Misfits Bible, Number 241 Wednesday, October 9th 1996 Today's Topics: THE MISFITS V. THE NEWFITS (the final discussion) VILLAINS DEMO Halloween Show MB Shirts Misfits video fanzine Geffen Samhain Box BIRCH HILL GOOF UP Re: Misfits Bible, #240 yadda yadda yadda New Songs cool bass stuff fiends everywhere? murderlation Michale Graves hey misfits in high times release dates halloween misfits bible #241 Re: Misfits Bible, #240 JACKETS blackacidevil release date Re: Misfits Bible, #240 blackacidevil danzig 10-4 , fanzine stuff 7th house promo lots of stuff Re: Misfits Bible, #240 type o negative rob zombie, samhain Some more questions... Geffen Records ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: THE MISFITS V. THE NEWFITS (the final discussion) From: dave naked Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 09:56:19 EDT Well, here i sit sick as all hell, home from school...so why not write a dum post, right? (right)...the battle of the century, THE MISFITS V. THE NEWFITS (the final bout). You knew it was bound to come to this, and here it is. ROUND 1...the songs... The misfits...we all know and love these classic tunes, and if you dont...what the fuck are you doing here??? The newfits...hmmm, well...out of the three Ive heard, decent. "The Hunger" sucks major dick, "Blacklight" is good, and "The Haunting" stands up Glenn material, even tho the riff sounds way to much like "Attitude". ROUND 2...live show... The misfits....always put on a good live show, full of fun mess ups, and a great changing setlist (not to many "Static Age" songs tho : ( . A great live band. The newfits...well, they do have a long ass set, which the misfits never really had...but it lacks something, its to produced. Barely any messups, everythings a bit to laid out. (For example, listening to the 9:30 from back in 82, "Die Die My Darling", over the entire ending Jerrys screaming "Fucking Die, Fucking Die, Fucking Die...."...that would never now). The set list (altho including basicly everything) never really changes except for a few rotating songs. Good show, never the less. ROUND 5...singers Face it, altho Mikies great, Glenns just better. For looks, tho...hmmmm...i guess Glenn wins again. Michale: shiny leather pants, pretty cool gloves tho (if you can call em gloves). Glenn: what could beat the skull gloves and shirt (an on occaison boots). Mike did prefect the hair thing, something glenn could never really get right (messy lock). ROUND 5...ive ran out of stuff to compare, so...the decision ********************************************************************************************* The Newfits win....why? The misfits werent our band, they exsisted for six short years and it was over. Im sure most (okok, all) of us started liking them after "Garage Days" and/or "Mother" (or at least "Danzig I"). Guys, as much as i love em, its a dead band. Heres a new thing Jerrys got going...we can support them, we can go to shows (did you ever think youd actually see the misfits????), we can get new albums. THE RETURN OF THE MISFITS!!!! (so what if im a bit late) btw: please excuse all typos, mistakes, nonsence...as i said i am sick, and i dont feel like proofreading. dave Dave Naked davenaked@juno.com My GirlFriends Possessed MGFP@Juno.com ...what pants.. ------------------------------ From: JOSEPH THEUERKAUF Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:19:11 -400 Subject: VILLAINS DEMO okay, folks, if ya still haven't gotten word, here's the thing on the Smiling Villains demo that i'm offering: you send me (via USPS) your name and address and stuff and one (1) US dollar, and i send you a demo of three bands recorded on high quality cassette previously occupied by any band i select at random from among my collection of tapes from high school. (i was pretty stupid in high school, so the demo could be on anything from AC/DC Live to DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, but it will be there in its entirety.) if you want, i would appreciate it if you would mail me so that when i finally do get your info and then compile my list of who to send these to, i have your address to notify you. thanx tonz peeple. any questions mail me at theuejos@aquinas.edu jt ------------------------------ From: LEAH A JUSTIS Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:25:45, -0500 Subject: Halloween Show Was anyone there when the misfits played earlier this year at the Troc? After the show there was a big police presence on the street. I've been there a lot and this isn't the norm. I myself got harassed, and I heard a story about a kid getting beat up or something. Now they are playing there on Halloween, and Halloween being a fiend's favorite holiday, what do you think that security will be like for that show? My guess is that they'd beef up security after a John Tesh concert on Halloween, just because it's Halloween, so I don't know. Well, anyone who is going and wants to talk about it e-mail me, or anyone who's going and just wants to talk about anything. I'm almost positive the tickets are already on sale... Leah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 08:50:21 -0700 From: KLRWLF Subject: MB Shirts Mark, or anybody else, When are the MB shirts going to be ready?? Soon I hope!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:41:55 -0400 From: Scott Bissett <101761.413@compuserve.com> Subject: Misfits video fanzine I don't know if you guys are aware of this yet. If you are, sorry bout dat, if not, then... There's a great German video fanzine out, and there's a ton of Misfits stuff in it. It's called 'Madrezid Videofanzine Vol.II', and it features a lengthy interview with Jerry (in full make-up) from the European tour in March. There is also over 30 live tracks from that same tour, including some soundcheck performances. These were recorded for the fanzine with Jerry's permission. As well as all that, there's a lot of good clips by new German bands, an interview and performance from Tocotronic, and tons of other stuff. I got my copy from Marco, who put the whole thing together. It costs 25 DM if you're in Germany, and 30 DM outside. His address if you're interested is: Marco Frank, Sackring 49, 38118, Braunschweig, Germany. This thing is about three hours long, it's pretty damn good. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:23:30 -0500 From: Brian Cox Subject: Geffen > I (and the rest of the band ) had misgivings at first about signing with > geffen. We too were worried what the music would end up sounding like and the > rest of it but after meeting with the producers and the rest, we are assured > that we will be able to continue writing the way we want to and not want some > executive thinks we should. To be honest to continue on our own would have > become more and more difficult. We did gross a good amount of money on the > tours this summer but about 90% of it went back out the window. I won't > bother breaking it down again I did this some few issues ago and I won't > argue about money anymore. Signing with this label will enable us to put out > better quality albums , go on longer , bigger tours and be able to ... Does this mean that sighning with Geffen has already happened? About the record company assuring you that they won'y screw with the way that you sound. What else are they going to say? I can only remember Geffen not wanting to release the last Nirvana album because they didn't feel it was as marketable as Nevermind. Eventially they broke and released in the original form but do you want to have to go through this. I'm not tring to say that sighning with Geffen is a bad idea. I'm in support of it but I would just watch out. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:39:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: Samhain Box Hey all, Someone last issue wanted to know where I got the info on the Samhain box set. Well from the big man himself, Glenn. I got to meet him after a concert in April 95 and I asked him about it. He said what was to be in it, but even then wasn't sure when it would be released because of the demise of Plan 9. He said he was looking for a new label. About 7 or 8 months ago I emailed Eerie Von and asked him if he knew anything about it and he said that he's finished with his side of the project (ie doing the pictures) and that the rest was up to Glenn. I think about 5 issues ago Mark or someone posted that Glenn said the Samhain box was to be put off a while longer. Later, Ken ------------------------------ From: KRZYGEROGE@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:15:04 -0400 Subject: BIRCH HILL GOOF UP I MANAGE THE BAND WORTHLESS AND THEY WILL BE PLAYING WITH THE MISFITS ON NOV.2 AT BIRCH HILL IN JERSEY.ANYONE WHO NEEDS TICKETS E-MAIL ME AND WE CAN WORK SOMTHING OUT.IF YOU'RE GONNA GO TO THE SHOW PLEASE BUY THE TICKETS FROM ME BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE TO PAY TICKETMASTER SERVICE CHARGES MY ADDRESS IS KRZYGEROGE@AOL.COM THANX FIENDS KRAZY MIKE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:25:41 -0700 (MST) From: John B Perrin Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #240 oh and what is this i heard about JERRY and Doyle being into money? I dont think so, i have never met anyone after a show that just took the time to sign as many autographs and actually ASK every fan if they enjoyed themselves, well besides ROnny James Dio, but thats another story, so hey, to all you little shits who hate jerry and doyle, you dont know what the hell your talking about, so just dont even try talking and putting shit in this digest that isn't true. john ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:01:26 +0200 Subject: yadda yadda yadda >all been done before, for millions of punk shows for the past 20 >years, and its about as "punk rock" as smoking pot at a Dead show. If >you want to mosh and slam, go for it, just let the rest of us enjoy >the band without worrying about getting someones combat boot in the >spine. I dont need to show off to my friends how tough I am. I totally agree with this... I have nothing against people moshing and nothing against the people just watching. I, honestly, like to be up front... The only thing I hate are those arsehole jocks(or whoever) that just go for the pit. It's so stupid; they endup running in a circle by themselves cause no one wants to get hurt. Then, of course, they elbow everyone in the vicinity. NOW THAT'S PUNK ROCK!!! YEAH!! OI OI OI!! (sarcasm) >My name's THE WALKING CORPSE.(Fiends, please e-mail me to chat). hmm... interesting name, mine's ROTTED MEATHEAD. >To put my input in, I think the fits should stay true to their fans, >and okay, I've heard this... not what's this you say over here...> >Another thing, John Rotten may be somewhat off a sellout(I DON't >CARE),but they kicked ass at the Universal Amphitheatre in Los angeles. Did ahh... you don't care that Johnny Rotten has other fans besides his "TRUE FANS", and he is still cool... Butif the Misfits sign with Geffen, they suck? OH.... I GET IT!! Does anyone see the contradiction here? (hehehe) (From: llama@sprynet.com) >Punk is a philosophy... Hehe... I can see it now at high schools everywhere; PUNK 101. it's not hard folks... buy a guitar, learn the power chord, and sing about stuff that sucks... "gimme a hundred bucks and I'll play you a song" -me -greg petre ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 19:09:01 -0700 From: Todd Lancaster Subject: New Songs I love the Haunting, that song kicks my ass. The others are good too, but this one rools. Can't wait for the album. And to whoever said the new Descendents album rocked, its pretty good, but the old stuff is much better. In my opinion anyways. ToddFiend ------------------------------ From: NikChicken@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:06:31 -0400 Subject: cool bass stuff Hey, In Return of the Fly Jerry uses some cool effects on his bass. This sounds like a wah or an envelope filter or something of that nature, but I cannot be sure. Anyone know? Also, at the beginning of Death Comes Ripping, he does some wierd sounding thing that I have no clue what it is. My band spent a long time trying to figure this one out, but we couldn't so I settled on a pick slide, which I don't think it is. Anyone know about this also? C-ya Nick Chicken ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:17:02 -0400 Subject: fiends everywhere? am i the only one who thinks all these sightings of 138, the word "fiends" the phrase, "walk among us" etc... are blown out of proportion? i mean, the number 138 was around long before the misfits. i'm sure sometimes it might be a covert shout out to the misfits but i hardly think there's an underground society of "fiends" in the entertainment industry. also verotik comics are comics. graphic- certainly but let's not take them so seriously. if they were such peices of trash and trying to be "passed off as" art then why would artists like frazetta and bisley be working with them? i don't think you can dispute the fact that these men are artists. i'm not trying to be an asshole but, let's be real here... D.EVIL -punker than fuck quote here- ------------------------------ Date: 7 OCT 96 16:16:01 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: murderlation The song Hatebreeders contains this line -> "Because the next time you can't take it, Next thought murderlation" I tried looking up the word murderlation, no dictionary had anything on it. What the hell does it mean? Did Glenn just make up his own words? I assume it has to do with murder. Anyone know???? AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:05:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam P Segal Subject: Michale Graves Thanx for posting. Is the Geffen thing a done deal? Can you get them to do some colored vinyl 7" with non-CD B-sides or something? I know there's no money in it, but it's kind of a tradition with the Misfits to have rare 7"ers. --Adam ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:07:47, -0500 Subject: hey Hey Just wondering how many are coming to Philly for the Halloween show? Also, I wanted to know if anyone out there collects any of Glenn's comics? I have every one that he wrote and would like to talk to anyone else who has read them to see what they think. Mail me. ...Marino ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:53:45 -0700 From: Otto Subject: misfits in high times There is a magazine out now called HIGH TIMES:guide to punk in the '90s. It has a huge article with a kool picture of the "new" group. The article talks about how kool the misfits are and about various band members. It says stuff about Bobby Steele and something about how he smoked pot in the hospital, or something like that. It is the Nov. 255 issue. You should go get it. See, if it wasn't for me you would never know about this stuff. Personally I like a lot of different types of music. I like industrial: like KMFDM and Ministry. I like punk like misfits, NOFX, and Bad Religion. I also like Marilyn Manson but I don't know what catagory he fits into. This is the longest post I've ever put up, be proud. Brandon Otto "A boy without mischief is like a bowling ball without a liquid center" Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:23:08 -0400 (EDT) From: BANE Subject: release dates several have commented on the (near) coincidence of the upcoming releases of Danzig 5 and the EARTH A.D. reissue. This has got to be the most ridiculous example of the Glenn vs. the Misfits argument. Aside from the fact that (as Mark pointed out) NONE of the Misfits technically have any say when old material is reissued, some people are acting as if Glenn is purposely putting out Danzig 5 to "steal" some of the sales of EAD (or vice versa, with Jerry trying to compete with the new Danzig album). Not only would this be idiotic (because Glenn will receive 40% of EAD's royalties, so why would he WANT to curb its sales?) but it also assumes that they are both trying to compete with each other. (Plus the fact that about 3/4 of all Misfits, Samhain, and Danzig records have come out on or around Halloween, so it's hardly a coincidence that two more are). also, it was stated that the new release date of Danzig 5 will be Novembert 6, but that may jst be the date of the Canadian domestic release. (whereas the US-date may still be Oct. 29th; sometimes Canadian dates are a week or two later). Does anyone know for sure? And as for the "Michale Graves sucks" thread, too many people seem to be judging him without actually seeing him sing. And even if you do see him, and he sounds bad, bear in mind that not all live shows are equal; you could see them on an "off" night, or just be in a venue with crappy sound. Too many people see a band that they like only once, and then come away disappointed, saying "they suck live." BTW "Deep" kicks fucking ass. -BANE "you've got NOTHING! beg for mercy! scream my name!" ------------------------------ From: Misfit4798@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:27:28 -0400 Subject: halloween First off I want to say, that it was really cool that Michale Graves posted last issue, to help clear up some issues. Secondly, he mentioned something about a possible D.C. show, could it be true? I really hope they play D.C. again. Not to sound like an ass, but last time I posted, everyone was arguing about the MISFITS and Geffen, and I mentioned that it would probabaly be for distributive purposes only, and from what Michale said, it looks as if it would be true. Another thing, everyone is dogging Glenn and Bobby, I mean give these guys a break. A performers' music is constantly changing, especially if they've been around for almost 20 years. Personally, I don't think Glenn has any 2 albums that sound similar. Also, I may be the only person on the Bible that thinks this way, but "Kryst the Conqueror" is an awesome tape, this also shows progression of a band over time. Maybe I just like it because I used to be a Metalhead, years ago. I bought the tape 3 weeks ago from Adam Kriney, and I lost his e-mail address, so I have to thank him publicly, on the Bible. Thanks for all the extras and the photocopied stuff, e-mail me if you want to talk. Back to what I was saying, I think that the Kryst tape rules, I hope Mo decides to release the entire album one day, and if he doesn't, I'm willing to buy a copy, if he's willing to sell me one. Also, what ever happened to the singer for "Kryst..."? I found a copy of the "Shocking Return" cd in a record shop in Baltimore, and Michale is truley the right choice. Everyone keeps comparing his vocals to Glenn's vocals from the old songs, which we're all so used to hearing, and it's no wonder some people are disappointed with Mike, because He's not Glenn. Get the point HE'S NOT GLENN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glenn doesn't want anything to do with the Misfits or us(a.k.a. Fiend club members). As for the new songs Michale is untouchable!!!!!!!! And as far as I'm concerned he sounds great on all of the old ones too. Besides his awesome vocals, he has an awesome stage presence as well, and seems to be just as fan oriented, as the other guys. Well thats all for now. E-mail me if you want to chat, I have a very open mind, and to talk about the Misfits. -"Lie on the floor and let your body die,..." Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 15:43:42 -0700 From: Webster McDonald Subject: misfits bible #241 Do any of you live in Memphis or near it? And do the Misfits ever plan on coming around here? Please e-mail the answer. webb mcdonald ------------------------------ From: cybernaut@mtsi.com Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 16:14:57 -0700 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #240 I have an extra Beware and the Rest cd for sale. Only $30. Anybody intrested. Will trade for a singles collection 1977- 1983 cd in good conditon. Also have a sealed Kryst The Conqueror tape for $20 and a Autographed Kryst the Conqueror tape for $20. I have an kryst the conqueror CD autographed by Doyle for $30. I have a Danzig sealed Her Black Wings cassete single for $15. Does anybody out there have any Undead or Kryst The Conqueror bootlegs? Lief Codianni you ordered a Misfits portland CD but did not give me your e-mail adress. How did you expect me to reply or send you a CD? Mark you heard my Misfits portland tape. How wolud you rate it on a scale of one to ten? Does anybody know how much a 7" picture disc of Cough Cool / She / Return of the Fly is worth. It says there are only 777 of them? Where was The Shocking Return recorded at & the Date. Is there a discography of all known bootlegs? Why is making videos a bad thing thing. If you don't like them just don't watch them. I got rid of MTV because it was crap and they never played videos from cool bands like Alien Sex Fiend, Fields Of The Nephilim, & Sisters Of Mercy. I think the only thing that could go wrong with the Misfits signing to Geffen is that their albums might become over produced. I don't think they will sell out like The Damned, The Clash, or Siouxsie & The Banshees and go all disco & alternative psuedo goth. At least I hope not. Does the Undead still make CDs? when will new material come out? Is there an Undead web page? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:50:38 -0400 From: Horror Businessman Subject: JACKETS why arent't doyle and namely jerry wearing their kick ass leather jackets? i think they fuckin rule and add to the image, plus they are black. they are pretty scary. anyone else think that? lets demand that they wear them or we will boycot the shows. real good idea, huh? ap ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:13:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: blackacidevil release date Hey all, Ive seen some posts on here that Danzig 5 is going to be released in November. However when I was in Tower Records this past Saturday they had the release date of October 29. What gives??? Is it possible to have it released on different dates in different areas of the country? Later, Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:33:37 -0400 From: Scott Bissett <101761.413@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #240 Just a few comments if I may... > which 2 black flag albums did bill stevenson do drums for? He played on a lot more than 2! Bill was in the band for a brief spell in late 1981, when he replaced Robo, and then on a full-time basis from early 1983, when he replaced Chuck Biscuits, to early 1985. He drummed on the albums 'My War', 'Slip It In', 'In My Head', 'Loose Nut', 'Family Man', and the 'Process Of Weeding Out' EP. > the lyrics SUCK. No offence, but Jerry can't write lyrics worth crap. Hate to say this, cos I love the Misfits, and I think Jerry's a great guy and a fantastic bassist, but I think you got a point on this. The Kryst stuff was musically okay, not spectacular, but the lyrics were awful, and some of the new Misfits stuff is pretty bad lyrically. Don't get me wrong, I think Blacklight and The Haunting are two of the best Misfits songs yet, both in terms of music and lyrics, but titles like 'Talons of Steel' don't exactly fill me with confidence. Sounds like a bad 80s metal title... I second the motion to let Graves do the words! > Misfits served their fans above and beyond the call of duty. Especially Chud Agreed. This guy is totally cool. When they played in Scotland, I stole one of his drumsticks and then had the balls to ask him if he'd sign it for me! He laughed like hell, shook my hand, signed it, and he and Graves posed for pics with us. Good guys, both of them. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 15:08:52 -0700 From: David Attanasio Subject: blackacidevil Does anyone have access to blackacidevil and if so could make a copy for me? Is anyone else going to the Misfits show on halloween? E-mail to reply to either. Thanx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're in my path You're better off dead ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:55:47 -0400 Subject: danzig 10-4 , fanzine stuff The Danzig Cincy show had a minor Misfits sighting . Ozzy promised a backstage pass to whoever pulled the craziest stunt during the show , and a guy in a glo-go skull tee promptly charged the stage during Paranoid and was embraced by Ozzy. Wonder if he got the pass?! Anyway , Glenn's set was about 40 minutes and he played every Misfits tune except Demonomania and ....oh , just kidding!! From the other reviews I've seen of this tour , he played the same set he's been playing. The musicianship was really good and the energy was outstanding , but the SOUNDMAN SUCKED!! It's pretty fucking bad when the backup vocals are louder and clearer than Glenn's. Sheesh! Also , for you Angry Red fanzine subscribers , if you haven't gotten your October issue yet don't panic - cuz I haven't mailed them. I will mail them later this month at the same time the Halloween Special Editions go out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:48:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Flemming Subject: 7th house promo Well I just got my hands on the Danzig "7th House" promo, and figured I'd deposit my two pennies as well. You ever listen to something and not really care for it, but after a few more listens you decide that it rocks? Well this is how I feel about the three songs on the CD. "7th House" is pretty cool song, fast by comparison to other Danzig tunes. His voice is so buried in the mix that I think it actually hurts the song. It's certainly "industrial-ish" though. I didn't think that he would add the digital effects to a song like "Hand of Doom" but it comes across well and is a good song. I like the breaks in it. Maybe it's just because any Sabbath song is good one. "Hint of Her Blood" is basic by musical standards, but the vocals make the track. I think this is a classic Danzig tune...simple riffs and slamming vocals. It's different, the songs are so far not the same kinda thing that one would come to expect, but change isn't always a bad thing. I like it, if you listen to it with "open ears" I think it comes across rather well. There you have... BTW: The new Danzig home page address is on the CD. I check it out and it's not there yet, but if and when it happens the URL will be: http://www.hollywoodrec.com/danzig /| __ ___ ___ __ |\ ******************************| -- -^ \_/ ^- -- |****************** * morrigu@uclink.berkeley.edu \ ---_ _--- / * * & ----^\| _>_<_ |/^---- Robert Flemming * * rflemmin@ced.berkeley.edu / --- / \ --- \ * ************************************\__/| -^- |\__/************************ \ MMM / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 17:47:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: lots of stuff Mark, I realize I haven't been a subscriber for very long, but I have noticed a couple of things I believe need addressing, and I put it in here because there are certain individuals whom I believe should read this. First, I understand that you asked to keep posts short, but in the same issue there is a 6 page...short novel, really. It's not just the fact that it was so long that upsets me, but it had nothing to do with the Misfits. Why was it in here? Sure, "llama" had some great points, but he/she wrote about Pearl Jam primarily, and other completely non-related bands. There was absolutely no mention of the Misfits or even the most remotely related bands like, say, Metallica. This is the MISFITS BIBLE not a speakers corner for idealogical propaganda. My other concern is with multiple posts. Can't people say what they need to say in one post? Instead of sending a seperate response to every post from last ish. read the damn thing through, collect your thoughts and address them all at once. Well, that's all my bitching. About derogatory remarks to Glenn (or anyone alse for that matter), Mark, last issue you addressed this concern so I would like to apologize for my remark about Glenn's hairline. It wasn't meant to be derisive, it was just a lighthearted observation, but you are right in the end it would have done nothing but upset people. Don't get me wrong, I think Glenn is great, and every time I've met him he has been a joy to talk to, but all the same, I am sorry. As for my post last ish., I hope I wasn't out of line, but I would have said the same for any other of my friends. On to the lighter side of things. Would I be able to obtain a copy of "Deliver Us From Evil" and/or "Shocking Return" or any other quality recordings with some or all of the new songs from the christoter(is that spelled right?)@aol.com address you posted last issue? And lastly, I guess I'd like to say that I'm glad Michale posted last ish. and I hope he cleared all that garbage up. Now look, I've become one of those long-posting morons, full of hot air I hate so much! Oh well, sorry Mark. D.ETH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 16:41:20 -0500 (EST) From: ww982@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #240 Sorry about all those "=" and "20"'s in my last post. I have no idea how they got there... and if they're in this one too, I'm fucking sorry. Anyway, no one was probably able to read my post. Not that anyone would respond to anything I said anyway, since I wasn't flaming or going "punk is dead" or "i am a teenager who ain't scared of anything." so this time i'll talk about something you guys seem to give a damn about: PUNK IS DEAD!! Yes, and that's why it's cool. It has permeated mainstream music. Punk is now POP! That's right! Punk is popular! Oh no! I guess that means everyone has to start listening to old Cure albums to be cool! THE MISFITS HAVE A TEENY-TINY FAN BASE! Untrue! Just because there are only 700 people on the bible, that doesn't mean there are only 700 Misfits fans. Not everyone has a computer, and not every Misfits fan wears Misfit shirts. I used to know this nerdy looking red-haired kid who was the biggest Misfits fan in the world. He wore flannel shirts, glasses and was an honors student... so would you kick him out of the Pit? Probably. I'd rather hang out with him than a fucking Nazi any day. A couple of days ago, I went into Burger King (yeah, man, I eat at CORPORATE ESTABLISHMENTS). I was wearing a black jacket with a tiny Misfits patch on it. The guy behing the counter said, "So, are you a big Misfits fan?" and I said, "Yeah, give me a fucking Chicken sandwich with cheese, no lettuce, and large fries. Oh yeah, and anarchy and fuck society and ROCK!!" YES, I ATE THE FUCKING CHICKEN SANDWICH! The truth is, if it wasn't for the whining and bickering and (god forbid) HUMOR on the bible, there wouldn't be a reason to have it. We could just click on the News section in Mark's pit and spend the rest of the afternoon on the Beavis & Butthead page. JOURNAL OF FIENDS: I want to put something together... tell me what you think: A "yearbook" of fiends. A zine of pictures and quotes from Misfits fans, for fans, and maybe for the band. They'd probably like something like that. It shouldn't cost too much to produce, all I would need is for ALL OF YOU to send me fiendish photos... I've got a scanner, photoshop, pagemaker, etc. PLEASE e-mail me and tell me what you think, or if it's been done before, or how you DON'T want it done. On that note... FREE ISSUE OF SATANIKA 0 CONTEST: The male or female fiend who sends me the coolest picture of them or someone they know wearing Misfits paraphanelia, doing something HORROR related, or just being cool, wins my copy of SATANIKA #0. I'll even mail it too you. EVERYONE WHO ENTERS THIS CONTEST GETS A PRIZE!!! THE DEADLINE IS OCTOBER 17TH (or so) My address is: MISFITS CONTEST c/o PRESS FOR TIME PO Box 830 Cullowhee, NC 28723 Be sure you put enough postage on the stuff you send me. I ain't paying for anyones slack shit. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:36:22 -0400 (EDT) From: asenath Subject: type o negative i heard type o negative won't be contributing vampira to the misfits tribute comp anymore, apparently they aren't able to finish the track in time for the release. i hope they still put it out sometime soon though. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : every day is halloween... : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:03:42 -0700 From: Otto Subject: rob zombie, samhain I don't know if this has already been stated, but I was watching MTV and on Superock and White Zombie came on. It was More Human Than Human and Rob Zombie was wearing a samhain initium shirt with a huge rip in the neck. Sorry but I didn't want to go through the 200 some issues to see. Well, whatever. Brandon Otto ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:35:41 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Some more questions... Hello fiends... well here are the next set of questions. By the way if you want to play and did not start last week with the first round just jump in. Cause we have a couple more weeks to go. 1) What is a spigas, which Godzilla movie did he first appear in and who woke him up? 2) Ymir was a monster that appeared in 1957, what movie was it that he appeared in(2 extra points for what country he was found in and what planet he came from.)? 3) In the movie plan 9 from outer space who played the three zombie/creatures and which one died during the shooting of the movie? 4) The Zantis Misfits, what were they, what show were they on and when did they first appeara(what year)? 5) What is the first horror movie that Vincent Price appear in and what other famous horror actor appears in this movie?(3 extra points for the exact release date, month day and year) well that is it for now, next set will be on friday. Remember you have to have your answers in by Sunday no later than 10PM. (tes777@bridge.net) Also, keep sending in your t-shirt orders to Dave Naked, if you don't have his e-mail address there is a link to him on Misfits Central, in the news section look under bible t-shirt> Later to the fiendies!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------ From: jold@netacc.net Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 23:22:38 +0000 Subject: Geffen Records I would like to give my two cents regarding the possibility of the Misfits signing to Geffen. If the Misfits are willing to sacrifice their integrity by leaving the punk scene and alienating a good portion of the fans who supported them throughout the years by signing to a major in order to gain mainstream success (MONEY!!!!), than they're obviously selling-out in my book. From, Julie O. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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(Philly) Trocadero The Misfits were... ( this is long, sorry) DCR Misfits Video Trade fuck...huh, huh, i said fuck, huh, huh. Re: Misfits Bible, #241 trades Re: MISFITS JOURNAL, SATANIKA CONTEST Have no fear Chud is here... survey! GLENN WHO? bible post Horror questions for horror kids... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Kennedy Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #241 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Hey Fiends - a lot of you were complaining a few months ago about not getting any Fiend Club mailings. There were some major problems with the first postcard mailing of the summer and several thousand of them did not go out. Well, they are now sitting here in a box next to me (Thanks RW!). These postcards feature the "Shocking Return" artwork by our own Neil McAllister, as well as the tour dates for July and some out of date info. If you'd like one, please send a self-addressed, stamped envelope to: Mark Kennedy; 630 Cabell Ave #4; Charlottesville VA 22903 The postcards are 5 inches x 7 inches, so please send a LARGE envelope. Again, the postcards are 5x7 so please send a large envelope. By the way, the postcards are LARGE, please send a LARGE envelope. Your envelope should be large - at least 5inches x 7inches. Got it? I'll send extras to anyone who can tell where Danzig played on the Ozzfest in Canada, other than the Hamilton, Ontario show. Next, my brother has some stuff for sale, including Ugly Things #14 (Misfits update from the end of '95), Chiller Theatre #3 (Jerry interview with Al Ryan and a lot of old pictures), FeH #12 (the issue in which Jerry first announced the return of The Misfits, autographed), and some other stuff. He'll take the best offer. Email me if you're interested. > From: KLRWLF > > When are the MB shirts going to be ready?? > Soon I hope!! I hope so too. There are still some things that need to be worked out... > From: ? > to sell me one. Also, what ever happened to the singer for "Kryst..."? I Jeff Scott Soto was his name and at the time he was under contract to Yngwie Malmsteen - that's why he used a stage name. > From: Horror Businessman > why arent't doyle and namely jerry wearing their kick ass leather jackets? I asked Jerry about that about a year or so ago. His reply was something along the lines that the jacket is very old and that it will fall apart if he wears it while he's going crazy at shows. He still wears it during photo shoots. > From: "D.ETH" > First, I understand that you asked to keep posts short, but in the same > issue there is a 6 page...short novel, really. > It's not just the fact that it was so long that upsets me, but it had > nothing to do with the Misfits. Why was it in here? This is true. I guess the point of my message was that I was going to have to start paying more attention to Bible posts again, and enforcing those rules more than I would like to... > On to the lighter side of things. Would I be able to obtain a copy of > "Deliver Us From Evil" and/or "Shocking Return" or any other quality > recordings with some or all of the new songs from the christoter(is that Yes. He has a master list of all his stuff at http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/collect/christ.html > From: ww982@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU > Sorry about all those "=" and "20"'s in my last post. I have no idea how > they got there... and if they're in this one too, I'm fucking sorry. That sort of thing usually happens when you write your message in a word processor such as Microsoft Word and then import it to your email account. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:16:54 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #241 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Hey, I've been asked what I think of the new DANZIG songs . . . I don't know. It won't be out for a few more seeks, and I don't have an inside scoop on his dealings. I'm sure, as usual, it's a major departure from his previous release, but I've heard the same criticism of DANZIG 1 and 2 when they first came out. I was pretty dissapointed in his last 2 CDs, so It'll be good to see him make another move. (I still say he's a scumbag . . .) TIMES SQUARE will be playing ERIE, PA on Friday, OCT 18; at HEADLINERS. I'll have more details next week. Our show in Montreal was lots of fun. Dave got kicked out of the country, so we used the drummer from the opening band, JINX as a fill in. You can imagine that it was a shaky set, but a fun time was had by all as various members of JINX and the audience joined us onstage for some songs. Despite all the shit I'd heard for years about Montreal (rude FROGS, no scene, etc . . .), It was the best time I've had at a gig in years, and the most punk as fuck scene I've experienced since '79. > From: cybernaut@mtsi.com > Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #240 > > Does the Undead still make CDs? when will new material come out? >Is there an Undead web page? Look under RELATED BANDS, in MISFITS CENTRAL. I'm working on a better, more streamlined version of the page in my spare time (which has become rare). There is a new UNDEAD CD in the works, though I can't say when or if it'll ever come out. Once I have a few songs finished, I'll make some samples for the website. I gave Mark a demo of some of the new songs. Mark, be my guest, and put samples on the website - if it's possible. ------------------------------ From: JOSEPH THEUERKAUF Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:33:37 -400 Subject: my input i saw only one post in the last issue of this electronic Kleenex that made sense to me. someone finally brought attention to the fact that Glenn Danzig, cool though you may all think he is for starting one of the best punk bands of all time, is no longer with the band, and in fact wants to make as much money off of them as possible--while denying any association with them. isn't that just a little too hard for some of you to swallow? i mean, come on; he wants to make money from a band simply for that purpose. nothing else. and all you people can tallk about is how Glenn this and Danzig that. it makes me retch, and i haven't even been around that long. i feel that if you really wanted to show some support to the 'fits, you'd shove a broomstick up Glenn's ass and support what the band is doing now (not 15 years ago). it's just my opinion, but if you want to spread all this praise about Glenn and his pseudo-rock band, go play on that page and subscribe to that newsletter (oh, wait, does anyone care enough about Danzig to start that letter?). as far as i'm concerned, if Glenn wants nothing more than money from the 'fits, then he doesn't deserve the attention. as far as signing to Geffen is concerned, i already said in here that it wasn't what the band is really about, but in contrast, there really is no other money like corporate money. unless the fans and the band make it work. for those of you wanting them to stay DIY, help them out. if they're as fan-oriented as i've heard, they'll give you shit to do to help out, but you gotta make sure you do it. get them booked, make their living costs as low as possible when they're in your town (find them a place to stay or what ever--i didn't say i had all the answers...). punk has become the great joke of all music. i agree it is dead, but for that greater joke to be funny, we gotta stop the bickering about 'oh this band went corporate and that band broke up and oh, wouldn't it be cool if everything were like it was way back when?' fuck off. i didn't start listening to punk until i was a senior in high school--four years ago. i loved it and everything it was about--except the whining. make punk worthwhile to someone other than your own selfish ass. get your ass in gear and see how easy it is to stay DIY when someone cares. now for my cheap promotional hooplah: (Smiling Villains tapes await you for $1 and your address.) see ya. joe theuerkauf 129 Alten NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503 (cuz i think i forgot it in the last issue) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:06:20 -0400 From: Last Bastard of Rock As far as I know, selling-out means going against what your original plans were. In other words, being a hypocrite for money. Johnny Rotten was always greedy and never said otherwise, therefore he is not a sellout. Now if the Pistols make another album, contrary to Guitar World Article 2 or 3 months ago, then he is a sell out. As far as I know, the Misfits always wanted money, so more power to 'em, even though they're only a cover band. I liked 'em, and would go see them again. Punk's not dead, cause the exploited said so! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:07:33 -0400 From: Last Bastard of Rock Ever notice glenn likes to make up a lot of words. I think that's the Idea behind BlackAciDevil. It's a Glennarism! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:14:26 -0400 From: Last Bastard of Rock For those who wanted to know, Bobby Steele isn't gay! >>Hey Booby >>How's it going. I saw something about you having tits! Is it true? > > attitude. AHEM Pedophile Bobby Steele's a fuckin' pedophile Can't believe what he did to me He's a pedophile Inside your cornhole Is probably his stick If you don't make some noise You won't have to suck his dick Well at least we know he likes girls. Little Girls that is! Just razzin' you Bobby, take care gimpy! J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 23:12:49 -0700 From: Morey Straus Subject: Re: german video > I got my copy from Marco, who put the whole thing together. It costs 25 DM > if you're in Germany, and 30 DM outside. Before you go scrambling to convert your pesos to marks, find out whether or not it's available in VHS. I believe all of europe is on th PAL format. Give that to your american VCR, and you'll get a blank stare in return. ------------------------------ From: Gene Shriver Subject: BLACKACIDEVIL Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 04:13:58 -0400 I talked to Glenn in Cinci. and he said that it would be on Halloween!! But I guess you can really never know!!! Ian ------------------------------ From: blasphemyrecords@juno.com Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:44:27 PST Subject: Post: Hmmm...Geffen.... Bible~ Having been a Misfits fan now for the better part of my life, i too find the possiblity of them signing with Geffen disturbing. Im not sure how to take it, because the misfits have always done everything "their way" from back in the day when the cut their own fucking sleeves for records, made their own patches, stickers etc. Obviously, throughout the years, as popualirty grows, people do all those things for you, but you still have freedom with the music. Ive also been a Bad Religion fan all my life, and am friends with the band, yet i see an obvious change in their music since signing to Atlantic. (this post maybe dragging, cos i am drunk and tired, but stay with me)...my point is, will the Misfits be able to create a record that resembles the misfits of old?....probably not. I guess only time will tell. Dr Chaos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:38:33 -0400 (EDT) From: asenath Subject: misfits @ the troc, jackets, bootlegs i'll be at the troc for the halloween show. it should kick ass. i'm not sure about the police thing, i was there a few weeks ago and i didn't see any. well i hope if there are they are cool. the misfits probably don't wear their jackets cause its fucking hot on stage. i wore mine the other day and as soon as i stepped inside i started sweating. no one should be buying anymore misfits bootlegs... first off almost all of them suck, secondly everything available is in the box set. i could see wanting to buy something with the new lineup on it, but your getting ripped off and so is the band, most boots are between $20-30 2 or 3 shitty boots and you could have the boxset. the only way the price of bootlegs will ever go down is if everyone stops buying them, then you can go out and pick them up for their covers or whatever. oh the guy selling tickets for the birchhill... what are the chances that they sell the club out? just curious, sure i'd rather give you the money than ticketmaster, but i'd rather be sure i got tickets. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : every day is halloween... : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:03:06 -0400 (EDT) From: * Subject: The fits in Philly on halloween The MISFITS IN Philly OCT #!st. If anyone is going to this, please contact me. I wanna meet some list members. -chicken iobs4237@kutztown.edu S P O O K Y P O O P Z I N E ~~~~~~929 overlook road whitehall pennsylvania 18052 usa (610)683-7438~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 10:43:55 -0400 From: Rick McClinton Subject: selling out > From: jold@netacc.net > Subject: Geffen Records > > I would like to give my two cents regarding the possibility of > the Misfits signing to Geffen. If the Misfits are willing to sacrifice > their integrity by leaving the punk scene and alienating a good portion > of the fans who supported them throughout the years by signing to a > major in order to gain mainstream success (MONEY!!!!), than they're > obviously selling-out in my book. Okay, now explain WHY that's a bad thing. Sacrifice "integrity"? Alienating a bunch of bullheaded yahoos who think this kind of shit is their business? I swear, people like you convinced me long ago that to be punk you had to be an idealistic moron, something I seem to have outgrown, sorry. [long speech deleted] Fuck this. I don't care what you think and neither do they. People who listen to name callers like you end up feeding their depression and killing themselves with a shotgun. I dont give a shit who is on what label and neither should you. It's none of your business! If you can't listen to music you LIKE because it's on MTV or whatever, then you're a wimp who cares too much about what other people think of you. And I'm so sorry that the rest of the country is waking up to what cool music is all about and spoiling your exclusive little party. Alienating! Mainstream success! Jeezus! You're insane. It's like a Venture Capitalist, see? These VC's go running around Silicon Valley, looking for dudes in college who have blazing cool ideas but no money to start a company to develop and market. Then they provide capital in return for a chunk of the newly-formed company and some say about how to run it, usually in case the guy with the ideas happens to be a complete moron about running a business. In this case, Geffen is betting that if they throw a little change Jerry's (& co) way in return for selling their next album, they'll be able to tour more or better and get more people to figure out that they like the Misfits and sell a bunch of albums. They don't care about a bunch of high-school cliqueishness & 'keeping it in the scene' cos punk rockers are no better than anybody else, they're just cooler, which entails no special priveleges or anything like that, I will remind you. Jerry & co. are betting that Geffen or somebody at Geffen won't try to fuck with the band in some executive geek's opinion of 'broadening the market'. I don't think Geffen has a track record of doing that sort of thing anyway. I personally think Jerry (& co of course) have a pretty good bet there. They get more stability in the operations of their band, access to high quality studios to make it easier to record, and a bunch of help touring & stuff. Anyone think I'm insane? Rick rmcclint@Tmac.com Oh -- "If we've sold out, then where's the money?" D.C.H.C. kudos to anyone who can place that quote... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 03:30:42 -0500 From: Brian Cox Subject: Geffen == Sellout, What? > I would like to give my two cents regarding the possibility of > the Misfits signing to Geffen. If the Misfits are willing to sacrifice > their integrity by leaving the punk scene and alienating a good portion > of the fans who supported them throughout the years by signing to a > major in order to gain mainstream success (MONEY!!!!), than they're > obviously selling-out in my book. I'm having a hard time following your logic here. How do the Misfits allienate there fans by sighning with Geffen? The act of sighning with a major label shouldn't effect you or the other fans at all. What the Misfits actually do when they are on that label might make a difference but just sighning with Geffen should not make any difference what so ever. Your are making the assumption that once they are on Geffen that they will do things differently. If that were the case than you might have grounds to say they are selling out but it would be wrong to just decide thay they will sell out just by signing with Geffen. How are they sacrificing there integrity? And what makes you think they are going to leave the "punk" scene, if there really is a punk scene. Another thing. How can you automatically think that they will have mainstream sucess? Maybee I'm being naive to think that the Misfits just will not be the next craze to hit MTV. I just can't see this happening. I don't think a band has too automatically start playing arenas when they sign with a big label. You play what you can fill and I think the 'Fits basically will always be a little bar band. They might start playing venues that are a little bigger but they will never be a arena band. This isn't a knock on them it's just what they are. In St. Louis where I live there are three major places that bands can play at. There is Mississippi Nights, the American, and the Riverport Amphetheter (In the winter really big bands play one of the stadiums but whatever). Mississippi Nights is a little bar and is a nice place to see a show because it is small and you get to be right there. The American holds a lot more people but it is still small enough that you get a feeling that you are there with the band. Now Riverport is a big place that tons of people can see a show at. This place sucks. You have seats and you can't really see very good. Now to my point. At the very best I see the Misfits playing the American theater. (Last time they came here they played Mississippi Nights). This by no means a bad place to see a show and does not take away freom the atmosphere of the show. Bottom Line, Th3 Misfits, even on a major label, will never get so big that they will stop playing little clubs and bars. This sems to be the biggest concer of people out there. It just won't happen. If the Misfits change (notice I didn't say sell out) it is there own fault. Not the record labels fault. ------------------------------ From: "Scott Palermo" Subject: penn fuckin' state Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 03:18:44 -0000 Anybody going to the Penn State show? If so - let me know. I'd like to meet up with any fiends. I had to miss the action park show due to a friend's wedding , but I'll definitely be at the Penn State show. So, if any of you bible fiends would like to meet up with me and my girl (this includes you , Mark-are you going?) get some mail to me and we'll figure out what to do. I hope to meet at least one of you clowns. 'Times I never hardly sleep at night ------------------------------ Date: 9 OCT 96 10:17:30 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: issue 241 Scott Bissett wrote -> I don't know if you guys are aware of this yet. If >you are, sorry bout dat, if not, then... There's a great German video >fanzine out, and there's a ton of Misfits stuff in it. >It's called 'Madrezid Videofanzine Vol.II' Is this in the North American NTSC format or the European PAL format? You cant watch european videotapes, even though they may be VHS, on US machines cause the video is recorded differently. >TICKETS E-MAIL ME AND WE CAN WORK SOMTHING OUT.IF YOU'RE GONNA GO TO THE >SHOW PLEASE BUY THE TICKETS FROM ME BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE TO PAY >TICKETMASTER SERVICE CHARGES ... I assume this is a typical NJ "PAY to PLAY" gig in which the club sells tickets to the band, which then has to sell them to people to come to the show. While we would save Ticketmaster surcharges by going through you, you should be fair and admit that your selling them because your band HAS TO to get paid anything, not because you want to do us any great service. If I am off base, please accept my apologies, but I've been through this route myself many times over the years, and it sucks. NikChicken@aol.com said -> In Return of the Fly Jerry uses some cool >effects on his bass. This sounds like a wah or an envelope filter or >something of that nature, but I cannot be sure. Anyone know? I know live he doesnt use any effects. It sounds like it could maybe be a chorus pedal, or maybe they used some rack studio effects during mix down to get that sound. >Also, at the beginning of Death Comes Ripping, he does some wierd sounding >thing that I have no clue what it is. My band spent a long time trying to >figure this one out, but we couldn't so I settled on a pick slide, which I >don't think it is. Anyone know about this also? It has to be a pick slide, on the bass, and if his amp is all the way on 10 like CG said he plays them, it should make that real gnarly sound, which is the perfect intro to that tune, it actually sounds like something is ripping! Evil Dieff said -> am i the only one who thinks all these sightings of 138, >the word "fiends" the phrase, "walk among us" etc... are blown out of >proportion" no, I agree, i think its funny to see how far you can stretch these concepts, and have people still believe its really important. :) somebody else said "There is a magazine out now called HIGH TIMES:guide to punk in the '90s." WOW!, now I've seen it all. Pot and Punk, perfect together. Next thing we know, Johhny Ramone will be filling in for Jerry Garcia " 1 2 3 4 Truckin' got my chips cashed in, Truckin', blah blah blah blah" but I must say this was the best SIG I have seen in ages!! Simpsons fucking rule!!! ""A boy without mischief is like a bowling ball without a liquid center" Homer Simpson another typical long ass post from me .... AZ! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 14:51:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: CHUD, the misfit among Misfits Well, I'm glad someone else appreciates Chud like I do. Thanks for showing your support Scott. You've heard of the hardest working man in show business, well Chud's the hardest working man in horror business (I know, CHEEZY). But really, Chud's a great guy and it seems like no one really cares about him. I mean, everyone compares Michale and Glenn, Jerry and Doyle get plenty of attention, 'cause their the long-timers, and Bobby's always around to talk to. Sure their all great guys, but what about Chud. I don't think any one else works as hard to make the fans feel like they belong more than Chud (and it takes alot to top the guys in this band). Personally, I think we should have a Chud appreciation issue, I know any one who's met Chud would agree with me. What else can I say, Chud is the shit (that's a good thing), He's the man! So everyone who's met Chud, tell all the unlucky people who haven't all about him! And speaking of Chud anybody who would like a copy of the tape his old band, Sacred Trash put out, I would be happy make one to trade with copies of recordings people have or for $2 to cover postage and the tape. E-mail me at: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca Long live Chud! D.ETH ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:30:59 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #241 Fiends, Just for the record I was only kidding when I mentioned the secret society of fiends in the entertainment industry. And could somebody please let me know the going price for the Shocking Return CD. Tks Roger ------------------------------ From: llama@sprynet.com Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:30:06 -0700 Subject: RE: last ish Ughh.. reply to last ish. lot's of messages, all convienintly stuck in one message. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RE: >From: "D.ETH" >> I realize I haven't been a subscriber for very long, but I have noticed a couple of things I believe need addressing, and I put it in here because there are certain individuals whom I believe should read this. First, I understand that you asked to keep posts short, but in the same issue there is a 6 page...short novel, really. It's not just the fact that it was so long that upsets me, but it had nothing to do with the Misfits. Why was it in here? Sure, "llama" had some great points, but he/she wrote about Pearl Jam primarily, and other completely non-related bands. There was absolutely no mention of the Misfits or even the most remotely related bands like, say, Metallica. This is the MISFITS BIBLE not a speakers corner for idealogical propaganda. << Oh, I bothered you? GOOD. I hardly talked about Pearl Jam, and I was using them as an EXAMPLE. Examples are useful things to help prove your point, dear. Was my post short? No. Tough shit. If you don't want to read a long message, skip it! I said what I wanted, and I recieved no negative replys, except yours. I received about 10 positive, and/or constructive messages. I replied to all of them. Hmm, in your very rebuttal, which claims my message has NOTHING to do with the 'fits.... you said not a damn thing about the 'fits either. Metallica has little to do with the Misfits, as well. This is a speaker's corner, people post here to DISCUSS things, related to the Misfits. If you aren't interested in hearing other people's words. Then get off of the list. Although, the propaganda bit is hilarious. Silly cow, I actually made arguments against myself to make my own argument more solid, and keep it from being propoganda. Who made it bad for me to have my say, and then ok for you to "clear the air". The air is fucking clear enough without you. If you want to post something bitching me or anyone else out that is fine with me. In fact, please do. But at least make a constructive argument against me. Your post is hippocritical in that "nobody talks Misfits" bit, because you didn't even say a damn thing about them either. If you have a problem with someone on this list, then EMAIL them, if you want to avoid cluttering the list. >> My other concern is with multiple posts. Can't people say what they need to say in one post? Instead of sending a seperate response to every post from last ish. read the damn thing through, collect your thoughts and address them all at once. Well, that's all my bitching. << I agree completely. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RE: >From: ww982@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU >> The truth is, if it wasn't for the whining and bickering and (god forbid) HUMOR on the bible, there wouldn't be a reason to have it. We could just click on the News section in Mark's pit and spend the rest of the afternoon on the Beavis & Butthead page. << See above reply... point proven. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Does anyone know when the Misfits will be playing in DC? I really want to go to a show. Also, are there any GIF's availble of the T-Shirts being offered through Jerry Only, or the fiend club or wherever the hell they are offered? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:48:37 -0400 From: David Kramer Subject: Uh.... Newfits? Hallo Fiends! Blah blah blah this is my first time inscribing into the bible and I'm really nervous and incontinent. However, I felt I had to respond to Dave Naked's dissection of the Misfits v. "Newfits" (his term). Down there near the bottom of the post was the statement that "Most -- OK, All" of "us" began listening to the Misfits after Garage Days Re-re-re-revisited or the first Danzig opus. Now Mr. Naked said he was writing his entry when he was home sick from school -- high school, most likely. I'm not about to turn this into a "I was jamming with the Misfits while you were contemplating what brand of stain to christen yer pampers with" type of posting. I'm not all THAT old -- 28 -- and was turned onto the Misfits early in high school (about 83-84). Those were the days in pre-history when the only thing that went on in the front row of a Metallica show was flopping hair and flying fists. I was a devoted thrasher (Slayer, Venom, Exodus) and wanna-be punker (Flag, Jerks, DKs, Broken Bones, Agnostic, MDC DRI COC, and all of the great initial bands of the day...) A guy I worked with gave me a tape, which I only wish I still had, containing most of the tracks from Legacy and Walk Among Us -- with more than a few outtakes and alternative tracks (which I why I wish I had it still.) I was and am I die-hard Misfits fan -- I liked Samhain a little less --- Danzig and Lucifuge were both good -- and then it sort of petered out for me. I suppose all of this stuff means little to most readers, but rest assured, I Do have a point. Dave --I don't think you should feel that the original Misfits "weren't YOUR band." -- They were, and they always will be a part of what you are -- especially if you're a "Newfits" fan. For me, it was more than an epiphany --- the Misfits combined my two greatest loves -- death rock and cheesy horror flicks -- and turned out simple, fun, thought-provoking and culture inspiring music -- I'd imagine that they still do. So, the question remains --- just whose band were they, if not yours? Were they the band for kids from Lodi, N.J., who were 16 in 1980? Were they the band for anyone who collects all their 7 inches and the exorbitant prices they bring? Were they the band for we punkers who are quickly approaching old age (30?) Or are they still OUR band -- even after all this time? Satan Loves you and So Do I... D -- Kramer :<> Dk ------------------------------ Subject: misery tomb From: murdergram@juno.com (Jay C Jack) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 15:30:00 EDT oh my my my how could anyone (dave naked) say that the new misfits are the better band. although i haven't heard the new incarnation yet (but soon will), i'm sure that it just doesn't have the energy. i've seen graves and he looks like a fine replacement to glenn and popular feelings seem mixed about him. but the thing best thing about the misfits was they didn't give a fuck about anything and it showed in their music. if they sound tight now, that's probably just because they had like what, a decade to practice? signing to geffen is fine by me. the independent thing is a great way to get things done but it's stupid not to sign to a major label if they give you creative freedom. that's not selling out, that's just intelligent. selling out would be what a band like greenday did. they were indie, on lookout, had a good following, and a somewhat good ethic. they go major, imbrace the media/mtv, get a stupid following, and turn into complete morons ( though i don't know how bright they were before). I hate using greenday as an example because even when they were indie they sucked, but it works nonetheless. yeah the misfits will be on geffen but so what, i doubt that they will do something stupid. besides, listen to the music, it's not exactly that catchy garbage that mtv would play. one more thing and i'll shut up, this probably isn't coherent anyway. i think that dave naked was way out of line saying "most of us here probably got into the misfits because of garage days or mother". I have never thought mother was anything special and when mother 93 hit mtv i cringed (not because it was on there but because it sucked, and all the jockboys went around blasting it from their "systems"). As for garage days, before i heard it i owned earth ad and walk among us. don't go and make that kind of generalization. i have liked the misfits since '89 when i heard a copy of mommy... dubbed on a certron tape, riding around in a nissan. that was my band, not the new guys. they've been with me for 7 great years and "they" always will. Jay Jack "send out my murdergram to all these monster kids, they send it right back to me signed in their daddy's blood, and ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE" - the misfits ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:35:08 -0400 Subject: Stuff Misfit4298---I like Kryst too. Then again I am a "metalhead" of sorts (New Mercyful Fate ROCKS!) and not into punk at all, except for the Undead and unless you consider Black Flag and The Misfits punk, which I do not. Cybernaut--from someone who has your tape, I rate it a 9. I do tend to be lenient, though, as I've heard some of the worse ones. The quality isn't so hot (maybe a 6), but the performances, and Corpsegrinder guest spots are incredible....being a Corpse fan. Discography page.....sheesh. http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ This will take you into Misfits Central---perhaps the happiest place on earth---there is news, Misfits Bible back issues, biographies, lyrics, collector pages, and the BIGGEST DISCOGRAPHY you'll ever see on the Misfits, or Samhain/Danzig/Undead for that matter. The discography gives pressing info, track listings, dates released, every damn nit picky detail. D.ETH--I am the infamous ChristoTer. Yes, I do have Deliver Us From Evil and Shocking Return (listed as 3/21/96 Die Rohre). Check the page---as posted above---in the News section and you'll find "Misfits Live Tapes Available". There's my list of stuff. $5 a tape--everything included. This is not a hoax or a rip off. I've dealt with over 50 people from 7 different countries and I've lost track of states....I used to know. I heard the same thing asenath heard about Type O NOT doing Vampira....it's on one of the Type O webpages. To all the Geffen bitchers. The Misfits ARE NOT PUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They're not betraying you by getting signed, you're betraying them by dropping them! YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN BECAUSE IF YOU WERE YOU WOULDN'T GIVE A SHIT!!!!!!!!! I love the band and I think it's about time they get the $$$ they rightfully deserve. Why do people bitch when the bands they love get paid? Isn't it logical to be happy for them? Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:12:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Dennis Pierce Subject: Noise at the beginning of "Death comes..." I think the noise at the beginning of "Death Comes Ripping" is so cool. I used to think it was a guitar, but I think I figured it out. It's a pick slide (or fingernail slide) done on a distorted bass guitar. It starts off slowly, catching the windings of the strings. This is the "ripping" sound. Then, it speeds up and ends on a sustained 'A' power chord. You can then hear the guitar enter over the bass' chord with an 'A' power chord with an octave in it. That's the higher sound over the rumbling bass chord. After that, the drums enter. That seems to be the way they recorded it. Experiment with slides; you should be able to recreate it. Oh yeah, while we're discussing EAD sounds. Does anyone know what Doyle used for his tone on EAD? It doesn't sound like WAU's tone. It sounds like he's using something to make his tone warbly, maybe a chorus or tremelo? Or maybe he is just putting a lot of vibrato in his attack? Any ideas would be cool. Dennis pierced@bgnet.bgsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 09 Oct 96 18:17:17 EDT From: Steve Klepinger <75016.2203@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: DEMO TAPE HEY, 'FITers, ONE and ALL! You guys like the Misfits, Danzig, Stabbing Westward, Marilyn Manson, and/or Type - O Negative?!? I got a band here that combines most of those sounds and comes out with some cool stuff! The band is LegioN. Basically it's THIS: Take Marilyn Manson's lyrics and vocals Add in Stabbing Westwards vocals and music Throw in some Misftits, Lords of Acid Kick in some White Zombie, with just a slight heaping of Danzig Add just a pinch of Zombie's/Hetfield's grunge styled VOCALS -n- versitility Add a SHIT LOAD of Type O Negative And top off with a little Nine Inch Nails Let simmer for about 5 seconds, then add gasoline, nytroglycerine, and a flame-thrower attached to a chainsaw, and you have a glimpse of what LegioN is... AND, ON TOP OF ALL THAT, IT'S PRICE IS CHEAP! And best of all, ALL THE PRODUCTION IS DONE BY HAND by ME. No record execs. fuckin' the deal up. It's the PURE SHIT! UN-CUT and (PROBABLY) UNMARKETABLE!! Any questions? (Are you interested in more info...? Ask anything you like, I will answer ALL questions...) In Darkness I Walk.... Bryce Kain of LegioN ------------------------------ Subject: Next stop annihilation! From: Ken D Ward Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 17:13:11 EDT >From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com >The song Hatebreeders contains this line -> "Because the next time you >I tried looking up the word murderlation, no dictionary had anything on >it. What the hell does it mean? Murderlation is NOT a real word. Although it's easy to understand what he means by it, and it also rhymed with annihilation. Glenn did this a LOT! Look at Halloween II, that's not Non-Standard Latin, it's ILLITERATE Latin! Also, for the fifth time in a row...I have lost my InterNet account. Can someone PLEASE do the following: Download the tablature from the Web Site, Left-click and highlight the entire text of it, and "cut" it. Then e-mail me at allmurderallgutsallfun@juno.com and then click on paste. Thanks. This isn't because I need it, but because I have noticed so many of you asking if something is wrong on there, and seeing as how I never bothered to look at it, I don't know for sure what is correct on it and what is wrong. Seeing as I've been playing these songs since just a few years after The Misfits originally broke up, I am very sure of my ability to correctly play them. Also, if you are trying to learn then by ear off the albums, be sure to tune your guitar A=448 and not A=440. It's just a difference in tape speeds from recording them in one studio, and mixing and/or mastering in another. "John Wayne was a Nazi" - The Stains Misfit's Punk Planet BBS (501) 772-1832 5 1/4" floppy is NOT better than 3 1/2" hard. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 20:17:10 EDT From: "Whittle, Patrick R." Subject: geffen move stupid why? they have nothing to gain but money, and after they spent so much time they were just doing it so they could be the Misfits again. and it's not like they'll get any new fans. think about it...did the Circle Jerks get any new fns when they signed to Mercury? and they are a lot cloer to being mainstream acceptable than the misfits ever will be ya know. it's just not gonna work. i don't understand it. does michaele graves think he's doing us a favor by doing this? that's what it sounded like. WE DON'T WANT "BIG TOURS", THE SMALL VENUES YOU ARE PLAYING NOW ARE FINE!!!!!!!!!! patrick the poughkeepsie fiend "this isn't really death....make a minute maybe it is...." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 20:38:40 -0400 From: Jordan Smith Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #241 >I tried looking up the word murderlation, no dictionary had anything on it. >the hell does it mean? Did Glenn just make up his own words? I >assume it has to do with murder. Anyone know???? > >AZ Have you ever seen ANY buggs bunny cartoons?? And I quote."..I'll murdelate ya'.." Where do you think you get cool lines like that? >Hehe... I can see it now at high schools everywhere; PUNK 101. >it's not hard folks... buy a guitar, learn the power chord, and >sing about stuff that sucks... That's pretty funny. It sums it ALL up! 138 Sighting: (I know someone was just flaming these but I truly belive Matt Greoning is a fan) On the one Simpsons where Marge gets arrested, there's that geek guy in the courtroom who says, "..and if we freeze on frame 138 we distinctively see.." Coincidence or not, it's still pretty cool. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:05:43 -0400 From: Last Bastard of Rock Just an early, really early, note to all the fiends in Southern Ontario. On Saturday, December 21st/1996 in Burlington Ontario, will be the festivals of festivals (applause) the FESTIVAL OF FIENDS! It will feature 15 bands from the area. Yes the Rainbow Butt Monkeys came from Burlington, so did Trunk, and Sianspheric, Crimson Jimson, among others. Not to mention the talent that has come from Hamilton. It is a veritable talent pool here. Well anyone interested in attending should e-mail me. I know it's a long way off but you can book your plans to come on out. I will let everyone know the final details as soon as i know them myself. J. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:32:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam P Segal Subject: Older fans Someone last issue said all of us got into the Misfits after Danzig I, or Garage Days. Not true. I remember awaiting the release of Earth A.D. But, I do understand your point, as I never saw the original band. (did see samhain though). So, there are some long-timers on the list. Also, people keep saying they'll put in their "2 cents worth" about the Geffen deal. After the fourth or fifth time "2 cents worth" was posted I decided I'd let everyone know that my band's name is 2=A2 worth, so keep on putting the name out there! And, send me your address if you want a free sticker. --Adam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 21:52:16 -0700 From: DLM Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #241 First off, Dave Naked, you hit the nail on the head, man. We're just gonna have to deal with Jerry and co. giving it another stab. I'm 17. I love the old Misfits, I wouldn't have heard of them if my cousin hadn't turned me onto them after he got into Danzig. But, they were before my time. This is now. As far as I saw them live, they were great. But still, that was them playing the old songs we know and love and a few originals, but its hard to compare them to the old ones based on hearing them one time live without hearing what the lyrical content sounds like so, I'm going to wait until I hear the new album in April or whatever to make my final assessment on them. So, as of now, I'm sort of middle of the road. Just wait to hear the new album to make up your mind. -Mike (insert punk song quote) ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Shows at the Troc. (Philly) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:27:40 -0400 >Was anyone there when the misfits played earlier this year at the >Troc? After the show there was a big police presence on the street. >I've been there a lot and this isn't the norm. I myself got harassed, >and I heard a story about a kid getting beat up or something. Yes, I was there and that is the norm. I've seen tons of shows there and they always have the cops outside after the show to prevent everyone from just hanging out. I didn't know about anyone getting beat up but it would not surprise me. Sorry about getting harassed, keep in mind that even though the cops have guns and possess the power to arresst you doesn't mean that they aren't intimidated by the large groups of punks that collect outside the enterence after the show. They just want you to go away so they don't have to deal with any problems. I don't think they are purposely there to fuck with you. On a side note, if anyone was was considering going to the Halloween show in Philly, I strongly recommend it. I saw the Misfits five times in five different states during the Spring tour and twice during the Summer tour and of all the shows the show at the Troc. in Philly was by far the best. That is probably why the Misfits decided to have the Halloween show there. Normally they no dot allow stage diving there, but they did at the Misfits show. There were bouncers present, but all they did was break up the NUMBEROUS fights. Later, Mark B. By the way, I am still looking to buy any Agent Orange Vinyl!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:56:27, -0500 Subject: Trocadero I don't know if anyone really cares or not but it seems like the Trocadero in Philly, PA will be closing it's doors for good around the end of the month. The Misfits may just end up being the last band ever to play on this stage. Anyone who lives here could tell you what a great place this is to see a band play and how much it sucks that it is closing down. However, I couldn't think of a better band to play the final show, and on Halloween!!! I hope the place is destroyed in the course of the Misfits set so that the Troc can go out with a big ass bang. I have MY tickets already, what are you all waiting for??? ...Marino ------------------------------ From: JGellis100@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:14:25 -0400 Subject: The Misfits were... ( this is long, sorry) The Misfits were a " PUNK ROCK " band from Lodi, New Jersey. Punk Rock! Those two words held a great meaning once. Fine! So the Misfits sign with Geffen, but think about what will happen if they go on MTV. All of a sudden you will start to see those high-cut trendy shirts with The Chrimson Ghost or a Misfits label printed on them. Next, Skater( cock-rockers, the destroyers of punk, stupid ass faggot fuck ups who don't know shit about it's true meaning but spike their hair and say their hardcore) with Misfits shirts and ( I hate this so much) Misfit skateboard decks? Little kids with devil locks not knowing the true meaning or feeling put into years of hard work and musical talent, but saying their cool because of their new ( now trendy) hairstyle. Remember that Marylin Manson song, " Sweet Dreams" ? Well its been made into a techno/rave song, MTV has made trendy motherfuckers listen to it and going around saying its the coolest thing. Whats next a " MOMMY... " techno song. AGAIN meaning lost. D.I.Y. whatever happened to that,? Its pretty much a lost art. The music that inspired and moved a cult following will be lost forever. People grow older and change. Now think about this.... Who were the Misfits really? Glenn Danzig, Jerry Only ( and Manny ) Just a couple of " Punk Rock" guys from Lodi, New Jersey. Well i think the new Misfits ( NOT EVEN THE REAL MISFITS)are bullshit the only real one is Jerry, ( Doyle kinda ) I've heard some of their new stuff and thought it was pretty weak. Lets face it, although most of you hate him, Glenn wrote the songs. It was his words. See what you love destroyed or fight to keep whats left. Do what ever you can. Twat rock = skate rock. SKaters and people who watch rancid, green day and mtv are not PUNK ROCK> Try writing to Rocky Caiafa to get your concerns throught to the misfits. Real sorry this was so long but someones got to say it!!!! P.S. IDEA why not make Misfits Videos ( o.k. idea ) but make them available to fiend club members only and no one else that include moron television, and whats with the fiend club, i'm a member and there not sending me shit!! But everyone else is getting their stuff. ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:37:53 +0200 Subject: DCR >thing that I have no clue what it is. My band spent a long time >trying to figure this one out, but we couldn't so I settled on a pick >slide, which I don't think it is. Anyone know about this also? I thought the pick slide sounded good, Nick.. >I tried looking up the word murderlation, no dictionary had anything >on it. What the hell does it mean? Did Glenn just make up his own >words? I assume it has to do with murder. Anyone know???? Yep, it's made up.(it's been brought up before...) Same with "somnambulance" in NOTLD. > I have an extra Beware and the Rest cd for sale. Only $30. Anybody I've seen it for 20 and even that's bogus. It sounds like crap. > My other concern is with multiple posts. Can't people say what they > need That's gotta be pointed towards me.. if you noticed, I've collected my thoughts here. But so what if i posted multiple times? no biggie. >red-haired kid who was the biggest Misfits fan in the world. He wore >flannel shirts, glasses and was an honors student... so would you kick >him out of hey, I'm an honor student... so are all my friends,and they like the Misfits... Some are in the top 10% of their class... I've been listening to the Misfits for 3 years now. >their integrity by leaving the punk scene and alienating a good >portion of the fans who supported them throughout the years by signing >to a major in order to gain mainstream success (MONEY!!!!), than >they're obviously selling-out in my book. Inegrity Schmintegrity. How much integrity can you have in the so called "punk scene"... And again, what's so wrong with money and success? Give me a call in five years, I'd like to know how well off you are. Hey Michale! I saw yer post, so maybe you'll read this. Don't tell me you don't want money... I'm sure that's not yer only reasoning, but it's a part right? Really though, being a rock star would totally rule... and so does money. "...you looked like an angel... but I got wise; you're the devil in disguise." Elvis "Michale Graves" Presley -greg ------------------------------ From: jrekosk@ns.net Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 23:28:13 -0700 Subject: Misfits Video Trade I'm looking for any video footage of The "old" Misfits. I know that they were on a program called "Why be something you're not" and there was a video for "Braineaters". If someone is willing to give me a tape with these and any other availabe footage, I'll make them a copy of all 12 episodes of THE CRIMSON GHOST. Thats right, all 167 unedited minutes of Republic's classic 1946 serial. This is the original black and white version, not the colorized version that was chopped down to 90 minutes. The quality of my version is excellent. Obviously I can only take one person up on this offer, so if you are interested, send me a message at JRekosk@ns.net. Jeff Rekoske ------------------------------ From: whiplash@juno.com Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:05:52 PST Subject: fuck...huh, huh, i said fuck, huh, huh. >Subject: THE MISFITS V. THE NEWFITS (the final discussion) >From: dave naked >Im sure most (okok, all) of us started >liking them after "Garage Days" and/or "Mother" (or at least "Danzig I"). Speak for yourself, please. >Guys, as much as i love em, its a dead band. Heres a new thing >Jerrys >got going...we can support them, we can go to shows (did you ever >think >youd actually see the misfits????) No, i like the new 'fits and loved the two shows i saw. HellHound "Viddy well brother, viddy well" "ifyoutrytomakesenseofthisyoumighthavetoputthebarrelinyourmouth" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:46:16 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #241 From: misfit6x3@juno.com (Just some Fiend) >From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com >Subject: murderlation >The song Hatebreeders contains this line -> "Because the next time you >can't take it, Next thought murderlation" >I tried looking up the word murderlation, no dictionary had anything >on it. What the hell does it mean? Did Glenn just make up his own >assume it has to do with murder. Anyone know???? > >AZ Murder. Hmmmm....thats a toughie. I wonder. (sarcasm) No shit it has to do with murder! Think. Murder-lation. I wonder what a "HateBreeder" is? Well. Its off to my dictionary...................... just a sorry ass bastard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:21:00 -0500 (EST) From: reaganpr@jmu.edu Subject: trades fiends.. I have some items that i would be willing to trade for almost anything punk or misfits related. I have some limited edition static age posters, pictures (color) of the 10/31/95 show at coney island high, and a misfits crimson ghost T-shirt (new w/ new skull on both sides and misfits above it)...thanx pat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:27:20 -0500 (EST) From: ww982@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: MISFITS JOURNAL, SATANIKA CONTEST Just a reminder to everyone: The Fiend Foto contest is still going on. What you do: send me a kick-ass picture of you, your girl/boy friend, your mom, your gerbil, whatever, doing something/wearing something/ being somewhere misfits related. The winner gets my copy of Satanika 0. You have to SNAIL MAIL the pictures. My VAX system can't view or download images. Send pictures to PO BOX 830 Cullowhee, NC 28723 EVERYONE WHO ENTERS WILL WIN SOMETHING! Also, I've had a lot of support for the Misfits yearbook (Bible 241), now called the FEARBOOK (thanks to the Horror Kid). I need more support, though... more ideas and more criticism. Send any one that to ww982@wcu.edu And if you want to go ahead and start sending photos, they go to the same address as the contest. Thanks- Billy Vile WW982@wcu.edu ------------------------------ From: Braineater Subject: Have no fear Chud is here... Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Well a few people are complaining about Jerry's songwriting.. well Alot of the new material is being written by Chud... He wrote me a letter a few weeks ago and said he was finishing them... he said they kick ass.. a modest guy// :) But I trust him.. he rules GOT MY CHANCE tickets.. Brown something or other is opening I was hoping for Blanks 77... Brown Tounge?/ I will be the one hopefully with a shirt that says CHUD fan club on it.. :) Cause he da man.. Anyone wanna meet? Let me know Because I too am da man Heh heh.. well not really... Neil ------------------------------ From: MR HAROLD W JAFFE Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:11:10, -0500 Subject: survey! often we talk about our favorite misfits songs, but i was wondering what songs don't people like? I want to see what everyone's least favorite misfits song, so e-mail me your least favorite song by sunday at 8:00 pm, and i will post the top three disliked in the Monday bible. qbxr80a@prodigy.com By the way Mark, how much do you think a barely used copy of collection ll on red vinyl is worth? Thanks everyone. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:28:55 -0400 Subject: GLENN WHO? FIENDS Mark Lerret has remastered and compiled 17 tracks of NEW MISFITS tracks. Yes, Blacklight, The Haunting, The Hunger, and the one that you did NOT see live---Dr. Phibes Rises Again! Mr. Lerret mentioned it last bible, so I'm just here to tell you guys that it's well worth looking into, and Mark Lerret is definitely a good guy who will not screw you over. On to other things, went down to Rebel Radio yesterday, checked out the 5Blackacidevil promo......the song "Blackacidevil" is just.....bad. I mean, it doesn't sound like Glenn, and it's got nothing exciting to it. Just because something's loud doesn't mean its good... Chris ------------------------------ From: jermz@gvtc.com Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:30:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: bible post hey, does anyone know where i can get a good quality crimson ghost outfit like the one in the tv series? thanx jermz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:58:42 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Horror questions for horror kids... Hello fiends in bibleland... Here comes your next set of questions and i hope they haven't been to easy for you guys!!! 1) What was Gamera and what happened to him at the end of the movie? 2) Who was Im-Ho-Tep, and who played him first?(2 extra points if you name the movie and what year it was out, double the exta point if you give the name they changed his name to in the other movies) 3) What three actors played the role of Phantom of the Opera, and what years did the movies come out? 4)Which Misfits song was taken from a movie and the cover art was taken from a magazine, also you have to give the name of the two main actresses(both very famous) and the magazine the art came from? 5) Name three horror movies that Kenneth Tobey acted in and what the role was (2 extra points if you can tell me the connection between the three)? oh i did notice this a while ago and i see that person is defending Jerry and Doyle, but John I haven't seen a Danzig show where Glenn, Eerie, Chuck (when he was there) and John (when he had the time) didn't spend ours hanging out with all their fans after or before the show. I have never met any of them at a signing, well actually i have never had the chance to go to a signing, they are always at bad times for me. You are right for once, about Jerry and the guys they do the same. I have to say the bible was a little bit better on 241. you know we do seem to do better when we are talking about things that are Misfits, Samhain, Danzig, horror, etc related. i do remember something to the effect that, that is why we are all here. Unless it is some kind of conspiracy by aliens. Oh if anyone catches that crazy movie called Them(not the one from 1954) 1996, its as if they tooks a bunch of parts of the X-Files and some other scifi movies and made a movie out of it. Take a look but don't say i didn't warn you. well i hope everyone has a great weekend and remember you have to have your answers for all this weeks questions in by Sunday by 10PM. Answers will be posted on Monday and your next set of questions to boot. Oh one thing, someone asked about the bible t-shirt, well i saw the final or close to it drawing last night and it is great, everyone is going to be blown away. Greg out did himself i must say. So i hope things will start moving to begin production. Plus i'm sure Mark will let you know. Later to all the finedies everywhere!?! TES777(tammy) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Fiend Club and Danzig page Words least favorite misfits song 7" Troc, Halloween & Gravediggers misfits on the mainstream Art,tapes and the Undertaker Misc. stuff All the answers to your questions... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:20:55 -0400 From: Fiend Subject: Caroline Records Update VIOLENT WORLD ------------- The Misfits tribute album, Violent World, will be released by Caroline Records on January 28, 1997. Featuring 14 different Misfits tunes performed by 14 different bands (each band selected their own song), this album will be available on LP, CD, and Cassette. As usual, there will be a limited color vinyl pressing on 3 different colors. The actual colors and numbers will not be announced until a few months AFTER the album is released. Caroline will begin promotion in mid-November with postcards and posters with national advertisements in magazines in January. The people at Caroline, especially Tom Bejgrowicz (executive producer), are really excited about this. I've EARTH A.D. ---------- Yes, it's being reissued on October 29, 1996... but there's a twist. First, all Plan 9 logos have been replaced with Caroline logos. Second, this CD is on a standard silver CD (as opposed to the original press of 15000 gold CDs in April 1992). The album cover graphic will also be on the actual CD itself, with some purple coloring. Third, an extremely limited pressing (886 copies) will be distributed with the original Plan logos... these 886 copies were pressed in 1994 and are identical to the 1992 press except for the fact that they are standard silver CDs... start looking now. > From: "Whittle, Patrick R." > Subject: geffen move stupid > why? they have nothing to gain but money, and after they spent so much > time they were just doing it so they could be the Misfits again. > and it's not like they'll get any new fans. think about it...did the > Circle Jerks get any new fns when they signed to Mercury? and they are > a lot cloer to being mainstream acceptable than the misfits ever will be > ya know. it's just not gonna work. i don't understand it. Ever hear of distribution? Think about it. Look at it this way - The members of the Misfits have families to support and lives outside of the band. At this time, they are doing everything themselves - booking shows, distributing records, maintaining the Fiend Club, and writing/recording music, among other things. Having a major distributor will take the load off them and also get their stuff out to all the fans, whether they're in New Jersey, South America, or Sweden. I get e-mail messages and letters all the time from fiends all over the world asking if Misfits stuff has come out yet. It takes a LONG time for stuff to get overseas. Some of you are lucky enough to be right on the east coast of the US and have seen the band 5-7 times. Some people will NEVER get to see them and might have to wait months to find a copy of the new album. It sucks for them. Let's just ask the fiends in Europe and Japan how THEY feel... There were several reasons that the band (don't blame Michale just because he's the only one with e-mail access - this was a BAND decision) decided to go with Geffen. There's no reason it can't work out. I still have all the Misfits postcards from last time... I'll also send extras to anyone who can supply me with info on the latest Four Horsemen album, or whichever album from '94 had Chuck Biscuits on it. mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:08:47 -0400 From: dirt Subject: Collector's Here are the videos I have, including the year and approximate length. If you need more detailed information the discography section on Mark's www page has a detailed list of each of these shows. I don't have any original Misfit's media (12", 7", etc...) that I am willing to part with, so please limit inquiries to copies of video--thanx. * Coney Island, NY (1995, 29 minutes) * Stone Pony, NJ (1996, 75 minutes) * Danbury, CT (1996, 75 minutes) * Bethleham, PA (1982, 36 minutes) * Creepy Compilation (1983, aprox 2 hours)--includes the "Why Be Something You're Not," "Goleta," "Braineaters Promo," and "Channel's Club," shows. My version also has the "Eagle's Lodge" show on it. * Skulls promo (about 3 minutes) * Halloween promo (about 3 minutes) * Braineaters promo (about 3 minutes) * Eagle's Lodge (1982, 13 minutes) (A little better than the Creepy Comp ver) * Bookies (1981, 27 minutes) I can currently fit about 120 minutes of video on each tape. I only copy at SP and use high quality tape because the majority of Misfits videos are poor quality (that is the old ones, the new ones are pretty good). It's $15 per tape. Look at the times, and send me a list of what you want [try to use up the entire 120, 240, or 360 minutes--I'll put parts of shows on as filler if you want, so you get a full tape of video (just dont specify specific songs--I don't have that much free time)] and your address with the money. I will accept cash or money orders, (usually 2-4 weeks turn over). Any additional questions: E-mail me. If you have a video that is not part of my list, I will definately buy from or trade with you. I also am interested in any Samhain, Negative Approach, Gwar, Black Flag, and Necros videos. I am also open to any other interesting trades. Thanx Nick Veauthier aka "dirt" e-mail: misfit@imperium.net 2561 Romig Road APT 14 Akron, OH 44320 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:28:34 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #242 ThisguycomesuptomeandstartsaskingaboutmyredtrucksoIhadtofuckhimup Greg is an honors student. Greg is an honors student and he listens to the Misfits. Greg is saying that it is ok to get good grades and listen to the Misfits. Greg is wrong. To be even in the top half of your class is a disgrace to all punks around the world. Call me and lets discuss it. My # is 1-317-214-2860. FUCK YOU. Wes"Anyone want pictures of me taking a bath when I was 3?"Thomas P.S. It is a real # and when you call ask for Uncle Sebastian. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:51:41 -0400 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: State College show Hi - First off, I noticed that a few people still are asking for old Misfits videos. Well as always, I am still making copies of the Creepy Compilation and the *Bible-only* "Evil is as Evil Does" compilation. These videos are two hours long apiece and are easily some of the best quality stuff out there. I've been providing this service to Misfits Bible members for about a year and a half now, so rest assured that I know what I'm doing... Each video costs a mere $10 ppd each (US only - foreign fiends write for rates) and you can get your own copy(s) by sending your address and payment to: Brent Eyestone 478 East Beaver Ave Apt 211 State College, PA 16801 Questions, etc ---> (814)861-8240 Now on to something else... I've been getting a lot of email about this, so let me make it clear - the Misfits are not playing at Penn State, they are playing in downtown State College at the Crowbar (NOT ON CAMPUS). For those of you travelling to the show, I must warn you that if you are under 21, the space provided for you is incredibly small. It's about the size of a small dorm room and so naturally, you can expect to get hurt (especially since Dave Wells just loves to oversell as much as possible). If you are over 21, you are allowed in the upper portion of the bar and you should be able to see things fine. Simply put, if you are under 21 and headed to State College on October 29, you run the risk of getting hurt (the bouncers love to beat ass at the drop of a hat) and also the risk of not getting to see the band because of the limited space. Don't get me wrong, you will get into the club, but given that the club is on three tiers (upper level is 21+, middle/stage level is all ages BUT TINY, bottom level is all ages BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THE STAGE), chances are you're going to be stuck on the bottom level because it's the largest area. I'm not saying don't go to the show, I'm just saying don't be surprised if you feel ripped of by the Crowbar upon completion of the Misfits' set. Just as a side note, two years ago, this club was called "Tattoo," it was hot pink on the outside, and booked solely glam rock. Now we have the same management, just different agenda$. I just feel it's fair you should know ahead of time... Brent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:42:33 -0700 (MST) From: John B Perrin Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #242 like i said before, geffen is CORPORATE ROCK, now doesnt it seem funny that a PUNK ROCK BAND would stray from the stance that they take in their music about the world, i dont think it is jerry and doyle's decision, i think michale influenced them, he doesn't know shit. Pretty soon he'll be convinvcing JErry and Doyle to drop to their knees and suck the CEO of geffens dick, that is what being a punk band and signing with a record label with a CORPORATE history means. That is about the only ounce of respect that i have for glenn lies in that right there, he never strayed, either that or he wouldn't suck some CEO's dick to get there. as for the dude who said he was 28 and listening to the misfits when he was oh so young, get a life, and get off the listserv, i've no use to hear your fucking age, you are not old, you just think your old and with that comes thinking your wiser, wisdom doesnt come with age dude. CORPORATE ROCK IS WHAT PUNK DRIVES AGAINST, THEY DRIVE AGAINST THE ENTIRE CORPORATE WORLD, DO YOU ALL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:05:38 -0500 (EST) From: ww982@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #242 I wrote: >Sorry about all those "=" and "20"'s in my last post... Mark replied: >That sort of thing usually happens when you write your message in a >word processor [...] and then import it to your email account. Thanks. That's what did it. A question: how do I send in Misfit images to the Bible? Last issue Jordan Smith reported a Simpsons Misfits sighting... the use of the number 138. As many may remember, the last Simpsons special was a celebration of Episode 138... this is no mere 138 hoax, boys and ghouls, it's genuine Misfit Beef! For the love of God, one of the characters wears a smiling skull shirt (minus the chin... but, no Simpson characters have chins). Dorin Petre wrote: >hey, I'm an honors student... so are all my friends,and they like the >Misfits...Some are in the top 10% of their class. Well, keep up the good work and study hard. It just goes to prove my point: SMART KIDS LOVE THE MISFITS! What do you think "Mommy" is about? It's an honors kid who doesn't have any friends but his mom, and so he studies all the time 'cause the girls think he's all fucked-up, and then he goes out and MURDERLATES. Harold Jaffe wanted to know what Misfits songs people don't like. Well, here's mine: Rat Fink(I like the lyrics, though), Halloween 2(the Samhain versions better), and All Hell Breaks Loose. -Billy Vile "On a steel horse I ride/I'm wanted/Dead or Alive" -Danzig, from the song "Goodfunilovevil" on Danzing 5.1 ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: I have Blackacidevil Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:37:39 -0400 The radio station I work for just got a full lenght promotional copy of Blackacidevil. Unlike the first propmtional cd I got, this one has every song (10 of them) on it. The only thing it is missing is the cover sleeve. If you remember when I reviewed the first promotional cd I said it wasn't at all like any of his previous work and that I needed some time to get used to it. Well, I'm used to it and love the new songs much more than the three on the first promo cd. Yes, they are all still INDUSTRIAL. Another way of putting it is if Danzig and Filter had a baby it would sound like this record. I am not going to review every song, but here are the song titles: 7th House Blackacidevil See All You Were Sacrifice (My Favorite) Hint of Her Blood Serpentia Come to Silver Hnad of Doom :Version Power of Darkness Ashes Info on the record can be found at http://hollywoodrec.com/danzig Later, Mark Blackman I am still willing to pay top buck for any DESCENDENTS, AGENT ORANGE, SOCIAL DISTORTION vinyl. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:50:47 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Yuhnke Subject: no subject in particular... ok lesse, comments on the last bible... Joe Theuwhatever: I think your view on Glenn is a little harsh although I agree with most of it. Yes I am one of those kids (21) who got into the 'fits because of metallica, I was 12 years old and freaking my parents out listen to those 'horrible' songs, saw Danzig in '89 loved them, I used to idolize Glenn but to me John Christ on guitar, Erie on Bass, and Chuck on drums were just as much Danzig as old Glenn boy... and after reading some shit in different Misfits FAQs I am now of the opinion that yes, Glenn Danzig IS a major asshole - but I have the sensibility to realize that without him there would not be a Misfits, but more importantly THIS IS A MISFITS SIG - GLENN IS NO LONGER INVOLVED THEREFORE DISCUSSION OF HIM IS NOT RELEVANT, thank you Rick McClinton & Brian Cox: You two both made very good points, however; next time be a little more concise and to the point, I'm wearing out my space bar skipping through your 6 page posts... ;) LegioN: Wow, it's refreshing to hear someone admit to such a lack of originality, so basically you sound like a hodge podge of everybody else? (sorry I know that's dickish, just couldn't resist) J Gellis: I think you're a little off base but hey that's your opinion, NOW THAT MISFITS ARE MAJOR LABEL ARE ALL YOU 'REAL PUNKS' GONNA UNSUBSCRIBE TO THE BIBLE? Please do... btw, if your so punk why are you using AOL? *coughed* loser.... get a real ISP or is unix too difficult? Mark: what size envelope did you need for the postcards? a small one? no wait a medium one? shit I can't remember ;) and yes I am still looking for a bass player and lead guitar for my (shall I say it?) 'punk' band in the Phoenix area and I will keep fucking posting this til I have settled on permanent members... peace and love, (oh shit wrong sig) I mean fuck you all (that's better...) JJJJJJ A SSSS YY YY NNN NN JJ A A SSS S YYYY NN N NN J JJ AAAAA S SSS YY NN N NN JJJJ AA AA SSSS YY NN NNN @Primenet.com "All? NO - ALL!" -The Descendents ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:01:39 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: misfits tribute 7" okay, i REALLY am ready to concentrate on the misfits tribute 7" EP that i promised doing a couple months ago. so far, i have only had a few submissions, so if you sent me an e-mail message and haven't sent anything yet, this is for you! Submissions must be received by me by FRIDAY, NOV. 15. i can only put up to 6 bands on the EP if the songs are short. right now, i've decided on two bands definitely. if you wanna be on it, get off your ass and send me a tape. i'll listen to it and if i like it, i'll ask you for a DAT of the tune and all the credits and whatnot. this project is coming outta my own pocket, so if you want people to hear your band, you'll never get another chance like this again, cuz i give enuff shit away for free with my own band, ADAM WEST. by the way, ADAM WEST will not be on the EP; this is for the bible listers. i'll probably press 300 on colored vinyl and sell 'em for $4 postpaid. what a fucking deal! now get moving! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net:80/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:20:15 -0700 From: KLRWLF Subject: Enough Already!!! Hey feinds, I think all of us are sick of hearing about the Geffen Signing already!! I know it's related to the Misfits, but when so many posts are about your opinion of the fits signing to Geffen, I wonder if the name should be changed to the Geffen Bible. I think it's about time we stop talking about this now!! We have read just about every opinion possible on this subject. When someone posts about it, chances are, we have already heard what they have to say. So let's cut this shit out of here!!! Greg.....thanks for the picture of what the MB shirt will look like!! I'm sure everone will be happy with it, I thought it looked Great!! R.I.P. KLRWLF ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:48:32 -0400 From: Rick McClinton Subject: some responses > From: "Whittle, Patrick R." [snip] > does michaele graves think he's doing us a favor by doing this? that's > what it sounded like. WE DON'T WANT "BIG TOURS", THE SMALL VENUES YOU > ARE PLAYING NOW ARE FINE!!!!!!!!!! First you say they won't get new fans by signing to Geffen, then you say they will play in big arenas? Hello? The 'Fits won't book places they don't stand a chance of filling! I think Geffen's distribution and advertising are likely to pick up at least a couple people who like the idea. > From: JGellis100@aol.com > The Misfits were a " PUNK ROCK " band from Lodi, New Jersey. > Punk Rock! Did you ask them? I think they were outcast in every society. > Those two words held a great meaning once. Fine! So the Misfits sign with > Geffen, but think about what will happen if they go on MTV. > All of a sudden you will start to see those high-cut trendy shirts with The > Chrimson Ghost or a Misfits label printed on them. Next, Skater( > cock-rockers, the destroyers of punk, stupid ass faggot fuck ups who don't > know shit about it's true meaning but spike their hair and say their > hardcore) with Misfits shirts and ( I hate this so much) Misfit skateboard > decks? Little kids with devil locks not knowing the true meaning or feeling > put into years of hard work and musical talent, but saying their cool because > of their new ( now trendy) hairstyle. THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED!!!! Skaters wearing crimson ghost shirts were around MY high school in 1986! We all know 'Fits skate decks were out before that! Samhain had a BIG skate rat following! Thrasher Magazine covered all kinds of punk rock stuff! They could even be blamed for spreading the word... What the hell is 'high cut trendy' anyway? Izod Lacoste? Don't fuck with little kids with devilocks! Maybe they just _WANT_ to learn! You weren't BORN with all those Misfit albums in your hand, you know. > Remember that Marylin Manson song, " > Sweet Dreams" ? Well its been made into a techno/rave song, MTV has made > trendy motherfuckers listen to it and going around saying its the coolest > thing. Whats next a " MOMMY... " techno song. AGAIN meaning lost. "Marilyn Manson song"? How much do you exactly know, and have you ever heard of the Eurhythmics? A "Mommy" techno song would be cool, maybe I'll do it just to annoy you! > D.I.Y. whatever happened to that,? Its pretty much a lost art. The > music that inspired and moved a cult following will be lost forever. DIY is alive and weller than you know. The fact is that the fringe has moved farther out. DIY is alive and well in ALL KINDS of stuff, from blues/country to that techno you seem to despise. DIY is so big now you can't tell sometimes. > Who were the Misfits really? Glenn Danzig, Jerry Only ( and Manny ) > Just a couple of " Punk Rock" guys from Lodi, New Jersey. Well i think the > new Misfits ( NOT EVEN THE REAL MISFITS)are bullshit the only real one > is Jerry, ( Doyle kinda ) ROBO's not a real Misfit? "Doyle kinda" my ass he was in the band with Glenn. The Misfits are a group which, under the leadership of Glenn Danzig, went through a number of members and style changes until Glenn decided he did not want to continue under the name. After a long time, two of the members of the band at that point received permission to continue on under the name Glenn abandoned. Would it help you if you thought of the 'newfits' as a Misfits cover band with permission to use the actual name? That included two original members? >I've heard some of their new stuff and thought it > was pretty weak. Lets face it, although most of you hate him, Glenn wrote the > songs. It was his words. See what you love destroyed or fight to keep whats > left. Do what ever you can. Twat rock = skate rock. SKaters and people who > watch rancid, green day and mtv are not PUNK ROCK> Doesen't mean they can't like a certain record when they hear it. You generally sound very jealous of something or another. What exactly is being destroyed? Dreams? Your little punk rock pity party? Your exclusive "Members Only" status? MY records still sound the same, thank you, and the recordings are the part about the Misfits that I like the best. What exactly are you going to fight? > P.S. IDEA why not make Misfits Videos ( o.k. idea ) but make them available > to fiend club members only and no one else that include moron television, and This happened already, too! Misfit Videos were (practically) available only to people who read classified ads in Maximumrocknroll! I do believe 1. Glenn was right to end his involvement with the name "the Misfits". His evolving style was going too far from what he had done under the name 'Misfits'. If I'm feeling real picky I might argue he should have dropped "Misfits" before Earth AD and Wolfsblood. 2. I agree that the Misfits were Glenn's brainchild and he not only wrote very interesting lyrics but was able to sing them with power and conviction that are rarely matched. 3. You already know you don't like what you've heard of the latest Misfits. I'm not so lucky, I haven't heard any yet, so I don't know. But I doubt that I'll start screaming about skateboarders and MTV and corny stuff like that even if I think the new stuff sucks camel dong. "Settle down, Beavis!" is about the best advice I can give you. > From: "Dorin M. Petre" > > I thought the pick slide sounded good, Nick.. Definately pick slide. > Same with "somnambulance" in NOTLD. Means walking in your sleep. I've heard this word many other places. I _REALLY_ don't think it's made up. "If we've sold out -- then where's the money?" appears on my yellow vinyl Government Issue record, on the vinyl right next to the label. hey, is there a technical term for those words scratched next to the label? CU Fiends, Yes its a long post. Rick McClinton You'll get over it. rmcclint@tmac.com I even edited it down. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:04:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Webb Subject: blackacidevil anyway, if you haven;t heard:industrial. the whole thing sounds like nine inch glenn. the firat song, 7th house, is older ministry. fast as shit, i like it. blackacidevil sucks. it's a heavy new order song. sacrifice is the best song on the album. you can actually hear glenns vocals and it comes crashing in at points. come to silver is really good. it was the johnny cash song. you can hear the country "im the one" feel, but its covered with distorted vocals and heavy NIN sounds. wierd, but i like it. power of darkness. didn't skinny puppy do this song in 1990? i thought so. ashes....well maybe this is the best song. NO distorted vocals. the music sounds like NIN's closer a bit, but glenn's voice is the beat i ever heard it on this one. overall: i like it. it isn't your standard glenn power album where the voice carries you through. in fact in a couple songs (blackacidevil) you can't hear the man's voice at all. some songs are industrial just to be industrial (serpentia), but what can you do. there are some real jewels on hear, IF you like (and it's a big if) industrial music. it's a lot more techno sounding than deep...and i thought that was off the beaten path. all of the semi danzig fans would be wise to borrow a copy of it before you shell out $$$$ also, no white devil risin which dissapointed me. ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: New Misfits Songs on Cassette Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:20:21 -0400 I just got a cassette I ordered from someone from the Bible. It is a complitation of the four new Misfits songs they played during their Spring/Summer tour. They are from live shows but the quality is much much better than I was expecting. Supposedly, the songs were recorded from teh sound board and then doctored up as much as possible. Its nice have a collection of the songs to hold me over until the new album. Here are the new songs. Blacklight (6 different recordings) The Hunger (5 different recor