Misfits Bible, Number 231 Monday, September 16th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #230 misfits bible post That piece of string again... I will no longer post whole bunch of shit!! Shut the fuk up music anti-whine meds; cost of CD's; note for Bobby S. RE: Misfits Bible, #230 @#%&^*%^ Re: Misfits Bible, #230 Re: Misfits Bible, #230 bye LIES,LIES,LIES Re: Misfits Bible, #230 Misc. Reply's The Misfits online game!! waaaaaaaaaaaaa...... stuff Miscellaneous Sit down, shut-up, and let me have my friggin' minute! Looking for Live Danzig Danzig signing tribute? scooby bootlegs Re: Misfits Bible, #230 blackacidevil What has the Bible come to????? You talkin' to me? Exorcised EAD Danzig Set List: Danzig--Philadelphia 9/15 No longer that nice little fiend... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: z Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #230 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:01:46 -0400 (EDT) > From: Misfit4798@aol.com > > more question for Mark, is there any sort of "the longest subscriber has > priority" when it comes to the Bible t-shirt sales or is it first ordered, > first served? There are no priority lists on this one... if you get your $ in once they're up for sale, it's yours. mark ------------------------------ From: jermz@gvtc.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:51:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: misfits bible post hmm, just a thought, look, why dont you make BOTH shirt designs available to fiends??? jeremy ------------------------------ From: J.Baldry@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:46:10 GMT Subject: That piece of string again... As I was accused of misquoting Crimson Ghost originally (which I didn't actually do) I thought I'd quote him directly from his post on the last Bible. 'I WILL NOT post again' - no conditions and no exceptions were given to this statement. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 05:08:01 -0500 From: Misfit Subject: I will no longer post Say, CG when are you gonna stop posting that "I'm not gonna post" message?!? Anyway, that over with...WOW do I have a bunch of shit to catch up on. Sorry but I had to redesign my Web Site and my BBS. Not that anyone really missed me . What is this shit with the gold CD going for $75!?! Fuck, you people are insane! I didn't pay $75 for my Samhain "Unholy Passion" and you guys are going to pay that much for a CD I pawned for $2 at a pawn shop in Lakewood, Colorado!! I was starving, sorry. Not only that, I have seen this CD around Denver, Little Rock, and Dallas at chain stores guys!! It's out of print, but they haven't sold all of them yet! Look around, and save yourself $55! > Plan 9 will definitely be disbanded for a >bit and Glenn will be releasing his stuff on Hollywood Records (if I >remember correctly). Is that his own label? or just another small label? >Cause I got a Suicide Machines CD and they are on Hollywood Records. Hollywood is a subsidiary of Disney. The Dead Milkmen released their last few LP's on Hollywood also. It is definately NOT Glenn's baby. >voted for the current winner for the bible t-shirt.. It kind of makes >the bible look like a bunck of wanna be computer geek / slash/ fiends. >are we fiends or geeks? I'm a fiend, I don't know about you.. Yes I am a fiend, and yes I have become a computer geek. Sorry to disappoint ya, but I cut off my devilock when I was 17. And who says I can't be both? More immaturity from kiddos who need to be stereotyped. >Mark says: dvnkd@juno.com >Tammy says: dvnkd@ix.netcom.com Ken says: http://www.slinknet.com/~misfit >out there. DOA, Fear, Circle Jerks, Black Flag, i heard that he was in the >Weirdo's but i'm not sure if that was true. if you want to hear him >playing the guitar check out the Repoman soundtrack, he plays guitar with >the Circle Jerks, and he was in the movie too. i remember they did a live >play of that song in the movie if i'm right on that. the song was When the >Shit Hits the Fan. Chuck was never in the Weirdos. Although Flea was in the Weirdos, FEAR, etc... And yes, they do play When the Shit Hits the Fan, although it is the lounge version, and not the hardcore version. Bobbidy-do-wop-say-what-yeah! Irritating! >>LloyD, the image in the pin you are describing was a design used for one of >the original Misfits Flyers, though the pin itself does not sound familiar I had that pin! It's like brown, right? I got it from Concert Express, you know...20 buttons for $20. >Is the gold Earth AD CD THAT rare? I see people selling it for $75+. My >question is are people buying it for that price? I guess I am happy I only >had to pay $6 for it. Let me guess...Kendall and W Colfax Avenue, right? Give me my damn CD back! It's mine! I want my $55 profit!!! >Everyone remembers the cartoon show Scooby-Doo from their early >childhood, right? But something you may not remember is what the show was >really all about. As I've gotten older, it has become more clear to me This is by far the FUNNIEST FUCKING POST I have ever seen!!! Not Misfits related, well kinda, cause see some of those monsters I swear turned up on bootleg 7"s in the late '80's. But right on, it was funny! >P.S. I'm selling tapes of the boxed set for $.05 a shot. Call me at >1-800-wet-clit Wes, I called, but your Mom said you weren't there, wow did she get me off! Tammy, where's MY fucking video?!? Can I get it please?? It's only been ....... Oh, and you will probably need my new address. Bobby, if you don't get The Undead together by tomorrow and play East Texas by Monday night, I am going to go and rob a bank, buy a new bass rig, relocate to the Lower East Side, and become your bassist whether you like it or not. That's all I have to say. Oh, and if I do, can I stay in your air-conditioned pad? I wouldn't wanna have to become the second person there to buy one. :) I won't apologise about the length of this post. I only post every four to six issues now, so bite me! Anok! =-=-=-==-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Always available by the following means: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.slinknet.com/~misfit TDP Net/Misfit's Punk Planet Web Site misfit@slinknet.com Primary personal e-mail misfit@txk.net Secondary personal e-mail misfits_punk_planet_bbs@juno.com BBS-related e-mail (501) 772-1832 Misfit's Punk Planet BBS 58:1000/0.0 TDPNet HUB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 13 SEP 96 08:37:59 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: whole bunch of shit!! wes thomas! "AZ, keep your posts to one line or get out." "AZ, you wouldn't know a real punk if one came up and bit you in the anus you fuckin' loser." hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! "dalton@platte.com" >But if you're talking >about taping, then where's the harm? Are you saying that we should never >tape a musicians work? Or ask for a tape from someone else who has >something that I want to hear? Or make a tape for someone else because >they would like to hear something that they don't have? That's stealing? its illegal. the songs are a work of art. if you duplicate that art without compensating the artist, its stealing. i didnt mean to start such a frenzy on this whole thing, and i'll be the first to admit, as i did in my original post, that i dub plenty of CDs, but usually reserve it to artist that dont need my fucking money, ala, REM, Metallica, Greenday, etc. You can call me a hypocrite if you want, i call it stealing from the Rich and Giving to the Poor (me!) if you trade or buy bootleg, its not illegal, only selling them is (under federal law) Evil Dieff - yea, i was hard on Ms. Laura. I paid $52 for my box set, so my pin only cost $2 :). I forget what the name of the 45 Grave CD is. I will look it up when I get home and email you from there. If you still need that Tunomatic, let me know. Whats your rig like? Chris Ternes - ", I'm glad someone has something intelligent to say....that is until that Earth AD thing...." I was busting on all the people who look at Earth AD on CD as if it was the holy grail or something. $75 is a ton of money for 20 minute disc. I paid $12 for it brand new when it came out. If I play my cards right, this might put my kids through college! I guess if your a collector, but its "utility" value aint that high, especially cause you get it in the box set and that whole thing costs $55. Bobby wrote about hollywood records "It's a division of DISNEY, that christian family values corporation. The president is Peter Paterno - Glenn's former lawyer." its funny, cause the I believe 2 or 3 major US churches, including the Baptists, have boycotted Disney because of their "anti-family" practices, like actually allowing homosexuals into their theme park, and making a movie about a priest who molests kids (that never happens in real life). And now they have Danzig ...... the rest of you can all french kiss my asshole. ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:35:36 +1100 Subject: Shut the fuk up Hi every one Warhammer here What the hell is all this shit being talked on the bible? To the persons ripping on the fits and saying we need to get lives take a look in the fukin mirror. Anyone who has to sit there and think of ways to rip on the true fiends on the bible has less then a life. I am a college student who works at a job don't you ever try to tell me I don't have a fukin life I obviously mistr have more then you do mister Alien Man or whatever the fuk your name is. This is a forum where true Misfits fiends look to get information about the fits and Danzig and other related bands. So if you don't like it go the fuk away unsubscribe I am sure Mark would be more then happy to oblige that request. There are enough true fiends here to comprise a large militia and then there are the true losers who sit there and pick their asses while trying to figure out how to piss 700+ people off. We don't need lives your sorry ass does. We are dedicated to the music that is the origin of this bible. We are true fiends we all love the Misfits. Just because your pissed off that you can't get a piece of ass (or whatever your motivation is) does not mean we suck. This goes for Wes"I have never said anything intelligent that was'nt said to me first"Thomas . Wake up pal we don't give a shit about your fukin red truck ,ok. I Love the Misfits' music and I know there are others here that are just as dedicated. Also Adam 7 I really don't think we care to know that you are one pissed off transvestite because the only good transvestite is Dr. Frank N. Furter from The Rocky Horror Picture show. And you really have no right to rip on Tammy or Bobby aso just shut the fuk up. I am gone but I will return again. The Warhammer "I want your skulls, I need your skulls" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:08:59 -0700 From: KLRWLF Subject: music I'm looking for several things, maybe some of you fiends could help me, 1. high quality videos of old AND new Misfits concerts (I already have CREEPY COMPILATION) 2. I have the green and the red vinyl of collection II, I'm looking for a copy of the clear vinyl 3. Vinyl of Samhain and Danzig Please e-mail to personal account, don't go through the MB R.I.P. KLRWLF ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:22:58 -0400 From: Rick McClinton Subject: anti-whine meds; cost of CD's; note for Bobby S. > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:01:35 -0400 (EDT) > From: XxAlien ManxX > Subject: New Danzig album INFO!! > > I used to be a big fan of the misfits and plan9 and all that stupid > fucking crap that goes along with the misfits... Ed wood, old stupid > movies, dumb themes... don't you people FUCKING get it.. it was a joke. > It was to be funny.. just another STUPID not much talent band ..that plays > music.. and had fun. BUT MOST ALL OF THE LOSERS that read this fucking > BIBLE act like it is the most important fucking thing in the world... Uh.. Isn't that the ***POINT*** of this list? This list is for the discussion of the Misfits. It is not the place to point out to people that you think you have a real life. It is the mailing list on which to obsess on the Misfits. If you're not a fan, why be a subscriber? I fail to see Glenn Danzig as stupid or talentless. Or funny. Not saying he's deadly serious, but there's more than two sides to that angle. If you would like to discuss anything BESIDES the Misfits, please go back to Usenet. > From: vandal@aloha.net > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:51:48 -1000 (HST) > Subject: Concerning "Stealing" & 2 MISFIT ?'s > > OK, but don't you also think that record companies steal from us by > selling CDs at a 100% or more markup from the cost of manufacture??? When > CDs first came out, they promised a decrease in price. Prices have actually > gone up. Who's robbing who? Uh.. If the companies only charged as much for CD's as it cost to make them, what would they give the artist? CD Manufacturing costs have dropped, yes. CD store prices had fallen slightly or remained nearly the same, I have never heard repots of the price increasing, and that's not what I see at the store. What this allows for is making smaller batches of a CD and still being able to turn a profit. This means that many LP's that were out of print for years due to low demand can be more easily re-released on CD. And that labels with large distribution can more easily sign low-volume acts. The companies have to turn a profit to stay in business to put out more music for me to listen to. On the other hand we don't really want to support fat cat executives and company jets, but there are tradeoffs in everything. The number of CD's in print concurrently is approaching the number of albums ever produced. Of course the fact that most of these Cd's SUCK is beside the point. And I get all my info from Wired anyway, so WHAT DO I KNOW?? If you like an album, you'll buy the CD cos that tape just wears out, ya know? I just think it's pretty tacky to offer tapes of a band's CD or to request same on a public mailing list that members and ex members of the band in question read!!! This post is too fucking long. Shoot me. Oh, while I'm posting: Bobby Steele -- do YOU (or anyone else around here) know how the 'beep beep' during DDMD is actually made? The sound like someone flipping the pickup selector between an on and an off pickup during a big feedback session? I assume it was totally overdubbed on the album. Oh, and if you want your 'Boogins' shirt back (I was told it was yours.. it was found at the 9:30 club like 7 years ago at an Undead show) it doesent fit me anymore. And which of your albums do YOU like best? CU, Rick M. Centreville, VA rmcclint@tmac.com Tes did you *GET* my song contest entry??? ------------------------------ From: Scott Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #230 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:12:51 -0400 Yo fiends- Ok-time to let me off the hook. I know someone out there taped the = action park show. Please tell me someone taped it . C'mon - I know = someone has it , just name your price-I really want it. Also-if there = are any fiends who live around Pittsburgh and love the Misfits and want = to be in a band-e-mail me. I play Bass and would like to meet some other = fiends interested in hooking up. Sorry Bobby we don't need any skinny = old geeks. Aaaaahh-I'm just kidding,man I couldnt resist. Yes, my mommy = does know I'm using her computer-she said it was OK if I didn't talk to = "Asshole Fuckin' Cunts" so please don't respond. OK thats enough. No = hard feelings-there's enough of those in the last post-you guys should = lighten up a liitle. Shit was getting pretty vicious.Oh well-hope to = have an action park video this time next week- Fangs, Scoots ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:59:43 -0400 Subject: @#%&^*%^ AZ: what i ment by that was if you make a dub for somebody and you charge them for more than tapes, and shipping. i wasn't saying by the misfits charging that much they were stealing. but, for some people it might be a little steep. so , what's wrong with them having somebody make a FREE copy? i think as long as no money is being made it's okay for somebody to get a dubbed copy(that was free) rather than go out a buy a bootleg or something. dalton: i agree with you totaly. all you guys who have buying cd's on your list of priorities are seriously screwed up. or maybe you just don't have to pay for things like food, rent, etc...? and none of you seem to slam people having their auctions or whatever. do you think they're giving the difference of what they payed and what they made off of the stuff to the bands? i don't think so. i could care less myself but did you attack the guy who asked $75 for earth ad? happy friday the 13th!!! D.EVIL ------------------------------ From: KOSIEKKJ@AXP.CALUMET.PURDUE.EDU Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:18:53 +0000 (CENTRAL) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #230 Latlely I have noticed some bullshit between adam(seven) and tammy. what the fuck is all this shit about, How the hell can two people that don't even know each other hate each other so much. Unless you two are really bisexual lovers that really know each other! This shit better stop Tammy it looks like a tough spot you either go on a date with adam or show him the pictures of you and your dog. Either way I want you to fucks to shut the hell up and Tammy quit your bithing. To wetthomas: Go ahead tuogh guy and end it I'm not afraid of you! or your pussy threats. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:44:24 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #230 Dear Foramen Vena Cava's, Dave Asselin, you are fat and have kooties. Nannie nannie foo foo. I am so sorry we don't add up to YOUR standards. All in all, I know what you are but what am I? Kurtz, you damn British buttpirate. Fuck you and your people asshole. I hope one day America comes to it's senses and nukes your bitch ass off the planet. John Ward, you wouldn't happen to be the same John Ward that wittnessed when Keil beat Paul Lapis with that bicycle intertube in Davis's old shit hole, would you? Actually, now that I think about it, he spelled his name Jon Ward. Forget it. Crimson Ghost, I can't believe I won already. My RED TRUCK wasn't even shaking. Rumor has it that Laura M. is a fat, ugly, asshole, that sometimes dabbles in black magic and crack cocaine. Cheer up chubbo. It's only a computer. Finally, I, being the most intelligent fan here, have decided to dictate a series of rules for all of you idiots of lesser intellect follow. 1. From know on everyone MUST sign there post "mark" in the lower left hand corner of the screen. 2. No profanity will be tolerated except when used by me. 3. If all the females on this post are some how not already fat and ugly then they are to gain 80 lbs and scar they're faces. 4. No using of the wrong forms of they're/their/there will be accepted. 5. No misspelling. 6. No childish behavior. In fact, if you sound like you're under fifty you will be banned. 7. Everyone will mock Laura M. until she finally breaks. 8. No one may finger they're anus 'till it bleeds while reading this. 9. No will tamper with my RED TRUCK. 10. Know will sometimes be used in exchange for the word now. Fuck you PUNK FAGGOTS, wes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 15:51:45 -0700 From: DLM Subject: bye This Misfits bible once was pretty cool but now is a load of shit. I haven't posted in almost a year Due to the fact that either some of you have no life whatsoever and live your life around this or no one knows shit and just likes to fuck with people but I still read this once awhile. No one has anyhting intelligent to say (except maybe Evildieff or Chris Ternes).Well, Mark can my subscrption and I hope one day this list will actually have something to do with the Misfits. -MIke mollura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 15:12:22 -0500 From: GREGG Subject: LIES,LIES,LIES If any of you read the last bible then you probably know that the guy who said that the bible is being stopped for three months is a liar. Just thought I'd fill you in ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:45:29 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #230 hmmm. Tommy Victor and Glenn Danzig in the same band. Ego conflicts? ryq ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.com Date: 13 Sep 1996 14:13:20 EDT Subject: Misc. Reply's To the guy who said anyone who has ever bought a bootleg of a band, is stealing from the band....So I suppose MetallicA encourage theft by putting 1.a Snakepit, 2. A Place for people to review bootlegs in every OFFICIAL Fan Club Mag... 2nd...to MR. Flame (the guy who cussed a bunch and flamed people, and said the same thin+g a bunch of ties...Is your life so low and sucky you have to come on here and tell people who they are? I mean, speaking yourmind is one thing, putting people down to lift yourself up is another. so 234 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:40:28 -0500 From: Misfit Subject: The Misfits online game!! Hey fiends, I am running what I believe is the only Misfits related online game on my BBS. If you know how to log on to a BBS, please dial (501) 772-1832. If you don't, go to my Web Site and find out how!! http://www.slinknet.com/~misfit It is Legend of the Red Dragon v3.55 with a new menu set and text, solely devoted to The Misfits, and Bobby...you're in there too buddy! I didn't talk bad about you, you are a favourable character. =) =-=-=-==-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Always available by the following means: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.slinknet.com/~misfit TDP Net/Misfit's Punk Planet Web Site misfit@slinknet.com Primary personal e-mail misfit@txk.net Secondary personal e-mail misfits_punk_planet_bbs@juno.com BBS-related e-mail (501) 772-1832 Misfit's Punk Planet BBS 58:1000/0.0 TDPNet HUB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Ahren Audette Subject: waaaaaaaaaaaaa...... Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:45:05 -0700 Hidey-ho, ghouls! Here it is, hard 'n' fast... Wes is actually fuckin funny... Later, Crimson Ghost. See you in whatever lame version of Hell you whine your way into... XxLoserManxX- I LOVED the way you use weak spewing tactics to compensate for your lack of relevance, lack of any excuse to waste our oxygen, and utter lack of testosterone. Those who truly love you will put a bullet in your brainpan in order to keep you from further embarassing yourself and your disappointed relatives. Those relations that admit you have a branch on their family tree, that is...oh, well...**TWEEET**YOU!!!OUT OF THE GENE POOL!!! Wes and everyone else, please keep contributing. Feel free to tell me off. Don't expect a response, though. I gots better things to do than trade shots with dudes who ride the short bus...I just call 'em like I see 'em. And the Misfits fucking rock. Takin' a dirt nap, *******D********* Der Kommissar *****KDK********* ahren@hotmail.com ***DKDKD********* "In a tower of steel *KDKDKDK********* nature forges a deal DKDKDKDKD********* to raise wonderful hell" KDKDKDKDKDK********* --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: stuff From: dave naked Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 01:03:20 EDT Hey--- First of all...I HAVE been getting every Tshirt order from my NETCOM account (yup, Tammy yours too). This is my new account, and after today I will not be recieveing mail at netcom. Please, email me at davenaked@juno.com. Ok...now that ive said that... To whoever mentioned LIHC: I assume you live on Long Island. heh, I abandoned going to shows a while ago. What a bunch of shit, why should i go to a show where im stared at and made fun of. Fuck that. I guess im not punk enough, whatever. There are a few worth while bands, like Edgar, M.O.M. (well, not any more), and Freaks from the Apocolipse (great punk ska band). Our scene is pretty friggen lame. Who ever hates Bobby Steele: Please leave this list. Do you see any other misfit here? no Anyone have/see/hear of the misfits boot, "The Shocking Return"???? I am SUPER interested in any info that will lead to the purchase of this illegal compact disc. I think thats it....mourn the death of CG. dave naked "The future never happened" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 05:09:07 -0400 From: jaid Subject: Miscellaneous [error] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 21:54:22 -0700 From: Justin Deming Subject: Sit down, shut-up, and let me have my friggin' minute! My bro is now snicking a new copy of LoB in his "Dad's No-No" Collection, which includes WAU, Slayer, Deicide, and other bad influences! XxAlien ManxX, your image of us fiends is oh so wrong. I'm willing to bet 90% of this bible you're reading is flame-igh @ you, you ignorant little boy, because you're little tirade was nothing but B.S.! We are people who like to listen to the Misfits, that's it. We don't sit around jackin' off between bibles as you say. The band isn't the most important thing in our lives, get real! You're just some dumb fuck trying to stir up shit, your arguements were pretty transperant. Mark, this right here is directed at you! Why did you let this shit get through? You screen messages of religious zealots trying to save souls (which I back you on, it's out of place here), but you let some fuck come in and insult every single last one of us??? I told bad jokes, and then re-flamed those who flamed me, and you told me to STOP, and guess what, I DID! But the fact you whined and moaned with everyone about me and bitched at me over that shit fuckin' pisses me off now. Great, look at what this has come to, Crimson Ghost is unsubscribing!!! Mark, just make some rules. Please! This sink is sinking so fast we forget the band and its great music that started it all. I'm not sure if I'm done yet, but for now, I'm gonna go check out CG's page! - J. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:39:39 -0400 From: Steven Gueci Subject: Looking for Live Danzig I am looking for a videotape of Danzig's concert at Roseland on Dec. 19, 1992. I was at the concert and at one point while I was on top of the crowd surfing, Danzig came to the front of the stage and shook my hand. It was cool cause usually the bouncers will pull you down when you get too close to the stage, but the bouncers accually held me up until Danzig finished shaking hands with everybody. Needless to say I freaked. If someone has or knows of anyplace I could get a copy, I'd appreciate it if you would contact me. Also, for anyone interested, Danzig's new album titled "Black Acid Devil" is scheduled to be released on Halloween on Hollywood records. The bands current line up consists of: Danzig Tommy Victor (Formally of Prong)-Guitar Lazie-Bass Castillo-Drums Forever Breeding Hate, Guech ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 96 22:24:40 EDT From: Special-K Subject: Danzig signing hey all, Glenn is going to be signing this Thursday at Showcase comics on South st. in Philadelphia. All you have to do is make sure to bring one of his comic books or buy one there. You can bring cd's also to sign as long as they're not bootlegs. Hope to see some of you there Later, Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:17:20 PST From: the late andy van langen Well kiddies, I am back. Sorry to disappoint you all. For awhile I was a passive member (remember the active/passiveargument last month?) Mark, I believe a few issues ago CG was talking about you doing the majordomo thing or spliting the Bible into 2 parts. I would highly reccommend the latter, because I just got off a majordomo list and it hella sucked. 170 messages every time I collected my mail!! Also, the 2-part idea is kool because 3/4 of the Bibles I get are truncated. A minor Misfits sighting: in the liner notes of Type O Negative's new CD they thank all the bands they've toured with. If any1 out there has any info on this, when did they play together??? Amara That blonde chick with the pvc ballgown::growl, arches eyebrows::: Requiem for a Soulless Man" by Peter Steeleve got a problem a problem with hate/ i cant go on dragging this weight/ a cold steel hand that wont let go/ acid-filled thoughts out of control/ i built myself a nice little cage/ with bars of anger/ and a lock of rage/ i cant help asking who's got the key?/ when i know damned well it's me/ no i aint hinting for sympathy/ im used to dealing with apathy/ the scars on my wrists may seem like a crime/ just wish me better luck next time/ so what if i died a thousand deaths/ you think im insane but i have no regrets/ one more time wont matter no question/ suicide is self expression **************************************************************************** How do I set my LaserPrinter to*KILL*?!? **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 08:27:06 -0700 From: Otto Subject: tribute? fit's tribute album? I would like to know more. When will it be released? How much will it cost? Who's doing what? ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:43:52 +0200 Subject: scooby GKichlin@mobile.bam.com... that sure wasn't misfits related, but darn creative... -greg ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:47:41 +0200 Subject: bootlegs >if you've ever bought a bootleg, you've stolen from the band. I've been guilty of this once, and I'll never do it again. no1...it's stealing from the band no2...it sounds like crap ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:45:26 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #230 ..sure, wes thomas is a jerk... but he cracks me up :) -greg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 02:10:28 -0400 From: igrat666@aol.com Subject: blackacidevil Danzig - live in Columbia, Maryland sept 14, 1996 Just saw the very first of the "new" Danzig shows on their opening slot for Ozszy and I'm thrilled to say the news is all good! I was worried when I heard that Glenn had fired the guy from Fight last weekend & wondered if Tommy from Prong would have enough time to learn the new songs & rehearse but he did a DAMN good job!! It took forever for them to come onstage as right after Sepultura played there was a blackout and the venue lost power & was running on emergency generators! I was terrifed that the show would be cancelled and I would get to see the show I'd been waitinga year and a half for. But luckily they regained power & proceeded with the show! Before they came on there was some beautiful dramatic classicial style music played - I wondered if it from from a forthcoming follow up to "Black Aria" as it was in that vein. I think this was the first time I'd ever seen Glenn on stage before the music started - he crept out in the dark before the lights came on & waited & then when the lights came on they started. They opened the set with "Mother" which got the crowd's attention RIGHT away & everybody was singing along. Glenn was wearing a short sleeved mesh shirt with the usual black jeans & cowboy boots & looked GREAT! He seemed to be enjoying himself a lot & glad to be back performing in the spotlights. Joey, Lazy and Tommy were dressed head to foot in the pre-requisite black (tho Tommy's shirt was shiny black vinyl) After "Mother" they did "Until You Call on the Dark" which was followed by a new song. The very beginning reminded me some of Nine Inch Nails and included some drum and rhythmn patterns played on a backing tape but when the song kicked in it sounded a lot more like the "traditional" Danzig sound so anybody who was afraid they'd go "industrial" has nothing to fear. They followed with "Her Black Wings", "It's Coming Down", "Dirty Black Summer" and "Deep" (sounding even better & stronger than on the X-files soundtrack - in my opinion it was one of the best they did live) Following "Deep" was another new song, this one much faster & harder (actually reminding me more of Samhain), then the crowd favorite "Twist of Cain" and finally "Long Way Back From Hell". It was really odd seeing a new band on stage and at first it was hard to really judge them as at the beginning I could only hear the drums and Glenn but as the show went on the guitar and bass got stronger & heavier and by the end they were REALLY rocking out and sounded terrific. The new songs are fantastic and now I am REALLY dying for the new album to come out. How will I ever wait 'til Halloween.... (BTW the white on black banner behind the band read "blackacidevil" all one word.... so is that "black aci - devil" or "black acid evil"??) Merchandise wise there are two new shirts available. One has a weird photo of Glenn done sort of as a positive/negative (possibly a solarized photo?) in shades of red on the front with the tour dates and "blackacidevil" on the back. The other has the Martin Emund drawing of Glenn incorporated into the Danzig skull design that was in some of the Verotik comics on the front with "blackacidevil" on the back (no tour dates on that one). They are also selling some of the comics - Death Dealer #2 and Satanika #0. ------------------------------ From: MDPPix@aol.com Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 14:12:59 -0400 Subject: What has the Bible come to????? Okay Adam Seven, if you hate all of us, stop reading To the guy who flamed me on Wednesday (sorry, I don't know who you are) I hoped you were joking, but I read thru your post about 5 times and realized you were serious. If you don't like to talk about the Misfits and Misfits related stuff 3 times a week, don't read the M.B. If you hate all of us, unsubscribe. It's as simple as that. What gets me is that you complain about us, but yet you receive the Misfits Bible and respond to it, and complain about the rest of doing essentially the same thing as you. What hypocrisy. Either read it and hate it, or stop reading it and be much happier. I hope I speak for many fellow Fiends in this message. I don't know what I did to invoke your wrath, but whatever I did I apologise for. Nick "butt-monkey" Chicken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:11:27 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: You talkin' to me? >From: "Mikkelson, Laura Kathleen" >i should not have said >that people who buy the boxed set are being ripped off. that's not >true,sorry. there is much labor that goes into it, it's just a little >too expensive for me right now I like you better already Laura. Now my question is, when you 'can' afford the box set will you actually buy it, or will you say, "Oh, I don't need to buy that. I already own it" >i still stand firm on the fact >that dubbing the boxed set from someone else is not stealing Oh, Laura! You were doing so well. On this point the law is not on your side. This is not my opinion, this is fact. >no band is worth spending grocery money on OK, this one is my fault. When I said, "That money could have bought a lot of groceries," it was a figure of speech. No I'm not starving. Ask D-Rod, Nike or Jaid. >From: Dalton Rasmussen >A little heavy-handed aren't we? From Laura's post above I have a little >trouble seeing that she has 'no appreciation for labor or hard work.' OK, I admit I was 'heavy handed'. But more on this later. She admits now that she does understand the labor that goes into a record. My point was that the best way to show anyone your appreciation for their work is to pay them fairly. I felt like she was telling the band, 'your work isn't worth my $.' >Are you saying that we should never >tape a musicians work? >You wouldn't own any Misfits bootlegs >would you? More on these points later. >Wow!! That the box set is a priority in anyone's life is totally >mind-blowing to me. Are you serious? Tell me again.....who has a >warped sense of values? Hmm. I think the point of my original post was that life is about priorities. You don't agree? Life is about making decisions. I made the decision that owning the box set was more important than owning something else. That's called prioritizing. As far as values, my point was, and still is, that Laura's values are in question when she casually says dubbing the box set instead of paying for it is OK. >You should always proofread before you call someone dumb. First of all, I thought the ideas in Laura's post were dumb. Still do. OK, I admit I'm a bad speller. Guilty as charged. But would you rather invite a bad speller into you house, or a thief. Furthermore, would you rather invite in someone who admits to thier bad spelling, or someone who consistently says stealing is not wrong. >From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) >Hey Laura; I haven't gotten laid lately. Is it okay if I rape you ? I admit I thought about using this arguement. But if I get accused of being 'heavy handed' for what I did write, I can only imagine the crap I would have gotten. Leave it to good olde Bobby to say what others are to chicken to. >From: vandal@aloha.net >OK, but don't you also think that record companies steal from us by >selling CDs at a 100% or more markup from the cost of manufacture??? No disagreement from me on this one. That's why it's important to support independant bands and labels. Ian MacKaye has gotten some shit from people on this list and elsewhere. But no one can accuse him of ripping people off. >Honestly, can you say before everyone here that you >have NEVER dubbed a copy of a movie, LP, CD, or paid money for an illegal >bootleg? OK, on the subject of bootlegs. First lets make 2 catagories. 1. Stuff that IS commercially available and 2. Stuff that is NOT commercially available. If you buy a bootleg or dub a copy of something that is officially available, you are stealing. If you buy a bootleg or dub a copy of something that in not officially available, you are not stealing. The law may say differently, but this is my opinion. If you own the box set, then you buy a bootleg of Cough/Cool 'cause yer a collector, I say fine. You've given the band their money for the recording. You shouldn't have to pay for it twice. If you own the box set, then you dub a copy of WAU 'cause that stuff isn't on the set, not cool. You should pay the band for their work. The point being that the band should get paid for the official stuff they put out. If I buy a copy of 'Why Be Something You're Not' I haven't taken any money from the band, 'cause they're not trying to sell it. Am I a hypocrite? Absolutly. I will say a majority of the stuff I have copies of originals of, is stuff I only marginally wanted. But I also have copies of rare originals. I have a friend making me a copy of Rollins' "Hammer of the Rock Godz" 'cause I've only seen it once in my life and it was $30. I I were to see it again at a more modest price, I would snatch it up. This post is getting WAY to long. If anybody actaully cares about my opinion on this subject, e-mail me and we'll talk. -Bricks >From: Dave Asselin >If getting some CDs was a priority on your life, you need to get out more. Your right, I do need to get out more. I just can't afford to right now, after having to pay for my Box Set. ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:02:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: Exorcised hello fiends, To all complaining about the price of the box set just keep looking. I have found that different places sell it for different prices. Also if you check your local used store you are bound to find one that some poor fiend who was down on their luck had to sell, so they could buy some of glenn's back hairs from Wes Thomas. I have seen this as a matter of fact I have seen it twice! I picked up mine when the box first came out. Then I found one at a used store fro 35 bux and just recently I got another from a store going out of buisness for 30 bux. Also after listening to Danzig of late I am one to think that maybe he should just close the book on "Danzig the band" and just go by Glenn or Glenn Danzig. I mean I used to think that Glenn was the whole band but it just isnt gonna be the same. Dont get me wrong I still love Glenn but it isnt really "Danzig". Now that that is a valid point lets see some responces to that! To the guy who wants to tape the box set, to each his own. I myself could deal with the inferior quality that a dubbed copy would give me. And any true fiend surely needs these on cd. But hey I kinda agree we as fans got fucked on the box set thing cuz they put C1, C2, and LOB in the damn thing. I mean if you are hard core enough to buy the box then surley you have already bought these 3 discs. if any one wants a demo tape of my new band "The Wes Thomas Expirience" just email me. thanx D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:04:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: EAD fiends, I still have one EAD gold disc left I will sell it for 75$ and I will throw in a Resurection poster with it. So just email me and the first one to me gets it. later D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 22:51:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Fama Subject: Danzig Set List: from Mary: Mother Sacrafice [sic] Her Black Wings See All You Were It's Coming Down Dirty Black Summer Deep 7th House Twist of Cain Long Way back from Hell she also referred to the album as BLACKACIDEVIL (...perhaps Glenn means that as some sort of linguistic-freak cousin for DEMONSWEATLIVE) -BBBBBBBBBBB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 96 01:19:11 EDT From: Special-K Subject: Danzig--Philadelphia 9/15 hey all, for the pessimists on this list I have one thing to say: DANZIG ISN'T DEAD!!! I just got in from their second date, opening for Ozzy, and Im truly impressed. Tommy Victor and Lazie are definite improvements over John and Eerie. Now I know alot of you are going to disagree, but the 2 new dudes act- ually moved around the stage and played to the crowd, instead of just standing there and playing. I really like the stage prescence of Lazie. He didn't seem to have any stagefright at all, especially playing in front of a 15,000 plus crowd and it being only his second show. Tommy Victor's sound is a little bit higher than John's but I thought he covered the material quite well. It is now understandable how John couldn't play the new material as it is very fast. I can't think of the names of the 2 new songs but they both ripped. Both were aggressive and frantic, with the new industrial edge adding a new sound to the music. Glenn's voice was in top form as well as Joey's drumming. All in all Danzig is far from dead!! Later, Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:26:13 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: No longer that nice little fiend... Hello to all my fave fiends everywhere... I guess i should start this out with a compliment. To the Crimson Ghost. That was a great flame Jim, just incredible how you ripped me apart infront of close to 800 people. Though one slight flaw you have there dear, you just don't have the fucking balls to flame Michale after he called you an asshole. Instead you attacked me cause you though i'm such an easy target, right? Am I supposed to get upset now and e-mail you asking why you did this to me? Fuck that shit cause i don't need to waste my time on you. Now to clear some stuff up since you seem to believe that you know me and obviously you don't. You know i have never been to a Danzig signing, which there have only been 2 of in the 5 times that the band came to Miami/FortLauderdale. Actually i was called 2 weeks prior to one show by the tour manager who had invited me to hang out with the band for a couple hours before their set. That was the first time i got to meet Glenn. You know you should talk to Mark before you post and get your facts straight. See I never came out on the Bible as some self proclaimed Misfits Deity as you have. I have always and will always consider myself as just one of the fiends. No better than one no worse than another. Though again it is obvious that you do not share the same views that all the fiends on the bible are equal. As for my life, well it looks like your the one who has a problem with "My Life." I've brought up this point only in defence of those who are stupid enough to say i don't have one. It seems you are the one with who lacks the life if you flame people for no reason what so ever. Plus, i though you said you were leaving? Though you get flamed by several other people and you jump back on just to flame me. That make a lot of sence!?! Now what were you saying about better things to do? Mark correcting me all the time, shit Dave i'm sorry i got your e-mail address wrong!!! Fucking make an error like that and get the shit beaten out of you. Plus the other bit was on the Glenn VS Jerry deal, i've been told stuff, you have he has. At this point who cares anymore. Though i guess you seem to think i am screwing up the bible with what i do. Bad Tammy, Bad Tammy, how dare you say anything at all. I've seen some strange shit in this place but what the hell they are not me. This is what it is Jim, stop kissing up to Michale and tell him what you have to say about you being an asshole. Bet if Glenn was involved in the bible you would have never complimented Michale and would have flamed him big time for calling you an asshole. Just as if he was another fiend subscriber. Did you say dope or cope with the fact that Michale was right all along and you are truely an asshole? Let's get it together here Jim, maybe a couple more of your pills and some nice warm milk will help. Now on to the other asshole. Adam, sorry i have not responded to your e-mail, but Bobby doesn't like it when i deal with strangers who e-mail me out of the blue like that. Plus i can't date you. Bobby is picky about who i see without him. So i think its time you find someone else to court. I guess not everyone can be as lucky as 20eyes. And to think this used to be a nice place to post. Say two words and get your fucking head bashed in. Adamn#15 thank you for saying what needed to be said about the Bible t-shirt. though i think that would be one hell of a thing for the folks at Pizza Hut seeing and dealing with 800+ Misfits Bible Members. Though i still would love to know what happened at Wolfies when i sent the Misfits there to get Dinner before the show!?! To set the pre scene for everyone who has never been to this place. Deli, older area of MiamiBeach, hangout of all the old people in the area. Its anyones guess, or just basic chaos. well that is all for now and again this is the last day to send in songs for the contest. Keep on sending in your Misfits Bible T-shirt orders to Dave Naked. Its been real as always. Jim maybe you can find a new set of balls on the internet. Later to all the fiendies(you know this is in code for punk dreams coming true or is it if you say it with your head in the toilet saying it 777 times really fast, who knows, unless someone tried it). oh and Mark, don't work to hard on this little frankenstein, it might one day come to life, go find Jim and bite him in the ass!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 232 Wednesday, September 18th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #231 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: z Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #231 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:12:38 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 05:08:01 -0500 > From: Misfit > Subject: I will no longer post > > Chuck was never in the Weirdos. Although Flea was in the Weirdos, FEAR, etc... > And yes, they do play When the Shit Hits the Fan, although it is the lounge Well... Chuck was in The Weirdos and was kicked out of the band after one show in San Fancisco because of his unacceptable behavior. He was also in Fear at the same time as Flea was in Fear (yes Flea was also in Fear). Chuck documents all of this in the Flipside interview that will be on the page soon. > From: Warhammer > Hi every one Warhammer here > What the hell is all this shit being talked on the bible? To the > persons ripping on the fits and saying we need to get lives take a > look in the fukin mirror. Exactly. > From: amara@juno.com > When did The Misfits tour with Type O... The Misfits did their first 2 shows of the 90's with Type O Negative, showing up during their encores on 10/30/95 and 10/31/95. They did 3 songs the first night and 5 the second. > From: Rick McClinton > Uh.. Isn't that the ***POINT*** of this list? This list is for the > discussion of the Misfits. It is not the place to point out to people that you > think you have a real life. It is the mailing list on which to obsess on the > Misfits. If you're not a fan, why be a subscriber? Exactly. > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 15:51:45 -0700 > From: DLM > Subject: bye > > This Misfits bible once was pretty cool but now is a load of shit. I Exactly. > From: jaid > Subject: Miscellaneous > > [error] Unfortunately, Jaid's post was deleted by the mail program because it started with the word "From" which is used as a keyword for the mail program to identify users (for instance - From: jaid@tiac.net). However, she had many excellent points about the status of this list, and how disappointed she would be if she were ME and had seen the mailing list go from what it was to what it is. > From: Justin Deming > Subject: Sit down, shut-up, and let me have my friggin' minute! > > Mark, this right here is directed at you! Why did you let this shit get > through? You screen messages of religious zealots trying to save souls > (which I back you on, it's out of place here), but you let some fuck come > in and insult every single last one of us??? I told bad jokes, and then > re-flamed those who flamed me, and you told me to STOP, and guess what, I > DID! But the fact you whined and moaned with everyone about me and > bitched at me over that shit fuckin' pisses me off now. Great, look at > what this has come to, Crimson Ghost is unsubscribing!!! Mark, just make > some rules. I simply told you to stop. I didn't whine and moan with everyone about you, nor did I bitch at you. I'm not sure where you got that. The entire text of my message to you was: "STOP." At the time, you were the only subscriber who had ever been cited as a reason for unsubscribing. Three people unsubscribed specifically because of you, some of whom had often posted what I consider to be valuable info.... Even Wes Thomas hadn't ever forced somebody off the list, at that time. But you're right. It is time for rules. I have had about 10 people unsubscribe in the last week, some of whom were oldtimers like Mike Mollura, Crimson Ghost, and Dave Asselin. I'm sorry to see them go. > From: MDPPix@aol.com > Adam Seven, if you hate all of us, stop reading > To the guy who flamed me on Wednesday (sorry, I don't know who you are) I > hoped you were joking, but I read thru your post about 5 times and realized > you were serious. If you don't like to talk about the Misfits and Misfits > related stuff 3 times a week, don't read the M.B. If you hate all of us, > unsubscribe. Exactly. Adam, I forwarded your non-Misfits post directly to tes777 since it had no Misfits content at all. --- I was hoping that I could just keep in the shadows and let this mailing list go the way it wanted to go. I have watched it go from a Glenn Danzig fan club to a Jerry-and-Doyle-are-the-greatest list, from a Bobby-sucks list to a Bobby's-the-greatest list, etc. I'm here for information. I learn a lot about the bands that I like from just dealing with other fans, and I enjoy talking with other fans from time to to time, as many others on this list do. That's the reason I started it. In the beginning, we all seemed to be friends with common interests. The Misfits were a mysterious band that we all loved, and most of us were fans of the other related bands. Then, like now, I tried to keep my opinion out of things and just stick to the facts. I knew how little accurate info there was out there and thought the mailing list would be a good way to discuss the true story of the band. In the past several months it's gotten worse and worse. Each issue is more and more cluttered with people flaming or slandering each other for no purpose. Misfits discussion decreases each issue. I notice that a lot of the people who complain about flaming go ahead and flame someone else, thus contributing to the waste. There's also a disturbing number of male "tough guys" specifically targetting the female subscribers, for what reasons I can't imagine. Is this an accurate reflection of the intelligence of the normal Misfits fan? Sometimes I think so. This is a band and its mailing list we're talking about. It's not just any band - this is a band with lyrics like "I raped your mother today." It's pretty much impossible to take stuff like that seriously, and I hope nobody does. This mailing list shouldn't be taken too seriously either. After all, its value is close to nothing as a means of accomplishing anything beneficial. I didn't make this mailing list so I could sit here and preach in front of 850 people, but I guess it's time. I have received too many unsubscriptions and complaints to do nothing. Am I going to shut this mailing list down? No - it's pretty easy to operate and it doesn't take nearly as much of my time as it used to. I was hoping I could let everyone have their 'freedom of speech' but it seems that some limits need to be put in place. There are several options: 1) shut down the list. 2) leave it the way it is. 3) change it to a once-every-few-weeks Misfits update with posts only from me or band members. 4) leave it as a discussion list (as it is now) but delete non-Misfits related posts. I have thought seriously about option #3. It would cut down on a lot of the work I do, and would only go out when there really was something of immediate value in the Misfits world going on. Unfortunately, it would totally eliminate discussion. Option #4 would be pretty easy, and could be extended to include flaming and other related things. Some things are funny (as Wes Thomas is intended to be) and other things are not, but if people would rather not see that kind of stuff, I can filter it out. It would certainly make the issues a lot smaller. I have already started forwarding personal messages and deleting religious posts. If I were to do #4, I could take out about 10 messages that are currently waiting to go out in the next issue. I'll take a vote. Anyone who has an opinion can email it to me - just don't expect me to respond to them all. Pick one of those choices and let me know what you think. I'll make the changes by the time the Friday issue is out. That's all for this issue. The rest of the stuff that's been sent in (about 33 messages so far) will be included in Friday's issue. Just to add to the Misfits content of this issue, here's the current update: HALLOWEEN SHOW? --------------- It has been confirmed. The Misfits are looking into doing three shows around the time of Halloween. They will hopefully be doing one show at The Chance in Poughkeepsie, NY on the 29th or Nov 1, one show at the Trocadero in Philadelphia on Halloween and a show at the 9:30 Club in Washington, DC on the 30th or the 1st of November. EUROPE TOUR? ------------ The tour was originally schedule for November and has now been postponed until April so the band can concentrate on recording material for the new album - more on that later... GEFFEN RECORDS? --------------- Geffen Records has been visiting Misfits shows since July at the Milwaukee MetalFest. They showed up at some of the west coast shows and then again on the east coast for the Vernon, NJ and Asbury Park, NJ shows. They got together with the band last Thursday and will be getting together with them again this Thursday. There is a high probability that the band will sign with Geffen in the next few weeks for future Misfits releases. Interestingly enough, Geffen distributed the first two Danzig records... NEW ALBUM? ---------- The new album will be recorded in the next few months. The band plans to have the entire album done by February. There are currently about 25 new Misfits songs. In May, they recorded the following 7 songs: Mars Attacks * Dead King's Rise * The Hunger * Blacklight The Haunting * Talons Of Steel * Dr. Phibes Rises Again Since then Jerry has written about 5 more, Michale & Doyle have written 5 more together, and Dr. Chud has written about 5 of his own. We can expect to see 13 to 17 of these songs on the next release, presumably on Geffen Records. The band has decided not to do the proposed "Blacklight" and "Mars Attacks" singles and instead devote their time to the album. ANIMAL ROOM? ------------ During November of last year, The Misfits were filmed live for the upcoming movie "Animal Room." This movie should come out (finally) within the next month or so. FUTURE TOURS? ------------- The band has terminated its relationship with KK&F who manages Type O Negative. Suggestions for places to play should now be directed to Rocky Caiafa of The Misfits and NOT Ken Kriete of KK&F. Email me (msk4m@virginia.edu) for more info on how to reach Rocky. MERCHANDISE? ------------ The Fiend Club has a lot of stuff in stock. As always, send $ to Misfits Fiend Club; PO Box 310; Vernon, NJ 07462 and make checks payable to Cyclopian Music Inc. Postage is $5 per order. SHIRTS ($15 each, all double sided black shirts) Jerry Only Doyle Resurrection Max's X-Mas Die Die My Darling Glow Skull with tour dates POSTERS ($5 each) Jerry Only Cycloplian Music Resurrection Static Age (limited quantity) SKATEBOARD DECKS ($60 each) Die Die My Darling Crimson Ghost MODELS Jerry Only ($150) Crimson Ghost ($140) Frankenstein ($130) WALL PLAQUES Evil Eye by Pushead ($75) Earth AD ($50) Halloween 2 ($50) --- That's all for now... Mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 233 Friday, September 20th 1996 Today's Topics: First MISFITS BIBLE RULES beep beep the shocking return of aon-1 misfits portland or seatlle cd re #231 Ugly?? Re: Misfits Bible, #231 Keep Taping the Box NEw Danzig Album Shocking Return Live Record... Mr. Cotter (welcome back) Blackaciddrod Tommy Victor/Prong Danzig - Philadelphia Core States Center, Sunday September 15th all hell Danzig band members Re: Misfits Bible, #231 gold earth ad Bible Post pin blackacidevil Stuff So long...farewell... What can i say... Geffen & mailing list The Last Bible!! Unsubscribers can't hack it Message-Misfits Stuff Sale In Honor of Igrat666 Exactly stuff 4 sale Re: Misfits Bible, #232 Miscellaneous It's official! My Vote & Graves GONE?! The Misfits and their Bible misfits in poughkeepsie I'm new new fit's album Danzig news Re: Misfits Bible, #232 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:47:53 -0400 From: z Subject: First Okay Fiends, I have taken a 2 day vote, and it appears that I will be going with Option #4. If you don't remember from last issue, option #4 involved the deletion of non-Misfits related posts and personal flames. Now, just to clear this up, Misfits related DOES include Danzig, Undead, Samhain, Chyna, horror, etc, so it's not that big of a change. The majority of the messages I received fully supported group discussion, although some people took #3 (update posts from me and band members only) as it was a lot more simple to wade through. Here are the results so far: Option 1 (stop list): 0 votes Option 2 (leave the same): 2 votes Option 3 (updates only): 18 votes Option 4 (moderated discussion): 53 votes Keep issues smaller: 10 votes Newsgroup: 3 votes Cancel all subscriptions and see who re-subscribes: 2 votes Make a set of rules: 5 votes Interestingly enough, a huge amount of people said they would like to keep Wes Thomas posts, but delete the rest of the flamers and imitators. I have made a set of rules, so I can become Big Brother (!) within the next few issues. It's unfortunate that it has to be that way, but hopefully it will help. The rules involve keeping posts to Misfits-related content, no flaming, banning repeat offenders, etc. Basically I took the old rules that the Crimson Ghost made about 2 years ago and updated them. They follow this message directly. I will be enforcing these rules. In this issue alone, I deleted or forwarded 8 messages. A lot of people mentioned that they had seen this sort of thing destroy good mailing lists before. The KISSArmy mailing list went down last month for the same reason. A lot of people had some good suggestions, and I thank you for that. Brent Eyestone had a particularly interesting idea - Mondays should be for band updates and Wed/Fri should be for discussion. That might be an interesting thing to try. Ideally, last issue will help get things back to normal and allow people like EVB and PRH to post without being harassed by the Glenn haters... --- On to other things. #1) I now have even more updated information on the Halloween shows: 10/29 or 10/30 The Chance Poughkeepsie NY 10/31 Trocadero Philadelphia PA 11/1 9:30 Club Washington DC #2) Several of you asked about the wall plaques and models. The plaques are a little over a square foot in size and are painted in full color. I have pictures of them on the page (now we know who actually looks at it...) in the Halloween '95 updates - check the back of the merchandise order form and the "Hallowen perfromance / horror convention" section for photos. #3) NJ, NY, and PA Misfits fans RED ALERT! Misfits / Sardonica / Mars Needs Women Birch Hill Night Club in Old Bridge, NJ Friday October 4, 1996 - tickets $10 call (908) 536-0650 for directions This is a special show at which they will be playing some more of their new material, some of which have never been performed live. It will be a special two hour set and was just booked Wednesday night, so be there! #4) There's an interview with Bobby Steele in the next issue of High Times. Thanks to PRH for letting me know. #5) There's nothing else... The band is meeting with Geffen today (Thursday) and there have been no changes in the band otherwise. #6) Does anyone know of any online reviews of Misfits show? Please let me know ASAP. They are needed for upcoming Misfits presskits. mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:13:19 -0400 From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com / msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 17:14:07 updated Thu, 19 Sep 96 10:02:08 Subject: MISFITS BIBLE RULES 1) Please do not post your entire life's collection of Bootlegs, it just takes up too much space. If you'd like to trade with people, say you have a good collection and that people should e-mail you for the list. 2) Please keep all dialog limited to the Misfits and related bands. If you have something personal to say to someone, send it directly to that person. 3) Mark has created a World Wide Web Misfits Home Page, It contains part of Mark's Book and all the back issues of this list, plus lyrics, discography pictures, and more. The URL IS: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ 4) Do NOT flame other subscribers. No malicious, space-wasting posts will be tolerated. Repeat offenders will be banished and useless posts will be deleted. CG & Mark ------------------------------ Date: 16 SEP 96 10:05:44 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: beep beep rmcclint@tmac.com -> "or anyone else around here) know how the 'beep beep' during DDMD is actually made?" its a keyboard. GKichlin - > cool on the Scooby post! that was funny as shit! To rest of you who bitch and moan every issue about nothing, fuck off. I quit. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:18:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Russell Subject: the shocking return of aon-1 hey fiends, long time no see 1. What's all this crap with people accusing each other of not "having lives?" This has always been the lamest insult on these e-mail lists, because obviously none of us have lives or we wouldn't be reading and posting here. But seriously, this comes down to basically insulting someone for caring about the very same list you obviously care about (otherwise you wouldn't bother to read it and feel compelled to tell the others on it that they don't have lives). 2. Where I live, CD prices ARE going up, you can pay up to $17.99 for a new CD if you go to those crappy mall stores. 3. Yes, dubbing is stealing, but I am fully in support of stealing. Granted, if a band is waiting for their next check from the record company to buy a few burrito supremes, it really sucks; but if you really want the new Van Halen album, christ, go ahead and dub it, they're rich as fuck. And no, Bobby Steele, I'm not saying I want my favorite bands to live hand to mouth - there's a big difference between starvation and bigtime rock stardom. 4. Wes Thomas is the king of the Misfits Bible, I supported him even when he first appeared and others wanted him off the list. Really, I just want him to come over and toss my salad. If you don't know what that means, you probably don't want to. aon-1 ------------------------------ From: cybernaut@mtsi.com Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 11:32:38 -0700 Subject: misfits portland or seatlle cd Is anybody out there intrested in a cd of The MISFITS 21 Aug 96 Portland OR or 22 Aug 96 Seatlle WA? If I do have some pressed there will only be 23 of them for $20 each postage Included. The sound quality isn't the greatest but sounds alright. Portland OR was the last gig of the tour and the band were joined onstage at various time by members of Anthrax, Cannibal Corpse ( George does some awsome vocals for Demonomania & Mommy), & Life of Agony. If intrested email cybernaut@mtsi.com. Are there any Kryst the Conqueror or Undead bootlegs out there? I have an autographed gold earth A.D. and it only cost me $18 new. Chemical Peel Web Fanzine cybernaut@mtsi.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/7908/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:04:47 -0600 From: Opus Subject: re #231 This is getting rediculous. The original intent of this mailing list was to be a discusion area for the Misfits and related bands. It has turned into bullshit bickering and ankle biting. We need to do a serious 180 and get back on track. Sure, arguments will come up, but that doesn't mean arguments need to turn into mindless thoughts and namecalling. This pages is for talking about the Misfits and related bands. For those of you who want to mindlessly throw thoughtless shit at each other, join a political mailing list. This is for the 'fits. Let's keep it that way. michael ------------http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit/-------------------------- "maybe there will come a day when those that you kept blind will suddenly realize maybe it's a part of me you took it to a place I hope it would never go and maybe that fucked me up much more than you'll ever know" -TR ------------------------------ From: KISSEL@emuvax.emich.edu Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ugly?? This is in response to all of you who think us girls who listen to the Misfits are all ugly...(I can remember 2 posts very clearly)... This is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard, not to mention a huge stereotype. Sure, some girls are ugly, but some aren't (Me included). I've been to a few shows, where I saw many ugly people and lots of gorgeous people. This is how it goes everywhere. There is no band on this earth that attracts only ONE kind of person (Ugly or Pretty). And just so you know, I'm not fat, nor do I have scars on my face. MissFit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:05:14 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #231 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) I have to speak out in defense of Crimson Ghost. As you might already know; I met CG on this bible. He was the first person to ream me over my attacks on Jerry back in March. He was willing to LISTEN to my side of the story, and gradually came out in my support. HE DOES KNOW JERRY. There is no reason to doubt that fact. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing people flaming my former #1 enemy on this page over things you know nothing about. One thing Jim has, that most people lack is INTEGRITY. He had the guts to defend Jerry in the beginning, and he had the balls to come out here and admit he was wrong when he saw my point. Sure, he comes on like some bull-headed arrogant asshole ocaisionally, but he's got a heart of gold. Like Michale would say; "leave the guy alone". On the tape copying subject - before Laura M becomes the second most hated person on this page - this is what I can tell you: The BOX SET costs $27.00 to make. With all the custom packaging in there, everything has to be made 'special'. The molds for the jewel cases, the Static Age box and the coffin has to be specially fabricated. Caroline charges about $35 to $40 for it. That's an 8 to 13 dollar mark-up. Unless a special agreement has been made; Glenn gets about $6.00 for the songwriting. I can't imagine that leaves much for the band and label. Based on the Recording Piracy Act, of 1972 "it is illegal to make unauthorized copies of copyrighted recordings". My interpretation of this law is that - if you go into a concert and tape it; that recording is not copyrighted. Even though it may not be 'right' to sell these kind of bootlegs - it's really not illegal (unless they've re-written that law). The ACT of '72 covers only making counterfeit copies of legit records - which does take money out of the artists pockets. My opinion ? For what it's worth: if you buy the CD, and you want to make a cassette to play in your car, or just to keep from beating on the original . . . it's okay. If you have a hard-to-find recording, and your friend wants to have a copy . . . fine ! If you're making a copy in the hopes of turning on a NEW fan . . . it's in the artist's best interest. If you're gonna make multiple copies to distribute for th e sole purpose of preventing the legitimate sale . . . that's not right. It's hard to prove what the actual intent is in this case - there are some gray areas here. THE FACT IS: because of the problem of taping records, the Home Recording Rights Act was made into law. This Act attached a tax on all blank tapes. I think it's $.01/minute. This money is supposed to be distributed to the artists to 'compensate for the lost income from taping'. When you tape the BOX SET, guess who's getting that money ? Glenn ? Jerry ? No ! Most likely, you'll be supporting Madonna and Michael Jackson by taping MISFITS and UNDEAD records. It's really up to you. We've all done this. And it's gonna continue, but at least if you know what the deal is - you can make an informed choice. I don't think anyone here has the intention of ripping us off. You just don't understand a very complex legal issue. If you can't find anything by THE UNDEAD, or if you're not sure if you're gonna like it . . . ask someone to copy some stuff for ya. If you like it . . . make a point of buying the next UNDEAD thing you see. It's a double edge sword, so use your conscience. LAURA: no hard feelings here. As far as getting laid . . . email me your phone #, and let's get drunk . . . and see what comes up ; ) NOW LET'S GET OFF THAT SUBJECT >From: Misfit > >Bobby, if you don't get The Undead together by tomorrow and play East Texas >by Monday night, I am going to go and rob a bank, buy a new bass rig, >relocate to the Lower East Side, and become your bassist whether you >or not. That's all I have to say. Oh, and if I do, can I stay in your >air-conditioned pad? I wouldn't wanna have to become the second person >there to buy one. :) Too late ! You'll have to be satisfied as the third. While you're at it . . . maybe you could work as my collection agent ; ) >From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com > >Bobby wrote about hollywood records "It's a division of DISNEY, that >christian family values corporation. The president is Peter Paterno - >Glenn's former lawyer." >its funny, cause the I believe 2 or 3 major US churches, including the >Baptists, have boycotted Disney because of their "anti-family" practices, >like actually allowing homosexuals into their theme park, and making a >movie about a priest who molests kids (that never happens in real life). >now they have Danzig ...... Don't forget POWDER - a film that was made by a convicted child molester. What I was talking about was DISNEY's public image. It has always been known as the 'goodie-two-shoes' company. Lately, they've been working on changing their image. As far as the BAPTIST church . . . I've heard, and I've known victims of child molesters who have confirmed this, that the Baptist church is notorious for hiding these creeps. I know one girl who was raped from the time she was 5, until 15. Her pastor told her that God must be punishing her for doing something "really bad". He protected her molester. I'm glad DISNEY is saying "fuck you" to these self-righteous hyppocrates. >From: Rick McClinton >Subject: anti-whine meds; cost of CD's; note for Bobby S. > >Oh, while I'm posting: Bobby Steele -- do YOU (or anyone else around >here) know how the 'beep beep' during DDMD is actually made? The sound >like someone flipping the pickup selector between an on and an off >pickup during a big feedback session? I think you have it. >. Oh, and if you want your 'Boogins' shirt back (I was told it was >yours.. it was found at the 9:30 club like 7 years ago at an Undead >show) it doesent fit me anymore. Shit. Yeah. I got that shirt from SPINE, the guy who did the ACT YOUR RAGE cover. Small world . . . aint it? >And which of your albums do YOU like best? The NEXT ONE ! >From: Scott >Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #230 > >Yo fiends- > Also-if there are any fiends who live around Pittsburgh and love >the Misfits and want = >to be in a band-e-mail me. . . Sorry Bobby we don't need any skinny >old geeks. Aaaaahh-I'm just kidding,man I couldnt resist. Yes, my >mommy does know I'm using her computer-she said it was OK if I didn't >to "Asshole Fuckin' Cunts" so please don't respond. NOW YOU'RE IN BIG TROUBLE. Wait'll your mom sees that I did respond. She's gonna send you to bed with no dinner - and no spanking, either. >From: Misfit >Subject: The Misfits online game!! > >Hey fiends, > I am running what I believe is the only Misfits related online game >on my BBS. . . ., and Bobby...you're in there too buddy! I >didn't talk bad about you, you are a favourable character. =) Of Course ! >From: dave naked >Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 01:03:20 EDT > >Who ever hates Bobby Steele: >Please leave this list. Do you see any other misfit here? no Don't forget Michale has been here. Right Mike ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:30:30 -0500 From: Kirt Knutsen Subject: Keep Taping the Box > Everyone remembers the cartoon show Scooby-Doo from their early > childhood, right? But something you may not remember is what the show was > really all about. The girl with the glasses and the blonde were doing each other. The normal looking guy was doing the dog. As far as the box goes $60-$70 bucks is a rip-off and Caroline knows it. Most of us fiends have all this stuff except for the Static Age Cd and they and Glenn figured they can stick it to us once more. That Collection II came out in November and I bought it like a good little fiend and then I'm supposed to buy it again. Fuck That! I'll wait for the Static age to be released on it's own. Keep taping Laura. Hope Doyle had a nice 32nd birthday on Sunday. I turned 32 on Monday and I'm still alive. I'm reading Henry Rollins Get in the Van and it is excellent. I recommend it to all the Misfits fans who want to know what the scene was like back then. Later,Uncle Kirt ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.com Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:34:12 EDT Subject: NEw Danzig Album Haloween is on a Thursday, not a tuesday. So the new danzig album is probABLY COMING OUT THE 29th. chrs ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Shocking Return Live Record... Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:27:55 -0400 I just got a copy of the Shocking Return CD from a fellow fiend (I'm not sure who) from this list. If you ever get the chance to buy it I recommend you do so. The quality is good to great for what it is. What's cool about it is having the three new songs on it. Its also cool to have a copy of the songs with Micheal singing. Thought you'd like to know....Mark B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:37:58 -0400 From: dirt Subject: Mr. Cotter (welcome back) Feinds, I realize there has been alot of infighting and shit going on, but that stuff dosen't interest me. I read this list because sometimes people have cool things to say, and most of the petty shit--I ignore. But to get to my point, as far as I know, all of the Misfit's Videos that float around are bootlegs (if I'm wrong tell me). I have most of them and try to send copies to anyone who wants them at basically cost. This may take me a little while to get the vids out, but anyone who wants something will get it. I posted a couple of bibles back criticizing the prices Mr. Cotter was asking for videos. As far as I know (unless he was the camera man, and if he was, I apologize), these cannot be originals. So he is dubbing copies of boots, which he has the right (as much as I do) to do that; or selling boot copies he bought at record or video stores. If you did buy these at the prices you are asking, I'm sorry--you got ripped off. But other Misfit's fans should not have to pay these prices to get boot videos. The T-shirts, Vinyl, and other stuff you are selling--I know nothing about, but when you ask for (from your post): MISFITS- Braineaters promo video- fair qlty-$10.00 MISFITS- California 1981-fair qlty- $15.00 MISFITS-Flipside -Boston 1982-good qlty- $15.00 MISFITS-Why be something your not!-Michigan -exc. qlty-$20.00 MISFITS-Goltetto Santa Barbara-good qlty $18.00 It is ridicules. I'm not sure which California show youu're talking about and would have to make sure about the flipside (that is if I have it), but I have the other three at the same or better quality, and would put them on one tape for someone for $10 bucks (and add whatever else the person wanted that I have to fill up a 120 minute tape). Like I said, if you have some sort of special edition (which as far as I know doesn't exsist) I could understand the price. But if you got these as copies from other collectors or payed an exorhbinate price at an outlet store, why couldn't you just put these all on one tape? And distribute boot vids, without profiting? Just my opinion If anyone is interested, here is what I have. It's $10 (pre-paid) per 120 minute tape, and sorry, but it usually takes me 2-4 weeks to get a copy out. Coney Island, NY (1995, 29 minutes) Stone Pony, NJ (1996, 75 minutes) Danbury, CT (1996, 75 minutes) Bethleham, PA (1982, 36 minutes) Creepy Compilation (1983, aprox 2 hours) Skulls, Halloween, and Braineaters Promos (about 5 minutes each) Eagles Lodge (1982, 13 minutes), a better version than what I have on the Creepy Bookies (1981, 27 minutes) Dirt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:43:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: Blackaciddrod fiends, A few things to note here: 1. I can firmly say that Mr. Bricks has not missed to many meals in his days. So I dont think he sacrificed much to get it. and while we are on prioritizing things, I did the same I am in school and it was very important to me to get the box set ASAP, so I preordered it, I saved what I could and I figured out how to get it. It isnt a sacrifice ort making a major life decision to save $60. I mean I wouldnt put getting the box up there with breathing but on a scale of material items that I desired at the time it was #1 on my list. I mean sure it may have cost me and now I cant buy a bag of glenn's back hairs from wess, or that shiney red truck I always wanted but hey "It's all about sacrifice" 2. As for bootlegs I see no prob in them I mean if bands really would get on the stick they would just get these things to their fan base so that you dont need to buy them. I mean look at Chris Ternes! I know that when I see sumthin that he doesnt6 have I pick it up so that I can send it to him and every thing can be available through him to all of us. And all of you should do the same. 3. Now on to Crimson Ghost.... Now he may not of been the most liked person here but he doesnt deserve the spite that all you have given him. Through it all he was a fan, although he may have been a little upset with the band at the end. By no means does he deserve to be insulted and ridiculed, and that goes for everyone here. And it was wrong when he would go after Tess777, but that was between them. And I know cause he and I had it out on a few occasions, and as much as I wanted to hate the guy or go run and bad mouth him to the Jerry I didnt cuz that is between him and Jerry. So the guy didnt see eye to eye with everything everyone said, and yeah maybe he got a little to big for his britches somtimes. But that is his perogative. And like it or not he would spew out some good stuff now and then. And atleaste he had the balls to come out and say what he thought, that is better then how so many people just kiss so much ass to whom ever gets on here who is close or was or is in the misfits. So peace to the Crimson Ghost, may he rest in peace. There will never be another. thats all for now D-Rod ------------------------------ From: J.Baldry@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:39:34 GMT Subject: Tommy Victor/Prong Although it's great to hear that Danzig now has such an excellent guitar player helping out I have been told that Tommy Victor is still very much part of Prong who in turn are still very much an ongoing concern. If the Victor/Danzig partnership DOES continue to a writing/recording stage I think it could well result in a pretty amazing album... that's if they haven't killed each other in the process. Anyone who likes 'Deep' and Danzig's new songs really ought to check out 'Rude Awakening' Prong's latest (criminally overlooked) album. Julian ------------------------------ From: Igrat666@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:40:47 -0400 Subject: Danzig - Philadelphia Core States Center, Sunday September 15th The 2nd show of the tour took place in Philadelphia at the newly opened CoreStates center, home of the Philadelphia Flyers. This place is a HUGE arena and is easily the largest venue I ever saw Danzig in. Unfortunately even tho I'd called and charged my tickets th every moment they went on sale I still ended up in the nosebleed seats. I think the scalpers bought all the good ones - I ran into a gal I'd met before at a Bighouse show who'd bought tix in the front row from a scalper for a whopping $225! Ozzy must have a lot of rich crazy fans! Given that choice I'd rather put my money towards seeing more shows later (as I hope they will eventually do a headlining tour when the new album comes out) First up was a local band who badly wanted to be Alice in Chains, then Sepultura who were again quite good. And then, the moment we'd waited for, the reappearance of Danzig! This time they used the more traditional opening music from Black Aria (I still wonder what the music they iused at Merriweather Post Pavillion was!!???) Again, the stage lights came on and they surged into "Mother" with Glenn again clad in the black mesh shirt. I couldn't quite make out what Lazy and Tommy were wearing except it was all black, Joey bucked the Danzig fashion ettique by wearing a white shirt. The crowd of course all recognized it & roared & sand along. From "Mother" they went into "Until You Call On the Dark" & then the first of two new songs, "Sacrifice". I had a great time dancing along to this - yes dancing, not something I would ordinarily say about Danzig. It's got a really strong beat to it & I'm sure if it got some airplay it would be a big hit. Unfortunately towards the beginning of the set they were having some sound problems so it was a bit hard to hear everything but luckily this got fixed so we were ablwe to fully enjoy the rest of the show. They followed with "Her Black Wings", "It's Coming Down", "Dirty Black Summer", and "Deep" and then the 2nd new song which Glenn introduced as " 7th house". Since I'd first heard it I'd been trying to pin down what it reminded me of and the 2nd time I heard it I was able to say what - the Samhain version of "All Hell". It's a fast pounding song that takes Glenn back to his earlier roots. They followed "7th house" with "Twist of Cain" and ended on "Long Way Back .From Hell". The crowd REALLY dug the show - there was a tremendous amount of applause and I was especially happy to see them diggin' the new songs! I hope this tour gets Glenn a lot of new fans Glenn moved around a lot on the wide stage & obviously was enjoying shaking hands with the fans in the front. Lazy and Tommy are very active and bounce around quite energetically. In all a fantastic show (marred only by being painfully far back - boy do I hate arenas!). How will I live until the new album comes out & I get to hear these new songs again! crossing my fingers for a headlining tour - SOON! ------------------------------ From: "JOSEPH M. NINOSKY" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:21:55 PST Subject: all hell I just got finished reading the last bible and I'd like to say thanks to ingrat666 for the synopsis of the recent Danzig show. I missed that one since I had to come out west. I think that postings such as this one are informative and interesting, and I appreciate your overview of the concert and your experiences with it. Thanks for getting the job done. ------------------------------ From: "JOSEPH M. NINOSKY" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:25:32 PST Subject: Danzig band members Mark, I was wondering if you had any background information on the new Danzig members, such as any previous bands they were in. Any stories or bio info would be cool. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:47:22 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #231 >look, why dont you make BOTH shirt designs available to fiends??? Hey, a lot of people liked Bush better than Clinton, should they have shared the Presidency? -greg ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:07:27 +0200 Subject: gold earth ad what's on this stupid Earth AD Gold crap? Yo can buy the box set for less than $75 and I'm sure it has the same songs and more. I think any single cd over $25 is a bit much. well, \/\/hatever... -GRRRReg- -"We all want our time in hell"- -http://homepage.interaccess.com- ------------------------------ From: UNDERMYNE@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:49:27 -0400 Subject: Bible Post Hello Fiends, Just a reminder that THEORY X issue #1 is out and has a killer 3 page interview with BOBBY STEELE. Its only $2 postage Paid. Also, I listened to the DEVILOCK demo. If you haven't heard it you should try it. It doesn't sound like the Misfits much, but some of the music is actually cooler sounding. The vocals are definately not glenn, more like Garth Brooks if you ask me. But the originality is overwhelming. Oh yeah, please send me $2 and I'll send you an UNDERMINE/ FDS split 7". It sucks but its cheaper than a frisbee. also available is LINT the 21 song demo($3), Absolutely Johnathon ($5), RAW recordings CD comp ($6PPD) and GogmaComp vol. 1 ($3). GogmaGod Records Rd 1 box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, NY 12592 Devils are born in angels arms. Tom Undermine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:05:53 -0400 From: Horror Businessman Subject: pin hey, does anyone out there have an xtra fiend club pin/badge from the box set? if so i'd be interested in buying one. wes-you rule oh yeah, enough with taping the box set. i've been guilty of taping shit for friends blah,blah,blah. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:07:49 -0700 From: adam bodnar Subject: blackacidevil It looks like the October 31st release date of Danzig's blackacidevil might be pushed back to November 6th. By the way, does anybody know when Caroline is going to issue the Misfits Tribute album? Does anybody know when the new 'fits album is coming out (March??) and do they have a working title for the album? Is the album also going to be distributed commercially or through the Fiend Club. By the way Mark, can you help me out? I sent in a letter to join the Fiend Club and I used the address that is listed at the end of the Misfits Bible, but the letter was sent back to me with a note saying that the address was no longer in service. Is this a postal error, or are they guys only accepting a certain number of subscribers? Diabolos '96 ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:32:03 -0400 Subject: Stuff Hey Fiends, AZ--That wasn't a slam against you about the Earth AD thing....I hope I put the :) at the end. Speaking of you, I asked you a few times about the vid trade, what did you want in return? I got it a few days ago, and RS is great, but the Black Flag thing is cooler than I expected! Thanks a lot!! Clear vinyl of Collection II? Has anyone actually seen these for sale? I have one, but I won it....I've never seen one for sale, and a guy at this store in Milwaukee freaked out when he heard I have one....what an odd fellow. Question---New Danzig album on Halloween? Don't all albums come out on Tuesday? Halloween is on a Thursday. Maybe an exception will be made. Is it me or is "Black Acid Devil" not nearly as cool as "Black As The Devil"? I mean....eh, I don't know. It'll grow on me....I didn't like 4P when I first heard it. Misfits/Type O show. This was the first two new Misfits appearances. They didn't tour with them, but the band came out and did several songs during the encores on 10/30/95 and 10/31/95. The Halloween show is available on tape (through yours truly), and I'm trying to track down the 10/30 show (which I'm getting close to). Speaking of Type O! Chicago Fiends going to the show: The guy with the Glow-Go shirt that's autographed by Jerry and Doyle, and who's about 5"7' with extremely short hair is me, so by all means come up and chat....I'll probably be towards the back, as I'm probably going to get there late and doubt I'll be in the fighting mood to get up close. Igrat666---Sepultura played?? I though the whole tour was cancelled as Max's kid died. A SAMHAIN TYPE SONG? I'm officially excited. Every day I hate industrial more and more. Hammer of the Rok Godz for $30? Yikes! I paid $6! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:44:32 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: So long...farewell... -From the Todd Lodge- Well, Fiends, it's been nice. I just wanted to make a final appearance on the Bible before I depart. I figure I haven't posted anything in a long while, and I have deleted the last 2 Bibles without even reading them. Mark, keep up the good work. I hope the Bible can hopefully regain some of it's worth when some of the members actually start posting things that are worth reading. I've met a lot of cool people on the Bible and hope to stay in touch with some of you. If you feel the same way, or just want to talk to somebody about martial arts, music, history, film, why people suck, or anything else really, e-mail me at bjt@u.arizona.edu I'll be seeing you, Ben(ito) ############################################################################## "We came here to wreck everything and ruin your life. God sent us." -Sonny, ROMPER STOMPER ############################################################################## ------------------------------ From: "O'Donnell, Sean B." Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 22:22:00 PDT Mark, Hi could you post this for me? Thanks. Keep up the good work. your page blows my mind! Misfits/Samhain Records for trade. Here's what I got Samhain "Unholy Passion" 12" First press, tan cover, sealed Samhian "Initium" 12" Second press great condition Samhain "November Coming Fire" 12" First Press with lyric poster great condition Misfits "Halloween" 7" Original Orange sleeve with lyric sheet Misfits "Beware" 12" (I think its a boot) red vinyl Undead "Never Say Die" 12" Original German Pressing in absolute mint condition. Signed by Bobby Steele, pretty rare Morning Noise/Parasites 7" "Live Nightmares" (Mourning Noise has Samhain members) limited to 2,000 copies, came out 1990 Undead "Act Your Rage" 12" Blue Vinyl Here's what I'm looking for: Hardcore Music Memorabilia ( records, T-shirts especially from bands such as Youth OF Today, Bold basically any band) Late 80's early 90's Skateboard stuff. Especially T-shirts/ clothing from Powell Peralta, Vision, Alva basically any company. Write if you have boards also. I'm also looking for the swatch with the white face and a black X on it. So there it is. If you have what I'm looking for write me via e-mail at so242639@wcupa.edu Or call me at (610) 430-4033 Or write me Sean O'Donnell 727 Southview Dr. Landisville, PA 17538 Thanks, Sean O'Donnell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 01:07:49 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: What can i say... Hello fiends... Now that we are back to normal in an ever so slight sence of the word. Mark looked over the songs and we agreed on 2 winners: 1) the luck guy who gets a copy of the live video footage and some flyer copies is: Franz Ardito with his song 20 Hours 20 HOURS -------- 20 hours in this jail i'm goin' insane, i'm goin' insane when you're staying 20 hours in a jail you can't get your work done, baby when you're staying 20 hours in a jail you can't get your work done and all those hours, and Jerry's gonna kick my ass and all those hours, fucking Washington 20 hours in this jail i'm goin' insane, 20 hours in this jail i'm going (going, going) INSANE 2) this lucky guy gets some copies of some of those rare flyers. Which goes to Rick McClinton. with his song Death Capitol City Jail. death capitol city jail they take your laces and set your bail and all the demons they start to wail in death capitol city jail smashing on a little freak jackboots raid and the fiends all shriek toe the line, no room to speak while the strong prey on the weak and all the demons they start to wail in death capitol city jail red light muggings happening gangs of demons, city bleeds city cries and city screams jackboots gathered to pounce on fiends and all the demons they start to wail in death capitol city jail. guys please send me your addresses so i can mail out your stuff as soon as possible. the other entries were: PHGJ92B@prodigy.com ERIK LINDBERG with: Romaine to the tune of Green Hell Here on this plate lie the greens of salad Low fat ranch dressing Here on this plate are fresh baked croutons Low fat ranch dressing Romaine You've come to eat like you know you should I know you always want to eat it Don't you take a taste of anything Until you've said your graces Romaine We're gonna eat salad Romaine Like all lettuce but kind of weird Romaine We're gonna taste this mess we've made Romaine I think you'd better pass the pepper Romaine Gotta find a way to get more taste Romaine Cannot forget about these greens Low fat ranch dressing Green-leafed salad Romaine You've come to indulge like you know you should I know you always want to eat it Don't you take a taste of anything Until you have said you're graces Romaine Here on this plate lies spinach and greens Low fat ranch dressing Here on this plate lies shredded carrots Romaine You've come to eat like you know you should I bet you never before tasted it And don't you try a single thing Until you've said your graces You've come to eat like you know you should I bet you never before tasted it We're gonna eat salad Romaine -- The Health Food Store Song to the tune of Die, Die My Darling Buy, buy, buy my tofu Don't utter a single word Buy, buy, buy my tofu Just taste my healthy food I'll be seeing you again I'll be seeing you next week Are you sick of it already Try some organic lentil stew Are you sick of it already Should have tried some imported fruit Are you sick of it already I didn't know you liked hibiscus flower Are you sick of it already Vegan girl for a vegan guy Are you sick of it already You spilled prune juice on the floor Are you sick of it already Buy, buy, buy my tofu Don't utter a single word Buy, buy, buy my tofu Just taste my healthy food I'll be seeing you again I'll be seeing you next week Are you sick of it already Buy, buy, buy my tofu Are you sick of it already Buy, buy buy my tofu Are you sick of it already Beaneaters (To the tune of Braineaters. All ye present chant "Oi!") Beans for dinner Beans for lunch Beans for breakfast Beans for brunch Beans at every single meal Why can't we have some greens Beans are all we ever eat In this vegan-friendly place Beans are all we ever eat Why can't we have a change of plates -Chubbs ---- Neil kaiser27@matrix.newpaltz.edu Dole (sung to Skulls) Dole I am and in your face I'll breathe And see you face turn blue and green And your puke comes out kidney beans We'll feast tonight I'm Fucking Dull I'm fucking Dull My talents are null I'm so damn dull Republican I am in the polls I dive Don't know if I'm dead or alive But my ratings fall down like dirty rain We'll drown tonight I'm fucking dull... So fucking dull I'm really dullzzzzz.... *snore* ---- Oh and to recap Bobby's song if you did not see it the first time it was posted: From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) FEEDBACK BULLSHIT (LONDON DUNGEON) They call us greedy bastards Just in it for the cash But when you fuck the sound up your brains I'll fuckin' bash You're getting paid to do this paid for doing shit I'm supposed to hear my voice, dick Not some high-pitched wail I'm getting sick and tired of this feedback bullshit I'm getting sick and tired of this Glenn clone shit 'cause when those speakers wail I'd rather go - to jail . . . than deaf well thanks again for the entries and hope everyone likes the songs. On to, the t-shirt thing: Now listen up cause we need to get this straight. We did the t-shirt voting with all sort of detailing, what you people wanted the shirt to look like, where the main design would go, where the logo would go, even as far as what the main design should look like. We spent over a month on voting alone. This is where we are, we have a great looking design, which applies to us. We function as a group on a computer three times a week, we don't have weekly meeting where we see everyone and so the design depicts exactly what we are. Don't get me wrong, i like John's design too but his did not get as many votes as Greg's did. Fair is fair. Shit give Greg some fucking credit here, he's been busting his ass for months on this thing. It didn't end after he won, he was then informed that he had to refine the design, prep it for the silkscreening process (which is not easy) plus it also ment paying for supplies to do all of the above. Prepping a design for the internet is easy compared to what he had and is still doing to this moment. So cut the guy som slack here. And let's get off the holier than Punk crap. The fact is we are talking about a t-shirt that will be rarer than some of the original Misfits records. Made only for us. next, Ken i sent you the video over a year ago, and if i didn't i can't since someone never stays in the same place for a very long time, hint hint. Warhammer thank you, this whole thing seemed to be out of control. To: KOSIEKKJ@AXP.CALUMET.PURDUE.EDU, i am not fighting or even hate Adam 7. I have no idea why he flamed me in the first place or Bobby for that matter. The whole thing was stupid anyway. And over!!! Well time to go, remember to keep sending in your ***T-Shirt*** orders to Dave Naked (thank you for clearing up the e-mail address thing Dave.) Later to all the fiendies!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:30:49 +0200 From: Richard Subject: Geffen & mailing list Hi Fiends, I read about The Misfits signing to Geffen. That can't be true!? If they sign they'll probably be forced to make MTV-videos to their singles and all that shit. Damnit... I don't want every turd in the whole world to listen to the same music as I do. Call me an ego but thats how I feel. After all, The Misfits belongs in the underground, not in Top-ten-lists or on MTV. Jerry, Michale, Dr. Chud or Doyle... If you read this, take a second thought about signing to a major label. I'm sure a lot of your old fans will leave you with your new MTV mainstream-fans. (you'll get a whole lot of $$$ in your pockets, maybe thats the reason?) Canceling tours sucks too! I was really looking forward to see you for the first time! And to Mark: I vote for #4. Delete all irrelevant posts. Maybe you could make a "Flaming list" to put em in. hehe. To Emil Bondesson: Thanx for the videos and the diediemydarling-postcard. Email me! (ive got a new address) yours Richard ------------------------------ Date: 18 SEP 96 09:48:09 EDT From: GKichlin@mobile.bam.com Subject: The Last Bible!! I was shocked at my computer to see one post and it was Marks. As I read on I saw that what was going on was what I told my friend Art Z about 3 months ago, that the Bible was no longer about the Misfits, it was about crap and flaming people. I learned alot about the Misfits for the first few months that I received the Bible and it brought a smile to my face at work when work started to suck. But now, I'm like this is a waste of time to read because there is nothing interesting in it about the Misfits and that is what this Bible was supposed to be about. I told Art I was ready to bag the Bible about 2 months ago but he beat me to the punch. Mark, If you do anything, keep the Bible coming out 3 times a week but just blow out of the water all the posts that have nothing to do about the Misfits. I'm going to keep on reading the Bible, but I hope it gets better!! I'm also estatic that the Misfits will be playing october 31, Halloween night, which is also my birthday and also will be my 30th birthday!! This is no bullshit and will be a killer night for me. Can anyone get me backstage passes, it will be the best birthday ever!!!!!! Peace!!! gfk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 01:46:37 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Alan Subject: Unsubscribers can't hack it What is up with people unsubscribing... I learned fast that just about the only worthwhile posts these days are either alluded to or made by Mark himself anyway, so I just read Mark's comments and breeze thru everyone else's rants. How hard is that? "You'll be back!" --Groundskeeper Willie (Simpsons) Hell, what is this, at least the second time CG has "unsubscribed" anyway? C'mon, even when this group is filled with posts by morons it's still the best damn forum out there. I can remember five years ago I was desperate to find something like this. I ain't letting anybody else's ego trip ruin it for me. Teevie >:0P ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 1996 15:26:35 +0000 From: Cotter Tim MSM GRPP US Subject: Message-Misfits Stuff Sale Just to let everyone know. I will not checking my Email until September 30th. So if you have sent payment, but I have not received it yet-it will not be sent until October 1st. Sorry for the inconvenience. Also, for those who have order but have not sent payment. Please let me know if you still want the stuff you ordered. I have had alot of people reserve things but have not sent money. For everyone-* If your payment is not received by September 30th-do not send it, because it will be sold to next person who wanted it. In October, I will have new list which will have everything that is available again. Also, from now on is will be first payment received gets the item. Money will be returned to slow people. However, priority will be given to people who I have already received payment from(you can still reserve items)- If your received free stickers in order-your one of them. Thanks, Tim ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:43:29 -0400 Subject: In Honor of Igrat666 For a while now, people have been talking about how much the Bible has declined, how there aren't any good posts to read, etc. I agree. Over the past year, talk about the Misfits or related topics has gotten less and less frequent. I'd rather read those Glenn Vs. Jerry posts than all the "flames" that are posted. But who's to blame for this? Mark? No. Mark runs it but he's not an editor. He's just the operator. Do you want him to make shit up if no one posts in anything good? If you don't like the way the Bible's going, if you don't like the posts, either do something about it or unsubscribe. It's that easy. Don't bitch and complain about it. What do you expect anyone to do about it? Don't just sit there waiting to be entertained like a veal and then whine about it when you don't like the way things are going. Do something about it. Post something. A lot of the posts complaining about the Bible are coming from people I've never even heard of before. Where the fuck have you been for the last two years? If you want to unsubscribe, who stopping you? Do you think someone's going to beg you not to? Don't make a fucking federal case about it. This isn't an active/inactive thing so don't get all pissy in that respect. If you don't post often, that's fine. If you post all the time, that's fine too. But this isn't a magazine. This isn't a t.v. show. Don't wait around to be fucking entertained or humored. Mark's not a dancing monkey here to give you something to do. If you don't like the Bible anymore, than just unsubscribe, deal with it (like I am), or do something about it. Just don't bitch about it because you're not going to get anywhere. If you really want to give the Bible a boost, post something of value or don't post anything at all. If people aren't going to post things of value or substance then, oh well, I guess they won't then. But if you have something to say about the Misfits, Samhain, Danzig, the Undead, etc., then say it. Maybe another person will follow suit. And then another. Then another. How do you think this list started in the first place? If you don't like what I'm saying, I don't care. Say whatever you want because I won't even respond. And don't say it here either if you don't have a point to make because it's just a waste of time and a waste of space ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:34:19 -0700 (MST) From: Eleanor Anne Piper Subject: Exactly Just wanted to say that I agree with all of Mark's exactlys and things... > In the beginning, we all seemed to be friends with common interests. The > Misfits were a mysterious band that we all loved, and most of us were fans > of the other related bands. I surely have not been on the bible the longest but I've been reading long enough to see the sharp turn everything has made. I started reading around isuue #75 or so and I must admit that I picked a fight or two back then but this shit has gotten SO completely out of control as of late. Some sort of change has gotta take place cause the same 'ol same 'ol has gotten really tired. >It's pretty much impossible to take stuff like that seriously, and > I hope nobody does. This mailing list shouldn't be taken too seriously > either. After all, its value is close to nothing as a means of > accomplishing anything beneficial. Exactly. (sound familiar? >: ) Take care all; hope we can come up with a good solution. --EAP ------------------------------ From: GOATFIT@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:17:59 -0400 Subject: stuff 4 sale more stuff for sale, all must go, so I might make a deal with you! misfits related ------------------------ ENDPOINT-äIdiotsä cd, all cover songs including 1 MISFITS cover. MISFITS related artwork, and spoof SAMHAIN cover picture. $8.00 SLOPPY SECONDS-äWhere eagles dareä 7ä, red vinyl, Bobby Steele on guitars too! $12.00 SAMHAIN boot 7äs ------------------------------- ãon earth as it is in hellä 7ä, mint cond. $15.00 ãlast gaspä 7ä, mint cond, live songs and demos. $10.00 ãa bucket of bloodä 7ä, mint cond, turquoise vinyl. $15.00 DANZIG and GLENN DANZIG boot 7äs ------------------------------------------------------- ãwho killed marylinä 7ä. $15.00 ãone night in hellä 7ä, live songs. $15.00 ãfresh fleshä 7ä, live songs. $15.00 ãdeath had no nameä 7ä, blue vinyl, demos. $15.00 ãDanzig/Bad Brainsä split 7ä, live songs, #77/1000. $15.00 MISFITS boot 7äs ---------------------------- ãrevenge will be oursä 7ä, turquoise sleeve. $15.00 ãNight of the living deadä boot 7ä, cardboard sleeve, signed by jerry only. $25.00 ãmaxâs kansas cityä 7ä. $15.00 ãlive! 79 the perfect crime!ä 7ä, live songs from Î79, signed by bobby steele. $20.00 ãfiend clubä 7ä, poster sleeve, red vinyl. $15.00 ãa walk among the deadä 7ä, blue vinyl, blue sleeve. $15.00 ãbitch goddessä 7ä, turquoise vinyl, pink sleeve. $15.00 all prices are not final, I will make deals if you give me a good offer. I will trade for items from the following bands only. PARASITES PROPAGANDHI SNUFF GUNS AND WANKERS SINK YOUR MUM URIN-8 DOG PISS HONEYWELL V.O.D. BOUNCING SOULS (greenball crew e.p., cd or vinyl) email all offers to KRINEY@UHAVAX.HARTFORD.EDU THANKS ADAM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam P Segal Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #232 I think the non-Misfits stuff could be deleted. But, I'd keep the related bands stuff, and band stuff in general. Speaking of which, I'm listening to the new Social Distortion. I am surprised at how much you can tell it's Chuck playing drums. Different drummers don't always change a band's sound much, but you can totally tell it's chuck doing those high-hat count offs. (Unless Chuck didn't join in time to do the recordings, in which case I'm hearing things. But, he is listed on the CD as the drummer). What is a wall plaque? I saw them on the list of Misfits merchandise Mark posted. I'm slightly saddened that the Misfits might be on Geffen. I know it makes lots of sense, and doing an indy label is tough and thankless, but if they sign to Geffen the chances of cool, rare, colored vinyl 7" releases are pretty rare. Although, Geffen did do some Nirvana 7"s. Almost 100% Misfits post, thank you! (I tried). -Adam S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:28:21 -0400 From: jaid Subject: Miscellaneous . From what I understand *one* of the reasons this list was started was for the purpose of disbursing information and to talk about the Misfits (and related bands). At the time, many people had a very limited knowledge about the band itself, so there was quite a lot to be written at the time. As time went on, more people joined and the bible got bigger, people got caught up on all the details (or thought they did), so people started sending in less informative, more opinionated posts.Now it seems as though it has disintegrated to little more than a trice weekly package of back-biting bullshit. I really don't know how Mark can stand it sometimes. I would be furious if I created something and had to sit there and watch people ruin it. Here is a rather novel idea, some of you might want to try it: When you feel that someone has hurt your fragile little feelings (how some of you let this happen, I will never understand, but to each there own), look at the header of the offending post. Contained there-in you will find the offenders e-mail address. Write it down if you must. Next, e-mail the offender and take it up with them in privacy of your computers. You see,that way you don't bother the rest of us who are only interested in what is going on with the Misfits and "How was the show?". I like playing my favorite new game though... "Whose Account Did Wes Break Into This Time??". Some of you are not very good at it. You also haven't figured out that it is best to either ignore him if he really bothers you or just smile and play along. One last thing before I get to the Misfits stuff. #misfits on the Undernet. If you happen to be on IRC, hop on the undernet and stop in and say Hello. We need fresh blood. I will warn you ahead of time we don't talk about the Misfits all the time. We can if you want to though. If no one happens to be saying anything, start a conversation. We don't bite (well, not strangers). While I'm on the subject, just because it is called #misfits, it does not make it misfits related and relevant to post to the bible about what goes on in there. They are two entirely separate entities. We also If you happen to go to the channel and have a problem with someone DO NOT: A)Come here and cry about it, or B) Post parts of a logged conversation. What you need to do is either get over it, or, if it tugs at you poor heart so violently that you must tell someone, e-mail me. If and when you do e-mail me one of two things will happen: A) I will tell you to get over it, or B) I will help smooth it over. Now that I purged that from my system.... Mark, what's with this show at the Chance on 9/29? Fact or fiction? I haven't noticed it on the page. -J ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:23:08 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: It's official! The Washington CityPaper has confirmed that Type-O Negative & Life of Agony are playing the 9:30 Club on Halloween. The rumor was that a certain band from Vernon via Lodi NJ was gonna play on Halloween with Type-O. Hmmmmm. -Bricks ------------------------------ From: allroy@richnet.com Subject: My Vote & Graves GONE?! Date: Wed, 18 Sep 96 18:03:04 EST Hey there. I vote # 4. The misfits bible is a great resource and provides a lot of entertainment. But it turned into a bunch of babble and bullshit in the last 6 months or so. I don't think it's that the subscribers are assholes or anything. Most people who are into the misfits tend to be pretty level headed and insightful (beside the newbie guys who are like 14, no offense but i was like that at that age). But at the same time, a lot of them are used to talking to their friends and bullshiting, and not talking to 800 people at once. So they tend to fill the thing up with crapZ_4$. And so my feeling is, take the crap out please. GRAVES GONE>>>? A friend of mine told me on SUNDAY that Mi Michael(sp) Graves has been kicked out of the band about a week - week and a half ago. Could this be due to the move to Geffen? Who knows... Before you guys jump on them for movin to Geffen, I can tell you this... they need a decent PRODUCER or MANAGER who isnt their brother. no offense but the incestuousness ack...(line noise) of the group at present adds to the cheesieness :P Well thanks very much! bi Jon (mark- please move my sub to allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu... thanks!) ------------------------------ From: Ahren Audette Subject: The Misfits and their Bible Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 05:43:29 -0700 Mark and the the ghouls who read the bible, I agree w/Mark-and my suggestion is to delete non-Misfits related posts. I also promise to keep my nasty comments off the Bible, and to send them elsewhere.(I know that sounds like a Boy Scout pledge, but I just wanted you 'n' Mark to know where I stand...) That was some great news in the last issue. I hope Jerry and crew will find happiness, artistic freedom, and major exposure with any big label that picks them up. I can't wait for a new album to come out. I wouldn't mind hearing a few classics rendered by the new lineup,either. Perhaps as b-sides, or extra tracks on the new CD. Well, on with you. See you later. BTW, Mark- I would subscribe, but I plan on getting another address, so I've been holding off. I am the master of procrastination, however...hopefully I'll get that straightened out soon. *******D********* Der Kommissar *****KDK********* ahren@hotmail.com ***DKDKD********* "Unholy water *KDKDKDK********* sanguine addiction DKDKDKDKD********* those silver bullets KDKDKDKDKDK********* a last blood benediction" --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:48:16 EDT From: "Whittle, Patrick R." Subject: misfits in poughkeepsie hey. i know i've alluded to this before, but what's the details on this show. who's the openning act, how much are tickets, etc. also i say flood the fiend club with letters protesting a move to geffen records. that's ridiculous. patrick the poughkeepsie fiend "this isn't really death, this isn't really life, this isn't really anything i think i like" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:50:07 -0500 From: Wes Walz Subject: I'm new hey, I'm new to the whole Misfits Bible thing and this is my first post. What's up with the Misfits bible T-Shirts? I E-mailed Dave Naked but didn't get any mail back, and yes I mailed him at his juno address. First off, I want to say that I just got the box set yesterday and it's well worth $52. On the subject of stealing from the band by making dubs of the box set, I don't see what the big deal is. Everyone has made a copy of a CD, and the only thing on the box set that is really rare (music wise) is the sessions CD. Most of the other stuff you can get on CD at BEST BUY. Even if they do make copies of all of the CD in the set, they still won't have the book, the pin, or the coffin box. So what if you make a copy of the CDS? Some people might not have the 50 or 60 dollars to spend on the set. Yes, I worked hard to get the money for the box set. But I also don't have any bills to pay or any groceries to buy, so I can afford to spend the money. If you can afford the money, buy it, it's worth it! But if you can't, find a friend who does and get a copy. I'd do it for my friends. wes E-mail me at wes16@geocities Visit my haomepage at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/1316 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 19:49:23 -0700 From: Otto Subject: new fit's album What is the new misfits album going to be called? When is it being released? Otto ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:13:32 -0400 From: EVB Subject: Danzig news Hiya folks! It's been a while since I posted, mostly as I didn't have any particular news & didn't want to be involved in the flame wars. So anyway I've got some news to pass on that I felt would be of interest to some of you (if you are reading the bible for Misfits info only & have no interest in Danzig you can just skip ahead) Finally got a chance to catch up with Glenn on the current tour & talk to him a bit & wanted to pass along some of what he told me. Like we know, the new album "blackacidevil" will be out Oct 31st on Hollywood Records. The Martin Emund drawing on the promo flyers with the (variant of the skull w/ Glenn worked in) is not the cover after all, he wouldn't tell me what it looks like & is gonna make me wait! Anyway, "blackacidevil" is also the title of one of Glenn's fav cuts on the album, as is "Come Silver" which is a song he originally wrote for Johnny Cash and after Cash decided not to use it he felt it ws too good to go unrecorded. This is the one that Jerry Cantrell of Alice In Chains played guitar on. He'll be back on the road doing a headlining tour in January along with Lords of Acid which would be a cool double bill (hopefully this should draw a less violent crowd than the last couple tours - I'm tired of crowd surfers kicking me in the head!) Can't wait til then! On the Verotik front there's some new projects in the works including several new series (I am slipping the name of the one about the albino spider woman now..). "Verotika East" will be another anthology title with all Japanese artists that is supposed to be really strange and bizarre - more so than what they've done so far. They will also be doing another model kit of Satanika based on the Simon Bisley painting on the cover of the trade paperback. That's all I remember right now - 4 hrs sleep in 3 days is catching up with me (and I feel like I live on I-95 from all this driving back & forth) - EVB ------------------------------ From: JGellis100@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 22:15:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #232 I can't believe it! it sounds like their selling out! Geffen records? SKATE board decks and now we have to pay for the fiend club! I cried a little when I read this. Jerry, Doyle say it ain't so! ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. 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New songs available 3 stupid things form Hell Bobby Re: copyright law Prong, EVB, etc. Glenn is cool.... Danzig Shows Prong My Black Wings nothing Danzig comic signing Geffen Records ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Russell Subject: apologies and Misfits stuff hey- Well, I was embarassed to see that right after Mark's new list of rules was my message, which contained no Misfits info and some stupid arguments, I thought, man, I look like a jerk. Well I don't give a fuck about dubbing, I think Bobby Steele is "One Cool Cat" (as my high school history book said of James Dean), and well just never mind everything I said. Now that I have the Misfits box set, I find that my favorite stuff to listen to is the "Song Shop" sessions, tracks 8-14. I love the way this stuff was produced, it really brings out the whole 50's mood of the songs. That and the guitar sound, and those real "rocknroll" sounding fills, it's just frigging cool (that was you on those tracks, right Bobby?). The slow Vampira especially kicks mad ass. Here's to the new, improved Misfits Bible aon-1 ------------------------------ Date: 20 SEP 96 14:50:16 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: beep what? Bobby, you responded to -> Oh, while I'm posting: Bobby Steele -- do YOU ( >know how the 'beep beep' during DDMD is actually made? The sound like > someone flipping the pickup selector between an on > and an off >pickup > during a big feedback session? >I think you have it. I think the Roadrunner makes them Beep Beep noises :) But seriously, from a "musicians" standpoint, while I think it is possible that the sound came from guitar feedback, I highly doubt it because the actual tone never changes, it actually sounds like someone is hitting the same key on a keyboard over and over again, and I know Glenn to be a keyboard player and putting keys here and there on Misfits tracks. Though I may be getting a little analytical about this, I feel that if it was feedback, it would be changing tone (getting more squeal) as the song winds on (it is a long song). I've done a lot of recording and playing out of guitar in the past 13 years (not as long as you of course!) and use feedback extensively in playing, and I cant imagine being able to sustain the feedback that long, unless they sampled one feedback and then kept popping it in over and over again, which seems more trouble than its worth. Just my 2 cents ... Somebody else said -> "As far as the box goes $60-$70 bucks is a rip-off and Caroline knows it." .. Actually, that is a rip off, but it is the record store that is ripping you off in this case, not Caroline. I paid $52 for mine at and indie shop, which I found to be quite worth it. ChristoTer -> AZ--That wasn't a slam against you about the Earth AD thing....I hope I put the :) at the end." I think you forgot about the :), but no offense taken, I sent you a private email about the trade. Sorry for the confusion" Thats it. Good job on the rules Mark. It should keep us all focused on the task at hand, talking about the Misfits. And to anyone else who cares, if you have problem with what I write, email me personally, dont waste Bible space flaming my ass, cause I could care less. AZ ------------------------------ Date: 20 SEP 96 15:06:28 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Dancing Monkey??? Somebody said!! "Mark's not a dancing monkey here to give you something to do." The hell he isnt!!! He is here for our amusment! :) ------------------------------ From: z Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #233 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:00:29 -0400 (EDT) > From: "JOSEPH M. NINOSKY" > Subject: Danzig band members > > Mark, I was wondering if you had any background information on the > new Danzig members, such as any previous bands they were in. Any > stories or bio info would be cool. Thanks. Sure - Joey Castillo (drummer since '94) was in Sugartooth and before that Wasted Youth. His brother Lazie was Eerie's bass tech. Mark Chaussee was in Fight. He was recently replaced by Tommy Victor who is still in Prong. > From: adam bodnar > Subject: blackacidevil > > By the way Mark, can you help me out? I sent in a letter to join the Fiend > Club and I used the address that is listed at the end of the Misfits Bible, > but the letter was sent back to me with a note saying that the address was > no longer in service. Is this a postal error, or are they guys only > accepting a certain number of subscribers? Postal error - try again! > GRAVES GONE>>>? > > A friend of mine told me on SUNDAY that Mi Michael(sp) Graves has been > kicked out of the band about a week - week and a half ago. > > Could this be due to the move to Geffen? Who knows... Yep, Michale's out and Elvis Presley had been brought back to life to take over vocals.... Sure... > From: Wes Walz > Subject: I'm new > > I'm new to the whole Misfits Bible thing and this is my first > post. What's up with the Misfits bible T-Shirts? I E-mailed Dave Naked > but didn't get any mail back, and yes I mailed him at his juno address. You're not supposed to get anything back. We're just taking a count. > From: Otto > Subject: new fit's album > > What is the new misfits album going to be called? When is it being > released? As I said last issue - spring '97. No name has been picked yet. mark ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:36:59 -0400 Subject: Stuff Fiends, First off, heard Hand Of Doom on Rebel Radio---yes the Danzig version. I was thoroughly disappointed. In my opinion, it was a slaughter of a great song. Glenn didn't even sound like himself. It could've been the transmition, though.... Anyway, D-Rod, thanks for the positive words....I haven't heard from you in a while--probably my fault. Misfits---talking to Geffen.....yes THE Geffen. The only thing I can say about this is: the band will not change with the signing and just because everyone else likes the band doesn't mean they suck.....and trying to justify that grows tiresome fast.....just because the football team likes "Mother", doesn't make me dislike it anymore than before.... Jon---if Graves was out, I'd imagine Mark would be the first to let us know Danzig coing with Lords of Acid.....sob.....sob. I'm not basing Glenn, I'm not bashing the music---I just don't like it. And, yes, if they really bother me I'll wait outside. Glenn turning sappy, a polite fan, what's the world coming to? EVB---WELCOME BACK!!! You've been missed. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 17:02:21 -0500 (EST) From: 02tjthompson@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Danzig/Ozzy - Cincinnatti Does anyone know what venue the Oct 4 Danzig/Ozzy show is at in Cincinnatti? I tried Ticketmaster...but they said they are not handling that show. Thanks for any help (please respond directly to me if you have any info) Tim "Evil is as Evil Does..." ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 17:05:37 +0200 Subject: watch yo mowf >If you read this, take a second thought about signing to a major >label. I'm sure a lot of your old fans will leave you with your new >MTV mainstream-fans. (you'll get a whole lot of $$$ in your pockets, >maybe thats the reason?) Canceling tours sucks too! I was really >looking forward to see you for the first time! screw you dood, if they make more money, more fucking power to them. don't you go crying that sellout bullshit. F-U -greg ------------------------------ From: "JOSEPH M. NINOSKY" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:08:09 PST Subject: Danzig's new albumn title This post is in response to Christo Ter's askation of whether "Black as the Devil" would be a better title. I would have to say no. "Black acid devil" sounds a bit more commanding, as if it were an assignation of the Glenn personna upon the music itself. Also, it may perhaps be a reference to the outbreak of a certain type of LSD that hit a couple of colleges I know of a few years back. Most are familiar with the "windowpane" variety and the infamous "brown tabs" at Woodstock. "Black Acid" was a slang term applied to a strain that hit pretty hard and supposedly made the user aggressive (to put it mildly). So I for one like the title. I think it's badass. ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Review of the new DANZIG album... Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:39:57 -0400 The radio station I work for just got a promotional copy of the new Danzig record "Blackacidevil" on Hollywood records. This promotional copy only has three songs on it. They are: 7th House, Hand of Doom, and Hint of Her Blood. All I have to say is INDUSTRIAL, forget the Danzig we all once knew and loved. As far as I am concerned its a new band now. It is a very cool record, its just a little more INDUSTRIAL than I expected. The songs are all fast and Glenn's vocal's don't sound like him. They are all distorted. He doesn't sing anymore either. Somewhere but not quite a scream. The music is unfortunalety comparable to FILTER. ( Think, I don't listen to filter). Once again, its not bad-its just not like anything I ever heard from him before. I suppose its just like him to be progressive though. Mark B. Anyone, I collect records and am willing to pay top bucks for and AGENT ORANGE vinyl. Also, SOCIAL DISTORTION "Mommy's Little Monster" on 13th Floor Records. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Bible #whatever From: dave naked Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:29:58 EDT Hello---this is what i got... >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:18:05 -0400 (EDT) >From: Mark Russell >Subject: the shocking return of aon-1 >3. Yes, dubbing is stealing, but I am fully in support of stealing. I wouldnt say dubbing is stealing. If you get a dubbed tape thats truely fantastic, why wouldnt you want the CD? CDs sound better, you can select tracks, and has all original lyrics and artwork. >From: cybernaut@mtsi.com >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 11:32:38 -0700 >Subject: misfits portland or seatlle cd > Are there any Kryst the Conqueror > bootlegs out there? Heh, of what??!! Even if their was a Kryst the Cocksucker boot...who the hell would buy it??!! I have an autographed gold earth A.D. >and it >only cost me $18 new. Ummm, if it was new how was it autographed?? Actually, I got EAD gold CD in Second Coming Records a few months back for $15 new. Anyone out there paying $75 please reconsider. Think about it, you could get a "Halloween" 7" in good/fair condition for $75 or EAD gold CD, made in 92 (???), limited to fucking one billon copies. --- >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:05:14 PST >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #231 >From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) >know nothing about. One thing Jim has, that most people lack is >INTEGRITY. True. > He had the guts to defend Jerry in the beginning, and he >had the balls to come out here and admit he was wrong when he saw my >point. What you fail to see...the same time CG came around to see the light, he started to hate the Caifias. I guess it was somewhat you, but mostly because Jerry fucked him over. >Don't forget Michale has been here. Right Mike ? You know whats really funny...Michale thinks he a big fucking rock star whos *better* than us. --- >From: Mark Allen Blackman >Subject: Shocking Return Live Record... >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:27:55 -0400 > >I just got a copy of the Shocking Return CD from a fellow fiend (I'm >not Can I please get a copy of this. >From: J.Baldry@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk >Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:39:34 GMT >Subject: Tommy Victor/Prong >If the Victor/Danzig partnership DOES continue to a writing/recording >stage I Hmmm...The question is...would you *really* like to see this happen. Glenn has always worked by himself (Yeah, I know...people helped who were uncredited, blah, blah blah....whatever). His sound would considerably change, maybe for the worse. Id personaly rather see him working alone. --- >From: "Dorin M. Petre" >Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:07:27 +0200 >Subject: gold earth ad > >what's on this stupid Earth AD Gold crap? >Yo can buy the box set for less than $75 and I'm sure it has the same >songs and more. Exactly. See ya later kids Mr. Dave Naked _*_*_*_*_*_*_*__*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*__*_*_*_*_*_*__*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_ Dave Naked davenaked@juno.com My GirlFriends Possessed MGFP@Juno.com ...what pants.. ------------------------------ From: halloween@ezenet.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 23:24:11 -0400 Subject: stuff Hi, this is Ian. Two things: 1) Taping stuff: if you buy a vinyl, or cd or anything used, then feel free to tape it, because chances are anyone rightfully owed money from the sale of it has already gotten it. Otherwise, don't. 2) Misfits getting interest from Geffen is great. It shows everyone that they are a really great band, even without Glenn in the band. I think that's cool. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 23:27:52 -0400 (EDT) From: asenath Subject: danzig/loa tour frazetta danzig is goin to tour with lords of acid? that's sort of wierd, but cool anyway. sorry evb, last time i saw lords of acid there were a disturbingly large amount of asshole jock-frat boys there. frank frazetta, the guy who created death dealer etc... has a store in east stroudsburg pa, well anyways 2-3 weeks ago there was a fire in the store and they are having a big firesale starting this saturday, the 21st. well they have a lot of horror related stuff as well as an art gallery, if any of you are in the area you should check it out... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : : : i will live forever, for i am truly blessed. : : my name will live in infamy, synonymous with death... : : -the electric hellfire club : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:10:20 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #233 As for the Misfits related part of this letter I would have to say that I like them. Does anyone eles feel the same? Fuck everyone for not following MY list of rules posted earlier which would have remedied everything. Also, I am only 11 so watch what you say about the younger member's of this list you all you fucking rat soup eater's! YEAH!!!! By the way, for those of you that haven't figured it out yet, I'm Mark. Wes "Oh my gosh I'm so friggin' new to all this!" Walz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 00:28:39 -0400 From: jstjacqu@uoguelph.ca Fri Sep 20 14:02:49 1996 This is J. from Cbmed@cdx.net. My old server crashed, so I've been away for awhile. You now have my new addy take note. Anyone who wants to contact me get in touch at this addy. To Ian and Cara, please mail me. Talk to you all later. J. ------------------------------ From: Misfit4798@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 01:09:37 -0400 Subject: Geffen records, Comic Book, Halloween!!!!!!!!! Hey fiends, First off I have to say I think it's great that the misfits might sign with Geffen, they may finally get the recognition they so badly deserve. On the note of "selling-out", that will never happen. If anyone who has went to a recent show, has payed close attention to the new songs, they'd realize just how true to the original spirit of the band the misfits have remained. Personally the band sounds better than they ever have onstage, they are a band that stays true to what they believe in, no matter what anyone else thinks. Secondly give Jerry and the boys some respect they've been doing this for about 20 years, and I think they'd know if they are about to be exploited by a record company. After all I read in an interview with Jerry that one of the main problems with the old band was that no one took care of the business end of the band, and that now all of that has changed. Thirdly even if Geffen does the largest promotion ever created for a band, I don't think that the world is ready to accept the misfits as the newest "alternative" mainstream band, which is probably what MTV, record companies, and radio stations would label them as. Don't get me wrong I love the band, in fact the best years of my life have been spent listening to the tunes of the misfits. Fourthly I have a feeling that if they do get signed it will be for more of a distributive deal than anything else. Such as, now this only an example "Cyclopian Music" as their record company, like "Plan 9" was, but distributed as a division of Geffen Records. Besides Geffen may decide to just sign the band to one of their own sudivisions of Geffen records. A major question I wanted to ask is what ever happened to the comic book? Is it finished? Is it ever going to be released? If so when, and how? In the new merchandise section of the "PIT" there is a "Die,Die" t-shirt advertised. I want to know is it redesigned like the new "Earth A.D." or is it the same as the shirt made by Brokum. Has anyone ordered any of the models? Are they pre-painted? Are they pre-assembled? Does anyone know any info about the relaese of the misfits tribute album, particularly the date of release? On the Type O Negative home page about a month ago they posted the tour dates with Life of Agony, and announced a special surprise guest on the show at the 9:30 club show. So I figure it might be the Misfits, since at their last D.C. show Jerry told the crowd they'd be back on Halloween. Either way it'll be great to see both bands T.O.N. on halloween, and the misfits on 11-1-96. On one final note anyone who is selling original 7"s please e-mail me at Misfit4798@aol.com I'm looking for Bullet, Horror Business, N.O.T.L.D., 3 Hits, Halloween, and a copy of that new "Ressurection of the Misfits" CD. I know it's a boot, but they sound so great with the new line up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope to see some of you guys at the 11-1-96 show. Later Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:20:12 PST Subject: i GoT a qUeStIoN.... From: misfit6x3@juno.com (Just some Fiend) Hello Feinds and other various scumbags, While listening to The Exploited I have always been confused about if they are NAZIS or not. I can't find any information on them around where i live. From some of their lyrics it's really hard to tell what their deal is. Anyway, I really wish I knew what is up with all of you assholes in this list. When I first came to this list I thought it was cool as hell and I willingly read it every day. Now its to a big fucking battlefeild. What is your deal? Mark you really need to take a little more action over these fuckers. I don't want anybody Emailing me bitching me out or replying to this post being an ass. I don't want to start a fuckin war. Thats not the point of this subscription. I just wanted to make my point clear-so........ just me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:56 CDT From: Mark Lerret Subject: New songs available No new MISFITS until spring ??? Say it ain't so. It ain't !! With a great deal of help from Chris Ternes, I am prepared to offer tapes of some of the new material. I have compiled and remastered some of the tracks from their 1996 dates. The production is by no means professional, and was done by analog equalization of poor-to-average live recordings. The levels are normalized, but sound quality varies as do the masters. The tape consists of 17 tracks of Blacklight, The Hunger, The Haunting, and one of Dr. Phibes Rides Again. They will be dubbed onto a 90 min Maxell XLII, and will have lyrics (thanks Mark via page), and accurate show info. The songs came from SO-36, Ziggy's, Middle East Club. Chameleon Club, and soundchecks from SO-36 and Fabrik. See the WWW page for show specifics. The tapes are available to all MB subscribers for $5 each. That will cover the tape, shipping container, and postage. Check or well-hidden cash only. Please reply via e-mail to lerret@vaxl1.danavictor.com. Full shows are available through Chris ( ChristoTer@aol.com ) If you have any reservations about parting with your cash to an unknown, Chris can vouch for my integrity. No bullshit, no scam, no profit. Just an opportunity to hear Michale sing, and judge for yourself the direction of the band. Mark Lerret Production Leader - Automotive Focus Factory lerret@vaxl1.danavictor.com "He is a fool who leaves things close at hand to follow what is out of reach." - Plutarch (46 - 120 A.D.) ------------------------------ From: MDPPix@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:02:37 -0400 Subject: 3 stupid things form Hell Mark, something really needed to be done, it's good to see you finally took some action. Perhaps we could have used this long ago, but it's not your fault. It's sad that some people with potentially valuable information had to unsubscribe. I fully support the Misfits signing to Geffen, BUT, this makes it more difficult for the true Fiends. There is nothing wrong with a band making new fans, but an MTV crowd at a Misfits show doesn't exactly thrill me. I missed Type O on Friday in Chicago, I went to see the Reverend Horton Heat instead. It suxxxx. 2 good bands playing on the same night. Was anyone there? I'm going to see Mephiskapheles tonight, but you probably don't care Bye Nick Chicken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:17:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam P Segal Subject: Bobby Re: copyright law As one of the few (maybe the only) lawyers on this list, I wanted to correct a slight mistake by Bobby in the last Bible. Taping a live show is illegal. He is right that no copyright attaches to the live performance until it is recorded. But don't forget that all the songs being played are protected by copyright. The bootleg recording infringes the SONG copyrights each and every time it is copied. Also, simultaneous recording by someone authorized to do it secures a copyright on the recording. So if the band is taping their own show while you are also, you are infringing the SONG copyrights and the RECORDING copyrights. Another thing. Selling anything, especially a recording, by using a band's name will infringe that bands right to publicity, which is protected in most states (california and new york are very strict). Also, if a band uses their name for any length of time, they acquire trademark rights in that name. It's like copyright in that you DO NOT NEED TO REGISTER the mark to have rights that can be infringed. (Their are lots of advantages to registering both trademarks and copyrights though). Home taping for personal use is no longer illegal. Remember those record sleeves that said "home taping is killing the music industry"? Well, they changed the copyright act to make it legal and started taxing blank tape, as Bobby discussed. Buying a bootleg is not illegal. A single copy of a recording is considered "chattel" under the copyright act. I.e, it's just a good, which can be bought and sold. Making multiple copies and distributing them is illegal, but buying one isn't. This stuff seems to come up a lot on the Bible so I thought I'd post this info. I love copyright law and issues so feel free to discuss this stuff with me a the above address, but I can't give any specific advice. ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:02:33 -0400 Subject: Prong, EVB, etc. Someone last issue mentioned Tommy Victor's conflicts with being the new Danzig guitarist and working with Prong as well. In some magazine last month or this month (I don't remember which one exactly but it could have been "Alternative Music Press" or something like that), they had an interview with Paul Raven (is that name right?), formerly of Killing Joke and more recently of Prong. Well, according to him, he left the band over some probelms creatively with Tommy Victor. So perhaps the Prong project is on indefinite hiatus. Who knows. Hopefully, as EVB said last issue, Glenn is taking a "we" attitude as opposed to one of "I" and Tommy will feel happy working with him. I'm not a huge Prong fan but from what I have heard, he's a good guitarist. And if Glenn is going towards faster, more "industrial" sounds, he's probably a good choice. Anyway, it's good to see EVB posting again (she's been posting before with a screen name similar to mine numerically!). Hopefully, she'll be able to talk about Danzig, Verotik, and her views on the "new" Misfits w/o feeling she'll be attacked by Glenn-haters. She's a very nice person and great to talk to. So hopefully with the Bible getting a second, clean start, she'll feel better about posting (when work isn't making her crazy). Also, if you have any models you need assembled, painted, etc., she's a great artist. I think she even has a web page dealing with this sort of thing somewhere. Maybe she'll give you the info. Anyway ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: "Lowe, Thomas B." Subject: Glenn is cool.... Date: Fri, 20 Sep 96 12:10:00 PDT Hey fiends, I don't usually post to the Bible very often and what I think Mark has said about the Bible is true. It is getting to be TOO much. I used to enjoy reading the Bible when I signed on a year ago and now it takes me about 5 minutes to browse over it and trash it. Too many stupid posts about nothing and too many flames. Just IMO. Anyhow I wanted to just mention that I got to meet Glenn at his comic book signing on South Street, Philadelphia. I wansn't sure what to expect since I have heard horror stories about Glenn signing things (and what he won't sign) and sometimes personality problems. But, I met a very good natured, friendly Glenn Danzig and it made me even happier to be a fan of him and his music. He was willing to sign ANYTHING that you brought to him and took pictures as well. He said he'll be doing his own tour in January (can't wait!!!) Well, I just wanted to say in short that Glenn is really a cool guy.....looking forward for Danzig 5! Unholy Tom ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 14:08:08 -0400 Subject: Danzig Shows Well, I have to agree with Igrat's posts in the last couple of bibles. I also attended the first two shows on the new tour and I have to say BRAVO to Danzig! I was truly impressed. As much as I love all the old material, the new songs were absolutely brilliant. It is indeed strange to think of a Danzig tune as danceable, but that's what I was doing--on my seat no less--to both! haha! Glenn looked and sounded GREAT and Tommy and Lazie complimented him perfectly. The three of them were all over the place. Oh, and lest I forget, Joey sounded really good as well. I'd heard only good things about Tommy Victor prior to seeing him in action. I really liked his take on the Danzig tunes. Please don't get me wrong, I wish nothing but the best for Eerie, John and Chuck, but they all decided on another course of action and they all currently have other irons in the fire. On that note, Eerie will be playing at Connections in Clifton, NJ on 9/27--I highly recommend it to y'all and it would be great to see some new faces there. Anyway, I really can't add too much to what Igrat said, haha!, other than if you have a chance to check out the tour, do, you won't be disappointed. Oh, one last note, I'd not heard Sepultura before but I really enjoyed them. Very cool. A funny note: I can say that I went to the OzzFest twice and never saw Ozzy, hahaha PDH ps. In case anyone is interested, the opening band in Philadelphia was "Metallic Gypsy." Uh, they definitely were after an Alice in Chains sound :-) ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 14:08:09 -0400 Subject: Prong What's this I hear about a Prong cover of London Dungeon on the upcoming Misfits tribute album? Hmm PDH ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 14:05:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: My Black Wings hello fiends, Is anybody else getting very excited about the D5 blackaciddevil? I dont know about you guys but maybe it is cuz it is close tyo being released, but I have been breaking out all the danzig albums lately. Not that I dont listen to Glenn all the time I just seem to dig the Misfits and Samhain the most. To: igrat666@aol.com Great Reveiew! I am Glad to see that Glenn is back out and Kicking ass again. That sux that you had nose bleed seats. I know that when I saw Glenn about 2 tears ago it was general admission and I could fight my way up front. Doesnt seem right having to sit in a seat for the man! I mean the kind of energy that Glenn has in his shows is amazing. I dont care if the guy 40 or if anyone says he has sold out(which he hasnt), the guy puts on a great show. He doesnt need crazy lighting affects or theatrics. He just puts on display of power that goes from him to the crowd. Though I am down at school now and this tour with ozzy will not come down here, so I wont see it. Although I dont want to see Glenn until he does his own tour. I mean to spend $30 to see glenn do like 12 songs. I mean I like ozzy but I would only want to go to see glenn, and I would prolly leave after glenn. I would rather be able to get right up front for like $15 and watch the MAN do a whole set! I am not trying to diss Glenn at all, I know he usually does this (go out on tour with a big band and then does his own). So what do you guys think? To: EVB Do you have any pics of the new Glenn merchandise? Or maybe some of the flyers, or new pics of Glenn maybe some on stage? It would be cool to get a look at these and get them kup on the page. Good to see you back, now that thingts are cleaned up here we can all have fun! TO: everyone who is bitching about Geffen People we shouldnt care if the misfits are gonna sell out by signing to Geffen. I mean these guys have been doing this music for so long, and have been waiting and pract6icing for 14 yrs! If you care about these guys and have seen them you should be nothing but happy that they are finally recieving some credit for what they do. By no means are any of these guys rich! I am sure that Geffen understands that the misfits are an interactive band, and a big part of their show and their whole personality is based on fan interaction. I am sure that Michale will have to tame it down some (fights and all the crazy shit he does), but geffen has watched these guys and they know. Do you think that Jerry and the guys would change their tune just cause they sign? They are in the position where they have nuthin to lose! I mean hey they were doing nuthing a year ago, and if they sign get some cash record and do the things they want and geffen doesnt like it then oh well, they will just go back and do it thyem selves. But we should realize that with geffen this means that the world will have to see and acknowledge the misfits! They have come this far , worked so hard and they arent about to sell out now! later D-Rod . ------------------------------ From: NikChicken@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:28:08 -0400 Subject: nothing Ok, this may not have to do directly with the Misfits, but I got a new e-mail address so grrrrrreg and Justin and anyone else who wants to e-mail me my new address is NikChicken@aol.com Yeah, still eh oh el, what can ya du? Mark, if ya could mail the Bible to me at the NikChicken address instead of the MDPPix address that would be cool Bye Nick Chicken ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:31:55, -0500 Subject: Danzig comic signing Hey...I just thought I'd write in about the recent comic book signing on South Street in Philly. Me and a friend of mine went and it was well worth it. We both got a bunch of shit signed and asked Glenn some questions. Here are some interesting things learned: Glenn said that the band would do their own tour starting in January. He also said that there should be a new home video out soon. Part of the reason they left American was because of their failure to release the next Danzig home video, according to Glenn. Also I couldn't believe that Glenn was signing Misfits albums and CDs. I didn't bring anything because I thought there was no way he would sign any Misfits material but I saw several people getting this stuff signed. Also, I heard the new album was delayed in coming out but they were giving out flyers and stickers at the signing which say the album title, "Blackacidevil" and "Halloween 1996". I wonder if they would delay the album after promoting it for Halloween so exstensively? Anyway, I am from Philly and was happier than hell to hear the Misfits would be here on Halloween at the Troc. I can't think of a better way to spend Halloween. I hope this is definite? ...Marino ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:12:08 -0500 From: Wes Walz Subject: Geffen Records fiends, I really hope the Misfits decide not to sign on with Geffen records. I have to agree with Richard's post from #223. If they decide to go on with Geffen, then they most likely will be forced to make videos and will become trendy. I really don't want a lot of little wannabe punk posers walking around saying, "Hey, have you heard of that new band called the Misfits?" I think I would cry. Look what happend to Marlilyn Manson, he went mainstream and his music went to hell. There are only a few real songs on "Smells like children." All the rest of the tracks are little recordings of people talking and crap like that. I just don't want to think about turning to MTV one day and see a Misfits video that is a buzz clip. Then the radio would be playing them and acting like they were down with the Misfits all along. I just hope the band thinks about what they're getting into. wes ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Danzig signing, etc. Back to normal... new danzig site? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: x-ray Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #234 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:17:08 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew > A major question I wanted to ask is what ever happened to the comic book? > Is it finished? Is it ever going to be released? If so when, and how? This was finished long ago, but ditched because Glenn wouldn't allow them to use his image in the comic book. For those of you who don't know, in April of 1995 the Misfits started advertising their new comic book. It was going to be (if I remember correctly) a 3-part series documenting the adventures of the band. The first comic book was the only one completed. It was a history of the band, from their birth on Mars to their arrival on Earth as Misfit creatures. > merchandise section of the "PIT" there is a "Die,Die" t-shirt advertised. I > want to know is it redesigned like the new "Earth A.D." or is it the same as > the shirt made by Brokum. Has anyone ordered any of the models? Are they > pre-painted? Are they pre-assembled? Does anyone know any info about the > relaese of the misfits tribute album, particularly the date of release? On The Die Die shirt is a new color interpretation of the original art. The models come unassembled and unpainted. You can expect the tribute album to be released at the end of January. Just for the curious, at the recent comic book signing in Philadelphia Glenn also mentioned that the Samhain box set would be put off for a long time, which is kind of unfortunate. Knowing Glenn, he's going to release it on Halloween - so maybe we can expect it Halloween of '97? When asked what he thought of The Misfits, he responded, "I don't." mark ------------------------------ From: punkin Subject: blackacid...and stuff Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 07:39:33 +0000 Someone in the last bible posted that the "blackacidevil" title for Danzig's next album may have something to do with a particularly tough strand of LSD called black acid. Is this title just a little message from Glenn reminding us of his anti-drug stance? The Misfits on Geffen? I'm all for it. Let's just hope and pray that the Geffen PR reps don't try to market the 'fits as "the next White Zombie". And whoever's concerned about MTV-philes need not worry: from what I've read about Standards and Practices at MTV, the only chance the 'fits will make it on air will be either late-night or sound-bites on a specialty show (i.e. Beavis and Butthead.) Besides, if you love the music, wouldn't you want to share? punkin ------------------------------ Date: Mon Sep 23 01:24:06 1996 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Exploited, Copyright, etc... Exploited> according to the Citizen Fish singer a few years back, Waddey (sp) of Exploited is affiliated with the National Front, a racist & anti-imigrant group in the UK. He has also flirted with Nazism but as Bobby once said someone using nazism as punk fashion doesn't necissarily make them a Nazi. As for copyright law, it varies. Performances in public (IE live) are open game for recording and distrobution in Italy. That's why you can sell a tape made ANYWHERE to those italian companies and they'll make the CDs. They'll never pay any rights. However it works other ways against them, for instance they don't pay songwriting royalties which I think they are liable for... In a recnt case Epitaph stole a few songs for a Bad Religion CD from one of thsose Italian companies. If the italian company tried to claim ownership and royalties for those recordings, they will have to pay songwriting royalties.... so very fun. There's a few books on bootlegging which are very interesting. Anyway, as many have said, bootlegging hurts mainly consumers who will pay anything for boots or legit CDs, and record companies. But only barely. IF there's a demand for some recording, then maybe they could release that recording at a fair price.... For instance the box set. I did buy it. However all I really wanted was the Static Age album. By holding static age back by a year (that's a long time even by record company standards) they gave people a choice: buy the box, buy or make a dub, or wait. people will usually take 1 or 2. and at 65$ (69 is the retail and at 50-55 it's a bargain considering the wholesale cost), most people will make a dub. It's their own fault and using the bands and writers as a "victim" is silly. if you feel bad... cut the band a check for $4. That's about what they would have gotten from the company (royalties for 15$ cds is around a buck according to a recent article) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:07:08 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST opening for Misfits! okay fiends, it's not 100% definite yet, but i talked to the 9:30 club about my band, ADAM WEST, opening for the misfits on friday, november 1, at the 9:30 club in DC and it looks like it's a go! without the help of mark, d-rod, and the misfits themselves, it would not have been possible. so i ask all of you going to that show, please come early enuff to check out my band. more details to follow. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net:80/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:35:10 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #234 Misfits part: I don't know if I have a favorite song, do you guys? Nick Chicken, either change your name or get out of here you sack o' shit. I don't appreciate you, your family, or even your race. Fuck you. Wes"This place is starting to feel like a bunch o' geeks."Walz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:18:23 -0700 From: KLRWLF Subject: So. California Fiends i've only been reading the MB for about 6 months or so, and i've noticed that alot of the fiends on here are from the east coast, (or at least eastern half of the US) well i'm from southern calfornia. if there are any fiends in this area who may be interested in trading or just chatting about misfits related "stuff" e-mail me. R.I.P. KLRWLF ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:15:56 -0600 From: Opus Subject: geffen... hmmm... Alright, I have held this in for an issue or two of the bible. I have to let it be known that I am frightened as hell about the Misfits signing with Geffen. It is just that in the old days, they stayed independent for a reason. They always played smaller venues for a reason. I always thought that the Misfits did these things to stay away from the mainstream, to keep that sense of evilness of themselves. What will happen to that Misfits aura if they go big? michael ------------http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit/-------------------------- "maybe there will come a day when those that you kept blind will suddenly realize maybe it's a part of me you took it to a place I hope it would never go and maybe that fucked me up much more than you'll ever know" -TR ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:38:55 +1100 Subject: Blackacidevil n stuff Hello all just the Warhammer had to put in two cents as always. To Chris: I can understand you skepticism about Danzig touring with Lords of Acid. But with the new sound of a more industrial Danzig it would be a very good mix. Ever since I first heard Lords Of Acid's cd voodo U I have been hooked they have an awesome sound for an industrial/techno band. And there songs are just fun to listen too especially if you find a female fan because they go crazy for it. I have been wanting to see them in concert for a while and if they open for Danzig you bet your ass I will see the show and love every minute of it. Also is it definate that Blackacidevil is comin out the tuesday before Halloween? Also how is it supposed to be pronounced (acid devil or d-evil) Well gotta go fiends The Warhammer "Wake up blimmey feesh"-Kevin Kline-A Fish called Wanda ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:03:21 +1100 Subject: One more thing Just the Warhammer again forgot to mention to any feinds in the Erie area Dan Rapela's metal show on werg 89.9Fm energy Fm 90 will be doing an interview with Glenn Danzig in the following weeks as well as premiereing the new album also he is interviewing King Diamond and premireing his new album from what I've heard of it it rules. also He has a premiere of the new Korn album as well as an interview for more info tune into energry fm 90 89.9 on you Fm dial Rapela's metal show is on every friday from 6:00 tili 10:00 bye yall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:34:19 -0700 (PDT) From: ADAMN#15 Subject: TRENDY BASTRDS MUST DIE!!!!!!! This is to all of those people out there who think that having trendy punk posers at misfits concerts. I think it is the greatest thing because you have an excuse to kick some ass. These posers usually stand around the pit, just watching, too scared to go in. You can go by and give them a good ol' Gordie Howe elbow to the skull. They are usually too scared to do anything. My brother loves to just destroy these pansies. Laters.... ADAMN#15 "Woman, my odd six." Al Bundy ------------------------------ From: Kirt Knutsen Subject: Geffen Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:53:52 -0500 (CDT) I can't believe all this insane, selfish bullshit about the Misfits signing to a major label. Of course they should sign. And I'm sure they will. They don't give a shit what you think. Sure they appreciate the Fiends, but it seems to me the reason you practice and write songs is to earn a living doing what you love. How long do you think a band can last touring constantly and living on a bus? That and tee-shirts is the only source of income. Wake up. "I just want the music all to myself. I don't want to share with the MTV crowd." Fuck you. I wish the Misfits all the success they want. Uncle Kirt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:59:50 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Addicted to noise story Got this from the Saturday edition of Addicted to Noise. Not much new info, but it does give a couple more song titles. Danzig Ready To Scare You Again Hey, Danzig for Halloween. What could be a better treat? The new Danzig album is complete, and will be titled Blackacidevil. The album will be released--are you ready to this?--on Holloween. That should make it even more scary. The first single, "Sacrifice," is not actually about ritual sacrifice," according to Glenn Danzig himself. Rather, Danzig claims it's "basically bout sacrificing yourself throughout your life. It's about giving a little more than you should be giving. It's not about ritual sacrifice... it's a play on words, not about killing animals. It's more about killing yourself, little by little." Other songs on the album: "Hint Of Her Blood," "Ashes," "Power of Darkness," and a new version of the epic Black Sabbath classic, "Hand of Doom," with new lyrics penned by Mr. D. Danzig it already out on the road, opening for Ozzy (Osbourne, that is). The new album is said to have more of an industrial sound, and features Alice In Chains' guitarist Jerry Cantrell on three tracks: "See All You Were," "Come To Silver," and the aforementioned "Hand of Doom." Top of page or Previous News ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:58:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matt From MI" Subject: Re: Last ish. Finally, I got an e-mail account. Anyway, to the guy who was asking about the exploited. On UK/DK, The singer talks about the fact that in the late 70's/early 80's it was hip to wear fascist armbands and such whether you were a fascist or not. I don't think they've ever came out as Nazi's, I don't think they are, I just think they hate everybody. Basically I got a kick out of the Exploited because the way their songs are, if they're true to everything they say they shouldn't be making a penny, should be living in a gutter and running bombing missions against the United States in their spare time. Not that I don't like the Exploited or anything, I just think if you take yourself as seriously as they do you end up running the risk of being called a sellout no matter what you do. As for The Misfits signing to Geffen.. Ick. Perhaps the most unsetteling part about this is that the 'fits would would be "Forced into" making videos for MTV as one person said, they would willingly do it. No one forces you to do anything, no one forces you to sign to Geffen, you do it because you want more money. When I start hearing stuff like this I start getting the feeling that maybe it WASN'T luck of the draw that the fits happened to reunite at the xenith of this "Punk revival" shit. I know it would make all of us very sad too actually see the Misfits on MTV, regardless of how much you say "Oh, bands have the right to make money.. etc etc.." But if the Misfits feel they need more exposure and more fans, I guess they can do what they want. Maybe they'll actually see how their real fans feel about things such as this and reconsider. But right now, I doubt it. That was awfully depressing, wasn't it? Since this is the first time I've been able to post in a long time, let me briefly say that I was at the Undead show in Grand Rapids, MI a while back, got to sing Ratt Fink, part of Last Caress, got to hug Bobby, meet cool guy named Paul from Lansing, a cool guy named Skeeter, and so on and so forth. I suggest all of you see Bobby if you get a chance, as well as the Migraines, they're very entertaining. Since Bobby hasn't been on the IRC though, I haven't been able to express that we were all deeply regretful that the show didn't have a bigger turnout, as we all expected it to. Bobby at that show fell victim to a venue-rivalry, mainly a hardcore show being booked the same night as the Undead show by some other guy because he didn't like the guy who ran the venue the the Undead played at. Hope that doesn't discourage you from playing our area again. Myself, Gabe and Brian (My friends that I was at the show with, Gabe being the one who wrote the review on this list the day after the show happened) would have no problem making the long trek to Muskegon or anywhere else to see you where there might be more people. :) Does everyone agree that Michale sings the Walk Among Us stuff the best? I know this only from the Bootlegs I've heard, seeing as I had to go on vacation the day that the 'fits played in Grand Rapids. Many things around my house were broken, needless to say. :) Matt Voodoo Child sXer and Fiend at Large Check out my page! www.grfn.org/~gravis - "I'm Crazy, and I'm hurt" -Black Flag - "You stand to the side, Rebirth of HARDCORE PRIDE!" -Gorilla Biscuits - "Fuckin' people that I see, always fucking starin' at me" -The Undead - "I go out looking for the elusive bikini spider.." -The Migraines - "Oi! Oi! Oi! Chosen few, this is what we think of you.." -The Business - "Out of step with the world!" -Minor Threat - "I don't need to waste my time, I don't need more shit." -S.O.A. This large sig will be readjusted with new quotes periodically for your reading pleasure. ------------------------------ From: Blkczr@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:56:42 -0400 Subject: guitar cabs Does anyone know what kind of guitar cabs doyle use's??? Are they 4x12's or 8x10's or what???? also does anyone know what kind of heads he uses?? I think their ampeg V4's but i am not sure. jamie ------------------------------ From: "JOSEPH M. NINOSKY" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:28:12 PST Subject: Guitarists welcome Seeing as the TAB pages for the various Glenn projects are the greatest, it should motivate more of the guitarists who are bible members to post some TABs. Now, I know I myself have been lax about getting some on the pages, but what I am hoping for is for a power ass guitarist to transcribe some of John's solos, as they are out of my league right now. More guitar action, dammit! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:52:51 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #234 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Okay, before I forget - here are some more TIMES SQUARE dates: SUNDAY SEPT 29 11 PM FREE SHOW THE CONTINENTAL 25 THIRD AVE, NYC w/ THE BRICKBATS SATURDAY OCT 5 9PM $5.00 JAILHOUSE ROCK 30 MOUNT ROYAL WEST MONTREAL w/ JINX / les fouls allies WEDS OCT 9 10PM LUNA LOUNGE LUDLOW ST (below Houston), NYC Don't get so utight about the GEFFEN thing. I doubt that it's gonna change their sound or attitude. Sure, it'll be more difficult to meet them, but it's the music that's most important . . . and IF they do sell out . . . you still have THE UNDEAD and TIMES SQUARE ; ) >Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:44:27 -0400 (EDT) >From: Mark Russell > I think Bobby Steele is "One Cool Cat" (as my high school history > book said of James Dean), and well just never mind everything I said. Damn. Now that's good company to be in. >Now that I have the Misfits box set, I find that my favorite stuff to >listen to is the "Song Shop" sessions, tracks 8-14. I love the way this >stuff was produced, it really brings out the whole 50's mood of the >That and the guitar sound, and those real "rocknroll" sounding fills, >just frigging cool (that was you on those tracks, right Bobby?). That's me. That was always my impression of the music back then - very 50's. >From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com >Subject: beep what? >Bobby, you responded to -> Oh, while I'm posting: Bobby Steele -- do >YOU ( >know how the 'beep beep' during DDMD is actually made? . . . >But seriously, from a "musicians" standpoint, while I think it is >possible that the sound came from guitar feedback, I highly doubt it >because the >actual tone never changes, it actually sounds like someone is hitting >the same key on a keyboard . . . >feedback, it would be changing tone (getting more squeal) as the song >winds on . . ., unless they sampled one feedback and then kept >popping it in over and over again, which seems more trouble than its >worth. I don't know if samplers were too common at that time. Actually, if you try it, you'll see the tone doesn't change because, just as the tone is about to change; you shut it off. When you turn it back on - you're starting all over again. Then again . . . I wasn't there either. >Subject: Re: Bible #whatever >From: dave naked >Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:29:58 EDT > >What you fail to see...the same time CG came around to see the light, >he started to hate the Caifias. I guess it was somewhat you, but mostly >because Jerry fucked him over. Exactly. I think that's what helped him see my point. >You know whats really funny...Michale thinks he a big fucking rock >star whos *better* than us. Where do you get that from ? Michale has an open mind. He does monitor this bible, and adds his two-cents worth when he can. C'mon; I was so sceptical of anyone ever filling Glenn's shoes. I gave Michale the respect for having the courage to even try it. I'm satisfied - so far. Now I want to listen to HIS songs. >Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:10:20 -0500 (EST) >From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #233 > > As for the Misfits related part of this letter I would have to >say that I like them. Does anyone eles feel the same? NO. I'm sick of their bubblegum pop music. Now lick me ; ) Great to have you back Wes. >From: Adam P Segal >Subject: Bobby Re: copyright law > >As one of the few (maybe the only) lawyers on this list, I wanted to >correct a slight mistake by Bobby in the last Bible. I STAND CORRECTED. I guess it's a good thing that I always taped THE UNDEAD at every show. I make it very clear to clubs that I won't tolerate taping. I've been put in a position where I've had to take tapes away from people that I've caught taping our shows. Still, there are UNDEAD bootlegs out there. BTW/ Since I own some live recordings of THE MISFITS, that no one else has . . . can you clue me in as to the legalities of getting these released if Glenn or Jerry don't agree to it ? I've heard there is a way, but that's as much as I know. You can email me personally ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:32:26 -0400 Subject: Evil >2) Misfits getting interest from Geffen is great. It shows everyone that >they are a really great band, even without Glenn in the band. I think that's cool. well, guns 'n roses were (are?) on geffen too. does that mean they're good? i think it is good for them though. i hate to say it but all you people saying "...i don't want (so-and so's) listening to the misfits..." are way out of line. just think about it...is the music yours? will it make the music worse? or change the quality whatsoever? now, i'm not trying to start a flame war. you can think what you want, but think a little. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:42:41 -0500 From: 138 Subject: Geffen I just want to say that if the Misfits sign with GEFFEN it will really suck. I can just see myself turning on MTV one day and seeing one of those vee jays or whatever they are called saying, "That was Green Day with Brain Stew,coming up next we're going to have some videos from Oasis,The Cranberries,Mariah Carey and a new one from those spooky guys,The Misfits!!!!But first heres one from Bone Thugs and Harmony." GET THE POINT? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:00:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Last Bastard of Rock My long anticipated return has arrived. How have you all survived without me? Send all the mail you can. Love and kisses. J. P.S.-if anyone has a cool screen saver, please send it to me. ------------------------------ From: Craig Wieczorkiewicz Subject: The New Danzig Album Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 20:22:59 CDT Fellow Fiends, The radio station where I work got the same promo for the new Danzig album that Mark Allen Blackman wrote about in the last bible...and I agree with him wholeheartedly. Industrial IS the word for it...the new songs sound like they're sung by Trent Reznor, not Glenn Danzig. Oh well, so Glenn decided to pull a Metallica on us... And for anyone in Dupage County, IL who's looking for a great metal station to listen to, tune in to 88.7 WRSE-FM on Fridays from 1 p.m. til at least 1:30 a.m., usually longer. It's a college radio station that usually plays alternative crap, but plays metal and related music on Fridays. And since it's a college station, they're a little more daring (and kickass) in their musical selections than the big-name stations are. Now that was a painless first post... Zork "I remember Halloween..." ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:00:30 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #234 I have to say that that was one of the most relaxing and easy to read issues in a while! all i have to say now is: FUCK YOU ALL!! :) ***that is a joke*** -GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReg ------------------------------ From: Misfit4798@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:59:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #234 Hey fiends, I just finished reading the Bible #234, and I have to remark on how nice it is not to have to sift through arguments and personal fights in order to find out news about the misfits. To me this was one of the best issues I've ever read. I do however have to pose a question, I noticed there are a lot of Glenn-bashers out there. Granted I have read, and do understand what an ordeal it has been, and how big of a jerk Glenn has been to his ex-bandmates concerning many issues. I have to ask everyone who has dogged Glenn in the past, myself included, how many of us would actually have heard of, or even listened to the Misfits. I owe it all to Glenn, in fact before the misfits got back together, the 2 best concerts I had been to, had both been Danzig concerts (Let's face it the man puts on a hell of a show). If I hadn't loved "Killer Wolf", from the first time I saw the video on Headbangers Ball, and bought "Lucifuge" and listened to it so much, I probably wouldn't be posting this today. If anyone thinks his new album is "different", I wonder if you've ever listened to "Black Aria". It's one thing to not respect him for his actions, but you've got to respect him for his music. I also think the same applies to Bobby Steele, all of us are entitled to our opinions, but we should really stop dogging him and start appreciating the fact that he does at least keep in touch with us. To me Bobby seems like a genuine guy, and personally I think "The Undead" rock. Just look at the Undead they haven't had a stable line-up, and they still manage to sound awesome. I have a question for Bobby if he's reading. I have "Never say Die"," Act your Rage", "Live Slayer", "Tomkins Square", "Invisible Man", and "Evening of Desire (12")", I was wondering if there are anymore Undead recordings, or 7"s that I don't have? If you want you can e-mail me at: MISFIT4798@aol.com Before I go, I really want to thank Mark for the recent changes to the Bible, from what I can see they are definitely for the better. Also if anyone wants to sell any original 7"s of the Misfits I still need some, e-mail me if you're interested. I'm also looking for that "Shocking Return of the Misfits" Bootleg, or any other decent sounding recordings of the new line-up. Later Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:48:27 -0500 From: Brian Cox Subject: geffen & copyright laws > I fully support the Misfits signing to Geffen, BUT, this makes it more > difficult for the true Fiends. There is nothing wrong with a band making new > fans, but an MTV crowd at a Misfits show doesn't exactly thrill me. a lot of people have been talking about the Misfits sighning with Geffen and what it will do to there popularity and radio play. Now who does Geffen have on there label? They had Nirvana, and now they have Beck, and some others. None of these bands are what I would concider, with the exception of Nirvana big time bands. Beck gets MTV time but it is still easy to get to a Beck show. Sighning with a major label doesn't always mean they will become mainstream. An example of this could be the Melvins. They sighned with Atlantic (definitly not a small label) and have you ever heard of them? Maybee? They have definitly become more accesable to people and probably more popular but they still play little bars. They don't do arena tours. Tickets are super easy to get. And most of all they havn't changed, they will still hang out after a performance with some fans and just talk to them. I don't thik sighning with a label like Geffen will really make the Misfits that much more popular. > As one of the few (maybe the only) lawyers on this list, I wanted to > correct a slight mistake by Bobby in the last Bible. Taping a live show is > illegal. He is right that no copyright attaches to the live performance > until it is recorded. But don't forget that all the songs being played are > protected by copyright. The bootleg recording infringes the SONG copyrights > each and every time it is copied. Also, simultaneous recording by someone > authorized to do it secures a copyright on the recording. So if the band is > taping their own show while you are also, you are infringing the SONG > copyrights and the RECORDING copyrights. Are you completely sure about this. I know you're a lawyer and all but there this entire page somewhere in the Yahoo search engine dedicated to making bootlegs and how to go about doing them. Basically, a lot of bands just don't care if you tape them live. As lang as the venue doesn't care than the band could care less. I think you can find this by going to http://www.yahoo.com and then going to the music section. I think there is actually a bootleg link there and then you have to take another link to get to this page. It details what you have to do to get permission from a band and venue to tape a show. It's not as hard as you think. ------------------------------ From: ROBBMIC@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:06:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #234 I still don't think anything compares to the 18 minutes of fury documented on the"Walk among us" session! The production and the performances. Although "Children in heat" and "teens from mars" sessions are are hard to resist! ------------------------------ From: Stewart Muir Gallacher <9243471g@student.gla.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:48:35 +0000 Subject: TRADERS Hi, I am looking for live/demo recordings of The Doors and Black Sabbath (preferably direct from bootleg CDs). I have a lot of Misfits/Samhain/Danzig stuff to offer for trade, so if you are interested please contact me. I have a list on the Misfits page at http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/collect/stewart.col I am after high quality audios (or commercially unavailable videos of the Doors). So check it out, and if you are interested please get in touch at 9243471g@student.gla.ac.uk I am also after ANY Samhain bootleg LPs and ANY photos of The Misfits (w/ Glenn), Samhain, and Danzig. Thanks, -stewart gallacher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:49:02 -0700 From: Pat Colaiacovo Subject: SAMHAIN. MISSING LYRICS Steel". I got them all on the homepage and I think they're all fukin sick! Love it! Anyways, can anyone help me out on what the missing lyrics are? So far, all that is there is: car crash pressing of two lips, hard steel and an accidental death, one action does you up, kiss of steel. press your face to the metal crash, feel your nose and your cheek bones crack what action does you up kiss of steel. we're having a love affair with a chevy in midair kiss of steel ?????????????????????????????? kiss of steel. (chorus) let the mouth taste the silver spread let it ride and the rubber screech one shot will do them up kiss of steel Anyone know what it is? If not, I hope whoever wrote the lyrics there could fix it. I'm probably missing out on some more crazy lines! Greg. ------------------------------ From: THX 1138 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:22:26 +0000 Subject: Live Misfits! (Covers at least...) Hey, hey, fiends... Bruce Lee's back in the house... I've changed my name, but my game's the same, to let people in on a little known secret... the soon-to-be-world famous Ninjas (of Evansville, IN). If you were here at all last year, you've surely heard me go on about E'ville's campiest little Misfits cover band turned punk rock gods, the Ninjas... well, as you also know, the Ninjas broke up last Christmas, but they went into the studio and made a tape before the very end... if anyone is interested in hearing these boys, they are very much influenced by the 'Fits and the live side of the tape even has three Misfits covers (wow, THREE!!). For three bucks, the price of a tape and postage, you get the Ninjas' "Live 11/4/95" album and the "Legacy of Frugality" studio sessions, both on one tape! I'll even throw in some of the stuff from the bands that these boys came from (P.M.P., Carl International II, The MoFS, Man Mustard, and the Fred Sanford Experience) at the end of the tapes... something different on each one (no two will be the same!) I'm just doing this for my jollies, I'm not trying to scam anyone, I just want people to hear these boys... much like the Misfits, they weren't hailed in their own time, but now that they don't exist, they're gaining a fringe following... get in on the ground floor! Send cash or check made out to: Mark Nance, 5645 Harmony Woods Ln., Evansville, IN 47720. The preceding offer made available by Who Shot Ralph? Records. THX --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Do you think we're robot clean, Does this face look almost mean, It's time to be an android, not a man." The Misfits, "We Are 138" "How many rude-boys does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Four... one to drop it, and three to 'Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up!'" You've been contacted by THX 1138 (mnance@marsh.vinu.edu), be afraid. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:05:24 -0400 Subject: Danzig signing, etc. Someone mentioned last issue that they were suprised to see Glenn signing Misfits records. Well, he does sign them and he signs them happily. When I caught him at the San Diego Comic-Con, he signed a bunch of my Misfits records, even ones I'd had signed already by Jerry & Doyle. He said the only thing he wouldn't sign were bootlegs. This says to me that he isn't embarassed of his work with the Misftis and is proud of it but would rather keep the past the past and work on the now and the future. Someone else mentioned how the Misfits will "sell out" and become "mainstream" if they sign with Geffen, citing of all groups Marilyn Manson as an example of a band who has done so. Well, I don't know what you call "mainstream" but a band putting out an album with songs such as "Everlasting Cocksucker" and "Rock 'n' Roll Nigger" is not a band I would classify as mainstream. Perhaps it's because they've sold lots of records within the last year and have gotten airplay. The same has been said of other groups such as Danzig & White Zombie who became very popular outside of their core fans and sold records and gotten major airplay. Yes, it does such when people start going to the shows just for one hit song and don't care about anything else but these groups reaching a bigger audience gives them more power to do more of what they want to do. But I don't think the Misftis are a band that CAN really go mainstream. Unless they start to do goofy-jokey Halloween songs like "Monster Mash", I don't see the possibility of that happening. And for their having to do videos, there's only one way you can do a Misfits video, and that's with a sci-fi/horror theme to it and that's what the Msifits are about anyway so I don't see the possibility of videos as a bad thing. Who knows? Just give it time and see what comes of it ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:10:13 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Back to normal... Well hello Fiends... First off where is Rick McClinton, you need to send me your address if you want your flyers. I hope everyone liked the songs. And as usual keep your eyes open for the next activity, cause i have one for October you will never forget. I am so happy to see the Bible with real Misfits, Danzig and other info that has to do with the main reason we are here. Plus i feel say to post without getting my head ripped off. Obviously i'm not the only one, welcome back EVB, nice post by the way. Do you know what Japanese comics Glenn will be using in that book you were talking about? I remember reading he was going to put out a comic series of Vampire Hunter D. That would be the ultimate of comic books. If any of you fiends out there have no idea what the hell i'm talking about, you can rent the movie from Blockbuster video, Vampire Hunter D is the name. Its the best of all the 1980's japanese animation. Oh Mark, didn't you know that Jerry and Doyle had bought Elvis' body ( which happend to be frozen, you know he didn't die of a drug overdose but fell into one of those big freezers when reaching for that last frozen pizza, way way in the back. Its a secret that 7-11 kept for years. Jerry found out when he went to buy some bottled water and saw Elvis through the glass.) with the money that was owed to Bobby,they are defrosting him now so that he's thawed out for for the Halloween show. Bobby maybe that means that you really own Elvis since the money was real yours!!! You can get him to tour with the Undead. Did anyone notice this, either Wes went nuts and had a normal post in the second part of Mondays Bible or someone is impersonating him. Or do we have 2 Wes' and i have never noticed this? well till next time if i don't loose my mind here. Later to all the fiendies!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:40:12 -0500 From: American Nightmare Subject: new danzig site? does anyone know of a new danzig homepage i couldn't find it but i didn't try to hard either-Bill ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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I'm not sure how it happened, but it had something to do with my mail file being written over. If you've still got it, please send it again. Anyway, I just received word that the October 4th show at the Birch Hill Night club has been postponed until November 2nd. mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 03:58:24 -0400 From: "Dorin M. Petre" Subject: WRSE WRSE is pretty cool, Zork. at least it was when I liked Death Metal (eek, embarrassing part of my life;)) I used to listen to Paul Ode every Friday. Remember NICK? sorry everyone for posting so much... except for those thinking "geffen...sellouts...MTV...MINE MINE MINE!!!" Right on Uncle Kirt! >Nick Chicken, either change your name or get out of here you sack o' >shit. I don't appreciate you, your family, or even your race. Fuck >you. I hope you weren't offended by this, Nick. Wes is a big dork and he's never said anything serious. he cracks me up everytime. how 'bout a 'best of Wes' issue where all of his wacky stuff is reposted? > I just want to say that if the Misfits sign with GEFFEN it will >suck. I can just see myself turning on MTV one day and seeing one of >those vee jays or whatever they are called saying, "That was Green Day >with Brain Stew,coming up next we're going to have some videos from >Oasis,The Cranberries,Mariah Carey and a new one from those spooky >guys,The Misfits!!!!But first heres one from Bone Thugs and Harmony." > GET THE POINT? shut up I say that they (misfits) sign to Geffen. It's like Kirt says; they gotta make a living. I also say "EF YOU" to you so-called "real fans"(Voodoo Child). They aren't making music for you. Nobody starts a band thinking, "hey! let's start a band and make a bunch of dumb punks happy while we sit penniless picking our butts!!" AI AI AI AI AI!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReg"wes is a big jerky dork"Petre *** Talk to me over the 'Net! *** Iphone address: Dorin@pub1.ipn.vocaltec.com ------------------------------ From: Ken D Ward Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 04:17:34 EDT Short post: Since I lost my InterNet site, there is no longer any information about how to get onto my BBS to play The Legend of the Chrimson Ghost. So, if you are interseted in calling to play the only on-line game involving The Misfits that I have ever heard of, please send me e-mail and I will reply as soon as possible, to let you know how to get on to play my wonderful software. Anok! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- allmurderallgutsallfun@juno.com personal e-mail misfits_punk_planet_bbs@juno.com BBS e-mail (501) 772-1832 Misfit's Punk Planet BBS ------------------------------ Subject: From: Ken D Ward Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 04:17:34 EDT Well, due to my utter lack of money, I lost my InterNet account, so the fiend formerly known as misfit@slinknet.com is back minus the Web Site with the trendy Misfits artwork and shameless stealing of their aura for his own BBS's self-gain. But, anyway, while at the police station yesterday (yep, some bitch stole my checkbook and wrote a few hundred dollars worth of checks, so I had to file a forgery complaint) I noticed on the TV they were talking about the movie "Mars Attack". No mention of The 'Fits. Are they still involved in this? I'm sure this has been talked about recently, but I missed the last two Bibles. Also, what's with the Fiend Club? Is it some kind of a joke now? The only thing I have received since May was a single e-mail with my quoted membership form and the single word..."Thanks." Everyone else gets cool postcards and I just get ignored! : ( And I've been a fiend for TEN YEARS!!! I want a postcard! Okay, I'm over it. OK, OK. No one wants my opinion on this...but here goes anyway. Signing with Geffen in theory sucks. (I hate David Geffen, he's very pro-censorship, contrary to his public Image) However, "Walk Among Us" was distributed by Warner Brothers for years! And we never saw "Braineaters" on eMpTy V, did we? Hell, Black Flag's "TV Party" was on there and I wouldn't dare call Black Flag sellouts. (They were on SST, far from starving now, but certainly never a major label) I don't want flames for this, but The Misfits ARE about money. If they weren't why is it not called Kryst the Conquerer? I still like the band, and I do look forward to seeing them if they play Dallas again without me finding out a week AFTER the show, but still the point remains, if it was purely for fun, they would be Kryst and doing covers instead of needing the name "The Misfits". If they would just be honest about it, it would make me feel better about the band, but that will never happen so I'll live with it. Anyway, my point is that it's really not "selling out" to sign with a label if you want money anyway. If RCA WOULD have given the Dead Kennedys artistic freedom, would that have made them "sell-outs"? (They said no, so Jello dumped an ashtray over the exec's head). I HIGHLY doubt it. With White Zombie mixing Ministry with The Misfits, they became a very popular band, and the entire "Horror" genre is "in" right now, look at Marilyn Manson for instance, signing to Geffen would be a good move financially. If they do sign, I won't stop listening to the band, or make Greenfits or Misspring jokes. It'll make sure that the Caifia's are well taken care of, though, and do any of us REALLY want them to starve and play the 9:30 Club forever? Wouldn't it just be the biggest kick in Glenn's ass to show him that The Misfits WERE a *BAND* and not just Glenn Danzig and his devilock-endowed members? Just wait till "Return of the Fly" becomes a #1 hit! =) Sorry I made it so long, I can't get things said in sentences this early in the day (I wake up around midnight). Remember to send ALL hate mail and "You're an asshole, Glenn Danzig has talent." comments to: allmurderallgutsallfun@juno.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ G***n D****g's an asshole fucking cunt...and ****** suck!...Bobby Steele is a heterosexual. allmurderallgutsallfun@juno.com personal e-mail misfits_punk_planet_bbs@juno.com BBS e-mail (501) 772-1832 Misfit's Punk Planet BBS [RIP http://www.slinknet.com/~misfit] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 05:31:58 -0400 From: EVB Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #235 Thanks to everybody for the welcome back (I was never really gone but just lurking in the shadows) - I'm glad to see the start of a "kindler, gentler" bible so to speak and look forward to many flame free issues. If anybody is in northern NJ on Friday you should definitely check out "BIGHOUSE", Eerie Von's band. They'll be played at Connections on Van Houghten Avenue in Clifton, NJ. I'll be driving up for the show with some friends and meeting up woth more Bible members there so hope to meet some more of you there! in the last issue Warhgammer asked: >Also is it definate that Blackacidevil is comin out the tuesday >before Halloween? Also how is it supposed to be pronounced (acid >devil or d-evil) Glenn pronounced it with a "devil" Craig Wieczorkiewicz mentioned: > The radio station where I work got the same promo for the new Danzig >album that Mark Allen Blackman wrote about in the last bible... If ANYBODY out there gets hold of one of these that they'd consider selling PLEASE contact me ASAP & I'll make you a good offer on it. I'm desperate to have one for my collection! (I'm also looking for the "It's Coming Down" promo CD and am willing to make a good offer on one as it's the only other Danzig promo item I need) Tammy S aked: > Do you know what Japanese comics Glenn will be using in that book you were >talking about? "Verotika East" will be new stories by various Japanese doujinshi artists. ("doujinshi" are fanzines, requently of an explicit nature popular among Japanese manga fans) He hasn't mentioned anything more about "D". American Nightmare asked: >does anyone know of a new danzig homepage i couldn't find it but i >didn't try to hard either-Bill Here's a great one by a friend of mine: http://www.earthlink.net/~devilman138 There's a wonderful collection of Danzig, Misfits and Samhain pix there plus up to date tour dates & links to other related pages. So far there is no mention of Danzig at the Hollywood Records pages (and the page at American hasn't been changed in eons) Speaking of pages, I'm actually working on my own web page (courtesy of the free ones at Geocities!) I'm having fun designing it & still working on what to put up there. Any input would be appreciated! Feel free to check it out at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/4543 - ciao! - EVB sistinas@planetcom.com ================================================================ "prick your finger it is done the moon has now eclipsed the sun the angel has spread his wings the time has come for bitter things" Marilyn Manson ================================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:11:39 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: I know, I know OK, so this is totally un-Misfits related. (sorry Mark) But the last time I posted this a few people were interested. Fugazi is playing another FREE show here in DC on Sunday 9/29. The show is at Malcolm X park, 16th & Florida. The CityPaper says the show starts at 2:00, but I doubt that. The # for more info is (703) 276-9768. OK, sorta Misfits related. The CityPaper still has not reported an 11/1 Misfits show at the 9:30. Is there a possibility that they will go on right after midnite, after Type O? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:49:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: Rodimus Rules hello to all, First off I want to say that I am very pleased to see that Adam West may play with the fits on Nov 1st in DC. That should be a great show and all of you fiends need to get there early enough to catch this band as they are very good. from last issue: To Opus: (as to the fits and geffen and them being independant) Opus remember the fits were not completely independant. Remeber they did WAU on Slash Reprise records. Also they would have signed back in the days also if they had a chance and like now they wouldnt have sold out back then either. By Jerry and Glenns own admission they tried to get signed even when they had SA going. BUt like they say I guese people were just scared of them. Glenn is on a big lable and he has not sold out he has done things exactly how he has wanted to and the misfits will be able to do that as well. Geffen has to know that if they changed this band they would destroy them. The only thing geffen will do to this band is all good like mass distribution, promotion, and finance. To Voodoo Child: ( as to the mtv sellout misfits video) i am sure if they do a video it will be nuthin but awesome. I dont know about the rest of you but I loved the video clip they did for the tour wityh all the old B-movies. I imagine if they did a video it would be like an ed wood movie or like one of those old B-movie videos, or just a wild show. That would be very cool and I am sure about everyone here has already paid about tweny bux for the creepy comp, and were you dissapointed. What if they went the way Glenn did and just made videos on their own terms and released a special video? To Bobby: You are right cuz it doesnt matter if the fits do a video or or get signed cuz the most important thing is if they dont comprimise their music. And I say as long the music is good it is all good. To all worried about Glenn: (as to industrial thing) I dont care if glenn goes industrial cuz if he does it will be for only one album. All the Danzig albums all sound different IMO. He is just doing sumthin new, I mean he isnt playing with AC/DC as his back up band. thats all for now, D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:02:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Last Bastard of Rock Hey I didn't know cover bands got signed, especially the cover band the Misfits. I don't know about you all but I can't imagine an overproduced Misfits album! J.-Last Bastard of Rock ------------------------------ Date: 26 SEP 96 12:34:17 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Now that Tommy Victor from Prong is in Danzig, I'm sure all you guys want to buy their albums. I got their first two, Beg To Differ and Prove You Wrong on CD, $5 ea plus postage to who ever wants them, they are in great condition, virtually unplayed. email me at AZAWODNY@MOBILE.BAM.COM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:44:38 -0500 (EST) From: 02tjthompson@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Undead...first impressions... Well....I've finally gone and done it. I ordered "Dawn of the Undead" from Bobby and Post Mortem Records (BTW Bobby...thanks for the CD...even though I ordered a cassette!). I've been a bible member for several years now...quietly lurking...reading...absorbing as much info as I could. I'd heard many times Mark commenting about the Undead...but I was skeptical. I'm not the typical "punk fan"...and only recently started listening to punk. I got into the Misfits by hearing Danzig first (not something that many liked in the earlier days of the bible). So after a couple of years, I finally ordered myself some Undead. I must say...I'm impressed. There's some damn good stuff on this CD... So...thanks to Mark for consistently mentioning the Undead over the past couple of years, and of course, thanks to Bobby for making the music and sending me this CD. If only I'd listened earlier.... Tim "Evil is as Evil Does..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 00:35:01 +0000 From: Andrew Share Subject: major labels Someone wrote last issue: >> I just want to say that if the Misfits sign with GEFFEN it will really >>suck. I can just see myself turning on MTV one day and seeing one of those >>vee jays or whatever they are called saying, "That was Green Day with Brain >>Stew,coming up next we're going to have some videos from Oasis,The >>Cranberries,Mariah Carey and a new one from those spooky guys,The >>Misfits!!!!But first heres one from Bone Thugs and Harmony." GET THE POINT? Just becasue a band goes to a mojor, it does not mean that they instantly become popular with the mall rats. Also, look at how many videos from indie labels that MTV shows. If the Misfits wanted to be allover MTV they could be, with or without a major's support. Their are so many reasons behind signing to a major tha no one ever seems to think about. If a band isgoing to exist, why not get someone else to pay for the recording and tour support. DIY is a great thing for a small time band, things change and resons exist on why bands sign to major's. If you really liked reading this mail-list and someone came by and said that they would pay you to read the list you would do it. It is the same concept. If you don't like the fact that bands sign ot majors then turn your back on them. Be one of those stuck up assholes who talk about the old days when the band was so poor they had to sleep in the entry way to a house in a town that they just played. Major labesl to not rape thier artists like they used to, Things have chnaged believe it or not. Grow up or give up! ############################################################################ # # # Andrew Share # 617 # # As Goes New Hampshire, # St930419@pip.cc.brandeis.edu # 736-7295 # # #################################################### # So goes the nation # SUPPORT SUPPORT SUPPORT SUPPORT SUPPORT SUPPORT # # # LOCAL LOCAL LOCAL LOCAL LOCAL LOCAL # # # MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC # ############################################################################ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:43:41 -0700 From: David Attanasio Subject: a few questions First off, does anyone know when tickets go on sale for the Oct. 31st show at the Troc in Philly (and how much)? Also, I was curious as to if the Misfits now have to pay Glenn Danzig royalties every time they perform the songs?(My understanding is that Glenn owns all of the rights to the Misfits songs). If not wouldn't Glenn have had to give them his legal blessing before they got back together and started performing again. It would seem that if neither had happened, Glenn should be suing their asses off right about now. (Not that I'm saying he should). Thanx. ------------------------------ From: WarPigz@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:27:13 -0400 Subject: Cliff Burton Cliff Burton, Metallica's much adored bassist, died September 26th, 1986. This occured exactly 10 years before I wrote this. Please remember his soul in your memories and actions through the day if you will. He died hours after a show at Stockholm, Sweden. It was September 27th, 1986 Sweden time, September 26th EST. When I listen to that show, I think it's such a waste of talent. Naturally, this is The Misfits mailing list, but remember, you can count him among the fans, as yourselves. He was one of the greats. Sincerely, Tom AKA: War Pigz@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:32:51 PST Subject: TIME TAKES A CIGARETTE From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) This is for any New York City FIENDS: I'll be on cable Channel 17 on Saturday night at 1:30am. I've broken out some never before seen live videos of both THE UNDEAD and TIMES SQUARE for this show. This is the first time I've been on cable since 1982 and willl be the first in a series of interviews for this show. And don't forget SUNDAY night 11:00 at the CONTINENTAL 25 THIRD Ave. This is a FREE SHOW. For Canadian FIENDS; TIMES SQUARE will be at JAILHOUSE ROCK, 30 MONT ROYAL, Montreal on Saturday Oct 5 at 9PM. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:44:04 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: blackacidevil punkin mentioned that the title may be related to drugs. the new album features Sab's "hand of doom", a song about heroin. hmmmmm... concept album? :) but new lyrics? blah... we'll find out how they are. "vietnam, napalm..." ryq ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:31:09 -0700 From: R Hinojos Subject: guitar fiends time for another rant: anyone, ANYONE, who plays guitar/bass/keyboard/whatever, please take a look at Marko's extensive Glennzig, et. al, TAB section. if you see any empty/incorrect entries, please feel free to contribute. those of you who are thinking about learning how to play, it's a great starting point. send contributions to that mark guy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu if he can't answer it, he'll forward guitar TAB questions to me at: hinojos@bluenote.aero.org rock out!! ryq ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 22:58:08 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Make up your minds... Hello fiends... First for today, Congrats should go out to Jake Starr and his band Adam West. Lucky ducky is opening for the Misfits on All Saints Day(November 1) I hope you video tape this Jake. I think we need so help here, its as if everyone is having a change of heart now. During Spring and Summer everyone spent their time ripping on poor Glenn, and just couldn't get enough of the Misfits, and now how dare the Misfits sign on Geffen and Glenn is on tour and Danzig is great. Boy some people change their tune real quick. Maybe this is a novel concept, but how about liking Danzig and being happy for the Misfits that someone was interested in them beyond Caroline records. But i guess its not a cool punk thing if they are not on their own label. I must be nuts, i would be happy just to get a record from either band at this point and i don't give a shit what label its on. Oh, and G-d forbid that the Misfits made a video that happened to air on MTV. Like Glenn ever made shit for MTV who always screwed him over and cut up their videos. Though no one thought that the Misfits could do video tapes like Danzig does to avoid the MTV kiddie scissors. So in whole let's get back to being happy with both bands and getting to hear the great reviews everyone is coming back with from the Danzig shows. Cause i think this is so childish to play the "i don't like a band that is on a major label, cause it's not punk ass cool." On too, well i hope everyone is still sending in their orders to Dave Naked for the t-shirt. that is going to be one cool ass shirt i have to say. That's it for now, everyone have a great weekend. Oh and watch out come October cause i have some cool stuff to share. Later to all the fiendies!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 237 Monday, September 30th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 ADAM WEST eyes no longer see Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Phoenix Fiends Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Re: Geffen, sound-alike bands, and other farces blah... well that's just great! Re: Misfits Bible, #236 bible 235 blah cantspeak/earth a.d./sacrifice Re: Misfits Bible, #236 SKIP IF THE COPYRIGHT STUFF BORES YOU misfits @ the troc, chiller theatre Re:Geffen 138 Minor sighting Re: Last ish Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Bass/Wes sucks misfits @ birchhill anotherlongpostaboutheNewFitssigningtoGeffen...READTHISPUNKER!!! MISFITS ZINE!!!! Ride, Johnny Ride Misfits Slideshow! Re: #232 bassline October stuff... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: x-ray Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 Okay, I finally got some clarifaction on the Halloween shows: (Sardonica and Blank 77 opening) 10/29/96 Penn State PA 10/30/96 York, PA 10/31/96 Trocadero Philadelphia, PA 11/01/96 The Chance Poughkeepsie, NY 11/02/96 Birch Hill Night Club Old Bridge, NJ Also, for those of you who have heard the rumors, Earth AD will be released on CD again on October 29th. This will be a regular silver CD version without the Plan 9 logo or any references to the Plan 9 record label which no longer exists. Once again, if any of you have reviews of recent Misfits shows, PLEASE contact me. They are needed for the Misfits presskit that Rocky Caiafa is working on. By the way everybody, Wes Thomas unsubscribed a few issues ago. > From: David Attanasio > Subject: a few questions > > the Misfits now have to pay Glenn Danzig royalties every time they > perform the songs?(My understanding is that Glenn owns all of the rights > to the Misfits songs). If not wouldn't Glenn have had to give them his > legal blessing before they got back together and started performing > again. It would seem that if neither had happened, Glenn should be > suing their asses off right about now. (Not that I'm saying he should). Of course he would. That's why The Misfits were battling him legally for about 7- 8 years. All of you who think the Misfits jumped on some reunion bandwagon are way off. It took Jerry, Doyle and some of the other former members almost 10 years to finally meet up with Glenn and settle an out of court settlement that allows them to be The Misfits. They have rights to the old songs on the performing level and Glenn owns the songs as far as publishing goes. The Resurrection '96 tour should have been the Resurrection '87 tour if all had gone right. But Glenn doesn't give up his $$ easily. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:50:22 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST tes777 wrote: "First for today, Congrats should go out to Jake Starr and his band Adam West. Lucky ducky is opening for the Misfits on All Saints Day(November 1) I hope you video tape this Jake." thanks for the congrats! the 9:30 club still says the nov. 1 show is unconfirmed, so i don't know what to think. i'm basically sitting on pins & needles and have been for a week now! thanks also to d-rod for his plug! we should have records and t-shirts for sale at the show, so stock up as our stuff is painfully limited. later! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net:80/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:34:38 -0400 Subject: eyes no longer see Last issue Tess777 wrote: << Cause i think this is so childish to play the "i don't like a band that is on a major label, cause it's not punk ass cool." >> right on! i couldn't have said it better. it's also nice to see evb back from where ever it is that the lurkers lurk. that's just my 2 cents! D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:16:28 -0700 (MST) From: John B Perrin Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 hello misfit fans, i saw the misfits in tucson with anthrax and someone else, i dont remember. ------------------------------ From: "Warhammer" Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:44:34 +1100 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Well Just Me again wanting to agree with tammy's little comment I do remember a lot of Glenn bashing that went on in the summer and I made many comments in defense of Glenn cause he is the reason I am here in the first place I would never had heard of The Misfits if it wasn't for my great dedication to Danzig's Music had Glenn not done Danzig The only misfits songs I would know would be Last Carress, Green hell, and London dungeon as these are the covers that Metallica has done of Misfits. Also Whats the gripe about Misfits signing with Geffen is this not what we all wanted, the Misfits to make a successful comeback. It does not get more successful then getting signed to a label to record a new album and please it is the Misfits do you actually think that they would compromise the music we all love, that has kept all of us fans loyal throughout the years, I agree with Tammy I am happy for either Misfits or Danzig giving us something new Hell The Danzig that comes out next month wiil keep me happy untill the new fits album comes, Well that is all Stay Hungry Fiendishly Yours The Warhammer "I am misery" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:07:21 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Yuhnke Subject: Phoenix Fiends Lesse, I've been reading the bible for a few months now... this is my first post... don't have much to say... there's enough posts that share my opinion so that most of what I'd say would be redundant... so I'll make it brief: don't have a problem with people dubbing albums... how many of us pay for the software we're using? however they have the box set for 54 bux at Best Buy here and I consider it 54 bux well spent... Misfits on Geffen? Fucking good for them... they deserve it... just as long as they still play small venues I really don't give a fuck... ATTENTION FIENDS IN PHOENIX: looking for a bass player (must have own equipment suitable for shows) to play in a dark punk/industrial/gothic band... (if I have it my way it'll be more punk than that industrial/goth bullshit but anyways) email me if you're interested.... may also be looking for a second guitar player... (again must have own equip) l8r- JJJJJJ A SSSS YY YY NNN NN JJ A A SSS S YYYY NN N NN J JJ AAAAA S SSS YY NN N NN JJJJ AA AA SSSS YY NN NNN @Primenet.com "Hold on, I think I have to puke There's a spot in the corner where I always go I like to feed the flies that I know" -The Misfits ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:12:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel J. Jakel" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 This is about Ken D WaRD'S questions about Mars Attacks! the movie. I have no idea that the Misfits were ever involved directly with the movie. I know that Mars Attacks! is the title of their upcoming album, I dunno if there's gonna be a soundtrack or whatever. If so then the Misfits should be on it, but I don't know. I'm sure some other poeple on here know more than me. The movie, I'd like to mention, looks like its gonna kick some serious ass. It has to be the largest cast of serious stars assembled at least since JFK. I wish it would come out on the all popular Halloween, but we can't have everything. I read in a mag that they were struggling to keep the movie on schedule with all the special effects editing now that the acting stuff was all done. It looks damn cool, previews should start any week for it now. Also about Geffen, I don't think its a very big deal either way. If i had my choice I'd rather them not sign. Simply because the Misfits are quite different than all the stuff out there today, they may be deemed as "new wave of alternative" by ShiTV or something stupid like that. Look at Marliyn Manson, Korn and White Zombie. They weren't on MTV except for the late Headbanger's Ball at all, until the two B words showcased them, then all the morons saw them and called up MTV requesting them to play the video during normal hours. I loved those three bands before they became huge via MTV, now its just a shame that everyone else likes them. Call it selfish, but its how I am. I mean, I'll tell my friends to buy CD's of bands nobody's heard of, but then when idiots get ahold of the stuff and act like they're just the coolest it ticks me off. Plus after those bands got success, they made shitty music. Astrocreep isn't nearly as good as La Sexorcisto, Smells Like Children is pretty cruddy compared to Portrait of American Family, even though its just an EP. It's happened through history, and it will happen to the Misfits if they garner success like those 3 bands. I want them to stay off the airwaves so they will stay around and keep being as amazing as they always have been. ------------------------------ From: "JOSEPH THEUERKAUF" Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:14:58 -400 Subject: Re: Geffen, sound-alike bands, and other farces hey fux! this is my first send to the MB, so take it easy on me. i've got only two things to say: misfits are not about making money; at least that was my understanding. they were/are about fucking shit up and making it fun to do so. DIY is the best way to go. yeah, you can't really go publicize and run all the media hype that a label contract would let you do, but think of it this way: i only know what the box bio tells me about them, and i got the impression that they were always pretty self-motivated. by signing to Geffen, they give all that up to let some "satin baseball jacket CEO" (to quote Biafra) choose what they should look like to us. thumbs down. next, i have an offer for all you diehards (and any other takers): i own demo tapes of a band from my hometown of Portland, MI and they sound just like the 'fits. even the vocals are close. they're called the Smiling Villains, and even though they sound different these days (the tape is four years old), they still play a lot of their old stuff. anyway, if ya want a copy, let me know your address n' other necessary info and i'll send it to you for FREE. i'll even pay postage. good quality and good music (there are two other bands on the tape as well. and it's FREE. c'mon, try it. theuejos@aquinas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:27:09 -0400 From: Chris White Subject: blah... what is everyone's problem with the Misfit's signing to a big record company. As long as they don't change their shit much all the better, just easier to hear them and get stuff. You act like it is a bad thing to watch MTV and see a good band, you know they need at least one. As for bashing Glenn, just don't start to hate the old Danzig stuff just cause the new stuff is different(whether it sucks or not, not really sure now). When I first heard some of the new stuff live on his tour with ozzy, I was surprised to find that this was stuff by Danzig, and was disappointed with his performance compared to the last one I saw(of course that was at a club as opposed to an arena type thing). Still his old stuff still rocks(especially the Misfits stuff). Ummm... did someone say the misfits were playing the 9:30 on Nov.1? May have to go. By the way, does anyone have any sort of concert schedule for the Misfit's? If so e-mail it to me or something. hope this makes it through, by the way, who here is planning on going to the Nov.1 show anyway? I hope to, any hopes of getting backstage? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:49:53 CDT From: "Mikkelson, Laura Kathleen" Subject: well that's just great! Thanks a lot everybody! You guys made Wes leave! Way to go! -Laura M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:15:15 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) > >Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:44:38 -0500 (EST) >From: 02tjthompson@bsuvc.bsu.edu >Subject: Undead...first impressions... > >Well....I've finally gone and done it. I ordered "Dawn of the Undead" >Bobby and Post Mortem Records (BTW Bobby...thanks for the CD...even >though I ordered a cassette!). SORRY. I don't usually make that kinda mistake. >I must say...I'm impressed. There's some damn good stuff on this >CD... THANKS. Even though I consider THE UNDEAD a "punk" band, you can see that we really crossover to a lot of influences. We were the first punk band to have a primarily heavy metal following as far back as '83, and we've always gotten more support from the metal scene. BUT WE'RE FUCKIN' PUNK! >If only I'd listened earlier.... Okay fiends. Don't you make this same tragic mistake. You can still order copies from me. >From: WarPigz@aol.com >Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:27:13 -0400 >Subject: Cliff Burton > >Cliff Burton, Metallica's much adored bassist, died September 26th, 86. >Naturally, this is The Misfits mailing list, but remember, you can >count him among the fans, as yourselves. He was one of the greats. Not to mention; Who would even know who the fuck THE MISFITS were if it weren't for CLIFF. He was the one who turned METALLICA . . . and then the world on to THE MISFITS. ------------------------------ Date: 27 SEP 96 16:29:13 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: bible 235 Opus said -> >It is just that in the old days, they stayed independent for a reason. They released WAU through Ruby records/Slash. I dont think a major would know what to do with them then. Not when Journey was selling millions of albums >They always played smaller venues for a reason. The reason was because they were a cult band with a cult following like most punk bands back in the day, who were lucky to get a couple hundred people at a show. > I always thought that the Misfits did these things to stay away from the >mainstream. I doubt it was intentional. It was just their style. I dont think they did their thing to be "differnet". They did what they liked. >What will happen to that Misfits aura if they go big? Nothing. They are still a cult band with a cult following and will always be such cause they scare the shit out of your average record buyer. The only people who might now be exposed to them that missed the original Metallica/Danzig connection would be Metalheads (and I use that term loosely). ADAM #15 said -> This is to all of those people out there who think that >having trendy punk posers at misfits concerts. I think it is the greatest >thing because you have an excuse to kick some ass. These posers usually >stand around the pit, just watching, too scared to go in. You can go by >and give them a good ol' Gordie Howe elbow to the skull. They are usually >too scared to do anything. My brother loves to just destroy these >pansies. What the fuck??? What is a "trendy punk poser"? Would you know one if you saw one? Fuck, half the people in the audience who look like schlubs, dressed in normal clothes and what not are probably more into the band than the kids who get that special devilock haircut for the show and brag to their friends about kicking someones ass. I stay out of the pit cause I'm there to watch the band kick ass, and not get all hot and sweatly rubbing up against other guys. And at 6' 3" and 275, I want to see your bro try to destroy me, cause hes gonna be eating and shitting through a fucking tube the rest of his life. Just what the shows need, more fucking violence .... I dont want to start a flame war, but this guy is ignorant. Jamie -> "Does anyone know what kind of guitar cabs doyle use's??? >Are they 4x12's or 8x10's or what???? >also does anyone know what kind of heads he uses?? I think their ampeg >V4's but i am not sure. Doyle told me he uses ampeg heads and 4x12 cabs at the NYC show It sucks that the 10/4 show was in NJ was cancelled but I'll be at the Troc on Halloween! AZ ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: blah Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:33:39 -0400 (EDT) well i don't know howtrue this is, liz you may have an assignment, but when prong was finishing up their tour friends bands opened for them in both motown and cleveland. what i heard from the guys i know was that prong had been dropped by their label. this may fit in nicely with the fact that tommy victor is now the geetar player for glennzig, also it seems a little too convienient that prong started going for a more industrial sound, and then tommy victor now is in an industrilized, from what i've read, danzig. anyways i'm sure liz'll find out. also if the fits sign to geffen, i've got mixed feelings about it. i think it'd be nice for them to finally get some recognition, i think they deserve it. but on the other hand, i think that if jerry really was sincere about "doing this only for the fans" then the fans will be hurt. if they make itbig, then there's no way they can still play smaller venues, they'd be too many fans fighting for too few tickets. even the last tour it was obvious that the venues were too small. i know that i personally can't afford much more then the $15 that last tour was, and the bigger the venue the higher the ticket price. i also said this before that i think personally that the misfits were a band which was basically the braichild of glenn&jerry. the latest tour was great, but just not the misfits. i think jerry should make the distinction that the new band is "the misfits", and the older stuff was simply the "misfits". who knows. i also think that our friend bobby should give jerry some ab-roller lessons, his paunch is, well, round. later -- Paul Hahn Cause it's not only what we do, hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu it's what we do well. Check the speedball page @ http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul/speedball ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:15:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Last Bastard of Rock To the guy in Adam West; Did you know that there is a Canadian Band called Adam West, and they've been around for at least 7 years as far as I know, you ripped em' off man. (just kidding) American/Canadian copyright laws suck, for example 102.1 the edge in Toronto and the American fucks 103.3 EDGE in Buffalo, what cock suckers! Does anyone have any cool screen savers? If you do mail me! Anyone in the Guelph area, mail me too. What are the new tour dates for the Misfits (the cover band)? Don't get me wrong they put on the best show, but they are playing someone else's songs, ergo, they are a cover band. Any other complaints propaganda, or comments on the bible, send it to me! J. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:06:10 -0700 From: adam bodnar Subject: cantspeak/earth a.d./sacrifice Somebody help me out!! I have been looking everywhere for the Danzig - Cantspeak cd single/EP (eg. cantspeak plus bonus tracks, usually live), but I can't find it anywhere. If there is someone out there who has one and wants to sell it, email me at pina@robson.jumppoint.com, or if someone can pick one up for me I will cover the cost, the shipping and handling, and a little extra for taking up your time. On another note, it appears that the Earth AD/Die Die My Darling CD is being re-issued and is going to be released on October 29, 1996 for about $12.00 retail price. Quite a coincidental date, considering Danzig's BlackAciDevil is slated for the same release date. As well, heard on the radio last night that the first music video being produced for the new album will be the single SACRIFICE. Danzig and crew will be filming this half way through their touring schedule. Band members mentioned were Glenn Danzig, Tommy Victor, Joey Castillo, and John Laze (yes, Lazie)!! ------------------------------ From: Scurril0us@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:22:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 Why get hung up on if the Misfits sign with a major label? Why get hung up if the Misfits are playing new stuff? Let them do what the hell they want to and we will, at least I will, enjoy whatever they do. If they sign with Geffen it will be easier to find the new albums and not end up paying for them with you life. If they do a video, so what. Don't you think it may actually be some-what interesting. Everybody seemed to be bashing Danzig for appearing to take no interest in the return of the Misfits, so what would you what to be remembered for something you did as a kid, and only remembered for that? Why try to label the Misfits' sound, it just is fucking good. Whether you call them punk, B-movie rock, or whatever, they are still the Misfits,even with a semi-different line-up. I have never been one for labeling music, my collection ranges from Wagner, Arlo Guthrie, Iron Butterfly, to Gwar; but that's me. Its your own trip so have fun. Excuse the prolonged ranting but this was my first post and I had a few things to get off my chest. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:13:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam P Segal Subject: SKIP IF THE COPYRIGHT STUFF BORES YOU To Bobby: I deleted your email address so I'll just post an answer about releasing the live tapes. First, copying and distributing songs will infringe the copyrights on the songs (these are all Glenn's right?). Using the "Misfits" name will infringe the rights in the name that Jerry & Co. won in their suit with Glenn. Using their personal names will infring their rights of publicity (called "rights of privacy" in the NY statutes for some reason), as will using their images if you do. As far as the copyright on the recording, I'd have to know who recorded it to tell you who has rights in it. Recording copyrights are typically owned by the person or company that arranged and financed the recording session. Owning the only copy of the tape doesn't give you ownership of the copyright in the recording. There's a famouse case about this concerning some guy who was given a rare George Thorogood demo and tried to release it. Thorogood shut him down with a lawsuit. If you just threw a tape into the soundboard cassette deck I don't know, but because of the song copyrights problem it seems a bit moot. This is the basic stuff. Unfortunately I can't give any specific advice online and you should definitely clear up all the rights issues before getting yourself hauled into court. It's kinda of lame, but "consulting an experienced attorney" is the safest way to go (I hate telling people that). Of course, you should make cassettes of all these rare recordings and send me a copy for my collection!! (ha ha). Someone mentioned Italy's lax copyright laws last time. Oh yeah, every country has different laws. I only know U.S. law. Brian Cox: you're absolutely right. If you have the permission of the copyright owner, forget about copyright law! The copyright act prohibits one thing and one thing only: UNAUTHORIZED copying, distribution, etc. If it's authorized, you're home free. My statements were only concerned with Misfits bootlegs, and others where there is NO permission. A tape made with permission is technically not a bootleg at all, it's simply a shitty sounding live tape. Last thing, anyone who wants a copy of my article: "Dissemination of Digitized Music on the Internet," from the Santa Clara Computer and High Technology Law Journal, can email me and I'll send you a reprint. It's pretty easy to follow and it spells out a lot of this stuff pretty clearly. Sorry for the length, but there seems to be a bit of interest on the list for the lowdown on bootlegs. --Adam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: asenath Subject: misfits @ the troc, chiller theatre last night i was at the troc in philly to see the thrill kill kult & deathride 69. anyways on their flyer the misfits show is listed way way down at the bottom in tiny letters, so apparently its not that big of a deal for them yet. tickets will probably be $15 and you can get them at the door, i doubt they will sell out. also, while i was there i was talking to a friend of a friend who is going to be a dealer at the chiller theatre show, he said that the misfits were going to be there, even though they aren't listed on the flyer, can anyone confirm this? well, i'm going either way. completly unrelated type o neg has been linked to some bizarre suicide pact here in pa. apparently one of their albums was found with the bodies along with some "black magic" paraphenalia. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : : : i will live forever, for i am truly blessed. : : my name will live in infamy, synonymous with death... : : -the electric hellfire club : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 19:52:06 -0700 From: Gene Kim Subject: Re:Geffen 138 The cranberries kick so much ass, it's unbelievable. Why don't you guys like Glenn Danzig? His voice is the reason The Misfits and Samhain and Danzig are around. It's like Dolores O'Riordan, without her, the cranberries would be pathetic, they'd just be Cranberry Saw Us and I make this comparison between Glenn and Dolores because they both have voices that are out of this world, Dolores stood out as a child in school because of her heavenly vocal emissions. Rock on and be at One with the Rock Gods my Rock brothers and sisters and look deep inside yourself for there ye shall find your rock 'n roll soul, the same rock 'n roll soul that is present in every man, woman, child, on this rockin' world! Let's go Minudo, Winger ROCKS! Rock AWWWNNNNN, WOO, YEAH!!! Fucking punk asses ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:25:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Villnave Subject: Minor sighting While watching Howard Stern's E-show the last few nights I have watched Marshmallow Mike where is Ressurection Tour shirt on camera! It's cool cause it's a huge Misfits skull on TV. I wish Howard would have commented on it so he could spoke about them but.. it was nice to see regardless. Later ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 00:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matt From MI" Subject: Re: Last ish This was supposed to go in last issue, but if you'll recall certain tradgedy's befell 50% of last issues messages. Upon reading last ish I was fairly disturbed to find out that the 'fits were planning on doing a comic book with fictitious background information dealing with their birth on another planet. This would be somewhat neat, but A.> The Misfits, even though they never did any very serious songs, never struck me as being a peticularly wacky, nutty band and B.> Fictitious background information dealing with birth on another planet has already been done, by a certain band we all know and love who's singer has a large penis with eye stalks, and has urinated on Misfits albums at Samhain shows - or so I've been told. So was Glenn supposed to be featured in this or not? It'd be pretty stupid to have a "Birth of the Misfits" without Glenn involved, seeing as he WAS the lead singer at the bands inception, and it was his band (please don't attack me because I said this). But anyway, that's a moot point. :) I wasn't aware that the Exploited were actually involved with the National Front, that being the British National Socialist Party responsible for the White Power skinhead movement. Are you sure this is accurate? Here's something interesting. My sister flipped on the horrid Empty-V the other day, and apparently there was something on where people send in home videos and the like, and MTV plays them. They deal with "controversial" issues such as Skateboarding rights, etc. Funny, none of them ever deal with the Anti-MTV sentiment amongst.. well.. essentially everyone. Anyways, one of them was on Underground comics, something I've been reading since the tender age of 15. Sadly enough, I actually saw a copy of "HATE", formerly one of my most favoritist comics in the whole wide world. Too bad it had to go color, ack, and all you comic fans know what I mean. Anyway, they showed the Verotika booth at the San Deigo comic con, which suprised me somewhat. But is NOTHING sacred from MTV? Will this rediculous endeavor to infiltrate and cheapen our scene ever end? Maybe someone should organize an Anti-MTV group of some sort, which would be very nice to see, and I'm sure we'd at least get support from Jello Biafra, amongst others. :) Do any of the current Fits read comics? If so, I suggest old copies of Hate by P. Bagge, anything by R. Crumb (even though he is identified with a lot of stupid hippy shit, he claims he basically hated hippies in his biographical movie), Crap by J.R. WIlliams, Milk and Cheese/Pirate CORP$ aka Hectic Planet by Evan Dorkin, Eightball by Dan Clowes, and Peepshow by Joe Matt. I'm not sure if any of these titles even still exist, since I've not purchased comics in about 6 mnths to a year.. seeyas Matt Voodoo Child sXer and Fiend at Large Check out my page! www.grfn.org/~gravis - "I'm Crazy, and I'm hurt" -Black Flag - "You stand to the side, Rebirth of HARDCORE PRIDE!" -Gorilla Biscuits - "Fuckin' people that I see, always fucking starin' at me" -The Undead - "I go out looking for the elusive bikini spider.." -The Migraines - "Oi! Oi! Oi! Chosen few, this is what we think of you.." -The Business - "Out of step with the world!" -Minor Threat - "I don't need to waste my time, I don't need more shit." -S.O.A. This large sig will be readjusted with new quotes periodically for your reading pleasure. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:28:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam P Segal Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 To Dave Attanasio: About the Misfits having to pay Glenn to play his songs: This may sound strange but it's not the band that has to pay to play those songs live, it's the venues! Yep, the way it works is that bars and clubs that want to have live or recorded music played in their venue have to pay the performance rights societies royalties for the songwriters. The main performance rights societies are BMI (broadcast music incorporated) and ASCAP (american society of composers artists and producers or somethingarather). Songwriters joing these societies so they don't have to track down every bar in america themselves. The venues pay a percentage of yearly gross, based on capacity and how much member-music they play. I think evilive music (glenn's publisher) is a BMI affiliated publisher. Of course the bar and restaurant owners call it extortion, but really there's no other way for the songwriters to enforce their performance rights. By the way, there is no performance right in the sound recordings (at least for analog performances). So, neither the record companies or the recording artists get any of these performance royalties. (If the artist IS the songwriter, obviously they get performance royalties, but for being the song writer, not for playing on the record). Back again with more than you wanted to know about copyright law soon, --Adam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:48:29 -0700 From: Joe Franke Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 i should point out that when Danzig was first signed to Def American, it was distributed by geffen, which was distributed by warner. geffen dropped def american because of the Geto boys, but later, geffen and warner parted. Geffen did not do much for danzig, but it was not as big a deal as some of you might think. also, Black Flag released a record on unicorn/MCA... a major label. the Dead kennedys have ties to majors from way back in terms of distributors, although part of the experiences made them feel the way they did about them. oh, if that guy still want the original Social D. LP email me... Joe Franke "horror business...and horror personal..." jfranke@slip.net http://www.slip.net/~jfranke ------------------------------ From: DANZIG8525@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 14:53:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING DEAF?????? I just bought a live recording bootleg of the new lineup on tour and man Micheal Graves butchers from song one. The only song he sounded good on was The Haunting. With out jerry backing his ass up what would he do?? I am so dissapointed at the twins of evil for picking this fool. And you guys are fucking idiots for thinking they even sound good because they fucking suck. The guy has a voice like a girl he's a pussy. MARK KENNEDY i know you keep in touch with the band, Now listen i have made a tape with my voice dubbed over Glenn's on a bunch of songs now tell where theres somewhere i can send it so jerry and doyle can hear it. They will not be dissapointed, seriously these were recorded live and i compared them to michael graves and there a hell of a lot better. Thats from about 10-15 differant people and they didint even know which was which. So seriously if the boys want to drop this embarrasment they got going then they should just give me one shot thats all i would need. You have to be crazy if Geffen wants to sign the fits' they must be really desperate or they have only heard them with Glenn, because Michael Graves sucks. SO TO ALL YOU FIENDS IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAR SOME REAL SHIT JUST LISTEN TO YOUR OLD RECORDINGS BECAUSE THE NEW LINE-UP STINKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A new head singer my address is 2314 willow Pearland, Texas 77581 (713)997-9355. If your smart the guys will get this information this is the blessing they have been waiting for. "Through these eyes i've looked the devil in the face." SHAWN MOUNGER ------------------------------ From: NikChicken@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:37:01 -0400 Subject: Bass/Wes sucks Yeah Greg, I remember. We were pretty stupid. Anybody who plays bass and knows the basslines for stuff like Come Back and She Please let me know. I'd like to get the tab for some of this stuff but the page does not have basslines Wes, you sack'o'shit. If ya got something ta say, don't waste precious MB space ripping on me when the same effort could be put forth in a personal e-mail It's NikChicken@aol.com No I'm not changing my name. If you don't yet understand why this is my name, then you'll never figure it out. And I'm not telling. Bye Nick Chicken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: asenath Subject: misfits @ birchhill oh, i almost forgot. does anyone know directions to the birch hill for this friday, i'll becoming from pennsylvania.... thanks. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : : : i will live forever, for i am truly blessed. : : my name will live in infamy, synonymous with death... : : -the electric hellfire club : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Subject: anotherlongpostaboutheNewFitssigningtoGeffen...READTHISPUNKER!!! From: dave naked Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 09:30:20 EDT G E F F E N Well...for one, I like it. Before you banish me to hell, just think about it. The album will be have by far better distribution. If it was on there own label, no way in hell would you find it in your local record store. I cant even find stuff on semi-major labels like Lookout!, and Fat Wreck, what store is gonna order stuff from Cyclopian??? By signing to a major, the day it comes out i can go to my local Tower Records and pick it up instead of going to twenty stores and finally having to trek over to Generation in the city. Second, the band wont have to distribute it themselves...does anyone know have to distribute a album....its one hell of a BITCH. Also, the tour would be funded by a major source...translates, more dates, MORE CHANCES FOR YOU TO SEE THEM. The album will look better (dont ask me how i figure, but major albums allways have a different, more finished look to them). There will be promos, limited editions, MORE SHIT FOR YOU TO GET. OK, the downside is that the fiend club will go to total shit...but, did you really like those crazy postcards??!! It sucked to start out with (the new one that is), i hope they have a cool Christmas package. About the misfits on MTV. Heh, you actually believe that will happen??!! come on, maybe (MAYBE) at 4AM, but please....never mainstream. Other "skary" bands like Marilyn Manson have allready lost mainstream appeal (well, not really...they are mainstream, but just not on MTV), there new vid cant even get daytime slots. The misfits?? no way. Will they even have any radio songs?? NOOO. Well, i didnt hear about 21 of them, but still...have the misfits ever had radio songs? (hmmmm....maybe "braineaters", at least what they thought...did they make that video for MTV...mark???). Well, you better learn to like it kiddies...depending on how the new record (NewAmongUS??) does, they may even be signed directly to Geffen and not a sub label (the difference between "Gish" (on Caroline, who has it???) and "Simease Dream" (on Virgin, owner of Caroline, caprillion seller)). Well just have to see... other things... Juno fiends---email me, i want to see how many of you are out there...ill tell you why when you mail me. Anyone know where to get the CD "Shocking Return", PLEASE TELL ME...Id be quite happy. laters d Dave Naked davenaked@juno.com My GirlFriends Possessed MGFP@Juno.com Mike Seaver MikeSeaver@Juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:23:34 -0230 (NDT) From: Alex Pritchett Subject: MISFITS ZINE!!!! hey fiends, I am thinking of writing a zine about the FITs and the related bands. I figure I will chage about 10 bucks Canadian for one year.... don't know how many issues a year it will be yet :). Anyways this is not much American so if anyone out there in Misfit Bible land or elsewhere is interested please e-mail me. put ASTROZOMBIE:ZINE in the subject. Also Mark if I was to do this .... could I use some of the pics and bios etc. from your page..... Thanx, ASTROZOMBIE .,+'`'+,.,+'`+,.,+'`+,.,+'`+,.,+'`'+,.,+'` -=> Charles Pritchett <=- Labrador City, NF -=> apritche@nlnet.nf.ca <=- `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+`'`+,.,+'` ------------------------------ From: John Ward Subject: Ride, Johnny Ride Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 13:17:12 -0700 Greetings Fiends, Anyone out there wondering what to do for vacation in the near future (besides follow the Misfits on tour), well wonder no more. According to the September 29 Seattle Times there is now a guy in Dallas who operates a tourist ride retracing Kennedy's final trip. But wait, it gets better, the car you ride in is an open-air black Lincoln limosine and you can sit on the back just like JFK. The article also said that in the car the guy plays a tape of a cheering crowd and then at the precise moment you here the gunshots ring out and the car speeds towards the hospital where JFK died. Sounds cool to me, although I think they should also have "Bullet" playing. --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: THX 1138 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 21:12:34 +0000 Subject: Misfits Slideshow! Hey, Fiends... I recently finished my Misfits:For Fiends Only slideshow (written in Turbo Pascal 7.0) and I want you all to take a look at it and tell me what you think... you can download it from my web-site (address forthcoming) or you can e-mail me and I can send it to you as an attachment... there are special instructions on my page if you plan to download it. My address is: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/1094 and you can find it on my links page. Special note to Mark: I want you especially to look over it and point out any errors I may have made. Thanks, THX --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Do you think we're robot clean, Does this face look almost mean, It's time to be an android, not a man." The Misfits, "We Are 138" You've been contacted by THX 1138 (mnance@marsh.vinu.edu), be afraid. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/1094 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:50:49 -0700 From: Justin Deming Subject: Re: #232 I haven't posted since my last post because I simply needed a break. I could tell when I read yet another post from myself where I threw the laws of English to Hell again! Mark, yes, you said, "STOP." That WAS bitching and moaning at me, just all at once. Don't worry, I've gotten over it. #230 just wasn't good for my blood pressure. As for those who unsubscribed because of me, I say that's because they are simply idiots. They went off of what everyone else was saying and their paranoid mindset got the best of them. The fact is, after I made my mistake of a post, I only got 1, count it, 1 flame for it in the following Bible. However, in the next one after that, the flood gates had opened. *gasp* It seems even these oh so punk fans can be influenced and even, what heresy this must be, join a BANDWAGON! Anyway, I'm glad to see your decisions. About the new album: I am anxious to see what happens without Danzig in the band. My worst fear is that they'll sound nothing like the original versions of the group. I'm interested to see that now ALL of the band members are writing songs, although it seems that they are doing so seperatly (besides Michale & Doyle). This doesn't look good for the continuety of the album! Maybe it's some kind of Misfits rule, only one person can write a song... 25 songs sounds great for a Misfits album, though. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd feel at least a bit silly buying an old Misfits CD because it'd be like 30 minutes! 25 songs would give it a least 45 minutes, I'm sure! As for Geffen Records, I'd be glad to see the Misfits on a major. The Misfits, by any other label, are still the Misfits. My only worry is that the Misfits would become insanly popular and Danzig not given any credit for all he's done with the band. I know many of you out there are waiting to lash out at me and say, "A real punk band like the Misfits could never become popular," but I could easily see them becoming popular. You may not have noticed, or just might not be willing to admit it, but the music by the Misfits is incredibly CATCHY! You only need to hear a Misfits song once and you'll be humming, tapping, and/or singing along. Weren't you when you first heard a Misfits song??? Well, that's it for this post. I still have several MBs to plow through, so I'll see you later! - J. ------------------------------ From: thl19@pacbell.net Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:05:51 -0700 Subject: bassline Hey fiends, hows it going. I know that you guys probably already know this, but I think that the bassline to London Dungeon is wrong. ON the tabs it is posted as E:--8-3-8-3---:, but I played along to it and it sounds totally off key and horribly wrong. Then I messed around and I started out with some open E's and then 5 and 3 and I started over with the open E's. Try out both ways, just play along to the rythm. It's not just one note, but several. I know that this is either wrong or you fiends already know this. Oh well, huh? I just wanted to tell ya! WolfsblooD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:16:17 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: October stuff... Hello My fellow fiends... Can you believe we are one month and one day away from one of two of the OUR holidays. Halloween!!! Though we are only 26 days away from the real Samhain. So at this point you must be wondering where the hell is she going with all this!?! To the ULTIMATE IN HORROR/SCI FI TRIVIA GAME. This the deal, for one month (the three winners will be posted the day after Halloween) there will be 5 trivia questions every issue of the bible. These questions will be based on movies, actors, the link between the misfits and horror/sci fi movies, even the link between reality and horror/sci fi. Some questions will be easy and some will be wicked hard (be worned i have 24 years of this under my belt). Next i figure you want to know how you win, well each monday i will also post the running totals of points for each person playing and the correct answers for the previous weeks questions. Prizes, well i'm still working out some details on what they will be, and i will let everyone know soon. Oh, by the way question points - # 1 - worth 1pt., #2 - worth 1pt., #3 - worth 2pts., #4 - worth 2pts., #5 - worth 3pts. Todays Questions - 1) Boris Karloff's Real name? (please don't tell me you thought that was his real name) 2) The movie that shares the same name as one of Bobby Steele's bands and what year did it come out? 3) Which Misfits song shares the same name as a movie about giant wasps invading Africa? 4) What do the movies THEM and THE THING have in common? 5) What is H.R. stand for in H.R. Giger's name and to be nice 2 extra points for the persons who can tell me the nick name it stands for. (it was in an issue of Famous Monsters of Filmland) ? well once you have the answers e-mail them to me (tes777@bridge.net) and remember they have to be in before next monday when i give out the answers for this weeks questions. Next 5 will be posted on Wed. 10/2. Good luck. Later to all the fiendies!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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ADAM WEST boots Meatmen & the Damned & The Misfits stuff cool screen saver The next set... Various stuff Bloodfeast ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 03:15:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Last Bastard of Rock Does anyone know when there is a comic book convention in Toronto or surrounding area? I'd like to go see the Verotik display and spit on Glenn, just kidding j. ------------------------------ Date: Mon Sep 30 01:12:06 1996 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Walk Among Us, Graves, & Videos... 1) Walk Among Us> J Ruby was NOT owned by Warner Brothers at the time of its release. Here's the history: Slash records (there is another, older slash owned by CEMA i believe...). was begun by the publishers of Slash magazine in the late 70's. J Ruby records started up around the same time. A few years after, J Ruby bought up Slash and turned it into a "real" business. At this time both were still independent (though I dont know what distro deals they might have had). Slash employees thought that Ruby was very ruthless and basically jerks who were in it for the money. After WAU went out of press... and I think after WAU was pressed in Italy (around 85 then?) Slash/Ruby was bought up by Warner Brothers. the big prizes at that time were Fear, X, etc... but then when the misfits got some notice notice.. in 87 or whatever WEA decided to repress. This is my memory so it might be out of order but fuck it. that's my best memory. 2> Graves> Ewch. I've heard tfor the first time a recording with graves. Gawd.. they need a decent singer and a decent songwriter. I'm sorry but that'shorrible. Maybe it's because it was the first real gig they did. but still. bLah. (and i'm sure he's a great guy... he seems really cool but he's just not right for the Misfits...) 3) Videos> if you band has any videos.. basement tapes or whatever please let me know so i can play them on my show. ooh.. about the misfits video.... at one time MTV had times of the day they played real underground videos. --- --------------==============================------------------ New Order... No Order.... allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:23:54 -0700 (MST) From: John B Perrin Subject: Fuck Glenn Danzig! like i said, i saw the misfits in tucson, and they rocked, and glenn danzig can just go fuck himself because he is a pompus little bastard, he doesnt know how to sing, and all my support goes to the new lead singer, Glenn Danzig was not the misfits, oh he is so evil, by the way, its all a front, face it, Danzig sucks, the only reason he got popular is because of MTV, what a fucking sellout. Fucking elvis impersonator, lets face it, danzig is a steroid pumping motherfucker and has no balls because of it, some girl i know got to go in with him, she laughed when he pulled out his dick, lets face it, Jerry and the boys are better off without the loser, plus the new guy sounds exactly like, if not better old Glenn fuckhead. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:48:13 -0700 (MST) From: John B Perrin Subject: Observations first of all, Geffen sucks, and is nothing but corporate rock in which big shithead producers sit on thier corporate post fratboy asses and try to change the style of bands like the misfits to bands like metallica and soundgarden, In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if Misfits played Lollapoloser now that Metallica (the van halen wannabes) has. Dont get me wrong, I like the misfits, but im not paying the fucking corporate price for the fucking CD, I'll pay the clerk at the music store 7 bucks to dub the tape so the corporate asshole doesn't make his fucking money, i urge you all to do the same, what a fucking joke, Misfits gone mainstream. Second thing...Metallica isn't shit, metallica is just a bunch of fucking rich snobs who want to jump on every fucking bandwagon that comes into town, who are they going to look like next, KISS? their last two albums suck shit, and they cant play live because they suck, metallica is just a bunch of corporate rock pussies, sucking the cock of some MTV CEO to play their video to make more money. and you all love this fucking band? third thing...corporate labels suck, as well as corporate rock, people from tucson know this type of thing, fuck those who cant get in the pit but whine about it, you all sound like my fucking puss friend in Colorado who claims he's all that in a pit, but wouldnt even mosh at a fucking NIN concert in West Virginia, and he thinks he is a fucked up motherfucker because he can say he moshes, but everyone just looks at him like "yeah, ok dude, i've been to two concerts with you, and did you mosh? NO!" all you fucking do is complain about the pits then dont go to the concert. It seems to me that many people share this idea, and if you dont like it then you can go fuck yourself, son of a bitch, im tired, beware of corporate rock fucks! later JP ------------------------------ From: LEAH A JUSTIS Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:51:00, -0500 Subject: Michale? BAD? In the last issue some idiot said that Michale is a terrible singer and the we must all be deaf. He's making this judgement about Michale from a bootleg of probably very poor sound quality. C'mon now, it's a lot harder to sound good live then it is to sound good on a cd. If you think you sound better it's probably because you weren't running around and sweating your ass off while you were singing like Michale was. And if 10-15 people say you were better, chances are they are biased because they are your friends. I don't think the misfits are going to dump Michale and get you to sing. They seem to really like him, so why would they get a little stupid-ass punk to replace him when they obviously know how he sings(I think the rest of the band has heard him sing). I personally think he is a fabulous singer, and a lot of people agree with me (and not one of them was deaf). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:05:11 -0500 From: Brian Cox Subject: Geffen, etc. I think people are missing the point. For some reason everybody is assuming, (well not everybody), that as soon as the Misfits sighn with Geffen everybody will all of a sudden decide that the Misfits are the next "in" thing and rush out an buy all of there albums. I just don't see that happening at all. The Misfits have what amounts to a fan base that can't and will not getmuch bigger at best. Sure, they might gain some fans here and there but not very many. Sighning with a major label does not make a band popular. You can promote a band all that you want and it will do no good unless people start likeing them. Not to say that the Misfits aren't a likable band bt not too many people will be sitting there watching T.V. and see a song like Braineaters come on and say to themselves, "You know, that song kicks ass, I'm buying those guys album." Sighning with a big label doesn't mean that they have to quit playing clubs either. As I said earlier, my favorite band right now is probably the Melvins and they are sighned wiith Atlantic. There a major label and you havn't seen any of there videos have you? I have seen them twice this tour, they have a new album out, in small clubs with the price of tickets being $8.50 and $10. Now tell me, why does it have to be any different for the Misfits. To those of you how think the Misfits will become big because of this new "punk" explosion thing that is happening. It just won't happen. Not if they keep doing what they are doing. > What the fuck??? What is a "trendy punk poser"? Would you know one if you > saw one? Fuck, half the people in the audience who look like schlubs, > dressed in normal clothes and what not are probably more into the band than > the kids who get that special devilock haircut for the show and brag to > their friends about kicking someones ass. I stay out of the pit cause I'm > there to watch the band kick ass, and not get all hot and sweatly rubbing > up against other guys. And at 6' 3" and 275, I want to see your bro try to > destroy me, cause hes gonna be eating and shitting through a fucking tube > the rest of his life. Just what the shows need, more fucking violence .... I have to totally agree with this guy, though I'm being too lazt to look up who actually said it. Who are you to jusge, just by the way a person looks, as to whether or not they like the music. And another thing, those damn moshers, I have to say that I really resent you. I go to a concert to see a band, not get run into or pushed aroung every time something moderatly fast comes on. I have nothing against people moshing but just keep it away from me. It also never ceases to amaze me how every show I go to a guy, who has just gotten a beer, gets hit and spills it all on me, or at least someone I know. also, to that guy who was talking about the new Descendents album. I don't really remember who it was but I do remember you saying that you probably were not going to buy it because you thought it would sound just like All with Milo singing. Well, it doesn't really. It is actually pretty good. I think it a little harder than a lot ofthe Descendents I have heard. Still a pretty good album. ------------------------------ From: "JOSEPH M. NINOSKY" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:25:52 PST Subject: No Gene Kim, you must understand that Dolores O'Riordan not only helps the Cranberries to make socially acceptable shitbox music (a la Weezer) but that comparing her to Glenn Danzig is doing Glenn a disservice. His vision and presence create the musical projects, as well as his power voice and songwriting skill. Dolores' lumpy ass (gimpy knee included, Nancy Kerrigan copy-cat) does not cut it. ------------------------------ From: Geoffrey King Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #237 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:35:00 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:25:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: Villnave > Subject: Minor sighting > > While watching Howard Stern's E-show the last few nights I have watched > Marshmallow Mike where is Ressurection Tour shirt on camera! It's cool cause > it's a huge Misfits skull on TV. I wish Howard would have commented on it so > he could spoke about them but.. it was nice to see regardless. I have often seen Howard himself sporting a black flag t-shirt on occasion. > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:48:29 -0700 > From: Joe Franke > Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #236 > > a deal as some of you might think. also, Black Flag released a record on > unicorn/MCA... a major label. the Dead kennedys have ties to majors from i must have missed that black flag album. for my info, which one was it? i thought that all of the were on SST, you know, the guitar players label which he releases any and all band he is involved in even if they suck really really badly. i'm not putting down greg ginn, the man has tallent, just don't let him near a microphone. anyways, what record is this that you are talking about? -- Geoff King gk001e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu, allroy@cif.rochester.edu i rage this war against myself, and i'm not the only casualty. --falling forward ------------------------------ From: x-ray Subject: Re: this Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:29:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Daniel J. Jakel" > > This is about Ken D WaRD'S questions about Mars Attacks! the movie. I > have no idea that the Misfits were ever involved directly with the movie. > I know that Mars Attacks! is the title of their upcoming album, I dunno if > there's gonna be a soundtrack or whatever. If so then the Misfits should The Misfits won't be on the soundtrack. Jerry wrote the song and the Mars Attacks movie people didn't have any interest. > From: "Matt From MI" > Upon reading last ish I was fairly disturbed to find out that the 'fits > were planning on doing a comic book with fictitious background > information dealing with their birth on another planet. This would be > Fictitious background information dealing with birth on another > planet has already been done, by a certain band we all know and love > who's singer has a large penis with eye stalks, and has urinated on > Misfits albums at Samhain shows - or so I've been told. I'm baffled here... if you're referring to Samhain, what comic book were they in? > So was Glenn supposed to be featured in this or not? It'd be pretty Of course. This is precisely the reason he had the power to veto it. > From: Shawn Mounger > ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING DEAF?????? I just bought a live recording bootleg of > the new lineup on tour and man Micheal Graves butchers from song one. The I think he sounds great... you might have a bad bootleg. > pussy. MARK KENNEDY i know you keep in touch with the band, Now listen i > have made a tape with my voice dubbed over Glenn's on a bunch of songs now > tell where theres somewhere i can send it so jerry and doyle can hear it. Hey, you could send it to me. I'd like to hear it, but don't bother sending it to the band. They're very happy with Michale. > From: asenath > > oh, i almost forgot. does anyone know directions to the birch hill for > this friday, i'll becoming from pennsylvania.... Hey guy - didn't you read last issue? That show is taking place in November - it's been postponed. > From: Alex Pritchett > Subject: MISFITS ZINE!!!! > > I am thinking of writing a zine about the FITs and the related bands. I > figure I will chage about 10 bucks Canadian for one year.... don't know how > many issues a year it will be yet :). Anyways this is not much American so > if anyone out there in Misfit Bible land or elsewhere is interested please > e-mail me. put ASTROZOMBIE:ZINE in the subject. > Also Mark if I was to do this .... could I use some of the pics and bios > etc. from your page..... This is an interesting idea. You might want to check out Angry Red for some ideas. You can order back issues of this Misfits and related fanzine from keith138@aol.com. I don't mind if you use stuff from the web page - you might want to contact some of the people who actually took the pictures. mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:00:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Last Bastard of Rock Does anyone know anything about the new Helmet CD or a possible tour? How about the exploited? I heard they're touring with GBH or something! How about Tool? Send all your answers my way, and all Ontario fiends send me a line too. J. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:02:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Villnave Subject: Michale and shaun..moron! SHAWN MOUNGER! You want michale kicked out and you want to be the singer! Are you fucking insane. I would like to be the singer too. I'd love it and I think I could do a good job, however, they chose Michale. You know why??? CAUSE HE FUCKIN KICKS ASS!He was fuckin great I saw him come on stage and there was a presence. He also sounded fuckin great and the whole mechanics of the band were in tact. You sound like the biggest fuckin asshole on earth, so you could never be in the fits because they are nice guys. Are you saying that the these guys chose the wrong guy??? Are you questioning THE MISFITS' judgement about who should be the MISFITS singer??? Do you think think they don't know who is best for the job??? It pisses me off to think that Michale reads this shit, and has to go on stage with the words of people like you in his head. Like there isn't enough pressure on the dude. Michale rules... and I don't see the problem.. NO hes not glenn danzig...and I think that's the whole point here bud! So squit singin to your old records trying to sound like Glenn... :) Later ******************************************************** misfit@dreamscape.com also known as SaTaN "I bash myself to sleep" "We walk the streets at night, we go where eagles dare" "If I had time to kill the world I'd try, but I'm busy.... killing me" ********************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 30 SEP 96 15:20:13 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: cranberries? somebody wrote - > The cranberries kick so much ass, it's unbelievable. Why > don't you guys like Glenn Danzig? His voice is the reason The Misfits > Samhain and Danzig are around. It's like Dolores O'Riordan, without her, > the cranberries would be pathetic, they'd just be Cranberry Saw Us > make this comparison between Glenn and Dolores because they both have > voices that are out of this world, Dolores stood out as a child in school > because of her heavenly vocal emissions. huh? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:59:49 +0100 (CET) From: Petar Milicic Subject: pfff... Well,guess i was wrong.I thaught this is supose to be real,old Misfits fan Bible....And i don`t realy understand that shit about going big.If you think this lineup of `Misfits` can go big than you`re morons.These guys suck,and they suck realy big.Misfits are dead.What we can do is play their old records.With Glenn`s voice.It was his world(I read in last ish. something like "They wasnt serious"....Well you may think so).Bros Caiafa were just punk-players like so many others.And anyone who played in some band knows there is one boss,spine of bend,otherwise band can`t be.The tallent of Bross-Only = Kryst the conquerer so judge byyourself.Must say I`ve realy liked Doyle though.Who can follow horrorworld of Glen Danzig can,who can`t let him listen to `Misfits` or George Michael.And hey,I`ve read that Glenn wants to make $ on Misfits.Who should make money on song if not guy who wrote lyrics,music and who`s voice made Misfits what they were. So that`s all Dominator ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:19:13 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #237 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) >From: "Mikkelson, Laura Kathleen" >Subject: well that's just great! > >Thanks a lot everybody! You guys made Wes leave! Way to go! -Laura M. Let's all email Wes and tell him to come back. C'mon, people ! This guy keeps this place interesting. His randomly moronic comments are what punk rock is all about. >From: Adam P Segal >Subject: SKIP IF THE COPYRIGHT STUFF BORES YOU > >To Bobby: I deleted your email address so I'll just post an answer about >releasing the live tapes. . . . As far as the >copyright on the recording, I'd have to know who recorded it to tell >you who has rights in it. Recording copyrights are typically owned by >person or company that arranged and financed the recording session. These shows were recorded by me with Glenn's permission. >Of course, you should make cassettes of all these rare recordings and >send me a copy for my collection!! (ha ha). Well, that's what I figured. I keep hearing different things about this, and it does get confusing - so I figured I'd ask a pro. >From: DANZIG8525@aol.com >Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 14:53:48 -0400 > >ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING DEAF?????? . . . . > They will not be dissapointed, seriously these were recorded live and >i compared them to michael graves and there a hell of a lot better. >head singer my address is 2314 willow Pearland, Texas 77581 >(713)997-9355. > If your smart the guys will get this information this is the blessing they >have been waiting for. "Through these eyes i've looked the devil in the >face." > SHAWN MOUNGER Words of wisdom . . . from GOD himself. I'm sure this guy has more talent in his little finger than all the rest of the world. A true lesson in humility. We all know that Michale is doing a great job. >From: John Ward >Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 13:17:12 -0700 > >Anyone out there wondering what to do for vacation in the near future >retracing Kennedy's final trip. But wait, it gets better, the car you >ride in This has got to be the most tasteless thing I've ever heard of . . . I LOVE IT. >From: thl19@pacbell.net >Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:05:51 -0700 > >Hey fiends, hows it going. > > I know that you guys probably already know this, but I think Okay. The riff is on the E string. The fret positions are 0 7 3 5 3 2 The bass plays 0 5 3 ------------------------------ From: cybernaut@mtsi.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:55:18 -0700 Subject: misfits bible >ADAM #15 said -> This is to all of those people out there who think that >>having trendy punk posers at misfits concerts. I think it is the greatest >>thing because you have an excuse to kick some ass. These posers usually >>stand around the pit, just watching, too scared to go in. You can go by >>and give them a good ol' Gordie Howe elbow to the skull. They are usually >>too scared to do anything. My brother loves to just destroy these >>pansies. Tecnomancer says-> Fuck off you geek. Only a small minority of punks look like stereotypical ugly fashion victims who waste thier time in the pit instead of watching a great band like the MISFITS play live. I was on the the edge of pit not frightened to go in, but watching the band and trying to get the best tape recording I can. Tapes sound like shit when some sweaty cunt keeps bashing into the tape recorder. I bet your brother is compensating for a small penis and several sexual encounters with his brother. Chemical Peel Web Fanzine cybernaut@mtsi.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/7908/ ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:18:00 -0400 Subject: Tape order update plus more Fiends, I just figured I'd fill you in on all the bootleg tape info. First of all, lots of new stuff, lots of Cannibal Corpse/Anthrax jams--check them out. Second, the cost of tapes is $5. This includes EVERYTHING, yes EVERYTHING. Tapes, shipping, time, whatever. Don't send a tape, don't send extra cash. The only exceptions are of course for foreign or special orders. Third, all your tapes will be out this week. If you don't get them by this time next week, let me know. J. Kendrick, I saved your order, as I was expecting a new interview to send you. Four--I am always actively searching for bootlegs, Misfits, Samhain, Danzig, Undead, etc. We can work out a trade. If you have a band demo, I'll trade a boot tape for your tape or 2 for a CD. Your demo will also be reviewed in Smitty Hines and my zine, "Alloy". Five--I will not tape previously released recordings that are still in print (ie Undead, Times Square, Danzig LPs, etc). Kryst the Conquerer is not in print, so that's on the list. Also, for those interested in boots of the other bands, check out my full collection on the collector's page. The same prices apply. Away from tapes.... AZ is right again. I was meaning to comment on the comments by ADAM #15 about pits. If someone wants to watch a concert, you shouldn't give them shit about it. I was at a concert and lets face it, people like ADAM started a pit after being told NOT to several times, and what happens? Cops come, guns are drawn, shit hits the fan, all because you can't vent your frustration in a productive way. Shawn Mounger--if you were so great, you would've sent the band a tape when they were looking for singers. Hell, if you're as good as you say you are, you should be in a great band by now! Your opinions are yours, but can't you express them in a mature fashion? Chris ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:02:12 +0200 Subject: thank you beavis >Not to mention; Who would even know who the fuck THE MISFITS were if >it weren't for CLIFF. He was the one who turned METALLICA . . . and >then the world on to THE MISFITS. Not me Bob-O... Beavis and Butthead (funny, eh?)turned me to them about 3 years ago... First Danzig, then on to the Misfits. I never heard Green Hell before i heard the misfits. *** Talk to me over the 'Net! *** Iphone address: Dorin@pub1.ipn.vocaltec.com ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:22:20 +0200 Subject: misfits zine >I am thinking of writing a zine about the FITs and the related bands. what else more can be said? good luck -greg ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:25:25 +0200 Subject: hehe Justin said: >I haven't posted since my last post because... read that again Justin. I haven't read that sentence since I last read that sentence. :) have i posted enough yet? ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:14:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #237 to whoever (especially voodookid) What the hell is so wrong with MTV? A lot of bands on there have more musical talent than a lot of punk bands and a lot have more talent than the Misfits. No, that doesn't mean they're better. Hell, I can play guitar better than Doyle... but I digress. really. what's wrong with MTV, so what if some people listen to nothing outside of the "cooler" music... Just listenening to what you like won't kill you. Unfortunately it will destroy any punk image you have, but that's so phony anyway... I admit to a wide variety of music... Anything from Pearl Jam to Pungent Stench, or Vivaldi, or Bach, or WuTang or dick dale or elvis or whatever... whatever the F pleases my effin ears. jesus christ, can't some of you open your mind and not stick to a goddam image?! mark, this thing is so frustrating :) -greg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:06:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Guero666 Subject: Prophecy 2 I talked to a so called "reliable source" who says that Glenn was flying out of Toronto after the Hamilton,ON show to be filmed as an archangel in the movie the Prophecy 2. Anyone else know about this? Also the show in Hamilton was amazing to say the least the band sounds great - especially the song Sacrifice. G6 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:16:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarah Hemler Subject: Read the whole thing before you jump to conclusions ok..i know i don't write much..hell i have only wrote one other thing in here....My name isn't Sarah...i am using her account so no i'm not a girl..i just wanted to make that clear...No what i am about to write are not my own words..they are a friends of mine that wanted me to post this..he has read a few of the Bible postings and he has somethings he would like to add....ok..now don't go and start writing me all this shit about you think he is full of shit and all of this stuff alright..well here you go... Now i'm not writing all of this to tell of my problems or get on here to talk about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the misfits.But i am going on here through a friend to see if I can get somewhat of a responce to what I see as maybe some upcoming problems.First things first, after reading through all this information I'm a little bit suprised the Misfits are possibly going to sign with Gaffen records.Now that may not bother anyone else but it sorta pisses me off.Now it's Geffen,before i heard something about Sony, I hate to say it but you guys don't need some big major label.Bofore I remember hearing something about bending down to the ranks of corperate business, corperate cock, whatever you call it.And no matter what the Misfits were before, all this stuff sort of makes me doubt things.I know their are a million other labels out there, better labels.People who don't sign acts like Guns 'N' Roses and bands of the calibur.It's bullshit.I know the misfits have gotten bigger and expanded their audience but still,why do you need a big company like that?I mean hell it's not like their not making enough money to start there own label, without Gaffen or someone elses help.Sure you'd be drawing a bigger span of fans by doing that, or going on MTV, or doing stupid shit like that.But at the same time you'd be driving awya lot's of other fans, like me and my friends.So do what you want, but if you guys are really concered about your fans (like you say you are), you'd think about what you're gonna do to your true fans.Cause maybe,eventually,you would be placed up there with all the other rock stars of now-a-days:Glen Danzig, Henry Rollins.It's just the little things, like $150 models of Jerry + the such, possible interviews with Rolling Stone, $18 tickets, and $60 wall plaques.The true essence of the Misfits isn't a toy model, or a plaque to hang on your wal.It's the music and the true meaning of it all.And don't get me wrong,there the best fucking band i have ever heard, and thats why I'm saying all this, cause i don't want see them turn to shit like so many other bands have.But i know the won't Joe C. I realize that most of the things he said where meant for the Misfits to read..but since that isn't going to happen..or atleast i don't think it will he just wanted to express what he feels is going to happen.I know most of you are probably saying that he must not be a real fan since he wouldn't say this if he was but he is..only a real fan would give a damn about what happened to the band....bye Pappy.Bort ------------------------------ From: MR HAROLD W JAFFE Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:06:25, -0500 Subject: vinyl if anyone has a copy of collection 2 on any colored vinyl, could they please e-mail me. Bobby what is the address for post mortem, and do you have a phone #? Mark, maybe you could answer this, how many copies of collection 1 were made on vinyl, any colored vinyl? thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:23:35 -0700 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Misfits signing, Danzig adjusting Okay, my attitude toward the Misfits (possibly) signing to Geffen is: more power to 'em. Of course, to the person who said that "Glenn is on a major label and didn't have to change anything and so the Misfits won't either" -- well, neither half of that necessarily holds any weight. If Glenn didn't think his music was being directed in a way he didn't necessarily like, then why go back to producing more of his own tracks instead of leaving that up to Rick Rubin? And of course, Glenn's success or failure with retaining his rights in the music industry has no bearing whatsoever on what happens to the Misfits. If the Misfits sign to a major label and it does indeed turn out that they no longer control their own musical destiny, then it's THEIR OWN DAMN FAULT. And then all of you can say "I told you so", if that's really what gets you off. Further, someone commented that that it might be good to get outside management because the "inbred" nature of the band is what tends to make it cheesy. I think that's wrong. From what I can tell, Rocky (their manager and brother) has somewhat different ideas on what the image of the band should be, how it should be presented etc., than Jerry does. But it's Jerry and Doyle's band, so what they say basically goes. So they can't win, can they? If they lose their "artistic freedom" they're sellouts in you guys' eyes. If they keep it, then they're going all cheesy and they aren't keeping the image you guys want. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. As far as Danzig's new album being industrial, if you think this is going to be a "one album" change you're fooling yourself. You can see it coming with tracks like "Sadistikal" and the one he made a video out of. But personally, I think it's a change for the better. Just so long as he can avoid coming off like a wanna-be Trent Reznor... but that "evil blues" crap was getting tiiiiii-iiired. NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:32:55 -0400 From: Horror Businessman Subject: tabs to the guy who was talking about the london dungeon intro...you're right. it isn't 3-8-3-8 but 0-5-3-0-5-3 on the E. also, i noticed for SHE it is listed as A D C G A, but when you play it, it sounds a little off. try playing A D A G A, i think that sounds much better. if anyone else has any corrections, post em so everyone can be happy. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:48:58 -0500 (EST) From: ww982@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #237 ok, this is for the bible. this is the third message i've sent since i've been reading. maybe this one will actually get fucking posted. 1. i hope the misfits sign to geffen. so fucking what? i love the misfits, but i think we all know they'll last about as long as the new monkees did if they keep up the cheesy dungeons & dragons lyrics, the white trash/white snake/great white t-shirts, the heavy metal guitar... there was a reason why kryst the conquerer (oooh, scary) didn't last. it sucked. it blew. and most of all, it was boring. 2. jerry, doyle, michael, CHUD: do a fucking video. write some damn good songs. make me look stupid and blow my fucking socks off. make a horror video. put 45 songs on your album. record it on a radio shack jam box in the corner of you basement. sell it in a paper bag with duct tape on it. 3. the SAMHAIN box-set... which will be out sometime around 2001. well, this will be put together my the immaculate danzig, so be prepared to be ripped- off. remember the limited edition "how the gods kill?" one video on the tape, one flash of nudity, and a shitty cd cover. the only thing worth a damn was the box. those of you who bitch a moan about the misfits box set (a pin, 4 CD's of 7 0r 8 CD's worth of material, art by fucking Dave Mckean of Sandman, all the lyrics... IN A FUCKING COFFIN!!!), wait till you see what kind of overpriced shit glennyboy gives you. probably two CD's, a sticker, a silicone jelly in the ass and a big FUCK YOU for $100. yeah, and each CD will be about as long as Black Aria. 4. the new danzig: can you say, trent reznor? face it, "deep" was not only badly produced, the lyrics sucked. and that's where we're heading, folks. into the new year of danzig: DANZIG V "I WISH I WAS STILL ANGRY ENOUGH TO WRITE GOOD SONGS". 5. i have video tape of wes and laura m. in a no-holds-barred mud fight. at the end of the tape is a shitty version of braineater. send $200. 6. seriously, i have the psychomania CD, which I am willing to copy and mail out to anyone who wants a piece of this black market shit. so, is it against the law to make copies of black market CD's that rip you off? send your offers to WW982@wcu.edu. also, if you just want to know what's on the CD, you can ask... though i think it's on mark's page. 7. people... PLEASE INDENT OR LEAVE SPACES between your paragraphs! billy vile ww982@wcu.edu "here's my stupid punk rock quote" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:41:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matt From MI" Subject: Re: Last Ish Allo everyone.. I don't have anything particularly interesting or insightful to have today, but I'm sure I'll come up with something as I'm writing this message. :) To that kid that told me to fuck off because I consider myself a "real fan". I find it incredibly rediculous that you'd say that all people, especially punks, start bands to make money. Making a bunch of "Dumb punks" happy is usually a lot of what people in bands have in the forefront of their minds. You say no one can do it? Ian does it with Fugazi, giving free shows, and he's still very sucessful. I've never asked any band to take it to the extreme that ian does, because I don['t think there's anything wrong with making money, but saying that you don't care about the "Dumb Punks" who supported you through all the bad times by buying your albums, going to your shows, when the rest of the world could have given a shit.. well it's going to be a nice reward to have to fight your way through the football team to get up to the front of the arena just to see the guys you came to see, right before catching a jock-fist to the back of the head and being knocked unconscious. No one can convince me that everyone on this bible who says it's A-OK by them that the Fits sign to a big label aren't going to be bitching in a couple of months when they see John Sencio saying.. "A wacky punk-rock band formerly lead by Glenn Danzig, now on their world tour with Green Day! Here's Mars Attack, the new one from The Misfits!" That makes my skin crawl.. But alas, it saddens me, as I'm sure it saddens others to think that the fiends are no longer at the forefront of the Misfits' minds, and here people that chastised Glenn for ripping off the fans would go and do the same thing. I'd say that I'd stick with the band through thick and thin, but I'm gettting more and more frightened that I'm going to have to be telling people "Oh yeah, I like the OLD Misfits.. But the new Misfits, they could care less about the fans these days.. " etc, etc. I hope this isn't considered antagonistic, but would someone please explain to me what Justin Demming is talking about with the buying 30 minute CD's? I'm truly at a loss. In unrelated news, I'm not sure if this has already been posted here, but a friend of mine told me Dischord 100 was going to be a previously unreleased Teen Idles EP. How exciting. So, tommorow begins the month of Halloween.. everyone all excited? :) Hey Bobby - all the little Goth kiddies think I'm just the SHIT now because I'm sportin my Undead shirt with a chick tied up on it. "Oooh! Bondage! Cool! Hey Matt, who are the Undead? A Punk band? EEEW! I hate punk!" Some people's kids. Oh well, enough of my inane babbling. Seeya next bible. Matt Voodoo Child sXer and Fiend at Large Check out my page! www.grfn.org/~gravis - "I'm Crazy, and I'm hurt" -Black Flag - "You stand to the side, Rebirth of HARDCORE PRIDE!" -Gorilla Biscuits - "Fuckin' people that I see, always fucking starin' at me" -The Undead - "I go out looking for the elusive bikini spider.." -The Migraines - "Oi! Oi! Oi! Chosen few, this is what we think of you.." -The Business - "Out of step with the world!" -Minor Threat - "I don't need to waste my time, I don't need more shit." -S.O.A. This large sig will be readjusted with new quotes periodically for your reading pleasure. ------------------------------ From: JOSEPH THEUERKAUF Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 01:10:22 -400 Subject: Re: SMILING VILLAINS update... ok, fiends, remember that WAY-COOL offer i posted in the issue last week? well, i got such a huge response to it that i realized there would be no way i could afford to continue to offer one of the BEST 'fits rip-off bands to go for free. i am not out for profit, i just want to cut my costs a little. here's the deal: for anymessages i receive after MIDNIGHT on Oct. 2, i'll send you a copy of the tape for $1.00. this will help me pay a lot of the postage necessary to get these out, so i'd appreciate it. still want a copy? i'd love to hear it: joe theuerkauf 129 Alten NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-3703 -{thanx to all those who requested early.}- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 01:24:56 -0400 (EDT) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Let's hear what you got! Last Bible, SHAWN MOUNGER (DANZIG8525@aol.com) wrote: >>ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING DEAF?????? I just bought a live >>recording bootleg of the new lineup on tour and man Micheal >>Graves butchers from song one. >>Now listen i have made a tape with my voice dubbed over >>Glenn's on a bunch of songs >> SO TO ALL YOU FIENDS IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAR SOME >>REAL SHIT JUST LISTEN TO............... Here's an idea. How about making the tape available to any of us fiends (or is that, fuckin' idiots) who want to hear some "real shit." If you're as good as you say, then there should be no problem, right Shawn? Who knows, if the Misfits wont take you, maybe Devilock will. The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ Subject: Do you remember rock'n'roll radio? From: Ken D Ward Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 07:15:16 EDT >From: thl19@pacbell.net >the bassline to London Dungeon is wrong. ON the tabs it is posted as >E:--8-3-8-3---:, but I played along to it and it sounds totally off key The proper changes are E A G F# during the main guitar riff and verses. During the chorus the changes are F E F E F G Even though I have not touched a guitar for ten months (New Years, Denver, 3 hours of 'Fits songs with the band Ben Hogan) I learned these songs when I was 9, which was a decade ago, and they have been tried and tested and if someone would just e-mail the tab from the net, I will repair it (I lost my InterNet service, but I hear my site is still there!) >From: Justin Deming >The fact is, after I made my mistake of a post, I only got 1, count it, >1 flame for it in the following Bible. However, in the next one after >that, the flood gates had opened. *gasp* It seems even these oh so >punk fans can be influenced and even, what heresy this must be, join a >BANDWAGON! Good point, but I don't think everyone was jumping a bandwagon. You do have a valid point that I was the only one to comment on your Anti- Semitic remarks the next issue, but I don't think anyone was posting because they saw mine. I got two e-mails from people who were upset by the time I even got to check my e-mail to get that Bible! But, anyway, before this turns into another debate, I'll quit and stick on the subject of... what was that band called again? >admit it, but the music by the Misfits is incredibly CATCHY! You only >need to hear a Misfits song once and you'll be humming, tapping, and/or >singing along. Weren't you when you first heard a Misfits song??? No, actually this is pretty funny. I was sitting there going, "This is the worst version of All Hell I have ever heard!" (I found out about The Misfits from finding out that Samhain and The Misfits had the same singer. This was before Danzig, and before Garage Days, so Glenn was not a household name at the time, I just happened to hear someone say it was the same guy, and it was..) There's also the funny story about the Danzig LP. By '88 I still hadn't figured out what that guys name was (Glenn) and I walked into a mall chain store and saw this Danzig cassette. I just thought they were ripping off Samhain's skull! Imagine my surprise... Well, I saw Danzig in Jan '89 and Samhain back in '86, so I guess I really need to see the new 'Fits. Also, Bobby, I am getting sick of waiting! I have not seen The Undead. I have however been listening to you since I was NINE...one more month and I will have a breakdown and actually go and rob that bank! `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` USA HUB for TDP Net true freedom of speech! 58:1000/0.0 misfits_punk_planet_bbs@juno.com Home of The Legend of the Chrimson Ghost add-on for Legend of the Red Dragon v3.55! ______Candy apples and razor blades...I remember Halloween_________ (501) 772-1832 Misfit's Punk Planet BBS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 08:54:56 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST the 9:30 club show on november 1 is off! i'm drying tears from my keyboard as i'm writing this. ADAM WEST is still playing a gig on friday nov. 1 at ASYLUM IN EXILE down the street from the 9:30 club. it's small, but it'll be a good halloween show, dig? i hope some of you guys in the DC area come out to see us! Last Bastard of Rock wrote: "To the guy in Adam West; Did you know that there is a Canadian Band called Adam West, and they've been around for at least 7 years as far as I know, you ripped em' off man. (just kidding)" well, first of all, we (ADAM WEST USA) have an agreement with adam west canucksville, which we ironed out 2 years ago. i get mail all the time from canadians saying my band should go up there and "kick those pussies' asses!" i'm a live and let live kinda guy and until either of us get major, it's no problem. case closed. :) -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net:80/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) From: ADAMN#15 Subject: boots If anyone out there has a CD boot that I think is called "Vampira" and would like to sell it or make a copy on a tape for me, please let me know. Laters..... ADAMN#15 (areygers@nexus.chapman.edu) "Woman, my ought-six." Al Bundy "I don't have your ought-six...I gave it to the mailman." Peg Bundy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:02:55 -0500 From: "Barry E. Beitz" Subject: Meatmen & the Damned & The Misfits Well if you'll remember a while back I said that on the Meatmen Homepage it said they might tour w/ the Misfits. Obviously that hasn't happened. Well, now on The Meatmen Page it says they MIGHT be touring w/ The Damned and The Misfits in January!! Now THAT would be COOL!! Any info Mark? Also the band opening for The Misfits on those dates you listed in recent issues of the MB is Blanks 77 (with an "s"). They're a really cool punk/pogo/oi! band so check 'em out. And Mark, tell those damn guys to get their butts to San Antonio, TX!! There's a lot of Fiends down here who've never seen 'em live (including ME!). Later, Jon ------------------------------ From: "Reagan, Patrick R" Subject: stuff Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:59:52 -0400 () hey, if anyone out there has any pictures of danzig at his recent shows, comic book convention in la, or the south street signing, i would be willing to pay or trade for reprints. Also, i'm looking for any signed verotik comix, GOTH #2 and Satanika X. About the 'fits signing to geffen: i dont think that this is bad, because anyone who is a fan of the wu-tang clan knows that the GZA, aka the genius, is on geffen, and he's still bangin'. The misfits will still have the same sound as they do now, but who wants to hear michale graves playing the part of danzig, or 40 year old men jumpin around w/out shirts....i sure as hell dont. pat lookin forward to blackacidevil..... -- Reagan, Patrick R reaganpr@jmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 21:07:18 -0400 From: monk Subject: cool screen saver Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:15:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Last Bastard of Rock To the guy in Adam West; Did you know that there is a Canadian Band called Adam West, and they've been around for at least 7 years as far as I know, you ripped em' off man. (just kidding) American/Canadian copyright laws suck, for example 102.1 the edge in Toronto and the American fucks 103.3 EDGE in Buffalo, what cock suckers! Does anyone have any cool screen savers? If you do mail me! Hey L.B.O.R. The best screen saver to get is the HR Giger screensaver by CYBERDREAMS. HR Giger is the swiss artist responsible for Aliens and Species. The screensaver is full of skulls, monsters, etc. I'm sure you will enjoy. You can get this at your local comic book store( they will probably have to order it). Or try contacting cyberdreams at : CYBERDREAMS 23586 Calabasas Rd Suite 102 Calabasas CA 91302 If you have any other questions feel free to e-mail me. - MONK - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:48:26 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: The next set... Hello fiends... First off i would like to thank D.Evil and Warhammer for agreeing with me, cause it's just stupid to write off a band because they get signed by a major label or popular. We are all here for a reason and if you can't handle the changes that the band has gone through then maybe you need a new band to listen too. Plus i'm very sorry to hear that Wes left, i always laughed at his weird posts. But shit happens. New Trivia Questions: oh, little update only one person got all the questions from Monday right so far and no one has gotten the 2 extra points for Giger's nickname, which was printed in Famous Monsters of Filmland close to 20 years ago. 1) In the movie Jaws 1, how many people were eaten by the shark - not including the dog( 2 extra points for the dog's name.)? 2) What movie did the Misfits borrow the creature from for the cover of Walk Among Us? 3) What Vincent Price movies did Hazel Court appear in? 4) Name three famous horror actors that have played the role of the Frankenstein monster and which Frankenstein movies were they in? (2 extra points if you give me the years the movies came out.) 5) There is a Misfits song that has been talked to death about on the bible, it was also a horror movie, though the actor and actress were not the usual horror acting types. Hint: she is a very famous actress, and he was known for playing a war surgeon on a very popular 1970's tv series. What is the name of the song/movie? well you know the deal, send your answers to (tes777@bridge.net), you have till Sunday at 10PM for this weeks questions. Monday i will give the answers for this weeks questions, who has what points, and the next set of questions. Good luck to all. Oh one thing before i go, to Shawn Mounger, let me get this straight you say Michale Graves voice sucks based upon the fact you listened to it on a bootleg from one of the shows? That is funny. being that you can't hear his voice that well because the music is louder than he sings. which many people have pointed out, even Bobby Steele. but you judged him on how he sings and what he is. What is even more amusing is you rip on Michale for his voice and you dubbed your voice over Glenn's. Plus, you want Jerry and Doyle to listen to your tape, get rid of Michale and use you for the new lead singer? Brilliant, it is truely amazing some of the people that are subscribed to the bible, Mark is this some kind of joke? This is up there with some of Wes' posts. Next questions will be posted on Friday Oct. 4, plus is you get Encore on your cable, this week they are playing several Vincent Price movies. Plus keep sending in your t-shirt orders to Dave Naked. Later to all the fiendies!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 11:19:13 +0000 From: Julian Baldry Subject: Various stuff I can't really see what the problem is with the Misfits signing to Geffen. These days it's often major labels that put out the more obscure acts as they are the ones that can finance the flops from the sales of their bigger artists. The times where majors dictated to bands what they could and couldn't do are long gone. Two of the (arguably) most important and significant 'alternative' type albums of the last 10 years were released on Geffen. 'Appetite for Destruction' and 'Nevermind' contained swearing, explicit references to sex and drugs and caused controversy over their release.... both sold by the bucket load. On the other hand you also get to see what's really what... I mean, some people maintain that people only buy what is force fed to them via MTV etc. If that's the case then how come The Spin Doctors have now been dropped after selling around 3.5 million LESS copies of their new album than their last? At the end of the day people buy what they and, to some extent, their social group like to listen to. If only the people on this list buy the Misfits Geffen released product then you can rest assured that their subsequent albums will come out through 'Dropped Like A Hot Potato Records Inc.' Those who believe the reunion to be nothing more than a money making scam can also breathe easy in the knowledge that one multi-million selling album should see Jerry & Doyle hang up their devilocks for good... Maybe they're going to do a Sex Pistols thing and talk up a huge cash advance and then reward Geffen with a pile of cack to release. Now that would be punk eh kids? As for the suggestion made last issue that Tommy Victor and Danzig may have had some hidden agenda together I can't see it. The story goes that Victor was invited to join Danzig for the tour approximately 1 week before the first date. Prong have experimented with industrial type sounds since the early 80's. If anything they are an upgraded, heavy version of Killing Joke, they owe little to the legacy of the Misfits or Samhain and certainly nothing to Danzig, who have always been peers of rather than an influence to Prong. To date, Victor is playing with Danzig, Ted Parsons (Prong drummer) has hooked up with Godflesh and Paul Raven (bass) has supposedly left the group after not being able to put up with Victor any longer. Despite all this, Prong is still officially an ongoing concern. Julian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:52:00 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Bloodfeast OK. I keep forgetting to post this, but here it is finally. A local record shop has a used vinyl copy of the Bloodfeast movie soundtrack. It's 15.99 + tax. Bloodfeast is on side one, another movie 'Two Thousand Maniacs'(?) is on side 2. If anyone is a serious horror fan and must have this, let me know. -Tarry ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Samhain Box and Danzig's popularity What a great way to start You don't know nothin Re: Misfits Bible, #238 misfits bible #whatever the last one was effin geffen effin geffen again The Dirt Humongousfungusamongus DANZIG 9/28/96 Earth AD gold disc for sale misfits tour dates if glenn sucks, what the fuck you doing here? Tommy Victor Baltimore 1982. wes again Re: anyone? anyone? losers... Re: Misfits Bible, #238 Danzig's Hamilton Show Re: Hand of Doom the reason Re: Last Ish Record Labels Misfits Portland OR 21 Aug 96 CD orders chat room for fiends hallowee-ee-ee-een Samhain shirts Aren't we a little slow... MARS ATTACKS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: a taste of "blackacidevil" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:52:00 -0400 Well I just got a tape of the CD sampler from the forthcoming Danzig CD (thanks Mark B!!!!) & thought some of you might be interested in a quickie review of the three tracks - "7th House" - This is way more produced & manipulated than how they are playing it live on the current tour. On the CD version Glenn's voice is so processed that if I didn't know who it was I wouldn't have recogniozed it the first time I heard it (now that I've listened to it about 10 times I can pick out the style of his singing but it's really buried down there). It is VERY industrial - not at all like NIN but more along the lines of the really harsh metal industrial stuff like Godflesh & Pitchshifter, very brutal sounding. I think a lot of people are gonna hate it. I personally think it's really cool (keep in mind what I listen to is mainly industrial) though being Danzig I'd rather listen to his voice (just because he CAN sing - I mean nobody is ever gonna go on about whata crooner Al Jourgenson is, right? The industrial genre doesn't really require vocal talents) "Hand of Doom" - more straightforward, definitely industrial style backing in the back, very staticky production, some filtering on Glenn's voice but he soundsmore recognizable here. It's surprizingly short - only about 2 minutes long (the Sabbath version goes on for quite a while) "Hint of Her Blood" - This is easily my fav of the 3, this is VERY much like "Deep" from the X-Files CD, a very slow hypnotic kinda beat, similar production to "Hand of Doom". I think the new sound is gonna alienate a lot of people. Truthfully I wouldn't mind at all if Beevis & Butthead stopped showing up at shows. Hopefully it will attract some new followers. Personally tho I think it's more important for an artist to grow and do NEW stuff - I mean if I wanted a band that would sound pretty much the same for 20 years I'd be listening to the Ramones, right? Anyway, if anybody out there has an actual CD copy of this they'd consider parting with please let me know & I'll make you a good offer! (sigh, the trials and tribulations of being a completist) On another note, I went and saw Eerie Von's band BIGHOUSE last Friday at Connections - they put on a great show and I had a wonderfuil time! Several bible members (past and present) were in attendance and I finally got to meety CG in person! Bighouse will be opening for Foghat at a place called "Mother's" in a few weeks. Meanwhile I'm working on building a web site for them so I hope to have that up and running soon. (Hopefully all the photos I took will come out well!) Also, I know I shouldn't get off-topic but I wanted to add my 2 cents on a subject that's been mentioned a few times lately. Several folks have cited Marilyn Manson as an exanple of a band that has "sold out" due to some MTYV exposure claiming their last CD wasn't as good as the first. Please keep in mind that "Smells Like Children" was *NOT* an album-length work - it was just an EP of remixes from the first album that they ended up throwing more material on. It was never considered to be an album - the band's original intent was that it was just the "Dopehat" single. So I suggest those of you yelling sellout wait until next week when their true 2nd album "ANTICHRIST SUPERSTAR" is released. It is an incredible piece that is one of the most intense and harrowing albums of the last few years and shows a helluva lot of development. Prolly will scare the pants off the bandwagon jumpers who latched on to them because they liked their Eurythmics cover...! - EVB sistinas@planetcom.com check out EVB's place at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/4543 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:13:10 -0400 From: Scott Bissett <101761.413@compuserve.com> Subject: Black Flag > From: Geoffrey King > Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #237 > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:35:00 -0400 (EDT) > > i must have missed that black flag album. for my info, which one was it? i > thought that all of the were on SST, you know, the guitar players label Well, not sound like a smart ass, but Flag originally released both the 'Damaged' album, and the 'TV Party' single through Unicorn/MCA, but there was some legal hassles and they had to withdraw them and reissue them without the Unicorn references. I believe that some copies of 'Damaged' were also issued with an "Anti-MCA" sticker on them. Hope that helps. Oh, and a quick plug if I can, Mark! I've been doing a Danzig-Misfits-Samhain zine for almost two years now. It's called 'Rebel Angel', it's currently on #18, and anyone who wants info on it can e-mail me (101761.413@compuserve.com) if they want. Cheers! Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:12:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bryan M. Gruda" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #238 What happened to the list of rules that was put out a few issues ago? I rarely look at this list anymore because of all the shit that goes on. I wish people like John B Perrin would keep negative opinions to themselves. One thing you have to understand bro is that you shouldn't talk about other bands on this list because you run the risk of offending someone else. I can't believe you compared Kiss to metallica. It just goes to show how old you really are. Anyway I could give you a lecture on how kiss and metallica are different but I won't because I'm a nice guy. So I hope you're not too offended by this message but I just wanted to let you know that you shouldn't talk about bands you know nothing about and to keep pointless opinions to yourself. Gruda ps- To x-ray is there any chance of an adult misfits site? It may sound like a stupid idea but I'm sure there are a few who would like one. That way we could avoid niave opinions and corny sightings and get on to the real things like tour dates and album info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:27:47 -0700 From: C Farrell Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #238 hey all, Just a reminder that THEORY X fanzine issue #1 is out and available for $2 postage paid. It has a killer interview with Bobby Steele and some cool reviews, interviews and features. You should buy it now. If you want you can pre order issue #2 also. It will be out in november, and will be much better quality. Bobby, did you get a copy in the mail yet? If so, what did you think of it? Also, you should all buy the UNDERMINE/ FDS split 7" for $2 ppd. c'mon, after $1.10 postage, You only pay 90 friggin' cents. I'm also looking for bands who have tapes, 7"s etc. they want reviewed in my zine. Send me a copy and I'll give you a business size ad free in my next issue. GogmaGod records also needs bands for upcoming projects. We would Like to do a CD comp and a split 7" in early '97. oh yeah. Heres my 2 cents about the geffen thing. It does and will matter if they sell out to the label. The Misfits are an institution, bottom line. Every real punk has heard the misfits at some point, and in this day and age, where all the good punk is dead or sold out. (ie. Rollins and Black Flag, Minor threat-->Fugazi, eeeww!!, sex pistols,etc.), it is imperative that the Misfits remain true to the DIY ideals. Caroline has already distributed their CDs in almost every damn store, so don't give me any of that bull about a "Wider Audience". Plain and simple. The Misfits, whether they want to or not, mean a whole hell of a lot more to punk rock, hardcore and real underground music than they might realize. By signing to Geffen records (and by the way I happened to love Guns n' Roses, and no one, with the exeption of Bobby, can call me a poser since I've been listening and been involved in the punk scene for years), the Misfits sell out their integrity. GogmaGod Records/ Theory X fanzine Rd 1 box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, NY 12592 devils are born in angels arms. Tom Undermine ------------------------------ From: x-ray Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #238 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:23:26 -0400 (EDT) > From: MR HAROLD W JAFFE > Subject: vinyl > you have a phone #? Mark, maybe you could answer this, how many > copies of collection 1 were made on vinyl, any colored vinyl? thanks. Caroline Records did not keep any accurate records of the pressings for most of the late 80's releases. It was in print for about 7 years on black vinyl only. There were no colored vinyl copies made. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 14:39:35 +0600 From: JOHN KENDRICK Subject: Response to Perrin Mr. Perrin, it appears that you had nothing else better to do than to send some dreadful rhetoric about Glenn. First, Glenn doesn't do steroids. I'm very much into bodybuilding and I can tell you that people on steroids are much bigger than Glenn. Your comment about "fratboys" was a bit much. I belong to a fraternity, and I can tell you that we do more than just sit on our asses. We do community work as well as raise money for foundations (e.g. diabetes). Your command of the vulgar portion of the English language is quite good. In the future, I hope to see you contribute to the bible in a positive way and to not send polemical rhetoric. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 12:05:08 -0700 From: Joe Franke Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #238 finally, someone other than me that recognizes both the genius of the misfits and the cranberries. -- Joe Franke ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:10:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel J. Jakel" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #238 To Julian Baldry about the whole Prong/Misfits business... I am pretty sure that Prong was influenced by the Misfits and/or Samhain because I have a live video (it came free with Cleansing) with Prong opening for Pantera in 1994 and Victor shouts out "I'm fuckin happy to say that I'm playing in a show with the king of punk, fuckin Danzig!" so I guess Danzig was in the house that night, I dunno if they played cuz the Prong set is all thats on there. Prong's first album, Force Fed, is very fast and has remiscence of Walk Among Us type sound. I own every damn Prong album, and they have 3 VERY good ones, and 2 blah albums, one being their recent release, Rude Awakening. I could talk about Prong all night, but this is the Misfits Bible....so woohoo! to all, and to all a good night. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 15:38:39 -0500 From: fennellw@bc.edu Subject: comic book >From: x-ray >Subject: Re: this >Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:29:19 -0400 (EDT) >I'm baffled here... if you're referring to Samhain, what comic book >were they in? I think it's gwar ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:03:13 +1100 Subject: Warhammer's comin down on you Well hell-o all I just had to say a few things: Perrin-Shut the hell up before the true Danzig fiends hunt you down and break that wonderful illusory world you live in which you think you are God. However I will say the the Misfits will always kick ass so On that point you were very correct but please for the descency of the Bible don't use that F--- word in reference top Glenn Danzig cause as I have said before without Glenn there never would have been a Misfits Brian Cox-I hope the Misfits pick up many new fans if not too bad but don't we all want the Misfits to enjoy the life that loser posers like Green Day and Rancid had handed to them by MTV if any band deserves it is it not the Misfits. Tammy- you don't have to thank me for agreeing with you when you say something that is true I am more then Happy too to agree with words of wisdom One more thing can anyone give Info to me on where to find the Bootleg of Misfits w/ graves Maybe send me a copy I will pay for it any info just Email me Also any one interested in visiting my homepage the internet address is: www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/3734 it is just a tiny thing right now that features my review of Mercyful Fate's "Into the Unkown" as well as King Diamond's "The Graveyard" and some neat links Well that is all for now Stay Hungry Fiendishly yours The Warhammer "And I don't want ya and I don't need ya"-Marilyn Manson-"Beautiful People" ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:20:43 -0400 Subject: hum? why is it such a bad thing for the misfits to sign to geffen? is it their fault if people hear them and like them? i personaly don't judge a band by who or how many people listen to them but i guess if your audience includes certain people and excedes a certain number you can't qualify as a "good" band and certainly not a "punk" band. (oh, no! did i just use "punk" in vein?!) i guess i just fail to see the conection between a band's talent and their audience. (other than if they're good they'll probably have a large one.) i also don't see why the misfits should give a shit what the fiends think. it's their music they're making it because that's what they love to do. if they did what WE wanted them to do then wouldn't they be "sell outs"? we listen because WE like what they do. re: glenn producing- glenn has at least co-produced the last two danzig albums, rubin the the first two, so to whoever mentioned it last issue...he is doing his own production now like he used to. john perrin: your reasoning seems... well... fucked. D.EVIL ------------------------------ From: Quietus Subject: Have you been there???? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:40:26 -0000 I have seen the "new" misfits live......It was the best show I have ever seen. Michael is far better than the balding fat overrated Glenn (Anzalone) Danzig. The stage presence put up by the "new" fits was amazing. For any of you who have no idea what a real show is about just check out the "new" fits. Graves sings far better then the money grubbing danzig, his actions to the fans outweigh in appreciation anything danzig could ever do. The misfits still appreciate their fans, and put on the the coolest show, for them. There is nothing bad to say, so for all of you idiots who continue to badmouth the "new" misfits..........See you in the pit.............. Quietus XXX1313 Misfits on Halloween at the Troc. in philly...It dosen't get better than that........ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:55:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: Samhain Box and Danzig's popularity hey all, Just a couple of responses to two posts from the last issue first the Samhain box is to consist of two cd's, a live video, and a booklet in which Eerie Von put most of the photos together. One of the cd's is live and the other cd is unreleased material. Secondly to John Perrin: Danzig started to gain popularity before Mother 93. How the Gods Kill placed at # 24 on Billboard the week it came out. This of course was way before Beavis and Butthead and before Thrall-Demonsweatlive. Also before Dirty Black Summer was played on Headbangers Ball, how many times did you see a Danzig vid? I can only remember Twist of Cain one time and Killer Wolf one time. People finally took notice that Danzig kicked ass and went out and bought HTGK. Later, Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:10:47 -0400 From: Chris White Subject: What a great way to start john perrin, what the fuck. Do you have a clue what you are saying? 1. Danzig is one of the greatest musicians of our day. Origianly he was the Misfits. As for what they are now, we will see when they put out an album that wasn't written by Glenn. 2. Metallica still kicks ass in concert. Even their new stuff sounds good in concert. Van Halen wannabes? Huh? Sure they sold out, but that doesn't mean that their old stuff sucks now. 3. Pits are the heart of many concerts, and I feel that it is a major part of Misfits concerts. Why else would Michael Graves(I thought he was pretty damn good) have told everybody at the show I went to have told everyone to make the world's biggest mosh pits? I agree that people in the pit should avoid running into non-moshers as best they can, but if you do get hit, that is part of being near the pit. If you don't like it, stay back a little, or go to a cranberries show. Wait, some people think that you should mosh to the cranberries, go to a floyd show or somehthing. By the way, what does someone keep mentioning the Wu-Tang Clan? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:01:06 -0500 From: 138 Subject: You don't know nothin Some guy said something about Glenn Danzig sucking and being a loser and all this stuff on the last Bible.Hey moron, GLENN DANZIG IS THE MISFITS. He wrote all the songs. Let me put this in "simple" terms for you "Einstein", NO GLENN = NO MISFITS. Oh yeah, I was wondering how you could get in that special club for REEEEEEEEEEALLLLLLLLLLLLLLY smart people like yourself. Maybe you could post the phone number of the place in the next Bible. Oh, sorry, the phone is the thing that you put up to your ear and listen to other people talk. Hey, wait a minute. You can even talk back! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:13:49 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #238 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Just a reminder to the Canadian Punx . . . TIMES SQUARE (that's my NEW band) will be paying this Saturday, October 5th; at JAILHOUSE ROCK, 30 MONT ROYAL (at ST. LAURENT BLVD) in Montreal. DRIVE ! ! ! RE: my address; POST MORTEM RECORDS, P.O. BOX 358, NEW MILFORD, NJ 07646 U S A re: PHONE #'s . . . just email me. I can't afford to return calls, and I'm hardly ever at Post Mortem these days. For obvious reasons I can't give out my home phone # - Adam7 would be calling, constantly, trying to make a date with me. The guy's obsessed ! TIMES SQUARE will also be at the LUNA LOUNGE, 171 LUDLOW ST, N Y C; on Wednesday Oct 9th at 10pm. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 23:10:49 -0500 (EST) From: reaganpr@jmu.edu Subject: misfits bible #whatever the last one was hello everyone, just a few things to say... first, why do people think that glenn sux? who asked jerry only to form a band? who produced all the albums that were released on plan 9 records? who wrote all the songs? whose record label was plan 9? the list goes on and on.. As for me, i think that jerry and all the other guys in the band don't "care about the fans" and aren't doing this "for the fans". I've heard this same bullshit over and over again. All jerry wants to do is make money off of something that he can cash in on...the Misfits. If there was really a concern for the fans, why would jerry have to justify what he was doing. Sure jerry was fighting GLENN in court for 8-10 years, but was it for the fans or was it because he was tired of making different pieces of metal all day long and playing in a shitty band? You decide. As for the misfits comix...who had a comic book company first and whose comic book co. is continually sold out of certain issues? Glenn or Jerry? MY!....what an uncanny coincidence that earth ad will be re-released on oct. 29th. Wait a minute....that's two days before BLACKACIDEVIL will be released! I just realized that..hmmmm....jerry really DOES care about his fans! He is so nice as to re-release an album that is already on the box set and cassette..and has always been available to the fans. Wow..maybe i'll buy that album since i dont have the SILVER CD...wait a minute still...glenn's album will have all new songs on it that i haven't heard 1000 times... that's about it..as for those crybabies that are complaining about the pit..DON'T GO TO THE SHOWS!!! It seems as though all you kids who say that you are there "to watch the band and not rub up against other men" have to use an excuse as to why you aren't in the pit. "oh, i'm not gay.." or "i like to watch the band and not get all sweaty". and the ever-popular "i'm 6'3" and 275lbs so i've already proven my masculinity". Well, I'm 5'7" and 120 lbs and i have never cried about that shit. i was there on haloween 1995 to see the misfits at one of their feeble performances. Guess what? I was up there in the pit and i got hurt, but i'm no more of a man nor have i ever complained about the situation. I bet if anyone had some serious complaints of moshing at Misfits concerts, Jerry would disallow it. On the other hand, Glenn would give a hearty fuck-you to the whiners. Glenn don't care about what people say or think..he's proven this many times with his music and comix etc...so think twice about what Jerry is interested in.... Well that's about it . Some closing notes..to all you guys who think that Michael sux...keep hope alive!! i heard him last halloween and he was trying to act like glenn. it seems that whatever glenn does is successful..give credit to jerry for realizing this. In closing i would like to admit that Michale was right that CG is in fact a dick. Someone musta thought that or CG would still have a job at Proedge. I'm glad that he's off the list (i'm sure everyone who's reading this wishes that i will unsubscribe) because he was always ripping on me and he never had a sense of humor pat "give me a girl, i don't care who. Cause drink, fight, and fuck is what i'm gonna do" -GG allin "New order..No order..disorder.." -Reagan Youth ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:23:11 +0200 Subject: effin geffen >and expanded their audience but still,why do you need a big company >like Money stupid...(i don't mean to call names...) everyone needs it. why make shit when you can make money? blah blah blah. GRRREG ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:43:08 +0200 Subject: effin geffen again >"here's my stupid punk rock quote" i like that. :) >To that kid that told me to fuck off because I consider myself a "real >fan". I find it incredibly rediculous that you'd say that all people, >especially punks, start bands to make money. Making a bunch of "Dumb >punks" happy is usually a lot of what people in bands have in the >forefront of their minds. You say no one can do it? Ian does it with look...all i'm saying is that the Misfits shouldn't have to live in poverty for YOU. If someone can devote everything to just the fans...he's prolly already rich, or stupid. >of months when they see John Sencio saying.. >"A wacky punk-rock band formerly lead by Glenn Danzig, now on their >world tour with Green Day! Here's Mars Attack, the new one from The >Misfits!" That makes my skin crawl.. But alas, it saddens me, as I'm >sure it Does anyone else think this is silly?! c'mon! you are way out of line. MTV air time is one thing(nothing wrong w/this), but the Misfits won't turn into Greenday... ...oh well... -GRRRReg- -"We all want our time in hell"- -http://homepage.interaccess.com/~ols- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 00:41:16 -0400 From: Nick Subject: The Dirt Feinds, Lately, there has been alot of discussion about Geffen, major labels, and selling out--so I thought I would put my voice into the mix. Lets just look at the facts--are the Misfits a band that is desperately trying to impress a label, so they can move out of their Volkswagon van and actually make enough cash so the can pay rent in a permanent place? Of course that was rhetorical--but just to make it clear--I don't think that the Misfits are that desperate that they would compromise their musical integrity to satisfy a mainstream record company. If they sign a contract--I think they would be savy enough to negotiate their own terms into the deal. Remember, Jerry and Doyle are not kids anymore--they've been through this before, and hopefully learned from it. Lets give them a little credit and see and hear the product before we condemn them as sell outs (by the way I'd love to see a professionaly produced Misfits video on MTV). And if the new stuff ends up sounding like something the Brady Bunch would put out, then we can all kill ourselves in the name of the Crimson Ghost and forever listen to Glenn sing Static Age in AngelFuck heaven. And by the way, all those Michale bashers should check out the Stone Pony Vid--He sounds great, and works the crowd like a pro. Dirt ------------------------------ Subject: Humongousfungusamongus From: Ken D Ward Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 23:24:40 EDT >From: Horror Businessman > i noticed for SHE it is >listed as A D C G A, but when you play it, it sounds a little off. try >playing A D A G A, i think that sounds much better I'm not sure if it sounds better or not, but it's not She. She IS A D C G A! If someone would PLEASE e-mail me a copy of the tab listed on the Web Page, I will correct all of the mistakes. >From: ww982@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU >3. the SAMHAIN box-set... which will be out sometime around 2001. well, >kind of overpriced shit glennyboy gives you. probably two CD's, a >a silicone jelly in the ass and a big FUCK YOU for $100. yeah, and each >will be about as long as Black Aria. Actually that last is a good point. I can fit both LP's, Unholy Passion, and the Final Descent/ Unholy Passion remix + that screaming thing (AKA Misery Tomb), the Unknown Show from '84, the Jockey Club show from '84, and another full set from '85 on two 90 minute tapes, and still have a LARGE portion left on that last side. If Glenn released the entire recorded mass of Samhain, we're looking at about 180 minutes max if he uses every song twice, that's 3 CD's. Don't get me wrong, I would buy a Samhain box even before I buy the Coffin set, which I still can't find! Just call me a dumb consumer. But it makes me wonder...what does Uncle Glenny have stored in that closet? From: "Matt From MI" >I hope this isn't considered antagonistic, but would someone please >explain to me what Justin Demming is talking about with the buying 30 >minute CD's? I'm truly at a loss. Do you own any Misfit's albums? Let's see, hmmm... I no longer have any of my Misfit's stuff, but Earth A.D./Wolfsblood/Die Die My Darling CD was under 19 minutes, Walk Among Us was 27 I think, and all of those other lttle things Uncle Glenny released were under 30 minutes as well. The Misfits are only defeated by Black Flag for least-bang-for-the-buck. Although the Everything Went Black is a very good deal, not to mention we get more Flag with Keith Morris. (501) 772-1832 Misfit's Punk Planet BBS, USA HUB for TDP Net true freedom of speech! 58:1000/0.0 misfits_punk_planet_bbs@juno.com, home of The Legend of the Chrimson Ghost add-on for Legend of the Red Dragon v3.55! ______Candy apples and razor blades...I remember Halloween_________ (501) 772-1832 Misfit's Punk Planet BBS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:17:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BANE Subject: DANZIG 9/28/96 Danzig is definitely back, despite what many say about the new line-up and style, etc. Glenn came out shortly before the Black Aria music ended, wearing a short-sleaved rubber shirt (you know what colour), which buttoned in front (he later unbuttoned it so it hung open like a jacket, then removed it still later). Joey made brief appearances during Sepultura's and Ozzy's sets and Tommy Victor was playing up to the crowd a lot, and really seemed to enjoy himself, as did Lazie, who jumped around a lot. (at one point he leapt over a black crate that was positioned in the centre of the stage, something I wouldn't picture Eerie or John doing) THE SET: MOTHER SACRIFICE UNTIL YOU CALL ON THE DARK HER BLACK WINGS IT'S COMING DOWN DEEP DIRTY BLACK SUMMER 7th HOUSE TWIST OF CAIN LONG WAY BACK FROM HELL I agree with Liz that the opening for "Sacrifice" sounds a lot like "Closer" by NIN, but fans should not worry. The way the song is done (at least live), I think it fits perfectly with the Danzig style (and as Liz said, when the "heavy" part kicks in, there is no doubt it's Danzig). For many people, "7th House" was the highlight of the show; a few of my friends who are only casual fans of Danzig came running up to me at the end of the set saying "that song was amazing!". I have to say, in all honesty, I don't think there is ANYONE who has listened to Danzig more than I have (yes, even EVB, who listens to lots of other stuff too...which I don't) and don't get me wrong, I think the so-called bluesy-metal "old" Danzig is the best music on earth. Lucifuge is without doubt THE album for me. **BUT** despite all this, when I look back at the show, the highlights for me were "7th House" , "Sacrifice" and "Deep" **ALL 3 ARE NEW SONGS** (okay, "Deep" has been out for a little while, but remember that the other material to be included on Danzig 5 was recorded at the same time as it was) So, for fans who are worried about a new style, DON'T. The new songs are still "Danzig", at least when played live. Also, to those who pointed out that the new sampler sounds much different, don't forget that it includes only 3 songs out of probably 10 or 12 that will be on the album, and Glenn seems to arrange his music very specifically, so he (most likely) included on the sampler songs that all shared a distinctive theme or feel. (BTW, does either of you guys object to making me a copy of that sampler??? ...for which you would be financially compensated, of course) finally, there were stickers given out at the show with Martin Emond's drawing of Glenn as the Samhain/Danzig skull, with "HALLOWEEN 1996" at the botton and the original Danzig logo at the top. (BTW, that sticker is also free inside the current issue [#64??] of WIZARD- THE GUIDE TO COMICS) There were also small cards with the same picture, but with "5 BLACKACIDEVIL" at the bottom, and on the back "IN STORES NOVEMBER 6, 1996" that's it. -BANE "oh yeah, meng...chico...take...a look...at de bad guy!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 00:03:20 -0400 From: Jason Appleby Subject: Earth AD gold disc for sale hey, I've got an Earth AD Gold disc for sale, the disc and cover are both practically new, I'm asking $75 or the best offer, email me if you're interested. thanks, Jay -- jay@interlog.com ^Jay^ on Undernet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Megan E Herron Subject: misfits tour dates this is my first time contributing to the misfits bible, or any computer type stuff for that matter. anyways a couple issues ago there were some dates for Misfits shows in October and November. Could you PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE print the dates and and venues again!!!!! I would be eternally grateful. I was lucky enough to have seen the Misfits when they played Norfolk,VA. in august I believe. I also had the unbelievably good fortune to meet the Misfits backstage before the show. I saw Jerry pasting down his devilock, I thought I had died and gone to heaven! they were the NICEST people "famous" or otherwise that I have ever met.I don't think signing to Geffen will change the boys attitudes towards the fans one bit! Well i dig the 'bible a hellified lot so keep up the good work and please post the dates again! xoxoxo, Vampira DeVille ------------------------------ Date: 3 OCT 96 08:26:04 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: if glenn sucks, what the fuck you doing here? John B Perrin "and glenn danzig can just >go fuck himself because he is a pompus little bastard, he doesnt know how >to sing," huh? if thats the case, why do you like the Misfits, he sang on every single recording they ever did, and all the sudden he cant sing? I dont understand your logic? Glenn doesnt want to the Misfits. Its his choice. Why fault him for it? He has his own thing he wants to do. And if he was the talentless dork you say he is, why the hell do we talk about his stuff 3 times a week? >then he goes on " but wouldnt even mosh at a fucking NIN concert in West > >Virginia, and he thinks he is a fucked up motherfucker because he can say >he moshes, but everyone just looks at him like "yeah, ok dude, i've been >to two concerts with you, and did you mosh? NO!" yea, but can you do the Milano Mosh? :) someone else said "HR Giger is the swiss artist responsible for Aliens and Species. The screensaver is full of skulls, monsters, etc." and the cover of Danzig III and the fold out poster from the DKs Frankenchrist that got them in all that hot water back in '86 and eventually led to the bands demise (well that and lack of originality by the the time Bedtime for Democracy came out). There is a website out there somehwere that has tons of Giger gifs, most of them very cool. Tess, the only issue of Famous Monsters I ever bought, was that one with the HR GIger interview, god only knows where in my house it is.. By the way, any of you 'fiends' ever ready Creepy and Eerie magazines back in the day? Way cool black and white oversize comics. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:59:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Subject: Tommy Victor I seen Danzig the other day in Hamilton and I must say they where great except for Tommy Victor.In my opinion he just can't play the some of the songs at all.They just don't sound right.He butchered Dirty Black Summer and Until You Call On The Dark just to name a few.He just can't get the high notes ( pinch harmonics I think they're called)to sound right.Although he did do a good job on It's Coming Down,that sounded fine.So I hope when they go on tour in january Glenn get's another guitar player, I don't think I could listen to this guy butcher Danzig's songs again.Just my opinion. Cheers, Jason Carter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:48:36 -0400 From: "Saint Anthony's High School" Subject: Baltimore 1982. Hey- Okay here's a question. Everyone talks about this mysterious Baltimore show, that they played 3 songs from on a radio show. Okay, so, in the Wilson Center, Washington, DC, concert from 10/22/82, Glen says to the crowd, don't bother coming up to see us next week in Baltimore, the show was cancelled. Is it possible that this is THE Baltimore 1982 show and that they rescheduled it? Respond in the bible or possible to me at MikeSeaver@Juno.com Thanx Steve PS- I don't care if they sign to Geffen as long as I get my cd's and 7"s. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Saint Anthony's High School sahslib@li.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 12:27:56 CST From: "Mikkelson, Laura Kathleen" Subject: wes again You guys are going to kill me because this is, once again, not Misfits related, but I talked to Wes the other day and found out that he is a FRAT BOY???!!! Honest to God. I just wanted to see what you guys thought ofthat. -Laura M. P.s. To that person with the mud fight video: Where did you get that footage? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 13:27:35 -0500 (EST) From: ww982@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: anyone? anyone? all right, psychomania's still here for your listening pleasure... at absolutely no cost (other than the blank tape, postage, and cover printing cost). 3 live shows on one tape... plus HORROR goodies! to mark: how does one send graphics to you so you can put them on your page? do i need to mail you a disk? i've got lots of little artistic misfit tidbits. so, is glenn really going to be in Prophecy 2 (a rumor i heard on this very bible)? i hope 2 is better than 1. it's like, they were doing a great job with it, then halfway through the movie they let some geek from an honors screenwriting class come in and finish it. i hope the pace of 2 follows the first half of 1, or a total 2/3rds of Exorcist 3, or 1/2 of the Shining. MULTIPLE MANIACS, staring Divine. Another scary movie. No Misfits reference. To BOBBY STEELE: I've got an idea. Why don't you call up Glenn, practice some of the old songs, and reform the Misfits! Of course, you'd have to call it something different. Like the Fismits or the Mice Fights or something. I mean, ROBO's still around, isn't he? Yeah, I sure Glenn would go for it. :) Seriously, keep on with what you're doing man (like you would any- way). But what's your opinion of the new Danzig stuff? I mean, I love his music... but it's starting to put me to sleep! billy vile "yaaaah yaaaaah yaaaaaah yaaaaah" rollins, 138, evilive ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:59:18 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Yuhnke