Misfits Bible, Number 291 Monday, February 3rd 1997 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #287 Samhain vinyl Problem ADAM WEST in CANADA? Re: ADAM WEST Violent World line change of e-mail addy for EVB... misfits Stuff 1:38 Satanism..lets end this quick questions about the misfits ah yes...Orgy Of The Dead AWESOME DANZIG SHIRT I MADE! mindworm Tribute album The Crimson Ghost (pic) unca floyd Prophecy 2, bootlegs & Adam West Some stuff alternate takes Philly 1/31 Love taps, sightings, true meanings and orgies! I AM A WALKING SCREAMING FLAME Most fabulous 138 sighting of all time Satanists Samhain Gold EARTH AD disc/drumstick sale: PRICE CUT Re: Adam West in Halifux Does anyone really read the bible... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine2" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:37:59 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #287 I was in Halifax and I found alot of cool old vinyl records like sex pistols and stuff. Does any body like surf Music. Like the Trashmen or Treble Spankers. Are the Misfits Coming any where near Nova Scotia At all like Boston or anytrhing. Thats Cool! huh! Huh! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:17:00 -0500 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Samhain vinyl >Boy we seem to have this idea fixed in our brains that if a Misfits or >Samhain record is cheap - $50 or less its a bootleg. >i got my second Unholy Passiontan cover for $15 which i sold, a first press >Initium for $10. >so beforeeveryone jumps in and says no way, just look around the local record >stores that you know of. who knows what you might come across. I bought a black vinyl Initium w/o Caroline name or address and a black vinyl Samhain III w/ lyrics and pictures for $3.99 a piece at a store in Arlington, VA. Granted I haven't shown these to any real athorities (Mark, EVB, J.Grimm) but I'm almost positive none are boots. It can happen. Oh, the store is out of business now too. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 1997 14:26:22 +0500 From: Cotter Tim MSM GRPP US Subject: Problem Anyone else have a problem buying stuff from Jeff Herrin-1701 W. Oak, Denton, TX 76201. It seems his phone has been disconnected. If he on this list he better let me know if my stuff has been shipped or I will find him in Denton or Dallas(traveling is a perk of my job and Dallas area is mine). Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:47:43 -0400 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST in CANADA? From: dan sylvester Subject: Re: ADAM WEST "I just wanted to let Jake know that there is another band called ADAM WEST. They're from Halifax or something like that and they're pure silly little girl pop(like Sloan and Eric' Trip). They've been around for like three years. I don't know if they changed their name by now. You may want to check that out just to be safe." thanks for the tip, dan! but actually, i've known about them for a couple years already. we've all come to an agreement without having to get legal about it. anyway, they're, as dan so appropriately put it, "pure, silly, little girl pop." they do a kate bush cover which made me retch when i heard it, so whatever! when we come up to canada soon, we'll have to add a suffix to our name, hence ADAM WEST USA. when you compare our two bands, there's NO similarity, trust me! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:57:04 -0500 From: "George W. Culver" Subject: Violent World line The Nazi reference in Violent World was a demonstrated point to the 'world is in a shit-hole; don't get stepped on' theme of the song, but that is my interpretation of it. While I'm here what's the deal with the wrestling drama? Is it some kinda inside joke. George ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: change of e-mail addy for EVB... Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:52:00 -0500 Even tho I'm no longer on the Bible since I know so many folks on it I wanted to forward my new e-mail address effective now - it is "sistinas@tidalwave.net" - please use this one instead of the old Planetcom addy! Thanks, - EVB ------------------------------ From: x_killebrew@vino.emcmt.edu Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:56:55 -0700 Subject: misfits hey man cut out that montley crue stuff that is just wrong cock rock is the real evil in the world scary isn't it check out the movie Necronomican the book of the Dead it is actually not that bad but plan 9 is still better. I just hope we get the new misfits album here in the backwoods. beware Plutonius ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:33:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Stuff First off, Chicago Fiends, in case you don't read the papers, the Danzig show is NOT on Feb 11 anymore! It's been moved to FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 14. Valentine's Day! Now, I can see Danzig instead of sitting around and wallowing in my self misery about not having a woman. Stephen, out of curiosity, what color t-shirt and jeans were Glenn wearing? I remember hearing the comment "this man has no colors in his closet", so if it wasn't black, the band has lied! sniff sniff. Hotcock's throwing the flames, I see. Actually, I NEVER take the attitude of stomping someone for no reasons. I am actually one of the nice people who hangs around for a while keeping my eyes on those who seem unable of taking care of themselves.....normally first timers, who think the nickname of the Brawlroom is a joke. I think it's strange that the only way you can insult me is by not just warping, but making up a quote from me. ADAMN--it's a boot poster, but I'd say it's a good deal. The cheapest I've seen one for around here is $20. Cresswell, I believe the guy who does Rollins' tattoos is Rick Spellman. At least the back one. As far as Glenn, I have no idea. Romual---RELAX! Are you trying to tell me you've never heard of a band cancelling? I think Glenn was sick or something, and if not, that's a pretty silly reason for turning on a band. Dean---I'd suggest calling Rolling Stone about the instore. I really doubt he'll be there, seeing as he was just there in November. Chris ------------------------------ From: Cooper15@hsonline.net Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 15:23:47 -0500 Subject: 1:38 Anybody real-eyes that "We Are 138" is 1:38 (length of time) ? Pretty Much! Like on Collection II Dr. Acula ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:56:30 -0500 From: Villnave Subject: Satanism..lets end this As a longtime member of the Church of Satan let me give you all the official views. #1 No we do not beleive in satan as an entity #2 Satan represents ideas and things..such as indulgence.. Someone was saying real satanist s are nto this not that..Unfortunately its a label that has to be defined. The LaVeyan satanic philosphy (church of satan) beleives as I stated above.. LAVEYAN SATANISM.. There are a lot of different groups out there.. sub divisions of the label satanism but all very different..problem is ppl label it all satanism when none of it is at all the same.. Also..the thing about everything changing when you join..no.. What happens is smaller organizations will want you and then theyll form their own beliefs or whatever bullshit they want... NO GOD NO DEVIL in LaVeyan satanism.. to make it official now... the beleif is youa re your own God and give respect where it is due... its of the flesh..of the earth.. real.. nothing imagined. .Matt. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:24:47 -0400 (AST) From: Des Roches Subject: quick questions about the misfits 1.what is vinyl? 2.what is it with 138? 3.why did glenn leave the misfits? thanx mail the answers to: brendad@atcon.com thanx,matt (ill soon be a fiend!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:24:00 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: ah yes...Orgy Of The Dead I have this movie. I only watched it once. Basically A man and woman are driving somewhere, their car breaks down, they get captured by a mummy and a wolfman they are brought to Criswell and a fakey Vampira and are forced to watch, One at a time, about 30 topless dancers, they escape and destroy Criswell. The End. I remember only liking the second or third dancer (the redhead?) This was around the time Ed Wood got into making Porography. In the Movie "Look Back In Angora" a Ed Wood biographgy, it tells his story and shows some scenes from one of his porno films he was in. My favorite Ed Wood film is Bride of the Monster and Night Of the Ghouls. (Night of the ghouls is a sequel!) The Crimson Ghost serials are easy to find. I have the colorized version It's On Republic Home Video, catalog number VHS 0778 Bloodfeast is a great movie, a girl really get's her tongue pulled out an another gets her eye plucked out bye ------------------------------ From: Christopher Wilson Subject: AWESOME DANZIG SHIRT I MADE! Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:18:48 -0500 If anyone is interested I made the coolest Danzig T-shirt out there.... Front: White Shirt Danzig's picture Above it, it says, "Danzig" Below it, it says, (in misfits font) "4'1" of Fury!" On the back it has the Danzig Skull, and above it, it says "SELLOUT" Write me if you're interested. Check out the PUNKASFUK! Homepage: http://www.tir.com/~mrnobody/paf/pafmag.htm BOOKMARK IT! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:45:52 -0800 (PST) From: kent Subject: mindworm I really shouldn't, but... A while back I mentioned how issue #138 of The Amazing Spider-Man featured the first appearance of the Mindworm. Well, the Mindworm saga continued in The Spectacular Spider-Man #35 in which Spidey refers to the Mindworm's lair as "this Horror Hotel". It aint no SBTB, but it'll have to do. Does anyone know what's playing in the background at the end of TV Casualty? And no, i don't mean the I Love Lucy theme. The news broadcast or whatever just before Lucy. ...Kent Speak... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:24:51 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: Tribute album I heard the MiSFiTs tribute album, titled "Violent World", is coming out February 11. The Chili Peppers are supposedly on it as well as other bands. I wonder if Metallica will be on their, or even Guns N roses. It will cost $12. Has anyone else heard about this? Is this true? Fiend Forever, Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:23:04 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: The Crimson Ghost (pic) My lame attempt at making the Crimson Ghost: mis fits!misfits.. ........ Misfits.Misfits!.Misfits!!... Misfits!Misfits!Misfits!Misfits. Misfi- ''-ts!Misfits!Mis'':fits!.. ' ''Misfits!''' 'Misf it- s!Misf its!Mis fits. . Mis fits!Misf -its!! Misfi.. ts!Misfits!: :Misfit s!Misfits!Misfits!Misfits!Misfits! Misfits!Misfits!Misfits!Misfits!Mi "'sfits!Misfits!Misfits!Misfits!- '"'"Misfits!Misfits!Misfits''' mi'sfits!Misfits!Misf' '' "its!Misfits!Misfi ":. . """""'"'''"..""'" ts":" !Mi sf i-ts!Mi""' !! sfi' ts!!. .... .."' .!! 'Mis '"""""'."" " .fi' ts!Mi...s"" """.. ..fi.ts" "!Misfits!Misfits:!Misfi' ts!Misfits!Misfits!Mi' '"sfits!Misfits!Misf ":its!Misfits"' '""""' My challenge to you: If you don't like it, than you try and improve it! Don't laugh unless you can do better. I started from scratch, but you can edit mine. Later fiends, Tim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 04:25:35 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Alan Subject: unca floyd Heya's.. i just found a website for an "Uncle Floyd Show"... could this possibly be the same one with the infamous Misfits appearance 'way back? http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gordon_rogue/ Unca Teevie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 10:09:36 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Prophecy 2, bootlegs & Adam West Ok - in my iterview, Glenn said that the name of his character is Samiel (sp?? he pronounced it Sam I Ell) one of Christopher Walken's archangels. His big scene is a fight with Russel Wong which he said is more "just fighting" and not a lot of martial arts stuff. I keep seeing people say that bootlegs are worth $0.00. Bullshit. Like anything else, an item is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. I would say my old Froot Loops boxes my mom bought when I was a kid are worth nothing, but there are a lot of people out there who'll pay big bucks for them. I think the Fits boots of legit releases were probably worth more before the Collections were released as they contained songs that you just couldn't get anywhere else. But people are still willing to pay for this stuff...ergo - they have value. Jake - if there really is a European band called Adam West, maybe you'll have to go the Wrathchild route and change your name to ADAM WEST AMERICA. =============================================================================== Stephen Gorny [] In California, the people voted to do away Department of Psychology [] with racial preferences in hiring and University of MD Baltimore County[] school admissions and to legalize the use 5401 Wilkens Avenue [] of marijuana for medicinal purposes. Baltimore, MD 21228-5398 [] Members of the federal government are [] vowing to fight these referendums. sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu [] It's a good thing that we have such [] officials in Washington - otherwise, the [] laws of this country might be determined by [] its citizens =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 12:57:56 +0500 From: "John B. Kendrick" Subject: Some stuff First off, Justin if you ever listen to Satanists like Paul Valentine he tells us that Satanism is really humanism. It's about human power and believing in yourself and not some god. The SATANIC BIBLE is also a fairly good reference book, although some people believe Anton to be a showman. I have a slightly different interpretation of some Danzig songs than does Thom Patton. To me, Snakes of Christ is about televangelists or any other so-called 'religious person' who professes God, but acts the opposite. "I'm the One" is about someone finding their destiny, and "Her Black Wings" is about, as Glenn stated, "woman to the tenth power". Glenn has also stated that "Son of the Morning Star" is an anti-Farrakan(?) song. To Ardito, I was just making a fucking joke. Don't take it so goddman serious. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:19:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: alternate takes Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 16:33:43, -0500 Subject: Philly 1/31 Hey...Went to the Electric Factory on Friday. I'd never been there before and I must say it is one of the coolest places to see a band. Powerman 5000 was boring. Nothing new. Me and a friend went upstairs and had a few beers. I thougt Electric Hellfire Club was pretty good. I even took my place downstairs. But when they started saying "Christ is dead, Hail Satan" I figured them for a bunch of flakes. The music was allright. Anyway, Danzig came on and slayed as usual. The vocals at times were a little too low, hard to hear. The set was pretty much as described except I don't remember anyone saying that he did Snakes of Christ, which was the last song of the night. The new songs sounded incredible live, with some minor vocal problems. The best however was after the show. Danzig came out and there were quite a few people waiting to meet him. Glenn sat on the steps of his bus and one at a time met every single person there. He took pictures with anyone who wanted it, talked with each for a while, signed all you could give him. He was just completely cool. I don't understand the negative rumors he gets about his attitude. For me he signed Samhain III CD book, Danzig III limited edition box set CD book, and Satanika 1, 2 and 3 of the miniseries. He answered my questions and was just a nice guy. No rock star posing or attitude at all. In the end, he shook my hand and that was that. Anyone who goes to see him, definitely wait around afterwards. It is well worth it. ...Marino ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 10:21:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: Love taps, sightings, true meanings and orgies! Well, what a hotbed of controversy last issue was. Here's what I think of the whole thing... johnny hotcock had the tenacity to pass judgement: >You were acting like an ass and needed to be disciplined. Anyone >quoted as saying "I'm big and bad, I'm gonna stomp some wimps" needs to >be put in line. I'm sorry if you didn't learn anything from the >experience. I fail to see your logic. How does someone saying something you don't like give you the right to "discipline" that person? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you live in the United States of America, right? The country which, so loudly and repeatedly, proclaims it's (drumroll please) First Amendment every chance it gets. I live in Canada, so I might not know, but has this extremely popular Top priority right to all American citizens been repealed? What gives you the right to force yourself, however "lovingly" a "tap," onto another person for saying something (which certainly doesn't sound too ass-like to me, I've heard some real stupid stuff at shows, particurlarly Danzig shows) which you find objectionable? Further more, you have not even given any indication that said remark was directed at you, which might, however unlikely, have given you the right to defend yourself against such a threat. I think, dear sir, you are the ass in this confrontation. Opus, MePhiSto78 and about a zillion others over the course of god knows how long, have graciously pointed out many a "Misfits sighting" which just happens to be a rerun. Is their anyway to compile all of the known sightings into one lump sum so that the uninitiated can consult it to see if their sighting has been uncovered previously? This is getting really tedious, it seems like a new person joins the Misfits Bible and proceeds to share every sighting they have ever seen with relation to the Misfits. I think this is very considerate of them. However, it's ALL been said before. To those with an amazing discovery, please spare us having to hear about yet again. Set up a list instead and invite people to add to it whatever is found. Thomas H. Patton IV speculated: >as for the only song onthe album being about the devil being "Pain in the >World", I'm not tosure, but the snake of christ is Lucifer, I >believe.And also, I think"I'm the One" is about the coming of the >antichrist and "Her BlackWings" is about someone seeking refuge in the >arms of a demoness, maybe?Also, "Devil's Plaything" is about the power >of the Lords of Hell Hmmm... sorry Tommy, but your way off base. Check Eye Magazine 5/13/93 and Faces Magazine Summer 1990, available for perusal in the Articles section of Misfits Central and listed as "eye.93" and "faces3.90" respectively. Glenn gives some rare insights as to the true meanings of the songs and title of Lucifuge. That ought to set you on the right path. x_killebrew and Leah Justis: This "film" can neither be called strange nor fine. In a nutshell Orgy of the Dead sucks. It's not even laughably bad, a la Plan 9 or Night of the Ghouls, it's just dumb. There is a reason Ed Wood never made this movie, even he knew it was no good. That's the news folks and I am outta here. (I miss Dennis Miller) D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca "God bless those pagans." -Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 03:35:07 -0500 (EST) From: The Heartbreak Kid Subject: I AM A WALKING SCREAMING FLAME > From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com > Yes, I'm here to bitch about him cancelling the NYC show!!! 25 FUCKING degrees > Does anyone know why? Let me tell you, this is not the way to gain popularity, you obviously don't know why the show was cancelled, so why do you automatically blame Glenn? And it's Glen*N*. Ignorant. > From: "Thomas H. Patton IV" <"tpatton@intrex.net"@rtp1.intrex.net> I'm going to deal with this post as if it were a serious one, although I suspect the author was joking, because I can't imagine anyone being stupid enough to make some of the claims this guy does. So if it is done in good humour, I'll hand out my apologies right now. Oh, BTW, there's this long thin key at the bottom of your keyboard called spacebar; you might want to try using it so that those of us who are communicating in standard english can understand you. > Who the hell is this Heartbreak Kid guy? I'm no authority on TheMisfits, > Samhain, or Danzig nor do I claim to be, so tell me how hebecomes the > grand champion of knowledge. I did find some points that hemade to have The HBK never claimed to be the champion of knowledge, only of the World Wrsetling Federation. > no argument with but not many. First of all, the snowshoesthat Crimson > Ghost referred to were from a B/W picture/poster in whichGlenn was like, my mistake. I automatically assumed that CG was referring to Glenn's old stage-show sparring gloves. The Rolling Stone picture never occurred to me. > A true satanist admits it freely with noremorse. Then Lucifuge. The > meaning of the word Lucifuge according tothe book of Fallen Angel...and > spirits of the Dark, refers to LucifugeRofocale who is a prime minister > in hell. In Richard Cavendish's "The Black Arts", Lucifuge is referred to as >"one of the ten evil sephiroth, which are ruled by arch-demons well, al thos elittle books of yours have some nice defintions of "lucifuge", but unless they predate the latin language, they are incorrect. The definition I gave is the one most latin dictionaries give, as well as the one Glenn gives. > under the supreme command Sammael, the fell angel of poison." And as for > the only song onthe album being about the devil being "Pain in the > World", I'm not tosure, but the snake of christ is Lucifer, I first, a note to all subscribers: two = 2 to = a preposition, as in: "let's go to the Misfits concert" too = "as well", "also"; or, it is used to indicate an excessive amount (as in, "I like the Misfits, and Samhain, too" or , "most of you think my posts are too long" usually all of this is covered by grade two or three... now onto your comments about the album Lucifuge: You proceed to list all these songs on Lucifuge that may also be about Satan, as if to refute my statement that *only* "Pain in the World" is about the Devil. What you obviously didn't notice is that I WAS QUOTING GLENN DANZIG, who said that "Pain..." was the only such song. > of the Lords of Hell? Whatabout females in Danzig's videos? How many > have you seen? I think he hadwomen in Mother, She Rides, Am I Demon, I have seen all of them except for "Sacrifice" and "I Don't Mind the Pain." Of course, you missed the sarcasm of my original post. When you all read posts, does it not occur to you that sometimes other people's previous posts are sometimes included for a reason? If you look at the context in which I said "Danzig doesn't use enough girls in his videos", you would not that it was in response to someone else's claim that "Glenn doesn't seem too interested in women" (or something). Do I have to spell it out for you? It's SARCASM. > the One, where he's out in a cabinin the Louisiana Bayou with chicks. I > can't remember too much about itthough because it was on Hard Copy or > Inside Edition ar one of thoseshows and they were talking about bands > using BEAUTIFUL, GLAMOROUSMODELS IN THEIR VIDEOS!!!!! Also, I'm sure if BTW, foo those few of us who even like Danzig, the clip this guy saw on Inside Edition or whatever is not the same "I'm the One" that's on the Lucifuge home video; it is edited slightly differently, with a few other scenes. > yeah, incidently, Son ofthe Morning Star is also about the star Lucifer, no, actually, it is about Satan himself, not the star. (according to someone who should know --- namely, the guy who wrote it). But that song is not on Danzig II, so it has nothing to do with what I was talking about anyway... 6> say. Who "they"are, I don't know. Next, he tries to say Marvel had Hulk > Hogan trademarked in 1962? Idon't think so. They may have had the name Christ, you should really learn to read. I didn't say that at all. I said they had "The Hulk" trademarked in 1962, LONG BEFORE Terry Bolea (?) ever used the name. You actually used, virtually verbatim, one of my own statements to prove me wrong. Of course, if you had comprehended my statement in the first place, you would have realized that I was saying the exact same thing you just did. > (?) states his opinion, this guy says he'sgonna kick his teeth > down his throat. Watch out buddy. It's not sizethat counts it's hatred > and rage cause once somebody starts beating onsomeone and they've build > up rage inside of them all their life thereain't too much that's gonna > stop 'em. So keep that in mind. Until next time...Rebel Angel. uhh, well, yes, I'm sure you're quite the credit to dementia, and that gibberish about rage must have some meaning to you, but I really don't know what you're talking about. As for size, even if it does count, at 5'4" I would hardly be in a position to use it over someone else, would I? As for the teeth down the throat, (?) understood that I was quoting WWF Champion Shawn Michaels, whose finishing maneouvre is a kick to the face. He understood that I was joking around, and he responded the way Steve Austin would have. Now, if you are not a wrestling fan, I wouldn't expect you to know this, but if you have a brain, I would expect you to know when two people are having a little fun with each other -- and not to bud-in by flaming me for it. > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) > Actually, Brett i think your taking this wrestling thing a little to far. I will take it as far as I have to and I will do anything and everything to retain the World Wrestling Federation Title. > And yes from time to time, you go of the deep end defending Glenn. i can > understand when the bible gets into a Glenn bashing cycle. but defending > Glenn over an opinion from CG on every word he says is a bit much. we all > have our ideas of Glenn, and it is interesting to read some of the things > that come up from time to time. i have heard a lot of stuff over the years > and some of which i would not even bother to post cause most of its rumors. hmmm...no. I don't respond to every word, in fact I ignore quite a bit. I personally don't think it's interesting reading other people's bashings of Glenn, because it's always the same groundless bullshit over and over. Although I will say that, as screwed-up and foolish as they are, at least CG puts some thought into his criticisms. (oh come on, that line is begging for someone to flip out on me. You saps...) Anyway Tammy, I think YOU really think I'm getting psychotic when I'm really only having a little laugh. ...although I guess that is an ironic statement considering everything I just said to that other guy above... oh well, "I know you wouldn't want to be me, but believe me, even if you wanted to be me, you couldn't" -BRETT NOT FRANK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 17:18:44 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Most fabulous 138 sighting of all time Ha, you slippy monkeys, I have found the most bestest 138 sighting and it's 20 years old! I went to see the new Star Wars last night. I was paying attention for new scenes, and I came across an old scene that was the most exciting for me. I never new this... When Han and Luke take Chewy to the detention block to rescue the Princess, The guard says "What is thisssss thing??????" Luke says "Prisoner tranfer from cell block 1138." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH The Empire must be Misfits fans. :| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:39:21 -0500 From: "Jason St. Jacques" Subject: Satanists Okay, for all you simpletons who think you know Jack-shit about the world, go read the Satanic Bible by Anton Lavey (spelling?!?!). This is their bible, so it's pretty accurate to their beliefs. Read it before you guys babble about shit you know nothing about (a regular phenomenon in here). Anyway, for those of you that are too scared to read it [because you might go to hell], the beginning of the book explains evil as Christians ignoring primal instacts to LIVE (evil= live backwards, you get the idea). The church is there to control you; they believe only animals masturbate, so humans should not (to deny that we are animals), blah, blah,blah. Okay basic stuff that those who aren't Satanics should believe. Anton also writes that he doesn't believe in black magic, black masses, the devil (as an entity), but the second half of the book is spells, the names of the devil and shit like that. It's a load of shit. So before you judge/comment on something please know what you are talking about. I might be forced to sacrifice you to my god....ME. If you want to know more about Satanics, you can ask me. My knowledge is limited, but I can help a little. Also I suggest you read the Satanic Bible, just to get an idea of what they're about. Don't buy it though. REALIZE ONE THING....IT WAS WRITTEN TO MAKE MONEY!! j. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:40:44 -0500 From: "Jason St. Jacques" Subject: Samhain Anyone who wants Samhain on C.D., let me know. I have a friend who has N.C.F. Initium, and Final Descent. And he hates them. Make an offer and I'll pass them on to him! J. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:41:04 -0500 From: "Jason St. Jacques" Itchy. Tasty. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 23:22:37 -0500 (EST) From: Valgamon Subject: Gold EARTH AD disc/drumstick sale: PRICE CUT (I apologize to the person from AOL who I just about closed a deal with on this auction, but your email address ceased to be valid during our negotiations and therefore the items are back on the cyber-auction block.) Item #1 - A gold EARTH AD compact disc, mint condition, played only twice to make a tape of the songs for my walkman. Limited to 15000 copies, according to Mark Kennedy's official discography. Item #2 - a drumstick used by Dr. Chud during the Misfits' May 6th, 1996 show at the SUB ZERO club in Danbury, CT. This was caught by me when he threw it out into the crowd during a break in the set. After the show I managed to get Jerry and Doyle to sign it! Item #3 - ticket stub from the above show, goes with the stick for free. I would like to keep the items together but will break them up if absolutely necessary. I'd like to start the bidding (which will be conducted by email) at $50 for the CD, and $15 for the drumstick. this email address has had a few problems lately so as a backup you can send a message to valgamon@virulence.snet.net, or valgamon@duncan.nac.net Cheers! - Valg ------------------------------ From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine" Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:43:52 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Adam West in Halifux Yes there is another Adam West and Dan Sylvester is Right, they are girlie Rock and They Fuckin Suck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:54:49 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Does anyone really read the bible... Hello fiends... First off - the Misfits Bible T-shirt thing. Jason no one ripped of you or anything Glenn did. The process in getting to the design of the front and back of the t-shirt was this(being that i ran the voting and such). first we had a pole with 5 questions to decide what the design should look like, next we took a vote on that. once we had the idea to what the design for the front would look like all artists that were bible subscribers were asked to submit designs that fit the look we all agreed on. we had i think about 12 different ones which were also voted on. the winner was Greg's design. i had pointed out in the very beginning that i would be designing the back. and i did not try to copy anything. i drew out several different ideas till i saw one that worked. the CG that i used was a photo of the real CG from the serial, that i had altered to make it look like a drawing. which also goes back to the reason why i did not take on desiging the front design. I am a graphic designer not a fine artist. my drawing skill would not match that of Greg's or any of the other people who drew the design concept. so that is how we got both designs for the t-shirt. Romual_Piecyk - i hate to tell you this but if you were reading the bible last week you would have seen that both Bile666 and myself had posted about Daznig cancelling the show at Roseland. Misfits 101... who has what... The new issue of MRR is out, and what is up for graps. no vinyl but lots of video footage. Merel, GG's brother who will sell you anything under the sun including his brother on vinyl, tape and video. has some misfits footage on his list. also Peter De Mattia is still serving it up after 10 years that i know of. though footage that some of my friend have from this guy was not so hot back in 1988. he is now sporting an e-mail address peterd@warwick.net oh and if you are looking for all the colors for Collection 2 Vinyl Ink has all three for sale. plus they are on the internet. the rest is Danzig stuff but nothing to new. all i can say is i hope Ashes makes it to a release. oh to the guy with the Die Die poster, one that is a bootleg and there were several of them out there. One that had the back of Legacy, one for WAU, the Die Die, and a couple others. the price range was $10-15 when they first came out. at this point i have not seen a lot of them around. if i remeber correctly some were british imports like some of the bootlegged 7"s. it seems each country took a shot at bootlegging Misfits items. though Germany had the best success at it. at one point and one of the reasons i gave up buying bootlegs was Germany churned out 30 different bootlegs in one month. also MRR did a article on all the bootlegs being made. talked a little about some the misfits ones. though the original poster for the misfits were not big like the bootleg ones. the Three hits i have is small in comparison. and the WAU promo poster is a perfect square. finding them is not as easy as the bootlegs. it took me years to get the promo WAU. well more stuff next time. Later to all the fiendies!?!(warning you have to use your own judgement to understand the meaning of what this sentence says) tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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RE: last ish Static Age CD Weird Misfits sightings Re: Misfits Bible #291 Re: Misfits Bible #291 Killing tonight satanism, my ass The Crimson Ghost (edit) 1/31 danzig stuff The Heartbreak Kid's Grammar sucks! misfits and.... more misfits put Captain Solo in the cargo hold American Psycho lyrics Jeff Herrin Squirt #3 European Fiends Guitar March 1997 OiOiOi Cheap vinyl, answers and questions... Re: Misfits Bible #291 dream band Re: Misfits Bible #291 Glow in the dark t-shirts New Rave Glenn on the radio It just amazing to me... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.s.k" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #291 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:00:29 -0500 (EST) > From: Daniel Herrmann > Subject: Tribute album > > I heard the MiSFiTs tribute album, titled "Violent World", is coming out > February 11. The Chili Peppers are supposedly on it as well as other > bands. I wonder if Metallica will be on their, or even Guns N roses. > It will cost $12. Has anyone else heard about this? Is this true? I'll post this again: VIOLENT WORLD - A Tribute To The Misfits Release date: February 11, 1997 _________________________________________________________________ Imagine mixing Metal, Hardcore, East and West Coast Punk, Krishnacore and Vegan Straight Edge with the outrageous b-movie horror fixation of the Misfits. You'd have the Violent World: a homage to one of the greatest punk rock bands ever by some of the best rock bands of the 1990's, bands that would not be the same today without the Misfits. Violent World consists of 14 never-before-released Misfits covers which were recorded exclusively for this record. Many of these bands, including Snapcase, Therapy? and Pennywise have added these versions to their live sets, futher preaching the Misfits' ever-growing legacy to new legions of fans across the country and around the world. The bands on this compilation chose what song to cover and with whom they would record it. They chose people like the legendary hardcore guru Don Fury, producer of CIV and Quicksand, who recorded both the Bouncing Soles and Sick Of It All tracks and Bill Stevenson of Descendents, All and Black Flag fame, who produced the Shades Apart track. Track List: Side 1 1. She - Snapcase 2. Astro Zombies - Pennywise 3. 20 Eyes - Shades Apart 4. TV Casualty - Tanner 5. Where Eagles Dare - Therapy? 6. London Dungeon - Prong 7. Death Comes Ripping - 108 Side 2 1. Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight? - Bouncing Souls 2. Ghouls Night Out - Goldfinger 3. Horror Business - Deadguy 4. All Hell Breaks Loose - Sick Of It All 5. Last Caress - NOFX 6. Earth A.D. - Earth Crisis 7. Return Of The Fly - Farside _________________________________________________________________ ASSORTED INFO: The album was produced by Tom Bejgrowicz who also produced the Misfits Box Set and Collection II. The album will be released in limited quantities of Orange, Green, and White vinyl, not to mention a permanent issue of black vinyl, and the usual CD and cassette. VIOLENT WORLD CONTEST Prize: A complete set of the "Violent World" colored vinyl, poster, postcard Match the following statements with the band it pertains to: * A. Snapcase * B. Pennywise * C. Shades Apart * D. Tanner * E. Therapy? * F. Prong * G. 108 * H. Bouncing Souls * I. Goldfinger * J. Deadguy * K. Sick Of It All * L. NOFX * M. Earth Crisis * N. Farside 1. This band can sometimes be found playing around town under the pseudonym of The Alleyway Crew. 2. A New Jersey band who wears their obsession with the 1980's movies like "Better Off Dead" on their sleeves. 3. Their first two records came out on the obscure indie label Wiija before being re-titled and compiled for release in the United States. 4. Violent World features this band's first recording with their new guitarist whose predecessor has gone on to form his new band, Kite Eating Tree. 5. In support of their debut album, they opened up for punk legends the Sex Pistols, the Buzzcocks and Bad Religion. 6. Their politically and socially charged message has been featured on CNN and MTV. 7. Ben E. King's "Stand By Me was covered on an early 7" and is still a staple of their live set. 8. They've toured with fellow San Diego bands Rocket From The Crypt and Drive Like Jehu. 9. Now broken up, the band played their final show ever at CBGB's this past year. 10. They have consistently worked with producer Bill Stevenson (current member of the Descendents and former member of All and Black Flag 11. The drummer auditioned for the Misfits while performing "Horror Business," "20 Eyes," and "Mommy..." with Jerry and Doyle. 12. Their singer/bassist has a license plate that says "Punk Guy." 13. released an album which has an employee of the band's label calling up Chinese restaurants and asking for "vegan chicken." 14. They've had songs reworked by Alex Patterson (Orb) and J.G. Thirwell (Foetus). All entries must be e-mailed to tomb@caroline.com by March 1, 1997. The top scores, in case of a tie, will be put into a "hat" and the sole winner will be drawn randomly from that. Look for full page advertisements in the January '97 issues of Hit Parader, Alternative Press, and Warp. _________________________________________________________________ > From: Teevie Alan > Subject: unca floyd > > Heya's.. i just found a website for an "Uncle Floyd Show"... could this > possibly be the same one with the infamous Misfits appearance 'way back? > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gordon_rogue/ It's quite possible... > From: Stephen Gorny > Subject: Prophecy 2, bootlegs & Adam West > > I keep seeing people say that bootlegs are worth $0.00. Bullshit. Like > anything else, an item is worth whatever people are willing to pay for > it. I would say my old Froot Loops boxes my mom bought when I was a kid > are worth nothing, but there are a lot of people out there who'll pay big > bucks for them. I think the Fits boots of legit releases were probably > worth more before the Collections were released as they contained songs > that you just couldn't get anywhere else. But people are still willing > to pay for this stuff...ergo - they have value. Monetary (aka RIPOFF) value perhaps, but really, bootlegs don't or shouldn't have any collecting value. They're fake. Anyone can make them. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 10:18:23 -0400 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST USA > From: Stephen Gorny > Subject: Prophecy 2, bootlegs & Adam West > Jake - if there really is a European band called Adam West, maybe you'll > have to go the Wrathchild route and change your name to ADAM WEST AMERICA. uh, yeh. i saw wrathchild UK and wrathchild america (later souls at zero) and i have nothing good to say. ADAM WEST USA, for all you foreigners. > From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine" > Subject: Re: Adam West in Halifux > Yes there is another Adam West and Dan Sylvester is Right, they are > girlie Rock and They Fuckin Suck i don't like to rip on other bands, but i have to agree. my band gets hate mail too, so we're definitely not excluded. i just got an e-mail message saying that ADAM WEST isn't oi enuff. D.C. Oi in da house! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:38:44 -0500 From: Scott B <101761.413@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #290 A couple of comments on the Bible: >I know that Glenn's ancestory is Italian, but does anyone know if he's >Sicilian desecent? You know what they say...an Italian and gorilla fucked >and gave birth to a Sicilian. Glenn mentioned on a radio interview a few years ago that his father is of German-Italian descent, and his mother is of Scots descent. He went on to say something like "Every time I go to Scotland, my mom tells me to look up some relatives". >What is the name of the guy who does tattooes for Danzig and Rollins? Not sure about Glenn, but I know Rick Spellman did a lot of Henry's. >had anyone ever seen a movie called orgy of the dead? This was one of Ed Wood's necro-porn efforts, which he got into in the late 60s/early 70s, after the failure of his sci-fi movies. The book 'Nightmare of Ecstacy: The Life and Art of Edward D. Wood jr" has more details and stills from all this stuff. Incidentally, this film was "filmed in Astravision and Sexicolor"...... By the way, where's Wes? ------------------------------ From: Craig Wieczorkiewicz Subject: American Nightmare...um, Graffitti Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 10:28:21 CST Hey fiends, My roommate and I were watching "American Graffitti" the other night and when we got to the part where John Milner and the jailbait were at the drive-in restaurant and there is a shot of the back of Milner's car, I let out this amazingly fiendish sound of joy. Take a look at Milner's license plate. It reads "THX 138" ... of course, "American Graffitti" is a George Lucas film, so obviously he was plugging a certain other film of his... My my, what a fiendish little circle he has weaved... Zork Can't wait for the tribute album! ------------------------------ Date: 3 FEB 97 08:30:44 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: danzig 1/31/96 Saw Danzig in Philly on Friday night with my buddy. Here are some observations. 1. The Electric Factory was about 1/2 full at the most. This really surprised me, especially after my buddy telling me of the packed shows he has seen at the Ritz a few years back. I saw the Ramones there last year, and it was packed to the gills, during a huge snow storm to boot. 2. Since I dont like industrial, and I hated Danzig 5, the new tunes bored the hell out of me, but I guess I expected that. 3. Tommy Victor can play. His tone wasnt as good (IMHO) as Johns, but he pulled off all the licks no sweat, and did all the note dives WITHOUT a whammy (neck bends) which really impressed me. Tommy needs to stop smiling. There is no reason to smile on stage when playing Danzig. Your supposed to look evil and pissed off. 4. Lazie? ---- yawn 5. Castillo. Ok drummer I guess, but he is no Biscuits. Chuck pounds the hell out of the drums, this guy was just there. The old tunes sounded good, not great, just good. Never having seen Danzig before (and I had a chance on every tour since '88, I just kept putting it off! I have lived to regret it!) I can only compare to what I have heard on the albums. I'm not going to go see him again. AZ Ps - The Electric Hellfire Club was the worst band I've ever seen. They even covered "Calling Dr. Love" by Kiss. I'm glad we got there 2/3 through there set, I would have killed myself. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 09:48:24 -0800 From: ADAMN#15 Subject: Tattoos women and other things Someone said in Bible #291 >Cresswell, I believe the guy who does Rollins' tattoos is Rick Spellman. At least the back one. As far >as Glenn, I have no idea. Rick Spellman also does Glenn's & Doyles tats too. He also has one of Doyle's guitars and HE WILL NOT SELL IT!!!! He is in Southern California but I am not sure what city. I think he plays roller hockey around there too. Who ever wondered who Glenn's woman is, I believe I have the answer to that one. I believe she is the girl in the "She Rides" video. Laters..... ADAMN#15 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ BE KIND TO ANIMALS SUPPORT GROVE HOCKEY http://www.chapman.edu/students/areygers/project/ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 10:55:04 -0800 From: Fay Beckman Subject: So ChristoTer finally got what was coming to him . . . I saw in the last MB that the dude who took care of the blowhard ChristoTer told his side of the story. It's about time somebody takes action and makes ChristoTer his woman. He'll be in the outhouse passing out suckjobs after this. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 11:03:32 -0800 From: Joe Franke Subject: tv casualty >Does anyone know what's playing in the background at the end of >TV Casualty? And no, i don't mean the I Love Lucy theme. The news >broadcast or whatever just before Lucy. Star Trek. bring back the "all mark" issues, by the way, scrolling through a batch of idtiotic posts to get to the tiniest tidbit of information is tiring. -- Joe Franke "Hail Satan" jfranke@slip.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 14:02:27 -0500 From: zycki Subject: random 'fits related thoughts Just some quick thoughts [i haven't posted in ages (1 yr), but hey, I'm bored]. Tammy definitely knows what she is talking about when it comes to collecting and find originals for low prices. The lowest prices you will ever find will always be found at record conventions. I found a tan cover Unholy Passion for $10, an original Agnostic Front Victim in Pain [Rat cage records, original cover] and their first ep United Blood [pre-RatCage version] [$12 total], Cro-Mags Age of Quarrel 10 inch [$10], and an original Madball Balls of destruction [$1] at record conventions. Most of the time the dealers do not know what they have, especially if they buy collections and just try to sell them off. Goldmine is a very good place to look, but people who advertise there know what they have and charge accordingly. I also found it cheaper to buy NYHC stuff from dealers ANYWHERE outside the tri-state region. Misfits items will be a lot cheaper in butt-fuck Montana than in Bleeker Bobs in NYC [which has an excellent selection of old punk/hardcore/oi, but charge WAAAAAY too much]. Incidentally, my best find was an Initium Cd with Unholy Passion on it. This rarity was bought right off the shelf brand new from a record chain [the old Record World]. Guess I was lucky enough to find onre of the factory slips [and so was my friend who also has one too]. >From: Inzo >Subject: Most fabulous 138 sighting of all time > >Ha, you slippy monkeys, I have found the most bestest 138 sighting and >it's 20 years old! I went to see the new Star Wars last night. I was >paying attention for new scenes, and I came across an old scene that was >the most exciting for me. I never new this... > >When Han and Luke take Chewy to the detention block to rescue the >Princess, The guard says "What is thisssss thing??????" > >Luke says "Prisoner tranfer from cell block 1138." > >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH The Empire must be Misfits fans. :| Isn't Inzo the millionth person to mention this? Obviously his knowledge of Star Wars is minimal. Almost everyone knows it is an inside reference to THX1138 [his previous work]. Now with the re-release, this will bury the SBTB "sighting" as most annoyingly mentioned 138 reference. Finally, can anyone help me locate the following: Warzone - Lower East Side Crew 7 in. [Revelation Records] and the early Sick of It All Revelation singles? ah, that felt good zycki "Wicked men! Cease your antics, or I may be forced to assault you with the U.S. Postal System!" -The Tick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:28:55 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: adam west lotherefiends, what's all this talk about adam west? i remember him from the old batman. i love the old batman! does anyone know where i can get the old batmobile? the car i'm driving now is shit. -steve- ------------------------------ From: "TREVOR JOSEPH MCPHEE" Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:40:55 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #291 I am commenting on the "Most Fabulous 138 Sighting". Mike why don't you go rent THX1138, and everything will become clear. ------------------------------ From: "Not the Best Hung Carrott In The Fridge" Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:10:33 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: most Fab 138 sighting! The is the best but there is so much more to that then you see my fair friend. You see Thx-1138 was a george lucas film. Hence the "THX' sound and picture thing. He ties in a whole bunch of his sit in minute Quantities in all his movies. i.e.: The Hyroglyphs of Arr two and C3p0 in Indiana Jones and cell block 1138 in star wars and blah blah. So there is lots of oter cool stuff too! Asteroids as potatoes if you look hard enough! cool Later. On Satanism....Hmmm who fucking cares, Who is the High priest of the "church" of Satan, Acheron i suppose, right! never the less if, you are in the Church of satan and you say it is about free spirited, and you stand by it devoutly, you might as well be Christian if you your going to join an establishment. So shut up about Satanism! Shannon ------------------------------ From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine2" Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:55:43 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #291 I played with THE cANADIAN aDAM wEST they sucked sorry tosay. I played with them at CAfe Ole in Halifax . Star wars is awesome I love it . Me and shannon watched it for ther forty fifth time. I really like to watch it with no clothes on and ketchup all over my weneir. mioke. who cares about glenns coffee. What about doyles socks? and where do the misfits shop where do they ghet their cool fuckin clothes.!!! fuck. Girls Girls Girls! your right motley crue is not that great. but they are tuff as nails because they smoke in the boys room (rebels) I saw Our Lady Peace play on the weekend they are good . I asked them to play London dungeons but they didn't so there fo they suck. Thats Cool! huh! Huh! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:42:24 -0500 From: dan sylvester Subject: Re: Geography lesson Actually Steven, Canada is in North America not Europe. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:44:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: seinfeld... christopher wilson said: < Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 17:44:37 EST Here is what i have from back in my old days in Paramus and it is time to part with them. I just joined so here is mt stuff and prices: Cough/Cool Blank Records: 450 Who Killed Marilyn purple/black swirled:400 Collection II clear- 25 send me youre offer if you are interested. i figured these would be decent prices if they are way too much or little let me know please. thanx GreG ------------------------------ Date: 3 FEB 97 14:40:46 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Hangin Ten in East Berlin From: Des Roches you said >1.what is vinyl? >2.what is it with 138? >3.why did glenn leave the misfits? I am assuming your questions are legit, but if not, I guess I'm the fool. 1. Vinyl is an ancient (i.e., popular until the late 80s/early 90s) form of distributing music, sometime called LP (For Long Playing record) or EP (Extened Playing record) and in the punk world, the most common 7" EP (7" being the diameter of the vinyl disc in question) Since there is now a whole generation that has never seen a vinyl record, I assume this question is valid. 2. i will pass on this one, check the webpage 3. Glenn left because he wanted to. I guess it was time for a "career" change which became Samhain, which then became Danzig, which is now Nine Inch Glenn. Personally, I am waiting for a surf album by Glenn. He can get Dick Dale to play guitar. Now THAT would be cool. He could call it "Danzig 6, HangTenwiththeDevil" Teevie Alan asked "Heya's.. i just found a website for an "Uncle Floyd >Show"... could this >possibly be the same one with the infamous Misfits appearance 'way back? There is only one Uncle Floyd. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:41:05 -0500 From: Xdisco infernoX Subject: Glenn at the Troc????? I was at the January 31st H2O show at the Trocadero in Philly and a couple interesting things took place. First Lars from Rancid (who I'm not particularly a fan of) Joined the band for their rendition of Minor Threat's SALAD DAYS and the Cro-Mags HARD TIMES (you fiends know the Cro-Mags don't you?). Why this was interesting enough to mention here on the Bible was that the word drifting around the crowd was that Lars came to the Troc show after the Danzig show across town finished and was accompanied to the Troc by Glenn Danzig himself. I personally didn't see Glenn and can't confirm anything but I thought it was an interesting rumor. Later. XDisco InfernoX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 19:58:10 -0500 From: David Cook Subject: RE: last ish ------------2D524CAB5A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii D.ETH said: > I fail to see your logic. How does someone saying something you > like give you the right to "discipline" that person? Correct me if I'm > wrong, but you live in the United States of America, right? The > which, so loudly and repeatedly, proclaims it's (drumroll please) > Amendment every chance it gets. I live in Canada, so I might not know, > has this extremely popular Top priority right to all American citizens > repealed? > What gives you the right to force yourself, however "lovingly" a > onto another person for saying something (which certainly doesn't > ass-like to me, I've heard some real stupid stuff at shows, > Danzig shows) which you find objectionable? Further more, you have not > given any indication that said remark was directed at you, which > however unlikely, have given you the right to defend yourself against > threat. I think, dear sir, you are the ass in this confrontation. Well, I live in the USA, and I say that it is all bullshit. I say that there is no real freedom, and that the government is facist. So, then I have to say that the dude that punched him is an asshole. I mean, when he punched him he created two classes of people, the masters(opressors) and the slaves. That happens everyday here (and elsewhere). America is all about being a hypocrite. Beating on people who say or do things different that you. So, to Johnny Hotcock, fuck you. You decide that you are going to change someone's ideas by beating on them? It won't and doesn't, and never will work. If someone says somehting dumb, put it in their fucking face, and tell them. Don't hit them. shit head. Although, I gotta give D.ETH credit, you said some good stuff. But, see the reality of America is completely different from the perception. America is fake and plastic. The constitution is a rat shit piece of paper that people worship, as is the flag a tattered old piece of cloth(which is SACRED). So, if you like to worship multiple false gods, indoctrination, facism, and lies... please come right over. Not to say it's any better in Canada. Or Elsewhere. David Cook ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:02:58 -0600 (CST) From: nick winkleback Subject: Static Age CD Greets! I have the first pressing Caroline Misfits box set and I've noticed something rather odd about the Static Age CD: It seems you have to break it to open it, since the whole blasted thing seems fused together. Does anyone have any thoughts/suggestions on this? If this has been discussed before please accept my most sincere apologies as I am still relatively new to the MB. ------------------------------ From: SkaKing@webtv.net (Robert Gray) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:36:27 -0600 Subject: Weird Misfits sightings Hey feinds. I know this is stupid, but In my lame-ass skool, My Feind pin was stolen, and I found it in the floor of room 138...Coincidence??? you be the judge..and oh yeah, my Science teacher has a little devillock...cool. Stay Rude Stay Rebel Rob ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:48:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #291 I GOT MY COUGH/COOL 7" (NOT A BOOTLEG) FOR $10 ------------------------------ From: "BIG DADDY COOL" Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:55:45 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #291 Hey Kids, I got D-Rods B-Movie madness tape in the mail today and it kicks ass. You should all pick it up as it is only 4 bucks. A lot of time was probalby put into compiling it, and the secret tracks are worth having, especicaly considering you may never hear one of the songs ever recorded or played live by the Misfts. Get it. Later Roger ------------------------------ From: Misfit57@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:07:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Killing tonight This is my first post, I wasn't planing on posting at all, but I have just got to say something. I subscribed like 4 issues ago, so someone else might have mentioned this already, but who cares. A while ago I was doing my homework so that I'll be smart and my CD player(on random play at the time) picked, "Mommy Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?" on Collection One. I listened while working up until the part where all the music stops and the question is asked, "Mommy Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?''. I stopped and listened intenly and I heard a faint voice in the background, like one from a horror movie perhaps(?). It is kind of hard to hear, but it is there, I couldn't come up with another solution besides the character from a horror movie, and I was wondering if antone else has heard it or if anyone knows whose/what's voice it is. Respond if you care. rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 19:43:20 -0800 From: Fay Beckman Subject: satanism, my ass hey, everyone, satanism is a fuckin' FAD. watch me alienate myself (im damn good at it)... im sure there is something real behind satanism, and a few people who actually believe in it, but 9 times out of 10 it's some marilyn manson- worshipping teenager who wants to piss their parents off. it's a nice word to shock the "establishment". "i'm satanic" has that nice goth ring to it that all the spooky kids go for. it justifies throwing cats (or, if my pet theory is correct, hot dogs ;) into wells, which is a nice power trip for a downtrodden 13 year old. minus the fabled cat-drowning proclivities of your average "satanist", this would be okay, EXCEPT they dont read up on their religion of choice (except maybe CD inserts) enought to prove anything about themselves. of course, i am generalizing grossly, so if you happen to be an actual satanist with half a brain, forgive me. fay ps- does anyone else think that bass thing at the end of bringer of death is on the Descent II soundtrack? um, it's not like i actually PLAY descent or anything, just wondering. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:08:10 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: The Crimson Ghost (edit) Last time I forgot the nose. (What a dumbass) Anyways, it looks better if you highlight it so that its black. Enjoy Fiends, enjoy! mis fits!misfits.. ........ Misfits.Misfits!.Misfits!!... Misfits!Misfits!Misfits!Misfits. Misfi- ''-ts!Misfits!Mis'':fits!.. ' ''Misfits!''' 'Misf it- s!Misf its!Mis fits. . Mis fits!Misf -its!! Misfi.. ts!Misfits!: :Misfit s!Misfits!Misfi' "tsMisfits!Misfi ts!Misfits!Mis fits!Misfits!Mi "'sfits!!!Mi sfits!Misfits!- '"'"Misfits!Misfits!Misfits''' mi'sfits!Misfits!Misf' '' "its!Misfits!Misfi ":. . """""'"'''"..""'" ts":" !Mi sf i-ts!Mi""' !! sfi' ts!!. .... .."' .!! 'Mis '"""""'."" " .fi' ts!Mi...s"" """.. ..fi.ts" "!Misfits!Misfits:!Misfi' ts!Misfits!Misfits!Mi' '"sfits!Misfits!Misf ":its!Misfits"' '""""' Tim Herrmann ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:14:13 -0500 (EST) From: asenath Subject: 1/31 danzig stuff i saw danzig and the electric hellfire club last friday... i missed the opening band, no big deal... EHC was really good, very tight, and i would say just as good as they were b4 their keyboardist died... danzig was really good, though i wish the vocals would have been just a little bit louder he opened with some black aria stuff then went into mother (bleh)... anyways the set list was pretty much the same as said before... after the show i waited around and talked to glenn... he was really cool and answered a lot ov questions for me... * the new ep is coming out this summer and will be called black angel? i think, something angel anyways (my ears were ringing) * the samhain boxset isn't ready and will have live stuff as well as video footage, glenn said he waiting on some stuff from london & damien * prophecy II will be out this summer, glenn said that it was cool working with christopher walken, and that he is "way out there" heh look who's talking * the followup to black aria will be called death dealer and will be out in march i think? * he will be going back to do NYC at the end ov the tour well anyways that is pretty much everything i may have gotten some ov tha dates mixed up but basically somethings comming out in march and everything else is coming out in the summer, 'cept for maybe the samhain boxset :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : every day is halloween... : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: The Heartbreak Kid's Grammar sucks! The HBK said this in M.B #291: Subject: put Captain Solo in the cargo hold > From: ChristoTer@aol.com > Stephen, out of curiosity, what color t-shirt and jeans were Glenn wearing? > I remember hearing the comment "this man has no colors in his closet", so if > it wasn't black, the band has lied! sniff sniff. I vaguely remember something about him not drinking coffee to....I mean "too"...I mean "either." > Cresswell, I believe the guy who does Rollins' tattoos is Rick Spellman. At > least the back one. As far as Glenn, I have no idea. Somewhere it said that Spellman did ALL of Henry's, Glenn's, and Eerie's tattooes, for free. I think it was Eerie who said this. Actually I think it is in EVB's FAQ on the Mark's homepage. > From: Christopher Wilson > If anyone is interested I made the coolest Danzig T-shirt out there.... > Front: White Shirt does anyone else see a fundamental problem with this idea? > From: "John B. Kendrick" > about, as Glenn stated, "woman to the tenth power". Glenn has also stated > that "Son of the Morning Star" is an anti-Farrakan(?) song. no, it is "White Devil Rise" that he said was anti-Farooq and anti-Nation of Domination...I mean anti-Farrakhan and anti-nation of Islam. -B.F. ------------------------------ From: ahren@thesea.com Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 23:59:41 -0800 Subject: American Psycho lyrics I'm sure that we all would appreciate it if someone could write up the lyrics to "American Psycho" and any other new tunes, and get them to Misfits Central. I would love to do it myself, but unfortunatly I haven't ever seen the Misfits live(no, I am not in prison...) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 1997 09:47:29 +0500 From: Cotter Tim MSM GRPP US Subject: Jeff Herrin xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx JEFF HERRIN(OF JEFF'S SALE 817-381-5430 OR 817-591-8799) TIME IS RUNNING OUT - WHERE'S MY STUFF OR MY MONEY. YOU CAN SEND EITHER TO ME. YOU SHOULD NOT SCREW PEOPLE ON THE BIBLE-YOU'LL RUIN THE ABILITY FOR OTHER LEGIT. PEOPLE SELL STUFF THROUGH THE BILBE. NO ONE WILL TRUST ANYONE SELLING THINGS. PLUS YOU COULD GET HURT. YOU BETTER HAVE MOVED OUT OF TEXAS AND YOU BETTER HOPE THE POST OFFICE DOESN'T HAVE FORWARDING ADDRESS. ANOTHER HINT- BETTER NEVER HAVE LISTED PHONE NUMBER AGAIN!! I STILL FIND YOU!! TIM xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:29:30 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Ann Freehafer <02459@udel.edu> Subject: Squirt #3 Okay everybody, listen up! It's time for the new issue of your favorite "magazine" SQUIRT! Even your dog'll lick it up! Lots of fabulous articles and of course pictures! Not a single contribution by yours truly! Send us your money ($4, plus $1 in stamps). SQUIRT P.O. Box 137 Cairnbrook, PA 15924 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:44:05 -0500 From: "Jason St. Jacques" Subject: European Fiends I was wondering if their are any Fiends from Switzerland, or anyone who lives close to Switzerland here? Please e-mail me if you are. J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 12:20:36 -0800 From: ryq Subject: Guitar March 1997 reprinted verbatim Guitar March 1997. ---- FAST TRACKS by Buzz Morrison DANZIG BLACKACIDEVIL (Hollywood) New record label, new band (gone is guitarist John Christ), new sound: That's the story of the noisy (there's nothing wrong with your stereo!), industrial BLACKACIDEVIL, and while Glenn Danzig's voice is often distorted beyond recognition, the music is typically creepy, if not all that impressive. The industrial rhythms sound recycled (which is part of the industrial methodology, I suppose), and Danzig's nascent guitar playing leaves you lusting to hear these 10 tracks (including a jazzy revamping of Black Sabbath's "Hand Of Doom") remade live by the band's latest hire, Prong vocalist/guitarist Tommy Victor. Alice In Chains' Jerry Cantrell contributes guitar to three tracks, which helps immeasurably. ---- a few things: 'nascent' means 'freshly emerging'. does this guy realize that Glenny did (my guess) 70-90% of the Samhain guitarwork and a small amount of uncredited work to Misfits and Danzig material? once again, the bassist gets ignored. Eerie added just as much to the Danzig sound as JC. 'jazzy revamping'? "Hand Of Doom" wasn't jazzy to begin with? :P also in the same issue, Kip Winger has a new album coming out March 4th, titled THISCONVERSATIONSEEMSLIKEADREAM. does everybody have name their albums with one long name. Kippy, Glenny, Pete Townshend... anyone know the release date of Motley Crue's GENERATION SWINE? ryq ------------------------------ From: lithium@cxo.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:09:42 -0500 Subject: OiOiOi First off, enough with this satanist shit, its stupid you are claiming to be such satanist then your like "Anton levey (sp?)" whats wrong, to lazy to look it up. and to that guy about the starwars 1138 sighting, "1138" isn't exactly 138, or did you hit the 1 key again on accident? and also, if anyone has any cool fits' posters, e-mail me if your wanting to sell them, i'm trying to start a collection. -=-=Sent via CONNECTions BBS. Contact Info below=-=- telnet://bbs.cxo.com (208.132.79.2) http://www.cxo.com/ Wichita, KS (316) 682-7346 Voice: (316) 682-5838 ------------------------------ From: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Cheap vinyl, answers and questions... tammy said: >>Boy we seem to have this idea fixed in our brains that if a Misfits or >>Samhain record is cheap - $50 or less its a bootleg. >I bought a black vinyl Initium w/o Caroline name or address and then Tarry said: >and a black vinyl Samhain III w/ lyrics and pictures for $3.99 >a piece at a store in Arlington, VA. to which I add: Yup, I got an Unholy Passion tan sleeve for $6 Canadian (about $4 US) and Three Hits From Hell for $50 Cdn. (about $35-$40 US) and they're both, as far as I can determine from Tammy's description's, completely authentic. Mind you, I got those... geez wow, it's been nearly four years now! I got them at "Rotate This" in Toronto. It's been picked over pretty thoroughly, but still it's worth a look. A pal of mine got a Cough/Cool boot for $7 Cdn. and a Beware (which he claims to be authentic) for $100 Cdn. there, too (the bastard bought the Beware the day before I was gonna go get it... !!!!). Des Roches asked: >1.what is vinyl? Webster Definition for "vinyl" vi.nyl\'vi-n-*1\ n [ISV, fr. L vinum wine] 1: a univalent radical CH2=CH derived from ethylene by removal of one hydrogen atom 2: a polymer of a vinyl compound or product made from one >2.what is it with 138? It's between 137 and 139. >3.why did glenn leave the misfits? 'Cause he was too short. Check the webpage silly, that's why it's there. At the end of every Bible it says... >For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: > http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ Christopher Wilson said: >Danzig's picture >Above it, it says, "Danzig" >Below it, it says, (in misfits font) "4'1" of Fury!" > >On the back it has the Danzig Skull, and above it, it says "SELLOUT" Why would you spend that much time and energy on someone you hate? D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca WWW: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ "God bless those pagans." -Homer Simpson ------------------------------ From: "Not the Best Hung Carrott In The Fridge" Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:00:07 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #291 Sorry About writing Again but i neglected to mention the contest fir the next issue of our magazine. Rules are as follows. Write 100 words ( alittle more a little less) About why you think that you are better then averybody in the Whole world. The prize is a subscription and other cool stuff staickers and shit like that. So send all your submissinos to me or mike our addressThe bets ones are going to be printed and a few others will be too! S odon't misss out on this terrible contest! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:38:50 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: dream band hi fiends, heres my dream band: vocals- dee snider guitar- kirk hammet bass- terry "hulk" holgan drums- animal (the muppet show) what's some of your dream bands, fiends? -steve- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. * * * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Steve Warren swarren@beothuk.swgc.mun.ca * * Sir Wilfred Grenfell College * * Corner Brook, Newfoundland Canada * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 04 Feb 97 20:10:49 EST From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #291 POST: RE: >>Anyone else have a problem buying stuff from Jeff Herrin-1701 W. Oak, >>Denton, TX 76201. It seems his phone has been disconnected. If he on this >>ist he better let me know if my stuff has been shipped or I will find >>him in Denton or Dallas(traveling is a perk of my job and Dallas area is >>mine). >>Tim I bought a bunch of singles from Jeff last month, 15 of them, and they all arrived fine, packaged well and insured. I would guess your stuff is on it's way. His address also has "Apartment #212" in it, so maybe that was part of the problem??? Paul Holstein ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:38:16 -0500 From: "MR. Poopy Pants" Subject: Glow in the dark t-shirts Anyone who has a glow-in-the-dark t-shirt should listen up. All others can scroll past. Okay those that stayed, to wash your t-shirt and not wreck it (other than doing it by hand), throw it in a pillow case along with other coloured shirts. As long as you wash it in cold water it should be fine. Obviously you have to hang it to dry. J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 22:37:44 +0500 From: "John B. Kendrick" Subject: New Rave Anyone know how I could get the issue of "New Rave" with Glenn and Crystal Gold on the cover? JB ------------------------------ From: MePhiSto78@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:10:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Glenn on the radio I am curious to know if anyone has a copy of Glenn's two hour appearance on the LoveLine radio show, where he previewed 2 songs, 7th house and sacrafice. i dont want to brag but i have it on tape, sooo......... 2 quick plugz: ANIMOSITY AND FM RADIO ASSAULT ARE FVKIN HERE: KEEP YOUR CHILDREN LOCKED INDOORS !!!!! i luv ya AA fiendishly Jordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:12:02 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: It just amazing to me... Hello fiends... first off, i see Tarry knows what i have been talking about. Amazing if you just took the time to look. You might actually save some money. Plus the only way i varify if its not a bootleg is the DANZIG challege. everytime i see Glenn i get a bunch of the record sleeves together and hand them over with a pen. so far only one out of the entire collection. Chris - what if Glenn was actually wearing 'BLUE' jeans? boy that would blow so many minds that he might just be human after all. ;) Matt - you are kidding aren't you? vinyl is a term for RECORDS , you know; 7", 12", 10" 45, 33 1/3, 78 all that stuff. ok we have said this once before if you don't know 138 then you just aren't going to get it. then i think AZ or D.ETH pointed out a while ago that if they told you, you would have to die after that. As for why Glenn left the Misfits, i think you need to go to a Danzig show and after the show is over to to the bus and ask Glenn yourself, i'm sure he would be glad to take the time and explain in detail why he left the Misfits. ;) (hey, we're fiends for a reason, remember.) Christopher Wilson - i think someone is going to point out that you ripped of their idea for a t-shirt. and if you think your the first PERmoronSON to say Glenn is a sell out then you need some serious help. By the way Brett your not the only one who is just playing and having a little laugh. oh yeah, someone was a little off on their horror the past issue or so. Night of the Ghouls is considered part 2 of Plan 9. Criswell is in this one too. it is also about raising the dead and or communicating with the dead. Misfits 101... Who to trust, more like Trust no one... well i see some of these pop up on the bible from time to time. does anyone know so and so he has not sent me and i can't get in touch with him. i've seen these for years in MRR(maximum rock and roll) and flipside. the nice thing about the bible is you don't have to pay to ask the question and later fry that person for ripping you off in the first place. i have gotten a lot of questions about, is this price ok for this record. it is hard to trust anyone you buy from and i can't say there is one record store or one person who will never screw you. even places i have bought from for years screwed up or screwed me some how. i have a DOA 7" i got in an auction, they never told me it did not have a sleeve, but they sent me a sleeve anyway. so i paid $20 for a very valuable DOA 7" Disco Sucks but the sleeve is for Prisoner. what the hell do i do with that. or you order something you are dying for and they tell you they lost it. and this is from some of the top record stores in the states. Well first ask around before you buy anything. ask about the person if its trade or a straight sale. i ask other traders i know, i've asked Mark and EVB about some people who have contacted me when they saw my wants on the collectors page. i don't know everyone and i don't pretend to. i know that there is a good chance that another collector might know them. if its a record store, i hate to say it but the safest way is with a credit card, at least you can get the company to deal with the store if they screw you. it is a catch 22 for sellers though, people like myself who sell records in auctions or straight sales like money orders since we know the buyer can't screw us with a check that might bounce. the record stores mail order is safe, especially if they are a place like Vinyl Ink and others that have long standing reputations. it is easy to burn them if they screw you and they can't afford that. the other part is knowing the records and that goes back to the detailing i did. you can't get screwed if you know what to look for, and ask all the questions you can about the record before you make the deal. i know you get excited about getting a shot at that original Misfits record, i've been there too. but you need to keep your trend of thought or you are dead meat, with numbers of people waiting to pounce on you. in MRR, its $4 for 60 words, which is nothing compared to what some of these guys can rip off from collectors who don't know what they are doing. plus i can't point this out enough, the ones who sell Misfits out of MRR and Flipside know all to well what they got and what it's worth. and some of them are collectors of the same. to them, new collectors are just a way to make some extra bucks, and big bucks at that. i knew a kid who was collecting back in 92. and was trying to go after some of the same items i was, different sellers and traders though. the money that this one guy wanted from him was ridiculous. plus i found it funny that i was not allowed to get a catalog or buy from this guy, he refused to sell me a Cough/ Cool cause i did not agree that it was worth giving him $350. he turned around and sold it to my friend. to them its who will give them the prices they ask for. you never have to agree, i never did. that is why you bargain. bargaining can be your best friend, it was mine when i got my color vinyl 7"s. so what if they think your a big pain in the ass, you didn't get ripped and pay their car payment for them did you. well till next time. and some more vinyl later. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Bible #292 unsubscribe Re: Misfits Bible #292 Re: Misfits Bible #292 just some stuff Skins4sale glenn at the troc? yngwie cumstain Adendum Yeah, Christ! European Sacrifice CD sigle fore trade Re: Misfits Bible #292 Motley Crue icons, etc. Stuff ADAM WEST is the reason adam west Danzig in T.O. Kryst the Conqueror Re: Misfits Bible #292 Interview Re: Misfits Bible #292 Sigh.... Danzig Toronto show They're no Danzig. THX 1138..... sorry fiends.. LOL European Sacrifice CD sigle fore trade Chuck in hell Shitheads everywhere... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.s.k" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 13:31:04 -0500 (EST) > From: Fay Beckman > Subject: So ChristoTer finally got what was coming to him . . . > > I saw in the last MB that the dude who took care of the blowhard > ChristoTer told his side of the story. It's about time somebody takes > action and makes ChristoTer his woman. He'll be in the outhouse passing > out suckjobs after this. I'm not sure what's going on with this Christoter thing, but he's a good guy, and there's no doubt about that. That's all I know. While I'm on the subject of good guys, I recently bought a specially made CD from misfit@dreamscape.com. If you've ever wanted to have personalized mix CDs, or you just want to put a lot of stuff you have on tape onto CD, contact him. For $16 a CD, you can't go wrong. > From: Misfit57@aol.com > Subject: Killing tonight > > have mentioned this already, but who cares. A while ago I was doing my > homework so that I'll be smart and my CD player(on random play at the time) > picked, "Mommy Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?" on Collection One. I listened > while working up until the part where all the music stops and the question is > asked, "Mommy Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?''. I stopped and listened > intenly and I heard a faint voice in the background, like one from a horror > movie perhaps(?). It is kind of hard to hear, but it is there, I couldn't > come up with another solution besides the character from a horror movie, and > I was wondering if antone else has heard it or if anyone knows whose/what's > voice it is. Respond if you care. rob It's Glenn. The band recorded the instrumental parts a few months before they did the vocals. They had Glenn time the pause after the music stops by yelling out the lyrics. Later, he sang that section again when he recorded the rest of the lyrics. Thus, you hear those lyrics twice. > From: MePhiSto78@aol.com > Subject: more misfits > > i would like to know if there is any way of telling the differance between a > black and a clear vinyl copy of the collection II ? i know for the others > there is a destinct place for the bar code, but where is it located for the > black or the clear (preferably the clear) i want to get it, but i want the Originally, the clear vinyl copies did not have any bar code sticker, although some were found with the sticker in the top right hand corner. Black vinyl copies also have the sticker in the top corner as well, so there is only one way to know - open it up. There were 500 clear copies put out in November of 1995. Black vinyl copies have been out since April 1996. It's probably safe to assume that the clear copies are long gone. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:46:24 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last he hehe Issue Art said: >Personally, I am waiting for a surf album by Glenn. He can get >Dick Dale to play guitar. Now THAT would be cool. He could call it "Danzig >6, HangTenwiththeDevil" HAHAHAHAHH - that's the funniest thing I've seen here in a while. nick winkleback asked (politely): >I have the first pressing Caroline Misfits box set and I've >noticed something rather odd about the Static Age CD: It seems you have >to break it to open it, since the whole blasted thing seems fused >together. Does anyone have any thoughts/suggestions on this? It's funny that you referred to the "box" as a first press. Caroline pressed so many goddamn copies of the thing that I'm sure it will be around for quite some time. To get the Static Age cover to open. Lay it in one hand with the back (the side with the track listings) facing you. Then simply apply light pressure to the Caroline logo while pushing it away from you. The back is inset on tracks and slides out. There is some molding flash in there and the first two or three times you open it it's kinda hard but after it wears away it's pretty easy. Tim somebody or other said the following in response to HBK's grammar lesson re: to, too & two: >Notice the use of "foo". Is that in place of "fool"? Or "four"? Or >most likely "for"? >Next time think logically, and don't correct someone until you >know that you yourself are. Okay, jackass? Speak for yourself asswipe. HBK made a friggin' typo, he was complaining about people using the wrong words (a different animal all together). Let's take a look at your grammar Tim: >Notice the use of "foo". - ok good >Is that in place of "fool"? - Is *what* in place of fool? (improper subject) >Or "four"? - Sentences should never start with a conjunction and the bonus..... >Next time think logically, and don't correct someone until you >know that you yourself are. Until you know that you yourself are what? You're using the word 'correct' as a verb. You need to add a second instance of the word 'correct' at the end of the sentence (an adverb). Please let's end this foolish thread with this. We *ALL* make mistakes when we type something up fast. Brett's original post about to, too, & two, was reasonable. The consistant use of incorrect wording makes a post *very* hard to read. On the other hand, a typo is easy to overcome. Really Tim I think you're quite over the top with this. ps. I don't give a fuck if I made any mistakes, so don't bother....;-) Crimson Ghost - othello@magicnet.net .From the Funken Cyclo-P-dia: Funkadelia - Throbassonic realm where nothing is good unless you play with it and all that is good is nasty. A ParliaFunkadelicment Thang... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:36:21 -0500 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Violent World Alert! I was in a record store last nite and 'Violent World' was on the shelf! The release date of Feb. 11 is wrong! Go get your copy now! Did I buy one? No. I didn't get paid until today. You know where I am after work. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:55:11 +0000 From: Julian Baldry In the last Bible AZ Wrote: >>Tommy needs to stop smiling. There is no reason to smile on stage >>when playing Danzig. Your supposed to look evil and pissed off. Yeah right... last I heard, (non faked) smiling was an involuntary reaction to a joyful or happy experience... How awful it is then that Tommy Victor obviously enjoys playing music with Glenn Danzig, what with being in the same band and everything it must be terrible for them both. Maybe none of them look 'evil and pissed off' these days because they have some new, decent material to play and there's no Yngwie-wannabe in the band... just a thought. ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Jeff's Not A Crook Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:08:00 -0500 I know there are a bunch of people out there who are waiting for stuff from JEFF HERRIN. For whatever it is worth, I also bought some records from him and got them within a week. I don't think he would screw everyone except me. Don't get me wrong...there is nothing worse than waiting for records to come. In speaking of autions...once again I would like to commend KEVIN FINN on another awesome auction. Later, Mark B. Oh yeah, I am still looking for another Yellow Horror Business w/ lyrics and second press Bullet. Let me know if you have these because I know someone that wants these BAD. ------------------------------ Date: 5 FEB 97 11:54:03 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: batmobile Steve Warren mused "does anyone know where i can get the old batmobile? the car i'm driving now is shit. " Scott Chinery, a world famous guitar collector, has one of the original Batmobiles (there were 3). He lives in Toms River, NJ. Give him a call, maybe he and you can work out a deal? :) AZ ------------------------------ Date: 5 FEB 97 11:57:00 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: USA David Cook said "Well, I live in the USA, and I say that it is all bullshit. >I say that there is no real freedom, and that the government is facist." You are an angry young man with a spelling problem. :) AZ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:10:30 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Ann Freehafer <02459@udel.edu> Subject: RE: Glenn at the Troc??? Are you serious? Glenn says that he can't stand Rancid and all that new school punk rock, and unless Lars didn't go onstage until 3 in the morning then Glenn would have had to be two places at once. Come on guys, he's NOT the devil. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 09:11:39 -0800 From: Fay Beckman Subject: WHAT? > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 10:55:04 -0800 > From: Fay Beckman > Subject: So ChristoTer finally got what was coming to him . . . > > I saw in the last MB that the dude who took care of the blowhard > ChristoTer told his side of the story. It's about time somebody takes > action and makes ChristoTer his woman. He'll be in the outhouse passing > out suckjobs after this. > um, pardon me, but what the FUCK is with this?? i didnt write that. ------------------------------ From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine2" Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:18:37 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 Dear mr Nick Winkle back. You are stupid All you have to do is push it up Not break it.Dumb ass Thats Cool! huh! Huh! ------------------------------ From: fennellw@tony.bc.edu Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 13:21:49 -0500 Subject: hulk hogan bass- terry "hulk" holgan well well well someone else likes skankin' pickle ------------------------------ Subject: Sellouts or the talentless From: J SIN of ANGELSIN Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 13:37:24 EST The reason this post is late is because I've been away and I'm just reading them now -------------Chris Wilson What is your problem? Why is Glenn a sellout? Lets not jump on the bandwagon or anything, Chris. Did he sell out because his music style changed, or because he's short. I fucking LOVE EVERYTHING THAT GLENN HAS EVER PUT OUT, but honestly , wouldnt he get a little boring if he didnt change the music? I guess Glenn sold out when he released BULLET EP, Earth AD, INITIUM, DANZIG 1, DANZIG4P, and DANZIG 5. Why bother coming on this bible if you dont like Glenn. Dont get me wrong I love and worship Glenn, Jerry, Doyle John Christ, Chuck, but if it wasnt for Glenn (and Mark) there would be no Misfits bible. Chris, I really hope you are not one of those guys who thinks a band (or Person) is a sellout if they become famous. My main goal in life is to become famous, not for $ or girls but so everyone can hear my music and I can get my point across, how am I gonna do that if I am only known as a "Local Legend" or in other words, "I have no talent so I'll be cool in my home town 'cause thats the only place I can get any respect"..... just an excuse. If you trult knew what you were talking about you wouldnt have bothered making a stupid ass shirt. Sorry if that was long but ignorance pisses me off. ---------D.EVIL ^^^Why would you spend so much time making a shirt of someone you hate? VERY good point. SINcerely J-SIN ......Damn me father, for I have SINned P.S. Where is the DENMOM(OMANIA)? I miss her stories. COMEBACK Patricia. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 10:41:28 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 14:02:27 -0500 > From: zycki > Subject: random 'fits related thoughts > >From: Inzo > >Subject: Most fabulous 138 sighting of all time > > > >Ha, you slippy monkeys, I have found the most bestest 138 sighting and > >it's 20 years old! I went to see the new Star Wars last night. I was > >paying attention for new scenes, and I came across an old scene that was > >the most exciting for me. I never new this... > > > >When Han and Luke take Chewy to the detention block to rescue the > >Princess, The guard says "What is thisssss thing??????" > > > >Luke says "Prisoner tranfer from cell block 1138." > > > >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH The Empire must be Misfits fans. :| > > Isn't Inzo the millionth person to mention this? Obviously his knowledge of > Star Wars is minimal. Almost everyone knows it is an inside reference to > THX1138 [his previous work]. Now with the re-release, this will bury the SBTB > "sighting" as most annoyingly mentioned 138 reference. > Look my brother, My knowledge of Star Wars is not minimal. I've been into The trilogy since I was little. I remember going to the theatre opening night of Return of the Jedi, when I was 7 yrs old. Up in my clost is every original Star Wars figure, most of them are in extremely good condition. I have them all but Luke in Stormtrooper disguise, Han in Carbonite, and Yak Face. I also have all the new ones. I have not watched Star Wars since I got into the Misfits. I started listening to them in October of 1995. Yeah not that long ago, but believe me, I'm into it. So, when I watched it, I came across that line. Why does that make my knowledge minimal? I guess you don't know that I collect sci fi movies? I have THX-1138 you nerf herder!!! When I was little I was in the Star Wars fiend club. So don't say my knowledge is minimal, I know someone who went to Skywalker ranch to personally meet George Lucas. I've been reading this bible for a year and have never seen a post about what I posted. I've mainly been hearing about Saved By the Bell and Jimmy Heart. SO my post is the most annoying? I've heard about the Saved by the Bell sighting about 12 times. I've never seen this one. and the rescently posted American Graffiti liscense plate sighting is new to me. I noticed this, you swine, when Luke gets knocked back and R2 plays him the message, did you notice Lukes Skyhopper in the background? I just noticed that. This was weird, I ordered Invaders From Mars from 1-800-4-Movies cuz I couldn't find it anywhere and Suncoast video (they don't rent, they sell) said it was out of print. Anyway, the one I got was generic and had no box. Yesterday I went to the New Blockbuster in town (every video store, even if they're the same name, all have not the same items) and the had for sale, two copies of Invaders From Mars, The copyright was 1996 so it must've just been reissued. This was a real surprise. It's on Goodtime Home Video and the catalog number is 05-08827. I also picked up a childhood favorite, War Of The Worlds and I also got Dawn Of The Dead. Oh, 1-800-4-movies charged me 20.00 bucks and I didn't even get a box, Blockbuster had it for $9.99. Zycki, you may say that my knowledge of THX-1138 is minimal, I only watched it once, it was very boring. Don't try to front on me again. I'll put a bounty on your head so big, every bounty hunter in the galaxy will be after you. http://www.ecis.com/~mikei/index3.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 13:47:01 -0500 From: Villnave Subject: Danzig in Buffalo, my story Well I saw Danzig in Buffalo on the 4th and here is how it was... The first band Powerman 5000...WOW! Where did they find these guys , in the line trying out to be in korn? These guys were the biggest wiggers I've ever seen in my life! I couldn't tell if they were covering Korn or Rage or each member playing something from each band's songs. They fucking sucked!!! Basically everyone was walking around doing nothing while they were playing and this one guy who looked exactly like Glenn (huge fan I take it) got dragged out by security trying to get these guys off the stage. Entertaining. They didn't play long but it seemed like forever and they had the bass drum miced and processed so it was that deep thud bass like rap or something. Not good on the ears! I got the hell away from these idiots! Then comes Electric Hellfire Club. While I could have made the music on a little Rapmaster Keyboard from radio shack I kinda dug these guys. I mean..they were at least different and definitely not wiggers...not mainstream. They were new and different. Fruity ass pop songs with satanic lyrics...good fun to me..if I wasn't waiting for Danzig. The chick they had dancing was pretty hot and her tits were just popping out of this thing. She was looking at me and pointing and shit and damn did I want to slam her head into a wall and spank her... hmm..but anyway.. an entertaining experience. But you have to understand..the bass drum was pre-programmed..and the drummer hit 4 pads...2 toms, snare, cymbal, and he'd jump around and hit them and occasionally miss. The keyboardist did normal keyboard/samples, the singer had a British accent a little and the guitarist just played the easiest guitar parts I have ever seen! And the chick..well.. did what she was supposed to do I think ;) They finally left in full satanic robing ripping up a bible yelling hail Satan.. Then overture comes on... Tommy comes out and is running around getting the crowd going.. then I see Castillo's shadow..and damn..when did he get so huge! I see Lazie sneaking out . Then Overture ends and I see Glenn run out, stand in the middle of the stage, and point out. The PACKED club went insane. I know everyone's been saying attendance is low but this place was capacity (more) and it was a big place. Some people couldn't even see the stage. They played Mother and Glenn was going so nuts he wasn't even singing. He was just ripping around like a madman! Tommy was smiling...Does he do a lot of drugs or something? He seemed a bit..high. Glenn was intense the entire show and just didn't stop. The crowd was real violent and Glenn was pushing the crowd more and more. The new songs sounded good! Better than I thought they would and the old stuff was good but again, John and Eerie would have been nice but oh well. I can't see John playing Blackacidevil to be honest anyway so..whatever. Tommy seemed to Marilyn-Mansonize the Long Way Back .From Hell solo. Lazie looked really into it and did a great job on bass. Glenn seemed happy and intense up there. More so than in 95 with John,Joey,and Eerie. They seemed to have pre-recorded intros to 7thHouse and other new ones just played, which is ok, but I was wondering what they were gonna do live. Her Black Wings started with this sort of techno beat going it was kind of odd, but it worked once the beat kicked in. The drumming was very good and he was hitting HARD. Glenn jumped down twice with audience, shaking hands etc. I got to him cause I was in the front but man this started a riot! He was pointing at one guy in the audience who was a lamer and said "how ya doin gomer pile".. It was so funny cause this guy looked like him. The guy was motioning Glenn to come down, almost menacingly. Then Glenn made a gun with his hand and "shot" him. One thing I noticed is Glenn's vocals should have been louder but at the front and center of the stage you don't hear the PA as much as the onstage shit anyway. His voice is so strong I could actually hear him above everything when he was close to me. He threw out his necklace, starting another riot..same with his water. The show just fucking rocked.. They left after Long Way Back From Hell and came back out to do She Rides and Snakes of Christ. After the set he introduced the new members and everyone gave each one applause and they place just got loud with yells of "danzig rules".. Tommy threw out souvenirs after the shoe and Lazie jumped into the crown and landed half on me. Here's the songs that were played with a brief review of each one (no I don't remember the order) Mother- So intense he didn't even sing. Being down here front and center redefined pain for me once again. Crowd was singing louder than the band was playing. Sacrifice-When this went into the chorus it rocked! The strobes were going nuts and the crowd just erupted. Glenn was all over the place. Blackacidevil-Started out with the beginning being played over the PA then Joey kicked in. The guitar seemed undefined..as Tommy played whatever he wanted. There were distortions on Glenn's voice in this, but no other songs. I distinctly saw him signal the distortion, and then heard it.. so it was there. Hint of her blood-This was one of my favorites. The lights were low and he made it like he was telling a story using his hands to tell it . Tommy was putting in these little guitar licks that I didn't care for, but, Glenn didn't get distracted so I guess it's with permission. I got the impression Glenn let them do what they wanted. Deep- This fucking rocked. The bass was LOW and the lights were down. When they went into the chorus it was just powerful. Glenn was whipping all around and Tommy was doing some cool licks on the guitar.. He introduced it as the one from the X-files Soundtrack, Deep. Twist of Cain- This got the crowd more excited than any other. It just rocked. The front of the crowd looked like the crowd in the old videos, headbanging and such, fists in the air. She Rides-For some reason the crowd was into this least, I dug it cause a few chicks got topless. Besides this was always one of my favs. Long Way Back From Hell- They played it real fast and hard and the Glenn put a foot on the monitor and sang the choruses, in the other parts he ran around. Again, I didn't like the solo much, but he is not John Christ. Snakes of Christ- This was really fast. The crowd was singing loud. Her Black Wings- Started with some techno beat but kicked in normal. IT was played really fast, and before the bitch line Glenn stopped and put he mic down and just Grinned at the audience and got them going. Dirty Black Summer- This rocked.. enough said. Again, played fast. Left Hand Black- Glenn looked really evil in this song and a lot of people dug it. I had never heard them play this before live so it was a treat. Until You Call On The Dark- This was the 3rd song played and they played this TOO fast in my opinion. Glenn was still running around so much and head banging he let the audience to the singing, who was louder than the band anyway. Bringer of Death- The pit was huge! They played it fast and HARD and Glenn went down and let my area sing the Bringer of Death lines. Before the fast part Glenn put the mic down and kneeled at the front of the stage pointing at the audience laughing evilly with this evil look on his face and was nodding his head. He wanted to see some skulls rolling around after this I think. The place went INSANE. It was the best.. So fucking violent..the way it should have been. 7th House- I was waiting for this cause it just kicks my ass. I hear the beginning being played over the PA as Glenn drank some water, and then it just erupted. It just kicked the whole place's ass! When he went into the Chorus It was louder than anything I ever heard in my life, both strobes went on and every other light in the club. It was like looking at the sun and Glenn was flipping out! I have never seen him this intense ever before in my life. It was just the best... my fav of the night! It's Coming Down-This was hard hitting. Castillo impressed me on the drums on this and Glenn put out the mic letting us sing the chorus. This was fast but it just rocked! That's the show as far as I remember it. I keep using the same words. fast,hard,intense. The new band is great and I look forward to them coming back. I don't what the problem is everywhere else but they just kicked my ass. My ears are still ringing loud ass hell at 2pm the day after. Til next show Villnave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 13:52:34 -0500 (EST) From: Leah Justis Subject: blah, blah, blah you fill in the blanks... 1st-you COULD just break open your static age cd, but 1st you may want to try sliding off the back. 2nd-I don't think Glenn was at the troc. He was at the show till at least one so unless it was really really late that H20 went on...He could have gone before Danzig's set but I doubt it. 3rd-Mommy. Do you think that there's a voice before or after it says that? Now if it was a tape of Michale, it would probably just be him telling everyone to quit saying it before he does. That really busts his chops, did anyone ever notice? 4th-to John Kendrick, get a copy of the magazine and back order it. My friend Emily did the same thing so she should be able to tell you how to order it actually. her address is 03651@udel.edu I think. 5th-Glenn didn't leave the misfits because he was too short. He left because everyone else was too tall. Leah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:13:58 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Vondur!! Hi, my name is Neil McAllister, and I just wanted to get on the Misfits Bible to make this statement: I WORSHIP SATAN. You puny weaklings that claim you worship Satan, I will kill you and then piss on your grave!! I am angry now!! Yes, very angry indeed!! I exist only to spread evil and hatred!! You will feel my wrath -- Neil McAllister carries a BIG KNIFE!!! There was no A-Bomb detonated in Hiroshima, it was me belching after I drank the blood of Christians!!! I will burn your churches with Lucifer's Tabasco Sauce!!! Neil McAllister worships Satan!! Neil McAllister HATES YOU!! And remember, there are no nuclear weapons -- there is only VONDUR!!!! NEIL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:38:57 -0800 From: Grandpa Atomic Subject: Record Collecting Tips Hi. I'm relatively new to the Misfits Bible, but I've noticed people asking questions about collector stuff, and I've been collecting for quite some time, and having dealt with tons of sleazies and tons of folks on the up-and-up, I'm going to try to help you people not get screwed with a few tips, if Tammy already said them, I'm sorry (maybe I'll even manage to put some Misfits info in here too!) First of all, people who advertise in MRR and Flipside do know what they're talking about, but more than a few of them have a reputation to uphold. Guys like Ryan Richardson and Jukka Sateri and Nathalie V. advertise pretty much every month with "Tons of punk rock mega-rarities". This would give you the assumption they're on the level. Some are...I've traded with all three of the above and gotten my stuff, but I would still watch out. These people are putting themselves in the public spotlight, and leaving a trail, so here's a few ways to make sure you get the trade done: 1) This is pretty basic, but if the address is a PO Box or a company name, not a person's name or home address, there is a better chance you're gotta get had. For example if the place is called "77 Records" at "P.O. Box 400" or something, that's not giving you a persons name or a real address where you can reach them...when you send something again, don't be surprised to get return mail. 2) Try to get a phone #. And don't just use it as a back-up. I'm paranoid when I'm sending Crap Detectors records through the mail, and I want to make sure everything goes down well. I will call the number first. I make sure the person is there, and I talk to them. However, if you really want to be safe, don't stop there. Look them up in a phone directory, and see if the number and address are the same by their name as the ones they told you they were. If this all goes down smoothly, at least you know where they are so you can contact them if they rip you off. 3) Even if the records actually go in the mail, it's important to make sure they send them properly and for decency, you should send them properly too. Go to a place like (where I am) Mailboxes Etc. These people are great. They helped me pick out the right packages, get the right stuff in the actual box, insure the package correctly, and gave me a good timeframe of when the stuff will get there. Everytime I've used them my stuff has gotten to the reciepient as good as it was sent. The Postal Service works too, but they're more crowded and less personable. Support Mom and Pop stores if you have any around you (I don't). Make sure you reach a shipping agreement with the other person as well, and make your position felt on it. And if you're sending a package, and it's insured and registered, you got proof ya sent it, no-lose situation. 4) NEVER RUSH. Always take precautions. A questionable judgement I've seen some people make is to only do "You send first". This can lead people to not want to trade with you, but if you inform people this is the only way you do it and provide about eight zillion good refrences (make sure their screen names aren't all @aol.com too if you're doing internet)...new traders obviously can't do this (don't forge refrences, even if you intend to send, it only gets you into trouble...) but people who've been around the block can obvious do this. 5) This might seem obvious, and it's ill-placed as a "Last step" but come on people, don't forget to research what you're getting. What if it's a bootleg? Not the promised black/purple swirl vinyl? WHAT IF YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET IT!? Before you say "Aw nuts" and run around mailing lists and classifieds posting "I'm gonna get this bastard!" notes (which just encourage him to bunker up and hide)...what do you do? Well, if you checked up on the phone # and such like I told you, call them up at 3 AM. "Where's my record!" A week of that oughtta get the record out...no, but seriously, here are some "I been ripped off, whadda I do?" tips, that I've seen work. a) Got any friends or contacts who live near this guy? Show up at his house. "Hello, I'm looking for this record." That at least has him knowing you're serious. b) Inquire with those friggin' cops or with the postal service. Not getting what you agreed to is mail fraud, over state lines, which is a big no-no in the law's eyes. c) Get into contact with him somehow. If you didn't get his phone #, write the letter again. I'm sorry to say this, but with a PO Box or with no-name on the person, your chances are SLIM of finding your stuff, so always be careful. If it's PO Box or no-name, send a few pre-letters first...dig up some dirt for a back-up in case he rips you off. But mail frauders deserve whatever you think of to do to them! d) If the person is in a public spotlight or is a big trader, hose their reputation. If they ripped you off, the least you can do is to warn others not to send to this address. Again, PO Boxes can be changed, and they can use their friends' address, but if you explain to people what happened they can be wary not to get ripped off. A bad trader list is floating out there somewhere...I have my own "Trading Blacklist" which is currently two pages long... I may have repeated a lot of important points there, but the basics exist...trading by mail does include some element of risk...you gotta watch out. As for trading at conventions...here, if you get ripped off, you're gonna get ripped off by a bad deal, not by no records. Record collecting is a risky buisness folks...bootlegs come out ALL THE TIME and some collectors can shag you with bands you never heard of or supposed "ultra-rare" bootlegs that are about as rare as the new Nirvana CD. The best way to avoid this is to have an expierienced collector friend with you who knows the ropes. Not everyone knows someone like this (I don't make house calls ;O) ) but if you can find someone who knows what's what, try to get their help. Make a list before you go. You know what you want. This way you can at least usually dodge duds. If the guy has the thing you want but he's trying to get you to take something else...that something else generally isn't worth as much...few collectors try to offload anything good. Beware of sweet-talk and also beware of the sharks. They have a few tactics they'll use. They'll try to confuse you with all the stuff they have. They'll try to convince you this or that is ultra-rare or ultra-valuable...don't get stuck with the newest print run of Live at Buff Hall when you could've gotten NNB. Also, a new favirote trick is to have one of their friends come up in disguise and comment on the trade. Don't listen to passerbys. Who cares what they think? Before you go, if at all possible, at least find out about the print runs and distinguishing marks. For example, telling the difference between some originals and some bootlegs is near-impossible. If you have no consience, it doesn't matter...if you can't tell the difference you'll find someone else out there who can't either, and you'll get your money back, but if you want the original, make absolutely sure you know what it looks like. Use your head. It helps. Also, if all you really want is the music, this is another no-brainer, it doesn't matter what the hell print run you get. Yeah, people are insane for paying $500 for a Misfits record first printing when they could get the new version for $5, or pay $60 and get that record plus 100 other songs, but that's collecting, isn't it? And remember, there is no definitive price on punk records in record collecting. There isn't a "Scum 'Zine" that comes with a price guide and info on every rare record out there (it would be nice, but it doesn't exist...yet, but don't expect it...there's a reason most record collectors are called scum)...somebody might ask you $75 for a Baloneyheads record (I wouldn't pay much more than that if I were you [I paid $10 two years ago before it made Bloodstains!]) but I just saw one yesterday for $230...prices go all over the place. There is generally a decent price for this records...supply and demand. Cough/cool / She is worth so much because there are hundreds of thousands of Misfits fans and at least a few thousand want this record, of which 500 were printed and probably at least 100 have been seriously marred by time, going up to a possible 300, who knows? Nobody really. And price doesn't dictate how good the music is most of the time. Hugh Beaumont EP, first printing, can go for up to $350. The music's subpar. If you want to hear what all this old crap sounds like before you buy/trade, look up collections on labels like Grand Theft, Captain Oi!, and EV, or check out the Back To Front, Killed By Death (not the new ones as much...they're getting bad!) or the Bloodstains comps...they have plenty of great songs by some great bands. You can go your whole life listening to great music never paying more than $15...it's just us crazy completists and our insatiable curiousity and Cringe envy that keeps us going. If you wanna trade with me...thousands of old rare records, blah blah, KBD, UK, Finland, Japan, European, Australian, US, South American, and Canadian, hardcore, punk and even a little new wave (I'm sorry, it snuck in there through early trades) stuff from 1975 to 1997...send me your want list, I'll send you mine, I haven't got a full list up now. Or if you got any questions, e-mail me, I'll try to help you out. Also, I'm looking for any tapes/vinyl of the NEW Misfits...I only saw them twice and have one tape...I need more stuff, and that new album when it hits the streets. Good luck, GRAMPS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 16:24:51 -0500 From: hardcore mofo Subject: this list isnt hardcore i thought people on here were supposed to be hardcore? I must say i am very dissapointed to see a lot of talk about wrestling and see no one mention ECW. WATCH ECW....BUY A BWO SHIRT..and watch SABU kick TAZ's ass all over the ECW ARENA on april 13 live only on pay per view through Request TV for only 19.95. ------------------------------ Subject: VINYL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From: Sean p DiSomma Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 18:07:46 EST >Subject: VINYL SALE!!!!!!!!! >From: Sean p DiSomma >Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 17:44:37 EST > >Here is what i have from back in my old days in Paramus and it is time to >part with them. I just joined so here is mt stuff and prices: > >Cough/Cool Blank Records: 450 >Who Killed Marilyn purple/black swirled:400 >Collection II clear- 25 send me youre offer if you are interested. i figured these would be decent prices if they are way too much or little let me know please. For the record my friend doesnt have much money and we share a juno account. please send anything to his adress not my aol email adress. i dont wanna be a part of this cause im not a big trader/collector. if you wanna email just HIM title it GREG and then ure subject. thanx sean NOT greg thanx GreG ------------------------------ From: "Lisa, Joe or Matt Pendleton" Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:14:25 -0800 Subject: MISFITS I have asked this Question like 20 times and I never got a straight answer. does anyone know if the Misfits are going to play southern cal. after they play in europe in april? Also if any fiends have irc come talk to me. HELL OF SATANS PACK HELLHOUND ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:54:42 -0330 (NST) From: Shaun Young Subject: nightmare band!! since this is a MISFITS list and everyone here worships satan and stuff and i guess are relly mean to thier moms and all that shit i figured i'd write my NIGHTMARE BAND....here goes fiends! vocals: rod stuart 1st guitar: bruce springsteen 2nd guitar: bobby steele bass: ben matlock keyboards: elton john drums: jessy from "full house" i would relly love not to ever see these idiots get a band together!!!! imagine that? they could call themselves....any suggestions??? sunapireye ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:55:17 -0500 From: Chris Schwarz Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 At 10:52 AM 05/02/97 -0500, you wrote: >=20 >Misfits Bible, Number 292 >=20 >Wednesday, February 5th 1997 'Lo peoples! I'm new to the Misfits Bible, but not new to the Misfits. Brief= introduction: My name's Chris (M/19) and I'm crazy about the Misfits (as= most of the people on this list are)! I've been listening to the Misfits= for roughly two years, and after first hearing their music it didn't take= me long to formulate an opinion on them - quite frankly, they're one of the= best bands I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. I've been reading= through past issues of the Bible and there was some talk of what it would= be like if the Misfits were to record all their songs over again, but with= better production. Well, to me, that would be a dream come true. (Sounds= corny, but hey, 'tis true...). I have a couple o' things I'd like to get= out in the open, though...=20 First, I don't know how many Bible subscribers skateboard, but you should= find this interesting anyway. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen= the skateboards with Misfits designs on the decks? There's a skateboard= company called Scarecrow that specializes in putting horror graphics on= their decks. They put creepy designs, lettering, etc. on their boards. = Anyhow, they've put out these decks that have Misfits designs on them. I= was leafing though a copy of Thrasher magazine awhile back and there was a= Scarecrow advertisement for their Misfits decks. In the ad, Jerry (I'm= sure it was him) was all dressed up in his stage-show garb, wearing a black= leather vest with huge spikes on the shoulders and stuff. He was holding= up a deck and it had a close-up facial shot of the Crimson Ghost with the= famous "Misfits" lettering above it. It looked cool! There's a different= design too. It's a deck with the "Die, Die My Darling" picture (the one= where the skeleton hand is holding the glass of champagne/wine and you see= the woman's half-skull face through it) on it. I thought the designs were= pretty neat. =20 Second, I have another Misfits sighting to report - another to add in the= many other sightings people have recalled seeing. This particular= sighting, however, was seen, of all places, on the Ricki Lake show! (C'mon= - we all get sucked in once in a while!). The episode I saw dealt with= relationships gone sour and there was this "punk couple", I guess you could= say, on the show. The male partner was wearing a black leather jacket and= he had a safety pin through his nose. Here's the thing: the female was= wearing a black Misfits t-shirt. It was the one with the close-up facial= shot of the Crimson Ghost, but without any lettering. (You know the one= I'm talking about!). I've heard some people refer to that t-shirt as the= "old" one, though I don't know if it is. The last thing I'd like to say (phew!) is actually a question. I was= talking to a fellow Fiend and were discussing the Misfits' "Collection= albums" - you know, Collection I and II. I have Collection I. I asked my= Fiend Friend about Collection II and he told me that it is HEAPS better= than Collection I. He said Collection II contains "their best songs" and= stuff. My question is: is that true? Does Collection II really put= Collection I to shame? I know this isn't really a do-or-die question, but= I've been thinking about getting Collection II based on the account of what= that Fiend told me. It would be helpful if someone could break down the= differences between I and II for me. You know, kind of like a "pros and= cons" type thing. Thanks! By the way, this is old, but here's my 20 song set list:=20 "Static Age" / "Astro Zombies" / "Night Of The Living Dead" / "London= Dungeon" / "Green Hell" / "Skulls" / "I Turned Into A Martian" / "Attitude"= / "Last Caress" / "Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight?" / "Halloween" /= "She" / "Where Eagles Dare" / "Hollywood Babylon" / "Some Kinda Hate" /= "Angelfuck" / "Bullet" / "Teenagers From Mars" / "Horror Business" / "Who= Killed Marilyn?" Chris Schwarz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 16:31:21 -0800 From: Claudette Piper Subject: unsubscribe Well, after what seems like forever of this thing piling up in my mailbox and never getting read, I've decided to unsubscribe. I'm not quite sure what used to be so interesting about this thing but whatever it was, it is no more. Don't get me wrong, though, I still love the Misfits... so if anyone's got anything cool to sell, please e-mail! I would still love to get videos of the following '96 shows: Action Park any CT shows Middle East Club as well as the KTC tape, which I've yet to hear (but do I want to?!) Thanks... EAP ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:07:46 -0600 (CST) From: nick winkleback Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 Heya, Just wanted to say thanks to all the fiends who offered their support. To the person who called me nuts, here is a bit more of an explanation: While I own the box set, I don't physically have it in my grasp. A friend who manages a record store back home ordered it for me and had my permission to open it when he recieved it. So, he was the nutzy one and I was only trying to help him and keep his hammer the hell away from my CD! Heh. Thanks again for your help, peoples. Nick ------------------------------ From: JMF9081@ritvax.isc.rit.edu Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 21:28:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 ok you guys gotta stop ragging on danzig. I'm one fan who actually likes (no loves!) his new album. He didn't "sellout" or become something he's not. he just progressed to a new style of music he wanted to try, and dammit he did a good job. I just saw him play last night and he did a great show! He's still the same old Danzig, he's just got new songs. I just wish i was the guy who got Glenn's neclace when he threw it out (i did grabb it but it flew outta my hand, dammit) by the way i think musicians should smile more, it would let us know that they're no robots, and they're actually having fun. jbat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 22:35:26 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Patton IV" <"tpatton@intrex.net"@rtp1.intrex.net> Subject: just some stuff Well HBK, I did't mean to look too stupid by voicing my opinions. Also, thanks for the grammer lesson, how would I ever survive in the real world without that. Incidently, you spelt wrestling wrong. Hum. Anyway, does anybody know (which everyone probably does, but anyway) that in Vampira, the Misfits refer to "Graverobbers from Outer Space" which was changed by Ed Wood to Plan 9 from Outer Space before it was released. But I've never seen Plan 9 listed anywhere as an influence on the song only the label. Also, since the 'Fits commisioned Basil Gogos for the Maxsxmas shirt, does anyone know if they're planning to release the Max's album in the future? BTW, I like how Tammy ends all her posts. I think it sounds cool. L8R...Rebel Angel. ------------------------------ Subject: Skins4sale From: J SIN of ANGELSIN Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 23:00:07 EST To all you little Googies and C.H.U.D.s, I NEED $ and I am selling my drumkit it is a black 5pc. TAMA Rockstar DX. Equip. is as followes:(All cymbals Zildjian) Pair of New Beat HI-HATS 16-17-18 inch rock crash 10 inch splash 20 inch Z Power Ride 8 inch. Splash(Sabian) 3 boom stands 1 straight stand 1 hihat stand 1 snare stand 1 tom stand(optional) Gibralter bass pedal Xtra floor tom BEATO drum Bags Humes and Berg Hardware case Zildjian cymbal vault $2,500.00(OBO) Price is MORE than reasonable. EMail me to let me know. Sorry for the long post. SINcerely, J-SIN ........Damn me father, for I have SINNED ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:26:09 -0500 (EST) From: asenath Subject: glenn at the troc? what time was he supposedly there? he was signing autographs till like 1:30 at the eectric factory... a girl, glenns woman? was running around before he came out to do autographs and was bitching because they had t be somewhere in 45 minutes... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : every day is halloween... : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:52:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: yngwie cumstain ryq said: well what do you expect from one of these magazines. they've never been up on "punk" or anything like it. i recall an issue where they said the first misfits album was "she/who killed marilyn" and stated the misfits were from la. the fact that they've ignored pleantly of guitarist like daniel ash, and other punk/new wave guys to report on what steve vai and yngwie are doing ( and still do today) is sad. but oh, well. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:25:45 -0500 From: Scott Perry Sorry Mark, but I have to agree with Steve Gorny on the idea of boots. They do have some value. If they will never be collectible thats one thing, but things like records and cds only have value because people place value on them. It is only because someone will pay $500 for a misfits 7" that they can cost that much. Ask my Dad how much he would pay for any of the original misfits vinyls. I can bet you that it would be about $0 simply because my dad places no value on them. (He might remember that I like the misfits and then it would be worht about a buck in case I "didn't have that one"). So any way you have to remember that things only have the value that people place on them so if I am willing to pay $20 for a boot that is how much it is worth. The idea works best when compared to baseball cards and comic books. Especially second prints of the Dark Knight Returns. For those of you who don't know anything about comic books, D.K.R. was a very popular set of four comic books about Batman in his future not that that has anything to do with the misfits. The originals were worth a lot of money after they went out of print. But then they reprinted many of them, and the second prints became worth a lot of money and for a couple of issues even the third prints were worht more than the cover price (at least the last time I checked which was a few years ago). Anyway some boots may have some value (and not just ripoff value) simply because they are of exceptional quality and rarity. I would pay about $20 for a good quality bootleg with a live version of you and Me (less than zero) on it, because I realize that I will probably never hear it live because even if Danzig does put out an entire live album that song will probably not be on it. What I'm trying to say is that the music is worth more to me than the money. That is why I am willing to pay the money for the music. So I think that boots definitely have some value even if collectors would never pay it. Sorry to everyone for taking so long and any gramatical or spelling errors I may have made. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:46:34 -0500 From: Scott Perry Subject: Adendum It's me again. I have an adendum to my last post. If you don't like boots because they steal money from the band or something I agree with you. It is very unfair that the artist does not make any money from bootlegs. I own one danzig bootleg and a misfits bootleg both of which were bought when I did not know much about the record industry and didn't really care. However I would still buy a bootleg if it was particularly good. I don't think I steal money from the band directly because I would buy any official live releases they put out. Even if Danzig put out a live disk with the same track list as the one I have I would buy it. I do understand that I am stealing money from the band indirectly by supporting an industry that competes with them. So I will make this promise, for each Danzig (or related band) bootleg that I have bought (two so far) or any that I buy in the future I will either make a 15% (of the price I paid for the discs) donation to the comic book legal defense fund (which I think Danzig promotes in his comic book) or I will send Danzig a check for the same amount or give it to him when I go see him Saturday. But it is up to any of you who care. If you do care then email me and tell me which way you think the money should go. But do it quick cause the concert is tomorrow. Sorry for taking up so much time again. Scott ------------------------------ From: Christopher Wilson Subject: Yeah, Christ! Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:13:07 -0500 >hey chris, the jerk store called and they're out of ...you! (thus the = subject >line) but really, why don't you give one to glenn the next time he = comes >around? and btw: why is everyone always cutting on glenn for being = short? is >it really funny or are you just so insecure that's the only way you can = put >yourself above him? i won't even touch the sellout issue...i guess if = you're >not a little punk your whole life then you've sold out.=20 >D.EVIL 1) Had I met Glenn I defiantly would have given him a shirt. 2) It's funny that you mention "calling Glenn short" and putting = ourselves "above him" in the same sentence. It'd be awfully hard not to = tower over the 4'1" gremlin. 3) Glenn is a sellout. Ignore it if you want, but Trent, err... I mean = Glenn has about as much credibility as O.J. >>From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) >>Christopher Wilson - i think someone is going to point out that you = ripped >>of their idea for a t-shirt. and if you think your the first = PERmoronSON >>to say Glenn is a sell out then you need some serious help. To my knowledge no one has made a mockery of Danzig by writing 4'1" of = fury shirt. "PERmoronSON"??? What the hell is that? Your failed attempt at humor?=20 >>>Why would you spend that much time and energy on someone you hate? >>>D.ETH I don't hate Danzig. I think he's one of the most entertaining gnomes = in showbiz... Chris Wilson I'm Punkasfuk! (However, I am not the embodiment of ultimate evil i.e. = Danzig) =20 "I got proof." http://www.tir.com/~mrnobody/paf/pafmag.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 10:21:41 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Lundgren_=3Ckp95bln=40kp.hgs.se=3E?=@kp.hgs.se Subject: European Sacrifice CD sigle fore trade Danzig CD single for trade!! (Not a bootleg). With the previously unreleased "Don't be afraid" I have 2 copies for you people!! SACRIFICE --------- 1 Sacrifice Blackacidevil Don't Be Afraid Format: 5" CD Single Info: Released in Germany I am looking for early Danzig cd and vinyl singles or Danzig vinyl LP's in trade. Mail offers to: kp95bln@kp.hgs.se ------------------------------ From: "BIG DADDY COOL" Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:34:47 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 Hey feinds, Just out of curiosity, I was wondering what people think of the new songs. Of the ones I have heard (Mars Attacks, the Haunting, the Hunger, Blacklight) I think they are really good. Especialy the Haunting and Mars Attacks. The Hunger and Blacklight are good too, and I found that the Hunger grew on me and is now one of my favorites. Anyways, I was wondering if anyone has heard all of the new songs and would be able to post a line comparing them to the ones I have heard. I think the new album is gonna be cool. MARK, do you know if the stuff they recorded in May of last year is going to be abbandoned? Im hopping they use it as B sides or something. Also, why did they decide not to record Dr Phibes? Was it voted out? When I first heard it I thought it sounded like an Iron Maiden song but I like it. Also, I think that the new album should include a CG armband, kind of like the NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF armband that came in the DK single. Now that would be cool Lastly, I was wondering how somone goes about making a bootleg? Do they just contact a record pressing company and give them the recordings and artwork? If someone could post on this I would appreciate it. Tks And oh yeah, STONE COLD and HBK, you're luck BIG DADDY COOL is no longer with the WWF or I would lay you both out flat in the middle of the ring cause Im tellin ya, IM THE SHIT! ------------------------------ Date: 2/5/1997 0:49 From: Patrick Sayers Subject: Motley Crue Hey everyone, To the guy that was wondering the new Motley Crue albumn comes out on March 11th.For those of you mallternative punks out there crying "Man,what the fuck.Motley Crue sucks and they have nothing to do with the Misfits."On the contrary the Misfits supposedly chased the Crue through the streets of Hollywood according to EERIE VON.TOO FAST FOR LOVE is the most kick ass cock rock albumn ever made,the re-union performance of SHOUT AT THE DEVIL last week ruled,and you all know that you worshipped MOTLEY CRUE until EMPTY-VEE(MTv)tod you it was cooler to like mallternative(not to be confused with alternative,which hasn't exsisted in almost a decade,or anything truly indie) Anyway,if I haven't pissed everyone off I'm still looking for bands to contribute to my MOTLEY CRUE:TOO FAST FOR LOVE cover CD.Insults are also welcome. PATRICK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 23:29:34 -0600 From: jcooper Subject: icons, etc. Hello, I just wanted to let you know I have made some Misfits icons, wallpaper and animated cursors if anyone's interested. I also have (just for the record) Smash. Pump., Marilyn Manson, and White Zombie. check them out if you get a chance.The address is below. -- jason cooper http://kwebdesign.com/jcooper ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 10:33:53 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Stuff Static Age - No you do not have to break it open. What you have to do is sacrifice a Han, Luke or Leia action figure to the great god THX-1138 and then the case will magically open. (Actually - on X-mas morning - the combination of little sleep and a hangover when we were opening presents led to me taking a couple minutes to figure out how to open the damn thing - guess all of my 9+ years of higher education have been for naught). Samhain box set - Well - when I interviewed Glenn in DC last week - he said that it was done and ready to go. He is waiting until he gets "a good deal" - y'know - the appropriate contracts and all. On a related note for anyone hoping to catch up with him - he says he will sign any Misfits stuff EXCEPT the box set because he "got screwed" on that. The follow-up for Black Aria will be the soundtrack for Deathstalker or Deathdealer or whatever - which is going to be, correct me if I am wrong, an animated movie (He will be previewing parts of that at some con in California in June) Since everyoine is posting their wants for vinyl here, here's mine: D GENERATION: Stealing Time 7-inch (finally got NWO on white vinyl) Degenerated / No God 10-inch promo VICE SQUAD: Lost Rockers (I don't care what size, as long as its the studio version) =============================================================================== Stephen Gorny [] In California, the people voted to do away Department of Psychology [] with racial preferences in hiring and University of MD Baltimore County[] school admissions and to legalize the use 5401 Wilkens Avenue [] of marijuana for medicinal purposes. Baltimore, MD 21228-5398 [] Members of the federal government are [] vowing to fight these referendums. sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu [] It's a good thing that we have such [] officials in Washington - otherwise, the [] laws of this country might be determined by [] its citizens =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 10:30:58 -0400 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST is the reason >From: Stephen Warren >Subject: adam west >"what's all this talk about adam west? i remember him from the old >batman. i love the old batman!" stephen, ADAM WEST is a band from DC. >From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine2" >"I played with THE cANADIAN aDAM wEST they sucked sorry tosay. I >played with them at CAfe Ole in Halifax . I saw Our Lady Peace play on >the weekend they are good I asked them to play London dungeons but they >didn't so there fo they suck." coincidentally, when OUR LADY PEACE played DC, they opened up for ADAM WEST. they asked me about the canadian band and i told them that the two sounded nothing alike. OUR LADY PEACE didn't strike me as a band who would be into the misfits. and speaking of that, i saw TEXAS IS THE REASON last nite at the black cat in DC, and lemme say, texas AIN'T the reason for these guys. it's bad enuff to name yourself after a misfits songs and not sound like them, but when you're a mix of REM and VELOCITY GIRL, you suck! i'm sorry, but they sucked. if you're interested, come check out ADAM WEST soon! Saturday, Feb. 15, 11 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Deep 6 Cadillac Club/Sheba Cafe 2224 18th Street, NW DC (202) 210-3530 Wednesday, Feb. 26 ADAM WEST CBGB's 315 Bowery NYC POSTPONED!!!! Saturday, March 8, 11 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Skelp Cadillac Club/Sheba Cafe 2224 18th Street, NW DC (202) 210-3530 Wednesday, March 19, 10 p.m. ADAM WEST w/ Betty Blue Black Cat 1831 14th Street, NW DC (202) 667-4527 Friday, March 28, 9:30 p.m. ADAM WEST w/Bucket, Montgomery Cliffs, Beltways Cafe Tattoo 4825 Belair Road in Northeast Baltimore (410) 325-7427 Pre-release party for FUZZY LOGIC CD -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 16:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Danzig in T.O. First off, I am not a record exec., I do not have anything to do with the professional music industry, I don't have any inside links and no one owes me any favours (quite the opposite). Everything you are about to read is true and based entirely on luck (of which, it seems, I have a great deal) Well, I went and saw Glenn in Toronto last night. Guero666, it was good to see you there. The day started off pretty typical, me and my friends got there early to get the lay of the land. We parked in front of the Warehouse and listened to the interview with Glenn on 97.7 HTZ/FM (Christy Knight must die), he mentioned something about Canadian border guards trying to plant cocaine on his bus (?!). When we went inside, I went to the barrier of the stage. One of the security guys generously passed out about a dozen backstage passes (little did we know they were no better than toilet paper). I got one, I was happy. Electric Hellfire Club was stopped at the border so they had to cancel (blah, big deal). Powerman 5000 came out and rocked, I definitely want to hear more from these guys. They threw out stickers and I think they said something about free shirts but customs seized them at the border, oh well. Danzig kicked ass, Tommy Victor is a rock star and is the dumbest person I have ever met, I was amused to see his picks are Danzig picks with the sig. Tommy Prong (did someone forget to tell him he's not in that band anymore?). The show was great, much better than Hamilton (but Tommy still sucked). Lazie has gotten much better, Joey's great, and Glenn, well, Glenn is Glenn. After the show, I waited with my pass to go backstage and waited... and waited... and waited (do YOU see a trend?), until finally security said Glenn wasn't seeing anybody (a blatant lie, but I'll get to that soon). I tried reasoning, cajoling, bargaining, defending my point, questioning authority and arguing, my friends (who did not have a pass, incidentally) were shouting at the guards demanding I be let in (what pals, *sniff*). I eventually relented and went outside. I went around checking doors to see if any were open, sure enough, one was. After a moments hesitation and some nudging from my pals I was in, no one with came with me... the fools. After a few wrong turns I was in Glenn's dreesing room and no one said anything. I was in! It seems quite a few people were there to see Glenn and from what I could gather they were all tramps or freinds with security (which appears to be why security didn't let more people in, heaven forfend their friends be a little crowded). Glenn came in and took the time to talk with everyone...EVERYONE. To all those who say Glenn is a jerk, maybe, but just to you. I showed him my white vinyl "Three Hits" (the one I got for $50 Cdn.) good news, it's real. He happily signed it, my pass, and a b&w photo from a magazine article that Mark gave me (thanks Mark!), I gave him a copy of my friends' band's CD. He graciously accepted it and said he hoped he liked it. Did I mention the free beer? I got pretty buzzed, and all on Glenn's tab. He eventually left to go outside and sign stuff for everyone waiting out there (he took the time to speak with everyone out there, too). Before I polished off my last beer and left, Lazie came in. No one, NO ONE, even looked at him, so I hopped up ambled over and said hi. "I remember you," he said. The shock was like a punch in the face. "From the last time we were here." Amazing, he remembered talking to me at the Ozzfest in Hamilton some 5 months before. We shot the shit for a few minutes and then he went to talk with some other people. I decided to go outside and hook up with my pals. We talked to Glenn a bit more and then it was off for home. All in all, a good night. So what's the moral of this story, kids? Question Authority... and take risks, they might just pay off. Sorry this was so long, but hopefully it will bring hope back into the lives of those who do like Glenn and would like to know that he really is a great guy. D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca WWW: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ "God bless those pagans." -Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 14:34:07 +0100 From: adam bodnar Subject: Kryst the Conqueror I just heard the so-36 germany sound check recording of Dr. Phibes Rises Again and loved it. I thought it was a great song and it fills that void left from the 5 song Kryst the Conqueror EP. Is there any chance in hell that Jerry might release the 13 track full length LP, because the music is really good. Mark can you field this question? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:43:36 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Tammy S. wrote: > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:12:02 -0500 > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) > Subject: It just amazing to me... > > Hello fiends... > oh yeah, someone was a little off on their horror the past issue or so. > Night of the Ghouls is considered part 2 of Plan 9. Criswell is in this one > too. it is also about raising the dead and or communicating with the dead. No, Tammy, you are a little off! Normally I wouldn't go off on someone for this, but since you are correcting someone INCORRECTLY, I feel that I have an obligation to put you in your place . Night of the Ghouls is part 2 of BRIDE OF THE MONSTER. Don't believe me? Well, NotG has Lobo in it, who was in Bride of the Monster. Also, the story takes place in the house of Dr. Eric Varnoff (sp?) who was played by Bela. Same house, same swamp, same monster. However, Plan 9 does fit into Bride of the Monster and Night of the Ghouls. Kelton, who is played by Paul Marco, is the same cop throughout all of the three movies. "Why do I get all the spook details? Monsters, flying saucers..." Technically Night of the Ghouls is the sequal to Bride of the Monster (not Plan 9), but the stories are all inter-related. Do I get a prize? :P .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~snook `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:47:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Interview Hey all I interviwed Glenn a couple weeks ago and thought you might like to see some of it. Just to let you know, when I first called him he was about to get into the tub. I just can't pitcure Glenn taking a tubby with a little rubber duck. enjoy jamie Glenn Danzig Interview: 1/31/97 JB- For starters how is the tour getting along? Is the band getting tighter? GD- Well I like it. (laughs) The more we play the better we get. And the new material sounds better live. JB- How long is this tour going to be out? GD- Right now weâre expecting to do the US dates then head off to Europe and maybe the east this time. We didnât go that was on the 4 tour so we should be there this time. Europe is always good in the summer. Then we might be coming back to the states to do some more dates at the end of the summer and maybe fall. JB- Whats the next video going to be? GD- Serpentia. JB- Why with your voice being a strength did you use all the effects? GD- Actually I used some on the last record. And Iâm looking to use more. It just adds something else to the music. But I donât think that the effects that are supposed to be in the live show are working. Actually Iâm not sure. JB- What do the fans think of the "new" sound of Danzig? GD- Actually its not new. I did some of the same stuff before with cantspeak. Iâd say 30-40% of people are shocked at the new stuff. But thats ok. I like it. JB- What led to the line-up change? GD- Well John was contracted through Danzig 4. And after he left I found out from Joey that Prong had been dropped and he was talking to Tommy who was really pumped to play. So Joey set it all up and Tommy has been great. JB- To change gears, how is Verotik going? GD- Its cool. We have a Satanika animated pilot thatâs going to be shown in LA. And Miramax is talking about making a feature of Albino Spider Of Dijet. JB- And how much real acting did you do in Prophecy 2? GD- (laughs) what do you mean by "real"? I acted, but it was more fighting. I filmed it during the Ozzfest tour and did most of my stunts. I actually fought Russell Wong at the end. JB- So did you get your ass kicked? GD- (laughs again) actually I get killed. But itâs cool anyway. JB- What about future acting roles? Any more feedback on playing Logan? GD- Well as far as that goes I was contacted by a studio about playing Logan then it just kind of died. Anyway, Marvel is going bankrupt. Who knows if it will ever get made. JB- Tell me about the "new" Evilive label. GD- Well I intend to use it to release some old Samhain and the Death Dealer soundtrack will be on it. JB- When is that coming out? GD- Well things have been busy but that and the Samhain Boxset that Iâve been talking about forever should be out by summer. I hope. And Miramax is also looking into making Death Dealer in to a movie. JB- I know you know, so what do you think about the Misfits touring? GD- Man I knew this would come up today. I think itâs sad that the best they could do is bring back 1 original member. I mean it would be cool if it was the true misfits but itâs not. It just cheapens the whole thing. And the thing that pisses me off is that the releases suck. Collection Two sucked and I had nothing to do with it. They never listened to me, I had a really cool piece of cover art that looked like the old Misfits stuff that would have been great and I gave it to them then they released with that fucked up green. They didnât even release all the material that they had. There are more songs that are sitting on tape that they didnât put out. JB- Why not? GD- Because they think that they can give a little over a long time or some shit like that. It screws the fans who want to hear it. JB- So I assume that you guys wonât be doing lunch anytime soon? GD- We arenât doing shit. JB- Onto another subject, have you been playing anything new in concert? GD- Nothing new right now, but Tommy did play on the Ep that weâre going to release during the summer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 07:31:40 -0800 From: Daniel King Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 >From: MePhiSto78@aol.com >Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:10:12 -0500 (EST) >Subject: Glenn on the radio > >I am curious to know if anyone has a copy of Glenn's two hour appearance on >the LoveLine radio show, where he previewed 2 songs, 7th house and sacrafice. >i dont want to brag but i have it on tape, sooo......... >2 quick plugz: ANIMOSITY AND FM RADIO ASSAULT ARE FVKIN HERE: KEEP YOUR >CHILDREN LOCKED INDOORS !!!!! >i luv ya AA > > fiendishly > Jordan I have it on tape too... i thought it was funny how glenn knows all these "weird chicks" who masturbate and like porn. One thing, did your radio station have like a 5-10 second blackout of the show? Mine did, and i got the "we are experiencing techincal difficulty" message, then it just came right back on. -Daniel (The Ugly Angel) "Vague sketch of a fantasy, laughing at the sunrise like he's been up all night" -Violent Femmes ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:53:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sigh.... Sigh.... Members of the Misfits Bible: For nearly two and a half years, I have been a part of the Misfits Bible. It has seen good times and bad. I have recently been slammed by a couple of people for NO reason whatsoever. There have been false claims made....for example a one jhotcock sucker punched me, obviously not being true.... With these flames, I have decided that the best way to deal with them is perhaps to leave. I am obviously not appreciated by some of you (some, not all) and for this I don't want to cause you any distress in having to move your finger slightly to the right to hit "Page Down" a couple of times, if even that, to get through my posts. I figure it's better to rely on the web page itself as opposed to having to deal with people like the flamers. I have attempted to post as many things as value as I could think of, including reviews and criticisms of the bands, and of course making the usual comments....and I hope that at least some of you feel I have succeeded in making intelligent contributions. Obviously, I am not leaving because of a few imbeciles who have personally attacked me. They are not the sole reason of my leaving. There are instead many many factors that have lead me to make this decision. I'd like to thank the people who made the bible great....several of whom have left.....Bobby, EVB, D-Rod, AZ, EvilDieff, CG, Denmom, Tammy S, and of course to everyone else who made an effort of post something of value. There are so many more, however these are the only ones that come to mind right now. And of course the main man of the list Mark Kennedy, hail to him. My departure from the Bible does not mean I'm quitting everything. I'll still be around, so if you're ever interested, drop a line. Take care! ChristoTer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:15:05 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Koziej Subject: Danzig Toronto show O.K. you've all heard the set lists, how the opening bands were good or how they suck so here is just a small review of the show in Toronto on Feb 5. The warehouse was not completely sold out but there was enough people not there to make it really good. Like others have said the new line up is pretty good but they are no John, Eerie or Chuck. I really like the new stuff and to me at least it sounded really good live plus the overall sound was good, maybe a it lacking in the vocals. oh yeah, one more thing from the review from Phily, I guess it was AZ that said that Tommy smiled too much. Not here, he looked like a crazed maniac, but however he did put in the odd grin. This is my first time writing to the bible so be gentle on my flaws Thanx PK ------------------------------ From: sixsins@globalserve.net Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:41:03 -0500 Subject: They're no Danzig. Hello everyone, it's been a long while since I last posted, but I really have to say this. I saw Danzig and Powerman 5000 in Toronto on the fifth, and it was wierd. Powerman was really tight and heavy and groove oriented, i thought they were pretty good. It's Danzig I have a problem with. I mean, his voice has never sounded better, Glenn was in great shape. Joey is okay, but nothing special...at least I can deal with him. Same goes for Lazie on less of a scale. He really looks out of place however he plays the stuff well, and i like his sound. TOMMY VICTOR IS A FUCKING WEENIE!!!!! I say "weenie" because it's the only word I can think of that suits him. He's up there, ruining the guitar parts by putting solos in everywhere he can squeeze a few extra notes in, and if he's not doing that then he's ruining the main riffs of the songs by playing the entire thing using pinch harmonics making every riff sound screechy and gutless. He wasn't even playing some of the songs properly, for example the Her Black Wings intro is an actual pattern of different notes, we all can hum. Picture the way is is supposed to sound, now imagine how it would sound if you just stayed playing the first note over and over instead of going down to the lower notes. ( this is for guitarists or whoever understands: the riff on the low E string is this: 2 2 0 1 2 2 0 1 , but dumbass just played this: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2) What a loser. Plus he was always trying to steal the spotlight from Glenn, acting like we were all there to see him. Ya right. As far as I'm concerned Danzig is dead and gone. It's really great to see glenn still playing because he still sounds amazing, but the band is no longer a unit...it's more like Glenn Danzig and the NoName losers. On the whole, i Glenn rocked, his band sucked, and powerman is cool. Oh, by the way, Electric Hellfire Club didn't make it across the border, and Canadian customs tried to plant cocaine on Danzig's tour bus. This is official cause it came straight from his mouth. And Glenn is still an amazing person, he took time to talk to every single person who wanted to say anything to him. He signed autographs all day, and then again after the show for people with passes, then everyone outside. Absolutely everyone had the chance to speak with him, and he was totally friendly to every one of them. ------------------------------ From: MePhiSto78@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:56:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: THX 1138..... Ok, to prove my truth, because i wouldnt lie over the misfits bible... " I, JJ, do solemly swear to tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.....i swear on ALL my MISFITS and SAMHAIN stuff." ok, i know no one cares BUT i thought i would put an end to some of the questions that fiends have about THX 1138, if youve never seen it before e mail me and ill try my best to re-describe it. So i went downstairs to watch the simpsons like i usually do, and i turn on the TV and flip down about 5 channels and i hear the word ...Lucas... So i change it back and it says "up next: the george lucas classic: THX 1138" so i was trying to figure out if they were serious or if i was dreaming or something... so its comes on and the first thing i said was.... the sound SUCKS. i guess because its old or something but it may have been supposed to sound like shit, or maybe it was the channels copy, who knows, but it is only 15 frigin minutes !!! i was expecting a full lenght movie !! soooo.. its about this guy running down halls w/ 1138 on his forehead, and all these guys with other #'s on their heads pushing buttons and watching moniters, etc, the guy escapes through some elevator and is outside running into the sunset....roll credits: its over. thats it. if you are reading this you now know all about the movie THX 1138. this ISNT me posting another stupid 138 sighting like others have done before, i was just informing all of the fiends out there who havent seen this movie, on what it was about. so stop thinking the misfits are in connection with all of G lucas's other movies, its just a plug for thx 1138, so stop waisting space to tell us about star wars and american grafitti, etc, because i figured this stuff out before i heard the song we r 138 and knew that he was just showing stuff for thx.....ok....now that ive proved my point, SORRY FOR WAISTING SPACE !!! but im not the first person to post stupid things on the MB, now am i ??? and what the hell is up with all the guys with wrestlers names ? i am a new member to the MB so i would appreciate it if someone could explain tome, whats going on with that. thanx for the space. JJ ------------------------------ From: MePhiSto78@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 03:11:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: sorry fiends.. im sorry if i sounded like an asshole in that last post. i just am getting sick of all the 138 posts. i was trying to put an end to some of them. oh, and to who ever posted what my dream band would be, here it is: chris barnes: vocals john christ: guitar glenn: electric keyboard animal (muppets) :drums and a resurected.. cliff burton: bass fiendishly JJ ------------------------------ From: Blagripper@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 06:40:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: LOL zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :)have a nice day--Blag ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 13:35:04 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Lundgren_=3Cbwl=40hem1.passagen.se=3E?=@hem1.passagen.se Subject: European Sacrifice CD sigle fore trade Sorry wrong email address on the other post!!! Danzig CD single for trade!! (Not a bootleg). With the previously unreleased "Don't be afraid" I have 2 copies for you people!! SACRIFICE --------- 1 Sacrifice Blackacidevil Don't Be Afraid Format: 5" CD Single Info: Released in Germany I am looking for early Danzig cd and vinyl singles or Danzig vinyl LP's in trade. Mail offers to: bwl@hem1.passagen.se (not the other one, this one works!!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:18:23 -0500 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Chuck in hell The Washington Post Weekend section has a blurb about Social D coming to town next week. Of course they mention Chuck. The blurb sez, "Chuck played with Black Flag, DOA, and other seminol LA punk bands. Notably missing from the Social Distorion press release is his recent stint with the pagan-rock band Danzig. 'That's kinda a sore spot with Chuck. He refers to it as '9 years in Hell.'" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:57:35 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Shitheads everywhere... Hello fiends... Well i'm glad to see that some of you guys like the Misfits 101 stuff. the whole music collecting, trading and selling thing has been an important part of my life for a long time now. i just hate to see people get ripped on the stuff. its so easy to get the records you want without having the money that people say its worth. which i am guessing that i lost out on that Who Killed Marilyn i just saw on the bible. ( i wrote you and you did not respond to my offer and or did someone give you the amount you asked?) though i don't take it hard anymore. i find records from the oddest of places. zycki - damn you really made a killing. that United Blood is worth at least $80 -100. i got one helping out a friend, it cost him to pay me for my Agent Orange - Bloodstains 7" plus $40 or 50 in cash. and the Cro-mags - Age of Quarrel is at least $35+. which is funny cause a friend saw it in Bleeker Bob's for that. and i know what they sell Misfits stuff for. I got a lot of my stuff from Maryland, Cough/Cool from CA, Beware from Rhode Island, Earth AD multi color vinyl from New Orleans, several pieces from Tennessee. as i said before you just have to look. i only got a few pieces locally. Florida at least south florida does not have a great deal of Misfits items floating around. Brett - i hate to tell you but your a bit off on your Danzig Videos, the guy who posted said "he's out in a cabinin the Louisiana Bayou with chicks" Killer Wolf is shot in front of a cabin, I'm the One is mostly shot in a graveyard with shots of just Glenn and John and a swaying female. you might want to watch the video tape again. Plus, aren't you taking it a bit far, so what if he drank coffee or not or if somewhere you heard GLENN DANZIG DOES NOT DRINK COFFEE. this is just too much, he's not some Deity, he's as human as all of us. shit he was sick when he did the show in south florida, that seemed as human as human can be. shit probably half or 3/4 of the bible members drink coffee and get sick. Misfits 101... its out of print and you will never find it... well this was a funny one at least to me. I was talking to someone about Samhain CD's and since this person knew they were out of print he figured he would never find them. Wrong! Even with the CDs they turn up in the weirdest places and the oddest times. I was ordering a promo CD for Danzig, this was a couple years ago, and i was asked if i would be intersted in a CD that has been sitting on their wall for years. what could this be. well i was offered for $8 a sealed promo of Mother from 1988. sure i'll take it. i was not looking for that, but its been sitting for a long time. just like in some other record store there is a Misfits 7" just sitting on the wall and no one even knows. we all collect what is out of print. the CDs are just part of it. i can't say i have had luck with the used CD places though maybe in other states you might just find a copy of Initium sitting there waiting. i have to say i am more into the vinyl thing, though i am not one to pass up a promo cd. i still have not seen the promo for Coming Down, but you never know. I think EVB is still looking for that one too. I do agree on the convention going. Record conventions are like a true version of WONDERLAND. you find so much great stuff at those things. plus you can be a bargainer there with no problem. i know people who bring records with them to make trade or go the half cash/trade. i've seen people with portable turntables to hear the quality of what they are buying. the first one you go to, bring a list of what you are looking for, and the detailing list. go in and focas, going table to table, or your head will spin seeing all the tables with all the records. ask for the Misfits records, most dealers do know what they brought with them. you see a record, you hear the price, now bargain. don't stand there like a big puttz and pay what they ask. they are waiting for you to bargain(New Yorkers do it all the time. the scary thing is they think you can do it anywhere). oh, one thing bring a bag with you to carry all the records you buy. most dealers forget to bring bags. oh and if you see some rare item, and its cheap don't go nuts. you play it as if you are playing poker. keep calm and a straight face. go crazy when you get home, but not infront of a dealer. on the other hand if you see a rare piece and you think someone might have it cheaper at another table, once you leave that record its lost for good. i've done that to make up my mind and lost the records in just a few minutes. well till next time, keep looking. hope everyone has a great weekend and see ya on Monday. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Glenn in the newspaper dream band and stuff Jeff Herrin John Christ record auction(pt.1) record auction(pt.2) RE: interview Misfits Tribute Show in Halifax stuff ECW Misfits on Iggy Re: Misfits Bible #293 Damn, aren't we getting a little carried away... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 17:47:57 From: "m.s.k" Subject: Last > From: Tarry Carapezza > Subject: Violent World Alert! > > I was in a record store last nite and 'Violent World' was on the shelf! > The release date of Feb. 11 is wrong! Go get your copy now! The release date is not wrong, but it sounds like several record stores have gotten to work early... > From: Grandpa Atomic > Subject: Record Collecting Tips Excellent post, Grandpa. I just wish the formatting hadn't gotten messed up, because you really had some good stuff to say. > From: "Lisa, Joe or Matt Pendleton" > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:14:25 > Subject: MISFITS > > I have asked this Question like 20 times and I never got a straight > answer. does anyone know if the Misfits are going to play > southern cal. after they play in europe in april? Well, I've posted at least once that the Misfits aren't even touring in the US until June 1st, and they certainly haven't made their schedule yet... > From: Chris Schwarz > Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 > > First, I don't know how many Bible subscribers skateboard, but you should= > find this interesting anyway. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen= > the skateboards with Misfits designs on the decks? There's a skateboard= > company called Scarecrow that specializes in putting horror graphics on= The Misfits sell these decks at their shows. You can order the decks directly through the Fiend Club, although I don't know if it's the same price. > Fiend Friend about Collection II and he told me that it is HEAPS better= > than Collection I. He said Collection II contains "their best songs" and= > stuff. My question is: is that true? Does Collection II really put= > Collection I to shame? I know this isn't really a do-or-die question, but= Collection II is okay. Unfortunately, it has some VERY overdubbed (after the band broke up) tracks, and even one that was recorded entirely after the band broke up. > From: Scott Perry > Subject: Adendum > > If you don't like boots because they steal money from the band or something > I agree with you. It is very unfair that the artist does not make any money > from bootlegs. I own one danzig bootleg and a misfits bootleg both of which > were bought when I did not know much about the record industry and didn't > really care. Here are some reasons I hate bootlegs: 1) Anyone can make a bootleg. I can make one, you can make one... what's the point of collecting them? It's a waste of money and time. 2) The information on bootlegs is most often total bullshit. I think everyone has encountered this. 3) They're a ripoff - to you, to the band, etc. Somebody's getting money they don't deserve, and somebody's not getting the money that they deserve for recording or performing in the first place. I don't care for the legalities or the 'rise against the corporate bastards' bullshit. Somebody's getting ripped off (including you), and that's all there is to it. 4) Lots of new collectors are fooled into paying big bucks for 'fake' items. When I first got into the Misfits, I grabbed all the bootleg 7" singles, just like most of us do... I spent a lot of money on that trash. 5) Besides the shitty sound quality, the misleading information, and the liars who put together the information on the sleeves, I also hate bootlegs because they're so hard to keep track of... there are over 100 different Misfits bootlegs alone. Save your money. Use some of your blank tapes and record whatever your friend has. Contact christoter@aol.com and get copies of all that stuff from him. There are plenty of tapes out there with stuff that destroys what's on the bootleg records and CDs, and often the quality is better (although plenty of times, it's worse). Think about it - anything on a bootleg was originally on somebody's tape somewhere. Chris Ternes (christoter@aol.com again) has a copy of every demo, interview, or live track that has been circulated among collectors and he makes it all available for $5 per 90 minutes. Is this a rip off? Consider the fact that Chris buys the tape, records it with his tape deck (wear&tear), packages the tape, and pays the postage to send it back. He probably often throws in a postcard or something (I just sent him about 60 of them). Chris has been doing this for about 6 months. The idea was suggested by Jerry Only a long time ago, and I didn't feel that I had the time to do it. Chris, on the other hand, has always made his collection available to others, and offered to do so again. Keep in mind that the tape you get is also a bootleg, at least a bootleg recording, as opposed to a bootleg album. Its value is or should be $0. > From: "BIG DADDY COOL" > Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 > > heard. I think the new album is gonna be cool. MARK, do you know if > the stuff they recorded in May of last year is going to be > abbandoned? Im hopping they use it as B sides or something. Also, > why did they decide not to record Dr Phibes? Was it voted out? When I These tracks will never be used, according to Jerry. The band was not happy with the way they turned out. Dr. Phibes was voted out by the band because it was too long. The original Kryst The Conqueror is aoubt 7 minutes long, and (as those of you who have the Misfits soundcheck version know) the Misfits version is similar in length. Here's how to get your copy of the Swedish Misfits tribute album: Send $18 ppd to: Dolores Records AB Box 129 401 22 Gothenburg Sweden including 1st class airmail..................... mark ------------------------------ From: THEMAXX195@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:16:40 (EST) Subject: ARE THE DEAD MILKMEN FIENDS? I was lookin at a Dead Milkmen discography the other day and on one of the live imports the last track was listed as "ASTRO ZOMBIES[Cover of an old Misfits song]". I was immediately sent into a state of shock and decided that I had to find out more info on it. If any1 knows where I could get a copy of this. ------------------------------ Date: 7 FEB 97 15:22:56 EST From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com Subject: re:chuck in hell!! Whats up with Chuck?? The most money he ever made and will make was with Glenn. Dont get me wrong, Chuck is one of the best or thy best punk rock drummers ever!!! I saw Chuck with Social D this year and he kicked major ass. But he shouldnt be bitter with Glenn, at least he had a paycheck comming in for 9 years!! I could have been pumping gas in canada for 3 bucks an hour!!! gfk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:55:28 From: brent christopher eyestone Subject: blatant promotion Hi - Nothing new about the Misfits to post, but since some of us have lives outside of the fearsome foursome, I thought I'd post a few things of note. For all of you kids in PA and the surrounding region, come on up to Penn State next weekend because on February 15, I'll be doing a FREE show in the HUB ballroom. The bands playing will be the Trans Megetti (from NJ on Art Monk Construction), Jesuit (VA Beach metal-core), Piebald (emo from Mass.), Puritan (State College screamycore), and probably Four Hundred Years (from Richmond). It's FREE, it's FREE, it's FREE. If you need more info or directions, call me. (814)861-8240. Also, I just put out the first release on my label, the Magic Bullet Record Co. It's a CD by the band Boy Sets Fire from Newark, De. This is a split label release between me and Rosepetal. The band plays political-as-fuck hardcore/emocore and the packaging is incredible (20 page booklet and CD inside of a matchbook cover...). If you want one, they're only $5.00 ppd from me. That's right - a *CD* for $5.00. This is not a typo. Send check, m.o. or hidden cash payable to Brent Eyestone to: the Magic Bullet Record Co. 478 East Beaver Ave. Apt. 211 State College, PA 16801 That should be all for now. Thanks - Brent. ------------------------------ From: bellta@wku.edu Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 15:28:28 EST Subject: violent world the violent world cd is a piece of shit. nofx is one of the worst punk bands of all time, and they did last caress, and got half of the words wrong. the only decent one was by pennywise, and they suck. they did astro zombies, and it was awful. fucking earth crisis is on there, and they are perhaps my least fave band of all time. they call themselves a punk band, yet they sound like slayer. do not waste your cash on violent world. i was able to listen to it for free at disc jockey, and it is terrible... tab hollywood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 16:06:32 From: Chris Schwarz Subject: Submission for next Misfits Bible! This article was taken from the April 1997 (Vol. 6 #1) issue of Warp magazine (a skateboarding/snowboarding/surfing rag). All text has been preserved in its original form and nothing has been modified. All text is copyright Warp magazine and is credited to the author. -> THE MISFITS: FAMOUS MONSTERS OF PUNK ROCK <- Words & photography by Miki Vuckovich Jerry Only - Bass Michale Graves - Vocals Doyle - Guitar Dr. Chud - Drums "It started with a twisted dream and ended with the world in heat." -- Misfits poster, 1978 When the Misfits broke up in 1983, the world had yet to recognize them for what they were: a band - an act - so unique, so calculated, and so prodigal that only years after they broke up did the rest of the world finally come to its senses. Few bands have been so fervently collected, and so prolifically bootlegged. The Misfits became an underground legend, the mystique compounded by their early demise. Well in advance of the pop-wave of the 90s, the Misfits were producing their own brand of schlock-pop punk rock - blending biting guitar, pounding bass, tom-heavy drums, and howling vocals into a cavalcade of catchy riffs, tribal beats, and sing-along verses. With their monster-movie motif, spooky lyrics, and sheer mass (the Misfits - gasp - worked out), they had trouble finding their place in a scene intolerant of "rock-star" imagery and still swimming in the monotony of buzz-saw guitars and screaming political diatribes. The Misfits did their own thing, and the world would have to take it or leave it. "This street we walk upon this corner full of piss and fear This street won't bear it long It slants, it tilts, it's brought outside Alive" -- "Cough/Cool" By the time the Misfits formed in 1977, New York City had already put a number of theatrical rock acts on the musical map: the New York Dolls, Iggy Pop, Kiss. The young three-piece from neighboring Lodi, New Jersey got busy and in just a few months put out the jazzy "Cough/Cool" seven inch, where silky vocals and electric piano betrayed the (much) more emphatic guitar and screaming vocal style they'd introduce with their second EP, Bullet (1978). Released on their own Plan 9 label, this record established what was to become the definitive Misfits sound and format. For the next four years the Misfits would be available exclusively in the seven inch format. "I walk down city streets On an unsuspecting human world Inhuman in your midst ... This world Is mine to own" -- "I Turned Into A Martian" The band would also go through a number of lineup changes with singer Glenn Danzig and bassist Jerry Only surviving a cast of guitarists and drummers before settling down with Jerry's brother Doyle on guitar and a fellow named Googy on drums. In 1982 the band ventured West, bringing with them recordings for a new album - their debut LP, Walk Among Us. With a record sleeve crammed with lyrics and photos, the world finally had proof that these guys were serious about this stuff. Their menacing looks, however, coupled with sometimes tongue-in-cheek lyrics and their musical assault, obscured their true intent. The Misfits were about having a good time, but those ofus scarred for life by Kiss' descent into disco couldn't see past the makeup and costumes. The Misfits endured hardcore's heyday as punk rock's monster squad, a band whose cult following - a pseudo-secret coven known as the Fiend Club - inspired them to write, record, and tour. The Fiends were privy to an exclusive catalog of EPs and merchandise now very much sought after, and the band reciprocated their devotion with blistering performances that weren't always tight, but were always inclusive and interactive. Chorus-friendly lyrics and a singer who spent more time in the front row than on stage made for one hell of a good time, if not a clean performance. But that's what the records were for, any true Fiend would tell you. "Oh, boom when you feel like you're going too slow I bet you're gonna like it in A.D., A.D. People gonna talk about A.D., A.D. Living hell is not so bad" -- "Earth A.D." With 1983's Earth A.D., the Misfits took one step further out on the long twisted limb upon which they were perched. Googy was replaced by Black Flag drummer Robo, and even Fiends were baffled by what was to become the seminal speed-metal album. It was a new, blatantly noisy direction for the band, completely devoid of the catchy melodies that were the guts of their otherwise explosive music. Compared to Walk Among Us, Earth A.D. was demonic. Even the lyrics spoke more directly to topics like possession, cannibalism, murder, and - of course - death. It was no longer about fun and games. Earth A.D. was the Misfits' last record to be released before they broke up on Halloween. Of course a slew of albums, CDs, and now the complete box-set collection have come out since, but without live performances - the participation - these releases are just relics of a legend come and gone. We all know what became of Glenn Danzig. He went on to become a full-fledged heavy-metal icon, and currently holds title to all original Misfits music. Since the breakup, the other members seemed to have either fallen off the face of the Earth of relegated themselves to a quiet life in the New Jersey countryside. Actually they've been in court, fighting Glenn for the right to use the Misfits name. Ten years and several thousand dollars later, they've reached a settlement - Glenn owns all the music publishing rights, and Jerry Only gets the name and the logo. "A lot of people told me, 'Hey, there's a lot of money in music publishing,' and all this kind of stuff," says Jerry. "And I said to them, 'Look, there're two things in this world: there's the guy who can go out and play the music, and then there's the guy who gets the check in the mail for the music.' When Guns 'N' Roses or Metallica play my stuff and I don't like the way they did it, I don't want no fuckin' money for that." The band now earns its keep via performing live and selling merchandise. While they develop material for a new album, the Misfits are restricted from recording or videotaping any of the music now owned by Glenn - effectively being locked out of their past. Undaunted, Jerry focuses on what's ahead of the band, rather than dwelling on its sometimes brutal legacy. "We are forced to go forward," he says. "We cannot step back into the past." With the path now open and their mission clear, Jerry and Doyle can finally don their guitars and makeup once again, Dr. Chud can sit behind the towering drum kit where so many have sat before him, and 21-year-old Michale Graves can stand on hallowed ground - center stage - where Glenn Danzig once stood and delivered the verses he wrote. For the time being, the Misfits' performances are dominated by the songs of yore, Glenn's lyrics, and much of Glenn's music. But some new and promising material is making its way onto the band's set list, and Jerry says the creative process can continue: "When we used to write with Glenn, we would work on something together so everybody would have their input. Without knowing who the singer or who the drummer was, me and Doyle could have sat there and wrote the next ten fuckin' Misfits albums. But without everybody's input, it really doesn't feel like your stuff." The Misfits' live show is still a visual feast of amplifiers, skulls, leather, face paint, devilocks, and muscle. The music is as fast and loud as ever, and 37-year-old Jerry and 32-year-old Doyle race around the stage nonstop, pausing between songs just long enough for Jerry to count off one-two-three-four! "The one thing we got is that we're hungry for it," says Jerry. "If you look at a lot of people who have gone through the scene with us, they're no longer hungry for it - a lot of them are just going through the motions." If the Misfits are just "going through the motions," then the motions would have to include not just the very animated live show, but everything that goes into it. Jerry and Doyle build almost all of their own equipment: their guitars, amps, and drums. Their family's Vernon, New Jersey tool-and-die shop is the Misfits' sound lab, where they play with concepts and design their instruments with unique materials and properties. The guitars are made from graphite, Doyle's amplifiers are completely built from scratch, and Jerry's SVT bass cabinets have been totally modified. The drums are another work of art. "We have a 32-inch bass drum," says Jerry. "We have Robo's original 28 mounted inside of a 32, then we got the big spikes that go around the front with the name on it. Then the two floor toms - each one is two 22-inch bass drums strapped together. So, our drums are theoretically twice as big as anybody else's, since each drum is a double drum. We use bass drums for floor toms." Despite the wasted time and lots friendships, Jerry doesn't regret the fact that he and Glenn couldn't settle their differences and keep it together all this time: "What happened had to happen, I wouldn't go back in time and keep this band together, I would have broken it up. Whether it would have been down as long as it was is quite another story, but at the same time, Michale walked into the place, and he was nineteen. So if we would have come up with someone sooner, Michale obviously wouldn't have been our singer. We would've had somebody else, and maybe we were meant to wait for Mike." Consensus among fans is that the new guy is pulling it off. He sings well, puts out for the entire set, and his youth adds a vitality to the band that many older groups don't have. He's not Glenn Danzig, but maybe that's just as well. Jerry seems sincere in his belief that with Michale and Chud, the Misfits are finally complete. "Everybody's got their potential," he says, "and if we all live up to our potential, we're gonna be better than we are now, which is better than we were. We'll hit that level of greatness that I know we can hit. And it's not how many records we sell, and it's not how many gigs we play, or how many songs we play in a set. If we hit our potential, we'll be the best band of all time. And that's my goal. So, you know, we're hungry. I think that's the most important thing. I think that most of the bands are really great until they make it, and then they get ruined because all of a sudden it's not about music anymore, it's always about fuckin' money. And that's the problem. I hope we never get like that. I really hope." The twisted dream lives on. Check out the Misfits online: Misfits Fiend Club Homepage http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ Caroline Records Misfits Homepage http://www.caroline.com/girls/dust.html ----------------------------------- Well, there you have it. I hope you enjoy the article and seriously consider putting it in the next ish of the Bible. I know a lot of other Fiends will dig the hole out of it. Take care, Chris Schwarz chris@intown.net ------------------------------ From: AntiPunker@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:45:14 (EST) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 yeah man its true that theres a MISFITS tribute album coming out soon. Its supposed to hve nofx and shit like that. I dunno know about it cause there's just no substitute for the original shit. Ya know, tell me if you agree. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:29:26 From: shro@ptdprolog.net (Droog) Inzo Said >Look my brother, My knowledge of Star Wars is not minimal. I've been >into The trilogy since I was little. I remember going to the theatre >opening night of Return of the Jedi, when I was 7 yrs old. Up in my >clost is every original Star Wars figure, most of them are in extremely >good condition. I have them all but Luke in Stormtrooper disguise, Han >in Carbonite, and Yak Face. I also have all the new ones. If your such a Star Wars fan then you should know that It came out a while before the song We Are 138 was ever written or released. Anyway i Posted that Star Wars sighting like 4 months ago. bye bye ------------------------------ From: Christopher Wilson Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 01:22:10 >>-J SIN of ANGELSIN >>What is your problem? Why is Glenn a sellout? Lets not jump on >>the bandwagon or anything, Chris. Did he sell out because his music >>style changed, or because he's short. Because he's doing industrial for the $$, the fact that he's a elf just pisses me off. >> Chris, I really hope you are not one of those guys who thinks a >>band (or Person) is a sellout if they become famous. Trent, er, Glenn wasn't a sellout till he became possessed by True EVIL. >> My main goal in >>life is to become famous, not for $ or girls but so everyone can hear my >>music and I can get my point across, how am I gonna do that if I am only >>known as a "Local Legend" or in other words, "I have no talent so I'll be >>cool in my home town 'cause thats the only place I can get any >>respect"..... just an excuse. What the hell are you babbling about here??? You should seek help. >> If you trult knew what you were talking >>about you wouldnt have bothered making a stupid ass shirt. >> Sorry if that was long but ignorance pisses me off. I think you're pissed because you: A) Are jealous you didn't think of the idea. B) Don't have a sense of humor C) Are in a terrible band, that will never get famous. I know your band sucks. They've got too. You're in it. I'm PUNKASFUK! http://www.tir.com/~mrnobody/paf/pafmag.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 18:02:41 +0000 From: Aaron Lanham Subject: Kneel McDumbass Hey Niel McAllister or whatever your name is. So you worship Satan. Good for you. Who gives a shit? It doesn't take any balls to run your mouth over e-mail. So go have Coke and a smile sport, or go slaughter a chicken, but don't post anymore because I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. I laughed so hard it hurt. I bet you are probably just like that kid that lived in everyones neighborhood who would run his mouth from 100 yards away, but as soon as you got your hands on him he would start crying like a little bitch. Is that you Neil? Are you that little bitch that feels like a tough guy when he tells everybody how bad he is from miles away on e-mail? Your not evil, your pathetic, and I bet Satan laughs at you even harder than I do. ------------------------------ From: SCOTT BACON Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:29:52 Subject: Chuck Biscuits... Fiends Just a small bit of interesting info. I went to see Social Distortion the other week, and who was keeping backbeat??? None other than Chuck Biscuits. Gosh that dude hits hard. ------------------------------ From: AntiPunker@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:45:27 (EST) Subject: death to the PRICKS! You wanna hear some amazing stuff? I am an 18 year old high school seniour and i have been an abbit fan since i was 12 and my bro got me into the Misfits. I have been in a leather since i was 14 and i dawned my first spikes, Anyone who knows me doesn't think twice about me but today while walking the halls with my fce painted and some prick dared upon insult. People in this world need to just lighten up! Does anyone agree? Mykale Burket wisconsin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 11:19:23 From: Chris Schwarz Subject: Misfits Bible #124. This should be included in the next ish of the Bible, Mark. I was reading through a past issue of the Bible (#124) and noticed a lot of discussion going on about Rage Against The Machine and the Misfits. Someone said something along the lines of "RATM has nothing to do with the Misfits!". I'm not a RATM fan, and I realize a lot of Fiends don't want to hear more talk of RATM, but I think this is funny. I was looking through a magazine and I saw a group photograph of RATM. Ordinarily I would've kept on reading, paying absolutely no mind to the picture of the band - but something caught my eye. In this particular pic, THE DRUMMER OF RAGE WAS WEARING A MISFITS LEGACY OF BRUTALITY T-SHIRT!!! (This might even count as another Misfits sighting!). Anyway, I thought that was funny (ironically), seeing that after reading all the bickering that went on about RATM and the Misfits. Maybe RATM are fans of the Misfits too? Who knows... Chris Schwarz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 17:49:20 From: American Nightmare Subject: christoter i don't know christoter but i got my tape in like 2 weeks and its good. If anyone has a problem with him bring it to boston beeyatch!! AMERICAN NIGHTMARE ------------------------------ From: MePhiSto78@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:46:43 (EST) Subject: re: 293 dear fiends, i cant remember who wrote what, but no, my interview doesnt have a part where it stops at all, the only missing patrs are when i cut out 20 minutes of Dr drew talking about shit to some girl and glenn didnt say anything. And to who ever posted the last message in 293, yes, used music stores are how i found ALL of my smahin stuff. i have had BAD luck with the condition of tapes, though. i found Nov. com. fire, with a huge hole in the tape itself, that was bought by me, but given to my friend. in the smae mannor, he found a final descent tape, with a hair line crack on it, which he traded to me. but i have found...like tammy said, i found Initium sitting on a shelf in my local used music store. it was in good condition. it is the 2nd presiing, the one without unholy passion on it. i also found two copies of Nov. com. fire, which one of them i own, and the other awaits my presense, as soon as i get another 9 bux to buy it, which i had, except i chose to get final descent on CD instead....got that today, so i will soon have another copy of Nov. com. fire. i found 6 copies of Collection II on vinyl, with the barcode sticker on the back right corner, i am assuming this is black, correct ? Fiendishly, JJ PS If you dont like bobby steeles music, fine, but stop saying shit facing him. I think hes really cool. I have talked to him and I dont have anything bad to say. but if you just think bobby steele sucks because you say so.. e mail me at SkrEwU@G0Tohell. com <<~>>::hello from ANIMOSITY and FM RADIO ASSAULT::<<~>> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 23:04:08 From: Devilman Subject: SACRIFICE PROMO Feel free to enter the Danzig Contest here at: http://home.earthlink.net/~devilman138 Check out the icons on Mark's page. I'm using the Misfits and White Zombie icons. Until you call on the dark.... DEVILMAN138 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 01:28:10 From: Aaron Stillbirth Subject: glenn in cleveland hey, here is my little review about danzig in cleveland on friday the 7th. i got there a few hours before the show started hoping to get a minute to chat w/ him. well i got locked out of the parking lot because there two security guards and one me. i was the only one there and they wouldnt let me in the area. im not too big, and those fuckheads were quite large, so i did not see what the problem was. then glenn got off the bus and was walking towards the door. from behind the fence i said "hey glenn, hows it goin?" now remember im the only one there. and he just nodded at me. so im like "great" (sarcasm). well he never came back out. although the bassist lazie did and he was ultra cool. we talked for a little bit and he was more than happy to brave the cold with me. he seemed real exicited. he also wore a black flag t shirt on stage which really suprised me. not very danzigesque. well powerman 5000 is no longer on the tour, instead some band called coal chamber opened. i think korn must have changed their name. they were very, uhhh, loud. too loud. they pretty much sucked. not very original, but it was a short set. the singer thought he was on 'the grind'. then electric hellfire club came on. i can give these guys originality, but thats it. their music was not catchy and some songs were just way to long. their guitariat looked like the guitaist from sardonica. then came glenn. overture of the rebel angels was his opening. tommy came out and was smiling away, then lazie. you could see glenns shadow on the side, then he bursted out once tommy started mother. glenn was running around, swinging his arms, giving it his all. he gave too much causehe didnt sing half the song. tommy and lazie were jumping around like crazy. glenn leaned over the stage giving everybody a hifive. the crowd was really into it, bodies were flying, and they sang real loud. he played all the songs that other people listed, sacrifice, 7th house, hint of her blood, it coming down, long way, blackacidevil etc. then for the encore, they busted out with she rides and hand of doom. very intense. after the show one of my friends gave me a 'support group' pass for after the show. so i waited for about an hour then glenn came out into the crowd freshly showered and a line formed for autographs. so he started signing my stuff. while he was signing it, i wanted to test the waters, so i go "hey, bobby says 'hi'" ya wanna know what he did? tilted his eyes just an inch toward me and says (it was more like a low mumble) "huh". it was like he wanted me to know that he heard me, but did not want to even expand the issue. no smile, no change of expression. then that was it. i did not decide to press it. his voiced sounded terrible and he seemed angry at the roadies. when i handed him some old inserts, he held them up to the light and inspected each one rather carefully verifying ttheir oriniality. when he saw them he said 'old shit'. he did take a picture with me and signed all my stuff, including my bootleg glossy. he said 'this aint real, but ill sign it anyway" guess where he signed it? right smack dab on top of doyles signature. he seemed tired and worn out. his voice souned very raspy, and it was tough to understand. but he was generous with the autographs. i wanted to talk to him a bit more but security was nudging me away. those bastards just dont like me. well that was about it. he did have a fetish about using his hand as a gun during some songs. everybody, including glenn, was smiling away most of the show. they seemed very happy together. the funniest part of the whole show was: glenn did the entire show with his fly half down. no joke. he did not notice at all. i was debating whether or not to tell him, but i chose not to. even when he started rubbing his dick during hint of her blood, he didnt notice. very comical. thats about it. he really isnt that short. id give him about 5'8". alright, aaron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 15:49:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: Responses Since I took up so much space describing my night at the Danzig show I decided to hold off my responses for this ish. David Cook: While I agree with 99% of what you said, I have to argue that it IS better here in Canada. It's no Eden, but we have far less problems here. No Unibombers, no O.J.s, etc. Not to say we don't have evil people (Paul Bernardo for ex.), but we deal with them fast, O.J.'s just finished with his second trial! MePhisSto78 said: >....i am thinking about becoming a satanist and i This is a joke, right? Then later he said: >THX 1138, if youve never seen it before e mail me and ill try my best to >re-describe it. Well, I've never seen this version. I think maybe you have just descibed his original THX 1138, the one he made in film school and the basis for the longer version released in 1971. Very interesting... J-SIN misquoted and credited: >---------D.EVIL > ^^^Why would you spend so much time making a shirt of someone you >hate? > VERY good point. That was me, D.ETH (I know, it's confusing) and that's not exactly what I said, but you got the idea. Besides you agree with me, so I can't be too picky. :) Chris Schwarz asked: >It would be helpful if someone could break down the= > differences between I and II for me. You know, kind of like a "pros and= > cons" type thing. Why not just get the box? It's got both Collections and way more. Bye folks, D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca WWW: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ "You're skating on the edge." "I *am* the edge." --- Aeon Flux ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:30:33 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: radio i/v's wanted, MuchMusic i/v, Toronto show First -- I want copies of the Danzig radio i/v broadcast on 97.7 HTZ FM on Wednesday, as well as that recent two-hour "Love-Line" i/v. Will pay. Also looking for the full video of "Sacrifice" and "I Don't Mind the Pain" Second -- Danzig was on MuchMusic's "FAX" show for a bout 5 minutes today (2/8/97). There were short clips of the video-single for "Sacrifice", a short i/v where Glenn talks about his new style and the reasons for it, and a brief live clip of "Sacrifice" from the 2/5/97 Toronto show. Speaking of which: DANZIG 2/5/97 WAREHOUSE, TORONTO A few have already posted reviews, so I'll keep this *relatively* short: The venue was relatively small, but I think I like the size -- just right so that you could get right up there without trying to get right up there. - Sat on one of the leather couches during Powerman's set, so I didn't see much of them, and was happily surprised to learn that I wouldn't have to wait longer for Danzig to come on, because Electric Hellfire Club wasn't there. They are selling the t-shirts with the cover of Danzig 5, the ones with the Emund drawing as Glenn as the skull, the one of the first album cover, and two new ones: one has a silver picture of the Danzig skull, but it is drawn differently, and to me it looked sort of like the Motorhead skull. The other new shirt has Glenn from the cover of the SACRIFICE remix single, and this has the 1997 tour dates on the back. The set-list (read from L-R): MOTHER SACRIFICE UNTIL YOU CALL ON THE DARK 7TH HOUSE BLACKACIDEVIL HER BLACK WINGS DEEP IT'S COMING DOWN DIRTY BLACK SUMMER HINT OF HER BLOOD LEFT HAND BLACK BRINGER OF DEATH TWIST OF CAIN LONG WAY BACK FROM HELL encore: SHE RIDES HAND OF DOOM: VERSION One of my friends got me the set-list afterwards, which is virtualy identical to the above, except it did not list SHE RIDES in the place it was played, but did list it at the very bottom, beneath BRAND NEW GOD, HEART OF THE DEVIL, and SNAKES OF CHRIST, none of which were played, unfortunately. I really wanted to hear BRAND NEW GOD and HEART OF THE DEVIL since they are two of my favourite songs. Also, beside HER BLACK WINGS it said "intro-up" (see below), and almost all of the songs were crossed through with a thin black marker, with "yes" or "no" beside them -- which is odd because the yesses and nos don't match the songs they did and didn't play... The sound was good, although when they did 7TH HOUSE it didn't sound NEARLY as good as when I saw them in Detroit on Halloween -- at this (Toronto) show there was too much bass or something, although, for me, nothing can beat the energy of that song. Maybe it's because State THeatre is bigger and has better acoustics, but in a couple of the newer songs, the added pre-recorded stuff got in the way. For example, in HINT OF HER BLOOD, the "industrial" track they played over the PA system interfered with the rest of the music. Glenn's voice was easy to hear over the band, but when the PA stuff was added, it often became too loud -- which kinda sucked in the case of that song, because it is slower and he doesn't really scream the words, making it even harder to hear. That song would have been the highlight of the show for me if it had been played at State Theatre. At this show, SACRIFICE was probably the best -- or maybe DEEP. The only one that totally failed was HAND OF DOOM, which somehow got all screwed up. You could see the band looking at each other confusedly, because their timing was off or something. Other than those few glitches, the show was great. I don't see what problem so may people have with Tommy, I think he is all right, although I don't like how he plays HER BLACK WINGS -- slower in the middle part -- but no big deal. Several people on the Bible and on the Danzig newsgroup have mentioned how there is a little pre-recorded part at the beginning when they do that live now, but it's not really much...just a little beat that I hardly even noticed. The only thing is that you think it's a different song for a second until the instruments come in. My ride had to rush to work at 2am, so I couldn't wait around to meet the band again. Maybe next time... Finally, on a less-interesting note, Tammy - no, actually I don't think I was "off" regarding the videos; a significant part of "I'm the One" was shot on the Lousiana bayou (according to Glenn; and note that there are scenes with an alligator and a small river or lake or whatever), and there are a few scenes in some sort of "cabin." And, if that goof who flamed me was talking about "Killer Wolf" then he was wrong, because there is only ONE girl in that video, whereas there are two different ones (both black) in "I'm the One." So take that. Oh yeah, about the Glenn-drinking-coffee: AGAIN you have taken my comments too seriously Tammy. I was joking, just like the other person who said that "the band lied!" if Glenn has non-black clothing. -brett ------------------------------ From: parksr@brunswickmicro.nb.ca Subject: Dream band and shit Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:33:59 -0400 Ok here's my dream band : Vocals: Steve Ignorant (from Crass) 1st guitar: East Bay Ray (from dk) 2nd guitar: Me bass: Cliff Burton (reanimated corpse) drums:filthy rich bastard (from Aus Rotten) Ok i have a glenn rumor i want confirmed, a skinhead guy i know was preaching to me (although i'm a anachro-punk) and he knows i like danzig and the misfits, and he said he read in resistance records that glenn said if a race war he would side with the whites. I'm white but it still bothers me if i'm paying money to support a (possible) racist scumfuck. And i think that chris guy who made the anti-glenn shirt is damn funny. I think he's a sellout and maybe a racist but his music's alright. Sort of like i'll listen to skrewdriver and ignore the lyrics. "Don't give them their freedom cause they're not gonna give you yours Fuck Nazi Sympath" please try to answer mark or someone Static Boy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:14:54 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: Chud This has probably been asked before, but does anybody know Dr. Chud's real name? I been searching for it, but it remains just out of grasp. And also, does anyone know who starred in "Die, Die My Darling"? TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMM MMMM TTTTTT III MMMMM MMMMM TTTT IIII MMMMMM MMMMMM TTT IIII MMMMMMMMMMMMMM TTT III MMM MMMMMM MMM TTT III MMM MMMM MMM TT II M M MM MM M ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 23:52:38 From: Scott Perry I saw Danzig at Club Vegas (what the fuck?) in the Palace inn Saturday night. I got there about halfway through the first opening act, Cold Sore or something. They weren't bad but they weren't anything special either. I guess if I were paying more attention to them I would have been more impressed. Then the Electric Hellfire Club came on. Very . . . . . original. They were like a one man band with the singer being the only one who really made the band. They had a guitarist but he didn't really seem to do too much. The drummer had a drum kit and hit it once every other minute or so. And they had Yet Another Depressed Asshole With A Synthesizer in the back. The lack of talent was impressed upon me further by the fact that when my friend and I were talking about them after the show he said with a straight face that the "Dancing girl was important, too." But despite all of my negativity here, I thought they put on a pretty good show. It was pretty funny at the very least. Satanic pop music. Where is tipper gore when you need her. Then Danzig came on. He opened with mother and pretty much followed with what everyone else has been posting. The one thing that surprised me was the intensity of the crowds reaction to left hand black. They went crazy. I really like that song but I didn't know it was that popular. More so than any other song, the crowd went ballistic on that one. After the show I stuck around to get some stuff signed but then some guy told me that Danzig was only seeing people back stage. Not having read my Misfits bible from friday yet (I got it at 3:45 p.m. and I had to leave at 4) I didn't try anything daring like sneaking in. so my friend and I went to Denny's to wash our hands and get something to eat. Then we came back and I saw one of the roadies and asked if Danzig was going to be signing anything and he told me that Danzig was already asleep. So I guess he wasn't seeing anyone without a backstage pass. But that's okay. I saw a great concert. I encourage anyone who has the opportunity to see this show to go. It kicked ass. I really like the new stuff (always have) and it sounds even better live. Since I did not see him in person I was not able to give him the money I owe him for the bootlegs and since I have not received any input from you people in bibleland I haven't been able to decide where to send the money. So email me if you care it's ssp113@psu.edu Scott the Bastard ------------------------------ From: Misfitmole@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 23:54:26 (EST) Subject: NJ Misfits show in 2 weeks! I don't know how many of you know about this, but the Misfits are playing a show Feb. 28th at the Castle in Hamburg, NJ. I'm the drummer in Squiggy, and we're opening the show (along with Sardonica and the Slags-a great Jersey punk band). Details are sketchy, but I do know that it's a 21+ show, and I do believe it's the only 'Fits show scheduled in the US for a long time. Like I said, my knowledge on the show is limited, but for more info. call Sunrise Lighting (their putting the show on) at 201-764-1060, the castle at 201-827-1617, or our Hotline at 201-827-7720.. Cheers, Joel (Squiggy) ------------------------------ From: sickboy@netcom.ca Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:09:37 (EST) Subject: Glenn in the newspaper Here's an article I got from a Toronto newspaper about Glenn (the day of the show)I'm just gonna type up some of the interesting stuff: Last time around,when Danzig played the Concert Hall,the New Jersey band supplied the concert promoters with a contrcat rider that prompted giggles.To wit: "Please provide the following...Ten girls between 18-24.Must have a general knowledge of politics,religion and sports and not live more than a $5 cab ride from the venue." For their gig tonight at the Warehouse,there's no mention of females.But along with the usual staples(Guinness,whisky,Gummi Bears,Snapple),there's a rider that has to do with Danzig's coy nods to Satanism(a gimmick he plied long before ghoul-come-lately Marilyn Manson). In capital letters the contract stipulates:"ALL GARLIC AND RELIGIOUS ARTIFACTS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE FACILITY PRIOR TO ARTIST'S ARRIVAL." That's all that's interesting in the article.After that it just goes on to talk about Glenn being on Disney owned Hollywood records and shit,nothing new. As for the concert in Toronto it was amazing...besides it being too short(1 hour,10 minutes)and Tommy butchering songs.He butchered a lot of songs,especially Until You call on the Dark.He also had that stupid grin on his face most of the night.Me and my friends hung out after the show and met Glenn.One of my friends (who's a guy) jokingly asked Glenn for a hug,Glenn pulled his fist back as if he was going to hit him but of course he was just joking.All in all it was a good night. sickboy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:19:34 From: Kaye Elde <"kelde@mail.sisna.com"@sisna.com> Subject: dream band and stuff This is my dream band Jerry Only: Bass Doyle: Rhythm Guitar Glen Benton: Vocals Pete Sandoval: Drums Chuck Schuldiner: Lead Guitar I think that band would blow everyone away, Anyone who has Misfits pix for sale email me, and I leave saying the Misfits kick ass, and everybody else is a poopie head >From An Idiot Teenager From Mars ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 1997 09:22:15 +0500 From: Cotter Tim MSM GRPP US Subject: Jeff Herrin I got my item from Jeff Herrin. Apparently, he had an unexpected move. I would assume everyone should be getting there stuff soon. Still a bit disappointed though. He sent a 2nd press WAU with a reissue inner sleeve(screws up my ability to trade with it). Anyway, at least he sent it. I doubt he's trying to rip anyone off. For those you selling items-make sure you know what your selling and be to sure send items as soon a payment is made. I have bought, sold and traded(I wish I still had everything I had ten years ago) many Misfits items over the last 18 years and doing this will avoid any confusion. Also, CONDITION relates directly to the value of particular items. Just because you have rare piece it doesn't always mean it worth a lot if its beat up. However, value is subjective. If someone is only missing one item from completing a collection they will probably pay whatever for any condition, an then upgrade later. Tim ------------------------------ Date: 10 FEB 97 09:20:50 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: John Christ Julian Baldry said -> >Maybe none of them look 'evil and pissed off' these days because they >have some new, decent material to play and there's no >Yngwie-wannabe in the band... just a thought. John Christ was no Yngwie wanna-be!!! His licks (along with Von and Biscuits) defined the Danzig sound, maybe thats why Tommy Victor tries to copy them (and pretty well I must admit) in the live show. They had new and decent material to play on each of the other four albums, much more decent material IMHO, but thats not the point. Christ, Von and Biscuit were the sound of Danzig, the old Danzig that I loved. Glenn may have written all the songs but those guys made it happed. I'm not saying the new guys are less talented or whatever, I'm just saying I preferred the old line up and I dont like industrial, period. Shaun Young said about his nightmare band -> >vocals: rod stuart >1st guitar: bruce springsteen >2nd guitar: bobby steele >bass: ben matlock >keyboards: elton john >drums: jessy from "full house" Who in hell is Ben Matlock??? If you mean Glen Matlock from the Sex Pistols, you dont know squat about bass playing. As for the drums, I think Tico Torres from Bon Jovi would fit in much nicer.. Chris Schwarz said " I've been reading through past issues of the Bible >and there was some talk of what it would be like if the Misfits were to >record all their songs over again, but with better production. Well, to >me, that would be a dream come true. I think it would suck. Part of the beauty of the old recordings is that they sound so under-produced and raw. If you think this would sound good, just go listen to "Still Cyco After All These Years" that Suicidal Tendencies did. They rerecorded their entire first album, which was a classic piece of punk rock, and produced it all nice and metal, and it sounds like dogshit. and finally, several people said "Canadian customs tried to plant cocaine >on Danzig's tour bus. This is official cause it came straight from his >mouth. Hasn't Glenn been know to stretch the truth on a regular basis?? I have spoken ..... AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:19:50 (PST) From: bill avery Subject: record auction(pt.1) O.K Fiends this is what I have for sale. You know the rules, who ever has the highest bid come 3/7/97, gets the item.Send bids to sardonica@hotmail.com. 12inches: Misfits: Earth A.D plan9 not caroline Earth A.D possible test pressing, write for more details Earth A.D purple wax Walk Among Us 1st press, sighned by Doyle,Jerry,And Glenn 2nd press, sighned by Jerry and Doyle Evilive green wax, sighned by Glenn and Jerry Flipside Fanzine signed by Glenn, includes Zine Eyes to Despise(boot) Live N.O.T.L.D (boot) Samhain: Unholy Passion white wax Unholy Passion black wax Season of the Dead crimson wax w/ tour poster --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:30:36 (PST) From: bill avery Subject: record auction(pt.2) Here's the 7inches I have for sale. Misfits 7inches: CoughCool (not a boot) serious inquiries only! Who killed black wax 3Hits white wax/grey cover, sighned by Jerry Black Flag: Louie,Louie 1st press Six Pack 1st press T.V Party 1st press Nervous Breakdown 1st press Misc Stuff: 12inch: Black Flag Loose Nut sighned by Anthony Martinez Danzig1 promo disk sighned by Glenn Rollins Band End of Silence cd, sighned by henry(rare) promo poster for In My Head (Black Flag) Original Fiend Club issue poster (skull holding eyeball) Danzig3 box set ** I am looking for the following 7inches: Police story and Licorice pizza(concert give away) --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:39:04 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: RE: interview >JB- I know you know, so what do you think about the Misfits touring? >GD- ... I think its sad that the best they could do is bring back >1 original member. AH, I'm sorry, how many original members of Danzig are currently on tour? I'm not sure what exactly Glenn means by 'original' members, but I consider Doyle original enough. Would Glenn be happy if Manny came back? >And the thing that pisses me off is that the releases suck. >Collection Two sucked and I had nothing to do with it. >They didnt even release all the material that they had. There are >more songs that are sitting on tape that they didnt put out. Nothing to do with Collection 2? Ha! I'm so sure that Jerry and Doyle really wanted the public to hear 'Misfits' songs like Mephisto Waltz ...which they even didn't play on. Unless Jerry is lying, ok maybe, the Max's Xmas record was delayed because of... Glenn. >JB- Why not? >GD- Because they think that they can give a little over a long time >or some shit like that. It screws the fans who want to hear it. I can believe that there is more Misfits material sitting around. But I suspect that it's Glenn holding it up, not Jerry. Even Jerry's critics have to admit, if Jerry could make a buck selling Glenn's toenail clippings, he would. So why wouldn't he release material he knows he can make money on? ------------------------------ From: John Matthews <022588M@axe.acadiau.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:09:18 AST4ADT Subject: Misfits Tribute Show in Halifax My band Snagglepuss played a show in Halifax this weekend at Cafe Ole. They've got posters up for a Misfits tribute show Saturday Feb. 15. I don't remember what bands are playing but it might be worth checking out if your in the area. The club is on Barrington St. across from the old Roxbury. John ------------------------------ From: x_killebrew@vultur.emcmt.edu Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:25:14 -0700 Subject: stuff orgy of the dead was cool. sure to watch it alone is painful but if youve had a few beers and with your buddies it is pretty damn funny.Not as funny as plan 9 or dead alive but still funny.Hey man strippers are cool monsters are cool. strippers and monsters are cool.like chocoalate and peanut butter. Check the new issue of Monsterscene megazine out its got santo and estrus records stuff in it. If you like the misfits you will like the Estrus record label.trashwomen, the beguiled jack o fire ect. All this satanist stuff went out in the 80s with montel oh you know that shitty Crue band.and when slayer addmited they dress that way to sell recordsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ yawn ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ moving on if someone has some ecw on tape we out here would love to see it . Ecw was on for like a month when mankind was there.It was the coolest wrestling I have ever scene. If you find a copy of the Chemical people's album Ten Fold Hate it appears that Doyle and Jerry Only are part of the collage art partying with the Chemical People and porno stars. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:02:53 From: Xdisco infernoX Subject: ECW TAZ IS GOING TO EAT SABU ALIVE!!!!! Disco Inferno ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:28:25 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Misfits on Iggy ------------------------------ From: Addicted!An >Iggy To Get Tribute Treatment >Never to late for a tribute album, right? >Next up, Iggy. The Igster, >who if nothing else, has earned his time in >the sun just for sticking around longer than >anybody had good reason to expect, will get >the tribute treatment come August with the >Royalty Records release, We Will Fall: A >Tribute to Iggy Pop (tentative title). >The album, which will feature everyone from >Iggy disciples like the Misfits and Joan Jett >to contemporaries Joey Ramone and Jayne/Wayne >County,... >The line-up, so far, looks like this: >1) Misfits, "I Got a Right" ok, will they use the old live version, or will they re-record w/ Graves on vocals? ------------------------------ From: "EditorialStaff@EvilMagazine" Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:26:06 GMT-0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #293 I am Sick Of maralyn MAnson. Every body thinks he is a crazy as fuck, and he is just nutsy. Well to those People i have few things. 1. MAralun MAnson is an act!! It is not real 2. G.G. Allin is real and was so 19 20 years ago! I think if gg met Maralyn and saw wha the was doing he would bend MAralyn over and fuck his ass with a cock That has Broken glass Crazy Glued to it. Then When he got his joillies off that he would break his neck and shit down his throat. and proceed to sing I want to kill you whilst slicing up Maralyns fair skin and pouring piss into evry wound. And when he is done he'd take it home and Keep it until the next gig. Maralyn is a rip off. GG is cool. When was the last time MAralyn beta up his drum machine programmer? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:06:18 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Damn, aren't we getting a little carried away... Hello fiends... first off, I'm a day early but it sounds a hell of a lot better than being a day late. ***A BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE ONE PERSON WHO HAS BUSTED HIS ASS FOR US RUNNING THE MISFITS BIBLE AND MISFITS CENTRAL... HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARK!!!*** Tarry is correct about the Violent World lp. I have not got mine yet, but a friend of mine just bought one here in Miami. so we seem to be a little early. Chris - as for the skateboards, the original Misfits and Samhain skateboards were designed in 1987. the ad was in an issue of Thrasher (mark has the original date on Misfits Central). Last year Jerry was able to get a couple of cases from Glenn's mother. sold them for $15 a piece, funny since they were $42 and $43 back when they first came out. right now only person i know who has them is John Grimm. i was lucky just to get one of the extra blank decks from the case. the new ones are not bad, Jerry showed me one at the show here in Miami Beach last summer, and i'm sure the rest of the bible members saw them at the mechandise table at the shows. other wise i have never seen one up for sale in my years of collecting Misfits and Samhain records and memorabilia. D.EVIL - is right about the magazine shits, here we have this pathetic guy who writes for the Miami Herald, he reviewed Danzig before the show and was all wrong. yeah we got the same thing Samhain was a band from LA, no mention of the Misfits and he didn't even get the record titles right. though this was the same ass who said that Anthrax was coming down and the Misfits were opening. its a waste to read this shit cause they don't know music. i watch these guys cut down all bands and never give a good review of anything. still makes me wonder how someone gets hired to write music reviews and does not know shit. Chris Wilson - you mean like your pathetic attempt with that t-shirt shit and th gnome crap, right? Misfits 101... the bootleg thing... i hate to point this out, but more than half the Misftis bootlegs sound like crap. i have several i would not even waste my time putting on my collectors list since they are not worth the mention. and not cause the have originals. i know its hard getting originals and i hope that with the Misfits 101 stuff someone learned something that might help them get an original and start there collection. I gave up bootlegs for a reason and it was more then i wanted originals. First off, they are costly and they really have no value. I know that a lot of people are disagreeing with me and Mark, but the fact is they are fakes and some were made specifically to trick fiends like yourselves. I have one of thoes, and i was tricked and still would have not known if it was not for Glenn. Sound wise they are poor substitutions for the real thing. and you guys who are just starting to collect are way ahead of where i was when i first started. there was no boxset, if you were lucky you found the original LPs,the Die Die, and Evilive 12". otherwise everything came from out of state, at least for me. Second, the money that you don't put towards the bootlegs do add up to pay for originals. i know that some of the boots go for $10 - 40 with no problem. and some are the same recording. the Xmas 81 in Hittsville lp is on a cd now and is called something else. Hatebreaders lp might have a cool sticker on an all black sleeve, but it sounds like shit. Third, and this was sick when i found out. These things are pouring out by the tons. the last time i got a boot was in December of 1990, and i was reading an article a friend sent me, it pointed out that 30 new bootlegs for the Misfits alone were released that month. that is when i said no more. i know its hard to get out of you heads that you can't get original Misfits records for under $50. though it can happen. my collection is the proof of it. its all a matter of effort and time. and i'll tell you right now, i am searching again for more Misfits stuff, and the e-mail thing makes it a little easy, but i know i have quite a few letters to send snail mail. and the number of snail mail i have sent out would blow your minds, just to get originals. oh, one bit about the someone with the i have not gotten my records and i'm going to kill you bit. this happend once, and the guy was Chuck Cleaver who has and had a great rep. it turned out that the wonderful postal system had never left me the messages in my mail box for me not being there to receive the package. finally i got this "this is your last notice" paper and went down to the post office and got the package. that was on my white vinyl Die Die. shit happens, though with Dr. Strange, he was screwing me over and i threatened him. i said only a couple words that made sense to him. got my money back, though he never got the famous copy of Who Killed Marilyn. that will stay in my possession. i would hate to see that ass use it on someone else. well till next time, and more shit on collecting... Later to all the fiendies!?! Bobby, where's the bug spray??? ;) tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: #294 Answers and theories.... Marilyn Manson Must Die bootlegs G.G. VIOLENT WORLD SUCKS! Damn! VIOLENT WORLD (no subject) v w Re:chuck in hell?? Re: Misfits Bible #294 Correction.... D-Rodimus Prime Danzig in Cleveland and Columbus bootlegs Glenn and racism h. rollins aautograph punkrock action dream band Chiller Theater Suck my Violent Dick sixsins is on the money Re: Misfits Bible #294 Re: Misfits Bible, #280 Damn, are we getting old or what... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:40:14 PST Subject: COME AND GET IT From: undead@juno.com (bobby steele) They're here . . . The TIMES SQUARE CD's are in, and I'll start shipping out your orders next week. If you haven't ordered it yet, send a check or money order for $7.50 plus $4.00 S&H to: POST MORTEM RECORDS, P.O. BOX 358, NEW MILFORD, NJ 07646 Foreign orders should add $4.00 surface mail or $10.00 Airmail. BENEFIT CONCERT - FRIDAY FEBRUARY 14th CONEY ISLAND HIGH - 15 ST MARKS PLACE, NYC TIMES SQUARE JOEY RAMONE RONNIE SPECTOR THE INDEPENDENTS COYOTE SHIVERS SISTERS GRIMM BLACK FLAMINGO The show starts at 8:30 admission is $10.00 All proceeds go to GOD'S LOVE WE DELIVER TIMES SQUARE goes on at 1:30 am. Drink lots of coffee. Whoever the asshole is that's been talking shit about CHRISTOTER - fuck off ! ! ! Chris has contributed heavily to this bible for a long time, and he copies off old boots for anyone who asks and covers the cost of the tape and postage. When you fake other members Addresses - it shows what a coward you are. You are unworthy of wearing a MISFITS shirt if that's the way you act. Then again . . . Even though I haven't had the time to respond to the bible lately (the new release, and recording a new UNDEAD LP are taking up all my time), I read every issue. If someone posts a question to me I'll do my best to respond to you, but I'm just not gonna post to see my name in lights. It looks like I've found a lawyer for myself and Joey - though I haven't been able to get hold of Joey to let him know yet. Hopefully, he'll be able to convince Jerry's lawyer that it would be in everyone's best interest to come clean and pay me and Joey what's due to us, and we'll find out once and for all what the real deal on this whole 'settlement' was. There are aspects to this that I wasn't even aware of. Like when they used a picture of me and Joey on WAU - we should've gotten paid. I didn't realize that our faces are considered 'trademarks' or such. I'm optimistic as to how things will turn out. I'm still collecting articles/interviews. I know some of you have tapes of interviews with Glenn and Jerry. I could use copies of these. Email me and I'll tell you where to send them. If your opinion of me has changed since hearing my side of the story - I'd like to hear from you too. As for Mark Kennedy . . . HAPPY BIRTHDAY ! ! ! ------------------------------ Date: 10 FEB 97 15:25:55 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: what?? The Antipunker stated " I am an 18 year old high school seniour and i have been an abbit fan since i was 12 " what the hell is abbit? are you a high school senior? do you mean avid? i can see a typo here or there but ABBIT?!?!??!??! WTF!!! Static Boy said "he said he read in resistance records that glenn said if a >race war he would side with the whites. I'm white but it still bothers me >if i'm paying money to support a (possible) racist scumfuck. Glenn is NOT a racist. This thread has been beat to death a million times. I am white. I am NOT a racist. I hate those shiny head bastards as much as the next guy. In a race war, whose side can you fight on if everyone who is a different color that you is trying to kill you???? 'Nuff said AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: Leah Justis Subject: 5'8...5'shmate >>thats about it. he really isnt that short. id give him about 5'8". NO WAY! I'm almost 5'8 (and I'm a girl he he he) and he is sooo much shorter than me. ie If I was standing next to him I could easily shove his face right into my cleavage. Well maybe not easily, he'd probably fight back, but I think I'm stronger. About the show that is allegedly going to be on the 28th. It better not be 21+ because I can't get a fake ID before then! Leah ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: john returns? sixsins said: >>ruining the guitar parts by putting solos in everywhere he can squeeze a few extra >>notes in, and if he's not doing that then he's ruining the main riffs of the songs by >>playing the entire thing using pinch harmonics making every riff sound screechy >>and gutless. no, i think you just described john. anybody remember that danzig version of london dungeon from the early days? or the live version of brand new god...? for the record i thought tommy was easier to listen to and more tastefull than john, but i did think john was good. tommy is just better though. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:56:43 -0500 From: zycki Subject: iz aint done yet >Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 10:41:28 -0800 >From: Inzo >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #292 > >Look my brother, My knowledge of Star Wars is not minimal. I've been > =09=8BSNIP=8B > >Zycki, you may say that my knowledge of THX-1138 is minimal, I only >watched it once, it was very boring. Don't try to front on me again.=20 >I'll put a bounty on your head so big, every bounty hunter in the galaxy >will be after you. I should apologize, reading my post again it did seem as though I was slagg= ing you, but my comments were towards a general audience. I=B9ve been a passiv= e member of the Bible for close to 2 years, and if you go back to the early i= ssues you will see that the Star Wars 1138 mention was well documented. New peop= le would come along and mentuion it as if they were the only ones w/ this knowledge. But within the pass year the SBTB =B3sighting=B2 has by far bec= ome the most annoying misfits-related post. The Bible is long enough w/o 20 people mentioning SBTB every issue. Maybe a FAQ (like newsgroups have) sent to ne= w subscribers would prevent this [but then again, isn=B9t the bible coming to= an end soon?]. And go ahead, put a bounty on my haed. Aint been a bounty hunter = who could catch me yet. >Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:57:35 -0500 >From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) >Subject: Shitheads everywhere... >zycki - damn you really made a killing. that United Blood is worth at >least $80 -100. i got one helping out a friend, it cost him to pay me for >my Agent Orange - Bloodstains 7" plus $40 or 50 in cash. and the Cro-mags >- Age of Quarrel is at least $35+. which is funny cause a friend saw it i= n >Bleeker Bob's for that. and i know what they sell Misfits stuff for. I Bleeker Bob=B9 got their copy from John Joseph (according to Rick from 25 T= a Life). They also have DRI=B9s Dirty Rotten Imbeciles self-release for $50, whereas I got mine out in Long Island for $3.99. They=B9re prices are gene= rally over-priced and they won=B9t budge. I refuse to pay $100 for an original I= ron Cross 7 inch (at least for now). I definitely agree with you about record conventions. So many times I have= just put stuff down and people have scooped it up. I lost out on an original Ea= rache Records Morbid Angel 7 inch. that way. I find going to the out-of-state de= alers first usually reaps better and cheaper finds. I always scoop up the rariti= es immediately. Even if I later find it cheaper, i=B9ll pick up the cheaper o= ne also and unload the previous one for what I paid [I rule I discovered a long tim= e ago, someone is ALWAYS looking for the exact same thing you are]. Keep up = w/ Misfits 101, I find it helpful and informative. =8CTil next time, zycki "Wicked men! Cease your antics, or I may be forced to assault you with the = U.S. Postal System!" -The Tick ------------------------------ From: WOLFER138@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:13:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Stupid fucks <<<<<<<<<<<<< Subject: message from steve warren to mykale burket >From: AntiPunker@aol.com >Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:45:27 (EST) >Subject: death to the PRICKS! > > You wanna hear some amazing stuff? I am an 18 year old high school >seniour and i have been an abbit fan since i was 12 and my bro got me into >the Misfits. I have been in a leather since i was 14 and i dawned my first >spikes, Anyone who knows me doesn't think twice about me but today while >walking the halls with my fce painted and some prick dared upon insult. > People in this world need to just lighten up! Does anyone agree? >Mykale Burket >wisconsin i agree that your parents did a very bad job. a very, very bad job. i'm so, so sorry, man. have you considered suicide? -steve- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:30:15 -0700 From: 20eyez Subject: Misfits Videos! Hey i was wondering if there were any Misfits Videos out there. Like a tour video or something, if there is how could i get one? Thanks... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:03:08 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: hey, d.eth! hey, things aren't better in canada! we may not have any o.j.s or unibombers but we have to hear about it all the time. the news is like: "ok, that's what happened today in the states, now time for your local news..." all us canadians do is drown in americana! i can tell you who the presidents are but i have no idea about the prime ministers. we're the tv generation, pal. i think all you americans should know that when i run out of toilet paper, i wipe my ass with an american flag. ah, god bless america. -steve- ------------------------------ Date: 10 FEB 97 17:17:26 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: still for sale Still for sale, all on CD Misfits Collection II, Caroline (not plan 9). mint. $7 Legacy of Brutality - Plan 9. mint - $15 Other stuff for you punk CD collectors. Import Dead Kennedys CD - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables. On Cherry Red. Autographed by Jello Biafra. The signature is real. - $75 or b/o. mint Angry Samoans - 31 Garbage Pit Hits CD. Very Rare on PVC records. All their releases prior to STP not LSD. - $50. mint Bad Brains - Rock For Light CD. NOT REMASTERED. This is also on PVC records, not the later version remastered on Caroline. Pretty rare. mint. Make offer. Anti Nowhere League - We Are The League/Live In Yugoslavia. One CD. I forget the label (i think its called ID). Pretty damn rare as well. Best offer. Mint. Social Distortion. Story of my Life Promo CD Single. Story of my Life with 2 live tracks and two studio bonus tracks. Make an offer. GBH - City Baby Attacked By Rats/City Babys Revenge. All on one CD on Roadrunner records licensed from Clay. Also very rare and in mint condition. Make offer. Email me at azawodny@mobile.bam.com if interested, or looking for anything else on CD thats old school. sorry for the non misfits posts, i won't post them again ..... AZ AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:35:54 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #294 >Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 18:02:41 +0000 >From: Aaron Lanham >Subject: Kneel McDumbass > >Hey Niel McAllister or whatever your name is. So you worship Satan. >Good for you. Who gives a shit? Aw, man... I just wanna be cool like the other people on the Bible! Satan seems to be the important topic of discussion here, and I wanna be part of the gang. Like, does Danzig worship Satan? What about that thing in his contract about keeping religious artifacts and garlic out of the venue? That out to be good for another round of debate on Satan. Is Slayer a Satanic band? I mean, the Nazi stuff I'm cool with, but if you look real close I think there might be some Satanic references going on in their logos and stuff. Is Marilyn Manson Satanic? Does s/he go to the same church as Glenn Danzig? When Glenn Danzig goes to the Satanic Church does he always have to be altar boy, or is there a Satan-worshipper shorter than him? And I'd really like to see this debate about Glenn Danzig drinking coffee resolved... because if Glenn drinks black coffee, I think that proves the connection between Danzig and Norwegian Black Metal, which we all know is the very fount of True Satanic Power. You think it's bullshit, but I was watching an episode of Saved By The Bell and one of the kids on there was drinking a cup of coffee -- with no cream. And he took 138 sips from the cup. You can call it coincidence, but I don't think so. > Your not evil, your pathetic, and I bet Satan laughs at you even harder > than I do. Sounds like Satan has a better sense of humor than you do... it seems my faith in him is well-placed. NEIL ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:37:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: guilty of being white christopher wilson said: >>Because he's doing industrial for the $$, oh, really? when was the last time you talked to him? static boy: don't worry once you're out of high school you won't care about being *anarcho-punk*. i promise! and glenn's not racist but why would he fight for blacks in the event of a race war...he is white, right? let's not forget glenn wote heart of the devil for willie dixon and was going to record it with him. are there any black fiends on the bible? just curious. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:37:19 -0800 From: Grandpa Atomic Subject: More Record Crap Thank you to Mark and Tammy for the compliments, I much appreciate it. I know why record collectors are called scum, I've been seeing it for a long time...I'm just trying to help, in any way I can! I suppose that's by sharing rare stupid info with people. But first, comments on regular mail... My dream band? I'd probably have four vocalists, six guitarists...I trimmed it down. VOCALS: Sakevi (Gism) Bobby Soxx GUITARS: Greg Ginn (Black Flag) Reverend Horton Heat BASS: Jerry Only (Misfits) DRUMS: William Hooker if I wanted a punk or hardcore drummer, there's eight zillion, so I just picked that arty William Hooker...but he is the best drummer I've ever heard, so... These guys seem like they'd make quite a unit. There's been bazillions of great musicians over the years...I just picked some names off the top of my head. To the guy talking about GG Allin vs. Marilyn Manson...did you ever meet GG? Did you watch him sing songs called "Eat My Fuck" with huge nazi symbols across his bald head? Ever see him getting people to puke in a bowl and sucking the whole thing down? Ever see GG beating the crap out of the smallest weakest girls he could find? See him attacking random folks tooth and claw? The answer to that is: I have. GG Allin was an asshole, in every sense of the word. Maybe it would be forgivable (except the Nazi part) if his music didn't suck so much...he's so fucked up, perfect example of the hicks in waiting we have out in the world. Him and the A.G.'s...old school nuts. He basically took Iggy's old routines, made them violent and stupid, and played bad music. Fucking putz. Marilyn Manson's a dork, yeah, and his music sucks too, and he's so fake...my friend went to catholic school with him, he's really arrogant now, and can't believe people who don't like him. But GG is the worser of two evils. But even GG's not as bad as Skrewdriver. I may be a collector, but I don't collect GG or Skrewdriver, for various reasons. There's not a handbook telling me I have to. But since they're both dead...at least the air is slightly cleared, if you want to know about real world problems read Profane Existence, there I'm done. About Violent World...lets put all crappy bands on a comp, let them ruin some Misfits songs, and sell it! Over-saturation is so great! This thing is garbage. Earth Crisis...let's get some pro-life vegetable fascist vegan reich violence monger backstabbers who don't back up their threats with standing ground who believe all meat-eaters should be put in a closet, in the dark, with no-lights watching animal slaughter videos whilst Zyklon-B is filtered through the vents...Earth Crisis' politics are so Aryan fucked, it's ridiculous. White pride pales in comparison to Earth Crisis' "superior body" mindset, and they seem to hate sellouts unless they themselves do it, and they're on the Victory label which puts out the 90's Skrewdriver One Life Crew's record...but I digress. I think you don't want to hear it. Their song sucks, but all the other bands suck too, this comp is trash. And fuck racism! Fuck fascism! Fuck the hardline! Let me live my life, I let you live yours. Words, not fists. But I'm not accusinog any of the other bands of being racists, or even jerks, I'm just saying I don't care for their music. A funny quote from Shane White about tribute albums..."It's like having a dildo or a real cock. I'll take the REAL COCK!!!" Dead on, in his own special way I guess. And maybe Jerry is a money-scrub, and maybe Glenn is an arrogant bastard who sold out and makes bootlegs, and maybe Doyle is a lousy guitarist, and maybe they had a revolving door of troublesome drummers but the point is they made some of the best music ever so stop harping on their traits, listen to the fucking music and keep quiet! Nobody's perfect, except maybe you in your eyes. I love the Misfits records...that's what matters. The box set is aces by the way...don't waste money on anything else, you non-collectors, just get the box set. As for the new Misfits, at least Jerry is doing something, and moving on. They're still great. They are not as good as the old Misfits...maybe no band is or was, but in terms of all time punk bands the new Misfits make at least the top 100, which is saying a lot, cuz there were hundreds of thousands of punk and hardcore bands throughout the years. We'll see how the new album stacks up...it's make or break, in my opinion. If it's bad...I still have all the old records to listen to, why wouldn't I listen to those instead? Jerry and the band have to take this into consideration, definitely. They already have, I'm sure of it. Now, some more record assistance. I got a few questions via e-mail, some trade offers, send more I'm happy to help out if I can. My real name is Matt, if Grandpa sounds stupid...I'm 26, I'm the oldest guy in the room at some hardcore shows these days, thus the nickname. This is a mini-FAQ on record collecting. Q: Why are these records worth so much? A: The basics are supply and demand, and time must be taken into consideration. Let's take a sample band. In 1978, the Legionaires Disease Band record their classic "Rather See You Dead b/w Downtown" EP on Disease Unlimited out of Texas. 500 copies. 7". Right away, each member of the band probably grabs ten copies for themselves, family and friends. This leaves about 450. It seems, with all these bands, that a bunch always get ruined. If nearly all are ruined (ala Gears, Hugh Beaumont Expierience) the record seems to be worth a LOT more these days. So now we have 400. At least 50 of these were bought by people long gone from punk. The records are put in a box, it goes into their middle class attic, and is forgotten about for many many years, probably forever. Once in a while, some punk finds some old scenester who has all this stuff and buys it all off them...that's called wicked luck. I did it once, got some decent stuff. Now we have 350. Fifty original scenesters have it, they know it's worth a lot these days but want to keep it to remember the old days. Now we got 300. Now there's damage over time. This is the real killer. Anywhere from 10-200 records can be damaged this way. People don't keep 'em in shape, they're trashed. Let's say 100 are gone there. 200 left. There's probably at least 800-900 hardcore scum record collectors in the world who know ALL about this stuff. Foreign folks pay more cash. Around 250 records from the original are scattered around. The hardcore people fight for them. They go up. Now stuff like KBD comes out. The band gets publicity to an ever wider audience. Goodbye! Things rocket up into the hundreds very easily. The smaller the print run, the more cash. Q: Where's a good place for a sampler of rare early punk? A: So you heard some old stuff, but you haven't got a chance in hell of getting the originals. But you want to hear more...you don't need to hear every song, just a sampling. Alright, cool. There are a few places you can look. First of all, there are a few series' that are putting stuff out. There is Killed By Death, the big one. Killed By Death has the following volume #'s...1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.5, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16, 26 and 77. 11 and 16 are garbage. 5-7 and 13 are rare, came out in the 80s. 1-4 came out a long time ago (the 80's) in Europe, in an edition of 500. They were regarded as the best punk comps ever. Luckily they've been officially reprinted. Get all four, they're some of the best stuff. Distros like Vacuum (the best and most reliable place with the best prices, they're great!), Sound Idea, Busy Kids...etc, have them. 8.5, 9, 10 and 12 are being put out by some folks now. I know who's doing them, but I can't tell you. They're pretty great, fairly widely available. 11 and 16, as I said, are horrible. Remember, these are bootlegs. Anyone can slap them together. Some people go for quality, some go for the quick buck. You can't really do these officially, because you would need the okay of all the original bands for copyright reasons...good luck finding them! So, thus, bootlegs. Okay. 26 is kinda hard/easy...you don't need real connections to get it, but Sam Goody won't have it. It's all Canadian stuff, it's alright. Finally, 77. Just came out, 300 copies...AWESOME stuff. I'm trying to find one myself for under $30 (I may have to pay the $30!) It's hard to find, okay? Another good series is Bloodstains. Unlike KBD, Bloodstains focusses on a scene. There are six...three by an unknown American hero (I know who did KBD #1-4 and 8.5-10 and 12 but I don't know who did the Bloodstains, but whoever he is, he's cool 'nuff!) Texas, California and Midwest, and three by a German, UK, Europe and Finland. The American ones are good. They only have 2-3 duds on each, out of about ave=18, which is quite good. In comparison, KBD #8.5-10, 12, have about 2-3 duds each, #5-7, #13 and #26 have about 5-8 duds, and #1-4 have no duds (they're THAT good). All of these have plenty of classics too. The European ones are not only really hard to find (the Bloodstains and KBDs are available at the three reliable distros I listed above...their web pages: http://www.interlog.com/~tedwong/vacuum.html http://www.urbekah.com/busykids http://www.ezbizware.com/soundidea ...I know all three of the head honchos, they're all great guys, reliable, and well-priced, support 'em! I will stake my honor they'll send you your stuff, none of them have ever ripped me off in dozens of orders) but they're not as good. They're done differently...instead of the best song off each band's EP (at least in the bootlegger's eye) they put the whole one on, and some bands only had one-two really great songs for the ages, and some had none. Finland, known for it's early 80's hardcore, has horrible punk 77-79 on their comp...the UK and Europe ones are a bit better. You won't find these anyway though, so don't worry. Other comps come out time to time with old punk on them...some are good, some aren't...I know about most of them, e-mail me for comments or if you want tapes. Get the KBDs/Bloodstains you'll do alright. As for who are these bands? Scum heaven. You ain't heard most of them...you'll like a lot of them, if this turns out to be your sound. Remember, this stuff is from 77-82...hardcore took over 83 or so, so this stuff may be raw punk but it's not thrash. Also, even if you love, say the Eat, they got new wave later, and their later stuff is pretty bad. If you love the tracks and say you wanna go get their EP...don't. It's way too expensive and the stuff isn't that good...stick with the tracks on the LP. The Misfits are probably about 100,000x bigger than the bands on these comps...but not nescessarily much better...some of these bands are AWESOME. Q: How do I know I'm being ripped off? I like ________'s music, but how do I know what stuff to get? Blah blah blah... A: Finding out about this stuff is pretty DIY. There isn't, say, a book out there with a price list, tons of info, quality guides on the boots (except Mark + Tammy's great look at the Misfits...only a true fanatic can do that much! ;O) ) so you'll need to do your homework, ask around, find stuff out. Don't let yourself be ripped. There are some people on the 'Net who know about the stuff...e-mail us, some of us are nice and will help people who are nice and interested in the stuff. If you just go and buy something, there is a 75% chance you are getting ripped-off, big-time. At least. All bands have albums worse than their other stuff. All bands can have crappy bootlegs. Nothing is guaranteed, and in the record buisness, pretty much nothing is guaranteed. I can't stress enough, if you don't make sure to know what you're doing, you will get burned. I got some e-mails about this, refer to my last post. IT IS INSANITY. Q: What about reissues? What's up with them? A: It seems every punk band from back in the day left a huge shoebox of tapes under some girlfriend's bed. The guys who sang these songs and their friends on the instruments are 99% of the time LONG GONE from the scene...few bands stick around this long, and if they do, they usually only have one original member or so left. But sometimes the tapes get unearthed, and people get happy. Then someone grabs a band's original EP and tosses a bunch of new stuff on it. In general, I am skeptical of this stuff. Sure, the Authorities had one of the best punk EPs ever, but putting ten unreleased tracks with that EP onto a record...questionable. Nobody's really heard the other stuff. There's a reason it was on all those old tapes! Gawd! I would be skeptical of these. There are labels out there completely reissuing just original EPs, and some are good (EV) and some are evil conmen (Lost and Found). And there's always bootlegs. Reissues are great, they save you a lot of cash. As for discographies...of a great band, these are a godsend (for an example, the Misfits box set is one of the best put together and most representive box sets I've ever seen). "Here you go, $900 worth of records on a $10 disc!" Er, thanks. Sure, sometimes these are corrupt, and a lot of the time have crap info on the bands, sometimes even getting the songtitles wrong, but point is, the music's there. If they have all sorts of information and they're even official, even better! Q: What about live tapes, and tape-traders? A: Tapes are cheap. Even if they suck, you have something you can tape over. My opinion is why the hell not? Old, unreleased stuff from obscure shows, or big bands like the Sex Pistols live tapes can be great stuff to listen to in the car, and it's nice and cheap. Sometimes you hear new songs. The sound quality isn't always great, but it's live, and I've always gotten slack for liking live sound where most people would prefer studio. Whatever. I actually really like Evilive...gee, don't sue. So just give it a try. Don't expect really classic songs no one's heard of ("Hey, I thought it would be an unreleased Sex Pistols album!") but expect fun stuff to buzz through a few times and tape over. Some collectors will make you mixes of all sorts of stuff...consider yourself lucky, some of that stuff is really great too. Just request! If you get ripped off on one tape, it really doesn't matter. So someone stole your tape. Whatever. I don't take extreme precautions on tapes, I just get a # if I can...again, whatever. Tapes really are a no-lose situation, unless they cost much cash, and they probably never do. You can get like tons of dollars of music on one tape at a great price. Okay, that's enough for now. E-mail me on whatever, I love mail. See ya guys later. Keep punkin' around, and watch out in those Misfits pits! I'll trade too...I'll send you my want list, some of the stuff on it is worth $5, some of it $250...who knows. Send your want lists to me too, my record collection boggles the mind. Rock rock rock, GRAMPS "What would be nescessary to get the Beatles back together again?" "Three shots." - Crunch, Esetra-Mente! EP liner notes ------------------------------ From: MR BENJAMIN W BARNARD Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:44:38, -0500 Subject: Misfits IRC? I'll try to be brief......I am new (1 day) to IRC and don't really know what the hell I am doing. I downloaded a Mirc (?) program and spent about 4 hours the other night trying to figure out what is what. I guess what I need to know is which "server" (forgive any misnaming on my part) the Misfits chat is on. I would like to make it there, and any help from you guys is appreciated. You can e-mail me at LCBL95A@prodigy.com Thanks in advance....but be forewarned, I have caused many a headache (possibly a suicide or two) trying to get these wacky computers explained! BEN ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:29:49 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #294 Hi Fiends!! Ok here are my dream bands: Vocals: TIM (VOD) Guitar: Porcell (shelter) Bass: Me (Tom Undermine) Drums: The guy from Sepeltura or Vocals: Mike Patton (Faith No More) Bass: Andrew Wiess (Rollins Band) Guitar: Bo Steele (Four Walls Falling) Drums: Chuck Biscuits (Danzig) Keyboards: Simon Mcilroy (neurosis) as for this: > I think you're pissed because you: > A) Are jealous you didn't think of the idea. > B) Don't have a sense of humor > C) Are in a terrible band, that will never get famous. I know your band sucks. Angel sin and the Creature feature kick ass! So shut your hole you self righteous loser! > They've got too. You're in it. > > I'm PUNKASFUK! ------------------------------ From: "LAURENDEAU LUCIE A." Subject: eXc + Undead request... Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:34:21 -0500 (EST) 1st: TAB HOLLYWOOD: so, Earth Crisis call themselves a 'Punk Band' hey??? They probably said that while they were all drunk and eating burgers!!! 2nd: I was wondering if a fiend could make a .wav or .au of the Undead cover of the Beatles, it's on the 'Live SLayer' Vinyl as a bonus track and it's sold out... thanXXX The Rat-Monkey! ------------------------------ From: MePhiSto78@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:23:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: is glenn a sellout ? Dear fiends I cant remember, but whoever wants a copy of the glenn on the love line show, e mail me at MePhiSto78@aol.com and I will give you information about making you a copy on tape. and CrhistoTer, do you think you could send me a list of what you have, and your address, or what have you, so I can figure out what I could get and I will sned you the money. So I want to become a satanist, why is that such a big deal, if I said I wanted to become jewish or catholic, you wouldnt have said shit, now, would you ??....to whoever was talking about me and satanism... I dont think it will happen so dont make a mess of your pants. and I wasnt just saying this because I read its his b-day, although I didnt know when marks birthday was, because I dont know him, but....sorry its late...... HAPPY BIRTH DAY TO MARK and I think I speak for every misftits fiend when I say: THANKS FOR ALL YOUVE DONE, WE APPRECIATE IT A LOT !!!!!!!! ok, im done. have a fiendish day. Jordan PS anyone can e mail me for info on the loveline w/ glenn tape. my e mail is above. later. -"chicks get moist when they here about the....the kelm.."- Adam Corola -"..can you get rid of bodies in there ?"- Glenn Danzig -love line- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:34:48 -0500 From: Ron Jeremy I think that people should learn to spell, and develop a firmer grasp of their language. It seems many people here don't know how to write a proper sentence and/or how to be articulate. Oh well. ANYWAYS...As for selling out, it's the first thing I plan to do when I make it big. I'll do any comercials I can, Masengail, Always, Depend, etc. It all goes with my plans of world domination!!!! Exploit everyone--but be nice about it!!! ------------------------------ From: The Man That You Fear Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:16:56 EST Subject: Re:Glenn, a sell out? Glenn is not a sellout. End of story. The reason why he turned industrial is to let aout his true emotions. Another thin Chris, you should not dis a band you have never heard. J-SIN a is an increddible artist and so is the rest of his band. Have you heard them? I think not. Who are you to judge what you don't know about. Ignorant fuck. ------------------------------ From: The Man That You Fear Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:19:48 EST Subject: Re: Chuck not punk!!! Hey gfk, in your last submission you said that Chuck is punk. FYI: He isn't. Unless you consider Danzig punk (they're not). thanks sw ------------------------------ From: MePhiSto78@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:38:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: bobbys new band just to let anyone who cares, know, that bobby steele has a new band coming out, they are called Times Square. Love ya, AA Fiendishly, Jordan ------------------------------ From: MePhiSto78@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:44:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: misfits and samhain bootlegs.. by the way, if anyone does want a copy of the 3 bootlegs that i do own, you can e mail me for information these are the bootlegs that i have that i can make copies of, because i cant make copies of my vinyl stuff. Misfits: Vampira: 74 minutes recording dates: passaic NJ '81 ambionic recording sessions '81 new york '79 dearborn, MI '83 Psychomania: 73 minutes recorded at: washington, DC '82 Samhain: Black Dream: 56 minutes 6 tracks from live show (no location given) on 2-5-85 also contains original mixes for unholy passion LP, studio demos for lords of the left hand, novembers fire, and trouble; also has radio interview with glenn and steve zing/ preview for black dream I also have 2 misfits bootlegs, but they are on vinyl, and arent worth shit. i cant make copies of these. but just for your information they are: return of the fly and we will have our revenge. i will be gone the 16 through the 21, i wont be able to answer mail, so dont think i am ignoring you. fiendishly, Jordan PS i dont want to hear anyone telling me im no real fan, because i dont have any of the old stuff. 1st, im 14. 2nd, i dont have heaps of money to buy the quality stuff, ide LIKE to have. 3rd, there arent any places i know of where i can find the older stuff on vinyl. if anyone knows of any places in san diego, CA, let me know. 4th, dont think because im 14, i will rip you off, i will not rip off any one who wants a copy of something from me. NEWS FLSH: i just got this. thanks tim. >Subj: Chud info >Date: 97-02-10 22:27:06 EST >From: dherrman@acme.csusb.edu (Daniel Herrmann) >To: MePhiSto78@aol.com > > You may have already known this about Chud >He played with Dan Kidney & The Pulsations for about 8 years >before joining Sardonica in 1990. In '93 or so he started playing with Jerry >and Doyle in Kryst The Conqueror. Mark from the Bible has his last name, >but won't give it out. later, fiends Jordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 00:02:37 -0330 (NST) From: Shaun Young Subject: Re: DEATH TO PRICKS!! I couldn't agree with you more. hear this. i go to a graduate school where i am completing my doctorate in eastern religion. i have been been the largest GWAR fan since i was 11. my fav dude was always Balsac. when i was 13 i got my first 2-foot foam penis for christmas, only if i could have seen my face when i saw that sticking out of my stocking. anyway, i saved my money up and bought an axe. after a while i got the whole suit. after much experimenting with colognes i mastered the right smell. i couldn't believe what kids used to call me at school...things like smellhead, bigdick, and wierdo!! can you believe that shit? anyway in highschool i met a girl that liked me for who i am. she thaught i was cute. she even startedto dress like that slave slut (can't remember her name). we had some great times. these days people don't say much to me. so my advice is to you...keep up your stolen attitude dude. their are plenty of poseurs in school just like you...keep lookin'. shaunikuss scrotum-assicuss. ****************************************************************************** All the power's in the hands Of the people rich enough to buy it While we walk the street Too chicken to even try it. -The Clash (Strummer/Jones) ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 01:15:43 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Danzig Signing in Columbus Just thought I'd relay my Glenn story to you when I met him Sunday at his comic book signing. I asked him how much stuff he would sign and he said he'd sign everything that wasnt a bootleg. So, I've got all my cd sleeves and as he's signing them he gets to my Earth A.D. sleeve that happens to be signed by the current members of the Fits. He realizes who has signed it, turns it over and says, "I'm gonna sign this one on the back cause 'those guys' signed it on the front.......those christian assholes.....I HATE THEM." Needless to say, I ignore that, and then he says he cant sign a poster I have cause it's a boot. I tell him that I've rarely seen any Danzig posters that arent and he says there are plenty, but there's probably more boots than real ones. So I say, "same with the Misfits posters." Glenn says, "thats because those guys, Jerry and them, make half of that shit themselves." I say, "you think so?" and he says, "I KNOW SO!" Overall, he was pretty cool, but he definately had a hang up with Jerry, and when I gave him a copy of the Devilock demo, he chuckled and said he'd give it a listen. Glenn's still a nice guy but Jerry kicks his ass in the hospitality dept. Just my 2 cents. Later, The Noss Devilock P.S. - For those of you who don't like Tommy Victor and don't play guitar, those harmonics he's playing without a wammy bar aren't the easiest thing to do. I think his playing is quite good, even though I do miss John. The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:21:36 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: A big FUCK YOU... ___ / \ | ----- | | | ___ | | __ / \ | | / \ ___ ___ | | | | \ \----- \ | | | | | \----- \ | | | \ \ | | \ | \ / A BIG FUCK YOU GOES OUT TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE JUDGED BOBBY STEELE WRONGLY. BELIEVING ONLY WHAT YOU HEAR, AND NOT SPEAKING TO THE MAN. HE'S A REGULAR GUY, JUST LIKE YOU AND ME. SHIT, HE EVEN TRIED TO HELP ME GET ANOTHER EMAIL ACCOUNT. I'D LIKE TO SAY HI TO MEPHISTO78, WHO HELPED ME GET IN CONTACT WITH BOBBY, AND TO FAY, WHO I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM. FAY, ARE YOU OKAY? ALSO TO CANDI, AND OF COURSE, THE MAN, MATT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 00:10:16 -0330 (NST) From: Shaun Young Subject: Poor ol' Bobby Steele can you believe this shit??? BOBBY STEELE is the most insecure dude in this "violent world"!!!!!!! bobby i don't care!!!!!! you are just cashin' in, like every fuckin' COck-ROcker, heh??? tell me...when you are makin all of that money like you want to, off of someone else's material, will you think about the actual contribution you made??? shaun. (i won't buy you fuckin' album...not until you change your name and write some "originals", SHAUN!) >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:48:58 PST >From: Bobby Steele >To: syoung@beothuk.swgc.mun.ca >Subject: What the . . . > >Sean, > > I take it you don't care for me. > > What's the problem ? I'm sure it's a misunderstanding. What can >you possibly know about me that would make you want to put me in with such a dorky >line up - especially after showing that I can create some real >kick ass punk rock. > > I take it you're just buying into Jerry Only's lies. You must've >been fairly new here, or you would've seen that I proved that he is a >complete liar - even to go so far as to say that "glenn is officially >out of THE MISFITS"; when the truth is that you can't fire the guy that >started the band - not to mention this was said in '95 - when Glenn had >already put THE MISFITS behind him. ------------------------------ From: MePhiSto78@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:20:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: moments like this never last..... ok i hope this works....... mis fits!misfits.. ........ Misfits.Misfits!.Misfits!!... Misfits!Misfits!Misfits!Misfits. Misfi- ''-ts!Misfits!Mis'':fits!.. ' ''Misfits!''' 'Misf it- s!Misf its!Mis fits. . Mis fits!Misf -its!! 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They'll give one of those to anybody, eh? 8^) Anyway, if you wrote me, be patient, I have a LOT of e-mail to catch up on.... THEMAXX195@aol.com said: << I was lookin at a Dead Milkmen discography the other day and on one of the live imports the last track was listed as "ASTRO ZOMBIES[Cover of an old Misfits song]". I was immediately sent into a state of shock and decided that I had to find out more info on it. If any1 knows where I could get a copy of this. >> This is definately on the "Live in New Orleans" show. I have been looking for this bootleg for a while, and I posted about it nearly 10 months ago, no luck so far... If you find it, let me know... Ans as far as a dream band?! What's wrong with you people?! Danzig/Steele/Only/Image!!!! Wake up everyone! Okay, it's off to the nearby state of Arkansas to work another 16 hours.... Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:47:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: Answers and theories.... Daniel Herrmann asked: >does anybody know Dr. >Chud's real name? I been searching for it, but it remains just out of >grasp. And also, does anyone know who starred in "Die, Die My Darling"? Chud's name I don't know... "Die! Die! My Darling!" stars: Tallulah Bankhead, Stephanie Powers, Peter Vaughan, Maurice Kaufman, Yootha Joyce and a very young Donald Sutherland. AZ said: >and finally, several people said "Canadian customs tried to plant cocaine >>on Danzig's tour bus. This is official cause it came straight from his >>mouth. > >Hasn't Glenn been know to stretch the truth on a regular basis?? Possibly, but he did mention it on the 97.7 radio interview Brett (not Frank) wants, though. The Electric Hellfire Club was mysteriously stopped at the border, so perhaps Glenn was covering up the fact that they had coke their bus. Or, maybe EHC tried to come across first, they found the stuff and then tried to plant it on Glenn's bus and get rid of them all. Maybe they found the shit on Glenn's bus, but he cut a deal to bust the even bigger stash on EHC's bus!(cue X-files theme) The truth is out there... D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca WWW: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ "You're skating on the edge." "I *am* the edge." --- Aeon Flux ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: "ADAM R." Subject: Marilyn Manson Must Die I have seen a bunch of posts about Marilyn Manson in the past couple bibles. I know this is the MISFITS bible, but I recently heard something pretty funny about this "band." I heard that the lead singer is........ KEVIN from Mr. Belvedere. You know that show about that fat British housekeeper. I don't know if it is true or not, but MANY of my friends tell me that it is true. Oh by the way, here is my ultimate band.... Guitar: Doyle Bass: Jerry Only Drums: DR. CHUD Vocals: Michale Graves Any Questions......? Laters..... ADAMNSHAME http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4165/ http://www.chapman.edu/students/areygers/ ------------------------------ Date: 11 FEB 97 11:58:30 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: bootlegs Mark, you brought up alot of good points on your post on bootlegs (which I won't reprint here) however, I think there are some valid uses for them. 1) Availability of tracks long out of print. As a collector of a bands music, I do what I can to get all the recordings of a band I can. Way before Collection II came out, I desperatly wanted copies of the tunes "attitude", "we are 138" and "last caress". a bootleg 7" of Beware was my only choice for $10, I had the songs I wanted to hear, and I didnt have to shell out several hundred $s for the real thing. In either case, Glenn isnt going to get money for it because I'd be buying a used record that has no "royalty" value in it. 2) Live recordings. Unfortunalty, alot of us dont get the ability to tape our favorite bands live. Even more unfortunatly, the bands we like never put out live albums (except for those god damn grateful dead). The only way we can get these is from bootleggers (or Chris) or other people who trade in these tapes. I think the internet has helped this situation out alot, because now we have access to trading newsgroups and mail digests that were really unavailable outside of say MRR or Goldmine. I belong to a digest that is exclusive for DAT tapers of live music and the amount of trading that goes on there is staggering. I think what the Misfits did made the most sense regarding bootlegs. They said "make all this stuff available on tape for a moderate fee that anyone can get". Why pay $25 for a bootleg CD that will sound just as bad as $5 cassette, especially of those old shows from 80s. This way, no one is getting ripped off, everyone gets to hear what they want to, and everybody is happy. My buddy and I plan to tape the misfits every chance we get this year on DAT. And now that we learned how to use the damn thing right (sorry for that real bad Oldbridge tape!) we will be supplying Chris with plenty of material. Just check out my tape of Social Distorion and D-Generation from the Stone Pony, it sounds great!. sorry for ramblin AZ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:07:59 -0330 (NST) From: "Neil T. White" Subject: G.G. If any of you have ever seen G.G. Allin you know it's true. Marilyn Manson is just dumb! It's a big fuckin' act (Alice Cooper for the 90's alterna-dudes). I don't think G.G. ever played a show that lasted for longer than a half hour without the cops busting him. Shitting on stage, rubbing it all over himself, parading around nude, pissin' and burning shit, beating people up and trying to fuck their girlfriends...NOW THAT'S SHOCK ROCK!!! Kind of makes all those other panzies look like giddy little school girls does'nt it? ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: VIOLENT WORLD SUCKS! Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 18:50:29 -0500 And I thought Danzig 5 was bad....Violent World is terrible. The only cool thing about it is that it is Caroline 138 (for all of you that get hard over 138 sightings). If are fortunate enough NOT to have this record yet, here's my review for you: 1. Snapcase- She Horrible 2. Pennywise- Astro Zombies Very cool, Pennywise does an awesome job on this song. They even do a better job covering Circle Jerks "I Don't Care/Live Fast, Die Young" on the Boarded Generation CD. 3. Shades Apart- 20 Eyes Starts cool with Glenn's Evilive intro..after that it blows 4. Tanner- TV Casualty Sucks bad 5. Therapy?-Where Eagles Dare By far the worst song. They should be shot for the way they ruined this song. 6. Prong- London Dungeon Should be next in line to be shot after Therapy? 7. 108- Death Comes Ripping Killer job, they even got the feedback right. Awesome job. 8. Bouncing Souls- Mommy... Funny. They somehow pull it off. This doesn't surprise me though because they were the only band that sounded good on the Descendents Tribute album. 9. Goldfinger- Ghouls Night Out I hate Goldfinger 10. Deadguy- Horror Business Best job on CD. Mainly because how they make fun of Glenn. I loved it when I heard the beginning of London Dungeon at the end of the song like in Evilive. 11. Sick Of It All- All Hell Breaks Loose OK I suppose. For those who care, this is my favorite Misfits song. 12. NOFX- Last Caress Perfect song for them. If you like them, you will like this song. I personally think they suck. 13. Earth Crisis- Earth A.D. Fucking rad. I have loved Earth Crisis since the All Out War days and love their version of this song. They perform Earth A.D. the way Glenn would have written it if he would have written it today. 14. Farside- Return Of The Fly Sounds like a lounge performance. Very Amusing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:24:51 -0500 From: Chris Schwarz Subject: Damn! P.S. To the person who mentioned something about older Samhain skateboards, etc. in response to my Scarecrow comments - WRITE AGAIN! I accidentally trashed my Misfits Bible and lost your reply before I got a chance to respond to it. If you could PLEASE repeat what it was you said regarding older model Misfits/Samhain decks and such - I'd be grateful. I don't mean to rudely brush you off or anything ... =S Chris ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:47:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: VIOLENT WORLD WELL, I'VE HAD VIOLENT WORLD ABOUT 6 HOURS NOW AND I LIKE IT, I'D GIVE IT A B+. I LIKE ALL OF THEM EXCEPT THE TANNER SONG, AND SOME ARE BORING LIKE THE GOLDFINGER, PENNYWISE,108, AND SHADES APART. THERE ARE ALOT OF GOOD ONES THOUGH, MY FAVS ARE THERAPY?, NOFX,EARTH CRISIS, SNAPCASE. THE BEST IS A TIE BETWEEN DEADGUY & FARSIDE. THATS MY OPINION. SO WHATS GLENNS REEVIEW OF THIS? CHRIS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:38:27 -0800 From: Fay Beckman Subject: (no subject) i just made this kind of neat crimson ghost block print postcard. if for some strange reason you want one (so when im famous you can say "she sent me a dumb postcard back in '97, the bitch..." or something) email me your address. i swear i dont know how to make letter bombs. fay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:46:29 -0500 From: Aaron Stillbirth Subject: v w ok picked my orange copy of violent world today. does anyone have pressing info for it? i didnt see any under discographies. anyways, i have mixed emotions about this album. some songs are incredible, some are a complete disgrace to the music industry. heres my blow by blow... snapcase - she : i like snapcase. they did a great cover keeping the good parts of the original while throwing their own good things in. it came out great. grade - A pennywise - astro zombies : never really like these guys, but their song turned out better than expected. grade - B- shades apart - 20 eyes : uhhh, weird intro. ok. C tanner - tv casualty NOT CASUALTIES!! - boring. C- therapy - eagles : how the fuck did these jerk offs get on this. where the hell is sloppy seconds?!?!?! - the chorus saves the song. D prong - ld : original. C 108 - death comes ripping : damn, incredible. very fast and tight. nice job. i give em an A bouncing souls - mommy : nice voice pal. wrong song to cover with that tone. only gets a D goldfinger - ghouls : nice touch with the speed up. it works out. B deadguy - horror biz : dave and the boys really knew what they were doing. excellent AND unique cover. heavy, fast altogether wonderful. very fuuny. i like the ending ALOT. their singer sounds like sal b. from sardonica A++ soia - all hell : hard and fast. great bass, drums were furious. sounded good worth an A- NOFX - an attempted cover of last carress : if i ever see these guys anywhere, i will maul them. they all deserve to die. that song was horrific, how can you fuck up those lyrics? they are all assholes who cant do a god damn thing right. did any one else notice how the singer mocked glenns voice at the end. yeah buddy, your voice is sooo much better. quit now you pussies before you fuck up anymore good songs. not even worthy of a grade. earth crisis - ead : anyone notice the guitar sounds exactly the same as the guitar in 7th house? i think it does. they are really good and reworked this song in a nice manner. grade A farside - rotf : never heard of these guys, but this is another great cover. almost too catchy. it is stuck in my head. the singer has the perfect voice for that song. A+ thats my take on it. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:51:35 -0500 From: dan sylvester Subject: Re:chuck in hell?? At 02:46 PM 2/10/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >Date: 7 FEB 97 15:22:56 EST >From: GKichli1@mobile.bam.com >Subject: re:chuck in hell!! > >Whats up with Chuck?? The most money he ever made and will make was with >Glenn. Dont get me wrong, Chuck is one of the best or thy best punk rock >drummers ever!!! I saw Chuck with Social D this year and he kicked major >ass. But he shouldnt be bitter with Glenn, at least he had a paycheck >comming in for 9 years!! I could have been pumping gas in canada for 3 bucks >an hour!!! > >gfk > Actually, minimum wage is around seven bucks an hour in Canada, 3 bucks sounds more like the states. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:00:24 -0500 From: Chris Schwarz Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #294 >> First, I don't know how many Bible subscribers skateboard, but you should= >> find this interesting anyway. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen= >> the skateboards with Misfits designs on the decks? There's a skateboard= >> company called Scarecrow that specializes in putting horror graphics on= > >The Misfits sell these decks at their shows. You can order the decks >directly through the Fiend Club, although I don't know if it's the same >price. Is that right? That's interesting to hear. I figured just as much since Jerry Only was posing with (and endorsing) the Scarecrow Misfits decks in the advertisements. How much do the Misfits sell the boards for at their shows? I have a new Misfits sighting to report (if anyone cares!). On the inlay to the cover of the Candy Snatchers' self-titled album, there's a picture of the band members. In the photo, one of the band members can clearly be seen wearing a Misfits t-shirt - an Earth A.D. one. Just thought that was neat ... >Chris Schwarz said " I've been reading through past issues of the Bible >>and there was some talk of what it would be like if the Misfits were to >>record all their songs over again, but with better production. Well, to >>me, that would be a dream come true. > >I think it would suck. Part of the beauty of the old recordings is that >they sound so under-produced and raw. If you think this would sound good, >just go listen to "Still Cyco After All These Years" that Suicidal >Tendencies did. They rerecorded their entire first album, which was a >classic piece of punk rock, and produced it all nice and metal, and it >sounds like dogshit. Oops, my bad. I take back what I said. I guess my original statement was just a little too broad in saying I'd like to see the Misfits' songs re-recorded with better production. You see, I agree completely that part of the appeal of the Misfits' sound (at least to me) is that raw, garage-y sound that contrasts so well with (and even complements) Glenn's voice. I'm not talking about a major overhaul of the Misfits' songs though, I'm talking about cleaning them up A LITTLE AND ONLY A LITTLE (some of the overdubs can be annoying at times). Like you, I would NOT want to see some over- produced, over-polished metallish piece of poop with the Misfits' name all over it. Chris ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Correction.... Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:21:16 -0500 Earlier today I made the post about how Violent World sucks. Well I was re-reading it and picked up on a mistake that I know some of you smart-asses will pick out right away. I made reference to how one of the songs ended with the intro to London Dungeon like in Evilive. Well.. that wasn't from Evilive. We all know it was from the the Ritz, NY 1981 show which was used on the Walk Among Us lp. Just thought I should correct myself before someone does for me. Later, Mark B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:34:11 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Rodrigues Subject: D-Rodimus Prime Hello fiends a few thoughts here: >From: "m.s.k" >Subject: Last=20 >Save your money. Use some of your blank tapes and record whatever y= >friend has. Contact christoter@aol.com and get copies of all that s= >from him. Chris Ternes (christoter@aol.com again) has a copy of ever= >or live track that has been circulated among collectors and he makes= >all available for $5 per 90 minutes.=20 this is what I do! This is what everyone should do! As a matter of= fact I gave all the bootlegs I have to chris ternes. I dont need them I d= ont wanna fuck with vinyl, I just want a nice tape. I know when I first started looking for stuff I wanted to buy all the boots I could get m= y hands on, no I regret I did I mean I w asted a bunch of $$$. But the= re are a couple of boots I think are kinda worth it, for example the vampira= boot is very good and you have a good quality sound on a CD. It bassicall= y has all the misfits live stuff they ever played, and will run you about $= 20. But outside of that I dont understand why people would need anymore t= hen that, just get chris to make a tape for ya and make evryone happy! >From: bellta@wku.edu >Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 15:28:28 EST >Subject: violent world >the violent world cd is a piece of shit. I like the tribute I think it is great. The music on it is awesome, = the only prob I have with it is that caroline could of put some pic=92s o= f the band, and maybe the tributes bands feeling on the misfits. >From: parksr@brunswickmicro.nb.ca >Subject: Dream band and shit >Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:33:59 -0400 >Ok here's my dream band : here is a thought my dream band: ANY of the original misfits lineups with Glenn! >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:39:04=20 >From: Tarry Carapezza >Subject: RE: interview >>JB- I know you know, so what do you think about the Misfits touring= ? >>GD- ... I think its sad that the best they could do is bring back= =20 >>1 original member.=20 >AH, I'm sorry, how many original members of Danzig are currently on= =20 >tour? I'm not sure what exactly Glenn means by 'original' members, >but I consider Doyle original enough. Would Glenn be happy if=20 >Manny came back? Well if glenn has such a problem he couldve gone back I mean he had t= he chance! The funny thing is as much as I love glenn he is playing the= same places the fits played and he is not packing them in like the fits di= d this summer,in the same venues! >Unless Jerry is lying, ok maybe, the Max's Xmas record was delayed >because of... Glenn.=20 The max=92s problem is the over dubs done by jerry and doyle and tons= of other people who played on that thing. IMO it is a way for jerry to = screw ex-members like bobby and joey out of $$$ I mean he takes over dubbe= d trax of doyle over bobbys. If he released it he has to deal with glenn on= all misfits releases he is gonna have to pay him. But I think the reason= he wont release it untouched is so he just wont have to deal with bobby = and pay him, instead he can keep the $$$ in the family by having doyle on= it. >>JB- Why not? >>GD- Because they think that they can give a little over a long time >>or some shit like that. It screws the fans who want to hear it. >I can believe that there is more Misfits material sitting around. Bu= t=20 >I suspect that it's Glenn holding it up, not Jerry.=20 well I suspect it is maybe jerry and caroline. Caroline can keep a c= ash cow like the fits, and jerry can have the old fits still alive to kee= p fans having the misfits on the mind while he can get the new line up going= . I mean as long as the old fits are still living and we all get so excit= ed for each single release of any new old stuff we will keep the fire alive = for seeing the misfits period. That is why I am excited for the new alb= um it gives us sumthin new for us to go to. I want to see this album just expload, and then they have gone on to new ground and then get all th= e stuff out, but as long there is stuff out there we are all going to h= ave misfits on the brain. Just a few thoughts I kinda lost what I was going to say a bit so sorry. later D-Rod ------------------------------ From: mf252888@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:50:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Danzig in Cleveland and Columbus Well we made the trek to Cleveland to see the famed master of darkness and Co. As I have read a previous post concerning the Cleveland show, I won't go too much into that other than some general comments. They opened with Mommy...er Mother I mean...heh and the show was a good one. Except for the damn stage divers who almost broke my neck. Hopefully, we will find the SOB and sacrifice him to the gods that be... In any case, it was my first time seeing Danzig and I was impressed by his stage presence. It was a good show. After the show Glenn was very tired and seemed drained. He was the only person who came out to sign things, the rest of the band was milling around on their own. Sunday we were in Columbus and this is a show worth mentioning. I saw the Misfits at the Newport, and Glenn packed this place. The floor was insanity. There was hardly any room and much carnage. We opted for the balcony which hung right over the stage. A perfect view. They did the same set list from Cleveland's show, but it was a much better performance. Glenn and the boys were fantastic..totally on. They all played to the crowd and Glenn pointed to the balconies several times. Lazie jumped into the crowd at the end too. (He did this at both shows, but this time he said he thought he wasn't going to make it!) Blackacidevil sounds terrific live, and "Deep" is still going through my head. A note about the band. Yes, Tommy smiles, but who cares. He is a damn good guitarist. He isn't John and doesn't try to be. Lazie is great. If you get the chance to talk to this guy, do so. He's very friendly and accessible. I believe that the person who commented about the Cleveland show was surprised about Lazie wearing a Black Flag shirt. He was a roadie for BF for 5 years. I didn't talk to Joey, but Dan_zig (the other part of "we" in this post) and my pal Dalurker each got a signed drum head with the entire band's sigs. Dalurker is selling his. If anyone is interested, please email me and I will forward the message. I'd have to say that this was the best show I've seen. I'd put it in the top 5%. After Columbus Glenn wasn't as tired as he had been on Friday night. He may have been having an off day. He gave the "devil" handshake to Dan_zig and then on Sunday Dan_zig gave it back...hehe Glenn looked at him like "You nut". ------------------------------ From: Stewart Muir Gallacher <9243471g@student.gla.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:27:11 +0000 Subject: bootlegs As far as bootlegs go, my advice to fans would be not to buy any bootleg CDs unless you are able to listen to them before you buy them. I have found that at record fairs most stall holders who sell a lot of bootlegs have personal CD players with them, and are happy for you to check out the CDs before you buy them. Everyone has their own opinion on whether they want bootlegs or not, but at least this way you know what you are getting. I think that a lot of the animosity towards the bootlegs from Misfits fans stems from the fact that a lot of the LPs/Cds out there are poor quality. If you collect other bands like Metallica, you find that the standard of some of the bootlegs (in terms of the packaging, sound quality, etc) is far superior, and a lot of the Misfits boots look as if they were thrown together by someone who knew very little about the band. Obviously you get rubbish bootlegs with every band, but in my opinion the Misfits releases have been particularly bad. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:29:07 +0500 From: "John B. Kendrick" Subject: Glenn and racism Last ish someone stated that Glenn would be a racist (or potential racist) because Glenn reportedly said that he would side with white people if a race war broke out in the U.S. I do not think that such an implication is justified. If a black or hispanic person were to side with their respective races, would that make them racist? I think that most people would view that as "racial pride" or "racial solidarity". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:40:22 +0100 (NFT) From: Richard Lundberg Subject: h. rollins aautograph Hi, does anybody out there happen to have a henry rollins autograph? Ive got one but i dont know if its real. It looks like some five year old wrote it. anybody who knows how the real thing would look like? /Richard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:15:45 -0800 (PST) From: Christoffer Jonsson Subject: punkrock action Achtung, achtung My punkrock/hardcore band is looking for a name, so if you have any suggestions mail me. No need to bother da bible with this. Since were not a cover band, it doesnt have to be some kind of misfits name Love + Respect XDX To all Swedish bible readers: Misfits will play with INTEGRITY in Vnersborg. WOOOOOOOOHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! MISHA!!!!!! --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:23:25 +0100 From: Franz Ardito Subject: dream band THE INFAMOUS CACOPHONIC ORCHESTRA guitar: tony iommi (black sabbath) vocals: jeff walker (carcass) bass: jerry only (misfits - hope you knew this one) drums: topper headon (clash) it would be pretty funny to hear these guys play together.. bye franz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:12:54 -0500 From: Christopher Coffin Subject: Chiller Theater Hey! I was wondering if anyone knows whatever became of Jerry and Doyle hosting their Chiller Theater horror movie show. Did they ever find a cable network to air it, or have they put it on hold for a while? I was also wondering who ended up getting the Kryst the Conqueror demos from the Super-Auction? I'd like to get a copy of it if that's possible. Sickly yours, Christopher Coffin Write anybody: Sick Smiles c/o Christopher Coffin 173 Stokely Dr. Chickamauga, GA 30707 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:37:52 -0500 From: ??? ??@???.???> Subject: Suck my Violent Dick >From: bellta@wku.edu >Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 15:28:28 EST >Subject: violent world > >the violent world cd is a piece of shit. >nofx is one of the worst punk bands of all time, and they did last >caress, and got half of the words wrong. the only decent one was by >pennywise, and they suck. they did astro zombies, and it was awful. >fucking earth crisis is on there, and they are perhaps my least fave >band of all time. they call themselves a punk band, yet they sound >like slayer. do not waste your cash on violent world. i was able to >listen to it for free at disc jockey, and it is terrible... > >tab hollywood You stupid punk, did you really think it would sound just like the Misfits??? I bought the CD and I think that it is ok. NOFX sucks dick on there version of last caress. The Bouncing Souls did a great job as well as many others. What kind of a dumb shit head would buy this CD thinking it would sound like the fits. Oh by the way NOFX only got like 3 words wrong, not half of them. Learn to count you stupid shit. bWo bWo bWo Walk Among Us - Misfits http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/9649/misfits.html ------------------------------ From: "JOSEPH M. NINOSKY" Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:45:12 PST Subject: sixsins is on the money Sixsins got it right. Glenn is a powerhouse of great ideas and one hell of a performer. The down side is that he is backed by a tribe of losers. Joey Castillo would like to thank his HOMIES?!!! He must indeed fuck off. The only reason I can see Glenn assembling this band of sideshow Ed McMahons is that they get in line when told and don't need to be told twice. Glenn had a lot of projects going on (Prophecy 2, comic books, cookie products, and, oh yeah, music) and didn't want to hear any talking back, so he got himself some lackeys. I'm sure Chuck was a handful, being a heroin user makes a person difficult sometimes. Unfortunately, Biscuits is one of the best damn drummers I have ever had the pleasure of listening to. His work on Lucifuge is incredible. It is just sad that things have come to this. Glenn needs some hardcore dudes who are into the music and the theme of DANZIG, rather than being a backup band. I just don't know where he is going to find them. I hope he does. ------------------------------ From: cfarrell@idsi.net Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:48:58 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #294 Hi fiends! Here is my quick review of the VIOLENT WORLD cd. Snapcase - She Strange. Its sounds very much like the Steps EP they released a while back. Not traditional at all. They've added a lead guitar, noise effect, which livens it up a bit. I like this cover. Pennywise - Astrozombies Traditional yet poppy. I liked this version, as its the most similar to the original track on the whole disc, but it's no Misfits. Shades Apart - 20 Eyes Much more up beat pop punk, mixed with the cool live sample of Glenn. Very melodic, lacking the raw power of the original. Tanner - TV Casualties Kind of evil sounding, with duel vocal tracks. Alot like the original, but lacks the "I love Lucy" ending we all know and love. Therapy? - Where Eagles Dare It sounds like Helmet with a lazy singer. I cool organ/keyboard sound in the background, with a solo ( I guess to add some exitement to a relatively boring cover) Prong - London Dungeon Industrialized (like Blackacidevil or something). You can tell its prong. It's pretty annoying aside from the Marilyn Manson esque chorus. It drags on forever though. I don't think the Misfits would make it as a techno band. 108 - Death Comes Ripping Very aggressive music, like the original, yet less than tolerable vocals, just like most of the tracks on this CD. I guess everyone cant be Glenn. He actually sounds drunk. Note the irony Bouncing Souls - Mommy... If Dave Vanian (The Damned) had joined the 'Fits, this is what it would sound like. Definitely not a track to remember. Goldfinger - Ghouls Night Out Not bad at all. I don't care for some of the re arrangements, but the music and vocals are fluent and tight. Its a good track aside from the Axl rose type scream at the end. Deadguy - Horror Business I saw them cover this live about a year ago. If you've heard their Cover of Black Flags "Police Story" on the Punk Rock Jukebox cd, you know their style in covering punk songs. Its pretty much the same, but its a cover of the live version, which is a real cool idea if you ask me. Sick Of It All - All Hell.... The music sounds good, but again the vocals lack any originality or heart. A track to throw out. NOFX - Last Caress The metallica version was better, lets leave it at that. Earth Crisis - Earth AD In my opinion, this is the best track on the CD. Very deathy, like all EC, and its very stompy, (like all death metal, go figure). It makes you want to kill people, just the way a Misfits song was meant to make you feel. Farside - Return of the Fly Actually quite good. Very Vegas Lounge. Reminds you of the original, yet it establishes itself as a good tune. I think it was actually comedian Jim Carey singing over a wedding band though, not actually Farside. OVERALL: This CD is for collectors only. If you are a Misfits collector or collector of the bands on this CD, its worth it. If you're just a mild fan. Don't waste your money, buy the Four Hits From Mars 7" coming out Friday on Fandango Records. Its better. I can't believe I waited a year or so to hear this CD. Too much of that Pop Punk style and not enough aggression for me. Tape it from your friend. OK, thats it: see ya. Tom Undermine ...devils are born in angels arms... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:41:48 +1000 From: John Derrick Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #280 HI. MY NAME IS STEPH AND I LIVE IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA. WE GET ABSOLUTELY NO INFO ABOUT GLENN OR THE MISFITS OUT HERE, APART FROM WHAT I GET FROM YOU GUYS. CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF GLENN IS GOING TO TOUR OUT HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE (I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLANS FOR THE MISFITS TO PLAY HERE), HE HASN'T BEEN HERE SINCE RELEASING DANZIG 3. PLEASE HELP, MY FRIENDS AND I ARE GETTING DESPERATE TO SEE HIM! GLENN DANZIG IS GOD!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:04:17 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Damn, are we getting old or what... Hello fiends... First off, Aaron, if you thought the fly being down was bad, the show here in south florida for 1995, he had big holes in his pants. though no one had the guts to say, Glenn you got some money, buy some new pants already. i really think he wears the same pants over and over again. plus i'm not the only person that noticed the holes. outside by the buses that was the topic of the night among all the fiends who were waiting for Glenn, Eerie, and John. Though Glenn never came out, probably realized he had some holes in his pants. Plus he is no 5'8". he is a couple of inches taller than me and i'm exactly 5'. only cause each time i have met him i never had to look up at him like with Eerie or Jerry. Brett, i know what the guy said, and he said cabin, where I'm the one was in front of that river, and also shot in a graveyard. no cabin. plus what he was talking about was Babes in Videos, not plural to the # of females in the video he was talking about. why do you alway take what i say to you so seriously. i was joking around with you. you can't tell me that some of that shit about detailing little things about Glenn is not funny. think about it, if he drinks coffee or not. more than half the people in this world drink coffee, it does not make him more amazing if he drinks the stuff or not. Sickboy, that article is not surprising. Glenn has an odd sense of humor from what i have heard. He was very proud of himself back in 1990 when he got the band Trouble off the tour. they were this nasty bunch, that was saying all sorts of shit about Glenn and the other members of Danzig while they were touring with them. in the Atlanta show, a close friend drove up to see them, since the threat of Danzig not coming back to Miami after Glenn pointed out how much he hated Miami Beach at the time. Well Glenn got this crazy idea to scare these assholes off, he knew they did think he was a satanist. so he got fake blood and wrote all their names backwards on their mirror in their dressing room. after that show they were no longer wanting to tour with Glenn. Plus the ten girls thing has been around for a long time. i do remember that someone wrote into Maximum Rock and Roll with the complete list off all items that were required for Danzig (all members) on tour. plus i did see some record store is selling the printed list from 1992 -1993 tours. but this includes, all the hotel info, airplane stuff, and show stuff. Misfits 101... Still knowing what to do... well as i said it is possible to get Misfits originals under $50. And it still seems to be right. I just found a red vinyl Collection 2, that VInyl Ink was selling for $40. it was still sealed and $10. plus i hate to rub salt into a open wound, but it was from a record store with a webpage. Also, once i get some info back from this one store, i will post the name of this place. they might have some LPs for those of you that would want copies of Earth AD, Legacy and Evilive on vinyl. i doubt the price would be high. Now i have seen some of you having good luck with what i've been talking about. Though it will be hard, and not cause lack of funds. A lot of places i have dealt with for years and even new places i'm contacting are giving me the same answer right now. Now Misfits records in stock, and we are looking for the same thing. Lately it seems to be a lack of Misfits vinyl out there. though there is no point in giving up. i never do, i guess that is cause i want to complete this collection as best i can. That should go for those of you who are just starting or want to start. It all started off with one auction and i had my first Misfits 7". As for Tim with that right LP wrong insert. boy do i know that one, and your right. ask all the questions you can. drive them nuts if you have to but don't get stuck like that. Samhain wise, even though i did not bitch cause i got a great deal on the record. i got an orange vinyl November Coming Fire with a copied lyrics sheet and no photos. though the DOA takes the cake, who the hell is going to take a Disco Sucks 7" off my hands that has a Prisoner sleeve. But this could have been avoided if i was told that the 7" did not have a sleeve. the funny thing was they were auctioning off the Prisoner sleeve, so if any one bid on that got screwed completely. So its up to all of you new and even seasoned collectors, getting your records is only dependent upon the amount of effort you put forth. Plus i would suggest you read Gramps last post. He does know what the hell he's talking about. Next time you might get some record store info, if this guy comes up with the records. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 296 Friday, February 14th 1997 Today's Topics: ChristoTer, don't sulk support on european tour various shit xyz candy Violent World, Bootlegs, and Chuck ad maybe more stuff times square, violent world trib, stuff for sale/trade Canada? VIDEOS again Re: Misfits Bible #295--dream bands VIOLENT WORLD GRADES AND SHIT!!! Re: GG vs. M. Manson Re: NOFX doing covers Violent World...OF COURSE IT SUCKS!!! Glenn's Exhibitionism, inter alia updated auction list(pt.2) society sucks violent world.....good or bad? ever so cool updated auction list(pt.1) yet another stupid sigting VIOLENT WORLD GG Allin and having fun Chuck DANZIG PHOTOS, AUTOGRAPHS, AND BOOTLEGS who's flaming who? MDC fiend club Mephisto78 is no more CD OFFER Where are they now... Bootlegs hey steve The ignorant should be shot Stuff re: suck my violent dick geeks There is something so wrong about them... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johnny hotcock Subject: ChristoTer, don't sulk First off, a reprint of Chris' original message: >"First off, whatever Fiend I met at the Pantera show, it was nice meeting >you! I forgot your name though. And to the other guy in the Misfits >shirt who sucker punched me, don't worry I got a REAL good look at you, >and I never forget a face." I admit fully that I am not the dude who dusted your mug for you, I merely found it humorous to assume the role and pass out some verbal masturbation. I don't think crawling under some rock is the appropriate reaction. I was touched by the posts that came to the MB in support of you. It is for this reason that I am posting this explaination. Good luck to you, ChristoTer. P.S. In no way do I endorse Fay Beckman's shameful post. Fay jumped on a bandwagon that never even existed. ------------------------------ From: tom Subject: various shit what's up fiends? I've sort of been watching/reading/seldom writing to this bible and the homepage since like issue 50 or something and I'm kind of sorry that it's going to be done for in the summer... sort of like the end of an era or something. I'd just like to thank everyone here who got me even deeper into the misfits/danzig/samhain thing than any sane person would ever want to be. I'd also like to thank Mark for setting all of this stuff up and especially for making me those tapes (if you don't remember Mark, it was a long time ago - i'm Tom from Canada if that helps). So does anyone have any idea if Danzig is touring up to Vancouver canada? What about the Misfits? I missed them here last time (hey i was underage and did everything i could think of to get in but nothing worked) but it will never happen again. Also, if anyone has any cool Deftones/Black Flag/Misfits/Reagan Youth/Minor Threat (or any cool punk/harcore band) logos scanned, could you e-mail them to me, I'm gonna try and make some iron-on transfers with a bubble jet printer. Cheap t-shirts for the artistically impaired heheh. thanks everybody.. Tom from Canada ------------------------------ From: Xdisco infernoX Subject: xyz My dream bands: Josh Shift-Vocals Ian MacKaye-guitar Vic 108-Guitar Mike Watt (Minutemen)-bass Sammy (Judge, Youth of Today, CIV)- drums Mikey Prema-Vocals Walter (Quicksand)-guitar Scott (Snapcase)-guitar Joe Lally (Fugazi)-bass Samantha (Shift)-drums oh and AVAIL!!!! Disco Inferno xxx ------------------------------ From: Scott Perry For anyone who is interested there was a Danzig story in the Greensburg Tribune-Review (PA) last Friday. It was in the entertainment section. i'm trying to find it on the web so that I can post the URL but so far: no luck. Failing that I will try to get a copy of the actual article and type it up and send it in. This could take weeks though. And to any of you who don't like Bobby Steele, I have spoken with him via email and he was really friendly. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with him trying to get some money out of the Misfits, everybody else is. Scott ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Subject: candy <>misfits shirts... yes and i've also seen a picture of them covered in blood like samhain. a friend of mine has a band that opened up for them in richmond. D.EVIL ------------------------------ From: Inzo Subject: Violent World, Bootlegs, and Chuck ad maybe more stuff I woke up from a weird weird dream where the singer to Maryln Manson (Maryln Manson) was trying to kill me and he took my SG and my old red one appeared.... I got the Violent World cd today. My review is short. I liked them all except the cover of SHE, London Dungeon, and I half dislike Ghouls Night Out and Earth AD SHE- you can't hear the vocals and he is screaming them London Dungeon- no comment Ghouls Night Out- those drums bug me, the sound like Googy's drums on mommy on WAU, no hihat on the snare drum. Earth AD, I was getting excited by the intro but then it went into sloth-core. I understand and apprectiate that the songs are original interpretations that is why I have the DK tribute, no direct clones on there, that is also why I like these two the best... Return OF The Fly, it is cool. I like it :) 20 Eyes- immediatly my favorite song on the album. It just made me happy, at 1:56 it goes in the final chorus and it was at that part that I felt fuzzy and warm inside, (I'm putting it on now) Listen to the part of the song I mentioned. but listen to the whole song. Bootlegs: My opinion is that if a bootleg has something on it that you want...Get it! I have about 7 Samhain boot 7 inches and theres some stuff on them I am glad to have. Like the Last Gasp 7" has them doing Bloodfeast, and it has a demo of Novembers fire and Lords of the left hand. Another Example, I know there are bootlegs with Return Of The Fly on it, Before Collection II came out, wouldn't it be a good idea to have a boot with ROTF on it so you have the song? yes. That is how I think of bootlegs. IF Chuck does Heroine then what the bloody hell is he doing with Social D? They all quit Heroine. Because of Chuck, they will all start again and die :( Where is that guy that had all those Samhain buttons? I want some!!!! I saw a new Intium and NCF at the store, if anyone needs them,,,they're expensive though, I bet 15.00 bucks, cuz it's Disc Jockey. Oh, back to bootlegs!!! HA, I ordered the Samhain bootleg Black Dream, I wanted it because it has demo tracks, live tracks, and The Original Unholy Passion mix. SEE, now, for someone who doesn't have the original UP, this would be a good thing to get. I still don't believe I paid 80 bucks for a red Unholy Passion EP. The guitar just sounds a little different cuz it's Damian not Glenn. If you want to hear the original UP and can't find or afford the ep, find the boot, and you will hear Damian's guitar, and get more Samhain stuff in one package. That's how it works for me, If it has something I want I get it, I don't collect bootlegs. besides the Samhain stuff, I have 2 other bootlegs. Who Killed Marylyn, cuz you can't get these two songs anywhere and I think the boot sounds like the original anyway, is it supposed to be kinda high pitched???? Like, there's some effect on Glenns voice???? bootleg pro's??...how's the sound on the original compare w/the boot? I also have the sup pop boot of When Death Had No Name cuz that was long before I ordered a Dirty Balck Summer cd single w/it on it from CD now. I know Star Wars came out before Bullet. And I am sending out Dengar and 4-Lom to get midevil on your buttocks, feel lucky Boba Fett is too busy :) Anyone that can get me a schematic of a Marshall JCM 900, I will love you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:51:48 (EST) From: asenath Subject: times square, violent world trib, stuff for sale/trade bobby? $4.00 for s&h have you been hanging out with the people from BMG and columbia house? id rather you charged $2 more and cut shipping by $2 $4 is a ridiculous price to charge for shipping i've seen all these mixed reviews for the violent world tribute, would anyone be willing to sell/trade/give me a copy ov it so i can check it out first? well i have one remaining crimson ghost mousepad left for sale... $8 and its yours... if a lot more people are interested i found another supply ov black mousepads and will do either more CG's or danzig skulls depending upon the demand... also i found about 10 copies i made ov the chiller theatre #3 10 page interview with jerry only with over a dozen pictures... if your interested i will mail them out to you for $1 or trade for something you have lying about that is somewhat cool, some stickers, dead animals, cool pictures etc... well if any ov the above interests you... email me... everyone who has paid for mousepads they were all sent out today friday so you will get them in 3-5 days... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : jess cyphers asenath@sunlink.net : : http://www.sunlink.net/~asenath/welcome.html : :`````````````````````````````````````:''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''': : i stopped having nightmares... : : ...when i became a monster. : : : :`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:`:':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':': ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:25:27 +0800 From: Strych9 Subject: Canada? I am currently residing in Malaysia,(Misfits are totally unheard of over here) so you can imagine the raised eyebrows I get when I play Bloodfeast at high volume at work. You can sorta imagine the shock value to muslims as Im cruising down the street in my Samhain INITIUM shirt, with glenn and the boys covered in blood... Anyway, as I am living here I suddenly find myself being constantly bashed in one way shape or form. I have met quite a few canadians over here, and it seems like all they enjoy doing is raggin on America. To listen to them you would think that they dont have any problems back home. I have never considered myself to be a gung ho american, until confronted with such people. You can imagine my shock to see that this same thing continues here on The Bible, one such post is the one below... Stephen Warren said >the news is like: "ok, that's what happened today in the states, now >time for your local news..." So should we americans get mad that Canada hardly ever makes the news in the states? Probablly not, besides the only interesting thing that I can remember about canadians, is that special forces team that was sent down as part of the UN peace keeping team, and got busted for torturing and killing a lot of civilians... >all us canadians do is drown in americana! i can tell you who the >presidents are but i have no idea about the prime ministers. we're the >tv generation, pal. So get pissed at your own country for showing you OUR news and not your OWN! Why is it America's fault that your boring ass country aint got shit to talk about? >i think all you americans should know that when i run out of toilet >paper, i wipe my ass with an american flag. ah, god bless america. Is that supposed to hurt? Y'know heres the funny thing. And this always gets Canadians really pissed cuz they know its true, but.... If Canada had ANYTHING worth taking, America would have taken it by now... Nuff said... One last thing... I suppose I should thank canada for one thing. They did supply us with most of our alcohol when America was in Prohabition... Later - Strych9 ------------------------------ From: XabcessX@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:21:45 (EST) Subject: VIDEOS again hello. I got kicked off AOL but I'm back again. I got amny e-mails about video trading but I don't know whatever happened.....If you wrote to me be4 (and if you didn't) wrote to me about trading videos. I have vids by:Misfits (95), GG ALLIN, sublime, marilyn manson, Bikini Kill, Strife, CIV, TOOL and lots more. Heres some stuff I'm looking for: 1.BABY GOPAL 2.marilyn manson 3.earth crisis 4.Path Of Resistance show from new years. ------------------------------ From: "CJ Carey" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #295--dream bands Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:35:01 The Righteous Black Duck's dream band #1: Vocals -- T-Boz, Left Eye(*) & Chilli (TLC) (* also keyboards) Lead Guitar -- Greg Ginn (Black Flag) Rhythm Guitar -- Scott Ian (Anthrax) Bass -- Mike Watt (minutemen/fIREHOSE) Drums -- George Hurley I may think of a new more crazy lineups before I'm through...:) The Righteous Black Duck irieduck@ptd.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:31:55 -0330 (NST) From: Shaun Young Subject: VIOLENT WORLD GRADES AND SHIT!!! i finally got it and it is not what i expected!!!!!!!!! i want my money back. violent world sucks snapcase - she : i had a hard time getting over the middle. i thought that the intro sucked to! only if they could have kept to the original a little more. - A pennywise - astro zombies : these guy suck!! i can't believe that drummer, he fucks up at least 7 times and the singing goes dull at the end- B shades apart - 20 eyes : the fucking intro was perfect! they rule. i love howthey slowed the song right down to pearl jam standards-C tanner - tv casualty : this was awesome...finally someone who sings the words right. i like the alcopela in the middle.C- therapy - eagles : these guys deffinetly knew what they were doing...i love the changes to the chorus. D prong - ld : BORING...i almost fell asleep. tommy victor sounds like he's playing on his nubbutt!!! i wish people would stop playing that fucking screem in the middle C 108 - death comes ripping : one of the worst on the album! they slow it down to almost a atop. too bad they had to add keyboards-F bouncing souls - mommy : perfect voice on this one...best job!! i like how the sounds of gunshots and farm animals drown out the intro.-A goldfinger - ghouls : these guys ROCK this song...she changes the lyrics around so that she is singing to glen about how she is his"devil woman".-A deadguy - horror biz : this song is done really cool...the torture in the middle is really unique. i love how the end is filled with piano. the guys voice is distorted and sounds like it is run through a wah peddle or sum shit.A++ soia - all hell : hard and fast. great bass, drums were furious. sounded good worth an A- NOFX - last caress--they played the choruses with harmonica. they used a violin for the chorus. they sang together. they sped the song up so fast it was only 1:12 long. it was a mockary. the impressions of popeye and bobby steele didn't help either. earth crisis - ead : i wish i could have seen this live! i can't believe how they got monkeys to sing the chorus!!!! A farside - rotf : i thought i'd never see the day when a misfitz song would havea full wind and brass section. A+ shaun ****************************************************************************** All the power's in the hands Of the people rich enough to buy it While we walk the street Too chicken to even try it. -The Clash (Strummer/Jones) ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "\"The Righteous Black Duck\" CJ Marsicano" Subject: Re: GG vs. M. Manson Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:59:18 I'm glad to see somebody is taking the GG side of the GG vs. MM debate. GG Allin stood behind his stage act and went to jail for it for more than overnight (anyone want to try three years?), even though offstage he was reportedly very cordial to most of whoever he met along the way. He never let anything stand in the way of wanting to make music (a very admirable act no matter how you slice it). And at least most of GG's albums (at least most of the ones in my collection) have some very good songs on them...unlike MM who's signing to Interscope is destined to be one of Trent Reznor's few mistakes in life. And that's the bottom line because The Righteous Black Duck said so! Marsicano 3:16 says somebody's gonna get their ass kicked (138 times! :)). "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net ------------------------------ From: "\"The Righteous Black Duck\" CJ Marsicano" Subject: Re: NOFX doing covers Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:06:17 Admittedly, the reggae bits in NOFX's version of Last Caress were cute, but then again, I like reggae just as much as I like the Misfits. Their screwing up the lyrics is par for the course. That's nothing compared to their dyslexic interpetation of the verse chord sequence (They played it B-A-G-B instead of B-G-A-B) to "Forming" on the Germs tribute album. I'll reserve judgement on the rest of the album until I listen to it again, however I thought Prong's contribution sucked prong. ------------------------------ Date: 2/12/1997 1:36 From: Patrick Sayers Subject: Violent World...OF COURSE IT SUCKS!!! Hello Fiends, There is a lot of talk of this Violent World "tribute album"being quite dissapointing,are you surprised?First of all,these fucking tribute CDs have become(or maybe even started out)as a way to rip people off.This became clear to me when that horrible hardcore "tribute"to the Smiths came out last year.A lot of the bands on that release have addmitted to not actually really liking the Smiths;they just wanted to be on a compilation.Anyway,tbis is the Misfits bible,so let me relate my point to Violent World.While I do think that Snapcase is fucking cool.The decision to put bands like Pennywise,NOFX,and(Mall punk legends)Goldfinger seem to be morebout selling the CD to the masses than to pay homage to the Misfits.Anyway,instead of slagging the bands on this cd(with the exception of Goldfinger,whom I'm guessing couldn't wait for the Green Day tribute,and needed a credibility cover fast) I just want you all to consider boycotting quick cash CDs such as these.I had the intention of putting out a compilation CD of bands covering Motley Crue songs.All of the bands on it were chosen ,not with financial promise or"punk credibilty"in mind,but with the intention of putting out a CD that would be fun for people to listen to.I'm kinda having second thoughts about putting it out now,because releases like these (in general)are more about marketing than about recognition.Anyway,please consider boycotting this CD.There are enough peoplr on this bible who already own it and are dissapointed.I'm sure one of them will be kind enough to tape it for you.By not purchasing this CD you are telling Caroline Records that you will not stand for a shitty CD.Anyway,I have much more to say about this issue,but feel bad taking up so much space.If anyone would likr to discuss/debate this issue,e-mail me directly.Oh,to the guy who was looking for the Rollins autograph,I don't have one.However,I do have a Dee Snider of Twisted Sister autograph that says"Pat,I still want to ROCK"I'm sure you don't care,but whatever. I'm GLAMASFUK, Patrick Sayers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:48:19 (PST) From: Geoff Wilson Subject: Glenn's Exhibitionism, inter alia For what it's worth: When I saw Danzig at the Capitol Theater in Flint, Michigan, in October, 1990, he came out on stage with his fly open, and his evil weiner hanging out for everyone to see. He must've zipped up pretty fast though, because (fortunately) it wasn't hanging out during the rest of the show. What a clown! My "ultimate band" line-up: Vocals: Jim Morrison Guitar 1: Randy Rhoads Guitar 2: Jimi Hendrix Bass: Cliff Burton Drums: Jon Bonham ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:51:32 (PST) From: bill avery Subject: updated auction list(pt.2) 7" Misfits: NOTLD $55 cough/cool $375 Who Killed $57 3Hits white wax/grey cover signed by Jerry $75 7" Black Flag: Louie,Louie 1st press $15 Six Pack 1st press $5 T.V Party 1st press $5 Nervous Breakdown 1st press $7 Misc items: Danzig 1 promo disk signed by Glenn $35 Rollins Band E.O.S signed by Henry $27 Promo poster In My Head $10 Fiend Club Poster skull holding eye $15 Danzig 3 box set $40 --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:27:09 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: society sucks hey fiends, get this guys. i was at school the other day, with my face painted up, my spikes on, and my yellow spandix jump-suit, when this big fat jock crept up behind me and gave me an atomic-wedgie. what an asshole, eh? at least i dress the way i want. if i had friends, i'm sure they would agree with me. but you guys do, right? that's all i have. the love and understanding of you guys and, of course, the guidence of my lord satan. thanks for being there. i love you all. -steve- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:45:56 From: hardcore mofo Subject: violent world.....good or bad? Heres is my take on the violent world thing..... Snapcase:She...I think this is by far the best song on here. It kicked my ass and made me like it. A new twist on a classic song. Did i mention a like tis version of she? Pennywise:Astro Zombies.....these boys get on my nerves and so does this song. Shades Apart:20 eyes.....EMO-FITS? HUSKER FITS? I like it Tanner:tv casulty.....just nothing new done here..very boring..i dont lke it there is a song after the tanner song that im going to pretend is not on there...nuff said Prong:london dungeon...i dont like shit like this,but it is diffrent. im sure someone might like this...i dont 108:death comes ripping....nothing really diffrent done to the song here,but it sounds damn good...i like it Bouncing souls:Mommy....this is not a good song for them to cover....he doesnt have the voice for this song...mayber they could havedone something else better...i dont know....i dont like this too much Goldfinger:ghouls night out....good take on this song...i like it Deadguy:horror business....i dont like this band..but this was a good idea...funny...i can live with it SIOA:death comes ripping....they dont sound like they were too into this song...probably something elektra made them do..its ok NOFX:last caress....if glenn were to have put a clothespin on his nose and somked some crack and forgot how this song went..this might have been how it would have sounded...this is pure shit Earth Crisis earth ad.....some more victory boys churning out a crushing,devestating,intense,mind rattling, etc.etc.etc. song....this is a definte keeper...i like it lot Farside return of the fly...good execution here....i like this version a lot...straight out of vegas bottom line.....the hardcore contingent carried this record DISCO INFERNO FEARS SABU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:03:18 From: Aaron Stillbirth Subject: ever so cool >I have been in a leather since i was 14 and i dawned my first >spikes, Anyone who knows me doesn't think twice about me but today while >walking the halls with my fce painted and some prick dared upon insult. >People in this world need to just lighten up! Does anyone agree? >Mykale Burket >wisconsin you are soooo cool. im went out yesterday and bought a beat up leather jacket and 500000 spikes to put all over it just because of you. im so glad you told me that. Gramps, >and they're on the Victory label which puts out the 90's Skrewdriver One Life >Crew's record. i saw one life crew with murphys law...and they are the worse band EVER. them and their fuckin 216 sXe crew from the west side of cleveland can all have a cigarette with me and suck my dick. shaun, >bobby i don't care!!!!!! you are just cashin' in, like every fuckin' >COck-ROcker, heh??? yeah, i guess when your guitar work is on a few cd's, you dont deserve any royalties. bobby played for the misfits. and when you play for a band, you expect to get paid. and when the person who is supposed to pay you dicks you over for a couple of thousand bucks, and avoids you and defames your name, it is no big deal? wake up. >tell me...when you are makin all of that money like you want to, off of >someone else's material, will you think about the actual contribution you >made??? uhhh, even mr. glenn said the bobby/joey/jerry era was his favorite time in the band. in case you couldnt have realized it, glenn aint that easy to please. bobby obviously did something right. >shaun. (i won't buy you fuckin' album...not until you change your name >and write some "originals", SHAUN!) hey shaun, the undead is a cover band now? so is times square, and so were the scabs? thats news to me. have you even heard of the undead? they do cover songs, like every other band in the world. the undead has been around for 15 years, and they havent stopped. at least bobby has the ability to write good, catchy, origanl songs. unlike a certain member of the new misfits who decided to change the name of kryst the conqueror to the msifits to make some $$$. d rod >But I think the reason he wont release it untouched is so he just wont have to >deal with bobby and pay him, instead he can keep the $$$ in the family by >having doyle on it. of course...why do you think jerry kicked bobby out for no good reason...so he could get a majority of the band. jerry and doyle vs. glenn. it was obvious jerry got what he wanted...control of the band. tammy, >Aaron, if you thought the fly being down was bad, the show here in south >florida for 1995, he had big holes in his pants. glenns jeans were brand new. they looked like they were never worn before. it was so funny to see mr. evil forget to zip his pants. kind of ironic i thought. >Plus he is no 5'8". he is a couple of inches taller than me and i'm exactly >5'. only cause each time i have met him i never had to look up at him like >with Eerie or Jerry. we must have been standing on a slope or something...me being on the downward slant. cause in the picture i got, he is just about as tall as me. i will take your word for it. i only talked to him for about 5 minutes. plus he was sitting down. thats all, aaron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:43:40 (PST) From: bill avery Subject: updated auction list(pt.1) Send bids to sardonica@hotmail.com updated as of 2/13/97 -bill 12" Misfits: Earth AD plan9 (not caroline) $20 Earth AD (possible) test pressing $30 Earth AD purple wax $ 28 (late addition)Legacy white wax signed by Glenn $75 Flipside signed by Glenn $30 WAU 1st press signed by Glenn, Jerry, Doyle $55 2nd press signed by Jerry and Doyle $30 Evilive green wax signed by Glen and Jerry $35 Eyes to despise(boot) $20 Live NOTLD(boot) $20 12" Samhain: Season of the Dead w/tour poster/crimson wax $25 Unholy Passion white wax $100 Unholy PasSion (maroon) Black wax $30 12" Black Flag Loose Nut signed by Anthony Martinez $25 --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 17:07:20 From: MIke Lunsford Subject: yet another stupid sigting Hello there, Yes, it's another one of those dumb Misfits sigtings that take up space. Well, here you are... I live in the suckiest state in america, kentucky. Most of the people are hicks. Well, anyway... There is a little club in downtown lexington called the Mellinium. I was listening to the radio one night and a commercial for this place came on. It said, "To come to the Mellinium, you got to have attitude!" Then all of a sudden the commercial goes, "Attitude! You got some fukin' attitude!" How cool is that?! Well, there you have it! Later, Mike ------------------------------ From: WOLFER138@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:53:06 (EST) Subject: VIOLENT WORLD This thing could be much better! Artwork sucked it is not very effort showing. Would have liked Type-o and Metallica on it too. Could be Better. Snapcase "She"- This fuckin sucks my sisters cows dick!!!!!! Grade:F Pennywise "Astro Zombies"-Hate this band, Great version of the song one of best Grade:A Shades Apart "20 Eyes"- Cool Version very close to the original! Grade: B Tanner "TV Casualty"-Never liked this song even by the misfits as far as a good cover this is good! Grade:B- Therapy? "Where Eagles Dare"-Very different ok not great. Hate the verse the way it is done could be much better. Grade:C+ Prong "London Dungeon"- FUCKIN GARBAGE These guys deserve to be hung in front of every fiend around the world after 48 hours of public humiliation! Sounds like it could be a remake on blackacidevil! Grade:F 108 "Death Comes Ripping"- One of my favs! Very close! Grade:A Bouncing Souls "Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight"- Hate this guys voice but a good cover. Grade:B- Goldfinger "Ghouls Night Out"-Hate goldfinger!!! Love the song! Grade: A- Deadguy "Horror Business"- Good Grade: B Sick Of It All "All Hell Breaks Loose"- Awesome!! These guys should do a whole CD dedicated to the misfits. Grade: A NOFX "Last Caress" - Very NOFX like. Funny as hell ok song not great not good but ok. Grade:C Earth Crisis "Earth A.D."- Heavy as hell kicks ass! Grade: A- Farside "Return Of The Fly"- PUT ME TO SLEEP!!!!!!!! Grade: C- Sean ------------------------------ From: "JOSEPH M. NINOSKY" Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:45:31 PST Subject: GG Allin and having fun I first heard about GG around the time he died and a couple of mags did a bio on him (Rolling Stone, SPIN). I got the video HATED, and proceeded to laugh my ass off. My friends and I used to get shit wasted on St. Ides Malt Liquor (liquid crack/wino piss/chemicals) and watch that video whenever new bros were in town visiting us. The narration and the commentary of "Unk" sets a mood that really brings out the hilarity of GG's antics. Sure, he's a worthless piece of shit and pretty obtuse, but with such songs as Expose Yourself to Kids and I Wanna Fuck Myself, jesus, you can't deny the hilarity. Piss, shit, and dip: the elements of humor. P.S. I like the Misfits. ------------------------------ Date: 13 FEB 97 08:31:28 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Chuck First of all, lets not get the "cananda is better than the US" and vice versa thing going, its only going to get ugly and piss alot of people off. Secondly, this post is long, so if you get bored easy, page down. then The Man That You Fear said -> "Hey gfk, in your last submission you said that Chuck is punk. FYI: He isn't. Unless you consider Danzig punk (they're not)." For your info, Chuck is THE greatest punk drummer of all time. Here is his resume of bands he played in: DOA Circle Jerks Black Flag Fear Subhumans Weirdos Social Distortion and of course Danzig Now I know Danzig is not punk, but I think that you look at the list of the OTHER bands he was in, you could pretty much say the except maybe the Dead Kennedys, the Ramones and the Heartbreakers, he's been in every definitive North American punk/hardcore band of the 1980s. I know alot of you kids of the 90s never heard of these bands (i hope I only being sarcastic) but for those of you who remember the hardcore scene from back then, these guys were the shit. Dan Sylvester said " Actually, minimum wage is around seven bucks an hour >in Canada, 3 bucks sounds more like the states." Yea, $7 Canadian, which is probably close to our $5.25 (or whatever) so all you gas pumpers don't start headin north yet for the big raise ... :) The Noss said "P.S. - For those of you who don't like Tommy >Victor and don't play guitar, those harmonics >he's playing without a wammy bar aren't the >easiest thing to do. I think his playing is quite >good, even though I do miss John. I agree 100% with you!. Now I see why Tommy said "whammy bars are for pusssies", even though I don't agree with Victor on that. As a guitar player, he really impressed me with his playing, though I do prefer John's sound. The only thing that I hope he realizes is that neck repairs cost a hell of alot more than getting a new spring for your whammy. There is no way I'd do that to my Gretsch or Les Paul. Someone else said "The Electric Hellfire Club was mysteriously stopped at the border,". Yea, they should have been bound, gagged, and thrown over Niagra falls without the benefit of a barrell. azzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ------------------------------ From: DOYLE341@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:05:20 (EST) Subject: DANZIG PHOTOS, AUTOGRAPHS, AND BOOTLEGS I have a couple of topics today: 1) Where the hell do they sell Violent World? I haven't been able to find it anywhere here in Austin. 2) I still have plenty of Danzig Photos left for sale! They're good, affordable, and available. 3) I am also willing to part with my autographed Danzig 4p promotional flat. It is signed by Glenn, John, Erie, and Joey. Make me an offer I can't refuse. 4) Here is a list of bootlegs I have as well.(if anyone is interested) a)Misfits-"Brain Eaters", live tracks mostly from Walk Among Us b)Misfits-"All Hell Breaks Loose", live tracks with songs from all albums except for Earth A.D. c)Misfits-"Al's Bar 82", common live show. I'm sure you all have it. d)Danzig-"Am I Demon", live songs from Danzig 1 plus 3 Misfits songs! e)Danzig-"The Dark Days of Danzig", live show from Germany in 1990. Songs are from Danzig 1 and 2, plus "When Death Had No Name" Anyone interested in this stuff email me: Doyle341@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Blagripper@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:44:42 (EST) Subject: who's flaming who? ok mark, first things first, you go and ban some of my post due to some rules you have about flaming others,saying that some of my comments are a little off color, but yet you continue to let others post their flames, including bobby, i know he was a misfit, but rules are rules, right mark? second, bobby, you are getting lawyers now? i believe you told me that jerry is a sellout because he spent almost a decade with lawyers to get his money, well what are you doing? you always put your foot in your mouth, and that is why you never get respect, and the picture of you and joey in WAU was already claimed by glenn as a mistake, that they put the wrong photo in there, and glenn and jerry have told me that bobby, you are not on any tracks that the misfits have released except for london dungeon, so if jerry is a sellout in your eyes for getting lawyers, then i guess that makes you a sellout as well. Ever wonder why you will NEVER be considered a true misfit? so mark you can ban this like you probably will because you like to protect bobby, or you can be fair and post this like all the other negative flame posts you put on last issue. so bobby's gonna get lawyers, i bet you have glenn and jerry scared......have a nice day:)Blag (by the way violent world lp=toilet paper)....i cant wait to hear what bobby will say. ------------------------------ Date: 13 FEB 97 14:30:07 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: MDC Danger, non-misfits post ahead ... Do any of you guys from Texas (Ken Ward, you still there ...?) know if MDC still exists and if they ever plan on hittin the east coast? email me private so we don't clog up the bible with this stuff. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:39:45 +0000 From: sean barron Subject: fiend club in married punks #9 there is a jerry only interview and he mentions a t.v. show the misfits made called the fiend club that they were trying to syndicate also a few issues ago someone mentioned the 'fits should put crimson ghost armbands in the new album if they did that of what purpose would the ones doyle tosses into the crowd be (i know cuz i have 1 ha ha ha)seee ya ------------------------------ From: Fiend867@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:05:29 (EST) Subject: Mephisto78 is no more Mephisto78 wanted me to inform people that his mother has now canceled aol on him b/c she is crazy I can get a hold of him if anyone wants the tape of danzig on loveline or anything else .From me, whoever was selling that drumstick from Dr. Chud, i emailed you at two different addresses but i never recieved a reply thanks and good night wes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:07:23 From: Villnave Subject: CD OFFER Ok..here is my CD offer once again IF you want your Misfits (or whoever) tapes/records on CD I will make it for you. Tapes get worn out and eaten and records scratch. Also I can do cd to cd and believe it or not wav files.. Anything on to CD... $16 for the cd add $1 if u want the mail insured For a reference you can ask Mark Kennedy.. For more info or to do an order.. email misfit@dreamscape.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:00:18 (PST) From: Daniel Herrmann Subject: Where are they now... WHAT ever happened to Franche Coma, Mr. Jim, Steve Zing, Damien, Manny, Joey Image, Arthur Googy, Robo, and London May? Oh yeah, in response to those people that think the MiSFiTs should re-record their old shit: They can't. Glenn owns all the music publishing rights, and the Misfits are restricted from recording any of the music now owned by Glenn - effectively being locked out of their past. Sorry if I smashed anyone's hopes and desires. P.S. I have no internet access, only this shitty email program, so don't shit on me for asking. -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:00:50 From: Justin Deming Subject: Bootlegs I think people are totally missing the point of bootlegs! The point of them is to get your hands on live and unreleased stuff. Guys that make fake versions of available albums (or out-of-press versions of music still available elsewhere) are sure as hell making shit worth $0, but bootlegs of live shows w/ good sound (DAT) or unreleased versions/ songs/ demos are not a rip-off at all! Before all of you get on my back and say, "You're ripping the band off!" think about the band's position. Their record label couldn't possibly release every live shows, even in very limited pressings. It's not good business. So, I say, heck, let the the bootlegers do it! It gives the fans something to listen to! The only problem-o is the price for bootleg CDs. $20-25, usually. Well, it's my $0.02, bud. For the record, I only own two bootleg CDs at all (by Pantera and NIN). AZ, do you have that DAT newsgroup's address? I don't have a DAT yet, but I have looked at a few. I'd appreciate some advice, so I don't make ALL of the usual rookie mistaks. Well, I better make one Misfits tie-in. CYBERNAUT! Where the hell are you, man? I'm trying to be patient, but do you know how long ago you first recieved my $23??? I'm still waiting... and waiting... and waiting... Dale Roller, is that your real name? Put the CD in a mailbox, today! Later, fiends! - Justin -- Dork: The Home Page http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/ -- The Internet Pro Wrestling Association http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/ipwa/ -- ...and don't forget my clients, for all of your questions about your future! Areturus - St. Rose http://home.stlnet.com/~pdeming/areturus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:17:44 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: hey steve steve sez: > all us canadians do is drown in americana! i can tell you who the >presidents are but i have no idea about the prime ministers Hey man - if you don't know your country's history it's no one's fault but your own. Go to a fuckin library and look it up. > wer're the tv generation pal Your TV has a button on it that turns it off. Use it - and then go read a book or do something constructive with your time. Don't blame other people for your own shortcomings > when i run out of toilet paper, i wipe my ass with the american flag It must be really hard to wipe your ass when your head is stuck in it ================================================================================ Stephen Gorny [] In Baltimore, "civil rights leaders" raised a huge Department of Psychology [] uproar over the issue of Confederate flags on UMBC [] state license plates - saying it is a symbol of 1000 Hilltop Circle [] hatred and racism. Yet these people have said Baltimore, MD 21250 [] almost nothing about the racially motivated [] assaults and murders of Korean citzens by members sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu [] of the African-American community. Apparently, [] they believe that civil rights violations occur [] only when certain types of people are the victims. ================================================================================ ------------------------------ Subject: The ignorant should be shot From: J-SIN of ANGELSIN Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:08:18 EST First off, some little kid who's UGLYASFUK, oh sorry, PUNKASFUK, decided to talk shit about me and my band ANGELSIN, I don't know why. Maybe it's because I prooved him wrong and made a very good point about a certain shirt he made insulting Glenn and calling him a sellout. I find it so fucking funny that some little shit could put down a band he's never seen nor heard before in his WEAK little life. You've never experienced ANGELSIN before and if it was up to me you never will, but I'm sure you'll find a way to get your "Punkasfuk" sticky little fingers on some of our music. Some of you may be wondering why it took me this long to respond to this geek, I haven't been getting to my Email lately but a sweetheart named Leah let me know that this little NOTHING was talking shit. So I hopped on it. I would also like to publicly thank Tom Undermine and "The Man That You Fear" for sticking up for me and ANGELSIN music. I'd also like to thank all the people who EMailed ANGELSIN to order our musiczine and become part of the mailing list....Theres no turning back now!!!!! We know where you live!!!!!! And to the DUMASFUK, oh sorry, PUNKASFUK kid....You had no problem insulting my band...tell ya what, why dont you let me hear your band and the music that you write, and please, don't give me any Green Day sounding shit, thats if you even have a band, or do you spend half of your pathedic life on the computer, and the other half making shirts of people you hate, could you do me a favor? since you like making shirts of people you hate, why don't you print up a couple of ANGELSIN shirts. ---------------Mark, Happy (belated) Birthday SINcerley, J-SIN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:08:08 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Stuff All kinds o replies in one big post: Dead Milkmen: Yes - I saw them do Astro Zombies both times that I saw them. Both times their bassist would not give me a guitar pick after the show when I asked him nicely for one for my pick collection - no that's not relavant but...who cares. The VW reviews. Those were hilarious guys. I write for a few mags and you wrote things I wish I could say. I'd love to be able to review the latest Blind Melon album by simply saying "all of these guys should be rounded up and shot". BTW - haven't picked it up yet, but y'know, I can picture ol' Blue Eyes doing a vegas lounge version of Return of the Fly (and actually Last Caress too for some wierd reason - I always get that image). Buying the old classics on vinyl. Not to slag anyone, but I would advise you to be extremely wary of buying these really rare things for several hundred bucks, sight unseen, over the net unless you know a lot of people who can vouch for the guy. Someone on here claimed to have an original Cough/Cool for sale. I am definately interested, but I would like an authority, say Tammy maybe to authenticate this thing first - e-mail me and maybe we can work something out. Cool - just looked out my window and it's snowing (being that this is Baltimore, half an inch means everything in the city'll be shut down tomorrow - those wimps) Bootlegs - i agree with whoever said it. I'll track down these things and buy em if they have some nifty goodies on them that you just can't get otherwise. I mean - if Glenn was so upset about all of this bootleg Misfits stuff out there, he should have re-released it all on his own years ago. That would have nipped it in the bud. Speaking of which - what exactly are the terms surrounding the old Fits tunes. Some have said that Glenn has all of the rights to them, that the new band cannot record them again - live or otherwise. Others have said they can, but have to pay him royalties. On the other hand, someone else who recently interviewed Glenn tated that he said that Jerry and Co. are holding out (about the box set) and that they have a lot more they could put out, but are witholding. Um....if Glenn owns the rights to all of the old Fits tunes, wouldn't he be the one holding out? Does Caroline own any of it??? I have to wonder cuz, as far as I'm aware, other than the Max's X-mas (and maybe other live recordings made by the band) I don't remember seeing anything on the box set that wasn't around in bootleg form before. Are we really missing more than a few songs. I don't know (although I want to see that Studio Z vid w/ Howie Pyro - Bobby!!!!) Nazi stuff. Remember - in the late 70's a lot of punk bands wore swastikas, not cuz they were racists or neo-nazis - but just cuz it was the ultimate way to cheeze people off. Hell - even the New York Dolls used to wear swastika armbands from time to time (or at least Johnny Thunders (RIP) did). A few notes: For you 2 or 3 guys in Penn State: my fondest memory of the place is working for Domino's, delivering a pizza to Joe Paterno and getting a 50 cent tip. If you see him - smack him upside the head for me. D Generation kicks off a headline tour 2/28 & 3/1 at CBGB's. check www.Sony.com/Music/ArtistInfo/DGeneration for the dates. ================================================================================ Stephen Gorny [] In Baltimore, "civil rights leaders" raised a huge Department of Psychology [] uproar over the issue of Confederate flags on UMBC [] state license plates - saying it is a symbol of 1000 Hilltop Circle [] hatred and racism. Yet these people have said Baltimore, MD 21250 [] almost nothing about the racially motivated [] assaults and murders of Korean citzens by members sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu [] of the African-American community. Apparently, [] they believe that civil rights violations occur [] only when certain types of people are the victims. ================================================================================ ------------------------------ From: bellta@wku.edu Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:54:23 EST Subject: re: suck my violent dick it is sad that this shmuck would think that i expected the violent world cd to sound just like the misfits. i did not expect it to sound like the misfits, but i did expect it to be good. that is until i found out what bands were on it. the sad thing is that bouncing sould were the best band on there, and they are not all that great...and the best one was astro zombies, and i fucking hate pennywise. at least earth crisis picked one of the metal songs, as there would have been hell to pay, had they fucked with one of the punk songs... oh yeah, i am a stupid punk, bonehead. i love fucking idiots full of machismo. tab hwd ps-ultimate band vocals-joey ramone guitar-johnny ramone bass-dee dee ramone drums-marky ramone (even though tommy is cooler, marky is better) fuck you metal head ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:47:06 +0000 From: scooter Subject: geeks for all you who hate the violent world tribute --- let me explain the idea of a tribute album. its not supposed to sound exactly like the misfits.i'm just glad that a lot of cool bands out there today dig the misfits enough to pay "tribute" to them. i saw pennywise last summer at the warped fest--when he said "any misfits fiends out there" i went nuts. i also met face to face and bouncing souls recently and both bands commented on my devilock and had good things to say about the misfits. as for nofx changing that one line in last caress---i know you holier-than-thou fiends on here 1)would never admit this or 2)have only been fiends for the last year---but let me remind you of a time not so long ago when no lyrics were available--there were a lot of lyrics YOU couldnt make out--i used to sing "my fires burning bright,ugly faces in the night". you dont even wanna know how i used to sing mommy and green hell! i wouldnt doubt he sang that line "let me take one last caress" with some emotional value behind it. obviously these bands arent "mocking the misfits" theyre paying them the highest form of respect. i think the album kicks ass. as for glenn....i met him saturday at a comic shop right by my house. i went there with my devilock down and the new crimson ghost shirt on. he was really cool---i asked him about the prophecy and his comics. he signed all my misfits and samhain sleeves and was really cool with me. i even asked him if he would sign my arm under my crimson ghost tattoo and he said "yeah,i'll sign it". i was really surprised by how cool he was...i dont know why--everybody says he's cool----i was just expecting him to be like----"get that misfits shit out of here"--but he wasnt. when he was done i just said"alright,man,-later" and he said "alright,cool". anyways---glenns cool and the misfits fucking rule!!! oh one last question--i have the hittsville,passaic christmas eve 81 record(the one with the infamous bobby steele is a .... ) with a green sleeve, and its on red vinyl-----theres no record co info on the sleeve--is this a bootleg? check out my homepage--its nothing that great but you might like it--- later, scott www.ccia.com/~scooter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:13:07 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: There is something so wrong about them... Hello fiends... first off, i need to correct something. I just heard from EVB that the band i was talking about was not Trouble, though they too had started some shit with Danzig and spreading crap about them being satanists. The band that Danzig's Road Crew pulled that prank on was Warrior Soul. Plus, from what EVB says Glenn was not involved in this prank. Though as i had pointed out to her, Glenn was telling several people that night that he had done the deed. This was told to the same friend that got to see his drivers licence. Though i guess Glenn has never changed in getting carried away in his stories. zycki- i'm glad you like Misfits 101, funny you mention the Iron Cross 7". one of the band members or a brother of one of them was selling those about 5 - 6 years back. I think they were going for $25 - 30 at the time. i passed it up since i did not know if i could turn it around quick enough. Neil, one slight flaw to your theory about Danzig, we still don't know if he drinks coffee, though i know the entire population of the bible is just dying to know if he drinks coffee, and wears blue jeans. shit, what if he watchs Saved By the Bell. then you would have to have coutches in your church, plus lots of coffee makers and mugs with little pictures of satan wearing blue jeans. Does that mean that Satan drinks coffee too, i just don't know these things since its not part of my religion. Chris(here is what you were asking about) - as for the skateboards, the original Misfits and Samhain skateboards were designed in 1987. the ad was in an issue of Thrasher (mark has the original date on Misfits Central). Last year Jerry was able to get a couple of cases from Glenn's mother. sold them for $15 a piece, funny since they were $42 and $43 back when they first came out. right now only person i know who has them is John Grimm. i was lucky just to get one of the extra blank decks from the case. the new ones are not bad, Jerry showed me one at the show here in Miami Beach last summer, and i'm sure the rest of the bible members saw them at the mechandise table at the shows. other wise i have never seen one up for sale in my years of collecting Misfits and Samhain records and memorabilia. Ok, i looked through the last of my Maximum Rock and Rolls(at least the few that did not mysteriouly disappear) and found the Rider list for Danzig back in 93. This is what was part of the Danzig contract ***suposedly*** Danzig Room Requirements: 2 bags of Nacho Doritios, 1 gallon of Green Gatorade lite, 2 cases of Miller lite beer(forty-eight boot), 1 case of Miller Genuine beer(twenty-four boot), 1 case of Classic(i'm assuming Coca Cola)(twenty-four cans), 1 case of diet pepsi(twenty-four cans), 12 bottles Snapple Iced Tea with Mint, 12 cans Country Time Lemonade, 1 Liter of George Dickel Wiskey, 3 bottles Moet-Chandon White Star Champagne, 1 quart of Welch's Grape Juice, 1 can of Planter's salted peanuts, 1 can Cashews, 1 six pack of Guiness Stout, 4 cans Chunk light Tuna in spring water, 1 loaf of whole wheat bread, 1 jar of low calorie mayonnaise, 1 tray of candy - Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, Peanuts?, Ju Ju Bees, Gummie Bears, etc., 2 boxs of Twinning Earl Grey Tea, 1 box of Bigelows Plantation Mint Tea, 1 carton of Winston Cigarettes, 1 box of Band Aid bandages(1 3/4" X 3/4"), 1 spool of medical tape, 1 one pound bad of David & Son sunflower seeds, 1 gallon of low fat milk, 1pint of Half & Half for coffee, 1 trash can with liner, 1 bottle opener, 1 sharp knife with cutting board, 50 (16 oz) cold cups, 30 (12 oz) hot/cold styro cups, Sufficient clean ice for drinks and sufficient containers for beverages with ice, 1 roll of paper towels, 1 box of Kleenex tissues, Napkins, plates, and utensils. then it goes into the famous 10 girls between the ages of... 40 pounds of ice, 3 large pizza's one cheese two pepperoni, or, 20 assorted meat sandwiches - 4 roast beef, 4 ham, 4 sub sandwiches, 4 tuna, or, 2 buckets of Kentucky Fried Chicken(white meat only). the rest is just info for what the runners are required to do. Though do remember this is for the entire band. Misfits 101... Still going on about the bootlegs. I see some people still think Mark and myself are nuts. We are not saying that you should never buy a bootleg. What we are doing is warning you new fiends who are just starting to collect. Its a waste of your money and your time. I can say only three of all the ones i have are worth listening to. The Hitsville, 81 XMAS lp. Lodi NJ You Know - live interview with Glenn on Taang Radio and a cool version of Return of the Fly, and Invaders From Mars - all studio outtakes. The rest is crap. I know i have lots that were given to me when i ran my auctions, bribes to settle for a bid sooner than the auction ended. Or crap kicked in to a trade, like by the way you want this i don't. The Danzig live at the Ritz, i swear the guy must have dropped his recorder a million times. So if you want the music and i have a feeling that is what all of you are after, than make smart purchase. They are out there and you just have to look. So many fiends have now commented on the fact that i was right all along. That there are Misfits originals under $50. I'm not saying your going to go into your local record store and find a green vinyl Earth AD stairing you in the face but at least you might find a Die Die with an insert, or a first press black vinyl Earth AD. Plus all of you have access some how to the internet. I hate to shock you but, the Collection 2 on red vinyl i just picked up for $10 was on the internet, for the Undead fans i got a Verbal Abuse for $15. Plus i have seen Danzig poster, and Danzig promos, I told you all that Vinyl Ink had all the colors for collection 2, I'm waiting for the go ahead about the vinyl lps to tell you guys were to get them, i just have to hear back from this one place to know if they were part of a collection just bought. That is another thing that is great about local record stores, they buy entire collections. That way you can buy what you want and not have to deal with a ton of shit you would not know what to do with. Or have to shell out lots of money. That was the one thing that made everyone run to Yesterday and Today down here. Each time Richard bought a collection the phone calls went out. We would all be in the store early to check out what he got. I walked away with Flag of Democracy's first 7" Love Songs(yes it is an original, this was before the bootlegs were made in Germany) for $3. The SST records i got and used as part of the deal for my white vinyl Three Hits from Hell 7" came from there. a rare blood color vinyl Die Kreuzen Lp for $4. Its amazing the number of hours i spent sitting on the floor in that record store looking through boxes of records searching for either Misfits and Samhain records or anything i knew i could use to get those records. well next time, we talk bootlegs and the research that MRR did for there article on Bootlegs. Hope everyone has a great weekend. Later to all the fiendies!?! tes777(TAMMY) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu mailto:misfits@virginia.edu (Netscape Mail) For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to most questions, please visit Misfits Central before posting: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The Undead web site and catalog is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/undead/ For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Loveline tape with Danzig Re: Canada? more info. on Jersey Misfits show violent world Danzig's contract demands Record collectors are pretentious assholes... shirts Dream bands #2 Action Park &.. hardcore Violent World photos of Misfits "star trek" Halloween show 28th Offer Of A Lifetime... (no subject) Strych9...so typical. Hesitant Return Thanks Return of the Fly, Part 3 Re: Misfits Bible #296 DOA My home page #1 very bluenote Now to end this bootlegging bullshit ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:05:12 -0500 From: Tom Bejgrowicz Subject: Violent World For every action there is a reaction. I have been watching the Bible site and I would like to take up some space here with my response. Since many of you have had, and will in the future, your chance to either voice praise, falsehoods or criticism with concern to the projects I have produced for Caroline I will too use this forum to state my side of the story with regards to Violent World. To start, here are a few falsehoods followed by the truth: False - Bands were picked only to sell the record (i.e. Pennywise, Goldfinger...) True - I could have approached a lot of bands based on their sales potential alone, however, that was not the case. Not that most of you will ever find out for yourselves but I am an honest, genuine individual who works hard at making decisions that will bring forth the best in every project. I chose these bands because of the fact that they are HUGE Misfits fans and they also happen to be amazing bands that have left their mark on the 90's music scene. These bands jumped at the idea of doing this record and they looked upon the opportunity as an honor. False - Caroline is looking to make cash off of your fanfare. True - This tribute came about out of the gluttony of bad tributes out there. To me there were too many tributes being created which either payed homage to bands who didn't really impact anything or had a collection of bands that not one person in this planet could listen to in one sitting (i.e. country act on track one followed by a metal group followed by a folk singer, etc.). I make no more money out of this record than anyone else and it was my idea and my idea alone. I did this because I thought the Misfits deserved a tribute, and we all agree they do. Ban this record? Give me a break! We are all individuals and we all like different things. Isn't that the beauty of being an individual? Fans of the bands on the record will discover that the Misfits songs rule! They will go out and discover the legacy of the band and that is what this is all about. False - The band's labels made them do a cover for credibility. True - This is an insult to bands who have worked for years to succeed. To insult bands like Sick Of It All, Goldfinger, etc. is just plain wrong. Sick Of It All is one of the hardest working, ass kicking, honest and down right respectable bands out there. I contacted the bands directly to get them involved and to give all the labels credit, they all worked hand in hand to make sure the band's desires to be on the record come to fruition. That is why the bands and their labels are thanked first and foremost in the record. Am I beyond criticsm? No. Is what I do perfect? No. All I ask is that I and the bands on the record are praised and criticized on relevant points and concerns. This is a tribute from bands in the 90's to the Misfits. These bands have enough of their own talent and identity that they don't need to emulate the Misfits. What fun is that anyway? The point of this record is: Interperation NOT emulation. All I ask is that everyone give the record some time. Let it sink in. I was quite shocked the first few times I heard some of these songs. But as time went on I began to look at this compilation as a fun compliment to the Misfits records that I know and love. This is not the Misfits and it is not a Misfits release but it IS the great songs we all love. When was the last time any of us picked up a various artists collection and thought every song was great? I haven't had that happen to me in years. Violent World is not what we expected? What out there is what we expect it to be? If it was, how much fun would life be? I think that that's the fun of this record; it challenges and not what we expected. I would like to thank everyone for their passion towards this record. It shows how a record like this can strike a chord, both good and bad. I just wanted to set some things straight, to stop some false statements before they become known as a "reality". I also wanted to give you my take on the situation so you know where I was coming from when I put this record together. I hope you will all give it a shot and appreciate it for what is; a homage performed BY fans FOR the fans. Thanks for your time and I'll keep Mark posted on any Misfits news coming up. tomb ------------------------------ From: "m.s.k" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible #296 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 03:35:16 -0500 (EST) > From: tom > > I'd also like to thank Mark for setting all of this stuff up and especially > for making me those tapes (if you don't remember Mark, it was a long time > ago - i'm Tom from Canada if that helps). Of course I remember Tom from Canada... > What about the Misfits? I missed them here last time (hey i was underage > and did everything i could think of to get in but nothing worked) but it > will never happen again. It's safe to assume they'll be back up there sometime in the next 6 months or so. > From: Blagripper@aol.com > Subject: who's flaming who? > > ok mark, first things first, you go and ban some of my post due to some rules > you have about flaming others,saying that some of my comments are a little > off color, but yet you continue to let others post their flames, including > bobby, i know he was a misfit, but rules are rules, right mark? second, Excellent point Blag. As I'm sure some of you noticed, the last few issues were insanely large, mostly due to pointless flaming or some other form of waste. Please save that stuff for personal email. When I have the time, I go through and cut that stuff out, but that shouldn't be my job. Please think before you post, especially when it involves long posts or little appropriate content. Keep in mind that juno.com users cannot receive messages larger than 61440 bytes. > From: Daniel Herrmann > Subject: Where are they now... > > WHAT ever happened to Franche Coma, Mr. Jim, Steve Zing, Damien, > Manny, Joey Image, Arthur Googy, Robo, and London May? Oh yeah, in response Franche Coma went on to play guitar for Active Ingredients and is now a father of 4 in Lodi. Mr. Jim went back to his band Continental Crawler and still lives in Lodi. Steve Zing is currently living in Lodi, and touring with his band Chyna who just released an EP. Damien is living in NJ, and is Iggy Pop's tour guitarist. Manny disappeared and then randomly showed up at a Danzig show (8/18/90). Joey Image moved to Florida. Arthur Googy drummed for Antidote and still lives in New York City. Robo worked at Proedge for about 10 years and recently returned to South America to open a pizza restaurant with his family. London May went on to play with lots of bands (Dag Nasty, Distorted Pony, and others) and is now living in Louisville. > From: Stephen Gorny > Subject: Stuff > > Speaking of which - what exactly are the terms surrounding the old Fits > tunes. Some have said that Glenn has all of the rights to them, that the > new band cannot record them again - live or otherwise. Others have said > they can, but have to pay him royalties. On the other hand, someone else > who recently interviewed Glenn tated that he said that Jerry and Co. are > holding out (about the box set) and that they have a lot more they could > put out, but are witholding. Um....if Glenn owns the rights to all of > the old Fits tunes, wouldn't he be the one holding out? Does Caroline > own any of it??? Glenn owns publishing rights to all old Misfits songs. Caroline owns the recordings. The Misfits, according to their agreement with Glenn, cannot re-record old songs that he wrote, although they can perform them. In a recent interview, Glenn said that Caroline (not Jerry & Doyle) were holding out on other material, which is not the case. Caroline put everything that Glenn gave them (and he was required to give them EVERYTHING he had) onto the box set so everyone could stop complaining about unreleased tracks. Unfortunately, this also included the fake Misfits tracks that Glenn himself recorded. > I have to wonder cuz, as far as I'm aware, other than the Max's X-mas > (and maybe other live recordings made by the band) I don't remember > seeing anything on the box set that wasn't around in bootleg form > before. Are we really missing more than a few songs. I don't know > (although I want to see that Studio Z vid w/ Howie Pyro - Bobby!!!!) There was plenty of stuff on the box that had never come out. The original mixes of the 5 songs from the Horror Business session were not widely distributed, most of the Song Shop session was not out there, some of the Static Age mixes of the Static Age tracks were not out, and the last 2 songs on the session disc (remixes done by Glen) were not out on bootleg. There are several demo tracks that were not included on the box set because Caroline did not receive the masters. Either Glenn lost them, never had them, or decided to keep them. Nobody will ever know. Obviously, there is plenty of live stuff not included on the box. For those of you who don't like ANY of the tracks on the Violent World tribute album, I heard it at least tastes pretty good. mark ------------------------------ From: KWard93399@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:18:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: A toast! errrr..post. Well, it seems it never fails. Whether it's Nazis or Satanism or just ripping on how Jews like myself are anti-Christs, there is always a hot topic here. This time it's ugly Nationalism. Seems a few of you paid a little too much attention to George Bush when he was Pez, I mean Pres. So, what happens to the MB this Summer? I don't want to even think about Usenet... It's sad to see it go. And it is actually starting to get rather readable. Lots of auctions and info lately. As far as the tribute CD, I guess I might break down and buy it sometime. At least they didn't rehash the Metallica and Guns'N'Roses covers... And NOFX kinda amuse me at times... If anyone has an Undead "It's Corruption" 45 for sale, let me know. This is the UK band, not Bobby's band. Ken "You have the right to food money, provided of course you don't mind a little investigation, humiliation....and you have the right to free speech, as long as you're not dumb enough to actually try it!" - The Clash "Know Your Rights" ------------------------------ From: dave rieth Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:06:05 -0700 Subject: bootleg videos Got some bootlegs up for trade: Misfits: Action Park 8/31/96 excellent quality nearly 2 hours Orlando, Fl 6/21/96 excellent quality 85+ min. unknown show probably 82 typical quality good to listen to! Boston, Ma 3-20-83 OK quality Samhain: Unknown show from Initium Tour good quality Rancid: (if anyone cares) Barrington, In 10/93 good quality looking for anything that's not on this list email for set lists etc. degenerated@wwdg.com will trade video for video or video for 3 dubbed audio ------------------------------ From: SeanC138@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:16:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: hey Hi!!! I have been a subscriber for a while now and I heard the bible will be over in the summer. I want to thank Mark for taking the time in putting this together. I have met a couple cool people as a result of this who I can chat about music with and discover new bands with. I am more a death metal person but I love the Misfits. Does anyone on here ever attend the Metalfest in Milwaukee??? I have heard it is going to be cancelled this year. Any news? And also does anyone know how to get email addresses of bands or band members? If you know the answer to either of these questions please email me @SeanC138@aol.com so we don't take up bible space. Once again, thanks for all your work Mark and I will talk to all you fiends later!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Mike Hoffman Subject: voilent world vinyl Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:50:56 -0500 i've got a couple copy's of voilet world today if any one can't find them e-mail me (white+orange vinyl) ------------------------------ From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano Subject: Geoff's dream band Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:47:34 -0500 Food for thought: Is Geoff going call his dream band the Ouija Board All-Stars? :) "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net ------------------------------ From: SICKELS@main.library.duq.edu Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:11:45 -0500 Subject: GG Allin If anybody wants to trade some GG stuff, I have some of his Scum Fucks and Texas Nazis stuff. Take it easy fiends. ------------------------------ From: x_killebrew@vultur.emcmt.edu Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:35:54 -0700 Subject: bye bye hell o This really sucks in our age of sarcasm as part of conversation we have turned into a bunch of cabon copy bitchers and moaners.The bible is a cool thing in idea but there is just to much Bullshit on here for me.All this I am a satanist and what does danzig believe in and montlycrue and the name calling and little bitchers behind a keyboard, its all very lame. But I do have to say I have heard from and contacted some very cool fiends out there.There are alot of real cool fiends out there but the bitchy ones fill up 75% of the bible with this sucks crap or put downs to others.Shit they even put down Bobby Steele for christ sake.Bobby is an important part of all of our roots he is a piece of punk history that is responsible for all the stuff we are into today.It was an honor when Bobby Steele responded to my email.He is an influence to many guitar players out there today and he dosent get the credit he deserves.I dont know much about all these law- suits all these guys have with eachother all I know is the music stands up through the years.Bobby is a supercool guy I have heard many stories about him contacting fans try to get Henry Rollins or Glen Danzig to write back to you.I hope Bobby gets whatever he wants out of his lawsuits simply becuase the guy deserves it.Every member who was in the misfits deserves a piece of the pie they worked for it.How would you like it if someone took your work and took credit for it?you wouldnt. Remember the most improtant thing the Misfits,Bobbysteele,And the undead are our roots.Jerry only,Doyle,Glenn they are our roots.The survivors of the real first wave of punk are very important to us all and should be treated with respect.They worked there asses off and came up with something new that blew us all away. Support Bobby and the misfits they deserve it they havent given up on what this shit is all about and that is the music and the feeling the music brings. I think people should give up on trying to figure danzigs relgion it is really not that important.If he became a Jew or a muslim would you still buy his records?I dont know I am an idiot but it is something to think about. Oh ya NOFX is a great skate/punk band contrary to what you hear on that Violent World thing.They are truely one of the last bands with enough balls to say to their record label if you put any of our videos on MTV we will sue you.I see them as one as a very ballsy band that will possibly be a future influence for the next generation of punk. well thats enough no more I aint no whore and I aint plying nice with others.I will be a fan of the misfits and the undead forever but I will never be a fan of bullshit.so write me off the list I am bored with gossip. I aint here to be cool so this is my last submission.Thank you to all the cool fiends out there and to Bobby Steele for inspiration (my check is in the mail for times square)and being cool.Stick a fork in me I'm done. Plutonius and SWITCH. ps.HBK sorry about the retirement get well soon. .....this fucking boring hippie shit sid." John Lydon ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:30:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: black dream anybody know where can you get that black dream boot? i have unholy passion but i'd really like to have it on cd. thanks in advance for any help. D.EVIL ------------------------------ From: "\"The Righteous Black Duck\" CJ Marsicano" Subject: Live tapes for sale: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:00:02 -0500 The following live tapes are for sale: Black Flag: Muskrat Love double LP direct from wax. HS dub from chrome tape. $10 This lineup of BF was the last one and never recorded anything. Ginn quit a month after the tour ended. Appx. 90 mins. -- Annihilation: Cd length rough mix of Who's Got The 10 1/2 with several songs not used on the final album. $10 Appox. 70 min. S.O.D.: Live At The Ritz Plus. Full show from 12/19/85 plus halloween radio interview and rehearsal footage. Appox. 60 min. $10 Husker Du: Live '84 Hometown crowd. Band chats and even jams with members of the audience. Cool intamate show, great sound. Appox. 50 min. $10 More to come incl. Rollins Band, Sonic Youth, etc. e-mail for ordering details. "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:54:30 -0330 (NST) From: Stephen Warren Subject: i love america hey, you guys are right. america is the grandest country of all. and my stupidity and ignorance is an insult to you all. i don't really wipe my ass with an american flag, i was just joking, ok? hey, are we still all friends? or should i say, fiends. you americans are so wonderful. you're not going to get your president to shoot any missles at my house, right? i hope not. lets all pause together to pay tribute to the greatest country on earth. god bless america! good will towards men. -steve- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:53:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "D.ETH" Subject: Responses... Well, I hate to continue the Canada vs. U.S. debate (which, I believe I started), but I must say the following things. Which is better, Canada or U.S.? I see no point in arguing. if you love your country (like you should) your answer is obvious. I have no love for the States, but to all Americans who do, I applaud you. Stephen Warren complained: >all us canadians do is drown in americana! i can tell you who the >presidents are but i have no idea about the prime ministers. we're the >tv generation, pal. Hey, that's your own fault. I hate television. As for not knowing the Prime Ministers? Again, it's not my fault you skipped history. Why not immerse yourself in some Canadiana? You live here, you must know we have a rich history and culture, it's just not as famous as the States'. Strych9 observed: >If Canada had ANYTHING worth taking, America would have taken it by >now... Nuff said... Indeed they have... and continue to do so (ie: forestry and real estate [Wal-mart buying Woolco, Sears buying Simpsons, A Starbucks next to every Second Cup, etc.]. And I won't even bring up the hockey thing. Inzo promised: >I am sending out Dengar and 4-Lom to get midevil on your buttocks Nix, nix, Dengar settled down and got married (Boba Fett was the best man). 4-LOM (and Zuckuss) retired from bounty hunting and joined the Rebellion. AZawodny said: >Someone else said "The Electric Hellfire Club was mysteriously stopped at >the border,". Yea, they should have been bound, gagged, and thrown over >Niagra falls without the benefit of a barrell. lol! That bad, huh? Bye folks, D.ETH email: darryl.etheridge@sheridanc.on.ca http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3425/ "You're skating on the edge." "I *am* the edge." --- Aeon Flux ------------------------------ Date: 14 FEB 97 13:18:45 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: i probably shouldnt get involved but ... Blag said "ok mark, first things first, you go and ban some of my post due >to some rules you have about flaming others,saying that some of my >comments are a little off color, but yet you continue to let others post >their flames, including bobby, i know he was a misfit, but rules are >rules, right mark? Blag, I haven't seen the posts that Mark wouldn't put out there, but I noticed that all your messages consistently over the past few months were ripping Bobby, or Tammy, or whomever got on your bad side that week. They definitly aren't adding any value to the discussion on this list and it seems the only things you ever had to say was ripping someone a new one, which after a while, gets boring. If you want to have an email war with someone, why don't you do it via private email? All the addresses are out there. We all have disagreements on this list and they are usually settled in a few issues with some flames going on, however, it seems at least to me, that all your posts were about nothing except flaming other fiends. While I don't endorse any big brother attitudes I think its in Mark's best interest to police the MB when indivuals seem to display nothing but a desire to cause as much anarchy as possible and drive away other fiends who actually do alot of good for our little group (witness the Christoter situation). If you feel the need to flame me, go right ahead...... AZ ------------------------------ Date: 14 FEB 97 13:37:57 EST From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: dream band(s) oh yea, here is my dream band when I'm asleep Pam Anderson Lee - Vocals Salma Hayek - Guitar Heather Locklear - Guitar Christina Applegate - Bass Jennifer Aniston - Drums Jenna Jameson - Tromboner, Male Organ and Skin Flute but when I wake up its .. Glenn Danzig - vocals Neil Young - Gutiar Steve Jones - Guitar Les Claypool - Bass Chuck Biscuits - Drums az ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:38:43 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: Goldfinger Ok - I've seen a few of you taking swipes at Goldfinger so I'm gonna step up on their behalf. First off, I see no comparisons between them and Green Day other than the fact that MTV and radio stations decided that they should be hot and start playing them. These guys spent a while workign their asses off on the west coast for a while before they ever rel;eased an album. They did the indie release thing and even made their own music videos - a very do-it-yourself kind of thing, not too unlike Bad Religion back in the day. Second they do a good show, which, when I see a band in a club, is just what I wanna say. They also take what they do very tongue in cheek. They're not up there looking pissed off and trying to impart serious social commentary (those are generally the laughable poseurs). So what if their songs have hooks and melodies. They're not trying to be punk (which so many people are these days) - they're just being themselves and writing stuff they like. If they have gained a high level of popularity doing that - good for them. I've seen them several times and have seen them do covers of the Fits, Motley Crue, Squeeze and several other bands. Why do they do it? Cuz its fun for them. But at least they're honest about what they do. ================================================================================ Stephen Gorny [] In Baltimore, "civil rights leaders" raised a huge Department of Psychology [] uproar over the issue of Confederate flags on UMBC [] state license plates - saying it is a symbol of 1000 Hilltop Circle [] hatred and racism. Yet these people have said Baltimore, MD 21250 [] almost nothing about the racially motivated [] assaults and murders of Korean citzens by members sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu [] of the African-American community. Apparently, [] they believe that civil rights violations occur [] only when certain types of people are the victims. ================================================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:42:22 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Gorny Subject: How is your face painted Steve - you always talk about walking around with your face "painted-up". What do you mean by this - how do you make up your face - black eye-liner, whiteface, bozo the clown makeup, Gene Simmons? What? Just curious so i know what you're talking about. ================================================================================ Stephen Gorny [] In Baltimore, "civil rights leaders" raised a huge Department of Psychology [] uproar over the issue of Confederate flags on UMBC [] state license plates - saying it is a symbol of 1000 Hilltop Circle [] hatred and racism. Yet these people have said Baltimore, MD 21250 [] almost nothing about the racially motivated [] assaults and murders of Korean citzens by members sgorny1@umbc2.umbc.edu [] of the African-American community. Apparently, [] they believe that civil rights violations occur [] only when certain types of people are the victims. ================================================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:24:46 -0500 From: dan sylvester Subject: Re: 138 Sighting/Violent World/ Marilyn Manson I bought the Violent world cd on Tuesday and I noticed it was Caroline 138 (Yeah,everyone already knows that, that's not my sighting it's just part of it) I also bought a used copy of Green Magnet School's Blood Music. Before I bought these two Cd's I had 136 cd's in my collection. The guy at the store rung up Green Magnet School first so that makes Violent World my 138th cd... but wait... before you run to the bathroom to start spankin over my sighting... the Green Magnet School cd was Sub Pop 138.... Ok you can go spank now. A couple of highlights on the Violent World Tribute are: The beginning of She when the secong guitar makes the beeping sound. The beginning of 20 Eyes and the way the singer of Shades Apart puts some classic New York style emotion into the vocals. The Singer of Tanner's voice (sounds like a cross between Jello Biafra and Guy Picciotto of Fugazi) How Deadguy re-enacted the Evilive version of Horror Business (complete with five guys cheering at the beginning so it sounds live) And just like everyone says the whole version of Return of the Fly (By far the best song) Everyone is complaining that the bands suck, well if you could pick one band to do one song what would it be?: I would pick L7 to do Hollywood Babylon Last thing, I like the rumour about Marilyn Manson being Kevin from Mr. Belvedere and I hope it keeps going but it's not true because I seen his Year Book photo in an issue of Details while at the Dentist. Dann Sylvester ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:23:12 +0100 From: adam bodnar Subject: EVILIVE CD Hey Everyone, Just to let you know, CDNOW has the MISFITS EVILIVE CD available for ADVANCED ORDER as of today. Check it out. Diabolos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:05:41 -0400 (AST) From: Des Roches Subject: where can i find shirts??? im looking for NEW MISFITS SHIRTS.where can i find them for a LOW price. check it out: MMMMMMMMM I SSSSS M M M I S M M M I SSSSS WHATEVER U GET THE POINT M M M I S M M M IM M M I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:59:36 -0500 (EST) From: Special-K Subject: Tommy is better Hey all, This post is in response to a few of the threads that have been about John vs. Tommy. In my opinion, Tommy's sound is way better! Ever listen to "Left Hand Black" played by John live, then played live by Tommy? John fucks the whole thing up. I think Tommy is more adaptable to play many different styles, while John is limited. I also prefer the way Tommy plays some of the songs faster. I feel that if it's a live show and the crowd is really into it, then why not go with the flow and jam out. Another thing that I like better about Tommy is that he doesn't just stand there and rock back and forth. He's more into it. See all you were, _____________________________________________________ | Special-K kacorch@planetx.bloomu.edu | | | | "Lucifer's face in the mirror when you look" | | -DANZIG, Long Way Back From Hell | | | | "A thousand eyes are staring, but the blind still | | lead the blind" - BLACK SABBATH, Jerusalem | |____________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:17:49 -0500 (EST) From: Special-K Subject: Dream band vocals: Glenn Danzig Guitar: Tony Iommi Bass: Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath) Drums: Vinnie Paul _____________________________________________________ | Special-K kacorch@planetx.bloomu.edu | | | | "Lucifer's face in the mirror when you look" | | -DANZIG, Long Way Back From Hell | | | | "A thousand eyes are staring, but the blind still | | lead the blind" - BLACK SABBATH, Jerusalem | |____________________________________________________| ------------------------------ From: SICKELS2220@duq3.cc.duq.edu Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:28:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: In Defense of GG The entire GG Allin concept was one of freedom. This was a man who did what he wanted, when he wanted. Of course, I wouldn't want to be in the first few rows of one of his shows, but I wish I could have seen him perform. Although I wouldn't want him to go out with my sister(or anyone else I gave a damn about), you have to respect and admire the fact that he was a truly free man. GG Allin was a criminal in the same way that nudists are: he wanted to be free. I also don't know why everyone puts down Skrewdriver. Ian Stuart stood up for what he believed in. You have to admire that. America was founded on the belief that everyone could have their own opinions. People ought to respect that instead of putting everyone down who happens to be of a minority opinion. Was David Koresh a lunatic? In my opinion, yes. But he had a right to practice his religion as he pleased, but the Feds got him because he didn't fit in to their ideal of society. Feel free to send hate mail to me. ------------------------------ Subject: hey fiends..(mephisto78) From: "J. Johnson" Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 20:31:10 EST im sure you all missed me for the 2 issues i was gone for. my mom deleted my aol, so i had to hook up juno behind her back...etc......... so if anyone still wants answers to any questions related to the misfits/samhain/danzig i will be happy to asnwer them...or i will do my best. and of course if i dont know, you could always ask the man upstairs..... im referring to mark kennedy. sorry to waste some space. The MISFITS kick ASS !!!!! could anyone send me a copy of ish. # 295, please ???? thanx fiendishly, Jordan iloveyouAA FMRadioAsaultkicksass ihatetrendyalternateensandMMfans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:18:28 -0800 From: Inzo Subject: Intium Lyric sheet Does anyone have an Initium Lyric sheet for sale or an Intium w/the lyric sheet for sale? Is one side a collage of photo's like the WAU and NCF one's??? ------------------------------ Date: Fri Feb 14 18:41:03 1997 From: Jon Jorden Subject: MDC and shit... Yo... MDC are back again. Some of the members quit or died, but they're living in Oregon now. If you need a contact for them lemme know and I'll get it to ya. Interestingly they were on of a number of bands whowere going to be on my Jam covers CD. If you think a covers CD is a load of fun and a quick way to make money you're joking yourself. I've must have spent a few thousand hours getting this together and had talks with about 40 groups... if you're interested check out: http://www.spy.net/~allroy/jam/ amazing as it sounds, i dont give a fuck what Danzig drinks. oh. one more thing, though they didn't do it in time my friend's band Uphill Down did a Misfits cover (astro zombies) and it's fucking great... i'll have it up on their page pretty soon. http://www.spy.net/~allroy/uphilldown/ jon --- --------------==============================------------------ allroy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ From: Fiend867@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 00:30:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Loveline tape with Danzig Mephisto says that he WILL get to everyone about this tape he just has "lots of shit to tango with" i just wanted to add that i found the undead "act your rage" the other day and it is very very very good and it was only 3 bucks! wes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:52:08 -0700 From: Bob Doyle Subject: Re: Canada? >Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:25:27 +0800 >From: Strych9 >Subject: Canada? >So should we americans get mad that Canada hardly ever makes the news in >the states? Probablly not, besides the only interesting thing that I can >remember about canadians, is that special forces team that was sent down >as part of the UN peace keeping team, and got busted for torturing and >killing a lot of civilians... >Stephen Warren said: >>all us canadians do is drown in americana! i can tell you who the >>presidents are but i have no idea about the prime ministers. we're the >>tv generation, pal. >So get pissed at your own country for showing you OUR news and not your >OWN! Why is it America's fault that your boring ass country aint got >shit to talk about? >>i think all you americans should know that when i run out of toilet >>paper, i wipe my ass with an american flag. ah, god bless america. >Is that supposed to hurt? Y'know heres the funny thing. And this >always gets Canadians really pissed cuz they know its true, but.... >If Canada had ANYTHING worth taking, America would have taken it by >.now... Nuff said... >One last thing... I suppose I should thank canada for one thing. They >did supply us with most of our alcohol when America was in >.Prohabition... hmmm...sounds too me like you aren't any better than that Stephen Warren guy man, not all of us Canadians are into US-bashing...theres some that are but in the states theres the same kind, in fact in any country there is. Personally I don't think your statement had musch thought put into it, you're making yourself out to sound exactly like what you just said you hated...just another canada/u.s.-basher. I really don't understand why people have to get into that 'cause Canada and U.S. need eachother, like it or not we're all in this together. Your Fiend, - Bob Doyle - "Give me the fucking beer you punk!" - [Glenn Danzig: Misfits 04/17/82] - PUNQ EWE RECORDS ------------------------------ From: Misfitmole@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:06:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: more info. on Jersey Misfits show Here's an update on the Misfits show at the Castle in Hamburg,NJ on Feb. 28th: As of 2-14, the line-up is The Slags, us (Squiggy), Sardonica, Flatus, and the 'Fits. The show is now 18 and up, and $22 admission (pretty steap, but this IS the only 'Fits show in the US lined up right now). anyway, for info. call The Castle at (201) 827-1617. Cheers, Joel (Squiggy) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 00:11:55 -0600 From: Child of the KoRn Subject: violent world anyone who doesn't want their violent world CD, I'll buy it! one of my fiend friends brought it to school and i thought it was great (except for the NOFX version of last caress). anyways, anyone who wants to sell me thier copy, please mail me 'cause it's hard to find this CD in Houston. -wes- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 00:57:00 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Fama Subject: Danzig's contract demands Tammy -- I hope you meant to say that that list of demands was for the entire band AND for the road crew. If not, then they must have been pretty sick the next day. Also, don't you find it odd that, even with all of that stuff, they demanded only one role of paper towels? -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 03:55:38 -0800 (PST) From: Christoffer Jonsson Subject: Record collectors are pretentious assholes... Heres some information to the Swedish bible readers. As you probably knows MISFITS will play Malm 25/4, Vnersborg 26/4 & Sthlm 27/4. If you have problems to choose what show to go to, Id suggest the one in VBG. It an all-day festival, but the entire line-up is not finished yet. Confirmed are: Cleveland hatemongers INTEGRITY (first ever swedish show) will be spreading their apocalyptic hardcore. NYHC legends MURPHYS LAW. Umes Hardcores REFUSED (best liveband in the world) & ABHINANDA + a variety of lesser known swedish/foreign hardcorepunkrokkers. Youll catch me wipping trough the pit in both VBG and Sthlm. Does anybody have any POISON IDEA and REAGAN YOUTH stuff to sale or trade? Im looking for both records and merchandise. A R.Y. t-shirt or a P.I. patch would be great!!! Also looking for AGNOSTIC FRONT merchandise. AGNOSTIC FRONT have signed to the american Victory label for 125 000 dollars!!! Nuff said... I think all of you Misfitfans should check out THE MOBILE MOB FREAKSHOW from Malm, Sweden. Good band with a Fitz feeling. My hardcorepunk band is still looking for a name, so keep `em cuming!!! Best Wishes XDX --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:04:26 -0500 From: marcia disilvestro Subject: shirts FIENDS How can you buy Misfits shirts like EARTH AD, HORROR BUISNESS, FIEND CLUB, and LEGACY OF BRUTALITY? Are these shirts not made anymore? Also that number on the postcard with all those shirts that the fiend club gave, the phone number never picks up. e-mail me if you can help out ADAM P.S. no one is ever on the #misfits chat rooms that sux ------------------------------ From: "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano Subject: Dream bands #2 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:01:16 -0500 The Righteous Black Duck's dream band #2: vocals/guitar: D. Boon (minutemen) tenor and alto saxes: John Coltrane trumpet: Miles Davis piano/organ/synthesisers: Sun Ra bass: Mike Watt (minutemen) drums: George Hurley (minutemen) CJ Carey aka "The Righteous Black Duck" CJ Marsicano irieduck@ptd.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:11:29 -0500 From: dirt Subject: Action Park &.. Feinds, Just wanted to let you know that thanx to Leah, I now have the Action Park show from 8/31/96 on vid (Mark could you add this to my list), and wanted to let those that are waiting on vids from me, that I tried my best to get caught up over the weekend, but I'm gonna be out of town all week so have a little patience--and please hold off on any video requests (via e-mail or snail mail) till the end of the week. Thanx, and doesn't anyone have any Red Kross videos out there? Nick "dirt" ------------------------------ From: MR HAROLD W JAFFE Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:14:56, -0500 Subject: hardcore this is a non misfits post... it turns out some people on here like hardcore also, anyways i am interested in picking up any video footage of hardcore bands, also some albums dubbed on to tape if possible. if you have anything, please e-mail me. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:10:16 -0600 From: ghoul Subject: Violent World Well, I feel silly asking this, but anyone know of a place where I can order the vinyl? Say, off of the net? I looked at all the places I know. There are no record shops in town other than a vintage shop, and if you're not a hippy, you gotta search through many moldy boxes to find anything of value, much less anything new. Don't worry, I can't even get it on CD, since the only place that even carries stuff off of caroline is Camelot (puke) and they don't even have Earth AD on disc. So, help would be cool. Thanks fiends. ------------------------------ From: ahren@thesea.com Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:32:30 -0800 Subject: photos of Misfits "star trek" Halloween show I know it's a little late, but I just recently got to thinking how utterly great it would be to get a hold of some pics of the Misfits in their Star Trek costumes...anyone here got any? I don't really have anything to trade, except my Jerry shirt that's signed by Jerry. And I'm taking it to my grave! I do have a videotape of the Stone Pony show,though. But hey, guess what I saw the other day...I had to go down the street to get some supplies for work. So I'm walkin down the isle and I see some x-acto knives with a little American flag on the packaging. I pick one up to see how much they cost, and lo 'n' behold, it was proudly manufactured by Pro-Edge, in N.J. This is on a Navy base in Japan. Small world,huh? Later, all replies to... ahren@thesea.com ------------------------------ From: 02459@udel.edu Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:50:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: 28th I have a correction for the people who wanted to go to the show on the 28th, but got all sad because it was 21 and over. It's not! But it is 18 and over (sorry). Joel was right about everything else though. I called the club and they said that it was confirmed. Friday, February 28th The Castle Hamburg (I think), NJ 201-827-1617 Emily ------------------------------ From: Mark Allen Blackman Subject: Offer Of A Lifetime... Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:56:41 -0500 -For Sale or Trade- After giving it some serious thought, I have decided to part with my Earth A.D. Wall Plaque. This one-of-a-kind wall plaque and is titled "60 Year-Old Copper" and was purchased at the 1995 Chiller Theatre Horror Convention. It was both sculpted and hand-painted by Jerry Only's middle-brother (not Doyle) and comes with a signed Certificate of Authenticity and a cool Earth A.D. Box. The wall plaque is made of a thick resin. I originally purchased it for $150. Which means I will sell it outright for $150. It is too cool to sell for less. I will however, trade for it. In fact, I would be willing to trade it even up for one of the following original Misfits records: Second Pressing Red Vinyl "Bullet" Third Pressing "Bullet" Yellow Vinyl "Horror Business" with Insert "Night Of The Living Dead" with Insert Fiend Clud Edition of "Evilive" with Insert White Vinyl "Three Hits From Hell" Clear Vinyl "Earth A.D." Green Vinyl "Earth A.D." If you have a record that is not listed there (because it is worth more than those) and you would still like to trade. I would consider trading and than paying out some additional money. Just make me an offer. Unlike Misfits records, there is only ONE of these wall plaques in existance. For more information just e-mail me. Later, Mark Blackman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:41:56 -0800 From: Fay Beckman Subject: (no subject) johnny, well, dumbass, perhaps you may have noticed that *I* didnt make that stupid post. i dunno who gets off on doing shit like that, but hey, knock yourself out. here's a few hints: i have a pretty damn good command of the english language, im not particularly vulgar unless im very angry, and that's not very often, and i sure as fuck would never post anything like that or jump on a bandwagon of any sort. also, put your real address up so i dont have to annoy people defending myself against this sort of inane bullshit. fay ------------------------------ From: sixsins@globalserve.net Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:10:38 -0500 Subject: Strych9...so typical. >Why is it America's fault that your boring ass country aint got >shit to talk about? Well, it's not that, it's just that we Canadians aren't as pigheaded, self indulged, egotistical or ignorant as alot of Americans (not all, there are really cool Americans, same as there are cool people in every race, nationality or religion or other socially fabricated classifications designed to divide the human race into levels of equality) but as far as I can tell, American news shows really only care about the americans. Well, sorry bub, but there are a hell of a lot more countries in the world than just the states. Quiz: How many American people can answer the following: 1) What was the name of the man who defected to south korea from north korea and why is it so signifigant? 2) Who is the political leader of Canada, and what is his/her title? 3) What is the capital of Canada? Sorry, i feel i have to post this, in order to stand up for myself as a canadian in front of such sheer ignorance. I do not mean to offend anyone by this post, especially Americans. I know there are a lot of you out there, and you aren't all like that...it is truly unfortunate that your public figures and icons all seem to portray the above qualities. In my experience, I go to your country, and always run into some ignorant goof who thinks we all live in igloos, or that Canada is really another state. Seriously, it happens. And Strych9, think before you speak, lest you become a stereotype. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:24:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Hesitant Return Fiends, Well, I wasn't going to come back, but the statement from the original instigator convinced me. Thanks, I guess. Okay, I'm going to spew a lot of stuff out in this particular post. First, the comment a few bibles back that Glenn might be a Nazi for saying he'd fight on the side of whites if a race war started. What side should he fight on? I mean, the idea of a race war is a bit silly in my view....I suppose street and gang violence may constitute a race war....but seriously, if America got into a fight with Canada, would you expect him to fight on the side of Canada? Of course not. It's logic. I don't think it necesarily had to be said.....but..... Glenn mentions he has two older brothers on Superock, I forgot if I mentioned that already, but I remember someone asking. Okay, the following three reviews are 1) Danzig 2/14/97 2) Violent World 3) Hell on Earth. 1) Danzig 2/14/97 Vic Theater, Chicago IL. The Misfits sold this place out in June, Danzig did not. First off, merchandise run down---About 10 different comics, priced as they would be in the back of Verotik comic for back orders. 5 shirts. 1) Cover of Blackacid, back with cities. 2) Cover of Sacrifice, same back as 1. 3) New skull. Backdrop cover in live show....same as original, a little fancier with horns bent in, same back as 1. 4) New Glenn/Skull with "Danzig5--Blackacidevil" or something to that measure on back. 5) Original skull with "Danzig" on back. They also had a knit stocking hat with "Danzig5" on it. Everything was $22. Shirts 1, 4, and 5 I had seen before in stores for $10, so if I were you I'd look around afterwards (that's what I did, at least). Okay, Cold Chamber. You think Marilyn Manson wants to be GG? If this guy's beard was pink he would be GG's twin. The music was Marilyn Manson/Korn with the chick from White Zombie on bass. It was worth the price of admission to see her jump around and then fall right on her ass. Half way through the set one of the monitor's caught on fire. A lot of humor. Electric Hellfire Club. They had free posters in lobby. Strange. Very strange. They had a dancing girl and 4 guys. A guy who looked like Trent Reznor on keyboards, a guy who looked like he belonged in Damn Yankees on guitar, a "drummer" (he played a machine) who looked like a scrawny bald Jerry Only, and a singer that kinda looked like Rob Zombie with a green fur coat. They were okay, but got boring after 40 minutes. They brought out a whip and were whipping people in the audience---not very appropriate, if you ask me. The dancer wore a skimpy little outfit and during one tune, the singer simulated raping her. If this was a strip club, I wouldn't have a problem with that, but seriously....it's an all ages Danzig show. Finally Danzig. Songs played (out of order)---Mother, Sacrifice, Until You Call, Twist of Cain, Her Black Wings, Left Hand, Dirty Black, Deep, It's Coming, 7th House, Blackacid, Hint of Her, Bringer of Death, Long Way Back Encore--Hand of Doom, She Rides. VERY short show. 67 minutes. Too short. Hint of Her Blood and Bringer of Death were cut short. HOHB was about 3 minutes long, and BOD had about half a verse and then cut to the bridge. Glenn was very active. I was front middle against the bar, and he was constantly by me. For those saying he has a beer belly, I accidently hit him in the stomach, and that was the hardest beer belly I've ever felt. He was very cool, and in the Long Way Back From Hell he stuck the mike in my face and we traded lines "Do you want to take a life," etc. Needless to say it was extremely exciting. GREAT show, but very short. Tommy was all smiles...he played well except on Dirty Black in which he fucks it up big time. He uses it as his time to show he knows his false harmonics. Josh was very cool, running around. No one paid much attention to him, especially when Tommy is near, so if he's near you, point to him and give him a thumbs up and he'll slap your hand and probably give you a pick. Glenn sounded great. Personally, I thought this was the tightest I'd ever seen the band. The crowd was the most violent I had ever seen and a lot of people had no class. Let me just say this---if you are a 200 pound+ male and you have to shove 90 pound girls around to feel like a tough guy, you are A WORTHLESS MAGGOT. I saw more than a few girls punched in the face for bumping into someone....security did a good job and throwing those assholes out, but it's truly sickening when you see something like that. I feel bad about not being able to do anything about it but, 1) I was pretty much stuck up there even if I wanted out. 2) I can't take on a gang of skinheards. As I said earlier I was front, middle, against the rail. By the end of the show, I recognized no one around me as just about everyone split that was there at the beginning of the set. Tons of skinheads. Of course, there were a lot of cool people and a lot of non-skinheads that cleaned up after a while. Another thing I'd like to address is that there were quite a few people yelling "Misfits, Misfits" "Hatebreeders" Etc. If you want to see Misfits songs, go to a Misfits show, not a Danzig one. 2) Violent World. I won't go into detail. I just don't like it, but that's because I'm not big on punk. London is okay, All Hell is okay, and Earth AD is okay. But, just okay. Eh. I'm glad I have it and everything, but it's not really my thing. 3) Hell on Earth. This is the tribute to buy! It's more expensive than VW, but it's twice as long and much much better. You can get it from a few people over the 'net. I got it at Impulse Music for $22. Okay, it's over an hour long, 30 tracks, 20 bands. Hightlights-- Entombed--Hollywood Babylon. YES! Best Misfits cover I have ever heard. Left Hand Solution--She. Female singer, slowed down, almost opera-like. Extremely beautiful. This is worth the price of the CD in itself. Tenebre--Halloween II. Imagine Type O covering this tune. Deranged--Some Kinda Hate. 4+ minutes long. SLOW death metal. Pretty funny, actually. Sex Sex Sex---Halloween. Black Aria meets the Misfits. Too cool. There's plenty more, a few punk bands, a few crappy bands, some pretty off the wall stuff. Lots and lots of variety. It's really worthwhile. Check it out. I think that's about it. Sorry this is so long, but I segmented it, so if you weren't interested it was very easy to just page down. Bootlegs---yep I'm the bootleg guy. $5 a tape. Check the list on the News section of the WWW page. If you want to see it, go there. I would post it, but I think this post is long enough as it is without another three page list of shit. Chris ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:26:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Thanks My eternal thanks to all of those who supported me either on the Bible or via e-mail. I won't name names because then I'd forget one, and feel bad about it, but you know who you are and so do I. Thanks Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:22:31 -0800 From: Grandpa Atomic Subject: Return of the Fly, Part 3 First of all...I gotta comment on this. I read TomB's (very clever!) response to the bashing/complimenting (not much of that in my area) of the Violent World LP...let me try to give my two cents on it without getting off onto an anti-Earth Crisis rant like I did the last time, and I want to respond to Tom's comments. First of all Tom, to say you put out an album for the fans and not to make money is ridiculous. There is not a major label on the face of the Earth who would do that, and in my eyes, Caroline is about the biggest indie label there is...definitely a major, huge corporation. Secondly, the choice of bands is pathetic, I think. Pick a bunch of future rock stars, put them on a comp, and let them play Misfits songs. If I am correct, when the Misfits first started out, they weren't really part of ANY scene whatsoever! They really weren't popular, punk wasn't a commercial thing, blah blah blah. Sure, they picked up later, but they were quite rough, raw, and rocking in those early days. Now, I would hope, a tribute album would be done by bands of the same nature. Bands who understand the genius of the songs, bands who like the horror aspect, bands who aren't nescessarily popular. You put Goldfinger on a Misfits comp? That alone repulsed me. You have a mix of Victory hardcore bands, SoCal pop-punk bands, and English alternabands, yeah, that's fairly bad, but to toss on some pseudo-musical band is just too much! I find it hard to believe that Goldfinger, who play really bad ska-punk-oi hybrids and open for the dead carcass that was the Sex Pistols, and who have stolen more riffs from Stiff Little Fingers than the original band itself, would be "dedicated, hardworking Misfits fans." Now I'm not asking for Christian Death to be on this comp (God no!) I'm just asking for bands who really can do the songs some justice. Sure, if I wanted the songs the way they were supposed to sound, I'd listen to the Misfits. But I also don't want to hear some of my favirote songs being defaced...Snapcase's version of "She" had to be the worst (well, Therapy? and Goldfinger don't count)..."She" was originally a great gothic tune, now it's some NYHC bash-fest...yech. Excuse me for not purchasing this. I am hoping the Four Hits from Mars would be a little bit better. Anyway, to start a NEW THREAD (AHH!!!!) I think people should list what bands they would want doing what songs, if they could make it happen. So I will be gutsy here, and run it down. Flame/compliment all you want. I can dream, I guess... Rattus - Horror Buisness (I have a Rattus live tape with this...pretty thrashy) Candy Snatchers - Attitude (I saw them play this once...unbelievable) CR - Death Comes Ripping (the best NYHC band now...as good as early SOIA) His Hero Is Gone - Theme For a Jackel (I guarantee you, scariest version ever) Phantom Pregnancies - She (this is some great trashy UK keyrawk here...more fun) Kiss It Goodbye - Where Eagles Dare (this is the REAL Deadguy right here...) The Remains - Hollywood Babylon (wouldn't this be neat?) Reverend Horton Heat - American Nightmare (yeah! rockabilly USA! would be super...) The Hookers - Bullet (they play this too...the Kentucky Hookers, not the rock star ones) Guitar Wolf - Spook City USA (this would be the weirdest Misfits cover...sounds hip!) GISM - Halloween II (Hee hee! GISM's Sakevi is a brutal vox who actually sounds good!) 45 Grave - Cough/Cool (this would be the best done version, I'm positive of it) Devil Dogs - anything (my favirote rock band ever, I just wanna hear them do something) Black Flag - Hate Breeders (they used to play this occasionally...one of the best) Crunch - Astro Zombies (Crunch is the craziest band of recent memory...like ten styles) Fat Day - whichever tune Pennywise did (if you want hooky pop-punk, these guys are good) Johnny Cash - Die Die My Darling (yeah! the Man in Black! so what if he's country!) Bobby Soxx - Mommy?... (Why? Because Bobby Soxx would actually be the only guy I could envision singing this and meaning it...he was a scary one too..."Scavenger of Death" sounded like a Misfits song, as did "Hate in the 80's" and "Fleshthroat", so...) There ya go. A pretty diverse comp, and except for the Devil Dogs, 45 Grave and Black Flag, all of those artists are currently playing today. Well GISM is kinda in a state of remission, but who cares, that would be one hell of a comp, seems to bring the same diversity with bands who really are pretty hard workers, and a lot of them are pretty DIY, not trying to appeal to any trends or get on MTV, much like the Misfits once were. Maybe I just got specific tastes, and don't like corporate bands and rock stars...eh...who am I kidding? Violent World will sell just fine and make plenty of $$. I'm sure Tom will see some nice cash himself, so he doesn't need to explain anything to any of us, but it was nice of him to come out of the Trojan Horse and talk a little...at least he defends his projects, and I will try to continue arguing intelligently (or as intelligently as I can on a musical subject). I (as I'm sure the rest of you are) am extremely anxious for the new Misfits LP...counting the days 'til April. I'm secretly hoping for tons of different color vinyl, so I can snag them. Tee hee. I guess it's a scum thing. As for GG Allin, this will be my last comment on the matter...GG took everything he did very seriously. Maybe I'm too liberal, but I don't see how cool and hip it is to attack 5' 110 pound women in a diner with a steel chair. I donknow. He was a scummy asshole, and now he's dead, and we're all a little happier. I will say this...GG was an extremely confrontational and extremely violent guy, but with those stupid song names (way too cheesy for anyone to take seriously) and the plain out fact his music SUCKED, I don't miss him at all. He really was a big joke, if not a violent one. Alright, in my third part of the record collector scum stuff, I'm going to talk about stores, conventions, and "scum incarnate"...those wonderful people who have every item on your want list, but are going to try to rip you off. Hee hee. Wonderful stuff. First of all, stores. In the major cities, there is usually a few stores that sell old, rare records. There are extremely few which specialize exclusively in old punk/hc (Epicenter is about the only one that comes to mind off-hand: swell store, by the way, support it, it is a very worthy cause, and a great place) but a lot of stores do have old records and such floating around. Sometimes they will know what something is worth, and will have a Cough/Cool or something behind the counter, with a $500 price tag on the front. Other times, they have no idea, and some very valuable gems are stuck in the bargin bins, which happen to be all over the store, and there's thousands of them. If you have the time and patience, go up to the guy who owns the store and ask him if you can go through all the cabinets and boxes and the storeroom looking for stuff, because most likely the store racks that are well-organized and stuff are the ones full of records actually worth some cash, and they know it. It can be very frustrating spending four hours looking through old mod records and 8,000,000 Rolling Stones bootlegs (yes, there might just be 8,000,000 of these!) but believe me, often times it pays off. In all that stuff there is always SOMETHING, unless another collector has come in and picked it clean, and even they will miss things. I have found some real valuable things in these bins, such as a Misfits red vinyl Bullet (for you fiends!) and my prize, the infamous Rejects EP in mint condition. When I brought that up to the counter, paid $5 for it, and put it on my trade list the next week and got an offer of $350 from someone, it made all those hours of searching worthwhile. I eventually auctioned it for $400 and bought a TV. But that's not the point. The point is, you can find tons of stuff in these piles of bargain bins...most of the time the owner will just say go ahead, and stick you in the corner of the store, mumbling about how crazy you are. Many records stores have this stuff. I'm not saying you'll get a trade-in for a TV, but I know many many people who have gotten some rare item just through sheer perserverance. Many record stores you wouldn't think have this stuff actually do. Check used bins! I got a VG Tele/Tone "Big Hits of the Midwest Vol.III" 2xLP for $6 yesterday. The one thing about used bins though is you won't ever find M stuff, and rarely NM...it's been sitting there a while. It's not nescessarily beat-up, it's just not golden. Now, in terms of buying something they already know how valuable it is...it depends on how much you want it. Stores really aren't big on trading. They will take your records for cash on a trade-in value, but when they do this they will lowball you, they will NEVER pay you what it's worth. Why? Because they need to sell it for more to make a profit, but they can't oversell it too high or they won't make any money. Usually it's a bad idea to get rid of your records this way, but if you know you're being ripped off and do it anyway, at least you know you're being ripped, right? I've had to grudingly do this sometimes...it's just a part of collecting. Also, this may seem unimportant, but it is...make absolutely sure you get to CHECK THE RECORD BEFORE YOU BUY! The biggest horror story is a friend of mine who bought a Crime EP to get home, take it out the sleeve with backboard it was in (so you couldn't see the back) and find out the sleeve was ripped down the middle and the record looked fine except for a massive scratch on the B-side, making his $150 purchase worth about $6.50. If they won't let you check, there are two options: 1) Don't buy. 2) Make a fuss. This is my thing. I start yelling "You won't let me check? Are you trying to sell my defective goods!" Everyone in the store hears, the manager freaks out, and goes "Okay, shut up, I'll show it to you! See, it's in good shape!" Most of the time, they will show you. There's no reason for them not to...if they hold it, and they are careful with it, if anything happens they can only blame themselves. It's not that hard to show off a record. Sometimes they put them in cases where the record itself is out of the sleeve so you can look at both...this is rare, but it's really helpful. Epicenter's a good place, they usually don't rip you off, because they're non-profit, and they show you the stuff, and they have a lot of the stuff, and can tell you about. There was a place in the UK like this a few years back, but I forget the name. Blacklist! was a good place, but they're bankrupt. See what happens when you don't support DIY stuff? You lose it! Then it sucks! Secondly, record conventions. Actually, looking through Tammy's stuff and what I'm about to say about trading, this is pretty well covered. Record conventions are pretty much a trading emporium with some store aspects. Just bid well! That brings us to... Auctions/trading with scum. Now, let's say you've heard about all these rare Misfits boots. You're a huge Misfits fan. Or whatever else you want. Tons of old stuff. You're just getting into collecting, so you bring your checkbook, whatever rare records you've scrounged up, and you head off to a record swap. You toss together a want list in the car, and get out your boxes of stuff, a good pen, and go into the meet. As you're walking down the rows, a table catches your eye. Somebody has a lot of the stuff you're looking for. He's got that Evilive 7" 3-pack (okay, so it's a bit far-fetched...I haven't seen this at a convention yet), and he's got a Cult Heroes 45, and the Village Pistols EP, and Ed Nasty with the picture sleeve, and you're saying, "Oh wow!" and just totally freaking out. You notice he doesn't have a want list, and there's no pricetags on the stuff? Hmm...maybe he just forgot! You ask the fat, obviously lonely man, "What do you want for this stuff?" The man then tosses you the dreaded question, the one that hamstrings just about every newcomer. "What'll you offer?" This is the make or break. This is really a simple enough question, what are you going to give the guy to get him to part with his beloved records? Unfortunately for you, this guy knows exactly what he's doing. He's been doing this for a long time. He has the perfect poker face. He knows all the little tricks to sucker you in. He knows exactly how to lay down the "This is what you're offering me!? You want my mint condition pink vinyl Legacy of Brutality and all you're offering is $2,500?" perfectly. Maybe you're offering him twice what the thing is worth. Maybe you're offering him 5x what it's worth! Doesn't matter, you'll fall for this, real easy. Maybe you like the music a lot more than he does. You probably deserve the record. But...this guy is in no rush to sell to anyone (unless you notice a large Italian man behind him, nudging him to make quick sells...this is known as a "lucky break for you, bad break for his back") and he's not going to sell unless he gets the better end of the stick. I try to be a fair trader...it's very hard not to take advantage of people, and 95% of the people doing this WILL rip you off and not give it a second thought (by the way, if you ever pay $2,500 for any record, I personally think you deserve to flush all your money down a toilet [and anyone who buys Bobby Steele's black vinyl Halloween 7" for $2,000 is a moron, sorry]...no record is worth that cash...especially not that stupid Paul McCartney Rhino LP that someone just paid $40,000 for...but back to the point) so you absolutely have to know what to do in this situation. I would try to get some sort of an offer nailed down. Try to get a ballpark of what this guy is going to need to part with it. Maybe he noticed your Year of the Rat LP, and figures that'll take $30 off the price of the Misfits/Ramones split. Who knows? Get a ballpark figure, but don't buy anything yet. Tell the guy you want to go get lunch or something, you'll ponder the offer over a hot dog (or, for you vegans, a nice big salad) and you'll come back later. Now, go around the swap. Talk to people. Drop hints, tell people you have the same record you wanted from the other guy, see what they offer. Try to get a ballpark figure of what other people think it's worth. Maybe someone else has one available...maybe they'll trade/sell it for less. Talk to people. Maybe that issue of Record Collector has the record on spotlight, maybe an old MRR talks about it in "Scum Pit". It's not hard to dig up info in a room full of record collectors who know tons of useless trivia, trust me on that. Once you've figured out what it's really worth, go back to the guy, make a decent offer, don't get ripped, unless you absolutely need to have it. And don't just let the first offer stand. Do a little Monty Python haggling (except in California, I went to a swap there and every time I tried to haggle, the record got taken back) and bring the price down. Blah blah. That's some basic stuff, I will talk a lot more about trading next post, and I will also run down some record cash values and such. See ya then. And if anyone has KBD77 out there in fiend-world, gimme an e-mail, I'll buy it off you for $30, which is more than fair. I'm sick of talking to German guys and finding a translator only to find out they just traded theirs. Alrighty, toodles evil children. GRAMPS ------------------------------ From: "PSYCO78"