Misfits Bible, Number 151 Tuesday, March 12th 1996 Today's Topics: msg from Jerry / Bobby Steele Responses MISFITS U.S. Tour Misfitz of Ska black light 7" mar 21 gig distortion&sound Re: Lots o' shit cough cool MARS ATTACKS! lyrics What's this? Last Post. blah, blah, blah Contest winners Stuff and Bobby Steele stuff in general Box Set bbs3 assorted ramblings Box set Violent world, boxed ears Earth A.D. Vote For Your Top 5 MISFITS Songs!!! irc more replies Tour/Undead Help Wanted!! Re: Misfits Bible, #150 Re: Misfits Bible, #150 bobby Have a good sleep... detroit bobby stuff Help. Fiends danzig III non-pic disc Bible meetings at the Misfits Concerts! we are not sick men of asia Earth A.D. CD METAL MANIACS RE: Misfits Bible, #150 Re: Misfits Bible, #150 THE HEAT IS ON concrete corner Sex Pistols reunion!!! #150 The Box Set... Misfit Albums FOR SALE Metala Maniacs Misfits Silkscreens real quick... More Questions Michale Sorry Fiends Let's keep Bobby online! Box Set MiSFiT's Box Set just a few random comments and questions Help Me Please The Manimals ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:33:06 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: msg from Jerry / Bobby Steele -------A message From Jerry------ re: Detroit Shows First off a copy of a short fax sent to Ken Kriete: Ken, Harpo's is out..Bad Karma..Try the State Theater Jerry ask and you shall recieve fiends--cg Fiends, I was thinking about the message about Harpo's and that fiends would call us whores, I find that disheartening. How do we know what's up with a place if we never played there or never heard of it. Our number one concern is the welfare of our fiends, and their safety. Our goal is to have the most aggressive show on Earth without damage or loss of human life. Please fiends, be respectful to everyone. Keep us informed of all situations because we can only make decisions based on the data we have. If there's something we need to know then you must tell us. Harpo's holds 3000+ and would have been a huge show for Detroit, that's all we knew. I'd rather play to 50 people and have a good time than get anyone hurt. Understand that the loss in cash to downscale the venue is the least I can do for a just and noble cause. As always the Fiend Club has our total commitment. ----Jerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last week Bobby Steele wrote a considerable amount here's my response to him: Bobby, Since you are new to this list I'll introduce myself, I'm the Crimson Ghost call me Jim if you like or C.G., as most others do. I always liked your playing and never had a bad word to say about you until now. I find last thursday's post made by you to be...well... childish. I'd never argue with you about things that happened when you were in the band. But I will on things that I know about. You see I worked for Jerry & Doy's Dad up until 4/95. I saw Jerry everyday and as the head office type person I made sure he got all his faxes concerning anything. Needless to say alot of information passed under my eyes. I'm sorry I have to say this in a public forum but you decided to trash my friends in public. So I'm forced to reciprocate in kind. There are almost 700 fiends that receive this list and we try not to have too much bias. This post will attempt to shed some light on what you've said. I'm not trying to flame you. I've talked to a few other people on this one, so I'm not relying on my own memory. To the best my knowledge you were asked if you wanted to partake in the lawsuit. At the time I guess you thought it was hopeless and declined the offer. Well gee guess what, it wasn't so hopeless was it. What makes you think that you are owed anything that you didn't work for? I remember Frank & Jerry spred out all over the conference room with literally hundreds of papers for countless hours searching for anything that would be helpful. Your name was never part of any document, you were never listed as a plaintiff. When I read your post, having knowledge of the above, Your entire post just sounded like sour grapes. I couldn't help but think what a baby you sound like. I really think you should stop using your disability as a crutch. Why can't you just be Bobby Steele, not Bobby Steele with a disabilty. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, every interview I've ever read you've always pointed out that your a cripple, Why? Do you feel that you are so inferior that the only way you can get attention is by sympathy. Don't be a fool. We would listen to anything you have to say without having to feel sorry for you. You also came across sounding like you were begging, I didn't count, but how many times did you say that you were broke? Are we supposed to feel sorry for you about this fact too? Get a job. >THE UNDEAD do so well with ACT YOUR RAGE (which was released with >the $6,000.00 I got from selling my old 'FITS 45's), while KRYST >the CONQUERROR was a failure despite the limitless wealth that >Jerry has? I can speak for myself only on this but I really think that neither the Undead, Kryst, Samhain or Danzig even come close to the power & rage of the nucleus, The Misfits. As far as Jerry's limitless wealth, this is so laughable. You are so off base it's not even funny. I think I can speak with some authority on that matter. It's no body's business what anybody grosses so let's just say that the Kryst release was done on a typical DIY shoestring. Unlike you selling you Misfits collection Jerry worked his ass off in his old man's sweat shop to get that CD out. Kinda sounds like another band we all know and love, don't it. The scenario of Jerry working himself ragged so his band can do things is becomming all to familiar. As far as the Kryst vocalist issue goes. Any body with half a brain can listen to the record and hear that it's Jeff Scott Soto. You see Bobby, I can say that. Unlike Jerry I didn't promise the man that I wouldn't. What's your point with that comment? > I won't give out anybody's real names, home addresses or phone >numbers. I won't give info that might invade other's privacy, but >I will be truthful as to anything pertaining to my days as a >MISFIT, things I did - good or bad, right or wrong. The statute of >limitations is up, so I have no criminal charges to fear. Why didn't you just post that in the first place? That would have been useful information that everybody would have enjoyed reading. Instead you decided to make slanderous remarks about everybody else. Not only slanderous but libelous since the internet is viewed by the courts as written documents. and some of the remarks you've made are not beyond the statute of limitations. I have to be honest with you Bobby, I forwarded your post to Jerry & Co. Needless to say he was not too happy about the things that you said. I was going to post his reply to this list but I felt it was too harsh. It's nobody's business. This is between You, Jerry & Glenn, nobody else. Let's keep it that way. Everybody says your a great guy and all, but you just came across sounding pathetic. btw: You can get unlimited internet access for only $19.99/month I guess if you let up on your marijuana habit, as you so graciously informed us, you just might be able to afford some other things. I may not be able to get on irc as much as I usually do in the next few weeks. I'm doing the roadie gig w/ Buddy Miles & friends. Anybody that needs to talk to me please do so via email. The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ #misfits channel op find me on Undernet every night around 9:30 or so Nick = CrmsnGhst I'll be in #misfits (of course) anyone who can't figure out irc email me I'll help ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 18:24:08 -0500 From: She Subject: Responses As always, responding to the infinite amount of posts... Some of you fiends need to PAY attention... > this one's for Mark: > do you think it would be a good idea for the misfits or maybe eerie von to > release some kind of book with a shitload of photos. i mean, to me, and i > think to a lot of misfits fans, seeing pictures of the band (especially the > earlier ones) is almost as cool as hearing the songs. Hey, I think it's a great idea. Fiends, I try to let the band know when you have ideas that are good like this. What else can I do? You should let the band know too! Write to the PO box address. > this may be a bit anal to think about, but do you think the unreleased > alternate takes (like from the MSP and Fairlawn sessions) will ever be > released? one little cd would be enough to contain all of those songs. There are only 6 altnerate versions that I know of that weren't released. If Caroline got the tapes, they put the stuff out. Some tapes are not in their hands yet. > maybe all of us should start bugging the shit out of Caroline for this stuff. > does anyone know their email address? It's on the page of course. Their email address is - caroline@interramp.com and their page is http://www.caroline.com/ They do receive tthe Misfits Bible and they do post from time to time. > There are a number of discrepencies between the Bible discography and the > one in the Box. Any ideas on this? Though the non-plan 9 stuff is pretty > glossed over in the Box. The only difference between the discographies are on the Evilive 7" numbers. I can't figure out who's right. > From: The Mocellas > 2)mark...what's the deal with the new song(s) posting? i hope you can help > me and the rest of the fiends out here..new songs? rad! I was given lyrics to post so fiends will be able to recognize the songs at the shows. That's all. > 3)how many of the glow-in-the-dark seven inches are they planning on > pressing? i live in philly and can probobly see 'em at the trocadero when > they come(HOLY SHIT!), but i'll be really upset if i can't get one! Didn't I say last issue or so that there would be 10,000? > 4)what's the deal with the caroline sampler c.d. cover shown on the pit page? > does anyone know where i can attain one and/or what's on it? It's in the discography. 6900 of them were pressed. They include the Static Age version of Teenagers From Mars. You can't get it anywhere unless you're really lucky. > From: Nick Veauthier > Since I am one of the many who has not seen the new Misfits, I was just > wondering if someone could tell us what they sound like. I've read some of > the reviews, but I guess this is the "real" question "How does Michale > Graves compare to Glen?" Not that he should be a Glen clone, but how does It's always hard to describe how someone sounds. The best way to find out is to go to the show and find out. Basically he sounds similar to a young Glenn, but different in his own way. No 2 people will sound exactly alike. I have never heard anyone besides Glenn and Michale do the Misfits songs the way I'd like to hear them. He sounds great, and that's all there is to it. > From: Ceng > We Are 138 - This is killer! Fiends: This is a different version than > the one on Collection 2 and, I think, Beware. There is another > guitar track that enters (or is raised pronounced in the mix) right > before the 'solo' and continues to the end. It feels like a Jet > Airplane rushing through my head. Fiends, let's get this straight. These songs were recorded once. One time. There is no alternate version of "We Are 138" or "Last Caress" or "Return Of The Fly". If you like to pretend, then fine... However, one was taken from the master tape, and one was taken from the mixing tape, so there are audible differences such as the 2nd guitar which is more predominant on the Static Age tape. > From: michael kramer > Hey fiends, have a few questions. One, I sent my address to the fiend > club PO box in early February, any idea when I'll get my membership > package? You won't get it. Does anybody read my posts or the information on the page? The packages have all already been mailed out, except for a set of about 600 that will be mailed in April. All the people who made it to the membership package mailing were on the Fiend Club list by about Halloween of '95. > From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS > have not written in a while. As long as someone mentioned the lyrics > to "Return of the Fly," please explain to me how Glenn could possibly > be saying "Helen Delambre." If my ears our working ok there are only > four syllables in that part, so it couldnt work. Possibly "Delambre" > like Del-am-ba-ra but even that sounds wrong to me when I listen to it. It's French. You don't say crescent "Cres-Kent" do you? > The next thing probably should go to Mark but I'm sure others will be > interested as well. Mark, I was wondering if you could make a list of > who appears in all the photos of the box set and in what order. I know > Jerry, Doyle, Glenn, Bobby and to some extent others, but I think it > would be cool to put a face with all the other names. Just a suggestion, > anyone else curious? Come on, this should be easy! I don't put the pictures on the page for nothing. Okay, fine... anyone with a bass guitar is Jerry. Anyone with a microphone in their hand is Glenn. Page 1: Glenn and Bobby's arm Page 2: Glenn and small picture of Jerry Page 9: top - Jerry, Doyle, Glenn middle - Doyle, woman, Glenn, Jerry, mirror Doyle bottom - Jerry, Glenn, Doyle Page 10: Jerry and small picture of Doyle Page 11-12: Glenn, Jerry, Arthur, Doyle Page 13-14: left - Jerry top - Glenn bottom - Glenn, Jerry Page 15-16: top - Glenn, Jim, Franche', Jerry bottom - Jerry, Arthur (writing on wall in back), friend, Glenn, Doyle bottom - mirror image of same photo page 17-18: Joey, Glenn Page 19-20: top - Glenn, Jim, Jerry, Franche' middle - Jerry, Glenn, Doyle bottom - Glenn, Jerry Page 21-22 Jerry, scary man, Doyle, Arthur, Glenn Page 23: Glenn's boot > From: Bobby Steele > Jerry has? If the money isn't so important, as Jerry says; why > won't he give me even $5,000.00 of the $1,000,000.00+ that I've > been led to believe WE were given for COLLECTION II and the BOX > SET? Fiends - this money stuff is really none of our business and should/will be worked out by lawyers and contracts. However, I'm going to try to clear up some stuff here. Let's not speculate on who owes who. None of us have the facts, because it's none of our business. > I was never offered an opportunity to be in on the lawsuit, > although a member of SLAUGHTERED GRACE told me that Jerry named me > as a co-plaintif in the case. According to the band, they contacted Bobby in the late 80's and asked him to help. Bobby was not named as a plaintiff. > We've asked Both Jerry and his lawyer > to send us a copy of the court papers, but they keep putting us > off, so maybe he did sue for me and intends to keep my share of > that also. If he had nothing to hide from me, he'd give me the info > I request. Jerry has signed a non-disclosure agreement and therefore can't supply info. > TO TEEVIE #137: Relations between myself and Jerry are rotten. How > good can relations be with a person who's spent the past > fifteen-years slandering your name - with the sole intent of > destroying your ability to compete in your chosen career; and then > witholding AT LEAST $50,000.00 of advance money that's due to you > (but he's not in it for the money). Again... no advance money. > From: IANXRT@aol.com > WELL I WAS VERY UPSET TO FIND THAT I WASN'T GOING TO BE RECIEVING THE FIEND > CLUB PACKAGE. IF ANYONE WOULDN'T MIND GIVING THEIRS UP THEN I WOULD GRATFULLY > ACCEPT IT; I WOULD EVEN PAY $$ FOR IT. OR AT LEAST PHOTO COPY EVERYTHING THAT > COMES IN THE PACKAGE, PLEASE!!! IT WOULD EVEN BE GREAT TO SEE SCANS ON THE > MISFITS PAGE... PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT IANXRT@aol.com Hey Fiends, those of you who did receive a membership package received 2 copies of everything. Please share with your fellow fiends who didn't get the package. > From: Andrew Share > Just out of curiosity, what was the significance of the Max's Xmas show? > Why was this show the subject of so much anticipation and talk? I guess you missed about 109852 of the back issues. It was going to be released as a live album but wasn't because of overdubs. adios fiends mark ------------------------------ From: KenKriete@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:27:23 -0500 Subject: MISFITS U.S. Tour Misfits Headline Dates : Mon April 29 - Richmond, VA @ Twisters Tue April 30 - Winston-Salem, NC @ Ziggy's Wed May 01 - Washington D.C. @ The New 9:30 Club Thu May 02 - Philadelphia, PA @ The Trocadero Fri May 03 - Asbury Park, NJ @ The Stone Pony Sat May 04 - Providence, RI @ Club Babyhead Sun May 05 - Boston, MA @ The Middle East Mon May 06 - Danbury, CT @ The Sub Zero Tue May 07 - Lancaster, PA @ The Cahmeleon Fri May 10 - Toronto, Ont @ The Opear House Sat May 11 - Detroit, MI @ Harpo's Sun May 12 - Cleveland, OH @ The Odeon D.O.A. will be supporting on all dates. All shows should have tickets on sale at Ticketmaster no later than Monday or Tuesday. All shows are about $10 in adavnce. I think one or two are actually only $8.oo and only one is $12.00. Most shows will be $10 or $12. at the door, if they don't sell out in advance. Every show is all ages, with Boston @ The Middle East Club, being the only exception. That show is 18+, but they are pretty lenient there. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:43:57 -0600 (CST) From: Eric C Graham Subject: Misfitz of Ska hey, this is my first post. Yes, i'm a virgin to the bible. i've been reading for awhile and i don't know if anyone has mentioned it or not, but i'll tell ya about it anyway. my girlfriend just bought me this Cd on dill records called" Misfits of Ska." it was filed under "M" and has the misfits font on the side. it's a compilation of ska bands that dabble in punk. The picture on the disc is from the "Legacy..." CD. it's pretty funny, so if yr anyway interested in Skacore i recommend it. The best band is the Independents. they are supposed to be the "real" Misfits of Ska. I guess they dress like the 'fits and everything. They sound cool as hell. Their song on the comp. is called "Bloody night, Bloody knife," and it's about killing yr prom queen date!? Good shit! check it out. see ya love, eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:03:54 +0100 From: Franz Ardito Subject: black light 7" hello everyone, i'm Franz, the Italian fiend; I've read on Bible #149 that the Misfits are going to release their Black Light single at their concerts. Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to get to one of those gigs, because they're not going to tour anywhere reasonably near the place I live. I was wondering, is anyone willing to help me out and, when the moment comes, get an extra copy of the single (and the poster possibly) for me? I obviously will pay for everything...I will appreciate your help very much. I'm still waiting for my box set to get over here, reading about it on the Bible kinda tired me, i would like to hear it now...well i'm finished. bye Franz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 18:27:38 -0800 From: flex Subject: mar 21 gig hey fiends, guess what i got in my sweaty hands? yup, a ticket for the mar 21 show in stuttgart, germany. haw haw haw. if anyone else is going, please e-mail so we can meet. cheers flex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:25:42 +0100 From: vag1865@comune.bologna.it (Franz Ardito) Subject: distortion&sound >From: cbmed@cdx.net >Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:19:22 -0500 > >Can anyone suggest any fuzz/distortion pedals to me. Anything to get some >of the Misfits sounds. Well, I suggest you the dear old Tube Screamer TS10 by Ibanez, the puke-green one (if possible get the original one, not the new re-edition they made last year): it is not a very fuzzy, mosquitoe-like distortion, but instead it gives you a nice seventies kick-ass sound, especially if you crank your amp volume to 10. I think the sound it gives is far better than those new grunge/fuzz/metal/death/shit pedals that are coming out these last years. If you have a parametric eq boost all the freqs around 6300hz and keep quiet those around 1600hz, 2000hz, and 2500hz: you should get a nice punky/old misfits sound. Enjoy yourself Franz @@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@ @@@ @@@@@@@@ @@! @@! @@@ @@! @@@ @@!@!@@@ @@! @!!!:! @!@!!@! @!@!@!@! @!@@!!@! @!! !!: !!: :!! !!: !!! !!: !!! !!: : : : : : : : :: : :.::.: : e-mail: vag1865@iperbole.bologna.it ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Lots o' shit Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:20:15 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Duran > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:20:45 -0500 (EST) > From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS > Subject: Lots o' shit > > Hey fiends, > Just a couple of things I wanted to address, seeing as though I > have not written in a while. As long as someone mentioned the lyrics > to "Return of the Fly," please explain to me how Glenn could possibly > be saying "Helen Delambre." If my ears our working ok there are only > four syllables in that part, so it couldnt work. Possibly "Delambre" > like Del-am-ba-ra but even that sounds wrong to me when I listen to it. > The reason I ask is because my singer has no clue what to sing there, > so we just fake it with whatever. If anyone has an opinion let me know. > We'll (Devilock) will use your lyrics if they sound right. i'm sure it's sung as is. if you look at the other names mentioned: francois and cecille, you get the idea that the people are of french descent (forgive me, it's been ages since i've seen the original fly movies). given that, i'd always assumed that helen delambre was pronounced he-len de-lamb. any other ideas? > Hey. this is Bobby Steele. I'm only gonna be on here for the month > of March, 1996...to communicate with MISFITS and UNDEAD fans on the > BBS, or whatever it's called. The reason for this is that I got one > of these "free" sample discs to AOL; otherwise, I couldn't afford > to do this on my budget. Y'see, despite the claims of Caroline > Records, I still haven't received as much as a penny for having > been on COLLECTIONs I, II, and the 'BOX-SET', otherwise, I'd have > had my own E-mail address long ago. please don't take this as a shot at bobby, but (and maybe the old timers on the list will recall this) didn't someone once make a joke about how all the original fiends ran out of their 10 free hours? this was in response to someone elses question as to whether any of those fiends were on the bible at the time. )-{ gut-ripper }-( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 18:29:38 -0800 From: flex Subject: cough cool finally got an original copy of cough cool. could anyone who has an original copy please e-mail me so i can compare mine to yours - runout grooves and stuff - i just want to make 100% sure it's an original. thanx flex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:00:44 -0800 From: adam bodnar Subject: MARS ATTACKS! Most Misfits fans know that the Misfits record label PLAN 9 was taken from the Ed Wood Jr. film PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE. They probably also know that Tim Burton did a movie about Mr. Ed Wood Jr. Well, it turns out that Tim Burton is doing a movie called MARS ATTACKS! I wonder if Tim Burton is a Misfits fan, it sure would be great if he used the new Misfits song, also called Mars Attacks, in the movie soundtrack. Does anyone know if Jerry Only knows about the movie and if so, don't you think that the Misfits should have that song on the soundtrack. Both the Misfits and Tim Burton have that horror-style motif. The Fly ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 13:24:11 EST From: Ken Graf Subject: lyrics Hey fiends! Heard that some of you thought some of the lyrics in the box are not 100% correct. For the most part, they seem to be correct, but yes, some seem to be off. Such as in Angefuck, I always thought it was "Dry your thighs and we'll leave, this ain't nothin new anymore" instead of what they have on the sheet. Oh well, I could be wrong. One more thing, I read Bobby Steele's post from last issue. He seems very straightforward and willing to answer people's questions, and I think that it's great that we have an actual Misfit on-line. However, PLEASE, let's not let this turn into the Undead vs. Misfits Bible or the Jerry vs. Bobby Bible. Yes it's cool that Bobby is here, but I sincerely hope that in the future he does not take up 700 lines of bible space per issue. Just my opinion. MARK, any idea on how much tickets will be for the U.S. tour? Have a good one! --Lord Kenatos ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 11:09:02 -0800 From: "-;ceng{-" Subject: What's this? Last Post. Studio: Reel Platinum Client: Plan 9 Artist: Misfits Producer: G. Danzig Engineer: Bob ????a Side 1: Bullet Horror Business Teenagers from Mars Night of the Living Dead Where Eagles Date Vampira Skulls I Turned into a Martian Side 2: 20 Eyes Violent World London Dungeon Ghoul's Night Out Halloween Die, Die my Darling Mommy, can I go out and kill tonight? ... ***to me it might be the Plan 9 Walk Among Us.. Mark? Jerry? Bobby? Cindy? Marsha? ------------------------------ From: MACH@emuvax.emich.edu Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:49:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: blah, blah, blah Hey fiends, I just recently recieved my box set and i love it. But I am not here to tell you how great I think it is, or how it could have been better. You see, I have been reading the past few issues and I am sick of seeing the same regurgitated nonsense about the box set. It really is a waste of time to complain about the box set because there is nothing that can be changed now, so why bother. I would like to thank everyone at Caroline and the Misfits for creating such a masterpiece. Peace out. Randy Mach mach@emuvax.emich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:50:57 +0000 From: Jake Starr/ADAM WEST Subject: Contest winners Thanks to all who entered my t-shirt contest. I decided to make four second prizes as well to keep everybody happy. Anyway, the questions and answers were: 1) Name three songs from the Misfits first show at CBGB's in 1977? Bullet, Hollywood Babylon, West End Avenue, She, In the Doorways, Harpies in the Night, Feline Nursery 2) Name the songs that Lyle Preslar played guitar on Samhain's "Initium"? Black Dream, Macabre, Horror Biz, The Shift 3) Name the only band, according to the Misfits website, that has covered "Cough/Cool"? Now this was the tough one... yeah, right: ADAM WEST The first prize winner was Aaron "Horror Businessman." He wins the t-shirt plus two upcoming ADAM WEST 7"s. The second prize winners were Chris Hatcher "LordB", Gerry Blaylock, Daniel Rodrigues, and Jamil. These four guys will be sent one copy of each of the two new ADAM WEST 7"s. More info on those 7"s to come. Rest assured, most fiends will want them! Thanks to everybody for making this such a pleasant experience! ******************************************************** * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * * c/o Fandango Records * * 1805 T Street, NW #A * * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * * (202) 483-0065 * * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * * http://exclamation.com/webtrax/punk/misc/aw.html * ******************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:32:36 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Stuff and Bobby Steele Some stuff from the last Bible: B.F. Fama (am I spelling it right?) mentioned how he liked the version of "Hybrid Moments" on LEGACY better than the STATIC AGE version. Wrong, wrong, wrong!! Listen again to the LEGACY version... Glenn's shitty bass overdub has some kind of problem with feedback. As the song progresses, you hear this "BEEEEEEEEEEE" sound that gets louder and louder to the end of the song. It's not so noticable on the box set CD, but on my vinyl it was enough to make the song almost unbearable to listen to, after I first started noticing it. I think the STATIC AGE version is a much better recording of what's one of my favorite Misfits songs. TO BOBBY STEELE: ---------------- Man oh man. Where can I start here? Bobby, I don't know you, I don't know Jerry, and I don't know Glenn. I've spoken to Glenn on a couple of occasions, I've had some dealings/correspondence with Jerry and the new Misfits recently, but the first I've heard from you is your long diatribes in the last Misfits Bible. My impression of Glenn: Basically a very nice guy, but also very ambitious and apparently not above stepping on the backs of some (former) friends to get where he wants to go. I think he's basically gotten there by now, and more power to him if he wants to enjoy his situation and do as he sees fit. My impression of Jerry: A VERY nice and generous person, who loves showmanship and being in the limelight. He is very giving to his fans, and I DO NOT believe he's "in it for the money" as you say. My impression of Bobby Steele: A sorry, pathetic whiner. Bobby, you go ON AND ON about how much Jerry is in it for the money: "Look at poor, disadvantaged Bobby Steele, and then look at rich tycoon Jerry with his 'infinite resources', trying to cash in." I dunno Bobby, looks to me like the whole time everybody and his mother was walking around wearing Misfits T-Shirts, Misfits patches, Misfits whatever else, bootleg or otherwise, Jerry and his brother were working in a machine shop making craft knives. So what if they work for their dad? Where the fuck was Bobby Steele all this time? Playing rock star with some two-bit punk outfits, running around with his hair-sprayed hair and his leather pants looking like a late 80's Alice Cooper, and complaining about how poor he is. For years now I've read interviews with you where every time someone brings up the Misfits, you come out with this story, "They say I was doing all this stuff to fuck with them but look at me, I'm so poor I can't afford a grain of rice, how could poor Bobby Steele do anything wrong?" Oh, poor poor Bobby Steele. Look at how successful Glenn, and now Jerry, have become, and poor forgotten crippled Bobby Steele has to play his vintage guitars all by himself and nobody will help him out. Poor Bobby Steele, reduced to standing on a stage with a taped "back-up band", a guitar, his nine toes, and a tin can to toss quarters into. O, HOW MY HEART BLEEDS! Glenn Danzig is AFRAID of Bobby Steele! Glenn Danzig HATES Bobby Steele because he is a CRIPPLE! >choke< >sob< The Misfits doing a tour would make everybody tons of money... but only if they brought back Glenn and BOBBY STEELE! Bobby Steele is a CRUSADER for IMPORTANT ISSUES, against the BIG GOVERNMENT and BIG CORPORATIONS -- he's "little people", he's one of US! Unlike big, evil Glenn, Jerry, and -- what the fuck?! -- The fuckin' GO-GO'S??!! Bobby Steele is so broke he can't afford an E-Mail address -- see how the SYSTEM is KEEPING HIM DOWN, and not letting him speak his true and factual side of the story? Bobby Steele gave the Misfits "two years of loyal service"... and yet somehow he owns a piece of the Misfits, they wouldn't be the Misfits without him. Jerry needs Bobby Steele, because KRYST THE CONQUEROR was a FAILURE while the Undead were an unqualified success (unfortunately still leaving Bobby Steele as broke and pitiable as Oliver Twist). I can't speak for whether or not Bobby is owed money for the work he did on Misfits recordings. Until I have the paperwork in front of me I can make no comment on that one way or another, because that is 100% a legal and contractual issue, and nobody on this list is in any position to speak about that. Bobby, if you have legal problems with regard to getting paid for work you did on prior Misfits albums, that issue is between yourself, Jerry, and Caroline records. It is tactless of you to air those issues in a public forum, and probably your doing so is enough cause for legal action. It also tells me that you are unable to find appropriate redress through legal channels because your claims are unfounded, and that is why you choose to vent your dirty laundry in this fashion. I don't care how many asshole stunts Glenn Danzig has pulled in the past with regard to the Misfits, he still has a good measure of my respect. Now that I've gotten to know a little bit about what has been going on with Jerry and Doyle, they have the same. Bobby Steele has none of my respect. Please, whatever carpet you crawled out from under, go back. -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@sentient.com) San Francisco, California, USA ------------------------------ From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCONO" Subject: stuff in general Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 13:44:00 PST Fiends, First of all I've gotta recommend the vid. that Evan O'Brien is selling of the Misfits '95 Halloween show, it's the best quality Misfits vid. I've seen to date. Also for Nick Veauthier, this is a good way to find out how Michael Graves compares to Glenn. I think he fills the role pretty good, as far as vocals and stage presence. Also, Monday afternoon I got a call from Jerry....answering machine got the pleasure. I couldn't believe it, he called to inform me that he was out of the glow shirts (placed an order obviously) talk about fiend appreciation. How many other bands would call and let you know about your order. That's it- Later Chris ------------------------------ Subject: Box Set From: Chris Myers Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 12:16:14 AST Ok, SO I'm a big MetallicA fan, in fact they are my favorite band. But putting that and my love for punk aside....Doesnt it seem just a LITTLE odd that the Misfits Box set is as much as the MetallicA one? The Misfits box Set has 4 CDs, a pin, and a book, in a very cool coffin box. The MetallicA box set has 3 CDs, 3Video's, a 72 page book and a stencil, in a "sturdier" Mini-Road Case. Call me kooky, call me wacky, but it just seems a little odd they want the same amount for the Misfits box set, it should be a little less. ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:36:14 -0500 Subject: bbs3 Hey Fiends, Is there anybody out there who hasn't gotten the BOX SET, yet? I gotta say; ya gotta get this thing. It's the best - short of re-mixing the whole mess - which is a task none of us would want to take on. I've hardly had a chance to take disc 3 out of my player. I got two sets that have two disc 2's.. I'm convinced we need laws to stop drugs in the workplace... I spotted an error on my last post RE: RATTFINK. Here's the way it was supposed to go: to cbmed (#141) If you write to me and send me your address, I'll see if I can write down the RAT FINK solo for you if you can read music. It's actually very simple...just fast. If I had a scanner here, I'd draw a diagram. Anyway, I'll see what I can do. It's basically a 'B' triad at the 11th fret with a 'D#' lead note - then making it a suspended chord by using your pinky to make the D# into an E (same as the intro) Then I slide into a typical Chuck Berry/ Keith Richards lick on the twelfth fret(bending the A on the third string up to double the B and then striking the B and E together). I then repeated the same B triad riff, only I play it on the second, third, and fourth strings at the 16th fret, putting me in the right position for the final lick (which I took from Jimmy Page on "communication Breakdown") using the fourth finger on the third string at the 16th fret; I bend the note up to meet the C# on the second string at the 14th fret, then I pick the F# on the first string at the 14th fret (bar the 2nd and 3rd string with your index finger) then I pick the E on the 2nd string at the 17th fret (use your pinky), followed by the C# on the 2nd string at the 14th fret. While doing this lick, keep your first finger barreing the C# and F#. Practice this riff slowly at first until the notes are all staccatto and clear. Good luck - I hope that was clear. If you're in the New York area, you can come to a gig and I'll show it to ya if things aren't too crazy. Other news here is that this is having an effect on my relations with THE MISFITS. Their manager has been in touch with mine (how Hollywood - your people talk to my people). He was a bit upset that I might say things that'll hurt them. I instructed my manager to tell him that I'm only here to give you an opportunity to see what I'm really like, as opposed to the way I'm portrayed in their interviews. If they're upset about me talking about not being paid yet...pay me. It's as simple as that. They know I'm entitled to the money. I understand they're concerned about how they're gonna be accepted on this upcoming tour, so I've asked for them to give me some decent amount of money - as an act of good faith until we can get together after their tour. If they do, I'll let you know. It'd make me feel a lot better, than just more idle promises. The money would come in handy right now, since I'm trying to bring THE UNDEAD over the top now. I could even get my teeth fixed. The hardest part about this should be in the split of the Master Sound Productions (MSP) sessions. These were started with me playing guitar, and then Doyle came into the picture after I had laid down about 80% of what I wanted to do. So, I'm listening very carefully, and writing a detailed analyses of where I can point out my parts. Some things are obvious, while others are so poorly mixed it's almost impossible to discern what's there. We'll have to make some kind of compromise. Here's your next set of questions............ > From: Stewart Muir Gallacher <9243471G@STUDENT.GLA.AC.UK> > Fist off, i am a big fan of his playing, and the era > in which he played guitar is my favourite line-up- I think they > sounded the most original in this period, and his distinctive and > catchy guitar playing was a big part of this. > I was wondering what sort of equipment he used during his time in > the Misfits- I have NEVER seen a single picture of him onstage > with the band (apart from the shot of his arm from the box set) > and i have been curious as to what kind of guitar he used, etc.? > I am also a big Undead fan- my favourite tunes being Undead, > Little Slave to Fashion Stewart, Well, I answered the question on equipment on yesterday's post, hopefully you saw that by now. I guess there'll be some overlap with some questions. Thanks. I don't know if you have the Box Set in the U.K. yet, but when you get it, listen to what FRANCHE is playing on THEME FOR A JACKAL. That guitar is burned into the back of my mind. That's the part of the STATIC AGE recordings that I remembered best for some reason. ~~~~~~~~ > From: "ben messer (The Naptown Hellcats formerly stain)" > > This in regard to the questions for Bobby Steele. I just wanted > to say that I'm in the Naptown Hellcats (formerly Stain),band > that accidentally stole your guitar at sloppypalloza. I wanted > to apologize and say that the show kicked ass without seeming > like I'm sucking up or kissing ass, but I guess that's pretty impossible > given the circumstances. However I want to know how long you had > that guitar and if it's the guitar you used in the misfits. Is the > Undead back together? If so will you be touring again soon? If you > come to Indy again we won't steal your guitar. We promise! Thanks > for your time. > Ben Messer Ben, Stop! Thief!!! You're one honest fuckin' guy. You don't know how relieved I was to get that guitar back. YEAH! That was THE PAUL that I played in the MISFITS. In fact, it's the one in the picture of my arm - in the Box Set. Back then, it had the original wood finish. I painted it black in 1980, and after I got 'the boot' I put that guitar away - in my parents basement - and forgot about it. I re-discovered it in '89. Thanks! There's a lot of memories in that guitar. I'm hoping to have THE UNDEAD back together in time for summer. I sure hope we get to play Indy. SLOPPYPALOOZA was quite a memorable experience. Even without having my guitar 'stolen'. Before anyone gets the wrong idea, I better explain. Last July; when THE UNDEAD played at Sloppypalooza, my guitar disapeared after the show. I flipped out!! I had that guitar since THE MISFITS, and it was one of my favorites. I remembered seeing another guitar case in the dressing room. It looked almost exactly like mine - right down to where the covering was torn. I figured that whoever owned that other guitar was the one who had mine too. I heard that Ben & the STAINS nearly shit when they realized the mix-up. Of course we were back in New York when the Stains called Steve Sloppy and told him what they'd done. Luckily, my parents were gonna be driving through Indy the following Sunday, so they made a slight detour and picked it up for me. That gig was a rush. But the heat!!! Next year, they should have a benefit to buy an air conditioner for that place. I almost blacked out a few times during 'Bullet'. That was the best time I've had since playing Louisville, in '90. You better believe I want to go back there. **************************************************************** Thanks again. Keep those questions coming in. As I get the hang of this whole e-mail thing, I'm getting to like it. This is a lot easier than, answering regular mail. If these guys pay me, I'll be able to set up a permanent e-mail address. My friend, COREY, is setting up a TIMES SQUARE web site. Currently, he's just gonna have gig info, but as we get it together, we'll be adding photos, and possibly .wav files, so you can hear the new stuff. Our next gig is a benefit for the Heart Association on Sunday, March 10, at Kenny's Castaways at 10:00pm. We'll be celebrating my birthday on March 16th at the SPIRAL, 244 E Houston St, NYC at midnite. If you want to write to me after this is over my address is: P.O. BOX 358 NEW MILFORD, NJ 07646 IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN BOOKING THE UNDEAD OR TIMES SQUARE, EITHER E-MAIL ME THROUGH THIS PAGE, OR CALL (201)262-7558 This is the number at Post Mortem Records, and I check the messages every few days. Please, since I am broke right now, keep the calls to business or auditions. THANKS BOBBY STEELE ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: assorted ramblings Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:54:36 -0500 (EST) well i finally got the box set, was well worth going over my credit limit. i really didn't like discs 1&2 much, as i've got that stuff, but i guess its easier then playing around w/ the vinyl. disc 3 was great. did anyone else notice the intensified cymbals and snares on TFM & CIH? or was it me? static ages was great also, a pain in the arse to get open tho. i liked the design, sorta chessy, but then again i like that sorta thing. also who cares about if you scratch the box set a lil? what are you more interested in selling in later on or listening to the music? also while eerie's notes won't win the pultzier they are great. it was written from a fans perspective, not some 3rd party. on another note i was so geeked to see detroit on the mini-tour, and then i saw where at and called jerry all sorts of names. all of which he deserves. about harpo's they don't deserve a bands as great as the 'fits. imho, and many others once they hear the venue, it will look as if jerry has sold out. the reason why? back in january a friend got shot and killed outside harpo's, the bouncers did nothing. if jerry really is in it for the fans, not the $15+ that ever harpo's show gets, they he'll understand why he should change it. it's a slap in the face to most people who'd wanna see him, as many, including me will never go back to harpo's. also if he cares about his fans then he won't want them to get shot at, and possibly killed. anf if he ain't in it for the fans, but the $$$, then look at it this way, he'll lose at least 500 people from showing up, thats over $5000. i personally wanna think he's in it for the fans, but if he still plays at harpo's i'll have grave doubts. if anyone knows him, please call him and explain the situation, or he might be the next punk lying on a gurney in detroit. sorry to rant but it just struck me as really, really odd that harpo's was picked, and i hope it gets switched. also i've noticed on earlier relaeses the name of the bands was simply 'misfits', but on collection II and the box set it's 'the misfits.' does this signify a change? or is it just packaging? oh yeah i agree w/ cg on something, listening to the box set whil having sex is a good idea. -- Paul Hahn Dostoevsky should have written hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu for the Dukes of Hazard Check out the speedball page @ http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul/speedball ------------------------------ From: Jerryonly3@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:01:46 -0500 Subject: Box set is the box limmited or anything or can you get it at any store? Also does anyone know when The Misfits are going to play in Boston Mass.? A Fiend, The Maxx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:56:03 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: Violent world, boxed ears The "missing" verse to Violent World can be found on the Misfits page... When the opportunity comes Can't afford to rot everybody (X2) These lines are indeed missing from the WAU liner notes, and I noticed they were absent from the box set lyrix too. Man, everybody just needs to be tied up and forced to look at the web page thoroughly just once. I just noticed today the box lyrics for Spook City are wrong too... was this Jerry's interpretation, or some Caroline flunkie working the graveyard shift with eight cups of coffee? I had some more crap to spew on about but I'm beginning to bore myself. I'm off for spring break... have fun everybuddddy Teevie >;0) "Misfits? Didn't they cover Metallica??" is still better than "Didn't they cover G'n'R??" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:26:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Dycus Subject: Earth A.D. For some reason, I was led to believe that the box set was going to have the original version of Earth A.D. I'm dissapointed it turned out not to be on there. Does anyone one know if there's any hope of this being released? After the hearing the difference between Static Age and Legacy of Dubbing, I'm really dying to hear the REAl version... Ed ------------------------------ From: "Lowe, Thomas B." Subject: Vote For Your Top 5 MISFITS Songs!!! Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 19:13:00 PST Hi fellow fiends! I know you all are all fired up about getting your new boxed sets containing every Misfit track. Well, if you wanna vote for your Top 5 Misfits songs go to the web page address below and cast your votes! http://rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de/~smehnle/top10 Have fun, Unholy Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 02:27:53 -0500 From: Jason Appleby Subject: irc Don't forget to check out #misfits, and stay for the tossed salad!" -- Jason Appleby Toronto, Canada jay@interlog.com check out my tape trading list on the web at http://www.interlog.com/~jay/tradel~1.html ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:47:55 -0500 Subject: more replies Fiends, Here's a little small talk for ya. If you live in New York; or if you're just visiting, here's a few recommendations: My favorite restaurants: ROYAL INDIAN CUISINE - First Ave between 5th & 6th STs. TAJ MAHAL - 328 EAST 6TH St (between 1st & 2nd Ave's) RAJ MAHAL - 322 East 6th St " " ITALIAN: CI VEDIAMO - AVE 'A' between 5th & 6th ST's CALIFORNIA PIZZA OVEN - 122 University PL SAL"S PIZZA - Ave 'A' at 7th ST ($1.25 /slice) FALAFEL: anyplace is good, but the best is HABIB's - 9th ST near ave. 'A' they go the extra -distance, using more fillings than just iceberg lettuce and tomatoes COPIES: KINKOS - 12th ST between University & FIFTH Ave. UNIQUE COPY CENTER - Greene St between Waverly Pl & EIGHTH St. COMPUTER: COMP-U-TIME - 121 University Pl. if you use a PC, this is the best place. None of the other places know how to configure their PC's, so what should take 2-minutes to print can take an hour. These guys know PC's. They have MACs too. ******************************************************************* This is getting good. It's not at all what I expected. I thought there would be more of a confrontation with some die-hard fans, who believed all the negative stuff that's circulated about me for so long. It looks like I might have even been re-united with a long-lost friend. Are there any more of you out there? Here's the next round of e-mail. > From: gerry blaylock > Subject: ?for bobby > i was wondering about the insert on the horror business. do you know > what the "strange noises" were actually caused by? > gerry Shitty recording. Here's the background to the Haunted House story. We did the mix of that stuff on the Monday after Sid Vicious died. Jerry had been helping Sid's mom all weekend, so he wound up bringing her to the studio. I think she had a bottle of either Vodka or Gin (a fifth). We had our Bacardi & Coke, plus a joint of Pot, Hash, and Coke. This wasn't the smartest move. As we set up the mix; one of us would point out 'I can't hear the snare' - so we turn up the snare. 'Now I can't hear the guitar - turn it up. We never thought of the idea of turning anything down. When everything was on 'ten', we had to settle on the mix. After the record was mastered, and the stampers were made, we decided to go on colored vinyl. What we didn't know was that different pressing plants used different machines, and different stampers. We wound up sending the wrong kind of stampers to the pressing plant, so, I believe, they had to make up a new stamper from the wrong one we sent them, and it further affected the sound quality. When the records came in; me and Joey were upset at the sound quality, and didn't want it to come out like that. But we'd already sunk all this money into 2,000 yellow records. We sat down and thought about how we could handle this without losing our shirts. That's when we came up with the idea of making up some kind of cool story about the record. I suggested that we say it was recorded on the anniversary of Edgar Allen Poe's death, which Glenn thought was kinda stupid, so we came up with the 'haunted house' story. Dave Street wrote the insert, Glenn laid out the artwork - and voila! a CLASSIC!! ( I remember looking up E. A. Poe in an encyclopedia, and we DID record on the anniversary of his death) ------------------------------ From: "Thomas A. Bailey" Subject: Tour/Undead Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:53:59 -0500 (EST) For all of you fiends out there, though I have been a fan of the Misfits for a few years now, I have not kept up on all of the other side projects that former members have been involved in. What I wanted to know is if anyone out there can give me an idea of what Bobby Steele's project, the Undead, sounds like? Do they sound anything like the Misfits at all? >From his last entry on the Bible, I became interested, but didn't really want to spend the money on the disc if it's something I'm not going to like (I have enough school loans to pay off as it is). Tom B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:47:12 -0800 From: Richard Hinojos Subject: Help Wanted!! Guitarists/bassist/musicians wanted to work on Mark's page's TAB. Rob and I started on the TAB, hoping that maybe some other musically inclined people may contribute. A few have (thanks!), but there are still a lot of holes left. Please quit bitchin about what's not there, and contribute a little. :) boxset: uh... eh. disc three was nice, and the static age, but where's WKM?/Spook City? Ryq poltergeist in the middle of the hallway... ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 18:07:22 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #150 This is an open post to all the fiends: Am I the only one who is getting sick and fucking tired of all this bullshit about money between all the members and former members of the misfits? I mean jesus, I wish everybody could just act like adults and work this whole thing out. If Bobby is entitled to money, (which he is) give it to him for christsake, I mean, it's not going to break anybodys bank if the guy gets paid right? And quit with the arguing. I wish everybody would just shut up. I just wanna listen to the music, and if the new music is as good as the old stuff, great. I think it is time for everyone to just put the egos aside and get all the financial bullshit and slandering out of the way so that the misfits could do their thing, Bobby could do his thing, and Danzig could do his thing. FUCK. I think im gonna drop out of the human race because you are all making me fucking sick. Roger Holmes ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 17:02:41 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #150 This post is to Matthew Leitman, Im glad to hear you got your box set through CDnow with no problems. I ordered it over the internet a couple of days ago and I can't wait to get it. I know what it's like not being able to find any Misfits stuff here in Canada. So what do you think of the Spectrum canceling on the band? Aren't there any other venues that could hold them in Montreal? I drove up there a couple of times in the last few years to see the Ramones. They played at the Metropolis and I think that would be perfect for a Misfits show. And I heard someone say earlier that there is only a live version of Horror Hotel on the box set? Is this true? If so, what is the version on Collection II like? If anyone could let me know the answers to these questions I would appreciate it. Tks Roger Holmes ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:28:58 -0500 Subject: bobby i must say i was flattered to see bobby respond to one of my posts. (i'm not worthy...) for what it's worth, bobby comes in a strong second. i like the way he uses those full 6 string barre chords, and as far as leads, he was/is far better than any other misfits guitarist, but i like the simplicity and stange feel to franche's. i would also like to appologize for having bashed bobby in the past because of stuff i'd head about him. hopefully everyone will follow suite because obviously bobby is a cool guy and deserves it! if you haven't heard any undead stuff, you should really check it out! it's great stuff! Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 96 19:19:03 PST From: Barry Beitz Fiends, I have a few sightings for ya. I'm a very big fan of Juliette Lewis (you know, the killer babe in Natural Born Killers, and I mean "killer" literally;)) and so I see every movie that she's in. The most recent movie she was in was "Strange Days." Near the beginning of the movie a guys walks by on the street with a Crimson Ghost shirt on. Also, in the movie "Too Young To Die", Juliette is wearing the "Die Die my Darling" shirt. I nearly busted a nut!! Juliette being very fun to look at because she's real pretty was now wearing a Misfits shirt. Two of the greatest things on Earth together. WOW!! And the most creepy, my sister told me that she was getting issued a textbook at our school (an old school established in the 50s or 60s) and there was a name in it from 1980 that read "Gerri Doyle"!! Do you believe that? Either it was a real Misfits fan or a person with a really cool name! Man, I feel like I've sinned to the Misfits for not buying the box set yet. From all the reviews you guys gave, I think I'm gonna use my saved up lunch money for it instead of buying more spikes and pyramids for my denim (we can't all afford leathers, ya know). And finally, guys I know yer proud of yer straight-edgeness, but do we need huge "sXe" symbols at the end of your posts? I don't have a humongous "BEER DRINKER" sign though I enjoy the pleasures of alcohol. It just seems like yer bragging when you "X" up your hands at shows and write "sXe" everywhere. Oh well, I'll shut up 'cuz it doesn't bug me that much. -JON "Posing for the cameras, Posing for the postcards/ We lower ourselves to a parody of what society wants us to be/ They don't want to know that punk means FREEDOM!!" -FILTH -"Lust For Glory" PS- Email me if you're willing to sell a copy of Creepy Compilation (or trade, all I have is a Misfits concert on Halloween in Bethlehem, Pa in '82 and a Germs concert video from Dec 1979 (their last?). The Germs vid is only about 20 minutes and has cuts throughout the concert. Sorry! I didn't do it. I paid $25 for the damn thing!!). My Email address is : beitz@crl.com Thanx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 20:54:03 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Have a good sleep... This can go into the next bible issue : Black Aria did make Billboard #1 for the classical section, and i will find the copies of the magazine and scan it for you. The pieces were even played on classical radio stations. That says a lot for a first time attempt for that style. He also did go to Marvel and was turned away (not he first person, one of my friends was ask by Marvel to come then turned down there in NY.)now he has his own comic book company. There are so few driven people in this world that strive to achieve. That is a hard act to follow. Though my way has always to give a person a chance. I do not judge blindly. Well i hope you had a great time going home and i'll talk to you later. Tammy ------------------------------ From: ABLOINK@emuvax.emich.edu Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:08:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: detroit For all of the Fiends in the Detroit area 2 words:BE CAREFUL! I know we're all going to be in attendance on May 11 at Harpo's, but if you haven't been there before use caution. Aside from it being in a shitty area and the fact that one of the guys from the fiesty cadavers(I apologize, but I don't remember his name)getting blasted with a shotgun a while back, the bouncers are complete dicks and they WILL hurt you. I have witnessed them using lead pipes on people before. Harpo's is the last place I would have liked to see the Misfits play. P.S. I guess I really got a deal on my box set--$38.00 with tax. ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 13:39:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: bobby stuff I dont know what to think about some of the venom Bobby unloaded with last issue. I mean from all accounts both he and Jerry seem like great guys. If what Bobby says is true about not getting paid, that bugs me. I hope Bobby can get some cash from the box set. In an earler bible it was reported that bobby was offered the chance to be in on the lawsuit but he denied. If Jerry an Doyle are getting paid, I think Bobby should too. What Bobby should do is get on the ball, call caroline see what info he can get out of them, Get in touch with Jerry's lawyer and get all court papers he can, Maybe get his own lawyer (Yeah,i know, there is no way he can afford one. Maybe New york has some free legal help out there somewhere, it's worth a shot.) What Bobby should not do is speculate on stuff like how much of an advance the 'fits got, or that Jerry is hoarding Bobby's money, I think Bobby should definitly gets some facts about all this stuff. Can anybody on the bible give us a lesson in royalties? I'd like to know more about this. I'd like to think that Bobby, Glenn, Jerry, everybody could all be friends and all get paid for there hard work but I realize there are a lot of things going on that i dont have a clue about. Maybe Bobby will pick up some royalties eventially from the box set since i think royalties Dont come out for months at a time. The Noss asked about Helen Delambre. the name is French, they dont pronounce it like us ugly americans Del-ahm. Here's hopeing this works out in everybodys favor jamil ------------------------------ From: APSegal@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 22:47:13 -0500 Subject: Help. Can anyone help me identify a tape I have? It's a studio session that doesn't seem to be on the sessions disk of the box set. Let me describe it. About12 years ago I got this tape from a friend. It has the entire Static Age LP on it, followed by trackes 4-7 of the sessions disk in the box set, followed by these tracks: The first song is 20 eyes. There are really full guitar strums on the first down beat of each measure. Also, the galloping snare right before the vocals kick in on all the other versions I've heard is totally absent. And, it sounds like the drummer is riding on the snare a little, a kind of rockabilly feel. The second track is I turned in to a martian. There's tons of reverb on the vocals. The 1-2-3-4 that's usually on the snare at the beginning is all on the toms. Big full guitar strums again. The third track is Astro zombies. There's a false start for 3 or 4 chords followed almost immediately by the real start. The first time Glen says "astro" in the first verse, the bass hits a really sour note. The words "exterminate" are overdubbed with a really loud, spoken voice. The next track is Nike a go go. On the intro, the snare gallops have a real rockabilly swing, not like the machine gun style on the walk among us version. There's lots of constant feedback, and the last shouted "over" is just "Oh" on this version. Next is All hell breaks loose, same general style. Last is Devil's whorehouse. The accented echos are very loud and the high pitched backing vocals are not together with the lead vocals in a lot of places. At the very end there's some very high pitched, very echoed snare slaps. I compared these to the sessions disk, and the other releases, and it's definitely not among them. Anyone know what this is from? Send a message to apsegal@aol.com. Thanx in advance, -Adam S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 00:29:09 -0500 From: She Subject: Fiends I was just thinking of something. I remembered the chorus lines to ca couple unreleased Misfits songs from '77. Would anyone be interested in re-constructing lyrics for these songs? Originally, when "Spinal Remains" was "Feline Nursery", the chorus went something like this - "I'm gonna throw away the key to the Feline Nusery". "Harpies In the Night" had a line like "We scream like harpies in the night." any guesses? mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:19:22 +0100 From: Anders Soelvberg Subject: danzig III non-pic disc The Danzig III non-pic disc CD appears to be the European version of How the Gods Kill. The European has only black writing on the disc (negative of Thrall- Deamonsweatlive), and either a black or a clear sticker on the jewel case (varies with print). Number is 512 270-2, and is printed in Germany. Elsewise, identical to the American print. Wolverine ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 96 11:05:20 EST From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@compuserve.com> Subject: Bible meetings at the Misfits Concerts! Has anyone come up with a plan to organize a meeting of Misfits Bible readers at each of the Misfits concerts? I know that myself, Paul Hahn and Andy Dempz are all from Michigan and I sent them a personal invitation to meet me at the show to talk. I would like to hear from any other Misfits bible readers that will be at the Michigan/Detroit show as well. Out of 650 there should be a few more! Also, people in other states should do the same. Just get someone familar with the bar to set up a time and place - or just go to the T-shirt area and scream for BIBLE READERS. Everyone might think we are religious nuts but who cares? Paul Holstein 102165,134@compuserve.com ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:36:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: we are not sick men of asia Well i know you fuckers hardly ever read anyone's posts these days but spare me a minute. I wasn't goin to buy the box set until I actually read your posts. You guys actually talked me into buying it: and I'm glad i did, so thanx. We're all a little poorer now but it seems that everyone agrees that this set kicks ass! cd 1 is cool for me because i never had collection 1 and I've only heard it once and that was back in 1989. I'd forgotten but i still think the best version of Where eagles Dare is on here! And this cd is cool because it starts with She and ends with We Bite, kinda a first and last song ever cycle (yeah i know cough/cool was the first song but still this is neat to look at how the songs evolved.) cd 2 why legacy? if it is their best-selling album (so jerry has said) why include it? if it sells so well then i would assume most fans have it and put something else on there. But still, Evilive is on here, so how can i complain, and more importantly, Earth AD is here! Still that is one of my faves; glenn's thrashy direction died to quickly, i think. cd 3 rips ass!! The shit with Bobby makes the collection! I'd read since the early bibles how all of you think his NOTLD is the best version, & i pretty much aggree, but that snare needs to be toned down a little, i think. Anyway, his vampira and violent world on here are the 2 best versions of those freakin songs! And the slower version of turned in to a martian? best one ever! Same goes for the myx-o-lydian Nike! cd 4 is cool but i disagree that this would be the best Misfits album. I still gotta go with Walk among us. Sure, Static is great, but overall, I think Walk is the peak of the 'fits. Best songs, catchiest choruses, still aggressive, & their image was there & dominant. I think if any Fits album would have changed the punk trends of the time it would have been Walk, not Static. But ya never know. Oh yeah the booklet, great too. The cover is cool as hell & now i just gotta ask when's this gonna be a poster and/or t-shirt? OK here's my obligatory question: back in 1989 i remember reading an add in a magazine (maybe rip) for the misfits fan club. I guess now it was probably the doyle fan club. I sent for the package they offered (i don't remember if it cost me anything) and I can not remember everything i got! I do know there was a pushead poster of these pygmy heads and maybe a letter, now in hindsight i think it was an ad for the Kryst album, but at the time i had no idea what kryst the conquerer or even who doyle was! (remember i didn't have a cd player then, just tapes, & there is no listing of members in earth ad, and my walk was a dub of someone else's so again i had no idea of the names of the guys in the band, just danzig.) I think there were some tassle wrist bands in there, maybe a pick? Anyway, what I'm wondering is, does anyone know if this was the doyle club, or maybe the kryst club i was getting stuff from? Maybe does anyone have any idea what exactly was in that package? Maybe someone on here got it too. Anyway, I guess i had to buy something to remain on the list cause i never heard from them again. If anyone knows more about this, let me know, and in case you're wondering i have no idea where that pushead poster is now, which is surprising cause I like his stuff a lot. Oh yeah, Mark, keep that guy's proposal of selling the Black Light 7" yourself in mind. I plan on seeing them in DC but there's always the chance I won't be able to get myself a copy. If you are selling them like he said only one or 2 per person i think that'll solve a lot of problems. Right, then, joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:29:36 -0600 (CST) From: Legion Subject: Earth A.D. CD Hey Fiends! I was wondering if anyone knew how to get a hold of the Earth A.D. CD, or if anyone would be willing to sell it? Lately, I've been trying to spend time and money building up more of a collection and was just curious as to if any of you could help. I hope everyone is enjoying the box-set; I just was able to obtain mine through the local music store, as it took Caroline a bloody WEEK and 1/2 to ship it out after the release date! But it was DEFINITELY worth the wait! Yours fiendishly, Legion (we are many) ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:31:56 -0500 Subject: METAL MANIACS In the "June" edition of "Metal Maniacs" is 3+ page article on the Misfits. It doesn't have too many new facts that most of us don't already know but there are some cool pictures such as a close up of Michale Graves on the mic and one of Jerry and Doyle on the set while filming the "pilot" for their horror movie series. That's the best one of all (to me at least). They're sitting at a long, rough cut table supported by what looks to be stone slabs and gargoyles and covered by skulls and assorted other bones. Each of them is sitting in an electric chair. Whoever wrote the article referred to Franche Coma as "Franga Coma"(?). Jerry also accuses (in a round-about way) Bon Jovi of stealing a quote from him and using it as their new album title: "Keep the Faith" because he used to end letters with the phrase "Keep the Faith, Jerry Only." My baby sitter used to use that phrase years ago. Maybe it's a New Jersey thing. I don't know. Anyway, it's a pretty cool article all in all. It's too bad no other "big" publication is doing pieces on them. Fangoria should even do one on them instead of doing articles on "Tremors 2". And, now that Bobby Steele is listening, I'd just like to apologize on behalf of all Misfits fiends for the jerks on line at the signing who gave you a hard time on line because of your handicap (they yelled something mindless like "Nice shoes" ...). You gave the fans some of your time and was great to all who met you but I guess that doesn't count for much with some people. I'd never been interested in the Undead but after meeting you in person, decided to order one. Anyway, that's about it ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:28:39 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #150 Julian Baldry- please e-mail me, where are you???? adam kriney kriney@uhavax.hartford,edu goatboy ptyc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:48:18 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #150 Funk Master W.E.T. in the motherfucking house my biiaatches. So here's the little piece of heat I got burning the top of my damn skull. When your cock is as fuckin' huge as mine how do you get in a whores ass without making the fucker spurt blood like some kind of stuck pig? Fuck, Fuck, Fucking dat ass. What do you ignorant bastards think of that whole situation in Tiawan? That's right, I BE A MAN OF THE WORLD! I know that you all fear me. I can tell by all the fucking typo's. If you flame me I'll send your "punks" adresses to one hundred different religious foundations with a request to save your souls on it. They'll never let up.Never. Wes "I LOVE JAID" Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:48:21 -0500 From: Bobby Steele Subject: THE HEAT IS ON Fiends, Another crazy New York weekend. If it snows again - I'm gonna get a gun and kill the entire weather bureau. Enoughs enough. It looks like there'll be a TIMES SQUARE 45 coming out soon. We're negotiating a one-off licensing deal with a local label. I've gotten some email at my address, but I want to explain. This'll be more fun, and informative if you keep all your questions and comments on the MISFITS bbs. If you have a personal message, just let MARK know it's personal - or wait til the last week of March. I'll give out my email address then, and you can send me your personal messages, but for now I'd appreciate it if you'd just keep this on the BBs - so everyone can share in the exchange. Believe it or not, I'll be turning 40 on March 18th. ...yeah, 40! youre not nearly as surprised as I am. I never thought I'd make it past 25!! We'll be celebrating on Saturday, the 16th at the SPIRAL 244 Houston St, NYC after Midnight. Come on down and join us. Last week, I was reunited with Pat Ragan; an old friend from my MISFITS days. If there are any more of you out there - email me now. I'm still searching for Robbie Alter - the producer of the MSP sessions, and Danny Zelonky, who produced the SONGSHOP session. The last I heard, Danny was in Detroit; and Robbie was selling computers in the Miami area. If anybody has any info on these guys, let me know. Here's one for the PMRC... About ten years ago, I saw some schoolkids interviewing the Pope. He was asked what kind of music he listened to. He finished his answer with "I like ROCK"!! And if that's not enough, It's just been released on the wire services that the Pope just bought 100 pairs of DOC MARTENS. IS THE POPE A PUNK? And just in time for THE MISFITS tour. Maybe we should start a petition to canonize SID VICIOUS. I asked for trouble; I got trouble. Neil McAllister, from San Francisco sent me a scathing critique of how he perceived my behavior. Quite an eloquent dude, too. > From: Neil McAllister > Subject: Stuff and Bobby Steele Neil, That's a well written letter. I appreciate your effort. You don't know me, you don't know glenn, and you don't know Jerry, but you say you've spoke with Glenn, and corresponded with Jerry; so you've already given them a chance. Thanks for finally giving me a chance. >My impression of Glenn: Basically a very nice guy, but also very ambitious >and apparently not above stepping on the backs of some (former) friends to >get where he wants to go. I think he's basically gotten there by now, and >more power to him if he wants to enjoy his situation and do as he sees fit. Hey, Glenn is basically a nice guy, and I think You're the first person I've seen who says so. What gets me is that you seem to admire him for a lot of the wrong reasons. How would you feel if he put a gun to your head, took your money and raped your girlfriend. Would that be acceptable to you? After all, it shows ambition and an ability to get where he wants to go, too. Glenn could've gotten a lot farther if he just relied on his talent. There's a saying in the entertainment business, "be careful how you treat the people you meet on the way up; they're the same people you're gonna meet on the way down." I have a lot more respect for him than you know. I've defended him on numerous occaisions, when I felt people were being unfair. >My impression of Jerry: A VERY nice and generous person, who loves >showmanship and being in the limelight. He is very giving to his fans, >and I DO NOT believe he's "in it for the money" as you say. I'm gonna try to handle this diplomatically. If Jerry is such a nice and generous guy, I don't understand why he didn't help Jaime out with the $150.00 he needed to get to NYC, after helping Jerry set up the whole MISFITS DINNER. Why are the ticket prices so high? And why doesn't the NICE GUY pay me. He keeps saying he's gonna do it, but why the stalling? >My impression of Bobby Steele; a pathetic whiner. I hope I don't sound like I'm whining.I'm just trying to set the record straight. After all, it was their record company that emailed this BBs to say that we all got our money. I'm just saying 'it's not true' Joey Image hasn't gotten paid either. Caroline told my manager that, when Jerry got paid, he assured them he would contact me and give me my cut. He didn't. >Jerry and his brother were working in a machine shop making >craft knives. So what if they work for their dad? Where the fuck was >Bobby Steele all this time? Playing rock star with some two-bit punk >outfits, running around with his hair-sprayed hair and his leather pants >looking like a late 80's Alice Cooper, and complaining about how poor he >is. It's good you read my bio. I don't think anyone who's seen or heard THE UNDEAD would call it a two-bit punk outfit. I do damn good - considering my limited resources. And I never COMPLAINED. I'd hate to see how you would 've handled the same situation. If you read the bio more carefully, you'd see that the writer is talking about my ability to survive. Maybe Jerry and Doyle worked the machine shop 'cause they were sick of the music biz. Jerry did denounce THE MISFITS at least at one point that I know of. There's nothing wrong with being rich. And there's nothing wrong with wanting what's yours either. While they were working at the machine shop - to make money - I was still making music, which I love. I hope that, one day, my music gets me out of this ghetto. If it doesn't...I still had a great time, lived my life the way I wanted to, did it without fucking people over, and had experiences that you could only dream about. Remember... I WAS A MISFIT. There aren't many people who can say they were part of one of the greatest bands ever. A band that had a major effect on everything that's happening in music today. Fuck. I'm proud of that. The money issue is secondary, but what kind of person would I be if I didn't just try to get what I'm entitled to. Would you just sit back if your boss didn't pay you what he promised you, for the work you did. You'd be a wimp not to put up some kind of fight. Did you make the same criticism of Jerry when he was 'whining' about not getting paid by Glenn? > "They say I was doing all this stuff to fuck with them but look at me, > I'm so poor I can't afford a grain of rice, how could poor Bobby Steele > do anything wrong?" You must be talking about the THRASHER interview, where Glenn tried to lay the blame for that whole ELITE CLUB incident on me. My response was 'how could I, on about $240.00 a month social security, afford to hire a few thugs,and pay their airfare to SF, just to create a disturbance at their show?' I think I made a valid point. On April 10, 1982, THE UNDEAD were somewhere between NYC and Indianapolis the last thing I cared about was THE MISFITS. THE UNDEAD were on the verge of releasing a new record. I didn't even know what had happened. We played ON BROADWAY on April 15 & 16; and I didn't understand why all these kids were running up to the stage, pointing to their heads - and daring me to hit them. Until I just looked up the dates in my calendar, I never realized how close the two shows were We actually played the ELITE club on the 17th. Nobody ever said anything to us. We were supposed to do a show, with D.O.A. and a few other classic bay area bands on the 24th, but our van broke down and we got there too late to play, even though D.O.A. were gonna let us jump on and use their equipment, and that's where I met Tim, the kid who got hit. >Glenn Danzig is AFRAID of Bobby Steele! >Glenn Danzig HATES Bobby Steele because he is a CRIPPLE! >choke< >sob< Why won't he talk to me? He's got nothing to fear, does he? When did I ever say he hates me because I'm a cripple. I don't think he hates me. Especially from what people have told me about their conversations with him over the years. Steve Zing told me that Glenn respects the fact that I do what I believe in. I think you took my quote from his THRASHER interview the wrong way. I was just pointing out a comment he made, and the sub- conscious implications in that statement. If he hated me for being a cripple, he never would've let me in the band in the first place, right? >The Misfits doing a tour would make everybody tons of money... but only if >they brought back Glenn and BOBBY STEELE! I said, "what I'd like to do is get that line-up, the NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD line-up (w/ Joey Image) back for one LP and tour, and we could make a real killing". After all, this is the line-up that Glenn and Jerry have both said was 'when the band was at its best'. >Bobby Steele is a CRUSADER for IMPORTANT ISSUES, Yeah, like 'drink til ya drop.' You're taking me a little too seriously. Come hang out in New York for awhile, and we can share a six-pack of 'important issues'. I'm not MRR. >Bobby Steele is so broke he can't afford an E-Mail address -- see how the >SYSTEM is KEEPING HIM DOWN, and not letting him speak his true and factual >side of the story? Well, I am broke, but there isn't anything that can keep me down. Certainly not your verbal attacks! I fell between the cars of a moving subway train and came out of it without a scratch - and just under $15,000.00 that helped keep THE UNDEAD going for another two-years, and helped me to get some more recording gear. Does that sound like I'm being kept down? I got this free AOL thing, and I took advantage of the deal. How's that keeping me down? I always find a way. Read the email that came in from Daniel King. I always find a way, because there are decent people out there. Out of curiosity, what exactly do you do? It's a lot easier to talk with someone if you know a little bit about them. >Bobby Steele gave the Misfits "two years of loyal service"... and yet >somehow he owns a piece of the Misfits, they wouldn't be the Misfits >without him. Wrong!!! Get Franche Coma... he's a great guitarist, and originated the sound. No matter who's in the band - GLENN CREATED IT. It's not the MISFITS without Glenn...in my opinion. Glenn wrote the songs, Glenn created all those great record covers and posters (which most of you have never seen) It was Glenn's baby. You can't argue with that fact. >Jerry needs Bobby Steele, because KRYST THE CONQUEROR was a FAILURE while >the Undead were an unqualified success (unfortunately still leaving Bobby >Steele as broke and pitiable as Oliver Twist). Jerry doesn't need Bobby Steele. Where are you getting this idea from. I'm just pointing out that, If I'm the fuck-up that Jerry would have you believe I am, how was I able to do so much with so little money, while KRYST did so poorly -even with Jerry putting eons more money into it than I put into mine. He recorded at HOUSE OF MUSIC. That's a major studio. It's gotta be at least $150.00 an hour. He put a shitload of money into getting that out to radio stations, but he still wanted to call it THE MISFITS, or rather, If KRYST had done well, he would still be doing it. > Bobby, if you have legal problems with regard to getting paid >for work you did on prior Misfits albums, that issue is between yourself, >Jerry, and Caroline records. It is tactless of you to air those issues in >a public forum, and probably your doing so is enough cause for legal >action. It also tells me that you are unable to find appropriate redress >through legal channels because your claims are unfounded, and that is why >you choose to vent your dirty laundry in this fashion. Actually, I couldn't afford to get a lawyer. It's hard finding a lawyer to represent you in the entertainment business, since there are so few and there's enough other business that'll pay them up front. I have found a lawyer who wants to handle the case. He'll even put up the $18,000.00 filing fees, but the catch is that he'll only do it if I let him "go for the jugular". All I want is what's mine, nothing more. So I'm giving Jerry a chance to straighten this out. Kenny has promised to sit down and talk with me after they get back from Europe. There are only a few tracks that are inquestion as to who played what, because me and Doyle overlapped on the MSP session, and some of that stuff has part of me, and part of Doyle in the same song(or is that part of me, and part of Glenn). I trust Kenny. He never treated me bad when I was in the band. You made some good, valid points there, so I hope I settled your problem about BOBBY STEELE. This was much more te type of questions I was expecting when I stepped into this arena. I don't know if I changed your mind about anything, but give a listen to my music, and let it speak for itself. I'm sure you know someone who has some of my stuff out in SF, ask them to tape it for ya. Please, keep it to one question, so other people can get in on this too. > From: Jaime Obergfell > Subject: hey bobby Jaime, whew, I'm not good at writing tablature. Have you tried to figure any of it out yourself? It can't be too difficult. After all - I did it. Is there anybody else that wants to learn any songs? How about we take a poll of the guitarists out there, and I'll work out some kind of thing for the most requested song. Writing it all out sounds like a project in itself - and I'm trying to record new stuff while I'm doing this bbs session. Maybe Neil can help ya (ha ha). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 23:39:59 MST From: "Cadet Kyle J. Pumroy, x4748" Subject: concrete corner Hi everybody, haven't posted for long time and don't plan to. Since the bible's gotten so big, I don't get the whole thing, so I don't want to post since whatever I ask/say has probably already been said and I just don't know it. Anyway, I was wondering if anybody's brought up the new issue (?) of Concrete Corner? I've never got it, but I'm assuming it's a tape you get at record stores. Anyway, on the radio commercial they say the misfits is on it. If anybody has this can they post what's on it, and if this has already been done, could somebody just email me and tell me what's on it? Thanks kyle p ------------------------------ From: IANXRT@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:42:25 -0500 Subject: Sex Pistols reunion!!! WELL IT'S BEEN RUMOURED FOR YEARS AND NOW IT'S FOR SURE. THE SEX PISTOLS WILL BE TOURING EUROPE AND THE UNITED STATES THIS SUMMER FOR THE REUNION CONCERT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE FROM BEFORE IS THAT GLEN MATLOCK (THE PISTOLS FIRST ORIGINAL BASS PLAYER) WILL BE PLAYING INSTEAD OF SID FOR ODVIOUS REASONS (IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE REASON BY NOW THEN YOU DON'T BELONG THEIR, BUT I'M SURE THAT'S NOT ANY KIND OF RECENT NEWS TO ANYBODY SO THEIRS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT; BUT JUST FOR THE IGNORANT:SID IS DEAD). I CAN'T WAIT I LOVE THE PISTOLS. BUT WHATS THE CATCH; I WOULDN'T HAVE EVER THOUGHT THAT JOHNNY (ROTTEN) WOULD EVER AGREE TO IT. MTV WILL BE SHOWING AN INTERVIEW ABOUT WHY THE REUNION IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT WILL AIR VERY SOON, SO KEEP YOU'R 20 EYES PEELED. BUT WHO KNOWS JOHNNY SEEMES TO LIE A LOT AS WELL, SO MAYBE THE INTERVIEW WILL BE ALL BULLS*IT ANYWAY. BUT IN ANYCASE THE REUNION WILL HAPPEN THIS SUMMER AND I WILL BE THEIR. I WAS JUST THINKING WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO SEE THE MISFITS AND THE PISTOLS PLAY TOGETHER FOR SOME SHOWS. I KNOW IT'S VERY UNLIKELY, BUT I CAN DREAM CAN'T I. OH, BY THE WAY THE RAMONES AREN'T REALLY CALLING IT QUITS JUST YET, THEY WILL BE PLAYING LALAPOLUZA THIS SUMMER. SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE IN MY WILDEST, WILDEST DREAMS I THINK OF A SHOW WITH THE MISFITS, THE RAMONES, AND THE SEX PISTOLS. WOW, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT. AND I ASK YOU ONCE AGAIN I CAN DREAM CAN'T I. SINCE I WILL NEVER SEE ALL OF THESE BANDS ON THE SAME FLYER THEN I WILL HAVE TO GO TO EACH INDIVIDUAL SHOW, OH WELL I'LL STILL HAVE THE GREATEST SUMMER OF ALL WHEN ALL MY FAVORITE BANDS TOUR THE UNITED STATES. I HOPE THE PISTOLS DON'T ARGUE AND CALL IT QUITS BEFORE I GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM. I KNOW IT SOUNDS STUPID, BUT WATCH MTV FOR MORE INFO. ON THE PISTOLS; I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO GET ANY MORE INFO. IF ANY OF YOU DO PLEASE E- MAIL ME ASAP. I'M THROUGH FANTICIZING NOW. AND I KNOW I'M A BAD SPELLER, IAN : IANXRT@aol.com ( i'm going to eat you'r brain ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:11 CDT From: MARK LERRET Subject: #150 Just a few observations : 1) I'm glad Bobby Steele is contributing to the Bible. His comments and perspective are welcome, however this is not a forum for personal bashing of the other Misfits. I was hoping that we were over all that crap !! Save the personal attacks for the person. 2) What's the deal with ripping on the new Misfits lyrics? They were kind enough provide them to us in advance. Without music, I'm sure that a lot of songs would lose some of their appeal. I, for one, think the songs are cool. 3) The box set is awesome. The packaging is the best I've seen on a box set, and the contents of the disks (except for C I & II) are worth every penny! Even LOB has a purpose; it makes you appreciate the Static Age mixes even more !! 4) Best use for your old, obsolete Misfits CDs : find a friend and make him a Fiend !!! Mark L. ------------------------------ From: Bruce Lee Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:29:44 -5 Subject: The Box Set... Hey, I just got (well, actually, three days ago) the box set and I have to say it rules... I'm not gonna bore you with what is wrong with or how it should have been... the thing is beautiful... there isn't a single thing wrong with it in my eyes except for the fact that there won't be a second box set... ALL 104 tracks rule (Bobby Steele's Vampira and Violent World (hell, 20 Eyes, too) being leaders of the pack... I love Bobby's guitar work... ), the pin fits nicely on my jacket collar, and my roommate is afraid of the coffin box (he thinks I have a little woodland creature inside)... good work Caroline!!! I hope they decide to put this much effort into all the further Misfits releases (Caroline- please... NEVER give us another abomination like Collection II again!). Sincerely, Bruce Lee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:57:01 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Misfit Albums FOR SALE The following is for sale: 3 Hits from Hell, Orange Jacket, Cream Label, Black Vinyl Halloween 7", Orange Jacket & Label, Black Vinyl, includes insert of lyrics, has tape on back corners (not removed), slightly torn in bottom corner. Evillive 7" 1st Band Photo, w/insert [perfect condidtion!], Yellow label, black vinyl, hand number 15 on spine of Crimson Ghost's book. Glenn Danzig 7" Who Killed Marilyn? White/Purple jacket, black vinyl. Please email serious offers to me. My friend is selling them (needs money, plus wants the box set) and I'll try to get bids to him. I think he may have a buyer for the Marilyn 7", but I'm not sure. All of the records are in good shape, and the EvilLive is in excellent shape. Any questions can be mailed too. Thanks. .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~snook `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:47:48 -0500 (EST) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Metala Maniacs hey fiends, Well i was in a local record store and Im passing the time reading some magazines. I saw this one called metal maniacs, and it has a picture of jerry and doyle in the bottem right corner. It has an article, the promo picture, a picture of doyle, the misfits w/ vampira, and a full page color shot of michael. Also it has picture of jerry and doyle shooting the pilots for the chiller series. It bassically talks about the comeback, and future plans. I could probably type it up for the page, sometime. Now I have a question. What is the signifigance of Reel Platinum studies. I know there is a session on the sessions disc, and samhain recorded there. It is in Lodi NJ, Im wondering is this glenns studio? It seems like Lodi is a small town and wouldnt have a recording studio? D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:23:06 -0600 (CST) From: Legion Subject: Misfits Silkscreens Fiends, wonder if you could help me out again: I wrote to Mark yesterday in question as to if any old Misfits silkscreens were around anymore. And of course, unfortunately they're not. So, I was wondering if any of you collectors out there had possession of a Misfits silkscreen, and if you did, would you be willing to share your representation of loyalty with yours truly? I just find myself so caught up in the Misfits 2nd coming that nothing is enough anymore! Yours fiendishly, Legion (we are many) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:35:17 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: real quick... Once again, for anyone who wanted the Hymns From Hell tape, just send $4.00 ppd in the USA to my address. Canada and Europe, etc. add a couple extra bucks for postage. It's a good source for a lot of the stuff that's now only available in the box set. To the kid who wanted to know how to get cool Misfits effects - Spend like $50.00 on DOD's Metal Maniac and you'll be a happy camper. Add a chorus (Ibanez is good) for those real creepy effects. Bye - Brent C. Eyestone 478 East Beaver Ave. Apt 211 State College PA 16801. ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: More Questions Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:14:48 -0500 (EST) First of all I want to ask the Crimson Ghost if he has mailed out the misfits picks to the donaters to jaime yet as promised? I just got back to school from spring break yesterday so I haven't got to give my 2 cents about the box set. Overall it was good, but the listing tend to be a little misleading. On the sicker on the coffin it said that the set included Collection 1, yet it did not include the entire album. The following tracks were nowhere to be seen: Bullet Earth A.D. Devilock Death Comes Ripping Green Hell Wolfsblood Then it said that the set included Collection 2, yet the following tracks were not included: We Are 138 Attitude Last Caress Return of the Fly Demonomania Hellhound Bloodfeast I think that we all agree that it was not necessary to even include either of these albums in the set but if they are going to do it they should at least include the whole album! Speaking of albums where the hell is the Walk Among Us album? What the fuck!!1 The sessions disc was great but I felt that they Had too many versions of the same song but then only one version of other songs. I desperately wanted to hear different versions or recording sessions of Die, Die, My Darling and Mommy, can I go out and kill tonight? There is only one version of these songs that I have ever heard and probably will ever hear. That sucks royal dick, wouldn't you all agree? Please, somebody give me some feedback on these opinions, I want to know if I am the only one that feels this way. Back me up or flame me, I don't care. Sincerely, ADAM SEVEN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:51:46 -0500 From: She Subject: Michale Fiends - Michale choses to spell his name Michale. It's NOT Michael. You are all spelling it incorrectly,. m ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:58:24 -0500 From: She Subject: Sorry Fiends A few of you sent me email to forward to Bobby, and unfortunately it was lost. If you'd like to send it to me again, please do. m a r k ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:17:42 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Holford Subject: Let's keep Bobby online! Hey Fiends, By now you probaly all saw who are latest bible member is. I think it's great the Bobby is here to give us his opinions and facts, plus he know has a chance to defend himself. Anyways, I was disappointed to see that he will only be with us for a short time. I was thinking, and I hope no one has mentioned this already, perhaps we could all through in a few buck to get him a permanent internet account. A few bucks should be worth it to all of you too have bobby here, and if you dont think its worth it, what the hell are you doing here? Anyways, its an idea. I think it would be better to get him a true internet account rather than AOL,but I dont know how PC literate he is. Let me know what you guys think. And Bobby, please in no way take offense to this, I just dont want you to get offended or anything. I wouldnt think of this as charity or a handout, cause i'm sure we all would love to hear from you in each issue. Does anyone know if Jerry/Doyle or even glenn has ever seen the bible? Also, if this plan is put into affect,it would be nice to know of some good internet service providers in the New York(is that right) area. Let me know what you guys think of this, and I hope 10 other people havent already suggested it. -Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:31:23 GMT Subject: Box Set From: sk8er IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! -- sk8er sk8er@usa.pipeline.com sk8er@clearlight.com http://www.clearlight.com/~sk8er ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 22:47:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Holford Subject: MiSFiT's Box Set I have a question/complaint about the Box. What is the cover of the booklet? Personally I think it looks stupid, and a Crimson Ghost would have been more appropiate, but they didnt ask me..hehe Also, I think Eerie Von did a great job with the Linear notes. I dont understand what you people(the one's who hate it) dont like about it. However all the sidewayz writing is annoying. -Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:35:57 -0500 (EST) From: "William P. Musso" Subject: just a few random comments and questions I won't go on too long about the box. Just about everything's already been said by other fiends on the bible. Static Age rules--Definitely the best Misfits album ever. Much more powerful than the LOB versions. I've always liked WAU, but after hearing Static Age and the Sessions disc, it sounds a bit weak to me. It would be much better if the guitar and bass were turned way up. Does anyone agree? Am I the only one who likes the box version of Spook City USA? I read somewhere that Jerry and Doyle don't even like the song. The fast version of Where Eagles Dare (sessions #19 I think) is the best version of that song I've ever heard. I wonder why that was'nt released before. Bobby Steele makes some valid points, but he seems to contradict himself a lot. He thinks Jerry is a money grubber and yet he admits to wanting to get the band together for a final money making retirement tour ala the Who. On his first posting, he pretty much expresses disdain for the current Misfits and everything they are doing. On his second posting he claims that he wants to be friends with them. There is obviously more to this story than any of the Misfits past or present are saying. I'd like to see Jerry and Doyle address these issues also. I also think ten bucks is pretty steep for a 7" and a poster. Is there a good reason for this being so expensive? If the Misfits are going to be truly DIY, where does Caroline fit into all of this? Last I heard, they were owned by Virgin. Hardly seems DIY to me. Is Caroline going to be putting out the new stuff? Misfits ads in Spin????????? Say it isn't so. Hold on, I think I have to puke. To Keith Gwar Noss: the "re" in Delambre is silent. It's pronounced Hellain Delawm. Check out the movie "the Fly" (original version) I,ve rambled on long enough. ------Psycho Billy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:50:35 -0600 From: Nicholas Havens Subject: Help Me Please Someone banned me from the #misfits irc on undernet. I'm really a good guy. Please someone try to get me unbanned. Oh and If you don't have it get the boxed set, it rocks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 01:42:57 -0500 From: She Subject: The Manimals Hey Fiends - do any of you remember The Manimals? They opened for the Misfits on 1/9/83 at Club Stain, and later for Samhain at the Pop Shop on 9/14/84. They were a very image oriented band and their lead singer, Larry The Wolf, looked especially similar to Doyle. Anyone who hasn't checked out their EP Blood Is The Harvest, might want to look into it. Jerry and Larry The Wolf have been friends for years and Jerry has expressed interest in covering a Manimals tune, or maybe writing some music with Larry. I'll soon have more information on how to purchase the EP, so keep your eyes open. Mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 152 Thursday, March 14th 1996 Today's Topics: Arizona, Bobby, sXe Re: this hello and reply Re: Misfits Bible, #151 Even Kentuckians Do That Misfits Thang! question no car, no show RE: Misfits Bible, #151 Static Age case hey mister, you didn't pay for your rice cakes Membership packages D.O.A Detroit Shows (The Harpo's Story) comments Bobby Steele Bobby Steele II Bobby Steele III stuff galore & more Hey CG Dave vanian singing with the Misfits??????? Misfits in Edinburgh (Mar.12 1996) Misifits of ska The Bible... & Bobby Bruce's new addy... aarrgh ... fiend club Lancaster, Philly, and DC shows. Providence show London Dungeon Re: day off Bobby, etc French Lesson 1st gig of Euro-tour! Misfits/DOA shows Stuff !!!!!!!!Asshole Stop it now Picks?????? the 'fits in philly Devil's Plaything... 3 Hits From Hell & Black Light I got something to ask.. Re: Bobby Steele stuff Re: The next set ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:34:07 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Alan Smaldone <65063@ef.gc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Arizona, Bobby, sXe You lucky wieners! It's got to be nice being on the east coast being able to see the Misfits shows! Anyway, I'm stuck here in Phoenix. Does anyone know if they're planning on coming out west any time soon? Shit, I'd even drive a few hundred miles to see them. Oh, and to the buttnuggets giving Bobby Steele a hard time: BOBBY STEELE WAS IN THE MISFITS. YOU WEREN'T. Seeing as how this is a -MISFITS- mailing list, maybe you should be a little more respectful. One more thing: What are the rules for being straightedge? I mean, let's say there's someone who goes all their life and never does any drugs or anything. Is he straightedge? Or someone who had a few beers last night, and decides they don't like beer anymore, how about them? As far as I'm concerned, a drug is anything that you become addicted to. So then what happens if you become addicted to giving people shit for not being straightedge? ,---------------. _ _ | Put yo' \ |\__/| .~ ~. | weight on | /o=o'`./ .' Rich Smaldone \ it! /\_ {o__, \ { 65063@ef.gc.maricopa.edu `-------------' / . . ) \ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- `-` '-' \ } Dolemite is alright! .( _( )_ .' '---.~_ __| ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: this Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:24:36 -0500 (EST) > From: adam bodnar > > Does anyone know if Jerry Only knows about the movie and if so, don't you > think that the Misfits should have that song on the soundtrack. Both the > Misfits and Tim Burton have that horror-style motif. Actually, I think Jerry knew about this before he wrote the song. He sent a box set and a copy of the lyrics to Tim already. > From: Ken Graf > not 100% correct. For the most part, they seem to be correct, but yes, some > seem to be off. Such as in Angefuck, I always thought it was "Dry your thigh I've been meaning to mention this. The most accurate lyrics on the whole box set are the ones on the STATIC AGE album. Those were the ones Jerry remembered best. So I have a feeling they're okay. > From ?? > Ok, SO I'm a big MetallicA fan, in fact they are my favorite > band. But putting that and my love for punk aside....Doesnt it seem just > a LITTLE odd that the Misfits Box set is as much as the MetallicA one? > The Misfits box Set has 4 CDs, a pin, and a book, in a very cool coffin > box. Metallica is a 10million album selling band with a major major label behind them and four very agreeable band members who work well together. See any differences? > From: Paul Hahn > was so geeked to see detroit on the mini-tour, and then i saw where at > and called jerry all sorts of names. all of which he deserves. about BULLSHIT. Hey Paul, you know I went ahead and faxed Jerry your message and you saw the quick reaction and the note he faxed back. He doesn't deserve to be called names for something he has no knowledge about and you know that. > i've noticed on earlier relaeses the name of the bands was simply > 'misfits', but on collection II and the box set it's 'the misfits.' does > this signify a change? or is it just packaging? oh yeah i agree w/ cg Sounds like packaging. On the first handful of 7" singles, the band was listed as The Misfits. I personally like the old logo and "The Misfits" better. > From: Jerryonly3@aol.com > is the box limmited or anything or can you get it at any store? Also does > anyone know when The Misfits are going to play in Boston Mass.? Get it anywhere. Special order it if you need to. > From: Teevie > I just noticed today the box lyrics for Spook City are wrong too... was > this Jerry's interpretation, or some Caroline flunkie working the > graveyard shift with eight cups of coffee? The lyrics were worked out and decided on BEFORE the tapes were acquired by Caroline. > From: Ed Dycus > For some reason, I was led to believe that the box set was going to have > the original version of Earth A.D. I'm dissapointed it turned out not to > be on there. Does anyone one know if there's any hope of this being > released? After the hearing the difference between Static Age and Legacy > of Dubbing, I'm really dying to hear the REAl version... Fiends, the version of Earth AD that we all know and love is the REAL version. Jerry just doesn't like SPOT's production on that album and thinks it should be mixed differently - that's why he makes those comments about the album. Trust me, even if Jerry remixed it, he wouldn't change it that much. The demos for the album don't sound very different. > From: "AngelfucK" > And I heard someone say earlier that there is only a live version > of Horror Hotel on the box set? Is this true? If so, what is the > version on Collection II like? If anyone could let me know the The person who made that post foolishly neglected to proofread their post. Big mistake. The version on Collectoin II and the box set is the 3 HITS FROM HELL version, the only version they ever recorded. > Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 22:47:13 -0500 > Subject: Help. > > Can anyone help me identify a tape I have? It's a studio session that doesn't > seem to be on the sessions disk of the box set. Let me describe it. About12 Ahh, sounds like it might be the lost Fair Lawn tape. > From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu > cd 2 why legacy? if it is their best-selling album (so jerry > has said) why include it? if it sells so well then i would > assume most fans have it and put something else on there. The idea behind the box set was to include everything... You can't leave off LOB and call it everything. > OK here's my obligatory question: back in 1989 i remember > reading an add in a magazine (maybe rip) for the misfits fan > club. I guess now it was probably the doyle fan club. I sent > for the package they offered (i don't remember if it cost me > anything) and I can not remember everything i got! I do know > Anyway, what I'm wondering is, does anyone know if this was > the doyle club, or maybe the kryst club i was getting stuff > from? Maybe does anyone have any idea what exactly was in that > package? Maybe someone on here got it too. Anyway, I guess i had That was the Doyle Fan Club. The Doyle Fan Club existed to keep in touch with the old Misfits fans and distribute Kryst The Conqueror merchandise - so basically you were on both lists since they were one and the same. There was no real membership package. From time to time Jerry mailed out Doyle posters, catalogs, guitar picks, membership cards and letters. There was a special Xmas package in '89 that included 10 bumper stickers, a KTC flashlight, and a copy of the KTC album on CD and cassette. All this information is on the web page of course. > Oh yeah, Mark, keep that guy's proposal of selling the > Black Light 7" yourself in mind. I plan on seeing them in It's definitely a good idea that I will suggest to the band. > From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) > Now I have a question. What is the signifigance of Reel Platinum > studies. I know there is a session on the sessions disc, and samhain > recorded there. It is in Lodi NJ, Im wondering is this glenns studio? It > seems like Lodi is a small town and wouldnt have a recording studio? There are several studios in Lodi. Most Lodi bands use Reel Platinum at one time or another. It is not Glenn's studio. I think Bob Alleca owns it. > From: Adam Christensen > Subject: More Questions > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:14:48 -0500 (EST) > > to be a little misleading. On the sicker on the coffin it said that the set > included Collection 1, yet it did not include the entire album. The followin > tracks were nowhere to be seen: Bullet > Earth A.D. > Devilock > Death Comes Ripping > Green Hell > Wolfsblood > Then it said that the set included Collection 2, yet the following tracks > were not included: > We Are 138 > Attitude > Last Caress > Return of the Fly > Demonomania > Hellhound > Bloodfeast ??? Did you look at CD#2 or CD#4? Now can you find these "missing" tracks? > The sessions disc was great but I felt that they Had too many versions of the > same song but then only one version of other songs. I desperately > wanted to hear different versions or recording sessions of Die, Die, My Darli > and Mommy, can I go out and kill tonight? There is only one version of thes > songs that I have ever heard and probably will ever hear. That sucks royal > dick, wouldn't you all agree? There is only one version of Mommy to hear. It was only recorded ONCE. There may be a second version of Die Die My Darling, but if Caroline Records does not have the master tape, they can't do anything else. Warner Brothers currently owns the master tape to the Walk Among Us album. > From Jholford > Does anyone know if Jerry/Doyle or even glenn has ever seen the > bible? Jerry has seen printouts of the bible. Glenn has seen the web page, as I posted a few issues ago. > From ?? > I also think ten bucks is pretty steep for a 7" and a poster. Is there a > good reason for this being so expensive? Yes, as I stated in an early issue, the money from this single will be used to pay for the production, studio time, recording, and distribution of the next Misfits album. > > If the Misfits are going to be truly DIY, where does Caroline fit into > all of this? Last I heard, they were owned by Virgin. Hardly seems DIY > to me. Is Caroline going to be putting out the new stuff? Misfits ads > in Spin????????? Say it isn't so. Hold on, I think I have to puke. Caroline puts out old Misfits stuff only. New Misfits stuff will be put out by The Misfits. yeah. that's all for now. read some back issues fiends. mark ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:21:46 +1100 Subject: hello and reply Hello All Warhammer here I am new to the bible but i assure Iam a true fiend and have been for quite some time. I am 18 yrs old and I just love the bible. I must admit that I have not been a fan as long as the rest of you probably have but I love the Misfits as well as Danzig and Samhain. i have been reading all your postings and have to say that I was in disagreement with the individual who said that Glen was a terrible singer. He is, and has been for about 6 years now, my favorite singer. I love all of his bands equally and I really think that regardless of his personality that the man has true talent in fact i am a little skeptical about this new Misfits singer I am assuming that he fits the sound of the band but I don't know if I am ready to accept the misfits w/o Glen however i intend to buy anything the band puts out just because it is the misfits. On another note i think it is great to have Bobby here with us even if it is just for a short time it gives us a very good chance to hear what he has to say. The point that Bobby made that I totally agree with is the fact that the Misfits was Glen's baby if you will and despite what he may or may not have done he deserves the recognition for if it were not for him all this would not be here there would be no fiends and that would just suck. Also I have to add to the hype of the box set. I personally caould not afford a copy just yey but a good friend of mine was nice enough to let me copy the discs and I will say that it has to be the best damn box set in existance. It blows the pants off the Metallica box set a set which although there are three different dics all the sets contain the same fukin material. But I digress this is the misfits journal and I only wish to discuss misfits anyway. I think the set is just the greatest. I will say that I had heard pretty much all the material on the damn thing thru bootlegs and actual releases but the set just fukin rocks I mean the sound quality is obviously far superior to my bootlegs. Well I could go on forever, but I don't wanna waste bible space I've already done enough of that So long fellow fiends I will return The Warhammer "I put an axe in my baby's head I'm gonna end up doing time She looked so good in RED American nightmare running scared ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:21:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Regan Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #151 Anyone know what court and when the lawsuit b/tJerry and Glenn was filed? I am a law student and can pull up trial transcripts via Lexis-Nexis an legal database....please respond to me and not via this digest cause I'll never find it.... P.S. any one ever hear Evan Dando sing an acoustic version of "Skulls" I heard it the other night...if it was done tounge in cheek its cool, but if he was serious, what a loser! "Death, In its Arms!" Jim "DEAD WHITE TRASH" Regan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 05:14:36 -0600 (CST) From: Lee Bruner Subject: Even Kentuckians Do That Misfits Thang! Hey all My friend and I have been reading the Bible for about 3-4 issues now. We really like it, keep up the good work. Did anyone have to return his/her box set due to black shit being on the back of one of the discs???? xxiippyy ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: question Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:31:03 -0500 (EST) hi, i know you are all sick of box set related q's, but i was curious if any of u knew how to get in touch with cdnow, who someone said had a good price on the set. if u know their # or something, please email me at: obrien81@matrix.newpatz.edu. i am hoping to go to some of those northeast misfits shows in april, so if any of u from the new york area wanna split a ride, get in touch, cause it seems as though they will not be coming close to NY, so i am thinking of hitting the road to get to the NJ/boston shows or something. take care everyone & talk soon! some signatures are really silly and huge. - e ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:57:47 -0600 From: Jolanta C Biniek Subject: no car, no show hey there, anybody passing through Chicago on their way to a Misfits show? i'd love to get to one of them, but i'm car-less and none of my friends on wheels like the Misfits enough to go. Anybody willing to take me along for gas, hotel $$, whatever??? i'd love to work something out w/ a bible member[s]. thanks! -jolanta c. biniek jbiniek@shrike.depaul.edu ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:56:20 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #151 Has anyone out here heard anything by "chyna" yet-- also have any of you heard the "times square" demo yet? if so please tell me what you think of them... also in Bible 151-someone posted about the Misfits of Ska cd,and the band The Independants-well I saw the independents a few months ago, and there were many misfits related sightings... 1)the singer sounds like Glenn Danzig 2)on the back of the singers jacket is a picture of a skull w/ a devilock 3)the band did a ska version of "Mother" also my band is thinking of covering Samhain's "Misery Tomb", but we are having a hard time figuring out all of the lyrics, and we cant figure out the guitar parts or the bass parts, oh yeah, we are especially having a lot of trouble figuring out the accordion part-but my grandfather is gonna help me with it. Bobby-would you mind if my band covered "Put Your Clothes Back On"? we are considering it.....BTW its great to be able to contact you on a regular basis, please keep your account!!!! straight edge XXX straight edge XXX straight edge XXX straight edge XXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX If I could, I would kill every non-straight edge person in the whole wide big large world....that was a joke..... Any fiends here going to the shows in RI or CT, e-mail me, and we'll meet up!!! later love goatboy- ptyc ------------------------------ From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:25:33 GMT Subject: Static Age case So many people seem to be having trouble getting into the Static Age case in the box set. Well, as soon as I picked my copy up it fell open! Still, I paid more for the fucking thing (equivalent to $90!). ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:49:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: hey mister, you didn't pay for your rice cakes Man o man, I am still so psyched over the box set.....I've listened to Earth ad almost nonstop. You gotta understand, that was the first fits album I ever heard....first time I heard it I was like "what the fuck is this?" but then in grew on me. and i think we all agree that earth ad is just about the most unlistenable (please, I mean that in a GOOD way) of all the Misfits albums. So basically that album's always been pretty important to me. Ok so here's the shit: all I've got is the tape..I'd like a copy of it on vinyl or cd so I can better appreciate the cover (my only complaint of the box set is no reproduction of the cover.....even considering how eerie von praised it in his liner notes!)... so I know the cd is hard to come by but if anyone has a copy of it or the vinyl or knows a friend who has it or knows a nearby store that has either of them, I would appreciate it very much if you'd e-mail me & let me know....also the price, too. One last thing: and this is in defense of 2 (i think) of the best players in the band: I've read in several articles or posts how a lot of people consider Doyle the least skilled guitarist ever to play in the band. I think that's bullshit. Sometimes I'll hook up my guitar and try to play along to Evilive, and that motherfucker is on fire!!!! He's playing incredibly fast, and you can only hear him loose his pace maybe once or twice if you really listen for it. Sure he (at the time) couldn't (or wouldn't) play hook licks like bobby or franche but keep in mind he was what, 16? I really don't know how is playing is these days, tho, so I'm looking forward to checking it out in concert. 2: Robo! How can you not respect robo? Of all the drummers for the fits I think he had the most to offer. Sure, Mr. Jim had the cymbal, rockabilly-like thing going, and both Googy and (from the little I've heard of him) Joey image were really good, but Robo was the shit. Now that i can actaully hear earth ad (god i hate cassetes) i'm amazed at how fast that guy is playing. And keep in mind he was doing the new stuff; he'd probably destroy all the older stuff cause he'd be able to slow it down. If he could sound so could that fast I bet he'd have no problem with the static or walk songs. Anyway I just wanted to ramble. Everybody on here always talks about the old 'fits songs, like they're the best ones. Bullshit. Respect is due to the last Misfits line-up (i'm not considering brian damage). I'm gonna go play green hell again. Later toughguys, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:59:53 -0600 (CST) From: Legion Subject: Membership packages Hello, fiends. As mentioned in the last Bible issue, Mark suggested that fiends be generous and share their membership packages with fiends who did not make the cutoff date. And since there is 2 of the stickers and cards, and 11 flyers, would anybody be interested in sharing? I will pay $$ if fiends are THAT stubborn, but just remember that we ALL want to be loyal members of the fiend club! Yours fiendishly, Legion (we are many) ------------------------------ From: CPERSL@acd.mhc.ab.ca Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:06:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: D.O.A i read on the last issue that D.O.A will be with the misfits at all of the dates. being canadian ihave seen D.OA numerous times in calgary and in my home town 2 hours south. that being the case will these two mature rocking bands be swinging north? i know calgary is known fot the stampede and it does have its share of billy ray cyrus faggots but ther is also a large local punk scene, when the beastie boys came ticketmster sold 4000 tickets at $30 in just under 2 hours. there is a great horror influenced band that remind me of the misfits. they are called the forrbidden dimention and they paint up their faces and they have a slide show going during their sets whick show pics of horror movies etc. the frontman i guess writes all the songs, and does the typography and illustrations ala glenn. i saw one of their shows expecting to see a misfit clone band but instead af a punk hard sound it is more surf punk. they have 2 albums on cargo records. anyway some one should make a suggestion to expand the tour into western canada, calgary, edmonton, kelowna of course vancouver, but that is a 12 hour drive through the deadly rocky mountains ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:24:42 -0500 From: Green Jesus Subject: Detroit Shows (The Harpo's Story) It's a good thing The 'Fits are not going to Harpo's, I used to work there- And here is my story... First of all, The owners are a bunch of assholes who don't give a shit about their customers (just their money). All of their beer on tap is the cheapest shit you can buy (Milwaukee's best light or something like that) and their alcohol is all cheap shit put in the good bottles, for example Jack Daniels is really Evan Williams cheap bourbon. There are always a bunch of bums hanging around hassling the customers, I've seen them rob people who get kicked out by the bouncers and thrown in the alley. Another enlightening bit of information I'd like to share with you, Those cheap pitchers of beer you people always buy, were more than likely picked out of the toilet, puked in, shit in, pissed in, used as an ashtray, thrown in the garbage and picked back out, right before their cleaned out with a quick swish of bleach water and filled with Harpo's famous piss-water for you to enjoy. I know this for a fact, because I had to retrieve them a few times myself. ......And let's not forget about Steve Krass, from The Feisty Cadavers who lost his life a month ago at Harpo's My suggestions for a venue would be: 1. The Palladium (formerly the Ritz) at Gratiot & Frazho in Roseville (suburban area) - Lots & lots of Parking, close to I-696 I think it holds around 1500-2000 but I could be mistaken 2. The State Theatre, Nice place- not alot of parking though Gotta Go... Green Jesus |-------------------------------------------------| | Here's my fucking Signature | |-------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 18:24:54 -0500 Subject: comments i may be the only one but, i'm tired of hearing all this crap about how bad lob is. i'll be the first to say static age is ten times better but, do you really need to beat it into the ground? if it wasn't for this list you may not even know that there may have been overdubs and you'd love it until you heard static age. and who is anyone to say someone else's opinion is wrong!? mike mollura told me jerry and eric from solefish were listening to lob and jerry seems to think it was just re-mixed NOT RE-RECORDED. i don't know this for a fact but, that's what i was told and i think it's true. most likely glenn re-mixed it. also, i think if jerry is screwing bobby out of money we should know. if everyone wants to talk about glenn doing it why shouldn't we know about jerry doing it. if he's not what does he have to worry about?unfortunatly no one will ever be able to put the politics aside and just enjoy the music. that's why we listen. because glenn had a great voice, the musicians were good, the songs were good. not because jerry is a nice guy who doesn't care about money, or because glenn is a shrewd businessman. i'm not into the new misfits thing because i think it should be called something else. i don't wanna' hear kryst the conquerer. i want the misfits! that's what i expect from a band called the misfits! if i wanted to hear kryst i'd go to church. that's just my 2cents. later. Don "Evil" Dieffenbach "...there is a human slaughterhouse..." ------------------------------ From: mangel@big12.metrobbs.com Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:01:04 -0500 Subject: Bobby Steele Hello, my name is John Michaels, I currently manage a band called Morphine Angel, but between the years of 1992 and 1994, I managed a NYC punk band named The Undead. I'm writing this letter in response to the letter sent in by Neil reguarding Bobby Steele. I do not intend to be as nice as Bobby was in making comments, and let this be more of a testimonial on Bobby Sttele, Jerry Only, and Glenn Danzig, than a rebuttle to a letter. The first time I ever spoke with Bobby was when I was 16 years old. I was a Misfits record collecter. I had, and still have a bootleg, live Misfits show from Passaic NJ on red vynil. The infamous Hittsville record, where a very recognizable voice shouted into the mic somewhere in the middle of Teenagers From Mars "Bobby Steele's an asshole fucking cunt..." etc... I decided, having an open mind, and after listening to the record countleess times, to find out who said that, why, and to find out about this Bobby Steele cat. The first clue was the mentioning of THE UNDEAD on the record. I bought "Act Your Rage" and wrote a letter to Post Mortem records, asking about Bobby, at the same time I wrote Caroline records, and the address given ContPlan9, as well as Def American, looking for an answer. Continued in next msg... ------------------------------ From: mangel@big12.metrobbs.com Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 18:13:22 -0500 Subject: Bobby Steele II Continued from prev. msg Weeks passed and I thought for sure the quest was over, until I got a letter from Bobby stating that he would love to chat about his involvment with the 'fits. Point A - Bobby Steele cares enough about his fans to take time to read his mail. Not saying that I was an UNDEAD fan, I just knew that he was the only person to reply. Bobby's response just re-affirmed the fact that he has nothing to hide about anything that happened with the Misfits. The other letters must have been delivered, because they were never returned to me. Next in the saga, Bobby Steele as a business man. I was 18, promoting local punk shows in town. I went to see The Undead at the Masquerade in Atlanta, Bobby let me backstage, and we discussed the possibilities of an Undead show in my town. A few months passed, I called Bobby about a show, he was 100% up front and honest about the show, he sent me press kit's, demo material, and all contracts and paperwork on time, and they were signed and returned also with no problem. The show happened, everyone got paid, and after the show Bobby gave me a Green Vynil "Act Your Rage" LP (limited edition of 50). Point B - Bobby dosen't lie cheat or steal when it comes to business. After that show, Bobby and I had a good working relationship, I found out the name of the factory that Jerry worked at and decided to give Jerry a call. After hearing Jerry's side of the story, things became a bit clearer, Jerry stated that the reason Bobby was "fired," or "kicke out" (I'm unsure of the exact word he used) was because "Bobby didn't show up on time for a recording session, and my little brother (Doyle) was there so he played the tracks." In itself this was a true statment, Bobby will offer the reasons WHY he didn't make it to the studio, but in when it comes down to it, Jerry's statment was correct, and not 1 time did Jerry ever infer that Bobby was a bad guitar player, nerver once was Bobby's ability to perform in the band ever questioned by Jerry in the 1 hour conversation that we had. So in my eyes it comes down to this so far, maybe Jerry isn't the bad guy everyone thinks, he could be, but in my mind theres no proof. If that statment is correct, then maybe Bobby isn't the whiner and complainer that everyone see's him as. Bobby, Jerry, Doyle, Joey, and everyone else in that band are equil on 1 level, THEY ARE ALL TRYING TO GET THE MONEY AND RECOGNITION THAT IS DUE THEM. After doing countless shows with The Undead, I proposed to Bobby that I manage the band, Bobby concurred. This was in 1992, keep in mind at this time Bobby had NO BAND, NO RECORD LABEL SUPPORT, and not much favorable press, but knowing the lasting power of Bobby, and The Undead I said "ok, who cares ...lets do it." We did it, with no band I booked a 2 midwest tours, got hype about the Undead to MTV, got Bobby into and backstage to a G&R, Metallica, FNM SOLD OUT SHOW, on 2 days notice. I took heat from every single Misfits fan, every single Club, and every magazine, that didn't like Bobby or the Undead for whatever reason, and together Bobby and I turned their opinion around usually by just talking to them. I can personally attest to the fact that about 80% of everything you hear about the Misfits, Jerry, Glenn, Bobby, or whoever is a lie, based on a rumor. Its all apathy that was created by the industry, by the clubs, and by the fans. My opinion why? The Misfits were a band that got popular after they broke up, Maybe some people were upset that they could never see their favorite band, maybe some people felt cheated that they weren't a part of the movement they wanted to be in, and nobody EVER set the record straight as th what REALLY happened. The only thing anyone could go on was what existed, such as the Hittsville record. Many people probably listened to it and took it at face value without ivestigating like I did. Many people just heard what it said on the record and got the mindset that Bobby Steele, and The Undead were taboo (I know a lot of clubs and magazines that thought that). I managed the undead for 2 years, in those 2 years, I have toured with, worked for, and even lived with The Undead, and not one time has Bobby Steele ever had a different answer to the same question. I have asked Jerry the same question many a time, and I have recieved a different answer every time. I am in no way shape or form calling ANYONE a liar, and I am not trying to infer that ANYONE has ever lied or not lied. I am just stating the facts, and if you look at what I state as the facts, things become a bit clearer. I don't have the time to write a book on what I know about Glenn, Jerry, and Bobby, but I will state what I know, and if you have a question or comment, please feel free to post it, if it's something I cant answer then Bobby can. Fact 1 - Bobby Steele cares about his rep, and his fans or he wouldn't answer mail. Fact 2 - Jerry dosen't seem to have 1 solid story to stick by, then again out of everything that I heard from Jerry there was never any attempt to slay Bobby, or Glenn, Jerry might just be confused. Fact 3 - Bobby is not a Wealthy person, every time Bobby had money it was invested in the band, or equiptment for the band, or whatever. Both Jerry and Glenn had money to support themselves and their band, and Jerry had enough money to attack Glenn legaly, not Bobby. (where would things be if Bobby had won the court case, and the name?) Fact 4 - Glenn Danzig said that "Bobby Steele is the best guitar player he ever worked with (in the misfits)." Do you still think the band owes him nothing? Fact 5 - The Undead opened for the Misfits on several occasions (one night in particular the Misfits recorded their show, later it was released under the name Evilive). They must have been friends at one time, even when Doyle was in the band, what happened? and why would Bobby SUPPORT LIVE a band that he had vengence for? Fact 6 - Glenn Danzig, Gelnn's lawyer, and Glenn's managment refused to talk to me about mechanical royalty claims, artist royalty claims, and other things pertaining to Bobby Steele. We tried to get our money the civil way! Fact 7 - Bobby Steele has come forth on the internet and in public forum to A. CLEAR HIS NAME, B. Get what is rightfully his BY LAW, and C. Offer any services that may help clear up misunderstandings, and promote the new Misfits recordings. ....contd on next msg ------------------------------ From: mangel@big12.metrobbs.com Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 18:45:00 -0500 Subject: Bobby Steele III contd. from last msg. Fact 8 - THE MOST IMPORTANT FACT - HUNDREDS of rumors are flying around about ALL of the Misfits, the way I see it at this point is, If I dont hear it straight from Bobby, Jerry, Doyle, or Glenn, or anyone else involved in the subject, I DON'T BELIEVE IT! Has anyone ever stopped to think who the real bad guy is? Who is the person responsible for not paying royalties to the right people? Who was responsible for mis-communication between me and Glenn, or Bobby and Glenn, or Jerry and Glenn for that matter. It may have been the fault of Caroline, or Glenn's accountint, we don't know and we probably never will. In closing I wan't to share just one thing with Neil and everyone else reading this. The music industry is the most thankless, cut throat business there is. People live and die in the music industry at the snap of somones fingers, could be yours, could be mine. In this business, your reputation is all you have, and when someone steps on your reputation, the only thing you can do is fight back. There is no way to win, all you can do is clear your name, all you can do is dodge the heat. In this business there are winners, and there are loosers, and the predator does NOT pity the prey. There are people who thrive on putting other people down, why, because the only way that they can catch you is to bring you down to their level. That is what people like Neil do, they trash somebody in a public forum to get attention. The only way to fight people like that is to ignore them, so keep this in mind everytime you read something bad about Bobby, Jerry, or anyone, stop and think if it's really true, and where can you find out if it is or not. Bobby Steele isn't whining, nor is he here to cause havoc, Bobby Steele is here to provide a facet for your questions. He's here to clear up misconceptions, and to tell his side of what happened, is Jerry? is Glenn? I am hoping that they will, the only way to get the story straight is if we put Glenn, Jerry, Bobby, Joey Image, Franchie Coma, Arthur Googy, Robo, Manny, about 4 recording engineers including Spot, and even Henry Garfield, and Ian Macaye in one room with a tape recorder and start asking questions, until then I see it as this, EVERYBODY DESERVES TO GET PAID, Jerry, Doyle, Bobby, Joey, and anyone else involved, it is irrelavent that Bobby's still in a band, or that Jerry worked at a factory, or that Doyle tapes his devilock on ALL OF THIS HAS NO BEARING ON THE FACT that everyone deserves their fair share, and so far Jerry and Doyle, and possibly Robo, are the only ones to see theirs. Bobby Steele should be commended on coming forth on the ineternet to answer questions with his own time and money, and I think that if your going to go see the Misfits, keep one thing in mind, what you are watching is not the same band it was 14 years ago, it's not the sound, its not the atmosphere either, what it IS, is an attempt to earn back what was lost, and to keep a dream alive. My hopes are that Bobby gets paid, and that millions of kids get to see a band that was a landmark band at one time, and hear some good music, and that everyone else involved gets their fair share. As for people that would like to talk to me about what I have wrote, or any questions pertaining to my involvment with The Undead, my mailbox is open. -John Michaels Ex Manager - The Undead ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:41:52 -0500 Subject: stuff galore & more howdy! first off, i'm looking for the following records, in whatever print die,die my darling 12 " night of the .... 7" halloween 7" 3 Hits From Hell 7" Horror Biz 7" please contact me if you are willing to sell any of these secondly, the box set is great(i'm sure you've heard this millions of times so I won't bore you.)! i sent a letter to the fiends club for membership around late-jan., will i get a package, do ya think, mark? (i hope so) this next question is for mark also: Will there be anyway to order the black light record thru the bible? this is a question for bobby steele, or for mark: what is the reason there is no pictures of you in the box set? and could you(bobby) send me a catalog of your stuff? thanks send it to chris blair 16 chatsford court bloomington, IL, 61704 thank you for your time, krusty704 ------------------------------ From: Drslfin@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 00:26:04 -0500 Subject: Hey CG Hey there CG.. was just checking to see if you had mailed the pics to the Jaime fund contributors. My address has changed so email me for the new one. Thanks. Jamie drslfin@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:57:22 GMT From: "One more night spent On your mirror......" Subject: Dave vanian singing with the Misfits??????? I know that Dave Vanian (Phantom Chords, ex. Damned) is singing with the 'fits on the 29th in Bradford. Is this just a one off? 'Cause the guys mentioned in some interview that they wanted him for the job of new singer and i quote(well sort of) "We wanted someone with a real manly sound to there singing and he (Dave Vanian) has really got that sort of macho tone that we're looking for." Can any one shed any light (or even darkness) onto this subject?? Thanx .Kurtz. "Not only did i see your precious angels but i shredded their wings and tore out their hearts as well." ------------------------------ From: Stewart Muir Gallacher <9243471G@student.gla.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:49:42 BST Subject: Misfits in Edinburgh (Mar.12 1996) Well the first date of the Misfits tour went ahead last night at Edinburgh's Music Box. Myself and my brother, Iain, drove through in the afternoon and arrived in Edinburgh at about 4pm (I live in Glasgow which is about 50 miles away). The weather was TERRIBLE, freezing cold and snowing hard. At 6pm we headed over to the venue to meet up with my friend Scott Bisset- we tried to get in, hoping to meet the band and talk to them for a little while before the gig, but the guy at the venue said that no one was getting in until 7:30 whether we were on the guest list or not- so we adjourned to the bar next door for the next hour or so. When we went back outside at about 7:30, we found that there was nobody waiting to get in- and this was opening time- so the four of us (we met up with another guy who had driven up from Cumbria) went inside. The music box is a small venue, but it looked pretty big when there were only half a dozen people in the crowd! Sardonica went on at about 8:15 or so and by this time there was a bigger crowd in attendance- a lot of people had apparently been delayed by the heavy snow- they were pretty good, although I wasn't familiar with any of their material- they played a punk cover of Hendrix's "Hey Joe" which was pretty good. The crowd response was subdued but polite. Next up were the English Dogs- again a band which I wasn't familiar with. The hall was beginning to fill up by this time, and the crowd response was more active. After this it was the misfits- the first thing I noticed was CHUD's amazing drum kit- it is a HUGE kit, covered in big spikes on the drums and on top of the cymbals- his kick drum had a big Crimson Ghost skull on the front and had a light bulb inside to alluminate it. The band took the stage- Doyle and Jerry looked massive- even bigger in the flesh than they look in photos- Michale Graves looked much like a young Glenn- smaller than the 2 brothers. They immediately kicked in with Halloween and the crowd went wild- I managed to get a position right at the front of the stage, just in front of Doyle which gave me a great view. The sound was excellent- they are extremely tight, but without loosing any of the aggression of the old days. Michale is an excellent frontman, and encouraged plenty of audience participation during the songs and sang really well. I managed to get a photo of most of the set-list which was pinned on a post near Doyle:- Halloween;Horror Business;Martian..;Death Comes Ripping;All Hell Breaks Loose;Static Age;TV Casualty;Hybrid Moments;Last Caress;Skulls;She;Teenagers..;Children in Heat;Violent World;Vampira; Black Light; The Haunting;Dead Kings Rise;Mars Attacks;The Hunger;NOTLD;20 Eyes;Hollywood Babylon;Horror Hotel;Ghouls Night Out;Angelfuck;Attitude;London Dungeon;Astrozombies;Hatebreeders;Bullet After this I don't know the order, but I know that in addition they played Earth AD; Queen Wasp; Devilock; Mommy; Die Die; Wolfsblood;Bloodfeast; 138; Eagles; American Nightmare (!!!); Come Back; Devils Whorehouse They may have played some more, but I think that's everything. As far as the new stuff goes, it's hard to remember what the songs were like after hearing them only once- they did sound good though, and I'm looking forward to being able to get recorded versions of these. The performance was nothing short of incredible- they put an amazing amount of energy and aggression into their performance- Doyle must have broken at least half a dozen strings throughout the show- his roady (who was the guitarist with Sardonica) handed a couple of the broken strigs to my brother and I got one of Doyle's plectrums. we missed out on a drumstick, although my friend Scott managed to get one. I shook hands with all the band members before they left the stage. After the performance we waited for a while to see if we could meet the band, and sure enough after a little while they came back into the club. They were all very friendly, and autographed some of my stuff which I had brought along- Doyle and Jerry were both surprised when they saw I had the Kryst the Conqueror CD with me and asked where I got it from. They were giving away pictures of the new lineup, which they also signed for the fans who had waited behind to meet them- they were great guys and looked as if they were having a good time. We left a little later. This was a show I had been looking forward to for a while now and it was absolutely INCREDIBLE- it lived up to my highest expectations and even surpassed them with the quality of the performance. I took some photos during the show- some of them were pretty good, although they were not all as clear as I would have liked because of the fake fog which was pumped out from under the stage- this didn't affect visibility during the show, but seemed to show up more markedly on the photos. The gig was videotaped from at least 3 different shots, so I'm hoping to get a tape of the show sometime soon with a bit of luck... I just hope that we can get to see the Misfits again in Scotland sometime in the future. -stewart gallacher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 18:16:30 -0800 (PST) From: David Graedon Subject: Misifits of ska To Eric C Graham: You are right on target when you mentioned the Independents. They are a very good band. The lead singer sounds a lot like a cross between Danzig and Elvis, a bit more Elvisy w/ a deep voice, but really good range. They opened for the Ramones in Winston Salem, NC at Ziggies, and they won over a hard crowd who had been waiting for the Ramones for 2 hours. They are very horror sounding, in fact they bill themselves as horror ska. There logo is like spooky misfits drippy letters w/ a skeleton for the "i". At their show they even did a cover of a Danzig song. They started by doing mother straight, I mean it sounded exaclty the same, and after the first verse they launched into a ska version of it along w/ a disparaging comment about Glenn. I am not a big Danzig fan, much prefer the fits, but it blew my mind. Their full length is called in for the kill, on Rockduster Records in Greensboro, NC. I think you can e-mail Rockduster at rockduster@aol.com, although I am not sure, and they might have changed address since then. the cd was either $12 of $15 dollars ppd., I don't remember. They are worth checking out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:59:21 -0500 From: amcdermo@interlog.com (Fiend138) Subject: The Bible... & Bobby To start off this is a response after reading bible #150: To: Everyone I have been subscribed to the bible since around #60. But I have never posted. Today I will post. About me: I am a fiend who has liked the misfits for a couple years now. I like samhain but dislike Danzig. I have heard Kryst and I feell they are ok. Also I have heard the Undead and they are ok too. I just received my boxset last thursday and its beautiful. Talking to Jerry I said it to him and will say it to you " The boxset is the difinitive misfits item." All the hard work and time that went into it is well worth it in my eyes. I already had all the material on Disc 1 &2 but was ncie to have on CD. As for Disc 3 I think it is the best part. I liked the different versions from different sessions and time periods. Disc 4 was also remarkable. I like having it and I liked the special kit. As for the actual box I think the coffin was really good and EErie did an exceptional job with the notes. To Bobby: I too have a handicap. I have never met any member of the Misfits, atleast till the MAY 10 show!!!(btw- that is the handicap) I have talked to Jerry a couple times about the Toronto show and about the boxset. I have never had the opprotunity to converse with Glenn so I can only judge is image from articles and second Hand accounts. From what I have seen Glenn is an exceptional singer/songwriter. Glenn also likes to be known for his current musical jobs not from his past. What do I know about you. In the bible posts you have sent I have found out alot about you. But again I have never met you in person. What I have seen is someone who is bitter about being expunged from a successful musical group. You are alos a person who likes to be a victim. This is displayed with 2 examples: Being a cripple & being poor. As for being a cripple you are what you let yourself be. If you let it be an excuse than that is what it/you will be. If you are happy with that, then you are happy. As for being poor: Get a job! This sounds aggressive but it is true. If you can work you will not be poor. If you cannot work why are you not on compensation? As for Jerry being in it for the money. This is none our business. I think you lowered yourself when you needed to win support by saying that you are owed money. Like the court transcripts the money distribution is not any of the fans business. Therefore your posts about it have made you look like the fool. Also by posting about money it looks like you are simply using us to get to Jerry. It makes you look like a child. I would like to finish saying That I have never met you or Glenn. The opinions I have expressed are considered from what you have posted and interviews. Fiend 138 Toronto Ontario Canada #misfits Operator * Any Canadian fiends interested in meeting b4 teh show on May 10 mail me and we'll set it up. ------------------------------ From: Bruce Lee Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:35:23 -5 Subject: Bruce's new addy... Okay, I moved and I'm letting all the people I've ever talked to know about it... if you've been wanting to write, but lost my address, I'm now back at my old address: mnance@marsh.vinu.edu. That's all. Sorry this had nothing to do with the Misfits... how 'bout I throw in a pointless quote? "Bitch... Bitch he yelled!" There, Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:31:02 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Leitman Subject: aarrgh ... i obvously have to read things more closely... This one goes out to "Angelfuck" aka Roger Holmes. I read your post about the Spectrum here in montreal cancelling on the Misfits and my heart sank. I had never heard anything about this. When I first read the Misfits tour itinerary, I didn't see montreal... so i thought "oh well, another in the list of thousands of great bands who skip montreal and go right to Totonto" and then skipped the rest in disgust. Now that I've re-read the post... I'm even more disgusted. FUCK THIS PISSES ME OFF. We (me and other misfits fans from montreal) came so close to getting the show here... but noooooo... the powers that be at the Spectrum (or possibly the local concert production company) decided that the Misfits wouldn't do well here (because Danzig didn't sell out his last show) I was there for the Danzig show, and it was not a sell-out. But it wasn't a failure by any means. errrrr. Now I'm going to have to drive 6 hours to get to Toronto... oh well, it should be a good trip. All in the name of the 'FITS. BTW, Where in canada are you from ? And will you be at the TO show ? later. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 18:37:13 -0500 From: "James W. Watson" Subject: fiend club I just wanted to tell you all that i got the fiend club package the otherday. It was pretty cool and the stickers are fucking awesome. The t-shirts they're selling are alright but i guess i kind of like the older black and white ones better...they look meaner. oh yeah, STOP FUCKING BITCHING about the whole fucking Bobby-Jerry, or Bobby-Misfits thing. shit i spent about twenty minutes scrolling through articles about why bobby is an ass or why he deserves money. GIVE IT A REST. these people are grown adults they can (hopefully) solve their own problems and they don't need every person that ever typed to give their two cents. This is getting worse than that whole smoking thing. another thing i'd like to say is that jerry called my house a month ago to talk to me since i joined the fiend club. that was really cool of him, you guys probably like talk to him every night, but to me i can't even to believe a person from a band i listen to called me .... and damn i wasn't even home, he talked to my mom! jim ------------------------------ From: ewebb@ycp.edu Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:46:58 EST Subject: Lancaster, Philly, and DC shows. Fiends, anybody going to the Lancaster, Philly and or DC shows drop me a line. I am lucky enough to be in York (well, unlucky actually) and GET TO GO TO THREE MISFITS SHOWS IN A WEEK!!!!! I kinda feel like i might cry. ***** BOBBY: i'm broke too. guess what, nobody fucking cares.***************** I think we should get together and sponser a Pay Per View event, Danzig versus Rollins. It would be great. We could sell T shirts and Don King could be our promoter. webb (ewebb@ycp.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:30:17 EST From: Ken Graf Subject: Providence show Hey fiends, is anyone else going to the show in Providence, RI? If so, tell me! I'm going with a bunch of friends who live near me but it would be cool to meet any bible members at the show and hang out or just say what's up. Let me know. --Lord Kenatos ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:23:12 GMT0BST Subject: London Dungeon Hola F(r)iends! I shall be seeing the worlds greatest"Horror Punk, I'm Gonna Kick Your Fuckin' Ass If You Get In My Mother Fuckin' Way, You Punk Ass Byatch" outfit ever assembled on Sunday. I shall report back to y'all in Tuesday's Bible to tell you if I saw the Misfits or, as Bobby Steele fancies, Kryst the Conqueror. O, and Bobby, all the fiends want to hear more about you. That is YOU and less of what you have to say about Jerry and Doyle. WE love what you did in the' fits, and want to hear all about it. But WE can make up our own mind about Jerry and Doyle's revival of the band we love. And as for this money crap: I don't give a shit. Get a lawyer and sue, the Bible is not the place for the slander of the band we're here to elevate and appreciate. I would personally like to hear a brief history of your time with the 'fits, ect. ect. Aaron Proctor ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:10:52 -0500 Subject: Re: day off I don't know what happened between me and Glenn. I can only speculate, from what I've read. I've talked about this in other interviews. We never had any kind of practice schedule. Everyday, I'd call Jerry and ask if we were gonna practice. He would say 'no'. Now I've read interviews, where Glenn says I never showed up for practice. From this, and comments made by Jerry, I began to suspect that Jerry wanted to take over THE MISFITS. As long as the line-up included me and Googie, it was a neutral thing. Glenn was the brains behind the band, and we accepted that fact. Jerry needed someone on his side. So, he made me look like I was sabotageing Glenn's dream, and convinced GLenn to fire me, and bring in Doyle. Now there were two against Glenn. The music changed, and things eventually fell apart.This is just speculation. Some of my suspicions must've been true, 'cause everything I predicted has happened, and now Jerry is the leader of THE MISFITS. Me and Jerry didn't make up, because he refused to give me my cut of what he said was a $650,000.00 advance from Caroline Records. He denied ever saying anything negative about me in any interviews - in other words calling Mike Stax, among others a fraud - according to Jerry that TEENAGERS FROM MARS that everyone has heard, never happened. I just wanted him to admit that all that stuff wasn't true, and clear my reputation. He wants me to be his friend, but he doesn't seem to want to fix the damage that's been caused here. Here's Jerrry's quote from Jersey Beat #40 Q: THE FIRST QUESTION THE GUY AT ATLANTIC ASKED WAS, 'DO YOU OWN THE RIGHTS TO THE MISFITS STUFF?' A: THEY IMMEDIATELY WANT TO JUMP ON THAT BUT I'M WASHING MY HANDS ON IT. GLEN AND BOBBY (STEELE) ARE TRYING TO BANK ON THE MISFITS. I'M NOT INTERESTED. WE'RE BEYOND THAT. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR AUDIENCE. YOU CAN'T LEAD PEOPLE INTO DESTRUCTION. THAT'S WHAT I NEVER LIKED ABOUT GLENN AND THE WHOLE SATANIC TRIP. HE'S DRAGGING PEOPLE DOWN AND HE DOESN'T CARE AS LONG AS HE'S MAKING A BUCK. Something isn't right about this. This was written in 1990. The only record out at that time that had any kind of 'EX-MISFITS' sticker was KRYST THE CONQUERROR. It was comments like this one that helped foster my suspicions about what he was up to. >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:17:42 -0500 (EST) >From: Jon Holford > > Anyways, its an idea. I think it would be better to get him a >true internet account rather than AOL,but I dont know how PC literate he >is. Let me know what you guys think. I'm fairly literate, but more in the Graphics area than anything else. I'm pretty good at figuring things out, as long as I get a little info on the thing. What's a true internet account as opposed to AOL? As far as a BOBBYTHON goes. It looks like the response to this is pretty good, and only after one week. I'm getting a few mail-orders, so It's looking like I might stay on-line with a piece of the profits from the sales I'm getting from this. Thanks for the support. I never realized how powerful this could be. I wish I'd done it years ago. Cheaper than stamps. > And Bobby, please in no way take offense to this, I just dont >want you to get offended or anything. I wouldnt think of this as charity >or a handout, cause i'm sure we all would love to hear from you in each >issue. No offense taken. > Also, if this plan is put into affect,it would be nice to know of >some good internet service providers in the New York(is that right) area. >Let me know what you guys think of this, and I hope 10 other people >havent already suggested it. If anyone has any info on a good Internet provider in New York City, let me know. All I really need is an email address anyway. >From: "William P. Musso" >Subject: just a few random comments and questions >Bobby Steele makes some valid points, but he seems to contradict himself >a lot. He thinks Jerry is a money grubber and yet he admits to wanting >to get the band together for a final money making retirement tour ala the >Who. I've never denied wanting to make money from my music. Beleive it or not, Punk Rock, as well as Rock'nroll has always been looked upon as the best way for a "poor boy" to get out of the slum. Like THE STONES said "what can a poor boy do, except sing for a Rockn'roll band?' There's nothing wrong with making an 'honest buck', but you don't make an honest buck by not giving everybody their fair share. > On his first posting, he pretty much expresses disdain for the >current Misfits and everything they are doing. On his second posting he >claims that he wants to be friends with them. There is obviously more to >this story than any of the Misfits past or present are saying. I'd like >to see Jerry and Doyle address these issues also. Exactly. There are a lot of things that I'm trying to figure out myself. By doing this, I'm hoping that I can get these guys to start talking with me - and showing me the paperwork, so I can see what really went down. >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:33:06 -0500 >To: She >From: Crimson Ghost >Subject: msg from Jerry / Bobby Steele > >Last week Bobby Steele wrote a considerable amount here's my response: > >Bobby, > >Since you are new to this list I'll introduce myself, I'm the Crimson Ghost >call me Jim if you like or C.G., as most others do. I always liked your >playing and never had a bad word to say about you until now. I find last >thursday's post made by you to be...well... childish. I'd never argue with >you about things that happened when you were in the band. But I will on >things that I know about. You see I worked for Jerry & Doy's Dad up until >4/95. I saw Jerry everyday and as the head office type person I made sure he >got all his faxes concerning anything. Needless to say alot of information >passed under my eyes. I'm sorry I have to say this in a public forum but you >decided to trash my friends in public. So I'm forced to reciprocate in kind. >There are almost 700 fiends that receive this list and we try not to have >too much bias. This post will attempt to shed some light on what you've >said. I'm not trying to flame you. I'm not trying to flame Jerry either. I'm aware of who you are, and was looking forward to hear from you. Maybe you can help me get to te bottom of this whole "mess". >I've talked to a few other people on this one, so I'm not relying on my own >memory. >To the best my knowledge you were asked if you wanted to partake in the >lawsuit. At the time I guess you thought it was hopeless and declined the >offer. Jerry called me and gave me about ten days to come up with $2,000.00 (my disability was around $5,000.00 a year at the time) and proof of MISFITS items sold in stores up and down the east coast. I was in the middle of signing with a manager, and trying to negotiate a record deal with the American branch of our German label. I explained to Jerry that that was a lot to ask with such a short deadline. I would need more time. I wanted something in writing too. Why should I trust someone who'd screwed me already. He responded "don't say I didn't offer ya". It was a non-offer. It was as much as if he came to me now and said I'll give you your money, but ya gotta blow me for it - and then went around saying 'I offered him his money, and he refused'. So ya see, he never really made me any offer. He could've waived my $2,000.00 (I heard that he waived Jim's, but I don't know if it's true). Hell, he could've loaned me the money, and charged interest - if we won. I knew it was a winnable case. I fuckin' called him, in early '85 about getting together and suing Glenn, but he said he wanted nothing to do with THE MISFITS, and I should forget about it, otherwise I was just letting Glenn control my life. > Well gee guess what, it wasn't so hopeless was it. What makes you >think that you are owed anything that you didn't work for? I remember Frank >& Jerry spred out all over the conference room with literally hundreds of >papers for countless hours searching for anything that would be helpful. I worked - hard - for it. I have stuff that moght've gotten even more, if he'd made a "sincere" effort to help me. Remember, this was a BORN AGAIN christian talking. >Your name was never part of any document, you were never listed as a >plaintiff. I based my suspicion of being a co-plaintiff on a conversation I had with one of the guys in SLAUGHTERED GRACE. "I don't know why your so pissed at Jerry. He's named you along with the rest of the band, in the lawsuit against Glenn". I haven't seen that document yet. We've asked for it, but they keep stalling. Until I see the papers, I have to beleive what Jerry's friend said. He stood no benefit by saying it to me. >When I read your post, having knowledge of the above, Your entire post just >sounded like sour grapes. I couldn't help but think what a baby you sound >like. I really think you should stop using your disability as a crutch. Why >can't you just be Bobby Steele, not Bobby Steele with a disabilty. Stop >feeling sorry for yourself, every interview I've ever read you've always >pointed out that your a cripple, Why? Because I'm poining out the cowardice in their treatment towards a "cripple". I don't use it as a crutch. I've overcome any disability I have. Why the hangup on my disability on your part? I don't use it as an excuse. I carried my own Marshall cabinet at all our gigs. I did most of the roadieing for THE UNDEAD...never complained. I speak of my disability, because I'm proud that I was able to overcome it. It's hard for you to understand if you haven't had a doctor tell you that you'll never walk again. I didn't sit back and feel sorry for myself. I KICKED THAT DEMON IN THE ASS!!! Doesn't Spike Lee point out that he's BLACK. You might not realize it, but cripples were just given the same employment rights protection that blacks were guaranteed in 1962. It's not easy, but I can handle it. When I'm on stage, it doesn't even show. People are usually surprised to see me pick up a cane after our shows. I exercise everyday, and I won't stop until I've acheived everything I want to do. I've gone out with some of the most beautiful girls you'd ever imagine. I've had a life that most of you could only dream of. Just look at my accomplishments. I never complain about my disbility. I just bring it up when someone has a question that pertains to it. Like, 'why do you stay at hotels instead of peoples houses?' It was Jerry who said I was kicked out of THE MISFITS because of my disability - in UGLY THINGS #12. Of course, once I went out and showed that I could kick my way out of a coffin, Jerry shot that down by saying he just made up the coffin story. HE MADE IT UP (CHILLER TEATER #3), so how much other stuff did he make up? I didn't bring up the issue of my disability, in relation to THE MISFITS. >Do you feel that you are so inferior >that the only way you can get attention is by sympathy. Don't be a fool. We >would listen to anything you have to say without having to feel sorry for >you. You also came across sounding like you were begging, I didn't count, >but how many times did you say that you were broke? Are we supposed to feel >sorry for you about this fact too? Get a job. I want no pity. I need no sympathy. Save your tears. Even if Jerry doesn't do the right thing - the decent thing -I'll survive. I think the people that have to try to use My disabilitty to try to dis-credit everything I do are probably threatened by my perseverance. Sorry. >>THE UNDEAD do so well with ACT YOUR RAGE (which was released with >>the $6,000.00 I got from selling my old 'FITS 45's), while KRYST >>the CONQUERROR was a failure despite the limitless wealth that >>Jerry has? > >I can speak for myself only on this but I really think that neither the >Undead, Kryst, Samhain or Danzig even come close to the power & rage of the >nucleus, The Misfits. Yes. The REAL MISFITS. Glenn's MISFITS. You can't really have THE MISFITS without Glenn AND Jerry. That was the nucleus. >As far as Jerry's limitless wealth, this is so >laughable. You are so off base it's not even funny. I think I can speak with >some authority on that matter. It's no body's business what anybody grosses >so let's just say that the Kryst release was done on a typical DIY >shoestring. Unlike you selling you Misfits collection Jerry worked his ass >off in his old man's sweat shop to get that CD out. Kinda sounds like >another band we all know and love, don't it. The scenario of Jerry working >himself ragged so his band can do things is becomming all to familiar. I don't deny Jerry's contribution to THE MISFITS. He worked hard, I'm sure. I can't say how much money he put into it, and I doubt he kept very detailed records, if any at all. I wouldn't take that away from him. I contributed, too. Living in the city, I kept THE MISFITS in the public eye. I was at the clubs every night. When Glenn neede d to get someplace - and Jerry was at work, I drove out and picked Glenn up and drove him where he needed to go. I tipped them off when I heard the DAMNED were coming to NY, and that's why we were able to get on that bill. If it weren't for Jerry, we never would've been able to afford going to England. Hell, he even bought me a STEAK DINNER one night. The bill came to around 50 pounds, I think. HOUSE OF MUSIC is not a low-budget studio. It's one of the best studio's in the country. I recorded at at REEL PLATINUM when I had money. A lot of the AYR tracks were done at the Center For the Media Arts, a recording school -for free. I got to do some work at MEDIA SOUND, a major studio -because I had worked there for several months. I only had to trade the engineer a bass cabinet in exchange for ten-hours in the studio. Jerry has far better funding than me. I knew Jake, too. He was one amazing guy. >As far as the Kryst vocalist issue goes. Any body with half a brain can >listen to the record and hear that it's Jeff Scott Soto. You see Bobby, I >can say that. Unlike Jerry I didn't promise the man that I wouldn't. What's >your point with that comment? If Jerry had an agreement with Jeff, I digress on that comment. I'm here to get at the truth, so if that's the truth; I'm wrong. Ya gotta give me credit for having the balls to do this. Hell, when it's over, I might see that I was wrong. That's what I want/ the truth. >> I won't give out anybody's real names, home addresses or phone >>numbers. I won't give info that might invade other's privacy, but >>I will be truthful as to anything pertaining to my days as a >>MISFIT, things I did - good or bad, right or wrong. The statute of >>limitations is up, so I have no criminal charges to fear. > >Why didn't you just post that in the first place? That would have been >useful information that everybody would have enjoyed reading. Instead you >decided to make slanderous remarks about everybody else. Not only slanderous >but libelous since the internet is viewed by the courts as written >documents. and some of the remarks you've made are not beyond the statute of >limitations. I wouldn't know where to begin. There's a lot that went on, so I figured I'd leave it up to YOU to ask me what you wnted to know. What have I said that was slanderous? Jerry's interviews are still within the statute of limitations too. I've just asked him to end it all, and help to clear my reputation with the people that believe what's in those interviews. He denies everything. Why won't he just say it llike it is? We were a bunch of dumn kids, who did a lot of dumn things; and now we're adults, so let's act like it for awhile. THEN we can be friends. You haven't heard the kind of messages I get at POST MORTEM RECORDS. If You, and Jerry heard some of the shit, it might change your feelings about this. I'll make a copy of that stuff for Jerry, and hopefully he'll understand why I'm doing this. >I have to be honest with you Bobby, I forwarded your post to Jerry & Co. >Needless to say he was not too happy about the things that you said. I was >going to post his reply to this list but I felt it was too harsh. It's >nobody's business. This is between You, Jerry & Glenn, nobody else. Let's >keep it that way. I wanted to, but I was getting no response from Jerry, and I saw the post from Caroline, saying that we all got our money. SO I said I didn't get mine. If Jerry is gonna give me my money, I'm ready to accept it. Is that so hard? I'm not an idiot. I knew this would get back to Jerry. My manager talked to his manager (that's so silly) last Tuesday, I beleive. Kenny was concerned that I was gonna do something that might hurt their European tour. That's not my intention. If he succeeds, great, but if he fails...he can't blame me. I tried to keep it between the three of us, but what can I do when they won't talk to me. I gave Jerry my phone number at CHILLER, I really thought he was gonna give me my cut, but then he said I wasn't entitled to any of the advance money, and won't get paid until after that's paid back. Do you know how many CDs have to be sold before that'll be paid back? So I don't get paid for all those CDs? And he does? >Everybody says your a great guy and all, but you just came across sounding >pathetic. btw: You can get unlimited internet access for only $19.99/month I >guess if you let up on your marijuana habit, as you so graciously informed >us, you just might be able to afford some other things. First of all, I do not have a Marijuana habit. Marijuana has been shown to be the only safe drug there is that can treat the pain and spaciscity associated with the kind of damage I have to my spinal cord (oh there I am whining about being a cripple again). The medical marijuana issue is well-publicised and most doctors do accept its medicinal properties. I smoke all of 3 1/2 grams every two-months. Without it, the pain is something that I wouldn't wish on anyone. >I may not be able to get on irc as much as I usually do in the next few >weeks. I'm doing the roadie gig w/ Buddy Miles & friends. Anybody that needs >to talk to me please do so via email. Fuckin Buddy Miles? Shit! I'll bet he's got some great tales to tell about playing with JIMI HENDRIX. Great gig. Ithink what I'm trying to say, is that If we could all sit down together; we'd see how stupid this whole feud has been. Not one of us knows the whole truth. The way I see it, it could all be one big misunderstanding. Then we can all lok back say "yeah, we were all a bunch of assholes, and laugh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:06:57 -0500 From: achrist@expert.cc.purdue.edu Subject: Bobby, etc Bobby Steele, I would first like to say that I admire you for being the only misfit to actually have the guts to face the fans directly and answer their questions. This is something that very few celebrities will do. Thanks. Now for the questions. First of all, in one of your earlier posts you statede that the reason that you were replaced by doyle was because the band didn't like the fact that you are a cripple. Yet in almost all of the interviews with the other fits' they all say that you were booted because you were always either drunk or high and didn;t even bother to show up to most of the practices, so doyle would fill in for you. Is this all true, and if not than why did the other misfits come up with such a story? Next, on the web page their are pictures of you talking to jerry at the last chiller convention, and the captions underneath them state that you showed up to bury the hatchet between you and jerry and that you two are now pals. Tjis is why I am so suprised at all the smack you talk about jerry. If this isn't why you showed up at the contion then why the heck did you show up? Since you have so much against jerry I want to know how you guys got along at the signing? Finally, I admit that I am an avid smoker of tobacco, but I completely respect your point of view on the matter especially because of your lung problems. I am confused however by some of the staetment you made recently. If cigarrette smoke bothers you so much than why in the hell do you smoke pot? For one thing it should wear out your lungs much more than cigs because you have to wait longer to exhale in order to get a decent buzz! How hypocritical of you bobby, if your lungs fill up with mucus again it seems tbat it will be your own damn fault. Besides, what is worse, lung cancer or the loss of brain cells? I guess that is in the eye of the beholder. Thanks again for taking the time to read and respond to your fans letters, Sincerely, Adam Seven Christensen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:09:52 -0500 From: Chris Hatcher Subject: French Lesson OK, finally my degree in French might come in handy. The "r" sound in French is completely different than in English. Believe me, the French "r" is a real bitch. It took me about a year or so to even come close to pronouncing it. When you pronounce it correctly, it sounds like you're gargling mouthwash. The final r sound of "Delambre" would be pronounced by a French-speaking person, but there would be no vowel to go along with it, which makes it even more difficult. So, having said that, the correct French pronounciation would be "e len de lam br" Note that "h" is silent in French, so just "E" and not "He". The last syllable would be pronounced without a vowel. Now to address the actual question. Glen did exactly what most English-speaking people do when faced with the final "r" sound. He didn't pronounce it at all. As far as I can tell he says "e len de lamb". So, he got the silent "h" right, but not the "r". OK, so thats how the 2 posts I quoted pronouned it, but I just wanted everyone to know that in French, the "r" is not really silent. I'm sure this is a lot more than most of you wanted to know about this thread. LordB > > From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS > > have not written in a while. As long as someone mentioned the lyrics > > to "Return of the Fly," please explain to me how Glenn could possibly > > be saying "Helen Delambre." If my ears our working ok there are only > > four syllables in that part, so it couldnt work. Possibly "Delambre" > > like Del-am-ba-ra but even that sounds wrong to me when I listen to it. > > It's French. You don't say crescent "Cres-Kent" do you? > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Lots o' shit > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:20:15 -0700 (MST) > From: Richard Duran > i'm sure it's sung as is. if you look at the other names mentioned: > francois and cecille, you get the idea that the people are of french > descent (forgive me, it's been ages since i've seen the original fly > movies). given that, i'd always assumed that helen delambre was > pronounced he-len de-lamb. > > any other ideas? > ------------------------------ From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:08:37 GMT Subject: 1st gig of Euro-tour! No doubt there's gonna be as many posts about the tour as there were regarding the box-set, but hopefully this'll be the first! The Misfits played the first date of their European tour right here in Edinburgh last night (Tues.12th March) and it was great! I must admit I had my doubts about the band reforming, particularly without Danzig (and no matter how much you argue, you can't take away the fact that HE WROTE THE SONGS that we all know and love), thinking that it was a sad case of cashing in. But, reading the Bible has given me a new perspective on it all, and last nights gig definitely proved that Jerry and Doyle have the right (not just legally!) to use the Misfits name. The band kicked off with Halloween, which was a fucking great start. Jerry and Doyle didn't look a day older than they did in the early 80's, in fact the whole thing was like a timewarp back to those days, with Michale Graves looking very much like Danzig before he went for the bouncer look(!). Dr. CHUD couldn't be seen due to the gigantic drum kit he was using...the toms were nearly as big as most bass drums, and had big spikes coming out of them (must be great fun loading them up!). This is what we want from the= Misfits!! The sound for the whole night was really muddy, again just like the old days. I used to think it was just dodgy recordings of the live stuff...now I know that that's what they actually sounded like! A barrage of noise, with hardly a break between the songs before it was off into the next classic. So, what was the set you ask? Well, I can't remember exactly (stereotypical Scottish person =3D drinking lots) but I'd be hard pushed to think of= anything they DIDN'T play! Lots of stuff from every period, with the Static Age songs finally getting the treatment they deserve..."Come Back", "Hybrid Moments", "Angelfuck", "Hollywood Babylon" etc. Great stuff each and every one. "Earth AD" was the one I thought they were neglecting, but this was remedied in the encore with about 4 or 5 songs from it being blasted out (don't ask which ones...I didn't have a fucking notebook with me!) . Oh yeah, the new songs...only two were aired, one of which was really short, and with the poor sound it was kinda difficult working out exactly what they were like. One thing's for sure, I couldn't hear anything approaching the dreaded heavy metal that I'd thought they might slip into. But as I say, real judgment will have to be reserved 'til I hear a decent quality recording of them. They did have that Misfits feel about them though. This is what the band has to achieve...they can only rely on the back-catalogue for so long, they need to prove they can write new material that's as strong as the old stuff, or the whole thing will just become pointless. Let's hope they can do it... For the first gig of a tour the band were on top form, really tight, and the energy level went off the scale! They put one fuck of a lot into gigs, with Jerry being much more of the focal point than before. Obviously Michale will become more confident as the tour goes on, but he did seem to be overshadowed by Doyle and Jerry. Taking the place of Danzig is a tough job, so good luck to the guy! I don't envy him!=20 The whole attitude of the band was great...letting people have their moment of glory on the stage and even encouraging them to take over the mic! They seem to be really enjoying the adulation they've waited so long to receive...and rightly so. It's been a long time coming... All in all the band played for something like 80mins, never letting up, and scarcely stopping for breath between songs. And after all that they took the time to come out and talk to fans for about 20mins, having time for everybody, and generally being really cool people! Full marks all round!! The gig was videoed by a friend of mine (using 2 cameras), and I think there's a chance of it getting an official release (the same guy's done stuff for GBH, Meteors, NoMeansNo, New Bomb Turks etc), so that's something to look forward to. The band have the tapes at the moment to see if they like them...keep your fingers crossed. So, the Misfits finally played Edinburgh. I never thought I'd see the day. It's been 15 years since I first encountered the Misfits (and just in case you think I'm trying to impress everyone here, my first reaction was "they look more like rockabilly's than punks"! This was 1981 remember, "Punks Not Dead" and all that stuff!!). I had my doubts, and I'm glad to say I WAS WRONG. The Misfits were fucking amazing! **As a small P.S....the promoter apparently lost quite a bit of money on the gig, with the band wanting =A32000 ($3000). That is a lot of money, totally out of reach of any small "doing it 'cos they're into it" type promoters. The only people that can guarantee that sort of amount are the businesmen who are only interested in the cash. Needless to say, the promoter of this gig gets no sympathy from me if he's lost out. It cost =A310 on the door (around $15), which is VERY expensive for a gig in a fairly small place, and will've put a lot of people off going. A lot of people were wary (like myself) of the Misfits without Danzig, so wouldn't take the chance on paying =A310...it's just too fucking much. Also, the promotion was abysmal, with= only a handful of posters round town, and even those were crap. Just the logo on a poster advertising about 6 gigs in the same place...hardly eye-catching. Everyone at the gig loved it, but I can't see any promoter willing to pay out =A32000 again...so Jerry, you'll get an ever better gig in Edinburgh= next time, but drop the price a little please! Thanks for your indulgence. Hope you can all catch the band for yourselves (even those of you in Sweden!!).=20 GINGOBLIN xxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:35:07 -0500 (EST) From: "William P. Musso" Subject: Misfits/DOA shows I'm really glad to hear that the shows are going to be 10-12 dollars. After hearing how much the 7" was going to cost, I was wondering if the ticket prices were going to be inflated. This restores some of my faith in the intentions of the current `Fits lineup. The rest remains to be seen. I can't wait to hear the new songs! I'm also happier than a maggot in the eye of death over the fact that the Misfits are playing with DOA! DOA is also one of my favorite bands of all time! Hoping to see some of you in Toronto! --Psycho Billy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:50:46 -0500 From: She Subject: Stuff Hey Fiends, this was just suggested to me - What do you think of changing the Bible schedule so that it comes out 3 times a week. that way the issues won't be so large... Any opinions? Also fiends, I don't want to sound mean, but some of you REALLY should start looking to the web page for some of your answers to questions. I get about 70 messages a day and a lot of them are just simple questions that I can respond to in about 30 seconds, whereas others may take a few minutes. that's a lot of my time.... Also, I've been listening to some of the new Misfits songs and I think you're all going to like "mars Attacks"..... mark ------------------------------ From: Pudas13@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:31:15 -0500 Subject: !!!!!!!!Asshole To Funk Master W.E.T. FUCK YOU!!!!! FUCK YOU!!!!! etc.... ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Stop it now Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:36:25 -0500 (EST) The bible has been going pretty good lately as far as people staying on the subject, with a few exceptions. I say the following not to start a fight but to make a plea. Wes Thomas, please think before you post! First you strted up a fight because you claim to be a " real " misfit. Then you say that you have inside info. that glenn danzig will be endorsing pepsi products ( give me a goddamn break! ) None of that was too bad, just a little annoying, but then you wrote in trying to act like a ganster rapper and telling us all how you like to analy rape woman. You sound like you are a sexual deviate or something. here are a few suggestions for you wes thomas: 1) Grow up! 2) Don't make up any more incredibally unbelievable stories and expect us to believe them. 3) Quit the bible and join some child molesters news group. 4) If all else fails--Kill Yourself. Sincerely, Adam Seven Christensen G ------------------------------ From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCONO" Subject: Picks?????? Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 15:46:00 PST Fellow Fiends, Has anyone who donated to the Jaime fund received a pick (as promised) yet? Or even heard anything more on the subject? I've been talking with Adam Seven Christensen, and neither of us have any info. on the subject or a pick for that matter. I may sound selfish, but a promise is a promise. Later - Chris ------------------------------ From: The Mocellas Subject: the 'fits in philly Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:33:32 -0500 what a great fucking day....i got my tickets to see the misfits when they come to philly! i can't beleive it. finally, my chance to see THE band. if any bible members live in/around philadelphia, write me, maybe we can meet at the show. about this whole thing with bobby.....it just seems a bit childish. it's our (the fiends) chance to communicate freely with a member of the band, lets take advantage of it and have a good time. as for the money issue-it really is not something that should be presented in a public forum...it really is none of our business. i salute bobby for having the balls to come on and speak with us. i just hope this isn't his way of getting revenge on past grievances. well, this is certainly an exciting time. if any one wants a fiend pen pal, i love getting mail. long live the 'fits...........xoxox, rAtboy ------------------------------ From: Bruce Lee Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:38:35 -5 Subject: Devil's Plaything... Has anyone actually looked at their CD player when they listen to "Devil's Plaything" (Danzig II)... that neat slidey part that starts in the middle of the song after a short pause starts at 1 minute and 38 seconds... your CD player says 138 when it starts!!! Coincidence?!?! I think not! Mark. ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:09:48 -0500 Subject: 3 Hits From Hell & Black Light hey again! a couple q's and comments SNOOK-I WILL BUY THE 3 HITS 7" & OR THE HALLOWEEN 7" JUST TELL ME HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANT FOR IT AND I'LL SEND YOU THE MOOLAH THAT was my main concern on the collection II it says music compiled by danzig. does that mean jerry & the other misfits had nothing to do w/ the release of Collection II? that bites PLEASE POST YOUR ANSWER IN THE NEXT BIBLE(REFERRING TO SNOOK) ALSO, ANYONE WHOSE GOING TO THE EAST COAST MISFITS CONCERT PLEASE BUY A COPY OF THE "BLACK LIGHT" 7" FOR ME(I LIVE IN ILLINOIS, NOWHERE NEAR A CONCERT) I WILL EVEN GIVE THE PERSON 5 BUCKS MORE THAN THEY WANT($15) TO THE PERSON WHO BUYS A COPY FOR ME, MAYBE MORE(JUST TO SHOW MY APPRECIATION). THANK YOU all AND A EXTRA SPECIAL THANKS TO BOBBY STEEL FOR HIS INSIGHT ON THE BIBLE! UNTIL NEXT BIBLE, CHRIS-KRUSTY704 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:04:49 +0100 From: Franz Ardito Subject: I got something to ask.. hello fiends, I have a cheap question for you: is there any Misfits (or Danzig) memorabilia in any of the Hard Rock Cafes around the planet? It may be a stupid question but I was curious.. BTW, if anybody cares I finally got my "Holy Box" two days ago:...not bad...really not bad..:) have a nice day Franz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:27:49 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Re: Bobby Steele This is in response to Bobby Steele's rebuttal to my criticisms of his last post to the Bible. I just wanna say first off though, that obviously I have no authority or inside information in any of these matters and really none of this is any of my business other than that Bobby seems to be soliciting opinions. I don't really enjoy reading personal feuds on the Internet myself, and if you feel like that's all this is feel free to tell me to just shut up. However, I would disagree that this is really a personal thing, because I don't know Bobby personally and I'm not in the Misfits, so I don't really have any reason to argue other than that I do feel that a lot of this comes down to personal conflicts and name-calling between past members of the band. So, it seems to me that what Bobby says does have some bearing on the current situation of the Misfits, and if you're interested in that then I think it's only fair to let Bobby have his say, but he's going to have to deal with what other members of the mailing list have to say as well. >Hey, Glenn is basically a nice guy, and I think You're the first person >I've seen who says so. What gets me is that you seem to admire him for a >lot of the wrong reasons. "Admire" is a little too strong a word. Maybe when I was younger and before the business aspects of the Misfits/Samhain/Danzig came out I had more admiration for him. These days all I can really say is that he seems to share a lot of common interests with me and that I respect him insofar as he has the balls to get where he wants to go with his life, and has generally been successful. I can't say I like the way he goes about it, especially in regards to how he treats the people who have helped him get there. I agree with your sentiment about "be careful how you treat people you meet on the way up"... I suspect Glenn may yet have to face the music for some of his decisions. But maybe it's better for his personality if in future he keeps all his business (music etc.) matters just that -- strictly business -- and keeps friendships out of it. He certainly seems to have worked all his friends out of his business life so far. > How would you feel if he put a gun to your head, >took your money and raped your girlfriend. Would that be acceptable to >you? Again, you show a real talent for slanderous and inflammatory statements. >I'm gonna try to handle this diplomatically. If Jerry is such a nice and >generous guy, I don't understand why he didn't help Jaime out with the >$150.00 he needed to get to NYC, after helping Jerry set up the whole MISFITS >DINNER. Why are the ticket prices so high? And why doesn't the NICE GUY >pay me. He keeps saying he's gonna do it, but why the stalling? OK, some background: I am the guy who drew the "Shocking Return of the Misfits" flyers which by now should be on every telephone pole and construction site in Europe, and which will probably be seen on T-shirts and posters later this year for the U.S. leg of the tour. After many months of hearing about the Misfits, Jerry and Doyle's efforts to get the band back together, vs. Glenn's statements about his old friends and so forth, I decided that I supported what Jerry was doing. So, I drew up that artwork and sent it to him. Just like that. When they got it, Jerry and Michale called me up and said how great they thought it was, and I spoke to Ken about whether or not they could use it for something. What I said was this: feel free, I would be flattered. When I was in high school I listened to the Misfits non stop, I wore T-shirts everywhere, painted Crimson Ghosts on every leather jacket I owned, drew zombies with devilocks on every piece of binder paper you shoved in front of me, and if Jerry never saw a dime from that then here's my contribution. (Sorry Bobby, my favorite album was "Walk Among Us".) I gave the Misfits the copyright on the artwork and carte blanche to use it in any way they see fit. I said that if my artwork made them rich I'd appreciate a piece of it, but otherwise I really wasn't all that concerned about payment for it. I have a decent-paying job, and doing the artwork cost me next to nothing. So, given that I left myself wide open to be ripped off, what did the villainous Jerry Only do to take advantage of the situation? He sent me via UPS a big ol' box of Misfits stuff -- posters, T-shirts, and assorted Fiend Club merchandise, a deluxe set of Pro Edge knives for use in my artwork, a promo sampler CD from the box set, etc. And a letter stating that he'd be sure and do the "righteous thing" by cutting me in on whatever they might make from T-shirt sales or whatever. Have I ACTUALLY gotten any other money out of it since? Nope, not so far at least. But it's sure curious behavior on the corrupt and money-grubbing Jerry's behalf, considering I didn't ask for anything at all. And every time I have been in contact with Ken or Jerry about doing more artwork, the first thing out of their mouths other than "Sounds great!" is "How do you want to get paid for it, do you want us to buy the artwork off you or do you want a piece of it, or what?" As far as I can see, ripping people off -- if those people have an honest claim to some compensation -- is the last thing on their minds. >It's good you read my bio. I don't think anyone who's seen or heard THE >UNDEAD would call it a two-bit punk outfit. I do damn good - considering >my limited resources. And I never COMPLAINED. I'd hate to see how you would >'ve handled the same situation. If you read the bio more carefully, you'd >see that the writer is talking about my ability to survive. Maybe Jerry >and Doyle worked the machine shop 'cause they were sick of the music biz. >Jerry did denounce THE MISFITS at least at one point that I know of. There's >nothing wrong with being rich. And there's nothing wrong with wanting >what's yours either. While they were working at the machine shop - to >make money - I was still making music, which I love. You wouldn't call it "complaining" when every other statement out of your mouth is about "your limited resources" and how broke you are? You seem determined every chance you get to make a case for why you deserve a hand-out. My recommendation is maybe to try working a "day job" for a while... it might teach you something about the way the world works. (Oo, that wasn't very punk rock of me was it? Sorry everybody.) > The money issue >is secondary, but what kind of person would I be if I didn't just try to >get what I'm entitled to. Would you just sit back if your boss didn't pay >you what he promised you, for the work you did. You'd be a wimp not to >put up some kind of fight. "The money issue is secondary"... you do seem somewhat contradictory. But FYI, yes, as a freelancer I am currently having problems of exactly that nature with my employer, but I am handling it diplomatically through proper channels rather than dragging my affairs all over my workplace. >Did you make the same criticism of Jerry when he was 'whining' about not >getting paid by Glenn? Honestly? Yes. Until I heard Jerry's side of the story. I buy his perspective a lot more than I buy yours, I'm sorry to say. >Well, I am broke, but there isn't anything that can keep me down. Certainly >not your verbal attacks! I fell between the cars of a moving subway train >and came out of it without a scratch - and just under $15,000.00 that >helped keep THE UNDEAD going for another two-years, and helped me to >get some more recording gear. I'm sorry to hear about the subway, but this is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. I'm not saying you weren't entitled to that settlement, but wouldn't you be able to look yourself in the mirror a lot easier if you had EARNED that money to keep the band going? I mean seriously, to call that an achievement certainly seems like taking the low road to me. It seems to me that you sell yourself short again and again in your life, and then you want other people to take the blame for it. You claim you'll "always scrape by somehow" but honestly I don't think you really believe it. But hey I'm no shrink. > Out of curiosity, what exactly do you do? It's a lot easier to talk >with someone if you know a little bit about them. I'm 23 as of March 16th, and I am the systems/network administrator at Big Top Productions, a multimedia/ digital entertainment company based in San Francisco. We have several children-oriented "edutainment" CD-ROM titles on the market, but currently we're working on pioneering new ways of bringing people fully animated interactive entertainment over the World Wide Web. And before you start drawing any parallels, NO -- I did not have the advantage of my parents paying for a big college education etc. I bailed out of the 12th grade when I was 17, played around with community college a but but then decided college wasn't for me, and spent the next year or two working various jobs in retail and so forth, working my way up to where I could offer my skills for this position. The difference between me and most people is that while most people were out partying and shooting crank and whatever, I was the weird kid with a mohawk who sat in his room with a Misfits record playing, teaching himself C programming and UNIX on an obsolete IBM XT computer (the same one that's on my desk at home 10 years later). When I wasn't doing that, I was doing artwork, and I still plan to break away from computers and go back to my first love, probably doing art for comic books... proving, for all you punkers out there, that I'm not on this earth for money either. And what is more, while most people saw their jobs as ways to get their parents off their back and were spending all their time figuring out ways to slack off, I straightened myself up and decided that if I was going to work for somebody, I was going to do it right. I've never fucked over my employer just like I would never fuck over my friends, and in return I know I can rightfully expect fair and equitable treatment. I have had disagreements with people in business before, but when I needed to straighten those differences out it has always been done with respect and through the proper business channels. And Bobby, this is just the perspective I'm coming from on "The Bobby Issue". I just feel that you've handled this whole situation since the time you left the Misfits very childishly. I think the less confrontational and inflammatory you try to be, the more you'll notice that people seem to want to pay more attention to you. Nobody wants to hear a sob story, especially when at the same time you're accusing them of everything from fraud, to drawing parallels between how you've been treated to "holding a gun to your head and raping your girlfriend", etc. Again, I CAN NOT speak to whether you are legally owed royalty payment on new Misfits reissues, etc. Obviously you DID play on a good selection of those tracks and nobody is going to take that away from you. But you're not going to make (back) any friends if you insist on taking this attitude you have. -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@sentient.com) San Francisco, California, USA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 22:27:02 EST From: Ken Graf Subject: stuff Hey fiends! Well, just wanted to say that I stand my ground on what I said concerning Bobby Steele's posts. Bobby, it's cool to answer questions and shit but personal battles should not be started here. In no way am I jumping on some kind of "let's get Bobby"bandwagon. If you saw my first post last issue concerning the matter, you'd see what I mean. I have a great deal of respect for you and your work, but like I said before, let's not turn this into an "undead vs. misfits" battle zone. I agree with pretty much everything Crimson Ghost said in the last bible, he's just a little more straight-forward and blunt than I am. OK, enough babbling about that. As far as Cybrpunk is concerned, I think you got what was coming to you. Tuesday night, you were busting on Splitter and Mr. Manson, and you got ragged on for it with a stern warning. Alright, everything was thought to be cool. The guys (and girls) on IRC are always willing to allow some fuck ups for newbies. I have seen this being fairly new myself. However, I think you crossed the line when you refused to give ops to CG, who out of respect and seniority deserve them long before you, nothing personal, I wouldn't have the right to keep ops either. However, I wouldn't be a jerk to a respected individual on the channel. That's where I think you fucked up. Hey, the best thing I can tell ya to do is to look throgh the bible for people you may have pissed off on IRC, get their addresses, and personally write to them saying why you should be allowed back on the channel. Give it a shot. Just tryin to help. Anyway, I'll be on break next week so I won't be around to bug you all. HA! I'll skim through the bibles the week after for any responses to this. Sorry for the long post. See Ya! --Lord Kenatos ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:59:48 -0500 Subject: Re: The next set I never expected such a response. I might have to take a day or two off. My fingers are getting stiff. How the hell do secretaries do this day after day? Anyone have any ideas? There's a lot more support than I'd expected. _______________________________ >From: Baggio Steve > >HEY BOBBY STEELE, > Yeah I'm from Chicago, and you were suppose to play at the >fireside bowling alley, but you canceled. Are you gonna reschedule a >show? Cause if you do, there's a whole bunch of dudes that wanna party >with you man! > -STEVE That show was never booked in the first place. My friend Eddie, from THE MIGRAINES was trying to help me set up a tour last summer. He told all the clubs he was talking with that it was all very tentative, and would only happen if we were able to get enough bookings to cover all the costs. They were all instructed on our booking policy - no advertising until I have a signed contract in my hands. There's always gonna be at least one misunderstanding in the course of doing these things, and as soon as I was told that FIRESIDE was advertising the show, I called them and asked that the as be pulled until things were confirmed. Now, with management, things should run more smoothly. I sure hope we can play Chicago this year. I appreciate the "party" offer, but I don't do that anymore. I have to be in shape to give the next night's audience my best possible show, and ya just can't do that when you're partying. > >From: "Jake Starr/ADAM WEST" > >hey bobby! i recently purchased a "horror business" alternate sleeve from >you >and i'm happier than shit on a stick. what i wanna know is the story with >its >rejection as the final sleeve and how many were actually destroyed and/or >grabbed by you and barry henssler. the full story... can ya dig it? I don't know how many Barry got. I was given about 1,000 to destroy. As I was cutting them up, it hit me that these could be an ultimate collectors item in the future, so I saved about 20 - 30. The rest were cut in half and used as scrap paper before I realized it. As YOU can see, the picture on the back looked smudged. It was a poor reproduction. Glenn whipped up the new sleeve, and that's the story. >_______________________________________ > >From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:56:20 EDT > >Bobby-would you mind if my band covered "Put Your Clothes Back On"? >we are considering it.....BTW its great to be able to contact >you on a regular basis, please keep your account!!!! > >meet up!!! > >later >love >goatboy- Do it!!! Send me a copy or two when it's done. My Address is: POST MORTEM RECORDS P.O. BOX 358 NEW MILFORD, NJ 07646 ________________________________________________________________ >From: achrist@expert.cc.purdue.edu >Bobby Steele, > >I would first like to say that I admire you for being the only misfit >to actually have the guts to face the fans directly and answer their >questions. This is something that very few celebrities will do. >Thanks. >Now for the questions. >First of all, in one of your earlier posts you statede that the reason that >you were replaced by doyle was because the band didn't like the fact that >a cripple. Jerry said that, in UGLY THINGS #12. He then admitted it was a lie, in CHILLER THEATER #3. I was a cripple when they took me. If they didn't like that fact, they never would've taken me in the first place. > Yet in almost all of the interviews with the other fits' they >all say that you were booted because you were always either drunk or high >didn;t even bother to show up to most of the practices, so doyle >would fill in for you. Is this all true, and if not than why did the >other misfits come up with such a story? PRIDE, maybe? I really don't know. I've been told it was because Doyle was a better guitarist, then that it was the image thing, which I accepted. We were all drunk/stoned/late at one time or another. Glenn was practically GLUED to BACCARDI 151, and coke. When we did HORROR BUSINESS they were late. If I missed a practice, it was because Jerry told me there was no practice, as I've mentioned in a previous posting. There were plenty of times when just me an Jerry practiced. There were times when Doyle would come out and play guitar, and I'd play the drums (yecch!) We had fun, and when all the problems are worked out, that's the stuff I'll remember. >Next, on the web page their are pictures of you talking to jerry at the >last chiller convention, and the captions underneath them state that you >showed up to bury the hatchet between you and jerry and that you two are now >pals. Tjis is why I am so suprised at all the smack you talk about jerry. >If this isn't why you showed up at the contion then why the heck did you >show up? I went to CHILLER in the hopes that things would be cool, but when Jerry told me that I wasn't gonna get any of the advance money, after CAROLINE had said that Jerry assured them that he'd give me my cut, I saw that it was gonna take some time to iron this out. Through my manager, I tried communicating with Jerry and his lawyer. They only returned one or two calls, and ignored all our others, when we said we wanted to get together to discuss which songs I actually played on as opposed to what they said I was on. On COLLECTION II, Jerry initially said I was on two songs. When I got the CD, I spotted a possible 5-songs. When that was pointed out, Jerry's lawyer said that Jerry told him I was only on ONE. He doesn't seem to want to discuss it, or let me point out why I believe it's my guitar there. NO NEGOTIATIONS!!! > Since you have so much against jerry I want to know how you guys >got along at the signing? We were cool. There were five-MISFITS between us. I get along great with most of the other guys. CHUD's cool. He asked me to autograph a picture he took of me at CHILLER. I have no problem with the other guys - they're not in control of my money. >Finally, I admit that I am an avid smoker of tobacco, but I completely >respect your point of view on the matter especially because of your >lung problems. I am confused however by some of the staetment you made >recently. If cigarrette smoke bothers you so much than why in the hell >do you smoke pot? For one thing it should wear out your lungs much >more than cigs because you have to wait longer to exhale in order >to get a decent buzz! How hypocritical of you bobby, if your >lungs fill up with mucus again it seems tbat it will be your own damn fault. AND that choice will then be mine. Have you noticed that cigarettes and pot smell different? That's due to different chemical structures, thus different effect. It's been proven that secondhand smoke is more dangerous than the actual smoke you inhale, so that's the only part of the cigarette I get. I don't go into environments that have pot smoke 'so thick, you can cut it with a knife', either 'cause it would probably irritate me as much as the tobacco smoke. When I smoke pot; it's to releive the pain from my spinal injuries. If I don't have this relief, I don't sleep, which wipes out my voice, and resistance to illness. So, you see, even though it sounds a bit hippocritical, I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. In regards to my health, getting my sleep is the lesser of the two evils. Actually, I prefer the CLINTON method...COOKIES...no smoke, no inhale. As far as brain cells; have you ever tried to function after a week of no sleep? If there was a better way, I'd do it. I was given all kinds of pain killers and muscle relaxers, but they left me stoned 24 hours a day, and I couldn't think right. I still had the spasms - which are more like a 'charlie horse' that can last for several minutes at a time - so I kept looking for a better treatment. I had written off drugs for a year or two when all this hit me. One day, I was visiting a friend, and he lit up a joint - so I took a hit. When I got home, I realized that there was no pain. Until then, I was considering suicide to get away from the pain. (I can see the email on that one) >Besides, what is worse, lung cancer or the loss of brain cells? I guess >is in the eye of the beholder. We lose brain cells every day without dying, and if you lose the use of your brain, you don't know it, so it doesn't bother you. Lung cancer is a painful, slow death. >From: Krusty704@aol.com >Subject: stuff galore & more > >howdy! >first off, i'm looking for the following records, in whatever print >please contact me if you are willing to sell any of these Sorry. I'm sold out. I might have a copy of THREE HITS that DAVE STREET asked me to sell for him. I think the sleeve had some water damage. I'll have to look. > >this is a question for bobby steele, or for mark: what is the reason there >no pictures of you in the box set? I keep asking that question, myself. Tom, at CAROLINE says Jerry didn't give him any pictures with me in them. If you look on the first page, you can see my hand. If you want the real answer, ask Jerry. I have plenty of pictures, and Jerry has had my phone number for 18 years, so he could've called me. Is it any wonder that I'm having a hard time trusting them? >and could you(bobby) send me a catalog of your stuff? >thanks >send it to chris blair 16 chatsford court bloomington, IL, 61704 Our catalog is listed somewhere in THE BIBLE. (Mark??) I've gotten some responses to it, but I'll mail ya one in case you're as new to this as I am. >____________________________________________________ > >From: amcdermo@interlog.com (Fiend138) > >To Bobby: > > I too have a handicap. I have never met any member of the Misfits, >atleast till the MAY 10 show!!!(btw- that is the handicap) I have talked to >Jerry a couple times about the Toronto show and about the boxset. I have >never had the opprotunity to converse with Glenn so I can only judge is >image from articles and second Hand accounts. From what I have seen Glenn is >an exceptional singer/songwriter. Glenn also likes to be known for his >current musical jobs not from his past. I think he's also sick of being cought in his contradictions...that's when he stopped talking. > What do I know about you. In the bible posts you have sent I have >found out alot about you. But again I have never met you in person. What I >have seen is someone who is bitter about being expunged from a successful >musical group. I'm only bitter about the lies, and not being paid. Glenn can do what he wants with his band. >You are alos a person who likes to be a victim. This is >displayed with 2 examples: Being a cripple & being poor. As for being a >cripple you are what you let yourself be. If you let it be an excuse than >that is what it/you will be. If you are happy with that, then you are happy. I don't like to be a victim, that's why I'm fighting for what I beleive in. A victim says "I've been fucked, now I'll go sit in a corner and cry. I'm out here fighting for what is mine. I won't give up until I win...and somehow I will. The cripple issue was Jerry's lame (pun intended) excuse for firing me. I've never given in on being a cripple, and after 27 years of this, I still exercise almost daily, so that, maybe one day I won't even need my cane. I've gotten up to doing 45-50 pushups. have benched 150lbs,and 18-20 chinups. I do squats, to strengthen my upper legs and Gluts. Do I accept being a cripple? I use my ABILITY to try to help others not as fortunate as me. Despite it sounding bad, I'm thankful that I can still walk. I walk an average of 5-miles a day. I rarely take public transportation, because I can get there faster by walking (doesn't say much for public transportation). I've always defied my disability. I never use it as an excuse, Jerry did that (UT #12). I just state that fact, to give you the insight into my life. >As for being poor: Get a job! This sounds aggressive but it is true. If you >can work you will not be poor. If you cannot work why are you not on >compensation? I am on compensation. I get $515.00 a month from social security. I work. I work very hard at my career. The money sux, but I'm happy. I still have the right to the money that I worked hard for with the MISFITS. > > As for Jerry being in it for the money. This is none our business. It should be, when he claims he's not in it for the money. There's nothing wrong with being in it for the money, just don't lie to your fans about it. Any musician that says they're not in it for the money is kidding you. Otherwise they'd play for free. >think you lowered yourself when you needed to win support by saying that you >are owed money. Like the court transcripts the money distribution is not any >of the fans business. I wasn't the one who initially posted the money distribution. I'm RESPONDING to the claims that "everybody got paid". I didn't, and I doubt that Joey got paid. > Therefore your posts about it have made you look like >the fool. Some people may think that, but I know I'm not a fool. The fools were the ones who agreed to sell their shares. >Also by posting about money it looks like you are simply using us to get to >Jerry. It makes you look like a child. I AM doing this to try to get Jerry to sit down and discuss this. I gave him four-months to talk about it, but he just kept stalling. This was my next alternative, and it may be working. How much time should I give him, when evryone else has been paid? > I would like to finish saying That I have never met you or Glenn. >The opinions I have expressed are considered from what you have posted and >interviews. I hope this clarifies what you thought. >Fiend 138 >Toronto Ontario Canada >#misfits Operator I hope this cleared up some of your questions. Thanks >______________________________________________________ > >From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) >Subject: send to bobby > >Bobby, > It is great to see you on the bible. I dont really have any >questions for you, I would just like to show some appreciation for your >music. I have allot of admiration for you, the courage and strength you >have every day to "Never say die". Gee. And most people call it "whining" I glad you get the point. > The Misfits trashed you an awful lot >and that was wrong, now there are people on this list who do the same just >because of what they heard on a bootleg. I have tried over and over to get >people to listen to the undead. Usaully I make a tape and send it to them >and they come around. I think that in the misfits you were to confinded, I >mean Glenn held you back. To a degree, you're right, but playing in THE MISFITS helped me to expand my style. Glenn just gave me ONE TAKE at every session, except the SONGSHOP session - which I was paying for - where I had the chance to really play the stuff without him watching the clock. Like Glenn and Jerry said, This was when we were at our best. Just listen to the CD!!! Some of my best supporters are the people that originally had the harshest criticism for me. Once they met me, they realized that their preconceptions of who Bobby Steele really is were completely wrong. Tha'ts one reason why I'm here. > You are a great guitarist, and the Undead is >where you shine. Not the songs you played on were bad in the misfits, they >were great. But You can hear that you are not comfortable. And all the >trash people talk about you is bullshit, the only reason you get that is >because you did somthing with yourself after the misfits. Possibly. You're very perceptive. I never thought that came across on the records so well. Has anybody else made that observation? > I think the Undead is a great band, and Im sure that what ever you >do will be great. Because your desire and ambition shows through in your >music. That is all I can think of now. >"Never Say Die" >Danny Rodrigues (D-Rod) >_________________________________________________________________ > >From: "a.proctor" > >O, and Bobby, all the fiends want to hear more about you. That is >YOU and less of what you have to say about Jerry and Doyle. WE love >what you did in the' fits, and want to hear all about it. But WE can >make up our own mind about Jerry and Doyle's revival of the > band we love. And you'll have your chance. I just meant that it won't really be THE MISFITS, because they even play the old songs differently. As long as you're not expecting the same ,punk, band, you probably won't be dissapointed. > And as for this money crap: I don't give a shit. If it was your money, you would. >Get a lawyer and sue, the Bible is not the place for the slander of >the band we're here to elevate and appreciate. I would personally >like to hear a brief history of your time with the 'fits, ect. ect. A brief history would be difficult. I will rey to outline things in a future page, but that might have to wait, because there was so much ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Bible, #152 Re: Misfits Bible, #152 Box Set Uneasy Listening MORE You and Me Jon Michaels on IRC!! ... Live a quicky Leicester 3/14/96 Bradford 3/15/96 UK honours list Jon Michaels in IRC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:25:31 -0500 From: Jaid Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #151 I really hate to bring this post back to print...... >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:48:18 -0500 (EST) >From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #150 > > > Funk Master W.E.T. in the motherfucking house my biiaatches. So >here's the little piece of heat I got burning the top of my damn skull. >When your cock is as fuckin' huge as mine how do you get in a whores >ass without making the fucker spurt blood like some kind of stuck pig? >Fuck, Fuck, Fucking dat ass. What do you ignorant bastards think of that >whole situation in Tiawan? That's right, I BE A MAN OF THE WORLD! I know >that you all fear me. I can tell by all the fucking typo's. If you flame >me I'll send your "punks" adresses to one hundred different religious >foundations with a request to save your souls on it. They'll never let >up.Never. > >Wes "I LOVE JAID" Thomas What was the point here? It isnt related to the Misfits or related bands.It contains no interesting information(unless anyone here cares what a "man of the world" you are). what charm school did you attend? I'm really not trying to flame you, I just dont see the point of your post. Was it supposed to be funny? I missed your humor the first time around. Sorry, it just seemed like a waste of space. I am sure that i am the only one who feels this way.Oh, and by the way, I hate to let you down but I think a "worldly" kind of guy like you is just..... how shall i say it ? Hmmm... to put it lightly, not my type.I don't know you and i don't think I want to, why don't you try to leave my name out of your sig.Grow up or go away, dont bother us with your idle, uncreative threats. ------------------------------ Subject: Un-Released Danzig Songs From: Chris Myers Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 21:14:44 AST I really wish Danzig would make an Album of his "lost" and un-released songs. In the Misfits Book there are about 7 songs there. Plus when I called the Danzig Hotline, I think Friday, there was a song on there by the name of "Cold, Cold Rain". That song was really cool, kinda (to me) sounded like Blood and Tears. Anyways, so there you have about 8 songs that could make one kick ass EP. Kid Chrs PS:In Social Sciences today for homework, we have to answer questions on Page 138. ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: assorted things Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:26:15 -0500 (EST) well first mark if you'd have looked i sent both messages, the one to you, and the one to the bible at the same time, so i didn't know yet. i take back any words i said about jerry, as it appears the detroit date is being changed. if it isn't then well i'll curse him all the way to cleveland cause i'm not going to harpo's. also in the rollins/danzig thing, well i vote g.g. allin. bobby, first thanks for agreeing w/ something i said, i'm not worthy. also i've got a anonymous account which you could have, let me know if you want it and i'll send you the password. to all those who said he's whining, well he plays guitar doesn't he? :) later -- Paul Hahn Dostoevsky should have written hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu for the Dukes of Hazard Check out the speedball page @ http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul/speedball ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:52:34 -0500 From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #152 A few quick things - Dave Vanian is NOT going to sing with the Misfits, but go watch them anyway. The Glenn/Misfits court stuff was settled out of court, so there's nowhere to go to find the information - it's not public. Glenn Danzig has, in fact, come on the internet to answer fans' questions. It took place some time in November of '94 and the transcript was posted to the Misfits Bible at the time. Michale Graves has posted to the Misfits Bible. Jerry is not avoiding the Misfits Bible. He calls me every week with more information to give to the fiends. As of NOW, he has no computer and no computer literacy. Hopefully things will change. As for Collection II, of course Jerry and the other Misfits had nothing to do with it. It was 100% Glenn's idea and the song choice and overdubbing was 100% Glenn. The lyrics however, were supplied to Caroline by Jerry. There were some other random things in the last issue that I won't bother responding to. Mark ------------------------------ From: KenKriete@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 05:07:03 -0500 Subject: Phoenix >>>>>Anyway, I'm stuck here in Phoenix. Does anyone know if they're planning on coming out west any time soon?<<<< They'll certainly be there before the end of the summer. ------------------------------ From: Romuald Giulivo Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #152 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 12:43:30 +0100 (MET) First of all, let me introduce myself, my name is Romuald and i'm a french fiend. I just like to say a little more about "Return of fly". The lyrics are actually "helen delambre, francois", but Glenn says it in very english way. What is funny is that we play that song last night with my band in a club in Paris, and the singer told it with the french accent, after the show we couldn't stop laughing because it was very ridiculous !!! At last, The misfits are going to play in Paris on march 26 and i hope it will kick our ass. If some french fiends are reading the bible, they can email me, we could meet before the show. ------------------------------ From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:28:56 GMT Subject: To Bobby Steele To Bobby: **************************************************************************** ***** Hi Bobby, Just one question...when I spoke to you after the Undead played in Edinburgh (May 1993) you told me you'd be back over "in the fall". Yeah, but WHAT YEAR!!! Seriously, it was a great show...any plans to return to the UK? Raising the bucks to get here is the problem I suppose... **************************************************************************** ***** To everyone else: One more point, to everyone that's complaining that the Bible should only be about praising and celebrating the greatness of the Misfits...I totally disagree. I have no time for the mindless adulation of bands...both sides of the story are far better. The good and the bad. That way you have a far more real picture of what's actually happening, and in a public forum like this, everyone has the chance to put in their opinions, their side of the story or whatever. What's the point of sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the fact that things aren't always as black and white as some would have you believe. If you don't want to read all this stuff, then don't...it's as simple as that. By not including it at all, then those of us who would like to read it don't even get the chance. Really, if someone is genuine about what they say and do, then they should have little problem in demonstrating that. If someone is full of shit, then they just can't deal with those awkward questions...so either ignore them, or lie. For the record, Jerry seems like a pretty genuine person (having seen him just the other night in Edinburgh), and the same goes for Bobby. I'm not on either "side"...I just want the truth (hallelujah!!). Let's face it, it would make a pleasant change in this wonderful world of ours! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:39:46 -0800 (PST) From: PRH Subject: SOS(same old..) the misfits music? i thought they were the greatest! i thought Glenn had the greatest voice and i thought their image was just great, i really did think they could hit it big, but they didnt seem very interested in being ultrasuccessful..glenn didnt have that fire in him like he does now. i loved all their songs. i was at the studio when they recorded a couple of takes of NOLD, and i was in awe, i had seen lots of bands rehearse before, but this was A REAL BAND. a tight musical organization. and mostly when they played live, they came together real well, i will never forget when they left the stage after opening for the Damned at Hurrah, dave and captain just looked at each other and shrugged, like to say, why bother playing now? a very hard act to follow. But they were real popular, they had a few real hardcore fans, but nobody took them seriously, except Peter Crowley from Max's. Being such a fan of the old stuff, and i really like Samhain and Danzig as well, i wonder what they sound like now? i heard a tape of Kryst and it wasnt really mindblowing. what will they do for a songwriter now? maybe they can work their chops up, i really hope this doesnt degenerate into a joke band. Cause i thought the Misfits were really great, fun pop music , if you will excuse the obscenity. My 7 yr old son LOVES them, runs around singing "i want your skull" and "prime directive, EXTERMINATE the whole human race!". its great to see. from hell, prh ------------------------------ From: "SEAFARER!Andrew McLaughlin"@uunet.uu.net Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:47:00 EST Subject: Misfits Bible 3x and some comments on the IRC Casualty I'm a big fan of the Bible coming out 3x a week (M,W,F)! Lately these things are too long to read. I hate to ask another question, but if you ever get the urge, it would be interesting to know the total size of all the bibles combined. I'm not familiar with the whole unwritten IRC rules and regulations. My internet connection is through a firewall which doesn't allow me to use port 6667, if anyone can figure out a way to get around this it would be appreciated. Anyhow, I don't know the significance or importance of having 'ops' and the politics around giving it away. My point is, the IRC #Misfits should be a place where anyone who has a view or opinion on the Misfits can express it. This whole business of banning someone from the channel because of whatever is out of hand. Granted, I am speaking without all of the facts, it just seems the power is there and it is abused. Only if someone has nothing to say about the Misfits or clogs up the channel with senseless junk on several occasions after being asked to stop should someone be banned. This begging for forginvess....get real. Even though there is plenty of unrelated Misfits material on the Bible, I wouldn't ask Mark to ban or edit peoples comments. I am sure that if someone sent a message to the bible every week explaining, in detail, the sacreligiousness of using the word bible and Misfits together in this forum, that it would be omitted, although amusing. thats all. see ya. Andrew_McLaughlin@mail.amsinc.com Ps: Are the box set cd cases ever going to be scanned in and put on the graphical discography? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:14:18 -0500 (EST) From: Guero Subject: Misfits sightings!! I read today that ther is a band called Texas Is The Reason, I think they are punkish metal. Anyhow there is a really cool page in a new book on Rollins' publishing company called Pop the Narcotic (the title is something like that) Anyhow, it has a letter from Glenn to Jello Biafra in the appendix that is on Plan 9 letterhead asking for help in distributing the Misfits 7". This page is really cool. The book has many other Misfits stories in it, but unfortunately not enough for me to purchase the book - I just read them in my school bookstore. Craig Walters AKA Guero ------------------------------ From: J.M.Rock@physics.salford.ac.uk Date: 14 Mar 96 17:04 Subject: Re[2]: misfits passes. Mark, cheers for your e:mail, i went to see the Mighty misfits last night at Birmingham Foundry, it was the worst gig i've ever been too, as far as the music goes. I was waiting for about fourty minutes for the misfits to come on, finally i think one of the roadies got up on stage and said the misfits are down the pub and haven't turned up yet. He said you could claim your money back on your way out. All my mates said they were going to go, but i said lets stay and see what happens. As i was saying this, Jerry Only was walking up behind me. We all told him to get up on stage because by now everyone was well pissed off and most people left. He jumped over the barrier with the other members of the band and kicked into HALLOWEEN, about halfway through the song the power was cut, so all we could hear was the drums. We all thought this was to get the crowd going but apparently there was a curfew at 11:00pm. . The crowd was still singing along to a drum beat that wasn't going anywhere. The crowd was fuming and all hell broke loose, a few pint glasses were thrown on stage. Jerry explained the situation and the band came out and did a signing session and gave away loads of free shit (sticks, plecks, stickers etc etc). I've been listening to the Misfits for quite a while now and was very eager to see them live. I got talking to Jerry about this and that, he said he's put me on the guest list for Bradford, so thats where i'm going on Friday. Also i might be going to see them in London, if i can scank a lift. I travelled around 200 miles to see half a song, but i'm pleased i met the band and got chating to them. i'll never forget HALLOWEEN. Jim Rock. (abit pissed off Misfits fan). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:20:37 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #152 woooah, my first post....cool. I just had a few things I felt I had to get out of my system, sorry if I'm making the bible 130k... Rich: I don't know too much about the straight edge crowd here, in the states. I'm an air force brat, I used to live in Okinawa. That's where I first heard the term stragiht edge, from this punk-alterno guy. Well, I came to the realization that I didn't like alcohol, smokin, drugs, anything that could bring me down or have control over me. I decided to adopt the term and lead the lifestyle. I don't hang out with that vocal straight edge crew, I'm not sure I even fit in to their definition, and I don't really know how they act. All I can say is that I practice, but I don't preach, I don't feel like it's my place. Sorry if somebody's pissing ya off. Joe: I think there's an Earth A.D. shirt, but I saw it on Okinawa and I'm not sure that it's not a fake. Mark:I agree with the bible going out 3x a week, the Manic Street Preachers have a mailing list that sends out each post seperately, in stead of one 130k msg you get 50 or 60 seperate messages. I personally like this idea better, you can save certain posts and not going over the limit on disk space. I was also wondering if like someone else said, that we might be able to send in our lyrics for feedback, or; if we were really lucky, to be used. I've got a lot of free time here at college and I like writing lyrics. I'd like to know if I just suck. :) I mailed in my fiend club letter a week or 2 ago. I couldn't find the address to save my life, I don't know too many 'Fits fans around here. I would be willing to pay for anything anybody would like to offer. I somehow lost my pin the first night that I got the boxed set, I was going to wear it to a club and decided not to, I put it down somewhere and can't find it. Anybody got an extra? I'd also be more than willing to pay for the new black light record if someone could pick up an extra at a show. I live in Lubbock, Texas and don't see a show coming here anytime before next semester. I also have to go back to Okinawa for the summer, so if they come here then, I might not be able to check 'em out. If anybody could help me out, thanx. Laterz, Eric (TVCazulty) ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:17:45 -0500 Subject: box set!!! i picked up my box set today. i love it!!! the only problem is i seem to remeber more members being in the band. i think there were a few drummers as a matter of fact, and i believe there were guitarists before doyle. but, oh,well. the music is great. okay, bobby: how did you play vampira. i think i may have it, but it's hard to tell. the guitar is mixed kinda' low. also. am i correct when i say i believe glenn doubled alot of those vocals that seem to be jerry. you can really hear this on the first version of vampira. at first it sounds like glenn/jerry but when one fades you hear glenn, AGAIN. but he just faded out! wow!!! also someone mentioned 138, i always noticed that second guitar. even on the beware and the rest cd. and static age is the greatest. i'm listening to come back right now and i'm about to loose it. i'm pleased. only complaint is the photos but, hell, the ones in there are great! i think eerie's note were good as well! later. D.EVIL "...it was insanity! i loved it..." eerie ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:01:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Bobby >_____________________-- >From: Neil McAllister > >This is in response to Bobby Steele's rebuttal to my criticisms of his last >post to the Bible. I just wanna say first off though, that obviously I >have no authority or inside information in any of these matters and really >none of this is any of my business other than that Bobby seems to be >soliciting opinions. I don't really enjoy reading personal feuds on the >Internet myself, and if you feel like that's all this is feel free to tell >me to just shut up. However, I would disagree that this is really a >personal thing, because I don't know Bobby personally and I'm not in the >Misfits, so I don't really have any reason to argue other than that I do >feel that a lot of this comes down to personal conflicts and name-calling >between past members of the band. That's what too much of it is. And that's what I 'm hoping to end. By coming into the open, I'm hoping we can talk, for once. When I've tried to discuss this with Jerry, he denies everything. > So, it seems to me that what Bobby says >does have some bearing on the current situation of the Misfits, and if >you're interested in that then I think it's only fair to let Bobby have his >say, but he's going to have to deal with what other members of the mailing >list have to say as well. Over the years, I have seen a curiosity as to what really happened. I've been asked a lot of questions. What's being discussed here has been discussed in numerous fanzines. It is a big mess, but I've given Jerry every opportunity to discuss this and he's been evading me. There are a lot of unanswered questions and contradictions in THE MISFITS history. I wish I knew the real reason as to why they are the way they are toward me. If we could talk, we could work out our differences. At least now, you can get a better idea of how big a mess this is. >>Hey, Glenn is basically a nice guy, and I think You're the first person >>I've seen who says so. What gets me is that you seem to admire him for a >>lot of the wrong reasons. > >"Admire" is a little too strong a word. Maybe when I was younger and >before the business aspects of the Misfits/Samhain/Danzig came out I had >more admiration for him. These days all I can really say is that he seems >to share a lot of common interests with me and that I respect him insofar >as he has the balls to get where he wants to go with his life, and has >generally been successful. I can't say I like the way he goes about it, >especially in regards to how he treats the people who have helped him get >there. Your original post sounded like you admired his actions. I'm releived to hear it's not so. > I agree with your sentiment about "be careful how you treat people >you meet on the way up"... I suspect Glenn may yet have to face the music >for some of his decisions. But maybe it's better for his personality if in >future he keeps all his business (music etc.) matters just that -- strictly >business -- and keeps friendships out of it. He certainly seems to have >worked all his friends out of his business life so far. I think the fiends can learn a lot from all this. >> How would you feel if he put a gun to your head, >>took your money and raped your girlfriend. Would that be acceptable to >>you? > >Again, you show a real talent for slanderous and inflammatory statements. What slander? I haven't accused anyone of doing anything. I set up a hypothetical situation in response to you statement about Glenn " I respect him insofar >as he has the balls to get where he wants to go with his life, and has >generally been successful" See? Slander is a statement with the intent to defame, or cause damage to a person or their reputation. Such as" BOBBY COMES LATE, AND HE CAN'T PLAY WHEN HE COMES" (ut #12). > >OK, some background: I am the guy who drew the "Shocking Return of the >Misfits" flyers which by now should be on every telephone pole and >construction site in Europe, and which will probably be seen on T-shirts >and posters later this year for the U.S. leg of the tour. After many >months of hearing about the Misfits, Jerry and Doyle's efforts to get the >band back together, vs. Glenn's statements about his old friends and so >forth, I decided that I supported what Jerry was doing. So, I drew up that >artwork and sent it to him. Just like that. When they got it, Jerry and >Michale called me up and said how great they thought it was, and I spoke to >Ken about whether or not they could use it for something. What I said was >this: feel free, I would be flattered. When I was in high school I >listened to the Misfits non stop, I wore T-shirts everywhere, painted >Crimson Ghosts on every leather jacket I owned, drew zombies with devilocks >on every piece of binder paper you shoved in front of me, and if Jerry >never saw a dime from that then here's my contribution. (Sorry Bobby, my >favorite album was "Walk Among Us".) I gave the Misfits the copyright on >the artwork and carte blanche to use it in any way they see fit. I said >that if my artwork made them rich I'd appreciate a piece of it, but >otherwise I really wasn't all that concerned about payment for it. I have >a decent-paying job, and doing the artwork cost me next to nothing. But when those shirts and posters start selling in the hundreds of thousands, you might feel differently. >So, given that I left myself wide open to be ripped off, what did the >villainous Jerry Only do to take advantage of the situation? He sent me >via UPS a big ol' box of Misfits stuff -- posters, T-shirts, and assorted >Fiend Club merchandise, a deluxe set of Pro Edge knives for use in my >artwork, a promo sampler CD from the box set, etc. And a letter stating >that he'd be sure and do the "righteous thing" by cutting me in on whatever >they might make from T-shirt sales or whatever. Have I ACTUALLY gotten any >other money out of it since? Nope, not so far at least. But it's sure >curious behavior on the corrupt and money-grubbing Jerry's behalf, >considering I didn't ask for anything at all. And every time I have been >in contact with Ken or Jerry about doing more artwork, the first thing out >of their mouths other than "Sounds great!" is "How do you want to get paid >for it, do you want us to buy the artwork off you or do you want a piece of >it, or what?" As far as I can see, ripping people off -- if those people >have an honest claim to some compensation -- is the last thing on their >minds. It is strange. I admit. So what is going on? There's gotta be more to this than any of us know, and that's all I want to know. Remember, I wasn't the one who said that everybody got paid. I just said that that was not true. >>It's good you read my bio. I don't think anyone who's seen or heard THE >>UNDEAD would call it a two-bit punk outfit. I do damn good - considering >>my limited resources. And I never COMPLAINED. I'd hate to see how you would >>'ve handled the same situation. If you read the bio more carefully, you'd >>see that the writer is talking about my ability to survive. Maybe Jerry >>and Doyle worked the machine shop 'cause they were sick of the music biz. >>Jerry did denounce THE MISFITS at least at one point that I know of. There's >>nothing wrong with being rich. And there's nothing wrong with wanting >>what's yours either. While they were working at the machine shop - to >>make money - I was still making music, which I love. > >You wouldn't call it "complaining" when every other statement out of your >mouth is about "your limited resources" and how broke you are? No complaint; Just a fact. > You seem >determined every chance you get to make a case for why you deserve a >hand-out. Does your employer give you a "hand out"? You worked for it, you deserve it. I worked for my royalties, I deserve to get them. > My recommendation is maybe to try working a "day job" for a >while... it might teach you something about the way the world works. (Oo, >that wasn't very punk rock of me was it? Sorry everybody.) I do work everyday. On THE UNDEAD and TIMES SQUARE. The pay sux, but if things work out I could make some real good money in the end. I book shows, design, print and distribute press kits, duplicate tapes and assemble the inserts. I write, and practice. I'm gambling with my life, 'cause I BELIEVE IN MYSELF. >> The money issue >>is secondary, but what kind of person would I be if I didn't just try to >>get what I'm entitled to. Would you just sit back if your boss didn't pay >>you what he promised you, for the work you did. You'd be a wimp not to >>put up some kind of fight. > >"The money issue is secondary"... you do seem somewhat contradictory. But >FYI, yes, as a freelancer I am currently having problems of exactly that >nature with my employer, but I am handling it diplomatically through proper >channels rather than dragging my affairs all over my workplace. I've tried going through proper channels, but haven't gotten ANY answers. Maybe someone who's reading this, and knows Jerry, can let Jerry know that all I want is for him to put some priority in settling this with me. There is no argument as to whetherI'm owed money. that's been established - I beleive. >>Did you make the same criticism of Jerry when he was 'whining' about not >>getting paid by Glenn? > >Honestly? Yes. Until I heard Jerry's side of the story. I buy his >perspective a lot more than I buy yours, I'm sorry to say. Keep listening. Maybe you'll see my point in the end. We seem to be agreeing a lot more on this already. >>Well, I am broke, but there isn't anything that can keep me down. Certainly >>not your verbal attacks! I fell between the cars of a moving subway train >>and came out of it without a scratch - and just under $15,000.00 that >>helped keep THE UNDEAD going for another two-years, and helped me to >>get some more recording gear. > >I'm sorry to hear about the subway, but this is exactly the sort of thing >I'm talking about. I'm not saying you weren't entitled to that settlement, >but wouldn't you be able to look yourself in the mirror a lot easier if you >had EARNED that money to keep the band going? It's not like I said "Oh I'll jump in front of that train, and if I survive I'll be rich". It happened because of someone elses negligence, and they "took responsibility for their actions". > I mean seriously, to call >that an achievement certainly seems like taking the low road to me. It's not an acheivement, but it is a miracle that I survived. Do you know what the odds are in that? >It >seems to me that you sell yourself short again and again in your life, and >then you want other people to take the blame for it. You claim you'll >"always scrape by somehow" but honestly I don't think you really believe >it. But hey I'm no shrink. I've survived a lot worse situations, and I always do get by. That's called optimism, not "selling short". >> Out of curiosity, what exactly do you do? It's a lot easier to talk >>with someone if you know a little bit about them. > >I'm 23 as of March 16th, and I am the systems/network administrator at Big >Top Productions, a multimedia/ digital entertainment company based in San >Francisco. We have several children-oriented "edutainment" CD-ROM titles >on the market, but currently we're working on pioneering new ways of >bringing people fully animated interactive entertainment over the World >Wide Web. And before you start drawing any parallels, NO -- I did not have >the advantage of my parents paying for a big college education etc. I >bailed out of the 12th grade when I was 17, played around with community >college a but but then decided college wasn't for me, and spent the next >year or two working various jobs in retail and so forth, working my way up >to where I could offer my skills for this position. The difference between >me and most people is that while most people were out partying and shooting >crank and whatever, I was the weird kid with a mohawk who sat in his room >with a Misfits record playing, teaching himself C programming and UNIX on >an obsolete IBM XT computer (the same one that's on my desk at home 10 >years later). When I wasn't doing that, I was doing artwork, and I still >plan to break away from computers and go back to my first love, probably >doing art for comic books... proving, for all you punkers out there, that >I'm not on this earth for money either. And what is more, while most >people saw their jobs as ways to get their parents off their back and were >spending all their time figuring out ways to slack off, I straightened >myself up and decided that if I was going to work for somebody, I was going >to do it right. I've never fucked over my employer just like I would never >fuck over my friends, and in return I know I can rightfully expect fair and >equitable treatment. I have had disagreements with people in business >before, but when I needed to straighten those differences out it has always >been done with respect and through the proper business channels. So you, too have overcome a lot, and have all my respect. Computers are a powerful tool, because they do put the "little guy" on a more even playing field with the "big guys". If it weren't for the computer, I never would've been able to do what I did with ACT YOUR RAGE. Have you ever heard much of THE UNDEAD? >And Bobby, this is just the perspective I'm coming from on "The Bobby >Issue". I just feel that you've handled this whole situation since the >time you left the Misfits very childishly. If you look back, you'll see that this whole thing has been childish: from Glenn's "if you don't play my way, I'm gonna take my bat and ball and go home" attitude, to not paying a guy, who worked hard to help you get where you are, and is clearly entitled to his cut - for no clear reason. > I think the less >confrontational and inflammatory you try to be, the more you'll notice that >people seem to want to pay more attention to you. People DO listen to me. The guy who has my money is the only one who's ignoring me. > Nobody wants to hear a >sob story. It's not a "sob story" it's merely my response to their statement that "everyone's been paid". > especially when at the same time you're accusing them of >everything from fraud, to drawing parallels between how you've been treated >to "holding a gun to your head and raping your girlfriend", etc. Again, I was making an analogy, to point out that your statement that Glenn's " a very >nice guy, but also very ambitious >and apparently not above stepping on the backs of some (former) friends to >get where he wants to go." carries very little weight as far as being a nice guy. In both instances, Ipoint out, He's showing ambition, and getting where he wants to go. Your initial statement seems to say that no matter what the means, it's the end result that matters; while I'm pointing out that that isn't so. >CAN NOT speak to whether you are legally owed royalty payment on new >Misfits reissues, etc. Obviously you DID play on a good selection of those >tracks and nobody is going to take that away from you. But you're not >going to make (back) any friends if you insist on taking this attitude you >have. Openness and honesty? Thanks again. I think we're beginning to have a better understanding of one another. I'll make a note of your expertise. If I wind up in a better position, I might want to work with you on some multi-media ideas that I have regarding some live MISFITS recordings that I own, along with photos and video footage that I would like to put on it. >Neil McAllister (pcm2@sentient.com) >San Francisco, California, USA >_________________________________ > >From: Ken Graf >Subject: stuff >To: MISFITS@virginia.edu > >Hey fiends! > Well, just wanted to say that I stand my ground on what I said >concerning Bobby Steele's posts. Bobby, it's cool to answer questions and >shit >but personal battles should not be started here. In no way am I jumping on >some >kind of "let's get Bobby"bandwagon. If you saw my first post last issue >concerning the matter, you'd see what I mean. I have a great deal of respect >for you and your work, but like I said before, let's not turn this into an >"undead vs. misfits" battle zone. I agree with pretty much everything >Crimson >Ghost said in the last bible, he's just a little more straight-forward and >blunt than I am. OK, enough babbling about that. > > --Lord Kenatos I'm not trying to start a battle. I'm trying to end a mess that's been going on for fifteen years. I'm not attacking anyone. I've just come on here and stated that things that have been said about me aren't true, and I want to straighten out those misperceptions. I approached Jerry at CHILLER with an open mind, in hopes that the feud was over. When he told me I was not gonna get any of the advance money, I saw it was still gonna be an uphill battle. If you don't want me to keep saying I didn't get paid, there's an easy solution...pay me. Don't go out and tell your fans that you did. If and when I get paid, I'll let you know. I tried to find a copy of your post, but I can't locate it, so I'm at a loss on any further comment about what you said. I know Mark lost two emails last week. I think I've said all that needs to be said about our dispute over the money, and most of you agree that I should get what I deserve. Let's start taking the focus of this away from the money thing. I'm sure there's more that you'd like to know about me. I could start at the beginning "Born on Mach 18, 1956 during a record snowstorm, with a serious birth defect....but I'd like to just give you what you want to know. I've been attacked about statements about my disability. Would you attack a person who pointed he was black, and say he was using it as an "excuse"? I was very active as a kid. I did all the things kids did: shoplifitng/ car theft-joyriding / gangs - gangfights. in my pre-teen years, i spent most of my time in the swamps on the Hackensack river - more like a toxic dump back then - getting stuck in quicksand, catching frogs and snapping turtles. Just generally courting death and avoiding cops. Being the 'crippled kid' never held me back - it probably made me worse, 'cause I wanted to rebel against what I refused to be. In later years, I did drugs. Lots of drugs. I don't recommend it to anyone. Most of my friends are dead. By the time I was in THE MISFITS I had cut out everything except pot and alcohol. I sold pot, for free head stash, which was common behavior in those days. It wasn't until july 4, 1979 that I took a 'Lude'. I'd gotten bit on the finger the night before, and it hurt, so someone offered me one - for the pain. I made the mistake of drinking heavily that night, passed out and went into convulsions. Pat Ragan revived me, and sat me at a table...with John Lennon. Everything went black, and the next thing I knew Iwas being told that I puked on John Lennon. It turned out to be great publicity for THE MISFITS. They loved it, and encouraged me to do more "drug crazed" antics for their publicity. I was their SID. And like Sid, I guess, I was their sacrificial lamb. Except I didn't die like Sid. I started to sell ludes, to help pay for mine. I regret this, and I have to live with it on my concience that I may have contributed to other people's downfall. One thing was for sure. I never let it interfere with my music. I hung out at after-hours clubs, and talked up THE MISFITS to everyone I met. I wasn't the only one doing these things, but I'm not gonna 'snitch' on others about that. They'll have to do that themselves. It can't be denied, because there were plenty of people around that saw it. I doubt if any of us was sober at a gig. My first gig was at MAX's, on a Sunday Night. We were supposed to be openning for Trixxie Sly, who never showed. So, instead of going on when we thought we'd be going on, we suddenly found ourselves with another hour in which to get fucked up. And we were fucked up! Jerry had made a pair of Spandex pants for himself, without knowing that you can't sew spandex on a regular machine. You need a machine that does a stitch that gives with the stretch. The first song was STATIC AGE. Jerry counted off "one - two - three - four" both of us jumped into the air. Jerry did a split, and his pants didn't split with him. I did a spin, lost my balance, and fell into the drum set. From the audience point of view - I doubt you could've been more punk than that. Bassist with his pants hangin from his waiste (Lucky he wore underwear), and gimpy guitarist struggling to his feet. THE MISFITS WERE BACK!!! I wasn't even aware of the GRAPE KOOL-AIDE that Glenn dumped on the audience until some guy attacked me on stage for getting him wet. If the audience liked you, they threw shit at ya. And they threw everything at us: glasses, bottles, chairs and tables. By the time we got to ATTITUDE, Max's was in a shambles. It was some kind of punk rock miracle that no one got hurt in the melee. It was all in fun as we provoked the crowd into losing all their inhibitions, and attacking us with the zeal of a person at a carnival arcade. We could duck anything!!!! It was the beginning of something BIGGER than any of us. Next question? ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:43:49 -0500 Subject: lyle! lyle preslar was the executive producer of the box set. neat! D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:38:07 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Glitch/BobbySteele/Xfiles WoW! The last few Bibles have been amazing. In fact, that last one got a little cut off! Did this happen to anyone else? It killed near the end of Bobby Steele's post, and then went into the ASCII signoff at the end. Oh well. Bobby Steele: Welcome aboard. It's amazing how your presense has sparked so much conversation and debate. Let's hope things don't get too out of hand. For the benefit of everybody, let's hope we can get better insights and information about the Misfits. So far it has been a one-sided story (Jerry via Mark), and it's good to get a broader view of things. However, I don't want to personally get involved in a "who's right/who's wrong" debate. All I'm saying is that it's good to get as many sides as possible. I've had the pleasure of seeing the Undead play (the Live Slayer tour) in Muskegon, MI (at the IcePick, a real hole) and got a chance to speak with you briefly at the end of the show. So, I don't doubt your ability to comminucate and your openness to the public. Hopefully things will work out for *everyone* and things can get back on track. It's really too bad that the time you showed up happened to be the same time of Box Set release and royalty time. Coincidence? >:( In other related news: Just got a copy of the X-Files soundtrack with Danzig's song "Deep." It is pretty cool. I work at Best Buy, and since there weren't any supervisors in my department, I popped it in the instore stereo. Needless to say, the roof was literally shaking from the bass. Hey, if Caroline had sent us a promo of Collection II and the like, we'd be jamming that too. But, that's another story! .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~snook `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:19:27 -0500 Subject: TIMES SQUARE THIS JUST IN.... ...CBS NEWS called today. They're interested in doing a story on JILL MATTHEWS of TIMES SQUARE after seeing an article in LIVE magazine. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 03:49:54 -0500 From: She Subject: Tape ahh fiends, Doyle doesn't tape his devilock on - he uses black wiring tape to hold it in place. That's all. some of you seemed a little confused. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:26:15 -0500 (EST) From: "William P. Musso" Subject: Return of the `Fits RETURN OF THE `FITS Return of the `Fits With Michale Graves Yeah, return of the `Fits Jerry Only, Jerry Only And Chud, yeah Chud Return of the `Fits No more Danzig `Cuz his shit don't stink Yeah, no more Danzig Jerry Only, Jerry Only And Chud, yeah Chud Go Doyle, go Doyle The return of the `Fits With Michale Graves No more Danzig Yeah, return of the `Fits ---Psycho Billy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:13:49 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Holford Subject: Christian Misfits? Bobby, you said in the last bible that Jerry is a "born again christian", is this true. I was thinking about it the other day while reading some of the Kryst lyrics on Mark's GREAT page, and I noticed that they did seem to be steering from the rather unchristain lyrics of like the A.D. stuff. Also, about you smoking pot and all, you can do what you wanta do and all, but unless you are one of the few(very few) people in the U.S. that have the right to smoke it for medical reasons, then I wouldnt mention it. I'm not trying to bitch at you, but you dont need problems with cops also. I was listening to a version of Teenagers From Mars (live) where the lyrics where changes(i'm sure you know), and it sounded like Gleen was actually talking to you. He was saying stuff like "Show us your cunt!" , "yeah you do have a cunt" , "Your gonna die tonight" and all. Where you there? I guess you were,was that around the time you got kicked out, or much later, I'm just trying to fiugre out if glenn+company had been playing that version long after you were outa the picture, or just the first few shows afterward. Thankz! -Jon ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:14:18 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #152 Just to resopond to the post from the guy in Calgary who mentioned the band Forbiden Dimension. I live in Saint John and they have a copy of one of their CD's here at the campus radio staion. I play them all the time and usually describe them as a band that kinda sounds like DOA and looks kinda like the misftis. If all 3 of those bands got together it would be a great bill. Check them out guys (and girls), you will like ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:27:24 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #152 This is to Mattew Leitman, Yeah, it sucks big time that the Montreal show got canceled. I was really looking forward to going there to see it seeing how I know the city pretty good now and I know a couple of people there. I dont think Im going to go to the TO show. BOston is closer and Im thinking about checking out the boston show and the providence show. Once agian, it sucks. Hey, have you ever heard of Lizard? They live and play in montreal and they are originaly from here (saint john NB). They just played a show at Fouf's electric (Im know I spelled it wrong) with a band from here called NYD. Just curious. 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(HaTe breeders) ] [ (Horror busiNess) (20 eyes) ] [ (i TurNed iNTo a MarTiaN) (VioLeNT WorLd) ] ] align-label-2 cd-label showpage ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:35:45 -0500 Subject: THEY REALLY LIKE ME.... >From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk > >***** >Hi Bobby, > Just one question...when I spoke to you after the Undead played in >Edinburgh (May 1993) you told me you'd be back over "in the fall". Yeah, but >WHAT YEAR!!! Considering my previous appearance was in '79; every fourteen years. > Seriously, it was a great show...any plans to return to the >UK? Raising the bucks to get here is the problem I suppose... I WAS hoping to return immediately. Despite the cold weather, I really enjoyed my visit to the U.K. this time. The audiences were small, but supportive...except for London, where I had to cut the set short because of all the smoke - and a bad attack of bronchitis. With my new manager, I hope to return within the next 18 months(playing it safe). The money shouldn't be a problem. >**************************************************************************** >***** > >One more point, to everyone that's complaining that the Bible should only be >about praising and celebrating the greatness of the Misfits...I totally >disagree. I have no time for the mindless adulation of bands...both sides of >the story are far better. The good and the bad. That way you have a far more >real picture of what's actually happening, and in a public forum like this, >everyone has the chance to put in their opinions, their side of the story or >whatever. What's the point of sticking your head in the sand and ignoring >the fact that things aren't always as black and white as some would have you >believe. If you don't want to read all this stuff, then don't...it's as >simple as that. By not including it at all, then those of us who would like >to read it don't even get the chance. Really, if someone is genuine about >what they say and do, then they should have little problem in demonstrating >that. If someone is full of shit, then they just can't deal with those >awkward questions...so either ignore them, or lie. For the record, Jerry >seems like a pretty genuine person (having seen him just the other night in >Edinburgh), and the same goes for Bobby. I'm not on either "side"...I just >want the truth (hallelujah!!). Let's face it, it would make a pleasant >change in this wonderful world of ours! Good point. I can see that my original intent for coming on here is finally becoming more clear for you. ______________________________________________________________ > >To: misfits@virginia.edu >From: SETH STOKES >Subject: Bobby.... > >Bobby, > > Eventhough everyone and their family is writing to say "quit >whining" and the like. I on the other hand am not doing that. If these >people went to work and didn't get paid, would the complain? I think some of them would just accept their loss, and get a reputation as an easy target. > I think >so. I say don't give up the fight, get what you deserve. I just want to >know anothe rpart of the fits history that I don't currently know, that is >where I can use you, for help. I also hope that you continue to stay >with us fiends here on the bible and can fill us in on alot of missing >info. Now if we can get Jerry, Glen, etc. and all others to join us here >at our humble home. Some of the fiends can hear all of the stories >and make their own decision on these subjects and quit taking what >magazines and second hand stories that are "completely the truth" to >be the truth. Also I'm having a hard time finding Undead merchandise >and albums, can you help out? Until next time, stick around. there's a copy of our catalog on the bbs, and I guess at the website. If you can't find it...kick Marks ass!!! Where do you live? I can tell you if I know any stores nearby that carry our stuff. > Fellowship of the >fiend... > Brother >Stokes >________________________________________________________________ >From: EvilDieff@aol.com > >i picked up my box set today. i love it!!! the only problem is i seem to >remeber more members being in the band. i think there were a few drummers as >a matter of fact, and i believe there were guitarists before doyle. but, >oh,well. the music is great. Before Doyle, you had me and FRANCHE, I think they mentioned MANNY, MR JIM, JOEY, GOOGIE, ROBO. The only one that might have been left out was BRIAN DAMAGE, and RICHARD(VICTIMS singer - who filled in for Franche on some Canada shows in '78). >okay, bobby: >how did you play vampira. i think i may have it, but it's hard to tell. the >guitar is mixed kinda' low. Whoa! That's gonna be a hard one to describe with just words: start by doubling the 'D' on the first string at the10th fret, by bending the "B" string at the 13th fret. the rythm is played on the 'E' and 'A'strings. Play the open 'E' string, while - on the 'A' string go from the 'D' on the 5th frert to the 'E' on the 7th fret. Kinda like a mutation of the 'Chuck Berry rythm'. When the chord changes; just play the same pattern on the 'A' and 'D' strings. the chorus is the 'A' chord on the fifth fret, to the 'B' chord on the 7th fret. If you want to do Doyle's version; just change the opening and closing note from a 'D' to to barreing the 'E' and 'B'strings on the 12th fret. > also. am i correct when i say i believe glenn >doubled alot of those vocals that seem to be jerry. you can really hear this >on the first version of vampira. at first it sounds like glenn/jerry but when >one fades you hear glenn, AGAIN. but he just faded out! wow!!! It sounds like Glenn did double his vocals. That was recorded at an 8 track studio. I think we used 3 tracks for drums, 1-bass, 2 guitar, and 2 vocals - so we probably had Glenn do one track, and then on the second track he joined the rest of us. >also someone mentioned 138, i always noticed that second guitar. even on the >beware and the rest cd. and static age is the greatest. i'm listening to come >back right now and i'm about to loose it. i'm pleased. only complaint is the >photos but, hell, the ones in there are great! i think eerie's note were good >as well! later. If I get to put out the LIVE stuff I have, There'll be more complete photos of the HORROR BIZ / NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD line-up. Possibly some video...however much I can find. >____________________________________________________________________________ > >From: Eric Snook >Subject: Glitch/BobbySteele/Xfiles > > WoW! The last few Bibles have been amazing. In fact, that last >one got a little cut off! Did this happen to anyone else? I couldn't open it. My computer would freeze up. Glenn? You can lift the curse now. > It killed >near the end of Bobby Steele's post, and then went into the ASCII signoff >at the end. Oh well. At least it got the important part (heh heh) > >Bobby Steele: Welcome aboard. It's amazing how your presense has >sparked so much conversation and debate. Let's hope things don't get too >out of hand. Too late. > For the benefit of everybody, let's hope we can get better >insights and information about the Misfits. So far it has been a >one-sided story (Jerry via Mark), and it's good to get a broader view of >things. However, I don't want to personally get involved in a >"who's right/who's wrong" debate. All I'm saying is that it's good to get >as many sides as possible. I've had the pleasure of seeing the Undead play >(the Live Slayer tour) in Muskegon, MI (at the IcePick, a real hole) Actually, it was the INVISIBLE MAN (band) tour. Do you know who that girl, (Laura Mastenbrook), that wrote that nasty letter to MRR about what a "stuck up rockstar" I was - is? I'd still like to hear from her again. >and >got a chance to speak with you briefly at the end of the show. So, I >don't doubt your ability to comminucate and your openness to the public. >Hopefully things will work out for *everyone* and things can get back on >track. It's really too bad that the time you showed up happened to be the >same time of Box Set release and royalty time. Coincidence? Actually, I decided to do it for my birthday, MARCH 18. It just seemed like a good time to do it. Of course, with the box set - and all those great unreleased tracks - I got inspired. >In other related news: Just got a copy of the X-Files soundtrack with >Danzig's song "Deep." It is pretty cool. I work at Best Buy, and since >there weren't any supervisors in my department, I popped it in the >instore stereo. Needless to say, the roof was literally shaking from the >bass. Hey, if Caroline had sent us a promo of Collection II and the like, >we'd >be jamming that too. But, that's another story! They should get with it. Even THE UNDEAD (despite the $$$) sends instore cassettes to every store on our mailing list. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 23:50:45 -0500 From: She Subject: my brother My greedy brother has this for sale: Misfits Earth AD Gold CD $75 ------------------------------ Subject: money Date: Sat, 16 Mar 96 4:08:46 EST From: Blood Feast call me weird, but I don't care about money. I don't care who has it. I don't care who doesn't have it, I don't care who owes it to who, and I CERTAINLY don't care who has paid who back and who hasn't. my point is that this is the misfits bible, not the mi$fit$ bible. I like the music written and performed by the misfits, and that's why I'm subscribed to the bible. It really sucks to get warnings from my provider that I'm using too much disk space, just to read that misfit-x owes y amount of dollars to misfit-z. Does anyone else feel this way? Bobby Steele: I've never met you in person, and I'm sure you're a really great guy, and I'm genuinely deeply sorry that you didn't get the money you were supposed to get, but if you're broke on 500 dollars a month, maybe you should try to reduce your cost of living, I pay my own way through college, as well as all my own rent and utilities on 200 dollars a month. Maybe you should move out of the city, where things wouldn't be so expensive, and that way you wouldn't be so broke all the time. I'm not trying to offend you or piss you off or anything, I just wish you'd stop making misfits bible issues so big by talking about money, because I don't care about money. by the way, did you have a hand in writing any of the stuff on earth ad or die die my darling? I'm just curious, cuz those are my favorites, and I was wondering who wrote the music. (I'm assuming Glenn didn't do it ALL). thanks for your time. mark, I think three issues a week would be a really good idea, cuz I keep getting warnings from my internet provider, and I don't wanna lose my internet axcess. peace out, bldfeast ------------------------------ From: Nikolopoulos Yannis -BSc Mod Comp Date: Sat, 16 Mar 96 15:00:23 GMT Subject: Misfits LIVE in the UK!! Yeah!! I can die happily now that I've seen them, heard them, met them! I went to the Leicester and Bradford gigs with 2 friends of mine who came all the way from Greece (!!) for these concerts! We missed most of Sardonica's set (unfortunately) in both gigs. The first one was the Leicester gig. They were playing at the club of the university. I guess around 500 people showed up. The stage was almost at ground level so I spent half the concert on stage :). When the Misfits came flying out launching into Halloween I thought I was gonna faint.... I REALLY could NOT believe my eyes! Jerry and Doyle were in front of me! They played for about 1 hour with virtually no breaks. The sound was ok but Michale's vocals were a bit low. Nevertheless, it was FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!!! Jerry was pounding the bass REALLY hard and Doyle was really misusing his guitar too :) . Michale is an EXCELLENT frontman and CHUD is a great drummer! Michale was giving the mic to the fans and I got to sing a bit on my favourite (Hatebreeders:)) Set list....err, well, they played loads of stuff :). The setlist on the previous bible (posted by the guy from Glasgow) was almost the same as in Leicester. They played 2 songs that I didn't recognise but I couldn't really judge them first time around. The gig finished and we were standing there not really believing what we had just witnessed!!!! And it was no small thing : The return of the Misfits!! After the show, all the Misfits came to hang out with the fans. I met them all. Before, I always heard about how nice guys they are (and ESPECIALLY Jerry!). It is SO TRUE! They are all great guys. They signed everything they were given, we got photos with them and we were talking to them for quite a while. Michale was enjoying himself and CHUD...well CHUD is a great guy, very funny and very friendly! Doyle was a bit more distanced (it seems) but he still signed everything he was given posed for pictures (GREAT pictures) and generally hang around with the rest... Jerry though is the best! Easily , one of the nicest guys I've ever met!! Very talkative, very friendly, answering all questions with a smile, he was just great! So, we told them that we would see them the next day (in Bradford) and took off (they asked us if we wanted to be put on the guest list but we already had tickets).... Oh well, I'm too tired to write about the Bradford gig so I'll do that some other time..... Oh, I also met a fiend from the bible (sorry can't remember your name, but send me an email with your address so I can send you the photos!!) and saw him in Bradford as well !! :)) ... Ok, gotta go now, Yannis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:19:44 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #152 I want my pick Crimson Ghost. wes ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:28:45 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #152 Lord B says that he'll buy everyone two picks for 3$ and that 1/2 of the money is going to help the homeless. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:33:28 -0500 From: Zodiac Subject: Box Set I received my box set courtesy of CD Now! on Friday (it took 10 days from when I mailed payment to it being delivered to the front door) and I have no complaints whatsoever. Static Age rules! (oh yeah, I am positive the Cenobites had something to do with the design of the Static Age case...) On Earth as it is in Hell. Zodiac This message brought to you by Zodiac. E-Mail: abbadon@idirect.com "It wasn't a rock and roll party, It was more like a dying horse that needed putting out of it's misery. We raised that horses head and choked the living shitright out of it!" -Malcolm McLaren, talking about the final Sex Pistols show in San Fransisco (14 Jan 1978). ------------------------------ From: Caroline Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:22:09 -0500 Subject: Uneasy Listening Caroline is releasing the Eerie Von and Mike Morance album entitled "Uneasy Listening" (CAR 7531) in late June/early July. It is an 8 song (mostly instrumental) record of "classical meets spooky horror music." Eerie took all of the photography in the layout and it looks and sounds great. Posters and postcards will be made around the release. It will be available on CD and CS. Anyone wanting to be on the mailing list for this record should write to Caroline c/o Eerie Von/Mike Morance. ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:01:33 -0500 Subject: MORE >Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:13:49 -0500 (EST) >From: Jon Holford >Subject: Christian Misfits? > >Bobby, > you said in the last bible that Jerry is a "born again >christian", is this true. That was a claim he made a few years ago, when he started the Kryst thing. Whether it was real, or just something he 'made up' I can't say. I'm just going by what he said. > I was thinking about it the other day while >reading some of the Kryst lyrics on Mark's GREAT page, and I noticed that >they did seem to be steering from the rather unchristain lyrics of like >the A.D. stuff. > Also, about you smoking pot and all, you can do what you wanta do >and all, but unless you are one of the few(very few) people in the U.S. >that have the right to smoke it for medical reasons, then I wouldnt >mention it. I'm not trying to bitch at you, but you dont need problems >with cops also. I already have problems w/cops. They stop me on the street, 'cause they think my cane is a 'concealed weapon'. Most states refuse to prosecute any medical marijuana cases. Juries have to be informed that it is a case of necessity, and they can choose to find you 'not guilty', because the law is wrong. Living in NYC makes it a lot less likely that I'll get nailed. It actually is a 'RIGHT'. By denying it, legally, the government is violating the AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT since this is the only thing that's comes between possibly millions of people and their ability to join the work force. > I was listening to a version of Teenagers From Mars (live) where >the lyrics where changes(i'm sure you know), and it sounded like Gleen >was actually talking to you. He was saying stuff like "Show us your >cunt!" , "yeah you do have a cunt" , "Your gonna die tonight" and all. >Where you there? I've heard one of those (I understand there are two versions). I mentioned it to Jerry once, and he says it never happened...??? Who do you think it was that said 'Bobby Steele is a homosexual'? it sounds like 'MO' to me. I only saw three MISFITS shows after getting fired. The 'evil live' show, and Halloween 80 & 81. I hear that one of them was done on 4-17-82, which was when THE UNDEAD was in San Francisco. A week after the ELITE CLUB incident. So I couldn't have been there for that one. If one of them is from the EVIL LIVE show; I was there. > I guess you were,was that around the time you got kicked >out, or much later, I'm just trying to fiugre out if glenn+company had >been playing that version long after you were outa the picture, or just >the first few shows afterward. > Thankz! > -Jon > >________________________________ > >Subject: money >To: misfits@virginia.edu >From: Blood Feast > >call me weird, but I don't care about money. I don't care who >has it. I don't care who doesn't have it, I don't care who owes >it to who, and I CERTAINLY don't care who has paid who back >and who hasn't. my point is that this is the misfits bible, not >the mi$fit$ bible. I like the music written and performed by >the misfits, and that's why I'm subscribed to the bible. It >really sucks to get warnings from my provider that I'm using >too much disk space, just to read that misfit-x owes y amount >of dollars to misfit-z. Does anyone else feel this way? Hey, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that there would be such a problem with providers. I told ya I was new to this. Maybe you don't care now, while you're in college - living in an idealistic dream world. But this is reality out here, and ya NEED money. If it's not so important to you, you can send it to me. I got a few surgeries I could use. >Bobby Steele: I've never met you in person, and I'm sure you're >a really great guy, and I'm genuinely deeply sorry that you >didn't get the money you were supposed to get, but if you're >broke on 500 dollars a month, maybe you should try to reduce >your cost of living, I pay my own way through college, as well >as all my own rent and utilities on 200 dollars a month. Where do you live? In a dorm or something. Is it in close proximity to the major record industry. Can you just walk to the corner to buy groceries, or do you need a car, and have to pay for gas? Unless I plan to give up my music career, I'm gonna stay where I am. My rent is $305.00/month. Electric $70 - $100/month (because of heat,.a.c. and recording equipt) Why am I explainig this to some college "CRITIC". In a few years, you'll look back at your letter, and realize how ignorant you sounded. Why don't you start a business with some friends, work for two years with no pay, and when the company rakes in the millions don't go in and ask for your share. You'd be a major schmuck - wouldn't you? Sure, Money can't buy happiness, but I'm already happy. I just want what I worked for, and you can't, in your right mind, argue with that. DID YOU FEEL THIS WAY ABOUT JERRY WHEN HE WAS WHINING ABOUT NOT GETTING HIS MONEY FROM GLENN? Before you start to criticize me for fighting for my rights, try living in my shoes for a few years. Sorry I'm being so harsh, but I have no patience for 'know it alls' who think because they're in college, they know the answer to all the world's problems andact like they're bleeding heart liberals, until they're faced with a real moral situation. >Maybe you should move out of the city, where things wouldn't be so >expensive, and that way you wouldn't be so broke all the time. I don't have a right to live where I want to live? Is $305/month really that expensive. Have you read the INK 19 iinterview with THE MISFITS? The writer was quite amazed at the expanse of property that Jerry owns. I'm not looking for anyone's help, and I don't need your sympathy. I'm just stating the FACT that, DESPITE WHAT CAROLINE RECORDS HAS SAID; I DID NOT GET PAID, AND UNTIL ANYONE CAN PROVE OTHERWISE I HAVE A RIGHT TO FIGHT FOR MY MONEY. >I'm not trying to offend you or piss you off or anything, I >just wish you'd stop making misfits bible issues so big by >talking about money, If I didn't have to deal with repeating myself on this money issue, to people who don't seem to have a very good reading comprehension, your bible wouldn't be so big. I came on here to talk, openly with fiends, because there are so many unanswered questions. Have any of the other MISFITS, who can afford this better than me - offered to discuss what really happened, and why they won't give the money to the two musicians that both Glenn and Jerry have said was the best line-up? I suggest there's a fear of competition. A fear that if Bobby Steele had the resources to do what he truly wants to do, musically, he might show them up? Let's put things on an even ground. My money should be invested in my projects, not Jerry's. There's a real simple solution to this. All the guy's gotta do is pay me and Joey. It's the honorable thing, and "LIFE WITHOUT HONOR IS NOT LIFE AT ALL" Right? How exactly do you get by on $200.00/month? How much rent do you pay? Where do you live? Who do you live with? How much is your tuition? I just find your claim to be incredible, unless you're Jesus, and you're doing the "loaves and fishes" trick. >because I don't care about money. I don't know you, but whenever I hear that kind of talk, it's coming from someone who grew up in a 'nice' upper middle class - to - rich household. They've always had everything they wanted and never learned the true value of the dollar. It's easy to live the 'poor' lifestyle when you can always go back to daddy's mansion when the novelty wears out. I see it all the time in my neighborhood. I've even seen it in some of the 'political' hardcore bands. > by the >way, did you have a hand in writing any of the stuff on earth >ad or die die my darling? I got kicked out in October, 80 > I'm just curious, cuz those are my >favorites, and I was wondering who wrote the music. (I'm >assuming Glenn didn't do it ALL). thanks for your time. I'm sure Glenn did it all. When I was in the band he did it all. Listen to the NEW MISFITS, and you'll be able to tell the difference. >mark, I think three issues a week would be a really good idea, >cuz I keep getting warnings from my internet provider, and I >don't wanna lose my internet axcess. >peace out, >bldfeast WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST...GET ALOOOONNNGG! ___________________________- > >From: Undead138@aol.com >Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:06:01 -0500 >Subject: BOBBY STEELE > >Ask Bobby If I can interview him for a 'zine "DEAD BY DAWN". Okay, BYE Sure. I'll email you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:57:25 -0500 From: She Subject: You and Me Does anybody have the 7" Danzig bootleg called You And Me? I've been trying to figure out the track listing for this single for a while. For some reason, some people list it as a single sided release with both songs You and Me and Trouble on Side 1, and sometimes I see it listed with one song on Side 1 and Trouble on Side 2. Any help would be appreciated. mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:55:19 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Jon Michaels on IRC!! Jon Michaels was Bobby Steele's Manager (I'm not sure of dates so don't ask) To make a long story short We've had him in the IRC channel a few times this week it was a blast. Jon will be back in #misfits on thursday night from 10pm to 1am Central Time I think?? Jon?? set your server to us.undernet.org when you log on type /join #misfits That's all there is to it. We will be running moderated so you won't be able to speak in the channel unless you are given a voice - so come up with some good questions!!! ok originally I was gonna post this whole Log file but It's just too big. I'll post what I thought was the most interesting dialog when Jon was in on Saturday undead without stating classified information - What's your take on the current bobby/jerry/glenn situation Yeah I have that 7" <^Undead^> i dont know about that but again I'll ask <^Undead^> bullet keeps stumping me....good job no problem <^Undead^> ummm I basically stated my position on that in my commentary in the bible....this business is the worst in the world...all you have is your rep. and if you dont stand up for it you are nothing <^Undead^> i think everyone should get paid...bobby will NEVER see any back royalties...but hopfully he will get some money for the box sets and vol 2 personally I like Bobby he seems like a great guy - but I thought he was out of line with his first post <^Undead^> what did he say? If I would have posted the response from Jerry though the shit really would have flew WOw <^Undead^> you have to realize that bobby steele is a man with about 15 years of pent up frustration on that subject I'd just like to see the bible kept out of it Yea this feud stuff has been pretty scary hey, wish Bobby happy birthday for me Not to mention the Bible is now about as long as the ORIGINAL Bible every week <|20Eyes|> heheh haha leave it to the lawyers <|20Eyes|> yea from me too undead I realise that he has 15 years of fustration but with no resolve wouldnt he be the adult in teh whole situation and move on and be recognized for his current work Hope the show rocks <^Undead^> there is no need for a fued...but there are a lot of unanswered questions and a lot of rumors that make bobby look bad so sometimes there has to be arguments to clairify things *** Parts: TVCazulty (~z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu) Fiend> that's a stupid comment you could say the same comment about the Misfits upon reflection probably true *** Parts: xeromenia (xero@ppp16.niag.localnet.com) <^Undead^> i still think glenn is hiding something as far as what? re: what <^Undead^> i wanna know why he would go out of his way to avoid talking to bobby <^Undead^> even as far as to hit me that's a valid point my take on Glenn is that of an egomaniacal liar & cheat but heh that's my opinion see thats where i have a conflict <^Undead^> glenn is 1 thing for sure and thats an alchoholic...that is a proven admitted fact i do take that comment into consideration, because i know who you are but i also like to see it from that person face to face <^Undead^> what comment? about cg's opinion <^Undead^> oh i mean, i like to talk to ppl face to face rather than get everything from hearsay but then again, who doesn't <^Undead^> I'd say CG knows a lot about the subject...we share at least 1 confidential common story you can only judge a man by how he treats his mates NOT by how he treats people off the street (fans in this case) yeah, i said i believe cg because i know who whe is good point cg <^Undead^> bullet that kind of attitude is the only kind to have about the misfits DONT BELEIVE ANYTHING YOU HEAR unless its from the person its about undead: you believe Danzig is an alcoholic still/ ? <^Undead^> i know he was in 1988 i knew he was back in the Misfits <^Undead^> well thats a track record * CrmsnGhst tilts one back in Honor of Glenn's liver * ^Undead^ laughs hehe Bacardi 151 and coke? Sam Adams Lager <^Undead^> I'll be right back I have something to take care of quick i see k <^Undead^> 151 and coke is glenns drink thats what bobby said Killians red her. for St Pattys day <^Undead^> yup its true <^Undead^> brb Flames are all we ever get inside this fuckin place Flames are all we ever get - Why can't we have a change of pace? Flames...Flames for Lunch Flames for Breakfast..Flames for Brunch The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ #misfits channel op find me on Undernet every night around 9:30 or so Nick = CrmsnGhst I'll be in #misfits (of course) anyone who can't figure out irc email me I'll help ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steev L." Subject: ... Hey, I think it would be a great idea if we had a Saturday or Sunday edition of the Misfits Bible. Nowadays, reading the whole thing seems to take about 1 hour of my time. Also, I saw an episode of Dream On where Martin's son comes home late and Martin asks him "Do you knwo what time it is?" "Yeah, it's 1:38". I am getting very pissed off about the number 138. It's everywhere. maybe I just notice it more, but that's a real strange coincidence considering 138 appears in so many places. -Steev ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Live Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:46:50 -0500 (EST) I have never been to a misfits show, hell I was just a little kid when they broke up. But I am wondering about several of their songs and if they were ever performed live at concerts. i just can't imagine them playing American nightmare for an audience. what is the story with that song anyway> Was glenn trying to make an elvis parody or something? Either way I love that one. some other songs that I question are spook city u.s.a, t.v casualty, static age, and theme for a jackal. Do you know the answer mark? I think that having the bible three times a week is a great idea. I am tired of everyone saying what their favourite fits songs are. So lets do something different. Tell me which misfits songs ( original or covers ) you like the least. Mine are : 1) Rat Fink 2) Return of the Fly 3) Cough/Cool Sincerely, Adam seven ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:54:58 -0500 From: Andrew Share Subject: a quicky OK, I am only askng this question because I don't know what back issue, if any, the answer appeared in. If it is too much of a hassle for anyone to answer it I understand. What is the Teenagers from Mars (liver versions) CD that appears in the Sessions catalog? Thanks Andrew Share St930419@pip.cc.brandeis.edu ****************************************************************** ***************"Gonic is the center of the USA."****************** ****************************** - Fly Spinach Fly****************** ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:46:51 +0000 (GMT) From: J Simms Subject: Leicester 3/14/96 Bradford 3/15/96 As far as university gigs go, they usually have a shit venue and shit sound. Unlucky for me and everyone else here, Leicester was no exception. Sardonica did the business and did it well. The guys put in a lot of effort, rewarded with only mediocre applause and they made way for the English Dogs. I remember seeing this band in about '87, playing on the same bill as VOIVOD and POSSESSED.....that show was legendary and it was only after a chat with Pinchie that I realised this was the same band!!! They've honed down to a 3 piece now and their sound has matured a little. It was good to see them again and they put on a good show. Once agin the crowd weren't really bothered and they vacated to make way for the 'fits. By this time the venue had filled a little but even so the pit at the front only contained 30 bodies - punks, goths and skin heads all wanting a piece of the action. The 'fits blasted on with Halloween and I thought "where are the vocals??" the sound was that shit!!! The guys struggled on in the face of adversity, Jerry running around like a lunatic, letting the crowd play his bass from time to time. Doyle had his head down, down strumming like it was going out of fashion and nearly taking my eye out at one point with his headstock!! The show blasted by, with only one interruption to try and turn everything down a little to let Michale shine through a bit better in the mix but it didn't make much difference. All too soon it was over, I think even the guys were pissed with the sound as they could only stand to do one set of encores. After the show they all took the time to chat with fans, sign stuff and pose for photos....something which your average rockstar assholes would never do. I took the time to shoot the shit with Jerry, talking about the sound and stuff, and arranging a few things for the next night. I spent early friday evening with Kenny, Jerry and Corey....talking about the past, the tour etc. I'd brought a stack of sleeves to get signed and Jerry patiently waded through 'em. I was so excited about seeing the show, Rio's is the bees knees as a venue, they have an excellent PA and the stage is spacious. Tonight would be special. It was packed too, around 400 people jammed in......and lots of familiar faces as I'd spent the past 4 weeks flyering my ass off around Yorkshire. Sardonica and the Dogs played a blinder, with the advantage of sound it was easy to get in a groove and the punkers at the front seemed to like 'em too!!! But everyone was here for one thing and one thing only......and the place went apeshit. Once the band let rip it was like an explosion in a confined space....a wall of noise and white light, a sea of bodies in a heaving mass. As the band had a stage too (the one in Leicester being no more than one foot off the ground!!!) the divers had their fun too. Jerry and Doyle are complete opposites on stage...Jerry looks like a characature, his panda eyes and big grin. People climb on stage and fuck with him, he loves it!!! He lets them play his bass, sing in his mic, hell even pull his hair!!! He just laughs it off. Doyle on the other hand keeps his head down and a grimace on his face. People try and fuck with him too, anyone gets in his way and they get a really evil look like "get the fuck away from me, cunt" so he gets left alone to pound out his riffs..... even when he only had 3 strings left. I had reservations about the band being called the Misfits and the new singer but fuck that, these guys rule!!!!! Michale can do the job, and he does it exceptionally well. He fits in on all levels, voice, looks.....even muscles. He has attitude too, off stage he is polite and personable...on it he he's mean and brooding. On several occasions he nearly got dragged in at the front, stage security having a hard job keeping him on his feet for the duration. At one point some guy who'd been giving him a hard time pushed it too far. Michale spiked him in the eye!!!! After 80 minutes and 3 encores they left the stage, worn out but happy. Jerry leaped down into the crowd, garbbed me by the shoulders and asked ME "Was that ok??". I just grinned and said "fuckin' yeah" and he grinned too and gave me a big sweaty hug.....and it wasn't bad!!!!!! I had to split soon after, but Michale and the guy's were still going strong. They were under seige at the T-shirt stand for autographs, photos and a lot of kissing!!!!! UNREAL. Is the world big enough to hold Danzig AND the Misfits after a pounding like this ??? I don't know, but if it isn't......Glenn, you better watch your ass!!!!!! Are you guys in for a treat!! Uncle Jack. PS Yannis, email me soon and we'll sort something out. PPS Mark Kennedy...........thanks a lot, man!!!!! You know what for. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:58:10 +0000 (GMT) From: J Simms Subject: UK honours list Jerry asked me to thank the following for their unwavering help and support above and beyond the call of duty:- **Edinburgh - Adam **Birmingham - Naz **Leicester - Yannis **Bradford - Jack Also Loz and his "un-named" brother.....location uncertain. Jerry also sends his abject apologies to all the Birmingham fiends for what can only be described as the biggest fuck-up ever. He is truely sorry and is trying to organise something special for you all to reward you for your patience. U.J. ------------------------------ From: jschulz@inwave.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 02:15:13 -0600 Subject: Jon Michaels in IRC Hey Fiends, For those of you that dont know yet, Jon Michaels (Bobby Steele's former manager, and poster in the last Bible) has been appearing in IRC for Q&A sessions. He really is a great guy, and a wealth of Misfits information. If you have questions about Bobby Steele, the Undead, or the Misfits, this is the guy to talk to. He will be appearing again in #Misfits on Thursday night from 10pm-1am central. If you havent gotten off your lazy asses and gotten into #Misfits yet (there are 600 of you out there) NOW is the time to get in. We are also working to get Bobby Steele into IRC, so this is an important time for our channel. Show your support and come to the Q & A session. See ya there if anyonw has problems getting into the Undernet IRC network, E-mail me, or Crimson Ghost, or check out the information section on the #Misfits IRC homepage. Later -- 20Eyes #Misfits Undernet channel OP us.undernet.org All Fiends WELCOME! See ya there! ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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To y'all in IRC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:27:58 -0500 From: melvin101@ix.netcom.com Subject: John Michaels This is for John Michaels, the former Undead manager. You have the nerve to say the following - "Don't believe anything about anybody unless you hear it from that person" - and then YOU go on to spread the trashiest of rumors about Glenn Danzig being an alcoholic... What the fuck do you know? And why should we believe anything you say about Bobby Steele or anyone for that matter, when YOU say not to believe anything unless it's heard directly from that person? Are you a hypocrite? And then you prance around like an Undead/Misfits know-it-all when you don't know the answer to some basic questions on the web page... What makes you any more special than others on this mailing list that also know the band? "... you just think it looks cool..." - Ian MacKye from "In My Eyes" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:06:41 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #153 I think that Bobby should be banned from the page. He is a pathetic sack o' shit that shouldn't be considered anything but a loser. The same goes for Mark and Crimson Ghost. Wes P.S. I still think that there is a flame of love for us Jaid. ------------------------------ From: cbmed@cdx.net Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:14:23 -0500 Subject: Look what I found! Look what I found! Globe and Mail November 5 1988 NEWSFLASH Misfit Serial Killer On the Loose Canadian Free Press The Royal Canadian Mounted Police are tight lipped on reported rumours of a serial killer in Canada. Five murders, all related to the lyrics of the punk rock group The Misfits, have occured in four different provinces. The first case involved a girl, from Calgary, Alberta, named Helen Delambre, also the name of the actress in Return of the Fly. Her decapitated body was found in a hotel room, with her skull nailed to the wall. Oddly enough, the hotel is reffered to by local prostitutes, as the Devil's Whorehouse. The second case was a Hamilton, Ontario resident named Henry Garfield, the original name of punk godfather Henry Rollins. He was found in the bathroom, and was stabbed 138 times. The bathroom mirror was also painted black. Police also found a note that read; "all he did was scream and growl!", which was a reference to a preformance Rollins had with the Misfits. The third victim was from Brandon, Manitoba, named Vincent Price, also the name of a horror legend who also starred in Return of the Fly. The man was forced to consume Candy Apples with razor blades in them. When police came to the scene, there was a dead cat hanging from a telephone pole, outside the victims house. The murder occured on Halloween of 1987. The fourth victim, Sherri Crimson, from Hull, Quebec, was a Marilyn Monroe impersonator. She was found on August 5, of this year, and had died from head trauma from being smashed in the cranium with a television. She was also found in the same state as Marilyn Monroe, who was killed August 5, 1962. The fifth, and most recent victim, was a prison gaurd in London, Ontario. The murder occured on Halloween of this year, the second Halloween massacre. He was burried in a grave, completely covered except his face, which was clean, and covered with 20 cutout eyeballs. He had been fed germacide, and police speculate that he died of a coranary. All of the cases are related to the lyrics of the band the Misfits who broke up in 1983. Police where informed, from a payphone, of each murder at exactly 1:38 the next morning, by the murderer. Glenn Danzig, the Misfits former lead singer, has been called in for questioning. Anyone with any hints is advised to call the RCMP at 1-800-679-8888. ------------------------------ Subject: trubiute album Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:19:17 -0500 (EST) From: Eric J Peterson I just read that type-o-negative will be recording vampira for an upcomming misfits trubite album on caroline. I got this information from the concrete forum foundation page. for anyone not familiar with the fourms foundations they are a music industry orginaztion who follows hard/ heavy music. They publish the charts for hard and heavy music. By the way the box set is number one on their chart of indie lable release sales. later E.P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:07:14 -0500 From: She Subject: last issue Oh fiends, i forgot to mention that the Bible is now a Mon/Wed/Friday thing. I think that will reduce the issue size somewhat. Someone asked about the live versions from the Teenagers From Mars single. During the summer a Teenagers From Mars 7" was planned for Sept 19, 1995 release. It was to be a one-sided colored vinyl 7" and the CD version was going to have 2 bonus live tracks from the Max's KC show that Jerry and Doyle overdubbed. Caroline got scared off by Glenn near the end of August and the project was cancelled. This OF COURSE can be found in the discography on the web page. Jon Michaels - welcome aboard. I find it interesting that you say that we shouldn't believe anything we hear about anyone unless it's from that person and then you go ahead and call Glenn Danzig an alcoholic. I don't know where you get your info, but Glenn has been saying in interviews since '82 that he is straightedge and doesn't drink, etc. He also admits to getting drunk on several incidents (the '88 tour with Metallica being one of them) but I don't think that's any good reason to spread such RUMORS. And some of you wonder why Glenn Danzig doesn't want to talk about the Misfits... Come on people - THINK. Glenn Danzig is out for success on his own terms. He continuously does what he things is best for HIMSELF. He has also stated several times that he thinks the work he is currently doing is his best ever. If you were Glenn, would you want to be bothered by a bunch of people from 15 years ago who just want to suck money out of you and waste your time? NO! There's no mystery... it's all common sense. So many people on this mailing list seem to think that Glenn is living in his own shadow, that his best work was with the Misfits, and that he knows this.... I happen to disagree 100% and I'm sure that the people who actually know him NOW, like Steve Zing and Elizabeth Bouras will agree. He's doing only what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants. If he felt that he is less now than he was before, don't you think he'd do something? He has worked for more than 20 years to get where he is and he did it all his own way. Anyone can claim that one of his songs or bands are better than the other... this is opinion and is very useless. I like the Misfits the best, EVB likes Samhain, and Brett likes Danzig. Who cares? Glenn likes what he's doing now, otherwise he'd be doing something else. This is ridiculous. I shouldn't have to 'defend' this man... In other news, Happy 40th Bday to Bobby (it was Monday) and Happy 21st bday to Michale (tomorrow, March 21st). mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:38:34 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: Chris Myers' post last issue Chris suggested an EP/album of unreleased Danzig stuff... I am BEGGING anyone on this list to mention this to Glenn if you meet him at a future Danzig show. This is the tactic that got the music on Black Aria released, so who knows... BTW Chris, in addition to the songs on the page and "Cold, Cold Rain" (recorded for Lucifuge) there is one from the Danzig 4p sessions called "Pain is a Loving Thing", as Eerie informed me. This was played on the Danzig hotline the week before Eerie put "Cold, Cold Rain" on. There are also other versions of "Trouble", "When Death Had No Name", and supposedly "I'm the One", unfortunately, we will probably never hear these. like you said Liz, maybe a Danzig box set in 15 years... -Brett "and I want it, and I need it..." ------------------------------ From: GothikEye@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:22:26 -0500 Subject: hmm i just found this thing and i got my 1st bible today(#153) i really enjoy it, but it's really long i want to find the Earth A.D. cd and the Evilive cd, but i can only get them on tape can anyone help? where can you get the boxed set? how much? ------------------------------ Subject: hey bobby Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 18:09:26 EST From: Blood Feast whoa, bobby. you don't have to get so mad at me. I was just posting my opinion, and I thought I had made it quite evident that I didn't want to offend you, but anyway, I live in richmond, va. I can walk one half a block to the grocery store. I live with three other people in a two bedroom house for $375 a month. that makes my rent $93 a month ( I think, I'm not good with math). I am not saying that you don't have the right to live wherever you want, I'm just saying that with $500 a month I would not consider myself "broke". I'm not some snotty college brat like you assume, either(well I guess I am kinda snotty) . I dropped out of college for two years, and after seeing what the real world was like I decided to go back so I could get a decent job. Okay? So don't get so mad at me. I would love to get along with everyone here, but I've learned (especially on irc) that if you don't agree with what everyone says, most people aren't very willing to try. Sorry I made you so mad. peeas out, bloodfeast ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:03:50 -0500 (EST) From: "William P. Musso" Subject: DOA? I called the Opera House in Toronto to find out when the Misfits/DOA tickets were going on sale. The guy on the phone told me that he thought DOA was no longer on the bill. Does anyone know why? What is this band Sardonica like? ---Psycho Billy ------------------------------ From: Sleepycore@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:13:11 -0500 ally got a copy of the new Misfits album "Thrall-Demonsweatlive." It's amazing!! They must have recorded it before Michale Graves was in the band. Danzig's voice is more powerful and "manly" than ever and Doyle and Jerry's playing is much more polished. I'm very impressed!! Question: why did Doyle and Jerry use "pen names" on the album like they did with Kryst ("Mo the Great")? This album is INTENSE!! -Bobby Lust ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 23:23:00 -0500 Subject: Doyle I don't remember exactly who it was (I think it was one of the European fiends who went to one of the shows) but someone was mentioning Doyle's apparent reluctance to socialize with the fans. I've met Doyle on several occasions and his withdrawn disposition isn't because he has an attitude. It's just because he's quiet. He's not an avid talker like Jerry. He's happy to talk to you if you have a question but just generally keeps to himself. Also, I guess since Jerry is both the spokesperson for the band as well as Doyle's older brother, Doyle just lets Jerry do the talking. At last October's Chiller show, a few guys working at the Misfits table were joking around about Doyle doing interviews with Jerry of the various horror stars. They did impressions of him by just sitting there with a fiendish scowl on his face. Even with the cartoon versions I've seen of them from their comic book, Doyle is drawn without a mouth entirely and in one panel where he has to talk, he is given a thought balloon instead of a dialogue one. If you look at the videos of their live shows way back, while Jerry might jump up and down and all around and scream and yell, Doyle just plays his guitar. It's just the way he is, I guess. So if he doesn't say much, it's not because he's not into it or doesn't want to speak to you, he's just that way. Anyway, I got my tickets to the Stone Pony show. Two tickets plus the Ticketmaster charges cost about $30. Which isn't too bad. I hope to see a lot of you fiends there ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: J.Baldry@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:43:29 GMT Subject: The Shocking Return Of... >From the London show (attended by around 1500 people) Jerry asked me to give major thanks to the following people: Adam, Edinburgh Naz, Birmingham Yannis, Leicester Jack Simms, Bradford He wanted all the UK fans to know how overwhelmed the band was at the reception they had received and the hospitality they'd been shown... he also said that they will 'without any doubt' be back soon. Eric: There are Earth AD shirts but they are brand new and have never been available before now... Jerry handed me one and sure enough it is copyrighted 1996. I think there are a few of these floating around the UK as Jerry said he'd given a few out on the tour... they are not for sale yet though. Birmingham ticket holders: Jerry explained the whole thing to me... apparently the band were totally unaware of the 11pm curfew and were held up through no fault of their own. They had the power pulled during Halloween and as Jerry said 'the Misfits can hardly do an acoustic show!' so they had to blow the show off. However, Jerry said that the next show in Birmingham will be FREE to anyone who wants to show up (even if people redeemed their tickets at the box office). The people who mentioned the spiked drum kit may be interested to know that the kit used on the Euro tour is HALF the size of the one that will be used on the US tour. For the would be roadies among you, the drums have NO cases! They just stack them at the front of the truck and wedge them in with amps and cabs. BTW, Jerry had a huge whole in his left hand caused by the spikes on the drums and apparently played one show in bandages! If anyone is interested, I have a fully signed Euro tour poster that I'll mail to the first person who can tell me which soft drink is Jerry's favorite... I'd rather this was won by a US fiend seeing as most UK fiends would (or should ) have got stuff signed anyway. Mail me your answer and mailing address if you want the poster. I'd like to thank Mark for all his help and arrangements regarding the tour and want to let you know that Jerry is totally committed to the Bible and the fiends on it... Julian ------------------------------ From: Mike Faram Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:58:31 GMT Subject: Misfits in London Well, I've just read Bible#153 and didn't see anything about the London gig, so here I go. BIRMINGHAM Unfortunately I was one of those who attended the Birmingham 'fuck- up' too. Such a disappointment, but it was great to meet the band at the end even though we were too pissed up to make good conversation, and maybe a bit disillusioned too. Although it sounds like it was due to a sequence of unfortunate events & not actually their fault. Anyway, they seem like such a nice lot, handing stuff out, signing stuff etc. and generally chatting to the fans. And the fans seemed pretty tolerant of the whole situation too! If only they'd played! The support bands were pretty good anyway. English Dogs were as good as always (an old Brit punk band). Look out for them. LONDON Having been told we'd be on the guest list for London we went up there on Sunday. Only to find that we weren't on the list at all! Although I think this time they'd had problems with the venue being picky about the number of guests or something. Anyway, we got tickets OK and went in. And it was worth it! The London event was an 'all dayer' with several other 'not very well known' bands playing throughout the afternoon. Maybe it would've benefitted from having a few more 'old British punk bands' playing. Just a suggestion for next time. The place was half empty. But enjoyed by those who were there - and will probably fetch larger crowds on 'the next tour' when people have read the reviews. The Misfits do such a good stage show. So aggressive. Jerry & Doyle looking like a couple of warriors. Michale taunting the crowd and diving off the stage regularly to join them. Inviting the audience to join him on stage and then laughing as they we're grappled to the ground by the bouncers. Jerry, with similar antics, pushing his mike stand over to the audience and then watching the bouncers struggle to fight the audience off and retrieve it. I don't remember exactly what they played, but they put on such a good show. And Michale fits in perfectly. We're these really the same people we met in Birmingham?? Seems hard to believe. I'll send the photo's into Mark when they're done (if you like). One comment - as made by others - many complained that they couldn't hear Michales' mike. Maybe needed turning up. Something for next time. Anyway - well done Michale! You're in. The comment 'they don't need Danzig' was made by many. And I'd go with this. And if you want a 'pre gig' Misfits update - chat to Corey the T-shirt man. Anway - enough from me. A much travelled fiend..... Mike F... p.s. When are they coming back ? Maybe they'll play Bristol 'Fleece & Firkin' or Newport 'TJ's' next time. Very suitable venues and closer to Cardiff. Good response guaranteed!! ------------------------------ From: GOATFIT@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:51:45 -0500 Subject: Bootleggs for sale I have the following Misfits bootleggs for sale. If you are interested, e-mail me with an offer, the person with the highest offer will get it! 7"s The Misfits-"Fiend Club"-blue sleeve, #160/300 The Misfits-"Static Age"-Black, white, and green sleeve,turquoise vinyl The Misfits-"Famous Misfits of Filmland"-black and white sleeve,white vinyl 12"s The Misfits-"Attitude"-2 live sets e-mail GOATFIT@aol.com later kiddies sXe-fiend---goatboy---adam kriney---lipmonger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:06:28 -0800 (PST) From: PRH Subject: glenn danzig:crackpot or visionary? i have formulated a theory about all of this. i would like to pontificate/proselytize about all this. may i use your forum? the basis of it would be: if glenn is such a moneygrubbing whore, why would he do punk when he got his ass kicked doing it and nobody wanted to buy it? then when punk sort of became vogue..ala talking heads etc, he was doing experimental stuff and dumping buckets of blood over his head(Samhain)rather than appear attractive or commercial. Then when that seems to go somewhere in the public eye (college radio upswing) he abandoned that for heavy metal, the 1988 version of the toilet. Became superreligous when that made the consumer gag, and now that he has achieved a modicum of success, managed to alienate everyone and everything in a position to help him. I think he is anything BUT a sellout, and i would like to promote this view. whatta ya think, or has it been done? (i promise to try and be more coherent in the future) on a different subject: what do you know about a show where the Misfits opened for Patti Smith? i remember it happening, but cant recall where or when, it was very early on, i know. (she hated them, by the way). "you wont get caught if you don't got thought in your head"-c.m. manson but of course! patricia~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````` nrwidow@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:16:58 -0500 Subject: Re: No Subject >Subject: hey bobby >To: misfits@virginia.edu >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 18:09:26 EST >From: Blood Feast > >whoa, bobby. you don't have to get so mad at me. I was just >posting my opinion, and I thought I had made it quite evident >that I didn't want to offend you, but anyway, I live in >richmond, va. I can walk one half a block to the grocery store. >I live with three other people in a two bedroom house for $375 >a month. that makes my rent $93 a month ( I think, I'm not good >with math). I am not saying that you don't have the right to >live wherever you want, I'm just saying that with $500 a month >I would not consider myself "broke". Sorry. It's just that your comment re:lowering my cost of living was really insensitive. Still, living with three other people is a much different situation than living on your own, paying the full electric bill etc... Your roomates are virtually helping you out. I've though of moving to Richmond. I didn't know things were that cheap, but now that you've posted that fact here, i can picture a sea of FIENDS rushing into town and driving the peoperty values up (like Ross Perot's "sucking sound"). You're lucky if you can maintain that situation for any period of time. I've been at the same place since 1978. If I had to depend on any roomates, I'd probably on the street now. But, ya know...once you have a good taste of New York City, it's almost impossible to live anywhere else. I didn't mean to piss anybody off by coming on here, but you just can't have control over how someone reacts to everything you say. Try saying something nice to a feminist on the street, like "hi, nice day". There's a good chance she'll react like you're a rapist, or say something fucked up back at you. I appreciate your intentions. > I'm not some snotty >college brat like you assume, either(well I guess I am kinda >snotty) . I told ya. > I dropped out of college for two years, and after >seeing what the real world was like I decided to go back so > I could get a decent job. Okay? So don't get so mad at me. >I would love to get along with everyone here, but I've learned >(especially on irc) that if you don't agree with what everyone >says, most people aren't very willing to try. I can relate to that... >Sorry I made you >so mad. Apology accepted. Likewise here. I hope you got to know me a little better. Hey - I'm allowed to get pissed. Like LEE VING once told me "if ya can't piss 'em off; you're not doin' it right". >peeas out, Someone translate this for me. I'm not up on email terminology. >From: Jason Appleby >Subject: to Bobby > >Bobby, > >Happy Birthday! > >tell us some good stories about the Misfit's days, you said they were >evil and that you don't have to worry about statutes of limitations, >tell us, what evil shit did you guys used to do? >- >-- >Jason Appleby >Toronto, Canada >jay@interlog.com Jason, I can only really speak in general about MISFITS shit, because I don't want to 'slander' anyone, but Here's a funny story relating to the heavy partying we were involved in. We used to hang out with "SPACELY" (R.I.P.). He was the editor, or publisher of PUNK magazine. One night, we were hanging out at our manager, George's loft apartment, getting fucked up - drinking and smoking weed. After awhile Spacely went unconcious. We tried everything to revive him; slapping him, shaking him, cold water...Nothing worked. Then George had an idea! He ran out of the apartment, and came back a while later with a quart of beer. He held the bottle under Spacely's nose, and cracked the bottle open. As soon as the smell of a freshly opened beer hit his nose, Spacely jumped up, grabbed the bottle - and started drinking as if nothing had ever happened. Another story I remember was on our second trip to Bethlehem,PA. We played a place called the 4th ST SALOON. As usual, the crowd got out of hand at the end of the set and destroyed the place. The owners of the place freaked and started chasing everyone out with baseball bats or clubs - maybe the legs of the broken tables. Then they didn't want to pay us. We wound up not getting any money, but we walked out with a couple cases of beer and a few bottles of liquor. We stayed at a place called the PATIO COURT HOTEL, on the outskirts of Quakertown. Between THE MISFITS, and HELLBENT we must've taken up about five rooms. I'm sure the sight of all these punks in a small quiet hick town was pretty upsetting. I lived there last year, and they still couldn't handle me. We were having puking contests, a bunch of other people with us were junkies. I don't know what kind of chaos was going on in the other rooms, but we had to get out of there fast the next morning. Beds were broken, lamps were smashed, and some of the junkies threw their needles in the swimming pool. When I think about it now, it probably made the news out there. This was probably the biggest thing that happened out there at the time. I was always at MAX's, always fucked up - with a capital F, and generally causing mischief. Fortunately for MAX's, it was a rare ocaision for all the MISFITS to be there together. We were more than rowdy. Another gig I can rmember was on March28,''79. Again, when it got to ATTITUDE the crowd went nuts - tables, chairs and bottles flying. Just as we started playing, a bouncer put a tray with four glasses of water next to me. I'm dodging flying everything, a chair comes toward Jerry, he kicks it back out and it hits a girl - a good friend of the band. I pick up a glass, planning to just throw the water, and the glass slips out of my hand. I think nothing of it. We finish - and go up to our dressing room, unaware of the ambulances and police cars lining up outside. So, we're just sitting in the dressing revelling over another great show, and two cops walk in. They look at me nad ask, "are you in the band?". "yeah". "What do you play?" "I'm the guitarist". "you're under arrest". Now my first thought is that I sold some pot to an undercover cop, so I ask "what for?". Cop say, "Assault" Well I know I never laid a hand on anyone, so I get up and let them handcuff me. Then I realize that I have a load of pot hidden in the lining of my jacket, so I'm trying to spot my girlfriend as I'm being led out so I can give her my jacket. No such luck. The cops take me to the hospital, where this guy with a bandage on his arm looks at me and says "yeah, that's him" and I'm off to the police station. As I'm trying to contort myself and get the pot out of my jacket to stuff under the seat; one of the cops turns around and says, "if you have anything on you we shouldn't know about, when we get to the station tell the desk sergeant that you have to go to the bathroom. Whatever you do in there is your business. You won't get searched until we take you down for booking." So that's what I did. Then they drove to the corner of Third Ave and 14th St and pulled over. "Have you eaten anything tonight?" "No". "We'll be right back" And the fuckers bought me dinner! I'm thinking this can't be real. when we get to Central Booking, The only other time they'd seen a punk was when they arrested SID. They can't believe this kid, black spikey hair, leather pants that you gotta be poured into - they're so tight, and a red Twilight Zone T-shirt. I was photographed and then brought into a room for a strip-search. They took one looks at my pants and decided I couldn't possibly hide anything in there. I got put in a cell without anyone checking my jacket. They just made me take off all my badges and spikes, and told me I couldn't get my spikes back because I was charged with assault. the cop that arrested me argued with the guy, and I was promised that I'd get EVERYTHING back when I was released. I was booked and held for arraignment on Friday. Thursday morning, I was brought to court and held in a holding cell - the only white boy. I wasn't too popular until I realized that everybody was scroungeing for cigarette butts. I had a pack of rolling papers, so I told my cellmates to break up the stubs they were smoking and roll new cigarettes. It was like I was a hero. It turned out that the arresting officer had a dentist appointment on Friday and he didn't want to miss it on my account, so here hire a lawyer to get me arraigned on Thursday. After my arraignment, he drove me back to MAX's. I'm gonna end it here, but if you wanna hear how this turned out - buy my book (1 800-BOBTALKS), or just ask. I have to try to keep these short. I can't even open the last two bibles - they're so big. I'll try to think of some other 'scandals' How about the time I brought the Secret Service to MAX's and created an international incident? ------------------------------ From: "T.M. Korhonen" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:43:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: U.K. gigs I saw the Misfits in Leicester and in London (17/3). Unfortunately, I probably missed the best gig: Bradford. As Yannis and 'Ungle Jack' already wrote, the Misfits were excellent! And even I had some reservations...it all was so good. Also Mike is a brilliant and energetic singer and character on the stage. (and looks completely different with his loose jeans and winter coat after the show..) As J. Simms said, the audience (?) and the venue in Leicester weren't best possible, but it wasn't that bad, was it? At least I enjoyed myself a lot and so did the band as well. At least that's what they said to me after the gig (and, well, after that horrible B'ham gig). But (Yannis!!) there were definitely less than 500 people in Leicester, 200 at most. London gig was in the big venue, Astoria. There were 7 supporting bands...and most of them rather boring... English Dogs were the best one of those I saw (I didn't see Sardonica, but at least they are really nice persons as well!). I end up spending time in the dressing room with Chud, Jerry, Michale, Doyle and the other ones before their set 'cos the other bands and the whole athmosphere in the venue were depressing. It was good that a lot more people had come in while I was away. the gig itself was at least as good as Leicester one, but of course different due to big stage and venue that was packed. The audience was a bit 'lazy' even if the gig was good. The Misfits did one encore and walked off. This time there was no 'signing-session' after the gig. I was taking pics for Atomic and Metal Hammer (and Leicester University Student's union paper) and got some really good shots! I had really good time with the Misfits and i wish i see them again one day. I was planning to go to see them in Barcelona again, but I think I leave it (lack of money). Anyway, it was good to see so many people enjoying the gigs and let's hope you see pics i've taken somewhere (Jerry + Chud took some of them , too and I've promised to send some more to them). see you soon again!!!!! love, tiina ('the purple hair') ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:45:28 GMT0BST Subject: London Show I hate to say it. I REALLY hate to admit it. But the NEW Misfits are not THE Misfits w/out Danzig. They are entertaining, but without Danzig they are going to need a musical engineer to control the effects and mix at their shows. Every song sounded the same to the point the at time I couldn't tell what a song was unless I read Michale's lips. This coming from someone who has heard these songs hundreds of times. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 19:30:59 0800 From: Vince Redman Subject: (no subject) how come there is no music clips available on the DANZIG page ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:06:37 -0500 From: "Evil is as Evil Does...." <02tjthompson@bsuvc.bsu.edu> Subject: Box Sets Since I seem to be in a box set mood (I've bought 3 box sets over the last 9 months), I was wondering if anyone (Mark? EVB?) has heard any news on the Samhain Box. I know that it got delayed around Halloween last year, is it coming soon, or perhaps next Halloween? Any news would be appreciated. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:11:41 -0600 From: Eric Gulbrandsen Subject: More Stuff Hello again fellow fiends, I've been busy and haven't had time to contribute to the bible lately. First off the box rules, Nuff said! Second have any of you heard the Who Killed Marilyn single versions of Spook City and Who Killed Marilyn? They are way cool, the Spook city from that version is cooler than the one in the set. One idea that I've been working on for some time, just thoughts are movies about the Misfits, such as the origin of "Doyle" etc... Some type of horror, b-type flick that would be cool to do. I'm working with some ideas but if anyone has ideas to contribute please do so. I've had some experience with storyboarding for screenshots and could type up a script and storyboard for these ideas, I haven't brought up the ideas to the band yet, have to write them again soon. Here's some of my ideas: Jerry from another planet, and the origins & stuff Doyle from some disaster that caused him to mutate to his superhuman form Chud from an iceberg that thawed Michale from the center of the earth, and surfaced to DOMINATE ????????????/ the ideas could be endless I think that this would be cool to see what everybody comes up with. I kind of got the idea of the band doing the horror flick thing from "KISS meets the Phantom of the Park" Last off anyone that I have promised a list of the stuff that I have to trade I will get this stuff to them either this Friday or next Monday, sorry I've been really busy. That's all for now, Later Gulliver !!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@ "You cannot fight evil with a macaroni duck" -Arthur (The Tick) egulbrandsen@foxvalley.tec.wi.us !!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@####!!!!@@@@ ------------------------------ From: HBKBOBA@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:46:31 -0500 Subject: MisFiTs: There just fuckin' cool! Cool! Indiana Jones 1 is on. Oh, I hate TBS. Ted Turner sucks. Anyway, if your still reading, I just picked up a couple copies of the "june" issue of 'Metal Maniacs'. I've never bought a "rock" mag before but this seemed relevent to my life & the Bible. I was buying a hot dog at the 7-11 1/2 block from my school. (they make a shit load of cash, obviously!) As I put Fancy Ketsup on it my friend Jason yelled "Whoa!! Bob, MISFITS!!!" Of course I darted to the mag rack to see. There they were. A pic of the MisFiTs w/Vampira (Glenn looking short & cute, Shit eating smile on the mug) New pics of MisFiTs at the pilot show. A pic of mikey Graves. And ofcourse, a cool article. (no I'm not printing it) I'm not going to put my opinion on some of the things said in the article. I don't want a 15 issue, 3000 page argument goin' on here. Anyhow, a few more points...1. Verticle lists are a waste of space... 2. Glenn Danzig is the coolest fucker in the music world... 3. I got a Danzig Skull Neckless... 4. Does any know of the whereabouts of the Detriot show. I gotta fucking know. I must be there!... 5.heres a new parody song... We Bite ----------- We walk the streets, I'm out to get some We bite Just a feast of Whore & Cum We Bite Our Whores live for pleasure We Bite What the fucks a endeavor? We Bite When I shoot my cum I hit your throat My cum I hit your throat I shoot my cum I hit your throat I hit your throooat! We Bite... HBK Bob Ayotte ---Insert lyric here--- (ex. Metamorphoses lycanthropie Possunt inquam) ------------------------------ From: Ralph Herbert Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:00:17 +0100 Subject: records wanted Hi. Yes, I realize that this post in not in the least Misfits/Samhain/Danzig related, but hey, sue me! Anyway, I'm looking for the following records (vinyl only): Beowulf - 1st lp on Suicidal Records Uncle Slam - Say Uncle plus any other live-tapes, demos, rare records etc. by all those mid-late 80s Venice bands like Excel, No Mercy, Uncle Slam or Beowulf. Please contact me if you have any of these items for sale. herberrh@track.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 05:50:49 -0500 From: Jaid Subject: Tickets Has anyone gotten their tickets to the shows yet ? I called TicketMaster a few days ago and they knew nothing about it. Can anyone shed any light on this one?? I want to hit a few shows on the coast but i can't just drive to each club just to get tickets. Mark , do know the deal with this one? love and 20 lashes, Jaid The ice is thin, come on dive in, underneath my lucid skin, the cold is lost, forgotten... - s. mclauchlan ------------------------------ From: Mark Anthony Condick Subject: Misfit London Date Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:28:43 -0000 I waited 12 long years to see the Misfits play again. I had to travel = about 175 miles to see them play in London, I thought they might be a = let down after all these years waiting. I got to London gig about 4 PM = it was half empty. Bands after bands came on play then left. The = anticipation was killing me waiting for them, they came on about 9 PM = ish (now the place was packed with people.) They ripped onto the stage = with such energy, I was shocked I good Michale Graves was he was just = like a young Glenn his voice was just like his. He had a very good = stage present jumping into the crowds. Jerry Leading Michale into each = song by going 1 2 3 GO, Song after song with no break in them they = played all the classic like She, Skulls, Die Die my darling, Mommy, can = I go out to kill to night, Children In heat, Devils Whorehouse, = Halloween, Ghouls night out, I turn into a Zombie, Teenagers from mars, = Vampira, Static age, Return of the fly, 20 Eyes, Death comes ripping, We = are 138, London dungeon plus more also they played Hunger. The set = lasted about Hour. It was EXCELLENCE the only problem was the sound was = bad and the Bass was too up front louder than the vocal, and I wait = over hour to talk to the band in which I still didn't meet them.=20 MARK ------------------------------ From: Bruce Lee Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:38:12 -5 Subject: Uneasy Eerie... Hey, I'm not sure that Caroline mentioned this last time, but the Eerie Von/Mike Morance album, "Uneasy Listening" is coming out on June 18... (they said late June/early July..) How do I know this? Eerie e-mailed me today... also, Eeire's new group, BIGHOUSE is gonna start playing gigs soon, so watch for 'em (he described them as a blues/rock sort of thing... ). Mark. ------------------------------------------------ "We can punch and kick his carcass, Who can throw his head the farthest? White trash join us, stop the mennace, Evil mongoloid, Rocky Dennis!" -"Rocky Dennis Attack" The Ninjas Mark Nance- mnance@marsh.vinu.edu ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 23:39:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steev L." Subject: To y'all in IRC Welp, apparently I won't be stopping by in IRC for awhile cuz I've got too much crap to do. Also, the account I use to get to IRC got messed up and won't be fixed for about a week or so...just letting all you IRCFiends know that I'm still alive..... ;) Later, Steev (SteevL on IRC) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 23:50:58 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Wes Thomas (The Douche Bag) O1wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Said:: >I want my pick Crimson Ghost. You can kiss my ass cause I ain't sending you one - Fucknuts >Lord B says that he'll buy everyone two picks for 3$ >and that 1/2 of the money is going to help the homeless. And LordB better not even think about givin you the time of day You are an ignorant asswipe - I could only hope that your mother died immediately after giving birth to you - I would hate the thought of more inbred idiots such as yourself running around Flames are all we ever get inside this fuckin place Flames are all we ever get - Why can't we have a change of pace? Flames...Flames for Lunch Flames for Breakfast..Flames for Brunch The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ #misfits channel op find me on Undernet every night around 9:30 or so Nick = CrmsnGhst I'll be in #misfits (of course) anyone who can't figure out irc email me I'll help ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Bobby's saga Hell on earth - the Misfits wreck Germ-any! re: the last one the Misfits in Stuttgart Misfits in Amsterdam New Tune?? Pick offer #misfits is a bed of losers Misfits Bible, #154 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lee Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:10:40 -5 Subject: Rocky Dennis Attack! The Shocking Return of the Ninjas! The Ninjas homepage is up and running again, and I've made many improvements... if you've never checked it out, go to it! There's a link from Mark's Bible page or you can just type in: http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~pchienjr/ninjas/brucelee.htm There are a few glitches that I'm still working on, but nothing that'll deter you from visiting every week. Speical thanks to Peter Chien of the Punk List for making it all possible... again. Mark. ------------------------------------------------ "We can punch and kick his carcass, Who can throw his head the farthest? White trash join us, stop the mennace, Evil mongoloid, Rocky Dennis!" -"Rocky Dennis Attack" The Ninjas Mark Nance- mnance@marsh.vinu.edu ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: GOATFIT@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:28:09 -0500 Subject: Boy are you guys gonna be jealous Boy are you guys gonna all be jealous- The other day, I was in a local Thrift shop, just looking for some new pants, and I see a box full of used Video cassettes, so I start to look through them, and I find out that they are all BETA (remember BETA from years ago!!!! ), and I start to wonder if there are any Misfits related videos in there, and lo and behold, wehat do I find?-- I found C.H.U.D. boy was I ever happy, in fact it was the happiest day of my life, ever, really, I am not kidding, not even for a minute, nope.... I know that all you motherfuckin bitches are sweatin deez nutz now cause none of yall pussy ass freaks have a copy of C.H.U.D. on BETA, and I do....yeah, it's not for sale either... Anyone living in NJ, please come see my band Lipmonger play at the Stone Pony, in Asbury Park, on Sunday march 24th...its an all punk show matinee, with 5 bands for $8. So come on out an support, all right..if you're interested, but need more info...e-mail me...all right... later the goat- straight edge fucking straight edge..if you aren't straight edge, you suck, and I hate you, except for the misfits....all straight edge people are cooler than everybody else...we rule...we are better, and we know it, and now you should know it!!!!! ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:48:07 GMT0BST Subject: blah Are any of the Misfits married? kids? When did the Misfits become huge Hulk Hogan types? Were they all that big? Glenn is big now, but was he then? How about Franche and Bobby Steele? Or is Graves the smallest Misfit ever? Bobby mentioned (I think is was him) a whole list of people that would have to be placed in a room to sort out the Misfits differences. Ian Mackaye was in the list. Why? How did Jerry and Doyle win the name from Glenn? I know it was out of court, but does anyone have any ideas? Did Jerry pay Glenn for it? Was Glenn not up for a legal battle? Did he not care anylonger? Did Glenn think he would lose or that the court case would damage his image? If it was settled out of court he must have not fought too hard. Finally, I bought a tour shirt at the London show. The washing directions state: Wash separately, lay out to dry, do not machine dry or hang, shape while wet. Now what is this bullshit? The damn thing is supposed to glow in the dark, but do I really need to do this? If I do, is it only the first time? Does anyone else have one of these glow in the dark shirts with the CG on the front that has washed theirs yet? I pay stlg1.40 to wash a load and I hate to spend that to wash one shirt. I hate to wait for a machine for one shirt. And do I really need a wet shirt lying around my room all the fuckin' time. They should start selling some simpler 'fits gear. AP ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 14:12:14 -0600 From: Eric Gulbrandsen Subject: Truce??? I've been noticing that there have been more attacks on eachother now that Bobby has become a guest here. All I have to say about this is lets treat him like a guest, it isn't often that somebody of his standings gives us his feedback directly, give the guy a break. Second off one of the big issues I've seen is people calling people names such as douchebag, etc, etc, etc...(You know who you are). Can't we act like adults here, I'm starting to feel as if Mark is babysitting for people here, this is not the purpose of this page it is to meet new people and get info on the Misfits, not a "Grudge Match" or a general bitch session. For those who are acting mature, keep up the good work, for those who aren't why don't you grow up a bit??? Last example of this-saying that the young ones are so immature but yet the same people are calling others douchebags, come on! On a better note, Bobby it is really cool to see that you are contributing to the page. Also anybody know what the address of the misfits trade list is, I lost it! Be Well Fellow Fiends. Later Gulliver ****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&& "You wouldn't know crazy if Charles Manson was eating Fruit Loops on your front porch!!!" -Mike Muir egulbrandsen@foxvalley.tec.wi.us ****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&&^^^^****&&&& ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:17:34 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Asselin Subject: Max's - Lyrics - Rehearsal Three things; sorry so long: 1) After getting my box set and (like others on the bible) suspecting there may have been other guitarists before Doyle, this suddenly occurred to me: Jerry & Doyle didn't overdub the Max's tape because of bad sound, they overdubbed it to remove a certain guitarist from the recording. (I know I'm not the only person to think of this, but I don't remember it ever being said before) 2) Am I also the only one who thinks that Glenn won't help correct the lyrics because they're generally pretty bad compared to what he writes now? As long as they aren't corrected by him he can disown them. Also, In Angelfuck, I just don't hear "She ain't loving you anymore" or whatever. I hear "She says 'Nothing new anymore'..." 3) This is the biggest, and I've been meaning to comment on this since I saw this a few months ago. This is in regards to the transcript of the 1981 rehearsal tape and Crimson Ghost's breakdown of it. The part I question: Glenn: You guys are the first ones to hear this new song (Referring to the fact that the song is being composed <-CG right there at the moment) <-CG Logically, this is just plain wrong. Disregard any discussion of who wrote the songs, etc. Apply yourself to this situation, and you'll see how CG's interpretation is way off base. If you and your friends are baking a cake together, there is *no reason* anyone participating in the baking would mention that "you (meaning everyone but the speaker) are the first to taste this new cake". First off, it's a given--not anything anyone would have to vocalize; if it's being baked right then, OF COURSE the participants are the first to taste it! Second, if you *were* to state the obvious, wouldn't it make sense to include yourself in the statement since it's a group endeavour? (For example, the awkward "We are the first to taste this new cake") If you look at it this way, it's obvious that Glenn is presenting the framework of this song to the band, as opposed to other people, first. (Speculation: Maybe Glenn normally tries out all his new songs on his mother first, who gives him her opinion on them. (I know that's not true, but it's for the sake of argument)) Yes, the band fleshes out the songs, but Glenn provides the skeleton. If the rehearsal transcription is accurate, it's virtually proof of it. - Dave pmack@shore.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:28:45 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: uh...yeah. > From: Sleepycore@aol.com > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:13:11 -0500 > > ally got a copy of the new Misfits album > "Thrall-Demonsweatlive." It's amazing!! They must have recorded it before > Michale Graves was in the band. Danzig's voice is more powerful and "manly" > than ever and Doyle and Jerry's playing is much more polished. I'm very > impressed!! Question: why did Doyle and Jerry use "pen names" on the album > like they did with Kryst ("Mo the Great")? This album is INTENSE!! > > -Bobby Lust this is joke, right? please somebody tell me this is a joke! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net:80/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:52:55 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: Spook City, etc... As far as people have been slagging on Spook City, etc... I for one have to say i like it. Mainly cause it's FUN as well as most of the Songshop stuff. And if I'm not mistaken this was the time that Bobby and Danziger were having the best time with the band. It's cool that for once the Misfits let their humor come to the front when recording. Oh well. On another note... i SWEAR the new Mountain Dew commercial has the Sex Pistols doing Route 66. Sure sounds like em anyway. Pretty cool. Got some guys riding sleds (the olympic kind... duh) down the Great Wall. (maybe they were escaped prisoners) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:06:08 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Good Idea Gulliver: I like your idea, but I always thought of Doyle being mutated by an atomic bomb and hanging out with Godzilla on monster island. I like your idea for mike, but I also thought that maybe Mike could've been the one in a block of ice (cryogenically kept young and should've been in the band in the first place :>). I also think that Chud could've been created like in the movie...but a new strain. Instead of the sewer, maybe in a grave yard or something....or maybe in an S&M paradise, and he learned rhythm from the crackin' of whips... Mark:I figure the shirts must have been faked or something. I also saw one with glenn painted up and in a coffin. It's only a face shot, black and white with green logo, on a white T, looked kind of cheap. I'll try and see if I can still get them when I go back. I think that I'd know who bought it if it were already sold. Did anybody ever notice that there was a poster of the 'fits in the coffins (the one for evilive, I think) on the wall of Zack's room on one of the old episodes of Saved By the Bell. I've been trying to keep my eyes open for repeats so I can tape it. Mark: one more thing: do you see the misfits stopping through Texas anytime before late august....I hope not, 'cause I'll be out of the country. laterz, Eric.......PCCazulty ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 14:17:05 -0500 Subject: Re: More shit >From: Adam Christensen >Subject: Live >Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:46:50 -0500 (EST) > > I have never been to a misfits show, hell I was just a little kid >when they broke up. But I am wondering about several of their songs and if >they were ever performed live at concerts. i just can't imagine them playing >American nightmare for an audience. what is the story with that song anyway> >Was glenn trying to make an elvis parody or something? Either way I love >that one. some other songs that I question are spook city u.s.a, >t.v casualty, static age, and theme for a jackal. When I first joined THE MISFITS, we did T.V. CASUALTY and STATIC AGE. In fact it should be on the LIVE AT MAX's XMAS recordings. I have a LIVe recording of SPOOK CITY U.S.A. - recorded on our second visit to the 4TH STREET SALOON. I never played 'JACKAL', but I'm sure FRANCHE and MR JIM did it live. I can't imagine that a band, like THE MISFITS, would've done anything without being able to do it live. They may not have ever done AMERICAN NIGHTMARE live, but that was at a different time, and there was probably some other motivation for that song - a potential soundtrack or something like that. The first time STEVE ZING played me a tape of that, I freaked out. I shows Glenn's versatility as both a songwriter and singer. It's come to my attention that there are a lot of attacks on Glenn in here, too. So I have to come to his defense. I can't believe that Glenn was the complete dick in the situatoin regarding me, because he came to me, in August or September, '81; and put up the money for THE UNDEAD to record the songs that became NINE TOES LATER. This was nearly a year after they fired me. If he hated me so much; why did he do this. He was at some of the recording sessions, and was very supportive of the whole project. In some ways, it seems that the article on THE UNDEAD, in SOUNDS (U.K.) may have been the beginning of the end between me and Glenn, even though I didn't say anything myself. The writer (TIM SOMMER) had made a comparison between the two bands, and didn't put the FITS in a very favorable light. To paraphrase; it said something like 'Bobby is very hard-working. He's accomplished more in the past few months, than the MISFITS had done in the past five years'. It wasn't a 'dig' on the FITS, but maybe one of them took it that way. Right after that came out, Glenn decided to scrap THE UNDEAD's project, and I bought the tapes off of him. I just can't help but think that this whole mess was just a game that went out of control. We'd been 'ribbing' each other in the fanzines, but it was light hearted shit. I don't know where it got serious. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:14:52 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dempz Subject: MI show OK, I may have read something wrong, but i thought the Misfits WEREN'T playing Harpo's in Detroit. Funny thing is, now it's being advertised here. What the hell's going on? A friend of mine was shot to death there, this is fucked. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:46:50 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Holford Subject: Wes Wes, Are you serious? Ban Mark/CG/Bobby ? First off, if you have complaints about bobby say what they are, not that he's whatever, and ban Mark? Hello! Who do you think runs EVERYTHING! And CG adds nothing but valuble information! Hmmm....how's the 1st grade? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:15:13 -0600 From: gala@cris.com (Gala) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #154 >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:06:41 -0500 (EST) >From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #153 > >I think that Bobby should be banned from the page. He is a pathetic >sack o' shit that shouldn't be considered anything but a loser. >The same goes for Mark and Crimson Ghost. > >Wes > >P.S. I still think that there is a flame of love for us Jaid. I really hope your joking. If not, you have to be the single most stupid person born after Bill Clinton ------------------------------ Subject: Danzig/WZ From: Chris Myers Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 13:13:04 AST Hey...Does anyone even partially agree that White Zombie COULD do an awsome cover of Halloween II? About Danzig.....Does anyone have the Sub-Pop songs (the demo's)?? chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:59:50 -0500 From: "Horror Businessman." Subject: a whole lot Hey I got a lot of things to say. First of all...Wes, go kill yourself. Your an asshole. Why don't we ban Jerry and Doyle from playing while were at it? Secondly...I enjoy most of Bobby's comments, as long as they pertain to when he was in the Misfits. Keep his friggin personal life/business out of here. I enjoyed those stories about the old shows. Very interesting and funny. Keep em coming. Third...I called the Odeon (where the fits are playing in Cleveland) and they said tickets will go on sale Friday for $11. Not bad. And if any fiends are planning on coming to that show, Sun May 12th, and need directions or want to meet before, e-mail me and we'll set somethin up. Fourth...Stop bothering Mark with dumbass questions. Are half of you inept? Fifth...Before anyone calls me a hypocrite, I DID check the page and was confused. I bought the WAU 12" (green lettering) this weekend, Ruby release, WB, but it didn't come with an insert. Was it a reject or did I misinterpret the notes on the page? Sixth...if you're having trouble with desktop theme, e-mail me and I'll help. I'm outty, Aaron >;-( When I sin, I sin real good >;-( ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:24:55 -0500 Subject: picking your nose normaly i wouldn't step in on an issue between two people but, crimson ghost if you owe this guy a pick why won't you send him the pick? then you proceed to insult his mother. i don't believe his mother was ever in the misfits, so she has no place on the bible whatsoever. let's not forget if he contributed to the jamie fund he deserves it. if he didn't than he's wrong. and i'm out of place. but, his mother was still never a member of the misfits. gee, i wonder why there's so much flaming on here. D.EVIL "...why don't you get a life and grow up..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:04:21 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Undead Concert Bobby: You said that the show at Muskegon ICE Pick was the Invisible Man tour. However, the flyer from that show, April 30th, 1992 says the Live Slayer Tour. What gives? Mark & Everyone Else: Ummmm, a real quick thing about the Box set. Have you noticed that some of the songs are a bit clipped? Now, I don't want to sound like I have obsessive compulsive disorder, but the songs are snipped! For example, one disc 1, the "We're rolling...this is take 1, Teenagers from mars and children in heat..." is snipped, and the end of the song is faded out quicker. Also, on disc 1, the end of [I think, can't remember] Mommy... doesn't have the extra guitar crunch. While I'm at it, the "1-2-3-4" before Bullet is also cut from Static Age. I'm not complaining, I just think it's darn odd. .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~snook `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. * The government shouldn't read your e-mail unless you send it to them. * No one should censor you from obscene television, without your consent. * Morality is learned in the family and from religion, not from Uncle Sam. * Kids should avoid drugs because they're dangerous, not because they're illegal. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:12:15 -0600 From: gala@cris.com (Gala) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #154 >From: Sleepycore@aol.com >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:13:11 -0500 > >ally got a copy of the new Misfits album >"Thrall-Demonsweatlive." It's amazing!! They must have recorded it before >Michale Graves was in the band. Danzig's voice is more powerful and "manly" >than ever and Doyle and Jerry's playing is much more polished. I'm very >impressed!! Question: why did Doyle and Jerry use "pen names" on the album >like they did with Kryst ("Mo the Great")? This album is INTENSE!! > >-Bobby Lust Your kidding, right? RIGHT? you had better be kidding... idiot. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:16:03 -0500 From: "James W. Watson" Subject: milo First i would like to thank Bobby for the good stories he's been writing. After the whole debate thing died down and he could stop spending all his time defending himself he made some really cool stories. (not that getting drunk and fucked up is something to bragg about) it was what the bible should be, people sharing stories and stuff about a band that they all like. i learned more about the misfits in his one post than i learned in like those ten bibles that only consisted debating over smoking and money. thanks again bobby, finally something interesting to read, (almost as good as the story in issue 138 about the girl at the concert) jim ps a long time ago someone wrote something about Milo from the descendents and i think they mentioned they know him, i could be wrong but if you did could you email me and tell me how i could write him. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 21:17:57 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #154 Dear Crimson Ghost, It's funny that you wish death upon my mother. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 22:58:32 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Now to set it straight... That shit that was yacking about Glenn was stupid, The times i've been around Glenn he never had alcohol. He usually has the road crew put out a cooler filled with bottles of water and juices. Plus all the shows here are so straight edge most people would be shocked. The last show someones parent came to see them before they went on. It could have been Glenn's they looked about the right age, late 60's. He's out to achieve for himself, and succeed in the stuff he was not able to do when he was younger. It's funny cause he gets so excited and proud of himself when he does something that is great. When we talked about Black Aria before it came out he was so thrilled that i knew about it and that it was such a great accopmlishment of his. You read the interviews when he started the comic book company. This was important to him and now look at what he has. Frank Franzetta and Go Nagai, these guys are classics of their art. Plus one of the few companies that has gone full computerized color. I think there are a lot of pissed off people that want the old days back and are reluctant to accept change. Hey i would love to have the Misfits back as they were, but that is not reality. Tammy ------------------------------ From: DougKaoz@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:34:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #154 This is for the Bible: Let's hear about some of the strangest, best or worst Misfits covers. I've got a version of Hatebreeders called "Sheep Herders" on the Forced Into A Cat Scan Machine By Pete Rose tape compilation on Chicken Farm records. I can't remember off hand who sang it (more on that later). I also have Orgy Of One ". . . From Outerspace," which is a four song tape with four Misfit covers (Last Caress, Bullet, Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight and London Dungeon) on some weird record label. Orgy Of One is/was a one man band from PA. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 03:22:00 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: Eerie's blues band Hey Fiends, If you haven't heard of Eerie Von's blues band you should check them out on the hotline. The phone # is (201) 939-1267. There's a sample of one of the songs on there. The song kicks fucking ass!!! It has a real catchy rythem and the guitar solo is cool too. I hope all the songs can be as cool as that one. If Eerie's doing them though then that shouldn't be a problem,as he's one cool motherfucker. Later, Ken (EAD) ------------------------------ From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Important!!!! Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:39:42 EST hey fiends I think all the bashing that goes here and on the Irc has got to go. Now I will be the first to admit that I have lost it a few times on the IRC, and for that I apologize. As for Glenn all the stuff that has been said, well the bottem line is the music and how it effects you. Glenn does what he wants and we probably wouldnt even discuss how bad we think his stuff is if the misfits were not back. We should have a positive discussion and thats it. Now opinions will vary from time to time, but lets try to be mature about it As for the CG pick thing, hey we all did a good thing and that shoulkd be enough. I know I was proud to see that we all pulled togeter to get jaime to New York. There are not to many other fan bases that would pull together like that, and with that we should all realize that we are part of somthing very special D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:14:37 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel King Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #154 >From: GothikEye@aol.com >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:22:26 -0500 >Subject: hmm > >i just found this thing and i got my 1st bible today(#153) i really enjoy it, >but it's really long >i want to find the Earth A.D. cd and the Evilive cd, but i can only get them >on tape The only place you can find Evilive on CD is in the boxset, or that Earth AD/Wolfsblood + Evilive thing, but i think its hard to find. >where can you get the boxed set? how much? Almost anywhere, I got mine for $65.. -Daniel King ------------------------------ From: Nikolopoulos Yannis -BSc Mod Comp Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:08:25 GMT Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #154, French Fiends please read!!! > Tiina ("T.M. Korhonen" ) wrote : ence (?) and the venue in Leicester weren't > best possible, but it wasn't that bad, was it? At least I enjoyed > myself a lot and so did the band as well. At least that's what they > said to me after the gig (and, well, after that horrible B'ham gig). Oh yea, me too! It was my first one so I really enjoyed it as well. The Bradford gig had much better sound quality and there were many more people but the Leicester one I'll remember as the 1st time I saw the Misfits live :) > But (Yannis!!) there were definitely less than 500 people in Leicester, 200 at > most. You`re absolutely right! When I wrote about 500 people I was talking about the Bradford gig (although I was writing about the LEicester one :)). I was in such a state though :). There were probably even less than 200 in Leicester... > I was taking pics for Atomic and Metal Hammer (and Leicester > University Student's union paper) and got some really good shots! I think I know who you are :) > I had really good time with the Misfits and i wish i see them again one > day. I was planning to go to see them in Barcelona again, but I think > I leave it (lack of money). I also would like to go somewhere in Europe to watch them again! ...Paris probably! SO, any French fiends that are reading the bible, please let me know if they can get tickets for me or even meet me at the Paris train station (Gare du Nord) so we can go together.... Please, respond via email, so we don't waste any bible space.... "a.proctor" wrote : > I hate to say it. > > I REALLY hate to admit it. > > But the NEW Misfits are not THE Misfits w/out Danzig. They are > entertaining, but without Danzig they are going to need a musical > engineer to control the effects and mix at their shows. Every song > sounded the same to the point the at time I couldn't tell what a song > was unless I read Michale's lips. This coming from someone who has > heard these songs hundreds of times. Well, I`ve heard loads of bootlegs where the sound is much worse ... I don't think it's got anything to do with Danzig...Actually I'm certain that it doesn't.... I was also gonna write about the Bradford gig but it's alreay been taken care of :) . I'll just point out that there were about 4-5 songs that were different on Bradford's setlist : Where Eagles Dare, Children In Heat, Nike a Go Go, Green Hell and .... I can't remember anymore ... That's it for now, Yannis ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:48:54 -0500 Subject: Last Issue I don't remember who wrote it (I seem to be having trouble remembering names lately) but that little thing about the Misfits murders in Canada was killer (no pun intended)! Very cool. You should turn that into a short story if you have the time. I'd love to read a long form version. Anyway, to whomever wrote it, nice job. Well, that's it ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:54:33 +0000 From: Geoff Weasel <00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu> Subject: Hey gang, remember me?? Howdy hey hey wassapenin' MOst of you probably don't remember me, but I've been a long time sub- scriber who hasn't posted in a dog's age. (The last time I posted, I believe, was a report of the Indy Danzig show back in December '94, if that gives you any idea about how long I've been subbed.) But, lately, I've decided to come out of lurking for this list, and USENET news, so I'm back with a vengeance. I figured, hey, what the fuck? Anyway, first things first -- Bobby, welcome aboard. Just wanted to say howdy. I dunno if you recall, but you and my brother Jim exchanged letters (I believe it was about a skatepark by where he lives [and where I LIVED] that wouldn't admit disabled persons for whatever reason or another) and you came across as being pretty righteous, so, "Hey." In other news, sheeit from thee last Bible (#154) --------------------------------------------------------------------- >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:06:41 -0500 (EST) >From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #153 > >I think that Bobby should be banned from the page. He is a pathetic >sack o' shit that shouldn't be considered anything but a loser. >The same goes for Mark and Crimson Ghost. > >Wes > >P.S. I still think that there is a flame of love for us Jaid. And people wonder why I hesitate to mention I go to Ball State anymore. Good thing I'm graduating in May. Oh, and another thing -- I was a young dumbshit too. I used to think that EMail lust/love was legit. Now I see it for the crock it is. In short, fuck off. Thank you. >From: cbmed@cdx.net >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:14:23 -0500 >Subject: Look what I found! > >Look what I found! >Globe and Mail November 5 1988 >NEWSFLASH >Misfit Serial Killer On the Loose >Canadian Free Press [...] Was this shit for real? If so, was the guy ever caught? Were there other killings other than the 5? I would tend to think that if this was real, the killer was probably like Richard Ramirez, i.e. a fuckwad who just did it to be famous and used every punk/metal cliche there was. Frankly, Ramirez had no art to it, but then, that's just me ;) >From: Sleepycore@aol.com >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:13:11 -0500 > >ally got a copy of the new Misfits album >"Thrall-Demonsweatlive." It's amazing!! They must have recorded it >before >Michale Graves was in the band. Danzig's voice is more powerful and >"manly" >than ever and Doyle and Jerry's playing is much more polished. I'm >very >impressed!! Question: why did Doyle and Jerry use "pen names" on >the album >like they did with Kryst ("Mo the Great")? This album is INTENSE!! > >-Bobby Lust Please please PLEASE tell me you're just kidding? Oh, wait, aol.com. That explains it. >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 23:50:58 -0500 >From: Crimson Ghost > >Wes Thomas (The Douche Bag) O1wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Said:: > >>I want my pick Crimson Ghost. > >You can kiss my ass cause I ain't sending you one - Fucknuts > >>Lord B says that he'll buy everyone two picks for 3$ >>and that 1/2 of the money is going to help the homeless. > >And LordB better not even think about givin you the time of day > >You are an ignorant asswipe - I could only hope that your mother died >immediately after giving birth to you - I would hate the thought of >more inbred idiots such as yourself running around > Hey Crimsy, I know we didn't always exactly see eye to eye way back when, but lemme assure you -- I don't know this guy. He's evidently a jackass, and, again, people wonder why I think twice about saying I go to this school.... >Flames are all we ever get inside this fuckin place >Flames are all we ever get - Why can't we have a change of pace? >Flames...Flames for Lunch >Flames for Breakfast..Flames for Brunch cute ;) New shtuff: Hey Mark, two things regarding the webpage: 1) I think there may be something wrong with the Bible Page section -- for some reason half the time there's an overlaying download, i.e. up at the top of the Bible Page, part of the bottom loads over it. There were suddenly ghost links in the middle of the Bible explanation for Deadguy, Lollipop Kids, and The Ninjas. (By ghost links I mean it was there but it didn't register as a link. Does that make sense?) Just thought you oughta know. 2) Add my page! ;) (URL below) Anyway, for any other old-timers and/or rookies out there who wanna yack it up, EMail me. Or check out thee page. Laytray and good to be back. --- Geoff We@sel thee Geoff Weasel Page of Fun Shtuff http://bsuvc.bsu.edu/~00gdwessel/ "for your blood I rip your throat" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:47:09 -0600 From: Nicholas Havens Subject: Collection II This post is a request. Stupid me didn't buy a copy of the vinyl collection II so if anyone out there has a copy they'd like to sell at a good price drop me a line. My adress is cybrpunk@rollanet.org Also did anyone notice that the guy who did the cover for the insert for the Box set is done by Dave McKean. For those non comic fans, he is the guy who does the covers for Sandman, a comic in DC's Vertigo adult titles line. I thought that was really cool. I'm currently working on a program to make sleeve inserts for the cd's that came in the box set and I will post the adress to get them as soon as I finish them. MisFits Rock! ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:32:36 -0500 >From: "James W. Watson" > >First i would like to thank Bobby for the good stories he's been writing. >After the whole debate thing died down and he could stop spending all his >time defending himself he made some really cool stories. (not that getting >drunk and fucked up is something to bragg about) I don't do that anymore, though it looks like the NEW FITS did it again at the Birmingham show. I learned long ago that I owe it to the fans to give them my best possible show. Sure, I was less inhibited and gave a better performance, but the music is much tighter when you're straight. This kind of music is so repetitious, you can forget which verse your in - when your fucked. >it was what the bible >should be, people sharing stories and stuff about a band that they all like. Good or bad. It's better you learn from our experiences, than have to go through the whole mess yourself. . >thanks again bobby, finally something interesting to read, (almost as good >as the story in issue 138 about the girl at the concert) I still haven't seen 138...MARK!!!! >jim . >Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:50:05 -0500 (EST) >From: Jon Holford > >Hey Bobby, > that's a wild story about you getting arrested! I have yet to >come across a cool cop let alone a cop like that. If more cool people became cops, we'd have more cops. We've infiltrated the major music industry - why can't we infiltrate the police. Fuck, imagine a punk rock congressman. >I got arrested for >"possession of a deadly weapon" a while back (it was a fucking B.B. >gun!!) and the cops treated me like I was Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know your situation, but unless you were using the BB gun in a way that you were trying to make it look like you had a real gun, you shouldn't have been charged with more than a misdemeanor. What'd they do to you? I hope you didn't do time for that. > Where you serious about this book? Did you really write one? I >hope you did, cause I'd love to buy a copy. The 1800-bobby talks was a joke. I have been writing down my memoirs, and hope to have someone help me turn it into a book - possibly EVB. Doing this BBs thing is helping me to remember a lot of those old days. > Also, since the Undead is pretty much back, think you will be >coming to Baltimore any time soon? or you gonna stick to N.Y.? Well THE UNDEAD has never really left. We played CLUB MIDNITE last July. I'm having a hard time finding just the right people, but after talking with my manager, and consulting with a few friends at major labels, I've decided that if I don't find the perfect UNDEAD by May, I'm gonna do a solo thing as Bobby Steele...with a backup band. It's been 15 years that I've spent trying to get THE UNDEAD 'just right' Image and sound wise. Things are hot now - and it seems to have worked out fine for Mike Watt. I'm really hoping that TIMES SQUARE takes off, too. We have a 7" coming out in May. If it starts to sell strong, we'll do, at least, a northeast tour. Jill and Dave's jobs make it difficult to get out of New York for more than a weekend. > Well, as always, great to have your contribuiton! Thanks > -Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:10:48 -0800 (PST) From: PRH Subject: jealousy is the barometer... by which the lover, or lover's insecurity in this case, is measured. hello little fiends, there has been a rather intolerable barrage of insults and halftruths and innuendo here of late. The only reason I started posting to the Bible at all was to straighten out a few facts I was certain of regarding the 'Fits Chelsea Hotel fiasco/fiesta. Since then I have heard the most unbelievable shit thrown around by people who probably weren't even born at the time the alleged things happened, all in these hallowed pages. At the risk of appearing condescending, which I don't intend to be CAUSE I LOVE YOU, MAN!, but I understand exaggeration. Here is what I do know: Glenn was a friend of mine many years ago. He could drink me under the table, which was quite a feat in those days, but I believe it to be a testimony to his hardy constitution rather than an addiction issue. I think all of us (are you listening Bobby?) did things we are, or should be, ashamed of. Is it any wonder Glenn wants to distance himself from all this? I know I want to, but it keeps biting me in the ass! Yow! The uncharitable remarks being directed at Bobby, the epithet "cripple" being continually used, is kind of like calling someone "Four Eyes" or "Fatso". In Bobby's case, his condition, which I know as a professional is a serious and occasionally fatal neurological condition which is spiritually and physically draining. Don't trip the blind man. Someday you may have someone in your family with a similar problem, and you will be devastated. I think we all need to grow up (myself included). Also, neither is Jerry necessarily the evil entity he seems to be. I certainly wish all the parties involved would just get locked in a room together like a jury and DEAL with it, instead of threatening and trashing each other like a bunch of no-life bitches (wow! i used a fascistic slur!). But that is just my observation, personally I enjoy gossip as much or more as anyone, but these people are/were my friends, and like the stupid punk I am, I feel the need to stand up and fight for them. At ease, patricia ragan hoehner nearwidow "I am whoever you make me, but what you want is a fiend...you want a sadistic fiend because that is what you are." -c.m. manson 1969 nrwidow@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:32:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Bobby's saga I think I told you that I got EVENING OF DESIRE placed in an independent movie. Anyway, the film came in second place at the TORONTO FILM FESTIVAL and first at SUNDANCE. So now SONY has picked up the film, and there'll be a soundtrack album on LONDON RECORDS. So far, so good -right? Now I'm told that ALAN GRUBMAN, probably the most powerful lawyer in the industry has stepped into this thing, and he claims that his client - whoever that is - OWNS MY SONG (AAARRRGH), That I wrote the song for the film and, thus it's a 'work made for hire'. Fortunately, I can show that the song was on a record in '89 - long before the film was written, and I have a contract with the filmmaker that gives him the right to use the song "only in the film" leaving the soundtrack deal up to me. I'm so glad I got into this business. If I wasn't so exausted, I'd laugh. As soon as you get a chance, I'd like to get the whole bible on disc - starting with my posts and working backwards. I still haven't seen the whole thing, because AOL is fucked up. I can't open anything that has an attachment on it. I have a sample of COMPUSERVE that I'll probably use for April. I hear it's worse than AOL, but it's free. I'll post that address, so fiends can contact me directly. I think I've proved my case, especially after the Birmingham gig. I think that shows that I didn't get kicked out for 'being fucked up and late, and unable to play'. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 01:08 +0100 From: PeterMoeller Subject: Hell on earth - the Misfits wreck Germ-any! This is my review (or whatever) of the 1st german show the Misfits ever did. If you don't like stuff like this - skip it. This is it - finally the Misfits in Europe. And I was lucky enough to catch them on their first german date. And it ripped - all the way !!! I can't even describe how great it was. It's probably the same as having an 1 1/2 hour orgasm... I arrived early as I was hoping to meet the guys, but I spoke to Rocky first (who immedeatly gave me a guest pass -"...where's that guy who looks like Lenin...?" and offered me a soda) and had to find out that the guys were a the gymn (wich was in the same building complex) working out. While he explained, Doyle was standing next to me, but I didn't even recognize him at first - he was wearing a jogging suit and a wooly hat, quiet, just listening to our conversation. So I'm still kicking myself for not at least greeting him right... duh... Soon came the time for the support bands Sardonica and English Dogs. Both did their best to warm up the audience and I was really considered 'cos the people seemed really lame... what an audience for the first Misfits show in Germany! But that all changed when they exploded onto the stage. I think that's the right word - explode! Just white lights (I only saw that once at a Rollins gig, they also didn't have a 'lightshow') and pure adrenaline!! The first two or three rows were reople trying to get up on the stage or trying to grab the microphone (wich they did plenty and Mike an Jerry were even encouraging them! During 'Come Back' one guy even got to sing almost the whole song through Jerry's mic!). Then came a pretty big pit for the real 'tough ones' ;) - I've never seen so many Sick Of It All/Slapshot-Shirts-wearing people backing off from a pit!! And the rest was standing a little back in disbelief. Also there was this kind of balcony wich Michale (how do you spell that right anyway?) climbed at one point of the show, trying to get to the people in the back. He obviously got a kick out of jumping into the audience and grabbing people and pulling them to sing along. At one point, when things seemed to get a little out of hand and some skinhead didn't wanna let go of the mic cable, a stagehand (Sardonica bassist) pushed him away and got the mic. Right after that happend Jerry shook the guys hand to show that it wasn't meant as a hostility or something. Jerry: "...the main thing is that you're having fun, right ?..."!! They almost played every tune they had and after one hour the came back for another half to do some requests (basically the audience was shouting titles and if it hadn't already been done they'd play the song). There was really no low point in the whole show. Okay, the sound could have been a little clearer but it was fast and raw - just like the old days. For me it was the gig of the year and after waiting 'til 1:30 a.m. I even got my records signed by Doyle ("Got a marker?") and Jerry who was immedeatly attracted when he saw his bro signing the discs: "Oh, what have we got here !?". He even watched that the marker would dry and not get smeared! I even checked on the next morning if the autographs were still on the records - it was no dream!! Thanx a lot guys!! That's all I can say right now. You made my day! Peter NO$482 P.S. Probably I will see them again on Saturday in Berlin - wich means a ride across the country. But what the hell... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:37:25 -0800 (PST) From: mike westlake Subject: re: the last one Mark Kennedy said: So many people on this mailing list seem to think that Glenn is living in his own shadow, that his best work was with the Misfits, and that he knows this.... I happen to disagree 100% and I'm sure that the people who actually know him NOW, like Steve Zing and Elizabeth Bouras will agree. He's doing only what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants. If he felt that he is less now than he was before, don't you think he'd do something? He has worked for more than 20 years to get where he is and he did it all his own way. Anyone can claim that one of his songs or bands are better than the other... this is opinion and is very useless. I like the Misfits the best, EVB likes Samhain, and Brett likes Danzig. Who cares? Glenn likes what he's doing now, otherwise he'd be doing something else. This is ridiculous. I shouldn't have to 'defend' this man... ******* you don't need to defend him. those of us who care to find out about the man do so and we don't run into this problem. well stated, Mark. Mike mtw4@axe.humboldt.edu ------------------------------ From: Ralph Herbert Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:44:37 +0100 Subject: the Misfits in Stuttgart Hi, here's a quick report of last night's Misfits show in Stuttgart at the Rohre. The place was already packed (500 - 600 people) when Sardonica went on. They were ok. The English Dogs were great, a lot better than on record. Then, after only a short break, the Misfits entered the stage and all hell broke loose. Doyle was doing his "evil stare" thing, Michael looked (and sounded) like a younger version of Glenn and Jerry was practically all over the place. The sound was good and their performance was incredibly tight. To tell you the truth, I was skeptical when I first heard of the Misfits reunion, but after seeing their performance, there's NO QUESTION AT ALL that they truly deserve the name. A lot of people already posted the set list so I won't go into detail except that they came back 3 times and played no less than 8 encores. After the show, Jerry said that this had been definitely the best gig on the tour so far. And I know its has been said countless times in the bible, but hey, they ARE the nicest guys you could possibly imagine. If you couldnt make it to one of the shows, I have one (1) tour poster (feat. the Famous Monsters logo + the crimson ghost, signed by the band) to give away to the first fiend who e-mails me the answer to this simple question: at what gig did Glenn shout "If you dont know what this one is, what the fuck you doing here?" Oh, before I forget, Michael told me that he says hi to his mom. Ralph ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 11:26:01 +0100 From: rejoen@knoware.nl (Jeroen Pietersma) Subject: Misfits in Amsterdam First of all: sorry, I'm a bit late with this posting; I had some troubles woith news. Anyway, the Misfits played Amsterdam. They played great!!! They rule! Their new singer is excellent. Quite some people showed up, but most of them were just standing there... This happens more often in Amsterdam, and then the next time a band plays there, all hell breaks loose. But for now, it's a shame. The Misfits were a bit disappointed. I did an interview with Jerry. Went up there and didn't know what/who to expect. I thought: maybe they're as mean as Glen 'evil elvis' Danzig. But they are very, very, very nice, friendly people, who really care about their fans. A photographer of the (Dutch) magazine I write for, made some really nice pictures. Hope someone will scan them, so I can post a few later on. During the show something bad happened: someone threw a beer, and some beer hit the mixing desk and it broke down. The guy who was at the mixing desk (someone of the venue or from a sound-company) just turned it off and just walked away (and the sound got really soft and bad). The Misfits didn't know that troble was going on, cause they had quite some noise on stage via the monitors. There was an other (small) mixing desk on stage and a friend of mine walked up to the guy at that desk (he also did not notice the troubles) and told him what was going on. The Misfits heard about it, and they turned the monitors around. Then the sound was okay. And they played on! The guy at the second mixing desk took over the sound, a little later and every thing was great again. Except for the vocals: not loud enough. So the friend of mine (William) walks up to the guy behind teh 2nd mixing desk and tells him. He goes: okay, and turns the voals up. Then William comes back to me, and we're like: it still isn't good enough. So William walks back, tells the sound-man to turn it up more. He did and there was a great sound. The Misfits played looooooooooong! And new songs sound GREAT! William talked to Jerry and Jerry asked him to put a thank you on the Net. Here it is: William for Jerry Only, Amsterdam 03-19-1996 Jerry likes to thank the fiend that supported them on the tour so far: Adam -Edinburgh Naz - Birmingham show Yannis ( from Greece ) Leicester show Jack Simms ans Julian, you know who you are...!! Thankx -------------------------------- //// Jeroen Pietersma | rejoen@knoware.nl \\\\ ///Ina Boudier-Bakkerlaan 53, 3582 VN, Utrecht\\\ // voice & fax: (31) 30 2522785 \\ / \ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:22:07 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: New Tune?? -->Mark Anthony Condick said: >played all the classic like She, Skulls, Die Die my darling, Mommy, can = >I go out to kill to night, Children In heat, Devils Whorehouse, = >Halloween, Ghouls night out, I turn into a Zombie, Wow, I gotta get that new tune "I Turned into a Zombie" Jerry said there was some unreleased stuff floating around :) Just Kidding CG ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Pick offer Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:09:55 -0500 (EST) Hello out there my fellow fiends! Lord B, I read your offer for the 3 picks for a dollar and I want in on it. Mail me and I will give you my snail mail address. Your letter also said that you would be giving half of the proceeds to the homeless, are you going to give the money to random people on the street or to a specific organization? Punks Not Dead, Adam Seven ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 02:17:32 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: #misfits is a bed of losers Ihad hoped it wouldn't have to ever come to this. I used to love that place however the politics of the channel have become so immense that it now matters what opinion you have on certain topics. I do believe that one of the rules for the channel were to respect others opinions no matter how full of bullshit it is. Now you can't even say GLENN DANZIG without ppl jumping on your back for it. There I can say Glenn Danzig here so now what are you going to do? Call me names, ban me from the Bible? Come on most of you all act like little fuckin jerks. How old are you Cg? 31? If you're 31 then why can't you take some one elses opinion rather than starting an argument all the time. What is your word golden? The final say? Hehehehe what a bunch of bullshit. What about you Fiend138. All you know how to do is ridicule ppl. Get a friggen life loser. You treat a person like Mr. Michaels like a fuckin legend just cause he's going to air some old laundry on a person. I guess that makes him a hero cause he can say things that supposedly happened 8 friggen years ago. People do change and most of the time what you did in the past doesn't matter as long as you are better for it in the present. Basically what Im saying is FUCK #MISFITS. OH yeah to all those who know what Im talking about step up and show your integrity, cause Lord knows I have a hell of alot more than all of you!!! Later, Earth-AD #misfits all are scum ------------------------------ From: mangel@big12.metrobbs.com Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 02:42:12 -0500 Subject: Misfits Bible, #154 Mark, I can see that readers of the misfits "bible" are ungratfull, and not interested in anything I have to say, so, this will be my last post. I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions before I go. A. Glenn Anzalone told me on August 4, 1989 in Milwaukee Wisconsin that his favorite drink was "151 and Coke," and I was informed by the promoter that alchohol was one of the things requested by Glenn before the show that night. Maybe Glenn is not an alchoholic, but from all of people who have told me the same story of Glenn being one, and then hearing him say that "151 and coke" was his favorite drink, I made an educated guess on the subject. If I am wrong, I am wrong, but those are the words that were said to me, by him. B. My reputation has never been questioned in this industry, not by Bobby, not by record labels, not by clubs, and not by magazines, that is why you should believe what I say, and if you choose not to, thats your choice. C. I posted what I know about the current situation involving Bobby, and the Misfits because I though it might help the situation, and I am not as paitent as Bobby, therefore I won't bother you with my apparently petty nonsense. There are pleanty of people who will vouch for me and my knowledge if I needed them to, but I shouldn't need them to. I unlike some people are not here to disect commentary, and cause arguments, all I tried to state is that nobody needs to fight and argue about this, instead we should post more informative things (such as the Misfits serial killer story). By the way I didn't post anything about Glenn being an alcoholic, it was an IRC conversation posted by sombody else. Mark your doing a great job with the bible, and the page, keep up the good work. Sorry I couldn't be more of a help, but I have an Australian tour to look after, as well as a record deal to sew up, and I don't have time for verbal abuse, but I hear Bobby does real well with it, in fact I think he wrote a song about it. -J Michaels ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Internet Fiend Club Re: subtle Earth-Ad and Flames Bible fiends ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: Re: this Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:46:23 -0500 (EST) > From: "a.proctor" > > Are any of the Misfits married? kids? Jerry, Doyle and Franche' are married. Robo is/was married. Jerry has 2 kids about 10 and 14 in age. Franche' has 4 kids, most of them very young. Doyle has no kids. > When did the Misfits become huge Hulk Hogan types? Were they all > that big? Glenn is big now, but was he then? How about Franche and > Bobby Steele? Or is Graves the smallest Misfit ever? Jerry and Doyle were always big. They were both on the football team at Lodi High School and even brought their weights on tour with them. Obviously over the past 15 years or so they've had even more time to work out. Glenn wasn't big in the Misfits days, but he was a wrester in high school, so he was sort of athletic. Franche' is a tall guy who was the star basketball player back in his junior high school days... > How did Jerry and Doyle win the name from Glenn? I know it was out > of court, but does anyone have any ideas? Did Jerry pay Glenn for > it? Was Glenn not up for a legal battle? Did he not care anylonger? > Did Glenn think he would lose or that the court case would damage his > image? If it was settled out of court he must have not fought too > hard. Jerry and Doyle didn't really WIN the name. Glenn sort of gave up. No money was paid to Glenn... and yes he would have lost big time in court if he hadn't settled. > dry or hang, shape while wet. Now what is this bullshit? The damn > thing is supposed to glow in the dark, but do I really need to do > this? If I do, is it only the first time? Does anyone else have one > of these glow in the dark shirts with the CG on the front that has > washed theirs yet? I pay stlg1.40 to wash a load and I hate to spend Hey, I wash mine all the time. Just don't put it in the dryer. > From: Dave Asselin > 2) Am I also the only one who thinks that Glenn won't help correct the > lyrics because they're generally pretty bad compared to what he writes now? > As long as they aren't corrected by him he can disown them. Yes, I think this is a great theory. > Glenn: You guys are the first ones to hear this new song > (Referring to the fact that the song is being composed <-CG > right there at the moment) <-CG > > If you and your friends are baking a cake together, there is *no reason* > anyone participating in the baking would mention that "you (meaning everyone > but the speaker) are the first to taste this new cake". First off, it's a > given--not anything anyone would have to vocalize; if it's being baked right > then, OF COURSE the participants are the first to taste it! Second, if you > *were* to state the obvious, wouldn't it make sense to include yourself in > the statement since it's a group endeavour? (For example, the awkward "We > are the first to taste this new cake") But what you fail to realize is that there were other people in the audience watching the band rehearse. THEY were the first to hear the song. > From: "J. Jorden" > As far as people have been slagging on Spook City, etc... I for one have > to say i like it. Mainly cause it's FUN as well as most of the Songshop > stuff. And if I'm not mistaken this was the time that Bobby and Danziger > were having the best time with the band. It's cool that for once the > Misfits let their humor come to the front when recording. Right on! > From: Eric > Mark: one more thing: do you see the misfits stopping through Texas > anytime before late august....I hope not, 'cause I'll be out of the country. Hmmm. Tough call. I would assume it would be late summer, but that's all I can say. > From: Andy Dempz > OK, I may have read something wrong, but i thought the Misfits WEREN'T > playing Harpo's in Detroit. Funny thing is, now it's being advertised > here. What the hell's going on? A friend of mine was shot to death > there, this is fucked. Hey. I said things are being worked. Jerry has stated that he doesn't want to play there. Obviously, tickets can go on sale for several reasons: 1) the show is still going to be held there 2) the tickets went on sale before the change was announced 3) accidents happen I don't think it's #1. Just be patient. > From: Jon Holford > Wes, > Are you serious? Ban Mark/CG/Bobby ? > First off, if you have complaints about bobby say what they are, not that > he's whatever, and ban Mark? Hello! Who do you think runs EVERYTHING! And > CG adds nothing but valuble information! Wes is gone now everybody. He unsubscribed the other day. > From: "Horror Businessman." > Fifth...Before anyone calls me a hypocrite, I DID check the page and was > confused. I bought the WAU 12" (green lettering) this weekend, Ruby > release, WB, but it didn't come with an insert. Was it a reject or did I > misinterpret the notes on the page? Look one more time. The Fiend Club insert only came with the 1st and 2nd pressing. > From: Eric Snook > Mark & Everyone Else: Ummmm, a real quick thing about the Box set. Have > you noticed that some of the songs are a bit clipped? Now, I don't want > to sound like I have obsessive compulsive disorder, but the songs are > snipped! For example, one disc 1, the "We're rolling...this is take 1, > Teenagers from mars and children in heat..." is snipped, and the end of > the song is faded out quicker. Also, on disc 1, the end of [I think, > can't remember] Mommy... doesn't have the extra guitar crunch. While I'm > at it, the "1-2-3-4" before Bullet is also cut from Static Age. I'm not > complaining, I just think it's darn odd. I think it's odd too. So now, to have the complete set of every version of every song that's ever been released anywhere, you must grab the WAU album, the box set, and the first compilation. For some reason, those songs were just clipped. It's definitely NOT to save time, since disc #1 could have fit another 20 minutes or so. I would like to point out that the original release of Mommy... on the Die Die 12" did NOT have that extra guitar feedback squeak at the end. > From: Geoff Weasel <00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu> > Hey Mark, two things regarding the webpage: > 1) I think there may be something wrong with the Bible Page section -- > for some reason half the time there's an overlaying download, i.e. up > at the top of the Bible Page, part of the bottom loads over it. There > were suddenly ghost links in the middle of the Bible explanation for > Deadguy, Lollipop Kids, and The Ninjas. (By ghost links I mean it was > there but it didn't register as a link. Does that make sense?) Just > thought you oughta know. Hmmm, nobody else has experienced this problem. It might be because I have so many lists and tables. What are you using to access the page? > From: mike westlake > well stated, Mark. Thanks. Oh, by the way fiends... Bobby was only kidding about that 1-800 thing. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 11:27:53 -0500 From: Bobby Steele Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:52:06 -0500 Subject: WHOOPS! Last week, Patricia had sent me an email - part of which made a reference to God, and did I beleive in God. I realized that my reply made an interesting story summarizing what went on in my life in my final days as a MISFIT and for the year-and-a-half after getting kicked out of the MISFITS. So here it is... I know where you're coming from. I keep forgetting that you probably didn't hear about everything that happened to me after I "GOT THE BOOT". I fell between the cars of a train as it left Union Square station. I saw my whole life flash before me. I accepted my fate when, some guy grabbed the back of my jacket and pulled me back onto the platform. I was in a state of near-catatonic shock for a long time, and it was years later that I finally realized that when I started to thank him; he held his hand up in front of himself, stepped back, and vanished into thin air. About a year and a half later, A recurring sore on my second to exploded before a gig in Boston. I made a lot of BOSTON RED SOX jokes that night. Two days later, I was changing the bandaid and I thought I saw some puss. So I gave my toe a squeeze AND THE BONE FELL OUT. I had osteomylitis. It kept coming back and by the following June, I was laid -up in the hospital for the third time in a year. Now, on top of the Osteomylitis, I had Hepatitis B and I think they thought i had AIDS, too. This was 1982 and they kept saying I had something - they didn't know what it was, but there was something going around...something bad. And they kept asking me if I was gay, or 'had you ever done any intravenous drugs?" I was in a little glass room at the end of a hallway. There was a little window that looked outside. One morning, I got up, looked out the window... and saw them carrying corpses out of the door just below my window. That was as close to death as I wanted to be. Actually, my ego got in there. "I'm UNDEAD, this is really bad for my image". Can you believe it? I'm laying a hospital bed - given up for dead. Stiff Records is racing to get my 45 out before I buy the farm, doctors are advising me to get my things in order, I weigh 117lbs, THEY'RE ONLY FEEDING ME A LITTLE BIT OF ICEBURG LETTUCE CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO WASTE GOOD FOOD ON A LOST CAUSE... and I'm thinking about my PUBLIC IMAGE!!! That's what saved my life. I didn't want to let my fans down by blowing my image of invincibility, so I demanded a better room. I went from eating nothing to a whole chicken and a couple of hamburgers just for lunch. People were constantly bringing me pizza and all other kinds of shit to eat! But there was another bombshell dropped on me. My leg had to come off. The osteomylitis was spreading. I thought about it for a day. The next day, I told the doctor to give me a little more time, and finally decided that I'd go for the amputation (I already had someone that was gonna buy mt toes @$2000.00 /toe), if he could get me a bionic leg. I wanted to jump over busses and kick holes in brick walls. I was completely delirious. When the doctor said he couldn't do that, I told him I'd take my chances. Another doctor suggested that if I wasn't gonna go for the amputation, I should try 'visualation'. It made perfect sense to me. One morning I woke up to find my blood covering the entire floor in my 4-bed room. The nurse had put the antibiotic needle all the way through the back of the tube, my blood backed up and...voila!! I was barely able to ring the nurse. I didn't get to see the look on her face when she arrived. Anyway, fifteen years later I still have the same leg, no trace of the hepatitis, and I'm HIV negative. Do I believe in GOD? Where do you think he stays when he's in New York? ____________________ ANGEL IN THE SUBWAY (excerpt from Bobby's book) I'D ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THAT WHEN IT WAS YOUR TIME TO GO -YOU'D GO. YOU COULDN'T CHEAT FATE. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED, IF IT WASN'T YOUR TIME TO GO, YOU WOULDN'T DIE. I ALSO BELIEVED THAT WE ALL HAVE A GUARDIAN ANGEL WHO WATCHES OVER US AND SEES TO IT THAT OUR LIFE GOES AS THE POWERS THAT BE SEE FIT... THE UNION SQUARE SUBWAY STATION IS UNIQUE IN THAT THE TRACKS GO THROUGH THE STATION IN A CURVE, AS OPPOSED TO THE STRAIGHT TRACKS IN MOST OTHER STATIONS. THIS MEANT THAT THE TRAINS DIDN'T COME FLUSH AGAINST THE PLATFORM AND THERE WAS ABOUT A TWO-FOOT GAP BETWEEN THE PLATFORM AND THE TRAIN. A METAL 'GRATE' SLID OUT FROM UNDER THE PLATFORM TO MEET THE TRAIN, AND RETRACTED AFTER THE DOORS WERE CLOSED. IT WAS MARCH 31, 1980...THE DAY BEFORE THE BIG NEW YORK TRANSIT WORKERS STRIKE. I WAS HEADING BACK TO MY APARTMENT, FROM MY GIRLFRIEND'S. THE TRAIN WAS ALREADY STOPPED AT THE PLATFORM AS I REACHED THE TOP OF THE STAIRS. I GOT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS AS THE LAST PASSENGER BOARDED THE TRAIN. A SET OF DOORS WAS RIGHT THERE, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS, AND THE CONDUCTOR WAS IN THE NEXT CAR - ABOUT TEN-FEET AWAY FROM ME AND LOOKING IN MY DIRECTION, SO I SAW NO DANGER IN STEPPING ONTO THE TRAIN. AS I STEPPED ONTO THE 'GRATE'; THE CONDUCTOR PUSHED THE BUTTON THAT CLOSES THE DOOR AND ALLOWS THE TRAIN TO START MOVING. THE DOORS SHUT IN MY FACE AND, BEFORE I COULD STEP BACK, THE TRAIN BEGAN TO MOVE AND THE PLATFORM WENT OUT FROM UNDER ME CAUSING ME TO FALL, HEAD FIRST, TOWARD THE TRAIN. EVERYTHING WAS LIKE SLOW-MOTION AND WHAT WAS PROBABLY A MATTER OF SECONDS SEEMED TO GO ON FOR AN ETERNITY. AS I FELL BETWEEN THE CARS, I SAW MY ENTIRE LIFE FLASH BEFORE ME. I WAS AMAZED, BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST A FIGURE OF SPEECH, BUT IT WAS LIKE A MOVIE TRAILER FLASHING VARIOUS SCENES RIGHT FROM MY EARLIEST MEMORIES. I WAS RESIGNED TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO WAY OUT. THIS WAS THE END. MY FEAR CHANGED TO AN INNER PEACE AS I ACCEPTED MY FATE. WHETHER I LIKED IT OR NOT; I WAS IN GOD'S HANDS NOW. SUDDENLY, I WAS SNAPPED BACK INTO REALITY AS A HAND GRABBED ONTO THE COLLAR OF MY LEATHER JACKET AND PULLED ME FROM DEATH'S DOOR. I TURNED TO SEE WHO HAD SAVED ME, AND THERE WAS A MAN WHO LOOKED TO BE IN HIS SIXTIES. HE WAS WEARING A GRAY SUIT AND A FEDORA HAT. HIS SKIN HAD A PALLID LOOK TO IT, AND HIS EYES HAD A COLD STARE - AS IF THEY LOOKED RIGHT THROUGH YOU. I STARTED TO TRY AND THANK HIM, AND DEMANDED TO KNOW WHO HE WAS. I WAS IN TOTAL DISBELIEF THAT SUCH A PERSON WOULD EVEN CARE TO SAVE THE LIFE OF SOME LOW-LIFE PUNK IN A LEATHER JACKET. AS I SHOUTED OVER THE DIN OF THE TRAIN RUMBLING ALONG THE TRACKS, HE HELD UP HIS OPEN HAND, AS IF TO SAY "BACK OFF", STEPPED BACK AND, MAY GOD STRIKE ME DOWN IF I'M LYING, FADED INTO THE DARKNESS. I WAS ALONE ON THE PLATFORM EXCEPT FOR TWO TRANSIT COPS WHO WERE FACING ME FROM ACROSS THE PLATFORM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SAW, BUT THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO MY PLEAS FOR HELP. IT WAS LIKE THE 'TWILIGHT ZONE'. LIKE I WASN'T REALLY THERE. AT LEAST NOT IN BODY ANYMORE. I WALKED UP TO THE MAIN PART OF UNION SQUARE STATION AND APPROACHED THE FIRST COP I SAW AND BEGAN TO TRY AND TELL HIM WHAT HAD JUST HAPPENED. HE LOOKED AT ME AND TOOK MY CANE AND TRIED TO UNSCREW THE TOP. I GUESS HE WANTED TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF DRUGS I HAD CONCEALED IN THE HANDLE. HE BROKE THE TOP OFF MY CANE. THEN HE DIRECTED ME TO THE TRANSIT POLICE OFFICE FURTHER UP THE HALLWAY. THEY CALLED AN AMBULANCE AND ESCORTED ME UP TO THE STREET. I WAS TAKEN TO ST. VINCENT'S HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM AND RUSHED UP TO AN X-RAY ROOM. I WAS SO FREAKED OUT AFTERWARD, THAT - ON THE FOLLOWING MORNING - I CALLED 'SUICIDE PREVENTION'. THEY PUT ME ON "HOLD". I SWEAR IT! I PICKED UP MY T.V. AND THREW IT INTO THE FLOOR. I REALIZED HOW RIDICULOUS THE WHOLE SITUATION WOULD LOOK IF THIS WASN'T REAL, AND SAT DOWN AND LAUGHED HYSTERICALLY. q ------------------------------ From: lin01862@acad.suffolk.edu Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 11:43:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: local bands??? does anyone know if the "new" misfits will be supporting local music scenes on their east coast tour by using local opening acts in addition to DOA ?? if so, i want to try to have my band get the gig (as does every other musician in the western hemisphere!!). also,, what the hell is going on with the new lineup? are they going to release new material and WHEN? i can't wait to hear these guys!!!!! someone please fill me in! every time i try to get on the net page, i get disconnected! ---boston mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:14:11 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel King Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #155 >Did anybody ever notice that there was a poster of the 'fits in the >coffins (the one for evilive, I think) on the wall of Zack's room on one >of the old episodes of Saved By the Bell. I've been trying to keep my >eyes open for repeats so I can tape it. Not this topic again, PLEASE??? -Daniel King ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:51:47 -0600 From: Chris Subject: Re: #Misfits is a bed of losers >>Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 02:17:32 -0500 (EST) >>From: Kenneth Corch >>Subject: #misfits is a bed of losers >>Ihad hoped it wouldn't have to ever come to this. I used to love that >>place however the politics of the channel have become so immense that it >>now matters what opinion you have on certain topics. I do believe that >>one of the rules for the channel were to respect others opinions no >>matter how full of bullshit it is. Yeah thats one of the rules Earth AD, but your level of bullshit broke our bullshit meter. >>Now you can't even say GLENN DANZIG without ppl jumping on your back for it. No, anyone can certainly say "Glenn Danzig" but endlessly whining about any negative comment or joke made about him tends to get on one's nerves. >>There I can say Glenn Danzig >>here so now what are you going to do? Call me names, ban me from the >>Bible? Come on most of you all act like little fuckin jerks. I guess we just have a short temper for whining little mallpunks. Ya know, in the beginning we were just joking around. People tend to do that on IRC as in life. But *anything* would send you off on a twenty minute bitchfest. Get a sense of humor!! >>How old are you Cg? 31? If you're 31 then why can't you take some one elses >>opinion rather than starting an argument all the time. What is your word >>golden? The final say? Hehehehe what a bunch of bullshit. I'll leave that alone, CG can more then defend himself. Is CG's word "golden" no, but he's right 99.9% of the time. Listen to him, you might learn something. By the way, your "opinions" were often steeped in ignorance. Does that mean we have to accept them? I think not. >>What about you Fiend138. All you know how to do is ridicule ppl. Get a >>friggen >>life loser. You treat a person like Mr. Michaels like a fuckin legend >>just cause he's going to air some old laundry on a person. I guess that >>makes him a hero cause he can say things that supposedly happened 8 >>friggen years ago. People do change and most of the time what you did in >>the past doesn't matter as long as you are better for it in the present. Hmm and you treated Jon Micheals like shit. You jump all over him and then run away like a scared little schoolgirl. You made a real ass of yourself that night. About Fiend138, he has something called "a sense of humor" You however, do not, all you know how to do is complain. Here is an example a conversation involing this "humor" thing: ::Fiend138: Hey Angst yer mom is a whore! ::Angstboy: Heh, no shes a slut she doesn't charge for it! See how that works? >>Basically what Im saying is FUCK #MISFITS. OH yeah to all those who know >>what Im talking about step up and show your integrity, cause Lord knows I >>have a hell of alot more than all of you!!! You mean you're no coming on any more? Oh darn, someone is going to have to take up the whining slack. You shall not be missed. >>Later, >>Earth-AD >>#misfits all are scum Scum? heh big words tough guy. Sorry for taking up all this space in the bible, but these pathetic attacks couldn't go unanswered. THe #misfits channel is a forum made up of many individuals, sometimes feelings get hurt, egos bruised, etc etc. Just like real life. I guess some people can't handle being part of society. Oh well -Angstboy #Misfits channel op ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:19:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Neil E. McAllister" Subject: Box Set Manufacturing Errors A couple of people a few Bibles back were mentioning how their copies of the Box Set came with not one, but TWO fire-enamel Fiend Club pins. This seems like a cool deal to everybody... until I walked in to Rasputin Records in Hayward, CA the other day and saw behind the counter there a stack of about five box sets with a post-it note tacked to it: "Did NOT come with a pin". They were still trying to sell the set, I didn't ask what the price they wanted was. All the sets that came without a pin had the shrink wrap taken off, so interpret it how you will. On another note, or does all this talk about "believe me because my reputation in this industry has never been questioned" and "in this industry reputation is everything" and blah blah blah, does that bore the shit out of you as much as it does me? Rock stars is rock stars, a little perspective here, people, please! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:09:41 -0500 From: st930419@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (Andrew Share) Subject: evilive on cd someone posted inte last Bible that Evilive on CD could only be found in the box set, but I have a catalog from Sessions that has a listing for Evilive on CD. Andrew Share St930419@pip.cc.brandeis.edu ****************************************************************** ***************"Gonic is the center of the USA."****************** ****************************** - Fly Spinach Fly****************** ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:45:03 -0500 From: fennellw@bc.edu Subject: MISFITS how does the new singer sound and what is the current line up? ------------------------------ Subject: WZ concert From: Chris Myers Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 15:25:05 AST On Tuesday the 19th of March I saw a White Zombie concert, AND........Rob was wearin' his Samhain Initium shirt....... okbye ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 21:34:04 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: Glenn is pretty cool In the last bible someone wrote that Glenn gets like a little kid if you know something. I think the example this person used was with Black Aria. She explained how excited He got when she mentioned it too him. This is very true. When I got a chance to meet him I mentioned the Samhain Box set and He got all happy and kept babbling about what was going to be included in it. He also told me about the supposed 3 and 4 videos that were supposed to be released last fall. Oh well, maybe they'll come out soon. Later, Ken (Earth-AD) Oh yeah, of the whole band Glenn was the only one NOT drinking a can of beer. He must be a real alcoholic. hehhehehe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: #misfits Hey hey hey...Earth AD had some shit to throw at #misfits last ish and I'm just here to say that the channel is what you make of it. I have no problem being called "scum" but what the fuck... it's only IRC. The only person I ever kick is myself. I dunno what happened to make people so bitter about goddam little computer blips flying across your screen, but for crying out loud let's lighten up. When I first saw IRC five years ago all I saw was a place for geeks and ugly people to hit on each other without having to show up in person... kind of the way pretentious high school kids and lame old guys throw their sexuality around in the dark at the Rocky Horror Picture Show. And I'm not sure much has changed!... heh heh. You can't possibly take yourself too seriously on this medium. For anyone who hasn't tried it, #misfits is a fun way to kill an hour or two, but if you're going to cop an attitude then you cheat yourself out of a lotta potential fun. Relax!!! Teevie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 00:12:17 -0400 (AST) From: KEITH Subject: unsubscribe misfits rock but computer nerds suck. later punks. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 09:35:08 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Time ---> Dave pmack@shore.net Said: >This is in regards to the transcript of the 1981 >rehearsal tape and Crimson Ghost's breakdown of it. > Glenn: You guys are the first ones to hear this new song > (Referring to the fact that the song is being composed <-CG > right there at the moment) <-CG >Logically, this is just plain wrong. Disregard any discussion of who wrote >the songs, etc. Apply yourself to this situation, and you'll see how CG's >interpretation is way off base. >If you and your friends are baking a cake together, there is *no reason* >anyone participating in the baking would mention that "you (meaning everyone >but the speaker) are the first to taste this new cake". First off, it's a >given--not anything anyone would have to vocalize; if it's being baked right >then, OF COURSE the participants are the first to taste it! Second, if you >*were* to state the obvious, wouldn't it make sense to include yourself in >the statement since it's a group endeavour? (For example, the awkward "We >are the first to taste this new cake") >If you look at it this way, it's obvious that Glenn is presenting the >framework of this song to the band, as opposed to other people, first. hmmmmm...Dave don't you have anything better to do than to pull out a 2 year old transcript and question it? First off Jerry did the transcript from the tape I just typed it up for him. And the comments you are refering to aparently were made to friends of the band that were hanging out at the time. Why would Glenn say it any other way? the band had been together for some time then there is no reason for Glenn to say that to the band, only to the people that were in attendance. That's my take but, neither you nor I can dispute the validity of the dialog, or comment on who it was directed at. We weren't there! On the other hand Jerry was, and I will stand by his interpretation until someone that was also there says otherwise. I can't remember if that transcript was attributed to myself, if it was it was done that way for a reason....I'll leave it at that. I don't want to go into the politics of the situation. ---->From: Eric Gulbrandsen >I've been noticing that there have been more attacks on eachother now that >Bobby has become a guest here. All I have to say about this is lets treat >him like a guest, it isn't often that somebody of his standings gives us his >feedback directly, give the guy a break. Second off one of the big issues >I've seen is people calling people names such as douchebag, etc, etc, >etc...(You know who you are). Eric, please don't comment on things that you obviously haven't a clue about. I seriously doubt that anyone here would dispute the fact that Wes Thomas is a douchebag. Yeah I noticed that you didn't mention the context that the comment was used in or who it was aimed at when you chose to flame me without mentioning my name. I called Wes Thomas a douchebag because I believe that name suits him well. Anybody have a different opinion of him? I'm sick of all you friggin whimps crying on this list. "Oh why can't we all get along" We are into a punk band for chrissake, not Barney, Not Fucking Mariah Carey. We like to go to shows and beat the shit outta ourselves. Get real. When you put this many punks together in one place you gotta expect this. --->EvilDieff@aol.com said: >normaly i wouldn't step in on an issue between two people but, crimson ghost >if you owe this guy a pick why won't you send him the pick? then you proceed >to insult his mother. i don't believe his mother was ever in the misfits, so here we go more people defending Wes Thomas. I don't recall his name being on the Jaime fund list. All the people that sent their addy's have been sent pics they should be recieving them in the next couple of days. And btw: Fuck Wes Thomas's mother, it's just a fucking insult. --->Wes Thomas 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu >Dear Crimson Ghost, > It's funny that you wish death upon my mother. Actually your mom's death wouldn't prove anything at this point. I only wish she could have died before she Fucked Satan and concieved you. Douchebag. --->Geoff Weasel <00gdwessel@bsuvc.bsu.edu> >Hey Crimsy, I know we didn't always exactly see eye to eye way back >when, but lemme assure you -- I don't know this guy. He's evidently >a jackass, and, again, people wonder why I think twice about saying I >go to this school.... (this comment was re: wes thomas..cg) Hey Geoff, welcome back! Tell Jim I said Hi. and thanks for the vote of confidence --->Andy Dempz Subject: MI show >OK, I may have read something wrong, but i thought the Misfits WEREN'T >playing Harpo's in Detroit. Funny thing is, now it's being advertised >here. What the hell's going on? A friend of mine was shot to death >there, this is fucked. >Andy Andy, I don't know what to say. It is fucked, the copy of the fax sent to Ken Kreite, that Jerry forwarded to me, was very specific on this subject. The last I heard was that Harpo's was out. I would suggest that all the detroit fiends send email in protest to Ken Kreite and let him know. Also any European feinds if you could ask Jerry what's going on with this that would be appreciated. Flames are all we ever get inside this fuckin place Flames are all we ever get - Why can't we have a change of pace? Flames...Flames for Lunch Flames for Breakfast..Flames for Brunch The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ #misfits channel op find me on Undernet every night around 9:30 or so Nick = CrmsnGhst I'll be in #misfits (of course) anyone who can't figure out irc email me I'll help ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 12:13:44 -0500 Subject: some gossip Here's a couple stories I think most of you will find enjoyable. About 8 years ago there was a guy in NJ named Sal ( I'll leave his last name out! ) who was selling the best 'Fits and related collection I've ever seen. He got most of this stuff off Bobby , if I remember correctly. Anyway , I didn't buy anything off him as he was WAY overpriced for 1989.However , I did speak with him on a couple occasions and he told me some very funny stuff . Now , keep in mind this guy is NOT very reputable as it turns out ( ask Bobby) , but he was the first guy to tell me Glenn's real name - so he does know some good info. Anyway , the first story that I found humorous goes like this. Sal lived something like 5 minutes from Glenn , so he calls Glenn up and asks him if it would be ok if he could come over with some records and get some autos. Glenn agreed . Well, Glenn opens the door to see Sal standing there with a box of about 100 or so records and freaked!! He just slammed the door in Sal's face w/out signing a thing! Haha!! I can't blame him! Eventually , Sal was able to get a couple autos. Secondly , Sal claimed that at one time Glenn owned a Hearse and kept it parked in the drive all the time since he didn't like to drive. So , this Sal gets the bright idea of going over and taking some photos .He gets over and starts taking some shots and realizes the Hearse isn't locked. The goofball gets IN the Hearse and starts getting some pictures of the interior! Next thing he knows , he hears this screaming and looks up to see Glenn charging out of the house with a bat!! He ended up getting chased down the street! Hilarious!! Once again , I can't really blame Danzig. Well , I hope you found those as amusing as I did. Wheter there's truth in them or not I can't really say , but that's what Sal told me in '89. He did sell out of all his stuff finally. Also , to the guy from overseas that enquired about foreign subscriptions to the 'zine , please email me back!! I lost your email address!! Fangs - Keith ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 03:10:43 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel King Subject: Sale I really, REALLY need money (I owe Mark about $50, right mark?) So I am selling 2 cd's... Misfits - Beware and the Rest <17 song bootleg CD> Misfits - Earth Ad Gold This is a auction, since I dont know how much this stuff usually goes for. The bootleg CD I payed $30 for, so I would like to get half that if possible. Email Gala@cris.com -Daniel King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 11:37:36 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel King Subject: K-Lined!?! I have no idea how the fuck this happened, but I got k-lined on us.undernet.org, so I cant visit #misfits unless I get some other servers, can someone send me a list? -Daniel King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 14:44:51 0000 From: dieter zandor