Misfits Bible, Number 271 Wednesday, December 18th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #270 last ish and shit Re: Misfits Bible, #270 'fits vids Cough Cool tes777(tammy) and bobby, i mean really?lol Bobby or Blag? my top 5? here U go... UFC/short jokes stuff re: Will the REAL Fuad Ramses please... Am I the only person that knew about this??? "SACRIFICE" single released today (12/17/96) Kinghorse and Glenn chicken bobby Re: Misfits Bible, #267 It's been too damn long dammit Top 5 songs.. Again Choad, what the hell is a choad... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:18:47 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #270 From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) MERRY CHRISTMAS FIENDS ! ! ! This'll be my last post this week - gotta get ready for the big day . . . sharpening my axe. Nothing like Santa roasting on an open fire. Come see TIMES SQUARE this SUNDAY, 12 / 22 at the CONTINENTAL (CORNER THIRD AVE / SAINT MARKS PLACE) 11PM FREE ADMISSION - 21 OVER (I think), but you can always watch from outside through the big front window BTW GENERATION RECORDS, NYC has several MISFITS boots in stock, including SHOCKING RETURN ($21.00) >From: Stephen Gorny >Subject: Re: issues? > For that matter, have you ever >heard any OLD Beatles (before their recording contract)? 4 guys in >leather who were closer to a punk band than anything else. I have some of that stuff. They were raw. They wre crude. They stole shit, burned a club down, dressed in underwear and toilet seats. THAT'S PUNK ! ! ! I seem to recall an interview with Paul McCartney, back in '78/'79, where he said he had considered working with the SEX PISTOLS in some form. During the interview, his daughter was listenning to DAMNED DAMNED DAMNED. >From: blag jesus >Subject: whatever > >To KWard93399 and to Cecilia . . . . . . . did someone hear a fly ? >From: KLRWLF >Subject: Bobby....a Misfit!?!? >Bobby....not enough people say it here...but I'm glad you're with the >Bible....you're info often helps more than anyone elses. I don't see any >other Misfits members here helping out the fans!!???!! I don't have a life ; ) >....thanx Bobby! Thank you. >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:42:44 -0700 >From: wayne morris >Subject: (no subject) > >Forgetting the fact that >he is a martial-artist So he says. I've heard otherwise from one of his video directors. >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:47:11 -0330 (NST) >From: Stephen Warren >Subject: gem and the holograms > the villan band was called the misfits. Appropriately. It was odd that they were such a 'ruthless' band. They had a song called "Winning is everything". Whoever wrote that show really knew THE MISFITS. >does anyone else remember gem? I remember JEM. In the first issue of RIP magazine there's an article about them. >------------------------------ >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:56:20 -0330 (NST) >From: Shaun Young >Subject: question for bobby! >what do you think about when you hear other bands covering MISFITS >songs? >what do think when you hear that some pretty big metal bands have been >influenced greatly by the MISFITS? It's hard to describe. "Am I dreaming ?" pretty much sums it up. Just imagine how you might feel if you were in that position. The first time I saw a picture of Metallica wearing MISFITS shit, I was in shock. When they did LAST CARESS/GREEN HELL . . . I shit. Once I saw the likes of GENE SIMMONS, STEVE TYLER and JOE ELLIOT wearing MISFITS shirts - I knew I'd been right about this band all along. Then I saw a picture of one of the NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK wearing one . . . so I slashed my wrists ; ) >do you feel that the misfits made a large impact on the music industry? Sure. In fact, I know of a few people who have gotten large sums of money from record labels, to record demos, after claiming to have been the guitarist in THE MISFITS. >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:13:37 -0800 >From: mike inzerillo >Subject: Glenn's family??? >About two months ago I was in IRC and this guy came in there . . . He said that he was an old >friend of Glenn's, . . . the band was called something like Kinghorse, That's right. Glenn produced their LP on Caroline. I met some of them when I was in Louisville, KY in '90. >From: Geoff Wilson >Subject: HOLEE GEORGE LUCAS!!! > > Also, I just read something about some guy getting shot in >in the '60's! Coincidentally, he just happened to be the President... > > Maybe Bobby Steele knows something about all this... Let's get this straight. I have only been to Texas ONCE. I was in Dallas for 24 hours, but it was not in 1962. I was in school that day . . . probably serving detention - so I have an alibi. I've already discussed this with the FBI and the WARREN COMMISION (not to mention Oliver Stone). >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:10:20 -0500 >From: Tammy >Subject: Same old shithead, just another day.. > > Get it through your thick skull asswipe Bobby is here to stay . That doesn't look right. Punctuation changes everything. "Get it through your skull, asswipe, Bobby is here . . . . . . otherwise it sounds like your calling me an asswipe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:09:55 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last ish and shit first an announcement *** Important update your records accordingly *** Crimson Ghost othello@iag.net is changing to othello@magicnet.net PRH desdmona@iag.net is changing to desdmona@magicnet.net Bobby sed: >YOUR FIFTEEN MINUTES ARE OVER ! Where's my tape Bobby? you promised that and the rezillos what, 6 months ago? mike inzerillo >About two months ago I was in IRC and this guy came in there who I'd >never seen before, his nick was Vitus....He said Glenn's full name >is Glenniseppe Geppeto Anzalone. heheheh - yep and when he tells lies his dick grows into an angry red satan. not frank said: Blah Blah BLah - Glenn is god glenn is great pray to glen glenn never lies etcetera etc etc j/k come on Brett, Mark is only reporting what he is taking in. Don't accuse him of being biased. I think Mark is the most unbiased of us all. >as for my comments about you being biased or whatever, what I meant >specifically is that you seem to insinuate things Glenn has done, yet you >never seem to do the same about your good buddies Bobby and Jerry. I wish you could have been there in Mark's apartment when he and his roommate played "dead kings rise" for me, you would have changed your opinion. Look at it this way... What has Glenn done for Mark lately? The way I see it Jerry and Bobby are buttering Mark's bread. I really think he remains unbiased even with this influence though. I'd like to finish this up with something you should like Brett. Jerry Only - Ugly Things #12 - Summer 1993 "We got it all..." (referring to doyle & himself) "...If I was a big star I'd have to be on the road all the time, I wouldn't get to enjoy my family. So I gotta work a hard day - probably just as hard as driving from town to town and playing a three hour show - but at the same time I get to go home every night and sleep in my own bed, and watch my TV..." I guess he said this before he went on the road to pimp his band ALL SUMMER. ANd of course it must have also been said prior to that major label commitment. What's up with that anyway? What on earth was Danny Rey thinking. This man produced the Ramones' since Too tough to Die, inclusive, Not to mention producing the Waldo's (ex heartbreaker Walter Lure). Sounds like a career breaker to me. But then again they probably got some studio time and no advance money so what do they have to lose. just a thought...Jim Here's what Patricia has to say this week.... >Subject: TWENTY GUYS IN MY BED . . . >From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Gol Bobby! No wonder you've got a gimpy leg! ;P but you know, we'd both be dead if we were nearly the degenerates we pretend to be.... but I still fantasize about Wes Thomas imitating Blag Jesus H. Christ instead of Brad Pitt these days. as for Bobby's true and valid remark 'we knew the Glenn he wanted us to know' thats totally true. He had a different personality for every day of the week. Here's a funny (well, to me) story about his relationship with his family too-- Mommy Anzalone comes down to Danzigland in the basement and Glenn and I are drawing Kiss makeup (Gene Simmons, I recall) on a Cheryl Tiegs poster *hey, this was 1979 ya know* and she taps on the door "Glenn, do you and your friend want anything to eat?" I say no thanks and he YELLS at her 'Get the fuck out of here! We're TRYING to have FUN!' So I guess to call him disrespectful would be a little bit accurate. I also agree with AON-1's observation that ones ability to lie or fight has nothing to do with ones ability as a performer. but with all the recent Glenn bashing going on here, I'd like to throw this out to y'all-- since it seems to be chiefly a Jerry Only/Glenn Danzig war (who will win?)going on here, if you had the chance to meet and hang out with one or the other, whom would you prefer REALLY? I bet the Danzig camp wins like Clinton over Dole. C ya's Patricia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim - CG othello@magicnet.net Patricia - PRH desdemona@magicnet.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: markennedy Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #270 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:04:04 -0500 (EST) > From: Sexy Sadist > > Is it true Misfit's are playing New Year's in Ny? > Where?????????????/ The Misfits were going to do a show in Atlanta that night, but it was cancelled... rumor has it that they'll be playing somewhere, but I don't know where yet. > From: Frank Fama > Subject: Glenn-Leppard, Mark > > and as for the 99.9%....I've used that statistic before, why should it > surprise you now? And actually, I recall Bobby himself giving Glenn 100% > credit for the ideas of the Misfits a while back, and you didn't bat an > eye...at least not an eye that was visible to us subscribers. Well Bretto, perhaps it was because you seemed to be using it as a fact in your argument. I don't care about opinions and don't respond to them, unless they are presented as facts in which case I get suspicious. > and do i detect a note of sarcasm in the last line of your post? > if so, that's just the sort of thing i was talking about... Of course - specifically designed to show that I think Glenn is exaggerating, as you (and everyone else) knows he does. > He said in one "version" that people were attempting to stop the outbreak > of a fight; in the same breath he then also says quite plainly that the > D.L. guys "escaped" because they weren't willing to fight. That is what he > means in the "other" version when he says that he gave them the benefit of > the doubt, but wouldn't the next time because trey had shot their mouths > off with lies. Perhaps... but it seems odd to me. _________________________________________________________________________ VIOLENT WORLD - A Tribute To The Misfits Release date: February 11, 1997 _________________________________________________________________ Imagine mixing Metal, Hardcore, East and West Coast Punk, Krishnacore and Vegan Straight Edge with the outrageous b-movie horror fixation of the Misfits. You'd have the Violent World: a homage to one of the greatest punk rock bands ever by some of the best rock bands of the 1990's, bands that would not be the same today without the Misfits. Violent World consists of 14 never-before-released Misfits covers which were recorded exclusively for this record. Many of these bands, including Snapcase, Therapy? and Pennywise have added these versions to their live sets, futher preaching the Misfits' ever-growing legacy to new legions of fans across the country and around the world. The bands on this compilation chose what song to cover and with whom they would record it. They chose people like the legendary hardcore guru Don Fury, producer of CIV and Quicksand, who recorded both the Bouncing Soles and Sick Of It All tracks and Bill Stevenson of Descendents, All and Black Flag fame, who produced the Shades Apart track. Track List: Side 1 1. She - Snapcase 2. Astro Zombies - Pennywise 3. 20 Eyes - Shades Apart 4. TV Casualty - Tanner 5. Where Eagles Dare - Therapy? 6. London Dungeon - Prong 7. Death Comes Ripping - 108 Side 2 1. Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight? - Bouncing Souls 2. Ghouls Night Out - Goldfinger 3. Horror Business - Deadguy 4. All Hell Breaks Loose - Sick Of It All 5. Last Caress - NOFX 6. Earth A.D. - Earth Crisis 7. Return Of The Fly - Farside _________________________________________________________________ ASSORTED INFO: The album was produced by Tom Bejgrowicz who also produced the Misfits Box Set and Collection II. The album will be released in limited quantities of Orange, Green, and White vinyl, not to mention a permanent issue of black vinyl, and the usual CD and cassette. VIOLENT WORLD CONTEST Prize: A complete set of the "Violent World" colored vinyl, poster, postcard Match the following statements with the band it pertains to: * A. Snapcase * B. Pennywise * C. Shades Apart * D. Tanner * E. Therapy? * F. Prong * G. 108 * H. Bouncing Souls * I. Goldfinger * J. Deadguy * K. Sick Of It All * L. NOFX * M. Earth Crisis * N. Farside 1. This band can sometimes be found playing around town under the pseudonym of The Alleyway Crew. 2. A New Jersey band who wears their obsession with the 1980's movies like "Better Off Dead" on their sleeves. 3. Their first two records came out on the obscure indie label Wiija before being re-title and compiled for release in the United States. 4. Violent World features this band's first recording with their new guitarist whose predecessor has gone on to form his new band, Kite Eating Tree. 5. In support of their debut album, they opened up for punk legends the Sex Pistols, the Buzzcocks and Bad Religion. 6. Their politically and socially charged message has been featured on CNN and MTV. 7. Ben E. King's "Stand By Me was covered on an early 7" and is still a staple of their live set. 8. they've toured with fellow San Diego bands Rocket From The Crypt and Drive Like Jehu. 9. now broke up, the band played their final show ever at CBGB's this past year. 10. they have consistently worked with producer Bill Stevenson (current member of the Descendents and former member of All and Black Flag 11. The drummer auditioned for the Misfits while performing "Horror Business," "20 Eyes," and "Mommy..." with Jerry and Doyle. 12. Their singer/bassist has a license plate that says "Punk Guy." 13. released an album which has an employee of the band's label calling up Chinese restaurants and asking for "vegan chicken." 14. They've had songs rewored by Alex Patterson (Orb) and J.G. Thirwell (Foetus). Look for full page advertisements in the January '97 issues of Hit Parader, Alternative Press, and Warp. _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: MR BENJAMIN W BARNARD Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:17:05, -0500 Subject: 'fits vids I have a couple a' questions about videos..... First, Any-one possesing '96 boo...*cough* *cough*..underground videos.....obviously the Misfits are out there, but, has anyone taped Sardonica? I would like some, and have things to trade........ Second question: does anyone have the show from Wed May 1, 1996 at the 9:30 club? I would REALLY like a copy of this..... Somebody was taping from the balcony, but this may be a private video for the band or something. Any info is greatly appreciated...... Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon Dec 16 22:47:24 1996 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Cough Cool Hi- If anyone knows where I might find a boot copy (sorry I cant afford the original) of Cough/Cool either used or new let me know. Actually that or any boots with live or demos would be cool. Just so you know, I own the box set and every lp put out by the Misfits so I'm not ripping anyone off. I just want Cough Cool on vinyl. Is that so wrong? Well thanks bye. --- --------------==============================------------------ Got up this morning to make some coffee; Everything sucks today. allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:18:38 -0800 From: blag jesus Subject: tes777(tammy) and bobby, i mean really?lol hey tammy, since you are tight with mark, i guess you think you are the shit, oooh i soo scerred, chica, lol, dumbass, you guys can try to CENSOR me or not, but i can always find a way to come back, and if there is some body that likes the taste of shit, besides good ol' GG , then it is you tammy, because you sure like to feed on bobby's bullshit, and bobby you will always remain a lying loser always, and i guess no one likes or cares what i say when every day i get e-mail from many people who agree with me, they just dont feel like dealing with chumpos like Tammy and bobby the FORMER misfit, hey buddy, remember and always remember, Doyle will always blow you away when it comes to heart and soul, later choads..have a nice day :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:34:42 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Bobby or Blag? Tammy wrote: >Get it through your thick skull >asswipe Bobby is here to stay Bobby, did you see that? Tammy just called you an asswipe! :) The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: ahren@thesea.com Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:05:45 -0800 Subject: my top 5? here U go... 1. Children In Heat 2. Queen Wasp 3. Ghouls Night Out 4. All Hell Breaks Loose 5. Die, Die My Darling/Horror Business/Night Of The Living Dead (3-way tie!) This was actually quite difficult, 'cuz in my mind, there are only a few Misfits songs that aren't great, just good. And even fewer that aren't good, just average. Demonomania does suck, unfortunately. Hey, someone check with Blahg J. and make sure I got this list right, will ya? Thanks, guys. I finally found that Germs tribute CD...some interesting interpretations of Germs stuff on there. And I'm about to make a multi-CD purchase of some Japanese hardcore (next paycheck)...I listened to one called Return of Grasshopper and it was OK, but it sounded a lot like early Prong. Sheesh, talk about hangups, I still can't get over Tommy Victor dumping Prong just to play guitar for a year or two and then get kicked to the curb when Danzig wants a new sound to accompany his worn out lyrics. But that's ok, Glenn writes all of his own music. Yeah, ladies and germs, tonight we're proud to present Glenn Danzig and his left-hand path orchestra of bleeding light!!! Gimme a break. I mean, he's right fukin there, he's almost making new stuff, I even think he is...then I realize he's still fallin back on that sorry old shit. I think that if U compare DanzigV to ALL the other schlock out there, it's pretty good. But compared to his previous material, he hasn't progressed or changed like he would have us believe. By the way, I can't believe the people at Disney/ Hollywood let him talk to anybody who writes for a magazine. He says the most ridiculous stuff. One of these days it's going to catch up with him. With the fiends, most of it already has, since we've all been along for one part of the trip or another, in some fashion. And to piss me off, some American movie/video company bought the rights to a great horror/gore/dark humor from Europe called "Dellamorte, Dellamore" and retitled it "Cemetary Man". What oxygen wasters. How incredibly retarded. Totally limp. OK, I'm done now. GG rules. ------------------------------ Date: 17 DEC 96 11:25:22 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: UFC/short jokes Geoff Wilson said - > Glenn will be entering the UFC XI, which is taking place on January 7, 1996. His first opponent will be Don Knotts." I thought his first round fight was going to be with Emmanuel Lewis, you know, the kid who played Webster!? Did any of you guys ever see Willow (the movie by George Lucas)? I could have sworn I saw Glenn playing one of the Peks.... ok, enough of the short jokes but put this in your pipe and smoke it, if Glenn grew an inch a year from now till he turns 50, he'd still be shorter than me!!!! AZ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:38:35 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: stuff mark, do you happen to know if Samhain planned to redo "die die..." for Samhain IV? or any other fits tunes for that matter... they were awfully fond of that song live. btw, it would be cool to see Tammy's bootleg articles on your page... steele: when and why did you start playing the geetar? 138 quoted: > "Snoochie Boochie Noochies.........." Jay "i'm gonna screw your g/f in a very uncomfortable place..." "you mean like the back of a volkswagen?" ryq ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:11:53 -0500 Subject: re: >Hmmmm...i believe you WERE a misfit....and your ass was spanked out of it.... then bobby said: >Get your facts straight. I know you've been here for a while - so you've >had the opportunity to read the facts. I'm not gonna argue it any more. well, bobby as of now...you're not in the misfits anymore...did i miss something? allroy said: >anyway as far as political lyrics check out: We Are 138 (loss of >the individual in the future/present), Cough/Cool (urban decay), Hate Breeders >(turning a person into an animal), Nike (nuclear race and masculinity), I >Turned into a Martian (classic cold war substitution of an alien race for the >'commies' in sci-fi), etc maybe it seems like that because that's what the movies are about but i seriously doubt glenn wrote them with politics in mind. Subject: Will the REAL Fuad Ramses please... In a drug-addled frenzy -- somebody wrote >I've started reading the bible and saw a question about if Bloodfeast 2 >had been made or not. >If I remember correctly the movie WAS made but the title was changed >to Blood Diner. I may be full of shit on this because I am going from >Memory. Sorry, but you are full of shit -- at least partially. After the success of "Bloodfeast" back in 63 or so, film folks came out of the woodwork to pester H.G. Lewis about making a sequel. "Blood Diner" DOES follow a similar theme, but it's not "Bloodfeast II" for official purposes. Though Lewis sold the rights to any gore related stuff years ago -- the sequel has STILL yet to be made. He's willing all right --- just waiting for the right studio to sign the check for the right amount --- oh, and the right script to boot! If you've got the cash -- the TRUE godfather of gore will rise from ... retirement to be at the helm of your film. To me, there's not sooo much H.G. influenced stuff in Misfits material. Other than the song "Bloodfeast, that is." His following "major" picture, "2000 Maniacs," is a far better piece of cinnie -- and worth a rental if you see it in your local capitalist video hole. "The Gruesome Twosome," "Moonshine Mountain," and his early t/a stuff is harder to come by -- but most vid stores should have "Bloodfeast," "2000 Maniacs" and "Color Me Blood Red" (a trilogy of sorts) -- almost by proxy. The TRUE film for any Misfits fan however, would be BLOODSUCKING FREAKS -- and would be mandatory viewing if I were king of the world. (Republicans would have to wear sheep costumes under my plan as well -- but that's another story..) Oh -- the medication's wearing off ... Satan loves you and so do I "Heterosexual's have the right to rock ... " --- The Mentors David Kramer Assistant Editor of Online Services Legal Communications, Ltd. Davidk@legalcom.com http://www.palawnet.com ------------------------------ From: OowahX2@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:16:22 -0500 Subject: Am I the only person that knew about this??? Did anyone else know about the limited (?) 12" vinyl only release containing four remixes of "Sacrifice"? I just picked up my copy (and an extra...) today. Three of the remixes are done by J.G. "Foetus" Thirlwell and the fourth one is done by Joseph Bishara. The album comes in a plain black sleeve with the center cut out to reveal the vinyl's label. It's pretty damn cool... ------------------------------ From: "S.D." Subject: "SACRIFICE" single released today (12/17/96) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:27:43 -0800 I'm sorry to all the people who tried to contact me in the last two weeks, but I've been working a lot. Please contact me again and leave a phone number if you call! The single for "SACRIFICE" was released today. I haven't picked up my copy yet, but I understand that it has two or three remixes of that song(I don't know if Danzig remixed them or other artists).I know all of you probably already know this info. but I thought I'd put it here anyway.. SCOTT P. I need your number again(if you still want the "I don't mind the pain" single) if you lost mine it's (360)357-8911. Remember this is the west coast so keep in mind the time zones!! Does anyone know who is opening up for MARILYN MANSON?? I keep looking it up on the ticket master computer, but they don't know!! until next time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BELIAL P.S. IF ANYONE HAS A BOOT OF THE MISFITS SHOW AT THE DV8 IN SEATTLE WASHINGTON, I WOULD LOVE A COPY!!!!! {VIDEO,CD OR CASSETTE} ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:23:31 -0600 From: mike thompson Subject: Kinghorse and Glenn About the guy who talked to "vitus" on IRC. I am a huge fan of Kinghorse and I know that Glenn produced their self-titled album on caroline. It is fucking amazing, you should pick it up. Anyways since it is true that Vitus knows Glenn you can probably assume the gossip concerning Glenn's family life is also fairly credible. Personally I don't give a shit. Also My Five Favorite Tunes: 1. Hybrid Moments! 2. Black Light 3. Horror Hotel 4. The Haunting 5. Vampira Lastly, The Horror Hotel digitally remastered video is Amazing. The picture is crystal clear and sounds great. The cover even folds open to show the original poster art. And after the movie is the original trailer, which shows how poor the picture quality was before remastering. Everyone should get this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:49:52 -0800 From: blag jesus Subject: chicken bobby i know some of you fucks have seen the movie "GG ALLIN and the Murder Junkies: HATED" well every time i see Chicken John, it reminds me of bobby steele, Chicken John is to GG, as bobby is to the Misfits, if anyone agress with me, go ahead and say something, but those who do disagree, i am pretty sure you morons will say something stupid, later guys, :) CHOADS!!! ------------------------------ From: CHaragan@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:06:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #267 who has misfits music for sale? any records. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:43:15 -0800 From: Deftone Subject: It's been too damn long dammit Alright, I haven't subscribed since around issues (60-100) due to lack of internet facilities. It comes out THREE times a week now???? damn.. anyways, I have some questions, opinions and related shit.. here goes........ Danzig Blackaciddevil. I just heard this in the record store yesterday and I did not like it at all. Seems like he was headed in a real good direction after 4p, his band quit, then he got some big 7 figure deal with Hollywood to put out an album and just tossed something together quick without putting together a great band. It's not BAD, just not at all what I expected. 4p had such a smooth produced sound but was still cool. To me this record is not worth buying. Oh well, one man's gold is another man's garbage. I do think that the new Tool is one of the slickest records ever though. They put a supergood show on their last tour too. Saw them here in Vancouver and they blew my stoned adolescent mind (actually I was sXe at the time.. that sure is a hard thing to keep up to one with little morals though. Been listening to too much Shelter/minor threat). Did max's Xmas album ever come out? What about any misfits stuff after the box set/collection 2 which I have? They in the studio or what? Misfits are on the bible??? Bobby, jerry, and michale? Cool. Anyone notice the similarity between the misfits logo and the old 'Mothers of Invention' album logo? Whoever here is in bands, play misfits tunes. It is your duty as a musician to play Misfits tunes on stage. When I played in a band (bass + vocals only on FEAR covers) we did 138, Teens from marz, skulls, Green hell, we bite, wolfsblood, NOTLD + we could do almost all the others, but not good enuf to be tight live. People go crazy for those songs. Whoever wrote them (won't get into that) is/was a fucking genius. Ohwell, that's enuf for now, my dorms give shitty chairs and my back is fucked from sitting at this damn computer for hours on end. Merry whatever. I just wanna fuck some slut FEAR I've got the voice of an entire generation (yeah right Mr Cappo) SHELTER ------------------------------ From: Sexy Sadist Subject: Top 5 songs.. Again Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:21:30 -0500 (EST) 1)Angelfuck 2)All Hell's 3)Hybrid Moments 4)Skulls 5) Blacklight (Only because chud's drum intro kicks ass and he rules.. it's also a good song) Honorable mentions: All of em' I think Bobby is cool Huh Huh The turtle closed down a while ago Bobby but they just opened for one show.. The Skabs from NYC came up.. it was awesome cause they are one of my favorites Anyone know these guys? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 00:54:56 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Choad, what the hell is a choad... Hello to all the fiends... First i will try to work out the details with Mark on getting the Misfits 101 stuff on Misfits Central. I think it's really important that you know what you are buying. Plus if you drop a large sum of money on a piece you know that what you have is real. Mark has told me that some of the boots are listed on there already, but i have a feeling that you guys want full descriptions of the origianls too. I learned the hard way about telling the difference between boot and orig. I figure on finishing out the 7"s and doing Beware here on the bible. Also i will kick in some rare stuff i have so you might take the chance to search some of this stuff out. Bobby, which one was the cheese crack as for the flames? the one that still sticks in my mind was Mark being Jerry and Doyle's little sister. Ken - 1) Happy one day early Birthday dear. 2) if you think i remember who got what Unholy Passion 12" you got to be crazy, i had 4 extra copies other than the two in my personal collection. i think you got the last extra too, though i would have to look. 3) to all the tape traders he is asking, the bootlegs are in good condition since most of them he bought from me and a friend of mine. I did ask my friend to day about Glenn's drivers licence, and he does not remember what the name was being that he saw it 6 years ago. Plus he was probably more interested in ther birthday year since that was an on going argument we had, that and Glenn's hair but that's another story. Ok, i have heard a lot of different things in my time, i know people from all the different islands off florida, one of my closest friends in high school was british plus i have traded with lots of europeans, and even japanese. but for g-d sakes man what the hell is a CHOAD!!! Mr. Warren i hate to break this to you but by the time Jem and Holograms where on the air and the dolls where being sold the Misfits where no longer a band for 2 years. plus its kind of funny that the show when it first started the group the Misfits only had three members, just like the was Evilive depicts the band on the 12" . as for the 7"s(this is also answering someones question) the fiend club 7"(ie # evilive) uses a live picture of the band and you can see the drummer. the reg. evilive was printed with either a lineart of Glenn, Jerry, or Doyle. 99 of those where made into a special three pack and all three 7"s autographed. I only know one person who owns one (he's not about to sell it if he's anything like the way he was back in the early 90's - plus he loved to taunt Kris Mclauchlan with it.) Greg No don't say anything about the we are you know. maybe it will just slip by and no one will post about it.;) Ben- you do have a boot, the black vinyl boot i have and described has BLANK 101-A OR B (depending on the side) and some other writing scratched out, but not what you posted. i'm not sure if it was regroved and if that can be done. but remember there are at least two different black vinyl bootlegs. the other clear vinyl which i no longer have and Ken has. Bobby, you might know the answer to if a record can be regroved!!! AZ didn't you know its a MORAL IMPERATIVE that we start a fan club for Rocky and Bullwinkle, life wouldn't quite be the same. Let's do a little Misfits 101... Three hits From Hell. well i do know of one bootleg of this and it looks kind of like the 3 hits sleeve(red and black) but they use the PLAN6. Alot of boots use that like the Spook City USA boot, the Horror Business, and a couple others. as for the Original:Front cover - Upper left hand corner has the Misfits using an ultra condenced form of Helvetica(if you don't know fonts or typography its a very tight and narrow formed letter). on the left side there is a bar of red from top to bottom (about 2 1/2" width). at the very bottom left hand side is the title 3 hits from HeLL. the right side has a wider black space which has photos of the band members eyes, Glenn, then Jerry(dead give away with the black under the eyes) the other two i don't even want to take a guess to list to this lot bitch for a month. each set of eyes is in a white rectangle which is off balance. back side: Upper left hand side has, a london dungeon; b horror hotel part of the skull and under that is ghouls night out, under that THE MISFITS using the same logo design from the previous 7"s. under that band members listing, Glenn DanZig JerrY Only; DoyLe ArThur GooGy ( that is the actual typesetting they used, same with the word HeLL from the 7" title) all this is over black, and next to it is a close up of a CG's face. you see the one full eye and socket, where the nose was a small part of the other eye socket, part of the upper teeth and some lines. under all this is a gradient set on a path, if you look closely at it its black dots on red and red dots on black depending where you look. text, left hand corner bottom in a black box with out dots xtra(red text) gtr on 'london dungeon' bobby steele; smaller black box recorded at MSP, ny; last one PL1013 and across from it on the right hand side is PLAN9(white text black box). Vinyl: first press is a grey label with large hole, up top is THE MISFITS(same design as the back of the sleeve), left side PLAN9; 45 RPM; Extended Play; Stereo. right c(in circle)& p; Hell - bent; music; PL1013 - A or B. Bottome side A 1. LONDON DUNGEON; small print Unauthorized duplication prohibited. side A on the right uses a different and sign plus the print is black on the grey label. Side B everything is the same except song titles 1. HORROR HOTEL; 2.GHOULS NIGHT OUT(NO SPACE BETWEEN PERIOD AND G). also the right side is now a black box used to invert the text to grey. Yes the insert and which i did forget to tell everyone about the one for NOTLD. 3hits has a close up of a real CG full face with big smiling teeth. it uses the fame Monster of Filmland logo Misfits which is on the very top above the eyes, fiend club is under that then the address PO Box 3112, Grand Central (lot of space since the nose hole is in the way) N.Y.,N.Y. U.S.A.; Station(this is under Grand Central); 10163. there is a fill out for the fiends to put their info in on its side far left towards the bottom. White vinyl three hits is the same as far as look except if you are lucky to get one of the black and white sleeves. This is the one think some people do not agree with me on but it is what i was told by Glenn. He made only 100 of the B&W sleeves since he got sick of the red and black, plus there are 500 white vinyl 7"s, it uses a large center hole, and a red label instead of the grey. mine is not a pure white vinyl and has some black streaks in it. Glenn pointed out the value as $150 - 175. though he almost hit the floor when he asked how much i paid for mine. this was out of luck $30 and three SST 12"s (that was how we got into the argument about SoundGarden). Reg. 3 hits should be $35 - 100. don't pay more that's nuts Real quick in the NOTLD insert - B&W full CG like Horror B. backround is B&W checkerboard, uses old Misfits logo fiend club under that address is 145 W. 27th st. 2E, N.Y.,N.Y. 10001. that's it for now, WHo Killed Marilyn on Friday. tes777(tammy) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Swedish Misfits tribute CD This time its personal... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markennedy Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #271 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 14:44:01 -0500 (EST) > From: R Hinojos > Subject: stuff > > mark, do you happen to know if Samhain planned to redo "die die..." for > Samhain IV? or any other fits tunes for that matter... they were awfully > fond of that song live. I don't think so. Basically, Samhain IV was going to be the 5 new tracks on Final Descent, plus the Samhain versions of "Twist Of Cain," "Possession," "When Death Had No Name," and "Trouble" or something along those lines. >From: > Did max's Xmas album ever come out? What about any misfits stuff after the > box set/collection 2 which I have? They in the studio or what? Max's Xmas will never come out, at least not in its current over-dubbed form. Misfits tribute Violent World LP comes out 2/11/97, Evilive on CD and Static Age separately in the near future. Misfits are currently in the studio for a few more weeks doing the new album. Looking for Bootlegs and stuff? Record Convergence in Fairfax VA has the following for sale: Who Killed Marilyn? bootleg 7" Spook City U.S.A 3 song 7" EP Last Gasp 7" EP (Samhain demos and stuff) Ghouls Gold 7" EP (one of 500) 3 Hits From Hell fake 7" EP Live '79 Perfect Crime! 7" (the best boot of them all) Return Of The Fly 7" (trenchcoat man cover) Cough/Cool 7" fake Famous Misfits of Filmland 7" EP with 4 tracks Return of The Fly 7" EP (6 song version with fly on the cover) Evil Is As Evil Does 7" Danzig 7" EP (fake SubPop release with 3 demos) and the following 12" Eyes To Despise 2LP super bootleg with 3 or 4 Misfits shows Evilive German 12" $24 Record Convergence; 4005 Chestnut; Fairfax, VA; (703) 385-1234 mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:20:34 -0500 From: markennedy Subject: Assorted Junk Hey Fiends - I need some help for my Misfits discography. Does anybody out there have the Rat Music For Rat People compilation LP from the eearly 1980s? I need more info on this. Also, does anybody know if the version of "When The Shit Hits The Fan" on the Circle Jerks' Golden Shower Of Hits LP is the same as the version with Chuck Biscuits on the RepoMan soundtrack? mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:13:52 -0500 From: greg Subject: violent world contest who or where do i send my entry into the violent world contest? thanks. greg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:40:40 EST From: "Whittle, Patrick R." Subject: top 5/king horse my top five fits tunes are: 1.) last caress 2.) bullet 3.) static age 4.) where eagles dare 5.) we are 138 as you can tell i'm into the original shit the most. what kind of music is king horse? i've seen the name in my metal disk catalogue. all i know its it's produced by glenn. so i dunno if it's metal, punk, industrial, just plain ole' indie rock or what. patrick the poughkeepsie fiend "this isn't really death this isn't really life, this isn't really anything i think i like"* *- honorable mention for spinal remains...and braineaters...and mommy... ------------------------------ From: KWard93399@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:08:42 -0500 Subject: "Beer beer we want more beer!" - The Macc Lads Subject: what is a choad? well tammy(tes777) YOU are a choad, every body stand up and give a nice round of applause to bobby steele, FINALLY BOBBY FINALLY!!!!!!!! BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ HAVE A NICE DAY:) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:39:58 -0700 From: horrorkid Subject: whats-his-name! -- Alright here goesI will probably catch hell for this but ,I think everyone is coming down too hard on Glenn. I mean I dont buy his music because he is a star citizen or a jeet-kun-do wielding guitar master. I buy it because I enjoy it. I will say that I Have shit-loads more respect for JERRY and DOYLE than I used to but then I have only recently discovered this wealth of information.I cant wait to hear their new shit!! Any way like I have said before JERRY RULES!! I STILL HAVE THAT MISFITS TAPE FROM 83 WITH NECROS BLACK FLAG AT BUFF HALL IN I THINK ARIZONIA . HORRORKID!!!wolfsblood is fuckin in my veins!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:08:17 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: D-Rod Rises Again hello Fiends, =09A few thoughts here: >From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) >Come see TIMES SQUARE this SUNDAY, 12 / 22 >at the CONTINENTAL(CORNER THIRD AVE / SAINT MARKS PLACE)11PM >FREE ADMISSION - 21 OVER (I think), but you can always watch from ou= tside through the big front window YES! Everyone must see Times Square! I had the pleasure of watching= them rehearse, and hanging with Dave Ari, and Jill Matthews when Bobby and= Dave played with the zero Prophits and they were just good people. Watchi= ng them rehearse was amazing they were right on on everything even they = were just expirimenting. And though I know some of you dont know this Bob= by does share some of the vocals with Jill so that is always cool to see= . And if you do go Jill said if I went that she would jump down and do anyt= hhing I want! So just go and tell her that I said you are taking my plac= e , if I am not there. >BTW GENERATION RECORDS, NYC has several MISFITS boots in stock, >including SHOCKING RETURN ($21.00) They are all 21 bux they also had a boot that is called the 12=94 or sumthin like that that has the die die cover and has die die, evilive= and earth ad on it.=20 >From: blag jesus >Subject: tes777(tammy) and bobby, i mean really?lol >bobby you will always remain a lying loser always, and i guess no one >cares what i say when every day i get e-mail from many people who agree >with me, they just dont feel like dealing with chumpos like Tammy and >bobby the FORMER misfit, hey buddy, remember and always remember, Doyle >will always blow you away when it comes to heart and soul, later= I dont know why I am giving you the time of day, but after hanging with Bobby this weekend I cant let you bash this man. I still think that I like Doyle better then bobby in the fits but that is just me. the undead and Times Square is where Bobby belongs. But there is no doubt that Bobby is a skilled guitar player. I had the pleasure of playing a little guita r with Bobby and the way he does stuff is a amazing and comparing his guitar to doyles there is no doubt that he is more skilled then doyle. Not that his sound is perfect for the fits but he is legit! And to call him a liar! Bobby Steele has proof for everyday of his life almost he has a mountain of info on everything. If any of you ever get to hang with Bobby you will see. I wish we knew who you were Blag cause I am sure Bobby would be happy to school you on a thing or two. After hanging with Bobby for the weekend I have changed from one who = always said =93 Boobby quit your bitching=94 he has valid gripes with Jerry= . Does this mean that we have to pick side, NO! But we need the facts,= thats it. I am sure that if there is anyone here who doesnt want the misfi= ts to fall on there faces it is Bobby. He believes in the fits always has,= that is why he has all the memorabilia from them. One he will get his and= oh it will be grand. If there is one person you should route for in this w= orld it is Bobby Steele. >From: David Kramer >Subject: Will the REAL Fuad Ramses please... >Lastly, The Horror Hotel digitally remastered video=20 YES! Of all the crappy flicks I watched while making the B-Movie Mad= ness tape this was favorite! Also I am desperatly looking for 2 items: Unholy passion or Initium cassette with unholy passion on it ( not t= he cd just the cassette) And the Undead invisible man 7=94 (Bobby wouldnt give me his!) thanx D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:23:39 +0000 From: sean barron Subject: top 5 1 hybrid moments 2 brain eaters 3 attitude 4. where eagles dare 5 horror hotel married punks#9 big interview with jerry black and white photos jerry and michale on the cover $1.00 dollar send to chimp west p.o. box 713 eureka ca 95502 if ant one gets this can you tell me what the pictures are from its the group at a table jerry and doyle are sitting and the table is covered in skulls ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:04:23 -0500 Subject: re: >Forgetting the fact that he is a martial-artist < Subject: Nothing to do with the Misfits Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 05:10:57 -0000 Did someone quote the Mentors. I thought their evilness was confined. The Mentors, the god damned Mentors if you never heard them you gotta check them out, they put GWAR to shame in their wonderful wicked content. Shane "Leave you for the buzzards"-The mentors ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:39:00 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Wilson Subject: Blag Jesus is Cthulhu! Hey everyone -- Did anyone notice, on the "THE SHOCKING RETURN" cd, at the end, you can hear Doyle say, "Blag Jesus is an asshole fucking cunt?" I just noticed that today, and thought I'd mention it... I won't be able to access my account for a few weeks, so happy holidays to everyone here at the MB! ------------------------------ From: "scooter" Subject: Re: Top 5 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:23:34 -0000 here's my ten favorites: 1-Last Caress 2-I Turned Into a Martian 3-Hybrid Moments 4-Angelfuck 5-Astrozombies 6-Hatebreeders 7-Devil's Whorehouse 8-Halloween 9-Where Eagles Dare 10-Horror Hotel ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:10:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #271 whats up fiends? I'm just posting to let every one know my top 5 songs: 1). Hatebreeders 2). Astro Zombies 3). Wolfsblood 4). Hybrid Moments 5). TV Casualty ok thats about it. pretty stupid post right? see ya. Devils are born in angels arms. Tom Undermine GogmaGod Records Rd 1 box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, NY 12592 ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:16:34 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #271 Anybody here of the band "Texas is the Reason"? I saw their name in a list of chicago shows and figured they had something to do with the misfits. to all mallrats/clerks quoters: " " -Silent Bob -GRRRReg- -http://homepage.interaccess.com/~ols- ------------------------------ From: "VAMPIRA" Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:30:18 GMT-4 Subject: Top five and the CG First I'd just like to add my 2 cents about CG. It seems to me that every time somebody says something you don't like or is of a different opinion than yours you get pretty hostile. Now I know you has been around here for a long time and you knew the guys in the band back in "the day", but I dont understand why you get so greasy with a bunch of people you don't know for shit. I mean think about it for a sec, these are people in other parts of the world mouthing off to a computer screen and you take it so seriously. Settle down for a bit and instead of spewing the shit you spew contribute something we would like to hear, like stories about what it was like back then and stuff. Believe it or not some people do appreciate stuff like that. C'mon, do you talk like that around your child? You sit at your keyboard and make fun of people's grammer and call them cocksuckers and stuff and it is just juivenile. I know you will probably grease me for this but you calling me a fag and making fun of my grammer just doesn't cut it. I wont be offended or insulted so don't bother. And I know a lot of shit people say is exactly that, but just ignore them. If we igonre them they will just go away. Anyways, here are my top five tunes 1. Hybrid Moments 2. Last Caress 3. Children in Heat 4. The Haunting (may be higher when I hear a studio version) 5. Astro Zombies Also, does anyone know if there will be any legal trouble with releasing a song called "Mars Attacks" seeing how there is a big budget movie now and (in most likelyhood) an official soundtrack? Just curious. And if anyone was in attendace at the show in Germany where shocking return was recorded, could you tell me if that guy who said "fuck glenn danzig" and that other stuff was singing along on a lot of the tunes. Maybe it is my imagination, but it seemed to me that I could hear a german accent in the background for a lot of the songs. Also, about the Shocking Return CD, I find that Michales voice is better now. I have a recent vid and you can notice a difference. Anyways, I gotta run. Later Roger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:00:51 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Fama Subject: freak out freak out WARNING: LONG MESSAGE ABOUT TRIVIAL JUNK OF INTEREST TO ONLY A FEW SUBSCRIBERS...AT BEST. > From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) > >Forgetting the fact that > >he is a martial-artist > So he says. I've heard otherwise from one of his video directors. guess that wasn't the guy who shot the video of him practicing Jeet Kune Do that appeared on "The Box" a couple years ago. Or the guy who took photos of him with Jerry Poteet, his trainer (who was Bruce Lee's student), that appeared in Ray Gun Magazine (? - actually I think it was Bikini magazine; I can't be bothered to check, though I remember it also had Jean Claude Van Damme in it) > From: Crimson Ghost > not frank said: > Blah Blah BLah - Glenn is god glenn is great pray to glen glenn never lies > etcetera etc etc j/k actually, CG, you misquoted me there...you see, I always spell Glenn's name correctly, and I use proper punctuation. But otherwise you got the gist of it. (...that is sarcasm) > come on Brett, Mark is only reporting what he is taking in. Don't accuse > I wish you could have been there in Mark's apartment when he and his > roommate played "dead kings rise" for me, you would have changed your > opinion. Look at it this way... What has Glenn done for Mark lately? The way > I see it Jerry and Bobby are buttering Mark's bread. I really think he exactly my point: I wasn't there in Mark's apartment when he played that, nor were most of the 900+ people on this list. And again, I say, exactly my point: Glenn hasn't done anything for Mark lately. That's why he gets slagged so much on here. Maybe he did cheat the Misfits. Maybe he does lie. But hearing from only one party over and over again kind of makes you wonder...I said something similar to this to Mark once, and he said that Glenn is defended on the Bible whenever I or EVB or whoever posts. Well, unfortunately I don't speak with Glenn on daily basis, like Jerry does with Mark (okay Mark, I'm not being literal when I say daily, but you should get the point). And from what EVB has said, Glenn doesn't seem to go out of his way explaining his past quarrels to her so that she can post his reply. The reason? Maybe it IS because everything Jerry etc says is true, and Glenn has no defence. But maybe it's because it all happened 15 friggin years ago and the guy has got other things to worry about than whether or not some little punks on the internet want to worship him or not. Notice that Glenn rarely talks about the Misfits in interviews. His only comment is usually something like "that's all in the past and it's no longer relevant" My whole point with Mark was this: don't insinuate things, just say them. Or, if you ARE going to insinuate (or outright state) these things, at least do it about the other members too. You just pointed out one instance in which Mark apparently had the chance to do so but didn't. (Judging by your comments, I take it that that song "Dead Kings Rise" sucked...?) Anyway, if you aren't going to do either of the above, the only alternative that I see is to no longer claim to be unbiased. I know Glenn is a human, with errors, flaws, foibles, whatever. But he is the ONLY guy in the Misfits, Samhain, and Danzig that doesn't have a say in what is going on here. (okay, so Chuck Biscuits and one or two others have never posted...but you get the point) > I'd like to finish this up with something you should like Brett. BTW I have nothing against Jerry...or any other Misfit. I met Jerry once and he was extremely nice. That's all I can say about him, so I'm not going to attempt to discern his role in events that happened when I was 5 years old. Whatever beef Bobby or anyone else has with him, Glenn, or anybody, is no longer my concern, nor should it ever have been. For some reason, I used to be interested in all that crap, but over the past several months I realized it's all a useless waste of time. (something that only one of the members involved has also realized - I'll leave it to you to guess who). Notice also that over that period of time I haven't posted nearly as much as I used to. (until now it seems) > From: markennedy > > and as for the 99.9%....I've used that statistic before, why should it > Well Bretto, perhaps it was because you seemed to be using it as a fact > in your argument. I don't care about opinions and don't respond to them, > unless they are presented as facts in which case I get suspicious. Mark, I couldn't use that as a fact even if I had intended to. Neither I nor anyone else could truly quantify something like creativity, unless one person did ABSOLUTELY everything. The 99.9% was used to show that he did the vast majority of the writing, artwork, etc. (can anyone deny *that* FACT? Bobby sure didn't -- and he was there) Anyways, I doubt that anyone read my message and said to themselves "gee, right there on the screen it says that Glenn did 99.9% of the stuff in the Misfits, whereas previously I had thought it was 74.3%...I guess my *facts* were mistaken!" Mark, you know I wasn't trying to attack you or anything, but even you must admit that you tend to imply things about Glenn while remaining completey silent about Jerry. (okay, I guess you won't admit that...) That's all right. I never intended to have a federal case out that comment, it was only a friendly little complaint...Let's say that I was trying to point out an...*oversight* Regardless, I think I have wasted enough time trying to clear up my intentions. I knew I should never have gotten involved in that stupid Def Leppard argument. Just for this, Vivian Campbell is REALLY going to get his ass kicked if I ever run into him. I could do it... -brett "chico, somting happen to dis message, somting gonna happen to you, meng." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:55:15 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #271 I'd like to give my total support to BLAG. Fox is thinking of coming out with a new show to compete with MTV called Jesus and Butthead. (Forgive me God for that one.) censorship must be supported on all levels, and thus I have censored my own letter and shall not type what I truely wish to type. No one should be able to post more than once per MB. Except Tammy who shouldn't be allowed to post anything. WHOAWHoa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:01:10 +0000 From: ryq Subject: tab looking for TAB: all NEWFITS songs all UNDEAD songs all KRYST songs "life fades away" "night chill" "lords of the left hand" "tired of being alive" "bodies" (guitar riff) "sadistikal" "i don't mind the pain" "hand of doom: version" (danzig riffs) "power of darkness" "ashes" (piano chords) "don't be afraid" (lyrics, also) John Christ solo material BLACK ARIA UNEASY LISTENING ryq = hinojos@bluenote.aero.org ------------------------------ From: MR BENJAMIN W BARNARD Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:43:24, -0500 Subject: oderus I recently acquired a GWAR video from '94, and just before an encore, (of KISS') "Detroit Rock City", Oderus Urungus was heard to say "Glenn Danzig is a F(edited)G Faggot!" and begin to sing opening of "Mother".......I thought this interesting 'cause of all the talk about "alternate lifystyles" here on MB. So, Let's see......We have Bobby the homosexual, and Glenn the faggot. ...could it be that once one has played for the 'fits, they become.... ...you know....... I am pretty sure Oderus said it, (as he was at the mic movin' his lips), but one never knows about such things......... :) Oh, my top 5........1)Wolfsblood 2)Spinal Remains 3)All Hell Breaks Loose 4)Nike-A-Go-Go 5)All The Rest ........BEN ------------------------------ From: SOTWAmf@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:15:24 -0500 Subject: teenagers from mars This question is going out to all fiends I remember walking into the video store and hearing a SKA\the same way the Misfits played it version of TEENAGERS FROM MARS. I never heard it again playing there and it was really good. Has anyone ever heard it, and if yes who plays it? Also I have a copy of the original Director's Cut movie C.H.U.D. Back when it came out the director gave it to us. If anyone is interested e-mail me @ SOTWAmf@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Whooo0@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:32:52 -0500 Subject: i agree with Blag You know, i have been reading the bible thru a friend of mine and i keep seeing all these people slamming on this Blag guy, without wondering if he maybe right and Bobby may be the one who deserves the insults, I mean, Bobby WAS a misfit, he is no more, I saw the "Undead" play in Green Bay about 5 or 6 years ago and it turned out to be Bobby and a drum machine, the machine kept messing up and he had to start over alot of the songs, if you guys want to talk about being duped, the fans sure were, the people started booing him and throwing stuff at him, deservedly so, he should have billed himself as "Bobby Steele and my Machine", instead of the Undead(featuring Bobby Steele formerly of the MISIFTS). Face up to it Bobby you just cant stop living in the past, I mean when my friend went to go get you to do an interview for his zine you were a total asshole and all you talked about was the Misfits and how you got dissed, and how you never get the proper respect you think you deserve, well Bobby , you need to earn respect before you get respect and you have not done a damn thing that deserves respect. Granted you WERE a misfit, but you were too lame to be in the band that is why you got kicked out, I mean correct me if I am wrong but i have never heard Mr. Jim or Franche Coma or Joey Steele, Googy or Robo ever diss their former bandmates nearly as much, or if ever, like you do, now you or many might say Jerry, Doyle, and or Glenn complain too much, but you know what Bobby, they can because they are the coolest parts of the Misfits history past or present, so i bet you will go on a little tirade about I am lying just like you did to that Blag guy, but I have talked to others who said you were a complete prick in person just like you were when we met you in Green Bay, so stop living in the past and stop whining about your Misfit past. And dont give us any of that bullshit about how Jerry and Doyle live in their past, because they are still the Misfits and will always be Misfits, unlike you, so they can talk about what ever they want about THEIR band called the MISFITS, you belong to Times Square, so anyways, I had to get this off my chest, hello to all that agree with me, those that don't well, that is your problem and go listen to your Undead and green day albums. "Bobby Steele is an asshole fucking cunt , yeah a fucking asshole cunt, yeah the Undead suck, they fucking suck!"----"Bobby Steele is a homosexual!" that says it all. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 01:38:02 +0100 (MET) From: Franz Ardito Subject: kiss yesterday i went to milan to the KISS reunion concert and i have to say that in many years of concert-going i've never seen anything like that: it was a 2 and a half hours of complete ear-blasting, genuine, '70-style hi energy rock n' roll show. It seemed to me to be at the circus. the four of them looked just like martians, taking the stage from alive II, and kicking major ass. I think kiss are everything a rock n' roll band should be about: power, fire, blood, genius, and merchandise. please everybody: don't miss this one to mark: there might be some problems with my server so tell me if you see something weird coming from my mailbox bye franz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:26:39 -0500 From: "M.A. Correz" Subject: Fellow Fiends Hi there! I don't usually post to the bible, I'm a reader not a writer. Today though, I thought I would ask you all a favor. It's rare that I find a collection of "like minded" individuals with whom I can exchange ideas... friends sharing a common interest even though we don't actually know each other. Well Fiends, I am a 24 year old dad, and my ex-wife is trying to gain custody of our two year old son. I won't bore you with the details as I'm sure you are all aware that two different people always have two different stories, but I don't feel our child is safe in her custody. I will be wearing my Fiend club pin to the hearings, but due to the conservative nature of the courtroom atmosphere, I cannot reasonably demonstrate in any "provocative" fashion. I ask you to think Kind thoughts for me in a difficult time. I will remember all of you as I sit in that stuffy courtroom. thank you all for a reading experience that has been entertaining to say the least, if not always civil. <==[Charisma@westol.com]=================> M.A. Correz "who but me could write this book of cruel?" <==[member 1996 misfits fiend club]==========> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:38:29 -0500 From: Mark Shaffer Subject: More Video Questions Hey I was just wonderin if any of you guys out there have the video from May 7, 1996 at the Chameleon Club in Lancaster, PA. The show kicked ass and I would love to have a copy of it. Thanks alot and long live the 'fits! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:01:36 +0500 From: "John B. Kendrick" Subject: 138 Closing the store last night I counted out 138 pennies! Coincidence? I think not! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:31:57 -0330 (NST) From: Shaun Young Subject: new misfits??old misfits?? this new misfits thing is bothering me. is the new singer going to copy glenn danzig?? why don't they just get a girl singer...it would much cooler than listening to some fuckhead try to fill the shoes of "the devil." nothing compares to Glenn's singing as far as im concerned. if the misfits are going to play shows, people are going to say "man, they are trying to be what they used to be...that singer sux compared to glenn." now i know that all people aren't going to fell the same way, but why should they even take the chance and tarnish what they have made shine so well? a girl singer will solve all problems. then you will not have to worry about what some people will think of the "new" misfits. ps If they can't find a girl that is bitchy enough to fill the shoes i know a couple. shaun. ------------------------------ From: Thomas.Envall@emw.ericsson.se Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:52:03 -0800 Subject: Swedish Misfits tribute CD Hiya Fiends out there in Bible land. This is Thomas Envall, Sweden, posting. I think it was more than a year since I posted last time, but unlike many of you others, I haven't had anything relevant to post about until now. 2 days ago I bought the Swedish Misfits tribute CD that one of my fellow-countrymen posted about some issues ago. Today is the last day at work for this year and, as I have a lousy memory, I have of course forgotten to bring the album with me here, so that means I'll try to review it from my memory: (the lousy memory) ;) The album is called "Hail to the Misfits" (I think) and it's released on Tribute Records from Gothenburg, Sweden. It's about 17 or 18 bands on it and they perform 25 or 30 songs, or something like that. The styles performed vary from exact copycats to poppunk to death metal, and it all ends with an orchestral version of Halloween, probably performed on a syntheziser. The track I enjoyed most were She performed by the Demons, really great! Over all it is obvious that all the songs are recorded with a whole lot of love for the Misfits. Also the sleeve and insert to the CD is an obvious labor of love. Inside the insert it's details with photos about all the participating bands. And on the front there is the CG and 2 coffins with John F Kennedy and a woman. I don't recognise the woman, but it's probably either Marilyn or Jackie Kennedy (she held on to John's brain, Nov 22nd 1963, Destroy all monsters, if you know what I mean). Sorry if my description of the album seem confused, but I can recommend the album, it's great, and it will be interresting to compare it to the tribute album that Caroline is gonna put out. I saw in a paper that the Misfits are booked to play at Gino in Stockholm on April 27th, it's only 4 months away! I'm gonna be there, you bet! By the way, I gotta ask Denmom: which half of you is Swedish, upper or lower? ;p OK over and out, have a merry Misfitsmas, cheers/ Thomas Envall. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:42:51 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: This time its personal... Hello to all fiends... First off the post that the word ASSWIPE was in was Mondays bible which was written at 1am after spending the entire day on my last art project, im surprised that i spelled anything right in that post let alone to get punctuation or grammer going smoothly. the Sentence is (shit i feel like i'm teach, not cool) Get it through your thick skull, ASSWIPE, Bobby is here to stay. now even with out the commas that does not sound as if i was calling Bobby an ASSWIPE. Plus why the hell would i do that? i get along with him, we never argue and if there was a disagreement between us it would not be aired on the bible. the ASSWIPE is, wait, hey Bobby you said something about a fly. Toss me that fly swatter i think its about to land on the bible!!! SMACK, BLOOD AND GUTS EVERYWHERE!!! HE HE HE HE ;) Now what was i talking about before. Jon was asking about a boot Cough/Cool Vinyl Visions usually has one listed in their ad for $10 but this issue they don't just give them a call maybe they can get you one 360-427-1837 M-F 4-10pm pacific time. Misfits 101 - Who Killed Marilyn, its personal this time... Well as i said it is personal this time, a bootleg was sold to me in an auction from Dr. Strange Records back in 1990. It looks so much like the real think and if it was not for Glenn i would still not know to this day. There are two boots that i know of this one and another that has a blue xeroxed sleeve. this one which i think is Japanese being that back in the late 80's and early 90's i had heard of bootlegs that where made to look almost identical to the real thing(7"s only that i know of). The front sleeve on the boot has the same picture (line art) of Marilyn with the color purple on the eye lids and lips, though to compare it to an original the boot is a couple shades lighter. the sleeve is about a 1/4" smaller than the original too. The white on the boot is also much brighter than the original on both the black vinyl and the purple vinyl sleeves. also on the top right side where her hair curves there is a little smudge of white in teh black boarder, this is only on the original sleeves. the boot has one but is at the edge of the sleeve and not next to the hair like the original. where it says who killed Marilyn on the left top corner the rips in the logo are the same. where it says glenn danzig on the bottom right with an inch of black before the edge, it looks the same on both. Back side, top left corner with 1" space before the edge, glenn danzig. Under that is one of the eyes in a white box, next to it is B; SIDE. across from that is the other eye in a white box. under that in big text SPOOK CITY U.S A(usa is smaller than spook city). under that and to the left a little are the lips also in a white box. then across the bottom is PLAN9 black text in white box, then address for fiend club P.O.Box 3112 Grand Central Station N.Y.,N.Y. 10163, then PL1015 black text white box. Again the only difference is color on the eye lids and the lips. the boot being a couple shades lighter. The label on the vinyl for the boot is not a true black, it looks a little softer, where as the original is a solid dence black. other wise the lay out look exactly the same. Side A has a picture(lineart) of Marilyn the small center hole is over her nose, and on the bottom a 1/2" under her chin is PL1015-A. Side B: top - glenn danzig; left side - PLAN9 black text, white box, 45 RPM, Stereo(white text on both); right hand side - c(in circle) &p, static age, music, PL1015-B(also white text); bottom - WHO KILLED MARILYN (other side), SPOOK CITY U.S.A. (this side) the parenthesis before the word this is in line with the N from Marilyn. all white text. on the vinyl etched into the grooves on the boot is, side A - PL - 1015A, about 1/2" the number 1. side B is the same, but with a B. the original has, PL-1015 A(note that there are no spaces used between the PL the dash mark and the 1015, also there is a space between the 1015 and the A on the original!!!). also no number 1, but there is etched very small, F/W DM(side A). side B, PL1015 B (note that there is no dash used between the PL 1015, this is the same on the purple vinyl 7"), 2" away Fw and what could be a part circle with a check mark or a messed up G, after that is (1 1/2" away) is dm in what could be called cursive. The purple vinyl is a translucent not opaque, some areas are almost clear and some have swirls of pink or very light purple. the etchings in the grooves are exactly the same as the black vinyl original. After the situation with Dr. Strange (which did end in threatning his business in everyway possible) i did get my money back but he never got the 7" back. I would not hear of it, i felt that this should never happen again at least by him. Though some people do not agree with that but that is to bad. Let see how you feel when Glenn tells you the first 7" original you ever got is a bootleg. i don't think it would have looked real to try and hide under a seat on his bus. This was after i handed him my Cough/Cool to sign and probably what saved me from one hell of an arguement. Also there is something he taught me that night and it makes sense, squeeze the top and bottom of the sleeve opening and if it really opens wide you have an original, if its tight you got a boot. i did try this on other 7" and it does work, though you can't do it on a Cough/Cool, Bullet, Horror Business or Night of the Living Dead. they are all soft paper sleeve except first press gatefold Bullet. I hope this helps and really look at what you are buying, if you can use a magnifine glass or a loop(all you photography majors should have one, if not $5 at any photolab for an 8X). I hope everyone is having a great break from school and Holidays and see ya's on Monday. Later to all the fiendies and one dead fly!?! tes777(tammy) Bobby it had a white mark on its back i think;) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Teenagers From Mars bobby steele and blag Mars Attacks & Glenn sings Misfits 1994 stuff Unidentified 'fits disc Max's X-mas rise above Assorted Stuff stuff danzig and mike Talk about Misfits idle pradle five songs fiendish xmas Danzig teenagers from mars Samhain/Misfits for sale Texas Is The Reason stuff The Fly is dead, long live the fiend... From: ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 18:22:02 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: here we go again... "they saved Hitler's cock they hid it under your mom if Hitler's cock was here today it would say FREE OJ!!.." I was going to post about Earth AD and some observations that I have made, but I have some other things to discuss this week. "VAMPIRA" Said: >First I'd just like to add my 2 cents about CG. It >seems to me that every time somebody says something you don't like >or is of a different opinion than yours you get pretty hostile... You got some fucking balls you mudda fucka. [end Joe Pesce imitation] What the fuck did I do to deserve this? I haven't flamed or overreacted to anything in a weeks. Some kid flames my girlfriend (Patricia) and I reacted to it, I didn't over react, he was out of line. He has since apologized to her. Then last week I was busting on Brett Fama for questioning Mark's integrity. Brett knows I was disagreeing in a jestful manor, he did the same in his rebuttal to me. So lemme ask you, what is *your* problem? Get over it, go out and get laid or something but don't take your petty frustrations out on me. >...Settle down for a bit and instead of spewing the shit you spew >contribute something we would like to hear, like stories about what >it was like back then and stuff. Believe it or not some people do >appreciate stuff like that... This is *really* fucking funny. Patricia sits and types up stories about the Misfits "back in the day", then all you kids complain about it. You people appreciate nothing. You want to hear stories that jive with your fantasies about what the Misfits were. Well guess what..it wasn't like that. I'm sorry that your favorite band was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING on the punk scene back then. Sad but true that's how it was. Take a look at some of the videos floating around, I don't see shitloads of people lining up to see them, do you? Like this whole Parsons School of Design thread. This is laughable. Glenn couldn't have possibly ever gotten into Parsons. Parsons is *very* discriminating, you must have a killer portfolio not to mention very good SAT scores. As long as we are talking about these "fabrications" again...Pick up the current issue of Metal Edge and take a look what what the Evil Elvis said this time. I haven't read it personally BUT I have heard from one of Glenn's biggest fans that he had the audacity to claim that he attended photography school and took the pictures that appear in the box set. Gee.. funny but I wonder what Eerie thinks about that? Patricia and I believe that Glenn is living vicariously through anyone he respects that's achieved something. In other words... You're in college you finish college and accomplish something big in your career (ie: a major comic book or something) Glenns respects you because you've done something he could never do, or more specifically something he can never do well. Then he takes your story and morphs it with his own fantasy and VOILA! as they said back in the day.."more Glenn Danzig bullshit." Next week Jerry Only Bullshit.... just so you all know, I have nothing to prove here. I enjoy writing about things that interest me, I love Glenns voice as much as the next person. I just find the continual soap opera that surrounds him, and Jerry for that matter, fascinating. Must have been something in the water in Lodi. Brett: as far as "Dead Kings Rise" goes.. It's Jerry crooning over an acoustic guitar. Honestly it hard to listen to with out wetting your pants from laughter. Someone wanted a repeat of favorite songs. I haven't done this in a long time so here ya go. Astrozombies - (reel platinum) Night of the Living Dead - (song shop) Hollywood Babylon Bullet Hatebreeders fav Danzig - Little Whip - Dirty Black Summer Fav Times Square - Learn it - Yummy Yummy Yummy what did you expect? The haunting? "He who acts like an animal rids himself of the pain of being a man." - Dr, Samuel Johnson Crimson Ghost othello@magicnet.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 18:18:40 -0500 (EST) From: Patricia Ragan Hoehner Subject: Listen this time okay, heres my take on the whole fwiggin thing as Madeline Kahn would say.... everytime I've posted some personal remembrance of the Misfits back in the day as we have been saying lately, I've gotten unmitigated shit everytime. I'm not bragging and I'm not saying how much cooler I am than you (even though I am!) I'm trying to relate personal experiences that happened to me with these people that you all seem to care so much about. Anytime these stories make these people seem less than godlike everyone assumes it's a lie, or self promoting. All I have to say is, if I post something it's true. hasta manana monsieur Patricia desdmona@magicnet.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:45:05 -0500 From: "Eddie H.Tomb" Subject: My fav misfits songs, and a few random notes... Well, everyone else's doing it, here's my top five... 1-Astro Zombies 2-Ghouls Night Out 3-Some Kinda Hate 4-American Nightmare 5-Bloodfeast 6-TV Casualty There ae 6, instead of the usual five, because I have an obsession with the number 3 and it's multiples. Other notes: -Mark: if you're looking to BUY "rat music...", try Dr. Strange Records -Well, are the Misfits playing on New Years or NOT!??!!? -Where can i get this swedish(i think?) Misfits tribute album? is it on cd or record or both?? -Does anyone know where to get the Balzac CD? That's it...enjoy!!! -Eddie H.Tomb ------------------------------ Date: 20 DEC 96 10:49:01 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Mentors!! XShaneX said - >"Did someone quote the Mentors. I thought their evilness >was confined. The Mentors, the god damned Mentors if you never heard them >you gotta check them out, they put GWAR to shame in their wonderful wicked >content. Yea, the 4F club!! Find her, Feel her, Fuck her, Forget her!!! AZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:42:34 +0100 From: Marin Subject: Misfits Bible My top 10 songs: 1.Attitude 2.Astro Zombies 3.Where Eagles Dare 4.She 5.We Bite 6.20 Eyes 7.I turned Into a Martian 8.Last Caress 9.138 10.Return of the Fly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:09:26 -0500 (EST) From: Leah Ann Justis Subject: girl singer? huh? First of all, I've heard a lot of people say that Michale sucks. Mostly it's people that have never seen him or are just bitter because he's not Glenn. Also I've heard a lot of people (esp. after shows) saying that they thought he was great...I even heard one kid when he met Michale before the show say "I heard you were better than Danzig". Michale was just like "Hey, we'll see". So, I don't think it's fair to say that people will be thinking that Michale is bad and that he's just trying to be Glenn II or whatever. I don't know why they would. He doesn't sound much like Glenn, but he's a great singer. And as for there being a girl singer...I think that that would never happen. First even the most Michale hatin'-est fiend would probably want him over a girl. How much farther from Glenn can you get then a girl? I think it would have to be a really tough girl...I agree with you on that. But then again it would never happen. Even when they do let people sing during the shows it is never a girl. Like at DC when old mike got arrested...they were asking for BOYS to come up and sing. It's not like a girl wouldn't be as good as those people who sang that night (If you were one of those people, I'm sorry of course I didn't mean YOU!) (what I mean by Glenn being far from a girl is that most girls are much taller than him) my top five in no particular order 1)American Nightmare 2) Hybrid Moments 3)Last Caress 4)Return of the fly 5) Nike Honerable mention to the haunting and American psycho, both good songs but I wasn't really counting the new stuff. Leah ------------------------------ From: "Craig A. Wieczorkiewicz" Subject: It's 1:38, Do You Know Where Your Misfits Are? Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 12:44:46 CST Hey fiends, This probably sounds totally hokey but on my college radio show (Friday nights starting at 10 p.m. on 88.7 WRSE-FM in Dupage County, IL) last week I played "We Are 138" at 1:38 a.m. and then when announcing the songlist afterwards I mentioned the Misfits Bible and how some people think the hokiest little thing is an authentic Misfits Sighting...meant as no slam to anyone of course but it made for good radio, just thought you all would like to know the Bible has hit the airwaves! There's no stopping us now! Oh, and by the way, to the person trying to find another copy of the Static Age CD - try looking at a secondhand music shop, you might get lucky and not have to shell out the regular price for a CD, or worse yet, have to buy the whole box set again... Zork ------------------------------ Date: 20 DEC 96 14:39:29 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Jeet Kune Doo-doo Here is a thought for all you karate masters ........... Glenn Danzig knows Jeet Kune Do and 7 other Chinese words.... Hey, If Glenn fought Hong Kong Phooey, who would win? They are both cartoon characters, so you cant say it wouldnt be a fair fight ..... Yo "VAMPIRA" , if you're gonna bitch about the "Ghost", do it to him via private email, none of us really give a shit whether you like him or not. Personally, I think he is a funny dude, who doesnt friggin worship the ground the Misfits walk on like they are the Bay City Rollers or somethin. Hey MA COrrez - ". I will be wearing my Fiend club pin to the hearings, but due to the conservative nature of the courtroom atmosphere, I cannot reasonably demonstrate in any "provocative" fashion." Am I the only one here who is missing the point of this? AZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:55:21 -0600 (CST) From: xkevinx Subject: texas is the reason someone had mentioned the band Texas is the Reason in the last bible...yes, they did get their name from a certain misfits song, but they are far from being influenced musically by the misfits...they are an amazing indie-rockish band with an lp and a 7" out on Revelation records. i advise you check them out...really good stuff. thanks. take care, kevin. _____________________________________________________________________________ to this I am forever true. I am straightedge. xxx-Earth Crisis-xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:26:55 +1100 Subject: Warhammer's comin down Hi all I have not posted in a while and thought I would contribute to the fav fits songs before going away on X-mas vacation 1. London Dungeon 2. Haunting(this one may turn into no 1 if I like the studio version enough) 3. Mommy... 4. Some kinda hate 5. American nightmare(the song just cracks me up every time i hear it) 6. Blacklight(may have to put this one higher after the album is released) 7. We bite (it is just plain fukin awesome) 8. spinal remains 9. Hybrid Moments 10. All hell... 11. braineaters(when i heard that they may add this to their set i was extremely happy) 12. skulls( i especially like the way micheal sings this on shocking return) 13. Tv casuality (another one I like micheal singing on) 14. Death comes ripping 15. Die die my darling I also want to wish everyone on the list a merry christmas as this will be the last post I make untill after christmas break. Stay hungry The Warhammer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:59:11 -0800 From: blag jesus Subject: choads hey d-rod, bobby may have more skill but he aint got no soul like doyle and geoff wilson is continually showing off his homosexuality and tes777(tammy) you might sound like a teacher and not think that is cool, well babycakes, you can never be cool so let everyone know that after you fuck your asshole with the fly swatter and spank your self with it, tell us if it was good or not, and to whooo0 or whatever your name is , it is nice to see someone who knows what is up, later chicos, oooooh i soo scerred...have a nice day :) the best Misfits songs are Astro Zombies, Last Caress, Angelfuck, Hybrid Moments, Queen Wasp, We Bite, I turned into a Martian, Attitude , American Nightmare and the Haunting BOBBY STEELE SUCKS ------------------------------ From: Mark Blackman Subject: Re: Texas is the Reason Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:51:49 -0500 >>From: "Dorin M. Petre" >>Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:16:34 +0200 >>Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #271 >>Anybody here of the band "Texas is the Reason"? >>I saw their name in a list of chicago shows and figured they had=20 >>something to do with the misfits. If you would purposely try to seek out a band that sounds completely = unlike the MISFITS you would be listening to Texas is Reason. They are = very good, but you would look pretty silly stage-diving to them. Later, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:29:57 -0600 From: |20Eyes| Subject: #Misfits IRC channel. BE THERE! Hey Fiends, Well, its been a year now for the #Misfits IRC channel, and we are again in need of some support from you guys. The channel has gotten very dead over the last 5 months or so, and is just starting to pick up again. But we need MORE fiends coming in to the channel. If you have IRC access, PLEASE show your support, and get your arse in the channel. If you hate having to wait 2 days to get your thoughts out to the fiends, do it in real time. If you're pissed at that asshole who flamed you in the last issue, bust his ass live! We would like to be able to get some of the Misfits of past/present into the channel again (We have had 2 so far) but we need to show them that there is an interest before they would be interested I am sure. So get your fiendish selves into the channel and show everyone just how cool you are. Ok maybe not..... Remember, the #Misfits channel is on the Undernet IRC network, so make sure to use an undernet.org server close to you. If anyone has problems getting into our channel, let me or one of the other #Misfits Ops know and we will try to get you in. Just please also remember, its not a warm fuzzy channel, so dont be offended if someone says "fuck" or calls your mother a whore. And if we can get Blag Jesus or Wes Thomas into the channel, think of how interesting it could be! And to top it all off, some fiends are even getting laid because of this channel! ME included. I met my girlfriend on the #Misfits channel, and we are spending the holidays together. So if you want to get laid, come to #Misfits. Hell now you HAVE to come in. |20Eyes| #Misfits founder and IRC OP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:45:02 -0800 From: mike inzerillo Subject: Teenagers From Mars Can someone tell me how you guys cut a peice out of the bible and remail it? I have to type this guys question out cuz I am dumb. to SOTWAmf@aol.com The ska version of Teenagers you heard was by a band called Buck O Nine. It's on their album called Barfly. I got the vinyl, 2 blue 8 inchs :) Notice I didn't bother typing his question out? How do you do it? I ordered the Kinghorse cd yesterday, I will have it Saturday :) I saw a brown Ibanez Iceman Doyle-guitar at the music store last week :) those are rare. I was bored at work so I put on evilive and I was listening to Ghouls and it sounds like people are singing along, I'm I just hearing things? I had my ear on the speaker on the second listen. I need Bloodfeast, Invaders From Mars, The Eye Creatures, Monster A Go Go, and, and Return Of the fly to finish my B movie collection; can any 2,000 of you help? I got The new sacrifice single with 5 remixes the other day, I think soon Glenn will dump his band and get Depeche Mode to back him up :) One more thing, since there are many of you, On Super Mario 64, course 2, Whomps Fortress, I need the 6th star, the hint is "Blast away the wall" can someone tell me or give me a better hint? p.s. there's home video's for Danzig 1 and 2. What about for 3 and 4? There's a zillion video's off those albums, I've never seen any, are they ever going to be released? snuh ------------------------------ From: Dgmagnet@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:24:53 -0500 Subject: bobby steele and blag Blag, i agree with what you say about Bobby Steele, i saw him live as well with that drum machine, it was the lamest thing i have ever seen live, the machine screwed up as well, many of us left and didnt even finish watching the rest of his show, i cant say i have seen a bad Misfits show old or new and all the Danzig shows i have seen ruled as well, i cannot say the same for Bobby, and yeah i saw that GG allin movie, and he does remind me of Chicken John, oh well bye. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 12:12:43 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Mars Attacks & Glenn sings Misfits 1994 I doubt any legal action will come against the Fits for the song Mars Attacks (as someone asked). Album titles can be copywritten (so no on else could release an album called Static Age) but song titles cannot be copywritten - every artist in the world could put a song called Mars Attacks on their next album - all that matters with individual songs is the content. I have a video of the encore from a Metallica show back in 1994. Glenn comes on stage with Metallica and they do 3 Fits songs - London Dungeon, Last Caress and one other (I forget now) if anyone is interested in trading for a copy - let me know. Oh yeah - my fave five (to jump on the bandwagon here): Bullet Halloween Astro Zombies Where Eagles Dare TV Casualty =============================================================================== Stephen Gorny :Today's exercise in semantics: Musings on the Department of Psychology : California Civil Rights Initiative. UMBC :Supporters of the bill, who want to see an end to 5401 Wilkens Avenue :the use of racially-based preferences in job Baltimore, MD 21228 :hiring and school admissions, have been labeled :"racists" by their opponents. These same opponents SGORNY1@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU :want to keep race as a criteria in these practices :because they believe in "racial equality". =============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: MR HAROLD W JAFFE Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:37:22, -0500 Subject: stuff very simply, a choad is a dick that is wider, then it is long. texas is the reason is a hardcore band on revelation, as far as i know they have no affiliation with the misfits. Mark, do you know why the misfits cancelled the atlanta new year's show? there was an ad in the atlanta paper today for them, but the masquerade said it was cancelled. All atlanta fiends go to the Jan 15 Danzig show, or i'll shoot you. ------------------------------ From: Richard Goldman Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 12:30:23 +0000 Subject: Unidentified 'fits disc Ok Fiends, my first posting, so be gentle. A few questions: 1) When searching for the 'fits at www.cdnow.com, I came accross something that seemed peculiar. There's a disc there put out by Volume records that was marked "new" two weeks ago, and priced at about $18.00. This week, it's listed as "unavailable." Try this url: http://www2.cdnow.com/ cgi-bin/mserver/SID=526614344/RP/CDN/FIND/displa ypop.html/pcai=4660+74001+2 . If it doesn't work, simply do a search on the misfits at www.cdnow.com, and check out the bottom of the page, under the category Unavailable.... If there's a really plain answer to this that I'm overlooking, I apologize.... 2) Bought a tape for about $8.00 at Eide's in Pittsburgh called Misfits: Vampirella. Live, blah blah blah. Where was it recorded? Merry 'fitsmas. ------------------------------ From: Angwood@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 22:45:58 -0500 Subject: Max's X-mas Does anybody have a complete copy of this. if so post or email me. I am talking about a complete copy. sean ------------------------------ From: Angwood@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 22:50:54 -0500 Subject: rise above who originally does rise above???? ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:35:24 -0500 Subject: Assorted Stuff I don't know if anyone's posted this info yet (if it has, I'm sorry for posting it again) but there's a 5 page interview/article with Glenn in the March issue of Metal Edge. It's a pretty good piece. The only new information is that Glenn would like to bring a Japanese animated film called "X" to Miramax for American release and that if it happens, he'll be picking bands for the soundtrack. He also mentions that in the "Prophecy 2", the film he filmed a part for recently while on tour, he plays "a bad angel that wants to kill all the humans". The film will be coming out from Dimension films, a division of Miramax that deals with horror oriented films like The Crow, The Crow: City of Angles, The Prophecy, From Dusk Till Dawn, and, most recently, Scream. All of the film projects that Glenn has recently been involved in have been connected, it seems, to his signing to Hollywood records. Hollywood records is a division of the Disney corporation. Miramax/Dimension films is also a division of Disney. Perhaps through some sort of inter-corporate connections, he's been able to work in films not only on a creative end (as with the Death Dealer film and the above mentioned X) but also on an acting end (with the Prophecy 2). I myself think it's a good move. Anyway, there's going to be some sort of interview or article with the Misfits in the next issue of World of Fandom. I just thought I'd let all of you know ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 16:27:04 -0500 Subject: stuff i called my local record store, they said violent world hits stores January 28, not Feb. 11 top 5 songs not in order 1 Astro Zombies 2 Last Caress 3 Braineaters 4 Skulls 5 (tie) We Bite, Die Die My Darling, & Halloween the worst misfits songs are Hellhound, Come Back, Demonomania, & Wolfsblood chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 15:43:45 -0800 From: Gary Dolin Subject: danzig and mike My friend bought a Nine Inch Nails bootleg,and Micheal Graves is the back up singer for Trent Reznor. The boot is called shallow grave.It was recorded in '94.Also, in the latest circus I think, it has a little article on danzig.It says this. "Seen DAnzig on Cops yet? Cameras from one of those reality police shows were on hand as glenn danzig and crew were busted the night before Halloween for making excessive noise and blocking traffic during their performance at an L.A. record store parking lot." got to go. THE WALKING CORPSE {AZ, e-mail me.I can't find your address.} ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:41:49 -0600 From: 138 Subject: Talk about Misfits Hey fiends, I was thinking that Monday night at about 9:00 anybody that wants to talk about the misfits should do this. Go to yahoo and search for Tab USA,when it comes up go to it,then go to the Open Chat room on the page,then just think of some sort of Misfits related name so we know who the Bible people are and just hang out there for a while. I don't know,it was just an idea that I thought would be cool. 138 Do you know,where your going to,do you like the things that life's been showing you? Where are you going to? DO YOU KNOW?? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:41:06 -0600 (CST) From: Rebecca S Pease Subject: idle pradle Uhhhh....hello, I just finished reading American Psycho, and boy am I disturbed. No wonder it inspired a MISFITS song! I will never look at a rat the same way again. yuck Is anybody out there gonna see Danzig on Jan. 10 @ Corpus Christi? 20 EYES: Thanx for the video, it's the best live footage of the new 'Fits that I've seen. MY TOP FIVE MISFITS TUNES:(today) 1. Horror Business 2. 20 Eyes 3. American Nightmare 4. Theme for a Jackal 5. Horror Hotel Better go, I have to return some videos. YOURS GHOULIE, scabigail ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:39:59 -0500 Subject: five songs wouldn't it be easier to list 5 songs you didn't like? they're really all so good! (up until the new line-up...haven't heard any of them yet so i can't speak on 'em.) the only one i never really cared for was demonomania...cool title but the song...even hellhoud is kinda' cool with the feedback and scratchy parts... D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:06:14 -0800 From: PeterM Subject: fiendish xmas just wanted to wish everyone a very fiendish christmas and a gruesome 1997! Peter. ah yes, Chris Hatcher - hope you're having fun with my cd - I don't expect to get my stuff from you anymore... sad git... -- 'Jesus greets me...looks just like me...' E.V. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:12:24 -0500 Subject: Danzig Fiends, You know, after buying this Sacrifice single, it made me think of something that Glenn constantly has been saying. He says that he is doing something no one else is doing. Who is he kidding? Let's see, Sacrifice sound very NINish. 7th House could easily pass for "Mr Self Destruct" by NIN, or some of the Ministry stuff out there. "Power of Darkness"--I was listening to this and my sister came into my room stating she did not realize I like KMFDM. "Serpentia" is White Zombie only boring. What is original? "Blackacidevil" has that cool tribal feel...hmmm Sepultura? The only thing that is unique is Come To Silver. And for simple reasons, IT'S STUPID. Industrial mixed with country.... Anyway, the tape offer is still good as always. I should be getting in that Action Park show soon, along with some other goodies. Speaking of tape orders, if you have not received yours let me know, the only one I haven't filled is not on the list. Chris ------------------------------ From: Initium9@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:48:13 -0500 Subject: teenagers from mars To all fiends I used to be SOTWAmf I had to change my name. If anyone has to e-mail me my new name is Initium9@aol.com. Reguarding the teenagers from mars ska song or the movie C.H.U.D. ------------------------------ Date: 23 DEC 96 11:57:34 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Samhain/Misfits for sale Ok, it seems some of my Samhain, though bid on, has not sold. November Coming Fire and Final Descent. Plan 9 releases on CD, each in near mint condition, for sale to highest bidder. Misfits collection I and II as well as legacy of brutality on CD for sale as well. Collection I and Legacy on Plan 9, Collection II Caroline only, Email with me offers, no reasonable offer refused. Some of this stuff aint that rare, I just want to sell it. I pay postage. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:04:55 -0500 From: dan sylvester Subject: Texas Is The Reason I heard a seven inch, the other day by a band called Texas Is The Reason. I wanted to know if they got thier name from the line in "Bullet". If anyone knows (Mark,Bobby,whoever) respond. The band is pretty good, don't sound anything like the Misfits in case you were wondering, and they're not from Texas either. ------------------------------ From: thl19@pacbell.net Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 16:45:09 -0800 Subject: stuff Hey fiends; Have any of you seen the Sacrafice vid yet? I got to see it when I went up to Anaheim to visit my girlfriend. THe vid friggin' rocks. Keep in mind that that was the first time that I was ever exposed to Danzig's "new" sound. It did not bother me, cuz I've been listening to Industrial for a while. Actually, I like Danzig's industrial side. Hey, what the hell is so wrong with metal? Is it that you guys are intimidated with single note progressions or inverted power chords or simply with the techinical stuff? Hell, I like both punk and metal. SO flame away...see if I fukin' care. Hey, any fiends that live in anaheim and are friends of my girlfriend, drop me a line. Her name is April. WolfsblooD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:53:52 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: The Fly is dead, long live the fiend... Hello fiends... to start off, i got something i need to sell, no its not part of my collection. i have 2 extra tickets to the Danzig show here in Florida, Sunrise Music Center(Part of FortLauderdale) for January 18. they are 3rd row center. i'm selling them at face value, so if you live down here or feel the need to see Danzig in Florida just e-mail me. Mark- the rat comp is a rare piece to find, but you are lucky on one thing. I have two copies of the Circle Jerks Golden Shower of Hits, and no Chuck is not on this. The drummer is John Ingram, this was on Lax Records from 1983. By the way if there are any Circle Jerk fans and you want one of these records contact me, also for the die hard types i do have the promo 7" for the record too(no sleeve, it never came with one). Ah, shit there is another fly, maybe this time we should get a can of bug spray or something. They seem to pop up everytime, yeah, spray it Bobby, well if the can is empty just wack it a couple times with the can. Not bad, two dead ones. Misfits 101, today Halloween! there is one boot i have seen, though at this point i don't have one and my friend sold his probably to Ken when i got him a real one for his birthday. If i remember correctly the boot was a hard cover that looked similar to the real thing but used the PLAN6 or PLAN69. The original, front cover - orange (tangerine skin color, you know that bright orange) there are vampire skulls, 14 going down the left hand side, 4 across the top till you get to the MISFITS logo done in Famous Monsters of Filmland type, 4 after that, then going down the right side 14 again, on the bottom there are 26 that go across and make a rectangle that is smushed between the title HALLOWEEN and a large scary pumpkin. That includes one large skul with devil like horns. this is centered on the bottom of the rectangle of skulls. HALLOWEEN is going down the left hand side in a black rectangle with white type. in the center of all this and takes up quite a bit of room is a black and white photos of the Misfits, with Glenn sporting the famous Captain Harlock t-shirt. the photo has a thin white frame that goes all around it except where the title and the pumpkin creep in. the back cover is an inversed version of the pumpkin. with a black and orange texture that fills the areas that the pumpkin does not. the MISFITS logo is in the very top left corner, black type outlined in orange. under that is HALLOWEEN 2(roman numerals). then the lyrics for that song. all in lower case. formulae ueteres exorsismorum, et excommunicationum, strigas et fictos lupos credere, daemon(the a and e are close together as one) pellem lupinam, in trunco quodam cauae, arboris occultandum, metamorphoses lycanthropie, possunt inquam. this is printed going down the left hand side of the sleeve and is in white over black rectangles that blend into the pumpkin. at the very bottom left corner is the PLAN9 in white with a black bat shaped area instead of the usual misshaped rectangle. PL1017 is in the pumpkin under the right side of the mouth. going down the right side written sideways is THIS RECORD DEDICATED TO SUSAN HANNAFORD ROSE, next to that is PRODUCED BY THE MISFITS C(IN THE CIRCLE) & P 1980 '81. The vinyl side A, has an orange label, large center hole, and top MISFITS orange and black outline, left side PLAN9 orange type black rectangle, 45 RPM, Stereo in black type; bottom HALLOWEEN 1(Roman numeral), Unauthorized duplication prohibited all black type; right side - c(in circle) +(not an & this time) p, Hell - bent, music, PL1017 - A, all is black type except the PL1017 which is orange with a black rectangle. vinyl etchings MASTERDISK(which is really stamped into the vinyl, to perfect to be a normal etch) next to it is HW, then PL - 1017 - A. Side B - type on label is all the same except bottom HALLOWEEN 2(roman numeral) and PL1017 - B. the only etching is PL - 1017 - B. Oh there is one little thing but this is if you are lucky. there is an insert with the lyrics to Halloween. black flyer with MISFITS at the top in orange, the lyrics are in black in orange rectangles, the face from the pumpkin is at the top right corner next to the first three lines and the mouth is above the next three lines. there are a total of 6 rectangles with lyrics three lines per. HALLOWEEN is going down the left hand side black type orange rectangle. in the bottom left hand corner is a bat, and next to its left wing is C(in circle) & P the MISFITS/ Hellbent Music( this starts an inch before the wing starts). PLAN9 is in the right hand bottom corner in orange. the sheet is a weird size too, height is 10 1/4" X width is 6 1/8". type for lyircs are all in caps. if you look hard enough you can get the 7" for as low as $45 or as high as $125. though i am one of those who loves the hunt, i find no need to sit and hope someone offers me something and fork over tons of money for the pleasure. its all out there if you want it badly enough. Next time Evilive part one, the numbered edition for the fiends club. has any of the european fiends seen the new Danzig lp on vinyl yet? i have been searching but no dice. the only thing that was turned up was a promo CD for the Misfits box set. this will set you back $15 - 20. Later to the all the fiendies!?! one more chalk mark for another dead fly. tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Bible, #273 Re: Rise Above photos, home videos, originality Holiday things that don't make any sense... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 16:48:44 -0500 From: markennedy Subject: Stuff Hey Fiends - I'll be in NY on Friday, so I'll be sending out the next MB on Saturday, not that I've been very prompt lately (sorry about that). Next, John Grimm and The Misfits are working on a new postcard update for Fiend Club members and it looks great. It's nothing major, but it seems that a lot of the Fiend Clubbers are getting a little too impatient... Finally, I have some Danzig tour dates sent to me by the ghost of EVB: 01/08/97 Blue Iguana Amarillo, TX 01/10/97 Yellow Rose Corpus Christi, TX 01/11/97 Bronco Bowl Dallas, TX 01/12/97 Austin Music Hall Austin, TX 01/14/97 5 Points Music Hall South Birmingham, AL 01/15/97 International Ballroom Atlanta, GA 01/17/97 Velocity Jacksonville, FL 01/18/97 Sunrise Musical Theatre Sunrise, FL 01/19/97 Masquerade Ybor City, FL 01/21/97 Characters Columbia, SC 01/23/97 Characters Greenville, NC 01/24/97 Millenium Winston-Salem, NC 01/25/97 Boathouse Norfolk, VA 01/28/97 Capitol Ballroom Washington, DC 01/29/97 The Roseland New York, NY 01/31/97 Electric Factory Philadelphia, PA 02/01/97 Stargate Springfield, MD 02/02/97 The Strand Providence, RI 02/04/97 Ogden Street Buffalo, NY 02/05/97 Warehouse Toronto, Canada 02/07/97 Agora Cleveland, OH 02/08/97 Golden Dome Pittsburgh, PA mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:27:43 -0500 From: PRH Subject: hoppy halidays to y'all and my own fave misfitsongs? 1) Astro Zombies 2) London Dungeon 3) I Turned into a Honda oops I mean Martian 4) Night o' the Living Dead 5) Devil's Ho house actually there are few I don't like. But i guess those are my favorites. i've really been diggin listening to the Sessions disc from the box and noticing little differences between each version (this summer CG and I actually spent lots of quality time doing just that). I've formed lots more appreciation for Bobby's guitar style from that. as for Herr Glenzig's later stuff, I like 'Possession', 'Twist of Cain'-- I guess what you'd call Classic Danzig. HTGK always makes me happy too, just about even though some of it is pretty silly. 'Left Hand Black' is a great housecleaning song. I feel like such badass mopping the floor to that, hollering 'Gonna bring you GOOOODDDDDDDD!' Here's a dopey little anecdote tho that I was reminded of after hearing 'Come to Silver' and being told it was one of the songs Glenn wrote for Johnny Cash. The year is I guess late 79, Glenn and I are putting in a long full day of hanging around St. Marx Pl at the clothing store their (the Misfits) manageress Natasha owned, and here come my buddy Roberta (some of you might know her photography work from the first Ramones album--classic punk photography) with this lovely tall gal who is none other than Carlene Carter, who just happens to be John R Cash's stepdaughter. She was married to Nick Lowe at the time and I guess she was trying to get some sort of career thing happening for herself. So Roberta says to me 'wow Patricia I want you to meet Carlene Carter.' and both Glenn and I jump all over her shit pelting her with questions about her step-pop. she gets all pissy about it, cause we dont care about HER at all, just her old man, so she kinda huffs off. Roberta Bayley gives us both a dirty look and takes off too, me and Glenn are sick with laffter about now. You shoulda been there. Glenn was such a happy guy in those days, what the hell happened? love and mistletoes, patricia ragan denmom 'fex urbis, lex orbis'-- st. jerome (dregs of the city, law of the world) ------------------------------ Date: 23 DEC 96 13:04:03 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Angwood said "who originally does rise above????" I believe its was an original Black Flag song, sung by Henry "I ruined we are 138" Rollins. AZ ------------------------------ Date: 23 DEC 96 13:19:17 EST From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com Subject: Den Mom and CG Den Mom and CG: Just to let you know that I like all your stories, I think that they are very interesting. I dont think that your tooting your horn but just letting people in on what you saw!! I wish I could have seen alot of what you seen happen in the music biz. Keep the stories comming or just e-mail me or Art Z with them, it would make our day at work fly by!!!!!! gfk PS--Hey you guys,tell Mickey Mouse I said HI!!!! ------------------------------ From: cooper15@hsonline.net Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:04:08 -0600 Subject: A New MiSFiTS Site There's a New Misfits Site: "Dr. Acula's MiSFiTS Site" ! Go To: http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/3640/ Right Now, The pictures are not working for some reason, but it's looks like it's gunna be a pretty cool site! ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:47:59 -0500 Subject: Stuff Fiends, Stephen Gorny mentioned Glenn jamming with Metallica on three songs. This is from 7/3/94 at the World Music Theater in Tinley Park, IL. Great show. Anyway, if you want a vid of it, talk to him, I guess. However, I have an audio copy that is significantly better sound wise of the three songs, so if you're interested, drop me a line. Rich Goldman, that tape you got, Vampirella, is from Al's Bar 4/17/82. I believe that's in Los Angeles. Check Mark's web page for a complete discography that included that. Also, I've been getting my hopes up repeatedly for the show that Michale got arrested at. I want everyone who thinks they have a copy to listen to it again. If the lyrics in Teenagers slam Bobby, and at the very end of the thing someone says "Fuck the British, the British suck." You do NOT have that show. You have the last few songs off of the CD boot "Blood" which is a cut up Al's Bar show. Yes, that IS Glenn singing. The Max's Xmas show. There are no full length copies out, Glenn saw to this. I have a cut up version which I compiled from various radio interviews and the Flipside CD. 8 songs of varying quality (due to radio reception), and no "Blue Christmas" is NOT on there. If I'm not mistaken it is trivial to even ask about this as I doubt it will ever come out (I, however, am not an authority on this). Black Flag does "Rise Above" originally. The Metal Edge article is definitely worth checking out. Glenn even comments on each song on the album. If you're too cheap to buy it, go into Barnes and Knoble, take a seat and read it. And when you're done, there's an excellent Bon Jovi article after it. Hahaha. Glenn won't talk to Circus, but he will talk to Metal Edge. The question is, who do I hate more Marilyn Manson and Pearl Jam or Bon Jovi and Def Leppard. Too close to call. Chris ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:00:18 -0500 Subject: joyous kwanza! last time cg said: < Subject: #misfits on the IRC... Hey kiddies, There are various scources of #misfits fun on the IRC. Try downloading the program mIRC version 4.7 - It's the best chat format around. You can get it at http://www.mirc.co.uk/ it's shareware but they keep coming out with new versions so don't register it unless you really want to. I don't know why i'm saying this most of this info is on the webpage. Anyway... Oh yeah, 20eyes: I'm in #misfits quite a bit and there is never anyone there... I've seen one person but not your nick - Do you go by any other nicks? L8R Fiends, Chris (the artist 'formerly' known as DeMeNTaTioN, LastCaress, and Master_Po on the IRC) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:43:29 -0500 From: Kevin Subject: Misfits Portfolio I Fiends: The Misfits Portfolio I is finally available on-line. For ordering info and to get a look at the portfolio itself, go to http://www.student.toplinks.com/hp/kuder/misfits.htm Kuder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:56:38 +0200 From: Salem Subject: Secluded and Seduced I think I have been in some place else for the past 7 months. Alienated, dropped out of college for semester for no obvious reason. And things are no more the same. Now the door is opened and I start hearing somethings, I get amazed and surprised. So, I need some enlightenment which I now seek from you. I. There were some who said something about Glenn getting into movies. What's it all about? II. Are there any plans for re-issuing Aria and Samhain stuff? I going to get myself a copy of blackacidevil sometime in the next week, if there's a store still opened. I come out and they all get in, was my seclusion my only sin? Salem __________________ I am the slain one the innocent son what have I done? ------------------------------ From: Wallfower@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 19:43:46 -0500 Subject: five favorite songs Here are my 5 favorite fits songs 1.she 2.we are 138 3."mommy can i........" 4.teenagers from mars 5.demonomia thats all i have to say...bye ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:13:57 +0000 From: Aaron Lanham Subject: Static Age CD Fiends, Hey, this is my first post. I have been following along for a couple of months now and I keep seeing people give advice on how to obtain a new Static Age CD if you lost yours. Well I bought the box set when it came out and when I first played the Collection One CD it started skipping on track six and kept skipping all the way through the rest of the CD. I wrote a letter to Caroline Records and explained my situation and within a few days, I had a new CD, an appology, and a bunch of Misfits stickers and post cards. They really took care of my problem in a huury and I thought that was pretty cool, seeing how it is almost impossible to get any kind of customer fucking service anywhere these days. Anyway I'm sure if you lose or damage one of your box set CDs that you should write to Caroline and explain your situation. You probably won't get a free CD but I am sure that you will get a response and possibly an opportunity to purchase a new CD. Just a thought cause writing to them worked for me. Carolines address is on the last page of the box set booklet. Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:42:45 -0800 From: mike inzerillo Subject: Slim Attacks I found a spectalur Misfits sighting, kind of. In the movie Mars Attacks there is an old Lady listening to a Slim Whitman record. On the Misfits video Why Be Something You Are Not, the broadcasted Detroit show from 82, That's what Glenn said his name was. I'm tracking down silkscreen paint for those Harlock shirts. someone told me there is a silkscreening stoe two towns away so I'll keep you posted. http://www.ecis.com/~mikei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:39:13 +0100 From: Franz Ardito I would like to wish everybody a merry christmas and a great new year, to everybody who's writing me i'll be in amsterdam to some friends' till the 7th so i won't be able to respond to e-mails mark, now i receive the bible plain well thanks for your time bye franz ------------------------------ Subject: Robo...A Cunt Fucking Asshole????? From: dave naked Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:45:37 EST Hey Fiendos: Did it ever occour to anyone that Robo was just as used as Bobby??? What did Bobby do for the band? He was a New York boy, a scenster. If anyone could get the Misfits known in the big NY, it was him. He got them shows. He was the SiD if the band. The Misfits got what they wanted, and kicked out Bob. Years later...Glenn became somewhat interested in the West Coast scene (Black Flag). He the fuck knew The Misfits there?? NO ONE. Robo was a west coaster, old Black Flag drummer. If anyone could get them in on the West Coast it would be Robo. Robo was just as fucked over as Bobby. This furthers proves the point that, yes Bobby Steele *was* used by the band and now we can add Robo to the list. Am i not right???? Few more things... 1) To anyone who sent in a Shirt order....Yes I DID GET IT. I just dont respond (ever). 2) Where the hell is EVB?...she made a brief come back...then, poof! 3) To anyone who flamed Bobby Steele...He was in the Misfits...your just obsessed with them. Some would even say YOUR obsessed with HIS old band. 4) My top five (in no fucking order) American Nightmare Night of the Living Dead (7" version) AngelFuck Hybrid Moments Some Kind of Hate yeah...thats it for now dn A plant, a fucking plant, not a way of life- H.Rollins ------------------------------ Date: 24 Dec 1996 19:48:50 -0000 From: John Ward Subject: Another Sighting...uh huh huh huh Greetings Fiends, By this time I'm sure that I'm not the only fiend on the MB who has seen the Beavis and Butthead movie. Did any one pick up on the character playing guitar while they were tripping in the desert? If you ask me that was Doyle. Near-devillock hairstyle, skull on the head of the guitar, I think he was wearing a leather jacket with spikes too. Also in that same scene the hot rod they were catching trails off of was the same one (whatever its called) that another fiend mentioned can be bought as a model, and the box says something about Ratt Fink. The rest of the movie is okay, albeit somewhat stupid (I guess that's to be expected). New Jersey/ Pennsylvania/ Deleware area fiends, Danzig is scheduled to play the Electric Factory on January 31, if you haven't heard or care. Any Bible members going to the Marilyn Manson show on January 17 in Seattle? --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: KWard93399@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:32:29 -0500 Subject: "The kids are losing their minds..." Okay, kiddies, I'm back. This is the first time I've been able to check my mail since Friday the 20th, so I have lots to catch up on! Moving sucks... Mark and everyone on the MB: I'm going to try to reply to the following flame without actually starting a flame war. Whooo@aol.com, show everyone on the MB respect and don't flame me for this message on the MB. (Re: Whooo@aol.com on MB #272) Partcularly through the past 3 1/2 years I have listened to people find every excuse imaginable to flame either Bobby Steele or me for liking The Undead in general, and Bobby Steele in partcular. You mention that Bobby Steele is the only former member The Misfits who complains. Wrong. Jerry and Paul complained for years that they weren't receiving money from Glenn, that The Misfits sucked, The Undead sucked, etc. Glenn bitches that he doesn't get any money from The Misfits albums or merchandise, "so don't buy" them. (MTV Interview from '89 ? '90?). Manny, Franche and Mr. Jim were early members of the band, and were not in the band for any major length of time. Seriously, after these guys left and the band had broken up then, do you think anyone would've heard of them? With Bobby in the band, this was another story. The band had reached its peak already by the time Bobby left. Hey, not a bad idea. We wouldn't have had the Earth A.D./Wolfsblood LP! Tammy, I'm sorry, but personally I think the Steele/Image era sounds much better than the "Bonfires (guitar goes out) burning (misses snare beat) bright (guitar feedback) pumpkin (guitar playing C# when the chord is Cmaj) (Glenn misses rest of the line, guitar goes out again, drums lose tempo, someone in crowd is overheard singing the chorus)" we came to expect from the first song of every set. Also, I think it is very immature to use the live "Teenagers from Mars" lines to flame Bobby. If you must flame, use your own words. And as far as Robo...he doesn't stop bitching about how bad Henry Rollins screwed up Black Flag's music (which Greg Ginn wrote 100% of!) to even mention The Misfits. Anyway, kids, I have a 15 year-old girl trying to chat with me on AOL, so it's time to get off of AOL. So much jailbait, so much jail time. Ken ------------------------------ From: Pdbedr@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:28:38 -0500 Subject: fiendish thoughts Hello Fiends, From:"VAMPIRA" Said: >First I'd just like to add my 2 cents about CG. It >seems to me that every time somebody says something you don't like >or is of a different opinion than yours you get pretty hostile... As much as an A-Hole he sounds like here, believe it or not CG is actually quit a pleasant guy to talk to! Maybe he has a little to much of I am from NJ I am badder then fuck! I talked to CG on the phone and I thought I was gonna hate it but hey he is kind of a pleasant and cool guy to talk to. Other then the fact that I have never got my picks from him he is okay. CG said- >Brett: as far as "Dead Kings Rise" goes.. It's Jerry crooning over an >acoustic guitar. Honestly it hard to listen to with out wetting your pants >from laughter. Yeah it is pretty bad, I have heard this as well. But who knows it may be better when they record it. But still it is one of those dumb Kryst Type songs and they have no buisness being on a misfits album. Although I do kind of enjoy the Kryst EP it is as cliche as it comes for that style of music, full of the stock and trade words like VENGENCE! >From: Leah Ann Justis >Subject: girl singer? huh? >Even when they do let people sing >during the shows it is never a girl. Like at DC when old mike got >arrested...they were asking for BOYS to come up and sing. It's not like >a girl wouldn't be as good as those people who sang that night (If you >were one of those people, I'm sorry of course I didn't mean YOU!) >my top five in no particular order 1)American Nightmare HEY! Leah I was one of those guys! I am embarassed to say that I got up there and I messed the last verse to your fav song american nightmare. But man with no PA monitor you couldnt hear a thing! Well anyways ill post my top 5 cuz I love reading these: 1.Vampira 2. All hell breaks Loose 3. The haunting 4. last Caress 3. Black light have a very merry Misfits Christmas everybody D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 1996 18:16:25 -0000 From: Christoffer Jonsson Subject: XShaneX + Misfits Tribute band Hiya XshaneX... Mail me as it would be fun to have contact with other sXe kids around the world... Ok, heres a short story... Swedens biggest hardcore band REFUSED (Theyre really big, like mainstream) has played one gig in their (mine to) hometown Ume under the name Beware. They were dressed like the misfits and played (surprise) only Misfits songs! Cool... Love + Respect XDX --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: WarPigz@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:49:56 -0500 Subject: Why I h8. Ok, It's been 20+ issues since I posted. Why you may ask? Well all I've been hearing is "Fuck Glenn Danzig" to "Fuck Bobby Steele" to "Fuck you poser". Basically I'm with Glenn, with Bobby, and with the common man, AKA the poser. Last I posted, I was the poser for liking Metallica(Well not the new SHIT). But I digress... The reason I hate is that AC/DC was in Albany, NY waaay back in September and some shit band opened. BUT the shit band cancelled and I just found out who opened. You know who the fuck it was?, THE FUCKING MISFITS! I didn't go because I don't like AC/DC overly. A bunch of FUCKHEADS who now listen to rap (AKA the flavor of the month) saw it and said the played for over an hour! Yes I hate now! I never saw the live! KILL ME. IF THEY ONLY ANNOUNCED IT! As for Glenn's new album (old news), I haven't gotten it yet. I will eventually because a.) it's Glenn and b.) he roughly covers a Sabbath tune. Another aspect of the list I hate is "the punkier than thou " attitude I'm receiving. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK if the Ramones are the godfathers of punk or it We owe a debt to the Stooges or Minor Threat. AGAIN, these are feelings from the past 20+ issues. Closing remarks: Is there even a Mars Attacks soundtrack? Under what label, major or indy, is The Misfits tribute out on and where can I get it? And Bobby, what's you're guitar of choice? Tom AKA: War Pigz "Fuck it all and fucking no regrets..." -Metallica "Damage, Inc." ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:04:59 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #273 > From: Angwood@aol.com > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 22:50:54 -0500 > Subject: rise above > > who originally does rise above???? BLACK FLAG. Its the first track off the Damaged Album. It, as the rest of the record kicks ass. ok thats it. Tom Undermine GogmaGod Records Rd 1 box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, NY 12592 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 02:45:01 -0500 From: dan sylvester Subject: Re: Rise Above Rise Above was originally by Black Flag. I'll give you as much info on the song as I know. It is the first song on their first album called "Damaged." the album came out in 1981 on SST records(it is still being pressed in LP CD and Cassette) the band consisted of, at the time of the recording, Henry Rollins(vocals), Dez Cadena(Guitar,vocals), Gregg Ginn(Guitar), Charles Dukowski(Bass) and Robo(Drums). Robo left the band and later joined the Misfits(you already know that). Black Flag is the only band ever that I would guarentee a Misfits fan can get into. Back in the day, Glenn said during some Misfits interviews that he only liked one band, Black Flag. Dann (Maybe I should make up some alias name like Astro Zombie or Dr. Phibes) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:07:08 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Fama Subject: photos, home videos, originality CRIMSON CHOST: actually, CG, Glenn said that he took "all" the Misfits and Samhain pictures, but I think he meant the ones on the album covers etc. he probably forgot (or just didn't bother) to specify that "all" means only those that were taken before Eerie became the Misfits' photographer. I know it sounds like I'm trying to explain away one of his "lies," but if you read his i/vs he doesn't usually get into the details of stuff like that. In any case, he actually didn't mention the box-set at all, as he doesn't seem to even want to acknowledge its existence. CHRIS TERNES: i have to agree that, as much as I love Glenn's music, it's not all that original. (CG, you still reading this?) you could say some Misfits stuff sounds like the Ramones; Danzig draws on AC/DC (choke...) and the great Black Sabbath; "new" Danzig on White Zombie, Ministry, NIN, or whatever. But there's is something different about HOW he uses these influences. Either way, whatever he does, it still sounds better than the stuff that spawned it. (or is there anyone out there who actually says the Ramones are better than the Misfits?? please tell me there isn't) also, someone asked about the lack of recent Danzig home videos. Glenn said that there is a home video set to come out "soon" (whatever that means to him). In a few i/v's (including the current Metal Edge) he has pretty much claimed that it was Rick Rubin/American Recordings that was holding up the release, because they wouldn't finance it. A couple years ago in a guitar magazine John Christ said that the next home video would have "Dirty Black Summer", "Mother '93", and other footage shot at the 10/31/92 Irvine Meadows show (including "Sistinas"), as well as the uncut (or should I say "cut"?) "It's Coming Down" video, and other stuff. He said this LONG BEFORE Danzig 4p came out, so that's why none of that album's videos were mentioned. -brett ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:48:24 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Holiday things that don't make any sense... Hello fiends and HAPPY HOLIDAYS... i have know idea what the hell is going on the holidays make my mind go mush for two days. first we will have Misfits 101 of Evilive start on Friday. I figure tons of you are with your families and i doubt you will get to sneak away to your computers to read the detailed run down of Evilive first press. Patricia PLEASE KEEP POSTING THE STORIES FROM THE OLD DAYS, ITS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS I ENJOY READING ON THE BIBLE!!! As for the rest of those morons that have a problem with it to FUCKING BAD, like listing to some jackass rehash the same bullshit from issue to issue about his UNKNOWN PROBLEM WITH BOBBY STEELE. And all the fools that seem to follow him, which they probably don't know why they agree with this guy or why they now don't like Bobby. What is even more funny is this guy takes a name that to some have great meaning and represents goodness and all that stuff. yet all he yacks about is hate for some unknown reason. Boy Mark, we do have some fucked up people here. Ok so i get the point we are doing the our top 5 fave songs. 1) Horror Business(like as if no one knew this by now) 2) TV Casualty 3) Ghouls Night Out 4) All Hell Breaks Loose 5) Death Comes Ripping Well to make this one step interesting, since we have done some of the originals in 101, how about some of the rare boots. Angel Fuck boxset - its not really in a box, its in an LP sleeve. there are only 50 made. and i think it is German. Its a white sleeve with a B&W photo of Marilyn. has the Misfits logo(FMOF version) on the upper right hand corner of the photo and under that is ANgELFuCK put together in cut out type. on the rignt hand corner if the photo is a sticker in B&W of the drawings of the creatures used on the numbered Evilive 7" the Misfits logo(same as top) then fiend club, and a CG. the back of the sleeve is all white except in the lower right hand corner is a typed out list of what is in the sleeve. THIS BOX CONTAINS: 1- Coloured 7" with a Glenn Danzig interview on radio TAANG + "THE RETURN OF THE FLY" by the Misfits. 1-Misfits bandphoto, 1-pic, 1- sticker, 1-large flyer, 1-small flyer, 1- surprise this box is limited to 50 copys(yes the spelled it wrong on the sleeve) only!!! then hand written is 6/50 and a stamped on CG face in purple. Inside - the photo is of a photo of the misfits and a poor copy at that. the flyer is the two CG horsemen, and skeleton horses, MISFITS(in white) on top and WALK AMONG YOU(white) at the bottom. with VIOLENT APATHY & NECROS(black outline). all black and white. the small flyer is of the ad from Thrasher magazine when Glenn sold the skateboard decks. the sticker is the same as the one on the front cover but printed on that ugly red orange sticker stuff. the pick is crap, and the suprise is there is no suprise. the 7" is on yellow vinyl, one side is the interview which happens to be a good interview, Samhain days. if you can't get this wonderful rare package, which i got in a trade 8 - 9 years ago, you can get the interview on a 7" call ...LODI, NJ... YOU KNOW. this uses the photo of Glenn from Evilive non numbered, its printed on light lime green paper and has a CG face upper left corner. the title is lower right corner and has the MISFITS logo going down side ways on the very right. back has a half fold up with some weird lyrics that are not for Return of the Fly. has a picture of Glenn that is Samhain days, under that says SPECIAL issue 200(underlined) only, Misfits logo in right hand corner, under that THE TAANG RADIO INTERVIEW + RETURN OF THE FLY. the copied the band memberline up typesetting from NOTLD. this vinyl is green, one side has a collage of all sorts of Misfits stuff, the other has a picture(b&w lineart) of Glenn singing and is titled THE BURIED DEAD. the rest is A.where the hell is lodi?; B.taang + return... one other item that i am not going to detail but mention is The Misfits FIEND - ZINE. this is a 48 page book that covers Misfits Samhain and Danzig. really nicely done lots of rare flyers printed up, lyrics which was novel when we didn't have the boxset, and lots of other info if you can read in German. this i have never seen for sale, it was a gift from a guy i traded with in Germany. well it's been interesting as usual, and hope this helps you diehard collectors out there. some of these pieces are not that hard to find. best bet is find some traders in Europe. that is how i got them. and you can find these guys in Maximum Rock and Roll or Flipside. only deal is a lot of snail mail has to be done. though i think it was worth it. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(tammy) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Top 5 creepy compilation Stupid 138 lyric question Re: Misfits Bible, #273 Re: Misfits Bible, #274 Assorted tid-bits Re: Misfits Bible, #274 Models, and like, stuff, huhuh Undertakers and Birthday gifts... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 16:42:54 -0500 (EST) From: Ellen Krueger Subject: rain hey there, this has almost no relevance, and isn't reallya sighting, but it bothered me, so i figured i might as well post something. last night, i was desperately trying to find a friend's house in the lovely town of sharon, massachusetts in the puring rain in a little tiny car when the directions that i had been given suddenly became completely useless. i had to guess how to get where i was going, and guess what road i was stuck on for a good forty-five minutes without a clue...that's right, route 138. what a useless place to be. all the gas station attendants i spoke to didn't know where they were either. wacky. later, lek "all's been said before. it's all been said before" -the cure ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 01:12:40 +0000 From: Aaron Lanham Subject: Does Glenny Know? I was just wondering if any of you know if ol' Glenn even knows about this Bible? I think it would be hilarious to know if he was aware of, or was reading any of the things that are said about him here. Is anyone still in contact with him? just wondering. Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 12:25:08 -0400 (AST) From: Neil Targett Subject: Come Out, Come Out Wherever You Are... Merry Xmas to everyone, especially you Bobby. Does anyone know Daniel L King? He is (or was) on this list. If you know him, or know what his latest e-mail adress is, please let me know. AND A WARNING TO EVERYONE OUT THERE IN MISFITS LAND. DON'T EVER TRADE WITH HIM. HE'LL RIP YOU OFF. ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 18:39:59 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #273 AZ said : >Yea, the 4F club!! Find her, Feel her, Fuck her, Forget her!!! Hey, isn't that a Pungent Stench song? I know it is. it's on dirty rhymes and psychotronic beats. who are the mentors? and...: >Hey, If Glenn fought Hong Kong Phooey, who would win? They are both >cartoon characters, so you cant say it wouldnt be a fair fight ..... Well, in cartoons, good always triumphs over evil elvises. top 10: (no order) Angelfuck Theme for a Jackal NOTLD AstroZombies American Nightmare Horror Hotel Return of the Fly Who Killed Marilyn Rat Fink Spinal Remains Least Favorite... sheesh, most of Earth AD.. "Exit, stage left" snagglepuss -GRRRReg- -http://homepage.interaccess.com/~ols- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:11:15 -0500 (EST) From: Bone Machine Subject: favorite Misfits songs 1--Halloween 2--She 3--I Turned Into A Martian 4--We Are 138 5--Die Die, My Darling ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:01:36 -0500 Subject: m warpigz said: <> *cough, cough* Sorry guys, but that's not even a fair question. Even though the 'Fits are my favourite band for over a decade.... Hey, Patricia, I also enjoy hearing your stories. You seem to know a bit more about the guys (and Glenn in particular) than anyone else here, so I do enjoy your stories about the early days. And I'd also like to thank Bobby for his constant posts. Anyowho says Bobby's a jerk has obviously never given him a chance. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 01:02:35 -0500 (EST) From: Brad Subject: Another one of those... Silly Misfits sightings!And it was on the Simpsons too!The sign in front of the church said "You have a F IEND in god." Now is this wacky or what? Millhouse had a devilock(breifly,his bangs all wet and pointed),the 138th episode,and now this.Weird. //Brad// "In America, first you get the Sugar. Then you get the power,then you get the women!" -Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 09:46:08 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Yuhnke Subject: Happy Secular Holidays There's no God, no Jesus, no St. Nick, and there is no bunny, I promise, it's ugly, it's stupid, don't be the same... Happy holidays, and I didn't get the Misfits boxset so fuck all of you... ;) oh and I am STILL looking for punk influenced musicians in the Phoenix AZ area, email me if interested... I hope you all have a wonderful hedonistic new year I know I will... oh and another Misfits sighting... my cost on a Matrox Mystique 2MB video card is (you guessed it) $138... coincidence? I think not JJJJJJ A SSSS YY YY NNN NN JJ A A SSS S YYYY NN N NN J JJ AAAAA S SSS YY NN N NN JJJJ AA AA SSSS YY NN NNN @Primenet.com "We'll eat fudge vanilla swirl Just you and me Punkrock Girl..." -Dead Milkmen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 96 14:09 EST From: Johnny Crunch Subject: huh? Fama said "Either way, whatever he does, it still sounds better than the stuff that >spawned it. (or is there anyone out there who actually says the Ramones >are better than the Misfits?? please tell me there isn't) ARe you for real???? The Ramones slay the Misfits! The Ramones are the reason the Misfits existed (or one of many I should say). The Ramones were professionals (mainly due to Johhny). You dont hear many, if any, Ramones shows (and i've seen 20) where the vocals cut out, the bass breaks down, the song is played in the wrong key, etc. These guys made the punk standard whereas the Misfits were nothing more than an hyped garage band. Dont get me wrong, I love the Misfits, but they dont hold a candle to the Ramones. Just my $0.02 Cap'n Crunch "Hit paydirt with KDRT" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:19:29 -0600 From: Kirt Knutsen Subject: Top 5 Here's my top 5. Hard to beleive they aren't everyone's. 1. Violent World 2. Astro Zombies 3. London Dungeon 4. Vampira 5. Die Die My Darling And coming in close are: Devil's Whorehouse, All Hell, and Bullet. Uncle Kirt ------------------------------ From: Initium9@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:32:25 -0500 Subject: creepy compilation on the creepy compilation where is th third show from, DATE YEAR PLACE? does anyone have any samhain shows on video? ------------------------------ Date: 28 Dec 1996 14:13:53 -0000 From: Christoffer Jonsson Subject: Stupid 138 lyric question Hiya... the stupid swede is bakk with yet another imbecil question... Could someone please X-plain the "we are 138" lyriks to mich??? Please... Love + Respect XDX --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: VAMPIRA Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 22:22:31 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #273 This is for CG, All I was trying to say is that you always seems to come up with intelligent responses to almost everything that is said here and then you go ruin it by calling someone a faggot or something like that. It makes you sound like some stupid punk kid is all. Secondly, I have never really responded in a negaitve manner to anything your girlfriend Patricia has said. As a matter of fact, I always read what she has to say, a lot of it is really funny shit. It's funny cause one time she responded to one of my posts in which I defended Henry Rollins and Green Day to let me know that her problems with Henry are personal and that she liked Green Day too (I hope I didn't let the cat out of the bag with that one). Thirdly, I have no illusions about what it was like back then. I dont put anyone up on a pedestal, especially people I don't know, so when you guys tell stories that are not too flattering about the scene back then, I don't doubt it. And for the record, I have never been in to any particular scene and I probably never will, so dont worry, you guys wont offended me by talking shit about the precious punk scence of the late seventies and early eighties. And lastly, Im not a kid and Im not one of them. I guess Ill go over to my girlfriends appartment now and get laid. Maybe Ill lighten up after that. Later Name and Address witheld by request "Bullets can't harm me, nothing harms me, but I know pain, I know pain, and sometimes I share it, with people like you" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:44:24 -0330 (NST) From: "Neil T. White" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #274 TOP FIVE MISFITS TUNES: 1) Astro Zombies 2) Some Kinda Hate 3) Attitude 4) Angelfuck 5) Spook City U.S.A These are my faves at the moment. I think Spook City... is a Fits song, but I'm not sure. I've got the demo version and I think it's all Danzig doing the music. Does anyone have any idea? Also, are their any good videos or books in which the Misfits are the prominent band? How do I get em? ------------------------------ From: Misfit4798@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 11:26:56 -0500 Subject: Assorted tid-bits Alright I have to say up front that this post is all random misfits babbling. First off in the movie Mars Attacks there is a misfits sighting, that someone mentioned last time. There is also another unlikely Misfits sighting in the movie "Space Jam". No I did not go of my own intent to see space jam. On thanksgiving weekend there was a sneak preview of Mars Attacks with space jam. Well the sighting is this. During the actual basketball game, on the scoreboard the team the Monstars used the Famous monsters of filmland/Misfits font. It actually looked like it said Misfits. Also to back Chris Ternes up, if anyone has a video or audio copy of the Capital Ballroom show, I am in dire need, and have been looking for months for any copy of it. One way to tell if you have it is during "static age", the feedback from the monitors is horendous, and Michale only sings parts of this song. The next song "tv casualty" has no vocals except for Jerry's back-up vocals. After that Michale comes out and announces that the staff of the club won't turn on the monitors until they find out if the soundguy is o.k. The Misfits continued on with michale until "skulls" when he was arrested, or shall I say escorted backstage. Jerry did most of the vocals until the first person was pulled onstage to butcher, I mean sing "bullet", that lucky soul was me. The band did about 6 or 8 songs with fiends singing. D-Rod sang "American Nightmare", or at least it looked like him. He came from backstage, and compared to his pictures on Mark's www page it looked like him. A friend of mine fron Fairfax sang "She" the final song of the night. Although he told me later that he asked Jerry to play "Braineaters", and Jerry told him they didn't know that one. The show was on August 3, 1996 at the "Capital Ballroom" in Washington D.C. Well sorry this post is so long, I've got to go. I'm going to the Clutch/Agnostic Front/Warzone show at the Capital Ballroom. If anyone has a copy of the 8-3-96 Misfits show at the Capital Ballroom show e-mail me. Again sorry this post is so long. -Later Drew ------------------------------ From: "VAMPIRA" Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 18:33:47 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #274 Hey, instead of listing your five fave songs why not list your five fave songs from the new live set? A lot of you guys have had the chance to see them live or have heard the shocking return cd so what do you think? My top five are (in no particular order) Die Die My Darling Comeback Hollywood Babylon The Haunting Last Caress/Hybrid Moments (tie) Honourable mention to Static Age and TV Casualty Later ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:35:26 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: Models, and like, stuff, huhuh John Ward spake: > Beavis and Butthead ... were tripping in the desert > ... > hot rod ... can be bought as a model, and the box says ... Ratt Fink. not to mention the desert halluciantion scene was (art directed?) by Rob Zombie. i wouldn't doubt he put Doyle in there. but did they have to use the artwork from the back cover of LA SEXORCISTO? yawn... how about something new? the Ratfink models can be found at most any GOOD hobby model shops. there are also some companies (Revell) that are rereleasing models from the 50s and 60s in their original artwork boxes; i seem to remember seeing old Ratfink models. in the Star Wars bounty hunter anthology, they reveal Boba Fett has some straight-edge qualities!?! =) the baddest mofo in the galaxy don't need spice to fux shit up... btw, unless you like 31 minutes of the same two notes, avoid the USA release of the SACRIFICE single. nothing daring going on in those remixes. Must mix, trust mix, boring mix. not even a B-side on the album. :( "ahp! ahp!" ryq piett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 23:52:20 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Undertakers and Birthday gifts... Hello to all the fiends... First off i have to give a personal thank you to Justin since he had an effect on my Birthday gifts this year. Most of you remember about a couple of months ago that Justin and I could not agree about the Undertaker, and the fact that there are two of them. Well because i asked my sisters friend about the Undertaker a couple of times they thought i liked this guy. Well what do you think happens when my birthday comes around, yes i now have life size stand up of the Undertaker, a t-shirt, some other nick nacks, and the threat that i will be getting something personally sent by the Undertaker himself. What can i say, but THANK YOU JUSTIN!!! Patricia, i think Jim should video tape You mopping to that song and send it to Glenn;) though I'm sure that any proud fiend would pay $19.95 to see you mopping and singing Left Hand Black. Shit i just had a thought, that can be on the next Danzig Home Video. Or better yet, MTV! Yes i think the whole Undertaker thing is getting to me. Misfits 101... Evilive Fiend Club Numbered Edition. I have to say i have never seen a bootleg of any of the Evilive 7"s. Though that does not mean don't worry or thing it can't happen. I will give a total detailed run down of what i have. The fiend club edition was hand numbered. plus the back art is different from the regular copies, and the front cover uses real photography and not the lineart. Front cover - Top left and right corners have half body CG's and they are both facing in. between then is the Misfits logo (FMOF kind) Under the logo is EVILIVE in an old english typeface (not a very readable one at that). The photo is from a live show, you can see Robo in the back at the drums, then going left to right, we have Jerry with his head down and no shirt, Doyle in the middle wearing a Vampira t-shirt and his two armbands, Glenn at the end with his Skeleton shirt and gloves with one hand reaching out and the other w/ microphone to his lips. you can see two rows worth of audience. the lower left hand corner is dark with a half of a person next to it. over Doyle's head you can see the Misfits logoon one of the speaker or something. the second logo is closer to Glenn. The back of the sleeve is Glenn's art work. Good size CG with hand holding a book, says Misfits on the spine and about a 1/4" is where the Number is for that 7". Its in ballpoint pen, black ink. on the back cover of the book is PLAN9 at the top, a skull and cross bones in the very left hand upper corner, a Horror Business CG stamped onto the book, and RECORDED LIVE, NOV.- DEC. 81 . on top from left to right are several creatures starting behind the head of the main CG. the last one on the right is the bat that he used on the lyric sheet for Halloween(just the head this time). the lower right hand corner is a table and on it is a Creature shaped candle holder with a candle in it burning. next to the holder is a dragon where you see the head and a tail the rest of the body would be behind the holder. Under the head of the dragon is a skull with horns and vampire teeth. written on the table is curved around the bottom of the holder is PL1019. the neat thing about this whole scene is Glenn has lots of little dots that where they are closer to the flame of the candle they are spread apart and where they are far away they come closer together. it gives a nice halftone effect, ie brighter nearer the flame and darker the farther you get from the flame. Vinyl - Side A, the label is yellow and black, the same two CG's used on the cover are face to face on the label on the left one on the right. top Misfits logo black with yellow outline, center is a yellow cirlce and where the CG's hit we get yellow, ie faces yellow, outline over hoods are yellow, hands are yellow. left in side of the CG is PL1019 - A; right, yellow rectangle with PLAN9 in black over the CG's body right under the chin the A in PLAN falls. Bottom - yellow type in black rectangles some yellow outlining, 20 EYES, NIGHT OF THE LIVEING DEAD, ASTRO ZOMBIES, HORROR BUSINESS. Etched in the vinyl inner rings, PL-1019 - A. Side B - the label is all yellow. top, Misfits logo in black then outlined first in yellow and then in black. left side, PLAN9 in yellow and in a black coffin shape, 9 is where the head would go. Under that, black square with yellow type, C(in circle) & P, Hell - bent (under that) music, PL1019 - B. right side CG face and hood only. bottom in black rectangles no outlining, yellow type, LONDON DUNGEON, ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE, WE ARE 138. Pressed into vinyl inner rings is MASTERDISK. Etched in is PL -1017 - B. Also if you where lucky to get this intact, you should have a flyer. THis is printed on light yellow paper and looks like the back cover of the regular Evilive. though to play it on the safe side, Misfits logo on top starting in the very left hand upper corner. this is black then the paper color and outlined in black. it sits over a spider web. under that is the same CG that is on the back of the sleeve and on his cloak going side ways is EVILIVE in the old english type. he is holding the same book but where the Horror Business CG is on the back cover of the book there is now a skull with horns and vampire teeth just like the larger skull used on the Halloween sleeve. on the bottom of the flyer is typesetting in black, SIE-A AND LONDON DUNGEON, FROM THE RITZ, N.Y.C. DEC.17. (EVERTHING IS SET IN TWO LINE THEN WITH A SPACE INBETWEEN, THEN THE NEXT TWO LINES ARE SET) ALL HELL AND 138 FROM THE, ON BROADWAY S.F.,CA.NOV.20; GUEST VOCALS + GROWLS ON 138, "HENRY-HECKUVA GUY-ROLLONS", COVER PHOTO:AL FLIPSIDE, BACK COVER ART:GLENN DANZIG. as for price, i really did not pay cash on this i did pure trade and it was only one 7", not that i can think of what it was. Though i have seen them from $60 - $150. i think if you look hard enough you could find it under a hundred. well next time we talk regular Evilive. Till Monday, hope everyone has a great weekend. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Misfits and Matt Groenig(sp) Danzig and my past comments Re: Misfits Bible, #275 Nice, quiet and Peaceful, who the hell am i kidding, like that will last ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 03:11:08 -0500 From: markennedy Subject: Jerry Update Jerry called me earlier tonight and had a lot to say: The New Album ------------- The album will have somewhere between 18 and 20 songs and will open with the instrumental intro to Dr. Phibes Rises Again which they've been using at all the recent shows. So far, the instrumental tracks for all the songs have been recorded, and Michale's vocals will be recorded in January. The band is recording at Dreamland studio in New York, which apparently was originally a church. The album itself will feature the new Crimson Ghost design by Jurek (used on all recent Misfits shirts) as the cover. It will have a white Misfits logo at the top and will be in the format of the proposed (and then cancelled) Max's X-mas album - basically an imitation of the old Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine with the song titles listed on the side. The CD booklet will unfold into a poster done by Basil Gogos (who did the Max's X-mas art) with the lyrics on the other side. The current title of the album is Misfits: Volume I or Issue I. Jerry wants to name all the albums in this format so that in the end there will be a sort of 'encyclopedia' of Misfits albums. He promised over and over again that this is the best album he's ever worked on, and he sounded really excited about its release. Right now they're aiming for an April 8th release, but it's possible that it could be as late as April 22nd. Geffen ------ The Geffen deal is for distribution only. Any other stuff (promotion, merchandise, fan club, touring, etc) is still handled by the band. The deal itself is for 6 albums with re-negotiation after each album is released. Fiend Club ---------- The new postcard should be out soon to all current Fiend Club members. The card itself looks great. It will serve as a simple update with tour dates and some info on the signing with Geffen. Since Fiend Club membership is and will continue to be free, Jerry expects that future mailings will be limited to postcards or flyers. His plan is to have membership cards made up so that FC members can come to shows with their cards and pick up large packages (if/when the Fiend Club makes them) in person. By the way, membership packages will be sent out to the rest of the fiends who signed up for the club before February of 1996. The packages were originally sent out the first week of February, but only to East Coast and European fiends. Now, the rest of the members signed up by that point should finally receive their packages. Tour ---- There will be no New Year's Eve show and the band won't be playing in the US until around June 1st, after they finish up with their tour of Europe. No US dates have been set yet and everything is tentative. The band will probably tour from June until Halloween, in 3 legs, much as they did this past summer. Tim Burton ---------- Jerry saw that some of you were wondering about Tim Burton's "Mars Attacks" in recent MBibles. He (Jerry) sent a copy of the box set and a demo of the song to Tim's partner back in the spring and never heard anything from them. He then had a copy sent directly to Burton by a friend at Geffen who knew him. This finally got to him in October, at which time it was too late to be included in the movie. Jerry faxed me the following messages for the bible: Letter From Jerry Only, 12/29/96: "The possibility of failure always exists but failure is inevitable if you don't try... Always try your best! As is the case with "Mars Attacks." We thank Tim Burton for his time. Jerry Only" Letter From Tim Burton, 11/11/96: "I am a big fan of the Misfits and I appreciated your sending the song "Mars Attacks." I truly enjoyed listening to it. Unfortunately, due to the last minute nature of the film, I did not have the time to use the song in a place where I felt it would do it justice. Sincerely yours, Tim Burton" Set Lists --------- With so many new songs and so many old songs, the band now has to choose a new set list. They are probably going to drop 20 old songs and replace them with 20 new songs, so at this point, they want to know what 20 old Misfits songs the fans still want to hear live. The will still start the set with "Halloween" and he promised that they would even start doing "Braineaters" as an encore. So, if you'd like to help the band out, please email me (msk4m@virginia.edu) with your top 20 old Misfits songs. Please use a subject header of "Top 20" to make things easier. I'll send the overall list to the band. Finally ------- Jerry wishes the best for all the Misfits Bible subscribers, and said "1997 is our year" over and over again. He pointed out that the Misfits have done more in the past year then they had in their previous 7 years together as a band. He also promised that the next album (after the one in April) will be even better and that there are more good things to come. In his words, "the bottom line is hard work." Look for an interview with Jerry in the January issue of Bass Player magazine. mark ------------------------------ From: markennedy Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #274 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:05:55 -0500 (EST) > From: Aaron Lanham > Subject: Does Glenny Know? > > I was just wondering if any of you know if ol' Glenn even knows about > this Bible? I think it would be hilarious to know if he was aware of, or > was reading any of the things that are said about him here. Is anyone > still in contact with him? just wondering. About a year or so ago, we had a subscriber on here named Del James, who had written for magazines like Rip. He used to show John Christ copies of the MBible. > From: Neil Targett > Subject: Come Out, Come Out Wherever You Are... > > Merry Xmas to everyone, especially you Bobby. Does anyone know Daniel L > King? He is (or was) on this list. If you know him, or know what his > latest e-mail adress is, please let me know. AND A WARNING TO EVERYONE OUT > THERE IN MISFITS LAND. DON'T EVER TRADE WITH HIM. HE'LL RIP YOU OFF. Daniel has disappeared. All his email addresses seem to have been cancelled, and he is no longer a subscriber to this mailing list. However, long ago, I traded with him and had no problems with him. He was a nice guy back then. It's possible that he has changed his ways. > From: Initium9@aol.com > Subject: creepy compilation > > on the creepy compilation where is th third show from, DATE YEAR PLACE? 3/20/83; Channel Club; Boston, MA Also, for those of you with answers to the Violent World contest, send them to tomb@caroline.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 09:31:35 -0500 (EST) From: Crimson Ghost Subject: feliz anno nuevo (sp?) just a quick note this week. I'm up in NJ for the holidays. WHat happened to ya Art? I emailed you, at work and at home... I'll send the gg allin vid to you via snail mail Neil Targett said: >Merry Xmas to everyone, especially you Bobby. Does anyone know Daniel L >King? He is (or was) on this list. If you know him, or know what his >latest e-mail adress is, please let me know. AND A WARNING TO EVERYONE OUT >THERE IN MISFITS LAND. DON'T EVER TRADE WITH HIM. HE'LL RIP YOU OFF. This doesn't suprise me in the least. I've gone round and round with this *kid* several times. He's the one that sent the message to me with Eerie's forged address. He's a little asshole with nothing better to do. Don't bother with him it's not worth it. I'm sure he'll respond to you now that you've said something in public, he'll make some ridiculous excuse like he did when I confronted him. He's a loser. Someone was talking about Jerry and how he screwed Robo or something. This isn't the case. Jerry has taken care of Robo since they met. I can't remember specifics but it was something along these lines. Robo was in England (I think) with Black Flag, he was on a student visa that ran out. Black FLag left him there. Jerry & Glenn financed Robo's trip back, and then gave him the drummer's throne. Jerry also gave Robo a job working at Proedge. From what I understand (and this is hearsay) Robo has since moved back to Columbia to be with his family. I believe he opened a business with his Misfits money. but like I said that's hearsay, but I know that's something Robo would have done. He wanted nothing to do with being in the Misfits. Food for thought... If Earth AD is Glenn's creation Why is it called Earth AD. AD literally means "Anno Domini" or translated "The year of our Lord" *not* After Death as most would believe. Glenn wouldn't name an album after a God he doesn't believe in would he? more on Wednesday.... CG -- othello@magicnet.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:33:21 -0500 From: PRH Subject: i get a sensation..... when I hear that goddam Adam West EP 'Dance Session' on purple vinyl yet Tammygal MAN! what a great band! almost as good as the other DC gods the Assbeaters whose WeePals Club comic everyone over 18 needs to experience. Write to Mark at MMellon@fdic.gov to inquire, discreetly of course. The band is pretty fuckin cool too. firstly even.... >From: Aaron Lanham >I was just wondering if any of you know if ol' Glenn even knows about etc.etc etc.....I believe Glenn is out there lurking ala EVB. He claims to have technophobia but as we all know he says a lot of things that just aint so. Nothing wrong with that, when I was 4 yrs old, I used to tell our neighbors that I was born with 3 legs but one was lost in a fire. I'm so proud of that. My first lie! and thank Goofy for Art Z..... >From: Johnny Crunch >Fama said >>or is there anyone out there who actually says the Ramones >>are better than the Misfits?? please tell me there isn't) > >ARe you for real???? The Ramones slay the Misfits! The Ramones are the >reason the Misfits existed (or one of many I should say). The Ramones were >professionals (mainly due to Johhny). You dont hear many, if any, Ramones >shows (and i've seen 20) where the vocals cut out, the bass breaks down, the >song is played in the wrong key, etc. These guys made the punk standard >whereas the Misfits were nothing more than an hyped garage band. Dont get me >wrong, I love the Misfits, but they dont hold a candle to the Ramones. Just >my $0.02 Fuck yeah. I saw the Ramones rehearse once and the only thing I can compare it to is the 21 gun salute at Arlington Cemetery. They were fast, they were perfect. They worked very hard, and didnt fuck up. If mistakes were made, they fixed em. Punk rock isnt aboutbeing lazy and sloppy, read what Glenn says in the new Metal Edge. It was/oughta be rebellion against wretched excess. I know how you want it mama, hot quick and tight! the MC5 got it right in 1970. Dig it. I saw the Misfits rehearse endlessly dozens of times in the old days....they werent exactly driven, lets say. They were more interested in being out of NJ and in the wild big city. Bobby was a party animal, but Dave Nakey, SID he wasnt. More on that later. >From: Christoffer Jonsson >Could someone please X-plain the "we are 138" lyriks to mich??? >Love + Respect >XDX Do you dare me, Mark? >>From: VAMPIRA >This is for CG, > All I was trying to say is that you always seems to come up >with intelligent responses to almost everything that is said here and >then you go ruin it by calling someone a faggot or something like >that. It makes you sound like some stupid punk kid is all. Secondly, >I have never really responded in a negaitve manner to anything your >girlfriend Patricia has said. As a matter of fact, I always read what >she has to say, a lot of it is really funny shit. It's funny cause >one time she responded to one of my posts in which I defended Henry >Rollins and Green Day to let me know that her problems with Henry are >personal and that she liked Green Day too (I hope I didn't let the >cat out of the bag with that one). Baby, thats because CG *IS* a faggot!!!! hehehehe I do like Green Day too, I dont care what anyone says. I still like Grand Funk sometimes too. >From: "Neil T. White" > Also, are their any good >videos or books in which the Misfits are the prominent band? How do I get em? I dunno about GOOD books, but theres a book called 'PUNK DIARY' which is by some guy out of Texas on St Martins press so that means its findable which mentions the Misfits failed tour with the Damned in the UK. the ponderous tome by Garfield the Brat 'Get in the Van' mentions Glenzig in a lewd and lascivious manner ;P And as for movies, you can see the official Punk Mag copy of Horror Biz (one of the black vinyl ones!) in the movie 'DOA--a Rite of Passage' by Lech Kowalski. the Misfits themselves are not in the movie, tho I tried. >From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) >Patricia, i think Jim should video tape You mopping to that song and send >it to Glenn;) though I'm sure that any proud fiend would pay $19.95 to see >you mopping and singing Left Hand Black. Shit i just had a thought, that >can be on the next Danzig Home Video. Or better yet, MTV! > Talk about the decline of western civilization! no wonder MTV is being removed from TCI's roster in central Florida. If you want a visual image, picture Jamie Lee Curtis with a mommy belly hangin out over her thong (and wearing glasses, too) doing that. Horrible. disgustin enuff for the Misfits even. happy neu jahr, you all, me and CG are gonna go see the Gregg Allman band and the new Molly Hatchet!!!! woo fuckin hoo! "you drive us wild, we'll drive you crazy!" some great man sang that recently patricia ragan denmom ------------------------------ From: KWard93399@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:30:02 -0500 Subject: Was that all?!? Okay, I'm pissed. Now, some of us (Okay, just me!) have nothing better to do than read The Misfits' Bible. MB #275 was so short I had it read top to bottom in less than the time it took me to eat a large pepperoni pizza from Pizza Hut. I understand that most of you aren't Atheists, and the rest of you spend time with your families during these holidays, but c'mon! There were like 10 posts! Now I have to go read the new stories in alt.sex.pedophilia just to have something to do. Just kidding. (At least that's what you all think! He he.) But I have a question for you guys. My formner band and I are reuniting to re-record our album. (The original tapes burned.) And we are covering one of The Undead'd songs. Only problem is, we can't decide which one! So, everyone e-mail me at kward93399@aol.com and let me know your vote on: Put Your Clothes Back On Nightmare Social Reason Ken "We're the proud, the few, The Descendents. Picking our butts tonight." ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: A REAL Misfits Sighting Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:32:19 -0500 If any of you have gone to your local mall during the holidays you might have noticed one of those seasonal stands in the middle of the mall that only sells calenders. Well, if you know what I am referring to, go there and see if they have a MTV Real World calander. The month of January shows a picture of that guy Andre from the New York cast that was in that weird sounding band. In the picture he has a black Crimson Ghost t-shirt on with a button up polo-type shirt over it. Only a tiny part of the skull can be seen so only a trained eye would be able to notice it. Pretty scary. Later, Mark B. ------------------------------ From: Initium9@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:59:58 -0500 Subject: my top 5 here's my list 1. Devilock 2. All Hell Breaks Loose 3. Death Comes Ripping 4. Green Hell 5. We Bite I like the heavier music Does anyone have any Samhain shows on video? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:54:43 -0800 From: Justin Deming Subject: Undertaker Tammy, wow, hey, no problem! Good thing we didn't get into an arguement over Goldust! A local record store, Vintage Vinyl ( http://www.vintagevinyl.com/ ) has a nice selection of old Misfits boots, mostly old. They just sold their copies of Nacranomicon (sp-sowhat?) and Shocking Return, and they still have a few copies of Vampira and Phsychomania. I'm talking CDs, BTW. The average price is about $25. Too bad I'm a poor white boy! - Justin -- Dork: The Home Page DDDDDD OOOO RRRRRRR KK KK DD DD OO OO RR RR KK KK DD DD OO OO RR RR KK KK DD DD OO OO RRRRRR KKKK DD DD OO OO RR RR KK KKK DDDDDD OOOO RR RR KK KK http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/ -- The Internet Pro Wrestling Association IIIIIIII PPPPPPP WWW WW WWW AA II PP PP WW WWWW WW AAAA II PP PP WW WW WW WW AA AA II PPPPPP WWW WWW WWW WWW AAAAAAAA II PP WW WW WW WW AA AA IIIIIIII PP WWW WWW AA AA http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/ipwa/ -- ...and don't forget my clients, for all of your questions about your future! Areturus - St. Rose http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/areturus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:43:32 -0800 From: mike inzerillo Subject: No ride isn't that kinda weird? Mr. Jim was the only Misfits drummer to use a ride cymbol. Joey, Googy, and Robo didn't even have one. A ride is standard for a drumset. You can hear it on Hollywood Babylon and on half of Bullet. ------------------------------ From: Rocky6x@aol.com Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:27:33 -0500 Subject: undertaker vs. tes777 maybe the undertaker will tombstone you and bobby , now i would pay to see that, and misfits sightings on movies and tv and wherever is starting to be kinda gay like bobby ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:35:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #275 Neil said >Merry Xmas to everyone, especially you Bobby. Does anyone know Daniel especially bobby?! what about me? who the hell is bobby?! top five live: (whoah a rhyme) 1.comeback I turned into a martian tv casualty halloween die die my darling "two girls for every boy" -GRRRReg- -http://homepage.interaccess.com/~ols- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:16:01 -0800 From: blag jesus Subject: Return of the fucking fly hey Tammy, i was reading a back issue of the bible and i noticed you counted how many grooves that were on the beginning of a 7 inch , what the hell is your problem? go count the grooves on every single piece of vinyl that the misfits released, maybe that will keep your hole shut for a while, by the way i have a misfits sighting to report, i went to my car and found a misfits tape!!! these sightings are retarded , but then again you guys probably dig bobby steele, later choads ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:27:56 -0800 From: blag jesus Subject: i am the Lord!!! hey tammy i am the lord jesus christ, blag jesus to you, not gg, not you, so i can say what ever i want to, still counting those album grooves?, to kward9332 whatever, you are retarded, the era after bobby steele kicks ass, if you cant realize that then you must be a bobby steele choad smoker amd rollins didnt ruin black flag, greg ginn just couldnt write any more as-cool material as the years went on, so dont blame henry and i think damaged kicks ass, rise above is one of their best songs and hank is singing on it you dork , and evildieff, you must have been to some bogus misfits shows because they always kicked ass live, if you didnt like their raw ness go buy the new danzig dance lp, loser, maybe you saw the undead, and dave naked or whatever that choad's name is , well, he is Bobby steele incognito because he is too much of a pussy to post in his real name, lol, and if he isnt bobby well then he is just as homo as bobby , lol, :) have a nice day, lol everyone pray to your saviour, lol fuckers ------------------------------ From: Initium9@aol.com Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:46:14 -0500 Subject: Fonts Does anyone have the Famous Monsters Of Filmland font or the font that Samhain is written in. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:19:01 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: you fools... ...who are posting your top ten lists: the 7" version of NOTLD is OBVIOUSLY the best Misfits song. onto the Ramones: Johnny Crunch, sure they may be a better *live* band than the Misfits, but as for them influencing the Misfits, I never denied that. In fact, I said exactly that. But I think the Ramones have a lot of crappy songs, whereas the Misfits have almost 100% awesome songs. The Misfits a glorified garage band? maybe Glenn agreed with you, and that's why he claimes to have started Samhain, to be more "professional." But that doesn't change the fact that the Misfits are better. so that's that. ohh, and as for the Ramones being a huge part of punk blah blah blah: I don't give a rat's ass about punk, and I never will. and that's the bottom line, 'cause Stone Cold said so. "For I am the super-predator of the World Wrestling Federation -- -- and I am the Master -- -- and I am the Ruler -- of the World! -Sycho ------------------------------ Date: Sun Dec 29 02:12:38 1996 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Misfits and Matt Groenig(sp) I just read this interview with the Descendents, and it mentioned that among other things that Allroy was the inspiration possibly for Bart Simpson, and that Matt G, the Simpsons creator, did reviews of records like the Descendents back in the early 80's (he's a fan in other words) So I find it highly likely that Matt G is a misfits fan. Ta da. oh and, check out this link: http://www.spy.net/~allroy/jam --- --------------==============================------------------ Got up this morning to make some coffee; Everything sucks today. http://www.spy.net/~allroy/ ------------------------------ From: WarPigz@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:59:28 -0500 Subject: Danzig and my past comments Well I'll try to make posting a reg but here's some shit I'd like to relate. DID YOU KNOW: James Hetfield(yah, of Metallica and I don't want to hear no shit) supplied backing vocals on the 1st Danzig album. What I read, it was Twist of Cain and Am I Demon but I can't hear any backing vocals on Am I Demon. Also, I got blackacidevil, finally, and...? Well, I like it. Very experimental on Glenn's behalf but It still sounds like Danzig to me. That Jerry Cantrell touch is great even if it isn't necessary, Glenn does good on the guitar bits. I didn't even know he played 'til I went through some guitar magazines in a corner. Another thing I can't believe I missed was a review of the Misfits boxed set in the magazine "guitar"(well I'd have to check again.). It basically just credits The Misfits as "Glenn Danzig's old band" and that only. Still, it's nice to have. Also on a statement from my last posting I said I didn't give a fuck if I should pay respect to the stooges and minor threat. I was just throwing around names when I wrote that. It could have been any other two punk bands. I was just typing first thoughts. Another thing I'd like to talk about is Earth A.D.. To tell you the truth, I like it. But I also like thrash. It's gotta be a taste thing. I have a Slayer interview and when Kerry King was asked why he didn't cover a Misfits song on Undissputed Attitude he replied on how tough it was to work with Glenn. Leave that as it may, I would of loved to hear Tom Araya singing a 'fits tune. If any of you guys have the album Undissputed Attitude, who originally sings "I Hate You" and "Guilty of Being White". I love those two songs! Well that's it. See you guys later. Tom AKA: War Pigz "Fuck it all fucking no regrets" -Metallica "Damage, Inc." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 17:59:22 +0000 From: Brandon Laing Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #275 I saw the misfits in dc in may a while back..It was an amazing show..They played every song they ever had except for like 3 songs..they played for ever..It was so great.. Well my top 5 in no order Some kinda hate who killed marilyn astro zombies skulls halloween ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:14:44 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Nice, quiet and Peaceful, who the hell am i kidding, like that will last... Hello fiends... Hey, Ken. we don't have to eat at Fudruckers for another year!;) Well for all of you fiends that want Misfits 101 as part of Misfits Central you are getting your wish. After i finish this off you will have each description easy to access on the web. Being that i understand why some of you did not want to save copies of the bible. As for today you get the regular Evilive 7". This has to be one the cheapest and the only 7" i got from someone in Florida. It cost me $30 straight and no trades. Plus now my copy even has silver drawn snot coming out of Doyle's nose, I guess Doyle was having to much fun signing this 7". Front of sleeve: th top looks just like the numbered fiend club edition. Two CG's (boy Jim you get around, they plaster your face on everything.) facing each other, with the Misfits logo in the middle, EVILIVE starting at one CG's hand ending at the others. The rest of the sleeve is depending on which sleeve you got, i have the Glenn sleeve, there is a Jerry one, and a Doyle one. The Glenn one has Glenn bent down with the microphone singing with a fiend in the audience. with Doyle to the right side. it is not a photo but lineart. Though i think there is a second Glenn one since he has a different on in a photo of his collection of Misfits records. From what i can see it has him wearing the skull with wings shirt, standing and singing. as for the others i have see pictures but do not remember them vividly. The back sleeve looks like the flyer from the first Evilive i described. Misfits logo upper left corner, over spider web. CG under that, holding the book, which has a skull with horns and vampire teeth instead of the Horror Business CG. The type starts under the I and T in Misfits. says: TO ALL THE FIENDS, GRRRR....; FANGS( type is a horror type for FANGS but not the real Famous Monsters, which sadly is no longer run by Forest J.) Closer to the book is SIDE-A AND LONDON DUNGEON; FROM THE RITZ,N.Y.C. DEC.17; ALL HELL AND 138 FROM THE; ON BROADWAY S.F.,CA.NOV.20; GUEST VOCALS+GROWLS ON 138; "HENRY-HECKUVA GUY-ROLLINS"; COVER PHOTOS:ANGELA ORANGEO; BACK COVER ART:GLENN DANZIG. The left bottom corner has the PL1019, and the right bottom corner has a black bat shape with PLAN9. The vinyl label looks just like the first Evilive i described for all of you last bible. There are said to be orange labels too. I have heard there are more orange than yellow labels, but at this count i have two yellows. So don't freak out if you get an orange label. Plus there are tons of stories about the numbers as far as pressings. in one source, i heard 800 numbered editions, in the interview from Thrasher mag with Glenn he said 1000. who knows, and i doubt that we will ever get an accurate count. So far asking Glenn has only turned into a disagreement on another 7". Well next time we talk Beware. The bootlegs on that can make you nuts, i know, i went through three Bewares till i got the one i have now. Later to all the fiendies!?! Boy, has it been nice and peaceful for the past couple days! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Yah, Danzig & more again Chutspa, that's what he fucking has... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Lorey Subject: Re: WAU Promo Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 11:54:26 EST FS Orig promo copy of Walk Among Us - Wax VG+, cover VG, wear on spine & corners, top right corner clipped. Contains orig Fiend club insert as well as Slash/Ruby "Media Communique" Misfits Bio on orange paper, bio on both sides. $100.00 PPD includes insurance. info: lorey@bu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 11:19:41 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Earth After Dinner... Okay, as promised here's my take on Earth AD... As I said on Monday... The first curious thing is the title itself. Earth AD, which of course means "Earth in the year of our Lord." Funny how Glenn always denounces organized religion (including Satanism) then he goes and names the album this. It's also pretty much confirmed that prior to this album Jerry was struggling to gain power of the band. Another common fact... Glenn is a control freak. Time and time again Glenn has shown that he *must* have complete control over anything that he's involved in. In the case of the Misfits this is not a bad thing. As long as Glenn was in control they were a kick ass band. A quote from the most rabid Misfits collector I know: "ya know, I hadn't thought about the literal meaning of "Earth AD" before - wonder how I'd missed that.... definitely blame the title on Jerry who certainly goes more for the religious angle "(i.e. "Kryst") Here's the crux of the biscuit... Jerry forced the band into the hardcore arena, *NOT* Glenn. I really believe that Glenn did this album to keep his dearest friend (Jerry) happy. Here's my proof: Listen to "Initium." Early Samhain *is* the next logical step musically from 'Walk among us.' Coincidence? I think not. I don't think that it's a far reach to believe that Glenn did 'AD' to placate Jerry, to use it as an excuse to quit the band and go out on his own. Glenn is not a musician. he knows that his greatest asset is his voice. Why would he choose a musical style that doesn't showcase his voice? Another quote from that collector: "Bingo! He isn't even singing, just screaming along to keep up except maybe on "Bloodfeast" (the only song on it I remotely like - not coincidentally the slowest!)" Case in point: Listen to AD then listen to any live stuff around the same period of time. The tempo of the songs is forced. As a musician myself I've never heard of a band who's singer set the tempo. The speed is almost always set by the drummer & bass player. The drummer, Robo, a known hardcore drummer, and of course Jerry. Jerry seems to think that the faster you play something the better *he* sounds. He's got to be the only bass player I know that plays out of a stack of 12's. What's up with that? In numerous practice sessions I sat and watched as they played classic tunes like 'Last Caress' so fast that they were barely recognizable. Come on 'Last Caress' is a true punk song, built on 50's style chord progressions and phrasings. Then Jerry does Kryst the cocksucker, which is of course the next musical step from EAD. Fast, furious, and boring. Then come the "New" Misfits...Kryst with a different name. Obviously the next musical step from Kryst. No I don't think Glenn particularly liked the direction the Misfits took with EAD, but he was outnumbered. He couldn't sing it, and judging from his following efforts, it just wasn't him. Glenn is not a shouter 'ala Henry Rollins, who couldn't *sing* a note if his life depended on it. Glenn is a true *vocalist* in the tradition of Elvis & Roy Orbison. His following releases prove this. Jerry likes it loud and fast, everything he's ever done proves this. When I hear Glenn sing a song like 'Some kinda hate' then listen to 'demonomania' it makes me want to cry. I haven't listened to Glenn's new effort but Drod did give me a sample of it over the phone, he played me the sacrifice remixes, musically I wanted to vomit, but lyrically Glenn still sounds great. Honestly, all I could think of was four foot nine inch nails. I you replace his lyrics with "I want to fuck you like an animal..." Just a thought... Musically if the record is anything like what I heard, it's nothing that Trent Reznor hasn't done, and furthermore it's shades of "Jesus built my hotrod' by Ministry. Not that there's anything wrong with this mind you, it still showcases Glenn's voice, and if you like Techno/industrial go out and buy it. How did I get on Glenn's new record? Jesus. Let's hear some feedback on the EAD opinion... I'll turn this over to Patricia now (see she is bedeviled with breasts...): GodDAMn these things! I guess that means you have to call an exorcist to do a breast reduction in Danzigland? I'm sorry, I dont mean to continually make fun of Glenn's lyrics, but face it, some of em are pretty silly and just beggin to be made light of, ala 'Glenn's Bakery'! (see Bible 138 for the reference in Lord Kenatos Graf's bio) hmm Glenn's influences as far as I knew? back in the Misfitdays, it was equally Brit/Powerpunk (Jam, Adverts Rezillos,Wire, etc) as well as the Ramones I guess. He was a big NY early proto punk scene fan, he liked the unavoidable VU, Dolls and I remember playing 'TeenageHead' by the Flamin Groovies for him and him remarking favorably on it. Equally tho he liked the whole rockabilly thing too, being revived in 4/4 time by the Rockats and Robert Gordon (the Stray Cats were still the Bloodless Pharoahs then--same big hair, but no testicles discernable by yrs truly)-- I think the vocal influences could be detected then and now. If he was listening to stuff that melodic back then, why should he have changed so drastically in 1982? and then change right back to the more melodic progressive path for Samhain? I dunno, i just see EAD as a knockoff for Glenzig. The most annoying of the Samhain stuff (Kiss of Steel, Human Pony (snicker) Girl) blows 'Wolfsblood' away. Naming a song 'We Bite' is sort of ironic, isnt it? "...She's all you'd ever want she's the kind I'd like to flaunt and take to dinner..." - Anka PRH - Desdmona@magicnet.net CG - - othello@magicnet.net ------------------------------ From: Pdbedr@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 03:25:11 -0500 Subject: Fav Live Stuff hello fiends, > From: "VAMPIRA" >Hey, instead of listing your five fave songs why not list your five >fave songs from the new live set? Good one I like this. Well i find that the more I go i really get into the new stuff more then the old. I mean they play it so well and it sounds so natural. What do any of you think about that so here my fav (it would be all new stuff but I have only seen 4 new songs done live) The haunting Black Light The Hunger Mars Attacks Halloween later D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:09:41 -0800 From: ADAMN#15 Subject: INCOHERENT RAMBLINGS I haven't posted in a while.....but I have some comments to make. 1) It is sort of sad to see the 'fits eliminating songs from their set list. I guess it is for the best because they won't rely on the songs Glenn wrote. They want to make their own mark as THE MISFITS. 2) Mark, whatever happened to the rules you made a while back about irrelevent posts? There are some people on here that utilize the bible as their own forum for attacking others. It is almost getting to the point like last time. If anyone out there has a beef with someone else, flame them directly (like some people did to me this summer :->). Personally, I don't want to read people bickering back and forth like disgruntled family members. 3) Just wondering, but how the hell do you pronounce Michale? Is it like Michael or Mikhail? That is all I have to add. Laters...... ADAMN (#15) SHAME ________________________________________ * Who The Hell Ate My Balls? * *http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4165/* *________________________________________* p.s. What happened to Wes Thomas? ________________________________________ * Who The Hell Ate My Balls? * *http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4165/* *________________________________________* ------------------------------ Date: 30 DEC 96 08:25:23 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: my band beat up your band Tom, AKA War Pigz, "Guilty of Being White" was originally sung by Minor Threat (I think there are 2 'Threat tunes on that slayer album). The Minor Threat versions are much better, but its tough for a bunch of 30 year old + millionaires to sound like a bunch of pissed off 17 year olds. on to Mr Fama: -> "But I think the Ramones have a lot of >crappy songs, whereas the Misfits have almost 100% awesome songs. The >Misfits a glorified garage band? maybe Glenn agreed with you, and that's >why he claimes to have started Samhain, to be more "professional." But >that doesn't change the fact that the Misfits are better." The Ramones have a few crappy songs (maybe 10?), but that what happens when you are together as a band for over 20 years and release 18 albums, rather than being together for maybe 6 years and releasing 3 albums worth of songs. All of this comes down to personal taste anyway, so this argument is as senseless as any of the "my band is better than your band" arguments we had in 8th grade. For those of you who care, my top 10 are 1. Astrozombies 2. Bullet 3. Skulls 4. Angelfuck 5. Some Kinda Hate 6. Return Of The Fly 7. Attitude 8. Last Caress 9. All Hell Breaks Loose 10. Halloween AZ ------------------------------ From: KWard93399@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:06:12 -0500 Subject: What the hell did I do last night?! Tom said: >If any of you guys have the album Undissputed Attitude, who originally sings >"I Hate You" and "Guilty of Being White". I love those two songs! I don't have the album, but "Guilty of Being White" is that punk band you care so little for, Minor Threat. : ) As far as "I Hate You", who knows? That's too common. Although DOA did a great song with that title on one of their early 7"s. Jumping-Jesus-on-a-pogo-stick, I'm getting tired of Blag Jesus posts! Blag, try reading my posts before mis-quoting them. I DID say that I like Hank. I said Robo told Henry in '87 that he was responsible for the band's decline. I said Greg wrote 100% of the material, so that was impossible. Learn to read, then learn to post something at least entertaining or informative. ------------------------------ From: Angwood@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:51:58 -0500 Subject: IRC Lets get this thing goin! how about a huge discussion at a certain time with bobby and mike and mark. maybe it would be the revival of the IRC. also how about goin into the danzig samhain and undead irc channels. just an idea Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:58:09 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: things marko said: > The current title of the album is Misfits: Volume I or Issue I. hmmm. this doesn't remind me of any other bands... nope. i thought DEAD KINGS RISE was cheesy, but that working title takes the cake. whatever happened to the Newfits TAB someone was gonna send ya? ydennekram also said: > About a year or so ago, we had a subscriber on here named Del James is this the same Del James that co-wrote some GNR tunes on USE YOUR ILLUSION I and II? if it is, interesting... CG spake: > If Earth AD is Glenn's creation Why is it called Earth AD. AD literally > means "Anno Domini" or translated "The year of our Lord" *not* After > Death as most would believe. Glenn wouldn't name an album after a God > he doesn't believe in would he? well we know Glenn can't spell (death...in it's arms, WOLFS BLOOD, the misprint "posession" in the lyrics to "see all you were", Jerry's surname on the first seven-inch). maybe Glenny was just trying to be evil, and was (is?) one of those who thinks AD is "after death". look at Halloween II, and how bad he is at Latin. =) and it's "ano", with a tilde (~) over the n. close enough for me, ya gringo. ;) ryq ------------------------------ From: Angwood@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:04:14 -0500 Subject: LIST here is a cool list of my small collection: MISFITS VIDEOS CREEPY COMPILATION 6/20/96 6/21/96 3/20/83; Channel Club; Boston, MA BRAINEATERS MISFITS AUDIOS SHOCKING RETURN BLOOD PSYCHOMANIA BEWARE AND MORE (BOOTLEG) BOX SET 6/20/96 6/21/96 SAMHAIN AUDIOS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:58:51 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Alan Subject: slanders, postal delays >> Merry Xmas to everyone, especially you Bobby. Does anyone know Daniel L >> King? He is (or was) on this list. If you know him, or know what his >> latest e-mail adress is, please let me know. AND A WARNING TO EVERYONE OUT >> THERE IN MISFITS LAND. DON'T EVER TRADE WITH HIM. HE'LL RIP YOU OFF. I'll throw in my good word with Mark's on this one. I never had any problems swapping with Daniel, and if there's something you haven't gotten yet from him I'd probably attribute it to Ecchs-mas mail influx and just wait a little longer before you say something you might regret. yer Uncle Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:30:49 -0500 (EST) From: ^Jackal^ Subject: Bitch Fits Hey, I saw something kinda of cool this weekend. My band was playing a show in Tennessee on Dec. 28th. The show was called SPAM FEST (I dont know why), but the show was 10 bands and a skateboarding contest. Well about mid-way through the show a band called the Bitch Fits played and they were a misfits cover band. They had Devilocks, spikes, face paint, and everything else. They really kicked ass. I cant remember all the set list, but this songs were in it: Halloween Hollywood Babylon Mommy We are 138 Who killed marilyn Where eagles dare devilock Die die my darling she 20 eyes London Dungeon Bullet and a couple more I cant remember. later ^Jackal^ ps. top 5 songs (no order) 1. Horror Hotel 2. Some Kinda Hate 3. Astro Zombies 4. Devilock 5. Halloween other close ones: die die, haunting, and nike. ------------------------------ Date: 30 DEC 96 14:30:44 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Misfits/Samhain/ Danzig still for sale Still for sale - all on CD Samhain - III November Coming Fire - Plan 9, Mint Misfits - Collection I, Legacy - Plan 9, Mint Misfits - Collection II, Caroline - Mint Danzig - Black Aria CD, Plan 9 - mint Danzig - Dirty Black Summer - CD Single, Def American, Has Dirty Black Summer, Bodies and When Death Had No Name (unreleased track!!!). Excellent shape. best offer on each, email me: Dont forget, all plan 9 is out of print, so these can be had super cheap now. I pay the postage. AZ ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:00:26 -0500 Subject: mr. jim mike inzerillo said: < Subject: Some stuff bout Minor T, Slayer, Earth AD etc Ok... WARPIGZ claims to be a Minor Threat fan and dont know that "guilty of being white" is an old MT classic??!! Phew... The racist/nazi accusations being thrown at Slayer are getting worse here in Sweden. Is it true? Are Slayer a naziband? Does anybody know? Does anybody care? By the way, the guy asking what was so special bout Minor Threat. Hmmm... lets see: They were pioneers of hardcorepunk, did fukking awsome songs (most of them regarded as classics today) and named a certain movement called Straight Edge. Ring a bell? Why does everybody seem to hate Earth AD??? Most of my fave Fitz songs are on that album. It so fukking furious!!! I loose my breath just thinking about it.... oh, PATRICIA: How about an explanation on 138?? Please? Love + Respect XDX --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:59:34 +0000 From: sean barron Subject: green day glo im sure its been discussed already but what would she by green day have sounded like if it was a cover of she by the misfits? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:18:40 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Record show in Baltimore - 1/5 There is a record show just outside Baltimore on Sunday, January 5 at the Holiday Inn - Timonium Plaza (exit 16 off I-83) one mile north of the Baltimore Beltway. I have seen a number of posts on here from people from the Baltimore / DC area so I thought I'd toss this out to any collectors in the area. Oh yeah - its 10-5 and admission is $3.00 =============================================================================== Stephen Gorny :Today's exercise in semantics: Musings on the Department of Psychology : California Civil Rights Initiative. UMBC :Supporters of the bill, who want to see an end to 5401 Wilkens Avenue :the use of racially-based preferences in job Baltimore, MD 21228 :hiring and school admissions, have been labeled :"racists" by their opponents. These same opponents SGORNY1@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU :want to keep race as a criteria in these practices :because they believe in "racial equality". =============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: Initium9@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:17:35 -0500 Subject: Misfits sighting I have a Misfits Sighting I was flipping through the channels and on Too Wong Foo Thanks for everything julie newmar there was some guy with a tie-died black crimson ghost shirt. And Jimmy Hart on WCW has the Crimson Ghost on his leather jacket. ------------------------------ From: bristol@tir.com Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 00:53:42 -0500 Subject: Dr. Acula's Misfits Sight Well, the pictures work in Dr. Acula's Misfits Sight. ------------------------------ From: Whooo0@aol.com Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:21:52 -0500 Subject: whatever How the hell did Rollins ruin Black Flag? And didnt Robo get left behind by Black Flag in UK and didnt help him out but Jerry got Tobo a job at Proedge and let him join the band? You sound like a Bobby Steele fan, if you are then it figures, plus didnt Greg Ginn write most of the Black Flag stuff? It is Greg you should look at then, and as far as the Undertaker, hey Tammy, I believe that is her name, he is the Tor Johnson of our decade, last decade we had George "the animal" Steele, who played Tor in the movie EdWood, so pay some respect to the man from the dark side. The Undead?, I believe I read that someone is gonna redo one of their songs, why? They sucked. Misfits rule now and then!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:44:25 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: dee snider homepage. hail satan, can anyone tell me the address to the dee snider homepage. someone already told me but i lost it. thanks, -steve- ------------------------------ From: WarPigz@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:37:05 -0500 Subject: Yah, Danzig & more again I remember an MTV interview w/ Glenn after some earthquake and it showed his home. He had this stained glass picture of a demon over his door too. Anyways, Crimson Ghost(othello@magicnet.net) said: "Food for thought... If Earth AD is Glenn's creation Why is it called Earth AD. AD literally means "Anno Domini" or translated "The year of our Lord" *not* After Death as most would believe. Glenn wouldn't name an album after a God he doesn't believe in would he?" I don't know if he doesn't believe in God, but after this MTV news interview Kurt Loder explained how when Glenn was asked if he was a satanist, his publisist said that Glenn did not worship the devil, but rather it's more of a fascination with the occult. In other words, the old adage, "look but don't touch." Does it mean he doesn't believe in God. I dunno, but I wanted to share that little fact. Well now I know about that Mars Attacks! fact I'm dissapointed. I checked the music stores every Tuesday when a new shipment of CDs came in for that soundtrack. My top 5 Misfits songs are: 1. Hybrid Moments 2. Hollywood Babalon 3. Comeback 4. London Dungeon 5. Return Of The Fly Oooooops! I'd like to thank Mike Inzerello on correcting me on my little fuck up with my fact of James Hetfield on the first Danzig. He is on Twist of Cain but not Am I Demon. He is on Possession. Well I'm out. Tom AKA: War Pigz "Fuck it all and fucking no regrets" -Metallica "Damage, Inc." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:00:05 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Chutspa, that's what he fucking has... Hello fiends... I know that you guys were waiting for Misfits 101 of Beware, but at this moment a friend is crashed in my room and to close to my records. I would not dare wake this person up, only cause if someone did that to me i would be really pissed. Its an insomnia thing, and something i have dealt with my entire life. So we will be talking collecting techniques today. First though something i need to deal with only cause i'm sick to shit of listing to bullshit issue to issue. Now I seem to be under attack about Misfits 101 from our moron Blag. Maybe you can't see the point in detailing and knowing what Original Misfits 7"s look like, but there are hundreds of other people who are collectores or want to collect but not get screwed. Obviously you are just a poor excuse for a Fiend, actually you are not a fiend at all. Most fiends i know spend there time trying to learn more about, talk about or share with about the Misfits, Samhain and Danzig. Where you just sit and bitch about a Misfits Member that the majority of Bible Members hold in high regards. Which makes me wonder why you are even here? You have never talked about the Misfits once, you share nothing that can be contructive or useful to any fiend here. The few that follow you must be of very poor self-esteem, or just plain ignorant since they follow a person who still has never given a reason for his hate. You have attacked many people since they do not agree with you, and the attacks are poor flames to say the least. As for who you are, i hate to break it to you, but what you claim to be i do not, have never and will never believe in. So you are just waisting your time, and space on the bible as usual. Patricia - So you are stuck with the same sorry ass cable company i have here in Miami. maybe we might loose MTV too. As for the video, that sounds a little on the scary side.;) Misfits 101... I have learned a couple of things in collecting over the years, which seem to work wonders in not paying those stupid prices that some jackass set many years ago. Plus, i can say that even when money was scarce and all other punk and hardcore records dropped in price the Misfits stuff held its ground. To collect Original Misfits records does not mean you have to have tons of money falling out of your pockets. I still have the bills to prove it. In order to collect originals i had to learn about what other records where as valuable and collectable as the Misftis. Doing this gave me an edge, to either buy and sell the other records for money put towards the Misfits records, or use as trade for them. And there are a lot of punk and hardcore valuables. The first 5 - 10 7"s of a well known label called up good money. Touch and Go, Discord, SST, Revelation, Sub Pop(especially the club singles) plus several others. The first Touch and Go 7" Necros Sex Drive can call up as much as a Cough/Cool. and many people would trade Misfits records to get these other rare pieces. The other side of this coin is knowing the other stuff when you trade will prevent the chances of you getting screwed too. Example - my Misfits white vinyl three hits, i paid in cash $30, with three SST lps(the first three out and original) they are valuable to an extent but i paid very little for them($3 each used). The record is usually $175 - 200, Glenn drilled this into my head as he almost fell of the counter top where we sat and discussed what i paid for this record. You all can do this to if you find the right people to deal with. Not everyone knows the value of the Misfits or is waiting to milk you for every cent you got. I spend my money on what i know will be a quick turn around or used to trade with. Also it makes collecting a hellof a lot more interesting then to sit on your ass with a big sign out "Hey i'll pay anything you want, rape me of all my money!" The hunting and dealing is part of the collecting. Where to start you might ask, i started in Maximum Rock and Roll, and Flipside. I traded with half of Europe and America. Plus i turned round and auctioned to the same to get my money for the records i died to have. The first big step is giving up the bootlegs. Your money can be spent a lot wiser. I realized one day that all that money on the boots would add up to an original, what the hell was i doing. So in putting all my effort to collecting the originals i got my first set of 7"s in 3 years. I do admit, i still have more i want for the collection, but i will find it at what i want to pay when its time. Well that is it for now, Beware next issue. Good luck to all of you collecting. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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From: ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:25:41 -0500 From: x Subject: Last Bible CG - your comments about Earth AD are certainly interesting, and may or may not be on the money. All I know is that Glenn wrote the song Earth AD sometime around '81-'82 and that they (The Misfits) had been planning on calling the album EARTH AD as early as April of 1982. On top of that, Glenn didn't have to put the album out at all. He put it out in November of 1983, after he had officially quit the Misfits and begun recording Initium. If he didn't like it, there was nothing requiring him to put it out. I think all of them thought that it was a good idea at the time that it was recorded, but just changed their minds later on. Now as far as Misfits Bible T-shirts go, I'm still trying to get hold of the guy who will be making the shirts to clear some stuff up, and then the shirt image will have to be mailed to him, and then he'll have to make 125 or so shirts.... it will take a while, so don't yell at Dave Naked. mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:20:31 -0500 From: dan sylvester Subject: Re: Guilty Of Being White/Top 20 I think it was Warpigz who asked who originally sang I Hate and Guilty of being white? Guilty of being white was originally done by Minor Threat on thier self title album. I'm too lazy to go downstairs to get the CD to tell you more info on it but it was released in 81 (I'm guessing) Members included Ian Mackaye- vocals (now guitar/vocals for Fugazi) Lyle Pressler- guitar, Brian Baker- bass(after they broke up he joined Dag Nasty and now plays guitar for Bad Religion) and jeff Nelson- drums (he problably played for a hundred other punk bands after like all punk drummers do). Lyle and Brian jammed with Glenn for awhile after Misfits and were about to start a band when Lyle declined.(I think it was susposed to be an early version of Samhain, somebody correct me on this) You can find every song Minor Threat recorded on thier 4 albums on one CD called Complete Disography on Discord. Dann Sylvester ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 11:13:31 -0700 From: horrorkid Subject: NEW FITS PAGE Just wanted to say there is a new MISFITS DANZIG site at http://www.zianet.com/horrorkid/INDEX.HTML FANGS ALOT CREEPS, HK (JERRY ONLY RULES) ------------------------------ From: Blagripper@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:16:53 -0500 Subject: kward93399, evildieff, tes777=choads hey kward93399, robo didnt tell henry in 1987 that henry ruined the band it was black flag 's producer Spot that did, so get it right, and greg ginn wrote most of thier stuff, not all of it, dukowski did as well and rollins wrote a few of the lyrics as well, so i would nt say greg wrote 100% of it all, choad and evildieff, if you cant feel the unchallenged intensity and heart and soul of the misfits live then you really do suck, and tes777(tammy) if you think that i will go away , you are sadly mistaken and if you think that most of the subscribers to the bible like bobby steele, then you are a bigger idiot than i thought you were before, come be my dairy queen baby, choad, lol and i have met every misfit except for joey image and mr jim and franche coma , by the way, i'll tell glenn hi for ya next week ..... :) have a nice day Blag jesus, bow down to me! lol ------------------------------ From: Angwood@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:45:44 -0500 Subject: MARS ATTACKS MY FRIEND WHO TALKS TO JERRY A LOT SAID HE WAS GOIN TO RELEASE MARS ATTACKS WITH HIS OWN MONEY AND WAS GOIN TO LET MIKE OR DOYLE OR CHUD RELEASE THE OTHER NEW SONGS AWHILE BACK. OF COURSE THE WHOLE IDEA WAS SCRAPPED. IS THIS TRUE? SEAN ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:17:49 -0500 Subject: BILE666 Although "Wolfs Blood" and "Demonomania" aren't my favorite Misfits songs, Earth AD does have some great ones on there that are some of my favorites. For instance, "Queen Wasp", "Bloodfeast", and "We Bite" are, to me, great Misfits songs. It's true that the Misfits sacrificed song quality for sheer speed and power when they made the transition from "Walk Among Us" to "Earth AD" but I wouldn't say that that makes it a failure as an album. It was just another form that Glenn pushed the band to. About the album's title, if you look at anything that the Misfits did too seriously, like why Glenn decided to use "A.D." which has religous meaning when he had a penchant for using satanic/unholy imagery, you're not going to end up anything but confused. It's just a name. Adding "A.D." probably just sounded cool at the time. It was probably influenced by some B-movie whose name Glenn liked. If you think there's any kind of deep meaning to any of the songs or anything they did, you're fooling yourself. Anyway, two magazine notes. In the most recent issue of Alternative Press, there's a full page ad for the "Violent World" tribute album. I haven't heard of some of the bands mentioned (like Snapcase, Farside, Tanner, Shades Apart, or Bouncing Souls) but I'm still looking forward to hearing Prong and Deadguy's versions. Also, in the newest issue of RIP, there's a VERY strange item where Bret Michaels of Poison talks about the Misfits. I couldn't believe what I was reading at first because it's pretty bizarre but basically Bret, in a quote from 1990, asks why the Misfits have more musical integrity than Poison. Then, in a current statement, Bret says that the Misfits were more of a t-shirt band than Poison is (or was) simply because people working on Poison videos wore Misftis t-shirts but never had any tapes on hand that he could listen to. Why Bret feels threatened by a group that couldn't be any more different than his own Poison is beyond me completely. He should just OD hair spray and go away so that everyone can forget those godawful bands that my classmates used to listen to when I was in junior high in the mid-80's. Let's just hope there isn't a "big hair band" reunion craze just like there was a punk band one recently ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 17:19:55 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: CG and EAD >From: Crimson Ghost >Subject: Earth After Dinner... >As I said on Monday... The first curious thing is the title itself. Earth >AD, which of course means "Earth in the year of our Lord. okay I am sure he meant AD as in after death! I mean just look at the photos it is an apocolyptic earth! >Here's the crux of the biscuit... Jerry forced the band into the hardcore >arena, *NOT* Glenn. I really believe that Glenn did this album to keep his >dearest friend (Jerry) happy. well not the truth cuz they already had Mommy prior to WAU! which IMO is the thrashiest sounding sound on that album EAD. They seemed to like it enough to put it on that as well. >Here's my proof: Listen to "Initium." Early >Samhain *is* the next logical step musically from 'Walk among us.' >Coincidence? Good point but there is still some heavier stuff, on NOV, although I still see samhain as more of a departure into the metal thing. >I think not. I don't think that it's a far reach to believe >that Glenn did 'AD' to placate Jerry, to use it as an excuse to quit the >band and go out on his own. Glenn is not a musician. he knows that his >greatest asset is his voice. Why would he choose a musical style that >doesn't showcase his voice? I just think Glenn wanted to have 100% control over the misfits and he wasnt getting it, it all goes bacl to my theroy that glenn has a napoleon complex, you know where someone who is reall short has to control everything! But a good point at that,but Glenn wrote all the songs he had control, but he did go to sleep while they were laying down these trax. But if you listen to them practice EAD stuff in the pit rehersal, they play this stuff much like it ended up. Although Mommy and Queen Wasp have versions where they are a little slower. >Case in point: Listen to AD then listen to any live stuff around the same >period of time. The tempo of the songs is forced. The speed is almost >always set by the drummer & bass player. The drummer, Robo, a >known hardcore drumlackacidevil! > 'We Bite' is sort of ironic, isnt it? DONTCHA THINK! well that songs was done even way back as far as 81, so I dont think that was the swam song of the misfits, just read the box set booklet IMO the Ead stuff goes over with the crowd the best it seems they save this stuff and come out for their oncore and just destroy the crowd, evryone goes nuts, but dont get me wrong I like singing the smooth lines of the slower songs to. But this is the grand thing about the misfits that Glenn has carried on to his other projects NO 2 ALBUMS ARE THE SAME! This is the reason he said he wanted to leave am american cuz they wantec to make danzig an AC\DC type of band. I could go on and on and argue and argue but I have just come to understand that you CG were raised by foster parents, and that your real family was killed and slaughtered by a bunch of hardcore knuckle heads who all had on EAD tee shirts and they put that record on while they slaughtered your family. thanx D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:12:47 -0800 (PST) From: Adam P Segal Subject: Kryst Promo Kit for sale For sale, best offer: Kryst the Conqueror promo kit, including sealed CD, sealed Cassette, several stickers and a custom flashlight. All in a custom blister pack. -Adam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 23:06:06 -0600 From: Child of the KoRn Subject: re:misfits bible#227 >im sure its been discussed already but what would she by green day have >sounded like if it was a cover of she by the misfits? i dont even want to think about that, green day is so unpunk it's not even funny. (= my top five 1.Die, Die my Darling 2.Teenagers from Mars 3.All hell breaks loose 4.Hybrid Moments 5.Hollywood Babylon ******************************************************** * Everyone go to my kick your ass homepage! * * http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/1316 * * * ******************************************************** -wes- ------------------------------ Date: 2 JAN 97 08:13:32 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Earth AD CG - I agree with 100% on the Earth AD analysis. It was an uncharateristic "Glenn" album in that everything before OR after never really approached that breakneck speed. Hardcore was very big in 1983 as far as the "punk" arena is concerned, and I'm wondering if Jerry was just trying to hop on that bandwagon. Not only was Last Caress based on 50's rock style chord progessions, so were much of the other classic Misfits tunes AS were other punk bands of the time (i.e. Ramones, Pistols, Clash, Buzzcocks, etc, but you knew that already =) ). Basically, with Earth AD, it comes down to if you like hardcore, you'll like it, if you dont, you'll hate it. It is my LEAST favorite Misfits album, but I cant say I dislike it as I do listen to hardcore (CG, I KNOW YOU HATE THAT STUFF!!). Someone mentioned Slayer --- "The racist/nazi accusations being thrown at >Slayer are getting worse here in >Sweden. Is it true? Are Slayer a naziband? Does anybody know? Does anybody >care? Slayer is not a NAZI/Racist band. I hope when Glenn plays in philly on 1/31/97, he leaves all his harmonizers at home, and just plays his good shit! AZ ------------------------------ Date: 2 JAN 97 09:13:45 EST From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com Subject: Danzig Interview!! I saw the interview too,with him in LA and the earthquake. I dont remember and stained glass windows with demons, but I do remember a big Marvin the Martin in his living room. All Glenn wanted to talk about was fixing the place up and hanging out in his weight room. The house looked like a dump. But Glenn is still kool!!! Anyone from the bible going to see Glenn in Philly on Jan 31th??? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:20:29 -0400 (AST) From: Neil Targett Subject: Re: slanders, postal delays >Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:58:51 -0500 (EST) >From: Teevie Alan >Subject: slanders, postal delays > >>> Merry Xmas to everyone, especially you Bobby. Does anyone know Daniel L >>> King? He is (or was) on this list. If you know him, or know what his >>> latest e-mail adress is, please let me know. AND A WARNING TO >EVERYONE OUT >>> THERE IN MISFITS LAND. DON'T EVER TRADE WITH HIM. HE'LL RIP YOU OFF. > >I'll throw in my good word with Mark's on this one. I never had any >problems swapping with Daniel, and if there's something you haven't >gotten yet from him I'd probably attribute it to Ecchs-mas mail influx >and just wait a little longer before you say something you might regret. > > yer Uncle Teevie >;0) Sorry, but I think this is a little more than "Ecchs-mas mail influx". We set up a trade in early August. That has been more than enough time. A month after he claimed to have sent the tapes out, I e-mailed him to say that I hadn't recieved them. No reply. I continued to write him, but he never ever wrote back. After about two months of this, I wrote him one more time and accused him of ripping me off. This time he wrote back saying that he had sent the tapes out long ago, and they must have gotten lost in the mail. He then said that he would retape them, and resend. This was great, because although I didn't really believe that he had sent the tapes out in the first place, I thought that he would now send them because he realized that I wouldn't give up. Anyway, it's been another two months and no trace of the tapes. Now when I try to e-mail him his adress is not valid. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:00:11 PST Subject: senseless yapping From: misfit6x3@juno.com (Just some Fiend) hey fiends. I haven't posted in in about three weeks or something. I plan to start posting more though. I guess I'll start this post with MY top five... 1)Hatebreeders 2)Death Comes Ripping 3)Comeback 4)Mommy 5)20 i's Its really hard to narrow it down cause I do love everything they ever came out with (not including RATT FINK-it just sucks) Danzig 5 Blackacidevil. What can I say? I like it but it doesnt sound like I thought it would. I'm tired of people saying it sounds like NIN cause I personaly dont think it does. It just sounds like typical industrial. I mean, thats what NIN is but please don't compare. "The New Album". Hmmmm....Volume one. If you ask me it sounds a little too much like Collection one. I'm not too excited about it. IT BETTER BE FUCKIN GOOD!!! I want BOOTLEGS. LOTS OF THEM. i have about everything anyone could ever find on 45's but i want VHS. I have the creepy comp one. Its pretty good. I've had it about 2 years and I'm kinda gettin bored with it. I'm also lookin to buy/trade death Dealer signed by glenn (sound familiar BILE666?) I'm goin to the DANZIG show on january 15. EMAIL ME ATLANTA FIENDS AND WE CAN HOOK UP THERE. I wanna meet somebody on this damn list. I had some more to say....but i forgot. later JuStIn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 00:18:32 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: EAD, DANZIG 5, Ramones > From: Crimson Ghost > Subject: Earth After Dinner... i don't see the title like that. To me, the title describes the hell on earth that exists. (Hence the lyric "on earth as it is in hell") This fits fairly well with the subject-matter of the album (or any Samhain or Danzig album for that matter). Just violence, destruction, and death. (BTW CG, what would ever possess you to think that Glenn would use a title for its literal meaning?) > Here's the crux of the biscuit... Jerry forced the band into the hardcore i just think the album was produced very crappily. It still has a cool feling though, although it's certainly not my favourite. It all depends on you mood. I won't comment on all the musicianship/bassist stuff because i don't know anything about ANY instruments. > I haven't listened to Glenn's new effort but Drod did give me a sample of > it over the phone, he played me the sacrifice remixes, musically I wanted > to vomit, but lyrically Glenn still sounds great. Honestly, all I could all who have not yet heard Danzig 5: ATTENTION: yes it does have an industrial/techno edge, but the Sacrifice remix single is NOT indicative of the sound of the new album. Glenn seems to have given Foetus and Bishara the song and let them do what they wanted to it. unfortunately. > I dunno, i just see EAD as a knockoff for Glenzig. The most annoying of the > Samhain stuff (Kiss of Steel, Human Pony (snicker) Girl) blows 'Wolfsblood' how come no one likes Kiss of Steel? or Wolfs Blood? > From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com > The Ramones have a few crappy songs (maybe 10?), but that what happens > when you are together as a band for over 20 years and release 18 albums, > rather than being together for maybe 6 years and releasing 3 albums worth > of songs. All of this comes down to personal taste anyway, so this > argument is as senseless as any of the "my band is better than your band" > arguments we had in 8th grade. agreed. although you forgot to mention that they played the exact same type of music for that 18 year period, which contributes to why i think they are pathetic. > From: R Hinojos > well we know Glenn can't spell (death...in it's arms, WOLFS BLOOD, the > misprint "posession" in the lyrics to "see all you were", Jerry's surname that "possession" misprint was on a bootleg, not Danzig (the album). but he does have to learn when not to use an apostrophe... > From: Whooo0@aol.com > Greg you should look at then, and as far as the Undertaker, hey Tammy, I > believe that is her name, he is the Tor Johnson of our decade, last decade we > had George "the animal" Steele, who played Tor in the movie EdWood, so pay if he doesn't quit fighting Mankind (formerly Cactus Jack) real soon i'm gonna put them both outta their misery. BTW my cousin met George the Animal at a WWF show last year and he said that he was a complete asshole. But very huge. -B "when you play the game with The Man, only misery can come from that." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:08:04 -0500 (EST) From: asenath Subject: misfits vol I um this is probably one of the stupidest ideas jerry has had in a while. why name a record vol. I or issue I or whatever when the misfits already put out 6 albums. if it is vol. I then why did he go through all the trouble to get to use the misfits name. numbering all your albums is a bit anal retentative, and completly devoid of creativity reminiscent of bands like chicago, led zeppelin and danzig. jerry should at least make an attempt to put a little thought into an title for a record that people have been waiting 13 years to hear. why not call the album ressurection, american psycho, blacklight, dead kings rise, the haunting... fucking anything is better than just a number. fuck if they want to call it a number why not misfits vol. 138?... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : every day is halloween... : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ From: Misfit4798@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:12:04 -0500 Subject: Earth A.D. and Hell On Earth O.K. here's my take on Earth A.D. I have to say I pretty much agree with CG on this one. This is my least favorite misfits album, the only songs I like are "bloodfeast" and "we bite". CG also had a valid point that a singer can not really change the tempo of a song. The singer in my old band tried his hardest to speed up every song, but as CG said only the bassist and the drummer (with some help from the guitarist) can speed up a song. Although I'm not sure if I agree that Jerry is the main reason that the songs were so fast. Here's what I mean, Robo a known hardcore drummer is in the band, Doyle is developing his own style, with Bobby out of the band for about 3 years now, and third and most importantly SPOT, a known hardcore punk producer worked on this album. Who in the words of Henry Rollins "Ruined most of the bands he worked with". If there are any Black Flag fans out there, listen to "Damaged" (produced by spot), and then listen to "Wasted...Again" (a collection of songs from mostly unproduced releases). You tell me if you hear a difference. Now I'm not saying that the band is not responsible for the sound of this album but trust me on this one producers do have an effect on a bands sound. i.e. Metallica/BobRock, Danzig/Rick Rubin, etc.... Plus if memory serves me right, the band was hanging out alot on the west coast with Mad Marc Rude, Black Flag, etc. at this time. Also at this time alot of hardcore stuff was coming out of the west coast. Off of that subject, I got the "Hell on earth" comp. two weeks ago, at a place in Baltimore called "The Sound Garden". To any other Balt./D.C. fiends I think they still have 2 or 3 copies left. In my humble opinion they perverted the Misfits. Now, I've heard alot of bad Misfits cover tunes, hell I've recorded alot of bad ones, but these suck, unless of course you like death metal, and bands that sound illiterate of the english language. One band was actually called "Return of the Misfits" (Ha Ha Ha). There is one band called "Lefthand Solution" and they cover, a very gothic version of "She", and a normal version of "Hybrid Moments". But what makes this band so good is the female, yes female singer who does a terrefic job on these two songs (No, I do not feel the Misfits should get a female singer, Michale is great). The comp. ends with an orchestral version of "Halloween" that is cool as hell. To anyone going to the Record show on 1-5-97 in Timonium, I'll be there most likely wearing a Misfits t-shirt and a leather jacket, don't be afraid to approach and talk to me, I'm always eager to swap stories with fiends. Top 5 in no order: Astro-zombies, Some Kinda Hate, Bullet, Haunting, and Horror Hotel. I also have to mention "March of the Mega-Mites", I guess it's pretty pointless to start a Top 5 "Kryst the Conqueror" list. -Later Drew ------------------------------ Subject: My own (boring, probably incorrect) take on Earth AD From: dave naked Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 16:07:17 EST Hey: About EARTH AD: Mind you, in laymens terms, AD is "After Death" (and BC is Before Christ). Glenn wasnt the smartest guy at the time (trade school??), Im sure he had no idea of the actual meaning of AD. Your right about Jerry taking the band in the HC direction. Glenn said in various interviews that he wished the EAD songs were a bit slower. If you slow down any EAD song (and record it in a _real_ studio, with actual musicians) it would sound like SAMHIAN (on "Initium"), for that matter imagine "Archangel" at EAD breakneak speed. The case also may be that Glenn wanted to sound a bit more like BLACK FLAG. When he saw how damn awful it came out (his own opinion, of course) he realized he had taked the band to far. It had to end. As far as Jerry saying THE NEWFITS project is the best thing hes ever worked on is quite a damn joke. Looking foward to "Volume I or Issue I" (*cough* danzig *cough*). Wow, Drod, if i havent said it before, Im saying it now....you listen to crap. ANDYKRYST: Where ever you are YOU OWE ME TAPES. thats about it dave "my body SXE my temple" ------------------------------ Date: 2 JAN 97 17:29:03 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Jerry/Lemmy CG said -> "Jerry seems to think that the faster you play something the >better *he* sounds. He's got to be the only bass player I know that plays >out of a stack of 12's. What's up with that? He thinks he's Lemmy from Motorhead, who also I believe plays out of 4x12 bass cabs (Marshall I believe, head and cabs). All he needs is his mic real high up, and he;s there, almost .... AZ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 21:16:19 -0500 From: Chris Ferrell Subject: Just some shit... I believe there is already a Danzig channel on the IRC. It's on DALnet, and it's called... #Danzig (big surprise, huh?). Anyway, I'm usualy there and also on #WhereEaglesDare (A new room on IRC DALnet - Currently looking for channel ops ~Email me!). Try to get mIRC 4.7 if you don't have a chat program. "the Toothless Roosterman is on the Run!" WarPigz --> I also noticed in that Mtv interview that Danzig has the two stained glass windows that are pictured on the inside of the How the Gods Kill insert. In fact, He was complaining about how one of them fell down during the quake (I would too.). Anyway... Since everyone is doing a top-ten or top-five I thought I'd post mine too... (In no particular order) 1. LastCaress 2. Angelfuck 3. Astro Zombies 4. Halloween 5. American Nightmare 6. Braineaters 7. Where Eagles Dare 8. Attitude 9. Some Kinda Hate 10. Teenagers From Mars/Children in heat (I consider them one song, so sue me) Just wondering, (I think this is to Bobby, but I can't remember for sure...) Did you ever get to meat, er - I mean meet Santa Claus? If so, I'd like an eyeball. Was he easy to chop up? CG - I gotta agree with you on the Glenn being a vocalist. He's got a set of lungs on him, tht's for sure. Blag Jesus. I don't know what to say to you. You're arrogant, boorish, and full of spite and rancor. That's why I like your posts... But enough is enough already! If you want to flame fellow fans, do it in their private emails please! I joined this thinking it was a forum for talking about the 'fits, not hacking into other people here. And finally, the Dee Snyder site is at http://www.dsnyder.cumsucker/Dee.eatsbabyanalrot/analrot.html See ya in the IRC (real time chat is better than email) -Chris "Heart full of napalm" F. (LastCaress on IRC) rancor@sunline.net And if you gaze for long into an Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you. -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzshe "Beyond Good and Evil" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:31:13 -0500 (EST) From: Brad Subject: This and that New album seems cool,except for the title. Sounds alot like somebody else Don't wanna mention any DANZIG uh I mean names.Juerk's art is awsome! That Ed Repka art has no place in the Misfits,to glammy.The cover should be black with the Juerk's 3-D ish skull on it (no hood) with white letters. That other Slayer tune "I hate you" was oringinally(I think) done by Iggy Pop's band Stooges?.I believe I read that somewhere. Perhaps on the American page.Also Slayer change the lyrics cause they couldn't understand them or somthin. CG your take on Earth AD pretty cool.You brought up some good points. Interesting stuff, makes alot of sense. My top five live,only seen 'em once,but got bootlegs. 1:Staic Age 2:T.V. Causilty 3:The Hunger(this rules!!) 4:Black Light 5:Last Caress(cause Michale's voice after the pause!Wow!) //Brad// ----------------------------------------------------------- "A cliche is a cliche.But an ass whippin is an ass whippin!" ---Stone-Cold--------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 19:39:46 -0800 From: mike inzerillo Subject: Captian Harlock Shirts Are Back I found an art store that sells paint. I got two bottles of white textile paint FINALLY! So I'm back in business. Let me know what size you want and after I make it, I will ask you to send the check for 14 dollars. For more information please check my web page. http://www.ecis.com/~mikei ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: Guero666 Subject: Ramones/Misfits AZowdny said: The Ramones have a few crappy songs (maybe 10?), but that what happens when you are together as a band for over 20 years and release 18 albums, rather than being together for maybe 6 years and releasing 3 albums worth of songs. All of this comes down to personal taste anyway, so this argument is as senseless as any of the "my band is better than your band" arguments we had in 8th grade. I would have told you that the Ramones are like Spinal Tap for regrouping and releasing more albums and dragging their useless old bones across the world for another tour of the same old shit - but hey would that be the Misfits too??? Oh no! my favourite band is like the Ramones. ------------------------------ From: ADAMEMO@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:28:41 -0500 Subject: stuff for sale if anyone ordered stuff from ADAM KRINEY and is wondering where the hell it is, email this address to clear up any problems, ADAMEMO@AOL.COM ADAM ------------------------------ From: "scooter" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #227 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:26:11 -0000 chutspah?--------"nazi demons, nazi youth-wolverines in dark black suits--shove 'em in an oven and they start to cook-blame it on those nazi youth"-----who said that? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:31:33 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Its all in the front cover... Hello to all the fiends... First before we get into Misfits 101 and Beware, i have some stuff to talk about. CG posted some powerful stuff last bible which after reading it made a hell of a lot of sense. Mores so then i ever thought about Earth AD. I sat and looked over the Earth AD's i have in my collection, two of which have been signed by Glenn Jerry and Doyle at this point. Looking at the design on the sleeve i realized that it shows what CG is talking about, Jerry finally having control of the Misfits. The main creature is standing over a second which is being pushed down and looks in shock. the Crimson Ghost inside its body of the one being a secondary figure. I also noticed where each member signed his name. Glenn signes one no where near any of the creatures and then the second near the creature under the main centered creature. Jerry signs right smack over the chest of the main creature both times, his Y in his name is slashed through the face of the other under the main one. Doyle goes for the creature on the left with his fist in the air. I think that the design is a depiction of Jerry rising above Glenn and taking control of the Misfits. It makes sense that the crimson ghost is with in what might be Glenn, and the shocked look on his face. Pretty sad if you think about it. As for the music on Earth AD, i do like one or two songs from it but i have to say that Legacy and WAU are far superior. The best Earth AD has going for it is Mark Rudes art and the wild color vinyls that came out of it. Plus you have to figure on the fact that none of the songs from this lp ever came to 7" format. Here we go, Whooo - i am not saying anything bad about the Undertaker. What i was saying was since i got caught up in that debate with Justin and asked about the Undertaker to someone i know works for the WWF, i ended up get a very Undertaker birthday.(only i can turn 29 and get a life size stand up of the Undertaker). I still am worried about what this guy is (the Undertaker) personally sending me for my birthday. Also i have seen George "the animal" Steele wrestle live here in Miami at least 3 - 4 times. Oh by the way Jake the Snake Roberts one of Glenn's faves(at least he sported that t-shirt back in 1990 for quite a while)is back in the WWF. I got to hear about the wonderful road trip with this guy, some people are to nice. i don't care if this guy is big or not, but a 3-4 hour trip with no radio, i'd go out of my mind. plus a snake in the back seat to boot. Misfits 101 - Beware Well as you all know there are several bootlegs of Beware. Some are so obvious its not even funny. a 7" with green vinyl, a 12" with color vinyl, the best was one that was sold to me and all i could do was laugh. The sleeve was a high gloss, with no spine for the sleeve. The original is a flat black front cover with the photo of the Misfits and the first time i ever saw Joey look alive. BEWARE is in the top left corner with what looks like an inch before you get to the edge of the left of the sleeve. It looks like black pastels or crayons over white ripped paper. THE MISFITS logo (the original) is in the right upper corner in white. The back of the sleeve has the face of a CG facing forward with the hood incircling the face. this takes up from top left to bottom left side and is more than half the sleeve is covered with it. in the very bottom left is type in black which says: Released thru; Armageddon Records; c/o 23 The Willows; Chesham Bois; Bucks; PLAN9(white in the usual black box); Distributed by Spartan Records; London Road Wembley Middlesex 9AH 7HQ. THE MISFITS logo is in the starts in the center top more of it falls into the right hand side. 1 1/2 to 2" down from the top right has the band listing, white type black box, glenn danzig; jerry only; bobby steele; joey image. the next box(black with white type) is: SIDE 1; WE ARE 138; BULLET; HOLLYWOOD BABYLON; ATTITUDE. The third box SIDE 2; HORROR BUSINESS; TEENAGERS FROM MARS; LAST CARESS. under that we switch to black type that is directly on the sleeve no box, Drums on side on:MR.JIM; about 2 -3 spaces then, All songs written by GLENN DANZIG'78&'79C(in circle) + P; FRONT COVER PHOTO: GLENN BROWN; The Misfits Fiend Club; 145 W. 27th st. 2E; N.Y.,N.Y. 10001 USA. In line with Drums type down to the space between front cover and the Misfits fiend stuff is the Cherry Red logo with the woman in the middle. this is set with about 1/2" from the right side of the sleeve and the bottom of the sleeve. In line with the address for the fiend club is: MARKETED BY CHERRY RED; two spaces to the right and a little lower is PLP9. There is some black that starts at the top of the sleeve (back side) but is turns to gradient, which if you look close its dots. you see a lot of them on the face of the CG. Also there is a spine to the sleeve, its is solid white not writing. Side 1- vinyl -label is black, top white THE MISFITS logo, left white type: side one; WE ARE 138; BULLET; HOLLYWOOD BABYLON; ATTITUDE. Right - white type: side two; HORROR BUSINESS; TEENAGERS FROM MARS; LAST CARESS. bottom - white type - p in circle 1979; PLAN9( black type in white box); PLP9. Etched in the vinyl end grooves is - left - MAX, bottom - ARMAGEDDON. TOP - PLP-009-A2, 2 1/2" away is: LYN7721-2T. Side 2 - The label is white with the same gradient as the back cover, also has the same CG. left side has the word Side; 2 set in black type, right has PLP9; p in the circle 1979; Glenn Danzig. starting at eye level of the CG(Left side) and going on a curve to the chin is ALL RIGHTS OF THE MANUFACTURER AND OF THE OWNER OF THE RECORDED WORK RESERVED. right side starting at the chin and working up to the eye on a curve is: UNAUTHORISED PUBLIC PERFORMANCE BROADCASTING AND COPYING OF THIS RECORD PROHIBITED. the etching are the same as side one, except PLP - 009 - B and LYN7722 - 1T. Price - i got mine in an auction for $40. though i got one for $80 originally but the condition was very poor. I used that as part of a trade to get my multi color Earth AD. They range in price from $150( some record store was selling one a couple years back) - 300. i was even offered to trade mine for a Cough/Cool. best bet is if the price is high try to bargan, or do a half cash half trade. if you can get a hold of some rare punk or core for cheap its great for knocking down the prices on the Misfits stuff. best example: i traded the first Beware as i mentioned, i gave that and a Die Kreuzen's Cows and Beer 7". which cost a whole $10. so in trade, i paid $90 for the Multi color Earth AD. the price the store had on it was $250. big difference! Well Monday is it for Misfits 101 detailing, we talk LP's color on sleeves and color on the vinyl. Everyone have a great weekend and see ya's Monday. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Samhain buttons AZ-Slayer + worst Misfits tunes bootleg videos enough with the sightings!!! Roadtrip live Samhain and more! I think we have a repeat on our hands... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 18:26:36 -0500 From: PRH First D-Rod let us know....in his opinion.... >From: Daniel Rodrigues >Subject: CG and EAD >>Here's my proof: Listen to "Initium." Early >>Samhain *is* the next logical step musically from 'Walk among us.' >>Coincidence? >Good point but there is still some heavier stuff, on NOV, although I still >see samhain as more of a departure into the metal thing. HUH???!!!? Anyone ELSE here think that Samhain is a METAL band? Gahd. Theyre way too minimalist...making them --dare I say it--a PUNK kinda band? If you described Danzig even as a metal band I wouldnt necessarily disagree but Samhain? and then, speculated D-Rod: > I just think Glenn wanted to have 100% control over the misfits and he >wasnt getting it, it all goes bacl to my theroy that glenn has a napoleon >complex, you know where someone who is reall short has to control >everything! I'd really like everyone to know: I never took a yardstick too him or anything but I just dont think of Glenn as all that short. 5'5" maybe,at the shortest, thats hardly a midget. Compared to Jerry who is a big tall fella, and next to the very tall Eerie, he prolly looks incredibly small, but he's not much shorter than Bobby who is a respectable height. So Napoleon complex, hmmm, perhaps just very insecure in general and a control freak, but I know tall people who act that way too. > IMO the Ead stuff goes over with the crowd the best it seems they save >this stuff and come out for their oncore and just destroy the crowd, >evryone goes nuts, Okay, just like they did for Anthrax and Cannibal Corpse. And all the thrash bands. They're reacting to noise, not a SONG. ********************* NEXT!!! >From: Brett Fama >Subject: EAD, DANZIG 5, Ramones Brett let us know how much he hates the Ramones. >agreed. although you forgot to mention that they played the exact same >type of music for that 18 year period, which contributes to why i think >they are pathetic. I know this isnt the Ramones list but I'd like to add that that type of music is the very type they pioneered for groups like the Misfits. Which makes them GODS. and so, I remain etc, etc, etc, love and etc, patricia ragan denmaw ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 12:27:10 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last time >dave naked > >About EARTH AD: Mind you, in laymens terms, AD is "After Death" (and BC >is Before Christ). Stupid laymen maybe... This is ridiculous. The Christian religion (and I hold no stock in this.) but the religion is built on the fact that Christ is ALIVE. not dead. If AD refers to "after death" what happened to those 33 or so years he was alive? BC=Before Christ, AD=Anno Domini, meaning "The year of our Lord." According to the Christian faith, Christ was only dead for 2 days. The whole religion is built on the fact that he was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. Hence the year of our lord, He is not dead, he lives among us... *cough*bullshit*cough. >From: x > >On top of that, Glenn didn't have to put the album out at all. He put it >out in November of 1983, after he had officially quit the Misfits and >begun recording Initium. If he didn't like it, there was nothing >requiring him to put it out. Now who's being naive? Glenn had the most important reason of all to release that album: Money! >From: Adam P Segal > >For sale, best offer: Kryst the Conqueror promo kit, including sealed CD, >sealed Cassette, several stickers and a custom flashlight. All in a >custom blister pack. Ok I'll throw my hat in on this one... 50 fucking cents. And that's only cause I need new batteries for my VCR remote. I believe that flashlight is stocked with panasonic AAA's? Child of the KoRn >>im sure its been discussed already but what would she by green day >>have sounded like if it was a cover of she by the misfits? Uh, really good? > i dont even want to think about that, green day is so unpunk it's >not even funny. (= I know that Markomisfit would prefer we not discuss this here, but why exactly is it that Green Day is unpunk but the friggin Vandals are? could it be the fact that Green Day is commercially successful that they're suddenly ostracized by the Punkroc *cough, oxymoron coming up!* Intelligentsia? Perhaps someone could explain to us why Green Day is NOT punk. I've heard it described that punk is doing whatever the fuck you want to without regard for what people think of your actions (personally I think this is bullshit, but...) Consider that fact that Greenday might have set out to actually make a living with music that pisses off most older members of the typical ozzie & harriet 'nuclear family'. I would say that they beat the system doing what they like. Face it before they got popular there was no major punk act that was making any serious money. Now you have quite a few. even the pistols & the Misfits, all cashing in on a revival that Greenday started. Get off of it. For that matter Jerry would sell out everyone of you fuckers to make some serious change, in a way he already has. ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ Joe Pecse *is* Glenn Danzig: " Lemme ax you sometin, Who'd I do this for you mudda fucker, me or youse...Wit just *one* touch of my burnin hand you mudda fucker" That's one angry little man from NJ to another The Crimson Ghost - othello@iag.net, othello@magicnet.net -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:50:54 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: 5 Brett Fama said: > that "possession" misprint was on a bootleg, not Danzig (the album). > but he does have to learn when not to use an apostrophe... "posession" is in the lyric book for 5BLACKACIDEVIL. whose fault was that? the printer, the company, or Glenn not spellchecking his own release? ah EARTH AD... great album. who cares if it's not like BEWARE or WAU? it's great hardcore; something to rage to. ryq AD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 12:00:17 -0700 From: horrorkid Subject: EARTH A.D. Just wanted to gilve my take on the EARTH AD thing. Someone mentioned that the production was crappy ,well if I am not mistaken the whole thing was pretty much taped live,with the drummer in the middle of the room and jerry and doyles amps facing him on either side.I also heard that glenn slept thru most of the recording session.Now dont get me wrong I am not talking shit EAD is one of my favorite fits albums.I fucking love wolfsblood/hellhound/queenwasp and all the rest. .And as for the singer of a band setting the tempo that is bullshit,I have sang and played guitar in shitloads of bands and when you play live either the drummer or the bass player (or both depending on song) set the tempo. I dont know how many times i have fuckin screamed at a drummer to slow down during a gig (or speed up it works both ways) gotta go I got a thing ..Oh yea, I belive the song EARTH A.D. was based on a great old movie called the HILLS HAVE EYES. Definetly worth renting and checking out!! HORRORKID http://www.zianet.com/horrorkid/INDEX.HTML -- ------------------------------ From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com Date: Fri, 3 Jan 97 13:53:43 EST Subject: GTABS Anyone? Anyone have any GTABS for any Misfits songs? Or know where I can get 'em? Are there any on Mark's web site? ------------------------------ Date: 3 JAN 97 14:15:50 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Earth AD Here is more of my take on the EAD debate stirred by the almighty CG ... I believe the turn of the Misfits to hardcore was because hardcore was king in '82-83. Most of your melodic punk stuff was gone, and bands like DKs, Exploited, GBH, Minor Threat, Black Flag and the Circle Jerks were the kings of the punk heap. I'm not saying they were selling out, but bands dont work in a vacuum, and even though Glenn says he "wrote every lyric and every note" of all the songs, other band members can have an influence on the finished product. Jerry and Doyle and even Glenn were probably listening to alot of these bands, playing shows with them, and inevitably the sound will change to what the scene was. Robo played in Black Flag, he may have played the songs in faster tempo and the guys said "hey, this kicks ass", as disposable as drummers seem, they definitly make their mark on a band, Chuck Biscuits is a perfect example... You can see the same with alot of other bands, like Metallica getting slow and soft for the grunge kids or even the Ramones (whom it seems most of you here despise ...) who put out Animal Boy, Too Tough To Die and Halfway to Sanity with some real hardcore tunes on them back in the mid 80s. I find it hard to believe that Jerry thinks this Misfits album is going to be better than anything they ever did. He is probably mistaking a big recording budget with great songwriting and an unbelievable voice. I'm not saying this to knock Michale, who I think has an excellent voice, but the Misfits were Glenns voice and Glenns writing. We've had some previews of what the Newfits will sound like, hard and fast like EAD, and the songwriting hasnt really been that great. I think the Haunting an excellent tune, but some of the others just dont have it, like Walk Among Us (the song) or Blacklight. There arent any hooks in these songs, nothing to grab you like the great old ones. The style of "Skulls", "Last Caress", "She" or "Angelfuck" are classics of punk songwriting, simple, effective, with great singalong choruses, etc. I'll wait and hear the new album before I pass final judgement, but I dont put hopes up too high on this one... .... and leave the Ramones alone, if it werent for them, you'd all be listening to the Eagles talking about how "Don Henley was the heart of that band, and it was a battle between him and Joe Walsh for control of the group and that Desperado is really about the devil..... " AZ ------------------------------ From: XShaneX Subject: Who else.... Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:45:17 -0000 When Glenn comes to philly, who is he going to be touring with, is the Lords Of Acid rumor still true? Oh yeah, I expect every single little trendy NIN fans to be there..Joy.....,.Nothing like a pit full of idiots... "Crushed in the pit, nailed to the stage, I only suck the souls who are underage." Gwar ------------------------------ From: Blagripper@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:05:34 -0500 Subject: flames yeah well i guess i will chill out on the flaming of other fiends, but tammy you still suck and so does bobby, so anyways, i will admit earth ad isnt as cool as the other misfits albums, but it still kicks ass, and wolfsblood is a great song, i guess those of you that dont like it are pussies, the ramones rule as well, and ECW and WCW kick the WWF's ass, at least jimmy hart wears the crimson ghost on his jacket sometimes, and jerry can name the new album anything he wants to because he rules, and all of those complaining about the new misfits album are gonna be the frist ones to buy it as well, and how the hell can anyone like the new danzig lp, unless you are a girl, lol ....:) have a nice day---Blag ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:50:59 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Glenn vs. Rick Rubin Everyone seems to be taking for granted Glenn's claim that he left American because "Rick Rubin wanted Danzig to sound like AC/DC". To me, this doesn't make much sense. I mean, I'll be the first to point out that Rick Rubin has a tendency to "milk" a band too much -- if he hears what he thinks is a good quality in a band's sound on their first album, he'll squeeze every last ounce of that for the next album (and to me, the band ends up sounding kind of cheesy and over-marketed). He doesn't seem to be for much real change. But one could argue that he's only being market-saavy with his artists. Look how long it took before MTV started showing a video for "Mother"... when that audience goes out and buys "Blackacidevil" they're going to hear a COMPLETELY different sound, and the label is back to square one as far as marketing the band. But this issue aside, the AC/DC argument doesn't fly with me for one simple reason: it's hard for me to see Rick Rubin as being that musically closed-minded, unless the forthcoming (Rick Rubin-produced) Nine Inch Nails album is going to sound like AC/DC. Anyone else think Rubin was trying to TELL Glenn something when he said to stay the fuck away from doing bad NIN pastiche? NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:59:52 -0800 From: Justin Deming Subject: A Note on Remixes Someone mentioned the Sac. remixes were not reflective of the songs on the album, and, "unfortunatly," Danzig handed the song to someone else to remix. THAT'S HOW REMIXES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE!!! Sometimes someone will remix their own song (the guy from KMFDM will never again remix his own work), but the norm for remixes are for them to be done by someone else. Trent Reznor did the "Gristle Mix" of SoD by Megadeth. The Dust brothers do a lot of remix work. So, there's my two cents. A note (not a take) on this Earth A.D. debate: THIS IS GREAT!!! THIS IS (finally) AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE MB SHOULD BE!!! We're not flaming each other over nazism and who likes whom! This is great, great, great! Mark, it's finally working! Yea team! Okay, I'm done now. - Justin -- Dork: The Home Page DDDDDD OOOO RRRRRRR KK KK DD DD OO OO RR RR KK KK DD DD OO OO RR RR KK KK DD DD OO OO RRRRRR KKKK DD DD OO OO RR RR KK KKK DDDDDD OOOO RR RR KK KK http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/ -- The Internet Pro Wrestling Association IIIIIIII PPPPPPP WWW WW WWW AA II PP PP WW WWWW WW AAAA II PP PP WW WW WW WW AA AA II PPPPPP WWW WWW WWW WWW AAAAAAAA II PP WW WW WW WW AA AA IIIIIIII PP WWW WWW AA AA http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/ipwa/ -- ...and don't forget my clients, for all of your questions about your future! Areturus - St. Rose http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/areturus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 21:36:52 -0500 From: american nightmare Subject: misfits:volume one Calling the new album misfits: volume one is too similar to danzig's numerical titles. They already have a singer who sounds like danzig and are playing all the songs he wrote. just an observation ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:42:32 -0500 (EST) From: posmo Subject: Misfits kick ALL ass! This is the first time that i have wrote on the bible, And I really wanna know what 138 means! If anyone can help, mail me! 1.she 2.bullet 3.hybrid moments 4.skulls 5.horror bussiness Thanks again posmo ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:41:43 -0500 Subject: fa la la blag bent over and spewed: <<, if you cant feel the unchallenged intensity and heart and soul of the misfits live < Subject: AD, Glenny Insofar as "Anno Domini" goes, I've only ever heard Glenn proclaim he does believe in God when asked in interviews. Not quite sure how he would justify the "God don't like it" attitude, but the man seems to be anything but an atheist. Maybe a deist at best. Fred Teevie >;0> ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:10:53 -0500 Subject: A few quick things Fiends, First off, don't you think everyone is reading just a bit too deep into this AD thing? Seriously. What do you expect Glenn to be going by the Jewish or pagan calenders? Second, Slayer---seeing as Tom Araya is latino, I think calling them Nazis is inaccurate. This Nazi crap may be started because they have an Iron Cross on the new album. When in fact, the Iron Cross is not necessarily a Nazi thing, because it was started decades before Hitler was even born during the Franco-Prussian War. I believe it was called the Knights Cross, but that may have been something slightly different. Of course when it has a swastika in the middle, that's Nazi. When it has a W in the middle that stands for Wilhem who was king at the time. For collector types....it is very important that you realize that you will NOT get anywhere in your collecting if you simply post "if you have stuff, e-mail me" or whatever. You have to hunt people down, keep your eyes open, go to record shows. There is a collector's page on the WWW page, and I'm sure many of these people can give you info on where they found stuff. Chris ------------------------------ Date: 03 Jan 97 19:25:59 EST From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Dwarves Rule! BIBLE POST Hello bible members. I have put together 210 pages of photocopies of Misfits flyers, interviews, ads, posters, show listings, discographies, reviews, and much more. I am now starting to do some similar "Photocopy Packets" for the Dwarves. If anyone can send me good quality photocopies of Dwarves interviews/ads/reviews/photos/whatever, I will send you back in return 20 times that amount of Misfits stuff. Please help. I am also will to buy (for any reasonable and some unreasonable prices) any magazines with interviews or other such stuff (Dwarves or Dwarves related). I also have tons of original Misfits flyers/interviews/stickers and other stuff to trade. Please help. Paul Holstein 6759 Transparent Drive Clarkston, MI 48346 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 18:17:31 -0800 From: Deftone Subject: I hate you Alright, somebody wanted to know who wrote 'I hate you' on Slayer's new album... I think Jeff Hanneman wrote it. That and Ddamn were the 2 original punk songs other than the last song on the album. I think they do punk pretty well, but it just isn't beleiveable. I mean these guys are about 40 years old and are millionaires. And they used to wear spiked CHAPS goddammit... oh well, who am I to say who's punk or not. WHEN THE HELL ARE THE MISFITS OR DANZIG OR UNDEAD OR TIMES SQUARE OR ANY COOL BANDS EVER GONNA COME TO VANCOUVER? (although I did just see Tool - the best show ever). What is up with John Christ now? Has he put out a solo album yet?? What about Eerie?? top 5 misfits songs in particular order 1 Spook City USA 2 Horror Hotel 3 Night of the living dead 4 Return of the Fly 5 Wolf's Blood So far so good it's understood he'll never amount to anything. ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:58:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #278 Hi fiends, How come everyone always talks shit about Earth A.D.? Its a great fuckin' record. I Love wolfsblood. Its violent and evil. I like the rest of the record too. I think if it wasn't for that record, much of the thrash metal of the mid 80's would have never been released.( which doesn't really mean much). Earth AD rules. devils are born in angels arms. Tom Undermine GogmaGod Records Rd 1 box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, NY 12592 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:12:58 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: more EAD, "Sacrifice"/"Closer", etc > From: x > it out. I think all of them thought that it was a good idea at the > time that it was recorded, but just changed their minds later on. yeah...also, it seems only one person (Bile666) remembered to mention that the title came froma B-movie. (Invasion Earth 2150 AD) As for them changing their minds, if you look at just about any Danzig i/v, the author will say to Glenn, "This new Danzig album is different than your last one" and Glenn will then proceed to agree and point out the things he didn't like on the previous one. In the current Metal Edge, he basically says that he always likes his current album best because that's what his tastes are today, whereas by the time he puts out a new album in 2 years, his tastes will be slightly different, and hence Danzig 6 will be, too. This is probably the case with EAD, so it's not too surprising that they don't like it much after 13 or so years. (although I like it) > From: misfit6x3@juno.com. (Just Some Fiend) > Danzig 5 Blackacidevil. What can I say? I like it but it doesnt sound > like I thought it would. I'm tired of people saying it sounds like NIN actually, back when I first heard 5, I was one of the people who said that "Sacrifice" sounded almost exactly like NIN's "Closer", but last week I heard "Closer" for the first time since I've had 5, and I have to take it back. The synthesizer part is similar, but otherwise it isn't all that much the same (although I think there is a distinct influence). I guess I just remembered "Closer" differently. > From: asenath > Subject: misfits vol I > um this is probably one of the stupidest ideas jerry has had in a while. I don't think "Issue One" is too bad of a title. It makes it sound like a comic book. I like comic books...anyway, I prefer it to "Dead Kings Rise" > From: dave naked > About EARTH AD: Mind you, in laymens terms, AD is "After Death" (and BC > is Before Christ). Glenn wasnt the smartest guy at the time (trade > school??), Im sure he had no idea of the actual meaning of AD. Your I disagree. The true meaning of "AD" is *fairly* common knowledge, not some big intellectual secret. Also, Initium proves that Glenn was already into reading books, and "Halloween II" proves that he had at least some familiarity with Latin. As for the grammatical incorrectness of the song, when I was in high school I showed the lyrics to one of my teachers who knew Latin and Greek, and she translated it and said that it was not coherent sentences, but rather, a bunch of words strung together as a chant....which makes sense. (okay, so Glenn can't speak proper Latin...would you go out and learn an ancient language just to write a 2-minute song, or would you just fake your way through it?) > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) > looked over the Earth AD's i have in my collection, two of which have been > signed by Glenn Jerry and Doyle at this point. Looking at the design on > the sleeve i realized that it shows what CG is talking about, Jerry finally uhhh... No offence Tammy, but I think your analysis shows the dangers of taking Art History courses too seriously. Also, do you really think there was that much thought on Jerry's and Glenn's parts as to where they would sign the record? -Hit Man ------------------------------ From: x Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #278 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:33:11 -0500 (EST) > From: Angwood@aol.com > Subject: MARS ATTACKS > > MY FRIEND WHO TALKS TO JERRY A LOT SAID HE WAS GOIN TO RELEASE MARS ATTACKS > WITH HIS OWN MONEY AND WAS GOIN TO LET MIKE OR DOYLE OR CHUD RELEASE THE > OTHER NEW SONGS AWHILE BACK. OF COURSE THE WHOLE IDEA WAS SCRAPPED. IS THIS > TRUE? This is true. Jerry told me this during the summer when the band had plans for various 7" singles. I believe I even posted it in the bible. > From: Bile666@aol.com > Subject: BILE666 > > Although "Wolfs Blood" and "Demonomania" aren't my favorite Misfits songs, > Earth AD does have some great ones on there that are some of my favorites. I love EARTH A.D. - it's one big 20 minute song with lots of different parts. "Queen Wasp" is my favorite live Misfits song, although the slower rehearsal version from The Pit (September of '81) is even better, simply because you can really hear the Wasp guitar. Queen Wasp Go mark ---------------------------- From: Jeff Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 Subject: selling my Misfits stuff After much deliberation, i have decided to sell most/all of my albums (i need the cash)! I really hope that you or somebody you know may be interested in a few of these beautiful pieces up for sale. i don't have a very regular email address, so any correspondence will have to take place over the phone. You can call me collect or call me then i call you right back. my name is Jeff (817)381-5430. Here are some of the records I have (these are all originals): Night of the Living Dead Walk Among Us (1st and 2nd pressing, 1st pressing is promo copy w/press kit) Bullet- autographed by Jerry Only, gatefold, lyric sheet Legacy of Brutality- one red vinly, one white vinyl Earth A.D.- gold vinyl Die Die My Darling- white vinyl Wolf's Blood- the german version of Earth AD Evilive- green vinyl evilive- german version with different cover. there may be more that i can't recall (i'm not writing this at home) and i also have numerous bootlegs and lots of collectables from other bands (Undead, Minor Threat, etc.) remember if you or anyone else is interested call (don't email) jeff (817)381-5430. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 23:15:37 -0600 From: "Barry E. Beitz" Subject: Madrezid Video Fanzine, Volume 2 Madrezid Video Fanzine, Volume 2 I want a copy, can someone hook me up? (cheap?) Thanx, Jon ------------------------------ Subject: Bootleg warning/Vids/45 From: jason d heveran Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 06:07:15 EST Bible Peoples, I was in a local record store the other day and I came across a new live bootleg CD, it had a whole bunch of pictures including a few of Graves, so I thought it was new, the sweetheart behind the counter let me give it a listen b4 purchase, I said to my friend," that is definatly Glenn" and he agreed, as did the women behind the counter then I took a look at the dates, the first one was recorded I think 82 but check this shit out, it said the second batch was recorded in 93.....WHAT??????? Well obviously this is false so check the dates of any new live shit, the "93" show was not new however but infact w/Glenn, I would not recommend this anyway, it is almost as bad as PSYCOMANIA. I am looking 4 a couple of things maybe someone can help me: Videos-------- The show where Michale gets arrested The show when Doyle knocks that kid(Toranto i think) The Action Park show Cassetes------- Rehearsel at the pit And one last (caress) question, this place near my town has a Horror Business single signed by Jerry for $125, it is real, not bootleg, is this a reasonable price......someone..... **Cough** TAMMY**Cough**...... let me know. Thanks. Blag, You RULE.....OOOOOOPPPPSSS Imean You SUCK you fucking loser, is your dick so small and your brain so dead you have to take it out on others, why do you feel the need to tear everyone up? every time I read the bible I see some second grade bitch calling everyone names and starting shit and it is always you, if you want to do it, do it to them directly and not on the bible, if you want to flame me for this go ahead and flame me my email is {J-SIN254@juno.com} if you want to do more than have words I live in Leonia New Jersey, it is that simple, do it to me do it to them, but DO NOT do it on the bible. Mark and all who care, I know I promised tha NEWTAB but I just need to double check some parts, I want it to be correct for you guys I will send it to Mark asap. Sorry. Anyone going to the Danzig show at the Roseland in NY city? If so tell me and we'll hook up....especially you Blag. SINcerley, J-SIN Forgive me again Denmommy.... for I have SINned ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:54:59 +0100 From: Franz Ardito Subject: Ramones vs. Misfits if you look at it the ramones is the only punk band that for 20 years resisted the test of time, and in the whole music business there aren't many artists who can claim to have such a long career (which i don't think is pathetic at all). If the misfits had the same amount of guts back when they needed it, probably they would be listed too in some rock encyclopedia. It's not just great music that makes a great band. enough said. i think that the ramones are definitely at the top of CG's "punk as fuck meter" bye franz ------------------------------ From: Ryan McCallum Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:37:15 GMT Subject: Slayer/I Hate You etc... > > That other Slayer tune "I hate you" was oringinally(I think) done by Iggy > Pop's band Stooges?.I believe I read that somewhere. Perhaps on the American > page.Also Slayer change the lyrics cause they couldn't understand them or > somthin. Nope, I Hate You was originally by Verbal Abuse (from their AMERICAN BAND record. Check it out, it's real cool - although they turned into a real bad metal band later on...) As far as I can remember the lyrics are pretty much the same... And the Iggy track was "I'm Gonna Be Your God" aka "I Wanna Be Your Dog" (I think...) Hope that's of use (probably not...) Ryan. ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Adjusting to Danzig Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:02:15 -0500 This post is to all of you (like myself) that are having a difficult time accepting the new Danzig sound (balckacidevil) over the old sound we all once knew and loved. Go out to your favorite record store and buy the single for "Sacrifice." After listening to it you will probably either start crying or want to consider sacrificing the CD itself. The single contains six different mixes of the new Danzig song "Sacrifice." They are called the Rust Mix, Trust Mix, Must Mix, Crust Mix, Martyr Mix, and the album version. These mixes make this sound (which was originally my favorite from the new album) sound like it belongs in a dance club. The kind with the floor that lights up and the lazers, ect. When Blackacidevil came out I liked it put questioned the new direction Glenn was taking. Now that I heard this new single I don' t know what to think anymore. Between this new dance music and the fact that he got beat up by Def Leppard definatley changes my image of him. Later, Mark ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Want some fast cash? Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:10:35 -0500 If anyone wants some fast easy cash, all you have to do is sell me your Night Of The Living Dead 7." I am only interested in records that are in good condition, and they must include the fiend club insert. Also, I am willing to pay serious bucks for the glossy photo of the Misfits that came with the promotional copy of "Walk Among Us." If you don't have either Night Of The Living Dead, or the Misfits phot but are interested in selling some Misfits stuff, just let me know. If I don't buy it I know some other people that might. Later, Mark B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 00:32:05 -0800 From: mike inzerillo Subject: Samhain buttons who was the guy that was selling samhain pins? email me, I will shower you with money if you have any left. Is there anyone out there that can get me some SPEEDBALL white textile paint? The paint I finally found was watered down shit, and it doesn't work. ------------------------------ Date: 6 Jan 1997 14:00:38 -0000 From: Christoffer Jonsson Subject: AZ-Slayer + worst Misfits tunes AZ, you said that Slayer most cerainly NOT are a Nazi/racist band. Ok, wheres the proof? As it is now, theres more evidence pointing to extreme-right sympaties. Dont get me wrong here: I really really want them not being nazi since im a big fan. Fur christ sake, I got tears in my eyes when they played "Anti christ" + "chemical warfare" this summer. So if you got proof that they aint nazi Ill love ya for it. Everybodys posting their fave Fitz tunes... How bout posting the worst insted? Theres two Misfits songs I cant stand: "Ratt Fink" + "Braineaters". These two sukk so fukking hard its not even funny!!! As for "Braineaters": Why, oh why do a OI! song?!?! I love GOOD OI! punk but Misfits atempt at it only makes me cry. Love + Respect XDX --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 6 Jan 1997 14:25:02 -0000 From: dave rieth Subject: bootleg videos Still have Action Park Show to trade only don't have much access to e-mail til skool starts again I also have the orlando show 6-21-96 Samhain Show from Initium Tour and an unknown 'Fits show from 82-83 If you want a copy of any of these sent a bootleg video 45 min + to me at Dave Rieth 284 North Main Gloversville , Ny 12078 If I have it or don't want it I'll send it back w/ a note Anyone who has already sent me something should be recieving their video in about a week And whoever sent the social D tape I don't have you're address looking for: Rancid, Samhain, Misfits, Descendents, Agent Orange, Minor threat, actually pretty much any bands punk ska pop anything!If I don't want it I'll send it back! or I'll exchange a video for three dubbed audio bootlegs! --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:00:38 -0500 From: "Eddie H.Tomb" Subject: enough with the sightings!!! Jesus, is it truly necessary to post to the bible every time the number 138 pops up in your life? -Eddie H.Tomb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:44:51 -0500 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Roadtrip Well, I make my return after a three week vacation. I spent time in Monterey, Santa Cruz, & Santa Barbara, CA. After visiting record shops in all three towns I can honestly say that record stores in DC suck. I have never seen the variety of boots and regular releases in 3 years here in DC that I saw 3 weeks there. My favorite shop had to be Plastic Passion on State St. in SB. This place had Demonomania Club, Kill your Baby today, Shocking return, Vampira, Beware singles, and like three others. They didn't have any Samhaim, but they did have a copy of Dawn of the Undead, which I have never seen here in DC. They also had an amazing collection on Pixies, Tori Amos, and Soundgarden boots. If your into, that stuff like I am. I also saw copies of WAU and Final Decent used. Never seen that here. Two cool stories from the road. First, I was walking along Pacific Ave in Santa Cruz wearing my yellow Misfits security shirt I got at the Action Park show. I was offered money for it twice in the span of an hour. One guy was talking on a pay phone and went ballistic when he saw it said 'Security' on the back. Second, in the Airport in Pittsburgh there is one of those Air-Malls. There was a record shop in the mall the size of a closet. But yes, they had a copy of Earth AD and one od Collection 2. Even in the smallest of shops the Misfits have taken hold! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:57:42 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: live Samhain and more! listening to some Samhain live boots the other day... how much practice time did these guys get? on THE SHIFT, steve is all over the place tempo wise. on UNHOLY PASSION the bass is too loud, then too low. throughout the set, the guitar sound is thin as papyrus. glenn's voice sounds good, as usual, but he screws up lyrics here and there. funny thing is, they held it together better than EARTH AD-era Misfits. glenn also says: "These are the new guys: Eerie, Damien and Steve." New guys? hmmm... once again looking for TAB: MISFITS VOLUME I or any new material UNDEAD all songs KRYST DELIVER US FROM EVIL (entire EP) ROY ORBISON: "life fades away" SAMHAIN "night chill" "lords of the left hand" (rewrite) DANZIG "tired of being alive" "anything" (rewrite) "bodies" (guitar riff) "left hand black" (rewrite) "sadistikal" "i don't mind the pain" "hand of doom: version" (danzig riffs) "power of darkness" "ashes" (piano chords) "don't be afraid" (lyrics also) OTHERS John Christ solo material BLACK ARIA UNEASY LISTENING ryq = hinojos@bluenote.aero.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:18:32 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: I think we have a repeat on our hands... Hello fiends, at least almost all of you... First off, Blag you have some big words for your vocabulary i see. Plus you seem to now no the thoughts of every person on this bible too. That is amazing especially since we all know that only 10% or less of bible subscribers actually post. As for me thinking you are going to leave this place, i doubt it. you are drawn to any form of attention like a moth drawn to a flame. you picked a pefect subject for flaming. no one has flamed Bobby in quite a while and if you flamed Glenn it would have blended in with all the other bullshit. If you chose Jerry or Doyle it would have blended in too. For who you have met, you just described yourself as probably almost 1/2 - 3/4 of the bible subscribers. so i have to say you are becoming very worn and dried up. i guess your plan for attention would have worked a little bit better if you had actual reasons and proof of why your pissed at Bobby. OH on our little Earth AD thing, two things to let swim around your brains. 1) Earth AD sound wise and Blackacidevil is a product of its time. the hardcore sound in the early 80's and the push of industrial in the mid to late 90's. which could mean if Glenn follows his paterns that we will have something that should follow and have a good sound, ie Intiam from Samhain. 2) Mark's point on Glenn could have done what he wanted since the record was after the band had broken up, this could be his way of saying he lost control. Though there is one thing we must remember, who knows what Glenn was thinking, and he will do what pleases him. Ok Misfits 101... The 12" records have not been bootlegged, or at least what a bootleg would be. WAU has a bootleg double 7" and it comes in different color vinyls. Its no big deal and goes for $10 - 25. WAU first press has a pink like coloring to the sleeve, second press has a purple like coloring. Price wise $50-100 on the Pink, much less for the purple. The promo poster from WAU is a perfect square and has that same coloring as the first press. My thing is i want to find one sealed or in Mint condition, some people don't care. The Italian WAU where the S is missing off the Misfits is not easy to find, but the price i saw from Vinyl Ink was $80. I missed getting it and was pissed to say the least. Earth AD first press is a magenta coloring, this includes all the color vinyls. the other pressings that have Caroline / PLAN9 have a dark purple coloring. The color vinyls for this record can really range. Its more then the purple(200), yellow(200), clear(200), and green(100). I have a light purple that has blue, pink swirled and lined into it, then the one that is supposed to be purple is more magenta and has red or a dark color swirled and lines running through. Glenn told me when i had him sign the first one that there are a bunch of hybrids. He never gave me a reason of how they came about but the pressing of them are very low 150 or less. Prices can range just like the colors $35 - 250, that i know of. Getting a first press black is not that hard, with in my collecting efforts i have gotten three in total, two where gifts (one mint the other poor) and the second i found used for $3 and gave it to a friend. Legacy of Brutality is the black vinyl, red, white, and pink. i know there are suposed to be 16 pink but i think that there where hybrids in this situation too. especially when you have red and white as your two color vinyl options. I know that price wise Sal in NJ. was selling one back in 1989 or 1990 for $1000, the rumor was some 16 year old was paying him $100 every week or so. its possible since Sal had everything, and almost everything was signed. as for the 500 red and 500 white, $50 - 150. I have a red and it is a translucent vinyl. Die Die My Darling - there is a black vinyl one that is a thick vinyl, and it had an insert for t-shirt sales. I found that for $4. The colors where purple and white. I have the white and have some black bits in it, same as my white Three hits. Prices $30 - 100. I have never heard of color hybrids on this 12" but who knows. Evilive 12" - black is not hard to find and should be cheap, the green is a little harder but i have see several up for sale. Price $20-50. its a translucent green by the way. The German Earth AD and Evilive is not hard to find at all, price is $15 - 50. plus i have heard rumors that the Earth AD was pressed in colors like the Earth AD from the states but i have never seen one up for grabs or heard any fiend saying he or she found one. Last but not least there is the Flipside vinyl fanzine vol. 2. It has the track Attitude, and a news paper that has interviews with all the band and a nice one with the Misfits. Price, well i have never seen one for sale from any of the record place or traders from Goldmine Flipside or Maximum Rock and Roll. i got mine used for $5 with the new paper, i know fiends that have found then but no news paper inside. You just have to look around. Well this is all she wrote for detailing. Plus once i get all the details from Mark, all Misfits 101 info will be on Misfits Central so fiends who find some nice piece of vinyl can make sure they got the real thing. Its funny, any fiend can have a great collection of originals if they want to badly enough, even if they don't have the kind of money they think it would take. I found the first step was to stop buying the bootlegs, the scary thing is other traders and people who bought from me gave me the bootlegs for no reason what so ever. The end result of the Undertaker He sent me a poster that he autographed to me. thank g-d it was not something weird. by the way does anyone know if this guy is making a movie? the tube it came in says the Undertaker Movie. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Ressurection Site stufulufugus VOLENT WORLD LP, Ivan Putski Items for Sale! Re: Misfits Bible, #279 So I'm tired and i can't spell... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 JAN 97 13:46:15 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Slayer NOT Nazi No Misfits content here. I dont know if I have rock hard proof, but from the lyrics I've seen to their songs, including Angel of Death which is about Dr Josef Mengele, I have not seen anything that would indicate Nazism or racism. I have read several interviews with them and again, no mention of Nazism. I dont know how they feel deep down inside in their heart of hearts about stuff, but nothing they have said or sang about has led me to believe they are Nazis. If they were, I most definitly would NOT be listening to their music. Usually Nazi or white power bands tend to be very vocal about their beliefs, thats all they sing or talk about. This is definitly not happening with Slayer. There are others more knowledgeable about Slayerdom here I'm sure, please come forward (Chris Ternes put in a good plug for them last issue.) To the rest of the MB, please dont use this as an excuse to start talking about Nazism on here again, it always seems to get out of hand. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:47:26 -0800 From: R Hinojos Subject: Guitar TAB Misfits/Samhain/Danzig/Undead guitar and bass tab can be found at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/guitar.html along with a few other songs. whoever liked "we bite" off of EARTH AD: it's from DIE DIE MY DARLING, not EARTH AD. same with "mommy" and "die die". oooooooooooooahoahaohaoahaohaohaohaohahhh... BOOM! ... AD! AD! ryq ------------------------------ Subject: EARTH AD (yawn)/Talus/Glenn lies From: dave naked Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 13:52:42 EST >From: Crimson Ghost >Stupid laymen maybe... This is ridiculous. The Christian religion (and >I hold no stock in this.) but the religion is built on the fact that Christ is ALIVE. not >dead. If AD refers to "after death" what happened to those 33 or so years he was >alive? BC=Before Christ, AD=Anno Domini, meaning "The year of our Lord." >According to the Christian faith, Christ was only dead for 2 days. The whole religion >is built on the fact that he was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. Hence the >year of our lord, He is not dead, he lives among us... *cough*bullshit*cough. Well, I dont want to get into a entire religion thing here but BC and AD were invented and used to keep time, not only used by Christians. The calander was started around the time of Christ's demise. BC refers to the time Christ was alive and before. Since then the calander changed, probably due to horrible record keeping and numerous fires. Now it begins around the time of Christs birth (notice I say *around*, Christ was actually born in/around 6 BC). All this really comes down to us being 30-40 years off and were well in 2000. What does this have to do with EARTH AD??? Absolutely nothing. Think about it. Glenn named the album Earth AD, probably because it sounded cool. It does. Maybe just because its the first song on the album. Just take a look at the lyrics, "On Earth as it is in Hell". Its the same deal with "Halloween II" and its "non-standard" Latin lyrics. Glenn never thought people would look into what he did this criticly. Glenn wrote "Halloween II" in Latin for the same reason he titled his last album (with the misfits) Earth AD. It sounds fuckin evil. A few more things... In the new _metal edge_ Glenn seemed to comment on his first band TALUS: "I grew up in a band that was half original and half cover and half of the songs were Black Sabbath, they were a big influence on me when I was a kid". He then went on to say that he took A L L of The Misfits and Samhian's picture. Funny he was in just about all of them. Anyone know is photography is a part of TRADE SCHOOL? thats it for now dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:11:18 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Slayer, Earth AD, silkscreening First, re: Slayer. The "Nazi" image doesn't just come from an iron cross in their latest album. They have always used Nazi imagery in their graphics. They used a big German-style Eagle for their logo on "Seasons in the Abyss", for instance. The "S" usually used when they spell out "Slayer" is the same lightning bolt used on Nazi "SS" lapel-pins. And don't you remember the "Slatanic Wehrmacht" fan club a while back, with the T-shirts that depicted a zombie guy wearing a German WWII helmet? And of course they glorify Nazi war atrocities, for instance the song "Angel of Death" that opens the legendary "Reign in Blood" album. Plus, Kerry King shaved his head like a skinhead. But what's your point, you know? They do it because it's fucked up. Just like they sing about Satan and having sex with corpses. The whole point of the band is to be shocking and offensive. That doesn't mean they themselves are Nazis. Rednecks, maybe. -- The album "Earth AD" is named after the B-Movie "Invasion Earth 2150 AD"?? You mean the same movie whose full title is "Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150 AD", with Peter Cushing badly cast as Doctor Who?! Go figure. -- Finally, to Mike Inzerillo: Man, how hard can it be to find silkscreen inks?? Where do you live? I used to work at an art supply store that carried a pretty good amount of silk-screening supplies (mostly Speedball). If you absolutely can't get the stuff anywhere else I'm sure they'd be willing to ship to you. I don't have a phone number handy, but you could write to Andrew Lenz at Lenz Arts, 142 River St., Santa Cruz CA 95060. Tell 'em Neil McAllister sent you. The problem with white silkscreen ink is that it's generally the most fucked up to work with. You need to pile it on really thick in order to be opaque (the same problem that's true of most white inks/paints) and then your screen gets gummed up real fast and you have to clean it all the time. You also should be aware of the choice between water and oil-based inks. The oil-based inks will be more opaque and more permanent, but they will also give you that disgusting "plastic shirt" feel much faster, and if you put 'em on too thick they might even visibly crack. NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 04:30:03 -0800 From: Adam Reygers Subject: Snoop & Glenn A buddy of mine told me a story and I don't think it is true but I would like to know if anyone out there in Bible-Land has heard this one. Supposedly, Glenn ran into Snoop Doggy Dog backstage at some awards show and Snoop said something to the tune of "Outta my way, white-boy." Needless to say, Glenn busted him in the chopps. This comes from a friend of mine who says one of his buddies is one of Glenn's "people." I just want to know if anyone else heard about this and if it is a lie, I'll go kick my friends ass for embarassing me infront of 800+ people. Laters..... ADAMN(#15)SHAME ------------------------------ Date: 6 JAN 97 17:34:37 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: 138 Alot of newcomers have been asking " And I really wanna know what 138 means!". Well we aint telling. Its going to be the best kept secret in the world, and if someone lets out a peep, we're gonna send out Sgt D. Oh, and to all you new guys, we dont wanna hear about Saved By The Bell, unless your telling us one of them little hotties on the shows was seen naked somewhere beside "Showgirls" AZ ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:44:33 -0500 Subject: this time cg said: <From: ahren@thesea.com >Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:25:36 -0800 >Subject: new album title, Earth A.D.... >...As far as this classic punk Misfits >vs. hardcore Misfits thing goes, I think that is one of the things that >make the Misfits one of the planets better bands. I love how the Misfits >songs cover so much area, rockabilly, mutant 50's pop-rock, 70's punk, >hardcore, thrash, whatever. The ability to explore different areas of >music is an attribute of a true creative force. ... I look forward to seeing >any replys or feedback about this stuff. i compleatly agree with you. a bands ability to change every once in a while is the best thing about it. Take MetallicA for example, every one of their albums is different. thats what makes them so cool. weather or not you like the direction they have taken, you have to respect the need to change and try new things. i guess what i'm trying to say is that part of the reason i love the MisFits is that they have such a wide range in their songs, from American Nightmare to Mommy... its all cool!!! just my two cents, HellHound "Viddy well brother, viddy well" "ifyoutrytomakesenseofthisyoumightaswellputthebarrelinyourmouth" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 11:31:27 +0000 From: Aaron Lanham Subject: No Religion Hey Fiends, I think it is really amusing that everyone seems so interested in why Earth A.D. got its title when little Glenn seems so anti Christian. Well the answer is that he probably doesn't know either. Does anyone out there really think that Glenn is the man with all the answers? I doubt it. Glenn likes to talk alot about religion, but guess what? He is a Singer and a Songwriter, but he is not some prophet who left little clues for everyone to find the hidden meaning in. I can bet that he thought it sounded cool and that is that. Glenn isn't divine so who gives a fuck what he thinks about christianity or any other religion. He writes good songs about martians but is anyone trying to figure out if really believes in them? Who cares. The music of Earth A.D. is more important than the fucking title. Glenn is just a short dude with a good voice, he takes a shit every day just like you and me and he doesn't know anymore about god than anyone else. By the way, Earth A.D.'s music is SHIT anyway. Later Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 21:15:39 +0000 From: sean barron Subject: are we fiends or sheep first it was nice to see an issue where people talked shit about jerry why is it when something happens the majority of postsers change there opinions second i got the crimson ghost on video colerized at the store i work at also on that day i had orders come up to 525 and 1962 (who killed marilyn) and called my boss on extention 138 and finally on the ramones/misfits all i have to say is 1-2-3-4 all the ramones fans will agree ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:39:30 -0500 Subject: earth ad? how would you explain titles like "godless", "heart of the devil", etc that were long after earth ad? D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 00:01:55 -0500 From: Chris Ferrell Subject: New album title possibilities and just for you: Eddie H. Tomb.... Attention Fiends: (Wow, that almost sounded importent...) O.k., I was thinking since the 'Fits are now a band "For the Fiends, by the Fiends, and blah blah blah... That we should all post what WE think the new album name should be and then Someone (Mark?) could put'em all together and give it to Jerry in a big list type of form... So here are some possibilities... Paradox Evilution BlackAssholeRebel Monsters Get of Evil Nightmares (This wouldn't sound too bad w/ a 'Volume 1' attached to it) Godzilla vs. the MiSfiTs Evil Descends the Dark Umbra DeMeNTaTioN Chainsaw Bearing Werewolf Babies Kibatsumejutsu (Roughly translated "the art of fighting with fang and claw") Skull Shatter (Which I'm sure it'll do if you turn it up loud enough) the Rending Or the 'Fits could just put a bunch of stupid-ass symbols on the front like Zepplin 4 - They could have an upside-down peace sign, with some lame sqiggles on either side and a crimson ghost skull over looking the whole thing. And finally... Just for you Eddie... Some 138 sightings... *Dec. 28th, 1996 - USA network shows an episode of "Renegade" and the dude has $138 in his wallet... *There are 138 scratches in my headboard... *Today I logged onto my internet server and my top speed was 13800 bps. *I happen to own 138 CD's... *There are 138 crossword puzzles in the Detect-o-Rama Crosswords and more book... *I saw a license plate the other day: LB1 38N... *A man in Port Charlotte, FL named A. Squibb has the phone # of 627-1388 try it if you don't believe me... _-=AND FINALLY=-_ *You know how many licks it takes to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop??? A HUNDRED AND THIRTY-EIGHT!!! Later Fiendies... -Chris Ferrell Rancor@sunline.net LastCaress on mIRC "I'm an young man at odds with the Bible, but I don't pretend faith never works." -Tin Machine "Bus Stop" ------------------------------ From: "Cheryl M. Walley" Subject: vinyl Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:18:45 -0600 (CST) Call me stupid, but I'm just wondering if anyone knows what the difference is between vinyl and wax, and what the fuck is an acetate? It's late, I'm reading back issues of the Bible, and questions like this seem to arise from nowhere. Well, not nowhere, I think something in one of the back issues sparked a thought. Good day, night, evening, morning, afternoon, Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukkah, Happy new year, fuck it, Happy Birthday, You are 138, Am I Demon, I'm tired of being alive because it's a long way back from Hell. So let the day begin. Sleep deprivation rules. -itchy "...but politically, Bill Clinton doesn't have orgasms." - Sammy Contagious ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 09:19:13 +0000 From: Julian Baldry Subject: For Those About To Rick For anyone out there who doesn't believe that Rick Rubin tries to make bands sound a certain way, please listen to the following (Rubin produced) albums: The Cult - Electric The Four Horsemen (first album) Danzig (first album) Then listen to AC/DC circa 'Back In Black' and 'For Those About To Rock' and ask yourself if Mr Rubin has ever allowed his personal taste to 'influence' his production style. Julian ------------------------------ From: ebossick@pnsnet.co.jp Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:48:01 +0900 Subject: EARTH AD About EARTH AD: Mind you, in laymens terms, AD is "After Death" (and BC > is Before Christ). Glenn wasnt the smartest guy at the time (trade > school??), Im sure he had no idea of the actual meaning of AD. Your EARTH AD - Earth After Death - After the Death of the Earth. That's how I read it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 10:05:45 -0500 From: Kevin Subject: Misfits Portfolio I Fiends: The Misfits Portfolio I is finally available on-line. For ordering info and to get a look at the portfolio itself, go to http://www.student.toplinks.com/hp/kuder/misfits.htm Kuder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:46:25 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Ann Freehafer <02459@udel.edu> Subject: New Rave If anyone has a copy of the issue of New Rave magazine with Glenn on the cover or any information about it at all, PLEASE email me. Emily ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 13:22:41 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Re: Earth AD & Punk Rock in Particular I know this may be too deep for a Misfits discussion, but no one has mentioned that maybe Glenn DID meand for the album to mean - earth in the year of our lord. Y'know - some social commentary of like - look, here it is 1982 years of Christianity under our belts and this is the state of the world today. I dunno - I don't own the actual album except on the box set so I can't really look at the artwork - and as for the songs - who knows - I tossed that tape out years ago cuz I thought the album was a waste of plastic (The one Misfits release that I just can't stand). As for this Ramones, Punk Rock, Green Day discussion. Anyone who thinks that a punk band "sells out" cuz they get on a major label or have a hit song is ignorant or naive - the "puritanism" of the punk movement is, for the most part, a myth. The early New York scene (Ramones, patti Smith, etc) were rebelling agaonst the "progressive" stuff of the early 70's, but they, like all other bands, were hoping that being a musician was something that they could make a career off of. Same with the Sex Pistols - hell, Malcom McLaren initially financed and promoted the band in order to promote his line of clothing from his store (which was called "Sex"). In fact, it was a major goal of the Pistols to get signed to a MAJOR label (not an indie one) and when A&R men started signing up punk bands left and right - none of them complained or turned them down. Hell - the Clash got a 100,000 pounds for signing their first contract. Yes the "do-it-yourself" attitude was very much a part of that scene (as seen in all the indie 45's and the fanzines) but no one wouldn't have not allowed themselves to gain popularity in order either promote their message and/or make a living doing it. And once punk bands started coming out of the woodwork and hopping up on stage at places like Max's Kansas City or the Roxy in London - that whole attitude dissappeared - soon there were enough bands to be able to say - some of them could do it and some of them could not. Doing it yourself no longer was the important thing - you had to be good at it as well (or you at least had to give the people in the crowd something that they could respond to). Like when people on here were complaining about the Misfits selling out cuz they signed to Geffin - yeah, like if you were in a band that a lot of people liked you would turn down a contract to have a record company pay for your recording time, your touring, packaging and distribution of your album so that you could sit in your basement and glue record sleeves together one at a time and pay for everything out of your own pocket (if you ansered yes - you're full of shit). The bottom line is that punk rock, like any other form of music, from classical to country to metal, is a form of entertainment - nothing more. I have never met one single musician in a punk band (or any other band for that matter) who denied that he would like to make enough money to support themselves comfortably for the rest of their lives by playing music or said that he didn't want to be famous. Eddie Vedder says that all the time and we know he's full of shit - if he dosen't wanna be a media figure - he'd quit. The same goes for any of these bands. And finally - punk - like all other movements, has always been very elitest. That can be seen here in practically every issue. People will make a big deal about the punk attitude of doing what you like and not giving a shit about what anyone else thinks. Then these same people will say that a certain group (who are doing exactly that - doing what THEY want to do) aren't punk because they are not behaviong in a certain way. Does that make sense? To be "punk" (whatever the hell that really means) you should do things your own way - but if you do not do them the right way - then you are not "punk". As for Green Day - they worked hard for a while and now they're making money for their efforts - what's wrong with that? I don't care for GD, but hey - a lot of others do - whatever floats your boat you know. But if I were to tell other people that what they like isn't cool because I don't like it - now that wouldn't be very punk now would it. Now that I'm done ranting - I'm gonna go put on a new age album and have a beer. TYPE-O NEGATIVE: Lithuanian Hall: Baltimore, MD - January 14, 1997 DANZIG: Capital Ballroom: Washington, DC - January 28, 1997 =============================================================================== Stephen Gorny [] In California, the people voted to do away Department of Psychology [] with racial preferences in hiring and University of MD Baltimore County[] school admissions and to legalize the use 5401 Wilkens Avenue [] of marijuana for medicinal purposes. Baltimore, MD 21228-5398 [] Members of the federal government are [] vowing to fight these referendums. sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu [] It's a good thing that we have such [] officials in Washington - otherwise, the [] laws of this country might be determined by [] its citizens =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 14:11:41 -0400 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST ADAM WEST is playing TONITE at the BLACK CAT in DC. 1831 14th Street, NW DC (between S & T Streets) 8:30 p.m. SHARP! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:10:34 -0600 From: Zork Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #279 >Alright, somebody wanted to know who wrote 'I hate you' on Slayer's new >album...I think Jeff Hanneman wrote it. That and Ddamn were the 2 original >punk songs other than the last song on the album. Nope...according to the liner notes, "I Hate You" was written by Eric "Joie" Mastrokolas, Brett Dodwell and Roy Hansen, who, I assume, are members of Verbal Abuse, the band that Ryan McCallum said originally recorded the song... >I don't think "Issue One" is too bad of a title. It makes it sound like a >comic book. I like comic books...anyway, I prefer it to "Dead Kings Rise" Personally, I think the title "Issue One," "Volume One" or whatever it is is a lame title...the 'Fits should be able to come up with something cooler than that...but if you really wanted it to be like a comic book, wouldn't volume TWO be a more appropriate title? >Everybodys posting their fave Fitz tunes... How bout posting the worst instead? >There's two Misfits songs I cant stand: "Ratt Fink" + "Braineaters". These two >sukk so fukking hard its not even funny!!! As for "Braineaters": Why, oh why do >a OI! song?!?! I love GOOD OI! punk but Misfits attempt at it only makes me cry OK, I can understand hating "Ratt Fink," which is probably my least favorite Misfits song (followed closely by "Static Age") but "Braineaters"? Shit, I thought everyone loved that song...it kicks major ass, especially cranked at loud volumes while cruising down the expressway! One more thing, I'm really digging the Misfits 101 lessons Tammy! Later, Zork ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Earth A.D. - Yet another theory Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:32:41 -0500 I know we have been talking about Earth A.D. or some time now, but I might have some more input. In previous Misfits Bible Post (about 2-3 ago) Crimson Ghost said that Earth A.D. didn't show off Glenn's voice and that Samhain showed a more obvious progression in sound from Walk Among Us. I totally agree with this, but if Glenn's strong point is his voice, what the hell is Blackacidevil all about? -On the flip side- Last Misfits Bible Tammy Said: "OH on our little Earth AD thing, two things to let swim around your brains. 1) Earth AD sound wise and Blackacidevil is a product of its time. the hardcore sound in the early 80's and the push of industrial in the mid to late 90's. which could mean if Glenn follows his paterns that we will have something that should follow and have a good sound, ie Intiam from Samhain." Tammy, this is very insightful and I agree with you, but only to a point. The difference is when Earth A.D. came out, it totally broaded the horizions of hadcore of that era. That record gaped the relationship between fans of Youth Brigade with Slayer fans running around with "Show No Mercy" shirts. It was worshiped my both. Blackacidevil, however, is nothing that hasn't already been none (NIN, Filter, ect...). Its more of a follower, whereas Earth A.D. was a leader. My personal opinion is that I do not think that this record represents some big power stuggle between Glenn and Jerry. I think both of them knew exactly what they were doing, and both wanted it released, even if it happened after they broke up. -Food For Thought- One last thing, if in fact Earth A.D. was motivated by Jerry and that is why Glenn left, then he probably would not autograph copies of it, much like he doesn't autograph the Misfits Box Set. Later, Mark Blackman I am working on a Trading Post web site for records (especially Misfits) so keep an eye out. ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Wher did the Collection II review go? Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:45:43 -0500 Mark, in the news section of Misfits Central, there used to be a review of Collection II by Jerry. I was just wondering where it went. Later, Mark Blackman ------------------------------ From: WOLFER138@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:49:00 -0500 Subject: Ressurection Site The MIsfits Ressurection web page!! http://members.aol.com/wolfer138/ressurection.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 23:10:48 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: stufulufugus hello fiends, first denmom gave her opinion: >Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 18:26:36 -0500 >From: PRH >HUH???!!!? Anyone ELSE here think that Samhain is a METAL band? Gahd. Theyre >way too minimalist...making them --dare I say it--a PUNK kinda band? >If you described Danzig even as a metal band I wouldnt necessarily disagree >but Samhain? now that is my opinion I didnt say I didnt like samhain I like them allot. Yeah there is a punk side to it but I still say ity was an entrance to danzig which was a metal band, a very good one at that with an excep;tional singer, who wrote great songs. and then, speculated D-Rod: >Oh yea, I belive >the song EARTH A.D. was based on a great old movie called the HILLS HAVE >EYES. Definetly worth renting and checking out!! that movie sucked and it was deffinently not about the song. as a matter of fact I I wanted to use it for my B-movie madness tape but it had nothing to do with the song and it doesnt even say the hills have eyes in the whole movie. >. In the current Metal Edge, he >basically says that he always likes his current album best because that's >what his tastes are today, whereas by the time he puts out a new album in >2 years, his tastes will be slightly different, and hence Danzig 6 will >be, too. This is probably the case with EAD, so it's not too surprising >that they don't like it much after 13 or so years. (although I like it) Yes! This is why I think that no matter what glenn does he could never sell out. To sell out he would have to do sumthin he knows sux and he isnt about or likes. I think he has done blackacidevil cuz it is a representation of what he likes and listens to. It is cool though I mean it isnt my fav danzig but it is still good, and that is the cool thing about all the misfits, samhain, and danzig albums that they are different and not the same trash over and over again. >From: "Barry E. Beitz" >Subject: Madrezid Video Fanzine, Volume 2 >Madrezid Video Fanzine, Volume 2 > I want a copy, can someone hook me up? (cheap?) I want this also ! To everyone we need to get all these videos and boots of shows to chris ternes(audio) and dirt(video) so we can all get these cheap and not get ripped off. like this: >From: dave rieth >Subject: bootleg videos >Still have Action Park Show to trade only don't have much access >to e-mail til skool starts again I also have the orlando show 6-21-96 >Samhain Show from Initium Tour and an unknown 'Fits show from 82-83 >If you want a copy of any of these sent a bootleg video 45 min + to get this to dirt! I know I want this video and so do allot of people! I know that is hard to get people to give this up I mean why? I am sorry that you had to pay for the boot and want some stuff in return but I am sure that people would be more then happy to send you stuff regardless. I have found out about 4 copies of this show floating around and I cant get one person to give it up or even write down a damn set list! WHY? later D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:04:59 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: VOLENT WORLD LP, Ivan Putski there is an ad for the VIOLENT WORLD cover album in the current issue of A.P. (ALTERNATIVE PRESS). it is the magazine with Marilyn Manson on the cover. that should narrow down your search to only about 93.6% of the rock magazines published in the past 2 months. The ad had a guy running or otherwise freaking out somehow, and a list of the bands featured at the bottom. At the top it says "14 classic misfits songs. 14 great bands" ...all in standard-type, no Misfits logo or anything. > From: PRH > I'd really like everyone to know: I never took a yardstick too him or > anything but I just dont think of Glenn as all that short. 5'5" maybe,at the one mag said he was 5'6". When i was standing next to him getting a photo taken he wasn't noticeably any higher than i was. and i ain't tall.(5'4") i haven't got a copy of the photo yet though... > I know this isnt the Ramones list but I'd like to add that that type of > music is the very type they pioneered for groups like the Misfits. Which > makes them GODS. curious choice of words. > From: Neil McAllister > Subject: Glenn vs. Rick Rubin > Everyone seems to be taking for granted Glenn's claim that he left American > because "Rick Rubin wanted Danzig to sound like AC/DC". To me, this > doesn't make much sense. I mean, I'll be the first to point out that Rick actually he said a few times that the main reasons were the increased corporate record-company bullcrap, and not getting paid. (oddly enough, someone on here a while back claimed that RR booted GD off because Glenn was not paying Rick his royalties...i guess American Recordings exists in some fantasy world where the artists pay the record companies the royalties). Glenn also claimed that RR had very little to do with any Danzig album since the first one. finally, the next person to use the word "punk" will be destroyed. -I AM THE MASTER OF THE POWER-BOMB ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jan 7 01:04:34 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Items for Sale! Hey- I need money so I gotta sell a few of my more valuble pieces. I'll take offers but I have a limit to how low I will go on certain ones. Anyway, mail me and give it a shot. Walk Among Us- 1st Pressing w/ Fiend Club insert. NM- Die Die My Darling- 1st pressing VG (vinyl) G+ (cover) $10 OBO Collection II- Clear vinyl (NM) Legacy of Brutality- 1st pressing (VG+) SAMHAIN- Initium red vinyl (NM-) OTHER STUFF (sorry to bug you guys with it but... you might like!) Black Sabbath- Black Sabbath (original pressing) make an offer Beastie Boys- Rock Hard 12in ep (rare...:) Bad Brains- Rock For Light (original pressing... superior original mix) Black Flag- Everything Went Black (original "no name" version) vinyl/cover rough Buzzcocks=- Another Music/Different Kitchen (original United Artists(UK)) Elvis Costello and the Attractions- Elvis Goes To Washington and Dave Edmonds...Don't (GREAT live broadcast double record boot from '79 along with dave edmonds/rockpile material) Channel 3- After The Lights Go OUt (original promo in die cut sleeve) Descendents- Milo Goes To College (original on New Alliance) I Don't Want To Grow Up (ditto || ) Enjoy (original on Restless/New Alliance with poster insert not in other versions) Dead Kennedys- Give Me Convenience (Canadian pressing (FRINGE) on better vinyl than Alt. Tentacles uses!) In God We Trust (original on Statik) Fresh Fruit For... (original Cherry Red/Hafenklang Germanpress) DYS- Self titled (classic Boston band's second LP) F Word- Live Like It Or Not! (Posh Boy's First 12in! RARE!) The Jam- Snap! (double LP, us pressing) 999- High Energy Plan (PVC US pressing w/ notch cut) Biggest Prize in Sport, Concrete (us pressings) SCREECHING WEASEL- SCREECHING WEASEL (original pressing, weasel fan musthave) Pete Shelley- Homosapien (hehe.... from Columbia House Can!:P) Sham 69- Hersham Boys (WITH BONUS 12 INCH, first UK press!) Vandals- Peace Thru Vandalism (original pressing on Epitaph. Rare.) Undertones- Undertones (notch cut first american pressing) Wire- Peel Sessions LP (UK pressing) 154 (Original UK pressing) X Ray Spex- Germ Free Adolescents (original UK pressing) John Wayne- Texas Funeral (Butthole surfers in cognito) comps--- ENJOY! old hip-hop compilation. mail for more info. Big Apple- Rotten To The Core- w/ ISM, SQUIRM, THE MOB, KILLER INSTINCT, BUTCH LUST and mORE..... OLD NY PUNK COMP FROM '82! Rodney on the ROQ V2 (original pressing) w/ TARGET 13, Social Dist, BLACK FLAG, SHttered Faith, MINUTE MEN, red cross, CH3, agent Orange, unit 3 w/ venus, GEZA X and more... Decline of the WEstern Civ. (original pressing on J Ruby Records- and you thought Glenn used a crappy record pressing plant!) IRS Greatest Hits Vols 2 & 3 - Damned, Squeeze,"klerk" kent, the stranglers, chelsea , cramps, police, john cale, oingo boingo, buzzcocks, etc! and LiVE AT THE TARGET w/ FLIPPER nervous gender, factrix, and uns. ultra rare. thank you for your time! --------------==============================------------------ Got up this morning to make some coffee; Everything sucks today. allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ From: CHaragan@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:02:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #279 In a message dated 97-01-06 12:31:12 EST, you write: >8 > >? WHO HAS EARTH A.D. G TABS. REALLY INTERESTED!!! CHaragan @ aol.com. Please write. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:05:12 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: So I'm tired and i can't spell... Hello fiends... First off, i don't want to here about the fact that i spelled Initium wrong, let's see how any of you spell after 3 nights without sleep. It was such a nice blend of insomnia and some damn car alarm going off every 5 minutes. Next, The whole Earth AD thing, well it starts off with Glenn, he wrote it all and if most people have noticed the man does write songs and titles that have meaning at least to him. he's suposed to have been brought up as a Protestant, but why would someone with those beliefs get into the whole Pagan, he seems to have interests in the Pagan, Occult, ESP stuff, but why would someone like that chase down a rare copy of the Old Testement written in not Hebrew but in a Mediterranean language. So here we are, its an interesting topic to say the least and it beats listening to fiends flaming other fiends. Let it stay at that. As for you Brett, i have never taken an Art History class in all my college years. I studied Graphic Design, Computer Graphics, Education and a slew of Business classes(the rest is to many to post). As for the guys signing stuff, from experience Glenn and Jerry tend to sign where their picture is if the cover has a picture with them. The only exception in my collection is a first press black vinyl Unholy Passion, Glenn got carried and way, signed near a female private area, but at that time he was already getting goofy. As for this in general, Brett you have been there too, I think you do recall how intense you got over the Glenn VS everyone from Def Leppard thing. ;) Jason - to me $125 is high for a Horror Business, but the range that i know is: Cheapest i could find back in 1991 $80 - and around the same time $200 for one signed by Glenn. These prices are for a regular Horror Business, it would be much higher if it was the double A side label and or the alternate sleeve. what you could do is see if this place would take part cash and part trade. you might save a bit of money there. New Misfits 101 actually Collecting... as i have said before, anyone can collect the Misfits with very little money you just have to know how. First off trading does work, and a lot of times the stuff i sold to make money to pay for my Misfits records i found used at a local record store. No one has a knife to your back saying it has to be payed in cash or credit. Just make the offer and see where it goes from there. I did not have $250 for a color vinyl Earth AD, plus being the fact that what was sold to me was rarer then the guy realized. Most places would like to get other rare items to sell to other collectors. This guy though he was getting the deal of the century, a Beware that was in eh condition and a Cows and Beer 7" which is worth $50, but he didn't know that i paid $10 for it. Magazines like Maximum Rock and Roll where i found the best people to trade with. No one was as lucky as i was to find a guy who couldn't make up his mind if he would collect Misfits of Sub Pop. Every year i would get some great original Misfits or Samhain record for real cheap. The European traders always have cool stuff too, i got some bootlegs that i have never seen for sale here in the states. what do you have to do, write to all the people who have Misfits stuff in their ads. There are some people who you should be very careful with and try to check out who you are trading with. No one wants to deal with getting ripped off, its a big pain in the ass. Nothing like bitching at someone for 6 months i want my record or my money. I search the internet when i have time too, there are some record store on there that carry punk and hardcore. though you have to wait till they get some Misfits stuff. Next time a little more on Getting the originals, and not hacking off an arm and a leg to do it. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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