Misfits Bible, Number 151 Tuesday, March 12th 1996 Today's Topics: msg from Jerry / Bobby Steele Responses MISFITS U.S. Tour Misfitz of Ska black light 7" mar 21 gig distortion&sound Re: Lots o' shit cough cool MARS ATTACKS! lyrics What's this? Last Post. blah, blah, blah Contest winners Stuff and Bobby Steele stuff in general Box Set bbs3 assorted ramblings Box set Violent world, boxed ears Earth A.D. Vote For Your Top 5 MISFITS Songs!!! irc more replies Tour/Undead Help Wanted!! Re: Misfits Bible, #150 Re: Misfits Bible, #150 bobby Have a good sleep... detroit bobby stuff Help. Fiends danzig III non-pic disc Bible meetings at the Misfits Concerts! we are not sick men of asia Earth A.D. CD METAL MANIACS RE: Misfits Bible, #150 Re: Misfits Bible, #150 THE HEAT IS ON concrete corner Sex Pistols reunion!!! #150 The Box Set... Misfit Albums FOR SALE Metala Maniacs Misfits Silkscreens real quick... More Questions Michale Sorry Fiends Let's keep Bobby online! Box Set MiSFiT's Box Set just a few random comments and questions Help Me Please The Manimals ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:33:06 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: msg from Jerry / Bobby Steele -------A message From Jerry------ re: Detroit Shows First off a copy of a short fax sent to Ken Kriete: Ken, Harpo's is out..Bad Karma..Try the State Theater Jerry ask and you shall recieve fiends--cg Fiends, I was thinking about the message about Harpo's and that fiends would call us whores, I find that disheartening. How do we know what's up with a place if we never played there or never heard of it. Our number one concern is the welfare of our fiends, and their safety. Our goal is to have the most aggressive show on Earth without damage or loss of human life. Please fiends, be respectful to everyone. Keep us informed of all situations because we can only make decisions based on the data we have. If there's something we need to know then you must tell us. Harpo's holds 3000+ and would have been a huge show for Detroit, that's all we knew. I'd rather play to 50 people and have a good time than get anyone hurt. Understand that the loss in cash to downscale the venue is the least I can do for a just and noble cause. As always the Fiend Club has our total commitment. ----Jerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last week Bobby Steele wrote a considerable amount here's my response to him: Bobby, Since you are new to this list I'll introduce myself, I'm the Crimson Ghost call me Jim if you like or C.G., as most others do. I always liked your playing and never had a bad word to say about you until now. I find last thursday's post made by you to be...well... childish. I'd never argue with you about things that happened when you were in the band. But I will on things that I know about. You see I worked for Jerry & Doy's Dad up until 4/95. I saw Jerry everyday and as the head office type person I made sure he got all his faxes concerning anything. Needless to say alot of information passed under my eyes. I'm sorry I have to say this in a public forum but you decided to trash my friends in public. So I'm forced to reciprocate in kind. There are almost 700 fiends that receive this list and we try not to have too much bias. This post will attempt to shed some light on what you've said. I'm not trying to flame you. I've talked to a few other people on this one, so I'm not relying on my own memory. To the best my knowledge you were asked if you wanted to partake in the lawsuit. At the time I guess you thought it was hopeless and declined the offer. Well gee guess what, it wasn't so hopeless was it. What makes you think that you are owed anything that you didn't work for? I remember Frank & Jerry spred out all over the conference room with literally hundreds of papers for countless hours searching for anything that would be helpful. Your name was never part of any document, you were never listed as a plaintiff. When I read your post, having knowledge of the above, Your entire post just sounded like sour grapes. I couldn't help but think what a baby you sound like. I really think you should stop using your disability as a crutch. Why can't you just be Bobby Steele, not Bobby Steele with a disabilty. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, every interview I've ever read you've always pointed out that your a cripple, Why? Do you feel that you are so inferior that the only way you can get attention is by sympathy. Don't be a fool. We would listen to anything you have to say without having to feel sorry for you. You also came across sounding like you were begging, I didn't count, but how many times did you say that you were broke? Are we supposed to feel sorry for you about this fact too? Get a job. >THE UNDEAD do so well with ACT YOUR RAGE (which was released with >the $6,000.00 I got from selling my old 'FITS 45's), while KRYST >the CONQUERROR was a failure despite the limitless wealth that >Jerry has? I can speak for myself only on this but I really think that neither the Undead, Kryst, Samhain or Danzig even come close to the power & rage of the nucleus, The Misfits. As far as Jerry's limitless wealth, this is so laughable. You are so off base it's not even funny. I think I can speak with some authority on that matter. It's no body's business what anybody grosses so let's just say that the Kryst release was done on a typical DIY shoestring. Unlike you selling you Misfits collection Jerry worked his ass off in his old man's sweat shop to get that CD out. Kinda sounds like another band we all know and love, don't it. The scenario of Jerry working himself ragged so his band can do things is becomming all to familiar. As far as the Kryst vocalist issue goes. Any body with half a brain can listen to the record and hear that it's Jeff Scott Soto. You see Bobby, I can say that. Unlike Jerry I didn't promise the man that I wouldn't. What's your point with that comment? > I won't give out anybody's real names, home addresses or phone >numbers. I won't give info that might invade other's privacy, but >I will be truthful as to anything pertaining to my days as a >MISFIT, things I did - good or bad, right or wrong. The statute of >limitations is up, so I have no criminal charges to fear. Why didn't you just post that in the first place? That would have been useful information that everybody would have enjoyed reading. Instead you decided to make slanderous remarks about everybody else. Not only slanderous but libelous since the internet is viewed by the courts as written documents. and some of the remarks you've made are not beyond the statute of limitations. I have to be honest with you Bobby, I forwarded your post to Jerry & Co. Needless to say he was not too happy about the things that you said. I was going to post his reply to this list but I felt it was too harsh. It's nobody's business. This is between You, Jerry & Glenn, nobody else. Let's keep it that way. Everybody says your a great guy and all, but you just came across sounding pathetic. btw: You can get unlimited internet access for only $19.99/month I guess if you let up on your marijuana habit, as you so graciously informed us, you just might be able to afford some other things. I may not be able to get on irc as much as I usually do in the next few weeks. I'm doing the roadie gig w/ Buddy Miles & friends. Anybody that needs to talk to me please do so via email. The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ #misfits channel op find me on Undernet every night around 9:30 or so Nick = CrmsnGhst I'll be in #misfits (of course) anyone who can't figure out irc email me I'll help ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 18:24:08 -0500 From: She Subject: Responses As always, responding to the infinite amount of posts... Some of you fiends need to PAY attention... > this one's for Mark: > do you think it would be a good idea for the misfits or maybe eerie von to > release some kind of book with a shitload of photos. i mean, to me, and i > think to a lot of misfits fans, seeing pictures of the band (especially the > earlier ones) is almost as cool as hearing the songs. Hey, I think it's a great idea. Fiends, I try to let the band know when you have ideas that are good like this. What else can I do? You should let the band know too! Write to the PO box address. > this may be a bit anal to think about, but do you think the unreleased > alternate takes (like from the MSP and Fairlawn sessions) will ever be > released? one little cd would be enough to contain all of those songs. There are only 6 altnerate versions that I know of that weren't released. If Caroline got the tapes, they put the stuff out. Some tapes are not in their hands yet. > maybe all of us should start bugging the shit out of Caroline for this stuff. > does anyone know their email address? It's on the page of course. Their email address is - caroline@interramp.com and their page is http://www.caroline.com/ They do receive tthe Misfits Bible and they do post from time to time. > There are a number of discrepencies between the Bible discography and the > one in the Box. Any ideas on this? Though the non-plan 9 stuff is pretty > glossed over in the Box. The only difference between the discographies are on the Evilive 7" numbers. I can't figure out who's right. > From: The Mocellas > 2)mark...what's the deal with the new song(s) posting? i hope you can help > me and the rest of the fiends out here..new songs? rad! I was given lyrics to post so fiends will be able to recognize the songs at the shows. That's all. > 3)how many of the glow-in-the-dark seven inches are they planning on > pressing? i live in philly and can probobly see 'em at the trocadero when > they come(HOLY SHIT!), but i'll be really upset if i can't get one! Didn't I say last issue or so that there would be 10,000? > 4)what's the deal with the caroline sampler c.d. cover shown on the pit page? > does anyone know where i can attain one and/or what's on it? It's in the discography. 6900 of them were pressed. They include the Static Age version of Teenagers From Mars. You can't get it anywhere unless you're really lucky. > From: Nick Veauthier > Since I am one of the many who has not seen the new Misfits, I was just > wondering if someone could tell us what they sound like. I've read some of > the reviews, but I guess this is the "real" question "How does Michale > Graves compare to Glen?" Not that he should be a Glen clone, but how does It's always hard to describe how someone sounds. The best way to find out is to go to the show and find out. Basically he sounds similar to a young Glenn, but different in his own way. No 2 people will sound exactly alike. I have never heard anyone besides Glenn and Michale do the Misfits songs the way I'd like to hear them. He sounds great, and that's all there is to it. > From: Ceng > We Are 138 - This is killer! Fiends: This is a different version than > the one on Collection 2 and, I think, Beware. There is another > guitar track that enters (or is raised pronounced in the mix) right > before the 'solo' and continues to the end. It feels like a Jet > Airplane rushing through my head. Fiends, let's get this straight. These songs were recorded once. One time. There is no alternate version of "We Are 138" or "Last Caress" or "Return Of The Fly". If you like to pretend, then fine... However, one was taken from the master tape, and one was taken from the mixing tape, so there are audible differences such as the 2nd guitar which is more predominant on the Static Age tape. > From: michael kramer > Hey fiends, have a few questions. One, I sent my address to the fiend > club PO box in early February, any idea when I'll get my membership > package? You won't get it. Does anybody read my posts or the information on the page? The packages have all already been mailed out, except for a set of about 600 that will be mailed in April. All the people who made it to the membership package mailing were on the Fiend Club list by about Halloween of '95. > From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS > have not written in a while. As long as someone mentioned the lyrics > to "Return of the Fly," please explain to me how Glenn could possibly > be saying "Helen Delambre." If my ears our working ok there are only > four syllables in that part, so it couldnt work. Possibly "Delambre" > like Del-am-ba-ra but even that sounds wrong to me when I listen to it. It's French. You don't say crescent "Cres-Kent" do you? > The next thing probably should go to Mark but I'm sure others will be > interested as well. Mark, I was wondering if you could make a list of > who appears in all the photos of the box set and in what order. I know > Jerry, Doyle, Glenn, Bobby and to some extent others, but I think it > would be cool to put a face with all the other names. Just a suggestion, > anyone else curious? Come on, this should be easy! I don't put the pictures on the page for nothing. Okay, fine... anyone with a bass guitar is Jerry. Anyone with a microphone in their hand is Glenn. Page 1: Glenn and Bobby's arm Page 2: Glenn and small picture of Jerry Page 9: top - Jerry, Doyle, Glenn middle - Doyle, woman, Glenn, Jerry, mirror Doyle bottom - Jerry, Glenn, Doyle Page 10: Jerry and small picture of Doyle Page 11-12: Glenn, Jerry, Arthur, Doyle Page 13-14: left - Jerry top - Glenn bottom - Glenn, Jerry Page 15-16: top - Glenn, Jim, Franche', Jerry bottom - Jerry, Arthur (writing on wall in back), friend, Glenn, Doyle bottom - mirror image of same photo page 17-18: Joey, Glenn Page 19-20: top - Glenn, Jim, Jerry, Franche' middle - Jerry, Glenn, Doyle bottom - Glenn, Jerry Page 21-22 Jerry, scary man, Doyle, Arthur, Glenn Page 23: Glenn's boot > From: Bobby Steele > Jerry has? If the money isn't so important, as Jerry says; why > won't he give me even $5,000.00 of the $1,000,000.00+ that I've > been led to believe WE were given for COLLECTION II and the BOX > SET? Fiends - this money stuff is really none of our business and should/will be worked out by lawyers and contracts. However, I'm going to try to clear up some stuff here. Let's not speculate on who owes who. None of us have the facts, because it's none of our business. > I was never offered an opportunity to be in on the lawsuit, > although a member of SLAUGHTERED GRACE told me that Jerry named me > as a co-plaintif in the case. According to the band, they contacted Bobby in the late 80's and asked him to help. Bobby was not named as a plaintiff. > We've asked Both Jerry and his lawyer > to send us a copy of the court papers, but they keep putting us > off, so maybe he did sue for me and intends to keep my share of > that also. If he had nothing to hide from me, he'd give me the info > I request. Jerry has signed a non-disclosure agreement and therefore can't supply info. > TO TEEVIE #137: Relations between myself and Jerry are rotten. How > good can relations be with a person who's spent the past > fifteen-years slandering your name - with the sole intent of > destroying your ability to compete in your chosen career; and then > witholding AT LEAST $50,000.00 of advance money that's due to you > (but he's not in it for the money). Again... no advance money. > From: IANXRT@aol.com > WELL I WAS VERY UPSET TO FIND THAT I WASN'T GOING TO BE RECIEVING THE FIEND > CLUB PACKAGE. IF ANYONE WOULDN'T MIND GIVING THEIRS UP THEN I WOULD GRATFULLY > ACCEPT IT; I WOULD EVEN PAY $$ FOR IT. OR AT LEAST PHOTO COPY EVERYTHING THAT > COMES IN THE PACKAGE, PLEASE!!! IT WOULD EVEN BE GREAT TO SEE SCANS ON THE > MISFITS PAGE... PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT IANXRT@aol.com Hey Fiends, those of you who did receive a membership package received 2 copies of everything. Please share with your fellow fiends who didn't get the package. > From: Andrew Share > Just out of curiosity, what was the significance of the Max's Xmas show? > Why was this show the subject of so much anticipation and talk? I guess you missed about 109852 of the back issues. It was going to be released as a live album but wasn't because of overdubs. adios fiends mark ------------------------------ From: KenKriete@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:27:23 -0500 Subject: MISFITS U.S. Tour Misfits Headline Dates : Mon April 29 - Richmond, VA @ Twisters Tue April 30 - Winston-Salem, NC @ Ziggy's Wed May 01 - Washington D.C. @ The New 9:30 Club Thu May 02 - Philadelphia, PA @ The Trocadero Fri May 03 - Asbury Park, NJ @ The Stone Pony Sat May 04 - Providence, RI @ Club Babyhead Sun May 05 - Boston, MA @ The Middle East Mon May 06 - Danbury, CT @ The Sub Zero Tue May 07 - Lancaster, PA @ The Cahmeleon Fri May 10 - Toronto, Ont @ The Opear House Sat May 11 - Detroit, MI @ Harpo's Sun May 12 - Cleveland, OH @ The Odeon D.O.A. will be supporting on all dates. All shows should have tickets on sale at Ticketmaster no later than Monday or Tuesday. All shows are about $10 in adavnce. I think one or two are actually only $8.oo and only one is $12.00. Most shows will be $10 or $12. at the door, if they don't sell out in advance. Every show is all ages, with Boston @ The Middle East Club, being the only exception. That show is 18+, but they are pretty lenient there. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:43:57 -0600 (CST) From: Eric C Graham Subject: Misfitz of Ska hey, this is my first post. Yes, i'm a virgin to the bible. i've been reading for awhile and i don't know if anyone has mentioned it or not, but i'll tell ya about it anyway. my girlfriend just bought me this Cd on dill records called" Misfits of Ska." it was filed under "M" and has the misfits font on the side. it's a compilation of ska bands that dabble in punk. The picture on the disc is from the "Legacy..." CD. it's pretty funny, so if yr anyway interested in Skacore i recommend it. The best band is the Independents. they are supposed to be the "real" Misfits of Ska. I guess they dress like the 'fits and everything. They sound cool as hell. Their song on the comp. is called "Bloody night, Bloody knife," and it's about killing yr prom queen date!? Good shit! check it out. see ya love, eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:03:54 +0100 From: Franz Ardito Subject: black light 7" hello everyone, i'm Franz, the Italian fiend; I've read on Bible #149 that the Misfits are going to release their Black Light single at their concerts. Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to get to one of those gigs, because they're not going to tour anywhere reasonably near the place I live. I was wondering, is anyone willing to help me out and, when the moment comes, get an extra copy of the single (and the poster possibly) for me? I obviously will pay for everything...I will appreciate your help very much. I'm still waiting for my box set to get over here, reading about it on the Bible kinda tired me, i would like to hear it now...well i'm finished. bye Franz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 18:27:38 -0800 From: flex Subject: mar 21 gig hey fiends, guess what i got in my sweaty hands? yup, a ticket for the mar 21 show in stuttgart, germany. haw haw haw. if anyone else is going, please e-mail so we can meet. cheers flex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:25:42 +0100 From: vag1865@comune.bologna.it (Franz Ardito) Subject: distortion&sound >From: cbmed@cdx.net >Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:19:22 -0500 > >Can anyone suggest any fuzz/distortion pedals to me. Anything to get some >of the Misfits sounds. Well, I suggest you the dear old Tube Screamer TS10 by Ibanez, the puke-green one (if possible get the original one, not the new re-edition they made last year): it is not a very fuzzy, mosquitoe-like distortion, but instead it gives you a nice seventies kick-ass sound, especially if you crank your amp volume to 10. I think the sound it gives is far better than those new grunge/fuzz/metal/death/shit pedals that are coming out these last years. If you have a parametric eq boost all the freqs around 6300hz and keep quiet those around 1600hz, 2000hz, and 2500hz: you should get a nice punky/old misfits sound. Enjoy yourself Franz @@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@ @@@ @@@@@@@@ @@! @@! @@@ @@! @@@ @@!@!@@@ @@! @!!!:! @!@!!@! @!@!@!@! @!@@!!@! @!! !!: !!: :!! !!: !!! !!: !!! !!: : : : : : : : :: : :.::.: : e-mail: vag1865@iperbole.bologna.it ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Lots o' shit Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:20:15 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Duran > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:20:45 -0500 (EST) > From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS > Subject: Lots o' shit > > Hey fiends, > Just a couple of things I wanted to address, seeing as though I > have not written in a while. As long as someone mentioned the lyrics > to "Return of the Fly," please explain to me how Glenn could possibly > be saying "Helen Delambre." If my ears our working ok there are only > four syllables in that part, so it couldnt work. Possibly "Delambre" > like Del-am-ba-ra but even that sounds wrong to me when I listen to it. > The reason I ask is because my singer has no clue what to sing there, > so we just fake it with whatever. If anyone has an opinion let me know. > We'll (Devilock) will use your lyrics if they sound right. i'm sure it's sung as is. if you look at the other names mentioned: francois and cecille, you get the idea that the people are of french descent (forgive me, it's been ages since i've seen the original fly movies). given that, i'd always assumed that helen delambre was pronounced he-len de-lamb. any other ideas? > Hey. this is Bobby Steele. I'm only gonna be on here for the month > of March, 1996...to communicate with MISFITS and UNDEAD fans on the > BBS, or whatever it's called. The reason for this is that I got one > of these "free" sample discs to AOL; otherwise, I couldn't afford > to do this on my budget. Y'see, despite the claims of Caroline > Records, I still haven't received as much as a penny for having > been on COLLECTIONs I, II, and the 'BOX-SET', otherwise, I'd have > had my own E-mail address long ago. please don't take this as a shot at bobby, but (and maybe the old timers on the list will recall this) didn't someone once make a joke about how all the original fiends ran out of their 10 free hours? this was in response to someone elses question as to whether any of those fiends were on the bible at the time. )-{ gut-ripper }-( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 18:29:38 -0800 From: flex Subject: cough cool finally got an original copy of cough cool. could anyone who has an original copy please e-mail me so i can compare mine to yours - runout grooves and stuff - i just want to make 100% sure it's an original. thanx flex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:00:44 -0800 From: adam bodnar Subject: MARS ATTACKS! Most Misfits fans know that the Misfits record label PLAN 9 was taken from the Ed Wood Jr. film PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE. They probably also know that Tim Burton did a movie about Mr. Ed Wood Jr. Well, it turns out that Tim Burton is doing a movie called MARS ATTACKS! I wonder if Tim Burton is a Misfits fan, it sure would be great if he used the new Misfits song, also called Mars Attacks, in the movie soundtrack. Does anyone know if Jerry Only knows about the movie and if so, don't you think that the Misfits should have that song on the soundtrack. Both the Misfits and Tim Burton have that horror-style motif. The Fly ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 13:24:11 EST From: Ken Graf Subject: lyrics Hey fiends! Heard that some of you thought some of the lyrics in the box are not 100% correct. For the most part, they seem to be correct, but yes, some seem to be off. Such as in Angefuck, I always thought it was "Dry your thighs and we'll leave, this ain't nothin new anymore" instead of what they have on the sheet. Oh well, I could be wrong. One more thing, I read Bobby Steele's post from last issue. He seems very straightforward and willing to answer people's questions, and I think that it's great that we have an actual Misfit on-line. However, PLEASE, let's not let this turn into the Undead vs. Misfits Bible or the Jerry vs. Bobby Bible. Yes it's cool that Bobby is here, but I sincerely hope that in the future he does not take up 700 lines of bible space per issue. Just my opinion. MARK, any idea on how much tickets will be for the U.S. tour? Have a good one! --Lord Kenatos ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 11:09:02 -0800 From: "-;ceng{-" Subject: What's this? Last Post. Studio: Reel Platinum Client: Plan 9 Artist: Misfits Producer: G. Danzig Engineer: Bob ????a Side 1: Bullet Horror Business Teenagers from Mars Night of the Living Dead Where Eagles Date Vampira Skulls I Turned into a Martian Side 2: 20 Eyes Violent World London Dungeon Ghoul's Night Out Halloween Die, Die my Darling Mommy, can I go out and kill tonight? ... ***to me it might be the Plan 9 Walk Among Us.. Mark? Jerry? Bobby? Cindy? Marsha? ------------------------------ From: MACH@emuvax.emich.edu Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:49:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: blah, blah, blah Hey fiends, I just recently recieved my box set and i love it. But I am not here to tell you how great I think it is, or how it could have been better. You see, I have been reading the past few issues and I am sick of seeing the same regurgitated nonsense about the box set. It really is a waste of time to complain about the box set because there is nothing that can be changed now, so why bother. I would like to thank everyone at Caroline and the Misfits for creating such a masterpiece. Peace out. Randy Mach mach@emuvax.emich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:50:57 +0000 From: Jake Starr/ADAM WEST Subject: Contest winners Thanks to all who entered my t-shirt contest. I decided to make four second prizes as well to keep everybody happy. Anyway, the questions and answers were: 1) Name three songs from the Misfits first show at CBGB's in 1977? Bullet, Hollywood Babylon, West End Avenue, She, In the Doorways, Harpies in the Night, Feline Nursery 2) Name the songs that Lyle Preslar played guitar on Samhain's "Initium"? Black Dream, Macabre, Horror Biz, The Shift 3) Name the only band, according to the Misfits website, that has covered "Cough/Cool"? Now this was the tough one... yeah, right: ADAM WEST The first prize winner was Aaron "Horror Businessman." He wins the t-shirt plus two upcoming ADAM WEST 7"s. The second prize winners were Chris Hatcher "LordB", Gerry Blaylock, Daniel Rodrigues, and Jamil. These four guys will be sent one copy of each of the two new ADAM WEST 7"s. More info on those 7"s to come. Rest assured, most fiends will want them! Thanks to everybody for making this such a pleasant experience! ******************************************************** * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * * c/o Fandango Records * * 1805 T Street, NW #A * * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * * (202) 483-0065 * * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * * http://exclamation.com/webtrax/punk/misc/aw.html * ******************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:32:36 -0800 From: Neil McAllister Subject: Stuff and Bobby Steele Some stuff from the last Bible: B.F. Fama (am I spelling it right?) mentioned how he liked the version of "Hybrid Moments" on LEGACY better than the STATIC AGE version. Wrong, wrong, wrong!! Listen again to the LEGACY version... Glenn's shitty bass overdub has some kind of problem with feedback. As the song progresses, you hear this "BEEEEEEEEEEE" sound that gets louder and louder to the end of the song. It's not so noticable on the box set CD, but on my vinyl it was enough to make the song almost unbearable to listen to, after I first started noticing it. I think the STATIC AGE version is a much better recording of what's one of my favorite Misfits songs. TO BOBBY STEELE: ---------------- Man oh man. Where can I start here? Bobby, I don't know you, I don't know Jerry, and I don't know Glenn. I've spoken to Glenn on a couple of occasions, I've had some dealings/correspondence with Jerry and the new Misfits recently, but the first I've heard from you is your long diatribes in the last Misfits Bible. My impression of Glenn: Basically a very nice guy, but also very ambitious and apparently not above stepping on the backs of some (former) friends to get where he wants to go. I think he's basically gotten there by now, and more power to him if he wants to enjoy his situation and do as he sees fit. My impression of Jerry: A VERY nice and generous person, who loves showmanship and being in the limelight. He is very giving to his fans, and I DO NOT believe he's "in it for the money" as you say. My impression of Bobby Steele: A sorry, pathetic whiner. Bobby, you go ON AND ON about how much Jerry is in it for the money: "Look at poor, disadvantaged Bobby Steele, and then look at rich tycoon Jerry with his 'infinite resources', trying to cash in." I dunno Bobby, looks to me like the whole time everybody and his mother was walking around wearing Misfits T-Shirts, Misfits patches, Misfits whatever else, bootleg or otherwise, Jerry and his brother were working in a machine shop making craft knives. So what if they work for their dad? Where the fuck was Bobby Steele all this time? Playing rock star with some two-bit punk outfits, running around with his hair-sprayed hair and his leather pants looking like a late 80's Alice Cooper, and complaining about how poor he is. For years now I've read interviews with you where every time someone brings up the Misfits, you come out with this story, "They say I was doing all this stuff to fuck with them but look at me, I'm so poor I can't afford a grain of rice, how could poor Bobby Steele do anything wrong?" Oh, poor poor Bobby Steele. Look at how successful Glenn, and now Jerry, have become, and poor forgotten crippled Bobby Steele has to play his vintage guitars all by himself and nobody will help him out. Poor Bobby Steele, reduced to standing on a stage with a taped "back-up band", a guitar, his nine toes, and a tin can to toss quarters into. O, HOW MY HEART BLEEDS! Glenn Danzig is AFRAID of Bobby Steele! Glenn Danzig HATES Bobby Steele because he is a CRIPPLE! >choke< >sob< The Misfits doing a tour would make everybody tons of money... but only if they brought back Glenn and BOBBY STEELE! Bobby Steele is a CRUSADER for IMPORTANT ISSUES, against the BIG GOVERNMENT and BIG CORPORATIONS -- he's "little people", he's one of US! Unlike big, evil Glenn, Jerry, and -- what the fuck?! -- The fuckin' GO-GO'S??!! Bobby Steele is so broke he can't afford an E-Mail address -- see how the SYSTEM is KEEPING HIM DOWN, and not letting him speak his true and factual side of the story? Bobby Steele gave the Misfits "two years of loyal service"... and yet somehow he owns a piece of the Misfits, they wouldn't be the Misfits without him. Jerry needs Bobby Steele, because KRYST THE CONQUEROR was a FAILURE while the Undead were an unqualified success (unfortunately still leaving Bobby Steele as broke and pitiable as Oliver Twist). I can't speak for whether or not Bobby is owed money for the work he did on Misfits recordings. Until I have the paperwork in front of me I can make no comment on that one way or another, because that is 100% a legal and contractual issue, and nobody on this list is in any position to speak about that. Bobby, if you have legal problems with regard to getting paid for work you did on prior Misfits albums, that issue is between yourself, Jerry, and Caroline records. It is tactless of you to air those issues in a public forum, and probably your doing so is enough cause for legal action. It also tells me that you are unable to find appropriate redress through legal channels because your claims are unfounded, and that is why you choose to vent your dirty laundry in this fashion. I don't care how many asshole stunts Glenn Danzig has pulled in the past with regard to the Misfits, he still has a good measure of my respect. Now that I've gotten to know a little bit about what has been going on with Jerry and Doyle, they have the same. Bobby Steele has none of my respect. Please, whatever carpet you crawled out from under, go back. -- Neil McAllister (pcm2@sentient.com) San Francisco, California, USA ------------------------------ From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCONO" Subject: stuff in general Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 13:44:00 PST Fiends, First of all I've gotta recommend the vid. that Evan O'Brien is selling of the Misfits '95 Halloween show, it's the best quality Misfits vid. I've seen to date. Also for Nick Veauthier, this is a good way to find out how Michael Graves compares to Glenn. I think he fills the role pretty good, as far as vocals and stage presence. Also, Monday afternoon I got a call from Jerry....answering machine got the pleasure. I couldn't believe it, he called to inform me that he was out of the glow shirts (placed an order obviously) talk about fiend appreciation. How many other bands would call and let you know about your order. That's it- Later Chris ------------------------------ Subject: Box Set From: Chris Myers Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 12:16:14 AST Ok, SO I'm a big MetallicA fan, in fact they are my favorite band. But putting that and my love for punk aside....Doesnt it seem just a LITTLE odd that the Misfits Box set is as much as the MetallicA one? The Misfits box Set has 4 CDs, a pin, and a book, in a very cool coffin box. The MetallicA box set has 3 CDs, 3Video's, a 72 page book and a stencil, in a "sturdier" Mini-Road Case. Call me kooky, call me wacky, but it just seems a little odd they want the same amount for the Misfits box set, it should be a little less. ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:36:14 -0500 Subject: bbs3 Hey Fiends, Is there anybody out there who hasn't gotten the BOX SET, yet? I gotta say; ya gotta get this thing. It's the best - short of re-mixing the whole mess - which is a task none of us would want to take on. I've hardly had a chance to take disc 3 out of my player. I got two sets that have two disc 2's.. I'm convinced we need laws to stop drugs in the workplace... I spotted an error on my last post RE: RATTFINK. Here's the way it was supposed to go: to cbmed (#141) If you write to me and send me your address, I'll see if I can write down the RAT FINK solo for you if you can read music. It's actually very simple...just fast. If I had a scanner here, I'd draw a diagram. Anyway, I'll see what I can do. It's basically a 'B' triad at the 11th fret with a 'D#' lead note - then making it a suspended chord by using your pinky to make the D# into an E (same as the intro) Then I slide into a typical Chuck Berry/ Keith Richards lick on the twelfth fret(bending the A on the third string up to double the B and then striking the B and E together). I then repeated the same B triad riff, only I play it on the second, third, and fourth strings at the 16th fret, putting me in the right position for the final lick (which I took from Jimmy Page on "communication Breakdown") using the fourth finger on the third string at the 16th fret; I bend the note up to meet the C# on the second string at the 14th fret, then I pick the F# on the first string at the 14th fret (bar the 2nd and 3rd string with your index finger) then I pick the E on the 2nd string at the 17th fret (use your pinky), followed by the C# on the 2nd string at the 14th fret. While doing this lick, keep your first finger barreing the C# and F#. Practice this riff slowly at first until the notes are all staccatto and clear. Good luck - I hope that was clear. If you're in the New York area, you can come to a gig and I'll show it to ya if things aren't too crazy. Other news here is that this is having an effect on my relations with THE MISFITS. Their manager has been in touch with mine (how Hollywood - your people talk to my people). He was a bit upset that I might say things that'll hurt them. I instructed my manager to tell him that I'm only here to give you an opportunity to see what I'm really like, as opposed to the way I'm portrayed in their interviews. If they're upset about me talking about not being paid yet...pay me. It's as simple as that. They know I'm entitled to the money. I understand they're concerned about how they're gonna be accepted on this upcoming tour, so I've asked for them to give me some decent amount of money - as an act of good faith until we can get together after their tour. If they do, I'll let you know. It'd make me feel a lot better, than just more idle promises. The money would come in handy right now, since I'm trying to bring THE UNDEAD over the top now. I could even get my teeth fixed. The hardest part about this should be in the split of the Master Sound Productions (MSP) sessions. These were started with me playing guitar, and then Doyle came into the picture after I had laid down about 80% of what I wanted to do. So, I'm listening very carefully, and writing a detailed analyses of where I can point out my parts. Some things are obvious, while others are so poorly mixed it's almost impossible to discern what's there. We'll have to make some kind of compromise. Here's your next set of questions............ > From: Stewart Muir Gallacher <9243471G@STUDENT.GLA.AC.UK> > Fist off, i am a big fan of his playing, and the era > in which he played guitar is my favourite line-up- I think they > sounded the most original in this period, and his distinctive and > catchy guitar playing was a big part of this. > I was wondering what sort of equipment he used during his time in > the Misfits- I have NEVER seen a single picture of him onstage > with the band (apart from the shot of his arm from the box set) > and i have been curious as to what kind of guitar he used, etc.? > I am also a big Undead fan- my favourite tunes being Undead, > Little Slave to Fashion Stewart, Well, I answered the question on equipment on yesterday's post, hopefully you saw that by now. I guess there'll be some overlap with some questions. Thanks. I don't know if you have the Box Set in the U.K. yet, but when you get it, listen to what FRANCHE is playing on THEME FOR A JACKAL. That guitar is burned into the back of my mind. That's the part of the STATIC AGE recordings that I remembered best for some reason. ~~~~~~~~ > From: "ben messer (The Naptown Hellcats formerly stain)" > > This in regard to the questions for Bobby Steele. I just wanted > to say that I'm in the Naptown Hellcats (formerly Stain),band > that accidentally stole your guitar at sloppypalloza. I wanted > to apologize and say that the show kicked ass without seeming > like I'm sucking up or kissing ass, but I guess that's pretty impossible > given the circumstances. However I want to know how long you had > that guitar and if it's the guitar you used in the misfits. Is the > Undead back together? If so will you be touring again soon? If you > come to Indy again we won't steal your guitar. We promise! Thanks > for your time. > Ben Messer Ben, Stop! Thief!!! You're one honest fuckin' guy. You don't know how relieved I was to get that guitar back. YEAH! That was THE PAUL that I played in the MISFITS. In fact, it's the one in the picture of my arm - in the Box Set. Back then, it had the original wood finish. I painted it black in 1980, and after I got 'the boot' I put that guitar away - in my parents basement - and forgot about it. I re-discovered it in '89. Thanks! There's a lot of memories in that guitar. I'm hoping to have THE UNDEAD back together in time for summer. I sure hope we get to play Indy. SLOPPYPALOOZA was quite a memorable experience. Even without having my guitar 'stolen'. Before anyone gets the wrong idea, I better explain. Last July; when THE UNDEAD played at Sloppypalooza, my guitar disapeared after the show. I flipped out!! I had that guitar since THE MISFITS, and it was one of my favorites. I remembered seeing another guitar case in the dressing room. It looked almost exactly like mine - right down to where the covering was torn. I figured that whoever owned that other guitar was the one who had mine too. I heard that Ben & the STAINS nearly shit when they realized the mix-up. Of course we were back in New York when the Stains called Steve Sloppy and told him what they'd done. Luckily, my parents were gonna be driving through Indy the following Sunday, so they made a slight detour and picked it up for me. That gig was a rush. But the heat!!! Next year, they should have a benefit to buy an air conditioner for that place. I almost blacked out a few times during 'Bullet'. That was the best time I've had since playing Louisville, in '90. You better believe I want to go back there. **************************************************************** Thanks again. Keep those questions coming in. As I get the hang of this whole e-mail thing, I'm getting to like it. This is a lot easier than, answering regular mail. If these guys pay me, I'll be able to set up a permanent e-mail address. My friend, COREY, is setting up a TIMES SQUARE web site. Currently, he's just gonna have gig info, but as we get it together, we'll be adding photos, and possibly .wav files, so you can hear the new stuff. Our next gig is a benefit for the Heart Association on Sunday, March 10, at Kenny's Castaways at 10:00pm. We'll be celebrating my birthday on March 16th at the SPIRAL, 244 E Houston St, NYC at midnite. If you want to write to me after this is over my address is: P.O. BOX 358 NEW MILFORD, NJ 07646 IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN BOOKING THE UNDEAD OR TIMES SQUARE, EITHER E-MAIL ME THROUGH THIS PAGE, OR CALL (201)262-7558 This is the number at Post Mortem Records, and I check the messages every few days. Please, since I am broke right now, keep the calls to business or auditions. THANKS BOBBY STEELE ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: assorted ramblings Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:54:36 -0500 (EST) well i finally got the box set, was well worth going over my credit limit. i really didn't like discs 1&2 much, as i've got that stuff, but i guess its easier then playing around w/ the vinyl. disc 3 was great. did anyone else notice the intensified cymbals and snares on TFM & CIH? or was it me? static ages was great also, a pain in the arse to get open tho. i liked the design, sorta chessy, but then again i like that sorta thing. also who cares about if you scratch the box set a lil? what are you more interested in selling in later on or listening to the music? also while eerie's notes won't win the pultzier they are great. it was written from a fans perspective, not some 3rd party. on another note i was so geeked to see detroit on the mini-tour, and then i saw where at and called jerry all sorts of names. all of which he deserves. about harpo's they don't deserve a bands as great as the 'fits. imho, and many others once they hear the venue, it will look as if jerry has sold out. the reason why? back in january a friend got shot and killed outside harpo's, the bouncers did nothing. if jerry really is in it for the fans, not the $15+ that ever harpo's show gets, they he'll understand why he should change it. it's a slap in the face to most people who'd wanna see him, as many, including me will never go back to harpo's. also if he cares about his fans then he won't want them to get shot at, and possibly killed. anf if he ain't in it for the fans, but the $$$, then look at it this way, he'll lose at least 500 people from showing up, thats over $5000. i personally wanna think he's in it for the fans, but if he still plays at harpo's i'll have grave doubts. if anyone knows him, please call him and explain the situation, or he might be the next punk lying on a gurney in detroit. sorry to rant but it just struck me as really, really odd that harpo's was picked, and i hope it gets switched. also i've noticed on earlier relaeses the name of the bands was simply 'misfits', but on collection II and the box set it's 'the misfits.' does this signify a change? or is it just packaging? oh yeah i agree w/ cg on something, listening to the box set whil having sex is a good idea. -- Paul Hahn Dostoevsky should have written hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu for the Dukes of Hazard Check out the speedball page @ http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul/speedball ------------------------------ From: Jerryonly3@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:01:46 -0500 Subject: Box set is the box limmited or anything or can you get it at any store? Also does anyone know when The Misfits are going to play in Boston Mass.? A Fiend, The Maxx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:56:03 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: Violent world, boxed ears The "missing" verse to Violent World can be found on the Misfits page... When the opportunity comes Can't afford to rot everybody (X2) These lines are indeed missing from the WAU liner notes, and I noticed they were absent from the box set lyrix too. Man, everybody just needs to be tied up and forced to look at the web page thoroughly just once. I just noticed today the box lyrics for Spook City are wrong too... was this Jerry's interpretation, or some Caroline flunkie working the graveyard shift with eight cups of coffee? I had some more crap to spew on about but I'm beginning to bore myself. I'm off for spring break... have fun everybuddddy Teevie >;0) "Misfits? Didn't they cover Metallica??" is still better than "Didn't they cover G'n'R??" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:26:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Dycus Subject: Earth A.D. For some reason, I was led to believe that the box set was going to have the original version of Earth A.D. I'm dissapointed it turned out not to be on there. Does anyone one know if there's any hope of this being released? After the hearing the difference between Static Age and Legacy of Dubbing, I'm really dying to hear the REAl version... Ed ------------------------------ From: "Lowe, Thomas B." Subject: Vote For Your Top 5 MISFITS Songs!!! Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 19:13:00 PST Hi fellow fiends! I know you all are all fired up about getting your new boxed sets containing every Misfit track. Well, if you wanna vote for your Top 5 Misfits songs go to the web page address below and cast your votes! http://rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de/~smehnle/top10 Have fun, Unholy Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 02:27:53 -0500 From: Jason Appleby Subject: irc Don't forget to check out #misfits, and stay for the tossed salad!" -- Jason Appleby Toronto, Canada jay@interlog.com check out my tape trading list on the web at http://www.interlog.com/~jay/tradel~1.html ------------------------------ From: Bobby Steele Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:47:55 -0500 Subject: more replies Fiends, Here's a little small talk for ya. If you live in New York; or if you're just visiting, here's a few recommendations: My favorite restaurants: ROYAL INDIAN CUISINE - First Ave between 5th & 6th STs. TAJ MAHAL - 328 EAST 6TH St (between 1st & 2nd Ave's) RAJ MAHAL - 322 East 6th St " " ITALIAN: CI VEDIAMO - AVE 'A' between 5th & 6th ST's CALIFORNIA PIZZA OVEN - 122 University PL SAL"S PIZZA - Ave 'A' at 7th ST ($1.25 /slice) FALAFEL: anyplace is good, but the best is HABIB's - 9th ST near ave. 'A' they go the extra -distance, using more fillings than just iceberg lettuce and tomatoes COPIES: KINKOS - 12th ST between University & FIFTH Ave. UNIQUE COPY CENTER - Greene St between Waverly Pl & EIGHTH St. COMPUTER: COMP-U-TIME - 121 University Pl. if you use a PC, this is the best place. None of the other places know how to configure their PC's, so what should take 2-minutes to print can take an hour. These guys know PC's. They have MACs too. ******************************************************************* This is getting good. It's not at all what I expected. I thought there would be more of a confrontation with some die-hard fans, who believed all the negative stuff that's circulated about me for so long. It looks like I might have even been re-united with a long-lost friend. Are there any more of you out there? Here's the next round of e-mail. > From: gerry blaylock > Subject: ?for bobby > i was wondering about the insert on the horror business. do you know > what the "strange noises" were actually caused by? > gerry Shitty recording. Here's the background to the Haunted House story. We did the mix of that stuff on the Monday after Sid Vicious died. Jerry had been helping Sid's mom all weekend, so he wound up bringing her to the studio. I think she had a bottle of either Vodka or Gin (a fifth). We had our Bacardi & Coke, plus a joint of Pot, Hash, and Coke. This wasn't the smartest move. As we set up the mix; one of us would point out 'I can't hear the snare' - so we turn up the snare. 'Now I can't hear the guitar - turn it up. We never thought of the idea of turning anything down. When everything was on 'ten', we had to settle on the mix. After the record was mastered, and the stampers were made, we decided to go on colored vinyl. What we didn't know was that different pressing plants used different machines, and different stampers. We wound up sending the wrong kind of stampers to the pressing plant, so, I believe, they had to make up a new stamper from the wrong one we sent them, and it further affected the sound quality. When the records came in; me and Joey were upset at the sound quality, and didn't want it to come out like that. But we'd already sunk all this money into 2,000 yellow records. We sat down and thought about how we could handle this without losing our shirts. That's when we came up with the idea of making up some kind of cool story about the record. I suggested that we say it was recorded on the anniversary of Edgar Allen Poe's death, which Glenn thought was kinda stupid, so we came up with the 'haunted house' story. Dave Street wrote the insert, Glenn laid out the artwork - and voila! a CLASSIC!! ( I remember looking up E. A. Poe in an encyclopedia, and we DID record on the anniversary of his death) ------------------------------ From: "Thomas A. Bailey" Subject: Tour/Undead Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:53:59 -0500 (EST) For all of you fiends out there, though I have been a fan of the Misfits for a few years now, I have not kept up on all of the other side projects that former members have been involved in. What I wanted to know is if anyone out there can give me an idea of what Bobby Steele's project, the Undead, sounds like? Do they sound anything like the Misfits at all? >From his last entry on the Bible, I became interested, but didn't really want to spend the money on the disc if it's something I'm not going to like (I have enough school loans to pay off as it is). Tom B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:47:12 -0800 From: Richard Hinojos Subject: Help Wanted!! Guitarists/bassist/musicians wanted to work on Mark's page's TAB. Rob and I started on the TAB, hoping that maybe some other musically inclined people may contribute. A few have (thanks!), but there are still a lot of holes left. Please quit bitchin about what's not there, and contribute a little. :) boxset: uh... eh. disc three was nice, and the static age, but where's WKM?/Spook City? Ryq poltergeist in the middle of the hallway... ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 18:07:22 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #150 This is an open post to all the fiends: Am I the only one who is getting sick and fucking tired of all this bullshit about money between all the members and former members of the misfits? I mean jesus, I wish everybody could just act like adults and work this whole thing out. If Bobby is entitled to money, (which he is) give it to him for christsake, I mean, it's not going to break anybodys bank if the guy gets paid right? And quit with the arguing. I wish everybody would just shut up. I just wanna listen to the music, and if the new music is as good as the old stuff, great. I think it is time for everyone to just put the egos aside and get all the financial bullshit and slandering out of the way so that the misfits could do their thing, Bobby could do his thing, and Danzig could do his thing. FUCK. I think im gonna drop out of the human race because you are all making me fucking sick. Roger Holmes ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 17:02:41 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #150 This post is to Matthew Leitman, Im glad to hear you got your box set through CDnow with no problems. I ordered it over the internet a couple of days ago and I can't wait to get it. I know what it's like not being able to find any Misfits stuff here in Canada. So what do you think of the Spectrum canceling on the band? Aren't there any other venues that could hold them in Montreal? I drove up there a couple of times in the last few years to see the Ramones. They played at the Metropolis and I think that would be perfect for a Misfits show. And I heard someone say earlier that there is only a live version of Horror Hotel on the box set? Is this true? If so, what is the version on Collection II like? If anyone could let me know the answers to these questions I would appreciate it. Tks Roger Holmes ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:28:58 -0500 Subject: bobby i must say i was flattered to see bobby respond to one of my posts. (i'm not worthy...) for what it's worth, bobby comes in a strong second. i like the way he uses those full 6 string barre chords, and as far as leads, he was/is far better than any other misfits guitarist, but i like the simplicity and stange feel to franche's. i would also like to appologize for having bashed bobby in the past because of stuff i'd head about him. hopefully everyone will follow suite because obviously bobby is a cool guy and deserves it! if you haven't heard any undead stuff, you should really check it out! it's great stuff! Don "Evil" Dieffenbach ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 96 19:19:03 PST From: Barry Beitz Fiends, I have a few sightings for ya. I'm a very big fan of Juliette Lewis (you know, the killer babe in Natural Born Killers, and I mean "killer" literally;)) and so I see every movie that she's in. The most recent movie she was in was "Strange Days." Near the beginning of the movie a guys walks by on the street with a Crimson Ghost shirt on. Also, in the movie "Too Young To Die", Juliette is wearing the "Die Die my Darling" shirt. I nearly busted a nut!! Juliette being very fun to look at because she's real pretty was now wearing a Misfits shirt. Two of the greatest things on Earth together. WOW!! And the most creepy, my sister told me that she was getting issued a textbook at our school (an old school established in the 50s or 60s) and there was a name in it from 1980 that read "Gerri Doyle"!! Do you believe that? Either it was a real Misfits fan or a person with a really cool name! Man, I feel like I've sinned to the Misfits for not buying the box set yet. From all the reviews you guys gave, I think I'm gonna use my saved up lunch money for it instead of buying more spikes and pyramids for my denim (we can't all afford leathers, ya know). And finally, guys I know yer proud of yer straight-edgeness, but do we need huge "sXe" symbols at the end of your posts? I don't have a humongous "BEER DRINKER" sign though I enjoy the pleasures of alcohol. It just seems like yer bragging when you "X" up your hands at shows and write "sXe" everywhere. Oh well, I'll shut up 'cuz it doesn't bug me that much. -JON "Posing for the cameras, Posing for the postcards/ We lower ourselves to a parody of what society wants us to be/ They don't want to know that punk means FREEDOM!!" -FILTH -"Lust For Glory" PS- Email me if you're willing to sell a copy of Creepy Compilation (or trade, all I have is a Misfits concert on Halloween in Bethlehem, Pa in '82 and a Germs concert video from Dec 1979 (their last?). The Germs vid is only about 20 minutes and has cuts throughout the concert. Sorry! I didn't do it. I paid $25 for the damn thing!!). My Email address is : beitz@crl.com Thanx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 20:54:03 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Have a good sleep... This can go into the next bible issue : Black Aria did make Billboard #1 for the classical section, and i will find the copies of the magazine and scan it for you. The pieces were even played on classical radio stations. That says a lot for a first time attempt for that style. He also did go to Marvel and was turned away (not he first person, one of my friends was ask by Marvel to come then turned down there in NY.)now he has his own comic book company. There are so few driven people in this world that strive to achieve. That is a hard act to follow. Though my way has always to give a person a chance. I do not judge blindly. Well i hope you had a great time going home and i'll talk to you later. Tammy ------------------------------ From: ABLOINK@emuvax.emich.edu Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:08:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: detroit For all of the Fiends in the Detroit area 2 words:BE CAREFUL! I know we're all going to be in attendance on May 11 at Harpo's, but if you haven't been there before use caution. Aside from it being in a shitty area and the fact that one of the guys from the fiesty cadavers(I apologize, but I don't remember his name)getting blasted with a shotgun a while back, the bouncers are complete dicks and they WILL hurt you. I have witnessed them using lead pipes on people before. Harpo's is the last place I would have liked to see the Misfits play. P.S. I guess I really got a deal on my box set--$38.00 with tax. ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 13:39:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: bobby stuff I dont know what to think about some of the venom Bobby unloaded with last issue. I mean from all accounts both he and Jerry seem like great guys. If what Bobby says is true about not getting paid, that bugs me. I hope Bobby can get some cash from the box set. In an earler bible it was reported that bobby was offered the chance to be in on the lawsuit but he denied. If Jerry an Doyle are getting paid, I think Bobby should too. What Bobby should do is get on the ball, call caroline see what info he can get out of them, Get in touch with Jerry's lawyer and get all court papers he can, Maybe get his own lawyer (Yeah,i know, there is no way he can afford one. Maybe New york has some free legal help out there somewhere, it's worth a shot.) What Bobby should not do is speculate on stuff like how much of an advance the 'fits got, or that Jerry is hoarding Bobby's money, I think Bobby should definitly gets some facts about all this stuff. Can anybody on the bible give us a lesson in royalties? I'd like to know more about this. I'd like to think that Bobby, Glenn, Jerry, everybody could all be friends and all get paid for there hard work but I realize there are a lot of things going on that i dont have a clue about. Maybe Bobby will pick up some royalties eventially from the box set since i think royalties Dont come out for months at a time. The Noss asked about Helen Delambre. the name is French, they dont pronounce it like us ugly americans Del-ahm. Here's hopeing this works out in everybodys favor jamil ------------------------------ From: APSegal@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 22:47:13 -0500 Subject: Help. Can anyone help me identify a tape I have? It's a studio session that doesn't seem to be on the sessions disk of the box set. Let me describe it. About12 years ago I got this tape from a friend. It has the entire Static Age LP on it, followed by trackes 4-7 of the sessions disk in the box set, followed by these tracks: The first song is 20 eyes. There are really full guitar strums on the first down beat of each measure. Also, the galloping snare right before the vocals kick in on all the other versions I've heard is totally absent. And, it sounds like the drummer is riding on the snare a little, a kind of rockabilly feel. The second track is I turned in to a martian. There's tons of reverb on the vocals. The 1-2-3-4 that's usually on the snare at the beginning is all on the toms. Big full guitar strums again. The third track is Astro zombies. There's a false start for 3 or 4 chords followed almost immediately by the real start. The first time Glen says "astro" in the first verse, the bass hits a really sour note. The words "exterminate" are overdubbed with a really loud, spoken voice. The next track is Nike a go go. On the intro, the snare gallops have a real rockabilly swing, not like the machine gun style on the walk among us version. There's lots of constant feedback, and the last shouted "over" is just "Oh" on this version. Next is All hell breaks loose, same general style. Last is Devil's whorehouse. The accented echos are very loud and the high pitched backing vocals are not together with the lead vocals in a lot of places. At the very end there's some very high pitched, very echoed snare slaps. I compared these to the sessions disk, and the other releases, and it's definitely not among them. Anyone know what this is from? Send a message to apsegal@aol.com. Thanx in advance, -Adam S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 00:29:09 -0500 From: She Subject: Fiends I was just thinking of something. I remembered the chorus lines to ca couple unreleased Misfits songs from '77. Would anyone be interested in re-constructing lyrics for these songs? Originally, when "Spinal Remains" was "Feline Nursery", the chorus went something like this - "I'm gonna throw away the key to the Feline Nusery". "Harpies In the Night" had a line like "We scream like harpies in the night." any guesses? mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:19:22 +0100 From: Anders Soelvberg Subject: danzig III non-pic disc The Danzig III non-pic disc CD appears to be the European version of How the Gods Kill. The European has only black writing on the disc (negative of Thrall- Deamonsweatlive), and either a black or a clear sticker on the jewel case (varies with print). Number is 512 270-2, and is printed in Germany. Elsewise, identical to the American print. Wolverine ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 96 11:05:20 EST From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@compuserve.com> Subject: Bible meetings at the Misfits Concerts! Has anyone come up with a plan to organize a meeting of Misfits Bible readers at each of the Misfits concerts? I know that myself, Paul Hahn and Andy Dempz are all from Michigan and I sent them a personal invitation to meet me at the show to talk. I would like to hear from any other Misfits bible readers that will be at the Michigan/Detroit show as well. Out of 650 there should be a few more! Also, people in other states should do the same. Just get someone familar with the bar to set up a time and place - or just go to the T-shirt area and scream for BIBLE READERS. Everyone might think we are religious nuts but who cares? Paul Holstein 102165,134@compuserve.com ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:36:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: we are not sick men of asia Well i know you fuckers hardly ever read anyone's posts these days but spare me a minute. I wasn't goin to buy the box set until I actually read your posts. You guys actually talked me into buying it: and I'm glad i did, so thanx. We're all a little poorer now but it seems that everyone agrees that this set kicks ass! cd 1 is cool for me because i never had collection 1 and I've only heard it once and that was back in 1989. I'd forgotten but i still think the best version of Where eagles Dare is on here! And this cd is cool because it starts with She and ends with We Bite, kinda a first and last song ever cycle (yeah i know cough/cool was the first song but still this is neat to look at how the songs evolved.) cd 2 why legacy? if it is their best-selling album (so jerry has said) why include it? if it sells so well then i would assume most fans have it and put something else on there. But still, Evilive is on here, so how can i complain, and more importantly, Earth AD is here! Still that is one of my faves; glenn's thrashy direction died to quickly, i think. cd 3 rips ass!! The shit with Bobby makes the collection! I'd read since the early bibles how all of you think his NOTLD is the best version, & i pretty much aggree, but that snare needs to be toned down a little, i think. Anyway, his vampira and violent world on here are the 2 best versions of those freakin songs! And the slower version of turned in to a martian? best one ever! Same goes for the myx-o-lydian Nike! cd 4 is cool but i disagree that this would be the best Misfits album. I still gotta go with Walk among us. Sure, Static is great, but overall, I think Walk is the peak of the 'fits. Best songs, catchiest choruses, still aggressive, & their image was there & dominant. I think if any Fits album would have changed the punk trends of the time it would have been Walk, not Static. But ya never know. Oh yeah the booklet, great too. The cover is cool as hell & now i just gotta ask when's this gonna be a poster and/or t-shirt? OK here's my obligatory question: back in 1989 i remember reading an add in a magazine (maybe rip) for the misfits fan club. I guess now it was probably the doyle fan club. I sent for the package they offered (i don't remember if it cost me anything) and I can not remember everything i got! I do know there was a pushead poster of these pygmy heads and maybe a letter, now in hindsight i think it was an ad for the Kryst album, but at the time i had no idea what kryst the conquerer or even who doyle was! (remember i didn't have a cd player then, just tapes, & there is no listing of members in earth ad, and my walk was a dub of someone else's so again i had no idea of the names of the guys in the band, just danzig.) I think there were some tassle wrist bands in there, maybe a pick? Anyway, what I'm wondering is, does anyone know if this was the doyle club, or maybe the kryst club i was getting stuff from? Maybe does anyone have any idea what exactly was in that package? Maybe someone on here got it too. Anyway, I guess i had to buy something to remain on the list cause i never heard from them again. If anyone knows more about this, let me know, and in case you're wondering i have no idea where that pushead poster is now, which is surprising cause I like his stuff a lot. Oh yeah, Mark, keep that guy's proposal of selling the Black Light 7" yourself in mind. I plan on seeing them in DC but there's always the chance I won't be able to get myself a copy. If you are selling them like he said only one or 2 per person i think that'll solve a lot of problems. Right, then, joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:29:36 -0600 (CST) From: Legion Subject: Earth A.D. CD Hey Fiends! I was wondering if anyone knew how to get a hold of the Earth A.D. CD, or if anyone would be willing to sell it? Lately, I've been trying to spend time and money building up more of a collection and was just curious as to if any of you could help. I hope everyone is enjoying the box-set; I just was able to obtain mine through the local music store, as it took Caroline a bloody WEEK and 1/2 to ship it out after the release date! But it was DEFINITELY worth the wait! Yours fiendishly, Legion (we are many) ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:31:56 -0500 Subject: METAL MANIACS In the "June" edition of "Metal Maniacs" is 3+ page article on the Misfits. It doesn't have too many new facts that most of us don't already know but there are some cool pictures such as a close up of Michale Graves on the mic and one of Jerry and Doyle on the set while filming the "pilot" for their horror movie series. That's the best one of all (to me at least). They're sitting at a long, rough cut table supported by what looks to be stone slabs and gargoyles and covered by skulls and assorted other bones. Each of them is sitting in an electric chair. Whoever wrote the article referred to Franche Coma as "Franga Coma"(?). Jerry also accuses (in a round-about way) Bon Jovi of stealing a quote from him and using it as their new album title: "Keep the Faith" because he used to end letters with the phrase "Keep the Faith, Jerry Only." My baby sitter used to use that phrase years ago. Maybe it's a New Jersey thing. I don't know. Anyway, it's a pretty cool article all in all. It's too bad no other "big" publication is doing pieces on them. Fangoria should even do one on them instead of doing articles on "Tremors 2". And, now that Bobby Steele is listening, I'd just like to apologize on behalf of all Misfits fiends for the jerks on line at the signing who gave you a hard time on line because of your handicap (they yelled something mindless like "Nice shoes" ...). You gave the fans some of your time and was great to all who met you but I guess that doesn't count for much with some people. I'd never been interested in the Undead but after meeting you in person, decided to order one. Anyway, that's about it ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:28:39 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #150 Julian Baldry- please e-mail me, where are you???? adam kriney kriney@uhavax.hartford,edu goatboy ptyc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:48:18 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #150 Funk Master W.E.T. in the motherfucking house my biiaatches. So here's the little piece of heat I got burning the top of my damn skull. When your cock is as fuckin' huge as mine how do you get in a whores ass without making the fucker spurt blood like some kind of stuck pig? Fuck, Fuck, Fucking dat ass. What do you ignorant bastards think of that whole situation in Tiawan? That's right, I BE A MAN OF THE WORLD! I know that you all fear me. I can tell by all the fucking typo's. If you flame me I'll send your "punks" adresses to one hundred different religious foundations with a request to save your souls on it. They'll never let up.Never. Wes "I LOVE JAID" Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:48:21 -0500 From: Bobby Steele Subject: THE HEAT IS ON Fiends, Another crazy New York weekend. If it snows again - I'm gonna get a gun and kill the entire weather bureau. Enoughs enough. It looks like there'll be a TIMES SQUARE 45 coming out soon. We're negotiating a one-off licensing deal with a local label. I've gotten some email at my address, but I want to explain. This'll be more fun, and informative if you keep all your questions and comments on the MISFITS bbs. If you have a personal message, just let MARK know it's personal - or wait til the last week of March. I'll give out my email address then, and you can send me your personal messages, but for now I'd appreciate it if you'd just keep this on the BBs - so everyone can share in the exchange. Believe it or not, I'll be turning 40 on March 18th. ...yeah, 40! youre not nearly as surprised as I am. I never thought I'd make it past 25!! We'll be celebrating on Saturday, the 16th at the SPIRAL 244 Houston St, NYC after Midnight. Come on down and join us. Last week, I was reunited with Pat Ragan; an old friend from my MISFITS days. If there are any more of you out there - email me now. I'm still searching for Robbie Alter - the producer of the MSP sessions, and Danny Zelonky, who produced the SONGSHOP session. The last I heard, Danny was in Detroit; and Robbie was selling computers in the Miami area. If anybody has any info on these guys, let me know. Here's one for the PMRC... About ten years ago, I saw some schoolkids interviewing the Pope. He was asked what kind of music he listened to. He finished his answer with "I like ROCK"!! And if that's not enough, It's just been released on the wire services that the Pope just bought 100 pairs of DOC MARTENS. IS THE POPE A PUNK? And just in time for THE MISFITS tour. Maybe we should start a petition to canonize SID VICIOUS. I asked for trouble; I got trouble. Neil McAllister, from San Francisco sent me a scathing critique of how he perceived my behavior. Quite an eloquent dude, too. > From: Neil McAllister > Subject: Stuff and Bobby Steele Neil, That's a well written letter. I appreciate your effort. You don't know me, you don't know glenn, and you don't know Jerry, but you say you've spoke with Glenn, and corresponded with Jerry; so you've already given them a chance. Thanks for finally giving me a chance. >My impression of Glenn: Basically a very nice guy, but also very ambitious >and apparently not above stepping on the backs of some (former) friends to >get where he wants to go. I think he's basically gotten there by now, and >more power to him if he wants to enjoy his situation and do as he sees fit. Hey, Glenn is basically a nice guy, and I think You're the first person I've seen who says so. What gets me is that you seem to admire him for a lot of the wrong reasons. How would you feel if he put a gun to your head, took your money and raped your girlfriend. Would that be acceptable to you? After all, it shows ambition and an ability to get where he wants to go, too. Glenn could've gotten a lot farther if he just relied on his talent. There's a saying in the entertainment business, "be careful how you treat the people you meet on the way up; they're the same people you're gonna meet on the way down." I have a lot more respect for him than you know. I've defended him on numerous occaisions, when I felt people were being unfair. >My impression of Jerry: A VERY nice and generous person, who loves >showmanship and being in the limelight. He is very giving to his fans, >and I DO NOT believe he's "in it for the money" as you say. I'm gonna try to handle this diplomatically. If Jerry is such a nice and generous guy, I don't understand why he didn't help Jaime out with the $150.00 he needed to get to NYC, after helping Jerry set up the whole MISFITS DINNER. Why are the ticket prices so high? And why doesn't the NICE GUY pay me. He keeps saying he's gonna do it, but why the stalling? >My impression of Bobby Steele; a pathetic whiner. I hope I don't sound like I'm whining.I'm just trying to set the record straight. After all, it was their record company that emailed this BBs to say that we all got our money. I'm just saying 'it's not true' Joey Image hasn't gotten paid either. Caroline told my manager that, when Jerry got paid, he assured them he would contact me and give me my cut. He didn't. >Jerry and his brother were working in a machine shop making >craft knives. So what if they work for their dad? Where the fuck was >Bobby Steele all this time? Playing rock star with some two-bit punk >outfits, running around with his hair-sprayed hair and his leather pants >looking like a late 80's Alice Cooper, and complaining about how poor he >is. It's good you read my bio. I don't think anyone who's seen or heard THE UNDEAD would call it a two-bit punk outfit. I do damn good - considering my limited resources. And I never COMPLAINED. I'd hate to see how you would 've handled the same situation. If you read the bio more carefully, you'd see that the writer is talking about my ability to survive. Maybe Jerry and Doyle worked the machine shop 'cause they were sick of the music biz. Jerry did denounce THE MISFITS at least at one point that I know of. There's nothing wrong with being rich. And there's nothing wrong with wanting what's yours either. While they were working at the machine shop - to make money - I was still making music, which I love. I hope that, one day, my music gets me out of this ghetto. If it doesn't...I still had a great time, lived my life the way I wanted to, did it without fucking people over, and had experiences that you could only dream about. Remember... I WAS A MISFIT. There aren't many people who can say they were part of one of the greatest bands ever. A band that had a major effect on everything that's happening in music today. Fuck. I'm proud of that. The money issue is secondary, but what kind of person would I be if I didn't just try to get what I'm entitled to. Would you just sit back if your boss didn't pay you what he promised you, for the work you did. You'd be a wimp not to put up some kind of fight. Did you make the same criticism of Jerry when he was 'whining' about not getting paid by Glenn? > "They say I was doing all this stuff to fuck with them but look at me, > I'm so poor I can't afford a grain of rice, how could poor Bobby Steele > do anything wrong?" You must be talking about the THRASHER interview, where Glenn tried to lay the blame for that whole ELITE CLUB incident on me. My response was 'how could I, on about $240.00 a month social security, afford to hire a few thugs,and pay their airfare to SF, just to create a disturbance at their show?' I think I made a valid point. On April 10, 1982, THE UNDEAD were somewhere between NYC and Indianapolis the last thing I cared about was THE MISFITS. THE UNDEAD were on the verge of releasing a new record. I didn't even know what had happened. We played ON BROADWAY on April 15 & 16; and I didn't understand why all these kids were running up to the stage, pointing to their heads - and daring me to hit them. Until I just looked up the dates in my calendar, I never realized how close the two shows were We actually played the ELITE club on the 17th. Nobody ever said anything to us. We were supposed to do a show, with D.O.A. and a few other classic bay area bands on the 24th, but our van broke down and we got there too late to play, even though D.O.A. were gonna let us jump on and use their equipment, and that's where I met Tim, the kid who got hit. >Glenn Danzig is AFRAID of Bobby Steele! >Glenn Danzig HATES Bobby Steele because he is a CRIPPLE! >choke< >sob< Why won't he talk to me? He's got nothing to fear, does he? When did I ever say he hates me because I'm a cripple. I don't think he hates me. Especially from what people have told me about their conversations with him over the years. Steve Zing told me that Glenn respects the fact that I do what I believe in. I think you took my quote from his THRASHER interview the wrong way. I was just pointing out a comment he made, and the sub- conscious implications in that statement. If he hated me for being a cripple, he never would've let me in the band in the first place, right? >The Misfits doing a tour would make everybody tons of money... but only if >they brought back Glenn and BOBBY STEELE! I said, "what I'd like to do is get that line-up, the NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD line-up (w/ Joey Image) back for one LP and tour, and we could make a real killing". After all, this is the line-up that Glenn and Jerry have both said was 'when the band was at its best'. >Bobby Steele is a CRUSADER for IMPORTANT ISSUES, Yeah, like 'drink til ya drop.' You're taking me a little too seriously. Come hang out in New York for awhile, and we can share a six-pack of 'important issues'. I'm not MRR. >Bobby Steele is so broke he can't afford an E-Mail address -- see how the >SYSTEM is KEEPING HIM DOWN, and not letting him speak his true and factual >side of the story? Well, I am broke, but there isn't anything that can keep me down. Certainly not your verbal attacks! I fell between the cars of a moving subway train and came out of it without a scratch - and just under $15,000.00 that helped keep THE UNDEAD going for another two-years, and helped me to get some more recording gear. Does that sound like I'm being kept down? I got this free AOL thing, and I took advantage of the deal. How's that keeping me down? I always find a way. Read the email that came in from Daniel King. I always find a way, because there are decent people out there. Out of curiosity, what exactly do you do? It's a lot easier to talk with someone if you know a little bit about them. >Bobby Steele gave the Misfits "two years of loyal service"... and yet >somehow he owns a piece of the Misfits, they wouldn't be the Misfits >without him. Wrong!!! Get Franche Coma... he's a great guitarist, and originated the sound. No matter who's in the band - GLENN CREATED IT. It's not the MISFITS without Glenn...in my opinion. Glenn wrote the songs, Glenn created all those great record covers and posters (which most of you have never seen) It was Glenn's baby. You can't argue with that fact. >Jerry needs Bobby Steele, because KRYST THE CONQUEROR was a FAILURE while >the Undead were an unqualified success (unfortunately still leaving Bobby >Steele as broke and pitiable as Oliver Twist). Jerry doesn't need Bobby Steele. Where are you getting this idea from. I'm just pointing out that, If I'm the fuck-up that Jerry would have you believe I am, how was I able to do so much with so little money, while KRYST did so poorly -even with Jerry putting eons more money into it than I put into mine. He recorded at HOUSE OF MUSIC. That's a major studio. It's gotta be at least $150.00 an hour. He put a shitload of money into getting that out to radio stations, but he still wanted to call it THE MISFITS, or rather, If KRYST had done well, he would still be doing it. > Bobby, if you have legal problems with regard to getting paid >for work you did on prior Misfits albums, that issue is between yourself, >Jerry, and Caroline records. It is tactless of you to air those issues in >a public forum, and probably your doing so is enough cause for legal >action. It also tells me that you are unable to find appropriate redress >through legal channels because your claims are unfounded, and that is why >you choose to vent your dirty laundry in this fashion. Actually, I couldn't afford to get a lawyer. It's hard finding a lawyer to represent you in the entertainment business, since there are so few and there's enough other business that'll pay them up front. I have found a lawyer who wants to handle the case. He'll even put up the $18,000.00 filing fees, but the catch is that he'll only do it if I let him "go for the jugular". All I want is what's mine, nothing more. So I'm giving Jerry a chance to straighten this out. Kenny has promised to sit down and talk with me after they get back from Europe. There are only a few tracks that are inquestion as to who played what, because me and Doyle overlapped on the MSP session, and some of that stuff has part of me, and part of Doyle in the same song(or is that part of me, and part of Glenn). I trust Kenny. He never treated me bad when I was in the band. You made some good, valid points there, so I hope I settled your problem about BOBBY STEELE. This was much more te type of questions I was expecting when I stepped into this arena. I don't know if I changed your mind about anything, but give a listen to my music, and let it speak for itself. I'm sure you know someone who has some of my stuff out in SF, ask them to tape it for ya. Please, keep it to one question, so other people can get in on this too. > From: Jaime Obergfell > Subject: hey bobby Jaime, whew, I'm not good at writing tablature. Have you tried to figure any of it out yourself? It can't be too difficult. After all - I did it. Is there anybody else that wants to learn any songs? How about we take a poll of the guitarists out there, and I'll work out some kind of thing for the most requested song. Writing it all out sounds like a project in itself - and I'm trying to record new stuff while I'm doing this bbs session. Maybe Neil can help ya (ha ha). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 23:39:59 MST From: "Cadet Kyle J. Pumroy, x4748" Subject: concrete corner Hi everybody, haven't posted for long time and don't plan to. Since the bible's gotten so big, I don't get the whole thing, so I don't want to post since whatever I ask/say has probably already been said and I just don't know it. Anyway, I was wondering if anybody's brought up the new issue (?) of Concrete Corner? I've never got it, but I'm assuming it's a tape you get at record stores. Anyway, on the radio commercial they say the misfits is on it. If anybody has this can they post what's on it, and if this has already been done, could somebody just email me and tell me what's on it? Thanks kyle p ------------------------------ From: IANXRT@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:42:25 -0500 Subject: Sex Pistols reunion!!! WELL IT'S BEEN RUMOURED FOR YEARS AND NOW IT'S FOR SURE. THE SEX PISTOLS WILL BE TOURING EUROPE AND THE UNITED STATES THIS SUMMER FOR THE REUNION CONCERT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE FROM BEFORE IS THAT GLEN MATLOCK (THE PISTOLS FIRST ORIGINAL BASS PLAYER) WILL BE PLAYING INSTEAD OF SID FOR ODVIOUS REASONS (IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE REASON BY NOW THEN YOU DON'T BELONG THEIR, BUT I'M SURE THAT'S NOT ANY KIND OF RECENT NEWS TO ANYBODY SO THEIRS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT; BUT JUST FOR THE IGNORANT:SID IS DEAD). I CAN'T WAIT I LOVE THE PISTOLS. BUT WHATS THE CATCH; I WOULDN'T HAVE EVER THOUGHT THAT JOHNNY (ROTTEN) WOULD EVER AGREE TO IT. MTV WILL BE SHOWING AN INTERVIEW ABOUT WHY THE REUNION IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT WILL AIR VERY SOON, SO KEEP YOU'R 20 EYES PEELED. BUT WHO KNOWS JOHNNY SEEMES TO LIE A LOT AS WELL, SO MAYBE THE INTERVIEW WILL BE ALL BULLS*IT ANYWAY. BUT IN ANYCASE THE REUNION WILL HAPPEN THIS SUMMER AND I WILL BE THEIR. I WAS JUST THINKING WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO SEE THE MISFITS AND THE PISTOLS PLAY TOGETHER FOR SOME SHOWS. I KNOW IT'S VERY UNLIKELY, BUT I CAN DREAM CAN'T I. OH, BY THE WAY THE RAMONES AREN'T REALLY CALLING IT QUITS JUST YET, THEY WILL BE PLAYING LALAPOLUZA THIS SUMMER. SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE IN MY WILDEST, WILDEST DREAMS I THINK OF A SHOW WITH THE MISFITS, THE RAMONES, AND THE SEX PISTOLS. WOW, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT. AND I ASK YOU ONCE AGAIN I CAN DREAM CAN'T I. SINCE I WILL NEVER SEE ALL OF THESE BANDS ON THE SAME FLYER THEN I WILL HAVE TO GO TO EACH INDIVIDUAL SHOW, OH WELL I'LL STILL HAVE THE GREATEST SUMMER OF ALL WHEN ALL MY FAVORITE BANDS TOUR THE UNITED STATES. I HOPE THE PISTOLS DON'T ARGUE AND CALL IT QUITS BEFORE I GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM. I KNOW IT SOUNDS STUPID, BUT WATCH MTV FOR MORE INFO. ON THE PISTOLS; I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO GET ANY MORE INFO. IF ANY OF YOU DO PLEASE E- MAIL ME ASAP. I'M THROUGH FANTICIZING NOW. AND I KNOW I'M A BAD SPELLER, IAN : IANXRT@aol.com ( i'm going to eat you'r brain ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:11 CDT From: MARK LERRET Subject: #150 Just a few observations : 1) I'm glad Bobby Steele is contributing to the Bible. His comments and perspective are welcome, however this is not a forum for personal bashing of the other Misfits. I was hoping that we were over all that crap !! Save the personal attacks for the person. 2) What's the deal with ripping on the new Misfits lyrics? They were kind enough provide them to us in advance. Without music, I'm sure that a lot of songs would lose some of their appeal. I, for one, think the songs are cool. 3) The box set is awesome. The packaging is the best I've seen on a box set, and the contents of the disks (except for C I & II) are worth every penny! Even LOB has a purpose; it makes you appreciate the Static Age mixes even more !! 4) Best use for your old, obsolete Misfits CDs : find a friend and make him a Fiend !!! Mark L. ------------------------------ From: Bruce Lee Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:29:44 -5 Subject: The Box Set... Hey, I just got (well, actually, three days ago) the box set and I have to say it rules... I'm not gonna bore you with what is wrong with or how it should have been... the thing is beautiful... there isn't a single thing wrong with it in my eyes except for the fact that there won't be a second box set... ALL 104 tracks rule (Bobby Steele's Vampira and Violent World (hell, 20 Eyes, too) being leaders of the pack... I love Bobby's guitar work... ), the pin fits nicely on my jacket collar, and my roommate is afraid of the coffin box (he thinks I have a little woodland creature inside)... good work Caroline!!! I hope they decide to put this much effort into all the further Misfits releases (Caroline- please... NEVER give us another abomination like Collection II again!). Sincerely, Bruce Lee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:57:01 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Snook Subject: Misfit Albums FOR SALE The following is for sale: 3 Hits from Hell, Orange Jacket, Cream Label, Black Vinyl Halloween 7", Orange Jacket & Label, Black Vinyl, includes insert of lyrics, has tape on back corners (not removed), slightly torn in bottom corner. Evillive 7" 1st Band Photo, w/insert [perfect condidtion!], Yellow label, black vinyl, hand number 15 on spine of Crimson Ghost's book. Glenn Danzig 7" Who Killed Marilyn? White/Purple jacket, black vinyl. Please email serious offers to me. My friend is selling them (needs money, plus wants the box set) and I'll try to get bids to him. I think he may have a buyer for the Marilyn 7", but I'm not sure. All of the records are in good shape, and the EvilLive is in excellent shape. Any questions can be mailed too. Thanks. .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~snook `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:47:48 -0500 (EST) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Metala Maniacs hey fiends, Well i was in a local record store and Im passing the time reading some magazines. I saw this one called metal maniacs, and it has a picture of jerry and doyle in the bottem right corner. It has an article, the promo picture, a picture of doyle, the misfits w/ vampira, and a full page color shot of michael. Also it has picture of jerry and doyle shooting the pilots for the chiller series. It bassically talks about the comeback, and future plans. I could probably type it up for the page, sometime. Now I have a question. What is the signifigance of Reel Platinum studies. I know there is a session on the sessions disc, and samhain recorded there. It is in Lodi NJ, Im wondering is this glenns studio? It seems like Lodi is a small town and wouldnt have a recording studio? D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:23:06 -0600 (CST) From: Legion Subject: Misfits Silkscreens Fiends, wonder if you could help me out again: I wrote to Mark yesterday in question as to if any old Misfits silkscreens were around anymore. And of course, unfortunately they're not. So, I was wondering if any of you collectors out there had possession of a Misfits silkscreen, and if you did, would you be willing to share your representation of loyalty with yours truly? I just find myself so caught up in the Misfits 2nd coming that nothing is enough anymore! Yours fiendishly, Legion (we are many) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:35:17 -0500 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: real quick... Once again, for anyone who wanted the Hymns From Hell tape, just send $4.00 ppd in the USA to my address. Canada and Europe, etc. add a couple extra bucks for postage. It's a good source for a lot of the stuff that's now only available in the box set. To the kid who wanted to know how to get cool Misfits effects - Spend like $50.00 on DOD's Metal Maniac and you'll be a happy camper. Add a chorus (Ibanez is good) for those real creepy effects. Bye - Brent C. Eyestone 478 East Beaver Ave. Apt 211 State College PA 16801. ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: More Questions Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:14:48 -0500 (EST) First of all I want to ask the Crimson Ghost if he has mailed out the misfits picks to the donaters to jaime yet as promised? I just got back to school from spring break yesterday so I haven't got to give my 2 cents about the box set. Overall it was good, but the listing tend to be a little misleading. On the sicker on the coffin it said that the set included Collection 1, yet it did not include the entire album. The following tracks were nowhere to be seen: Bullet Earth A.D. Devilock Death Comes Ripping Green Hell Wolfsblood Then it said that the set included Collection 2, yet the following tracks were not included: We Are 138 Attitude Last Caress Return of the Fly Demonomania Hellhound Bloodfeast I think that we all agree that it was not necessary to even include either of these albums in the set but if they are going to do it they should at least include the whole album! Speaking of albums where the hell is the Walk Among Us album? What the fuck!!1 The sessions disc was great but I felt that they Had too many versions of the same song but then only one version of other songs. I desperately wanted to hear different versions or recording sessions of Die, Die, My Darling and Mommy, can I go out and kill tonight? There is only one version of these songs that I have ever heard and probably will ever hear. That sucks royal dick, wouldn't you all agree? Please, somebody give me some feedback on these opinions, I want to know if I am the only one that feels this way. Back me up or flame me, I don't care. Sincerely, ADAM SEVEN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:51:46 -0500 From: She Subject: Michale Fiends - Michale choses to spell his name Michale. It's NOT Michael. You are all spelling it incorrectly,. m ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:58:24 -0500 From: She Subject: Sorry Fiends A few of you sent me email to forward to Bobby, and unfortunately it was lost. If you'd like to send it to me again, please do. m a r k ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:17:42 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Holford Subject: Let's keep Bobby online! Hey Fiends, By now you probaly all saw who are latest bible member is. I think it's great the Bobby is here to give us his opinions and facts, plus he know has a chance to defend himself. Anyways, I was disappointed to see that he will only be with us for a short time. I was thinking, and I hope no one has mentioned this already, perhaps we could all through in a few buck to get him a permanent internet account. A few bucks should be worth it to all of you too have bobby here, and if you dont think its worth it, what the hell are you doing here? Anyways, its an idea. I think it would be better to get him a true internet account rather than AOL,but I dont know how PC literate he is. Let me know what you guys think. And Bobby, please in no way take offense to this, I just dont want you to get offended or anything. I wouldnt think of this as charity or a handout, cause i'm sure we all would love to hear from you in each issue. Does anyone know if Jerry/Doyle or even glenn has ever seen the bible? Also, if this plan is put into affect,it would be nice to know of some good internet service providers in the New York(is that right) area. Let me know what you guys think of this, and I hope 10 other people havent already suggested it. -Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:31:23 GMT Subject: Box Set From: sk8er IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! IT RULES!!!!!! -- sk8er sk8er@usa.pipeline.com sk8er@clearlight.com http://www.clearlight.com/~sk8er ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 22:47:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Holford Subject: MiSFiT's Box Set I have a question/complaint about the Box. What is the cover of the booklet? Personally I think it looks stupid, and a Crimson Ghost would have been more appropiate, but they didnt ask me..hehe Also, I think Eerie Von did a great job with the Linear notes. I dont understand what you people(the one's who hate it) dont like about it. However all the sidewayz writing is annoying. -Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:35:57 -0500 (EST) From: "William P. Musso" Subject: just a few random comments and questions I won't go on too long about the box. Just about everything's already been said by other fiends on the bible. Static Age rules--Definitely the best Misfits album ever. Much more powerful than the LOB versions. I've always liked WAU, but after hearing Static Age and the Sessions disc, it sounds a bit weak to me. It would be much better if the guitar and bass were turned way up. Does anyone agree? Am I the only one who likes the box version of Spook City USA? I read somewhere that Jerry and Doyle don't even like the song. The fast version of Where Eagles Dare (sessions #19 I think) is the best version of that song I've ever heard. I wonder why that was'nt released before. Bobby Steele makes some valid points, but he seems to contradict himself a lot. He thinks Jerry is a money grubber and yet he admits to wanting to get the band together for a final money making retirement tour ala the Who. On his first posting, he pretty much expresses disdain for the current Misfits and everything they are doing. On his second posting he claims that he wants to be friends with them. There is obviously more to this story than any of the Misfits past or present are saying. I'd like to see Jerry and Doyle address these issues also. I also think ten bucks is pretty steep for a 7" and a poster. Is there a good reason for this being so expensive? If the Misfits are going to be truly DIY, where does Caroline fit into all of this? Last I heard, they were owned by Virgin. Hardly seems DIY to me. Is Caroline going to be putting out the new stuff? Misfits ads in Spin????????? Say it isn't so. Hold on, I think I have to puke. To Keith Gwar Noss: the "re" in Delambre is silent. It's pronounced Hellain Delawm. Check out the movie "the Fly" (original version) I,ve rambled on long enough. ------Psycho Billy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:50:35 -0600 From: Nicholas Havens Subject: Help Me Please Someone banned me from the #misfits irc on undernet. I'm really a good guy. Please someone try to get me unbanned. Oh and If you don't have it get the boxed set, it rocks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 01:42:57 -0500 From: She Subject: The Manimals Hey Fiends - do any of you remember The Manimals? They opened for the Misfits on 1/9/83 at Club Stain, and later for Samhain at the Pop Shop on 9/14/84. They were a very image oriented band and their lead singer, Larry The Wolf, looked especially similar to Doyle. Anyone who hasn't checked out their EP Blood Is The Harvest, might want to look into it. Jerry and Larry The Wolf have been friends for years and Jerry has expressed interest in covering a Manimals tune, or maybe writing some music with Larry. I'll soon have more information on how to purchase the EP, so keep your eyes open. Mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 152 Thursday, March 14th 1996 Today's Topics: Arizona, Bobby, sXe Re: this hello and reply Re: Misfits Bible, #151 Even Kentuckians Do That Misfits Thang! question no car, no show RE: Misfits Bible, #151 Static Age case hey mister, you didn't pay for your rice cakes Membership packages D.O.A Detroit Shows (The Harpo's Story) comments Bobby Steele Bobby Steele II Bobby Steele III stuff galore & more Hey CG Dave vanian singing with the Misfits??????? Misfits in Edinburgh (Mar.12 1996) Misifits of ska The Bible... & Bobby Bruce's new addy... aarrgh ... fiend club Lancaster, Philly, and DC shows. Providence show London Dungeon Re: day off Bobby, etc French Lesson 1st gig of Euro-tour! Misfits/DOA shows Stuff !!!!!!!!Asshole Stop it now Picks?????? the 'fits in philly Devil's Plaything... 3 Hits From Hell & Black Light I got something to ask.. Re: Bobby Steele stuff Re: The next set ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:34:07 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Alan Smaldone <65063@ef.gc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Arizona, Bobby, sXe You lucky wieners! It's got to be nice being on the east coast being able to see the Misfits shows! Anyway, I'm stuck here in Phoenix. Does anyone know if they're planning on coming out west any time soon? Shit, I'd even drive a few hundred miles to see them. Oh, and to the buttnuggets giving Bobby Steele a hard time: BOBBY STEELE WAS IN THE MISFITS. YOU WEREN'T. Seeing as how this is a -MISFITS- mailing list, maybe you should be a little more respectful. One more thing: What are the rules for being straightedge? I mean, let's say there's someone who goes all their life and never does any drugs or anything. Is he straightedge? Or someone who had a few beers last night, and decides they don't like beer anymore, how about them? As far as I'm concerned, a drug is anything that you become addicted to. So then what happens if you become addicted to giving people shit for not being straightedge? ,---------------. _ _ | Put yo' \ |\__/| .~ ~. | weight on | /o=o'`./ .' Rich Smaldone \ it! /\_ {o__, \ { 65063@ef.gc.maricopa.edu `-------------' / . . ) \ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- `-` '-' \ } Dolemite is alright! .( _( )_ .' '---.~_ __| ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: this Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:24:36 -0500 (EST) > From: adam bodnar > > Does anyone know if Jerry Only knows about the movie and if so, don't you > think that the Misfits should have that song on the soundtrack. Both the > Misfits and Tim Burton have that horror-style motif. Actually, I think Jerry knew about this before he wrote the song. He sent a box set and a copy of the lyrics to Tim already. > From: Ken Graf > not 100% correct. For the most part, they seem to be correct, but yes, some > seem to be off. Such as in Angefuck, I always thought it was "Dry your thigh I've been meaning to mention this. The most accurate lyrics on the whole box set are the ones on the STATIC AGE album. Those were the ones Jerry remembered best. So I have a feeling they're okay. > From ?? > Ok, SO I'm a big MetallicA fan, in fact they are my favorite > band. But putting that and my love for punk aside....Doesnt it seem just > a LITTLE odd that the Misfits Box set is as much as the MetallicA one? > The Misfits box Set has 4 CDs, a pin, and a book, in a very cool coffin > box. Metallica is a 10million album selling band with a major major label behind them and four very agreeable band members who work well together. See any differences? > From: Paul Hahn > was so geeked to see detroit on the mini-tour, and then i saw where at > and called jerry all sorts of names. all of which he deserves. about BULLSHIT. Hey Paul, you know I went ahead and faxed Jerry your message and you saw the quick reaction and the note he faxed back. He doesn't deserve to be called names for something he has no knowledge about and you know that. > i've noticed on earlier relaeses the name of the bands was simply > 'misfits', but on collection II and the box set it's 'the misfits.' does > this signify a change? or is it just packaging? oh yeah i agree w/ cg Sounds like packaging. On the first handful of 7" singles, the band was listed as The Misfits. I personally like the old logo and "The Misfits" better. > From: Jerryonly3@aol.com > is the box limmited or anything or can you get it at any store? Also does > anyone know when The Misfits are going to play in Boston Mass.? Get it anywhere. Special order it if you need to. > From: Teevie > I just noticed today the box lyrics for Spook City are wrong too... was > this Jerry's interpretation, or some Caroline flunkie working the > graveyard shift with eight cups of coffee? The lyrics were worked out and decided on BEFORE the tapes were acquired by Caroline. > From: Ed Dycus > For some reason, I was led to believe that the box set was going to have > the original version of Earth A.D. I'm dissapointed it turned out not to > be on there. Does anyone one know if there's any hope of this being > released? After the hearing the difference between Static Age and Legacy > of Dubbing, I'm really dying to hear the REAl version... Fiends, the version of Earth AD that we all know and love is the REAL version. Jerry just doesn't like SPOT's production on that album and thinks it should be mixed differently - that's why he makes those comments about the album. Trust me, even if Jerry remixed it, he wouldn't change it that much. The demos for the album don't sound very different. > From: "AngelfucK" > And I heard someone say earlier that there is only a live version > of Horror Hotel on the box set? Is this true? If so, what is the > version on Collection II like? If anyone could let me know the The person who made that post foolishly neglected to proofread their post. Big mistake. The version on Collectoin II and the box set is the 3 HITS FROM HELL version, the only version they ever recorded. > Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 22:47:13 -0500 > Subject: Help. > > Can anyone help me identify a tape I have? It's a studio session that doesn't > seem to be on the sessions disk of the box set. Let me describe it. About12 Ahh, sounds like it might be the lost Fair Lawn tape. > From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu > cd 2 why legacy? if it is their best-selling album (so jerry > has said) why include it? if it sells so well then i would > assume most fans have it and put something else on there. The idea behind the box set was to include everything... You can't leave off LOB and call it everything. > OK here's my obligatory question: back in 1989 i remember > reading an add in a magazine (maybe rip) for the misfits fan > club. I guess now it was probably the doyle fan club. I sent > for the package they offered (i don't remember if it cost me > anything) and I can not remember everything i got! I do know > Anyway, what I'm wondering is, does anyone know if this was > the doyle club, or maybe the kryst club i was getting stuff > from? Maybe does anyone have any idea what exactly was in that > package? Maybe someone on here got it too. Anyway, I guess i had That was the Doyle Fan Club. The Doyle Fan Club existed to keep in touch with the old Misfits fans and distribute Kryst The Conqueror merchandise - so basically you were on both lists since they were one and the same. There was no real membership package. From time to time Jerry mailed out Doyle posters, catalogs, guitar picks, membership cards and letters. There was a special Xmas package in '89 that included 10 bumper stickers, a KTC flashlight, and a copy of the KTC album on CD and cassette. All this information is on the web page of course. > Oh yeah, Mark, keep that guy's proposal of selling the > Black Light 7" yourself in mind. I plan on seeing them in It's definitely a good idea that I will suggest to the band. > From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) > Now I have a question. What is the signifigance of Reel Platinum > studies. I know there is a session on the sessions disc, and samhain > recorded there. It is in Lodi NJ, Im wondering is this glenns studio? It > seems like Lodi is a small town and wouldnt have a recording studio? There are several studios in Lodi. Most Lodi bands use Reel Platinum at one time or another. It is not Glenn's studio. I think Bob Alleca owns it. > From: Adam Christensen > Subject: More Questions > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:14:48 -0500 (EST) > > to be a little misleading. On the sicker on the coffin it said that the set > included Collection 1, yet it did not include the entire album. The followin > tracks were nowhere to be seen: Bullet > Earth A.D. > Devilock > Death Comes Ripping > Green Hell > Wolfsblood > Then it said that the set included Collection 2, yet the following tracks > were not included: > We Are 138 > Attitude > Last Caress > Return of the Fly > Demonomania > Hellhound > Bloodfeast ??? Did you look at CD#2 or CD#4? Now can you find these "missing" tracks? > The sessions disc was great but I felt that they Had too many versions of the > same song but then only one version of other songs. I desperately > wanted to hear different versions or recording sessions of Die, Die, My Darli > and Mommy, can I go out and kill tonight? There is only one version of thes > songs that I have ever heard and probably will ever hear. That sucks royal > dick, wouldn't you all agree? There is only one version of Mommy to hear. It was only recorded ONCE. There may be a second version of Die Die My Darling, but if Caroline Records does not have the master tape, they can't do anything else. Warner Brothers currently owns the master tape to the Walk Among Us album. > From Jholford > Does anyone know if Jerry/Doyle or even glenn has ever seen the > bible? Jerry has seen printouts of the bible. Glenn has seen the web page, as I posted a few issues ago. > From ?? > I also think ten bucks is pretty steep for a 7" and a poster. Is there a > good reason for this being so expensive? Yes, as I stated in an early issue, the money from this single will be used to pay for the production, studio time, recording, and distribution of the next Misfits album. > > If the Misfits are going to be truly DIY, where does Caroline fit into > all of this? Last I heard, they were owned by Virgin. Hardly seems DIY > to me. Is Caroline going to be putting out the new stuff? Misfits ads > in Spin????????? Say it isn't so. Hold on, I think I have to puke. Caroline puts out old Misfits stuff only. New Misfits stuff will be put out by The Misfits. yeah. that's all for now. read some back issues fiends. mark ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:21:46 +1100 Subject: hello and reply Hello All Warhammer here I am new to the bible but i assure Iam a true fiend and have been for quite some time. I am 18 yrs old and I just love the bible. I must admit that I have not been a fan as long as the rest of you probably have but I love the Misfits as well as Danzig and Samhain. i have been reading all your postings and have to say that I was in disagreement with the individual who said that Glen was a terrible singer. He is, and has been for about 6 years now, my favorite singer. I love all of his bands equally and I really think that regardless of his personality that the man has true talent in fact i am a little skeptical about this new Misfits singer I am assuming that he fits the sound of the band but I don't know if I am ready to accept the misfits w/o Glen however i intend to buy anything the band puts out just because it is the misfits. On another note i think it is great to have Bobby here with us even if it is just for a short time it gives us a very good chance to hear what he has to say. The point that Bobby made that I totally agree with is the fact that the Misfits was Glen's baby if you will and despite what he may or may not have done he deserves the recognition for if it were not for him all this would not be here there would be no fiends and that would just suck. Also I have to add to the hype of the box set. I personally caould not afford a copy just yey but a good friend of mine was nice enough to let me copy the discs and I will say that it has to be the best damn box set in existance. It blows the pants off the Metallica box set a set which although there are three different dics all the sets contain the same fukin material. But I digress this is the misfits journal and I only wish to discuss misfits anyway. I think the set is just the greatest. I will say that I had heard pretty much all the material on the damn thing thru bootlegs and actual releases but the set just fukin rocks I mean the sound quality is obviously far superior to my bootlegs. Well I could go on forever, but I don't wanna waste bible space I've already done enough of that So long fellow fiends I will return The Warhammer "I put an axe in my baby's head I'm gonna end up doing time She looked so good in RED American nightmare running scared ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:21:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Regan Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #151 Anyone know what court and when the lawsuit b/tJerry and Glenn was filed? I am a law student and can pull up trial transcripts via Lexis-Nexis an legal database....please respond to me and not via this digest cause I'll never find it.... P.S. any one ever hear Evan Dando sing an acoustic version of "Skulls" I heard it the other night...if it was done tounge in cheek its cool, but if he was serious, what a loser! "Death, In its Arms!" Jim "DEAD WHITE TRASH" Regan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 05:14:36 -0600 (CST) From: Lee Bruner Subject: Even Kentuckians Do That Misfits Thang! Hey all My friend and I have been reading the Bible for about 3-4 issues now. We really like it, keep up the good work. Did anyone have to return his/her box set due to black shit being on the back of one of the discs???? xxiippyy ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: question Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:31:03 -0500 (EST) hi, i know you are all sick of box set related q's, but i was curious if any of u knew how to get in touch with cdnow, who someone said had a good price on the set. if u know their # or something, please email me at: obrien81@matrix.newpatz.edu. i am hoping to go to some of those northeast misfits shows in april, so if any of u from the new york area wanna split a ride, get in touch, cause it seems as though they will not be coming close to NY, so i am thinking of hitting the road to get to the NJ/boston shows or something. take care everyone & talk soon! some signatures are really silly and huge. - e ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:57:47 -0600 From: Jolanta C Biniek Subject: no car, no show hey there, anybody passing through Chicago on their way to a Misfits show? i'd love to get to one of them, but i'm car-less and none of my friends on wheels like the Misfits enough to go. Anybody willing to take me along for gas, hotel $$, whatever??? i'd love to work something out w/ a bible member[s]. thanks! -jolanta c. biniek jbiniek@shrike.depaul.edu ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:56:20 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #151 Has anyone out here heard anything by "chyna" yet-- also have any of you heard the "times square" demo yet? if so please tell me what you think of them... also in Bible 151-someone posted about the Misfits of Ska cd,and the band The Independants-well I saw the independents a few months ago, and there were many misfits related sightings... 1)the singer sounds like Glenn Danzig 2)on the back of the singers jacket is a picture of a skull w/ a devilock 3)the band did a ska version of "Mother" also my band is thinking of covering Samhain's "Misery Tomb", but we are having a hard time figuring out all of the lyrics, and we cant figure out the guitar parts or the bass parts, oh yeah, we are especially having a lot of trouble figuring out the accordion part-but my grandfather is gonna help me with it. Bobby-would you mind if my band covered "Put Your Clothes Back On"? we are considering it.....BTW its great to be able to contact you on a regular basis, please keep your account!!!! straight edge XXX straight edge XXX straight edge XXX straight edge XXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX If I could, I would kill every non-straight edge person in the whole wide big large world....that was a joke..... Any fiends here going to the shows in RI or CT, e-mail me, and we'll meet up!!! later love goatboy- ptyc ------------------------------ From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:25:33 GMT Subject: Static Age case So many people seem to be having trouble getting into the Static Age case in the box set. Well, as soon as I picked my copy up it fell open! Still, I paid more for the fucking thing (equivalent to $90!). ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:49:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: hey mister, you didn't pay for your rice cakes Man o man, I am still so psyched over the box set.....I've listened to Earth ad almost nonstop. You gotta understand, that was the first fits album I ever heard....first time I heard it I was like "what the fuck is this?" but then in grew on me. and i think we all agree that earth ad is just about the most unlistenable (please, I mean that in a GOOD way) of all the Misfits albums. So basically that album's always been pretty important to me. Ok so here's the shit: all I've got is the tape..I'd like a copy of it on vinyl or cd so I can better appreciate the cover (my only complaint of the box set is no reproduction of the cover.....even considering how eerie von praised it in his liner notes!)... so I know the cd is hard to come by but if anyone has a copy of it or the vinyl or knows a friend who has it or knows a nearby store that has either of them, I would appreciate it very much if you'd e-mail me & let me know....also the price, too. One last thing: and this is in defense of 2 (i think) of the best players in the band: I've read in several articles or posts how a lot of people consider Doyle the least skilled guitarist ever to play in the band. I think that's bullshit. Sometimes I'll hook up my guitar and try to play along to Evilive, and that motherfucker is on fire!!!! He's playing incredibly fast, and you can only hear him loose his pace maybe once or twice if you really listen for it. Sure he (at the time) couldn't (or wouldn't) play hook licks like bobby or franche but keep in mind he was what, 16? I really don't know how is playing is these days, tho, so I'm looking forward to checking it out in concert. 2: Robo! How can you not respect robo? Of all the drummers for the fits I think he had the most to offer. Sure, Mr. Jim had the cymbal, rockabilly-like thing going, and both Googy and (from the little I've heard of him) Joey image were really good, but Robo was the shit. Now that i can actaully hear earth ad (god i hate cassetes) i'm amazed at how fast that guy is playing. And keep in mind he was doing the new stuff; he'd probably destroy all the older stuff cause he'd be able to slow it down. If he could sound so could that fast I bet he'd have no problem with the static or walk songs. Anyway I just wanted to ramble. Everybody on here always talks about the old 'fits songs, like they're the best ones. Bullshit. Respect is due to the last Misfits line-up (i'm not considering brian damage). I'm gonna go play green hell again. Later toughguys, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:59:53 -0600 (CST) From: Legion Subject: Membership packages Hello, fiends. As mentioned in the last Bible issue, Mark suggested that fiends be generous and share their membership packages with fiends who did not make the cutoff date. And since there is 2 of the stickers and cards, and 11 flyers, would anybody be interested in sharing? I will pay $$ if fiends are THAT stubborn, but just remember that we ALL want to be loyal members of the fiend club! Yours fiendishly, Legion (we are many) ------------------------------ From: CPERSL@acd.mhc.ab.ca Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:06:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: D.O.A i read on the last issue that D.O.A will be with the misfits at all of the dates. being canadian ihave seen D.OA numerous times in calgary and in my home town 2 hours south. that being the case will these two mature rocking bands be swinging north? i know calgary is known fot the stampede and it does have its share of billy ray cyrus faggots but ther is also a large local punk scene, when the beastie boys came ticketmster sold 4000 tickets at $30 in just under 2 hours. there is a great horror influenced band that remind me of the misfits. they are called the forrbidden dimention and they paint up their faces and they have a slide show going during their sets whick show pics of horror movies etc. the frontman i guess writes all the songs, and does the typography and illustrations ala glenn. i saw one of their shows expecting to see a misfit clone band but instead af a punk hard sound it is more surf punk. they have 2 albums on cargo records. anyway some one should make a suggestion to expand the tour into western canada, calgary, edmonton, kelowna of course vancouver, but that is a 12 hour drive through the deadly rocky mountains ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:24:42 -0500 From: Green Jesus Subject: Detroit Shows (The Harpo's Story) It's a good thing The 'Fits are not going to Harpo's, I used to work there- And here is my story... First of all, The owners are a bunch of assholes who don't give a shit about their customers (just their money). All of their beer on tap is the cheapest shit you can buy (Milwaukee's best light or something like that) and their alcohol is all cheap shit put in the good bottles, for example Jack Daniels is really Evan Williams cheap bourbon. There are always a bunch of bums hanging around hassling the customers, I've seen them rob people who get kicked out by the bouncers and thrown in the alley. Another enlightening bit of information I'd like to share with you, Those cheap pitchers of beer you people always buy, were more than likely picked out of the toilet, puked in, shit