Misfits Bible, Number 161 Friday, April 5th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #160 my first post. bunk bootlegs bible shirts Fiends in zanesville? Misfits Bible, #160 -Reply Re: Contradictions From Mars and Glenn Don't Care! Sighting Return of the Fly 7in Danzig's New Album stuff Misfits CDs t-shirts Bible T-Shirts RE: Misfits Bible, #160 stuff and stuff bloody mess hi, Happy Easter!! Bible 159 #155...LATE Re: Misfits Bible, #160 Re: Misfits Bible, #160 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:33:18 -0500 From: Zoltar Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #160 I'll answer some quick questions - Chris wanted to know who played drums on the session disc. As listed on the page, the stuff from '79 was played by Joey Image, the '77 stuff had Manny, and everything else on the sessions disc is Googy. Howl wanted to know about a Danzig boot called "Life Without a Net" - I've never heard of it - if you have info, send it to me. Thanks mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:20:05 -0500 (EST) From: David Jacobs Subject: my first post. ive been reading this for a while, and I really wanted to contribute to issue #138 so I figured I would try and get this in (it's not to late, is it Mark?) just some points: I'll be at the Cleveland show also, hopefully, we should have a pre-show dinner or something. Maybe Cleveland fiends could drive at to Oberlin and we could go out for Chinese food. Also, I think it's silly to talk about the Misfits personal lives. It shows this kind of weird obsessive loyalty to even think that we have the obligation or right to wonder who owes who money or who ripped who off on that record. not that it's not important, but for us to make judgements is kind of weird. I think we should talk about the Static Age album more because its so obviously the best Misfits thing ever. ok bye. ____________________________________________________________________________ *ABOLISH THE RACIST DEATH PENALTY* ++++ stop de execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++ ++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++ ------------------------------ From: CPERSL@acd.mhc.ab.ca Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 11:55:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: bunk bootlegs last summer i bought DANZIG live'93, a big picture of glenn, shirt off,belt buckle shining, it said to contain last carress, london dungeon as well as she riders, twist of chain, and some other fucked up names of songs. anyway there was also a picture of the ink blot from IV on the back witch is interesting because that album never came out until thhe end of 94. also there was one john christ instrumental and on an unreleased song witch was pretty slow,glenn yells horror business and they go into the song, witch was cool because it wasn't listed but the next song was supposed to be last carress, however they repeat london dungeon, witch was already played 3 songs before. also there were two versions of mother , what kind of shit is this?? it is a little game the bootleg guys play. the disk had glenn's face on it with the hole taking the place of one of his eyes also i t had a MADE IN GERMANY sticker on it. i also bought a live beastie boys disk w/ the same sticker and it has two songs that repeat and to top it off they have a little trick of extending some of the songs, repeating in the middle of the track to make the song 5 min instead of 2. speaking of the b boys iheard back in the day they might of played with the misfits at some new york gigs, any truth to that??? after these two bootlegs disasters i warn everyone, bootlegs lick balls. as for the t shirts, i am a graphic design student so this is my bread and butter. for years i have looked for a black shirt with no type, just the crimson ghost skull, so i like that for the front and i like long sleeves with maybe 3- 5 little skulls on each sleeve. as for the back i envision a book looking muck like the necronomicon from evil dead2 but maybe with a crimson ghostish looking face on it and the words misfits bilble underneath the book in the classic horror typeface. just remember, the more skulls the better. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:50:47 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: bible shirts I hate long sleeves... even in winter i wear short sleeve T-shirts under my coat. If these things get made & you're lookin' for me at a show, look for the guy with the cut-off armholes. Like anyone cares. heh. Hey, anyone got any ideas why an un-reverbed "Spinal Remains" wasn't on the Static Age disc, as well as the guitar She...tracks from the same session, right?? One of my few bones to pick about the box. I guess if that track wasn't in the concept for the first LP, it still woulda been nice to see on the sessions disc. Teevie >;0/ ------------------------------ From: GothikEye@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:27:34 -0500 Subject: Fiends in zanesville? I know this is really pointless, but is there any Fiends around Zanesville? I seem to be one of the only fans around here. E-mail me at Gothik Eye@aol.com if you are around here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 15:28:10 -0400 From: Marc V Colasanto Subject: Misfits Bible, #160 -Reply Any Fiends out in Jersey? When are The Misfits playing on the Jersey Shore? ------------------------------ From: Jaymz666@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:19:40 -0500 Subject: Re: Contradictions From Mars and Glenn Don't Care! >>Then there's Glenn. If you watched him on The Headbangers Ball a couple of >>years back, he practically strangled Rikki Rachman (SP?) when he brought up >>the topic of the Misfits to Glenn. That was a part of his past which he >>didn't want to discuss. But then I listen to him playing Misfits songs in >>the summer of 1994 with Metallica. What gives? I believe Glenn doesn't want to talk about the Misfits anymore is because they should have been covered when they were a band, not 15 years later. Glenn did Misfits songs with Samhain and in the early stages of Danzig. That gives him the right to do it with Metallica, he wrote the songs, he can perform them wherever and with whoever he pleases. >>Then I hear about his"involvement" in the Collection II and the box set. I >>was thinking he's put some effort into making the goods the best quality he >>could. What a joke. The Mephisto Waltz from SAMHAIN on a MISFITS album? >> Wrong lyrics to some of the songs? Well, considering Glenn wanted nothing to do with the box. . .Jerry was the one who did the lyrics, so complain to him, not Glenn. You can bitch to Glenn about not helping though, it would've been quite nice to have seen him help a little. They included everything the Misfits (with the exception of many sessions) ever did. So, even though M.W. was recorded during Samhain years, it does deserve to be in there. The same with Glenn's re-recordings of the couple WAU songs. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:48:34 -0500 From: "N. Burke" Subject: Sighting I just wanted to report a Misfits sighting, dunno if anyone has posted this yet or not, but here goes... in like the first 10 minutes of the movie "Strange Days" the camera pans over this violent scene on the street and in the background this guy walks by wearing a white Crimson Ghost on a black tee. Anyways, I'd also like to thank Crimson Ghost for sending out the picks, and to those who bitched him out... give the guy a break, most people wouldnt even think of spending the time to do that for us. So think before you insult someone like him. -Greenhell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:38:03 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: Return of the Fly 7in Someone had mentioned a RotF 7in they picked up in California last issue. I think this was made in either europe or more specifically the UK. A friend of mine picked one up around 1991 in London. And I'm pretty sure I remember one of those Made in the UK stickers on it. Neat little 7in. Anyone have one of the Return of the Fly 4 song 7inches? The ones with a black on white cover and that's mastered the wrong speed? And pressed on old vinyl? Well it was my first chance to hear that song. take care jon ------------------------------ From: shifter Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:28:28 -0800 Subject: Danzig's New Album Hey all, first of all I would like to thank Bobby Steele for going on IRC! I learned some cool stuff from him and mainly it was cool talking to an ex 'fit! Does anybody out there know when the new Danzig album is coming out? I thought it was supposed to be coming out last month or something. Last thing I want to say is THANKS a whole hell of a lot to Mark Kennedy for putting ALL of this stuff together and keeping us fiends informed. Shifter ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:39:46 -0500 Subject: stuff Fiends, All right, let's see. First off, hat's off to Jon for the parody of the whole sXe thing. Fiends, if you are straightedge (like myself), there's no need for this whole long "I'm straightedge, if you're not straightedge, fuck you".....I forget who always does that, but it's a bit inappropriate. As far as the Psychomania review....yeah the tracks are a bit comical, but the sound quality is pretty good for those shows (9:30 Club and Wilson Center) Has anyone seen these Legacy of Brutality long sleeve shirts? I have a few catalogs that you can order them from....is this Glenn's work, or a bootleg? I wouldn't figure the Jerry and Doyle would do a LOB shirt. For the guy mentioning bootlegs and their value...technically they're not worth jack (as you mentioned), but I know my limit for a boot 7" is about $15.....that is I won't pay more than that. Now, most people refuse to pay more than fifty cents, and others will pay ridiculous prices ($45, etc). It depends who you talk to. Jolanta.....a Cubs fan? Right city, wrong team :) On the topic of record prices....a lot you can get them really cheap.....I have seen, that is was in the same room with an original piece of Misfits vinyl.....Evilive from the Fiend Club.....$150. I guess if I lived on the east coast, I could get damn good prices, but most of the Fiends around here who have originals paid loads and loads for them. Oh well, Chris ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.aonline.com Date: 3 Apr 1996 15:29:06 EDT Subject: Misfits CDs I was at Fred Meyer's the other day gettin my X-Files CD. Anyways, I was looking in Misc. M and I found Compilation I and Compilation II. Why the hell Does Fred Meyer's have MISFITS CDs? Marilyn Manson's Smells Like Children was also there. ------------------------------ From: cbmed@cdx.net Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:43:32 -0500 Me think you guys are being silly! Me didn't believe others would buy the Misfits story, but me also open Static Age in 2 seconds right away when others took minutes. Me not going to wait for all bitching and whining about shirt. Me make own shirt. Me be nice and tell you how. Me take Evilive insert, with CG reading Plan 9, me change name of book to Misfits Bible (whoa good idea). Me put that on back and Misfits logo on left breast! Me also buy Misfits ticket. cost me $14.38! Take out 4 and what you got? THey did it on purpose. Some people need life, will give you one! Me thinks people will actually think me talk like this. Me see you in hell! Any you want shirt me charging arm and leg. (literally) You email me and we talk business! Me already got Mark Krystmas present. He deserve it! Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Mad Cow! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 23:16:29 From: Bobby Steele >From: Jon >Hey bobby, > I have this white Undead shirt with a picture of you(i gues) on >the cover with a freaky haricut holding your guitar. I was just wondering >if this was actually put out by you or if somebody made it up themselves. >thankz man.... > That was a licensed shirt that was made during the summer 1990 tour. The printer was supposed to send me a proof, for my approval, but when I got a case of them instead, I told them to stop making them. I hate what they did with the design. They completely fucked up the logo. > Also, I noticed you were on IRC, you plan to be on it often? I >would love to run into you there.... Ya should been there. It got pretty sick as the night wore on. My fingers still hurt from all that typing. I'll be on there occaisionally. I'll post it in advance if I know ahead of time, but I might just drop in. > >From: Geoffrey King >Hey Bobby Steele, >someone told me that times square was playing buffalo, ny around may 18th > or so. is this true? > >thanks. It's in the works right now. We've just got to work out the travel shit. We only have a small car right now, so we need to borrow drums and speakers when we get there. Once it's all settled, I'll post it. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 23:54:20 -0500 Subject: t-shirts i agree, since the misfits were like 50's horror the misfits bible shirts should have that same sorta' feel. but, we are a computer mailing list so we should try to kinda' mix the two. maybe even use a picture of the crimson ghost at one of those old, enormous computers that took up a whole room. i'm not much on longsleeves either i think they should be short sleeved like most of the misfits t-shirts i've seen. were there ever even any originaly long sleeved misfits shirts? my other suggestion would be this: an exact (or pretty close) replica of the white fiend club design (like the box set pin design) with "misfits bible" replacing "misfits fiend club". and on the back either nothing or "misfits bible" in the famous monsters lettering. by the way, am i the only one who likes the spray paint logo too? D.EVIL "...stand idly by as they rape your children..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:11:54 -0600 (CST) From: RaTTFiNK Subject: Bible T-Shirts Well, i dunno if anyone already planned anywhere to print these shirts, if not, My Brother-n-law owns a screen printing business, and i am SURE he'd love to do them, he deals in mass quantity, so this job would be problem at all.... i would have a hand in the printing, layout etc... (going by the general concensus of what the shirts should look like.... ) i did like the idea someone had of having the CG by the `puter, and i would sure as hell be showing off the shirt as much as possible!...hehe.... well, people, whoever is the main "Planner" behind this, leave me mail, i can get a price quote (probably a discount also) whit longsleeve is a good idea, and going from experience, 2 to 3 color is probably as high as we should go.... they do get expensive.... Also, i am selling T-shirts, (By brother-n-law got scammed from a dude in NY) but i have a bunch left, so if anyone wants to check them out, the link is on my Homepage... (Him selling those shirts will give us a good image, thus making the Bible T's alot more likely to be cheaper) hehe i dunno if that was worded correctly, but i am tired. Thanks for listening to my rambling, watch after writing this long letter, i get a carrier drop.... heh... my luck.... RaTTFiNK #misfits op -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I got something to say, i killed your baby today, And it doesn't matter much to me, as long as it's Dead. Sweet Lovely Death, I am Waiting for you Breath Come Sweet Death, One Last Caress. THe MiSFiTS '`'`'`'`'`' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- lestat@netnet.net Visit My homepage at: http://netnet.net/~lestat/index.html -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 12:48:48 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #160 If anyone was watching the Geraldo show on Wednesday, they had teen Satanists on...and before they went to each commercial break, they played some sort of punk/metal song, and two of the times that they went to breaks, they played a song that "sounded" like "Skulls" but was not skulls, it was just the "skulls" riff, just strummed differently...was this a "skulls" cover song, and if so, does anyone by who? RE:Bobby Steele and Sloppy Seconds-as far as I know, he played guitar on their "Where Eagles Dare" 7", that is all that I know of.. RE:Bile666-I too saw 120 minutes, and awaited a misfits referance, but no...hey its their loss.. JULIAN BALDRY-IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, OR IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE, PLEASE E-MAIL ME!!!!!! does anyone on this bible listen to either "SNUFF" OF "GUNS N' WANKERS", if so, please e-mail me....thanxxx oh yeah-anyone on here listen to The Parasites, if anyone has ANYTHING by the band the Parasites, please e-mail me, cause I'll either buy it or trade it from you, or I'll need you to make a copy of it for me. later love goat- xxx-------------------------straight edge------------------------------xxx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:59:29 -0500 (EST) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: stuff and stuff hey- When I read last week that some guy was gonna pay $75 for the earth ad gold disc, I nearly wet myself. I think everybody thinks this is really hard to find, but I got mine for $9.99 in the used cd section of a local record store, and I've heard similar stories from other people. I realize it's limited edition or whatever, but there seem to be a lot in circulation - food for thought. Hey near widow - your post was frigging hysterical. It was right out of William Burroughs or something. I don't even care if the story's true or not, it was great! I've already heard from two people going to the Troc on the second; there must be more of you... Man is something which must be overcome aon-1 ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: bloody mess Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:43:29 -0500 (EST) Grimson Ghost----Well I really have to hand it to you, you are a true gentelman. I am really suprised that you sent me my pick after all this fiasco. There wasn't even any dog shit or anything in the envelope. Thank you very much, you are a man of your word. On another note why are only glenn jerry and doyle pictured on the domestic version of Evilive? What the fuck happened to Robo? Somebody tell me! There seems to be alot of talk here about only the misfits and danzig. Doesn't anyone listen to Samhain anymore. I think that they are one of glenn's best projects. Talk to me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 12:43:53 -0800 From: NaTe Subject: hi, ghouls and ghoulettes i am tv casulty other wise known as ramone or as ppl call me in the non-irc world, nate. hi. i am new here/ i just got into the misfits about 1 year ago i am 14 and always mad at something/well anyway. i am wondering if anyyone is not to cool to talk to me. and if anyone is from pittsbrgh? well before i go i just wanted to say that for the teeshirts: long sleeve, a bible on the back with the misfits skull like etched in the cover, and on the front nothing but on the left top area put the misfits in those cool letters. well i am outta here. everyone write me!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 23:11:28 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Just a little tidbit I thought was real interesting from the very first Misfits Bible! >From: Robert M Skwarek >Subject: Hump day! >Date: Wed, 4 May 94 13:29:00 CDT >The Misfits mailing list sounds cool...but to attract more people >I think you need to call it the G. Danzig list or something so it >will include all of his work. I do not know of anyone else to get >on the list. HA HA HA HA - Isn't it great what a little perseverance gets you? CG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:00:22 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: Happy Easter!! I'd just like to wish all the fiends in the Bible a very Happy Easter!! Id especially like to wish Crimson Ghost and all my very close Fiends in #misfits a very pleasant holiday weekend! :) Later, Earth A.D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:50:07 -0500 (EST) From: u9503090@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca Subject: Bible 159 > From: Crimson Ghost > -->Adam Christensen said: > >Once someone steps into the celebrities limelight their whole > >life is now public. Their fans now own them. Ask any star and they will > > >tell you the same, hell the enquirer gets away with slandering the stars > >every day. > As far as the fans owning them...I'll let Brett Fama handle that. I seem to > remember him having some pretty strong opinions on that. ;) actually CG, I'm not sure exactly to what you're referring, but since you extended the invitation... Adam: I don't know if you were speaking figuratively or something, or if what you intended to say just came out wrong, but take another look at your statement. You say that "the fans now own them." I'm not even goinddress the obvious ridiculousness of that, as I think Mark put it well enough last issue. But let's look at what you say next: "ask any celebrity and they will tell you this." In some ways, this is an even stupider thing to say. Think about: do the celebrities LIKE the way they are treated by the media? I can recall about three separate incidents in the past month alone in which a celebrity PHYSICALLY STRUCK paparazzi who were following and photographing them. > From: satan@relex.com > Anyone know anything about Danzig V? yeah, it succeeds Danzig 4p and precedes Danzig VI. haw haw haw... okay, seriously. Here's what *I* know, ALL of which has appeared on the Bible before (I think). The album will feature Glenn on vocals, bass, guitar and any other instruments, but Joey will be drumming. Supposedly Jerry Cantrell of Alice in Chains will be doing guitar on a cover of Black Sabbath's "Hand of Doom" (from the 1970 PARANOID LP). The album will also feature a re-recorded "White Devil Rise" and most probably "Deep" from the X-Files soundtrack SONGS IN THE KEY OF X. Eerir Von said on the Danzing Hotline that he heard Glenn does not want to be on American, and is waiting for the record-deal to go through with his new Evilive company. But "X" lists Danzig as "appearing courtesy of American Recordings", so who knows... if anyone has information that can add to (or contradict) what I've said above, PLEASE post it. > From: dieter zandor > Subject: X-files > The new Danzig is from what i understand in the 3:rd season, and i wanna > know what that X-files programe were about (name of it??) and that kind > of facts,cuz i dont wanna miss tapeing it, so please anything on that > topic is appreciated!! the episode is about these chicks who get into Satanism or something... the song (an edited portion; about 2 minutes total) can be heard during a scene in which the two girls are talking to a boy in a cafe or fast-food joint or something, maybe about 3/4 of the way through the show. Look for a part where Scully calls Mulder a "big macho man" after they have an argument about who's gonna drive. The Danzig scene is next. Or just go out and buy the X-Files cd, which is already out (but maybe not in Sweden...yet). **************************************************************************** okay, on a totally unrelated note... several people on past Bibles have mentioned the guy who runs "Music Man" (I can't remember his name) apparently a store in NJ or something that sells a lot of Misfits-related stuff, also through mail-order. The people all seemed to portray him as a rip-off artist. I bought soemthing from him out of Goldmine once. Any of you who have contact with him, please tell him he is a scumbag bastard who owes me a "Mother" promo-cd (the 1988 one, not the remix one put out in late 1993) or $13 US currency. Fuckin scumbag. *************************************************************************** -BBBBBBBB RRRRRRR EEEEEEE TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT BB B R R E TT TT BBBBBBB RRRRRRR EEEEE TT TT BB B R RR E TT TT BBBBBBBB R RR EEEEEEE TT TT "hope is not my name..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:37:15 -0500 (EST) From: u9503090@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca Subject: #155...LATE > From: "a.proctor" > When did the Misfits become huge Hulk Hogan types? Were they all > that big? Glenn is big now, but was he then? How about Franche and contrary to popular belief, Glenn was not THAT small when he was in the Misfits. If you work out and have a good eye for detail, and take a look at old Misfits photos... > From: Dave Asselin > Jerry & Doyle didn't overdub the Max's tape because of bad sound, > they overdubbed it to remove a certain guitarist from the recording. interesting... > Also, In Angelfuck, I just don't hear "She ain't loving you anymore" or > whatever. I hear "She says 'Nothing new anymore'..." as I told Mark, I hear "seems there's nothing new anymore." Hey Mark, would you object if I posted those 1000 lyric changes I've sent you over the months to the Bible? I know you don't wanna alter the "box" lyrics too much, but I'm wondering what some others think/hear... > This is in regards to the transcript of the 1981 > rehearsal tape and Crimson Ghost's breakdown of it. > Glenn: You guys are the first ones to hear this new song > (Referring to the fact that the song is being composed <-CG > right there at the moment) <-CG > Logically, this is just plain wrong. Disregard any discussion of who wrote > the songs, etc. Apply yourself to this situation, and you'll see how CG's > interpretation is way off base. That depends on whom Glenn was addressing. Was he addressing the other Misfits or was he speaking to anyone else who may have been present? If he was talking to non-Misfits, it would mean that either the song was composed on the spot, or that these people were simply the first non-Misfits to hear the song. I don't see how he could have been speaking to Jerry and the others (because they would obviously be the first ones, other than Glenn himself, to hear the song). > From Bobby Steele: > When I first joined THE MISFITS, we did T.V. CASUALTY and STATIC AGE. In fact > it should be on the LIVE AT MAX's XMAS recordings. I have a LIVe recording of > SPOOK CITY U.S.A. - recorded on our second visit to the 4TH STREET SALOON. I ! Really... > From: "Horror Businessman." > First of all...Wes, go kill yourself. Your an asshole. Why don't we ban > Jerry and Doyle from playing while were at it? actually, if you've been reading, many people do want to ban them from playing as the Misfits. > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) > I think > there are a lot of pissed off people that want the old days back and are > reluctant to accept change. Hey i would love to have the Misfits back as > they were, but that is not reality. nope, I'd rather have Lucifuge, even if I could never come within 100 miles of a Misfits song for the rest of my life. > From: mike westlake > Mark Kennedy said: > >This is ridiculous. I shouldn't have to 'defend' this man... > you don't need to defend him. those of us who care to find out about the > man do so and we don't run into this problem. > well stated, Mark. damn right. Mark and Mike, thank you for expressing the same stuff I was saying non-stop back in Oct-Nov. BTW Mark, I don't think I ever mentioned this to you, but I also really like your comments in #138. Only you should edit that back-issue so your post comes right at the end, as a fitting closing to the big issue. As it is now, you have someone saying it sounds like "cunts" in "Braineaters." -BRETT "let those bastards believe..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 15:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #160 I haven't been around lately due my missing mother. The FBI are working on this one clue however... Wes"CG is in bed with Jerry" Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 15:17:26 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #160 I think that the Bible T-shirts should be simple. No big deal or nothing. Just something cool that is just a little bit different so that we can all recognize each other at shows. It might be real fucking gay though because once other fans realize that we are all on the Bible it might be just some way of saying "I have a computer(or access to) and you don't". Why do we think we should have our own t-shirts? Is it so we can identify each other in public or is it because we want to be a bunch of fucking elitist? My girlfriend just got pregnant and we officially named the kid Jerry "The Cripple" Thomas. This is mostly because it fucking never shuts it's trap and has hidious hobble like the hunchback of Notre Dame. Wes"I'm back" Thomas ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 162 Monday, April 8th 1996 Today's Topics: PLEASENTS.... Box Set Victim! Misfits Auction/Sale last issue Re: Misfits Bible, #161 Last Ish Penthouse July 1981 Re: Are the new Misfits just in it for the $? RE: Misfits Bible, #161 QUESTIONABLE PRICES Earth AD Gold CD Crimson Ghost/Early Bible DOES ANYONE KNOW... Re: asld;jf! Misfits gang Bible 161 Bible 156...REAL LATE Misfits in Cleveland jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine ead cd for $$ shirts and various ramblings... "Music Man" Bible 158, also late John Christ is Alive and Well More on Danzig 5, Danzig bootleg Live 93, Philly Fiends? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:09:48 -0500 Subject: PLEASENTS.... Hey, You commented that you'd trade a patch for a tape of Max's....but all my mail to you bounces. Drop me a line, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 10:06:08 -0500 From: TheGreenJesus Subject: Box Set Victim! Well, I haven't posted in a while because all I have been doing is listening to my Misfits Box set over and over, and opening and closing the cool Static Age CD case. I think my wife left a week ago, I don't care. My dog died of starvation too, I lost my job and my mailbox is full of bills, Fuck 'em I got my Misfits box set dammit and nobody's gonna stop me! BWHAHAHAHAHA. I think I'm gonna set up 4 cd players so I can listen to all 4 CDs at the same time so I can get MORE Misfits into my skull! I'm gonna get in line May 1st for the Misfits show on the 11th, and I'm gonna bring my copies of the CD's with me, as a matter of fact, I'm gonna make 1 tape with the 100+ songs playing at the same time. NOBODY CAN STOP ME gotta go change the cd 43-146+6.5536 = -96.4464 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:01:06 -0500 From: clint@galt.com (Clint Golden) Subject: Misfits Auction/Sale Hi there Well, I've gone and done it again. I'm out of money. Thusly, I'm selling my Misfits stuff. Here is the list: Original Pressing stuff (AUCTION): Bullet 7" (second pressing, RED vinyl - 2000 made) MB $70 Evil Live 12" (German press, Aggresso Rock Prod.) MB $30 Evil Live LP (Caroline press, GREEN vinyl) MB $50 Legacy of Brutality LP (1st press, WHITE vinyl - 500 made) MB $100 Die Die My Darling 12" (1st press, pink lettering) MB $25 Bootleg stuff (SALE): 7"s - $10 LP - $15 2xLP - $25 Bullet 7" 3 Hits from Hell 7" 4 Hits from Hell 7" Horror Business 7" Live '79 - the Perfect Crime 7" Famous Misfits of Filmland 7" Rat Fink 7" Beware 7" Live Night of the Living Dead LP Eyes to Despise 2xLP If you need info on any of the above items, drop me a line, I'll be happy to expound. If anyone is interested, I'll sell the whole lot for $325. Please send bids or offers or whatever to clint@galt.com. thanks! clint ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:27:46 -0500 From: Zoltar Subject: last issue Adam Seven - Evilive was recorded with Googy in the band, not Robo. By the time it was released, Googy was out of the band and Robo had replaced him. Since Robo was the current drummer, but wasn't featured on the recording, they just didn't put a drummer on the album cover. Brett - post your lyric ideas here... it would be interesting to see what others have to say. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 10:53:39 -0500 (EST) From: 00grmosson@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #161 Hi, if anyone wants that Wes Thomas's guy phone # or address or any personal stuff about him I can help. Greg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 12:24:04 -0500 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Ish --->The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.aonline.com Said: > I was at Fred Meyer's the other day gettin my X-Files CD. >Anyways, I was looking in Misc. M and I found Compilation I and >Compilation II. Why the hell Does Fred Meyer's have MISFITS CDs? hmmmm. First off dude you gotta change your alias! I didn't say anything the first time you posted, cause I figured you were new and didn't know anything. But this is ridiculous, your even confusing me! Please change it, besides I've had that Alias for quite a while. Man this is almost as bad as the fake RaTTFink on #misfits. There's plenty of Misfit's related aliases that aren't taken to name a few: Francois Helen Delambre Cecille Vincent Price Prince Namor In answer to your question. Why wouldn't they be at Fred Meyer's ? (to those not from the pacific northwest Fred Meyer's is the equivelent of a Wal-mart or K-mart, or [insert your favorite cheap department store here]) In any case when I worked at Proedge Kenny landed the Fred Meyer account for Hobby Knives & kits. It could have something to do with that. ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ I wish they'd put Bill Clinton in a tomb... ...Hold on I think I have to puke... The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ #misfits channel op -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 14:08:01 -0500 From: Zoltar Subject: Penthouse July 1981 Fiends, do any of you have the 7/81 issue of Penthouse? Bobby Steele is in there somewhere.... mark ------------------------------ From: "Matt Gaffney" Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:59:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Are the new Misfits just in it for the $? To all Fiends, I was just wondering, are these supposedly new Misfits coming out with a new album? I always hear that they're playing songs from their old albums (from the 70's and 80's)! What's up with that? Can these guys exist without Glenn's lyrics? It has yet to be seen, by me atleast. I am trying to keep an open mind with the new Misfits, err, I mean the different singer and the guitarists. However, if this rekindled group wants to keep their name they have to live up to what it stands for. Which is kick ass lyrics and tunes, that are new and keep on coming. I am perfectly happy with the old misfit tunes, and if there were to be no more I would not be mad. But, why do these guys announce their return with no new album. Are they using the name to get our $? I mean, I don't want to hear someone else besides Glenn singing His songs. It just isn't right, would you like it if someone decided to make money off of singing your songs. I am sure I am going to get alot of heat from this, but remember, this is just what I am thinking, if I am wrong prove it to me, and I guarantee I'll have an open mind to it. BUT, I think I am right on the money and I believe most of you feel the same. Shifter ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 18:45:09 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #161 IF ANYONE NEEDS A TICKET FOR THE MISFITS SHOW @ THE STONE PONY IN ASBURY PARK, NJ...I HAVE AN EXTRA ONE, I HAVE TO SELL IT... also last bible...someone remarked about Samhain, well I think that.. they are soo amazing, sometimes I like them better than Dan or Mis, but hey , how can you like one, better than the other... I have danzig skull necklaces for sale...e-mail me for more info.. A BIG THANX TO MARK FOR DOING THIS GREAT BIBLE THING THAT HE DOES.. does anyone know if the MISFITS ever played a show with BAD RELIGION? just curios... sXe rules..i am cooler than everyone else in the world..i am on a pedastal. you all can't beat me..and I get more pussy cause i am sXe..muthafukaz welcome back WES THOMAS-i think that you are funny as shit!!!!! the goatboy- oh yeah, buy my bands demo, its only $2 ppd. to Adam 36 Jackson St. #2 long branch, nj 07740 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:52:37 -0500 From: Heather Chaney Subject: QUESTIONABLE PRICES Anybody out there going to the DC show May 1st? I might be, but it doesn't look good. A good friend of mine collects Misfits 7 in. and LP's and in his never ending quest to collect more he found a source in NYC. Recently, some original first pressings (I'm not sure which ones) became available and although they are only 7 in. I am appalled that for five of them he is going to pay $635! These prices would no where be thought of if people wouldn't accept them. If anybody can logically justify asking that amount of money for five singles I would be very happy to read them. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the Misfits from way back, but I can't seem to understand this. I can understand paying more than original prices but come on, this seems a bit steep. Anyway, looking forward to reading more of the bible and I'll talk to you soon. Brian Heather S. Chaney U8DA3@wvnvm.wvnet.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 19:15:23 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel King Subject: Earth AD Gold CD Surprisingly, I only got about 4 bids on the CD, and they were up there. The current bid is $75. And for those who wanted Beware and the Rest, I dont have it anymore, it was sent out today. If you feel like paying about $27, I can get you psychomania, which is a good CD. its at the local record store here, if you want the address or phone number, email it to me, they get a lot of bootlegs, but not many misfits ones. For all you horror movie fans, there is a cool magazine making the rounds, its called "Cult Movies" and it has ALOT of ads for places that sell copies of horror movies that are hard to find sometimes. Current issue is #17. And, just to add to all the shit above, Misfits sighting... Teevie sent me a GG Allin tape, and you can spot several Crimson Ghosts through out live shows. Woo Fucking Hoo. See you all on the IRC. #Misfits channel op. -Daniel King ------------------------------ From: Gouge3@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 00:08:01 -0500 Subject: Crimson Ghost/Early Bible Crimson Ghost... You freaked me out when you pulled out that clip from an EARLY Bible. What freaked me out was that I wrote it. I thought someone had my old account or something. That Bible entry was from when I was at college (NIU) and Mark and I were the first ones on the Bible. It was basically no different than private E-mail!!! It is amazing and beautiful to see how far it's come. BTW, Mark kept me up with snail mail Bibles while I was away from the Info Superhighway for two years and I have always respected your input. Gouge come ripping... ------------------------------ From: mbasheer@cwis.unomaha.edu Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 23:35:30 -0600 Subject: DOES ANYONE KNOW... WHEN DANZIG 5 WILL BE OUT? I HEARD IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PUNK.(?) I AM ALSO WONDERING IF I SHOULD GET THE VAMPIRA BOOTLEG. IT LOOKS GOOD BUT I'M REALLY CAUTIOUS ABOUT SPENDING MONEY, SO IS IT WORTH IT? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 01:00:45 From: Bobby Steele Subject: Re: asld;jf! >From: James.Sanchez@Dartmouth.EDU (James Sanchez) >I think it would be a good idea if you and some of the people on the list > who >were also close to the Misfits (especially the person involved with the > Mudd >Club, sorry i forgot her name - her stories are the best) would try and > work >together to compile a bunch of anecdotes and photos from the old days into > a >book form. the main difficulty would be finding a publisher. but since > you've >been in the business, maybe you could get in touch with Henry Rollins' > book >publishing company; since he's a fan of the band, maybe he'd be > interested. if >not, maybe we could do some wierd kind of Bible group investment thing. > hell, >i imagine there are enough of us. >i'd just like to say that those stories about the early days of the band > are >the coolest and i'm sure everyone would like to have more light shed on > that >period. and i'd like to see some more pictures of the band during the 'hor >ror >business' era. i'm tired of those goofy looking 1982 and '83 (obviously > the >band's decline) band photos. >and Bobby, are you ever going to release the live material that you have >recorded on audio and video? please say yes. > >james > I'm hoping to write a book about my days as a MISFIT. i've been just compiling all of the anecdotes, and I'll get someone to help me make it into a book. There'll be plenty of pictures from that era - if ya thought my hand looked good in the box set, wait'll ya see it in color. I'm working on trying to convince Jerry and Glenn to let me release the live stuff I have. I'm also close to locating the people who video-taped the Halloween '79 show. I've got a name now. I just dug up an interview we did sometime in '79 between the Halloween show and the U.K. tour, and I'm still searching for the EXILE show - which was my last. If enough people bug Jerry, maybe we can get him to go for the idea. Shit. We should put all the MAX's, Bethlehem and whatever else from that period on one CD. I've even got access to some video from the Bethlehem show. All we can do for now is hope for the best. >From: "AngelfucK" >To Bobby Steele, > I dont know if you will be able to respond to this, but I just >started listening to Sloppy Seconds and I was wondering what record >on whatever you played on. And thanks for your contribution to the >bible. After everthing you have said, I am definitly going to order >some Undead and Times Square stuff through your order form. I hope >you get everything you deserve. Angel, Thanks for the vote of confidence. Being on the bible and talking with all of you has really made me feel good. RE: SLOPPY SECONDS - I did WHERE EAGLES DARE. I don't know if you can still find it. It was on the CD "THE FIRST SEVEN INCHED - AND THEN SOME", but It might be on an upcoming UNDEAD release, since the agreement was that we both had release rights on the tune. >From: Bile666@aol.com >Subject: Chiller Theatre >I was in a hurry last time and forgot to give the dates for the Chiller > show. > It'll be held on Friday April 12th through Sunday April 14th. I'm not > sure >the hours but I think door close at around 7PM and open at 11PM (on Sat and >Sun). Sorry about that ... > >- BILE666. > Bile, I'm gonna try to make it to CHILLER next week, but it may be difficult - TIMES SQUARE is playing at CBGB's on the night of the 13th, so if I do go to CHILLER, 'll only be there for a short visit. I might be sharing a table with a friend, AL RYAN. BIG SEX/SKIN CRAWL will have a table. They'll be selling the EVENING OF DESIRE line of T-shirts and jewelry. I like going to these sort of things, so keep an eye open for me. Don't be afraid to say 'hi'. I think you can tell I don't bite. BOBBY >> From Art >> Another question for Bobby: I have a tape of Howard Stern's New Year's > Rotten >> Eve 1994, and at one point the camera pans over the audience, and I > could >> swear that I see you there. Is that you? If so, did you get to go to the >> party after and hang out w/those beauty paegant contestants? > >yes. this is listed in the discography on the web page of course. > Not only did I get to party with the contestants, I got to fuck the LIPSTICK LESBIAN - for a year-and-a-half. I almost married her, until she started fucking up. >From: Gala >Subject: Collect >And since I dont have much cash, to get these from you, I would either have >to trade or pay very little. Email me for info, I do have some stuff I can >let go of. > >Any Videos with Bobby Steele Daniel, Check THE UNDEAD catalog. It's in the web page i think (MARK?). I have ONE video, that's of decent quality, and whatever releases that are still available. >> >C.G.- if you don't like this then why don't you go ahead and print up >> >this edition of the bible and show it to jerry like you did with Bobby's >> >first couple of posts. Go cry to mama. Hey, leave CG alone. the guy's a decent person. Can't wait to meet ya, JIM >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:22:49 -0500 >From: "Horror Businessman." >Subject: Shirt and such > >I guess it is time for my commentary on the new and upcoming shirts. Right >on Goat...I agree the new artwork is cool, but its not the Misfits, if ya >know what I mean. They are great, I just can't see myself in one. I think >they should keep it to two, maybe three colors. Very simple, like the old >ones. It would fuckin rock if they reissued the old 7" cover >shirts...Bullet, HB, NOTLD, that would kick. Mark...... GOOD IDEA. I'd like to get a few of those myself >From: Warhammer >Hello all Warhammer here again > how goes it all? I am just responding to the last journal. >First of all I want to say good bye to Bobby it was great having you >on the list. I want to know I have the utmost respect for you I >hope you will get what you deverve. Hey, Thanks. I'm still looking in on ya...he he. >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:44:42 -0800 (PST) >From: PRH >"doooooo something with your little friend!!!!"and points to Bobby Steele, >who is spazzing out and puking and od'ing all over the place, he was drunk >as a fucking indian and somebody gave him some pill which in his drunken >state he stupidly took.... >And Steve comes running over to me and the blissfully snoring Bobby and >says, "YOU CHASED HIM OUT!!!!FOR TWO SOLID MONTHS I HAD MADE ARRANGEMENTS >FOR JOHN LENNON TO COME HERE AND YOU CHASE HIM OUT IN 5 MINUTES!!!!" >HE REALLY WAS STEAMED! It turns out that his friend Brian Eno had been For anyone who has any doubts; this is what REALLY happened. Of course, being the subject of this story, this was the first time I heard it told by an actual witness. This was the night I first met Patricia. >From: Gouge3@aol.com >Subject: Contradictions From Mars and Glenn Don't Care! >This has been discussed before, I'm sure, but recent discussions by Bobby >bring this topic back to my mind. >It seems like in all of the entertainment industry, there will always be >people who cannot keep a story straight. I immediately think of KISS when >paid $100 last summer to sit in front of them and listen to them > practically >swear off the idea of a reunion tour happening. Now look at what's > happening! > Am I happy they are doing a reunion tour? Yes. Do I feel lied to? Yes. > Why not just come out and tell the truth or at least say "no comment" to > the >loyal fans? What I can tell you, is that in this business "NEVER SAY NEVER" There is always a chance of a REAL MISFITS reunion. >From: Jon Holford >Subject: New Misfits >Also, about MAX's, why doesnt Jerry/Doyle wanta realease the original >undubbed? Or couldnt they bootleg it themselves(kinda). > >thankz... > -Jon That's what I want to know. I've told Jerry that I'd be willing to help out in any 'restoration' work he might need to do. I think it'd be great to combine the best of the MAX's show, and some of the LIVE stuff that I have into a CD. The MAX's show featrures more of the STATIC AGE songs, while the BETHLEHEM, pPA shows feature a lot of the HORROR BIZ / NOTLD songs, including SPOOK CITY. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 23:54:27 -0600 (CST) From: Jackal 138 Subject: Misfits gang Hello Fiends I hardly ever post to the Bible, but I feel this is something that should be known. Ok, there is a gang of kids calling themselves the Misfits. These kids ages range from 13 to 18. I just recently found out about this and when I found out I was like these kids need to get beat. What the hell a group of dropouts using the Fits logo and designs. The thing about this, is that tonight in cafe Voltaire I got in to it with there so called leader. I asked what deal was ripping off the logo and designs. His answer was since they are not around anymore we decided to take it. I'm like you dumbass moron, if you knew anything about Fits you would know that they are back. Anyway he questions me about rumors of me taking out his so called gang. I could easy take him out, but I'm not stupid. You take him out then you have a whole gang after you. It's one thing to be a fan, and it's another thing to rip off the greatest band of all time. My guess is that this group of losers saw maybe a Misfits shirt or something and decided this is cool, lets rip it off and act like it's our own thing. Here is another quick note. My best friend and I are starting a our own public acess show called "We are 138". It is going to focus on basically local Punk/Hardcore bands. Jackal 138 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 02:36:43 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: Bible 161 > From: CPERSL@acd.mhc.ab.ca > last summer i bought DANZIG live'93, a big picture of glenn, > shirt off,belt buckle shining, it said to contain last carress, london > dungeon as well as she riders, twist of chain, and some other fucked up hmm other than your description of the cover, this sounds exactly like the boot cd I have of Danzig at the Palace, Hollywood July 7/1989. This is on several bootlegs, including the cd "From Beyond" and partially on "Not of this World." Some of the spelling errors are the same (especially how "Last Caress" mysteriously is listed as a track). Just another case of bootleggers ripping people off and using incorrect information... [There Mark, I saved you the trouble of replying to a question that has an answer on the web page...] also, someone in #160 or #161 was asking about lyrics to "Deep." Of course Mark will tell you that, like everything else, these too can be found on the WWW page. I mailed him lyrics two minutes after I got the cd on the day it came out...doesn't anyone look at the page?? BTW if anyone thinks there are any mistakes or suggested alternate lyrics, please be vocal about it... -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 03:17:16 -0500 (EST) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: Bible 156...REAL LATE > From: She > work out. Glenn wasn't big in the Misfits days, but he was a wrester > in high school, so he was sort of athletic. ha! that's kinda funny. > > From: Dave Asselin > > 2) Am I also the only one who thinks that Glenn won't help correct the > > lyrics because they're generally pretty bad compared to what he writes now? > > As long as they aren't corrected by him he can disown them. > > Yes, I think this is a great theory. well, Dave and Mark, I thought that was a great theory too until I realized the problem...either way Glenn's name goes on the booklet. Regardlees of what he thinks of his Misfits-days song-writing, why would he want to be credited with the WRONG lyrics, which are most likely NOT AS GOOD as the real lyrics? Realize also that most people who are out there won't have a clue that Jerry corrected the lyrics, and not Glenn. > From: forkboy@durhamnews.net > Subject: Toronto date?And other comments I think my ticket came to $14.38 including tax. Apparently there wasn't the usual $4 or $5 Ticket Master service charge. Anyway the show's at the Opera House in Toronto on May 10. > Now some box set stuff.Why the F**k aint it realeased domestically in > Canada( at least in Ontario) the record stores have to import it and charge > me $100 plus tax!!($120 aprox total)Same with every other Misfits release check out Craig Walter's post about 5 issues ago. (I believe Craig's using the e-mail pseudonym "Guero" now for some reason...(***Craig! phone me tomorow if you read this, I still gotta give you those comic books...**) If you live near Hamilton, go to his store Dr. Disc (near Jackson Square) and you can get the box for $89.99 + taxes. (BTW Craig that's another sale you guys can thank me for...any chance of getting me on the payroll?) ********** finally, I would just like to express my disgust at some of you people. I have no idea who "Wes" and "Earth AD" and all these other people are who are having all these feuds about #Misfits. My space bar gets busy whenever I see that shit in the posts. All you guys (and there seem to be about 20 of you) seem to do is yap back and forth about who said what, who has good sources, blah blah blah blah blah. Who gives a fuck? Some of you guys sound like a couple of 12 year-old girls. Wake up. Here's a lesson I was taught when I was about 12: people are stupid. All the useless crap that's slung about in the Bibles is proof of that. 100% of the stuff on the page is useless for anything in life, but that at least I (and many others) enjoy reading, because we like the Misfits. So I am content to waste a little time (or a lot) on my Danzig-tastes. What I am not content to do is argue about meaningless bullshit that will not ever, ever, in any way, have any bearing on my life. A lot of the stuff lately goes way beyond flaming. And to take part in the immaturity a little myself, I'll leave you with this: those who flame are flamers. I realize that by even acknowledging the situation, I am succumbing to the stupidity, so I will speak no further on it after this. So if anyone wants to whine back at me, go ahead and use more of your own energy. That you do so when you know I don't care proves you're a pathetic worm. Sorry for the tirade, to the rest of you. (those of you to whom it does not apply, I apologize for wasting your time. The others...you know who you are). -Brett "pain is not the same" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 09:16:34 -0800 From: Ringworm Subject: Misfits in Cleveland Is anybody reading this going to the May 12 Misfits show in Cleveland at the Odean? I need somebody to go with as all my friends have yet to be enthralled with the 'fits. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 06:50:46 -0800 (PST) From: PRH Subject: jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine yet! so said patti smith, but she hadn't pushed fred sonic smith to an early grave yet..... okay, here i am. is anybody bored with me yet? just a couple of things and an anecdote: AON1--its all true. Believe me, i wish i could tell you fiends the things that aren't (mis)fit to print! but i am a lady and modestly would not speak of those things (burp). adam 7--i like samhain, maybe even more than the 'fits (sorry mark). definitely more than Danzig the group. nate--stay mad and 14, its the only way to be! EAD--i love you too sweetie. crimson ghost--thank you for the lovely dinner! wes thomas' mom was delicious prepared with those little potatoes roasted with her, and the minted peas were a lovely touch! i know earth AD enjoyed it! wes thomas--i think it is a great plan to for the fiends to present themselves as a bunch of fucking elitists with computers. Sieg heil, motherfucker! and now for the anecdote:i was reminded of this while i was reading the danzig (retch) newsgroup and somebody said "glenn wouldnt join the new 'fits because he hates those has beens" and i was suddenly timetraveled back to 1978 (really 78 mark, not 79)and i was sitting in the Gramercy diner with Glenn and Howie Pyro and Nick Berlin (remember him, Bobby?) and David Johansen came in...and immediately the boys started catcalling to him "geddoutahere you has been! go back to the retirement home!" and David with the machine cool he is famous for looked at them and said "better to be a hasbeen than a NEVER WILL BE!" who's sorry now, Buster Poindexter? "there is nothing more evil in the universe than man. His world is hell, and he himself is the Devil."--robert de grimston/founder of the process church of final judgement patricia nrwidow@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 12:57:01 From: Bobby Steele I just got the back issues of the bible, and I've read thru 154 & 155, and saw some things that were aimed at me, that musta been overlooked: >From: Eric Snook >Bobby: You said that the show at Muskegon ICE Pick was the Invisible Man >tour. However, the flyer from that show, April 30th, 1992 says the Live >Slayer Tour. What gives? Eric, Was that flyer mailed by me, or madeup by the club? Hell, I never really gave an "official" name to any tour. Jokingly, Me and John were calling it "THE INVISIBLE BAND" tour. I was promoting THE INVISIBLE MAN 45 on that tour, but it was also just 5 months after the LIVE SLAYER release. I like to consider the LIVE SLAYER tour to be the tour that that LP was recorded on. It's all a matter of semantics...it makes no difference, really >From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu >I think that Bobby should be banned from the page. He is a pathetic >sack o' shit that shouldn't be considered anything but a loser. >The same goes for Mark and Crimson Ghost. >Wes who IS this guy? Either he's being very sarcastic, or he's an example of the "dumbing down" of America. >From: DaveNaked@aol.com > You sent me 2 copies of "Dawn Of The Undead", so I'll send one back. Is > The Undead still alive, or are you full time in Times Square??? Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. I guess that's better than not sending any at least. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 17:32:57 -0500 (EST) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: ead cd for $$ Hey fiends- Just got the box set and have not left my room since. My favorite part is the big "M" that holds the disc in the static age case. As a result, I am selling my Earth AD gold disc. I'm asking $25 (EVB suggests $20-40, so I'm not being too much of a jerk... c'mon, I'm poor!) Realizing that I might get multiple offers, those who can correctly answer these questions will be given first consideration: 1. The robot on Mystery Science 3000 who looks like a gumball machine is named: (a) Crow T. Robot (b) Tom Servo (c) Gumball head. 2. The Bad Brains' best album ever is: (a) the untitled first "Roir sessions" release (b) Rock for Light (c) Worse Brains (d) Quickness 3. Black Francis was the singer for: (a) The Goats (b) The Pixies (c) The Dwarves (d) Jefferson Airplane 4. William S. Burroughs Sr. wrote: (a) Speed (b) Kentucky Ham (c) Naked Lunch (d) Blind Melon Act fast because I am prone to randomly changing my mind! aon-1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 17:13:47 -0800 (PST) From: All Hell Subject: shirts and various ramblings... I've noticed that everyone has been discussing the Misfits Bible shirt, I think that it is a good idea. No long sleeve shirts with CG's though, I already have a shirt like that. I was thinking that the shirt should be of a different color, like dark blue or something. All the MIsfits I have seen are black or white. I think that a different color alone would make the shirts a bit out of the ordinary. Just my thoughts. ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 10:44:07 -0400 Subject: "Music Man" Someone last issue mentioned that Louie the "Music Man" owes them a record or a cd and isn't owning up to his end of the deal. Well, don't expect to EVER get it. He might have some good stuff from time to time but it isn't worth being ripped off and having to deal with one of the worst personalities of ALL time. For example, I went there a little over two weeks ago to look at an "Unholy Vinyl" record. He was going to charge me $75 for a black vinyl version that was scuffed up and the spine beat in a bit. I told him I had to think about it (meaning "no") and he gave me a look and made some sort of pissed off noise and took it from me. I'm sorry I didn't want to be robbed blind! He sold EVB one of Jerry's bass guitars without telling her that Jerry had only loaned it to him for the front window and didn't tell Jerry that he'd made a buck off without Jerry's knowledge or permission! Bobby is a New Jersian. He's probably had a few dealings with the guy and I bet they've all been bad. He is an all around jerk to the Nth degree so be wary of him. I would never deal with him mail order. A very low class guy ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 03:08:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "B.M. Fama" Subject: Bible 158, also late first off: I have another Misfits sighting. I just watched a show on The Learning Channel called "The New Skinheads," and there is a scene where some of the rational, clear-thinking young lads were engaged in a tug-of-war. One was wearing a Crimson Ghost shirt. [that is *sarcasm* in the "clear-thinking" remark above] Next: > From: Guero > Subject: DEEP > eerie stuff. Anyhow, this reaffirmed my faith in Glenn being THE prime > writer in Danzig, and the complete musical genius behind the band - > though many of you will disagree. Also it is a relief not to here any of Craig, you know the only reason I disagree is that you limited your statement to Glenn being the prime songwriter for Danzig, when he was in fact the prime songwriter for Samhain and the Misfits as well. BTW how did you change your e-mail address? I wanna get rid of that stupid "B.M. Fama" crap up there on mine. And what is "Guero" ? last: someone posted recently asking about the chick in the videos for "Her Black Wings" and "How the Gods Kill." They are two different girls. The one in "Her Black Wings" is named Beckie Mullen, who has appeared in Playboy Magazine and on an episode of "Married with Children." Apparently there is a band called "The Beckie Mullen Experience" that is devoted to her. I can't remember where they are based, (as I read about them in a magazine about 2 years ago) but I think it was L.A or something. The magazine gave the address for her modelling agency or fan club or whatever, so I guess the guys in the band got in touch with the object of there worship. I know nothing about the woman in "How the Gods Kill", except that I'd like to meet her in a dark room. I don't know what use this information could possibly be to anyone, but since one of you asked... -Brett ------------------------------ From: Danzig4192@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:14:31 -0400 Subject: John Christ is Alive and Well Thought the Danzig fans among us might like to read the attached response I got when I emailed John Christ and asked him what he was doing making soundtracks for porno movies and if/when he was getting a band together. As you can see I got a prompt succinct reply that answered all my questions except can he really SING!?!?!? (could be scary). For those going to the Boston show, I am going if any other Bibleites want to meet there, etc. For those planning to buy tickets, you're probably out of luck as I got my tickets early last week and was told it was almost sold out. Later! Andy --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: Hello Date: 96-04-05 12:36:39 EDT From: BCRICHMAN To: Danzig4192 Hello, Yes, I did two soundtracks. No, it wasn't fun. I did them as a favor to for a director friend of mine. I'm not planning on doing any more. Too much work in too little time for too little money. Yes, I'm working on putting a band together. But first I am getting my voice in good shape. It's tempting to try and rush it. But when I'm ready, LOOK OUT! JC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:57:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: More on Danzig 5, Danzig bootleg Live 93, Philly Fiends? Hey Fiends, I have just a few things for this post. First off: Brett I thought Jerry Cantrell plays guitar on all the tracks for the upcoming Danzig 5. Didn't the "Noss" post that about a month or two ago? Please help us out with that one Noss! I too have that "Live In USA '93" bootleg that was mentioned last Bible. It's pretty good. I like the way that John Christ played the Misfits and Samhain songs. I emailed Eerie Von about this boot and he said that it couldn't have been from the 93 tour because they didn't play any Samhain or Misfits songs then. Just another example of the bootleggers trying to make a buck. Lastly are there any other Philly fiends out there? So far Im meeting Army of Nostradamus (sp?) there and a fiend that he's picking up along the way. There HAS to be more of you out there. If so please email either me or AON so we could maybe hook up there and hang out. Well that's all for now! Later, Earth A.D. So it shall be written; So it shall be done ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Bighouse Juice RE: Misfits Bible, #162 in it 4 the money Pick 4p medallion Re: Misfits Bible, #162 skinheads RE: Misfits Bible, #162 Last Issue Shirts\Artwork, More Shirts, Ohio Fiends, Lyrics and Jerry Cantrell Saturday Porno Porno Porno! shirts, record collectors, rock stars & punk rock some stuff I did it... Eerie's Band "Life w/out..." 'Cause that ink's so real alternate lyrics Netless life ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:31:31 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Bible shit and all other stuff... To all you fiends, just a little advice... 1) the bit about washing your Misfits shirt. this is the only way to make those t-shirts last wash it inside out cold water only when done in the machine shake it out, this will straighten and get it back to the true length hang it on a hanger when fully dry put it in the dryer to soften it. this is the only way to avoid shrinkage or holes. To Goat, you asked about the Parasites, i have one of there 7"s, and the last address their lead singer sent me(at least 2 years). You need to write Dave McCaenzie at 2640 Dwight Way, #105, Berkeley, CA 94704. If he still lives there he has a great list of records for sale. He sold me my original Walk Among Us promo poster and his roommate at the time sold me a first press Bullet. Also look in MRR, and as much as i hate to say it Peter Demattia should have video footage of them when they were still in NJ. if he hasn't moved it's 8 Haddon Rd, Hewitt, NJ 07421 Gouge, the interviews with Glenn done by Rikki were always negative. Rikki did not know how to interview Glenn and had a tendency to piss him off. If Glenn is into the conversation he looks you right in the eyes and never moves his head. You just have to know how to talk about the Misfits with him. Cause if you have the right records for him to sign and the right questions he will talk about the old days and usually gets carried away. He's the one person who contradicts the number of White vinyl Three hits from hell. Plus no one has ever come out with the fact that the black and white sleeve is rare as hell. Only 100 made. Back to the t-shirt for the bible members, i think we should use a real picture of the Crimson Ghost. Full body, holding the bible. Though i still think the shirt should be long sleeve. well till next time. TES777 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 00:33:22 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Just a few things. 1. I'm going back to Okinawa May 9th. I'm keeping the e-mail address, but my perm address is changing. If we do come up with an idea for a shirt before Aug 20, could you send me one to: PSC 79 Box 21691 APO AP 96364 It's considered an in country letter, so regular postage (what's that 32 cents?). I'll pay whatever the going price is for the thing when I get it. 2. I remember somebody mentioning The Misfits of Ska collection. I got it. I think i had a hard on for the whole thing, it was badass! I highly reccommend the Independents and would really like to hear a Misfits version of their "Bloody Knife, Bloody Night". Another band on there is Less than Jake. They have an e-mail address, I wrote them and they actually wrote back, hey better than bad religion. Mark: should i invite them to join the list? 3. I heard Deep, only once; is it me or does it not sound that great? I don't know what I was expecting, but it almost sounded as if he was trying to do a weaker version of old ministry with glenn's vocals. 4. I bought the Purple vinyl 7" boot Revenge Will Be Ours, I haven't heard anybody mention this one in a sale, I haven't listened to it yet, so I can't critique it; but does anybody know anything about this one? 5. Bobby: anything you want right now that I could trade you for some undead stuff (hopefully a cd) ? I ain't got the cash right now or the time for a catalogue. E-mail me if you're interested. Thanx, c-ya on #misfits, HorrorKid out, 6.19.77 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:37:32 -0700 From: Mark Saalwaechter Subject: op pride and nick owning Last issue, Crimson Ghost said: >hmmmm. First off dude you gotta change your alias! I didn't say anything the >first time you posted, cause I figured you were new and didn't know >anything. But this is ridiculous, your even confusing me! Please change it, >besides I've had that Alias for quite a while. Man this is almost as bad as >the fake RaTTFink on #misfits. etc.etc.etc. >#misfits channel op First of all, if this guy wants to be called The Crimson Ghost too, then so what. Trying to OWN a nickname is pretty stupid. *I* am that "fake" Rattfink that went on #misfits for a while, even though I have used that nick for about 3 years. I mean, I understand that it makes it difficult to know who the fuck you are talking to, but it's still just a fucking nickname. Anyways, I changed my nick to Psycho78 on the undernet (which someone already took, but it doesn't matter to me) and now it's H8breeder. My point? How do you determine who OWNS a nickname. If this guy has been using "The Crimson Ghost" for 70 years and recently joined the misfits bible, then does that still mean it's not his nick? Just a question. Mark E Saalwaechter <----- my new fucking nick msaal@cats.ucsc.edu #misfits1 op #misfits2 op #misfits3 op .... #misfits1000 op ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: shows & stuff i plan on going to the RI Mass CT and lancaster shows, anyone else going to these shows? i'm driving up from school in fl on the 2nd and i am definately going to RI and lancaster, i'm going to the others depending on how exhasted/excited i feel... well hope to see some of you there. shirt ideas... how about med. length sleeves ending between the elbow and wrist... white is a bad idea for a shirt color... they get dirty and blood shows up too easily, heh heh. seriously i don't even own any white shirts, and i even turned down the chance to accuire a white hatebreeders shirt. other stuff: C.G. call me stupid but i missed the correlation to prince namor and the misfits, and its really bugging me... what's the relationship? Cult Movies is a great magazine it has tons of old horror movie stuff in it check it out. Problems with that "misfits" gang? make sure they go to a show, i bet our "gang" is a hell of a lot bigger than theirs. fashion punks get kicked in the face. also to change your name in pine go to the main menu and choose setup, config, then enter a new name where it says personal name. i'm only posting this cause i figure someone else might also like to know. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ Date: 08 Apr 96 09:38:43 EDT From: "David P. Spampinato" <103353.3720@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #162 The dude who runs this is great, but he must be sick of the he said she said garbage. I will be at the cambridge mass show half heartedly yet hoping to enjoy. If anyone will be there drop me line. No fighting meatheads. keep that stupid shit away. The web page is cool. later dudes. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:42:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Baileys" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #161 In regards to why the labels on some bootlegs are wrong, this is a standard pro cess for bootleg companies. This comes about in two ways, the first is by acci dent. The people putting it together do not speak english and hence just mess up the english translations. Two: This is intentional as an identifying mark on their records to tell their work apart from that of people who pirate their work. If you want to know more about the workings of bootleg companies check o ut the hot wax books, they go in more depth about the intentional errors on boo tlegs. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:51:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Baileys" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #161 This is not to be a reply but i noticed that there are some misfits stickers on the back of a book in the movie Candyman II, the kid has a book in his room an d when his father the priest opens it up there are misfits stickers on it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:57:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Army of Nostradamus Subject: Glenny-boy's lyrics hey- I just want to comment on what's being kicked around here - people saying that Glenn didn't help out with the lyrics on the box set because he is embarrassed by them, because the stuff he writes now is sooo much better. Misfits lyrics are great precisely because they ARE stupid. If you can't understand that, there's no point explaining it. You see, Glenn used to have something called a SENSE OF HUMOR. I would much rather hear him sing about his astro-zombies raping the land than "I'm so dark, I'm so evil, mother keep your kids away from me because I am one bad motherfucker, I'm all messed up inside." I'm sorry, I REALLY don't want to start the misfits vs. danzig fight again (but if you want to fight about that you can email me personally rather than take up Bible space). But we are on the Misfits list here, and when you make fun of Misfits lyrics you are really making fun of us as people who LIKE them. my 2 cents aon-1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:09:24 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Philly show I live in DC, and I'm definitly going to the 9:30 Club show on the 1st. I'd also like to go to the Philly show on the 2nd, but I have no car. Mark said he 'might' be able to give me a ride, but nothing definite. If anyone in DC or around DC is going to the show on the 2nd, please e-mail me. I'm willing to pay gas, food, bribes, whatever. -Tarry ------------------------------ From: Zoltar Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #162 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:23:44 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Matt Gaffney" > Subject: Re: Are the new Misfits just in it for the $? > To all Fiends, > I was just wondering, are these supposedly new Misfits coming out > with a new album? I always hear that they're playing songs from > their old albums (from the 70's and 80's)! What's up with that? Can > these guys exist without Glenn's lyrics? It has yet to be seen, by Well, as it says on the page, they have new songs (the lyrics ARE on the page) and they will be recording a single for the song Black Light later this month or so. Around Halloween they will go into the studio to record their album. They have been playing five or their new tunes live in Europe. > these guys announce their return with no new album. Are they using They could record an album, but it wouldn't make sense to put out a new album right after the Box Set and Collection II just came out. They have to give the fans a break for a while. > From Goat > does anyone know if the MISFITS ever played a show with BAD RELIGION? > just curios... As far as I know, nope. Danzig has. > Brett Fama > well, Dave and Mark, I thought that was a great theory too until I > realized the problem...either way Glenn's name goes on the booklet. > Regardlees of what he thinks of his Misfits-days song-writing, why > would he want to be credited with the WRONG lyrics, which are most likely > NOT AS GOOD as the real lyrics? Realize also that most people who are out > there won't have a clue that Jerry corrected the lyrics, and not Glenn. Perhaps Brett, but remember that he refuses to autograph Collection II and even says that 'they messed it up and got the lyrics all wrong' or something like that. m ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 10:07:21 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #162 Dear Brett, Since when are flaming, useless, little girls not allowed in the Bible? Wes"Hitler had a German Shepard named Blondie"Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 10:19:09 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #162 Pat get's fat as she sit's at her computer and taps at the man known only as Wes. I've seen the light that is the Misfits and have thus decided to gather a small gang of 13 year old hip hoppers who have no idea of who the old misfits are and start the first ever misFits(the f is capitalized for copyright reasons) rap group. Wes "All girls who are into the Misfits are fat and ugly." Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 10:29:40 -0500 (EST) From: 00grmosson@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #162 I do not have any information on Wes Thomas. I apologise for ever being ignorant enough to mess with him. He has forced me to write the following message: "Don't fuck with me cuz I'm a she, you don't see how it's going to be. I can't beLIEve it's not BUTTer."\ He is the baddest man I've ever met. With this final comment I shall unsubscribe. Greg"Wes Thomas is a Genius of Manipulateing the Penis" ------------------------------ From: Snagglepuss <022588m@axe.acadiau.ca> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:44:12 AST4ADT Subject: Losing my account.... and other shit. Mark, I only have access to computers at school and I'm done on the 16th of this month. After that I'll lose my account untill September so don't send any more issues after the 16th. Hopefully I speak for everyone when I say thanks for providing us with a forum in which to discuss the coolest band to ever walk the earth. That is, when people actually bother to discuss the Misfits. Bobby, I think it's very cool having you contribute to the bible. It's great to hear stories of your days in the Misfits. Good luck with your music. John Matthews Windsor, Nova Scotia Canada P.S. Does anyone know the cheapest way to get a box set here in Canada? CG, Thanks for the pick. Glad I could help ------------------------------ From: DIEDARLING@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:54:18 -0400 Subject: Bighouse Ok, I had the opportunity to see Eerie Von's new band, Bighouse, on Friday. When this album comes out run and buy it! They were great!! Really good stuff! And who would've known that Eerie can sing...and really good at that! Guys thanks we had a great time! Can't wait for the album! DIEDARLING ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:28:32 -0400 From: Zoltar Subject: Juice Hey Fiends, I hear there's an interview with Jerry in a zine called Juice out there. In fact, I seem to remember reading about it here. Does anybody know anything about it? Mark ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:52:11 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #162 ATTENTION FIENDS: some of you old timers may recall discussion a few months ago about having a Mifits Bible Convention, and just the other day I remebered this idea. Well here is what I have to say about it. We could rent out a hall, preferably somewhere in the middle of the east coast (D.C.?), we could invite the NEW Misfits, all former misfits, have Misfits cover bands play, have vendors, and etc....it would be great....I good time would be the summer, because I am sure that the band will be taking some time off then... Let's gets rolling with this guys, it could happen easily, with a little motivation!!!!! please mention all ideas on the bible. If anyone is interested i have an autographed DANZIG ticket stub, signed by Glenn for sale..please e-mail me with an offer, I would definitely trade any video of SAMHAIN for it!!!! the goat- kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu buy my bands demo for only $2 Adam 36 jackson street #2 long branch, nj 07740 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 16:39:06 EDT From: Ken Graf Subject: in it 4 the money Hey fiends, I haven't posted for a while, but I just wanted to share some info with you guys. To those of you who think that Jerry is in it for the money, I've got something for you! I heard this weekend that tix for the KISS reunion tour were going to be possibly twice the amount of money that Eagles reunion tix were on sale for. Do the math, that's close to $200! Granted, KISS was a much more popular band than the Misfits, and all of the original members will be there, but still, $200? (i hope for the sake of KISS fans, this is not true ) Now let's turn to the other side and look at the Misfits shows. I paid $11.50 for my ticket. Now even though Glenn will not be attending the festivities, I would pay a HELL of a lot more to see the Misfits live. I think many other people would as well, but Jerry and co. are not doing that. $11.50 for God's sake! In it for the money? Talk to Paul Stanley! --Lord Kenatos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:02:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Tyler Subject: Pick I wanted to say thanks to C.G. and Jaime because I got my pick this last weekend. Lisa T. "I love animals. It's people that make me puke." --Harry "Nails" Niles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 15:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Subject: 4p medallion did anyone out there in danzigland manage to snag a 4p medallion off of the last tour who is willing to part with it? i don't know what i'd be willing to pay at the moment, but i know how much they DID cost, and i'm sure it would be a little more. however, i'd like to keep things reasonable. email me if you can spare it. Mike mtw4@axe.humboldt.edu ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:40:18 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #162 I think the Misfits should write a song or two about the Evil Dead movies. That would be cool. And Bobby, the day I emailed you I just happened to come across that Sloppy Seconds CD you mentioned. The guy under put it under the counter for me and as soon as I get some cash Im going to get it. God Im poor. Let me see, I want to order some Undead stuff, evans vid of the coney island show, that sloppy seconds cd, an old fits vid and about a million other things. Being poor sucks. Later Roger ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:52:06 +0200 Subject: skinheads fama, what's wrong with skinheads? SHARPs are cool (SHARP=skinheads against racial prejudice) ... it's just that skinheads are always associated with nazis... it's the goddam media's fault. -greg petre ------------------------------ From: JACKSON017@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #162 3 quick and insignificant things- i have a 'bootleg' with the following on it horrorbusiness-londondungeon-lastcaress-halloween-hollywoodbabylon-spookcity- horrorhotel-attitude-notld-whereeaglesdare-ratfink-she-cough/cool-138- whokilledmarylin-teenagersfrommars-childreninheat-bullet-ghoulsnightout- returnofthefly-hybridmoments-iturnedintoamartian-horrorbusiness-childreninheat- skulls and vampira im looking to trade this for other misfits bootlegs im buying the box set finally!! and ill be at the may 6th show in danbury ct... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 11:32:20 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Last Issue First off Rob Swarek: Good to have you back man!! Matt Gaffney Said: > I was just wondering, are these supposedly new Misfits coming out >with a new album? I always hear that they're playing songs from >their old albums (from the 70's and 80's)! What's up with that? Can >these guys exist without Glenn's lyrics? It has yet to be seen, by >me atleast. I am trying to keep an open mind with the new Misfits, >err, I mean the different singer and the guitarists... >....and keep on coming. I am perfectly happy with the old misfit tunes, >and if there were to be no more I would not be mad. But, why do >these guys announce their return with no new album. Are they using >the name to get our $? I mean, I don't want to hear someone else >besides Glenn singing His songs..... >...just what I am thinking, if I am wrong prove it to me, and I >guarantee I'll have an open mind to it. BUT, I think I am right on >the money and I believe most of you feel the same... Hmm, Matt it looks like you've already made up your mind. as I read your post and it brought me back a few years. I was thinking about AC-DC. I remember buying Highway to Hell and not long after that Bon Scott died, then the band decides that they're gonna get a new singer and they want someone that sounds like Bon. I remember reading all about Brian Johnson and thinking the way you do. That is until Back in Black came out. Brian Johnson was able to fill in Bon's shoes perfectly. OK you may say AC-DC got lucky but, hey what the hell. By the same coin I remember when all the shit went down in Van Halen, I was into David Lee Roth. When Sammy Hagar took over I thought it really sucked and the band never was quite the same. My point is you can't close your eyes or your mind until you've heard them play and they put out new material. Then and only then should you make comments like you have. Unless of course your one of those people that is totally against change. Give it a chance. back to your post, what did you mean by guitarists? The guitarist that they have is the same guitarist that they had when the band broke up. Maybe I'm reading your post wrong. ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ I wish they'd put Bill Clinton in a tomb... ...Hold on I think I have to puke... The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ #misfits channel op -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 03:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Shirts\Artwork, More Shirts, Ohio Fiends, Lyrics and Jerry Cantrell Hey my brothers and sisters, Haven't written for a while so I thought I'd put a couple of things together. Bible Shirts: Here's my idea for the Bible Shirt. By the way, I personally like the artwork on the new shirts, so this kinda ties in with that kind of idea but it's still cool.(guess I'm white trash :), even The Ninjas think so, what with my red camaro and all. Anyway, I picture the inside of a church with stained glass windows and all (the artist could hide whatever stuff they wanted in the window patterns themselves.) Anyway, the left side of the picture would be the Crimson Ghost standing at the altar or podium or whatever it's called. He's all decked out like a priest with the white collar and such and he's reading from a book that looks like a Bible with the felt thing hanging out to mark the page. Only the book is the Misfits Bible. As you pan to the right there are the benches or the pews with the members of the Bible or fiends praying or what not and they're all drawn reminiscent of the creatures on the Earth A.D cover (ghouls with devilocks and decaying bodies.) And as an added bonus I think it would be cool if the first row of seats, which of course would be closer up, could have a rendition of Mark and C.G. and whoever else we decide, as ghouls, and they could be wearing shirts with the logos of all the bands on the list who cover Misfits tunes: i.e.- Adam West, The Ninja's, Astro Zombies, Devilock, etc. (Sorry if I forgot some.) This would also leave it open to add some of the other ideas people had of stuff on the back and sleeves and Bible numbers. Let me know what you all think. I personally would like to see Neil McAllister or Greg Petre draw this. They both kick ass as artists. (Check out Greg's page, WAY COOL STUFF!) http://homepage.interaccess.com/~ols Crimson Ghost Shirts: This long sleeve shirt that a lot of people keep describing, already exists. I own one. It's not really a t-shirt, it's that thick 100% cotton kind. Real good quality and the printing on it is pretty solid too. It's black with long sleeves and all it has on it is the crimson ghost real big in white on the front and five little ghosts running down one sleeve. I don't know what company manufactures it but, it is fruit of the loom and I got it here at a local record store in Columbus, Ohio. They don't sell it anymore but I could try to get some info on where they used to order it from and let you all know if anyone is interested. Just let me know. By the way, they still do sell the t-shirt version which is black, short sleeved and has the CG real big in white on the front with nothing else. So if someone wants me to check up on one of those for them also, again, let me know. Ohio Fiends: This will be the third time I've tried this. I would like to get the names, E-mail, and snail mail addresses of all the Ohio Fiends on this list. Not only so I can inform you if Devilock will be playing in your area and to correspond with some of you about the band, but also to let others know you're out there. Please, if your in Ohio and on this list just E-mail me. You dont have to write anything just give me your name and e-mail, and snail (if you dont mind.) Besides, it will help us figure out who is going to the Cleveland show on the 12th. See you there. Come on brothers and sisters, Mail me Dammit! We could even be the first state chapter on the list. So far, I know of (but no addresses): N. Veauthier, M. Kramer, K. Huening, D. Jacobs, GothikEye, Ringworm, and Nike(OhioU). Mail me guys and/or gals. Lyrics: I like Brett's idea about discussing the lyrics more often. In fact, I started a small discussion a while back about this same thing and it caught on a little bit. So I'll throw one out; in Violent World: "when the opportunity comes, can't afford to rot everybody." The second time he sings it, yes, but the first time, "when the opportunity comes......" after that, I hear something totally different. Unfortunately, on the lyric sheet for Walk Among Us this part is ommitted. Listen to the sessions disk and you can hear a lot of different shit at that point of the song lyrically. On all three versions. Any ideas? Jerry Cantrell: Someone wanted to know what I posted about Jerry Cantrell and the New Danzig album so here is what I originally posted: >Hey Fiends, >Just thought I'd let you all in on some info I read in a small >paper out of Cleveland called "Scene." The following snipet >was in the Feb 8th-14th issue: >"With Alice and Chains on hiatus and Danzig sans a guitarist, >AIC six-stringer JERRY CANTRELL has ageed to lay down guitar >tracks for Danzig's latest album project. Singer Glenn Danzig >is playing bass on the record, though the group is expected to >replace departed bassist Eerie Von and guitarist John Christ >in time to tour." That's all I know at this time and this mag is usually pretty good at being factfull so, take what you want from it. Just a couple more quick things: Whoever wanted the Concrete Sampler with the Misfits on it can E-mail me, I have an extra - but apparently they think the song is called "Bullets". I guess they dont believe in the single bullet theory. And to Chris (ChristoTer@aol.com), I was wondering if you sent my shirt out yet, brother. Thanks for listening, Later, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:29:31 -0400 From: Zoltar Subject: Saturday For all you fiends that will be attending the Chiller Theatre Horror Convention in Secaucus, NJ this weekend, Times Square will be performing later that night in New York City at CBGB's - so be sure to make the short drive into the city to see them. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:13:08 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: Porno Porno Porno! Anybody know what X-rated flicks John Christ did the music for? What with this and the Penthouse Bobby Steele appearance, it seems as if I can finally marry my two true passions: Misfits and HARDCORE PORNOGRAPHY. lotsa love and heavy breathing, Teevie >;0) hey kid, wanna see some crap?.... http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~ssisson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:28:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "William P. Musso" Subject: shirts, record collectors, rock stars & punk rock What's the fucking deal with the long sleeve shirt idea! HELLO out there.............It's almost SUMMERTIME! I think you people are spending too much time at your computers. Look out the window! Why the fuck would you want to wear a long sleeve shirt to a crowded show during a summer tour! The more I hear about these shirts, the more I think it's a dumb idea. Pictures of crosses? The CG reading a bible? This is the MISFITS, not FUCKING STRYPER! And make the shirts blue? BLUE? Yeah, right! Fuck that shirt! I know I'm going to take a lot of flack for this, but I'm really worried that all of these Danzig, Metallica, Kiss etc. fans are going to ruin the Misfits, and that's if the `fits don't (and I hope they don't) ruin it themselves. This is punk rock, kiddies. It's not about rock stars, hero worship, or commercial success like those stupid metal magazines you buy at the grocery store would have us believe. What's this I read a few issues back about the `fits cancelling a show because it didn't sell out? I thought the fans were supposed to come first??? Bobby, you said something a few issues back about someone who accused you of having a rock star attitude. Well, I wish it weren't true but I would have to agree with her. I've got Never Say Die and Act Your Rage and I really like them. But I doubt I will get any more stuff by the Undead now that I know about you and your manager's major label and MTV aspirations. I disagree with you. Punk Rock is not about a poor boy's way to get off the streets and become rich and famous. That's rap! Punk is about EATING the rich and famous. It's about being against the status quo, not becoming part of it! And it's about the members of the bands being no more important than any of the people who love their music. That brings me to my next big gripe of late. Anyone who would pay those idiotic collector prices for a record or CD is doing a huge disservice to the punk rock scene. These are not museum pieces! They are great records to be played and loved! Record collectors are not punk rock. They are small-time leeches! If you want the music, buy the box set or tape it if you can't afford to. And while youre at it, TOUCH the CD cases, look at them, enjoy them, let them get fingerprints and scratches. WHO CARES! At least you can say youre enjoying them!!!! You look so good in red........ -----PSYCHO BILLY ------------------------------ From: Krusty704@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:41:59 -0400 Subject: some stuff i was wondering if the misfits had their midwest tour all set up-if they don't i know this great place in bloomington illinois called the lafyette club(holds 200 people ) mark, if you think the 'fits would be interested i could give them the exact address or the number someone asked what bands the bibleers were into so here goes: i of course like the misfits, and rancid, dead milkmen, dead kennedys, minor threat, bad religion, exploited, nofx, uk SUBS, total chaos, operation ivy, mighty mighty bosstones, voodoo glowskulls, the independents,7 seconds, skankin pickle, black flag, thats about all i can remember also does anyone have any independents records, or discs i could buy?hmmm... until next time chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:19:11 -0500 From: "Tammy S ." Subject: I did it... Bible shit-------------------------------to add to the other stuff 1) Misfits sighting - To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything! Julie Newmar Crimson Ghost tye - dyed t-shirt on one of the town boys, which is seen in a good portion of the movie. 2) To the Florida fiends - if you have not gotten your boxset Coconuts Music has it for $62.00. 3) To the guy who asked about the x-file episode, the two girls were not satanists, they have powers that loose control when they get mad or have hate for someone. Then when their birthdays(which i believe were the same day) come which was also the night of Syzygy (which is when the full moon is in line with the earth and the sun) thus enhancing their powers and basic storyline "All Hell Breaks Loose." I wouldn't worry if you missed it summer is repeat time and season three will fully repeat till the fall when season four premiers. 4) This is up to Mark, but how would all you fiends like to do a Get to Know You issue of the Bible!?! there was one done quite awhile ago, yet time has passed and now there are something like 700+ of us, Well Mark!?! TES777 ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 23:36:30 -0400 Subject: Eerie's Band Some friends & I had a chance to see Eerie's band "Bighouse" last Friday evening in New Jersey. It was a great show! We were really impressed with Eerie's singing. As for the music, well, I'm not one for "labels," but I'd describe it as a "driving, blues rock sound." Eerie was on bass (obviously!) and did about 70% of the vocals; Rick Dittamo was on guitar & contibuted some vocals; & a fellow named Rich was on drums. They played for a little over an hour to a most appreciative audience. They did a really good cover of--if I'm not mistaken--an old Temptations tune, "(I) Wish It Would Rain Down." Eerie seemed really relaxed & was obviously enjoying himself immensely. We had a wonderful time--it was well worth the trip! Many thanks to Eerie & Co., his friends, & his lovely "significant other" for their kindness & hospitality; we won't forget the evening any time soon :-) PDH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:10:48 +0000 From: dieter zandor Subject: "Life w/out..." Hey, Im back from the easter holliday , fatter than ever, and Mark, sorry to hear you didnt hve info on that boot, know i dont know if I shall order it...SOMEONE PLEASE,INFO???!!!! Thanks for the info on the X-files Brett&Mark(I know i shoulda checked the discogr. but the computer was slow and i was angry), Now I cant miss tapeing it!! Another quick thing HOW THE HELL DO I QUOTE SOMEONE`S MESSAGE??? It always ends with half the bible getting stuck in my mail,and i hafto wright the whole message again, so annoying... And i got a lyric idea, its in Angelfuck, when he sings"Little angelfuck i see you going down on a fireplug" Im certain that he sings: Little angelfuck i see you going down on pile of blood." Its cooler,better and sounds more accurate,listen for yourself!!! Mark, the chance of someone having that Penthouse issue isnt that big, but since Bobbys in it maybe he has it,Bobby??? (is he naked in it?,just curios...) Well,bye for now... ...over and out... -blip- ------------------------------ From: Gouge3@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 08:48:39 -0400 Subject: 'Cause that ink's so real Does anyone out there have any GOOD copies of Crimson Ghost tattoos? I am thinking about getting one, but I want to see some different designs on human flesh. I am debating what colors to include and exclude. Any idea? Feel free to send any downloaded pics if you have them or E-mail me personally so we can talk. Look upon me I am the Gouge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:51:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Fama Subject: alternate lyrics listen REAL closely to get these. Some seem to make less sense than the box-set lyrics, but listen close and post your thoughts... "Who Killed Marilyn?" : "no X-crime, no X-urge" [instead of "no answer for the accident"] "Ghouls Night Out" : "the human hell of bleeding flesh" [instead of "humans held on bleeding flesh"...not too sure about that one] "Angelfuck" : "seems there's nothing new anymore" [instead of "she isn't loving you anymore"....I also like the altered line someone posted recently about "dry you thighs" instead of "eyes"] "Theme for a Jackal" : "little sister on the front lawn" [instead of "little sister all of my love"] "Earth A.D." : "living hell is not so bad" [instead of "people gonna talk about"...I'm sorry, I just cannot see/hear how this line appears ANYWHERE in this song!] ...*****MANY***** more uncertainties about this whole album... "Devilock" : "chopped up, hacked up...???" [instead of "shotgun blast a demon piece of lead"] "Mommy, Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?" : add: "...and just say" right after " 'cause it's my mommy's dream" [thus it reads: "I'll bring back a souvenir 'cause it's my mommy's dream, and just say: can I go out and kill tonight?" (**if you listen closely to the studio version, there is an extra line that Glenn sings that does not appear in the lyrics for WAU, and I believe that this is what he says) "Spook City, USA" : "well it sends an eerie invitation" [instead of "here it stands an eerie invitation"]...see also the other change to the lyric book that Mark made on the WWW page "Children in Heat" : "wind up running away" [instead of "why I'm running away"] listen REALLY close for this one. SAMHAIN/DANZIG: I think Mark put all the additions/changes on the WWW page lyrics already, so skim through those if you're interested... I still wanna know what the 2nd verse to "Kiss of Steel", the one missing word in "You and Me (Less than Zero)", and the ending yells in "Tired of Being Alive" are. I will pay money! Hopefully the Samhain box-set will have all the correct lyrics, (including the ones for Unholy Passion and Final Descent, plus "Mephisto Waltz"...but don't hold your breath for "Mephisto" lyrics). Also, the N-C-F lyric sheet omitted the 2nd verse in "Kiss..." so I'm afraid Glenn might not notice the error when he does the lyrics for the Samhain set. (Notice that the Misfits box-set is still missing the 3rd-verse words for "Violent World", just like the WAU lyric sheet did) let's hear those suggestions... -Brett ------------------------------ From: kansli@teletronik.se Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:03:57 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Netless life Hi fellow Fiends! Wow! 1:st post. Mark and Howl, you wanted some info on the "Life without a net" Danzig boot. Trax: 1. Twist Of Cain 2. Am I Demon 3. Possession 4. Mortal Sin 5. I'm Evil (It really is Trouble) 6. Soul On Fire 7. Die For The Demon 8. I'm Evil 2 (Different version of track 5) 9. I'm Evil 3 - " - - " - 10. Chaos 11. Snakes Of Christ 12. Dirty Black Summer 13. Mother 14. Do You Wear The Mark 15. She Rides 16. Her Black Wings 17. Pain In The World Trax 1-10 are from the Twist Of Cain demos (86-87), and trax 11-17 are recorded live on their 92 European tour, although it is not stated where. The sound quality is average for a boot. It was released in 1995 on the very famous Planet Records label. Well, that's my two cents. See ya. Mommy ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 164 Friday, April 12th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #163 Lyrics Re: Misfits Bible, #163 Convention, round two stuff nothing exciting Lyrics Re: Misfits Bible, #163 me again! BiBle SHiRT Box set subscribe Ouch! My Tongue Records. RE: Misfits Bible, #163 White Devil Rise DISCRIMANATION BECAUSE OF AGE!!!!!! Life Without A Net; the other Fiend Club Great DANZIG Bootleg - anyone want a WAV from it? Any chance of helping me out ? Re: Misfits Bible, #163 jiggety jack juice a little compassion for Wes, OK? Angelfuck Read This! Noss Re: Crimson Ghost other bands Bible 163 Mommy, can I respond tonight? Bit's for the bible shirt Update 4/12/96 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zoltar Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #163 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:18:08 -0400 (EDT) > From Psycho Billy > I know I'm going to take a lot of flack for this, but I'm really > worried that all of these Danzig, Metallica, Kiss etc. fans are going to > ruin the Misfits, and that's if the `fits don't (and I hope they don't) > ruin it themselves. This is punk rock, kiddies. It's not about rock What? I think you just crossed out more than half of the Misfits fans out there, along with many of The Misfits themselves, past and present. Sure this might be punk rock. But most importantly it's The Misfits. The Misfits shouldn't be expected to live up to anyone's so called 'punk rock' ideals. They're just a band and they're going to do the things that they believe in. It's that simple. > Bobby, you said something a few issues back about someone who > accused you of having a rock star attitude. Well, I wish it weren't true > but I would have to agree with her. I've got Never Say Die and Act Your > Rage and I really like them. But I doubt I will get any more stuff by > the Undead now that I know about you and your manager's major label and > MTV aspirations. I disagree with you. Punk Rock is not about a poor So, do you actually care about the music, or what? If he's making good music and not ripping you off, why does it matter what his record label is? If you don't want to see him on MTV, don't watch it. Remember that the Misfits AREN'T going to charge the same prices that you might charge... We'll all just have to deal with that. Hmmm. Open minds are good to have. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:53:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Asselin Subject: Lyrics >From: Frank Fama >"Angelfuck" : > "seems there's nothing new anymore" [instead of "she isn't After listening to this song again, I really agree here. >"Children in Heat" : > "wind up running away" [instead of "why I'm running away"] > listen REALLY close for this one. I've always thought there was an unpronounced "it's" in this line, so that the lyrics would read: Children in heat/you can't control them/it's why I'm running away - Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:14:48 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #163 I have gone to the extreme trouble of conntacting 200 Bible members that all firmly believe that if we are to have some sort of bible clothing then it should be either: Bible briefs with a Crimson Ghost on the crotch and Glen flexing on the ass or child size cowboy hats with a string(so it doesn't fall of in the pits) that say "Wes is the coolest Bible member of them all." Brett is the one who masterminded these ideas and encourages there prodution. Wes"Some people take music way to seriously. It's just sound." Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:03:30 -0400 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Convention, round two Hey! It's back! Adam mentioned the bible convention thing again last issue. I still think it's a great idea. But first and foremost, I think it's important to mention that the odds of getting the band to show up are slim to none, given that they'll be touring all summer. So it would probably be in our best interest to scrap the idea of the Misfits making an appearance. As far as the rest of goes, I don't see why not. I posted a lot of ideas last summer about this, and Adam just summed them up last time, but here's what I think a year later... Basically, I have all of the resources available at my fingertips to pull this thing off. In the past year I've become president of the Asylum (a university organization that brings in bands) and thus I've gained a lot of power within the university ranks. I can get us a place on campus (Penn State) to hold the damn thing. This could run us anywhere from $40 (total) to nothing at all - it depends which building. As far as bands go, I say we shouldn't have more than four or five...trust me on this. Also, I think that having five Misfits cover bands is a * terrible* idea. Who wants to hear the same set for five hours+ ?? A better option would be to have the original, more established bands on this list play their sets with a few Misfits covers thrown in here and there. The cost of having bands play would be $275 total because that's what the best soundman around here charges (and he's GOOD!). And of course, people can set up tables and booths and that sort of thing. Everything said and done, having a convention like the one I mentioned above would run us $315 tops per day. Unless some rich kid out their wants to cover the whole thing, we'd have to all split the costs involved (at least those attending would...). This could be in the form of a door fee or pre-sale tickets. So what do you guys think?? I could definitely pull this off if there was enough interest. I imagine this thing could take place in late July/early August - I'll be on tour before and after that. So post all ideas and concerns here in the bible - who knows, maybe we'll finally get our crap together and do this thing. Thanks - Brent http://www.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Artists - click on "S" and scroll down to Smackerals of Hunny ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:55:38 -0400 Subject: stuff 1) who cares? if the guy wants to be crimson ghost let him. if he starts using your signature, then there's a problem. but until then, no harm done. 2) i'm sorry to say this, but i just can't get into the new misfits lyrics. glenn seemed to have some kind of tact. these just seem too cheesy. and who ever compared glenn's newer lyrics to the misfits ones, don't. you obviously don't get it. if you had said that about some cheesy typo o negative crap that would been funny. D.EVIL ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:46:03 +1100 Subject: nothing exciting Hello again Where to begin? I read in the last bible that ringworm(only name I could find attached to your post) was wondering if anybody here was going to the cleveland show well the Warhammer intends to be there in full uniform however I have nno misfits shirts so I will probavly be in all black I too am having transportation difficulties as none of muy driving friends listen to Misfits but if I have to hichhike I am going. Email me if you want to arrange A meeting or something. To Patricia you fukin rule. will you be my goddess? WAnt to say Hi to Bobby you fukin rule!!!!!!! to Wes: are you on crack? this is Marks fukin baby he created it so he should not have to go. If you don't like him don't read his shit okay!!!!!! to Aon 1b Tom servo 2a untitled first album roir sessions 3a the goats 4a speed I am guessing on a few of these nbut I want that CD Question: How is deep? I want to buy the soundtrack but can't afford it right now. Are there any dates on Danzig V release? As i said Earliar If anyone is going to the Cleveland show And ERie Pa might be on your way I need a ride to the show If I can I will pay some Gas Money I also have a friend who like me needs a ride he has more money than me so If there are any fiends out there from this area please contact me. If there are any fiends on this list that live in ERie or near, even if you are not going to the show please contact me I want to find some new people to hang out with and anybody from this list would fukin Rule. well have to go now talk to ya all next issue. fiendish salutations The Warhammer p.s. BOBBY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCONO" Subject: Lyrics Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 12:12:00 PDT Fiends, This one goes out to Frank Fama about his thoughts on the lyrics.... I agree with you on the Earth A.D. but on Ghouls Night Out I've always heard, "Human hell of eating flesh." Sound good? Later - Chris FIENDS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Baileys" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #163 $200 for one show?????????????????? Not to get off the subject but that is red iculous. They had trouble selling tickets to the revenge tour at $15@ Well i would gladly pay $11.50 to see the misfits if they would ever come near my neck of the woods. Instead i have to settle for wanna be college boy bands who thi nk Green Day is actually a good punk band. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:36:54 -0400 Subject: me again! once again, punk rock: "...punk is about eating the rich..." maybe if you're talking about jello bi-sexual. compare the more political lyrics of the dead kennedys to the stories about ghouls, ghosts and werewolves of the misfits, or the songs about being wasted, drinking beer, spray painting the walls and watching tv of black flag, and don't forget the lovely love songs of the damned. are any of these bands not punk? i always thought punk was just the attitude, no matter what you had to say. you could be punk singing about grape nuts if you're loud,rude and raunchy. it's not about major labels or whatever. the only reason punk bands generaly aren't on major labels is because until now nobody wanted to hear them, but their loyal fans who were few compared to the mainstream. D.EVIL ------------------------------ From: Ronald Barned Subject: BiBle SHiRT Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:41:16 -0500 Hi, I really lke Keith's idea for the "church" bible shirt, although it is = a bit detailed. Either this idea or just a really simple black+white shirt as = mentioned. Sorry for taking up valuable space, I'm done. Oh, and lets = see more shirt idea illustrations on the page too. Exiting, Kyle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:56:01 +0200 From: Wolverine Subject: Box set Soon to have the box set. 90 $, prett average for 4 CD's. Only one in Norway, mine, all mine - hahahahaha... I saw someone asking about Crimson Ghost tattoos, Henry Rollins has one (on his left arm me thinks) and that one is all black. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:47:00 -0500 From: Sean Subject: subscribe I've been following along for a while so I'll post something. When a friend of mine and I saw Danzig in Dallas on the Thrall/Demonsweat tour he did something that may or may not be out of the ordinary. For his last encore he said something like "you've been good to us...so we'll do something old" and then they played London Dungeon. Some of you probably think I'm full of shit but I have no reason to make this up. I saw Danzig on the tour before and the one after this show and he played no Misfits songs. Does anyone know how unusual this is....He didn't really seem very into it when he introduced the song but obviously the crowd went fucking nuts. I'm a Misfits fan and I belive in the punk ideology that seems to be getting lost. I do hope this "new Misfits" stuff is respectful of the past. If those of you who crave the Misfits (the way you know them from old recordings and pictures) want them back....the best place to look is Glen Danzig. Some may think his current format is Cock-Rock Heavy Metal but he is the Misfits...like it or not. I think we all know that inside. I am looking forward to checking out the "new Misfits". This just had to be said. ------------------------------ From: Bruce Lee Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:31:20 -5 Subject: Ouch! My Tongue Records. Fiends, Ouch! My Tongue Records is open and ready for business, and we need YOUR BAND... Ouch! My Tongue (home of the now-famous Ninjas) has a strict "We sign anyone" policy... this means even YOUR lame-ass band has a chance to hack it in the industry. We were started in 1993, but due to a lack of funds, we've been on a short hiatus for the past 6 months, but we're back and we're ready to sign some more bands... we cover everything from record production, to manufacturing, distribution, to radio play, even those cool white letters printed on the cassettes... we're totally DIY, totally indie, and totally dishwasher safe! Visit our web site at: http://www.evansville.net/~loser and see what we have to offer, what do you have to lose? NOTHING! C'mon... you know you want to. Keith from DEVILOCK... if you're still around, I'm real interested in getting a tape of your stuff put out... we've gotten even better since we produced the Ninjas demo, so if you liked that... just get ahold of one of us. Thanks guys... Mark Nance (mnance@marsh.vinu.edu) Aaron Tanner (loser@evansville.net) ----------------------------------------------------------- "A wise man once said, you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't get a better deal on chicken than our 8-piece special." Visit the Ouch! My Tongue homepage (home of the Ninjas): http://www.evansville.net/~loser/ Mark Nance- mnance@marsh.vinu.edu ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:14:28 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #163 Again, anyone who I already haven't sopken to, who is going to the CT and RI shows, please e-mail me.. I am selling, Glenn Danzig "Who kIlled Marylin?" 7" boot, please email me an offer later goat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:59:06 -0700 (MST) From: Benjamin J Todd Subject: White Devil Rise Hello Fiends, I'm kinda new at this so please forgive me if I break any type of protocol. I wasn't sure if this question would be on the FAQ shit, and I don't really know how to get on the web, so here's my question: When the hell is Danzig gonna release that song I've heard so much about, "White Devil Rise"? I know this is the Misfits Bible, but hey, I've seen Samhain and Danzig posts before... Also, if there are any Fiends out there who go to the U of A(Z), e-mail me. It's lonely out here on the Arizona plain... Thanks to the dude who posted about changing your personal name on pine, I didn't know how to do that. Born Guilty, Ben Todd ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 21:06:20 -0700 From: NaTe Subject: DISCRIMANATION BECAUSE OF AGE!!!!!! OKAY FIENDS.......i hate to say it, but i hate some of you right now. i am 14 years old as most of you know and i have not once been able to talk to anyone except jaid and ghould on irc. it is all because i am younger. listen, i may not be as knowledgable of the 'fits as you are and thhat isbecasue i hvent been around for 154262362 years but i like them as much as you do so lay off k. so evryone should be treated equally on irc....that is all i hafta say bout that. another thing......umm nevrmind i forgot. te he > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 01:18:39 -0600 From: Christian Hunter McClain Subject: Life Without A Net; the other Fiend Club Hell-o Fiends! I haven't contributed to the bible in over a year, (when I had -yuck- AOL) but I figured I had a few new things to add. Glenn's Verotika comics have helped get interested in comic books again. I used to be a big collector, but I eventually grew out of the silly spandex superheros. I'm glad to see that there's some quality adult material out there. Speaking of comics, does anyone else buy the Evil Ernie/Lady Death stuff? If you do, you may have noticed that Chaos comics calls their fan club the "Fiend Club". Uh oh! I smell a lawsuit! It's too bad, 'cause I think the Evil Ernie series fits right in with some of the Misfits themes- legions of undead overtaking the country and so forth. I've seen a few questions about the new Danzig bootleg "Life Without A Net." My local bootleg store had it on it's new release list as a collection of studio demos and outtakes. I checked in alt.music.danzig to see if anyone had heard of it, and one person gave it a glowing reccomendation, so I'm going to have this place order me a copy this weekend, meaning I should have it within a couple of weeks. If nobody else has written to the bible about it, I'll write up a detailed review when I get it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Newsgroups: alt.music.danzig Subject: Great DANZIG Bootleg - anyone want a WAV from it? Date: 4 Apr 1996 13:19:09 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: lamoody@aol.com (LA Moody) I just picked up a great Danzig Bootleg album - "Life Without a Net" from Japan by PLANET records(?) (gay name, cool album) It's far from the usual bootleg (ie it's not all live shit) It contains 17 tracks, 10 of which are...get this: DEMOS from 1986-1987, featuring.... 1. Twist of Cain - very cool! -sounds slower, heavier, and the chorus is different, suttle lyric changes (from his TEMPLE to the ground, ex.) 2. Am I Demon - slower again, and the lyrics are totally different (GOD this... GOD that...) very misfits-y. (in fact, his voice sounds more like his older Misfits Voice than the Danzig albums, not better, just younger, different) 3. Possession - very similar, especially compared to the first two, chorus chords are different 4. Mortal Sin - sounds just like "When Death Had No Name", lyrics are a little different - excellent! 5. I'm Evil - Sounds like "Trouble!" - wait, it is Trouble! From 1986????? Maybe Danzig ran out of ideas on Thrall? Or maybe he thought it was just such a cool song... 6. Soul of Fire - it's an ultra heavy "Soul on Fire" but arranged totally differently - all these pre-Rick Rubin versions sound somewhat cooler than the originals....damn! Maybe Rick should of left them alone! 7. Die for the Demon (!) - What the hell? A very cool song..I can't finger out any lyrics, but the song sounds like an unreleased song.. as well as... 8. I'm Evil (2nd version with organ, weird!), 9. I'm Evil (3rd version) and 10. Chaos (?) Plus live tracks from A 1992 live European tour - Snakes of Christ, Dirty Black Summer, Mother, Do You Wear the Mark, She Rides, Her BLack Wings, Pain in the World. - Although there's no list of the band members, it's got to be chuck and john at least, the guitar and drums sound like them, that's for damn sure! (How about it Eerie, any comment?) Finally... IF FELLOW HARDCORE DANZIG FANS WANT A .WAV FILE OF THE DIFFERENT "TWIST OF CAIN" -E_MAIL ME DIRECTLY - I'LL MAIL IT OUT ALL AT ONCE TO EVERYONE. (I'M on AOL). Sincerely, Larry Moody ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:38:22 +0100 From: KEATINGD (Tel 0793 413244) Subject: Any chance of helping me out ? ****** URGENT MESSAGE FOR JULIAN (JUBOY) VISITING U.S.A - Larry wants you to call ASAP for some interesting news - It may make your day .................. Dan ***************** Regards Dan K - Swindon (Which means Pigtown), England. Return of the Fly, Return of the Fly - With Vincent Price. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:47:10 From: Bobby Steele Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #163 > >Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:28:22 -0400 (EDT) >From: "William P. Musso" >Subject: shirts, record collectors, rock stars & punk rock > > Bobby, you said something a few issues back about someone who >accused you of having a rock star attitude. Well, I wish it weren't true >but I would have to agree with her. I've got Never Say Die and Act Your >Rage and I really like them. But I doubt I will get any more stuff by >the Undead now that I know about you and your manager's major label and >MTV aspirations. I disagree with you. Punk Rock is not about a poor >boy's way to get off the streets and become rich and famous. That's rap! >Punk is about EATING the rich and famous. It's about being against the >status quo, not becoming part of it! And it's about the members of the >bands being no more important than any of the people who love their music. Yes William. You're right. Musicians are only put on the earth for your pleasure and should never benefit for their risk and effort. I get the feeling that you actually buy the whole MRR scam. Ask Dave Vanian. Ask Johnny Rotten. Ask any of the original Punk bands. None of them are gonna say "yeah I got into it so I could starve for the rest of my life. Ask Chuck Berry, Little Richard...THE BEATLES. Since the beginning of Rockn'roll - this has been a means for 'poor boys' to get out of the ghetto. Not just rap. It's just that the rap artists didn't buy the idealistic bullshit that's force fed to us by people who don't want to see us get out of this hole. Punk is about EATING the rich and famous? No. ANARCHY IN THE U.K. was about overthrowing the 'entertainment elite' at a time when bands like the STONES, BOSTON,LED ZEPPELIN...had such a stranglehold on the music biz that it was virtually impossible for any new bands to break into the biz. I hate to burst your bubble, but you can defy the status quo and still succeed. It takes a lot more effort. I have defied that status quo. My career would be a lot better if I had chosen to 'schmooze' with all the other rocksttars out there. Sorry, but if I don't like 'em, I'm not gonna kiss their asses. If I get signed to a major label (which is a longshot), such as WARNER BROS (which the FITS are on), it'll be because they agreed to let me do what I want to do, not because I gave in and started to play what they wanted me to play. I wish I knew which bands you liked. Then I could tell you more about what I know about their aspirations. If you think they're not into it for the money, I got a bridge I can sell ya. And just to prove I'm not a GREEDY ROCK STAR - I'll let you have it cheap. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:54:24 -0400 From: Corey Chapman Hello Fiends, Anybody interested in Bobby Steele's other band, Times Square, should check out their website at: http://www.con2.com/t-square.html ------------------------------ From: parksr@brunswickmicro.nb.ca Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:42:14 -0300 I would like to make a suggestion for the bible shirt. Have Jerry attacking adolf hitler while he tries to burn the misfits bible. Oh i have a stupid story. Me and my friend "squigs" we live in a fairly big ultra conservative canadian city where punk rock and being an individual is frowned upon. There are two groups of punks in the city me and my friends who are into all hardcore, but love the misfits above all else. And a group of guys with red hair and nofx shirts who have older brothers who are sometimes cool, and think they are big shit because of them. Well back to the story. Me and my forementioned friend had mohawks which our parents made us shave off (us only being seventeen and needing a place to live) our 'hawks. We are totally anti nazi. and we have been getting called nazis by red necks and native students when two of the guys in our group are cuban and black, we also have (besides our homemade misfits patches) we have a insignia that says nazis eat shit and die. Well you probably don't give a fuck but i just thought i was ironic and kinda funny. Static Boy ------------------------------ Subject: jiggety jack juice Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 14:34:12 EDT From: Blood Feast hey mark the zine "juice" you mentioned DOES exist, and the interview with Jerry is in the current issue. the guitar player in my band actually writes for juice, and at band practice tomorrow he is going to give me a copy of it, and I will post the address and even the interview if I have time in the next bible. I hear it's a really good interview, though. to Psycho Billy--- ROCK ON!!!! thank god you posted that!!! I was really beginning to worry that I was the only person on this thing that thinks heavy metal and arena rock sucks! Listen to what we're saying people! do you think the video of the Dearborn cable show would've been nearly as good if it had been some huge arena with a bunch of fucking dorks in combat boots with leather jackets and long hair all shakin their fists and headbangin and making it into the ozzy show that I know this new tour is gonna become? I mean, it seems like nobody on this entire list thinks it's completely ludicrous for the misfits to charge ten dollars for a four song seven inch? and don't give me this shit about "they gotta make it on their own cuz they're puting out their own records and booking their own tours", because I don't know what cave you've been living in for the past ten years, but that's the way it's ALWAYS done. My band went on five U.S. tours and put out two seven inches and a C.D. and we charged TWO dollars at shows for our record and FIVE dollars for our cd, and the prices were only raised a dollar through the mail, and we printed our own t-shirts, three colors on haynes beefy-t high quality 100% cotton and sold them for FIVE dollars not fifteen, and when we went on tour our shows were FIVE dollars to get in not twelve. And I'm not trying to say I'm some kinda DIY pioneer, either, My band was just doing what EVERY OTHER punk band has done since about 1987!!!! All I hear you guys bitch about is how "it's so good that the misfits are coming back to save punk rock from green day and rancid" will you fucking look around!!? there are a MILLION more bands that really are punk and not on corporate major labels. Whew! that felt good. okay, now I'm ready for the constant stream of flames and kicks off irc from everyone, go ahead. But if anyone is actually interested and would like to know about some real punk bands or want to know how to book a tour or put out a record I'll be glad to help, just email me. hugs and kisses, Bloodfeast ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:57:15 -0700 (PDT) From: PRH Subject: a little compassion for Wes, OK? hello fiends and the Gimp,too, if he is awake: i am overcome with sympathy for poor Wes Thomas. I think it is great, too that he has finally decided to seek professional help for his problem. Wes: impotence is NOT a deathsentence! there is no need to feel like your world is coming (pardon the expression)to an end, just because of of your inability to perform sexually, or to achieve a satisfying erection. There are many different options for a man like yourself who suffers from this humiliating and stressful condition. First, it is important that you consult a urologist that you can be completely honest with, and I will be happy to supply you -- confidentially, of course--with several names of excellent physicians in your area. There are several different causes of impotence, and some are as simple as a psychological problem, which judging by your hostility towards attractive, unavailable women seems to be definitely a possibility. Other symptoms of organic impotence with psychosomatic basis are sexual bragadoccio, anger and hatred towards people who seem to be enjoying healthy sexual relations. Some of the treatments available include medication which you give yourself in the privacy of your home(the so-called "injection erection") or a vacuum pump, which many men who feel ill at the sight of needles prefer. Once you decide on a course of treatment, I feel sure that your anxiety and distress will begin to dissipate, and you can begin to enjoy life again! Again, as a medical professional, you may be assured that my confidentiality is guaranteed. Thank you for seeking a referral from me. I will forward your records to whichever physician you decide upon. Sincerely, Dr. Nearwidow Nearwidow Medical Consultants, INC. ps...have a good weekend everyone, i will have a story for you on Monday! dont forget to send for Keith138's fanzine ANGRYRED. email him at keith138@aol.com for details. ;) nrwidow@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Danzig4192@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:09:43 -0400 Subject: Angelfuck Read This! My response to your email gets bounced back to me so here is the info you requested. The show is at the Middle East in Cambridge, MA May 5th and their phone numbers are 6174970576 and 6173548328. Good luck! Andy ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:09:57 -0400 Subject: Noss Keith, It's out. Man, it's been sitting on my desk for a while now and every time I'm about to send it out, something catches my eye (something a little Napalm Death), and I just lose it. Sorry about that. By the time you get this, you should have it. Chris ------------------------------ From: "shifter" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:41:39 -0800 Subject: Re: Crimson Ghost This is Crimson Ghosts reply to me for who ever asked about what other bands ppl. on the list like, well i've got some strange new for you......i like King's X ok..everyone stop laffing, choking or thinking who in the hell is that as far as horror and/or punk bands goes i like Phantasm, 45 grave, new math (everyone run down to your local used record store and find the vinyl by this band..i dought you'll pay more that a couple of bucks for their albums), elvis hitler, the cramps, the damned, and a buncho of goth and punk stuff i won't get into. E.P. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:11:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Fama Subject: Bible 163 > From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr > C.G. call me stupid but i missed the correlation to prince namor > and the misfits, and its really bugging me... what's the relationship? well CG, the question was put to you, but allow me: Prince Namor is the Sub-Mariner of Marvel Comics. The correlation is pretty simple. Glenn said in an interview recently that he always liked the Sub-Mariner. Listen to the words to "TV Casualty" if you don't believe him. > From: Army of Nostradamus > Subject: Glenny-boy's lyrics > Misfits lyrics are great precisely because they ARE stupid. If you > can't understand that, there's no point explaining it. You see, Glenn I would personally say "clever" instead of "stupid", but I know what you mean. > him sing about his astro-zombies raping the land than "I'm so dark, I'm > so evil, mother keep your kids away from me because I am one bad > motherfucker, I'm all messed up inside." now with this, I disagree. DOES ANYONE ELSE EVER NOTICE THAT PEOPLE MOCKING DANZIG LYRICS HAVE TO CHANGE THE WORDS SO MUCH TO MAKE THEIR POINT? > and when you make fun of Misfits lyrics you are really making fun of us > as people who LIKE them. no, when you make fun of Misfits lyrics, you are making fun of Misfits lyrics, and *possibly* the person who wrote them. Anyway, I don't recall *anyone* making fun of Misfits lyrics. Someone (Bile666, I think?? and Mark) had a theory that *****Glenn**** didn't like his old lyrics, and so refused to help put the correct ones on the box set. I said that wouldn't make sense, because why would he want to be credited for the wrong words, which are porbably worse than the real ones? I didn't say anything was wrong with the real lyrics; I was merely suggesting that the theory posited wouldn't make sense, regardless of what Glenn thought of his own lyrics. MY opinion of the lyrics never entered into the situation, nor I think, did anyone else's but your own. Okay, enough time wasted on this...pleas READ CAREFULLY people. The above explanation of my original post is about three times longer than the original post itself. > From: Tarry Carapezza > Subject: Philly show HEY LIAM! If you're reading this off the internet, take a look at the subject header above. "Philly" HA HA HA HA! (inside joke). Hurry up and subscribe. > From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu > Dear Brett, > Since when are flaming, useless, little > girls not allowed in the Bible? never said they weren't allowed. Just that they weren't appreciated. > Wes"Hitler had a German Shepard named Blondie"Thomas yes, Hitler had a German Shepherd. Which was used to test the poison before it was used on himself and Eva Braun. > From: Mike > Subject: 4p medallion > did anyone out there in danzigland manage to snag a 4p medallion off of > email me if you can spare it. uhh, anyone who has another 4p medallion they can spare, e-mail me too. > From: "Dorin M. Petre" > Subject: skinheads > fama, > what's wrong with skinheads? if you're simply referring to people with shaven heads, obviously nothing is wrong with them. > SHARPs are cool (SHARP=skinheads against racial prejudice) > it's just that skinheads are always associated with nazis... it's > the goddam media's fault. Trust me, I've heard of SHARPs, and these guys weren't. Unless of course they burn large swastikas and crucifixes and give Seig Heil every 30 seconds. Just a note for those of you who are into this kind of thing: ever wonder how many "red-necks" and members of the Klan actually speak German or have any german descent? Or what would happen to them if they were around in Germany in the 1930s, with all their tattoos and piercings? Any SS guard would have beat the living crap out of them and thrown them in the camps too. I wonder how many "Heil Hitlers" they'd give then. > From: Teevie > Subject: Porno Porno Porno! > Anybody know what X-rated flicks John Christ did the music for? What with Eerie said one's called "Sex Freaks." -Brett ------------------------------ From: Gouge3@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:53:42 -0400 Subject: Mommy, can I respond tonight? Just a few comments/responses to the last Bible: tess777 - No doubt about it, Glenn is a nice guy. Of all the celebrities I've met, he is one of the nicest. Rikki was always a putz. I'm surprised the Headbanger's Ball kept him so long. He NEVER knew how to interview Glenn at all (or anyone else for that matter). Lord Kenatos - Don't believe all you hear about the KISS reunion. Like Bobby Steele said in his sign off, "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" (or something like that). They can't charge that much. Only 1000 people in Chicago (the largest showing less the New York appearance) paid $100 to see them on the KISS convention tour which was one of the greatest experiences of my life. I guess we'll wait and see, eh? So, yes, we should all be happy at the Misfits tour prices (even if Glenn isn't on stage). William P. Musso - What gives with the KISS (and other groups) bash? FYI - without KISS, this Bible never would have been formed in the first place. Mark and I met up and started this thing in 1994 after meeting on a KISS mailing list. Ask Mark if you don't believe me. So don't claim that us fans will ruin the Bible - without us, you wouldn't even be here! And as for long sleeve shirts - those of us in the freezing fucking Midwest who are layered in clothing at least 5 or 6 months a year would love long sleeves. Any Midwestern Fiend comments? (BTW - Stryper kicked ass). Thank you all for letting Gouge come ripping. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:10:34 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Bit's for the bible Another Bible issue another day, well it's Friday which means another bible issue and someone else will be pissed off because of something that was said. 1) to Jess - the Prince Namor ref. that was made was Glenn's interest and love of comic books, he has always mentioned how much he likes Prince Namor, Wolverine, Devilman, Astro Boy, and a ton of others. If you have ever seen the Thrasher issue June 1986, it has pictures from his room with all his toys, posters and the model from the 1970's version of Devilman. 2) To Aon - the thing about Glenn and the lyrics was someones opinion, Until Glenn comes out and gives a reason why he did not help on it no one knows. Maybe he's busy with his own shit like Danzig 5, or the Samhain Boxset that is supposed to be coming out. I see it this way, if he didn't want anything to do with his past he would not even bother to sign Misfits records or even talk about his past at all. Yet that has not happened and i doubt it ever will. 3) To Wes, What the fuck is wrong with you, the guy who everyone is pissed at now takes a shot at Pat who you are not even in the same league body at least she was there with Glenn, Jerry, Bobby and the rest. Plus that comment about all girls into the Misfits, I think you need to get a life, cause you do not belong here. You also need some form of mental help; the shit coming out of your mouth doesn't even make sence. You should find a place for where all the braindead go!?! 4) William P. Musso - there is nothing wrong with long sleeves, and as for the summer, i live in Miami and it was in the 60 tonight, if it wasn't for the fact i was wearing my long sleeve Danzig shirt i would have froze out there. Oh and the crap about Bobby, i guess you would be happy if he was poor for the rest of his life. I thought the point to making music was that everyone could have a chance to hear you, though i never was one of those morons who would not listen to a band because they got signed to a major label. You probably think Glenn sold out too! You know Glenn even tried to get his art into Marvel Comics while he was in the Misfits, but he was turned down, I guess you should be pissed at him for that, what a terrible thing for him to do. Shit, i hope you don't buy his comics now, he was one of first for his comic book company to go complete computer coloring. Oh, by the way are you going to aspire to be nothing and a poor person living on the streets!?! Also the comment about record collectors not being punk rock, well let see, I've been listening to punk and hardcore for 13 -14 years now, i have one of the best collections of that type of music and my Misfits collection is one you could die for. And until you know about the collectors and sellers in these circles you really shouldn't talk, the prices are what they are, and the buyers are not all from this country. Most of the pieces are sold over seas, especially to Japan. Plus that is bullshit about this having an effect on the scene. The scene is being destroyed for other reasons. If you had a Cough/Cool you would not be playing it all the time or tossing it around like a frisbee. Then again i guess you do not have a Cough/Cool. well that's all kiddies!?! TES777 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:11:24 -0600 From: Opus Subject: shirt Hello fellow fiends... I recently submitted an idea for the shirt. To let you all know, it is far from a final draft. It is just an idea for the front, like near the left shoulder. Looking at the other ideas, I also like the Misfits logo on one sleeve and Bible on the other. I also like the idea of having the members addresses on the back, that keeps the shirt specific to the bible. If any of you have ideas or commments/criticism, let me know: mc458550@lance.colostate.edu Thanx... michael ------------http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit/-------------------------- "Demon I am and face I peel To see your skin turned inside out" -misfits X X XX X X XX X XXX XX XX XXX X XX XXX XXX XXX XXX XX XXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXX XXXX XXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XXXXXX XX XXXXXXX X XXXX XX XX XXXX X XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX X X X XXXXX XX X X X X X XXX X X X X X X ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:36:28 -0400 From: Zoltar Subject: Update 4/12/96 Well fiends, The Misfits are back in town and have been now for more than a week. I finally got a chance to talk to them last night. Here's the summary: EUROPE TOUR ~~~~~~~~~~~ The tour was great. They loved Europe and were pleased with the turnout. Their best shows were the ones in Spain for whatever reason. Rocky gave a special hello to their new f(r)iend who looks like Lenin. US TOUR ~~~~~~~ The band is preparing for the US tour which should be kicking off with no problems. They are also working on a tentative Northern US tour to start in late June hopefully hitting the following places in this approximate order: Syracuse/Albany, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Denver, Kansas City, St. Louis, Cincinnati, and Baltimore, again with Sardonica opening. The East coast tour will not feature DOA - they have been replaced by Sheer Terror as mentioned before. Later in the summer the band will tour to the other parts of the US. This is all I know about the tour at this point. ALL. That's ALL I know. I don't know anything else. I promise that there is nothing else to know about the tour. All current details about the tour are available above. There is no other tour information. Get the point? BLACKLIGHT 7" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ After the East Coast tour, the band will head into the studio (studio time has already been booked) to record material for the Blacklight 7". The following songs will be recorded: "Blacklight" "The Haunting" "Mars Attacks" "The Hunger" "Dead Kings Rise" and "Dr. Phibes Rises Again". MISFITS BIBLE SHIRTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ They fully support the idea. We (the mailing list) must all agree on one design for the mailing list that will be our official shirt. Rocky (manager) requests that the design be original and new and not use any old artwork from previous releases. Remember that most of the old artwork was done by Glenn... I will send him the final design we all agree on and The Misfits will get the shirts made to sell to internet Fiends only. We'll set up some way to order the shirts and a price and that's that. There are 750 of us on the mailing list and in order for this to work it would be best if a LOT of us were going to actually purchase this shirt. If there are only 100 or so who are going to want this shirt, it would probably be more intelligent to put this project off for a while... Bootleg shirts made by Bible subscribers can/will not be tolerated. This must be done by The Misfits themselves. So let's come up with something soon... Oh yeah, it's okay to use the logo in the design... OTHER STUFF ~~~~~~~~~~~ Some of you have expressed interest in having Misfits/Crimson Ghost silkscreens available for sale. The Misfits will not be doing this. "Animal Room" - has anyone heard of this movie? Back in November The Misfits gave this movie a hand by doing some guest appearances. Michale even had a few lines. There's no word yet on whether or not this movie will ever come out, or what it's permanent title will be. For the guitar person out there, Doyle did in fact play the Paul Stanley Ibanez Iceman - email me for more specifics. PUNK ROCK! ~~~~~~~~~~ Rocky and I talked about the many who fiends who like to complain about The Misfits selling out or charging too much money or not living up to the 'punk rock' way of life. Here's what he had to say about that: "The Misfits are not punk rock. The Misfits are not hardcore. The Misfits are not heavy metal. The Misfits are not alternative. The Misfits are what The Misfits are. If you like them, then great. If you don't like them, that's great too... and that's all. In the old days The Misfits played to punk rock audiences because those were the only audiences that were available back then." Okay everybody? Please read that over and over again before complaining. This is almost 100% what I would have expected to hear from those guys. Jerry says it often during radio interviews. The Misfits appeal to all sorts of audiences and that's that. They belong to no distinct group. I wonder how many 'punks' out there will unsubscribe now... I'm sure there were other bits and pieces that I've forgotten... I hope to have more information soon... mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Misfit shirts and other shit comics substance underground ahh like how does that theme thing work? Boom Boom boston show lots o' stuff Alan Wright Danzig lips ugh... Earth AD CD. Angry Red Fanzine #2 Times Square FUCK THIS bible t-shirts...basically they suck! the misfits 'n me Quick Question what i got to do and need to know... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:07:47 -0600 From: Christian Hunter McClain Here's something else I wanted to add, regarding the non-misfits tracks on C2. My guess is that these are probably Glenn's solo demos for some of the songs. I know that one guy has told Mark that he was there at the recording of Waltz and it was Samhain that did it, but it could also be possible that there was another version recorded with Samhain and this is what the guy was thinking of. Even though Jerry and the other guys didn't play on these tracks, I'm sure that if Glenn wrote and recorded these on his own durning his Misfits days, he'd probably look at them as Misfits songs. I for one am glad that they were included on C2 (although on the box set they would have been more appropriate on the sessions disc) no matter who is playing on them. I love to hear all of those alternate takes. The only thing I think really should have been done is some detailed liner note needed to be included in C2 explaining these tracks, such as when and why Cough/Cool was remixed and rerecorded (I do like the new version), if it was special for this compilation, or if it was done a few years ago but just never released or what. And for those other non-misfits tracks, where and when they were recorded, who is playing on them- if it's all Glenn or what. And since that non-misfits stuff was on there anyway, why didn't he put the single versions of Who Killed Marilyn and Spook City USA? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:13:56 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Okay, a couple more things... Nate: I didn't descriminate against you 'cause of I age, I thought, like a lot of us, that somebody else would answer your question. From what I've seen of this bible group, it's a pretty close-nit group with a couple black sheep. I'm sorry, I forgot you're question. You can ask me via e-mail if ya want. It's been a long night....:) THis is a general statement I just feel I need to get out. My friend is on the Rancid mailing list, it's all these people saying fuck and dude every couple words, a shitload of flaming, and 90% of the talk is about what's "hardcore". They've lost complete touch with the music and my friend actually regrets signing up! I see some of that shit here. I feel it's better to ignore what's not worth reading, or at least keep any complaints quiet, and to have rational discussions over relavent topics. There is something called the first amendment (though the prez and the 2nd lady seem to be totally against it), you can post what you want. I'd just like to make the point that what is posted is a reflection on us as a whole. I just would like everybody to keep that thought in mind and keep an open mind. Misfits are the only band that I'm willing to call myself a true fan of. Obviously there was a chemistry to the whole misfits thing that made them worth listening to. I feel that Jerry and the boys went to a lot of trouble to get things up and running, so I'm going to give them a listen. I'm going to keep an open mind about them untill I hear them. Notice that, "hear them". I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not worried about the image, I'm not into how hardcore they'll be, I'm interested in taking the music for a test drive. Sorry for wasting so much bible space, I hope you guys can see this as some constructive advice and not as targeting particular people. I find this webpage an enjoyable read and a forum for ideas. I have also seen a certain amount of intelligence in most of the posts, keep it that way. Eric HorrorKid ....missed valuable minutes of Day of the Triffids, to write this...... .......so make it worth it. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 06:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: prince namor, satanika and you... hey your all right, i never knew that was what he was saying in tv casualty, i guess thats why they put a lyrics book in the box set, i didn't even know the lyrics were in alphabetical order till i looked at them again, heh heh. oh well thanks. i got the new satanika graphic novel yesterday, which is a reprinting of the 1st 3 issues of satanika. on the intro page there is a cartoon picture of glenn which is pretty amusing. it also sez that there will be a satanika animated video out sometime soon. there are also some copies of sketches glenn made of the original verotik characters. there are tons of misfits/danzig refrences in the book, so if you have it, or the original series, look closely and see how many you can find :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 06:37:25 -0400 From: Corey Chapman Subject: Times Square Website > Hello Fiends, > Anybody interested in Bobby Steele's other band, Times Square, should check > out their website at: > http://www.con2.com/t-square.html Oops, the website is actually on: http://www.con2.com/~elaphe/t-square.html Sorry about that, everybody. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:43:41 +0000 From: dieter zandor Subject: .Bible shirt , #misfits. Thanks alot Larry Moody, now I think Ill order "Life w/out a net" It sounds great,"Die for the Demon" WHHHHOOOOOAAAAA!!!! Mark, about the bible t-shirt,I would like to have one,but the price of shipping to Sweden isnt cheap, so the price of the it all together cant be to expensive,what do ya think the shirt itself would cost(approximately)? Crimson Ghost, I cant get on #Misfits, you see Im in a library and Im not that bright with computers,so please if theres a way to get me on post it in the next bible,thanx. Ohh,Im in the twilight world tonight, And I obey the moon, Im in the twilight world tonight, the Mist will dance and the Elves will sing their croon. -Edge of Sanity bye... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 08:54:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Baileys" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 What is the difference punk rock and rock. The original punk bands came out of the beach music. this differs slightly to what the sex pistols, misfits and t he other more violent bands turned it into. The difference between punk rock a nd rock and roll is a very thin line. Hard core punk (eg misfits) is merely a strain of heavy metal, which by the way is rock and roll. Musically there is l ittle difference between the ramones and a million rock bands out there, they j ust prefer to keep their music simpler. And what you classify as punk someone else may not. One article that i read placed alice cooper as a punk artist, i view him as pure rock and roll, but to someone out there he is a punk singer. remember classification is merely in the eyes of the beholder. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:34:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Baileys" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 hey kid there are plenty of reasons that people don't want to talk to a 14 year old. First they don't want to get into trouble with the internet police. Hat e to be paranoid but we have to protect our ass. Second is that we don't reall y relate to you, I don't even remeber what it was like to be 14. We have lived longer than you and what we have experienced a lot more than you. being 14 tha t means you were born in 1982, I remeber 1982 that year pretty well sucked. Ig if you have anything valuable to say then we may listen, just learn how to writ e,i don't know what to think about that horrible mess that you left last time. "Went to bed too late and got up too soon, my heads still spinning from too muc booze" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:39:16 -0700 From: Ratan Subject: Box-set Hello everyone. This is my first message to this bible. I wonder if the first 50,000 copies of the Box-Set are sold yet. And how do you know if you've got one of theese? /// Ratan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Baileys" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 hey hunter, if you are looking for some really good adult oriented comics check out the grendel series that was released by comico in the '80's. great stuff and very violent. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:40:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Baileys" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 Hey bobby i can think of one artist who i don't think was in it for the Money, GG Allin. I don't know what he was in it for, did the misfits ever do any show s with him? anybody know? any sick twisted people who like GG feel free to e- mail me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:50:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Baileys" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 As for the glenn/misfits thing the person who said there would be no misfits if there was no glenn Danzig. This is very true, but on the flip side if there w as no misfits there would have never been a glenn Danzig. Just like ozzy said, If it wasn't for black sabbath Ozzy osbourne would never have existed, but if there wasn't an ozzy osbourne black sabbath would have never existed. I am pre tty certain that other members of the band helped to influence and shape Glenn Danzig both musically and personally during his time with the misfits. This sh aping helped to create what he is today. He got lucky with the misfits, this h elped to break him into the music scene, he may have made without them, but the n again, show biz is all about chance and luck. I know some people are going t o disagree with me, but luck plays more of a factor than even talent. There ar e a lot of really good bands out there who just haven't been lucky, and a lot o f shitty bands who have (anybody remeber Air supply). I honestly don't think t hat Danzig sprang full grown without the influence of other people throughout h is career. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:13:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Asselin Subject: Glenn vs interpreted lyrics >From: Brett Fama >*anyone* making fun of Misfits lyrics. Someone (Bile666, I think?? and Mark) >had a theory that *****Glenn**** didn't like his old lyrics, and so >refused to help put the correct ones on the box set. I said that wouldn't >make sense, because why would he want to be credited for the wrong words, >which are porbably worse than the real ones? I wanted to send this private mail, but your post didn't have your e-mail address, so I've got to reply to the bible. I was the one who originally brought up this thread. My thought was that most people who think the lyrics are silly will go on thinking that, but if someone APPROACHES Glenn and says "Hey Glenn, your Misfits lyrics are dumb", he can legitimately say "Those aren't my lyrics, they fucked them all up". It's just a way for him to save face when confronted with it. It's certainly easier than explaining to idiot fanboy #652 how he was a lot younger then, how lyrics maybe weren't as important as melody, etc. etc. Again, this is just a theory, and not a knock on Glenn. Personally I think it's legit only because I'd do the same damn thing. - Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 11:42:41 EDT From: Ken Graf Subject: AGE DISCRIMINATION??? WHO ARE YOU? hey fiends, This post is to someone named Nate (I don't know anything else) who was complaining about being discriminated on IRC because of his age. First of all, if you have a complaint, at least let everyone know who the hell you are so they can evaluate weather or not your complaint is justified. Also, I don't know who you are, but I'm guessing Rattfink#2/tvcasualty/ramone? Sorry if I'm wrong about that. Anyway, I am very friendly to everyone and anyone initially who comes on the channel. Then, if they act like a prick, I might act like a prick back to them. Granted, we do have some ball busters there, but none of it is based on age. I still get my balls busted, being kicked if I'm acting like a dork, everyone does! Look what poor cybrpunk had to go through to finally be accepted! I am 19 years old, and perhaps if I've had too much sugar I may act like I'm 16. (once in a while) And if I'm bein an idiot, I'm called on it, then I chill out and revert to the state of mind of a 19 year old. (I don't know if that's much better) All said and done, just be cool and don't get too exited about anything someone says. OK i'm done now. --Lord Kenatos ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:13:55 +1100 Subject: Headless corpses(not really) Hello all Just your good ole pal the Warhammer here. Just had to respond you know put in my two cents again. Sean-Agreeably Glenn is the misfits in one manner but he is also Samhain and Danzig and these are projects that are not really relateded to Misfits FOr your info I consider Danzig my fav. band but as is obvious I love the misfits as well. I too look forward to new Misfits. Larry Moody- thanks for the tip I believe that I found my next bootleg purchase. To William- Bobby knows what he is doing. The man will never sell out. People need to Eat my friend and to eat you need money and in the biz the real money is with major labells. As Bobby said no one in punk ever said lets be broke and starve. If Bobby get signed Good He fukin rules abd anything he puts out I intend to buy Regard less of the label. If he signs to to the biggest releaser of new wave bullshit I intend to buy because it will be What Bobby wants and he will not let the company tell him what to do with his music. If you believ that signing is a sign of selling out then you probably lost all respect for Glenn years ago even though Danzig is probably the greatest Musical genius out there Shit I love Glenn any glenn whether it be Misfits Samhain Danzig or even another Black Aria I will always stay loyal to my music. I love Music and don't give a shit about what record company released it. Bloodfeast-Heavey metal does not suck and some of the best shows I have seen are arena shows. I have no problem with hearing others opinions but just generalizing is narrowminded you could say "I don't like metal" or something to that measure. Question" Are you saying that The misfits suck because they are doing arena shows if so pal you are in for the torching of your life. As I said Earliar Who gives a shit where they play as long as they play Misfits stuff. I intend to see them regardless of where they play. Patricia(Dr.) YOu rule baby I bow at your feet Wes- I notice in earliar issues you flamed my Goddess(Patricia) bad WEs bad bad wes I would recommend a spanking but you would enjoy that to much and I have a question Do you even like the Misfits? If So then why don;t you spend your time and our time talking about them Afterall this is the Misfits page not Flame City U.S.A. Alright I am done As always anyone who wants to may Email me and I guarentee a response Fiendishly yours The Warhammer "If I have it takes a hundred years I will see it. I WON'T DIE!!!!!!" -Amano Jacuo- Urotsukidoji. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 12:27:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Corch Subject: Misfits being taken for granted Im starting to get sick of some of the posts that have been appearing on here that state that the Misfits are selling out and shit like that. Think about what this band is doing for us, the fans. They are willing for us to even use their logo for our own shirt. How many other bands would let you do that. I feel that too many of us just want the Misfits to be their own little band and don't want them to come back and kick ass again. With or without Glenn the Misfits are going to be strong. They (the Misfits) are very supportive of us and we inturn should give them the same respect. Now I know that guys like Mark and |20eyes| have been doing some cool stuff for us fiends to correlate, but alot of us take that for granted as well, MYSELF INCLUDED. I just think that we should all except the fact that the Misfits are back and that they are going to rule again. Later, Earth A.D. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 12:43:09 -0400 Subject: stuff shifter: right on! eric peterson: i can't believe there is someone else who's heard 45 grave! sorry to say,but how can a person who's not even in the misfits speak for them in that way? i guess i'll let it be known, i'll be signing any misfits records and will be available for interviews. $50 a pop. now, doyle's guitars. he played an iceman, i think a dan armstong lucite guitar, and a les paul. any others? D.EVIL "...all this time you put up with fear..." 100,000 years ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:55:11 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 Hey mark, any news on the armbands? Im hoping this doesn't get put on the back burner. And to Danzig4192, thanks for the info, Im going to try and get tix today for the MA, RI and Conneticut shows. Once I get my tix Ill get in touch. We should all try to meet up. Later Roger ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:55:19 -0500 From: ED > i always thought punk was just the attitude, no matter what you had to say. you could >be punk singing about grape nuts if you're loud,rude and raunchy. it's not >about major labels or whatever. the only reason punk bands generaly aren't on >major labels is because until now nobody wanted to hear them, but their loyal >fans who were few compared to the mainstream. > D.EVIL What is this all about? loud, rude and raunchy is what being "punk" is all about? I dont know where u were informed but whoever told you was full of shit. Being a "punk" used to be about no sticking to the styles of society and sticking out in a crowd, it was about not being ruled by the cheesy governments rules, not anarchy, but jsut not agreeing with what the government has to say, its not about being loud, rude and raunchy as you put it. But however, on the second part, the major labels part, I agree 100% who cares if a band is on a major label? at least the music sounds better(production wise). Well, thats all I have to say, later fiends. HepCat ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 12:02:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: undead tab You know, i still would like to see some Undead music on the Tab page. Nothing fancy, just some chord progresions(A D E) like on the 'fits page. thats all jamil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:14:57 -0400 Subject: #misfits SUCKS!!!!! From: sk8er I was talking in #misfits and all of the sudden this dick head named metalfan kicked me off for no fuckin reason. So I came back the next day to talk and I was on the ban list. What the fuck's up with that. -- sk8er sk8er@usa.pipeline.com (fan mail) sk8er@clearlight.com (business mail) http://www.clearlight.com/~sk8er ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:26:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Fama Subject: BIBLE 164 I AM BRETT. NOT FRANK. > From: Dave Asselin > >"Children in Heat" : > > "wind up running away" [instead of "why I'm running away"] > > listen REALLY close for this one. > I've always thought there was an unpronounced "it's" in this line, so that > the lyrics would read: > Children in heat/you can't control them/it's why I'm running away hmmm that's possible. But I still think it's "wind up"...listen to the remastered one on BOX disc 3. Either way it's not a big deal... > From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu > fall of in the pits) that say "Wes is the coolest Bible member of them all." > Brett is the one who masterminded these ideas and encourages there prodution. you mean "their" production. BTW I have no idea what this guy is talking about, unless he's talking about some other Brett. > From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCONO" > Subject: Lyrics > This one goes out to Frank Fama about his thoughts on the lyrics.... I > agree with you on the Earth A.D. but on Ghouls Night Out I've always heard, > "Human hell of eating flesh." Sound good? yes. It makes more sense (since ghouls eat flesh). What did I say, "bleeding flesh"? Anyway, yours sounds better. BTW I am not Frank. He's my dad. > From: Wolverine > I saw someone asking about Crimson Ghost tattoos, Henry Rollins has one (on > his left arm me thinks) and that one is all black. Rollins has two: the CG head on his right ar (turned sideways as in the "reading book" pic from the EVILIVE cover and back cover of "Misfits"), and the arms crossed pose (ala Horror Business & C2) on his left arm. > From: Benjamin J Todd > Subject: White Devil Rise it was recorded for DANZIG 4p and (probably) re-recorded for release on the upcoming DANZIG V. Glenn said in an interview in Metal Maniacs that they had too many songs for 4p, and White Devil Rise didn't make it because he didn't like the way it sounded, so he had to do more mixing or whatever. Then Chuck, (and later) Eerie and John left, so in all likelihood the one on Danzig V will be completely re-recored. For a while there was to be another Danzig EP last summer, but then EV & JC left. Glenn said WDR "was too important a song to get lost on a B-side", so it probably wouldn't have been on the EP anyway. > From: "shifter" > Subject: Re: Crimson Ghost > This is Crimson Ghosts reply to me whoa whoa whoa. read CG's reply again matt. All he said was to have an open mind. THere's no reason to get all freaked out at him. (I can't wait to see his next reply to you...) > For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web > page before posting, located at: > http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ good advice that few seem to follow. -Brett who but Mark could write this book of cruel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:32:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "William P. Musso" Subject: replies to some comments Bobby, do you believe that all musicians were put on this earth to promote the greed and sheep-like following of Nirvana and Green Day? And since you are so all-knowing about the intentions of every band on the planet, please impart your great wisdom to me about Whorehouse of Representatives, Naked Aggression, Dirt, and Dead Silence. BTW, I'm not interested in buying that bridge, but you might be able to sell it to someone at Lollapalooza if you're going! Bloodfeast, Cool! It,s nice to know there are other people on the bible who understand my point about the music! Tes777, yes, OF COURSE Glenn sold out. And regarding your comments about Bobby, no, I don't want to see him or anyone else be in poverty for the rest of their lives. In fact, my point is quite opposed to that notion. The system that allows that poverty is the very same system that allows only a handful of people to obtain and control all the wealth. Anyone who becomes a part of that elite, whether as a rockstar or CEO, is perpetuating that system. Things need to be more equal so that NONE of us will have to live in poverty! EvilDieff, you're right, songs don't have to be political to be punk. Punk is an attitude, but that attitude DOES NOT INVOLVE being acceptable to the mainstream! --Your Future's in an Oblong Box-- ---Psycho Billy ------------------------------ From: Zoltar Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:21:46 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 14:34:12 EDT > From: Blood Feast > > okay, now I'm ready for the constant stream of flames and kicks > off irc from everyone, go ahead. But if anyone is actually > interested and would like to know about some real punk bands or > want to know how to book a tour or put out a record I'll be > glad to help, just email me. These guys aren't living in their parents' basements or in a small apartment with a bunch of other punks. These are men in their 30s with families. Jerry has 2 kids that must be fed, clothed, and put through school. They all have to make a living. No longer do they work in the Proedge factory for their dad. They quit their factory jobs to do The Misfits full time and if they're going to do it, they have to make sure it's successful for them. So that's it. That's the way their prices are determined. > From: "shifter" > the idea otherwise. But if these guys want change, maybe they should > change the name of the band! Cuz they do not stand for the same > misfits of old. Do you think that Glenn would have entered a band > with only 5 or 6 songs and played all of the bands old songs? I > don't think so! My view is this: THERE WOULD BE NO MISFITS IF IT > THERE WAS NEVER A GLENN DANZIG. The thing is, the guitarists KNOW > IT! So instead of waiting until they can come out with an album OF > THEIR OWN, they go ahead and play old songs that GLENN WROTE. I mean > come on, what is that, that is cheap if you ask me. Hey, I seem to remember posting about this a few issues ago. The Misfits have about 10 new songs but they're not about to come out with an album when Caroline is releasing stuff like Collection II and the Box-Set. It wouldn't make sense. They're just getting back into the playing scene and sooner or later they'll have stuff out. Anyway fiends, I still need people to volunteer to help put up tour posters in Richmond, DC, Asbury Park, and at Subzero Club. If you can/will help, please let me know ASAP. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 11:30:22 -0700 From: JAMES & ELLN GREIG Subject: SUBSCRIBE I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO EVERYONE TO QUIT BITCHING ABOUT WETHER THE MISFITS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MISFITS WITHOUT GLENN,WE WILL NEVER KNOW SO SHUT UP! J GREIG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:08:07 -0400 (EDT) From: AON-1 Subject: EAD CD hey fiends- Thanks to all who responded to my EAD quiz/offer. Legion responded first and got all the questions right, so the CD is his. But you're really all winners in my book. Anyway, the correct answers: 1. The gumball machine guy is Tom Servo 2. Anybody with half a brain knows that the Roir sessions are the best thing the Bad Brains ever did 3. Black Francis was the singer for the PIXIES. 4. William S. Burroughs Sr. wrote Naked Lunch. His son Bill Jr. wrote Speed and Kentucky Ham. Hey, on the topic of lyrics - one thing in the box lyrics that seems patently wrong to me is the part in "Bullet" that says "Jonathan of Kennedy" - would anybody actually say that? I always thought it was "Jonathan F. Kennedy." And here are my alternate (but sadly wrong) lyrics to the 2nd verse of "Angelfuck:" "Little Angelfuck, I see you going down on the party floor / My little Angelfuck, a slice for everyone." -aon-1 ------------------------------ From: Misfitkev@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:21:15 -0400 Subject: Count me in for the Bible Shirt!!!! **This message is to support the Bible Shirt idea*** Hello Fiends!!! I think the Bible shirt is a great idea. I havent had a chance to post too many messages on the bible but I just had to support this business investment. I escpecially like the stuff on the sleeves idea. Nice thinking there Fiends!!! PS. Wouldn't it cool to make this fiend club thing kinda like a fraternity?? You know, kinda helping other fiends in need and stuff. :-) Well, see ya later. Oh, does anyone on this list live anywhere near the Buffalo, NY area??? If so, PLEASE e-mail me at: MiSfiTkEv@aol.com ----Oi Oi Oi !!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 02:22:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Subject: Misfit shirts and other shit Well I finally got my Misfit shirts in the mail today(Fri.April.12).I took me close to month to get them but it was worth it.I think they're great.And one of them (a Jerry Only shirt) was signed by Jerry Only (obviously).And when I checked my P.O. box today I found a card that said I had a parcel.They number these cards for some reason and on the card I got was the number 138!!No shit!Well I thought it was cool,but I couldn't keep the card which is shitty. On a sortta related note I seen a kick-ass punk rock show the other day which was Dayglo Abortions.The Dayglo Abortions a graet CANADIAN punk band and if you see they're record BUY IT you won't be disapointed! See Ya , Jason Carter ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:52:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: comics Prince Namor was on the tube in the 70's. He was part of a marvel comics cartoon series that, for the most part took the art work and story line from old comics. They would take a stripped down copy of a comic panel and only animate the mouth, or move the arm back and forth, just the very basics. To call it animation is pushing it(god it was crude. I remember for fight scenes there would be a static picture of a fight and they would move the pic at 45degree angles while making a rumbling noise) When i saw it in the 70's my tv station would alternate days Mon-the hulk tue-Iron man Wed-capt. america thur-thor(makes sense, you know thursday from thors day,anyway and fri-Prince Namor, the Sub-Mariner. check your video store. Speaking of comics, One of Glenn's comics Devilman?(i think) has a story about the nike statue. I dont think he wrote it, but being editor/publisher? he might of had some creative input. The story is a fantasy about how the statue of nike came to be. By the way a lot of my art teachers pronounce it kind of like "nickey". Not like the shoe. jamil ------------------------------ From: "Laura Pleasants [12]" Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:21:08 EST/EDT Subject: substance underground It is people like Psycho Billy and Bloodfeast that keep punk alive as it was so long ago. Thank you thank you thank you. What I'm writing right now doesn't neccessarily have to do with the Misfits because they are kinda in their own category in that they have such a wide spectrum of audiences. But punk is dying because of the schmucks like little Johnny with money coming out of his ass and Mommy buying him shiny boots and a rancid t-shirt. Punk isn't about all that superficial bullshit. Like P.B. said, punk is eating the rich and the elite and spitting their fucking remains out in the gutter. And yes, ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING. Fuck the govn't, fuck growing up, fuck society; but fight for a reason. Be punk for a fucking reason. The Misfits comeback (I have yet to see them) is either going to kick ass, or it is going to kill them. We will see. This is negative (can't help it) but, I can see the New Misfits shows turning into an Ozzy show as someone mentioned in an earlier issue. And what is it with you people spending your fucking rent money on a fucking record. It's a RECORD. What's so important is the Sound on the record, not the vinyl. If any of you are unsure of what I am talking about, just go rent the movie SURBURBIA. It rocks. To some guy, WES THOMAS: I am a girl. I am into the Misfits. And I am fucking hot. JESSESKAM: hey!he!h! I've writtrn and can't seem to get through to you so drop me a line and see if it sends ok BloodFeast: just wanted to say that I approve of you. So, here's a checkmark. B ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:23:11 -0400 From: jim Subject: ahh like how does that theme thing work? I know that somebody said to email them if you needed help but i erased that bible so can anybody tell me how to work that theme thing? also thanks to the guy who told us how to change the from address thing. i was sick of people thinking my name was james. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 03:42:24 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Boom Boom I'm listening to this tape of John Lee Hooker that I just got. You guys may not believe this, but "I'm the One" off of Lucifuge sounds exactly like this one. So, what does that make it, 4 songs that are just copies? ie: Bodies, The Hunter, Killer Wolf, and I'm the One.... I heard Twist of Cain was also a variation of another song. I've still got some respect for Glenn as a songwriter, but I don't think I've got quite as much. Are any misfits songs just different versions of older songs? I'm going to get this boxed set of early elvis, maybe I'll find something there. Sorry to waste more space, but I kinda felt that this was noteworthy. HorrorKid Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 10:52:01 From: Jay Pavento Subject: boston show Hey everybody!!! If anyone is planning on going to the boston show please e-mail me or post a message here!!! Thanks Jason ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 10:53:35 From: Jay "Hellhound" Pavento Subject: lots o' stuff 1) I would like to thank Mark for this great thing also. 2) The shirts: I like the idea of a long sleeve because it is different, I'm even a little interested in the half length sleeves. I really like the idea of a church scene although it seems a little compicated. It does have the potential to be really great if done right. I also like the idea of CG reading the bible or at a computer screen. I also like the CG on the sleave and the web site of the back. Maybe it should say "Welcome to the Pit"?? or "Misfits Central"?? I belive that the shirt SHOULD be specific to this bible because we are different. To Wes: I think the ideas of underwear and cowboy hats are really stupid. I would go for coyboy hats if this were a Primus bible though. Mark did introduce a problem with the rights question, if we can't use CG, maybe a fleashy, drippy, decaying corpse would do. 3) I am soooooooo sick of the argument over who is really punk or not!!!! It is very simple, if you like a bands music: listen. If you don't like their music: don't listen!! When I print this bible out it is like 15 pages, without this damn punk argument it's more like 5. So save a tree and SHUT UP!!! 4) About the CG tattoo. Cliff Burton from Metallica had one that was a black outline 5) I have a few Misfits sightings to report. As you may know Metallica are very big fans and often wear shirts. In the book "Metalica: In Their Own words" they are seen with shirts on pages:19, 27, 66, 69, 88, and 93. In the book "Metallica: Unbound" the pages are: 64, 77 (cg tattoo), 79, 86, 134, 141, 146, and 152. Well thats all, sorry about the length! Jay "Deep inside I know. These seeds I plant will grow." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:17:19 -0400 From: Zoltar Subject: Alan Wright Alan, if you're out there - I got the Undead interview you sent me. Very cool. Thanks! m ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 13:01:00 -0400 Subject: Danzig Hey, Has anyone noticed the similarity in the beginning of the Broken Hope song "Embryonic Tri-Clops" and the riff (I think that's what you call it) of Danzig's "Dirty Black Summer"? Very close! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 14:28:12 -0400 From: devil1@aol.com Subject: lips Hey Fiends, I just subscribed to this board. Pretty cool! If you guys have any information, you can write to me at DEVIL1. By the way, I'm having trouble with some of the icons on the WWW Home Page. When I click on some of them, they just bring up other stuff. What's going on? (Mark, I think it's broken, dude). Anyway fiends, be cool. PS. When's the box set coming out? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 15:32:24 From: Bobby Steele I just got back from CHILLER THEATER. Some interesting stuff there. The Misfits were obvious in their absence. I saw the artwork for the new MISFITS T'-shirt - done by Ed Repka. Interesting. It features Jerry and Doyle bursting out of the grave, kinda like the ACT YOUR RAGE cover idea, But why is it only Jerry and Doyle? I ran into GOOGY Friday night, and he's really pissed at Jerry. He said Jerry's claim that he sold his share is bullshit. He only sold out his share on the previously released stuff, and is supposed to get paid for the box set. Where will it end... royalty time has come and gone. The Fits are back from Europe. They're pissed at ME 'cause I've been talking to you, and telling you what's really going on. Maybe Mark could send them copies of all that went on this past month or so, and show them what I said. On another note; TIMES SQUARE played at CBGB's on Saturday night. I ran into a few bible members who seemed pleased with what we were doing. Thanks guys. We've been offered a gig in Montreal, so if you live in that area, expect to see us up there in the next few months. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:34:56 -0400 (EDT) From: AON-1 Subject: ugh... hey- I think everybody needs to get ahold of some prozac or a hobby or some more friends or something. This is the Misfits Bible, not the fucking United Nations. People shouldn't have to issue formal apologies or retractions of statements or care about being in the right. Man, Wes Thomas may be an asshole but at least he's entertaining. Despite what I just said: Brett, I didn't say you made fun of the Misfits' lyrics. Somebody else said the stuff Glenn writes now is "generally much better" than the misfits stuff. I (perhaps wrongly) took this as a cut on the Misfits' lyrics and wrote a delightful, humorous post in opposition to this perceived attack. What happened? I was told to "read more carefully." I was reminded that it was "just somebody's opinion." Thanks for setting me straight, guys. You have helped out a very stupid person. aon-1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:44:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel King Subject: Earth AD CD. Someone offered me $75 for this a while back... and i cant find your address, you said that it would take a while for you to get the cash.. I Need your Email address!!! I need to find out if your still interested in the CD. -Daniel King ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 18:14:09 -0400 Subject: Angry Red Fanzine #2 Greetings Ghoulies !! The second issue of Angry Red Misfits / Samhain / Danzig fanzine is now available. Bigger and better than ever! This issue has cool art , A great JERRY ONLY interview , a killer article by Patricia Ragan Hoehner ( I love this woman ! ) , classified ads , trivia , opinion poll and an 11" x 17" color poster. All for $2. Or be cool and subscribe and you'll get seven issues for $13 including the Halloween Special Edition. I still have a very limited amount of the first issues with the numbered 11"x17" color poster available. Also Bobby Steele interview and the usual art , etc. These are now $2 as well. Get 'em while they're still available. Send cash (@your own risk) money order or checks to : Keith Huening 5883 Kyles Station , Hamilton , Ohio 45011 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 19:58:25 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Times Square hey fiends, Check out the link to the Times square page there is WAV files to down load, and a cool picture of the band. I got a chance to listen to the files and I have to say that they sound like the Ramones with a woman singing. I have to say I like it but I think Bobby is a better guitarist, it would be cool to have him on the axe, and singing and writing the music and lyrics but oh well. But it is worth seeing and Im sure they will be great. D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 21:20:03 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: FUCK THIS Well I'm outta here, this was the straw that broke my back. I can understand getting flamed & recieving payment in kind, but this is just another example of the sort of idiot that chooses to post on this list. I think this idiot's original post was in #162 I urge everyone to check it out he chose to word it in a rediculous way. When I offered some decent comments this is the bullshit that I got in return. "shifter" Said:: >This is Crimson Ghosts reply to me > Well, you seem to have no point at all. Are trying to tell me that >I can't voice my opinion? Are you telling me that I do not have a >constitutional right, like you, to voice my opinions? What makes you >think that you know the best time to say something is? I mean, all I >said was that these guys should play new stuff and should stop living >off of the past. Jesus Christ, I did not know that that was going >too far. I am all for change, I do not know where you came up with >the idea otherwise. But if these guys want change, maybe they should >change the name of the band! Cuz they do not stand for the same >misfits of old. Do you think that Glenn would have entered a band >with only 5 or 6 songs and played all of the bands old songs? I >don't think so! My view is this: THERE WOULD BE NO MISFITS IF IT >THERE WAS NEVER A GLENN DANZIG. The thing is, the guitarists KNOW >IT! So instead of waiting until they can come out with an album OF >THEIR OWN, they go ahead and play old songs that GLENN WROTE. I mean >come on, what is that, that is cheap if you ask me. hmmm was there any reason at all for this diatribe? I didn't flame you at all why have you chosen to flame me? > Seems like you are reading my post wrong Crimson. I said new >singer, not new guitarists. I guess next time I'll have to write two >sentences for such big ideas, huh? odd that's funny here's EXACTLY what YOU said: >me atleast. I am trying to keep an open mind with the new Misfits, >err, I mean the different singer and the guitarists. You said exactly what I referred to, that the guitarist was also new. I didn't read your post wrong YOU wrote it wrong IDIOT. Maybe you shouldn't strive for thoughts that are obviously much too large for your miniscule brain YOU FUCKING JERKOFF! As far as I'm concerned all of you on this list that choose to rip apart everthing I say can just go fuck yourselves. I'm sick of this horseshit. You're all a bunch of no count losers and I will not be drug down this road with you. This list is out of control and hopeless. It was ruined by morons like Shifter & Wes Thomas who have nothing better to do than to trash people for absolutely no reason. I don't have to explain myself to a bunch of pre-pubescent wanna be punks YOU CAN ALL GO FUCK YOURSELVES. Have fun with your little tantrums. I'm just gonna go into hibernation like EVB. This list does nothing for me, what am I gonna learn something by reading it. pfft I doubt it. Mark, email if you want but I will not change my mind, this will be my last post. continue to send this piece of shit to me anyway I'll read it because a few of you actually have something intelligent to say. Whatever comments I have to make will only go out to the select few that I choose. Don't like it? Too fucking bad . I'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the shifter's of this world. You managed to take something that was great (the Bible) and turn it into a big piece of shit, congratulations. I hope you are happy. oh yeah before I forget, Nate Sheridan, quit yer fuckin crying nobody wants to hear it. CG ------------------------------ From: REAGANPR@jmu.edu Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 21:33:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: bible t-shirts...basically they suck! okay, who agrees with me that all the t's on mark's page suck (no offense). Okay, i don't hink i will buy one because if jerry wants some new "heavy metal" art like what's on the new t-shirts they will suck. I have been planning on silkscreening some tees. I was thinking of making some for the bible, so that instead of having a shirt that says "misfits bible", the members could have a shirt that they can't get anywhere else. here are my ideas.... 1. black t-shirt w/ horror biz cover on front and night of the living dead on the back. 2. black t-shirt w/ big skull on the front (old school) and beware coveron the back. 3. crimson ghost from max's poster on the front and who killed marilyn on the back....on a white tee. Okay, i know that these wont be bible t-shirts, but im sure a lot of fiends would be interested. Here's the story....anyone who is interested needs to e-mail me so that i know if this is even worth doing. It's up to you guys to say no to these new "heavy metal jock" t-shirts. Also, i would like to say that Kenny is dead wrong. The Misfits are heavy metal but they used to be horror-punk core. I feel so sorry that Jerry decided to ruin the once glorious name of the Misfits. Guys, we should have let them die in 1983.... pat ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 19:54:31 -0700 (PDT) From: PRH Subject: the misfits 'n me Well, fiendies... Gomez:Unhappy, darling? Morticia: Utterly!! okay, since i missed issue # 138 (or one dirty ape, as my kid would say!) i wanna tell you my first Misfits experience. At Max's Kansas City, the downstairs was like a regular restaurant. They had real good food, too, not way too expensive like you would expect it to be, being on Park Ave in Gramercy( a nice genteel nabe of NYC) but the upstairs where the bands played was the coolest! But the good part about the downstairs, which was kind of like a Charley Browns, or Beefsteak Charlies, you northeasters will know...they had a juke there, but not like at a diner, a real cool one. It had the Misfits on it, the Heartbreakers (the REAL ones, not that tom petty shit)and all the cool NY bands that had made it too. But they had the BULLET EP on the juke, and it was definitely one of the most popular records on the juke, so i had been hearing "138/h'wood babylon/bullet"for ages. It was firmly ingrained on my brain, thats for sure. And one night, I was at Max's to see the Blessed (Howie Pyro's band--everybody run out and buy the D-Generation LP and also..contact Norton Records to get his great bio of the wonderful icon Rat Fink!)cause Howie was squatting with me, this woulda been in 1978...probably late in the year..who the hell knows, do you Bobby? cause i cant remember if you were there or not! But what i did notice was that the Misfits were a much better band than the Blessed and that the the singer --besides looking great with out a shirt, even then kids!!--was way too good for a punk band. And then they did 138, and it all came to me, wow! thats the GOOD band on the juke! And that is the first time i SAW the Misfits, but didnt know em til later. And that is the next installation of "me and the misfits"-- fuck book deals, i only tell my stories in the m-bible! hope everybody saw the "pulp simpsons" episode tonight, where the cops Lou and Eddie reinact the wonderful "royale with cheese"scene frm pulp fiction, in addition to all the other great scenes, like the one where Herman the Gun Store Owner gets down...Just the coolest, I am so jealous!! ashamed to be a human, not a groening character; patricia ragan hoehner nrwidow@netcom.com "the body of a dead enemy always smells good" -charles IX ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 23:00:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Holford Subject: Quick Question Does anyone know if the Europe shows are ever gonna be circulated? I mean they were recorded and filmed right. Are the Misfits planning to ever release these or just stick em on a shelf? thankz.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 00:39:01 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: what i got to do and need to know... The official questionnaire for the Let's Get To Know Each Other Issue Of the Bible: 1) Real Name - 2) Birthday - 3) Where you got to school, what are you studying, and or where you work - 4) Other bands you like - 5) What got you interested in the Misfits - 6) What are your other interests - 7) What is the last book you read - well those are the questions, all you have to do is answer them and e-mail your questions with answers to: tes777@bridge.net so i can put this together for Mark(who talked me into organizing this - me and my big mouth for suggesting it) If your send them this week we should be able to have the special issue for next mondays Bible!?! ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 166 Wednesday, April 17th 1996 Today's Topics: no more hotdogs bobby, other shit 138? (message that didn't get through b-4) (fwd) lotsa comments Re: Misfits Bible, #165 Bullet lyrics sounds like old lyrics/box-set goodbye CG Re: Misfits Bible, #164 Pain and power Stupid people w/computers! "punk" Re: Misfits Bible, #165 Re: Misfits Bible, #165 Stuff Re: Misfits Bible, #165 CG quit... to cg Steele's right! glenn's solo stuff The Shift(er)... Convention Major Label Issue tattoos and stuff Re: Misfits Bible, #165 CG if your reading... this list is getting bad Misfits Vs. Fuzztones (fwd) the misfits and me pt II I hear Ya......... Just a little hello from a french sucker fan fond of danzig Manimals EP Declaration... Re: Misfits Bible, #165 ... Armbands RE: Misfits Bible, #165 where are your good answers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Apr 96 02:33:13 EDT From: James Sanchez Subject: no more hotdogs >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 03:42:24 -0600 >(CST) >From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu >Subject: Boom Boom >So, what does that make it, 4 songs that >are just >copies? ie: Bodies, The Hunter, Killer >Wolf, and I'm the One.... >I heard Twist of Cain was also a variation >of another song. >I've still got some respect for Glenn as a >songwriter, but I don't think >I've got quite as much. Are any misfits >songs just different versions of >older songs? I'm going to get this boxed set >of early elvis, maybe I'll >ind something there. elvis' Trouble (covered by you know who) is complete based on muddy waters' "hoochie coochie man," so lack of originality is no big deal. everyone rips off everyone else. and i think twist of cain uses the guitar lick from some led zep song. and as patricia told me, danzig got his idea for Skulls from Hasil Adkins' No More Hotdogs, an amazing song. everybody needs to stop wasting their money on collecting original pressings of misfits vinyl and go buy some hasil adkins (out of control hill bill/ rockabilly one man band from as far back as the 50s, but still around. order from norton records. later, james ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 00:56:24 -0600 From: Opus Subject: bobby, other shit First off, Bobby: I will admit that I changed my opinion about you after a lot of different stories I had heard about you. But a lot of your postings get on my nerves very quickly. You tell us stories which I am sure most of us like, but in there you seem to always throw in your bitterness toward Jerry. I tell ya; we know you are unhappy. That is a fact that most of us have seemed to grasped by now. We know you are not satisfied. Another fact: JERRY IS NOT A BIBLE SUSCRIBER. Leave the bitterness out of this. There is enough bullshit ankle biting going on with this bible that is killing it. REAGANPR@JMU.EDU: Sorry you didn't like any of the shirt idea. Wait, no I am not. I can't imagine why you would say that they suck... could it be to market your own??? All of the shirts you are planning look like some hellish copyright infringments to me. BIBLE SHIRTS: I give a thumbs up to them! My personal vote goes to the first one listed. Cool idea to list members. michael ------------http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit/-------------------------- "Ever ask yourself, 'where's my place in this hell?'" -Operation Ivy X X XX X X XX X XXX XX XX XXX X XX XXX XXX XXX XXX XX XXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXX XXXX XXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XXXXXX XX XXXXXXX X XXXX XX XX XXXX X XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX X X X XXXXX XX X X X X X XXX X X X X X X ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 02:14:49 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: 138? (message that didn't get through b-4) (fwd) Hello again Fiends, It sucks not to know very many people who are into the 'fits, 'cause then you can't really exchange info. That's where this bible comes in. Allelujah! Well, I checked the Web page, and I didn't find this info, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and ask you guys. What the hell is 138 (as in "We are 138?")? That song simply kicks ass. Thanks, Ben Todd ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 11:40:32 -0500 From: Jolanta C Biniek Subject: lotsa comments ok, i tend not to write long posts... but after more that 90 bibles, i can't help it anymore. the first time i saw the misfits bible was also the first time i was ever on netscape. i had never navigated this monster before and had no help, it took me something like an hour of mucking around with it to find a search-engine. webcrawler i think. the first word i ever searched for was "misfits." and i was damn surprised to see that many entries! after going from page to page i finally found this one... number #72. so i lurked around a bit, eventually got an e-mail number and subscribed. i have read every single bible from #1 to this. every damn post (though i scan the repetitive ones). guess what? almost everything that *can* be said about punk, hardcore, etc. had been said. i don't have to repeat my views anymore... they are summed up pretty well by mark and brent eyestone. look back, a lot of these threads don't have to be revived because we have settled them. your views have probably already been represented. wes- ... remember Lucifer@aol.com?... Misfitkev@aol.com- "fraternity"? i don't have a flame big enough. we *already* help each other out, communicate, trade, etc. there are lots of examples i could point to. the society is there, keep the shitty lable off. maybe i'm just sensitive to that type of thing. teevee- did you ever get the Voyages catolog about a half-year ago? there is a porno movie called "the Misfits". it's not a real Misfits video ofcourse, but's it's kind of funny if you have $30 to spend on a joke. comics/all- anybody interested in verotic/ mr.monster (multiple misfits refs)/ poison elves (1 issue dedicated to Danzig, Rollins etc.) contact me for the story or send a buck and i'll photo-copy some of the cool parts for you. addy is j.c.b. 2318 n. kedvale, chicago il 60639. w.p. musso- dead silence- yaaaay, i love that band, now maybe i can work in a mention for tit-wrench... brian baileys- wasn't gg allin on a talk-show a few years back? i can't remember which one but he was defending his shows. funny shit. litterally :) ev. obrian- get my letter yet? there was a $-order in there, hope it's not lost. get it touch ok? CG- i saved this one for last. i'm surprised you lasted this long. you and mark both have taken a lot more shit than i would have ever stood for. i figured the pick flame would have done the trick, you held on longer than i would have given you credit for. i'd be sorry to see you gone for good. there are some great things about this list, don't forget that. 1. on no other list have i seen people apologise + admit they were wrong. 2. the people i have met have been damn honest w/ me. in contests, or trading i have nothing but good to say (thanks goat, e.obrian, bc eyestone, CG etc). 3. it's damn funny. especially stuff like "glenn's nose job" or "who'd win in a fight between...", the "misfit murders". wether the people are serious or not, it can get damn funny. 4. this may not be one of them, but you do get some good, informative posts. mark's are my favorite, but misfit's trivia is great too. ok. i'll spare you guys more long posts... maybe in another 90 issues... -jolanta. c. biniek ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #165 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:09:17 -0500 (EST) Hello all you no-good punks, I just got out of my film claass here at purdue university, and it was really interesting. We watched a documentary on eorge Lucas. Did you know that he filmed thx1138 when he was twenty something and still in film school? He went on to say that the film was originally only 20 minutes long but when the studio bought it they had him lenghthen it so that it could be presented as a feature. During an interview he stated that he did not get much recognition for that movie but that a "hardcore" band from the 70's had written a song about it! I was still dissapointed that he didn't actually mention the misfits or say if he liked the song, but it was still cool as hell! For those of you that don't know, the monster guy that the fits are standing with in the boxed set booklet is the phantom of the opera, which was a silent movie from the twenties, a horror movie, not some pussy-ass play by andrew loyd webber. The mask looks just like Lon Chaney didi in the flick. Things not directly related to the misfits: Wes Thomas- I thought that you had left the bible for good, what the hell are you back for? You are unwanted. Have you ever even heard a misfits song, because I have never heard you say anything that proves that you even know who they are. Get a fucking life you jerkoff. I did not appreciate you saying bad things about patricia- she is one of the coolest members here. And I'm willing to bet that does not fit into your description of all female misfits fans- fat, ugly, and lazy. To sum it up wes: Get the fuck out of here or else we will have to organize a a roaad trip to ball state and beat some sense into you. Greg- I don't know how long you have been on the bible but I have only seen you post recently. Stop siding with wes, I have a feeling that maybe you are friends with him or maybe even but-buddies, after all- you do both go to the same college. Crimson Ghost- Please don't give up on the list. When somebody talks shit about you just ignore them or sick me on them ( I am your friend now, remember? ) We all need you here because you know alot more about the band than most of us. All of the people that are picking on that 14 year old- Leave him the fuck alone. He has every right to be here. I think that it is great to have younger people liking the misfits. His input should be respected. Until next time- nazi punks fuck off, Adam Seven ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 13:59:15 -0400 Subject: Bullet lyrics To aon-1 , sorry man , the lyrics ARE " Jonathan OF Kennedy." The first pressing lyric sheet says so , anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 13:50:33 +0600 From: rlammey Subject: sounds like To whoever was saying that Danzig songs are ripoffs. Twist Of Cain is a slow version of a Led Zeppelin tune. I forget what song, but I'll listen to my cd's. I was a huge Zeppelin fan and this was one of the first thing I noticed when I started listening to Danzig. I'll post it next issue. ------------------------------ Subject: old lyrics/box-set Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 11:35:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Richard Duran mark, several issues ago, you made a request for lyrics to "in the doorways", "harpies in the night", "feline nursery" and possible some others. just who were those questions addressed to? i'd imagine there are people on this list who actually saw the 'fits circa that time, but i'd also imagine that you know who they are. of course, you might not. just curious anyway. about the box-set, i finally listened to halloween 2 on the sessions disc (never really bothered before cuz while it's cool, it's not one of my fav trax) and boy i'm glad i did. i love how they end it in the style of halloween (faster). i also agree w/ whoever posted about the reel platinum tracks...the slightly slower versions are too cool. closer to the sound of cough/cool and she than WAU is. sorry to see you go CG. can't say i blame ya (nor EVB). +=} gut-ripper {=+ i'm offended by human nature was told the truth by someone who lied there are times when not being human would be a source of inner pride entombed: full of hell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:55:25 -0400 From: Zoltar Subject: goodbye > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:07:47 -0600 > From: Christian Hunter McClain > > My guess is that these are probably Glenn's solo demos for some of the > songs. I know that one guy has told Mark that he was there at the > recording of Waltz and it was Samhain that did it, but it could also be > possible that there was another version recorded with Samhain and this is > what the guy was thinking of. Even though Jerry and the other guys didn't > play on these tracks, I'm sure that if Glenn wrote and recorded these on > his own durning his Misfits days, he'd probably look at them as Misfits > songs. No! It was recorded by Samhain and included by Glenn on Collection 2. > And since that non-misfits stuff was on there anyway, why didn't he put the > single versions of Who Killed Marilyn and Spook City USA? Because they weren't songs that Glenn considered to be Misfits songs. > From: Ratan > I wonder if the first 50,000 copies of the Box-Set are sold yet. And how > do you know if you've got one of theese? The 2nd press had not been pressed. The sticker on the box set tells you if you have the first press or not. > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:40:45 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Brian Baileys" > Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 > > Hey bobby i can think of one artist who i don't think was in it for the Money, > GG Allin. I don't know what he was in it for, did the misfits ever do any > shows with him? anybody know? any sick twisted people who like GG feel No. They did not. > From: "AngelfucK" > Hey mark, any news on the armbands? Im hoping this doesn't get put on > the back burner. And to Danzig4192, thanks for the info, Im going to Nope. No word yet. > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:32:44 -0400 (EDT) > From: "William P. Musso" > Bobby, do you believe that all musicians were put on this earth to > promote the greed and sheep-like following of Nirvana and Green Day? And Why greed? Because they're successful? > Tes777, yes, OF COURSE Glenn sold out. And regarding your comments > about Bobby, no, I don't want to see him or anyone else be in poverty for > the rest of their lives. In fact, my point is quite opposed to that notion. So... Glenn sold out because he's written songs, performed, recorded, and toured consistenly for the past 20 years without ever sacrificing his beliefs or backing down to anybody and never once contradicting himself? Is that what you're saying? As far as I know, Glenn never called himself a punk rocker, nor has he set himself up to be somebody's hero. > The system that allows that poverty is the very same system that allows > only a handful of people to obtain and control all the wealth. Anyone > who becomes a part of that elite, whether as a rockstar or CEO, is > perpetuating that system. Things need to be more equal so that NONE of > us will have to live in poverty! Aha! So he sold out because his political views aren't the same as yours. Well that's your own personal opinion and political idea and you know how valid that is... > From aon-1 > Hey, on the topic of lyrics - one thing in the box lyrics that seems > patently wrong to me is the part in "Bullet" that says "Jonathan of > Kennedy" - would anybody actually say that? I always thought it was > "Jonathan F. Kennedy." The lyrics to "Bullet" were included in 1978 with the Bullet 7". If any of the lyrics in the box set are 100% correct, it's the Bullet lyrics. > From: Crimson Ghost > Well I'm outta here, this was the straw that broke my back. I can understand > getting flamed & recieving payment in kind, but this is just another example First EVB, and now CG.... Hey it's all fun and games, right? I think a lot of you don't bother to flame me just because I run the mailing list. Don't worry, I'm not going to kick anyone off. Flame away if you'd like. > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 23:00:21 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jon Holford > Subject: Quick Question > > Does anyone know if the Europe shows are ever gonna be > circulated? I mean they were recorded and filmed right. > Are the Misfits planning to ever release these or just stick em on a shelf? As far as I know, they were filmed only by bootleggers. As for ticket prices fiends... some of you were talking about KISS tickets costing $200 this summer. That was complete trash. The ticket prices are going to range from $35 (normal seating) to $85 (special seating). I know most of you don't care about KISS, but I just wanted to correct this error. see you later fiends mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:20:00 -0500 From: "Evil is as Evil does..." <02tjthompson@bsuvc.bsu.edu> Subject: CG >From: Crimson Ghost >Subject: FUCK THIS There is something very wrong when two of the primary reasons I read the bible are no longer here (EVB and now CG). I can only hope that things don't degenerate to the point that the only people whose posts I will bother reading are Mark's and a few others (what am I saying...it already has). I guess I'll see in the next few issues. If it turns out not to be worth my time...I'll be next on the unsubscribe list. If you happen to see this CG, thanks for all that you've done for the bible, all the info that I couldn't have gotten elsewhere...you will be missed as much as EVB. Tim "Evil is as evil does..." ------------------------------ From: "PSYCHOLICBASTARD" Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:14:10 +1100 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 Wes, shut the fuck up ------------------------------ From: Warhammer Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:02:23 +1100 Subject: Pain and power "Once again the sky turns red and the Warhammer rises to respond to his favorite band journal" just felt like being creative . I have to respond you know! first to Eric (horrorkid) Your discovery is noted but take a look at Danzig's 3+4 there are not any covers. perhaps Glenn remade them because he wanted the album to be longer so he took some songs he liked and remade them in his sooky manner of music and turned them into the wonderful songs they are. I love Danzig and I really would not care if all the songs are covers I love them all any way. I would like to welcome Devil1 new people are good. the box set has been out for a while and most of us have it already but heel don't get discouraged that you did not know that it may be hard to fi nd where you live. to pat- slandering the misfits on the misfits journal is very stupid you fukin asshole!!!!!!!! Patricia(my goddess) I can't wait to here more! That is all for now please fiends feel free to Email me I will respond. fiendish salutations "I've broken juggers in half, left the field with their brains splattered on the ground, I'll do anything to put the dogs skull on that post. but I never hurt a soul on purpose and I don't want too"- Gonzu-Blood of Heroes ------------------------------ From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:34:04 +0100 Subject: Stupid people w/computers! Crimson Ghost, What you have to realise is that when everyone is given an equal opportunity to speak, this undoubtedly means that loads of dumb-fuck incapable-of-saying-anything-even-remotely-intelligent type people will jump in with their typical desire to demonstrate their stupidity to the world. This is just the way it is, and I think it's the price that has to be paid for this equal opportunity medium. Also, the fact that people can say things from the relative safety of their own home (or Uni. or whatever) means that they are undoubtedly that bit braver when not faced with an actual confrontation with the person involved. Wes Thomas for example...in a real life situation I don't think he'd last two minutes with his attitude problem...someone would eventually tire of him, and realising that talking wasn't gonna work would knock his teeth out. Not something I agree with, but a reality nonetheless. So, the point I'm trying to make is that people seem to have a tendency to over-react, be ultra-critical and fall into the trap of mindless slagging rather than actually proving any points. If you're right about something, then prove it! It did seem to me that "shifter" over-reacted a bit to your reply, but you also over-reacted to his I think. If you both think you're right, then lets see both sides of the argument. You both make fair points, but every insult just reduces the impact of what you're saying. If you are right in the first place, then cheap jibes aren't necessary. I *want* to see both points of view...it's only by getting all sides of an argument that it is possible to draw some conclusions. Kinda like how so many of the Bible people think major labels are fine...I would say that's only because they don't know much about them. Multi-national corporations run (and ruin) this whole world, and majors are part of that shit. And no, I'm not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to make money...of course they should, but they shouldn't do it at the expense of other people etc. It's fine by me if the Misfits want to make money...as long as that isn't the only reason they're doing it, and as long as they don't rip people off. Simple! This is beginning to drag on a bit now (all you head-in-the-sand people who only want "music" will've no doubt skipped it by now anyway), so I'll make the point and get going...Crimson Ghost, I think you should reconsider your hibernation! I'm also sick of the dumb-fuck stuff that's in the Bible's, which is why I don't want to see any of the people with brains give it up. Then the losers will have won...and losers *can't* win! Just refuse to rise to the bait of the name-callers. And finally, I've put my pedantic hat on, and I think the "the" before "guitarists" (in "shifers" post) seperates them from being included in the "new" part. I think he means "the different singer and *the guitarists* from the Misfits". Okay, that's all! Honestly! ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:38:10 -0400 Subject: "punk" i was talking about "punk rock". not being a "punk". read the earlier part of my post about the differences between "punk" bands. black flag did songs about watching tv, and knocking back beers. that sounds like pretty normal everyday people stuff to me. does that mean black flag is not "punk rock"? or the damned. i do see your point. but like i said i was talking about the music not being a "punk". the "getting to know you" issue sounds great! hopefully it'll lighten things up a bit. i must say, crimson ghost was right. there was no need to flame him especialy when you were wrong about your own post. everyone has an opinion and the right to voice it, but don't go off for no reason. unless you're attacked, there's no need to flame someone like that. we all have a tendancy to take other people's opinions too personaly. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:51:50 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #165 CG, I love you. Please come back. I never meant for it to end like this. You fuck head. I guess this means that I win. Leave. We don't like you. You are far to mature for us. We are nothing without you. In fact, I just broke the motherfucking terminal due to my everflowing tears of despair. By the way, if you say you're going to leave, than leave. We don't need anyone who's going to threaten to kill anyones mother's around here. Bye-bye cry baby. ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:24:31 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #165 Bobby, It's funny you should mention that shirt of Doyle and Jerry bursting from the grave. I drew a picture of that a month or two ago and told a couple of people on the bible about it. I guess someone thought it was a good idea eh? Just kidding, if I could think something like that up Im sure that anyone else could. Im NOT implying that anyone stole the idea off of me. For the record, my drawing has Doyle and Jerry crawling from their graves, CHUD hanging from a rotted tree by the neck, but his hands are out as if he is trying to grab you, and Micheal is sitting on a tombstone like a gargoyle, with huge bat like wings. He is holding a mic that is kinda plugged into the ground and the letters on the tombstone, if you could erase the grass and grime drawn over them, would almost spell out Danzing. Centering the pic is a creepy looking Vampira with one oustretched arm covered in blood and on the left, taking up the entire lenghth of the sheet, is a hooded crimson ghost, whose black cloak flows across to the right behind everyone. Very cool pic. ANyways, I gotta go study, and about this entire punk\not punk thing, FUCK IT, if its good it't good, if it's not it's not. Who cares? Later Roger ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.aonline.com Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:37:02 EDT Subject: Stuff TO Jay"Hellhound"...You can at least be nice enough to credit "Deep inside I know, The seeds I plant will grow." to Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett/Newsted for the time being. Even though the song is far from release you can at least lower your self on the Asshole-o-meter. Umm...Oh yea. If Mephisto Waltz is a Samhain song why is it on the Box set?? Another thing...Why are ALL songs credited to being written by Glenn Danzig if Ratt Fink is a cover song?? chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:59:43 From: Bobby Steele Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #165 >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:40:45 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Brian Baileys" >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #164 > >Hey bobby i can think of one artist who i don't think was in it for the > Money, GG Allin. I don't know what he was in it for, did the misfits >ever do any shows with him? anybody know? any sick twisted people who > like GG feel free to e-mail me. I hate to break it to ya, but GG made some pretty good money from his records. Too bad he stuck it all in his arm. You say you don't know what he was in it for. Neither do I. He was basically a madman, with a desire for power. He started off as a talented songwriter, but after years of dealing with bullshit -he lost it. You can't compare him to a real punk musician. >I was the one who originally brought up this thread. My thought was that >most people who think the lyrics are silly will go on thinking that, but if >someone APPROACHES Glenn and says "Hey Glenn, your Misfits lyrics are > dumb", >he can legitimately say "Those aren't my lyrics, they fucked them all up". >It's just a way for him to save face when confronted with it. It's > certainly >easier than explaining to idiot fanboy #652 how he was a lot younger then, >how lyrics maybe weren't as important as melody, etc. etc. > >Again, this is just a theory, and not a knock on Glenn. Personally I think >it's legit only because I'd do the same damn thing. > > - Dave I'll try to clear this up, as best I can: whenever I asked Glenn what the words to a song were; he'd blush, and say something like "don't worry. It's not important" I think he was insecure about what he was writing. As some of you have pointed out - the lyrics are DUMB!!! BUT, in the context of the MISFITS, along with his melodies...it was pure genius. His B-grade lyrics were perfect for the B-movie theme of our songs. >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:55:19 -0500 >From: ED >> i always thought punk was just the attitude, no matter what you had to >>say. you could be punk singing about grape nuts if you're loud,rude and >>raunchy. it's not about major labels or whatever. the only reason punk >>bands generaly aren't on major labels is because until now nobody wanted >>to hear them, but their loyal fans who were few compared to the >>mainstream. >> D.EVIL >What is this all about? loud, rude and raunchy is what being "punk" is all >about? I dont know where u were informed but whoever told you was full of >shit. Being a "punk" used to be about no sticking to the styles of society >and sticking out in a crowd, it was about not being ruled by the cheesy >governments rules, not anarchy, but jsut not agreeing with what the >government has to say, its not about being loud, rude and raunchy as you > put it. Stop fighting. You're both right. Remember LP's like YOUNG LOUD AND SNOTTY / BLANK GENERATION. Punk was meant to be loud, rude, raunchy, defiant, rebelious. Just like Rockn'roll was in the beginning. It's anything that scares your parents, and it's juvenile. >But however, on the second part, the major labels part, I agree 100% who >cares if a band is on a major label? at least the music sounds >better(production wise). >Well, thats all I have to say, later fiends. believe it or not; you agree on all points. >From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu > You know, i still would like to see some Undead music on the Tab > page. >Nothing fancy, just some chord progresions(A D E) like on the 'fits page. > thats all jamil Got any requests? >From: "William P. Musso" >Subject: replies to some comments > Bobby, do you believe that all musicians were put on this earth to >promote the greed and sheep-like following of Nirvana and Green Day? What are you talking about? Do you know for a fact that Nirvana and Green Day are greedy? I seem to remember Green Day playing a local arena last year. I think the tickets were about $7.00. >since you are so all-knowing about the intentions of every band on the >planet, please impart your great wisdom to me about Whorehouse of >Representatives, Naked Aggression, Dirt, and Dead Silence. BTW, I'm not >interested in buying that bridge, but you might be able to sell it to >someone at Lollapalooza if you're going! I can't help it if I've been in this longer than you, but if you check out the history of punk rock, you'll hear a constant mention of the 'dole'(welfare in the U.K.), and how the bands wanted off the dole. Listen to songs like CAREER OPPORTUNITIES, or RIGHT TO WORK. These aren't songs about why the government should support all the MRR reading losers, who feel they're owed something for just sitting on their asses. These are songs about wanting to make a living in a day when British youth saw NO FUTURE. This was before the communist backed infiltration of the scene by opportunist radicals who never gave a fuck about the music, and just wasnt to use the idealistic youth to do their dirty work. Like I said the rapper were too smart to fall for that crock , but the white boys can't see the forest for the trees. > Bloodfeast, Cool! It,s nice to know there are other people on the >bible who understand my point about the music! > Tes777, yes, OF COURSE Glenn sold out. And regarding your comments >about Bobby, no, I don't want to see him or anyone else be in poverty for >the rest of their lives. In fact, my point is quite opposed to that > notion. >The system that allows that poverty is the very same system that allows >only a handful of people to obtain and control all the wealth. What is this "SYSTEM". Are you talking about the government? Do some basic research. Stop believing the MRR doctrine. YOU, WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT. How do you expect to beat the rich? I can give you a good idea. Get rich! At least try, like I'm doing. The above statement sounds like the exact piece of shit the communists are feeding you. Judging by your address, I assume you're in college. I don't understand why so many college students fall for that commie agenda. >who becomes a part of that elite, whether as a rockstar or CEO, is >perpetuating that system. Things need to be more equal so that NONE of >us will have to live in poverty! READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS. How many people have gotten rich...wait...how many have escaped poverty in a communist government. Why are people fleeing communist countries, to live in the U.S. OPPORTUNITY. Why do you see so many businesses being owned by Koreans and Vietnamese - when these people came here in the past thirty years with no money? OPPORTUNITY. The U.S. is far from perfect, but if you think it's fair to give everybody the same reward, regardless of how much effort they put in, eventually you'll have a society of people doing nothing. MEDIOCRITY. > EvilDieff, you're right, songs don't have to be political to be >punk. Punk is an attitude, but that attitude DOES NOT INVOLVE being >acceptable to the mainstream! What if the mainstream agrees with YOU? are you gonna change your whole philosophy, just to be "radical"? Talk about a REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE. Do you support legalisation of MEDICAL MARIJUANA? So does the mainstream. Even people in their 60's and 70's support it, so maybe it's time for you to oppose lagalisation. The mainstream is beginning to accept homosexuality, too. Does this mean the we, as true punks should go out and start kicking the shit out of them? Even MRR has its own ELITE CLASS, just like the COMMUNIST PARTY. Get outa school and get real. >From: AON-1 >Subject: EAD CD >hey fiends- >And here are my alternate (but sadly wrong) lyrics to the 2nd verse of >"Angelfuck:" "Little Angelfuck, I see you going down on the party floor / >My little Angelfuck, a slice for everyone." That's what I always heard, too. >I think everybody needs to get ahold of some prozac or a hobby or some >more friends or something. This is the Misfits Bible, not the fucking >United Nations. People shouldn't have to issue formal apologies or >retractions of statements or care about being in the right. Sorry. I'm very sorry for all my past apologies, and would hereefor like to extend my sincerest appologies for such. I'd also like to apologize for this apology >From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) >Subject: Times Square >hey fiends, > Check out the link to the Times square page there is WAV files to >down load, and a cool picture of the band. I got a chance to listen to >the files and I have to say that they sound like the Ramones with a woman >singing. I have to say I like it but I think Bobby is a better guitarist, >it would be cool to have him on the axe, and singing and writing the music >and lyrics but oh well. I do.It's called THE UNDEAD!(he he). This is Jills creation, and out of respect for her, and her extraordinary talents, I asked to play bass. Wait'll you see her live. She's a real ham. >From: PRH >Subject: the misfits 'n me >Well, fiendies... > >Gomez:Unhappy, darling? >Morticia: Utterly!! > >okay, since i missed issue # 138 (or one dirty ape, as my kid would say!) >i wanna tell you my first Misfits experience. >At Max's Kansas City, the downstairs was like a regular restaurant. >They had real good food, too, not way too expensive like you would >expect it to be, being on Park Ave in Gramercy( a nice genteel nabe >of NYC) but the upstairs where the bands played was the coolest! >But the good part about the downstairs, which was kind of like a Charley >Browns, or Beefsteak Charlies, you northeasters will know...they had a >there, but not like at a diner, a real cool one. It had the Misfits on it, >the Heartbreakers (the REAL ones, not that tom petty shit)and all the cool >NY bands that had made it too. But they had the BULLET EP on the juke, >and it was definitely one of the most popular records on the juke, >so i had been hearing "138/h'wood babylon/bullet"for ages. It was firmly >ingrained on my brain, thats for sure. And one night, I was at Max's >to see the Blessed (Howie Pyro's band--everybody run out and buy the >D-Generation LP and also..contact Norton Records to get his great bio >of the wonderful icon Rat Fink!)cause Howie was squatting with me, >this woulda been in 1978...probably late in the year..who the hell knows, >do you Bobby? - From what I understand, BULLET was put on Max's jukebox just a few weeks before I joined the band; so that would put you in OCTOBER, 78. The BLESSED / MISFITS show was on January 19, '79 - one week before we went to record HORROR BUSINESS. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:34:42 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: CG quit... Well, damn, first EVB, now CG... the coolest thing about this mail-list has been the connections it brings to the actual Misfits. How long till Bobby Steele and Mark himself leave us???!! Oh well. I scroll through most of the messages on here anyway these days... feel free to flame me, cuz I like it. Yay! Teevie >;0) ------------------------------ From: cbmed@cdx.net Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:51:20 -0400 I want to smuggle a tape deck into the Toronto show, and make a bootleg for all the fiends. Can anyone, ie. Mark, or CG, ask Kenny or the Fit's if they can/will let it slide if they get control of the tape? I wanna know! I also would like to film the show, but I'm not gonna bring this equiment into the venue to have it taken away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone find out for me. Oh, by the way, I know what it says on the ticket, I'm trying to pull some strings! Have you all heard of the Weird Al does the Misfits album? tracks: I turned into a Marxist Where Beagles Dare Last Carcass We Are 90210 Skills--rip off of shaq=cool 20 Pies Reebok a stop stop Bad Smell Breaks Loose Green Gel I'll bring the lyrics in soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: to cg Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:50:29 -0400 (EDT) well i tend to agree w/ all that you said cg, suprise. i was wondering how long it would take you to realize that this bible had stopped being good, for lack of a better word. all the little in-fighting, well we sound like congress, yes i watch c-span. to bad that you're not gonna post no more cg, even tho i didn't always agree w/ you at least you argued intelligently. to the guy who said it was a shame that the fits might turn into a constant touring band like ozzy, well i can't see them doing anything else. i can see them in their 50's still touring, thats what they know and love. look @ lemmy, he's over 50 and still can kick most bands off the stage, cause thats what he loves and he's gonna do it til he dies. i can't think a much better thing to do, something you love until you die. so bobby what are you gonna be doing when your 60? probably still rocking. -- Paul Hahn If you think there's a solution hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu then you're part of the problem. Check out the speedball page @ http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul/speedball ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:22:18 -0400 Subject: Steele's right! Fiends, You know I've always forget to post this, but Mr. Steele made a brilliant comment last bible. Why is it all the new Misfits shirts have just Jerry and Doyle? I've seen the European tour flyer and it has all four of them....why don't the shirts have the four? Especially if it's a NEW shirt, and the four guys are in the band for good. I mean, Graves has been playing with the band for about a year now, (the audition Proedge tape is dated 4/24/95). Jason Carter....when you wash that shirt let me know if the autograph washes out. And all Chicago area people.....listen to WVVX 103.1 FM from 10 pm to 7 am, or WKTA 1330 AM from 5 pm to 7 am! Finally a real radio station is back!!! Let's see.....to Crimson Ghost. I've got to agree. Has anyone ever been on the Danzig mailing list? It seems like there are people who were on that, and come to the Bible with the same attitude and behavior. I apologize for this morons remarks, but as we all know he's not alone. That Wes guy is obviously a piece of shit, and we've all dealt with them in the past. That Lucifer guy, and the whole pick thing. I mean, people were posting shit on the bible and cluttering up your mailbox with what? "Where's my pick?" I mean, it's a piece of plastic! But I guess children will be children. Chris ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:48:45 -0400 Subject: glenn's solo stuff the fact that glenn's solo stuff wasn't included on the box set has been mentioned a few times. i don't think it should have been because it's not the misfits. on the who killed marilyn/spook city usa album it says glenn danzig. not the misfits. i don't know why mephisto waltz was on there (it's a good song, but not the misfits) but i don't think it belongs on there or any "misfits" release. i kinda' like the "band" versions of those songs anyway. glenn's drumming wasn't all that great in those days. am i crazy or does it say beware was released in 1980. as far as i know it was 1979. this has probably been addressed before but, i was wondering if this is a mistake. maybe my version of the web page is old and hasn't been updated with this info. did anyone else notice? i mean it was released to promote the 1979 tour with the damned. right? D.EVIL ------------------------------ From: Bruce Lee Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:23:07 -5 Subject: The Shift(er)... HEY! This for the people out there that have Black Aria and think it's the neatest thing on Earth... well, it DOES come close... has anybody noticed the similarities between "Shifter" and Samhain's "The Shift" (Initium)... uh... they're the SAME SONG! I guess that was intentional, being that they're named so much the same... oh well, doesn't bother me too much, I happen to like them both, so... Just wanted to brag about this weekend's big purchase... next on the list is Danzig II... have a poo day. Mark. ----------------------------------------------------------- "Team fundraiser or athletic supporter... you be the judge" Visit the Ouch! My Tongue Records homepage: http://www.evansville.net/~loser/ Mark Nance- mnance@marsh.vinu.edu Co-President and Founder, Ouch! My Tongue Records ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 23:31:35 -0400 red of some people bashing collectors. Look , I wouldn't tell you what to do with your money , so don't even think of telling me what to spend my money on!! I work slavishly hard for my cash , so by God I'll spend it on whatever the fuck I want !!! Yes , yes , yes , the sound is the most important thing , but for collectors original material and rarity mean just as much. I guess if you're not a completeist / collector you wouldn't understand , but hey , that's ok. I won't sit here and rag on you for sticking to mass released material. Hey , that's your thing. Go with it. Just don't harp on us for having a different outlook on records. That is not cool. Collectors HELPED keep the Misfits mystique alive (?) and kicking all these years. People saw how feverishly we pursued the recordings of a long defunct band (then) and paid exorbitant $ for the stuff. They thought ,"Gee , the fans are so dedicated, these Misfits must be pretty good." Remember , when you bash collectors YOU ARE BASHING THE MISFITS THEMSELVES !!! They made colored , limited , variation vinyl especially for collectors! Glenn collects comics , toys , art , animation , AND RECORDS !! Jerry used to collect toys and model kits! Bobby collects old music equipment , I think. Probably a great % of subscribers to this list are collectors! One last thing. I've seen SUBURBIA many , many times. Love it. That skipping record - it's worth big $$$ !! Hehehehe ( The first person to correctly answer what record I'm refering to gets a free issue of ANGRY RED) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 01:34:39 -0400 (EDT) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Convention Hey fiends, Although I agree somewhat with the person who said a bunch of misfit cover bands at the Bible convention (if it ever happens) would be too much. I think one or two would be fine. Having said that, I would like to offer my band "Devilock" up as one of those bands. Our set list contains over half of the Misfit's 52(?) songs and that number grows all the time. We also cover some Danzig and Samhain as well. Anyway, if it ever happens Devilock would be honored to play for all you crazy cats. Those of you who have heard us, spread the word and let the others know what you think. We will also be recording a new demo in the next few weeks and I'll let you all know when it's ready. Thanks, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ From: Tony La Russa Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 22:14:44 -700 Subject: Major Label Issue Dear Fiends, This is the first time that I have ever posted anything and I don't even know if I am doing it right! I always wanted to post something but never had incredible feelings about any particular subject. First, I would like to compliment Mark on the extremly great job that he is and has done on this page. Now I would like to get down to buisness. The Misfits bible is a very motley group. It has old schoolers who have known the band members for an extreme long time (Crimson Ghost) and retards (Wes Thomas). Some of the only con- nections between the bible readers is their love for the Misfits. When the Misfits first began, they were a punk rock group, no doubt whatsoever. Nobody can take this away, no matter how prestigous their title. They came about because of the punk revolution, were very DIY, and played the music style. When punk began (Sex Pistols, Ramones, Clash, Slits) it was began in order to make a change in the fucked up world. These pioneers were tired of the same old shit, and were set out to destroy all the crap before them. When punk started it was not a commodity like it is now. It has changed so much that it is very disghusting to look at today's scene and see Football players with 7 Seconds, Misfits, and Dead Kennedys shirts. To tell you the truth, it is becoming a joke. To get to my point for William Musso's ( I think that is his name), major labels are a very big thing. They have made a joke out of a style of music and ideals thathas been very important for some people Major labels can not treat a band the same as an independent label can. No offense to Bobby Steele ( I have the utmost respect for him), but if you were to take his top sell- ing album, I am sure it would most likely be considered a financial fiasco. Why do they want to spend a shitload of money on a band when they can spend it on someone who won't mind being in the tabloids, doing interviews on TV, and becoming a huge ROCK STAR! They want some- one who they can market and make a lot of money off of. An Independent label, in my mind is the only way to go. The major labels don't give a shit about you and if you don't sell 2 million copies, they will drop you so fast your head will spin. And MTV is just a division, a marketing plan for the major labels. and a big reason for why Punk Rock is a big joke. Now a lot more kids whe love Green Day and the Offspring are just head over heels for punk rock. "Tee-hee anarchy is so fun. I can't wait to see who guest stars on Sesame Street today". I started out saying one thing in my head and now this whole speech sounds a little weird. I am sorry for babbling on for so long, it is just that punk rock has made a huge difference in my life for 5 years and now that people make a joke out of it, it tends to get on your nerves. To Bobby Steele, if you were to sign to a major label or make an MTV video, I would still support you and buy your albums, but I would wonder how you would be able to sleep at night knowing that your bosses were helping orgainzations like the PMRC or making weapons for war. If this sounds like a slam to you Bobby it really isn't meant to be. I still believe that the UNDEAD are a great band. If this sounds stupid, sorry folks. Thanks for listening, Vinnie "QT" La Russa P.S.- For the punks on this, I have heard and seen it, Zack from Rage against the Machine/Inside out wears a Los Crudos shirt in their video (At least I think so). What a fucking joke! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 02:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: tattoos and stuff if you look through a couple issues of tattoo, or savage tattoo magazines you can find a misfits inspired tattoo. if i were you though i'd get a custom design done, afterall who wants the same thing thirty other people have permenantly inscribed upon their body... Henry rollin's tattoos suck and he should invest some serious money in coverups. anyways in my opinion black and grey make the best choice for a tattoo's colouration and tend not to fade as much as other colours. look through some magazines and see if you can find an artist that does good work in your area... i'm the one has what i believe to be considered a standard blues progression... a lot of blues songs sound a like because they use the same chord progressions... so its not necesarilly copying a certain song, but it is meant to copy a certain style of blues... the same goes for the hunter and ect. danzig, eerie and john christ are all heavily blues influenced... also check out life fades away by roy orbison and 13 by johnny cash... both songs written by danzig... CG, say it isn't so... don't let a couple of assholes get to you... there are many, my self included, subscribers that respect your insight. well i hope you change your mind... what is punk? basically one punk can determine whether or not someone else is a punk or a poser... this is the way its has, in my experience, always worked... and fashion punks get kicked in the face. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 00:28:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil E. McAllister" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #165 Just some random comments on the last Bible: > From: "Laura Pleasants [12]" > Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:21:08 EST/EDT > Subject: substance underground > > To some guy, WES THOMAS: I am a girl. I am into the Misfits. And I > am fucking hot. More power to you, Miss Pleasants! > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 03:42:24 -0600 (CST) > From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu > Subject: Boom Boom > > I'm listening to this tape of John Lee Hooker that I just got. > You guys may not believe this, but "I'm the One" off of Lucifuge sounds > exactly like this one. So, what does that make it, 4 songs that are just > copies? ie: Bodies, The Hunter, Killer Wolf, and I'm the One.... Dude, that John Lee Hooker is fucking ripping off Danzig, man! Are we gonna let that old asshole get away with that shit?? Dude, what's with half the classic blues performers in the world ripping off our man's tunes, it just ain't right! Glenn should get better copyright lawyers. > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 15:32:24 > From: Bobby Steele > > I just got back from CHILLER THEATER. Some interesting stuff there. The > Misfits were obvious in their absence. I saw the artwork for the new MISFITS > T'-shirt - done by Ed Repka. Interesting. It features Jerry and Doyle > bursting out of the grave, kinda like the ACT YOUR RAGE cover > idea, But why is it only Jerry and Doyle? Awwww, man... I wish they wouldn't'a done that. When I talked to their manager last, it sounded like we were in agreement that Ed Repka's stuff wasn't really the Misfits' thing. (For those who don't know, Ed Repka is the guy who did the "Ghost Riders" shirt, as well as album covers for half the shitty metal albums of the 80's, including ones for Megadeth, King Diamond, Anthrax, more than I can even think of right now. Big airbrush guy.) I thought they were gonna get more good art back. I thought Pushead was gonna do some stuff for them again. Shit, I thought *I* was gonna save them from the hideous fate of being an "Ed Repka Band". Oh well. I'll keep fighting the good fight! 'Nuff said, true believers. > I ran into GOOGY Friday night, and he's really pissed at Jerry. He said Jerry's > claim that he sold his share is bullshit. He only sold out his share on the > previously released stuff, and is supposed to get paid for the box set. Where > will it end... I get the feeling with the Misfits' revival, Jerry has more splitting headaches from this kinda shit than he was even hoping for. Not saying anyone's right or wrong, of course, cuz like I've said before none of that is my business. But before they left for Europe I dropped the Misfits a letter saying, basically, "Whatever about paying me for artwork, man, I got more things to worry about right now. You do what you gotta do, I'll do what I gotta do, and somewhere in the middle we'll reach an agreement sometime." Just yesterday I got a package in the mail full of flyers and stickers and shit, and the only message in it, written on the side of the envelope was: "Thanks for the breath of fresh air, J.Only" Kinda gave me a little chuckle. I think our pal Jerry has more headaches ahead. (Advisory warning for all the kids out there: I am NOT telling you to take a lax attitude about your contractual agreements. What I choose to do in any given situation is my own business, but for your own safety, if you're in a band or whatever, it's in your best interests to look out for what you think is yours, and take any steps necessary to protect your investment of time, money, creativity, whatever.) > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 21:20:03 -0400 > From: Crimson Ghost > Subject: FUCK THIS > > Well I'm outta here, this was the straw that broke my back. I can understand > getting flamed & recieving payment in kind, but this is just another example > of the sort of idiot that chooses to post on this list. I think this idiot's > original post was in #162 I urge everyone to check it out he chose to word > it in a rediculous way. When I offered some decent comments this is the > bullshit that I got in return. [etc...] CG, whatever. No offense to Mark or anything for all the effort he's put in, but maybe you need to step back and take a breather. This is a fucking mailing list about a band. You maybe wanna stop to consider for a moment... it really ain't that fucking important. Blow it off. > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 00:39:01 -0500 > From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) > Subject: what i got to do and need to know... > > The official questionnaire for the Let's Get To Know Each Other Issue Of > the Bible: > > 1) Real Name - Neil McAllister > 2) Birthday - March 16, 1973. Which makes me a Pisces. I am 6'3, 140 lbs (if I'm lucky), dark brown hair, dark brown eyes. A got a goatee just like the devil's got. Yes ladies, I'm tall, dark, and just handsome as FUCK -- at least my mom says so. :-) > 3) Where you got to school, what are you studying, and or where you work - I do computer systems consulting. I'm actually trying to lock down a new permanent gig doing systems administration for a design firm here in S.F., but that's not definate yet. I kinda bypassed much of the American education system, heh. :-S > 4) Other bands you like - You all may not believe it, but I like a pretty wide variety of bands and music. I will be honest, though. In my 3-disc CD changer right now are: CARCASS, "Heartwork"; DEATH, "Human"; and KATE BUSH, "Hounds of Love/The Seventh Wave". In the tape deck (but not on rotation right now) is MORBID ANGEL, "Blessed Are The Sick". I am a big RUSH fan, but not big enough to read that fucking Usenet newsgroup, that is wayy too much. I own CD box sets by THE MISFITS, LED ZEPPELIN, THE POLICE, and STEELY DAN. Back around the time I got into the MISFITS I was listening to BAD BRAINS, MINOR THREAT, the DEAD KENNEDEYS and G.B.H. Looking at this stack over here, I see CDs by PARLIAMENT, MIKE OLDFIELD, MILES DAVIS, DR. DRE, TOO $HORT, TOOL, and MATTHEW SWEET. You want more? > 5) What got you interested in the Misfits - Album covers. Believe it or not, by the time I heard METALLICA's $9.98 CD, my reaction was: "Huh. Never heard THOSE songs before..." I had also heard "Astro Zombies" on college radio and "Mommy..." at a record store in Berkeley, but it was a little while before I put all the pieces together and realized, "HOLY SHIT! This is that band I love!" > 6) What are your other interests - I always intended to be a comic book artist as a kid, but the comics market right now kinda makes me sick, and YES, Glenn Danzig's comics are total fucking trash just like the rest of it (sorry, Glenn -- you ain't no writer, nohow.) I'm trying to figure out a way to make my artwork more a part of my life, without having to be a slave to anybody else to do it. KEEP THIS ADVICE IN MIND ALWAYS, KIDDIES! I am a pretty fucking conservative dude, I go to work, I do a good honest job, I throw my full efforts into it and I never fuck over my employer... but I AM WARNING YOU -- the fastest way to come to HATE that thing which you LOVE MOST, is to make a JOB out of it! Luke, beware the path of the Dark Side! Get a day job and deal with it, but don't give up your dreams. Always keep something going on the side, that nobody else can take away from you. Maybe you'll never pay your rent just by playing the guitar, but some people will never even play a guitar, know what I'm saying? > 7) What is the last book you read - I read books, and I encourage everybody else to do so as well. Books are fucking cool, and I'm not just trying to come off like a public service announcement. I've read a lot of good books. I'll tell you what -- I never liked a single fucking book they made me read in high school. I thought all those teachers were full of shit, I thought their perspective on the books they were having us read was a crock, like they hadn't even thought about it, like they had read some book that told them what these other books were about and that's what they tried to teach us. I'll tell you what though, AFTER high school I went back on my own and read some of those books they were trying to shove down our throats, and some of them were really pretty good. Some of them I still think are full of shit, but that's MY judgement. The important thing to remember is to read them for yourself. YES, a lot of school is bullshit, but NO that doesn't mean learning is bullshit -- don't confuse some guy lecturing at you with learning. It's two totally different things, so don't pass up the opportunities to really learn some stuff for yourself, just because you're tired of people trying to "teach" you. Anyway, I seem to be preaching a lot tonight, so lemme just list some books I've read. Right now I'm reading Umberto Eco's "The Island of the Day Before". Eco is the genius, I think he's probably the best writer of the 20th century. Right before I started reading that, I read Cameron Crowe's book, "Fast Times at Ridgement High". This is actually a pretty hard book to find, you might have to track it down at a used book store or three. Now, I'm not going to say the book is better than the movie. Yep, the movie is better in some ways. But the book is pretty much funny as fuck, so you oughtta read it when you get the chance. Lemme think now... I been outta reading for a while, but I think before those two (and this was last year now) I read "The Turn of the Screw" by Henry James (creepy shit), and "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand. Both good. Now, that's just fiction though! I've also recently read "Networking the Macintosh" by Bill Woodcock, "Getting Into the Business of Comics" by Lurene Haines, and who knows how many magazine articles, newspapers, and stuff on the Internet. The more you read, the more you don't even notice you've picked up the habit. As Conan would say, "Enough talk!!" I'm outta here. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 07:55:46 -0400 From: jim "pissed off at Wes "too many nicknames" Thomas" Watson Subject: CG if your reading... Alright, i just wanted crimson ghost to know that he shouldn't fucking quit!! without you this will just be a bunch of losers flaming each other and arguing about whose more of a punk or some stupid shit. they just got to learn to have some respect these jerks that go around tring to impress people with their arguements get out of hand and i know that would piss the hell out of me, but shit if you just quit your just giving in, letting them have the last word. screw that, you gotta keep fighting because its only a handfull of people tring to be cool, the rest of us aren't even paying attention to that shit, i freaking scroll through the whole damn thing looking for 1 or 2 good things to read. and you know sometimes you gotta just laugh, i mean i went back and checked and you were right, so the kids a schmuck, big deal. let him have his little victory, but he's really just making himself look stupid, not you. a little debate can be good too, don't get me wrong, but there's a limit and people shouldn't cross it and they do, so what their the idiots not you. damn. don't quit man, that would be giving the person pleasure, just freaking mention their stupidity and then let it slide, I think everyone could learn a little just to relax a little, i don't see why people get pissed so quickly, just fucking let shit go, there's no use fighting ourselves we've been doing that for too long. sorry to grandstand, but you don't have to read it. jim ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: this list is getting bad Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:20:33 -0400 (EDT) i think it is pretty obvious that this list is becoming a bathroom wall for comments about who and what and all this whining bullshit. i just skimmed through some 1200 lines in about four minutes. know why? cause it is all turning into petty gossip. i've seen this happen to other lists. now, for real news, is anyone here (besides roger from Canada) going to be at the misfits show in CT at the subzero on may 6th? i would like to meet up with other fiends b4 the show and hangout or something. if so, write me at: obrien81@matrix.newpaltz.edu thanks, evan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 06:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: PRH Subject: Misfits Vs. Fuzztones (fwd) hey guys, this is a story i got from an old friend..thought you'd like to hear from an outsider once.... nrwidow@netcom.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:26:14 -0400 >From:Nitrohemi@aol.com >To: nrwidow@netcom.com >Subject: Misfits Vs. Fuzztones Here's the absolutely true story you requested: Back in the late '70s I was one of two roadies for a New York City band called "The Fuzztones". The Fuzztones were a moderately successful '60s garage punk revival band, popular enough to play around the Northeast regularly and record a few albums. A later version of the band toured Europe a couple of times. Anyway, in the band's early days we once got a gig opening for the Misfits at the legendary Max's Kansas City. That was a pretty prestigious place to play so one would have thought that the band would be excited about it. Instead, in the days before the show Rudi Protrudi, the Fuzztones' founder / singer / lead guitarist became increasingly apprehensive. Someone - I never learned who - had warned him that the Misfits were planning to beat up the Fuzztones. No one seemed to know exactly what had provoked this threat but since the Misfits had a reputation as real bad asses the Fuzztones took it seriously. Rudi called me daily for reassurance that I wouldn't let him get hurt. On the day of the show he was practically frantic with worry. In small clubs like Max's, the headliner does their soundcheck first, followed by the opening act. The other roadie - he's asked that I not post his name, as he's still in the business, so we'll call him "W" - and I arrived at the club just after the Misfits had finished. The Fuzztones had not shown up yet. Their strategy was to arrive for soundcheck at the last possible minute and thereby minimize the likelihood of encountering the dangerous Misfits. Max's was on the second floor, with no freight elevator, so all the amps and equipment had to be lugged up a steep flight of stairs. This extra work always put W and I in a foul mood. We carried a couple of Marshalls up and discovered that the Misfits had not cleared their equipment from Max's stage as was the usual practice. They had merely left a small area in front of their gear for us. The Misfits started to leave and I yelled at them, "Where the hell do you think you're going? Move your equipment now or I'll do it for you, and you won't like what happens to it". The club grew quiet and Max's staff gaped at the confrontation, expecting violence. I'm 6' 2" and W is about the same, but a couple of the Misfits were big guys too. We looked at each other for about a heartbeat, and then suddenly the fearsome Misfits became completely servile. They turned and almost ran back to stage; while they moved their gear they kept apologizing and asking "Is this OK here?" and "Do you have enough room now?" When I was satisfied I told them they could go. After the Fuzztones' soundcheck W and I went to a nearby Burger King and bought dinner. We took it back to the Fuzztones' dressing room, which adjoined the Misfits' room. The wall seperating the dressing rooms didn't go all the way to the ceiling, instead there was a gap of a foot or two at the top. W and I could hear the Misfits talking on the other side of the wall. W got a mischevious look on his face. He didn't like pickles and had built up a small pile of pickle slices that he'd taken off his burgers. He picked one up, flipped it over the wall, and was rewarded with a surprised "Hey!" from the other side. W and I then tossed the rest of the slices, the wrappers, a half - eaten burger and any other garbage we could find over the wall, while the Misfits whined "Hey you guys, cut it out!" in voices that resembled Pee Wee Herman's most craven squeal. To be fair to the Misfits, I must note that they did make some really nasty faces at W and I later that evening. The Fuzztones were never touched. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:05:39 -0700 (PDT) From: PRH Subject: the misfits and me pt II as minnie pearl would say (if she werent wormchow, that is) howDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: hey! come back, CG! remember: rocknroll=sound and fury signifying nothing... aon1:rightrightright..jonathan f. kennedy it is. (thank god, the other was just tooooo dumb.) EAD: welcome back, as a great man once said in bible 164 i think open minds are good to have. and to everybody who says Bobby is a hypocrite because he now says good things about the Misfits and didnt at first, well i guess none of you saints out there ever said something you didnt especially mean because you were pissed off. Congratulations. and while i find Wes Thomas' idea of the kiddie hats appealing, i must say that unless a Bible tshirt came in a small size, like a kids xlarge or mens 32, i would never wear one, because i hate this big oversized style. If i want to wear a dress, i will wear pearls and heels too. these people going around in t shirts that 3 of you could fit in remind me of kindergarteners playing dress up with daddys clothes. (my apologies to all you handsome hunks o'fiendhood who fill out an XL nicely...its just that i am slightly built and so is every one else i know except a couple rockroll types named Caiafa...) okay on to part II...so I knew of the Misfits and had seen em a few times, but i didnt know any of them personally until one day, around 5 am Howie comes stomping in in his frankenstein boots with a straggler which he was wont to do...and dont jump to any conclusions, this was cool with me, i gave floor space to anyone in need. But when you are sound asleep dreaming about being stalked by Harvey Keitel (sigh) the last thing in the world you want is to be awakened by two giggling baboons listening to the Banana Splits at earshattering level. So I JERKED up off the mattress and SCREAMED at Howie! What the FUCK is going on here! Turn the sonomabitch DOWN! and I looked over at him and his companion and it was Glenn Danzig.. whom I glared at with total hate and yelled WHO IN THE FUCK INVITED YOU? even tho i knew it ws howie, i was just in such a bad mood. And he stammered listen, I live in Jersey I cant get back til later in the morning and Howie said...and I just waved them off and buried my head under the pillow and tried to get back to sleep. Needless to say we didnt exactly hit it off, but gradually --because we were just thrown together in so many instances, like the one at the Gramercy Diner, where the neverwillbes gather--we got to be friends, but not really good friends til they played at Hurrah with the Damned. I am not sure exactly what it was, possibly my intriguing jacket with Charles Manson glaring from the back panel, but after that Glenn, Jerry and I got to be really friendly. Had a good time, as OJ would say. more later...... p r h ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::: :::: :::: patricia ragan hoehner :::: :::: nrwidow@netcom.com :::: :::: :::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "pounding out deserved pain to anyone in need"...see, I do quote Glenzig sometimes...now THATS poetry, Henry Garfield! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:07:27 +0100 From: Wolverine-j Subject: I hear Ya......... Hi, Long ago since my last post, I have just a few guestions/remarks. Does someone know, how many of the "I hear Ya"-Sampler cd with Teenagers from mars were pressed. Zillions or ten thousands? If someone is willing to trade it for some other misfits-stuff, I have a still sealed copy, mail me. The Nike story in Devilman #3, I don`t think Glenn had anything to do with it. The Devilman serie is just reissued in color and English instead of Japanese. BTW someone out there who has a fairly-priced Verotika #1 for sale? Thanx, Wolverine-j. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:24:21 -0700 From: toto Subject: Just a little hello from a french sucker fan fond of danzig I am sending my greeetings to Glenn "The Great And The Dark" Danzig and I hope he'll execrate those few lines from France. I ain't someone fond of soccer (like most of the astonishingly stupid french people) and I prefer playing on my old B.C RICH Bitch tracks as "When Death Had No Name", "Halloween", "How The Gods Kill",..... I know not of any darker and oppressive record than Danzig III. I hope that Glenn Danzig will change his mind one of these days and that he'll come back in France to play a few songs. I am through with my message. Best wishes from France. "The bright day is done, And we are for the dark." Shakespeare ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:18:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Legion Subject: Manimals EP Greetings, fiends. A few days after the news about the BLOOD IS THE HARVEST ep's availability was posted, I sent in my $15 for the vinyl and it's postage. I received my copy yesterday along with many photocopied MANIMALS flyers from the olden days, with an attached personal letter by Mr.Wolf informing me that he would be making an appearance with the Misfits on May 12th in Cleveland. I ordered the ep thinking that the Manimals were just another horror influenced band- but quickly learned how devastating their music was! FIENDS- if you have not yet sent in your $$ for BLOOD IS THE HARVEST- I encourage you to waste no time! Mr.Wolf's address can be found on the web page as well in a past Bible issue! Outside your window, Legion (we are many) ------------------------------ From: mf252888@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Declaration... As a member of the #misfits, and Misfits Bible family, I'd just like to declare my unfaltering, ever-present, and most respectful love for CrmsnGhst!! Personally, and I think that CG would agree with me here, the world would be a better place if more people did this. Flames to this post are welcome and expected. In closing I would like to suggest that any fiends who don't find this humorous, should go out to their nearest corner store, and purchase themselves lives, which include a complimentary sample of a sense of humor. (I'm sure these are available for both IBM and Macs...) Give it a try you just might like it... ;) fiendishly yours, nike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 96 18:48:57 EDT From: Ralphus Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #165 Hey Fiends Well Its been a really long time since I posted a lot of stuff been goin on ya know life. Anyway Just wanted to make a tally of how many people are making the Asbury Park show? I'll be there definatly. Anyway I to have the box set (I got it at the Generation Records Signing), I like it though I haven't listned to it much, I don't want it's value to go down a lot, I definitly have to place my money on cd's 3,4 actually three over 4 four is a masterpeice, but disk3 three shows the Misfits grappling with the songs and shaping them, transforming them into what will be released. Also here's my two cents on the bible t-shirt. Regular sleeves (I don't like long sleeve, even though I have a couple, including the legacy of brutality long sleeve), with either the Crimson ghost on a computer screen or the Crimson ghost sitting at a computer, I think that it's more honest. It's what we are after all fiends with computer skills. -Mozzer ------------------------------ From: Mike Schneir Subject: ... Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Hello all, I've been reading the Bible since about 106, but this is the first time writing to it, unfortunately to flog an old subject: that's right - punk. When I was growing up in the 70's and 80's, punk didn't mean "eating the rich and elite and spitting their remains out in the gutter" or whatever. And it didn't mean rebelling against everything. It simply meant not bowing to or relying on society, government, or anyone. It meant doing your own thing, even if that meant agreeing with government or dressing like "them", so long as IT WAS WHAT YOU WANTED AS AN INDIVIDUAL. Go to college, get a degree, be successful, it's okay! Just DO IT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO, not because you are expected to. Of course, since the government and society is shitty, there's gonna be dissent and a need for change, and that was part of it too. When I hear of shit like the "punks" on the Dole in England it makes me laugh. They're relying on the government for money!! But maybe all this has changed, and it just means "Do the opposite of what the mainstream/government/society does." In that case it really is dead. Sorry, waste of space. Warhammer said: "I love Music and don't give a shit about what record company released it." I agree mostly (Bach was a musical genious, and he wrote for the nobility and the Church). I try to judge the music by the music, and the lyrics based on what they say to me, not who said them. I definitely believe in supporting small labels though. And paying too much for a record does suck (though I've done it). >From: "Laura Pleasants [12]" >To some guy, WES THOMAS: I am a girl. I am into the Misfits. And I >am fucking hot. This has to be the single most beautiful, concise, and poetic (rhythm, meter, etc) reply I have seen in the fifty-some-odd Bibles I have read! I don't know why, it's just perfect. Right on! I've seen plenty of "hot" women who like the Misfits. When Wes's big brother finds out he's been using his account, he's gonna be pissed. Oh yeah, I'm 27 and have been listening to the Misfits since about '86, I think (I got into Samhain first). But until subscribing to the Bible, I knew very little about them (other than Glenn), I just loved their music, and got a kick out of their lyrics/image. For me, "unveiling the mystery" is fun. Thanks to Mark, Gouge, Gene, Paul, Ace and Peter for the Misfits Bible. Sorry for the huge first post. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:20:12 -0400 From: "Horror Businessman." Subject: Armbands Hey you Is there any progress on the armband project. I know the just got back from Europe and will be heading out soon, but has anyone heard anything? Also, I am desparately seeking Collection 2 on clear vinyl. If anyone has extra ones or wish to sell theirs, I'd be happy to pay a good sum. PLEASE... I like the Misfit boxer idea. Good call Wes. Keep the shirt idea simple. No 3435 color shirt with an MC Escher sketch. One or two colors with a simple design. So far the ones on the page are pretty good. I will not be able to sleep until I see the Misfits live. Aaron ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:24:46 EDT Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #165 Hey this goes to all the fucks who are dissin Rancid and GreenDay. First of all, with the exception of the new green day album, insomniac, I absolutely LOVE EVERYTHING buy Rancid amd greenday, no matter how much of sell outs they are, and they are to an extent, they are both amazing PUNK ROCK bands..fuck you all. next-everyone should nuy my bands new demo, we just spent $450 recording 4 new songs..we are a mix of NOFX,bouncing souls,lagwagon, and screeching weasel...its only $2 ppd, so help out my band please!!! please buy our demo for $2 to: adam kriney 36 jackson street #2 long branch, nj 07740 anyone who bought anything from me, its already in the mail!! as for my music tastes:10,000 maniancs,slayer,nofx,lagwagon,propaghandi, green day, rancid,most ska stuff,snuff,guns n wankers, metallica,youth of today,GB,Vision of Disorder,Ignite,Shelter,Carcass,Obituary,Samuel, Texas is the reason,Bouncing souls,screeching weasel,weston,samhain, the undead,danzig,misfits,honeywell,Fury of Five,H2O,Dog eat Dog, biohazard,queers,riverdales,the marshes,.......... bye dorks- oh yeah, i jusy need to remind you all that sXe rules the world, I rule the world, sXe will conquer all, if the Misfits don't turn sXe and start to cover Minor Threat songs, I am never gonna listen to them again..Oh you cant beat me either, cause I am STRAIGHT EDGE BITCHES..... goatboy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 23:06:48 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: where are your good answers... Hi fiends, well things have been great so far, in 2 days 36 of you have replied with your answers, not bad. Even Bobby Steele's answers came in the first night. though some of you left out bits and pieces, and i don't have the time to e-mail everyone( it's not that i don;t want to but i have one week left of school and have to complete 6 images for my portfolio - you will understand come next monday) so this is what i need: El Phantasmo - i need what you are majoring in college. gerry blaylock - samething EvilDieff@aol.com - what year were you born Jaymz666@aol.com - what the name of the school you go to Ken Graf - what was the last book you read UJCCURRY@MSUVX1.MEMPHIS.EDU - what's your birthday - you only gave a year mark@rags.demon.co.uk - what year were you born Bile666@aol.com - what is your real name - and yes i do know my x-files trivia i also got some suggestions for more questions, like: > From: UJCCURRY@MSUVX1.MEMPHIS.EDU > Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:14:18 -0600 (CST) > Subject: other question I think another good question might be what other bands(or movies, whatever) would you recomend to other fiends. Just a thought. jamil and > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:14:19 -0500 > From: Jolanta C Biniek > Subject: misfits survey hey, what about our favorite movie? Bloodfeast... duh :) neat survey, lets see, there are more than 500 people on this list, lets see how many replies you get! -j.c.b. that would be cool, but it will have to come on another one of these question answer deals. I do have to say after reading these as they came in that we have an amazing bunch of people here. We are made up of many professionals, have a varied taste in music beyond the typical 4 ( Misfits, Samhain, Danzig and the Undead), lots of different interests. So come on you slow pokes, i know there are hundreds of people that have not sent theirs in. As for age, it doesn't matter - there are some 14 year olds and some of us that are up there, ie. late 20's - up to - 40. So please give all the info. So keep sending them in you have till sunday night when i have to get it all put together for Mark. E-MAIL TO: tes777@bridge.net Hope to see you in my e-mail box, till friday tes777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 167 Friday, April 19th 1996 Today's Topics: To sk8er Vampira cd glenn/contradictions Re: Misfits Bible, #166 Age 138 Re-Revisited Re: Misfits Bible, #166 Re: Misfits Bible, #166 Re: Misfits Bible, #166 Re: Misfits Bible, #166 misfits sightings... #166 similar to Stupid people...aargh! two things Boxset Crap-up THE NEW BIBLE Kryst the Conqueror ozzy,danzig/black sabbath,misfits NO Not again Get to know me... stuff t-shirts and fellow fiendies various things Cain Re: Misfits Bible, #166 I'm Back, New List to Bobby old school To Wes 'cocksucker' Thomas misfits in scotland Opus is the superior cocksucker Last Issue Uh, Whatever GOOD BUDDYs and PunK RoCkl!!! punk:goofus or gallant? HAPPY BIRTHDAY JERRY ONLY! Wesley Thomas Oh Yeah one more thing......... Please Read This! Not another box set post Another day and another bible... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 23:11:20 -0500 From: "jschulz@inwave.com" Subject: To sk8er <>I was talking in #misfits and all of the sudden this dick head named <>metalfan kicked me off for no fuckin reason. So I came back the next <>day <>to talk and I was on the ban list. What the fuck's up with that. <>-- That was not any of the ops. Someone must have taken over the channel duing a netsplit or something. Metalfan is not a channel op, nor will he ever be. I checked the banlist and you are not on it. At least not noe. Sorry for whatever happened, and I will check in to it. -- 20Eyes #Misfits Undernet channel OP us.undernet.org All Fiends WELCOME! See ya there! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 23:06:48 From: Hellhound Subject: Vampira cd Hey fiends!!! Just wanted to share something with you all. I got a misfits bootleg cd yesterday. It is called Misfits: Vampira. On the cover is a skull that is so close to CG it is pathetic. the tracks go like this: 1. Halloween 2. 20 eyes 3. Martian 4. Horror B 5. Vampira 6. Mommy? 7. London 8. Attitude 9. Teenagers (Bobby Steele lyrics) 10. NOTLD 11. All Hell 12. Hate Breeders 13. Bullet 14. 138 15. Last Caress 16. Horror Hotel 17. Ghouls 18. 20 eyes 19. Martian 20. Astro Zombies 21. Vampira 22. All Hell 23. Nike 24. Devil's Whorehouse 25. Horror B 26. Teenagers 27. Children 28. Skulls 29. Nike 30. Eagles 31. Demonomania 32. Wolfsblood. Most of the titles are right, I wrote them in short form for time reasons. The only title mistakes are: Astro Zombies is missing the last s, Skulls is spelled skuls, and wolfsblood is 2 words Wolf's Blood. Tracks 1-17 are from Passaic NJ on Feb 25, 1981. Tracks 18-24 are the Ambionic Recording Sessions in late 1981. Tracks 25-27 are from New York 1979. And tracks 28-32 are from Drearborn MI on Jan 7 1983. The first set of tracks sound excellent. Track 9 is the Bobby Steele alt. lyrics where Glenn sings "Bobby Steele's an asshole fucking cunt" and so on. Bullet is real cool because before they play it Glenn says "If you don't know this one, what the fuck are ya doin' here". The second section is very cool. The version of Nike as some wierd keyboard goin' on in it. The third section does not sound very good. The fourth section sounds absolutley terrible. There is alot of echo that gets in the way. The cd is very cool and if you see it you should pick it up. Does anyone else have this cd?? do, you know something about it that I don't?? By the way Mark if and when the bible shirts come out, I am interested in them and would buy one. See ya Hellhound "I've got what you need Your hunger I will sleek." ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:59:17 -0500 (EST) First I want to say that I relly like Lauren's design for the shirt. It is simple, yet gets your attention-just like the misfits music does. A Question: has anyone else besides me been recieving harrassing mail from wes thomas? i am sick and tired of it. Has anyone here ever recieved any type of hate mail at any time for wes thomas? Sincerely, Adam Seven ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:32:02 -0400 From: ackxhpaez Subject: glenn/contradictions mark, you know i think yr a nice guy and all but you must realize that your notion of glenn "never contradict(ing)" himself is false. need i point to the whole situation with the "mother" video ('88 vs. '95) ??? mw ps....lets keep the posts short, pls. ------------------------------ From: Zoltar Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #166 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:39:17 -0400 (EDT) First of all fiends, if possible - send Misfits Bible messages to misfits@virginia.edu and messages for me to msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu - It's getting hard to deal with all the different messages and sometimes I end up personally answering stuff that was meant for the bible. Thanks. > From: Richard Duran > mark, > several issues ago, you made a request for lyrics to "in the doorways", > "harpies in the night", "feline nursery" and possible some others. just > who were those questions addressed to? i'd imagine there are people on > this list who actually saw the 'fits circa that time, but i'd also imagine > that you know who they are. of course, you might not. just curious anyway. Nope, I was just asking people to make some lyrics up. Jerry has told me the chorus lyrics and I thought it would be interesting to see how people guessed the rest of the stuff would go. As for old shows, PRH saw the Misfits first on this list '78 followed by Bobby when he joined the band a month later. > From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.aonline.com > Umm...Oh yea. If Mephisto Waltz is a Samhain song why is it on > the Box set?? Another thing...Why are ALL songs credited to being > written by Glenn Danzig if Ratt Fink is a cover song?? MW - It was written during the Misfits but recorded after The Misfits. So it's a Misfits song, just no a Misfits recording. Rat Fink lyrics credit to Glenn - just an accident I suppose. > From: ChristoTer@aol.com > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:22:18 -0400 > Subject: Steele's right! > > Fiends, > > You know I've always forget to post this, but Mr. Steele made a brilliant > comment last bible. Why is it all the new Misfits shirts have just Jerry and > Doyle? I've seen the European tour flyer and it has all four of them....why > don't the shirts have the four? I'll tell you why. The shirts that have been sold up until now were made before Halloween when the 'new' members were officially announced. Before that time they hadn't publicly announced Michale and Chud as members. > From: Wolverine-j > Subject: I hear Ya......... > Long ago since my last post, I have just a few guestions/remarks. > Does someone know, how many of the "I hear Ya"-Sampler cd with Teenagers > from mars were pressed. Zillions or ten thousands? If someone is willing > to trade it for some other misfits-stuff, I have a still sealed copy, mail On the web page - 6900 copies pressed in August of '95. > From: "Horror Businessman." > Subject: Armbands > Hey you > Is there any progress on the armband project. I know the just got back from > Europe and will be heading out soon, but has anyone heard anything? No progress. The band is busy touring. I'll have the info when there is progress. mark ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.aonline.com Date: 16 Apr 1996 21:18:18 EDT Subject: Age I too am 14...lots of people have told me to leave other boards/mailing lists/newsgroups. I never asked them to stop making fun of me because of my age, that always seemed pathetic. chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:37:34 -0700 From: John-Jacob-Jinglehiemer-Schmidt Subject: 138 Re-Revisited Fellow Fiends, This posting is in response to Ben Todd's posting about the number 138 (in reference to "We are 138"). The song is about the movie "THX 1138" which was the first movie George Lucas (of American Graffiti, Star Wars, and Raiders of the Lost Ark fame) directed. The film stars Robert Duvall and was made in 1970. It is about a future where the government feeds the workers drugs all day (it is a crime NOT to take the sedatives) while they make robots. The main character's name (actually his designation, humans don't have names) is THX 1138. With the help of his companion/mate/wife LUH 3417, he eventually breaks his addiction and escapes only to come back to the city on his own. I like to think of it as a "1984" society meshed with "Blade Runner" technology. Most video stores have a copy. A lot of postings ask about the background of bible members, so I will give my story here. I am a Computer Programmer that lives in Davis, California. I am 26 years old, have been listening to "PUNK" since 1978 and have been listening to the Misfits for about 10 years. I got into The Misfits because of my interest in Punk rock. I hate to use labels but when I mean Punk rock I mean the circa 1976 Punk rock. I include bands like The Damned, The Avengers, The Stooges, Sex Pistols, Subway Sect, The Clash, The Ramones, The Stranglers, etc in this genre. Although I have been exposed to a lot of hardcore punk, I don't have a taste for it with the exception of the Minutemen. I like The Misfits's material up to and including, "Walk Among Us". I realize the group moved on with their sound (especially with Earth AD) and respect that even though I choose to only listen to their earlier material. I honestly believe that if "Static Age" had been released right after it was recorded that it would be held with the same regard as "Never Mind the Bullocks...". After receiving my box set, "Static Age" quickly became my favorite Punk album of all time. Besides Punk, I listen to jazz, ska, funk, classical, folk, KISS (up until 'Love Gun"), and some rap. - Criswell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:43:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scumfuck" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #166 This one is to Jolanta, gg was on the jerry springer show back in i think like 90-91. The show is floating around among traders. I haven't seen it yet, but i have seen it on a lot of lists. Still don't know if he ever played with the misfits, anybody know? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:47:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scumfuck" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #166 hey adam not to sound like i am flaming you, but i am on this one. Sounds like you need to go back to theatre class. Phantom of the opera is a very old play , can't remember who wrote it but it was way before the 1920's. maybe somebody does remeber when it came out, and who wrote it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:58:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scumfuck" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #166 Kriney, it isn't that greenday and rancid suck, just they aren't as good as the people that they steal their music off from here is a hint as to who to go listen to i f you want more originality green day-go try the ramones and the sex pistols (they were both early commerci al punk) and they are much better then green day in every aspect. as for rancid i couldn't take it after hearing that ruby soho song i was thingk king that michael monroe should sue their asses off for ripping off hanoi rocks . that is my personal gripe is that very few of the new punk bands can put out st uff that rivals the originals. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:27:29 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #166 OK OK OK, I THOUGHT I WAS THE GUY YOU LOVED TO HATE, BUT I GUESS NOT. I WILL SHUT UP FROM HERE ON. NO MORE SILLY FLAMES. WELL, EXCEPT THIS ONE WHICH IS REALLY NOT A FLAME, JUST A QUESTION. WHO EVER IT IS WHO HAS "FREE THE UNABOMBER! ONE MAN'S TERRORIST IS ANOTHER MAN'S FREEDOM FIGHTER" IS EITHER REALLY FUNNY OR IGNORANT TO WHAT THE UNABOMBER STANDS FOR. YOU SEE, HE DOESN'T LIKE INDUSTRY. TO TYPE THIS MESSAGE ON A COMPUTER , THE ULTIMATE INDUSTRIAL DEVICE, IS A CONTRADICTION IN ITSELF. SERIOUSLY, COME ON BACK CG. I WILL SHUT UP IF YOU DO. WES"I'M TIRED OF PISSING EVERYONE OFF"THOMAS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:06:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "misfits inc..." Subject: misfits sightings... hey fiends.. just a couple of misfit sightings i've had over the past week... well, I got one of those rock catalogs with all the t-shirts in them, plus other shit, and the lead singer of rage against the machine is wearing a misfits..leagacy of brutality shirt (of course the album that's 100% glenn right..) no really. and also, about the bible t-shirts.. I think that's a good idea to have the members listed. that would be cool. another sighting I saw isn't really a misfits sighting, but it has to do with the horror flick astro zombies. I got a really cool catalog put out by Anti (maybe some of you know what i'm talking about) and they have t-shirts, 7" singles (but no misfits shit.. anyway..just had to babble about that shit.. talk to you all later Breck ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:01:25 -0400 From: Zodiac Subject: #166 Fiends, Just a couple of comments: This whole punk/not punk arguement is getting out of hand (as well as the spin-off sold out/didn't sell out arguement). I don't know about the rest of you, but as a mature, free-thinking adult I am quite capable of making up my own mind and frankly I DON'T GIVE A SHIT! With pathetic (yes, pathetic) arguements like this one, it is little wonder why CG left. Whether you agree with his opinions or not, HIS posts were at least informative, unlike this ridiculous arguement about major labels and communist ideals. Mark: Any news on the Samhain Box? There may have been a reply last bible, but I skimmed through 65% of it. Someone asked what everyone's favorite movie is. Mine's gotta be Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. If you haven't seen it, get it. As for books, some of my faves are American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis, anything by Joe Lansdale, Kiss the Girls (forget the author), anything by Micheal Slade (Ghoul, Ripper, Headhunter), Mob Star: The Story of John Gotti and Murder Machine: A Tale of Murder, Madness, and the Mafia both by Gene Mustaine and Jerry Capeci, and mostly anything on the paranormal (alien abductions, hauntings, demonic possession, etc.). The Ultimate Evil by Maury Terry was also good. Later, Zodiac ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:58:51 +0600 From: rlammey Subject: similar to Twist of Cain sounds almost exactly like Led Zeppelin's "In My Time Of Dying." Don't worry though cause Page probably ripped off some blues singer/guitarist from the 50's-60's. If you have never listened to good blues - do it. It is what everything is based on. Check out some Clapton or Zeppelin and you will see credits in their liner notes about old blues musicians. Everybody rips off somebody and I don't mind as long as it's good and not obvious on every song. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:33:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Geoff Wilson CG -- Sorry to hear you're leaving. Your posts were often very insightful, and I thank you for your contributions. Bobby Steele -- Woah! You are so right on in the political arena. I'm so sick of so-called "rebels" taking up the banner of the most safely conventional causes! What could be less radical than rallying against "big business," "major lables," etc? It's been the same old standard, boring, idiotic bromides from everyone on the left for over a hundred years now. I get bombarded with that stuff daily here at law school, and I just wanted to thank you for making a contribution that reflected some thinking and insight, and not merely knee-jerk sloganeering. I can understand why some people don't like major labels, in the sense that they mass market the music we may love, and share it with people with whom we would rather not associate. It seems like throwing pearls before swine. On the other hand, major lables make the music available to legions of new people who may end up really loving it too. Dislike of majors may be a personal thing for some people, but please don't try to demonize them for trying to maximize their profits; they are not villains or part of any corrupt, weird conspiracy bent on world domination. They are merely the most effective way of distributing music to a mass audience; they are, in effect, what the market (i.e., you and I and everyone else) has created by demand. Cordially, Geoff ------------------------------ From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:14:42 +0100 Subject: Stupid people...aargh! Well lots of people seem to be complaining about how the Bible is going downhill, too many idiots with personality problems, too many pointless arguments etc. What to do? IGNORE THE FUCKERS! I don't think anyone should be excluded from the list, but the easy way round dealing with the idiots is to just NOT DEAL WITH THEM! It's that easy! There's still enough people with worthwhile things to say, so concentrate on them and let the idiots slag off each other. Fair enough if there's a personal attack on you, then you'll obviously want to reply, but why give credibility to cretins by even replying to their nonsensical posts? Also, many people are complaining about threads that aren't completely Misfits related...can I suggest not reading the stuff that doesn't interest you?! Not everything in each Bible interests me, but I'm not gonna say it shouldn't be there just 'cos *I* don't like it. I wouldn't say there's *that* much that strays from the Misfits path...most of it (like the interesting "punk" debate that's currently happening) does have a link to the 'Fits, though maybe not as big a one as some would like. Actually, reading 100x"Just got the box set and it kicks ass" is pretty boring to me, but fuck it, if that's what someone else on the Bible wants to read then good luck to them...that's their choice and I'm not gonna want it taken away. Why do so many people say they don't wanna hear about this or that...what's going on...afraid you might learn something? So, to the people with brains that actually work, it's up to you (us?!) to keep the Bible a good read. The braindeads will soon get bored with the lack of reaction and will (hopefully) move on elsewhere. Oi Oi, that's yer lot...Gingoblin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:09:04 From: Hellhound To Chris (the other cg): Hey man settle down. Why are there so many hostile people here? So what if I quoted metallica and didn't say? I was trying to see if anyone knew what it was. Congratulations, you were the first and only to figure out that "Deep inside I know. These seeds I plant will grow" is from Metallica's new song "Devil Dance". I was just trying to create some mystery but if your gonna call me names go ahead, but I prefer dickhead to asshole. Let's be civil for a moment, Metallica is my favorite band and if I offended a fellow Metallica fan I apologize. So how did you know that song, are you also from the Metallica club? I am a third year member. Keep rockin' and try to keep it in you pants next time. People were disscusing Glenn's attitude towards towrds the lyrics. Bobby made a good point. Here is my 2 cents. Kirk Hammett of Metallica once talked to glenn about it and here is what Glenn said "I Just want them to try and figure it out by themselves, and, more importantly, to keep them curious and hungry for more." To Bruce Lee: I don't know about shifter, but Glenn seems to have a habit of covering his own songs and renaming them. For ex. All Hell Breaks Loose is covered by Samhian but is listed as "All Hell" on Final Descent (great version!!), same for Horror Business listed as "Horror Biz" on Initium. To rlammey: ENTOMBED RULES!!! Just a thought on the Wes problem. Ignore him! If he picks on you ignore him. If you respond it will only make it worse. See ya Hellhound ------------------------------ From: KENNEY@salem.wvnet.edu Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: two things Two things: 1. Do comp nerds (I mean the ones who sleep by a computer.. I mean, after all, aren't all of us comp nerds?) all refuse to bathe? You wanna talk to a smell that comes ripping come to my lovely campus of Salem-Teikyo University and I'll show you all of the smelly out of shape bastards and their famous foul odor here in the lab. All for $50 (I wouldn't charge a fellow fiend too much, see?) `2. Anybody read the interview with Danzig in Rolling Stone, I think it was from early '94. Last time I was on the page I don't remember seeing it posted there. Anyway it's one of my fave interviews w/him....and better yet Beavis and Butthead are on the cover. In the article he talks a lot about his martial arts. He said he has known Thai Boxing but had recently taken up Jeet Kune Do. I study the arts too & I always thought this was cool. Anyone know if he does any other styles? You guys might not care but I always found it pretty interesting. I've thought it would be cool to see a martail arts movie starring danzig just ripping the fuck out of people. Kinda like segal, just bigger.....and both of them are smart-asses at heart (aren't we all?). For that matter, let's get Danzig in the Ultimate Fighting Championships. HE could fight that Royce Gracie guy and just break his spine. While I'm on this..somebody posted there ideas for a Bible convention...add a fighting championship.... get a ring & I'll take you all on (just kidding I'm not that cocky). The Grand match could be CG versus Wes Thomas. Standing room only, folks! Enough banter. Final word: everyone go find the movie SUPER NINJAS (it's from hong kong....yes it's kung fu). Watch it and then thank me. You all take carem, Joe "baka" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 21:28 +0100 From: Peter Moeller Subject: Boxset Crap-up Hi fiends, I have a major problem with my boxset - no, not two pins or anything cool like that - it's pretty fucked up. On disc 2 the tracks 15 to 20 (from 'Evilive') sound really shitty. The vocals sound like someone sampled and replayed them as a lo-fi wav-file through some cheap pc-speakers!! Has anybody experienced anything like that? I mean, I know how it should sound 'cause we all know it from the vinyl version of the LP. So I went to the store to explain the situation, but the guy looked at the disc (he mumbled something like "...no visible scratches = no exchange..."), listened to the tracks ("...whats the prob, maybe they wanted it to sound like that... has it been remastered..?) but just told me that he couldn't hear or see any errors and therefore couldn't exchange the disc. He also rolled his eyes when he saw the logo 'The Misfits' on the box, now that meant that he probably expected it to sound crappy or looked at it as a bootleg 'cos it was a live recording - "...how do I know that they didn't put some practice sessions trash on it..?" - dickhead !!! Anyway, I left disappointed and I'm wondering if anyone else knows what I'm talking about or if Caroline's would even exchange it though they never heard it and I could be a liar ?? Yeah right, I'm in Germany wich means I'd probably have to wait for a month or so to get the disc back... Whatever, abc ya. Peter NO$482 ------------------------------ From: HBKBOBA@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:24:36 -0400 Subject: THE NEW BIBLE I have a great idea for Mark. A new MisFiTs Bible that will piss off no one! No opinions! It'll look like this... Todays Subjects: -------------------------- ... New MisFiTs update!!! ... (ect...) Just a joke guys. Aside from MisFiTs info, opinions is what this thing is about, right? Don't get so pissed. To Bruce Lee: Black Aria and Danzig II are my favorite albums ever!! Anyhow, I'll be seeing the MisFiTs 5/11/96!!!! It'll either suck or kick major ass! I'm voting for the ass thing. By the by, do they still spray paint peoples jackets? 'Cause I really want them to do that! HBK Bob Ayotte (coming soon to a breakfast table near you..."Only O's!"...the only O's with Jerry on the box!!!) ------------------------------ From: REAGANPR@jmu.edu Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:00:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Kryst the Conqueror Okay, I have a copy of Kryst the Conqueror on CD, so if anyone wants it give me an offer. Ill throw in a new misfits t-shirt for another $10 it was only worn once. pat ------------------------------ From: CPERSL@acd.mhc.ab.ca Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:51:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: ozzy,danzig/black sabbath,misfits last year i turned down the chance to see blacksabbath, motorhead opening why would i want to see 1 guy from the original band? if i want to hear sabbath songs live i could go watch some cheeseball coverband try and play sabbath. i just bought ozzy tix for june 9 in calgary, has anyone seen this ozmosis tour?? it should be a rocker. as for the misfits, even though they have few original members and no danzig, seeing a band play misfits songs with the fury and intensity that has been described on the bible, would be incredible. i don't think danzig has been to calgary, maybe the misfits should 1up him and play here this summer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:52:36 -0400 (EDT) From: John Greenwell Subject: NO Not again This is my first time posting, so i will make some general observations... Mark-Great job, it just rokks that the Misfits have such a strong presence on the Internet, Keep up the good work CG- don't go, this bible needs more people like you who know what their talking about, not people who are just looking for a venue to overcompensate for their small dicks, you rock, you're one of the few people here who keep things grounded, if you leave, those cocksucker will take over the bible and ruin it for all of us Wes and the others fuck-ups-You guys all suck, granted i probably don't know any more that all of you, but i don't go running my mouth off at every turn, you people are givin the rest of us a bad name. And here's a little tip for you.. hit the toilet right before you post so you won't get shit all over everything you say john g. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:18:15 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Get to know me... Well, as usual, I've decided to put my 2 cents in. In response to the get to know you questions: (am I the only one who thinks of John Lovits when I hear this?) 1) Eric Raymond Koeppen 2) Born June 19, 1977, in Brendisi, Italy. Funny thing is that I'm not even a little Italian... 3) I attend Texas Tech University, in Lubbock, Texas. I study Electrical Engineering right now, but I don't know how long I'll be able to stick with it... 4) Other bands? Now that's a tough one.... I'll start from the beginning, it's a very good place to start...:) I was raised on Beach Boys, 4 Tops, Billy Joel, Jim Croce, Olivia Newton John, Linda Evens, Blondie, and other oldie/eighties stuff I can't really remember. I was a mainstream hip hop convert by 4th grade, with Ton Loc, Run DMC, LL Cool J, and the Fat Boys. By 7th grade, it was Vanilla Ice, C+C music factory, ABC, and MC Hammer but I was still into Billy Joel somewhat and Chicago 19. By high school, I was getting a lot bored with hip hop and it's stupidity. I heard a friend of mine's older brother play a tape of Violent Femmes, I loved the tape, but I never actually got into it. A friend of mine was into heavy metal, and hard rock. From there I found out about Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, Motorhead, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Sepultura, GnR, and a bunch of others. Sophomore year I got into punk *see #5*, starting with the 'fits. I also got into Danzig at the same time, unknowing of the connection. I got more into punk, then more into metal, and recently I've been picking upa lot more punk. I was also into alternative for a while, but I'm still now sure if I'll get back into the scene. I'm in the process of trying to find out what I like. Before I was always under someone else's guidance when it came to music. I'm trying to find out what I like for myself, not letting genre or what my friends think affect my opinion. I've since picked up Jim Croce again, Hank Williams Sr, some blues, some oldies, Misfits of Ska, and a bunch of others. ********Sorry this is dragging on so long, but i"d be here an*********** ********hour if I tried to list all of the bands i'm into*************** to sum it all up: I"m trying to listen to as much as I can and decide what it is that I really like. I'm sure misfits is one of them, and pretty sure about danzig and Samhain. 5) This one's gonna be a story too. Okay... My parents are in the air force, I move all of the time. I went to 3 high schools. Sophomore year I was at another high school. I got there and was bereft of friends, I kind of wanted to fit in. I saw my first 2 (and maybe only) true, hard core punk rock girls. They were decked out in the shirts, the docks, the black lipstick, and they were pretty cool to boot. I never got to know them well. I saw them wearing Ozzy and Metallica shirts once ina while, at that time, I was into those bands. I figured, "hey, these chicks have decent taste in music, better check some of the other shit out....". I used their back packs for reference. The first band I decided to pick up was THE MISFITS. I went to the mall, with my mom and my meager amount of cash, and I got Legacy of Brutality. They didn't list band members on the tape, I don't think they listed anything, and I was pretty much on my own with this shit, so I didn't know the connection between Glenn and Misfits. My Danzig story came at about the same time. A week or two after LOB, I was sitting in class. The teacher made some kind of comment "Who is the sexiest man alive?" or something, just hypothetically. I'm ADD, so I wasn't paying much attention. All of a sudden, in chorus, the 2 chicks cry out "Glenn Danzig". I figured, hell, might as well check out what this Danzig thing is all about. I picked up Danzig 1 tape and WAU cd that weekend. I'm sitting int he car, listening to thetape of Danzig, thoroughly into it, and i look through my new cd. Hey, wait a minute, this thing says danzig! I was ecstatic about my little discovery and I did it pretty much without anybody telling me. I forgot to mention, I immediately fell in love with LOB, it was the coolest thing I'd ever heard; in fact, I felt like I heard it before. From there, I tried to get as much as I could, but with limited resources it took me 3 years before I even got all of the major releases. I've decided that Misfits were the only band that I'd like to associate myself with. I'm really afraid of groups, mobs, where you lose your personality and give up your identity for the identity of the organization. I am scared shitless of fraternities, and the power they have at this university. I hate them and take any chance I can to thumb my nose at them. I want to think that I'm original, or at least myself and doing what I like if that's not possible. So, I guess from here on out, I'm gonna give everything a listen, if I like it, I like it.... Fuck all else if it's trendy. 6) Other interests.....hmmmm.. I'm a lifeguard, I lived in Okinawa, Japan for 2 years, my Japanese is pretty decent. I used to do kung fu and will do it again if I ever get off my ass and practice. I collect kung fu movies (Jacky Chan, and real hong kong stars) and horror flicks. I like swimming and working out. I used to play trombone and will give it another go, once I get it out of storage. I like Japanese girls and Chinese food. I LOVE DRIVING, I miss my car soooo much. I love Okinawa and Hawaii (in that order). I'd love to see New York again, my family's originally from Long Island. I like boogie boarding and will give surfing a go this summer. Not much else. 7) Last book I read.....hmmmm... I've left a bunch unfinished. I think the last one I finished was Hank Rollins' High Adventure in the Great Outdoors (freaky shit). Before that was probably the latest Robert Aspirin book. I'm midway through this Encyclopedia on James Dean, and I read something new every time I go down to my friend Charlie's room... Reading's cool, I wish I had the time and resources to do it more often.. laterz, sorry 'bout the length of this, HorrorKid PS BOBBY: I think I remember a report on a bunch of Chinese construction workers that were all of a sudden turned into billionaires. You do have a good point, though...America has a lot of oportunity, and a lot to offer, but you do sacrice when you come here. My Japanese friends have supported this observation. There is one thing that you may not realize, the people here are spiritual zombies. If you ever get a chance, go someplace really small, where people aren't so caught up in the evils of modern society.... I hate to be so quick to bash America, but a lot of it's just our society. Okinawa is my breath of fresh air at each vacation, my escape from these shallow frat people, and their control of this small town..... ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 18:50:12 -0400 Subject: stuff wes, you're an idiot! go away please! now, i didn't intend to "fight" with anyone on "punk". i made my points. and didn't take the others personaly. i don't have a problem with major labels. i like bands on major labels. if you don't like a band just because they're on a major label then you're just as bad as people who listen to stuff just because it's on mtv or the radio. both ways you're limiting yourself and letting someone else influence your tastes. if it's good listen to it! the misfits are on warner bros, don't forget! mark, good points! thanks for the kiss info! i'm there! bobby, a life of our own. screw it, all of them! and i liked the comments about the lyrics. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:37:47 -0500 From: "matthew a.richards" Subject: t-shirts and fellow fiendies i must say that after looking at the new t-shirt designs they look ridiculous. I was all pumped for blood when i heard the fits were coming back but now I am hoping that i will not be embarrassed by them. not to sound shitty but I would hate to see the mighty misfits and all the myth and legend they created implode on them by this "return"I would hate to have to explain my misfits t-shirt to other fiends: "Oh yeah, OLD misfits, not the new." i would hate to start looking at the misfits as a punk version of KISS.know what I mean? Anyway, I am reserving judgement until I hear the new music and see a show-- I hope both will be awesome. Misfits bible looks pretty good. What about show dates in the midwest? I am a fiernd at Illinois State and looking around for some other gorehounds (preferably with some amount of intelligence) and looking to start a bloodfeast of a band, too. Anyone in the area please E-mail me. I hope this is how to post, I havn't tried before at this site. "I killed a girl on lover's lane and kept her toes and teeth." ----hatebreeder >:-< ------------------------------ From: Ronald Barned Subject: various things Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:50:09 -0500 hi fiends, I recently visited the misfits book and it says that the song "In The Doorways" was never recorded, when a while back Jerry said that = it was and Glenn had it in his basement.... was Jerry mistaken? Another thing that I'm curious about is if Bobby ....well as long as = you're on the list I'll ask you.... did you or Joey ever sing backup on = the sessions or did Glenn and Jerry just add on vocal tracks themselves? = You can usually tell when Jerry sings backup, he has that yell of his = that sounds like he's gargling. And one last thing, why the hell is Wes Thomas still on this damn = list???!!!! Do you even know who the Misfits are???!!!!!! (anyway i'm = not gonna take up a shitload of space talking about that loser, so = that's all I'm gonna say) That's about it I think. Later, Kyle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:39:25 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: Cain The riff from Twist of Cain is present in Zeppelin's "In My Time of Dying" not that anyone cares, just clarifying a point from last bible. WHoopee! Teevie >;0?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:58:28 From: Bobby Steele Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #166 Okay fiends, It's Wednesday night, in 24 hours, my manager will have held his first meeting with THE MISFITS manager to try to straighten out my share of the settlement on the old recordings. I'm hoping for the best. I'll keep you posted on the turnout. Fortunately, I always got along with Kenny, so I feel comfortable knowing he's running things. I met a few bible subscribers at the CBGB's show on Saturday night. It was quite a night for us. It's the first time that Jill has actually played in front of a good size crowd, and she was really psyched. The sleeve for the new TS 45 is almost done, and we have T-shirts and a button in the works now, too. OUr next show is on May 18, at the RED ROOM in New York City. >From: Opus >Subject: bobby, other shit >First off, Bobby: > >I will admit that I changed my opinion about you after a lot of different >stories I had heard about you. But a lot of your postings get on my nerves >very quickly. You tell us stories which I am sure most of us like, but in >there you seem to always throw in your bitterness toward Jerry. >I tell ya; we know you are unhappy. That is a fact that most of us have >seemed to grasped by now. We know you are not satisfied. Another fact: >JERRY IS NOT A BIBLE SUSCRIBER. Leave the bitterness out of this. There >enough bullshit ankle biting going on with this bible that is killing it. I'm doing my best. C'mon, gimme a break. >From: Ben Todd >Subject: 138? (message that didn't get through b-4) (fwd) What the hell >is 138 (as in "We are 138?")? That song simply kicks ass. > > Thanks, > Ben Todd We have all been sworn to secrecy. Whoever reveals the real answer will die. (heh heh). Like I said Monday, Glenn was very secretive about his lyrics. He never told any of us exactly what it meant. Any other answer is merely speculation. >From: "AngelfucK" >Bobby, > and about this entire punk\not punk thing, >FUCK IT, if its good it't good, if it's not it's not. Who cares? >Later >Roger I couldn't say it better. >Subject: to cg >Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:50:29 -0400 (EDT) . so bobby what are you gonna be doing when your 60? >probably still rocking. I sure hope so. >From: EvilDieff@aol.com >am i crazy or does it say beware was released in 1980. as far as i know it >was 1979. this has probably been addressed before but, i was wondering if >this is a mistake. maybe my version of the web page is old and hasn't been >updated with this info. did anyone else notice? i mean it was released to >promote the 1979 tour with the damned. right? No. When we were in England they were still getting BEWARE together. I remember the guy from the label coming to the hotel to show us the proofs for the jacket. You know how "BEWARE" is scribbled on a piece of paper on the front? I think Glenn came up with that title at the last minute, after seeing signs posted all over, saying "BEWARE, BOLLARDS". We didn't know what a bollard was at the time, so it struck us as a funny sign. BEWARE was actually released in 1980 - after we got back to New York. It might've been as late as February. > To Bobby Steele, if you were to > sign to a major label or make an MTV video, I would still support > you and buy your albums, but I would wonder how you would be able > to sleep at night knowing that your bosses were helping orgainzations > like the PMRC or making weapons for war. If this sounds like a slam > to you Bobby it really isn't meant to be. I still believe that the > UNDEAD are a great band. If this sounds stupid, sorry folks. I have avoided sending my demos to Warner Bros. because of their JUNGLE HABITAT fiasco in the 70's. I mean ya can't avoid every bit of corruption, but I do my best. If I know a company is involved in something wrong, I try to distance myself from them. But, If I can USE them to get my message out, I will. I will never allow a record company to control me. I've already had that opportunity - and refused it. >From: "Neil E. McAllister" >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #165 >> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 15:32:24 >> From: Bobby Steele >> >> I just got back from CHILLER THEATER. I saw the artwork for the new > MISFITS >> T'-shirt - done by Ed Repka. > >Awwww, man... I wish they wouldn't'a done that. When I talked to their >manager last, it sounded like we were in agreement that Ed Repka's stuff >wasn't really the Misfits' thing. (For those who don't know, Ed Repka is >the guy who did the "Ghost Riders" shirt, as well as album covers for half >the shitty metal albums of the 80's, including ones for Megadeth, King >Diamond, Anthrax, more than I can even think of right now. Big airbrush >guy.) I thought they were gonna get more good art back. I thought Pushead >was gonna do some stuff for them again. Shit, I thought *I* was gonna >save them from the hideous fate of being an "Ed Repka Band". Oh well. >I'll keep fighting the good fight! 'Nuff said, true believers. Neil, I'd like to see what you can do. I agree the ED REPKA stuff is NOT the MISFITS style. >From: PRH >Subject: Misfits Vs. Fuzztones (fwd) >hey guys, this is a story i got from an old friend..thought you'd like >to hear from an outsider once.... > >>Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:26:14 -0400 >>From:Nitrohemi@aol.com >>To: nrwidow@netcom.com >>Subject: Misfits Vs. Fuzztones > >Here's the absolutely true story you requested: > >Back in the late '70s I was one of two roadies for a New York City band >called "The Fuzztones". At that time they were called TINA PEEL. That was the famous March 28th '79 gig. >one would have thought that the band would be >excited about it. Instead, in the days before the show Rudi Protrudi, the >Fuzztones' founder / singer / lead guitarist became increasingly >apprehensive. Someone - I never learned who - had warned him that the > Misfits >were planning to beat up the Fuzztones. No one seemed to know exactly what >had provoked this threat but since the Misfits had a reputation as real bad >asses the Fuzztones took it seriously. Rudi called me daily for reassurance >that I wouldn't let him get hurt. On the day of the show he was practically >frantic with worry. > This is killing me. We probably said 'we'll kick their ass', but we meant MUSICALLY, not in a physical way. I was friends with Rudi's sister, and Deb O Nair, the keyboardist. No wonder they always acted weird to me after that show. Now I just gotta figure out what caused the rift between the MISFITS and me. >After the Fuzztones' soundcheck W and I went to a nearby Burger King and >bought dinner. We took it back to the Fuzztones' dressing room, which >adjoined the Misfits' room. The wall seperating the dressing rooms didn't > go >all the way to the ceiling, instead there was a gap of a foot or two at the >top. W and I could hear the Misfits talking on the other side of the wall. > W >got a mischevious look on his face. He didn't like pickles and had built > up a >small pile of pickle slices that he'd taken off his burgers. He picked one >up, flipped it over the wall, and was rewarded with a surprised "Hey!" from >the other side. W and I then tossed the rest of the slices, the wrappers, a >half - eaten burger and any other garbage we could find over the wall, > while >the Misfits whined "Hey you guys, cut it out!" in voices that resembled Pee >Wee Herman's most craven squeal. > Heh Heh, I loooove that story! >To be fair to the Misfits, I must note that they did make some really nasty >faces at W and I later that evening. The Fuzztones were never touched. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:52:35 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: I'm Back, New List OK OK... Just stop sending me the please don't leave messages... Actually what's changing my mind is not the fact that I have so many people begging me not to go, it's something that someone said last bible: (paraphrased) "If you leave your letting the Wes Thomas's of the world win". I thought about this for a bit, and Wednesday I was talking on the phone with Jaid and she reminded me of this fact. whoever said this you are 100% right. I'm not going to post with the frequency that I used to, but I will post. In my absence I've been working on a project that could possibly take some of the off topic postings off this list. I've created my own mailing list! The following is what I sent out to about 25 people from this list & IRC, they all seemed to think it was a great idea and are all subscribed. Read it, if your interested subscribe by sending a subscription request to: oaddict@planet.net Subject: Subscribe DO NOT send requests or posts to crmsngst With the recent happenings on the Bible, I've decided to start my own mailing list. This list WILL NOT be Misfits related at all. That information has it's place on the Bible. Actually it will be more of a free forum to discuss common interests amongst ourselves. Music, Music Business, Music politics, whatever is interesting. Since the idea is that people should post about things they know about, there prolly won't be any dopey questions like "what is the story behind 138?" (watch the movie THX1138) Intelligent arguments amongst members are encouraged, Flaming will not be tolerated. The idea is to learn something from debate or from comments or whatever. All of us are into the Misfits or Punk in general. That is the common ground let's take it from there. I'd like to see maybe only 2 threads going on at once. The first I will suggest now; which is "Major changes in Bands and how they have affected the music" think about it and post when the time comes. I mean bands like Black Sabbath, AC-DC, Sex Pistols, even the Misfits. Bands that had major lineup changes and fought to go on or regroup. The name of the list is Operators Manual, taken from the Buzzcocks tune of the same name. special thanks to angstboy for creating the graphics for the web page which should be up by next week sometime. If your into this send the requests now! the first issue which is the FAQ will be sent out on Sunday, the first REAL issue goes out on Tues. The list will follow the old bible schedule (tues & thurs), administrivia questions should be directed to crmsngst@planet.net. ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ I wish they'd put Bill Clinton in a tomb... ...Hold on I think I have to puke... The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ #misfits channel op -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Subject: to Bobby Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 0:05:32 EDT From: Blood Feast Oh bobby, why oh why must this happen? I thought we were getting along so well, and then you had to go and say that stuff about college students. Bobby, if it weren't for a certain college student named Mark, the misfits bible wouldn't exist. look at the email address. every time an address ends with .edu, that means that it's from a college student. I know you're just expressing your opinion, but wouldn't you get a little peeved if I said "all people who live in one bedroom apartments in new york city by themselves are idiots"? I know you would, and you'd say that it's your own choice to live where you want to. I don't blame you, It's my own choice to go to college, and I think you should stop and think about just how many people on the misfits bible are college students. I'm not trying to flame you, I just want you to realize that if it weren't for college students, you wouldn't be reading any of this. oh yeah- I agree with you one hundred percent about MRR having an elite class just like the communist party, that's a good observation. I'm in a band whose entire purpose is to destroy the elitism of the punk scene. We purposefully set up shows for scenester bands and make them play with "less popular" bands that they are usually too embarrassed to admit playing with, then we give the "less popular" band less money. There's a lot of other anti-scenester stuff we do, but I think that one's the most effective. rock on, bloodfeet ------------------------------ From: MACH@emuvax.emich.edu Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 11:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: old school Hey Fiends! I just finished reading the bible. I am going to the Detroit show and I can't wait. Everyone used to be telling fiends in the area to meet them there and now all of a sudden, you stopped. What's the deal? I thought was cool. Any Detroit fiends who want to meet at St. Andrew's can email me before April 26th. That is when I loose my email account. Bummer. Mark, is it true that the Misfits have quit drinking and what not? I heard that somewhere, but I can't remember where I heard it. I thought it was on here, but I may be mistaken. Straight Edge forever! Rock on Fiends. Randy Mach@emuvax.emich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:17:54 +0200 From: Wolverine Subject: To Wes 'cocksucker' Thomas > CG, I love you. Please come back. I never meant for it to end >like this. You fuck head. I guess this means that I win. >Leave. We don't like you. You are far to mature for us. We are nothing >without you. In fact, I just broke the motherfucking terminal due to my >everflowing tears of despair. By the way, if you say you're going to leave, >than leave. We don't need anyone who's going to threaten to kill anyones >mother's around here. Bye-bye cry baby. Wes, whats your problem? Troubles in your childhood? Got beaten up a lot at school? Or is it just plain old-fashion penis envy? Do you treath people like this in real life too? In that case you can't have any friends at all. Or is it just because you know that noone can beat you up on a mailing list. You did a good job, making CG leave. How old are you, 12? That would certainly explain why some people are to mature for you. Nobody likes you, Wes. Is it so hard to understand it? Not only do we wish death upon your mother, we wish death upon you, your family and everyone they know. Go die on your self, Wes Wolverine ------------------------------ From: Arlene Isabella Kelly <9402779K@STUDENT.GLA.AC.UK> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:52:29 BST Subject: misfits in scotland I read on your misfits home page thing that michale graves was looking for feedback. In march I went to see the misfits through in edinburgh and i have to admit that i was a bit apprehensive because the misfits without glenn is a bit like a sandwich without bread. However (despite the support bands being crap) when they opened with halloween it was obvious it was going to be a good show. The sound wasnt all that great (thankfully - the concert wouldve been ruined if they had sounded as polished as metallica) and considering the role michale had to live up to i thought he did good as he was in a no-win situation - if he hadnt behaved like glenn everyone would have complained and if he did then people would just say he was trying to be him. I think real credit goes to jerry, though as he was brilliant and doyle (if youll permit me a female moment here) still hasnt lost his sex appeal. However michale took a lump out of my nose while gyrating his lower abdomen (the black eye i got from the anthrax concert had just gone down) and i went home wearing his makeup which was a new one on me (ive had concussion, black eyes and more bruises than an average person gets in a lifetime through concerts but this was the first time id been injured by a guys crotch). I signed up for the fiend club at the concert - i presume i do not have to write to you then but could you confirm that please? one other thing, i think that if the misfits played glasgow instead of edinburgh if they ever come back to scotland then they would get a better crowd. Arlene ps why does 138 sound so shit on collection II compared to beware? wea ------------------------------ From: REAGANPR@jmu.edu Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:43:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Opus is the superior cocksucker Opus... I took the time to check out your webpage and your t-shirt design. I must say..they really do suck. It's funny how you think that I'm trying to market my own t-shirts. I won't be making any profit from it, i'll make enough just to break even. Why don't you get shit straight before you start accusing people, asshole. As for you picking on Bobby. You, my friend, are the biggest fuckin' crybaby I have ever seen. Fact: Bobby complains frequently on the bible. Fact: if someone dicked you over with 50 thousand $$ you would be pretty fucking pissed to say the least. Bobby has put up with alot of shit from Jerry and now Googy has to also. Why is Jerry in the right? Why is Jerry cashing in on songs obviously written by Glenn? Jerry is not the savior that will resurrect the fuckin misfits and make tham better. Jerry ain't shit, he fucked up the name of the misfits. Have you ever heard Kryst the Conqueror anywhere besides this homepage? You probably haven't. That is because they suck. No one ever heard of Kryst and they weren't successful. On the other hand, when Jerry gets the name of the misfits, he has a following almost instantaneously. Everyone will buy this new 7" (except me) because it has the name "misfits" on it. Jerry Only is a shame to the music world. Give bobby one thing....he never cashed in on the name of the "misfits" when he had just as much right to the band. Okay, your homepage...it sucks. Why should anyone listen to your ramblings about punk? You listen to fuckin rancid and offspring and other pussy-ass shit like that. I'm proud that you have been in many plays and won some lame-ass fencing shit. You are a dork. You look like a dork too. Why don't you just take your homepage off the internet? It will open up space for a more beneficial one, like maybe some Neil Diamond homepage. Yea, you called my shirts some "copyright infringement". Did it occur to you that when you use the LOB cover on yours, you're doing the same thing? What kind of art is that anyway, it sucks. What the hell is wrong with copyright infringement? The misfits did it frequently but are you complaining? Take a look at the name of the misfits and the name of an old marilyn monroe movie by the same name, take a look at the die, die cover and the chamber of chills cover on marks page...they're almost the same thing. Glenn ripped off all this shit so what's the big deal if i do the same, you already did. Basically, FUCK OFF!! Leave me and Bobby the fuck alone. What makes you better than either of us? is it beacuse all the people in your band "Awake" are fuckin faggots? You guys sound like some "sound that hasn't really been heard yet". Well fuckface, it has been heard before. Ever heard of greenday, rancid, or the offspring? I'm done. Anyone who wants to buy the cd "Kill your baby today" make an offer. pat ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:54:23 -0400 Subject: Last Issue For a while now this has been bothering me. So many people have been complaining about how much the Bible sucks and how bad the posts are and blah blah blah. Well do something about it. Post something of interest. Get your brain out of neutral and put it in gear. Don't wait around for EVB or CG to entertain you. They're not jesters. They're not lounge acts. Don't complain if all you have is complaints and have nothing good to add or say. And what do you expect Mark to do about any of it? Yes, he started the Bible and is in charge of the list but he's not here to fix everything and make everyone send in good posts. What do you want from the guy? Do something yourself. Stop waiting around for people to write something for you to read. Write something yourself. And there are people still on the list who write interesting things. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong. Come on. This isn't nursery school. Stop waiting around to be entertained and humored. If you don't like it, if you don't like how the Bible is turning out, if you don't like the posts, no one is making you stay on it. Unsubscribe. Just do it. Don't make threats. Just unsubscribe and look for others to entertain you. Go and start your own list. It's THAT easy. I liked to read CG's posts just as much as anyone but if he wants to go, that's his choice. He's a grown man. Don't beg for him to stay. Yes, there are a lot of bullshit posts and the same questions are asked over and over and over but don't wait around for things to change. Make changes yourself. Post things that people will want to read and maybe they'll do the same. Flame me for this if you want but I'm sick of all this whining ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: Misfitkev@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:38:26 -0400 Subject: Uh, Whatever GOOD BUDDYs and PunK RoCkl!!! >jbiniek@shrike.depaul.edu> > >Misfitkev@aol.com- "fraternity"? i don't have a flame big enough. we *already* >help each other out, communicate, trade, etc. there are lots of examples i >could point to. the society is there, keep the shitty lable off. maybe i'm >just sensitive to that type of thing. Well fiends, Im sorry I didn't realize we were so close here. --I just wanted to know if we could organize and get together in our LOCAL cities and stuff. STOP trying to be cool. You didn't have to flame me/ just state your opinion. That's cool with me. As for PuNk RoCk. People.....grow up. Bobby Steele has the gyst of what I was to say in the last Bible. (BY the way Bobby, Remember Bob and Rocky from Buffalo??? We tried to get you a gig here??). I only disagree with him slightly with his idea of punk rock. ------PuNk RoCk IS!!!!--- ** Being yourself no matter what. All of the punk bands of yesteryear did not share the same ARARCHY politics as some people think. The one thing that is consistant with all of the old punk bands is that THEY ALL DID WHAT THEY WANTED TO.... AND DID NOT SELL INTO ANY 'ONE' else's system of thinking. #### PuNk Is AbOuT EXPRESSING yourself anyway YoU PLeAzE and NOt LettiNg anyone MaKe YoU tHiNk anything otheRwiZe !!! The only other thing punk is .....is three Power chords, energy, and a LOT of creativity!! --- in conclusion, Punk rOCK IS awesome!!!! thanks for the space Mark...!!!! thanks for the idea's contained in the Bible PUNKS@ MiSfiTkEv@Aol.com... what's up |20eyes| !!!! PS. Is there anyone here that is from St.Catherines?? and do you remember the Danzig concert at Darien Lake, climbing over the gate and chatting with Glenn??? if so, E-Mail me dudes!!! (thanks for the Bible space) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:01:14 -0700 (PDT) From: PRH Subject: punk:goofus or gallant? hello, i was just pondering something inside my feeble, or fetal, brain(no diff). the thing that has made all of us fiends....including my obvious fan, Wes...the LCD (lowest common denominator) and that is pretty much an affinity for all things misfit. Let us stop the slagging of things because they are, or are not, punk. What is punk anywaY, in 1978 it was anything that wasnt Foreigner (altho i did like their song "hot blooded chicken of the sea")(and "you're as dry as ice");) was considered punk. Would you call Blondie punk? So dont call this music we all like one thing or another except Misfitsified music. When Tammy S. publishes her thing with our vital statistics, I think it will become apparent that we all have different tastes, for the most part, and many of us come from various walks of life...yet I-- a 38 yrs old woman who has spent the day talking to a principal about her kids behavior--has much in common with the 18 yrs old college student, and it isnt just music. The kids i have been corresponding with all seem to like the same types of THINGS i like--horror movies, violent movies, the macabre in daily life, cartoons etc....and we have all that in Misfits/Samhain/Danzig/Undead/Kryst et al. So lets dont say that one thing or another belongs here, we all do! Whatever attracted you to this group in the first place, i am sure (with my vast experience compared to many of you) it does not just go away or get outgrown. You were bred to take it, and strength is all you gotta know! with love to the coolest people i have talked with in a long time, patricia as usual, hate mail and love letters are welcomed. As long as it is a reaction. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: PRH Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JERRY ONLY! wow! I almost forgot! here's my favorite memory of Jerry: in 1979 Punk Mag was going OUT of BIZNIZ. I mean, bottom, out of sight, totally destitute....and only a mere few ever even recognized our existence. I cannot even begin to tell you guys how grim it was for us back then. Jerry shows us a couple of days before the end of the year, and visited, hugs for everybody, even the guys! Brought us a pizza, and brother did we need it, and when he left, he chirps, "Happy holidays!" Unbelievable. Pollyanna Only. Then, on New Years Eve, he actually called to see if we all had plans. I was the only person in NY then, everybody else had gone home to Nebraska or Connecticut, and I was all alone. Jerry says, whattaya doin? i said, probably going to the White Rose (which is like a bum bar) and drinking til i puke. Jerry says cheerfully, well, if nobody else wants to join you, I'll come in town and drink with you! Like Iwas saying I had an invite to the coolest party in town,and had no date. But as it turned out, two other people had nothing else to do, and i ended up drinking at the White Rose with the Ramones exmanager, the wonderful Danny Fields (discoverer of Jim Morrison, Iggy and the Ramones) and another friend of his, but Jerry was the only person who cared whether his friends were going to be alone on New Years Eve. God love you Jerry! Lets have some Cherry Kiafa! with love, patricia ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Wesley Thomas Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:25:38 -0500 (EST) I am once again bringing myself down to the level of a true reject, but I honestly feel that this issue must be addressed. First Evb leaves, that sucked but I feel that she was too opinionated. Now the crimson ghost leaves. I was glad to see the large amount of support last issue by many members asking the ghost to come back. Then, as if to show us the reason why c,g, left, wes thomas makes some of the most ludicrous statements yet regarding c.g. I think that if we can get rid of wes or at least shut him up or teach him some manners we will be able to prove to the ghost just how far we are willing to go to get him back. Wes- What do you mean when you say that the departure of the crimson ghost means tha6t you won? Won what? An argument? Last I checked you two had buried the hatchet? Am I the only one that is being harrassed on my personal email line by wes thomas? I do not know why he picked me to bother. Yesterday I got a message from wes saying that now that the c.g. is gone he will be taking over the name " the crimson ghost" He also told me that he is considering opening up his own crimson ghost home page and possibly running his own type of misfits bible. I really do hope that happens because then maybe he will get the fuck out of here. Sincerely, Adam Seven " Now you're part of the moral majority" arE ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:40:38 -0500 (EST) n my previous post I have talked about getting something done to solve the wes thomas problem. Well, actions speak louder than words so I have an idea. Not many of us know much about wes thomas except that he likes to piss us all off here at the bible. I know that lately there have been other members trying to get us all to fill in bios so that we can get to know each other. This is a good idea but I have a feeling thatb wes only responds to things directly addressed to him. Maybne if wes does this he will feel better about himself and we will be able to better accept him, then he will shut his fucking mouth and keep his worthless ideas to himself. Wes Thomas: Please send us the following things about yourself so that we can all get to know you better! Full name- Birth date - Hometown- College major- ( For those of you that don't know he goes to ball state university in Indiana ) How you got into the misfits- # of times you jack off in one day- Just kidding Hobbies- ( besides fucking dead animals and being an asshole on the bible ) Physical description - What kind of person are you- ( sensitive, lovable,aggressive,romantic, homosexual, pedophile, necrobeastial, understanding, out going, whatever...) other bands that you like - Have you ever smoked crack?- # of porno mags under your bed with pages stuck together - Please realize that this is all good fun and that it should help for you to be better accepted and maybe even get some friends here on the bible. Sincerely, Adam seven " I've no feelings, for anybody else, except for myself" - Sid Vicious ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:29:41 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Oh Yeah one more thing......... HAPPY BIRTHDAY JERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:44:01 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Please Read This! Ok , This is for all you hard core cool ass punkers who have never been there dont know what it is like (well niether have I) and expect so much. Take a little read of this clip from old Hank Rollins and learn:SonicNet Online Happening HENRY ROLLINS 2.9.95 Rollins logged in from his digs in LA for a jammed conference on SonicNet. His book about his years with Black Flag, Get in the Van, had recently come out. For those who were able to get on, it was a high velocity happening with Rollins scrambling to keep up with the barrage of questions. Here's the lean, mean transcript for your perusal: (THE PROFESSOR) Henry, how do like all the publicity that you have been receiving the past couple of years. From being DETAILS man of the year to being on the tonight show? (ROLLINS) The press thing is fun, it's nothing I take seriously as far as thinking I'm something special. I try to communicate as well as I can. Some people get the wrong idea sometimes. (ROTH) Henry, you have any new tattoos? (ROLLINS) No new tattoos. (SILLY RABBITT) Rollins, why didn't u use showplace studios for your last project? (ROLLINS) Because as cool as that place was, it was still the studio thing that we don't like. Sterile and too clean. (EVAN SILVERMAN) Who has influenced your lyric writing? (ROLLINS) Lyric influences: Dylan, TV Smith, Greg Ginn, Ian MacKaye, Phil Lynott, I'm sure there's others but I can't think of them now. (RICH LANGHAMMER) Henry, how do you respond to people saying that you have sold out when they see you on MTV and in Mac ads? (ROLLINS) It's good to finally get to the sell out question. I always figured that the whole punk rock thing was to take the underground to the overground and push the fuckers out of the way and fuck up the program, I do the best I can. I am not interested in hiding out and not being bold. I like going into the big media, the big lights and not holding back. Like I said before, some people get the wrong idea and I can understand that completely. (LYSSA GARAN) Would you like to get to the hypocrite question? (ROLLINS) Please. (EVAN SILVERMAN) I don't think you sold-out. I think you piss off the people who should be pissed of. (ROLLINS) Bingo. Got it? End of discussion this thread has been around for the deration of the bible and it is stupid. D-Rod ------------------------------ From: Sleepycore@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:59:44 -0400 Subject: Not another box set post Hey Fiendz, Since I live in Alaska, it was hard for me to get the Misfits box set, but I FINALLY got it!! First of all, I thought something was wrong with it because it only cost me 30$. When I opened it up, there was only one CD!! But, there was a VIDEOCASSETTE also!! I must've gotten some limited edition thing. Anyway, the CD I got is called "How the Gods Kill," which I already have. I was disappointed 'cause I already have it, and you all know it has some ass-kickin' rockin' tunes. Not expecting much, I watched the videocassette which came in my box and then I knew my money was well spent. It's the UNCENSORED version of the video "How the Gods Kill!" Get this fiendz, there was a close-up of some girl's titties!! Damn, she was hotter than Pamela Anderson!! Forget "Bend Over Babes," "How the Gods Kill" will "satisfy" you in no time. The actual box itself is killer, it's a 3-D picture of some chick and snakes and spiders and stuff. Whew!! The Misfits know what their fans want!! I have to sum up the Misfits Box Set in two words: IN TENSE!!!!!!! Love, Bobby Lust P.S. Has anyone noticed how much CrimsonGhost sucks? I don't care if he knows the Misfits or watches them practice, he's still a turd. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:03:17 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Another day and another bible... Hi Fiends it's Friday and you only have 3 more days to get your replies in for the GET TO KNOW YOU ISSUE. So hurry up, if you are reading this then you are at a computer, so take the time to use the e-mail and e-mail your answers!!! First a little bits and pieces from last bible. This is out to Crimson Ghost I think you should stay, why would you even let an asshole like Wes get to you and send you away from a place you belong, a place you have a lot of friends and people who think very highly of you. Plus the post Wes had on the last bible was pathetic. Yeah Wes you're a real big man, the name calling was real powerful. What a sack of shit you are, why are you here? You flame people who don't even say word one about you. well enough about the flame shit, i don't see the point in why people are flaming each other. I you guys even realized how much all of you have in common and could be friends instead of the name calling shit. So here are the questions one more time and please get them in by sunday!?! The official questionnaire for the Let's Get To Know Each Other Issue Of the Bible: 1) Real Name - 2) Birthday - 3) Where you got to school, what are you studying, and or where you work - 4) Other bands you like - 5) What got you interested in the Misfits - 6) What are your other interests - 7) What is the last book you read - well those are the questions, all you have to do is answer them and e-mail your questions with answers to: tes777@bridge.net so i can put this together for Mark(who talked me into organizing this - me and my big mouth for suggesting it) If your send them this week we should be able to have the special issue for next mondays Bible!?! HOPE TO SEE YOU IN MY E-MAIL BOX!?! tes777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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No Mistfits: Phantom of the Opera scumfuck The Bible and such Re: Misfits Bible, #167 Vampira, CD boots Hell hound and Vampira Re: Misfits Bible, #167 mother Buggle barf Phantom of the Opera re. #167 Boxset screw-ups Canadian Fiends Hellhound is leaving for now Evil is as evil does and who lost? he's always at it!right CG? a comment and a couple of ?'s Re: Misfits Bible, #167 subscribe Last Ish ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 21:49:12 MDT From: "Cadet Kyle J. Pumroy, x4748" Subject: box tunes/CG Hello everyone, Haven't posted for ages. 3 Bibles a week was my idea, so I hope you all like it better, I sure do. Finally get to read the whole issue (usually). Just wanted to tell everybody that I was looking at CD's today and saw one called "Box Tunes: Big Ones of Alternate Rock, Vol. I" and on it was "Until you call on the dark." Just in case anyone cared. I guess alternative would not be my first description of Danzig. Especially on an album with the Cranberries. White Zombie was on it too, so I guess it makes sense. Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I haven't seen so. it was a new realease. oh yeah, sorry if this sounds bad, but I just don't see the major loss of CG not posting anymore. Seems like his posts were always the longest ones that I had to scroll through to find something worth while to read. Most of his posts were arguing with other people or arguing about opinions, which really aren't ever right or wrong, just opinions. So why argue about them? Everyone has their own. I get the bible mainly for information on the Misfits, which CG really hasn't contributed for a long time. So what's the big deal? So he was an original subscriber, this makes him a bigger fan? no. I don't think Mark's ego is so big that if somebody hurt his feelings he'd stop the bible, or even kick the person off, so what's CG's problem? Losing EVB, now that was a loss. I will agree though that there are a lot more idiots posting now than ever before, so I'm sure it gets frustrating. later Usually not so mean Kyle P Oh yeah, anybody know who that is on the Passiac NJ bootleg who goes "Yeah, yeah... Yeah" on All Hell? cracks me up every time. ------------------------------ From: NJV aka Misfitt Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 01:09:54 +0000 Subject: Get a Fucking clue Fiends, Wake Up!!! What the hell is going on--why attack Bobby because, from what you see, you inappropiately think he is a "sell out." It may not be the best punk song, but it's probably the most well known--"Anarchy in the UK." Take a step back--anarchy does not mean socialism--anarchy is essentially the survival of the fittest without centralized government interference. It does not glorify punks living on the streets. It promotes those who strive, have the ability to succed (even if they are not part of the status quo). If the industry is willing to reward one for his or her uncomprimised art, it would be fucking foolish not to accept it. Many of you are in College--so you should know the difference between Socialism and Anarchy. And you fools should realize who you are talking to when you try to flame CG, man you don't know what we will all be missing if he decides to stay away permanantly because of you fucks. Nick (Misfitt) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:20:15 -0600 From: Opus Subject: REAGANPR: v a l i u m REAGANPR: I would have gotten my shit straight had you posted your shirts were for non profit. Next subject, BOBBY. I was not picking on him. You get your fucking facts straight, asshole. I used to not like him because shit I had heard. I then heard other cool stories about him and changed my mind. I would probably be taking the same steps as he has to try and get my fair share. Get your fucking facts straight again. I had heard of Kryst, and I really didn't like them that much. The only reason I picked it up was because it was Jerry. The Misfits are one of my favorite bands, of course I would. Gee, I am so sorry that you do not like my page. I don't give a shit what an opinionated, no brained fuck would say about it. My "ramblings about punk"? What makes my thought and opinion worth less than yours? Get your fucking facts straight again. Where in my favorite bands did it say Offspring? You don't like my page, stay the fuck away from it. Yeah, my shirt design is a copyright infringment. That is why it will NOT GO INTO PRINT, plus that is why I am in support of another shirt. FACTS STRAIGHT, MOTHERFUCKER! You haven't even heard my band, fuck-o. Offspring, green day, rancid... nope, we don't sound like them. Funny that you should say so considering we don't start recording until this summer. Shit, how did you get the inside scoop before us??? Give me an address, and I will be sure to send you one of the first copies... Put your head back up your ass where it has been. You may not have the usual one sentenced brainless comments that I am used to, but you are still lacking the brains and the fact to back up your opinion. TO THE REST OF THE FIENDS: I apologise for the bickering that I have so recently critisised, but I am not about to let his last posting go unanswered. TO BOBBY: I apologise if my last posting was mis understood. Sorry. michael ------------http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit/-------------------------- "Ever ask yourself, 'where's my place in this hell?'" -Operation Ivy X X XX X X XX X XXX XX XX XXX X XX XXX XXX XXX XXX XX XXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXX XXXX XXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XXXXXX XX XXXXXXX X XXXX XX XX XXXX X XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX X X X XXXXX XX X X X X X XXX X X X X X X ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:46:07 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: stuff for sale hey fiends well I have felt the pressure of incoming bills and I am selling: Earth AD Cd(gold)-$75 Danzig How the Gods Kill 3D Box with video- $45 hury quick cuz Im outta here in a couple weeks! D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:32:22 -0700 From: WASHINGTON Subject: Re:Boxset Crap-up I also noticed that the EVILIVE cd from the box set sounded crappier than it should have. It sounds like you're listing to it from a Real Audio file, but only slightly better. My guess is that whoever "digitaly remastered" it fucked up BIG time, had the levels too high, which always sounds A LOT worse then when when in the digital domain as opposed to analog. Can someone from Caroline, or maybe Jerry, please comment on this? " prono is theme" TEKACHI PRONO PAGE:http://www.sirius.com/~wash ------------------------------ From: Jesse Vanek Subject: Read this!!!! Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 01:51:00 PDT All you horror movie fans out there, read this book--"Step Right Up! I'm gonna scare the pants off of America!" by William Castle. That's right, the William Castle of b-movie fame! This is his autobiography, and it's funny as hell. It talks a lot about his marketing scams like electrified seats and flying skeletons and insurance policies for those who die of fright.... I don't think that he did any films that are related to the Misfits, so I apologize for posting about something not 'fits related, but I thought some of you might be interested. In case you're wondering, he directed: 13 Ghosts 13 Frightened Girls Bug plus some others I can't remember. Remember Rosemary's Baby? Well, he produced it. Check out the book! Layta', Jesse Skam "Merry Christmas, I fucked your snowman Merry Christmas, I slept with him! Merry Christmas, I fucked your snowman, Merry Christmas, I'll do it again!" --Showcase Showdown-- ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.aonline.com Date: 18 Apr 1996 21:00:04 EDT Subject: Danzig box set That dude who wrote saying he got the Danzig III box set and thought it was the Misfits box set is messed up, really, because not only is he a disgrace to Alaska, but, if he bought it from Mammoth, got the LAST one in Anchorage. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 01:55:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Fama Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #167 > From: Hellhound > The only title mistakes are: Astro Zombies is missing the last s, Skulls is > spelled skuls, and wolfsblood is 2 words Wolf's Blood. Tracks 1-17 are from I always spell it with two words. That's how it is on Earth A.D./Wolf's Blood, and also on Glenn's arm. It's only put as one word on "Misfits." > From: ackxhpaez > Subject: glenn/contradictions > mark, you know i think yr a nice guy and all but you must realize > that your notion of glenn "never contradict(ing)" himself is > false. need i point to the whole situation with the "mother" > video ('88 vs. '95) ??? It's '93 not '95. But what's the contradiction? So he made a live video out of an old song. Big deal. The reason the Mother '93 video was released was because Danzig had an awesome show at Irvine Meadows, where most of the footage was shot. Glenn NEVER said he didn't want success, or to be on MTV, or anything like that. He always said he would do things his way, and if success came on his terms, fine. He said he would never write a song "just to get it on the radio." And what happens? One of his 7-year old songs gets played, and he is STILL called a sell-out. Look at the videos he did right before and right after "Mother '93": "It's Coming Down" and "Until You Call on the Dark." Both banned (the latter only for a while, but still... People who sell-out (and I must assume that's what you mean when you say he contradicted himself) don't go and write songs called "Brand New God" or "Bringer of Death." Nor do they name their albums after obscure cults linked with the Son of Sam and the Helter Skelter murders. Read what Glenn had said about this topic, and watch what he says in interviews. Then look at his song titles and lyrics. Anyone who can call him a sell-out with any seriousness has to be blind. Read Mark's post in #138. That pretty much sums it up. If you still think that way, that's your problem. That's all I'll say, because this has to be the stupidest argument ever. > From: Zoltar > Nope, I was just asking people to make some lyrics up. Jerry has told me > the chorus lyrics and I thought it would be interesting to see how people WHAT!!!!! Mark, how could not tell me this???? You know I'm on exams and can't check the page too much...they are on the oage aren't they?? also: someone mentioned something about Bodies being a cover song...it's definitely not, but is it based on an old blues song? Post if you know; I've never heard that before. BTW Twist of Cain is not a Led Zep tune. It may sound similar (ie: the guitar riff) but it is Glenn's song. Someone called it a "re-done" Zep song or something. It isn't. I was just gonna say that CG would back sooner or later (don't forget he left once before) but I see he already is. Welcome back... -BRETT not about to see your light ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 01:36:16 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: woooah Zodiac: You read Ghoul too? I picked that up at a used book store. It looked real cool and it had a recommendation from Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickision (sp?). For those of you who don't know it, it mentions a punk band where they and their fans dress up like zombies, sounds familiar, huh? Book was awesome... Joe "baka": I remember that article. THey also mentioned his cali sticks. I took Cali/escrima/dumogue for a short time, I really only tagged along with my friend who was really into it. Cali is pretty decent filipino art, kinda like escrima, but not as much speed-based. They use sticks, knifes, and a short miniature rod looking thing. I know you're not gonna agree with this, but while in Okinawa, I took traditional kung fu and Tai Chi for about 2 years, intensive study and I was really good friends with the teacher. I have very little respect for Jeet Kune Do, although I think Glenn would do okay in the UFC, which I also don't think too much of. One thing about the UFC, they probably wouldn't let Glenn fight. I'd like to point out their blatant fear of Benny the Jet Urquidez and his willingness to fight in the competition for free. I like how you mentioned Super Ninjas. I think I saw that when I was little. I collect hong kong flicks. The real ones to look for are: Jet Li, Jacky Chan, Yuen Biow, Samo Hung, Donny Yen...hell the list could go on forever. Email me and I can either dub ya some, give you the name of my supplier, or recommend some good titles. Shit, better wrap this up, laterz. HorrorKid ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #167 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 03:33:23 -0400 (EDT) > From Hellhound > Passaic NJ on Feb 25, 1981. Tracks 18-24 are the Ambionic Recording Sessions > in late 1981. Tracks 25-27 are from New York 1979. And tracks 28-32 are If you listen to the 'Ambionic' tracks, you'll recognize four of them as coming from the Reel Platinum session on the box set. > From: ackxhpaez > mark, you know i think yr a nice guy and all but you must realize > that your notion of glenn "never contradict(ing)" himself is > false. need i point to the whole situation with the "mother" > video ('88 vs. '95) ??? See Brett's post above. Just what do you mean? > From: Zodiac > Mark: Any news on the Samhain Box? There may have been a reply last bible, > but I skimmed through 65% of it. I wish... > From: Peter Moeller