Misfits Bible, Number 281 Friday, January 10th 1997 Today's Topics: Slayer!!! Slayer. New Album Title The incredibly boring post that stopped guitar tab earth after death THE EL DUCE? omygod, he's my fuckin' hero ... chyna american nightmare, slayer Slayer, nazis, etc. hi Nazis, silkscreens Slayer I NEED A BOOTLEG OF THE SEATTLE, WASHINGTON SHOW!! Glenn a 90210 fan? glennsd beliefs Adam West rocks DC Re: Misfits Bible, #280 ANO DOMINI Re: Misfits Bible, #280 Re: Misfits Bible, #280 There is a dick in EVERY crowd! Harlock shirts glenn vs snoop Walk Among Us - Halloween Bag Misfits Cover Band : Needs Name My thoughts on Glenn and EAD samhain bootleg mailing lists. Re: Actor Glenn ADAM WEST If the Misfits can go to Czechoslovakia, Danzig can go to Ybor City... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 JAN 97 09:49:11 EST From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com Subject: Slayer!!! Hi All: Whats the deal with Slayer?? Slayer is not a NAZI BAND NOW OR EVER WAS!!! Slayer is one of the only true metal bands that is still around and hasn't changed they style. They didn't go industrial like Nine Inch Glenn!!! Not that I dont like Danzig, but I dont like the way he is going now. I hope Slayer keeps going cause I really like their music and they kick ass in concert!!!! GK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 10:11:19 -0500 From: Kevin Subject: Slayer. Hey, As far as I know from what I read Slayer is not a nazi band nor are they into satanism. They are into war and the occult as a hobbie. They are fascinating subjects that are found in books and movies as well as music. They read about it and write songs about it because that type of subject matter fits the thrash/death sound of their music. It doesn't mean that they worship satan or follow Hitler's beliefs. You guys shouldn't be so damn gullible. Do you think that Glenn actually went out and hacked the heads off little girls and put them on his wall? No, he wrote that because he was interested in horror movies and he was inspired by them. Don't get me wrong, there ARE bands that worship satan and practice nazi beliefs, but don't automatically believe it because you hear some stupid rumors. Seek the facts. Kuder ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:56:03 -0800 From: John Frederick Subject: New Album Title >O.k., I was thinking since the 'Fits are now a band "For the Fiends, by >the Fiends, and blah blah blah... That we should all post what WE think >the new album name should be and then Someone (Mark?) could put'em all >together and give it to Jerry in a big list type of form... So here are >some possibilities... If they still plan on using the Famous Monsters Of Filmland cover they should make the title something like "You Axed For It". Is Basil Gogos doing the cover art? Are they going to have Lon Chaney Sr. or the Crimson Ghost in the top left hand corner? Also, shouldn't it be Volume 2, Number 1? Does anyone really care... John _______________________________________________ "Never trust a eunuch!" - Edmund Plantaganet (1461-1498) _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 18:48:58 -0800 From: PtrMlr Subject: The incredibly boring post that stopped living and became another one of those horribly mixed up Misfits sightings. OK. here we go: In the new PSYCHOTRONIC VIDEO GUIDE (wich everyone should own by now...) the Crimson Ghost serial has a rather large entry (there's even a nice b/w pic). It reads exactly like this: ---------------------------- THE CRIMSON GHOST (Republic, 1946) Director: William Witney, Fred C. Bannon Screenwriter: Albert Desmond, Basil Dickey, Jesy Duffy, Sol Shore This 12-chapter Republic serial stars Charles Quigley as the criminologist hero and Linda Stirling as his assistant. The Crimson Ghost (I. Stanford Jolly provided the voice) steals the cyclotrode, a device that can short.circuit all electricity. He also has control collars for his henchmen. When the collars are pulled off they're killed by an electric shock. The ghost is one of the greatest serial images , a mystery man in a cape with a skull face and glaring eyeballs. An 80s New York City band, the Misfits, used the ghost as their symbol. With Clayton Moore, Keenean Duncan, and Eddie Parker. The 1966 condensed feature version is called Cyclotrode X. On cable TV it's been shown colorized and cut. ---------------------------- That's it. Hope you didn't fell asleep. Peter. Another thing wich has nothing to do with the Misfits: if somehow (I don't know how) someone got the impression because of one of my posts somewhere in Bible #265-275, that Chris Hatcher rips people off - it's not true. Are you satisfied man? So when's that cd gonna be in my mail box... ;) -- 'Und keine Eier!' TOOL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:24:11 -0500 From: sLImE peRSoN Subject: guitar tab I know this isn't a Minor Threat page but I've noticed them mentioned once or twice and I figured maybe some of the readers may be able to help me. I'm looking for an internet site that has or some person who just happens to have guitar tab to any of their stuff, especially SALAD DAYS and MINOR THREAT... I'd also be interested in a page with lyrics. Anyone's help is appreciated. Kevin Hilyard ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:09:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: earth after death ebossick said: < Subject: THE EL DUCE? omygod, he's my fuckin' hero ... Happy New Year Fiendlies -- Just got back from vacation and found my miserable self referred to in TWO bibles -- woo hoo! Yes, twas *I* who invoked THE MENTORS!@#$*! For a real treat, seek out their VERY early material, when they were on Mystic Records -- a pretty seminal Calif. punk label (Dr. Know, Flower Lepers, RKL, Slaughterhouse 5, and a host of excellent compilation records.) Frankly, I don't see much of a comparison to GWAR as someone put it --- those bands are from two different worlds (literally!) As far as the great A.D. debate, I can't believe the amount of folks on the bible who actually think that it means "after death." What do they teach you damn whippersnappers in school nowadays? As mentioned by others, it means anno domini, or "year of our lord" as you often hear it in films and such that have a medieval feel. Not too diabolic there, I always thought the title was a reference to the film "Dracula A.D. 1972." (though I'm not sure that's the exact title) a decent flick with our black-clad hero sucking the vital fluids from a bunch of hippies who had the misfortune of disturbing his slumber. However, it's not too much a stretch to assume that the actual meaning of A.D. also escaped the collective Misfits mind and the title does indeed (to them) mean Earth After Death --- as the cover art might lead one to believe. Though I haven't picked up Blackacidevil (and don't intend to), "Sacrifice" gets some late night airplay on our "Modern Rock Station" here in Philly. Not to rehash what others have said -- but geez, Trent Reznor should fucking get royalties! Since the "solo" Danzig is not as much of a screamer, that sung chorus makes me feel like I've been chewing on tin foil! I've also heard a "dance" remix in a club and it was at least tolerable -- of course, it could have been the 8 shots of Jagermeister clouding the brain that night :( My top five? (1) Vampira (2) Devil's Whorehouse (3) Hybrid Moments (4) Astro Zombies (5) All Hell Breaks Loose. BUT I LOVE EM ALL!!!!! So I can finally be timely -- the great Slayer debate. Unless a band is blatantly white power (Screwdriver, etc.), how can ANYONE label a band by the affiliations and beliefs of its fans. Many years ago, I worked with a skin who tried hard to hide his beliefs. Ok, he didn't try THAT hard, as he was soon fired for drawing swastikas in the employee bathroom -- and his favourite band was Minor Threat -- and all of his pitiful Aryan brothers dug that straight edge stuff too! I remember when the death metal band Suffocation (whose lead guitarist is black) headlined at a local club. The pit was packed with Nazi skins who let loose a barrage of "Seig Heils" between every song. If they really felt so strongly about that garbage, then what the hell were they doing there in the first place? Yes, Slayer does have some "Naziesque" imagery, the MOST telling of which seems to be the "eagle" logo they've done lately. Slayer's fan club is indeed called "Slatanic Wehrmacht." Let's get one thing straight -- Kerry King shaved his head `cause he *WAS GOING BALD* and there's no "Thrash Hair Club for Men" as far as I know. But ... I was fortunate enough to interview Dave Lombardo (Slayer's BEST drummer -- and probably one of the great thrash drummers of all time) about his new band Grip, Inc. for a zine I used to publish called "Reaper's Harvest." Without naming names or citing anything specific, he alluded to the fact that the racist beliefs of the rest of the band (Lombardo is Hispanic) were to blame for much of the turmoil. At one point in the interview --- he said to me, "Let's put it this way -- Angel of Death is more than just a story song ... " OK, so I've contradicted myself repeatedly -- but let's not brand probably one the greatest bands in the genre as Nazis due to the actions of the misguided fucks who appear in HBO documentaries with "Decade of Agression" banners behind them. That's my lot. Mentors Quote of the Week: "Got a bag of China White, that says yer gonna get naked tonight!" Satan Loves You --- and So Do I! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:07:33 -0500 (EST) From: asenath Subject: chyna american nightmare, slayer chyna is playing at connections in clifton nj on friday there is a band called american nightmare playing in philly tonight, the 8th, does anyone know anything about them? are they a misfits cover band or influenced by? slayer are as much nazi's as they are satanists. take that as you will... depending on how serious you take them... i don't... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : every day is halloween... : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:36:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Slayer, nazis, etc. I will continue to reitterate that Slayer are NOT Nazis. As I said before, the lead singer/bassist is Latino, and at recent concerts and instores there were several non-whites there enjoying themselves, and the guys were equally cool to everyone. If subtle Nazi references make you a Nazi (ie Slayer using the iron eagle, iron crosses, etc etc), then Glenn Danzig must be a pretty big one. Not only does he wear the SS's Death Head, but in the song "Lords of the Left Hand" there is a line "Triumph of the will.....superman". Superman would be in reference to Frederich Nietzsche's view of the superior being, which the Nazis compeletely misinterpreted as a reference to the Aryan race. Triumph of the Will is the name of perhaps the most famous Nazi propaghanda film. Anyway, this is really off the topic of Slayer. I also distinctly remember them stating that they were not Nazis in an interview....I'll hunt it up. As far as the "S" in Slayer.....gee Kiss must be Nazis, too. Angel of Death does NOT GLORIFY anything. It instead describes. If they were Nazis, wouldn't they have denied the existence of the Holocaust? They actually constantly said that this song does not glorify but instead is meant to show just how fucked up the Nazis were. If they were glorifying it, they did a poor job. Kerry King shaved his head. So did I. Why? I got sick of having long hair. I was sick of having knots in it and spending a shit load of time on it. I suspect that the reasons may be the same, especially since he head bangs a lot more than I ever did. Also, he's got tattoos on his head now. I suppose the fact that Michael Jordan shaves his head is irrevelant... The eagles....why do they use that? I don't know. My guess is because it looks cool. Go through any book of Nazi memorabilia or whatever and you will find the coolest looking stuff. That's not to say it stands for anything that is right, but if it looks cool, and they don't have to pay royalties to anyone. Why not? Look around the metal scene, and you will find a lot of bands use Nazi symbols, many I would guess unintentionally. I hope that this conversation is kept to a mature manner, it is often a difficult one to sustain, so as soon as it turns bad, I think we should all agree to can it. Chris ------------------------------ From: SeanC138@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 20:07:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: hi Hey fiends!!! This is my first time posting to the bible. I live in Springfield, Illinois unfortunately so not many people share my interests in music. I love all types of music and I love the Misfits. I am a big fan of death metal as well. I saw the Misfits play this summer with the new singer and it was my first time seeing them live. I never had the chance to see them with Glen unfortunately. I was totally blown away at the energy these guys put out in a show. I believe they played every song they ever recorded and it was 100% effort on their part. I have never seen a band give that much energy to a crowd in my life. I walked out of that show and couldn't believe it. I will admit it was at the Milwaukee Death Fest and they blew every single death metal band that whole weekend hands down. So I have been trying to hunt down anything I can find on the Misfits. I have always liked them but when I saw them live I fell in love. What a great fucking band. I have gotten a hold of a tape that is a cable access show from Michigan called "Why be something you're not." It is pretty good quality and it has a couple other shows on it and I have one more tape too. If anyone wants to talk about the Misfits or if you happen to like death metal send me some email at SeanC138@aol.com. I'd love to talk to you!!!! I have a question and I hope you can help me out. I heard that Earth A.D was being re-released and I can't find it anywhere. Can someone please help me??? I love Earth A.D. I know there has been a debate about this but I think it's a great album. Also what's the deal with Mars Attacks. I know this is probably old news to you guys but I heard they were going to be on the soundtrack and I can't find that either. Thank you for all you help and I hope to talk to you all soon!!!!! Later Fiends Sean ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:18:50 -0000 From: John Ward Subject: Nazis, silkscreens Hey fiends, Well I guess the MB is back to Nazism again... I'm not a big Slayer fan, what I do know though is that lots of bands have displayed Swastikas or other Nazi insignias, but have certainly not been white-power. Both the Ramones and the Dead Boys were said to wear Nazi stuff both on stage and on the street. Alledgedly the Dead Boys once really offended a Jewish studio executive with this stuff. Sid was another one with a fascination for the pins and logos. DeeDee Ramone once said in an interview that he collected Nazi relects as a kid living in Germany. Additionally most of this occurred before the advent of the white-power movement. These bands/ individuals did it to rebel and tell the public to fuck off; probably nothing more. Is it the same with Slayer? I'm not one to say, but there does seem to be a precedent for this type of action set by punk bands; albeit a strange one. As far as silkscreening; I put a CG skull on the back of my leather jacket using basic acrylic paint. To get the design right I used a Xerox machine to blow up a good picture of the skull (straight ahead, square, etc.) which I then traced onto a piece of poster board to make a template. I then taped the template onto the jacket and painted. I finished it off by spraying the painted parts with a gloss. It looks pretty good. The advantages of this method are: 1) since I now have the template I can do additional copies for others or touch ups on my jacket. 2) No dicking around with silkscreens. 3) The guy at the art store said that acrylic paint is the best for preserving the leather so it doesn't dry and crack. One tip if you do use this method its best to allow the paint to dry for a couple of days. Even though it may seem dry it can peel off if it comes in contact with something sticky (like a vinyl bus seat). --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 21:58:16 -0500 From: Misfit Subject: Slayer Slayer is not nazi. They may like to talk about the third reich but they dont sing much about nazism. Yes, they talk about the aryan race and shit but that is just there lyrics. If your going to be playing fast, heavy music like slayer, you dont go talking about corny green day shit. Only evil stuff sounds good with speed metal any way. I dont think it really matters what they say, They are still an AWESOME band. -- __ __ /' `\ .oO SuB_ Oo. /' `\ /' `\ /' /' /' \ /'/~~/ /' /' / \ \/'/' //~~~~/ /' /' /' \ /'/' //' /'/' /~~~~/ misfit@netreach.net \ /'/' //' /'/' /'sub_human@hotmail.com `\___/'/________/'/__________/'http://www.netreach.net/~misfit/ ------------------------------ From: "S.D." Subject: I NEED A BOOTLEG OF THE SEATTLE, WASHINGTON SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:48:57 -0800 Does anyone have a copy of the MISFITS show at the DV8 in Seattle, Washington????? I have a couple of items I'll trade for it or I'll pay cash if I have to!!!! until next time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! BELIAL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:09:27 -0500 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Glenn a 90210 fan? While flipping through the Washington CityPaper this morning, I saw that opening bands for the Danzig show at Capitol Ballroom were announced. One of them is Electric Hellfire Club. I know at least J Grimm is a fan of theirs. I think they sound a lot like Thrill Kill. When I saw the other band I laughed my ass off. It's Powerman 5000. They had a cameo on Beverly Hills 90210 last year. The Donna and David characters directed a video for them on the show. They looked like a White Zombie ripoff, but to be honest I haven't heard what they actually sound like. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:49:00 -0500 From: cory Subject: glennsd beliefs hi all if i were to take a guess at whether glenn is a christian or not it would be that he is (a christian). the dark lord that he writes about sooooo much seems to be the christian verson of satan. just a thought, cory ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:54:55 -0500 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Adam West rocks DC Minutes after reading that Adam West was playing at the Black Cat, I managed to get myself on the guestlist. I'll never miss an Adam West show for the rest of my life. Those guys rock! The bass player has an AMAZING sound. I love that bombing bass sound. The vocalist isn't bad either. Although he really should look into getting a distortion box, so his vocals will have that cool 'blackacidevil' sound. (Just kidding Jake) With the exception of a few feedback problems in their first song, the sound was a lot better than the last time I saw them at Asylum, although this set seemed shorter. One downer was that I had to leave before Polyplush Cats came on (another great DC band, as well as friends of Jake). Heads up to the NewYorkers on the bible. Jake mentioned they are definitly playing a show at CBGB's in NYC in February. Keep your eyes and ears open. ------------------------------ From: BBurton163@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:32:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #280 In Angel of Death Slayer singes about Dr. Mengele---> the song is almost a parody they are not singing anything to promote that kind of human atrocity, they are condemning it! ----Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:48:32 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: ANO DOMINI > From: dave naked > Well, I dont want to get into a entire religion thing here but BC and AD > were invented and used to keep time, not only used by Christians. The > calander was started around the time of Christ's demise. BC refers to nope...the calender was not adopted until the 6th or 7th century AD, I forget which...I seem to remember it being under Pope Gregory I ("Gregory the Great" but I'm not too sure anymore). And the reason the dating is incorrect is because obviously there wasn't much record back then of when an insignificant carpenter was born in an insignificant Roman province. Most scholars today believe that Christ was born in about 4 BC, (which means we're now really in 2001) and was executed in AD 28 or 29, during the reign of Tiberius. I think we discussed all this in CG's Operator's Manual a while back. -Batman ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 01:43:42 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #280 Whats up everyone? I know it used to go for like $20, but today I bought a copy of Earth AD on CD for $11 un opened. I already have it in the box set and on tape, but I figured, what the hell. Is this worth anything at all on CD? Also, How much would a 1st pressing of EARTH AD on vinyl run? I saw a copy in a store for $45. Oh yeah, I'm looking for bands to do a CD comp for my label. If your in a band and are willing to shell out $150 for 50 copies of a CD, send me a demo and some band info. All types of music welcomed. Ok thats it. GogmaGod Records Rd 1 Box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, NY 12592 ------------------------------ From: Deadguy599@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:57:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #280 Slayer are not nazis. The lead singer is Chilean. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:53:49 -0500 (EST) From: posmo Subject: There is a dick in EVERY crowd! This is to that AZ asshole, or anyone else that thinks that the new ppl are a minority here on the misfits bible! I wanted to know ONE simple thing and YOU had to be a damn dickhead about it. What the hell is this bible for? To talk about the one and only band that kicks everyone else's ass, THE MISFITS! If it seem's annoying then thats you're tuff shit. If you or anyone else thinks that I am right then back me up, but if anyone else wants to argue this one out Then mail me! There is not need to dirty the bible with anymore CRAP! SO, if you wanna flame me, or talk to me or whatever. Send mail to me HERE at phreq@holli.com. And I will be glad to respond to anyone! I'm out, pHrEq ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 19:39:58 -0800 From: mike inzerillo Subject: Harlock shirts I have an idea. It might fix the problem. Tomorrow, I'll try a shirt but first, I'll stir the paint :=DE don't laugh. ------------------------------ From: Evillive23@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 03:35:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: glenn vs snoop didnt want my first post to be about this but i have heard that glenn kicked the hell out of snoop and two of his bodyguards. ive heard this from 2 people who do not know each other, and said they read it in some magazine (naturally they forgot which) hopefully i helped ease the embarrassment for you adam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:22:18 -0500 From: "Umberto D'Urso" Subject: Walk Among Us - Halloween Bag Does anyone know how many or Halloween Bags were made for the Walk Among Us album, or how rare they are? What do they look like and what are they worth? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Umberto ------------------------------ From: John Matthews <022588M@axe.acadiau.ca> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:08:10 AST4ADT Subject: Misfits Cover Band : Needs Name Some friends of mine and I have started a Misfits cover band. It's a side project to our other bands. We play all Misfits songs but we don't dress up like them or anything. The problem is we need a name. If anybody has any suggestions, e-mail them to me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:27:11 -0500 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: My thoughts on Glenn and EAD OK, try something out. listen to Static Age listen to Walk Among Us listen to Earth AD listen to Initium listen to Danzig I listen to that song on the Less than Zero soundtrak listen to Black Aria listen to blackacidevil What's the point? Glenn has a large variety of musical output. His tastes change quite a bit and from record to record. Personally I think a lot of it has to do with whose producing the record. But the point is, with Glenn doing so many kinds of music, is it totally out of the question that at one point he wanted to do a speed metal record? I don't think so. Glenn likes to 'dabble'. So what? I'm with a lot o' folks on this list who think that EAD is the Misfits worst album. But that doesn't mean anything. It's still Glenn. As far as CG's point about Initium being the next logical step after Walk Among Us, therefore EAD was all Jerry's influence, I say no way. By your logic, Kryst the Konquerer should be the next step after EAD. Granted, I've only had limited exposure to Kryst, but I don't think it sounds like EAD at all. Again, I think EAD just shows Glenn's willingness to try new things with a new producer. ------------------------------ From: "Cheryl M. Walley" Subject: samhain bootleg Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:39:13 -0600 (CST) Does anyone know where to aquire the "Life without a Net" Samhain bootleg, or at least a copy? A friend of mine was looking through the Samhain discography that I gave him and he noticed there were 2 songs on that cd that he'd never heard. E-mail me if someone knows. -itchy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:15:46 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: mailing lists. hey guys, does anyone know of any other cool mailing lists? -steve- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:54:15 -0500 From: dan sylvester Subject: Re: Actor Glenn Attention Fiends: Glenn has been a busy guy lately, his going to be starring in a movie, yep a movie. The movie is called The Prophet II: Ashtown. It's comming out sometime this year. It's produced by Neo Motion Pictures and distributed by Dimension Films. It's directed by Greg Spense (Children Of the Corn IV), written by Matt Greenberg (The Killing Box) and produced by Keith Border and Joel Soisson (Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure). The major characters of the movie are played by Jennifer Beals ("The Wrong Man" segment from the movie Four Rooms), Glenn Danzig, Brittany Murphy (Tai from Clueless), Tim Roth (Pumpkin or Ringo from Pulp Fiction), Christopher Walken (Bobby from Wayne's World II) and Russel Wong (Park from New Jack City). Christopher Walken is the star and plays "The Angel Gabriel." He plays the same role in the first Prophecy movie and is the only reacurring character. I never seen part one but It's a horror, real evil I think(I'm going by the commercials). Cant wait till this one comes out. Dann Sylvester ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:35:31 -0400 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST Friday, January 17 ADAM WEST w/ Listless & Skelp 9:30 Club in DC $3, 9 p.m. Friday, January 24 ADAM WEST w/ Polyplush Cats Cadillac Club (above SHEBA restaurant on 18th Street in Adams Morgan) $3, 10 p.m. Wednesday, February 26 ADAM WEST CBGBs in NYC $5, 11 p.m. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:10:38 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: If the Misfits can go to Czechoslovakia, Danzig can go to Ybor City... Hello fiends... first off, it seems we got some problems with tour schedules for Danzig and the Misfits. I guess that Danzig thought that if the Misfits could got to Czechoslovakia then they could go to Ybor City, Florida. I was very curious when i heard of this tour date. See i have lived in Florida all my live and i have never heard of this place. so after several maps, the phone book and area code listings, plus the internet and virtual maps. NO PLACE IN FLORIDA. and even if it did exist, we would be talking a sink hole near some water. Maybe that is why the Jacksonville date was added after the tickets went on sale. Dave - actually Glenn is given credit with Eerie on the November Coming Fire LP for the Photography, though either that is no excuse if he said he took all the photos, or Metal Edge screwed up. Oh as for Trade school, i don't know about trade schools in NJ but the one here in Miami - Robert Morgan Trade School - i had friends that studied, cooking, graphic design, print making and photography at this place. it was part of high school, where half day was there and the other was at the high school we all went to. Chris, you need to calm down and stop listening to We Are 138. Next ya know we find out you got locked up in a white padded cell and a straight jacket. cause you where trying to get the one hundreth and thirty eighth CD of Earth AD, as they took you away you where mumbling," but CG said AD ment In the Year of Our Lord." Itchy - Wax is another term that is used instead of Vinyl, but they are one and the same. the acetate is suposed to be a plastic derived from acetic acid. if they are still made like that i am not sure. there usually pressed as promos, some are pressed to first here the sound, actually some magazines have them as part of the mag to get you to buy it. in the early 80's there was a british mag called Flexi Pop that each issue featured a band on the cover and had their newest song on the brit term Flexi Disk, our term Acetate. The only band that was worth getting from that mag was Bauhaus, though that issue is very rare. There was a magazine here that used to do that for punk and hardcore bands. i have it some where and i think the DK's were on that. By the way, try and get some sleep, spelling shit wrong is one thing but loosing your mind, well that is a bit to far.;) Mark B., i know that Earth AD and Blackacidevil are very broad across the spectrum here, but both where not what most people would say was Glenn's best work. they are truely a sign of that time. Misfits 101... Not gettting SCREWED I'm happy that everyone is enjoying the Misfits 101 stuff. I just feel that those of you who are just starting out to collect should not get screwed by all those assholes out there. I knew most of them at one point in time, and i can say that several took there shot at ripping me off. The known Misfits collectors who sell records even Misfits and Samhain originals, for the most part from my experience are lowest scum who would sell their own mothers if they could make a buck off the deal. They know what they have, they know the value and they know the value of all the other rare punk and hardcore if trading comes into play. That is why i made sure i knew as much as they did. I would clip out any list of rare punk and hardcore for sale so i could have a guide. when i would by from dealers who knew their stuff and where reputable, i would ask questions about the other records (other than the Misfits) values. I have kept lists of prices on the rarest of each label other than PLAN9, so if i needed to trade or had one of those records i could say, " well you need to give me more than just a Horror Business for a Necros Sex Drive 7"." Some of these guys would just come out and ask for ridiculous amounts of money on a 7" that i knew was not worth that much. No one at that time was going to drop $150 on a black vinyl first press Three Hits From Hell. One guy would ask if you could find Pinball Machines he would trade some of his rare Misfits record. Shit the shipping alone on the Pinball Machine would pay for your three hits. First if you find someone that has Misfits and Samhain originals for sale and its not a record store, ask around, do you know this guy (sorry to say i still have not come across a female that sold Misfits stuff). How long has he been selling stuff, who has ordered and actually got the records from him. i admit i took some chances in the beginning since i did not have anyone to ask about the guys i bought from or traded with. But this is now much different and you all have hundreds of fiends to talk to and ask. also make sure they insure the records when they go out, i had some problems with the post office and my white vinyl Die Die. finally i did get it but only cause Chuck Cleaver had insured it. Also check out the record you got, if they are the grading that the seller said they where. i was really pissed getting a poor condition Beware when i was told it was VG+. If the worst happens and you have been ripped off, bug the crap out of this guy. I'm a little wary about Po box's but if you have an address find someone who can really find this guy. I did threaten Dr. Strange, and a friend of mine called and took some shots. I told him i would wreck his business if i did not get my money back(6 months was a little too long for me). He called back in 5 minutes and i got my money a week later. If this is someone who sells through MRR or Flipside even Goldmine, you can really do major damage to them by placing ads about them ripping off people. Goldmine is more severe punishment, they loose their seal and they are screwed. that takes years of advertising to earn, and we are talking thousands of dollars in the process. well more on not getting screwed and learning about the other side of the punk and hardcore coin next time. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Videos for Trade/Sell And to think, i might end up coloring for a living... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:04:34 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: African American Horror Business??? First something important: Some of you may remember some time back about Patricia GIVING away a BLACK vinyl Horror Business single. I remember posting something to the effect that she gave it away to a kid to start his collection and I mean she GAVE IT TO HIM for free! Well the deal was that *IF* he ever wanted to sell it Patricia would get asked first. Well this kid sold it, sold it to another bible member without even asking Patricia if she wanted it. Without mentioning any names I'd like to say to the person that purchased it that it was promised to EVB should it ever be sold back to Patricia. I know you bought it fair and square but I'm asking you if you want to by chance honor the original intent of the deal by selling it to Patricia or EVB directly. I want to reiterate that this is a black Horror Business, one of 25 copies pressed. This record is the one that was one the juke box at the Mudd Club, moreover, it was a birthday present from Glenn to Patricia. Regardless of it's condition it's worth considerably more than you payed for it and I'm sure that Elizabeth will be glad to pay what it's worth. I'm sure I'll catch hell for this but what the fuck. Someone said recently that Glenn wanted to grow and evolve (in regards to Rick Rubin) Well that's bullshit. Rick Rubin is a businessman, and a damn good one at that. If it weren't for Rick Rubin most of you dopey cocksuckers wouldn't even be here cause there never would have been a DANZIG. He signed Glenn when they were NOBOBDY. Rubin knew a winning combination when he saw one. For you people to endlessly defend Glenn because he wants to grow...Well that's a load of shit, he's not growing, he's branching into genres he knows absolutely nothing about. Personally I think he's trying to cash in on a fad. Glenn is time and again a day late and a dollar short. Glenn is no genius. He saw how big NIN & Marilyn Manson were getting and he wanted a stab at it. He's always been on the tail end of ANY fad as far as music goes. He's no originator, he's a copycat. It used to be he was a rather good copycat but these days his music is hackneyed and boring. It is possible for a band to grow within the genre that they are best at. The transition between Samhain and Danzig I, II, III & IV are perfect examples. Those albums show a clear cut case of a band slowly evolving into a close knit group that really knew what they were doing. Danzig V, however, is in a completely diferrent direction, gone are the melodic tunes that turned 99% of us on to Glenn in the first place. Melody is replaced by synthesis and samples, bells & whistles, with total disregard of musical content. It's sad to see someone like Glenn actually detracting from his voice. Have you ever seen a surreal painting by Van Gogh? Have you ever seen an impressionistic Salvador Dali painting? The answer is NO. I guess they were boring and one dimensional by perfecting their individual genres, right? Bricks Said: >I'm with a lot o' folks on this list who think that EAD is the Misfits >worst album. But that doesn't mean anything. It's still Glenn. Yup no argument here, it's Glenn alright. SHITTY GLENN. But you all missed my point. Bands like Black Flag were getting big out in California and Jerry liked the style, the speed and intensity. Glenn did it either to satisfy Jerry, or possible to capitalize on the hardcore movement at the time. >As far as CG's point about Initium being the next logical step after >Walk Among Us, therefore EAD was all Jerry's influence, I say no way. >By your logic, Kryst the Konquerer should be the next step after EAD. >... I don't think it sounds like EAD at all. Again, I think EAD just shows Bricks are you that dimwitted? well I guess you do work for the government... What I was saying is that EAD was fast and boring like Kryst and Samhain is more like melodic punk 'ala Static age or Walk among us. Sure Samhain and early danzig are heavy but it's still a total departure from EAD. As far as you people talking about Glenn and his religious beliefs... He's stated time and again that he holds no stock in any religions, PERIOD. That my friends includes Satanism, Catholicism, or any other ISM. He flatly denies the existance of any higher power. BTW. for the record I believe Glenn could have known the meaning of AD. Hence the album cover art, possibly a poke at how hypocritical ALL religions are? This however has absolutely nothing to do with musical content, which was my original thesis. The occult EDGE to his albums is simply a marketing ploy to attract you dopey cocksuckers, and that's about the only thing I agree with Jerry on. As far as BlackASSHOLEvil goes, excuse me if I don't play it 50 times in an attempt to like it, or justify it JUST BECAUSE it's Glenn. I listened to it once and decided it wasn't worth further attention. When it comes to music I tend to call a spade a spade. I think it sucks, and I'm not going to force myself to listen to something just because my IDOL put it out. Some of you are posting just that. That's elitist in the worst possible sense of the word, to convince yourselves that it's great and wonderful and NO ONE gets it but you, wonderful evil you. ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ "...your cunt's so big you can drive through a truck and every guy you meet knows you sure been fucked..." - Williamson/Pop Crimson Ghost - othello@magicnet.net -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ From: VADER Subject: Man Whats Up With Glenn Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:18:31 -0500 Ok now I been hearing lots of not so cool shit about Danzig lately...I was wondering if any is true. First I know or think that he's fired his whole band right...did he even get rid of John Christ, how about Eerie Von????? Also I heard that he's doing Techno sh*t or Industrial crap.. what the f*ck is that... Any way I was just wondering because Danzig will be playing in my city in a few weeks. If it is all true then hell I rather stroke myself at home. Because the last time I saw Danzig he was awesome during the Dirty Black Summer Tour and if he's gonna continue to be a cock and do what he's doing he has lost a fan. Also I want to add I saw the Misfits recent tour 3 times already and Micheal Graves f*cking rules. I was very impressed. At first I was kinda sceptical about it..but man I waited all my life to see the Misfits and it still over the 300 shows i been to they where the best. Slayer is in the top ten too...and get a clue people who think slayer are Nazis or Satanic....there are what one song about Joeseph Mengala and they are Nazis.....Misfits wrote songs about aliens are they from outerspace..I dont think so....are they teen agers from mars...no...if they are now they are middle aged men from mars...so what hell....Now on the other hand Mercyful Fate they're satanic...they have said it....so where did this whole Slayer thing arise from anyway. Oh well ....fiend forever vader ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:45:37 -0800 From: tronya brown Subject: Earth AD and collection 2 records First time poster, long time reader. I have this earth ad records i bought for some kid in the neighborhood in like 85 or so. My record is really really THICK. I mean this record is has been thrown around stepped on and still has not a skip on it. Well a friend of mine has the same record but more recent pressing, and its really thin... flexable.. you could fold into a taco.. Someone told me that it was a german release of the record, but i dont think so. thats why i call upon the knowledge of fellow fiends to find out. Just a few weeks ago I bought 2 of the 'collection 2' records. I have the cd so i am not ever going to open them. I noticed that one record has a bar code sticker on the plastic that says carolyn records, and the other one does not have a bar code at all. Is there some meaning behind this? or i just got a record with no bar-code? Anyone know anything about a misfits/septic death 7"? whats it worth? ghoulevening all... ZippyThePinhead http://www.eden.com/~zippy more evil per ounce.. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:36:46 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Off topic: Painting your leather jacket. On the subject of painting leather jackets. I used to do this a lot. Acrylic paint is indeed what you want to use. Not so much to "let the leather breathe" -- cuz it sure as shit won't do that -- but because it's flexible. It dries into plastic, basically. (Try this... glob some acrylic paint onto a piece of plastic like a margarine lid, and then peel it off a few days later.) Acrylics will stick to most anything, they dry fast, they're easy to clean up (with soap and water) and when they dry they're waterproof! Artists oil paints are no good to use because they don't really ever dry (I'll spare you the art materials lesson). As soon as they start getting dry, they'll start cracking and maybe flaking, when they're on a leather jacket you're wearing around. I did it though, back before I knew anything! And it worked too -- cuz once the oil paints got dry to the touch, I painted over them with a layer of Clear Gloss Acrylic Varnish. This made a sandwich out of the leather and the varnish, with the oil paint held in place in between. It was real shiny-looking, but I just can't get the effect out of acrylics that I can get with oils sometimes. Your only other real choice is enamel paints. These are like Testors model paints or the paint in paint markers. This will work, but they dry really hard and inflexible, so once again they'll crack and chip a lot. With acrylic paints, don't go for the tubes. Get the stuff in jars. The stuff in the tubes is full of thickening agents, so the color won't be as vibrant, the paint won't go on as flat, and it won't cover the black leather as well. Also, tube paint is thicker; the thicker you pile the paint on to the leather, the more likely it is to crack (though the cracks aren't as severe as with enamel paints -- more like "splits"). You can thin acrylic paints with water, but that makes the paint layer weaker overall, so you want to avoid that. Make sure you look on the jars of paint to see if the color is "opaque" or not. If it's not, you'll want to paint the jacket with white first, and then paint your other color on top of that. If you screw up, don't be afraid to make corrections with black acrylic. I find that when it dries, a small spot of matte black is almost invisible on leather. Once you're done, you shouldn't have to let the acrylics dry longer than overnight. Once they're dry to the touch (you can run your hand over them) they're pretty much completely dry, unlike oils. They WILL stick to stuff... I've had to peel my back off of plenty of vinyl chairs -- but I've never seen any damage to the painting from that. Acrylics are pretty tough. But whether it sticks to vinyl is not a test of whether the paint is dry -- it will pretty much do that forever, maybe until there's enough dust on top of the painting to prevent it. And that's your punk rock lesson for the day! Now you can look the part. (Hessians take note also.) NEIL ------------------------------ From: rskogsta@wvu.edu Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:37:03 -0500 i really dig SAMHAIN and think that all three of the Danzig bands are pretty cool. i think it sucks that everyone insists upon comparing these three very different bands from three very different era's to one another. danzig, samhain and the misfits all kick ass for different reasons. at different times i have a different favorite, but i would never say one is better thatn the other. that's a really shitty thing to do to all of the people involved in any of those bands. it's okay to have a preference, but give the "misfits-are-better-than-samhain-is-better-than-danzig shit" a rest. i think its kind of stupid. i am interested in findig VHS copies of SAMHAIN or MISFITS shows. i already have the WHY BE SOMETHING YOUR NOT show on video, although my copy is "X" generation and thus not of the best quality. if you have something, e-mail me and we'll work out a deal. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:00:42 -0400 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST a big thanks to tarry c. for the glowing review of our black cat gig. now i just gotta find a distortion box to run my vocals through so i can be cool and industrial. hey kids, come see ADAM WEST! ADAM WEST w/ Listless & Skelp Friday, January 17 9:30 Club in DC 9 p.m., $3 ADAM WEST w/ Polyplush Cats Friday, January 24 Cadillac Club in DC (above SHEBA restaurant on 18th Street in Adams Morgan) 10 p.m., $3 ADAM WEST Wednesday, February 26 CBGBs in New York City 10 p.m., $5 -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 15:56:38 EST Subject: Ybor City Tes777@bridge.net wrote on 01/10 about Ybor City. It is a strip of bars and clubs on the outskirts of Tampa. It's not an actual city (I don't think anyway...). Question about Danzig's tour...Anyone catch it yet? How is the overall sound/style? My gut tells me that they'll play really hard and fast to sort of compete with the new Misfits style. Any comments? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 16:22 EST From: Art Zawodny >From: posmo >Subject: There is a dick in EVERY crowd! > This is to that AZ asshole, or anyone else that thinks that the new >ppl are a minority here on the misfits bible! > > I wanted to know ONE simple thing and YOU had to be a damn dickhead >about it. What the hell is this bible for? To talk about the one and only >band that kicks everyone else's ass, THE MISFITS! If it seem's annoying >then thats you're tuff shit. > If you or anyone else thinks that I am right then back me up, but if >anyone else wants to argue this one out Then mail me! There is not need to >dirty the bible with anymore CRAP! First of all fuck face, if you cant take a joke, get your fucking dumb ass back to whatever Internet shit hole you climbed out of. If you want to know the meaning of We Are 138 go to the fucking web page and look it up. Thats the reason its there, so we dont have to spend each week talking about the same goddamn subjects over and over and over and over and over. Mark busts his ass to keep probably the biggest compilation of Misfits info this side of Glenn's brain on the 'net for our reference, the least you could do is read it. We dont feel like discussing what 138 means week in and week out for every new fiend that comes on here. We also dont want to hear about how you saw Saved By the Bell and saw the Crimson Ghost, cause that shit is been fucking beat to death too. Listen to the song asshole, what the fuck do you think it means???? If you dont know, call Glenn Danzig and ask him. Its 1-900-666-GLENN. Ask for Slim Whitman Let me guess, next you want to know the Misfits real names and who the hell Bobby Steele is. I'm dirtying the bible with this crap cause you flamed me in public, the least I can do is the same to you. You wanna keep it private, mail me in private. I aint slaggin new members, we were all one once, but dont come here expecting us to answer everyones questions every week, this aint 411. everyones favorite asshole ... .AZ and yea, I think Glenn meant to call Earth AD "Earth AZ" after me, but realized he didnt even know I was alive. ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:16:34 +0000 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #280 >> From: PRH >> I'd really like everyone to know: I never took a yardstick too him >> or anything but I just dont think of Glenn as all that short. 5'5" >> maybe,at the Bret said: >one mag said he was 5'6". When i was standing next to him getting a >photo taken he wasn't noticeably any higher than i was. and i ain't >tall.(5'4") i haven't got a copy of the photo yet though... I heard he was 5'2" ... CHaragan said: >WHO HAS EARTH A.D. G TABS. REALLY INTERESTED!!! CHaragan @ aol.com. >Please write. Just take a few minutes and FIGURE THEM OUT. It's nothing too tough. but if you do need it, (say it everyone!) CHECK THE WEB PAGE!!! "I strut right by with my tail in the air." ------------------------------ From: lithium@cxo.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:01:38 -0500 Subject: Hey Does anyone where i can find some misfit pins/stickers, or did they stop making them? -=-=Sent via CONNECTions BBS. Contact Info below=-=- telnet://bbs.cxo.com (208.132.79.2) http://www.cxo.com/ Wichita, KS (316) 682-7346 Voice: (316) 682-5838 ------------------------------ From: migraines@juno.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:53:52 PST Subject: Racer Ten : Racer Ten's video dilemma Hey! How's it going? I've got a favour to ask of you. Racer Ten has made a video (it cost us a whopping $350). We submitted it to MuchMusic and they refused to play it because it wasn't good enough quality. We think that's a crock, and we want to let MuchMusic know that people would like to see our video. So, here's the favour: please email MuchMusic (rsvp@muchmusic.com -or- muchmail@muchmusic.com) and tell them that you heard they received a Racer Ten video and that you want them to play it. I would appreciate it very much if you would do this for us. Also, it would be great if you could get any or all of your friends to do the same. :-) Thanks a lot, Sean Racer Ten ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:42:34 PST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #281 From: misfit6x3@juno.com (Just some Fiend) for the last time, I WILL BE AT THE DANZIG SHOW JAN 15 IN ATLANTA!! Email me if anyone is gonna be there. I want to meet some people off this thing. later JuStIn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:39:31 -0800 From: Joe Franke Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #281 the reason Powerman 5000 seems like White Zombie is because it is Rob Zombie's brother in the band. -- Joe Franke "trivia..." jfranke@slip.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 10:51:51 +0000 (GMT) From: md935192 Subject: flexi/acetate Yeah, flexi's or acetates were quite popular over here (about 10 years ago!) and some are quite rare and collectable. They were usually given free with music papers or magazines and the sound quality was stunningly abysmal. Some UK bands (the Sisters) included them with singles as limited runs and others (James Rays Gangwar for example) would hand them out at rare live shows. These little items can fetch an extortionate price if you can track them down. In the record pressing business though, I thought the term acetate referred to something else. After the masters had been cut, and before a test print in vinyl don't they normally do a print in really soft plastic just to test the grooves?? If these things get played more than about twice they die, so although collectable...not listenable. Just my tuppence (is that two cents worth?) U.J. ------------------------------ From: KWard93399@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 06:23:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: The last four bibles Greetings, fiends. Okay, since we have newbies flaming us for not telling them...I'll be nice and tell them. Read the FAQ! We Are 138 is about the George Lucas film, "THX 1138", where we simply become numbers and androids. Not to name names, but the guy that flames AZ, he didn't insult you. It's just a running joke among fiends here about the number 138 and the Saved by the Bell episode. And it is improper to post a flame where you ask people not to post flames. : ) As far as the name of the new LP, what about "Evil Never Dies" or "The Second Coming" or make cataloging the LP very difficult and just call it "The Misfits". Since the "Misfits" LP is listed as "Collection I" everywhere, that is possible. As far as the Slayer thing, please stop! I hate the band, they have nothing to do with The Misfits, and I think their guitarist, Jeff Hanneman (sic?), is Jewish. Guess that kinda puts that one out. Hey, FEAR were considered a Nazi band for a decade or more. Their guitarist is African-American and their drummer is Hispanic so I guess that's out of the question. Anyway, I counted the word Slayer as many as The Misfits last ish, so it's a bit out of hand. L8R fiends. Ken "I was a teenage dinosaur, stoned and obsolete I didn't get fucked and I didn't get kissed I got so fucking pissed, using my hand for an ashtray..." - Iggy Pop "Repo Man" ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 08:40:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: PM5K Someone last issue mentioned that Powerman 5000 was one of the opening bands for Danzig on the upcoming tour and how they looked like a White Zombie rip-off. Spider, the lead singer, is Rob Zombie's brother. And Powerman 5000 played at one of the same Ozzy shows that Glenn did. So that plus Glenn's friendship with Rob probably led to them being on the tour. The two groups (White Zombie and Powerman 5000) don't sound all that similar. Powerman 5000 has sort of a rap/metal sound to it, in a similar way Rage Against the Machine does. And that's not how I'd describe White Zombie. Perhaps the similarity is due to a shared childhood reading comics, watching horror movies, etc. Who knows ... On to another item, I don't if this has been posted or not yet (if it has, my apologies), but John Christ (advertised as "formerly of Danzig) has a track called "One Song" on Guitar World's "Smell the Fuzz: Guitars that Rule the World, Vol. 2". It's a pretty good song. Other tracks are done by Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins, J. of White Zombie, and Ace Frehley. A record store near me had it hidden in the compilation section. Also, looking through a multimedia file promoting "The Crow" that I hadn't looked through in a while, James O'Barr, the creator/artist/writer, said that among the artists he listened to that influenced him when he first started the comic were the Misfits. I had heard about his other influences like Joy Division, Bauhaus, or Nick Cave but I never heard him talk of the Misfits before. Anyway, I just thought it was cool because I'm such a fan of his comic ... - BILE666. P.S. -- To "Just Another Fiend", please e-mail me about the Death Dealer thing. I forgot all about it ... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:06:42 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Earth AD CD and Adam West Since a few people brought it up in the last bible - Earth AD on CD is available from cdconnection.com for like 10 or 11 bucks. Jake - you guys can play all over DC and New York - why don't you ever come to Baltimore??? I'm sure you guys could go over really well with the crowd at Memory Lane. For all you collectors of punk in general - I am desperately looking for the 2 vinyl 7-inch singles put out by D Generation in 1993. Jake is being stingy with his (although I appreciate the copies dude). If anyone has them and would part with them - let me know. =============================================================================== Stephen Gorny [] In California, the people voted to do away Department of Psychology [] with racial preferences in hiring and University of MD Baltimore County[] school admissions and to legalize the use 5401 Wilkens Avenue [] of marijuana for medicinal purposes. Baltimore, MD 21228-5398 [] Members of the federal government are [] vowing to fight these referendums. sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu [] It's a good thing that we have such [] officials in Washington - otherwise, the [] laws of this country might be determined by [] its citizens =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:39:06 -0800 From: mike inzerillo Subject: Silksreening and Earth A D....i win. I stirred the paint frantically and it did nothing. The paint I got is shit. it's called Versatex. I called many places, they don't have SPEEDBALL, which works perfect. One place said they had black and orange, no white, and couldn't order more. I want to make shirts, Everybody go to your art and craft stores and look. Please :) Speedball white TEXTILE pait. it should be about 4 bucks. Whoever finds me paint gets a free shirt. Oh, I'm screening on cotton shirts, not leather; chuh. Some'ya are saying that Earth AD was wrong because Glenn screamed instead of singing. Like Demonomania and Wolf's Blood. You say it doesn't showcase his voice. Well...Listen to some of the songs on the Unholy Passion EP. He's just SCREAMING along to annoying repetitive guitar noises. HA...and that's one to grow on. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 20:27:36 +0000 From: sean barron Subject: earth a.d. if your a rochester ny fiend and want the earth ad. without buying the box set both the house of guitars and lakeshore record exchange have 1 copy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 15:04:51 -0500 From: Chris Ferrell Subject: Swastikas and Ybor city Hail Fiends! j/k Just a note on swastikas... They were origionally an ancient pagan symbol for life and renewal but they pointed clockwise like this... -----| | | | |-----|-----| | | | |----- It doesn't matter how you turn it or rotate it 45 degrees, If the bends in the arms are clockwise - it's the pagan symbol. On the other hand, Hitler got a hold of it and gave it a 180. It then ended up looking like this... | |----- | | |-----|-----| | | -----| | And all the sudden it's a symbol for the third Reich. Anyway, here's a thought for ya about the great leaders of the world - Napolean talked about a N.W.O. and took over Europe. Hitler talked about a N.W.O. and ended up starting a few World Wars. Clinton has talked about a N.W.O.... And finally a geography lesson... Ybor City is a part of Tampa, Florida. It is located just south and has it's own off-ramps, so I guess this makes it a separate city from Tampa but most people consider them one and the same. Thus endeth the lesson... j/k -Chris Ferrell rancor@sunline.net LastCaress on the IRC (DALnet) P.S. - Sorry I drew swastikas in the Bible, but it's informative... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:43:40 -0500 From: marcia disilvestro Subject: Die, Die My Darling Fiends I am looking for a Die, Die My Darling 12" but I dont want to get ripped off if anyone wants to trade or sell or tell me how much they should be bought for please write me at h4f6x4rm@coastalnet.com Adam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:09:11 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Flemming Subject: 138 Performing in SF San Francisco's misfits-samhain-danzig Tribute Band 138 will be playing Tuesday January 14th at 9:45 at Club Boomerang located on Haight Street at the end of Haight near Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. Tell a friend and tell your friend's friends to come for the experience. --138 For more information check out: http://www.ced.berkeley.edu/~rflemmin/138 ------------------------------ From: "Cheryl M. Walley" Subject: things Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:36:00 -0600 (CST) Here's some assorted questions asked to me by Sir Timbo, which in turn I'm asking to all of you out there in bible land. 1. Does anyone know what happened to Dez Cadena from Black Flag? 2. Can anyone get any official releases from the Necros? 3. Which is worse: The new Misfits touring with Anthrax and Cannibal Corpse, or the new Danzig touring with Lords of Acid? Also, does anyone have or can anyone get anything from the following bands: (vinyl or CD) The Adolescents Sloppy Seconds (don't laugh) Green Day bootlegs T.S.O.L. (Jack Grisham) and/or Tender Fury The Germs The Huns Or anything else along the same lines. Thanks. -itchy It may be Sunday, but there 'aint no fucking church around here!"-the Misfits (maybe not an exact quote, but you get the picture) ------------------------------ From: Blagripper@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:03:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: finally!!! you guys finally did it!!! man it took 2 months to do it!!!! everyone stand up and give your self a hand!!!! So i heard samhain was getting back together. :)have a nice day! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:53:56 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Wilson Subject: Blag Jesus A.D. I read in Metal Mag that after his altercation with Glenn, Def Leppard is making Snoop an honorary member. Their first single, as "Snoop Leppard," is called "Pour Some Chronic on Me," and will be in stores Feb. 29, as part of an "I kicked Glenn's Ass" compilation. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 19:15:44 -0600 From: "Adrock@pipeline.com" Subject: Videos for Trade/Sell Below is a list of videos I trade and sell. All videos are $12 except for The Beastie Boys Tv tapes which are $14. The price includes first class postage and all that. As soon as I recieve your money order the tapes are sent that day providing you let me know in advance that the money order is on its way. It takes between 2-4 days for the tapes to arrive at your house depending on your location. My email is Adrock@pipeline.com MISFITS Tape1=Why Be Something Your Not 81 Tape2=Coney Island Halloween 95 Tape3=Misfits Compilation of 3 Live shows plus BRAIN EATERS VIDEO Tape4=Stone Pony 96 Tape5=Orlando 96 DANZIG Tape1=Allentown,PA 94 Tape2=Sheffield,England 88 Tape3=Syracuse 94 Tape4=Middletown,NY 94 Tape5=Lucifuge Video SAMHAIN Tape1=LAST SHOW EVER FROM RITZ PLUS MISFITS SKULLS AND HALLOWEEN VIDEOS BEASTIE BOYS Tape1=The following is from 1987,performances on In person from the Pallace,Host on Showtime at the apollo,Entertainment tonight,performance and footage from Tougher Than Leather,performance from American Bandstand,From 1985 performance on Krush Groove,promo footage from Lost Angels89,Hey Ladies,Shadrach and Shake your Rump World Premiere89,Guest host on yo mtv raps for a week89,mtv news89,mtv promo89,another mtv promo89,Guest host on Yo mtv Raps90,Mtv news89,clip from Pump Up The Volume90,clip from A kiss Before Dying91,Guest host on Yo mtv raps91,Interview on mtv news92,Pass the Mic world premiere92,Performance on Soul Train89,Root Down World Premiere Video. Tape2=Interview with Adam Horowitz on Most wanted92,mtv news92,Adrock on The Big Picture92,Host on Pump it up92,clip of Magic Johnson Benefit92,Mtv interview92,So whatcha want world premiere and Interview92,performance and interview on Hangn with mtv92,Interview on Mtv Sports92,Stage interview on Hangn With Mtv92,appearance on Like We Care92,appearance on House of Style92,promo for So whatcha want92,Mtv news92,Host on Yo mtv raps92,performance on Arsenio Hall92 with Cypress Hill,Mtv news clip of seattle radio show92,guest host on Hangn with mtv92,Jimmy James world Premiere92,Host of Rap City92,So whatcha want Remix video92,performance on late night with Letterman92,Beasties meeting fans in San Francisco92,clip on Check Your head success92,Interview on boxtalk with Cypress Hill 1992. Tape3=Mtv promo87,Beastie contest clip87,American Music Awards87,Mtv promo87,Host on Mtv during NY snow87,Mtv interview87,Mtv promo87,clip on Beastie Controversy87,Beasties at Mtv Spring Break87,clips from Mtv contest87,Joan Rivers interview and performance87,Boxtalk interview92,Close up version of Gratitude video93,Mtv interview87,Profile on ABC In Concert92,Time for Livin video92,Gratitude video93,interview on Much Music [Canada]92,Interview on Rapido[Europe]92,Interview and performance on Mtv Europe92,Guest host on Wanted[Europe]92,Interview on Much Music92, Tv Tape4=Mike D. interview at pre Mtv Award show,Sure Shot World Premiere Video,Interview explaining making Ill comm.,Mtv Beastie Buzz clip Commercial,Mike D/Mtv commercial,Nathanial Hornblower disrupting mtv awards,Beastie Boys performance on mtv awards94,Guest host/interviewed on Supe Rock,Clip of beasties in Billboard Top 10,Interview on Tibet,Another Tibet interview with bboys,Part of Hurricane/Beastie video Stickem Up,History of Rock n Roll Features the Beasties,Rubin and Simmons in interview,Ill Comm.Commercial,Adrock,Mike d,and Sir Stewart host 120 min. before the release of Ill comm.,Mtv inside Grand Royal studios,Performance on David Letterman94,Hurricane Elbow Room video,Adrock shopping for Ione on House of Style,A fuzzy performance of the Beasties on Saturday Night Live,Mike D. in The Legend of Dolemite!!! TAPE 5 A different tape of Tv Appearences that I didnt make Mtv new year's rock and roll Ball 87..live No Sleep Till Brooklyn and fight for your Right, Interview on NBC Live at Five 87, Soul Train 87, Daytona beach Spring Break 87, Beastie Mating Game MTV 87, Time for LIVIN, French TV interviews and live footage, Host on ABC in concert 92, Beavis and Butthead watch So whatcha Want, Stickem UP video, beavis And Butthead watch Graditude, No alternative promo, MTV news clip on Grand Royal Magazine, Interview on Rap City 92, Beck and Mike D on 120 minutes 94, Clip on Board AID, Clip on the Peltier benefit 94, MTV news clip 94, MTV news Clip on Lollapalooza 94, MTV DAily DOse interview, Buzz Clip AD, Sabotage world premier, 2 promos for Ill Communication, MTV news interview and tour of Grand Royal and GSON studios 94, Guest host on 120 minutes 94. LIVE SHOWS!!!!!!!!!! Tape4=Miami,Floridia92 Tape5=London,England92 Tape6=Los Angeles,California92 FEATURES CYPRESS HILL IN SO WHATCHA Tape7=San Francisco,California92 FEATURES CYPRESS HILL IN SO WHATCHA Tape8=Las Vegas,Nevada94 Tape9=Washington D.C.94 Tape10=Oakland,California95 Tape11=Japan 1994 Tape12=New York 1994 FEATURES FLAVOR FLAV IN SO WHATCHA WANT Tape13=New York 1995 Tape14=Los Angeles,California94 "This was a benefit show.They do the set in UPS uniforms.It is a short all rap set. Tape15=Reading 92 Tape16=San Jose 92 Tape17=Quasar Tahoe 96 Tape18=Japan 96 Tape19=Free Tibet 96 FEATURES BIZ MARKIE, AND Q-TIP FROM TRIBE CALLED QUEST Tape20=San Diego 95 Tape21=Toronto 95 OTHER TAPES AVAILIBLE BEATLES Tape1=Tokyo Tape2=Shea Stadium Tape3=Washington DC DEICIDE Tape1=Tampa 92 HOUSE OF PAIN Tape1=Philly 92 (With Son Doobie of FunkDoobiest} KORN Tape1=Dallas 95 RANCID Tape1=Ft.Worth 92/with clips of Glasco England added BAD BRAINS Tape1=OAKLAND 95 GG ALLEN Tape1=10 Minute show.Does 3 songs before cops bust in and cut the show. Tape2=Live and Pissed in San Fransico Tape3=HATED DOCUMENTARY EAZY-E TAPE1=ETERNAL-E-5150,Collection of videos and interviews PANTERA Tape1=Montreal,FEATURES WHAT MTV CALLED RACIST STATEMENTS RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE Tape1=96 Last song Cut INSIDE OUT (Zack from Rage first band) Tape1=Boston 90 VOD=NYC 95 CIV Tape1=Cleveland 95 SICK OF IT ALL Tape1=NYC 95 BOUNCING SOULS Tape1=NYC 95 BLACK FLAG Tape1=Target Video 83 CONFRONT Tape1=Cleveland 89 AGNOSTIC FRONT Tape1=Palladium,NYC 92 SHELTER Tape1=PHILLY,PA 91 WARZONE TAPE1=CBGB'S 86 OPERATION IVY Tape1=St.Louis 88 GWAR Tape1=Houston,Tx 95 MOTLEY CRUE Tape1= Quebec City.84 Shout AT The DeviL Tour *My Boot list,Download "Im Down",part of "Scenario" and Eazy-E from Howard Stern and more from my web page http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/hills/8849 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:00:55 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: And to think, i might end up coloring for a living... Hello Fiends... Oh wait, am i in the right place? you would think the way the last bible started out we where members of the slayer's list. I want to thank Patricia and Bobby, who where the only people who knew about Ybor City. Funny thing you live in the same state for almost 30 years and you never here of this city. By the way Patricia Liberty City is on the map, and so is Carol City. They don't want tourists to end up there by mistake, it might be their last. PtrMlr - actually there is a second series of Crimson Ghost about a crystal skull, though that one is hard to find. About the silkscreen thing - if you are having problems all you have to do is go to an art supply store, Pearl is in most of the major cities and some small ones. There are kits that come with everything you need, or the ink is a lot like printers ink so you could use that. there is a way of making a screen without the camera equipment or chemicals. there is a special film that you aply to the silk and you etch it out with a art knife (see i didn't use the X word ;) ) cfarrell- First press black vinyl Earth AD is $10 - 20 max. That place you saw it for $45 is a rip. shit i paid $35 for my purple and red vinyl Earth AD. The Halloween bag - well the number pressed, Hey Mark, you would know this, price $10. it came out with the newer release of WAU back in 1990. though i know Mark has all the dirt on that. Even though its not some really rare piece from the day, i framed mine and hung it on my wall. Misfits 101 - Not being SCREWED Part 2... well last time we talked about how to start out and where to go. Checking out the people you buy from. Well first thing is check out the local non chain record stores in you area, you might find some rare goodies that either can be added to your collection directly or used as trading material for Misfits stuff. Also record conventions. theses are great to go to, the ones in Miami sucked as far as Misfits stuff but i could always find trading pieces. I have a feeling that most of you who live in other states like NY, NJ, and CA might find some better stuff. Plus i have discussed this with some of the traders i deal with, they bring records with them to use in deal they make at the shows. you might not have $60 - 150 in cash on had to by a Misfits original but with a little cash a some good records you have a good chance of going home with a Misfits original. Also keep with you a list of what you are after at the show, it makes things very easy to locate and to remember when you go dealer to dealer. Plus keep you list of price values with you so if the prices are not at the top of you mind they are at hand and you will not likely get ripped off at the show. If a dealer gives you a price its not etched in stone, this is just as if you where at a flea market, you can bargan with these guys too. if you start of with a stupid low price you will bargan to what would be reasonable. The big step, you have trading material now what, well first contact some of the people who have ads in MMR or Flipside, practice on trades with them. after a while you can take your own ads out, trade straight, sell or auction for the money to pay for your Misfits records you want. But you really need to do a couple of good trades so you don't end up with the short end of the stick when you advertise and bring them to you. Start off with people in the states, Europeans and the Japanese can give you a hard time and a real run for your money if you have not done the trading thing. They play hard and i know even with really experienced traders have had rough times or put into situations that needed bailing out. Oh yeah, you can trade with the local record stores, you see a Misfits piece they would take some other rare hardcore or punk piece if you have for trade. Though its back to knowing all the other Music. You can't collect one band the way i have collected all these years without knowing the records from the other bands in and out. Most traders and sellers know the labels that will get them the money they need or used for trade. TOUCH AND GO, DISCORD, REVELATION, SST(ORIGINALS NO REPRESSES), SUDDEN DEATH, QUINTESSENCE, DANGERHOUSE, TAANG, POSHBOY, etc. then you remember goofy stuff, like Agent Orange's first 7" is very valuable since they put it out on their own, no known label. That the guy who wants to trade his Three hits does not want a 7" that was a common press on Poshboy records. It's lots of little things that you start to learn and make it even harder for some asshole to come along and rip you off. There was a guy who would have given me a Horror Business if i handed over on of 8 7" records off his list, each record on his list was worth 3 - 5 copies of Horror Business. What happens to the poor full who doesn't know his or her other records than the Misfits ;)!!! Well next time we start to learn more about the other records and what to look for. They might just mean a color vinyl hybrid for your collection, at least it did and still does for me. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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YAddaYaDDAYADDA Re: Misfits Bible, #282 Re: Misfits Bible, #282 Re: Misfits Bible, #282 Glenn sucks!!! still for sale Crimson crap/ Rochester tape leather paint gwar Glenn bashing, or the painful truth? blackacidevil tour cell block 138 Seattle, EVB DANZIG V and other things Capt Harlock shirts, music videos, and Septic Death vinyl for sale Misfits Patches Texas Is The Reason Another Misfits Sighting... This is the true HORROR BUSINESS... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 1997 00:04:28 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama > From: Crimson Ghost > absolutely nothing about. Personally I think he's trying to cash in on a > fad. Glenn is time and again a day late and a dollar short. Glenn is no > genius. He saw how big NIN & Marilyn Manson were getting and he wanted a well, CG, I suppose you're always going to believe the worst of Glenn, and I'm always going to be the one of those people who doesn't. But for the record, Glenn hase ben saying for at least the last 2-3 years that he likes NIN, (as well as other "industrial" bands like Godflesh) and as for Marilyn Manson, he took them on the road on the 2nd leg of the Danzig 4p tour in 1995, WELL before they became a mega-success. And anyway, Danzig 5 was completed a year before it was released (10/29/96) -- which was the very same day that Antichrist Superstar came out --what, do you think Glenn ran to the record store in the morning, bought their album, copied it, and had Danzig 5 done and in the stores by noon? > a close knit group that really knew what they were doing. Danzig V, however, > is in a completely diferrent direction, gone are the melodic tunes that > turned 99% of us on to Glenn in the first place. Melody is replaced by > synthesis and samples, bells & whistles, with total disregard of musical nope. Danzig 5 = Samhain. Listen to the songs on 5, regardless of whatever effects and noises have been ADDED, and you'll discover that the songs are the same as any Danzig songs. Look at the lyric book, and the way the verses are arranged, the rhyme schemes, or whatever -- it's all Danzig. > As far as you people talking about Glenn and his religious beliefs... He's > stated time and again that he holds no stock in any religions, PERIOD. That > my friends includes Satanism, Catholicism, or any other ISM. He flatly > denies the existance of any higher power. BTW. for the record I believe QUESTION: "Do you believe in God?" GLENN DANZIG: "Do I believe in God? Yeah, I believe in God. I don't believe in God as...uh...some old guy with a beard or anyting like that, but, as a power...yeah" > possibly a poke at how hypocritical ALL religions are? This however has > absolutely nothing to do with musical content, which was my original thesis. > The occult EDGE to his albums is simply a marketing ploy to attract you > dopey cocksuckers, and that's about the only thing I agree with Jerry on. you obviously haven't seen pictures of his house. > As far as BlackASSHOLEvil goes, excuse me if I don't play it 50 times in an > attempt to like it, or justify it JUST BECAUSE it's Glenn. I listened to it I don't remember anyone saying that. You know, it's possible to like something only a little, and to like it progressively more with each listening. > From: VADER > First I know or think that he's fired his whole band right...did he even > get rid ofJohn Christ, how about Eerie Von????? Also I heard that he's doing Techno > sh*t or Industrial crap.. what the f*ck is that... no, they resigned from the band. He's doing DANZIG, though slightly different than before. If you liked Danzig live before, you will like it now. I have seen 2 shows so far with the new lineup/style/whatever and the stage show is just as good as the original. BTW, are you going to give The Undertaker the "Vader Bomb" or the "Moon-sault" at the Royal Rumble? > From: Chris Ferrell > thought for ya about the great leaders of the world - Napolean talked > about a N.W.O. and took over Europe. Hitler talked about a N.W.O. and > ended up starting a few World Wars. Clinton has talked about a N.W.O.... actually I think it was Bush who said that. But more important than your stupid American politics is the fact that Hollywood Hogan is the leader of *THE* New World Order, who are, as we speak, in the process of taking over and utterly destroying Ted Turner's pitifully-inferior-to-the-WWF promotion, World Championship Wrestling. > From: Geoff Wilson > I read in Metal Mag that after his altercation with Glenn, Def > Leppard is making Snoop an honorary member. Their first single, as "Snoop > Leppard," is called "Pour Some Chronic on Me," and will be in stores Feb. > 29, as part of an "I kicked Glenn's Ass" compilation. no, their actual name will be "Def Dogg" -you must be sure that the girl is pure for the funky cold medina ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:49:47 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Glenn and the Big Bearded Cheese CG, in the first Danzig home video Glenn was asked if he believed in God. He said that he did not believe in some kind of magical being, but he did believe in God as a kind of universal power. When further asked if he believed in the Devil, he replied that if you believe in God then you must also believe in the Devil. (Rather Zoroastrian, isn't he?) I personally believe that whatever comes out of Glenn's mouth is usually whatever he feels like saying at the given moment. NEIL ------------------------------ From: "m.s.k" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #282 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:41:13 -0500 (EST) > From: tronya brown > Subject: Earth AD and collection 2 records > > I have this earth ad records i bought for some kid in the neighborhood > in like 85 or so. My record is really really THICK. I mean this record > is has been thrown around stepped on and still has not a skip on it. > Well a friend of mine has the same record but more recent pressing, and > its really thin... flexable.. you could fold into a taco.. Someone told > me that it was a german release of the record, but i dont think so. > thats why i call upon the knowledge of fellow fiends to find out. The easiest way to determine differences would be to compare the sleeves. Are they different in any way? There have been several different presses of the Earth AD album, as well as the German Wolfs Blood/Earth AD album. > Just a few weeks ago I bought 2 of the 'collection 2' records. I have > the cd so i am not ever going to open them. I noticed that one record > has a bar code sticker on the plastic that says carolyn records, > and the other one does not have a bar code at all. Is there some meaning > behind this? or i just got a record with no bar-code? Black vinyl copies are available with or without the bar code sticker, so that doesn't really tell you much. Your best bet would be to open the the thing. Caroline pressed 10,000 colored (clear, red, green) vinyl copies in November of '95 and started doing black vinyl copies in April of '96. > Anyone know anything about a misfits/septic death 7"? whats it worth? There's an old Misfits / Septic Death bootleg 7" with some Misfits Earth AD demos on one side, worth $0 just like any other bootleg. > From: md935192 > Subject: flexi/acetate > > Yeah, flexi's or acetates were quite popular over here (about 10 years > ago!) and some are quite rare and collectable. They were usually given > free with music papers or magazines and the sound quality was stunningly > abysmal. That's a flexi. An acetate is a metal plate with a softer vinyl covering that is used to test the grooves of a vinyl press. It's unusual to find them sold as collectables, although they are pretty much essential for pressing a record. With each playing, they lose a little bit of quality. > From: tes777 > The Halloween bag - well the number pressed, Hey Mark, you would know this, > price $10. it came out with the newer release of WAU back in 1990. though > i know Mark has all the dirt on that. Even though its not some really rare > piece from the day, i framed mine and hung it on my wall. Well, I have never been able to find official numbers on this weird item, but I know that MusicMan Records in NJ had lots of them available for $10 when I was there 2 years ago. At that point, they were 6 years old, so it's probably safe to assume there were lots of them made. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:05:26 -0500 From: Misanthrope Subject: BEWARE VINYL i came across a Misfits Beware 7" vinyl it has a plain red center....i've only heard of it being a 12" vinyl....does anyone have any answers for this?....and know if it is worth anything? ------------------------------ From: punkin Subject: Danzig preview Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:31:13 +0000 For everyone's amusement, a verbatim copy of the preview written in advance of Glenny-boy's show here in Birmingham on Tuesday (from Black and White) "Having missed the Misfits the first time around, when I first saw Danzig about five years ago and couldn't imagine why everyone had such reverence for a guy that looked like a gothic trainer on steroids. Then I heard the Misfits and wondered how fans of such a cool outfit could tolerate the parody that Mr. Danzig had so obviously become." See you 'Ham fiends at 5 Points! punkin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:42:14 +0200 From: Salem Subject: Danzig 5 Hey all, I just got myself a copy of blackacidevil and I think it's bull. Why, because there isn't deep songs like in previous releases. The more Danzig's voice gets distorted, the more I think he's not into singing anymore. If it wasn't for the good coupla songs where Glenn do really sings in, I would not have listened to it after that first time. Now, someone mentioned something about some real fucked up versions of 'sacrifice', and it really saddens me the way Glenn has been dealing with his music lately. I think he wants to go mainstream because the kind of the music he now plays. and because of him featuring a mainstream icon 'Jerry Cantrell' in his new album. And last but not least, his usage of a Black Sabbath cover in a studio album. He already is somehow mainstream because of 'mother' which drew a lot of fuckers claiming to be fans, fuckin poseurs, while they still know one album and listen to three songs in it. Same that happened with Metallica and their fucked up plan to even grow more popular with their new crap. The bottom line is, it's all business. There is nothing wrong with that, lose a fan and gain a dozen. If he continued on with that shit, he may even turn me out of his old stuff. Back later Salem ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:39:19 -0400 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST > From: Stephen Gorny > Subject: Earth AD CD and Adam West Jake - you guys can play all over DC and New York - why don't you ever come to Baltimore??? I'm sure you guys could go over really well with the crowd at Memory Lane. i TOTALLY agree. eric dixon who books that place won't give us the time of day even though i call him every week. why don't you drop him a hint, puh-leeze? - Jake For all you collectors of punk in general - I am desperately looking for the 2 vinyl 7-inch singles put out by D Generation in 1993. Jake is being stingy with his (although I appreciate the copies dude). If anyone has them and would part with them - let me know. stingy? they're not easy to find, beeyotch! :-) i'll look for copies but i ain't giving up the booty, dig? -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:09:13 +0100 From: fakirpro Subject: Complete Misfits on CD I am a new subscriber to the MBible, so sorry if this topic have already been adressed yet. I checked all the discography and sessions of the Misfits on Misfits central, and still I am seeking the truth... er, the answer to the following question : - I have the first print of the Misfits box. I just bought the Walk Among Us CD (first edition). I want ALL the Misfits recording on CD. Even alternate mixes of the same songs. What do I need to buy next ? Collection 1 ? 2 ? If you know it all, email me with the answer at fakirpro@club-internet.fr The Devil Shall Be Grateful David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:56:50 -0800 From: PtrMlr Subject: another damn sighting / lost mail hi, once again someone needed to express their admiration (?) for the Misfits. this time it's the Melvins - they have a shirt out (don't know if it's new), where they use the old Fiend Club logo (circle + CG) but instead of Misfits Fiend Club it says Melvins Fiend Club. on the back there's also a kind of ripped off but altered '4-bars logo' from Black Flag. thought I'd let you know. also something personal - if someone mailed me on sat or sunday: I lost your mail, so please mail me again! thanx alot! Peter. ------------------------------ Date: 13 JAN 97 11:33:52 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Glenns growth .. CG said 'For you people to endlessly defend Glenn because he wants to grow..." Yea, he does want to grow .... to be 6' tall! This way Hong Kong Phooey won't kick his ass!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:57:04 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: YAddaYaDDAYADDA Give your your self to Jesus before the End. WES "" THOMAS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:40:53 -0800 From: Greg Tice Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #282 Danzig 5 is the worst of Glenn's albums. He has such a great voice why would he ever want to distort it with static. I don't think he is following trends he's probably just expirementing with something new. I hate NIN and most industrial but I did enjoy Power Of Darkness and BLACKACIDEVIL. As for Earth AD I think it's a great album. Die Die My Darling, Green Hell, and Queen Wasp are great songs. I didn't get the chance to see the Misfits live last year so I'm looking forward to hearing their new material and M. Graves=) ------------------------------ From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine" Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:08:28 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #282 fiends, This is my first posting so i do not know if this is even going ot get out to everybody, but i was running loose on the internet the oter day and came across a dead milkmen home page thta totally sit on the misfits. The address to this place of milkmen worship is: www.cclabs.missouri.edu/c510299-bin/wwwboard.pl evryine should go there. and get real mad!no, do what ever the fuck you want. also, on the earth A.D. issue. IT is fuckin cool, cause it has a different sound so like you can go back and forth between styles if you are into that. Also. I have a magazine, entitled Evil MAgazine, that i make and anybody who wants to put articles, art anythng you want can be sent to me, Shannon (a guy) at ACA632@annapolis.nscc.ns.ca and if you do send submissions tell me your home address cause you are an instant subscriber. anyQuestions?? ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:18:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #282 : > From: Crimson Ghost > Subject: African American Horror Business??? > Someone said recently that Glenn wanted to grow and evolve Personally I think >he's trying to cash in on a fad. Glenn is time and again a day late and a dollar short. >Glenn is no genius. He saw how big NIN & Marilyn Manson were getting and he > wanted a stab at it. He's always been on the tail end of ANY fad as far as music > goes. He's no originator, he's a copycat. Wow, Strong comments that I respect. Every time someone rants that madly about something, I earn that much more respect for them. This is not a shared opinion though. I think that ever since the Cough Cool single came out, Glenn has made a gradual transition to "Blackassholedevil". Although it is his worst album in my opinion, i don't think he's really copying anyone. He's a smart guy, and I've always felt that bands like Nine inch dick were cheap rip offs of samhain. He sees that they're making money on what he used to do, and now he's cashing in on it. JUST LIKE THE MISFITS!!!! This last record (if you can call it that) was the most dramatic change since Danzig fizzled into existence, but I dont think he's any less a good musician for trying something new. (or old, depending on how you look at it). Im not denying hes looking to cash in, but nothings sacred. I realized that after the Misfits signed to geffen. This world is based on sell outs and wanna be's. I don't think Glenn involved himself in the punk scene because he wanted to be successful. I mean c'mon. Its punk! The Misfits are regarded as one of the 1st great north east HC / Punk bands, just as Black Flag was in CA., Minor Threat was in DC and Negative Approach was in MI. They are the most unique of these bands and if my memory serves me, the first band formed of the group. Thats just my opinion, but don't listen to me, Im a cocksucking poser. Devils are born in angels arms Tom Undermine Rd 1 Box 172 Rt. 22 Wassaic, Ny 12592 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:48:29 -0500 From: Mike Daugherty Subject: Glenn sucks!!! OK fiends listen up slayer is not fukin nazi. They are just a bunch of drunk guys with a band. Hey, fuck them lets talk about the misfits they have all these 7 inches out. I can not find any of them if anybody has information on getting these especially ratfink, Beware, or Horror Business(any cover). Please E-mail me at mjd225@psu.edu. Forever Fiend, DOC ------------------------------ Date: 13 JAN 97 16:02:15 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: still for sale still for sale. I know they'll go eventually. Plan 9 CDs of Collection I and Legacy of Brutality. Excellent cond. and out of print. make offer, they aint super rare.. I pay shipping in US. Collection II CD, not rare at all, Caroline release. Just want to move it as I have the box set now. $8 plus i pay postage or b/o AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:17:43 -0500 From: LaVey Subject: Crimson crap/ Rochester tape i noticed Crimson Ghost said a lot of bad things about Glenn and I'd like to let everyone hear my views... He said that Glenn was cashing in on a fad and saw what manson and NIN were doing.. That's hilarious... So theoretically if Elvis Presley started rock and roll as they say, everyone that followed is cashing in on his rock and roll fad.. One thing I'd like to say.. Glenn could really care less what anyone here thinks, but I know he'd laugh at your pathetic comments. Do I smell a little jealousy Sure do! Listen, musicians are going to do what they want to do and who are any of us to tell any of them what to do.. especially you it seems cause you are a NATURAL BORN CRITIC..In fact I bet you ARE THE BEST MUSICIAN IN THE WORLD..A REAL FUCKING GENIUS! It's an art form and Glenn is not ripping off NIN and Manson... In fact... they dont even sound close. What makes me really respect Glenn is the fact that he knew he was gonna hear this retarded shit before he put 5 out but believed in it enough to put it out. It showed how much he really wanted to. ANd about the money..He'd make more money putting out stuff like 1, 2 , 3 and you know it. No one is buying 5 that likes just industrial, but if it was that classic metal all the metalheads would buy it and the metalheads are buying 5 anyway and then trashing it. Glenn has grown and the fact that hes touring clubs is a sign to me he doesnt need money. Glenn's having fun finally and im happy for him and when i see him on the 4th I'll be sure to tell him I like what he's doing... so maybe he'll keep doing it and that is being an individual and caring nothing about what people say... Glenn has his fans, and he has people jealous of him.. WHy these big Danzig things have to happen in the bible I dont know.. **Other stuff!** I got my rochester show... Its a good tape I suggest getting it.. It's on Mark's page somewhere... You can hear me in 20 eyes and TV Casualty tearing my throat apart.. It's good sounding though and the new songs on it are great... I did notice some songs were cut out though and that was a little disappointing.. if anyone has a video of this ill trade or pay cash! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:23:53 -0800 From: Alan Beckman Subject: leather paint hey. i just started getting the bible. in regards to painting on leather: i dunno if this is a west coast thing or what, but Tandy leather stores have paint called "cova color" that wont peel off or anything. Also, i'm going to be in NJ in late march/early april (princeton area) so if there's any particularly cool places to go to around there, drop me a line. Fay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:08:50 -0500 (EST) From: Heimlich Gustafo Subject: gwar i know this isn't a gwar list but does anybody have any info on a new gwar record or a gwar tour any time soon? you can get back to me at gustafo@cyberenet.net thanks dan "they don't know about you or me no matter what they say to be" -the bouncing souls ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:02:56 -0500 From: "M.A. Correz" Subject: Glenn bashing, or the painful truth? In response to this statement: >For you people to endlessly defend Glenn because he wants to >grow...Well that's a load of shit, he's not growing, he's branching into >genres he knows absolutely nothing about. I have been a Danzig fan for as long as I can remember. in fact, as long as I have been a misfits fan. I probably own 99% or all the recordings Glenn had anything at all to do with. So.... when I read this statement I had to say something. IT IS THE ABSOLUTE FRIGGIN' TRUTH!!! I mean come on, have you actually Listened to Danzig 5: blackacidevil? I can appreciate when an artist feels the need to grow or "expand his horizons, but this recording is just not "Danzig" material. I lied to my self plenty of times when listening to Danzig's recent works... "it's not bad, its just... its just..." well hell, its just garbage!!!! trash, rehashed unoriginal crap. So.. I guess all I can say is, I AM A MISFITS FAN and for a time that admiration included Glenn Danzig. ____________________________________________ M.A. Correz web: http://www.westol.com/~charisma ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:07:31 -0800 From: Devilman Subject: blackacidevil tour blackacidevil tour starts Jan. 14th! Send me your reviews at: http://home.earthlink.net/~devilman138 - webpage or email - devilman138@earthlink.net Oh yeah...If any of you are friends w/ Crimson Ghost tell that punk he has "Shit for BRAINS!" Another Devil Denied, DEVILMAN138 ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:15:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: cell block 138 cg said: < Subject: Seattle, EVB Greetings Fiends, Any fiends going to the Manson show in Seattle on Friday night? If so Email me. Are there any fiends out there in the Seattle area that might be interested in getting a Misfits' cover band together. Right now I think I've got a guitarist, but drums and bass are still needed. Assume that if the cover thing works out we would definitely work on new material of a punk/ Misfits nature. Over the Xmas holiday I was back in Jersey and while flipping through the racks at (I think) a Wall store I found a CD entitled "Scary Music by Eerie Von" or something like that. Unfortunatley I had already found another CD I wanted to buy and couldn't get the EVB album but I thought some of you might be interested, and I don't recall this album being mentioned on the MB in the past few months that I can remember. And to anyone who might have become a Slayer fan upon hearing rumors they were a Nazi band, happy MLK Jr. Day Later--John Ward --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: magnus@en.com Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:35:39 -0500 Subject: DANZIG V and other things Aren't we kinda beating DANZIG V to death here. Christ, it's been out since October 29, 1996. It's fucking January 13, 1997, nearly 3 months. People have been bitching about it so much, it's making my ass tired. Ok, so maybe Glenn didn't put out his best record ever. Maybe he IS trying to capitalize on the sound, and copying other bands. Cut the fucking guy a break though, he's gonna be 42 this year! He's not as sharp as he used to be, and that could well explain his recent actions (Like fucking over John, Chuck, and Eerie. Not to mention Rick). God knows I'm still pissed he left American. But it's time to move on with our lives, people! John Smarsh ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jan 14 00:03:09 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: Capt Harlock shirts, music videos, and Septic Death for those of you who are doing Captain Harlock shirts, you do realize they are availible commercially. There's a number of designs from a Des Moines Iowa compay that sells anime stuff. If you need to info (if you're into anime you should know the company anyway) i'll ask my friend bout it. as far as music videos, i do a video show and anyone who wants to send their vids in for play please do so. address will be at the bottom. and, as far as a Septic Death / Misfits split goes i really doubt there's anything authorized along those lines. I kinda remember there being a boot like that but nothing legit. However, Pushead did do a lot on his Pusmort label with japanese hardcore and other thrashy bands. duh um i think th's it. oh and check out my web page about the Jam covers comp! http://www.spy.net/~allroy/jam/ j jorden c/o youth explosion records pob 654 iowa city ia 52244 (incidentally phantom rats are a good japanese band along the lines of the pusmort tradition.) laters --- --------------==============================------------------ Got up this morning to make some coffee; Everything sucks today. allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: 14 JAN 97 09:44:55 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: vinyl for sale Non Misfits vinyl for sale. 1 copy in very good condition of the Ramones Its Alive double LP. German import bought new by me in 1983 on Sire records, not sure if its the first pressing or not. The sleeve is in good condition, the vinyl is excellent. This is not a bootleg but an LP that was never available in the US except as an import until last year (CD only I believe).This show was recorded New Years Eve 1977 in London and contains 28 songs and runs a little under an hour. Classic lineup of Johhny, Joey, Tommy and Dee Dee playing material off the first 3 albums (Ramones, Leave Home, Rocket To Russia). I repeat, this is NOT a bootleg. Email me if interested. AZ ------------------------------ From: Sexy Sadist Subject: Misfits Patches Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:11:51 -0500 (EST) I am looking for some old or new patches for my punker then youMisfits jacket Preferbly Misfits patches but stuff like Minor Threat, Los Crudos, Black Flagg, and lots of others will do.. I don't care if they are home made or not I just don't have the talent Also I was gone for a while but I heard rumors of a possible Misfits breakup... if this has been beat to death I am sorry can someone just email me (no need to waste bible space on old news Thanks.. BTW I saw Kiss in Concert Dec. 29th I felt like I was 10 years old it was sooooooo cheesy it was the firsty show in 2 years I have been to where you are not up close and personal with the band (and np pit.. come on we can Mosh to "Calling Doc. Love") Does anyone think Kiss' stage show influenced Glen at all? Especialy those who think he's a "Copycat" (laugh) Copycats? Haven't heard any of those on the radio lately.. Has anyone heard anything original on the radio? Granted I don't listen much (only when forced) I have 400 tapes and 300 Cds so I don't have too Blah blah Take care guys Neil Kaiser27#matrix.newpaltz.edu "Hey your highness how's your hammer hanging?" - George Carlin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:45:47 PST Subject: Texas Is The Reason From: Jason Pavento Hey guys, There is a band that is going to be playing a club out here in Boston in a couple-a-weeks called "Texas Is The Reason". I was wondering if they are a Misfits cover band and if anyone has ever heard them. HellHound "Viddy well brother, viddy well" "ifyoutrytomakesenseofthisyoumightaswellputthebarrelinyourmouth" ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Another Misfits Sighting... Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:54:16 -0500 For those of you who successfully found the Misfits shirt in the Real World Calander, here is another one for you... Check out the movie POINT BREAK you know, tht surfing, bank robbery movie. Well, in the scene were they raid the house with the surfers (that turns out the be the wrong people) you can see a super huge Misfits poster on the wall. It is the one with Glenn, Doyle, and Jerry. On the top it says, "BEWARE" and the bottom there is a cool skull (not the Crimson Ghost) and bunch of books like Dracula, Dante's Inferno, and Psycho. Anyways, go to Blockbuster and check it out. Anyone want to make money without working? The following is my WANT LIST. Let me know if you are willing to part wiht any of them. Later, Mark Any Acetates! "Bullet" Second Pressing Red Vinyl with Lyrics ("Better Dead On Red" Sleeve) "Bullet" Third Pressing Black Vinyl ("Better Dead On Red" Sleeve) "Horror Business" Yellow Vinyl with Haunted House Insert "Horror Business" Double A-Sided with Yellow Vinyl "Horror Business" Black Vinyl (Promotional Copies) "Horror Business" Alternate Sleeve (Different Band Shot On Back) "Night Of The Living Dead" with Fiend Club Insert "Three Hits Form Hell" First Pressing Black Vinyl with Large Center Hole "Three Hits Form Hell" First Pressing Black Vinyl with Small Center Hole and Light Grey/White Label (Import) "Three Hits Form Hell" Second Pressing White Vinyl with Large Center Hole "Three Hits Form Hell" Second Pressing Black Vinyl with Small Center Hole and Red/Pink Label (Import) "Halloween" Test Copy with Black and White Test Sleeve and Lyrics on White Paper Promotional Band Photo and Poster that came with "Walk Among Us" "Walk Among Us" First Pressing with Pink Cover and Fiend Club Shirt Insert "Walk Among Us" Second Pressing with Purple Cover and Pink Logo with Fiend Club Shirt Insert "Walk Among Us" Italian Release with Dark Pink Cover "Walk Among Us" Forth Pressing with Purple Cover and Green Logo "Evilive" Fiend Club Edition with Insert "Evilive" Regular Edition with Yellow Center Label "Evilive" 3-Pack "Evilive" First Pressing LP with Green Vinyl (Caroline/Plan 9) "Earth A.D." First Pressing Black Vinyl "Earth A.D." First Pressing Clear Vinyl "Earth A.D." First Pressing Green Vinyl "Earth A.D." Any Hybrid Vinyl "Earth A.D." Second Pressing with Caroline Address "Earth A.D." Third Pressing with Bar Code In Corner "Earth A.D." Silver CD with Plan 9 Logo "Wolfs Blood/Earth A.D." West Germany Released LP (Aggressive Rock Produktioen) "Wolfs Blood/Earth A.D. + Evilive" European Released CD (Modern Music) "Die, Die My Darling" First Pressing Black Vinyl with Fiend Club Order Form "Die, Die My Darling" First Pressing White Vinyl with Fiend Club Order Form "Die, Die My Darling" First Pressing Purple Vinyl with Fiend Club Order Form "Die, Die My Darling" Second Pressing (Repressed By Caroline) "Die, Die My Darling" Third Pressing with Bar Code Sticker On Plastic Wrap "Die, Die My Darling" Fourth Pressing with Bar Code Sticker On Record Sleeve "Die, Die My Darling" Fifth Pressing with Bar Code Printed On Record Sleeve "Legacy Of Brutality" First Pressing Black Vinyl "Legacy Of Brutality" First Pressing Pink Vinyl (Red and White Swirl) "Legacy Of Brutality" Second Pressing with Plan 9 Logo (No Address) "Misfits" or "Collection I" First Pressing CD with Monster Lettering "Misfits" or "Collection I" Second Pressing Black Vinyl with Plastic Wrap Sticker "Static Age Promo Advance Cassette" Given To Caroline Employees "Collection II" First Pressing Red Vinyl "Collection II" Second Pressing Black Vinyl "Box-Set Sampler Edition" Promotional CD in Clear Tray "Box-Set Sampler Edition" Promotional CD in Special Promotional Package "Flipside Vinyl Fanzine Vol. 2" LP with Newspaper Insert "Flipside Vinyl Fanzine Vol. 2" Cassette with Newspaper Insert "Paranoia You Can Dance To" LP (Flipside Compilation) "The Best Of Flipside Vinyl Fanzines" 2 CD (Flipside) "Concrete Music Bloc Volume V, March 1996" Cassette (Concrete Corner) "Oh M!@#*% F*@$#! S%!@!!" Cassette (Caroline) "Madrezid Video Fanzine, Volume 2" Video Tape (Madrezid) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:43:48 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: This is the true HORROR BUSINESS... Hello fiends... First thing is with the post from CG, i do and don't agree with you. I do agree that the kid who had the record in the first place should have stuck with what he agreed on with Patricia. I have always believed in if you say you are going to do something you do it. No maybes no yes and go back on your word. The part i don't agree with is the kid who has it now should sell it. If the kid who has the record is on this list, this is from personal experience. If you sell that record now, you will be kicking yourself for years to come for doing so. I sold my Victims 7" on PLAN9 record, i though i needed the money and i was helping out a friend. I'm still pissed at myself for that and its been 4 years now. The money never lasts, and then you are left with nothing but the memories of owning a record that lots of other people are dying to get their hands on, including yourself. I see it this way CG, this kid is obviously the one ment to have the record at this point and time. You know what is to be is to be. I just think that all the stuff we do has a reason behind it, Patricia thought that by giving the first kid the record was the right thing to do in her mind. Unfortunately he did not uphold to his part of the deal, though i still for the life of me can't figure out why he sold it in the first place. Shit if i had it, it would never leave the house. I know of one fiend that had all his stuff in a vault box at a bank. This was confirmed when a friend of mine went to visit this nut and was taken to see his collection that was in a locked vault box, though that is getting carried away. Shit there Misfits records. AZ, if it was 411 then you could charge a quarter each time they asked a question ;) Oh, and a dollar if you send them to Misfits Central directly. Bile, actually with the Crow, you are right James O'Barr, never mentioned his liking of the Misfits. I have not seen this in any interview. Though in the first pressing of the Crow comics on Caliber Press the 4 comic mentions Legacy of Brutality in the writing on the back of the comic. The pressing that was done on Tundra press, the third book that finally finishes out the series, has a guy the Crow kills (look for the page that says Gravity). He is wearing a Black Flag t-shirt and the shirt he has over that, on the back says Misfits. Though from what i have heard about James is that he had witnessed the murder of his own fiance. if that is true, you can see the rage in him just in the drawings alone. The lyrics that are in the books are from Joy Division, The Cure, and some poetry. I guess this could be considered a Misfits sighting but that doesn't matter one way or another. Adam, you should pay anywhere from $3 - 40 on a Die Die My Darling. The higher end on the purple and or white vinyl ones. Its not easy finding one with an insert, i just lucked out. Though i still have not found a purple one with a good price yet. Misfits 101 - Learning the other stuff... Itchy - the only Necros 7" i have is the one on Gasatanka records - Tangled Up is what it is called. its worth a whole $10. The rarest is Sex Drive, which there are lots of bootlegs of that. Its very rare to the point that the members of the Necros do not have copies of their own from what i was told. it is the first 7" from Touch and Go Records(only 100 pressed). This is considered a good trading item for a Cough/Cool. they are priced the same if you try to buy one. Cheapest i saw one once $150. Though still the cheapest Cough/Cool i know of since it was offered to me $175. Unfortunately for me Taang records was a little to slow in writing back. Though at the time $25 was not a big deal in the difference. Necros had another 7" IQ32, there was two sleeves an one was rare, it was called the Skate Park Sleeve, though i never saw what it looked like. There was an LP called IQ32 also. that is usually $30-50. By the way this is all on Touch and Go. Touch and Go has some very valuable records that make for good trading or selling to get your Misfits record. the second release in 7"s was The Fix - Vengeance(200 pressed). Great song by the way, Tesco Vee does a cover of it on a label run by a Fiend, if i remember correctly the label is Staple Gun Records. The 7" can go for $175 - 300 with no problem. The Fix had another rare Touch and Go release called Jan's Room. - $75 - 150.(1000 pressed) Also if you can find it there is a list of the top 100 valued 7"a in punk and hardcore. its a british thing which makes things hard since the prices are all in pounds. My copy was faxed to me and is not fairing to well i must say. I do have to point out that the #1 is the Misfits Teenager From Mars acetate, being that there are only 5. Its not hard finding and putting together the first 10 from any label, plus those are usually the most valuable. Next time well hit on Discord, their fun to trade with, plus not as hard to find, right off bat i can thing of two places that have the Minor Threat 7" for sale and i don't mean Live at Buff Hall. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 284 Friday, January 17th 1997 Today's Topics: Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:14:19 -0500 From: "m.s.k" Subject: Stuff Hey Fiends I just thought I'd go over some of the recent news in a specially requested Mark-only issue. MISFITS CENTRAL WEB SITE ------------------------ First, Ryq Hinojos and I (but mostly Ryq) have been continuously updating the Guitar chord section of the web page, so anyone who hasn't seen it recently should check it out. We're still missing tab for some of the newer songs, as well as almost all the Undead stuff. (http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/guitar.html) Second, I updated the Collector page, the Pictures page, the Lyrics page, and the News page to give the whole site a more consistent look and make it easier to use. I removed a lot of dead links and updated others, eliminating stuff that wasn't really important. No major changes took place though - I just made it easier to handle. Third - there's a new Undead web page. Bobby Steele spent some time putting together a nice looking Undead web page with an online catalog. It's a lot better than his old page, and everyone should check it out. If you still haven't heard the Undead, don't waste time - go straight to: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ Finally - new Bible Subscribers, please check out the web page. Almost all your questions can be answered there, somewhere. MISFITS HALLOWEEN SHOW CONTEST ------------------------------ Rocky Caiafa (manager) is looking for pictures from the Halloween '96 Misfits show in Philadelphia. He says it was the best Misfits show ever and wants shots of the band in their Star Trek Halloween gear. The person who sends him the best set of photos will win a free ticket to the next Misfits show in Philadelphia. Send them to: Rocky Caiafa; PO Box 281; Glendood, NJ 07418 MISFITS BIBLE MAILING LIST -------------------------- I updated the mailing list program to make things run more smoothly, thanks to a nice perl script by our friend Robert Flemming. I now have an accurate count of Misfits Bible subscribers (1025). Our 1000th subscriber was everybody's friend Blag Jesus. Let me know if you experience any major unusual problems. I will probably have to shut the mailing list down permanently sometime in the summer between May and August due to the fact that I will be graduating from college. I would like to have a permanent Misfits newsgroup created by that time, so anyone who is familiar with the process of newsgroup creation, please contact me. FIEND CLUB ---------- Fiend Club stuff - the deal is the same as always. The band is still in the process of entering names into the database and John Grimm is working on a new postcard now. It will probably be sent out sometime in the spring. Be patient. The Fiend Club has never sent a mailing out to everyone at once and remember that membership is free. Also, if any of you are still interested, I still have several thousand of the tour postcards from the summer. If you want one, email a 32 cent stamp to me: Mark Kennedy; 630 Cabell Ave, Apt 4; Charlottesvill VA 22903 If you don't want it to be postmarked, please email a 5x7 inch envelope with 55 cents postage and I'll send you 4 or 5. NEW STUDIO ALBUM ---------------- New Album - The new Misfits album is still scheduled for April 8th (April 22nd in the worst case) release. The album is now tentatively titled "ATTACK OF THE MISFITS." TOUR DATES ---------- Rocky Caiafa gave me the new tour dates, updated as of January 17th: THE ATTACK TOUR with Sardonica opening 04/15/97 The Garage London, England 04/16/97 Fleece N Firkin Bristol, U.K. 04/17/97 Ormond Multimedia Center Dublin, Ireland 04/18/97 Venue Edinburg, Scotland 04/19/97 Bradford Rio Bradford, England 04/20/97 Foundry Birmingham, England 04/22/97 0dberg De Zwaan Heist, Belgium 04/23/97 Amsterdam, Holland 04/24/97 Zeche Essen, Germany 04/25/97 KB Malmo, Sweden 04/26/97 Dalboparken V0nerborg, Sweden