black Sabbath Ryan ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #83 Date: Mon, 29 May 95 2:50:51 EDT > From: GoatboyAK@aol.com > does anyone know the origin of the song RATFINK? > i was in a record store in NYC and they had a whole bunch of Ratfink > t-shirts, i asked the guy there, and he said that it was either the name of a > local tatooer or a local tatooer's design.and the picture of the RAT of each > shirt was basically the same, except for diff designs, and these are > identical to the picture of RAT on a misfits boot, entitled RATFINK..any one > have any answers?? > also whay do they spell ratfink "R-A-T-F-I-N-K", when it is sung > "R-A-T-T-F-I-N-K" Rat Fink originated from the toys of the same name. The song was originally done by a guy named Al Sherman, so it was up to him to make the lyrics that way. However, those lyrics of his were based on a different song with similar lyrics, the name of which I have forgotten. > From: Lord Valgamon > > Greetings Earthlings, > I just bought the s/t Misfits CD (PL9-CD1) ... believe it or not it's > the last studio CD I needed to complete my collection (most people would buy > it FIRST, not last, as I did). hee hee :) Anyway, my first impression is that > these are DEFINITELY not the same songs (for the most part) that are on the > other LP/CD's and the 7"s (from what I've heard on _hymns from hell_). Just > about every song seems slowed down, and as if the EQ has been fooled with. > It's ... weird. Maybe I'm just used to the raw brashness and speed of the > material compiled on _hymns from hell_ but when I heard the version of Bullet > on this CD I almost had to laugh. The differences aren't THAT noticeable, but > they are definitely THERE. Anyone else notice this oddity? Of course there are differences. Several songs on the comp CD were taken from unreleased recordings with Bobby. Vampira even has Joey on drums. It's all in the discography on the page. > From: HororHotel@aol.com > Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 01:30:20 -0400 > Subject: Bobby Steele Flipside Interview 1989 > > Hey, am I the only one who didn't recieve a Bible on Thursday? I hope I > didn't get bounced off of the list or something. Well here's that Flipside > interview with Bobby Steele that I promised. These's also a great cover > story on GWAR in this issue, and a really old picture of the Offspring. It looks like there will be no Thursday issues this summer, because the intake is really low now. I'm not getting much to put in it. Thanks for the article though. that was definitely cool.... > A couple of years ago, I remember seeing a Misfits poster at a local punk > t-shirt store. If I remember right, it was a black & white poster > advertising some date that the Misfits played. I know that one of the opening > bands listed on the poster was the Beastie Boys... I think the other may have > been the Necros. I think the picture was the Die Die My Darling cover... if > not that, it was something else that you see often. Has anyone else seen > this poster? I went to the place today to check it out, but they didn't have > it there anymore. This is a bootleg. The Misfits did play with the Beastie Boys but it was on a different night and with Gang Green (not the Necros). There were only 3 real Misfits posters and a handful of real show flyer posters. This is not one of them. > goatboyak > > 1)i have a boot of the cough cool 7", after it says couch/cool, underneath > it, it says --"b/w"--, what does this "b/w" mean? backed with - you should be able to find this on many singles > 2)does anyone have the "famous misfits of filmaland" boot? > are these songs rare versions, or studio outtakes, they sound like regular > album versions to me??on the back of the sleeve it reads "FROM THE > FORTHCOMING ALBUM "LUCIFERS PENIS RISING" "....WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT, IS > THIS STUPIDITY WRITTEN TO OCCUPY SPACE BY THE BOOTLEGGER, OR were these > supposed to be on an album that was never released?? Yep, just bootlegger bullshit. Those tracks are on the Misfits compilation CD/LP. > 4)what cover songs did the misfits ever do?? i know that on a bootleg "RETURN > OF THE FLY" 7" i have, they cover "RISE ABOVE", > have they ever covered any other songs...are there any on boot copies of > shows?? They also coverd "CAn't Tell No One" by Negative Approach on 10/29/83 and "Blue Christmas" by Elvis on 12/20/78. They also used to cover "Search And Destroy" and "I've Got A Right" by Iggy Pop, although no recordings exist. "Rat Fink" is also a cover but they never did it live. > > 6)has there ever been any oficial or semi-official count of the # of bootlegs > (misfit only) made??any one have an guess? All known bootlegs are included in the discography on the WWW page that is mentioned in every issue. I haven't counted them, but they're all there if someone wants to. It's at least 50. Anyway fiends, does anybody want to buy my 'Beware' bootleg LP? It's got the same cover, only in green and white instead of black and white. I bought it as a space filler in my collection and am now tired of it.... $15 and it's yours. And I have news from Al Flipside, mastermind behind Flipside magazine, which had many articles about the Misfits back in the old days. The "Best Of Flipside Vinyl Fanzines" CD with Attitude (live 12/20/78) as well as an Undead demo and some other stuff will soon be reissued. Altogether the double CD collection has about 56 songs by 56 different bands. Also, issue #100 of Flipside will be another best of edition with tons of old artices and perhaps a CD-ROM of old issues... see you later fiends mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 85 Tuesday, June 6th 1995 Today's Topics: bible entry....please die die my darling Necronomicon Re: Misfits Bible, #84 Satanika #2 evil tribute Re: Misfits Bible, #84 tab sessions endpoint barbie bites the dust Chicago Changes in the Misfits Book, Discography, etc. Samhain Grim Re: #2(2) Misfits Bible, #84 Misfits BAnner Rat Fink Pants? more stuffff samhain wav "Beware" album the prodigal poster returns ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Misfits777@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 20:52:38 -0400 Subject: bible entry....please I have a few questions and comments....and a story or two. First of all, did Kryst ever make any vinyl or just Cd's and tapes? If anyone has SEALED tapes or CD's or vinyl let me know. I have some rare (i think) interviews of Samhain in some zines. XXX #15 and Your Flesh #11. Danzig and the rest of the band discuss the Misfits and various things like that. If these interviews haven't been posted i will type them up. So let me know. Recently I wrote to Jerry Only and suprisingly enough he responded within a few days. When he wrote beck he enclosed a postcard that said that the Misfits were touring again in 1995, and were auditioning new singers and drummers. Has anyone heard when this will start or if they still plan on doing this? This may be old news and stuff, but i just started reading the Bible on issue #83 so don't get mad at me. Jerry also told me his son loves the Orlando Magic and especially Shaq. He mentioned that because i live in Orlando. He was supposed to fly down and go to a Magic game with me and Doyle. You can imagine how disapointed i was that it never fell through. Can you imagine just hanging out with Jerry and Doyle for the weekend?? Also i have to give myself a quick plug. I run an underground bootlegging operation called OUTCAST and so far we have 3 bootleg cassettes out. Rancid, Op Ivy and NOFX. If anyone is interested in these or getting on my punk emailing list of OUTCAST updates email me. Thanks. 3 fav. songs: Misfits:astro zombies Samhain:all murder Danzig:i don't like danzig Playlist:Snapcase lp, Earth Crisis all out war, and BOLD speak out. email me at: Misfits777@aol.com ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa-- ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: die die my darling Date: Tue, 30 May 95 10:42:45 MESZ this movie "die, die my darling" is on German TV tonight, so if you get a chance to see it don't miss it. you can ask me about the plot etc. tomorrow if you're interested... cheers flex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:21:41 -0400 From: "Warren A. Propst" Subject: Necronomicon Misfits15 asked if anyone owned the Necronomicon--the book. Well, I suppose that's debatable. I have a paperback copy from Ballantine books. Sure... It was released a couple years ago and I don't know whether they expected us to believe it's real or not. It was supposedly written by Abdul Alhazred (or Abd-Al Azrad), the mad Arab. The Ballantine version has a lot of Sumerian mythology. Probably, though, it was created by HP Lovecraft. In his version, it contained Cthulhu mythology, of course. I bought the thing because of the Misfits and because of Lovecraft. Really doubtful it's real...the "real" version and Lovecraft version don't match up at all. Who knows? Vlad Tempes "Kadath in the Cold Wastes hath known them...and what man knows Kadath?" --Lovecraft? ------------------------------ From: ols@home.interaccess.com Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:11:41 -0600 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #84 > 1) "b/w" means i guess "backed with". Cough Cough "backed/with" She. hmm...where the hell did I hear it meant black and white...boy, my face is red .. Where do I send art to? I could send it coded or something... does it hafta be misfits related? ...greg... ------------------------------ From: Ralph Herbert Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 08:28:46 +0200 Subject: Satanika #2 Got Satanika #2 last Friday. Didn't like it. Glenn's writing is minimal and rather crummy ("This form, a recent memory, is reality again. And with it, she knows, will be DEATH!!" .....), the artist is ok, the computer colors suck big-time. And the story? Well, demons kill a busload of humans, Satanika kills demons. That's it. In my opinion, Satanika is nothing more than the average Image comic with an added splatter-factor. Oh well, maybe it's oldfashioned to expect a comic book to actually have a story that goes beyond one big fight scene these days. ralph ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 23:01:15 -0400 Subject: evil hey demps. if you don't like the evil trip than why would you want any of glenn's interviews? just wondering? ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 23:01:19 -0400 Subject: tribute okay now i've finally decided to make it official. the tribute will be a misfits/samhain tribute. for all the misfits only fans i apologize but, i've only got about 20 songs or so as of now so had to do it, plus i like samhain! Don "Evil" Dieffenbach bloodboy, if it was billy joe of green day it would be, "...is my lover..."! ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #84 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 11:34:03 -0400 (EDT) first about the necros, they are now defunct. the lead singer is in big cheif, sub pop grunge shite. their drummer and bass player, sometimes, became members of the laughying hyenas when mule was formed. todd is the drummer for the hyenas, and occasionaly kevin plays bass. check out their new album "hard times" if ya like bluesy punk. the necros released stuff on many lables starting in 1985, the sorta became chessy after that, imho, touring w/ megadeath. that stuff should be far easier to find than their t'n'g stuff. the necronomican is a cool book, you can pick it up at most good independent book store, ie those not attached to a coffee house. -- Paul Hahn "...my life would be so groovy.. hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu if i owned an uzi.." http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul -gangster fun ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 95 13:06:20 PDT From: "C. Eng" Subject: tab EevilDon@aol.com wrote: >>for instance die die my darling is incorrect. the verse is : B G D Db. there are no D's in the tab for that song at all. If I remember correctly, the D-Db sequence is correct for the Misfits and Samhain (Live) versions. >>although some of it is less than accurate it is some what helpfull as some were to go from You have to admit, it's a great resource, even if it is not 100% note for note chord for chord. People who do that find work with those guitar mags. >>the little errors are obvious and when you spot them you can just find that one yourself. i'm not trying to be rude to whoever spent their time working this stuff out but it could use a little brushing up, it's not completely useless, and it can be somewhat helpfull. no offense intended. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach Maybe you could brush it up yourself? Why don't you post your differences to the guy(s) who did them (if you havent) and if (he)they don;t agree. Then I dont think it would be a problem to have your tab up there next to the one you disagree with and have the end-user decide which is better. I am periodically submitting my tabs on stuff that were not previously on the Web page already like She (no guitar), Hellhound, Halloween II, Human Pony Girl, Diabolos '88, Die Die, Unholy Passion (many versions) etc. and if anyone disagrees with them, then let me know. OH, Don, I changed my mind again: Misfits: I Turned Into a Martian Samhain: Halloween II Danzig: Who Cares (no that's not a song) ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 18:59:27 -0400 Subject: sessions well, it appears that sessions doesn't carry earth ad or evilive on cd. they don't even carry evilive anymore at all. i found out when i finally tried to order it. as a matter of fact i did order it, then they sent a letter saying they don't carry it on cd. so i was fooled to. sorry guys1 but if anybody does know where i can get earth ad and/or evilive on cd let me know. sorry! thanks! Don "Evil" Dieffenbach "...open your eyes now! this ain't no fantasy..." ep version of night of the living dead (much better than lp version!) ------------------------------ From: Hunnysmack@aol.com Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:08:48 -0400 Subject: endpoint It's interesting that at least a few people are talking about Endpoint... In case you all weren't aware, they just released an album titled (you guessed it) "The Last Record." It's five songs of what you would expect from Endpoint on Doghouse Records. If anyone really wants a copy, let me know because my friend Eric runs Lumberjack Distribution and has tons of them. - Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 95 17:42:37 PDT From: "C. Eng" Subject: barbie bites the dust Lord Valgamon: Barbie bites the Dust is not a Misfits song, it was an offhand joke during one of their early interviews (its the one listed on the web page). I think jerry or bobby or whomever was playing with a barbie doll during the interview and said "that's our next album.. barbie bites the dust". Not an exact quote. just memory. what the heck is flexbook.zip? ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 22:38:03 -0400 Subject: Chicago Any Fiends from the Chi area seeing Fight on June 18? I am! Drop me a line if you are. So....it's not a Misfits post....I'll make it up next time. Promise. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 00:50:33 EDT From: G Subject: Changes in the Misfits Book, Discography, etc. Could somebody post if the Discography or Misfits Book or anything else is changed or updated? Both are excellent, and I would definitely be interested in any new versions. Thanks for your time, G. G (Galen Myers)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Like -S.Pumpkins,AllmanBros,Pantera,Primus,Misfits,Live,Weezer,Prince FNM,NWA,DYoakam,PFloyd,GDead,SRV,Hendrix,JAddiction, Abhor-STP,NIN,MManson,REM,VanHalen,Hole,QRyche,Offspring,GDay,Vai,VSalt, DTheater,MPuppets,CSoul,RATM,WZombie,DinoJr E-mail if you would want to trade, etc. "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave"-Les ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~It's just a signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Samhain666@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 19:33:46 -0400 Subject: Samhain Grim What does "Samhain Grim" mean? I know it was going to be the title of their '87 album, but Glenn also say's it in the song, "November's Fire". Anybody know what this phrase means? -Carey ------------------------------ From: GoatboyAK@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 23:18:11 -0400 Subject: Re: #2(2) Misfits Bible, #84 fav songs... misfits-HORROR HOTEL,.....SOME KINDA HATE samhain-ARCHANGEL,....ALL MURDER ALL GUTS ALL FUN danzig-POSSESSION,....SHE RIDES ALSO, THANXX TO EVERYONE ABOUT THE "BACKED WITH" INFO, i might have found a boot of the necros 7", but im not sure its the corrct one, if it ill let you guys know if you want to get one!! are you sure!!!! they never played RATFINK live, its such a funny song,,,who is al sherman??? oh i think that at the end of everything by MISFITS, SAMHAIN, DANZIG,, it should read,......"EVERY SONG, BREATH, LYRIC, CYMBAL CRASH, BASS KICK, VOCAL, CHORD, RIFF, NOTE, SCREAM,PLUCK, SCRAPE, FRET, HI HAT HIT,FILL, IDEA, THOUGHT, EMOTION, WORD, MUSIC, BRAIN CELL, ACTION,...IS SUNG PLAYED & IMAGINED COMPLETELY BY THAT, OF NONE OTHER THAN HIS MAJESTY, GLENN DANZIG, SUPREME LORD, GOD, HERO, IDOL..AND HIS BIG HEADED FUKING SELF,,,COPYWRITED AND NEVER TO BE DUPLICATED BY ANYONE, EVER,..EVER...OR YOU'LL PAY,,..REALLY, YOU WILL...I MEAN IT... SORRY, for hooking off like that, i just hate to see that no one else in his band"s ever get credit, ..FOR ANYTHING! _____THE MAGGOTS IN THE EYE OF LOVE WONT COPULATE___..<------------WHAT THE HELL DID THIS MEAN, ITS STILL MY FAV SONG THOUGH... this crossed my mind, i guess that glenn went to school in Lodi, about 74-77, can anyone possibly get a yearbook, and look him up??? THIS WILL FINALLY GIVE US AN ANSWER TO HIS "REAL" NAME..(ANZALONE, ZALONE, DANZIG, OR WAHTEVER)....did he have a devilock???, was he VOTED most likely to fail in life???(ha ha h a)..the jokes probably on the kids now, who always made fun of him!!!SOMEONE OUT THERE MUST!! HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL W/ HIM!!! WHERES JOHN CHRIST NOW???? WHATS UP WITH ROBO????? WHERES JOEY IMAGE????? WHERES MANNY???? WHERES (WHO/WHAT IS) MR. JIM????? WHAT IS THE SONG "SHE" ABOUT????? WHAT THE FUCK IS RATFINK ABOUT????? WHO REALLY KILLED MARYLIN???? WAS HER CUNT "REALLY" ALL DRIED UP???? HOW DID GLENN KNOW????? DID "HE" DO IT????? something for us all to ponder upon!!!????????????? later GoatboyAK@aol.com p.s. why in ratfink do they start out spelling "F-I-N-K" first??? i am a vegetarian, and every time i listen to ghouls nite out, i never say the end part,,you know eat meat, eat flesh....arent you proud of me...- :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 00:24:42 -0400 (EDT) From: RELAPSE Subject: Misfits BAnner In the pictures area of the misfits WWW, there is a pic of jerry and doyle at chiller horror convention.. there is a big ass misfits banner in the background.. Where in the hell can i get one of those?? if you know! please tell me! -hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 18:32:35 -0400 From: "Warren A. Propst" Subject: Rat Fink Last issue, there was some discussion about the reason Rat Fink was spelled R-A-T-T-F-I-N-K in the song. Someome brought up the point that it was taken from an older song that sounded similar. I've heard from a source, forget where, what this song might have been. I've heard the song too, and it's very probable. The song was called Rag Mop, from the 40s or so, maybe earlier. In the lyrics they spelled it out, "R-A-G-G-M-O-P-P." Vlad Tempes, whose playlist is: NOFX-Punk in Drublic Iron Maiden- Powerslave (the antipunk) Slayer- Reign in Blood (the antichrist) Circle Jerks- Groups Sex Dead Kennedys- Bedtime for Democracy Black Sabbath- Vol. IV -- "Kadath in the cold wastes hath known them, and what man knows Kadath?" -the Necronomicon- bk902@freenet.buffalo.edu; part@aol.com ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 17:14:51 -0400 Subject: Pants? All right everyone. I picked up this magazine...Live Wire. Here's an article from it. "Is That A Danzig In Your Pants Or Are You Just Happy To See Me?" Danzig 4 has been given the most dubious honor of being named Most Stolen CD in the country. Congrats, Glenn! Here's the evidence: Posted on American Recordings Internet Site, an estimated total number of units purloined from the nation's retailers range from 50,000 to 60,000 copies, according to American Recordings Bigwig Dave Garbarino. A normal rate of 1% stolen at retail is expected, but Danzig 4 was at an all time high of 15%. And why is that number so high. Could it be that Danzig 4 is Danzig's best CD of his entire career? That could be a possibilty, and the facat that so many Danzig fans have to own this mother at any cost. But it turns out there's another reason. Prior to the record's release, self-styled dark lord Glenn approved an environmentally sound, but unusual package design that was smaller than the customary CD box. Says Garbarino, "The Danzig CD package was easier to remove from the standard keepers (the plastic holders for the CD) which gave kids ample opportunity to steal it. Adds Beth Fath, Senior Buyer for Spec's Music in Miami, "You could easily fit 10 of them in your back pocket." Well, guess what? That's what Danzig's kleptomaniac fans did! At any rate, that's at least 50,000 more life forms checking out Danzig's latest. Live Wire would like to personally extend our congratulations to Glenn & the boys! You know, after reading this for the first time, I decided to try sticking my copy in my back pocket. It didn't fit. Hmmm. Oh well, Chris ------------------------------ From: GoatboyAK@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:23:00 -0400 Subject: more stuffff ummm, well here i go today, 1)---who are the kids singing backup vocals on Braineaters on the walk among us lp??? 2)---i have a still sealed "die die my darling" ep 12", on plan 9,i would really like to trade someone something for it..offer me somethin, preferably misfit or samhain only... 3)---i got an earing today, its my first one..i was scared and i screamed..ouch!!, now im happy though... 4)--is anyone from east coast going/went to that big collectors show at the meadowlands, in nj on june 3rd,,,any rare boots, cds, vinyl, ...jerry & doyle around??? 5)--i just received a misfits info pack...what it is, is a 30 page photocopied, (very proffesional though), collection of very good pic's, lots of interviews, discographies, and copies of rare flyers, etc... its only $4.50, including postage..to: Adam Kriney 36 jackson street #2 Long Branch, NJ 07740 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 20:23:26 -0700 From: Chris Eng Subject: samhain wav ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/msdos_uploads/shareware/ha2.wav kinda cool samhain wav.. unusual version.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 14:04:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Scott M Casey Subject: "Beware" album Hello everyone. I am here for a request from a friend and someone here (Lord ??) directed me to this list. Anyway, he is looking for the album "Beware". He would like an original copy if it is possible but will take a dub as a last resort. He said he is willing to pay quite a bit for it as long as it is reasonable. So does anyone here have a copy they would like to sell or know where he can get it? He is moving in two weeks so please respond asap. Also, please send any replies directly to me and not the list since from what I can tell it only comes out once a week. Thank you for any help that you can give. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:25:40 -0400 From: EVB Subject: the prodigal poster returns Hello at long last.... sorry you haven't heard from me in so very long! Spent nearly 3 weeks on the road following the Danzig/Marilyn Manson tour and then came home & crashed out (not exactly but was either at work putting in some extra hours to make off some of what I'd taken off or else asleep at home) So I am only NOW getting back to everybody & catching up on my e-mail - if you wrote me way back & haven't heard from me, write again as some of my mail might have gotten dumped on me! Yes, it's true I had an unfortunate night at the Pittsburgh show (April 30th) when the large and drunken lout next top me who'd evidently been pigging out on Sloppy Joe's all night spewed all over yours truly as reported by Sean M. in an earlier bible. Right in the middle of my favorite song of this set too ("Devil's Plaything") which only added insult to injury. Glenn saw this & had security pull me right out & I crawled off to the bathroom & pretty much stripped & washed everything out while I sent my faithful companion off with $20 to buy me a clean and dry T-shirt. One of the low points of the tour. Other low points: driving 500 miles from Knoxville to Panama City, FL: (thru the backroads of Alabama...never again!) only to find that the show there was cancelled. Drove on from there to Jacksonville for the next show to find out the club (sleazy beach club called Spinnakers) that had been booked had as SWIMMING POOL in front of the stage. Evidently Glenn told 'em the only way they would play there was if they drained the pool & used it as the pit (which would have been interesting but apparently the club owners didn't agree) Well, that and the car breaking down on the way back & needing about $500 in repairs, yikes, darn good thing I had plastic with me tho now it's maxxed to the hilt. At least it's all fixed now (brakes, wheel bearings, axle bearings & various other thingies that hold the wheel on) and we didn't miss any shows. (Made it to a total of 12 this tour, bringing my total now to 72 Danzig shows - sheesh! Hard to believe. I've probably seen 'em more than most of the folks that work for them or for that matter that's more shows than Joey's played at!) Didn't get to hang out with the guys as much this time around but did get to talk to Glenn & EV a few times. As for these planned Misfits releases - Glenn says they can't release the live Max's album without his OK & he won't approve it after hearing how they'd re-recorded the music & totally mangled it. (After hearing a tape of the Jerry & Doyle radio show where they played a few of these "alleged" live tracks I think it's best they stay buried!) Got to hang some with EV & meet his girlfriend who is a really nice gal - the two of them are adorable together! Glad to see 'em both so happy. EV isn't happy with this supposed fan club thing their manger has contracted out ("Danzig Dominion" - they were passing out flyers at a few of the shows I was at) as its basically just a merchandizing vehicle to sell shirts & shit thru the mail and the band doesn't have any input into that. There's some talk that whoever is doing that is also gonna start picking up the mail at the LA PO box, so if you want to write the band directly sent it to EV - here's the address: Eerie Von PO Box 9215 Lyndhurst, NJ 07071 He and his girlfriend are hopefully getting a computer in the near future so I've offered to help them out if they need any help getting set up. That would be very kool as then he could forward on all the latest news. BTW EV really likes the Jerry Only model & has ordered one himself! Got to hear something REALLY different at the Tampa show - for an encore they played "Rat Salad" off Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" album. Only the 2nd cover tune I've ever heard them do (after "Trouble" - not counting Misfits/Samhain that is) And even stranger, at the Orlando show (last night of the US tour) John wore an ORANGE RED shirt on stage. Whatever happened to the dress code?? My eyeballs nearly fell out! All in all I didn't have as much fun this time around as previous tours & I'm still kinda bummed over that. Is it just me or are the crowds getting WAY more violent than they used to be?? I used to stay up front for every show but this time I kept getting the shit pounded out of me & several times the band had me pulled out so I didn't want to make them worry too much & I'd bail out of the front after the Mansons finished their set at the later shows (since luckily their crowd isn't anywhere near as violent) I've got a few interesting scars now on my arms from getting pounded with spiked bracelets. Hope I'm just not getting too old for this shit... Anyway, the cool part of that is we ended up hanging out a lot with the guys from Marilyn Manson who are all very cool. Also it was great to see Mark Kennedy again at the Norfolk show - glad you could make it!!! Now I'm looking forward to the San Diego Comic Con (July 27-30 at the San Diego Convention Center) - got my plane ticket a few days ago & pre-registered for the con so I'm psyched! Verotik will have a booth there & Glenn's got two VERY special guests lined up who will be doing signings at his booth - Go Nagai, one of the biggest names in Japanese manga who is best known as the creator of DEVILMAN (which Verotik will begin publishing for its first US appearance this summer) and Simon Bisley who painted the "Thrall" cover & is one of the best known cover artists currently working in comics. Dying to meet both of them as they are two of my personal gods! If anybody is interested in going drop me a line if you need info on the con! Wanted to make a few comments on earlier issues: #79 Samhain666-had to laugh about your Lizard named Bobby - we used to have this finch that would always come to our bird feeder with feathers on his head that stuck up kinda like a 'hawk & missing part of one foot so we always called him Bobby. One day he flew away with his new girlfriend &it was the last we saw of him! Yannis - sheesh, shirts over there must be cheap! Over here I never see them for less than $20 at shows & often they are $23 if the venue demands a few bucks from each sale & the price is upped accordingly. If I'm REAL lucky I can find them in a store for $17 (plus sales tax of course which brings it right back up!) Mark - if you want more info on the Process Church & the Four P movement I found quite a lot of info in "the Encyclopedia of Serial Killers" and in another book called "Hunting Humans". (Yes, my leisure time reading is a bit on the macabre side...) #80 - Danzig4192 - too bad you didn't make it to the Charlotte show as I was looking for ya there! I didn't go to the Heroes signing since the owner (Shelton) is a dick & refuses to carry Verotik merchandise any other day of the year. I had a few words with him the day before about what a hypocrite he was & a few friends of mine made a point of embarrassing him in front of Glenn to the tune of "how come when I tried to special order these books you told me you refused to carry them in your store". hehehe! #82 CTernes - I've never heard of the band pouring hot wax on women. Sounds like the roadie was trying to have a little fun with her head. I hate to sound sexist but it might have a lot to do with what she was wearing - I'm female & I always wear T shirts & jeans & boots to shows & get treated with respect. But a lot of gals wear sleazy little outfits & aren't there just for the music if you get my drift, and many members of road crews, bands etc (and I'm not referring specifically to Danzig here but to many bands in general) believe that groupies are a fringe benefit and will take advantage of a situation when it is offered. HororHotel - yup, have that infamous Crystar Crystal Warrior #8, found in many quarter boxes! Even better is a rare golden age beauty I've got, "CHAMBER OF CHILLS #19" issued by Harvey Comics in 1953 sporting the x-act same cover later used on "Die Die My Darling" #83 - Goatboy - On the origin of RATFINK: Ratfink was a character designed in the 1950's by the artist Ed "Big Daddy" Roth who was very popular among the "hot rod" crowd customizing cars & drag racers. Ratfink spawned a slew of merchandising including numerous toys, model kits, T shirts, posters, prints etc, as well as the Alan Sherman song. Lately he's been making a bit of a comeback - a few years ago a new series of Ratfink toys were issues & some of the model kits have been reissued. Ed Roth does appearances at car shows too & is still out there hawking his artwork & merchandise. Satanika #1 is currently worth about $5. The poster isn't a limited edition - it's a promo item (there's a bit of a difference there as a limited edition is limited to a set amount of copies) #84 - Lord Valgamon - "Barbie Bites The Dust" was an offhand comment made in the 1979 interview in SLASH magazine that I typed up a few months ago: Jerry Throws a Barbie doll on the floor. "Oh Barbie. Our new single is "Barbie Bites the Dust" I want to be a party time girl, I'm party time boy" When Spiral Scratch did a Misfits article in 1988 or thereabouts they listed it as an unreleased track but I'm sure they got it from that article & were pretty confused... There is no such song, if they'd read the whole article they'd see the band were just joking around for the entire thing! Amused to read all the posts re: a Misfits bible convention. Boy did that snowball! I'm really in no position to host a big concvention - what I'd like to do would be to host in informal kinda get together at my place. Now the problem is I live in a rather small & scrammed apartment so I'm a little worried when folks start saying they'll drive in from all over because I don't have room to put up many people. (Literally there is a futon in the living room & space for maybe a couple of sleeping bags tho I'd give 1st preference to folks I already know. I'm up for a Saturday over the summer tho I'll be busy July 15 (White Zombie show at Merriweather!), 22 (possibly going to Fanex) & 29th (San Diego con). August is a big question mark until I get some concrete dates (Marilyn Manson might be touring... which means ROAD TRIP for yours truly!) So would early July be good for folks?? Post yeah or nay... otherwise if we started planning now we could all meet up for a big shin dig (say the halloween Chiller Theater Convention in NJ where the 'Fits might REALLY play??) -EVB ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Eng" Subject: necronomicon? i dont know how this thread started (last issue), but the necronomicon was created by HP Lovecraft, and some people just wont believe it. Check out, there are 4 or 5 hardcover books of Lovecraft correspondence and in many letters he admits he invented the necronomicon so he can base his stories around it. some publishers have created their own necronomicons and you can buy those anywhere. oh and... misfits rules!!! Well I guess, reading EVB post, if Glenn wont allow the Xmas album to come out then I am sure it will come out somehow. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:23:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: taking evil seriously... Well, you asked, here's your answer. I said in the first place I didn't care to read any Danzig (the band) interviews because of the whole cheesy evil trip. I don't know about the rest of you, but I see a great difference between the tone of Misfits or Samhain interviews and Danzig ones. Back in the Misfits, they were a bunch of kids writing songs about horror movies and definately not taking it seriously (meaning they didn't think they were all evil interviewers didn't set the tone to make them seem evil, etc.). They were writing about movies, not "the true existence of evil". The reason I don't like the current Danzig lyrics and interviews (especially with Glenn himself, the John Christ interviews I 've read make him seem to be a little more grounded in reality) is because they seem to be taking the evil bit seriously. C'mon folks, this is rock n roll for Christ's sake, not theology. Glenn is from the New Jersey suburbs and the only "evil" thing to ever come out of that state is the stench it is famous for. Now, I don't think he takes the entire evuil trip completely sriously himself. Sometimes, if it is just a straight Q & A interview, he comes across as reasonably normal. He comes across as the NJ kid who loved horror movies and one day learned how to read so now he is fascinated with horror literature as well as movies. However, interviewers (especially Spin, Rolling Stone, etc. Anyone remember the Spin cover interview a few years back?) often try in their introductions and, if it is more of an article with quotes from Glenn, writings to make him seem all evil and scary but it just turns out really cheesy. I'm pissed I can't remember who said it, but I love the quote "rock n roll writing is people who can't write interviewing people who can't speak for people who can't read." Most Danzig interviews leave me groaning because of the cheesiness. The Misfits (as people) came across to me as being a lot more real (as in not pretending to be anything). Plus I find them a lot more interesting cos I like the band a lot more and I like that entire scene (early 80's hc) a lot more than Danzig's (mid 90's scary metal). Misfits interviews include little bits about other bands of the time like NA while Danzig interviews include "So, you're touring with Marilyn Manson again, eh? They're pretty scary..." I've said it before, I'll say it again: I hate that band. Am I the only one who gets the impulse to break that heroin-adict-looking singer's back? "I love braking arms & legs, snapping shoulders, wringing necks... I'm so evil evil evil evil..." (4 Skins, there's evil for ya, ha, and I'm sure almost none of you will get that quote unless you've heard that song (to simplify it: he doesn't think he's the devil, it's kind of a joke)) Ah, to bury a steel toe in that guy's chest... Well, there ya go. I hope that answers your question. On to other things... $23 t shirts: They are fucking you up the ass. Plain and simple. You pay for one of those, you're bending over the table and letting Glenn and American Records drive it home. Just becuase everyone (stores, other bands) do it doesn't make it right. I think it's the biggest joke in the world. Maybe it's cos I'm in the hard core scene, where bands with little or no financial backing manage to sell t shirts for 5-12 dollars (and yes, they can be every bit as high quality. My Earth Crisis shirt (XXX!!!!) (no, not xxx large...) which I got for $8 is actually higher quality than your silk screened Danzig tour shirt cos, whoah, it's 3 sided (woo!). That and it looks damn snappy. So I personally say $23 shirts? fuck that... Earth Crisis, All Out War, aw yeah. How's the Cd sound? I have the old 7" of it, i wonder if it sounds better. New album, i need it right now. Good Earth Crisis story: when i was hurtling towards the breaking up stage with my last girlfriend, one morning I put on my Earth Crisis shirt. She goes "that's a cool shirt, who are they?" So I say "here, read the lyrics." She had started selling acid and had this childish attitude "drugs are cool and make me look cool" along with "I used to be staight edge, but I broke up with my straight edge boyfriend so I started drinking to get back at him". I give her the lyrics to "Firestorm" and sit back and watch her expression. "I hate these guys!" "Yeah, well they hate you." Dempz ------------------------------ From: DelJ@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:25:10 -0400 Subject: Re: #2(2) Misfits Bible, #85 Umm, like, when the Klingons were chasing Glenn and Eerie through through the Starship Enterpris, and they had to get into that locked vault to escape to their next gig in the darkest dimension of Plan 9, umm, what was the combination on the lock???? Just teasing! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:21:16 -0400 (EDT) From: He-Who-Can-Not-Be-Named Subject: Glenn's Name GoatboyAK@aol.com --- I went to school with Danzig's niece... his name IS Anzalone, as is hers.. (Amy Anzalone, actually).. the high school is in NJ, not far from Lodi (I'm only around 15 minutes from Lodi). (For everyone's satisfaction, so I don't get questioned - she's VERY attractive, a junior in HS, and does NOT like to talk about Glenn) But back to more misfits oriented shtuff.. Maybe I should address this to SHE... but anyway, could anyone perhaps ask Jerry or Doyle to check the lyrics for Devilock?? I've seen about 20 different versions of this song!! -------------------------------------------------------------------- "We all want our time in hell....." -Samhain ---------------------- damage@interactive.net ---------------------- ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:38:05 -0400 Subject: tab. i did brush up a few tunes but mark said jerry was supposed to to some stuff so, i left it to him. im pretty sure my copy of earth ad has that D-Db sequence in it but i'm not perfect, i never said the tab. wasn't helpfull although sometimes slightly incorrect it is very helpfull! thanks for the input though "c" eng! later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:44:20 +0200 From: Ludde Berntsson Subject: another movie title and stuff.......................... Hi all you misfits! This will be the first time that I write to the bible. And I don't know if anybody is interested in this but, i'm a 21 year old guy from sweden, who's been listening to the Misfits for about 4 years now. One of the reasons for me writing to you is to give Mark another movie title for the www. GIRL IN LOVERS LANE I saw that on the internet on someones weird-movie list. I do have some movie posters in .gif format of films with an influence on THE MISFITS, just wondering if anybody is interrested. The movie posters is: Blood feast Invaders from mars Plan 9 from outer space Psycho Return of the fly She Teenagers from mars The angry red planet The she creature My favorite songs: Misfits - All Hell Breaks Loose Samhain - (aint got no) Danzig - 777 De Lyckliga Kompisarna - Evigt Liv Well that would be all, thanx for reading. ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:15:51 -0400 Subject: live at max's i agree with glenn, they shouldn't release max's x-mas in that form. it's way to doctored! they should've left it alone, in it's original form. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: ols@home.interaccess.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:02:24 -0600 Subject: copulating maggots speaking of the maggots copulating.. Isn't it cool how some Misfits songs sometimes have upbeat music but morbid lyrics? (Some kind hate, Last Carress, American Nightmare...[others?]) Chris--yer news on 4p theft is old.. Goatboy..thanks fer the info on the Misfits packet thing, I'm lookin foward to seeing that.. welcome back evb...I always enjoy reading yer replys..very interesting :) --Greg ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: barbie bites the dust Date: Wed, 7 Jun 95 15:26:24 MESZ ceng asked what flexbook.zip was (don't have the original quote so i don't really know what he was referring to). anyway, flexbook.zip is the zip file of my flex book with 4000 us punk & hardcore record reviews, with track listings, infos etc. it's on a ftp site for everyone, so get it & help me to write more reviews. ftp.uwp.edu and it's in /pub/incoming/lists/flexbook.zip or /pub/music/lists/flex/flexbook.zip cheers flex ------------------------------ From: STONE99312@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:09:04 -0400 Subject: Re: #1(2) Misfits Bible, #85 NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDERWAY TO BOOK THE MISFITS INTO THE LIMELIGHT IN N.Y.C. HALLOWEEN OCT. 31ST 1995. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST LIVE MISFITS SHOW ANYWHERE IN 13 YEARS. STAY TUNED AS TO WHO THE NEW SINGER WILL BE. NEAT, NEAT, NEAT. ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:58:53 -0400 Subject: AOL folder All right AOL fiends, There is a new Danzig folder. Um, do the keyword Music thing. Then download that stuff. Click on Communications, Message Center, and Industry Generated Topic. Alternative A-L, and it's in there. Chris ------------------------------ From: HororHotel@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:54:14 -0400 Subject: miscellaneous bullshit... I just saw a commercial for Boeing or some other airplane company advertising their new super airplane- the 777. The flying plane of the damned! I wonder if they knew of the apocolyptic overtones of their planes new name. Just wait until some Christian wacko group accuses them of being devil worshipers, like Proctor & Gamble. I was looking through Sony Music's Ozzy Osbourne web page today, and in one of the things it mentioned this about John Christ: >>John Christ from the band Danzig was recently given an assignment by RIP magazine to interview Ozzy for the cover of their October issue. It had been very difficult scheduling this interview given Ozzy's recording schedule and Danzig's touring schedule, but finally everything came together today when Ozzy and John sat down together at Ozzy's hotel to talk. They got on really well and ended up talking for five hours ( the interview had been scheduled for just two hours). You can read all the details in the October issue of RIP.<< I looked in a comic book buyer's guide to see how much Crystar #8 is worth. In mint condition, it fetches a whole whopping $1. You might want to check in your local comic shop's bargain bin for a copy of this one. Who was the singer from Kryst the Conqueror? The CD just lists him as Kryst (and there's no picture) but the guy's voice sounds really familiar to me, although I don't know from where. It kind of reminds me of one of Yngwie Malmsteen's old singers, although I don't think that is right. Maybe the guy's style of singing just sounds a lot like dozens of other metal singers from the eighties bands I used to listen to. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 17:07:27 -0700 (MST) From: cep@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (Mario and Ellie) Subject: Re:just a few questions and stuff... 1) Does anyone know where the Braineaters video was shot? We know it was at some resturaunt in Boston (but which one)? 2) We have a Samhain video - Live at the Roxy in 1985. It's kinda shitty quality photography but it's pretty cool. It has some short interviews with the band. If anyone is interested, let us know. I'm gonna try to find out shipping costs so if anyone wants one, you can send that price plus the price of a blank tape and We'd be happy to make some copies. (We'd be VERY happy to trade it for any Misfits videos anyone out there has). Oh, by the way, any copies of Misfits videos or old interviews would be greatly appreciated. We'll pay for shipping and stuff. You can write to us at the adress above or at: 4410 S. Lance Rd. Flagstaff, AZ 86001 3) To EVB: I agree that girls who dress "sleazy" probably get harassed more than others, but it's no excuse for the band, roadies or anyone else to give them shit. Not all womwn who dress that way are out to get laid by the band. I'm not denying the presence of groupies, but people should know that no matter what anyone chooses to wear, they deserve just as much respect as everyone else. Perhaps I misunderstood what you said, who knows... 4) We would like to repeat the question from our first post: if anyone has a copy of the radio show with Jerry and Doyle, please write or let us know somehow. 5) Last, is it true??? Will the Misfits really play in NJ on Halloween? Please give all the information... How much is it to get into the Horror Convention? We need to know as we are planning a trip to MA and NJ and are trying to decide if we'll go in mid-July or wait until October. Okay, that's enough for now... -Ellie and Mario Favorite songs... Misfits- Halloween (7" version) and Teenagers from Mars Samhain- Archangel and the Howl Glenn's band-uh, I mean Danzig- none Glenn related- Spook City, U.S.A. and Shifter (Black Aria) Ellie and Mario ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:20:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Maries Snavely Subject: email i have changed to my original addres.. please everyone leave mail to masnavel@sendit.nodak.edu instead of relapse@cris.com.. thanks -evilive ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ From: PETERSM6449@uni.edu Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 12:30:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: RATFINK I have some input on this whole RATFINK issue. There was indeed, as was posted, there was an old song titled RAGMOP. The vocal lines for RATFINK are an obvious rip-off from this song (phrasings and everything). RAGMOP was recorded in 1950 by The Ames Brothers with the Sid Ramen Orchestra. This is a total, typical big band dance song. I can make copies for anybody interested; it's great to have as a novelty piece for any die-hard Misfits fan. This song also starts out with M-O-P-P and later adds the rest: R-A-G-G-M-O-P-P with lots of bee-boppin' stuff and horns going on. I assume since they used RATFINK instead, they didn't have to repeat anything to make F-I-N-K fit in, but still had to sing two T's for RAT. The whole thing of the RATFINK cartoon character associated with 50's hot rods is true as well, but if memory serves, the Al Sherman song is in no way similar. Could be wrong, it's been a long time since I've heard that one. -Marc ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 01:02:10 -0400 Subject: Happy Birthday Don! Just thought I'd take this time to wish EevilDon a happy 17th!!! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 18:07:58 +0400 (EET-DST) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: Danzig live... Hi all, just came back from Provinssi Rock festival , here in Finland, where Danzig was one of the headlining bands. The weather was sunny all day long. When Danzig got on stage... it started raining!! :) The last time I saw Danzig was ... 3 maybe 4 years ago in England. This time the band played much better and Glenn was actually smiling and talking in between songs! One of his quotes (about the rain and before going into "how the gods kill") : "The gods are making love to the earth..." . Apart from a couple of songs, the rest from 4p were unknown to me (since I don't have the album). I was amazed with "Brand new god"! What a song! After Danzig, in another stage, Bad Religion played! I've *never* managed to see them live before and when they played "we're only gonna die"...I almost died too :). EXCELLENT! Ok, I'll stop now, 'cause this is the MISFITS bible. Yea, another thing : Many Misfits shirts in the crowd! When I actually tried to tell some people about the Misfits getting back together, nobody believed me, they all thought I was talking crap! Oh, I was trying to find Brian Baker after the gig, to ask him about the Samhain thing but he was nowhere to be found. Instead I hanged a bit with Greg Hetson and Jay Bentley (who are both really cool guys) and they told me "yea, Brian was in Samhain for 3 days...before getting kicked out" :) BTW, Brent, how can someone get a copy of Endpoint's "the last record"? And finally, Elizabeth...I was NOT talking about Danzig T-shirts...I know their price :) Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos IOANNIS.NIKOLOPOULOS@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### -- Make a difference -- ### ### ------------------------------ From: Hunnysmack@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 16:49:52 -0400 Subject: ONLY 12 MORE!! Hello Fiends - Good news - I've only got about 12 more of the "Evil is As Evil Does" videos and I will be finally finished! All audio tapes have been dubbed and shipped... These are the final 12 people (just so you know): Bryce Anton, Bob Brustman, John Savee, Tim Thompson, PD Hardgrave, Mike Westlake, Stephen Waters, Travis Krause, Jim Soboloski, Andrew Smetek, Thomas Envall, and finally Chris McClain. Look for the videos sometime next week for the first 6 people and the following week for the last 6. Thanks a lot, I'm glad I could do my part in bringing you all the videos and audios you crave... Brent ------------------------------ From: She Subject: 85 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 0:25:28 EDT Goatboy To answer some of your MANY questions... > this crossed my mind, i guess that glenn went to school in Lodi, about 74-77, > can anyone possibly get a yearbook, and look him up??? THIS WILL FINALLY GIVE > US AN ANSWER TO HIS "REAL" NAME..(ANZALONE, ZALONE, DANZIG, OR > WAHTEVER)....did he have a devilock???, was he VOTED most likely to fail in > life???(ha ha h a)..the jokes probably on the kids now, who always made fun > of him!!!SOMEONE OUT THERE MUST!! HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL W/ HIM!!! Glenn Anzalone graduated from Lodi High School in '73. He had very long brown hair, sort of like Ozzy had at some points in Sabbath. His inspiration was to go to trade school. > > WHERES JOHN CHRIST NOW???? Finland with the rest of the band. > WHATS UP WITH ROBO????? Living in Vernon, NJ and working. > WHERES JOEY IMAGE????? Living in NY, has a new band. > WHERES MANNY???? Last seen in Allentown PA in August of 1990. REcently discussed. > WHERES (WHO/WHAT IS) MR. JIM????? Lodi NJ, working in a video store. Still plays the drums. > WHAT IS THE SONG "SHE" ABOUT????? Patty Hearst. > WHAT THE FUCK IS RATFINK ABOUT????? Read other posts. > 1)---who are the kids singing backup vocals on Braineaters on the walk among > us lp??? the misfits, of course all this stuff and lots more is on the page. AOL does have WWW access now, so please everyone take a look at it. It can probably answer most of your questions. If there's anyway on the list with AOL access who knows how to get to the page, please post and explanation to the whole mailing list. This would save a LOT of wasted time. Other stuff.... EVB, glad to FINALLY have you come back to life.... hasta mark . ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Hello Re: Misfits Bible, #86 Samhain Boxed Set/Descent my art tribute I Need to See the Misfits Live RE: Taking evil seriously re: Misfits Bible #86 blah, blah, blah ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 00:42:01 -0400 From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #86 Kryst The Conqueror's singer is indeed former Yngwie M singer Jeff Scott Soto. Good guess. mark ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 01:08:43 -0400 Subject: 06/15 my birthday-tribute thanks chris! come on guys you're dying to have all the people on the bible hear your versions of misfits tunes! if i don't get any more submisions after this week i'll close the list and start taking up tapes. remember what you send to me is what will be put on so make it the best you want it to be! thanks! later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: DOYLE341@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 02:12:38 -0400 Subject: MISFITS BIBLE HEY THERE EVERYONE. IT'S DOYLE341 HERE IN TEXAS, WITH A LITTLE STUFF TO SAY. FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS ABOUT GLENN TAKING EVIL A LITTLE TOO SERIOUSLY THESE DAYS. I LIKE THE MISFITS ATTITUDE BETTER. ALSO, I AM INTERESTED IN TRADING WITH ALL YOU PEOPLE. I HAVE LOTS OF MISFITS STUFF(MUSIC, VIDEOS), AND I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE A LOT THAT I DON'T HAVE, SO IF YOU WANT TO TRADE, LET ME KNOW. DOYLE341@AOL.COM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:18:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Dodsworth" Subject: Evil > From: Andrew Jerome Dempz > Subject: taking evil seriously... > > Well, you asked, here's your answer. I said in the first place I didn't > care to read any Danzig (the band) interviews because of the whole cheesy > evil trip. I don't know about the rest of you, but I see a great > difference between the tone of Misfits or Samhain interviews and Danzig > ones. Back in the Misfits, they were a bunch of kids writing songs > about horror movies and definately not taking it seriously (meaning they > didn't think they were all evil interviewers didn't set the tone to make > them seem evil, etc.). They were writing about movies, not "the true > existence of evil". The reason I don't like the current Danzig lyrics > and interviews (especially with Glenn himself, the John Christ interviews > I 've read make him seem to be a little more grounded in reality) is > because they seem to be taking the evil bit seriously. C'mon folks, this > is rock n roll for Christ's sake, not theology. Glenn is from the New > Jersey suburbs and the only "evil" thing to ever come out of that state > is the stench it is famous for. Now, I don't think he takes the entire > evil trip completely sriously himself. Sometimes, if it is just a I agree with you totally. Samhain and The Misfits had nothing to do with this satanist evil bullshit, although with the last album he seems to be trying to break away from it. i think its some kind of ploy to sell more records. That kind of shit appeals to alot of kids. Look at the popularity of Slayer or to a lesser degree Deicide whose whole basis of records is a Satanic ideology. You can bet your right arm, none of the members of those bands are satanists, they just want to sell records. -LD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 13:33:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Lord Valgamon Subject: upbeat music, morbid lyrics In response to ols@home.interaccess.com's comments in Bible #86 ... RO> speaking of the maggots copulating.. RO> Isn't it cool how some Misfits songs sometimes have upbeat music RO> but morbid lyrics? (Some kind hate, Last Carress, American RO> Nightmare...[others?]) I don't know about the rest of you, but this is one of, if not THE main reason why I love the Misfits so much. In what other genre of music do you see such "morbid lyrics" interlaced with music that ISN'T death/grindcore/ black metal and whose vocals aren't throaty, impossible-to-understand growls? (Nothing against death/grindcore/black metal... I am into those too). :) The misfits were successfully able to combine these morbid lyrics with a simple, yet brilliantly unique and catchy style of music, a marriage which, to this day, has yet to be equalled so perfectly. THAT is why I love the Misfits so much, and I'm sure at least ONE of you fiends agrees with me. :) Also, if the Misfits are really going to play the Limelight (or in NJ?) this coming Halloween (which would be a PERFECT evening for their first show in 13 years), can we get some more details here please? Do they even have an IDEA who the singer is going to be? Because if not, I will go down to Vernon and audition myself. I have been told I have an operatic sort of bass which is comparable to Roy Orbision or Glenn. Oh well, wishful thinking, but I would cut off all my limbs for the chance to be the "new misfits" singer. :) -- Lord Valgamon 1-800-241-7337 ext 1673# Keyprint = 89 66 DE 00 B5 20 49 0F 24 59 76 05 BA FC 45 70 - ID 8D542C89 "The government has fucked us, what a big surprise." - Aus Rotten Representin' the New Haven/Waterbury, Connecticut [203] punk and h/p scenes! ------------------------------ From: Hunnysmack@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 16:49:56 -0400 Subject: blee blo blah To Yannis and anyone else interested in the Enpoint CD: You can send me $9.50 (ppd US only) for the CD or 10" and I'll pass it on to my friend Eric at Art Monk Const./Lumberjack Dist. For Europe, add $4.00 for shipping. About T-shirts - Well, I recently put in an order to have a new batch of Smackerals of Hunny shirts printed up and it breaks down to about $6.50 a shirt...HEAVY DUTY 100% cotton, top of the line, etc. We sell them for ten bucks at small venues and through the mail. BUT, when we play larger places, the way it works is that the venue assumes responsibility for selling shirts and tacks on 4, 5, or however many additional dollars to cover their "costs" (yeah, right). I know - it's bullshit, but that's how they do it. My advice would be to catch your favorite bands in smaller clubs or to write them directly for shirts. You'll like the results. Oh, and be sure that the band actually HAS licensed shirts in existence before you write them. I know Ian from Fugazi would get a chuckle if you wrote to him asking for a shirt or sticker, etc. If you want the Endpoint CD, or any Smackerals of Hunny crap, send stuff to me at the same ol' address - 2005 Monitor Dr. Stafford, VA 22554 - Brent ------------------------------ From: HororHotel@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 20:49:40 -0400 Subject: Who Killed Marilyn? About a year ago, I read an interview with Marilyn Monroe's sister, promoting her new book about Marilyn's life. According to her, Monroe's doctor (who was giving her all sorts of drugs) fucked up and prescribed her a lethal mix of pills, then after realizing that he'd killed her, faked a suicide note. God only knows why the cops didn't investigate it better. Maybe someone should update the song for the nineties and call it "Who Killed Kurt?" ------------------------------ From: ols@home.interaccess.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 12:51:59 -0600 Subject: misfits show..wacky petition > NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDERWAY TO BOOK THE MISFITS INTO THE LIMELIGHT IN N.Y.C. > HALLOWEEN OCT. 31ST 1995. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST LIVE MISFITS SHOW ANYWHERE > IN 13 YEARS. STAY TUNED AS TO WHO THE NEW SINGER WILL BE. NEAT, NEAT, NEAT. HOLY SMOKES!! where you get yer info? Anyone read all that petition stuff... Way too much and nothing with the Misfits...sheesh --Greg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:27:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Arturo Scrogogna Subject: Misfits sighting...sorry! I know that this thread stopped many moons ago, but the bibles have been short lately and I thought that this could lengthen it a bit. I'm home from school now and have nothing to do until I have to work soon. Anyways, I was watching Showtime, well more or less flipping through channels, when I saw this guy with a leather jacket on with two Crimson Ghost patches on the sleeves. This surprised me since it was a movie about a country band! I think it was called "Harmony Cats" or something. Just to lengthen this a bit, I recently got a new Misfits shirt from my girlfriend. It's a long sleeve black shirt with the Crimson Ghost on the front and 5 mini gosts on the right sleeve. Well, I've rambled enough, bye. Misfits- Bullet Samhain- The Howl Danzig- It's Coming Down chrisgal@gladstone.uoregon.edu ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:15:57 -0400 Subject: crystar crystal warrior #8 well, i finally found it at dominion comics (not after the song) right there on the cover the samhain/danzig skull. he must've found it right when it came out because it was issued in "84 same year as initium which features the skull as part of the logo. as i'm sure you all know. now if i could just find chamber of chills #19! can anybody help? thanks! later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: ASmetek@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:42:35 -0400 Subject: Glenn's Backround Does anyone know Glenn's racial backround? I'm just curious. I recently got what looks to be an inlarged show flyer. It's around 2 feet by 1 1/2 feet. The date on it is Friday, October 8, 1982 and has a picture of a Braineater. (A guy sitting down by a plate with a head on it, fork and spoon in hand, eating brains.) It's drawn by Marc Rude. Anyone see this before? -Andrew "Ohh, but I'm so clean cut--I just wanna fuck some SLUT!" ------------------------------ From: PETERSM6449@uni.edu Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: BS letter After Glenn had a cover story/interview in the January '91 issue of Spin, this letter was printed in response; I thought I'd share. RAT(T)FINK Glenn Danzig, a hero? C'mon, get real. There's a big difference between a hero - one who's defied the odds, and wins - and a villain, one who creates difficult odds afainst others in order to crush their opportunities. The truth is that Glenn is far from the "evil Elvis" that the media is portraying him to be. In my opinion he's a paranoid schizophrenic who has ruined a lot of friends' lives because he thought they might be doing something to him. I've tried over the past few years to contact him and try to set things straight, but he's avoided the issue to the point of trying to pretend that the Misfits, as well as Bobby Steele, never existed. Danzig is more like the Diana Ross of the '90s. Glenn, cut the hype bullshit. You don't need it. Musically, you're a fucking genius. Bobby Steele formerly of the Misfits New Milford, New Jersey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:30:34 -0700 From: Ricky Hinojos Subject: IRC and you! Romping through the internet the other day, I thought I'd stop by on #misfits, to see if anyone was there. I found a bot named WolfBlood, but no humans. Not even myself. It got me to thinking, though. There's been talk of a 'Fits convention somewhere on the East Coast. Fine and dandy for those who either live close enough or can afford such a trip. How many of ya'll have access to IRC? How about having a scheduled 'Bible session every now and then (maybe once a month?) to discuss things in real-time? Maybe a little interaction with other members may help spice things up in the 'Bible. Just a little thought from me. Sometimes you'll catch me on IRC, as Brujeria. Most commonly on #s bolo, guitar, lollipop and misfits. Talk to ya'll later... Lollipop Ryq ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:21:50 -0400 Subject: Hello Okay, about this shirt stuff....now I know I haven't been to nearly as many as concerts as you people....but at the Slayer show there was not a single shirt under $23, nor at the DT show, nor at the Metallica show, nor at the Megadeth show, nor at any other show I've been to. What my point is: don't blame Danzig for the prices....they're no worse than many other larger shows. Hey, is Glenn's niece dating anyone? He he, maybe we can hook up. Greg--was that 4P thing old news? I had no idea. I apologize. You know, I'm gonna do that petition thing. You think the FBI will have a file on me as being a possible commie, as they did in the 60s and 70s? As for the AOL WWW. Okay, it's still experimental so it has a lot of flaws....I have not bothered downloading it the new software making it available because just about everyone I know crashed. The new software should be bug free in the coming months... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:19:30 EDT From: "\\A corpse" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #86 Hello fiends On the question of the Show at the limelight I just have to say that I met Jerry and Doyle when they were at Willowbrook mall here in N.J. and I spent a few hours hanging out with them after the a few alternaphiles and headbangers got their Jerry Only posters (The one where he's in front of the Crimson ghost amps). Jerry told me that they were trying to book the Limelight show for august 29th and a show in Vernon for the first of September. I met the new singer he's about 20 and looks exactly like a young Danzig except that he has a bit more muscles. Also I Met C.H.U.D. the new drummer. They are going to be releasing two albulms. One is a show from Max's Kansas city recorded in '80 and the other is a new albulm. When I was talking to Kenny (Jerry and Doyle's younger brother) and the new singer they mentioned a new song that they were working on call 'Dr. Phibes Rises Again' named after that Vincent Price movie of the same name. Unlike old Misfits songs this on goes for six and a half minutes. Any Questions E-Mail Me Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 20:48:58 EDT From: RDYR69C@prodigy.com (GLENN H DANZIG) Subject: Samhain Boxed Set/Descent Hell-o everyone. I'm new to this list, so pardon if I ask stupid questions. I've heard that the Samhain boxed set is coming out on Halloween day of this year. Is this true or am I being lied to? Also, I'd like to know if there is at all any possibility of getting a live cut of the song "Descent." I looked through the discography on the Samhain page and didn't see that song listed on any of the releases. Anyways, since everyone else does it and I'm starting to feel unoriginal, I'll just list my favorite songs: Misfits:London Dungeon Samhain:Descent (big surprise) Danzig:Left Hand Black ------------------------------ From: ols@home.interaccess.com Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 17:18:24 -0600 Subject: my art I now have a home page of my own! It doesn't have much, but the real reason I'm informing you guys is that I have two samples of my artwork there. the URL is: http://www.moscow.com/homepages/ols@interaccess.com.html if you see it let me know! -Greg ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 22:35:00 -0400 Subject: tribute here's the status on the tribute: london dungeon/ bane she-bullet/ exit only she/ phreeks earth ad- mommy.../ ? (Part@aol.com) hollywood babylon-hybrid moments/ leech halloween/ smackerals of hunny horror business-we bite/ dead 32 return of the fly/ red-5 all hell breaks loose-teenagers from mars/ distressed halloween 2/ groom lake teenagers from mars-children in heat/ ? (ols@home.interaccess,com) braineaters/ ? (cternes@aol.com) where eagles dare/ solefish if you have any corrections or hapen to be one of the people who hasn't given me a name please get in touch with me as soon as possable so i can correct the list. thsnks. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: NMISFIT@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 00:08:34 -0400 Subject: I Need to See the Misfits Live I am an old hardcore fan, but never had the chance to see the Misfits live. Please get me into contact with anyone who has live videos of the Misfits. I am also interested in hearing anything about the band Negative Approach. Thank You, Veau ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 19:18:06 -0400 From: EVB Subject: RE: Taking evil seriously Ya know, it's rare that I find a Bible post I feel I have to dissect line by line, but I felt in this case I had to. Call it point-counterpoint. In issue # 86 Andrew Jerome Dempz said: >Well, you asked, here's your answer. I said in the first place I didn't care to read >any Danzig (the band) interviews because of the whole cheesy evil trip. I >don't know about the rest of you, but I see a great difference between the >tone of Misfits or Samhain interviews and Danzig ones. Back in the Misfits, >they were a bunch of kids writing songs about horror movies and definately >not taking it seriously (meaning they didn't think they were all evil >interviewers didn't set the tone to make them seem evil, etc.). They were >writing about movies, not "the true existence of evil". The reason I don't >like the current Danzig lyrics and interviews (especially with Glenn >himself, the John Christ interviews I 've read make him seem to be a little >more grounded in reality) is because they seem to be taking the evil bit seriously. Sure the Misfits were a "bunch of kids writing songs about horror movies." Maybe you'd rather they were still kids writing these songs (I'd bet a couple of them do too) but it's natural to get more serious about things as you get older, y'know? Maybe what you are trying to say is that the Misfits and their era are just more old-fashioned non-serious FUN than Danzig, and I can't dispute that. Given the choice between a low budget horror movie or a debate on the nature of evil, most folks would order the popcorn. >C'mon folks, this is rock n roll for Christ's sake, not theology. Who says these two concepts have to be mutually exclusive? I like music (as well as movies, books, comics) that make me THINK. Sheesh, there's enough brainless, inane rock n roll out there if that's what you'd prefer. Glenn's an intelligent, well read guy and this is a topic he's always been interested in; I think he's just widened and deepened his interest over the years, from simple horror violence to the basis of violence. I don't (personally) think it's outside the bounds of rock to discuss theology, or anything, on a fairly serious level. >Glenn is from the New Jersey suburbs and the only "evil" thing to ever come >out of that state is the stench it is famous for. Are some states more "evil" than others? I've noticed more serial killers come out of California and Florida than other states but I didn't know they were ranked by "evilness". >Now, I don't think he takes the entire evuil trip completely sriously >himself. I believe he takes the concept of evil seriously; it's certainly a serious subject. However he is not what I would describe as an "evil" person or trying to posture as one by encouraging willfully malicious acts. If anything the overwhelming message of many of his songs is one of thinking for yourself and taking responsibility for your own actions. That's hardly what I would describe as "evil". >Sometimes, if it is just a straight Q & A interview, he comes across as >reasonably normal. He comes across as the NJ kid who loved horror movies >and one day learned how to read so now he is fascinated with horror >literature as well as movies. >>However, interviewers (especially Spin, Rolling Stone, etc. Anyone > remember the Spin cover interview a few years back?) often try in their > introductions and, if it is more of an article with quotes from Glenn, > writings to make him seem all evil and scary but it just turns out really > cheesy. Is that his fault that the interviewers are poor writers? I understand he does try and screen out the more incompetant writers and rags but it's quite impossible to get control over the press, and some of those so-called "interviews" that come out are written around official press releases BECAUSE he wouldn't speak with the magazines in question! If you've read the press releases you'd realize these they are easy to spot. As for the "cheesy" tone of the interviews I'd say the interviewers who's looking for shock value is more to blame than Glenn is. >I'm pissed I can't remember who said it, but I love the quote "rock n roll >writing is people who can't write interviewing people who can't speak for >people who can't read." Great quote and please let me know if you remember the source! It's unfortunately true quite a lot of the time although thankfully there have been some EXCELLENT rock n' roll writers (such as Steve Sutherland, Simon Reynolds, and the late lamented Lester Bangs whom sadly most of you are too young to remember) >Most Danzig interviews leave me groaning because of the cheesiness. The >Misfits (as people) came across to me as being a lot more real (as in not >pretending to be anything). Funny, I would have put it the other way round, I think the Misfits were intentionally cheesy with their over-the-top schlocky horror image! I mean how can you take seriously somebody that purposely dresses like that; they were like a punk version of Kiss. >Plus I find them a lot more interesting cos I like the band a lot more and I >like that entire scene (early 80's hc) a lot more than Danzig's (mid 90's >scary metal). OK, at least this part of your rant makes some sense if you prefer a particular era of music. Maybe the early 80's harcore revival will come soon (hey, the DJ at the Thrill Kill Kult concert I saw the other night was trying to revive early '80's electropop) >Misfits interviews include little bits about other bands of the time like >NA while Danzig interviews include "So, you're touring with Marilyn Manson >again, eh? They're pretty scary..." I've said it before, I'll say it >again: I hate that band. So the bands around at the time that get mentioned in passing are one of the things you rank the interviews on? Sad.... >Am I the only one who gets the impulse to break that heroin-adict-looking >singer's back? .....(quote deleted) Ah, to bury a steel toe in that guy's >chest... Well, there ya go. I hope that answers your question. Man, you call other people "evil" and then you talk about willfully causing injury to folks for no discernable reason other than you don't like their existence? Or do you just have it in for people who can read? (Manson being one of the other most well-read folks in rock that I've encountered) Isn't that living up to the very defintion of "evil" yourself? Do you consider yourself to be an "evil" person or are you just unaware of the way you come across? (Sigh. You know, it's really hard to try and be polite and rational when what you really want to say is DIE DIE DIE EVIL MOTHERFUCKER AND ROT IN HELL. There, I got that off my chest....) . >$23 t shirts: They are fucking you up the ass. Plain and simple. My what a refreshing frankness in the speech of young guttertrash... >You pay for one of those, you're bending over the table and letting Glenn >and American Records drive it home. Just becuase everyone (stores, other bands) >do it doesn't make it right. I think it's the biggest joke in the world. > Maybe it's cos I'm in the hard core scene, where bands with little or no >financial backing manage to sell t shirts for 5-12 dollars (and yes, they >can be every bit as high quality. My Earth Crisis shirt >(XXX!!!!) (no, not xxx large...) which I got for $8 is actually higher >quality than your silk screened Danzig tour shirt cos, whoah, it's 3 sided >(woo!). That and it looks damn snappy. So I personally say $23 shirts? > fuck that... Well hey, I'm glad for you if the bands you like make cheap shirts. Personally I only wear shirts by bands (or comics, movies whatever) that I like and they don't make $8 shirts. I've seen people who give shirts away for free but I wouldn't want 'em because they weren't what I was into & I wasn't impressed by the artwork. I'm not complaining about the price - I have no problem in paying it and I don't mind forking out $20-23 for a shirt with quality artwork, especially by (deservedly) well known artists. I'm sure the folks that make $8 shirts are designing them by themselves or getting a buddy to draw something for free and while some of that artwork might be good quality I'd be real surprized if it's on a level with the likes of Simon Bisley, Michael Kaluta, Tim Vigil, Basil Gogos etc. (Or if it is these artists won't be unknown for long, that's for sure!) And if they can do 4 color screening for $8 including the cost of the shirt more power to them - they must be doing it themselves! Besides, I wasn't complaining about the price, I was only stating it. Price isn't an issue with me and I don't mind paying for what I feel is quality merchandise; hey I'm the sort that prefers to buy hardcover books over paperbacks no matter how much more they cost. Hell, if it's something I really like I'll spring for the the leatherbound slipcased edition! And how can a shirt be 3 sided anyway? Did they print on the inside of it so it's reversible? Inquiring minds want to know! Sorry this was so long, had to had it off my chest...... Anyway, if folks are REALLY interested in reading up on the concept of "evil" I can highly recommend the series of books by Univ of California professor Jeffrey Burton Russell (published by Cornell University Press) that traces the evolution of concepts of "evil" in Western civilization from the pre-Christian era to the present day. The series consists of 4 volumes - The Devil, Satan, Lucifer and Mephistopheles and a condensed overview of those books has also been published as The Prince of Darkness. It's very well written & illustrated & makes fascinating reading - I learned beaucoup from this set (including how much the founders of Christianity ripped off earlier religions like Zoroastrism And if anybody else like me LIKES intentionally cheesy evil bands, check out Electric Hellfire Club! Burn baby burn!! -EVB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 19:37:01 -0400 From: EVB Subject: re: Misfits Bible #86 After the lengthy comment on one post I wanted to send comments on some others... C.Eng - RE: the Necronomicon There's a great book _about_ the Necronomicon that does a wonderful job of "backing up" this great tome - it's called "The Necronomicon: The book of Dead Names" edited by George Hay with an intro by Colin Wilson. man they musta had a field day writing this to make it all look more "real". Ah, if HPL were only still around to see what he started... (and yes, I've got all the books of his correspondances too - man, he wrote even more letters than I do!) DelJ - and the combination is, uh, 1-3-8??? Ludde - What does Girl in Lovers Lane have to do with the Misfits? (Only know of it from MST3000) ols@home.interaccess.com - I think one of my fav things about he Misfits is the morbid lyrics & the catchy upbeat tunes. Does cause a problem tho when they stick in your head & you find yourself singing songs like "Last Caress" to yourself at work. Whoops! STONE99312@aol.com - keep us posted! HororHotel - yeah, I'm been chuckling over the Boeing "777" since it was announced!! And yes, Crystar # 8 is found in all the better bargain bins- I pick 'em up every time I find one & pass 'em on, they've ranged in price froma quarter to (shudder) a whole dollar. Heard a few years back that the singer for Kryst was indeed the guy from Yngwie Malstreem's band moonlighting uncredited. Marie & Ellie - You might have partly misunderstood me - by NO means do I condone guys behaving like that towards any women. It is very regrettable that it happens, unfortunately some women only encourage it. I didn't mean girls that are just "dressed up", I meant the ones that dress like would be prostitutes. Some Verotik news - Jaguar God #1 is now in the stores, looks like they are finally getting things closer to a regular schedule! well, better scram for now! -EVB ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 00:26:07 -0400 Subject: blah, blah, blah no offense to anybody but, who wrote all of the misfits music and lyrics? who wrote all the samhain music and lyrics? face it, it's none other than glenn danzig! stop slamming him. nobody said you have to like everything he's done but, whatever it is you do like, he wrote it all. and by the way dempz have you ever heard a samhain interview or read a samhain interview? i guess not, most of them i've read seem to contain more of that "evil trip" stuff than any of the danzig interviews i've read. like i said i'm not trying to offend anyone! just think about it. you don't have to like it but it is true, he wrote it ALL! 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Subscribe Happy Bday Glenn Misfits, what else I Don't Mind The Pain posssible to get cd's Bootlegs and tape trading wolfsblood Collectors ? misheard lyrics and other shit Tapes and CD's Re: Misfits Bible, #87 some more... some comments... RE: bible #87 more evil, and hopefully the end ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 01:48:42 -0400 From: She Subject: AOL People - read this Sorry to pick on you directly, but it seems to be just an AOL problem. if you are going to lose your account or change your name or something, please let me know. Tonight I received 8 bounced messages from AOL people who no longer exist. It's no fun to deal with all that shit. And about getting to the Misfits home page. It takes very little creativity to find it. Click on the Internet Services (or whatever it's called) icon and the World Wide Web, aka _WWW_ is right there. mark oh yeah, does anybody want a Peter Steele autograph? I have one that I don't want. Also, I just got email from Angela (from CA) who says "hey" to everyone. ------------------------------ From: STONE99312@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 02:10:06 -0400 Subject: THE REAL DEAL AS FAR AS "WHERE DO I GET MY INFORMATION FROM" I AM INVOLVED WITH THE BAND AND I AM THE PERSON NEGOTIATING WITH THE LIMELIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE 'FITS. HERE IS SOME MORE FACTS; WE ARE GEARING UP TO SHOOT A PILOT FOR "CHILLER THEATRE PRESENTS; HOSTED BY THE MISFITS" WE ARE RENAVATING A BARN IN VERNON N.J. WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE MISFITS DUNGEN SET. IF ANYONE HAS SEEN ANY OF THE APPEARENCES THAT THEY HAVE MADE IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS THEN YOU HAVE SEEN PART OF THE SET ALREADY. IF IT IS NOT PICKED UP BY THE SCI-FI CHANNEL OR ANYONE ELSE IT WILL BE RELEASED THRU THE FIEND CLUB. AS FAR AS THE SINGER ISSUE HERE IS ANOTHER CLUE "THIS SONGS FOR YOU ,IT IS A LOVE SONG" HE IS THE FIRST CHOICE IF IT CAN BE WORKED OUT. COME ON PEOPLE, WHAT IS HIS NAME? ------------------------------ From: DelJ@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 02:33:29 -0400 Subject: Re: #2(2) Misfits Bible, #87 To Quote "Nature Boy" Ric Flair, the self-proclaimed dirtiest player in the game, "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!" EVB just destroyed some pencil neck geek which just goes to show, as "Hot Rod" Roddy Piper would say, "You don't throw rocks at a man (or in this case, woman) with a machine gun!" In other words, think before you write/post, Ignorance will not be tolerated!!! Cya Del (the second dirtiest player) ------------------------------ From: ols@home.interaccess.com Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:31:12 -0600 Subject: IRC, Lovers lane, Samhain covers whoa! brujeria! I've heard them- mexican death metal. (cool CD cover) anyways- good idea with IRC... I don't go on much, but if I'm on, I'll be Uroboros. I used to be "Fiend" but there were others already w/the handle. (nothing to do with the misfits though.) Sorry, Chris--if I sounded snooty 'bout the 4p thing-- I didn't mean it. A question: What's with left hands? There Samhain's "Lords of the Left Hand" and Danzig's "Left Hand Black". I heard it used to be an evil thing to be left handed... is that true? Oh yeah! Don! Samhain songs are allowed, yes? I might like to do that...but i'll get back to you on that. EVB- Girl on Lovers Lane is in Mommy can i go out and kill tonight. you know: "I killed a girl on lover's lane, I kept her toes and teeth..." [whoa! something I knew and EVB didn't know :)] Don- I believe Jerry wrote most Misfits music... ------------------------------ From: Jaymz666@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 15:23:49 -0400 Subject: Rollins' "Get in the Van" For those of you who don't know already, Henry Rollins has a coffee table book version of "Get in the Van: On the Road w/ Black Flag" chock full of cool pictures including pictures of the Misfits, Chuck Biscuts, and more. I have no clue how much it runs, but it's worth every penny. It's GREAT! Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 95 20:07:19 EDT From: G Subject: Sorry, but another Sighting Apologies, but I just thought I'd throw in another sighting. It's in Dazed and Confused. It's the part where Clint rolls by in his car, past the girls, I think Low Rider is playing. Anyway, a guy on a motorcycle drives past and cuts in front of them wearing a Misfits jacket. Yet the movie is set in 1976? Sorry, but I thought it was cool. THanks, G. G (Galen Myers)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave."-Les "Did you ever look at a dollar bill man, there's some spooky stuff going on on a dollar bill man. I mean and it's green too."-Slater "Why are you different, why are you that way, if you don't get in line, we'll lock you away."-Dave Matthews "You're crystal ball ain't so crystal clear, so while you sit back and wonder why I got this fucking thorn in my side."-Beasties "I don't mean to shatter your ego, but this is not the first time I've had a gun pointed at me."-Jules ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~It's just a signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 14:33:46 -0400 Subject: satanism actually deicide are devil worshipers. slayer is fake. listen to some samhain interviews the one chris (i believe it was chris ternes) posted one of the members of samhain admitted to commiting murder, as well as robbing graves. so if you want to slam danzig might as well slam samhain as well. if i recall the die,die t-shirt has a pentagram on the back there somewhere. also you probably don't even know that "satanist" and "devil worshiper" are almost totaly different. no offense to anyone. just get the facts straight. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: "Beaulac, Jody (Temp)" Subject: Devilock Date: Tue, 20 Jun 95 08:57:00 PDT A question that has been bugging me for years...maybe someone has the answer: I know that a devilock is the kind of hair style that the Misfits have (long, black bangs going down the middle of their head), but DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THEY GOT THAT FROM? Is this from a movie or a comic or something? ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 14:34:09 -0400 Subject: shut up bobby! come on bobby, yeah, and your real name is franche comma and you played on the halloween single too right! glenn is a musical genius though. can't say much about his pesonality sinca i've never met him and i'm sure most of you haven't met him either, or met him after a show, actually the people i know who have actually met him said he was an extremely nice guy, excepting only the guy who got pissed because glenn wouldn't sign his bootlegs. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 23:53:28 EDT From: RDYR69C@prodigy.com (GLENN H DANZIG) Subject: Evil Bands In the misfits bible #87, L. Dodsworth wrote:"You can bet your right arm, none of the members of those bands are satanists, they just want to sell records." Maybe true, maybe not. First off, most christians I know would gleefully accuse me of being "evil" for liking horror movies and preferring to write songs about dead presidents and how I like the way that heads come off, not exactly the stuff of good. Second, you're right most of them probably aren't satanists. Slayer for sure isn't. How do I know? Anton Szandor LaVey, leader of the Church of Satan said so himself (additionally, he thought Marilyn Manson was very satanic and loved them so much that he made Mr. Manson a priest as a reward for his efforts). Still, should it matter so much if they hold every bit they say as strongly as we do? No matter what they believe, they are still giving me what I want to hear: good music and lyrics in which I can see a point and more often than not agree with. Aren't we all an image of some sort? -Psycho 78 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 13:06:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Dodsworth" Subject: Live CD Boots I have pretty much all the studio albums, Beware: The Complete Singles, and Beyond Evil: Demos+Outtakes (Which I just got, and is a good buy for any big fan). I want to get a good live show for my collection. Does anyone have any good suggestions as to the best Misfits Live CD Boot? I am looking for good sound and as many songs as poss. Are any of the boots better quality then Evil Live? On another note: You guys should check out a band called The Mummies. They are very similar to The Misfits in many ways. They both broken up. They are inspired by b-movies. Their albums are hard to find. They get dressed up for their shows. They are a little lighter then the Misfits, but they are more punk then hardcore. They don't have any CD releases, although I have seen one bootleg CD. A good release is the 12" Play their own Record. -LD ldodswor@access.digex.net "Trust and you will be Trusted says the Liar to the Fool" - Type O Negative ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Yeah yeah yeah..." Subject: Die Die 12" A quick Question... What are the differenes between the ORIGINAL Die Die My Darling 12" EP and the Caroline REPRESS? Is there a difference? I know that there is an original pressing on colored vinyl... The reason I ask is that I picked up a copy from this jackass at a used record store for 6 bucks... It has NO caroline logos, serial numbers, addresses, etc... Absolutley no reference to Caroline at all... And as most people know, Caroline LOVES to make their company known (look at any other record they distribute...). So, I'm just wondering if I can chalk up another original in my collection, or does it go in the stack of Represses and bootlegs? If possible, just email me instead of posting here. Or Do both... Or whatever... Thanks in advance... Jason P.S. - I'm kind of looking for Samhain bootleg Cds... Can't find them ANYWHERE anymore... They used to be easily available.. If anyone has info, please let me know... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 16:14:12 -0400 From: "Northern Graphics, Inc." Subject: No Misfits: Quote info >>"rock n roll writing is people who can't write interviewing people who can't >>speak for people who can't read." >Great quote and please let me know if you remember the source! That's Frank Zappa. I don't know when the quote is from, though. Sorry. -Dave =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - "Don't you hate it when the most violent people - = in the whole club are the people you show up = - with?" - Squinky Q. Maggot - =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 18:31:28 -0400 From: "Warren A. Propst" Subject: Glen & Evil Well, I was going to go without saying anything about this, but hey, I'm a big fan of Glen, no matter how he feels about the Misfits or anything else. First of all, If you don't like the "evil trip" thing, don't listen to Danzig. (If you ask me, Samhain had that evil sound too) And as for the Misfits being more real...get real. Someone said last issue that the 'fits were just four kids playing music and having fun. This is the heart of music, what being in a band is all about, whether a successful band or not. Maybe that's what Dempz meant when he said they were more real. But indeed, they were cheesy and fake in their music, like the horror B-flicks that inspired them. Danzig is deeper, more psychological, and frankly, you can have enough of the cheesy B-flick stuff after a while. (Though about 5 minutes later you can usually go right back). To me, something more serious breaks things up, makes for more vari- ety. Man cannot live by Misfits alone, though he may try. Take a listen to "Going down to Die" on 4p. This is not evil, and it certainly is real. Danzig and the Misfits each have their pros, it's all about what you feel like at the time. (Even when waht you feel like is going out to violently slaughter a band's singer because you don't like his voice or looks) Vlad Tempes with a vengeance PS: $23 t-shirts--who's heard of this band anyway? Go to a major band's show, any major band, and $23 sometimes seems like a bargain. (Esp. classic rock shows: Led Zeppelin 1995 t-shirts went for 30-35 at the show, Jethro Tull 1994, $25-30. -- "Kadath in the cold wastes hath known them, and what man knows Kadath?" -the Necronomicon- bk902@freenet.buffalo.edu; part@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 14:16:48 +0200 From: Ludde Berntsson Subject: Re Bible 86 Well I think I have to answer to EVB >Ludde - What does Girl in Lovers Lane have to do with the Misfits? (Only= =20 >know of it from MST3000) MOMMY, CAN I GO OUT AND KILL TONIGHT? "Killed a girl on lovers' lane I kept her toes and teeth" That=B4s it i think Bye! Ludde@pi.se ------------------------------ From: "Beaulac, Jody (Temp)" Subject: Return Of The Fly Record Date: Thu, 22 Jun 95 12:39:00 PDT Hey....has anybody every heard of a Return Of The Fly Record with the following songs: Return Of The Fly She (Original) Horror Hotel Last Carress Who Killed Marilyn? (Original) Spook City, U.S.A. Rise Above (Live) I have it, but I've never heard of it before. There are other one's with just one or two songs, but I've never seen one with all these songs. ------------------------------ From: Samhain666@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 17:41:06 -0400 Subject: Black Aria type music wanted... Can anyone please recomend some dark and eerie sounding classical music, similer to Black Aria? I love that album, but it is so short and I would like to find some more gothic sounding classical music. Any ideas? -Carey Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 16:39:14 +0000 From: "Jake Starr/ADAM WEST" Subject: Subscribe Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline Status: RO sign me up! my band ADAM WEST worships the Misfits. we released a fan-club- only 7"45 of a cover of "cough/cool." have you ever known any band to cover that song? i have almost every 7", but i've been looking for a horror business with the alternative sleeve. i think there are about 50 of 'em. anyway, i still have a few "cough/cool" 7"s left for sale ($5) if you or anybody else wants them. we don't do that live anymore, but we do "she" as an encore. jake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 23:08:16 -0400 From: She Subject: Happy Bday Glenn June 23rd Glenn turns 40. Also, I have one last Jerry Only poster. It was autographed for a friend of mine named Mike Taylor, so if that's your name, you're in luck. First message to me gets it. It'll cost about $5 for postage if you're in the US, so keep that in mind. ($2.50 for tube, and $2.50 for postage). And I've still got that Peter Steele (from Type O Negative) autograph for whoever wants it. On top of that, if you're a Metallica fan, I'm tryint to sell my "Garage Complete" CD. hasta bananas mmmmmmark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 12:38:09 -0400 From: "Warren A. Propst" Subject: Misfits, what else A Corpse (mozzer@pegasus.rutgers.edu) mentioned seeing the Misfits at a mall...what was that? You met the new singer? Gee, and I was looking forward to seeing Lord Valgamon singing with no limbs. :-) Let's hope this guy's good, and I don't know about the rest of you fiends, but I hope he's not some Danzig imitator. Seems to me that Jerry and Doyle probably were looking for some- thing very different, though. On a non-Misfits, but worthy note, is it true that the Ramones are breaking up, even as the Misfits are getting back together? A friend of mine saw them at HFStival (RFK stadium, Wash. DC) along with Mike Watt and some crap like Belly, and he said it was supposed to be one of their last shows, maybe next-to last. Great woe, I never got to see them. :( A kinder gentler Vlad Tempes Misfits: We are 138, Night of the Living Dead Samhain: Halloween II, has to be Danzig: Her Black Wings; Violet Fire -- "Kadath in the cold wastes hath known them, and what man knows Kadath?" -the Necronomicon- bk902@freenet.buffalo.edu; part@aol.com ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 01:48:58 -0400 Subject: I Don't Mind The Pain The CD single is out with 2 more songs from that Seattle show. It's the same type of mixing, so if you didn't like the two on "cantspeak" I doubt you'll like these. "Bringer Of Death" and "Little Whip" are the two. Personally, I don't like the mixing...it sounds like it's live in the studio or some shit....I don't know, something about it that I don't like... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 00:26:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Maries Snavely Subject: posssible to get cd's i have never found or even SEEN a copy of EARTH a.d. or evilive on CD.. from the misfits.. shit! i cant find it on CD anywhere!! did they produce it on CD? or is it avail on CD right now? if you got a copy i would like to buy both/either of them.. -hs ....evilive ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 17:40:41 -0700 From: Gala Subject: Bootlegs and tape trading Hey, I was wondering if anyone would trade recordings of Misfits bootlegs? I only have one at the moment, but I am getting more in a week. here is a list of stuff If you dont know this song, what the fuck are you doing here? -live 12/25/81. Blood Red vinyl, it rules. really good show, has Bullet live on it, which was really cool. Evil Never Dies * -Dont know, havent looked it up yet. Jerry and Doyle interview * -Some radio show, it is in the Misfits book, they played Return of the fly I think, the whole show is copied. The Infinity Collection -Someone gave me a recording of this, it has Danzig, Samhain, and Misfits songs on it, he said it was released on 3 7"'s, but you never know if he was lying or not. <* means I am getting it soon> Give me any info you got..... Vandal Gala@cris.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 02:56:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Varady Zoltan Subject: wolfsblood Hi, so I'm a new subscriber. I wonder if anyone has got complete (or nearly complete?) lyrics to Wolfsblood. I checked the lyrics that are on the net, but 90% of it are ??-s. :(, because I think it's the most _intense_ song of all time... cheerz, Drifter. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 95 11:22:49 -0700 From: Gala Subject: Collectors I am looking to trade recordings of Misfits bootlegs, but I only have one right now, I will be getting more that I ordered soon. Right now I have : CD's ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Walk Among Us Legacy of Brutality Earth A.D. The Misfits Bootleg's ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you dont know this song, what the fuck are you doing here? ------------------------------ From: MisfiFiend@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 18:27:46 -0400 Subject: ? I have a full size poster with a picture of a guy on it eating brains withy a spoon and a fork(I think), advertising a show with Misfits, Necros, an dSkullBusters, I imagine that it is a blown- Up show flyer. I really wouldn't consider Glenn a hero. He's a great musician, but not any hero of mine. well, that's all I've got to say for now, Bye Ryan Riggle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:55:51 GMT+1000 From: Jesus on a pogo stick Subject: misheard lyrics and other shit greetings This is my first post for the year... ho hum. Does anyone have any idea about lyrics for material for Earth AD and later, particularly Death comes Ripping? I've gone and looked at the lyrics on the web and they dont seem to fit... I'll send in a version(when I find the right disk) I've got on disk, but it's totally different theme to those mentioned on the web(it goes 'a rain of tortured head' instead of 'I wait up for the kill' as an example), but it tends to fit a lot better with the vocals (tho it seems to make no sence). BTW, someone mentioned a few bibles ago about Robo being on death row. This is the first Ive heard about the subject... anyone any the wiser on this? Just as a laugh, When I first heard the evilive version of All hell breaks loose' (Evilive was the first 'Fits album I bought)when it goes 'eyeballs pop accelerated blood beat' I thouth it said 'I'm a public servant' (?!?)) I wondered what the fuck they were on about! Several people (not here, on alt.music danzig) also mentioned that Evilive came out of a studio, that Glenn went back and played all the instuments and let the rest of the band take the credit... I couldnt find anything on the home page to that effect. Can anyone fill me in? Thats me finished for now Rick ===================================================================== I'll burn, like a Roman fucking candle burn, like a chasm in the night burn, for a miniscule duration exctatic immolation, incorrigable delight -Bad Religion ====================================================================== ------------------------------ From: MisfiFiend@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 18:42:17 -0400 Subject: Tapes and CD's OK- here's what i got. I'm gonna promote some local punk bands Angry Fishermen- For 5 bux plus shipping, you can get their new 16 song demo "Chasing paper" or their old demo "fart". You can also get a variety of t-shirts for 6 bux and printed sox for 2 bux (both plus shipping.) AF are a great punk rock band. I don't know how to describe them, because they've got their own style. they sound really great, though contact Angry Fishernen c/o Dan Walton RD 6box 416 bedford, PA 15522 Body Farm- hardcore. went to see them last night, and they sounded really good. got a really violent mosh pit goin, too 11 song tape- 4 bux ppd 1011 2nd ave Altoona, PA 16602or call Shawn @ 814-943-8812, or Scott @ 814- 949-9386 also, if you write to Shawn, he could get you hooked up witha whole shitload of other bands (5 Knuckle Shuffle, MSC, Liquid Brick, and others who all have tapes and 7" to sell) Ryan ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #87 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 1:38:27 EDT > From: ASmetek@aol.com > > Does anyone know Glenn's racial backround? I'm just curious. I recently got On the Headbanger's ball in October of '92 he says German/some other European countries, but I was always led to believe that he's Italian like the rest of the Misfits. Especially with a name like Anzelone. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:27:48 +0400 (EET-DST) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: some more... Brent, have you got my letter yet??? I'm starting to get worried... Let me know if you have.... Does anybody know what Nike a go go is about?? Umm, let's waste some more bible space with my playlist. Agnostic Front - Liberty and justice for... Terveet Cadeet - First EPs Radiopuhelimet - old singles Exploited - comp. Misfits - Legacy... Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Ioannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### -- Make a difference -- ### ### ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:20:48 +0400 (EET-DST) From: NIKOLOPOULOS@tne01.tele.nokia.fi Subject: some comments... > Ricky Hinojos wrote : > Subject: IRC and you! > > How many of ya'll have access to IRC? How about having a scheduled 'Bible > session every now and then (maybe once a month?) to discuss things in > real-time? Maybe a little interaction with other members may help spice > things up in the 'Bible. Yea, good idea! let's get this thing going!! Whenever I go in the misfits channel , it's always empty! > CTernes@aol.com wrote : > > Okay, about this shirt stuff....now I know I haven't been to nearly as many > as concerts as you people....but at the Slayer show there was not a single > shirt under $23, nor at the DT show, nor at the Metallica show, nor at the > Megadeth show, nor at any other show I've been to. What my point is: don't > blame Danzig for the prices....they're no worse than many other larger shows. Look, the original point was that you *can* get to shows for much less money and pay much less for merchandise. BUT, I was not talking about Danzig shows or Metallica shows....:) . > EVB wrote : > Subject: RE: Taking evil seriously > > getting a buddy to draw something for free and while some of that artwork > might be good quality I'd be real surprized if it's on a level with the > likes of Simon Bisley, Michael Kaluta, Tim Vigil, Basil Gogos etc. And what might your criteria be Elizabeth? I mean, apart from your own judgement (taste in this case) or your personal knowledge or studying of "art", how can you say that "I'd be real surprised if it's on the same level...". I'll tell you : You pay more money so it has to be better, right? NO, wrong! I believe that this is not the case with you. I think you just go by your personal taste. Well, if that's the case, I do not think you can judge (and put down) others artwork, so easily... Yannis ________/________/________/________/________/________/________/________/______ --------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/--------/------ ### ### ### ### ### ### Yannis Nikolopoulos Ioannis.Nikolopoulos@ntc.nokia.com ### ### ### ### -- Make a difference -- ### ### ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:38:14 -0400 From: EVB Subject: RE: bible #87 Just a few comments on the last bible: Lord Valgamon - YES, you hit the nail right on the head as to why the Misfits were so great! I couldn't have put it better! EvilDon - How to find "Chamber of Chills" #19? Well, first off, good luck, it took me about 5 years of solid searching to find it. But your best bet would be to check out the ads in COMIC BUYERS GUIDE (weekly magazine similar to GOLDMINE also published by Krause Publications) which is where I found mine. (It was actually the 3rd copy I saw listed for sale in that time period, but the other two were sold by the time I got my copy & called about them) It's not spectacularly rare or valuable (unlike the old EC horror comics it was imitating from that time period) , just bloody obscure. The Overstreet Guide lists it at $65 for Near Mint, $30 for Fine or $10 for Good. (I paid $18 for a VG copy) Just make sure you specify that it's the _Harvey_ COC series you need from the 1950's since Marvel also put out a title called that in the sixties or seventies. I do know one comic dealer who probably still has the one he tried to sell me a few years ago but he wanted $200 for it! Why so much? Because unlike anybody else he knew why I wanted it...... it turned out Glenn used to work for him back when he lived in NJ so he told me a buncha stories about that - like how Glenn used to always draw on the comic book boxes "bats and skulls and bones and dead things" (and no, he didn't have any of the boxes left or I prolly would have tried to buy them!). He told me that one year at the big Creation Con in NYC he had Glenn, Eerie, Pushead & all of Metallica (back when Cliff was in the band) working his booth at the con! (He also had some funny stories to tell about Kirk Hammett the comic book junkie who'd call from the road at all hours of the night & want to buy rare golden age stuff & have it Fed Ex'd to wherever he was. Ya know, it costs a helluva lot to ship a comic book overnight to Poland!) But anyway, if price is no object, try Phil Levine! -EVB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:30:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: more evil, and hopefully the end And by that I mean that i hope my points are finally clearly communicated. Please feel free to respond. > Ya know, it's rare that I find a Bible post I feel I have to dissect line > by line, but I felt in this case I had to. Call it point-counterpoint. And we're off! > Sure the Misfits were a "bunch of kids writing songs about horror movies." > Maybe you'd rather they were still kids writing these songs (I'd bet a > couple of them do too) Well... now you're getting into that "should the Misfits reform" topic (wel, kind of). I'm happy they're doing whatever they want to do. I love the old Misfits, and haven't heard the 'new' Misfits, but I am happy with what they (the 'old' Misfits) put out. God knows I'll be trying for a while to get my hands on all of it, so every time I get a single I've never heard it's like a 'new' record, if that makes any sense. Nevermind, I don't want to get into this topic, I'd rather talk about EVIL! :) > but it's natural to get more serious about things as you get older, y'know? Yep. But were the Misfits about evil? I don't think so, I think they were about horror movies, if anything. So shouldn't Glenn be an extremely serious horror movie buff by now? I don't see Danzig as the natural progression from the Misfits (or even Samhain, I don't see the continuity between the Descent recordings and Danzig I. If Danzig 4p came after Descent, well, maybe (musically that is)) I see a subject change, from discussing horror movies to discussing theological evil. > Maybe what you are trying to say is that the Misfits and their era are just > more old-fashioned non-serious FUN than Danzig, and I can't dispute that. Neither can I. Something about those old songs... terrible recordings, little 'talent' (a debatable term) but for some reason they make me feel so damn good... (As for talent, I think it's a great talent to be able to make terrible recordings of 3 or 4 chords have that magic). > Given the choice between a low budget horror movie or a debate on the > nature of evil, most folks would order the popcorn. ahh.... probably. But that doesn't mean I would. My step mother is an Episcopalian priest (whoa, look out!) and i've had many a debate with her (and if I do say so myself, I tend to win). Boy, you should have heard what came down when she saw the skateboard I had painted for a friend. I put the Danzig cross (of Danzig II) on it (and it turned out quite nicely considering it was spray paint and my own stencils). woo boy! > Who says these two concepts have to be mutually exclusive? I like music (as > well as movies, books, comics) that make me THINK. Sheesh, there's enough > brainless, inane rock n roll out there if that's what you'd prefer. Glenn's > an intelligent, well read guy and this is a topic he's always been > interested in; I think he's just widened and deepened his interest over the > years, from simple horror violence to the basis of violence. I don't > (personally) think it's outside the bounds of rock to discuss theology, or > anything, on a fairly serious level. Fair enough. I agree with each thing you said there (except I do have a passion for stuff that out and out rocks in the old fashioned sense. But anything that numbs you're brain (AOR type stuff) I definately don't like) >> Glenn is from the New Jersey suburbs and the only "evil" thing to ever >> come out of that state is the stench it is famous for. > Are some states more "evil" than others? I've noticed more serial killers > come out of California and Florida than other states but I didn't know they > were ranked by "evilness". Sorry, tried to make a joke. The Wings were against the Devils for the Cup (next year...) (yep, I'm a Detroit boy) and my dad has some good stories from when he was stationed there during Vietnam. Florida is evil cos it has scary death metal (just kidding...). >> Now, I don't think he takes the entire evuil trip completely sriously >> himself. > I believe he takes the concept of evil seriously; it's certainly a serious > subject. nope nope nope, miscommunication. I meant I don't think he considers himself to really be the devil or something like that. I'm agree that he does seem to take the subject of evil seriously, though. > However he is not what I would describe as an "evil" person or >trying to posture as one by encouraging willfully malicious acts. Fair enough (except for the occasional story of him attacking someone in the crowd, but whatever, I don't want to get into that). But it seems to me like the interviewers want to make him seem like a "evil, scary" person. But that is not a reflection on the man, only on the interviews (which I was commenting on when this all started!) > If > anything the overwhelming message of many of his songs is one of thinking > for yourself and taking responsibility for your own actions. That's hardly > what I would describe as "evil". Right on. I do see him saying that in interviews (when the interviewer will let him) but I honestly don't see that in any of the songs. > Is that his fault that the interviewers are poor writers? I understand he > does try and screen out the more incompetant writers and rags but it's > quite impossible to get control over the press, Agreed. > and some of those so-called > "interviews" that come out are written around official press releases > BECAUSE he wouldn't speak with the magazines in question! Two points: 1) press releases are a way of 'controlling' (or at least informing) the media. 2) If he doesn't want cheesy articles based on them, the press releases shouldn't be cheesy in the first place! > If you've read the press releases you'd realize these they are easy to spot. Ok, first, for the sake of a mature discussion, I'll assume that wasn't a "well, I read the releases and you didn't! Bleaah!" And second, I agree. No, I haven't seen the releases, but I have seen that done to other bands. Don't you hate when it seems like every interview with a band is that same one, just reprinted (which is part of the reason I don't want to read Danzig interviews! I enjoy an intelligent, well written interview with him, but I hate the same old "Metal Schlock" garbage). > As for the "cheesy" tone of the interviews I'd say the interviewers who's > looking for shock value is more to blame than Glenn is. Bull's eye. Once again, my comments are no reflection on him, but on the interviews themselves. To be continued, I gotta go work on some air conditioners... Dempz ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Left Hands "Green Eggs and Pentagrams" who wrote misfits music any and all Rollins and others Jerry pic Kryst For Sale Danzig- needs to tour this summer in U.S Fear #5 / I Turned Into A Martian Steve Zing??? left hands 1988 interview with Glenn Fanzine laugh (evil) the 3 sided t shirt mystery RE: Bible #88 + a fiction review ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:16:50 -0700 From: Ricky Hinojos Subject: Shtuph From: STONE99312@aol.com Subject: THE REAL DEAL AS FAR AS THE SINGER ISSUE HERE IS ANOTHER CLUE "THIS SONGS FOR YOU ,IT IS A LOVE SONG" HE IS THE FIRST CHOICE IF IT CAN BE WORKED OUT. COME ON PEOPLE, WHAT IS HIS NAME? -- I heard Vince Neil wasn't doing anything these days... :P Hmm. I've heard that line before... ----- From: ols@home.interaccess.com Subject: IRC, Lovers lane, Samhain covers A question: What's with left hands? There Samhain's "Lords of the Left Hand" and Danzig's "Left Hand Black". I heard it used to be an evil thing to be left handed... is that true? -- In the Bible (the King James version =), there's something about how Lucifer stood on God's left side; he was His Left Hand man. Or something like that. The word "sinister" has its roots with left-handedness. In Catholic school, they used to rap you on the knuckles if you used your left-hand, back in the days when corporal punishment was allowed. So, yes, it is true that left-handedness is associated with evil. I'm sure someone else will have better examples. ----- IRC: Well, since I'm working full-time for the summer, I'll be on IRC during my lunch time, say 11am to 1pm PST, approximately. I may be on longer. ;) I've seen a grand total of two people asking about a file type (?) and (I forgot his nick) that invited me to #ska to discuss the misfits. Vagamon? Something along those lines... Lollipop Ryq Second (hopefully better) EP in progress... ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:41:28 -0400 Subject: Re: #1(2) Misfits Bible, #88 Black Aria and the Ramones Just to inform... The sequel to Black Aria is almost completed according to Glenn and will be released in the fall. But looking at how his releases, both comic and music have gone recently it will probably be late. And as far as the Ramones breaking up, it is a legitimate rumour. I got the chance to talk with Mark and he was telling me that they are getting really frustrated by the fact that while they have been playing the same stuff that suddenly got popular they still get shit on by the fans. The bands that have found sudden fame with that "old hardcore or punk style" still show some respect to them but most of these new "alternative fans" wouldn't know a Pinhead if they tripped over one. Sad thing though since the Ramones have always been cool and solid. ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 13:52:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: discography stuff The 3-d picnic album in the discography is called "new wave party" Jawbreaker covered skulls on a B-side or demo as part of a U2,Misfits,Vapors, medly. How about sticking louisville babylon in the discography? To stone, Dave from the Damned as a possible singer? strange. jamil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 05:50:25 -0700 (PDT) From: rami wallenius Subject: misfits bible Hi If someone is interested, I have like 20 Misfits bootleg 7"s and couple of 12"s for sale. Send me a note and I send you list of records. e-mail: kilrec@on-line.midnight.fi ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:20:59 -0400 Subject: ha,ha! ols: sorry but i don't believe jerry wrote any of the misfits music other wise he would've writen some over the past 13 years. warren: exactly right! jake starr: i'd like a copy of cough/cool. nikolopoulos: nike is actually a missle of some sort. oh, yeah i forgot jerry did do the kryst the conquerer thing, yeah, "god is great... let's piss off glenn." once again, jerry is or was, a great bassist and franche,bobby,and doyle are great guitarists, manny, mr. jim, joey image, the goog, and robo are all great drummers too, but glenn still wrote it all. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:54:48 EDT From: RDYR69C@prodigy.com (GLENN H DANZIG) Subject: Left Hands In the Misfits Bible 88, ols@home.interaccess.com wrote: >A question: What's with left hands? There Samhain's >"Lords of the Left Hand" and Danzig's "Left Hand Black". >I heard it used to be an evil thing to be left handed... is >that true? Maybe you've heard of terms like "on the right hand of god?" Generally, followers of the Judeo-Xtian belief are said to be followers of the Right Hand Path. Satanists (maybe some other religious groups, I'm not sure.) represent just the opposite. In the song "Lords of the Left Hand," he is referring to a five point plan set up by the satanic church which they believe would make everyone's life just a little more enjoyable (as the basis of Satanism is controlled selfishness and indulgence, i.e. FUN). If not the plan, then just an uprising in general of followers of the Left Hand Path. I'm not sure what the hell Left Hand Black is about, but I like the riffs. Glenn obviously wants to be recognized as the dark side. I don't care what he really is, as long as he keeps cranking out these songs that I can toss the lyrics at people I don't like. Oh, wait, I just read the Left Hand Black lyrics. THAT'S about Left Hand supremacy, too! -Psycho 78 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 19:58:19 -0400 From: "by way of sistinas@planetcom.com (EVB)" Subject: "Green Eggs and Pentagrams" OK, this post is NOT Misfits related, so please skip it if you don't want to read anything else or if you are offended by intentionally "cheesy evil" but I thought a bunch of you would really enjoy it as I think it's got a lot of the same appeal as the early 'fits - catchy yet morbid, and left me ROTFL. It's a little Dr. Seuss spoof by my room mate who's been reading way too many true crime books lately! -EVB "Green Eggs and Pentagrams" My name is Sam, a dog named Sam, A demon made me what I am, and you could be the Son of Sam, and share green eggs and pentagrams. Hello, I'm Sam! I'm Sam, I am! Come have green eggs and pentagrams! Go away! I smell a scam! I do not like you, Sam-I-Am, My name is not the Son of Sam, I hate green eggs and pentagrams. Try them, try them! You will see. Oh, how different you will be! I do not like this dog called Sam, I hate green eggs and pentagrams. I do not want them, not at all. Now let me watch "Headbangers' Ball". But would you try them in L.A., carving Sharon Tate filet? Or try them on the first of May with Ashtoreth and Baphomet? I would not try them in L.A. I would not on the first of May. My name is not the Son of Sam, I hate green eggs and pentagrams. Try them, do! I wish you would, it's more fun to be bad than good! In an old Wisconsin home, from a bowl made out of bone? Near the chocolate factory, right upstairs in two-one-three? I would not try them here or there, would not try them anywhere. I do not like you, Sam-I-Am, I hate green eggs and pentagrams. But you would like them on a boat, with a priestess and a goat! Maybe in a postal line, ducking while the bullets whine? Maybe on a spotlight stage, screaming in insensate rage? Your life is dull, your life is plain, Green eggs would help you use your brain... but since you don't like Sam-I-Am, just eat one egg and I will scram. I would not love them on a boat, or kiss the priestess or the goat, I would not in a postal queue, I'd like to hear no more from you, So if you'll truly go away then I will do just as you say... --I say! I see things in a whole new way! I like green eggs and pentagrams! I want to be the Son of Sam! I'll eat this egg or two or three and then go on a shooting spree (and maybe I will keep their heads or nibble on them once they're dead or make them into deviled ham...) I will! And thank you, Sam-I-Am! Our names are Sam and Son of Sam, a demon taught us how to jam, we're going to do just as we please --we think we'll start at Mickey D's.. ==angelynx== from an idea by ++ginger zodiac++ and **tammy faye dahmer** (with apologies to theodore geisel...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:05:33 -0400 From: "Warren A. Propst" Subject: who wrote misfits music ols@home.interaccess.com: Possibly you were misinformed on the subject somewhere along the line, but I do believe Don was right, Glen did write the tunes. Most likely, a great deal of influence was put in by Jerry, as well as Doyle and the band's other various members, but Danzig is credited with writing them. This is one big reason for the apprehension about the Misfits reforming. Vlad Tempes -- "Kadath in the cold wastes hath known them, and what man knows Kadath?" -the Necronomicon- bk902@freenet.buffalo.edu; part@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:39:49 -0400 From: "Warren A. Propst" Subject: any and all Just a few other comments on last issue: Stone--is this guy for real? Samhain666: Try Danny Elfman (of Oingo Boingo, no less) for the dark sound- ing orchestral music. It's not quite as sinister as BA, but it's good. Try the soundtracks to Batman and Darkman. (Weird thing, he also did the music for the Simpsons) Drifter: Welcome aboard. Were the lyrics you found the ones on the web page? I thought they were pretty good, at least where I could easily make them out. Dempz: Well, perhaps after all the replies and evrything, your original message got jumbled and probably misinterpreted. You maintain that you were in fact knocking the interview(er)s and not Glen himself, and that's good. Thanks for posting that and hopefully ending this thread. Nothing wrong with debating evil as it relates to Danzig, but we haven't been doing that, just beating down Dempz's comments. Don "Evil": Just curious, what exactly is the difference between Satanism and devil-worship? And true, Deicide is satanic, though I haven't heard of any other band that truly is. Spewing forth nonsense, the friendly space filler Vlad Tempes -- "Kadath in the cold wastes hath known them, and what man knows Kadath?" -the Necronomicon- bk902@freenet.buffalo.edu; part@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 19:09:57 -0500 (CDT) From: scott cummings Subject: Rollins and others Haven't posted in awhile so here is my little ditty-- In response to Jaymz 666--The rollins "get in the van" is excellent. currently available only in hard copy for like 22 bones. I know there has been a lot of rollins bashing out there in the past, but i have all his other books and they kick ass. they are like a mixture of just evil thoughts, experiences, dreams and what not about everything. I have always had some really messed up thoughts in my head and never knew how to express them, and then i read this and it was perfect. That is what i love about his writing along with the misfits songs--they make me see that there are people who have the same twisted and deranged thinking that i do--the same reason many of you are here too, i assume. anyway, a few of the books are called: one from none, see a grown man cry, high adventures in the great outdoors, black coffee blues. all available in paperback for about 10 bucks. Anyway, enough of that. Warren-- About the Ramones, i heard last week in an interview that they are going to see how successful this newest album is. if it goes well they will write again, and if not, they will break up. i guess they feel maybe their mainstream boat is coming in with the type of music that is popular now. Andrew Dempz-- I agreed with a lot of what you said, but not so much about other stuff. you said you dont think the misfits were about evil but b-movie horror flicks. i think you have to find a happy medium there--you cant take one extreme or the other. i mean look at the lyrics in bullet ("president's bullet ridden body in the street") or mommy or die die... ("your future is in an oblong box"). i am not very knowledgeable on the whole horror scene, but i always thought these were just down home hate inspired evil lyrics. and no, i am not flaming you. about glenn being evil, too. i dont think he is just portrayed as evil, he tries to give off the impression, at least i think he used to. take the interview parts in the danzig 1 video. there are a few different times when he just rambles on about beating up people and shit. like the part where he is lacing the black leather gloves and says he wants to get one cast out of metal or something so he could just watch a person's jaw crack when he hits them. whatever he is doing there, he comes off as just a violent person who *does* partake in "random acts of violence". dont get me wrong-- i am very pro-glenn for the most part. his mystical nature is one of the biggest reasons i dig all the shit he has ever done. if he is violent, so be it. his stuff gives me a powerful feeling inside and that is all that is important to me. he is kind of an enigma. i hope you didn't take this as a slam, because it is not meant to be. Also, if any of the info is wrong, *please* correct me cuz i'd hate to be spreading wrong info. btw, is it me or is the bible getting a little hostile? i mean some of the slams are a little uncalled for. if you dont agree with someone, just give your view and be done with it. please don't turn this into a typical usenet newsgroup... sorry it was so long, but i was making up for lost time as i have been south of the border for about 6 weeks. I'll be seein' you...in hell hatebreeder ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Jerry pic The back cover of SCREEM magazine #6 has a nice shot of jerry plugging the mag. Look for it in a good newstand near the movie/sci-fi section. Can anyone tell me what his headstocks are made of (wood?metal?) and how they are attached? On a side note, Ive ended up with about 10 manniquins in ok condition,but many missing hands from a dept. store that closed. I borrowed some stuff from my girlfriend, dida little shopping at a costume shop...and i now have a neat-o Vampira manniquin at the top of my stairs. jamil ------------------------------ From: Cyberpig2@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:48:45 -0400 Subject: Kryst For Sale If anyone else wants the KTC CD I'm clearin' em' out for $20 shipping included. I'm also clearing out some other various Danzig (Glenn) stuff. Danzig-Stalker Song Samhain-Diablos '88 Misfits-Braineaters ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:05:19 EDT From: MR MAURICIO NUNEZ Subject: Danzig- needs to tour this summer in U.S This is my first entry to the BIBLE. I'm glad to hear that there is a "I Don't Mind the Pain" CD single. I felt that the live tracks ripped! I listen to "Twist of Cain" and "Dirty Black Summer" (from Can't Speak single) all the time! It does sound like stuff from the studio recorded live and I think it's great!!! Yesterday (June 27) I was driving back home Hollywood and a saw the drummer for Danzig (Joey CD.). When I got home I called the Danzig hot line 213-489-6164 and sure enough it was a new message. Danzig are back from Europe and S. America. I'm really pissed that Glenn isn't touring the U.S. in the summer! The most memorable Danzig shows (for me at least) were the ones from the summer. Last time I remember them doing a summer tour was for Trall-Demonsweatlive. Also what do you guys think of Glenn's latest outfits?? I hate them. He should start lifting weights again and go on stage shirtless and put the belt buckle back on. He has more of a stage presence just like on the Mother 93 video. Why doesn't Danzig do some killer outdoor shed shows this summer. I wish they would do Lalapoluza, but oh well Glenn. Wanted to say "Hi" to EVB (it's me MN from calif) ------------------------------ From: "Beaulac, Jody (Temp)" Subject: Fear #5 / I Turned Into A Martian Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 18:32:00 PDT Just a little Misfits background information - The comic book Fear #5 (Marvel Comics, early 70's or so) has a story in it called "I Turned Into A Martian" It's also on the cover. ------------------------------ From: Samhain666@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 17:31:32 -0400 Subject: Steve Zing??? What's Steve Zing up to? Anybody know? Why did he leave Samhain? Was it on good terms? Does he have any solo stuff out besides the Runaway 7"? -Carey ------------------------------ From: MisfiFiend@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:24:35 -0400 Subject: left hands The left hand is generally representing the evil side of the person. In palmistry, the left hand is the gateway to the spirit, and is the hand you read to tell a person's future. the right hand tells you about the person now, andf how they are "modifying" the traits of the left hand (yes, I read palms a little, but I'm not really good. It takes a lot of studying, and a lot of memorization. If you know someone who reads palms already, and you are interested, ask them to help you out. I think that it would be a lot easier to learn with a teacher.) "If the right hand knew what the left hand was doing, it would cut it off." Stephen King ------------------------------ From: HororHotel@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 18:54:50 -0400 Subject: 1988 interview with Glenn Here's an article from an industry newsletter I got during my brief job in college radio. It's from around the time of the release of the first Danzig album, and he talks a bit about the Misftis, Samhain, and Less Than Zero. Does anyone think it's kind of wierd how Glenn wrote this song told from the point of view of a person who is dead, then about a year after Roy recorded it, he died? I always found that song kind of creepy because of that. And for the Danzig bashers out there who don't like to read any post-Misfits interviews, I suggest you scroll on past this. There are many people on this list who do want to read this kind of stuff. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >From Concrete Foundations; December 10, 1988 DANZIG: Def New Music by Maria Ma With the release of their self titled debut album DANZIG are establishing themselves as the bridge between hard rock/metal and punk. Not only a debut for the band but also for producer Rick Rubin's new label Def American distributed through Geffen Records. Singer Glen Danzig is well known as the leader of the MISFITS and SAMHAIN -two seminal bands that paved the way for many of today's metal outfits with such classics as Beware, Three Hits From Hell, Walk Among Us, and Initium-as well contributing to the Less Than Zero soundtrack. Upon SAMHAlN's demise in 1986, Glen and bassist Eerie Von formed DANZIG with veteran drummer extraordinaire Chuck Biscuits and guitarist John Christ. Recently we spoke to Glen about his views on religion, the metal scene, record labels and ROY ORBISON... CF: How did you arrive at the present line-up? GD: The old band, SAMHAIN, was playing at the New Music Seminar and were scouting labels. We wanted to go to a major label after our third record, and Rick Rubin was there. Basically, he came in after our set and said "I want to sign you, you guys are great!" So what happened was, we weren't happy with our guitar player and I was doing most of the guitar tracks in the studio, which was stupid 'cause he was the guitar player and he should've been doing it. Rick said, "You guys need a new guitar player" and I was like, "Tell me about it!" So we decided to go with Def American because that seemed the best thing to do. CF: But you didn't have Chuck Biscuits with you at this time, did you? GD: No, we had a different drummer. What happened was, we were having try-outs for a guitarist and all along, I had wanted another drummer but Rick thought we could make do with the drummer we had. That wasn't the case, so Rick asked me who my first pick drummer would be and I said "Chuck Biscuits," who I knew from other bands like BLACK FLAG, CIRCLE JERKS, D.O.A., and who's an incredible drummer. CF: So SAMHAIN basically broke up because of the Def American deal? GD. Right. Eventually with two new members, it just became a whole new band. It wasn't the same band anymore, and the music was different. CF: So is being on Geffen working out for you? GD: So far, yeah. We'll see what happens, it's pretty early. It's too early to say anything, but I've met a lot of the people there, and they were generally interested in helping the band, which is good. It's strange that the bio they put out said SAMHAIN broke up in 1981, cause the MISFITS didn't break up until 1983 and SAMHAIN didn't split until 1986. That's really weird, but there are a few people who know our past history. CF: In a lot of ways, the MISFITS and SAMHAIN were the forerunners of the present-day metal scene. What do you think of the scene these days? GD: It's stagnant, it's incestuous. (laughs) It sucks. SLAYER, you know, I never thought were incredibe or anything until the last record when they changed direction and got into the slower, heavier riffs. The riffs were more evil, they had more to say than "We're just another fast speedmetal band." They've proven that there's more to them than that, you know, "we're not gonna just do what our fans want us to do, we're gonna flex our wings." And they did that with the new record, and I think that's brave cause it's kinda easy to go along with what the fans want. There are a lot of good riffs on that record and I think they should be commended. Not many bands would do that, they're just content to ride the tide. CF: Do you think black metal in particular owes a debt to hardcore? GD: Oh sure. I always thought punk and hardcore had a lot to do with real metal. Now, I'm not talking about stupid, soft metal like BON JOVI, I'm talking about BLUE CHEER, MOTORHEAD, stuff like that. Real metal, early BLACK SABBATH, you know. Not like JUDAS PRIEST or DEF LEPPARD or any of that soft crap. And I was always into real metal; the first band I was ever in was half originals, half BLACK SABBATH covers. CF: What band was that? GD: That was a band called TALUS. There's a band called that now. Basically, I always saw the connection between hardcore and metal although a lot of people didn't until later. The MISFITS, of course, were a horrot metal band, or a horror punk metal band, or whatever. As far as hardcore, we were the first band to experiment with speedmetal, not just the hardcore form. I would say the MISFITS probably pioneered that, and we got a lot of flak for that too. People were like, "Why are you mixing punk with metal?" or this and that, and I never saw when the two weren't connected. To me, they were always connected. They were both about power, rebellion, violence. Same with SAMHAIN, and with me and Eerie- we wanted to fuse punk with metal and just come out with something very heavy, so heavy that people would either hate it or love it. And then with the "Novembr Coming Fire" record, we wanted to get a little more into songwriting. CF: Do you think METALLICA's covets of "Last Caress" and "Green Hell" have helped you guys out in any way? GD I don't know if it's helped the band much. It's hard to say. I mean, has their cover of "Am I Evil" helped DIAMOND HEAD? I'm sure them wearing our t shirts has helpd raise more consciousness than the cover of the song. It's hard to say, I really don't know. (laughs) I don't really live outside of my own world, you know? I don't go to big metal concerts or anything, sol can't say. I guess maybe in a way, it has helped us out. CF: How influential was Rick Rubin as far as the arranging and overall sound of the songs on the new record? GD: Pretty influential. I'd say about 25% of the album is Rick Rubin. I wanted a producer, I wanted that other voice. Originally when we signed, we wanted to see if we could work together, if he was open to my suggestions, and if I could listen to what he was saying about stuff other than songwriting, like how the band was handled, cover art, the whole direction of the band. And it just turned out that we had a lot in common, that we were on the same wavelength, and it was really good. I'm glad we signed with him. CF: So was it through him that you got involved with the Less Than Zero soundtrack? GD: Yeah. This guy asked me who I listened to, and I said "Roy Orbison." ROY ORBISON is real dramatic stuff. I remember saying how he's got one more serious gold, maybe platinum, album left in him; he's just waiting for the right producer. And this guy called me up one day and said, "I've got this soundtrack and I'm going to use ROY ORBISON. Do you want to write a song for him?" cause he had writer's block or something. So I said "YEAH! I'll do it!" I wrote the song especially for him. Me and Rick did a demo in the studio, sent it out to him, he loved it, I went ovet there and taught it to him, and we worked on it in the studio. It turned out really good even though it was really rushed; we could've added more tracks to it. When I listened to the "Less Than Zero" stuff, I only listened to like four songs: PUBLIC ENEMY, ROY ORBISON, my song, somebody else's. I was very apprehensive about doing the song that I did because it was originally written for a girl to sing. And when we played the demo for the people at CBS they went, "Oh, get this guy to sing it." And I was like, "Well, I don't know, I don't usually sing this kind of stuff, although I love this kind of music." Like the RIGHTEOUS BROTHERS and stuff; I wanted them to get BILL MEDLEY and they were like, "Oh, that guy's over, he's probably a loser somewhere" but in actuality, he's a behind-the-scenes guy who produces records and stuff. Three weeks after "Less Than Zero" came out, BILL MEDLEY had the #I song in the country (laughs). But yeah, BILL MEDLEY's one of my favorite singers. CF: The images in your songs are pretty much in the horror / gore category. GD: Well...l don't know about that. They're more on the religious side. CF: Well, it's not like STRYPER. GD: Wait a minute, let's get something straight. STRYPER are religious only in the sense that...l mean, they're just trying to put one over. I don't believe STRYPER are sincere in the least, I think they're one of the phoniest bands in the world. The fact that they put a "777" banner onstage sometimes during their shows just ptoves they don't know what they're talking about. If they knew the meaning of "777," they wouldn't put that up because it's not anything nice. CF: So what does "777" mean? GD: Armageddon!! (laughs) You know, like "666," well, they put "777." They don't know what they're talking about, they're just jumping on the religious bandwagon, like they're "metal for Christ." But they're just trying to get one over, and I hate bands like that. And they're a hairspray band too. CF: Do you want to talk about the images in your songs7 GD: Sure. Especially since SAMHAIN came into being, they're very religious. They focus on religions that, while practiced today, were practiced before even Christianity and Judaism. They're the original religions. You know, if Hitler had conquered the world, we'd both be talking with German accents right now, and Nazism would be the religion right now, and everything else, Christianity and Judaism and whatever, would have become the non-religions. Because something's knocked down, or forgotten, doesn't mean it's not valid. I mean, SAMHAIN is the original name for the pagan Halloween. It's actually Celtic, which the Christians wanted wiped out because it had too much power and it went against what the Christians wanted to bring in. I have these books, like "The Forgotten Books Of Eden," which were excised from the Bible, and just yesterday I picked up another book which has the lost books of the Bible. It's got all these sayings and prophesies by Jesus that the Christians took out because they thought it didn't fit into the direction they wanted the Bible to take. The Bible is actually Abridged Jesus. CF: A lot of people are going to misinterpret this, of course. Maybe record chains... GD I really don't give two fucks (laughs). I mean, I love selling records, but I want to do what I want to do. Record chains are great, and they move a lot of records, but it's not my full concern. It might be Geffen's or your full concern, but...I mean, there's no swearing on the record or anything. If they want to keep me from my right to freedom of speech, then I'll just have to get a militia together and KILL THEM!! (mucho laughs) I mean, I'm not fucking with them, they shouldn't fuck with me. Actually, I shouldn't get down on the Christian religion. There are people who are trying to get the excised chapters back into the Bible. Martin Scorcese's come into a lot of scrutiny lately because of his interpretation of Jesus Christ. If anybody should know about Jesus Christ's life or whatever, he should, because he went to seminary school. How many people on the street can say they went to seminary school? That's his argument now, like "Well, who are you? I went to seminary school! I studied these chapters!" You know? That's what I'm getting at, there are all these people who don't know what they're talking about. I learned a long time ago that you shouldn't talk unless you know what you were saying. You go and do some research, you learn something, great. If not...(laughs) CF: Are you Christian? By that I mean by denomination... GD: That's not Christian (laughs) I don't really know what I am. But I know one thing, I am religious, not in the 700 Club sense though. I really hate that. People should just...I don't care what people do, they should do what the fuck they want. They should just use common sense. Because you know what's right or wrong, there's universal good and bad for everybody. There are things you should just not do to other people. Of course, you have personal choice, but you shouldn't transgress against certain rules. Not rules so much as freedoms for every person. There are universal good and bads. Everyone-deep down, mentally, psychologically-knows what's good and bad, and when they go against that, they know it. You don't need God or anybody else to tell you, you know. CF: Like a built-in sense of right and wrong. GD: Exacty. You know. Like when you feel bad after you've done something wrong... that's what I'm trying to say. CF: Do you think violent Iyrics incite violence? GD No. I think that the music itself is either violent or not violent, and we particularly play violent music. But there are other bands who don't play violent music and they still get violence at their shows. I don't know what exactly causes violence at shows but I think there is an element that just goes to shows to look for trouble. It's the whole social climate of the times. You can go to a hockey game and see a million fights so it's not really just music. The big arena over here in Jersey, which is Brendan Byrne, is thinking of banning hockey games. They've said that metal shows are no problem, they've only had like two incidents of violence at the last metal show, but at the last hockey game they had sixteen outbreaks of serious violence where they've had to call security in to break up flghts. At wrestling matches out on Long Island, I've seen several different fights that had to be broken up at one time. That's what they look at, not the music; a full house is a full house. It doesn't matter what's being done on stage, whay they care about is what goes on in the seats. As far as they're concerned, hockey and football are more violent than rock concerts. Of course, you also have the rap shows on Long Island where people actually get aced. You know, that's fucked. CF: You have a video out of Mother. What's that like? GD: Wild. MTV has approved it, the two program directors love it. We're waiting for their Board Of Censors And Standards to approve it or whatever. We have one censored version that I already did and that's the only one they're gonna get. If they don't take it, they can go fuck themselves. CF: What did you have to censor? GD: Basically there's a girl and I rip a chicken over her (more laughs) but you don't actually see any of it, it just cuts to the blood shooting on her stomach. I mean, you don't see me ripping a chicken apart, I didn't actually do that. We had a chicken handler there and I like animals a lot. What happened is the blood on the stomach starts spreading and I do an upside-down cross on the girl's belly in blood. I don't know what's going to happen. We did an extra version where the blood only shoots down for about a quarter of a second, just enough to kinda see it. And then we shoot to something else. So I mean, it's the only one I'm doing, if they don't show it, I don't care. They show stuff like the Nightmare On Elm Street 4 thing where the dog comes over and pisses on Freddie's bones. If they're going to give me shit about this, which was done in black and white, well, I don't want to hear it. I mean, they show the muscles and blood and skin and tissues forming back on Freddie's bones. If they give us a hard time I'm just going to be like "What do you mean?!" Cause when a record does start selling, they'll play the video like it's the greatest thing in the world. I think that's where MTV's at, I'm not sure. I didn't see the GUNS N' ROSES video in heavy rotation till they started selling big numbers. It had been relegated to Headbanger's Ball. The whole idea for us, especially with me and Rick, was to create a record that, twenty years down the line, would still be played. Like a real classic album that stood the test of time. And we did it, or I hope we did it. CF: What are Danzig's plans for the future? Are you going to tour some more? GD: After we come back with METALLICA, we're going on a tour of our own. After that, we'll see what happens, maybe some dates with other bands, big arena shows. It all depends on sales of the record, as you said before, money talks. ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 22:17:52 -0400 Subject: Fanzine laugh Hey all, This is a Misfits article from a very crappy zine called "F.L.A. DECAY" which comes out of Florida. It is poory done, but it's the Misfits. I received it from a fiend not on the 'net (if you see this, thanks Jeff) who was nice enough to photocopy the two articles. I am going to 3x check my spelling to make sure any error in typing is a direct quote from the article. Example on it's quality--Everytime Jerry and Doyle are mentioned there is "_________" with the name written in, and the obvious spelling error. "MISFITS Tuesday, October 19th--Finder's Lounge (This was supposed to be a formal interview, but due to circumstances beyond my control, it turned into a brief post-show chat. So this will be more of a review than an interview...Oh, Well!) At first glance, one might think that The Misfits would be classified under that old-age expression, "Four guys you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley." Actually, they are all very nice fellows (now you're getting it first-hand, remember). Glen Danzing, the vocalist, was most friendly and cooperative in the "chat" we had. Glen's a very accomplished musician. "I can play everything!" he says with a nonchalant tinge of pride, claiming responsibility for ALL the songs. For those of you who couldn't make out the words (that being all of you), they are all about ugly monsters and mad scientists and vampires and homicidal maniacs. They have a strict "no politics" attitude. "If you want politics--go talk to the governor or someone," says Danzing. Where did the "image" come from? one might ask--and I did. "It just happened," he said. "Jerry Only and I met in New York about 4-5 years ago and we found we had the same interests, not only in music but in all the lore that goes along with our show. We then started the band and it just stuck." I can see that. The Misfits have a single out called "Beware" and my sources tell me that it's excellent. Also, their latest album "Walk Among Us," deserves a listen. And now for anyone who missed the show (shame on you), I shouldn't even tell you about it just on principal (you've probably heard about it already--Chris, it seems like it was a year ago), but I will anyway, because I guess it's my duty.....HA! Their power was overwhelming--or should I say their volume. "Room's too small," says Danzing, "We've got four more cabs in the truck (speaker cabinets)." The visuals were mesmerizing. Danzing literally stretching his vocal cords for every word, down on his knees most of the time, singing every word at the audience, trying to involve them as much as possible. Doyle, a tall muscular, primitive-looking creature, hunched over his guitar like a wounded little animal, rarely letting a split second of silence creep out of his amp (before, after and during songs). Robo, recently recruited from Black Flag (as I'm sure you already know), pounded out precise meter--despite the fuck-ups from not quite knowing the songs yet. All the time sustaining the most intense, almost frightening look on his face. And of course, everyone's favorite, Jerry Only, on Bass. Rumor has it that he threatened anyone who attempted any more stage dives. (Probably would have just bitten off a limb or two!) One couldn't help but be reminded of a Hard Core Gene Simmons (come on now, you know who Gene Simmons is). A huge, frightening-looking person (the make-up helped) who seemed to be perpetually angry on stage. Either that or he was just trying to scare someone...I couldn't really decide, but on either count, he succeeded! The show was most entertaining from both a slammer's point of a view and a watcher's point of view. (I happen to believe that you don't have to slam to prove you're not gay!) Necros (an excellent--EXCELLENT band, according to Danzing) failed to show due to circumstances that were NOT beyond their control. It seems the combination of the two bands post-mortem fetish was just too much for them, so they decided to dig up a few skulls from a graveyard before the show....needless to say, they got caught. (Remember--this is first hand!) The Misfits had bail and the Necros didn't!" Well that was the article. There is also another page with 3 pics (one of Jerry, one of Googey, one I'm not sure of...it kinda looks like a Power Ranger to me). There are two paragraphs here too, which are as follows: "JESUS CHRIST--THESE GUYS ARE FOR REAL!!!!! All of them are obsessed with life beyond the crypt and all the good stuff. I suppose being old horror flick fanatics has something to do with it. "Bloodfeast" one of Danzing's favorite movies, is now the first of two. "Bloodfeast II" is now in the works and the soundtrack will be blessed by the writing and playing talents of--you guessed it--The Misfits. The film is coming out of California (where else) and should be ready this summer or thereabouts, so keep an eye out for it. And, of course, they will be recording again in the future. My guess is that there might be a soundtrack to the film available soon." AND: "Danzing also promised me that they will definitely visit Florida again sometime in the near future. Danzing has a "play everywhere" policy that I find rather noble. "There's fuck-all money in it, but I love it!" he says with a broad smile. Check out their records, if you haven't already, and don't miss them next time if you missed them this time." Well, I hope you people dug that. I also would like to take this oppurtunity to a shameless ad for the greatest rock and roll band of all time: The Idiot Police, featuring yours truly on vocals. Our tape's cost is 5 bucks, and you can e-mail me for details. Thanks! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:40:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: (evil) Well, there are a lot more things I could say, but I really don't give enough of a damn to take the time. Except that some of you need to lighten up, and some of you should just keep on rockin like you are. It's all about perspective, folks. GoatBoy! Earth Crisis July 11th, Detroit City Mutha Fucka!!!! Dempz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:42:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: the 3 sided t shirt mystery Are you ready? Here it is: How can a t shirt be 3 sided? They print on the sleeve! oooh! Dempz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 15:26:45 -0400 From: EVB Subject: RE: Bible #88 + a fiction review ols@home - What's with left hands? According to "A Treasury of American Superstition" by Claudia de Lys (Philopsophical Library, New York, 1968): "However, in primitive times, the left hand was the one always used for magic. The heart-side was the left side, and the ancients knew it was an area that had to be watched carefully since life depended on the heartbeat. In other words, the left side was a dangerous side, called the "sinister" side by the Romans. In nearly all languages, the words meaning left-handed are synonymous with indirections, insincereity and even treachery. Because the left side of the body was associated with sinister or evil actions, it led to many superstitious beliefs or gestures that are still present in the life and culture of people everywhere" And "Left Hand Path" is a term used to refer to following the darker side of occult studies (i.e. Black Magick) According to my roomie (who is busy writing the complete MST3K plot synopsi) she doubts that the line in "Mommy Can I go out and Kill" has anything to do specifically with the movie "the Girl in Lovers Lane" since in that film there is no focus or specifics on the murder. (I had to ask if the killer kept the toes and teeth - I wanted to know if it was a specific reference or just a general and possibly coincidental one since "lovers lane" is a pretty common term.) EevilDon - thank you for pointing out that there is a difference between Devil worshippers and Satanists, something that most peple are ignorant of. Modern day Satantists, namely the members of the Church of Satan founded by Anton Szandor LaVey, don't believe in any sort of physical entiity such as "devil" or "god" and instead their "religion" (which is actually not a religion but a personal philosophy of a particular sort of aetheism) is one that is entirely ego-centric with one's life revolving aound oneself instead of an unseen mystical force. Jody Beaulac - Where did the devilock come from? In the long (and excellent) interview with Glenn in the June 1986 issue of THRASHER conducted by Pushead there's a bit on it. Pushead asks "Where did you come up with the name devil lock?". Glenn's reply: "Somebody's mother actually came up with it. She said 'Oh, these are those guys, that, that band with the devil loocks on their heads.' We thought it was pretty funny. Actually it turns out that there was some African tribe that wore their hair like that, and they called it a devil lock." I wonder, though, if some of the inspiration might not have come from the look of many Japanese Anime characters, since later in the same interview Glenn says: "There's this character called Captain Harlock. he had a kull and crossbones shirt (EVB - identical to the one Glenn is wearing on the cover of "Walk Among Us"), a big massive scar down his face, an eyepatch, hair hanging in his face just the way I was wearing my hair at the time. I immediately identified with all these heroes." (And I'm convinced he got the sideburns from the character Akira Fudo in Devilman.....) Jason "yeah yeah yeah" - Actually I've never seen a Samhain bootleg CD. I've got a number of Misfits and danzig boot CD's, but all the Samhain boots I've ever seen were on vinyl (12" and 7" versions). Of the three bands they are the least bootlegged (probably because they were the shortest lived?) Dave at Northern Graphics - thanks VERY much for attributing that quote on rock journalism to Frank zapp. Of course! Boy do I miss him, wish he was around today to stand up to William Bennett and Bob Dole! MisiFiend - yup, that poster of the guy eating brains is a blow up of a Misfits show flyer. (The posters are bootlegs that were made many years after the fact) The artwork on it is by Mad Mark Rude, who also did the Earth AD cover. Jesus on a Pogo stick - I'd never heard that Evilive came out of a studio and that Glenn played everything on it - I DID here that about "Legacy of Brutality" though so maybe the story got confused? Nikolopoulos - OK, you ask me (in reply to my earlier post to Dempz on T shirts & artwork) "And what might your criteria be Elizabeth? I mean, apart from your own judgement (taste in this case) or your personal knowledge or studying of "art", how can you say that "I'd be real suprized if it's on the same level". First off, "taste" and "judgement" are VERY VERY different things. I can look at any piece of work objectively and judge it on its own merits or lack of merits, regardless of my own personal taste. I'm not going to say something is "crap" just because it's not something I'd personally want. I mean just because I don't particularly like Picasso I'm not going to say the man had no talent just because it isn't my cup of tea!! OK, so my personal knowledge and "studying" of art DO come into play, but in this respect I feel very secure in said knowledge. If you wanna look at credentials, I have a BFA (Bachelor of Fine Arts) degree from one of the most competitive art schools in the country (Tyler School of Art) with a minor in Art History. I run a small art studio on the side & sell limited editions of my work. I've exhibited in numerous gallery shows and once worked as art editor of a literary magazine, and I know a great many professional artists, many of whom are in the field of comic art and illustration. I think this qualifies me to judge artwork, perhaps a little more critically than most. Anyway, what I was TRYING to say (and again perhaps I am just not making myself crystal clear and from now on I should spell everything out in excrutiating detail) was that if somenbody is trying to make and sell their T shirts at very low prices (like $8) than obviously they do not have a budget to deal with and for their designs they will have to use either artwork by a band member, by somebody they know doing it as a favor to them, or by somebody who's artwork isn't very expensive or who let them use it for free or for a low fee in order to get their artwork seen and thus help establish themselves. Obviously you can't sell your shirts for $8 if you are paying somebody $5,000 or more for a design. This doesn't necessarily mean it is bad, it just means that the odds aren't exactly in their favor that they'll have something on the same level with the artists that I mentioned (Vigil, Bisley, Kaluta, Gogos) who are all internationally known artists at the peak of their form. I daresay that when they were starting out some of them might have done work for nothing for small fanzines or friends. (Artists like Frazetta and Virgil Finlay did many illustrations for science fiction fanzines back when they were starting their careers) I've also seen old band flyers that Simon Bisley designed. But they were early works that aren't as fully developed as the pieces he is doing now. Of course there are always exceptions. Some bands have very talented artists in them that design all their shirts, artwork ect - White Zombie immediately jump to mind and I think Rob Zombie is a terrific artist who's designed a great visual style unique to that band. Or there might be an up and coming artist who'll donate their services to get their work seen. For example I've got many old fanzines from 10-15 years ago with great illustrations in them by Pushead and I'm sure he never got paid for these. Of course they got seen and helped him to earn his reputation, and now he can command hefty fees for designing shirts. Certainly there are a lot of good unknown artists out there; what I meant to say is that if you find one and he/she does some work in return for getting exposure they will probably not be unknown for long and can charge more for their work in the future and will probably then be out of your budget unless they are doing it as a favor to you. (And if you don't think artists deserve to be paid, well, what I have to say on that isn't repeatable in public but I most strongly disagree) Another route is that a band member might pay out of their own pocket for the design. My friend Andy drums for a band called "My Life in Rain" and after they spent their album advance on studio time they had none left for the artwork for their CD. Andy liked the work of comic artist Brian Bendis & commissioned Bendis to do a piece for them; he paid for this out of his own pocket but didn't mind doing this at all as he also bought the original piece. So for him it was well worth the cost. Now if you think you know an artist JUST as good as those pros I mentioned who is sadly ignored and does work very cheaply, by all means please let me know about them!! I'm always on the lookout for the up and coming and as an art collector I'm thrilled that I've been able to find a lot of excellent work by folks who later got considerable acclaim (and are now way out of my budget!) Sorry again to ramble on so long and I hope I haven't bored the rest of you silly, I just (in the words of Richard M. Nixon) wanted to make myself perfectly clear, and I hope this is my final say on this subject! On another note, if anybody is interested in reading some short horror fiction directly inspired by The Misfits, have I got a fanzine for you!! Check out "Electric Witch #1" published by Dark Muse Productions. It's a collection of short stories and poetry by A.J. Ryan that pays homage to his favorite bands: the Misfits, The Undead and the Sisters of Mercy, and fans of these bands will get a chuckle out of the constant stream of references and in-jokes. Here's a bit from a story called "Black Macabre": ******************************************** And then it happened. Joey kicked out an almost perfect four/four, the band leapt out of back-lit coffins, and in a crash shattered all the windows of the club and blew the first few rows of people to the floor. Bobby burnt the metal so ferocious, he sprayed blood across Jerry, the first three rows, and then some. Glenn sang a few words as evil as their very definitions, and with an impetus that felt threatening to the soul. He hardly moved as he sang, dipped his head into the crowd , and they all sang along. His devilock hung well past his nose in front of a bloodless face, and his eyes were so dark you couldn't see the whites. His voice was perfect, she thought, like an evil Elvis: young, wild, dressed in black, and very dead. Eyes that were like a shark's: still, cold, and empty. "The Ramones from a green hell, they are," she screamed in delight. "Put New Jersey on the map. How can we ever thank them? How can New Jersey ever recuperate?" "What crypt did these fiends crawl out of?" someone laughed. "Get the stakes and kill them while we got the chance." "That has already been tried," she interjected." "That kinda evil never dies." They sang songs about faces turned inside-out, skulls, the rain of blood, JFK, a London dungeon, and the dead rising in a starte of somnambulism. She envisioned one of her most beloved movies, that was now being sung about. ****************************************** It's refreshing to see a story so full of enthusiasm for it's sources! There's also some cool bl&wh illos by Gina Minichino. You can order "Electric Witch" for $5.00 + $1 P&H per book from: Dark Muse Productions, c/o Daniel D. Burr, 8524 Hwy 6 N #323, Houston, Texas 77095. Make checks and money orders payable to "Dark Muse Productions" That's all for now folks! -EVB ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 90 Tuesday, July 11th 1995 Today's Topics: Hello everyone pleased? Where is Chuck Biscuits? not danzig Misfits Bible submission Correction: Fear Comic/I Turned Into A Martian What the hell is a human pony girl? Wisconsin / Northern IL - Pony Girl Society [Ponygirl.txt] (0/1) EUROPEAN FANS Re: Misfits Bible, #89 sideburns Quiz Ghouls Night Out 12" Misfits & The Greatful Dead????!!!!??? flex archive moved just an idea ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 15:25:34 -0400 Subject: Hello A nice long bible! Keep it up! EVB Interesting little post. I liked it! Danzig at Lollapalooza? Um....no. Have you seen the lineup? I don't know what all of you think, but it's all crap! When Rollins was on there, it was okay. But come on! Hole? Sonic Youth? I don't think it would work....Maybe I'm weird. EVB I have heard of, but have never seen a Samhain CD bootleg. Merely entitled "Live 85". The mail order guy sold it by the time I got my order in! I can talk to him about it some more... ------------------------------ From: GoatboyAK@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 22:47:34 -0400 Subject: everyone pleased? please put in bible: ------------------------ I know that I sent a few of you records and info packs.Did you all get them? If so were you pleasedw/ the quality. I hope so, I never try to rip anyone off!! andrew dempz- july 8-UNBROKEN & MOUTHPIECE!!!!!!Fieldsboro American Legion Hall,NJ.........bi-atch!!!! what the hell is the necronomicon that everyone keeps refering to and quoting?? i just got this "STATIC AGE" boot 7".Its so lame...the sound is o.k., but on the front of the sleeve, is a bunch of (non-misfit) skulls, and it syas "STATIC AGE", and on the back of the sleeve is the danzig/samhain skull..it's so funny, there's no mention of the misfits on the sleeve, or on the label... the songs on it are: static age tv casualty last carress hybrid moments.. are these the songs on the original static age demo, or are there some missing, or are there extra ones on my boot? it is on green vinyl, and is on DEAD RAM S-09 records. thanxxx, fiends! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 02:08:50 EDT From: MR MAURICIO NUNEZ Subject: Where is Chuck Biscuits? Does anyone know what Chuck Biscuits is doing? Haven't heard anything from Chuck at all. I still think he's one of the greatest drummers of all time. Also I'm looking to see if anyone out there has a Misfits or Samhain skateboard for sale. Please E-mail me if you do. Thanks ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 17:01:45 -0400 Subject: not danzig a satanist isn't always a devil worshiper. read the satanic bible. it's just a way of life where indulgence is prominant. devil worshipers actually worship. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jun 95 18:17:31 EDT From: "Nick wojciechowski..." <73532.2771@compuserve.com> Subject: Misfits Bible submission Dear Fiends, The Misfits Bible is really great.I'm a 13 year old skate-punk who worships the Misfits.The Misfits will never die in the hearts of the fans because they are the kind of band that you either really hate or really love and would do anything for a new rarity in your `FITS collection. Ya' know? Question-On what (official) releases was "Last Caress" on.I have a second generation of Beyond Evil:Demos and Outtakes that has it on it and it quickly became my favorite Misfits track, but I want it on a real release ..Can anyone help me? Question-What is the Fiend club and how do I join??? To everyone who says that SLAYER are "fake" satanists...SLAYER never said they were satanists.In an interview I read, they said that they just like writing about horror movies and serial killers(sounds similar to the Misfits writing style to me)...So there!SLAYER surely could be a better band if they d if they wanted, but I'm pleased w\what they've put out. Could anyone tell me the track listing on the Caroline version of "Die, Die My Darling"?It would be greatly appreciated.Oh yeah!Does anyone know what label the new Misfits stuff will be on? Well, the Misfits rule, and they probably will even w\out Glenn... So, until Glenn rents Sleepless in Seattle, make mine MISFITS!!!!! Nick wojciechowski... ------------------------------ From: "Beaulac, Jody (Temp)" Subject: Correction: Fear Comic/I Turned Into A Martian Date: Wed, 05 Jul 95 10:03:00 PDT Sorry...in the last bible I mentioned that I Turned Into A Martian was in Marvel Comics "Fear" #5. Well, it's actually in #4. Anyway, be sure to check it out. ------------------------------ From: HororHotel@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:57:18 -0400 Subject: What the hell is a human pony girl? I often asked myself what exactly a human pony girl was, and judging from the lyrics to the song, I figured it must be some sort of S&M kind of thing. I guess I was right. I found this posted on an S&M type newsgroup.... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject: Wisconsin / Northern IL - Pony Girl Society [Ponygirl.txt] (0/1) From: Carlos Date: 24 Jun 1995 01:10:06 GMT Message-ID: <3sfole$hqm@homer.alpha.net> Wisconsin / Northern IL - Pony Girl Society We are involved in the formation of a group in the BDSM arena with a focus on... "The Pony Girl" This is a very unique and interesting subset of general BDSM activities however it needs quite a bit of resources in terms of PEOPLE, EQUIPMENT and weirdly enough; LAND hopefully with a BARN and real horses. Things are just in the idea and discussion stage right now so, in terms of PEOPLE: FEMALES - submissive or DOMS that have female subs (or even you lurkers out there) who would be interested in involvement, or are curious and wish to learn more about this lifestyle and its possibilities without pressure. MALES - DOMS that have female subs who wish to explore New Training activities either to expand BDSM horizons or as Punishment. Also any Male Newbies (TOP ONLY!!, NO MALE submissive) that wish to explore this area of sexual interest. PEOPLE - who have open land or a barn that can be used as a closed and private area for staging play, video, parties, etc. Also anyone who owns equestrian articles or equipment that would fit (obviously a 40 horse hitch would Not, but a tiny buggy might be perfect) and like to see this applied to.... THE PONY GIRL, A celebration of the Human Female at her finest !!! Several of these societies exist in Europe, however only 1 other is known to exist in the US in Northern California. We are serious and sincere about this pursuit so flames will be ignored. Interested??? email: sbrunner@trcaccess.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:59:12 +0100 From: Stewart Gallacher <9243471g@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Subject: EUROPEAN FANS If any of the European Misfits fans would like to obtain a copy of the Misfits video tape put together especially for the bible then they can obtain a copy of the tape on the European system from a guy from Italy called Alfredo Cappello. If you want to contact him about this, his E-mail address is:- kappa@Linux.InfoSquare.it Would anyone out there be willing to send me a photocopy of the 8 page Thrasher interview with Glenn Danzig from 1986? I'd be willing either to trade for this or to pay full costs for it. If anyone could supply me with an original copy I'd be willing to pay $15 for it. If you can help me out on this one please e-mail me at:- 9243471g@udcf.gla.ac.uk Thanks also to those who typed in the Danzig and Misfits interviews for the last Bible. -STEWART GALLACHER. ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #89 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 0:55:50 EDT > From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu > medly. How about sticking louisville babylon in the discography? This is an interesting idea. Could someone please send me a song/band list for this tape? > From: "Warren A. Propst" > > Just a few other comments on last issue: > Stone--is this guy for real? Indeed, this guy should definitely be taken seriously. He is a fiend that helps out Jerry and Doyle... > From: Samhain666@aol.com > > What's Steve Zing up to? Anybody know? Why did he leave Samhain? Was it on > good terms? Does he have any solo stuff out besides the Runaway 7"? Steve left Samhain becuase he wanted to be in a band where he wasn't a "pawn" like the guys in Samhain and Danzig. He was also burnt out from drumming for Mourning Noise, The Undead, and Samhain - yes he was in all 3 bands at the SAME time. But he's still very much on good terms with them. He is still in contact with Glenn and hung out with him at the Red Bank show and had a great time. He's helping him out with the box set too. And he's got a new band called Chyna in which he is the singer. He currently works as the manager of inside sales for a percussion company in NJ. Just one question - what the hell is the Runaway 7"? mark ------------------------------ From: EevilDon@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:37:10 -0400 Subject: sideburns although the devilman may be a reason for the sideburns i think wolverine has a lot to do with them as well. just my 2 cents worth. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach "...to be a beast among human sheep..." ------------------------------ From: CTernes@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 00:31:55 -0400 Subject: Quiz Okay, let's see who can get this question right. The person to answer correctly can get an Idiot Police tape, if you're lucky. Name the song title which is shared by Danzig and Suicidal Tendencies. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 14:50:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Dodsworth" Subject: Ghouls Night Out 12" Just picked up this release at Smash. I checked it on the discography and it said red vinyl. Mine is blue vinyl, so I guess its a second pressing. It has a practice session from '81 (cool v. fast ver of Bullet), and Walk Among Us Demos on B side. They had a bunch of copies left if anyone can make it down to Smash in Georgetown,DC. -LD ldodswor@access.digex.net "Trust and you will be Trusted says the Liar to the Fool" - Type O Negative ------------------------------ From: Tony1013@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:31:31 -0400 Subject: Misfits & The Greatful Dead????!!!!??? Hello fellow fiends across cyberspace, this is my first post to the bible and I would like to thank Mark, EVB, and all the others who make the bible as great as it is....I wanted to share about a wierd coincidence I saw a few months back. I went to the Greatful Dead shows in Las Vegas( no im not a hippie ) and as i was walking around the parking lot I saw Misfits shirt after Misfits shirt on people walking by....actually it was the most Misfits shirts i had ever seen in my life!!!! The people that were wearing them were everything from punks to full on dread-locked hippies. There was even a guy with a boom-box blasting the Misfits. This was totally unexpected!!! Do dead heads secretly love the 'fits or something??!!?? I dont know, that was just a wierd obsevation that i saw that i thought i would share with the rest you......Is that bible convention still going on this summer? Later everyone!! \\\\\\////// "EXTERMINATE..." ------------------------------ From: Burkhard Jaerisch Subject: flex archive moved Date: Tue, 11 Jul 95 1:01:35 MESZ the flex book and archive has moved. it can now be obtained from ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/lists/flex/flexbook.zip and from a mirror site: mirrors.aol.com:/pub/music/lists/flex/flexbook.zip the mirror server is a lot faster and less crowded, so try it first. in the flexbook.zip file you will find a discography of the u.s. punk record scene from 1975 to 1995. 4000 reviews. cheers flex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:55:16 -0400 From: "Warren A. Propst" Subject: just an idea I don't know whether this has been done before or not, but perhaps to liven up the summer bibles (and make them a bit more friendly) i might try this. What was your first experience listening to the Misfits (or Danzig or Samhain) or your first concert experience with any of them ? It would be interesting to hear how long time fans and those just starting to love the 'fits got turned on to them. And, to all you out there who think Danzig "sold out" and are still pissed over Mother 94's success, I'd really like to hear a story like: (your name here) heard mother 94, I loved the video on MTV. Now I'm a big Misfits fan cuz I heard he was the singer. Myself..a friend played Walk among Us on a portable stereo on a camping trip, and it blew me away. I loved Hate Breeders esp. I borrowed the tape, dubbed it, and instantly wanted all the albums. That's it. Vlad Tempes -- "Kadath in the cold wastes hath known them, and what man knows Kadath?" -the Necronomicon- bk902@freenet.buffalo.edu; part@aol.com ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top