Misfits Bible, Number 131 Tuesday, December 26th 1995 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #130 why EVB don't post no more..... FOR THE BIBLE My Fucking Opinon! a couple of things Re: Lets Talk about it Last Issue my view "malum nunquam abolesco" (was "Evil Never Dies") more stuff questions, questions, questions... Mark or Ghost clear this one up Re: Misfits Bible, #130 in the doorways Misfits stuff in abq, nm SA Posters More Sightings Re: Misfits Bible, #128 New versions Keep it up FROM ME TO YOU ALL! Horror Business AGNOSTIC FRONT bowels... Black Flag Chyna Merry X-mas Scarecrow Beast and The Simpsons Hello! DANZIG vs. MISFITS & OTHER STUFF evildon's question of the month attitude Mike Graves "Omen" lettering available Glenn Danzig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:07:42 -0500 From: sistinas@prime.planetcom.com (EVB) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #130 a minor correction to that Headbangers Ball transcript: >GD: You know, here's my viewpoint on this. This is it. It's the end. And, > you know, both those bands, uh there was a time when those bands were > around and the magazines then and they should of asked the questions about > the bands AT that time, and not just those two bands, but also about bands > like THE VELVER UNDERGROUND and BOWELHOUSE(???) it's BAUHAUS Another band that was sadly underground at the time, I'm really glad I got a chance to see 'em a half dozen times as they were easily one of the best live bands I've ever seen... (I guess today most folks still haven't heard of 'em either) Sorry... couldn't resist throwing in my two cents.... - EVB (yeah, I'm still alive) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:37:24 -0500 From: EVB Subject: why EVB don't post no more..... I've been getting a lot of mail asking why I don't post to the bible anymore, so I figured I'd explain why... Basically, I quess I don't feel qualified to do so anymore since the definition of what constitutes a "Misfits fan" seems to have shifted in the minds of many of the more vocal Bible posters. It seems to me that nowadays to be a "Misfits fan" you gotta slam Glenn for his steadfast refusal to go back to what he was doing a dozen years ago instead of moving on. Well, sorry but no-can-do. I'd rather him do something different. I'm looking forward to Danzig 5 & if it's industrial or influenced by Trent Reznor, well that's great by me. Truthfully I havent listened to much punk (besides the Misfits, Damned & Ramones) in years and the industrial stuff is more my speed these days. I also can't really consider myself a "Misfits fan" right yet in light of the fact that there's a new/resurrected band by that name, and I can't say I'm a fan of theirs until I actually get a chance to hear them. And in hearing them, what I want to judge them by is new work that's 100% theirs, as opposed to just hearing them play songs written by a former member. I really want to be able to evaluate them strictly on their own merits and not in the shadow of somebody else, so until then I'll patiently wait. No insult intended to Jerry, Doyle, Chud or Michale who are all very cool guys, I just have yet to hear you as a unit, and I will first chance I get! (I still feel bad for missing the Halloween show after I lost my ride and got instead an offer to go somewhere else) But I don't feel I can rightly call myself a fan of a band I've never heard, and in my mind there is enough difference here to consider it a different band. I guess it all comes down to "why are you drawn to the Misfits". I loved that band for Glenn's voice, songwriting ability and lyrics, and I'm positive that if he hadn't been in the band I never would have become the fanatic collector and admirer that I am today. (There are many other bands I've collected over the years, but never to such an extent). So I consider myself, first and foremost as an admirer of the works of Glenn Danzig. I can see how people would have been drawn to them for other reasons and prefer the imagry for example, which of course Jerry and co. are bringing back, so if that's what you go for, that's cool too, it just wasn't the reason for me. Also, being a friend of Glenn's for a number of years I have to say that reading the way he gets insulted in here really does make me flinch and feel uncomfortable. It does hurt to hear your friend insulted in such terms. Many times I've thought of unscubsribing but those thoughts have been outweighed by the cool and civil folks on this list. So even if I'm not posting I do read it and often reply to individual posters. Anyway, I do have a bit of Misfits related trivia.... if anybody on this list likes GENITORTURERS they are now performing a cool live version of "All Hell Breaks Loose" which I believe they are going to record for their new album (they'll be going back in th studio in early 1996). Saw them at the Limelight about a week ago and it was a great show! Also, if anybody happens to make it to any of the Verotik signings Glenn is doing, I REALLY need a copy of the limited edition "Igrat #1". I don't care if it's signed or not, I just hear it has a different cover and I really want a copy. I'm willing to pay double what it cost plus postage or offer something interesting in trade for it, so if anybody has a chance PLEASE snag one for me. Thanks in advance! always lurking..... EVB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 05:21:54 EST From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: FOR THE BIBLE -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- HEY, IS ANYONE OUT THERE FROM THE NORTHWEST?? PORTLAND TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. ANYONE OUT THERE EVER HEARD POISON IDEA?? OR AM I THE ONLY ONE WITH THE PLEASURE?? REPLY..... TIM FROM PORTLAND.....A MISFITS FANATIC!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 13:25:30 EST From: MR MIKE D MOLLURA Subject: My Fucking Opinon! -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Check it Out: Ok guys I know I haven't said much in the past few months, but I GOT SOMETHIN' TO SAY! Ok, first off, B.M. Fama, I have to disagree that the Misfits were Glenn Danzig's and Glenn Danzig's alone band. On this issue I have to come to Crimson's defense. Read the Ugly Things article ,if you have already read it again. If it was Glenn's band he would've supported it. According to Jerry, Glenn wouldn't get off his ass to get a job, he didn't pay for shit either (not studio time, not even his mic!). Also, Jerry said alot of the music was worked through by him and the other band mates. Glenn would come up with a basic idea, and the rest off the band would say "hey let's do it this way" or "I think it should go like this here". Isn't that the way most bands write their songs? I know Glenn wrote all the lyrics, that's not so awe striking to me, seeing most singers write the lyrics to what they sing (Duh!). And so what if Glenn played a couple instruments on a FEW song. Not very well I might add. Look how bad he FUCKED UP Earth A.D. American Nightmare was very cool though. But Jerry sung back up, he sould get some credit too! In closing, while there is no denying Glenn's talent (if not genius), he's not a one man band. Love ya, Mike ------------------------------ From: Geoffrey King Subject: a couple of things Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:08:22 -0500 (EST) to somebody in the last bible who wanted to know who sings on Black Flag's nervous breakdown 7"...that would be Keith Morris of the circle jerks. he was the original flag singer. he was ok, i like him because he sounds like completely drunk off of his ass when he's at the end of nervous breakdown. to conjugate "to die" in latin would be...well...death is mors, mort* and after the star you have to use the declensions to make the ending, sort of like in halloween II where it sounds like "blah blah exorcis mortem" or something. but the verb to die is morior, mori, mortuus...those are the 3 parts since it's a deponent verb. i don't expect you to understand that, but oh well. i'll try and translate evil never dies. malum numquam moritur. (sorry if that was extremely boring, but i'm studying for my latin final which i have tomorrow (wednesday.)) another glenn moment: i remember watching this short lived late night show on mtv called "superock"...danzig was on it, and there was some chick hosting it, and tehy were in a comic book store talking about glenn's new line of comics and bullshit...so the girl finally says to him "what do you think when you see kids paying up to 200 dollars for a misfits 7" which is most likely a bootleg?" glenn said something like "well, that's too bad, and they should watch out for that. But i don't wanna talk about that anymore since it's not part of my life anymore." my words could be off, but he said something to that effect...if anyone saw it, just correct me. i was wondering, and this is a silly question, but has danzig ever been married, or his he involved with anyone right now? i could see him with some little swimsuit model or something, being mr. rockstar. that would be pretty cool. oh well ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 13:48:25 -0500 From: shro@postoffice.ptd.net (Droog) Subject: Re: Lets Talk about it >WHAT IS A REASONABLE PRICE TO PAY FOR THE KRYST THE CONQUERER CD? i >RECENTLY GOT INTO A SHOUTING MATCH WITH THIS PRICK THAT OWNS THE LOCAL >SHITTY RECORD STORE BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO LOWER THE PRICE ON IT TO > $15 FROM $25, HE SAYS THAT IT IS SO RARE THAT BARELY ANY OTHER STORE HAS IT. >sHOULD i BUY IT OR NOT? In case you care, i saw it at my local used CD store for like $8, just to give you an idea. --Pete, The Droog =========================================== |"Each one of us, in his timidity, has | |a limit beyond which he is outraged. It is| |inevitable that he who by concentrated | |application has extended this limit for | |himself, should arouse the resentment | |of those who have accepted conventions | |which, since accepted by all, require | |no initiative of application. And this | |resentment generally takes the form of | |meaningless laughter or criticism, if not | |persecution. But this apparent violation | |is preferable to the monstrous habits | |condoned by etiquette and estheticism" | | | | --Man Ray, Paris 1934 | ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 11:20:25 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Issue This is a long post - don't read it if you'll complain --->Adam Christensen Said (Yelled): >HEY MARK! COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME? >WHAT IS A REASONABLE PRICE TO PAY FOR THE KRYST THE CONQUERER CD? i >RECENTLY GOT INTO A SHOUTING MATCH WITH THIS PRICK THAT OWNS THE LOCAL >SHITTY RECORD STORE BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO LOWER THE PRICE ON IT TO >$15 FROM $25, HE SAYS THAT IT IS SO RARE THAT BARELY ANY OTHER STORE HAS Tell the guy he's full of shit. Don't pay more than $15 bucks for the CD. While I have your attention, please don't type in all caps. On the net this is considered shouting, which is a kind of nice way of saying it's hard to read. People read by word shape recognition. When everything is in caps all the words look like rectangles. >ALSO, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE DEVILOCK, DID JERRY OR >GLENN HAVE ONE FIRST AND WHO STARTED CALLING THEM DEVILOCKS? DOES IT >HAVE TO DO WITH THE SONG? This is from the Interview with Jerry Only by Mike Stax. Ugly Things Magazine #12. MS: Not long after Bullet the horror image really started, right? JO: Yes, as a matter of fact it came in right between Bullet and Horror Business. That's when I came up with the devilock thing. MS: How'd you come up with that? JO: Well, at the time when Horror Business was released, I had this electric blue hair - not the sissy turquoise color, it was like brand new denim jeans! (laughs) It was really slick. So I had this thing, my hair started to grow. What happened was, as it got longer I just kept messin' with it, so I did this wave thing with it - this tidal wave do. And as it got longer it just grew down the front. Then we did our hair black and that was it! Once we got this "Horror Business" thing, all of a sudden we had an identity. We looked good, and all of a sudden the sound was right. MS: What did you use to keep the devilock in place? Hairspray? JO: Some hairspray, but in the end I would up using Vaseline, 'cos the hairspray was really burnin' my eyes. Those of you that haven't had the opportunity to read this, don't worry. I am in the process of typing the entire interview, with Mike's permission of course. It will be available on the mark's web page, my web page and via FTP. --->Ken Graf said: >I know the Misfits plan to go on tour and play old stuff and new stuff, and >you will be able to hear it at the shows, but what if they try to release >another album like Max's? If it has all new stuff on it, does Glenn have >any say about wheather or not it can be released? For example, if the >Misfits go in the studio, record an album with all new tracks, and try to >release it, can Glenn stop them? If he tries, I think it'll be real shitty >of him. Whenever the Misfits release an album of_old_material both Jerry & Glenn must agree on the release. The same holds true for Glenn. Glenn snuffed out Max's X-mas, Jerry could have done the same with Collection II, but Jerry is not like Glenn. Since Jerry owns the name Misfits at this point, he can put out _anything_ new that he wants, without fear of reprisals from Glenn. Any older tunes he can also release if he has Glenn's approval. As far as live shows go, Jerry can do whatever the fuck he wants, as long as the advertising for the show makes specific reference that the band _does not_ feature Glenn Danzig. --->B.M. Fama Said: >hmmm last time I checked Glenn Danzig wrote (and owned all rights) to all >songs the Misfits ever recorded (except "Rat Fink"), sang on all >Misfits songs (and even played instruments on several), was a >founding-member of the band (as well as the one who forcibly disbanded >them for over a decade, during which time HE alone was the Misfits) >distributed and manufactured Misfits t-shirts, and released Misfits albums >through his own record company Plan 9, etc etc etc. Just on a hunch, I'd >say the first item in my list alone makes the Misfits a Glenn Danzig band. No one is debating the fact that Glenn wrote (lyrics) for all the songs. but lyrics alone do not a band make. The Misfits were not Samhain and they were not Danzig, the 'Fits were a band, not a solo project. Personally I don't think that the lyrics are all that important anyway, for the most part you can't understand a word he's saying. Glenn may be able to play a decent guitar today but then he couldn't. Glenn is a user, an abuser, and a fairly good spin doctor. If it was just isolated instances of him being a jerk, I might be able to agree with you. But time and again he proves himself an asshole. As far as Glenn being the Misfits for over a decade, yes, this is true. It is true not because he was allowed to be, but because he went behind everyone's back and copyrighted everything in his name. This is fact, not fiction. The Misfits financed his rise, as Danzig. He alone had the tapes that have been released as Boots. >> just that lately his music has become a bit to "cock rocky" for me. >>Really, >> think about "Until you call on the dark" this tune really gives me the >> feeling of Motely crue on MTV. >uhhh...have you been drinking? Motley Crue?? no, seriously, Motley Crue??? Just a bad example, the song is clearly anthemic and childish (lyrically) it prays on the hormonal imbalance of pubescent boys. I can just picture an audience of 16 y.o.'s thrusting there fist into the air to the beat of the music, banging they're proverbial heads. Give me "Sistinas" anyday. >anyway, Crimson, I read your post in the next Bible (#129) and I have to >agree with your comments. No hostility here, either. So we don't need to >call a truce anyway. No, a truce would be boring. We just fundamentally disagree on certain things. You are 19 and got into it through Danzig. I, on the other hand, am 30 and have been into punk since the 70's. I got into the Misfits 3 years ago after having to listen to Jerry, Doyle, & Chud (Sometimes Robo) play EVERY FUCKING DAY. Personally I'd rather listen to The Clash's Sandinista album, but hey, the Misfits are really a great band, original and creative. Glenn's just not so inovative these days. I'm not picking on you because of your age either, you have a good head on your shoulders, we just don't agree. I see your point and I believe when you read my posts you see where I'm coming from. --->Gala said: >Second, anyone notice that if Glenn hates the Misfits so much, he keeps >putting out Misfits stuff , why doesnt he put out a Samhain That's simple, It wouldn't sell as much. With all the recent covers of misfits tunes (ie:Metellica and Guns n Roses) the Misfits have become somewhat seminal. When Danzig got popular, in print he was always mentioned as "Glenn Danzig formerly of The Misfits". In short, who, besides us, would buy a samhain album, let alone a box set? --->Tom Spence said: >Ha! Hard core rules ('specially Agnostic Front) but the hardcore Misfits >are definitally less interesting to listen to than the old Misfits from >Legacy. The OLD Misfits stuff from Legacy?? Legacy of brutality is so overdubed that it makes collection II look archival. Legacy is not the Misfits, it's glenn. Listen to the 7"'s if you don't agree. >and drummer (Chud? - shitty name too!) an You should know what you are talking about before you speak if you plan to post with such authority. Chud is taken from the movie C.H.U.D. meaning Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller. In Chud's case it would be Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Drummer. I believe that this is an appropriate name considering the band. btw: that would be Dr. Chud to you. > From: brian trainor > ok, so far, i've been indirectly called jeuvenile, idiotic, and may other I think I was guilty of calling you juvenile. I think I told you to grow up, after you said "Glenn Danzig can die for all I care" attack me I you must but I say it again, this is exactly the petty shit throwing that is annoying, if you don't have something intelligent to say don't say it. Instead of saying you don't like Glenn why don't you expound on why, and be prepared with facts because this list will destroy you if you can't back it up. --->Bile666@aol.com >I was wondering if anyone who's taken Latin can help me out ... How do you >say "Evil Never Dies"? It's for something I'm writing. I know "evil" is >"malum" and "never" is "nunquam" but I neither know how to conjugate "to >die" nor which order the words should go in. Are there any Latin scholars >out there who can give me a hand? Nunquam is too general a word to use, it's like the english word "thing" it can mean just about anything, although it does connotate a negative meaning. The word "Malum" literally means bad. The best I can come up with would be: Nehil Malum Mortet = Nothing Bad Dies It's snowing like a motherfucker outside and my Latin dictionary is at the storage bin. Hope this helps. --->anthony daniel said: > This last Thursday I attended a signing at Einstein's Comics >here in Dallas, TX, at which Eric Canete (Igrat/Aeon Flux artist) and >Glenn Danzig were the guests. As I made it up to the table, Canete >politely informed me that Glenn would have nothing to do with "the brown >one", meaning Collection II. As soon as I had asked why, Glenn chimed >in saying that he had "nothing to do with it". He went on to say that >they are supposed to go through him with the graphic design, but didn't. Again Glenn saying he had nothing to do with it. It was his project from the start. To nick pick about the art and the lyrics at this point is an excuse for him not to recognize it. Any self-respecting fiend wouldn't argue to the fact that his hands are all over the musical content of the album, which is what your buying in the first place, not the fucking packaging. I don't give a fuck how politely he puts his refusal, he's still wrong. Hey Caroline Records, why don't you stop sending him a check for a little bit just to see how much he's really involved in the record? Well I've rambled on way too long, I hope everyone has a great holiday. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % "...they were a bunch of assholes If I could find the * * plug, I'd pull it and let the whole island sink..." % % Jerry Only - talking about Great Britain * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:58:07 -0500 From: "V. Tepes" Subject: my view I suppose it is all about speaking your mind whether people like it or not, so here goes... There were quite a few good posts last issue (#130) regarding the whole Danzig/Misfits feud. It can all be said, however, in a few words that we should all think about every once in a while as we bash on Danzig. If it were not for him, there would have been NO Misfits (though some may say otherwise). The difference between him and the Misfits (nothing against them at all, don't misinterpret me) is that he has moved on to different things, progressed. Whether the 'fits have done so remains to be seen, at least until they put out new music. The point is, Glenn no longer wants to be in the Misfits, and that isn't something we should hold against him because we don't like that view. I believe this has been said in one way or another, but don't judge Glenn as a person (ie, "Glenn is an asshole," "Glenn has no dick whatsoever,"-actual quotes) just because you would rather listen to Misfits than Danzig, which is actually more mature music, though I won't say that it has greater value. As for Collection II: I finally got it--dinky Hagerstown, MD finally got one copy in one record store--and I love it, with exceptions, of course. It's a great concept, bringing less available songs to people who don't have access to $40 boots and whatnot. And Return of the Fly is an awesome song. However, I think I figured out why people are putting it down as I listened to Braineaters, retching my guts out. Most of the people who bash C2 have other copies of the songs, which may or may not be superior to these, but at any rate they feel threatened because young punks like myself now have copies of last caress. Also, they have some sort of nostalgic ties to the old tunes and the old versions. WAU was the first Misfits album I heard, and I know that I consider that album's tracks on c2 to be utter blasphemy. Hate Breeders isn't bad, I like it at a faster speed, but Nike a-go-go is pretty bad, and I won't even begin to talk about Brain Eaters. My guess is that all the old fans feel the same way about the new versions of Attitude, We are 138, and the rest. 'nuff space taken, VT ------------------------------ Subject: "malum nunquam abolesco" (was "Evil Never Dies") Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:48:27 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Duran > From: Bile666@aol.com > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 09:43:51 -0500 > Subject: "Evil Never Dies" > > I was wondering if anyone who's taken Latin can help me out ... How do you > say "Evil Never Dies"? It's for something I'm writing. I know "evil" is > "malum" and "never" is "nunquam" but I neither know how to conjugate "to > die" nor which order the words should go in. Are there any Latin scholars > out there who can give me a hand? abolesco - to die, perish, vanish morior - to die, wither away, decay i think you'd probably want to use the 1st one. as for the order of words, while i don't know latin grammar, the spanish ordering would (literally) translate to either "never dies evil" or "evil never dies". so i guess either "malum nunquam abolesco" or "nunquam abolesco malum". i'm highly inclined toward the former tho'. -- richard duran rduran@cs.utep.edu ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 10:41:13 -0500 Subject: more stuff >>Alright, alright, alright, already. I would like to start off by saying >>THANK YOU!!!! to whoever put the post about the SESSIONS catalog. No problem. You're welcome. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 11:50:34 -0500 From: pmack@shore.net (Dave Asselin) Subject: questions, questions, questions... Okay, I'm throwing these out to the Bible, but we all know Mark's going to end up answering most of them. Anyway... 1) What is the best video footage available of the Misfits? I had the Creepy Compilation until recently, and I thought the "Why Be Something You're Not?" and the Flipside stuff was decent, but the rest just looked hideous. 2) Is there any pre-Doyle video (besides the Studio Zero stuff, which I gather is not available)? 3) When/Why did the band start conforming to a look? What I mean is: Franche', Bobby, Joey, etc. never 'dressed up'. It looks like Jerry started it first (with the blacked-out eyes), but when did the spikes, etc. first start appearing? 4) the Franche' version of "Children in Heat": It was allegedly recorded, but does the tape even exist any more? I didn't find any mention of it in the bootleg discog. Has anyone ouside of the principals ever heard it? 5) Earlier versions of the discography stated that the distribitor of the _Live 79! The Perfect Crime_ bootleg 7" had plans to distribite the entire show. New versions drop that claim. Does he still have the full show, and if so, why isn't he releasing it? 6) If the band can't release the Max's album, why are they holding on to it? Why don't they just try releasing the original (no dubs!) version of it? Although I've never heard the live "Attitude" on the Flipside comp, that was evidently good enough for a record... and hey, Bobby only had 2 strings at that point! Is releasing it through the fan club even an option? I want "Blue Christmas", dammit! End of rant. - Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:33:50 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Mark or Ghost clear this one up For about 3 weeks I thought I had everything clear on this COLLECTION II business that "Cough/Cool", "Hatebreeders", "Braineaters", "Nike-A-Go-Go" and "Devil's Whorehouse" were the Glenn Danzig edited tracks. Now I'm hearing from everyone and their brother that all the tracks are redone for the most part in the vocals at least then all the self-proclaimed Misfits "veterans" start preaching about the great 7" which are impossible to get at a good buy and I'm not inclined to go whooping out big dollars for a 7" that probably has dirt and scratches on it. So please clear up for me the tracks changed. I find no difference in the tracks from their originals. I have a tape of all the original singles plus a few boots and they sound no different except in quality. The ones on the CD are correct and supieor in quality. The 7" are usually off so the guitar and vocals would sound different but all this "difference in voice" stuff I just don't buy. Besides the edited tracks the rest are clearly the Misfits but if you would please just clear it all up things would be just fine. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 05:52:40 -0500 From: Miles@postoffice.ptd.net (ScreamingSlave) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #130 >First off, my reply to mark of lin01826@acad.suffolk.edu: > >First of all, there is no such thing as a punk revival going on. The >only thing going on is a bunch of bands cashing in on MTV. MTV is >the one calling it punk. Punk has nothing to do with Offspring, Green >Day, and all of those other BULLSHIT BUZZBANDS. NOTHING! Get it >straight, if MTV calls it punk, that doesn't mean it is. White >Zombie and Metallica have always been mainstream, and Metallica was >far from a recent sellout. Give me a fucking break about calling >RANCID sellouts. If you had any clue what Tim Armstrong has gone >through, you'd shut the fuck up. They write songs about true life, >not the bullshit the other 'buzz bands' write about. Since this is >the Misfits page, I will leave it at that. > >On the MTV topic: I plead to Jerry, Doyle, Chud, and Michale to stay >with the ideals of the 70's and 80's Misfits, and stay the hell away >from MTV. Stay true! What does not going on MTV have to stay true, now I agree that MTV really tries to sell everything they can get their hands on out.. but I wouldent mind seeing a "new" misfits video in 120min or something somenight.. And also, who cares if a few more people start listening to the misfits, thats rad, aslong as they like the music.. there is noithing wrong with a band trying to get some more fans/coverage/music, it's only when they are cocks to their fans that that should be shot down Evil never dies.... We shall never die... Live in vain.. Die in pain.. -Screaming Slave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 01:36:54 -0500 From: She Subject: in the doorways > From: Adam Christensen > HEY MARK! COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME? > WHAT IS A REASONABLE PRICE TO PAY FOR THE KRYST THE CONQUERER CD? i > ALSO, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE DEVILOCK, DID JERRY OR > GLENN HAVE ONE FIRST AND WHO STARTED CALLING THEM DEVILOCKS? DOES IT > HAVE TO DO WITH THE SONG? If I remember correctly, Crimson Ghost answered this perfectly already. > From: Ken Graf > > will be able to hear it at the shows, but what if they try to release another > about wheather or not it can be released? For example, if the Misfits go in > the studio, record an album with all new tracks, and try to release it, can > Glenn stop them? If he tries, I think it'll be real shitty of him. Glenn can't do anything to stop the Misfits from releasing stuff. He does however have some influence with Caroline, who wants to be sure that all parties involved are pleased. Also they realize that Glenn throws around lawsuits left and right. Who wouldn't worry about such a thing? I was worried for a time that Glenn would try to shut me down. He's seen my page and wasn't too thrilled with it. Some of you may have noticed that the link from the Danzig page to my Misfits page was removed. Ever wonder why? It's hard to please Glenn, and Jerry and Doyle overdubbing onto an old recording didn't help any. > Brett F confirmed the following: > > he wrote All of the misfits stuff. ( could someone please confirm this > > please?) > > confirmed. Hey Fiends, let's get this clear. Glenn was not the only person who wrote all the music. He happens to be the person CREDITED with writing all the music, but Jerry, Doyle, and the others in the band helped him arrange it. Jerry has stated this many times. And if you don't believe me or Jerry, just listen to the 'Rehearsal at the Pit' tape that's floating around. It's quite obvious that Glenn wrote the words and came up with the basic structure of the music, but Jerry, Doyle and Googy helped arrange the other parts of the songs (Die Die, Queen Wasp, and Hate Breeders). > From Holister: > Both of these are very important here. Danzig is a "related band," so is > Samhain, The Undead, Kryst.., Black Flag, and a few others. Thus, FUCK YOU! > For many of us, our interest in the Misfits began with Danzig and went > backwards from there. Most of us weren't even close to attending junior > high when the Misfits broke up. Thus it's hard to fill in a lot of the > blanks without learning about the other bands as well. Mark, EVB, CG, and > numerous others have give all of us a plethora of information on all the > bands. You two aren't the ones who put this out. However, Mark is, and > Mark gives all of us, even morons like you two, the opportunity to > contribute. Don't be fooled by the fact that this is entitled The Misfits > Bible, or that Mark's web page is Misfits Central. This is to help us learn > and keep updated on all of the bands. I know for a fact that if it wasn't Right on. > Whoever mentioned the thing about the Earth A.D. gold disc not being rare > (by the way, the page says that there are only 5000 copies of it, I think), The page does say 5000. These are the numbers I got from Caroline a few years ago when I called up and got someone at the office. Caroline seems to be quiet lately, so I doubt they'll bother to correct us if we're wrong, but I have a feeling the number is wrong. > From: Crimson Ghost > Actually I believe our fearless host, Mark, has already fucked up his locks > with the infamous ass-backwards pony-tail....mark? Fucked up my hair? No way. I spent a lot of time looking at Michale's hair, making sure I could get a good devilock. After seeing the guys at Coney Island, I knew I had no choice. So no I have a high quality un-fucked-up devilock. Very nice. > The UK magazine Kerrang! has just done a review of Collection II... if any US > people are interested in me typing it up for the Bible let me know. A word of > warning though... you ain't gonna like it! > Julian Julian - if you've got the time, please type it up. I'd love to see it. > QUESTION TO SAMHAIN FANS (or anyone with knowledge about them): > I have heard that SAMHAIN is pronounced sa whim. Anyone know if > that is true??? It's an ancient celtic/gaelic/irish word pronounced sa win. So you're almost there. By the way fiends, I added yet another paper on the origin of Samhain to the page, so check out the articles section for more info on Samhain. mark ------------------------------ From: CONLON@apsicc.aps.edu Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 23:50:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: Misfits stuff in abq, nm I'm just wondering if anyone out there knows of any places in albuquerque, new mexico that carry misfits stuff. I've found like 1 boot laying around adn that's it. Sorry to post this lame message, but hey, i'm gettin desperate. -Zac ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 01:53:44 -0500 From: She Subject: SA Posters More Static Age posters are available, so I'll be coming up with another contest soon. In fact, I'll reserve a poster for the top 4 people who can answer these questions (all but #4 are from back issues) 1) What is the name of my roommate? 2) What is my brother's name? 3) Which 2 MBible subscribers were organizing a Misfits tribute tape? 4) What is the longest Misfits song? mark ------------------------------ From: Sean Subject: More Sightings Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 02:08:09 +0000 Misfits here Misfits there Misfits every Fucking where!!! I was watching the movie "Love Affair" today and in the aiport departure scene there is a guy wearing the skull shirt.....And in the movie "3:15" they show the back of this class room and a guy is wearing the skull shirt backwards!!! Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:28:11 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #128 >Writing different music in 1995 than you did from 1977-83 does not make >you a sell-out, it makes you a creative person who is not trying to live >in the past and rehash clever (but comparatively, somewhat childish) music. I have two words for you: FUCK OFF!! Childish music?!?!?! Who the fuck the are you to say that one? From: Leedguitar@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 02:42:08 -0500 Subject: New versions >If anyone wants to know, Metallica Recorded London Dungeon to use as a >B-side for one of their singles from the new album due out in March. Interesting tidbit where did you get that from? I hope it will be as good as the Misfits did it!!!! Well fiends my time is up so I'll just keep lookind forward to issue #138!! "Who are you, to tell me who I am?" The Lonley Misfit ------------------------------ From: MisfitB@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 02:13:57 -0500 Subject: Keep it up The Lonley Misfit here. Kudos to all of the fiends bringing in the sightings. I have a book of over two hundred sights now. So keep up the good work. Adding one to list now. I went to see Green Day. The drummer (Who I might add has some unbeliavable talent.)(One of the best I have ever seen.)(Fuck all prejudice of the band, this guy has talent.)was wearing a Die Die shirt. You are the ones who live the lives of those who choose to cower in corners. Society has cast them out. Music will reel them in and bring us closer. The Lonley Misfit Grayslake Press, 1995 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 95 14:43:50 0000 From: "." Subject: FROM ME TO YOU ALL! MERRY X-MAS EVERYBODY!!! . . . . . . . . . .. . . ------------------------------ From: jschulz@inwave.com Date: Sat, 09 Dec 1995 04:53:54 -0600 Subject: Horror Business Hey Fiends! This is my first blah blah blah... I have been on the list for a little over a week now, and have read the last 4 issues, plus the first 23 and counting. Gotta love it. I have been a Misfits fan for years (got into them at 14, 23 now) but there aint shit in my area for good shops to buy Fits stuff. The only bootleg I have is the Beware: complete singles German CD. But I was wonderin if anyone can help me out. I have an old tape from HS with 1 single Misfits song. Horror Business. Its a version I have never heard on any of my CDs (earthAD, LOB, Coll2. MISFITS,BEWARE). Its a bit faster, and the end verse is different. It's "Nobody can do what I can do FOR YOU". Anyone got any ideas? Maybe a live track or somemthing? I love that version (although my copy is a bit worn out), and would sell my own worthless soul for the album it came from. Sorry to bore you with my insignificant bullshit, but hell I was bored. There are no people near me that are into the Fits. I freaked when I did a scan for Misfits on the WWW and found this. Too f*ckin cool. I have learned alot from you guys so far. BTW, you guys are like the "unholy Misfits librarians from hell". I think I have found a home here. Keep it up. The bible is the best thing on the Internet (Besides http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/). (Sin)...cerely Some other Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:57:38 EST From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: AGNOSTIC FRONT -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- DO ANY OF YOU BIBLE SUBSCRIBERS OUT THERE HAVE ANY AGNOSTIC FRONT VIDEOS??? I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY, AND DONT KNOW IF THEY EXIST, LET ALONE ANYONE OWNING ONE. REPLY VIA E-MAIL PLEASE. AFNF12A@PRODIGY.COM THANKS....TIM FROM PORTLAND ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 19:04:45 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dempz Subject: bowels... Damn that was funny, it's probably Bauhaus, not Bowelhouse. I like that better though. Anyway, the Black Flag singer who did Nervous Breakdown was Keith Morris, their first singer, and after that ep he went on to front the Circle Jerks forever. Other Black Flag singers have done that tune live and maybe even recorded it, I'm not completely sure...Agnostic rule Dempz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 03:30:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Bad Ninja Subject: Black Flag Tom Spence : Keith Morris sung 'Nervous Breakdown' and 'Fix Me' on the 'Nervous Breakdown' 7" (SST001?). What I can't remember without looking in my records is if those songs were sung by others too (check the 'and everything went black' compilation). Yannis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 03:07:38 -0500 From: She Subject: Chyna CHYNA Samhain fans will be glad to know that Steve Zing is back with a new band. Chyna consists of the following Lodi, NJ musicians: * Steve Zing - lead vocals, percussion * Elio Tommasi - guitar, vocals * Joseph Jay - keyboards, vocals * Tommy Hunter - bass, vocals * Johnnie Rago - drums * Mike Herman - saxophone, electronic winds Their debut album, released in December of 1995 on FLX Records, features the following songs: Chyna - In The Night 1. All Alone 2. Rain On My Parade 3. In The Night 4. My World 5. Eyes In The Mist 6. Looking Out 7. One Moment In Time 8. Eddie's Song 9. Wild Blossom 10. Hold Me Close 11. Heaven Knows This is Steve's first appearance since 1986's "Runaway" single. His new stuff is completely different from anything he's done before, so check it out. Complete your Samhain collection by getting this CD. It costs $8 from: FLX RECORDS P.O. BOX 948 LODI, NJ 07644-0948 __________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:45:15 EST From: MR MIKE D MOLLURA Subject: Merry X-mas -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Hey Fiends, Just wanted to say Merry X-mas from all your pals at Leech. 5 Song Demo (with cover of Some Kinda Hate) Send 4$ to: Mike Mollura 21 Golfview Lane Reading Pa 19606 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:37:22 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Scarecrow Beast and The Simpsons Hey Mark and everyone, This may or may not be on the page but the part with the pictures doesnt say anything about it. I dont recall where I got this info but it seems no one really has a name for the Danzig skull, and I dont know if it was in an interview with Glenn or what, but I've always referred to the skull as the Scarecrow Beast. Has anyone else ever heard of this or am I mistaken. Just curious but I've been calling it that for as long as its been around. And on another note, a couple of bibles ago some people thought it was weird that the simpsons had a special for the 138th show and thought maybe Matt Groening was a closet Misfits fan. Well has anyone ever noticed that one of the little bullies of the town wears a crimson ghost shirt all the time (at least it looks like a way to have him wearing one without having to pay for it, cause it's not really drawn right). I just thought it was funny. Later, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:31:56 -0500 Subject: Hello! Hey all, Just a note. Unfortunately one of my VCRs is now in VCR heaven. Therefore, if you want a video taped, I apologize, but I will not be able to do so. For all of you who I owe videos to. Fear not! I am borrowing a friend's for the week, and I will be able to finish yours. Sorry about that. Does anyone in the Chicago area know where I can get some 7" vinyl printed up? Chris ------------------------------ From: vandal@aloha.net Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:19:05 -1000 (HST) Subject: DANZIG vs. MISFITS & OTHER STUFF This is my first post to the Bible..etc...etc... Anyway, lets get down to business... Let me be counted as saying that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with talking about DANZIG on this page, whether it be his current album, in relation to his work with the MISFITS, or just about what a cool guy/prick he is... I think B.M. Fama's words on this were very clear...this page deals with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that deals with the MISFITS...and that includes DANZIG. Period. I am much more a Misfits fan than a Danzig fan, but I admit that Glenn's music has matured greatly since those old days of B-Movie lyrics and three chord punk. There is nothing wrong with Danzig wanting to remove himself from being associated with the Misfits...I don't think anyone wants to be linked to ONLY what they've done TEN years ago and not now...(I certainly don't want people to remember me for all the stupid things i've done in youth...) The creative process is progressive....Danzig's various musical incarnations reflect his moving on...and I for one admire him for it. When he played in Hawaii about three years ago(?) my friends and I got to meet him backstage and I have to say that he was tolerant and personable...I mentioned to him that I was a Misfits fan and he politely ignored the comment, so I never mentioned the Misfits again...Maybe you people have had different encounters with him, and I have heard the Horror Stories about him with the Misfits...but all I can say is he was cool to us.... For what its worth...I was first exposed to the Misfits as a little skater/punker dork in 1987...still in junior high. An older friend of mine had LOB, WAU and the MISFITS tapes...He had seen them live (or so he said) in the mainland (I live in hawaii). I was enthralled by the catchy tunes and "B-Film Born" lyrics (I AM A DIEHARD FAN OF SHITTY 50's HORROR/SCIFI TRASH)...and to this day I still think the MISFITS ARE THE BEST PUNK BAND THAT EVER WAS!! I got into Samhain, too, and not long after that Danzig started up. I still think that Danzig is a hell of a singer and songwriter.....SO THERE! One other thing before I quit this ramble....for the longest time I always thought the lyrics for "HORROR BUSINESS" were "you...I would've liked drowning you...I'm warning you.." instead of the "i'll put a knife right in you.." Pretty stupid, huh? I like Glenn's lyrics better. Let's here more of everyone's lyrical interpretations... Thanks for listening to my nonsense and feel free to tear it up...I hope get in touch with MISFITS/DANZIG fans...around the U.S.... Its's lonely here on this ISLAND.... VANDAL "THE ABOMINABLE DR. PHIBES" ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: evildon's question of the month hello fiends! about once a month i'll be posting a nonsensical question to the bible to just lighten things up a bit and just to see what some of you think. here's the first question: who's devilock's were better the misfits or samahin? this is not a question about who you think is a better band, who played mephisto waltz or whatever so take a close look a both band's and decide. try to use initium and walk among us as a reference if you have a hard time deciding. you can respond to me or the bible and when the next question comes up i'll post the results to the old one. come on, lighten up and tell us what you think. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 16:14:11 -0500 Subject: attitude i was listening to attitude last night and i am almost possitive it's: "...inside your feetal brain there's probably a whore, if you don't shut your mouth you're gonna' feel the floor..." i know you probably don't care but i figured i'd offer a suggestion to the ongoing question about it. i mean, it even rhymes. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach "...your bullshit lesson learned..." "perrenial", eustress urchin ------------------------------ Subject: Mike Graves From: brian trainor Date: Sat, 23 Dec 95 23:33:54 EST i was just wondering if anyone had any info on Mike Graves i.e. other bands he may have been in, where they found him, stuff like that. thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:58:38 -0500 (EST) From: "C.G. Walters" Subject: "Omen" lettering available I have the true-type font for your "Omen" lettering (actually casablanca-antique). Anyone who want a copy can send me a disk & postage. I'll send it immediately to you. e-mail if you give a shit & want it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:22:29 -0800 From: Devilman138 Subject: Glenn Danzig Check this place out if you already haven't: www.insv.com/verotik/ ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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I can't be bothered to make responses to every littel comment made, but someone chastised me for calling the Misfits "childish" music in the last Bible. Read my post again, buddy: I said it was "comparatively childish" (ie: to Danzig) and if you have a problem with that then your I.Q. must be pretty low. You call lines like "hack the heads off little girls and put 'em on my wall" mature?? Don't get me wrong, the song ("Skulls") is great and very clever BUT>>> I DID NOT SAY THE MISFITS' LYRICS/SONGS WERE BAD, I SAID THAT, COMPARED TO DANZIG'S, THEY ARE SOMEWHAT CHILDISH. I know I am inviting the flames for this one, but I don't care. Also, Mark argued that Glenn did not write all Misfits songs. Okay, I'm not gonna get into (another) whole argument about hwo wrote what, but if someone writes all lyrics and music *EVEN IF JERRY and DOYLE* came up with some changes and arrangements, WHO should be credited with writing the dsongs?? The guy who wrote the first 90-95% or the guys who came up with a few changes later on when recording or rehearsing? Okay, I don't wanna start a whole long argument (like I did a few months ago) on who contributed most to the Misfits. I feel this is treading on reducing Jerry's and the others' roles in the band, which is not something I want to do, or ever wanted to do in the first place. One last thing, someone else responding to one of my posts said Glenn played instruments only on "a few" Misfits songs. (NOT IF YOU INCLUDE LEGACY OF BRUTALITY). BTW, as far as I know, Glenn DID NOT lay on Earth A.D., so I don't know how you can claim Glenn "fucked this up" (or whatever exactly you said). lastly, anyone who flames EVB for the comments she made will die by my hand. I notice that, even when I write a HUGE post explaining my reasons for defending Glenn, someone invariably responds either misquoting me or ignoring 1/2 of what I said. As CG suggested, IF YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING, *BACK IT UP* OR GIVE REASONS!!! Just spitting out opinions and flames against someone else who has intelligently thought-out his post is not what should be going on. Disagreement is great, but if you just say "you suck", then you only add to the Bible's word-count, not its quality. that's it. -Brett "all the things you hold most dear ...gone!" ------------------------------ Subject: Apology From: brian trainor Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 21:40:54 EST i'd just like to say, sorry. i was fooled when this said "The Misfits Bible" i guess. i still stand true to what i believe in as far as i don't like Glenn Danzig, and i don't like Danzig(with the SLIGHT exception of It's Coming Down because it strikes some odd chord in me), and i'm not going back on that. but, oh, well. i guess now i know, and i can contribute what i can as far as info on Black Flag or the Undead info i get and stuff. so, sorry. i made a mistake. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:35:03 -0800 From: Mike Westlake Subject: evb and what not hello fiends, i was really happy to hear that EVB is alive and kicking, but it made me sad to hear her remarks about the many Misfits, anti-Glenn, etc. postings we've had on this list. I can't say that the Misfits we're ever just Glenn's band. Jerry (as well as others) obviously contributed immensely to the band. However, I think a lot of today's debate over the two of them stems from the fact that Jerry and Glenn appear to have completely different personalities. Glenn has always shown the desire to go forward without looking back (Check the old Samhain interviews on the page). That does take a lot of determination (whether you guys want to say it's because of money only or not) to do so. We evolve. We change. I will admit, it is a hell of a lot easier to go forward if you ignore or trash events in your past. That's a part of life. It's not pleasant, but it's something that many of us do. How many of us say that Michael Jackson really sucks? I do. But if we go back ten-twelve years, did many of us (most, probably) have Thriller blaring out of our cassette decks or record players? I sure did. I'm not doing the things I was doing five years ago. I'm sure most of you weren't either. Why should Glenn go back 12 years to make something happen again (which, by the way, could never be the same) if he doesn't want to? Robert Plant and Jimmy Page can get together all they want, but they'll never be able to regain the presence they had with Led Zeppelin. I'm almost tempted to call Glenn a visionary. He's looking to see what he can do next. Maybe it will be great. Maybe it will suck. Glenn's perseverance to look forward instead of back DOES deserve some respect. Jerry seems to be running more of a grassroots campaign these days. He knows that there are many, many Misfits fans out there who would love to see the band come back. As long as Jerry, Doyle, Chud, and Michale enjoy what they do, the more power to them. I know I'm certainly waiting for them to reach the west coast. Having the Misfits of today play the old songs...well, that's fine with me. Ozzy still plays black sabbath tunes (I think). However, I'm not going to really place judgment until they put out some new material. The new Misfits aren't a reunion tour! The new Misfits consist of four people, and Glenn is not one of them. Well, I'm quite content with that. The new Misfits will evolve as well. I doubt their new stuff with capture the past fully, but that's because we're going to look at it from that perspective. The new material may be really cool, but it seems we expect a certain "standard." If they put out a couple of good albums, why should we complain? Jerry cares a lot about Misfits fans, both old and new. If he can make people happy by playing Misfits music, he will. HE IS! Obviously a lot of the new Misfits focus right now is on the past. Why not? Some questions are finally being answered. We're learning that there is another side to the story. Some of the old albums are finally being put out. We had to wait 12 years! So, why are we complaining? Collection II: Yes, it was Glenn's project. Yes, he stepped in front of the Static Age and Max's X-Mas releases. Yes, he's denying that he had anything to do with it. Yes, he fucked with some of the tracks. Why? I don't really know. Maybe that's just the way Glenn is. Perhaps if he wasn't constantly badgered about the Misfits he'd be a little more willing to go along with things. Most Danzig articles always seem to mention that Glenn was part of the Misfits. In most Danzig interviews he's asked about the Misfits. And in the future I'm sure most Misfits articles will mention that Glenn used to be part of the band. How can Glenn manage to detach himself from the Misfits if nobody will let him? He's not looking back, yet we always assume it's just to piss everyone off. Maybe he likes the image of an asshole (sorry EVB, but he does show that image quite often when it comes to stuff like this). Now granted, I think he could have handled the whole Misfits situation a lot better than he has. I seriously doubt he's every looked back and said: "The Misfits sucked, why the fuck did I ever do that!" So he has more power with Caroline than Jerry does, but that's the past record he's got. That's the way it is. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you buy it and don't like it, sell it to someone who will. Glenn can be an asshole. I've often thought that myself. I think this really showed in John Christ's tour diary in RIP. He does what he wants to do. If you don't like it, fine. I don't care. He doesn't care. I love the music he puts out. Regarding the music, it doesn't matter to me if it's the Misfits, Samhain, or Danzig. The difference comes on what I expect him to tell us. I don't expect him to give us his breakdown of why Jerry should or should not attempt to bring any life back into the Misfits. I don't expect to hear his perspective on John and Eerie leaving the band over the summer (though I am certainly interested). However, I do expect him to fill us in on the new album and give us his perspective of it, as well as telling us what's going on with Verotik. That's reasonable. Wanting him to reminisce about the past isn't. That's just not the way he is. Glenn has made my life a little more bearable, and I'm very glad he continues to go forward instead of back. It's not easy to drive a car down the twisted road of life if you're constantly looking over your shoulder and grabbing something out of the back seat. If you don't like Glenn, fine, I can understand that. But I respect what he does, and even the way he does it. I haven't always agreed with the way he goes about things, and I doubt I ever will (the thing to note here is that it's "his" life to do with as he pleases, not mine to manipulate as I wish). Jerry and Glenn are different people. Stop expecting Glenn to be Jerry or Jerry to be Glenn. It's not going to happen, so just deal with it. The Misfits of new will never, NEVER be the Misfits of old. Can Nirvana ever be Nirvana again without Kurt Cobain? (okay, so I'm comparing the Misfits to Nirvana, but it proves my point) NO. However, I'm really looking forward to seeing Jerry and company. They've got a chance to make a lot of people happy with their efforts, and I truly hope to be one of them. So, for EVB, I hope you stick it out with us. I'm sure any info you can give us on Glenn or Danzig V or whatever will be greatly appreciated by many of us. You've been part of this list for a very long time and have contributed more than I ever hope to. We need you here. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say how grateful I am for your contributions. Mike Tehachapi, CA holister@summit.tminet.com mw005d@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:44:53 -0500 Subject: Mark Death JERRY ONLY INTERVIEW BY MARK DEATH 1. How old were you when you joined the Misfits? I was 17. 2. When you first joined the Misfits, what was your goal? To play hard music. 3. How come the Static Age LP was never released? We didn't have the money. 4. How do you feel about the Undead, Danzig, musically? It's not what I listen to. I like Priest and Maiden better. 5. What were your best and worst shows with the Misfits? The best was the Whiskey in L.A. The worst was in Houston. 6. What was the first Misfits show like? Strange. 7. Has Kryst had a show yet? Not yet. 8. What is your favorite Misfits 7" and LP? I like them all. 9. How do you feel about all the Misfits bootlegs? Do you own any? I don't like it. I own all I can find. 10. Do you think of yourself as a living legend? Not yet. 11. Is Kryst planning a tour anytime soon? Yes. 12. Do you think Kryst will ever be as big as the Misfits were? Hard to say. 13. In regards to the Misfits, would you do anything different? Yes, a lot. 14. What advice do you have for bands just starting out? Go to school. 15. What did "We Are 138" stand for? Robots. 16. How old are you now? 34. 17. Do you get any money from Misfits stuff sold now? Some, just from Slash records. 18. Do you have any closing comments? Good luck! WRITE TO JERRY ONLY AT: PO BOX 310 VERNON NJ 07462 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:03:35 -0600 From: Catherine Ehlinger sorry if this is double posted but i wasnt sure if i sent the first one or not does anyone know how i can get a copy of a misfits show??i would love to see them.also how can i get in touch with jerry??in my spare time i am a roadie/guitar tech and would love to take care of the guys on tour...thanks ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:26:22 -0500 Subject: "Evil Never Dies" I just wanted to thank Crimson Ghost and Richard Duran for helping me out with translating "Evil Never Dies" into Latin. Thanks a lot. Also, I don't know how many of you are as big a fan of Quentin Tarantino's as I am, but I've been waiting for the release of "From Dusk Till Dawn" for close to a year now. It's about two mass murdering, hell-bent bank robbers who stumble into a Mexican strip bar that turns out to be lousy with blood-sucking, gut-ripping, limb-ripping-off, naked vampires. It's my kind of movie. Anyway, if I pray REAL hard, the following Misfits songs would be used in the soundtrack ... 1) "Devil's Whorehouse" 2) "All Hell Breaks Loose" 3) "Last Caress" 4) "American Nightmare" Just a little wish from me during the holiday season ... Also, if anyone's looking for a Misfits type computer font, there aren't too many that fit the bill exactly. One called "Karloff" comes the closest. It's real gnarled and torn up. I tried to commission several people to make up a custom font based on the Misfits and Danzig logos but they all wanted to charge me $100+ and it just wasn't worth it ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: She Subject: In The Doorways Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:05:37 -0500 (EST) > From: pmack@shore.net (Dave Asselin) > > 1) What is the best video footage available of the Misfits? I had the > Creepy Compilation until recently, and I thought the "Why Be Something > You're Not?" and the Flipside stuff was decent, but the rest just looked > hideous. The best I've ever seen besides the 'Why Be Something You're Not' show is EVB's copy of the Boston Channel Club show. > 2) Is there any pre-Doyle video (besides the Studio Zero stuff, which I > gather is not available)? There is stuff out there that was filmed that has not surfaced yet, but otherwise the answer is no. > 3) When/Why did the band start conforming to a look? What I mean is: > Franche', Bobby, Joey, etc. never 'dressed up'. It looks like Jerry started > it first (with the blacked-out eyes), but when did the spikes, etc. first > start appearing? Jerry started it by accident and it just caught on. This was in the summer of '79. When Doyle joined in 1980, he already had the devilock and soon after Glenn conformed to the look. > 4) the Franche' version of "Children in Heat": It was allegedly recorded, > but does the tape even exist any more? I didn't find any mention of it in > the bootleg discog. Has anyone ouside of the principals ever heard it? The Static Age demos were let out back in '86 when Glenn loaned his tape to Curtis (of Taang! Records) for the 'All Hell Breaks Loose' Misfits radio special. Soon after this, bootelgs of the demos magically began appearing all over the place. Because Franche's 'Children In Heat' was never meant to appear on the _Static Age_ album, it wasn't on anyone's copy of the demos for the album. It's on the original master tape for the entire recording session, but not the mixing tapes for the album. Hopefully, it will be released one day. (hint hint, Caroline) > > 5) Earlier versions of the discography stated that the distribitor of the > _Live 79! The Perfect Crime_ bootleg 7" had plans to distribite the entire > show. New versions drop that claim. Does he still have the full show, and > if so, why isn't he releasing it? Not only does he have the full show, but he has two shows recorded on two consecutive nights back in the summer of '79. One day he hopes to see it released. I just thought it was a strange thing to include, so I took it out. > > 6) If the band can't release the Max's album, why are they holding on to it? > Why don't they just try releasing the original (no dubs!) version of it? > Although I've never heard the live "Attitude" on the Flipside comp, that was > evidently good enough for a record... and hey, Bobby only had 2 strings at > that point! Is releasing it through the fan club even an option? I want > "Blue Christmas", dammit! The band has nothing to lose by holding onto it. They won't let it get out just because of the rarity of Blue Xmas. They know that's the song we're all after and we can't hear it because Caroline cancelled it. So they continue to hope... The 'Attitude' on Flipside was not overdubbed in any way, and back then it was only Glenn who was in charge of getting the Misfits on record. Now, the situation's different. Apparently the un-overdubbed version of the show is of too poor quality to be released. > From: Gabriel Palczewski > > For about 3 weeks I thought I had everything clear on this > COLLECTION II business that "Cough/Cool", "Hatebreeders", "Braineaters", > "Nike-A-Go-Go" and "Devil's Whorehouse" were the Glenn Danzig edited > tracks. Now I'm hearing from everyone and their brother that all the > tracks are redone for the most part in the vocals at least then all the > self-proclaimed Misfits "veterans" start preaching about the great 7" > which are impossible to get at a good buy and I'm not inclined to go > whooping out big dollars for a 7" that probably has dirt and scratches on it. > So please clear up for me the tracks changed. I find no > difference in the tracks from their originals. I have a tape of all the > original singles plus a few boots and they sound no different except in > quality. The ones on the CD are correct and supieor in quality. Exactly. For the record: Cough/Cool is overdubbed and partially re-recorded. Hate Breeders, Nike A Go Go, Braineaters, and Devils Whorehouse were all re-recorded. Mephisto Waltz - we all know it's Samhain. The last 5 tracks were supposedly re-mastered although most people probably can't hear the differences. The rest of the tracks are exactly the same. Any differences are in the listener's head. > From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS > > Hey Mark and everyone, > This may or may not be on the page but the part with the pictures doesnt say > anything about it. I dont recall where I got this info but it seems no one > really has a name for the Danzig skull, and I dont know if it was in an > interview with Glenn or what, but I've always referred to the skull as the > Scarecrow Beast. Has anyone else ever heard of this or am I mistaken. Just The Scarecrow beast is the name of the creature on the cover of November-Coming-Fire. It's head is the Samhain/Danzig skull. > From: brian trainor > i was just wondering if anyone had any info on Mike Graves i.e. other > bands he may have been in, where they found him, stuff like that. > thanks. Michale was hanging out in the studio with his friend Bob Alleca back in the spring of this year when Bob suggested he audition for the Misfits. He had never heard them before and went out and bought the first compilation album to see if they were worth trying out. Eventually he went in and auditioned and they loved him. He's been in several bands before (none of which he likes to name) and has opened for The Undead. mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 08:20:19 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost --->Eerie Von Bouras said: >I've been getting a lot of mail asking why I don't post to the bible >anymore, so I figured I'd explain why... Basically, I quess I don't feel >qualified to do so anymore since the definition of what constitutes a >"Misfits fan" seems to have shifted in the minds of many of the more vocal >Bible posters. It seems to me that nowadays to be a "Misfits fan" you gotta >slam Glenn for his steadfast refusal to go back to what he was doing a dozen >years ago instead of moving on. I for one would never slam Glenn for going backwards. Actually I think Cantspeak is the best thing he's done in a long time. My problem with GD is not what he's doing now, my problem is his "steadfast refusal" to discuss a prior band. He not only refuses to discuss it, but repeatedly refuses to recognize it. He also is sometimes abusive to fans when they ask him to sign something ('fits related). I saw Leslie West recently, he has definately moved on musically. When I saw him backstage, he gladly signed a Mountain album for me. Mountain is a band that hasn't been together in what, 25 years? There was also a real sour grapes breakup after Felix died. David Johansen (Buster Poindexter) when asked about the New York Dolls acted similarly, he was appreciative of the fact that someone actually cared what he was doing a long time ago. I would never try to talk to Glenn after a show, I'm not the kind of person to pussyfoot around anything, sure I'd want him to sign 4p, but I couldn't resist asking him to sign WAU and asking him a few questions. I would probably get my ass kicked. In any case it boils down to this: Glenn is a performer, he makes his living off his fans. He makes $'s when you buy Danzig, Samhain and Misfits albums. If it weren't for the fans he would be broke, musical genius or not, without the fans he's nothing. I could care less about what happened back then, he's correct in that respect, it's over, but when a fan asks you to sign a official copy of an album that you sang on, an album your getting royalty checks on, you fucking sign it. Either that or you don't sign anything at all. As for you not being "qualified" to post as a Misfits fan, no offense but that's a cop out. Your a bigger fiend than I am! This list will never be all peace and love towards Glenn you've known that from the start. Regardless we need your input. There's a lot we don't agree upon, but there is a lot that we do. You've also changed my mind on a number of things. So in closing, think 2 or 3 times about what you are going to do. If you leave you will be sorely missed. --->Someone said this in #130: >On the MTV topic: I plead to Jerry, Doyle, Chud, and Michale to stay >with the ideals of the 70's and 80's Misfits, and stay the hell away >from MTV. Stay true! Stay true to what? Some antiquated mindset that says you must starve in order to be "true" to the music you play? If the Misfits were given the chance to have a large audience in 1977 they would have gladly taken it. Face it the way to make money today is by getting on MTV. Glenn experienced a rapid growth of fans after beevis & butthead put "Mother" on their show. Read: Fans = Sales = Revenue. MTV is the FM radio of the next century, embrace it. Yes it may be drenched in advertisements, but hey, so is the internet these days. The ideals and technologies of the 70's & 80's are dead, may they burn in hell. Don't get me wrong, I personally hate MTV, but for different reasons. They never have any music I like on, this to will change. I see multiple MTV's on the horizon, more tailored to individual tastes: ie: Dance, Rap/Hip Hop, Rock, Classic Rock, Alternative etc... This would please everybody since you would hear what you like and the advertisers could peddle to distinct demographic. in the next 20 years MTV or it's replacements will be all there is. With the rapid expansion of accessable information (internet), everything will be done as such. I tend to believe that we will watch music on the TV (Computer Display) and if we like it we can "order" the album, electronically. All we need to be able to do this is fast, efficient commpression and digital connections, able to download 650 MB of data in say, 10 minutes. This is not unrealistic, just 10 years ago we were all using 1200 baud modems; 28.8 kbps seemed unreachable then, now we have digital 128 kbps lines. The rest of the technology is in place. Shit it sure would beat going to a record store. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % "...they were a bunch of assholes If I could find the * * plug, I'd pull it and let the whole island sink..." % % Jerry Only - talking about Great Britain * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ From: bengl@interserv.com Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:01:53 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #131 Hey I've reading the bible for about a month and a half now and there are a few things I really wanna say so hear goes. I've been listening to the misfits for about 2 years now and I havent heard anything of theres that I havent loved. I got into the misfits because I saw someone who I thought was cool with a misfits tattoo so I bought "legacy of brutality" when I noticed it in a record store. I don't however have 100's of dollars to spare or the time to find all the old misfits albums though I would love too and it really makes me sick that having the mythical "7'S" of destiny has become such a status syble. You who have the albums have because you either were around at the right time and place or because you've got gobs of money or time to put into having them so stop talking down to people who weren't cool enough to be born in th 60's and be exposed to the punk scene at the right time. Also Glenn Danzig is only a person and (for most of you atleast) not someone you spend a great deal of time with so let him be an asshole if he wants. All of you would get bored doing the same thing for a decade too (unless it involved whining about rock stars)so why shouldn't glenn live his own life too? sorry I just ahd to get that of my chest. oh and if any of you are gonna mail me to call me and idiot and not say anything else please don't bother. + + ------- -Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:53:55 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Writing Credits Mark wrote: > >Hey Fiends, let's get this clear. Glenn was not the only >person who wrote all the music. He happens to be the person >CREDITED with writing all the music, but Jerry, Doyle, and >the others in the band helped him arrange it. Jerry has >stated this many times. And if you don't believe me or >Jerry, just listen to the 'Rehearsal at the Pit' tape >that's floating around. I believe that is the pratice session that I transcribed... I believe that I later asked mark to remove it from the bible. I see no harm in posting it again. Do you still have a copy of it mark? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:54:39 -0500 From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 12:26:51 -0500 Subject: Rehearsal Transcript **IMPORTANT READ ME FIRST***************************************************** This Transcript may *NOT* be reproduced or posted in any way without the expressed written consent of "The Crimson Ghost"--that's me if you have your head up your ass---cg ****************************************************************************** REHEARSAL TRANSCRIPT MISFITS DATE: Approx. 1981 LINEUP: Glenn Danzig - Vocals Jerry Only - Bass Doyle - Guitar Arthur Googy - Drums LOCATION: (Jerry's Garage) Caiafa Residence, 281 Grove Street Lodi, NJ "Queen Wasp" VOICE: Play Dick! NOTE: Band plays "Die Die My Darling" VOICE: Play Douche! NOTE: Band Plays "Hate Breeders" VOICE: 6 Right? (in reference to the end of "Hate Breeders) (Jerry made it 6 - Googy thinks 4) EVERYBODY: Well, you're wrong! NOTE: Bass Starts - Then drums on "Queen Wasp" JERRY: 4 means go! (To Googy) GOOGY: How's the Wasp go? NOTE: Doyle grinds out the "Wasp Sound" Band works out drum beat Glenn: Not real robot like though Glenn: Play Cunt Voice to Googy: That's the other one Note: Bass starts - drums enter - Googy catches on Googy to Jerry: 4 - 4 - 4 lead wasp chorus Jerry: 8/2 8/2 4 - 4 (Doyle checks out arrangements) (Jerry & Doyle work out ending) Doyle: I think it's too short, that's it Glenn: Fuck it's good the way it is - let's go! Jerry: No, it sounds good Glenn: You guys are the first ones to hear this new song (Referring to the fact that the song is being composed right there at the moment) Googy: And the original words, whoa! Note: The only words written were "Whoa" and "Queen Wasp" Jerry to Googy: Me 'n' him (Doyle) will stop dead and you will hit the cymbal and do that shit - (Jerry writes "Cut" ending) Jerry to Googy: Whatever you can get (meaning ending crashes) Wanna take the ending - Take 8 Note: Band plays song Jerry: Let's do something we all know and love (Having just learned the song earlier) Voice: "Mommy" Note: Doyle plays guitar "Mommy" Googy to Jerry: How's it go (Wants a quick arrangement) Jerry: 3 sets - 4/2 4/2 Googy: (Excited) Oh Yeah! 4/2 4/2 4/2 - n - Stop Note: Googy gets excited he remembers and claps sticks together Doyle: I got a new part to add in that song too! Note: Googy plays drums to " Mommy" Doyle: Play like "All hell breaks loose" Note: Doyle hits hands against chest to show Googy Note: Jerry tells Googy where to play Jerry: 4 times then bum-bum-bum at the end is where you go Glenn: No, you don't go (play's chest) - Play till he gets it right! Glenn: Hit the snare and let's go! Voice: After he say's Mommy Jerry: Hit the snare let's go! Glenn to Jerry: There's eight of them there right? Doyle: Like "All hell breaks loose", Googy can't get it Googy: 4 - n - 4 8 times at the end Googy: yeah there's 4 of them I only did 3, Wanna do the whole song? Glenn to Jerry: Do you want to throw anything else in? Jerry: No!, Yeah!, we've just learned 3 songs Voices: Let's do something else - not the "Wasp" - let's do another one Jerry: "Astrozombies"? Googy: We haven't done that in a long time Voice: what time is it? Glenn: Yeah we gotta go for those tapes Glenn to Jerry: Do you want to give these guys a few minutes on tape? Jerry: Yeah I guess Googy: Fuck-it we'll come and practice Saturday for a few hours Googy: Pick your favorite, the one you love the most Jerry: "Martian"? Glenn: I don't know if "Martian" needs work Jerry: I don't give a shit what we do! Voice: "Night of the living dead"? Glenn: What doesn't Arthur end with? Voice: "Bullet" Note: Jerry forgets it momentarily Googy: Holy Shit! (He can't believe Jerry forgot something) Note: Jerry Remembers it Jerry: Got it, Let's Go! Note: Band plays "Bullet" :END TRANSCRIPT: Hope you all enjoyed reading this..Look in future issues for my exclusive 1995 interview with Jerry..I hope that this interview will turn out to be the end all tale. I will try to cover some of the holes that were in the Mike Stax "Ugly Things" Interview.. +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:17:39 -0500 From: She Subject: Chris Ternes Chris Ternes has kindly typed up many new articles for the page. Take a look if you get the chance. Thanks Chris Also, for NY fiends - Bobby Steele's new band Times Square will be playing at the Continental on January 7th. I think it might be a free show. Please go and let us know what they sound like. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:08:05 +0100 From: Franz Ardito Subject: Collection II Just wanted to tell that here in Italy Collection II has reached the 3rd place on a chart made by an important Italian music magazine called "Dynamo". It states that Collection II is a "well worth buying compilation with all the rare Misfits stuff". Buon anno a tutti (happy new year to everyone) Franz Ardito e-mail: vag1865@iperbole.bologna.it >From somewhere in Italy.. "I'm the kind of guy your mother warned you about" ------------------------------ Date: 01 Jan 96 20:10:10 EST From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@compuserve.com> Subject: Misfits Bible, #131 Here is a Misfits sighting for the Bible: Vacuum Records (Timojhen Mark) has a record by Rocket From the Crypt called "Rocket Queen" ($4.25). It is a limited edition of 500 that looks like it may be bootleg. It has a live cover of "I Turned into a Martian", the singer says "This is a Misfits song, you like Misfits? Hey, where's Pushead??". Overall it's a pretty bad recording - I liked it. Paul- 102164,134@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:29:00 -0600 From: Catherine Ehlinger Subject: misfit videos alright im not sure if my first post made it but in case it didn't...hats off to the creators of the bible.it gives me something to read at work.anyway does anyone have any misfit videos??????all I can offer for a copy is money for the blank tape,postage,and like five or ten bucks for the trouble.mail me if anyone has any at all.i would like to start a collection.by the way what is the official release date of the box set.im dying to know.i was also curious as if anyone would like to form a misfit tribute band.hell i have all the lyrics and music to almost all of the songs.i think it would be a great way to honor one of the best horror punk bands.mail sugestions,and interested people,anyone have a good name for it.also does anyone have any flyers from shows.i would like to start collecting those also.thank you.....see you all next time...till then peace love and a slow death.........the astro zombie ------------------------------ From: Corpse138@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:56:38 -0500 Subject: Some stuff to trade I just went through my tape collection and found a Metallica show from Ruthies Inn, Berkeley, CA 8-24-85(not 95!) and they play London Dungeon. A guy named Rich Burch(...Bang that head that doesn't bang...) is on vocals. I've also got a couple of Misfits shows, Detroit 1981and LA 4-8-83. More trade bait: live 7 Seconds, Agnostic Front, Minor Threat, Gang Green, COC, an old Bad Brains demo, tons of live Slayer, Metallica, Metallica demos+interviews, Mercyful Fate, Megadeth, Exodus(w/Kirk Hammet), Negative Approach live. Heres more: Misfits coughcool/she boot 7", Fiend Club boot 7" w/Horror Hotel, Ratfink, Spook City USA. Also live Faith, Void, just tons of stuff! Here's what I need: Any rare and live Smashing Pumpkins, including non LP b-sides, cover tunes, etc OR Any live Misfits or Samhain, soundboard if possible. I've got about 150-200 live tapes and demos that I used to trade in the mid 80's. Hardcore, punk, speed and death metal. MANY bands not listed! Let me know what you want. I need Smashing Pumpkins live and rare tracks!!!! the Misfits are my faves and have been for about 10 years. C'mon, let's start trading!! Oh yeah, one more thing for all you Mac users out there. I have about 15 Misfits PICT's that are way cool. Send $5.00 to cover the costs for a disk and postage and handling or Send me some God Damned Smashing Pumpkins live and rare stuff! Or Misfits or Samhain stuff. Email me now!! Mike Sowers Corpse138@aol.com 8711 49th Avenue College Park, MD 20740 Bye for now, I'll post on how I got into the 'Fits, what I think on their new plans, etc. another time. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Lyrics the box set ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hunnysmack@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:17:50 -0500 Subject: news... Fiends - I talked to Jerry earlier today and I'd like to pass on to you two things. The first is that the box set will be out on the 26th. I'm assuming he means January, but I could be wrong. Also, a bit of good news is that they'll be touring in February. The bad news is that it's in EUROPE (well, I guess if you're a European fiend, this is GREAT news!). I hope this answers some of the questions. I haven't read an issue since the middle of January, so I don't know if you've already learned this stuff from Mark or Caroline, etc. BUT - keep your eyes right here in the bible because I could very well have a huge announcement soon depending on what goes down in the next couple of weeks. Sorry, no hints because there is no way I want to jeopardize this in any way. Okay, to the winners of the tapes, I'm sorry I've been so slow but I just spent a week snowboarding in Vermont and haven't been around to process all the orders. I'll be shipping out a few tomorrow - so head's up. Also, some of the winners did not get their orders in by the time I left PSU for home - DON'T WORRY. I'll just send them to you after I go back on the 9th. Sound good? I guess that's all for now. Take care - Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:40:42 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: Flipside Video Does anyone know if there's a possibility of this being released legitimately? This is a really great video, at least the best quality one as far as i can tell of the old misfits. i'd figure considering the legal problems should be resolved, it shouldn't be a problem... and FS is rereleasing that stuff again too... Though glenn might not have signed a release. heh. Happy New Year or whatever jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:03:32 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: sightings Fiends, we are now into the lucky 13th year since the breakup of the Misfits... anyway, someone mentioned something about getting into the Misfits after seeing a tattoo from LOB that someone had, and this reminded me of another "Misfits sighting": a couple years ago, on some show like 20/20 or maybe 60 minutes (I can't remember exactly) there was a story about some family who lived next door to this homosexual, and they were harassing him, and so the guy set-up his video-camera to record the harassment. He got himself on tape getting icked and beaten while trying to water his lawn or something. The 17 or 18 year-old son of the neighbours' family (who beat him up) was arrested, and they showed some police photos of him and his tattoos, one of which was the skeletal-singer from the back cover of LOB, standing on a pile of skulls. As the camera panned over his tattoos, the announcer said something like "the police linked the boy's tattooes to the belief that the white race was superior to others" (the guy had several other tattooes, one of which was a very cheap-looking [as in probably home-done] tattoo of a swastika). Probably not the best publicity the Misfits ever got... some more sightings...in #9 of Erik Larsen's comic "The Savage Dragon," some character makes reference to a recent crime or murder-spree, and calls it a "Legacy of Brutality." I doubt that this could be anything other than a reference to the album title. Also, I think in #10, in the letters page someone suggests that Larsen give the Dragon "big 'ol sideburns like Danzig", to which Larsen replies: "what a great role model." I can't remember the page the comment in #9 was on, and I can't check because I gave the comic (actually the whole series) to my friend because it sucked so bad. and finally...CG. (of course I couldn't resist my obligatory response to CG's comments...) There seems to be a bit of a misconception among many Misfits fans...I don't know if you think this exactly CG, but I got the impression from your post that you did: Glenn Danzig DOES sign Misfits merchandise, provided it is legally-issued (okay, except Collection II). Craig Walters (aka "C.G.Walters") got an original vinyl Earth A.D. signed by Glenn, as well as Lucifuge and other Danzig stuff. Personally, I have only met Glenn once, and I didn't have any Misfits stuff with me for him to sign, but I'm sure there are hundreds of instances others could cite in which Glenn signed Misfits stuff. But there are also cases (supposedly other than cases of him refusing Collection II) where he has refused to sign Misfits stuff. I suspect in most of these cases it's bootlegs he won't touch, but I guess it is possible that on some days he doesn't even want to touch ANY Misfits stuff, depending on his mood or whatever. I'm not saying this attitude of his is right or wrong, nor can I presume to pass judgment on it, but I guess my point is that if you want to get something signed, either don't bring any Misfits stuff at all, or bring some Samhain or Danzig stuff as back-up. If you're lucky, you might get both things signed, as I (accidentally) got both Satanika #1 and Verotika #2 signed...then the bastard security-guard stepped in and bitched at me... So all I'm saying is, if you go to a signing...be prepared. later. -Brett "...'cause you were bred to take it" ------------------------------ From: She Subject: In The Doorways Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:36:45 -0500 (EST) > From: Catherine Ehlinger > them.also how can i get in touch with jerry??in my spare time i am a > roadie/guitar tech and would love to take care of the guys on tour...thanks The answer is at the end of every issue: > The Misfits mailing address is: > > Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 mark ------------------------------ From: Osito666@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 01:29:50 -0500 Subject: Glenn Danzig Crimson Ghost, Glenn is a performer. A good one. But it's not fair to say he makes his living off of his fans. He makes his living off of his music. He's not asking for money for nothing. If he quit making records and asked us all to support him, then he'd be making his living off of his fans. You seem to think that buying one of his records means you've bought a piece of him and he should treat you with more respect than he would anyone else. I'm sure he's appreciative of people taking interest in his music but how far do you want to take it. Should he start asking your advice about what color to paint his kitchen? Glenn makes a record, you buy it, end of transaction. Of course Leslie West, Buster Poindexter, Jerry Only and Doyle are more than willing to talk about the past. It's their glory days. The good old days. Who do you think would be more interested in relieving their highschool football victories? Joe Montana or Al Bundy? I was with Joe McGoldrick when Danzig refused to sign his copy of Collection II. What Joe didn't tell you was that Glenn did sign my copies of the first collection, Legacy Of Brutality, Earth AD Gold, Initium, November-Coming-Fire, Final Descent and the first Danzig album. Glenn's bodyguard said, "That's enough stuff." Glenn ignored him and said, "Keep 'em coming." And I did. If he isn't happy with Collection II then I wouldn't want him to sign it. He shouldn't have to sign something he has mixed feelings for. He should, however, collect whatever royalties he is due. He earned them. There is a difference between writing a song and arranging a song. Danzig wrote the Misfits songs. The Misfits arranged them. You copyright a song. That means you copyright the lyrics and the lead melody line. You only copyright an arrangement if it is a significant arrangement. That doesn't mean figuring out when to stop or deciding if you should play a part twice or four times. It means a real arrangement. Completely different accompanying parts. Danzig owns the copyrights to the songs. He takes all of the credit because he deserves all of the credit. The Misfits music does not warrant a separate arrangement copyright. Of course the arrangement, however minimal, makes a difference as to how you perceive the underlying song. No one is arguing with you. A museum curator chooses the lighting that allows you to see a painting. That doesn't mean he painted the picture. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:06:12 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Week ---> B.M. Fama said: >responses to every littel comment made, but someone chastised me for >calling the Misfits "childish" music in the last Bible. Read my post >again, buddy: I said it was "comparatively childish" (ie: to Danzig) and >if you have a problem with that then your I.Q. must be pretty low. You >call lines like "hack the heads off little girls and put 'em on my wall" >mature?? I.Q. Low? Indeed..Ya know Brett you almost had my respect, until you decided to pick on *Glenn's* lyrics. The lyrics do not make a tune childish. Childish music along with childish lyrics, make a childish tune; ie: "Flying Purple People Eater" The lyrics don't count for squat! Frank Zappa made quite a point of this with the most absurd, childish lyrics teamed with very, technically, perfect music. Compared to Zappa (and many others) every thing Glenn's done seems "somewhat" childish. Does that mean I don't like it, Fuck NO! The Misfits comparatively childish to what? Danzig... Please don't compare the two. They are, for the most part, totally different. The 'Fits are a punk band. Punk is 3 chord rock, it's supposed to be rough around the edges. Danzig ain't nothin' more than 3 chord hard/alt/indust rock that's over-produced, with the benefit of more money in the recording/equipment budget. You can quote "Hack the heads..." till your blue in the face. big fucking whoop! Do you think I'm overly impressed by the likes of: "Mother do ya wanna have incest with me.."? (this is an obvious parody of "mother" for those of you that haven't a clue) My point is the lyrics don't hold much value for me at all. As the father of a 3 year old, I don't like the line: "I killed you baby today...." But Last Caress is one of my fav's. I'm sorry if I'm redundant about the lyrics but that's how I see it, anyone have any comments....? >someone writes all lyrics and music *EVEN IF JERRY and DOYLE* came up >with some changes and arrangements, WHO should be credited with writing >the dsongs?? The guy who wrote the first 90-95% or the guys who came up >with a few changes later on when recording or rehearsing? Brett did you ever wonder _why_ Glenn settled the lawsuit out of court? >One last thing, someone else responding to one of my posts said Glenn >played instruments only on "a few" Misfits songs. (NOT IF YOU INCLUDE >LEGACY OF BRUTALITY). This is highly debatable - it's overdubbed no doubt, but who played is another arguement entirely. I don't think anyone on this list can prove either way so let's not even start this one. For the sake of arguement I do not count LOB as a TRUE Misfits release, as Glenn was the only one making money off it. Remember people the misfits were a band not a solo project. Nobody but Glenn made a dime off shit like Legacy. But I'll tell you a story; when my neighbor's kid gave me his LOB CD and asked me to have it signed by Jerry & Doyle they signed it no problem, God knows they had good reason not to sign it. No "Handlers" were there to say that they wouldn't sign the 'Black one', the only thing said was "no problem, ya got a marker?" >lastly, anyone who flames EVB for the comments she made will die by my >hand. I notice that, even when I write a HUGE post explaining my reasons >for defending Glenn, someone invariably responds either misquoting me or >ignoring 1/2 of what I said. I happen to share your view on the above entirely, just replace the word Glenn with Jerry. ---->ChristoTer@aol.com said: >Subject: Mark Death >JERRY ONLY INTERVIEW BY MARK DEATH Is this interview for real? I've never seen it, it's also real out of character for Jerry. Meaning the "one word" responses, Jerry just dosn't respond to anything that way. He goes into loooooong diatribes about everything. I believe I asked him once "Why didn't the Misfits put out an album until '82" I was rewarded with a 1/2 hour lecture about all sorts of shit about the record industry back then. --->Catherine Ehlinger said: >i would love to see them.also how can i get in touch with jerry??in my >spare time i am a roadie/guitar tech and would love to take care of the >guys on tour...thanks Send a letter to Jerry directly. He reads *all* the mail. Make it interesting and include a picture and bio. Jerry Only P.O. Box 310 Vernon, NJ 07462 %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % "...they were a bunch of assholes If I could find the * * plug, I'd pull it and let the whole island sink..." % % Jerry Only - talking about Great Britain * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 15:37:16 EST From: MR MIKE D MOLLURA Subject: Earth Ad and other Stuff -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Ok B.M.- I've heard from many places that Glenn overdubbed guitar tracks into almost all the songs on Earth AD. I know a few ppeople who talked with Jerry and Doyle and they confirmed this to them. If you have heard the Beyond Evil boot, the Demon-o-mania and Queen Wasp Instrumental (The ones that are on Earth AD) appear in there purest form. It sounds real good. Glenn took the tapes and over dubbed his guitar and who knows what else in there after the band broke up in late'83. Read the Ugly Things article! Jerry expains it in there. Also, if you hear the actual Static Age demos, it makes L.O.B. look pathetic. Besides, Jerry's said that he's heard his bass in all the songs. I'm not sure about the guitar. The drum tracks sound alot the same too (I can tell, I am a drummer). The vocals on a few of the songs *might* have been re-recorded. But it seems like he just fucked up the mix to make it sound different, then claim to have re-recorded it so he doesn't have to pay the others. Who killed Marylin, Halloween, and Eagles didn't sound any different then the Horror Business demos. But thats just my opinion, any one who knows or thinks differently, please let me know. Don't say you suck, or fuck you, because I am just saying this from what I have heard from very reliable souces.-Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:03:59 +0100 From: "Dr. Ifter" Subject: Glenn/'Fits? Hah! Do you guys have to continue all this Glenn vs. the Misfits bullshit? I mean, we're all in here for the music, right? Those who like the Misfits will listen to the Misfits and those who like Danzig will listen to Danzig and those who like Qwylthulg will listen to Qwylthulg. I personally don't care if the guys in a band are nazis, assholes, posers, or if they only do it for the money, or whatever. Of course I get that extra kick if they think the way I do, but if they don't - the music is still there, and that's what matters. So listen - Glenn and the 'Fits can sort their problems out by themselves. I don't care. I'm still gonna listen to both of 'em. Why flame each other? Cheerz, Drifter. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:37:41 -0600 From: Eric Gulbrandsen Subject: Where are they now??? I've been wondering for some time where are the other past members of the Misfits such as Mr.Jim, Robo, Franche Coma, etc... What are they doing now and where are they at??? Also I have just gotten ahold of a Black Flag Video with Robo in it-it's an old Target Video-1983 some cool stuff on it if anybody wants to trade some stuff for it drop me a line. Thanks Gulliver <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 'Rise above We've gotta rise above' -Henry Rollins egulbrandsen@foxvalley.tec.wi.us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ From: Nachtwolf@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:53:08 -0500 Subject: The music is what matters... This is my first post to the Bible, as I have just recently begun receiving it. My background (as if it really matters): I got into punk in '81, and into the Misfits shortly thereafter. They have always been my favorite band, but due to a poverty-stricken youth, I had very few records. Most of what I had was recorded from friends. The point I want to make: I find it humorous to read all the "Glenn is an asshole" posts. From friends of mine who've met him, I get the same story. But I don't really give a damn. Its the music that has always drawn me in (that goes even more for the lyrics). People need to enjoy the "art" for what it is. Admire the talent, of not only Glenn but of all the previous members. Lighten up a little. Even if Glenn is a big prick, he's hardly Hitler, and chalk it up to enormous talent=enormous ego. Hardly the first time that equation has come up in the fields of creativity! Maybe add a dash of Napoleonic Complex, and there you go. And ask yourself, if you never heard anything about/from him, would you think any differently about his music, past or present? One more thing, I am interested in getting some tapes of rare Misfits/Samhain music. I have no interest in collecting vinyl, I just want to be able to hear the old tunes. I am somewhat of an anti-collector anyway (I tend to throw away things). Anyone interested in taping what they have for me can email me to discuss terms. nachtwolf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:20:30 -0500 (EST) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: ok i was wrong ok, I'll retract what I said a few issues ago about danzig posts being irrelevant... apparently a lot more people on this list enjoy hearing about Danzig than I figured. fine, you'll hear no more complaints from me, but please, please, for christ's sake it's FETAL, not FEATLE or FEETAL. BAUHAUS, not BOWELHOUSE. YOU'RE = YOU ARE, YOUR = BELONGING TO YOU. I don't mean to offend but I can't endure these abuses of the language. You can't flame a guy for trying to help. ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:42:30 -0500 Subject: Spring Chiller Theatre Show I just learned that the next Chiller Theatre Toy & Film Convention will be April 12th through the 14th. I know I'm saying this almost four months in advance but I thought I'd give you all the early word. If I hear who all is going to be there in the upcoming months, I'll let you all know. I hope Jerry & Doyle will be there as they have been for the past few. Hopefully their product line will be bigger this time out, too. I'm really waiting for those "Chiller Theatre" videos they plan on doing. Joe Bob Briggs has a similar line of tapes ("Bloodfeast", "2000 Maniacs!", etc.) and does a really good job with the films by adding a bit of background and trivia to the films before and after. If Jerry and Doyle keep away from that goofy Elvira or "Mystery Science Theatre 3000" shtick and just give the viewer some insight into and background on the film instead of making fun of it (who wants to buy a movie that the host keeps claiming is one of the worst ever made?), I think they'll do a good job too. In my opinion, it would be cool if they would end each video with a different live song (or songs) to really make it worth the buyer's money. Anyway ... - BILE666. - I don 't think EVB hasn't posted for a while because she's no longer a Misfits fan. It's just that she's too busy following Marilyn Manson all over the country ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:33:30 -0800 From: Richard Hinojos Subject: Danzig skull sighting To contribute to the old "where have you seen the misfits" game a while ago: On Tuesday night (jan 2). there was a story on KTTV news in LA about some vandals who descerated some graves at a Jewish cemetary in San Diego. They interviewed the mom: "This just isn't the time of year to do this." Graverobbing is a summer sport?!?! The reporter then said that the suspects claimed to practice white witchcraft. Besides toppling some headstones, they managed to steal a body part (no specifics). To make a short story long, a long shot of the suspects showed a painted Danzig skull on a leather jacket. Rob and I lifted our left hands and saluted the half-inflated demon lord. :) Related tale: In the town of Lennox, Calif. some guy challenged some neighborhood kids to break into a cemetary and bring him proof. One morning he found what appeared to be a human head. Goofing, he put it into his mouth and bit down, thinking it was a fake. "It tasted salty," he later said. The head came from a body that had been interred for about sixty years. Pleasant dreams, Ryq ------------------------------ From: GOATFIT@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:48:37 -0500 Subject: lyrics to "Attitude" Since we all know that even though Glenn is credited with writing all of the Misfits' material, he did not write all of it, it is probably true that in the early Misfits' days, Bobby wrote alot of the music, and possibly lyrics too.. Anyhow, I went into NYC yesterday, and picked up WAU on vinyl for 12 bucks, and also The Undead "Evening of Desire" 12" for 5 bucks....on the "Evening of desire" 12", the Undead cover "Attitude", and you can CLEARLY hear Bobby saying.. "...inside your FETAL brain there's probably a WHORE, if you don't shut your mouth, you're gonna FEEL THE FLOOR..." BTW I went into this record store Bleeker Bob's in Greenwich village, and they had an original pressing on Evilive, but the cover looked as though it had been put through a washing mashine or something, it was just as shitty as hell, and they were asking $40 for it, and I offered to pay $20 for it, and they laughed at me, and i walked out.... attn:stewart Gallacher, andy dempz, julian...hey you guys, this is Adam, i just have a new e-mail account- so all of you guys please e-mail me!!!! later love goat- e-mail GOATFIT@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:46:53 -0600 From: Catherine Ehlinger hello out there i did not get issue 132 although i have read it anyway.i am still waiting for someone to send me some lists for tapes and videos....by the way lets look at the glen issue for one quick second.people don't hound vince neil for leaving the crew.the misfits were a part of glens past and he wants to keep it that way.he is not a dick but its hard for someone to forget about something when people keep digging it up.anyway peace to both sidde i will remain neutral in the matter im a misfits fan so i guess that means that i am also a danzig fan.even though i don'tmuch care for his new stuff.later fellas. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:22:52 -0500 From: She Subject: NEWS NEWS NEWS Here is the usual Jerry Only update: THE TOUR -------- The Misfits will be touring Europe in March. Before this they will not be doing any shows. The Misfits will not be doing the ABC benefit show that some fiends were talking about earlier. They are very busy with preparations for the tour, the box set, the Fiend Club, and Chiller Theatre and will probably not have time for the benefit show. So ... don't believe anything until you've heard it here. The European tour will allow them to work out any bugs they might have and prepare them for a massive tour of the US in June. They intend to do the whole country, finishing with a special show in New York on Halloween, after which they will head into the studio to record a new album. The European tour: March 12 - Music Box Edinburgh, Scotland March 13 - Foundry Birmingham, England March 14 - Dorwich/Bristol Leicester, England March 15 - Rio Bradford, England March 16 - off March 17 - London Astoria London, England March 18 - off March 19 - Meckweg Amsterdam, Holland March 20 - TBC Herford, Germany March 21 - Rohre Stuttgart, Germany March 22 - TBC Emunchen, Germany March 23 - Capital Berlin, Germany March 24 - Fabrik Hamburg, Germany The information on these dates may be somewhat unclear do to the fact that we're in the US and don't really know what the hell we're talking about. It's the best info I have though, so I hope this helps. European fiends who are interested in helping out at some of these shows should email me their names and Jerry will try to put you on the guest list if you come early and help them set up. BOXED SET --------- The box contains 4 CD's with 104 tracks in all, including many, many previously unreleased versions. We will get to hear for the first time the Misfits version of "Spook City USA" and other great stuff. Apparently some of Glenn's master tapes were in bad shape, so songs like the original version of "Night OF The Living Dead" may sound a little different than they did on the original 7" singles. There will also be at least one unreleased track. Someone from Caroline told Mike Stax that the song was called "Between The Walls" but no such song was ever recorded. Jerry suspects that they might be referring to a song called "In The Doorways" which was recorded by the first lineup of the band on a tape that Glenn has. The first CD in the set is the Static Age album. The first 50,000 copies of the box set will include a special case for the Static Age CD that I described several months ago. The other 3 CDs will come in cardboard digipak cases. All boxes after the first 50,000 will use a digipak case for the Static Age CD also. After the box comes out, the Static Age album WILL be released separately. The box set sounds great according to Jerry. As usual, Glenn offered very little help. Jerry provided Caroline with over 240 unreleased Misfits photos from his Misfits scrapbook, so we should be seeing some cool pictures in the box set. The box set booklet will also contain lyrics to all the songs (as corrected by Jerry, not Glenn) and liner notes by Eerie, as we already knew. Jerry gives the whole package an A rating. The set, which comes in a special coffin-shaped box, will officially be released on Tuesday February 27th. To promote its release, The Misfits will be doing an in-store appearance at midnight on Monday the 26th at Generation Records in New York City. Generation Records is located near the corner of Thompson Street and Washington Square Park in Greenwich Village in New York City. Jerry expects the price of the box to be around $65-70. THE FIEND CLUB -------------- A 4 page introductory letter will be sent in the near future to people who were on the list in the spring of 1995. Since then Jerry has received several hundred additions that haven't gone into the database. The letter will consist of the following: 2 pages explaining the return of the bands and some of the legal issues they had to deal with 1 page order form 1 page petition for the Bela Lugosi US monster stamp The order form is already available on the Misfits world wide web page as well as in the latest Ugly Things issue (#14). Checks should be made to Cyclopean Music (t-shirts are $15 each). Jerry is attempting to make Fiend Club membership free by using T-shirt money to fund it. Once again, to join the Fiend Club, write a letter to Misfits Fiend Club PO Box 310 Vernon NJ 07462 with your name, address and phone number. After this mass mailing, there will be another mass mailing of Fiend Club member packages. The packages consist of the following: 11 flyers 2 Fiend Club stickers 2 Cyclopean Music circles 1 Find-A-Fiend postcard 2 Fiend Club membership cards These packages are currently being assembled. CHILLER THEATRE --------------- They have finished editing the first three "Chiller Theatre Presents..." movies. If these movies are not picked up by a TV station, the band hopes to released them as video tapes. Each consists of a brief interview by the band with a famous person from horror movie history, followed by the movie, and then the complete interview: Horror Hotel / Roger Corman (spelling?) Interview The Crawling Eye / Ben Chapman interview Hideous Sun Demon / Basil Gogos interview Each video will end with a special Misfits video for the unreleased Kryst The Conqueror song "Dr Phibes Rises Again". The band recently uncovered an instrumental version of this song from the Kryst The Conqueror sessions and recorded a vocal track with MIchale Graves singing. They then filmed a video for the song in their castle setup in Vernon NJ from 18 different angles. This is the video that will appear at the end of each Chiller Theatre video. NEW ALBUM --------- Collection II has apparently been selling pretty well. It has entered Billboard's Heat Seekers chart and remained there for a few weeks. Jerry hopes that the box and Collection II will keep fiends satisfied until they enter the studio between Halloween and Xmas '96 to record their new album. The band has been working on new material including a song recently written by Michale called "Black Light". They also plan to shorten and re-record Kryst The Conqueror songs - "Spellbound" "Night Raiders" and others. Jerry would like to drop 52 seconds from "Spellbound" and would appreciate suggestions as to which verse to drop. The Kryst The Conqueror album will be released in its complete form (13 songs) sometime in the next 10 years or so, but we will see some of the songs performed by The Misfits. So don't be surprised if you hear unfamiliar songs at Misfits shows... IRC CHANNEL ----------- We are attempting to create a permanent Misfits channel on IRC. At the moment, we have applied for a permanent spot on the Undernet. To get to the Misfits IRC channel, you must select us.undernet.org as your IRC server. The channel name is #misfits and the operator is known as |20Eyes| (Jerry Schulz). Please check it out and show your suppoert. mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:13:45 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Misfits & MTV I can see why people don't want the Misfits on MTV and I can think of a buncha good reasons. First is with this new bullshit punk revival using Green Day, Offspring, and Rancid as the new punk wave the Misfits could easily be thrown right into that. First it would probably take alot away from the coolness of the band because they will have a horde of dipshit fans and they will probably distance themselves from fans. It'll happen. It happend to Metallica, Megadeth, and White Zombie after MTV exposure. I can see where the band would like to get popular, make some cash, retire happy but think about it. There are more then enough Fits fans to keep them financially happy and when they start touring and make themselves known they will pick up a great fan base. The flipside to this is maybe MTV will fear them. I mean if you think about it the Misfits arn't paticularly radio friendly and their whole image and attitude could scare MTV away. MTV is after that silly west coast punk scene witht he skaters and the baggy pants and bleached hair. Thats not the Misfits. The Misfits are old school New York Punk. If MTV fears them, they best they'll get is an occassional appearance on 120 Miniutes with a Sick Of It All video. ------------------------------ From: Bababooey1@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 22:31:46 -0500 Subject: Bobby Steele? Hi. I'm a big fan of the Misfits. A friend of mine recently got a bootleg tape of a Misfits concert from Christmas 1981 in Passaic, NJ. When they get to the song "Teenagers from Mars" they said that they changed the lyrics. They changed it to something about a guy who used to be in the band named Bobby Steele. Who is this guy, and what do the Misfits have against him? Thanks a lot --bababooey1@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:26:53 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost An interesting thing happened on the radio today (Friday) in New York. WXRK 92.3 K-ROCK, a classic rock station, changed it's format to new "cutting edge" music. K-Rock is the home of Howard Stern and used to carry the Greaseman They fired all the DJ's with the exception of Howard. So I'm driving to work listening to the news break on Howard's show, and finally the moment of truth, they let Howard Stern break in the new format. After his show he talks up the first tune, a tune of his choice. What does he pick? I figurered it would be some lame STP or Pearl Jam shit, but no! He plays "Sweet dreams..." as done by Marilyn Manson :) Fuckin' Right On Howard!!! I hope the station proves to be as great as it's first 4 minutes ! On another note...My daughter's page was linked in a page featured in Internet World Magazine, so I took the time to update both of my pages check them out....PLEASE.....http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ remember that UNIX is case sensitive so make sure you capitalize the C & G in CrimsonGhost C.G. Walters is sending me a copy of the "Omen" font. As soon as I get it I will post it on my page for downloading. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % "...they were a bunch of assholes If I could find the * * plug, I'd pull it and let the whole island sink..." % % Jerry Only - talking about Great Britain * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 09:38:48 -0600 (CST) From: gerry blaylock Subject: g there are some copies of the rosemary's babies 7" that were never colored in and contained all the inserts. they were kept by eerie von. don't know how many yet, but it was only a very few. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:53:46 -0500 From: She Subject: Black Market interview Just thought everyone should see what Glenn had to say about the Misfits in this interview from 1985: Black Market 1985 ----------------- BM: When did the Misfits end and Samhain begin, cause a lot of bands will change members but keep the same name, why didn't you? Glenn: Beacuse I wanted it to be its own thing. We could've of called this the Misfits. I wrote all the songs, I did all the bullshit for the band. I could've called this the Misfits. Do you know what I'm saying? It's not like with Black Flag and even the Circle Jerks. I mean a lot of people think they are, but they're not. The new Black Flag especially, that's not Black Flag, you know Chuck's not in the band. Eerie: Chuck was a big deal. Glenn: And I think Jerry was kinda important in the Misfits, whether he wrote songs or not. Doyle and Robo were interchangable, but as long as it was me and Jerry it was kinda the Misfits. mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 18:48:28 EST From: G Subject: Two things 1. I think we all reserve the right to criticize Danzig as much as we want. I feel free to say what I like and don't like, and if it seems like everyone is trashing him, maybe that should tell him something. If someone doesn't feel comfortable with that, I don't understand why. I encourage everyone to freely speak their own opinions on the man, as well as anything else. 2. There was a reference about three bibles ago about calling someone a homosexual in a negative way. While not being one myself, I was wondering if we could avoid this in the future, as a friend of mine asked me why a seemingly bunch of accepting people would act that way. If anyone has any responses, and if I'm being an idiot about this, please respond in private e-mail. Thanks. G (Galen Myers)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave."-Les "Did you ever look at a dollar bill man, there's some spooky stuff going on on a dollar bill man. I mean and it's green too."-Slater "Havin a good time, livin the moon time."-Widespread Panic "You're crystal ball ain't so crystal clear, so while you sit back and wonder why I got this fucking thorn in my side."-Beasties "I don't mean to shatter your ego, but this is not the first time I've had a gun pointed at me."-Jules ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~It's just a signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 20:07:36 -0500 From: She Subject: Main Street Records Main Street Records in Northampton, MA is selling Collection II posters for $4. They do mail order. If you'd like to order a poster, contact: Main Street Records 213 Main St Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 586-5726 mark ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 23:11:22 -0500 Subject: Jerry poster Hey, All right, I've got an extra Jerry Only poster, and I'll sell it to anyone for 3 bucks...which is actually not a sale, as that's what the postage will cost. The only catch is that it's folded, not rolled, but it's really not that bad. If anyone's interested drop me an e-mail. Chris ------------------------------ From: wallace836@vegas.email.net Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:10:17 PST Subject: Misfits Bible, #132 Anyone have any info on the DANZIG tour film that was done during "How the Gods Kill"? Glenn mentioned it on headbangers ball a fdw y