Misfits Bible, Number 131 Tuesday, December 26th 1995 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #130 why EVB don't post no more..... FOR THE BIBLE My Fucking Opinon! a couple of things Re: Lets Talk about it Last Issue my view "malum nunquam abolesco" (was "Evil Never Dies") more stuff questions, questions, questions... Mark or Ghost clear this one up Re: Misfits Bible, #130 in the doorways Misfits stuff in abq, nm SA Posters More Sightings Re: Misfits Bible, #128 New versions Keep it up FROM ME TO YOU ALL! Horror Business AGNOSTIC FRONT bowels... Black Flag Chyna Merry X-mas Scarecrow Beast and The Simpsons Hello! DANZIG vs. MISFITS & OTHER STUFF evildon's question of the month attitude Mike Graves "Omen" lettering available Glenn Danzig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:07:42 -0500 From: sistinas@prime.planetcom.com (EVB) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #130 a minor correction to that Headbangers Ball transcript: >GD: You know, here's my viewpoint on this. This is it. It's the end. And, > you know, both those bands, uh there was a time when those bands were > around and the magazines then and they should of asked the questions about > the bands AT that time, and not just those two bands, but also about bands > like THE VELVER UNDERGROUND and BOWELHOUSE(???) it's BAUHAUS Another band that was sadly underground at the time, I'm really glad I got a chance to see 'em a half dozen times as they were easily one of the best live bands I've ever seen... (I guess today most folks still haven't heard of 'em either) Sorry... couldn't resist throwing in my two cents.... - EVB (yeah, I'm still alive) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:37:24 -0500 From: EVB Subject: why EVB don't post no more..... I've been getting a lot of mail asking why I don't post to the bible anymore, so I figured I'd explain why... Basically, I quess I don't feel qualified to do so anymore since the definition of what constitutes a "Misfits fan" seems to have shifted in the minds of many of the more vocal Bible posters. It seems to me that nowadays to be a "Misfits fan" you gotta slam Glenn for his steadfast refusal to go back to what he was doing a dozen years ago instead of moving on. Well, sorry but no-can-do. I'd rather him do something different. I'm looking forward to Danzig 5 & if it's industrial or influenced by Trent Reznor, well that's great by me. Truthfully I havent listened to much punk (besides the Misfits, Damned & Ramones) in years and the industrial stuff is more my speed these days. I also can't really consider myself a "Misfits fan" right yet in light of the fact that there's a new/resurrected band by that name, and I can't say I'm a fan of theirs until I actually get a chance to hear them. And in hearing them, what I want to judge them by is new work that's 100% theirs, as opposed to just hearing them play songs written by a former member. I really want to be able to evaluate them strictly on their own merits and not in the shadow of somebody else, so until then I'll patiently wait. No insult intended to Jerry, Doyle, Chud or Michale who are all very cool guys, I just have yet to hear you as a unit, and I will first chance I get! (I still feel bad for missing the Halloween show after I lost my ride and got instead an offer to go somewhere else) But I don't feel I can rightly call myself a fan of a band I've never heard, and in my mind there is enough difference here to consider it a different band. I guess it all comes down to "why are you drawn to the Misfits". I loved that band for Glenn's voice, songwriting ability and lyrics, and I'm positive that if he hadn't been in the band I never would have become the fanatic collector and admirer that I am today. (There are many other bands I've collected over the years, but never to such an extent). So I consider myself, first and foremost as an admirer of the works of Glenn Danzig. I can see how people would have been drawn to them for other reasons and prefer the imagry for example, which of course Jerry and co. are bringing back, so if that's what you go for, that's cool too, it just wasn't the reason for me. Also, being a friend of Glenn's for a number of years I have to say that reading the way he gets insulted in here really does make me flinch and feel uncomfortable. It does hurt to hear your friend insulted in such terms. Many times I've thought of unscubsribing but those thoughts have been outweighed by the cool and civil folks on this list. So even if I'm not posting I do read it and often reply to individual posters. Anyway, I do have a bit of Misfits related trivia.... if anybody on this list likes GENITORTURERS they are now performing a cool live version of "All Hell Breaks Loose" which I believe they are going to record for their new album (they'll be going back in th studio in early 1996). Saw them at the Limelight about a week ago and it was a great show! Also, if anybody happens to make it to any of the Verotik signings Glenn is doing, I REALLY need a copy of the limited edition "Igrat #1". I don't care if it's signed or not, I just hear it has a different cover and I really want a copy. I'm willing to pay double what it cost plus postage or offer something interesting in trade for it, so if anybody has a chance PLEASE snag one for me. Thanks in advance! always lurking..... EVB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 05:21:54 EST From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: FOR THE BIBLE -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- HEY, IS ANYONE OUT THERE FROM THE NORTHWEST?? PORTLAND TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. ANYONE OUT THERE EVER HEARD POISON IDEA?? OR AM I THE ONLY ONE WITH THE PLEASURE?? REPLY..... TIM FROM PORTLAND.....A MISFITS FANATIC!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 13:25:30 EST From: MR MIKE D MOLLURA Subject: My Fucking Opinon! -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Check it Out: Ok guys I know I haven't said much in the past few months, but I GOT SOMETHIN' TO SAY! Ok, first off, B.M. Fama, I have to disagree that the Misfits were Glenn Danzig's and Glenn Danzig's alone band. On this issue I have to come to Crimson's defense. Read the Ugly Things article ,if you have already read it again. If it was Glenn's band he would've supported it. According to Jerry, Glenn wouldn't get off his ass to get a job, he didn't pay for shit either (not studio time, not even his mic!). Also, Jerry said alot of the music was worked through by him and the other band mates. Glenn would come up with a basic idea, and the rest off the band would say "hey let's do it this way" or "I think it should go like this here". Isn't that the way most bands write their songs? I know Glenn wrote all the lyrics, that's not so awe striking to me, seeing most singers write the lyrics to what they sing (Duh!). And so what if Glenn played a couple instruments on a FEW song. Not very well I might add. Look how bad he FUCKED UP Earth A.D. American Nightmare was very cool though. But Jerry sung back up, he sould get some credit too! In closing, while there is no denying Glenn's talent (if not genius), he's not a one man band. Love ya, Mike ------------------------------ From: Geoffrey King Subject: a couple of things Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:08:22 -0500 (EST) to somebody in the last bible who wanted to know who sings on Black Flag's nervous breakdown 7"...that would be Keith Morris of the circle jerks. he was the original flag singer. he was ok, i like him because he sounds like completely drunk off of his ass when he's at the end of nervous breakdown. to conjugate "to die" in latin would be...well...death is mors, mort* and after the star you have to use the declensions to make the ending, sort of like in halloween II where it sounds like "blah blah exorcis mortem" or something. but the verb to die is morior, mori, mortuus...those are the 3 parts since it's a deponent verb. i don't expect you to understand that, but oh well. i'll try and translate evil never dies. malum numquam moritur. (sorry if that was extremely boring, but i'm studying for my latin final which i have tomorrow (wednesday.)) another glenn moment: i remember watching this short lived late night show on mtv called "superock"...danzig was on it, and there was some chick hosting it, and tehy were in a comic book store talking about glenn's new line of comics and bullshit...so the girl finally says to him "what do you think when you see kids paying up to 200 dollars for a misfits 7" which is most likely a bootleg?" glenn said something like "well, that's too bad, and they should watch out for that. But i don't wanna talk about that anymore since it's not part of my life anymore." my words could be off, but he said something to that effect...if anyone saw it, just correct me. i was wondering, and this is a silly question, but has danzig ever been married, or his he involved with anyone right now? i could see him with some little swimsuit model or something, being mr. rockstar. that would be pretty cool. oh well ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 13:48:25 -0500 From: shro@postoffice.ptd.net (Droog) Subject: Re: Lets Talk about it >WHAT IS A REASONABLE PRICE TO PAY FOR THE KRYST THE CONQUERER CD? i >RECENTLY GOT INTO A SHOUTING MATCH WITH THIS PRICK THAT OWNS THE LOCAL >SHITTY RECORD STORE BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO LOWER THE PRICE ON IT TO > $15 FROM $25, HE SAYS THAT IT IS SO RARE THAT BARELY ANY OTHER STORE HAS IT. >sHOULD i BUY IT OR NOT? In case you care, i saw it at my local used CD store for like $8, just to give you an idea. --Pete, The Droog =========================================== |"Each one of us, in his timidity, has | |a limit beyond which he is outraged. It is| |inevitable that he who by concentrated | |application has extended this limit for | |himself, should arouse the resentment | |of those who have accepted conventions | |which, since accepted by all, require | |no initiative of application. And this | |resentment generally takes the form of | |meaningless laughter or criticism, if not | |persecution. But this apparent violation | |is preferable to the monstrous habits | |condoned by etiquette and estheticism" | | | | --Man Ray, Paris 1934 | ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 11:20:25 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Issue This is a long post - don't read it if you'll complain --->Adam Christensen Said (Yelled): >HEY MARK! COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME? >WHAT IS A REASONABLE PRICE TO PAY FOR THE KRYST THE CONQUERER CD? i >RECENTLY GOT INTO A SHOUTING MATCH WITH THIS PRICK THAT OWNS THE LOCAL >SHITTY RECORD STORE BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO LOWER THE PRICE ON IT TO >$15 FROM $25, HE SAYS THAT IT IS SO RARE THAT BARELY ANY OTHER STORE HAS Tell the guy he's full of shit. Don't pay more than $15 bucks for the CD. While I have your attention, please don't type in all caps. On the net this is considered shouting, which is a kind of nice way of saying it's hard to read. People read by word shape recognition. When everything is in caps all the words look like rectangles. >ALSO, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE DEVILOCK, DID JERRY OR >GLENN HAVE ONE FIRST AND WHO STARTED CALLING THEM DEVILOCKS? DOES IT >HAVE TO DO WITH THE SONG? This is from the Interview with Jerry Only by Mike Stax. Ugly Things Magazine #12. MS: Not long after Bullet the horror image really started, right? JO: Yes, as a matter of fact it came in right between Bullet and Horror Business. That's when I came up with the devilock thing. MS: How'd you come up with that? JO: Well, at the time when Horror Business was released, I had this electric blue hair - not the sissy turquoise color, it was like brand new denim jeans! (laughs) It was really slick. So I had this thing, my hair started to grow. What happened was, as it got longer I just kept messin' with it, so I did this wave thing with it - this tidal wave do. And as it got longer it just grew down the front. Then we did our hair black and that was it! Once we got this "Horror Business" thing, all of a sudden we had an identity. We looked good, and all of a sudden the sound was right. MS: What did you use to keep the devilock in place? Hairspray? JO: Some hairspray, but in the end I would up using Vaseline, 'cos the hairspray was really burnin' my eyes. Those of you that haven't had the opportunity to read this, don't worry. I am in the process of typing the entire interview, with Mike's permission of course. It will be available on the mark's web page, my web page and via FTP. --->Ken Graf said: >I know the Misfits plan to go on tour and play old stuff and new stuff, and >you will be able to hear it at the shows, but what if they try to release >another album like Max's? If it has all new stuff on it, does Glenn have >any say about wheather or not it can be released? For example, if the >Misfits go in the studio, record an album with all new tracks, and try to >release it, can Glenn stop them? If he tries, I think it'll be real shitty >of him. Whenever the Misfits release an album of_old_material both Jerry & Glenn must agree on the release. The same holds true for Glenn. Glenn snuffed out Max's X-mas, Jerry could have done the same with Collection II, but Jerry is not like Glenn. Since Jerry owns the name Misfits at this point, he can put out _anything_ new that he wants, without fear of reprisals from Glenn. Any older tunes he can also release if he has Glenn's approval. As far as live shows go, Jerry can do whatever the fuck he wants, as long as the advertising for the show makes specific reference that the band _does not_ feature Glenn Danzig. --->B.M. Fama Said: >hmmm last time I checked Glenn Danzig wrote (and owned all rights) to all >songs the Misfits ever recorded (except "Rat Fink"), sang on all >Misfits songs (and even played instruments on several), was a >founding-member of the band (as well as the one who forcibly disbanded >them for over a decade, during which time HE alone was the Misfits) >distributed and manufactured Misfits t-shirts, and released Misfits albums >through his own record company Plan 9, etc etc etc. Just on a hunch, I'd >say the first item in my list alone makes the Misfits a Glenn Danzig band. No one is debating the fact that Glenn wrote (lyrics) for all the songs. but lyrics alone do not a band make. The Misfits were not Samhain and they were not Danzig, the 'Fits were a band, not a solo project. Personally I don't think that the lyrics are all that important anyway, for the most part you can't understand a word he's saying. Glenn may be able to play a decent guitar today but then he couldn't. Glenn is a user, an abuser, and a fairly good spin doctor. If it was just isolated instances of him being a jerk, I might be able to agree with you. But time and again he proves himself an asshole. As far as Glenn being the Misfits for over a decade, yes, this is true. It is true not because he was allowed to be, but because he went behind everyone's back and copyrighted everything in his name. This is fact, not fiction. The Misfits financed his rise, as Danzig. He alone had the tapes that have been released as Boots. >> just that lately his music has become a bit to "cock rocky" for me. >>Really, >> think about "Until you call on the dark" this tune really gives me the >> feeling of Motely crue on MTV. >uhhh...have you been drinking? Motley Crue?? no, seriously, Motley Crue??? Just a bad example, the song is clearly anthemic and childish (lyrically) it prays on the hormonal imbalance of pubescent boys. I can just picture an audience of 16 y.o.'s thrusting there fist into the air to the beat of the music, banging they're proverbial heads. Give me "Sistinas" anyday. >anyway, Crimson, I read your post in the next Bible (#129) and I have to >agree with your comments. No hostility here, either. So we don't need to >call a truce anyway. No, a truce would be boring. We just fundamentally disagree on certain things. You are 19 and got into it through Danzig. I, on the other hand, am 30 and have been into punk since the 70's. I got into the Misfits 3 years ago after having to listen to Jerry, Doyle, & Chud (Sometimes Robo) play EVERY FUCKING DAY. Personally I'd rather listen to The Clash's Sandinista album, but hey, the Misfits are really a great band, original and creative. Glenn's just not so inovative these days. I'm not picking on you because of your age either, you have a good head on your shoulders, we just don't agree. I see your point and I believe when you read my posts you see where I'm coming from. --->Gala said: >Second, anyone notice that if Glenn hates the Misfits so much, he keeps >putting out Misfits stuff , why doesnt he put out a Samhain That's simple, It wouldn't sell as much. With all the recent covers of misfits tunes (ie:Metellica and Guns n Roses) the Misfits have become somewhat seminal. When Danzig got popular, in print he was always mentioned as "Glenn Danzig formerly of The Misfits". In short, who, besides us, would buy a samhain album, let alone a box set? --->Tom Spence said: >Ha! Hard core rules ('specially Agnostic Front) but the hardcore Misfits >are definitally less interesting to listen to than the old Misfits from >Legacy. The OLD Misfits stuff from Legacy?? Legacy of brutality is so overdubed that it makes collection II look archival. Legacy is not the Misfits, it's glenn. Listen to the 7"'s if you don't agree. >and drummer (Chud? - shitty name too!) an You should know what you are talking about before you speak if you plan to post with such authority. Chud is taken from the movie C.H.U.D. meaning Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller. In Chud's case it would be Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Drummer. I believe that this is an appropriate name considering the band. btw: that would be Dr. Chud to you. > From: brian trainor > ok, so far, i've been indirectly called jeuvenile, idiotic, and may other I think I was guilty of calling you juvenile. I think I told you to grow up, after you said "Glenn Danzig can die for all I care" attack me I you must but I say it again, this is exactly the petty shit throwing that is annoying, if you don't have something intelligent to say don't say it. Instead of saying you don't like Glenn why don't you expound on why, and be prepared with facts because this list will destroy you if you can't back it up. --->Bile666@aol.com >I was wondering if anyone who's taken Latin can help me out ... How do you >say "Evil Never Dies"? It's for something I'm writing. I know "evil" is >"malum" and "never" is "nunquam" but I neither know how to conjugate "to >die" nor which order the words should go in. Are there any Latin scholars >out there who can give me a hand? Nunquam is too general a word to use, it's like the english word "thing" it can mean just about anything, although it does connotate a negative meaning. The word "Malum" literally means bad. The best I can come up with would be: Nehil Malum Mortet = Nothing Bad Dies It's snowing like a motherfucker outside and my Latin dictionary is at the storage bin. Hope this helps. --->anthony daniel said: > This last Thursday I attended a signing at Einstein's Comics >here in Dallas, TX, at which Eric Canete (Igrat/Aeon Flux artist) and >Glenn Danzig were the guests. As I made it up to the table, Canete >politely informed me that Glenn would have nothing to do with "the brown >one", meaning Collection II. As soon as I had asked why, Glenn chimed >in saying that he had "nothing to do with it". He went on to say that >they are supposed to go through him with the graphic design, but didn't. Again Glenn saying he had nothing to do with it. It was his project from the start. To nick pick about the art and the lyrics at this point is an excuse for him not to recognize it. Any self-respecting fiend wouldn't argue to the fact that his hands are all over the musical content of the album, which is what your buying in the first place, not the fucking packaging. I don't give a fuck how politely he puts his refusal, he's still wrong. Hey Caroline Records, why don't you stop sending him a check for a little bit just to see how much he's really involved in the record? Well I've rambled on way too long, I hope everyone has a great holiday. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % "...they were a bunch of assholes If I could find the * * plug, I'd pull it and let the whole island sink..." % % Jerry Only - talking about Great Britain * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:58:07 -0500 From: "V. Tepes" Subject: my view I suppose it is all about speaking your mind whether people like it or not, so here goes... There were quite a few good posts last issue (#130) regarding the whole Danzig/Misfits feud. It can all be said, however, in a few words that we should all think about every once in a while as we bash on Danzig. If it were not for him, there would have been NO Misfits (though some may say otherwise). The difference between him and the Misfits (nothing against them at all, don't misinterpret me) is that he has moved on to different things, progressed. Whether the 'fits have done so remains to be seen, at least until they put out new music. The point is, Glenn no longer wants to be in the Misfits, and that isn't something we should hold against him because we don't like that view. I believe this has been said in one way or another, but don't judge Glenn as a person (ie, "Glenn is an asshole," "Glenn has no dick whatsoever,"-actual quotes) just because you would rather listen to Misfits than Danzig, which is actually more mature music, though I won't say that it has greater value. As for Collection II: I finally got it--dinky Hagerstown, MD finally got one copy in one record store--and I love it, with exceptions, of course. It's a great concept, bringing less available songs to people who don't have access to $40 boots and whatnot. And Return of the Fly is an awesome song. However, I think I figured out why people are putting it down as I listened to Braineaters, retching my guts out. Most of the people who bash C2 have other copies of the songs, which may or may not be superior to these, but at any rate they feel threatened because young punks like myself now have copies of last caress. Also, they have some sort of nostalgic ties to the old tunes and the old versions. WAU was the first Misfits album I heard, and I know that I consider that album's tracks on c2 to be utter blasphemy. Hate Breeders isn't bad, I like it at a faster speed, but Nike a-go-go is pretty bad, and I won't even begin to talk about Brain Eaters. My guess is that all the old fans feel the same way about the new versions of Attitude, We are 138, and the rest. 'nuff space taken, VT ------------------------------ Subject: "malum nunquam abolesco" (was "Evil Never Dies") Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:48:27 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Duran > From: Bile666@aol.com > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 09:43:51 -0500 > Subject: "Evil Never Dies" > > I was wondering if anyone who's taken Latin can help me out ... How do you > say "Evil Never Dies"? It's for something I'm writing. I know "evil" is > "malum" and "never" is "nunquam" but I neither know how to conjugate "to > die" nor which order the words should go in. Are there any Latin scholars > out there who can give me a hand? abolesco - to die, perish, vanish morior - to die, wither away, decay i think you'd probably want to use the 1st one. as for the order of words, while i don't know latin grammar, the spanish ordering would (literally) translate to either "never dies evil" or "evil never dies". so i guess either "malum nunquam abolesco" or "nunquam abolesco malum". i'm highly inclined toward the former tho'. -- richard duran rduran@cs.utep.edu ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 10:41:13 -0500 Subject: more stuff >>Alright, alright, alright, already. I would like to start off by saying >>THANK YOU!!!! to whoever put the post about the SESSIONS catalog. No problem. You're welcome. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 11:50:34 -0500 From: pmack@shore.net (Dave Asselin) Subject: questions, questions, questions... Okay, I'm throwing these out to the Bible, but we all know Mark's going to end up answering most of them. Anyway... 1) What is the best video footage available of the Misfits? I had the Creepy Compilation until recently, and I thought the "Why Be Something You're Not?" and the Flipside stuff was decent, but the rest just looked hideous. 2) Is there any pre-Doyle video (besides the Studio Zero stuff, which I gather is not available)? 3) When/Why did the band start conforming to a look? What I mean is: Franche', Bobby, Joey, etc. never 'dressed up'. It looks like Jerry started it first (with the blacked-out eyes), but when did the spikes, etc. first start appearing? 4) the Franche' version of "Children in Heat": It was allegedly recorded, but does the tape even exist any more? I didn't find any mention of it in the bootleg discog. Has anyone ouside of the principals ever heard it? 5) Earlier versions of the discography stated that the distribitor of the _Live 79! The Perfect Crime_ bootleg 7" had plans to distribite the entire show. New versions drop that claim. Does he still have the full show, and if so, why isn't he releasing it? 6) If the band can't release the Max's album, why are they holding on to it? Why don't they just try releasing the original (no dubs!) version of it? Although I've never heard the live "Attitude" on the Flipside comp, that was evidently good enough for a record... and hey, Bobby only had 2 strings at that point! Is releasing it through the fan club even an option? I want "Blue Christmas", dammit! End of rant. - Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:33:50 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Mark or Ghost clear this one up For about 3 weeks I thought I had everything clear on this COLLECTION II business that "Cough/Cool", "Hatebreeders", "Braineaters", "Nike-A-Go-Go" and "Devil's Whorehouse" were the Glenn Danzig edited tracks. Now I'm hearing from everyone and their brother that all the tracks are redone for the most part in the vocals at least then all the self-proclaimed Misfits "veterans" start preaching about the great 7" which are impossible to get at a good buy and I'm not inclined to go whooping out big dollars for a 7" that probably has dirt and scratches on it. So please clear up for me the tracks changed. I find no difference in the tracks from their originals. I have a tape of all the original singles plus a few boots and they sound no different except in quality. The ones on the CD are correct and supieor in quality. The 7" are usually off so the guitar and vocals would sound different but all this "difference in voice" stuff I just don't buy. Besides the edited tracks the rest are clearly the Misfits but if you would please just clear it all up things would be just fine. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 05:52:40 -0500 From: Miles@postoffice.ptd.net (ScreamingSlave) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #130 >First off, my reply to mark of lin01826@acad.suffolk.edu: > >First of all, there is no such thing as a punk revival going on. The >only thing going on is a bunch of bands cashing in on MTV. MTV is >the one calling it punk. Punk has nothing to do with Offspring, Green >Day, and all of those other BULLSHIT BUZZBANDS. NOTHING! Get it >straight, if MTV calls it punk, that doesn't mean it is. White >Zombie and Metallica have always been mainstream, and Metallica was >far from a recent sellout. Give me a fucking break about calling >RANCID sellouts. If you had any clue what Tim Armstrong has gone >through, you'd shut the fuck up. They write songs about true life, >not the bullshit the other 'buzz bands' write about. Since this is >the Misfits page, I will leave it at that. > >On the MTV topic: I plead to Jerry, Doyle, Chud, and Michale to stay >with the ideals of the 70's and 80's Misfits, and stay the hell away >from MTV. Stay true! What does not going on MTV have to stay true, now I agree that MTV really tries to sell everything they can get their hands on out.. but I wouldent mind seeing a "new" misfits video in 120min or something somenight.. And also, who cares if a few more people start listening to the misfits, thats rad, aslong as they like the music.. there is noithing wrong with a band trying to get some more fans/coverage/music, it's only when they are cocks to their fans that that should be shot down Evil never dies.... We shall never die... Live in vain.. Die in pain.. -Screaming Slave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 01:36:54 -0500 From: She Subject: in the doorways > From: Adam Christensen > HEY MARK! COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME? > WHAT IS A REASONABLE PRICE TO PAY FOR THE KRYST THE CONQUERER CD? i > ALSO, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE DEVILOCK, DID JERRY OR > GLENN HAVE ONE FIRST AND WHO STARTED CALLING THEM DEVILOCKS? DOES IT > HAVE TO DO WITH THE SONG? If I remember correctly, Crimson Ghost answered this perfectly already. > From: Ken Graf > > will be able to hear it at the shows, but what if they try to release another > about wheather or not it can be released? For example, if the Misfits go in > the studio, record an album with all new tracks, and try to release it, can > Glenn stop them? If he tries, I think it'll be real shitty of him. Glenn can't do anything to stop the Misfits from releasing stuff. He does however have some influence with Caroline, who wants to be sure that all parties involved are pleased. Also they realize that Glenn throws around lawsuits left and right. Who wouldn't worry about such a thing? I was worried for a time that Glenn would try to shut me down. He's seen my page and wasn't too thrilled with it. Some of you may have noticed that the link from the Danzig page to my Misfits page was removed. Ever wonder why? It's hard to please Glenn, and Jerry and Doyle overdubbing onto an old recording didn't help any. > Brett F confirmed the following: > > he wrote All of the misfits stuff. ( could someone please confirm this > > please?) > > confirmed. Hey Fiends, let's get this clear. Glenn was not the only person who wrote all the music. He happens to be the person CREDITED with writing all the music, but Jerry, Doyle, and the others in the band helped him arrange it. Jerry has stated this many times. And if you don't believe me or Jerry, just listen to the 'Rehearsal at the Pit' tape that's floating around. It's quite obvious that Glenn wrote the words and came up with the basic structure of the music, but Jerry, Doyle and Googy helped arrange the other parts of the songs (Die Die, Queen Wasp, and Hate Breeders). > From Holister: > Both of these are very important here. Danzig is a "related band," so is > Samhain, The Undead, Kryst.., Black Flag, and a few others. Thus, FUCK YOU! > For many of us, our interest in the Misfits began with Danzig and went > backwards from there. Most of us weren't even close to attending junior > high when the Misfits broke up. Thus it's hard to fill in a lot of the > blanks without learning about the other bands as well. Mark, EVB, CG, and > numerous others have give all of us a plethora of information on all the > bands. You two aren't the ones who put this out. However, Mark is, and > Mark gives all of us, even morons like you two, the opportunity to > contribute. Don't be fooled by the fact that this is entitled The Misfits > Bible, or that Mark's web page is Misfits Central. This is to help us learn > and keep updated on all of the bands. I know for a fact that if it wasn't Right on. > Whoever mentioned the thing about the Earth A.D. gold disc not being rare > (by the way, the page says that there are only 5000 copies of it, I think), The page does say 5000. These are the numbers I got from Caroline a few years ago when I called up and got someone at the office. Caroline seems to be quiet lately, so I doubt they'll bother to correct us if we're wrong, but I have a feeling the number is wrong. > From: Crimson Ghost > Actually I believe our fearless host, Mark, has already fucked up his locks > with the infamous ass-backwards pony-tail....mark? Fucked up my hair? No way. I spent a lot of time looking at Michale's hair, making sure I could get a good devilock. After seeing the guys at Coney Island, I knew I had no choice. So no I have a high quality un-fucked-up devilock. Very nice. > The UK magazine Kerrang! has just done a review of Collection II... if any US > people are interested in me typing it up for the Bible let me know. A word of > warning though... you ain't gonna like it! > Julian Julian - if you've got the time, please type it up. I'd love to see it. > QUESTION TO SAMHAIN FANS (or anyone with knowledge about them): > I have heard that SAMHAIN is pronounced sa whim. Anyone know if > that is true??? It's an ancient celtic/gaelic/irish word pronounced sa win. So you're almost there. By the way fiends, I added yet another paper on the origin of Samhain to the page, so check out the articles section for more info on Samhain. mark ------------------------------ From: CONLON@apsicc.aps.edu Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 23:50:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: Misfits stuff in abq, nm I'm just wondering if anyone out there knows of any places in albuquerque, new mexico that carry misfits stuff. I've found like 1 boot laying around adn that's it. Sorry to post this lame message, but hey, i'm gettin desperate. -Zac ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 01:53:44 -0500 From: She Subject: SA Posters More Static Age posters are available, so I'll be coming up with another contest soon. In fact, I'll reserve a poster for the top 4 people who can answer these questions (all but #4 are from back issues) 1) What is the name of my roommate? 2) What is my brother's name? 3) Which 2 MBible subscribers were organizing a Misfits tribute tape? 4) What is the longest Misfits song? mark ------------------------------ From: Sean Subject: More Sightings Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 02:08:09 +0000 Misfits here Misfits there Misfits every Fucking where!!! I was watching the movie "Love Affair" today and in the aiport departure scene there is a guy wearing the skull shirt.....And in the movie "3:15" they show the back of this class room and a guy is wearing the skull shirt backwards!!! Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:28:11 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #128 >Writing different music in 1995 than you did from 1977-83 does not make >you a sell-out, it makes you a creative person who is not trying to live >in the past and rehash clever (but comparatively, somewhat childish) music. I have two words for you: FUCK OFF!! Childish music?!?!?! Who the fuck the are you to say that one? From: Leedguitar@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 02:42:08 -0500 Subject: New versions >If anyone wants to know, Metallica Recorded London Dungeon to use as a >B-side for one of their singles from the new album due out in March. Interesting tidbit where did you get that from? I hope it will be as good as the Misfits did it!!!! Well fiends my time is up so I'll just keep lookind forward to issue #138!! "Who are you, to tell me who I am?" The Lonley Misfit ------------------------------ From: MisfitB@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 02:13:57 -0500 Subject: Keep it up The Lonley Misfit here. Kudos to all of the fiends bringing in the sightings. I have a book of over two hundred sights now. So keep up the good work. Adding one to list now. I went to see Green Day. The drummer (Who I might add has some unbeliavable talent.)(One of the best I have ever seen.)(Fuck all prejudice of the band, this guy has talent.)was wearing a Die Die shirt. You are the ones who live the lives of those who choose to cower in corners. Society has cast them out. Music will reel them in and bring us closer. The Lonley Misfit Grayslake Press, 1995 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 95 14:43:50 0000 From: "." Subject: FROM ME TO YOU ALL! MERRY X-MAS EVERYBODY!!! . . . . . . . . . .. . . ------------------------------ From: jschulz@inwave.com Date: Sat, 09 Dec 1995 04:53:54 -0600 Subject: Horror Business Hey Fiends! This is my first blah blah blah... I have been on the list for a little over a week now, and have read the last 4 issues, plus the first 23 and counting. Gotta love it. I have been a Misfits fan for years (got into them at 14, 23 now) but there aint shit in my area for good shops to buy Fits stuff. The only bootleg I have is the Beware: complete singles German CD. But I was wonderin if anyone can help me out. I have an old tape from HS with 1 single Misfits song. Horror Business. Its a version I have never heard on any of my CDs (earthAD, LOB, Coll2. MISFITS,BEWARE). Its a bit faster, and the end verse is different. It's "Nobody can do what I can do FOR YOU". Anyone got any ideas? Maybe a live track or somemthing? I love that version (although my copy is a bit worn out), and would sell my own worthless soul for the album it came from. Sorry to bore you with my insignificant bullshit, but hell I was bored. There are no people near me that are into the Fits. I freaked when I did a scan for Misfits on the WWW and found this. Too f*ckin cool. I have learned alot from you guys so far. BTW, you guys are like the "unholy Misfits librarians from hell". I think I have found a home here. Keep it up. The bible is the best thing on the Internet (Besides http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/). (Sin)...cerely Some other Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:57:38 EST From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: AGNOSTIC FRONT -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- DO ANY OF YOU BIBLE SUBSCRIBERS OUT THERE HAVE ANY AGNOSTIC FRONT VIDEOS??? I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY, AND DONT KNOW IF THEY EXIST, LET ALONE ANYONE OWNING ONE. REPLY VIA E-MAIL PLEASE. AFNF12A@PRODIGY.COM THANKS....TIM FROM PORTLAND ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 19:04:45 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dempz Subject: bowels... Damn that was funny, it's probably Bauhaus, not Bowelhouse. I like that better though. Anyway, the Black Flag singer who did Nervous Breakdown was Keith Morris, their first singer, and after that ep he went on to front the Circle Jerks forever. Other Black Flag singers have done that tune live and maybe even recorded it, I'm not completely sure...Agnostic rule Dempz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 03:30:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Bad Ninja Subject: Black Flag Tom Spence : Keith Morris sung 'Nervous Breakdown' and 'Fix Me' on the 'Nervous Breakdown' 7" (SST001?). What I can't remember without looking in my records is if those songs were sung by others too (check the 'and everything went black' compilation). Yannis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 03:07:38 -0500 From: She Subject: Chyna CHYNA Samhain fans will be glad to know that Steve Zing is back with a new band. Chyna consists of the following Lodi, NJ musicians: * Steve Zing - lead vocals, percussion * Elio Tommasi - guitar, vocals * Joseph Jay - keyboards, vocals * Tommy Hunter - bass, vocals * Johnnie Rago - drums * Mike Herman - saxophone, electronic winds Their debut album, released in December of 1995 on FLX Records, features the following songs: Chyna - In The Night 1. All Alone 2. Rain On My Parade 3. In The Night 4. My World 5. Eyes In The Mist 6. Looking Out 7. One Moment In Time 8. Eddie's Song 9. Wild Blossom 10. Hold Me Close 11. Heaven Knows This is Steve's first appearance since 1986's "Runaway" single. His new stuff is completely different from anything he's done before, so check it out. Complete your Samhain collection by getting this CD. It costs $8 from: FLX RECORDS P.O. BOX 948 LODI, NJ 07644-0948 __________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:45:15 EST From: MR MIKE D MOLLURA Subject: Merry X-mas -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Hey Fiends, Just wanted to say Merry X-mas from all your pals at Leech. 5 Song Demo (with cover of Some Kinda Hate) Send 4$ to: Mike Mollura 21 Golfview Lane Reading Pa 19606 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:37:22 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Scarecrow Beast and The Simpsons Hey Mark and everyone, This may or may not be on the page but the part with the pictures doesnt say anything about it. I dont recall where I got this info but it seems no one really has a name for the Danzig skull, and I dont know if it was in an interview with Glenn or what, but I've always referred to the skull as the Scarecrow Beast. Has anyone else ever heard of this or am I mistaken. Just curious but I've been calling it that for as long as its been around. And on another note, a couple of bibles ago some people thought it was weird that the simpsons had a special for the 138th show and thought maybe Matt Groening was a closet Misfits fan. Well has anyone ever noticed that one of the little bullies of the town wears a crimson ghost shirt all the time (at least it looks like a way to have him wearing one without having to pay for it, cause it's not really drawn right). I just thought it was funny. Later, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:31:56 -0500 Subject: Hello! Hey all, Just a note. Unfortunately one of my VCRs is now in VCR heaven. Therefore, if you want a video taped, I apologize, but I will not be able to do so. For all of you who I owe videos to. Fear not! I am borrowing a friend's for the week, and I will be able to finish yours. Sorry about that. Does anyone in the Chicago area know where I can get some 7" vinyl printed up? Chris ------------------------------ From: vandal@aloha.net Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:19:05 -1000 (HST) Subject: DANZIG vs. MISFITS & OTHER STUFF This is my first post to the Bible..etc...etc... Anyway, lets get down to business... Let me be counted as saying that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with talking about DANZIG on this page, whether it be his current album, in relation to his work with the MISFITS, or just about what a cool guy/prick he is... I think B.M. Fama's words on this were very clear...this page deals with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that deals with the MISFITS...and that includes DANZIG. Period. I am much more a Misfits fan than a Danzig fan, but I admit that Glenn's music has matured greatly since those old days of B-Movie lyrics and three chord punk. There is nothing wrong with Danzig wanting to remove himself from being associated with the Misfits...I don't think anyone wants to be linked to ONLY what they've done TEN years ago and not now...(I certainly don't want people to remember me for all the stupid things i've done in youth...) The creative process is progressive....Danzig's various musical incarnations reflect his moving on...and I for one admire him for it. When he played in Hawaii about three years ago(?) my friends and I got to meet him backstage and I have to say that he was tolerant and personable...I mentioned to him that I was a Misfits fan and he politely ignored the comment, so I never mentioned the Misfits again...Maybe you people have had different encounters with him, and I have heard the Horror Stories about him with the Misfits...but all I can say is he was cool to us.... For what its worth...I was first exposed to the Misfits as a little skater/punker dork in 1987...still in junior high. An older friend of mine had LOB, WAU and the MISFITS tapes...He had seen them live (or so he said) in the mainland (I live in hawaii). I was enthralled by the catchy tunes and "B-Film Born" lyrics (I AM A DIEHARD FAN OF SHITTY 50's HORROR/SCIFI TRASH)...and to this day I still think the MISFITS ARE THE BEST PUNK BAND THAT EVER WAS!! I got into Samhain, too, and not long after that Danzig started up. I still think that Danzig is a hell of a singer and songwriter.....SO THERE! One other thing before I quit this ramble....for the longest time I always thought the lyrics for "HORROR BUSINESS" were "you...I would've liked drowning you...I'm warning you.." instead of the "i'll put a knife right in you.." Pretty stupid, huh? I like Glenn's lyrics better. Let's here more of everyone's lyrical interpretations... Thanks for listening to my nonsense and feel free to tear it up...I hope get in touch with MISFITS/DANZIG fans...around the U.S.... Its's lonely here on this ISLAND.... VANDAL "THE ABOMINABLE DR. PHIBES" ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: evildon's question of the month hello fiends! about once a month i'll be posting a nonsensical question to the bible to just lighten things up a bit and just to see what some of you think. here's the first question: who's devilock's were better the misfits or samahin? this is not a question about who you think is a better band, who played mephisto waltz or whatever so take a close look a both band's and decide. try to use initium and walk among us as a reference if you have a hard time deciding. you can respond to me or the bible and when the next question comes up i'll post the results to the old one. come on, lighten up and tell us what you think. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 16:14:11 -0500 Subject: attitude i was listening to attitude last night and i am almost possitive it's: "...inside your feetal brain there's probably a whore, if you don't shut your mouth you're gonna' feel the floor..." i know you probably don't care but i figured i'd offer a suggestion to the ongoing question about it. i mean, it even rhymes. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach "...your bullshit lesson learned..." "perrenial", eustress urchin ------------------------------ Subject: Mike Graves From: brian trainor Date: Sat, 23 Dec 95 23:33:54 EST i was just wondering if anyone had any info on Mike Graves i.e. other bands he may have been in, where they found him, stuff like that. thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:58:38 -0500 (EST) From: "C.G. Walters" Subject: "Omen" lettering available I have the true-type font for your "Omen" lettering (actually casablanca-antique). Anyone who want a copy can send me a disk & postage. I'll send it immediately to you. e-mail if you give a shit & want it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:22:29 -0800 From: Devilman138 Subject: Glenn Danzig Check this place out if you already haven't: www.insv.com/verotik/ ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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I can't be bothered to make responses to every littel comment made, but someone chastised me for calling the Misfits "childish" music in the last Bible. Read my post again, buddy: I said it was "comparatively childish" (ie: to Danzig) and if you have a problem with that then your I.Q. must be pretty low. You call lines like "hack the heads off little girls and put 'em on my wall" mature?? Don't get me wrong, the song ("Skulls") is great and very clever BUT>>> I DID NOT SAY THE MISFITS' LYRICS/SONGS WERE BAD, I SAID THAT, COMPARED TO DANZIG'S, THEY ARE SOMEWHAT CHILDISH. I know I am inviting the flames for this one, but I don't care. Also, Mark argued that Glenn did not write all Misfits songs. Okay, I'm not gonna get into (another) whole argument about hwo wrote what, but if someone writes all lyrics and music *EVEN IF JERRY and DOYLE* came up with some changes and arrangements, WHO should be credited with writing the dsongs?? The guy who wrote the first 90-95% or the guys who came up with a few changes later on when recording or rehearsing? Okay, I don't wanna start a whole long argument (like I did a few months ago) on who contributed most to the Misfits. I feel this is treading on reducing Jerry's and the others' roles in the band, which is not something I want to do, or ever wanted to do in the first place. One last thing, someone else responding to one of my posts said Glenn played instruments only on "a few" Misfits songs. (NOT IF YOU INCLUDE LEGACY OF BRUTALITY). BTW, as far as I know, Glenn DID NOT lay on Earth A.D., so I don't know how you can claim Glenn "fucked this up" (or whatever exactly you said). lastly, anyone who flames EVB for the comments she made will die by my hand. I notice that, even when I write a HUGE post explaining my reasons for defending Glenn, someone invariably responds either misquoting me or ignoring 1/2 of what I said. As CG suggested, IF YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING, *BACK IT UP* OR GIVE REASONS!!! Just spitting out opinions and flames against someone else who has intelligently thought-out his post is not what should be going on. Disagreement is great, but if you just say "you suck", then you only add to the Bible's word-count, not its quality. that's it. -Brett "all the things you hold most dear ...gone!" ------------------------------ Subject: Apology From: brian trainor Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 21:40:54 EST i'd just like to say, sorry. i was fooled when this said "The Misfits Bible" i guess. i still stand true to what i believe in as far as i don't like Glenn Danzig, and i don't like Danzig(with the SLIGHT exception of It's Coming Down because it strikes some odd chord in me), and i'm not going back on that. but, oh, well. i guess now i know, and i can contribute what i can as far as info on Black Flag or the Undead info i get and stuff. so, sorry. i made a mistake. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:35:03 -0800 From: Mike Westlake Subject: evb and what not hello fiends, i was really happy to hear that EVB is alive and kicking, but it made me sad to hear her remarks about the many Misfits, anti-Glenn, etc. postings we've had on this list. I can't say that the Misfits we're ever just Glenn's band. Jerry (as well as others) obviously contributed immensely to the band. However, I think a lot of today's debate over the two of them stems from the fact that Jerry and Glenn appear to have completely different personalities. Glenn has always shown the desire to go forward without looking back (Check the old Samhain interviews on the page). That does take a lot of determination (whether you guys want to say it's because of money only or not) to do so. We evolve. We change. I will admit, it is a hell of a lot easier to go forward if you ignore or trash events in your past. That's a part of life. It's not pleasant, but it's something that many of us do. How many of us say that Michael Jackson really sucks? I do. But if we go back ten-twelve years, did many of us (most, probably) have Thriller blaring out of our cassette decks or record players? I sure did. I'm not doing the things I was doing five years ago. I'm sure most of you weren't either. Why should Glenn go back 12 years to make something happen again (which, by the way, could never be the same) if he doesn't want to? Robert Plant and Jimmy Page can get together all they want, but they'll never be able to regain the presence they had with Led Zeppelin. I'm almost tempted to call Glenn a visionary. He's looking to see what he can do next. Maybe it will be great. Maybe it will suck. Glenn's perseverance to look forward instead of back DOES deserve some respect. Jerry seems to be running more of a grassroots campaign these days. He knows that there are many, many Misfits fans out there who would love to see the band come back. As long as Jerry, Doyle, Chud, and Michale enjoy what they do, the more power to them. I know I'm certainly waiting for them to reach the west coast. Having the Misfits of today play the old songs...well, that's fine with me. Ozzy still plays black sabbath tunes (I think). However, I'm not going to really place judgment until they put out some new material. The new Misfits aren't a reunion tour! The new Misfits consist of four people, and Glenn is not one of them. Well, I'm quite content with that. The new Misfits will evolve as well. I doubt their new stuff with capture the past fully, but that's because we're going to look at it from that perspective. The new material may be really cool, but it seems we expect a certain "standard." If they put out a couple of good albums, why should we complain? Jerry cares a lot about Misfits fans, both old and new. If he can make people happy by playing Misfits music, he will. HE IS! Obviously a lot of the new Misfits focus right now is on the past. Why not? Some questions are finally being answered. We're learning that there is another side to the story. Some of the old albums are finally being put out. We had to wait 12 years! So, why are we complaining? Collection II: Yes, it was Glenn's project. Yes, he stepped in front of the Static Age and Max's X-Mas releases. Yes, he's denying that he had anything to do with it. Yes, he fucked with some of the tracks. Why? I don't really know. Maybe that's just the way Glenn is. Perhaps if he wasn't constantly badgered about the Misfits he'd be a little more willing to go along with things. Most Danzig articles always seem to mention that Glenn was part of the Misfits. In most Danzig interviews he's asked about the Misfits. And in the future I'm sure most Misfits articles will mention that Glenn used to be part of the band. How can Glenn manage to detach himself from the Misfits if nobody will let him? He's not looking back, yet we always assume it's just to piss everyone off. Maybe he likes the image of an asshole (sorry EVB, but he does show that image quite often when it comes to stuff like this). Now granted, I think he could have handled the whole Misfits situation a lot better than he has. I seriously doubt he's every looked back and said: "The Misfits sucked, why the fuck did I ever do that!" So he has more power with Caroline than Jerry does, but that's the past record he's got. That's the way it is. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you buy it and don't like it, sell it to someone who will. Glenn can be an asshole. I've often thought that myself. I think this really showed in John Christ's tour diary in RIP. He does what he wants to do. If you don't like it, fine. I don't care. He doesn't care. I love the music he puts out. Regarding the music, it doesn't matter to me if it's the Misfits, Samhain, or Danzig. The difference comes on what I expect him to tell us. I don't expect him to give us his breakdown of why Jerry should or should not attempt to bring any life back into the Misfits. I don't expect to hear his perspective on John and Eerie leaving the band over the summer (though I am certainly interested). However, I do expect him to fill us in on the new album and give us his perspective of it, as well as telling us what's going on with Verotik. That's reasonable. Wanting him to reminisce about the past isn't. That's just not the way he is. Glenn has made my life a little more bearable, and I'm very glad he continues to go forward instead of back. It's not easy to drive a car down the twisted road of life if you're constantly looking over your shoulder and grabbing something out of the back seat. If you don't like Glenn, fine, I can understand that. But I respect what he does, and even the way he does it. I haven't always agreed with the way he goes about things, and I doubt I ever will (the thing to note here is that it's "his" life to do with as he pleases, not mine to manipulate as I wish). Jerry and Glenn are different people. Stop expecting Glenn to be Jerry or Jerry to be Glenn. It's not going to happen, so just deal with it. The Misfits of new will never, NEVER be the Misfits of old. Can Nirvana ever be Nirvana again without Kurt Cobain? (okay, so I'm comparing the Misfits to Nirvana, but it proves my point) NO. However, I'm really looking forward to seeing Jerry and company. They've got a chance to make a lot of people happy with their efforts, and I truly hope to be one of them. So, for EVB, I hope you stick it out with us. I'm sure any info you can give us on Glenn or Danzig V or whatever will be greatly appreciated by many of us. You've been part of this list for a very long time and have contributed more than I ever hope to. We need you here. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say how grateful I am for your contributions. Mike Tehachapi, CA holister@summit.tminet.com mw005d@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:44:53 -0500 Subject: Mark Death JERRY ONLY INTERVIEW BY MARK DEATH 1. How old were you when you joined the Misfits? I was 17. 2. When you first joined the Misfits, what was your goal? To play hard music. 3. How come the Static Age LP was never released? We didn't have the money. 4. How do you feel about the Undead, Danzig, musically? It's not what I listen to. I like Priest and Maiden better. 5. What were your best and worst shows with the Misfits? The best was the Whiskey in L.A. The worst was in Houston. 6. What was the first Misfits show like? Strange. 7. Has Kryst had a show yet? Not yet. 8. What is your favorite Misfits 7" and LP? I like them all. 9. How do you feel about all the Misfits bootlegs? Do you own any? I don't like it. I own all I can find. 10. Do you think of yourself as a living legend? Not yet. 11. Is Kryst planning a tour anytime soon? Yes. 12. Do you think Kryst will ever be as big as the Misfits were? Hard to say. 13. In regards to the Misfits, would you do anything different? Yes, a lot. 14. What advice do you have for bands just starting out? Go to school. 15. What did "We Are 138" stand for? Robots. 16. How old are you now? 34. 17. Do you get any money from Misfits stuff sold now? Some, just from Slash records. 18. Do you have any closing comments? Good luck! WRITE TO JERRY ONLY AT: PO BOX 310 VERNON NJ 07462 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:03:35 -0600 From: Catherine Ehlinger sorry if this is double posted but i wasnt sure if i sent the first one or not does anyone know how i can get a copy of a misfits show??i would love to see them.also how can i get in touch with jerry??in my spare time i am a roadie/guitar tech and would love to take care of the guys on tour...thanks ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:26:22 -0500 Subject: "Evil Never Dies" I just wanted to thank Crimson Ghost and Richard Duran for helping me out with translating "Evil Never Dies" into Latin. Thanks a lot. Also, I don't know how many of you are as big a fan of Quentin Tarantino's as I am, but I've been waiting for the release of "From Dusk Till Dawn" for close to a year now. It's about two mass murdering, hell-bent bank robbers who stumble into a Mexican strip bar that turns out to be lousy with blood-sucking, gut-ripping, limb-ripping-off, naked vampires. It's my kind of movie. Anyway, if I pray REAL hard, the following Misfits songs would be used in the soundtrack ... 1) "Devil's Whorehouse" 2) "All Hell Breaks Loose" 3) "Last Caress" 4) "American Nightmare" Just a little wish from me during the holiday season ... Also, if anyone's looking for a Misfits type computer font, there aren't too many that fit the bill exactly. One called "Karloff" comes the closest. It's real gnarled and torn up. I tried to commission several people to make up a custom font based on the Misfits and Danzig logos but they all wanted to charge me $100+ and it just wasn't worth it ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: She Subject: In The Doorways Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:05:37 -0500 (EST) > From: pmack@shore.net (Dave Asselin) > > 1) What is the best video footage available of the Misfits? I had the > Creepy Compilation until recently, and I thought the "Why Be Something > You're Not?" and the Flipside stuff was decent, but the rest just looked > hideous. The best I've ever seen besides the 'Why Be Something You're Not' show is EVB's copy of the Boston Channel Club show. > 2) Is there any pre-Doyle video (besides the Studio Zero stuff, which I > gather is not available)? There is stuff out there that was filmed that has not surfaced yet, but otherwise the answer is no. > 3) When/Why did the band start conforming to a look? What I mean is: > Franche', Bobby, Joey, etc. never 'dressed up'. It looks like Jerry started > it first (with the blacked-out eyes), but when did the spikes, etc. first > start appearing? Jerry started it by accident and it just caught on. This was in the summer of '79. When Doyle joined in 1980, he already had the devilock and soon after Glenn conformed to the look. > 4) the Franche' version of "Children in Heat": It was allegedly recorded, > but does the tape even exist any more? I didn't find any mention of it in > the bootleg discog. Has anyone ouside of the principals ever heard it? The Static Age demos were let out back in '86 when Glenn loaned his tape to Curtis (of Taang! Records) for the 'All Hell Breaks Loose' Misfits radio special. Soon after this, bootelgs of the demos magically began appearing all over the place. Because Franche's 'Children In Heat' was never meant to appear on the _Static Age_ album, it wasn't on anyone's copy of the demos for the album. It's on the original master tape for the entire recording session, but not the mixing tapes for the album. Hopefully, it will be released one day. (hint hint, Caroline) > > 5) Earlier versions of the discography stated that the distribitor of the > _Live 79! The Perfect Crime_ bootleg 7" had plans to distribite the entire > show. New versions drop that claim. Does he still have the full show, and > if so, why isn't he releasing it? Not only does he have the full show, but he has two shows recorded on two consecutive nights back in the summer of '79. One day he hopes to see it released. I just thought it was a strange thing to include, so I took it out. > > 6) If the band can't release the Max's album, why are they holding on to it? > Why don't they just try releasing the original (no dubs!) version of it? > Although I've never heard the live "Attitude" on the Flipside comp, that was > evidently good enough for a record... and hey, Bobby only had 2 strings at > that point! Is releasing it through the fan club even an option? I want > "Blue Christmas", dammit! The band has nothing to lose by holding onto it. They won't let it get out just because of the rarity of Blue Xmas. They know that's the song we're all after and we can't hear it because Caroline cancelled it. So they continue to hope... The 'Attitude' on Flipside was not overdubbed in any way, and back then it was only Glenn who was in charge of getting the Misfits on record. Now, the situation's different. Apparently the un-overdubbed version of the show is of too poor quality to be released. > From: Gabriel Palczewski > > For about 3 weeks I thought I had everything clear on this > COLLECTION II business that "Cough/Cool", "Hatebreeders", "Braineaters", > "Nike-A-Go-Go" and "Devil's Whorehouse" were the Glenn Danzig edited > tracks. Now I'm hearing from everyone and their brother that all the > tracks are redone for the most part in the vocals at least then all the > self-proclaimed Misfits "veterans" start preaching about the great 7" > which are impossible to get at a good buy and I'm not inclined to go > whooping out big dollars for a 7" that probably has dirt and scratches on it. > So please clear up for me the tracks changed. I find no > difference in the tracks from their originals. I have a tape of all the > original singles plus a few boots and they sound no different except in > quality. The ones on the CD are correct and supieor in quality. Exactly. For the record: Cough/Cool is overdubbed and partially re-recorded. Hate Breeders, Nike A Go Go, Braineaters, and Devils Whorehouse were all re-recorded. Mephisto Waltz - we all know it's Samhain. The last 5 tracks were supposedly re-mastered although most people probably can't hear the differences. The rest of the tracks are exactly the same. Any differences are in the listener's head. > From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS > > Hey Mark and everyone, > This may or may not be on the page but the part with the pictures doesnt say > anything about it. I dont recall where I got this info but it seems no one > really has a name for the Danzig skull, and I dont know if it was in an > interview with Glenn or what, but I've always referred to the skull as the > Scarecrow Beast. Has anyone else ever heard of this or am I mistaken. Just The Scarecrow beast is the name of the creature on the cover of November-Coming-Fire. It's head is the Samhain/Danzig skull. > From: brian trainor > i was just wondering if anyone had any info on Mike Graves i.e. other > bands he may have been in, where they found him, stuff like that. > thanks. Michale was hanging out in the studio with his friend Bob Alleca back in the spring of this year when Bob suggested he audition for the Misfits. He had never heard them before and went out and bought the first compilation album to see if they were worth trying out. Eventually he went in and auditioned and they loved him. He's been in several bands before (none of which he likes to name) and has opened for The Undead. mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 08:20:19 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost --->Eerie Von Bouras said: >I've been getting a lot of mail asking why I don't post to the bible >anymore, so I figured I'd explain why... Basically, I quess I don't feel >qualified to do so anymore since the definition of what constitutes a >"Misfits fan" seems to have shifted in the minds of many of the more vocal >Bible posters. It seems to me that nowadays to be a "Misfits fan" you gotta >slam Glenn for his steadfast refusal to go back to what he was doing a dozen >years ago instead of moving on. I for one would never slam Glenn for going backwards. Actually I think Cantspeak is the best thing he's done in a long time. My problem with GD is not what he's doing now, my problem is his "steadfast refusal" to discuss a prior band. He not only refuses to discuss it, but repeatedly refuses to recognize it. He also is sometimes abusive to fans when they ask him to sign something ('fits related). I saw Leslie West recently, he has definately moved on musically. When I saw him backstage, he gladly signed a Mountain album for me. Mountain is a band that hasn't been together in what, 25 years? There was also a real sour grapes breakup after Felix died. David Johansen (Buster Poindexter) when asked about the New York Dolls acted similarly, he was appreciative of the fact that someone actually cared what he was doing a long time ago. I would never try to talk to Glenn after a show, I'm not the kind of person to pussyfoot around anything, sure I'd want him to sign 4p, but I couldn't resist asking him to sign WAU and asking him a few questions. I would probably get my ass kicked. In any case it boils down to this: Glenn is a performer, he makes his living off his fans. He makes $'s when you buy Danzig, Samhain and Misfits albums. If it weren't for the fans he would be broke, musical genius or not, without the fans he's nothing. I could care less about what happened back then, he's correct in that respect, it's over, but when a fan asks you to sign a official copy of an album that you sang on, an album your getting royalty checks on, you fucking sign it. Either that or you don't sign anything at all. As for you not being "qualified" to post as a Misfits fan, no offense but that's a cop out. Your a bigger fiend than I am! This list will never be all peace and love towards Glenn you've known that from the start. Regardless we need your input. There's a lot we don't agree upon, but there is a lot that we do. You've also changed my mind on a number of things. So in closing, think 2 or 3 times about what you are going to do. If you leave you will be sorely missed. --->Someone said this in #130: >On the MTV topic: I plead to Jerry, Doyle, Chud, and Michale to stay >with the ideals of the 70's and 80's Misfits, and stay the hell away >from MTV. Stay true! Stay true to what? Some antiquated mindset that says you must starve in order to be "true" to the music you play? If the Misfits were given the chance to have a large audience in 1977 they would have gladly taken it. Face it the way to make money today is by getting on MTV. Glenn experienced a rapid growth of fans after beevis & butthead put "Mother" on their show. Read: Fans = Sales = Revenue. MTV is the FM radio of the next century, embrace it. Yes it may be drenched in advertisements, but hey, so is the internet these days. The ideals and technologies of the 70's & 80's are dead, may they burn in hell. Don't get me wrong, I personally hate MTV, but for different reasons. They never have any music I like on, this to will change. I see multiple MTV's on the horizon, more tailored to individual tastes: ie: Dance, Rap/Hip Hop, Rock, Classic Rock, Alternative etc... This would please everybody since you would hear what you like and the advertisers could peddle to distinct demographic. in the next 20 years MTV or it's replacements will be all there is. With the rapid expansion of accessable information (internet), everything will be done as such. I tend to believe that we will watch music on the TV (Computer Display) and if we like it we can "order" the album, electronically. All we need to be able to do this is fast, efficient commpression and digital connections, able to download 650 MB of data in say, 10 minutes. This is not unrealistic, just 10 years ago we were all using 1200 baud modems; 28.8 kbps seemed unreachable then, now we have digital 128 kbps lines. The rest of the technology is in place. Shit it sure would beat going to a record store. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % "...they were a bunch of assholes If I could find the * * plug, I'd pull it and let the whole island sink..." % % Jerry Only - talking about Great Britain * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ From: bengl@interserv.com Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:01:53 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #131 Hey I've reading the bible for about a month and a half now and there are a few things I really wanna say so hear goes. I've been listening to the misfits for about 2 years now and I havent heard anything of theres that I havent loved. I got into the misfits because I saw someone who I thought was cool with a misfits tattoo so I bought "legacy of brutality" when I noticed it in a record store. I don't however have 100's of dollars to spare or the time to find all the old misfits albums though I would love too and it really makes me sick that having the mythical "7'S" of destiny has become such a status syble. You who have the albums have because you either were around at the right time and place or because you've got gobs of money or time to put into having them so stop talking down to people who weren't cool enough to be born in th 60's and be exposed to the punk scene at the right time. Also Glenn Danzig is only a person and (for most of you atleast) not someone you spend a great deal of time with so let him be an asshole if he wants. All of you would get bored doing the same thing for a decade too (unless it involved whining about rock stars)so why shouldn't glenn live his own life too? sorry I just ahd to get that of my chest. oh and if any of you are gonna mail me to call me and idiot and not say anything else please don't bother. + + ------- -Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:53:55 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Writing Credits Mark wrote: > >Hey Fiends, let's get this clear. Glenn was not the only >person who wrote all the music. He happens to be the person >CREDITED with writing all the music, but Jerry, Doyle, and >the others in the band helped him arrange it. Jerry has >stated this many times. And if you don't believe me or >Jerry, just listen to the 'Rehearsal at the Pit' tape >that's floating around. I believe that is the pratice session that I transcribed... I believe that I later asked mark to remove it from the bible. I see no harm in posting it again. Do you still have a copy of it mark? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:54:39 -0500 From: CrmsnGhost@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 12:26:51 -0500 Subject: Rehearsal Transcript **IMPORTANT READ ME FIRST***************************************************** This Transcript may *NOT* be reproduced or posted in any way without the expressed written consent of "The Crimson Ghost"--that's me if you have your head up your ass---cg ****************************************************************************** REHEARSAL TRANSCRIPT MISFITS DATE: Approx. 1981 LINEUP: Glenn Danzig - Vocals Jerry Only - Bass Doyle - Guitar Arthur Googy - Drums LOCATION: (Jerry's Garage) Caiafa Residence, 281 Grove Street Lodi, NJ "Queen Wasp" VOICE: Play Dick! NOTE: Band plays "Die Die My Darling" VOICE: Play Douche! NOTE: Band Plays "Hate Breeders" VOICE: 6 Right? (in reference to the end of "Hate Breeders) (Jerry made it 6 - Googy thinks 4) EVERYBODY: Well, you're wrong! NOTE: Bass Starts - Then drums on "Queen Wasp" JERRY: 4 means go! (To Googy) GOOGY: How's the Wasp go? NOTE: Doyle grinds out the "Wasp Sound" Band works out drum beat Glenn: Not real robot like though Glenn: Play Cunt Voice to Googy: That's the other one Note: Bass starts - drums enter - Googy catches on Googy to Jerry: 4 - 4 - 4 lead wasp chorus Jerry: 8/2 8/2 4 - 4 (Doyle checks out arrangements) (Jerry & Doyle work out ending) Doyle: I think it's too short, that's it Glenn: Fuck it's good the way it is - let's go! Jerry: No, it sounds good Glenn: You guys are the first ones to hear this new song (Referring to the fact that the song is being composed right there at the moment) Googy: And the original words, whoa! Note: The only words written were "Whoa" and "Queen Wasp" Jerry to Googy: Me 'n' him (Doyle) will stop dead and you will hit the cymbal and do that shit - (Jerry writes "Cut" ending) Jerry to Googy: Whatever you can get (meaning ending crashes) Wanna take the ending - Take 8 Note: Band plays song Jerry: Let's do something we all know and love (Having just learned the song earlier) Voice: "Mommy" Note: Doyle plays guitar "Mommy" Googy to Jerry: How's it go (Wants a quick arrangement) Jerry: 3 sets - 4/2 4/2 Googy: (Excited) Oh Yeah! 4/2 4/2 4/2 - n - Stop Note: Googy gets excited he remembers and claps sticks together Doyle: I got a new part to add in that song too! Note: Googy plays drums to " Mommy" Doyle: Play like "All hell breaks loose" Note: Doyle hits hands against chest to show Googy Note: Jerry tells Googy where to play Jerry: 4 times then bum-bum-bum at the end is where you go Glenn: No, you don't go (play's chest) - Play till he gets it right! Glenn: Hit the snare and let's go! Voice: After he say's Mommy Jerry: Hit the snare let's go! Glenn to Jerry: There's eight of them there right? Doyle: Like "All hell breaks loose", Googy can't get it Googy: 4 - n - 4 8 times at the end Googy: yeah there's 4 of them I only did 3, Wanna do the whole song? Glenn to Jerry: Do you want to throw anything else in? Jerry: No!, Yeah!, we've just learned 3 songs Voices: Let's do something else - not the "Wasp" - let's do another one Jerry: "Astrozombies"? Googy: We haven't done that in a long time Voice: what time is it? Glenn: Yeah we gotta go for those tapes Glenn to Jerry: Do you want to give these guys a few minutes on tape? Jerry: Yeah I guess Googy: Fuck-it we'll come and practice Saturday for a few hours Googy: Pick your favorite, the one you love the most Jerry: "Martian"? Glenn: I don't know if "Martian" needs work Jerry: I don't give a shit what we do! Voice: "Night of the living dead"? Glenn: What doesn't Arthur end with? Voice: "Bullet" Note: Jerry forgets it momentarily Googy: Holy Shit! (He can't believe Jerry forgot something) Note: Jerry Remembers it Jerry: Got it, Let's Go! Note: Band plays "Bullet" :END TRANSCRIPT: Hope you all enjoyed reading this..Look in future issues for my exclusive 1995 interview with Jerry..I hope that this interview will turn out to be the end all tale. I will try to cover some of the holes that were in the Mike Stax "Ugly Things" Interview.. +---------------------------------------------------------+ |The Crimson Ghost |"God save the queen, from | | | facist regime" Johnny Rotten | || | | |"Castles made of sand melt into | |Hopatcong, NJ USA | the sea, eventually" Jimi Hendrix | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:17:39 -0500 From: She Subject: Chris Ternes Chris Ternes has kindly typed up many new articles for the page. Take a look if you get the chance. Thanks Chris Also, for NY fiends - Bobby Steele's new band Times Square will be playing at the Continental on January 7th. I think it might be a free show. Please go and let us know what they sound like. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:08:05 +0100 From: Franz Ardito Subject: Collection II Just wanted to tell that here in Italy Collection II has reached the 3rd place on a chart made by an important Italian music magazine called "Dynamo". It states that Collection II is a "well worth buying compilation with all the rare Misfits stuff". Buon anno a tutti (happy new year to everyone) Franz Ardito e-mail: vag1865@iperbole.bologna.it >From somewhere in Italy.. "I'm the kind of guy your mother warned you about" ------------------------------ Date: 01 Jan 96 20:10:10 EST From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@compuserve.com> Subject: Misfits Bible, #131 Here is a Misfits sighting for the Bible: Vacuum Records (Timojhen Mark) has a record by Rocket From the Crypt called "Rocket Queen" ($4.25). It is a limited edition of 500 that looks like it may be bootleg. It has a live cover of "I Turned into a Martian", the singer says "This is a Misfits song, you like Misfits? Hey, where's Pushead??". Overall it's a pretty bad recording - I liked it. Paul- 102164,134@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:29:00 -0600 From: Catherine Ehlinger Subject: misfit videos alright im not sure if my first post made it but in case it didn't...hats off to the creators of the bible.it gives me something to read at work.anyway does anyone have any misfit videos??????all I can offer for a copy is money for the blank tape,postage,and like five or ten bucks for the trouble.mail me if anyone has any at all.i would like to start a collection.by the way what is the official release date of the box set.im dying to know.i was also curious as if anyone would like to form a misfit tribute band.hell i have all the lyrics and music to almost all of the songs.i think it would be a great way to honor one of the best horror punk bands.mail sugestions,and interested people,anyone have a good name for it.also does anyone have any flyers from shows.i would like to start collecting those also.thank you.....see you all next time...till then peace love and a slow death.........the astro zombie ------------------------------ From: Corpse138@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:56:38 -0500 Subject: Some stuff to trade I just went through my tape collection and found a Metallica show from Ruthies Inn, Berkeley, CA 8-24-85(not 95!) and they play London Dungeon. A guy named Rich Burch(...Bang that head that doesn't bang...) is on vocals. I've also got a couple of Misfits shows, Detroit 1981and LA 4-8-83. More trade bait: live 7 Seconds, Agnostic Front, Minor Threat, Gang Green, COC, an old Bad Brains demo, tons of live Slayer, Metallica, Metallica demos+interviews, Mercyful Fate, Megadeth, Exodus(w/Kirk Hammet), Negative Approach live. Heres more: Misfits coughcool/she boot 7", Fiend Club boot 7" w/Horror Hotel, Ratfink, Spook City USA. Also live Faith, Void, just tons of stuff! Here's what I need: Any rare and live Smashing Pumpkins, including non LP b-sides, cover tunes, etc OR Any live Misfits or Samhain, soundboard if possible. I've got about 150-200 live tapes and demos that I used to trade in the mid 80's. Hardcore, punk, speed and death metal. MANY bands not listed! Let me know what you want. I need Smashing Pumpkins live and rare tracks!!!! the Misfits are my faves and have been for about 10 years. C'mon, let's start trading!! Oh yeah, one more thing for all you Mac users out there. I have about 15 Misfits PICT's that are way cool. Send $5.00 to cover the costs for a disk and postage and handling or Send me some God Damned Smashing Pumpkins live and rare stuff! Or Misfits or Samhain stuff. Email me now!! Mike Sowers Corpse138@aol.com 8711 49th Avenue College Park, MD 20740 Bye for now, I'll post on how I got into the 'Fits, what I think on their new plans, etc. another time. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, or for back issues, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu The Misfits World Wide Web page is located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Lyrics the box set ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hunnysmack@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:17:50 -0500 Subject: news... Fiends - I talked to Jerry earlier today and I'd like to pass on to you two things. The first is that the box set will be out on the 26th. I'm assuming he means January, but I could be wrong. Also, a bit of good news is that they'll be touring in February. The bad news is that it's in EUROPE (well, I guess if you're a European fiend, this is GREAT news!). I hope this answers some of the questions. I haven't read an issue since the middle of January, so I don't know if you've already learned this stuff from Mark or Caroline, etc. BUT - keep your eyes right here in the bible because I could very well have a huge announcement soon depending on what goes down in the next couple of weeks. Sorry, no hints because there is no way I want to jeopardize this in any way. Okay, to the winners of the tapes, I'm sorry I've been so slow but I just spent a week snowboarding in Vermont and haven't been around to process all the orders. I'll be shipping out a few tomorrow - so head's up. Also, some of the winners did not get their orders in by the time I left PSU for home - DON'T WORRY. I'll just send them to you after I go back on the 9th. Sound good? I guess that's all for now. Take care - Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:40:42 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: Flipside Video Does anyone know if there's a possibility of this being released legitimately? This is a really great video, at least the best quality one as far as i can tell of the old misfits. i'd figure considering the legal problems should be resolved, it shouldn't be a problem... and FS is rereleasing that stuff again too... Though glenn might not have signed a release. heh. Happy New Year or whatever jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:03:32 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: sightings Fiends, we are now into the lucky 13th year since the breakup of the Misfits... anyway, someone mentioned something about getting into the Misfits after seeing a tattoo from LOB that someone had, and this reminded me of another "Misfits sighting": a couple years ago, on some show like 20/20 or maybe 60 minutes (I can't remember exactly) there was a story about some family who lived next door to this homosexual, and they were harassing him, and so the guy set-up his video-camera to record the harassment. He got himself on tape getting icked and beaten while trying to water his lawn or something. The 17 or 18 year-old son of the neighbours' family (who beat him up) was arrested, and they showed some police photos of him and his tattoos, one of which was the skeletal-singer from the back cover of LOB, standing on a pile of skulls. As the camera panned over his tattoos, the announcer said something like "the police linked the boy's tattooes to the belief that the white race was superior to others" (the guy had several other tattooes, one of which was a very cheap-looking [as in probably home-done] tattoo of a swastika). Probably not the best publicity the Misfits ever got... some more sightings...in #9 of Erik Larsen's comic "The Savage Dragon," some character makes reference to a recent crime or murder-spree, and calls it a "Legacy of Brutality." I doubt that this could be anything other than a reference to the album title. Also, I think in #10, in the letters page someone suggests that Larsen give the Dragon "big 'ol sideburns like Danzig", to which Larsen replies: "what a great role model." I can't remember the page the comment in #9 was on, and I can't check because I gave the comic (actually the whole series) to my friend because it sucked so bad. and finally...CG. (of course I couldn't resist my obligatory response to CG's comments...) There seems to be a bit of a misconception among many Misfits fans...I don't know if you think this exactly CG, but I got the impression from your post that you did: Glenn Danzig DOES sign Misfits merchandise, provided it is legally-issued (okay, except Collection II). Craig Walters (aka "C.G.Walters") got an original vinyl Earth A.D. signed by Glenn, as well as Lucifuge and other Danzig stuff. Personally, I have only met Glenn once, and I didn't have any Misfits stuff with me for him to sign, but I'm sure there are hundreds of instances others could cite in which Glenn signed Misfits stuff. But there are also cases (supposedly other than cases of him refusing Collection II) where he has refused to sign Misfits stuff. I suspect in most of these cases it's bootlegs he won't touch, but I guess it is possible that on some days he doesn't even want to touch ANY Misfits stuff, depending on his mood or whatever. I'm not saying this attitude of his is right or wrong, nor can I presume to pass judgment on it, but I guess my point is that if you want to get something signed, either don't bring any Misfits stuff at all, or bring some Samhain or Danzig stuff as back-up. If you're lucky, you might get both things signed, as I (accidentally) got both Satanika #1 and Verotika #2 signed...then the bastard security-guard stepped in and bitched at me... So all I'm saying is, if you go to a signing...be prepared. later. -Brett "...'cause you were bred to take it" ------------------------------ From: She Subject: In The Doorways Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:36:45 -0500 (EST) > From: Catherine Ehlinger > them.also how can i get in touch with jerry??in my spare time i am a > roadie/guitar tech and would love to take care of the guys on tour...thanks The answer is at the end of every issue: > The Misfits mailing address is: > > Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 mark ------------------------------ From: Osito666@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 01:29:50 -0500 Subject: Glenn Danzig Crimson Ghost, Glenn is a performer. A good one. But it's not fair to say he makes his living off of his fans. He makes his living off of his music. He's not asking for money for nothing. If he quit making records and asked us all to support him, then he'd be making his living off of his fans. You seem to think that buying one of his records means you've bought a piece of him and he should treat you with more respect than he would anyone else. I'm sure he's appreciative of people taking interest in his music but how far do you want to take it. Should he start asking your advice about what color to paint his kitchen? Glenn makes a record, you buy it, end of transaction. Of course Leslie West, Buster Poindexter, Jerry Only and Doyle are more than willing to talk about the past. It's their glory days. The good old days. Who do you think would be more interested in relieving their highschool football victories? Joe Montana or Al Bundy? I was with Joe McGoldrick when Danzig refused to sign his copy of Collection II. What Joe didn't tell you was that Glenn did sign my copies of the first collection, Legacy Of Brutality, Earth AD Gold, Initium, November-Coming-Fire, Final Descent and the first Danzig album. Glenn's bodyguard said, "That's enough stuff." Glenn ignored him and said, "Keep 'em coming." And I did. If he isn't happy with Collection II then I wouldn't want him to sign it. He shouldn't have to sign something he has mixed feelings for. He should, however, collect whatever royalties he is due. He earned them. There is a difference between writing a song and arranging a song. Danzig wrote the Misfits songs. The Misfits arranged them. You copyright a song. That means you copyright the lyrics and the lead melody line. You only copyright an arrangement if it is a significant arrangement. That doesn't mean figuring out when to stop or deciding if you should play a part twice or four times. It means a real arrangement. Completely different accompanying parts. Danzig owns the copyrights to the songs. He takes all of the credit because he deserves all of the credit. The Misfits music does not warrant a separate arrangement copyright. Of course the arrangement, however minimal, makes a difference as to how you perceive the underlying song. No one is arguing with you. A museum curator chooses the lighting that allows you to see a painting. That doesn't mean he painted the picture. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:06:12 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Week ---> B.M. Fama said: >responses to every littel comment made, but someone chastised me for >calling the Misfits "childish" music in the last Bible. Read my post >again, buddy: I said it was "comparatively childish" (ie: to Danzig) and >if you have a problem with that then your I.Q. must be pretty low. You >call lines like "hack the heads off little girls and put 'em on my wall" >mature?? I.Q. Low? Indeed..Ya know Brett you almost had my respect, until you decided to pick on *Glenn's* lyrics. The lyrics do not make a tune childish. Childish music along with childish lyrics, make a childish tune; ie: "Flying Purple People Eater" The lyrics don't count for squat! Frank Zappa made quite a point of this with the most absurd, childish lyrics teamed with very, technically, perfect music. Compared to Zappa (and many others) every thing Glenn's done seems "somewhat" childish. Does that mean I don't like it, Fuck NO! The Misfits comparatively childish to what? Danzig... Please don't compare the two. They are, for the most part, totally different. The 'Fits are a punk band. Punk is 3 chord rock, it's supposed to be rough around the edges. Danzig ain't nothin' more than 3 chord hard/alt/indust rock that's over-produced, with the benefit of more money in the recording/equipment budget. You can quote "Hack the heads..." till your blue in the face. big fucking whoop! Do you think I'm overly impressed by the likes of: "Mother do ya wanna have incest with me.."? (this is an obvious parody of "mother" for those of you that haven't a clue) My point is the lyrics don't hold much value for me at all. As the father of a 3 year old, I don't like the line: "I killed you baby today...." But Last Caress is one of my fav's. I'm sorry if I'm redundant about the lyrics but that's how I see it, anyone have any comments....? >someone writes all lyrics and music *EVEN IF JERRY and DOYLE* came up >with some changes and arrangements, WHO should be credited with writing >the dsongs?? The guy who wrote the first 90-95% or the guys who came up >with a few changes later on when recording or rehearsing? Brett did you ever wonder _why_ Glenn settled the lawsuit out of court? >One last thing, someone else responding to one of my posts said Glenn >played instruments only on "a few" Misfits songs. (NOT IF YOU INCLUDE >LEGACY OF BRUTALITY). This is highly debatable - it's overdubbed no doubt, but who played is another arguement entirely. I don't think anyone on this list can prove either way so let's not even start this one. For the sake of arguement I do not count LOB as a TRUE Misfits release, as Glenn was the only one making money off it. Remember people the misfits were a band not a solo project. Nobody but Glenn made a dime off shit like Legacy. But I'll tell you a story; when my neighbor's kid gave me his LOB CD and asked me to have it signed by Jerry & Doyle they signed it no problem, God knows they had good reason not to sign it. No "Handlers" were there to say that they wouldn't sign the 'Black one', the only thing said was "no problem, ya got a marker?" >lastly, anyone who flames EVB for the comments she made will die by my >hand. I notice that, even when I write a HUGE post explaining my reasons >for defending Glenn, someone invariably responds either misquoting me or >ignoring 1/2 of what I said. I happen to share your view on the above entirely, just replace the word Glenn with Jerry. ---->ChristoTer@aol.com said: >Subject: Mark Death >JERRY ONLY INTERVIEW BY MARK DEATH Is this interview for real? I've never seen it, it's also real out of character for Jerry. Meaning the "one word" responses, Jerry just dosn't respond to anything that way. He goes into loooooong diatribes about everything. I believe I asked him once "Why didn't the Misfits put out an album until '82" I was rewarded with a 1/2 hour lecture about all sorts of shit about the record industry back then. --->Catherine Ehlinger said: >i would love to see them.also how can i get in touch with jerry??in my >spare time i am a roadie/guitar tech and would love to take care of the >guys on tour...thanks Send a letter to Jerry directly. He reads *all* the mail. Make it interesting and include a picture and bio. Jerry Only P.O. Box 310 Vernon, NJ 07462 %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % "...they were a bunch of assholes If I could find the * * plug, I'd pull it and let the whole island sink..." % % Jerry Only - talking about Great Britain * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 15:37:16 EST From: MR MIKE D MOLLURA Subject: Earth Ad and other Stuff -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Ok B.M.- I've heard from many places that Glenn overdubbed guitar tracks into almost all the songs on Earth AD. I know a few ppeople who talked with Jerry and Doyle and they confirmed this to them. If you have heard the Beyond Evil boot, the Demon-o-mania and Queen Wasp Instrumental (The ones that are on Earth AD) appear in there purest form. It sounds real good. Glenn took the tapes and over dubbed his guitar and who knows what else in there after the band broke up in late'83. Read the Ugly Things article! Jerry expains it in there. Also, if you hear the actual Static Age demos, it makes L.O.B. look pathetic. Besides, Jerry's said that he's heard his bass in all the songs. I'm not sure about the guitar. The drum tracks sound alot the same too (I can tell, I am a drummer). The vocals on a few of the songs *might* have been re-recorded. But it seems like he just fucked up the mix to make it sound different, then claim to have re-recorded it so he doesn't have to pay the others. Who killed Marylin, Halloween, and Eagles didn't sound any different then the Horror Business demos. But thats just my opinion, any one who knows or thinks differently, please let me know. Don't say you suck, or fuck you, because I am just saying this from what I have heard from very reliable souces.-Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:03:59 +0100 From: "Dr. Ifter" Subject: Glenn/'Fits? Hah! Do you guys have to continue all this Glenn vs. the Misfits bullshit? I mean, we're all in here for the music, right? Those who like the Misfits will listen to the Misfits and those who like Danzig will listen to Danzig and those who like Qwylthulg will listen to Qwylthulg. I personally don't care if the guys in a band are nazis, assholes, posers, or if they only do it for the money, or whatever. Of course I get that extra kick if they think the way I do, but if they don't - the music is still there, and that's what matters. So listen - Glenn and the 'Fits can sort their problems out by themselves. I don't care. I'm still gonna listen to both of 'em. Why flame each other? Cheerz, Drifter. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:37:41 -0600 From: Eric Gulbrandsen Subject: Where are they now??? I've been wondering for some time where are the other past members of the Misfits such as Mr.Jim, Robo, Franche Coma, etc... What are they doing now and where are they at??? Also I have just gotten ahold of a Black Flag Video with Robo in it-it's an old Target Video-1983 some cool stuff on it if anybody wants to trade some stuff for it drop me a line. Thanks Gulliver <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 'Rise above We've gotta rise above' -Henry Rollins egulbrandsen@foxvalley.tec.wi.us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ From: Nachtwolf@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:53:08 -0500 Subject: The music is what matters... This is my first post to the Bible, as I have just recently begun receiving it. My background (as if it really matters): I got into punk in '81, and into the Misfits shortly thereafter. They have always been my favorite band, but due to a poverty-stricken youth, I had very few records. Most of what I had was recorded from friends. The point I want to make: I find it humorous to read all the "Glenn is an asshole" posts. From friends of mine who've met him, I get the same story. But I don't really give a damn. Its the music that has always drawn me in (that goes even more for the lyrics). People need to enjoy the "art" for what it is. Admire the talent, of not only Glenn but of all the previous members. Lighten up a little. Even if Glenn is a big prick, he's hardly Hitler, and chalk it up to enormous talent=enormous ego. Hardly the first time that equation has come up in the fields of creativity! Maybe add a dash of Napoleonic Complex, and there you go. And ask yourself, if you never heard anything about/from him, would you think any differently about his music, past or present? One more thing, I am interested in getting some tapes of rare Misfits/Samhain music. I have no interest in collecting vinyl, I just want to be able to hear the old tunes. I am somewhat of an anti-collector anyway (I tend to throw away things). Anyone interested in taping what they have for me can email me to discuss terms. nachtwolf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:20:30 -0500 (EST) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: ok i was wrong ok, I'll retract what I said a few issues ago about danzig posts being irrelevant... apparently a lot more people on this list enjoy hearing about Danzig than I figured. fine, you'll hear no more complaints from me, but please, please, for christ's sake it's FETAL, not FEATLE or FEETAL. BAUHAUS, not BOWELHOUSE. YOU'RE = YOU ARE, YOUR = BELONGING TO YOU. I don't mean to offend but I can't endure these abuses of the language. You can't flame a guy for trying to help. ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:42:30 -0500 Subject: Spring Chiller Theatre Show I just learned that the next Chiller Theatre Toy & Film Convention will be April 12th through the 14th. I know I'm saying this almost four months in advance but I thought I'd give you all the early word. If I hear who all is going to be there in the upcoming months, I'll let you all know. I hope Jerry & Doyle will be there as they have been for the past few. Hopefully their product line will be bigger this time out, too. I'm really waiting for those "Chiller Theatre" videos they plan on doing. Joe Bob Briggs has a similar line of tapes ("Bloodfeast", "2000 Maniacs!", etc.) and does a really good job with the films by adding a bit of background and trivia to the films before and after. If Jerry and Doyle keep away from that goofy Elvira or "Mystery Science Theatre 3000" shtick and just give the viewer some insight into and background on the film instead of making fun of it (who wants to buy a movie that the host keeps claiming is one of the worst ever made?), I think they'll do a good job too. In my opinion, it would be cool if they would end each video with a different live song (or songs) to really make it worth the buyer's money. Anyway ... - BILE666. - I don 't think EVB hasn't posted for a while because she's no longer a Misfits fan. It's just that she's too busy following Marilyn Manson all over the country ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:33:30 -0800 From: Richard Hinojos Subject: Danzig skull sighting To contribute to the old "where have you seen the misfits" game a while ago: On Tuesday night (jan 2). there was a story on KTTV news in LA about some vandals who descerated some graves at a Jewish cemetary in San Diego. They interviewed the mom: "This just isn't the time of year to do this." Graverobbing is a summer sport?!?! The reporter then said that the suspects claimed to practice white witchcraft. Besides toppling some headstones, they managed to steal a body part (no specifics). To make a short story long, a long shot of the suspects showed a painted Danzig skull on a leather jacket. Rob and I lifted our left hands and saluted the half-inflated demon lord. :) Related tale: In the town of Lennox, Calif. some guy challenged some neighborhood kids to break into a cemetary and bring him proof. One morning he found what appeared to be a human head. Goofing, he put it into his mouth and bit down, thinking it was a fake. "It tasted salty," he later said. The head came from a body that had been interred for about sixty years. Pleasant dreams, Ryq ------------------------------ From: GOATFIT@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:48:37 -0500 Subject: lyrics to "Attitude" Since we all know that even though Glenn is credited with writing all of the Misfits' material, he did not write all of it, it is probably true that in the early Misfits' days, Bobby wrote alot of the music, and possibly lyrics too.. Anyhow, I went into NYC yesterday, and picked up WAU on vinyl for 12 bucks, and also The Undead "Evening of Desire" 12" for 5 bucks....on the "Evening of desire" 12", the Undead cover "Attitude", and you can CLEARLY hear Bobby saying.. "...inside your FETAL brain there's probably a WHORE, if you don't shut your mouth, you're gonna FEEL THE FLOOR..." BTW I went into this record store Bleeker Bob's in Greenwich village, and they had an original pressing on Evilive, but the cover looked as though it had been put through a washing mashine or something, it was just as shitty as hell, and they were asking $40 for it, and I offered to pay $20 for it, and they laughed at me, and i walked out.... attn:stewart Gallacher, andy dempz, julian...hey you guys, this is Adam, i just have a new e-mail account- so all of you guys please e-mail me!!!! later love goat- e-mail GOATFIT@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:46:53 -0600 From: Catherine Ehlinger hello out there i did not get issue 132 although i have read it anyway.i am still waiting for someone to send me some lists for tapes and videos....by the way lets look at the glen issue for one quick second.people don't hound vince neil for leaving the crew.the misfits were a part of glens past and he wants to keep it that way.he is not a dick but its hard for someone to forget about something when people keep digging it up.anyway peace to both sidde i will remain neutral in the matter im a misfits fan so i guess that means that i am also a danzig fan.even though i don'tmuch care for his new stuff.later fellas. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:22:52 -0500 From: She Subject: NEWS NEWS NEWS Here is the usual Jerry Only update: THE TOUR -------- The Misfits will be touring Europe in March. Before this they will not be doing any shows. The Misfits will not be doing the ABC benefit show that some fiends were talking about earlier. They are very busy with preparations for the tour, the box set, the Fiend Club, and Chiller Theatre and will probably not have time for the benefit show. So ... don't believe anything until you've heard it here. The European tour will allow them to work out any bugs they might have and prepare them for a massive tour of the US in June. They intend to do the whole country, finishing with a special show in New York on Halloween, after which they will head into the studio to record a new album. The European tour: March 12 - Music Box Edinburgh, Scotland March 13 - Foundry Birmingham, England March 14 - Dorwich/Bristol Leicester, England March 15 - Rio Bradford, England March 16 - off March 17 - London Astoria London, England March 18 - off March 19 - Meckweg Amsterdam, Holland March 20 - TBC Herford, Germany March 21 - Rohre Stuttgart, Germany March 22 - TBC Emunchen, Germany March 23 - Capital Berlin, Germany March 24 - Fabrik Hamburg, Germany The information on these dates may be somewhat unclear do to the fact that we're in the US and don't really know what the hell we're talking about. It's the best info I have though, so I hope this helps. European fiends who are interested in helping out at some of these shows should email me their names and Jerry will try to put you on the guest list if you come early and help them set up. BOXED SET --------- The box contains 4 CD's with 104 tracks in all, including many, many previously unreleased versions. We will get to hear for the first time the Misfits version of "Spook City USA" and other great stuff. Apparently some of Glenn's master tapes were in bad shape, so songs like the original version of "Night OF The Living Dead" may sound a little different than they did on the original 7" singles. There will also be at least one unreleased track. Someone from Caroline told Mike Stax that the song was called "Between The Walls" but no such song was ever recorded. Jerry suspects that they might be referring to a song called "In The Doorways" which was recorded by the first lineup of the band on a tape that Glenn has. The first CD in the set is the Static Age album. The first 50,000 copies of the box set will include a special case for the Static Age CD that I described several months ago. The other 3 CDs will come in cardboard digipak cases. All boxes after the first 50,000 will use a digipak case for the Static Age CD also. After the box comes out, the Static Age album WILL be released separately. The box set sounds great according to Jerry. As usual, Glenn offered very little help. Jerry provided Caroline with over 240 unreleased Misfits photos from his Misfits scrapbook, so we should be seeing some cool pictures in the box set. The box set booklet will also contain lyrics to all the songs (as corrected by Jerry, not Glenn) and liner notes by Eerie, as we already knew. Jerry gives the whole package an A rating. The set, which comes in a special coffin-shaped box, will officially be released on Tuesday February 27th. To promote its release, The Misfits will be doing an in-store appearance at midnight on Monday the 26th at Generation Records in New York City. Generation Records is located near the corner of Thompson Street and Washington Square Park in Greenwich Village in New York City. Jerry expects the price of the box to be around $65-70. THE FIEND CLUB -------------- A 4 page introductory letter will be sent in the near future to people who were on the list in the spring of 1995. Since then Jerry has received several hundred additions that haven't gone into the database. The letter will consist of the following: 2 pages explaining the return of the bands and some of the legal issues they had to deal with 1 page order form 1 page petition for the Bela Lugosi US monster stamp The order form is already available on the Misfits world wide web page as well as in the latest Ugly Things issue (#14). Checks should be made to Cyclopean Music (t-shirts are $15 each). Jerry is attempting to make Fiend Club membership free by using T-shirt money to fund it. Once again, to join the Fiend Club, write a letter to Misfits Fiend Club PO Box 310 Vernon NJ 07462 with your name, address and phone number. After this mass mailing, there will be another mass mailing of Fiend Club member packages. The packages consist of the following: 11 flyers 2 Fiend Club stickers 2 Cyclopean Music circles 1 Find-A-Fiend postcard 2 Fiend Club membership cards These packages are currently being assembled. CHILLER THEATRE --------------- They have finished editing the first three "Chiller Theatre Presents..." movies. If these movies are not picked up by a TV station, the band hopes to released them as video tapes. Each consists of a brief interview by the band with a famous person from horror movie history, followed by the movie, and then the complete interview: Horror Hotel / Roger Corman (spelling?) Interview The Crawling Eye / Ben Chapman interview Hideous Sun Demon / Basil Gogos interview Each video will end with a special Misfits video for the unreleased Kryst The Conqueror song "Dr Phibes Rises Again". The band recently uncovered an instrumental version of this song from the Kryst The Conqueror sessions and recorded a vocal track with MIchale Graves singing. They then filmed a video for the song in their castle setup in Vernon NJ from 18 different angles. This is the video that will appear at the end of each Chiller Theatre video. NEW ALBUM --------- Collection II has apparently been selling pretty well. It has entered Billboard's Heat Seekers chart and remained there for a few weeks. Jerry hopes that the box and Collection II will keep fiends satisfied until they enter the studio between Halloween and Xmas '96 to record their new album. The band has been working on new material including a song recently written by Michale called "Black Light". They also plan to shorten and re-record Kryst The Conqueror songs - "Spellbound" "Night Raiders" and others. Jerry would like to drop 52 seconds from "Spellbound" and would appreciate suggestions as to which verse to drop. The Kryst The Conqueror album will be released in its complete form (13 songs) sometime in the next 10 years or so, but we will see some of the songs performed by The Misfits. So don't be surprised if you hear unfamiliar songs at Misfits shows... IRC CHANNEL ----------- We are attempting to create a permanent Misfits channel on IRC. At the moment, we have applied for a permanent spot on the Undernet. To get to the Misfits IRC channel, you must select us.undernet.org as your IRC server. The channel name is #misfits and the operator is known as |20Eyes| (Jerry Schulz). Please check it out and show your suppoert. mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:13:45 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Palczewski Subject: Misfits & MTV I can see why people don't want the Misfits on MTV and I can think of a buncha good reasons. First is with this new bullshit punk revival using Green Day, Offspring, and Rancid as the new punk wave the Misfits could easily be thrown right into that. First it would probably take alot away from the coolness of the band because they will have a horde of dipshit fans and they will probably distance themselves from fans. It'll happen. It happend to Metallica, Megadeth, and White Zombie after MTV exposure. I can see where the band would like to get popular, make some cash, retire happy but think about it. There are more then enough Fits fans to keep them financially happy and when they start touring and make themselves known they will pick up a great fan base. The flipside to this is maybe MTV will fear them. I mean if you think about it the Misfits arn't paticularly radio friendly and their whole image and attitude could scare MTV away. MTV is after that silly west coast punk scene witht he skaters and the baggy pants and bleached hair. Thats not the Misfits. The Misfits are old school New York Punk. If MTV fears them, they best they'll get is an occassional appearance on 120 Miniutes with a Sick Of It All video. ------------------------------ From: Bababooey1@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 22:31:46 -0500 Subject: Bobby Steele? Hi. I'm a big fan of the Misfits. A friend of mine recently got a bootleg tape of a Misfits concert from Christmas 1981 in Passaic, NJ. When they get to the song "Teenagers from Mars" they said that they changed the lyrics. They changed it to something about a guy who used to be in the band named Bobby Steele. Who is this guy, and what do the Misfits have against him? Thanks a lot --bababooey1@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:26:53 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost An interesting thing happened on the radio today (Friday) in New York. WXRK 92.3 K-ROCK, a classic rock station, changed it's format to new "cutting edge" music. K-Rock is the home of Howard Stern and used to carry the Greaseman They fired all the DJ's with the exception of Howard. So I'm driving to work listening to the news break on Howard's show, and finally the moment of truth, they let Howard Stern break in the new format. After his show he talks up the first tune, a tune of his choice. What does he pick? I figurered it would be some lame STP or Pearl Jam shit, but no! He plays "Sweet dreams..." as done by Marilyn Manson :) Fuckin' Right On Howard!!! I hope the station proves to be as great as it's first 4 minutes ! On another note...My daughter's page was linked in a page featured in Internet World Magazine, so I took the time to update both of my pages check them out....PLEASE.....http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ remember that UNIX is case sensitive so make sure you capitalize the C & G in CrimsonGhost C.G. Walters is sending me a copy of the "Omen" font. As soon as I get it I will post it on my page for downloading. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % "...they were a bunch of assholes If I could find the * * plug, I'd pull it and let the whole island sink..." % % Jerry Only - talking about Great Britain * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 09:38:48 -0600 (CST) From: gerry blaylock Subject: g there are some copies of the rosemary's babies 7" that were never colored in and contained all the inserts. they were kept by eerie von. don't know how many yet, but it was only a very few. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:53:46 -0500 From: She Subject: Black Market interview Just thought everyone should see what Glenn had to say about the Misfits in this interview from 1985: Black Market 1985 ----------------- BM: When did the Misfits end and Samhain begin, cause a lot of bands will change members but keep the same name, why didn't you? Glenn: Beacuse I wanted it to be its own thing. We could've of called this the Misfits. I wrote all the songs, I did all the bullshit for the band. I could've called this the Misfits. Do you know what I'm saying? It's not like with Black Flag and even the Circle Jerks. I mean a lot of people think they are, but they're not. The new Black Flag especially, that's not Black Flag, you know Chuck's not in the band. Eerie: Chuck was a big deal. Glenn: And I think Jerry was kinda important in the Misfits, whether he wrote songs or not. Doyle and Robo were interchangable, but as long as it was me and Jerry it was kinda the Misfits. mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 18:48:28 EST From: G Subject: Two things 1. I think we all reserve the right to criticize Danzig as much as we want. I feel free to say what I like and don't like, and if it seems like everyone is trashing him, maybe that should tell him something. If someone doesn't feel comfortable with that, I don't understand why. I encourage everyone to freely speak their own opinions on the man, as well as anything else. 2. There was a reference about three bibles ago about calling someone a homosexual in a negative way. While not being one myself, I was wondering if we could avoid this in the future, as a friend of mine asked me why a seemingly bunch of accepting people would act that way. If anyone has any responses, and if I'm being an idiot about this, please respond in private e-mail. Thanks. G (Galen Myers)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave."-Les "Did you ever look at a dollar bill man, there's some spooky stuff going on on a dollar bill man. I mean and it's green too."-Slater "Havin a good time, livin the moon time."-Widespread Panic "You're crystal ball ain't so crystal clear, so while you sit back and wonder why I got this fucking thorn in my side."-Beasties "I don't mean to shatter your ego, but this is not the first time I've had a gun pointed at me."-Jules ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~It's just a signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 20:07:36 -0500 From: She Subject: Main Street Records Main Street Records in Northampton, MA is selling Collection II posters for $4. They do mail order. If you'd like to order a poster, contact: Main Street Records 213 Main St Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 586-5726 mark ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 23:11:22 -0500 Subject: Jerry poster Hey, All right, I've got an extra Jerry Only poster, and I'll sell it to anyone for 3 bucks...which is actually not a sale, as that's what the postage will cost. The only catch is that it's folded, not rolled, but it's really not that bad. If anyone's interested drop me an e-mail. Chris ------------------------------ From: wallace836@vegas.email.net Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:10:17 PST Subject: Misfits Bible, #132 Anyone have any info on the DANZIG tour film that was done during "How the Gods Kill"? Glenn mentioned it on headbangers ball a fdw years back, and told me that it was still being edited (that was back in May), and that American recordings was delaying its release. I think its kind of strange that we haven't seen any real video releases (excluding the How the Gods Kill boxed set) since "Lucifuge". "My ears will melt and then My Eyes" Wallace836 ------------------------------ From: creepshow588@newyork.email.net Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 19:36:25 EST Subject: Misfits Bible, #125 Samhain/Danzig lettering If anyone's interested in seeing the source for the Samhain/Danzig lettering, I remember seeing the poster for the movie "Giant Gila Monster" on a Mystery Science Theatre page somewhere on the Internet. This page had photos of all of the films that have been done on the show, and, yes, Giant Gila Monster's lettering is the same. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 19:50:09 -0500 (EST) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: skulls hey- Recently, a friend of mine saw Evan Dando (the guy from the Lemonheads) in a solo acoustic show... apparently he played a sad acoustic version of skulls, then apathetically put his fist in the air and said "Misfits... Lodi, New Jersey... Great band..." I'm not a real big Lemonheads fan, but I would have liked to have seen it. -aon-1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 18:02:55 -0500 From: EVB Subject: Boxed Set Release date Just got a call from Bobby Steele with some info on the release of the boxed set - he said that it's setto come out on Feb 26th and that a record store in NYC called "Generation Records" will be hosting a signing with more Misfits than have prolly ever been in one place before! The new line up will be there to sign as well former members Mr. Jim, Franche Coma and Bobby Steele. The stores addy & phone # are: Generation Records 210 Thompson Street New York, NY (212) 254-1100 Also Bobby's new side project, Times Square, will be playing in NYC at "The Spiral" on January 27th. - EVB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 96 22:23:34 -0800 From: Mark Nance Subject: The Ninjas... Hello, fiends, hope you all had a lovely holiday...I know the boys in the Ninjas and I had a good one...good except one thing-after a lousy show on Saturday, December 16, the Ninjas called in quits. Actually drummer Quinn Dawson called it quits, the other boys are still cool with the band, but since they lack a drummer, they have all dedcided to put a little more effort into their side-projects until Quinn decides whether or not to return (he's pretty peeved with the Ninjas and says that the music they play is "stupid"...vocalist Andy Moore agrees to an extent, he says if they do get back together, he'll work on re-writing a few of the songs.) The tapes are still gonna be released, though, according to Corey, guitarist. They still need to do a DAT, Quinn has the time booked in his dad's name, so they don't know if they are gonna get to use it or not...depends on whether Quinn wants to be a dick or not. Anyway, that's how things are going, I'm trying to catch up on missed bibles, so I'll see you all later. Mark, loving his new Mohawk/Devilock ------------------------------ From: "Beaulac, Jody" Subject: Lyrics Date: Tue, 09 Jan 96 09:50:00 PST Well, this is the first time in several months that I've written in to the Bible. Is it just me or has every other Bible veteran become tired of all the crap that goes around in it today? I just scanned #132, I think it was and have a comment about lyrics. I've been just waiting for this to come up again (like it has repeatedly for the past 10 months), it's on a cycle, or something. Anyway, the last time I talked with Jerry (around Sep. - Oct.) I got in an interesting conversation with him about the lyrics. Sure Glenn wrote nearly all of the older stuff, but when it came to a few lines here and there in songs like Violent World and all of the Earth A.D. / Wolfsblood / Die, Die My Darling tracks, well, then that's where the argument lies. During the Earth A.D. sessions, Glenn would actually make up lyrics as he went along, most of the time just mumbling in incoherent sounds as he does so well. Doyle, Jerry, and the gang would simply just write down what they thought he was saying (often times not anything like what he was really saying) and it would stick. This explains why a lot of the Earth A.D. lines don't make very much sense. I certainly wouldn't say Glenn wrote 90-95% of these songs. But I wouldn't say Jerry or Doyle wrote them either. During these sessions, they finally figured out to be a real band and write stuff together. Jody Beaulac jbeaulac@sybase.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 22:55:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steev L." Subject: the box set Just when I find out that Hypocrisy, Amorphis, Sepultura, and many other bands that I like are releasing new albums within the next 2-3 months, I now find out the release date of the Misfits box set. I am very glad to hear that they're going to tour the US this summer too. All I can say is that it's gonna be one helluva year. Later, Steev ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Stuff for sale SA Poster Winners gogo's Danzig skull pendant Feline Nursery / Spinal Remains Mark Death another hallucination Re: Misfits Bible, #133 Peter Moeller Re: Misfits Bible, #128 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:51:10 -0600 From: Catherine Ehlinger Subject: travel listen up kiddies!!i live in a hick state and would like to attend the box set signing.if anyone would like to go,perhaps meet me somewhere allong the way i would like that.i think that i am the only fan around.i think waiting in line would suck by myself.i also believe that n.y.c. city alone would suck. for all you people that want to collect flyers.don't worry about originals and paying high prices.most flyers for shows were just made at a printers shop,so if anyone offers you one give em ten cents for the xerox machine.see ya...remember email me if you want to caravan to the box set signing......jaime ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 01:56:24 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Qwylthulg I'll I've got to say is that QWYLTHULG rules! Long Live Qwylthulg! :) The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #133 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 02:23:34 -0500 (EST) > From: "J. Jorden" > Subject: Flipside Video > > Does anyone know if there's a possibility of this being released > legitimately? This is a really great video, at least the best quality one > as far as i can tell of the old misfits. i'd figure considering the legal > problems should be resolved, it shouldn't be a problem... and FS is > rereleasing that stuff again too... Though glenn might not have signed a > release. heh. I'm actually not even sure if it was REALLY a Flipside video. I know it's advertised as being one, but I have never heard anything to actually suggest it. > From: Eric Gulbrandsen > > I've been wondering for some time where are the other past members of the > Misfits such as Mr.Jim, Robo, Franche Coma, etc... What are they doing now > and where are they at??? Also I have just gotten ahold of a Black Flag Mr. Jim lives in Lodi NJ and works at a video store. Franche Coma lives in Lodi and still plays with bands from time to time. He has 4 children. Roba lives in Vernon NJ near Jerry and Doyle and worked at Proedge with them for many years. Joey lived in NY until a few years ago when he apparently moved to Florida with his wife. Arthur supposedly still lives in NY and is in the construction business. He also does TV commercials from time to time. Bobby Steele lives in NY and still does The Undead and his new band, Times Square. Manny might be living in Pennsylvania. He showed up at a Danzig show there in August of 1990. Glenn Danzig does comic books and Danzig. > > From: GOATFIT@aol.com > > Since we all know that even though Glenn is credited with writing all of the > Misfits' material, he did not write all of it, it is probably true that in > the early Misfits' days, Bobby wrote alot of the music, and possibly lyrics > too.. Nope. Bobby did not write a thing with the Misfits. Not only will the guys in the band tell you this, but Bobby will tell you it too. He wrote no music, and no lyrics. He did write his own songs but they were turned down by The Misfits and later turned up on Undead records. Bobby's interpretations of lyrics are okay, but as usual only Glenn really knows. > > From: Bababooey1@aol.com > > Hi. I'm a big fan of the Misfits. A friend of mine recently got a bootleg > tape of a Misfits concert from Christmas 1981 in Passaic, NJ. When they get > to the song "Teenagers from Mars" they said that they changed the lyrics. > They changed it to something about a guy who used to be in the band named > Bobby Steele. Who is this guy, and what do the Misfits have against him? Bobby was the 2nd guitarist, after Franche' Coma and before Doyle. He was in the band for almost 2 years - November '78 - October '80. After being kicked out of the band, they had an incident with him during the 12/17/81 show (the night most of Evilive was recorded). The Misfits were announced as the surprise headlining band for the evening. The Undead (Bobby's band) had already had a show booked for that night. During the Undead set, some of the guys from the Misfits were throwing things at Bobby while he was onstage. When the Misfits took the stage, Bobby threw stuff at them, thinking they were all just joking around. Apparently they took it seriously. That's him glenn yells at in '20 Eyes' - 'one more time you asshole, and you die....'. Anyway, Bobby is a really nice guy, and just because the Misfits don't like him doesn't mean it's okay to badmouth him. Okay everybody? I've gotten a lot of email about Bobby Steele and it's very obvious that the people who email me have never actually met him. In other news, I'd like to welcome Ben White back to the Misfits Bible. Ben was one of the original 5-10 subscribers and recently returned from the land of no-email. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 03:37:13 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: epic arguments To CG: hmmm I'm not exactly sure where you're coming from regarding my criticism of the Misfits lyrics, but maybe I didn't read your post closely enough. Anyway, maybe childish is not the appropriate word, but I think at least the subject matter in Samhain and Danzig songs is a little more...ah...advanced than in the Misfits. This is pretty well what I meant in the first place; sorry if I made it unclear. I think the Misfits lyrics were great; very clever, very funny...but not something I would want to write at age 40 (not that I ever could at any age anyway). And I don't think you should either respect or disrespect me, as you've never met me...respect should not be given away too easily, or it means nothing. But I'm just a 19 year-old little bastard, so who am I to give you advice... Mike Mollura: I'm aware of most of the stuff you said, but I think the Beyond Evil stuff sounds *much* worse than the stuff that made EAD, and I'm not just talking about the quality of the bootleg. And as far as Static Age demos versus Legacy of Brutality...hey I want SA released as much as anybody, but that doesn't mean I don't like LOB. How many people bought LOB before they saw this page and thought "this ain't the fucking Misfits" ? Probably none. Now that evryone knows it's mostly Glenn, it's becoming fashionable to trash it. Sickening. And to all of you out there: (if you even care): I'm sick to fucking death of talking about who wrote what in the Misfits, who's the "best" Misfit, etc etc, so I will respectfully withdraw from the long-standing argument as of now. If you think I'm am backing off because I know I've lost...well...think what you want. You guys can fight amongst yourselves. I've got homework to do. But before I go silent... Some of you guys have it in for Glenn. Fucking drop it already. None of the stuff we all love on this page/Bible would exist if he wasn't around, and perhaps not if he was any different than the way he is. Besides, as I said long ago, you don't know him, so your comments mean *shit all* anyway. So go ahead, write about how much you hate him or why he's a jerk; that's your right. But rest assured he doesn't give a shit, and if he did he'd be a fucking mindless loser. BTW, Osito666: I like what you said last issue (#133). -Brett "All Songs Written By Glenn Danzig" (the above is from the sleeve to "Danzig" so don't bitch at me...of course it's also on WAU and EAD...ha ha ha ha) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:44:22 -0500 (EST) From: "C.G. Walters" Subject: Danzig Autographs on Misfits Stuff It's true Glenn signed my Plan 9 Earth AD album as well as my Lucifuge album. He was really cool, I took a picture of him (smiling showing all teeth). I also own autographed Verotik products, a Samhain Unholy Passion album that he and Eerie auotgraphed and an autographed photo. I have met Glenn twice and each time he took the time to sign autographs for a lineup of people. The second time I met him the lineup was about 70 people long. He talked for a few minutes, answering questions that fans had and autographed albums (including Misfits ones as I have experienced). Everyone has a bad day. Perhaps all of you don't, but I do. Quit slagging Glenn on isolated incidents and cut him some slack. -Craig (Brett is my witness) ------------------------------ From: wallace836@vegas.email.net Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 08:38:51 PST Subject: Misfits Tattoo I saw that the TV show that had the racist with the Misfits tattoo as well (I don't think the show is on anymore, what ever it was). The tattoo was the back cover of Legacy of Brutality, and I was pretty embarassed to share that retards taste in music. it was a dark day for Misfits fans everywhere. BTW I used to collect all sorts of Misfits stuff, and used to have a Plan 9 single featuring Rat Fink, Spook City USA, and ? It had a purple cover, with a cartoon of a woman being strapped to a spanking machine on the front (I think). I've yet to see mention of this anywhere. Also, I used to have the Cough/Cool single, but sold it (along with most of my Misfits records) for Christmas money. What is the going-rate for this single? I always assumed it was a bootleg. Also, when I was at a Danzig signing earlier this year I stood behind the artist Elf (who is a prominent rock artist in Charlotte, NC) who brought a great painting of Glenn for him to see. Glenn was flattered (as flattered as he gets, anyway) and recommended that Elf insure his work. More notably, though, was the man in front of me...the singer for Antiseen (again, I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure it was him). He had brought a ton of old Misfits/Samhain records to be signed...many of which I've never even heard of. Glenn signed them all...even laughed once, and held up a record saying "Where did you get this?" I think it was a Samhain fiend-club release; it was not one of the major releases, anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 12:51:49 -0600 From: Eric Gulbrandsen Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #133 In response to: > >From: Bile666@aol.com >Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:42:30 -0500 >Subject: Spring Chiller Theatre Show ... >- I don 't think EVB hasn't posted for a while because she's no longer a >Misfits fan. It's just that she's too busy following Marilyn Manson all over >the country ... > All I've got to say about this is fuck you jerkoff. Just because you like other bands besides the Misfits doesn't make you not a fan. I happen to listen to M.M. along with many other bands but the Misfits are still by far my favorites. I have been to other concerts and other places to see other bands but that still doesn't change the fact that I am a huge Misfits fan. It's assholes like you that come onto this page not to show that you are a fan or want to have an intelligent thing to say but come just to cause trouble because you have a low self opinion and need to boost yourselves up by cutting down other people for things that they like. As for this Danzig bashing who fucking cares if you don't like him or his attitude, I've met him and I think that he was a pretty cool person, he stood outside in 13 degree weather for over an hour to talk to the diehards that waited for him after the show-I'd say that's pretty cool to me. If all you have to do is rip on somebody for what music they like go on one of those stupid chatlines that your America Online has and go nuts but leave all of the people who are here for entertainment and info alone because your kind is like a fucking disease that needs to be stopped. Sorry about this outburst but some people need to get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gulliver %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% "Beware of the Dark side...or engulf you it will..." -Yoda egulbrandsen@foxvalley.tec.wi.us %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Movies Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 13:08:53 -0500 (EST) Lately I have been on a conquest to view as many of the old horror flics that inspired misfits songs as I can. It is fucking impossible! The video stores around here suck big time and only have fairly recent films. I am aware that jerry and doyle are planning on releasing those chiller theater videos but who honestly knows when the hell we will be able to get a hold of them? Can any of you fellow fiends help me out on this? If anybody has any helpful info. to give me please tell me about it here on the bible or mail me at achrist@expert.purdue.edu If you have any of the movies already I am willing to pay you for copies. On another note, I have been trying to order the boxed set ahead of time so thaT I will be able to get it on the realease date. If I don't special order it there is no way that the stores around hear would carry it because most people around here listen to fucking gay music like silverchair, boys to men or country shit. But anyway, none of the record stores even have the release date yet and some don't even believe me that such a set will be coming out. Have any of you had similar problems? Adam Seven ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 14:39:48 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Lay it to rest! Okay, first off, I'd like to agree with the Crimson one and go so far as to say that the "interview" with Jerry that appeared here recently has got to be a hoax. I simply don't think that Jerry is capable in answering questions in that five-word-maximum fashion. The man will talk your ear off just for asking him the time. NOW, I'd like to say this in hopes of eliminating all of the back and forth arguments over who wrote what. Since I'm in a band myself, I think I can give you a better picture of what probably happened with the Misfits and their songwriting. Like Glenn, I too receive all of the credit in the liner notes when it comes to "All songs written by_______." Since liner notes first appeared, those four words have lead to the huge misconception that the name following them is responsible for EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE SONG. That's just simply not the case when we're talking about rock bands. In my personal experience (and as we saw somewhat in the Misfits practice dialog), the "songwriter" (ie Glenn, me) will sit down away from the rest of the band and compose some musical form that will later be brought in front of the rest of the band. This comes usually in the form of guitar riffs and figures and patterns. Sometimes it also involves specific drumming patterns and basslines, lyrics etc., but usually we're talking about the guitar as the building block. Anyway, eventually this "song" is performed in front of the rest of the band and once it's been run through a couple of times, opinions and suggestions start flying around the room. Yes, occasionally you run into a song where the original composition/version is viewed as unchangeable and unimprovable. But MOST of the time, the bass player will say something like, "I think you should cut that...," "I've got a puchier bassline than that..." or the drummer will say, "Slow it down on the chorus..." blah blah blah. YOU GET THE POINT!!! Being in a band where there is only one credited songwriter usually results in the other musicians acting as peers and critics. They say things and suggest things that just may cause the songwriter to make a few changes here and there, if not overhaul the whole thing and redo it. The point is that yes, Glenn wrote the foundations of many (if not all) of the Misfits songs. Some of them might have even turned out unchanged from the time he initially wrote them. BUT, without a doubt, Jerry, Doyle, Franche, Bobby, Robo, etc. were actively involved with SHAPING the final product. It's the whole sum-of-its-parts analogy. And to say that Glenn was too headstrong to listen to suggestions is a totally misguided statement. If Glenn didn't even take into consideration SOME of the ideas and suggestions from his bandmates, then each one would have walked away after only a few rehearsals and practices. Remember, Jerry was in that thing since day one and never left! Do you honestly think he'd want to be in a band where his opinions were not respected and taken into consideration for THAT LONG? NO WAY!! And to address the question, "Then why aren't J&D also listed under the 'All Songs Written By___' heading?," Well, at the time, Glenn was their friend. They didn't forsee the huge legal battles they'd fight in the future over these songs. They figured that since Glenn came up with the initial ideas, he should probably get the credit for it. They didn't really care - to them it wasn't a big deal, J&D weren't concerned necessarily with the glory and legalities behind "All Songs Written By..." They just knew in their hearts that the songs have pieces of them intertwined in them and they were perfectly happy just knowing that and to be playing with each other. Who would ever suspect that their best friend would one day try to take all of the credit for something that they gave time, energy, and creativity to?? Glenn just chose to (either directly or indirectly -we don't know) betray that trust and feed his bandmates a huge shit sandwich. My bandmates have the trust in me that I won't do the same as Glenn because they are my friends. And almost 99% of all other "Single songwriter" bands have that element in them as well - TRUST. Glenn and the Misfits is the exception, not the rule when it comes to anal retentiveness over "All songs written by..." So can we get over it now? If there are still any qustions, just wait until Jerry and Doyle come to your town and show you up close that they aren't just a couple of hulking slaves who can't think for themselves. Thanks for reading this - Brent ------------------------------ From: Misfitkev@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:09:57 -0500 Subject: Hey fellow fiends!!! #misfits I havent written in a while but I thought I should tell you guys some cool stuff. Well, I've been talking on the Misfits chat line and it's AWESOME!!!!!! It's so cool to actually talk to the other fiends in real time. I usually chat on the weekends from 1:00am untill whenever. ANOTHER cool part is that if you have mIRC, you can trade .wav files or any other files you want. This means you can trade some MiSfiTs MUSIC!!!! :-) and pictures over the internet!!!!!!!!!!! If you need a copy of mIRC, just look for it with your web browser in webcrawler or any other of the searchers. One last COOL thing. If you have a particular .wav file and so does another person. You can remotely play the .wav file so that you both can hear it at the same time!!!!! this means that everyone can enjoy a sound sample at the same time!!! I am really excited about this chat thing and I hope to see some more of you fiends there this weekend. See ya!!!! MiSfiTKev :-) -----be there or be square!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 12:46:45 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: She sells eggshells Heya fiends, here's a question that's been burning a hole in my mind for a while... is the "She" that's on LOB from the Mercury sessions or a later recording? I finally got a copy of the "Live! 79" tracks and man oh man they were way off. The guitar is really screwed up. If the rest of the live tapes from the 70's are that bad I can see why they've never been released. I have never before heard the Misfits sound so much like a junky high school garage band. It's just too bad there's no other available live recording of Children in Heat. Hey, what ever happened to the good old days when you could trash famous people on the internet and you'd never even have to think _twice_ about their ever reading it?? I dunno about the rest of y'all but these eggshells are giving me blisters between my toes. Information superhighway my ass! Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:53:33 -0500 From: vinylink@mtolympus.ari.net (Vinyl Ink Records) Subject: MISFITS BOX info Vinyl Ink Records is now taking pre-orders for the MISFITS "Box Set" CD Streed Date: February 27th List Price: $69.98 This limited release comes in a very special coffin-shaped box with a faux-velour lined interior. The packaging was created by Grammy Award winning designers and is guarenteed to stand out from any box-set packaging previously released. HIGHLIGHTS: * Every song completely re-mastered using the latest state-of-the-art technology * 104 classic MISFITS tracks on 4 extended length CD's * Over 35 rare or perviously unreleased versions * A "Sessions" disc featuring rare and never-before-available alternate versions and out-takes including the original "Cough/Cool" single, the highly-sought-after MSP sessions, a full-on band version of "Spook City U.S.A." and lots more * A 28 page full-color book featuring: -Complete lyrics to all of the songs -liner notes by EERIE VON -a complete discography of all of the rare vinyl -never-before-published photo's -rare artwork & memorabilia * A special edition fired enamel "Fiends Club" badge available only in this box * As an added bonus, a deluxe, embossed, slide-top case of the legendary never-before-released MISFITS debut album "Static Age" will be included ONLY int the first pressing of the box. All subsequent pressings will have a standard jewel box version of the album Vinyl Ink's pre-order price is $60 postage paid within the United States. | Vinyl Ink Records | vinylink@ari.net | http://www2.ari.net/vinylink | 955 Bonifant St Silver Spring MD 20910 USA | Phone (301) 588-4695 | Fax (301) 495-3105 | | On line catalog via auto-responder netalog@ari.net | Update only via auto-responder current@ari.net | | Ask about our free update subscription service ------------------------------ From: Caroline Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:19:59 -0500 Subject: Caroline and the Misfits UPDATE FROM CAROLINE RECORDS (1/10/96): 1. In-store Signing. There WILL be an in-store signing (not a live performance) @ Generation Records, 210 Thompson St., Greenwich Village, New York, NY on Monday, February 26th from Midnight to 2 a.m.(so it's technically Feb. 27th [which is the street date of the box-set). Those who are scheduled to attend the signing are: Jerry Only, Doyle, Franche Coma, Mr. Jim and Bobby Steele. Anybody who wants to travel in is invited to wear Misfits jackets, shirts, pins, etc... It should be a lot of fun for all. 2. The coffin-shaped box-set. The box-set contains: a. 4 CD's (including "Evilive", "Earth A.D.", a 30 track sessions disc [including the band's version of "Spook City U.S.A.", the "Cough/Cool"/"She" single, and tons more], along with the limited packaging of "Static Age". "Static Age" is its own disc with the other 3 being packaged in black slimline boxes (not digi-packs). All 104 tracks have been totally re-mastered. b. A 28 page booklet containing: Liner notes by Eerie Von, A complete discography, lyrics, rare photos, art and memorabilia. c. A special enamel badge of the classic "Fiend Club" logo. 3. The box-set contest. Here are 10 Quiz questions for Misfits Bible page readers to try and answer. All answers must be sent to Caroline Records @ 114 West 26th Street, 11th Floor, New York, NY, 10001 c/o Misfits Box-Set Contest. Please include your address for prize mailing purposes. First Prize (1): Signed Jerry and Doyle Misfits shirts (1 ea.), A copy of the rarest "Collection II" colored vinyl and a special box-set sampler (promo only). Second Prize (10): A Misfit T-Shirt. All entries must be post-dated by February 27, 1996 to be counted in the contest. All top-scoring entries, in case of a tie, will be put in a hat and the winners will be drawn by pot luck. Here we go... 1. What was the original title of the song "Spinal Remains"? 2. The Lemonheads did an acoustic cover of what Misfits track? 3. Vampira starred in what classic Ed Wood film? 4. Who was the Misfits only left-handed drummer? 5. What was the significance of the "Who Killed Marilyn" single's release date? 6. How many times was "American Nightmare" performed live? 7. In 1977-78 the Misfits played Tuesday nights at a club in Teaneck, NJ. What club was it? 8. Glenn and Jerry spent a night in jail after destroying a club owner's room at what hotel? 9. The Misfits touring van, eventually purchased by Black Flag, had what painted on the side? 10. What two songs by Iggy Pop/Iggy Pop and the Stooges did the Misfits cover? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 08:38:27 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Time --->Army of Nostradamus said: >Recently, a friend of mine saw Evan Dando (the guy from the Lemonheads) >in a solo acoustic show... apparently he played a sad acoustic version >of skulls, then apathetically put his fist in the air and said >"Misfits... Lodi, New Jersey... Great band..." I'm not a real big >Lemonheads fan, but I would have liked to have seen it. russel, are you sure "apathetically" is the word you want to use? [Gr - a, without + pathos, emotion] or lack of emotion, listlessness; indifference. I can see where if he said it in a quiet monotone it_could_be apathetic, but the mere act of putting his fist in the air shows some sort of emotion. I haven't heard it so I can't say, but from the context "somberly" sounds more accurate to me. Don't be insulted by the english lesson I just get hung up on details! btw I still haven't been able to find the Lemonheads EP with "Skulls" on it, can anyone help me out with a tape? --->B.M. Fama >Glenn Danzig DOES sign Misfits merchandise, provided it is legally-issued >(okay, except Collection II).....-clip- >....I suspect in most of these cases it's bootlegs he won't >touch, but I guess it is possible that on some days he doesn't even want >to touch ANY Misfits stuff, depending on his mood or whatever. I have no problem with him not signing boots, I wouldn't sign them either if I were him. I think he's just pissed because now he has to split the money for collection II. I'll bet anything that he'll cop an attitude about the boxed set also, mark my words. notice that last week mark said the boxed set will include photos (from jerry) & lyrics (as corrected by Jerry, not Glenn). Glenn's big complaint about C2, besides the art, was the fact that "They" printed the wrong lyrics. Well gee he's known about the boxed set for some time he's had every opportunity to correct the lyrics. I wonder what his excuse will be this time. You know I wouldn't even complain if he came right out and said, "I won't sign that because I was forced to share the money from it." --->Osito666@aol.com said: >Glenn is a performer. A good one. But it's not fair to say he makes his >living off of his fans. He makes his living off of his music. He's not >asking for money for nothing. If he quit making records and asked us all to >support him, then he'd be making his living off of his fans. Without deliberately flaming you I'll try to respond to this. You should consider being a politician or a spin doctor at any rate. You're saying the same thing I said, you just don't realize it. I say he makes his living off the fans, you say he makes his living off the music. Since it would be awfully hard to eat a chord progression or the best lyrics in the world, I find what you're attempting to say to be poppycock. >You seem to think that buying one of his records means you've bought a piece >of him and he should treat you with more respect than he would anyone else. >I'm sure he's appreciative of people taking interest in his music but how >far do you want to take it. Should he start asking your advice about what >color to paint his kitchen? Glenn makes a record, you buy it, end of >transaction. I don't believe that his fans should drive his musical direction, he should do what he wants. Although, as long as someone is willing to buy it they should recieve a certain amount of respect. Glenn has what he has today because of the fans' willingness to buy his music. I'll ignore the comment about his kitchen because it's worthless drivel. >Of course Leslie West, Buster Poindexter, Jerry Only and Doyle are more than >willing to talk about the past. It's their glory days. The good old days. I'll give you Leslie maybe, but the NY Dolls were nothing compared to David's(Buster's) solo career. The Animals medley went like top 5 and Funky but chic was also a big hit, I was talking to David about the dolls in particular. Jerry & Doyle are still an untested unit I'll reserve judgement on that until it's appropriate. >I was with Joe McGoldrick when Danzig refused to sign his copy of Collection >II. What Joe didn't tell you was that Glenn did sign my copies of the first >collection, Legacy Of Brutality, Earth AD Gold, Initium, >November-Coming-Fire, Final Descent and the first Danzig album. Glenn's >bodyguard said, "That's enough stuff." Glenn ignored him and said, "Keep Notice that every record you had signed was a Glenn project, meaning he made 100% of the money from them. >If he isn't happy with Collection II then I wouldn't want him to sign it. >He shouldn't have to sign something he has mixed feelings for. >He should,however, collect whatever royalties he is due. He earned them. Why wouldn't he be happy with it? He did it. Musically the album is all Glenn overdubs and all. We *hear* the album *exactly* how he wanted it to be heard. If he refuses to recognize it because he was forced to collaborate with past bandmates on the Fucking insert -- FUCK HIM, it's a really childish stance to take on his part. His mixed feelings come from parting with a significant amount of the royalties, sour grapes if you will. Glenn's a fuckin' baby when he can't get his own way, he always has been and always will be, then again I'd be pretty pissed off too if I had to part with the kind of cash that he did. But you know what this thread ain't worth shit anymore, with the exception of a few tunes Collection II sucks, I'm sorry I bought it and put money in his pocket, I should have just mailed Jerry a buck or two. - Let the flames consume me Actually I will continue to buy everything he does no matter how much of a jerk_I_perceive him to be. --->Wallace836 "My ears will melt and then My Eyes" BOC - Cities on Flame???? ---> BILE666. >- I don 't think EVB hasn't posted for a while because she's no longer a >Misfits fan. It's just that she's too busy following Marilyn Manson all over >the country ... Good for her!! anyone into MM should check out my page it contains a link to a great MM site "The official homepage of Fuck for Marilyn Manson" %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % You cannot sedate, all the things you hate * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:55:07 -0500 From: She Subject: IRC Hey everyone, remember to check out the IRC #misfits channel on the Undernet server. Fiends can actually talk to each other online. It's pretty amazing, all the things you can do. It has no officially been approved by the Undernet. Also check out the IRC #misfits page at Misfits Central for more info. mark ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:29:06 -0500 Subject: lyrics i have to disagree with crimson ghost on the matter of lyrics. although zappa's lyrics weren't very serious that's exacly how he made his point, sarcasm. the misfits lyrics (most of them anyway,we are 138 seems serious) were just plain silly. there's no real sarcasm or anything like that, just horror movie stuff, which is cool and entertaining much like the movies they were named after or about. zappa's music was absolutly much more technicaly minded though. he makes some of glenn's stuff look primative, but simplicity is often the key to a great song. this isn't a flame (obviously). i just think glenn's lyrics have "grown up". i think he's much more serious about them now. it doesn't matter if someone else thinks the things he writes about now are cheesy, he believes in them which makes them more serious than being possesed by a martian, which, i'm quite sure is something that never happened to him. i think lyrics have alot to do with a song, unless you're a musician who can fully appreaciate what goes into the music too. thanks to everybody who gave info on the box set. i can't wait. also i'm taking tapes for the tribute so if you're supposed to be on it e-mail me ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE STUFF READY TO SEND! well, that's all i'm going to ramble on about for now. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach "...i woke up this morning, with a peice of past caught in my throat, then i choked..." "for want of" rites of spring ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 96 12:17:35 MST From: "Cadet Kyle J. Pumroy, x4748" Subject: mtv and misfits Hi, haven't posted in a long time, but I thought I'd bring something up. Regardless of the feeling some have that the Misfits should stay "true" and stay away from MTV, doesn't anyone else wonder why MTV has payed to attention to the reformation of the Misfits. if they have made some mention of them, I never heard about it. The reason I'm suprised is because it seems they make some kind of mentions of stuff like that, especially when you consider that both Metallica and Guns n' roses have covered the band that is now reforming. hell, I remember when the Damned where going on their final tour and mtv had a segment on that on week in rock, and I seem to think the misfits are bigger than the Damned, at least now. Is it just because the jerry and doyle have made no effort to try and get publicity, thus MTV just doesn't know about it? you'd think they'd try and get on somehow just for more publicity, I think it's rediculous to think a band wouldn't want publicity and would rather maintain a small fan base. I mean, who thinks "let's play music most people won't like so we don't have to put up with lots of fans." Anyway, I just think this reformation deserves a LOT more press than it's gotten, since the only place I've ever heard about it is the bible. just wondering what everybody else thought, especially mark. thanx kyle ------------------------------ Subject: Fiend Club? From: brian trainor Date: Thu, 11 Jan 96 14:56:21 EST ok, i'm a little hazy on this one... are there going to be any mailings for those of us who applied to the Fiend club after Spring? like around November? or can we only get in if we send in the t-shirt money? just wondering. thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 22:16:14 -0500 From: She Subject: Stuff for sale Hello fiends. I no longer desire the following items. I would like to sell these to anyone who is interested: Misfits: Legacy Of Brutality LP (black vinyl first pressing from '85) Danzig: Danzig III Promo poster (group shot of band against dark background) Metalllica: lots of stuff... I know this isn't the right place to post this, but I do have a good bit of Metallica stuff I don't want. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 19:54:16 -0500 From: She Subject: SA Poster Winners The winners of my 4 question contest are the following: Brent Eyestone (with a perfect score) Keith Knoss Jon Holford Ben White mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 15:16:27 -0500 From: Maureen Harrington Subject: gogo's Recently i heard an very strange rumour from one of my friends. Apparently before the Misfits were named the Misfits they were called the Gogo's.I then laughed at him and told him they were all girls but he insisted his story was true.Can anyone resolve this for us. thanks alot! Joda H. ------------------------------ From: CONLON@apsicc.aps.edu Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 18:36:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: Danzig skull pendant I am looking for a danzig skull pendant (as seen on the cover of lucifuge, and also the dagger seen in how the gods kill (video). I will pay alot of money or possibly trade some misfits stuff for them. Thanks alot, -Zac ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 11:21:13 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hatcher Subject: Feline Nursery / Spinal Remains Hi. This is my first time posting to the Bible, but I've been receiving it for the last few weeks. I have a question for the experts. I know that the original of Feline Nursery doesn't have any vocal tracks. I read (I think it was at Misfits Central) that this was because the microphone was accidentally unplugged before they recorded it, which means that there are lyrics to Feline Nursery (duh). Are these different from Spinal Remains? I'm going to assume that they are since it is called something completely different. If so, does anyone know what the Feline Nursery lyrics were? Thanks, Chris Hatcher ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:59:00 -0500 Subject: Mark Death CG, I have no idea if it's legit or not. I agree that it doesn't seem to be right with all the one word answers....maybe Jerry was in a hurry. Other than that, I have no other info about it. It didn't appear to come from a 'zine or anything. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 08:34:15 -0800 From: Richard Hinojos Subject: another hallucination I went to see the new Pauly Shore/Stephen Baldwin movie, Bio-Dome. Baldwin's character is named Doyle, and Patricia (Patty) Hearst makes a cameo as his mother. Coincidence? Too bad they didn't put a misfits song in the movie. "all hell breaks loose" would have sufficed nicely. :) Ryq doin' the safety dance ------------------------------ From: bengl@interserv.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:04:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #133 Theres been a big movement lately in which old punk bands get back together and play shows and stuff. Some of them play in local underground clubs for 5 bucks a pop and some of im (the ramones for instince) charge more than $50 bucks to see them. I was just wandering if the misfits are gonna do the same thing the ramones did and play some over securitied show with security guard and it costing extra to dance in the pit? I think it would be unfare for them to do that because ( now I am not saying that glenn did it all or even most of it but he was a key band member) they are a differnt bend now w\out glenn. anyway if anyone knows anything about this I would apreciate any info. -Bengl@interserv.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 15:36:02 -0500 From: She Subject: Peter Moeller Peter - I got your message and saved it for the band. I have no idea why on earth they selected Herford as a place to play. I think their brother Rocky worked out the touring schedule. For a long time I was unable to mail to you because the mail would bounce. However, the bible has been going to you successfully for the last few weeks. mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:52:26 +0500 From: rlammey@mail.bev.net Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #128 >A few comments/questions - the misfits boot/import with Glenn calling bobby a homo, cunt, and the undead suck, is also on a boot called 'Vampira.' It's got some studio versions too, and ain't that bad. Also, who originally did Eve of Destruction. Can we pass a law allowing the execution of anyone who makes reference to a Saved By the Bell Misfits sighting. Seems to me the guys are putting the 'fits back together to try to make money on the so-called "punk explosion." I read in Rolling Stone that Green Day is punk, they just learned how to play their instruments. Is this a crock of shit. Is it just me or do they seem like they are trying to look like the Sex Pistols in their first two videos (Not that I watched them of course) Besides, I always thought punk was more of an attitude than a music style. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Well anyway in the year or so that's passed I've had no email, and had numerous questions and ideas to post here, so here goes. if I ask something that's already been answered or talked abouto forgive me Can someone fill in the gaps for me about the thing that doyle and jerry run. Is it a guitar factory? someone give me the whole story, please! I was watching the movie "mask" about the biker kid with lionitis, and his house number at the beginning of the movie is 138. Later in the movie when he gets his locker assigned, his locker number is 138. Cool, huh? Does anyone posting here have a misfits tattoo? if you do, tell me what it is, and where you have it and stuff. I'm just curious. Does anyone have or know of a place where I can find a font like the "famous monsters of filmland" logo? If not, someone should make one! I would do it if I were that computer literate, but I'm not. For anyone that cares, I'm in a misfits tribute band called Psycho 78. If you want us to play in your town, email me and we'll work something out. That's all I can think of for now. stay evil, ben ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: assorted ramblings Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) well its been awhile since i posted. first someone mentioned that the misfits stay true to their ideals. their ideals were based in the late 70's/early 80's. things progress, evolve. who knows maybe punk is green day/rancid. it sure wasn't back then, but we aren't back then are we? also about glenn, w/o him the misfits as we know them would have never been. you can argue that they may have been better, worse, etc. but the fact is no one else is glenn danzig, except him, and imho glenn was an intrigal part of the misfits. note i said was, the misfits are no longer part of glenn and vice versa. lets not try to judge the new misfits by some antiquated standards, evolution happens, lets judge them in 1996 standards, not 1979. i for one know i've changed a lil bit since then, isn't the same to be expected of the fits? after all they are human. as for the lyrical debate i think someone wise said if you listen to the lyrics your sussed, you fall into the trap they despise, but thats just something i heard. -- Paul Hahn hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu Prozac: http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul It lubricates your mind check out the Speedball Homepage so your boss can fuck it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 02:41:13 -0500 From: She Subject: 1 3 4 > From: wallace836@vegas.email.net > BTW I used to collect all sorts of Misfits stuff, and used to have a > Plan 9 single featuring Rat Fink, Spook City USA, and ? It had a purple > cover, with a cartoon of a woman being strapped to a spanking machine on the > front (I think). I've yet to see mention of this anywhere. Also, I used to > have the Cough/Cool single, but sold it (along with most of my Misfits > records) for Christmas money. What is the going-rate for this single? I > always assumed it was a bootleg. The Rat Fink bootleg also has Children In Heat. It, like everything else ever mentioned here in the MIsfits Bible is listed on the web page. The Cough/Cool single is certainly not a bootleg ( if you happen to have the original) although many bootlegs of it exist. IT goes for several hundred dollars if it's real. > of old Misfits/Samhain records to be signed...many of which I've never even > heard of. Glenn signed them all...even laughed once, and held up a record > saying "Where did you get this?" I think it was a Samhain fiend-club > release; it was not one of the major releases, anyway. There were no Samhain fiend club releases, since the Fiend Club was a Misfits fan club. However, it's possible it was a test pressing of something. It's too bad you can't all see EVB and Johnathan Grimm's collections. They have some amazing stuff. > From: brian trainor > > ok, i'm a little hazy on this one... are there going to be any mailings > for those of us who applied to the Fiend club after Spring? like around > November? or can we only get in if we send in the t-shirt money? just > wondering. thanks. Oh yes, fear not. Anyone who joined the Fiend Club after this spring will not receive the next fan club mailing. The will however, receive the one AFTER that. There is no need to send money to join. Just a letter with your address. > From: Maureen Harrington > Subject: gogo's > Recently i heard an very strange rumour from one of my friends. > Apparently before the Misfits were named the Misfits they were called > the Gogo's.I then laughed at him and told him they were all girls but he > insisted his story was true.Can anyone resolve this for us. Of course this is entirely untrue. > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 11:21:13 -0500 (EST) > From: Chris Hatcher > Subject: Feline Nursery / Spinal Remains > > that the original of Feline Nursery doesn't have any vocal tracks. I > read (I think it was at Misfits Central) that this was because the > microphone was accidentally unplugged before they recorded it, which > means that there are lyrics to Feline Nursery (duh). Are these different > from Spinal Remains? I'm going to assume that they are since it is > called something completely different. If so, does anyone know what the > Feline Nursery lyrics were? There were definitely other lyrics to Spinal Remains. Jerry doesn't know why Glenn made up new lyrics in '85 for the Legacy Of Brutality album. It could be that he forgot the original lyrics. We may never know.... > From: bengl@interserv.com > > Theres been a big movement lately in which old punk bands get back together > play shows and stuff. Some of them play in local underground clubs for 5 bucks > pop and some of m (the ramones for instince) charge more than $50 bucks to see > them. I was just wandering if the misfits are gonna do the same thing the > ramones did and play some over securitied show with security guard and it > costing extra to dance in the pit? I think it would be unfare for them to do > that because (now I am not saying that glenn did it all or even most of it but > he was a key band member) they are a differnt bend now w\out glenn. anyway if > anyone knows anything about this I would apreciate any info. The Halloween show a few weeks ago was supposed to be free, but Coney Island charged $20. The Misfits received no money from that show, nor did they receive any for their guest appearances with Type-O. Jerry is not out to get rich. He doesn't need to tour for money. He just wants to play, and I suspect that this will be reflected in the price of their tickets. At least I hope so. On the other hand, the promoters may try to over-charge because they know the Misfits are legendary. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:05:44 CST From: JP Okay, I've got more silly questions for someone to answer: Did the new Misfits ask Robo to be their drummer? Did Robo not want to be a part of it again or is just tired of drumming? Personally, I kinda like his style and all. Not that I know what Chud is like or anything, but I was just thinking that it would've been cool to have seen 3 out of 4 back. Oh yeah, what's the special gonna be for issue 138? ------------------------------ From: Osito666@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:03:24 -0500 Subject: More Danzig Crimson Ghost, I didn't rephrase what you said at all. You should read things a little more carefully and not jump to conclusions. There is a big difference between what we said and you still don't understand it. I think you said something once about almost being self employed, so this example won't exactly fit your situation, but it should suffice. Is your boss doing you a favor by paying you or do you work for a living? I bet you'd say that you work hard for your money. Does your boss support you? It doesn't sound right, does it? Does your boss feed your family? Does he buy your kid's shoes? Or do you? See the difference? Danzig isn't indebted to anyone. You used to work for Proedge, didn't you? Did you eat knives? Or did you wait for the Caiafas to pay you out of the kindness of their hearts? Andrew ------------------------------ Subject: Caroline, Oh Caroline Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 12:55:34 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Duran Does anyone besides me hope that, when it comes to the lyrics, Caroline uses the font that was used to print the song titles on the WAU LP, and EvilivE cassette? It might be kinda hard to read, but it'd look great. btw, Mark, haven't seen the page in a while. i like the reorganization. great work. -+> gut-ripper <+- ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:07:41 -0500 Subject: 134 Gulliver wrote: "All I've got to say about this is fuck you jerkoff. Just because you like other bands besides the Misfits doesn't make you not a fan. ... It's assholes like you that come onto this page not to show that you are a fan or want to have an intelligent thing to say but come just to cause trouble because you have a low self opinion and need to boost yourselves up by cutting down other people for things that they like. " First of all, Gulliver apoligized to me after one furious EVB tore into him like a buzzsaw so I'm not going to give him a hassle. He owned up to his mistake and that's ranked highly in my book. All I have to say is that I've been good friends with EVB for a while now and am a fan of Marilyn Manson's music just as she is. I have NEVER posted anything simply to "flame" anyone or cut anyone down or to "boost my self-esteem." I've posted on numerous occassions providing information such as appearances of Jerry and Doyle right here in the Garden State as well as convention info and even DIRECTIONS to the goddamn things! (I believe our own Mark would have been a little lost last October on his way to the Chiller show had I not posted the directions on how to get there!). Jesus Christ! All I have to say is read things VERY carefully and think about them before putting both of your feet in your mouth. I think a LOT of fiends on this list would do themselves good if they improved their reading comp. a bit! I wasn't even saying a SINGLE NEGATIVE THING about EVB! As for me not being a Misfits fan, well, that's hitting below the belt. I'd like to think myself one of the biggest Misfits fans in Bergen County, home of our own "Twins of Evil". I have a roomful of signed memorabilia, records, and even a model of the band to prove it! Anyway ... Adam Christensen wrote: "Lately I have been on a conquest to view as many of the old horror flics that inspired misfits songs as I can. It is fucking impossible! The video stores around here suck big time and only have fairly recent films. ... Can any of you fellow fiends help me out on this?" You're so right. The domination of "Blockbuster" over the smaller video store has almost made the hard to find horror films extinct. But there's hope. There's a place called "Video Wasteland" out of Berea, OH that rents through the mail various horror films both old and new. Dario Argento, Fulci, "Coffin Joe", Romero. They have all the greats and even the not so greats, too. Since I've been a member, my video collection has expanded dramatically. I saw "Bloodfeast" for the first time thanks to them (if only the film was as good as the song ...). Their address is ... 214 Fair St. / Berea, Ohio /44017 ... their rates are good if you consider that dealers charge you a minimum of $20 at conventions or through the mail for a film you may not like in the end. You can view them and decide for yourself for less than half the price w/ "V.W." The guy who runs it, Ken, is a cool guy, too and a fellow horror film fan. If you write them and send them a few dollars, I'm sure they'll send you a catalog. If anyone decides to become a member, PLEASE (!!!) dont' forget that "L. Marcelo"/Member #311 sent you! Richard Hinojos wrote about the film "Bio-Dome": "Too bad they didn't put a misfits song in the movie. "all hell breaks loose" would have sufficed nicely. :)" JESUS CHRIST!!! TAKE THOSE WORDS BACK!!! Those "Hey, Vern!" (I can't remember the character's name) movies are BAD ... moldy oldy Chevy Chase films are WORSE ... but the all time WORST films of ALL time are those thrown together by Pauly Shore! The film that deserves to have "All Hell Breaks Loose" grace its soundtrack is the celluloid "bloodfeast" that comes to a theatre near you on Jan. 19th ... "From Dusk Till Dawn" ... SEE IT! - the misunderstood BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:05:19 -0500 From: "The Notorious A.N.P." Subject: Correction II In the last bible, I believe, Mark incorrectly listed Glenn as saying "One more fucking time you asshole, you die!" during 20 Eyes. If my assumption is correct, Jerry says it during Horror Business because before he is done shouting, Danzig continues with the lyrics. Also, on Dateline, on Dec. 19th, they had some feature and they had a scene at a mall where I saw a guy wearing a Misfits shirt. It had white lettering at the top that said "Misfits" and the CG was beneath. Must have been a bootleg for I've never saw that one before. Just tryin to inform y'all. Aaron ------------------------------ From: transmania501@vabeach.email.net Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:29:25 EST Subject: jerry&doyle I am a Misfits fan and I am a Danzig fan...two concepts that seem to be at odds with one another on this page. I'm a breed that seems to be few and far between here, so I can probably get away with defending/accepting a lot of different comments about the bands. BUT: what I am getting tired of is the constant attatcks made on Glenn's character. Time and again we hear Jerry and Doyle's sides of the story (as related by Mark, our faithful master of ceremonies), never questioned, and always assumed as FACT. Where is Glenn's side of the story? His surly nature and stubborn refusal to live in the past are generally accepted to imply a disgust for Misfits music. This is not 1981. Glenn has recorded more than 70 songs since the breakup of the Misfits...let it rest. This "new" Misfits is a sad attempt to relive past glories that weren't that glorious in the first place. Why hasn't anyone criticized J&D for leeching off Glenn's music (or at least 90% of his music) when Glenn has been critized for doing the same thing in the past. A songsmith the caliber of Glenn Danzig crucified on a weekly basis, while Jerry& Doyle, as mediocre as musicians get, are deified? Strange. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:58:26 EST From: MR MIKE D MOLLURA Subject: The Tension Mounts -- [ From: Mike Mollura * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Ok, that was cute Brett, "All lyrics and music by Glenn Danzig". And why did you say Ha Ha. Its not like it's fucking funny, it's the truth as far as you and I know. And if you think I am jumping on the L.O.B./Danzig bashing "band wagon", you're wrong! I never liked Danzig much, I mean I can deal with it and all, but it just ain't my thing thats all. I never once said "Danzig sucks, I hate them" blah-blah. As for Legacy, before I heard about all these over dub claims, I must admit, I did dig it more. I still listen to it alot though (More than the Earth A.D. gold CD that is collecting dust on my dresser), even more than the actual Static Age demos (Because they are on a tape). It just feels like it's not the Misfits. Like for example, I'm a huge Alice in Chains fan, and I just purchased their new CD. It's like finding out that Jerry Cantrell sung, and overdubbed everything on there and the other guys got left out. I know that is a very shitty parallel to make, but I made so deal with it. You are very right, some of us (I included) have been a little harsh on Glenn and you are damn right about if he didn't exist, you and me wouldn't be arguing/debating. I don't go around flaming you saying shit like, you're an asshole or fuck you or Bile666 (For saying that about EVB, maybe) is an asshole, fucking cunt. And lastly, you think I write in to this bible praying that satan will deliver this message to Mr. Danzig? No! I write to this bible to hear other peoples views and what they have to say (Like Brett.), and to learn about what happened and the story behind the music and all that shit. By the way, Brett, I don't know why people think you're imature because you're 19. I sure don't because, hell,I'm 16, Dieff is 17, and Chris Ternes is somewhere around there. Oh yeah, hi Chris, I haven't talked to you in a while, I heard you're demo, too. If you guys get mad at me for *revealing* your age, I just did it to prove a point, sorry. If anybody wants to pick on someone there age, block it out and think of their knowledge instead, OK? Because they (Chris and Brett in particular) seem to know alot more than some of the other lackeys who come on here just to say, Glenn sucks, Danzig is satan and all that other damage. So if you don't have something to say with some sort of reason or an opinion with (get this) a *Reason* and *facts*, sit on it, because you won't hear the end of it from many people. Thanks for your time. Mike ***What do you know, that we Know?***, Jerry Only 10\31\82 Bethlem, PA ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 21:18:44 -0500 Subject: stuff crimson ghost: do you know glenn danzig personaly? you speak of what he's feeling as if you live with him. if you do know glenn and speak to him on a normal basis, i appologize, i didn't know. but to the best of my knowledge you don't. how can you say he didn't approve of collection II because he had to part with money over it? you don't know that. truth is, like the misfits lyrics, nobody but glenn really knows for sure what's going on. why is it that only jerry and doyle are the only misfits members credited with having co-wrote some of the misfits music? frache coma, who i feel was the best guitarist ever in the band,( and probalbly the most talented) is never mentioned as having wrote anything. besides, even the some of the die-hard misfits fans admit, some samhain, and danzig music is okay. i've never heard anyone mentioning ktc as being even okay. most people feel it's crap. nothing personal, against jerry and doyle, but it is lacking originality and i hope none of that leaks into the "new" misfits. although i'll probably by the new stuff too, even if it is crap. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: Bruce Lee Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:43:16 -5 Subject: Do you think we're robot clean... Fiends, Just a reminder, it's only three more issues until number 138. Let's try to keep this issue full of stories on how the Misfits affect you, why/how you got into the 'fits, a funny story relating to the Misfits, etc...keep the stupid threads and flames toward Danzig out until #139...I think we can all do that. Take care, The OTHER Mark "Take off that shabby dress, come and lay beside me." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 15:34:07 -0600 (CST) From: Enter.in.Prefs Subject: Misfits cover band Just wanted to let you know that on Halloween '95, the band Gomez played as the Misfits at Emo's in Austin Tx. It was a great show. One of the funnest I've ever been to. I would imagine they played for 1 and a half to 2 hrs. The only thing that was wrong was that the singer and bassist didn't match their counterparts (No big Deal). They sure sounded like them though... One thing that I found real funny however was how they took all the things the band members would say from the live recordings... "We play these ....Jackhammers... I demand a beer... " Things like that. It was almost like a play at times. It was kind of like a Rocky Horror picture show in that everyone was screaming lyrics... Truthfully they didn't even need a singer (he sounded like glenn) since the audience was there.... I talked to the band afterwards and they said that they will probably do it again next year.. BTW they had huge Crimson Ghost posters stapled all over the place which they had made and kindly given away after the show... Matt Range Z_RANGEMM@TITAN.SFASU.EDU ------------------------------ Subject: Bobby Steele From: brian trainor Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 13:26:12 EST I would just like to add my two cents... from what i understand, The Misfits have reason to dislike Bobby, but i don't. the first show i ever whent to was to go see the Undead and before the show started i got the chance to meet Bobby and he struck me as a REALLY nice guy. he was violently anti-smokeing during the show, but oh, well. it was a great show, and it will always be one of my fondest memories. ------------------------------ From: Timmy999@sunbelt.net Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Balzac = Ghouls delight! I only subscribed to The Misfits Bible last week so forgive me if I am rehashing old news, but there is a great Misfits influenced band called Balzac. I have a 7" by them called "Atom Age Vampire in 308." They are described as a "Japanese re-incarnation of the Misfits." Every Fiend out there will love these guys. Trust me. Does anybody else know of any other Balzac releases i NEED to hear them! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 16:08:43 MST From: "Cadet Kyle J. Pumroy, x4748" Subject: last time hi, I just read my post from last time. I didn't have my contacts in when I wrote it, so I was suprised at all the type-o's etc. Sorry about that. Also, before somebody tries to argue about what I said, I just want to clarify. I wasn't saying that the Misfits should try to play music people like. I think all bands should play the music they like and want to play. The thing is, their music is obviously enjoyable for a lot of people, seeming to show there may be an untapped market out there of potential misfits fans. who cares if it's just 14 year olds who really dig Green Day? They have every right to be a fan as those of us who never heard about the misfits until they'd been broken up for five years (or even those of us who had). I'm just saying Jerry and Doyle should make an attempt to bring their music to those who would truely appreciate it, and MTV and magazines like Rolling Stone can be the most effective way of doing this. Sorry if this wasn't clear in the last post. oh yeah, am I right in assuming the box set won't have a version of Braineaters and other songs from the Ruby records recordings? I mention braineaters because it was supposedly only recorded once by the Misfits. Or will the box have Glenn's collection II versions on it as well? thanx kyle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:52:59 -0600 From: Jaime Obergfell to anyone who thinks that the misfits lyrics are childish, man look at where glenn got all of his ideas, old horror movies.how original.i mean that was totally cool and the content of the songs are short but catchy,just like real punk is suposed to be.i'm not trying to insult anyone,but i just had to comment.i mean im no whiz be any means hell i dont even puncuate.well it is kind off a trade mark so to speak.by the way everyone needs to check out the misfit tribute band devilock.they are totally awesome.raw and totally stay true to misfits versions.their demo has hatebreeders,skulls,mommy...,teenagers,and london dungon.check them out ive got the info you need to get a copy of the demo. please dont comment on how cover bands suck.these guys have worked hard to pay homage to one of the best punk bands of all time and i think that their effots need to be appluded not trashed.they make no money off the songs they only charge for the tape and shipping for the demo. by the way in what show does glenn yell at bobby steele during 20 eyes?ive read/heard that it was on evillive, but ive also heard tht it is on the xmas 81/82 show.but ive got the christmas show and i dont hear it so im assuming that it is on evillive. till the next post ya'll take care.......yes im a northern stuck in alabama..............respectfully....jaime ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Blah Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:06:32 -0500 (EST) Hey Mark---Why did you take most of the danzig pictures off the web And could you also tell me the correct spelling of Glenn's real last name? Do any of you other fiends collect misfits stickers? If you do please tell me which ones you have so that I will know which ones I still need. Adam Seven P.S. Did anyone else send in an order for the boxed set from Vinyl Ink Records? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:19:31 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Nothing much, really. You know, it just occurred to me that I saw "Giant Gila Monster" as part of a ten-tape box set at Camelot Music in Fredericksburg, VA for $40.00. There were a couple of other films that influenced the Misfits in there, but I don't immediately recall which ones. So I guess if you're really interested in finding some of those old horror flicks, check out you local record chain store. Why the hell do they still call them *record* stores? I think records have been outlawed from being sold in shopping malls... Hey Jolanta B. - Please e-mail me because I have a surprise for you. - Brent "All the people have gone away, the ancient radio station plays All the hits from yesterday, no one to hear what they have to say. So we see it once again, classic science fiction end Perfect dream outlives the man, the machine outlives the man..." SenseField "outlive the man" - from the forthcoming album "Building" due out in April/May ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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IRC #misfits comments... Thank You's and Fuck You's 138 quickly approaching ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:51:21 -0500 From: angelo correz Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #135 At 01:31 PM 1/18/96 -0500, you wrote: > >Misfits Bible, Number 135 > >Thursday, January 18th 1996 > Well, this my first post to the bible so i hope I am correct in mailing it to mark's email address.... I was just curious as to why being a fan of the Misfits (for a lot of people, not all of course) seems to equal hating glen Danzig? I'm not bashing anyone for their loyalty, but I am a Misfits fan and yes also a Danzig fan, and any bad blood between Glen and The Misfits in the past (or the present) has absoloutly no bearing on how I feel obout the music of the Misfits and Danzig respectfully. Not that I am anyone to judge what feelings Glen Danzig produces in any of you, but as a fan, A reasonable adult, and also an active performer in a punk band i have to wonder why personal politics is more important than fun, music, and comeradery. please don't feel to hostile towards me if I have misunderstood any of you who do feel this way. sungod7@westol.com "Who but me could write this book of cruel?" " Prime directive: EXTERMINATE THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE! " http://www.westol.com/~sungod7 sungod7@westol.com ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #135 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:34:47 -0500 (EST) > From: Blood Feast > > Can someone fill in the gaps for me about the thing that doyle and > jerry run. Is it a guitar factory? someone give me the whole > story, please! I was watching the movie "mask" about the biker Jerry and Doyle's father owns Proedge, a knife and machine parts manufacturer in Vernon NJ. Both of them quit almost a year and a half ago to continue their Misfits careers. They do manufacture their Rand guitars there when necessary. > from: ? > > Okay, I've got more silly questions for someone to answer: Did the new > Misfits ask Robo to be their drummer? Did Robo not want to be a part of > it again or is just tired of drumming? Personally, I kinda like his style No, Robo was not asked. They had been working with Dr. Chud for several years, so there was no reason for them to ask Robo, especially when they feel that Chud is the best person for the job. They recently have had a sort of falling out with Robo, although this had nothing to do with their choice. > From: "The Notorious A.N.P." > > In the last bible, I believe, Mark incorrectly listed Glenn as saying "One > more fucking time you asshole, you die!" during 20 Eyes. If my assumption > is correct, Jerry says it during Horror Business because before he is done > shouting, Danzig continues with the lyrics. Yep, it's definitely horror business, the other time they yell at Bobby is between 20 Eyes and Martian, but that's definitely Glenn who yells at him during Horror Business. Not Jerry. > From: transmania501@vabeach.email.net > BUT: what I am getting tired of is the constant attatcks made on > Glenn's character. Time and again we hear Jerry and Doyle's sides of the > story (as related by Mark, our faithful master of ceremonies), never > questioned, and always assumed as FACT. Where is Glenn's side of the story? Glenn's side appears here often, whenever people like Brett Fama or EVB speak up. I don't feel like I actively take sides. I just tell it like is. If Glenn doesn't help out with Collection II, I'll tell you. If Glenn overdubs songs, I'll tell you. If Glenn puts a Samhain song on Collection II, I'll tell you. If Glenn lies about his age, I'll tell you. When Jerry and Doyle overdub on the Max's Xmas album, I'll tell you. I don't really have much choice in things like that. If they're true, they're true. Just in case anyone's wondering, I love almost every song Glenn's ever written. Sometimes I think his lyrics are a little silly, but he's certainly one of the best song writers I've ever encountered. > This "new" Misfits is a sad attempt to relive past glories that weren't that > glorious in the first place. Why hasn't anyone criticized J&D for leeching > off Glenn's music (or at least 90% of his music) when Glenn has been critized > for doing the same thing in the past. The Misfits songs are the ones they know and love best, so what the hell do you expect them to do? > From: EvilDieff@aol.com > why is it that only jerry and doyle are the only misfits members credited > with having co-wrote some of the misfits music? frache coma, who i feel was > the best guitarist ever in the band,( and probalbly the most talented) is > never mentioned as having wrote anything. besides, even the some of the Franche also helped work out some songs, if I remember correctly. > From: brian trainor > > the chance to meet Bobby cheese steak from the steak shop across the street> and he struck me as a > REALLY nice guy. he was violently anti-smokeing during the show, but oh, > well. it was a great show, and it will always be one of my fondest First of all, I think it's great that Bobby stands up for what he believes in. Second, he has 2 reasons for being anti-smoking: 1) He has a respiration problem. If you smoke near him, you're just putting him to death and making it hard for him to perform, or even talk. 2) He thinks it's hilarious that so many of these 'rebellious punk types' (and this mailing list is full of them) are selling themselves out to the government and all the corporations that they supposedly despise by buying into the tobacco industry. We had a lengthy discussion about this and he ridiculed smokers. > From: > Subject: last time > > The thing is, their music is obviously enjoyable for a lot of > people, seeming to show there may be an untapped market out there of > potential misfits fans. who cares if it's just 14 year olds who really > dig Green Day? They have every right to be a fan as those of us who never > heard about the misfits until they'd been broken up for five years (or > even those of us who had). I'm just saying Jerry and Doyle should make an > attempt to bring their music to those who would truely appreciate it, and > MTV and magazines like Rolling Stone can be the most effective way of > doing this. Sorry if this wasn't clear in the last post. > oh yeah, am I right in assuming the box set won't have a version of > Braineaters and other songs from the Ruby records recordings? I mention > braineaters because it was supposedly only recorded once by the Misfits. > Or will the box have Glenn's collection II versions on it as well? thanx I think it's funny that so many of the subscribers to this list take the opportunity to trash so many bands, many of which Jerry and Doyle actually listen to. What will you all do when The Misfits turn up on MTV? And on an interesting note, what about The Sex Pistols? Has everyone heard that they're going to tour this summer? Their tour is currently being bid on by all the major promoters. As far as I know, no 'fake' Misfits recordings will be on this box set release, but I guess we won't know until we hear it. > From: Jaime Obergfell > > by the way in what show does glenn yell at bobby steele during 20 > eyes?ive read/heard that it was on evillive, but ive also heard tht it is on > the xmas 81/82 show.but ive got the christmas show and i dont hear it so im > assuming that it is on evillive. The band yells at Bobby several times during the part of Evilive that was recorded on 12/17/81. At this show, as well as the Xmas '81 show, and also on 4/17/82 Glenn made new lyrics to Teenagers From Mars, although Bobby was only there at the 12/17/81 show. > From: Adam Christensen > > Hey Mark---Why did you take most of the danzig pictures off the web I took the Danzig pictures off the page to make room for more Misfits pictures. I have a certain limit on how much space I can take up and I had to sacrifice something. It's the people at American Recordings who should be supplying the Danzig photos. However, all the pictures on the page, as well as all the lyrics, all the back issues, and the discography are available from the music archive FTP site: archive.uwp.edu I don't know what goes on nowadays, but when I was first exposed to the Internet 3 years ago, the music server was the first thing I learned about. It is truly the greatest source of musical data in the world.... And finally, Peter Moeller, I've added you to the list for Jerry. mark ------------------------------ Subject: related bands (??) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:37:29 -0500 (EST) From: Eric J Peterson fellow fiends, I first have a misfits sighting, in the movie Empire Records two charcters are discussing bands while the end credits roll, one of them starts talking about the misfits and how they had everything a great punk band needed. Second i want to know if any one has an album by the band TSOL called dance with me. Apperantly the album in lyricaly in misfits territory. The only song i know from the album(which i am still trying to locate) is called code bule and is about necrophilla. There is alos a band called New Math that put out two albums in the early 80's the first one was called They walk amoung you, i have it it's pretty cool, but their second record (gardens) was on a lable called braineatters. Does anyone know if the misfits had anything to do with that lable? new math turned into the band jet black berries, and then disappeared, if any one has any info on the second new math album or beaineatters records feel free to e-mail me. thanks E.P. ------------------------------ From: wallace836@vegas.email.net Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:38:48 PST Subject: Verotik & Danzig 5 Just got the lastest issues of Verotika and the 1st issue of "Igrat"...these issues are a lot bettter (I bought them even though I vowed not to after the "Taste of Cherry" story a few issues back). In the back their is an article about "Planet Comics", who have been pushed out of business by lawsuits (they were the ones busted for selling Verotik comics). With a donation of 5$ or more, you get an autoghraphed copy of Nancy Collins Sunglasses after Dark 1/2. Verotik is also auctioning an auotgraphed copy of DEATH DEALER #1...signed by Glenn Danzig/Simon Bisley/ and Frank Frezetta! They say to just send in your offer (no money) for this comic. All proceeds go to the defense fund of Planet Comics' owners Michael Kennedy and John Hunter. There was alos a sketch by Martin Emond that blended the Danzig skull into a caracature of a crucifyed Glenn...it was AWESOME and has to seen to be believed. It would make an excellent choice for the next album cover. Speaking of which, Glenn noted that he was finished mizing Danzig 5! Anyone heard a release date on this yet? BTW the address for those donations/Death Dealer bids: Verotik Publishing, Attn. Planet Comics, Box 64859, Los Angeles, CA 90064 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:59:35 CST From: JP After some scrutiny, I noticed in a Simpsons episode the other night that Millhouse got his hair wet and had really long bangs. In fact, he kinda looked like he was one of the band members or a fiend. I guess his blue hair would really be black in real life. Of course, it could just be coincidence that there was a big deal for episode 138 and so on... Someone on here mentioned that they live in a hick state--not as big as the hick state I live in. Sorry, but it can't get any worse than MS. How many people on here have bands that do covers of Misfits songs? Which ones? I did "where eagles dare" with my band's guitarist today while we were sitting around. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 16:33:23 -0500 From: Dave Asselin Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #135 >From: She > >The Cough/Cool single is certainly not a bootleg ( if you happen to have the >original) although many bootlegs of it exist. IT goes for several hundred >dollars if it's real. Alright, I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but I always forget. Can someone tell me roughly what I should be paying for copies of Misfits 7"s? I ask because I bid on a copy of "Horror Business" through Goldmine once. I bid $100, but I had no idea how much the record sells for. (The seller didn't have a minimum bid listed). Needless to say, I lost the bid, and I never found out how much it went for. I want to know so I can save myself the trouble (and anxiousness) of bidding on items I can't afford. Thanks.. - Dave [>$#!$%$%^%$#%@$!$#!$%$&#%^%^%$#%7%$%^%$#%@$*&%^*%&#^@%!<] [> Dave Asselin pmack@shore.net <] [> ...Your Smashing Pumpkins bootlist gets mine... <] [> SP Tour List History: http://www.shore.net/~pmack/ <] [>$#!$%$%^%$#%@$$#%@$$#!$%$%^%$#%@$$#!$%$%^%$#%@$*&#^@%!<] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 22:54:19 -0500 (EST) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: english lesson hey cg- Actually, I specifically chose the word "apathetically" to express what I think Dando was trying to express (as far as I can guess from my friend's description). Yes, the very act of thrusting one's fist in the air has always symbolized strong emotion or great excitement. That's why Dando's ironic, utterly passionless rendition of this classic gesture was so damned funny. I figured I would be open to this sort of criticism since I delivered an english lesson of my own last ish... Guess I'll have to keep on my toes. aon-1 There's only one rule in this town In case you didn't know by now A kid who tells on another kid is a dead kid -Nation of Ulysses ------------------------------ From: JZOMBIE66@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 19:55:19 -0500 Subject: DEMON I AM AND FACE I FEEL... SEE SKIN TURNED INSIDE OUT CAUSE I GOTTA HAVE U ON MY WALL I GOTTA HAVE U ON MY WALL CAUSE... I WANT YOUR SKULLS I NEED YOUR SKULLS DID I GET IT RIGHT? I JUST BOUGHT THE COLLECTION 1 AND IT KIX ASS!!! DOES ANYONE HAVE THE LYRICS TO SKULLS, DEVILOCK AND MOMMY CAN I GO OUT AND KILL TONITE? IF SO COULD U PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME? I CANNOT ACCES THE WWW OR THE INTERNET BECAUSE I AM RUNNING OFFA OLD SHITY 2400 MODEM BUT I AM ON AOL 2.6 I GOTTA GO CAUSE POSSESION OF A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING AND I GOTTA PICK UP MY GIRL FRIEND VAMPIRA DOWN AT THE HOLLYWOOD BABYLON SALOON THE ASTRO ZOMBIES ARE COMING OVER TONITE AT 138 AND I MUST PUT A DEVILOCK ON MY DOOR SO THE RAT FINKS DONT GET IN.WORD IS THEY ARE OUT TO EXTERMINATE THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE AND TURN THE WORLD INTO A GREEN HELL. THEY ONCE SAID DIE, DIE MY DARLING SHE SAID COME A LITTLE BIT CLOSER COME A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO ME WHILE SHE GOT THE TEENAGERS FROM MARS WITH THE WHOLE NIKE AGO GO TEAM OF DARING EAGLES TO PROTECT HER. SHE WORKS AT HORROR BUSINESS INC WHERE SHE DRAINS WOLFSBLOOD. SHE!!!! ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 22:24:58 -0500 Subject: talk show Well I know that I'm not an avid poster to the bible but this is almost geting comical. At the risk of sounding too much like Reginald Denny... why can't you all just get along?? This forum that should be used to support the band that we all happen to like is being turned in Geraldo..This week... Glenn Danzig and the fans that hate him.. tomorrow, Misfits music...written by the whole band or not?? WHO THE FUCK CARES???? Dammit I hate all the weak ass people who jump on the bandwagon, if you like the band it's hard not to like some of what the members have done after it. I don't wet my pants over Danzig nor do I get an erection for Kryst. I dug the misfits first. The things that each member has become and done holds some interest, but what they do in their personal lives doesn't matter. Guess what kids, Sid Vicious was a strung out asshole. He treated people and himself like shit. But the Pistols will still always be great. Thats just one of many examples that can be offered. How many of you can honestly say that you like none of the later work of Glenn or Jerry? I doubt too many. So why be pissed at someone for how they treat their past? I know that I'm rambling now but it needed to be said. Please don't make this bible a fucking pissing contest. If you don't agree, fine. If you want to tell me off, back it up. But don't get mad just because you don't like what I say. Use your mind. It's the best weapon you could ever have. Later. Jamie ------------------------------ Subject: balzac and stuff Date: Fri, 19 Jan 96 7:12:29 EST From: Blood Feast Balzac from japan does indeed rule. In addition to said seven inch They have a song on a cd comp called something like "america bombs hiroshima" or something like that. you can get it thru passive fist distro at po box 9313, savannah, ga 31412 But I don't know how much it costs. I don't mean to sound rude, but in rgards to the band devilock, what's the point in recording a demo if you're a cover band? Do they put their own kinda twist to the music or different arrangements or something? I just don't understand why anyone would want a tape of a band that was just trying their hardest to sound like another band. Playing shows is one thing, but putting out recordings is kinda dumb, if you ask me, which you didn't. Anyway disregard those questions I asked in the last issue, as I went to the web page and answered them myself. You know, I notice that sometimes this thing gets to be just a forum for people to say "glenn sucks" or "jerry and doyle suck" but I think everyone's missing the point that ROBO was obviously the coolest misfit. If you disagree just look at the back cover of Die Die my Darling. Robo's obviously so evil that he's trying not to laugh at glenn, jerry and doyle's weak attempts at being as cool as robo.So anyway, I hope everyone writes something cool for issue 138. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:41:36 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last ish --->Don Evil Said: >do you know glenn danzig personaly? you speak of what he's feeling as if you >live with him. if you do know glenn and speak to him on a normal basis, i >appologize, i didn't know. but to the best of my knowledge you don't. how can >you say he didn't approve of collection II because he had to part with money >over it? you don't know that. Last time I checked this list was a discussion group. That's all I'm doing, discussing. It's my opinion that this is the reason he will not recognize it. If you happen not to agree with my opinion please ignore it as the moronic ramblings of a total asshole or give me reason not to believe what I do. In the your last post you responded to some things that I said about Zappa. ie: using him as an example. I happen to agree with what you said and it sort of changed the way I looked at it. My opinions can be changed. If you have a better reason for Glenn not recognizing C2 please let me know. I the meantime my opinion makes sense. And again people - what I say on this is my opinion and only my opinion. In any case until a better mousetrap comes along I'll believe whatever the fuck I want. And continue to write whatever the fuck I believe. Sorry Don I'm not flaming you I happen to enjoy reading your stuff. I probably deserve what you said. But hey - you know free country, freedom of speech and all that shit. ********************SCROLLER ALERT***Topic*Glenn's*Income*************** -->Osito666 said: >I didn't rephrase what you said at all. You should read things a little more >carefully and not jump to conclusions. There is a big difference between >what we said and you still don't understand it. This arguement is so absolutely retarded. This will be my last post on the subject. #1 *please* don't patronize me. #2 I never said you rephrased anything #3 there is no difference in what we said #4 I never said the fans were "doing him a favor by paying him" #5 YOU should read things a little more carefully and not jump to conclusions. #6 You are the one that doesn't understand #7 open your eyes, the forest is there but the trees are obstructing your view This is my original post from issue #132 >In any case it boils down to this: Glenn is a performer, he makes his living >off his fans. He makes $'s when you buy Danzig, Samhain and Misfits albums. >If it weren't for the fans he would be broke, musical genius or not, without >the fans he's nothing. I could care less about what happened back then, he's >correct in that respect, it's over, but when a fan asks you to sign a >official copy of an album that you sang on, an album your getting royalty >checks on, you fucking sign it. Notice that in this post I make no mention of the things you've construed from it. I do not anywhere say that fans should own a piece of him. By saying that he makes his money off his fans, I mean that his income comes from his fans. The majority of his income comes from record releases and royalties. For me to say that his income is due to his fans is not a far reach by any standard. There's nothing wrong with what I said, at all. If you have a problem with how I speak about Glenn too fuckin' bad. But don't try to take a simple statement, that was used to illustrate another point, and twist it around. My comments were made to illustrate the fact that: If your going to sign comic book "A" or record release "B" it is not right to deny the fan that happened to bring along "C" instead of "B" like I said, you say Glenn makes his money off his music, who's buying it?? I never said you rephrased what I said. I said your saying the same thing, in another way albeit but the same thing. let's oversimplify: Glenn's fans stop buying his music. What's the net result? NO INCOME. That's the point I was originally making. Use your analogy as an example: >I think you said something once about almost being self employed, so this >example won't exactly fit your situation, but it should suffice. >Is your boss doing you a favor by paying you or do you work for a living? I >bet you'd say that you work hard for your money. Does your boss support you? > It doesn't sound right, does it? Does your boss feed your family? Does he >buy your kid's shoes? Or do you? See the difference? Danzig isn't indebted >to anyone. I never said glenn was indebted to the fans or that he owed them squat. I said "He makes his living off his fans..." if you look up the verb make in Webster's, defination #6 clearly states: to aquire; earn. I never said he was getting money for nothing. Your carrying on like I said that Glenn is a leech (which he is not.) >You used to work for Proedge, didn't you? Did you eat knives? Or did you >wait for the Caiafas to pay you out of the kindness of their hearts? My income at Proedge was a fixed figure, so to use a regular job as a example to explain yourself doesn't work. My income was not contingent on gross sales as Glenn's is. using this arguement Chuck, Eerie, John & Joey made their money off the music, They were paid x amount of dollars to play and received it regardless of record sales. Glenn's income, however, directly hinges on his popularity. Oh course you must remember that a signing, whether it be comic book, record, or any other commodity, is nothing more than an advertising campaign to stimulate sales of said commodity. Many artists will not sign anything other than what they are selling at that time. all I'm saying is that Glenn shouldn't sign one Misfits release and not another, he is the one sending out the mixed message. If it makes you feel better I'll rephrase myself: Glenn makes his living off the sale of his records, concert tickets, comic books etc... nuff said? *******************END SCROLLER ALERT************************** ----> Mike Mollura said: >By the way, Brett, I don't know why people think you're imature >because you're 19... ...some of the other lackeys who >come on here just to say, Glenn sucks, Danzig is satan and all that >other damage. So if you don't have something to say with some sort of >reason or an opinion with (get this) a *Reason* and *facts*, sit on it, >because you won't hear the end of it from many people. Thanks for your >time. I for one don't recall anyone calling Brett immature. He called himself a 17? y.o. "little bastard", which I took as a pretty humourous comment. Age has nothing to do with shit on this list. Oh btw Brett: I said I respected you, which might be misleading. You deemed it worthy to semi-flame me. Of course I don't respect you as a whole I do not know you. That doesn't mean I cannot respect you as a worthy adversary, based upon what you write. On the reason or opinion part of the above, no one can accuse me of not being opinionated :) %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % You cannot sedate, all the things you hate * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 12:33:58 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: collexionz, tours... Maybe Elizabeth & Johnathan might consider scanning pix of their collections for the web page...? That pictorial discography is pretty neat. I'd like to see more rare stuff up there. As for how much the Misfits make off touring, if the venues do decide to jack up the ticket price I hope to hell the Misfits make a bundle. It's nice when people can make a living off their music without bowing down to MTV. Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ From: wallace836@vegas.email.net Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 11:45:29 PST Subject: All Songs By.../Bootlegs In response to the All Songs By... discussion: Its true that every band interprets a song a different way, but their input into the actual construction of a song can mostly be little or none. I suspect this is the case with the Misfits...if we were talking about, for example, Frank Zappa/Black Sabbath/etc, bands that can often times create music that is very complex, then I would have to agree that the band probably had input. But the Misfits...? A two minute song is an epic for them! When did the rest of the band have time for any input? What the Misfits DID contribute was their unique playing styles, as simple as those styles were. Anyone who has heard Samhain/Danzig versions of All Hell/London Dungeon/Marylin knows that this is the case. They are still the same songs, but their TEXTURE are completly different. I'm not implying that the rest of the band were faceless session players...their presence in the band was enough to change the music alon. But this has nothing to do with the actual construction of a song. EXAMPLE: (okay, bad example) Anyone remeber Bannarama's version of "Venus"? Evcr hear the original? I'd be hard pressed to say that either songs had much in common, but they are still the same song. BOOTLEGS: As a side note, how do you guys listen to those bootlegs? I used to collest them before I came to my senses. I used to own about a dozen Misfits/Samhain/Danzig boots, and the sound quality was always terrible. The closest thing to GOOD that I heard was my Samhain Kockey club boot...but you could barely hear the guitars. Anyone else think Glenn's vocals don't hold up that well in concert? ALSO: This probably isn't a the right forum for this, but anyone interested in BLUE OYSTER CULT (a big Misfits/Danzig influence) should check out UNDERBELLY ONLINE. Its located at HTTP://pages.prodigy.com/PA/robo/robo1.html and it way cool. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 15:03:41 -0500 (EST) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Help the Undead Hello fiends, Back from the dead, the D-rod. I'd like to talk about the Undead. They are a good band I mean Bobby still keeps it going, the man is going to be at the signing. Although I have never met him he is supposed to be a great guy. The Undead is a great band They may take a little time to get used but I guarantee you will enjoy them if anyone would like a copy of dawn of the Undead Email me. Bobby is a guy who has struggled to play his music. That is it play. It's a shame that he has struggled so much. We need more support for the Undead. Just a thought what if Jerry, doyle, and bobby started a record company like discord and put records out on that. Then they could assure many releases and have a back catalogue. Just a thought but I'd like to hear what you have to say about the Undead? D-ROD ------------------------------ From: Danzig4192@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:43:25 -0500 Subject: The boring story of my life... I know this posting won't be as fascinating as the continuing saga of why Glenn does or doesn't suck, why Collection II sucks, or the ever-popular why the Crimson Ghost and/or his opinions do or do not suck, but I figured a few might want to read it anyway. In response to Blood Feast: I have a Misfits tattoo that I received in 2 parts. The first part was the Samhain/Danzig skull that I had traced directly of my Novermber-Coming-Fire LP (ain't vinyl grand?). I got that April 17th 1991 which was my birthday. It is on my back right shoulder (same size as one on album). I had it added onto about 2 years ago by a tattooist (James Vaughn in Greensboro, NC) that does a lot of good Giger stuff. I wanted a border around my skull similar to the one around Glenn's bat tattoo. We worked out a border that consists of 3 Crimson Ghosts on top, 2 skeletons on the sides, and 2 grinning skulls on the bottom. It is now a fairly large piece, all black with a lot of shading. I got a chance to show it to Glenn down in Charlotte, NC at his comic book signing and he said that it looked good and was original (btw he signed my Walk Among Us LP without a second thought). It is hard to describe a tattoo, I would scan a picture of it if I had a scanner, but.... Anyway, that is my only tattoo right now but as soon as I have the $$ I will probably get some more work done (next is Godzilla I think). Andy ps To all who think Glenn has a big head, watch the Super Bowl and a guy named Deion! ;-) ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 18:45:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: next danzig I read in a magazine (Circus I think) that Danzig V will be released in early 1996? Did he finnish recording the damn thing that quick? Anyone know any proposed release dates? Also someone said a member of Alice in Chains sings on one of the songs.....is it Jerry Cantrell or Layne Staley? JOe ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 18:01:08 -0500 Subject: Hello Just to clear things up about my age that Mike stated. 16. Not even 16 1/2, just plain old 16. 10/25/79 is my birthday. Hell, I'm still driving on my permit. And the Idiot Police cover "We Are 138" very closely to the original on our new tape, which I'll let everyone know about when it comes out. If anyone made it to our show at the Globe in Milwaukee on the 13th, drop me an e-mail and let me know what you thought. I've been told that there were people crying at my rendition of "Heart Shaped Box" I'd just like to confirm this. Just a comment on the age thing....it's funny I've dealt with people in my Prodigy days and even in here from time to time who complain about "Little 16 year olds" and then write to me because they're interested in some stuff on my list or they want to know something. Ironic, isn't it? I suppose I don't blame some of the people who do stereotype us younger people because some of us, hell, go into any high school in the nation and I can safely say that the immature people vastly outnumber the rest of us. And this is just a reminder to everyone before asking a question....do check the new footer at the end of each bible. There's some damn good advice. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 21:00:36 -0600 From: Jaime Obergfell hello all!!!!the coment made about bobby steele on the bootleg is during horror biz. when Glen,not jerry says "one more time you asshole and you die"someone stated that it coulnt have been glenn because he starts signing.whoever said that is mistaken because when this sentence is uttered you hear "phyco 78"in the background.it is clearly not glenn.it might be jerry but im not sure.hope i could be of some help... by the way does anyone have a clue as to the best place to find the kyrst disc???im totally clueless.also someone who knows for a fact is the earth a.d gold disc out of print.i am assuming so,but you know what happens when one assumes something. i almost got into a fight the other day because a dude told me that reguardless of weither the fits are back together,that they are still a has been band.i flew off the handle because this guy likes shit like hendrix.dont get me wrong but hendrix is dead!i think that defines a has been more than a band beeing split up for fourteen years.was i wrong????granted noone knows weither the fits new stuff will be worth a shit to the public,but who cares it people like us that count.to me it doesnt matter.if jerry and co. think that something is worthy of being titled a misfits song then that is good enough for me.ill like it no matter what.please give me some feedback on this topic.the reason i ask is because it really hurt me that someone who doent know anything about the band would made such a silly comment......untill your face drops to a pile of flesh......jaime ------------------------------ From: bengl@interserv.com Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 09:14:19 -0800 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #135 I just wanted to report yet another misfits sighting: In "The Crow" comic book (much better than the movie read it at all costs) one of them nasty gutter punx that the crow kills is wearing a plain t-shirt with the misfits logo on it. (probably the same bootleg that who-ever-it -was saw in the video of a mall) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 12:31:15 -0500 From: Nat Burke Subject: A few quick questions Hi, I have a couple questions that I hope some of you could help me out with. First of all, I have all the Misfits CD's I can get my hands on, but the amount of material on CD is pretty limited. How hard is it to find 7"'s and LP's, and what kind of price range would I be looking at? Secondly, I was thinking of pre-ordering the boxed set from Vinyl Ink... I dont know if anyone has done this already, but is it worth it, or should I just go buy it in the stores when it comes out. Finally, I REALLY would like to get my hands on the 1992 Caroline Gold CD release of Earth A.D. - so if anyone knows where I could get a copy, or if anyone is selling a copy, I'd greatly appreciate the info... I am a fairly new Misfits fan, so sorry if some of this comes off sounding stupid... Nat Burke ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 13:30:17 -0600 From: Gala Subject: Misfits Tape Trading mailing list! Here is the rules for the list... You must have at least 2 references with Email addresses. You must have at least 1 live show . Dont offend any of the other subscribers. This is NOT a mailing list for questions like "When are the Misfits touring", this is a mailing list for people to collect Misfits and related bands live shows and bootlegs. To subscribe, send Email to Gala@cris.com and put in header, the list will come out once a week, and maybe more if I have the chance. ------------------------------ From: Sean Subject: Spaghetti incident Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 17:58:16 +0000 Alright, I admit I am not a big fan of Guns and Roses. But, I went to the library and took out the spaghetti incednet CD.(Ain't libraries great?) I do like the version of ATTITUDE. Sure thr lyrics are a little different but it has a definate air of MISFITS about it. It catches the energy and enthusiasm of the Misfits. There are also Verions of AIN'T IT FUN. A classic song by THE DEAD BOYS. And NEW ROSE by the DAMNED. Also I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU by FEAR. Last but not least BLACK LEATHER by the SEX PISTOLS. They are some really GREAT covers!! Check it out at your local library. Also if anyone has any of THE DEAD BOYS albums please E-Mail me I am trying to find some. Mail me at: shoover@lnd.com Thanks \****************/ \ FUCK IT! / \ / \ ME / **************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 03:07:49 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Hey Fiends, Was just reading one of the interviews with Jerry off the page and there's a part in there where the interviewer asks about Kryst the Conqueror's vocalist and they hint about Yngwie Malmsteen's old vocalist. Is Kryst in all actuallity, Jeff Scott Soto? Got out my Rising Force CD and I'll be damned if it isnt the same guy. No one probably cares, but I got a big kick out of it. Mark, help me out if you know, and if it is him, do Jerry and Doyle still keep in contact with him? Last time I looked Jeff was still putting out solo stuff. Just curious. And In reference to Jaime Obergfell's comments about my band Devilock, thank you James and if anyone would like a copy of the demo, e-mail me with your address and I'll send you one. Later, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 12:57:51 -0500 From: Maureen Harrington Subject: jerry talk I can't fuckin believe it. Jerry Only just called my house in response to a letter I wrote him telling him about punkfest in Marmora Ontario and joining the Fiend club. As well as relating a few comments to me about Johny Rotten and Bobby Steel Jerry said that there was a good chance that they would play at Punkfest provided I gave him more information about it.The show will occur in July around the time of there U.S. tour on Spiders 60th birthday. For more info about Punkfest and Spider e-mail me or find the Punkfest page Which I can't remenber right now. Joda ------------------------------- From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Jerry Only Interview Well Here it is as promised. The Jerry Only Interview with Mike Stax, Ugly Things Magazine #12, Summer 1993. I'll be posting a section of the interview every Tuesday. It's just way to big to post all at once. When finished the interview will be available for download on my web page as a word for windows document. Sorry to all the mac users, but hey "You should've bought a windows machine" This article was reprinted with the permission of Mike Stax. The original Zine is chock full of rare never-before-seen pictures, if you enjoy the interview, buy the magazine. Mike Stax Ugly Things Magazine 405 West Washington Street #237 San Diego, CA 92103 USA US Copies are $6.00 postpaid international copies $8.00 postpaid Section #1 MISFITS ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE The Misfits walked among us: Flesheating astro-zombies, just arrived from Mars. Graverobbers From Outer Space. Landing in barren fields to steal your children from their beds and indoctrinate them to their violent world. Only-Ones, Lonely-ones. It's a transformation with an urge to kill. Prime directive: EXTERMINATE the whole human race....... THE JERRY ONLY INTERVIEW by MIKE STAX They looked like they'd just stepped off the stage of some long forgotten horror movie. A nightmare shock of ghoulish black leather cool, menacing muscle, and scowling skull-like faces, each bisected by a long point of hair - The Devil Lock. Live they were chaotic, unforgettable. The stocky, powerful singer, Glenn Danzig, wound tight like a cold steel trap, howling, snapping in a kind of tense frenzy. Towering on either side, the brothers, Jerry and Doyle, their huge arms savagely attacking their guitars as if the instruments were the last barricade to be broken down before all hell_really_broke loose and they waded into the crowd tearing and plundering: Death comes ripping. The world of dangerous fun. Prime directive: EXTERMINATE the whole fucking place. And the music... There's not been a punk band before or since who could match the power and the fury of the Misfits in their prime. They had it all: energy, melody, hooks, all locked together in short, totally original songs filled with images torn from the pages of EC Horror Comics, 50's B-movies and Glenn's own twisted, morbid imagination. Although they didn't release an album until 1982's classic Walk Among Us, and weren't widely known until then, the misfits actually date back to 1977, when the first line-up of the band was formed by Glenn Danzig, and bass player Jerry Only. The band lasted from early '77 until Halloween '83, leaving behind a string of explosive records in their wake. Unlike many of their peers, the Misfits' music has endured. Today they are more popular than they ever were when they were together. Collectors pay a small fortune for original copies of their early 7-inchers, and bootlegs of all kinds multiply. When Metallica covered two of their songs on an album, they introduced a new generation of kids to the Misfits, and the legend grew. But that was just the tip of the iceberg. More than any other reason , the Misfits have prevailed because they created a sound and image that is exciting, entertaining and wholly unique. The band's break up in 1983 was a bitter one by any standards. Glenn Danzig's subsequent projects - Samhain and then Danzig - have given him a platform that no other Misfits have been allowed. In interviews, Danzig usually seizes the opportunity to denigrate his old bandmates, belittling their contributions. While there's no denying that the creative vision of the Misfits was Glenn's, the role of the other members was absolutely vital, a fact that this article will make clear. To set the record straight, and to get - for the first time anywhere - the full story of the Misfits, I talked to the man who was a Misfit for the duration: Jerry Only Jerry, or Mo, as he's now known, is a great guy. He comes across as a direct, honest, no-bullshit person. He was totally candid in answering all of my numerous questions. His recollection of events was sharp and colorful and we had a lot of laughs. Our story begins in Lodi, NJ..... MS: What first got you into music when you were a kid? JO: When I was a kid, we used to go see Alice Cooper and Kiss and the Allman Brothers and shit like that. Anything that was at the outdoor concerts during summer vacation. Actually, what made me really want to play was that I saw David Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" tour in 1974, I believe it was. I think I was a junior in high school. I wasn't one of those people who played their whole life, y'know? I actually picked up a bass in March, and in April I did my first show (laughs). So it was a real quick learning procedure. But I think it speaks for itself; I got it down in a relatively short amount of time. When I saw that "Diamond Dogs" stage show, I said to myself, "Man, this motherfucker's getting paid for this and I gotta go to work! There's something totally wrong here!" 'Cos I would do that for nothin', you know what I mean? (laughs) When I saw him I said, "How much money is this guy making?" At the time it was like 10 or 12 bucks a ticket. It wasn't actually the money though, it was the love of what I saw. I kind of liked the entertaining - with the stage show and everything. The music just puts it all together. MS: But it was actually a few years later that you actually picked up a bass, right? JO: I got it for christmas, 1976, but it came late. I had to wait for it, and I actually got it at the beginning of February. So I practiced two months an then Glenn and myself formed the Misfits in March of '77. MS: How did you meet Glenn? JO: I met Glenn through the drummer, Manny, who played on the first single. I used to hang out with friends at a park in town. It was like a local hangout, and Manny's house happened to be next door to the park. The side of his house was at the gate to the park, so I would hear them playing and shit and I never thought much about it. Manny was a bit jazzier the the kind of shit I liked to play. He'd go down there and jam to Santana for you and shit like that. And for me, I didn't want to hear Santana play to Santana! Why would I want to hear Manny play to Santana, y'know? (laughter) So Manny introduced me to Glenn and that's how we formed the band. MS: What kind of music was Glenn into when you first met him? JO: I don't know if you know a band called the Adverts? MS: Yeah! JO: He was into the Adverts, he was into Generation X. We were all into the Damned, along those lines - basically British punk. MS: What first got you into punk rock. JO: Well, I just liked it, y'know? I was always a big Ramones fan. We used to go down to CBGB's and stuff to see the Ramones - at the time they just had one single out. I wasn't hard right away to just grasp the concept. You looked at them and said, "Hey these guys are bad, but we're fuckin' badder than this!" You know what I mean? MS: Right away, what was the sound of the original Misfits, when you first formed? JO: The sound of the Misfits was very Talking Heads-ish, Devo-type sound, I'd say - with keyboards at the time. It was just bass, keyboards and drums. We didn't have the image yet. We really didn't know what we were doing yet; we were feeling our way in. But we got out there and did it and we played our first show, I think it was April 18th at CBGB's. MS: Were you opening for somebody? JO: It was actually like an audition night. MS: What was your set like to start? Was it stuff that Glenn had written? JO: yeah, it was stuff like "She," "Cough/Cool"... "Bullet" was written, 'cos Glenn actually had "Bullet" written six years before the band. A lot of the earlier stuff Glenn had ideas for and he was workin' on it for awhile, but it didn't really jell until it came to be. I mean idea are great until get 'em put down and worked out and you work a little bit of a buzz about them, and then they become something tremendous - as opposed to just a good idea, y'know? MS: How long after the band first started did you do the first single? JO: Not long at all. It actually came out in like June. Glenn was a stickler at getting in there right away with something. Me, I'm more of a sit back and prepare and practice and get things ready kinda guy. He was like, "Hey, let's just go." The good thing about just goin', you get a little bit of experience of playing shows and stuff like that. But at the same time I think it distracted us from what we should've been working on. We should have sat down and said, hey, we'll work on the band this way, or we'll work on the band that way. But over the years it found its own way. Things will find their own way if they're not pushed in a certain direction. "Cough/Cool" was a tentative first step. It builds quietly from the simple pulse of Jerry's bass and Glenn's "electric sync piano," the gaps being filled up with Manny's complicated drum patterns as the song progresses. It has a dark, intriguing quality, but Danzig's silk and leather voice - somewhere between Elvis Presley and Jim Morrison - is the only part already in place in a record which sounds very different to what the Misfits would become. The B-side, "She," is a step closer, picking up the tempo and letting Jerry's thumping bass attack give the sparse sound some guts at the bottom end. Later a guitar track was added to "She," and it is this version which appears on the Legacy of Brutality album and The Misfits collection. 500 copies were pressed of the original single, though - as with all Misfits records - several bootleg versions exist. It caused barely a ripple on the New York punk landscape, but it was an interesting beginning. JO: We switched personnel immediately after the first single. Manny wound up being a drunk and not practicing. The thing was musically he and I didn't jell too much. I wasn't an experienced musician, so to say, but at the same time I knew what was cool to play and what sucked to play. Trying to play shit that's over your head, when your not good enough to pull it off, sucks. - y'know what I mean? But that was Manny's attitude, "Hey, let's do solo's...." I said, "Manny, I'm not interested in playing a fuckin' bass solo." I don't know if you've ever heard a bass solo, but they're very boring! (laughter) I mean, I like the bass, but I wouldn't want to sit there and sit though a bass solo, and I don't think there should be one just so there's a drum solo, if you catch what I mean! (laughter) So we blew off Manny and got this guy Mr. Jim. Then Glenn got off the keyboards and we brought in this guy Frank Lacotta, whose name is Franche Coma. MS: Who was Mr. Jim? JO: Jim Catania. He was from Lodi also. He was about the same age as Glenn in that area. Then what happened was, we had a label called blank records - if you ever notice, "Cough/Cool" came out on Blank. Immediately afterwards, Mercury Records came out with a Pere Ubu album and put it on a label that they called Blank. But we already had "Cough/Cool" out and nobody knew about it. So legally the release of "Cough/Cool" wound up binding us to the name, and put them in jeopardy of being sued by us - but we had no money to sue 'em! They came to a compromise where they would buy the name Blank from us for studio time. So we went in and recorded "Static," "TV Casualty," "Angel Fuck," "Bullet," "Teenagers From Mars" - a whole album. It was supposed to be called Static Age with thirteen cuts on it. The tracks which would've made up the aborted Static Age album showed the new, harder-edged Misfits as a band who could easily hold their own against - or even surpass their contemporaries. In particular, Glenn's creative songwriting and powerful, wide-ranging vocal dynamics (check out the incredible "Come Back" for example) set the Misfits apart from the pack. The songs "Static Age" and "TV Casualty" present frightening real-life portraits of the world, as seen thought the eyes of a new generation of children raised by the icy blue glow of the television and video screen - a theme that lay at the core of the Misfits' future direction as B-movie horror mutants. The horror obsession was already taking form in "Spinal Remains," "Return of the Fly" and, most importantly, an early version of "Teenagers From Mars," which portrayed them as nihilistic avenging invaders from outer space. Eight of the Static Age songs can be found on the 1986 Legacy of Brutality album, although clumsy remixing has obscured some of the group's power in a drum-heavy balance. This is particularly evident on the otherwise brilliant "Hybrid Moments," which should be sought out in its original form (on various boots) to fully appreciate its impact. However, the recordings do show that by the beginning of 1978 virtually all the pieces were already in place. JO: That stuff was ready to go when Blondie's first album was out, the Ramone's first or on the way to the second was out. That stuff was already recorded, but no-one understood what it was y'know what I mean? That was one of the problems with the band, was that we were too underground. MS: Yeah. If that would've come out then, you would've been at the forefront. JO: Well, the thing was, if it would've come out then, everything would've moved up five years. We would've been the forerunners of the new scene, instead of the new scene happening in '87, y'know? That was the main problem with our band, that we didn't focus and get somebody to sit down and look at the imagery. But, y'know, we were a band and we were having a good time, and we could give a fuck, y'know? (laughter) So basically, that was the problem with it. We had some really great stuff ready to go at the same time like Generation X's first album came out, but we didn't get an album out 'til '82, and then it came out on Slash, and they were pushing Fear at the time. What happened was our thing went right down the tubes. It's unfortunate, but the Misfits was doomed to drop out once we didn't get that first project out the door - which is why, in a lot of ways, I'm taking my time the second time around. The 4-song Bullet EP (on the band's own Plan 9 label - after Plan 9 from Outer Space, natch) was, in a way, the Misfits' real debut, consolidating their transformation from the subtle art-punk sound of "Cough/Cool" into a roaring, high-speed, guitar driven punk rock band somewhere between the Ramones and the early Damned. Every song is top notch: "Bullet," an incredible sex and death fantasy about the JFK assassination set to the fury of a gale-force hurricane; the stomping, anthemic "We Are 138"; "Hollywood Babylon," a sinuous, mood-drenched look at the evil side of Hollywood, inspired by Kenneth Anger's book, and the snotty, threatening "Attitude," with the band proving they could employ melody, and even harmony, without danger of being called "pop". MS: Not long after Bullet the horror image really started, right? JO: Yes, as a matter of fact it came in right between Bullet and Horror Business. That's when I came up with the devilock thing. MS: How'd you come up with that? JO: Well, at the time when Horror Business was released, I had thus electric blue hair - not the sissy turquoise color, it was like brand new denim jeans! (laughs) It was really slick. So I had this thing, my hair started to grow. What happened was, as it got longer I just kept messin' with it, so I did this wave thing with it - this tidal wave do. And as it got longer it just grew down the front. Then we did our hair black and that was it! Once we got this "Horror Business" thing, all of a sudden we had an identity. We looked good, and all of a sudden the sound was right. MS: What did you use to keep the devilock in place? Hairspray? JO: Some hairspray, but in the end I would up using Vaseline, 'cos the hairspray was really burnin' my eyes. MS: In between Bullet and Horror Business you got Bobby Steele and Joey Image. What was the change? How did it happen? JO: The change was that we picked up two local boys from the city who were more into the scene. We went on the road with Frank and he couldn't handle the road; it was beyond him. He didn't wanna go on the road, and when he did he freaked, so we couldn't count on him as a perpetual thing - sorta "Oh yeah, I expect to be touring with Frank twenty years from now" - 'cos you couldn't go down the street with him without goin' nuts! (laughs) So eventually we had to do something about that. At the time I was grooming my brother. My brother Doyle used to roadie for me. So what happened there was later, when Doyle was ready, we brought him in. 'Cos Doyle was playin' with our band when he was in 8th grade - he's younger than me, y'know? MS: After you got Bobby and Joey, it was pretty quick that you did the Horror Business EP? JO: Well, that was '78; we banged out a lot of stuff in a short amount of time. I had to come up with the money for all this stuff - that's what hurts. I had to get the band financially off the ground; there was no other source of money. None of the other jerks that played with the band could come up with the money. MS: You were financing the records and all that? JO: Yeah. I sacrificed a lot to make the band happen. I could've been dumpin' my money on things for me, instead of things for the band. But I guess you learn your lesson the hard way, y'know? By early 1979, when the Horror Business EP was released, the evolution of their ghoulish B-movie image and furious yet tuneful punk sound was complete. The EP was their strongest performance to date, featuring three compelling songs; the treacherous, careening title track, which featured imagery from Hitchcock's Psycho ("You don't go in the bathroom with me...I'll put a knife right in you"); a new, faster, tougher "Teenagers From Mars"; and the desperate "Children in Heat." According to the record's insert: "On February 28, 1979, the Misfits and a mobile recording unit entered an abandoned haunted house in northern New Jersey. They recorded and left. While mixing the tapes back at a NYC recording studio, strange voices and noises were heard in the background. No explanation of these sounds could be given by the band or recording crew." I asked Jerry the story behind the haunted recording session... MS: So Horror Business - that was recorded in a haunted house? JO: That's shit! (laughter) MS: What's the story behind that then. JO: What happened was, there was a weird sound on there, and we didn't know where the hell it came from. So we said, "What are we gonna do? Are we gonna remix it?" I said, "Well, I don't got no more money. This is it. You gotta like what you got." We thought about it, and we thought, we don't want everybody to think we're a bunch of jerks. So I think I mentioned it, "Let's just say it was recorded in a haunted house. Everybody'll love that!" (laughter) MS: I kinda expected there was an element of bullshit involved.! JO: Well, there actually was weird shit on there. We were just covering up for that. MS: You mean the noises at the end of "Teenagers From Mars"? JO: Yeah, might be. It sounds weird. I don't even remember exactly what it was, but that was my answer to the problem, rather than giving more money to do it again. MS: I heard Glenn claims he played guitar on that record? JO: According to what I heard, Glenn goes around telling everybody that he re-recorded all the tracks on the guitar so he can say he doesn't owe anybody any money. Now on "Horror Business" you may be right 'cos I don't know if Bobby knew how to play it. He may have, but Glenn's not a really good guitar player, to be honest with you. He can fake his way through a Buddy Holly song or something like that, but as far as being a guitar player, he's not. He comes up with some halfway decent chords that are offbeat, like the beginning of "Earth A.D." and shit like that. But he's not a good guitar player. So there was a point down the road where Glenn was going, "Oh, I'm going back into the studio to re-record everybody's guitars and everybody's basses." Why? Has he got nothin' better to do? MS: Well, you'd be able to tell if he re-did your bass parts, right? JO: I heard one that he claimed... and I heard my bass right on there, so I know that's just a lot of shit. But my lawyer says it doesn't matter what he does. He can shit on the tapes if he wants, so... you know what I mean? (laughter) It's past history, so he can do whatever he wants. MS: What happened between Horror Business and Night of the Living Dead? JO: Pretty much dead wood, local gigs. At the time we were in the scene - what would be like the New York punk scene. Between projects and between big gigs, there's lot's of running around. Your going out to clubs and seeing other bands. Your hangin' here, your hangin' there. Everybody would go see the Clash if they came to town, or the Jam. That was pretty much our boppin' around time. That's when we had Bobby and Joey in the band. They were local boys, they used to hang around the city all the time. You didn't have to drag them out to go out; you'd run into them. MS: When this was goin' on, you guys were still workin' day jobs? JO: Oh yeah. Except Glenn. Glenn Doesn't work, he never did. That was one of the problems we had too. The thing was, he wouldn't have respect for what anyone was doing, because he didn't know what it was to get the fuck out to work. ||||That's it for this week. Check next tuesday as we continue the story. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % You cannot sedate, all the things you hate * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 15:16:35 -0500 (EST) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: The be all end all First I would like to throw my hat into the ring on the Glenn arguments. I hat reading these posts but I think I can clear some things up for a few people. Its not that those of us hate Glenn or his music, it is his attitude towards the misfits. Many of us love the misfits and glenn does not even want us around. Jerry, Doyle, and the others greet us with open arms. They appreciate us. If you read the back bibles you will see that as the bible grows so does Jerry, so the idea that this is a feeble attempt to re-live glory days is absurd. Jerry and the guys are doing this because we wanted this. That is allot better than denying us and resenting us. We give Glenn our support, our money, and he could show some courtesy. Now I still love Glenns music but as far as how he is to this whole concept of the Misfits, he is not a nice guy. Ive seen Glenn in concertand I think there isnt a better person to his fans in that respect. On the other and Jerry and the guys are helping us. If Glenn hates Bootlegs then he should have released the stuff a long time ago. Jerry and the guys are doing just that (boxed set) and I for one and very grateful. Glenn just seems to cut off his nose to spite his face, when it comes to the Misfits. Also look at the time and work Mark has put into the page and no post's or nothing from Glenn. DRod ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:07:47 -0500 From: She Subject: Join The Fiend Club! THE BOX SET SIGNING ------------------- Jerry gave me these directions from the New Jersey Turnpike: take Lincoln Tunnel into New York City go South on either 7th or 9th St take Bleecker Street to Thompson St take Thompson St north towards Washington Square Generation Records is located at 210 Thompson St in Greenwich Village The Misfits will be at the signing from midnight 2/26 until 2am 2/27. That's just 2 hours, so don't be late. Also, depending on how many fiends are planning on attending, Jerry has expressed interest in having a sort of Misfits Bible dinner at a nearby restaurant/hang out place. Details must be worked out. THE FIEND CLUB -------------- Plans have been changed slightly. The Fiend Club will be having a mass mailing shortly before the band leaves for Europe. The plan is to have everyone who has joined the fan club so far receive this mailing. For this reason, we need to get all the addresses to Jerry ASAP. Anyone who has not already written to the PO BOX 310 address, please send me your name, address, and phone number, and I will send Jerry my list by this Friday. Please do this as soon as possible. Jerry wants the master list completed in about 2 weeks. Those who join the Fiend Club after this mass mailing will receive it a bit later. NEW SINGLES AND MERCHANDISE --------------------------- Jerry would like to begin making singles that will be sold only at shows or directly by the band. This way, the fans can get something special at a better price. He recently contacted Pushead about making sleeve artwork for the proposed "Black Light" single. Unfortunately, Pushead refuses to cooperate, because of earlier mishaps with Glenn. Therefore, Jerry contaced Rawhead, an up-and-coming artist, whose stuff is similar to Pushead's. Jerry hopes to get some studio time soon and record these songs, so the singles can be sold on the Europe tour. The Misfits will be leaving for Europe on March 10th, so if you order shirts or models around that time, don't be surprised if it takes them a long time to get to you. The band is doing everything by hand - they sell the shirts, do the fan club, and will be making these singles themselves. THE TOUR -------- More information has finally come in about the tour. The band will now be performing in France and Spain as well, although these dates have not yet been worked out. US bands Sardonica and The Goops will also be opening for The Misfits. In May, The Misfits will probably be heading to Japan and may also tour in New Zealand and Australia. That will leave four months for the tour of the United States, after which the band will perform a special show in New York City on Halloween and then head into the studio to record the new album. Along with the usual Misfits songs, they will also be performing the following songs on the tour: "Black Light" (recently written by Michale about vampires) "The Haunting" (a new song about a criminal whose consience gets to him so bad after his crimes, that he wishes for the death penalty) "Dr. Phibes Rides Again" (the still unreleased Kryst The Conqueror tune) "Spellbound" (from the Kryst The Conqueror EP. As mentioned before, it will be shortened by about a minute) The updated tour list: March 12 - Music Box Edinburgh, Scotland March 13 - Foundry Birmingham, England March 14 - Leicester Univsersity Leicester, England March 15 - Rio Bradford, England March 16 - off March 17 - London Astoria London, England March 18 - off March 19 - Melkweg Amsterdam, Holland March 20 - Kicks Herford, Germany March 21 - Rohre Stuttgart, Germany March 22 - Charterhalle Emunchen, Germany March 23 - Capital Berlin, Germany March 24 - Hamburg Fabrik Hamburg, Germany March 25 - off March 26 - Germany/Scandinavia March 27 - France March 28 - Spain March 29 - off March 30 - Spain March 31 - France April 1 - Spain/France EUROPEAN FIENDS --------------- Jerry is still hoping to be able to give fiends in Europe the chance to help out at the shows and see the band for free. At this moment, Johnathan Grimm is making promotional passes that the band will mail out to fiends in Europe. For each show, Jerry wants me to select a sort of ring-leader who will receive the promotional passes and distribute them to all the people who are on the list. This will take some amount of responsibility on the part of the selected ring-leader. If you are interested in taking this responsibility for your city, please email me. Also, Jerry wants to do interviews with local fanzines. He's not interested in talking to major publications such as "Kerrang!", but he would like to do interviews with anyone who can spread the word of their return. Therefore, if you know of a fanzine that might be interested in interviewing the band, e-mail me, and they will also be added to the guest list. Anyone who has written to me about helping the band in Europe so far, please send me your address and phone numbers, just in case. That list includes: Stewart G, Peter Moeller, Julian Baldry, Mark Condick, Wayne M THE "MOMMY, CAN THE MISFITS SPEND THE NIGHT?" TOUR -------------------------------------------------- Jerry has special plans for the tour of the United States. In order to spend time with fans and cut down costs on tickets/merchandise/etc the band plans to spend the nights after shows at the homes of fiends instead of in hotel rooms. This is the way the band did it in the old days. This way, they'll be able to hit all the regular towns, as well as smaller, usually-ignored areas. Anyone who is seriously interested in having The Misfits perform in their town and spend the night at their home must be able to accomodate the following: 10-12 visitors: This will include the four Misfits, their manager/organizer Kenny, the four guys from Sardonica, and 2-3 tour helpers that may include Corey (the T-shirt guy) and Johnathan Grimm. These guys will be tired, hungry, and they'll need to take showers. A tour bus: They will need to be able to park their bus somewhere nearby. A kitchen with stove and refrigerator: They will need somewhere to cook and store food temporarily. The basic idea is for the band to have somewhere to sit down, eat some macaroni, hang out for a little while and then get to sleep early. They have no interest in partying, getting drunk, or doing drugs. They just need somewhere crash for the night so they can get up and give their 110% playing effort for the next crowd. Those who want to help out the band this way should send the following to the band: 1) The name/address/phone number of a nearby club or clubs that the band can contact to schedule a show. They are interested in playing small locations that can hold anywhere from 800-1500 people. 2) your name/address/phone number 3) An explanation of how you will accomodate the band members, the tour bus, etc... along with little things like how many towels you have and how big your place is. 4) Permission - You must be 100% sure that you have permission to do this. We don't want somebody's mom kicking everyone out at the last minute. I think this is a great idea. Imagine having The Misfits spend the night at your house... RANDOM BITS ----------- After the Coney Island show, Michale and Chud wrote a joke song called "Overcharged and Underpaid" about the experience they had with the club. Basically, the club ripped off the fans ($20 tickets) and ruined the plans the band had for that night. This is not a Misfits song, but it will be made available to us somehow. As you can see, the band is doing as much as they can by hand. They are doing everything they can to avoid the bureaucracy of major labels and trying to deliver quality products directly from the band to the fans. Please be patient with them and don't expect too much out of them. When you write to the band, they do read your mail, but they don't have the time to respond to everyone. They appreciate all the help the fans have given them so far. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:15:39 -0600 From: Jaime Obergfell Subject: PAUL HANN I agree with what you said about not judging the fits by old standards, but what i ment was that punk now is not punk and anyone will tell you the same.just because Green Day and all these other bands have jumped on the punk bandwagon doesn't mean that the fits have to do the same.look at bands like KISS.aside from the fits they are my favorite.people may argue but KISS now sucks!that doesnt mean that i like them any less it just means that their old stuff is alot better.im sure that they changed because time changed.if a band has a style that is good they shuldnt change it just because different styles come into fashion.look at the glam scene.remember when it was big?bands like faster pussycat instead of changing into grunge called it quits.i respect them more for that than if they decided to go punk.this argument can go on forever and i respect you point of view,but i dont agree with it.just think to yourself one thing look at all the bands from way back and see how popular their new stuff is and then look at their old stuff and see what is better.ex.(bad com.,rolling stones,kiss,green day,rancid,pink floyd,etc.)what most band do and i speak from experience is they find a style or a sound that works and instead of sticking with it they change.nothing wrong with change.but what would you think if the fits came out with an albulm filled with cheesy love ballads.sound proposterous?not really really look at Metallica.theyre great and i still like them but when i saw kill 'em all i thought that this band will never have ballad,i was wrong and they are popular, this i admit,but i would much rather hear the hardcore rock then "i dub they unforgiven" in conclusion i think that if the fits style changes im sure it will be good.but all im saying is i hope it has the same feeling and catchyness that the orignial stuff had one thing that stuck out about them to me,is the way they could stick a fuck in a place where it wasnt expected and it sounded good.i hope that doesnt change i mean im not a fan of filthy music but i thought that it was cool.if they change and it betters them as a band and us as fans then there wont be a problem.well just have to wait.ths of course is my opion and i dont speak for others,so i might be totally wrong.please respond. ------------------------------ From: ponuczko@connect.ab.ca Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 19:11:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: issue 138 story in early >From: ponuczko@connect.ab.ca > Hey their fiends! I don't know how many of you guys are still in high school, but I am and I have been locked up in my room studying hard for my Social 30 and Bio 30 Diploma Exams (I need to do good on them so I can get into university like a lot of you guys already are). It started out as 15 min a night but as they come closer I have sort of cut myself off from the rest of the world only stopping to sleep, eat, and read the bible. Since I barely have time to read the bible I have also not been able to contribute to it. But since the 138th issue is approaching I thought that I should take some time to share my story about how I became a Misfits fan. One day in 1993 I was watching Power 30 on Much Music. I saw the Mother '93 video and I loved it. The next day at the bus stop I talked about the video with my friend who I knew would have been watching Power 30 at the same time and we both started ranting and raving about Danzig. We thought that it was so awesome that after school we took the bus downtown and each bought the Thrall-Demonsweatlive C.D. For the rest of grade 8 we were the only two Danzig fans in the school. When Guns 'N Roses released their Spaghetti Incidient C.D. we were quickly informed by almost everybody who bought the C.D. that Glenn Danzig wrote of the songs so we immediately bought the C.D and that is when I first found out about the Misfits. So I checked all the music stores for the Misfits and began buying the ever so expensive Misfits C.D's. It wasn't until I got into High School that I found out by someone who noticed me wearing Misfits and Danzig T Shirts all the time that Samhain existed. The Misfits were totally different from Danzig but never the less they had the same aura about them that Danzig had. I now realize what this aura was: it is his voice and his lyrical genius. In my opinion, and my opinion only, it is these two distinct features that make the Misfits, Danzig, and Samhain as powerful and appealing to me as they are. I think that without Glenn Danzig behind the mike the Misfits would be just another punk band, Samhain would have never existed and Danzig would have not been the same at all. I think that cover songs are awesome because they are a sort of a tribute to the original band that preformed them and have liked all the ones that I have heard. But if Attitude was an original Guns 'N Roses song it wouldn't be as awesome as a song as it is being a Misfits song. I'm not sure if this makes sense to anybody out there and if it dosen't I'm sorry for wasting your time but this is how it all happened. A few other things: Stewart Gallacher I have changed my e-mail address to ponuczko@connect.ab.ca and was wondering if you could pleas send me your e-mail address again because my dad erased our address book with everybody's e-mail address in it and I would like it again. To anybody who knows: I was looking through the C.D's in the music store and they finally had the Damned in stock. I was looking at some of thier song titles and was wondering if anybody knew if the song "Plan 9 Channel 7" is Misfits related at all? I didn't have any money at the time and wanted to know beforehand if it had any relation. I was also wondering if anybody knew if there was a release date on the Danzig V album yet and if there is WHEN IS IT!!!? I recently got the G.O.T.H.(Gov't Operation Total Hatered) from Verotik and it is a very cool one, if you like that kind of stuff (I sure do). I would also strongly reccomend getting the Death Dealer comic, I liked that one the best. Does anybody know if Danzig is going to release another Black Aria type C.D. based on the Death Dealer comic for sure? I remember reading about this in a previous issue way back and was wondering if anybody had heard anything new. I am very sad that my poster from Verotik didn't come in. I have a funny feeling that it didn't make it across the Canada/US border. It was the one titled: "Heroes come and Heroes go but demons are forever" and I was really looking forward to hanging it up on my wall with all those "Skulls". In response to someone in issue 135 (Adam I think) I haven't yet sent away my dad's credit card number to Vinyl Ink records to order the Box Set but I plan on faxing it by the time tuesday comes around so yes I have. I plan on trying out the new IRC channel after I write my exams and feel no more pressure but until then Happy Studying to all who have to. Scott Onuczko ponuczko@connect.ab.ca ------------------------------ From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCONO" Subject: Spook City USA....... Date: Sun, 21 Jan 96 22:33:00 PST I'm new to this so if anything is wrong, sorry. Anyway I was reading that people were having a hard time finding Spook City USA, and therefore a lot of people have not heard it. I've got a copy of it, and if anybody out there wants a copy (FREE, just provide the cassette) get a hole of me via e-mail at jeanc@bncc.holloman.af.mil Later - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:38:05 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: IRC #misfits OK fiends on to another very kewl topic. There's been some talk on the list lately about the irc channel #misfits. All I can say is it has my seal of approval. I checked it out for the first time last week and have been in the ervy night since. It's a blast, topics on the channel range from the totally absurd to the downright serious. Someone is always there later at night after 9:00 pm est. Sunday night we were discussing the possibility of a Bible forum. Like say Thursday nights in which alot of fiends get together and discuss the bible, Misfits, Glenn etc... I think it might cut down on some ongoing threads that seem to annoy some people, we could just resolve issues in real time. To use IRC you must have a SLIP/PPP connection or a shell account, You can use compuserve as a ppp connection I forget how there's a FAQ available somewhere. AOL & Prodigy people are out of luck. If you use Windows download mIRC it's fairly easy to use. for those that get as far as that set the server name to us.undernet.org and try to log on, if you get on type /join #misfits and have fun. if you'd like to meet the people that frequent this channel check out: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html If your having problems getting your irc client configured leave email for |20eyes| from the above page. He controls the channel and is an all around great fiend. There's a few regulars in the channel but we need more, so come on in. It gets a little boring when there's only a couple of people in there but when there's alot look out. -->Teevie - sorry I missed you the other night I read the log from the session and it looked like alot of fun. to many sigs in this issue already-----C.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:25:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Bad Ninja Subject: comments... bengl@interserv.com wrote : >Theres been a big movement lately in which old punk bands get back together and >play shows and stuff. Well, I wouldn't really call it a movement... MAybe there were 4-5 of them , not exactly a *movement*. >Some of them play in local underground clubs for 5 bucks a >pop and some of im (the ramones for instince) charge more than $50 bucks to see >them. The Ramones *never* did split up in order to reform... And as far as I know, they've been playing in Greece and the UK (where I've seen them a few times) almost every year and the price was about $15 or less. Talking of the Ramones, It's a shame they're calling quits in a few months. I, for one, will be sad. Anyway, I'll be looking forward to the Misfits tour of the UK! FLEX : I guess my mail has never reached you, since it bounced back... Anyway, when I find some time I'd like to send some reviews (I'll let you know first). Yannis ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Thank You's and Fuck You's Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:03:56 -0500 (EST) First of all I would like to thank L.MArcello for helping me out me my conquest for old horror flics . I will be writing Video wasteland soon and I will be sure to say that you referred me to them. I am extremely pissed off at this asshole called "Transmania 501" In the last issue he said this " The new misfits is a sad attempt to relive past glories that weren't glories in the first place" Then he went on to say that jerry and doyle are nothing but a bunch of leeches. This guy is obviosly some trendy wanna-be that first discovered danzig after seeing the mother video off of thrall-demonsweatlive. If you want to see a " Sad attempt to relive past glories" then just look at that video and the fact that the song was already so fucking old when It finally made it to PC MTV. Y Transmania then probably found out about the misfits after hearing metallica's garage days version of last carress. Then he thought " golly gee, these guys sure are a great novelty act, but glenn sure is better now" Listen up transmania, or whatever the hell your name is, JERRY AND DOYLE ARE THE MISFITS AND NOBODY NEEDS GLEN AND HIS SHITTY ATTITUDE so why don't you just give it up and listen to green gay or something else that you must consider to be a "true glory" A true fiend, Adam Seven n d doyle are ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 19:15:30 EST From: Ken Graf Subject: 138 quickly approaching Hey kids, what's up? Back from vacation and fucking psyched about issue 138. Anyway, before the issue comes out, I have a question that myself and perhaps some others need answered as well. Sorry if it's a stupid question, but what is the significance of the # 138? Just wondering. Also, a few years back, I wrote a short play called Glenn's Bakery. The idea was sparked from a line in the song Devil's Plaything. "If you don't want to pay, you don't understand.." To me, it sounded like he said "If you don't want a pie..." Anyway, my twisted little mind turned this one line into a hilarious parody of the song complete with a whole script to accompany it. That was then. Now a new story has emerged. Glenn's Bakery II. It is an allegory of what is going on right now between Glenn and Jerry. It involves Jerry opening a bakery across the street from Glenn with the name Buffy's bakery. Buffy's used to be the name of Glenn's bakery when Glenn and Jerry were partners in baking and now Glenn does not want Jerry to sell his delicious home baked bread under the name Buffy's. Anyway, you got the idea. Please let me know in the next issue if you want to see Glenn's Bakery II in issue 138. Or, if ya think it's a stupid idea, let me know that also. Just include it somwwhere in your post. Don't worry, it's not very long and it is pretty funny. Just to add some humor to the issue rather than the usual, just for one issue, of course. Let me know. Also, answer my other quedtion if anyone knows about 138. Thanx!! ---Ken ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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The Fiend Club ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wastedgn@kbbs.kbbsnet.com Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:43:14 -0800 Subject: Misfits Bible, #136 For the sake of Punk Rock, I don't think Johnny Rotten would have a Sex Pistols reunion. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:10:38 +0200 (EET) From: Tuomo Lindholm Subject: Hey Ho Fiends ! So this is my first letter to the bible, so far so good. I was wondering if the Misfits are coming to anywhere at scandinavia at their european tour. I mean like some Midsummer festivals or some spring parties. In Finland there should be lot's of fans waiting for them, including me too. So are there any more "official live"'s than EVILIVE. And if there are where to get them, I am also really interested about some bootlegs and stuff. Could it be possible to have my Misfits record signatured through mail ? Like sending them to Fiend Club and then get them back as signed ? I know that it's kinda difficult but it would really be worth it. |----------------------------------------------------| |Tuomo Lindholm | GigeR #Europe | |----------------------------------------------------| |Ahmatie 13 |danzig@tlti.tokem.fi | |Fin-95440 Kylajoki |http://www.tokem.fi/~danzig | |FINLAND | | |----------------------------------------------------| "Do you belive ? We don't care !" "WOUND" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 00:58:47 EST From: AFNF12A@prodigy.com (MS VERONICA L CRENSHAW) Subject: neurotic boy outsiders -- [ From: Tim & Veronica Crenshaw * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- this is totally misfits unrelated, i guess. it was a show i had the pleasure of seeing a couple of weeks ago, and i thought that i would relate it all to you. the neurotic boy outsiders is a band that consists of: steve jones of the sex pistols john taylor of duran duran matt of g-n-r duff of g-n-r duff played second guitar by the way. it was a way fucking cool concert at one of portland oregons smaller clubs called the la luna. it holds a couple thousand tops, but on this night, 5 to 8 hundred. they were all so close you could touch um', if ya wanted to do that type of thing. steve, duff, and john all took turns singing, but it was easy to tell it was steves band. he did 90% of the singing. they are all talented musicians. matt is one of the most talented drummers ive ever seen. and ive seen shit loads of drummers. from ian paice to eric carr. chalie benante to reed mullin. but matt could pound those skins!! john taylor came out in a dress and panty hose, not that im suprised. i guess hes doing things he couldnt get away with in duran duran. duff was his usually skinny half dead self. although, so was john taylor. time to get off the junk guys. steve was his totally classy self. after this show i went out and hunted down his last album. come to find its produced by ian ashbury of the cult. and has axl rose as a guest on the album. its kind of 80's but hey thats what i am. there album comes out in february and it should rock hard. two thumbs up. did anybody see leno just before christmas with billy idol?? he was in a band with matt and duff and steve stevens?? he said he was in the neurotic outsiders. i went hoping to see billy, and was a little disappointed. o-well, i still had a blast. the neurotic boy outsiders jam!!! until later.....tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 08:06:37 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hatcher Subject: RE: talk show on Thu, 18 Jan 1996 Drslfin@aol.com wrote: > ... This forum that should be used to support the > band that we all happen to like is being turned into Geraldo... Hey, maybe we could set up some rules for Glen-bashing and Jerry/Doyle-bashing. Next issue, only the boyfriends of bisexual women who married their fathers can participate in the bashing. :) Seriously, I am getting SICK of hearing all this shit. If it is an intellectual argument with some sort of substance, I can read it whether or not I agree (BTW I'm not going to put my views on Glen vs. Jerry/Doyle because I don't want to fall into that trap). But the thing that I'm sick of is people who just say "Glen is an asshole" or "Jerry and Doyle suck". Don't you have anything more to say than that? At least give good reasons why. For those of you who do actually back up your bashing with an intelligent argument, my apologies... this doesn't apply to you. OK, enough bandwith has been wasted on this thread already. I'm going to stop now. Chris Hatcher aka. LordB ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 01:44:38 -0500 Subject: comments Re: Nos. 134 & 135: Thanks to Transmania501, EvilDieff, Osito666, Brett Fama & (in a previous issue) EVB for their posts. I've wanted to say those things for quite some time. I'm REALLY tired of certain people bashing Glenn and telling us what his motivations are when, in reality, these people actually have no clue as to what motivates him. Come to think of it, I seriously doubt that they've ever even met the man. Mark, in issue #134 you said: "Anyway, Bobby is a really nice guy, and just because the Misfits don't like him doesn't mean it's okay to badmouth him. Okay Everybody? I've gotten a lot of email about Bobby Steele and it's very obvious that the people who email me have never actually met him." I commend you on the above comment Mark. Objectivity is good, especially when it extends to all those whom you don't know personally. Crimson Ghost: I know that you don't particularly like Glenn--we've heard your opinions on that point ad nauseum--however I would like to point out that he signed some photos of the Misfits for me (in one of Rollins' books). According to your theory, he should have refused as it wasn't his "product" and he wouldn't make any money. Sorry, you're wrong on that point. PDH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:59:58 -0500 (EST) From: eRiC sNoOk Subject: Damn it all... On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 > From: ponuczko@connect.ab.ca > Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 19:11:38 -0700 (MST) > Subject: issue 138 story in early > > >From: ponuczko@connect.ab.ca > > > Hey their fiends! > To anybody who knows: > > I was looking through the C.D's in the music store and they finally had the > Damned in stock. I was looking at some of thier song titles and was > wondering if anybody knew if the song "Plan 9 Channel 7" is Misfits related > at all? I didn't have any money at the time and wanted to know beforehand > if it had any relation. > > Scott Onuczko > ponuczko@connect.ab.ca Both the Misfits and the Damned are making reference to the movie "Plan 9 From Outerspace" written/produced/directed by Ed Wood Jr. and stars "Vampira" and Tor Johnson. The movie is pretty darn terrible... Speaking of the Damned, the song "Plan 9 Channel 7" is on the "Machine Gun Ettiqutte" album which is really good. For all the discussion way back when about Dave Vanian singing for the new Misfits, I have to agree that it would have been cool. If you doubt it, just fish out yer copy of "Rabid [Over You]" and stop laughing. Dave can croon with an eerie voice without every having to do those: "Heeeeeeah, Woooooahh" that Danzig is famous for. Don't get me wrong, I like Danzig, but those "Heeeeah Woooaaaaah"'s are much more Heavy Metal than goth/punk/horror/whateverthefuckthemisfitsare sound... Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 13:44:51 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: IRC Yeah, the #misfits channel is pretty damn fun once a lotta people show up. It was a pretty crowded room last Saturday... we all changed our /nicknames to various Misfits' or ex-Fits' names and kicked off the tour right there over the internet. I couldn't tell who was who, but it was a goddam blast. I laughed like an asshole a hell of a lot. Hopefully more people will drop by when they have some spare time. Check out the web page if you need help finding the channel. So, does anybody know how relations are between Jerry/Doyle and Bobby Steele? I presume bygones are bygones, since Bobby's been showing up at conventions, etc... just wondering if maybe "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" or if they actually enjoy seeing one another... Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 13:51:51 -0600 (CST) From: gerry blaylock Subject: jfj i was thinking that we should make some kind of price list for misfits related stuff so people won't get ripped off buying original vinyl. i'd really like ot know what a good price should be on a lot of stuff. gerry blaylock ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:50:13 -0500 Subject: stuff mark: i figure franche did help work some of the songs out, as did every member of the misfits at one time or another, that's just being in a band. but, i was just saying nobody ever mentions them, just jerry and doyle. i mean glenn does get all the credit but, it would be impossable for evey song by the misfits, every aspect, arrangment, etc. to be totaly written by glenn alone. i think if somebody is going to recognize other contributions to the music, you should not forget to mention the other members. i'm sure jerry had the most input, next to glenn though. crimson ghost: yes, this is a discussion group and you're entitled to your opinion, as is eveyone on here. if that's your opinion, that's fine with me. and you may very well be right. i don't know. i can't think of any explaination why he wouldn't sign it so i can't shed any light on that. but, i suppose your post sounded as if it were fact. me, being a fan of just about all of glenn's music, may have a shaded view on the matter, which is puzzling me. i don't know why he won't won't sign it, and i don't see any reason why he won't. if he wanted the correct lyrics in there, he should've corrcted them. as far as i know he didn't so that sounds like a poor reason, as well as the color, or layout, it seems that he would've had some say on that. all i know now is i hope he doesn't cause a problem with the box set, i hope the samhain box set comes out before my kids can buy it and i'm curious to hear the new danzig album. especialy hand of doom. i love that song. i noticed the name c.h.u.d. in the back of a verotic comic, pretty ironic. also, does anyone know what the hell is on the cover of the night of the living dead album? i have no idea, does anyone else?! i've rambled enough for now. thanks for your attention. EvilDon Dieffenbach "...i'm sailing on..." the bad brains ------------------------------ From: Z95013301@acs.saultc.on.ca Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:58:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Commenting from file X-Personal_name: sean From: Subject: video I would like to see vidoes done by the Misfits, Samhain, Undead and Danzig. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:49:29 -0600 From: Jaime Obergfell Subject: END THE FIGHT!!! ok for all of you im included lets please end this damn danzig fight and concentrate on the new tour and shit like that.CG was right all some of you are doing is looking at someones post and trying to make a fight out of it.some of you guys just have a 20 ft shit stirring stick and it needs to be dropped!!!!!!please for the sake of this page and the people who love it so.if it wasnt for this page i would never have gotten a call form jerry.so please respect it and quit picking fights. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 20:50:02 -0500 From: She Subject: M Bible Dinner Okay fiends, we should start organizing this Misfits Bible dinner, so we have something to convince Jerry and Doyle to come to. Basically it should probably take place around 9-10pm so that it's not too late and not too early. Also we don't want to get out of control, so it would make sense to limit it to bible members only... or something. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 01:58:16 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: last issue > Danzig? I'm not bashing anyone for their loyalty, but I am a Misfits fan and > yes also a Danzig fan, and any bad blood between Glen and The Misfits in the **THIS IS NOT A 'FLAME"......but as far as I know there is no such person as "Glen" Danzig. Two "N's". (hmm I guess from a legal sense there is no such person as Glenn Danzig either, since Glenn never changed his surname from that of birth...) (from Mark): > Glenn's side appears here often, whenever people like Brett Fama or EVB I'm honoured to be in such company, though I doubt I'm qualified. BTW thanks for not referring to me as "B.M. Fama" as my university e-mail address autonatically i.d.'s me. I just think it sounds stupid (although the name "Brett" ain't much better). > First of all, I think it's great that Bobby stands up for what he believes > in. Second, he has 2 reasons for being anti-smoking: > 1) He has a respiration problem. If you smoke near him, you're just putting > him to death and making it hard for him to perform, or even talk. > 2) He thinks it's hilarious that so many of these 'rebellious punk types' > (and this mailing list is full of them) are selling themselves out to > the government and all the corporations that they supposedly despise > by buying into the tobacco industry. > > We had a lengthy discussion about this and he ridiculed smokers. I've never met Bobby, but I like him already. Law #1 if I ever become dictator of North America: death to tobacco smokers, producers, traffickers, etc etc. (If any of you don't like it, your death will only be slower and much more painful) > And finally, Peter Moeller, I've added you to the list for Jerry. oh yeah Mark did you get the message I sent via my dad's account? > Subject: english lesson while we're marking each others' posts for grammar and speelling, I noticed many incorrect spellings of "argument" lately. No "e" after the "u". > From: JZOMBIE66@aol.com > Subject: DEMON I AM AND FACE I FEEL... peel...as in banana. If you want I'll e-mail you lyrics, but 100 others probably also offered, so let me know. I think a lot of the EAD lyrics on the page are wrong, but I have no better suggestions (although luckily the lyrics to "Mommy" were on WAU). > From: Crimson Ghost > I for one don't recall anyone calling Brett immature. He called himself a > 17? y.o. "little bastard", which I took as a pretty humourous comment. Age 19 > has nothing to do with shit on this list. Oh btw Brett: I said I respected > you, which might be misleading. You deemed it worthy to semi-flame me. Of sorry if that's how it came across > course I don't respect you as a whole I do not know you. That doesn't mean I > cannot respect you as a worthy adversary, based upon what you write. On the "worthy adversary"?? jeeez, I feel like I should be wearing armour and mounting a horse or something...ok, no, that's cool. Like you said before, we often disagree, but...so what! This list would suck if no one ever did. > From: wallace836@vegas.email.net > Subject: All Songs By.../Bootlegs > simple as those styles were. Anyone who has heard Samhain/Danzig versions of > All Hell/London Dungeon/Marylin knows that this is the case. They are still > the same songs, but their TEXTURE are completly different. I'm not implying okay I know I said I'd steer clear of this thread, but I can't resist here. But don't worry this has little to do with who wrote what in the Misfits.. Anyway, what I have to say is that the Samhain versions of Misfits songs are not really the same songs; other than the words, little else is the same. Compare S's Halloween II to the original, and they sound VERY different, likewise with Horrror Biz. Glenn pretty-well rewrote the whole songs, or at least added many different arrangements (like in All Hell). Oddly enough, although I generally prefer the Misfits to Samhain, I actually like the Samhain versions Misfits songs better than the originals (except maybe All Hell). Horror Biz sounds more catchy than the orginal, and the Samhain Hallowen II sound smore powerful, evil, whatevr... but that's just my take. BTW someone said no one on the Bible would buy the Samhain box set...I sure fucking will, Samhain is amazing! > closest thing to GOOD that I heard was my Samhain Kockey club boot...but you > could barely hear the guitars. Anyone else think Glenn's vocals don't hold > up that well in concert? go buy Thrall-Demonsweatlive and listen to the choruses and second verse of Sistinas, and then tell us what you think. BTW that has almost NO overdubs. I wish they'd put out live cuts of Blood and Tears, Killer Wolf, or Heart of the Devil, as these were the best theree when I first saw them in '93. > From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu > Subject: next danzig > > released in early 1996? Did he finnish recording the damn > thing that quick? Anyone know any proposed release dates? someone else mentioned a while ago that Glenn seemed to be rushing Danzig 5..consider that Danzig has always had a new record every 2 years, the last being 10/4/94. And the only reason it was that late in '94 was because of bullshit, even thouhg recording was done long before. So theoretically, 5 should be out any time now... > Also someone said a member of Alice in Chains sings on one > of the songs.....is it Jerry Cantrell or Layne Staley? ?? I read Cantrell played guitar on Hand of Doom (the Black Sabbath cover). from jaime... > reguardless of weither the fits are back together,that they are still a has > been band.i flew off the handle because this guy likes shit like uh...of course I love the Misfits, but unfortunately they were more of a never-been band. > From: Ken Graf > wrote a short play called Glenn's Bakery. The idea was sparked from a line in > the song Devil's Plaything. "If you don't want to pay, you don't understand.." "if you don't want pain" is the real lyric, not "to pay" > To me, it sounded like he said "If you don't want a pie..." Anyway, my twisted elsewhere in the song he says "if you don't want a fire" > other quedtion if anyone knows about 138. Thanx!! THX1138 was George Lucas' (aka Star Wars director) first movie, also the inspiratin for We Are 138. I answered this becuase I figured no one else would, although 500 people will probably explode in anger at the mention of this topic for the 100000000000th time. -Brett "does this face look almost mean" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 01:21:15 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: UH.....Hello? McFly? From: Blood Feast >I don't mean to sound rude, >but in rgards to the band devilock, what's the point in >recording a demo if you're a cover band? Do they put their own >kinda twist to the music or different arrangements or >something? I just don't understand why anyone would want a tape >of a band that was just trying their hardest to sound like >another band. Playing shows is one thing, but putting out >recordings is kinda dumb, if you ask me, which you didn't. Ok, I'm gonna try to respond to this without getting too pissed. Explain to me how the hell a club owner is supposed to know what your band sounds like if you dont have some sort of demo. Does he guess? I dont know, maybe osmosis or something? What the fuck difference does it make anyway? If I want to make a demo to jerk off to who cares. The point is, the demo had to be made in order for us to play gigs and I figured some people might like to hear our renditions so I offered to send it to people. I will say this again for the twentyith fuckin' time. If you have a negative comment to make about four guys who dont hurt you in the least bit and provide entertainment to a lot of people, E-mail me personally, no one wants to hear how you hate cover bands or how "dumb" we are for making a demo. I will answer any questions you have about the band and save your time as well as others, so you dont have to get on the Bible and bad mouth something that means a lot to me. I've explained on this list before that we cover Misfits songs but in no way "try our hardest" to sound like the Misfits, I change chords, arrangements, some lyrics, etc. And we play in more of a metal style, that's what a cover band does. And to answer your question about who would want one of our demos, there are plenty of people on this list who have it and I've yet to receive any complaints from them. The reason my e-mail address appears with my posts is so people who are assuming something about Devilock can mail me, ask about the band and get an answer before they jump to conclusions. And if you don't want to sound "rude" don't use words like "dumb." If I hadn't heard that, maybe I wouldn't sound so rude. Ok, I got through that without swearing to much. Later, The Noss Devilock And by the way, the demo is still available to anyone who wants one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:31:53 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last issue --->JZOMBIE66@aol.com said > DID I GET IT RIGHT? I JUST BOUGHT THE COLLECTION 1 AND IT KIX >ASS!!! DOES ANYONE HAVE THE LYRICS TO SKULLS, DEVILOCK AND MOMMY CAN I GO OUT >AND KILL TONITE? IF SO COULD U PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME? I CANNOT ACCES THE WWW >OR THE INTERNET BECAUSE I AM RUNNING OFFA OLD SHITY 2400 MODEM BUT I AM ON turn off your fucking caps lock. In preferences disable graphics loading in AOL and then load the page http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m only the first page is graphics intensive, the rest is all text. btw: a Devilock is a hairdo *not* a type of doorlock! --->wallace836 said: >But >the Misfits...? A two minute song is an epic for them! When did the rest of >the band have time for any input? > What the Misfits DID contribute was their unique playing styles, as >simple as those styles were. Anyone who has heard Samhain/Danzig versions of >All Hell/London Dungeon/Marylin knows that this is the case. They are still >the same songs, but their TEXTURE are completly different. > >EXAMPLE: (okay, bad example) Anyone >remeber Bannarama's version of "Venus"? Evcr hear the original? I'd be hard >pressed to say that either songs had much in common, but they are still the >same song. I follow what you saying. I won't comment on your point about the misfits as we obviously disagree, but as far as "Venus" goes it is a bad example to illustrate your point. The Shocking Blue version is identical to the Banarama version. The newer version has got a dance beat and is up tempo that's about it. In your post your referring to a complete reworking of a tune which would imply new melody line and/or rhythms, which is not the case with the Glenn cover's of his own songs or Venus. Those tunes are true covertunes with the benifit of more modern equipment and better recording quality. A better example would be Marylyn Manson's cover of Sweet Dreams(are made of these) which truly is a diferent song w/ the same lyrics. And before anybody jumps on me about this post read it again and notice the fact that I say NOTHING bad about Glenn. > ALSO: This probably isn't a the right forum for this, but anyone >interested in BLUE OYSTER CULT (a big Misfits/Danzig influence) should check >out UNDERBELLY ONLINE. Its located at >HTTP://pages.prodigy.com/PA/robo/robo1.html It's funny you mention BOC as an influence. I've always thought that BOC was an influence to alot of punk bands. People that are willing to listen to new things should search the album Tyranny & Mutation and listen to the song "7 Screaming Diz-Busters" or "O.D.'d on Life Itself" this record came out in 1973 and the parallel to the 1977 punk wave is to great to ignore. And before anyone passes judgement that this is not a Glenn influence, listen to the record FIRST. Anybody that absolutely must hear this can email me I could make a copy from my vinyl. In the meantime maybe I'll put up a soundbite on my page. --->Danzig4192@aol.com said: >ps To all who think Glenn has a big head, watch the Super Bowl and a guy >named Deion! ;-) That's for sure!! --->KEITH "GWAR" NOSS said: >Hey Fiends, >Was just reading one of the interviews with Jerry off the page and there's a >part in there where the interviewer asks about Kryst the Conqueror's >vocalist and they hint about Yngwie Malmsteen's old vocalist. Is Kryst in >all actuallity, Jeff Scott Soto? YES - I have no idea if Jerry is still in contact w/ him but he did sing on the record. He couldn't be credited due to record company obligations. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % You cannot sedate, all the things you hate * * % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % % IRC - CrmsnGhst * %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #136 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 20:16:20 -0500 (EST) > From: Dave Asselin > > Alright, I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but I always forget. > Can someone tell me roughly what I should be paying for copies of Misfits > 7"s? I ask because I bid on a copy of "Horror Business" through Goldmine > From: Nat Burke > but the amount of material on CD is pretty limited. How hard is it to find > 7"'s and LP's, and what kind of price range would I be looking at? This looks like a job for ... EVB. Once every few months she seems to post on this same subject. I know that the answers to these questions can be found in back issues on the page, but looking through them might take forever. EVB, do you think you could do it one last time? > Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 03:07:49 -0500 (EST) > > Hey Fiends, > Was just reading one of the interviews with Jerry off the page and there's a > part in there where the interviewer asks about Kryst the Conqueror's > vocalist and they hint about Yngwie Malmsteen's old vocalist. Is Kryst in > all actuallity, Jeff Scott Soto? Got out my Rising Force CD and I'll be > damned if it isnt the same guy. No one probably cares, but I got a big kick > out of it. Mark, help me out if you know, and if it is him, do Jerry and > Doyle still keep in contact with him? Last time I looked Jeff was still That was the man. Good call. In other news, this last issue (#136) was the all time biggest issue, exceending 88.5 kbytes. That crushes the old record by almost 20K. mark ------------------------------ Subject: Grandpa's on welfare Date: Wed, 24 Jan 96 11:19:24 EST From: Blood Feast hey I have a question, were the misfits ever sponsored by Ibanez guitars? I once heard a rumor that they were. From the grainy videos that I have, it looks like doyle plays an iceman, and jerry plays one of those standard mid-80's ibanez heavy metal basses with his own skull thing on it, And judging from the way jerry breaks his basses in the video, I would imagine they have a sponsorhip to get those guitars for free or at a discount. The only thing that knocks my theory out from under me is that Ibanez stopped making the iceman in the very early eighties (when kiss's popularity began to wane), and those videos have got to be at least 82, cuz it's the doyle/robo years (which by the way are the best in my opinion). but anyway if anyone knows please tell me cuz I'm a guitar nerd. I know they make their own guitars now, by the way, do they sell those guiars are just play them? well anyway, Have you ever wondered what glenn was singing on the earth ad album and been so frustrated that you gave up! well fret no longer, because my friend and I transcribed all the lyrics for you (note: these are our interpretations of what we think they sound like, and although it would be cool if these were the real lyrics, I don't think it would have fit the "horror" image) Death Comes Ripping (oh yeah, this is a lot more fun if you read along with the song) To the rock star's home Yeah a ride a go go future is gummy future horizon way-oh chopped up, hacked up, eat that piece of meat One salt pie's okay I'll wait all butter for you Feel my evil As I eat the special pumpkin way-oh Grandpa's on welfare and I know that Grandpa's on welfare you'll feel the need when Grandpa's on welfare He'll pull his back out Greandpa's on welfare now, Man said head break To billy pope Ma eats oakland lift you way op in his wake (repeat chorus) Wolfsblood You don't know what I've been through! Puerto Rico! Ya ra ra ra billy goat come on now kimmie kimmie cay-ay whitebread This time I'm a punk around the head I feel my photo album baby I feel my hardened breath And I feel my supple breasts I feel my darling's caress And I know I'm not a man And I feel I'm outta my head whitebread This weekend I'm suckin on the bass I fear the bottom of a pager (repeat chorus and first verse) How are you? huh huh there you go. let me know if you want more. ------------------------------ From: ewebb@ycp.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:51:01 EST Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #136 HEY- WOULD ANYONE OUT THERE BE FAMILIAR WITH THE LAYOUT OF NYC. PARTICULARY AROUNF GENERATION RECORDS? MY FIENDS AND I ARE GOING TO THE SIGNING BUT NEED SOME MORE ACURATE DIRECTIONS THAN THE ONES IN THE LAST BIBLE. pARTICULARY... HOW IN THE HELL DO I GET TO GENERATION RECORDS FROM I-95. IS THAT POSSIBLE? I KNOW THAT THE A,B,C,D,E TRAINS STOP AT WASHINGTON SQUARE RIGHT BY THE STORE, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE TO CATCH A TRAIN AT. IM COMING FROM THE BALTIMORE AREA. SHOULD I TRAIN IN FROM JERSEY? IF SO, WHERE? IS IT POSSIBLE TO TRAIN IN FROM LODI? IF SO, WE SHOULD ALL MEET AND HAVE A PILGRIMAGE FROM LODI TO THE BOX SET RELEASE. WE COULD HAVE A HOLY DAY. AFTER ALL, IT IS THE MUSLIM RAMADAN. **********ANYWAY, HELP WITH THE DIRECTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!****** ERIC EWEBB@YCP.EDU or EWEBB@EDDIE.YORKCOL.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 13:36:52 +0500 From: randy Subject: 138 This is sort of a sighting. if anyone has seen American Graffitt, i hope so cause it is a great movie. anyways, it is a George Lucas film, and George Lucas's first film was THX-1138. John Milner's yellow coupe in American Graffitti has the license plate number THX 138, or maybe even 1138, I'm not positve. Someone may call me a liar because they don't see it, but that's because it is only in one scene for about 3 seconds. I was watching it on tv and it caught my eye, then i was watching it again, and it wasn't on the car. I have a copy and i'll watch it and pay more attention. It is the front license plate. also, what is mephisto waltz - is this the name of the song and what album is it on. is it a good song. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 13:25:47 CST From: JP I saw a commercial the other day and put the misfits into it mentally: I'm sure all of you have seen the Right Guard commercials and know the motto "Anything less would be uncivilized." Imagine Jerry or Doyle or someone else from the band doing one of those commercials. Full gear of course. I'm glad that Mtv is out of the picture for the 'fits now, of course I follow Jello Biafra's attitude towards it. However, if they want some tv exposure nationally, without selling their souls, how about USA Up All Night? Granted, Gottfried is irritating, but the Ramones have done it and I believe Sick of it All did as well (before they sold out). Lastly, I don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but there's an actor on that late night Star Trek wannabe show, Babylon 5, who's real name is Jerry Doyle. Unfortunately, I think he's a cop. Go figure. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 18:05:51 -0500 Subject: Misfits Bootleg? From: HAL 2000 I have an old bootleg that I picked up about 10 years ago I didn't see it mentioned in the Bible so I was wondering if anybody else has it. It was recorded live at Max's Kansas City and Came with a cool poster of the crimson ghost and said FIENDS FOREVER on it, also the label on the 7" had a picture of glenn on one side and a picture of the cg on the other and said fiends forever. -- sitting in my room, humming a sickening tune ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:47:30 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: irc #misfits correction I misstakenly stated that AOL members were shit outta luck getting irc. This is not true. You do have irc access. I don't know about mac user but windows people can go to KEYWORD Upgrade. from there you can download WAOL v.2.6, the latest Greatest Software. Sorry for the foulup - Remember check it out #misfits CG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:01:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steev L." Subject: whatever Well, I finally found a copy of the Less Than Zero soundtrack used in a local store. I guess that it's out of print, because when I handed it to the clerk he looked at it and said "Hey! I didn't know we had this! I think Sony discontinued this thing." I paid $7 for it. I like "Glen"'s song, its kinda funny actually. It sounds cheesy, but I still like it. Even more hilarious is Slayer's cover of "Inna-gadda-da-vida". I also managed to find a freenet server that offers free IRC access to anyone in Florida(where I live), Georgia, and some other state. So now I visit the #misfits channel pretty much every night. I like that channel the most cuz people talk to me, unlike the people in #metal. Hmmm, I guess that's all I have to say.... Later ------------------------------ From: Osito666@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 19:11:41 -0500 Subject: Wonderful News Last issue was great! I expected to irk Crimson Ghost, but I never expected he'd get so bent out of shape. Too bad his post didn't make sense. Long winded backpedaling doesn't make for a good argument. The next time he has that dictionary of his out, he ought to look up the word "concise". But what really made last issue special was Mark's post. It was packed with more good Misfits news than I could've ever hoped for. An American tour, sleeping over at people's houses, a back to basics approach to running a band. I haven't been this excited about the Bible since I first found out about it. Thank you, Mark. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 23:43:22 -0600 From: Jaime Obergfell Subject: jerry called me! Just thought that i would let everyone know that jerry called me on sunday!!holy cow!this just goes to show everyone that the fits care about their fans.my suggestion to everyone is to spread the word the fits are bck and they are gonna be badder than ever.and you thought that the eagles reunion was cool!!just wait and see.the fits are going to take the world by storm in 96....my appolagies to paul hahn..i totally misunderstood what he said and i'm sorry.oh well i guess a little argument like this took a little bit out of the usually danzig bashing that we usually see. ------------------------------ From: REAGANPR@jmu.edu Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 11:16:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Candyman 2 I recently saw the movie Candyman 2 and noticed one crucial part. When the main character bitch is looking for the little kid, she goes to his father's house. The reverend directs her to a closet that doubles for his studio. She picks up his drawing book and lo and behold there are a multitude of misfits skulls on the back (aka the crimson ghost) Another thing about the (new and not-so-improved) misfits. I saw that on mark's homepage that they will be playing some kryst the conqueror songs and also a song about a penitent criminal? What kind of bullshit is this? I think that this reformation has disgraced Glenn's band. So, I am sad to say, this boxed set will be the last thing that I buy unless I can find that gold CD. I can see that the misfits will follow in the footsteps of some of our better known punk bands ie. TSOL, The Meatmen, Circle Jerks, and with the reformation of the sex pistols not too far behind the misfits. My sudden realization that the misfits are becoming a glam rock band is pissing me off. The way that Michale is trying to do a "danzig" impression is also just as upsetting. "you guys are a buch of fuckin' pansies" was by far the lamest quote from the Coney Island show. I was standin' up front and I just stood there,shook my head, and laughed. Oh well...I should have expected that it would turn out this way... If anyone wants to argue with me to no avail (because I am right) they can send their arguement or agreement to me or through the bible... pat. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:33:18 -0500 From: She Subject: Misfits Bible Dinner It has been suggested that there be a sort of contest to see who can attend this Misfits Bible Dinner in New York City before the signing. Keep in mind that there is no definite word that Jerry or any of The Misfits will attend. How does this idea sound to everyone? mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:37:00 -0500 From: She Subject: And... The Fiend Club Well everyone, in the past 5 days I have gotten about 150 requests to be added to the Misfits Fiend Club list. I am really amazed at how few people actually took the time to write to the PO Box address and get themselves added. The address is at the end of every issue, on the home page, and in many other places, and yet so few of the fiends on this mailing list took the time to send them a simple letter. It's really amazing... Anyway, anyone who somehow missed the post on the page, in the Bible, on IRC, and in the newsgroups, if you want to receive the upcoming Fiend Club mailing and be permanently added to the list, email me your name, address, and phone # AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Jerry would like my list by next week. mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Bible, #137 138 Boxed-set worries?!? mondegreen Autographs we are 138 Special 138 issue or something Re: Misfits Bible, #136 Juxtapoz my 138 misfits story stuff again ALL SONGS BY response Glenn's Bakery II Glenn's last name directions to the signing Re: Misfits Bible, #137 Subscribe getting into the misfits and stuff 138! origin of a fiend Re: Misfits Bible, #137 STUFF Misfits Bootleg...I think Re: Misfits Bible, #137 Misfits Bible Dinner 2/26/96 whoa whoa oh Issue #138 Misfit singles Enlightenment at 13 blah blah blah We Are 138, eh? How I got into... EVB's price guide X-Files 138, at last! RE: Misfits Bible, #137 X-Files NEW DANZIG SONG correction BILE138 List Times Square How I got into the MISFITS!!!! Gold disc One month in 30 nights in the pit! Warning to the NCAA: We Bite! shameless plug let's all be pals, at least for one issue stuff n' some stuff Subscribe delay How do you get off the Danzig Mailing List at Def... ? 1,2,3,4, E chord"we..." Re: Misfits Bible, #137 MIsFits Bible 138 Pissed? Misfits & Samhain Collectibles price guide Punk Floyd A Wonderful Finding kryst the conqueror mike called!! Have a 'fit. We are 138 I am 138 We Are 138 i hope this makes it into 138.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lee Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:26:12 -5 Subject: Mayhem in Kentucky... Well, as promised earlier, here is my post to this spectacular 138th issue of the Misfits Bible...this story is about the first time I heard the Misfits, and why I still listen to them to this day (in fact I'm listening to the 'Hymns From Hell' boot now)... It all starts one day at K-Mart (where I worked) in the ancient year of 1993...my best friend at the time, the immortal Aaron Tanner, worked at K-Mart with me, and on this day, we happened to get off work at the same time. I had no car at the time, so I asked Aaron if he could give me a ride home. He said he had something else to do after work, but I was invited to come along...after work, we dropped by a friends house (Quinn Dawson, ex-drummer for the Ninjas) and picked him and another friend up. We were just driving around when we got the bright idea to cross the Ohio River and raise a ruckus in neighboring Kentucky. We were driving around Henderson, up to the usual mischief (terrorizing drive-ins, ripping porn off from the Pantry, and speeding through public parks) and that's when one of the greatest songs I've ever heard came on the tape player...Quinn told Aaron to turn it up...appearantly they all knew what this was, but I had no idea, so I asked Quinn what the hell this was..he said, "You mean you've never heard of the Misfits?!?! Shit, Aaron, pass the tape case back here..." (we were in the back) I looked at this tape cover...Walk Among Us...the band on the front looked real cool.."These guys don't hang around with GWAR, do they?" "Hell no," Quinn said, "they broke up in '83!" "Oh...wait a minute!!! Is this the REAL Glenn Danzig (I ahd just noticed the line-up)?!?!?!" "Hell, yeah!! It's a whole lot better than the shit he does now, isn't it?" "Yeah it is...what song is this anyway?" "'Skulls!'" A few songs later, we were making a turn, and Aaron forgot to signal...as luck had it, a cop was right behind us and pulled us over...when Aaron was asked to get out of the car, he was singing 'Braineaters' (the last song that played before we were pulled over), the cop asked if he was drunk or high or anything (of course he wasn't, we were all straight edge at the time....) but the cop wouldn't believe him when he said no...anyway, he got a ticket, and we all survived, but that night was some of the most fun I have ever ahd in my life, and I think it's all because the Misfits were playing at the time...I went out a week later and got "Walk Among Us" and "Misfits", and eventually got the rest of the stuff, plus a couple of boots I came across at shows and things, and of course the great "Hymns From Hell" put together for the Bible...if that night had never happened the way it did, I may be listening to Metallica and Iron Maiden still, but luckilly I was put on the right track. "We Bite!" Mark Nance, fiend since 1993. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:21:40 -0500 From: Jay Charles Jack Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #137 Peanut Butter Scar is a band that misfit fans should like they are punk, not Mtv green day shit they frequently cover misfit tunes and open most shows with braineaters if any of you fiends out there are interested send a SASE to: The Friends of PBS network 153 Riverview Road Powhatan Point, OH 43942 please check us out. thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:43:51 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel McGarrigan Subject: 138 First of all to the person that had the Dsnzig skull sighting. I have been practicing Wicca, or white witchcraft for over 5 years. We are a pagan Earth religion and have know connection with human or animal sacrifice or grave robbing. Also Satan or the Devil is a Christian deity and has no place in our beliefs. We do not practice orgies or black masses or of that other bullshit you in horror movies or covers of your favorite death metal bands. Second can't we all just be happy that The Misfits are finally performing again? This Danzig vs. Misfits shit bugging the shit outta me. Finally ahh for issue #138, how I got into the Misfits. I have always heard about The Misfits from a lot of my punker friends. It was 1989 and I was in 7th grade. I had to go to the hospital for some surgery. I was lyin in the hospital bed one day and my mom came to visit. I said I was bored and all the hospital tv showed was soap operas. She asked me if I wanted something from the tape store down the street. i thought for a long moment. I remembered my friend Jay tellin me something about a band called The Misfits. I said, "Yeah see if they had anything by The Misfits." An hour later she came back the first Compilation, ya know Plan 9-9 cassette. The Yellow Skull? Well that night I popped it into my walkman and on came "She." I thought these guys are fucking cool. And the rest is history. Danny Boi! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:09:01 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Dycus Subject: Boxed-set worries?!? I'm not sure if my worrying is justified or not, but hopefully someone can help ease my fears. I read an "official Caroline description" of the boxed-set, which said "featuring the complete recordings from Collection I, Collection 2, Legacy of Brutality, Evilive, and Earth A.D...." Now, maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but does this mean they're going to be wasting valuable boxed-set space by rereleasing these albums?!? And is there going to be any other live stuff besides Evilive? I hope I'm worrying over nothiing, because I can't believe they'd just put out those albums again. Isn't there enough unreleased material to fill 4 CD's? Please ease my pain, Ed D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 16:02:59 -0800 From: Lab User Subject: mondegreen 'ello just wanted to post my favorite mondegreens from eagles dare (with vacant eyes and features) we patronize the peaches and we terrorize the beaches love- jola c. biniek ps a short post is a thing of beauty and a joy forever. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:38:10 -0500 (EST) From: "c.london/Phil Rupp" Got new Bible--thanks! This is great? Who'd a thought 10m years ago that it would come to this. Re Danzig vs. et al--bands are collaborative--to say Jerry was the brains/Dnazig was the brains, etc etc is the same mentality that says oh, anybody can be the drummer. The Misfits went through several disticnt periods from 77-83, reflecting their artistic development, personnel changes and the changing times. I find when I hear Jerry/Doyle camp talk they claim credit for all the good stuff, assign blame for all the problems and it just isn't very believeable. How could Doyle have contributed to the early Misfits stuff (pre 82--when did he join up?) He's a great guitarist and I love the man to death, but he was 13 years old when STATIC AGE was recorded (My favorite Misfits album--COME BACK /ANGEL FUCK !!!!!). I met Danzig 2x once on a music video (TWIST OF CAIN) and, shit, I gguess on another music video he directed (can't rememebr, the one with the chichen/black mass) and he seemed very quiet, serious,like he was at work (which he was). I saw no fights, no harsh words, maybe a little tension but nothing unusual. He seemed opened to ideas, calm when thigs went wrong--pretty normal. Now I can see how being a little withdrawn can be seen as snotty,. but it could also be being busy. i don't get the battle. Bands breakup. People fight when they work together for along time. Things don't always go as planned. But when the smoke clears, the music is great and that's what lasts. ------------------------------ From: wallace836@vegas.email.net Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:31:58 PST Subject: Autographs If Glenn is as big an asshole as everyone cliams, you're lucky he signed anything at all! My autograph experience with Glenn has been one of the best (Blue Oyster Cult was pretty cool, too...even got a few picks from them). If anyone wants to know how Glenn compares to others when signing autographs, here are a few examples: comic artist Todd Macfarlane requires people to buy vouchers, which allows 2 (count 'em 2!) autographs; Star Trek actors charge a minimum of $5 for 3 autographs; baseball players charge PER AUTOGRAPH (Note: Jose Canseco once charged sick children at a hospital for autographs...AT A CHARITY BENEFIT!!). For all of these people you'd have to stand in line for probably 1-3 hours. I stood in line for Danzig about 15 minutes and got about 8 autographs. Fuck Star Trek AND baseball! And all you Danzig naysayers while you're at it. Also, for the BOC influences: Tyranny and Mutation IS a good place to start. Another is "Spectres"...kinda 70's, but has "Godzilla" and "Nosferatu". BOC can be goth/rock/metal/la grange/sci-fi/cheese horror/satanic/glam rock/bluesy/psychedilia...very scizophrenic band, and I recomend their first 6 albums without hesitation. Drooling over the thought of the Misfits boxed set!! (Collection II kinda half sucked) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:38:19 +0000 From: Jake Starr/ADAM WEST Subject: we are 138 hey! i haven't posted for a long time mainly cuz i didn't have anything to say. But i feel it's my duty to contribute to issue 138. the bickering has to stop over glenn vs. the misfits, that much is clear. it does make good reading twice a week, though, but give it a rest and listen to "walk among us" instead of posting a flame. i have a sighting, although i'm embarrassed to say it. i watched "party of five" last week and this week and there's a danzig poster on the wall in julia's room. it's right next to a depeche mode poster. okay, so i watch those kind of shows sometimes. anyway, i want to thank mark, CG, EVB, and all the others who have kept this whole thing going. i'm sure i'll see some of you guys at vinyl ink on the 27th for the box set... maybe even a day earlier? there's no way i can make it to nyc for the signing, much as i'd like. let's keep up the good will cuz regardless of who wrote what and who hates whom, the music lives on. "i got something to say..." ******************************************************** * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * * c/o Fandango Records * * 1805 T Street, NW #A * * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * * (202) 483-0065 * * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * * http://www.exclamation.com/webtrax/punk/misc/aw.html * ******************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:55:01 -0800 From: Mark Saalwaechter Subject: Special 138 issue or something Around issue 130, someone mentioned that we all should write about how we first got into the Misfits. Well, I decided that I would bore you all with the story. It was when I went to Washington, D.C. for out 8th grade trip...we were shopping in a mall and my friend, whose sister was a BIG Misfits fan, pointed out "Compilation I" to me and said that was his sisters favorite band. I bought the album (which I called "Plan9" since it didn't have a name and that was on the side of the tape) and I loved it... Speaking of my friends sister, she lived near Lodi, New Jersey at the time of the Misfits (okay...the first coming) and went to a lot of shows...she has the original cough/cool-she and a bunch of other rare stuff...she doesnt listen to them any more, and I'm TRYING to get the collection off of her...she has a bunch of old flyers too, and was in the Danzig "Mother" video (front row in the concert scenes). Well, thats all I have to babble about...I don't post much, so deal with it.. Oh yeah, in issue #137, BM Fama said this: >I've never met Bobby, but I like him already. Law #1 if I ever become >dictator of North America: death to tobacco smokers, producers, >traffickers, etc etc. (If any of you don't like it, your death will only >be slower and much more painful) All I have to say is, let's not turn this mailing list into a fucking boring display of political opinions. I could say stuff like "If I become president, I am going to rip the lungs out of non-smokers chests, exhale my smoke on them until they are black, put them back in, and stab them with a dull knife", but I am not going to. Mark msaal@cats.ucsc.edu RattFink on IRC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 20:01:04 -0500 (EST) From: James F McDonald Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #136 When is Danzig going to tour through the Washington D.C. area again? jmcdona1@osf1.gmu.edu ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:02:32 -0500 Subject: Juxtapoz In the spring issue of artist Robt. Williams' "Juxtapoz" magazine, in the "Beat Down" section, is a picture of our own "Twins of Evil" along with the fresh blood of Chud and Michale Graves. All four are dressed in their finest fiendish atire and look great. Jerry and Doyle look better than ever. Doyle is wearing some kind of plated leather armor over his shoulders and arms. I've never seen him wear anything like that before. Is it part of their new look? Jerry looks mightier than ever. Like he's ready to knock a wall down, or at the very least talk your ear off till it bleeds. Chud and Michale fit right in. Jerry and Doyle have made a good decision on choosing them to finish out the band. It's a small picture but if you haven't seen the new line-up, here's your chance. It's a cool magazine too if you're interested in the underground art scene (Joe Coleman, Hunter Thompson, XNO, etc.). Anyway ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Subject: my 138 misfits story Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 16:39:10 EST From: Blood Feast I was in the seventh grade, it was 1987, and I was skating with my friends at this kid's ramp. We were the "little kids" there, and nobody would talk to us. One of the oldest, coolest kids hanging out there had a cast on his arm, he had broken it skating. Anyway, he had written "misfits rule" on his cast, and I asked him what it meant. He told me it was a band, and offered to make me a tape. That tape, which was a 6th generation dub of Walk Among Us, Evilive and Earth A.D. was played so much that it eventually deteriorated and broke over time, but from then on I was hooked. Two years later when the first Danzig album came out, I bought it, hoping for another misfits. I was dissappointed to say the least. So anyway that's why I'm here on this misfits bible. I guess it's a boring story, but I'm a pretty boring person. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 17:15:27 -0500 Subject: stuff again what's wrong with the sex pistols touring again? the damned have done it. and hey, they have to eat too. besides, people like me who never got to see them will. same thing with the original kiss. as long as a band does it with the original memebers i don't see a problem. glenn matlock was a much better bassist anyway, so i don't wanna' hear "but, sid's dead!!!" anyway, what i'm saying is, it's been done before, why should we get all upset now. and how is it going to hurt "punk rock"? if you don't listen to something because everyone else is then that's the same as listening to something because everyone else is. either way you're letting somebody else tell you what to listen to. bottom line, don't listen to stuff you think sucks. i don't listen to the offspring because i think they suck, i listen to stuff that I think is good, not what other people don't think is good. well, that's all i'll ramble for now. feel free to flame me, but that's probably just because you're pissed because you know you like green day, and that's not the "punk" thing to do. EvilDon Dieffenbach ------------------------------ From: wallace836@vegas.email.net Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:23:39 PST Subject: ALL SONGS BY response Someone commented that Danzig virtually re-wrote his SAMHAIN/DANZI versions of Allhell/London Dunfeon/etc. I can't see what he "re-wrote" at all....!? All the songs are still structured the exact same' they are still in the same key. Granted, a few of the melodies may occasionally differ, but as I said, it is because of the translating musicians. I sincerely doubt that John Chist would/could ever play a Misfits song and make it SOUND like the misfits. this is neither a strength or a weakness on the part of any musican involved in their perspective bands. It's just a matter of personality. Why do you think so many people hate the Metallica version of Misfits songs? They're still playing the SAME songs in the SAME notes in the SAME keys. It's becasue, as a punk band, Metallica sucks, the same way Misfits suck as a metal band. It's only a matter of different teams, not leagues! So, before anyone else bashes another band, let's here what makes YOU so fucking superior to the rest of the planet! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 20:16:01 EST From: Ken Graf Subject: Glenn's Bakery II MARK, I am posting this bfore i recieve issue #137. However, if at all possible PlEASE do not put this on the bible until #138. Thanks!! Well, here it is kids. Glenn's Bakery partII. Remember, this is an allegory, so look for comparisons,such as: Pumpernickel really means Mephisto Waltz. I really hope that this is #138 that you're reading and not #137 because I posted it early.Either way, enjoy! ---Ken Graf Our story begins in Glenn's Bakery with Glenn standing behind the counter in an apron and a baker's hat. There is a customer standing there buying one of Glenn's famous pies and attempting to make conversation with him. Customer: My, my. These are some wonderful pies that you sell here Glenn. You know what else was good? Buffy's Home-Baked Bread! You know, when this place used to be Buffy's. Glenn: Yeah, I know, but this isn't Buffy's anymore, it's Glenn's. Our specialty is Glenn's famous pies, not home-baked bread. Cust: Well, I know that Glenn. I love your pies and believe me, I meant you no disrespect. Your pies are great, Johns cake is fantastic, Eerie's tarts can't be beat and Chuck's biscuits are out of this world! Glenn: I'm glad you could see it my way. Cust: I was just commenting about Buffy's because I thought you used to own part of the business, that's all. Glenn: No, I had nothing to do with that low quality bakery. Cust: Well, thank God, cause otherwise, I would think you'd be pretty upset. Glenn: Why's that? Cust: Cause some guy named Jerry is re-opening Buffy's across the street. Glenn: What!!! Glenn throws down his hat and runs out the front door. Sure enough, the new Buffy's is under construction. Standing in front, directing construction workers to put up the sign is Glenn's old baking partner, Jerry Only. The sign being put up says "BUFFY'S, the one and ONLY" Glenn shouts out, "Nice fucking sign!" Jerry turns around and sees Glenn. Their eyes lock on eachother and a roar of thunder can be heard for miles. Glenn flashes an icy grin and says coldly, "You don't stand a chance" Over the next few months, Glenn's bakery and Buffy's bakery are fierce competitors. Glenn is sullen, but not yet enraged, until one day, when Jerry puts up a new sign. It reads, "Buffy's Home-Baked Bread". Glenn is now filled with rage and runs across the street to confront Jerry. Glenn: What the hell is this? Jerry: What? The sign? What the fuck is your problem Glenn? Glenn: Buffy's Home-Baked Bread?! You may own half the name Buffy's Bakery, but I own the name of anything Buffy's ever made. I forbid you to sell anything under any title that I came up with! Jerry: Oh sure Glenn, when I re-open Buffy's, you just laugh it off and pretend you never had anything to do with me. But now that I start to regain some recognition, you gotta fuck with me? Hearing all the commotion, Chud, Doyle, and Graves emerge from the back room. Glenn looks at Chud and Graves. Glenn: Who are these assholes, some new hot-shot bakers you got to replace me? And what's this, you got your brother baking now. I used to make him mop the fucking floor! Jerry: All Doyle needed was a chance! Chud here can bake circles around you! And Graves here, he never even baked before he came to work for us, and his skills have already surpassed your's Glenn! Glenn: This isn't gonna happen Jerry! You are not gonna sell Buffy's Home-Baked Bread to the public, mark my words! Glenn storms out of Jerry's store and punches some guy out cold on the way back to his bakery. The next day, Jerry finds his whole supply of bread for that day missing. Meanwhile, Glenn has a new sign up. It says, "Now selling Buffy's Home-Baked Bread.....by Glenn." Glenn has sunk to a new low. Every night, he goes into Jerry's bakery and steals his batch of bread. He then takes it to his own bakery, changes a few minor details and sells it to the public as his own, killing Jerry's business. But Jerry pushed on, selling other baked goods and staying in the game. Meanwhile Glenn's entire band, er I mean staff, leaves him. This helps out Jerry immensely, but the thing that put Jerry over the top with Glenn's loyal customers was the public accusation of Glenn that Jerry came out with on a fine spring day. He told the people about how Glenn was stealing his bread, and changing the recipe slightly and selling it as his own. He also stated this important fact: "Glenn is selling Pumpernickel under the name Bufffy's home baked Bread. When Glenn and I were partners, we NEVER made Pumpernickel." This was all the proof that the public needed to see Glenn's dishonesty and he was forced to go out of business. He did however, later publish a book called "Cooking With Glenn", which sold very well. But when at a convention for baked goods, Glenn was asked by a fan to sign the book and declined saying, "I ain't signing that. They fucked up all my recipies." THE END Note: None of this really happened, so Glenn, please don't kill me. Well, what did ya think? Let me Know! Also, I need a theme song for this one, so any ideas would be appreciated. But for now, to close out the play is the theme song from the original Glenn's bakery. "Devil's Danish" *For best rsults, play "Devil's Plaything" while reading this. icing and cake, are baker's things a cherry danish, about to be made just look at these pies, and see if i lie they are the bst around, you cannot deny big brick oven, burns inside it's where all of my goods, are baked and not fried just look at these pies, and see if i lie they are very tasty, so give them a try display case, lets you see all thes beautiful pies, made just by me got some cake, in my hand if you play with pie, you're playin with Glenn CHORUS: got this danish, in my hand if you don't want a pie, you don't understand tastes so good, just try it and see but if you don't want a pie, don't come to me If you'd like, come inside but if you don't want a pie, just walk on by Buffy's was good, it was real good, wow! But it aint nothin compared to my bakery now CHORUS:..... Whoh-oh-whoh-oh........ Take a bite, chew for a while swallow it down, and you'd better smile if you don't, you're sick in the head cause if ya don't like my pie, youre better off dead THE END---Ken Graf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 21:34:09 EST From: Ken Graf Subject: Glenn's last name What th hell is Glenn's last name? I always thought it was Whitman, but I saw some people asking for the spelling, so I must be wrong. Could you either tell me or tell me where to find it on the www misfits site? GLENN'S BAKERY II COMING SOON (if not here already, depending on what issue this is that you're reading) Later ---Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:48:19 -0500 (EST) From: Giveon Askani Subject: directions to the signing The guy who can't shut off his caps-lock requested some directions to the store where the signing was taking place, and I figured some other people might need them, too. I can't say I know the NY subway system too well, but if you're taking the Path trains from Penn-Station, here's a way to get to Generation Records: Get off at Journal Square, wait for the train that says Hoboken & 33rd st. Get on that, and get off at the 9th st, stop. When you get to the street level, turn to your left, and go to the end of the block. You're on the corner of 9th & 5th ave. now, walk down to your right, towards Washington Square--you should see the big arch. When you get there, you can either walk thru the park(which is not recommended at that hour), or walk around the perimeter of it(which I'm probably gonna do). Whether you go around or through, on the other side of the park, crosss the street, and walk down the street directly across from the park till you see the sign that says Thompson St. Now, walk down Thompson about 2 blocks, and you should be there. Oh yeah, since this is my frist time on the Bible, I might as well add a couple things: I was watching Comedy Central(blagh) about 6-mos. ago, and some asshole comic was interviewing people in San Francisco, and they stopped this punk-type, who was wearing an army-surplus jacket w/the crimson ghost safety- pinned on the back. He mentioned something about the 'fits, and the comic made some remark about how he liked a band called that cuz he was one(or something like that). What else did I have to say? Oh yeah, Glenn's comix are pretty bad----cheesy gore, and bad porno. The only decent one was this one thing called Jaguar God, and it never came out more than once. The IRC channel is cool, but it could use more people, so I hope some of you get on it. I hope my directions are clear enough, if they're not, e-mail me and tell me what else you need to know. See ya at the signing. -----Art. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:53:09 -0600 From: Jaime Obergfell what the hell is going on here?people calling the misfits a never been band?first off they have been apart for 15 years.they left a fucking legacy behind.ever since i can remember everyone has refered to "the skull"as belonging to the misfits not danzig.i have no problem with danzig,so why the fuck are you people bashing the misfits?they fucking made him.had he not been associated with them.neither danzig nor the fits would be here today.i think they both should be thankful to each other.all this shit is fucking insane.isnt the name of this the misfit bible.i would think that one would be a fan to subscribe.for christ sakes will you people just stop fucking arguEing.i think both sides have spoken enough......DEVILOCK RULES!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: IANXRT@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 06:03:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #137 I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY THINKS ABOUT THE BAND MEMBERS. I LOVE THE MISFITS AND I ALWAYS WILL. MY BAND COVERS TONS OF MISFITS. I WILL ALWAYS LISTEN TO THE BEST SONGS IN THE WORLD AND ALWAYS LOVE TO HERE HATEBREEDERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THE MISFITS WILL NEVER DIE INSIDE ME. SO WHAT IF GLEN'S THROUGH WITH THE BAND. I STILL HAVE A VARIETY OF MISFITS SONGS TO LISTEN TO; AND MORE ON THE WAY. SO I'M BASSICALLY TRYING TO WRITE A POSITIVE NOTE FOR THE BIBLE. I'M A BRAINEATER, AND I LOVE THE MISFITS. THAT SUMS IT ALL UP, IAN ------------------------------ From: ST7L3@jetson.uh.edu Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:47:30 -0600 (CST) Subject: Subscribe I am new to this but an old Misfits fan.I was wondering if THE MISFITS were going to tour in the south,especially Texas. Why does Danzig hate the Misfits,is it because he lost the law suit? And what's the story with Danzig some say he's a real asshole and others say that he's a real nice guy.Can someone clear that up for me? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:49:09 -0500 (EST) From: "nirvana.." Subject: getting into the misfits and stuff Hey all you kick ass fiends!! this is my first post to the page, but i've been getting the bible for like 30 issue now or something.. well, it's issue #138.. I got into the misfits about 6 or 7 years ago or around there. I knew someone who was really into the punk rock thing. myself, I was still into the pop rock thing, because I was too fucking young to know any better.. well, anyway, my friend intro- duced my to the fits one day, after school.. he had earth a.d. on vinyl, and walk amoung us, as well as some others and some bootlegs that I can't remember the titles to.. and the first song he played was "all hell breaks loose" off of WAU and I just thought that was the most kick ass song that I had heard in a very long time..this being at age 12 or so... then, we just spent the rest of the time just listening to records and jamming on guitars.. it was a truly turning point in rock-n-roll and punk and all that shit for me. I never again listened to a top 40 countdown or anything like that.. just thought you all would appreciate my first experience with the 'fits! thanx for listening (or reading or whatever) later all! Breck "..who but me could write this book or cruel..." ------------------------------ From: "Collin M. McCormick" Subject: 138! Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 13:10:32 -0600 I felt I had better contribute to the 138th spectacular special, so here goes. First of all I would like to say how cool I think it is that this exists. I mean when I first saw the Misfits homepage I thought it was so awe inspiring. I have learned so much about the band from both the bible and the homepage. Thank you Mark for putting the time and effort to make all this work. Anyways, I had always liked punk music like Black Flag and DK and of course the Sex Pistols, but I had never heard of the Misfits. One day my friend Sam leant me a tape It was Legacy of Brutality. At first I looked at the cover, cool skull and all but the only group named the Misfits I had heard of was that group from that retarded Jem show my sister collected the dolls too. So I kind of laughed at it. I took it home and gave it a listen. I loved it immeadiately. I really liked Glenn's singing he was really good, not just screaming. I quickly bought all the other stuff I could get my hands on. When I heard about the Danzig album i ran out and bought it. I was so let down at first but it later grew on me. This lead me to get some Samhain. To me Samhain is like the proto grunge sound way before anybody knew anything about Seattle. Samhain also bridged the gap musically from the Misfits to Danzig. I was a party once and there were a bunch of skinheads there I put on some Misfits and they loved it. One the guys said he actually lived with the Misfits in Jersey for a while, he was old enough to be telling the truth. He said he almost beat up Bobby Steele. This was all most probably bullshit but I wasn't going to call him a liar though I kind of have mixed feelings about the Misfits getting back together, but I guess overall I'm excited about it. I'm looking forward to seeing them when they tour in the states and I will most definitely buy there new stuff. Enough Babbling, I'm out! ------------------------------ From: ChloeAlvin@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:28:05 -0500 Subject: origin of a fiend I thought I'd related why I got into the Misfits. For a simple yet effective reason. I was in the eighth grade (about '91?) and I liked a boy. An older boy who had the prettiest blonde hair and already had a driving permit. One day we were at his house and he changed his shirt in front of me and I saw what in my then unexperienced eyes was the most attractive thing I've ever seen on anyone. This perfect boy had a Fiend Club tattoo on his chest. Nothing in my sheltered life had ever seemed so rebellious. I went out and bought the Plan 9 comp the next day to impress the boy with my weath of knowledge, and loved it. Now the boy lives in Philly with his girlfriend and is in a ska band, and I have a couple of tattoos, one of which is a pathetic india ink version of the crimson ghost on my thigh. But I love the Misfits and just because I didn't hear of them for many years after they broke up or got into them to impress a boy doesn't mean that I am any less of a fan. Emily ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:00:40 -0600 (CST) From: Baggio Steve Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #137 Hey, does anybody know whatever happened to ROBO? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:45:32 -0600 From: Eric Gulbrandsen Subject: STUFF Hello Fellow Fiends, IT'S NOW 138!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUNNY I STILL FEEL THE SAME?????? Kinda strange, who knows??? Well now on to business. I'm looking for people that have old Samhain, Danzig, Misfits, and Undead T-Shirts for sale or trade for tape and video footage. I don't want the ones you can usually find, like new Danzig shirts, but original print shirts-esp. Samhain ones. Also bootleg shirts if there are any out there. If you have anything else cool to trade drop me a line. Also looking for Kryst the Conqueror CD. If you have a copy to spare let know, just drop me a line and I'll get back to you as quickly as possible. By the way-in the words of Rodney King "Can't we all just get along?" The roots of punk are slowly coming back out from hibernation. The Sex Pistols are reforming and touring, the Misfits, the Decendents I have heard are coming back from a friend of the guitarist, who knows who will be next DK??? Black Flag???(Doubtful) but the Apocalypse of garage band music is slowly going to be retaken by it's rightful owners. I think that this is reason enough to be happy and celebrate the rebirth of punk as we know it, and not act like little babies (for those who are) and act like this is a duel aka...I thought you were a worthy adversary...It isn't a contest, just people talking about some of their favorite bands and passing info and trading stuff and happy things. So lets all get along-Glenn is pretty cool (YES I HAVE MET GLENN) and I'm sure the Misfits are too as well as the Undead and all of the other related bands. I'm just happy that music is finally coming back in the right direction. Thanks, Gulliver --138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138 "You wouldn't understand My Shouting Braille When there's a blender in the Oven!!!!!!!!!" -Space Ghost Eric Gulbrandsen egulbrandsen@foxvalley.tec.wi.us --138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138--138 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:26:09 PST From: "I'm not going to tell you." Subject: Misfits Bootleg...I think Does anyone know about a Misfits' disc called "Beware and the Rest...?" I bought it last summer at a local record store. It's very obvious that the songs were recorded directly off records. Before i got it I hadn't heard most of the songs on it because i think they were unreleased at the time. I think some of them still are. It has "Spook City U.S.A., " some old-sounding keyboard versions of "She," and "Cough/Cool." It was worth the $30 i spent for it. I was offered $50 for it. If anyone else knows anything about it please e-mail me at: initium@accessone.com Thank you, ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ | Tom Brunaugh | "Ye are of your father the devil, and | | | the lusts of your father ye will do." | | initium@accessone.com | St. John 8:44 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #137 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:55:25 -0500 (EST) > From: Tuomo Lindholm > > So are there any more "official live"'s than EVILIVE. And if there are > where to get them, I am also really interested about some bootlegs and stuff. A live version of Attitude was on the Flipside Vinyl Compilation in '84. Other than that, there's only been Evilive. > From: 14139 > Could it be possible to have my Misfits record signatured through mail ? > Like sending them to Fiend Club and then get them back as signed ? I know > that it's kinda difficult but it would really be worth it. Yep, I believe it can be done. It's worth a try anyway... > Subject: Grandpa's on welfare > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 96 11:19:24 EST > From: Blood Feast > > hey I have a question, were the misfits ever sponsored by > Ibanez guitars? I once heard a rumor that they were. From the > grainy videos that I have, it looks like doyle plays an iceman, > and jerry plays one of those standard mid-80's ibanez heavy > metal basses with his own skull thing on it, And judging from Doyle did play an Iceman (Paul Stanley did too) but Jerry played a rickenbacker. He would buy them cheap so he could break them up... > if anyone knows please tell me cuz I'm a guitar nerd. I know > they make their own guitars now, by the way, do they sell those > guiars are just play them? well anyway, Have you ever wondered they just make them now. someday the might sell them. > I have an old bootleg that I picked up about 10 years ago I didn't see it > mentioned in the Bible so I was wondering if anybody else has it. > It was recorded live at Max's Kansas City and Came with a cool > poster of the crimson ghost and said FIENDS FOREVER on it, also the label > on the 7" had a picture of glenn on one side and a picture of the cg on the > other and said fiends forever. This bootleg (OF COURSE) is in the discography on the page. The songs on it were recorded 4/17/82 at Al's Bar in Los Angeles. Note how inaccurate the information is on bootlegs... It's a fairly common bootleg. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:00:40 -0500 From: She Subject: Misfits Bible Dinner 2/26/96 Okay everybody. Jerry has selected a location for the pre-signing Misfits Bible dinner. It will be held from 7pm-9pm at Kenny's Castaways on Bleecker Street in New York. This is on the same block as Generation Records. He will also be getting me some better directions, so we don't all get lost in NYC. Any fiends who are interested should show up. Basically, it will be a pizza party with all the Misfits Bible fiends who are travelling to the signing. This will give everyone a chance to meet each other and the band. Jerry is planning to make it, but if Caroline throws something in his way, Michale and Chud will still be going. Everyone should bring a few dollars to help pay for the costs of dinner. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 17:17:58 -0800 From: Scott Deemer Subject: whoa whoa oh hmmm i just noticed the other day that liszt (sp?) wrote a song for orchestra called mephisto waltz? coinkydink? Ryq ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 17:27:47 -0800 From: Scott Deemer Subject: Issue #138 As the special issue is finally here, i'm feeling a bit weepy. Mark, thanks for all the time and effort you put into the page, CG and the others from the first issues of the Bible that got things goin. Mark, I hope after you graduate (*if* you graduate ;) that the page will not fade away. =) BTW, what is "we are 138" about? ;) hahahah Ryq ------------------------------ From: MisfitNo9@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:34:12 -0500 Subject: Misfit singles Fellow Fiends, What better place to put my first post than issue 138. But if I become redundant, please ignore me, as catching up on 130+ back issues takes a little time. Nevertheless, I'm just glad to be here. Enough with the formalities, on to business... Misfit singles-What's a real one worth? (maybe a price guide on the Misfits page would be cool). I thought I had a few orig's, but I'm almost sure they aren't. I guess I thought before, any Misfits single that looked spookycool(you know what I mean), was original. DUHHH! I still have to check them with the descriptions in the discography, but I know I'm gonna be bummin' big time. By the way, great job on the discography, I've been searching for that info for years! I paid about $6-$10 apiece for my singles,(was I ripped off?), when I could find them, but I haven't seen one in the last 2 years. What I did see was a single w/ the title" the Fiendz." There was a picture on the jacket that looked like the Misfits, or some guys with blacked out eyes, but I didn't get a close look at it. Any clues? I think the title was called "Having fun" or something like that. I didn't see that title listed as a fits bootleg. Any info on current prices for singles, or even boot singles like I have, would be greatly appreciated. I was at a record show once about 5 years back and saw a "Die Die" 12inch on purple vinyl with Glenn's sig on it. The Dealer wanted $250..%#$@!!! I'd love to collect them, but not at that price. Can't wait to hear the "New" Misfits. Thank god for Jerry and Doyle. What do the new songs sound like? I guess I would want them to sound like Walk Among Us Part II, but time changes everyone. I'll support them whatever they do. Just hope they don't sound like Kryst. Maybe I dismissed that album too quickly because it DIDN'T sound like the fits, gotta give it another listen. What did you fiends think of it? The interview (first part) w/ Jerry was awesome. The opening paragraphs sent chills down my spine. Finally getting some respect....Great writing. Just read 137...Bloodfeast you're killin' me! Those lyrics to EAD had me cryin' I was laughing so hard. I was singing the songs in my head but I gotta try actually playin' the CD, just hope there aren't any sharp objects around if I fall off the chair. And lastly, there's a great fits sighting in a back issue of the Mr. Monster comic book. It's probably already been mentioned, but It's still a great comic. If you didn't see it, there's a full page panel w/ a kid vampire wearing a Samhain t-shirt and blasting "Die Die" out of a boom box. Pretty F@@kin' cool. I forget the iss #, but I have it in my collection. Glenn turned me on to the comic, (he mentioned it in his first Danzig home video), and I got all the back issues. I highly recommend it. Speaking of comics, his Verotik line is Kickin'! Check them out if you haven't already, but do it fast. All the early issues are rising in price FAST, $8-$10 and I don't think they've been around a year yet(maybe). Later on. Long live the Misfits, MisfitNo9(from outer space) "...time to be an Android, not a man" ------------------------------ From: jschulz@inwave.com Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 06:21:12 -0600 Subject: Enlightenment at 13 Hey Fiends! I first got into the Misfits when I was 13. I was a rebellious little shit in Jr. High, when i started hanging around the punk crowd. We used to always copy tapes for each other, as we were also pretty broke. I listened to bands like JFA, Vandals, Black Flag ,FEAR, and alot of other great old stuff. One day I traded my GBH compilation to my friend Eric, who in turn gave me a copy of his Misfits comp. I had never heard of them, but figured I would give it a listen...I mean hell, I thought I was kind of a Misfit, so maybe I would be able to relate to these guys.. It was a compilation of a bunch of stuff and even had a few select Samhain songs on it (Like I knew that back then though). I was completely addicted, after the first song I ever heard off that tape when I popped it in. "20 Eyes"... Wow.. This shit was intense.. I couldnt stop listening.. It was unlike any other band I had ever heard.. The voice was so powerful, but the guy could go from screaming at the top of his lungs, into a melodic crooning that just freaked me out.. I listened to that tape every day before school, and almost immediately after school. I live in Wisconsin, which I hate to say is not a real hip state, and I couldnt find any Misfits releases anywhere. I spent probably 2 years looking for stuff, until I found a little record shop in Madison WI that had "Walk Among Us".. I almost shit myself! I bought it, and hope was finally sparked (even though I had most of the stuff already on my comp). Well, to cut through all the bullshit, and ease your eyes, I will speed this up.. Years went by, I picked up a few things here and there, and THEN I got onto the Internet.. Again I felt the urge to drop turds, when I found that there were LOTS of other people out there who also shared my love of the Misfits.. How cool can it get??? Well, to end things off, I started #Misfits IRC channel. The final step in creating a truely "on-line" community of Fiends. Now, I can sit and bullshit about my favorite band with other Fiends at all hours of the day/night. I have met some great new Fiends there (Mark, Crimson Ghost, Teevie, and all the rest), and have learned so much from hanging out in the channel.. I have set up trades of Misfits material, discussed some really excellent topics, and even had a few nights when we all switched nicks, and had a cyber-fits show.. Sounds Bizzarre? Give it a try.. You just might like it. Well, thats enough of a post for now, but I felt that with it being the MIGHTY 138th issue, I would let you all know who the hell I am. I hope to meet more of you Fiends in #Misfits, and also hope to see some of you at the Box set signing/Bible dinner.. Until then... WE ARE FINALLY 138!!! All Fiends Unite! Later Fiends -- 20Eyes #Misfits Undernet channel OP us.undernet.org All Fiends WELCOME! See ya there! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 08:00:14 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: blah blah blah How C.G. got into the Misfits: In 1977 I wasn't into punk, I think I was overly enarmored with Kiss. Some friends, around 1980, got me listening to bands like MC5, the NY Dolls, Clash, etc.. Being from NJ I remember seeing ads for Misfits shows, but never heard them. In 1986, while in college, my band played at a battle of the bands. We're sitting around watching these little fuckin' High School kids set up their equipment. We notice the singer has a "Mr. Bubble" shirt on and have a laugh about that. Well they take the stage and the first thing out of the guy's mouth is "This a a Fucking love song" and they play Die Die... I'm sittin there listening to it and I'm thinkin "love song...Die Die Die my darlin' - I'll be seeing you in hell??? this must be a bad dream" My buddy's girlfriend is there and she's totally groovin' I ask her what the hell they're playin' she tells me it's a Misfits tune. I guess it was around 1989 that my parents returned from Proedge one day (they were the accountants), my mom hands me about 10 Kryst the Conquerer CD's. She tells me it's Mo's band, I'm like "who the hell is Mo?" I notice the sticker on the KTC disc that says "featuring Jerry & Doyle of the Misfits." I remember those kids at the battle of the bands, the tune they played was pretty good, catchy. I decide to find out what I can about the Misfits, I figure I'll start with what I got so I pop in a Kryst the Conquerer disc. Boy was I disappointed I expected a punk band, I hate heavy metal. About a month later I'm in a record store and I see Walk Among Us, I decide to buy it and give it a try. I listen to the album and I think "God these guys were good - didn't know how to record in a studio to save their collective asses - but really good none the less. " I was really into a few of the songs especially 20 Eyes, Hatebreeders, Mommy.. & London Dongeon. When I say they didn't know ow to record, I mean it sounded like they went into the studio, turned everything to 10 and let it rip, (later I learned that this was true.) In 1993 Jerry Sr. needed some serious help in the office at Proedge. I was recommended to him and off I went to the interview. I got the job and my first day there I met Mo. I told him I had WAU and really liked it, he showed me the practice room and invited me in to listen any time I wanted. Well, as it turned out you didn't need an invitation to listen, when they practiced we had to evacuate the office, it was just too loud. Everyday at 4:00pm we were treated with a Misfits show. It was there that I first heard tunes like Bullet, She, Hollywood Babylon & Return of the Fly. This is why my views are so jaded, almost everyone on this list (600+ people now) got into the band through recordings or through Glenn. I got into the band listening to them play. I went out and bought every official release I could get my hands on. I'm not the fiend that mark is, but on a fiend scale of 1 to 10 I'd say I'm at least a 7. Since I'm a musician myself, I always liked the more melodic punk (Clash, Jam, Buzzcocks) so the earlier Misfits stuff was much more to my liking. I guess I'll wrap this up with my 5 favorite tunes. #1 Hollywood Babylon #2 Hatebreeders #3 Last Caress #4 She #5 Bullet It's funny that my favorites (at least the first 3) are also among the best Misfits tunes as far as recording quality. It may bias my view towards the tunes, but I don't think so. %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% % White Trash get Down on your Knees * * Time for Cake and Sodomy % % ---- The Crimson Ghost * * http://www.planet.net//CrimsonGhost/ % % IRC - CrmsnGhst - find me in #misfits * %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ From: Danzig4192@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 10:45:45 -0500 Subject: We Are 138, eh? What to do for the 138th Misfits Bible? How about how I got interested in the Misfits, etc..? I first heard of the Misfits in the mid-80's as I was into Metallica at the time, I noticed that they often wore Misfits t-shirts and they thanked Glenn Danzig on their Master of Puppets. I thus went out and bought Legacy of Brutality. I thought after listening they were ok but the singer was trying to be the second coming of Elvis P. My next exposure was at a record store in Cambridge when my friend took out Samhain Initium and said "I heard these guys are seriously fucked up in the head." I thus bought November Coming Fire and this time really dug the tunes. While perusing the jacket I noticed that the lead singer was the same as the Misfits. I decided to give the Misfits a second chance, bought Walk Among Us, and the rest is history. Since I got into them late I obviously never saw the Misfits live and I missed Samhain as well, thus I greatly anticipated Danzig's first tour. Unfortunately after buying tickets for the show at the Channel in Boston I became ill and was unable to go. This girl I knew at work who was a punker said they murdered the Misfits stuff they tried to play and gave it a thumbs down (she could have cared less about the Danzig songs). Undaunted I waited until his second album tour and saw Danzig/Soundgarden/Corrosion of Conformity at Axis in Boston. It was a great show, but alas by this time he no longer played any Misfits songs and he didn't even play Mother of Mercy which I know he does time to time from bootlegs. Don't get me wrong I still thought it was a great show, I was just awaiting the band starting Nike-A-Go-Go or All Hell Breaks Loose. Since then I have seen Danzig twice more, both times in NC. Now since the Misfits are reformed I will be looking forward to seeing them (would put them up but I have a 3 room apt shared with my wife and 4 month old) and to hearing Danzig's new album as well (I think it is time for him to come clean and put out the bluegrass 1950's album he has secretly always wanted, don't you? ;-) Andy ps I agree that the Sex Pistols reunion seems antithetical to their No Future banner of 1976-1977, but hey I might go see them anyway, Johnny Rotten (Lydon) is always a hoot in concert and they were always a joke to begin with if you think about it (a singer who had never sung before, a bassist who couldn't play and was strung out all of the time (Sid) and a manager who sold them out all he could and viewed the band as a joke on society. They were always more symbolic than musical IMHO. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 11:54:40 -0500 (EST) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: How I got into... Hello Fiends, First off I would like to say that the IRC is jumping. All of you must try it. And I will wish a happy 138 to all of my fiends who are there regulary and deal with my guest server: Crimson Ghost,20 Eyes, Angelfuck, xLILLYx, and Fiend 138. I got into the misfits the same way as many people, I heard mother. But that was not what I went and bought. A friend of mine told me if you like that you'll love the misfits. So he bought WAU and let me borrow it, I could'nt stop playing it. Then as the time passed I began grapping up all Glenn related material, just so impressed by the power of his voice. I had gone from someone who typically listened to Van Halen and Pearl Jam to this. I was obsessed, since GNR and metallica had done covers I knew there was more stuff out there so I went to record shows in search of more. At this time my same friend turned me on to all punk: Black Flag, Dead Kennedy's, Circle Jerks, and finally Minor Threat. I fell the hardest for Minor threat and Black Flag and collected all Ian and Henry related music. Nothing compares to sound of punk it is real and non-conformist. I think what makes the misfits so great is that they were punk with out being so punk. By this I mean they had the style, were loud and fast but were not so anti-everything. They did'nt sing about how crappy the Goverment was they sang about horror movies! Also there was Glenn's voice not a typical punker voice? I found this bible when I transfered to HighPoint (Im 21), I wasted a whole weekend just staring at the page. I have almost everything printed out into binders. I use the discographies when I attend record shows, so I don't buy the same thing twice. I have never been able to stay one particular music for longer then 2 weeks, but it has been 3 years now and I can't stop. Im the most unsuspecting fiend as well, though I have revealed myself to some of you. I am a baseball player, Republican, clean cut, and work at Abercrombie and Fitch (flannels and stuff). It blows people away to see me in a nice flannel one day and misfits apparel another. I suspect that there are more of you out there like me, come out of the closet. The misfits are for everyone, and yes it gave me a hemorage when I saw Danzig and half the crowd was there to chant "MOTHER!!!". I'd just like to thank Mark for getting all this together. In my oppinion he is responsibl for the box set, the reunion, and growth of the popularity for the Misfits. D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 11:30:02 -0500 (EST) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: EVB's price guide Fiends, This EVB's price as found in issue 36 dec. 1st 1994 [content deleted by She. See EVB's updated list below] D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 13:44:39 -0500 From: Vince Nestico Subject: X-Files Anyone who caught the X-Files Friday got to hear a NEW Danzig song (well part of it anyway) Does anyone know the name of that song, I called the record store and they dont have any idea when the damn X-files soundtrack is coming out, Any info Is welcome. Later. Mean people SUCK Nice People swallow VJN ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 14:54:25 -0500 Subject: 138, at last! To all, Well, hopefully this will be the best Bible yet. To celebrate, I'll be typing up a few more articles (by request, in fact) for the page, so keep your eyes peeled. This will include the recent Max. Rock N Roll, so if you're dying to read it, it'll probably be up there soon. I'd just like to say thanks to everyone. I've been on this list since October or November of 1994, (thanks to Jim!) and everyone was really cool back then, and they still are now. I wish I had something wise and witty to say, but I don't. Chris ------------------------------ From: ewebb@ycp.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:02:45 EST Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #137 Mark and everyone else.... I would go to the dinner in NYC in a heartbeat. being that i plan on getting into the city at noon so i can find the record store and a parking spot, ill be able to attend. "I STILL NEED FUCKING DIRECTION...ARRRRRGHHHHHGGHHAAAHEHE..." shouted the disgruntled boy who plans on taking I-95 north from baltimore and can offer a ride to people along the way!!!!!! Thank you EVB for the Glennmobile info. my life is now a little more complete. eric, ewebb@ycp.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:32:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Tyler Subject: X-Files OK I know I heard Danzig on the X-Files last Friday??? Anyone know what song it was??? Lisa T. "I love animals. It's people that make me puke." --Harry "Nails" Niles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 21:31:42 -0800 From: asbnm@VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU Subject: NEW DANZIG SONG On the hotline you can hear a new Danzig song...The number's been changed too, it's now:201-939-1267. On Friday's X-Files there was a new danzig song too (not the same one), it must be on the X-Files soundtrack... Um, D.O.A. is pplaying in anchorage soon (maybe they allready did) Anyways, they new Danzig song is really good. Seeya Chris Myers "Yeah c'mon c'mon now take the chance, that's right, let's dance" - Metallica, "Devil Dance" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 08:37:21 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: correction I'd like to make a correction to my post this week (how cg got into the misfits) I stated that London Dungeon was on WAU. As we all know it's not! It should be, but it's not. I get it stuck in my head because Mommy... goes into London dungeon but it's cut out :( Sorry to all the people that were just itching to flame me after such a gross error. maybe next time :) C.G. ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:28:08 -0500 Subject: BILE138 It has come. Issue 138. To commemorate this hallowed event, I'd like to share something that I wrote with all of you. It's not too long so I hope you all like it. It's Misfits related in a few ways. The lead singer in the story is Glenn based. The guitarists are based on Jerry Only and Doyle in terms of their intensity and power. It sort of sums up what the Misfits mean to me. Their just unyielding fury and strength, coming across as much more than mere musicians from Lodi. Their whole image and persona speaks to me the same way horror movies like "the Evil Dead" or "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" do. They're something from beyond. Something that touches you at a very primal level. Chilling your bones. Boiling your blood. Churning your adrenal glands. It quite literally drives you insane. Anyway, here it is ... "She" by BILE666 She stepped out from the shadows. None of those on line out in front of the club saw her as she stepped out of the blackness of a doorway and walked towards them to join their numbers. She walked past the scalpers hawking over-priced tickets and bootleg t-shirts. She walked past the degenerate nuisances selling cheap trinkets or pitifully making jesters of themselves for the scorn and jeers of the crowd with the hopes of getting a handful of spare change in return. She walked past those buying chemical death by the bag, by the tablet, by the sheet. She walked among the crowd, weaving in and out of the throngs. As with everything else in her life, no one saw her, even as she brushed against them, past them. She stood in line with them. Savoring the cold as it blew through her long, black dress and against her white, white skin. Inhaling the smell of smoke and dirt and filth that filled the air. She closed her long-lashed black eyes and thought about the night that laid ahead of her. About what she had come here, to this club, for. Just like everyone else in line, she too was there for the show. But unlike any of them, she had been invited. No. She had been requested. Called. It was her fate to be there. Her destiny. This night was the night she had waited for her entire life. The night that would give her life meaning. Justification. She knew now that all she had ever gone through had been one long test. A test to see if she was worthy. And she'd been chosen. Out of all those who could have been, it had been her. In the end, it was her. Tears of joy brimmed her dark eyes. She was happy. So, so very happy. Happier than she'd ever been before. The club's front doors opened wide like the gates to Hell and the crowd yelled out. Cheered. It was time. The line began to move. The security guards took the tickets from cold hands and tore them in half. After the males on line were frisked, the crowd was ushered into the lobby. Some, many in fact, surrounded a few small tables covered with merchandise to spend their parents' money on t-shirts and other items. Others who were old enough or pretended as much went to the long bar in order to fill their bellies with foul tasting liquor and other fermented and distilled brews. She wanted neither new clothes nor drinks. She wanted nothing anyone had to sell. She sat down on a ledge along one of the side walls. She sat there and looked at herself in the floor-to-ceiling mirrors that were set against the wall across from her. Her hair was long, straight, and black. It acted as a frame for her smooth, porcelain-like white face. Many in the crowd had skin as white or whiter than her own. But unlike theirs, her deathly pale skin was not the product of face paint or pancake make-up. Her long, thin frame was clothed all in black. From her long over coat and sweater to her tights and knee-high, lace-up boots. She was beautiful enough to be an angel. But no one would mistake her as one of God's. The crowd began to fill the club. They pushed against each other in their attempts to get as close to the stage as they could. Those a bit more timid or unacquainted with the club's atmosphere lingered towards the back or along the sides as she had done. The noise and din of the crowd was almost as loud as the music playing through unseen speakers. She watched them all from her seat. She watched them all laugh and talk and mingle. She watched them wait as she did for everything to begin. She watched them. And she waited. She had to wait through the sets of two opening acts she'd never heard of before and never wanted to again. When the lights went down for the third time, the crowd erupted with blood-chilling screams and howls. It was time. They all clamored to get closer to the stage. A huge movie screen that had been used both to hide the stage and to play videos and clips from horror movies on to keep the crowd entertained between sets rose up into the ceiling. When the audience saw the stage, the ornamentation that had been arranged there, transforming it into some sort of crude, unholy temple, their yells grew louder and more fervent, sounding like Romans waiting for the Christians to be thrown to the lions. Animal bones and skulls hung from the center mic stand. Chains adorned with hooks and barbs hung from the ceiling over the stage, swaying back and forth. Large prints as tall as the ceiling of ancient woodcuts and paintings all exalting some danse macabre in one form or another stood at the back of the stage. It was an altar at which the audience could worship their new dark gods. Surrounded by smoke, the band took the stage. They stood by their instruments. The guitarist on the left. The bassist on the right. The drummer in back of his kit set back behind his other two bandmates. All three looked as if they were gets of the same demon-womb. Bodies tall and strong. Hair, hanginging in their faces, dark and long. Clothes black as pitch and adorned with spikes. She could feel her heart race within her chest. She could feel sweat begin to drip down her back beneath her clothes. It was time. The band began to play a slow, choking funeral dirge as their leader walked out onto the stage. She watched him as he made his way across the stage and took his place between the twins of evil playing guitars on either side of him. She looked at him. He was so beautiful. So very, very beautiful. More beautiful than she used to think Jesus was when she would see him, nailed to a cross, in church when her mother would bring her to mass when she was just a little girl. She wanted to run her long, skinny white fingers through the black hair that hung down past his shoulders. She wanted to move her sweaty hands along the muscles of his arms, his chest, his back. She wanted to lick the sweat that was already beginning to drip from his pores and onto his white, white skin. She wanted him to come to her. To be hers. Again. As he had been nights ago. He had come to her out of the dark of night as she laid in her little girl's bed, listening to his words. Listening to him sing to her. Sing to her about death and the grave. Pain and suffering. Hell. He had come to her like an incubus, rising out of the darkness of some stygian abyss. He had come to her. Taken her. Devoured her alive. Rended her apart. Ripped her open. Filled her with his burning. Covered her with his darkness. She had never felt a love like his ever before. Never before. He had told her to come to him, to come to him this night. To come to him and show him if she loved him as much as he loved her. To come to him and he'd be hers. He'd be hers until forever and take her away from her life. She had waited her whole life for him to come to her. She knew that now. He was her fate. Her destiny. She would never be alone again. Never ... alone ... again ... The audience screamed for him. They reached out. Strained. Tried to reach their hands out to touch him. He was their messiah. Their shepherd. Their dark savior. He stood up on the stage, a beast in man's skin. He rose his strong, powerful arms up into the air and looked across the crowd. His body snapped forward like a whip, his arms coming down like hammers, as the group exploded into a furious rhythm. Their heads jerking up and down. Their arms working instruments like machines. He rocked back and forth. His head, his arms, his body jerking tensely. He took the mic in one of his gloved hands and began to sing. Her mouth hung open a bit as the first words rang from his mouth. She heard nothing else but his singing, his words. He was singing to her. Only to her. Just to her. She knew it. She watched him sing. She watched him move. He was so beautiful. She loved him more than life itself. He would be hers. Soon enough he would be hers. Only hers. Just hers. Their first song ended with screams and cheers of adulation and adoration from the audience. They thundered into their next song. He enchanted the audience. Drew them to him. Like a flame does to moths. He moved on the stage like an animal in the madness and thrall of bloodlust. She watched him. She wanted to be with him so badly it was almost too much for her to bear to look upon him any longer. But she couldn't stop looking at him no matter how much it hurt her. She saw him look across the crowd, looking at all those worshipping at his feet. A shudder ran through her body as his chilling gaze fell upon her. He looked into her black eyes with his own. She could feel his eyes breathing into her. Seething. She could feel him reaching out to her. Caressing her soul with his black touch. Calling to her. His eyes fell upon her for only the slightest of moments but to her it seemed to last an eternity. It was time. She took off her long, black overcoat and let it drop to her feet. She uncinched her belt and dropped it next to her coat. Out from under her long dress she pulled the long, narrow, black bag. She'd had it tied to her waist, along her thin frame, with her belt beneath her clothes. The guards hadn't checked her. If they had, they would have wanted to know what the long, hard form underneath her dress was. But they hadn't. She unraveled the bag and let it fall to the floor. She took the gleaming sword in both her hands. It was time. Those in the audience around her didn't know what was going on until the hot blood spurting from the open jugular of the mohawked boy she decapitated splashed across their faces like water coming out of some out of control garden hose. They began screaming. They tried to get away from her. They pushed against the rest of the crowd that stood there listening to the deafening music, ignorant of the horror that was unfolding. A girl with starched, bleached-blonde hair tried to run from her but, when she could find no way to escape, held her arms out to keep the sword from biting into her soft, tender flesh. But it was of little use. She cut off the girl's hands at the wrists with a sing hacking swing. She ran the girl through, ramming the tip of the sword right between the handless girl's young, taut breasts. She forced it the blade up. Up through the girl's chest. Up through and out of the meat and bone of her narrow shoulders. She moved further into the crowd. Hacking and slicing her way closer. Closer to him. A security guard twice her size came at her. She swung low and cut off both his legs at the knees. His immense trunk landed on his useless stumps. He looked at himself, what had become of him, what she had done to him, and screamed out in horror. She lifted the sword up over her head and brought it down on him with all her strength. She brought it down on him, halving his head, cutting through his muscled chest and stomach, down through his groin. She cut him in two with a shower of blood, piss, and bile, her sword striking the ground as it exited his once strong body. Out of the corner of her eye she saw a skin-headed boy wearing a leather jacket studded with spikes launch himself at her. She side-stepped his stupidly heroic attack and, spinning around, slashed him deeply across his back, cutting through the leather of his jacket, cutting through his pink, tattooed flesh, and severing his spine. He was dead before he hit the ground with a thud and a splatter of blood. She killed her way up to the stage. She killed everyone in her path. She killed the ones trying to run away from her. She killed the ones who confronted her. She killed those too bewildered to do either. She killed everyone. The band played on, their music a soundtrack to the massacre she had given birth to. She kept on killing. Killing and killing and killing. For the briefest of moments, she looked up at the stage, looked up at him, to see if he saw what she was doing. What she was doing for him. For him and only him. She looked up at him, wondering if he saw her there, saw her there in the audience. Saw her, covered in the blood of countless victims. Saw her, standing amid the grue and gore of the bloodfeast she had set before him. She looked at him, she looked up at him, and saw him watching her. Saw his eyes on her. Calling her to him. Calling her closer to him. Telling her that he would be hers. That after the last body dropped, after the last red drop of blood fell, after the last death rattle shuddered, he would be hers. He would be hers forever. When she saw him smile at her, at her, a shiver ran through her and shook her soul. A tear ran down her blood-streaked cheek. She gripped the sword tighter in her hands. She bit her bottom lip. She bit her bottom lip and smiled. He was hers. Forever. She'd never been this happy before ... I hope you all liked my contribution to this issue of issues. If you didn't, please just keep it to your self (I'm very delicate, as you've just seen). Before I go, I'd just like to mention to those who don't know or weren't watching that a Danzig song was used on Friday's episode of the X-Files. It must be from Danzig V because I've never heard it before. It sound really good to me. It was hard to hear it too good though because it was used as background music instead of opening a scene or setting atmosphere to a scene w/o dialogue. Thus far, Filter, Live, and Danzig have allowed their music to be used on the show. And I read recently that a White Zombie song will be gracing the show as well. My favorite t.v. show seems to have a lot of big name fans. Anyway, I'd like to end with a quote from my hero Jerry Only ... "Don't say 'Oh ... the Misfits are back ... they're jumping on the punk bandwagon' ... because we'll smash them all [speaking of new "punk" bands like Green Day, the Offspring, etc.] ... and you can line up the heavy metal guys behind them too because they ain't much either ..." Merry 138 ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:06:21 -0500 (EST) From: DLK Subject: List Some people didnt get it.... to subscribe to the list you NEED 2 references. I cant let people in just because they sent me a letter saying . So PLEASE send me 2 ref's at least, that way I can get enough people on the list and we can put out our first issue. Gala@cris.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:06:16 -0500 From: She Subject: Times Square I talked to Bobby on Saturday and he informed me that his new band Times Square will be performing the following shows: March 3 The Continental New York City April 5 CBGB New York City I also talked to Jerry who told me that he's trying to get in touch with Robo for the signing. mark ------------------------------ From: Fiend6666@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 19:58:05 -0500 Subject: How I got into the MISFITS!!!! Well, I got into the Misfits when I was about thirteen. I was just getting into punk-listening to Minor Threat, Dead Kennedys, Exploited...etc. I remember looking through Thrasher magazine's and constantly seeing Misfits shirts in Ads from Sessions and other places. Then one day a friend of my older sister's brought me a bunch of tapes to check out-and Walk Among Us was in there. I put it in my walkman and was totally blown away. Once I heard 20 Eyes I turned into a total Misfits freak + had to get everything Misfits out there. Over the years I collected tons Of originals, 7", LP's, bootlegs, and just about everything else out there. It was funny that since I just had a copy Of Walk Among Us + didn't know who any of the members were at the time, that I got Danzig that year and wasn't aware that he was the singer of the Misfits until a couple weeks later when I saw the insert Of Walk Among us. During those years I was in the Danzig Force(Remember That? Used to get Danzig stuff in the mail every week!)And handed out Flyers and stuff all the time. I also got to go into a Danzig show early and hang out with the guys for a couple hours before the show started. They were all really cool. And I was in the Doyle Fan Club too. I wrote letters to them, and one day got a call from Jerry!! He's really a great guy and over the years he's sent me CD's, tapes, LOTS of posters, and also sent Me An Autographed Jerry poster I have on my wall. He also had Tapes from the other bands on CYCLOPIAN music label sent to me. EMPIRE HIDEOUS(Great Goth Band) and SLAUGHTERED GRACE. I talked to Jerry frequently on the phone and he had me send him Copies and information on all the bootlegs I had that were being sold out there. Then he called me up one day and set it up so I could go to a Studio nearby that Manufactured the KRYST THE KONQUEROR EP and I got to listen to the whole Unreleased Kryst album. I can't say enough about Jerry, He's one hell of a guy that really cares about his fans + did a lot of shit for me he didn't have to do. I really think that the New Misfits are going to be great-even without Glenn. I hope to see a lot of people here at the Bible at the Box-set Signing in NY-I can't wait!!!!!!! Oh, Any fiends from the Buffalo area-I'd like to hear from you-E-mail Me!!!! -Evil Fiend ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:18:01 -0500 From: Jason Appleby Subject: Gold disc So, What is the gold Earth A.D. disc worth? I happen to have gotten one at a used CD store for a ridiculously low price. -- jay@interlog.com ------------------------------ From: Timmy999@sunbelt.net Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: One month in 30 nights in the pit! This is Timmy999 i just became recently acquainted with the Misfits Bible{Any plans for it to be distributed by the Gideons at middle schools across the world?). I think it is a great idea i just wish the Clash had one. The misfits and me: well the first time i ever remember encountering anything to do with the Misfits was in my 10th grade Spanish II class. Somebody had scratched the Misfits logo into one of the desks (thinking back they did quite a good job too.) I remember pondering "what would inspire such devotion as to carve this intricate dedication to a coterie of misfits?" At this time i had never even heard of the word punk or any of its dogma/virtues. About a year and a half passed and i continued to listen to things that I am now embaressed to admit listening to,( you would not be able to get it out of me even with the aid of the latest advances in torture technology.) When one of my friends (Rick) who i had sort of lost contact with for awhile mentioned the Misfits as a great band we became friends again, but i still did not listen to the Misfits. I think if he had played them for me I would have been hooked, but unfortunately i guess i was sort of narrow minded about trying things new(fortunately i went through a complete and utter reversal), but he was not as pushy as i am when people are doing foolish things. We became good friends again(going bowling, hanging out and stuff.) Then one day after we went bowling i was told that he had killed himself. I was stricken down that day he was as happy as i had ever seen him. 0 fucking % of any sadness, no suicidal overtones at all. NONE. He really was a "Misfit" you know. He was not into punk(knew nothing of it. I think he found out about the Misfits through the cover the metal band metalica did of them.) so he probably thought he would never find a place to"fit in" in the world. I know i could have been a better friend to him now than i was then. But "what ifs" can drive you crazy so i put those out of my mind. So i after his death i wanted to try to find a little bit about him because there was obviously more going on with him than i had any inkling of. With the help of another friend who had recently "discovered" the Misfits i listened to them and i am happy to say i have been hooked ever since. So do yourself a favor and introduce a friend or somebody into the Misfits (i am not saying that would have changed anything in my case.) I am just saying we can never have enough "real" fiends in the world. OK. Other stuff i saw a Misfits poster on a Kids In The Hall episode, just a brief glimse, i flipped. Does anybody know where i can get this or any other Misfits poster. I also had this magazine once that had all of these cool Misfits shirts, but the company was untrustworthy based on how they had dicked with my friends previosly( it was some fucking company that specialized in metal bands, can't trust those cunts as far as you can throw them), thusly i did not risk it. I want more Misfits shirts (the new ones are horrid especially the "ghost rider" one. Pathetic) so please help me out in this reguard. Not that any one asked but i think this is the forum for it. My "new" Misfits opinion: I would love to see them. While it would be cool, it would obviously be akin to an Elvis impersonator. This reincarnation of the band seems as far away from what the Misfits where as when Glenn does Misfits covers with his current band. Both are exciting but can not possibly recapture the "magic" so to speak. The Pistols reunion is another thing altogether...... Does anybody have any tips on how to keep my Devilock in a point? One final thougt the Misfits on eMpTyV makes me break out in cold sweats. NO NO NO. Fiends e-mail me. ------------------------------ From: Timmy999@sunbelt.net Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Warning to the NCAA: We Bite! Oh yeah i neglected to mention in my previous mammoth posting. Another way the Misfits are meaningful to me is that when i watch the Kentucky Wildcats play (i am a lifelong fan. Fuck the bandwagon cunts.) I play plenty of Misfits songs, espicially We Bite, Attitude, Horror Hotel, Last Caress, Devil's Whorehouse, while watching the games. I am not foolish enough to believe this is the reason that they excel i just think the Misfits songs correspond well with their style of play. They just really get me up for the game. When we go on a 25-2 run i bounce off the walls to Attitude! Don't bother pointing out any contradictions between loving sports and being a punk. Thanks again. Timmy999 ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:51:01 -0500 Subject: shameless plug i'm proud to say i just cut my hair into a devilock! i'm sure nobody cares, but what the hell? i'll be sporting it at our (bane) next gig, this saturday, february 3. if you are in the lynchburg/ madison heights area of virginia e-mail me if you want and i'll get you to the show if you want. but, i don't think anyone else on this list is in that area. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach "...devilock!..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 00:51:58 -0500 (EST) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: let's all be pals, at least for one issue hey fiends- Unless I've made a horrible mistake, this is issue 138, and I would like to look past our usual bickering and extend the hand of friendship to all you folks... the punk rock kids and the heavy metal kids; the Glenn haters and the Glenn lovers; the Crimson Ghosts and the Brett Famas alike. Extra special thanks to Mark, who makes all this possible and knows more about the misfits than they do themselves. end of sap! Let's face it, we all love the Misfits. I've only been into them for three or four years, but there is nothing better than driving around screaming misfits songs at the top of your lungs, stopping only to irritate convenience store workers and commit random acts of vandalism because there is nothing better to do in your crappy town that deserves nothing less than to be burned to cinders. OK, so I'm no Jello Biafra, but i'm a punk in my own pitiful way. 'til next time, when it's back to vicious personal attacks and irrational ranting! aon-1 ------------------------------ From: bengl@interserv.com Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 22:10:57 -0800 Subject: stuff n' some stuff wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww EEEEEEEEEEEE wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww EE wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww EE wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww EEEEEEEEEE wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww EE wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww wwwwww EEEEEEEEEEEE AA RRRRRRRR EEEEEEEEEEE AA AA RRRRRRR EE AA AA RR RR EE AAAAAAAAA RRRRRR EEEEEEEEE AA AA RR R EE AA AA RR R EEEEEEEEEEEE 1111 33333 88888 1111 33333 33333 88888 88888 1111 3333 33333 88888 88888 1111 33333 88888 88888 1111 33333 88888 88888 1111 33333 88888888 1111 333333 88888 88888 1111 333333 88888 88888 1111 3333 333333 88888 88888 1111 33333 33333 88888 88888 1111 33333 8888888888 Sorry I had a burst of inspiration, Any way I thik the devillock cover cand is really cooland that thos misfits lyrics were hilariouse. Again I apologize if my online sculpture(call it what you will) messes anything up. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 03:37:44 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Subscribe I am new to both the internet and the Misfits scene. I started listening the Misfits after developing a liking to Danzig. I am not as knowledgeable about the band, now or during the Glenn years and would appreciate any help. I did hear a Danzig song on the recent episode of the X-files, and don't know where it is from. Can someone tell me? And what is happening with Danzig after the break-up? And what is this talk about Danzig 5? Someone Help ME please!!!!! Jason St. Jacques ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:28:29 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: delay fiends, I've decided to postpone the posting of part 2 of the Mike Stax Jerry Only Interview. Since this issue #138 is probably going to be huge, I figured it would just add to the mayhem. I'll post it on Thursday. Sorry for any inconveniences. CG ------------------------------ From: "SEAFARER!Andrew McLaughlin"@uunet.uu.net Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 10:31:00 EST Subject: How do you get off the Danzig Mailing List at Def... Subject: How do you get off the Danzig Mailing List at Def Jam/American? Has anyone got a clue how to get off the Danzig Mailing List at Def Jam/American? I hate to take up valuable space here on this list, but, no matter what I seem to do I keep getting e-mail from the list, which is far from interesting and more than annoying. Any help is greatly appreciated. I am definitely excited about the box set release. As far as getting together beforehand, that would be a great idea. Does anyone have the inside scoop on the release date in the event that the release is postponed. Not that getting together wouldn't be great, but I am not so sure I want to be around 30-40 disgruntled Misfit fans if it is postponed (Just kiddin'). I dunno, maybe if Mark could put something out on the Bible or the Web Page on that Monday so we all have confirmation. I know for myself that I am coming down from Connecticut for the event. Also, does anyone call the Danzig hotline frequently? It would be great if someone who calls regularly could let the list know whats up. I am pretty sure that Glenn doesn't really give too much input, but it would be good to know whats new out there. Anyhow, thanks. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:24:11 -0500 From: cbmed@cdx.net Subject: ? My name is Jason. I have just recently (within the last two years) started listening to Danzig, the Misfits, and Samhain. I am a huge fan of all of the works, and am optimistic, though ignorant of the upcoming stuff with Jerry/Doyle. I just want to know everything about all involved. I play guitar and sing in a three-piece punk/hardcore original band that throws in a few covers of Misfits tunes. Can someone pass on the word to the guys in the band that my band would love to open for them and will send a tape once we get a response. I live in Burlington, Ontario, Canada, and am looking for any information. If the Misfits come somewhere between Toronto and Buffalo, my band can/will be there! I am in great need of copies of all the bands music, I only have M. Col.II, Misfits, S. In., Fin. Des., N.C.F. All Danzig stuff, but from the sounds of it, everyone hates Glenn so I won't mention him. I hope someone responds, I need help to get into the #misfits channel, I'm not very good with all this internet stuff. Well until I get a response, I Ain't No Goddam Son-of-a-Bitch!!!! Jason St. Jacques cbmed@cdx.net ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:48:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: 1,2,3,4, E chord"we..." Misc. stuff For B.O.cults influence on punk rock check out the min.men's(also fIREHOSE's) version of red and black. I have read a vampira interview where she says the best imitation of her was in the Damned's plan 9 video. Anybody seen it? To the person who asked about doyle playing Ibenez Icemen guitars, Ibenez was making an(ugly) paul stanley model a few years ago, maybe still are. i dont think those guitars were ever really hard to find anyway. Side note to fiends, Something weird video sells T-shirts w/ Misfits related movie stuff on them. I dont know if the quality is good or price or anything like that ,but they have Bloodfeast,Plan9,Vampira(wonder if vampi gets any cash) and a gore,gore,girls shirt for screeching weasel fans. They also have true cannible postcards drawn by the likes of Chuck Biscuits and Rob Zombie Anyway, i hope everything goes great for the 'fits. the tour sounds promising, hope everything goes through. The crashing at fan's houses ethic is as old as punk it self. More power to the Misfits. and congrat's to our host and everybody else on#138 jamil ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:19:42 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #137 Hey Fiends! Just bought my tickets to see the 'fits here in London. Am I stoked!!! The fuck I'm not. Long live the Misfits! Thanx ------------------------------ From: HBKBOBA@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:15:02 -0500 Subject: MIsFits Bible 138 Inbreeders --------------- Whoa o-o Inbreeders Whoa Insest goin on in every home you feel your mom it makes your dad turn angry red 'cause next time you cant fake it, next thought ejaculation givin head is all you wanna know Whoa o-o Inbreeders Whoa Tools Night Out ----------------------- This is my tools night out plesae dont cum on me you know your mom i ate her out tools in every form this is my tools night out more tools 4 tools hell I turned into a Martian (cant think of a title) -------------------------------- Position of your mom is a terrible thing its a transformation with an urge to spill not the body of a man of gearth not the face that I cum on first (verse 2) I'm cummin on the city streets and on a unsuspecting human girl and in my human pants this world is mine to own oh! 20 guys in my bed 20 girls give me head 20 thighs and my head and there all the same there all the same! My fiend Ryan and I were having a Ghouls Night Out once and re-wrote some songs for our laughing pleasure. Maybe Weird Al will want to buy them. Happy 138! HBK Bob Ayotte ------------------------------ From: SETH STOKES Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:52:31 -5 Subject: Pissed? This is my first letter to the Misfits Bible and just wanted to ask why is Glenn such an ass when he talk or is confronted with something about The Misfits? I thought it might just the attitude he has always had. But he seems to think anything with The Misfits or his past with The Misfits is a waste of time and a mistake. Why? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:59:30 -0500 From: EVB Subject: Misfits & Samhain Collectibles price guide Well, can you believe we made it to issue #138? Since a couple of people have asked me lately, I've written up a basic price guide to rare Misfits and Samhain releases. The orginal version of this appeared back in a Bible numbered in the #30's - I've tried to update it and give a little more info. Remember though, the bottom line is supply and demand - if enough people want something and there aren't enough to go around whoever is selling it can get as much as somebody is willing to pay! Certainly there are people who will charge less for these as well as those who charge more - these are meant as a guide only. However if somebody is asking for "best offers" and neither one of you know what an item is worth, these prices would make very fair offers to give. These prices are averaged out from ones I generally see in collector's shops & record shows as well as in GOLDMINE magazine (a great place to check for rarities - BTW I wrote a Misfits discography for them a few years back when I friend of mine wrote an article for them) Prices are for Mint/Near Mint records with all original inserts, inner sleeves etc if applicable. For lesser condition figure downwards accordingly. SINGLES - "Cough/Cool" 7" on Blank Records - good luck! I haven't seen one for sale in a few years and I know some mega fanatic collectors looking for it. I wouldn't expect to see it for less than $300-500, and I heard of one going for $800 in Germany where there are some real completists. (I paid about $175 for mine about 7 years ago) "Bullet" - Black vinyl, folded lyric sheet, gatefold sleeve w/ band member heads on back cover, $150-$175 "Bullet - Red Vinyl, folded lyric sheet, "Better Dead on Red" back cover, $125-150 "Bullet - Black Vinyl, folded lyric sheet, "Better Dead on red" Back cover, $125 "Horror Business" - yellow vinyl, insert detailing spooky occurances during recording, regular sleeve $125-150 "Horror Business" - withdrawn sleeve only (these were never sold with record) $300 "Horror Business" - black vinyl very limited, have never heard of one sold but Bobby Steele currently has one for sale priced at $2,000 "Night of the Living Dead" - $100-150 "Halloween" - orange (regular) sleeve with folded lyric sheet - $80-$125 "Halloween" - black & white test sleeve - I have never seen one for sale but I would expect this to fetch $300-$500 "Three Hits from Hell" red sleeve, $60-$100 "Three Hits From hell" white vinyl, white sleeve $150-$175 "Evilive" - regular issue $60-$90 "Evilive" numbered Fiend Club edition with insert $100-150 "Evilive" set with 3 different covers of Glenn, Jerry, Doyle - I have never seen one of these come up for sale but I would expect a mint set to go for approximately $600- $1,000 [Glenn Danzig] "Who Killed Marilyn" black vinyl $100-$125 [Glenn Danzig] "Who Killed Marilyn" purple vinyl $125-$150 [Glenn Danzig] "Who Killed Marilyn" black and purple swirled - have never seen this for sale, would expect it to fetch $300-$400 Acetates - These very seldom come up for sale and it is hard to even guess a price on them. I know someone with one of the "Teenagers from Mars" acetates which was a gift from Jerry Only - when it was shipped the insured value was $2,000 so it is fair to guess that would be the replacement value. Any others would be valued at a minimum of several hundred dollars. Acetates are test pressings made as a backup in ccase anything happens to the master tapes. They are made of grooved wax on a metal disc and are EXTREMELY fragile - each acetate can only be played 2 or 3 times before the grooves are run down. 12" (Black Vinyl) "Beware" - $200-$250 "Walk Among Us" - first pressing pink cover, with inner lyric sleeve about $50-$80, "Walk Among Us" - Italian pressing, with inner lyric sleeve, pink cover $100-$150 "Walk Among Us" - 2nd pressing purple cover, with inner lyric sleeve, pink lettering $25-$50 "Walk Among Us" - reissue purple cover, with inner lyric sleeve, green lettering $10-10 "Evilive" German 12" Production $40-$60 "Wolfs Blood/Earth AD" German issue $50-$75 "Unholy Passion" black vinyl- $40-$50 "Initium" black vinyl with lyric sheet $50 "November Coming Fire" black vinyl with lyric sheet $30 Other Plan 9 albums on black vinyl, $10-$25 Colored vinyl 12" - "Legacy of Brutality" white vinyl $80-$125 "Legacy of Brutality" red vinyl $80-$125 "Legacy of Brutality" pink vinyl - good luck on this gem. I lucked out years ago & got one for $320 thru an auction in GOLDMINE (I think I was the only person who noticed the ad and bid) - I have heard of it selling at auction for anywhere between $800 (confirmed) to $2,000 (unconfirmed) "Die Die My Darling" white vinyl $80-$125 "Die Die My Darling" purple vinyl $80-125 "Earth AD" yellow-gold $100-$200 "Earth AD" purple $100-$200 "Earth AD" clear $100-$200 "Earth AD" green $250-300 "Initium" red vinyl $75 - $100 "Initium" marbled vinyl $150-250 "Initium" white vinyl $150-250 "Initium" pink vinyl $200-up? (only know of 2 of these so far) "November Coming Fire" orange vinyl $125-$150 "Unholy Passion" white vinyl $75-$100 "Unholy Passion" red vinyl $75-$100 CD's: (just a few of the scarcer ones) "Earth AD/Evilive" - German only issue, $50-$75 (this is the only CD appearance of "Evilive") "Earth AD" - US limited gold CD $20-$40 As far as telling originals from bootlegs: Use some common sense - its not THAT hard to tell if something was pressed up yesterday or its 15 years old! Generally anything that old is going to show some age - for example my "Cough/Cool" 7" has some very slight browning on the edge of the sleeve where the paper is a little more brittle. I'd also be VERY wary of any price that's too good to resist and also anything that age that looks absolutely mint as there are VERY close counterfeits of most of the early singles floating around! If anybody has specific questions please e-mail me directly. For example there is a 12" Beware boot that is nearly identical to the original - even the writing in the runoff grooves & the label on the record itself. The only difference is in the half tone screen if you look REAL closely since the cover art was shot from a copy of the record & not the original art. I think the writing on the spine is slightly off kilter too if I remember correctly. Hope you find this useful! - EVB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:07:39 -0500 From: She Subject: Punk Floyd The famous Punk Floyd article on the Misfits is now available on the web page thanks to Herman Mutant (the author) who kindly made it available to us. Check it out. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:28:16 -0500 From: "Horror Businessman." Subject: A Wonderful Finding Happy 138th everyone! Four years ago, I was in Kentucky and went to this one record store and saw the Earth AD CD for $10. I thought it was just another CD, but it was gold. Shit, back then it was just another CD, until like 3 mos. ago. Then I found out they only pressed a couple thousand. Pretty good luck...although finding ANY 7" in Cleveland is fuckin impossible. Also, my favorite song, Horror Business, I thought the chorus went "Out one night-crowded door-I wanted you." Sounds right to me. I know there's about 1000 other stories, so I won't bore anyone. Thanks Mark,and everyone else whose helped me, Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 19:43:03 -0800 From: "J. Tetrick" Subject: kryst the conqueror kryst is the lowest form of sell out butt rock. these no talent losers have to come the the realisation that they were flying on the heels of Danzigs EARLY genious. In "Maximum Rock and Roll" that idiot Jerry was talking as if Glenn had unjustly taken all of the credit for the Misfits. Any chance of a true misfits return died when Danzig made his ascent to MTV and annabolic steroids. ------------------------------ From: Azolsons@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:04:43 -0500 Subject: mike called!! not too long ago I wrote to Jerry asking if I could help out at the Phoenix show. Today I get home from school and my father tells me that i got a call from some guy named Mike. He tells me that my mother got the call and she would tell me about it when she got in from work. So I waited until she got in and she says that Michael from the Misfits called. I was like "No fucking way!!! I missed him!!" my mother had this whole conversation with him and he told her that when they come to Phoenix that I can help them get ready. that was the highlight of my life. Man, I can't wait till they get here. He also said that he would try to call back so he can talk to me. I hope he does. it would be really cool! If there is anyone from Phoenix or the general area, e-mail me! Also, has anyone ever realized how short Danzig is? I saw him at the Verotic signing and he was a midget! I'm like 6'1 and I towered over him. If there is anyone from Az then I'll see you at the show. I think they might play at Mesa Amp. they are coming here this summer. later! Todd (NIKE) Olson - A TRUE FIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! happy 138 ------------------------------ From: Dagon7ckr@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:23:20 -0500 Subject: Have a 'fit. After lurking for about 60 issues of the bible, I thought I'd try and get a post in for issue 138. First I'd like to say my favorite part of the bible (besides the latest news on the group) are the semi-regular Misfits sightings from newbies who get all excited about the Saved By the Bell "Evilive" poster. Cracks me up every time. Least favorite is the pointless Glenn bashing. Nuff said. Anyway, thought I'd add a couple of my own Misfits/Danzig sightings. Fist was a few years ago when I had the chance to hang out w/the guys from Metallica. I was talking to James and asked him what Glenn was like. He thought for a second and with a sardonic twinkle in his eye said "He's got something to say... " Pretty funny. I'm sure anyone who reads the bible gets it. The second "sighting" was of the Danzig variety. When I saw Type O Negative open for Danzig in Seattle during the 4p tour Pete Steele changed the lyrics on Black No. 1 to: "On her milk white neck, Glenn Danzig's mark." Of course the crowd went wild. Now I've got a question. Last friday I watched the X Files for about the third time ever, and from out of nowhere a new Danzig song belts out. Does anyone know if this is only gonna be on the forthcoming XF soundtrack or is it also gonna be on Danzig V. Finally, I'm really excited for the 'fits box, and I really hope any records the new lineup releases don't suck... but I'm not holding my breath. Dagon ------------------------------ From: JohnGrimm@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:33:59 -0500 Subject: We are 138 We are ALL 138!! Archfiend, Johnathan M. Grimm JohnGrimm@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:28:25 -0500 From: She Subject: I am 138 Here's something interesting for special issue #138. I am going to express some opinions. I just want to point out one unique thing about Glenn. Even with all of his strange quirks and ideas that some people might not like, he's always been there for the fans. He does more autograph sessions than anyone I've ever heard of, and he sits outside after every show until every fan that's there has had a chance to meet him and get an autograph. Even if you look back at the Misfits days, there's the Fiend Club and the special autographed editions of the Evilive 7" singles. Those of you who have some of the old shows on tape, should be able to remember several instances in which he yells at the 'trouble makers' in the crowd about having a good time and letting everyone enjoy the show. There's an interview on the page in which Glenn says that image is as important as the music. He's an entertainer, and he wants the fans to have something they can enjoy. How many of you would like The Misfits or Samhain or Danzig, etc, if they had worn shorts and had pink mustaches? Admit it, you like the image. Glenn knows what he's doing... It took Glenn 20 years or so to get to where he is now (wherever that is). Everybody has their bad day, or bad days. Glenn's still probably pretty much the same inside as that skinny short punk with an attitude that sang for The Misfits. How many of us got into the music because of Manny or Googy or Eerie or John Christ? Tell Glenn he's sold out and he'll probably laugh in your face (or do something else to your face). What do you know about him or why he does what he does? I'm not sure how a person can sell out by always doing exactly what they want. As far as I can tell, Glenn has always done exactly what he's said he would do. Just go read all the interviews on the page and see if he's contradicted himself. Ask Jerry or Bobby or Steve Zing or anyone else who's been in a band with Glenn if he's sold out and they'll probably say 'no way'. Calling him a sell-out or other fancy names only demonstrates how little you know about the man. m1a3r8k ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:46:52 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hatcher Subject: We Are 138 OK, so I've waited until the last minute (11:30 Monday). Hopefully this will still go into 138. I just have a very short, probably pretty boring story, but anyways here goes... How I got heavily into the Misfits: A few years ago I was working at a mill making bedspreads. This was one of the most horrible places I've ever worked. Basically I walked around carrying bags of spreads to be dyed and inhaled ungodly amounts of lint. I hacked up white shit from my lungs for a month after I quit. We wore hard hats and I eventually started wearing a paper air filter over my mouth. Of course I got bored with this and one day got a hold of a magic marker. Me and another guy drew skulls and other weird shit on our hardhats and teeth (more like fangs) on our air masks. OK, now to the point of this. Picture two guys walking around a plant with hardhats with skulls, etc. and a air mask with big teeth singing "London Dungeon." This was how we generally looked. When our boss came to tell us something we would generally break out in some Misfits song. I don't know, for some reason I got written up quite a bit at this job. Lets see, one other tidbit. I drive a bus for the University of Georgia. Generally when I get a bus with a tape player, I play the Misfits. I've found that it really annoyes the hell out of passengers. Some of them get off after one stop. OK, so all that was boring and pretty pointless, but fuck it. I thought I should contribute something to 138. Chris Hatcher aka. LordB ------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:05:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steev L." Subject: i hope this makes it into 138.. Well, since this is supposed to go into issue 138, I guess I'll describe how I got into the Misfits. Back in 1993, when I was a junior in High School, I had just started watching Headbanger's Ball. I was into only a few bands: Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, Ministry, etc. So one night I'm watching Headbanger's Ball, and this video comes on. The lead singer sounded like Elvis to me. I'm watching the video and thinking "Shit, this blows. Who would listen to this trash?"(oops). It was the Danzig video for "Dirty Black Summer". A few months later, I saw another video by Danzig, this time on Beavis & Butthead. It was for "How the Gods Kill". I hated that song immediately also. My friend pointed out to me Glenn's inverted cross and notified me that this meant he was a Satan-worshipper. I hated it even more. Eventually, I realized that I shouldn't care if some band was satanic(even though Danzig isn't satanic, but I didn't know then) because I'm agnostic. Then, one day I saw another video on Beavis&Butthead....this one was for "Mother". As soon as I saw Glenn's face I said something like "Oh no. Another shitty song from Danzig". Well, I actually enjoyed this song. A few weeks later I saw the video for "Mother '93", and that was enough to get me to go out and buy Danzig's first album. I eventually collected all of the Danzig albums. Then one day I read more about Glenn's past in this book called "Metallica: The Frayed Ends of Metal". It talked about the Misfits and Samhain, and how metallica covered two 'Fits tunes. Finally, I got the Metallica box set for Christmas '93 and that was enough for me to go out and buy the first Misfits collection. I was disappointed that the album didn't have "Last Caress" on it, but I just wanted to hear what the Misfits sounded like. Slowly but surely, I bought all the official Misfits albums available on CD except for Earth AD. Then, slowly, my interest in the Misfits faded. I got into various other music, mainly death/doom/black metal. One day I got an account here at FAU(Florida Atlantic University) and found the Misfits page. I was amazed at all the information, and the discographies blew me away! This place rejuvenated my interest in the Misfits almost instantly. Well, fiends, that pretty much sums up how I got into the Misfits. I hope this makes it into issue 138. Oh, by the way,is there anyone out there who thought when they heard "Braineaters" the first time that they were saying "Why can't we have some cunt?" instead of "Why can't we have some guts?". Later ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 139 Thursday, February 1st 1996 Today's Topics: Misfits Beliefs and Misrepresentations Tribute... STUFF WANTED Samhain's "Initium" Re: Misfits Bible, #138 Re: Misfits Bible, #138 Re: Misfits Bible, #138 Shirts, Thanks and Inbreeders in defense of reality. We are 139 jerry's bass Punk Rock WTG!! Bobby Steele misfits new groups Misfits Bible, #138 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:58:03 0000 From: wtm108@psu.edu Subject: Misfits Beliefs and Misrepresentations I thought now might be a good time to share with the rest of the fiends a hair brained idea that me and my friends developed after listening to the misfits for a good while. The idea consist of the main two concepts: 1. Glenn Danzig killed Doyle 2. After Glenn killed him, he ate him How that came around is actually a fairly long story that spans many years, and frankly, I don't remember all the details. We had no reason to believe such a thing, seeing that we had seen all the mailings the Doyle fan club had put out. We were even convinced that there was a Danzig song that documented the event with a passage that went something like this: "Well I hated that band, so I took command, placed the gun in my hand, and blew his head across the land. I'll drink his blood tonight." I don't know why we believed this for so long, probably just because it was fun, and didn't want to believe in what was reality. When I found Mark's page this summer, My friends and I gave up all ties to this Idea. Two other fraudulent beliefs we had were that Jerry Only and Errie Vaghn were the same person, as were Robo and Chuck Biscuits(I think that one was because of the Black Flag connection.). My favorite lyrical misrepresentations: Real My Mind "Children in Heat" "Two roads, and ME" "Why can't we have some fucking "Why can't we have some fucking rotting guts" Kool-aid." (of course, right now I still think the word rotting should be replaced with "homemade". "I've got Wolf's Blood running "I'm fucking up my mommy's vase." through my veins." I quick word on various lyric interpretations. To this point I've never heard anyone mention that when the misfits originally wrote all their songs, they never wrote anything down. Without having the "real" lyrics ever written down in concrete it seems possible to me that over time the lryics under went an evolution, and in the instances when people are hearing two different words at the same part, it is because at one time or another, both words were used, not necessarily because one is right and one is wrong. It wasn't very hard for them the change the lyrics to rip on Bobby Steele, and during a live performance I'd expect their to be a few deviations from how the song was originally written. Here's to 138 more issues of the bible, the Neurotic Knee Splitter ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:42:01 -0500 Subject: Tribute... A COAT I made my song a coat Covered with embroideries Out of old mythologies >From heel to throat; But the fools caught it, Wore it in the world's eyes As though they'd wrought it. Song, let them take it, For there's more enterprise In walking naked. [W.B. Yeats, "Responsibilities" 1914] Thanks Glenn for all the great songs. PDH ------------------------------ From: Stewart Muir Gallacher <9243471G@student.gla.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:47:36 BST Subject: STUFF WANTED Does anyone out there have any of the following that they would be willing to sell/trade :- Any photos of the Misfits, Samhain, Danzig, the Undead Rosemary's Baby E.P. (Eerie's old band) 3 Hits from Hell (bootleg that is high quality reproduction of originial ie. coloured sleeve) Halloween 7" (as above) Who Killed Marilyn 7" ( as above- not the version with the blue xeroxed cover) Any video footage of the Undead Kryst the Conqueror E.P. Any Undead 7"s/E.P.s (except Verbal Abuse) I have stuff I would be willing to trade for any of the above or alternatively I would be happy to pay $$. Also if anyone is interested in trading Misfits/Samhain/Danzig stuff please contact me. Thanks!! -Stewart Gallacher E-mail : 9243471g@student.gla.ac.uk P.S. I am also interested in trading stuff by Metallica and the Mummies!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:16:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steev L." Subject: Samhain's "Initium" First of all, issue 138 was great. I especially liked the little play about Glenn and Jerry. That was hilarious! The song is cool too. It's too bad my post didn't make it into the version of 138 that was sent out to everyone, but at least it made it on to the web page version. I guess that's because I sent my post out at around 12 AM Tuesday. And now, on to what I was going to say in this message. I bought Samhain's "Initium" on CD the other day because I finally found the damn thing. Anyway, are the songs "Initium" and "Samhain" supposed to be on the same CD track? Mine are. Track 1 has "Initium" on it, then it goes right into "Samhain". I realized this when I put it onto track 2 and I'm listening to the song and all of the sudden I'm hearing "Black Dream" instead of "Samhain". Is this a pressing error or something? Later ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:03:12 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel McGarrigan Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #138 To the guy who wrote the bakery story: Your story rules, you should write it in a zine, or with your permission, may I write it in mine? It's a ska/Oi!/punk zine, you will be given credit. Thanks for renforcing my points that this whole Danzig vs. Misfits thing is so silly. A fiend at heart, Danny Boi! "Skinhead, skinhead, other there, What's it like to have no hair? Is it hot or is it cold? What's it like to- BE BALD"- Playground chant from the early Seventies ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:08:54 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel McGarrigan Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #138 Also for anybody likes Oi punk The Business is coming out of the woodwork!! The Business, Sheer Terror, and Murphy's Law all in the same show!!!!! Ohhh god I could have a ....gasm!!!!! Check yer loca1l clubs this is not a show to miss. Also The Last Resort is back together with their with Arthur Kay on vocals, should be interesting.. Danny Boi! Ps. Emily are you near Philly be any chance, I'm at Trenton State College 20 min away!!! ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #138 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:56:06 -0500 (EST) > From: Ed Dycus > > Now, maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but does this mean they're > going to be wasting valuable boxed-set space by rereleasing these > albums?!? And is there going to be any other live stuff besides Evilive? > I hope I'm worrying over nothiing, because I can't believe they'd just > put out those albums again. Isn't there enough unreleased material to > fill 4 CD's? Don't worry, there's lots of unreleased stuff on the box. I think the wording was bad on the promo postcard... > From: Ken Graf > > What th hell is Glenn's last name? I always thought it was Whitman, but I saw > some people asking for the spelling, so I must be wrong. Could you either > tell me or tell me where to find it on the www misfits site? Let's clear this up everybody. In the 1/7/83 "Why Be Something You're Not" video, the interviewer asks all the band members their names. Doyle says "Doyle, guitar", Jerry says his part, and Glenn says "Slim Whitman, idiot". SLIM WHITMAN! Not Glenn Whitman. Slim Whitman was some sort of country performer in the 1960's. Glenn was kidding. It was just a JOKE! At one time I had all the real names of each Misfits and Samhain member on the web page, but I removed them because it's really nobody's business. > From: Baggio Steve > > Hey, does anybody know whatever happened to ROBO? About 4 or 5 issues ago I briefly explained about Robo. After the Misfits broke up in 1983, Jerry and Doyle moved out to Vernon, and Robo did too. He worked at Proedge with them for a while and then later at a different company that shared the same building. He was married for many years - I think he might have separated from his wife recently. At this time, he is visiting his family in Cali, Columbia. > From: "I'm not going to tell you." > > Does anyone know about a Misfits' disc called "Beware and the Rest...? This bootleg was put out during the summer of '94 and was a compilation of many hard to find tracks from the various 7" singles. Everything on it had been released by 1981. Bootlegs have no value, so theoretically anything more than a penny is too much to pay for a bootleg. However, the regular price for this boot seems to be $20. There's really no point in purchasing bootlegs like this since all the songs will soon be made available again on the box set. > From: ? > seen one in the last 2 years. What I did see was a single w/ the title" the > Fiendz." There was a picture on the jacket that looked like the Misfits, or > some guys with blacked out eyes, but I didn't get a close look at it. Any > clues? I think the title was called "Having fun" or something like that. I The Fiendz are another horror punk band. They toured with The Undead for several years, and became Bobby's backup band after he fired the other members of The Undead. > From: Fiend6666@aol.com You mentioned something about 2 other bands being released on Cyclopean Music. Could you tell us more about them? Jerry has never mentioned this to me. Issue #138 was the biggest by far ever, reaching around 115000 bytes. The previous largest issue had been issue #136 at 88000. I wonder when our next big issue will be. I really enjoyed #138 and I hope everyone else did too. It's always nice to learn about the other subscribers and maybe stray just a little from the regular path... mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:48:22 -0500 (EST) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Shirts, Thanks and Inbreeders From: Timmy999@sunbelt.net: >I want more Misfits shirts (the new ones are horrid especially the "ghost >rider" one. Pathetic) so please help me out in this reguard. No offense Tim but no, no, no. Dont tell people that. Listen everybody, I've got all 6 of the new shirts and they rule. They're only 15 bucks and each and every one is worth it. Buy these shirts! From: bengl@interserv.com >Anyway I think the devilock cover band is really cool From: Jaime Obergfell >......DEVILOCK RULES!!!!!!!!! Thank You my brothers! >HBK Bob Ayotte: >Inbreeders --------------- >Whoa o-o >Inbreeders Whoa >Insest goin on in every home >you feel your mom >it makes your dad turn angry red Bob man, I think you owe me some money for doctor bills, I busted a nut and a half reading that! I want more. >From: "J. Tetrick" >kryst is the lowest form of sell out butt rock. these no talent losers have to >come the the realisation that they were flying on the heels of Danzigs EARLY >genious. In "Maximum Rock and Roll" that idiot Jerry was talking as if Glenn >had unjustly taken all of the credit for the Misfits. Any chance of a true >misfits return died when Danzig made his ascent to MTV and annabolic steroids. Uh,huh,huh..........we're gonna have to kick your ass or something, Buttmunch! Later, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: Geoffrey King