Misfits Bible, Number 171 Monday, April 29th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #170 Re: Misfits Bible, #170 Politics & the Bible boiled angel Fiend Club Mailing Not fits related, but "punk" Final words Re: Misfits Bible, #170 Chicago, @Bullet on irc... JUICE MAGAZINE, 4/96: Jerry and Rollins MiSFiTS posters "socialism" its in my blood to always.... Got a problem... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:01:31 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #170 Tes777, you should be banned for your outragous and slanderous comments. Sebastian "FuCk FuCk FuCk dAt AsS" Dezza ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #170 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:24:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: "JeanC,SrA,49CS/SCONO" > Subject: Comic book? > > Has anyone heard anymore on the comic book? I was going through some of the > old articles on the page and saw a little blurb about the comic. I remember > it used to get mentioned, but now you just don't hear anything about it. Glenn wouldn't approve of the comic book with any drawings of him in it. Perhaps it will come out one day with Michale instead. > From: Mark Lerret > Subject: Baltimore, 1982 ?? > > Three songs from the "All Hell Breaks Loose" radio show, broadcast on 5/13/83, > claim to be from a 1982 Baltimore show. I can't find any reference to the show > on the web page. Can anyone help resolve this discrepancy for me ?? It's in there. Look in the complete recordings section... page down until you see Baltimore, 1982. I know absolutely nothing else about those songs - they are one of the very few Misfits recording mysteries that I haven't been able to solve. > From Jamil > any reason Louisville Babylon is'nt on the page? Yes! Nobody has ever sent me a track listing or any sort of info to use on the page. I've been trying to track the thing down since I first heard of it on this very mailing list almost 2 years ago. If anybody has Louisville Babylon, please let me know. A fiend of mine is currently attempting to get some copies, but the faster the better, I say... > From Bobby Steele Thanks for the nice words about the Misfits Bible, Bobby. I have a feeling that the second I graduate from college, I'm going to find a good internet server and transport the Bible over there. Hopefully this will be running as long as there are fiends out there.... mark ------------------------------ From: Tarry_Carapezza@dpc.senate.gov Date: Fri, 26 Apr 96 14:22:18 EST Subject: Politics & the Bible Keith138 said: >Uh , could we please keep the politics off the Bible? I couldn't agree more. > 3- Most of you are WRONG anyway ! For college students or graduates most of >you have no clue. Your right, I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. (Check my address) >What a waste of tuition money( which your parents probably had to scrimp and >save cuz an unfair amount of taxes were stolen from their wages to support >joewellfare - how's that for "economic equalization" huh?) Actually it's pretty ignorant. If you blame 'welfare' for our economic problems, you are a brainwashed slave. If government did away with the Welfare program tommorow, the budget would still be WAY out of balance. Stop blaming the poor! Like I said, I'm all for keeping politics out of the Bible. But that means keeping your smart-ass 'holier-than-thou' statements to yourself. How dare you accuse people of being ignorant, while you spew erronious drivel. -Tarry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 17:08:56 -0400 From: Phuck This is probably Waaay late, but fuck it... 1: Real Name: Vince Nestico 2. DOB: 4--72 3: How I got into the Misfits: Punker friend of mine in Jr. High always had on a Samhain shirt, and I asked him 'What the fuck he always wore the same shirt for, so he handed me a dubbed tape of some Misfits/Samhain and I listened to it over and over until I finally bought my own shit. then, a year later Danzig released his first album, So when we were out getting stoned during lunch, We would all be singin' MUTHA! 4. I work for an automotive seat recliner manufacturer, building stuff that will probably never end up in a car. 5. Other Bands I like: Zombie, Rollins/Flag Type O, Dread Zeppelin, Pantera, Death Puppet, King Louie and the 7 twans-1, PLA, Rubber, Elastic, Underwear (I just made those up) 5 other interests: Internet surfin', Phreakin', Building PC's, Curvy Chicks 6 Last good book: How to make a 7-11 employee's life a living hell by RedBoxChiliPepper. 7. Favorite Joke to play on assholes at work - Pour a quart of oil and a bunch of anti-freeze under their car, and tell them not to drive it or you might as well kiss your engine goodbye. If you like, you can refer them to a mechanic friend. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Blood Like a crimson highway Spreading out ------------------------------ From: his! -Glenn Danzig 1987 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 17:10:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: boiled angel I will try to make this short. A guy in Florida was busted on an obsenity charge for producing/distrbuting a zine called Boiled Angel. It was mostly crude drawings of stuff like priests screwing altarboys etc. Anyway i think he got three years probation, 3000$ fine, and was told by the judge he could not do any more obscene drawings, even in the privacy of his own bedroom. Look up Boiled angel on the world wide web for more info. I mention this because 1.I think it totally rapes the idea of free speech and pisses me off to no end, and 2. the original name of Boiled angel was Angelfuck. jamil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 21:32:19 -0400 From: She Subject: Fiend Club Mailing Hey Fiends - Just thought I'd let you know that another Fiend Club mailing went out this week. About 1200 Fiends on the east coast will be receiving a copy of the flyer for the show in their area, just in case the news hasn't gotten around. Also, tour poster packages went out to those of you who offered to put up posters for the upcoming shows. Because a lot of people volunteered to help at some of the shows, it's quite possible that some of you won't be receiving any (less work for you, I guess). A lot of you were added to the guest list for your shows as a sort of 'thanks' for your help. m ------------------------------ From: NJV aka Misfitt Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 23:28:00 +0000 Subject: Not fits related, but "punk" Scum****, and others, I saw in a couple of "bios", that there are some of the fiends are also Hanoi Rocks fans--(makes sense--HR was a band before its time, like the misfits, and have been copied by HM as well as punk bands). I have a lot of HR stuff--video, import vinyl, and original releases (not the Slash re-releases), and Michael Monroe's first solo album (japanese release). I also saw the last HR show at peabody's down under before Razzle died--I apologize to those fiends who could care less about HR, but if any of you have any HR stuff or stories--E-Mail me--HR fans are few and far between!!! "Life is a Tragedy--Reminds me of a symphony--on the radio..was a little too much, too fast.." Nick--Misfitt ------------------------------ From: Adam Christensen Subject: Final words Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 23:13:29 -0500 (EST) Hello you cumm dumpsters, Well, This is finsl week here at Purdue University so that means that I will be going home for the summer soon. My hometown is a suburb of chicago. I will miss being able to reAD THE BIBLE every other day but guesss that gives me a reason to come back next year. For my last three posts I want to say some of the things that I have been hesitant to say before because I did not want to start a flame war, but now I just dont give a fuck. SCUMFUCK: ( whatever the fuck your real name is ) - You are a goddamn pantywaste. Your constant bitching about people posting things not relevent to the misfits really gets old. Don't you know that you are only making the perfect breeding ground for mor flames? Your completely ignorant remarks regarding the Phantom of the opera ( you said that it was play and never a movie and that there was never a Lon Chaney) really got my goat. Check your facts before opening your stinking hole you moron. WES THOMAS: I must admit that your comments can be amusing at times but I still do not undrestand your motives, especially for threatening my life when ever the mood strikes you. You need to either grow up or start taking lithium or ridilin because you might just have some ]serious problems. Patricia - you are definitly a great asset to the bible. It is cool to hear your stories and learn more about the misfits from you. You also have a awesome sense of humor. I look forwarrd to talking more on email next year. Mark Kennedy - You have helped to make this first year at college alot easier. It's always fun to check out the web page whenever I need a study break. That's especially cool because it is info. on the misfits is usually so hard to come by. Thanks for setting all this shit up! Crimson Ghost - well, even after all my bitching you still sent me the pick. Thanks! I hope that you someday post as much as you used to. Until then good luck with your new list. Teevie- ( What the fuck kind of nickname is that?) - You are a dickcheese for breaking into wes thomas's email account like that. Are you aware that doing things like that are highly illegal? Quit being such such a dork and talking about what bootlegs you have and this and that. Nobody fucking cares! The whole idea of the fits is just to love the music no matter where you hear it from. I really don't give a shit if you have the first pressing of horror business or a condom that glenn used or whatever, get a fucking life you jackoff!!! Last of all I want to apologize for all the typos that all my posts have. I just can't type worth a damn. Mummy-I'm not an abortion-Sid Vicious, Adam " Fuck you and the boat you came in on " Seven ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 10:56:59 From: Bobby Steele Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #170 > >Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:23:43 -0700 (PDT) >From: PRH >Subject: i knew it! >Bobby: where are you? I'm here. I've been really busy this past week. Shit, this stuff gets hard to keep up with. I don't know how Mark does this. Ya must be cuttin' class, huh? >From: UJCCURRY@msuvx1.memphis.edu >Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 02:23:57 -0600 (CST) > > If Bobby is out there. How about some simple progressions to Put > your >clothes back on, and maybe...oh christ, anything else. (or i could get > off my >lazy butt and spend the 10minutes it would take to figure em out). So if > the >Gratefull Dead had deadheads does that mean that the Undead has...sorry, i >dont know what came over me. > Awwww. Here I was, about to honor your request...then ya gotta make a dumb joke. (he he he) Okay, let's see if I can get this right> PUT YOUR CLOTHES BACK ON - (copyright 1984 herpes music) INTRO: E / / / I C# / A / I 2x (the 'I' is the new measure) VERSE 1: E / / / I C# / A / I 4X B I C# I A I B I B CHORUS: E / / / I A / / / I B / / / I B / / / I E / / / I A / / / IF# / / / I A / / / I B / / / I B / / / I VERSE 2: E / / / I C# / A / I 4X E / / / I C# / / / I A / / / I B / / / I C# / / / I A / / / I B / / / I (chorus) (intro) BRIDGE INTRO: F# / / / I A / / / I 3X E / / / I E / / / I BRIDGE: A / / / /I C# / / / I F# / / / I B / / / I A / / / / I C# / / / I F# / / / I F# / / / I B / / / I B / / / I B / / / I B / / / I BREAK: E / / / I E / A E I 4X (BASS STAYS ON 'E') (repeat VERSE 1) ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 15:50:57 -0400 Subject: Chicago, Chicago area Fiends, I was at the Deicide show at the Whale on Friday....and I saw a surprising amount of Misfits shirts, jackets, tattoos, even a few hats. Were any other subscribers there besides me? Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:46:52 -0600 From: Opus Subject: @Bullet on irc... Saturday evening: That was a quote on the irc, it was from that fuck eckm. That wasn't me! michael ---------------http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit/--------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 20:46:26 -0600 From: Opus Subject: JUICE MAGAZINE, 4/96: Jerry and Rollins Okay, I have to say that I have a real problem with Jerry regarding his hate of Henry Rollins. In this issue, Jerry is asked, "I know that Henry Rollins was a huge Misfits fan, have you heard from him since you got the band back together?" Read Jerry's response on Marks page under articles... What his response comes down to is that Robo [ex black flag drummer] needed money. Jerry threatened Greg Ginn, former Black Flag guitarist, also telling him to pay Robo. That approach didn't work. He also asked for Henry's help. Henry told him to tell Robo to get a lawyer, but Jerry didn't like that response. Due to all of this, Jerry says, "Thanks for the fucking brainstorm, Henry! He's a fucking hypocrite. Fuck him. I don't want a friend like that. Henry's not welcome in my camp. If he's got a problem, let him bring it to me." That is a fucked up response by Jerry. This sounds very familier to Bobby's ordeal with Jerry concerning royalties. Who is the hypocrite? I can say from personal experience that Henry is one hell of a person. He was kind enough to help my brother out with some problems after one of his shows here. Henry is an incredible person with a hell of a brain. Hey Jerry, I remember a phrase I was told about glass houses and throwing stones. Think about it. michael ------------http://holly.colostate.edu/~misfit/-------------------------- "You're up to your neck where will I find you next I don't know why I try I know you will soon die" -Awake X X XX X X XX X XXX XX XX XXX X XX XXX XXX XXX XXX XX XXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXX XXXX XXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XXXXXX XX XXXXXXX X XXXX XX XX XXXX X XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX X X X XXXXX XX X X X X X XXX X X X X X X ------------------------------ From: Jerryonly3@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:53:13 -0400 Subject: MiSFiTS posters Does anyone know where I can get ANY MiSFiTS Posters I will pay for them. Also I am looking for boots expescialy the Necrosomicon. The MaxX ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 20:07:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Russell Subject: "socialism" hey scumfuck- Just to comment on your description of socialism as a system where everyone has equal status and equal wealth - I don't know if socialism is the proper term for it. But it HAS been achieved - virtually all foraging groups (hunter-gatherers) have no formal leaders and all food is distributed to everyone - in fact, the hunter who brings home the meat gets the least of it. They acknowledge nobody as their leader; some people may have some authority based on age, but they can only make suggestions, never compel anybody to do anything. It was only after the rise of agriculture that discrepancies of wealth, hereditary inheritance, and political power came about. Unfortunately virtually all foraging groups are extinct - not because their system doesn't work (foragers generally eat much more nutritious diets than agriculturalists) but because of contact with modern cultures. I realize this is irrelevant but here I am studying for my anthropology exam and you were talking about what I was reading. -aon-1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Quicklime Girl Subject: its in my blood to always.... hey fiends, well well, wes! i have a question! you say we have gone to far? where exactly is Far? is that the lap dance emporium at No Balls State? Get in the ring! my greetings and salutations to my new fiends Aris and Peter Moeller! it is great to correspond with overseas fiends, they have a refreshing perspective. Your tastes are too cool, Peter! See you on the Operators Manual. Brett F:(hope you dont think i am picking on you!)(i mean, two responses in a row...)Sprach means "spake" or to speak, in Deutsch, right Keith138? Peter M? I am working on a calendar for the Bible. It will be ready before Halloween, but i am only going to have the summer to do the art/leg work. Thanks to you who are already helping me, Keith138 and (hopefully)TES777, but if any of you have any dates that arent obvious (like the former and current MisFits b'days etc) please let me know and you will get an accolade from me somewhere. You know, a tip o'the hat. I need Boris Karloffs b'day, and death date if any of you know this. email me at . Thanks to all in advance. see being you, patricia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:18:19 -0500 From: TES777 Subject: Got a problem... To the fiends - well i hope you guys liked the get to know you issue, so far i've got some possitive responces from some of you. I think it went well but what happened to everyone, there are over 700 people suscribed to this bible and i think about 80 replied!?! The next time you guys better get your butts in gear. Oh this is out to Danial King - in the last bible issue you weren't happy with the special issue cause it made the issue to big, well to bad. I'm sorry if you had problems with it but the point was for all of us to get to know one another. And i didn't do this in the middle of my final weeks of school, trying to finish a 12 piece portfolio, a book binding, typesetting a catalog, animation for the schools web page, writing the code for my own part of the page, plus everything else that happened during the coarse of the week. If anyone else has a real problem with the issue ie missing info or stuff like that contact me or Mark. But i don't want to hear about crap like the bible was to big. Please think about what you're saying next time. Later fiend, from the kind of social director for the Bible, maybe this should be a crusie ship!?! TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Opus' Post about Jerry and Rollins Mourning noise and stuff! may 3rd why aids is considered more important Re: Misfits Bible, #171 Misfits Invade Richmond ATTENTION ALL PROVIDENCE FIENDS clear - turqoise Evilive Chicago = Misfits Haven Bobby Steele a late bio partner dont you pull no gun (fwd) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:01:41 -0700 From: devilman138 Subject: Records For Sale The following are for sale: Legacy of Brutality (white vinyl) - $95 Evilive 12" (green vinyl) _ $45 Wolfs Blood/Earth A.D. (german pressing on blk. viynl) - $50 November Coming Fire (orange vinyl) - $95 devilman138 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 02:25:26 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Yo BOBBY: I tried to post last time, but every time I did, someone called. About your comments about Jerry. I think I finally get it. I think before I was a little too blinded by hero worship, while I still think he's a cool guy, I can finally understand your point. If I knew someone, had an argument going with them, and wasn't allowed to even settle it out with them, I'd be pretty peeved. I've been known to say shit I didn't really mean, but sounded damn good at the time, when in arguments with friends over comparitively petty shit. Somehow I see you checking out Tokyo. Tokyo is where the punk scene is, where you can get all those cool imports (well, I guess they're exports), it's got a shitload of people, and it sounds real cool. The first time I'll be able to check out 'mainland' Japan is in 12 days. I'll be stopping in Osaka, another big city on the main island of Honshu. I live in Okinawa, a really small island. It's got its own feel. We lost our decent music scene, which was mainly our friends, who left once they got enough money to go to Tokyo. Just one thing about Okinawa, it's got more folk songs than any other Japanese island, it's also one of the smallest islands. Oh, by the way, I can read Jap-English (that funky weird looking English) and Japanese (but I speak it a lot better). I've noticed that they view us as the "cool" people. They're a little too into the whole James Dean, Coca Cola, red whit and blue thing. A lot of people in mainland want to be america, some try to be punk, and some reject American shit all together. In Okinawa, it was a lot of hip-hop wannabes who try to fit in with idiot GIs and then there were some who thought for themselves. I still see those people as having a lot more energy, a lot more life than a lot of people here, wasn't it Plato who decried the evils of critics and those who find fault with everything? I guess it's a double edged sword, but then again you can cry about how bad it is, or you can point out places where you hope for change... Mirachi (is that right?): I have one basic argument with what you said. I agree with most of it, but you can not say that they are "no where near glenn lyrically". I see the the new breed as writing more of a story-telling, sci-fi genre of lyrics. The old lyrics had a lot of gore, aggression, and catchy choruses. I think the new stuff paints a picture, not dissimilar to L. Ron Hubbard, classic sci-fi, and X-files. Maybe they've gone from writing about zombies to writing about Invaders from Mars... I've also never heard the new lyrics, with the new music. Maybe the new lyrics are perfect for the new rhythms... 12 more days....12moredays...12 more days.... I think I've suffered long enough.... laterz Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:29:43 -0500 From: ^HepCat^ Subject: RE: Politics & the Bible Tarry_Carapezza said: >Your right, I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. (Check my address) (Terry_Carapezza@dpc.senate.gov) So you're all hot shit cause you have a government e-mail address???? I'll let you know that there a hell of a lot of dumbass bullshit politicians in washington, I don't know who you are, or if you are one of them, but just because your e-mail address has ".gov" at the end doesn't mean you are always right about politics, most politicians don't care what the truth is, they just want to fill their pockets with OUR $$$ while bitching and moaning about other peoples mistakes. Just thought I'd let you know, that you don't know everything. ----------- ^HepCat^ ----------- ------------------------------ From: MCalvinK@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:10:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #171 This is my first time writing! I must admit I only became a fan of the MisFiTs after jumping on the Metallica bandwagon! I only found out that I like the MisFiTs better than I do Metallica! I am probably one the few in Alaska who like the MisFiTs! I also have a couple of questions. I keep hearing about this MisFiTs box set! Where do I get my own? What's in it? Also do any members have bootlegs of Metallica doing MisFiTs songs besides Last Caress/Green Hell? Like London Dungeon,etc.? Calivin K. M Calvin K@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 10:34:07 UT From: Patricia Svedberg Subject: bored at 3:00 am just wondering if anybody knows if EVILIVE the german pressing 12 inch is supposed to have a sleeve with reviews of other albums(Angry Samoans, Necros,GBH,etc)in german?i was given the album in the mid 80's and asked to see the album at a store on melrose and the sleeve was blank.i was also wondering if anybody had heard of the Beyond Evil CD it's pretty cool.as far as the poser punk band thing goes Rancid's ok, i saw op-ivy in '88 the singer started out saying something like"we have a punk,a skin,and a hippie in our band,i'm not saying we're a punk,oi,or ska band we're just music"why don't some of you adopt this attitude and get over your "more punk than thou"attitude it got old in the 80's,and it's just plain silly in the 90's. and another thing,when are the Misfits gonna play LA i know some good "punk" bands that could open for you kid's. by the way op-ivy opened for ill-repute that night and ill-repute got their asses kicked and equipment stolen(how's that for punk rock)if anybody cares to hear the story e-mail me(everybody i know has heard it at least 3 times and i need to tell more people:)try me at trishandmike@loop.com XOXOXO, MIKE,26,VIRGO(more punk than thou can ever be)get it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 11:51:28 UT From: Patricia Svedberg Subject: bible stories 1)mike guerrero 2)9-17-69 3)i just worked at the VH1 honors thing,other than that i hang out 4)Misfit's,Sonic Youph,op-ivy,DK,Minor Threat,Bottom12,Nameless,Blackjax,60's ska,most 2-Tone ska, Mephiskaphelles,Beastie Boys,Tribe Called Quest,Sex Gang Children,X,Steely dan,Battalion of Saints,teen idles,older Ministry,etc,etc 5)i saw Slayer w/DRI in '85 and moved on to other punk bands,then i was given the the EVILIVE 12inch (from germany) and was hooked, i finally got my Misfits tattoo about 4-5 years ago and will never regret it because it reminds me of everything good that punk was and might be again(the unity, the cool shows, etc). 6)vacations,cooking,golf,spanking cats,my fiance Trisha,sittin' in front of the pc all night,hanging out w/friends,and trying to find Misfits records i don't have at a reasonable price,oh and eating Ultimate Cheeseburgers w/extra sauce from Jack in the Box . 7)i don't remember the last book i read,but Animal Farm or most Kurt Vonneget books are my favorites(did i spell that right?) (question for Tammy Shapiro)is FOD still around? trishandmike@loop.com(if we cancelled our other online service) ------------------------------ From: Tarry_Carapezza@dpc.senate.gov Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:09:21 EST Subject: Re: hello fellow fiend... >Tarry , > I was wondering if anyone was going to flame me or not! Anyway , you may >have taken some of that a little too seriously. Notice , I said "most" of you >, not "all" of you. Also , I did not blame wellfare for all our problems , it >WAS merely a smartass statement! I am not against wellfare completely , I am >for wellfare reform. I AM against wellfare abuse. I also did not blame the >poor for a single thing . I am not ignorant about our government by any means > > Yours >, > > Keith >PS - got anything to ease the burn form that flame? O.K., so I went a little overboard. I appologize. I get kinda agsty here in this city. I'm around knowitall blowhards all day. Occasionally, I get a bit steamed. -Tarry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:28:51 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: I am a loser Okay, just for all you morons who bit the bait like that guy Adam "seven" did, I DID NOT BREAK INTO WES THOMAS' ACCOUNT. I don't even know who this moron is; it's just another random flamebait he threw out. Duhh!! And what the fuck kind of nickname is "Seven"? What, do you wish George from Seinfeld could be your father or something?? YAAAY!! FLAMEWAR! FORGET THE MISFITS... TEEVIE'S AN ASSHOLE! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:18:08 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Ooops... Okay, there's a good reason for this post. I was thinking about my last post, which was supposed to be a recreation of the posts that kept getting interrupted, I left a few important points out. Bobby: When I said Japanese view us as the "cool" people, I was referring to high school, where people follow someone else's lead in hopes to "fit it". I also wanted to give some of my view on college, in relation to what you said. I go to a school where frat boys and atheletes rule the school. It's kind of scary, the school supports both institiutions, both have members that are "allowed" to commit crimes, both encourage a corruption of what college is really for: to expand your mind, and none of this is the fault of the average student. Rich frat daddies and star ball players are the ones most likely to have connections after college,too. I'm not saying that anyone in either can spell their name if it's not written on their shirt or name tag, but they get the most opportunities. Imagine that, they go to college to party, get laid, and drink, and they're lauded for doing so.....someone get me outta here.... Laterz, HorrorKid "Don't you see all the trouble that most people are in And that they just want you for their own advantage But I SWEAR to you we're different than all of THEM.... ....All we want to do is change your mind ....All we you need to do is close your eyes" -excerpts form Bad REligion's Come Join Us ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:52:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Russell Subject: also sprach brett This is a reference to Friedrich Nietzsche's "Also Sprach Zarathustra" (Thus Spoke Zarathustra), a very fine book which is quoted in the Army of Nostradamus Manifesto, as if anybody was interested. aon-1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:05:55 -0500 (EST) From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #171 Adam7: I am going to kill you Mark: Ban some of these assholes before I get really upset with you CG: So, like what's the address of your new page again? Pat: I love you Teevie: fuck you Angle Fuck: Shut up Brett: Suck my fucking anus Bill: Fuck yourself Brad: Fuck you Mike: You are the only interesting one on the bible Scumfuck: You are a political genius Moe: You are going to get it Ryan: Keep you're homosexual tendencies off the bible Kieth: You and your antisemitic ways deserve to be flamed Ken: I haven't forgotten what you said you cum guzzler The 500 members who never post dick: Fuck you Also, what do you guys think of Communism. I mean, I know it didn't work in the U.S.S.R., but they didn't control 80% of the world's resources. Can't we divid this mass of goods to the mere 5% of the world populaton that we maintain here in the US? Wes Thomas is the coolest bible member. Sebastian "I never could fuck with so many people at once 'till I came to BSU" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:39:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scumfuck" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #171 Hey adam christensen, Well just thought i would respond to your flame, i didn't state that the movie didn't exist, or that lon chaney didn't exist, i have even seen the movie. I p just stated that there was a play before the movie. I had to read a play versi on way back in like the 8th grade, before the broadway production by whatzhisna me. Well just thought i would state correct that one for you, If you want my real name just check a few bibles back. Also does anybody else found that they are missing mommy can i go out and kil t onight? i have checked all the disks, just to make sure, but it definately isn 't there, maybe mine are just flawed i was wondering? anybody know what types of pedals were used on the albums? I was wondering thi would be a great addition to the web page? maybe you can help bobby? well any help would be appreciated. And possibly the gear that was used to record, inclu ding guitar years and models. ------------------------------ Subject: i'm full of hell/all kinds of hell Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:19:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Richard Duran Also schrieb PRH: > Brett F:(hope you dont think i am picking on you!)(i mean, two > responses in a row...)Sprach means "spake" or to speak, in Deutsch, > right Keith138? Peter M? yep. was meant as a take on "also sprach zarathustra". i've since decided that "wrote" (or some variant..."writ"?) would be more appropriate in the context of email. now i'm using "schrieb". is this correct keith138? peter m? flex? > tip o'the hat. I need Boris Karloffs b'day, and death date if any of > you know this. email me at . Thanks to all in advance. patricia, i got this info from the i-net movie data base. you can see it at http://www.msstate.edu/M/person-biography?aCAD56 anyway, here's the bio it has on the man: Real name William Henry Pratt Date of birth (location) 23 November 1887, London, England Date of death (location/cause) 2 February 1969 Trivia Died of respiratory disease in Midhurst, Sussex, England. |-+ gut-ripper +-| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:17:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Asselin Subject: Jerry Only: S.O.S Jerry may be a nice guy. I don't know, I've never talked to him. What I do know is that Jerry Only should immediately stop giving interviews, because clearly interviewers everywhere are twisting his words and making him look like an ass. Nobody could be as dumb as he is being: In the course of 2 interviews (Juice and Metal Maniacs), Jerry has managed to trash Glenn Danzig, Henry Rollins, Greg Ginn, Dave Vanian, and Bobby Steele (indirectly). He's accused Bon Jovi and Metallica of ripping him off and says everything Caroline has released before the box set is shit (even though all that stuff made up half the box set). We get to hear how "if it wasn't for [Jerry] and Doyle there wouldn't be a Misfits... [or a Samhain, or a Danzig]" and hear how Glenn's band sucks [although they wanted Glenn because he has 200,000 fans]. Jerry ought to speak to someone else who's been in the same position and ask for advice. My suggestion would be to talk to Kevin DuBrow, the old (still?) vocalist for Quiet Riot. I'm sure he has an interesting perspective on the "I'm-great,-everyone-else-sucks" style of publicity. It's up to you, Mark. You're the only one who can save Jerry from himself. - Dave pmack@shore.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:01:48 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: Fiend Club? (and a couple of other things) Hey fiends, WHat's the deal with the FIEND CLUB? I dropped a line to the address, but have gotten no response. I just wanted to find out more info on the Club (no, ass-dumb- not the one that goes on yer steering wheel). Also, was the idea of a Bible T-SHIRT dropped? PATRICIA, I think you should put Walpurgis Night (Germanic Halloween-ish thing) on the calendar. Has anyone noticed that the songs on the 'Fits Box Set CD covers do not correspond to the order in which they are actually played? Also, about the BOX SET and the GETTING TO KNOW YOU Bible issue: there is an interesting MINOR THREAT connection in both. Lyle Preslar, guitarist for MT, was the exec. producer for the box set. Also in the getting to know you bible issue, it seemed like almost everyone who posted said that they dig MT. You guys rock! Has anyone ever read the issue of SECONDS magazine (#31 from last Spring) with the DANZIG interview? It's quite interesting. He talks a bit about RACE and POLITICS, and what he thinks about Farrakhan and stuff like that (I think it was in response to questions about "White Devil Rise."). I thought that maybe some of you would be interested, especially those guys who posted NO REMORSE and BFG as some of their favorite bands. Lastly, a few issues ago, someone posted stuff about MARTIAL ARTS. If any of y'all are into Muay Thai, Western Boxing, Filipino Martial Arts (Escrima/Kali), or even weight training, e-mail me! Thanks for yer patience, fiends. Out of Step, Ben ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Let the dreams you have forgotten equal the value of what you do not know." -Andre Breton ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:27:42 EDT Subject: other bands! I have a question for any knowledgable fiends out there about some bands, that I have heard of, but have just never picked up anything by them, and I am wondering what they sound like, ie-comparisons, etc..\ Fear GBH Dickies White Flag Minutemen also i have some non-misfits stuff for sale: Earth Crisis-"destroy the machine" 12" $9 Raid-"Above the Law" 12" $10 check out my bands homepage at www.mooniste.com/lipmonger/ bye our demo for 2 bux! Adam kriney 36 jackson Street #2 long branch, nj 07740 oops, our homepage is at www.moonsite.com/lipmonger/ Bobby Steele-did you get my band's demo? goatmonger app ptyc ------------------------------ From: Sean Weintz/NETLAN Date: 29 Apr 96 20:56:18 EDT Subject: better late....Than never! OK... Hopefully I'm not the only one who hasn't sent in his/her stats yet. Here goes. 1) My Name Is Sean Weintz (I use CORPSE on IRC #MISFITS) 2) DOB: 12/19/1967 (28 yrs old, i think...) 3) Work: Consultant for Chemical/Chase Manhattan Bank. I am currently helping move/reconfigure networks for the recent merger between Chase Manhattan and Chemical banks in New York. 4) Other Bands: Agnostic Front, Negative Approach, Minor Threat, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Dead Kennedys, Murphy's Law (except the time Jimmy Gestapo dumped a gallon of beer on my head), etc, etc. 5) Got into the Misfits when I heard the Metallica cover of Last Caress, about 1988 or so. A friend who was trying to get me into Danzig had played me his 1st album. I had always like hardcore/punk and metla, so he thought I might like it. Halfway through the first song my reaction was "well, this is pretty dull". Then he played Metallica's cover of LAST CARESS, and told me Glenn wrote it. I was an instant fan. I love the bible, Keep up the good work Mark! Sean Weintz Sean_Weintz@Netlan.com ------------------------------ From: Sean Weintz/NETLAN Date: 29 Apr 96 21:17:13 EDT Subject: Opus' Post about Jerry and Rollins in regards to Opus' post: >I can say from personal experience that Henry is one hell of a person. He >was kind enough to help my brother out with some problems after one of his >shows here. Henry is an incredible person with a hell of a brain. Personaly, I can see why Jerry might have a problem with Henry. My own limited experience with him taught me that he can be a real DICK (even though I still think he's a genius) If you ask him something he doesn't want to deal with or talk about, he'll get a real impatient tone to his voice and give you a snap answer that makes you feel like scum for asking. If you ask him something he wants to talk about, he's the coolest guy in the world. Real Helpful. He probably used that nasty tone with Jerry........ and I'm sure ROBO could have figured out for himself to get a lawyer. Anyway, what the hell does Henry care about ROBO? Last time he saw him was when he was detained in England on tour. When He got back to the US, Henry and Greg already had already replaced him (with Bill Stevenson, I believe), and that was how he wound up playing for the Misfits in the first place. I doubt Henry's advice was a serious attempt to help. More of a passive aggressive way of telling Jerry "Shut up and leave me alone about Robo's problems" ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:05:17 EDT Subject: Mourning noise and stuff! Does anyone else find it really interesting/weird/odd that so many of the memebers of mourning noise/samhain/misfits/undead where all in the same bands at different times. Does anyone know if ABC NO RIO in New York still does punk shows, and if so, does anyone have the number for booking there, I would really realy appreciate it! adamonger check out the lipmonger homepage at www.moonsite.com/lipmonger ------------------------------ From: Jer138@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:59:04 -0400 Subject: may 3rd Any fiends out there that are going to the stone pony may third show that wanna meet or whatever - send me something. jer138@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: why aids is considered more important Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:33:38 -0400 (EDT) well i may be slightly biased on this subject, since i've got the bloody thing. i think it scares more people, especially since its so contagious. you can't get emphazema(sp) from sex, unless you get a bundle o joy/pain/etc. people are scared of it since its such a deadly killer, blame that on the media. i think that the gov. should werk at a cure of the more dealy diseases, but fighting aids is so much more pc. i mean to see someone healthy one day and nearly dying the next is quite the shock. also people w/ aids are more vocal about it, and if enough people yell eventually someone hears it. also a juicy tidbit. the sisters o mercy are fronting the sex pistols for 3 dates in germany. i've heard rumors from the reptile house that they may, just may, support them over here in the good ole usa. -- Paul Hahn If you think there's a solution hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu then you're part of the problem. Check out the speedball page @ http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul/speedball ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:32:51 From: Bobby Steele Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #171 >From: NJV aka Misfitt >Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 23:28:00 +0000 >Subject: Not fits related, but "punk" > >Scum****, and others, > >I saw in a couple of "bios", that there are some of the fiends are >also Hanoi Rocks fans--(makes sense--HR was a band before its time, like > the >misfits, and have been copied by HM as well as punk bands). I have a >lot of HR stuff--video, import vinyl, and original releases (not the >Slash re-releases), and Michael Monroe's first solo album Here's a little tidbit of info for HANOI ROCKS fans. HR's manager was RICHARD BISHOP - of BONAPARTE records. He was the person responsible for releasing BEWARE. Michael Monroe was inspired to playing after he bought BEWARE. He's a big FITS fan. He let Richard manage him because of his ties to the MISFITS. In 1993, he did a series of gigs in New York. I had the honor of playing HORROR BUSINESS , NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD and SEARCH AND DESTROY with him at three or four of these shows. Mickael is a really great guy, but he moved back to Finland after getting fed up with being fucked over by the business too often. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:37:14 -0400 From: She Subject: Misfits Invade Richmond Hey Fiends - On 4/29/96, The Misfits put on the best show I've ever seen. It was the first night of the tour - Richmond, VA. Anyway, first of all, Sheer Terror is off the tour, replaced by some band called Uranium 235, but at this show the opening band was Both Worlds. A lot happened at the show. I visited with the band on the tour bus for a bit and hung out with big John Grimm (he'll be doing the T-shirt table until the Lancaster show) and met quite a few Misfits Bible people, including Bobby Lust who apparently had travelled all the way from Alaska to make it to the show... unless he's been lying to us about where he really comes from. So, The Misfits took the stage at 9:30pm and left about an hour later. It was a blast of wild energy with Michale, Doyle and Jerry looking especially good. The set list: Halloween * Horror Business * I Turned Into A Martian Death Comes Ripping * All Hell Breaks Loose * The Hunger * Static Age * TV Casualty * Hybrid Moments * Last Caress * Skulls Devils Whorehouse * Return Of The Fly * Teenagers From Mars Children In Heat * Violent World * Vampira * Blacklight * The Haunting 20 Eyes * Hollywood Babylon * Horror Hotel * Ghouls Night Out Attitude * London Dungeon * Astro Zombies * We Are 138 (with Sal B from Sardonica) * Some Kinda Hate * American Nightmare * Mommy... Who Killed Marilyn? * Nike A Go Go * Come Back * Die Die My Darling That's a lot of songs, done fast. Michale is getting better and better. He really does a great job and he looked like he really was enjoying himself. There was something I saw tonight that kind of bothered me. After the show Jerry was doing his usual hanging out session with the Fiends, just talking and signing autographs and having a great time. He was talking to some guy about the DC show and out of nowhere the guy asks him if he can be put on the guest list for that show. I thought that was just plain wrong. The guest list is for friends of the band and it just seems pretty bad to go asking the band if you can be put on it, just so you don't have to pay for the ticket. Other than this, the evening was great. There is lots of new Misfits stuff on sale, including the Earth AD shirt. Whenever you buy something, remember to say hi to big John Grimm. You can't miss him, and he's got a great sense of humor. That's all. Oh yeah.... notice that very few Earth AD tunes were played? There's a reason. Jerry and Doyle don't like that stuff much. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 13:46:04 EDT From: Ken Graf Subject: ATTENTION ALL PROVIDENCE FIENDS OK guys, I've unsubscribed to the bible for the summer so this will be my last post. I am going to the MISFITS SHOW IN PROVIDENCE this saturday. I would really like to meet some of you guys. Look for me there and don't be shy, I'm a hell of a guy. In order to stand out a bit from the sea of crimson ghost shirts, I will be wearing a WHITE GWAR SHIRT. Look for this. I will also be with a rather large guy who may somewhat look like he doesn't belong there. Look for him and try to spot my shirt next to him. To make finding eachother easier, the designated meeting place will be in front of the merchandise stand after all of the opening bands are over. Don't worry about getting up front early for the misfits, the club is fucking tiny. I hope to see some of you down there. Have a great summer! --Lord Kenatos ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:52:25 -0400 Subject: clear - turqoise Evilive Someone ( Adam Segal ?? ) said they got a sealed clear turqoise Evilive LP. Cool , cuz I 've got one that was pressed probably pretty close to yours. It's almost clear with just a light green tinge. There are several darker green streaks running through it. My guess is these were from the start of the run ,I don't know. Like Mark said though , it boils down to that they are just green , cuz that was the only color press for Evilive. One question I might raise is this : If it was "sealed" how did the person selling it know to advertise it as "Clear-Turqoise"?? I remember my friend Robin buying one brand new when they were first issued , and the label said something like "Colored Vinyl Limited Edition of 1000." Or something close to that. Anyway , my point is that if it was really still sealed the caroline sticker should have read "green" or "colored" , but I don't think they would have put on "clear-turqoise." Sometimes dealers are low. - Keith ------------------------------ From: Gouge3@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:54:22 -0400 Subject: Chicago = Misfits Haven This is in response to ChristoTen's comment about being at The Thirsty Whale in Chicago and seeing lots of Misfits shit... You are 100% correct my fellow fiend! I've found that the interest in The Misfits is quite huge out here. I bet I've seen you at The Whale too. My band, TERATA, has played there numerous times in the last 5 months and we always play a couple of Misfits covers every time! Any other fellow Chicago Fiends who want to see a band, TERATA, which is heavily influenced by The Misfits - E-mail me personally about May's gigs. We'll be on the Web soon, too. Gouge comes ripping ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 00:02:39 GMT Subject: Bobby Steele From: Smith Family Being a musician is a job, but that doesn't have to be the only reason someone is one. Money is great, but it's not the best thing in the world and I think the Misfits know that. Don't get all pissed that you are being dicked out of money or what ever your arguement is. And please don't go around saying this is some plot to dick all of US out of money. If your so damn mad about the money than talk to Jerry or whoever about it, not the fans. Many people devote all or alot of their time to make this thing (the band, the Fiend Club, the bible, etc.) work. This is a great thing they got goin' for themselves and they do a hell of alot mare for their fans than mostly anyone today. I think you should understand the concept of money by now, Bobby. ------------------------------ From: Mike Schneir Subject: a late bio Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:28:48 -0700 (PDT) I know this is __way__ late, but I've been way too busy, so please forgive: 1) Real Name - Mike Schneir 2) Birthday - Feb 16. (birthdate '69) 3) Where you go to school, what are you studying, and or where you work - I graduated with a history degree from UCSD (Revelle College - home of more GE requirements than you can shake a stick at). My minor was Cognitive Psychology, and since Revelle is pretty much UCSD's school for science majors, and I went w/ liberal arts, I actually ended up getting a pretty broad education. But not a job. So giving up on the idea of going to grad school for History and then still being unemployed, I decided to be a computer programmer, so I got a programming job at AirTouch Communications in the San Francisco area, and then studied Computer Science at Berkeley for two years, to get some kind of "official" education in my field. I still work for AirTouch. But now I sort of want to teach again... 4) Other bands you like - too many to list. Top picks are probably Pink Floyd, Rush, Bauhaus, Minor Threat, Descendents, Kiss (through Love Gun), but also up there are old Metallica, Bach, Iron Maiden (through Powerslave), The Clash, Peter Tosh, old ACDC, Diamond Head, DeeeLite (yup), The Orb, Air Liquide, and just about any thing else punk, metal, techno, reggae, ambient, rock, or whatever, at least somewhat (trying to keep this short). Especially if it's funny (and sooths my jaded sensibilities ;). 5) What got you interested in the Misfits - Back in high school ('86) I met a guy who was into Misfits/Samhain, and of course I saw the shirts all over the place, so I started listening. I liked Samhain better at first, but soon grew to like the Misfits a whole hell of a lot more, starting when I noticed their lyrics were a lot funnier (same reason I started liking Kiss, and one of the reasons I like Maiden). 6) What are your other interests - Religious history, philosophy, computers, guitar, psychology, reading, I forget. 7) What is the last book you read - "I and Thou", by Martin Buber. See ya, -mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: PRH Subject: partner dont you pull no gun (fwd) hey fiends, sorry i was possessed by Richard Hell after a week of writing on the Operators Manual with CG...... i am gonna miss hearing from Adam and Warhammer...you guys fukin rule as you like to say... stay in touch and we will see ya next fall....oooh! thats a great song...well, I'll see you in september! Keith 138 says the response to the misfits/samhain/danzig/undead zine is picking up. Well, I think it is really good even if i had nothing to do with it....its gonna get even better too.. ok a couple of responses... Tarry: btw it is ERRONEOUS not erronious. figures you work for the fed. r.duran and jolantha: thanks a lot! :) the calendar is shaping up nice thanks to fiends like you all.... bobby, we miss you a lot please post all you can. dont forget, check out CG's web page...http://www.planet.net.CrimsonGhost/om and if you want to learn about REAL rock and roll...check it out.. later.... patricia ::'as the day stops dead on the place where we're lost..'--h.devoto:::: :::: :::::: :::: patricia ragan hoehner :::::: :::: nrwidow@netcom.com :::::: :::: Quicklime Girl :::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Green Evilive Bass Pedals Have no doubt, the new misfits rule Re: Misfits Bible, #172 DC done Here we go again... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 00:32:39 -0400 (EDT) From: David Jacobs Subject: come on that juice interview was great the best ive ever read, id say, i loved it sometimes when people are honest about shit it looks like the media messed up their words but get used to honesty "Glenn's ship is a fucking submarine" and all these people have been saying that the misfits arent the misfits without mr. sinking yellow but come on come on! all he did was write the songs, and anyone can come up with that shit, and those words????? come on, they are redic! redic to the MAX! the misfits are great because 1) energy 2) humor 3) style 4) d-i-y attitude that never quits 5) hair and other reasons too so i think we should make no mistake, the misfits touring right now are the real deal. no doubt about it, 100% misfits. anyone else going to the cleveland show? rumor has it mark k. will be there...................................... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:18:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: German Pressings- inner sleeve To the guy/girl/thing that asked about the inner sleeve of Evilive... Yeah, some of the records that AggressiveRock Productions put out had inner sleeves or gatefolds with pictures of other albums (punk if you will). These aren't reviews though... they were advertising other stuff they distributed (I recall Angry Samoans being on there) At least that was what was on this german edition of Every Thing Went Black I had (damn it.. not anymore) It also had very badly edited lyrics but hell.. at least it had lyrics! laters jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:13:47 -0400 From: "Smith's" Subject: zine Dear Sirs, My name is Igor and I have a DC based punk/ ska zine called Nervous Breakdown. We were on the April MoonSka Zines to check out and the Epitaph list. Our circulation depends on the money we have but at a min, we put out 400. We are looking for ads*, letters, stuf to be reviued@, guest writing etc. If you send us something well send you a copy. We want basically anything you have. For a copy of it send a S.A.S.E. or 2 dollars to: Igor- Nervous Breakdown 307 Charles Alexander Ct. Alexandria, VA 22301-1500 Thanx, Igor Questions?? Comments?? Write to: Ssnake@erols.com *Our policy on ads is the are free unless they are a page or bigger. The cost for that is 15 dollars or 40% of sales directly related to the zine. Any thing smaller is free, but we only have a few pages for free ads so if you bribe us you have a better chance!! @For rewiews send 2 copys of what ever you want us to review and will review it. ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #172 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 01:39:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: 01wethomas@bsuvc.bsu.edu > > Mark: Ban some of these assholes before I get really upset with you I won't ban anyone... not even you - I've gotten a lot of requests to have Wes Thomas removed, but as far as I'm concerned only Wes Thomas can remove Wes Thomas. It's very easy to have an email account suspended. Just take several samples of the 'offensive' message and forward them on to the system operator of the user's host along with some sort of message. For instance, if I found YOU offensive, I could do something like this: -->To: root@bsuvc.bsu.edu or postmaster@bsu.edu -->Subject: Offensive email To whom it may concern: I have received several vulgar messages from one of your users and am very offended. Please do something to put a stop to this apparently extremely rude individual. Below is one of his recent messages: > Teevie: fuck you > Angle Fuck: Shut up > Brett: Suck my fucking anus > Bill: Fuck yourself > Brad: Fuck you > Ryan: Keep you're homosexual tendencies off the bible > Ken: I haven't forgotten what you said you cum guzzler > The 500 members who never post dick: Fuck you > > Sebastian "I never could fuck with so many people at once 'till I came to BSU" But I would never do this, because it's just not my thing. > From: "Scumfuck" > Also does anybody else found that they are missing mommy can i go out and kil > onight? i have checked all the disks, just to make sure, but it definately is > 't there, maybe mine are just flawed i was wondering? What disks are you talking about? You must not be talking about the Earth AD CD, the first compilation CD, or the box set. > anybody know what types of pedals were used on the albums? I was wondering th > would be a great addition to the web page? maybe you can help bobby? well an > help would be appreciated. And possibly the gear that was used to record, incl > ding guitar years and models. Well, Franche' played an explorer, Jerry used a Rickenbacker (spelling?), Glenn used his voice, Doyle played an Iceman Paul Stanley model, and Bobby recently told us what he plays. Drums, I don't know about. > From: Ben Todd > Subject: Fiend Club? (and a couple of other things) > > Hey fiends, > WHat's the deal with the FIEND CLUB? I dropped a line to the > address, but have gotten no response. I just wanted to find out more > info on the Club (no, ass-dumb- not the one that goes on yer steering wheel). Hey! Check out the web page. It explains that the band is very busy. They are touring, etc. No new members are going to get membership packages, but they will receive all future mailings. So just be patient. You'll get something eventually. > Also, was the idea of a Bible T-SHIRT dropped? Nope. As soon as all the ideas come in, we'll have to vote and select the best one. > From: ? > figured out for himself to get a lawyer. Anyway, what the hell does Henry care > about ROBO? Last time he saw him was when he was detained in England on tour. > When He got back to the US, Henry and Greg already had already replaced him > (with Bill Stevenson, I believe), and that was how he wound up playing for the > Misfits in the first place. I doubt Henry's advice was a serious attempt to Well, sort of. They did hang out at least once afterwards - The Misfits opened for Black Flag on June 10, 1983 and there is even a picture on the page of the Misfits hanging out with Rollins that very day. Rollins wasn't really in charge of SST. It seems to have been mostly Gregg Ginn's thing. Now I have almost exhausted my knowledge of Black Flag. > From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu > Subject: Mourning noise and stuff! > > Does anyone else find it really interesting/weird/odd that so many > of the memebers of mourning noise/samhain/misfits/undead where all > in the same bands at different times. Of course. I always mention this to Bobby. It was incestomania in Lodi, NJ. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 06:47:40 -0500 From: ^HepCat^ Wes Thomas: Piss off Wes Thomas: Suck my balls Wes Thomas: Lick my rectim Wes Thomas: Kiss My Ass Wes Thomas: You are full of shit Wes Thomas: You do nothing but bitch and moan Wes Thomas: you are a little shit Wes Thomas: You fuck aardvarks Wes Thomas: You eat dogs shit Wes Thomas: You think your hot shit Wes Thomas: you probably have really long ass hair Wes Thomas: you probably braid that really long ass hair Anyone Object? I didnt think so. "Wes Thomas is the coolest bible member." Yea, uh huh. This Day Anything Goes, Burning Bodies Hang From Poles, I Remember Halloween. ---------- ^HepCat^ ---------- ------------------------------ From: Tarry_Carapezza@dpc.senate.gov Date: Wed, 01 May 96 10:25:28 EST Subject: here we go again... 'elliottm@accessus.net' said: >Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:29:43 -0500 >From: ^HepCat^ >Subject: RE: Politics & the Bible > >Tarry_Carapezza said: > >>Your right, I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. (Check my >>address) (Terry_Carapezza@dpc.senate.gov) first off dumb-ass, you spelled my name wrong. My name is spelled 'Tarry'. You got it right the first time, at least. >So you're all hot shit cause you have a government e-mail address???? >Just thought I'd let you know, that you don't know everything. >I don't know who you are, but just because your e-mail address has ".gov" at >the end doesn't mean you are always right about politics Who thinks I'm 'hot shit'? You? Thanx! I'm glad you reminded me I don't know everything. I was beginning to forget. No, actually when it comes to government, I'd be willing to bet I know a bit more than you do. Being that I'm here in the thick of it. I'm assuming that since you have an e-mail account that you can read. However, I have to question that assumption, seeing as that you obviously didn't read my post. Did I ever say, "I know everything"? No. Did I ever say, "I'm always right about politics"? No. >I'll let you know that there a hell of a lot of dumbass bullshit politicians in >washington, most politicians don't care what the truth is, >they just want to fill their pockets with OUR $$$ while bitching and moaning >about other peoples mistakes. As ashamed as I am to admit it, I actually agree with you on this one. No, you don't have to tell me about dumbass politicians. I see Bob Dole on a daily basis. I see Senators vote consistantly to raise their own salaries (paid for by us), but then say that increasing the minimum wage would wreck the economy. In conclusion, Mr. Hepcat please read someone's post before you decide to flame them. My post was a response (an over-zealous one at that) to someone who said some people on the Bible had no clue about government. I was simply tring to say, I acually do know something about government. Wait, didn't we agree to keep to keep Politics off the Bible? -Tarry ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 14:55:44 GMT0BST Subject: to Wes the Shite-meister Hey asshole, How's it going Wes? I'm one of those 500 people who never post shit. I think you like to be shat on by everone, you get off on it. As for communism, it's only possible with the species/ being. And, of course, you are a perfect example of the compassionate, highly intelligent species/being. Have you ever considered enjoying the comments of the other bible members? I would like to see Danzig personally kick your ass. Now that would be fucking hilarious!!! It gives me the giggles just to think about it. Who else out there would pay a large sum of money to see Danzig, Jerry, and Doyle gang up on big mouth Wesley? Doctor Aaron Proctor, M.D. Proctology (it's the way to be) P.S. Fuck you! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:21:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scumfuck" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #172 In the question about Kevin Dubrow, yeah he is still the vocalist for quiet rio t, everybody else left the band a while back. They are still recycling the Ran dy Rhoads riffs, and pretty much suck now. they had an album come out a few mo nths back called down to the bone, don't bother it sucks. ------------------------------ From: "T.M. Korhonen" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:16:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #172 HR I know this is not much to do with the Misfits, but as I can see there are some fiends that like Hanoi Rocks, I decided to drop a line about HR. Mike Monroe has a new band in Finland and they'll start touring in Finland at the beginning of June, by doing some rock festival gigs. Tiina p.s. Bobby, or anyone: Do you know a group called D- Generation? Are they still playing together? Do they still run the club in N.Y.? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:16:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scumfuck" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #172 Gee Wes you sound like a GG allin concert, have to get in flames to everybody b efore you go. You are right you are the coolest member on the bible. "Two necrophiliacs laying in bed, each wishing the other was deas" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 14:26:15 -0400 From: Justin Holt Subject: Winston -Salem show I drove about 250 miles to this show I am not regretting the drive there. This show was fucking great! Michale is damn good!Glenn will not be missed by me at all.Michale was great on stage.He seemed to really be enjoying himself.Chud was good too. That drum set is the shit! Jerry seemed to be having the best time out of everyone there. Jerry is the greatest. Me and a bunch of other people wre hanging around outside the place so we all walked in and watched them setup and when they started to do shoundcheck the guys that worked there were trying to kick every one out. Then Jerry stepped in in a told those guys to let us stay and watch. Later after sound check he gave us all autographed stickes and hung around with us for a while signing all of our stuff.After the show they all signed stuff and talked to everyone. It was a great night and I will be trying my best to make it to another show. ------------------------------ From: parksr@brunswickmicro.nb.ca Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:37:22 -0300 Nefarious fellow fiends, I was wondering if any of you (Mark?) Could tell me if the 'fits plan to do any canadian shows on their tour because i really want to see them. I also just got a bootleg video of a concert in new york around 1981-82. It rocks glen kicks the shit out of some guy who comes up on stage and rams into jerry. I would also like to say why don't we drop this fucking Wes Thomas thing. If he is an asshole fine, if teevie broke in to his account and was being an asshole fine. i don't think anyone really cares to much. Well keep hardcore. LAter Static Boy (michael parks) and i hold clame to this nick. Punk ain't no religious cult punk means thinking for yourself think yer hardcore cause u spike your hair but a jock still lives inside your head ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 16:05:26 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: april 30th at Ziggy's hey fiends, Well after so long a wait the show at Ziggys finally came! It was great. I was sent flyers through the mail and was surprised to see that I was on the guest list, I tried to put up as many as I could but I only got them one day before the show! Well another fieend here at school went with me and we made the half hour drive to Ziggys in Winston Salem NC. When we arrived I was surprised to see all the fiends there, as we are down south I didnt expect that many. Well I came in and hung around and noticed a familliar face at the Misfits merchandise table, it was none other then the arch fiend Jonothan Grimm. I spoke to him for awhile and then came the opening band Uranium 235, they went on about 9pm. They were OK they kinda sounded like NIN. The crowd was waiting for the misfits so they were not very emotional for them. During the Uranium set Jerry came out into the audience and took pictures with fans and signed autographs. He was very nice and talked to everyone. I waited till it settled down a bit to approach him. I shook his hand and he planted the most massive hug on me, almost knocked my ass over. I talked him about the WWW page and the bible, he was very happy with how things were going and love the page and the Bible. He made me know that it is very important that we always keep strong in regards to the bible. Well I got a picture with Jerry and tried to flex as best could for it! At the end of Uranium's set Jerry came on stage to get the crowd up, but they were done. Then Sardonica came on, they were great and the crowd picked it up a little but were still very tame. The great thing about the show was how each band helped out to get their gear ready. This was all the bands including the Misfits. At last the Misfits came on! They openned with Halloween and the whole night was one big sing along! Michale was great, he had it all, the voice the showmanship, and the balls to go into the crowd to pound on some people who were causing problems. One guy even lit up a joint and Michale popped him good! Doyle and Jerry were their usuall bad selves, didnt miss a beat! The band was tight and all te songs were played to perfection. Doyle was very quiet through the show but Jerry was on fire singing along to all the songs and just plain lovin' life. Michale would lean out into the crowd and put the microphone in your face to sing along. He had these gloves on that had claws on them and I tried to stay awya from the gloves when it swung my way. They had so much energy! Another highlight of the show was when Sal B. from Sardonica came out to sing along to "We are 138". They played last carress twice as a sing along for the second time time which was great. The Misfits left the stage for a short bit and then came on again they asked for requests and this guy named Thomas who a big fiend( It is great to meet fiends at these shows, I talked to him and told him about the WWW page) yells out Where Eagles Dare! And then a look just came across Jerrys face of excitment. They pulled Thomas up and had him sing the song! They played Jackle and American Nightmare, which was great cause they use they heavy guitars for that song. I was screaming for Die Die my darling, then Jerry came to me and said that was the last song they would do and to come up! So I hear the intro to die die my darling and Jerry comes over and pulls me on stage to sing. So I got on Jerry's mic and started screaming (I had sung along to all the songs and even treid to sing along to the new ones so my voice was dying down). Michale came over to me and we sang together. We were getting into it and I got caught in the mouth by Michale's claw glove! Then I just dove off the stage when they were done. It was the greatest time of my life, a real dream come true! After the show I hung around to get them to sign the new tour shirt. I waited till things settled down a bit I got some pictures of DR. Chud because he was barly seen from behind his drums. Chud was a great guy and I got a picturre with him also. It was funny because Sal B. from Sardonica was packing up the set and I was calling to DR.Chud and he said that he gave him that nick name. I got a shot with Doyle and he was checking my new tattoo that I just got. I got a picture with Doyle and michale. Then Chud came back to talk with me about things on the page and the old Misfits, So I got one with him infront of the drum kit. I went over to Jerry next who was being Mobbed by people and answering all sorts of questions. He just told me to send this back to all the fiends and make surte the pictures I take get to the page. He was so happy about the show and was teasing me about my singing! The one great thing he said was "Did you have a great time, That is the important thing".After that I went to the back to hang with Jonothan Grimm again and the Michale came up and we all started talking about the show and just kidding around allot. It was just the greatest show ever. Those of you who are worried about Michale filling in Glenns shoes, dont! He was the best they couldnt have picked a better singer. The new songs were great, it isnt another Kryst it is the Misfits, in every aspect to the word! I will never forget this show for the rest of my life. It will be great to tell all the little D-Rods that I got up on stage and sang with the GREATEST band in the world. A Fiend Forever D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:51:07 -0500 From: SCOTT EIDELMAN Subject: RECORDS FOR SALE/TRADE hey all i have the following records i'd like to trade or sell - MISFITS - Legacy of Brutality Lp WHITE VINYL MISFITS - Legacy of Brutality Lp white vinyl - Hatebreeders radio show boot lp - Live Night of the Living Dead boot Lp - Die Die My Darling 12" - 3 Hits From Hell orig 7" WHITE VINYL, WHITE COVER - Evilive 7" orig live sleave, sides taped - Halloween 7" orig no insert SAMHAIN - Inituim Lp orig on Plan 9 - On Earth as it...boot 7" PURPLE vinyl DANZIG - Who Killed Marylin 7" orig purple vinyl - Trouble Boot 7" 500 made - Dance of Death double 7" boot 500 made REPTILE HOUSE - I Stumble...7" orig I'd prefer to trade. I'm looking for lots of old punk stuff. I guess what doesn't get traded will be up for sort of an auction type thing. Email with any questions/bids/inquiries. I'll send a want list with a reply. And still looking for an original cough cool 7"... scott eidelman@psyphy.psych.wisc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 07:44:35 -0400 (EDT) From: CANIS Subject: re:172, acoustic Skulls Regarding the Juice interview: Dave Asselin: >What I do know is that Jerry Only should immediately >stop giving interviews, because clearly interviewers everywhere are >twisting his words and making him look like an ass. I hope you were joking in that post. When I interviewed Jerry for Juice, I taped the conversation and what you read in the article are his words exactly. I dont think that he actually meant for every word to have been taken as the Holy Truth, rather, he exaggerated certain facts to prove a point. If hes got a beef with Rollins or Greg Ginn, why wouldnt you want to know? Since Glenn isnt really fond of the return of the Misfits, why would Jerry say anything different than what he did? All said, I think most of the comments can be classified as talking shit, something thatUs been happening forever in the media. Jerry probably wants to stir things up after close to thirteen years of not being in the public eye, and it looks like it worked. I mean, look at how he got you to react. Sean Weintz: I agree with you 100% about Rollins. Ive been a Black Flag, and then Rollins fan since I saw Flag on the In My Head tour and Henry has changed a lot. Hes a _rock star_ now. BTW, I saw Greg Ginn a few years back in a tiny club with his solo band and about half of the set was early Flag tunes. Greg cant sing for shit, but it didnt matter because it still sounded great. Misfits covers tidbit: I was going through a tape of a radio show I did with my good friend Spike, and came across an interesting tune, The Lemonheads doing an acoustic version of Skulls. I believe it was a radio release B-side tune. I dont know if this has ever been mentioned here, but if anyone wants a copy, e-mail me. Also, my friend Spike is about to turn 30, but still refuses to grow up. Hes a punk from way back and suggests the following lyric adjustment to Marilyn: the lyrics read _Could it have been the pact?_ He thinks it is _Could it have been the Pack?_ in reference to the Rat Pack. (Sinatra, etc.) Sorry so long, but Have A Blast, Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Bouras, Elizabeth" Subject: EVB rises from the dead (with DC Misfits review) Date: Thu, 02 May 96 10:48:00 edt OK OK... I know I haven t posted in like forever; for the most part I haven t had much I ve wanted to say in a public forum and I wanted to stay out of the constant flame wars, but being as I finally got to see the Misfits I thought it might be easier to post a review than try and tell folks about it one at a time! Remember, these are just MY opinions so if you don t agree that s fine! I m still sorting out my feelings about it. I guess it was less than I d hoped for but better than what I was afraid of. Hmm... is that damning with faint praise? I know I didn t expect to see the "original" Misfits (by that I mean any line up that would have included Glenn Danzig) so I wanted to cut them some slack but I was still disappointed. I hate to fault Michale but the greatest weight is on his shoulders - it must be really difficult for somebody so young & inexperienced to suddenly be in the spotlight in a "known" band with a long established audience. He seemed really enthusiastic and energetic and was fun to watch, but at the same time it was kinda spooky. Now maybe I never saw the "old" Misfits but I ve watched those videos dozens and dozens of times and I guess he has too. It just seemed to me that every last move was learned from watching tapes of "how Glenn would have done it". I felt like I was watching an Elvis impersonator or a Kiss tribute band. All the gestures, the grimaces, the head shaking etc, all there. I guess I just felt it was a shame that his own personality didn t come through. I didn t come to watch a Danzig impressionist, I came to see Michale Graves. As for the music, sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn t. OK, I m not a musician so I don t know the technical terms, but it seemed that a lot of the tempos (?) were rearranged and seemed less melodic and more thrashy; it often seemed like there were twice as many drumbeats as on the old recordings. As I had difficulty making out the vocals (much of this I blame on the mixing) I honestly had trouble telling which songs were which and sometimes they d be halfway into it before I could catch enough of the lyrics to tell them apart. I felt kinda embarrassed by this, yet I don t think anybody could say I am unfamiliar with the Misfits material. (my poor roommate Judy couldn t tell what most of them were - later on she was like "what do you mean they played London Dungeon - when?". And she s heard these nearly as much as I just by osmosis!) Sometimes they worked - I think the best sounds like were the "Walk Among Us" era material, also "Ghouls Night Out" and "Horror Hotel". Unfortunately for me it didn t work on the earlier material, especially the Static Age/Legacy songs like "Hybrid Moments" and "Come Back". And I m sorry to say it but they absolutely slaughtered "American Nightmare" which hurt as it s one of my all time favorite songs. Michale s vocals are adequate most of the time but when they play the songs that had REALLY showcased Glenn s voice, such as "Last Caress" or "Return of the Fly" I found myself missing Danzig even more and thinking about how it had been his voice that had drawn me to the Misfits in the first place. Maybe I m just asking for too much; it s hard not to be disappointed when you ve been a fan to the point of obsession with a band for so many years. I think the crowd came in with a lot less expectations as most of them seemed VERY young, they were certainly enthusiastic and enjoyed themselves. (I m glad to have been in the balcony out of harms way as watching the floor was like watching a popcorn popper). The audience certainly acted just like they did in all the old Misfits videos - punk after punk jumping on stage, doing the "punkrawk strut" (the "hey man I made it on stage - look at me" look) and leaping out into the audience. (I was beginning to think about making cards to score them with - no points if you hit the floor head first like the idiot that kept diving off the top of the speaker cabinets and would wander away dazed, sit down for a few minutes and then go do it again). At least the band seemed good natured about it all though I kept hoping some clueless idiot would impale himself on the head of Doyle s most impressive axe. The guitars were VERY cool - stylized to looking like they d just landed from outer space. The drum kit looked like something from Gwar s wet dreams with giant cartoon spikes all over it, and enough pieces to make 3 or 4 "normal" drum kits. I guess I just gotta give them more time so they can actually develop as a band - maybe when they have enough new material Michale can concentrate more on performing it in his own style rather than trying to do it "as Glenn would have done it". I d really like to see them develop into a band with their own personality rather than just lapsing into self-parody, and I think that s what they ve got to concentrate on doing. For me the high point of the evening came early - I REALLY enjoyed the first opening band Uranium 235! Definitely influenced by NIN but certainly have their own style. Picked up a copy of their demo tape & managed to find 3 of the 5 members and have them autograph it for me. Doing so was mainly my excuse to go up to them and tell them how much I enjoyed the band which they seemed really happy to hear being as they knew it wasn t exactly their sort of audience and they seemed a bit trepedatious about the crowd. I ll definitely go see them next time they are in town (which may be opening for either Life of Agony or Type O according to their singer) I wanted to add that I ve REALLY enjoyed reading everybody s bios so if you aren t too sick of them here is mine: Bio info on EVB (who hasn t posted since 138 but felt obligated to today) name: Elizabeth Victoria Bouras e-mail addy: sistinas@planetcom.com (home) bourase@gm1.nigms.nih.gov (work) date of birth - April 19, 1961 school: graduated 1984 from the Tyler School of Art with a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree occupation: day job funding grants in genetic research for the National Institutes of Health, run a side business called Amarna Productions selling my sculptures in limited editions other bands: currently : Marilyn Manson, NIN, Ministry, White Zombie, Electric Hellfire Club, the Nefilim, Hanzel Und Gretyl, Type O Negative, Sister Machine Gun, Tool, Prick past/ongoing - David Bowie, Iggy Pop/The Stooges, Alice Cooper, Patti Smith, Velvet Underground, The Doors, The Damned, The Cramps, Bauhaus, Siouxsie, Magazine, Killing Joke, The Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim, dozens more!!! Book currently reading: "Bone Music" by Alan Rogers (fantastic horror novel with heavy blues music influence, currently in the running for a Stoker Award - HIGHLY recommend!) what drew me to the Misfits - a friend recommended the 1st Danzig album when it came out, I initially resisted because I didn t like metal but once I played it I was totally and completely hooked and had to go get EVERYTHING he d done. Immediately ran out & bought everything that was in print, then found out that most of his best material was long out of print on rare 7's and began hunting them all down one by one! Other interests: collecting stuff (comic books, original comic art, Misfits/Samhain/Danzig memorabilia, horse figurines, garage kits, animation cels, books), tattoos (including one of the M.W. Kaluta Yin/Yang on Danzig 4p!), road trips!! Bye for now! -EVB (the ever-lurking) ------------------------------ From: Tarry_Carapezza@dpc.senate.gov Date: Thu, 02 May 96 10:42:49 EST Subject: DC show Show at the 9:30 was cool. It had a couple rough spots, but overall, two thumbs up. Only down points were the dickhead club staff. They really need to get their shit together. I had to ask at least 4 club employees where to go to use my backstage pass, then when I finally got to the right place, I was told I couldn't go back stage. All the band, except for Dolye, came out to greet people after the show anyway, so it was cool in the end. Oh, and I did get to meet our own Mark Kennedy. It was cool to finally meet the man who has brought us all together. On a brighter note, I did get on the guest list, so I was able to sell my ticket to a waiting fiend. I totally missed the first band Uranium 235 (?). Sardonica was pretty good, but I have to admit I was a bit distracted watching all the punkers, seeing all the shirts, looking at the stage setup, and just getting my bearings. I do remember Sardonica did this one 'jam', that was great. The Misfits took a bit of time getting set up. But It was worth it after them came on stage and played a few songs. There were quite a few sound problems. the mike was constantly going out on Michale, who is great btw. Doyle went through I don't know how many guitars and strings. But they did finally get everything working eventually. They ended up playing for close to an hour and a half. I can think of only a scant few songs they did not play. There were stage divers galore, and more mohawks than you can shake a stick at. The band was really cool about the fans on stage. I did see Doyle give someone a shove when they got too close. And on more than one occasion, Michale had to pull his mic back from someone whop got to grabby. But for the most part Jerry & Michale had no problem sharing the mic with fans who wanted to sing along. The guys were real good about hanging with the fans after the show. Jerry was like a 'dad' the whole time during and after the show. He told people to stop fighting, he was hugging people, & he talked about his kids. Dr. Chud was hilarious. Some one started to make fun of Glen, and he just kept asking, "Who?". Oh, and those of you on the bible who are not impressed by my Senate address, Dr. Chud certainly was. Like I said, all in all it was a great evening. -Tarry ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:59:22 -0400 Subject: German Evilive insert Last issue I think someone was wondering if the German Evilive 12" was supposed to come with a German insert and the answer is "yes." I got mine at the local mall ( gasp!) around late '85 , early '86 for ten bucks. As a matter of fact , it was the first Misfits album I ever bought!! Anyway , yes it had the insert , which was the Agressive Rock catalogue at the time , I think. Great bands besides the 'Fits like Necros , Angry Samoans , maybe one TSOL , not sure. Plus a plethora of skinhead bands. One title I remember clearly was "Laut und Lustig." Well , I took it in to school to translate it as part of a project fur Deustch klasse , and I lost themotherfucker!!! Anyone willing to make a copy of it out there??? ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:42:02 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #172 Hey fiends, I hope to see a lot of you at the shows in Providence, Caimbridge and Danberry. Im driving down on Friday from Saint John. I should be there sometime Saturday afternoon. There is a bit of a problem though. Im poor. I had to sell my textbooks and we had to steal pop cans from the university recycling bins so we could afford gas and hotel costs, and even with that we still have to sleep in the car after the show on Monday. I know I have let a few bible members know where we are staying, and hopefully we will meet up with some of the rest of you and it'll be chaos. I like Ken Graff's idea. As many of us should meet at the merchandise table after the opening bands play. At least in RI. Hell, we should wear nametags or something. Just kidding. Anyways, all Im gonna have to eat it pop tarts and water so if anyone wants to make a donation to the "Roger Holmes feed a fiend" charity feel free. Hope to see you there. Later Roger ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:54:19 +0200 Subject: chicago punks: mail me Hey, There's a small war that might be booming soon at my school. it started with a friend of mine and some jock asshole. now it's become "punks vs. jocks" I live in Downers Grove BTW, so please, any chicago punks who have a natural hate for jocks, or just plain assholes, email me. ols@interaccess.com -greg petre ps..sorry to use the space, but this is the place to find punks around me im sure. it seems that everyone has to live in fear on this list of being flamed. it's so goddam stupid. ------------------------------ From: APSegal@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:08:44 -0400 Subject: Sampler for Sale FOR SALE - BEST OFFER BOX-SET SAMPLER EDITION, Caroline: CAR PRCD #17 February 8, 1996, Teenagers .From Mars, London Dungeon, Die Die My Darling, Vampira, Horror Hotel, She, Some Kinda Hate, Bloodfeast, I Turned Into A Martian, Hollywood Babylon, Horror Business, Queen Wasp, Night Of The Living Dead, Static Age, Format: CD Info: Promotional sampler. It comes in a clear tray with a brief description of the box set on the inside of the tray, beneath the CD. -ADAM (apsegal@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:01:56 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Jerry Interviews was: Jerry Only: S.O.S. -->Dave Asselin Said: -->Subject: Jerry Only: S.O.S >Jerry may be a nice guy. I don't know, I've never talked to him. >What I do know is that Jerry Only should immediately stop giving interviews, >because clearly interviewers everywhere are twisting his words and making >him look like an ass. Nobody could be as dumb as he is being: Dave, (this is NOT a flame) If you could have ever talked to Jerry you would realize what I mean. Jerry is the kind of person that speaks from the heart. If he's got something on his mind he spits it out, then worries about it later. Jerry also says things that are meant as a joke, he laughs as he's saying it. If an interviewer does not give the reader insight of course some comments are going to be put in the worst light. That's why the Ugly Things #12 interview came across sounding so pro-Jerry, because Mike took the time to say (Laughter) when Jerry was saying something in a half serious sense. I know Jerry and his mannerisms better than anyone on here, with exception to Bobby. Bobby hasn't been around him in a long time, and his view is somewhat biased anyway. I collaborated with Patricia on this, so I'll turn it over to her: to say that Jerry is a poor interview is pretty ignorant in itself...if any of you read Keith 138's fanzine interview you'd see that he pretty much says just exactly what he believes. Sometimes it comes out as mean spirited but I believe the guy is sincere, and a genuinely nice person who wants everyone to love him. (right bobby?:) ) And as all of us know, sometimes words are spoken in heat of the moment and God knows thats true of Jerry! But if he says anything he doesnt really mean, or realizes sounds over-bitter, he's not ashamed to admit he was wrong. Unlike your hero Henry Garfield Rollins!!! What is it with you people who worship an total nonentity like Henry Rollins! Who never had an original thought in that beetlebrowed bullet head of his! I AGREE with what Jerry said about him, and I bet I'm not the only one (no pun intended). The Crimson Widow Jim & Patricia crmsngst@planet nrwidow@magicnet.et ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 21:31:41 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: It's a conspiracy! It's all a conspiracy.... Glenn is really coming back to the 'Fits, after he gets Danzig V out. He had Jerry put out some lame story about him not even wanting to talk to them, to get the fans still hanging on pumped and ready... Michale is just another hidden Caiafa brother, and only a ploy to draw attention from one of the biggest, surprise comebacks in history... Jerry was even directed to make disparaging remarks about other musicians, in order to create some controversy for the return... BaBaBooey... [The above was a joke, maybe even a dream. The new Misfits are here, learn to live with them.] Anybody still know the address for CG's new list? Mark: I'm leaving a week from today (Thursday), if I need to unsubscribe, then could you let me get as many bibles as possible? Laterz, BTW I can't wait to check out Michale, HorrorKid ------------------------------ From: APSegal@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 23:48:07 -0400 Subject: Green Evilive Last issue Kieth wrote: "One question I might raise is this : If it was "sealed" how did the person selling it know to advertise it as "Clear-Turqoise"?? I remember my friend Robin buying one brand new when they were first issued , and the label said something like "Colored Vinyl Limited Edition of 1000." Or something close to that. Anyway , my point is that if it was really still sealed the caroline sticker should have read "green" or "colored" , but I don't think they would have put on "clear-turqoise." Sometimes dealers are low. " Actually, it was completely sealed and I know the color cuz I cut it open! I don't keep stuff sealed, I collect stuff to play and look at and enjoy, etc. Anyhow, the store was vinyl solution in San Mateo CA and it's a great store, very Misfits-aware. It did just have the "colored vinyl" sticker, so I didn't know the color till I opened it. You're right about it not really being green. It's extremely clear and it has those green swirls. -Adam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:51:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Morse Subject: Bass Pedals Fiends- I was just wondering if any of you knew what kind of pedal- if any- Jerry uses/used for his bass? I am personally getting tired of the regular sound and am looking for more creative sounds I can get out of my instrument. Just curious. Outside your window, Jon Morse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:00:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Russell Subject: Have no doubt, the new misfits rule hey- I saw the fits at the Troc last night (sorry I didn't meet up with people like I said I would but I got there about a minute before they went on). Like many people, I was very nervous - thinking what if they stink, what if they sound like heavy metal, etc. (I'm not trying to put down metal, I'm just saying that some of us punkier types don't want the misfits to sound like that). As soon as the set started, my worries vanished as the misfits plowed through song after song, barely stopping for breath... there was literally always at least one or two fans up on the stage. They really captured the raw energy that made the misfits great - fuck sound quality, fuck playing well, just jump around, throw some ecstatic kids back into the crowd... I thought Michaele kicked ass - he really held up against Doyle's tremendously loud guitar, captured the feeling, even got pulled into the crowd a couple times and got back up singing without a second thought. At one point he wrapped the mic cord around this kid's neck and used it to yank him out over the crowd!!! Of course then the mic was broken as a result, but it was great. Anyway, make no mistake as to why Jerry's doing what he's doing - last night he was having the time of his fucking life. Me too! aon-1 PS- I was listening to "Bloodfeast" and my roommate thought Glenn was saying "Be prepared for a grizzly butt feast." ------------------------------ From: "AngelfucK" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:50:08 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #172 Bobby, You mentioned earlier that the Undead were going to play in Montreal. When? I hope it's at the end of the summer cause Im just about to spend all my cash on a trip to see the misfits. Im from Canada by the way. Montreal is about a 12 hour drive. So let me know the details when you find them out yourself. You can email me if you want. Ill give you my adress there or whatever but I really want to go. Montreal is a cool town. It's where I saw the Ramones for the first time and I really want to go back Tks Roger Holmes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:30:16 -0400 From: She Subject: DC done Wednesday night I went to see the Misfits in DC with my brother and my old pal Mike Priddy (who was on this mailing list way long ago). I originally met Jerry because of my brother Ethan, and he and Jerry hadn't seen each other in about a year. We went back in the dressing room before the show and Jerry was doing some sort of interview for a show on the sci-fi channel, or at least that's what I thought. Anyway... the place was pretty crowded, but the crowd itself didn't seem as excited as the Richmond crowd had been. There was an immense amount of stage diving, but not nearly as much singing along... The DC crowd seemed more interested in stage diving and running around than having a good time and singing along. The show itself got off to a bad start. Doyle was having some problems with his guitar and they did part of Horror Business with the bass only, just like in the old days when the guitar would get unplugged. The guitar problems must have really jazzed him into life though - I have never seen Doyle like that before - thrashing his head around and going all over the stage instead of just staying on his side - It was great! Michale was great too. He seemed to have a lot of fun as usual, and climbed about 20 feet up on top of some of the amps and did part of a song from up there, looking like a mix between Elvis and Glenn Danzig '82... From time to time he pulled out this big squirt gun and blasted the audience with water. The guys did 43 or 44 songs (I can't remember if they actually played Night Of The Living Dead) and stuff really picked up near the end as the encores were nearing. After hopping off the stage, they came back up and tore through a mini Earth AD set which sounded absolutely great. I never knew how great that Earth AD stuff could be. I guess it's because it was recorded live in the studio in the first place. They did almost EVERY song that they will play. There are about 10 songs that we will never see them play - Halloween II, Theme For A Jackal, Cough/Cool, Spinal Remains, Rat Fink, Spook City, Demonomania, even Who Killed Marilyn [although they do it on occassions], so we didn't miss out on much. Near the end of the encores, Jerry dedicated "She" to me, since I had asked him to play it before the show. I hadn't heard them do that song since I saw them rehearse in October of '94 before they had a singer.... so it was pretty cool. After the show, Jerry gave me a big hug. He was really having a great time... Everybody seemed to have enjoyed it. Here are the songs they played in order: Halloween * Horror Business * I Turned Into A Martian Death Comes Ripping * All Hell Breaks Loose * The Hunger * Static Age * TV Casualty * Hybrid Moments * Last Caress * Skulls Devils Whorehouse * Return Of The Fly * Teenagers From Mars Children In Heat * Violent World * Vampira * Blacklight * The Haunting 20 Eyes * Hollywood Babylon * Horror Hotel * Ghouls Night Out Attitude * London Dungeon * Astro Zombies * Hate Breeders Bullet * We Are 138 (with Sal B from Sardonica) Encores: Green Hell * Queen Wasp * Devilock * Bloodfeast * Earth AD * Some Kinda Hate Where Eagles Dare * Nike A Go Go * Come Back * American Nightmare * Mommy She * We Bite * Die Die My Darling Apparently they did Wolfsblood the next night in Philadelphia... I don't know. Send me your setlists everyone! I want to have a whole listing of what they played at every show. Also Fiends, I'm really sorry this issue got out so late. For those of you who asked, if you want to order the Manimals LP, make your checks out to Larry The Wolf. Also, I got some info on this company called Uneartly Possessions - they put out a horror catalog that features toys, videos, posters, shirts, cards, comics, magazines, models, books, and more...Email wgky77a@prodigy.com for more info. Thanks Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:22:12 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Here we go again... Hi all you fiends out in BIBLE LAND, well now to get down to business 1) to Mike FOD as far as i know are not together, I have two lps from them and the orig. press of their first 7" Love Songs. This was bootlegged quite awhile ago by some place in Germany. Though i would suggest to find it cause the songs on it are great. Also the German Evilive 12" does not have reviews of bands, it's a clear plastic inner sleeve, and the paper sleeve Has a picture of the Misfits playing live. To Adam Kriney - the 5 bands you were asking about in the last bible are very good. I have songs from all 5, which i'm sure we can work out some kind of tape trade. Fear is a bit harder though, their records are rare especially the first 7"- which is valued around the same as a Cough/Cool. Also Lee Ving(lead singer) is an actor too. He was in several movies including the movie Clue. To Wes - well someone tries to be a little nice and you start that joke shit, buddy you must be one lonely individual cause no one in their right mind would put up with that crap. To Pat tell me what you need for the calendar as far as all the Birthdays of the fiends. This is to all fiends if you want in on the calendar ie your b-day then e-mail in the questionnaire. I know there are lots of you that subscribe so put you ass in gear and get it in. Till next time. TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Misfits back home in Asbury park New Misfits Songs Jerry nees our help! show in nj and ct Michigan Show Power & Fury Orchestra Nos. 172 & 173 Misfits Cleveland show Halloween II misfits and anthrax Re: Misfits Bible, #173 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: QueenWasp Subject: Goodbye Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:41:00 -0500 (EST) Hiya! I'm writing to say goodbye to all the great people that I've met in the past year. Because I'm leaving school I'm going to be losing my account won't be able to socialize with ya anymore. To the interesting characters I met in NY at the signing: You sure made it an interesting adventure for this Indiana hick. It will be a time I shall never forget no matter how hard I try! ;) To #misfits: Thanks for making everynight an adventure. I'm going to be lonely without ya! Take it easy and try to stay out of trouble! Love ya all!!! QueenWasp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 16:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Subject: last bible. evb--welcome back from the dead. you've been missed. i snagged the manimals album.. it's pretty spiffy. i laughed while listening to most fo the songs. you've got to adore those '80's screams. i certainly recommend it. i need a pair of those boots! **** that bio bit: better late than never: Name: Mike Westlake DOB: August 3, 1974 School: Humboldt State University. Arcata, CA, via bakersfield college, via the university of rochester, via bakersfield college, via high school. i'm double majoring in Applied Mathematics and Environmental Science. this way i'll be able to sit in a forest and calculate my umemployment earnings. Job: maybe over the summer, yeah, that's it. Other bands: asside from the Glenn trio that is, White Zombie, Electric Hellfire Club, Metallica, Depeche Mode (it's an acquired taste), Anti-Nowhere League, NIN, Rush, Ministry, Napalm Death, pretty much anthing except country, r&b, and the gratefully dead. Where my obsession began: when i got out of high school a few years ago i was disgruntled with the music i had been listening to and wanted a taste of something new. a friend of mine suggested i give Danzig a try. so i went out and bought lucifuge (mainly because D 1 didn't have a song listing on the box and i didn't want to buy the album only to find out there were only three songs on it or something like that). i brought it home and played it and though it sounded quite bluesy and reminded me a lot of the doors for some reason. but regardless, it was still cool. i remember unfolding the booklet to form the upside down cross. that was just too cool. i had been listening to metallica for a while and eventually i put together that last caress/green hell and glenn went together, but i had no idea what band it was from. so i looked into it and eventually bought Collection I. it's all been downhill from there... Last book i read (if you want to call it a book): Dr. Jekell and Mr. Hyde by R.L. Stevenson. i'm currently reading Savage Inequalities by Johnathon Kozol (or something like that). it's not exactly your normal pick of reading material, but it's interesting. First Bible: #56 (i think) Other interests: spending too much time on this damn contraption in front of me, correspondence, annoying my hall with glenn over and over, spending too much money on cd's i don't have and assorted memorbillia i really don't need. crew, when my grades let me. oh yeah, and occasionally i study like the good student i'm supposed to be. *** guess that's enough for those of you who care and too much for those of you who don't. Mike mtw4@axe.humboldt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 23:32:09 -0400 From: She Subject: Canada The Misfits are doing one show in Canada on this tour, but have promised to play there again on later tours. That's about all I know at this point. Also, it's possible that Anthrax will be opening for The Misfits sometime during the summer. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 20:44:37 -0700 From: devilman138 Subject: New Danzig Site Check this site out fiends! www.earthlink.net/~devilman138 devilman138 ------------------------------ From: PETE MOGOR Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 03:04:22, -0500 Subject: Misfits 5/2 Philadelphia I don't want to bore everybody by saying this is my first post, so I won't. The Philly show was great. Lots of energy. They must of had a change of heart about Earth A.D. because they did the entire thing (except Demonomania). After the show Jerry, Doyle, Michale and Chud signed everything handed to them. I never thought I would see them play live much less be standing within inches of the band. Pete ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 00:47:33 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: Misfits Tour: Please help Tucson Hey Fiends: Tucson used to have some cool venues, but now they're all closed, or changed into fuckin' frat boy bars. Anyway, there are so many bastards in this town that dig the Misfits that if they came here, they'd probably open up a new venue just for it. The Misfits MUST come to Tucson. Damn, this town is freakish and needs some kind of something...You should see the local freaks on community access cable right now...Misfits mest travel west...Land in barren fields...Finals suck. My life is utter hell now. I'm just babbling- I'm sorry. If I start a petition, do you think the Misfits will come here? All you lucky people on the east coast get to see and hear them. I don't. But I can wear a T-shirt on Halloween. I really don't know what the hell I'm saying anymore. Have a night, Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 05:19:06 -0600 (CST) From: z1n22@ttacs1.ttu.edu Subject: Goin' home.... Well, it's that time.... I've packed up almost everything I own.... Next to go is my computer, so I'd like to let all of you know that from tonight that I'll have to go to the library to check my e-mail. I have less than 1 week, and 3 finals untill I'm safe at home. I'd just like to thank all of you for helping me through one of the toughest times I've ever faced. I appreciate you all listening to my whining. Almost there.... Have a great summer!!!! Eric the HorrorKid... laterz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 00:21:46 -0400 From: Bobby Steele <104600.2577@compuserve.com> Subject: MB 172 To: Eric I know quite a few Japanese New yorkers. That's where I learned about the Japanese scene. Also, TIMES SQUARE's drummer used to be in the DEVIL DOGS, so betweeen those people I've gotten a decvent idea of what it must be like over there. There just seems to be this 'innocence' about them. I met this one girl , afew years ago - who'd flown to New York so she could see Michael Monroe play. I thought that was a bit overly fanatical, but then I heard her story. She was a BIG HANOI ROCKS fan, who was in the hospital, dieing. Michael heard about here and flew to Tokyo to visit her in the hospital. That was enough to give her the will to live, so out of appreciation, she HAD to come here to see him. He's truly one of the nicest guys I've met in this business. ~~~~ To: hepcat, You said it. ~~~~ to:HorrorKid I'm glad you understand what I'm talking about re: college. There's also the pseudo intellectual, who wants to prove their so smart, that they'll agree with whatever crap their teachers throw at them , no matter how subversive and incorrect it might be. I've seen frineds get suckered into Nazi organizations, and Communist organizations this way. Communism is generally the main choice for the "suckers" in our colleges. I believe Colleges are for learning, not for social clubs. Frats should be terminated, since, as you pointed out, they are generally 'priviledged' brats who disrupt the education process for the less priviledged; and then they use their frat contacts to get good jobs - even though they don't qualify for the job. ~~~~ To WES THOMAS, YOU are either the biggest asshole, or the master of sarcasm. I can't figure you out, but you piss me off, and make me laugh at the same time. I've been holding back on my sarcasm ,because most people don't get it. It's gotten me in a lot of trouble over the years, so now I save it for gigs and where people can see my face, and hopefully see that I'm just bustin' their balls. I know some people are gonna be pissed for me saying this, but you keep things interesting. ~~~~ >Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:39:47 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Scumfuck" >anybody know what types of pedals were used on the albums? I was wondering >thi would be a great addition to the web page? maybe you can help bobby? well any >help would be appreciated. And possibly the gear that was used to record, inclu >ding guitar years and models. I think I went over this on my second posting. I used an MXR DISTORTION+ up until 'late '93. For the HORROR BUSINESS sessions, I used a GIBSON MARAUDER, which got stolen in '81. I'd like to find that guitar, since it has some sentimental value. It was purple metal-flake with Glow-in the-dark monster stickers on it. I played through a small MUSICMAN amp that was in the studio. The SONGSHOP sessions, were done mainly with THE PAUL ('79). I also used one of my STRATS ('71) for some of the solos, and on the RATT FINK solo I used the previous two guitars, along with a DANELECTRO that was laying in the corner of the studio. That's how I got that "shitty" (Jerry's quote) sound. For an amp, I used a FENDER TWIN. At MSP, I used THE PAUL, the STRAT, and I think I had my '69 LES PAUL CUSTOM too. Robbie Alter had a BC RICH MOCKINGBIRD which I tried to use, but didn't like. For an amp, I used my '69 MARSHALL 1/2 stack. As far as DOYLE; I'm pretty sure he used the MXR also, since I got turnes onto it after using his. I switched to a TURBO RAT in '93. ~~~~ >Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:17:41 -0400 (EDT) >From: Dave Asselin >Subject: Jerry Only: S.O.S >Jerry may be a nice guy. I don't know, I've never talked to him. >What I do know is that Jerry Only should immediately stop giving interviews, >because clearly interviewers everywhere are twisting his words and making >him look like an ass. Nobody could be as dumb as he is being: Nobody's twisting his words. If you read enough of his interviews, you'll see that he has certain speech patterns. SOMEBODY is as dumb as he's being. HIM. I haven't seen his JUICE interview. What issue is it? >In the course of 2 interviews (Juice and Metal Maniacs), Jerry has managed >to trash Glenn Danzig, Henry Rollins, Greg Ginn, Dave Vanian, and Bobby >Steele (indirectly). He's accused Bon Jovi and Metallica of ripping him off >and says everything Caroline has released before the box set is shit (even >though all that stuff made up half the box set). I'm beginning to notice a pattern in his behavior, and that includes trashing anyone who knows the REAL jerry, so as to discredit anything they might say about him. Kinda the way members of the MAFIA respond about their accusers when they're getting cornered. >We get to hear how "if it wasn't for [Jerry] and Doyle there wouldn't be a >Misfits... [or a Samhain, or a Danzig]" and hear how Glenn's band sucks >(although they wanted Glenn because he has 200,000 fans]. I wish my band sucked as much as Glenn's. He also said that DANZIG was a "flop" (JERSEY BEAT #40). No matter how much I might dislike Glenn, I gotta give credit where credit is due >Jerry ought to speak to someone else who's been in the same position and ask f>or advice. My suggestion would be to talk to Kevin DuBrow, the old (still?) >vocalist for Quiet Riot. I'm sure he has an interesting perspective on the >"I'm-great,-everyone-else-sucks" style of publicity. >It's up to you, Mark. You're the only one who can save Jerry from himself. It may be too late. I think you can see that He's a buffoon, bent on power, who will resort to any tactic to get rich. He may have already committed crimes, that are in violation of federal RICO laws. Considering the fact that he has avoided all of my managers attempts to resolve the royalty issue with me, combined with all the slander he's thrown at me, I think he's established himself in an ongoing criminal conspiracy to defraud me out of my earnings. This is basically the same charge that Glenn was facing if he hadn't paid Jerry, and as I understand it - was what Glenn was threatened with. The sentence for such a crime is not light. ~~~~ >Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:01:48 -0700 (MST) >From: Ben Todd >Subject: Fiend Club? (and a couple of other things) >Hey fiends, > WHat's the deal with the FIEND CLUB? I dropped a line to the >address, but have gotten no response. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MISFITS SIGHTING>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-FILES A KID WAS DRIVING A CAR WITH A MISFITS STICKER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MISFITS SIGHTING>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben, I don't know when you wrote to the fiend club, but they've been on tour, and I doubt they have anyone handling things while they're away. ~~~~ >From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu >Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:27:42 EDT >Subject: other bands! >Bobby Steele-did you get my band's demo? Yeah. Sorry I didn't write back yet. The day I got your tape, I played it about five times. It's really good. If ya get a chance, though, make the drums louder. It sounds like there's some really good stuff there tthat's not coming through all the way. The songs are great! Let me know when you're playing New York. ~~~~ >From: Sean Weintz/NETLAN >Date: 29 Apr 96 21:17:13 EDT >Subject: Opus' Post about Jerry and Rollins >in regards to Opus' post: >>I can say from personal experience that Henry is one hell of a person. He >>was kind enough to help my brother out with some problems after one of his >>shows here. Henry is an incredible person with a hell of a brain. You can't judge a 'celebrity' in just one meeting. It's easy to catch them on a bad day and have them snap at you. I've seen both sides of Henry. Give him a break. ~~~~ >From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu >Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:05:17 EDT >Subject: Mourning noise and stuff! >Does anyone else find it really interesting/weird/odd that so many >of the memebers of mourning noise/samhain/misfits/undead where all >in the same bands at different times. And we're never seen all together. You caught us. I'm really EERIE, ROBO is STEVE ZING and JOEY IMAGE (all of whom played in THE UNDEAD at one time or another) JERRY is TIM TAYLOR (ever notice they're the same height?) GOOGY is now GLENN (who died about five years ago at a dance contest in a nudist resort - where he was accidentally clubbed to death), which is why he just popped in-and-out at KENNY'S CASTAWAY the day of the BOX-SET signing party. >Does anyone know if ABC NO RIO in New York still does punk shows, and >if so, does anyone have the number for booking there, I would >really realy appreciate it! It's still open. According to MRR's BOOK YOUR OWN FUCKIN LIFE you should call NEIL at (718)383-6522 ~~~~ >From: Paul Hahn >Subject: why aids is considered more important >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Paul, I'm sorry to hear about your AIDS. I've lost some really good friends to it. I will say that I HATE that disease, and it is terrible to see people waste away. One of THE UNDEAD's first roadies has it righ now. He's had it since about 1984, and was supposed to die in1990. He's still here, and the motherfucker has more drive then almost anybody I know. He's always off on some 'mission' - walking down the street with this look of determination on his face. We all joke that he's gonna outlive all of us, 'cause he's too mean to give in. My main problem with AIDS is that it's been used as a tool to further the political ambitions of certain groups, with no regard as to public safety. I support quaratining people with contageous, fatal diseases. In the case of AIDS, it would also keep PWA's away from colds, flus - and other illnesses that would kill you. I hope I'm not sounding insensitive, but with all respect to you, These are just my feelings about it. I think, if they had enacted the quarantines similar to the ones that they'd used to stop the spread of tuberculosis; they might have nipped AIDS in the bud, and most of my friends would still be here. I stopped counting them years ago. > Paul Hahn If you think there's a solution > hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu then you're part of the problem. The solution is for people to act more responsibly, and to have espect for each other. (that's just my opinion, and it's no more or less valid than anyone elses) ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:13:07 -0400 Subject: Friday Night's Show The Misfits show on Friday night was one of the best I've ever seen. First off, I'd never been to the Stone Pony before. When I drove down the block, I first saw the "Stone Pony Annex" and thought that was where the show was going to be. It looked like a shack. I'd heard that the Stone Pony was a shitty place but I didn't think it was that bad. I was relieved when I went further down the block and saw the real club. Anyway, there were three (yes, THREE) opening acts and, in my opinion, that was three too many. First there was Flatus, a local band who's put out their own t-shirts and EP's and such. They were alright but every song sounded the same to me. But they were okay. Then came the horror. Some band called Both Worlds took the stage and, Jesus Christ, they were awful. Every song had some kind of trippy guitar solo. EVERY song. The crowd let them know what they thought of them. The lead singer was a jerk. When he heard the crowd's disapproval, he started ranting about how it was "1996" and told the crowd to "step into the future." He then started talking about how he hated this "old school, old school" stuff and that the guys in the Misfits were old enough to be grandfathers to some of the kids in the crowd. What an appreciative guy, huh? I mean, NO one would've gone to see them on their own, they get a chance to play a fairly big show, and they turn around and bad mouth the guys who gave them the shot. What did Jerry or Doyle do to them? If the crowd doesn't like you, the crowd doesn't like you. He made it all the worse for himself by acting like a jerk instead of just finishing his set. He threw some stickers to the crowd which were then thrown right back at him. That was pretty funny. Anyway, just when I thought it was time for the Misfits to take the stage at maybe 10 o'clock or so, I saw the guys from Sardonica setting up. I couldn't believe it. Two opening acts had managed to drain the life from the crowd but a third might actually put the crowd to sleep. Had Sardonica been the only opening act, I might have appreciated them more but after the first two, I wanted nothing to do with them. So at maybe 11, they started setting up the stage for what the crowd had been waiting for. They threw a tarp off Chud's kit and it looked amazing. It had these huge spikes all over it. The guys sounded amazing. The crowd was going berzerk and didn't stop until the last song was through. I don't remember exactly what songs were played but they played all of my favorites, including American Nightmare, Astro-Zombies (which Jerry declared to be his favorite), Bloodfeast (I was happily surprised they played this one), Night of the Living Dead, Die Die, and Last Caress. Jerry and Doyle were amazing. Pounding on their guitars like maniacs. They looked bigger than ever, especially Doyle. Michale Graves sounded better than he had on Halloween. He's really learning well. He was hangning from the ceiling, leaning over the crowd as he sang. At one point, a security guard grabbed him roughly and put him back on the stage. Michale didn't look very happy about this but didn't do anything about it. He's very good at getting the crowd going with his little taunts. At one point, someone tossed an empty water bottle up at him. Jerry told the crowd not to throw stuff at the band but Michale complemented the guilty party on a nice shot. I even saw big Jonathan Grimm crowd surf up to the stage to share the mic for a few lines. All in all, it was a great show. A really good time was had by all. Michale is a good lead singer but, in my opinion, he doesn't have a certain something that Glenn did. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's his inexperience. Maybe it's just that he doesn't have the same crazy intensity that Glenn did when he sang with them, giving the impression that any minute he was going to wade into the crowd and make his lyrics come to life. But Glenn is Glenn and that's the past. Michale did a damn good job and that's all that counts. He's doing his own thing and I wouldn't have it any other way. It would really suck if he was up on the stage doing a Glenn impersonation. If you haven't seen the show yet and have tickets, just wait. You won't be disappointed. If you missed out on buying tickets, grab them the minute they go on sale for the next tour. It was a show I'll never forget ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 13:04:27 -0400 Subject: return of the fiend it was great to see evb back and i enjoyed reading her post. funny you should mention the gwar/misfits/drumset thing. long ago when it was described i thought of gwar. you also mentioned it sounded like they doubled the beats or something to that effect. does anyone know if dr chud uses a double bass kit? this may have something to do with that. i can't believe they did american nightmare with distorted guitars. that must've sucked. also when you guys are reviewing the shows, i thought they handn't started playing any new stuff until mark posted the set list. are the new songs that great? D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:56:23 -0500 (EST) From: Teevie Subject: Max's My dad used to live in NJ and worked in NYC... last night upon seeing my Box Set insert he told me he and my mom used to go to Max's KC once in a while in the 70's! He said he never went upstairs where the "young people" went though (he's almost 60 now). heh heh! He said there was a door to the concert area which erupted with a blast of noise whenever someone opened it to walk through. I just like the thought that maybe, just maybe, one night the Misfits were playing and my parents were downstairs eating pizza or whatever. Heheheh!! Have a filthy blue summer, kids... Teevie >;0) Can you believe I actually have a college degree now...?--> http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~ssisson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 17:24:10 -0500 From: fennellw@bc.edu Subject: green hell i down loaded the danzig song sistanis and i played it backwards and he said green hell at 330 into the song is this known already or not? ------------------------------ From: Jer138@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 18:02:29 -0400 Subject: i saw the misfits!! Hey fiennnnds, i saw the fit's at the stone pony on friday. they ripped. mike was really good. I thought the opening bands sucks except for flatus and sardonica. after the show we chilled with jerry and doyle. doyle was handing out free shit. Dr. CHUD played really fat and the set was like covered in giant spikes. oh yeah, they had a screen in the backgroud switching from the skull to "misfits". jeremy ------------------------------ From: Tarry_Carapezza@dpc.senate.gov Date: Sat, 04 May 96 18:37:20 EST Subject: sighting... X-Files does it again! On the 5/3 episode of X-Files, the camera pans across a Misfits sticker on a VW bus. It had the Crimson Ghost's head on both sides of the logo. The bus belongs to some hippie people who are trying to get high by licking toads. In actuallity, the animal the guy is licking is a frog. -Tarry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 03:12:42 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Misfits back home in Asbury park Hey fiends, Well it is your roving reporter D-Rod here with news of the Asbury park show. This show had Flattus opening who were good. They were fast and loud. Then came a band called Both worlds( the guy who sang for Cro-mags) . I liked them I thought they had allot of energy, they kinda sounded like Rage. Well thew crowd was not that nice to them and I was surprised that the singer didnt kill some people. Sardonica was the great self again. They dont miss a beat. The Misfits were excellent again! Although there was a huge baricade at the stone pony so there was not any jumping on stage at this show. Well here goes Mark I wont list the tunes they played they basically played them in the same order as before but they didnt play: off EAD: EAD, demonomania, hellhound off WAU: braineaters, and hatebreeders off Static age: Angle fuck off others: she, cough cool, rattfink, marilyn, and spook city *I think that is it Well it was agreat show except of course for the barrier., and that there were some ass hole punkers who would cause trouble, throw things and flick off the band. And of course yell to michale that he sucks and Glenn rules. They had all there friends there at the side of the stage and played to them allot. Michale is so great , now I just cant wait to hear the new stuff. I remmeber seing that they were gonna have Dave Vanian and I was pyched. Then when I heard about Michale I have to say that I was worried. But now I just say fuck dave fuck glenn because Michale is great! I said it before and Ill say it again. It was nice also because Jerry and the guys recognized me and all came by and slapped me five and gave me a wink. There was a point in the show were some idiot took the mic from michale and he jumped into the crowd and got into a fight. I was on the other side so I cant be sure. It looked pretty serious because the band ran over and all the security ran over also. Another time somone tried to rip off Michales Glove and he pulled away and wacked the guy. Somone threw a water bottle at Michale also and people were thowing stuff but nothing serious. All in all in all it was a great show. I have to admit a little part of me was hoping that maybe Jerry would pull me up on stage again for Die Die My Darling. After the show Jerry and the guys couldnt hang out like they did at Ziggyâs cuz there were allot of people waiting. But Jerry came out I saw him, said hello and he gave me a big hug (beware fiends cuz when he puts one on you he can cause serious damage!). He went over to the merchandise table and signed autographs. One other funny detail, Doyle is becoming quite the lady killer! One would think that the girls would all go for Michale. But every girl I have ran into at the shows Ive been at falls in love with Doyle! *****Just a response to EVB: I know you are a big Glenn fan, and I am to, I got into the fits cuz Glenn was in the band, but I think you are being to harsh. I thought Michale was great (say it again). I dont care if he copies Glenn. He has got the chops, maybe the show you saw wasnt as good as the one I saw. Glenn was great, but he will never be back. The Misfits are forging new ground , and that is what they are not the new Mifits- but THE MISFITS. I thought the band was tight ass could and didnt miss a beat at both shows I was at. No offence ment and this is not meant to be a flame. So Im sorry if it seems like one. Fiends Forever D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 12:50:27 -0700 From: adam bodnar Subject: New Misfits Songs This question is addressed to anyone who has been to any of the "New" Misfits concerts. Since I live in Canada and the Misfits will not be touring the west coast any time soon, I was wondering what their new songs sound like. I've been reading the posts about the concerts themselves and what people think of Dr. Chud and Michale Graves, but no one has mentioned anything about the music. Yes, I know a lot of you have been listing the sets, but can someone describe what they sound like. Does it sound like the typical Misfits music of old, or does it sound a bit different. From what era would you classify the new music being put out (eg. Static, Walk or Earth)? How different does Michale sound compared to Glenn (Is it anything like the difference between Blaze Bailey over Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden)? Let us know. Diabolos '96 ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 16:32:42 EDT Subject: Jerry nees our help! ATTENTION ALL BIBLE MEMBERS AND MARK, I SPOKE TO JERRY AT THE NJ SHOW AND HE SAID THAT HE KEEPS BREAKING HIS BASS HEADS AND THAT HE NEEDS EVERYONE ON THE BIBLE TO GO TO THEIR LOCAL MUSIC STORE AND LOOK FOR THE TYPE OF BASS HEADS THAT HE USES. HE USES "ACUSTIC-370 SOLID STATE BASS HEADS". IF YOU KNOW OF ANYWHERE THAT HAS THESE, PLEASE E-MAIL MARK, SO THAT HE MAY CONTACT JERRY SO JERRY CAN GET HIS BASSHEADS! thanks, adam ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 17:05:30 EDT Subject: show in nj and ct Well the show in NJ was great, except that michael got in to 2 fights with members of the audience while singing!! ok here it is-SARDONICA SUCKS!!! what a horrible band!!, and as for Uranium 235, absolutely horrible, I thought that I was listening to KMFDM, really unoriginal, and trendy as FUCK! thats funny mark that you said that the fits dont like earth ad stuff, cause at both the nj and ri shows, they played a lot from both lps. they also played who killed marylin at the ri show..I asked jerry to play spook city, but hesaid he didnt know that one!!haha well mike grave is just great, and all of my friend s who went to the shows as skeptics, and claiming that the new fits were basically just a fits cover band, left the shows saying that the new fits were absolutely great, which they are! the new stuff rules too, and chud is the collest!! adamonger ------------------------------ From: MR ERIK M LINDBERG Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 20:17:34, -0500 Subject: Michigan Show Well, this is my first time contributing something to the list, even though I've been reading for 2 3.5 disks worth of issues. Oh, well. I'll let everyone know about me. I run a Detroit-area zine called Cheapskate. In my spare time, I blow all my money on records, CDs, and tapes. I also read a LOT of sci-fi stuff and I draw comics. (Like Garfield, not X-Men) That's about it for my lame life. Besides the Misfits, I like the Descendents, Cockney Rejects, Minor Threat, Black Flag, DKs, Social Scare, Less Than Jake, Mutleys, and a whole bunch of other bands in the punk or ska genre. I'll be at the Detroit show, so look for me. I'm about 6'3" and BIG. I've got a funny-looking haircut that will be dyed some bright color, but I'm not sure what. Green, Red, Black, or a combination of the three. I just can't make up my mind. I'll be wearing all black with a ripped up white shirt that has a fiend club patch on the left shoulder. See ya there! -Chubbs ********* No Sig! HAHAHA ********** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 22:50:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Guero 666 Subject: Power & Fury Orchestra Perhaps this has been stated before and I missed it, but does anyone out there know the members of the Power and Fury Orchestra??? This has had me baffled for years. Misfits in 5 Days in Toronto!!!!!!!! Craig ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 00:04:28 -0400 Subject: Nos. 172 & 173 Dave Asselin: I couldn't agree with you more! Please add Eerie Von's name to your list, as I believe Jerry had a go at him in that Angry Red 'zine. CG: It's amusing to hear that Jerry might reconsider some of his remarks after he makes them. He should. Too bad he doesn't think first... PRH: "...What is it with you people who worship an (sic) total nonentity like Henry Rollins! Who never had an original thought in that beetlebrowed bullet head of his!" Personally, I think that should have read "Jerry Only" rather than Rollins. ------------------------------ From: Goods45@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 02:14:06 -0400 Subject: Misfits Cleveland show I am really looking forward to the Cleveland show. I am going to see them at St. Andrews the day before it. The only thing is, why is the show at The Odean? They have guard rails and shit in front of the stage. I'd much rather see the Misfits at Peabody's. Do they have a film to show? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 23:39:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Reygers Subject: Halloween II I came a across a recording of Halloween II but it sounds more metal than the original version (i.e guitars) Could it have been done by Samhain or just a different recording. If anyone would like a copy, just mail me. By the way, when are the Misfits coming to Southern California? I am looking forward to seeing them. Laters....... Adam Reygers p.s. If there are any fiends in california that would like to trade stuff, I have a few things and I am always looking..... ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 09:40:18 EDT Subject: misfits and anthrax Just another tidbit of info. When I spoke to jerry at the NJ show, he asked me to mention that they (The Misfits) will be touring with Anthrax (ughhhhhh!!) this summer, and it will be something like a 60 city tour. I also think that the msifits will be the openers of the tour too, which i feel is totally degrating, considering that the misfits were probably the inspiration and influences of bands such as Anthrax. well tuddles adamonger hey you all! Buy the Lipmonger demo for 2 bux to: adam kriney 36 jackson street #2 long branch, nj 07740 kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu GOATFIT@aol.com check out the lipmonger home page to at www.moonsite.com/lipmonger/ ------------------------------ Date: 06 May 96 08:21:52 EDT From: "David P. Spampinato" <103353.3720@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #173 Boston Show, Sunday May 5 Whoever has been a MIsfits fan from way back will not be able to stomach fat doyle and his singer sidekick Billy "Michale" Idol. However, it was great to hear the tunes played live. Die Die My D was excellent. They even broke out with Bullet. They also broke out with some new tunes because Doyle is just a greedy man. Just go to see the old tunes played live otherwise you'll walk away hating these people. I'd like to hear from any one else that attended the show. ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 175 Wednesday, May 8th 1996 Today's Topics: mephisto waltz... the book Re: Misfits Bible, #174 Misfits in Boston My first posting Semi-sighting Return of the Vids (and Auds) Hello Last call: T.O. show! RI show, Mars Attacks, Lancaster power and fury orchestra Eerie Tattoo Philly show Respect/Canada (no subject) 05.05.96 - Middle East Downstairs, Cambridge, MA Re: Halloween II Tour hello Misfits Bible Post Stone pony show THE MISFITS I SAW THE MISFITS!!!! its springtime for Misfits and New Jersey Love that Dirty Water.... ct show a few tings - hehehe Lighten up, asshole! Well, what happens now... the list... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:57:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jolanta C Biniek Subject: mephisto waltz... the book 'ello, here is something interesting that i found in a used-book shop. Mephisto Waltz, written by fred m. stuart, published in 1969 by signet. the cover blurb describes it as "a diabolical spellbinder to rival Rosemary's Baby." it's about a famous pianist who deals with the devil (or a representative of such) to switch bodies w/ a young writer. we have blood rituals, demonic executions, incest, and revenge w/ a neo-satanist spin. does this book have anything to do w/ the misfits/samhain song by the same name? debatable, but it's less than 200 pages long, check it out for yourself. -jolanta c. biniek ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #174 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:24:39 -0400 (EDT) > From: EvilDieff@aol.com > Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 13:04:27 -0400 > Subject: return of the fiend > > nightmare with distorted guitars. that must've sucked. also when you guys are > reviewing the shows, i thought they handn't started playing any new stuff > until mark posted the set list. are the new songs that great? Oh yes, at every show so far, including the whole tour of Europe, they've done new songs. The one that stays closest to the old sound is called "The Haunting". It has this chorus where Jerry does all these 'woah oh oh' things in the background while Michale sings the lines. It sounds really good, and if you listen to the music itself it almost sounds like Hybrid Moments with different words. Blacklight is cool and a little heavy - very short, perhaps it would have fit best on Earth AD. Usually they play Blacklight and The Haunting with no pause in between, so a lot of you probably think you heard one long song. The Hunger - this one's kind of weird. Live it sounds sort of like an Earth AD tune, but the ending isn't one of those feedback endings... My tape of this song has it being done on an acoustic, so I'm still getting used to the real version. > From: Guero 666 > Subject: Power & Fury Orchestra > > Perhaps this has been stated before and I missed it, but does anyone out > there know the members of the Power and Fury Orchestra??? This has had > me baffled for years. > In fact, it's on the web page. Glenn - vocals John Christ - acoustic guitars Chuck Biscuits - drums George Drakoulias - bass (Eerie was in the studio with them, but refused to do it because he didn't like the way they wanted him to play it. George D is a producer who works with American Recordings.) unknown sessions people - all other instruments > From: Adam Reygers > Subject: Halloween II > I came a across a recording of Halloween II but it sounds more metal than > the original version (i.e guitars) Could it have been done by Samhain or > just a different recording. If anyone would like a copy, just mail me. > By the way, when are the Misfits coming to Southern California? I am > looking forward to seeing them. Laters....... Yes, it's probably the Samhain version from November-Coming-Fire. > From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu > to mention that they (The Misfits) will be touring with Anthrax (ughhhhhh!!) > this summer, and it will be something like a 60 city tour. I also think > that the msifits will be the openers of the tour too, which i feel is totally > degrating, considering that the misfits were probably the inspiration and > influences of bands such as Anthrax. Well, I was under the impression that Anthrax would open for them. Also, you will never see a continuous Misfits tour of 60 cities. They will do their tours the way they always did - in 2 or 3 week blocks. It might be that they do 2 or 3 of these small blocks with Anthrax.... who knows. > From: "David P. Spampinato" <103353.3720@CompuServe.COM> > Boston Show, Sunday May 5 > Whoever has been a MIsfits fan from way back will not be able to stomach fat > doyle and his singer sidekick Billy "Michale" Idol. However, it was great to > hear the tunes played live. Die Die My D was excellent. They even broke out > Bullet. They also broke out with some new tunes because Doyle is just a greedy > man. Just go to see the old tunes played live otherwise you'll walk away hatin > these people. I'd like to hear from any one else that attended the show. David - I think you went to the wrong show. Michale doesn't sound or look anything like Billy Idol. You also seem to have mixed up Jerry and Doyle. As far as I know, Jerry's not a greedy man. Opinionated perhaps, but not greedy. mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:36:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Brustman Subject: Misfits in Boston > Boston Show, Sunday May 5 > > Whoever has been a MIsfits fan from way back will not be able to stomach fat > doyle and his singer sidekick Billy "Michale" Idol...Just go to see the > old tunes played live otherwise you'll walk away hating > these people. I'd like to hear from any one else that attended the show. > "Fat Doyle? Billy 'Michale' Idol? Walk away hating these people?" Well, I was at the Boston show on Sunday, May 5, but I don't think I was at the same show you were at, because we seem to have had completely different experiences. I didn't think Doyle was fat, although I did notice a tiny roll on Jerry's gut (of course, my roll is a lot bigger, so I shouldn't say anything. I only wish I was in as good a shape as Doyle and Jerry seem to be). And the show in Boston was fantastic. Set list similar to what other people have posted, and the sound seems like it might've been a bit better, 'cause I could recognize all the songs almost immediately. The show was sold out, it seemed to be about 100 degrees in the club, and I haven't had such a good time at a show in a long, long time. A very high energy show. As someone else said, Jerry Only does seem to really be enjoying himself, and it's fun to watch him. Doyle is moving around a bit (I was standing in front of Jerry, but Doyle came over to our side 3-4 times). Michale is amazing! Glenn who? Immediately after the show, Doyle and Jerry went to the t-shirt table. The crowd started chanting "free shit, free shit" and the brothers started winging stickers out into the crowd. What can I say about the Misfits '96 that hasn't already been said? Jerry Only has almost NO chest hair. For a while I thought he might've shaved it, but after a while I did detect a little bit sprouting from the center of his chest. Jerry don't shave. Finally -- the Misfits and Anthrax? Cool! Very cool! Bob Brustman brustman@hsph.harvard.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 12:46:47 -0700 From: Lael Subject: My first posting I guess for my first official posting I will give my bio. First, I just want to say how glad I am to have found this listing and thanks to Mark for starting it. 1 - Real name -- Lael 2 - Where do you go to school -- I graduated last year with a degree in bio-engineering. Getting ready to go to Johns Hopkins U. next spring to begin grad work in genetic research. Hopefully neo-natal research. 3 - Where do you work -- I work for the local AIDS council helping organize the buddy program and raise money for the council. 4 - What got you into the Misfits -- my first serious boyfriend was sXe and the music/lifestyle got to be a way of life for me. Our song was "Die Die My Darling." 5 - My favorite movie -- I have two. 'Clockwork Orange' and 'Sid and Nancy' 6 - Other bands -- Too many to possibly list. A few include: Sisters of Mercy, Channel X, New Order, Judge, Life of Agony, Sick of It All, The Icemen, M-people, Lycea, Dead or Alive. 7 - Other interests -- my work takes up a lot of my time, but other interests would include Frieda Kahlo, French, my godson, and trying to make my mark on this world before I die. 8 - Last book read -- 10 Minute Guide to MS-DOS 6 by Jennifer Flynn. (I do not recommend this unless you are having trouble sleeping.) 9 - My birthdate -- 4 October 1971. Well, I think that's everything. See you in the Bible. Lael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 12:10:39 -0500 From: JP Subject: Semi-sighting Hey, I've had some Misfits related sightings on TV recently. There's this show on USA called Reel Wild Cinema where they show clips from these really B-rated movies. Anyhow, last night they had the director of Bloodfeast (I think his last name is Friedman, I forgot though), and showed some portions of one of his movies. The week before they had Dana Gould talking about Vampira and how he's one of her few friends and the little story she told him about meeting Bela Lugosi. Anyway, that's all. Oh, for those of you that want to see this show, it's on at 11:00 PM central, Midnight Eastern. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 14:32:53 -0400 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Return of the Vids (and Auds) Hello - For those of you who haven't been able to get yourself a copy of the video and audio made by myself and EVB exclusively for Misfits Bible members, you're in luck. I have managed to con my little brother Mark into dubbing copies for about a month since I will be on tour and recording most of the summer. "Hymns from Hell" (the audio) is still $4.00 ppd and "Evil is as Evil Does" (the video) is now $10.00 ppd complete with black and white sleeves. The reason for this hike is simple - my brother has better things to do than sit around and dub tapes and stuff envelopes and then take them to the post office for a month, so I think he should be compensated just a little bit for his efforts (it breaks down to less than two bucks an hour after tape and shipping costs...). Remember, this kid could give a f*ck about the Misfits Bible, he's doing this primarily to help me out since I can't do it this summer. If anybody disagrees with this decision, please let me know through personal email. Otherwise, send your orders to this address *BEFORE JUNE 5, 1996*: Misfits Audio/Video c/o Brent Eyestone 2005 Monitor Drive Stafford, VA 22554 The prices are ppd in the US only, foreign fiends throw in a couple extra dollars for shipping purposes. Checks and M.O.'s should be made out to Brent Eyestone. This is the last time the tapes will be available until Christmas. You can't find better quality vintage Misfits footage than what is on these tapes. THIS IS THE TAPE THAT ALL THOSE BOOTLEGGING ASSHOLES OUT THERE COPIED THEIR FOOTAGE FROM AND ARE NOW CHARGING $20.00 FOR. DO NOT BUY FROM THESE CROOKS. If you need track listings, hunt them down in back issues of the Misfits Bible, available on Mark's web page. The address ALWAYS appears at the bottom of the bible. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:38:38 -0400 Subject: Hello Anthrax and the Misfits??? Am I in heaven? Question---a lot of the stories coming from the shows are really cool...but this makes me concerned. There is NO way the Chicago security would EVER let people get anywhere near the stage. I mean, I've been to the Vic, Whale, Riv, and Aragon (never to the Metro), and I've only seen ONE person get on stage (Anthrax--Vic). If the Whale would stay open, okay yeah, damn, I've been on the stage at the Whale, but I don't know.....what's the Metro like? Bobby, I hate to ask you about someone else, but I've heard that GG Allin was a big act, and that yeah he was screwed up on stage and he did do drugs and all that, but his "I hate everyone" attitude was a bunch of crap (quote Richard Roeper on that....of course this is the guy who bitched that there are too many Shannon Tweed moives on HBO...as long as there's not a Shannon Tweed network, there's NEVER too many movies with her). Any help on how true this is? As far as the one who mentioned Maiden....Blaze and Dickinson are the same person! I'm convinced. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:04:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Subject: Last call: T.O. show! Last Call. Any Fiends goin' to the Toronto show(Friday) and want to meet some where let me know! If not than fuck y', see you in the pit!! Later, Brad "And she was cold and mean. Kind of evil make me want to grab my sub-machine" -Johnny Cash ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: RI show, Mars Attacks, Lancaster i went to the ri show and it was fucking awesome... to everyone who was there i was the guy with the misfits spiked leather jacket... hmmm well anyways, i was one of the ones there, since there were a lot of leather jackets at that show! Babyhead was packed. there were only a few assholes and posers there... mainly just a bunch of great people. three people next to me passed out and i almst did as well it was so hot and so packed... Uranium 238 or whatever was ok, Sardonica was pretty good... and the misfits were incredible... i can't even remember all the songs they played but they played a lot of them including blacklight, and i think the hunger... i kept screaming for mars attacks but i guess they didn't want to play it yet. the new songs definatly song like the old songs same style and all... though i could hardly hear or understand anyof the vocals. they definatly need t turn up michael's mic... everyone was great... i was a little disapointed with michael's voice but he made up for it with shear attitude. Dr. Chud was excellent except fot theone time he fucked up and played the wrong soung... but jerry and doyle just looked at each other with a silly grin, shrugged it off and went right into the song... i wonder if anyone else noticed. the bouncer's at the club were the best, nicest i've ever seen in any club, they were very considerate and gave all of us up front water and gatorade.Jerry was amazing... he was acting like a kid... i bet he had more fun than anyone else at the show, he even stage dove and was floated to the back of the club to sign things. unfrtuantly only jerry was there to sign things... everyone else was surely too tired. he signed the sleeve of my jacket and shook my hand... i left cause the people from the club were getting mad and wanted everyone to leave. outside there were several fights Sal B. from sardonica even stepped outside to cheer everyone on, calling us "young hooligans" as some guy got his face bashed in on the ground. it was almost a riot outside there were punks everywhere... i thought at anymoment providence was going to go rodney king all over the place. well anyways it was great, i can't wait to see them in lancaster tomorrow night... i'll be wearing my jacket and my astrozombies shirt so i hope to see some of you there... my friend & i are gonna hang out at that angry young and poor store thats near the club b4 the show and pick up some more spikes... i hope they turn up the vocalsthough and play mars attacks... i'm fixated on hearing that song... i saw a mars attacks book at barnes & nobles last week it had a trading ard inside that looked pretty shitty... i didn't buy the book regardless... though i will if i see it again... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 16:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Subject: power and fury orchestra >Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 22:50:01 -0400 (EDT) >From: Guero 666 >Subject: Power & Fury Orchestra here you go. from the majick page (do you guys ever look at it?) GLENN DANZIG AND THE POWER AND FURY ORCHESTRA ============================================= # TIME VOCALS/KEYBD BASS ACOUSTIC GTR DRUMS/TAMBOURINE --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 4/87 Glenn Danzig George Drakoulias John Christ Chuck Biscuits Soon after signing with Rick Rubin's Def American label, Rubin asked Glenn to do a song for the Less Than Zero soundtrack. According to Eerie Von, "You And Me" was based on the song "To Sir With Love". It was the first time the Danzig lineup had recorded a song together and Eerie didn't like the way Rubin wanted the bass played. He gave the bass to George Drakoulias, who later produced the first Black Crowes album. The rest of the musicians featured on the song were unknown session musicians. **** okay, now you know.... for future reference, try snooping around Mark's page: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ Mike mtw4@axe.humboldt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 96 21:13 +0100 From: Peter Moeller Subject: Eerie Tattoo Hi, I wonder if anybody would mind a Danzig question for a change? Who cares anyway... We all know Glenn'S tattoos, but could someone tell/explain me what kind of thing Eerie has on his arm? I never got a better look on it... just wondering... Peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 21:15:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Ed Sulzbach Subject: Philly show The Philthadelphia show was awesome! It was definitely the best show I've ever been to. The was just so much energy and enthusiasm. It seemed that at first people were pretty skeptical but as soon as the Misfits got on stage and started playing, people went fucking nuts. The coolest thing was that you could tell that they were really happy to play and happy to see all the fans going nuts. I can't describe how awesome the show was, there were a little to many neo-nazis for my liking but they were on the most part pretty cool and only started a few fights. The only disappointment I had was that they didn't come out after the show. Sal from Sardonica and some roadies said that they immediatley went to the bus and left. Oh well, it was still cool. P.S.-I like the 2nd and 3rd bible t-shirt designs. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 14:15:04 -0400 (EST) From: Tyler Buckmaster Subject: Respect/Canada I totally agree with the person who felt that it was degrading for the 'fits to open for Anthrax...it was the same with the Ramones opening for White Zombie... AGAIN: Any fiends going to the Toronto show Email so we can hook up... Lates, CAiN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 96 07:27:59 0500 From: American Nightmare Subject: (no subject) The boston show was great they played the hunger and blacklight and they were good also they were a little different but they were still good ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 10:01:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Asselin Subject: 05.05.96 - Middle East Downstairs, Cambridge, MA First off, the opening bands. Uranium 235: We've heard the whole "industrial"/metal hybrid before, but they were somewhat entertaining. Think WaxTrax! and you'll know what they sound like. The guitarist/vocalist guy is a Reznor wannabee, but I wasn't wishing they would get the hell off the stage... ...unlike Sardonica. Look, they mean well, and they were honest in their intentions, but jesus christ, they *cannot* play OR write songs. Guitarist Fish yelled "ROCK!" about a dozen times inside of a 30m set. I was close to getting up on the stage and unplugging his mike to save us all from his idiocy. Summing up: Sardoncia's set was musical Purgatory. Avoid. Ok.. so about 20m later, they hit the stage. Jerry comes out and goes running from stage left to right, and I think he's going to run right out the door or into the wall. Doyle scowls. I never saw Chud come out, and Michale was nondescript. Actually, I wasn't even playing attention to him, but I know he didn't come out naked or on fire or anything. They immediately kicked into "Halloween" and barely stopped. The show was mostly a blur, with Jerry's Ramones-inspired "ONE-TWO-THREE-GO!" kicking off every song. Sal B came out for "We Are 138". Michale did some lame Pearl Jam-ceiling hanging. As I was leaving, Jerry and Michale came bounding back in through the front entrance of the club to hang out with people inside, with Jerry bellowing "HOW DID IT GO?" and "HOW WAS IT? EH?" to everyone he encountered. I had to catch a train so I couldn't stay. The funniest moment, for me, was seeing the sweat destroy Doyle's devillock, leaving him with a clump of electrical tape hanging in his face. I has a good laugh at Doyle's expense. Ho ho. Setlist: Halloween | Horror Business | I Turned Into A Martian | Death Comes Ripping | All Hell Breaks Loose | The Hunger | Static Age | TV Casualty | Hybrid Moments | Last caress | Skulls | Devil's Whorehouse | Return of the Fly | Teenagers From Mars | Children in Heat | Violent World | Vampira | Blacklight | The Haunting | Night of the Living Dead | 20 Eyes | Hollywood Babylon | Horror Hotel | Ghouls Night Out | Attitute | London Dungeon | Astro Zombies | Hate Breeders | Bullet | We Are 138 Encore: Green Hell | Queen Wasp | Devillock | Bloodfeast | Mommy, Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight? | Die Die My Darling My opinions: o Michale Graves needs to get his own persona. Quickly. o The sound was terrible. Bass? What bass? o They butcher Static Age material with that shitty Metallica/heavy metal style of guitar playing. o "The Hunger" and "Blacklight" are crap, but "The Haunting" was pretty decent. It's the closest they can probably get to aping Glenn's songwriting style. Okay, last but not least, I did tape the show (it was also videotaped, but I'm unsure if it was for the band. They *did* dedicate a song to 'our cameraman'.), but like I said, there is almost no bass in it. Actually it sounds just like all the other live shows we've heard from them. It times out at about 70m. I am willing to trade with anyone who wants it (not just limited to Misfits material) or I will sell copies for $5 ($3 if you supply your own tape). For obvious reasons, trading is preferred. E-mail me for more info. - Dave pmack@shore.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 16:06:40 +0200 From: Dalkiel Subject: Re: Halloween II >I came a across a recording of Halloween II but it sounds more metal than >the original version (i.e guitars) Could it have been done by Samhain or >just a different recording. Danzig used to play Halloween II live on the Lucifuge tour, maybe its them. Have it on a boot (Demon Danz) Dalkiel ------------------------------ From: bronson@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 07:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Tour Hey all, I've heard a rumor that the 'Fits are going on tour with with Boston this summer. Is this true? Anybody know anything about this? Sounds suspicious to me. BTW - Gotta love the box set. Mark, cool page man. Best fucking thing I've seen on the net in a long time, dude. Keep rocking. ------------------------------ From: SsegrubA@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 13:31:51 -0400 Subject: hello Greetings! i'm new to this list, no time for a bio right now, but am wondering if there are any fiends who are going to be at the Cleveland show this Sunday. later..... ------------------------------ From: UNDRMYN666@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 14:32:13 -0400 Subject: Misfits Bible Post I'm a long time Misfits fan and this is my first post on the bible. I saw the Misfits Last night in in Danbury, CT at Sub Zero's (a show that my band UNDERMINE was supposed to open, and got screwed out of at the last minute). When my girlfriend and I walked into the back room before the show this big balding guy was standing behind the bar putting on make up. I was shocked because it was Jerry Only himself. My punkless girlfriend asked him for a tissue while I stood awestruck. I guess He noticed because he introduced himself and continued to spray "GLU" in his devilock. From there I met DR. CHUD, DOYLE and finally Michale Graves ( who had just beat the hell out of some punk who kicked him in the face while stage diving). The show kicked ass and I got to sing "Die Die My Darling" (which UNDERMINE covers) with Jerry. So even though I didn't open for the Misfits the show still ruled and I retired an old misfits shirt I had with all of the bands signatures on it. Oh yeah, Michale Graves has a really hot girlfriend. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 16:00:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Qayin Downs Subject: Stone pony show I was gonna post about that show sooner, but my machine's been acting up on me again. Anyway, I see that just about everything worth saying about the show has already been said. I'm glad most people thought Flatus were all right, cuz I know those guys and they had to work their asses off to release thier music. I agree that Both Worlds(was that their name?) sucked and that band Sardonica wasn't so great either. Did anybody mention that Graves tried to break a fight happening in the pit, or that he got head-butted by big ol' Jon Grimm when he was crowd-riding? Also, I forget what song it was---actually I couldn't really tell, but it was after Return of the Fly---, but Jerry seemed disappointed with it. He had a sour look on his face, and said "Aren't you glad we played that one?" I was blown away by them actually playing Static Age & TV Casualty. During Skulls I actually grabbed Mike's hand, pulled it down to me, and started singing the chorus(YEAH!).After the show, I bought a sticker & got it signed by Jerry. Him & Chud signed my arms, too. Didn't see Doyle around, but I think Jerry's kids and wife were there. After the show started, some little girl came up on stage and sprayed the crowd w/a super soaker, and he gave her and this other late-30s woman w/a 10-yr-old boy a big hug & kiss. Anyway, the main reason I'm writing is that I'm wondering what people thought of the new songs. They did 2; I don't know what the first one was, cuz there was so much guitar on it that I couldn't hear the beat or vox. The second one was BlackLight, and I thought it was actually good. I asked when their new stuff was coming out, they said they would start recording it at the end of the month, which kinda struck me as odd, since I don't see how they'll have time to record while they're on tour. What did the rest of you at that show think? Did they play any new stuff at any other shows? Last couple of things to say: to adam kriney: I think a music store near me has those heads you were looking for, for Jerry. I'll check & let you know, if you want. to Bobby Steele: Saw Times Square play at cbgb's about a month or so ago. You were damn good, and I was wondering if you were playing in Nj or NYC anytime soon. A guy I know says that C.J. Ramone was there too, and said that he saw your band & liked ya. to Wes Thomas: I don't know who you are or what you're about, but if you don't like any of the people on this list, why don'cha just get the fuck off it? well, enough of my bullshit, -----Art. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 16:17:32 -0400 From: Valgamon Subject: THE MISFITS if anyone ever tells you the misfits getting back together is a joke, a ripoff, whatever, they are WRONG, and after lastnight I will stake my LIFE on that fact!! They were tight as HELL, better than any of their old live recordings I've heard. Their stage presence was fucking GREAT, the drums had SPIKES, the singer was better than Danzig and they played all but maybe 3 or 4 of their entire collection of songs, plus two new ones! They had so many Marshalls turned up so loud that they actually blew a fuse at one point and all the lights went out! People who saw them on Sunday at Club Babyhead in Rhode Island and who were also there lastnight told me that this show blew Babyhead away. I can't believe how fucking great they sounded, how tight they were, and that they were actually NICE AND FRIENDLY, which is not what you'd expect after not playing shows for 13 years, and with 2 new members. Anyone even REMOTELY near Lancaster, PA owes it to themselves to go see them tonight!! And think about it... if Danzig was singing, would the price the same? Would they be playing stadiums instead? Would the members all be in such good spirits? NO. Anyway I caught a drumstick and both Jerry and Doyle signed it. -- Valgamon Conn. Food Not Bombs 800.241.7337 ext 1673# Crypto-Anarcho-Libertarian-Punk - http://www.megahits.com/valgamon/index.htm PGP keyprint: DF 69 C6 EC E2 A2 AB 50 24 72 AA 0A 00 F8 30 F4 (ID 329781) kampen f=F6r tillvaron/sl=E5ss f=F6r lika r=E4ttigheter/motst=E5ndare till= k=E4rnkraft ------------------------------ From: neil kaiser Subject: I SAW THE MISFITS!!!! Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 15:44:31 -0400 (EDT) It was so awesome at Sub Zero's last night.. They were the nicest guys ever.. And funny as hell.. My highlight was jumping on stage for 138 and I got it on video!!! HAHAHAHAH! Yes.. Chud.. I LOVE YA MAN! You are the best Tom.. great hanging out with you.. Evan.. wow man you made it all possible.. You are great Justine You are the coolest person I have met in a long time All Misfits fans.. STAY WITH THEM MAN! Mike and Chud got it.. They are real.. It was the coolest night... Thanks for listening to me brag This was my first punk show.. up until now I'd only seen stoner bands like The Dead and Allmans... Anyone want to write me that was there or just in general Kaiser27@matrix.newpaltz.edu Neil MISFITS RULE!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 13:47:54 -0700 (PDT) From: PRH Subject: its springtime for Misfits and New Jersey fiendlings, I did not see the Misfits yet, and I really want to. Has anybody else on this list seen the old Misfits except Bobby? (and even then, he was on stage and that aint the same, I'm the fan first and foremost, he's a musician so his perspective is going to be different..)but I am anxious to be able to see the DIFFERENCE not the similarities. Now I have never seen all these fab videos y'all are talking about but I have seen the real thing up close and in person, ya know, and here's the thing--I think Glenn is a great singer and pretty good musician and a real good songwriter--now.. but back then, kids it was PUNK ROCK. a lot of out of tune guitars and yelling. Nothing like the best studio stuff at all!! But...and as Pee Wee Herman would say, thats a big but!..IT WAS FUN! and that is what rock and roll is all about. Fun and excitement and hopping around and appreciating it. I like it ALL. I like(d) the Misfits. I like Bobbys stuff-- i really like TIMES SQUARE btw Bobby,fuckin great!--and I just bet i will like the new Misfits, based on what I 've heard here, because it sounds like fun! Plus it also sounds like the music just MIGHT sound a little better than it used to. if the band is having fun and the audience is having fun, what difference who wrote the songs they are doing? If they did a cover of Tiny Bubbles would everyone sniff, " hmm that Michale Graves is no Don Ho!"--no shit! allllsooo....as to the Henry Rollins-Hero or Villain stuff, all I can say is Rollins is so anti-fun its preposterous. His selfrighteous, humorless attitude is everything that is NOT rockandroll. He steals shamelessly from everyone from Glenn himself to Lydia Lunch and passes himself off as some kind of icon because he beats off instead of banging groupies. Well, so what ? Glenn used to be able to keep it in his pants a lot better than the little Garfield boy--something that has served him well in these scary sexual times!--and he just got called a faggot for it then...at least he knew how to keep his personal life personal!whyncha steal that from him Henry instead of his fashion tips. never mind F-Jackie! lets start saying oh yeah, F--HENRY! love to you all, patricia ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::: "as the day stops dead...at the place where we're lost.."--h.devoto ::: ::: patricia ragan hoehner ::: ::: nrwidow@netcom.com ::: ::: Quicklime Girl ::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ From: Danzig4192@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 19:02:58 -0400 Subject: Love that Dirty Water.... My review of the Boston Show: I had a great time and I think most people who were there did (or should have). The fun began in line when this dude with a GG Allin jacket on was giving the driver of the WBCN van a hard time ("I think you're at the wrong show" and "Let's tip it over"), he was obnoxious but funny and ended up stealing the WBCN stickers and throwing them up in the air into the crowd The 2 opening acts were decent (better than I usually see at clubs) but we just hung out in back and people watched, before the Misfits came on we moved up front to about 3 people back from the stage, they came out and started with Halloween and pandemonium began! I did alright for awhile staying in place and getting whacked around by the pit but then I took a forearm in the face and when I turned around to return the favor I got my foot stamped on (had my big toe operated on last week=ouch!) so I had to bail out and took up residence about 20 ft from stage. My wife bailed out a little while after that. They played pretty much everything I really wanted to hear (did I miss Nike??) and I picked up almost all of the songs right away so I think the mix might have been better than EVB's show but it did get murky at times (I only recognized Bullet 3/4 of the way through it, then the guy next to me says "I hope they play Bullet" 10 seconds after the song, I told them they just did, and he frowns and says "no way, really?" and began pouting in earnest). I was psyched to hear Children in Heat and surprised they did most of Earth AD/Wolfsblood. Michael did a great job, stage diving and climbing on the ceiling ducts like a monkey, and I think he sounds a LOT like Glenn. They ended with Die Die and right when everyone was filing out, Jerry and Doyle ran through the entrance into the crowd, high-fiving people, jump behind the merchandise table and starting throwing stickers and stuff into the crowd (to the chants of "Free shit! Free shit!"). No $20 t-shirts were being tossed though so I left (I got 2 hours of sleep before going to work). I did try to high five Doyle but he missed so I got his pectoral instead (easy, killer!) and this reporter reports it is solid! It was well worth the trip and I give it 2 thumbs up! Andy ps Anyone who was there, I was the one wearing black! ;-) ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 22:04:19 EDT Subject: ct show well the CT show, for anyone who was there will probably be hailed as the best show of the tour. I don't know why, nut there was NO publicity of the show anywhere, and maybe thats why there were only like 150 kids there at the most, no kidding! And there were no bouncers either, so it was a small cool crowd, and no bouncers, which to me equals a formula for fun!!! They invited people onstage to sing too. Now anyone who was there from the bible, I know that you saw me, becasue I was the kid who kept going on the stage and singing with jerry into his mic. I had a blue shirt on, jean shorts, and i have glasses, so I know that you had to see me, I helped the guys out on Return of the Fly, Bullet, and Some Kinda hate, it was the best! also i got the whole band to autograph my frisbee (yeah no shit!) and everyone in the band, except Doyle, to sign my ruler (really!!!!). some kid there had the Tennagers from mars acetate 7", I coukdn't believe it, and he had jerry sign it!! God I can't wait to ee the fits again! If anyone on the bible saw me at the show, please e-mail me and let me know so that i can think that I am cool! Adam kriney kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu GOATFIT@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 19:20:58 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: a few tings - hehehe ---->Bobby Said: >To WES THOMAS, >YOU are either the biggest asshole, or the master of sarcasm. I can't >figure you out, but you piss me off, and make me laugh at the same time. >I've been holding back on my sarcasm ,because most people don't get it. >It's gotten me in a lot of trouble over the years, so now I save it for >gigs and where people can see my face, and hopefully see that I'm just >bustin' their balls. I happen to agree with Bobby on this one, I'm kinda getting used to Wes's sarcasm and I really look forward to it. He'll probably flame me for saying that but fuck him he's funny! Bobby also brings up a very good point going back to the Jerry doing interviews thread: (Bobby, I respect you and consider you a friend but I feel the need to bring you down a few pegs - don't take offense at this) >I've been holding back on my sarcasm ,because most people don't get it. >It's gotten me in a lot of trouble over the years, so now I save it for >gigs and where people can see my face, and hopefully see that I'm just >bustin' their balls. Hate to use your own words against you Bobby, but you know as well as I do how Jerry talks. Jerry talks like that he always has, he always will. You know goddamn well that Jerry talks with alot of hand movements, laughs and winks. As a matter of fact that wink is classic Jerry punctuation. At least he's saying it in public. You are the one going behind his back saying shit and starting controversy, get over it. The moral of the story is "Don't believe everything you hear." >I'm beginning to notice a pattern in his behavior, and that includes >trashing anyone who knows the REAL jerry, so as to discredit anything they >might say about him. Kinda the way members of the MAFIA respond about their >accusers when they're getting cornered. I can't believe you actually said that, that has gotta be the piss poorest analogy I've heard in my life. Every time you open your mouth you stick your foot in it. Are you that pissed off that the band literally hates you? Bobby, I value your input on this list and actually like you as a person but when you continuously bad mouth people because of bitterness it really makes your true colors show through. hmmmm next: Someone last issue or so semi-flamed Patricia about her picking on Henry Rollins. Well I gotta opine on that too. Bullshit!!!! Henry is such a fucking self promoting, no singing, whore it's not even funny. He was actually featured in George magazine in an article about being virtuous. I almost puked. Here is Hank talking about how great and virtuous Fugazi is, funny thing is how does that make him virtuous? Yes I tip my hat to Fugazi, they are DIY and damn proud of it, they are virtuous. But Rollins is a piece of shit under my fucking heel. He'd sell his own mother if she'd turn a buck. --->Mark Said: >Near the end of the encores, Jerry dedicated "She" to me, since I had >asked him to play it before the show. I hadn't heard them do that song >since I saw them rehearse in October of '94 before they had a singer.... so it >was pretty cool. After the show, Jerry gave me a big hug. He was really >having a great time... Everybody seemed to have enjoyed it. Hmmmm.....everybody but EVB anyway Mark, I'm so happy that you were able to have that experience. You've been my friend for quite some time now and it was really good to hear you all pumped up about it. Like we've always said, when we were some of the priviledged few that knew what was going on, the band is fucking incredibly tight, we knew it, we knew they'd be good. Fuck they'd be good with that bitch from the cranberries yodeling over them. -->From: Mark Russell --->Subject: Have no doubt, the new misfits rule The subject line says it all! Oh boy!, this oughta be fun...... ---->EVB Said: >I m still sorting out my feelings about it. I guess it was less than I d >hoped for but better than what I was afraid of. Hmm... is that damning with >faint praise? I know I didn t expect to see the "original" Misfits (by that >I mean any line up that would have included Glenn Danzig) so I wanted to cut >them some slack but I was still disappointed. That just about sums up the difference between me & you Elizabeth. Your vision of the "original misfits" is a lineup that includes Glenzig. My vision is a lineup that includes both Jerry & Glenn. It's awful strange that your post is the first I've read that actually rips them apart. EVERYONE else claims to have really enjoyed the shows. Things change, bands evolve, Glenn has, the Misfits will. I can only hope to see the day when I can laugh in your petty face, until that day I will be happy with the knowledge that I was right all along. I don't consider you a Misfit's fan, I consider you a Danzig fan. How can you possibly criticize them without bias?? I get the impression from your post that you're pissed that they actually sounded good, it disappointed you that they didn't fail. What I really want to know is: how you're gonna get all that shit off your nose if Glenn ever stops in mid-stride? >For me the high point of the evening came early - I REALLY enjoyed the first >opening band Uranium 235! Definitely influenced by NIN but certainly have >their own style. Picked up a copy of their demo tape & managed to find 3 >of the 5 members and have them autograph it for me. The true confessions of a mindless groupie. To me you really represent everything that sucks about music. I go to a record store to buy a rare hunk of vinyl, only to be told that it will cost me $50! Why is that vintage vinyl so expensive? Because fucking collectors drivin the price through the roof. Patricia did a wonderful thing for someone (and they who they are) it was perfect example of what I'm talking about. She gave away her black vinyl copy of Horror Business. She didn't sell it, she gave it to someone because that person loves the band, not a collector, not a groupie, a fan that will actually play it. we're talking about a piece of vinyl that was produced in the quantity of 25! She gave it away because she someone wanted it more than her. And more importantly in my opinion what the hell did she need it for? She has it on CD now. Big deal an autograph. How ridiculous is that? My neighbor Bob has tons of 'em, whoopie. His favorite is a picture I took of him playing with Buddy Miles, just a simple shot. Buddy signed it to him, then Bob turned around and signed it to me, then I signed it to both of them! It makes the picture have a story, It's also the only autographed pic Bob has chosen to grace his living room wall. Music was made to be played and enjoyed, not mindlessly collected. Take out your fucking Cough/Cool and listen to for a change, instead of just worshipping that stupid smirk Glenn has on the Jacket. May the insuing flames consume me.....As long as they are directed to the bible. Fuck you in advance if you don't like it, it's just my fucking opinion. ~~~~~~~~~~The Crimson Ghost ~~~~~~~~~~~~I will drug you and Fuck You, on the Permafrost! ---hd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 22:48:58 -0400 From: She Subject: Lighten up, asshole! Hey Fiends, I just wanted to apologize for any rude posts I've made over the last few months. I've been stressed out by exams and school work all semester long, and it's finally over for a while. Long live Michale Graves! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 23:58:31 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Well, what happens now... Well fiends summer is about to converge upon us which means a bunch of you are about to leave. It's been a pleasure getting to know all of you and thank your for participating in the Get to know you issue. I have one more person that sent in a late one. Plus, if you need to find me for the calendar that Pat is putting together. CAUSE WE NEED YOUR BIRTHDAYS!!! Just send the info to me since this is my account and not a school account. So here is the last one: From: ekrueger@ultranet.com (Ellen L. Krueger) Subject: the list... 1) Real Name -Lauren Krueger 2) Birthday -July 17, 1979 3) Where you got to school, what are you studying, and or where you work - Acton-Boxboro RHS, where I am barely studying. I work at a little gallery which sells handmade crafts...very punk 4) Other bands you like - Screeching Weasel, the Allstonians, Mephiskapheles, the Queers, MTX, Steady Earnest, John Coltrane, The Scofflaws, Squirtgun, Sonic Youth, Bonsai Buddha, Morphine, Alligator Gun, Minor Threat, Miles Davis, and other stuff too. 5) What got you interested in the Misfits - This kid who sat in back of me in History in seventh or eigth grade used to always sing "Skulls" but put my name in it instead of "little girls". Eventually I got the song so stuck in my head I had to find out what it was and when I listened to the rest of his Walk Among Us tape, I was hooked. There used to be a great store around here that sold all kinds of old Misfits stuff and they had a little shrine to Glenn Danzig. But now that I have a job and can afford some of it, they moved to California. 6) What are your other interests - My band: Aditya (I play bass, write lyrics & sing), my school's radio station (with a range about as big as the parking lot), art stuff & Taco Bell, Taco Bell, Taco Bell 7) What is the last book you read -Catch 22 (Heller). I was supposed to read "Tess of the D'Urbervilles" for school, so I got this instead. Love & stuff, LEK Hope to see you all back in the Fall, and by then there will be some new questions to answer!?! Later TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 176 Friday, May 10th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #175 Re: My review of the Cambridge, MA show nothing much Eeries Tattoo ProEdge gotta go couple things. Boston show ("the misfits?") chicago stages Re: Public Apology Misfits show Summer tour Anonymous Bible Dribble Re: Misfits Bible, #175 Re: Misfits Bible, #175 CG's comments about collectors... something cool. Re: Misfits Bible, #175 Misfits rule Re: Misfits Bible, #175 For Mark, NOT FOR THE BIBLE CT show - Wow! Winger .vs Trixter Re: a few tings Sardonica Hmmm... anthrax &misfits Saber Inc. Re: Misfits Bible, #175 Misfits, Manimals, and news happy birthday Sid! Where are all the Birthdays... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #175 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 11:20:36 -0400 (EDT) > From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu > > some kid there had the Tennagers from mars acetate 7", I coukdn't > believe it, and he had jerry sign it!! It actually turns out to have been the Evilive 7" acetate... I knew it was too good to be true. Also fiends - Collection II is now available on black vinyl. The copies in the store do not have the barcode UPC sticker on the back, so be careful when you think you've found a clear vinyl copy. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 12:08:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Asselin Subject: Re: My review of the Cambridge, MA show In re-reading my review of the show, I found that it seems to be rather negative. To set the record straight, regardless of what I think of Jerry's attempt to revive the Misfits, they *did* put on a good show. I never felt the urge to leave (well, except when Sardonica was playing ;). There was room for improvement, but that should be expected. They had it together better than I thought they would, and they should be commended for that. As an aside: I thought CG's firebombing of EVB was *way* out of line-- it was the equivalent of throwing a chair through a window to let in a breeze. - Dave Dave Asselin * pmack@shore.net * http://www.shore.net/~pmack/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 11:13:16 -0500 (CDT) From: David Arthur Aufox Subject: nothing much ok i don't post much, but i thought i would today.... ok here's who i am.... 1) david aufox 2) 02/11/74 3) i go to the university of illinois. i am a history, and communications dual major. 4) i got into the misfits from my sister when i was in fifth grade. she was older than me and listened to a lot of punk bands and a lot of new wave. she is pretty much at fault for my musical tastes. 5) other bands i like to name a few are: slint, naked raygun, promise ring, gilabend, pegboy, rodan, gauge, june of 44, friction, big black, sludgeworth, cap'n jazz, blue meanies, lincoln, braid, rapeman, supporting actress, sorona pine, lady on the five, hoover, tramula, girls against boys, the crown hate ruin, raio flyer, effigies, and the rachel's. 6) my interests are music, playing in my band civic, writing short stories and sketching. 7) favorite movie is jacob's ladder. 8) last book i read is lost rights by james bovard. ok.... now that the is done i'll actually say something... in response to whomever said that they would like to see the crowd get close to the band in chicago. you really listening to metal.... real simple... i haven't been to the aragon since 1988 when i saw danzing there, but the bouncers that you speak of are only at metal shows.... last time i was at the vic, i saw pegboy, the bollweevils, and another band i can't stand, apocalypse hoboken, people pretty much did whatever they wanted to. as far as the thirsty whale goes.... that place is a joke.... i honestly laugh and wonder how that place stays out of the red.... there are countless palces where bands play in and around the chicago area, where you can get up close... fireside is one of those places.... shit bands of all calibur play there, from starting bands like dianogha, to established bands like shellac. the metro can go either way depending on whose playing... i remember when i saw tar and jawbox play there crowds did what they like... there other options besides those types of venues as i have stated. but the rpoblem you won't know of themn or go to them, for the same reason you have never been to the metro.... they won't play metal. there is a lot of ggod shit going on in chicago, while it is stagnant compared to teh way things were a while, the scene is getting better. the problem is if youa re complaining about not being able to get close to a band or on stage, it is becuase you listen to metal, and don't go to the right places, becaus ethey refuse to play that crap. that brings me to another point.... i am really sorry to hear that the misfits are metalizing themselves, and the older material, and to futher add injury to insult to injury they might tour with anthrax.... that is pathetic..... i know people have called the new lin up a farse and claimed that the band is really dead. i support the band as they are now. times change, but to tour with a true washed up metal band, makes me a lot others cring at the thought. kryst the conquorer was pathetic... why are the misfits trying to become that band, musically and by the way they tour? i don't mean this with disrespect, but did jerry and doyle just fight to get the name so they could restart kryst and be allowed to play old misfits tunes? the misfits were a punk band... regardless of what they say... to me if they become a metal band they will no longer be the misfits.... music is about music.... not athetics, or vaules.... i have people definition of punk and these people really don't know much about it, or the punk that is around today. d.r.i. is a good example of what i am talking about. they were a punk band, who turned metal... and when they did that they were no longer a punk band.... quite similar to 7 seconds... only kevin seconds did his metal typs thing under than name drop acid rather then tarnish what 7 seconds has done. i know i am going to get flamed for this and that mark will disagree claiming that whatever the misfit sdo will be the misfits and stuff like that (if he cares enough to read this) i am going to ehck out the misfits either in detroit or when they come to chicago... but i hope that they will stay true to their roots and remain a ounk band rather than a washed up metalized band. i guess i would also like to see the band help out the national scene as well as the smaller punk secnes that helped them. im like the idea of playing small places... they shold also try and keep ticket prices down as well.... this whole metalization of the misfits bothers me.... i have a lot of respect for booby steele for one reason..... regardless fo what has happened to him in life and with others.... he has never comprimised his musical beliefs..... to me he is an example for what a true punk is, he stands up for what he beleives, and he never crossed over depsite how popular metal was, and he has also tried his best to remain in the undead, and times square, not the booby steele experience.... something he could have done a long time ago. it is sad if thsoe metal rumors of the misfits are tru.... becuase then booby will be the last punk of the misfits, while the others have shed their punk past and embraced metal.... very very sad... -dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 11:35:35 -0400 (EST) From: Tyler Buckmaster Subject: Eeries Tattoo To Peter Moeller.. I assume you're talking about the one on his right arm....he's got the cover from Samhains 'November Coming Fire'....as for if he has any others I don't know.... CAiN ->2 more days until the T.O. SHoW<- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 19:08:37 GMT Subject: ProEdge From: Smith Family I read on Mark's page (and what a great page it is) that the Misfit's work or own ProEdge knife company or something. Well I think it would rule to see a commercial with them in it for ProEdge Unborn ------------------------------ From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 16:01:16 EDT Subject: gotta go to all fiend that I correspond with, I will be leaving this address, kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu but you can still e-mail me at GOATFIT.aol.com so mark, please after Friday's bible, discontinue my bibles at this address. I saw a lot of people happy to hear that the Fits would be touring with Anthrax. Are you guys a bunch of fucking tools or what? Maybe, just maybe it would be cool to see Anthrax, that is with the old singer, and it would only be cool in that nostalgiac way, kinda like going to a twisted sister show or something, I wouldn't actually be like oh fuckin' yeah baby I am goin to see Anthrax, fuckin mosh it up!! but hey, I am an opinionated bastard. any propaghandi fans out there? I just picked up the new lp, and oh my christ, it is so good! hey did you all read that Bobby steel liked my bands demo, well isn't that reason enough for you to order it from me??? Its only 2 bux! to adam kriney 36 jackson street #2 long branch, nj 07740 check out our homepage at www.moonsite.com/lipmonger/ Julian baldry-where are you????????????????????????????????????????????? adam kriney GOATFIT@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 96 15:57:31 MDT From: "Cadet Kyle J. Pumroy, x4748" Subject: couple things. Hi, Just a few things/questions. For some reason every time I try to go to the Misfits page, my computer locks up. not enogh memory I think. I'm hearing about Chicago dates and stuff and I'd really appreciate it if somebody could email me all the tour dates schedualed after the cleveland show. PLEASE! Also, it seems there's alot of Anthrax fans here. is there a "bible" or something for them too? Or even a good web page? sorry, I know it's not really misfits related. I think it's too bad we have to read more about Crimson God's superior opinions. EVB, you're entitled to your opinions and it's too bad somebody has to criticize you for them. So what if everyone but her loved the shows? Minorities opinions are meaningless I guess. I'm not criticizing CG's opinions, just his attitude towards other's. Mark, you think Jerry would let me play bass for a song if I see them? Allright, probably not, just day dreaming here. Happy mother's day, Kyle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 18:30:32 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: Boston show ("the misfits?") Umm, I went to the Boston show, because I felt like it was my duty. But, all you Glenn who? people are fooling yourselves and you know it. The new singer is not that bad, but its not the same and the new songs seemed bland "when one could tell what was being played." Oh well, just my opinion. I still wish the new band good luck and I respect Jerry and Doyle tons because of...(well I dont have to explain it to any of you.) Wes Thomas is a penis-girl. ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 17:44:33 +0200 Subject: chicago stages i know what you mean about no one getting o stage, chris... it's hard at the metro, too.. but actually i saw a LOT of people on stage when theToasters played (ska). that was only because the band invited people to come up and dance. after a while, though, the security kicked em all off. i dunno about misfits w/ anthrax...i don't like it... There'll be way too many people...i don't want to have to wait in line for tickets. and plus itll be packed with effin headbangers. i hate it when tons of people sdhow up for opening acts. oh well.... i guess i'll just sit and wait for the chicago show now. sigh. -greg "do you realize that i like this beast i am?" ------------------------------ Date: 08 May 96 11:34:06 EDT From: "David P. Spampinato" <103353.3720@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Public Apology I must apologize, in my haste I mixed the names of Jerry and Doyle after seeing the Boston show. Jerry is the fat one, but I will make no apology for the comparison of Michale to Billiy Idol. They got nothin wiothout Danzig. I will stick to the old recordings. No new shit, The "new Misfits" are ruining the legacy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 15:32:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Fama Subject: Misfits show I AM BRETT. NOT FRANK. > From: Valgamon > And think about it... if Danzig was singing, would the price the same? Would > they be playing stadiums instead? Would the members all be in such good > spirits? NO. I assume this is some sort of backhanded comment to indicate that Glenn is greedy or something. Consider that Glenn has a record company and managers to pay, as well as the club they're playing in. And I would hardly call Danzig a "stadium band," despite the large venues they have sometimes played in. For the record, I first saw Danzig in Toronto in 1993 for $15.50. The price of the Misfits show in Toronto this Friday is $12.50. AND they're at different venues. Glenn can "steal" my $3 any day. And as for the "high-spirits" comment, YES, Danzig has had some off-days, especiially if you talk to anywone who saw them on their last tour. But they have also had some amazing shows. It still amazes me how so many of you say you love the new Misfits so much, and how they don't need Glenn, and blah blah blah blah, yet you always feel the need to make comparisons and insult him. Face it. The Misfits are not upstaging Glenn...they are carrying on with out him. Just because he doesn't talk about them does not mean that he feels overshadowed or any of this other crap. It means he's busy with his new band and his comic books. Glenn forgot the Misfits long ago; it's time the Misfits did the same, or they will never succeed on their own. and before you all freak out at me...yes, I am looking forward to seeing the Misfits. I seriously doubt that my reaction will be as positive and gushing as most of yours have been, but I also doubt that I will be as disappointed as EVB. I am primarily a fan of Glenn Danzig's music and singing, but I hope for their own sake that the Misfits can do well without it. When they write and record more of their own songs (ie: not old ones written by Glenn) THEN you can start dancing on his grave, if you really believe that they are a better band without him. For me, for now, I'm just going to see a (hopefully) good show, and maybe meet the Misfits -brett ------------------------------ From: Mike Schneir Subject: Summer tour Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 18:38:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: bronson@aol.com > > Hey all, > I've heard a rumor that the 'Fits are going on tour with > with Boston this summer. Is this true? Anybody know anything > about this? Sounds suspicious to me. > More than suspicious: it's wrong. They're touring with Journey, not Boston. -mike ------------------------------ Date: 08 May 96 21:36:48 EDT From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Anonymous Bible Dribble Bible Members/ Brent Eyestone, Sorry to pick on you Brent, but I have something to say about the $10 videos and especially you calling the other bootleggers "crooks" or "assholes" (I am NOT a bootlegger by the way). Why are they crooks and not you? You said in your ad in the bible that your brother was making $2 per video. If some bootlegger makes more why is he a crook and not you. I wouldn't sit around and make videos, even for $10 per hour, I can get much more doing other things. If it's not for the money, do it free (have the bible members send you a video and $1.50 in stamps, send it back full of Misfits footage). If you are accepting money in excess of the cost of the tape and postage, you owe the Misfits money - or YOU ARE A BOOTLEGGER (i.e. Asshole, crook...). I was under the impression that the Misfits did not appreciate that kind of stuff. -Avid Misfits fan ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 02:53:26 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #175 To CG about EVB: First off, I saw the misfits in London and expressed disappointment. So, evb is not the first. And yes, you are right about Jerry and Glenn being the MiSFiTS. But you insinuate that a New Misfits is more valid with Jerry Only than with Glenn Only (ha ha, get it?). After seeing them, I know they are both necessary for a true misfits line-up, but I do believe Glenn (the guy who wrote the music, lyrics, and created the image and artwork) to be MORE integral to the line-up than Jerry. Although the bass was of supreme importance to the misfits sound, so was glenn's voice. What would the Misfits have been with a guy with Ian McKay's voice and Sid's (you know sid, I love him, but he was stoopid) mentallity?...noise with a faintly interesting bass line. Doctor Aaron David Proctor, MD Proctology "Bend over. This won't take a moment." P.S. I love the 'fits. I love the box set. I love fiends. I love Wes Thomas. ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 02:57:56 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #175 CG: Can you defin groupie and fan for me? You seem to me a little presumptuous. What makes your love of the 'fits different from EVB's? Because she liked the opening band???? Dr. ADP,MD Proctology ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 22:36:11 -0400 Subject: CG's comments about collectors... Hey CG , I really don't give a fuck about your comments aimed at specific people. That's your opinion , your entitled to it. It's America. Keep in mind what a wise man (my uncle) once said though , "Opinions are like assholes , every one has one. Most of them stink." However , it burns me up ( and I should really give you benefit of doubt here , cuz the post was garbled on Aol , so I'm not even 100 % sure I should direct this at you , and I don't know if I got the entire message , but...) when you generalize about collectors. You should go back a few issues and read my post on collector bashing. Do you go into Wal-Mart and expect to find a Van Gogh original for $15 ?! NO! Do you go to Stan's Previously Owned Vehicles and pay $300 for a cherry '73 Trans Am w/a 455 Super Duty?! NO!! The reason you pay $50 for that rare vinyl is cuz it's RARE! A marbled Who Killed Marilyn is a piece of rare art , of course it should be valued more than a Thriller LP , get it?! It's all supply and demand. Yes , it's a shame there are collectors that won't even spin their vinyl. Too bad. Know what , though? It's their record so they can do what they want with it as far as I'm concerned. It's their own private property to do with as they see fit. Just as it made Patricia happy to give away that H-Biz 7" ( which was cool as fuck) , it might make someone else equally happy to sit and stare at an unplayed white 3 Hits. Anyway , on a completely different note , everyone should fully support PRH's fabulous calendar project. It's going to be well worth while. If you have any info to contributeto it , by all means do. Birth / Death dates of horror / sci-fi stars , directors , interesting dates in general , whatever else. ------------------------------ Subject: something cool. Date: Wed, 8 May 96 22:37:30 EDT From: Blood Feast you know on the cover of Evilive how at the top of the three coffins the crimson ghost has a pair of outstretched, skeletal claws? Well I found out where they're from. Its from the poster of a movie called "The Embalmer". I found a picture of it at http:/www.cat.pdx.edu/~caseyh/horror/poster/index.html there's a lot of cool posters there, but definitely check out "the Embalmer" cuz it's really cool. see ya bloodfeast. ------------------------------ From: "Roger Holmes" Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 00:07:30 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #175 Well I made it back. Here is a quick summary of the shows I took in: Babyhead, Providence It rocked. I had a crimson ghost painted on my face and a black sweater. Met a few people and they seemed cool. The songs were great. Micheal Graves is great. He really looks like he was having a good time. They even played "Who killed Marilyn". Met Jerry at the t shirt stand and told him we drove from Canada for 10 hours to see them so he told me and my friends to come by the next show early. Got lots of autographs. Middle East, Caimbridge This was one of the highlights of my trip. We showed up 4 hours early. We walked downstairs and and watched the band rehearse. It was great. Some waitress asked us who we were and she told Jerry about us but he said it was cool. Shit like that is what made the trip so awsome. They played one of the new songs, I think it was the Hunger and it was really good. Sorry Bobby, it wasn't some metal song. Micheal sang "Theme for a Jackal" by himself. He has a really great voice. Perfect for the Misfits. The show was cool but there was a bunch of cocksucking jocks being dicks during the opening bands. The band was really tight durring the set and Micheal was all over the place, hanging from the ceiling and shit. It was cool. SubZero, Danbury This was the best show. Small crowd. I was right up front in a red shirt. I got lots of REALLY good pics. I got pics with Jerry and Doyle together, Chud, and Micheal on the street. People asked me who he was after I got my pic with him. The highlight was 138. Sal B started singing then eveyone was up there within seconds. It was a blast. Jerry and the boys were all cool. Doyle was all over the stage too and he even handed me a couple of pics. The Misfits are back. Fuck everyone else. ------------------------------ From: UNDRMYN666@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 01:52:25 -0400 Subject: Misfits rule For anyone who says the misfits are sell outs. Bite Me!!! Jerry and chud are the coolest guys in the universe. Michale Graves on the other hand seems to wish he was Glenn. He's cool and all, and seems to visually "fit the part" but his voice is like a bad impression of the Mighty Glenn. The show in Danbury ruled. It was better than any Danzig show I ever saw. HEY WHATS UP NEIL!!!??? I got an audio bootleg of the show. It came out ok, I'll trade (not sell!!!) copies to other fiends who have some bootlegs from this tour. I think the Misfits are More DIY now than ever. When I talked to Jerry, He said My band (undermine) would play with them someday(we got kicked of that show) and I told him we'd make Danzig open. Does glenn actually have any other members in his band??? Its been all down hill since SAMHAIN. ------------------------------ From: ST7L3@Jetson.UH.EDU Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 00:06:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #175 Hey fiends ,I am interested in getting my hands on old misfits videos of their shows (with glenn).If anyone out there is willing to sell me a vid please e-mail me at E-mail: st7l3@jetson.uh.edu Mark do you know if the misfits have any plans on touring the southeast, in Texas? I went to misfits page but didn't find any southeast states on the tour list. The misfits are my favorite band of all time and it would be a dream come true to see them in concert. Tycho ------------------------------ From: evan obrien Subject: CT show - Wow! Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 14:07:08 -0400 (EDT) the show in ct on monday night was great! i was not too crazy about all the opening bands (4 is a lot) but the fact that there were no bouncers and a small crowd made it very comfortable, no bad vibes at all. there was even someone selling food at the place in the backyard! it was very relaxed, and that was good. the misfits came on stage at about midnight (i was there at like 6pm, whew! long evening, but worth it) and they exploded like nothing else. everything was great. they blew a fuse ten minutes into the set, and all the stage lights went off. i was on the right side of the stage for the whole show (i videotaped it) and saw plenty of great stagediving action and crowd interaction w/ the band. my friend justine got up and sang along too! at one point, backstage guys threw the roadies into the crowd and they crowd-rolled a little bit! after the show i found a neat pick of doyle's on the floor, and watched as doyle proceeded to give out picks to anyone that wanted em. i talked to jerry and said hi to mike b4 the show (i seemed to be the only one to recognize him with that headwrap on) i gotta say these guys could easily start a rock n roll public relations company wih all the cool things they do. just great, no complaints. sorry i didn't run into you, roger...but i did meet acquaintances from the city i know from other bands...if u are interestd in the video, get in touch at obrien81@matrix.newpaltz.edu oh, and on the way home, we passed doyle's girlfriend on the highway. it was kinda funny, we recognized her from seeing her outside the subzero after the show and then passed her ten minutes later...i hope the bassist's (from uranium) knee is better, that looked like it hurt. and sardonica - man! stop licking mikestands, you do not know where they have been! crazy fuckers. that's the stuff that makes it fun. later, evan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 13:30:35 -0500 From: Eric Gulbrandsen Subject: Winger .vs Trixter Hello all, Just a few questions- 1. Does anyone on this list have any videotaped material from the new shows of the Misfits-from last year and this year? Also any audio recordings of these shows? 2. Where are the tour dates further down the road at? I can't find them on the page, or if anyone knows??? I'm especially looking for a milwaukee show if they have one planned. 3. BOBBY, where are you? I tried to get ahold of you a couple of times at Post Mortem to get some info on putting on a show, and left a message Wed. If you have some spare time could you get ahold of me? Finally some info on GULLIVER (I know it's real late but oh well) Real Name: Eric Gulbrandsen Age: 20 Sex: Male I got into the Misfits by stealing a collection 1 tape from a friend of mine and I've been hooked ever since-around 1992. Also got into them by listening to Danzig and found the connection between the two later on-Her Black Wings did it for me with Danzig. Other Bands: Don't laugh Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Ministry, White Zombie, KMFDM, NIN, Circle Jerks, Judas Preist, Iron Maiden, Danzig, Samhain, Rollins Band, Type-O-Negative, Life of Agony, Slayer, Sepultura, Obituary, Mr. Bungle, Faith No More, Fight, The Doors, Rolling Stones, Tom Jones, Beach Boys, Sweet, Bay City Rollers, Devo, Talking Heads, Iggy Pop, Bee Gees, KC and The Sunshine Band, Village People, Chuck Berry, BB King, Steve Milller Band, CCR, Twisted Sister, Frank Zappa, etc................... Last Book: Unnatural Encounters, very good book on the paranormal and other "sightings" Other stuff: I'm in my second year of school at Fox Valley Technical College-Major: Marketing. I'm working on putting my band back together and get moving by June we're called "Intergalactic Noise Patrol" No demos out yet, hopefully when the lineup is full we'll record something, I'm still missing a bassist and a guitarist. Scary Huh? Later Gulliver ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Oh Shit I just shot Marvin in the face, You musta hit a bump or something!!!!!" -Vinny (Pulp Fiction) Eric Gulbrandsen egulbrandsen@foxvalley.tec.wi.us ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:10:14 -0400 From: coyote Subject: Re: a few tings This is my first post here; after this, it very well may be my last. (I may not have posted before, but I've been reading the Misfit's Bible for something one and a half years, so I'm not exactly new.) But there are some things that need to be addressed... >From: Crimson Ghost >Subject: a few tings - hehehe >That just about sums up the difference between me & you Elizabeth. Your >vision of the "original misfits" is a lineup that includes Glenzig. My >vision is a lineup that includes both Jerry & Glenn. I don't think anyone would argue with you here--EVB included. She's said so many times. The Misfits without Jerry would be no more the 'original' Misfits than they are without Glenn. >It's awful strange that your post is the first I've read that actually >rips them apart. EVERYONE else claims to have really enjoyed the shows. 'Rips them apart' is a bit strong; dissagrees with the masses, yes. I was within inches of posting my reveiw of the same show, but didn't-- why repeat everything she said? For the record: I also did not enjoy the DC show apart from Uranium 235. Mark has mentioned that it wasn't one of their better shows, that there was equipment trouble, etc, and I take this into account; others may have seen much better shows, but I can only judge them on what I personally saw/heard. HOWever, that still leaves a lot of things I found lacking--some of this is undoubtably due to Michale's relative inexperience, and will hopefully improve in time-- the bits with the SuperSoaker were great, they showed originality and his own personality--but by large the effect (for me, and EVB) was that he's been far too 'programmed' to recreate Glenn, rather than come up with his own stage persona. He's young, I assume if they hang together and try to grow beyond the 'amazing recreation of 1983' stage, he'll become himself. No problem. The thing I really found disturbing (and surprising) was their mysterious lack of stage presence--I found myself watching the nutballs in the audience far more than I was focused on the band. Maybe I've been spoiled by more charismatic bands with better thought out stage shows, but for the most part, bands that just stand there and play fast don't glue my eyes to them, no matter how cool they look. Michale tried, and I give him all the credit in the world, but (IMO) he just wasn't that visually riviting, and, besides, about a third of the time you couldn't hear him at all over Jerry's bass. We weren't the only ones not having a good time--from where we we sitting (in the balcony) I could see most of the floor, and once past the pit there were many folks with crossed arms and sour expressions, and I heard not a few boos during the night... I'm guessing quite a few people also apparently left during the show--by the time the 'Fits' set was over most of the balcony (formerly fairly full) was empty, and there were fewer people on the actual floor, too... >Things change, bands evolve, Glenn has, the Misfits will. I can only hope to >see the day when I can laugh in your petty face, until that day I will be >happy with the knowledge that I was right all along. Right about what? That the Misfits '96 are the greatest? I don't think so, not at the moment, at least. They could become that, possibly, but I don't think they are now. I certainly hope they evolve and change, cos they're going to need to to survive in the music biz as something other than Jerry's hobby or a novelty act (not my opinion so much as how I'm afraid others are going to see them). The day's going to come when a real magazine sends a reviewer to one of the shows, or they're playing to an unconverted/hostile audience, or any number of things that are going to bring them into a sharp collision with reality. Frankly, I think that if they go on tour with Anthrax, many of the Anthrax fans will treat them much the same way the I hear the Type O fans did; and that's not good. >I don't consider you a Misfit's fan, I consider you a Danzig fan. How can >you possibly criticize them without bias?? I get the impression from your >post that you're pissed that they actually sounded good, it disappointed you >that they didn't fail. No, read again. Both of us went hoping to like them, willing to give 'em all the slack in the world. And, guess what? --they weren't as bad as we'd been prepared for them to be from the tapes we'd heard. That still leaves a lot of room between 'not as bad as we were afraid of' ("Kryst"), and actually sounded good'. They didn't. Many of the songs were unrecognizable until halfway through; there were many I didn't even realize they'd played until I asked others if they had after the show. And, believe me, it's not that I'm unfamiliar with this material, or don't know what the songs sound like live--in between tapes of old Misfits shows and seeing/hearing the Undead play several 'Fits' songs in concert, I'd like to think I've got a pretty good idea of how various tunes should go.. As for the show besides the music, it was very high energy due to the audience's excitment, and lots of people *were* having a great time; I'm assuming they came in with different expectations than I did--I came to listen/watch, and judge them on their own merits, as I do any other band I go see for the first time. I (and EVB) are not an easy audience--we've both seen a lot of bands over the years, and it takes something pretty special for us to give it two thumbs up. As for not being a Misfits fan--that's pretty laughable. Do you think that to be a Misfits fan you MUST like what they're doing now? I know plenty of fans of x band who don't like x's current work--this doesn't make them not fans.. Do let me emphasise here--neither one of us is giving up on the current band; we both plan on seeing them again, preferably a bit into the future, when they've had a chance to grow and write more new songs, and aren't so reliant on the back catalog. I don't think either one of us has ever judged a band by one show--it's just not fair to. Everyone can (and does) have off nights; by my theory, DC was one of them. >What I really want to know is: how you're gonna get all that shit off your >nose if Glenn ever stops in mid-stride? *sigh*. Here's where you start to get out of line, and truly rude and personal...there's no need for this sort of thing. > >>For me the high point of the evening came early - I REALLY enjoyed the first >>opening band Uranium 235! Definitely influenced by NIN but certainly have >>their own style. Picked up a copy of their demo tape & managed to find 3 >>of the 5 members and have them autograph it for me. > >The true confessions of a mindless groupie. To me you really represent >everything that sucks about music. I go to a record store to buy a rare hunk >of vinyl, only to be told that it will cost me $50! Why is that vintage >vinyl so expensive? Because fucking collectors drivin the price through the >roof. Excuse me? What the fuck has this to do with anything? She posted a less than glowing show review, and you head off into an all out personal attack? Really--I expected better of you. (In fact, we were wondering just the other day what you had thought of whatever show(s) you'd been to, as someone who's opinion merited some respect in these quarters). This mudslinging was totally uncalled for; for one thing, what the hell are you accusing her of--driving the prices of rare vinyl up all by herself? And the mindless groupie bit...again, why? Because she asked U235 for autographs? What about everyone else here who's rattled on about getting the Misfits to sign records/drumsticks/name it--are they mindless groupies too? Or is it because she's female? Or, did she just have the wrong band sign stuff--if it's the 'Fits it's cool, but let not anyone else sign a lowly demo tape? It's fine if you don't 'do' autographs, to each his own. But a lot of us use that sort of opportunity to tell the band we appreciate the show they just played. Guess what, mindless acceptance of something as good just because it has the right name on it represents much of what _I_ think sucks about music. (And, don't take this as an opportunity to go off insisting that in EVB's eyes anything Glenzig has done is good and perfect; ask her about songs like "Girl", or (ghu help us) "Dirty Black Summer", or the Danzig shows she's _walked_out_on_ because, yes, they were bad that night. Etc, etc. Everybody sucks sometimes. No band is perfect.) > >Music was made to be played and enjoyed, not mindlessly collected. Take out >your fucking Cough/Cool and listen to for a change, instead of just >worshipping that stupid smirk Glenn has on the Jacket. Pleassssse... Anyone who thinks she doesn't play her Misfits records just ask our third roommate who doesn't like the Misfits; She'll tell you she hears them quite enough, thank you. For that matter, what about all the people she's dubbed those rare records for over the years? The compilation tape Brent dubs for list members originates from her collection--how did this music get onto these tapes if she didn't play the records? Talk sense. And--worshipping implies slavish devotion; this is just simply not the case. Glenn's made his fair share (and over) of mistakes, and I really don't think you'd hear EVB denying it, I certainly haven't heard her do so in many many years of discussion. I have friends I respect, too, and try to stick up for when I feel they're being maligned, but that doesn't mean I'm blind to their faults, or have them on a pedestal or worship them, or something. > >May the insuing flames consume me.....As long as they are directed to the >bible. Fuck you in advance if you don't like it, it's just my fucking opinion. Actually, in points you've come perilously close to slander. An opinion would be saying 'I think you're wrong, the show rocked', or whatever. Personal, unfounded attacks on someone in a public medium is a whole 'nother can of worms. --coyote-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:55:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Ed Sulzbach Subject: Sardonica Why's everybody bashing on Sardonica? Yeah, they aren't as good as the Misfits but as far as opening bands go, I thought they were damned good. Most bands have total shit losers open for them. I just thought Sardonica was pretty good. And aside from wanting to look like Nine Inch Nails, Uranium 235 wasn't all that bad either. ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 23:57:36 -0400 Subject: Hmmm... CG: Your personal attack on EVB was low, even for you. I believe that she--like you, me, or anyone else on this list--is perfectly entitled to express her opinions, whether you like them or not. You seem to have a problem with folks who don't agree with you. I think that YOU need to lighten up just a tad with YOUR hero-worship. I don't think that you have any clue as to how you come across. EVB a "mindless groupie?" um, I think not. I'm expecting that your response to this will be either an irrational, invective-laden piece of drivel or a private "hate mail." I'm hopeful that you'll actually think about what I've said, and that you'll realize how out of line you were. PDH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 00:16:50 -0500 From: fennellw@bc.edu Subject: anthrax &misfits is this tour info reliaable or is it bullshit? ------------------------------ From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 21:45:53 +0100 Subject: Saber Inc. Anyone had trouble with their orders for the models that were advertised in the Fiend Club package? I sent off for a Crimson Ghost around the end of February, but I've still not got anything. I enclosed extra for airmail postage, so they'd better not've been cheapskates and sent it surface. I sent off for the posters weeks after the model, and they arrived ages ago. Has anyone received their orders? Not received their orders? Does anyone care?! ------------------------------ From: "Roger Holmes" Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:40:47 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #175 I didn't have time to finish my post last time, so Ill just wrap it up now. I just want to say that the three shows were the best of my life. All the guys in the band posed for pics with us and they were really cool about letting us watch them rehearse. Michale has a really great voice. Anybody who says he can't sing obviously hasn't heard what I heard (he sang "theme for a jackal" by himself in rehearsal). And I think that they did a cool job on the static age stuff. Especially "Static Age" and "Some Kinda Hate". Everyone was singing along and having a blast. The Sub Zero show was the best. Everyone sang along to almost all the songs and Michale was cool with letting people sing with him (except the guy who he beat). 138 was the coolest thing I have ever seen. We bugged the shit out of all the guys in the band for pics and autographs and shit, and they were all really cool. We told them durring the RI show that we were from Canada (13 hour drive but worth it) and after watching them rehearse the boston show, the dedicated violet world to us. Jerry yelled something like "This one's for the Canadians" or something like that. And to the guys that said Jerry was fat and Michale was a billy idol wanna be, maybe you shouldn't have came, because obvioulsy you are are stunned or something. And just because Michale was crawling along the pipe on the ceiling does not make him a pearl jam wanna be. That is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. He was just rocking out. He looked like he was having a blast. Well, that's it. If you get a chance to get the Sub Zero video I highly recomend it. It was trully a great show. Later Roger Holmes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 00:05:24 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Misfits, Manimals, and news hey fiends, Well sorry this is late but better late then never. To Robert Brustman--- > As someone else said, Jerry Only does seem to really be enjoying himself, >and it's fun to watch him. Doyle is moving around a bit (I was standing >in front of Jerry, but Doyle came over to our side 3-4 times). Michale >is amazing! Glenn who? That was me. I said it about the Ziggys show on april 30th. And I will repeat it at the May 3rd show at the stone pont in NJ. As a matter of fact I gave some pictures to Mark, and one has Jerry with a very big smile on his face. Also I got some shots of Jerry signing stuff for people, and all with a very big smile. I dont know about evryone else but this makes me feel pretty good. I mean this tour and this band means allot to me and to see them appreaciate us as much as we do them, well it sort of legitamizes the whole thing. And your right Glenn who? That is the thing that EVB and other people needs to understand Glenn Danzig is now the singer for the band Danzig, and they are great, but Michale Graves is the singer for the Misfits, and they are great. What did you people have in mind? All of a sudden Glenn would burst out from back stage and take michales place? The music is incredible, the Misfits are moving foward, and so is Glenn. Now we get the best of both worlds. To David P. Spampinato Doyle is not fat! He is in the best shape. I noticed a little chub on Jerry, but one could only wish to look as good as those two do at their age. To Bobby Steele hey bobby you forgot to include the destroy comp. in my order from postmortem! To Who ever posted that the singer from both world s was dogging on Jerry and Doyle to move on: he wasnt trashing them. I was at that show, and the crowd was calling out for him to do old Cro-Mags songs(I dont know his name but he was the singer for the Cro-Mags) and much like how Glenn wants to move foward he also does. Well he just said that those songs are in the past and you gotta live in the future. Also he said that he was old enough to be some of the people in the crowds grandfather, and he did not point that in the direction of Jerry and Doyle. To all fiends: Order the manimals record from Mark, I did and it is great! The more I listen to it the more I like it. So take my word for it, it is worth it. And dont just give one spin and blow it off cuz it is much more of a deeper listen. Also so you should just get it out of curiosity, these guys opened for the Misfits and Jerry wants to cover one of their songs. Also Larry the Wolf bares a scary resemblance to Doyle. and to all a good night... D-Rod (hey Mark I was late are you dry yet?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 23:40:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Quicklime Girl Subject: happy birthday Sid! may 10 John Simon Ritchie's B-day! he woulda been 39! wouldnt that be a hoot! Well fiends all i have to say today is GET your BIRTHDAYS IN TO ME OR TES777 if you want to be in the 1997 calendar. Please, post something too. If this is going to be the "fucking elitists with computers club" right Wes? we need to participate. It is good to see the arguments that would crap up the bible being held on the Op Man. if you want to flout your political views, do it there. unless of course it is misfits related! all of you who wroteme to attempt to flame me--the unflameable dream--for disliking Henry Garfield take it up either personally with me or on the Op Man like Dave Asselin did. Smart cookie, Dave. A word about the calendar: i am preparing it for the Misfits Bible. It will be for next year and i probably will have to ask for postage but i hope to pretty much give them away, or give them to Mark to give away if he is free to do it. It will include all dates pertinent to the Misfits and related bands, all of them;birthdays, significant events like the John Lennon Shoe Decoration Day (formerly known as Independence Day) and the like. It will be fun. It will not be punk as fuck. Horror movie people will be included. Abe Vigoda will be included. If any of you have any suggestions, I am willing to listen.(keep em clean, puh-lease!) Thank you to all who have responded--Richard Duran, Jolanta, CG, and Tammy S of course! and Keith 138. The few, the proud, the Fiends! when the New Misfits are done touring, I will continue to post any funny stories i can exhume from my distorted brain. Hi, EVB! and oh yeah--F---HENRY! love, patricia homewrecker to the stars ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 00:35:51 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Where are all the Birthdays... Well fiends time is slipping through the skull and most of you will be packing it in for the summer. You need to send in your Birthdays if you want to be part of that calendar. So make an effort before you go. Pat hopes to have this thing complete so it goes out on Halloween. Nice little gifty for all you ghoulies. SO MOVE YOUR ASS OFF TO A COMPUTER AND E-MAIL YOUR B-DAYS IN IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE CALENDAR, GOT IT? GOOD! I hope all of you have a good summer that includes getting to see the fits live and see you come fall! TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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TORONTO SHOW 138 sighting Cleveland Just another day in the neighborhood... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:00:05 -0400 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: Been called worse, I guess... To Paul Holstein (and those who share his opinion)... Number one, I thought I said to address any objections for the price hike on the video to me personally. But since you skipped right over that, I may as well address your post in the Bible as well. F*ck - I can't believe I'm actually taking the time to address your post - you must be new to this list or something. Like I tell every other newbie - do your damn homework before you attack someone!!! In other words, read back issues of the bible on Mark's page! Maybe THEN you would have all of the answers to your questions because it is obvious you don't know who the hell I am. Paul, it boils down to this. Bootleggers by my definition are people just out to make a quick buck by selling cheap quality crap at inflated prices. They have no ties to the band and could really give a shit about the band. READ THE BACK ISSUES, PAUL - in the past I have made NOTHING off of these tapes. And yes, I DID give people the option of sending blank tapes and stamps, but soon found it easier to just buy the tapes myself and not have to worry about who's tape was who's and who's stamps were who's. When you're dubbing hundreds of tapes, things tend to get mixed up... ANd gee, how could I make profits at $6.00 when the video tape costs $3.00 (plus tax), Two-day priority is $3.00, the sleeve costs $0.10, and the paint markers used to label the tapes cost $3.00 a piece? Hmmm...wouldn't it look like I was taking a loss??? This fucking makes me sick - a guy (me) goes all out of his way to make the HIGHEST QUALITY footage and audio available to people he's never seen just because they subscribe to a list...only to get questioned for his motives. THAT'S where I differ from the tubby piece of shit sitting behind his convention table selling cheap dubs of my tapes or sending in his ads to MRR for these tapes - my MOTIVES. Got that Paul? Furthermore Paul, if you actually READ this list, you would KNOW my ties to the band and that according to Jerry, I'm doing a great service for true Misfits fans by making this rare stuff available for virtually nothing but cost. Jerry and the band READ THIS LIST - if I was the same kind of "asshole bootlegger" that I've dissed so hard, why in the world would I advertise right under their noses??? Wouldn't I be sticking the gun in my mouth and asking them to pull the trigger? In case you didn't know, Jerry is notorious for buying up every bootleg he finds in the open market, simply because he doesn't want that crap out there. Don't you think he would have shut me down by now if I were doing something shady in his eyes? Well, all I know is that he thanked me personally for doing my part in keeping the legacy both alive and available to true fiends. Prior to Collection II and the box set, the tape that EVB and I put together was THE BEST SOURCE for all of the rare and expensive Misfits material. God, I'm HOPING you are new to this list because right now I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and restraining from tearing you a new asshole. So now the video costs four bucks more. Oooh - looks my brother can head to Jamaica now with all that profit, right?!? Give me a fucking break - the kid is probably going to use that four bucks on padded mailers, clear package tape, gas to the post office, and maybe even snacks, Slurpees, and Sega rentals just so he'll have something to do while dubbing tapes FOR PEOPLE HE HASN'T EVEN MET!!!! Did I mention how sick this is making me??? Mark, my brother, as many of you know also handles the mailing list and mail order for Smackerals of Hunny. HE'S NOT EVEN IN THE BAND!! And as many of you know from ordering last summer's EP, Mark is famous for throwing in all sorts of extra stuff into the packages just because he feels like it. Why don't you ask some of the people who have written in and/or ordered stuff from SoH? Mark ALWAYS throws in stickers and promos just because that's the kind of kid he is. He even gave one guy a shirt just because he said he skipped work and drove 200 miles to see us. Again, Mark never even met the guy... Listen, I realize that your original post wasn't intended to be THAT harsh and that I may be overreacting. Let me just finish by saying that I understand your concerns and that I feel your accusations WOULD have some validity if you had no prior knowledge to the situation. But it's when you don't do your homework that you get nipped in the ass, Paul. So again, I stress to every new person on this list, please read the back issues before pointing any fingers. There are some old dinosaurs on this list like myself who get touchy when someone points a finger without knowing what they're pointing at. No hard feelings, Paul, I just hope you understand everything now (in regards to the video). Thank You - Brent Eyestone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:27:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Ed Sulzbach Subject: Glenn vs Misfits I see the age old argument has started again. I like Misfits and their music. I like Glenn's music. I don't like Glenn. To quote Glenn at the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby last year "I'm gonna crack open your fucking heads and squeeze out your brains, then I'm gonna rip your worthless little shit bodies into little pieces." Etc... . This was said to me and three of my friends because we got ahold of one of Mr Anzelone's high school year book pictures and made a poster out of it. We wrote "Glenn Anzelone" in big letters and showed at the concert. Glenn caught a view and freaked. Gimme a fucking break! It was just a joke. You should've seen it. Right in the middle of a song he stopped singing and tried jumping off the stage. The bouncers grabbed him and threw him back up. He then proceeded to scream and yell at us and threaten to kill us. He even asked us to come back stage so he could kill us in a more private area I guess. I guess he didn't want all his new trendy fans to see the way he once looked and what his real name was. Anyway, I forgot what my point was and this porbably means nothing. Glenn is a great musician. I love his music from all of his different projects and I'll continue to buy whatever he puts out. However, he's just one of the biggest cocks I've ever seen. And that wasn't the only encounter I had with him. Maybe some other time I'll detail them. The Misfits are great too. I heard the new songs and they were great. They didn't sound like metal, they sounded like the Misfits. I've been listening to the Misfits since I was 11. I'm now 20. Glenn is good as a musician and the Misfits are also good. We shouldn't get in fights amongst ourselves over whether or not it was Jerry who fucked Glenn or Glenn who fucked over the rest of the world or which one resembles the largest embodiment of the male genitalia. It all happened so long ago and has been gone over so many times it's just really boring. I mean if there is a real need to argue over cocksuckers in the music industry let's talk about the lead singer of Rage Against the Machine or Dave Mustaine or blah blah blah blah whatever. So in short: Can't we all just get along? ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 19:07:28 -0400 Subject: RECORD AUCTION hello people , my pal Shone has some stuff for auction. Here's the list : MISFITS: Evilive- PL1019 orange label, unlimited release, black Halloween- PL1017 w/ lyric sheet, black 3 Hits from Hell- PL1013 orange label, large hole, black Who Killed Marilyn?- PL1015 black Earth AD- PL-02 black Evilive- German release, black Wolfsblood (Earth AD songs)- German release, color covers, black SAMHAIN: Unholy Passion- tan cover, black DANZIG: ThrallDemonSweatLive- picture disc ( front-thrall cover, back-glenn) Mother- 12" single, purple vinyl Mother- 12" single, Giger skull shaped picture disc Send all bids to Keith138@ aol.com . Please make subject title "shone's record auction". The auction will last until JULY 31, 1996. Any bids after this date will be void. An update will can be obtained upon request.Winners will be notified by e-mail within a week of July 31. Payment and final arrangements will discussed with winners after the auction is concluded. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 20:26:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Strom Subject: Misfits Sighting The other day I was watching T.V. and my girlfiend made me watch a STUPID movie. "Too Wong Foo,....". It sucked. But one of the guys in the town where the drag queens got stranded was wearing a old, faded, Crimson Ghost tie-dyed T-shirt. Also, I caught the X-files last week with the sticker on the van. Anybody out there with vids. or audio tapes of any of the new shows e-mail me and I will buy. I missed the Prov. show and I've been kicking myself in the ass over it. All for now MATT ------------------------------ From: The Mocellas Subject: thenew'fits Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 08:38:58 -0400 i'm sorry, but the misfits ARE NOT "metalizing" in their old, or new stuff. i saw them in philly and they kicked ass.....i mean it was without doubt the coolest show i have ever seen. and PUNK. it was almost eerie how much they sounded like the old 'fits, and graves is a badass. no fear, the misfits are still the coolest band on earth. -ratboy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 11:52:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Bone Machine Hello all, This is my first post and thought some might be interested in the midwestern dates of the Misfits tour with Anthrax. These are only a few that I found through the Ticketmaster site-- June2 Louisville, KY @ THe Brewery Anthrax/Misfits June3 Indianapolis, IN @Murat Theater Egyptian Room Misfits only, I think June4 Cincinnati @ Bogarts Anthrax/Misfits ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 14:23:49 -0400 Subject: In Defense of EVB I was going to send in my defense of EVB last issue but I've been sick as a dog (by the way, how many of you fiends who went to the Stone Pony show got sick a day or so after?). I agree with Coyote's defense of EVB. EVB is not a mindless follower of Glenn. Yes, she likes his work, a LOT in fact, she admires him, and has a large collection of what he's done, from Misfits records to Verotik comics, but she is not a groupie. To me, a groupie is someone who doesn't really love the band, the music, the shows, etc., but love the stardom. They love the celebrity. EVB doesn't love everything Glenn does simply because its his. She takes it on a case by case basis. Just because it happens to be that she likes the majority of his work doesn't mean she's a zombie and loves everything he puts out. And about her being part of the reason why Misfits records go for a small fortune, that's ridiculous simply because it's her OWN collection. She's not a record dealer. She buys these things and keeps them for herself. She's not going out and selling them for large sums of money. So what if she got a demo signed by U235? She bought the tape and she's going to keep it. If you want to look for the people responsible for the prices of rare vinyl, collectibles, etc., look to the record dealers. They'll get a poster signed by a band they don't even like and then turn around and sell it to a fan for a bundle. Just ask anyone who's ever dealt with "Louie the Musicman" or any other unscrupulous dealer out there. Go to any collectable show. I have a lot of stuff that I've had signed by Jerry and Doyle over the past two years or so. Does that make me a groupie? Does that make me responsible for a kid paying $100 for a "Halloween" 7". If you're logical, the answer is no. Most fans get a record or whatever signed because it personalizes it. It marks their encounter with someone they respect or admire, just as I respect and admire Jerry Only, Danzig, or anyone else I've gotten autographs from. It's the people who get an autograph and then turn around and try to sell it for a ridiculous amount of money that are the problem It's my collection and I wouldn't sell any part of it because it's special to me. Just as EVB's is to her. I don't know what more can be said. I usually agree with what you say but you're way off with your attack on EVB. Maybe you should switch to decaf CG ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 00:45:54 -0400 From: Bobby Steele <104600.2577@compuserve.com> Subject: Misfits Bible, #175 Chris, I can't say if GG Allin was a "big act", since I never went to any of his shows, but I know several people that were friends with him - people that kept in touch while he was in jail, and even visited him regularly. They all insist the G.G. was a really nice guy. I even spoke to the head of PERFORMANCE records once, and he said the same thing. Offstage ,he was a totally different person. It doesn't mean that he was a fake or anything. A lot of performers are one person on stage - and a totally different off. >Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 16:00:43 -0400 (EDT) >From: Qayin Downs >Subject: Stone pony show >to Bobby Steele: Saw Times Square play at cbgb's about a month or so ago. >You were damn good, and I was wondering if you were playing in Nj or NYC >anytime soon. A guy I know says that C.J. Ramone was there too, and said >that he saw your band & liked ya. We'll be playing this coming Saturday, MAY 18 , at THE RED ROOM - at the MARKET CAFE; 496 NINTH AVE. (38th 7 39th STs) NYC. It's a real small place, so it should be a cool night. CHRIMSON GHOST WROTE: >Bobby also brings up a very good point going back to the Jerry doing >interviews thread: (Bobby, I respect you and consider you a friend but I >feel the need to bring you down a few pegs - don't take offense at this) >>I've been holding back on my sarcasm ,because most people don't get it. >>It's gotten me in a lot of trouble over the years, so now I save it for >>gigs and where people can see my face, and hopefully see that I'm just >>bustin' their balls. >Hate to use your own words against you Bobby, but you know as well as I do >how Jerry talks. Jerry talks like that he always has, he always will. You >know goddamn well that Jerry talks with alot of hand movements, laughs and >winks. As a matter of fact that wink is classic Jerry punctuation. At least >he's saying it in public. You are the one going behind his back saying shit >and starting controversy, get over it. The moral of the story is "Don't >believe everything you hear." CG, How about all those comments Jerry made about me in HIS INTERVIEWS ? How about him accusing ME of stealing THE UNDEAD name from him ? OR saying that I was, basically, fired for being late and fucked up. We shouldn't forget TEENAGERS FROM MARS on those bootlegs. I asked Jerry about that a few years ago. He denied it. Sure I'm starting controversy. What's wrong with that? Do you know what Jerry and Rocky have said in response to my questions about THOSE comments? They said the interviewers made that up. Some of those interviewers think that Jerry's their friend, but he's willing to throw them to the wolves when the possibility of a slander lawsuit comes around. I don't deny what I say about him. I just try to make sure I can back up what I'm saying with copies of the interviews, and tapes or bootlegs. >>I'm beginning to notice a pattern in his behavior, and that includes >>trashing anyone who knows the REAL jerry, so as to discredit anything they >>might say about him. Kinda the way members of the MAFIA respond about their >>accusers when they're getting cornered. >I can't believe you actually said that, that has gotta be the piss poorest >analogy I've heard in my life. Hey. I never said I was Shakespeare. Did I? Let me try to put it another way. Several people that have met Jerry in recent years have described him as sounding like a USED CAR SALESMAN. >Every time you open your mouth you stick your foot in it. Are you that >pissed off that the band literally hates you? Bobby, I value your input on >this list and actually like you as a person but when you continuously bad >mouth people because of bitterness it really makes your true colors show >through. I don't beleive I've stuck my foot in my mouth at all. I don't care how much the band hates me. All I care about is the possible embezzlement of money that rightfully belongs to me and Joey Image. If someone was holding out on money, that was rightfully yours, and the equivalent of more money than you've made in the previous ten-years of your life; I think you'd be bitter too. I think the only true colors that have been shown here - are that I am not the asshole that other MISFITS have tried to make me appear to be, and that Jerry just MAY NOT be the great, wonderful guy that virtual strangers think he is. You haven't walked in my shoes. Don't try to criticize what you don't understand. You can question my facts -and I'll show you the interview/tape/bootleg that I got my information from. But, until you've had to face nearly two-decades of character assassination from people that you've done nothing but help, you can't understand what's going on in my ~~~~~ >From: Dave Asselin >Subject: Re: My review of the Cambridge, MA show >As an aside: I thought CG's firebombing of EVB was *way* out of line-- it >was the equivalent of throwing a chair through a window to let in a >breeze. Now THAT'S A GOOD ANALOGY!!! ~~~~~ >Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 11:13:16 -0500 (CDT) >From: David Arthur Aufox >Subject: nothing much >..... i know people have called the new lin up a farse and ... > kryst the conquorer was pathetic... why are the misfits trying to > become that band, musically and by the way they >tour? i don't mean this with disrespect, but did jerry and doyle just >fight to get the name so they could restart kryst and be allowed to play >old misfits tunes? the misfits were a punk band... regardless of what >they say... to me if they become a metal band they will no longer be the >misfits.... . Dave, I think you got it backwards. THE MISFITS are not trying to become Kryst T.C. I beleive that, after denouncing the MISFITS... along with the failure of KRYST, Jerry needed a way to make money . He accused me and Glenn of just cashing in on THE MISFITS name. But who's really cashing in? Another point I might be able to clear up: there's been a constant dispute as to whether the FITs were a PUNK or METAL band. I advertised myself as a guitarist in search of a PUNK BAND. Glenn called ME. Even though I attributed a lot of my guitar influences as METAL (Hendrix, Page, Blackmore), I was not allowed to mention these influences. Judge for yourself. >.... this whole metalization of the misfits bothers me.... i have >a lot of respect for booby steele for one reason..... regardless fo what >has happened to him in life and with others.... he has never comprimised >his musical beliefs..... to me he is an example for what a true punk is, >he stands up for what he beleives, and he never crossed over depsite how >popular metal was, and he has also tried his best to remain in the >undead, and times square, not the booby steele experience.... something >he could have done a long time ago. it is sad if thsoe metal rumors of >the misfits are tru.... becuase then booby will be the last punk of the >misfits, while the others have shed their punk past and embraced >metal.... very very sad... The name's BOBBY. I know I have somewhat of an obsession with women's breasts, but I haven't extended it into my name. he he he. Seriously, thanks for this show of support. I'm really hoping to get out on the road this year I'm still looking for musicians. ARE THERE ANY DRUMMERS LIVING IN NEW YORK OUT THERE- WHO WANT TO BE IN A BAND LIKE THE UNDEAD? EMAIL ME. >If Jerry wants to make his new band a METAL band; it's his right. >From what I've read >here, that's what it is. He just shouldn't deny that THE MISFITS were a >PUNK band. ~~~~~ >From: kriney@uhavax.hartford.edu >Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 16:01:16 EDT >Subject: gotta go >hey did you all read that Bobby steel liked my bands demo, well isn't >that reason enough for you to order it from me??? Its only 2 bux! to >adam kriney >36 jackson street #2 >long branch, nj 07740 >check out our homepage at www.moonsite.com/lipmonger/ Talk about shameless self-promotion... GO FOR IT ADAM! You can't go wrong for 2 BUX Let me know if you play New York. EMAIL ME with your summer contact info. If I get to recommend opening bands at any gigs, I'd like to put in a good word for you. (Now where's that hundred bux you promised...ooops!) ~~~~~ >Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 15:32:58 -0400 (EDT) >From: Frank Fama >Subject: Misfits show >I AM BRETT. NOT FRANK. >> From: Valgamon >> And think about it... if Danzig was singing, would the price the same? >> they be playing stadiums instead? Would the members all be in such good >> spirits? NO. >I assume this is some sort of backhanded comment to indicate that Glenn >is greedy or something. Consider that Glenn has a record company and >managers to pay, as well as the club they're playing in. Not to mention the road crew and bodyguards. I'll bet he winds up with only about 10% of the pay after everyone gets their cut. The bulk of what an artist makes is derived from songwriter royalties. On a per-song basis; it's as much as the artist gets. ~~~~~ >From: Keith138@aol.com >Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 22:36:11 -0400 >Subject: CG's comments about collectors... > Do you go into Wal-Mart and expect to find a Van Gogh original for $15 ?! >NO! Do you go to Stan's Previously Owned Vehicles and pay $300 for a cherry '>73 Trans Am w/a 455 Super Duty?! NO!! The reason you pay $50 for that rare >vinyl is cuz it's RARE! A marbled Who Killed Marilyn is a piece of rare art , >of course it should be valued more than a Thriller LP , get it?! It's all >supply and demand. I always look at it this way: The people who bought those records for $3.00 when they first came out are being rewarded for supporting the artist when they were starting out. It's the closest thing to buying stock in the band. As far as the flame on EVB for buying records/tapes, and having the band autograph it: I do this also. If I see a band that I like; I'll get their record and try to have as many members as possible autograph it. ~~~~~ >Subject: something cool. >Date: Wed, 8 May 96 22:37:30 EDT >From: Blood Feast >you know on the cover of Evilive how at the top of the three >coffins the crimson ghost has a pair of outstretched, skeletal >claws? Well I found out where they're from. Its from the poster >of a movie called "The Embalmer". Actually, it's from a poster for THE UNDEAD - the film that I got the name from. ~~~~~ >Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 13:30:35 -0500 >From: Eric Gulbrandsen >Subject: Winger .vs Trixter >Hello all, >Just a few questions- >3. BOBBY, where are you? I tried to get ahold of you a couple of >at Post Mortem to get some info on putting on a show, and left a message >Wed. If you have some spare time could you get ahold of me? Eric, I got your message on Friday. I don't check that phone everyday. I tried to call you back, and left you a message. EMAIL ME. I respond faster. I gotta keep my long-distance calls to a minimum since I owe MCI around $300.00 right now. ~~~~~ >Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 00:05:24 -0400 (EDT) >From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) >Subject: Misfits, Manimals, and news >To Bobby Steele >hey bobby you forgot to include the destroy comp. in my order from >postmortem! Sorry. I guess I've been a little pre-occupied lately. Sent two DAWN CD's to someone else. It'll go out next week. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 15:08:19 -0400 From: She Subject: Stuff > From: David Arthur Aufox > band or on stage, it is becuase you listen to metal, and don't go to the > right places, becaus ethey refuse to play that crap. There's no reason for you or anybody to call a certain kind of music crap. Who cares if you don't like it? I bet some of your pals in Illinois hate punk. Do they tell you it's crap? Do you like to hear that? > that brings me to another point.... i am really sorry to hear that the > misfits are metalizing themselves, and the older material, and to futher > add injury to insult to injury they might tour with anthrax.... that is > pathetic..... i know people have called the new lin up a farse and > claimed that the band is really dead. i support the band as they are now. Metalizing? You should actually see the band before you make this kind of statement. In the 13 years since The Misfits last toured, Jerry and Doyle have changed their playing style a little bit. This isn't necessarily what I would call metalizing, and you shouldn't call it that until you actually HEAR them. What did you think of the Earth AD stuff? Imagine the Static Age stuff being played the way Earth AD was recorded... would you consider that metalizing? That's about what it sounds like. Why does it matter who The Misfits tour with? Perhaps the crowd will be different, but just keep in mind that The Misfits seek to expose others to their music, just as anyone from Glenn Danzig to Adam Kriney does. Also, being from the same area of the country (NY/NJ) as the guys from Anthrax are, they've become friends. The Misfits, unlike some people, are open-minded enough to support or tolerate their friends even if they play different styles of music. Imagine that! > are the misfits trying to become that band, musically and by the way they > tour? i don't mean this with disrespect, but did jerry and doyle just > fight to get the name so they could restart kryst and be allowed to play > old misfits tunes? the misfits were a punk band... regardless of what > they say... to me if they become a metal band they will no longer be the > misfits.... music is about music.... not athetics, or vaules.... i have > people definition of punk and these people really don't know much about The Misfits don't sound much like Kryst The Conqueror. Having heard both bands and having seen The Misfits perform several times on this tour, I can say this. This is my opinion of course. > the misfit sdo will be the misfits and stuff like that (if he cares > enough to read this) i am going to ehck out the misfits either in detroit > or when they come to chicago... but i hope that they will stay true to > their roots and remain a ounk band rather than a washed up metalized > band. i guess i would also like to see the band help out the national scene > as well as the smaller punk secnes that helped them. im like the idea of > playing small places... they shold also try and keep ticket prices down > as well.... this whole metalization of the misfits bothers me.... i have If I care enough to read your post? I read every post several times. I read them occasionally as they come in (as I did with yours), later when I send the Bible out (to check for mail errors) and again before responding. I think that comment was entirely unnecessary and I'm not sure why you made it. That doesn't matter... How closely have you read my posts? Did you realize we have the same birthday? I'm glad you're going to check out The Misfits and I think that for the most part you will be pleased. I also think that The Misfits will continue to play in small places. > has happened to him in life and with others.... he has never comprimised > his musical beliefs..... to me he is an example for what a true punk is, > he stands up for what he beleives, and he never crossed over depsite how > popular metal was, and he has also tried his best to remain in the > undead, and times square, not the booby steele experience.... something > he could have done a long time ago. it is sad if thsoe metal rumors of > the misfits are tru.... becuase then booby will be the last punk of the > misfits, while the others have shed their punk past and embraced > metal.... very very sad... Well... nice try there. Jerry and Doyle never compromised their musical beliefs either. I think you're mistaking musical beliefs with political labelling. Jerry and Doyle as well as just about all The Misfits have a wide variety of interests. What they write and how they play depends on what they like. If I write 'punk' music in the morning and 'metal' in the evening, have I compromised my musical beliefs by the end of the day? How about if I write a little of everything? Would you consider "Cough/Cool" "Come Back" "American Nightmare" "20 Eyes" and "Green Hell" all the same type of music? It's all based on interpretation. As for the last punk of The Misfits... do you not count Arthur Googy and his post-Misfits band Antidote, or are you just writing that because you know Bobby is reading? >From Tycho > Mark do you know if the misfits have any plans on touring the southeast, in > Texas? I went to misfits page but didn't find any southeast states on the As I've said before, I don't know any more than what I have on the page. I'm working to keep up with the tour plans as they develop, but it's hard when they're on the road. > From: Eric Gulbrandsen > Subject: Winger .vs Trixter > > 2. Where are the tour dates further down the road at? I can't find > them on the page, or if anyone knows??? I'm especially looking for a > milwaukee show if they have one planned. Obviously I'll have them when they're available. That's the important part - availibility. The next block of the tour is in the confirmation stages... some tickets are already on sale, but I haven't gotten any official word yet. > From: fennellw@bc.edu > Subject: anthrax &misfits > > is this tour info reliaable or is it bullshit? It is almost 100% reliable. > From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk > Subject: Saber Inc. > > Anyone had trouble with their orders for the models that were advertised in > the Fiend Club package? > I sent off for a Crimson Ghost around the end of February, but I've still > not got anything. I enclosed extra for airmail postage, so they'd better > not've been cheapskates and sent it surface. I sent off for the posters > weeks after the model, and they arrived ages ago. Has anyone received their > orders? Not received their orders? Does anyone care?! The posters are a lot easier to send out and are a lot more available. There are several explanations: 1) The band has been constantly touring and the model man (Rocky) has been with them. 2) The posters are pre-packaged and can be mailed out easily as the orders come in. The same is not necessarily true for the models which have to be special ordered. 3) They just have too many model orders to keep up with. 4) The mail delivery people stole your model. Just wait a little while longer. Eventually they'll send you a model or your money back. adios mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 15:11:45 -0400 From: Zodiac Subject: Toronto Show Fiends, The Toronto show rocked! I am now convinced...THE MISFITS ARE BACK! Michale did an excellent job on the vocals, and the music was very tight. It was far better then I anticipated. I will definately see them again! Zodiac P.S. Any news on Danzig V? ========================= Drink Cthulhu Tequila... ...this time, the worm eats YOU! ========================= ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 18:36:24 -0400 Subject: Milwaukee Fiends, I cannot make it to the Chicago show....does anyone know anything about a possible Milwaukee Misfits show. According to that tentative schedule posted many moons ago, the plan was to go to Milwaukee after Chicago. Is this still true? If so, let me know asap. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 21:13:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Rupp Subject: what 138 means well--the MISFITS are from Lodi, New Jersey. Lodi, New Jersey is exit 138 on the highway (not Jersey Turnpike, some Highway with a number, don't remember. Sooo, that's my 2C ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 01:09:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Subject: Toronto show What a cool fuckin show!The best part of the show was when Michael Graves jumped into the crowd and beat the shit out of someone.I not really sure how it came about but Doyle had this guy in a headlock then the guy went back into the crowd.Then they stopped the song and Michael said "where is that fuckin cocksucker" then he spotted him in the crowd close to the stage and just threw down his mic and jumped into the crowd and beat the shit out of the guy.Then the guy was being dragged up on stage and over comes Jerry to get some shots in as well as Doyle.After that Jerry says to the crowd "we don't like beating the shit outta people".I think he was just reassuring the crowd that it only happens if you're a dick towards the band ,that's my guess at least. All in all it was an amazing show except WAY too much bass.Don't get me wrong the bass is a very IMPORTANT part of the Misfits but I couldn't hear the guitar and and some of the vocals.The mic kept cutting out too.I also met a bible fiend(Tyler Buckmaster) after the show just by luck.The Misfits are amazing and put on one helluva show and Michael Graves is an awesome singer and a good fighter too.I'm glad to see the Misfits don't take any shit.Sal.B from the opening band said this was the first time the Misfits ever played in Canada.Is that true?One last thing if anyone has a bootleg of the show either audio or video please e-mail me and let me know so I can buy a copy or trade somthing for it.Ya I know this ain't much of a write up on the show it's just what I thought was cool.There will be other posts about the Toronto show I'm almost positive. see ya, Jason ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 01:40:43 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: dutch wonderland saw the misfits in lancaster last night... they were even more incredible than in RI, the chameleon club is pretty cool... better sound system than babyhead. i could understand almost every word they sang... i hope they use a lot of the video footage they took at this show. they played almost the same songs as they did in RI in a slightly different order... afterwords i talked with everyone and got them to sign my jacket. even doyle talked to me a little bit... needless to say, everyone was really cool. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 12:54:14 -0700 From: zzz Subject: guitar school, june 96 GS: Why didn't you cover any misfits songs? is it because of metallica? Kerry King: It was because of Glenn Danzig. He's not the most pleasant person in the world, and we just didn't want to do any of Glenn's songs. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 10:47:34 GMT From: Michael Myers Subject: Any one need these? I have some black vinyl versions of the following albums: Misfits: Legacy Caroline Label $8 Earth A.D. Caroline label $8 Die Die My Darling $7 Samhain: Initium Caroline label $8 November Coming Fire Caroline label $8 If interested in these e-mail me Shifter138 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 12:10:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Bad Ninja Subject: tshirts, bootleggers etc... Hey, I just had a look at the t-shirt designs! I like the Daniel Spectre's one! I think it's very suitable with maybe some minor adjustments (not sure what). Oh, and don't make it a long sleeve :) I just read CG's post to EVB... I thought these 2 were friends :) . Although I have (in the past) felt like writing some of the stuff CG wrote about EVB, I never did 'cause I always thought that it would be unfair (at least in public) and probably not true either! The thing is that EVB's response to the new Misfits was expected, so why did you get so upset CG? Oh, I know... it was a joke, a wind up for all of us and even as I'm writing this CG and EVB are laughing, right??? (I sure hope so) Brent Eyestone, you hypocrite! I was amused while reading your post. Bashing bootleggers for charging money for tapes and then trying desperately to explain how it's only fair for you (sorry, your bro) to charge people... What the fuck, you're still ok :) What else? Oh yea, about that getting to know each other... I'm Yannis, 25 years old, like mostly HC and punk (US and European), been into the Misfits for about 7-8 years and the last book I've read was Distributed Systems, COncepts & Design (I know I'm sad but I got my exams in 3 weeks :)) ) That's all for now, Yannis ----------/-----------/-------/-----------/---------------/----------/-------- cm-y.nikolopoulos@tees.ac.uk `Disrespect is a 2-way street', H.R ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 11:21:13 -0400 From: "::datskat::" Subject: 9:30 Club Show hola, fiends. i'm looking for anyone that has a recording of the show at the 9:30 Club in D.C. on 5/1/96. i was there, and would like to relive the experience as much as possile. video would be rad, but audio will make me just as happy. i only have one misfits show on tape (unknown date and location - it was on a danzig tape i bought), but i have a pretty good danzig show from 88 and they do a couple misfits songs on it. but i do have lots of other non-misfits stuff to trade. if all else fails, i'll resort to paying for it. if anyone can help me out, PLEASE let me know. btw, i got Jerry's pick when he tossed it. crimson ghost on it and everything. yay for me. anyone with any tapes (video or audio) from the current tour, please drop me a line and maybe we can work something out. *************************************************************************** @ "punk ain't no religeous cult, punk means thinking for yourself @ @ @ you ain't hardcore 'cause you spike your hair @@ @ @ when a jock still lives inside your head." @ @@@ @ @ mail me your thoughts on corndogs, Ron Jeremy, or the wonderful @ @@@ mullet hairstyle. @@ @ @ @ @ @ "I drank what?" - Socrates @ *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 16:36:31 -0400 From: johngrimm@aol.com Subject: Auction BOOTLEG MISFITS POSTERS up for auction ---small: 2' x 1.5' * 3 Hits From Hell (red) * with Necros and Beastie Boys (Die Die artwork) * black and white skull with logo * All Hell Breaks Loose with Necros * Danzig at the Starwood with Circus of Power ---medium: 3 x 2' * 4 coffins with 3 photos and 1 skull * 4 skulls with logo * Walk Among Us with Rev: 13:18 * Evilive LP cover * Die Die My Darling cover * Fiend Club * Wolfs Blood * Beware - photo of Glenn, Doyle, Jerry * Samhain: skull and logo * Samhain: skull girl with cards * Samhain: close-up of Glenn's face * Danzig: Glenn on cross with goat's head * Danzig: Lucifuge group photo wth St. John: 8:44 ---large: 3' x 4.5' * Walk Among Us with Rev: 13:18 * Contains previously unreleased versions (with Glenn superimposed on C.G.) * Legacy Of Brutality with Sean Wyatt painting of Glenn * Samhain: skull girl with cards ________________________OTHER STUFF___________________________________ ---*Special Grab Bag* * 47 bootleg stickers (Misfits/Samhain/Danzig) * 8 bootleg postcards (Misfits/Samhain/Danzig) * 4 bootleg backpatches (Misfits/Samhain) * 3 bootleg patches (Misfits/Samhain) * 2 bootleg backstage passes (Misfits/Danzig) * 1 bootleg Misfits hat ---Records * Misfits: Beware replica (one of 490 perfect bootlegs) * Misfits: 4 Hits From Hell bootleg 7" * Samhain: November-Coming-Fire (first print, lyric sheet is missing) * Danzig: purple vinyl Mother 12" single ---*ATTENTION SERIOUS COLLECTORS* * 5 Black Coffin Skateboard decks (the real thing! - made by Glenn in '87) ---Official posters * Collection II posters (several remain - inquire) Please contact... Johnathan M. Grimm 6900 Newby Hall Ct. Clifton, VA 22024 (703) 222-1282 johngrimm@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 17:13:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy Dempz Subject: easy to read breakdown of the Detroit show 1) One good Detroit punk band played, Flip and Sardonica were awful. 2) About 20 Northern Hammers (nazis) showed up, a lot coming from out of town. The Sids were supposed to show up and fight them but decided to stay home. This left me feelig a might be uneasy, being with only two other people and obvious targets... (ex SHARPs and anti racist skins) 3) Slowly the numbers grew so we weren't down 20 - 3, more like 30 - 8. Just the kind of odds I love. 4) I basically ignored the entire Misfits set seeing as how I was too busy watching my back and keeping track of my friends. To quote Indiana Jones, "I hate Nazis." 5) Jerry got fat! Doyle's still ripped though. But Pillsbury Only, tee hee. 6) Mike Graves' voice sounded fine. But, he needs better stage moves and to let his hair down. By the end of the show he looked like Wolverine from the X-Men. 7) I couldn't even see dr CHUD behind that monster kit. 8) They played just about every song they had, except She, Angelfuck, Rat Fink, and a couple others. Looooong set, seemed even longer with the Seig heiling in the pit. 9) Sardonica dedicated a song "to our German brothers." Fuck Sardonica. 10) So in the end the Nazis left and waited outside the club, but while we were gathering our numbers to make our exit they dispersed. All that stress and only a couple scraps. 11) What a shitty night. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 10:20:22 -0400 From: Sane Insane Subject: Toronto SHOW! Well I got Something to Say.. THE MISFITS ROCKED TORONTO ON FRIDAY!! Yes folks teh SHOCKING return of The Misfits was just that... I'm gonna keep this short cause I'm STILL excited about it... First off Sardonica sucked.. this is strictly my opinion and they tried... they had good audience participitation and a good attitude but they weren't my thing.. Now on to bigger and Nuttier things... THE MISFITS...All I can say is WOW! They were everything I ever expected and SO much more.... I managed to survive in teh pit for about 3/4 of teh show.. great mosh pit... I got on stage 2 times and it was fucking awesome. During teh set I managed to 1) Touch michaels hhand and sing 3 lines of Die Die my Darling into teh mic.. 2) Strum Jerry's bass and 3) touch Doyles guitar. As ALOT of people have heard by now there were 2 fights during the show.. YES 2. The first I have no damn idea why but Doyle and Mike FUCKED the kid up... just liek teh old days.. no question... The second some kid got onstage and stole CHUD's water and fucked with teh equiptment and Doyles guitar.. BAD MOVE... they stopped teh show and called him up...All I'll say is that he felt the WRATH of teh New Misfits...... AND THERE'S MORE!! I had talked to Jerry on teh phone countless times before teh concert about the show.. after the venue cleared a bit I got a roadie to tell Jerry I was there.. AND I went into teh tour bus and met teh guys and had a beer with teh band... FIRST CLASS as always.. It was teh best moment ever.. I sat with Doyle and CHUD for a few and talked about teh altercations na dthen Jerry came in.. I stood up to shake his hand and he hugged me and said it was great to finally meet me... For all my life I will never NEVER forget that moment.. I met one of my idols... We sat inside for a few mns and then went outside wheere Jerry stood in teh FREEZING cold rain and signed stuff for people.. even a copy of Collection II :)... The I found my 4 friends who I was there with and we all went upstairs and ate with the band... Thast right.. they let 4 of my friends backstage and upstairs to meet and talk with teh band... >From there we went back inside..a few pics and a few words.. I can honestly say that it was teh BEST night of my life... I hope that the Guys see this cause EVERYONE should know The Jerry, Doyle, Mike and CHUD are 100% first class... they hung around for a couple hours and let people backstage to get stuff signed and to talk.. FIRST CLASS... I hope that everyone gets and opprotunity to see these first class guys and I know that myself and my friends will NEVER forget that night... Fiend138 #misfits OP PS. Just wanna say that it was a GREAT show and a GREAT night ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 23:34:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Guero 666 Subject: TORONTO SHOW The Toronto show was nothing short of amazing! I have to admit my limited expectaitons of a new singer but Graves cames through. The only bad thing about the show was the performance by opening act/roadies Sardonica - the only openers of the night (did they have to put their name on my Misfits shirt?) Perhaps they made a mistake adressing Toronto as "french Canadians" OK? So what? Sounding like every band - especially Bad Religion with Steve Vai on guitar, these guys lulled me to sleep for about 40 minutes. Too bad, so sad bye bye. Better luck next time. The Misfits were a different story! They steamrolled through about 43 songs in 2 hours. Highlights - a stupid fan did something to the band and midway though (Bloodfeast?) Jerry and Doyle dropped their guitars and with Michale dove into the crowd and beat the living shit out of the guy. then the returned to the stage to replay the song, while the idiot was dragged out by security (unconsious???). The bass cut out a few times - in true Misfits fashion. Indeed this was the roughest concert Iv'e been to - Iv'e got bruises to show for it too. Lowpoint: the steriod-pit king on the right side of the stage who beat the shit out of myself and about 30 other fans for being within 10 feet of his ugly girlfriend - fuck off loser! Brett (Fama) and I got the chance to hang out with the band (without Jerry)after the show and talk, then we went to meet Jerry in his dressing room! Everyone was cool and it was and amazing show. I even got Jerry and Doyle to sign my Earth AD LP that was previously autographed by Glenn. My life is now complete. Anyhow, anyone in the Toronto area going to the Misfits/Anthrax show in Rochester NY on May 31 can get tickets at Ticketmaster for about $28. E-mail me if your going maybe we can find a common hotel or meet at the show. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 02:13:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steev L." Subject: 138 sighting There's this local BBS I go on around here that gives you a quote from Star Wars every time you logon. Well, one that caught my eye was this one: "Prisoner transfer from cell block 1138" -Luke Skywalker Someone please tell me that this sighting of 138 wasn't already mentioned in the bible. Oh, and another freaky thing or two about that number: my brother got driving lessons which costed us exactly $138. Soon after he got his license, we found out that his insurance will cost $138 a month. Steve Langerholc slan8796@acc.fau.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 03:05:26 -0400 From: She Subject: Cleveland The Misfits destroyed Cleveland tonight. It was the most crowded of the 3 shows I've been to so far on this tour, and in my opinion - the best. I had a great view from where I was sitting and the sound was absolutely amazing. I think that some of you who complained about Michale not sounding right must have been at shows where the sound wasn't so great. This show the sound (at least where I was sitting) was absolutely perfect. There was just the right balance of vocals, guitar, and bass.... Michale sounded amazing... absolutely amazing. He did the songs perfectly, especially the Static Age stuff which he really likes because he can go all out with his singing (as opposed to shouting). I am now convinced that the Earth AD stuff is the best live. It's unbelievable how powerful and fun that stuff is, especially Queen Wasp, which has become one of my favorites recently. During 3 of the last four songs of the regular set, Larry The Wolf (former lead singer of The Manimals) hopped up on the stage and sang with Michale. It was great to see Larry back on the stage again and it looked like he really enjoyed it. With his black makeup and muscles, he looked just like a 5th Misfit running around on the stage. The best part of the entire night (to me) was "We Are 138". Not only did Sal come out as always, and not only was Larry The Wolf onstage, but Frankenstein even joined them onstage. It was total chaos - all these tall wild guys running around singing... Everybody was really having a great time. One of the things that made this show different from others was that it opened with a 10-15 minute video of various horror movie scenes that Michale and Rocky put together a few weeks ago. The video was projected onto this big screen in front of the stage and "Halloween II" played in the background for the duration. As the screen came up, each of the guys took the stage separately, waving to the crowd, as Doyle played the creepy opening guitar riffs to an unknown (except to me) tune. Other highlights of this show included "She" and "Angelfuck" - both of which are rarely played. I was kind of let down that I didn't get to see them do "Theme For A Jackal" - it's Michale's favorite Misfits song, and definitely one of mine as well. Oh well, maybe next time. The set list - 5/12/96: ~~~~~~~ Halloween * Horror Business * I Turned Into A Martian Death Comes Ripping * All Hell Breaks Loose * The Hunger * Static Age * TV Casualty * Hybrid Moments * Last Caress * Skulls Devils Whorehouse * Return Of The Fly * Teenagers From Mars Children In Heat * Violent World * Vampira * Blacklight * The Haunting Night Of The Living Dead 20 Eyes * Hollywood Babylon * Horror Hotel * Ghouls Night Out Attitude * London Dungeon * Astro Zombies (with Larry The Wolf) Hate Breeders (with Larry The Wolf) * Bullet We Are 138 (with Sal B, Larry The Wolf, and Frankenstein) Encores: Green Hell * Queen Wasp * Devilock * Bloodfeast * Some Kinda Hate * Mommy Nike A Go Go * Where Eagles Dare * Come Back * She * Angelfuck * American Nightmare * Die Die My Darling Also everybody, the upcoming tour will be a monster. The Misfits will be touring the midwest for 6 weeks, broken up by a 2 week rest period after the first 4 week block. Anthrax will be opening - it was Anthrax's idea. I do have about 5 to 7 of the dates at this point, but I'd rather post them all when I get them (next issue, hopefully). There were a lot of Misfits Bible fiends at the show and it was good to see you... I guess I missed you Keith - I was looking though... I did see some of your Angy Red flyers. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 01:10:27 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S .) Subject: Just another day in the neighborhood... Hi fiends and thank you to all the fiends that have sent in their birthdays, please keep them coming. I want to send one mass printout to Pat for the calendar and i need to have as many as possible before i start the set up. To Brett - i like your comment about Glenn and the greed factor. I've seen Danzig three times and have only paid $14 - 15 each time. Twice was at the Sunrise Musical Center which is a small venue but does get a lot of large acts that charge up to $30 or more. so you are right on the money!?! To Bloodfeast - you might be right about the name of that movie but they took it from another older movie. The original image of the skeleton creature over the coffins came from the movie The Undead - 1958. Plus it's kind of obvious where Glenn got the idea since he has the poster for the Undead in his room during the old days. Look at the pictures from the Thrasher interview from 1986. The movie is interesting, about reincarnation of a woman who is plagued with terrible dreams, a doctor helps her by hypnotizing her and taking her back to her first life where she is accused of being a witch. It goes on and on and i do have a copy of the movie. to Eric thank you for posting your info this has helped a great deal, also there is nothing wrong with liking Sweet or Devo, etc. One of the first records i bought in 1974 - 1975 was Sweet - Fox on the Run. Plus i do like Devo and saw them live when i was 13. Now 15 years later i don't care what anyone thinks, i just love the music i love!?! to Undermine - what is that shit with the cheap shot at Danzig!?! I don't doubt that the new Misfits are good and put on a powerful show, but Glenn, Eerie, John and Chuck have ripped the roof off at all the shows i've seen when they have played. I think you need to listen to their music again to remind yourself of what they sound like or put on one of the video tapes. You might have lost a bit of your hearing or memory at the Misfits show. well it's been fun as usual, keep those b-days coming in to me or Pat. TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Wanted...Misfits ADAM WEST 7" *The shocking re-return of the MisFiTs* Cleveland some stuff Confirmed Dates Misfits/cannibal corpse/anthrax Re: I'm Back Cleveland and Comments Eerie's Band Goodbye lovelys... misfits toronto show may 10 96 Studio Time ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #177 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 04:20:48 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andy Dempz > Subject: easy to read breakdown of the Detroit show > > 2) About 20 Northern Hammers (nazis) showed up, a lot coming from out of > town. The Sids were supposed to show up and fight them but decided to > stay home. This left me feelig a might be uneasy, being with only two > other people and obvious targets... (ex SHARPs and anti racist skins) > > 11) What a shitty night. Hey Adam - it sucks that you didn't enjoy the show because of the crowd. I really didn't see any obvious Nazis at any of the shows I attended. To the best of my knowledge, the Sardonica guys do not support any such groups. I imagine that, if anything, the comment was meant to sarcastic. Anyway fiends, some of you at the Toronto show were misled into believing that it was the first show in Canada they had ever done. This is not the case. The Misfits played some shows there in 1978 at a place called Shock Theatre. mark ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: detroit show and other stuff Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:36:50 -0400 (EDT) well i'll give a lil review of the detroit show first. i have to agree w/ andy sardonica, well they weren't by cup o tea. i thought he would have like flipp sinc e they were pissing the german boyz off, and i knew once of the guys so i'm biased. the fits, well everyone went ape shit when they came on. for the first 10 songs it was great, and then jerry blew his amps, all 4 of em. played the rest of the night stright into the pa, sounded like shit. another one they didin't play, was spook city usa, and maybe some stuff offa earth ad. no the sids were there, but they got the idea right, they were there to watch the show, not fight. i agree w/ EVB it was a good show, not a great one. i was sorta disappointed, but that was based maily due to waiting nearly 1/2 hour just to get in. to whoever said micheal looks like bily idol, i think that a fair, if not funny observation. he has great stage persona and looks like he loves what he's doing. he'll develop a less-glenn like persona as he does it more. everyone i talked to who had been @ the last show @ the greystone had this to say "danzigs a dick" which somehow didn't quite answer the "which singer was better?" question. another interesting thing, outside of the obvious idoit watching, both the nazsi & morons they were fighting with(sorry andy), every bass player in local bands i talked to said "look he's playing a wireless straight into the monitor," and every drummer said "dumb impractical drum kit, look cool tho" some other stuff now. i'd respond to nick's flame of EVB, but i think thats what he wants attention, cause well it's not "his" bible anymore, just an idea tho. this is to bobby. well how do you purpose putting a quarentine on those w/ HIV/AIDS? unless most people come out and tell ta, how are you gonna know? mandatory testing? i somehow don't think this country is quite that close to 1984, but we're close. maybe a more socialistic government could impose such testing but not here. my sig is directed at all those "save this... save that..." people who think that one more person supporting their little cause will actually make a difference somehow. nobody in government cares tremendously about what those groups say, except at elction time. well i've said my bit i'll go lurk again until fall -- Paul Hahn If you think there's a solution hahnpaul@acm.msu.edu then you're part of the problem. Check out the speedball page @ http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul/speedball ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:58:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Snook Subject: Detroit Show and various stuff Well, just to elaborate on the Detroit show and some other views: - Technical: The Misfits sounded great. The bass cut out a few times, but it was no big deal. The show sounded a lot better than the bootlegs w/ Glenn back in '81 [i.e. they didn't spend 5 minutes after each song trying to tune the guitars] - Image: If I closed my eyes and squinted I could pretend that Michale was Glenn. He did an excellent job filling Glenn's place (the guy can sing Misfits songs!) but needs to find his own niche. It was like a copy-cat. What next? The skull & bones shirt that Glenn always wore? - The Songs: Granted, the songs are by the Misfits, but it still bothered me to hear Michale sing some of them. To me, American Nightmare has been a Glenn song. The Misfit's w/ Glenn never played it live... In fact, American Nightmare wasn't a Static Age track, and to the best of my knowledge, Legacy of Brutality was Glenn's baby. The song was an experimentation in country style music, and to hear it "punked-out" by the new Misfits kinda stunk. Also, I think no other person can do justice to the song "Come Back" like Glenn can. It was fabulous hearing the Misfits playing as many songs as they did (all but AngelFuck, Halloween II, Ratt Fink, Spook City, She, Cough/Cool), but in the future I think they should focus more on new songs. Doyle has never been my favorite guitarist (I found EAD and WAS weak in that department) and he mucked up some of the earlier work (especially some solos), and at some point just held up his hands like "Woops... nevermind." To put it simply, do what you're good at. Hopefully, with new songs on the way, this won't be the case. - The Crowd: I really don't like Nazis. They are really ridiculous. In fact, they are down right silly. I've never felt any racist overtone from a Misfit song. However, Sardonica seems to be somewhat sympathetic to the cause. What was one good thing I got to enjoy from my balcony spot (I'm too old for the pit!) was to watch the crowd think: "Hurum, 12 of them... 400 of us..." Needless to say, a couple of those skins were issued a beat down from other folks. - After the show: I was getting the glow skull T-Shirt when this big, sweaty, stinky, chunky buy bumped into me. I guess his name was Jerry Only or something... Jerry made a brief appearance and "hi-fived" and then took off. All in all: Entertaining. Was better than I expected... However, I'm still a fan of Glenn Danzig! .,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+' Eric Snook University of Michigan snook@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~snook `'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,.,+'`'+,. * The government shouldn't read your e-mail unless you send it to them. * No one should censor you from obscene television, without your consent. * Morality is learned in the family and from religion, not from Uncle Sam. * Kids should avoid drugs because they're dangerous, not because they're illegal. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:34:47 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: When I'm wrong I always admit it! Well, Here's my responses to the recent influx of post's concerning me. Read on if you want. If not just hit your spacebar a few times. And to everyone that doesn't like it anyway: In the words of a dear friend of mine, "Pull out Guns & Roses - Use your Illusion II, and listen to Shotgun Blues!" --->Dave Asselin >As an aside: I thought CG's firebombing of EVB was *way* out of line-- it >was the equivalent of throwing a chair through a window to let in a breeze. Wow, That *really* is a good analogy!! heheheh Actually I kinda agree with you, well somewhat anyway. I'll attempt to explain this to everyone as I answer the following posts. --->Smith Family >I read on Mark's page (and what a great page it is) that the Misfit's work >or own ProEdge knife company or something. Well I think it would rule to >see a commercial with them in it for ProEdge I thought this was *real* interesting. Jerry & Doyle's Dad owns Proedge, which is a subsidiary of Congruent Machine Company. Fact of the matter is Proedge couldn't afford them! --->Kyle Pumroy > I think it's too bad we have to read more about Crimson God's >superior opinions. EVB, you're entitled to your opinions and it's too bad >somebody has to criticize you for them. So what if everyone but her loved >the shows? Minorities opinions are meaningless I guess. I'm not >criticizing CG's opinions, just his attitude towards other's. I'm not totally blaming you, but this is the scoop. You know you are obviously the biggest asshole on this list. Let me explain why. Yeah, some of the things I said about EVB are really untrue, I lashed out at her because of some comments *you* made a while back about me. You stated, when I was thinking about hanging up my hat, that (paraphased) "Losing CG, that's no big deal, but losing EVB, that was a great loss." Let me be perfectly clear to you, when you joined this list you knew absolutely nothing! and at that time *I* was providing the bulk of the inside information on the Misfits. If it wasn't for people like Mark & myself you would be right back where you were a year & a half ago, not knowing shit. You insinuate that I never did anything for this list. I may not have posted much information in the last year, but in the year prior to that I posted shitloads. Including some information that Jerry wasn't too happy about me leaking. I put my friendship with Jerry on the line many times just so I could tell people like you what was going on. If you don't appreciate that, again listen to fucking Shotgun Blues "YOU CAN SUCK MY ASS!" --->a.proctor >And yes, you are right about Jerry and >Glenn being the MiSFiTS. But you insinuate that a New Misfits is >more valid with Jerry Only than with Glenn Only (ha ha, get it?). hehehehe - that is a good one...(for the Stern fans) >After seeing them, I know they are both necessary for a true misfits >line-up, but I do believe Glenn (the guy who wrote the music, lyrics, >and created the image and artwork) to be MORE integral to the line-up >than Jerry. Although the bass was of supreme importance to the >misfits sound, so was glenn's voice. Actually, you are really off base. The fact of the matter is: Who gives a fuck if it's a "True Misfits Reunion" If people are enjoying it? As far as Glenn being more "Integral" than Jerry, that's a big crock of shit. Maybe you should do as I did and talk to some more people that were around back then. Maybe then you would realize that; had it not been for Jerry pushing Glenn all the way there would never have been a Misfits. I've come to understand more of where Glenn's coming from these days, that's why I no longer post bad criticisms of the man. It's not that I agree with him, it's just that I understand more of why he is what he is. As far as putting a great importance on Glenn's voice..... That's laughable, he's an ok vocalist, and a mediocre songwriter at best. Let's not make him into some sort of musical god, he's not. One thing I can't stand is when people talk about him like he's some kind of great innovator. He didn't originate *anything* he took alot of influences and strung them together to make something pretty damn cool. The music is fun, it's garage rock that's what attracts me to it, nothing more. It's raw, it's exciting, it's fun, not profound, not awe inspiring. Face it the Misfits are one of the best lousy bands in the world. >CG: Can you defin groupie and fan for me? You seem to me a little >presumptuous. What makes your love of the 'fits different from >EVB's? Because she liked the opening band???? Simple a groupie is someone that obsesses on something. That's what EVB does, it disgusts me. That is really the only thing that bothers me about her. She claims to be personal friends with Glenn, OK that's great. The problem is when people were talking about Glenn in an unsavory fashion (myself included) she got all bent out of shape about it. That bugged the shit outta me. As long as I'm on this subject, when she stopped posting I sent her a personal email asking her to stay, that email went unanswered. I posted it to the bible after hearing nothing back from her. Another thing most of you fail to realise is that if it wasn't for me posting an advertisement on the Danzig Usenet Group, EVB wouldn't have been on this list back then. I'm *not* trying to be self-promoting here, I'm just stating fact. A lot of you think that I'm just some self important asshole that has nothing better to do but flame people. Nothing could be further from the truth. I care about this list, alot, I hate to see what's become of it. --->Keith138@aol.com >what a wise man (my uncle) once said though , "Opinions are like assholes , >every one has one. Most of them stink." hehehe - funny I thought that was my mom's saying! > However , it burns me up ( and I should really give you benefit of doubt >here , cuz the post was garbled on Aol , so I'm not even 100 % sure I should >direct this at you , and I don't know if I got the entire message , but...) >when you generalize about collectors. You should go back a few issues and >read my post on collector bashing. > Do you go into Wal-Mart and expect to find a Van Gogh original for $15 ?! >NO! Do you go to Stan's Previously Owned Vehicles and pay $300 for a cherry >'73 Trans Am w/a 455 Super Duty?! NO!! The reason you pay $50 for that rare >vinyl is cuz it's RARE! A marbled Who Killed Marilyn is a piece of rare art , >of course it should be valued more than a Thriller LP , get it?! It's all >supply and demand. Let me clarify things for you. I HATE people that don't spin vinyl PERIOD. Just like I HATE people that won't spend money. It was a low blow on my part to accuse EVB of that. Come to think of it I have a copy of the "Hymns from hell tape" (which I have since loaned out) and her vinyl sounds like shit, so she must play it...hehehehehe...Sorry 'bout that Liz. A '73 T/A 455 SD? Fuck that it's better off in a junk yard. I'm in the middle of restoring a '69 Vette Conv. 427/425hp, what do you think I'm gonna do with it? I'll tell you one thing it ain't gonna sit in my garage when it's done, I plan on running the shit outta it. Why? Because that's it's intended purpose. I like the Van Gogh Comment though, Lemme ask you; If you had a van gogh would you lock it away somewhere or would you hang it up for all the world to see? To lock it up would be blasphemy, wouldn't it? Well that's how I feel about people that don't spin vinyl. I think the rarest piece of vinyl I own is a copy of "Freewheeling Bob Dylan" it's an original press Columbia mono, it's rare as hell, cause it has extra tracks on it that the stereo press did not have. I spin it all the time, and it's mint! (not even a paper scuff!) it's worth a bundle! but what's it worth to me if I don't spin it? NOTHING! I had Jaid as a houseguest last weekend, I pulled it out and spun it for her, actually we sat up partying until 4:30am spinning vinyl, it was a great time. The prices of rare vinyl are not the fault of the dealers directly. They are only selling it for what the market will bear. It's more the fault of the completist collectors who will pay anything just to get that one specific nugget, thus driving the prices higher. Does that clear things up a bit Keith? --->coyote I won't respond to your post line for line because I think what I've said above pretty much sums things up. --This is gonna hurt-- Tell Liz I'm sorry, I unjustly attacked her when I was in a bad mood. There's still some things we will always disagree on, but hey what the hell. She's entitled to her opine as much as I am. Everyone's entitled to a bad judgement every now and then, I was wrong on most of it and I admit it. So anyway give her a hug for me and tell her I owe her a dinner some time, there's plenty of stuff we do agree on. ie: Velvet Underground, Iggy, Magazine...etc --->PDH1021@aol.com >CG: Your personal attack on EVB was low, even for you. I believe that >she--like you, me, or anyone else on this list Read the above post >I think that YOU need to >lighten up just a tad with YOUR hero-worship. hmmmm. I don't worship this band at all, or anyone really. I post the way I do because Jerry is my friend and I believe his side of the story, period. that's all. Worship him? no you are mistaken. I don't even really like the band that much, it's fun to listen to now and then, but shit I could prolly think of at least 30 other bands I'd rather hear. >I'm expecting that your response to this will be either an irrational, >invective-laden piece of drivel or a private "hate mail." Did it live up to your expectations? --->Patricia Said: >It is good to see the arguments that would crap up the bible being >held on the Op Man. if you want to flout your political views, do it >there. >unless of course it is misfits related! all of you who wroteme to attempt >to flame me--the unflameable dream--for disliking Henry Garfield take it >up either personally with me or on the Op Man like Dave Asselin did. >Smart cookie, Dave. This is good advice for everybody - Although Patricia & myself seriously disagree with Dave Asselin on the Henry Rollins issue, and have every intention of telling him so, we respect him for doing the right thing and posting his gripe on Operator's Manual and not here. for more info on OPman Check out http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ "An' I hate modern music, Disco boogie pop They go on an' on an' on an' on an' on How - I - wish - they - would - STOP" -- Pete Shelley The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ Operator's Manual http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om #misfits channel op -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ From: NOTLD138@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:58:45 -0400 Subject: Detroit Show Fiends, This is the first time I've posted anything to the bible, although I've been here for about 125 issues. There just was'nt any purpose in me posting when everything I needed or wanted to know about the Misfits was being talked about or could be explained on Mark's page. But I thought I give my 2 cents about the show in Detroit. It was fucking fantastic. The opening bands where'nt to great and waiting outside in the cold for an hour sucked, but it was all well worth it when the Fits took the stage. They played every song except: Spinal Remains, Angelfuck, Cough/Cool, Braineaters, Hellhound, Demonomania, Rat Fink, and She. I might have missed a couple more, but can't remember because I was up front singing my brains out and getting crushed by everyone else. From what I could hear, when the crowd was'nt singing along, Mike Graves sounded awesome. After the show I talked to Jerry for about 10 seconds when he was making his way through the crowd. I told him it was a great show and he thanked me for coming by. One other thing, I think it's pretty cool that the Misfits will be touring with Anthrax. My friend's brothers used to all listen Anthrax and it sort of rubbed off on me when I was smaller. It's kinda weird, I listen to all these punk bands, and then Anthrax. For all of those fiends who don't like Anthrax, and are bothered by this sort of thing, just leave after the Misfits play. Or if Anthrax opens, then come later. -NOTLD138 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:02:04 -0400 From: She Subject: Funny Stories > Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:27:52 -0400 (EDT) > From: Stephen Ed Sulzbach > > I like Glenn's music. I don't like Glenn. To quote Glenn at > the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby last year "I'm gonna crack open your > fucking heads and squeeze out your brains, then I'm gonna rip your > worthless little shit bodies into little pieces." Etc... . This was > said to me and three of my friends because we got ahold of one of Mr > Anzelone's high school year book pictures and made a poster out of it. > We wrote "Glenn Anzelone" in big letters and showed at the concert. > Glenn caught a view and freaked. Gimme a fucking break! It was just a > joke. You should've seen it. Right in the middle of a song he stopped > singing and tried jumping off the stage. The bouncers grabbed him and > threw him back up. He then proceeded to scream and yell at us and > threaten to kill us. He even asked us to come back stage so he could kill > us in a more private area I guess. I guess he didn't want all his new > trendy fans to see the way he once looked and what his real name was. Hmmmm, this sounds suspicious. I hope you're not talking about the Philadelphia show of 12/3/94, because if you are, something's very wrong. I was at that show, along with EVB and about 5 other friends we know. All of us saw the same thing - during one of the the first songs, somebody ripped off Glenn's cross pendant and in doing so tore open his custom made (expensive) latex shirt. Glenn got angry (for good reason) and jumped into the audience, all the while yelling at the idiot who tour his shirt. This is the story he told after the show, and can be backed up not only by those of us who were at the show, but by the VIDEO of the show itself. I have watched it several times and never seen this poster. I have seen the shirt though - Glenn gave it to EVB after the show and it's certainly torn. Another interesting thing about this story - Glenn's last name is not spelled Anzelone, as this person spelled it. The correct spelling is, however, listed in the Lodi High School yearbooks. I would expect somebody with a copy of a yearbook picture to at least get the spelling right.... Maybe we were at different shows.... I've got a complete tour listing of every show Danzig has ever done and they only played at Tower Theater in Philadelphia that one time. Perhaps it did happen and we (and the video) missed it. Interestingly enough, after this same show I had Glenn sign a photocopy of a picture from the 70's that Franche' Coma had given me. Glenn signed it and didn't think twice about it... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:49:29 -0400 From: She Subject: Larry The Wolf Hey fiends - I don't know how many of you saw the Cleveland show, but those of you who could have gone, and missed it, missed something good. Although the crowd was tamer and less into the show than at other shows, it was fun. A good deal of people showed up at the club just to see Larry The Wolf onstage - I even saw a Manimals shirt in the sea of Crimson Ghosts... Anyway, now is the time to get this record, if you're interested. A lot of fiends seem to really enjoy it, especially Johnathan Grimm, and D-Rod... It's good stuff. I should have some pictures of Larry and The Misfits onstage next week. For your copy, send $15 to: Larry The Wolf P.O. Box 45518 Westlake, Ohio 44145 (postage is included, make cheques to Larry The Wolf) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 15:43:28 -0400 From: Emperor Subject: Detroit Show Hey, I just wanted to get the fuckin record strait that the deroit show on may 11, was fuckin awsome. sure all the fuckin nazi's sucked but that wasn't a good reason not to enjoy yourself. It was totally fuckin wild up near the barrier. I got crushed at the begining of the concert. I have to admit the drum set was a little much, but that's the Misfits. And was pritty cool in the end when Jerry, Chud, and Graves came down to sign autographs at the concert. Graves is definatly a good replacement for the misfits. So for anyone who missed this concert "YOUR A FUCKIN ASSWHOLE!" Emperor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 15:53:51 -0700 From: Matt Becker Subject: Bible letter: Cleveland show Concerning a letter about the cleveland show.. I attended both the detroit and cleveland shows and would have to disagree about the cleveland being the best. I thought it was a crappy little show full of almost 60% little pop radio listening lossers. Jerry had to ask if people knew the songs, he had to introduce the songs over and over, people didnt know the lyrics for the songs; and over all, it really seemed like a show that was hyped up by trendy little radio stations drawing in the "Alternative" (=pop) crowd. The detoirt show was far better overall. Better crowd, more feeling from the band, and the people knew the songs and the lyrics. This is not an attack on those who went to the cleveland show who should be there, you guys were around and gave a hell of a show, i just feel sorry that your show was crowded out by a buncha alternateens. I wonder if this differance had something to do with the people who promoted the show. Cleveland was bud lite and belkin, detroit was clutch cargo.. Any ideas? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:34:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Rupp Subject: GG ALLIN Saw some talk of GG--- I did a lot of work with him from 1987-right before he died and he was a pretty decent guy--very upfront, straight foward, a little scattered now and then but his behavior onstage was just that--his behavior onstage. Off stage he was pretty normal, although the drugs and alcohol and sex stuff may be seen by some as freakish(I considered him extreme, but not everyone would. The US GOV consideres you an alcholic if you drink more than 3x a month, a jhunkie if you smoke pot 4x a month, etc.) His music was great early on--YOU'LL NEVER TAME ME + EAT MY FUC are two fothe best hardcore punk albums, ever, period, bar none, on par or better than BOLLOCKS, FRESH FRUIT, WALK AMONG US, you name it. He did some great singles, I saw one complete live show (LISMAR LOUNGE 1987)that he got through without being hsut off, passing out, and it was just perfect. But I think the drugs really started to impact on him--the music post 86 or sostarted to die, the publicity fed his walllet and that was it-----real sad to watch someone decline like that, damn heroin. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 17:01:03 -0400 Subject: hum fenris: did it ever occur to you that maybe glenn didn't want people to know his real name for a reason? maybe because he didn't want every idiot and their brother calling up everyone in nj with that last name asking questions, harasing, or who knows, even showing up at his mom's house or something? or maybe he just didn't want you to know. just because you purchased albums and show tickets doesn't give you the right to go around making posters of his high school pictures to display in public. did you ever think about that? guess not. zzz: i suppose that was some kind of crack at glenn by kerry king? would you want to hear a slayer version of a misfits song? i know i wouldn't and i even like one or two of slayer's songs. bobby: really enjoyed your post. best of luck finding that drummer! yannis: read brent's post. i'm sure he's rolling in the $. yeah,right! it seems as though the "glenn sold out" thread was mentioned again. i won't say much because in the past mark has done a great job of defending the fact that glenn does things his way. D.EVIL ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.aonline.com Date: 13 May 1996 15:31:34 EDT Subject: Misfits Sighting In a TV Guide in Anchorage about 2 weeks ago there was a little thing about a movie that was gonna be on and i thad a picture. In the Picture the police were hauling some chick off and she was wearing a Misfits shirt. The Movie's called"Too Young to Die?" chris ------------------------------ From: Gouge3@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:37:56 -0400 Subject: Open up your minds... It never ceases to amaze me how closed people seem to change and variation in life. The Bible as of late has been a barage of shit about "Punk vs. Metal," "Glenn vs. Michale," "Majors vs. Independents," etcetera. Let me put it gently, fellow fiends, loosen the fuck up. It is all music. It's that simple...music. Why give a damn if Anthrax (a "metal" band) is playing with The Misfits (a "punk" band)? Fiends are complaining of headbangers coming to the show and ruining it. They are complaining about waiting in lines (a horror to us convenience-oriented Americans). They are being whiners. We are all fans of The Misfits' music, so we should all be happy that they are coming around at all. Who gives a fuck if it is with Sardonica, Neil Diamond, or Twisted Sister? The band that we spend so much time talking about on this mailing list is coming to our fucking towns!!!! Rejoice!!!! Put fucking earplugs in if you don't like the other bands. The Misfits haven't been around for over a decade. Take off the bra and enjoy the ride - whether it be an hour ride or a half hour ride. Glenn isn't there? Fuck it. Go or shut up. I can say this because I've been internally "fighting" the idea of the Kiss reunion. So it really won't be the same as 1977 (just like The Misfits aren't going to be the same as in 1983) - Big Fucking Deal. I'll go and enjoy it for what it is in 1996! This is a once in a lifetime chance. Rock N' Roll, Metal, Punk, Alternative, who gives a fuck. It is all HARD music that is constantly evolving. I know some of it may suck, it always will. There always will be the bands that never retire, the bands that play songs just to get on the radio, and the bands that rock on. Elvis, The Misfits, Nirvana. Not all the same - yet they are in a way. They are appealing to the people who love hard rocking music and pissing off all the rest. That is a beautiful thing. To David Aufox regarding the Chicago scene and The Thirsty Whale. I would hope that you would rephrase your comment from "that place is a joke" to "that place is NOW a joke." The reason I say this is because The Whale is a legend in its time. It has seen some of the greatest acts of all time come through there on upswings and downswings. It has given local bands a chance to showcase their act and get start somewhere. It has given my band, TERATA, a place we love to play with or without people. And let me say that it IS usually without people. The reason for that and the reason that The Whale is NOW "a joke" is because it SEEMS that many (not all) people do not suppport local bands around here. Don't tell me that is not true unless you are struggling in this town as a bandmember too. Unless you've played to the people who stare on bored (why the fuck to people come out to see a live band in the first place then?) and who only wanna hear covers, you won't understand. It is tough. And saying that "metal is crap" is bullshit. It is all hard music. If we don't support the local bands now, they will never become national. By the way, The Whale is "in the red." Well, not really - but it is closing June 6. They are selling and building a fucking Amoco (like we need another fucking gas station) because no one goes there anymore to support / check out local bands and I'm sure The Whale can't cover the overhead. I would still challenge you to give it one last chance. Come out and see Terata on May 25th - we'll even do a couple of Misfits covers. Let's all be happy for what we have here. Let's not categorize and rip people or The Misfits for what they do or believe. We are all humans trying to get along in life. Let's celebrate the fact that The Misfits' music is alive. Five years ago no one seemed to know who they were. If we don't support the band for what they are now (let go of the past and let's move forward) there nothing new to talk about in another ten years. Anyone wanna meet before the Chicago show? E-mail me. Check out the TERATA web page at: http://members.aol.com/wpages/terata/ter.htm Gouge has come ripping - thank you for your time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:35:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Jackal 138 Subject: Misfits in Louisville Hey Fiends, If anyone on the list will be at the Misfits show in Louisville, Ky let me know. I got my ticket this past weekend. It was $20.75, kinda jacked up from the former $12.50. That is not a complant, because I would have payed twice that. I guess Anthrax raised the Price. Well if you're going to the show let me know. Jackal 138 ------------------------------ Date: 13 May 96 20:30:44 EDT From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Copy of: Bible Post To Brent Eyestone - sorry (you Misfits fans are so sensitive). I saw the Misfits Detroit show this weekend and it rocked. I thought Flipp sucked, Sardonica was marginal, and the Misfits ruled. If anyone was there, I was one of 4 people that got a photo pass (thanks to Mark and Kenny). Not only did that allow me to take my camera in, but I got to stand inside the barricades (front row). I traded addresses with another guy taking pictures too. If anyone wants to trade trade photos get in touch. If anyone would like a show review for a zine (with photos) I would be glad to help out (Angry Red??). It was sold out here (that's over 1000 people at $15.50 per ticket)! The Misfits are finally getting the recognition that they deserve. Paul Holstein ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:52:51 EDT From: G Subject: Cincy show Can anyone give me information on the Louisville show with Anthrax? I'd like to meet them or get backstage or whatever. Thanks for any help, it is much appreciated. G I've been around since #12, I'll have to post more, we've got some interesting people on here. G (Galen Myers)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Stone Temple Pearl-vana Chains, now there's a helluva band. They've got that original ole sound that's sweepin' across the land."-Les "Because I feel disgrace, because you're all in my face"-B Boys "We are the fossils, the relics of our time"-Billy ~~~All traders welcome, I get new ones everyday!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:19:02 -0700 From: adam bodnar Subject: Kryst the Conqueror Just heard the Kryst the Conqeror EP for the first time and loved it! After reading all the complaints that the EP was a failure, I was dying to know what Kryst sounded like. To my surprise it was great! I like it so much I wish there were more tracks on it (the disc says limited edition EP {5 tracks}, was there ever a full length CD release that coincides with the lyric sheet on the web for the LP...anyone?). Anyway, true they don't sound like the Misfits, but as a completely different band, they're good. Fuck all of you who say that Jerry and Doyle failed. I think it was great that they made a come back. Thank the maker that they've brought the Misfits back from the grave too, the music scene has been very shitty for the past ten years and I hope that the new music that the Misfits release will redefine punk as it should be. Maybe the Misfits can kick some shit into these lame bands like Green Day and the like. Just a word to any new Misfits Bible viewers, if you should come across the Kryst EP...GET IT! If not for the music, then how about the fact that it was done by Jerry and Doyle. By the way, how many of us on the Bible have the first name ADAM. I think its a weird coincidence that there are quite a lot of Misfits fiends that post here whose first name is Adam. Maybe we should find out how many of us are out there. Diabolos '96 ******************************* Erotic sensations tingle my spine A dead body lying next to mine Smooth, blue, black lips I start salivating as we kiss - Slayer "213" ******************************* ------------------------------ From: CONLON@apsicc.aps.edu Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 22:33:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Misfits/Samhain/Danzig items wanted I am interested in purchasing the following: Danzig Upside Down Cross pendant (measures like 5" in length or so) Danzig Dagger (as seen on the how the gods kill video) Danzig Iron cross w/skull (I don't know if these were ever available to the public but i am very interested). I am also looking for promo photos of misfits, samhain, or danzig or any band items (such as guitar straps, skeleton gloves, etc..) If anybody has any of the above I will pay good money for them (maybe trade some stuff also). Thanks, -Zac (Braineatr) ------------------------------ From: UNDRMYN666@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 00:51:55 -0400 Subject: Bible post HI again Fiends. Whats up Neil?? I was glad to hear about the Anthrax opener. Kind of funny how a major label act is opening for a virtually DIY band. Im basking in it!!!! Too bad UNDERMINE (my awesome band) isn't opening any of the shows. We'd definately make a bigger impression than NIN, oh wait I mean Uranium 235, sorry! And as for Sardonica. They might as well have let the sound guy at Sub Zero's play his Corrosion of Conformity CD over and over again. Most of the crowd either left or just kept looking at their watches. ------------------------------ From: Tarry_Carapezza@dpc.senate.gov Date: Tue, 14 May 96 09:08:32 EST Subject: article In the current Details mag (the one with Nick Cage on the cover anyway) there is a review of the box set. The review is called something like "Noises in the Attic, a Details must listen". Strangly there is very little review of the actual songs, but a lot of poking fun of Glenn. Example, "Before he became 'Danzig- Lord of the Dark' he was just plan Glenn Danzig." Anyway, a piece of advice to fellow fiends. Buy your box set Now, before a bunch of yuppies decide it's a 'must have'. -Tarry ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 11:00:33 -0400 Subject: it was no mistake to play by the lake... ...the Cleveland show was great! I was pretty damn happy how everything turned out , the band was really tight - no intermissions between songs while Doyle tuned up like in the old days! Great energy! As for Michale , I'm still anxious to hear how he'll sound in the studio , but he cuts it live as far as I'm concerned. Not bad. Favorite part of the gig? The movie trailers at the start of the set!! Mark , I missed ya man! Was looking for that Mets cap....'nuff said , go see 'em!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 08:32:36 -0700 From: adam bodnar Subject: Wanted...Misfits Just a quick request. If there are any fiends out there who are willing to part with some Misfits/Samhain/Danzig/Kryst the Conqueror music on CD (boots included) and are in need of some money please e-mail me a list of items that you are willing to sell. I don't like using the bible for advertisements, but since I live in British Columbia, Canada it's the only way for me to locate CDs which are a pain in the ass to find out here. As well, any information on where I can purchase Misfits stuff (eg. mail order) would also be great. Hey Mark, there's an idea for Misfits Central. Have a list of music stores/mail order retailers posted for fiends who are having trouble locating these items. Later, Diabolos '96 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 11:48:41 +0000 From: Jake Starr Subject: ADAM WEST 7" New ADAM WEST/Bubblgum Christ split 7" EP now available! This is the last time I'm gonna post this to the bible! We pressed 500 total with 100 on red wax and 100 on white wax. They're almost all gone! If you want a colored wax copy, you gotta act now! Send $4.00 CASH in a sealed envelope to the address below and state which color you'd like. Next up is the "Halloween/She" / "Search & Destroy" fan club single limited to 200 on orange wax. Dig it! -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jake Starr/ADAM WEST * Fandango Records * 1805 T Street, NW #A * Washington, DC 20009-7128 * (202) 483-0065 * eMAIL: jyas@loc.gov * http://www.access.digex.net:80/~yield/adamwest.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 16:59:18 +0100 (BST) From: Jack Subject: *The shocking re-return of the MisFiTs* I had some flyers through the door the other day from Bradford Rio's and they have the Misfits scheduled to play on November 7th Can anybody confirm or deny this!!!! If it's happening, I'll see y'all there. Uncle Jack. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 11:45 CDT From: Mark Lerret Subject: Cleveland For those of you who missed the show in Cleveland, you have my sympathies... IT CRUSHED !! Sound quality was great, and they did just about everything. To be honest, I had some mixed feelings about the reincarnated Misfits, but not any more. Michale will never "replace" Danzig. Fortunately, this is not his job. He is the singer for the Misfits, which he did extremely well in Cleveland. I don't see him as trying to imitate Glenn; he was having fun and being himself. What would you expect...pink hair...glitter and sequins... perhaps the voice of King Diamond??? Some of the similarities between Glenn and Michale exist because it is the same band, with the same image. Over time, expect the differences to become more obvious. What about the new songs, are they metal crap?? NO, sounds like the Misfits to me. Are Jerry and Doyle too old for this?? Fuck no, those of you who were there know what I mean. Did the Static Age stuff get "metallized"?? No, it's just a different guitar sound. The BIG question...is this the Misfits, or a poor imitation?? My fellow fiends, they are back. Make no mistake. It seems that some people want the Misfits to change everything to be "original", but then criticize new songs, different guitar playing, or anything else which is not the same as the Misfits of old. Can you see the paradox? Extra special thanks to nike for helping with directions and hotels, hope you enjoyed the show as much as I did. Did anyone get a tape (aud or vid) of the show?? Let me know, and we'll work something out. Sorry for rambling, but at least I can spell and use the English language correctly ;) Mark Lerret lerret@vaxl1.danavictor.com "An example from the monkey: The higher it climbs, the more you see of it's behind." Saint Bonaventure (1217 - 1274) ------------------------------ Subject: some stuff Date: Tue, 14 May 96 13:04:21 EDT From: Blood Feast Well I guess I was wrong about "the Embalmer". Check out the poster, though. it's cool. I guess whoever made that poster ripped the claws off from the Undead. oooh I got a good sigting for ya. On june first I move into my new apartment with some other kids. My rent- $138 a month. bye Bloodfeast ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 13:12:25 -0400 From: She Subject: Confirmed Dates THE SHOCKING RETURN OF THE MISFITS (Anthrax opening) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 05/30/96 Baron's Beach Club Allentown, PA 05/31/96 Water St. Music Hall Rochester, NY 06/01/96 Newport Music Hall Columbus, OH 06/02/96 The Brewery Louisville, KY 06/03/96 Egyptian Room Indianapolis, IN 06/04/96 Bogart's Cincinnati, OH 06/06/96 The Mirage Minneapolis, MN 06/07/96 Riviera Theater Chicago, IL 06/08/96 Mississippi Nights St. Louis, MO 06/09/96 Cain's Ballroom Tulsa, OK There are about 30 other unconfirmed dates that I will have as they are announced. mark ------------------------------ From: Pudas13@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:41:35 -0400 Subject: Misfits/cannibal corpse/anthrax I heard that The misfits were going on tour with anthrax and cannibal corpse. Is this true? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 16:20:30 -0700 From: shifter Subject: Re: I'm Back Hey fiends, My e-mail has been screwed up for the past couple of weeks and I haven't been able to contribute to the bible. When I made my last post Chrimson Ghost went a little crazy about my reply to him. He then wrote that he'd never post on the bible again, however he still wanted to read the bible after he disgraced it. Now I see he is regularly posting again. Well CG, since I know that you are reading this all I have to say to you is: How can you complain about me supposedly "flaming" you AND THEN you go off and "flame" someone else? Now CG if you reply (which I hope you don't) please have a SOLID answer, no cussing like we've all seen before. I've been looking at the bible shirts and they seem kinda weak. Hopefully somebody can find a cool design. I must commend the work of the Misfits of getting Anthrax to headline for them, that will for sure increase the ticket sales. RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MISFITS: Get on the HOWARD STERN show and you will have an audience bigger than ever. If anyone has information on the new DANZIG album please e-mail me about it. Shifter I have wandered my whole life long The night becomes my bride and everything else must die World without end, For me ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 21:07:42 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Cleveland and Comments fiends, Well I made the trek to the Cleveland show (From VA) and it was all worth it! Mark already gave his take on the show so Ill just add to it. Well I met up with some fiends from the Bible and IRC#, Nike, Chewbacca, and Misfitt(now known as Dirt). I really wanted to see this show as it was the last of the tour, and Larry the Wolf was going to be there! What a show, Mark was right We are 138 was insane! It was great to see all those people up on stage. Im am sad to see that Sardonica will be gone for the next tour. I really am gonna miss those guys. They were always very grateful to the misfits, they got on stage played their ass off and got off. The Misfits were great Michale was in complete form, diving into the crowd from about 20 feet up on the amps. He would climb across the barrier into the crowd, as did Jerry extending his arm to the fans. Well to the people who have complained about the show and the level of Michales voice. If you are in the crowd and banging around I found it hard to hear him, but I ended up by Mark at the end of the at the side of the stage and I could hear the vocals perfectly. This show was better then the Asbury park show, and the sound was the best of the 3 shows I was at (the show at ziggys will always be my favorite). Michale sounds really great and I cant wait to get the blacklight 45. After the show we all hung around and talked to the band and Larry The Wolf. Larry had a great time and thanked everyone for showing up. Nike and I got a chance to talk Michale about the people who rag on him and say he is a cheap Glenn imitation. He said that Glenn is great and he is doing new things, and that he has no beef with Glenn but the band has got to move on without him. All in all I think this was the best they played off three shows I saw. *To the guys who got sick at the Stone Pony: I got sick also, as did the people I went with, and so did big John Grimm! So I guese there was a bug going around. *To Brent Eyestone: Dont listen to that guy! I am one who has read all the back issues and remember the conception of your tape. You and EVB got together and gathered the best quality video from first generation copies. So good as a matter of fact that bootleggers used your tape to sell as a boot! I have never seen any Misfits video for less then $20, so this guy objecting to your price is absurd! You are doing everybody a service and just ignore people like that. It sure seems like people here seem to get off more on starting controversy, then getting information and having a serious discussion. I have wanted your tape from the first time I read about it (but you had already stopped distributing it), and now I have no cash. But what you are doing is a great service. That is what is great about the bible a fiend should not have to buy another bootleg again, because almost all the boots are owned by someone on this list. So we can get copies and save some cash. Thats my take on the situation, and on be half off all the people who have laid down serious cash (which they dont have) for boots, and have gotten ripped off, Thank you Thats all for now, D-Rod Blood is The Harvest! ------------------------------ From: PDH1021@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 22:00:43 -0400 Subject: Eerie's Band Eerie's band will be playing on Friday, May 17th at "Connections" in Clifton, NJ. I believe the address is 503 Van Houghton Avenue. I highly recommend it! PDH ------------------------------ From: HBKBOBA@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 22:24:17 -0400 Subject: Goodbye lovelys... I saw the MisFiTs live. I sang w/Michel Graves. I got a guitar pick. I got autographs on everything. Jerry drwe a little mustahe on Glenn in my LegasyOf Burtality CD. The show kicked my ass! I will not have America Online for now till about Fall '96. So bye to all you guys. A few things: 1. I will check up on you at my fiends houses so dont slack off 2. stop using the bible to sell your stuff, this is'nt a rummage sale 3. 138 divided by 2= dinner for 4. 4. MisFiTs Rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Inbreeders ======== Insest goin on in every home you feel your mom it makes you your dad turn angry red because next time you cant fake it next thought ejaculation givin head is all you wanna know whoa oh oh inbreeders whoa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 96 00:08:07 -0700 From: SBird@L2.lonet.ca (Sheila Bird) Subject: misfits toronto show may 10 96 here's some intresting news from canada, apparently the this was there first canadian show ever! and it was quite interesting. first of all they did about atwo and half hour set and Micheal graves seem to fill danzig's shoe pretty well, but the highlight the night was when this moron got on stage and pretended to do graves up the ass, then graves jumped on the pit after the guy. scurity pulled the both of them back on the stage and all hell broke loose. Doyle and Jerry both dropped there guitars and went after the idiot.two minutes later they started playing agian and as the battered kid was thrown out on ass. if you would like to here more about this show E-mail me attn:growth bye:( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 03:05:17 -0400 From: She Subject: Studio Time The Misfits are entering the studio today (the 15th) and will be recording new material until the 17th. Most of it will appear on the Black Light single. That's all. Mark ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 179 Friday, May 17th 1996 Today's Topics: Blacklight misfit video Misfits boot Misfits Videos great mag! RE: Misfits Re: Misfits Bible, #178 Crimson Ghost Comments... Think about this Re: Misfits Bible, #178 Allentown show Re: Misfits Bible, #178 Misfits in A-Town?!? rebuttal Providence, Boston, and beyond... Detroit Show Cleveland, Columbus, Devilock, and Kryst TIMES SQUARE UPDATE Glenn Danzig sings THE MISFITS tunes!!! + more Misfits and Type O CLEVELAND SHOW They all change their names to Chicago... Cleveland review in Scene Magazine Cleveland... my 2 cents ATTENTION! Now Hear This! Detroit Show and various stuff Cleveland free your mind and your ass will follow Got it fixed... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:07:20 -0400 (EST) From: Tyler Buckmaster Subject: Blacklight The Toronto SHow Rocked!! I was front stage right in front of Jerry the whole time...Michale came up to me about 4 or 5 times and held the mike to me...He gave it to me when he was doing 'Come Back' and I sang alone...he then smiled and rubbed my head like i did good!!!! *it was fucking unbelieveable* ...my girlfriend got hit in the cheek with the end of Doyles guitar and also with Mikes crotch...I am now showing her off to all of my fiends going "do you know who did this?"...I've heard so many stories on why that kid got the shit kicked outta him but I heard this from Chud and the guy doin t shirts...He was stage diving and giving people elbows and stuff then came onstage, grabbed the mike from Michale and dove off..so Mike went after him.... I yelled Glenn who to Mike and he looked at me and winked and mumbled something about him being back home in Hollywood...I then screamed for Blacklight and he smiled and said calm down its coming up!... It was great! And to top it all off we saw this dead guy about 3 hours before the show lying in the middle of the road...He apparently got hit by a cab on his bike... Sorry for the long post but I'm still excited and its been 5 days.. 'sup Forkboy! CAiN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:11:03 -0400 (EST) From: Tyler Buckmaster Subject: misfit video I have a misfit video and was hoping that someone (Mark/CG) could give me any info on it...it seems to be a cable network show called 'Why be something you're not" its only about 25 mins long... The main reason I ask is because Glenn introduces himself as Glenn Whittman.. Its filmed in Detroit and they are touring in promotion of Earth A.D. If anyone wants a copy Email and I'll get one to ya...But I warn its not the best quality.... Lates CAiN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 17:27:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dalkiel Subject: Misfits boot If Michale doesn't fill up Glenn's shoes, doesn't that make him a misfit? Haha. The reason for the post is a boot I've bought, its called 'Heros of Danzig'. I couldn't find anything about it on the Web page, what I am wondering about is the date, it says that it was recorded in -91, but the Misfits passed on in -83, right? And yea, its Misfits alright, they tune the strings between every song, and the lineup is Glenn/Jerry/Doyle/Robo. Can anybody help me out on this one? Dalkiel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 05:27:30 -0400 Subject: Misfits Videos From: Adrock@usa.pipeline.com (Brent Williamson) Would anyone who has any Misfits videos please email me and tell what it would take for me to get a copy.I had that Why be Something your not video but it got lost/stolen by a friend. Email me at Adrock@usa.pipeline.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:47:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jolanta C Biniek Subject: great mag! hi, just wanted to gush about Angry Red. i just got the first 2 issues. they'r great. in case you'r wondering what you get there that you can't on the bible... lots more pictures :) if you liked the pics from the box set or the ones in Ugly Things, you'll go for these. highly recommended! -jolanta c. biniek http://shrike.depaul.edu/~jbiniek ps. and send keith more misfits art! pps. in the Jerry interview, he said Eerie was talking behind his back... ??!!??. anybody know anything about this? i find it hard to believe. ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 17:45:00 GMT0BST Subject: RE: Misfits First, I said that BOTH Jerry and Glenn were *integral* (nice fucking touch) to a true Misfits line up. But as far as sound goes bass can be immitated a lot better than vocals. And if its not a "True Misfits Reunion" why call it the Misfits. There are plenty of tribute bands out there that I enjoy, but they don't call themselves the name of the band they are impersonating. This is what Jerry and Doyle are doing, impersonating the Misfits. They found Michale Graves: a guy who "sounds like a young Glenn" as Mark put it. Second, I've NEVER looked upon Glenn as God. He does have a fantastic voice, but it is true that the concept of the Misfits is not as profound as that of say Fugazi. And I have always told people that the Misfits were a shitty band that I love. He may not be a *great innovator*, but he has an extreme amount of talent musically and in taking influences, stringing them together, and creating an image which results in something cool. He's done it three time, in three very different bands which all turned out fucking cool (well, I only like the first Danzig album). We all try to make our arguements sound so simple. I say that people should be aware that the New Misfits are NOT the Misfits. And I was dissappointed when I saw them. Not only because of the sound, but because of the short set and the over-exageration of the old image. However, I would go to see them again because it would be fun. But this time I'll be prepared for what I'm to see. So I guess there is a contradiction. Third, you criticised EVB's obsession with Danzig. Well, you're obviously obsessed with something: you post more garble on this list than anyone. I'm not saying to keep your opinions to yourself, but you give your opinions in such a malicious fashion. Often you are outright rude. Your debates would be taken more seriously if they were less personal. Also, you don't like the Misfits that much? You can think of 30 better bands? Even if that's true, even if your only here to defend your friend Jerry, it's a stupid thing to say on a list where most everyone else LOVES the Misfits. In other news: The Misfits are playing Mississippi Nights in St. Louis, MO? That show will NOT happen. The police will be there so quick, the Misfits won't even take the stage. I went to see a punk show there last June I think (I can't remember who because they didn't go on) and the police threw everybody out, nobody got a refund, and it was quite tame compared to the shows I've seen in LA and Santa Barbara. Mark, maybe you should let Jerry know so he can prevent a mishap like this. Dr. ADP,MD Proctology ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #178 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 13:52:00 -0400 (EDT) > From: Matt Becker > > I attended both the detroit and cleveland shows and would have to disagree > about the cleveland being the best. I thought it was a crappy little show > full of almost 60% little pop > radio listening lossers. Jerry had to ask if people knew the songs, he had >to introduce the > songs over and over, people didnt know the lyrics for the songs; and over > all, it really seemed > like a show that was hyped up by trendy little radio stations drawing in Hmm. Well, I did specify that it was the the best of the 3 shows I attended, none of which were the Detroit show. I did notice that the Cleveland crowd consisted of a lot of younger people, like 7th-10th graders or something, and they did seem to be a little dull. However, I don't think the crowd mattered at that show. Everything else was so perfect... good point though. The Cleveland crowd was by far the least excited and they really didn't sing along with the tunes the way the Richmond and DC people did. Also, one other cool thing about the Cleveland show - Michale changed the lyrics to "Children In Heat" to say "They all changed their names to Cleveland." **MISFITS NEWS** Remember to check out the movie Animal Room this summer - it's got some scenes with The Misfits. Also, this summer the following Misfits merchandise will be available at the shows: 6-7 different shirt designs, posters, stickers, Lucanae magazine featuring a Misfits interview, and... the Blacklight 7" might be available for the second half of the tour. mark ------------------------------ From: "Lowe, Thomas B." Subject: Crimson Ghost Comments... Date: Wed, 15 May 96 14:17:00 PDT >From: Crimson Ghost >Subject: When I'm wrong I always admit it! > >As far as Glenn being more "Integral" than Jerry, that's a big crock of >shit. Maybe you should do as I did and talk to some more people that were >around back then. Maybe then you would realize that; had it not been for >Jerry pushing Glenn all the way there would never have been a Misfits. I've >come to understand more of where Glenn's coming from these days, that's why >I no longer post bad criticisms of the man. It's not that I agree with him, >it's just that I understand more of why he is what he is. I don't care who you call yourself, how long you've been on the list and who you think you are, you are not selling me this bridge. Glenn IS a more integral part of the Misfits than Jerry because he wrote ALL the songs. Say what you want about him not playing the music, he's just the singer, Jerry pushed Glenn, blah, blah, blah....forget it. The Misfits is whatever Glenn made them. I don't wanna sound like Jerry wasn't important, he was....they wouldn't have been the same band without him. But trying so hard to make Jerry sound like an equal is just a joke. >As far as putting a great importance on Glenn's voice..... That's laughable, >he's an ok vocalist, and a mediocre songwriter at best. Let's not make him >into some sort of musical god, he's not. One thing I can't stand is when >people talk about him like he's some kind of great innovator. He didn't >originate *anything* he took alot of influences and strung them together to >make something pretty damn cool. The music is fun, it's garage rock that's >what attracts me to it, nothing more. It's raw, it's exciting, it's fun, not >profound, not awe inspiring. C'mon, are you a Misfits fan or are you just trying SO hard to give these fake Misfits more credibility then they are getting. I saw them, Michale is a good singer but he tries his hardest to BE Glenn. He's not. Glenn's voice is Glenn's voice, no matter who people like to compare him with (Jim Morrison, Elvis, ect.). He had a great voice for the Misfits since he could actually sing melodies unlike most punk rockers. Glenns writing has matured since the Misfits and I like what he's done with Danzig more than I do the Fits. But some really cool stuff came out of that man's head in whatever band he's been in. As for Glenn being a great innovator.....well, maybe not to you but he is whatever anyone wants to make out of him. If someone listens to him and thinks he's the second coming of...Satan, well, then that's a person's opinion. Go back to any band or any musician and they were influenced by someone else. Nobody just wakes up and creates new sounds out of thin air. So for being innovative, well, he took his influences and made something a bit different and cool. That's as innovative as anyone can be in music. You have your opinions and other's have theirs. You don't think he's a musical god, that's on you, pal. If I wanna think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, then he is.....to me. > Face it the Misfits are one of the best lousy bands in the world. Couldn't have said this better myself. Bottom line, your just a fan like everyone else. Your no more an authority than I and your words hold no more weight than anyone elses. I respect the fact that you do know your stuff about the band, there's no denying that. But, to act as if what you say about Glenn or the Misfits, is the way it is cause you said it, no way. Unholy Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 14:14:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Ed Sulzbach Subject: Think about this Yeah acually EvilDieff I did think about that and I really don't care. Do you think Dave Brockie or Casey Orr or any of the other guys from Gwar get pissed when people who know their real names start chanting them before shows? No, they don't give a shit. I seriously doubt after seeing that picture anyone got the idea to call up everyone in the phone book with that last name. So whatever it doesn't matter. I just thought he over reacted but it doesn't matter I enjoyed it. ------------------------------ From: "Roger Holmes" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:17:33 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #178 I wish everybody would shut up about the Misfits "metalizing" the old tunes. I thought everything sounded great at the shows I saw. As for them touring with Anthrax, I think it's cool. Anthrax too me has always been a band that did not take themselves too seriously. I mean, they wrote songs about cool shit (like Judge Dredd) and just seemed to be having fun. Kinda like the Misfits. Hopefully it will maintain a club like atmosphere and everyone will just have a good time. As for that guy that said Michale looked like Wolverine with his hair all up on the sides, I agree. I thought that when I saw them In Danbury and Im kept that image in mind when I worked on a couple of my drawings. Lastly, does anyone know what is going to be on the flipside of the Blacklight single? I think it would be cool to have Michale sing "theme for a Jackal" by himself like in rehearsal and put that on, Just to prove to the idiots out there he is not just some Glenn wannabe but has his own distinct voice. Roger Holmes or, the guy formerly know as "Angelfuck" I was having an identity crisis so I droped the handle. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Ed Sulzbach Subject: Allentown show Is anyone going to be at the Allentown show on the 30th? Allentown is kind of my home town so if so I'll see you there. ------------------------------ From: HBKBOBA@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 16:05:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #178 Looks like I wont be leaving after all. Michel Graves is awesome Doyle is a lot better Jerry is'nt fat, he's just shorter than the rest of them Chud is nice too ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:14:50 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: Misfits in A-Town?!? wow, i can't believe they are playing allentown... its only a half hour from my house... compaired to 4 hours to RI and 3 hours to lancaster... i'll actually spend more time at the show then on the road! the only problem is that baron's sucks donkeys... it was cool a few years ago when it was the zodiac, but i went there last year to see the ramones... the "beach club" is a stage at one end and a raised bar on a deck at the other with an empty lot filled with sand in the middle... it really sucks last time i went there were 2 or 3 hundred or so jock-fratboy assholes... not to muntion that i ended up taking home 5 pounds of dirty wet sand... in my hair my clothes my boots my car everywhere... oh, yeah they have really tight security there and won't let anything in at all... no spikes no wallet chains, no large bunches of keys nothing... also there is nowhere to park so everyone has to park illegally on the side of the street and usually walk like a half mile to the club... well hope to see some of you there...i'll be wearing my astro zombies t shirt... also mark if the misfits need a place to stay or help putting up flyers i have no problems with any of that... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 96 18:46:11 MDT From: "Cadet Kyle J. Pumroy, x4748" Subject: rebuttal hello, This is my rebuttal to some things Crimson Ghost said last issue and then I will be finished with the matter. -I think it's funny that you consider me the biggest asshole on the list after criticizing one person (you) in over a year and a half. -Most people I think are assholes think I'm one as well. Doesn't bother me. -"Suck my ass" that's pretty grown up. -It was admirable for you to apologize to EVB for things said. Kinda even changed my opinion of you. -I did appreciate the information you gave out when I first joined this list, but since then you haven't really given us anything other than arguing and putting down other peoples opinions and tastes. -It is true I didn't know shit when I joined this list, but I'd had my copy of Walk Among Us for 4 years before that. I had no friends who liked them other than the drummer of my band's older brother. He worshipped the misfits, and here's some things he told me about them: "They decided to break up after their drummer died, that's why there's a coffin instead of him on my poster" (think it was the evilive poster), "Danzig decided he didn't want to play with his brothers anymore and started Samhain." He even tried telling me he was going to a reunion concert of their's (this was in '93 I think). I don't know what I'm getting at anymore except that just because I didn't know shit didn't mean that I had just started listening to the band or that I hadn't tried to find out what I could. -so I joined this group (thanks to EVB's post on the Danzig news group) and found out everything I ever wanted to know about my favorite band, but I really don't recall any help from you. I do recall Mark and EVB emailing me personally to answer some of my dumb questions (which I could have found on the web page if I had had access to it) as well as answering some on the list. And after that, EVB was always keeping us informed about Danzig, his shows, what he was doing etc. Meanwhile you were arguing with some guy about god knows what (since I never read more than the first sentence of your posts anyway). -Sorry if you didn't like my saying you were no loss, but you were the one who left (for four days). And again that's my opinion. Did you expect everybody to get upset and try to talk you out of it? I don't think I would be any loss either if I left, or anybody else on this list other than Mark. I think you need to deflate your ego and realize that: we're all misfits fans, you expended all your inside knowledge of the misfits long ago, and that we all have different tastes and yours are no better than anyone else's. to everybody else -sorry I took so much space. -I'm driving 10 hours to see the misfits it Indianapolis (leave for Europe the day after), I'll have an old faded Crimson Ghost (how ironic) T-shirt on so come say hi. later kyle p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 20:52:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ellen L. Krueger" Subject: Providence, Boston, and beyond... Hey fiends, Sure is my first post. Sure took a while for me to have something to say, and it's a little scary out here. But anyway... I know they were a while ago, but here's my sad story anyway. I was all set to go to the Providence show (2 hour drive, no problem) but then alla th' sudden my ride had a make-up lacrosse game, and i guess we know where his priorities are. We didn't get to go and figured it was a big loss, but we could just catch the Boston Show instead. But we were oh, so wrong. Too bad they sold out. Too bad that I won't be home this summer at all. (I'd love a collective "Aww...." from everyone reading this...) So here's the deal, I'm a little broken-hearted about Missing the 'Fits and more than mad that it was such a lame reason we didn't go. If anyone has any kind of stuff or really good stories or anything, please mail me so I can feel like I was kinda there or something. Thanks. "Sometimes you call me an asshole, sometimes you're an asshole too. Eventhough we're filled with imperfections, I don't think any less of you" -DB Love & stuff, LEK ------------------------------ From: MR ERIK M LINDBERG Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 21:26:07, -0500 Subject: Detroit Show Here's what I've got to say about the show: - The drumset was way cool, in a cheesey b-movie way, but I never did see Chud - The band sounded good, and I thought the vocals were loud enough. - The posters sold out. Blast! - I liked the opening bands, except for Sardonica. Every one of their songs sounded the same. The guitars would go "chugga chugga chugga" and then Sal B would yell "Blaaarg" and then they'd do it again...and again...and again. The only way I could tell when a song was over was when they'd yell "All Riiiiiiiiiight!" -Flip was funnier than a motherless goat. -Just about fifty too many guys wearing red braces. Here's my story: Well, I set out to the pit. I knew it would be pretty rough, but hack, it was the Misfits, right. So my friends and I wade through the crowd until we're right up front. The pit explodes behind us in some kind of music-induced fury. So, we're gettin' punched in the back and stuff, but it was okay. Eventually, I leave the pit and watch the rest of the great show uneventfully. Upon leaving, one of my friends tells me I've got some blood on my back. So what, I think. So, I drive home, take off my sweatshirt, and if the whole back of the thing isn't dripping red! After three washes, it's back to normal, but now the patches are all wrinkled... End of story, Death came ripping... -Chubbs ********* Sigless as ever ***************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 02:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS Subject: Cleveland, Columbus, Devilock, and Kryst Hey Fiends! The Cleveland show kicked my ass! Already been reviewed, nuff said. However, I do have a couple of questions for Mark, that I'm sure others will want to hear the answers to, so I'm posting them here. Mark, when Doyle threw his armbands into the crowd, was this an every gig thing or just the Cleveland show because it was the last date on this leg? Because, if he does it all the time, doesnt that mean that they have a lot of them and could be selling them like everybody wants. The first one he throws, hits this kid right next to me in the face and at the same time I go to grab for it, i get nailed in the nose with someones's elbow. It still hurts. They also threw some drum heads into the crowd. Just wondering, cause if I could get two armbands to use on stage with Devilock it would rock my nads. Also, Mark, are you going to the Columbus or Cincinnati shows? If you are, I gotta meet up with you. I'm sure some other Ohioans would like to meet you too. Next bit of business. Devilock will be playing in Columbus on May 30th, two days before the Fits as kind of a "get ready for the real thing" gig. It will only cost around 3$ and we'll be playing some tunes the Misfits dont usually play live, as Mark has said. It'll be fun. Try us out. Or at least come and shout obscenities at us. Anyone interested in directions to the Fits show on the 1st or our show info, e-mail me. And before the flames start from anyone who doesnt know the lowdown about the legalities of Devilock and how the Fits or Danzig feel about us, e-mail me first, I'll answer all your questions. Please dont jump to conclusions. Finally, I have to agree whole heartedly with Adam Bodnar....The more I listen to my Kryst CD, the more I like it. It's a good CD! I mean, a little cheesy here and there and I could do without the God references (just ask Teevie for insite on that) but there are some cool riffs and catchy stuff on there. Anyway, the whole debate about metal, it's pointless. There is and always will be a following for metal, as seen on this list alone. (help me out here Mark, Gouge) If you dont like it, you dont like it. I can live with that. I dont like certain forms of music but I'm definitely not gonna get on here and put people down for liking other forms of music that dont fit my tastes. Doyle, himself plays in a metal style. And the static age stuff live. I wouldnt call it metal or punk. It's just got more "CRUNCH" as I like to put it. Just thought I'd add my two cents in defense of metal. Mark, 17th row for the Kiss reunion tour in Cleveland. Not bad huh? Later, The Noss Devilock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 00:58:45 -0400 From: Bobby Steele <104600.2577@compuserve.com> Subject: TIMES SQUARE UPDATE Hey Fiends, Just a reminder that TIMES SQUARE will be playing at THE RED ROOM, 496 Ninth Ave. NYC,NY this SAturday, May 18th at 10PM. I you come to this show, be sure to come up and say HI. I turned in the color separations for the 45 sleeve today, and the lyric sheet/insert should be done tomorrow. I think we're looking at a mid-June release. We just booked a show in Philadelphia for July 6t, at ULANA'S. We're looking for more gigs for the summer, so if anyone out there can give us a hand, email me. Now for my response to Paul Hahn; >this is to bobby. well how do you purpose >putting a quarentine on those w/ HIV/AIDS? unless most people come out >and tell ta, how are you gonna know? mandatory testing? i somehow don't >think this country is quite that close to 1984, I never said I was an expert. You may not realize this, but AIDS is the first disease of such a deadly magnatude that has not been treated with a quarantine. TB was virtually erradicated around the turn of the century - thanks to quarantines. There have been others too.When I was in school, it was mandatory to be tested for TB. Guess what...nobody protested. Nobody cried about their 'right to privacy'. It was a public health issue. Certain people decided that they could exploit a political cause through AIDS. For this reason, we have not been able to treat it as the disease it is, because it would be discrimination. A proper quarantine would be beneficial for people with AIDS. They wouldn't be exposed to YOUR flu - which would most likely kill them. They actually might be able to live longer - long enough for a cure to come their way. Enough people have died already. Most of my friends are dead -including at least two of my former girlfriends. How many more have to die. We'd need to get together some medical experts and set up a policy. Quarantine can be in your own home. We put rich criminals in 'country club' prisons; why can't we provide that kind of clean, safe, humane environment for people who are ill. I think that would be more fair than giving it to crimnals. Of course, if you're a prostitute, or a junkie and have shown yourself to be a threat to others it would be a different playing field. But with the way ACT UP is handling the situation, they're just helping to spread AIDS. I don't have all the answers - DAMNIT JIM, I'm a guitar player, not an epidemiologist. I just figure there oughta be some kind of incentive that can be offered to get people to voluntarily quarantine themselves (free rent, the best food, recreational facilities, quality nursing staff, recording studios, art studios...whatever can make PWA's lives as easy as possible -and fulfilling). It'd beat the hell out of living in the street, eating garbage, and just trying to survive every day - which is the kind of desperation I see my friends going throuhg every day. Like I said before; it's just my opinion. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:23:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fonz=E9us?= Subject: Glenn Danzig sings THE MISFITS tunes!!! + more Hi Fiends! What's up? My name is Sebastian, I'm from Sweden and I've posted a coupple of times before. Some days ago my friend Henrik, who is a *BIG* METALLICA fan, and I went to a recordshop here in Malmoe where I live. He found a bootleg CD called "Covering 'Em vol 2" with METALLICA and guess what I discovered: Medley: a)London Dungeon b) Last Caress c) Green Hell (6.32) [Jam with DANZIG at the World Amphitheater in Chicago, Il, July 3rd '94] Yes! I don't know if anyone ever have written this before in the Misfits Bible, I haven't read it anyway! I had to buy it - and so i did. The quality is average but most important, Glenn Danzig sang all the songs!!! I can send anyone who wants a clip of some of the songs in a "wav" file. It ripped but in Green Hell...well let's say it got a little bit out of hand! Yesterday I went to see one of the "biggest" Hardcore acts in Sweden, REFUSED. They're a Straight Edge band and i guess that someone at the Misfits Bible have heard 'em. Well anyway, I have a fanzine called Digital Rundgang (something like "Digital Feedback" in english) and I interviewed REFUSED. After about 1 hour and 30 minutes of talking we got to the subject MISFITS, the guys had seen THE MISFITS on their European tour in Berlin (Germany) some months ago. Their review of the concert was something like this: David = drummer, very talkative! Dennis = singer Dennis: "When we went to the place we thought we would see a cover band but we were wrong. When the shit started everybody went fucking apeshit! I just stood there with open mouth and starred." David: "I was in the pit, "slam-dancing" and "poging" like an asshole. Imagine "Death Comes Ripping", my favourite song. I got paralyzed and then went on "poging" Dennis: "The new singer kicks ass, he sings like a god! They played all their songs, it was just so great!!!" David: We will play a 15 song set of MISFITS covers in our hometown Umea calling ourselves ------ (I won't tell you the name...). It's like a tribute. Later I asked if they could play a MISFITS-song or anything on thier concert later that evening and the answered "What do you wanna hear?". Well what do you answer on a question like that? I said "I Turned Into A Martian" and "Death Comes Ripping". The REFUSED concert started around 11 p.m. and guess which song they started with... "Death Comes Ripping"!!! My friends and I (as well as the rest of the crowd) went nuts, we got up on stage and helped them out with some backing vocals! It was a blast and there was an audience of about 500 people. When it was time for the encores, the singer Dennis Lyxzen, turned around and shaped a Devilock with his hair. He leaned over the audience and said: "our next song is called Astro Zombies" 1-2-3-go! After that once again 1-2-3-go and "Horror Hotel" was the name of the song! Three (3) fuckin' MISFITS covers. I was in heaven. I can't imagine how i will feel if i'll ever come to a *REAL* MISFITS concert, but I'm sure it will be a blast! I really hope that THE MISFITS will come to Sweden on their next European tour, maybe to the town called Lund! Here's a lot of folks that like THE MISFITS! Well, I hope I haven't bored you fiends! See ya Greetings Sebastian Fonzeus ---------------------------------------- e-mail: ronny.fonzeus@mailbox.swipnet.se ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 16:51:02 -0400 Subject: Misfits and Type O Maybe this is old news. But, according to Pete Steele, Jerry approached him a few years back and asked him to sing for Kryst the Conquerer. Since then they've remained friends, and that's how the friendship started. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 17:10:46 -0400 From: "Joan L. Sauer" Subject: CLEVELAND SHOW First of all, this is Horror Businessman, Aaron, coming at ya from another address. Alrighty, I know I'm a little late with this, but oh well. My girlfriend and I headed up at 4 hoping to catch the sound check but the owner of the Odeon was an asshole and wouldn't let anyone in. Then Chud walked by and I told him to tell Jerry I was a Bible member. Boom, we got in just like that. He walked us to the stage and helped us up. Then we met Jerry. He was out of uniform so I really didn,t recognize him right away. He was sitting in sweats stringing up his bass. He asked us what we thought of the set-up, which was incredible. They had a huge tombstone in front of the bass drum that said MISFITS in lighted red letters. They had a huge Hooded CG backdrop and Doyle had 8 CG painted amps. Jerry told me he usually has em three high. Then he let me play with the new skull on his bass...it is a cyclops. He told me he made it. That was pretty cool. Their guitars are really unique and space age. They gave us free stickers and were really chill about the whole thing. Jerry asked me if anything was new on the Bible and I told him just a bunch of good concert reviews. He seemed really happy with how everything was goin and was tremendously nice. I was so awe struck that I forgot to get his autograph and a picture...fuckin a that pisses me off now. Then we had to leave cause the owner was gettin pissed. Chud walked us out. Then Doyle came out to the bus to get some crap. I think I was the only person to recognize him out of attire. I swear every person associated with the Misfits that night was in a sweat shirt and sweat pants...they all had some type of NY GIANTS logo, too. He signed my ticket and my girlfriend's shirt. Damn he has a cool signature, but he really didn't utter a word. He didn't even know who they were playing with that night. When Chud saw his autograph he said we were real lucky because he doesn't usually sign anything. Then Chud came out again to chat, but he had to go back for sound check. He said they'd be playing every song but Hellhound, Demonomania, Ratt Fink, CC, and Spook City...liar. He told me he listens to Karen Black and DInosaur Jr. Then Larry the Wolf came to the door. He was all slick and dressed in a jump suit. Once he said he was Larry I made the connection. We chatted for a bit then he went in. Then after the check, he came out and I asked what songs he'd be doing. He said Astro Zombies, Hatebreeders and We Bite. Jerry came out to get his boots, which are very large and spiked. He seemed to be in a rush so he didn't really say much then. Finally around 7 they let us in. The first band-FLIPP- sucked so bad people wouldn't even say they sucked. They got spit on and booed to death. Then Jerry came out, half dressed to introduce Sardonica. HJe yelled "CLEVELAND, SARDONICA!" Then took off. Sal B. passed out stickers beforehand. They sounded like a softer Agnostic Front/SOD mix. I saw Doyle sittin on side stage takin some pics of them. Damn he looked happy. Then afetr them Michale Graves came down to the front row and told us if we wanna get on stage to do it. He said if we reach out our hand he'd pull us up. Only one person got on because there is a five foot gap between the stage and barrier. Then they lowered the Movie screen and played five minutes worth of Horror flick clips while Halloween II was playing in the background. That was fuckin cool. Then they came on, bustin out with Halloween. Every one rushed the front, squishing little old me. It was soooo fuckin intense. The pit was huge and hard, but no fights broke out which surprised me. Plenty of mohawks though, and no skins...hurray! They played every song but CC, Ratt Fink, Who Killed Marilyn, Spook City, Earth AD (that pissed me off), WolfsBlood, Demonomania, Hellhound, We Bite and Theme for a Jackal. It was amazing. EVERYONE was singing along and throwin their fists up. Larry the Wolf sang Astro, and Hatebreeders. Then Sal B, Ronnie Paci, Larry, and some guy in a Frankenstein mask sang 138. It was chaos. I felt like I was at a Biohazard show. Then Doyle tripped over somethin and landed on his back, but did'nt miss a beat...but he stayed down for half the song. I have never seen Doyle move around and smile so much. He and Michale would look at each other and laugh every minute. First he was on one side then he ran to the other. Jerry was his usual energetic self. Michale was everywhere, in the crowd, on top of the amps, in the pit, on the crowd. You name it. I really couldn't see Chud cause his set was so massive. I have never seen the Misfits enjoy themselves so much on stage. They were laughin, smiling at the cameras (The show was videotaped, but will it ever be released?) jumpin aroung, screaming, fisting. Damn it was cool. Then during Queen Wasp, someone threw a coat and it landed on Doyle's head. He couldn't see a thing, but didn't stop playing. Some guy took it off. That was really funny. After Mommy.., Michale said Happy fuckin Mothers Day. Then Michale said "This one is Bullet" then he looked at Doyle and said "Don't forget it" or something like that. That really made the big guitarman smile. They then left the stage and did their EAD encore. WOW! That was absolutely great. Really hard. After the show they sat on stage and signed anything that came their way. DOyle threw out his armbands, Frankenstein choker and Chud threw out three autographed drum heads...which he showed me before the show. The new songs are really good. One sounds like NOTLD. I can't wait to Black Light comes out. Chud said you can only get it thru the Fiend Club and at shows. Jerry said they'd be back in a month with Anthrax. Chud never heard of Anthrax but he asked if they were a long hair band. He is so funny. SO here is my total, person by person report: Michale-Incredible. He really knows how to get the crowd into it and can hold his own up there. Lookin good. Jerry-Big, funny and nice. Never missed a beat. Has the same intensity as 13 years ago, and he let me play with his cyclops skull. Still amazing on and off stage. Doyle-Quiet, reaaaaaaalllllllyyyy big and mean lookin. I noticed he wasn't down picking as much as he used to, but he did manage to break a shitload of strings. He also pounded on his guitar alot. Maybe he was just tired. Either way he kept on goin strong. Nothing seemed to distract him. He was really movin and smiling. Maybe he is turning over a new leaf? Either way he is incredible. Chud-Hilarious. Very cool and gentleman like. He was really nice to me and my woman (she really couldn't believe that we met them). His set is phenominal and so is his playing. Now I am reall excited for the next tour. Is their any info on it yet? Don't worry about how they sound because they won't let you down. They have ther same intensity, if not more, as they did 13 years ago. Still fast and furious. Damn they are good. No, their new songs aren't heavy metal...THEY ROCK. I wanna see em again really bad and really soon. Keep on supporting them, cause they are doing this for us...not a record label or any of that shit. Jerry said he loves it and Michale said he is honored to be playing for us. Lets show them the same. Lata, Aaron ------------------------------ From: Gouge3@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 20:25:40 -0400 Subject: They all change their names to Chicago... Any fiends going to the Chicago show at the Riv that want to meet up beforehand can E-mail me. Let's talk. "Those who know the lyrics may sing. Those who don't...pull it!" Gouge comes ripping ------------------------------ From: NJV aka dirt Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 20:42:46 +0000 Subject: Cleveland review in Scene Magazine To anyone who cares what a local reviewer had to say about the Cleveland show: This review can be seen at Scene Magazine's home page--http://www.clevescene.com in the Livewire section of the current issue---I sent it to the bible because I thought some of you might not have access to the web--(i just copied it from their page so the errors (Like calling Larry the Wolf "Lenny the Wolf" are from the guy who wrote it--not my typos). ...from SCENE May 16, 1996.....Author of the review---Pete Roche MISFITS, SARDONICA, FLIPP The Odeon May 12 Nothing less than the long-awaited return of Lodi, New Jersey-based Misfits could satiate the feisty capacity crowd gathered at the Odeon last Sunday. The revamped hardcore outfit turned in an aggressive 90-minute performance of all their punk rock classics, and they did it without the charismatic voice of co-founding Misfit Glenn Danzig. After a 10-year hiatus caused in part by Danzig's 1983 defection to Samhain (and later the band bearing his name), these forerunners of thrash have regrouped to the delight of a huge cult following (many of whom were probably still soiling their pampers during the Misfits' heyday). After playing the circuit in support of the recently issued, coffin-shaped Misfits box set in Europe, the motley heroesof horror-punk came to Cleveland to cap off their spring tour of the East Coast. Minneapolis quartet Flipp set the grindcore wrecking ball in motion with their own amusing brand of tongue-in-cheek punk. The band's sharp (faux?) Italian suits belied the players' hyperactive stage presentation, but the audience remained oblivious to the Sex Pistol stylings of "Half A Brain" and "Wish I Was A Planet." Eager for the headliner, Misfit fans and "fiends" welcomed Flipp by throwing paper cups and shouting insults -- but lead singer-guitarist Brinn was unaffected. "You can't stop me," glared the manic frontman with the wild, Yahoo Serious-meets-Johnny Rotten haircut. "So now I'm going to play my favorite song of all time." Flipp then lunged into a blasting rendition of the Knack's "My Sharona." Exhibiting a sense of playfulness, they followed up by desecrating the Beatles' "Let It Be," turbo-charging the classic with rebel abandon and a quickness that would make Green Day blush. The unimpressed crowd roared its approval when Flipp hurriedly left the stage, but a defiant Brinn returned, taking a seat behind the drums. With guitar in one hand and drum stick in the other, he proceeded to pull off a semi-inspired one-man-band stunt with AC/DC's "Back In Black." Joke over, he too retreated with his mates and made room for the heavier chops of Sardonica. Taking the stage like a trio of Kojaks in Harley-Davidson regalia, Sardonica managed to animate the crowd a bit with a handful of hardcore tunes from their Mutant Punk CD, GRINS AGAIN. Bassist-singer Sal Bee growled away on anvil-heavy numbers like "Scream Silent" and "Behavior," while guitarist Fish churned out the riffs, prowling the stage like a gorilla. A few ears must have perked when Sardonica broke into what seemed at first an innocent take on Hendrix's "Hey Joe," with all its hypnotic guitar bends and wails, but nobody seemed to mind when the song reverted to thrash format. The bald boys of Sardonica did a fair job of priming the mosh pit for their Misfits pals, and the crowd saw them off with a weaker response than they really deserved. The Misfits' act was preceded by a nostalgic montage of film clips featuring scenes from every classic horror and sci-fi thriller you could imagine, with the song "Halloween" playing the soundtrack to images of Nosferatu, Godzilla, Pinhead, the Terminator and other monsters (all annihilating humanity in their own unique little ways). However visually engaging, the video lasted a few minutes too long, but when the Misfits appeared and launched into "Horror Business," "I Turned Into A Martian" and "Death Comes Ripping," the pit came alive, with half the club floor instantly transformed into a throng of sweaty, moshing bodies. The ghoulish foursome led the frenzy --- shifting into overdrive early -- muscles flexing and slick black hair flailing with each headbang. You could smell the testosterone. The mongers of B-movie mayhem haven't lost touch with their punk roots since disbanding. Even at 37, burly bassist Jerry Only still maintains the stamina needed to last for over an hour of unrelenting, hell-borne hardcore. Musclebound guitarist Doyle exhausted three or four guitars, abusing successive instruments without mercy. Drummer Chud was invisible behind his jumbo-sized, spike adorned kit, but his rhythmic thunder was loud and incessant through each frantic tempo -- evidence that he was playing his ass off back there. And as for vocals, 21-year-old Misfit rookie Michale Graves proved that these godfather thrashmeisters don't need Danzig's leader around to justify their reformation. Graves embodies enough of the ex-Misfit to pass the fans' inspection - the voice, hair, black jeans - right down to the bold stage swagger. Plus he adds a few moves of his own to the equation. At first glance, he could be a younger Danzig, and it's probably that adrenaline of youth which enabled him to howl and shout his way through no less than 30 roaring, blood-and-guts songs about monsters and Martians. Graves scaled the towering p.a. system to croon "Ghouls Night Out" from atop the huge speaker, and he dove headfirst into the mosh pit almost every other song. Sardonica's Sal Bee acted as Graves' personal bouncer, plucking him from the clutches of the fans when they threatened unruliness. But at one point even a personal rescuer wasn't enough, and Graves was caught body surfing when he should have been on stage turning a chorus. "C'mon, give us our singer back!" Only joked with the overzealous slam dancers, who politelyobliged their master's request and body-passed Graves back to his rightful place front and center. Other surprises came when Graves invited Lenny the Wolf, a longtime friend of the band, to share vocals with him on "Astro Zombies." Several other guests joined in on the anthemic "We Are 138." Favorites like "Hybrid Moments," "Skulls" and "Bullet" have stood the test of time well, sounding tighter and quicker than they ever did on record, and the refinement of new songs like "The Hunger" suggest that the current Misfit lineup has no intention of selling out on future studio discs by "wimpifying" its sound. Only wished the crowd a happy Mother's Day, and the set concluded with the fitting, "Mommy... Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight?" Encore tunes included the pulsating "She," a savage "Devilock" and -- of course -- "Last Caress/Green Hell." Pete Roche ------------------------------ From: mf252888@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 21:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Cleveland... my 2 cents As Mark and D-Rod have already posted, Cleveland was a great show. No I'm sorry, I didn't mean that- it was incredible. I went with people from the Misfits channel, D, Chewbacca, and Misfitt, and my friend from Pittsburgh. We were right in front of Doyle the whole time. Michale was over in our area several times, but during Teenagers from Mars, he was so close I got to ruffle his hair and Chewie actually went for the mic and sang (or yelled, rather) a line. The crowd was a tame one. To the guy from BGSU (I think) who said that it was a lame-o alternative crowd, I guess you felt that you had more of a right to be there then others. Interesting. Anyway, highlights were...my friend yelling "Whose that other guy on stage?" when we had left the floor for a minute and gone upstairs. Naturally it was Larry the Wolf. He sounded great, and fit right in! After hearing positive comments from D-Rod and others, it might be a good idea to check out the record. I say this for myself also... After "Mommy..." the 'fits wished us a happy Mother's Day. (hehe) The stage diving and all wasn't that bad and there was a small pit too, which I found myself in once totally by chance. The 'fits threw some stuff out to the crowd that had accumulated on stage and Chew caught a jacket. He tossed it back up to the stage and it landed right on Doyle's head! Doyle didn't even notice it was there and kept playing! Later, Chew told him that he threw it and apologized for it landing on him. Doyle smiled and said "Good shot!" We found out after that that another IRC person, milkmen, caught it after it was thrown back into the crowd. They sounded great! I especially enjoyed how "Come Back" was sped up for the show. It's one of my favorite songs and I liked it this way too. They did that with another song too, but I can't seem to remember which one right now. Michale is fantastic. He puts on a good show and plays to the crowd very well. It was easy to see that he was excited to be there, and was having an equally great time. I asked him if he was having fun with all this when he was signing my shirt and he responded "yea, it's been great!" He's very easy to talk to. As D-Rod said, he and I got to hang out a bit after most everyone was gone. He was nothing but positive about Glenn's abilities, and never said anything negative about him. I didn't get to talk to Chud. Hell I could hardly recognize him behind the set!! Doyle was very nice and very approachable. From all the posts I read about some people saying he was anti-social, I never got that impression. Jerry is a *character*. He actually surprised me and made me speechless and blush, which is hard to do. :) He signed my shirt and then leaned over an gave me a kiss and then winked at me. I didn't expect that, so I just said "thanks!", he replied "thank *you*". When my friend went over and gave him a hug he asked her, "So do you love me more now that I'm hugging you?" Kel: "Jerry, I couldn't love ya anymore than I already do!" The stuff tally: 1 Doyle armband, 1 Jerry armband Interesting side note to the Jerry armband...as we were coming back from the show, Chewbacca decided to wipe the fog on my windshield with the band. Well, the sweat seemed to increase as we were in the car. I mean it had a life of its own. The next morning there were people with strange suits collecting samples of it off my car, mumbling something about other planets...I dunno. It was right before they shot me with the tranquilizer gun...... :) later fiends ^nike^ p.s. to everyone I emailed about looking for me with a knee brace. I wore jeans. I didn't know it was going to be so damn cold in Cleveland! ------------------------------ Subject: ATTENTION! Date: Thu, 16 May 96 22:22:04 EDT From: Blood Feast I got a new job this week, working in a factory, where I do nothing but dull robot work all day. My only salvation in this job is that I get to wear a walkman, but I'm getting sick of all my tapes. Therefore I am having a contest. The person who makes me the weirdest 90 minute mix tape wins. The prize is a 39"x48" poster for the misfits show at the revolver in Madrid, Spain. this poster is very cool (Mark can vouch for me, he's seen it) and it's in spanish! Imagine how impressed your friends will be. The winner also gets one of the new misfits glow-go skull shirts (the glow in the dark one of the crimson ghost). The thing is, I don't want just an average mix tape. I want the weirdest, most obscure stuff you can find. I especially like misfits/samhain/danzig covers by other bands. I will listen to all the tapes while passing the time at work, and after I've listened to them all, I'll pick the winner. If you want to enter my contest, send me email at s0bswhit@cabell.vcu.edu love, bloodfeast. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:34:48 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Now Hear This! Hello Fiends, Just a few comments and replies on the last Bible: From: Eric Snook Subject: Detroit Show and various stuff >To me, American Nightmare has been a >Glenn song. The Misfit's w/ Glenn never played it live... In fact, >American Nightmare wasn't a Static Age track, and to the best of my >knowledge, Legacy of Brutality was Glenn's baby. The song was an >experimentation in country style music, and to hear it "punked-out" by >the new Misfits kinda stunk. Gee I always thought it was pure rockabilly? I believe that track was recorded for Walk amoung us. It is on the discography of the page. It was originally done for the Plan 9 release of Walk amoung us. I always hated this tune but I have found that it has grown on me, and I like it the way they play it now, just another example of the Misfits moving forward. > From: Matt Becker > Concerning a letter about the cleveland show.. > was far better overall. Better crowd, more feeling from the band, >and the people knew the songs and the lyrics. This is not an attack on those who went to the >cleveland show who should be there, you guys were around and gave a hell of a show, i just feel >sorry that your show was crowded out by a buncha alternateens. I wonder if this differance had >something to do with the people who promoted the show. Who cares? As Jerry has said The Misfits music is an entity all its own, and that is why the misfits name and music will never die. It is just a matter of a band that plays and makes great music. Hence it can not be loved by one group of people. > From: Gouge3@aol.com > It never ceases to amaze me how closed people seem to change and variation in life. The Bible as of late has been a barage of shit about "Punk vs. Metal," >"Glenn vs. Michale," "Majors vs. Independents," etcetera. Let me put it >gently, fellow fiends, loosen the fuck up. It is all music. It's that >simple...music. >Why give a damn if Anthrax (a "metal" band) is playing with The Misfits (a >"punk" band)?. >Rock N' Roll, Metal, Punk, Alternative, who gives a fuck. It is all HARD >music that is constantly evolving. Right on brother! Couldnt have said it better myself! I guese some people here would rather fight than have a cool discussion about a great band. > From: adam bodnar >Subject: Kryst the Conqueror > Just heard the Kryst the Conqeror EP for the first time and loved it! After >reading all the complaints that the EP was a failure, I was dying to know >what Kryst sounded like. To my surprise it was great! I like it so much I >wish there were more tracks on it (the disc says limited edition EP {5 >tracks}, was there ever a full length CD release that coincides with the >lyric sheet on the web for the LP...anyone?). >Anyway, true they don't sound like the Misfits, but as a completely >different band, they're good. Fuck all of you who say that Jerry and Doyle >failed. yeah when I heard this I liked it also. I wasnt to keen on the vocals, but I loved the music. I very impressed on how good Doyle and Jerry played on that. It made very excited about the band being back together and pushing forward the direction of the Misfits. That is what I find so cool about Glenn and the Misfits, the evolution. The different stages the Misfits went through, and how Glenn has developed his music. It is great so many bands just keep regurgitating the same flavor of the week crap, and the two just keep changing. And Jerry still wants to release that album, the 5 songs are out there through cyclopean but the whole sessions are not. But like Mo said he still wants to release the album. He talks about it in the Metal Maniacs interview. > From: Mark Lerret Subject: Cleveland >To be honest, I had some mixed feelings about the reincarnated Misfits, but not >any more. Michale will never "replace" Danzigand, with the same image. Over time, >expect the differences to become more obvious. Michale already replaced Glenn, I think it was officially announced somtime around October Î 95. And yes there are differences beween Michale and Glenn, for starters Michale isnt Glenn. Now it is true the Manimals has my thumbs up, like I said before it is a deeper listen but after a few times listening to it I couldnt get enough. It is on a loop in the D-Rod house. and to all a good morning... D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:11:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: free your mind and your ass will follow Thats my advice to you,lil fiends.. listen, i can hardly believe the stupid shit i have been reading here the last week...for starters.... Stephen Ed Sulzbach : to quote Glenn: "I'm gonna crack open your fucking heads and squeeze out your brains..."-- who is thinking about doing just that to Stephen Ed RIGHT NOW????! Show of hands please....hey, me too! The absolute least you could do, fool, is get his name right, since you supposedly had the evidence in your hot little jerkoff hands. It is Anzalone, not "Anzelone". Big shot. and your spiritual twin, Shifter...re."Chrimson (sic) Ghost went a little crazy about my reply to him....how can you complain about me supposedly 'flaming' you ....." well he didnt complain, Beavis. He simply responded, and very patiently considering. I don't wonder you have wandered your whole life long...you probably cant read a map. To Phil Rupp: how can you imply GG was anything LESS than an alcoholic/addict --BTW, everybody I am too, but i know it and do not put anything addictive in my body anymore because of that. I can tell you GG sure acted like an addict...even when he was sober. Was there ever a more self-destructive individual than GG? I remember the scene in "Hated" (the video) where an obviously intoxicated GG request a bitch for his birth- day, not to have sex with, but to urinate and defecate on him. This would be funny, maybe, except during the filmed exchange, GG is vomiting while being "serviced" in this fashion, and pleads with the farouche' young lady to continue with her ministrations.....this is a person with NO self esteem issues? Puh-LEEEZE! I agree that he was an artist, I really like his stuff! "Look in my Eyes (and hate me)" is a great song. But let us call a spade a spade (or a fuckin nigger if you live here in Fla...). Dont be revisionist about the man. sorry, thats all from my soapbox. As for the calendar, i have many birthdays of you fiends..but one small problem...I know your real names, but what are your NICKNAMES? or what you want to be immortalized as? Let me know. or else i will print your real name. Even if it is Anzelone. (snicker). and there you have it. See you on the Op Man. " as the day stops dead...at the place where we're lost.. "-h.devoto patricia nrwidow@magicnet.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 00:30:26 -0500 From: TES777 Subject: Got it fixed... Just another day in the biblehood. well let's start with the ususal. Thank you for sending in the birthdays for the calendar, but i know there are many more of you out there that have not sent jack shit in, so if you want to be part of this calendar then get off your ass and e-mail in your b-days. This has been going on for a week now and i can't believe how lazy some of you are. now on to bigger and greener pastures to Eric Snook - the image of the Misfits: that was classic, with the bit about squinting. Could you really see Glenn up there!?! I have to say your bit and the guy that had the typo and called Bobby, Booby really made my week. We really need to put together a part of the page for classic comments from the fiends. To CG well i guess this EVB thing is over!?! and i have nothing to say like you were wrong and how mean and such. We all get pissed and we are semi-human(though this doesn't apply to certain people where ever WES might be) I think your post was really good in reply to all the how dare you... from everyone but EVB herself. I am a bit surprised that she has not come to stand up for herself but that is what that is. You have made a difference for a lot of people out there who needed you and Mark to lead them to the info on the fits. I guess another flame is over and a little bit better this time around. Now to part once again as i round out the end of the bible, hope to see your birthday in my e-mail box. TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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BUT, despite many moves which seemed "copied," he *did* have his own "stage-presence." i know that the vast majority of the sunscribers disagree with me on that point (although they all seemed to like his performance nonetheless). i just thought he made a lot of moves that i couldn't remember glenn doing, so i think anyone who says that he only sat and watched old videos of glenn is wrong. as for his singing...it was great. (well, as glenn said, you can only be so good at 80 000 000 miles-an-hour). but on some lines of some songs, (like come back, last caress, etc...you know the ones) his voice really came through. i think if some people (like EVB) didn't think he was adequate on those, it's because they expected him to sing with the talent that glenn has today. obviously, if you compare the singing of "sistinas" on demonsweatlive to anything on any old misfits show, you can see that glenn has improved LOTS. i'd have to say that michale did as good as anyone but glenn-1990s could do...maybe even equal to live 1980s-glenn of that era. (they both seem to be able to pull of powerful baritone lines even when they're thrashing around and should be gasping for breath). actually, when he was talking between songs he REALLY sounded like glenn, even more so than when singing. a couple things he said sounded EXACTLY like some stuff on old boots. (when glenn says "too fuckin' rough for ya huh?" on the X-mas Hittsville show, right before Horror Business...michale had the EXACT same tone of voice!). but i sre ain't complaining...there's only so much degree to which someone can change their own voice, so i feel it's unfair to "blame" michale. and i also feel it's good that jerry got someone who can sound like that (rather than some stupid screamer like most other bands have). and as for the other common complaint...that they sounded too "metal" or "thrash"...well yes. BUT, ONLY if you want them to sound like they do on the old 7"s. as you know, even in the early '80s they didn't sound ANYTHING like that live. ***WHY** are people making this complaint then??? haven't they heard or seen recordings of any old shows??????? to me, they FULLY recaptured the old misfits sound. after listening to EAD, what the hell would these people have expected them to sound like anyway??? i think that's also the reason that the EAD stuff (as you pointed out last issue) translates better live than SA or the old stuff. but i seriously think that if you had made an audio recording of the T.O. show on Friday and handed it to me, i wouldn't have known the difference between it and any old boot (except there would have been 3 songs i'd never heard before). the set-list. halloween * horror business * i turned into a martian * death comes ripping * all hell * the haunting * static age * tv casualty * hybrid moments * skulls * devils whorehouse * return of the fly * teenagers from mars * violent world * vampira * blacklight * mars attacks?? * night of the living dead * 20 eyes * hollywood babylon * horror hotel * ghouls night out * attitude * london dungeon * astro zombies * hatebreeders * bullet * we are 138 * ENCORE: green hell * queen wasp * devilock * bloodfeast * bloodfeast (yes, twice...the first one was interrupted by a fight) * mommy, can i go out and kill tonight? * come back * some kinda hate * american nightmare * die, die my darling 2 other reasons i could have been fooled: (as to the show seeming just like an old one) 1. the bass and guitar amps both shutting down a various points of the show (hah hah!) 2. the fight i also think they should have kept the CG banner covered up until they came on (seeing it all through Sardonica's performance kinda ruined the surprise/adrenaline pump that would have happened if it had appeared later) at least they kept CHUD's drum set covered.... speaking of him, i actually think he looks more like glenn thatn michale... michale's hair sort of spikes at the top (sorta like doyle's), and he seems taller. like glenn, CHUD seemed much shorter. with his build, CHUD looks like a late-Samhain/early-Danzig Glenn, but with glenn's late-Misfits hair-do. (shorter and flatter on top than michale's, jerry's, or doyle's). next time you talk to CHUD, ask him if he got a date the next time he's in Toronto. (when we met him, some chick was practically drooling on him, asking him all these questions with a 100-watt light-bulb in her eyes). anyway, the best part of the show was after it ended...we got to meet them all. when they were done, we went a block down the street to the PIZZA PIZZA (the rat gnawing at the inside of my stomach was the worst part of the show), then went back to get our coats out of the coat-check. as we went in, CHUD walked past and (answering the calls of people) said "I'll be right back". we went outside, where we met doyle (he had on a hood) where he signed a lot of stuff (i got the new fiend club sticker from the mailing signed by all 4 before the night was through, and also got him and jerry to sign a postcard of the pic from the *inside* of the WAU cd***stupid me! in my haste i handed doyle that picture, and he's not even in it! but he signed it anyway). i said "mark kennedy says hi", and he asked if i was on the bible, and I said yeah... i wanted to get him to sign the SA poster you gave me, but it was spitting, and it was to much of a pain to get it out of the mailing tube, so i didn't bother. he didn't talk all that much, but he was really nice, and asked how the sound was, and apologized for the amps or speakers cutting out. Craig (guero666@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca) said it wouldn't have been a true misfits show without that happening, and doyle smiled. he also noticed the big black magic-markered "GOOG" on the front of Neil's Levi's jacket (which he got them all to sign on the back, where he has a stenciled-on Misfits logo (famous monsters) and the CG head. when doyle saw the "GOOG" he asked if neil liked googy, and neil said "yeah, he's pretty cool." doyle smiled and said "robo's all right, but googy's kinda weird" and we all laughed. someone said something that i missed (i think Liam was mocking neil about magic-markering "GOOG" on the jacket, and i guess doyle misinterpreted and said (very incredulously) "he signed that?!" i wish i had filmed all this... doyle was obviously much more shy than the others (as everyone else seems to say) but he was really nice. when i was done getting him to sign, i shook his hand and said "great show, man" (or something), and he looked straight at me and said "thanks a lot) and you could tell he really appreciated, and was sincere. i feel bad that i got him to sign that pic he's not on! then we went in the side door, where CHUD and michale were sitting on the edge of the stage signing stuff and talking to people. as he used my back to sign the fiend club sticker, he asked where i got, i told him, and he obviously hadn't seen it before. i wish i could have said more, but it was hard to get a word in edge-wise with that chick and a couple other people having full-out conversations with him. again, he acted just like doyle when i said "great show." then michale...he signed the sticker, and we talked a bit. [i wish i could remember everything that they all said, but there's so much, and there's so many people, and everything's happening at once...]. anyway, somehow we got onto the topic of how he got into the band. someone else asked him, and he said something like "they had this thing where they were auditioning, and i got in touch with them" (or something like that...you already know the full-story though). he said he never knew them before, and i said "you're Lodi, aren't you?" and he said yeah. then he said they gave him a tape (i assume it was "Misfits" becasue he said "She" was the first song) and he said "i listened to it and i thought 'these guys **suck!!***!!" [[i think he was joking...he had a huge smile as he said it, ane everyone laughed]] then some girl said "but you didn't do "she" tonight!" and he said "no, we don't do it much...there's a few we don't play too much" he named a couple...demonomania, spook city, rat fink (and i mocked disappointment at them not doing rat fink, and he laughed) ...basically he named some EAD stuff, and the ones you named on the bible a few issues ago. i said "why, they're too fast?" and he said "well, nah, i don't think they like them that much" someone said something about "theme for a jackal" and he said "yeah, i really wanted to do that one, but we didn't." anyway, when we were done talking to him i went to shake his hand and he offered his left one: "my right one's too sore" (you could tell by the way he was holding it) and i smiled and did a punching movement (alluding to the fight that he and doyle had gotten into with some fan during the show), and he noded. as we were walking away i said the usual "great show, you did really good" or something, and for a split-second i didn't think he heard me (others were still talking to him) but then he looked up and said "thanks, i really appreciate it" then we sorta went outside, and somehow someone got the idea to go out front (i think CHUD tipped us off) to find jerry. right beside the front entrance of the Opera House is a doorway leading to an apartment or something upstairs, where the 7 of us got to meet jerry and a roadie (or maybe rocky?) all alone... he's got his hair slicked back, no eye makeup, and he's wearing glasses. He talks politely with each of us (I can't hear most of what he's saying, because I came up the stairs last, and I'm too short to see clearly into the little dressing room (everyone sorta crowded into the doorway). finally I get to the front, where Neil and I talk to him uninterrupted for about 10 or 15 minutes. He told me so much stuff about the upcoming t-shirts and poster artwork that there's no way I could remember it all, so i wish i'd had a tape-recorder. oh well... anyway, I pulled out the SA poster, and upon hearing how I got it, he asked aboutmy e-mail alias or something, so I told him my name and that you'd know me. (he jokingly asked for a good review of the show). On the poster he wrote "THANX BRETT FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT IN THE OVERWORLD, -JERRY ONLY", and he also signed a few other things...the new Fiend Club sticker, the photo Mark gave me of the poster of him, and the postcard of the pic from the WAU cd book. (I felt bad...he happily signed everything I gave him...I had a whole pile of other stuff that I'd brought just in case, but I held it back because a couple others were getting stuff signed, and I figured that he must be tired). he talked a lot about the artists, and which was doing which t-shirt, etc. And he explained the method one of them is using (I think Pushead for the Blacklight cover...or maybe EAD 2)...how they only use coloured pencils and markers, and he explained how when it's reduced in size, it will still retain the clarity and separation of the large original. so Jerry signed everything, and when I gave him the WAU cd-insert photo postcard, we talked about it. I asked him which was Bobby and which as Googy (sorry Bobby, but as I told Jerry, the only pics I have of you guys are on shoddy bootlegs of the 7"s, so it's hard to tell sometimes). I commented how that wasn't even the right lineup for that album, and he said they (warner Bros) really screwed up with that cd, not giving the lyrics, changing the design, etc. somehow we also got onto the topic of EAD, and Jerry said that (*almost* verbatim quoting here:) "when you guys listen to EAD, you're not hearing the true EAD" and he explained about how it was recorded, how the had to wake Glenn up to time the pause in "Mommy" etc., and how it's original production and recording wasn't that good. I already knew about most of the stuff he was saying, having read it on the WWW page, but I wasn't gonna stop him and miss the chance of hearing it first-hand! (I mentioned to him how we spent so much time dissecting the recording sessions listing). he said "the stuff [EAD] on the box set's not bad, but that's still only about 80%, but we didn't get the master tape in time." (or something like that). what else...when he was explaining about the picture, he said he could never figure out which one was Glenn on Samhain...Mark, ask him which one he meant. We got cut off by someone else, and I never got to find out which one he meant, but I assume he had Glenn and Steve confused on the front of Initium. I was gonna see if I could answer him, but then we got onto another topic, and I totally forgot until later. I think the mention of Samhain got Neil (or Craig?) to mention Mephisto Waltz.. (again, the quoting might not be 100%): Neil or Craig: what about "Mephisto Waltz" ?? Jerry: never heard it before Me: didn't you guys play it once? Jerry: well, what he brought down was totally different. He actually wrote a real song for that one, but what he had [when the Misfits played it] was not the same as on the cd. I've never heard that before. That, he did on his own. ...I *think* he said he suspected it was Samhain or even Danzig, and I said it was done with Steve Zing on drums and Glenn on everything else, because Eerie hadn't learned bass yet. He mentioned how Eerie had come to drum for the Misfits. I said I had never heard Rosemary's Babies, so, did he suck on drums or something? and Jerry said no, he was too fast, and he sorta demonstrated. damn, I'm having trouble remembering the details! (it's been a week, plus so much was going on at once, so it's hard to remember exactly what he said). In the course of something else, the whole problem with Greg Ginn came out, and Jerry said similar to what he said in the Juice i/v: "I knew Henry from way back, before he was a big rock-star, and he used to be a stand-up guy. If anyone saw any of the money from black Flag, it's him, but he didn't do anything to help Robo get his cut from Greg" (again, these are NOT exact quotations...I have tried to preserve as much of the original wording as I can remember, but even *if* I was successful, remember I'm still presenting it out of context. (so all of you Greg Ginn fans and Rollins fans (including me!) don't flip out at what Jerry SORT OF said... what else...Jerry talked about their upcoming plans...he said they were going into the studio next week (now this weeK) to record the single, (I personally am looking forward to hearing Michale sing on a studio-recording) and promised that they'd be returning to more Canadian cities on the next leg. He jokingly promised to return to Toronto "only if we get to beat up one of your citizens again" (during the show some guy got in a fight with Michale and Doyle, and Jerry had the guy dragged on-stage and thrown out the back door...of course several fans beat on the guy first before giving him up). But he also said (as he did during the concert) that they were not there to hurt anyone, just to play and have fun, so "don't let guys like that ruin it for anyone else". He also said that the singles would first be sold on tour, then, whatever's left over, [***IF*** there are any], will be sold through the fiend-club and possibly stores. Jerry said that the fiend-club and the on-line (Bible) are great to have, but he really wants people to come out and see the live show. as we were leaving the dressing room, Michale and someone else came in. I went to shake Jerry's hand, but then offerred him the other one because of all the wet silver ink on it. Jerry said he didn't mind and shook the right one anyway... well, that's about all I can think of right now... ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #179 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 01:55:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: Tyler Buckmaster > I have a misfit video and was hoping that someone (Mark/CG) could give me > any info on it...it seems to be a cable network show called 'Why be > something you're not" its only about 25 mins long... This is The Misfits live on "Why Be Something You're Not" on 1/7/83 in Michigan. > The main reason I ask is because Glenn introduces as Glenn Whittman.. Listen more closely. I don't understand why everyone thinks he says "Glenn Whitman" - I've had this video for years and never once did it sound like that to me. He says "Slim Whitman - idiot". It's a joke. Slim Whitman was some country rock guy that Glenn apparently found humorous. That's all. > Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 17:27:58 +0200 (MET DST) > From: Dalkiel > The reason for the post is a boot I've bought, its called 'Heros of Danzig'. > I couldn't find anything about it on the Web page, what I am wondering about > is the date, it says that it was recorded in -91, but the Misfits passed on > in -83, right? And yea, its Misfits alright, they tune the strings between > every song, and the lineup is Glenn/Jerry/Doyle/Robo. Can anybody help me > out on this one? Of course it's on the web page. It's listed in the bootleg discography. That was recorded April 8, 1983 at P.U.N.X #4 in Los Angeles. > Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:47:05 -0500 (CDT) > From: Jolanta C Biniek > > pps. in the Jerry interview, he said Eerie was talking behind his > back... ??!!??. anybody know anything about this? i find it hard to believe. The only thing I can think of is this - around Halloween Eerie made a comment about The Misfits performing with "their Glenn clone" in New York. Eerie has always been good to the fans, and is always prompt and helpful with the e-mail replies. He's a good guy. > From: "Lowe, Thomas B." > C'mon, are you a Misfits fan or are you just trying SO hard to give these > fake Misfits more credibility then they are getting. I saw them, Michale is > a good singer but he tries his hardest to BE Glenn. He's not. Glenn's This isn't fair. Not only has Michale never met or seen Glenn in person, he never even heard one of Glenn's songs until March of '95 when he auditioned for The Misfits. To say that he's trying to be Glenn is completely incorrect. There was a certain style of vocalist The Misfits needed - Michale can not help the way his voice sounds or the way he physically looks. I think he is quite content being Michale Graves. > From: KEITH "GWAR" NOSS > However, I do have a couple of questions for Mark, that I'm sure > others will want to hear the answers to, so I'm posting them here. > Mark, when Doyle threw his armbands into the crowd, was this an > every gig thing or just the Cleveland show because it was the last > date on this leg? Because, if he does it all the time, doesnt that Yes indeed - Doyle threw out his armbands at many of the shows. He's got a good supply of them, but there aren't enough to sell yet. > my nads. Also, Mark, are you going to the Columbus or Cincinnati > shows? If you are, I gotta meet up with you. I'm sure some other > Ohioans would like to meet you too. I don't think I'll be able to make it up for those shows... I think I'll stick to shows closer to me... driving 8 hours for a show isn't always that fun. > From: Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fonz=E9us?= > Dennis: "The new singer kicks ass, he sings like a god! They played all > their songs, it was just so great!!!" This is a better description of Michale. > From: ChristoTer@aol.com > But, according to Pete Steele, Jerry approached him a few years back and > asked him to sing for Kryst the Conquerer. Since then they've remained > friends, and that's how the friendship started. It's old news, to one or two of us. This is entirely true. Jerry went after him in the fall of '93 to sing for what would soon be The Misfits, specifically becuase of his voice. Peter already had Type O Negative going strong, as you can see from their recent successes. I don't know how many of you like Type O, but they have this ridiculous tune called "The Misinterpretation of Silence and Its Disastrous Consequences". It's about a minute long. Check it out if you ever get a chance. See you later. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 00:05:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil E. McAllister" Subject: Anybody seen my art? Well, y'all can tell Jerry that I'm still out here in California waiting for his ass to get out here and play. My question is: has anybody seen my art on the current tour? I'm just curious whether it's getting any "airplay" on telephone poles and the like here in the U.S. of A. I drew that "Shocking Return of the Misfits" illo that they used for flyers for the European tour, with the Crimson Ghost and the girl and the new line-up all in coffins. I notice they're still calling the tour "The Shocking Return of the Misfits" (IT WAS ALL MY IDEA, DAMMIT!!) but I wonder if they're doing anything with the picture? Just curious... I was really meaning to do more art for them, but I was cursed with a new job a few weeks back and you wouldn't even believe how many hours I've been working lately. I just haven't gotten around to doing any art for 'em... but soon! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 09:57:41 -0700 From: Vladimir Dracul Subject: one ...all stop and stare at the new guy. i just joined this list and as of yet know very little about the misfits. all i really know for certain is that i have been listening to the fits for years and love their noise. i guess i am really just posting this message in an attempt to make my meager presence known and to ask for any pertinent information concerning any upcoming misfits happenings in or around winnipeg manitoba canada... -Vlad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 15:42:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Ed Sulzbach Subject: whatever Sorry Denmother, we can't all be tough guys. Like I said to Mark, the concert was over a year ago and I don't own a copy of the poster so fuck whatever the spelling is. I don't give a shit what your smarmy little head thinks. If you want a copy though, I can get you one. You should follow your own advice cool guy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:17:26 -0400 Subject: Henry Rollins From: Smith Family Anyone catch Henry on Unsolved Mysteries (5/17)? Here's a crazy notion, maybe he killed his friend??!! Well, keep those awesome post's coming! When's the Blacklight single coming out and what's the latest on the Bible tee's. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 13:38:32 -0500 (CDT) From: David Arthur Aufox Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #177 > From: Bobby Steele <104600.2577@compuserve.com > The name's BOBBY. I know I have somewhat of an obsession with women's > breasts, but I haven't extended it into my name. he he he. sorry about that, i am a shitty typist. it comes from an ld that i have... > From: She > There's no reason for you or anybody to call a certain kind of music crap. > Who cares if you don't like it? I bet some of your pals in Illinois > hate punk. Do they tell you it's crap? Do you like to hear that? its my opinion that metal is crap, if people don't care, great. it doesn't make a difference to me. still it is my opinion that metal is worthless music. if people agree great, if not great. actually all my friends do listen to punk..... so they don't tell me its crap. > Metalizing? You should actually see the band before you make this > kind of statement. i'm just going from various things i have heard on and off this mailing list. i plan on seeing them regardless so i can actually see it, but what i have head so far itn't promising....i tihnk even you said that they have taken a kryst-like sound on... > In the 13 years since The Misfits last toured, > Jerry and Doyle have changed their playing style a little bit. > This isn't necessarily what I would call metalizing, and you shouldn't > call it that until you actually HEAR them. its only metalizing if they start playing metal.... there is nothing wrong with them wanting to play metal... they should just start something from scratch, and not use the name of a punk band to do it. > What did you think of the > Earth AD stuff? i think it is the worst misfits stuff ever done. it sounds very metaly > Imagine the Static Age stuff being played the way > Earth AD was recorded... would you consider that metalizing? That's > about what it sounds like. yes i would. earth ad is metally. maybe not for bands like anthrax, and napalm death, but it is closer to metal than it is to punk. and if the old stuff is played like earth as is played.... well quite simply it scares me. > Why does it matter who The Misfits tour with? Perhaps the crowd > will be different, but just keep in mind that it does and it doesn't. if they were were going to tour with a punk band it wouldn't matter. but by playing with a bad metal band like anthrax it does make a huge difference. the whole aura of the show will be different and tainted. the misfits should try and remeber they are a punk band, if they want to play metal, they should start a metal band, and leave punk songs out of it. > Also, being from the same area of the country > (NY/NJ) as the guys from Anthrax are, they've become friends. The > Misfits, unlike some people, are open-minded enough to support > or tolerate their friends even if they play different styles of > music. Imagine that! gee, nice hidden flame there mark..... actually i can imagine that and there is nothing wrong with that. but the two bands shouldn't be on your together. if the misfits are a punk band which they were, they should help out their own, and not tyr to save a dying breed of music. i have no problem with other people likeing or playing msuic i don't like, but ath the same time i have the right to tell people i think its crap, and vise versa. i have been friends with people who didn't share my musical tastes and that was fine, but i wouldn't be in a band, nor play on the same bill as them. > If I care enough to read your post? I read every post several times. > I read them occasionally as they come in (as I did with yours), later > when I send the Bible out (to check for mail errors) and again before > responding. I think that comment was entirely unnecessary and I'm not > sure why you made it. That doesn't matter... i was saying that somewhat as a joke. i don't normally post, and when i do it is about little things. that is all i was saying. > How closely have you read my posts? Did you realize we have > the same birthday? I'm glad you're going > to check out The Misfits and I think that for the most part you will > be pleased. I also think that The Misfits will continue to play in > small places. i read your posts carefully, actualy yours is one of the few people's whose posts i read.... yeah i know we have the same birthday, i ahve only met one other person who did. i'm glad at lest the misfits are going to be playing small places. > Well... nice try there. Jerry and Doyle never compromised their > musical beliefs either. I think you're mistaking musical beliefs with > political labelling. actualy i'm not. but restarting a punk band (which i am glad they did) and playing metal they do comprimise them. > If I write 'punk' music > in the morning and 'metal' in the evening, have I compromised my > musical beliefs by the end of the day? only if you play them all under the same band name.... greta example nuclear assult... they claimed to be boh "hardcore" and "thrash" and people the liked hardcore just saw them as a joke. > Would you consider "Cough/Cool" "Come Back" > "American Nightmare" "20 Eyes" and "Green Hell" all the same type of > music? It's all based on interpretation. yes, if you leave out cough/cool and american nightmare. > As for the last punk of The Misfits... do you not count Arthur Googy > and his post-Misfits band Antidote, or are you just writing that because > you know Bobby is reading? whether or not bobby is reading has little to do with my opinons. as far as antidote goes, i don't know much about them and have never heard their music. so i can't say, and i have heard nothing about them from freinds so i ahve have no opinion. -dave ------------------------------ From: "a.proctor" Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 15:20:10 GMT0BST Subject: Not quite over TES 777 To CG: Thomas B. Lowe said it much better than I could have. I'm beginning to see that cunt Wes's point. Dr. ADP, MD Proctology "Some people can just fuck off and go to hell!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 14:49:28 -0700 From: Thomas Lemmon Subject: Misfits and Anthrax I think that you are all going stir crazy about this Misfits/Anthrax tour. Sure, Anthrax is a washed up band and all of thier music sux, but they do have a right to tour with the Misfits if that is what Jerry and the gang wants. Of course having the 'fits open up for Anthrax is a totally different story (that is if the Misfits do open up for Anthrax). Would it be different if the 'Fits tour with Slayer or C.O.C., or Ozzy for that matter, hell, why not have the 'fits tour with Primus. Hell, I would love to see that! Aside from all of that, I would like to say to you people that you are all lucky to be in the east coast and in some parts of central america where the 'fits have toured at. Hell, I would love to go to a 'fits concert, but as you can see, I'm i San Diego, California, and I'm not even sure if they will come here at all. Of course I would go to one of their concerts, but I have no money to pay for the flight their and back and then for the tickets. Hey Bobby, maybe you can help me out here. I'm wondering and I have not been able to get a decent answer for the following question, what the hell is the difference between a Floyd Rose locking tremolo system and a Floyd Rose double-locking tremolo system? Hey, any body with the answer to this please e-mail me. Wolfsblood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 20:54:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: cg: hero or heel? HELLo fiendlings, well since i seem to have set a precedent for myself i will again wage war against ignorance, brandishing the sword of my wit.... > From: Dalkiel > Subject: Misfits boot > > If Michale doesn't fill up Glenn's shoes, doesn't that make him a misfit? Haha. thats a REAL good one! i like it, you guys should all try an crack jokes like this one...bravo!dalkeil > hi, just wanted to gush about Angry Red. i just got the first 2 issues. > they'r great. in case you'r wondering what you get there that you can't > on the bible... lots more pictures :) if you liked the pics from the box > -jolanta c. biniek > http://shrike.depaul.edu/~jbiniek > ps. and send keith more misfits art! > again more accolades for the fiendling few. you guys are the best! you should all support fanzines. They cost more to produce than they make! same with this list, right Mark? and to everyone who flamed CG for saying what many of us dare not say, and question Jerry Only's right to call himself a Misfit.. let me tell yousomething. I WAS THERE!!!! and let me say that if there had never been a Jerry Only, there would have been no MISFITS. There might have been a Glenn Danzig, as opposed to a GlennAnzalone, but GlennDanzig would have been several more years in coming....this is not to say anything negative about Glenn by the way. He was the chief songwriter, creative vision. But Jerry forked out the daily $$$ to make THE BAND HAPPEN. I remember him working all day and coming into town and literally handing over his paycheck to pay for studio time. Because studio time is NOT free! He never complained, and trusted Glenn's vision! As i recently remarked to EVB privately, if Glenn had said that Jerry should dress as a French maid, i bet Jerry would have considered it, he believed in the Misfits THAT MUCH. And Jerry was there STRUGGLING from the beginning. There were no packed houses in the 70, 80's like there are now. I think Jerry deserves some of the credit, since he helped in a TANGIBLE way, not in an intangible way, like song direction, he simply helped bankroll the fucking band. He helped bankroll Glenn! He had completely thrown his lot in with Glenn, they were a TEAM. Frick and Frack, we used to call them, Glenn Chocula and Frankenjerry. Bobby, on the other hand, HAD been in bands before, he knew I think that his destiny wouldnt begin and end with the Misfits. I think his talents really kind of lay in another direction, but I think his influence was felt for a time, as well. But Jerry really did a LOT for Glenn AND THE MISFITS FOR A BIG PART OF THE WONDER YEARS OF THE MISFITS!!!! OKAY,(caps off now) I'm done. flame away, i know what the fuck i am talking about and so does CG. and oh yeah, incase you forgot.... F--- HENRY! please subscribe all-o-yez, to the Op Man. It is a ton o'fun. love to all, patricia dont forget to send in your nicknames, true names and b-days to me. at nrwidow@magicnet.net. ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 14:37:34 -0400 Subject: good music crimson ghost: who do you consider to be a good songwritter. just curious. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 09:44:12 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last issue ---> The Proctologist Said: >First, I said that BOTH Jerry and Glenn were *integral* (nice fucking >touch) to a true Misfits line up. But as far as sound goes bass can >be immitated a lot better than vocals. Actually you are so off base now it's not even funny. It's not the singing or the playing. The Misfits were a friendship between Jerry & Glenn. Without either one the Misfits as a band would never have existed. I'm not trying to say that Jerry was more important then Glenn, as far as I know I've *never* said that, and if I did it was in a fit of rage at some little poser punk on this list. You are making the same mistake many people do, and in doing so you fail to realize that had it not been for Jerry putting up the money and forcing Glenn out of mommy's house, this list wouldn't even be here. >This is what Jerry and Doyle are doing, impersonating the Misfits. Funny, Glenn Danzig didn't see it that way. >Also, you don't like the Misfits that much? You can think of 30 >better bands? Even if that's true, even if your only here to defend >your friend Jerry, it's a stupid thing to say on a list where most >everyone else LOVES the Misfits. I won't respond to the majority of your post, I just don't know what your getting at. You seem to agree with me on all the major point and disagree on technicalities, What's your point? or are you just another kid that wants to argue with me? As far as 30 other bands, that's easy, in no particular order: Buzzcocks, Magazine, Devo, Funkadelic, Parliament, Dead Boys, Stooges, MC5, NY Dolls, Blue Oyster cult, Clash, Beatles, Stones, Frank Zappa, B-52's Fuck there's 15 that was easy, I could go on like this for another 50 or so, but I won't bother, just trust me when I say I'd rather listen to Fucking Abba! That's not to say my Misfit's shit doesn't get played. Every now and then I'll pull out the box and play Astro or Some kinda.. but that's it. I don't listen to the whole thing start to finish, a tune here a tune there. maybe one a day. I'd say the average is. I remember when I was working at Proedge, I was sitting in my office listening to Singles going Steady (buzzcocks) Jerry comes in, says "WOW, Orgasm Addict what a great tune." He parked his ass in a chair and sat and listened to the whole fucking album and bullshitted (hmm..Bullshat?) with me. I guess what I'm trying to say is, what do you think The Misfit's (Glenn Included) listen to? If you think they ride around listening to Walk Among Us, you're dreaming. --->ChristoTer@aol.com Said: >But, according to Pete Steele, Jerry approached him a few years back and >asked him to sing for Kryst the Conquerer. Since then they've remained >friends, and that's how the friendship started. That's exactly how it started, from what I understand Steele was gonna do it, but type o exploded on the scene shortly thereafter. --->Aaron Said: >attire. I swear every person associated with the Misfits that night was in >a sweat shirt and sweat pants...they all had some type of NY GIANTS logo, >too. He signed my ticket and my girlfriend's shirt. Damn he has a cool >signature, but he really didn't utter a word. Yupper, that's how they dress most of the time. As far as Doy's sig is concerned: For those of you that haven't seen it, he turns the "Y" into a scepter (or a pitchfork, depending on how you see it). --->The WingWiper Said: >-Sorry if you didn't like my saying you were no loss, but you were the one >who left (for four days). And again that's my opinion. Did you expect >everybody to get upset and try to talk you out of it? I don't think I >would be any loss either if I left, or anybody else on this list other >than Mark. I think you need to deflate your ego and realize that: we're >all misfits fans, you expended all your inside knowledge of the misfits >long ago Actually I haven't even come close to expending my knowledge. There are a few people here that I've told some other things to (they know who they are). Fact of the matter is most of what I know is personal and if I let it out people would be hurt by it. As for me leaving for 4 days. I left because all I was getting was rations of shit everytime I posted something. One thing I didn't realize is that a lot of people did enjoy reading what I write. within 2 days I had no less than 50 "please come back" emails in my mailbox. I felt it wasn't fair to those people to leave so I stayed. I decided that the assholes were unimportant in the long run anyway. ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ I need somebody baby... ...just like you...just like youuuuu The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ Operator's Manual http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om #misfits channel op -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ From: UNDRMYN666@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 01:23:23 -0400 Subject: EVIL Hi all I just wanted to let any NY or CT fiends know that some members of my band UNDERMINE and some of our friends will be playing a one night only "tribute" ( i hate to use that word) to the Misfits. We have been planning it for a while and we're going to get totally into it. Devilocks, crimson ghosts everywhere, blood and violence. I think we're gonna call ourselves "wolfsblood" for the one night, but someone else might have already used it. anyway, we're doing about 20 songs anyone else think trent reznor is a rip off of Glenn from the Samhain days? Im convinced that Reznor wants to be Danzig. He even started working with rick rubin or so I hear. Get a life man, trying to imitate someone else. (see above paragraph for ironic humor). Ok thats about it. Hi neil, hey josh, undermine rules. "devils are born in angels arms" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 20:27:47 -0400 From: She Subject: Tour Dates/Blacklight RESURRECTION TOUR '96 (Anthrax) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 05/30/96 Baron's Beach Club Allentown, PA 05/31/96 Water St. Music Hall Rochester, NY 06/01/96 Newport Music Hall Columbus, OH 06/02/96 The Brewery Louisville, KY 06/03/96 Egyptian Room Indianapolis, IN 06/04/96 Bogart's Cincinnati, OH 06/06/96 The Mirage Minneapolis, MN 06/07/96 Riviera Theater Chicago, IL 06/08/96 Mississippi Nights St. Louis, MO 06/10/96 Cain's Ballroom Tulsa, OK 06/11/96 Bomb Factory Dallas, TX 06/12/96 Texas Sky Park Corpus Christi, TX 06/13/96 Villa Reale McAllen, TX 06/14/96 The Equinox Houston, TX 06/15/96 Jimmy's New Orleans, LA 06/17/96 Shades Jacksonville, FL 06/18/96 The Partenon Tampa, FL 06/19/96 Pyramids Ft Myers, FL 06/20/96 Club Nu Miami, FL 06/21/96 The Embassy Orlando, FL 06/22/96 The Masquerade Atlanta, GA 06/23/96 The Ritz Theater Raleigh, NC 06/27/96 The Roseland New York, NY 06/28/96 Hammerjacks Baltimore, MD 06/29/96 I.C. Light Ent. Center Pittsburgh, PA The tour continues through August, but dates are not confirmed yet. The band will be selling the following items on this tour: shirts (7-6 designs), Lucanae magazine, posters, stickers, and perhaps the Blacklight single (see below). BLACKLIGHT 7" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This single will NOT be available for the tour. That's all I really know at this point. It was recorded last week, but they still haven't determined which songs will actually make it to the single, and the artwork is not ready. That's it. You know as much as I do. mark ------------------------------ Subject: Bloodfeast's Contest Date: Mon, 20 May 96 2:38:14 EDT From: Blood Feast Hey don't forget my contest. Make me a wacked-out 90 minute mix tape to listen to at work, and the best one wins a glow in the dark misfits shirt and a huge flyer for the misfits show in Madrid, spain on march 28, 1996. Now, as an added incentive, I'll give you a flyer for the misfits show in Richmond, va on april 29, 1996, just for entering the contest. to enter, email me at: s0bswhit@cabell.vcu.edu love bloooooooodfeest ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 00:47:03 -0500 From: TES777 Subject: What did you lose... Hello to all you fiends out in Bibleland, well back to making you lazy asses move and send in you birthdays. You know you want to be in the calendar, you know you want this calendar on your wall for the coming year. And how many of you friends will be envious of you cause the best they get is their name penciled in to a calendar on their birthdays cause otherwise we would just up and forget. So do the right thing and join the other fiends who will have their birthdays under the best pictures, and art of Glenn, Jerry, Doyle, Bobby's arm (just joking Bobby we should get a good picture of you that has more than just you arm) and many others. Now to the bits and pieces. To Unholy Tom, I have to say that yours was the best post on Friday and the first that i have heard in quite awhile that has not knocked Glenn. It seems to me that lately during the tour a lot of you have formed some negative attitude about Glenn. He doesn't live up to your standards anymore. He's not as good as Michale. He wouldn't have amounted to anything if it wasn't for Jerry. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!!! Now you should know this is coming from a Fan that likes all the bands, not just the Glenn stuff. The reason i like the Misfits was the band as a whole, and what the songs were based on. Glenn being compared to Michale is as unfair as Michale being compared to Glenn. One voice is over 20 years of developing, several band and types of music and the other is being used for the first time. No one has the right to say that one is better than the other when one is not experienced enough. Glenn seems to have fallen from your graces because he is not the lead of the Misfits anymore. You probably hoped that he would go back, right? Though again none of us had the right to even hope for that. He wanted to go forward and if you know him well enough there is no one who can stop or change his mind. There is a determination in that man that you can see in his eyes when he talks about whatever project he is working on. That is why i don't and never will believe that Jerry carried him. He was turned down by Marvel comics back in the days of the Misfits, yet that never stopped him and now he has his own comic book company. Or do you think he was carried to that too. Well i can't say what actually happend back in the days when the Misfits were together, only someone who was there all the time and could be not swayed to one side of this argument. I just know i'm sick of the constant Glenn bashing. Oh and even though i don't agree or disagree for that matter about the EVB thing, for one she is not a GROUPIE, i've seen and met those things that creep and crawl around the buses. She's a collector and a fan just like the rest of us, but had more success than others at getting the records and stuff she wanted. Enough, later to the fiendies. TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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