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Misfits Bible, Number 221
 
Friday, August 23rd 1996
 
Today's Topics:
 
 Re: Misfits Bible #220
 Re: Misfits Bible #220
 a hello to justin
    stuff
 Manowar, Bobby, schtuff
 Violent World
 wanted--videos of the misfits(prefeably bootlegs)
 eh?
 bootleg trading
 My Retort
 Re: Misfits Bible #220
 Re: Misfits Bible #220
       Re: Misfits Bible #220
 Re: stupid stupid STUPID people
 Why the Mephisto Lyrics are unpublished
 To Bobby
 Samhain 
 doyle's dad
 I'm NOT a nazi!
 More Sloppy Homework
 Hold on I think I have to puke, there's a spot in the corner.
 american nightmare
 Re: records for sale
 jerry at chiller theatre, glenns gloves, mephisto waltz, type o neg. aol
 the sid and jerry connection
 Return of the DJ
 Misfits of Ska
 misfits gloves (the kind glenn used to wear)
 michale graves
 One last time
 shout outs
 bobby...
 Misfits in Portland
 Burning away at the ends...
 Gabri-elle Palczewski and other assholes
 Jerry's hair
 Re: Misfits Bible, #219
 Re: Misfits Bible, #219
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From: _ 
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #220
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:07:34 -0400 (EDT)

> Subject: Jello Biafra (this post IS about the Misfits!)
> From: Patrick R Whittle 
> I read Jerry Only's interview in MaximumCrockOfShit (as it should be
> known!) a while back, and he was talking about how Doyle killed that kid
> with his guitar and "eventually even Jello Biafra jumped sides on us". 
> What's that all about?  What did Jello have to do with ANY of this?  Was
> he at the show (it was in San Fran, after all).  

As far as I know, Jello was not at that show (by the way Doyle didn't
KILL the guy) but I think Jerry was referring to the fact that a lot of
so-called friends for whom he used to graciously supply a place to stay
and food to eat have seemingly turned on him in the last few years.

> Subject: Mephisto Waltz
> From: Scott R Tiemeyer 
>    I'm sure this question was asked in the past, and I wan't here, but I
> need to ask it, cuz it's bugging me.  How come the lyrics to mephisto
> waltz were never published?? they are not in the box, or collection II. 
> whats up with that?  does anyone know the lyrics.?? talk to me here.

Since Mephisto Waltz was never recorded by The Misfits, Jerry did not
have lyrics to supply Caroline with for the box set.  Mephisto Waltz
was written by Glenn and recorded by Samhain, but included on Misfits 
releases because it was originally meant to be a Misfits tune.  The lyrics
(as figured out by me) are included on the page.

> From: Gabriel Palczewski 
> Subject: Re: misfits bible post
> 
> > not that i should even bother.........
> >    when the suit was initiated all members of the band were invited to join.
> > Most did.This was a legal battle that spanned years and involved huge legal
> > fees, hours and hours of reseach and work and great heartache. All those who
> > participated recieved compensation when the case was resolved. Those who
> > couldn't be bothered to participate while the case was in action shouldn't
> > try to rehash things now just because they feel they missed the boat. Why i
> > wonder are you so worried about it anyway? I don't recall ever meeting you. 
> 
> 	Me?  I'm not worried about it but the truth is, every single 
> Misfit has rights to the Misfits.  You can preach only those who pay have 
> rights to it but all of them have the rights to what they played on.  If 
> Jerry is going around saying he has The Misfits and is allowed to benefit 
> from them cuz he did the big tuff legal battle then that just slams the 
> Misfits legacy right there.  Glenn Danzig was wrong for screwing people 

Fortunately, nobody's philosophy on who is a Misfit matters due to the lawsuit
settlement.  Covering songs is a different matter altogether.  

mark

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:19:01 -0700
From: gjbao@sonic.net (Otto)
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #220

>Hey OTTO,
>
>        First, I'd like to welcome you to the MISFITS BIBLE. Obviously
>you're new here. THE UNDEAD was the opening band at THE RITZ. If the guitar
>stopped during the MISFITS set - it wasn't my fault. I think, basically they
>were pissed because they had been doing all these interviews - saying that I
>sucked on guitar - and THE UNDEAD ended our set with RATT FINK (a song the
>new guy couldn't play). It's called petty jealousy, and juvenile stupidity.
>
Okay, sorry Bobby I guess it just sounded funny to me.  I just had 4 teeth
pulled out so I was in a bit of a bad mood. Same with the theme for a
jackal stuff.

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 12:40:31 -0500
From: SCOTT EIDELMAN 
Subject: a hello to justin

justin:

hi there.  Saw one of your intelligent posts. I'm a jew, and I thought
you might like to talk about it.  Were you the idiot who had the "14 
Words" sig too?  Sorry if this is the wrong, uhm, forum.  Feel free to 
get in touch on your own at

eidelman@psyphy.psych.wisc.edu   or
eidelman@psyphx.psych.wisc.edu   or
eidelman@inlink.com

looking forward to hearing from you,

scott

ps misfits are playing mississippi nights (laclede's landing) in St. 
Louis next tuesday

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Date:       21 AUG 96 14:23:17 EDT
From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com
Subject:    stuff

A bunch of people wrote :

> doyle was supposed to be there but had to go to his dad's funeral, 

I thought his dad was still alive, running Proedge? Isnt that the sickness in 
the family deal now, cancelling all the shows?

>  I really think Doyle should switch to a heavier gauge string, since he  > 
kept breaking them, during every other song.

Since he makes his own guitars out of graphite, i have a feeling the truss 
rod he is using (the steel rod down the middle of most necks on guitars) is 
not strong enough to support heaver gauge strings. For all I know, his 
guitars might not even have truss rods. Either that, or the heavier strings 
might be tougher to bend, though he seems buff enough to be able to bend 
anything :). Then again, I might have no idea what I'm talking about. He 
should use the Dick Dale string set. Fucking Thick!

>As for the rest of you, I will deal with you later, I am too busy getting 
head right now from a blonde with huge tits.

What a blond fat guy? Whats his name, Bobby "The Brain" Heenan?

> and he was talking about how Doyle killed that kid with his guitar

When the hell did this happen? Are you for real? Fill me in.

>   When punk is as trendy as its been in over a decade, when bands like The 
Sex Pistols and The Damned are cashing in on big returns.

Who cares! Most people dont start bands and hope to be struggling artists 
living on food stamps the rest of their lives. Guys start bands to get chicks 
and make money. It beats fucking working at a desk all day, reading about it 
in the Misfits bible. If bands want to cash in on their name, its their 
fucking right. The Sex Pistols deserve every dime they get. So do the 
Misfits. Fuck, I probably make more in year than Jerry has from the Misfits 
in his life. I'd still rather pound a bass and rock and roll rather than 
doing what I do. Who cares what Jerrys reasons are for doing this. If you 
like the music and enjoy the show, thats all that matters. If you dont, dont 
go. I've seen the Misfits three times this summer, spending at total of $45 
on tickets. Its been the best $45 i spent in a long ass time.

Playing in a band is a job. You do it to feed yourself and your family. Where 
I work, I dont ask them to pay me as little as possible so I can keep my 
"artistic" purity. This whole starving artist thing everyone keeps talking 
about is the biggest load of shit I ever heard.

AZ

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:35:33 -0400
From: Randy 

Just because Jerry and the boys seem to be having fun, doesn't mean they
aren't in it for the money.  Come on you bunch of suckers.  They do it all
for the money.  Hell if I had known earlier, that the Misfits were
reforming, I would of assassinated Mikey Graves, and been the singer myself.
If you are not sure if the Mishits are in it for the money, ponder this; Why
didn't they start up an entirely new band? (like Kryst)  Answer: because it
wouldn't make any money, and didn't make any money.  Who cares if they are
in it for the money.  If you enjoy it good, if not oh well.  I'd sell all of
your souls for a nickle, as if I'd get that much for a bunch of dumb shits
anyways.  On a lighter note, I might be playing with MDC.  They will be in
the Halton area next Friday, freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee show.  E-mail me for details.

Oh yeah, I'm the promoter for a club in Hamilton.  How do you all think a
Misfits show with the Undead opening go?  Bobby?
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehheheehehheheehehehehehehehehehehehehheheheheh
ehehehehehehehehehbelchhehehehehehehehehehburphehehehehehehefarthehehehehepi
ckhehehescratchheheheheheohIshatmyselfheheheheheehehehpeeeeeeeeehehehheeheh
I'll hee you all in sell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:40:02 -0400
From: LastBastardOfRock 

All fiends from Detroit or familiar with the Detroit club scene, please
contact me.

Love and Kisses

J.jonah.jason

miderspan miderspan, fiendly heibournood, miderspan!

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:44:17 -0400
From: LastBastardOfRock 

Who from Ontario?
Me want answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pedophile(sung to attitude)

pedophile
bobby steele's a pedophile
i can't believe what he did to me
he's a fucking pedophile

inside your corn hole
is probably his dick (meaning fallus)
if you don't spread your legs
he's gonna make you sick

I'm kidding bobby.
     oops i said kid.   hide the children.

hehehehehehehehehfartehehhehehehehebelchhehhehehehe

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From: ChristoTer@aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:05:18 -0400
Subject: Manowar, Bobby, schtuff

Ha,

Has anyone actually heard these guys?  Oh man, I heard them on the
radio....something like "You'll die by the sheeth of my sword!" and then you
hear what sounds like swords clanking together....I never laughed so hard in
my life.

Anyway, Fiend guy, listen, why don't you pick up an Undead release (Never Say
Die goes for 7 bucks) and see what kind of glam rock that is.  It is people
that you that are making me seriously consider unsubscribing.

Superfly Snuka?  Is that guy still alive?  I remember when Roddy Piper beat
his ass...

And, there have been some tapes apparently floating around of newer shows,
that I don't have, so if anyone has any shows not on my list, e-mail me!  I
will gladly trade or buy.

Chris

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From: "Dorin M. Petre" 
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:56:36 +0200
Subject: Violent World

what the crap is the 3rd verse in violent world?

It's not onth web page or the set...
well, maybe it is...i 'm too lazy too check...but ive been 
wondering..
-greg

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From: MISFIT6x3@aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:02:51 -0400
Subject: wanted--videos of the misfits(prefeably bootlegs)

Fellow Feinds,
                     If any of you have any bootleg material of the misfits(i
know that you do) please send me info. about those.  i have $ and i will
pay(Just dont give me some outragous price that i can't afford-if you will
dont bother sending me mail)but if its reasonable then you can almost
garantee i will purchase it.also records,tapes,autographs,etc.  Just anything
you have on them or related bands.thank you for reading and stay true no
matter what happens.

Also if you were at the show in atlanta please mail me-i want 2 chat with you

                   Jade-------MISFIT 6x3@aol.com 

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From: "Dorin M. Petre" 
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:53:56 +0200
Subject: eh?

Doyle killed someone with a guitar?
eh?
come again?

-greg

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:14:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: Maisie Targett 
Subject: bootleg trading

Can somebody please help me?  I'm looking for someone to trade bootlegs
with.  I am looking for older Misfits recordings, with Glen Danzig.  I do
not have any Misfits to trade, but I have other stuff including Minor
Threat, Rancid, Ramones, Operation Ivy, and lots more.  If anyone is
interested, please e-mail me and I'll send you my list.  Thanks.  
Neil Targett  

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:20:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabriel Palczewski 
Subject: My Retort

To:  Ian & Cara

	Look if your trying to swing to me the Misfits as a music biz 
thing then they should already lose the fucking respect they have.  The 
Misfits arn't some fucking music businessmen they're a legacy.  Look at 
what they did int heir first 6 years and all the wondering and yes a bit 
of mystery about them in their low time due to lack of releases and hard 
to find songs.

	They wern't just a band they started a new aspect of punk rock in 
general and how can Jerry and Doyle go around, especially Jerry since he 
seems to be head honcho here and claim a copyright on the entire Misfits 
legacy?  Glenn never did that.  Oh you can say he made all the money, 
which he did but he never fucking had (tm) on the fucking Misfits name, 
he never acted like it was his band, he forgot about the band and moved 
on, it was HIS band that HE brokeup and now his ex-bandmates want to go 
reform it without him.

	Why don't they fucking move on?  Why does it have to be The 
Misfits (tm) with Jerry and Doyle on the shirts and posters?  Why can't 
it be Kryst The Conqueor doing their new songs "Mars Attacks" and "The 
Haunting"?  Why can't they do what every other fucking member of the 
Misfits did, and that was move on?  Bobby has The Undead, ROBO did some 
other projects as did all the band members.  Not all were musical or 
successful but hey, they let it go and if they want to carry on their 
days in The Misfits by covering the songs then they should.

	If Metallica and Guns n Roses is covering Misfits songs, I don't 
see why its sin for Bobby Steele an ex-member of The Misfits to go around 
and play some songs at his live set, songs which he has been doing for 
some time like "Bullet" or "Attitude"?  There was 12 years where there 
were no Misfits in any form, Bobby kept the legacy going as best he could 
while still doing new things with The Undead.  

	This shit about a majority of Bobby's songs being Misfits songs 
is crap.  Live Slayer boasts all of 1 and his other albums I think boast 
2 total.  Wow some big majority there.  Bobby has rights to those songs, 
Jerry should share them.  He fought and got the right to be The Misfits 
(tm) legally but that doesn't mean he should and he alone do Misfits 
songs.  

	Jerry didn't write the songs, Bobby didn't write the songs, Doyle 
didn't, Robo didn't, Googy didn't, none of them did.  Glenn did and if 
Jerry can play Glenn's songs then so can Bobby and Googy and all the 
rest.  Fuck that legal shit, if Jerry had balls he would still be called 
Kryst The Conqueor and his band would be doing Kryst songs and covering 
Misfits tunes and like The Undead, move on while still keeping The 
Misfits legacy alive.

	He could prove he doesn't need the Misfits name to make it, he 
could show everyone a big "Fuck you!" especially Glenn Danzig if whom he 
seems to hate, that he doesn't need Glenn's Misfits, he can be just as 
good with Jerry's Kryst The Conqueor.  Its Glenn's Misfits and always 
will be in my mind.  Legal or not, Glenn started it and should still hold 
the right to finish it.  Not Bobby Steele, Not Jerry Only.  

	Bobby knows this and moved on, its a shame Jerry Only can't.

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From: vandal@aloha.net
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:08:47 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #220

At 12:43 PM 8/21/96 -0400, you wrote:
>From: R Hinojos 
>Subject: out in the west texas town of el paso
>
>  stupid siting.  in El Paso, i saw a guy wearing a Samhain shirt shopping at
>Walmart.  now *that's* punk. =)

        What's wrong with someone wearing a Samhain shirt shopping at
Walmart? Yes, I understand the apparent contradiction between his purported
"punk values" and his patronage of a giant chain store like Walmart.  First
of all, how do you know he was passing himself off as "punk"? Just because
he was wearing a Samhain shirt? Samhain isn't the "punkiest" band in the
first place, and I happen to know a wide variety of people from MANY
DIFFERENT musical backgrounds who are fans of the Misfits and Samhain. 
        Perhaps I am overreacting to your comment (and forgive me if I am),
but I am getting tired of this whole issue of punk values.  I listen to alot
of punk music, and yet do not consider myself "punk". Should I kill my
parents, burn down my home, throw bricks at the police; would that make me
"punk"? PUNK HAS BECOME A CONFORMITY OF NON-CONFORMISTS (yes, there is such
a thing). It's more "punk" to reject the whole scene than it is to embrace
its dated cliches. I realize that punk is about thinking for yourself and
being your own person, but let's face it, people have been doing that for
thousands of years (and had more success at it than most punks I know);
personal freedom is not something exclusive to punk rock.
        I think the Sex Pistols' million dollar "Filthy Lucre" tour this
summer is the perfect eulogy for the entire "punk" scene.  IT IS OVER. 
        Like I said, I may be overreacting to your simple comment. If so, I
old ya a cold one.  Forgive me, my sense of humour circuits are currently
frazzled. 
        Sorry for the speech, folks, I'm breaking down my soapbox for firewood.
                        Vandal-X
 

		

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From: "Dorin M. Petre" 
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:31:25 +0200
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #220

OTTO WROTE:

>>Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 17:36:43 PST
>>Subject: Static Age
>>From: Scott R Tiemeyer 
>
>sorry scott but you spelt fiend wrong.

he already explained this; someone else on juno.com is "fiend", so he 
used "feind"

-greg

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From: "Roger Holmes" 
Date:          Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:07:14 GMT-4
Subject:       Re: Misfits Bible #220

This is aimed at a certian few:
  Well Ive been reading all of the shit you people have been passing 
off as posts in the last couple of weeks and I must say that Im 
getting sick of it all. So Ill get a couple of things off of my chest 
and then I wont bother anymore untill someone posts something with a 
bit of intelligence.
  Ok. First of all I want to talk about Rollins. Personally, I like 
his music, especialy the older stuff, and his spoken word shit is 
cool too. A lot of people say he is too serious and is no fun but I 
say if you had lived through some of the shit he has been through you 
would be a bit angry too. I dont care if people think he sold out. As 
far as Im concerned he didn't. So he can eat now big fuckin deal. ANd 
if it makes me unpunk or whaterver and people think Im a loser for 
liking him then that suits me just fine. As far as Im concerned I 
dont want to be liked by the likes of you. Fuck you. I hope it 
bothers you.
  Now about this whole punker that fuck thing. Hey, guess what, I 
like Greenday. Ha. Fuck you. I also like DK and the Ramones and 
Sloppy seconds and the Beatles and lots of shit and if that doesn't 
make me a punk then Im proud to say Im not a punk. I dont want to be 
like you cocks anyways. Fuck you.
  Hmmm. Let's talk about Bobby Steele. Personaly I have not me the 
guy but I have had Email converstations with him. He seems cool and 
raised a lot of good points. I hope he gets his money. He deserves 
it, however I dont think Its Jerrys fault that he didnt get paid. The 
real target of his and OUR agression should be CAROLINE RECORDS. I 
say we bombard those fuckers with EMAIL and tell them to pay everyone 
and not just Glenn. THINK about this for a sec OK. I met jerry at the 
three shows I attended and he seemed like a really nice guy. You can 
read previous posts about the show I say and My experience of 
checking out the rehearsals and shit and how cool he was about it but 
think about this. I spoke (on Email) of it with Bobby. 
  Jerry says he doesn't like Rollins anymore because when Robo went 
to Rollins trying to get help to get some money from Ginn. Rollins 
told him to get a lawyer. Replace the words Robo with Bobby and 
Rollins with Jerry and you have the same thing. HOWEVER, I dont think 
it is Jerry's responsibility to pay Bobby, but I think they should 
all get together and GET WHAT THEY DESERVE from CAROLINE or whatever. 
Dont get me wrong though, I dont know the personal history between 
Jerry and Bobby and they seem to hate each other. I wouldn't go out 
of my way for someone I hate either so who knows. 
  ANd as for the Misfits being in it for the cash. I doubt it. They 
probably make more money making knives. I know jerry was having a 
blast at the shows I saw. And Michale rules. Im glad he posted. I 
only talked to him for a few seconds outside the Sub Zero in Danbury 
but he let me take a pic with him and was cool. I dont think many 
people recognized him. I watched him rehearse Theme for a Jackal in 
Boston and he was amazing. Really cool voice and he changed the style 
a bit and it still kicked ass. He has me and all my friends suppourt. 
So what if he gets pissed off at people on occasion. He's younger 
that most of us for fucks sake. If you dont like him dont go. We dont 
want assholes at the shows that are not going to have a good time 
anyway. Personaly I think his voice is cooler that Glenns was at the 
time. Ive heard the way glenn used to sing on the live boots and 
Michale is better. Just wait a couple of years and you will all be 
eating your words. 
Well, I gotta go. I got suspended from university until may so once I 
get my place in mid October Ill set up my home email adress then and 
post from there.
Later
Roger Holmes
P.S
Feel free to send some grease in my direction you dumb mother 
fuckers. I like to take abuse from people like you. I hope you all 
drown in you own little punk subculture and die. But only till Aug 
28. Thats when my account here at UNB is closed. But Ill be back.

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:09:35 +0000
From: Eddie 
Subject: Re: stupid stupid STUPID people

R Hinojos  wrote:

>  stupid siting.  in El Paso, i saw a guy wearing a Samhain shirt >shopping at
>Walmart.  now *that's* punk. =)

Oh so now punks can't shop at wal mart? You're an idiot.

-Eddie, who shops(or shop lifts) wherevers cheapest

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:23:42 +0000
From: Eddie 
Subject: Why the Mephisto Lyrics are unpublished

> I'm sure this question was asked in the past, and I wan't here, but >I
>need to ask it, cuz it's bugging me.  How come the lyrics to mephisto
>waltz were never published?? 

Cuz it's a Samhain song. I found the lyrics on a Samhain webpage(i 
think the one Mark does). 

-Eddie

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:47:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daniel Rodrigues 
Subject: To Bobby

hello fiends,
	I want to say this to bobby it is sumthin I have wanted to say for
a while.
	YOU DONT NEED THE MISFITS!
The undead is a great band and you shine in that band.  I really dont think
that your misfits stuff is the greatest.  But I still love it.  So who
cares about jerry or the misfits.  The Undead is a great band and you
really show how good you are in it.  It bothers how so many people are your
best friend now cuz before you were here there was no support for you, I
and Mark and a few others were the only ones who supported you here.  But I
have always dug the Undead.  Man who cares about all that shit that has
happened to you, get on the gravy train and bring the Undead back!  
later
D-Rod

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:21:31 -0700
From: Otto 
Subject: Samhain 

I was wondering if November-Coming-Fire is on CD.  I've seen it on vinal
but that's it.

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:33:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: asenath 
Subject: doyle's dad

sorry i meant doyle's stepdad's funeral, mr. C. is still alive as the 
den-mom and several others were so kind to point out to me. sorry for the 
confusion.

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:59:24 -0700
From: Justin Deming 
Subject: I'm NOT a nazi!

Okay, Mark, I didn't realize I ever got so nasty.  I don't know, it 
really isn't like me at all.  Sometimes I get pretty nuts, no 
explaination nessesary for that one, kids!  Anyway, Mark, I owe it to 
you, so: I'm sorry.
Hinojos, a noogie?  A noogie?  Aw, goodness, give me a big fat break!  
You play with kids you feel sorry for?  That's called leading people on, 
I don't, no one does to me.  It's a totally woman-ish thing to do. [Yes, 
my last comment was VERY sexist, don't be offended, but you get my point]
Okay, at Six Flags today, I kept seeing this one guy in a "Misfits" shirt 
walking around with a guy in a "311" shirt.  I've now tied in my 311 
question to the Misfits.  I heard 3-11 stands for KKK.  This doesn't make 
sense to me because when I was in New York, my cousin was watching MTV 
and 311 was doing a concert, and the group had a drummer, a bassist, a 
giutarist, and, not one, but two, two, mind you, white RAPPERS!  KKK 
Wiggers?
Adam Seven, great, maybe it's your turn now to be the whipping boy for 
all these angry fiends.
Ian & Cara, before you break out your nigger attitudes (I say that 
because I can practically see your necks shaking with your comment), tell 
me how I'm a fucking hypocrite?
Sorry, Mark, I do have a temper.
EPiper8994, what is with all this nazi bullshit?- hey, your exact term, 
too.  The word on the tip of everyone's tounge seems to be "ignorant."  
Listen, I made one fucking offensive joke, a Jewish person flamed me, I 
flamed him, everyone flamed me, I flamed everyone, that went on for a 
while, what was said got nastier and nastier, someone called me a "nazi" 
and ever since that's been my fuckin' name here.  Ignorant-sheesh! What 
bullshit.  You're all so anxious to judge.
Please people, I'm finally calming down, flame not and ye shall not be 
flamed.
            MMMM      MMMM
            MMMMM    MMMMM            FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT
            MMMMM    MMMMM III    SSSS   FFFFF    III  TTTTTT  SSSSS
            MMMMMM  MMMMMM IIII  SSSSSSS  FFF     IIII  TTTT SSS   SS
            MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS   SS FFFFFFF III   TTT SSSS
            MMM MMMMMM MMM  III  SSSSS    FFFFFF  III   TTT   SSSSSS
            MMM  MMMM  MMM  III     SSSS  FFF     IIII  TTT S     SSS
            MMM  MMMM  MMM  III SSS   SSS FFF     IIII  TTT SSS  SSSS
            M M   MM    MM  II    SSSSSS  FFF     III   TT   SSSSSSS
                         M                F       II

They rule.
Vist my home page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/2694
I believe my critics would love it, too.
Yes, that's some cheesy statment to try and atract intrest through 
confusion and wonder.  Ignore it.  Don't go to my page.
- J.

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 02:38:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Teevie Alan 
Subject: More Sloppy Homework

>From: Patrick R Whittle 

>lol Bobby I know you played guitar on the Sloppy Seconds cover of "Where
>Eagles Dare".  My question for you is, who was in the band at the time,
>and who was the guitarist you were filling in for?  Or did they use two
>guitars?  The cover of the Destroyed CD shows three normal sized guys and
>one monstrously fat guy (B.A., the singer),

That "fat guy" is actually Danny, the ex-guitarist, who was in the band 
at the time of the Eagles 7" release. Sounds to me on that record that 
Bobby was playing along with Danny, as well as swapping verses with BA. 
Danny since got booted and replaced by a guy named Ace.

					Unca TEevie >;0)

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 05:50:43 -0500
From: Ken Ward 
Subject: Hold on I think I have to puke, there's a spot in the corner.

I know some of these may be ancient week-old issues now, but give me a
break. I have a Web Site and a BBS to run, plus I work full time.

>>  My least favorite songs are Come Back and Theme for a
>>  Jackal(does anyone actually like this song?)
Love the lyrics to both. And 'Theme' just had that great Jerry Only
trademark bassline that I loved so much in Return of the Fly, which is one
of my three tops, along with Halloween (7" version) and Hate Breeders (WAU,
but I like the "whoa oh's" on the CII)

>> (feind@juno.com) sorry scott but you spelt fiend wrong.
Actually, he clarified this before. Someone had taken fiend already. That's
why I hate Juno! I would be like weare139@juno.com =) No offense, Juno users
(esp. Bobby!)

>>The Misfits performed on August 4th in Cleveland
>>WITHOUT Michale Graves because they were under a contractual obligation
>>to do so.  Not performing on that date at that club would have set them
>>up to be sued by that club.
Very good point. This was yet another of those pesky "Punk Rock" antics of
the old-school days. This was why Chuck Biscuits replaced Bill Stevenson for
a gig or so, by the way. That was for whoever brought up the
Descendentsthing. Also, you can catch Chuck playing guitar in the movie Repo
Man w/ the Circle Jerks on "When the Shit Hits the Fan". WOW! I made a
Danzig-related addition to our knowledge! Wow! I acan honestly say this post
has to do with The Misfits now! 

President Kennedy [snickering] I have a few for ya:

RE: Doyle's devilock toupee
>> instead of using all the hair products like spray and gel.
Is this another solemn Bobby crack? Leave him alone.

>>> Mike, are you a fuckin' Jew?  That's my only problem with punk.
>> Stop.
Thank you Mark. I have stopped responding to him.

>>> I got a question, does anyone have the original Static Age release
>>Nobody has this release because there is no such thing.  Static Age as a
>>separate entity has never been released.
Actually, there is a bootleg @ Jerry's Records in Denver that came out
around '86 or '87. It is on orange and black swirled vinyl and is Swiss in
origin, I believe. I had never heard of it, and it is not in the
discography. It was #'d 64/100. They wanted $80 for it, I politely told
Jerry to fuck off.

>>>wouldn't i look cool with my paws encased in the skull-and-crossbones
>>>gloves glen wore circa halloween/WAU?...where i can get a reasonable
>>>facsimilie of those kickass finger warmers, let me know.
You can find a pair for $4 at the magic shop next to Casa Benita and
Boardwalk Arcade in the JCRS shopping center @  5600 W. Colfax Ave.and
Wadsworth Blvd. in Lakewood, Colorado, eight blocks W of Denver. And while
you're at it, get me a pair and tell all my fiends in Denver I said hi!

>I READ WHAT BOBBY(GLAM BOY)STEELE WROTE ABOUT HIM GETTING
>USED AND RIPPED OFF BY THE MISFITS AND HOW HE WAS IN FOR TWO YEARS. WELL,
>I'M AFRAID THAT I BELIEVE JERRY OVER BOBBY(I BELONG IN WHITESNAKE)STEELE ANY
>DAY!
Fuck you, little Green Day Offspring poseur fascist maggoty cunt homophobic
prick. 
>>> BOBBY STEELE IS A HOMOSEXUAL.
Shows you how immature Glenn and Jerry really were back in '81/'82. I just
think it's EXTREMELY funny that while they are screaming "Bobby Steele's an
asshole, etc." on that Xmas '81 LP, that Doyle misses EVERY fuckin' note of
the solo! I laughed my ass off for days the first time I heard this. Not
because of what they said about Bobby, I always loved Bobby to death, but
because they ruined the fuckin' song, and half of that set, all the while
talking about how "...and the Undead suck!..." Gee, talk about an oxymoron!
This is why I will take Live! '79-The Perfect Crime anyday over Evilive or
any live stuff with Doyle from that era. I do have a question, has Doyle
improved his live playing? The recorded stuff (most of which was Glenn
anyway) was okay, but live there was a void when Bobby left.
I believe Bobby said it best himself in Bible #220:
>>>It's called petty jealousy, and juvenile stupidity.

Okay to wrap this up, (finally, eh?) does anyone know where I can get the
cassette bootleg Dead Milkmen "live in New Orleans 1994"? They played an
awesome version of Astro Zombies as their encore, and I would like to get
the damn thing.

----
Misfit's Punk Planet BBS          (501) 772-1832
E-mail                                      misfit@slinknet.com
Web Site
http://www.slinknet.com/~misfit/index.htm
TDPNet                                   58:58/0.0

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:39:51 -0500
From: fennellw@bc.edu
Subject: american nightmare

>Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 14:43:29 -0400
>From: The American Nightmare Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #219

hey there's only one american nightmare, me!

------------------------------
 
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:34:23 -0400
From: Spockknock@aol.com
Subject: Re: records for sale

7 INCH LIST CONTINUED.....

MISFITS- cough/ cool (blank)

------------------------------
 
From: "Jess C. Cyphers" 
Subject: jerry at chiller theatre, glenns gloves, mephisto waltz, type o neg. aol
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:02:01 -0400

	hmm its funny that you mention jerry selling autographs and posters at =
a chiller theatre opening, when i say him at the opening of the CT in =
boonton, he was giveing out free autographed posters and stickers, he =
even gave me an extra of each for my friend. sometimes i wonder if he =
must have multiple personalities...
	i doubt you'll find anyplace selling gloves like glen used to wear, =
probably because he made them himself, but if your that unoriginal and =
uncreative, i'll make you a pair for $40, just like glenn's with a capt. =
horlock skull on the right and a crimson ghost on the left. or if you =
want the skeleton ones i can do that too...
	i bet mark will talk about the lyrics for mephisto waltz, so i won't...
	michale... great to see you on here again... the caps lock key is the =
button on the left...
	type o neg. thanks the misfits in their new album, listing them with =
all the people they toured with, since they only played one show =
together, i guess you can assume they're still on good terms with the =
misfits. so there's still hope for a type o neg/misfits tour... though =
not anytime soon... t.o.n. is touring with life of agony in the fall...
	why are michale, eerie, type o negative, the electric hellfire club and =
a whole bunch of people still on aol... YOUR ALL BEING RIPPED OFF! aol =
already has several lawsuits being filed against them for their billing =
practices. i hate aol so much, i'll even find anyone who asks a local =
server hah hah hah...

------------------------------
 
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:42:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Patricia Ragan Hoehner 
Subject: the sid and jerry connection

well,
after the Pistols broke up--blew apart is a better word--
Sid came to NY. Nancy didnt follow for a couple of months, the
first part he was in the hospital with hepatitis. I called him.
he ws very nice. Roberta Bayley called him, and talked for HOURS.
she would bring him comic books and stuff. He was really just a nice
innocent kid who was caught up in his whole public image.
Really, just like before Nancy/heroin came along, he was a regular
guy, but he finally got laid right for the first time in his life
and thought it was true love(meaning, got  hugs and kisses in addition
to getting his dick wet). Poor schmuck.
After he got out of the hospital, he did a bunch of gigs at
Maxs with different "scene" people at the time. He hung out.
Jerry was a gadfly, he ingratiated himself with Sid (not hard to do).
I dont know why Sid would have told Jerry he wanted the Misfits
to be his backup band, he had the best musicians in NY playing for him
at the time (Cheetah Chrome, Jerry Nolan etc etc etc.) Real musicians.
More importantly people with a lot more influence than Jerry. 
I cant imagin what Sid and Jerry had to talk about either, Sid was
a jerk when he was stoned and almost catatonic when he was straight.
Nancy was around by then too, so I cant imagine under what circumstances
Jerry could have had these intense discussions with Sid.
Before Nancy was killed and after Sid got to playing at Max's he was
pretty much a mess. All I know is, when Sid first came to NY nobody
wanted anything to do with him, after Nancy got back from England, and
lined up those gigs for him, he started being a somebody again.She did
try to help him get a career. Her instincts were good, (having him 
do cover songs like "Come on everybody " and "something else" with
a really  professional well known allstar type back up band)a nd his
werent bad either, but their relationship with each other and
their addiction got all their attention.

I think Sid just promised that to Jerry because it seemed like the thing
to say at the time. Bobby on the other hand, had been around longer than
Jerry and was in fact VERY friendly with Sid and actually was the person
Sid invited to his "get out of jail free" party. Jerry and Glenn ended up
going and not telling Bobby they were going, and Jerry pretty much just
bird-dogged his way in there...they raced out to Rikers with Joe Stevens
(he was a british photographer who was going out with a friend of ours)
and picked him and Ann (sids mom) up, and took him over to Michele's
(sids new gal--a friend of Bobbys!)without collecting Bobby. Kind
of rude, but they ended up doing Bobby a favor by not making him
an accessory to an unattended death (that is a crime,btw)

after Jerry was very solicitous to Mother Vicious, and drove her around
and did whatever for her. She was this helpless hippie lady. When they
went to England Jerry looked her up and hung out with her (yeech) .

If you want, you should check with Bobby on this story. Its a good one. 
(the Sid back up band thing).

I dont care much for Bobbys guitar style, but he's turned out to be a very
bright man with a great memory for detail and names. He's a good
storyteller too and lots of fun to hang out with. He has a right to be all
pissed off about this. He's hung in doing music for the past 15 yrs.  not
to take anything awaY from Jerry, I love the guy, he never did me any
wrong, but he reaLly needs to keep his stories straight.
       
later,
p

------------------------------
 
From: JHH5109@acs.tamu.edu
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:09:23 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Return of the DJ

Hoi,

	A couple of things...
	PATRICK WHITTLE -  Here's some Sloppy Seconds info, I've seen them
several times, and used to correspond a little bit with Bo'Ba.  The Sloppies
are from Indy, and first a couple of seven inches on a small label called Toxic
Shock.  Then, they released DESTROYED on Toxic Shock.  The lineup was as
follows....B.A. - Vocals, Dr. Roadkill - Guitars, Shazam Bo Ba Jam - Bass, and
Steve Sloppy - Drums.  The really large guy on the cover is Dr. Roadkill.  B.A.
and Bo'Ba are also kinda big guys, too.  After some touring, the Sloppies
released THE FIRST SEVEN INCHES...AND THEN SOME.  It was a collection on early
seven inches and different versions of songs on DESTROYED.  More touring. 
Then, the band released KNOCK YOUR BLOCK OFF.  Oh yeah, THE FIRST SEVEN
INCHES... and KNOCK YOUR BLOCK OFF were released by TAANG! records.  TAANG!
also released the Sloppy Seconds LONELY CHRISTAS EP and released a couple of
seven inches.  Then, the Sloppies were going to go tour Europe.  Dr. Roadkill
wanted to take his wife, but the rest of the band said it was a business trip,
not a vacation.  Heated words were exchanged, and Dr. Roadkill was out of the
band (I don't know all the politics of it and don't care).  Enter Ace
HardWhere?, the new guitarist.  The DESTROYED album was rereleased on Metal
Blade, and the Sloppies released LIVE! NO TIME FOR TUNING by themselves.  It
has since then been rereleased by XXX (TRiple X) Records.  Goddamn! I'm long
winded!  SORRY BIBLERS AND FIENDS!  Oh yeah, as far as the Where Eagles Dare
cover, ask Bobby.

People - Let's all play nice.  From what contact I've had, Bobby Steele is a
really nice guy.  Remember, although our heroes are music artists, they are
still human beings.  When you talk shit to what these people live for, you are
really screwing with those people.

	Joey Z. of Life of Agony said that the band recorded Hatebreeders for
the tribute album.  Joey is really nice! Go talk to him before the show.

DESCENTENTS FANS - EMAIL ME for a review of the new album.

Chuck Biscuits news - I got the new Social D. single at the station today.  I
like it!

I FOUND TWO MISFITS 7"  for SALE at SPLATTERFEST in CORPUS CHRISTI, TX.  It's
the SPOOK CITY U.S.A. 7" and another one just the Crimson Ghost on the cover. 
Go nuts guys and ghouls, I couldn't afford the $24.95 each price tag.

Sorry for the Long post...

------------------------------
 
From: ERIK   LINDBERG 
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:17:51, -0500
Subject: Misfits of Ska

Bible fiendies, read on. A lawsuit of different kind. This has 
probably been brought up before, but I honestly can't remember having 
read it. But Dill Records did a compilation called the Misfits of Ska 
using the Misfits' logo. He was contacted by good ol' Glenn's lawyer 
and was told that he couldn't use the Misfits' logo any more. What I 
don't understand is where Glenn gets the right to tell people what 
they can/cannot do with a logo he ripped off from Famous Monsters of 
Filmland. If anyone out there has a better understanding of this law 
than I do, please explain this.

-Chubbs

------------------------------
 
From: The Mocellas 
Subject: misfits gloves (the kind glenn used to wear)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:55:24 -0400

hey patrick,

you can get those goddamn skeleton hand gloves at one of those "HALLOWEEN
ADVENTURE" stores that are in malls around halloween. you can even get a
full skelton body suit (like the one on the cartoon glenn on the back of LOB).
so there. happy? you might have to wait a month for one of those stores to
pop up though.

-ratboy

------------------------------
 
From: The Mocellas 
Subject: michale graves
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 18:16:57 -0400

hiya guys.

i just wanted to post that michale graves seems like a great guy and is a
great replacement for glenn (on the chance he should ever read this). his
post in the last issue was cool, and well needed. i agree that the 'fits
handled the situation well in cleveland, and to the best of their ability. i
am sure most of the people who bitched about the misfits playing without
michale would have also fucking bitched if they didn't play, saying that
michale should take responsibility for his actions or some shit like that. i
swear, most of you people seem to be out solely to persucute these guys.
WTF, enjoy the music and settle down.

-ratboy

p.s.
bobby, you seem like a cool fucking guy to me. i wouldn't worry about a
bunch of newcomers flaming you cause they think that it is cool to act on a
CHILDISH flame danzig made fuckin ages ago. 

to everyone else: bobby is a good guitar player. that is ALL that should
matter to 95% of ou, anyway. sheesh.

------------------------------
 
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:26:36 PST
Subject: One last time
From: Scott R Tiemeyer 

Dear Fiends
  I KNOW HOW TO SPELL FIEND, I SPELLED MY HANDLE THIS WAY BECAUSE,
SOMEONE ELSE ON JUNO IS USING FIEND, SO I JUST SWICHED THE LETTERS
AROUND!  COOL?  Thanks for your concerns!!

------------------------------
 
From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO 
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:47:48, -0500
Subject: shout outs

First off I gotta start by saying that it was really fuckin' cool for 
Graves to post.  If you're out there I'd just like to say fuck anyone 
who criticizes.  You are an incredible singer.  I have a live show 
with the Haunting on it and I must say your voice is great.  This 
song will stand up to any of the old Misfits songs.  Not to mention 
you sound incredible on all the other shit too.  I can't wait for the 
new stuff to come out so that every "critic" out there can eat their 
fucking words.  Keep your head up and keep doing a great job. 

Secondly to Bobby Steele:  I know we had words in the past but I just 
gotta say I must have misjudged you.  I heard two live shows from 
when you were in the Misfits and the sound, especially the guitar, 
was incredible.  If you ever have any tips for an aspiring maniac who 
happens to play guitar, I'd be glad to hear them.  Also, I've been 
reading your posts lately and I been saying to myself, this guy ain't 
so bad after all.  I still love the Misfits but what happened between 
you guys is exactly that...between you guys.  Enough said.  So I 
humbly offer my apology for any shit I said in the past.  I 
definitely plan on checking out some of the other shit you have done 
since the Misfits.  First stop...the Undead. 
                                                                      
                                   ...Marino

BTW  I'll see all you fiends in the pit at Action Park...count on it. 

------------------------------
 
From: MR HAROLD W JAFFE 
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:22:49, -0500
Subject: bobby...

bobby steele, i have one thing to ask you.  Even after you leave the 
misfits why do you think you still should be performing their songs? 
when dead kennedys broke up did jello perform their songs in lard? 
when minor threat broke up did ian keep playing minor threat songs 
while in fugazi? how about rollins, when he made rollins band were 
they playing black flag songs?  Why can't you get it through your 
head, that you were in the misfits for all of 2 years, yet you still 
think that you are in them?  qhy can't you just play your own songs?  
why don't you just call undead misfits 2? 
 "it's a holiday in cambodia"-DK

------------------------------
 
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 18:29:55 -0700
From: Mousey Nopages 
Subject: Misfits in Portland

        well this is my first post to the bible....haven't really had much
to say until now.  Anyways I just got back from the show in portland so I
thought I'd tell you how it went.  I missed CC and LOA and caught the last
three songs of Anthrax ( one of the only metal bands that I like).  They
ended with bring the noise which I guess they've been ending with most of
the tour.  Lots o'rockers there.  It was wierd there a balcony at the club
and that was hair city but the downstairs was short hair punks and such.
The misfits came on with Halloween.  Micheal was wearing the skull
facepaint and a black and white striped shirt....He looked like something
out of Clockwork Orange..good look.  They blasted through a bunch of songs
and played two or threee newe ones.  It was great at the end of the show
they kept having people come up and sing (both members of other bands and
audience members)  They were just havinga party/jam session up there and we
were all invited.  I think Michale (I forgot how he spelt his name :( )  is
a great singer.  Anyway after the show came the intersting part.  Most of
the audience had either gone home or were hanging out by the busses.  about
20 people (myself included) were standing in front of the club.  Three cop
cars came and told everyone to leave or they would get hosed...something
about street cleaning.  A huge street cleaning truck showed up with the
hose poiter at head level and just blasted us with water.  I turned to walk
away and the guy in the truck aimed it at me and hit me again.  I was
completly drenched from head to foot along witha bunch of other people who
didnt run from it.  There was no violence no sign that trouble wasaa
brewing just cops being assholes.  Very strange. I  have been to many many
shows in Portland and nevr seen anything like this happen before.   Also I
saw john bush after the show signning autographs and he helped outa
homeless person with a couple bucks which I though was a pretty nice thing
to do.  All in all expcept for my premature shower it was one of the best
shows I have seen.
        Michale if you ever decide to get rid of that black and white
stripped shirt you were wearing I would love to have it :)
        I think Bobby Steele is cool and incredibly nice....the fact that
he contributes to the bible regularly and will e-mail you back if you ask a
question is pretty cool.  Who the hell are we to judge anyone anyways?
(p.s. Bobby if the undead/times square ever do a show in portland or
seattle tell me and I will cover the city limits with fliers!)
        Anyways that is my first post. hope you all don't think it sucke
too badly :)

"Throw away holiness and wisdom
And people will be a hundred times happier
Throw away morality and justice
And people will do the right thing
Throw away industry and profit
And there won't be any theives"
                                Lao-Tzu

------------------------------
 
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:58:00 -0500
From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.)
Subject: Burning away at the ends...

kello to all my fave Fiends...

It's another friday and time to write the post.
first off i would like to thank Michale for posting, very nice post and
especially that you stood up for Bobby.  So are you still wearing your Gris
Gris (pronounced Gree Gree)bag around your neck?   Which is how it works
for men.

Next, Justin - you need to get off this topic of hate you have been
sticking to lately.  No one wants to hear it anymore.  Plus give it up, no
one made you this way, ie the bible members.  You started off your first
post spewing hate.  Since you so desire attention i think you can get it in
a better way then a bunch of pissed off fiends yelling at you all the time.
Shit you pissed Mark off and that is pretty bad.  So please try and post
more in a fiend/Misfits topic for now on.

After that,  The legal thing, rights to songs that everyone is going on about.
Actually from what i was told about the legal deal with Glenn and Jerry is
that Jerry gets the name, can play the song but can't rerecord them with
the new band, the matter of money from the past - it is doled out in
percentages.  Each member of the Misfits gets a certain percentage of the
royalties, which i don't think this is the place to say what they are since
it would turn out to be an all out war among the fiends.  Also Ian and Cara
the thing between Glenn and Jerry was settled out of court.  I figure both
parties did not want to pay all the attornies fees and such.  To that fiend
that things Glenn is rolling in the money, your a bit off, he doled out
money to Jerry that was owed, also he is being sued by American records
which is why Danzig 5, which has been finished for a while is still not
out.  I know most of the bible members know the new label he's gone to.
Also you have to remember that Glenn probably has more rights over the
lyrics and music, since he did copyright it all.

Non Misfits - to any lawyers or lawyers to be who know the full process of
copy righting please post or write me about it.

well as usual its been real, i have to say i'm happy to see the bible going
back to some form of what i love about it.
later to all the fiendies, as i slowly pass out on my keyboard.
have a nice weekend all.
TES777(tammy)

------------------------------
 
From: Scott <>
Subject: Gabri-elle Palczewski and other assholes
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 04:53:59 -0400

This is my first letter to the bible,  having just become a subscriber.  =
When I first saw the incredibly well put-together home-page,  I was =
thrilled with the idea of communicating with so many other people who =
thought as highly of the misfits as I did.  However,  after receiving my =
first issue of the bible,  I was shocked by the tone of many of the =
letters.  I'M ONLY GONNA SAY THIS ONCE-if some of you fake fiends have a =
fetish for that clown Bobby Steele - then contact him through his own =
e-mail address.  Don't waste our time saying how great he is.  He has no =
more claim to being a Misfit than I do.  And for you Steele-sympathetic =
geeks out there-NO I DON'T KNOW HIM-but that doesn't mean I have to give =
him a break or keep myself from having a low opinion of him.  For those =
of you duped into believing he's a serious musician-just look at his =
Undead Page (which,  unfortunately,  can be accessed through Misfits =
Central).  He's looking for talented people to carry his sorry-ass.  "If =
you can write Undead type songs-PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE come out and =
audition".  He can't even write his own songs.  Wake up fiends- quit =
making him feel more important than he is.  There must have been a =
reason he was canned so quickly.
Now-for you Gabrielle.  Why do you even waste our time with your =
fucked-up opinions?  We don't need someone like you to give us your =
interpretation of who is entitled to what.  And as for your opinion of =
Jerry Only-you must not have gone to their show-cause if you did you'd =
know what I and many other people know-Jerry is more concerned about his =
fans than probably any other performer out there.  After a long =
performance in Pittsburgh,  he sat and talked to all of his fiends at =
least an hour until the cops made him leave.  He answered questions and =
signed autographs and treated every person there with genuine gratitude. =
If you had a brain you'd realize this is the first time they've been =
able to tour as the Misfits, shithead, they're not just cashing =
in(although they deserve every penny they can get-after being denied =
their share for 13 years).  If you have such a problem with the Misfits =
as they are today -then throw out your albums and cancel your =
subscription to the bible-WHATEVER-just don't put them down on a page =
that's supposed to be for their fans.  Go listen to your garbage Dead =
Kennedy albums and shut the hell up.  The only reason you didn't hear =
your boy Bobby putting down Jerry in the zines is because the reporters =
know that hardly any body ever heard of the sorry ass Undead and the few =
who have don't want to hear him cry.
For Michale-I think it's really cool that you take the time to add your =
two cents to this page.  It really is nice to see you actually care =
about the Fiend Club.  You're doing a great job in the band-I got chills =
when you guys broke into Hybrid Moments.
To all the true fiends out there-sorry for taking up so much space-but I =
just can't stand to hear some geek put down the greatest band in =
history.  I know how lucky we are to actually be getting the opportunity =
to see the Misfits and be able to look forward to a new album soon.  I =
never thought I'd get the chance to see the Misfits as long as I lived.  =
I told Jerry that and he said they were back for good.  I don't know =
about Gabri-elle but that makes me very happy!
                                              TO ALL THE FIENDS-
                                                     FANGS A LOT,
                                                         Scoots
                                                     scooter@ccia.com

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:01:20 -0400
From: The American Nightmare 
Subject: Jerry's hair

First of all, I was one of the lucky ones who got to see the fits play in
CLeveland and I didn't mind the least about the absence of Mr. Graves.  They
carried on like any other show.  Some kiid from the crowd even sang all of
Blacklight with them.  Pretty neat.  Considering I payed $15 for my ticket
and took work off, I would have been pissed if they didn't play.  Thanks guys.

Secondly, before the show I was talking to Jerry and I noticed his hair was
black, but his eyebrows were kinda blonde.  Does he really have sandy blonde
hair?  Or just light eyebrows.  I know he dyes his hair black, but I didn't
know what his natural color is.

If anyone has the 4 color sleeve Return of the Fly 7" boot, hold it up to
the light and the black vinyl turns into maroon with black swirls.  It is
really fuckin cool.

AaroN

PS-Keep those font/theme requests coming in.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:53:54 -0400
From: Rick Hambright 
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #219

Here is an amusing little story that happened like the year before last at
the spring Chiller Theather Convention.  Jerry & Doyle, myself and my friend
were all up on the thirteenth floor (yeah I didn't think most buildings had
a 13th, but this place did) and we all happened to go get on the elevator to
head down.  You all know what Jerry & Doyle look like and I had hair down to
about the middle of my back and scruff on my face...  The elevator stops and
this older lady gets on and starts looking really really nervous...like
we'll all going to gang rape her or something...
She lasted about 3 floors and then just off on like the 5th floor.  We'll
all just looked at each other and busted out laughing.

Jerry & Doyle seemed extremely cool at the convention...but I'm riding down
with them in the elevator and I couldn't think of one damn thing to say to
them to start a convo!  Jerry had one of his models with him and I didn't
want to just say something dorky like "Nice model dude..."  I just thought
it was cool as shit that I was riding down in the elevator with the Misfits.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:54:02 -0400
From: Rick Hambright 
Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #219

>>If the Misfits are such a famous "punk rock" band, why is it that just
>>every book I've picked up on "punk" and every article I've read on "punk" has
>>overlooked them? 
>
>The word is OVERLOOK. We got very little  respect in those days. Even THE
>UNDEAD is ignored despite having contributed strongly to the early
>hardcore scene. We didn't kiss ass, and we got ignored.

If you read the articles or tv segments about "punk", they rarely if ever
hit the '80s.  They are usually about "How did punk get started..." or
something like that...  They hit the Stooges, The Ramones, Sex
Pistols...talk about CBGB's...then they jump into some shit like "Green Day
says they were influenced by punk bands like the Ramones..."  I haven't seen
one show that hit 80s punk.

 
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Misfits Bible, Number 222 Monday, August 26th 1996 Today's Topics: my 12" none. skip this post Boots more stuff Daily Devotional Guide Re: Misfits Bible, #221 Doyle JAFO no more Let's talk trade Kids Whos got my back on this one!!! More Punk than Thou(dig) Re: Misfits Bible #220 November Coming Fire punk rock walmart and other silly shit Bible #221 When you think of my face, think of your blood, think that you're dead, cause it's a grizzly bloodfeast. Re: Misfits Bible, #221 Re: Samhain Samhain Top 10 pet peves i'm sick of this shit HA HA Re: Misfits Bible, #177 Re: Misfits Bible, #177 Another post from J. Jugheads Revenge First entry! Misfits on VH1??????????????????????? Re: Misfits Bible, #221 misfits bible dead milkmen tipitinas I WANT TO GO TO ACTION PARK! NCF Armbands, and Devilock (again?) Mephisto Random Bullshit... MISFITS Writing songs the hard way... It's The Drugs Talking . . . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:32:46 -0700 From: Otto Subject: my 12" I just got the Die, Die my Darling 12" from a record store near my house that I only recently discovered. I don't know what color vinal it is because I have'nt opened the plastic yet. Any suggestions? Does anyone else have this? I got it for $7.50. Well, whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:45:05 -0400 From: "::datskat::" Subject: none. skip this post haven't been posting much. i know how everyone must be hurting. employment, ferrets, and plantar fasciaitis have been consumimg much free time. looking for copies of 2 96 shows: 9:30 Club, DC 5/1/96 and Capitol Ballroom, DC 8/3/96 (think i saw a clip of this one on COPS). speak to me if you can assist in my search. justin - you..... oh never fucking mind. lost cause. wake up. hope you enjoyed my post. i'll be posting more as i regain consciousness. craving chicken soup, datskat *************************************************************************** @ "punk ain't no religeous cult, punk means thinking for yourself @ @ @ you ain't hardcore 'cause you spike your hair @@ @ @ when a jock still lives inside your head." @ @@@ @ @ mail me your thoughts on corndogs, Ron Jeremy, or the wonderful @ @@@ mullet hairstyle. @@ @ @ @ @ @ "I drank what?" - Socrates @ *************************************************************************** check out d's list o' shows at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3027/ ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:02:46 -0400 Subject: Boots Long post: Neil (and others), I have a very long (and pretty complete I only know of about 5 shows out there I don't have, and a few of those are Bobby's) list of Misfits bootlegs. With Glenn, Proedge sessions, radio interviews, and with Michale....yes I have many.....the post is on the Misfits WWW Page under the News section and "Misfits Live Tapes Available". Check it out......5 bucks a TAPE (not show). As far as trading goes, I'm not much of a punk fan, so you probably don't have too much that would interest me (unless you've got Black Flag shit). Drop me an e-mail.....ChristoTer@aol.com I'm sure you know it is Glenn....not Glen. Lerret---did you get those tapes? Are you still doing the thing? I'm finally getting around to those Rude and Crude things....that MOD thing is funny as hell, and I love the Dayglo Abortions. Vandal, I got the impression from that Hinojos post that the comment on "now that's punk" was a joke of some sort....I mean I agree with you about the conformity of non-conformists....but I got the impression that it was a meaningless little funny funny comment. *Maybe I'm wrong!* Eddie, same with you....lighten up. If you disagree with someone at least make your comment intelligent as Vandal did. I think we've evolved a bit more than to disagree with something and the only argument being "fuck you" or whatever. Otto, yeah N-C-F is on CD....check out the page, as it seems you haven't. The Discography will leave you numb. Actually, I had a guy try to sell me a "first press" CD for $50 because it had a different address on it....what's that about, Mark? Justin, by using the term "wiggers" you dug yourself in the hole some more....not that most people on this list haven't used the term before, most just won't admit it. I'd really just drop it. I mean, I've found that there are two types of people. Those who are offended by Archie Bunker, and those who think he's the funniest character on TV. Don't let these hyper-sensitive types get to you. Hey Harold, listen, read some arguments on the other side of the coin, and maybe actually read what Bobby had to say, this way, you can understand that Bobby fully understands he's NOT in the Misfits..... Bible boy---at the next Idiot Police show we're going to cover "The Antichrist" by Slayer, and I'm going to burn a Bible during it. AND, I'll dedicate it all to you. Would you like a copy on video? Hey, does anyone know the lyrics to any and all of the Misfits, Samhain, and Danzig songs? Plus songs Glenn has written for people like Johnny Cash? Damn I wish there was a WWW page with type of stuff. Chris ------------------------------ Date: 23 AUG 96 13:09:26 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: more stuff more stuff > > On a lighter note, I might be playing with MDC. Are they touring again? Cool! "Change from your 5, ankle deep in blood, slaughter and starvation, from death corporation. Ronlad Mcdonald, corporate deathburger" > Superfly Snuka? Is that guy still alive? As far as I know he is. I dont think he wrestels anymore though. > I was wondering if November-Coming-Fire is on CD. I've seen it on vinal but that's it. Yes its on CD. Dont know if its till being pressed though, I'm sure MArk will know. > I do have a question, has Doyle improved his live playing? Yes. He actually does play pretty damn good on the misfits tunes. He may have sucked on those old boots, but he does pretty good now. > The recorded stuff (most of which was Glenn anyway) was okay. Did most of Doyle studio tracks get redone by Glenn? If so, besides the fact that he was Jerrys bro, why was he in the band? DENMOM! Thanks for that cool story. I love hearing about all that early punk stuff. I just hope Jerry didnt go to Sid for bass lessons, that guys sucks ass! ;) > bobby steele, i have one thing to ask you. Even after you leave the misfits why do you think you still should be performing their songs? Uhh, lets see, Roger Waters does Floyd tunes, Danzig did Misfits and Samhain, Ozzy does Sabbath, Dee Dee does Ramones tunes, Ian Gillan does Deep Purple, Clapton does Derek and the Dominoes, Rotten/Lydon did Pistols with PiL, etc, etc, etc ..... not Again .. > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 01:21:36 GMT Subject: Daily Devotional Guide From: "St. of Dreams" What the fuck was this all about? I though we made it clear that people should check their goddamn religions at the door before getting on this list. Let me guess, they thought the Misfits Bible had something to do with the regular Bible. > , God promises that in times of trouble there will be a way out. Yeah, its "16 Reds and bottle of wine". Just ask Jim Carroll! > While suicide seemed easier, homicide was the way to go. Why not do both? Murder/Suicide is the craze of the 90's > Throught For The Day, Thrusday, Well, if God helped out of that abusive marraige, why couldnt he help you fucking spell!!!! Yo scooter@ccia.com > if some of you fake fiends have a fetish for that clown Bobby Steele Uhh, no, I wouldnt say its a fetish, but your comment "NO I DON'T KNOW HIM-but that doesn't mean I have to give him a break or keep myself from having a low opinion of him", says it all. Your ignorant. > There must have been a reason he was canned so quickly. I wouldnt say 2 years was so quick. > FANGS A LOT Wow, you must have been up for hours thinking of that sig. ------------------------------ From: _ Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #221 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:22:44 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Dorin M. Petre" > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:56:36 +0200 > Subject: Violent World > > what the crap is the 3rd verse in violent world? Come on guy, you know it's on the page. Here's the way Michale sings it: Any opportunity comes Can't afford to rot, so you move on Any opportunity comes Can't afford the Nazi movement > From: Otto > Subject: Samhain > I was wondering if November-Coming-Fire is on CD. I've seen it on vinal > but that's it. Yes. It's out there. By the way fiends, it's time to start getting all the Plan 9 releases you want, because they're not being pressed anymore. All Plan 9 releases (Samhain/Misfits/Black Aria/CD/LP/Cass) are now out of print. > From: Ken Ward > > Very good point. This was yet another of those pesky "Punk Rock" antics of > the old-school days. This was why Chuck Biscuits replaced Bill Stevenson for > a gig or so, by the way. That was for whoever brought up the > Descendentsthing. Do you have any idea when Chuck replaced Bill, or how many shows it was for? > President Kennedy [snickering] I have a few for ya: > > RE: Doyle's devilock toupee > >> instead of using all the hair products like spray and gel. > Is this another solemn Bobby crack? Leave him alone. Nice try, but no. Please don't tell ME to leave Bobby alone. Bobby has helped me with the info on my web page more than almost anyone else and I certainly have never made a 'solemn Bobby crack.' What I was referring to, if you must know, was Doyle's brother Jerry who uses a good amount of hair products to shape his devilock. > Actually, there is a bootleg @ Jerry's Records in Denver that came out > around '86 or '87. It is on orange and black swirled vinyl and is Swiss in > origin, I believe. I had never heard of it, and it is not in the > discography. It was #'d 64/100. They wanted $80 for it, I politely told > Jerry to fuck off. Bootlegs don't count! Seriously though, did this bootleg have all 14 songs? I doubt it. There are a good number of 7" bootlegs with anywhere from 1-8 songs on them. > From: tes777@bridge.net > > parties did not want to pay all the attornies fees and such. To that fiend > that things Glenn is rolling in the money, your a bit off, he doled out > money to Jerry that was owed, also he is being sued by American records Well, this is sort of wrong. Glenn didn't lose a penny. He made money by selling the masters to Caroline. mark ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:10:14 +0200 Subject: Doyle >asshole, etc." on that Xmas '81 LP, that Doyle misses EVERY fuckin' >note of the solo! I laughed my ass off for days the first time I heard >this. Not I never heard Doyle do a solo correctly... He couldn't even seem to get SomeKindaHate down, and that's easy... oh well, his presence is cool enough. -greg (sorry i always post several times, I usually respond as i read.) *** Talk to me over the 'Net! *** Iphone address: Dorin@pub1.ipn.vocaltec.com ------------------------------ From: RevHugosXe@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:58:29 -0400 Subject: JAFO no more well here it is,my very first post on the bible after weeks of observing.i'll probably get shit for throwing in my oppinion,me being a new jack & all (i'm 17 and have only been a serious fiend for about 3 years).i just wanted to say that after years my dream of actually seeing the misfits was finnaly realized on june 28th at Roseland in NYC. to be honest,it truly was one of my better experiences in this SHIT world.meeting doyle,a man i've looked up to and been inspired by for years,before the show was just incredible.and when they finally came on,i was in an alternate world,singing song after song for 2 hours with the band that i've idolized for 2 years,and i think the replacements are incredible.Dr Chud(that movie was fucken great!memorized it when i was 8)is probably the best drummer they've ever played with,and i have to agree with my friend that michael sounds better than glenn ever did(at least as far as live performances), even if glenn wrote all the songs. now that i've gotten how i feel about that out of the way,i was thinking about all the people who say it's wrong for only two real members to be using the misfits name, even if they do play the old songs.i'm not out to pick any fights(anybody who like the 'fits has got at least one good quality),but i've noticed that a lot of you aree loyal to Danzig.how the fuck can he go on with his band without eerie,chuck,or john.him and a drummer? thats not Danzig!(i know its his name,but mosty people recognize the rest of the band,too,when you mention Danzig.)just thought i'd toss you guys that thought,maybe it'll shed you some new light on the idea of the new Misfits. oh,one other thing:to everybody who wants to put together comps,i'm in 2 bands, Swamp Ass and Hurt Lock,both of which would be very intersted in participating,plus i have a few freinds in bands who'd also like to be in on it.i'm working on a small hardcore record company and would like to also help in any way needed aside from the bands. i was in a misfits cover band with members of Baby M and Cleanser,but it probably won't happen,especially with the misfits back. well,sorry it was so long,i'll try and keep it shorter in the future,and thanx for your time. keep it real n.y.h.c. Reverand Hugo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:04:04 PST Subject: Let's talk trade From: Scott R Tiemeyer Hell-o all you fiends, I was wondering if anyone had some GWAR or X-COPS videos, bootlegs, anything, that I might have, I'm really looking for some X-Cops video. But anything by either band is apreacited.... I will trade misfits stuff or $$$ of it..Let me know e-mail me at FEIND@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:05:03 PST Subject: Kids From: Scott R Tiemeyer Does Jerry, Doyle, Chudd, or Graves have any kids. The reason I ask is cuz on this video I got of em' this little kid gets helped on stage by Doyle, I was just wondering if that was one of the band members kids....if so lucky kid! Strength Always Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:19:29 PST Subject: Whos got my back on this one!!! From: Scott R Tiemeyer Listen up Fiends, Hey Randy (cbmed@cdx.net). This is a fucking mailing list for misfits fans. What the fuck is your problem, calling the Misfits the Mishits. FUCK YOU! You don't know what the hell your talking about, with your stupid ass comments. Thats just the kind of bullshit that no one here wants to read, thats why people unsubscribe. Sure some constructive critism is expected..thats cuz WE (all except you) are fans. So shut your fucking mouth about this Mishits stuff, or get the fuck off. RIGHT FIENDS!!!! Scott ------------------------------ From: "MIKE,26,VIRGO" Subject: More Punk than Thou(dig) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:50:31 -0700 > From: "Roger Holmes" > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:07:14 GMT-4 > Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #220 'da guy wrote: > Now about this whole punker that fuck thing. Hey, guess what, I > like Greenday. Ha. Fuck you. I also like DK and the Ramones and > Sloppy seconds and the Beatles and lots of shit and if that doesn't > make me a punk then Im proud to say Im not a punk. I dont want to be > like you cocks anyways. Fuck you. I dig all kinna music also. I saw Harry Connic Jr. a few years ago (and dug it), wearing my boots and cut off Dickies. Now that's *punk rock*!! More Punk than Thou MIKE,26,VIRGO ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:15:18, -0500 Subject: November Coming Fire >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:21:31 -0700 >From: Otto >Subject: Samhain >I was wondering if November-Coming-Fire is on CD. I've seen it on vinal >but that's it. November-Coming-Fire is out on CD. I never saw it either until a month ago. I bought it used at a record shop for $10. The catalog number is PL9-CD07. ...Marino ------------------------------ From: The Mocellas Subject: punk rock walmart and other silly shit Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:40:25 -0400 hey vandal, i am no one to speak as i did not post the thing about the samhain shirt in walmart, but i am sure (and PLEEZE correct me if i am wrong here) that there was no malice in this post. i, too, would find i funny to see a samhain shirt in a store when i was trying to by some detergent or something. not because it isn't "punk" to shop there, but because fans of samhain are truly in the musical majority and it is odd. christ, we all need to settle down around here. -ratboy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:40:48 +0200 From: PeterMoeller Subject: Bible #221 >From: Scott R Tiemeyer > >Dear Fiends > I KNOW HOW TO SPELL FIEND, I SPELLED MY HANDLE THIS WAY BECAUSE, >SOMEONE ELSE ON JUNO IS USING FIEND, SO I JUST SWICHED THE LETTERS >AROUND! COOL? Thanks for your concerns!! Hey Scott, feind (though with a capital F) means enemy in german. Thought I'd let you know :). >From: _ >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #220 >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:07:34 -0400 (EDT) > >> Subject: Jello Biafra (this post IS about the Misfits!) >> From: Patrick R Whittle >> I read Jerry Only's interview in MaximumCrockOfShit (as it should be >> known!) a while back, and he was talking about how Doyle killed that kid >> with his guitar and "eventually even Jello Biafra jumped sides on us". >> What's that all about? What did Jello have to do with ANY of this? Was >> he at the show (it was in San Fran, after all). > >As far as I know, Jello was not at that show (by the way Doyle didn't >KILL the guy) but I think Jerry was referring to the fact that a lot of >so-called friends for whom he used to graciously supply a place to stay >and food to eat have seemingly turned on him in the last few years. When the Misfits were in Berlin this year, Jerry told me and a friend, when we asked him about politics connected with music, he sad the DK's were always far too political for him and told us also this (I don't know when or if this happend): if they (the Misfits obviously) had trouble with the audience and it would've been band vs audience, Jello would've always been on the side of the majority. He put it like this: "If you have 200 people and 99 wanted the fucking wall painted blue and 100 wanted the fucking wall painted yellow, Jello would be the one who wanted it yellow!". So, this is at least what he told us. Make up your own mind... -- '... when I was young pc meant police constable, nowadays I just can't seem to tell the difference...' MSP ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:24:33 -0500 From: Ken Ward Subject: When you think of my face, think of your blood, think that you're dead, cause it's a grizzly bloodfeast. Oh no. I got a few more of my usual complaints. Notice I can never start a new conversation, just bitch about the existing ones. = ) >>letters. I'M ONLY GONNA SAY THIS ONCE-if some of you fake fiends have a >>fetish for that clown Bobby Steele - then contact him through his own = >>e-mail address. Don't waste our time saying how great he is. He has no = >>more claim to being a Misfit than I do. And for you Steele-sympathetic = >>geeks out there-NO I DON'T KNOW HIM-but that doesn't mean I have to Way to go, Scott! One post and I already wanna murder you. Good going, asshole! I'm sorry, but two years of your life in a band is quite a long time. Hmmm...let's see Ozzy Osboune was only in Black Sabbath for 9 out of 26 years, so hmmm....let's see that's roughly 33% of their career...and The Misfits were originally together from '77 until '83, that's six years...so Bobby was in there for WHOA!! That's 33% of their career! That means that Ozzy was never a REAL member of Black Sabbath, then. I'm sorry. I guess Bobby really never was a Misfit. This anti-Bobby shit has been an old issue to me for years! I was tired of this shit years ago, c'mon it's been 15 fucking years! Stop it! >Subject: Daily Devotional Guide > No testing has overtaken you that is not common to everyone. G** is >faithful, and he will not let you be tested beyond your strength, but with >the testing he will also provide the way out so that you may be able to >endure it. What the fuck is this shit? That post was definately not Misfits related in ANY way! Hey Mark do you screen ANY of this stuff before you put it in? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- Misfit's Punk Planet BBS (501) 772-1832 E-mail misfit@slinknet.com Web Site http://www.slinknet.com/~misfit/index.htm TDPNet 58:58/0.0 ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:03:42 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #221 Otto asked if November Coming fire is on cd... It is. how do I know? I have it. It was kinda tough to find...although I thought Initium was harder... (the best Samhain album BTW) yadda yadda. -greg *** Talk to me over the 'Net! *** Iphone address: Dorin@pub1.ipn.vocaltec.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason R. Oberg" Subject: Re: Samhain Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:21:31 -0700 From: Otto Subject: Samhain I was wondering if November-Coming-Fire is on CD. I've seen it on vinal but that's it. >Yes Otto, it is on CD. A record store near me has 2 copies of it used on CD for like $8 or $9. Email me for more info. Jay, by185@freenet.buffalo.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:30:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason R. Oberg" Subject: Top 10 pet peves Hello Fiends, Though I like the Misfits Bible a lot, I've come up with a top 10 list of the things it could do without. 10. Bobby Steele bashing 9. Micheal Graves bashing 8. sXe than fuck meters 7. racist fucks 6. religious h8ers 5. punker than fuck meters 4. the word "PUNK" and the image and ideology(sorry if this is too big of a word, look it up) behind it. 3. people who complain about the tribute album and who is going to be on it (if you dont like it, dont buy it!) 2. people who complain about the misfits selling out 1. people who start off a post saying "I'll keep this short", and then go on to write 10 pages. -It's all music in the end. If you dont like it, dont listen to it! KH-2. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:49:30 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: i'm sick of this shit > stupid siting. in El Paso, i saw a guy wearing a Samhain shirt shopping at >Walmart. now *that's* punk. =) to vandal: no thanks, i dont drink. how about a hug? ;) "Shopliftin'" Eddie: there was a happy face after the comment, in case you didn't notice. it was meant to be satirical... just how often do you see Samhain shirts in public, anyways? i mean, away from schools and where the kiddies hang out... my bestest little friend Justin Deming said: > Hinojos, a noogie? A noogie? Aw, goodness, give me a big fat break! > You play with kids you feel sorry for? That's called leading people on, > I don't, no one does to me. it's called having a little fun with you. :) are we calmed down yet? > From: Ken Ward > Shows you how immature Glenn and Jerry really were back in '81/'82. I just > think it's EXTREMELY funny that while they are screaming "Bobby Steele's an > asshole, etc." on that Xmas '81 LP, that Doyle misses EVERY fuckin' note of > the solo! Doyle solos? i've heard a few live things where doyle starts to solo, and actually starts off good, then turns it to crap. maybe he held back on his technical skills (if any ;) to go with the aggressive downstrokes and choppy chords? (we wouldn't want to let the song fall apart just to have four bars of talent show through.) hmmmm. did bobby get the boot because glenny wanted the aggression to come through live, and not musical prowess? the Jerry/Doyle live stuff i have doesn't exactly showcase them as musical talents. it was noisy aggression, culminating in the EarthAD/Wolfsblood album. maybe glenn wrote that album to goof on Jerry/Doyle's habit of playing too fast and awful? if this has been said before... ryq ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 18:41:06 -0500 From: DISPUTE Subject: HA HA This is to that LastbastardofRock guy. I only have one thing to say to your song. HA HA HEE HEE WOO YEAH!!!!!!!!!! Also one more thing, for the people that keep whining and saying things like,"Its people like him that make me want to unsucsribe",well, actions speak louder than words fairy boy. DISPUTE "its domestic" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:27:22 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #177 Static boy is an obtuse powerhouse of rage that that lowers the entire publics opinion of this so called Misfits "Bible". Uncle "Rat tat tatin' dat ass 'till it rains monkeys" Sebastian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:35:39 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #177 Sorry I haven't written for a while but I've busy personally protecting the 'Fits whilest they toured. You might have seen me. I was the drunk Skin'ead with the chainsaw behind the scenes. If you have read this far you should be shot for caring so much about my life. Wes "For free Snapple coupons call 1-800-SNAPPLE" Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:23:51 -0700 From: Justin Deming Subject: Another post from J. Misfits at Mississippi Nights this Tuesday? Whoa! I'm gonna see if my dad won't be so tight-assed this time around! People, all of the stuff about how the current band isn't the real Misfits is getting old. Look, it's really pretty simple. This band is not the Misfits. The Misfits were Glenn Danzig, Jerry Only, and various guitarists/drummers. These guys are the New Misfits. I really don't appreciate the idea of these new songs being put into the same catagory as the songs we've all known and loved for years. This band is a Misfits cover band, but I don't have anything against them. In my mind, and the minds of most Misfits fans, they will be remembered seperatly, as are Samhain & Undead. This band, these Misfits, are not THE Misfits, but that doesn't mean I'm going to carry a grudge against them. They're a band using some other band's name, but, assuming I can see them this time, they're the closet thing to the Misfits I'll ever get to see (until the Undead rolls through St. Louis). Roger Holmes, you have the right idea, screw this "I-gotta-be-punker-than-you" mentality! Tammy, that's unfair to say. I wouldn't have to continue defending myself here if you people would get it through your heads. Another new guy flaming Bobby, oh geez! I feel like the only guy Bobby didn't have to win over! Fiends, can't we all just get along? - J. ------------------------------ From: master.of.puppets@lunatic.ak.net Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 17:34:22 -0500 Subject: Jugheads Revenge There's a CD, I think the bands name is Jugheads revenge. Anyways one of the songs is London Dungeon w/I think Elvis Lyrics over them. ------------------------------ From: MR ANDY M CUSACK Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 01:28:20, -0500 Subject: First entry! Hey everybody! This is my first entry to the bible. I plan on being ACTIVE. I'm a big 'fits fan and I'll be talkin' to you guys a lot more. See ya! Blood and guts, ChUdFinK138 ------------------------------ From: MDPPix@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 02:24:03 -0400 Subject: Misfits on VH1??????????????????????? Hi The other day, well, not actually the other day, it was really earlier last week, a friend of mine turned on VH1 and said she saw something mentioned about the Misfits but then changed the channel 'cuz she doesn't like the Misfits. I ask 'cuz VH1 was doing that 7 days of the 70's thing and the 'Fits began in '77, so this is entirely possible. Any verification on this? 'Cuz if this is true I'm damn sorry I missed it C-ya Nick Chicken "We'll drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and fight!" -Buck-O-Nine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:32:34 +0000 From: Eddie Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #221 Arright, I've noticed a couple things that are damned stupid going on here: -Punk bashing. Too many posts here are down on punk. If you had said any of that shit at a Misfits show in '82, you'd've gotten beat down. So just give it a rest, it's stupid, you think you're so cool cuz you're not punk, well good for you now get over yourself. -Bobby Steele bashing- Bobby is a nicer, most deadicated, more sincere guy than any of the current members of the Misfits, so fuck all of you who make fun of him, he rules! He's stuck to his guns for years, and he's still down to earth enough to talk to people without a big ego trip on his part, which is more than I can say for Glenn. And, unlike Jerry, Bobby's been playing punk since he left the music, as opposed to playing metal(kryst the conqueror) then switching to punk when a buck was to be made. -Eddie ------------------------------ From: FIENDCLUB@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 23:54:16 -0400 Subject: misfits bible To all the people who attended the Cleveland show: I regret not being there. >From what I've heard everyone had a good time and i'm glad to hear that. I do however, want to reiterate the fact that it was my decision as well as the rest of the band's to go on to Cleveland without me. To completely cancel the show would have been wrong. Again, for not being able to be there, I apologize. You may send all complaints care of the Washington D.C. police force. I do not apologize for the events that took place at the The Capitol Ballroom in D.C. or anywhere else in regards to my supposed violent nature. Although I do not condone unnecessary violence, I was under the impression that we were playing punk rock shows. I did not realize we were romping through the magic garden. I would like to thank all the grandma's and grandpa's out there for letting me know that I should be playing nice with all the other boys and girls. When Mark started this bible, it was him and a handful of fans dedicated to the Misfits and their music. It has since degenerated into an ongoing free for all fight as to whats right and wrong. The Misfits have and always will do what they see as right for the band and it's fans. So the opinions of those who do not agree are just that--opinions---and have no bearing whatsoever to the band or it's true fans. Find something better to do with your time and somewhere else to direct your aggressions. Sounds to me like some of you must have problems at home and should find some kind of therapuetic hobbies. The fact that some of you feel the need to constantly and so vehemently vocalize publically about people and personal issues of whom you've never met and know nothing about, amazes and amuses me and the rest of the band. So many posts on this bible contain so much innacurate information it boggles the mind---on everything from our hair to our personal finances! I think we all need to remember what the Misfits are about -- and that is music. so if you like the Misfits cool--if you don't like the Misfits that's fine too. So I think everybody should come to the action park show and bungee jump naked. you'll feel alot better. love Michale Graves mark -- i'll bring the postcards to the show--it's easier----rachel mark--i'm still looking for the get away car---michale ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 11:50:25 -0400 Subject: dead milkmen tipitinas hey fiendies, i'm looking for a couple items. The same as that other guy said from last ish, the dead milkmen tipitinas new orleans show, with a kick ass astro zombies cover. also, that misfits creepy comp. sounds cool if anyone will tape that for me, hey, i'll even throw in $5. also, to all you minor threat fans on the bible, i got their live in dc show, it kicks ass, check it out. and it goes to show that you don't have to be old to be a misfits fan, i'm only 15 and my 20 year old brother has been getting me into bands like the dead kennedys and misfits since i was 9or 10. If it wasn't for him, i might have really poor listening tastes. chris ------------------------------ From: neil kaiser Subject: I WANT TO GO TO ACTION PARK! Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 09:33:48 -0400 (EDT) I really want to go to Action Park and or Asbury Park shows Are there any fiends from Poughkipsee (?)/ New Paltz area going? I would be so grateful... I would pay half gas and tolls... You'd have a friend for life... PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASEEEEEEEEEEEE???? *sung softly in the background* "Ain't too proud to beg" Ya see I gotta get to the Ap show cause Chud PROMISED he'd play Angelfuck for me (which was not played at either show I have seen) and I wanna go to Asbury Park to see the Misfits, Fear Factory, Deadguy, and Pro-Pain... I will love you forever... Help! If I can scrounge up some cash I can meet you at Albany bus station... ------------------------------ From: whiplash@juno.com Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 14:03:26 PST Subject: NCF >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:21:31 -0700 >From: Otto >Subject: Samhain >I was wondering if November-Coming-Fire is on CD. I've seen it on >vinal >but that's it. I've seen it on CD HellHound ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:20:57 -0400 (EDT) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Armbands, and Devilock (again?) Hey fruitcakes, A while back I wrote to you all to check out our new demo and recently Mark made a comment about it, so I thought I'd try to get you all interested again. We, DEVILOCK, have finished a new demo with the following songs: Halloween Horror Hotel Bullet London Dungeon Some Kinda Hate We dont make any money off of this, we just charge $4 for the cost of the tape and shipping, so if you'd like to check us out, e-mail me and I'll get one out to you as soon as I hear from ya. On another note, I am looking for anyone who is interested in selling one of the crimson ghost armbands that they have gotten from any of the recent shows. I have one myself and wear it when we play out, but I would really like to get a second one to round out the outfit. I'm willing to pay more than what you would think, so if you've got one, make me an offer. Thanks, and check out the new demo, its scrumpdillyishous. Later, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: whiplash@juno.com Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:05:40 PST Subject: Mephisto I just went to blockbuster and as I was Making my way to the register with "From Dusk Till Dawn" I had to pass through the forien film section. something caught my eye (and dragged it 15 feet ), it was a movie called Mephisto. Did anyone know this?? has anyone heard of this? The box said it's about an actor in Nazi Germany. It won best foriegn film in 1981. When was Mephisto waltz written? does anybody think that there is a connection or am I just grasping at straws? HellHound ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:54:36 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: Random Bullshit... -From the Western Gates of Hell: Tucson, AZ- Hey Fiends, Here's some random bullshit I wanted to comment on: What in the flying fuck was that stuff from "St. of Dreams" about Daily Devotional Guide? Weird... Justin: I know some people think if we ignore him, he'll stop his stuff, but probably not. All I have to say to you Justin is please try to keep your posts relevant to Misfits related topics. I don't care about your politics or ANYONE else's generally. If ya have something to say about the Misfits, horror films, Danzig, et cetera, great. Movies: I was wondering if any of you fiends have seen "Bordello of Blood" yet. Anything like "Horror Hotel"? ;P I haven't seen it yet, but as a comedian, I think Miller kicks ass. Also, I encourage y'all to see "Trainspotting." Awesome example of a quality film that CAN make it without following the formulaic Hollywood bullshit. VANDAL-X: Your post about the "punk" shit was right on--over reaction or not. I agree with your sentiments. The idea of being "Punk" (ie. not being a "conformist") is older than any punk band, just as being straight edge is way the fuck older than any Minor Threat song. (No offense, Minor Threat is prob. my favorite band). Just my opinion. I'll be seeing you, Ben(ito) ############################################################################## "We came here to wreck everything and ruin your life. God sent us." -Sonny, ROMPER STOMPER ############################################################################## ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 18:04:05 -0700 From: JUSTIN WILLIAMS <77danzig@address.net> Subject: MISFITS Anyone got the Vid, for Aug 17 '96MISFITS IN LOS ANGELES!!!!!!!!! I'll buy it e-mail me or the Vid for DANZIG halloween '92 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:06:49 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Writing songs the hard way... Hello fiends... look out cause i got a new activity to play in. This is for everyone to do, if you have a band or have never written a song in your life. I have seen that some of you come up with funny little songs from time to time that have to do with the bible and the Misfits. Well now i got a topic and a twist for you. This is the deal, When the original Misfits were on tour in England with the Damned, or it was when they were with the Clash, Glenn was arrested and tossed into jail. Well 15 years later in DC. new lead singer Michale gets arrested and tossed in jail too. Glenn when was in jail and it is said that this experience was the inspiration for the song London Dungeon. Well if Michale was inspired while he was locked up there should be a song. Now its your turn, you don't have to serve jail time, but you get a shot at writing that song. Best two songs get copies (now way in hell that you get my originals) of some of my rarest Misfits flyers, ***PLUS THIS IS TO MICHALE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HELP JUDGE THIS ONE LET ME KNOW, AND I'LL SEND YOU THE SONGS TO LOOK OVER AND PICK THE BEST TWO.*** Also, Mark if you would like to come and play to you are welcome to do so. How long do you have, i'll be nice 2 weeks from this Mondays issue, 10pm and it will be posted in the issue after that. So lets see what your made of, cause i know there are a lot of you in bands and a lot of you like to sing. e-mail songs to (tes777@bridge.net). Good luck to all. Next, Otto, damn i feel bad for you, wisdom teeth right, so far i've been lucky and have not had to deal with that, but all my friends spent the week sucking food through straws. Also November Coming Fire is on CD, its been for a couple of years. On to, the guitar thing and Doyle, some people seem lost on this. If i'm a bit off it could be since there are so many stories to what had happened. 1982, San Francisco, the Elite Club, lots of people were throwing beer cans or bottles (i heard the story with both) at all the bands that night. I've heard that Doyle got hit with one, and i heard that Doyle just got pissed because the beer was being thrown at the Misfits, he took his guitar and hit this kid in the head. the kid did not die, and some say that there is video footage of the show and the incident. I have not seen that footage. Mark, if you know more or different please let us know. To funny, only on the MB can you have a guy flame and offend lot of races, colors and such, turn around and be upset that the fiends are calling him a NAZI. This is to much!!! *JUSTIN NO ONE WANTED TO JUDGE YOU, YOU SET YOURSELF UP WITH WHAT YOU SAID.* PATRICIA, i loved the story and please tell us more of it!!! Chubbs, your right Glenn took a lot of ideas, though copying the type style from Famous Monster of Film land was not his worst, plus i think they took it from an old horror movie. The mag is not as old as the other mags of the time, it was from 1958 and there are other mags i have that are older. the Movie the Undead had the a similar look, and it came out earlier than the Famous Monster mag. So he could have taken it from that for all we know. i figure at least he had good taste in what he took. but with the situation you are talking about, if he copyrighted it then it is his. if the letters are different from the originals than he could get away with it. well its been real as always. Later to all the fiendies!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 21:25:28 PST Subject: It's The Drugs Talking . . . From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) >From: gjbao@sonic.net (Otto) > >Okay, sorry Bobby I guess it just sounded funny to me. I just had 4 >pulled out so I was in a bit of a bad mood. Same with the theme for a The old BLAME IT ON THE DRUGS defense . . . Apology accepted. >From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com >Subject: stuff > >truss rod he is using (the steel rod down the middle of most necks on >guitars) is not strong enough to support heaver gauge strings. For all I >guitars might not even have truss rods. . . He >should use the Dick Dale string set. Fucking Thick! When I was still in the band, Doyle's guitar had .013 strings. When you consider that most guitarists use .009/.010 strings . . . > This whole starving artist thing everyone keeps talking > about is the biggest load of shit I ever heard. RIGHT ON! I'm sick of people condemning musicians for making almost as much as the well paid cooks at McDonalds. > >From: LastBastardOfRock > >Pedophile(sung to attitude) > >pedophile > >if you don't spread your legs >he's gonna make you sick > >I'm kidding bobby. > oops i said kid. hide the children. Was that YOUR sister? : o) >From: ChristoTer@aol.com >Subject: Manowar, Bobby, schtuff >Anyway, Fiend guy, listen, why don't you pick up an Undead release >Die goes for 7 bucks) and see what kind of glam rock that is. It is >that you that are making me seriously consider unsubscribing. Don't give him the pleasure. >From: Gabriel Palczewski >Subject: My Retort >he can be just as >good with Jerry's Kryst The Conqueor. Its Glenn's Misfits and always >will be in my mind. Legal or not, Glenn started it and should still hold >the right to finish it. Not Bobby Steele, Not Jerry Only. This is a very good point. Musically, KRYST was a good record. The lyrics sucked. From what I've heard about BLACK LIGHT - and I haven't seen the lyrics or heard the song yet, myself - Michale may well be able to take over providing the words . . . whatever the band name. >From: vandal@aloha.net >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #220 >"punk"? PUNK HAS BECOME A CONFORMITY OF NON-CONFORMISTS Like a sign in a book store in San Francisco in '83 queried . . . Are punk rockers just a bunch of boring young farts? >From: Eddie >Subject: Re: stupid stupid STUPID people > >-Eddie, who shops(or shop lifts) wherevers cheapest A guy I knew used to save $1.50 every day by running home from work alongside the bus. I suggested he could save $8.00 if he ran alongside a cab. >From: Daniel Rodrigues >Subject: To Bobby > I want to say this to bobby it is sumthin I have wanted to say >a while. > YOU DONT NEED THE MISFITS! >The undead is a great band and you shine in that band. It bothers how >people are >your best friend now cuz before you were here there was no support for That's because they didn't know. That's why I came here. I wasn't sure if I'd get anywhere with this, but I'm grateful as hell for all the new support I've been getting. You can't condemn people for realizing that they've been misled. >I and Mark and a few others were the only ones who supported you here. And through your help and support, we've converted lots of new followers. Let's keep up the good work. I don't want to turn this into a "bash Jerry" bible. I get sick when I see people rip into Glenn's talent. You can't deny his talent. Without him; none of this would've ever happened. It's thier attitude toward me that we should be working on. I can't recall ever doing anything to any of them that could've precipitated what's happened over the past 15 years. If they'd tell me; maybe I'd apologize . . . or point out the misunderstanding. > Man who cares about all that shit that has happened to you, Ask Scooter. > get on the gravy train and bring the Undead back! later Get a fuckin' bass or drums and get your ass up here. Don't forget dinner. >From: Teevie Alan >Subject: More Sloppy Homework > >>From: Patrick R Whittle > >That "fat guy" is actually Danny, the ex-guitarist, who was in the band >at the time of the Eagles 7" release. Sounds to me on that record that >Bobby was playing along with Danny, as well as swapping verses with >BA. >Danny since got booted and replaced by a guy named Ace. DR Danny Roadkill is probably the best guitarist to ever play in a punk band. When they opened for THE UNDEAD in '90, I saw him do a flip and land - sitting on the edge of the stage while playing the solo to JANIE IS A NAZI (a song about Justin's sister). When I was hanging out with him I heard him play some incredible shit. From what I hear; he's now got his own band. It's more of a rockn'roll band, but without ever hearing them, I can assure you it's gotta be amazing. From what I heard, the split was mutual. They're all still friends. It just doesn't look the same with Ace. He's way too skinny for that band. BTW they're some of the nuttiest guys I've ever worked with. >From: Ken Ward >Subject: Hold on I think I have to puke, there's a spot in the corner. > >That's why I hate Juno! I would be like weare139@juno.com =) No offense, >users (esp. Bobby!) NOW YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR. JUNO is great. JUNO is god, and g.g., in one. I would be very careful if I were you. KNEECAPS ARE FRAGILE ! ! ! ; ) >RE: Doyle's devilock toupee >>> instead of using all the hair products like spray and gel. >Is this another solemn Bobby crack? Leave him alone. I think he meant Doyle doesn't want his hair to look like Jerry's . . . if ya know what I mean. Jerry used more sprays than me. He used gels too. They have very fair, fine hair. >>>>wouldn't i look cool with my paws encased in the skull-and-crossbones >>>>gloves glen wore . . . >You can find a pair for $4 . . . Do like Glenn. Paint 'em yourself. If you can't afford it . . . GET JUNO ; ) >Fuck you, little Green Day Offspring poseur fascist maggoty cunt >prick. LOL > . . . any live stuff with Doyle from that era. I do have a question, >improved his live playing? .From the video I saw I'd say DEFINITELY. You have to remember, he was only about 16 when he replaced me. He wasn't ready. Do you want to hear ME when I was 16? I don't think so. If you can get a copy of the KRYST E.P., you can get a good idea of how he sounds now. >From: "Jess C. Cyphers" >Subject: jerry at chiller theatre, glenns gloves, mephisto waltz, type >Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:02:01 -0400 > > hmm its funny that you mention jerry selling autographs and >posters at a chiller theatre opening, when i say him at the opening of >boonton, he was giveing out free autographed posters and stickers, he >even gave me an extra of each for my friend. sometimes i wonder if he >must have multiple personalities... I was a little out of line there. I didn't actually SEE Jerry selling autographs at the spring '93 CT. I just had a few people TELL ME that they saw him doing it. I try to avoid using hearsay, but I slipped there. I DID see him selling polaroids at the Halloween Chiller Theater. Maybe it was because it was more of a 'promotional' Grand Opening of the store thing, and Kevin didn't want him to sell anything. He doesn't need the money. >From: Patricia Ragan Hoehner >Subject: the sid and jerry connection > >. Bobby on the other hand, had been around longer than >Jerry and was in fact VERY friendly with Sid and actually was the >person Sid invited to his "get out of jail free" party. I met Sid once. He saw me play guitar in THE WHORELORDS, which was the band I played in just before THE MISFITS. I met him after the set, and smoked a joint. I never ran into him again. In fact, this was after Nancy got killed. My impression of him was that there was no way he could've killed Nancy. It took him two-minutes to lift a half empty Heinekin off the Bar. He was so skinny and weak. It's not easy shoving a knife into someones body. After I joined the MISFITS, I went to see the POLICE at some hotel ballroom in midtown. This English guy that was apparently working with one of the bands came over and asked if I was Bobby Steele. He said he'd heard I was really good on the guitar. When I asked where he heard that - he said Paul Simonon said Sid Vicious told him. >Jerry and Glenn ended up going and not telling Bobby they were going, >, and took him over to Michele's (sids new gal--a friend of Bobbys!)without >collecting Bobby. I think she knew Jerry. I met Michelle on Sid's B'day, after he was killed. She was trying to O.D., but I kept fuckin' up her shot so she wouldn't have enough. That's when we became friends. Everyone thought she killed Sid, and they called her Michelle Murder. I had friends saying "please don't kill Bobby" whenever we left the Mudd Club together. She used to slash her wrists and people would say shit like "don't do that to yourself", "why do you want to kill yourself" and she just kept doing it. I told her "hey that's cool, do it again" and she never did it again. >after Jerry was very solicitous to Mother Vicious, and drove her around >and did whatever for her. She was this helpless hippie lady. When they >went to England Jerry looked her up and hung out with her (yeech) . And left me alone in a hotel cellar with nothing to eat but this stew that looked like Dog Food. Glenn ran off and stayed with this rich guy that wanted to manage us because we looked so cool. His brother owned the hotel that I was staying in. Joey had left for New York. >If you want, you should check with Bobby on this story. Its a good >one. (the Sid back up band thing). According to the SOHO NEWS, Sid wanted the guitarist and bass player from THE MISFITS to be in his backup band. >I dont care much for Bobbys guitar style, WHAT ? ! ? !? !? !? >From: ERIK LINDBERG >Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:17:51, -0500 >Subject: Misfits of Ska > >Filmland. If anyone out there has a better understanding of this law >than I do, please explain this. What Glenn did was BORROW from the Famous monsters logo. He didn't name us FAMOUS MONSTERS. In reality, if they claim the Misfits Of Ska title was done in parody - Glenn won't have a case. It wasn't as if they were trying to deceive the public. He wouldn't be entitled to any monetary damages. BTW does Glenn really still own the name? According to the RESURECTION poster, Jerry does. At the bottom of the poster it says TM and copyright CYCLOPEAN MUSIC. I though Jerry said that Glenn owned the name and Jerry was just allowed to use it. >From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO >Subject: shout outs >Secondly to Bobby Steele: I know we had words in the past but I just >gotta say I must have misjudged you. I heard two live shows from >when you were in the Misfits and the sound, especially the guitar, >was incredible. If you ever have any tips for an aspiring maniac who >happens to play guitar, I'd be glad to hear them. DON'T JOIN THE MISFITS ! ! ! >Also, I've been >reading your posts lately and I been saying to myself, this guy ain't >so bad after all. I still love the Misfits but what happened between >you guys is exactly that...between you guys. If enough of you told Jerry that I should get my money, I can guarantee you he will do it. You could actually be doing him a favor. > First stop...the Undead. No need to apologize. You post was apology enough. Thanks. as for advice . . . Believe in yourself and nothing can stop you. Don't let anyone bend you in a direction you don't want to take. In the words of a great philosopher 'You can't please everyone, so you gotta please yourself'. (hey CG. Trivia question) >From: MR HAROLD W JAFFE >Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:22:49, -0500 >Subject: bobby... > >bobby steele, i have one thing to ask you. Even after you leave the >misfits why do you think you still should be performing their songs? Why shouldn't I? I also do EVE OF DESTRUCTION and LIES. I only play songs that I absolutely love doing. I just happen to love playing those songs. I have no more, or less, right than anybody else to play those songs. >when dead kennedys broke up did jello perform their songs in lard? >when minor threat broke up did ian keep playing minor threat songs >while in fugazi? how about rollins, when he made rollins band were >they playing black flag songs? Maybe they didn't want to do those songs. > Why can't you get it through your head, that you were in the misfits >for all of 2 >years, yet you still think that you are in them? qhy >can't you just play your own >songs? why don't you just call undead >misfits 2? Of three of those people that you've mentioned Ian and Henry both said that THE UNDEAD are the only New York Band worth shit. Jello always asks for a copy of THE UNDEAD's records. He's always been very supportive to me. YOU are just being ignorant. How about when THE MISFITS did BLUE CHRISTMAS and RATT FINK? >From: Scott <> >Subject: Gabri-elle Palczewski and other assholes >Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 04:53:59 -0400 > >This is my first letter to the bible, having just become a subscriber. >letters. I'M ONLY GONNA SAY THIS ONCE-if some of you fake fiends have >a fetish for that clown Bobby Steele - then contact him through his own >address. DO YOU HEAR THAT MICHALE ? > For those of you duped into believing he's a serious musician-just look >Undead Page . . . He can't even write his own songs. Wake up fiends- quit = >making him feel more important than he is. There must have been a = >reason he was canned so quickly. Thanks for the well-informed opinion. Does your mommy know you're using her computer? >. . . your boy Bobby putting down Jerry in the zines is because the >know that hardly any body ever heard of the sorry ass Undead and the >few who have don't want to hear him cry. Anyone have any doubts as to the kind of reaction Jerry's and Glenn's comments can cause? Thank you. thank you thank you for proving my case. I never could've done it without you. >For Michale-I think it's really cool that you take the time to add your = >two cents to this page. It really is nice to see you actually care BUT WHY DO YOU DEFEND THAT ASSHOLE, FUCKIN CUNT? >From: Rick Hambright >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #219 LOL > I haven't seen one show that hit 80s punk. How often do you hear shit like PURPLE HAZE, WHITE RABBIT and a lot of the hits of that era on the oldies station? They just skip to DISCO. They never want to promote the 'wild stuff'. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Misfits Bible, Number 223 Wednesday, August 28th 1996 Today's Topics: For Sale: Earth A.D. Gold CD another dorky misfits sighting die die last issue Re: Misfits Bible, #222 Miscellany math... hahaha hmmm.... Re: Misfits Bible, #222 Re: Misfits Bible, #222 The real meaning of 138 !#* To all so called fiends another post from j blah. Undead CDs Jock itch is no joke From J. Re: Misfits Bible, #222 hum? X-files, misfits? Koolaid What the Bible is meant to be?? Plan 9 Dead?? . Mephisto/Mephisto waltz Boots and stuff Famous Monsters of Filmland Devilock Straight from the horse's mouth, not the horse's patoot. Kansas Bobby Okay okay! new danzig album sXe fiends, that new paltz guy san diego, san bernadino, hollywood, etc. Saturday crimson Strange things a foot, or a toe... Letter to Bible Re: Misfits Bible, #222 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:33:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Holford Subject: For Sale: Earth A.D. Gold CD Due to the fact that I need to get my car out of the shop and need as much cash as I can get I have decided to sell my Earth A.D. Gold Cd. The cd is in great condition except for one small thing, on the cover booklet in the corner is a small hole from a pushpin from when it was tacked up to a wall. But besides that, it's in great condition. I would like to get $75 for it, so please e-mail any replies to: jholford@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Thanks..... -={Jon}=- ------------------------------ Subject: another dorky misfits sighting Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:38:58 GMT From: Larry Fuller In lieu of recent misfit-type sightings, I thought I'd add another one to the list. This past friday, I was watching a rerun of the X Files (the episode entitled Quagmire). I was about some sea monster. Anyway, during a scene change, the next thing you see is the Misfits bumpersticker (w/ the C.G.) on some pothead's VW van. Since this was a rerun & I missed about three months of Bibles, I thought I'd post this. Also, lets cut out all this "Bobby Steele is this and that stuff" and leave the guy alone. "feeling the hatred of all damned in hell....." warmachine@centuryinter.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:32:39 +0000 From: fennellw@bc.edu Subject: die die die die...12" it is probably a reprint ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:33:01 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last issue >bend you in a direction you don't want to take. In the words of a great >philosopher 'You can't please everyone, so you gotta please yourself'. >(hey CG. Trivia question) Garden Party - Ricky Nelson?? And how Ironic it is... No matter how good you are, you're all gonna die. ------------------------------ From: _ Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #222 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:19:36 -0400 (EDT) > From: Otto > Subject: my 12" > > I just got the Die, Die my Darling 12" from a record store near my house > that I only recently discovered. I don't know what color vinal it is > because I have'nt opened the plastic yet. Any suggestions? Does anyone > else have this? I got it for $7.50. Open it. It's a black vinyl repressing from the 90's. > From: "::datskat::" > Subject: none. skip this post > > looking for copies of 2 96 shows: 9:30 Club, DC 5/1/96 and Capitol Ballroom, > DC 8/3/96 (think i saw a clip of this one on COPS). speak to me if you can > assist in my search. > From: Christoter@aol.com > The Discography will leave you numb. Actually, I had a guy try to sell me a > "first press" CD for $50 because it had a different address on it....what's > that about, Mark? Just one pressing, but all Plan 9 stuff is out of print... $50 is silly though. > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:05:03 PST > Subject: Kids > From: Scott R Tiemeyer > > Does Jerry, Doyle, Chudd, or Graves have any kids. The reason I ask is Jerry's got 2. However, that video you're referring to (Eagles Lodge, 9/26/82 Kalamazoo, MI) does not include any of Jerry's kids. That kid is just another kid in the audience. > cuz on this video I got of em' this little kid gets helped on stage by > Doyle, I was just wondering if that was one of the band members > kids....if so lucky kid! > From misfit@slinknet.com > > No testing has overtaken you that is not common to everyone. G** is > >faithful, and he will not let you be tested beyond your strength, but with > >the testing he will also provide the way out so that you may be able to > >endure it. > > What the fuck is this shit? That post was definately not Misfits related in > ANY way! Hey Mark do you screen ANY of this stuff before you put it in? Actually I usually screen every single message, but that one just slipped by. I deleted their second attempt though. > From fiendclub@aol.com > mark--i'm still looking for the get away car---michale Hey! I was at the side entrance, NOT the front.... mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:11:34 -0700 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Miscellany I know a guy who claims to (at least passingly) know the guy that Doyle hit in the head with a guitar. He's not dead. He did go to the hospital. He doesn't like the Misfits very much any more. I dunno about this "Glenn sueing the Misfits of Ska" thing. So far as I know, Jerry & Co. now have rights to use the name, and they own the trademark to the logo (which would be the important thing here). It would have to be the current Misfits doing any lawsuit. NEIL ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:30:51 +0200 Subject: math... >always been on the side of the majority. He put it like this: "If you >have 200 people and 99 wanted the fucking wall painted blue and 100 >wanted the fucking wall painted yellow, Jello would be the one who >wanted it yellow Hey now! who forgot to vote? that only makes 199 :) -greg ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:07:18 +0200 Subject: hahaha >A guy I knew used to save $1.50 every day by running home from work >alongside the bus. I suggested he could save $8.00 if he ran alongside >a cab. hey! that's funny.. (no, that's not sarcasm.) -greg *** Talk to me over the 'Net! *** Iphone address: Dorin@pub1.ipn.vocaltec.com ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:21:10 +0200 Subject: hmmm.... >BUT WHY DO YOU DEFEND THAT ASSHOLE, FUCKIN CUNT? mr steele: is this being said about Michale Graves? I don't get it if it is... what'ss the deal? -greg *** Talk to me over the 'Net! *** Iphone address: Dorin@pub1.ipn.vocaltec.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:04:31 -0400 From: wake Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #222 >>Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:21:31 -0700 >>From: Otto >>Subject: Samhain > >>I was wondering if November-Coming-Fire is on CD. I've seen it on >vinal >>but that's it. > >November-Coming-Fire is out on CD. I never saw it either until a >month ago. I bought it used at a record shop for $10. The catalog >number is PL9-CD07. NCF has been out on cd for some time now, i've seen it everywhere and i've had it in my posession for well over four years...so if any of you want it, and can't find it, let me know and i can get a copy of it for you... wake... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:14:57 -0400 From: wake Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #222 >From: whiplash@juno.com >Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:05:40 PST >Subject: Mephisto > >I just went to blockbuster and as I was Making my way to the register >with "From Dusk Till Dawn" I had to pass through the forien film >section. something caught my eye (and dragged it 15 feet ), >it was a movie called Mephisto. Did anyone know this?? has anyone heard >of this? The box said it's about an actor in Nazi Germany. It won best >foriegn film in 1981. When was Mephisto waltz written? does anybody >think that there is a connection or am I just grasping at straws? > >HellHound i've seen i