Misfits Bible, Number 111 Thursday, October 12th 1995 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #110 Re: HELLFIRE MB 111 my two cents Vlad's concerns Peter Steele Online / Engines Of Aggression Trivia Contest Misfits in Canada Re: Misfits Bible, #110 110 Re: Misfits Bible, #106 Joshua Miller Re: Misfits Bible, #110 Re: Misfits Bible, #110 Braineaters video glenn is in suburbia! loose ends Satanika Artwork unreleased Danzig songs Gomez LIVE 79! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:48:15 -0600 (CST) From: WE who cannot be named Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #110 * * * BEWARE SHIRTS ARE NOW AVAILABLE $17.50 US * * * He got 12 in yesterday, we bought 2 there are 7 others left. If your interested let us know soon, cuz they'll be gone. ALL prices are US funds S+H is not included. S'LATE WE ------------------------------ From: DelJ@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:45:33 -0400 Subject: Re: HELLFIRE In any of ya'll are playing to attend the Type O Negative show at the Roseland in NYC, DONT' MISS THE ELECTRIC HELLFIRE CLUB!!! I saw the Hellfire Club about four months ago and thought they absolutely ruled!!! Very goth/Very industrial/ PURE EVIL! Cya Del ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:05:18 +0300 From: Gary LaRue Subject: MB 111 Fiends, Fiends, rotting people, cut-up men, lend me your ears. I come to dig up Caesar, not to bury him. I think that the Misfits are the shit whether they have Glenn or not. So shut up or I'll hack off your head and put it on my wall. The Evil Eye ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:26:20 -0500 From: Andrew Share Subject: my two cents I know that this is the Misfits bible so I will start off with something about them. I got the Caroline Comp and the song sounds really good. the Address is 114 West 26th street, NY, NY. 10001. I think that it was $2. now here is the real reason I wrote: For all you Boston Fiends: Marilyn Manson is playing at Mama kins on Halloween! Andrew Share st930419@pip.cc.brandeis.edu &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Brown eggs & & Are local Eggs & & And local eggs & & Are Fresh! & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:26:53 -0400 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Vlad's concerns Hello - Vlad Tempes wrote a damn good letter in issue #110 concerning the decline in interesting topics and posts on the MIsfits Bible. I too remember when there used to be TONS of things to contribute and respond to - but now all that's left is to bitch about Static Age and how Glenn is or isn't an asshole... I remember how some of us used to have to scroll down the Bible with a piece of paper and a pen, copying down all the things we wanted to respond to... And when it started to drag, we'd come up with new topics related to the Misfits or Danzig or just music in general. I thought it was so great when everybody responded to my "sellout" post and how we all exchanged a lot of interesting views without slagging each other. Then there was "first Misfits experiences," etc. But now I just sit here, staring at the screen, trying to come up with something new to throw out there, and I can't think of anything that hasn't been beaten to death already. A couple issues ago, I was reduced to posting a sighting just for the sake of contributing SOMETHING!! Damn, I hate sightings... I don't know what else to say. All the "old schoolers" have pretty much gone into non-existence: maybe that has a lot to do with this void. Yeah - who remembers when the Crimson Ghost used to keep us up on what Jerry and Doyle were up to? And EVB with her never-ending (but well worth the read) posts about Glenn's exploits...I sure as hell miss those. Then there was Bloodboy and C. Vomit from Virginia Tech (and Child in Heat/NINcompoop), Cternes, Don, etc. Damn - if you people are still out there, let's hear it because Vlad's right - we are slumping and in dire need of some cool topics and/or news. I especially would like EVB to post what she knows about the remnants of Danzig because if anyone knows FOR SURE, it's her. Take Care, Brent P.S. Maybe if some people would check out Mark's page, they would be inspired. The address is of course at the bottom of the Bible. Also check out the Crimson Ghost's page at http://www.planetnet.CrimsonGhost ------------------------------ From: Cyberpig2@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:42:29 -0400 Subject: Peter Steele Online / Engines Of Aggression I met Peter Steele online once in a chat room where he called Glenn an "asshole and a half" and said all he cared about was money, thought it was pretty damn funny...also...if anyone has any Engines Of Aggression stuff such as music videos, cd's, promos, etc..., please e-mail me....i know that they opened up for Danzig last Halloween so i thought some of you might like em'....they are one of glenn's fave bands.... -Cyberpig2@aol.com (the mega pimp) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:59:46 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Trivia Contest This is the contest I decided not to include the wave file hints because not all of you are as lucky as I am to have 28.8 ppp access. Good luck!!!!! 1) Member's of which two (2) great punk bands made up "The Lords of the New Church" _______________________________________________________________ 2) "Ever Fallen in Love?" originally recorded by the Buzzcocks was covered in 1987 by what band? HINT: it's on the soundtrack of the Jonathan Demme film "Something Wild" _______________________________________________________________ 3) NY Punk time - Robert Gordon was lead vocal for what pioneering CBGB regular band? HINT: This is pre-punk explosion _______________________________________________________________ 4) "Johnny Hit and Run Pauline" was a hit for what L.A. band? _______________________________________________________________ 5) "Flesh ancient monster design....." are some lyrics from what song? _______________________________________________________________ 6) The guitar lead in "Hurdy Gurdy Man" by Donovan was played by? _______________________________________________________________ 7) Missing Persons was led by the Husband & Wife team of? _______________________________________________________________ 8) CBGB & OMFUG is an acronym for what? _______________________________________________________________ 9) Franche Coma's Real name is? _______________________________________________________________ 10) Richard Hell played bass with what band? _______________________________________________________________ 11) Crossroads by Cream (Eric Clapton) is credited to Robert Johnson the lyrics are from two (2) of Johnson songs. Name them? _______________________________________________________________ 12) What band originally recorded "Kick out the Jams"? _______________________________________________________________ 13) What brand of guitar do Jerry & Doyle play today? _______________________________________________________________ 14) The album cover for "The Velvet Underground w/ Nico" was done by what artist? _______________________________________________________________ 15) Who is the person now known as Buster Poindexter? and what band did he make his name with? HINT: The answer isn't "The Banshees of Blue" _______________________________________________________________ Well folks that's it for now. Remember first prize is the Kryst CD and second prize is the cassette. I think I made this pretty easy. DEADLINE FOR YOUR ANSWERS IS OCTOBER 25 ---- NO EXCEPTIONS if by chance there are multiple winners, I will email questions to them and by process of elimination pick the winners. Rules are as follows - There are no fucking rules all this info can be found on the net so good luck. Email your answers to me I think the questions are easy - let's see what you think maybe I can do this more often. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.....Mother Fucker"- The Crimson Ghost ---- crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:09:07 -0400 From: Lamchops Subject: Misfits in Canada Hello to all the Misfits fans out there. I have been a fan since 1991, I know that may not be a long time but hey.... Anyway some of my friends have said that the Misfits albums have never been released here in Canada. All the versions we get here are American Imports and are quite pricy, therefore I only have two , legacy and walk among us. Anyway this second collection album that is due out next month, will it be released in Canada as a domestic. I,m sorry but I can't afford to spend 40 dollars on another cd. Maybe there is a rep from Caroline who will read this and respond. P.s. My favourite Misfits tunes are Mommy, can I go out and kill tonite? Some kinda Hate 20 eyes I turned into a martian Please remember I have not heard last caress or attitude, etc. ...a special thank you to the guy who wrote the homepage and included the lyrics, it was great. It is the best homepage i have seen devoted to a band. I grew up in Newfoundland , so to that guy in Nova Scotia, I know what it's like. I have never seen ANY Misfits album there. Pity. Dear and dear is their poisoned note, the little snakes of silver throat, in mossy skulls that nest & lie, forever singing Die! Oh Die! The Phantom Wooer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Flemming Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #110 > From: tbunt@vt.edu (Thomas Bunt) > Subject: What band is next to break up? > I just learned this week that KYUSS, who toured with Danzig, has broken up. > It just seems like no band is sacred anymore. I understand their reasons, > but they both were really tight bands, atleast music wise. Well shit...there goes another good band...I sure as hell hope Clutch hangs together for a while longer. > From: Joshua Miller > Subject: in slavery! > > would someone please tell me how to get out of here?!?!?! > -shackled to this list. Click your heals together three times...and say there's no place like home. ;) > From: RDYR69C@prodigy.com (GLENN H DANZIG) > Subject: Misfits Bible, #109 > > Ok, I was gonna answer the Cwn Anwnn question from a few bibles back > cause I thought I was a real hot shot and knew about it, but somebody > showed my up with a physical description of the cwn anwnn, or hell > hounds, pronounced (COON ANOON). Mebbe since I haven't written the > bible in a while, I'll just add this: The Morrigu comes from another > celtic mythological figure, Morigaan, the goddess of the battlefield. > Basically, as i can tell it, Black Aria is a great big symphony about > an epic battle between good and evil, good loses, and the world goes > BOOM!!!!!!! (It's always been a personal theory of mine that it > really was about the biblical Satan's uprising, defeat, and outcast... > oh well...) Well Bravo on the celtic stuff...but you missed the planly obvious. Go read Milton's _Paradise Lost_...that should put an end to speculation about the story behind Black Aria. /| __ ___ ___ __ |\ ******************************| -- -^ \_/ ^- -- |****************** * morrigu@uclink.berkeley.edu \ ---_ _--- / * * & ----^\| _>_<_ |/^---- Robert Flemming * * rflemmin@ced.berkeley.edu / --- / \ --- \ * ************************************\__/| -^- |\__/************************ \ MMM / ------------------------------ From: Fiend Subject: 110 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:52:31 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jesse Skam > > (it's a club) in New Haven, and depending on where you live, you can check > out Main St. Records in Northampton, MA. They have a cool basement that's > all vinyl, and a collector's section that occasionally gets Misfits shit > (not to mention any other collectable punk shit). Wow, I've been to Main St. Records many times. Haven't ever seen any Misfits stuff up there though. There's a good record store somewhere in the middle of Connecticut called Trash. They've got some cool stuff. > From: dwight@usa.pipeline.com (Dwight Toavs) > > How can I get tickets for the Misfits Holloween show? I live in Virginia > and I don't want to go to New York just to get tickets. I imagine that if the show happens, tickets will be available at the door. Either that or I'll have some more info later on this month. I'm in VA too, and it sounds like a lot of us are.... > From: RDYR69C@prodigy.com (GLENN H DANZIG) > > bible in a while, I'll just add this: The Morrigu comes from another > celtic mythological figure, Morigaan, the goddess of the battlefield. > Basically, as i can tell it, Black Aria is a great big symphony about > an epic battle between good and evil, good loses, and the world goes > BOOM!!!!!!! (It's always been a personal theory of mine that it Well, sort of. Tracks 1-6 are based on Milton's Paradise Lost and the other 3 aren't. That's why the LP has 6 songs on Side 1 and 3 on Side 2. > From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu > > again i ask, is anyone from this list from connecticut?-if so > can you tell me where i can find a "record" store:i.e.-one that sells > vinyl..... Hey, read above. Trash is a good record store and it's somewhere in Connecticut near the home of Will Koshuta. Will, please help us out. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 11:33:24 EDT From: "\\A corpse" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #106 I have a question on the suprise live show (on Halloween), when I talked to Jerry back in June he told me that they were trying to hook up a limelight gig, since you didn't need to have to pay for the PA system (a big consideration in where you play a show). Yet my freind Mark who was doing an internship at Roadrunner records said that Type O Negative is booked for Halloween at the Limelight. So then where's the show gonna be? If it is at the limelight I doubt I could really afford the tickets. To get in that night you pay a thirty dollar cover fee (drinks not included) That is really pressing my budget. Also the amount of posers and wannabe preppy types in the limelight is astounding since its 'the place' to be. One more thing there was a promo poster put out for TFM I saw it at curmudgeon records in Edison N.J. a week later the poster was off the front window. It was the old crimson ghost design and the old spray can Misfits logo on the top left corner and on the bottom I think it said 'The Misfits return from the grave, Teenagers from Mars out Sept 19th' I talked to the owner and he said that he was keeping all the posters for himself. Anyway Mark, good job on the web site, it looks a lot better and I loved all the gifs of the singles. - Ryan Stephens ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:58:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kurt D. Iobst" Subject: Joshua Miller I thought you were a misfits fan, why do you want to leave the list? -chicken ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:07:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #110 Lee Ving fronting the Misfits, huh? I don't know if ANYONE would believe that one. The last time I saw him he was on some sit-com and looked about 100 years old. Like a grey-haired Grizzly Adams ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kurt D. Iobst" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #110 True, the misfits aren't going to be quite as good as the original for several reasons. It will be a great chance for those of us who are as big of fans as anyone else, who missed them the first time they were around too see what it might have been like, and to relive some fucking incredible music. -chicken ------------------------------ From: Dredska@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:02:12 -0400 Subject: Braineaters video Sorry if this has been discussed in a previous bible, but I have yet to get around to reading all of the past bibles. Does anyone remember seeing a gory black and white video for Braineaters? The vid featured the whole gang seated around a table in a creepy house. A chef came out from the kitchen bearing grub and everyone chowed down on brains ect. When I saw this it was around '84 or 85 I think. I must have been only about 10 or 11 and it freaked me into becoming a misfits fan. Anyway, is this the only promo vid they did or was it from a larger production? The video I saw was only a minute or so long and looked as if it was badly edited, as if it was cut out of a longer product. Any info or perhaps a trade would be appreciated. I have some live Samhain, various punk & 'core boots and lots of crispy Phish (why do I feel at least one flame from a mall punk is coming my way for that last one, sigh) to trade. piece, Mike <*{{{{{>< ------------------------------ From: zoinks@cybergate.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:45:55 GMT Subject: glenn is in suburbia! hello fellow fiends:to the fiend who mentioned there's a girl wearing a misfits shirt in the movie suburbia....did you know glenn is also in the film?,he's in the crowd .. they show him for a few seconds smiling "yes smiling" funny huh?,i've had that movie for years so i know it's him and just wanted to let you fiends know about that "for more misfits knowledge". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:18:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Jerome Dempz Subject: loose ends I'm not sure which issue of Guitar the Bobby letter was in. I know they had an issue (which I might missed) with an article on "how to play punk guitar" where they transcribed some Misfits songs and then he wrote in to correct them. Goatboy- yep, I'm still here, but my mail to you got bounced. what's your new address? Reach me at adempz@umich.edu. Dempz "I'm as straight as the line that you sniff up your nose I'm as hard as the booze that you swill down your throat I'm as bad as that shit that you breath down your lungs and I'll fuck you up as fast as that pill on your tongue Straight Edge Revenge This time you've pushed me too far!" hee hee ------------------------------ From: Momo138@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:47:28 -0400 Subject: Satanika Artwork Hello everyone In Bible #110 I stated that I had original artwork from Satanika #1. Some of you might have tried to E-mail me, but my account was invalid. Well the problem has been corrected and you can E-mail me now. "And I know I'm saying Goodbye And I know that I'm going down to die" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:05:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: unreleased Danzig songs Hi Mark, thanks for mailing me the stuff; I'm glad it worked. As I said erlier, I've been reading your back issues (still have to read from about #65-85 though) and there is some stuff I'd like to address/add my 2 cents (hopefully w/out repeating a lot of what's been said already; I know many readers are sick of hearing the same info. and arguments all the time) Anyway, I'm rambling (a warning--I may tend to write long posts) The unreleased Danzig songs are: 1. Angel(s) of the Seventh Dawn (you have this in your section already) (recorded for Lucifuge) 2. The Other Side (also for Lucifuge) 3. Livin' Doll (for D III) 4. White Devil Rise (everyone knows this one by now...on Danzig V?) 5. Crucifixion Destruction (for 4p) My friend Craig also came across some others around the time D III came out, but he can only remember something like "Black Rose" (or maybe "Black Kiss" after Howard Chaykin's comic, which Glenn likes). Judging by some of your previous posts Mark,I get the impression that, like me, you prefer the 7" version of NOTLD. I am praying that they will include this on the box set, since the only copy I have is from a duplicate bootleg. (a much better choice for the 14th LP than, say, "rat fink") There's more I want to say, but I've taken up enough space for one post already (sorry to those of you hate Danzig...wait a minute...never thought I'd say that...!) !!! before I forget...can I still get the Bible video/tape/whatever you guys made last year? And does anyone know the 2nd verse of "Kiss of Steel" (it was omitted, like the last verse of NOTLD on WAU) BTW, the line in "Die, die..." is DEFINITELY "don't cry to me oh baby" (NOT "don't try to be a baby"; in some parts, it becomes "...come cryin' to me oh baby, your future...") This is what I always understood as the lyric, but it is particularly clear on the live SAMHAIN bootleg cd ("THE MISFITS - SAM HAIN [sic] LIVE '85 (Secret Records)). More crap later (gotta go to class now). "I am a walking, screaming hell..." ------------------------------ From: DarkLo730@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:10:19 -0400 Subject: Gomez Gomez is punk band who I think is Ramonesish. The logo is complete parady of the Danzig one. Gomez are supposed to be good. mike ------------------------------ From: Stewart Gallacher <9243471g@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Subject: LIVE 79! Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:23:29 +0100 (BST) Does anyone out there have a copy of the Misfits "Live 79! the Perfect Crime" 7" E.P. in good condition which they would be willing to sell for around $20? I'd also be willing to send out tapes of rare Misfits/Samhain/Danzig stuff if that would be preferable. Also, anyone interesting in trading tapes of stuff please contact me as I have a pretty good collection but am always on the look out for more stuff. -Stewart Gallacher ( 9243471g@udcf.gla.ac.uk ) P.S. If anyone out there is having trouble getting live/demos/etc. by Misfits/Samhain/Danzig let me know and I'll send out tapes on a non-profit making basis- though of course I would prefer to trade. Thanks. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 112 Tuesday, October 17th 1995 Today's Topics: bible's slump RE: Misfits Bible, #111 Unreleased Danzig? Peter Steele contest Trash...American Style Re: Misfits Bible, #111 Re: unreleased Danzig songs bible 110 live tapes for sale$$$ That Damn Damned Fan Again tunes'n'shit NEW MISFITS COVER BAND BEING FORMED First Danzig show Hello Boring shit/Sighting/Boot... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:26:03 +0600 Subject: bible's slump A slump in this mailing list? hmmm, I didn't notice... then again i haven't been reading this too much lately... :) I guess there's only so much you can say on one band, eh? maybe after a comeback things'll start up again. GREG PETRE "I'll kill you with my words, 'cause I hate everyone!" -Apocalypse Hoboken ------------------------------ From: JACKSON017@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #111 Trash is a store in Danbury CT. Its exit 4 off of I-84, danbury. You can find some good vinyl there and other strange stuff. any other questions just e-mail me. ------------------------------ From: "Lowe, Thomas B." Subject: Unreleased Danzig? Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 20:43:00 PDT The unreleased Danzig songs are: 1. Angel(s) of the Seventh Dawn (you have this in your section already) (recorded for Lucifuge) 2. The Other Side (also for Lucifuge) 3. Livin' Doll (for D III) 4. White Devil Rise (everyone knows this one by now...on Danzig V?) 5. Crucifixion Destruction (for 4p) My question is, have these songs ever been heard, like on a bootleg or anything? Unholy ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:06:43 -0400 Subject: Peter Steele What's all this with Peter Steele bad mouthing Danzig? If either of them has anything real to say, anything with meaning, anything w/ intelligence, in their music, it's Glenn. Type O Negative is good but it's all just so silly. Like he's laughing at himself and the whole dark image he's trying to portray. He tries way too hard to be outrageous and shocking. After a while it rubs you like steel wool. Whenever I've heard Glenn talk about Type O, he had nothing but compliments. So Steele is just being ungrateful, which doesn't seem out of character. It's very low brow of him to do that, especially to someone in a chat room and not right to Glenn's face. Glenn, his "little twin" my ass. When it comes to talent, Glenn's a titan in comparison. That's how I feel about all that ... - BILE666. P.S. -- To the guy two Bibles back who said that Jerry Only was nothing to the Misfits and that Glenn was the backbone of the band, you'll never get me to swallow that load. I'm not going to debate who was the creativity behind the Misfits (personally I think it was Glenn), but there never would've been a Misfits without Jerry Only. To me, Jerry represented all that the Misfits were really all about. Aggression, speed, rage, power, fury. Was he the world's most skilled bassist? No. But does it really matter? When you see the video where he destroys his bass before the first song's even done, don't tell me that that passion and power isn't what the Misfits was really all about in the first place ... ------------------------------ From: WEIBEL@chemistry.chem.utah.edu Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:52:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: contest Crimson Ghost, I would much like to see the answers to your contest. Some I know, but others have me perplexed. Good Questions. Beers. Mike. ------------------------------ From: WEIBEL@chemistry.chem.utah.edu Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:07:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Trash...American Style Trash is on Mill Plain Road in Danbury, CT. If you get off I84 at exit 2, (exit 2B I think) and take a right onto Mill Plain Road, it will be about 2 miles down on the right in a little strip mall. If you see the Ethan Allen Inn on your right, you have gone too far. It used to be run by a couple...she was a punk and he was a hippy (Malcolm... I forget her name). I used to shop there when they were in Brookfield (like 1985 or 1986). They have a really good selection, but are WAY expensive. I bought a Vatican Commandoes 7" that I couldn't find ANYWHERE, but they charged me $7...If you are willing to pay, then they are the place to go. They also don't take plastic...cash only. (I always stop in when I am in CT. They have all kinds of hard to find punk) Also, I wondered what scene in Suburbia Glen is in. I have seen the movie about 10 times but never noticed him. Beers. Mike. ------------------------------ From: Fiend Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #111 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:40:50 -0400 (EDT) > From: Dredska@aol.com > > around to reading all of the past bibles. Does anyone remember seeing a gory > black and white video for Braineaters? The vid featured the whole gang seated > ... > 10 or 11 and it freaked me into becoming a misfits fan. Anyway, is this the > only promo vid they did or was it from a larger production? The video I saw > was only a minute or so long and looked as if it was badly edited, as if it We actually just discussed this again about 2 or 3 issues again. Indeed this is the only promotional video they did. They also filmed part of a Skulls video that night but it was never finished and remains unreleased. It's in the discography of course. > From: zoinks@cybergate.com > > in the movie suburbia....did you know glenn is also in the film?,he's in > the crowd .. Really? And in other news, we're up over 400 fiends on this mailing list... mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:57:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: Re: unreleased Danzig songs whoahhh---hold up there Mark. No, I'm no EVB, I just got those titles from magazines. "The Other Side" was from Rip (you have it in the Kerrang! article; the text and author is exactly the same, so I guess the same publisher does both. (I can't remeber the title or date of the Rip issue, but it was shortly before Lucifuge came out; probably around the same time it was in Kerrang.) "Livin' Doll" was in, I think, Hit Parader, or maybe Faces. I have the article at home, so I'll check the date if it's on the bottom of the page (I just clip whatever has Glenn and chuck all the Bon Jovi/Skid Row/anyhting else). That article is kind of interesting, as comments are given by both Glenn and John, saying how they work "like a tag team" in the studio (I guess things change...) for "Her Black Wings." (They also mention playing "Heart of the Devil" live for the "Low Way Back from Hell Tour" (I think "Pain in the World" might be a better tour name). Also, "Bodies" is mentioned as being "tentatively titled." I read once where Glenn said the song titles are "apt to change" after they're recorded. What else could he call them? He uses almost every song-title in the songs several times. (I wonder if "...Summer" or "It's Coming Down" ever had dif. titles. Anyway I'm taking up a lot of space again,so I'll get to the next bit... "Crucifixion Destruction" was mentioned in Guitar World or something, in "The Passion of Christ" interview. "Angels of the Seventh Dawn" has also been mentioned often, and is of course the fan club name. (Has anyone else got anything other than a little t-shirt order form in the last two years?) [I just noticed I spelled "Long" as "Low" up above...no I'm not a moron] Did I forget any other unreleased songs...? nah...that's all I know for now...except Glenn mentioned in Meta Edge that he thinks they recorded 17 for 4p...minus "Crucifixion" and "White Devil" that leaves 2 more unknown. BTW, in Detroit I met Eerie and Glenn, and asked Eerie if they were gonna release these ever. I named all of them in the few seconds I had only to get a "uh...I dunno." Maybe now that they're gone, Glenn will release them later and dub his own bassand drums over them..and then the originals can get picked up by Caroline...and then be set for a release date..and then get cancelled..and then get postponed until Feb. 1996....wait a minute, I'm talking about some other Glenn Danzig band, aren't I? I guess I should have asked Glenn that question instead...I asked if he had any Lucifuge inverted cross necklaces he'd sell me. (He seemed to like the Iron Cross I was wearing w/the Danzig skull pin mounted on top, like the one he wore for the Thrall tour." Anyway, I once again apologoze for the length...Mark don't worry about mailing me before the Bible goes out...your page and mIsfits Book have done me too much good for me to ever complain. (But tell me seriously if you want shorter posts...or just keep your finger on the space bar when you see one of my messages.) Before I go, EVB, can you find out any more unreleased songs...maybe bug Glenn to put 'em out on singles or e.p.'s?? next time you see him? "...a thing of torture to behold..." ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:11:57 EDT Subject: bible 110 attention everyone, thanks for the info on vinyl stores around connecticut, and the "UNDEAD" VERBAL ABUSE-7" signed by bobby steele, is sold..sorry.. TED DOUGHERTY-EMAIL ME, ITS ADAM, MIKE RUMMELS FRIEND FROM NJ.... ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 14:14:14 EDT Subject: live tapes for sale$$$ there seems to be a problem with bootleggers selling shit for way tooo much.I have a little bit of live stuff that i am willing make tapes of at a very cheap price. i will make them on the highest quality maxell tapes. all of the times of the sets are approximate... first off, there is an up front charge of $2.50 (covering tape cost + postage), i will accept any form of payment, cash, check, m.o..... they will all be 90 minute tapes, therefore, i can only fill up about 90 minutes of music on each tape. heres what i have, the set date, location, # of songs, and time... live sets ranging in 1-5 songs, i will ask for $.25 per set. all other sets (6-21 songs) i will ask for $.50 per set. when ordering, please be specific so i can get your orders out quick!!\ i will definitely trade for any vinyl or video of mis/sam/dan/unded.. if there are any questions, please feel free to email me for info... live misfits 12/25/81 passaic, nj 13 songs 25 minutes 04/27/83 the michigan union 11 songs 20 minutes 11/17/81 the ritz, nyc 8 songs 15 minutes 02/28/82 9:30 club, dc 18 songs 30 minutes 04/08/83 punx #4, la 21 songs 35 minutes 08/xx/79 bethlehem, pa 3 songs 7 minutes 09/12/81 detroit,mich 7 songs 15 minutes 04/17/82 al's bar, la 6 songs 15 minutes Live Danzig 6/23/91 hamburg,germany 2 songs 7 minutes 8/12/89 the ritz, nyc 2 songs 7 minutes Live Samhain 10/xx/85 cincinnati, ohio 1 song 3 minutes 04/xx/86 Chicago, Illinois 1 song 3 minutes xx/xx/xx ???? 5 songs 15 minutes so again ill explain the cost. the initial cost of each order is $2,50 per tape. then you add on the corresponding money for which sets you want, sets that are 1-5 songs, cost $.25 each, and sets that are 6-21 songs cost $.50 each. i use 90 minute tapes so, therefore i can only fit 90 min of music on each tape so please keep the approx. times in mind. any questions, please email me, i am only doing this for us, as fiends in the fight against bootleggers, you can obviosly see that i am not doing it for the money... send to Adam Kriney Box 2977 University Of Hartford 200 Bloomfield Avenue West Hartford, Connecticut 06117-1599 or you can call me at 1-860-768-6217, please not late though.... thanxxx straight edge..a way of life... andrew dempz XXX muthafucka ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 14:16:28 EDT elvis...does anyone out there now for a fact, any direct corrolation between elvis and any mis/sam/dan song, other than the fact the glenn sings like him..i need it for a school project. please e-mail the info.. thanxxx goat ------------------------------ From: LaurieZero@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 02:44:25 -0400 Subject: That Damn Damned Fan Again Hello, This morning I heard a rumor that Dave Vanian would be singing with the Misfits on Oct. 31@ the Limelight club in NY. So of course, I just had to check it out. I managed to find out that the Misfits WILL BE appearing, but at a club called the Coney Island High, and Dave won't be with them. They will be signing autographs, DJ-ing & POSSIBLY jamming with Murphy's Law. All of this will take place on Halloween. I confirmed this myself through the clubs' booker. Just thought you might want to know..... Happy Friday the 13th, Laurie ------------------------------ From: DarkLo730@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:06:33 -0400 o know about that Bobby Steele int in my zine here is the info: I conducted it at the wetlands show with him this summer. In a race back to Grand Central I lost it! I will be conducting it again with him this saturday and I'll post the zine it's in. I'll keep you posted. Bobby Steele is putting together yet another new line up of the Undead. He fired the last one after the show with the Meatmen. mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:35:08 -0300 (ADT) From: KEITH Subject: tunes'n'shit i got to listen to the songs children in heat, and cough/cool for the first time last friday. i blew a fat load in my pants. i've listened to misfits for about four years now and a finally hearing those songs made my 95. FUCKEN 'A'. i don't know as much about misfits as id like. misfit bible is fucken a. fucken a. fucken a. fucken a. I listened to eyes 2 dispise. is there another version of cough/cool besides that one? fucken a. Beer goes good with misfits. Beer and misfits are my two best friends. later.... .....KEITH P.S. on saturday a puked up this big fucken chunk of orange shit that resembled the crimson ghost.(sighting?) misfits are gods. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:05:32 -0400 (EDT) From: In Darkness There Is No Choice Subject: NEW MISFITS COVER BAND BEING FORMED I am happy to announce the formation of a new Misfits cover band. While we are still in the very early stages, so far it looks like Ken Stif on drums, Todd Stif on bass, CyberNate Scabies (ex-Destroy) on guitar and myself (Valgamon) on vocals. We will be exclusively using the lyrics and tabs from Mark's homepage, if that's okay. Email or call for more info. -- Valgamon Food Not Bombs New Haven 800-241-7337 ext 1673# Keyprint = 89 66 DE 00 B5 20 49 0F 24 59 76 05 BA FC 45 70 - ID 8D542C89 "The government has fucked us, what a big surprise..." - Aus Rotten ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:14:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr. Bungle" Subject: First Danzig show I haven't written for quite sometime (not that I ever did), and I haven't kept up with the topics over the summer due to the cost of calling my server in Oregon, but I have read the past few issues and I must agree that the topics are pretty slack. It seems that people are just bitching at eachother all the time; it hasn't been like this since that Lucifer AOL asshole was on the list. Enough bitching. I thought it would be cool if people had any interesting stories about any Danzig, Samhain, MIsfits shows that they have been to. I saw Danzig in Sacramento on the DIII tour. It was really cool with the skull drumriser abd the purple lights coming out of the eyes. It was really close to Halloween(I think it was a few weeks before the show that was recorded on the "Thrall\Demonsweatlive" EP) and Glenn seemed to be enjoying himself, I wish that I could remember the set that they played. However, I do remember Glenn asking the crowd if thy wanted to hear any old stuff. I was hoping that through some sort of miracle he would play a Misfits song. They didn't, but they did play Halloween II. I was moved. I hope that this didn't bore anyone. Chris(t) (chrisgal@gladstone.uoregon.edu) ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:23:00 -0400 Subject: Hello Hey all, what's up? Okay, does anyone actually have these unreleased Danzig song (Angels Of the 7th Dawn, Devil's Kiss or whatever. Etc etc)? I'd love to hear them. Will they ever be released? Even in bootleg form? Samhain box set on Halloween? Damn. Talk about a lot of money to spend. New Corpse EP, Gwar concert, and now Samhain box set. On the same day! Busy Halloween. Call me crazy, but I kind of like this whole Collection 2 thing. I mean, we get a completely new song that no one's ever heard, and finally some of this stuff on legitimate release. And the other stuff will hopefully be out. The only thing I'm upset about is the Max's Xmas Show. Just to hear "Blue Christmas". But, I'll bet it's like the Metallica cover of "Run To The Hills"......6 seconds long. Anyone read the Christ/Ozzy interview? (thanks Michelle). Nothing on Danzig, and for good reason, it wasn't on Danzig. Still interesting. Speaking of Christ, in the latest Metal Blade News newsletter, it mentions that there is "Guitars That Rule The World Part 2" (I think that's the name), with a John Christ song. This will be coming out soon. I think by next year. I'll hunt for the letter. Oh well, I have to go do the college hunt some more....will it ever end? Chris ------------------------------ From: Andreas Viehoff/SYBASE Date: 17 Oct 95 10:56:36 EDT Subject: Boring shit/Sighting/Boot... Hi, Im just readin through bible #111 and its really kind of sad. I miss EVBs news and rumours. Its all just like where can one order this t-shirt, this cd.....and so on. BUT, Ive got a sighting, for those of you still interested: Few month ago i saw WHITE ZOMBIE in Cologne, they played the Bizarr Festival, one of the biggest Festivals in Germany. They had acts like Danzig, Siouxsie, Iggy Pop and other great stuff in the last few years. Well, WHITE ZOMBIE came on stage, and he wore a Samhain-shirt. Also referred to "fuckin" Danzig when announcing a song. (Dont know which.) I forgot about this, but now Ive got that show on video, so I remembered. Ive also seen KYUSS there, so I guess I can count myself lucky, now that theyve broken up, too. What about a boot, 7 inch, Vampiras children by DANZIG. As far as I remember its got Horror Biz, Mother, The Hunter and Mother of mercy on it. I havent heard of this one before. Sorry if I missed some info. It was really cheap, about 4 bucks, 7 Deutsche Mark. I was not able to check the versions with the other boots Ive got, but i will do so on the next weekend I find some time. Sorry for all that boring shit im bothering you all with, but, Its better than a bible with two mails only..... Keep them fires burning, A. P.S.: What really sucks with all this cd, that t-shirt, where-to-order-what-shit is: I dont know where to get it here in Germany. I guess Im just an envious bastard....keep on. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 113 Thursday, October 19th 1995 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #112 Danzig stories... Re: Misfits Bible, #112 The Other Side? Peter Steele Misfits Last Bible re: whatever bible just came Questions&Compliments Unreleased Danzig Misfits Model MOV. PLAYERS (QUICKTIME) for bible.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cyberpig2@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 18:33:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #112 In a message dated 95-10-17 14:21:27 EDT, you write: >What's all this with Peter Steele bad mouthing Danzig? If either of them has >anything real to say, anything with meaning, anything w/ intelligence, in >their music, it's Glenn. Type O Negative is good but it's all just so silly. > Like he's laughing at himself and the whole dark image he's trying to >portray. He tries way too hard to be outrageous and shocking. After a while >it rubs you like steel wool. Whenever I've heard Glenn talk about Type O, he >had nothing but compliments. So Steele is just being ungrateful, which >doesn't seem out of character. It's very low brow of him to do that, >especially to someone in a chat room and not right to Glenn's face. Glenn, >his "little twin" my ass. When it comes to talent, Glenn's a titan in >comparison. That's how I feel about all that ... > First off, Glenn has to be the silliest when it comes to songwriting, come on now... "Rake your soul over burning coals..." or "I'm gonna stand at the top of the world and, shout at the heavens, gonna bring you god..." This isn't silly? If you ask me both are pretty damn silly, Glenn sings about demons and Peter sings about suicide and Gothic girls. But to say he's ungrateful....for what? For getting kicked off a tour for outselling merchandise? For being better? If anyone is ungrateful it's Glenn, engrateful that anyone would wanna tour with his petty, cheap, penny pinchin ass..... and that's all i gotta say about that. -The greatest invention in the world. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:47:23 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: Danzig stories... In response to that one guy who wanted to swap Danzig stories... There was a bit of fun once in Pittsburgh (actually it was about an hour outside of town, i forget the name) on the HTGK tour.. after the show, the roadie picked up the skin of Chuck's snare, which apparently had been signed with a marker, and tossed it all the way into the crowd. I mean waaay waay into the crowd, 'cuz back on that tour Chuck was up on top of the skull. So anyway, two HUGE dudes got ahold of it at the same time, and like dogs with a bone, neither refused to let go, and they just tackled the SHIT out of each other on the floor!! Security had to break it up. I guess one of them ended up with the thing, even though it was bent up to all hell!! I heard people nearby commenting... stuff like "What a couple of dumbasses," and "Fuckit, that thing's probably worth good money!" This was one of the only two Danzig shows I ever saw. Anyone else on this list there? Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:29:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chicken Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #112 I watched suburbia six times last night, I kept fast forwarding it through crowd scenes looking for danzig. No such luck. -chicken P.S. when is glenn going to retire, in my eyes, each band, loses it's original bite, and I think Danzig now just plain blows. ------------------------------ Date: Tue Oct 17 22:01:10 1995 From: Haskin Douglas CDT Subject: The Other Side? Hey, I was just wondering about that song that was recorded for Lucifuge by the name of "The Other Side" or something like that. Anyway, was it a remake of the Doors' song "Break on Through (to the other side)"? One reason I was wondering is because the black and white band photo from Lucifuge looks VERY similar to the photo of the Doors on their "The Best Of" album. Also, has anything heard anything lately about Danzig (or at least what's left of Danzig)? Weren't they supposed to go back into the studio in August or something? And has Glenn found new guitar and bass players or what?? Anyway, I can't wait until the new Misfits albums come out. I guess it's less than a month now until Collection II is released (barring any delays). Let's hope this one actually makes it to production. Is the Static Age CD really going to be one of those "limited edition" thingamajiggers? I think that there were something like 25,000 Earth AD CDs made, so if they make 50,000 Static Age CDs, what does that mean? Am I going to have to camp out in front of the music store with a baseball bat in order to get one? Doug ------------------------------ From: "Lowe, Thomas B." Subject: Peter Steele Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 21:26:00 PDT > What's all this with Peter Steele bad mouthing Danzig? If either of > them has > anything real to say, anything with meaning, anything w/ intelligence, int > their music, it's Glenn. He tries way too hard to be outrageous and > shocking. So Steele is just being ungrateful, which doesn't seem out of > character. It's very low brow of him to do that. When it comes to talent, > Glenn's a titan in comparison. That's how I feel about all that ... > - BILE666. I just want to respond to this. I think that Glenn is great as I do Peter Steele. I don't think Glenn is anymore talented than Pete. That is just up to personal opinion. Pete is not being necessarily ungrateful either. Glenn didn't write his music nor did he take T.O.N. on tour for all that long. I saw them on tour together and Type O was better. I didn't care for Danzig on the last tour. Glenn is no titan in any sense. Peter just feels that Glenn backed out at the last minute on taking Type O on the second leg of the tour. He felt that Glenn was threatened of the competition of the two bands. I don't care if they rip on one another. In fact, I'd pay to see those two fight it out physically! That's my view..... Unholy ------------------------------ From: "Collin M. McCormick" Subject: Misfits Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 18:43:02 -0500 So there going to come out with a Collection 2. I t will be cool to have all those songs on cd, but it kind of bums me out that all of us collectors have worked so hard to get this stuff on vinyl and now some snot nosed kid can go to best buy and get it all. Anyways I only have a bootleg version of Return of the Fly and it seems to play a wee bit too fast ( no it's not a 33). Has anyone else heard that Eerie and John Christ have quit Danzig? I also heard that Glenn was going to do some techno type shit now. I have a bootleg live show taped for a cable acsess show in Dearborn Mich. it also has that Braineaters video that people are talkig about. The tape is very low qaulity but it's still cool to watch the 'fits play live (Glenn sure was puny back then). Death comes ripping wth nasty pointy teeth.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:28:51 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Bible last time said: >P.S. -- To the guy two Bibles back who said that Jerry Only was nothing to >the Misfits and that Glenn was the backbone of the band, you'll never get me >to swallow that load. I'm not going to debate who was the creativity behind >the Misfits (personally I think it was Glenn), but there never would've been >a Misfits without Jerry Only. To me, Jerry represented all that the Misfits >were really all about. Aggression, speed, rage, power, fury. Was he the >world's most skilled bassist? No. But does it really matter? When you see >the video where he destroys his bass before the first song's even done, don't >tell me that that passion and power isn't what the Misfits was really all >about in the first place ... Jesus I couldn't have said that better myself..btw: there wouldn't have been a misfits if it weren't for Jerry's family, in particular his father who is, well let's just say he's VERY generous when it comes to his kid's hobbys.. It seems that Mr. Danzig has forgotten that fact. And no, Jerry isn't a great bassist in fact I know 12 year olds that play better. but your on the mark, when Jerry plays that bass something comes over him, it's truly magical. Some Idiot Said This: > Beer goes good with misfits. Beer and misfits are my two best >friends. > >later.... .....KEITH > >P.S. on saturday a puked up this big fucken chunk of orange shit that > resembled the crimson ghost.(sighting?) misfits are gods. I realize that this wasn't a personal attack, but really Keith, do you honestly think anyone on this list gives a fuck about your bodily functions? btw: Fucken is spelled fuckIn' it's short speak for Fucking, which is exactly what your doing to your brain. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Fuck you I won't do what ya tell me........Mother Fucker ~ ~ ~ ~ ---- The Crimson Ghost ~ ~ ~ ~ http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: warren@bigdog.fred.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 23:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: re: whatever bible just came Brent (and all): Some good things to say, and I agree with you all the way. Hate to say it, but I don't look forward to the Bible like I used to. What we need is some rejuvination!! New energy!! (motivation for the day expired) Anyone have any ideas? I hate to hear people bitch about it --yeah, I know, what am I doing now?-- so maybe a spark of life osmewhere could show up. I tried a while back with the "first Misfits experience" bit and it worked reasonably well, but only for a while. Let's get moving, people. KEITH-- >Beer goes good with misfits. Beer and misfits are my two best >friends. hmmm....don't want to sound shallow and rude, but.... Loving music and going and and drinkin is all good and fine, but get some actual human friends, dude. And go for the whole package deal and get one of those LIFE things too. kindling a dying fire, VT ------------------------------ From: 102567.422@compuserve.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:38:48 -0400 Subject: Questions&Compliments Hello fellow fiends This is my first post and I would just like to say that this bible and homepage is awesome! It is by far the best thing that I have found on the internet. I would also like to thank everyone for posting all the ordering infromation because I live up in Edmonton Alberta Canada and I must say that I do have a hard time finding anything to do with the misfits besides the Compilation, Walk Among Us, Legacy of Brutality and a few shirts (but I've had to order away for them). So that is really a great help for people like me and I just thought that I'd let you guys know that. I also have two questions for everybody. I have only read the first 40 issues and from about 80 on so they might have been answered already but if they have could somebody tell me what issue they're in? 1.) Has anybody who knows latin translated the lyrics to to Halloween II? I remember in a back issue that somebody knew what "pussant inquam" (incorrect spelling) meant but didn't mention anything about the rest of the lyrics. So if you are still on the mailing list and you know the lyrics in english could you please post them? 2.) Does anybody know what the meaning of Lucifuge is? I know all the stuff that Glenn uses has some kind of meaning and I was just wondering. Once again I'm sorry if the questions have already been answered but I just haven't been able to find the time to get the rest of the back issues because as you all know there is a ton of other stuff on this homepage too! Thanks, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 16:25:16 -0400 (EDT) From: DAVID R VICKERS Subject: Unreleased Danzig About the unreleased Danzig songs, am I the only one who gets the impression that Livin' Doll was the original version of Little Whip? If you substitute these titles in the lyrics, it fits perfectly in the song. Dave V. ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 17:41:40 -0400 Subject: Misfits Model I've finally gotten it! After four months of waiting, I've finally gotten my custom Misfits model from "Attack of the Clay People!" ! It looks amazing! It's of Jerry Only, Glenn, and Doyle positioned like they were on the "Walk Among Us" album cover. They're standing in front of a bloody pile of gutts and brains. All three of them look great: long devilocks, spikes, leather vests (on Jerry and Doyle). I'm VERY psyched! In case any of you are wondering, "Attack of the Clay People!" (a one-man operation) makes custom clay models of all kinds, characters from horror movies, sci-fi, action, etc., for really reasonable prices. He's usually at the Chiller conventions so if you're interested you can catch him there ... - BIL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 17:03:49 EDT From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: MOV. PLAYERS (QUICKTIME) -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- HELLO ALL YOU FIENDS!!! YA ITS BEEN A VERY LONG TIME SINCE I POSTED, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING TO SAY.....UNTIL NOW!!! IS THERE ANY ONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO HAS WENT TO THE DANZIG PAGE AND TRIED TO DOWNLOAD A VIDEO, ONLY TO HAVE A WARNING WINDOW COME UP TELLING YOU THERE IS NO VIEWER AVAILABLE?? DOESNT IT JUST PISS YA OFF??? WELL, AFTER MONTHS OF RESEARCH, AND COUNTLESS E-MAILS, I'VE FINALLY GOT IT!!!!! YOU CAN DOWNLOAD A FREE QUICKTIME FOR WINDOWS (OR QUICKTIME FOR MAC) OFF THE WEB. YES ITS TRUE!!! THE ADDRESS IS................................ http://quicktime.apple.com ITS A SELF EXTRACTING FILE. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT ANYWHERE, JUST CLICK ON THE DOWNLOADED FILE AND IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY EXTRACT ITSELF INTO WINDOWS. THEN WAA-LAA!!! THEN GO TO THE DANZIG PAGE AND GET A DANZIG MOV. FILE AND ROCK OUT. THERE IS ALSO SLAYER SHIT, AND JOHNNY CASH. YA ALL TAKE IT EASY, I HOPE THAT THIS WAS USEFUL INFO. TIM CRENSHAW ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 14:20:22 EDT Subject: for bible.. does anyone on this list enev think that the murphy's law show is worth going to,,i mean, i could go all the way to nyc from conn. to get an autograph...are they really gonna play though?? i have got more stuff for sale.. when jerry and doyle were looking for a singer, they put ads in this paper from where i live, it has a picture of them w/ devilocks, and says that "THE MISFITS ARE LOOKING FOR ASINGER..etc..". i have a few copies left..i will sell them for $4 each..theyre cool fiend collectibles.... emailforinfo... or write/call adam kriney box 2977 university of hartford 200 bloomfield avenue west hartford, connecticut 06117-1599 1-860-768-6217 later fiends goat- ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 114 Tuesday, October 24th 1995 Today's Topics: one 13 Misc.... lucifuge three things Re: Misfits Bible, #113 baked milkshakes and fuity pebbles Re: Misfits Bible, #112 Re: Misfits Bible, #113 more vinyl for sale... Records for trade Chiller Theatre Re: Misfits Bible, #113 personality doesn't matter Lucifuge Samhain Box Set? Jerry & Doyle Pic on SWILL Stuff for Sale Newark, de the misfits bible cd 2 old ?'s renewed Danzig, John Christ John Christ solo THE handshake... Cheap Misfits cover show. READ ME ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: one 13 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 00:26:05 -0400 (EDT) An unknow fiend said: > 1.) Has anybody who knows latin translated the lyrics to > to Halloween II? I remember in a back issue that somebody It's on the page. In the lyrics section under "The Singles" it has Halloween II and the translation. > could you please post them? > 2.) Does anybody know what the meaning of Lucifuge is? To shun the light. mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 01:58:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: Misc.... RE: 4$ for a less than year old newspaper ad from the misfits.... ? What the fuck. That's rediculous, and frankly it's maybe worth the 25 cents you paid for the newspaper. RE: Swill/Spew or whatever it is... I got the cd... nice, not very much different than other versions, but much better all around in general. (Teenagers, dat is).... Also got the Zine.. they put them on the cover, but no article... twas cool that they did mention a zine to check. The guys who made that mag seem pretty cool anyway... that's it for now. oh, there's also a Misfits cover type band in the Richmond-DC area in the works. hee s ------------------------------ From: Dave Robins Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 08:53:12 0 Subject: lucifuge > Does anybody know what the meaning of Lucifuge is? > I know all the stuff that Glenn uses has some kind of meaning > and I was just wondering. Lucifuge means 'To shun the light'..... I thought the Lucifuge cover (the LP sleeve, not the CD) was a deliberate parody of the Doors first album cover. Dave. ------------------------------ From: PumroyKJ98%CS28%USAFA@cadetmail3.usafa.af.mil Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 23:57:16 MDT Subject: three things hey everybody, just wanted to bring a few things up. first, I'm sure someone else will correct Cyberpig (i think that's who it was) in that the lyrics are "I'm gonna stand at the top of the world and CHALLENGE the heavens" anyway, I strongly disagree that these are "silly" lyrics. I think this is creative in the sense that it conveys a strong sense of power. No, Danzig isn't going to the North Pole to yell at god or whatever, but haven't you at one time wanted or even felt so powerful and angry at the same time that you wanted to metaphorically "stand at the top of the world and challenge the heavens"? I just wanted to stick up for possibly my favorite danzig lyrics. I find Danzig much less silly than Type O where sometimes Type o is just plain rediculous and for me, Danzig just sometimes over does it, but NOT in Left Hand Black. second, I was just wondering how some people feel about the fact that their tax dollars go towards my being able to read/contribute to the bible as well as access pornographic pictures on the internet if I so chose to do so. I know I'm not the only person on the list who is in this situation, just wondering if anybody felt really strongly about it. last, all my email was erased and I never got around to ordering that misfits video made for the bible last spring. could that guy please email me with where to send the money to? thanks kyl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 9:24:55 EDT From: "\\A corpse" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #113 Okay fiends here is the news The Misfits Will be PLAYING at Coney Island High (A club on St. Marks Place in NYC) on Halloween. They will be jamming with a couple of bands and will be headlining. Also they will be afterwards signing autographs etc. The ticket price though is pretty steep $20 dollars per ticket (Halloween and New Years are always the most expensive nights of the year.) But according to the guy I talked to when I called Coney Island High once you pay you can go in and out of the club as many times as you like. Also there will be a costume ball. In terms of buying the tickets you have two choices either Go to Coney Island High, or Go to Bleeker Bobs in the west village, to purchase Tickets. ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: baked milkshakes and fuity pebbles Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 12:15:34 -0400 (EDT) hello everyone, i just thought i would take a moment to share some "bible friendly" info. seeing that complaints of a slump abound. i got the "i hear ya" caroline cd sampler about two weeks ago at the great price of $4.(sorry, i am not selling it) & the cover photo is great. jerry and doyle look monstrous and ominous. the song (teenagers from mars) sounds great. the bass and drums are much more audible, and you can hear crisp cymbal crashing! i compared it to a version i got from stewart gallacher (he's got great audio stuff if wanna trade) and it is way better than the original. the rest of the cd is pretty mediocre, in my opinion. is anyone here going to be at the chiller convention? i will be there on sun the 29th. we should all meet somewhere. in case we don't i will be wering a white misfits shirt with the "fiend club" logo on the front. i hope to see some bible members there. i know evb and a couple of other members will be there. look for me if u plan to attend. i am loking forward to meeting jerry and doyle. i got an interview w/them from last year on WSOU (thanks evil don!) which gave me some clues as to what i should expect. they talked about the chiller convention last year and said they were giving away skull picks and autographed posters of jrry and doyle. i am really psyeched and expect it to be pretty cool. i am really only going for them, but figure the rest of the convention should be pretty cool. anyone going to be at the type o show besides evb? i won't be there (unless i get some ticket$) but i think i may go to coney island high later after the show. anyone going to be there? i feel like i am in that dumb scene from ferris bueller "anyone, anyone?" as for meeting danzig, i met glenn and john christ after their show in nyc at the roseland with Kyuss in dec 93 (the 19th?) glenn was pretty cool. i got both their autographs and briefly spoke with each. it's funny how music videos make glenn seem six feet tall (i know we have all listened to how he isn't exactly tall, so don't tell me it's a dead topic) but when i met him i was kinda surprised at his height. i was taller than him, and i am only five foot eight. anyway, it was neat to meet them and i thought i'd share it with ya. e ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:52:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "C.G. Walters" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #112 Mr. Bungle: Halloween II is a Misfits song. It's the B-side to the Halloween 7". Has anyone out there seen the new Misfits T-shirts? I work in a record store and we just got in a new catalog that has 2 new shirts in it. One of the shirts is the Crimson Ghost dressed up as Santa Claus, with a bag of toys slung over his back (it's a bit lame - perhaps the cover of the unreleased X-mas show) The other is just the Crimson Ghost skull with the Misfits logo at the top of it, kinda overlapping it's forehead. That one is OK. They are Brockum/Giant shirts. Glenn has also re-released the graveyard feast T-shirt again. These are not in stock yet but are shown in B&W in the catalog. - Craig Walters ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 12:10:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bryan M. Gruda" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #113 To the guy who wants to sell the pictures of Jerry and Doyle gimme' a fuckin' break I mean you want to sell pictures from a newspaper for $4? If you were really a fan you would photocopy them and give them out to the real Misfits fans and stop trying to profit off us poor college students who have little or no money ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 14:00:43 EDT Subject: more vinyl for sale... hey fiends, i know that this isn't really misfits related but i have some vinyl that i am looking to trade or sell,,here goes 7"s SPAWN-"VIOLATER" 7"-GERMAN SXE BAND...$3.00 INTEGRITY/MAYDAY SPLIT 7"-WHITE VINYL...$3.00 DISTRICT 9 7"-(NYHC STUFF)-$2.00 ONION-"FALLS APART" 7"-$2.00 WEEN-FREEDOM OF 76 7"-$2.00 HARD RESISTANCE-"WANT A MAN DEAD" 7"-$2.00 CURRENR/CHINO HORDE SPLIT 7"-$2.00 DOWNCAST 7"-ON EBULITION RECORDS-$2.00 12"s WARZONE-SELF TITLED LP ON CAROLINE, 1989-$4.00 DOWNCAST-SELF TITLED LP, ON EBULLITION, $5.00 JUDAS PRIEST-"METAL WORKS 73-93", GRAY VINYL,$4.00 METALLICA-DOUBLE SIDED PICTURE DISK, WITH INTERVIEWS, $5.00 METALLICA-"JUMP IN THE FIRE" 12 SINGLE, UK PRESSING, MINT, $10.00 METALLICA-"CREEPING DEATH" 12 SINGLE, UK PRESSING, NER MINT,$7.00 METALLICA-"DAMAGED JUSTICE TOUR" 3X 12", MINT, BOOTLEG 3 LP SET,$ 25.00 METALLICA-"..LET GOD SORT EM OUT" 12" BOOT,..CONTAIN A LIVE SET AND RARE DEMOS, BUT HAS A SCRATCH ON SIDE B, WILL SELL FOR $3.00 IF ANYONE IS A PUSHEAD COLLECTOR, I HAVE AN ENVELOPE FROM THE PUSHEAD FANCLUB, WITH A NEAT PICTURE OF A WOMAN MUMMIFIED, BY PUSHEAD, IN OK CONDITION,ILL SELL IT FOR $3.00, OR TRADE FOR SOMETHING NEAT.. ALL PAYMENTS ACCEPTED.. ADAM KRINEY BOX 2977 UNIVERSITY OF HARTFORD 200 BLOOMFIELD AVENUE WEST HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT 06117-1599 OR CALL 860-768-6217 OR EMAIL FOR MORE INFO OR QUES.... BY THE WAY, IF ANYONE HERE IS INTO PSYCOLOGICAL THRILLERS, GO SEE THE MOVIE "SEVEN", IT ROCKS.... JUST FOR A POLL, IS ANYONE ELSE ON HERE, BESIDES ME AND DEMPZ, STRAIGHT EDGE? LATER GOATBOY PHYSICALLY STRONG MORALLY STRAIGHT POSITIVE YOUTH WERE THE YOUTH OF TODAY!!!! ------------------------------ From: "O'Donnell, Sean B." Subject: Records for trade Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 19:44:00 PDT Misfits related records for trade 1.Undead "Never Say Die" Rebel Records Original German Press With Promo sticker. Autographed by Bobby Steel. Mint Condition. 2. Samhain "Unholy Passion" Tan Cover (first press) sealed 3.Samhain "November Coming Fire" first press with Lyric sheet 4.Misfits "Beware" German Boot on red vinyl 5.Mourning Noise/Parasites "Live Nightmares" I'm looking for the following hardcore music items. Shirts..... Wide Awake, Schism, Underdog, Cromags, Swiz, Unity, Unit Pride and many others. Records......Wide Awake 7" Straight Ahead 12" almost any old hardcore records Also I'm looking for the Swatch X watch. If you have any of these please contact me and maybe we can set up a trade. if you don't have these items I might consider selling instead of trading. Contact: Sean O'Donnell 513 Goshen Hall West Chester University West Chester, PA 19383-8104 Phone 610-430-4033 E-Mail so242639@wcu.pa.edu ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:38:23 -0400 Subject: Chiller Theatre Since the Chiller Theatre shows are coming up fast, I just wanted to ask if any of you fiends were going to be there? I'll be there on Saturday the 27th with my new model to get some pictures of it with Jerry and Doyle. I know EVB is going to be there on Saturday, too. If you're in the area (it's going to be held in the Meadowlands Hilton in Secaucus, NJ), it's the best show of its kind. I know Jerry Only and Doyle are going to be there and EVB told me that Bobby Steele is too. It should be a really great show. In case any of you want to go, it's going to be held from the 27th through the 29th. Here are some very quick directions (don't blame me if they're sketchy in get lost though): get off at exit 16 on the NJTP; take Route 3 East to Meadowlands Parkway exit; at bottom of ramp, turn left onto Meadowlands Parkway; at first light, turn right onto Harmon Plaza; the hotel is on the left. I hope to see some of you there ... - BILE666. P.S. -- Do any of you go to Rutgers-Newark and have a green VW Beetle? I was just wondering because I always see this green Beetle covered with Misfits stickers parked around campus. Anyway, I was just wondering ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:56:03 -0400 (EDT) From: WickedKingWicker Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #113 hey there... lucifuge comes from lucifuge rofocol(sp), a title or name of an archduke of hell, i forget which since its been a while since i looked in that particular book. as for elvis danzig correlations, danzig eerie and john all cited him as being a major musical influence in their bios. the AOTSD fanclub is in my opinion a scam, coming from personal expierence, i was supposed to win a signed poster from them which i never recieved, after i inquired about it my name "mysteriously" disappeared from their fanclub roster, though there still kind enough to send me order forms ever 6 months incase i want to give them any of my money. BTW the danzig photo book they sell is a rip-off, its all the photo's members sent in put in a cheap red binder. the same photos you got for free about 2 years ago if you were in the fanclub then... if your looking for undead, signed undead stuff, i'd sugest writing to bobby steele. @ post mortem records, po box 358, new milford nj 07646, he's pretty cool and will most likely answer your letter personally... i know at least he did for me... oh yeah, i'd have to put my money on peter steele in a fight with danzig, while danzig's got the experience steele's got at least a foot longer reach:) i too saw the misfits poster in saved by the bell. it was the black and green one with the 4 coffins with jerry, doyle, glen, & the crimson ghost each in one. anyway some guy is standing in front of it for the whole scene, but you can see jerry's head peeking over his shoulder. of course it was coincidence that i saw it, since i never watched the show, hmm, i wonder when showgirls is opening? :) fallen AOTSD (*sniff*) WKW :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i will live forever, for i am truly blessed; my name will live in infamy, synonymous with death. -the electric hellfire club. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: ------------------------------ From: Goodmanbrown@mail.coretech.com Subject: personality doesn't matter Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 04:27:44 +0000 I saw Danzig and Type 0 Negative together on the last tour and I thought both bands were very good. I was a little more excited to see Type O but that was simply because I hadn't seen them before and I had seen Danzig 4 times already. I don't know who outsold who, or why this person is pissed at another. But seriously, I couldn't care less what Danzig thought or felt about Peter Steele, or vice versa. Do their opinions on such matters really make a difference. Both bands make great music and that's all that matters to me...IMHO. Actually I couldn't care less what either thinks about pretty much anything, the music is good, and that's why I am a fan of both of theirs. -Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:17:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Spectre Subject: Lucifuge In response to Scott (102blah blah blah@compuserve.com)'s question regarding Lucifuge and the origin of the term, I actually found something in an old book a few years ago. I don't remember the name of the book, but it was basically about black magic, summoning demons, etc. You can take anything the book had to say about how to actually summon demons with a grain of salt, but as far as Lucifuge goes, apparently this is the name for Satan's "right hand man," so to speak...his assistant in doing his dark work. If there is another derivation, I'd like to know what it is...I heard somewhere that Glenn said he made up the term, but I don't know who told me that, and so they might have been full of shit. If I come across the book again, I'll post a more detailed description. I don't think there was all that much in the book on Lucifuge to begin with, just a short mention... Spectre ------------------------------ From: "Lowe, Thomas B." Subject: Samhain Box Set? Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 16:38:00 PDT Hey, I remember hearing about a Samhain Box set coming out on Halloween, is there any news if this is still gonna happen?? UNHOLY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:48:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Jerry & Doyle Pic on SWILL I live in Grand Rapids, MI and there is (was) a local punk Zine called SWILL and they just released their last issue #13 and for no reason there is a recent picture of Jerry & Doyle on it. Jerry is crouched slightly with his fist sticking up and Doyle has his arm around him and he's sporting some pretty cool shades. Anyhow they are standing infront of a buncha gold records so I assume this was shot at Caroline Records possibly or some record company. They claim its just a pic they had lying around. I wonder if anyone could identify where this is from or if its like SWILL's original pic. There is no artcile on the Misfits in the magazine just an address for them and where to get Ugly Things with the Jerry Only interview. I will try to see if I can scan it and send it to the Misfits homepage. I grabbed 2 copies and i dont really wanna part with any but if you wanted one we can make a deal. The only novelty is the neat Misfits pic. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:17:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "mr. pink" my girlfriend sent me a photo of her with jerry and doyle and you can tell that jerry has maintained his devil's whip with SCOTCH TAPE. hehehe! mr. pink ------------------------------ From: Tomcee@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 17:00:46 -0400 Subject: Stuff for Sale Hi, Great Homepage. Here's a list of records that I am selling. Let me know if you are interested. Records For Sale Email Tomcee@AOL.COM Danzig 7" Price Dance of Death 2-7" with poster #171/500 $25 Fresh Flesh -live 08/12/89 the Ritz $20 Trouble -#431/500 (Wolf on cover) $20 Live in San Francisco (Orange wax) w/ Halloween II $20 Misfits 7" Bullet -Original Red wax Offer Horror Business - Original Yellow wax Offer Night of the Living Dead -Original signed by Bobby Steele Offer 3 Hits from Hell -Original Offer Halloween -Original signed by Bobby Steele Offer Evilive -Original #587 Offer Who Killed Marilyn? -Original BLACK Offer Who Killed Marilyn? -Original Purple Offer Bootlegs: Cough Cool $15 Cough Cool -clear wax $15 Bullet $15 3 Hits from Hell $15 Halloween $15 Evilive $15 All Hell Breaks Loose -green wax $15 All Hell Breaks Loose -pink wax $15 All Hell Breaks Loose -orange wax $15 Angelfuck #150/600 pink wax $20 Beware $15 Creepshow blue wax #85 & #278/500 $15 Evil-Five -blue wax $15 Evil is as Evil does -green wax $15 Famous Misfits of Filmland #271/500 swirled wax $25 4 Hits from Hell $10 HorrorBullet $15 Invasion From Mars -Walk Among Us photo on cover $25 Invasion From Mars -Red cover with song titles and cartoon drawing $25 Maxâs Kansas City -with poster $25 Perfect Crime $15 Rat Fink #225/250 Clear wax -orange cover w/ Ratfink $20 Rat Fink #14/300 Clear wax -bondage cover $25 Return of the Fly $15 Return of the Fly -picture disc $25 Static Age -Green wax skeleton on cover ,4 songs $15 Static Age Demos E.P. -8 songs $15 Vault of Horror -Misfits/Septic Death #105/500 $20 Violent World - gray marble wax $15 Walk Among the Dead -Red wax $15 Samhain 7" Return of the Misfit -blue wax $20 All Murder, All Guts, All Fun #4/100 $30 Bucket of Blood -red wax $20 On earth as it is in Hell $15 Danzig 12" Live in New York 11/88 $25 Unknown Title (Various tracks 2 demos,5 from San Francisco, 4 from New York) Picture on back from Thrasher Magazine $25 Death in its Arms- Live Bremen 11/18/1990 $25 Her Black Wings (promo) $10 Misfits 12" Live N.O.T.L.D. Cartoon Cover $25 Beware (Pirate copy) $25 Walk Among Us (Original Pink) Offer Walk Among US (Reissue) $10 Earth A.D. (1st Press) Offer WolfsBlood Offer Die, Die My Darling (Pink Lettering) $20 Die, Die My Darling (Purple Lettering) $20 Legacy of Brutality $10 Evilive (German) $30 Evilive (Caroline) $10 Demonomania $25 HateBreeders $25 Hittsville (Red Wax) $25 Hittsville $20 N.O.T.L.D. British #148/1000 3 Hits from Hell Cover Photo $35 Fiend Club 2LP Misfits @ Alâs Bar & Samhain Jockey Club 1984 (Stash Records) $40 Eyes to Despise 2LP Alâs Bar, Static Age, Bookies 81, NYC 82 $30 No name WCBN show Fiend on cover $20 No name WCBN show Fiend on cover (Clear & Purple Wax) $25 Beyond Evil $25 Samhain 12" Initium Offer Unholy Passion (Maroon Cover) Offer November Coming Fire $15 Season of the Dead $25 Danzig C.D.âS Mother (Promo) $10 Her Black Wings (Promo) $10 Lucifuge (Promo) Offer This is the finished list. I do have lots of audio/video that I would consider trading for other bands. Any items that have Offer for a price, please make me an offer and I will consider it. If you want additional information on an item please E-mail me. Prices do not include shipping. Thanks. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: Newark, de hey- sorry for being a newbie ass last time. Does anybody live in the vicinity of Newark, Delaware or know where I can get some vinyl around here? There's a large high-school-age punk scene here, kinda lame, but I figure there must be some decent record stores around... also- i was reading the lyrics on the homepage, I always thought the second line of angelfuck went "my little angelfuck, a slice for everyone." yours are probably right though. -aon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 12:34:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Selke Subject: the misfits bible Well here we go, this is my first post to your incredible "Misfits Bible". I must say that I am really impressed with the work all of you have done to get a newsletter such as this off the ground - and Mark (i belive) has done a supurb job on the page - really cool I have been a misfits fan for most of my life, and until coming to the net, have not met too many "real" misfits fans in my days, usually just a bunch of poser skatepunks who have no true identity. There were some cool people around who liked the misfits (in my area) but they are all long gone by now. I grew up on the Misfits and i loved them, Samhain was OK, but I could not get into it as well (i pin this on the fact that during Samhain, glenn moved from punk to heavy metal) I only owned Samhain III and Initium, but i also listened to Danzig for a while, but this too did not bring the "power" that the Misfits brought. As time went on, i got board with Samhain and Danzig, every once in a while i will here a Danzig song i like, but... (get my drift?) Now because from what i tend to get when talking to is the idea that they have heard the Misfits, and they like them, but they dont own anything by them. And because the Misfits seed to be "dead" for years, are the only Glenn Danzig ban i particularly like, i am really not up on current events (i seem to hear that J.Only and Doyle took Glenn to court so they could be the Misfits again?) that could prove to be really cool, but i will have to hear it for real to be really excited about it (great concept, but im not sure about the lineup) If the Misfits did arise again, they would be the only real punk band (i.e. non neo) around besides the Cirkle Jerks who are no longer "punk" and the butthole surfers have not been punk for over five years (if they are still around) <-- if you would like to bitch and moan to me about the existence of punk rock (here or gone) please email me as collection wise goes, nothing too impressive (i was too stupid to take up some prime opportunities) my prize is a 7" Beware (printied on a lime green viynle) original or not, i do not know. If any of you guys live in Michigan, or are traveling that way soon, i can give you the names of a bunch of cool record stores that will have loads of Misfits shit for you to drool at and spend lots of $$$ at. I also know of some other record stores and record shows that pop around fiarly freequently, so if you want the info, lemme know. thats it for now (i seem to have strayyed on a tangent far enough) until l8r, n-joy flood (flood@sojourn.com) ------------------------------ From: LeSTaT Subject: cd Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 14:16:48 -0500 (CDT) ok... i was at the record store recently, and i came across a cd. i almost crapped when i saw that it was a Misfits Import of some kind. i was extremely happy.... even more happy when i saw that there were the two songs i've never heard before, Return of The Fly, and Last Caress. i knmow i coulda waited till Collec. 2 but i thought what the hell... i was wondering, would anyone know of this cd? it's called: Beware, The Complete Singles, 77 - 82. And it has the old spray Can misfits logo... someone lemme know, i was kinda wondering. It's also kinda cool to have Evilive on cd also... heheh... LeSTaT/QuaD-P ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 15:20:39 +0600 Subject: 2 old ?'s renewed 1.) When's the Samhain Box coming out? 2.) Is Glenn doing Wolverine? thanks yall- GREG PETRE http://homepage.interaccess.com/~ols ------------------------------ Subject: Danzig, John Christ From: commando@rushnet.com (COMMANDO) Date: 22 Oct 95 05:55:44 cst HELLO. Now, I normally stear away from RIP magazine, but this one I couldn;t pass up. It had like a road diary with John Christ. He explains their last show was canceled because Glenn was sick. The way he wrote and talked it sounded like he was ready to quit Danzig for a long time, and just wanted to finish of the tour. He says he REALLy wanted to do the last show because It was to be released on video in America. (Do you know if the danzig III, thrall, and 4p video's will be colected and released for sale?) Anyways, on the last page it has backstage passes and 2 guitar picks. Here's the thing. On one of the passes it says on one line:Danzig. And on another line:John Ka..... SO...I am guessing that is his last name (the KA) and the problem is, it's covored up by another pass. SOrry if you allready have this magazine but I had to tll you just incase. Please explain the deal with the Samhain and Misfits box sets. Thanks Bye Chris Myers PS:Do you have John Christ's address? thanks again ------------------------------ From: RPearcy147@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 07:16:11 -0400 Subject: John Christ solo I am trying to find out about the John Christ solo album I heard about. I read an interview right before 4p came out and have not been able to find the album. I am also interested in getting copies of those songs I am hearing about that never got released. RPearcy147@aol.com (Randall Pearcy) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 11:25:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex C Subject: THE handshake... Hey all you fellow fiends, I've been reading the bible for about 5 or 6 months now and this is my first post... Anyways, I saw Danzig this summer with Marilyn Manson and Korn at the Universal ampitheatre in S. California. Me and my friends wereot lucky enough to get floor passes so I simply got into one of the aisles that lead down to the floor and stood there for about 5 minutes telling the people around me that, "if we all went at the same time, we would just knock the damned security guard over." well it worked and we walked over the security guard. So now that we were on the floor we went up to the front to get some action in the pit. I hopped on some guys back and my friend a boost so that i could go 'floating'... When I got towards the front of the crowd, right in front of the stage, Glenn was leaning over and I got up on mn top of the crowd and reached my right hand out and he shook my hand. THAT FUCKING MADE MY ENTIRE NIGHT, needless to say... hmmmm, I have to go to my Bio lab now, late, Alex ------------------------------ From: "Gen. Nusiance" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:13:00 EST (GMT-5) Subject: Cheap Misfits cover show. The Ninjas, Evansville's greatest (and actually only) Misfits cover band is playing a show at Stevenson Station in Evansville,IN on the 28th of Oct. It's a Halloween show, so if you come in costume, the cover is only $3, but if you're lazy you can come out of costume for $5. The Ninjas wiil be playing first (at around 8-8:30 pm) and will be playing a set including all of their originals plus the Ninjas bare minimum of six Misfits covers (More than likely including Last Caress and She) if you can't afford the trip to see the Misfits live in NY on the 31st, but you want to hear the Misfits live, come to the next best thing. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The Ninjas will inherit the earth~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Funded by a grant from the National Endowment of the Arts, Texaco...and of course, viewers like you! "If I had a complaint box, I'd surely wear it as a hat at places, and if I was an organ grinder, well I would be good at that."-The Ninjas (Complaint Box) Mark Nance -mnance@marsh.vinu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 23:34:54 -0400 From: She Subject: READ ME Hey Fiends, I talked with Jerry for about an hour on Saturday night and here's a brief summary of that conversation: HALLOWEEN: --------- Be in New York on Halloween night. Here's why. Type-O Negative will be playing at the Roseland in New York City. When Type-O comes out for their first encore, Jerry and Doyle will be with them. They will play "Halloween" and "Horror Business" with Peter Steele singing and either Chud or the Type-O Negative drummer on drums. Then they'll leave the stage so Type-O can finish the rest of the show. Later that same night, they will be appearing at Coney Island High School, a different club in New York City. Jerry and Doyle will be holding a Halloween party AFTER the Murphy's Law show. Murphy's Law tickets will be $20. The Misfits Halloween party is supposed to be FREE. All Jerry is getting from the club is 24 silver magic markers, 12 black markers and a box of rubber bands. At the door to the Halloween party, Jerry will be giving out 2,000 Static Age posters. Caroline had 40,000 posters printed up to advertise the album. The posters say that the album will be released on Halloween of 1995. When the album is finally released, this portion of the poster will be covered up. The 2,000 copies that Jerry will be giving out are the originals. The Halloween party will start between 1:30 and 2:00 in the morning, long after midnight when Murphy's Law leaves the stage. The schedule of the party is as follows: 1 Static Age - The entire album will be played. 2 Sardonica - Chud's former band will take the stage and play a short set. If Jerry thinks they sound good, he and Doyle will get onstage and play some Misfits songs with Sal B of Sardonica singing. 3 Compilation II - The entire album will be played and Jerry will critique it and explain each song. (See below) 4 Misfits set? - The band may then take the stage with Mike Graves of Lodi, NJ singing. Mike is their current first choice for a vocalist. 5 Electric Frankenstein - This band will play a short set. 6 Max's Kansas City - This album will be played in its entirety for perhaps the only time ever, due to its recent cancellation. So Halloween night will be the night the Misfits break their 12 year curse. They will take the stage and play some songs, but this will not count as their first show. This is just a little warmup before they get things going for good. CHILLER THEATER HORROR CONVENTION: --------------------------------- The band will be signing autographs and selling some of their new shirts, one of which is a glow-in-the-dark Crimson Ghost shirt that will "knock you on your ass". Another shirt was designed by Ed Repka of Megadeth fame. Their display will feature part of the dungeon they have created and will be located on the upstairs level in a room with the Basil Gogos and Doug Evil tables. Unfortunately, this means it will not be possible to get in for free like it was last time. So bring your $$$. THE BOX SET: ----------- The box set will come out in February of 1996. It will consist of 5 to 6 CD's in a coffin shaped box. Eerie Von is writing liner notes for this release. The Static Age album will be released in this set and may never be released otherwise. STATIC AGE: ---------- The Static Age album was mastered from the original mix using the original mixing tape from the studio. This tape had been sitting in Franche' Coma's safety deposit box for more than 17 years, untouched. For those who have a copy of the Static Age demo sessions, the only differences are these: o Jerry removed the slight microphone pop at the end of "Come Back" o Static noise was added as added to the end and beginning of the tape The original plan was for the CD to come in a specially designed black CD box with a Crimson Ghost cover and raised lettering. A toy company in the UK was hired to manufacture the case. Unfortunately Glenn found out about the plans and threatened to sue if they put out the Static Age album before his "Collection II". Originally Glenn claimed to have "lost" his Static Age master tapes, but as soon as he heard about the album, his tape suddenly surfaced and he was able to use it for some songs on the Collection II album. GLENN: ----- As far as Jerry is concerned, Glenn is trying to tone down the impact of the return of The Misfits. He did everything he could to cancel the Static Age album and in return we have to settle with his "Collection II" which Jerry does not like (see below). However, Jerry is agreeing to go along with Glenn's desires for the moment, so that Static Age and future Misfits releases will be able to come out without problems. Unfortunately, this remains to be seen. You never know what Glenn might do next. Jerry is still waiting for Glenn to give them the master tape for Earth A.D. as well as the proofread and corrected lyrics for all Misfits songs. COLLECTION II: ------------- Jerry played the whole Collection II album for me. He gave it an F rating. Apparently, he dislikes most of the remixes and says that some of the songs aren't even the Misfits. He is VERY pissed off about its release and he let Caroline know. However, as stated above, he is going to put up with it. Here is a summary of his comments: We Are 138 - Taken from Glenn's master tape which had been sitting in his basement for years. Therefore the quality isn't as good as the quality of the Static Age LP. Attitude - Same comments Cough/Cool - Glenn has added either another keyboard or a very fuzzy guitar to complement the other keyboard. He also may have recorded over the original drums. This was definitely not recorded this way by the band and is another example of Glenn's overdubbing. Last Caress - See "We Are 138" Return Of The Fly - See "We Are 138" Children In Heat - Probably more overdubbing over Bobby's original guitar. Rat Fink - Same as on the "Night Of The Living Dead" single. Horror Hotel - Same as on the "3 Hits From Hell" single. Halloween - Same as on the "Halloween" single. May be a slightly different mix. Halloween II - Same as on the "Halloween" single. Hate Breeders - Jerry says this is not the Misfits. The mix is different from the original. I did some research later with some of my demo tapes and determined that he was mistaken. To me this sounds like the demo version from the original Walk Among Us session. Braineaters - Although I couldn't detect any major differences, Jerry says that this song is not the same as the original. Since the band only recorded this song once, he says this is also not the Misfits. Again, this sounded like an alternate mix to me. Nike A Go Go - He says this is also not the Misfits. He says there's an error at the beginning of the song that they would not have made. Devils Whorehouse - A different mix than the "Walk Among Us" version. He doesn't like it. Mephisto Waltz - Jerry had never heard this song before. He suspects that it's really Samhain. He likes the song, but says it's not the Misfits. During the song there is a solo that sounds like a saxophone. We Bite - Very similar if not the same as the original. Queen Wasp - Jerry doesn't like the mix of this song. Doyle's "wasp" guitar is kept in the background and part of the beginning is cut. Demonomania - An alright mix similar to the original. Hellhound - Another okay mix. Bloodfeast - He likes this alternate mix. Personally, I look forward to the release of this album, although I must say "Mephisto Waltz" kind of let me down. It's definitely unlike any other Misfits song. Also, I think that Jerry was mistaken about some of the songs. He hasn't really listened to the old demo tapes in years and is used to the way the band plays them now, so this might explain his comments. MAX'S X-MAS: ----------- Jerry fears this album will never be released. Glenn is very disturbed about the overdubbing Jerry and Doyle did to the tracks. According to Jerry, the overdubs had to be made because the original bass and guitar didn't come through on the original recording. He and Doyle did the overdubs all in one take, so it was similar to a live recording. Unfortunately Glenn doesn't agree. (For some reason, it's okay for him to make overdubs and not them...) THE FIEND CLUB: -------------- The Fiend Club is back. Jerry has stickers, postcards, and other things for the Fiend Club to distribute. One problem they are encountering is the existence of a west coast company called Fiend Sportswear. Because of them, the Fiend Club is currently not legally allowed to produce any sort of apparel. Jerry is trying to work out a deal with them that will allow them have one shirt and one hat for sale at a time. Another problem they have is that they don't yet have the mailing list running. They are waiting to receive the master list from a friend and will then begin doing mass mailings. One plan for the future is the "Find A Fiend" promotion. They will be sending out postcards with the Fiend Club address on them and members of the Fiend Club must return these postcards with the name and address of another fan who is not in the Fiend Club. This way the fan club can eventually hope to reach all fiends worldwide and get stuff out to everyone independently. This part of the conversation was especially interesting for me because he kept calling me the president of the Fiend Club and said, "No one else has done more than you have. You're a walking encyclopedia and you know more about me than I do. We're gonna let you run it..." Yes... it was pretty exciting. I don't know how much of it will actually come true, but at least for one night I can say I replaced Glenn Danzig as the president of the Fiend Club. FUTURE PLANS: ------------ Mad Marc Rude, who did the artwork for Earth AD, is designing album cover artwork that is currently referred to as "Earth AD 2". Also, Jerry's trying to contact Pushead to do more artwork for them. Glenn has recently been putting out Misfits shirts with Pushead artwork through Brockum, and Jerry would like Pushead to design better stuff for them. Jerry will also be appearing in an upcoming issue of Maximum Rock n Roll explaining the whole Misfits situation. THE SINGER: ---------- The part everyone's been waiting for. Unfortunately, it won't be Dave Vanian. After six months, it has finally been decided. Dave wouldn't agree to anything Jerry offerred, and contrary to rumors, he never even came out to rehearse with them. Jerry was diappointed with the outcome, but is still looking for someone who's even better. Mike Graves, formerly known as Mike Emmanuel, may or may not end up getting the job. He can sing the songs and he has the look, but Jerry is still keeping his eyes open. He even made a joke about having Eerie Von join the band as bassist so that Jerry could do the vocals. So we'll see. On Sunday I talked to Bobby for about 2 hours. Most of our talk didn't really have a whole lot to do with The Misfits although I did learn that a guy named Robbie Alter played guitar on songs from the MSP sessions. Also Bobby will be apearing at the Chiller Theater convention all day Saturday at Big Sex Outfitters table selling Undead stuff. That's all for now. Mark. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 115 Thursday, October 26th 1995 Today's Topics: John Greetings misfits and a.f.i. various glow in the dark shirt fiend club bibles 111-113 Damn! Things is rollin'! straight edge lifestyles/equipment QUICK TIME Seattle earth ad, earth ad/evilive, i hear ya! scumfuc in NYC Halloween tickets Album Update Static Age Posters Trivia Contest my first post/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 00:37:31 -0400 From: She Subject: John to answer some of the questions about John, he had one song on the "Guitar's Practicing Musicians Vol 3" album and is working on some more solo stuff. so for now there's just the song "for christ's sake" on the above mentioned compilation. those who wish to write to john should use Eerie's PO Box address in NJ. I have the address on the page. mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 01:44:41 Subject: Greetings From: Techno Destructo Hey I just wanted to say that I think it's wonderful that Glenn "remixed" a lot of the Static Age stuff. I'm sure his personal touch will really spice things up a bit. I trimble in utter fear at the notion of Jerry and Doyle playing around with it. I'm terribly sorry if my opinion pisses everyone off but hey, I said it was my opinion ! Not yours! So don't let it upset you too much. tECHNO dESTRUCTO WDE ------------------------------ From: zoinks@cybergate.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 07:24:19 GMT Subject: misfits and a.f.i. hello again fellow fiend members: for those of us who like "punk rock" should check out a fearley new band called a.f.i., there big misfit fan's and if you catch them live there's a big chance they will play a few misfit tunes,on there album "answer that and stay fashionable" they have a song called "i wanna mohawk but mom won't let me get one" one line of the song goes:"i may be in 4th grade,but know what's going on,i listen to the misfits every single day".This band fuck'n rocks,very much recamanded.....in fuckin credible. ------------------------------ From: flex Subject: various Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 13:29:01 MEZ boy, bible #114 was a blast! more info than in the past 10 issues combined. great! i recently got the "Singles 77-82"CD bootleg (10$!), and i think it's pretty good. The thing that bugs me, though, is that a lot of the tracks have 1-2 seconds missing at the beginning. that's really obnoxious. is the Beware and the rest CD any better? oh, and i have a Danzig tour sticker for trade, i mean the thing that the roadies put on their clothes. it's from the 1990 tour, unused. maybe if you have one from another tour, rwe can trade. cheers flex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 13:14:10 +0300 From: Gary LaRue Subject: glow in the dark shirt Fiends, If anyone is going to the Chiller convention I would like to purchase one of the new t-shirts with the glow in the dark logo. If anyone could get some sure that people would buy them off of you. THE EVIL EYE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 06:44:42 -0500 From: Gary LaRue Subject: fiend club I want to know how to get into the fiend club. I'm only 18 and have liked the Misfits for a long time, but have never had access to the fiend club. Someone please send me some information on the fiend club as well as Kryst the Conqueror. J.R. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 14:51:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: bibles 111-113 hey Mark that was great! (#114). I was wondering what mixes exactly would be used for the alt. EAD and WAU songs. Personally, I think Glenn can do whatever he wants w/the stuff since he wrote it, but I admit I feel a bit disappointed if the completely-original stuff doesn't come out on cd. I found it most interesting that he didn't even think some of these songs were the Misfits!...verrrrry interesting...anyway, I won't die if there is one fewer live Misfits show in the world, but this "Blue Christmas" business sounds too good to miss. I hope they come to some kind of agreement. Congratulations as Glenn's successor! Anyway: Doug said: is "The Other Side" a version of the Doors song?.....I seriously, seriously doubt it. I am not aiming this comment at you but Glenn does not copy JM as much as some people think. On maybe 5 or 6 songs Glenn sounds like him, but I will argue to my dying day that Glenn is far better singer and songwriter. Please don't anyone start a 20-Bible-long argument because of this... Dave V. said: "Is "Little Whip" the new version of "Livin' Doll" ? man, you took the words right out of my brain. As soon as saw "Little Whip" in a magazine (around last July) I got excited that maybe Glenn just renamed 'Livin' Doll" and was gonna release it. Ever since the days before How the Gods Kill I've wanted to hear "Livin' Doll". Don't ask why, but I always imagined it as a Killer Wolfish-type blues song. I think though,that "Whip" is more sexual, whereas a living doll is just a way of describing a pretty girl ( maybe it is more of a love song...) I actually wonder if "The Other Side" is something like "Long Way..." Let me stress, though, that in each of the magazines that I found these (and the others) unreleased songs, it was made clear that THESE SONGS WERE ACTUALLY RECORDED. So, even if they did evolve into something else, someone (Glenn or Rick Rubin?) has these originals. For "White Devil Rise", Glenn said he was unhappy with how it sounded. This, plus the defection of Chuck (remember, he would have been the drummer on all of these unreleased tracks), and Eerie and John may mean that Glenn will probably completely rerecord it, if it is indeed to be on "danzig 5". What else...oh yeah... Elvis: Glenn is of course "The Evil Elvis" "Trouble" was originally the King's songs, written by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller (who also wrote several other Elvs songs, including "Hound Dog" Danzig did "trouble" live for years (Glenn even siad that samhain did it) and finally put it on Thrall. I think he said that they recorded it for every album before the Thrall version actually came out. Elvis' version is on the "King Creole" movie Soundtrack. (You'll notice that the chorus of "heart of the Devil" is drawn from "Trouble" "Lucifuge" may be some devil's right hand man or whatever somone said, but long before any of these freak-books were written it was a form of the Latin verb LUCIFUGERE. Mark's answer (as usual) was on-the-money. Glenn never said he made it up; other people/magazines said he said this, and often they completely misquoted the latin meaning he gave them. He told my friends Mike and Brad how this has occurred when they met him in Toronto...unfortunately my ride could'nt stick around after that show, so I waited another two years before meeting him (in detroit). I've got some stories, but those I'll save for later.... Before I go, Mark, what did you think of my alt. lyrics for Die die? No one has yet posted ideas about the end of Tired of Being Alive and the 2nd verse of Kiss of Steel. Does anyone know these???? Sorry to ramble..more later (ie: true origin of "Left hand Black") "...this vivisection splits my soul..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:46:29 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: Damn! Things is rollin'! Re: Astounding news of things finally happening with the Misfits "You know me better than I do"... damn, that's funny! Too bad Jerry's not pleased with the Collection II tracks, and that the Max's KC show may never reach the ears of us non-East Coast kids who can't make the Halloween party...! But, man, it'll be cool as hell to FINALLY see some new LEGIT Misfits releases out there!!! I can hardly wait to plop down an inevitably huge wad of cash for this stuff! It'll be worth it. It's about damned time!!! Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:58:48 +0600 Subject: straight edge Hey goatboy- I am straight edge also, always have been. GREG PETRE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 21:55 PDT From: Kent Bendall Subject: lifestyles/equipment Almost Halloween! Yaaayyy!! Last bible Goatboy was wondering if anyone else was "straightedge" - i find the term a little silly - , but yeah, me and and my band (the AstroZombies) are all basically clean livin'. Brad smokes, and i drink Cola like there's no tomorrow - but other than that, no booze + no drugs. Which leads me to wonder what the Misfits lifestyles were/are like? I've heard a bootleg where ( i think) Glenn is yelling for beer, and Bobby had a drug problem - but what about everyone else? Was Doyle even old enough to drink when he started?! I'm not wanting to pass judgement on anyone, but i think this is something that hasn't been touched on yet - sure it's kinda sleazy and "tabloid-y" but it's gotta be better than "Glenn's a big goof". I just can't picture any of them as a vegetarian! Another tangent i'd like to pursue is that of equipment. Mark has a small list on the WebPage but i'd like to know every lil nit-picky detail. Doyle's usually seen with an Iceman (body anyways - i know him and Jerry pieced their own gear together) and i've seen shots of Franche playing an Explorer, but what about Bobby? What did/does he play? I've never seen a live shot of the 'Fits w/Bobby. It's always Doyle Doyle Doyle!! Any info on amps, guitars, strings, straps n' picks would be (i think) kinda neat. Or maybe i'm way outta line here, and everyone just wants to hack Danzig! Just a few ideas....... ...........kent............ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 03:57:50 EDT From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: QUICK TIME -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- DID ANY OF YOU FIENDS FIND MY WEB INFO ON THE QUICK TIME MOV. PLAYER USEFUL!!! IF SO LET ME KNOW. THANKS.......TIM FROM PORTLAND ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:01:30 -0400 From: Vandal Subject: Seattle Anyone know of any places in Seattle to get Misfits stuff cheap?? My friend won a Doom tournament and he gets to go to Seattle, and since you cant find anything here, i told him to look there.... so if you know, please tell me soon.. thanks.. -------------------------------- Creator of Misfits Book program thanks to Mark Kennedy Misfits Book (C)Copyright 1995 Mark Kennedy http://www.cris.com/~gala/vandal.html ------------------------------ From: REAGANPR@vax1.acs.jmu.edu Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 00:03:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: earth ad, earth ad/evilive, i hear ya! Greetings fiends! I am dying! I am looking for things that i cannot find. Here's what I need: 1. The Misfits: earth ad on CD (5000 gold discs pressed) 2. The Misfits: earth ad/evilive on CD (german release) 3. I hear ya!: the CD or a copy of the order form from SWILL magazine Also, could the fiend who recorded Creepy Compilation for the bible subcribers please contact me? I have a bad dub of it that i bought at Reptilian records in B'more and i want one of higher quality. Thanx fiends, Pat Reagan "reaganpr@jmu.edu" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:11:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Belial Subject: scumfuc in NYC Fellow ghouls going to the Chiller Convention and Hallowe'en Show at CIH: I'd be interested in finding y'all there. I'll be the slob with dog collar and leash and blacked-out eyes. If planning on seeing other shows from 10/27-10/31, try and get to Skalloween (10 Oi! bands including Oxblood plus others) on the 30th. I'll be the same scumbag there, too (though my hair might be up under a hat -- don't need any hospital visits.) Find me! -Chuck ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: Halloween tickets Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 12:02:00 edt If anybody is interested I have 5 tickets to sell for Type O Negative on Halloween at Roseland with special guest Misfits jam according to the last Bible.... I'm in Gaithersburg MD (near DC) right now but I'll be at the Chiller Con this weekend if anybody wants to buy them I could meet you there - very negotiable, esp if you want all as I'd rather make something than loose out $100! Please e-mail me at sistinas@planetcom.com if interested! -EVB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:55:35 -0400 From: She Subject: Album Update I talked to Jerry a few more times and here's what he has to say about the Collection II album. The album has a sepia brown colored Crimson Ghost on the cover, taken from the original Fiend Club 8 x 10" Crimson Ghost from the late 70's. This is very different from the Crimson Ghost we're all used to because it has eyeballs and other features. The picture is similar to the Max's Kansas City flyer with the Crimson Ghost with his arms folded. The back features a different green colored picture of the Crimson Ghost. The Misfits logo will not be on the cover anywhere. It will be on an orange sticker on the wrapping. Jerry isn't sure why Caroline chose to do it this way. Caroline has already pressed 100,000 copies of the CD, complete with the lyrics to all 20 songs. Unfortunately, as is standard, Glenn is not pleased. He first decided he didn't want the album released and then decided it could be released if the artwork was changed. He wants to use the Santa Claus/Crimson Ghost painting done by Basil Gogos, but they refused because they want that picture for the Max's X-mas album. So, this means that the artwork might change after the first 100,000 copies are sold, IF Glenn comes up with better artwork. So we'll see. To answer some recent questions, the Max's X-mas album was supposed to come out on Christmas of this year. It is a 12 song live recording of the band performing a lot of old songs. Jerry often refers to it as Christmas of 1980 although I was originally led to believe the show was from 1978. Unfortunately, Jerry and Doyle did some overdubs that Glenn doesn't approve of, and the album was cancelled for now. And... more news about the Type-O Negative show. Jerry called me again this morning at 1 am after practicing with Type-O. They have decided to go with Astro Zombies, 20 Eyes, and Vampira for the encores. And... interesting news here - they will be doing 2 shows with them: 10/30/95 - The Chance Poughkeepsie, NY 10/31/95 - Roseland New York, NY so that's 2 chances to see the Misfits playing with Type-O. The guitarist will be singing and Peter will be doing backup. Peter's voice didn't work well enough on lead with Misfits tunes. So go if you can, it should be interesting. For those of you who will be going to the Halloween Party, you might want to bring Initium to be autographed. Lyle Preslar will probably be there too and Jerry is trying to get Type-O to swing by for a few more songs. Things are looking interesting. It's too bad EVB won't be there. Jerry hopes to see you all there... so if you can do it, do it. Mark ------------------------------ From: cep@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:12:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: Static Age Posters Hello. This to anyone who is going to the Halloween Misfits party-- Regretably, with only a week's notice it is impossible to afford tickets to New York from Arizona, but for those of you who will be there, we have a request to make. If it would be possible for anyone to get an extra copy (or two or three) of that Static Age poster they are giving away, we would happily pay for them. (If autographed by Jerry and or Doyle, we happily pay more for them.) We realize that this is a lot to ask, but if any of you could and would do this we would REALLY appreciate it! Thanks a lot -- Mario, Ellie and Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 22:44:04 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Trivia Contest After carefully tabulating the results I've narrowed it down to 2 winners (Only 2 people bothered to try) EVB win's with 14 correct and Jake Starr comes in second with 8 correct. What's amazing is, as boring as this list has been of late, how come more of you didn't at least try? My explaination is Apathy which is the general problem of youth today. And people start to wonder why I disappear from this list for extended periods of time. In any case, EVB should I send your disk to the PO Box?? Jake you need to send me your snail mail addy Thanks for playing - the answers are as follows 1) Member's of which two (2) great punk bands made up "The Lords of the New Church" ans: The Dead Boy's & The Damned _______________________________________________________________ 2) "Ever Fallen in Love?" originally recorded by the Buzzcocks was covered in 1987 by what band? HINT: it's on the soundtrack of the Jonathan Demme film "Something Wild" ans: Fine Young Cannibals And yes the song sucks - check out the original - buy a CD Called "operators Manual" by The Buzzcocks it's worth the money _______________________________________________________________ 3) NY Punk time - Robert Gordon was lead vocal for what pioneering CBGB regular band? HINT: This is pre-punk explosion ans: The Tuff Darts Robert Gordon has since gone on to a successful solo career he does rockabilly and had his greatest sucess with 'Black Slacks' He came out of the first wave of bands from CBGB, circa 1976, others include Mink Deville. _______________________________________________________________ 4) "Johnny Hit and Run Pauline" was a hit for what L.A. band? ans: X _______________________________________________________________ 5) "Flesh ancient monster design....." are some lyrics from what song? ans: Hollywood Babylon btw: Jerry told me once that this referred to a "Huge monster Phallus" _______________________________________________________________ 6) The guitar lead in "Hurdy Gurdy Man" by Donovan was played by? ans: Jimmy Page Before creating Led Zed Jimmy Page was a much in demand session musician in the UK. _______________________________________________________________ 7) Missing Persons was led by the Husband & Wife team of? Terry & Dale Bozio Terry went on to play drums for Frank Zappa. I haven't a clue what Dale and her famous breasts is doing. _______________________________________________________________ 8) CBGB & OMFUG is an acronym for what? ans: Country, Blue Grass, Blues & other music for uplifting gormandizer's btw: check out http:\\www.cbgb.com _______________________________________________________________ 9) Franche Coma's Real name is? ans: Frank Lacata Frank still lives in Lodi, and teaches guitar. after having a conversation with him for about an hour, I found it hard to believe that he was ever in the misfits in the first place! He's really a quiet guy. _______________________________________________________________ 10) Richard Hell played bass with what band? ans: OK I goofed there's a few correct answers for this I was going for "The Voidoids" _______________________________________________________________ 11) Crossroads by Cream (Eric Clapton) is credited to Robert Johnson the lyrics are from two (2) of Johnson songs. Name them? ans: Crossroad Blues & Taveling Riverside Blues _______________________________________________________________ 12) What band originally recorded "Kick out the Jams"? ans: MC5 (it was later covered by BOC) _______________________________________________________________ 13) What brand of guitar do Jerry & Doyle play today? ans: they make there own is not a correct answer they do make their own - but they have a brand name - RAND anyone who's ever seen the Doyle Poster should know this It's an advertisement "Powered by RAND" _______________________________________________________________ 14) The album cover for "The Velvet Underground w/ Nico" was done by what artist? ans: Andy Warhol It's the Banana Print _______________________________________________________________ 15) Who is the person now known as Buster Poindexter? and what band did he make his name with? HINT: The answer isn't "The Banshees of Blue" ans: David Johanson - The New York Dolls Later in his career he had great sucess with "The Animals Medley" and "Funky But Chic" you funky but, funky but, alright, alright, alright *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%* * Fuck you I won't do what ya tell me........Mother Fucker % % * * ---- The Crimson Ghost % % * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ From: Geoffrey King Subject: my first post/ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 23:09:25 -0400 (EDT) this is my first post to the misfits list. ok, a few things...did anyone ever find out what 138 means? i read backissues of the bible, but no one really seems to know. it's a cool song too. i don't see why you hard core misfits fans like danzig's new stuff so much. i think it's crappy. i mean, glenn has such a dynamic voice and has so much range, but it seems like he's just mellowed out. i mean, no 'whoooaha ohoho" stuff going on. And you have to love "whoaoh"'s and such. glenn's new stuff disappoints me and samhain frightens me for some reason. mind you, glenn is no milo aukerman, but he is one hell of a singer. (my opinion, don't crucify me for it) now you are all free to make fun of my first post because it seems kind of stupid, but nonetheless, i'd like some responses. seeya geoff (not geoff weasel) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Misfits | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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HALLOWEEN Box ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DODSWORTH Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 11:24:40 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #115 > From: flex > > i recently got the "Singles 77-82"CD bootleg (10$!), and i think it's pretty > good. The thing that bugs me, though, is that a lot of the tracks have > 1-2 seconds missing at the beginning. that's really obnoxious. > is the Beware and the rest CD any better? > I have the same Cd and am very happy with it. The only song (on my copy) that starts late is Bullet. I like it more than Beware and the Rest b/c it has more songs, + evilive on Cd. In last issue Mark said that there would be a boxed set with 5-6 Cds. What else other than Static Age is planned to be put out. I really hope its not re-issues of albums we have. You could probably fit 2 albums or so on one Cd anyway. Earth AD is like sub 20 minutes if I remember correctly. It seems like Caroline is trying to cash in on all us loyal fans who will no doubt buy the Set at least for Static Age. -John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 12:04:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bryan M. Gruda" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #115 To all you fiends out there! I'm also looking for the Earth AD cd as well as any singles produced on cd.I really haven't heard about any singles on cd but ya never know. I also would like to know if there are any fiends in the Syracuse area and if they know of a good store where I can get misfits shit. One more thing I was wondering how much did that guy pay for his model from attck of the clay people because I want one but I can't really make it to the chiller conventions. So if you could tell me how much and ask the guy to make one for me I would really appreciate that. So long! ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:08:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: mainly for Crimson ghost Sorry, this is mainly for the crimson ghost, but for some reason i can't get my school's computer to send stuff out to him directly. I wanted to say i enjoyed your trivia contest and thought it was a noble effort. Even though for some reason i couldnt respond it was cool to check out.(by the way the ones i would have missed/thought were hard were the tuff darts,missing persons,rand,and trying to guess if you wanted Dick Hell in television,the heartbreakers, or the voidoids). So anyway, dont be to disheartend i enjoy your posts and your pressence on the list, this goes for everybody too. so big thanks to everybody(exta thanks to keyplayers like crimsy, mark,EVB,and you knowwho you are.) A guy here in Memphis makes these plywood/papermachai(sp) monsters to stick in his yard every year. These things are big. On his porch he has a 5ft by about 5ft crimson ghost skull under a floating head of Elvis that was about the same size. it made me chuckle. You know, i think 2 whole issues have gone by and no one has said they saw a misfits poster on saved by the bell. how long can we go before it comes up again? If any one is close to jerry could they ask him to put aside some of those static age posters for fiends who are not able to get to N.Y.? I'll try and write him but, i bet it wont get there till after halloween. Thank for reading this crap jamil ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:18:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: equipment? oh yeah, like kent in last the last issue i too would like to know more about the guitars/amps that all of the 'fits used/use thanks jamil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:11:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: re: you puny piece of crap (fwd) I got this nice piece of mail from Kriney about my response to his asking $4 for a newspaper clipping. Which i still think is completely silly. But anyway, I thought I'd share with the rest of you his fucked reasoning. Like $1 shipping costs? Hahhaah.. as if, unless he lives in the UK or sumptin'. He's been such a nice guy, selling a "collectors item" so cheap. Shit, anyone can go to a library, find the issue, and rip the ad out. Or photocopy it. And in the end he brags how cool he is for selling boot tapes for low prices (whatever that is). I think if you're gonna sell a boot, it shouldn't be a shitty 10th gen dub and it shouldn't be on a crappy tape,but anyway.. on to the mail. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 12:26:41 EDT From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu To: jrjorden@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Subject: you puny piece of crap ridiculous, you are rediculous...take into consideration, that these will eventually sell for a lot more, and since there would be $1.00 for postage alone, i would only be making $3.00, and these, in my eyes are worth much more, if you are gonna be a bitch, you might as well get your facts straight bitch. #2, if you didnt see my add for selling bootlegged live shows in bible 112, you obviously dont realize that i am not trying to rip anyone off on this bible, in fac i wa offering to tape live bootleggs for people at dirt cheap prices..you fucker.. love goatboy- aka-adam kriney ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:19:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert G. McFeaters" Hello Misfits Fans. This is my first post, so don't go nuts on me for pissing you off. I'd like to respond to the question regarding the meaning of "138." As in "We Are 138." 138 divided by two is 69. Isn't this an interesting number? 138 would be 4 people doing a 69. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I couldn't think of anything else. What do you all think? rob. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 22:03:11 -0400 Subject: Demonmania Club Does anyone have this 2 CD set? If so, please e-mail me what is on it (as in shows). I can't seem to get onto the Web page, and I want to know if I should order it or not. Thanks! Chris ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #115 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 22:28:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: Gary LaRue > > I want to know how to get into the fiend club. > I'm only 18 and have liked the Misfits for a long time, but have > never had access to the fiend club. Someone please send me > some information on the fiend club as well as Kryst the Conqueror. > J.R. to get into the fiend club, just write to the P.O. Box 310 address at the end of every issue. That's the Fiend Club address. Give them your address and phone # and you're set. > From: Geoffrey King > > ok, a few things...did anyone ever find out what 138 means? i read > backissues of the bible, but no one really seems to know. it's a cool song Keep reading. Yes, this is the 3rd time we've gone over this one, the most recent being about 20 issues ago. We Are 138 is taken from the movie THX1138, as listed on the home page. THX1138 was a science fiction movie directed by George Lucas and the song is about having a number instead of a name - basically a 1984 and other types of stories ripoff. It has nothing to do with sex. and nothing to do with ages, or anything else for that matter. Everyone should go check out the movie. It sounds somewhat interesting. mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 23:54:24 -0500 From: st930419@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (Andrew Share) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #115 In regards to someone asking what the Misfits' lifestyles were like. I remember reading an interview that Glen said that he was straighedge until he got drunk with the Necros one night. But anyway, I got a copy of a radio show from Harvard from around 1984. It was a two hour tribute to the Misfits with an interview with Glenn. He is really protective about all of the unreleased stuff. In the interview the DJ says that they are going to play some unreleased stuff that Glenn sent to them on a personal tape and Glenn jumped right in saying that he had better be getting the tape back. I guess that could shed some light on the "new" releases. I am not going to make it to NY at all for Halloween, but for those of you who do go, you had better enjoy it for those of us who cannot. Andrew Share st930419@pip.cc.brandeis.edu &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Brown eggs & & Are local Eggs & & And local eggs & & Are Fresh! & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:58:03 +0100 From: "Wolverine-j." Subject: Verotika # 1...... Hi, I `m looking for Verotika #1. In Holland it`s not available( or ever was). If there`s some one of you out there who has a spare copy and is willing to sell it to me, I would be very pleased. Also If someone knows a comic store who also run a mailorder where I can order them, please let me know. Last question; Anyone out there who has seen the whole contract of Danzig when they played on the Dynamo Festival in Holland in june `95. I just saw a small part in a German metal magazine. It was pretty cool, he had a lot of weird demands. Thanks, Wolverine-j. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 08:29:28 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Old Arguements Hate to bring up old bible arguments but this one pissed me me off, I never felt that this thread was argued fully. I got this message via email in response to my new sig. >CG> * Fuck you I won't do what ya tell me........Mother Fucker >CG> % > >I am very ashamed that someone with such excellent taste as yours would >include a Rage Against the Machine quote in his sig... > >"FUCK YOU WE GET OUR PAYCHECKS FROM SONY... MOTHER FUCKER" I'm not looking to flame the person that sent the mail, so I've striped the header info. Fuck this attitude. When I like a tune I could give a shit if it was recorded by Barry Manilow with bobby sherman backing him up! I'm gonna buy it. My taste in music is not dictated by some unwritten code of ethics, that says I can't possibly bring myself to listen to a band that got a lucky break via a major recording contract. If Rage was out on some indie label would you like the tune any more? I don't think so. It's a good tune tune, radio play and all. If it were out on an indie the only thing that would have changed is the fact that I would have been inconvenienced trying to buy it. Bands don't get into this business to be underground. They get into this business to make money, Danzig is a good example of that. I got pissed when I talked to my neighbor's kid last weekend. He's 15 years old, into the misfits, and bands I've never heard of, Morbid something or other. In any case he's got that same attitude. He went out and bought "The Offspring" when it was released, now he refuses to listen to it. Why does he refuse? Because some moron told him their not cool to listen to because they're too popular. Great thing to teach our children. This is like fucking racism. Don't talk to him because he's a Jew don't play with him he's black, don't listen to that they're on a major label! There are much better things in this world to focus our hate towards, like the Democrats, the Republican's, racism, Al Sharpton, Luis Farrakhan, Senator Exon, etc.... Free your minds, think for yourself for a change. Don't fall into this bullshit thinking, it was bullshit in 1977 and it's bullshit today. *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%* * Fuck you I won't do what ya tell me........Mother Fucker % % * * ---- The Crimson Ghost % % * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ From: Misfitkev@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 21:19:07 -0400 Subject: Hello fiends!!! This is my second writing to the list and I would like to repeat myself and say that this list KiCks AsS!!!!! Okay...Everyone is talking about Danzig and stuff so I think I'll add my two cents. Well, I personally think Glenn is a self-rightous asshole. Samhain and Danzig are just a circus sideshow for Satan freaks. Danzig 1 is cool though, I must admit. I have heard Danzig 4p, and it is garbage. Glenn sounds like an old man singin' the blues on the corner. And the distortion voice thing is annoying. Unfortunately, I bought it. At the last Danzig show I was at about a year or two ago, I asked Glenn what 4p meant. He responded by saying ,"It's deep". What the fuck!! A fan asks you a serious question and you ditch it. Ahhhh. but the Misfits are a true punk experiance!!!!!! They are amazing. So I say, Glenn, you shouldn't have jumped out of the moving van and joined Eriee Von for "Danzig"and "Sam-ham". Everyone has heard of the Misfits..and they haven't been around for a while. Can you imagine if they had stayed together?? Now that they are back,(thanks to the internet) there will be so much advertising that the media won't be able to ignore it. Well , thanks for this really cool E-Mail club!!!! and the Awsome Misfits web pages!!!!!!!!!!!! see ya!!!----Buffalo, New York Fan Misfitkev@Aol.com---Kevin P.s> Could someone tell me how to become an official Fiend ??? I want to help the Misfits advertise for the "Second Coming of True Punk!!!!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 21:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Cereal Killer Subject: Re: A.F.I. Hello. It's been a while since I last posted something. Thank you, zoinks, for mentioning A.F.I. They're a local band from Berkeley, CA. I've written to the lead singer Davey a few times, he's cool. I told him that he remind- ed me of Glenn (because of the way he moves on stage, and also because he wears a devilock) and asked what his favorite Misfits album and songs were. He said, "I guess my favorite Misfits album is Walk Among Us. My favorite song is probably Children in Heat, or All Hell, or Return of the Fly...I don't know, they're all so good. I'll take the Danzig comparison as a compliment. He's one of the Best singers." I told him that I'd post about A.F.I. on the Misfits list, but I never got around to it. (Sorry, Davey.) I agree with zoinks, go check out A.F.I. if you can. (BTW, zoinks, you're pretty lucky that you saw them play some Misfits tunes...maybe I'll see them do some next time.) "ANSWER THAT AND STAY FASHIONABLE" is a great a great album, it's definitely worth checking out. Kris. "Wanna be a highschool football hero with an S.A.T. score less than zero. I wanna try to drink my weight in beer. I wanna be a high school football hero." (HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL HERO, A.F.I) ------------------------------ From: JACKSON017@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #113 I just got the newest Danzig album. For some reason i jumped ahead and the numbers kept going up. The next song was number 66 and it was this eerie organ and the guys singing/chanting. What was i listening to? ------------------------------ From: BT5211 Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 17:14:36 GMT0BST Subject: morrison, danzig 1 Someone said they didn't think Danzig copied Morrison. My advice: Listen to "She Rides" on danzig 1 and then listen to "I'm a Spy" on Morrison Hotel. Furthermore, to the guy who thinks all of Danzigs new stuff lacks "whoaoaoa", listen to Danzig . It's a great fuckin' record. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 14:23:16 -0500 From: She Subject: Horror Con Just a small report on the Horror Convention that took place from Friday until Sunday. I arrived Friday night around 8pm and went upstairs to the Misfits section. It was a great setup, using part of the graveyard scene from last year and part of their dungeon scene. The cost was $13 a day but luckily I didn't have to pay it. The band was selling a lot of great new shirts and Jerry was kind enough to give me two of them. I'll describe the shirts below. The Jerry Only model was also on sale, and Misfits music was blasting throughout the hallway. Also at the Misfits table were flyers for the Halloween party/show on Tuesday and Crimson Ghost masks as well as the Earth AD and Evil Eye wall plaques. Friday night was pretty uneventful. The crowd was small and the convention only took place for a few hours. However, Steve Zing (formerly of Samhain) showed up for a little while. Chud and Mike Graves, now official members of the band, were also at the convention, dressed up in complete Misfits uniforms. Everyone looked good. I stayed at Chud's house in Lodi, NJ with Johnathon Grimm. We took a look at the Static Age posters that will be given out on Halloween. They're at Chud's and they look interesting. They feature the old, white on black undetailed Crimson Ghost with the old Misfits logo in red across the top and the words "Static Age Halloween 1995" down at the bottom. I wasn't really impressed by them, but they're better then nothing. On Saturday, we got up to the hotel pretty early. A huge crowd had already assembled outside. The setup for the day was pretty much the same, with the addition of the Crimson Ghost model (created by Jerry's brother) and the music of "Collection II". After listening to it several times, I do agree with Jerry that a lot of the songs are NOT the Misfits. Specifically - "Hate Breeders" "Braineaters" "Nike A Go Go" and "Cough/Cool" are very very overdubbed. The first three songs sound a lot faster and heavier than the Misfits would have recorded them. Having heard the demo versions from the original recording sessions, it is obvious that Glenn has rerecorded almost all aspects of the song, except in some cases the vocal track. "Cough/Cool" sounded complete redone except for one of the keyboard tracks. "Mephisto Waltz" is a catchy song. Unfortunately, it's very obviously not the Misfits. It has a lot of yelling/moaning in the background and is very similar to Samhain's "I Am Misery" in some ways. EVB showed up early with her crew and we went downstairs to talk to Bobby Steele, who was also at the convention. Jerry and Doyle arrived late, so there wasn't much happening in the Misfits area for a few hours. I did get to meet Bile666 from the mailing list as well as a guy from New York named Adam C (do you remember him from CMU, Teevie?). A lot of the day, Jerry and Doyle were in the dungeon room filming interviews for the upcoming "Chiller Theatre" movie series, so they were unavailable to the fans. I spent a lot of this time walking around and talking to Bobby or looking for Eerie Von who was also in the crowd somewhere. Also in the crowd somewhere was Brian Payne, who was in the Undead about 15 years ago. Around 5pm, Bobby randomly decided to go upstairs to talk to Jerry and Doyle. EVB and I were there with our cameras ready and managed to take a good deal of pictures of this reunion. This was basically the second time that they had exchanged any sort of words since 1980. It was very historic. After Bobby left, we took a lot of pictures of the now complete four member band and then it was time for another interview session and the doors were closed for filming. Soon after that, the convention ended. So, it was a lot of fun. I got to see a handful of the super-fiends who basically show up all over the place for these Misfits get-togethers. Bobby gave me some Undead interviews and an Undead shirt which I'll give to someone on this mailing list. Mike Graves (the new singer) is a very cool guy and looks good with the band. Much like Glenn was, he's shorter than the rest of the guys, and young looking. I have a lot of extras from the convention. Chud gave me a few copies of his album with his other band Sacred Trash and I picked up a lot of shirt order forms. Hopefully I'll be able to scan the order form and some of the pictures up for the page. Here's a run-down on the new shirts (all $15 each): 1) Doyle shirt, artwork by Jurek, with purple Misfits logo, double sided 2) Jerry shirt, artwork by Jurek, with blue Misfits logo, doubled sided. This one's very cool. 3) Max's X-mas shirt, artwork by Basil Gogos, double sided 4) New Skull '95 shirt, artwork by Jurek with red Misfits logo, double sided - I really like this one, it's got a front view of the the Crimson Ghost in a hood. 5) Glow-go Skull - this one's almost exactly like the Crimson Ghost shirt from last convention. It has the Crimson Ghost skull on both sides and a green Misfits logo on front. The only difference is that it glows. 6) Ghostriders - artwork by Ed Repka (the guy who does Vic Rattlehead for Megadeth), light blue logo, double sided. This features the Crimson Ghost riding a horse-drawn carriage through a graveyard with a full moon in the background. Cool, but very similar to Megadeth stuff. Other news ---------- They'll still be playing with Type-O Negative on Monday and Tuesday night. They'll come out for the first encore and perform. There are some changes though. Mike Graves will be singing, instead of the guitarist from Type-O, so this will theoretically be our first chance to see a public performance of the current lineup. I also picked up at copy of Chiller Theatre #3, a magazine that was distributed at the convention. It's got a pretty lengthy interview with Jerry and includes a lot of unreleased pictures. It also has a review of the different Misfits models currently for sale. I was suprised to notice one thing. Near the end of the article is a cool Misfits family tree drawing with all the Misfits members and the length of time they were in the band. It has the Crimson Ghost holding the members on strings as if they were puppets. However, some of the dates are incorrect. They were taken from an old version of my discography that I sent to Jerry almost 2 years ago. This interview was very similar to the Ugly Things #12 interview with Jerry from almost 2 years ago. Ugly Things #14 is now out and features some more info on The Misfits. For copies, send $6 to Mike Stax/Ugly Things 405 W. Washington ST #237 San Diego, CA 92103 Mike might have back issues of #12 and #13, both of which featured a lot of Misfits stuff. That's all for now. mark ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 17:17:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: new guy on the list Hey fiends, OK I'm the new guy on the list, I'm Joe Kenney, age 21, and I'm at senior at Salem-Teikyo University. I first heard the Misfits I think in 1988 because I had Metallica's Garage Days Re-revisited and decided to hear the original source of their cover of Green Hell, so I went out and got Earth AD. From then on I was a Misfits fan. Now it seems like everyone is, which is pretty cool; they're finally getting the credit they deserved 13 years ago. Recently I've decided to get my collection of Misfits on vinyl so I'm getting Legacy, Walk and Live NOTLD 10 inches. One thing I'm looking for....and maybe you guys can help me: where can I get a video of the show on 10/31/82 at the NA Community Center in Bethlehem, PA? Anyone have any copies I can copy? Also, what exactly is the Creepy Collection video: what is on it? Anyone have that one as well? Lastly, is the new Misfits album coming out on Halloween? This Tuesday I'll be looking for it just in case. And I can't wait to get my hands on the Collection II lp! OK, I kept it short. It's great to see all you fans out there! Later, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 18:08:03 -0500 From: Gala@cris.com (Daniel) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #115 >I just wanted to say that I think it's wonderful that Glenn >"remixed" a lot of the Static Age stuff. I'm sure his personal >touch will really spice things up a bit. I trimble in utter fear >at the notion of Jerry and Doyle playing around with it. I'm >terribly sorry if my opinion pisses everyone off but hey, I said >it was my opinion ! Not yours! So don't let it upset you too much. > > tECHNO dESTRUCTO > >WDE Your opinion doesnt piss me off too much, but I do feel that if Glenn remixes some of the stuff, then it really isnt the Misfits, Jerry and Doyle were the ones who played for the Misfits, Glenn just sang and wrote songs. -------------------------------- Creator of Misfits Book program thanks to Mark Kennedy Misfits Book (C)Copyright 1995 Mark Kennedy ------------------------------ From: REAGANPR@vax1.acs.jmu.edu Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 23:35:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Static Age Hey fiends! Just thought I would tell you something interesting. Saturday I was at a mall in Harrisonburg looking for CD's. Out of curiosity I got on the computer and looked up the misfits (ya know...ta see if Collection II was listed). Collection II wasn't listed but the recently cancelled Static Age album was! I got a printout and ordered the CD just to see what would happen. I should find out that the title is not available in three weeks but oh well.....I'll post another notice when I find out. ------------------------------ From: "Gen. Nusiance" Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 21:55:24 EST (GMT-5) Subject: Ninjas Homepage The Ninjas, THE Misfits cover band from Evansville, In, are now on the web...to see the mayhem that is the Ninjas, load the URL: http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~pcjr/ninjas/brucelee.htm Thanks to Peter Chien for posting the page on his system for me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Punk rock isn't just an art form...it's a great way to make interesting friends.(tee-hee) "I wanna be white trash, I wanna live in a trailer park. I wanna be white trash, I wanna drive a red Camaro" -The Ninjas (White Trash) Mark Nance -mnance@marsh.vinu.edu Ninja's Homepage- http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~pcjr/ninjas/brucelee.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 07:41:58 -0500 From: Gary LaRue Subject: BOXED SETS FIENDS, I'M JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEA ABOUT PRICES ON THE MISFITS AND SAMHAIN BOXED SETS. I KNOW THAT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE, BUT SOMEONE SOMEWHERE SHOULD KNOW. ALL MURDER, ALL GUTS, ALL FUN!!!!!! THE EVIL EYE ------------------------------ From: LeSTaT Subject: Misfits Imp. Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 12:35:55 -0600 (CST) >i recently got the "Singles 77-82"CD bootleg (10$!), and i think it's pretty >good. The thing that bugs me, though, is that a lot of the tracks have >1-2 seconds missing at the beginning. that's really obnoxious. >is the Beware and the rest CD any better? I picked that one up also.... but the fucking bastards at the place i got it from charged me a pretty penny.... but i got a free "Collection ][" poster for buying it. Seems that in my town, there's only 3 or 4 hard-core misfits fans.... sure, there's people that like them, and have an album or 2, but people that are into getting boots, vinyls, and such are hard to come buy... too bad, i would like to do some trading..... but anyway, as far as that boot goes, i was kinda upset also about the beginnings of some of the songs missing.... but it still is cool... Them putting Evilive on cd kinda made me happy, i was sick of whipping out the tape to listen to 138w/rollins.... LeSTaT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 07:46:54 -0500 From: Gary LaRue Subject: HALLOWEEN FIENDS, IF THIS IS TUESDAY IT MEANS THAT ITS THE GREATEST HOLIDAY OF ALL, HALLOWEEN. WHEN ALL THE GHOULS, ZOMBIES, AND DEMONS COME OUT TO PLAY AND ALL OF THE THINGS OF THE UNEXPLAINED NATURE HAPPEN. I JUST WANT TO SAY HAPPY DEVILS NIGHT TO ALL AND TO ALL A BLOODY NIGHT. THE EVIL EYE ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:40:49 -0500 Subject: Box Is the Samhain box coming out today? (Halloween), or no? Chris ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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THE UNDEAD Suscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:08:47 -0500 From: Daniel Subject: Halloween If anyone cares, I will be dressed as Jerry for halloween tommorow when I go out, and I will be bringing my accoustic guitar and playing the following Misfits songs while I "trick or treat"..... Return of the Fly Some Kinda Hate All Hell Breaks Loose Last Caress and I will probably play "Rise Above" by Black Flag too.... and maybe "Louie Louie" just if I get bored.... anyway, it should be good fun... anyone who went to the Type O show, Email me, I want to know how it went since I couldnt go... Anyone have ANYTHING to sell?? CD's, LP's, Posters, magazines, etc.... I will buy them if they have anything to do with the Misfits... -------------------------------- Creator of Misfits Book program thanks to Mark Kennedy Misfits Book (C)Copyright 1995 Mark Kennedy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:38:23 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Flemming Subject: THX1138 > From: She > Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #115 > It has nothing to do with sex. and nothing to do with ages, > or anything else for that matter. Everyone should go check out > the movie. It sounds somewhat interesting. Actually a lot of the movie has to do with sex...but that is a different story. After all the shit my friend Ryq had to go through to get a copy of THX1138 I expected something at least a tad bit stimulating...WRONG! I spent 3/4 of the movie trying to remove my eye with a blunt pencil and the other 1/4 concentrating on digesting the remnants of Ryq's Mom's frozen taquitos. Face it, the coolest part of the movie is watching this android guy get beaten with a stick (which BTW is where the NIN sample at the beginning of "Mr. Self Destruct" comes from). I'm still recovering from the mental scars of watching it...eh...now Ishtar...that was a movie ;) /| __ ___ ___ __ |\ ******************************| -- -^ \_/ ^- -- |****************** * morrigu@uclink.berkeley.edu \ ---_ _--- / * * & ----^\| _>_<_ |/^---- Robert Flemming * * rflemmin@ced.berkeley.edu / --- / \ --- \ * ************************************\__/| -^- |\__/************************ \ MMM / ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: re: old argument Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:51:13 -0500 (EST) well for the most part i agree with the ghost here. i listen to whatever and if someone don't like it? well i don't listen to it for them, ya know. but bringing in the other side, isn't what your doing, saying that he can't be seletive, for lack of better word, isn't that just as bad as him? i agree that there are many people who only listen to one thing, and hate everything, and anyone who doesn't follow them, but isn't that their right too? also about your trivia, well i don't know about you other guys in college, but it just happened to occur during the 2 week stretch when most of my midterms are, so i wasn't thinking about much else. later -- Paul Hahn hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu Patrick Stottlymyer: http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul A beacon of hope for ugly check out the Speedball Homepage desperate fat women. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 02:00:53 -0500 From: Zodiac Subject: Samhain and Satanism Fiends, This is my first post on this list so try to avoid the hate-mail. I just wished to respond to the guy in the last bible who wrote "Glenn is a self-righteous asshole and Samhain and Danzig are just a sideshow for Satan freaks". Perhaps Glenn is a self-righteous asshole (I would imagine anyone who gives their band a salary while they collect all the royalties would be), but as for Samhain being satanic? Who told you this, Jimmy Swaggart? Samhain is not satanic. The word Samhain is what the Celts called Halloween long before the Christians ever hit the shores of Britain. Because they were a nature worshipping religion, they believed that at the end of October, when the harvest was over and all plants died, the ghosts of the dead would rise again to walk the earth, seeking the warmth of the bonfires the Celts lit in their honor. They did perform human sacrifices and other rituals many Christians see as "satanic", which is possibly where you get this idea from, but Satan (as we know him) is essentially a christian invention, not a pagan one. As for what "4p" means, it is a reference to The Process Church of the Final Judgement, a satanic cult responsible for the "Son of Sam" killings, the Manson Family killings, as well as hundreds of other homocides across the North American continent (refer to Maury Terry's "The Ultimate Evil" for more info. This book was the reason the DA of New York reopened the "Son of Sam" case, stating it was obvious Berkowitz did not act alone). The Process' symbol was 4 p's intesecting each other in a swastika-like design. Read the book, it is..."pretty deep." Thanks for listening to me ramble on. I just get pissed off when self-righteous christians keep insisting Halloween is satanic and pagan, etc., etc. They kind of remind me of the nation of Islam. Later, Zodiac ====================================== "To Serve Man" - IT'S A COOKBOOK! ====================================== This message brought to you by Zodiac. E-Mail: abbadon@idirect.com ====================================== ...in the end, we all know what we've done. ====================================== ------------------------------ From: Stewart Gallacher <9243471g@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Subject: LORDS OF THE LEFT HAND Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:56:51 +0000 (GMT) In an interview from Clyde 1 radio which I got a tape of recently, Glenn is talking about how Hitler was a Satanist. He says that Hitler used to send out squads of people to find biblical artefacts and that these bands of followers were known as "The Lords of the Left Hand"- i suppose this is what the song of the same name from "Final Descent" is all about. One thing which I could never understand is why Danzig never seemed to play any of the material from the first 5 songs on "Final Descent" live. I know the material wasn't actually released until 1990 and so it would have been unknown to the audiences before that date, but it seems strange that even though on the first couple of tours they played a lot of stuff from "November..." this stuff which is IMHO closer to the Danzig style was ignored. I always thought that these 5 songs were the best things which Danzig did once John Christ was recruited- they remind me a bit of the 4p album, and certainly sound better produced than the 1st Danzig record from a year later which sounds a bit stiff by comparison. -Stewart Gallacher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 10:08:43 0000 From: Subject: (no subject) excellent page. i'm not on line enough to subscribe to the mailing list, but i've been monitoring it from the page. had a few comments (and these are made assuming they've probably already been brought up, but just in case . . .) --as far as a new Misfits singer goes, has anyone heard of a New York band called Clowns for Progress? (yeah, seriously). I've only heard one of their songs (on the latest Flipside comp, although they have a full-length album out). I don't know if they really dress up like clowns at every gig, but their singer has a voice that's as close to early Misfits Danzig as I've ever heard. Frightening, actually. Someone should get in touch with that guy. --is everyone aware that there's a Misfits tribute album in the works? (also on Caroline). Last I heard, the bands hadn't been nailed down, although NOFX had expressed interest, and the Mighty Mighty Bosstones had been asked to do it. Also, in recent cover activity, a California band called Buck-O-Nine do a half ska, half punk version of "Teenagers from Mars" on their album "Barfly" (Taang! records). --Found a still photo from "The Crimson Ghost" in an old film book, but has anyone ever seen the movie,or have any idea where it might be commercially (leagally or illegally) available? --and lastly, for Mark: i'm a rock critic by trade here at the Boston Phoenix, and at some point (most likely not until the Misfits box comes out) i'll be doing a feature on all the re-issue stuff. I thought it might be cool to get a few quotes from you, and i'd also be interested in talking to the um, new-old Misfits when they solidify a line-up (the press gal at Caroline has a great story about them wandering into the office in full garb. Her quote: "they really want to get signed again.") Anyway, if you're interested, drop me a line and hopefully we can set something up. thanks for yer time -- and once again, thanks for a truly amazing page. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:28:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bryan M. Gruda" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #116 Fiends, I want the 77-82 cd bootleg but I can't find it here in Syracuse. Will someone please make me a tape. I'll pay for the shipping and I'll even send you a tape to record it on. Please help me out. Bryan -(the jackal)- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:14:07 -0500 (EST) From: In Darkness There Is No Choice Subject: Crimson Ghost & Rage Against the Machine - another opinion I am going to step out of the shadows and announce myself as the one who wrote to the crimson ghost about the band Rage Against the Machine. If you recall he quoted my line "FUCK YOU WE GET OUR PAYCHECKS FROM SONY..." in the last issue of the bible. Anyway... I would like to present my argument, and I apologize for the off-topic nature of this debate. Rage Against The Machine (herein referred to as RATM or Rage) are a bunch of complete fucking hypocrites. They speak of revolution while sucking so much corporate cock that they're on a fucking Sony record label and have videos out on MTV. Their messages are great, in some cases... brilliant. (Leonard Peltier for instance...) However, it's hard to sing about social and political change when your lips are wrapped around the collective penis that is the Sony corporation. Also, when I saw them in November of 1993, they shattered another of their own illusions... they were using synthesizers and other equipment to make their music, something which they vehemently denied in the liner notes of their CD. Now you can like the music, you can like the lyrics, and I can understand why. But one thing you can't like is the politics of RATM. Revolution is supposed to be a DIY (do it yourself) effort, carried out independently of the very ones who would keep us in chains (the big corporations like sony). And going on MTV? You might as well cut your own balls off. I would surely kill myself before making a "revolutionary" album and having a video from it appear in the MTV top ten. There are other, more respectable ways to reach the masses, and you don't have to sell out to do so, unfortunately Rage did. -- Valgamon Food Not Bombs New Haven 800-241-7337 ext 1673# PGP Keyprint: 89 66 DE 00 B5 20 49 0F 24 59 76 05 BA FC 45 70 (ID 8D542C89) "The government has fucked us, what a big surprise..." - Aus Rotten Autonomy, Equality and Peace. . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:33:06 -0500 (EST) From: eRiC sNoOk Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #116 Well, today is Halloween, folks, so I thought I'd make a post. But then again, all of you guys will read this on Thursday, so it's a belated Happy Halloween... Someone in the last issue (sorry, I can't remember who) said they looked up Misfit's stuff on a computer (I'm assuming a MUSE machine) to find stuff out about the new release stuff. I work at Best Buy (send all flames and mockery to snook@umich.edu about my job) and here's the skinny on what *we* have... Teenagers from Mars..... CD single --- No relase date Static Age . . . . . . . CD LP --- no relesae date $19.95 Collection II . . . . . .CD LP --- Nov 7, can't remember price At Best Buy, we have a few Purchase Orders put in for Collection II, so it looks like this will be out. Caroline Distributing has catalog numbers for TAFM and Static Age, so there's hope that Static Age will come out. There was no catalog numbers or Puchase Orders for any boxed set. There also was no listing for a Samhain boxed set. So, if Samhain is supposed to come out this Halloween, our Caroline distributor ain't got it... Keeping my fingers crossed... .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:58:50 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: #116, glenn/misfits Sorry if I sound rude in some cases...if you respond to this, keep in mind: read my whole spiel. To Robert G McFeaters: I used to play around with my calculator during math to see what are factors/multiples etc of 138, and also came up with 69...obviously we were wrong as to the significance of the song title, but you weren't alone. To Crimson Ghost: Don't worry, that kid (hopefully) will mature someday. I personally have no time for the music industry and most of the people involved in it...there are too many important things to deal w/that crap. Anyone who cares enough about MTV's song choices or what is "hot" is a fucking loser..even more so to stop liking something because others do. For the record, I think the whole rebellion idea of metal, punk etc is childish. If people ask me what the Misfits played, I say punk, but I don't really consider them punk. Their songs had nothing to do w/the subject matter of other punk bands, and they looked different also (not that it should matter...but that shows you how trivial and immature the idea of punk was...as if it matters what you wear or what your hair looks like in regards to what you have to say) This is not to dump on any punk or punk fans, but I don't think the Misfits should be reduced to that level. Anyone who has hated Danzig since "Mother" got popular should grow up; same goes for anyone who dumps the Misfits *IF* and when they get popular because of their reincarnation. To MisfitKev: After five years of this, I don't usually like to respond to Glenn-bashers, but just consider this: you talked to Glenn for maybe 5 minutes. By your message he didn't come across as particularly rude. You have no idea what he was doing before you met him; for all you know his father could have been shot and he was in a bad mood (unlikely, of course.) Anyway, the point is FOR ALL OF YOU: don't be so quick to call Glenn an asshole...you don't know him. He seemed damn nice when I met him, but that is also insufficient to judge him. Yes, we all know of his temper and his problems w/his many bandmates over the years...don't you have any friends whom some of your other friends dislike? I know I sure do. I think it's safe to say EVB knows Glenn better than anyone else on the Bible...she sure seems to have no problems w/him. Of all the Glenn-haters on this list who don't even know Glenn, perhaps only CG truly knows what he is talking about, since he has a close relationship w/the Caiafa family. Put it this way: I "hate" G'n'R and Axl Rose, but I wouldn't be rude if I met him, because,personally, he could turn out to be the nicest guy in the world. Save your judgments until you actually know Glenn (or anyone else). As far as the Satanism goes...that's bullshit. I DON'T mean this as a "flame" but Glenn has often said people w/this interpretation are "dumb" and simply don't want to look into his ideas more deeply. I must confess (WITHOUT TRYING TO FLAME YOU) that I agree w/ him. To Jackson: track 66 on Danzig 4p is "Invocation" (you'll likely get 100 responses to that question) To BT5211: I assume your referring to me (Re: the Doors). I said Glenn doesn't copy JM as much as people think; even then his "copying" depends HEAVILY or your definition of the word. I will always maintain that Glenn is better....BTW I have heard "The Spy" (and obviuosly "She Rides")...I am puzzled why you mentioned this, since many other Danzig and Doors songs (to me) show more of a similarity than these two do. (like "Devil's Plaything"). Anyway... To all of you (but mainly to Mark): If there is anyone I don't want to "flame" it's you...but I find it odd to say that "Mephisto Waltz" is not the Misfits, and that today's lineup is. I realize you only mean that a lineup of Samhain probably recorded it, but if Glenn wants to call it "The Misfits", it is. Far be it from me to challenge the new President of the Fiend Club, Mark, but... Glenn is w/out any doubt the essential ingredient...anyone could have played bass, and of course numerous people played guitar and drums from '77-83. Glenn's voice and songwriting are not expendable. I mean no disrespect to Jerry, but Glenn WAS the Misfits. He wrote everything, and was the most talented of all members (ie: his singing is better than Robo's drumming) Again, no insult to Jerry is intended. Next time all you guys want to flame Glenn Danzig, remember that none of these songs would even exist if not for him. In all 3 bands, he is the driving (if not the only) creative force. This may indicate to all of you that he thinks he's perfect and doesn't need John Christ's ideas, or that this is the underlying reason behind all the linup changes, etc, etc...and all this MAY be true...I for one wouldn't change this though, because we wouldn't have the same result...and the results he gets on his own are the best I've ever heard. This relates to my next response: To Gala (Daniel): What do you mean "Glenn *just* wrote and sang for the Misfits, Jerry and Doyle played for them" ????? Glenn did play on some songs (ie: guitar on "American Nightmare"), and Doyle wasn't even in the band until 1980 (? right year?). The music of the Misfits wasn't very complicated, so it's not like Jerry and Doyle performed any great feat or anything...besides, the music wouldn't exist in the first place if not for Glenn (I acknowledge any small contributions the other Misfits MAY have made during the recording process.) Had to get that all off my chest; hope I didn't waste your time. Brett "...truth is you only know the lies" ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:56:24 +0600 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #116 >I'd like to respond to the question regarding the meaning of >"138." As in "We Are 138." 138 divided by two is 69. Isn't >this an interesting number? 138 would be 4 people doing a 69. >I know it sounds ridiculous, but I couldn't think of anything >else. > >What do you all think? I think it's been said but the real reason has soehting to do with George Lucas' first film... bah, ask someone else. >I just got the newest Danzig album. For some reason i jumped >ahead and the numbers kept going up. The next song was number 66 >and it was this eerie organ and the guys singing/chanting. What >was i listening to? Invocation. I'm excited that the Misfits are playing tonight, too bad i'm living all the way in the midwest. oh, well... I'm sure some bootlegs will arise. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:06:50 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: Misfits Family Tree... Mark said the "family tree" in Chiller Theater #3 contained errors because it drew from an old version of his own discography! Ain't it funny playing "telephone" with the world? I remember a few years ago before the Misfits Bible came and sorted out all us online fiends once and for all, I saw several of my own mis-interpretations of Misfits lyrics flying through the net right back at me!! I missed the chance to do it on Tuesday, so HAPPY HALLOWEEN, CHARLIE BROWN! Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 05:47:58 -0500 From: Gary LaRue THANX FOR THE INFO, FELLOW FIENDS. I JUST NEED TO OPEN MY EYES. #116 WAS A GREAT HALLOWEEN ISSUE. HOPE IT'S STILL RUNNIN NEXT YEAR. ANY WORD ON THOSE GLOW IN THE DARK TEES. THE EVIL EYE ------------------------------ From: Stewart Gallacher <9243471g@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Subject: THE MISFITS Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:53:17 +0000 (GMT) Personally, I think a lot of people have been trying to do down Glenn Danzig's contribution to the Misfits lately. I think the essence of the Misfits, as Jerry himself has said, is that he and Glenn were a team. In my opinion, without either one of them, the band can't be the Misfits. I have nothing against Jerry and Doyle putting a band together to play the songs again, but it really isn't the same band in the same way that a line-up put together say between Glenn and Bobby Steele (rather unlikely!!!) would not be the Misfits. Glenn, in my opinion, was the main writing force behind the Misfits both musically and lyrically. I'm not saying that the other band members contribution was nil- I'm sure they helped with arrangements and the like, but even Jerry himself acknowledged this to some extent in the interview in Ugly Things where he talked about how Glenn would bring the songs down and give them the chords then the band would work this into the finished song. I have the utmost respect for Jerry and Doyle- they are obviously very committed to the music- and I'm pleased that they are pressing to get more Misfits stuff released. It just seems like a shame that Jerry and Glenn can't put their differences aside and work together for the good of the Misfits name- they managed it while the band was together, after all. I think it was a very bad idea for Jerry and Doyle to overdub the tracks which would have made up the live Xmas album. I know they argue that this was necessary and that Glenn did something similar on "Legacy...", but the essence (at least to me) of a live album that the music is exactly as it was recorded live. I think if they hadn't done this the album would probably have made it out and would have been absolutely great. I know they said that the sound wasn't up to scratch on the original tape, but surely there are other tapes they could have used in order to keep it live. As another Bible contributor stated recently, I'm a bit concerned that Caroline are just going to put all the existing Misfits material together for the boxed set and just stick in the new Static Age record. To my mind a boxed set like this is aimed at existing fans who will already own the regular CD releases, and a boxed set should be something special which people will not have. Personally, I'd like to see a package which includes some Misfits on video, as this is one area in which fans are forced to rely on bootlegs. I'd also like to seen a full length Misfits show on audio included. If things like EARTH AD are to be included then lets at least have a remixed version like the one Jerry said he rated so highly from the original tape of the session. It would be nice if Caroline could put together a package which included all the singles in their original forms- ie. original artwork, etc., but this seems unlikely with the release of Collection II plus the commercial dominance of the CD. Lets at least hope that the set is good and that it offers as much as possible to the fans. Please note that despite any criticism levelled at Jerry and Doyle here, I really hope that things do work out for them. At least with the new band the great Misfits music will be getting played again, and that can only be good. My main bone of contention is simply that that if the new Misfits put out their own material under the Misfits name, the music just won't be the same- in the same way that when Glenn formed Samhain their new material couldn't be considered as "Misfits" material. Anyway, I look forward to the release of Collection II and anything else planned for the future. Does anyone out there have any news on the Samahin boxed-set? Or what Glenn's been up to lately-any news on replacements? -Stewart P.S. thanks to all those who have helped me out with my collection lately- especially Evan O'Brien and Chris Ternes- Thanks. ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #116 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:50:40 -0500 (EST) > From: st930419@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (Andrew Share) > > he got drunk with the Necros one night. But anyway, I got a copy of a > radio show from Harvard from around 1984. It was a two hour tribute to the Not 1984, it was May 13, 1986. > From Brett Fama About your lyrics to Die Die, I think you're right on and next time I upload the lyrics to the page, you'll see your corrections up there. > From ???? How do you joine the Fiend Club? Come on ..... The address is at the end of every issue of this mailing list. just send them a letter with your name, address and phone number and they'll add you to the mailing list. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 19:07:34 -0500 (EST) From: 02tjthompson@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Collection II advance ordering I just got off of CDNow and they have a pre-release sale on Collection II if you are looking for a place to find it. They have it on sale for $10.78 vinyl, $13.96 CD, and $8.98 cassette. (plus shipping...about 2 bucks) Just thought I'd pass it along... Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 19:02:21 -0500 From: She Subject: Tuesday's Show As we all know, the Misfits were supposed to play at The Chance in Poughkeepsie, NY on Monday night and then again at the Roseland in New York City on Tuesday night. Well, they did. Monday night they did the three songs I was originally told they would: Astro Zombies, 20 Eyes, Vampira These 3 songs featured Mike Graves of The Misfits and the guitarist from Type-O Negative sharing vocals. Chud played drums. Tuesday night, they did those 3 songs with Type-O guitarist singing and then Mike came out and joined them for All Hell Breaks Loose. Because they were using Type-O's equipment, Doyle's guitar didnt' come out very well and they were disappointed with that performance. Both shows, as well as the Coney Island show, were videotaped. Next, they headed over to Coney Island High School, where everything was disorganized. The people from the club were charging $20 at the door, even though the flyers from the Horror Convention advertised it for free. Apparently the Coney Island people were including the Murphy's Law show as part of the ticket price and when Jerry talked to them about it they said that if they let people in for free, it would over-crowd and be a fire hazard. So Jerry was in a tough place - either go in and have everyone pay $20, or don't go at all and disappoint the people (like me) who came out to see them. On top of that, Murphy's Law was supposed to be done by about midnight and they were still onstage around 1:30 am when the Misfits showed up. The poster situation went wrong too. About 30 minutes before the band showed up, two of the guys from Sardonica drove up and dropped off 2 boxes of about 1000 posters each by the door. The Coney Island people weren't around to distribute them so a lot got carried off by the small group of fans outside. When the Misfits got there, they weren't given the markers for autographs that Coney Island had promised them, so they didn't sign the posters. Some time around 1:30 in the morning Jerry and Doyle showed up, followed soon afterwards by Mike and Chud and the rest of the Misfits crew. At this point most of the people outside ran over to get autographs and then gave up the arguments with the Coney Island people and handed over $20. Unfortunately (for me at least) Murphy's Law was still playing and the lead singer proceeded to ridicule Jerry and Doyle and their models. Finally they left the stage and the Static Age album was played at full blast. A curtain had been pulled across the stage and it became obvious that behind the curtain, the Misfits were setting up their equipment. When the curtain was removed, they announced that they were going to do requests. The crowd went wild. Mike Graves looked great. In my opinion, his devilock is "better" than Jerry and Doyle's. He was an excellent frontman and it looked as if he had been practicing by watching videos of old Misfits shows. He had all the Glenn moves and was very active onstage. His voice was surprisingly close to Glenn's and he sang all the songs very well. The set list was: Attitude * 20 Eyes * Horror Hotel * Ghouls Night Out * Bullet We Are 138 * Halloween At this point, Mike left the stage and Sal B from Sardonica took over on vocals. Sal sang with Jerry and Doyle for3 years before they started auditioning and found Mike. The original plan for the Halloween party was for them to join Sardonica onstage with Sal singing and maybe finish the set with Mike, and that's why had Sal sing a few songs. Sal definitely wasn't made for the Misfits. He's a shouter, along the lines of hardcore stuff, and it didn't sound right. He also didn't have the look. Horror Business * Static Age * TV Casualty Luckily, Sal gave the microphone back to Mike and he called out the next song - "Come Back". In my opinion, this song or "Hollywood Babylon" would have been the ultimate test of his voice. "Come Back" is one of my favorite Misfits tunes and it features Glenn using all sorts of vocal powers. Mike did it about as close to perfect as you can do it. Come Back * All Hell Breaks Loose * Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight? So there you go. 13 songs. It was great. A full Misfits set. I know I've already probably said enough about how great Mike was, but it's true. He looks great with the band. He's short and small just like Glenn was and he has the complete horror devilock Misfits look. However, this was not their return show. This was just a warmup. If you weren't there, don't worry. There'll be more later. After this, the band left. They were angry with the club for charging $20 and the fact that everything was disorganized. Coney Island probably took in a lot of $$ and the Misfits didn't get a penny from it since it was supposed to be free. Other stuff.... Bobby was hanging out before the Halloween party. I talked to him for a while and when I told him that Jerry and Doyle weren't coming until around 1:30 in the morning, he decided to go home. It was nice to see him again though. I also made a few new friends and had the chance to meet Mozzer from this mailing list. The Static Age posters are killer. I take back whatever I said about them before. I love them. In theory, I could have grabbed that entire huge box for everyone on the mailing list, but I didn't. I did grab a few handful those, so I'm going to have to think of a clever way to give stuff out without disappointing people. At this point I have Static Age posters, Sacred Trash albums, an Undead shirt and some odds and ends to give out. I'll try to do some sort of contest like The Crimson Ghost did. So, I'll answer everyone's next question: When will they play next? Jerry told me this morning that he's going to try and book the Chance in Poughkeepsie NY (where they played Monday) around Christmas and people from the Bible will get to reserve seats ahead of time. They will be writing new material to play at this show. At this time they have no new Misfits material, although they do have unreleased Kryst The Conqueror songs that they might change for Misfits shows. I'm not sure if this show will definitely be occuring, but if you're interested, please email me your name and address and I'll store it until he wants the list. You'll still have to pay but this will just guarantee you a ticket. Don't get too excited about this. It's only an idea and might not happen. Also, Jerry said that the Collection II album will be out on the 7th of November. I was originally told by Caroline that it was coming out on the 14th, but they might have changed their minds. So be on the lookout. mark ------------------------------ From: REAGANPR@vax1.acs.jmu.edu Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 19:34:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Misfits in NYC Hey fiends! I made it to New York with Mark and Will the other day to see the Misfits. I think that I got some pretty good shots of the band, so if anyone who didn't make it wants pictures, please contact me. This depends on whether the pictures turn out alright. However, I will ask for some $$$ to cover only the photocopying cost. Pat ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 20:49:35 EDT Subject: Re: misfits bible....the return of GoatboyAK attn: fiends.. i need some info..hopefully you can help me.. i need the date and location of the Misfits-"Ambionic Recording Session" it is a studio rehearsal.. i also need the actual date of the "Live 79 the perfect crime" boot 7"..i know that it took place in august of 79, but does anyone know the actual date.. i also need the date of the misfits "rehaersal at the Pit, in lodi,nj" i know that it was some time in 1981... i need the actual date of the Samhain "last gasp" boot 7".. the song that was recorded at the jockey club..what date was it, i know it took place in october of 85..does anyone know the date..because it was not listed in the tour list in the home page..of samhain... i guess thats about it for now...i hope evryone had fun at the kisfits show last nite..you bastards..i envy you soooo.. .....all that cross me, will pay dearly..... later f(r)iends- love goat- a.k.a. adam kriney ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 21:13:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: when static age Hey, everybody. Next album is tomorrow and I hope to hear some cool stories about the show and the convention! So since everyone'll be concentrating on everyone's lettere about all that stuff I'll keep my letter short. First of all, do any of the boot videos have the video for "Skulls" on them? I read on the homepage that a video for that exists. Also, Compilation II has all the songs from the records that weren't reissued, like Beware, right? But from what I've read the new Comp's songs seem to be redubbed. What boots cds or records have the originals on them? I've seen an ad for one boot called All the Hits 1978-1982; is that the one with all the songs? Also I read about one boot with those songs plus Evilive, which boot is that? Anyone know of anywhere that I can order these boots, cause all the companies I know of just handle bands like NIN and Jane's Addiction and stuff like that. Also, is Ugly Things #12 still available? I have to write Mike Stax and ask him, right, but what is his address? This seems like a lot of questions from an idiot but when it comes to Misfits boots and hard to find 12 or 7 inches I'm clueless. But as for the officially released albums I know 'em back and forth. So when will Static Age be released? And how can I get it on lp instead of cd? Shit I just read my first sentence I mean tomorrow is next bible, not next catalog. Sorry about that. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I've been reading all the back issues of this and they're all pretty damn informative. Lots of time's people brought up the issue of their fave songs: so I'll add my 2 cents and call it a night: Misfits: 1. Astro-Zombies (am I the only one that thinks this song kicks?) 2. Hate Breeders 3. We Bite 4. Everything else Samhain: 1. Mother of Mercy 2. Samhain 3. Diablos '88 Danzig: 1. Can'tspeak 2. Twist of Cain 3. Mother (I admit I like the song, who cares if MTV played it a lot) OK guys that's it for now.....next time I'll get your input on a comic I'm thinking about submitting to Verotik. Later, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:39:42 -0500 (EST) From: "mr. pink" Subject: maxs x-mas i got the maxs x-mas shirt for my fiend! it rules!!! anyway, i bought it from some shop in NYC and it smells really bad. sucks! pinky m i s t e r p i n k ! * * * * * * * * * * * e-lon sXe--- =>wilsb5r0@numen.elon.edu<= reservoir dogzz (eddy & me) ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:44:32 -0500 Subject: some comments... Hey, I'm really looking forward to hearing the Compilation II CD--particularly all the "non-Misfits" tunes! If Glenn has re-mixed, re-recorded the stuff, I'm sure that it will be GREAT! (yup, I have to agree with TEK on this one). Also, I have to agree with the fellow (B.M. Fama?) who said that they're Glenn's songs--more power to him for doing what he wants with them. Too bad he (apparently) no longer has control over certain recordings or the 'Fits name. [Just my opinion you understand!] Hmm..it seems that Jerry & Co. seem to be expending a lot of energy complaining about the stuff to be released (read: songs that Glenn wrote), and a number of people seem to be of the opinion that Glenn was "only" the singer & songwriter, and that the band will be just as creative w/o him. So I'm wondering when J&D are going to be discussing/releasing the new songs that they've written? (They did say in a radio i/v that they have lots of stuff...?) Mark--they appear to be playing lots of tunes for you--what's the new stuff like? Just curious... "...all sound & fury signifying nothing..." ? Also, the Crimson Ghost's contest was sorta neat--I was going to send in my answers, but realized that the prize wasn't really that tempting...oh well! BTW, his points in the last issue about the indie vs. "big label" issue were well taken. ------------------------------ From: Geoffrey King Subject: bush... Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 12:38:56 -0500 (EST) i heard this really slow, new bush song on the alternative radio station that they play where i work. has anybody else heard it and thought "gee, this guitar line sounds like "skulls" played really slowly?" it sounds just like skulls played really slowly...really slowly. and nowhere near as good as skulls of course... seeya, geoff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:21:49 -0500 From: Gary LaRue Subject: THE UNDEAD WHO ALL WAS IN THE BAND "UNDEAD"? THE EVIL EYE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 20:39:36 -0800 From: Aaron Pacitti Subject: Suscribe This would be my first post on the Bible, and I must say that I didn't think that many people were into the Misfits. Pretty cool. Anyway, nice job Mark. I would like to say to the person who thinks Goatboy is trying to rip people off is psycho. He and I swapped some tapes and I got 6 different boots for $2.75. Does that sound like a rip to any anyone else...I didn't think so. He also sent me 6 photo copied pics for free just to be a nice guy, alot of which I'd never seen. Thanks bro. I've been trying to find that Creepy Compilation video everywhere and no store has even heard of it. So if there are any fiends who can copy it or get a hold of another, I will pay $top dollar$ for it. I MUST get it. If anyone can get it, e-mail me back and we'll discuss. Please!!!!!!!!!! I'm off, Martian ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Fiend Club | P.O. 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New Idea Buncha Stuff Sacred Trash MTV Commercial #117, Lords of the Left Hand POSTER CONTEST Collection II Misfits head north? Re: Misfits Bible, #117 Heylin's "Bootleg" book danzig's new life ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #117 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:02:40 -0500 (EST) > From: Zodiac > Samhain is not satanic. The word Samhain is what the Celts called Halloween > long before the Christians ever hit the shores of Britain. Because they > were a nature worshipping religion, they believed that at the end of > October, when the harvest was over and all plants died, the ghosts of the If anyone's interested, there's a paper I wrote for my philosophy class junior year in high school about Samhain on the page. It's in the articles section. > From: > > --as far as a new Misfits singer goes, has anyone heard of a New York > band called Clowns for Progress? (yeah, seriously). I've only heard one > of their songs (on the latest Flipside comp, although they have a > full-length album out). I don't know if they really dress up like clowns > at every gig, but their singer has a voice that's as close to early > Misfits Danzig as I've ever heard. Frightening, actually. Someone should > get in touch with that guy. Well, it's too late now. Mike Graves has the job. But interestingly enough, there was a flyer for one of their shows at Coney Island on Tuesday night. > --Found a still photo from "The Crimson Ghost" in an old film book, but > has anyone ever seen the movie,or have any idea where it might be > commercially (leagally or illegally) available? You should be able to get this movie at any good video rental place. It's available as a double cassette compilation of all 12 episodes or as a single edited colorized movie. > From: "B.M. Fama" > Subject: #116, glenn/misfits > > To all of you (but mainly to Mark): > If there is anyone I don't want to "flame" it's you...but I find > it odd to say that "Mephisto Waltz" is not the Misfits, and that today's > lineup is. I realize you only mean that a lineup of Samhain probably > recorded it, but if Glenn wants to call it "The Misfits", it is. Far be I usually don't enter arguments about who in the Misfits was essential and all that, but this one is too tempting. The Misfits were a band formed by Jerry and Glenn. Therefore both seem to have a right to the name. A song that is to be credited to the Misfits must be recorded by a band called the Misfits. Samhain is not the Misfits. Glenn is not the Misfits. At this time, Glenn is legally not a member of the band called The Misfits and he has no right to release anything pretending to be such. Opinions don't matter here. It's just a simple legal/common sense question. Is Glenn in the Misfits now? No. Were the Misfits present when "Mephisto Waltz" was recorded. No. Is Jerry in the Misfits now? Yes. Glenn also had no right to make misfits songs when the band was broken up, nor would Jerry have had a right, nor would I or anyone else. > Glenn is w/out any doubt the essential ingredient...anyone could have > played bass, and of course numerous people played guitar and drums from > 77-83. Glenn's voice and songwriting are not expendable. I mean no disrespect > to Jerry, but Glenn WAS the Misfits. He wrote everything, and was the Although Glenn may not be expendable in terms of song-writing, it's my opinion that Mike Graves does an excellent (although not perfect) job of meeting the expectations that we might have of Glenn's replacement. On top of this, go listen to any Misfits song (as if you haven't) and you'll hear Jerry's bass in there, often more than you will hear the guitar. It was the driving instrument of almost every song. Glenn and Jerry were the Misfits. I'm not saying that Glenn WASN'T essential. I'm just saying that Jerry was too, and that if the Misfits today can PERFORM Glenn's songs correctly without him (and with Mike) then they should be out there where we can all finally get to see them. Song writing is another thing, however... > From Stewart Gallacher > pressing to get more Misfits stuff released. It just seems like a shame > that Jerry and Glenn can't put their differences aside and work together > for the good of the Misfits name- they managed it while the band was > together, after all. Jerry and Glenn? No, it's just Glenn. He was invited back into the band many times and has only done everything he could to make it impossible for them to go on. Glenn is a musical genius, but not a very nice one. > From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu > > i need the date and location of the Misfits-"Ambionic Recording Session" > it is a studio rehearsal.. As always, the info is in the discography on the page. Fair Lawn Studio, Fair Lawn, NJ June 1981. Jerry does not know the date anymore and it wasn't necessarily recorded in one day. > > i also need the actual date of the "Live 79 the perfect crime" boot > 7"..i know that it took place in august of 79, but does anyone > know the actual date.. Only Bobby has the correct date and he's been looking for it for me. > > i also need the date of the misfits "rehaersal at the Pit, in lodi,nj" > i know that it was some time in 1981... Again, they don't remember the date any more. If they knew I'd have it up on the page. > i need the actual date of the Samhain "last gasp" boot 7".. > the song that was recorded at the jockey club..what date was it, > i know it took place in october of 85..does anyone know the > date..because it was not listed in the tour list in the > home page..of samhain... Samhain may or may not have played a show at the Jockey Club in October of 1985, so I didn't enter it into the tour list. I"m waiting until I'm positive that it's true. We all know how accurate bootlegs are.... k > From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu > First of all, do any of the boot videos have the video > for "Skulls" on them? I read on the homepage that a video A video was filmed but never released (as explained in the discography) and either Glenn or Jerry has the original footage. > for that exists. Also, Compilation II has all the songs from > the records that weren't reissued, like Beware, right? But No, no.... There are several songs that are left off. The version of "Night Of The Living Dead" from the Night Of The Living Dead single is so much better than the Walk Among Us version and that probably will never be released. Caroline really should put it out. Also the version of "Where Eagles Dare" from that same single is much better than the other versions on Legacy and the compilation album. The keyboard version of "She" and the REAL version of "Cough/Cool" might never make it to CD. > From: PDH1021@aol.com > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:44:32 -0500 > Subject: some comments... > > I'm wondering when J&D are going to be discussing/releasing the new songs > that they've written? (They did say in a radio i/v that they have lots of > stuff...?) Mark--they appear to be playing lots of tunes for you--what's the > new stuff like? Just curious... Jerry and Doyle are currently mainly interested in getting old music out to the fans and playing some shows. The new material will come later. Right now, they're just interested in playing for people who haven't been able to see the Misfits. As I said in the last issue, they do plan to work on some new material, but currently only have old Kryst The Conqueror tunes to work with. Don't worry, this doesn't mean they'll use those songs... > From: Gary LaRue > > WHO ALL WAS IN THE BAND "UNDEAD"? Bobby Steele. As usual, this and LOTS and LOTS and L OOOOOO TTTTTTT SSSSSS L O O T S L O O T SSSSSS L O O T S LLLLL OOOOOO T SSSSSS of information is available on the world wide web page. Almost every question that is ever asked on this mailing list has an answer that can be found on the page somewhere. I suggest everyone spend some time looking at it. I know I spend enough time working on it.... NOW- Does anybody remember a guy named Chris Eng from the mailing list back in the spring? He had a huge bootleg sale and I'm wondering if anyone still has his address. If so, please help me out. okay, i'm done mark ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 14:48:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: just junk questions Thanks for the show report mark. a few questions... who shot the videos at the shows? fans or the misfits crew? In other words how long will it be before they are available to us, officially or in bootleg form? i really want to see/hear mike and chud. What did the guy from murphys law saw about the misfits anyway? im curious? he's lucky he didn't get the holy shit beat out of him. Comp II nov. 7th thats cool. thanks jamil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 16:00:23 -0500 From: Matthew Paul Tomkiel This is my first post and I am looking for as much info on where to = find the best misfits shit. I especially want to find a good recording = of Last Caress. Also any tour info on Danzig or Type O would be = appreaciated. Thank You. By the way the Offspring and all the other = neuvo punk, sell-out, wanna-be misfits bands suck. Also, I wanted to ask = if anyone knew the meaning of the word Morrigu, which is a song on = Glen's orchastrated album Black Aria. Respond to me at = Tomkielma@urvax.urich.edu =09 Damion ------------------------------ From: Jesse Skam Subject: #117, Brett's message Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:33:20 GMT+0000 Brett, and anyone else who reads this message-- I'm with you all the way, not so much in your opinions of the bands/issues, but with the way you handled them. It seems that so many people are extremely quick to "flame", as you put it. I know that this doesn't pertain to the topic of the Misfits directly, but I think it is necessary to the bible. Too many people assume that when someone disagrees with their opinions, they are disrespecting them as a person. This is bullshit. The only way we can effectively exchange ideas and opinions is to listen to what others have to say, think about it, and then decide if we agree or not, WITHOUT TAKING IT PERSONALLY. All this aggression bullshit only prevents people from putting forth their ideas. I can't count how many people put up their first post with a disclaimer to protect them from being harrassed. Why is this necessary? It seems like many people are more interested in arguing than actually exchanging ideas and info. Layta', Jesse Skam ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Son of Skam fanzine --- POB 781 --- Granby, CT --- 06035 sonofskam@vwc.edu "The dog made us do it...." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: VernasBoy@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:32:41 -0500 Subject: Gregs homepage I just checked out Greg Peter's homepage. If you like cool drawings, check it out too. the URL is http://homepage.interaccess.com/~ols/ later --ThE bOy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:13:21 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: Varukers & Other Shit... i was listening to the soundtrack of UK/DK, a documentary about punks in the UK... anyway I heard a song that sounded JUST like Astrozombies in the intro. It's called "Soldier Boy" by the Varukers. This band's got a female singer. Anyway, I just thought it was interesting. And one or the other ripped that part off completely, cause it's the same drum beat, same guitar, everything... I don't know the date of the movie so who knows? Also, I'm excited to hear that the comp is coming out next week, though the station i work at hasn't got it yet. Oh well... Let's hope Static Age gets pushed up... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 15:49:17 -0500 From: Matthew Paul Tomkiel Subject: bootlegs Does Anyone have good quality bootlegs of the Misfits or Danzig? If so, I'm willing to buy them. E-mail me at Tomkielma@urvax.urich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:28:46 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Dycus Subject: HELP PLEASE... Just a few questions I hope someone can help me with: 1) Does anyone know if CDNOW is still selling those three Misfits boots? They were Heroes of Danzig, Kill Your Baby Today, and Evil is as Evil Does. These CD's don't show up in there catalog anymore and I'm worried I ordered them too damn late... 2) What happened to the Samhain box? Everyone seemed to be going apeshit over it (including me) and suddenly it's never been heard from again. 3) Just out of curiosity, where does "Left Hand Black" originate? Knowing Danzig, I assumed it was some cult who regarded the left hand as evil, or something to that effect... P.S. I'd just like to say that I got a kick out of what B.M.Fama and "In Darkness There Is No Choice" posted in the last issue. VERY entertaining and I agree completely. Right on, brother! (If you DIDN'T agree with what they said, please don't let this stop you from answering my questions if you can...) ED ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 19:45:50 -0500 Subject: stuff zodiac: you are exactly right! alot of people don't relize that glenn is not a satanist. he recognizes the existence of a god and satanism is a form of atheism. but what you said about samhain was right on and thanks for mentoning that. i suppose this is my real return since i haven't posted in a while. valgamon and stewart gallacher you guys had some good stuff to day too. i think the bibles are starting to head back to the right direction now. i find now i'm a little more open to the "new" misfits now. (although i don't completely agree with the idea!) but after hearing mark talk about the new singer i guess that made me think, what the hell. i just hope the new music isn't like the kryst stuff. i do have to say i find it hard to beleive that the collection 2 has songs on it that aren't the misfits. if he wanted to put out some samhain stuff he could always throw it on the samhain box set. but i suppose it's not impossable. but, thanks for the reports mark! and i'll let everyone's eyes go now. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 16:06:02 EDT Subject: Re: misfits bible....the return of GoatboyAK what is the address, phone number of CDNow...someone listed something about it selling the collection II, how can i contact them???? i really want to get it thanxx mucho guys!!! love goat- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark W. Russell" Subject: valgamon vs. crimson ghost On the whole Rage issue: I agree with crimson ghost that the best reason to listen to music is that it makes you feel good, not what record label it's on or whatever... Still, you gotta admit, any band that claims to be anti-corporation and revolutionary that is on the Sony payroll is pretty frigging hypocritical. Political themes can make for good music, because they make for strong emotions; but let's face it, the music may be enjoyable but it doesn't really change anything because the vast majority of fuckers in this country would rather hear about Alanis Morrisette with her hand in her friggin' pocket. whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:19:50 -0600 (CST) From: Maries Snavely Subject: MISFITS BOOTLEGS I am interested in buying ALL MISFITS BOOTLEGS that are available.. if you are willing to sell yours, ASK ME FIRST! I will give you the best price, GUARENTEED! masnavel@sendit.nodak.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 22:05:28 -0500 (EST) From: Belial Subject: hallowe'en and stuff Exactly how many of y'all made it to the show on Hallowe'en? I know Mark made it and one other guy who I found...unless that was Mark. Just curious because I see a lot of posts about the Misfits inability to return w/o Glenn. I thought they did a great show and I had a damn good time. (I was the dog-collared fucker with the GG shirt and blacked-out eyes, so I'm sorry if I clocked any of my fellow Bible folks.) I got a couple of shirts autographed for my baby sisters (8 and 10 yrs old -- youngest Misfits fans I know) before Jerry and Doyle left, so's if anyone talks to them anytime soon tell them thanks for me and that they made those two little girls incredibly happy. -Chuck ------------------------------ From: J.Baldry@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:55:29 GMT Subject: RATM stuff After reading Valgamon's post last issue about the whole RATM 'sell out' thing, I'd just like to say that although personally I don't like the band's music OR politics, I can think of no better way to reach the (young) masses than to get your ideas and images played on MTV every 10 minutes. Constant repetition of music sells records so why shouldn't it sell ideologies? Surely by using Sony's money and distribution networks, RATM are using the system to (in their view I suppose) change/bring down the system? What could be better than that for all you 'revolutionary' types?? Most people like to think that changes to the system will come from 'hard' or aggressive style bands... funny then to think that the one band that has probably had more effect on 'changing the system' than anyone else is The Beatles. What? No swearing in their songs... they couldn't possibly have made a difference ;) Later (and let the *flames* engulf me, ha!) Julian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:36:09 -0500 (EST) From: Chicken Subject: Some stuff I just got collection II in the mail yesterday (as a promo for my zine) and almost shit in my pants. It is incredible. 20 songs including lyrics in the booklet. What I did notice is that there is no "misfits logo" anywhere on it. The only place it says Misfits on the damned thing is on the spine and it is just a regular type. Does Doyle or Only have the Copyright for the logo? The poster I got that my friend broght me back from the Murphy's law show (I didn't have $20) has the logo on it. What's the deal? -chicken/Spooky Poop P.S. is anyone selling MISFITS shirts, (new or old) at a decent price? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:58:39 -0500 From: 9438955@edutech.ctech.ac.za Subject: Verotik hell-o i read one of your notices on alt.music.danzig. you claim to be a trader of danzig stuff, but are you also a VEROTIK trader? i have hell on earth to find some VEROTIK stuff - maybe 'cause i live in a third world country (south africa). how much more can you expect? also how much less? i am desperately seeking DANZIG t-shirts as well. we get NO such stuff here. i want the following ones: - "jesus bleeding" (the one described by glenn on the DANZIG I video) - "am i demon" (cover of the DANZIG I video) - the danzig cross w/skull (the thing Glenn wears round his neck on LUCIFUGE) - HOW THE GODS KILL long sleeve - "yin yang" long sleeve could you perhaps help me get these? if not, please forward this mail to someone who can... thanx christo "The Devil you see, is the Devil I'll be" +------------------------------+ | e-mail: | | | | 9438955@edutech.ctech.ac.za | | 9009396@studcom1.ctech.ac.za | | khryst-0@tesla.ctech.ac.za | +------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:11:37 EST From: "\\A corpse" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #117 Greetings to all the fiends Well I saw them yes I did on Tuesday with Mark and the few bible holders there. Sorry I Haven't written over the last week but my email was screwy. here's my view on the Halloween. I got to Coney Island High around 10:00 p.m. for halloween I wore a devilock black makeup under the eyes etc. etc. The place was surronded by people trying to sell tickets. Anyway there were three bands befor The Misfits I'd have to say that it was worth the money. Mark, I have to Disagree with you on Murphy's law. One I thought they put on a terrific show and two I thought that the humor they poked at Jerry and Doyle was funny. (The lead singer wanted to know if he could get a deal on the models.) Also I would have eventually gotten pissed off too if people kept asking me while I'm on stage when the next band is going to be there. (the lead singer of Murphy's law said if someone asked him on more time when the Misfits were going to arrive he would jump on that person and kick them in the head.) I think that Static Age sounds great. It puts to shame what Glenn did to the songs on LOB. Also I think Mike did sound great however I have to question whether his devilock was real. I met him back in June when I got my liners to my C.D.'s signed. he had a little lock maybe to his eyebrows. when he came on stage it went down to his chin. Also when girls tried to touch him he moved his face away. As my Girlfriend put it, that Devilock is a weave. Perhaps the one thing that really I remember the most other than Mike to play was when Sal sang Static Age. I was in the front fighting for my space, and I looked over and saw Jerry. The image of him screaming out the backup vocals is still frozen in my mind. It was exteremly intense Anyway after the girl in the front got hurt by the falling stage curtain, we left. I saw all the posters at the door. Although my greed was strong I only took 10 posters. I gave on to the radio station I work at, put on my wall, and the rest I'm going to save. -Mozzer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:49:18 -0500 From: caroline@interramp.com (Caroline Records) Subject: Misfits Issues Greetings from Caroline! We have been reading the Bible with great interest recently. We want to take the time to address some issues that have been coming up. 1) We are not involved in any way with the Samhain Box Set. We don't have any more info than you -- possibly less. 2) To all of you who are looking to purchase the "Beware And The Rest" or the "Beware: The Singles 77-82" bootlegs, please be advised that everything on these records will be released by Caroline in the next several months. Our versions are mastered directly from the original master tapes and will have the best sound quality. In addition, royalties from our records will get paid to the band members and not to some criminal. Save your money and your ears. 3) In February, we plan to release the Misfits Box Set. No one is more committed than us in making this set something every Misfits fan will want. While we are in the midst of finalizing the design and contents, suffice to say that it will be truly spectacular. We can definitely tell you the following: the box will be shaped like a coffin (designed by an award-winning firm), it will contain four CDs (over 100 tracks, of which almost half have never been released including "Static Age" and a full disc of tracks from legendary sessions throughout the years), and a deluxe booklet with liner notes, lyrics, photos, etc. from band members and others. 4) Since this keeps coming up, please understand that "Static Age" has not been modified or altered by any members of the band. It does not contain re-recorded or added instrumentation or vocals. It was mastered from the original 2-track mixed master tapes. 5) "Mephisto Waltz". First, wait until you hear it before you make up your mind about it. What is it? Who is playing on it? We don't know anything other than what we have been told by various people, which is: It is "The Misfits" and it is NOT Samhain. Glenn included the song as part of "Collection II" which he compiled. Jerry and Doyle have made it clear that they are not playing on it, but that does not necessarily indicate that it is a Samhain track. Whatever or whoever it is, we are presenting it as a Misfits song based on Glenn's representations to us. 6) A tremendous amount of fans' time is spent arguing about the 'authenticity' of various recordings past, present and future that are presented as Misfits tracks. We understand, and even have been known to engage, in this speculation. We do want to make it clear that we are making every effort to present to the public what we have available in its most complete and original form. Clearly, some Misfits releases have been altered from their originally recorded form. Furthermore, we think that fans should appreciate that the Misfits, like any band, was a collaboration between its members. In the case of the Misfits, many different members contributed to the recordings over the years. To attempt to dissect individuals' contributions after the fact is probably futile and possibily insulting to those individuals. Everyone who was fortunate enough to be in the band deserves our respect and admiration. 7) Many people have been asking about video footage of the band. We are not currently involved in any Misfits video projects. We certainly would be interested in any opportunities to do so. We'll let you know what's going on. 8) The street date for "Collection II" is November 14! We're reading and watching your comments and hope that we will be able to answer all your questions. thanks. Caroline Records ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 16:21:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: pushead How do I join the Pushead fanclub? Anybody have the address for it? Joe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 13:26:56 -0500 (EST) From: etricho1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #117 Please send me any upcomming dates the misfits are playing. Also Can you get a video tape or a bootleg of the halloween show at coney island high. I'm so pissed I missed the Misfits the first time around, there is no fucking way in hell i'm missing them again eric ------------------------------ From: michael calamaras Subject: National Rape Awareness Week Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:19:27 -0500 (EST) Okay people this is a request, NOT a mandate. This upcoming week is national rape awareness week so get out there and do something. Walk on you local Take Back the Night March, join Tulane Men Against Rape or whatever you have nearby, Take a personal defense course, volunteer at a battered women's shelter, but please do something. Women (and men) should be able to live safely without the fear of sexual violence in their lives but it takes all of us. End of speech, thanks a lot for reading this and not just deleting it right away. May you BE! dearly, liz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 12:09:57 -0500 From: vinylink@ari.net (Vinyl Ink Records) Subject: Misfits: Collection II MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II COLLECTION II * When? THE MISFITS "Collection II" is being released on Caroline Records November 14. * How Much? The vinyl has a $9.98 list price and CD has a $15.98 list price. Vinyl Ink is now taking orders for both formats at the following prices: THE MISFITS "Collection II" LP on color wax $8.75 THE MISFITS "Collection II" CD $14.75 THE MISFITS "Collection II" both LP & CD SPECIAL PRICE $23.00 Please add $4 for any size order for postage within the United States. All others please call for rates. * How do I order? Please email us your order, with your full name and full snail mail address. We accept credit cards (Visa, Mastercard, Discover & American Express) and money orders only. You may also call or fax in your order with your credit card information or just send a money order. We have an unlimited supply of CD's (Lp is limited) available to us so feel free to send payment without a reservation. All credit card orders will be processed and shipped withing 48 hours of delivery of the release which should be around the 7th or 8th of November. * Hey, what's on this damned comp anyway?? 20 rarities, including tracks never before available commercially. * Return of the Fly Never commercially released * Horror Hotel Out of print * Children In Heat Out of print * Ratt Fink Out of print * Last Caress Out of print * Nike-A-Go-Go Alternate version * Cough/Cool Alternate version * Devil's Whorehouse Alternate version * We Are 138 * Attitude * Halloween * Halloween II * Hate Breeders * Braineaters * Mephisto Waltz * We Bite * Queen Wasp * Demonomania * Hellhound * Bloodfeast | Vinyl Ink Records | e-mail vinylink@ari.net | new www address http://www2.ari.net/vinylink | 955 Bonifant St Silver Spring MD 20910 USA | Phone (301) 588-4695 | Fax (301) 495-3105 | | On line catalog via auto-responder netalog@ari.net | Update only via auto-responder current@ari.net | | Ask about our free update subscription service ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Nov 95 16:17:22 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: Time to talk Hey everyone.... I think it is time we got off our asses and got on IRC.... Here is a good plan.... November 14th we all go out, buy Compilation II, listen to it, and give each other our comments in the #misfits channel on the IRC....I would like to chat with some of you people in real time, not Email.... so lets go fiends... if your on AOL, do they have IRC? I dont think they do, if they dont, I can log everything that goes on and give it to Mark to put on the WWW page.... Email me if you think this will be a good idea, or if you will be there.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 19:51:17 -0800 From: Mike Westlake Subject: John Christ, etc... Hello Mark, hello all. I received a letter from John Christ a week ago or so. I think somebody mentioned that "For Christ's Sake" was remixed and is going to be released on something else, so I'll skip that. In John's words: "I've also got a moody acoustic instrumental coming out in January. The compilation CD is 'Guitars That Ruled The World II,' I think it's II. The song is called simply 'One Song.'" Be sure to check it out! A couple of weeks ago I picked up the Ugly Things zines 12 and 13. Most interesting. I'll have to get the 14 soon. I picked 12 and 13 up at Vinyl Solutions on Beach Blvd. in Huntington Beach, CA. They ususally carry a descent supply of Misfits, Samhain, and Danzig toys. It's one of those hole in the wall places that can have everything you're looking for and more, especially if you're me. I hope some of you were able to catch White Zombie at Irvine Meadows on October 28th. Besides the concert being a most amazing experience with Elvira and even Alice Cooper singing "School's Out" with Rob, I think I heard Rat Fink (not the Misfits) being played over the speakers before the show. Maybe, maybe not. Anyone have any ideas...? One last pointless note: For Geoffrey King (gk001e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu), save yourself and get as far away from UR as you can. However, finding Mark's page will definitly be a rewarding accomplishment. I think that all I really learned while at UR last year is that reading about the Misfits is about the most exciting thing to do there. Don't get me wrong, reading about the Misfits is a damn exciting thing to do! Find Ray Glennon, he might be able to help. Hollister ------------------------------ From: 102567.422@compuserve.com Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:25:10 -0500 Subject: New Idea hello again, This is my second post and it should have been sent last week but I've been having some problems with the modem. Anyway, thanks to everybody who so kindly responded to my Halloween II & Lucifuge question I really enjoyed all of the answers. I would like to commend Mark for all of the work that he put into this homepage and also for the mass of information in the Misfits Book. Wow is that thing full of information, it's like all you ever wanted to know about Misfits/Samhain/Danzig. It's really informable and I can't get over how you could find out all of that stuff, I would take me a lifetime to put that together. I just read 114-117 today and they kick ass! There is so much going on lately that the bibles are just full of great stuff. I really liked the Samhain and Satanism by Zodiac, BM Fama's and Stewart Gallacher's articles. There were a few other really cool ones but I can't remember them off hand. Those three people's responses were very stong and (agreed with them) they were very polite about it even though they were disagreeing with some people. I got an idea for the bible. I know that some of you people must have interperetations of some of the many songs that Danzig has written. I think that some people have already done this with songs like 138 and Lords of the Left Hand (a perfect example #117). Descent: I think that this song is talking about Lucifer's fall from heaven and how badly he got screwed around on his way down. Cantspeak: This seems like Danzig is talking about how life is in a country that is ruled by a dictator. If you have seen the video the backgound shows people like Hitler and Stalin. so long Scott Onuczko ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:17:16 -0500 (EST) From: Justin A Chamberlain Subject: Buncha Stuff Hey Guys, I found a good article on the "new"MISFITS this past week in Ink Nineteen magazine and has great interview with Jerry and Doyle. It discusses some neat stuff like:the auditioning of a girl lead singer, their comic book, their new material, and their TV/movie careers. If you want a copy of this magazine they sell back issues for $2 --> Ink Nineteen, P.O. Box 1947, Melbourne, Fl 32902 (407) 253-0290. Also a GREAT local record Store is selling the large foam DANZIG 4 display for $20 if anyone is interested contact ACE's RECORDS 1518 East Fowler Ave, Tampa, FL 33612 (813) 978-9655 (they do mail order and have a great selection of vinyl and import cd's and is deemed Tampa's HEAVIEST Record store.) Here's some more MISFITS/DANZIG sightings that seem so popular today, and no its not theat fucking poster on Saved by the Bell. On the WHITE ZOMBIE Make Them Die Slowly album cover either the drummer or J. is wearing a MISFITS pushead/eyeball shirt. Also I remember seeing the movie Tougher Than Leather w/ the BEASTIE BOYS and Run DMC and spotting Rick Rubin wearing the Danzig Skull shirt and possibly listening to DANZIG or SLAYER. No place in my town has this movie for rent so maybe someone else can coroberate this. The last sighting I have is sitting on my book shelf..Crystar: The Crystal Warrior #8 7/84 comic book this is a great piece for us collectors and I only paid $1.25 for it! This is my abbreviated Wanted List and I'm willing to trade or buy for this: Danzig II Lucifuge (vinyl), Fiend club Inserts, The original versions of Trouble by the King, Rat Fink and R.A.T.T FINK(Undead), and The Hunter by Albert King. One last thing, the discography on this site said that the Warner Bros. released came with a lyric sheet/photo collage. The Lp I bought did not come with this (and it was sealed). Did I get jipped or is there a mistake in the discography? LESS THAN ZERO Justin C hamberlain jchamb@grove.ufl.edu 4LS\ geology <0 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:39:02 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Sacred Trash To all those interested in any Misfits spin off bands. Dr. Chud has released an album with his band Sacred Trash. I know this announcement is alittle late, the record came out last December! in any case it's not bad. check it out. info is available from: Sacred Trash F.C. P.O. Box 16 Lodi, NJ 07644 %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% * A writer is like a gypsy. He owes no allegiance to any government.% % If he is a good writer he will never like the government he lives * * under. His hand should be against it, and its hand will always % % be against him. -- Ernest Hemingway * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 95 12:51:40 -0800 From: Aaron Pacitti Subject: MTV Commercial Has anyone seen the MTV commercial that is played around Christmas time? It says something like "Santa'a secret identity...the slam dancer." and then they show a pit. If you listen to the music in the background, it is the end of the EVILIVE version of 138 where Rollins and Danzig scream 8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8. It surprised me when I saw it last year. MTV usually airs it during December. Just wanted to share that. I'm off, Martian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:01:16 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: #117, Lords of the Left Hand Well, I promised a week or two ago to give the true orgin of Lords of the Left Hand,but it looks like Stewart gallacher beat me to the punch. As he sain in #117, this was the name of a group w/in the early Nazi party. AS Glenn said in a magazine interview I read, Hitler met w/ a guy named Karl Haushofer, and used him as an advisor, until Hitler became paranoid. Glenn said that when Hitler stopped using Haushofer, he started losing the war. One of the Biblical artifacts Hitler sought was the Spear of Destiny. The "left" comes from the archangel Lucifer's position on the left hand side of God. In the interview Glenn says nothing about the Samhain song, but this is quite obviously the source. BTW, the line "triumph of the will" refers to the title of the Nazi propaganda film, I think 1936 (but I can't remember for sure). This is considered one of the greatest examples of propaganda ever. I also think Glenn says "power of the fuhrer" not "power of the pure, ALTHO either works w/in the song's context. ("fuhrer" is German for "leader" but has come to refer to Hitler almost exclusively since the '30s). BTW, Zodiac mentioned the Nation of Islam last ish...you all know they are the basis for "White Devil Rise", right? To ccarioli: I was in a big mall in Wash. D.C. in May 1993, and saw a 2-tape set of "The Crimson Ghost" for $30. in this big video store. I can't remeber the mall or store names though. It was a legitimate release. (BTW, the series was later renamed "Cyclotrode X", so you might want to chack under that title) The store had a $10 section...I asked for "Plan 9 from Outer Space" and thre clerk said "it's in our $10 section, but we're sold out" DAMN IT!! (I should have bought the Ghost set; the cover pictures were worth the $30 alone). Kenney: "Astro Zombies" rules...me and my friends had a Glenn danzig cover band a couple of years ago. That was our name. We were gonna make a tape called "ALL SONGS WRITTEN BY GLENN DANZIG" w/ almost every Misfits, Samhain and Danzig songs we could fit. We did Static Age, Not of this World,Last Caress, Twist of Cain, She Rides, Am I Demon, Braineaters (about fifteen times), and of coures our title track, "AStro Zombies". I may be forgetting some songs, but whatever was recorded is lost somewhere in my friend's basement, and I'd probably puke if I ever listened to it. (They said my vocals were good,but I'm sure they were just being nice at the time). "who'd I do this for hey me or you? Whoooah...." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:18:40 -0500 From: She Subject: POSTER CONTEST Okay, here are 10 questions. Answer these as best you can, but only do it once. Most of these are probably too hard for the majority of the people on this mailing list, but you can guess. The top 10 responses get a Static Age poster - but you have to pay the postage. In a week or two I'll announce the winners. The answers to a few of these are somewhere on the page. 1) Who was subscriber #138 to the Misfits Bible? 2) What was Glenn Danzig's ambition after high school? (Hint: Check his yearbook picture.) 3) What is the name of the guitarist of Type O Negative? (He sang with the Misfits the other night.) 4) What is Doyle's favorite football team? 5) What was Jerry's number on the Lodi High School football team? 6) How old is Mike Graves, the new vocalist? 7) What size shoe did Glenn wear in 1990? 8) How did Jerry get his first bass guitar? 9) Who taught Franche' Coma how to play guitar? 10) What Undead song did Bobby write for The Misfits? Bonus: Answer any of these and you get one. (I don't know the answers... yet) 1) What was the release date (month/day/year) for the Less Than Zero soundtrack? 2) Where (if anywhere) did Less Than Zero chart in the Billboard Top 200 list? 3) Where did Walk Among Us chart on Billboard? Jerry says it went to around #5 or something. I have a hard time believing this. ) ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:59:09 -0500 Subject: Collection II A question: None of the local stores have heard of it. Will I HAVE to order it, or are the people working there stupid alternative schmucks who are not told of these things? I think they are, but I've looked at the incoming order lists....nothing. Chris ------------------------------ From: sulev@passport.ca Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:01 EST Subject: Misfits head north? First of all, I just wanted to say that this list has consistently been both an entertaining and informative read, and it's great to be able to catch up on all the latest news concerning the reformation of one of my favorite bands. CG's quiz was also a lot of fun. I just wish that I wasn't so swamped and had some more time to dig up and submit some answers . At the very least I hope Mark can devise of a similar method so he can unload some of those goodies he snagged at the Coney Island Show! It's too bad the aforementioned show was so disorganized. One would of thought that Jerry and Doyle's past expereinces with clubowners and their methods of doing business would have prepared them somewhat. Anyway, it's great to hear that Mike Graves is a more than suitable replacement for Glenn. (Danzig? Who's that?). Let's hope that in the meantime, the 'fits overcome these logistics problems and actually play somewhere out of the NY/NJ area. Here's a suggestion: come on up to Toronto! It's only a 10-12 hour drive, and a appearance by the Misfits in a local venue sometime in '96 would be more than appreciated. Besides, isn't our beer alone worth the trip? Cheers! Erik sulev@passport.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 17:53:59 EST From: WRNB91E@prodigy.com (MR MIKE D MOLLURA) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #117 -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Samhain is a celtic holiday, but it is named after Samhain, the lord of death. People thought on the eve before all saints day, Samhain and the people that died that year, would raise from the dead and take over the world. So they stayed up, and built these huge bonefires to ward him off. -Mike ------------------------------ From: sulev@passport.ca Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:39 EST Subject: Heylin's "Bootleg" book Although the Misfits get a very brief mention (concerning the explosion of largely poor quality bootlegs during their popularity surge in the early-mid 80's), in Clinton Heylin's latest book "Bootleg:The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry", I have to strongly recommend this book to anyone with an interest in bootlegs and record collecting in general. There's tons of info within it's 400+ pages, and it's a fantastic read to boot! It's great to read the history behind some of those obscure jems (and the characters responsible for them) that one has been lucky to snap up over the years. It's still in hardcover so if you don't feel like plunking down the $30 for it, put it on your x-mas list, you won't be disappointed. On a similar note, Heylin's previous book "From the Velvets to the Voidoids" is also an essential purchase if you're into the pivotal years of the NYC punk/new wave scene from the late 60's to the late '70s. And speaking of the Velvets, isn't the new box set amazing? (Sorry, if I've strayed too far off the main topics with this one, but I've been listening to this one a LOT lately!). Cheers! Erik sulev@passport.ca ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 19:03:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: danzig's new life Hey guy, OK this'll be the first letter I write that doesn't have a thousand questions in it. Good. I'm gla everyone's happy about that. BTW I read every back issue as of today and you guys are pretty damn informative. Thanks, especially to MArk, EVB, and Crimson Ghost! I'm sure there are others I can't recall right now. Anyway, I've been reading in th eposts about Danzig's new direction, about the punk/industrial/tribal thing, and didn't EVB say that Danzig said he WASN't going to be industrial? Can'tspeak is pretty damn industrial I don't care what you use to define that genre. But I think Danzig has it all wrong. He's done the hellish rockabilly/hardcore/ evil punk/heavy metal/pre-industrial thing and now he should move on. I'm talking Black Aria here, which is the best thing the man has done since Samhain's November-Coming-Fire (not taking away from any of the following releases). When I first heard that I was a little pissed that I had paid a dollar a minute to listen to it, but in the end I was satisfied, big time. As a matter of fact, I have a friend that is nearly Danzig's age, hates all the "modern rock" he hears, and know what? He's got his own copy of Black Aria. One listen and he liked it a lot. Okay so what I'm saying is now it should be Glenn Danzig: big badass, tatooed, toughguy neo-classical musician. Just imagine it, Danzig conducting an ensemble of tatooed, muscular freaks in an orgy of death neo-classical music. That would be the shit! No one has done that. Just imagine going to a Danzig concert and you and the crowd are moshing to "Cwynn Awnn" (yeah I know I spelled it wrong). I hope someone on this list can get his to Danzig. Tell him to take a chance. Look, he's proved he can rock us with power chords and driving rhytms, now let's see him do it with an orchestra. Alright then i put in my ten cents worth. I also heard of another Black Aria coming out, when'll that be? Also, Mark posted that Pushead was being contacted to do more work for the Misfits...hope he does a new cover someday. I still think his art is more suited to them than.....Metallica. Back in '89 I had that Misfits glow in the dark Pushead shirt of the skeleton pulling out it's eyeball......problem was the damn thing didn't glow in the dark. Guess I had a defective shirt. OK guys, keep the news coming, later, Joe ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Time to talk The gospel according to CG Re: Misfits Bible, #114 Re: 118 SKULL-CROSS/DANZIG-III1/2 RE: Misfits Bible, #108 they are a group Spinal Remains Misfits Cover Band "DEVILOCK" the song "she" Arival San Francisco Collection II DANZIG VIDEO (RARE SORT OF) Collection II Review ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIEDARLING@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:33:37 -0500 Subject: THX1138, etc., etc. I've been lurking around for awhile now......thought maybe I'd start to put my two cents in. Hey Bob....THX1138 was a cool movie and I was glued to it the whole time~go back to those taquitos. And, if you need something else to do~dig that other eye out, then you won't have to worry about seeing anymore "shitty" movies...... ZODIAC.....excellent comments, we need more intelligent people like you around! ......Boston Pheonix eh? Very cool. BM Fama.....agreed, I was a huge Doors fan before stumbling across Misfits/Samhain/Danzig and there is definately some similarity which is I think why I enjoy Glenn's vocals so much. But, then again, there is so much more. Glenn seems to have more brains in his litttle pinkie than Jim Morrison ever had. Nuff said. To all, I'm glad this has come back around to being fairly intelligent conversation again. For awhile there I thought this was going to turn into a huge shit throwing contest. "I am your power and your pain" DIEDARLING ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:26:11 -0500 From: michael mccusty Subject: Re: bible 113 what's up? okay, a number of things: 1)werd to mark on the 7" version of NOTLD being oodles bettah than the one on walk. there is no question that this is the version everyone should hear. 2)that santa claus ad on mtv.....i think you are wrong. i guess we won't know for sure til december, but i'm always excited to see this commercial (as well as run-dmc's "christmas in hollis" and buster poindexter's "is that you santa claus?" :P) and i think i would have noticed b4. the song that sticks in my mind is people chating "hey" or "'ey" or "eh?" or "a" over and over but it seems the musik is different from 138, and so is the chanting. 3)i would wager to *guess* that the less than zero soundtrack got "up there" on the billboard chart. two songs off of it, the bangles' "hazy shade of winter" and ll cool j's "going back to cali" were pretty popular if memory serves. and the cool j track wasn't released on one of his own rekkids til "walking with a panther", which came out later.... 4)texas is the reason is currently on tour. played here with shift, tiara, and someone else last week but i was broke. i heard mixed reviews, some said that texas and shift had attitude problems....i dunno, cuz i wasn't there.. love, luck, and lollipops, michael allroy ************************************************************************** "and, every situation becomes an uncomfortable confrontation between two minds unthinking as to why there's this nervousness between us and i wish we'd been simply taught to trust cuz every man is my brother and i must treat him as such" -crimpshrine ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 08:20:43 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last time Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 16:00:23 -0500 From: Matthew Paul Tomkiel >By the way the Offspring and all the other = >neuvo punk, sell-out, wanna-be misfits bands suck. It's funny that you put it that way. Wanna be Misfits? Going by your *.edu address I would assume you are pretty young. I think you should listen to some older punk, maybe then you would realize that "The Damned" had the whole Gothic Punk look thing down long before the Misfits were ever on the scene. Since bands like the offspring are *nothing* like the Misfits I don't think it's exactly fair to make such comparisons. At least there are some new bands out that have something interesting to say, no matter what label they're on or how popular they get. It would be a pretty boring world indeed without new music. From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Subject: Re: misfits bible....the return of GoatboyAK >what is the address, phone number of CDNow...someone listed >something about it selling the collection II, how can i contact them???? >i really want to get it http://cdnow.com/ From: "Mark W. Russell" Subject: valgamon vs. crimson ghost >the vast majority >of fuckers in this country would rather hear about Alanis Morrisette with >her hand in her friggin' pocket. and the other one picking her nose? %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% * A writer is like a gypsy. He owes no allegiance to any government.% % If he is a good writer he will never like the government he lives * * under. His hand should be against it, and its hand will always % % be against him. -- Ernest Hemingway * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 12:48:21 EST From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: POLITICS SUCK!! -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE MISFITS BIBLE??? WHY DOES IT SEEM THAT EVERY ONE WITH SOME KIND OF A POLITICAL AGENDA IS ALLOWED TO POST?? I'VE SEEN SHIT ON THE BLACK PANTHERS AND NOW RAPE AWARENESS WEEK. DONT GET ME WRONG, I SUPPORT WOMENS RIGHTS!! HOWEVER, WE MUST ALL AGREE TO DISAGREE! ! THIS IS THE MISFITS PAGE. IM SURE THAT THE POLITICALLY ACTIVE CAN BROWS THE WEB AND FIND A FORUM FOR THERE SHIT. IF WE ALLOW SOME PEOPLE TO POST, WE MUST ALLOW ALL PEOPLE TO POST. EVERY TOM, DICK, AND HARRY CAN NOW SPEW THERE SEWERS ON ANY THING THEY WANT. FROM WHITE POWER TO THE DEATH OF PRIME MINISTER RABIN. THE MILLION MAN MARCH (400,000) TO OKLAHOMA BOMBING. WE ALL HAVE A POLITICAL AGENDA, I JUST PREFER TO KEEP MINE WHERE IT BELONGS!!! OF THE MISFITS PAGE!!!! TIM FROM PORTLAND ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 14:18:46 Subject: WDE From: "KINGPIN@SUPREME" Hello,Im not real new to the group but I haven't posted alot either I was wondering why in the hell do so many people on all the news groups cross post so much? This a very big problem and some many people still do even after people slam there ass.I have notice that evil and techno are starting to tell these people what they yhink it is about time. Well the bible is kick ass and I will always be on it. KINGPIN WDE ------------------------------ From: gregjaw@eden.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:09:23 EST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #118 the misfits (present) have proven to be a bunch of sell-out cheez balls... action figures for 150$? how could you re-do the old designs? SHITE! SHITE! SHITE! its all SHITE! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 07:48:28 -0500 From: Gary LaRue I think that the suggestion about everyone should buy Collection II and talk about it is great. I know I'm going to buy it and give my opinion( not that anyone wants to know it). THE EVIL EYE ------------------------------ From: REAGANPR@vax1.acs.jmu.edu Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 18:39:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Photos are in!!!! Hey Fiends! I just received the photos of the show in NYC. Some of the pictures are kinda shitty, but I got some real awesome pictures of the band, with both Sal B. and Mike Graves on vocals. Drop me a line if you want color reprints or photocopies. I will also trade these for video footage of the misfits and Samhain as well as hard to find CD's of the band. Something that I am really interested in finding is the Earth AD gold CD. Also, I haven't gotten a reply from flex, so if you see this flex, mail me about trading for a copy of the CD. Pat "reaganpr@jmu.edu" ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 18:44:25 -0500 Subject: Posters! Hey all. Just got back from the local used CD store and the guy is taking special orders....some things of interest: 60X40 posters--$15 Misfits Die, Die My Darling Photo of Glenn from Collection Danzig Mother (photo of Glenn as in Thrall in the completely unfolded section) 24X36 poster--$9 Danzig Lucifuge poster (Doors-type photo) Recent tour poster from Germany HTGK Giger work Mother (same as top) Drop me an e-mail if you'd like me to put an order for you in. Chris ------------------------------ From: andrew_mclaughlin@mail.amsinc.com Date: Tue, 07 Nov 95 15:38:46 EST Subject: General Misfits Comments I'm not sure if I lucked out or not, but I happened to be looking in the record store (11/6) near the Ms and figured that I would thumb through the Misfits section to see what they had ( I usually judge a store by the contents of their Glenn related materials). Well, to my surprise, there was a copy of Collections II for $12.95. Needless to say I grabbed it. I guess my understanding was that it shouldn't be released before the 14th. Oh well. Anyhow, the CD is incredible. I never really got beyond buying CDs and a few tapes, so I never heard Cough/Cool before. This particular version is definitely different than most other Misfits songs. This is a definite purchase item to be enjoyed by all. Caroline records: Thanks for the detailed information on Misfits material. If all you promise is true, than you will make a lot of people happy. Question: Is EviLive available on CD? I have seen several people elude to this but I have never found it. Caroline records has it listed as available in CD format in the catalogue that every record store has. Nevertheless, it is always unavailable on special order. Any help on this question and where I can get it would be great. thanks. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:37:12 -0800 From: Ricky Hinojos Subject: Misfits Bible, #118 From: Ed Dycus Subject: HELP PLEASE... > 3) Just out of curiosity, where does "Left Hand Black" originate? Knowing > Danzig, I assumed it was some cult who regarded the left hand as evil, or > something to that effect... Well, in some relgions (cough cough Christian/Catholic cough), the left hand has to do with evil; the soon-to-be fallen angels stood on God's left side, with Lucifer as his left hand man. Traditionally, students at private schools were punished by the nuns with a rap on the knuckles if a student insisted on being a southpaw. That fear of the kids being influenced by the devil (the lefthandedness) has kinda gone away, maybe due to some common sense. Oh, those kids who went to private schools know all the good religious jokes. =) > From: Anonymous > Subject: Time to talk > Hey everyone.... > I think it is time we got off our asses and got on IRC.... Here is a good > plan.... November 14th we all go out, buy Compilation II, > listen to it, and give each other our comments in the #misfits channel on the > IRC.... --- What time? PST or EST? mmmmmmmmm donuts.... Lollipop Ryq ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:44:25 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: The gospel according to CG You talk of revolution, you say a band can't truly be revolutionary if they are released on and promoted by a major label; ie: Sony Corp. The whole purpose of revolution is to get your point across by any means. There are two sides to this issue. First you have the record company exploiting the band to make money; they could care less about the band, they'll promote the shit out of them until the next flavor comes along. Then there is the band, revolutionary, maybe, but who cares they get the exposure they need to get their message out. They also make a few bucks in the process, what's more important to them? only they know. What do listen to the music for? the message or the music? If it's just the message read a book for Christ's sake, it's more informative anyway. Over the years there has been many bands with something important to say, bands that have complained about the system in this country. The majority of them have been recorded on major labels. Take for example "Don't Call me Nigger, Whitey" by Sly Stone, a poinant portrayal of 1960's racism in America. The song was banned from radio airplay, but because it was on a major label, millions of people heard it. Don't think that the punk genre was anything revolutionary, it wasn't. The music was a step backwards, the fact that the majority of lyrics complained about one thing or another isn't a new idea either. Structured music has been around for thousands of years and until recently was not whimsical by nature (for the most part). Music is a way of communicating, whatever the message may be. What better place than the USA for a major record label to promote, not condone or support, but promote a anti-social message. This country was born on revolution and thrives on capitalism. Are you suggesting all out revolution on our social/commercial system? maybe we should disgard all social institutions, and reform the government so that our word would be final. If my memory serves me correct they tried that in Russia 80 years ago. No, the major label have a place in this world - yes the popular bands will get the credit for introducing new thought or new music to the masses, but we know those bands aren't saying anything new. To add a little topicality to this post; I don't hear anyone bringing up the fact that "Walk among us" is out on Warner Bros. and Danzig on American. No of course not, you like these bands. btw - Valgamon I see that your a computer science major, that's great your setting yourself up to join corporate America. With all your ideals I think another profession would have suited you better, but then again it's not a crime for you to make money is it? It's only a crime for bands. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% * A writer is like a gypsy. He owes no allegiance to any government.% % If he is a good writer he will never like the government he lives * * under. His hand should be against it, and its hand will always % % be against him. -- Ernest Hemingway * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:47:04 GMT From: "ONE MORE NIGHT SPENT ON YOUR MIRROR, BLACK MARIAH IN YOUR EYES..." Does anyone have any idea when Collection II or The Misfits boxed set will be out in the U.K.? Or how much they will cost? .kurtz. p.s. That compilation uk/dk has a cool song on it called Megalomania by a group called The Blood its well worth checking out. p.p.s. A friend of mine reckons the main riff from Some Kinda Hate was copied some song that was in that dire movie Sister Act, now I havn't seen the movie so can anyone confirm or deny this? ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:14:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #114 Just wanted to touch on few things this week. First- Sessions skate shop has got the Misfits X-mas shirt as well as a few other cool ones. The catalog is usually in spin magazine. don't bother buying the mag, just rip out the catalog. Second- I have two musical sightings, or hearings, whatever. On espn whenthe show hockey highlights the play the beginning of Long Way back from hell. Thats the giutar intro. they keep looping it so it never gets to the vocals. And two weeks ago I heard a radio commercial for the Holyfield-Bowe fight that used Danzig music as a background. But being my stupid self I forgot what song it was. did anyone else hear these things? and if you did what song did they use for the fight music? and I'm surprised to hear that glenn may have licensed his music. doesn't seem like something he would do. anyway thats it check out the catalog for the shirts. drslfin ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: 118 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:55:20 -0500 (EST) > From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu > > Thanks for the show report mark. a few questions... > who shot the videos at the shows? fans or the misfits crew? In > other words how long will it be before they are available to us, officially or > in bootleg form? i really want to see/hear mike and chud. > What did the guy from murphys law saw about the misfits anyway? > im curious? he's lucky he didn't get the holy shit beat out of him. A friend of the band shot the videos, so we'll probably never see them, although I've been told I'll get one. The Murphy's Law guy was just making fun of the Misfts models that they've been selling. People think Jerry and Doyle are making these models to rip people off. That's completely not the case. Those models are expensive to make and the general cost of models of that quality is in that range. Just ask anyone who likes to construct and paint models (like EVB). It's a hobby of theirs and if they want to do it, they should be able to. Why make fun of people for their hobbies? > From: Ed Dycus > Subject: HELP PLEASE... > > 2) What happened to the Samhain box? Everyone seemed to be going apeshit > over it (including me) and suddenly it's never been heard from again. > Although STeve Zing told me the box would come out this month, another subscriber was informed by Eerie Von that it wasn't coming out until Halloween of '96. Remember that Glenn originally advertised the Misfits Box set in 1987 and it won't be out until 1996. That's 9 years off the mark. > From: Belial > > (I was the dog-collared fucker with the GG shirt and blacked-out eyes, > so I'm sorry if I clocked any of my fellow Bible folks.) I got a couple I think I saw you there... > From: Chicken > lyrics in the booklet. What I did notice is that there is no "misfits logo" > anywhere on it. The only place it says Misfits on the damned thing is on > the spine and it is just a regular type. Does Doyle or Only have the > Copyright for the logo? The poster I got that my friend broght me back > from the Murphy's law show (I didn't have $20) has the logo on it. > What's the deal? Chicken - where the hell were you about 2 or 3 issues ago when I described the album in detail and explained that for reasons unknown, Caroline chose not to include the logo on the cover, but on a sticker on the plastic wrap? Any Misfits logo can be used by The Misfits since they are the Misfits.... (surprise, surprise) adios mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:52:52 -0700 From: mikel@kelman.ab.ca (Michael Link) Subject: SKULL-CROSS/DANZIG-III1/2 does anyone know where the skull cross that glenn wore for lucifuge can be bought for a _reasonable_ price? not one of those cheap metals things but a nice silver one do i have to talk to the fan club? do i have to cast one myself? do i have to buy glenn's? do i ask too many questions? i also wanted to review a danzig COOKIE that i received - DANZIG III-1/2 do you people care? -of course not but what the hell the sound quality is good, nice selection of _danzig_ songs but they sound almost identical to the studio albums. i was disappointed that there wasn't anything fresh or different. my experiences with COOKIES has been that the concerts are different than the studio albums are there any danzig COOKIES that are different versions? ain't no serpent of the lord crawling to the will of god mikel ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 14:58:03 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #108 I AM JUST WRITING THIS TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THE NEAT ITEM I PICKED UP TODAY..I WAS WALKING THROUGH MY UNIVERSITY COMMONS AREA, AND I SAW THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE SELLING STUFF, WELL THIS ONE GUY HAD TONS OF POSTERS AND I ASKED HIM IF HE HAD ANY OF OLD HORROR MOVIES, AND I desperately tried to think of any misfit related titles, and i mentioned NOTLD, and he had one, and i also mentioned Plan 9 >From Outer Space, and he said that he had an Ed Wood poster.. well it is a huge, color poster.:the top reads "ED WOOD PRESENTS, THE WORST HORROR MOVIES EVER MADE", and there are individual one scene pictures, in color from the following movies:"THE BRIDE AND THE BEAST","NIGHT OF THE GHOULS","JAIL BAIT", "PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE","BRIDE OF THE MONSTER", AND "GLEN OR GLENDOLA?"..IT IS JUST AWESOME, AND IF ANYONE CARES I PAID $20 BUCKS FOR IT, but i guess that it is mostly sentimental value, but you fiends know about that...i plan on eventually getting it signed by as many Misfit members as possible.. i laso mentioned the movie THX1138 to him and he said that he had some special set of cards or pictures or something, going for like $150 and he had a lot!!! of old horror movie posters and stuff, as well as screen writes and stuff from them also...if anyone is intersetd..the address and phone nuymber is: PIX POSTER CELLAR 1105 MASSACHUSSETTES AVENUE, #10 CAMBRIDGE , MA. 02138 617-864-7499 ALTHOUGH HE WASN'T AT ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE CRIMSON GHOST, OH WELL LATER FIENDS- LOVE GOAT- XXX-TRUE PRIDE-XXX NOTHING GOES BETTER WITH THE MISFITS THAN A TALL GLASS OF APPLE JUICE!!!!! ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 14:25:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: they are a group Like I said last bible i've read all the past issues and 2 things come up all the time: 1). What someone thinks We are 138 means (that fucking issue comes up all the time as if they can't rtread the discography) and 2). who was the driving force of the Misfits, Doyle or Danzig. Ok both issues are pointless. Everyone should know by now about the Lucas movie and for the second issue: I have been in a few bands, and I have talked to people in others, and in the majority of them youa re a band, as in a Group of people. OK so you say Danzig wrote all the songs right? Well, take this for example....Danzig: "Ok guys I want you to play this rhtym." Doyle: (plays it.....thinks..) hey Glenn, how about this instead? (plays slightly different ryhtm.) Danzig: ( thinks....) "yeah that sounds ok." And none of the other parts are changed....but Doyle has changed his own and certainly in other songs Jerry will propbably change the arrangement of his parts to his liking. Even in totally monarchial groups like NIN Trent Reznor will allow his live act to fiddle with their parts, and if he likes it it stays their way, if not it stays his way. So the whole point of what I am saying is that even though Danzig has been given credit for writing the songs, do you really think he wrote every fucking thing he wanted people to play. So as to the whole point of Danzig being THE misfits, the whole idea is bullshit. Even Reznor is not NIN by himslef, on each album he has musicians play certain parts (on Prettyhatemachin ehe had his guitarist produce a drone guitar noise for Sanctified......he had Adrian Belew play some power chors on the Downward Spiral along with Stephen Perkins on the drums) for different songs....yet in the Misfits Danzig was a member of the group. That's why I think they can survive without him. But after 13 years I am worried what they will sound like, especially new stuff. Too bad they had done this ealier, but I guess Danzig was trying to stop them too, then. Anyway so what does everyone think about my post concerning what I believe Danzig's new life should be? It'll probably get me in the middle of some flame war. Later, Joe ------------------------------ From: WL262000@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 17:29:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Spinal Remains I was listening to "Spinal Remains" a lot this week, and I think that the one (touch my amp..) really goes like this: "And I will not sit on broken glass Not for you or anyone, I will not cut my fucking ass." This makes more sense to me, I know Jerry checks the lyrics on the page, but even HE can be mistaken sometimes. If you listen to it with these lyrics in mind, it sure sounds right. Sean M Sean M Sean M Sean M Sean M Sean M Sean M Sean M Sean M Sean M Sean M Q: What is the definition of cool? A: Eerie Von ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:16:08 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Misfits Cover Band "DEVILOCK" Mark, Hi, my name is Keith Noss and I've been following the Bible for a couple of months now. Anyway I think there may be a chance you know of me. A while back I used to be on a chat line called "Foothills" as the name "misfit." My room logo was an exact replica of your Bible and Pit logo. Perhaps you got it from me. If so, cool. If not, I just thought it was coincidental. But, now on to the real news. I live in Columbus, Ohio and up until about four months ago I played guitar for an all Misfits cover band I put together. Our name was/is "Devilock" and we played out in the central Ohio area on and off for about a year. The response was great and we had a lot of fun. Anyway, we lost our space to practice and things kind of fizzled. But, now with the appearance of your page and the incredible response of your members, my passion for playing out again has been rekindled. However, I have now been working on the notion of making "Devilock" a "Misfits/Samhain/Danzig" cover band and now with some of your guitar tab and lyrics, I am hopeful that this will soon become a reality. This is where you and your readers come in. We need your help in finding a practice space in Columbus from either a fan of the Misfits or someone who may already play or practice for their band and would be willing to let us practice in their space. All of that aside, "Devilock" played/plays the Misfits in more of a heavier vein but it's still the same great music. We also have a demo tape of about five songs and many tapes of us practicing (some early stuff and very funny) that I would be willing to make copies of and send out to Bible members for the cost of shipping and a tape. When we played out we did several rare tunes like "Return of the Fly" and "Last Caress" so it was all great fun and the crowds seemed to enjoy themselves. Eerie Von also wrote me and told me it was a cool idea and told me a story of how Glenn and himself got up on stage with a Misfits cover band in New Zealand of all places. So anything could happen. Also, there may be openings for "Devilock" depending on what former members remain. First of all, however, I would just like to see what kind of response this post gets and what all the Misfits/Samhain/Danzig fans think of my ideas. You've already helped greatly with lyrics and tab, so if anything comes from this I will be indebted to you. Thanks for the chance to let me spout off Mark. Feel free to chop this up and post whatever parts you want to. And if you want one of the demos send me your snail mail address and I'll get one out to you. Oh, one more thing, If anyone is from Ohio or anywhere close, feel free to snail mail or E-mail me so I can have a list of people to inform if we play out at any clubs. And if you want a tape E-mail me also. Thanks again, The Noss Snail Mail: E-Mail: Devilock Industries knoss@iwaynet.net C\O Keith Noss 61 East Duncan Street Columbus, Ohio 43202 (614) 262-9256 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 95 17:53:06 -0800 From: Lab User Subject: the song "she" following in the footsteps of all of those people who wondered about what 138 meant, what was "she" inspired by? was it a horror movie? or (my private theory) was it about Patty Hearst? The lyrics sure fit in with that whole incident,(that "she's got a rich dad, she's her daddy's girl" part got me thinking). am i close? jbiniek@hawk.depaul.edu ------------------------------ From: JohnGrimm@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 00:38:02 -0500 Subject: Arival Attention all Misfits fans, the Archfiend has arrived on-line... Johnathan M. Grimm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:37 PST From: Kent Bendall Subject: San Francisco Hi fiends - first off, for anyone in the Victoria BC area, my Misfit tribute band "the Astro Zombies", is playing tomorrow night (nov. 10th). Gig details can be found on the band's lame homepage at http://www.islandnet.com/~kentb/astro.htm Secondly - i'm gonna be in San Francisco in a few weeks. Does anyone know of any cool record (or other) stores i should check out for 'Fits stuff? Or just let me know of *any* cool places i should hit. thanx......kent... ------------------------------ From: The Left Hand Path Subject: Collection II Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 01:10:44 -0600 (CST) I heard the album today, and i have to agree that some songs (Expecially Cough/cool) aren't at all the real `fits.... BUT i have to say it still rocks..... kinda odd listening to glenn singing all the vocals, (Just like spook city USA, and Who killed Marilyn?)... i might be wrong on that, but oh well... i kinda missed the really crappy recordings associated with the `Fits.... that's all i gotta babble about.... LeSTaT qp ------------------------------ Subject: DANZIG VIDEO (RARE SORT OF) From: commando@rushnet.com (COMMANDO) Date: 09 Nov 95 04:09:21 cst OK. SO I was already to get the 1st danzig video, with Mother and all the, cool songs. SO I went down there ttnight. Got it. Brought it home. Pressed play...BOOOM....the reels were switched with.....Dwight Yokam. I'm so pissed. It took me like a month or 2 to finally get this. I dont know If I should take it back or what. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:45:15 -0500 (EST) From: eRiC sNoOk Subject: Collection II Review Hello Fiends: I got my copy of Collection II yesterday for $10.88 and decided to share my thoughts with you. When I first heard the negative comments of it (the ones I read in the Bible) by Jerry, I pretty much dismissed them. I didn't want them to affect my view of this album. I thought that some of Jerry's dislike for the album stemmed from sour feelings with Glenn Danzig. I wish I was wrong. The album is not terrible, it just could of been better. Here we go: 1) We Are 138 - This was really good. It was nice to hear the song without its pops and whisltes from my record player. The song may have been mixed slightly different, but it is faithful to the original. 2) Attitude - Same as above. I was pretty geeked when listening to this... I thought this Collection II was great. 3) Cough Cool - I about puked on the floor, guys. It was terrible. The vocals sound re-done (i.e. 1995) and the synth is horrible! It sounds like something leftover from Danzig's Cwn Anwnn. How they (he) could butcher the original is beyond me. It was never a great song (sure it sounded low quality) but to doctor it like this is ridiculous. My roommate (who never heard the original) even said the song sounded "awkward" and "didn't sound together". 4) Last Caress - Very good! Like WA138 and Last Caress. 5) Return of the Fly - Mixed better (than my crappy bootleg) and seems very faithful to the original. 6) Children in Heat - Sounded good. I only have one beef... WHY NOT PUT TEENAGERS FROM MARS DIRECTLY BEFORE IT SO THE TWO FRIGGIN' SONGS FLOW TOGHETER LIKE IT WAS INTENDED? I realize we already have TFM, but why not again? I mean, starting CIH like that bugs me... 7) Ratt Fink - Faithful, but not as BASS crazy like the NOTLD single. 8) Horror Hotel - In my clumsy opinion, the best damn track on this whole album. The original (London Dungeon/Ghouls) was recorded well, so nothign really needed to be changed and wasn't! Hooray! 9) Halloween & Halloween II: Ok... but were the vocals amped up a little? 11) Hatebreeder - Alt take... When? 12) Braineaters - Same session 13) Nike-A-Go-Go - Who did this one? Black Flag? I'd like to know when/who was doing this. It's need to hear the different takes and all, but sounds kinda strange... 14) Devil's whorehouse: I *never* liked this song. The guitar *blats* too much. 15) Mephisto's Waltz: Ok, kids. I have to agree with Mark 100% on this one. This sounds soooo much like Samhain. Glenn's vocals are way lower and growly (just think Halloween II on NCF) and the excessive Woooooahs (any Samhain album). Despite what Caroline says, this does not seem like the Misfits. The way you can view this as the Misfits is like how Final Descent [Side 1] is Danzig (i.e. John Christ, etc.), not Samhain... In my opinion, if it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck... then... 16) We Bite - I really dug this version of it. 17 - 20) Earth AD alt takes. The music sounds the same, just a differnt vocal track. The total score: Well, go out and buy it. You have to. Parts are really good. The only thing is that it could have been better. It seems Caroline (and Danzig) put something very minimal out. It almost says: "If you have Collection I and II then you have every song they did." Ok, true. But not every version. Where the heck was Night of the Living Dead (sure it's on Collection I), but not the 7" Ditto for Where Eagles Dare. Surely, why not Glenn Danzig's Spook City USA and Who Killed Marilyn? The original She, and Cough Cool? The remix for CC was horrible! Heck, why not have TEENAGERS FROM MARS & CHILDREN IN HEAT appear just like that? I know it sounds petty, but hey, it's better that way. This comp is good for the meantime, but it makes me anticipate Static Age and the proposed box set even more. Caroline: If you are out there, you can do better than this. Kids, don't throw out your 7"s and Beware and the Rest just yet... Later.. .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Misfits misfits, what else? Collection 2 RE: Misfits Bible, #119 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: Re: MB 119 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:01:05 -0500 (EST) > From: WL262000@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu > > "And I will not sit on broken glass > Not for you or anyone, > I will not cut my fucking ass." > Good call Sean. I agree with your lyrics more or less. Actually Jerry helped figure out some of the lyrics, and this was NOT one of them. These lyrics were created by Glenn in '85 so there's no way Jerry knew what they were. > From: Lab User > Subject: the song "she" > > following in the footsteps of all of those people who wondered about what > 138 meant, what was "she" inspired by? was it a horror movie? or (my > private theory) was it about Patty Hearst? The lyrics sure fit in with As it says on the page in the 3rd section of the Misfits discography, this song definitely was inspired by Patty Hearst. > From: JohnGrimm@aol.com > Subject: Arival > > Attention all Misfits fans, the Archfiend has arrived on-line... > Johnathan M. Grimm Welcome fiend. It's about time you got here.... Right on. Overall that was an excellent review of the album Snook... mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:24:10 -0500 From: "Jake Starr/ADAM WEST" Subject: Collections Schmollections everybody, seek out the original 7"s if you can afford them. that's where the true Misfits lie, not in these cheesy remixed collections. ************************************************ * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * * c/o Fandango Records * * 1805 T Street, NW #A * * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * * (202) 483-0065 * * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * * http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~aizen/aw.html * ************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 14:23:24 -0800 From: Mark Nance Subject: A farewell of sorts. Well, fiends, I've only been on the mailing list for about a month, and it's time to say goodbye...I've been banned from my e-mail for using it for "abusive purposes"...I'll still read it everytime it comes out, I just may not be able to respond...thanks to everybody that has taken interest in the Ninjas, and if you are interested, they have a live album and their first studio release..."Legacy of Frugality" coming out before Thanksgiving...for information, write: The Ninjas c/o Mark Nance 5645 Harmony Woods Lane Evansville, IN 47720 You can check out the Ninjas homepage and the album cover for "Legacy" at: http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~pcjr/ninjas/brucelee.htm Again, thanks to everyone on this list that has given me something to read besides back issues of the Punisher and Maximum Rock'n'Roll... Mark, who wonders what the administration will say when they discover I've been using other people's e-mail for my own "abusive purposes" ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 14:20:39 -0600 (CST) Subject: she,comics/politics,collectionII I remember a "she" movie that featured She-who-must-be-obeyed. I thought that sounded a lot like He-who-can-not-be-named in a way. o.k. i know this is the misfits page, but i found this interesting. The comics buyers guide (#1147,nov.10) has something on glenn's comics. Seems a store in oklahoma was charged w/ 8 counts of distributing obscene materials and one of those being Glenn's Verotika#4. In a phone interview Danzig said that he was taking no steps to aid in the stores defense. Verotik will not donate any money to the comic book legal defense fund, nor will Danzig appear in court to defend his publications. Danzig thinks that the legal deffense fund is an after the fact oganization, and more should be done before stuff like this happens. Some retailers said some things to the nature that if danzig is jst going to let us be on our own we are not going to carry his comics. I am just trying to remember what i can from the article, go to it if you want direct quotes and long, more precise representation of the facts. Anyway it is possible, but not likely, that Danzig,the artist,and writers could face felony charges eventully if the store is convicted. oh yeah, the column was Peter David's But I Digress. A few thing about Collection II, Since my copy has no lyrics to Mephisto Waltz, and that same"nonstandard latin" phrase, did Caroline pull the lyrics off the page? Has the songwriters copywrite or what ever run out onRATTFINK since Danzig is listed as writting all the songs? Hatebreeders stinks, who ever said nike sounds like black flag was on the money, it stinks too (dont get me wrong, i love black flag) Braineaters totally loses all its appeal(whats the fun of a chant song when there is only one guy chanting? it sucks. I never liked Devils Whore house that much, but i think this version is kind of interesting, it just shouldnt have been presented in this package. same goes for cough/cool, however, i do like this one, it reminds me of some songs off of my Pac man fever record. by the way has any one figured out mephisto yet on guitar? if i remember i tried it two days ago and got E A# B for the 1st part, on to D for the second part but it was too muddy after D, and i only tried it for a minute, oh well im probably compleatly wrong. i look foward to seeing it on the page(even if its not the misfits) and to seeing some new pics, and t-shirt order forms up on the page. thanks jamil ------------------------------ Subject: re: the gospel according to cg Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:19:56 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Duran > From: Crimson Ghost > Subject: The gospel according to CG > > [...gospel snipped...] no problems with the above....i shared this sentiment while the thread was ongoing. it's these last two paragraphs that don't sit well w/ me. > To add a little topicality to this post; I don't hear anyone bringing up the > fact that "Walk among us" is out on Warner Bros. and Danzig on American. No > of course not, you like these bands. cg, i thought this discussion was re: a major-label band claiming to be revolutionary. (don't get me wrong, i love the album...don't really know what the message is supposed to be since i haven't read the lyrics ...but the music kicks). it doesn't make sense to compare ratm to misfits/danzig, since to my awareness (minimal tho' it may be), neither ever claimed to be revolutionary/political/what-have-you the way people say that ratm have (i don't know that they have). unless of course, punk is inherently revolutionary. then disregard. just picking nits. > btw - Valgamon I see that your a computer science major, that's great your > setting yourself up to join corporate America. With all your ideals I think > another profession would have suited you better, but then again it's not a > crime for you to make money is it? It's only a crime for bands. my email addy notwithstanding, this is a cheap shot. you don't know what valg's plans are. i've known more than a few people who got their engineering/business degrees but did not use them (in the usual sense). it was something they wanted to do, not a means to an end. granted, they are in the minority. *** this posting is intended for the private use of the misfits *** *** bible list. it may not be rebroadcast or used as an excuse *** *** to start flame war w/o express written authorization by me. *** *-= gut-ripper =-* ------------------------------ From: satan@ns1.relex.relex.com Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:10:24 +0500 Subject: We are 138!!!!! This is my first post!!! Where I live it's getting really hard to find Misfits fans and that makes it hard to get Misfits stuff. I went through blood and sweat to get this Evilive tape, and then I found the CD. I'll probably have trouble getting Collection II too but I'll get it. ANyways, I was wondering if anyone knew where I can get a complete listing of everyshow the Misfits played. I have one for Danzig but I don't have one for the Misfits or Samhain. If anyone can help me out... Also, I am looking for Misfits video footage(SAMHAIN) too!!! The only really odd thing I have is a cheap crappy recording my cousin got once when he went to a Misfits show. It sucks but at least it's something nobody else really has. I think people come down a little hard on Glenn too. Give Glenn a break...the songs rule and he sung them. Everything he's been involved with is cool and compared to the other assholes and dorks out there(Green Day,Offspring, etc!!) he rules. MISFITS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You bet your life there's gonna be a fight!!!!!!!!!!1 E-MAIL: satan@ns1.relex.com ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 19:39:58 -0500 Subject: Misfits Model I forgot to add this on to my other post. If anyone saw the Misfits model I had made for me that I brought with me to the Chiller convention two weeks or so ago and liked it, here's the address of the guy who did it: Attack of the Clay People! P.O. Box 193 Streamwood, IL 60107-0193. If you send him an SASE, I'm sure he'll send you a catalog. He does custom clay models of all types. He'll pretty much do whatever you want as long as you provide him with photos or video. He does really good work and the Misfits model is amazing. It's probably one of the two best done out of all that "Attack .." has done for me (I have 8 already with 2 more on the way). For the quality of the work the models are cheap at $45 per. I took some pictures of it with the "Twins of Evil" in person and they even liked it a lot. They even gave my nephew a free t-shirt after he took some pictures with them while holding it! The Jerry Only model that Jerry and Doyle have out is cool but at $150, it's a bit much just for one figure. I got the three figures in my Misfits piece (Jerry, Glenn, and Doyle) done for under that much. Just thought I'd let all of you in on this ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 19:39:58 -0500 Subject: "Lucifuge" I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before and I don't have the time to sort through 100 or so Bibles to check so if it has I apologize before hand. If not, here goes ... the other day I was watching "Angel Heart" (I'd seen it before a few years ago but never really gave it my undivided attention) and in the scene were Harry Angel was talking to the father of the astrologer who had her heart cut out, I heard the following quote that made me reaching for the remote to rewind to see if I was hearing things ... "I introduced Johnny Favorite to my daughter ... he was very powerful ... I once watched him conjure up LUCIFUGE in my living room ... he was in much deeper than me ... he made a pact with Satan ... he sold his soul ..." I thought it was pretty cool. I just thought I'd let you all in on it. If you haven't seen the film, you should. It's got some very creepy movies ... - BILE666. P.S. -- I saw Jerry Only and Doyle play on Halloween during Type O Negative set and I must say they were AMAZING. I had goose bumps running up and down my arms. I thought the second singer who went on with them ( the one with the shorter hair and devilock) was really good and much better than the first. I found Type O Negative kind of boring but for me things exploded when they took the stage. Absolutely intense ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 19:45:19 -0500 From: Zodiac Subject: Bible #119 Fiends, Just a few comments from #119: Gregjaw: Why do you say the (present) Misfits are "sell out cheese balls" for selling models for $150 a pop? You can't afford one? Seriously, you should remember something is only worth what someone else will pay for it. If you don't like the price don't buy one. Besides, what does this have to do with their music? M. Tomkeil: I wouldn't say "all neuvo punk, sell out, wanna be Misfits bands suck", however, I definately wouldn't call them punk. It would seem to me any band that calls itself "punk", isn't. As Johnny Rotten was asked in an interview: "The word "punk" means no good; worthless. Johnny Rotten, are you happy with this word?". Rotten replied, "It is the press's problem, not ours. We never called ourselves punk." The Sex Pistols, who, in my humble opinion, defined "punk" in every sense of the word, never once used it to describe themselves. Bands like Green Day and Offspring may have the music (basic three-chord rock 'n' roll), but they seriously lack the attitude. See the Pistol's "We've Come For Your Children" on Skyclad for a full dose of punk culture. The Misfits and Sex Pistols are punk, Offspring and Green Day are not. Tim and Veronica Crenshaw: Good point. This Bible is an excellent source for M/S/D related material, thoughts, and opinions. Politics have their place, just not on this list. Anyway, must go. I'll send in my views on Collection II when I finally track down a copy. Zodiac =============================== "To Serve Man"...IT'S A COOKBOOK! =============================== This message brought to you by Zodiac. E-Mail: abbadon@idirect.com =============================== Some say punk rock died when the Sex Pistols broke up. Others say it died when The Clash wrote "Rock The Casbah". =============================== ------------------------------ From: WL262000@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 15:17:17 -0500 (EST) > From: gregjaw@eden.rutgers.edu >the misfits (present) have proven to be a bunch of sell-out cheez balls... >action figures for 150$? The Misfits need to eat, too. They could devote all their time to making knives, if that would suit everyone better. They'd make a hellalot more money if they did. WE asked them to come back. > From: Chris > Just got back from the local used CD store and the guy is taking special > orders....some things of interest: > 60X40 posters--$15 > 24X36 poster--$9 I saw some cool posters at the beach this summer. #1- Die Die, but with Necros/Beastie Boys/Friday #2- Samhain close up of b/w face w/logo in yellow on bottom #3- Danzig, group shot looking mean, as usual. didn't get this one Stickers too! #1- 'Fits logo in blue w/4 CG's #2- 'Fits logo with CG #3- 'Fits old logo vertical w/skull (also had reverse for window) #4- "Beware" #5- Glenn foto from collection w/"contains previously unreleased versions" written on bottom, logo on top #6- B/W backstage band foto (prolly some record I don't have) #7- Fiend Club #8- Samhain "Bucket of Blood" reaper in a field of skulls #9- Samhain written in red on black Postcards: Walk, Legacy, Guy with earring (Glenn?) screaming into mic, Die Die. Shirts: Die Die, CG alone Initium, November, and a bunch of pusshead crap My trip to the beach was a Misfits mission. > From: Drslfin@aol.com > I'm surprised to hear that glenn may have licensed his > music. doesn't seem like something he would do. Yes it does, he hates the Misfits, right, so why the hell does he put another album out? The answer is green. > From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu > > Well, take this for example....Danzig: "Ok guys I want you to play this < rhtym." Doyle: (plays it.....thinks..) hey Glenn, how about < this instead? (plays slightly different ryhtm.) Danzig: ( > thinks....) "yeah that sounds ok." Heres what' really happened: Glenn: play it this way Jerry: that sucks Doyle: yeah, it sounds like shit Glenn: I wrote it, so play it my way, it's MY band! Jerry & Doyle: Fuck you! Then J&D play it the way thay want anyway Glenn: Oh yeah, well I'll show you! (dubs over their playing with his own) > From: ? > > what was "she" inspired by? > was it about Patty Hearst? yes, it was >I heard the album today, and i have to agree that some songs (Expecially >Cough/cool) aren't at all the real `fits.... >BUT i have to say it still >rocks..... kinda odd listening to glenn singing all the vocals, (Just >like spook city USA, and Who killed Marilyn?)... It was my understanding that glenn always did his oun backup vocals > From: commando@rushnet.com (COMMANDO) > OK. SO I was already to get the 1st danzig video, with Mother and all > the, cool songs. SO I went down there ttnight. Got it. Brought it home. > Pressed play...BOOOM....the reels were switched with.....Dwight Yokam. > I'm so pissed. It took me like a month or 2 to finally get this. I dont > know if I should take it back or what? THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE TAPE, ONLY THE REAL TUNED-IN PEOPLE CAN SEE DANZIG, THE REST ALWAYS GET DWIGHT The Eerie Von parts are the best, also when glenn makes fun of chuck and says "Let's ROCK!" And when he rolls his eyes at the backstage woman (says she's Eerie's girlfriend That face rules! SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M SEAN M PS: DEAD 32 is getting along fine. We did a set in a cabin the other day to a bunch of dopers my brother hangs out with. One guy kept saying "Play Skulls, play skulls!" So we did Horror Business and asked him if he liked that vervion of skulls, and he DID! "This show has been brought to you by the letters H&B and the numbers ONE! TWO!! -Dead 32 intro to horror business ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits logo Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:07:26 -0500 (EST) According to B.M. Fama: > > Some guy in the last ish asked if the Misfits could dtill use the logo, > and you said they could, they're The Misfits now. I thnk he meant did > they finally get told by "Famous Monsters of Filmland" not to use the logo. > I don't think they make that mag anymore anyway. But the sticker does > have that logo? I guess I'll know Tuesday. Okay. Sorry if I confused anybody. The Misfits have the rights to any band logo they want to use - either the one from the 70's or the one with the letters taken from the "Famous Monsters Of Filmland" logo. I don't know what the story is with the copyright on the "Famous Monsters Of Filmland" logo, but I suspect it might be something like the case of the Crimson Ghost. Any sort of copyright on the CG ran out years ago, and recently Jerry copyrighted the current version of the CG for Misfits use. Similarly, the Misfits logo using the "Famous Monster..." lettering is now a registered trademark (TM). mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:10:51 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: "demonomania" Mark,thanks for the address (again). I was looking through my school library computer, and they have The Dictionary of Angels...I don't know if it's the same Glenn has, but it's by Gustave Davidson. On page 94, he says Dalkiel (Satanika's father in Glenn's comics) is "an angel of hell, ruler of Sheol, and equated with Rugziel (q.v.). In Baraita de Massachet Gehinnom, Dalkiel operates the 7th compartment of the underworld, "punishing 10 nations," and serving under the orders of Duma(h), who is the angel of the stillness of death. [see writings of Joseph Gikatilla ben Abraham (1248-1305).]" [everything above is exactly how it appeared in the text] I looked to see if "Igrat" was in there, but she wasn't. (she's Satanika's enemy if you don't read the comics. Anyway, some people on the Bible mentioned Verotik, so I thought I'd post that. Maybe EVB can put it in her danzig FAQ or something. I also found the "Dictionary of Demons", which has a listing for "Demonomania": "A word used to denote a mental illness or supposed mental illness in which the sick person imagines himself possessed or surrounded by demons. In terms of occultism teh supposed mental illness is recognized as an intrusion of an unprepared ego into the lower astral realm, where demons may be perceived. For those who have not been prepared by special spiritual exercises or initiations, such accidental entry into the astral plane and the insights this affords can be quite horrific. `Demonomania', probably derived from the french "demonomanie", was also sometimes used in the 18th and 19th centuries to denote a "foolish" belief in demons which is not in itself an illness: however, the correct word should be "demonomanie". In contrast, one who believes in the reality of demons is a "demonomist", though this word is sometime used as being synonymous with "demonolater". " [it doesn't look so long when you read it straight form the book, but typing it's another thing] Anyway, this might just be a coincidence, or maybe Glenn got the word from some other source, because this book was published in 1988, and there is no indication in the indicia of a previous printing. The author is Fred Gettings. You coul dinclude this in the next Bible if you thik anyone is interested enough to read it. BTW Mark, thanks for the answers re: Samhain box. Just one thing: if Glenn was to put out the set w/out Caroline, whjat else would be left for him to take away? They only have 3 cds, and if these plus other material were in the set, the Samhain-well would seem pretty dry. See you later. -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:03:40 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Time said: >the fight music? and I'm surprised to hear that glenn may have licensed his >music. doesn't seem like something he would do. anyway thats it check out >the catalog for the shirts. Actually that sounds exactly what he would do. You are refering to the same person that paid his band a salary (Danzig) and prior to that ripped off his band (Misfits). Glenn worships the dollar and hates to share. I'll bet when he plays monopoly he sticks a few extra $500's under the board. said: >following in the footsteps of all of those people who wondered about what >138 meant, what was "she" inspired by? was it a horror movie? or (my >private theory) was it about Patty Hearst? The lyrics sure fit in with >that whole incident,(that "she's got a rich dad, she's her daddy's girl" >part got me thinking). am i close? Read the FUcking Web page for the 100th time!!! CG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 11:06:35 -0500 From: She Subject: The Misfits Return! I added a new link to the page with pictures from the convention and the Coney Island High School show. Take a look at the page and let me know what you all think. I'm afraid that some of the pictures might have come out too dark. mark ------------------------------ From: Osito666@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 15:14:01 -0500 Subject: Collection II In just three issues of the Misfits Bible, I've learned as much about the Misfits as I did in all the years I've been listening to them. I've kept an eye on the Danzig newsgroup for about a year and a half and it was never as good as this. About "Mephisto Waltz" not being a Misfits song: Maybe, after Glenn and Jerry broke up, Glenn still thought to call his band the Misfits. That band (probably the first Samhain line-up) recorded "Mephisto Waltz" and Glenn still thinks of it as a Misfits song. I think he's entitled. He was an original member. That aside, I bought Collection II last night and I love it. The recordings sound fuller than any others I've ever heard. The guitars sound thicker. Whether that's due to re-mixing or Danzig re-recording the parts, I don't know, but it sounds fantastic. "We Are 138" sounds slower than the version I have on the Bullet 7" and the guitar solo seems to have a different ending. Is it the Beware version? I really like the way "Cough/Cool" sounds. It could be a version Danzig did on his own after the original and before the break-up. I might have a problem with it if he was trying to pass it off as the original, but since he's not, I don't. The lyrics to "Return Of The Fly" don't have the "Ceceille" part, after the second chorus. I wonder why. ------------------------------ From: Nikolopoulos Yannis -BSc Mod Comp Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 02:51:37 GMT Subject: just... Hi everybody, Just thought I'd tell you I'm back... I'm still trying to catch up on the last 20 bibles. Mark informed me that the Misfits already played a couple of shows!!! God, it sounds UNBELIEVABLE... Just hope that they'll tour Europe as well or else ... :) That's it for now, Yannnis ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:50:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: misfits book Hey everybody, In two of the past bibles there has been mention of a misfits comic book. I remember in one of them EVB was talking about it and said something about the artist being from Pittsburgh and the artwork was all cartoony with the stories being based on the songs. And I think her post was from a while ago. So when will this thing be released? And how are the guys going to distribute it? If anyone knows anymore about this let us all in on it, cause even though I'm not that much into comics anymore I'd really like to see Jerry & Doyle's. Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ From: Tony1013@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 15:25:23 -0500 Subject: My Collection 2 cents Hello Fiends across america and around the world, As I think many of you did, I went out and got Collection 2 this weekend. Personally I think the album is just "ok"...tracks like 138, Attitude, ect.,I thought were fine. There are some tracks that made me want to throw up, like the version of Cough/Cool, that track was so overdubber and just plain fucked with I think they should have called it "Cough/Cool '95". What really pissed me off about that track the most was how Glen or whoever dubbed in drums along with Mannys drums, and the drum sound isnt even the same!! The next set of disapointments were the Walk Among Us songs...in Hatebreeders the drums sound off time, Braineaters just sounded bad, Nike(one of my favorite songs)was I think the worst of them all, Devils Whorehouse wasnt that bad but it still wasnt like the WAU version that in used to. The rest of the songs We Bite-Blood Feast were good. Regarding Mephisto Waltz, I actually like the song, I admit it does sound like Samhain but when I listened to the drums carefully(if you havent figured out by now, yes I am a drummer)the drumming style sounded alot like Robo. Over all i have mixed emotions about the album, in alot of ways it was a big disapointment. I just wish Glen or whoever put it together would have been true to the music and just left it alone by not overdubbing and choosing the shitty alternate versions that they obviously didnt like 15yrs ago. These are my Collection 2 cents. Later all....... \\\\\\////// "EXTERMINATE" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 19:31:37 EST From: WRNB91E@prodigy.com (MR MIKE D MOLLURA) Subject: LORDS OF THE LEFT HAND & OTHER NEAT JUNK -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Ok, I heard from a few people about the Lords of the Left hand. In Nazi Germany (By the I am not a Nazi, so don't think I am promoting them) during the Third Reich, Hitler had an elite group of police called the Waffen SS. They ran around Germany and killed people for Hitler, like political figures and such. The guys lower on the totum pole killed the jews (That really sucks). But anyway, Hitler refered to his commanding officers as the "Lords of The (His probobly) Left hand." The lord of the right being god, because he thought he had god on his side. So that might be some explanation. Now, on a happier note, my band is releasing a 5 song ep soon. Anyone interested, E-mail me. We cover Some Kinda Hate on it.- Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 19:59:31 -0600 From: Maries Snavely Subject: mailto:msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu I just grabbed the MISFITS COLLECTION II last friday (the 9th).. well.. i got some questions.. some of these songs like mephisto waltz, queen wasp , and some more dont EVEN sound like the misfits?? when in the hell is danzig doing releasing thes bullshit songs?! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 01:11:41 -0500 From: She Subject: Contest Winners Will be announced next issue. mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 02:11:28 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Alan Smaldone <65063@ef.gc.maricopa.edu> Subject: What would life be like with three buttocks? Well, I just acquired the Collection II album from the store...and eagerly popped into the CD player. It does seem to be some good stuff. A couple comments... We Are 138: gawd damn it's weird actually hearing what Glen is saying! On my Evillive tape it's just too crappy to understand anything...but it's with Rollins, so it's fun anyway. Cough/Cool: Well, even if it isn't the original, It still seems pretty keen. If I heard some band today sound like this, I'd buy it. Rat Fink: I'm sorry, but I think it just sounds crappy. Just look at the lyric page for it. It's just silly. Halloween I & II: Good stuff! I've always liked Halloween...and while I was listening to 'II' I wondered what the hell he was saying. It was pretty clear, but it didn't make any sense. Then later I was reading the booklet.....oh, it's latin. Nike: I never really liked it, but there's something about this version that I like more than the album cut. Sound tighter, I think. Mephisto Waltz: I won't say anything about it because I'm only talking about Misfit songs. ;) Bloodfeast: Damn good shit! A great recording, but has anyone else noticed the fact that the song seems to go up and down in pitch? Is this from crappy master copies, or was someone in the duplication center getting goofy? All in all...had to get it. It is strange hearing everything come out so...so...clean! The only bad thing about being able to hear the vocals is the fact that I always liked to make up my own words and sing those with the songs...they might not have been right, but they were damn funny! ,---------------. _ _ | My eyes... \ |\__/| .~ ~. | The goggles do | /o=o'`./ .' Rich Smaldone \ nothing!!! /\_ {o__, \ { 65063@ef.gc.maricopa.edu `-------------' / . . ) \ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- `-` '-' \ } Lemon curry? .( _( )_ .' '---.~_ __| ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: looking for alf Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:32:00 -0500 (EST) sorry to waste your precious bible space, but i am looking for alf capello from milan, italy. are you out there? if so, please get in touch with me or rocky saenz from texas. thanks - evan. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:22:26 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: #118,119 In #118: Scott Onuczko: as far as Danzig/Samhain/Misfits interpretations, I have an article where Glenn explains the 10 on Lucifuge, and another where he dioes the first four off How the Gods Kill. The Lucifuge one is pretty short; if anyone's interested I'll type it up and post it. Erik (Canada): I'm in Dundas Ontario (just outside Hamilton). Actually your letter reminded of some mistakes Mark has on the Danzig Tour Dates section of the Misfits Book: the show on June 4/94 (Metalliica Tour) was at Molson Park (owned by Molson Breweries) in Barrie, NOT "Olson Park, Toronto) (there is no such park, BTW). To put this in perspective, Toronto is about 30-45 minutes drive away from Hamilton, whereas Barrie is about 2-3 hours. Also, Mark, you may be interested to know that the August 14?/90 show at the Concert Hall (at which Danzig did not play) was because the band got held back at the border. I raed that Glenn was arrested in Ontario for grave-robbing several years before that, but in detroit he told Craig that Eerie had some pot or something,and that's why they were denied entrance. In #119: drslfin: I heard a beer commercial in the summer w/"I'm the One" as the background music. There were no lyrics, and it was a different band playing. I could be wrong, but I think they are allowed to do that, as long as they don't use the orginal recording (they may have to pay some licencing fees or something). Although I think Glenn would sue anyway, if he knew. (it was on the radio, and I can't remember what brand of beer it was). Mikel: This is the letter that gets me excited. I'm getting a Danzig-skull-cross necklace made! I mad one of the Iron Cross, w/the skull pin mounted on. Glenn saw it when I met him, and we talked about it. I asked if he had any of the inverted cross that he would sell me, and he kinda said "nah..." (He didn't wear one at that show) Anyway, you can't get the big necklace from the fan club (I asked), and you can';t even get the little one anymore. You should go to a jeweller and inquire bout getting one made. I have the address of a mail-order place that still has the large skull-pin, so you can use one of these if you get the necklace made. The place is Concert Express; I can e-mail you the address if you want, or you can look in some metal magazine. {sorry to all of you who probably don't care about everything above about necklaces and shit) Lestat: Glenn definitely did all vocals for Samhain and Danzig, but I'm not sure if he did for the Misfits as well. Does anyone know for sure? (Mark?) In some cases, it seems his voice is in there more than once, but it's hard to tell if it wasn't the others soemtimes doing (some) backups. In the Misfits Book it says Franche' and Glenn both did backups on 'Return of the Fly" and "Attitude", so this might imply that these were just occasions when Glenn didn't do the backups alone. What does everyone else think? Did Jerry ever tell you that he or the other sometimes sang backups in the studio Mark? Finally over. see you later. -Brett "all I want to know..." ------------------------------ From: lin01862@acad.suffolk.edu Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 11:18:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Greetings i have a ????. what is up with the collection vol. II. i got it at a store but no other stores have a clue about it. is static age still going to be released? ------------------------mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 14:49:39 -0800 From: Mark Nance Subject: Why I'm Pissed Off... I went to my local record store on Tuesday with $20 in my hand ready to buy Collection II...I went in and said, "Hi, I'm Mark....the guy that called earlier about the Misfits..." "Oh, yeah," the clerk interupted me,"I made a mistake over the phone...we DIDN'T recieve that today...it must not have come out today..." "Actually...yes it did...I called a couple of my friends to see how it was...why don't YOU have it?" "Well...uh...I forgot to order it...I thought I did, but I guess I didn't...would you like me to special order it for you?" "Sure...why not." I handed him $5 for layaway... "It'll be in in a few days...check back on Thursday." "Thanks a lot"...."(Asshole)"(under my breath) That's why I'm pissed off...and it's the only record store in town. Mark Nance, who just got a whole lot of new Ninjas shirts in...at least my printer comes out on time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark Nance The Ninjas 110 Clark Hall c/o Mark Nance Vincennes University 5645 Harmony Woods Ln. Vincennes, IN 47591 Evansville, IN 47720 (812)888-4610 (812)963-6986 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 95 00:22:08 EST From: James Sanchez Subject: Re: Misfits would you happen to know why the Static Age release was scrapped? will it still come out? what's the deal with tracks 11-15 and the version of cough/cool off of the Collection II CD? they definitely sound like another band. and who knows when the vocals were done. they sound pretty recent. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 19:38:02 EST From: ********** Subject: Misfits Mark, Thank you for all the great stufff you've been sayin about the band!!!! your page if thats what you call it looks great theres sooo much shit to look through. After browsing around a bit a few things have come to my attention.... #1 MICHALE GRAVES MICHALE GRAVES MICHALE GRAVES I hate Mike... my high school teachers called me Mike Yuuuuck!!! No big deal #2 Please tell the people if they're interested in SACRED TRASH stuff to write to DR. CHUD at: P.O. box 16 Lodi NJ 07644 #3 I personnally am very interested in more feedback good and bad of the Halloween Happenings see what you can turn up....if you can, try and find out about any newspaper articles ,reviews ANYTHING,ask the people that subscribe to you there opinions let me know!!! #4 Get in touch with Pat Reagan and have He/She send me a copy of any and all pictures that were taken!!! send them to the fan club!! Attn. GRAVES #5 keep up the good work!!! Again ..........everything looks real good!!! be safe buddy MICHALE GRAVES ------------------------------ From: BT5211 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:10:28 GMT0BST Subject: misfits, what else? Let me preface this by saying that I'm a UCSD exchange student studying in the UK right now. This first part is mainly to Mark. I was cruising through the homepage and I noticed a link to a Fugazi page that you put in. I happen to be a huge Fugazi fan as well as a Misfits fan. Do you by any chance listen to Minuitemen or fIREHOSE? An does anyone know if Fugazi will be touring in the UK? I can't find any dates past November. One other thing. I noticed that most of the people in the bible are in the east of the US. I live out west and I don't know that many fiends. The misfits actually aren't that popular. Punk bands like the Sex Pistols, Ramones, Minor Threat, and Bad Religion are much more well known. Is this the case back east? Two more questions: When will collection 2 be released in the UK and will the Misfits come to Europe? Thanks, fiends! Disciple of the 3-way ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 17:05:20 EST From: MR MIKE D MOLLURA Subject: Collection 2 -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- A few coments on what I thought: Mephisto Waltz: Uh.... Shouldn't this be on a Samhain album? Hate Breeders, Braineaters, Nike, Devil's Whorehouse: Glenn Danzig didn't make it too obvious he recorded all the instruments on these tracks. (not) The rest was good, even cough\cool I liked. -Mike ------------------------------ From: ewebb@yorkcol.edu Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 17:17:57 EST Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #119 Just wondering if the rest of you are having no luck in finding the Collection today (14th). I've tried evry local music store and even a few across the state lines. Even the ones that expected the album, we're disapointed when Caroline didn't ship it to them today. I hope evryone else had better luck, eric p.s. on the hotline e.v. said Danzig 5 is finished and he'll forward tour dates when he gets them. also, his "uneasy listening" album is done as well. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: The Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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