Misfits Bible, Number 191 Friday, June 14th 1996 Today's Topics: milwaukee metal fest hitler vic vacuum Message from Mike koneful Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Box Set - All Hell Breaks Loose Bobby Rockabilia Times Square at The Pyramid interesting Re: Misfits Bible, #190 stuff louisville the "new" misfits Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Bloodfeast 2 bobby....uhh Bible 190 My uncle used to love me but she died Re: Misfits Bible, #190 unsubscribe... hellhound's opinions Reply's Misfits fanzine hitler, bobby, michael, roselands BOOTLEGS *special sale!* *UPDATE ON SPECIAL SALE!!!!!!! Bible Post Previous Bible, Black Flag Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Part1 Re:190 THE UNDEAD / TIMES SQUARE MAILING LIST torch666 wants to know Once More Around the Block... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:32:02 +0200 Subject: milwaukee metal fest Misfits headlining? that sounds pretty cool. I went to the fest last year. I went there liking death metal, then I left absolutely hating it. Typ O negative was awesome though. the reason i got turned off from death metal was because i was there for abot 12 hours, and finally eard how bad it really was, and plus i hate the real fans. "yeah! satan rules!" everyone with there stupid whaddya call symbol with their hands. yknow that stupid satan hand gesture.... it's so effin lame. anyway- i guess id go again if misfits play.. oh yeah, and CC, cause they're funny. -greg ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:40:57 +0200 Subject: hitler Mr. Steele... good point about hitler.. one question though. did you mean to say 600 million? that's an awful lot. it is actually 6 mil. i hope you saying 600 was just a hyperbole. I hear all this stuff about NAZI skins... is everyone positive that the skins were nazis? I hope yo people know that not all skins are Nazis... such as SHARPS (skin head against racial prejudice)... if they were nazis, sorry i wrote this, cause they suck.. but i don't want the good guys getting a bad name. -greg petre ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:47:30 +0200 Subject: vic vacuum oh..i had to add this: Vic vacuum is a fat fuck!!! -greg petre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 17:25:43 0500 From: Justin Subject: Message from Mike koneful Hi Chipmonk To all you fucking stupid people out there that are "huge" MiSFiTS fans but still trash Glenn, listen: He wrote all the the songs you are saying you love to trash him as a songwriter is wrong, as a person its okay because he isn't the most pleasant person in the world. Hah!I'm going to the Green River and te Fluid tonite, bye. Mike ------------------------------ From: Mark Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:35:27 -0400 (EDT) > From: Russ Rockefeller > Subject: BLOODFEAST 2? > > I remember reading an interview regarding the misfits doing the > soundtrack for the sequal to the movie bloodfeast. Bloodfeast is > available at my local video rental store as well as a few others from the > Herschell Gordon Lewis genre, however to no avail have i been able to > even discover if bloodfeast 2 is really in existence. If anyone has a I don't know if this movie was ever made - I don't think so. Either way, The Misfits never recorded a song for its soundtrack. > From go@ns.oon.or.jp > Is Ev777@aol.com really Eerie von's email?i hope i'm not talking to some > one who is prentending to be Eerie for some derranged reason. This is Eerie's address, but someone has recently forged mail from him. And now for what I was waiting for... > From: David Arthur Aufox > Subject: chicago show > i thought that jerry and doyle were > looking for someone with his own presense? well they found someone who > sounds and looks like glenn. (not his fault) but it is the fault of > jerry and doyle for doing it and trying to replace glenn with himself. Jerry and Doyle were looking for someone who could do the songs correctly and who had the voice, look, and writing ability to help them continue the band. Michale is this person. I have a feeling that many of you who complain that Michale is too much like Glenn, would be complaining even MORE if Jerry and Doyle had selected someone completely unlike Glenn. It's a no-win situation for people like that. > metalheads will > support anything their idols do, that is why 98% of the people on this > list concider the misfits to be infailible. they arn't nothing and no one > is, maybe you will leanr that someday. I think you should change the word from "metalheads" to "people." > secuirty. another point. obviously jerry doesn't care about that fans > like he says he does. sure sign autographe for ever that is the easy way > out from actually caring about their saftey. lesson for all people not > from chicago or not fmailiar with it (including many on this list who > live here) sercurity is notorius for beating up on fans. that is why they > aren't around so much. i knew exactly what was going to happen as soon as > i saw them there. they beat the shit out of people for no reason. All of them care about the safety of the people they consider their fans. Did you miss the issue in which the Allentown show was reviewed? They stopped playing because of the skinheads fighting with people. At the DC show there was some fighting and both Jerry and Michale spoke up against it. I believe something similar happened at the Cleveland show as well. I don't think they consider the trouble-makers who come onstage and bother them to be fans. However, that doesn't make beating the shit out of anybody okay, in my opinion. > musicly they were terrible, probably the tightest they everb had been. That almost sounds like a contradiction. > but chud has got to go he sufered the largest burden on why they were > terrible hat night. he drums as if he was in slayer and the drums were > terrible as a result. Chud's style is different than previous Misfits drummers, but I don't that's any reason to say he sucks. > the music sounded metalized like earth ad. for the first time ever i have > said a bnd butchered their own songs. the mifits did. they riun > everything. I still don't understand your comparisons of Earth AD to metal. I would think that you, as such an anti-metal extremist (as if there aren't a million better things to be against), would have a better understanding of what heavy metal sounds like. There are no guitar solos on the Earth AD album, the songs don't last longer than 1 or 2 minutes - it's just a different production style and a faster paced album. Most Misfits fans I know prefer that stuff to the Static Age stuff for some reason. Perhaps you're not a Misfits fan. > they are no longer a punk band. pure and simle they play bad > metal. they have done the unthinkible they have taken excellent songs and > truned them to shit. It sounds like it was the worst experience of your life and your ears are probably hurting from that 'shit' you were forced to listen to. How noble of you to stand through the infinite torture of this evil metal (aka SHIT) band, so you could present us with your summary of their downfall. > to anyone who knows the band. i would hope you would covay my thoughts on > them and their stance to fan saftey at their shows. many poeple who have > liked the band long before metallica covered them left the show after > seeing mike hit that guy and the way the secruity was treating the crowd. Don't worry. They read every issue. They'll see this, just as they have seen you trash them in the past. > it isn't worth it. i am digusted with the the new incarnation of the > misfits. Perhaps this is the wrong mailing list for you then. The new incarnation of the Misfits will be the topic of almost every future issue as you can imagine. Anyway David, I'm glad you actually went to the show to give them a chance. I think you were way too hard on them and expected too much out of the show, but at least you saw/heard for yourself. I hope you don't take my sarcasm the wrong way. I just want to point out that this is the band's first tour in about 12 years and a lot of things have changed for them. The clubs they played in back in the early 80's/late 70's were different from the ones they play in now, and many back then didn't have security. There's a HIGH probability that the guys really aren't aware of how badly security treats the fans from time to time. They try to do what they can - they rescheduled the Detroit show just because of 3 people on this mailing list. They do take the safety, as well as the opinions, of their fans seriously. This is also Michale's first tour as well as his first real experience with dealing with such devoted/crazy/random fans. His stage presence may also take years to develop. Imagine seeing The Misfits back in the Cough/Cool days, before they had a guitarist. Do you think it was fun to watch Glenn hit the keyboards for an hour? Back then he had long shaggy hair, as did Jerry. They would have seemed like a different band. The Misfits of the old days were not above fighting with their fans. One of the videos widely distributed among fans shows Glenn getting in a fight with somebody onstage, and we've all heard plenty about the Elite Club show where they started a riot and Doyle hit someone on the head with his guitar. Finally, in every crowd there will be people who aren't going to be happy. There are currently 778 people subscribed to this list, and tons of others who don't have email or who just look at the web page. For all of the disappointed people I have encountered (the small handful on this mailing list included), I have found there are 50-100 others who love what's going on. > From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.com > Subject: Danzig III > Ok...the 1st danzig 3 I bought was from K-Mart...It said like > Limited Edition, or Special Edition...something like that. Later I sold > it. The other day I bought Danzig 3 again. This time the disc had the > art from the cover on it. The 1st one had the skull knife > thing...Whats up? The one you bought first was a limited edition box set version with a different cover. The second one was the regular issue. mark ------------------------------ From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:39:58 EDT Subject: Box Set - All Hell Breaks Loose >Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:24:48 -0400 >From: Dick Tate >Subject: Box Set..Earth AD > Ok, i've noticed some questions about the the box have> So >i'll fill those of you in on it. First off its a 4 CD set, with a >fiend >club pin, and a nice book full of pictures and lyrics, plus an Eerie >Von >article on the bands history. The cds are basically all the stuff from >77 >to Glenns departure. This does include just about every version of >every >song they did in that time. It only has one version of All Hell Breaks Lose, a live version, which in my opinion doesn't sound that good. The version on Walk Among Us is good. Can't wait to hear it live at Roseland (NYC) on 06/28... DeViLoCkXXX Demon I am, Misfits we are... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:48:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Xxiippyy Subject: Bobby Hey Bobby! I got your response to my little addition to the bible. I take it you didn't like what I had to say. Basicaly I don't really give a shit! The satements I made in no way reflect how I feel about you or what you've done; past, present or future. I am also not going to apologize for what I said. If you want to try and educate us on the real story, go ahead! I support you. But also, if some of us just want to hear the music and not the dog puke, just let us. I took the the two minutes to let the Fiends know how a show went and that I enjoyed the show without the Rikki Lake hour attached. It is a shame you don't resepect that. Good luck with your new bands, I am sure they will do just fine. :) Xxiippyy Someone (xxipppyy) mentioned that he likes the MISFITS and he doesn't care how much they fuck someone over etc... Adolph Hitler did some good things, too. He created Germany's highway system for one. He was also a good painter. So; in your sense of logic. "Hitler was a wonderful, great guy", right? We should ignore the 600 million Jews thing. Right? A scumbag is a scumbag. Period. And this from a college student. Don't you make any consideration about 'decency'. Should we forgive John Wayne Gacy, since he did do some cool artwork himself? Xxiippyy ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:27:59 -0400 Subject: Rockabilia For the shirt, I think "Kennedy's The Reason" on the back or sleeve would be perfect. As for Rockabilia. Okay, I've looked at their catalog....FORGET THEM! If you want shirts, order them through the Fiend Club. If you want boots, check my list on the page I'll help you out and I won't make you pay 20 bucks for a stinkin 90 minute tape!!! Which is leading up to a plan I'm working on.... Chris ------------------------------ From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:50:40 EDT Subject: Times Square at The Pyramid >Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:40:38 PST >Subject: XXX >From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) > >To: dragon_soul@AOL.COM > >Hey, > > You got my name right, but you got the spelling >and instrument wrong >BTW I play guitar and sing in THE UNDEAD. I play bass in TIMES SQUARE. >TIMES SQUARE are playing at THE PYRAMID in New York City on June 21st. WHere's the Pyramid? Never heard of it, would like to check it out... DeViLoCkXXX ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:10:00 -0400 Subject: interesting while looking through my box set booklet last night i saw two interesting things. 1) on the blurry picture of the frache'/mr. jim lineup part of glenn's jacket sleeve has three stripes on it. one is red,and other black and another yellow. the three colors of the german flag. i don't know the significance of this but it is interesting. maybe it's for his heritage, maybe...who knows? 2) in the picture where you can see glenn and jerry's backs jerry has "misfits" painted above a skull, under the skull he has "undead" painted on there. very interesting. sorry if this stuff has been posted before but, i don't remember it. D.EVIL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:52:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #190 From: Adrock@usa.pipeline.com (Brent Williamson) "Hitler was a wonderful, great guy", right? We should ignore the 600 million Jews thing. Right? A scumbag is a scumbag. Period. And this from a college student. Don't you make any consideration about 'decency'. Should we forgive John Wayne Gacy, since he did do some cool artwork himself? Comparing the Misfits to Hitler? No wonder your ass is out of the band,Your a idiot As for your comments on the band running from you?? They would shove every can of hair spray that you had up your ass. If you want to dis the Misfits do it on the Poison bible that you created,not here. ------------------------------ Subject: stuff Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:40:25 EDT From: Blood Feast hey today(6-14) is my birthday (cuz I don't think I sent mine in) but anyway I'm not taking anymore entries for my contest after today. so if you wanna enter it today send me email. I'll annonce the winner after I get all the tapes and find out who it is. love bloodfeast ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:46:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jackal Subject: louisville Hey Fiends, I noticed several of you were at the Louisville show and did not post the set list, so here it is for those who are interested. Halloween*Horror Business*I tuned into a Martian*Death Comes Ripping*All Hell Breaks Loose*The Hunger*Static Age*TV Casualty*HYbrid Moments*Last Caress*Skulls*Devil's Whorehouse* REturn of the Fly*Teenagers from MArs*Children In Heat*Violent World*Vampira*Black Light*The Haunting*20 Eyes*Hollywood Babylon*Horror Hotel*Ghouls Night Out*Attitude*London Dungeon*Astro Zombies*Hate Breeders*Bullet*We are 138 Encore: Green Hell*Queen Wasp*Devilock*Bloodfeast*Mommy....*Come Back*Some Kinda Hate*American Nightmare*Die, Die My Darling. Also I don't know if anyone noticed, but one of the new songs, Mars Attack was playing after the show was over. Over the pa system. Jackal ------------------------------ From: Feb31959@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:56:50 -0400 Subject: the "new" misfits I saw the "new" misfits last week and I just wanna say how pathetic. those guys are a buch of sold out motherfuckers. the misfits died along with all punk rock back in 1980. now that green day has come along to make a profit from so-called "punk" music everyone wants to jump on the band wagon. that jerry only character has got to go, hes sixty years old for god's sake, and bobby steal? he looked like some football player. I couldn't see the drummer cuz he was hiding from the crowd behind his stupid motley crue drumset, and what a moron that new singer is. what a terrible ripoff of glen danzig. He's like a Elvis impersonater or something. I think glen danzig should sue their asses off for using his songs and calling it the misfits. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:57:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven Langerholc Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Re: that Dave guy who put down the Misfits as a metal band(?) Jeez, I really love it when I see that "them and us" attitude. Why the hell do "metalheads" have to hate "punks" or vice versa(yes I realize you didn't say anything about them hating each other, but you obviously have a large amount of hatred for "metalheads")? I'm sorry, this whole thing sounds confusing to me. But then again, I'm just a neanderthalic metalhead who got into the Misfits from hearing Metallica's covers and I therefore have no right to call myself a Misfits fan. I like metal, I like some punk bands like DK, Bad Religion(if they even count now), and the Sex Pistols. I hate it when people stereotype. I like how someone can just say "metal is crap period". Interesting that someone can make such a broad statement about an entire genre of music. Whatever. You're entitled to that opinion. Shit, I really hope this doesn't start a metal vs. punk arguement. Steve Langerholc ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:28:29 -0400 Subject: Bloodfeast 2 As far as I know, although it might have been planned when the Misftis were still together (at the time the i/v in question was done), the sequel to the "grand-daddy of all gore films", Bloodfeast, was never filmed. If it was, it's news to me since I've seen thousands of horror films and have never heard a word about that one. Having a Misfits song in the soundtrack would have been a thousand fold improvement of the original film's music which you could say was, well, very "experimental". If only the film "Bloodfeast" was as good as the song ... - BILE666 (Long live Fuad Ramses!). PS -- I got the Stone Pony show from a video dealer, not a store. If you want it, write to: Brian Allison/105 McCabe Ave./Apt. #307/Bradley Beach, NJ/07720. It was $20. Someone said that $20 was too much for a video. If you're paying less than that for a video, than you're lucky because most of the places (like record shows, toy shows, horror movie conventions) where I've seen bootleg videos for sale, not only concert videos but rare horror films, uncut prints from European prints or laser disk, $20 is the BASIC price. If someone wants to, they can get a copy of the video from me and be in charge of making copies of it for any of the fiends out there who want one. I don't have the time to run off that many copies and deal with sending them all out. So if someone out there wants to act as the distribution head, e-mail me and let me know. I don't care about people getting it for free after I paid $20 for it, I just don't want to have to deal with it ... ------------------------------ From: The Mocellas Subject: bobby....uhh Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 21:43:08 -0400 hi guys. i just had to comment on what BOBBY S. said last issue concerning xxxippy's post. WHAT THE FUCK? uh....how can you compare stealing money to the MASS MURDER OF GERMANY'S JEWISH POPULATION? besides, you said that john wayne gacy should not be forgiven for his crimes because he painted well. no shit. but if you are subjectively analyzing HIS ART, it does not FUCKING MATTER what he did. xxxippy enjoys the MUSIC the 'fits made, regardless of their personal actions. you have to seperate an artist from his art. after all, van gogh was a MAJOR fuck up, but he seems to be doing alright in the art world. geez. ------------------------------ From: JediMas138@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 22:21:26 -0400 Subject: Bible 190 Hello. I've Got 1 Measley Cent To Post For This Bible. Here It Goes. Torch-Your A Dork. Thanks EveryOne! Darklord, JediMaster138 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:27:37 -0400 (EDT) From: RYAN_JAS@bentley.edu Subject: My uncle used to love me but she died Michale whatever his stupid ass name is, does not seem like a pussy, just an average punk with an average voice. Maybe Im wrong but nothing was ever average about the misfits. No. I am not wrong. Wake up fiends!! There is no feeling left in these new misfits. 138 from way back when ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:07:00 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Hello there fiends, D-Rod here hiting hard, scanning the bible and digging deep, >Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 03:57:04 -0400 (EST) >From: Russ Rockefeller >Subject: BLOODFEAST 2? >greetings Fiends! >Has everyone yanked all the misfits interviews off of the misfits >homepage yet? >If not then do so, if so then do not. >I remember reading an interview regarding the misfits doing the >soundtrack for the sequal to the movie bloodfeast. Bloodfeast is >available at my local video rental store as well as a few others from the >Herschell Gordon Lewis genre, however to no avail have i been able to >even discover if bloodfeast 2 I also remember reading that but I think that movie never happened for what ever reason. Yeah Glenn had thought and was supposed to do the score, I dont think it was a Misfits project. >Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:24:48 -0400 >From: Dick Tate >Subject: Box Set..Earth AD >The cds are basically all the stuff from 77 >to Glenns departure. This does include just about every version of every >song they did in that time. The only drawback is that its all been on past >albums. Well the one thing it is missing is WAU, I mean it has tracks on there but not the recordings that went on to the WAU album. Because it wasnt a plan 9 or caroline release. That is why there is no Braineaters(other then that shitty C2 version) on the box set, it was recorded only once. >From: Pdbedr@aol.com >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:49:12 -0400 >Subject: hello >One thing I want to say is that there is too much complaining going on here. >I mean there is so much cool stuff going on , so why bother with all the >bitching. Also some of you are very uncomprimising, I mean who cares if the >misfits are touring with Anthrax! Anthrax wont make the misfits play bad, >so who cares! I mean the box set and all that has happened could never run >its course, I mean I find somthing new to ponder all the time. Like what >does everybody think is the better track between the ones on the sessions >disc and what made it to the actual records. What is the difference between >guitarists , drummers??? I mean bobby a bit twangy and a bit more stylized, >as with franche but more thunderous, and doiyle speed and crunch! What do >you guys think is the best. Even though all fit respectivelly in each album. Well my favorite line up is the WAU line up of Glenn, Jerry, Doyle, and Googy. I just love that album, There is not a weak spot on it, and with 3 hits from hell ( iknow bobby was on there also). The sound the look was just perfect. They seemed to have more direction at that point. They seemed more focused. But again I say that is one of the great attributes to the Misfits is the difference between some of the recordings. And as for the which do I like better between the box and regular releases. Well that is tough I go back and forth. I have to say that the alternate versions are great to hear for a change of pace but the stuff that actually made it I prefer, with the exception of Halloween II. I love the box version , the sound is great and its much spookier then the 7ä version, and who doesnt love the ending? and its good to have you here I havent seen anything this good come from somone so new. I also have all the page printed up and I find it very usefull to have all misfits, samhain, danzig, and undead at my fingertips, so keep up the good work. D-Rod ãHas left the Buildingä ------------------------------ From: "Minya, son of god...zilla" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:17:41 EDT Subject: unsubscribe... I put it off as long as I could and now school's out, so goodbye fiends, see you next year. yeah, you too, motherfucker... _____________________________________ Minya p.o.box 362 bristol vt. 05443 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:39:51 PST Subject: hellhound's opinions From: "Jay P." I like the idea of the CG at a computer. The screen should have the website on it. The logo in purple sounds really cool. Quotes at the end: I like 'em, I think they really show what the person is thinking. Some do need to be shortened though. Really like the reservoir dog one, "Cause your a faggot, that's why." BTW my favorite RD is Mr. Blonde. Jolanta: Graves was well behaved at the Boston show. EAD is some of the best stuff the misfits have ever done. David: could your post have been a little longer and harder to read?? Run a spellcheck **PLEASE**. As for your opinions on metal and it's fans. I can't argue about the music because that's your opinion, but not all metal fans are assholes. For example: Me. I could have written "If you hate metal then fuck you, your so fucking stupid. metal rules!" but I didn't because I respect your opinion, so stop ragging on metalheads. C. Sylvester: same thing about length. gotogo see ya!! HELLHOUND "Broken bodies in a death rock dance hall. Please be my partner. Eyeballs pop accelerated blood heat. Veins 'a' shakin'......And All Hell Breaks Loose!!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:24:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dalkiel Subject: Reply's >DANZIG V IS ALREADY RECORDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OK! Recording was finished in November, but Glenn wishes to release it on Evilive, and rumours say that he is in court with American >his tour starts June 20th (go see his new homepage) Where? The one on American? >Joey castrell from from Alice In Chains did the guitar His name is Jerry Cantrell. You mixed his name with the drummers' >That "sugar-tooth" guy is STILL the drummer Joey Castillo, that is >Is Ev777@aol.com really Eerie von's email? Yes. but don't bother him to much..he's a busy guy >Anyway, I wanted to let you all in on a secret that I heard from a >VERY reliable source. Have any of you been wondering why Glenn >hasn't put out Danzig V? It's because Danzig isn't together any >more...blah blah... I do believe whoever wrote this was trying to be funny, no one can be that stupid... Dalkiel ------------------------------ From: Keith138@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:57:11 -0400 Subject: Misfits fanzine Hey , Fiends ! Just wanted to let you know that issue # 3 of ANGRY RED Misfits / Samhain / Danzig fanzine is now available. This issue features an interview with Eerie Von , reviews of the Bighouse Clifton gig and Misfits Detroit and Cleveland shows , plus lots of great photos.There is also an article on Fiend related model kits , the obligatory full color 11 x 17" color poster , opinion poll , trivia , classified ads , and plenty of artwork. Cost is $ 2 . Back issues of # 2 are still available for $2 as well , but # 1 is no longer available , sorry! Should have got one while you had the chance! Keith Huening 5883 Kyles Station , Hamilton , Ohio 45011 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:03:24 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: hitler, bobby, michael, roselands um, bobby last i heard was that around 20 million jews where victems of the holocaust, if your talking victem rates like 600 million you must be thinking of the catholics, not the nazi's i also read an interesting article about how hitler's doctor perscribed over 30 different drugs, including cocain, morphine, methadone, and dolphamine; whose side effects include paranoia, megalomania, delusions, and a bunch of other unhealthy thought-proccesses, it was during these drug-induced stupors that he came up with such ^brilliant^ (sarcasm for you people on aol)ideas as the holocaust, fighting a two front war, a no retreat policy, and the werewolf brigades (ok you have to admit that this was actually a good idea). not that this is any excuse for the atrocities that he caused, its just sort of makes you think. oh, anyways at the allentown show the misfits probably didn't jump into the crowd because they aren't stupid, if they would have done that at worst they would have gotten there asses kicked by over 30 nazi assholes, and at best they would have caused a riot resulting a lot more injuries. they stopped playing which stopped the fight almost immediatly. and no, the nazi's weren't bigger than the regular kids, most of them were rather puny little cowards who wouldn't start shit unless they had at least ten of there friends to back them up. you can bet that if there are less than 10 skins at a show they will be the most well behaved people there, out of fear of getting a boot to their face. michael graves... sounding and looking like danzig, hmm not at the 3 shows i saw him at. maybe the real danzig filled in for that show or something. michael doesn't sound like glenn at all. glenn has a better voice, and sings the songs a little better. he doesn't look like glenn either, he's taller and doesn't have a big nose like glenn did. check out some old misfits videos and you'll see the differences... well i'm going to the roselands show in 2 weeks, anyone want to meet at the show? say like during anthrax's set downstairs? :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:29:55 -0400 Subject: BOOTLEGS All right, everyone. Since there are all these rip-offs going around with outrageously expensive boots floating around, Mark and myself have discussed this and decided to start a cheap way to get these boots around so the rip-offs can finally stop! If you check the page under the Collectors or News sections, my list will be there along with information as to what we're doing. Basically, tapes will be sold at $5 per 90 minutes blocks, or trades will also be accepted. This is a low and fair price....considering the fact that there are people out there who sell tapes for as much as $20 for a tape, and who's to say they are good for it? I have dealt with people on the Bible for a couple of years now and many people can and I'm sure will vouch for me that I am good for this. Check the page...if you have any questions feel free to e-mail me at ChristoTer@aol.com [The text from the page is included below.] Fiends! The following is a list of my shows. Please feel free to pass this list around to any of your friends or whomever may appreciate this. The cost will be $5 PER 90 MINUTES. Trades are also welcome and encouraged!!! Expect there to be about 2-3 weeks for you to get your tape...although it will probably take less time. I will tape any and all of this stuff---it is all AUDIO ONLY. No videos will be made. THE MISFITS Max's Kansas City 12/22/78 (incomplete) 18 minutes Live! 79 The Perfect Crime! 8 minutes Uncle Floyd's Show 10/31/80 8 minutes Fair Lawn Demos 6/81 15 minutes The Pit 1981 30 minutes Ukranian Hall 10/30/81 30 minutes The Ritz 12/17/81 30 minutes Hittsville 12/25/81 30 minutes 9:30 Club 2/28/82 40 minutes Irving Plaza 3/27/82 40 minutes Al's Bar 4/17/82 55 minutes Baltimore 1982 (incomplete) 6 minutes City Club 9/25/82 45 minutes Eagle's Lodge 9/26/82 13 minutes Finder's Lounge 10/19/82 43 minutes Wilson Center 10/22/82 30 minutes N.A.C.C. 10/31/82 40 minutes "Why Be Something You're Not?" 1/7/83 35 minutes Henry Ford Community Center 1/7/83 65 minutes Goleta Center 1/21/83 30 minutes New Orleans 1/83 15 minutes Channel Club 3/20/83 55 minutes P.U.N.X. #4 4/8/83 45 minutes Michigan Union 4/27/83 45 minutes Earth AD Demos 6/11/83 20 minutes Graystone Hall 10/29/83 65 minutes PROEDGE REHEARSAL SESSIONS Proedge 11/22/94 with John Grimm 22 minutes Proedge 11/22/94 no vocals 22 minutes Proedge 1/2/95 with John Grimm 23 minutes Proedge 1/4/95 with John Grimm 15 minutes Proedge 2/18/95 with Eric Weiss 9 minutes Proedge 3/9/95 with Eric Weiss 11 minutes Proedge 3/18/95 with unknown vocalist 7 minutes Proedge 4/24/95 with Michale Graves 5 minutes MISFITS INTERVIEW "All Hell Breaks Loose" Radio Show 5/13/86 120 minutes WSOU interview with Jerry 11/1/88 10 minutes WCLH interview with Glenn 8/18/90 25 minutes WSOU interview with Jerry 4/13/95 100 minutes WCWP interview with Jerry 4/20/95 60 minutes WFMU interview with Jerry 4/20/95 50 minutes KUSF interview with Jerry 6/2/95 38 minutes 3.7 Magazine interview with Jerry 4/29/96 20 minutes NEW MISFITS The Roseland 10/31/95 15 minutes Leicester University 3/14/96 (incomplete) 18 minutes Bradford Rio 3/15/96 70 minutes Middle East Club 5/5/96 70 minutes CONTACT: Chris Ternes 539 Carlsbad Trail Roselle, IL 60172 ChristoTer@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:18:35 -0400 (EDT) From: i Subject: *special sale!* I have managed, through 100% legal non-bootleg methods - to obtain the original blue disk that Mark used to store the Misfits Book and other goodies. The disk has since been retired in favor of a newer, bigger disk. It has a couple of bad sectors - but most of it is intact It's in IBM format, but yo macomaniacs should be able to read the *11* unique info-filled text files! hours of reading! so - this is how we do it: send me a dollar. if yr dollar eight, you get the disk. special mystery prize to the person who sends dollar five! autographs also available (mine and mark's that is) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:46:42 -0400 (EDT) From: i Subject: *UPDATE ON SPECIAL SALE!!!!!!! I HAVE NOW OBTAINED MOREBETTERNEW PRIZES! So now - everyone who sends me a dollar gets something back in the mail! #5 gets a special prize #8 gets the disk! *WITH MATERIAL NOT FEATURED ON THE WEB PAGE* send yr dollars to: 505 16th St. NW Apartment Five Charlottesville, VA 22903 *misfits fans! can you let the oppurtunity to own this historic disk pass you by?* THINK ABOUT IT! Those plates are worth so much. You know, the ones with the Wizard of Oz and Michael Jordan that they sell on TV? This Disk will mature in value faster than you will! ALSO! Losers! consider it a way to get mail! -->djacobs@cs.oberlin.edu http://cs.oberlin.edu/~djacobs/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *ABOLISH THE RACIST DEATH PENALTY* ++++ stop de execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++ ++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++ ------------------------------ From: frick666@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:42:23 -0400 The Ol' Dirty Bastard Live and Uncut! I saw Glenn Danzig at a Wu-Tang Clan show chillin with none other than the o.d.b. check out the ld dirty bastards album to catch the danzig misfits reference in shimmy shimmy ya..... this is frick - out peace to all my eerie von listenin fiends! ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jun 96 18:24:54 EDT From: Paul Holstein <102165.134@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Bible Post Detroit Fiends: Tickets go on sale this Saturday (June 15) for the "The Big Phat" tour at the Phoenix Center Amphitheatre in Pontiac. The bands will be as follows: Clutch The Misfits Anthrax Life of Agony Orange 9mm Cannibal Corpse Core Fu manchu See you there. I be the guy with the Dwarves shirt and two extremely large beers!!! Paul Holstein ------------------------------ From: MR ERIK M LINDBERG Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:38:31, -0500 Subject: Previous Bible, Black Flag WickedKingWicker: This is not a flame, but I'm just wondering why you say everyone who's on the big corporate servers say stupid things. On a big service, there are more people. Since these networks are typically easier to use, so easy, even, that morons and trained monkeys can use them, it stands to reason that there is a greater percentage of idiots on these major nets... Okay, this isn't really that Misfits related, but Robo DID play in them. I was just wondering if anyone knows if there is anything on the web like the Misfits Book for Black Flag. Or if anyone has tons of knowledge on pre-Rollins Black Flag, let me know... -Chubbs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:44:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil E. McAllister" Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Wow, I think you guys showed an impressive amount of restraint in sending out replies to Torch666. Only one or two of you flamed him! I don't know if that's just because you all are silly enough to think he was for real (I mean, come ON his name is Torch for chrissakes! THINK about it...) But that's the way it should be, folks, let's leave the flaming off the Bible unless you're either 101% in the right or you're just really damn witty... Oh yeah, and for all you fans out there (ha!) -- no way in hell can I come up with a design for the Bible T-Shirt with a deadline like "Saturday". Let's be realistic here, I WORK!! Doing a good job takes a little time at least, that's not even one good weekend. You might as well have said "8:30pm tonight". (Any of you rad artists out there who are still living at home with your mom over summer vacation, here's your big chance at stardom!) :-) ------------------------------ From: Pdbedr@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 22:20:47 -0400 Subject: Part1 Hello to all, Well fiends the hybrid one has to let it out and a few things that disturbed from the last issue. And as a matter of fact they have reared their ugly head here before so here goes: >From: go@ns.oon.or.jp >Date: 10 Jun 1996 20:16:24 UT >Subject: DANZIG V read or I WILL kill you >-Qoutes at the end of peoples posts are fucking stupid please don't >waste the space if you like those lyrics/sayings great..don't post 'em >please...i know this will stop no one but then consider this my qoute.. >ater... >***************************************************************************** ** >DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE >......AND IF YOU'RE NOT DEAD YET...DIE SOME MORE PLEASE... >CHAD DILG >HORROR KID EMAIL ME PLEASE I'M ON KADENA AFB OKINAWA JAPAN ALSO IT IS >GO@NS.OON.OR.JP >LATER ...AGAIN Well what the hell do you consider that? Hey if you dont like -Qoutes at the end of peoples posts , then dont put one their yourself. That is just common sense, hypocrite! >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:17:04 -0500 (CDT) >From: David Arthur Aufox >Subject: chicago show before I start this let me just say, you suck. > anyways to that guy talking about metal being dead. no i don't >call those bands alternative so i can like them. one i don't like >alternative, but alternative is better than those bands by far. those >bands are terrible and i wouldn't listen to them regardless of what they >were labled. you're right those bands play metal, and that is why they >are terrible bands. metal is crap period. Well that is one oppinion. Dont come on here thinking that you are the be all end of music. People have different tastes in music. And what makes you thoink that your oppinion is the goods? I mean after reading your post, it is obvious that you are an idiot. >as far as they chicago shows goes, i know have figured out why so many >punks are not into this list and not interested in the misfits anymore... >and why metalheads have taken thier place. First off there is no clear classification of just what the sound or category the Misfits fit into, and who cares if there are metal heads in here? What did metal ever do to you. I have a feeling that a bunch of metal heads and bands and roadies all came to your house late one night and killed your family. If so Im sorry. And if you have a problem with there not being enough true punks here(like yourself) then why dont you do little searching and get them on here. Cant you just appreciate the fact that enough people get on here and care enough to spend valuable time reading and writing to the bible? >the first band was tied with trailer hitch for the worst band i have ever seen. anthrax well as i have >said before they broke up a while ago, but somebody forgot to inform >them.... they were terrible... after seeing them play i was embarssed for >the misfits to be o the same bill (i wasn't aftyer i left) it is amazing >that bands still has somebody willing to put out its lps. as far as the >misfits go. the intro with the films was cool. as was dedicating come >out the only thing that they did right. Antrax just changed singers, and I personally like both. They are ligit and still together. Now how much longer they will last I dont know. But for the movie, I liked it they put allot of time into it, and at the shows I was at the crowd seemed to dig it. So yet again this is your opinion and not the worlds. >mike graves sounds exactly like glenn, it isn't his >fault, that is the wasy he sings. i thought that jerry and doyle were >looking for someone with his own presense? well they found someone who >sounds and looks like glenn. (not his fault) but it is the fault of >jerry and doyle for doing it and trying to replace glenn with himself. he >moved exactly like glenn no origal stage pressence. that is the fualt of >jerry and doyle. first mike is a pussy, he beat the shit out of a kid for >flicking him off.... i was digusted to see that, as were the small number >of punks at the show. the corwd loved it... typical metalhead neanderthal >responce Michale does not sound exactly like Glenn, maybe similiar but not the same. And for his moves he does allot of stuff new like jumping into the crowd from tjhe speakers. When you sing for a band like the misfits there are certain things you must do , like leaning into the audience. And the way he moves is where the music takes you. I mean it is what the music invokes you to do. I know it is how I move to the music. And as for you and your awesome punkers you guys like to make a pit a beat the shit out each other. I hate you guys it almost impossible to enjoy the show with assholes like you. All this punk shit is so stupid, I mean you all wear spike and spiked hair, and leather jackets. You are a joke! That does nothing but inflate your egos to say:hey I am sooooo punk!more punk then you. Why do you want to stereo type all people who are into metal? Im sure all the people are not the cool ass punk like you are but are into just as much if not more, and you wouldnt even know it cuz you write them off at face value. I mean if you are a punker and wear that stuff thats OK, but dont look down on others cuz they dont fit your ideal punker image., >.to make things worse, one of the chicken shit pussy roadies, >came out while the security was beating up the guy and kided him in the >face, fgor no reason. what a pussy.... i am glad he had to prove hjis >toughness to the crowd.... shit i bet he was hoping the metalheads would >make him a saint. they probably did. didn't anthrax actually speak out >against voilence, and get a godd corwd responce.... metalheads will >support anything their idols do, that is why 98% of the people on this >list concider the misfits to be infailible. they arn't nothing and no one >is, maybe you will leanr that someday. Now at one show I was at the security was beating on this one kid who surfed up to the stage, and Michale yelled out for them to stop, and they brought the kid on stage. Why the security does this I dont know, but if It really got bad they would say somthing. >secuirty. another point. obviously jerry doesn't care about that fans >like he says he does. sure sign autographe for ever that is the easy way >out from actually caring about their saftey. lesson for all people not >from chicago or not fmailiar with it (including many on this list who >live here) sercurity is notorius for beating up on fans. that is why they >aren't around so much. i knew exactly what was going to happen as soon as >i saw them there. they beat the shit out of people for no reason. one guy >was getting crushed athrown into security beat the shit out him.... old >metalheads. First of all you would be hard pressed to find a band that cares more about their fans then the Misfits. They do soooo much for their fans, but there is only so much they could do about a situation like that. They do there best, and if you have such a major problem with that then why the fuck didnt stick around to talk to them about it? I am sure they would have appreciated that. And in further shows they would look for it. >sorry but bands that play all music have taken actaion >against that. most don't have secuirity at their shows, and as a result >have had almost no incidents at all, and have no major ones to boot. the >bollwe3evils one time at the metro did a year ago. secruity was there and >was beating people up. bollweevils stopped the show in mid song 5 songs >into their set. they spoke out against it and left. i respoected that b/c >they care for their fans, and will not allow thier music to be the >soundtrack for people getting beaten to. i have heard peral jam does the >same. obvioiusly the misfits (jerry and doyle) could care less about >their saftey of their fans. they didi nothing, thery even had mike add to >it. i was very disgusted. That is stupid, I mean itsd kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face, people came to see a show and if they were to stop playing all the people who didnt get shit and didnt get thrown out would have lost out. Try to think of the big picture. Pearl Jan Huh.....I thought you hated them, they are certanly not punk. >musicly they were terrible, probably the tightest they everb had been. >but chud has got to go he sufered the largest burden on why they were >terrible hat night. he drums as if he was in slayer and the drums were >terrible as a result. the drums were out of place with the music. the >music sounded metalized like earth ad. for the first time ever i have >said a bnd butchered their own songs. the mifits did. they riun >everything. i stood there looking at the band thinking "wow that's jerry >and doyle they used to be in the misfits" whatever that band was they >weren't the misfits, they were a metal band with a glenn imitation (not >mike's fault). it was terrible, now i know why they toured with other bad >metal bands. they are no longer a punk band. pure and simle they play bad >metal. they have done the unthinkible they have taken excellent songs and >truned them to shit. i now no why there are so many metalheadfs who like them ever since >metallica cluded the idiots on to them..... everthing makes sense now and >is far worse than i could have imagined. If the music was so terrible why didnt you just leave? Why didnt you jump up onstage and teach them a thing or two? You seem to know everything, I think you should seriously think about being their mgr, and producer cuz they really need to work on stuff. And you being such a bad ass punker you know how it should be done. Slayer, another refferance to metal...... I dint get into them because of metallica, and I know other people who didnt either. Do you hate Danzig? As a matter of fact lat carress was not availaboe unless you bought a bootleg, and I doubt that anyone who was just curious about the band wouldve paid outragous bux for that. Sorry some of us were not born into this world with a set of spike around our neck, purple hair, and a leather jacket like you. Frankly your holier then thou , I am a punker ass sux, and you are an idiot. Punk is an attitude a vibe, a do it yourself thing and have no one regulate your music, and like it or not that is what the Misfits are doing. So in short go jump off a bridge, and do the world a favor. Or start your own punk band with all these awesome punk ideals and then kill yourslef, the ultimate punk conclusion. And you and sid can chat about how lame the bands are now. Sorry for the long post, and in pieces my mail can only send dtuff so big and I didnt want to missquote his moronic ass, I hope this guy pissed some of you all off. Hybrid Child ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:05:58 -0500 From: Aleksandra Subject: Re:190 Hello I have a friend who doesn't have excess to a computer so I read him the Bible. I have a message from him concerning the post that Dave put out about the Chicago concert- You sound like a damn fucking dick. Analyzing every little thing, the drums, the way Michale moved. If you didn't like the way the Misfits sounded you should of left the show, no one was asking you to stay. You talked about how Michale beating up the guy, the crowd cheered him on,-typical metalhead neanderthal response. Violence has always been a part of punk. Take for example the Sex Pistols. Sid V. played with bloody noses because he got into fights with the crowd. Jerry and Doyle did not pick Michale to have Glen"s presence they picked Michale for his talent. If you don't like the Misfits then don't fuckin" listen to them. I and many others think they're great. Jerry and Doyle care about their fans, didn't you read about thier earlier concerts, how fuckin' Neo-Nazis were beating up some kid. They stopped the song and went to help out the kid then kicked the Nazi out. Metalheads? I saw more punks their than metalheads(the metalheads left when the Misfits came on)The punks were there and were there after the concert to meet the MISFITS. Dave, Obviously you haven't been paying enough attention to the posts lately- alot of fiends were skeptical about the Misfits with the new lead singer. But many have found out the Michale has talent and with time he will get better and better. I don't think any group is infailible(I liked the old Metallica, the new Metallica sucks and Cliff Burton is rolling in his grave right now). Michale is not a Pussy, he never got a bloody nose at the Chicago concert,and his shirt was ripped off after he jumped off the balcony. (To set the record straight) To Carl(csylvest), I met you at the Chicago concert. Ps.Anyone have the chicago concert on tape if so please contact me. Sorry so long. Maria spinner@xcite.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:54:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Jackal Hey Fiends, I'm wanting to get in touch with Brent Eyestone (I think thats his name) about wanting to get one of his video's and I've lost his email address. So Brent if you read this or anyone else who has his email address please give it to me. One more thing, remember back when the box set came out how everyone was trying to figure out what some of the correct lyrics were. Ok listen to Wolfs Blood I believe it is the second chorus. the book says And I feel my heart is dead And I feel my muscles twitch And I feel my stomach split And I Know I'm not a man Ok where it says "And I feel my stomach split" it sounds to me like he says "And I feel my cock burn". Please listen to this and tell me what you think. I know he say "and I feel my stomach split" the first chorus, but not in the second. Well I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed that. Smitty Jackal on the Mirc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:09:41 PST Subject: THE UNDEAD / TIMES SQUARE MAILING LIST From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) FIENDS, The response to THE UNDEAD / TIMES SQUARE MAILING LIST has been pretty good. I've had about 15 replies so far. If you're interested . . . email me and I'll put you on it. If you just want to get an idea of what TIMES SQUARE sounds like; check out our web site at: http://www.con2.com:80/~elaphe/t-square.html I had the misfortune (heheheh) of a visit from Crimson Ghost and PRH this past Tuesday. Those two together are nutz. I had a great time, and I'll tell ya, CG's an alright guy - even if he is from New Jersey. I'm sure he'll have plenty to say about it, so I'll leave it at that. TIMES SQUARE is playing next Friday, June 21, at THE PYRAMID, 101 Ave 'A', NYC. I hope to see some of you there. Be sure to come over and say HI. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:42:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Adema Subject: torch666 wants to know Hello again from Canada. torch666, you wanted to know where all the boys from Danzig went? Well, Chuck is filling in for his late brother in the Four Horsemen. His brother died, so Chuck wanted to help out the band. Check out some of their new material, it's not too bad, but nothing like Danzig or 'fits. John is studying classical guitar somewhere in the northern states. This is what he likes, classical guitar, which is why he's not in the Danzig lineup anymore (Glenn likes simple chords, and John apparently wanted to do fancy solos). Eerie I think is doing solo stuff or else starting up a new band. The new Danzig album is coming out in late summer/ early fall. Well, seein' as how I've been using my school's server for e-mailing and stuff, and I don't have the net at home, this will be my last posting until I get linked up at home. Sorry to break all your hearts, but I promise I'll be back some time soon. turn the lights down low Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:04:12 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Once More Around the Block... To all the artistic fiends: this is it, you ***MUST*** have you art into Mark by late Saturday and that is it. IF you need it to be scanned then you have to get it mailed to Mark or Me. I do have a scanner and can save it in the correct file format. If any problems come up in the next 2 days please contact me so we can keep on schedual. As far as i can see we will know what image is going on the front of the t-shirt by the end of this coming week. So you need to be reading the bible on this coming Monday and Wednesday to find out how to vote for your fave image. Keep the cool art coming and to remind you it's an Image of the Crimson Ghost doing something that relates to the Misfits and the Bible. ***NO COLOR, BLACK AND WHITE ONLY*** Later to the little fiendies, TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. MMMM MMMM MMMMM MMMMM FFFFFFFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTTT MMMMM MMMMM III SSSS FFFFF III TTTTTT SSSSS MMMMMM MMMMMM IIII SSSSSSS FFF IIII TTTT SSS SS MMMMMMMMMMMMMM IIII SSSS SS FFFFFFF III TTT SSSS MMM MMMMMM MMM III SSSSS FFFFFF III TTT SSSSSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSSS FFF IIII TTT S SSS MMM MMMM MMM III SSS SSS FFF IIII TTT SSS SSSS M M MM MM II SSSSSS FFF III TT SSSSSSS M F II top Misfits Bible, Number 192 Monday, June 17th 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Misfits Bible, #191 Thank you guys! Xxiippyy etc. Children In Heat- the Chicago 7 (8) uneasy listening Danzig III Visiting "Booby Steele"! Finally, my view on Chicago Misfits sighting & comments You're An Idiot... Misfits sighting Great Chicago Fiends, etc. Some 'Fits stuff, some not Corpus Christi Show bla bla bla Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Re: Misfits Bible, #191 Re: Misfits Bible, #191 Re: Misfits Bible, #191 last couple issues misfits bashers hello from cyberia ;) Doyle Steele??? MISFITS RULED IN ROCHESTER!! Auction . . . and the MARGE SCHOTT AWARD GOES TO . . . Just some shit... back again... Bible 191 Re: Misfits Bible, #191 *Attention All Bible Subscribers and Mirc Users* Chris Ternes/ Bullshit in Baltimore subscribe !!!!!!! End ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dean, Mike SrA (20CS/SCSNT)" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 12:02:00 PDT does anybody like gg allin.......willing to sell/trade items? ------------------------------ Date: 14 JUN 96 15:31:49 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Hi fiends! Count me in for a shirt. I think the CG sitting at a PC (or Mac) is cool idea, you should also show a mouse in his hand, but it appear to be a live one (not the computer kind, if you catch the pun) but i cant draw it so its just a thought! Earth AD?? Its a killer album, one that got most of my hardcore fiends hooked on the 'fits, but I started out with WAU so that is still my fave, but shit, any Misfits album is better than most other bands would ever do! Hoping to hit the Roseland show, Asbury convention center and then Action Park. One thing i noticed on the shows I've seen and plan to see. 1. Stone Poney - $13 2. Allentown - $15 3. Roseland - $17.50 4. Asbury - $20 What is this pattern? If this keeps up, by the time the tour next summer, it will be like the friggin Eagles @ a $100 a pop!! My opinion, ditch the dead weight and extra cost of Anthrax and Cannibal Corpse, support the misfits with local bands, and keep the cost down. I dont know if they got legal bills to pay or what, but $20 is getting steep! Granted, I paid $27.50 for Pistols tix today, but shit, they got heroin habits to feed and Ronnie Biggs to pay! Cool thing about seeing the 'fits in NYC and Asbury at least will be that the Hammerskins wont be there to show their lack of cerebral activity. "That is not dead which can eternal lie, yet with strange eons, even death may die" HP Lovecraft AZ ------------------------------ From: Mark Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #191 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:04:36 -0400 (EDT) > From: EvilDieff@aol.com > 2) in the picture where you can see glenn and jerry's backs jerry has > "misfits" painted above a skull, under the skull he has "undead" painted on > there. very interesting. In fact, Jerry scratched that off his jacket after Bobby formed The Undead, I guess because he didn't like them. That picture of Jerry was taken before the 'feud' began. > From: MR ERIK M LINDBERG > Okay, this isn't really that Misfits related, but Robo DID play in > them. I was just wondering if anyone knows if there is anything on > the web like the Misfits Book for Black Flag. Or if anyone has tons > of knowledge on pre-Rollins Black Flag, let me know... > -Chubbs Hey Chubbs - I do have a small Black Flag discography in the related bands discography in the Misfits Book, if you haven't checked that out yet. mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:15:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Xxiippyy Subject: Thank you guys! I just wanted to say thanks to all of you that stuck up for me and the music. I appreciate it! I don't want tons of people pissed off at anyone, it just seems that the music is forgotten too often. I'm not even gonna bother mentioning the names of the famous/infamous people that were mentioned in replies and responses to my original posting. They do not matter and it would be a waste of your time if I did mention them. Besides, once steele starts to rust, even with a paint job, the rust comes through. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:37:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Bone Machine Subject: Xxiippyy etc. I think what Xxiippyy was trying to say is something that I have thought many times while scanning the Bible. I enjoy hearing about the music and any upcoming shows or projects, but that seems to get overwhelmed by all of the constant bullshit of everyone trying to be cooler than the rest. It seems like so often the Misfits take the back seat to everyone's petty gripes about other subscribers. I subscribe to get cool information, not to read someone belittle another fiend to make themselves feel more adequate as a human. That is fucking stupid and childish. Thank you and goodnight... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:39:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "J. Jorden" Subject: Children In Heat- the Chicago 7 (8) Ok Ok, you guys might think I'm crazy but I think I figured out what=20 Children in Heat is about. The Chicago 7 (8) involved with the riots=20 outside of the Democratic National Convention in 68(?) here goes: "Children in heat they have no conscience, no resistence. You gotta see this big reaction, no resistance." The riot happened in the summer, it was mainly young war protesters. It was on TV (see this big reaction) and they were easily quashed by a police in riot gear. "Celephane sex, a new way of life..." flower children, hippies, free love, blah blah. "Pissin blood for seven days." well that's the 7 reference, dunno if that's a reach? :) "You cant control them... they're always gonna run away." "... are young kindle wood, I see them burning, They all changed their name to Chicago" kindling wood, burning... makes sense dont it? Chicago... the Chicago Well I dunno. That's the best explanation for that song and especially the Chicago & 7 references. Think about it... '68 danzig was in what... Jr High School or elementary? He saw the riots on TV. Then when he's in a "punk" band he's writing a song. Perhaps about revolutionaries from the 60's (already his favorite time frame) like Bobby Seale and Abby Hoffman. jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:47:53 -0500 (CDT) From: David Arthur Aufox Subject: mark, it is real interesting how you believe the misfits to be infallible. nothing is perfect. i refuse to cast anyone on a pedistle. as far as graves goes.... it isn't his fault he sounds like glenn, personally i think he has a very good voice, and his stage presence isn't his fault either. i doubt he was the one one who watched glennn and said i will look like this one stage. i believe that if jerry wanted to replace glenn almost exactly he did a good job, but it should be admitted that was the case. it isn't graves fault on that issue. my definition of metal is obviously different from yours. guitar solos do not make a difference on what is metal or what is not metal or what is or is not punk. shit the decendents have guitar solos, so mark, they must be a metal band huh? nope. metal is in the style of guitar playing usually lost of muting, it is also in the style of teh attack. the difference between punk and metal is the use of muting (mostly the e string) and getting that chunck a chuckna sound, verse chord progressions in poppier punk and discordance and dissonce in emo orineted punk. soundgarden, typo negitive (later stuff, earlier they had more of hardcore feel), white zombie, biohazard etc... are all metal bands.... pegboy, big black slint, june of 44, shellac, gauge, sludeworth, and cap'n jazz are punk. musicly metal and punk are worlds apart. when i said that they were tighter than anything i have heard them do live before i ment it. it wasn't a contradiction, you can be very well together and still sound like crap. as far as being anti-metal well if that is the worst thing anyone ever calls me..... i think metal is simply crap musicly. the fans of metal i have encountered are idiots. i don't think that listening to mtel makes one an idiot, but i have found that most idiots listen to metal. i don't loose sleep or care about metal or anything what does bother me, interfere with things that i enjoy. and that is where the misfits come into being.... i like the misfits alsot. they used to be my favorite band at one time. and seeing people destroy something that was once good is agrevating. that is what is happening here. metal simply is terrible music, but what makes it worse is the mindset of the people who listen to it. as far as voilence at shows.... yes, glenn did get into fights at shows... does that make it right? no, it would be pointless me me to criticise the band for doing shit like that back then concidering that i was around 6 at the time. but i can and will critize any band that does that now. mike had no right in hitting that guy, and that psuuy little roadie who ran out just to kick a guy who was getting chocked in the face b/c he had to kiss graves' ass was inexcusible. jerry did nothing. that's not true he kept playing. exactly opposite of what he should have done. point is if a band regardless of what music they play is going to claim to care about the fans act like it.if all they do is sign things and talk with people that doesn't equal out aloowing people to be hurt at a show. doyle almost refuses to interact with the fans from what i have heard. as far as chud goes....yes, he is different from other drummers they have had. he sucks, he isn't that good at what he does, and he is doing thw wrong thing to begin with. with a different drummer and stopped truning the songs into metal musicly things would be better. as for the security thing bullshit mark. it isn't too hard to find out anything about what a city's clubs are like in that respect, also they could have told security to knock it off. they didn't do either. aisde from playing the typical places PUNK bands play that have no violence, they were left witrh security that beats the shit out of people for fun. they could have stopped that though by telling security before hand what not to do.. i'm glad they read this mark. maybe they will actually learn something. but i want to hear from them a responce to this. b/c their behavior is unaccptible. if they are going to play metal that is fine they should just admit it. but there is no excuse for allowing that behavoir to occur in security asnd within the bands and it tour staff. i refuse to kiss thier ass unlike some. -dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:40:18 -0700 From: adam bodnar Subject: uneasy listening CD NOW! has the Eerie Von/Mike Morance "Uneasy Listening" album available on advanced order (sale price $12.97 for CD, $8.99 for Cassette). The release date is scheduled for July 2/96. This whole Hilter/Misfits debate that just started up is fucking retarded. Bobby Steele's comments were completely unnecessary and pointless. Good rebuttle...yeah, right? It amazes me how many times he criticizes a fiend for being a college student. What...is there something shameful about getting an education? Gee, I wonder if Steele himself has a college/university degree?...or could this be why he is so fond (sarcasm intended) of college students. Why can't a college student express his or her opinion. What is Bobby the only one who is allowed to think independently? What happened to freedom of speech? Just because we aren't OLD, doesn't mean we don't know anything? Where does he get such divine knowledge? Old age...I don't think so! Who would have thought it was so uncool to be a college student? Wow, I think we should all drop out of University, start a band, get into a big fight with the lead singer and the bass player, and then 13 years down the road (when we're broke) bitch and complain about 50,000 dollars due to us in royalties over a few songs which we never even wrote, but just played while we were in the band. Whoever made the comment in last friday's bible about Steele always going into a "Ricki Lake" commentary hit the ball right on the mark. Was there some lesson that we were supposed to learn from his remarks...gee, I must have missed it! DIABOLOS '96 **************************************************************************** "Go suck my mother fucking...(sexual organ located in the lower abdominal area), no man, it's dick!!! - Anthrax (I'm the Man EP) **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.com Date: 14 Jun 1996 14:16:18 EDT Subject: Danzig III OK...My copy of Danzig III has the number 26914-2, in 3 places, the CD, thees, the CD, the book and the side of the paper inlay. The disc has the art from the cover on it. And by the way the cover to this is the normal one, not the different one from the box. The # on the box that I read on the page, is no where on this, yet the art on this disc is the same as the box version of it. Wierd Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 19:30:18 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Visiting "Booby Steele"! >I had the misfortune (heheheh) of a visit from Crimson Ghost and >PRH this past Tuesday. Those two together are nutz. I had a great time, >and I'll tell ya, CG's an alright guy - even if he is from New Jersey. >I'm sure he'll have plenty to say about it, so I'll leave it at that. hehehehe - Misfortune my ass! - We bought you dinner you cheap fucker!! hehehehehehhehehehehHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH In the short time that Patricia & I were with Bobby we had alot of fun. It was so fucking funny walking down the street with him and having ton's of "brothaz" callin' him "Spider" We didn't get it til hours later, Somebody prolly once asked him why he walked funny - and of course Bobby had to tell the truth, "I have Spina-bifida..." it's not a far stretch that some dumb mother fucker figured he said Spider-ripida or something, hehehe "Oh I don't know...just keep these tan!" In the course of walking 8 blocks Bobby was called "Spider", "Milton" and somebody even pointed and said "Hey look it's Keith Richards" HAHAHAHAHA I can honestly say at this point that Bobby is a great guy!! Well, let me qualify that... He's great as long as you can steer the subject away from the Misfits... but we already knew that. All around I'd have to rate his sorry ass an 8 on the "Punk-as-Fuck-o-meter" Now gimme some more of your Chicken Sate ya bastard... The really funny shit happened after Patricia and I left Bobby's... We went to get on the PATH Train to head back to Joizy and we got fucked. Those fucking automatic money taker machines wouldn't take our money, So nutty Denmother just fuckin' jumps over the turnstile, me, being the dopey fuck that I am, follows suit. Ok great now we're on the train for free! we have to take it all the way to Newark and change trains, then we gotta pay again. Fuck! Same thing Fuckin machine won't take our money, more turnstile jumping! Great we're $5.00 up on the Port Authority at this point! Now we get back to the Parking garage and the fucker's closed and chained off :( there sits Patricia's rental car ready to r'n'r but we can't get the fucking thing out. They expect us to walk three blocks to the attended lot...In JERSEY CITY!! AT NIGHT Fuck That! Now me, being the dick I am, I start doing doughnuts in the parking lot, Trish is getting pissed, She walks up the the chain (I really thought she was just gonna bite it off) She looks it over, sees the padlock, looks at the other end and it's held on by a fucking nut and bolt! The bitch just reaches down and unscrews it! hehehehe SAVINGS $13.00 add that to the $5 from the PATH and we really made out OK!!! Bobby would have been proud!!! Shit, with all that Saved $$$ maybe we should have let him get that dessert he begged for! hehehe In the near future Patricia and I will review the Times Square demo tape. Believe it or not they really rock! Much better than the Undead ever dreamed of being! Sorry Bobby, but that's just how I see it. til Next time................. ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ "Mr. Brown, Mr. White, Mr. Blonde, Mr. Blue, Mr. Orange, Mr Pink...." "Why am I Mr. Pink" "Because you're a Faggot, alright?" The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ Operator's Manual http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ From: Jaymz666@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:04:20 -0400 Subject: Finally, my view on Chicago Okay. Im a little late for posting this, but Ive been extremely busy lately. June 7, 1995 - Chicago, IL - Vic Theater What can I say about this show?!?!? Waited in line with a mixed crowd sporting anything from a devilock to nice clean cut hair, and a variety of fan wear. . .shirts anywhere from KISS to Oasis (?) to Ramones, etc. Being a fan of both bands on the bill, I was completely psyched for this show. Ive been an Anthrax fan for many years, and contrary to the thoughts before, they never broke up, they just pulled in a newly talented vocalist, just as the Misfits did. Since there are probably a number of metalheads subscribed, Ill go through the Anthrax show as well, so if your not a fan, just skip this paragraph. After the completely shitty opening act, Vic Vacuum and the Attachments (I dont understand why bad bands open up for really cool ones, first Gren, then the Deftones, then the Cows, and now this!!!) Anthrax hit the stage digging their claws in and ripping through a set of Thrax classics. Opened up with Caught in a Mosh and played their way through songs like Got the Time, Random Acts of Senseless Violence, and even Startin Up a Posse. They were in top form, playing much better than when I saw them in December. They were a tight knit group of great musicians who are far from washed up. The only thing they may be washed up by would be their popularity. Back to the underground. . . Now onto the Misfits. . . WOW!!! What can I say about these guys! Being Im only a 17 year old, Ive only been listening since 1992, this was the LOUDEST and most WILD show Ive ever been to. I thought the two Ramones shows were insane! The drums, as explained before, are gigantic, the floor tom looking like a big fucking cannon, protruding with spikes to make it look just up the Misfits alley. I was against the barricade, on Doyles side, and got a great view of the little glow in the dark Crimson Ghosts on his wall of sound. The movie was completely insane! If somehow a transcription of the movies would surface, post it right away! Chud walked out then Doyle and Jerry, with the out of this world guitars, and then Michale, who scared the complete shit out of me. The Crimson Ghost makeup was brilliant! Fit him great! The vocals didnt come through too well through the PA due to the heavy distortion on both guitars and the thundering drums, but from what I heard, Michale is a great replacement for Glenn. While possessing some Glenn qualities, he does have a style of his own. I actually didnt think he was acting like Glenn too much, but thats just my opinion. During Children. . . for some reason still unkown to me, Michale got into a little rumble with a dick up front. The guy, and these people still bother me!, tried to get away from the gaurds who were escorting him out. Why do people get into fights at shows, begin to get kicked out, and still try and fuck with security? Security will always win, its a given. It was nice to hear some Only vocals too! While Michale was climbing up to the balcony, Jerry vocalized Ghouls Night Out, which was quite a highlight! The new songs sound GREAT! I personally like The Hunger the best, but Black Light and The Haunting come in a close second! Due to some reason unbeknownst to many, there is some curfew in Chicago that I guess states that shows have to be over by 11:00. This prevented the encores to be presented, but they did get a chance to play two more songs after We Are 138. Even though Jerry promised to play us Eagles, they didnt get a chance to, but went through Come Back which they dedicated to a fan who recently passed away. Ive never been a big fan of this song, BUT it was great this time. It sounded really good! They closed the show with Die Die My Darling and left the stage. Unfortunately, I left right after the show and didnt get a chance to meet up with the band or any other Bible people, but hey. . .NEXT TIME!!! The set list to this show was almost identical to all the others, but Ill post it anyway. Halloween Horror Business I Tuned Into a Martian Death Comes Ripping All Hell Breaks Loose The Hunger Static Age TV Casualty Hybrid Moments Last Caress Skulls Devil's Whorehouse Return of the Fly Teenagers from Mars Children In Heat (half Michale vocals half Jerry) Violent World Vampira Black Light The Haunting 20 Eyes Hollywood Babylon Horror Hotel Ghouls Night Out (Jerry vocals) Attitude London Dungeon Astro Zombies Hate Breeders Bullet We are 138 Come Back Die, Die My Darling. Overall, it was a great show!!! Michale is a great singer and is filling Glenns shoes well! Now onto the Metalfest! Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 22:52:35 PST Subject: Misfits sighting & comments From: "Jay P." Had a misfits sighting I ment to tell you all about. A few weeks ago I was watching Rage TV (Music show here) and they played a Fred Shniender (sp?) video. He was the faggy guy in the B52's. I guess he's solo now. Well anyway, in this video they showed a kid wearing a misfits t-shirt for like a second. I think it was one of the new shirts with the Jurek CG. Anyone else see this video??? Mark, loved your reply to that David guy. Way to go! gotogo bye HELLHOUND "Yea evil is as evil does and who, who but me could write this book of cruel. I send my murdergrm to all these monster kids. It comes right back to me signed in their parents blood.....And All Hell Breaks Loose!!!" ------------------------------ From: JediMas138@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:54:18 -0400 Subject: You're An Idiot... >I Saw The New Misfits Last Week And I Just Wanna Say How Pathetic. Those Guys >Are A Bunch Of Sold Out Motherfuckers. The Misfits Died Along With All punk Rock In >1980. Now That Green Day Has Come Along to Make A profit from So Called "punk" >Music Everyone Wants To Jump On The Band Wagon. That Jerry Only Character Has >Got To Go. Hes Sixty Years Old For Gods Sake, And Bobby Steal? He Looked Like >Some Football Player. I Couldn't See The Drummer cuz He Was Hiding From The >crowd Behind His Stupid Motley Crue Drumset, And What A Moron That New Singer Is. >What A Terrible Ripoff Of Glenn Danzig. He's Like An Elvis Impersonator Or Something. >I Think Glenn Danzig Should Sue Thier Asses Off For Using His Songs And Calling It >The Misfits. You Are A Loser! How Can You Say That About The Misfits W/ Or W/out Glenn. Oh, And That Is The Correct Spelling. G-L-E-N-N. Who The Hell Cares If There Was A Sold Out Crowd Or Not. That Means They're Starting Their New Carear Off To A GOOD Start. The Misfits Are A Band For Every Body To Like And Love. And They Sure As Hell Didn't Die. Didn't You See Them? How Can They Be Dead If You Saw Them! Its All About The Soul And The Music. I Don't Care Who's Up There Singing Or Drumming. As Long As Its The Misfits Playing The Great Songs That They Like To Play, And We Like To Hear. What Does Green Day Have To Do With Any Thing! You Really Are A Loser. I Hope, If You Go To Another Show Fixin' To Start Trouble, I Hope Doyle Has Total Deja' Vu And Beans You Right In the Head Just Like He Did That One Kid. That Would Knock Some Sense Into You. And If You Didn't Already Know, They Already Went To Court But The Misfits Got The Right To The Name. You're A Dork And 1/2. JediMaster138 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:40:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Jackal Subject: Misfits sighting On Friday on TnT they were showing the movie Toy Soldiers. Ok about 25 min. into the movie when the main character (the kid, I don't recall his name) goes into his dorm type room, he's talking to this other kid, and in the back ground is a GIANT Fiend club poster (cg skull) hanging on the wall, it looks like it is silk. Next to it is another poster of just a CG skull. Smitty Jackal on the Mirc Ps. sorry if this has been posted, but I've been here for sometime and I don't recall it being posted. ------------------------------ From: Gouge3@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:35:21 -0400 Subject: Great Chicago Fiends, etc. I just want to say that I am proud to be a part of all the Chicago fiends. It seems like there is a great base here for the band that has spoken very highly (for the most part) about the Misfits show a week ago. This show of support is great. Sometimes I get down on Chicago for the lack of support I see for "heavier music." But this rave for The Misfits contradicts any of those bad feelings. Rock on. "Kennedy's the Reason" on the back of the shirt kicks ass. Not only will that be a fun play on words that only us Bible fiends will get (and hopefully make new people inquire about the list), but it also pays tribute to one of the biggest reasons that the Bible exists: Mark Kennedy. You rule, dude. Brent - the "Evil is as Evil Does" video rocks - thanks. I love the cover. You got it to me so quickly!!!! Gouge comes ripping. BTW - whoever said that their roomate thought Glenn was saying "Buttfeast" instead of "Bloodfeast" ---- that fucking kills me! I think of that every time I hear the song! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 13:19:03 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: Some 'Fits stuff, some not Hello Fiend Bastards and Bee-atches, I have a few things to share, opinions and what not. -The Bobby Steele comment on Hitler: Hey kids, lighten the fuck up. I mean, granted, Hitler had some pretty shitty things done, but BOBBY was trying to make a point (I forget what it was) and it was taken out of context and you guys went apeshit. I think this was the sarcasm he posted about a few months ago that he doesn't often share because everyone and their sister takes it wrong. I'll say... -Greg Petre: Hey Greg, just a comment on your comment about the "good guy" skinheads. I've known/met White Power Skins and SHARPS/Unity skins. Lemme tell you: there are assholes on both sides of the fence. As far as I'm concerned, they're just extremists of different kinds. It's either "If you *don't* hate everyone, I'm gonna kick yer ass!" or "If you hate *anyone* I'm gonna kick yer ass!" Let's take things on individual bases, kids, *some* people are assholes, *some* people are cool, no matter what race they are, group membership they have, or music they listen to. Half the problems on this list come from broad sweeping generalizations. It would be cool if people could keep in line during the shows, though: whether they be Nazis, SHARPS, jocks, punks, metalheads, or those rowdy fuggin' computer geeks... -OK, now that I sound like a complete fuggin' Nazi, let me address WICKEDKINGWICKER. (Sorry if I fuct up yer name.) The Werewolves blew!!! Good idea, but didn't work for shit. Himmler lied about they're progress to his boss and when it came down to the test, they didn't stop shit. Also, I saw a documentary recently about the Russians' search for Uncle Adolf in the war's last days, and when they did find him, they autopsied his body and found he only had *one* testicle. Hitler was cruisin' the uni-ball!!!!! "Oh, Eva!!!..." -NEIL: Hey, I tried to write politely to Torch666 because I didn't want to give him any attention on the Bible. I was thinking, Hey, maybe this kid has been living in a cave or something, or maybe he's a jack-ass trying to get us riled up. My guess is he/she got their rocks off... -German Tri-color Patch on Glenn's Arm: This is just based on what I've heard about Glennard, but as I understand it, he's very interested in WWI and WWII, and he's also, as some of my Chicano friends would say, "down for La Raza." But it's his "raza" (think about, it- it has an English cognate) that he's down for... -BIBLE T-shirt: Hey, I'm really fucking touched by all of you who took the time to comment on my post about the shirt with CG on the computer. Aw, fuck, I'm dripping on my keyboard. Anyway, sincerely, thank you for the "feedback." (I'm taking summer school COMM classes.) Now one of you talented bastards needs to draw it up!!!!!!!!!!!!! -TUCSON, AZ MISFITS SHOW: OK, now for the most important part of this post. I can't wait 'til the 14 of August. Should be slick. And if you fellas (Da Band) reads this, I will be there with a shit-eatin' grin (I'm pretty sure it'll be a first). I'm gonna try to get a crew of big crazy muthafuggaz to go. I'll be the small one in their midst. Anyway, I'm figuring y'all will have your own nice clean hotel rooms somewhere downtown, but if you want to relive the old days, I have my own place and the floor isn't too uncomfortable. :) And if any of you kids reading this are in Tucson, or will be for the show in August, I'll pray for your sanity. Oh yeah, throw me an e-mail, too. We can hide from the sun's scrutiny during the day in my dungeon and emerge as the ghouls we are that night... ON A FINAL NOTE, I'm hoping I don't get too many flames from y'all. I'm thinking a bunch of you way too sensitive fiends are going to bitch me out and call me a Nazi. Oh well, you can only do so much for the ignorant and narrow-minded... Rick James is the messiah, Ben(ito) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If ya can't find a partner, use a wooden chair. Let's rock!" -The King Ben Todd toddb@gas.uug.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:33:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Rebecca Simpson Pease Subject: Corpus Christi Show Hey FIENDS: I just discovered the Bible and this is my first posting. Well, I am elated to announce that I attended the Man Or God/Anthrax/MISFITS show in Corpus Christi, TX on June 12. My sister scored one of Doyle's armbands and I got an autograph and a kiss from the one and Only, Jerry. IT WAS AMAZING! (The MISFITS show, of course) Anthrax was even ok, except that they whined during the whole second half of their performance because someone stole their microphone ("We're gonna stop playing if we don't get our mic back. It's a shame for one prick to ruin the show for everybody." Blah, Blah, Blah). They sounded like elementary school teachers. What wienies! Anyway, as a die-hard MISFITS fan, I think the new lineup with Michael Graves is GRRRREAT!!! I whole-heartedly approve of him as a singer and performer (He wears his devilock well) and I think he is a perfectly acceptable replacement for Glenn Danzig. The vintage MISFITS tunes were skillfully resurrected and mastered live. The new songs promise a true return to the MISFITS horror rock that we all know and love. Jerry Only and Doyle are better than ever and play like the true living spook legends that they are. To those of you who have the vile, stinking gall to complain about the resurrection ("They didn't play where I wanted them to." or "The drums were off." or "Michael Graves jumped into the crowd and kicked my wussy little ass." or whatever): WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!? After thirteen years of an agonizing void, the MISFITS are alive and well!!! Thank your lucky stars, quit your bitchin', and appreciate it. To those of you who haven't seen them live on the new tour yet, PLEASE DO. And buy a tour shirt while you're there, they're beautiful with a colorful version of Earth A.D. on the front. I'll go out on a limb and guarantee that you'll love the show if you're a true MISFITS fan. It'll change your life. It sure as hell changed mine. YOURS GHOULIE; scabigail ------------------------------ From: andykryst@madbbs.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 03:22:58 -0500 Subject: bla bla bla hello all this is my first post.and all i have got to say is all this blasting back and forth is just stupid.i dont care if your if you have an opinon.just stop mmessing with other peoples right of having one.anothher thing im sick of hearing is the misfits have turned metal. big god damned deal if they have(i saw them in toronto and i dont rememmber the word metal coming to mind)the misfits are doing what they want.if you dont like what they are doing shut your ears and your mouths.because i dont care if you aprove of someones lifestyle or job. the misfits are a bunch of guys working for a living that just happens to coinside with our lives.i myself am on the bible because i like the music,not the politcs.everyone cryes about bla bla not doing ssomthin becuse he whatever.i love the show revues and the news of releases and the trading not the personal war shit.if you want a war do on your own time not mine.people tend to let things get out of control.just keep your cool orr email them personaly.because i dont care.i dont want to read two people fighting back and forth through like 10 bibles..... get a grip.no one cares. my fav.line up is glenn,jerry,doyle,goggy.my fav.album is WAU my fav.song is the slower version of 20 eyes off the sessions disk from the box set.the misfits rule and if youve got a problem wiith this post eemail me at andykryst@madbbs.com thats all ive got to say for now. andykryst prime directive exterminate the whole human race. €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ MMBBS: (716)483-2851 Telnet to: madbbs.com Web Page: www.madbbs.com €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ ------------------------------ From: "Roger Holmes" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:25:18 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #190 Hey dave, You are intitled to you opinion, but hey, you opinion sucks. I guess that would be my opinion right. Oh well, I saw them three times in three nights and they were the best nights of my life (and NO I am not a virgin thank you). It seems to me that pretty much everyone who has seen them live is of the opinion that they rule and the people that think they suck are just a bunch of Danzig worshipers that would gladly suck the guys cock if he were to let them. So, in the words of the late and sometimes bordering on great g.g allin "bite it you scum" Later Roger ------------------------------ From: "Roger Holmes" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:41:27 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #191 Feb, You are a cocksucker. If you are going to grease the band at least know what the hell you are talking about. Bobby Steal on guitar? Duh. You fuckin moron. Not only did you spell his name wrong but you're off by about 16 years dipshit. The reason people like you are and dave the know it all are still alive is because it's against the law to kill you. Just my opinion though. roger ------------------------------ From: "Roger Holmes" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:45:11 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #191 Ryan, no feeling left in the misfits? were you under the influence of sedatives when you saw them or what roger ------------------------------ From: "Roger Holmes" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:58:10 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #191 Hey everyone, There is a comic out (well its acually a mag type thing in comic format) with a 6 page article on the fits with new pics and everything. I have it on hold for me at my local comic store and Ill pick it up next week and transcribe it if someone hasnt already. Also, to the guy who is compiling a misfits cover tune tape. What is the deal on it. email me and let me know because I know of a local band that is interested. Tks Roger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 23:04:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Fama Subject: last couple issues just got my dad's computer back (getting it upgraded) and had a chance to read the last couple bibles... 1: *estimated* # of jews dead in "holocaust" = 6 million (**NOT** 20 or 600 million as a few mentioned) 2: not sure on the # of Catholics who died, but there is NO way it was 200 million. I read somewhere (in an actual history book...some of you guys should try it) that the total estimated dead during WWII was around 50 million (maybe that's for Europe only though...can't remember) ...anyway, Catholics were not systematically killed like jews, gays, and gypsies were. They were often sent to camps if they protested too much against the government (as was anybody). -Brett "you shove them in an oven and they start to cook" ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 00:02:17 +0200 Subject: misfits bashers I say all misfits bashers should get the f off this list... everybody's always screaming "SELL OUTS" I hear it with greenday, rancid, metallica, and now the Misfits. i guess sexpistols are gonna be next eh? Bullfragginshit. That's effin dumb. anyone who "ressurects"an old band, or goes soft, or becomes popular is a friggin sell out according to some of you.. some bands like to try new stuff, some like to change styles completely... Anyone who's been in a band knows it's fun. but if they make money...or people start liking them, you say "they're posers! i knew them when they were small time." if a band starts making money, they've sold out?! i say that if theyre making money; MORE POWER TO THEM. money is good. sheesh... -greg petre -greg petre sheesh ------------------------------ From: "Konstantin V. Istomin" Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:44:49 +0700 Subject: hello from cyberia ;) Hi, Fiends ! I'm Nick from Siberia. I'm here to hail all of you. C ya ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 10:53:51 PST Subject: Doyle Steele??? From: "Jay P." To Feb31959: the reason that "Bobby Steele" (you didn't spell it right BTW) looked like "some football player" was that that was DOYLE, NOT BOBBY STEELE. Thought I'd let you know. Hellhound ------------------------------ From: satan@relex.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:05:22 -0400 Subject: MISFITS RULED IN ROCHESTER!! I saw The Fits in Rochester a few weeks ago, (my internet was down).. It was fucking amazing. They came out and fucking ripped into halloween. I was right at the front of the stagem and the stage was like 2 feet tall so I was basically half on the stage. And let me say this,.. David Arthur Aufox is a fucking idiot!!!!!!!!! His message regarding how the Misifts suck and graves suck was stupid. It is absolutely wrong!!!!!! Graves waas fucking Great..... He jumped down to me in TV Casualty and let me sing the please dont feed my television screen verse and in 20 eyes he jumped down to me again and let me sing like half of fucking 20 eyes. It was fucking great. Graves does add his own touch to the fits... he was jumping trying to hang off these things on the celing but he kept Missing and falling into the crowd... I thought Graves was great... Chuds set was amazing witht hose huge spikes... Doyle broke a string or 2 in the first 20 seconds of Halloween. Only seemed really excited to beack out there. After the show Only ran over to the place where they sold shit and got behind the counter and started selling shirts!!!!! That was cool I bought one from him, talked to him for a minute got an autographed and went looking for Graves. I didnt get graves but got everyone else. The show was great. The Misifits are definetely back. now I just can't wait to see them again! So everyone fuckin ruled and anyone hwo says they dont rule now is a waste of carbon... MISFITS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 12:06:52 -0400 Subject: Auction In an attempt for me to get more funds... I am auctioning off a Max's Xmas t-shirt. X-tra large. Autographed by Jerry Only and Doyle. I don't expect too much for this, so if you want this, don't be intimidated to give me a offer. I'll stop taking bids on the 20th. Jay---Mr. Pink! David, I think...Mr. Punk rock. I also find some of the negative comments about us fans of metal to be a bit childish. We are not all two years old here. Maybe we should start acting like it. I personally feel that this guy's immaturity gives all you punk rock people a bad name.... Also, I feel that Hellhound and myself are both not assholes....gee there's a certain nice guy who happens to run this mailing list and a nice Web Page who is an Anthrax fan. Do you thing that he's an asshole? You listen to this guy and wonder why the Glen Benton type wants to kill everyone with green hair. I also find this interesting....I'll bet that if someone comes out and insults a homosexual or a black man for being what they are, you'd jump on that person for being a homophobe/bigot. But, gee Mr. Hyprocrite can insult a whole group of people for the music they listen to. Why am I wasting my time responding to this jerk off? I'll stop right now. Holocaust---for some reason 12 million people is sticking out as the figure--not that matters. It was a lot. Also, werewolf brigades? Whoa. Yeah, that doctor--Heidegger, I think--was a strange fellow (personally, if you want to point the blame...look at Goebbles just as much as Hitler). He actually did a number of experiments with cloning, both in Germany and in Argentina after he split with his Nazi buddies and with the help of the US government......None of this belongs in the Bible though, I just think it's fascinating... Chicago security----these guys are doing their jobs. That's my opinion. I've been to many Chicago shows and never once had a bad experience. GUESS WHY!!! When a security guard wants to grab a crowd surfer, I'll help him grab him/push him away. When he's standing up on the bar and is about to fall, I'll grab onto him and help him get down. When he does something as insignificant as ask me what time it is, I'll answer him! This is common politeness, in my opinion. Of course, no one else seems to feel this way. I've seen people attack Chicago security, spit on them, and knock them off the barrier when they're trying to push crowd surfers away from the stage. Gee, I wonder why they're dicks. Actually, I think a lot of them are good guys----I was at the Fight show last summer....the security guard offered to hold my glasses--I had a case and everything, but he offered and I accepted--half way through the show he hands me and one of my friends a bottle of water, and he was constantly making sure that we were all doing okay. Just because they have a shirt that says "security" doesn't make them a subhuman asshole that is below you. Also, it seems not many people are familiar with Web Search Engines. Go into http://www.yahoo.com You can type in a word and it searches the Web for possible matches. There's a couple new Danzig pages around, so go into Yahoo, type in Danzig and boom--instant links! This should work with anything you're into....whether it's Hitler, porn, or Goethe. Sorry for the length... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 12:30:02 PST Subject: . . . and the MARGE SCHOTT AWARD GOES TO . . . From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) >From: "Dorin M. Petre" >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:40:57 +0200 >Subject: hitler > >Mr. Steele... >good point about hitler.. >one question though. did you mean to say 600 million? that's an >awful lot. it is actually 6 mil. i hope you saying 600 was just a >hyperbole. I guess I leaned on my keyboard a little too hard; but you got the gist of what I was saying. Unfortunately, some others just didn't get it. >I hear all this stuff about NAZI skins... is everyone positive that >the skins were nazis? I hope yo people know that not all skins are >Nazis... such as SHARPS (skin head against racial prejudice)... >if they were nazis, sorry i wrote this, cause they suck.. but i don't >want the good guys getting a bad name. About five years ago, THE UNDEAD had a show canceled after some Sharp skins beat the fuck, and I think -killed, a guy because they thought he was a nazi, at the club the day before our show. He was jewish. Zealots, of any kind are dangerous. Fortunately, this is the worst case I've heard, so Hopefully they're policing their own ranks now. There's no room for nazis in this scene. >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:48:28 -0500 (CDT) >From: Xxiippyy >Subject: Bobby >Hey Bobby! >I got your response to my little addition to the bible. I take it you >didn't like what I had to say. As far as being offended, no I wasn't offended. I just figured I'd make an analogy. When you support a person who does scummy things to others - you are also supporting the scummy shit they do, not just their art. You are saying 'I approve of your actions', in their mind. You are also giving them the money they need to further their wrongdoing. Hitler didn't start off by killing Jews. Jeffrey Dahmer tortured animals for years before he went after people. Evil is as evil does. Little evils can become BIG evils. Do you actually like the fact that THE MISFITS have fucked me out of my share of all that money. Do you approve of someone going to the press and lying about someone, with the sole intent of destroying their character? Would you approve of someone doing it to you? And don't say you wouldn't let them do it. If I had no conscience; I'd know exactly how to stop Jerry from saying any more shit about me. >Basically I don't really give a shit! The satements I made in no way reflect >how I feel about you or what you've done; past, present or future. I am >also not going to apologize for what I said. If you want to try and educate >us on the real story, go ahead! I support you. But also, if some of us >just want to hear the music and not the dog puke, just let us. It could be YOU. >I took the the two minutes to let the Fiends know how a show went and that I >enjoyed the show without the Rikki Lake hour attached. It is a shame you >don't resepect that. Basically, I don't give a shit! >Good luck with your new bands, I am sure they will do just fine. :) > From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:50:40 EDT > Subject: Times Square at The Pyramid >WHere's the Pyramid? Never heard of it, would like to check it out... >DeViLoCkXXX TIMES SQUARE will be at the PYRAMID, 101 AVE 'A' (between 6th & 7th St), on Friday, June 21st. Be sure to say HI ! >From: EvilDieff@aol.com >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:10:00 -0400 >Subject: interesting > >while looking through my box set booklet last night i saw two interesting >things. >1) on the blurry picture of the frache'/mr. jim lineup part of glenn's jacket >sleeve has three stripes on it. one is red,and other black and another >yellow. the three colors of the german flag. i don't know the significance of >this but it is interesting. maybe it's for his heritage, maybe...who knows? Glenn's Italian! Back in 77 - 80, the nazi thing was considered cool - for shock effect. It was started by the RAMONES - a Jewish band from Queens. It was something to scare our parents. I knew lots of Jewish punks that wore swastikas back then. After awhile, certain clueless idiots (metalheads?) got the wrong idea, and started to take it seriously -so it was stopped. >2) in the picture where you can see glenn and jerry's backs jerry has >"misfits" painted above a skull, under the skull he has "undead" painted on >there. very interesting. Jerry has mentioned that before. The two of us had discussed the fact that we'd both always wanted to have a band that was a bit poppier than THE MISFITS, and call it THE UNDEAD. In fact, in the summer of '79 while at Jerry's father's house, we seriously talked about it. His idea was to 'fake' our own deaths, and come back a year later . . . as THE UNDEAD. I figured that, since he already had THE MISFITS, there'd be no reason why I couldn't go on and use a name that I'd always wanted to use since 1972. Back in those days no one wanted to be in a band called THE UNDEAD. So now, I'm accused of 'stealing' his name. >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:52:50 -0400 >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #190 >From: Adrock@usa.pipeline.com (Brent Williamson) > >"Hitler was a wonderful, great >guy", right? We should ignore the 600 million Jews thing. Right? A >scumbag is a scumbag. Period. And this from a college student. Don't you >make any consideration about 'decency'. Should we forgive John Wayne >Gacy, since he did do some cool artwork himself? >Comparing the Misfits to Hitler? No wonder your ass is out of the band,Your >a idiot I guess you just don't understand an analogy when you see one. In a more simple language; I'm saying: You can't forgive one's evils, just because they create great art. >As for your comments on the band running from you?? They would shove every >can of hair spray that you had up your ass. If you want to dis the Misfits >do it on the Poison bible that you created,not here. For one thing; What I say about THE MISFITS, I don't say behind their backs. Jerry has denied saying every slanderous quote about me that has been printed. He'd rather throw interviewers (who think he's their friend) to the wolves if a lawsuit were to come out of his comments, rather than BEING A MAN and admitting his mistakes. He says UGLY THINGS made up all those things about me being late and drunk, and being a shitty guitar player. He says AL RYAN made up the whole story about me stealing THE UNDEAD name from him. They've had more than one chance to fuck me up if they wanted to. I was alone most of the time at the BOX SET signing. I was alone at the CHILLER THEATER convention. If they want to discuss the money, they've had more than enough opportunity to do so. My mailing list is not another bible. I'm not about to rip off Marks idea. He does a phenomenal job, and I don't know how the fuck he keeps up with it all. Lots of coffee, I suppose. The UNDEAD / TIMES SQUARE mailing list is just that, A mailing list. When there is any news or updates with either of my bands, I'll be able to let anyone who's interested know right away. To call it a "POISON bible" is to infer that I'm trying to damage Jerry's "spotless" reputation. Wrong! I'm just trying to set the record straight. If there's been any 'poisoning' it's been against me. And the proof is in the attitude of your response, because you seem to automatically think that jerry = good; bobby = bad; and that you'd make a comment as extreme as suggesting shoving a can of hairspray up my ass. >From: The Mocellas >Subject: bobby....uhh >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 21:43:08 -0400 >hi guys. >i just had to comment on what BOBBY S. said last issue concerning xxxippy's >post. WHAT THE FUCK? uh....how can you compare stealing money to the MASS >MURDER OF GERMANY'S JEWISH POPULATION? Did Hitler start off murdering people? No. He was a scumbag, but because people thought he was doing good things for Germany, they were willing to look the other way. After all, they weren't Jewish. A thief is a thief. And a thief is a criminal. I'm not saying that what they did to me was anywhere near what Hitler did to the world. Only an idiot could make that assumption. Someone who rips me off has the potential to rip you off too. What're you gonna say, "I wasn't Bobby Steele, so I said nothing. Now they've ripped me off, but there's no one else to turn to"? I've never once said that you shouldn't like the MISFITS, but public opinion goes a long way. Believe it or not; I've met people that have said they will not buy any MISFITS records or go to any shows until I get paid. Do you know what that would do if more people had that kind of character? If it became clear to Jerry that he would have more people going to shows and buying records if he did the right thing - he'd pay me yesterday. >besides, you said that john wayne gacy should not be forgiven for his crimes >because he painted well. no shit. but if you are subjectively analyzing HIS >ART, it does not FUCKING MATTER what he did. Tell that to the parents of all the kids he butchered. > xxxippy enjoys the MUSIC the >'fits made, regardless of their personal actions. you have to seperate an >artist from his art. after all, van gogh was a MAJOR fuck up, but he seems >to be doing alright in the art world. Yeah. He made a lot of money off his paintings, too. HE GOT SCREWED. HE NEVER MURDERED ANYONE. How can you compare a gentle, caring person like Van Gogh to murderers like Hitler and Gacy. He wasn't a fuck up. He suffered from a severe mental imbalance, and spent time in at least one mental institution. One of his paintings was of the view from his room at that institution. His paintings look the way they do because his illness fucked up his vision and that was the way things looked to him. He said he was born twice. As a kid, his parents took him, regularly, to the grave of their first son, Vincent, who died a year before he was born. Think about how that fucked his mind up. >geez. GEEZ >From: Feb31959@aol.com >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:56:50 -0400 >Subject: the "new" misfits > >I saw the "new" misfits last week and I just wanna say how pathetic. . . that >jerry only character has got to go, hes sixty years old for god's sake, and >bobby steal? he looked like some football player. . . I think glen danzig should sue their >asses off for using his songs and calling it the misfits. The worst part was that I went all the way out there, ate some bad - steroid-loaded meat, got bloated . . . and then they didn't pay me for my trouble. On top of that; I got back home late for TIMES SQUARE practice. Where's my lawyer . . . >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:03:24 -0400 (EDT) >From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr >Subject: hitler, bobby, michael, roselands > , anyways at the allentown show the misfits probably didn't jump into >the crowd because they aren't stupid, if they would have done that at >worst they would have gotten there asses kicked by over 30 nazi assholes, >and at best they would have caused a riot resulting a lot more injuries. >they stopped playing which stopped the fight almost immediatly. and no, >the nazi's weren't bigger than the regular kids, most of them were rather >puny little cowards who wouldn't start shit unless they had at least ten >of there friends to back them up. you can bet that if there are less than >10 skins at a show they will be the most well behaved people there, out >of fear of getting a boot to their face. I know nazis. Like you said they're cowards. I don't know how many roadies the MISFITS have with them, but between all of them, and the club security - they could've done something other than give the nazis the power to end an otherwise good show. A few years back, when I was touring solo; I walked into a small club in Muskegon, MI to check out the opening band. of the 100 or so people there, at least half were wearing swastikas. Nazis don't like cripples ( cripples are one of the primary targets of neo-nazis in germany). They consider us to be inferior. I felt uncomfortable as it was, since this was gonna be the first gig of my solo tour. So, I walked up to the biggest one there - and ripped off his swastika from the from of his hat. Then I proceeded to walk around the place, ripping swastikas off of every kid in there. It was a foolhardy move, but the worst thing that happened from it was that a girl wrote to Maximum R & R and said that I knocked her down and acted like a 'rockstar'. So, you see; if a lone, 130lb GIMP can stand up to about 50 nazis in a club . . . They don't have to beat up ANYONE. Period. They will get sued. And if their victims are minors - they'll go to jail - and meet lots of big, horny nazis. Especially for that roadie at the Chicago show. If he really did kick that kid in the face after he was being held - well it's his conscience. I don't even know if this is all true, or if it fits into the "I saw OZZIE bite the head off a bat" category. Sometimes people think they see something, because they want to. ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:59:35, -0500 Subject: Just some shit... >From: Feb31959@aol.com >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:56:50 -0400 >Subject: the "new" misfits >that jerry only character has got to go, hes sixty years old for god's sake, and >bobby steal? he looked like some football player. First of all, maybe you should get your facts straight before you criticize. The guitarist that you referred to as looking like a football player is Doyle, not Bobby Steele. And Jerry is hardly sixty but I'm sure you were just exaggerating, right? Yeah, anyway. Ok just gotta reply to Bobby Steele from issue #190. Where you at the Allentown show? I didn't think so. What is it about you...hold a grudge, jealous, pissed...sounds like you're mad that you weren't included. What's a matter? No one wants to play wif you? Boo Hoo. Anyway I want to finish by shouting out to a few people who seem to make sense and have their heads on straight...Justin, Mark , Xxiippyy, Adrock, Steven Langerholc, The Mocellas, "Jay P.", WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr, MR ERIK M LINDBERG, Hybrid Child...and there are many more. Just didn't want my post to be all negative so I thought I'd end on a positive note. Everyone else just seems to flame the shit out of everyone and then jet. I think we need some more unity. Anyway, talk to you fiends later. -Devil's Rain- ------------------------------ From: Pdbedr@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 22:42:04 -0400 Subject: back again... howdy fiends, Wow I must say how dissappointed I am at all of you in bible 190 I asked for a responce, and I got 1(thnx D-Rod, good to know there is somone who has an original thought in their head)! Wow do you ghouls have nothing to say ? Or do you wait till you find somthing that you can either flame or complain about? I wont restate the question cause it sickens me to have to repeat. You talk about how lame the bible is and then you have nothing to say except respond to some retarded post. And even if this guys torch666 is late, well take it upon yourself to help the guy out. But the majority of you choose to just ridicule theguy! Pretty dumb if you ask me. And for those of you who dont like long posts, screw you. Who says that there must be a limit, I mean somtimes you need to make sur e that you quote the person exactly so that they can not deny their own stupidty. For dorian M. petre: all skinheads suck, nazi or not. They all just a bunch a mindless ass holes who are so lonely they must associate themselves with a group. That is why they are all together cuz they are such a bunch of losers that if one gets in a fight then all get in, and that is for both sharps and nazis. They are all the same to me. I mean why even give your self a name like sharps, why not just be somone who has no hair? The only sharps I recognize is a non-alcoholic brew. later hybrid child ------------------------------ From: MR ERIK M LINDBERG Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 22:48:23, -0500 Subject: Bible 191 Wow, I'm getting like the people who have been here forever. I'm addressing a whole bunch of things at once... -Mark: Good call on the Misfits looking out for the fans. If the Detroit show had been at Harpo's, somebody else would have probably got shot or something. Steve Krass R.I.P. -Feb31959: Bobby STEELE isn't in the band anymore! But Jerry and Doyle WERE football players and they do lift weights. Open mouth, insert foot. This information isn't exactly hard to come by... -138 from way back when: I don't know what show you were at, but when I saw them Michale was fine and had plenty of energy... -The guy who talked about the Phat Show: Is the show all ages? -Chubbs ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 22:49:48 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #191 hello fiends, Old D-rod here for the big game. >From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:39:58 EDT >Subject: Box Set - All Hell Breaks Loose >It only has one version of All Hell Breaks Lose, a live version, which in my >opinion doesn't sound that good. The version on Walk Among Us is good. That is because all hell breaks loose was recorded for WAU, and the WAU takes are on a different lable. So the box set is really the Plan 9& Caroline box set. There are demos out there though. And were not recieved by the band. They are the Fairlawn Demos, they are missing. On these demos there is a version of all hell breaks loose and the keyboard nike which can be found on the page, and a really creepy devils whorehouse. You can find these demos on the Vampira CD boot. If you need a copy of them drop me a line. The reason I know this is cuz Mark told me. >From: MR ERIK M LINDBERG >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:38:31, -0500 >Subject: Previous Bible, Black Flag >Okay, this isn't really that Misfits related, but Robo DID play in >them. I was just wondering if anyone knows if there is anything on >the web like the Misfits Book for Black Flag. Or if anyone has tons >of knowledge on pre-Rollins Black Flag, let me know... >-Chubbs Yes, just go to the discography found at Misfits Central and click on the misfits and then scroll down to related bands, and sure enough you will find a whole listing of Black Flag, with Robo. I always thought to ,myself why did mark put all the stuff for Black flag in there, but now I know. >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:44:28 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Neil E. McAllister" >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #190 >Oh yeah, and for all you fans out there (ha!) -- no way in hell can I >come up with a design for the Bible T-Shirt with a deadline like >"Saturday". Let's be realistic here, I WORK!! Doing a good job takes a >little time at least, that's not even one good weekend. You might as >well have said "8:30pm tonight". the bible T-shirt thing has been going on for months now. It has just come to this, I mean if wait forever there will be no more bible! >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:54:06 -0500 (CDT) >From: Jackal as far as your wolfs blood thing , I think that the lyrics are incorrect also. There is a part that goes ãand I know Im not a man, its wolfblood!ä but then the next he says it ãand I know Im not a man, looks like heritics my name! Wolfs blood!ä listen and you will hear it. later D-rod ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:19:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Jackal Subject: *Attention All Bible Subscribers and Mirc Users* Starting this week on Tuesdays and Thursdays there will be offical Bible meetings on the Mirc. The reason is that I'm sure most of you have noticed that when you go to #misfits half the time nobody is there and the most you ever get is around 5 users. Well after I came up with the idea and passed it on to Mark and he thought it would be good, it was decided to go ahead and set this thing up. Now as for the times. It was decided that most of you don't get on the Mirc till late night, so down below is the times listed for most areas. Midnight in the eastern time zone. 11:00pm in the central time zone. 10:00pm in the mountain time zone. 9:00pm in the Pacific time zone. This will only work with the help from everyone. So please try to show up if not at both times then at least one of them once a week. If any one has any questions feel free to email me. Thank You. Smitty Hines Jackal on the Mirc or Veins if my name is stolen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:46:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Holford Subject: Chris Ternes/ Bullshit in Baltimore First, let me say that anyone who is thinking of dealing with Christopher Ternes(hope the spelling is right) for bootlegs, definetly should. A while back I sent him a few bucks for a few of the Proedge rehearsals and he not only sent me all the Proedge rehearsals, but two live shows! Thankz again Chris! Second, I was looking in the Baltimore City Paper, and noticed an Advertisement for the Misfits playing at Hammerjacks, does anyone know if this is gonna be all ages, I don't think Hammerjacks has ever done an all ages show, but now would be a great time to start. Anyways, on the ad for the Misfits, there was a picture of the band, but it was an OLD picture, featuring Glenn. I doubt that the Misfits had anything to do with the ad but I think it really fucking sucks, it's obvious they are trying to fool people, (they being whoever made the ad) One more thing, I was at Reptilian Record in Fell's Point, and saw a CD by the band Texas is the Reason, anyone ever heard of em? Influenced by bullet or what? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 96 12:24:24 -0700 From: GREIG Subject: subscribe !!!!!!! I WOULD LIKE TO SUBSCRIBE AND SAY THAT I AM STARTING UP A MISFITS PAGE (NOT ONE AS COOL AS THIS :) ) AT htp://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4727 AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEND ME ANYTHING TO PUT ON THIS PAGE SEND IT TO greig@isle.net. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 00:22:18 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: End Hello to all the fiends out in Bibleland- Let's see, i guess i have to tell you we are a little behind schedual on the getting all the designs to the web page for the voting. No big deal, this is how it will go down. On Wednesday June 19th, all designs for the main image of the t-shirt will be on the Misfits web page,(look in the news section and you will see the one marked bible t-shirt). Plus there will be a post in the bible for that day to tell you what to do in order to vote for your fave design. ***NO LAZY ASS GARBAGE THIS TIME, YOU WILL ONLY HAVE A LIMITED # OF DAYS TO VOTE. YOU DON'T GET YOUR VOTE IN, TO BAD SO SAD.*** So in simple terms if you want a Misfits Bible t-shirt with art you like and would be proud to wear, then you get your lazy ass to a computer and vote. Glad this makes sence to you!?! Also, if you are an artist and can whip an image together in two days you have till Tuesday night to get your work to Mark so it can have its place on the web page. And no more extentions, you guys have had a full week or more. Oh and if you think i'm being a bitch and i don't understand what it takes to create art from just a couple words. Well i guess four portfolios, the first volume of a limited edition art book, and a video news reel didn't come like manna from heaven or sitting around living the good life. Just like any of you i have been in school, working full time, and or interning full time to get what i have. So let's get this shirt on its way and done already!?! SEE YOU ON THE 19TH FOR THE VOTE! TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Bjorn Misfits in Jacksonville misfits now vs. then what your denmother did on her summer vacation Re: Misfits Bible, #192 dorks Hitler vs. big bad Joe` stuff Bobby Steele Ohhhh...? IRC. HELP! chicago show Its the big one... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 09:47:35 EDT >From: Feb31959@aol.com >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:56:50 -0400 >Subject: the "new" misfits >...that jerry only character has got to go, hes sixty years old for >god's sake, and bobby steal? he looked like some football player... You have got to be the one of the biggest asshole of the month club!!!! Bobby Steal, jes, you should not even be on the list. DeViLoCkXXX ------------------------------ Date: 17 JUN 96 09:12:41 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: bible 192 Ok, here goes... 1. To David Arthur Aufox - I dont think your "differences of metal and punk" is valid. If you listen to any heavy metal, you would know that all bands do not mute their strings to play their songs. If you listen to Metallica, Slayer, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Kiss, etc etc you will notice that sometimes they do mute, and sometimes they dont, just like a punk band (like my own Black Vomit years ago) can do to get different sounds. Shit, if you listen to the Pistols, they mute their strings on some songs too, and they aint a metal band! I would say the major differences are attitude, appearance, song subject matter, and song structure. Here is my point, people who listen to metal are not idiots by default. I listen to some heavy metal, some i think is crap. I dont catergorize and entire type of music or a fan base as crap or great. I like alot of punk, and have been listening to the misfits for about 13 years, but I also listen to some metal bands (metallica, iron maiden, sabbath), some classic rock (doors, floyd, zepplin), classical music, blues, whatever. I know alot of metalheads who are idiots, I also know alot of punks who are too as well as any other group of people. If you dont like the music, just say so, but dont lump fans of music into catergories just cause its convenient. 2. Ben Todd - Sorry, but I don't know what "down with LA RAZA" means. I am guessing, down with his race? but i am only guessing. I know Glenn is into alot of WWII stuff, and so am I, but I hope he is not a fascist (i never got that impression from his music or interviews). if he is, screw his dumb ass. 3. to Bobby Steele. Ramones a Jewish punk band??? I know Joey is (Jeffery Hyman) , but I dont think Johnny (John Cummings) Dee Dee (Douglas Colvin) are. Tommy (Tommy Erdelyi) is Hungarian, and may or may not be Jewish. In any case, sure they all flirted with swastikas for the shock value, as did alot of the english punk bands, but i think all those groups grew out of that pretty damn quick. 4. Not sure about the Hammerjacks show, I keep seeing conflicting dates for 6/28. some say Roseland - NYC, some say Hammerjacks in Baltimore. I hope to be a both if not at least one of those shows. 5. I think the point made about catholics in # 190 was not that they were alot killed in WWII (count 5 members of my family) but that the Catholics killed more Jews during their "inquisitions", "pogroms" you name it over the past 2,000 years. I dont think they have quite forgiven the Jews yet for killing Jesus, as if it wasnt all predestined (if you believe all that bible stuff, personally, i gave up god for lent years ago and never missed a beat) 6. Anyway, aren't we here to talk about the Misfits? I've seen the new line up twice so far, and I think they are doing a kick ass job. I dont know who owes who money, and to be perfectly honest, it aint my goddamn business. If certain band members want to keep old feuds going, that is there friggin business. I wasnt in the misfits, i dont know what happened between whom and I will never know the "truth" and to be honest, I dont care. I'm here to enjoy their music. If they start doing stuff that I as a fan dont agree with, I'll stop buying their albums and going to their shows, just like I did with the Bad Brains for all their "homophobic" rasta rantings. "Hit Paydirt with K Dirt"!!! AZ ------------------------------ From: "Cheryl M. Walley" Subject: N.O. Show! Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:31:33 -0500 (CDT) First off I have to say this: Mark you are a cool mother fucker. You helped me find out everything I needed to know, and I wouldn't have gone if it weren't for you. I just have to post how great the fucking New Orleans show was on Saturday. It was great. The music was incredibly tight, Michale was great, Jerry was cool as shit, Doyle was a monster, and Chud was a kick-ass drummer with an equally as cool drum kit. I met Jerry before the show and he signed my combat boots and my Fiend Club shirt. Then a gutter punk named Rex came up to Jerry and said,"I'm homeless and I've got $1.03 and I really want to see you guys." Jerry told him he'd put him on the guest list and he did. I saw him in the club later. The club was smaller than they're used to. Jerry said after the show that they couldn't set up the monitors because of the lack of stage space. But anyway, Chud ran out and fived everybody and then they all came out and kicked into Halloween. No horror clips before the show because no monitors. It was at least 150 degrees in there with a 10 person pit at all times. I was basically smashed up front the whole time except for 138 when I got in the pit. Doyle did not stay in his corner at all. He was all over the place. He's fucking huge! Well, anyway, I didn't get a setlist but they played everything but Mommy, Die, She, Cough/Cool, Theme for a Jackal, Halloween 2, Braineaters, and some EAD stuff. They even played American Nightmare! Sounded nothing like the original though. Gotta say, though, that Doyle's style is a lot different. That changes the whole music. It's not the Misfits of old, but in this case different is good. It's not the same Misfits because it's not Glenn, but they are still great. Michale is great, although he seemed a little fucked up after the show. Well after the show we (me, Megan, and Chris) talked to Jerry for a few more minutes. I asked if he was going to get to see his kids on father's day and he said no. He said his daughter was graduating grammar school on the 26th and he'd see that, though. Well, after that we went out to the bus and met Chud (fucking cool) and finally talked to him. We told him that Megan wanted a hug from Jerry before we left, so Chud hugged her and he led us into this house behind the club where Jerry sat drinking milk and talking with a couple other roadies, etc. He asked us if we wanted a soda. He had diet pepsi and he said he wouldn't drink anything that wouldn't make him fat. After that, he gave me and Chris his wristbands. He wished us a safe trip back to Mississippi, and we shook his and Chud's hands again. I ended up with all four of their sigs on my shirt and ticket stub with Jerry's sig on my boot. Jerry told me to post what I saw and I saw a fucking kick-ass show. Great. that's all folks, itchy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:39:45 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: question(s) O.k., the CityPaper in Washington DC, rarely publishes the shows for Hammerjacks in Baltimore. The tour list on the web page used to say the 'Fits were playing there in late June. Now it doesn't say they're playing. In the last Bible someone mentioned that they saw an ad for the show. So, are they playing there or not? If they are, can anone in the DC area give me a ride. Of course gas would be paid for. -Tarry ------------------------------ From: BSteele932@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:23:21 -0400 Subject: boo, who? I'm having a slight problem with JUNO, right now - so if you've sent me email, that's why you haven't heard from me. It should be straightened out soon. If you're going to see TIMES SQUARE this Friday (PYRAMID, 101 AVE 'A', NYC), be sure to come over and say HI. We'll have a 'special guest roadie' for this one. GUESS WHO? >From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO >Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:59:35, -0500 >Subject: Just some shit... > >Ok just gotta reply to Bobby Steele from issue #190. Where you at >the Allentown show? I didn't think so. >What is it about you...hold a grudge, jealous, pissed...sounds like >you're mad that you weren't included. READ again. I said that I'd been READING about these incidents. I can only rely on what is posted here, and I think I made that clear. I hold a grudge against someone who refuses to give me the money that is mine. I hold a grudge against someone who goes in national magazines and LIES about me, and tries to destroy my reputation - so he can look bigger than he is. I don't care that I'm not included in the mew MISFITS. I have my own career. >What's a matter? No one wants to play wif you? Boo Hoo.> TIMES SQUARE, MICHAEL MONROE, nomerous incarnations of THE UNDEAD, SLOPPY SECONDS, and upcoming MIGRAINES record, MR. NICE GUY . . . sorry to burst your bubble, but ALL these people want to play with me. My only problem is finding quality musicians who take it as seriously as me. >From: Pdbedr@aol.com >Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 22:42:04 -0400 >Subject: back again... > >For dorian M. petre: all skinheads suck, nazi or not. They all just a bunch >a mindless ass holes who are so lonely they must associate themselves >with a I know some cool skins. The REAL skins. They're not nazi, they're not Sharp. They won't hesitate to beat the living shit out of nazi's, and they don't have to be in a gang to feel brave. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:42:39 -0400 From: Zodiac Subject: Punk and Violence This reply is directed to Dave Arthur: Dave: I found your post about violence at shows slightly less than infomative. You say that Jerry did nothing to stop the violence. Since when is it the band's job to bounce their own concerts? As for "punk" bands being non-violent, why don't you research a little into the history of such bands as The Clash or Sex Pistols. If you actually saw some of the footage from the late '70's of various British television shows talking about "punk" rock, you would realize that violence has been, and probably always will be, part of punk rock (where exactly do you think the term "punk" came from?). Case in point, let's look at Sid Vicious. Sid could not play the bass, was not used on any existing recording made by the Pistols (sorry, Steve Jones did the bass tracks on Bollocks while Sid was in the hospital with hepititis), and the only reason he replaced Glen Matlock was because of his violent tendencies. In fact, Sid was so atrocious a bass player, that a roadie played bass backstage at live shows, probably 'cos Sid was either too drunk or whacked out on heroin that he would sound even shittier than usual. Malcolm McLaren felt bad publicity was better than good, and got Sid in the band to promote fights and violence in general. Perhaps you should take the time to learn about your music and getting your facts straight before posting to the entire list. To say punk is non-violent is like saying Hitler wasn't responsible for the deaths of 12 million, and Eichmann was just "following orders". Zodiac P.S. Ever heard of Dayglo Abortions? A great Canadian punk band...oh yeah, they muffle the E string in a couple tunes. I guess they are a metal band. Sorry. ============================ "Ye are of your father the Devil,and the lusts of your father ye will do." -St. John 8:44 ============================ E-Mail: abbadon@idirect.com ============================ "Demons to some, angels to others." -Clive Barker "Hellraiser" ============================ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:04:11 -0400 From: Zodiac Subject: Patricia Hey Patricia: I need you e-mail and home addresses. My computer crashed and I lost everything. TTYL. Zodiac ============================ "Ye are of your father the Devil,and the lusts of your father ye will do." -St. John 8:44 ============================ E-Mail: abbadon@idirect.com ============================ "Demons to some, angels to others." -Clive Barker "Hellraiser" ============================ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:32:47 -0400 From: Mark Subject: Re: > Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:47:53 -0500 (CDT) > From: David Arthur Aufox > > mark, it is real interesting how you believe the misfits to be > infallible. nothing is perfect. i refuse to cast anyone on a pedistle. as Don't put words in my mouth. I know those guys and I know why they do some of the things they do. They are not perfect and they know that. They care about their fans, and they care about their music. Until you have actually dealt with them on a personal level, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S IN THEIR HEADS, and you shouldn't pretend to. Whenever I see bullshit information on this mailing list (my mailing list), I do my best to get the 'real' story out, and that's all. > i will look like this one stage. i believe that if jerry wanted to > replace glenn almost exactly he did a good job, but it should be admitted > that was the case. it isn't graves fault on that issue. Who should Jerry admit this to? He never made a contract anywhere that stated he would find someone different from Glenn. Who cares? What he told me, and what he told many people, was that they wanted someone who could do the songs the way Glenn did them, OR they wanted someone with a totally different style that could still do the songs well. Whether or not they got either of those is up to personal interpretation, but the point is that Jerry and the guys are very happy with the way Michale fits into the band. > my definition of metal is obviously different from yours. guitar solos do > not make a difference on what is metal or what is not metal or what is or > is not punk. shit the decendents have guitar solos, so mark, they must be > a metal band huh? Perhaps not by your definition, but if I were to go only with what you write below, I might end up thinking a Julio Iglesias song was metal. I used a generalization and you did too. It doesn't matter. If you don't like Earth AD, don't listen to it. If you don't like the new Misfits, don't go see them. If you want to complain, go somewhere else. This mailing list was set up for fans. If you had some personal issue to bring up with Jerry, you could have talked to him at the show. > nope. metal is in the style of guitar playing usually > lost of muting, it is also in the style of teh attack. the difference > between punk and metal is the use of muting (mostly the e string) and > getting that chunck a chuckna sound, verse chord progressions in > poppier punk and discordance and dissonce in emo orineted punk. Yeah sure... > i like the misfits alot. they used to be my favorite band > at one time. and seeing people destroy something that was once good is > agrevating. that is what is happening here. metal simply is terrible > music, but what makes it worse is the mindset of the people who listen to it. Jerry and Doyle are the same people they were when they were in the band years ago. Your interpretation of their music as metal does not affect WHO they are, but (according to you) who the fans are. If you don't like other Misfits fans, don't go to the shows - then you won't have to see them. > as far as voilence at shows.... yes, glenn did get into fights at > shows... does that make it right? no, it would be pointless me me to > criticise the band for doing shit like that back then concidering that i > was around 6 at the time. but i can and will critize any band that does > that now. Right. My point was that you should have been prepared for this kind of behavior at one of their shows, assuming you had some knowledge of what they were like in the past. It appears that we agree otherwise. > doyle almost refuses to interact with the fans from what i have heard. as > far as chud goes....yes, he is different from other drummers they have > had. he sucks, he isn't that good at what he does, and he is doing thw > wrong thing to begin with. with a different drummer and stopped truning > the songs into metal musicly things would be better. All I can say is - don't go to the new shows. Doyle doesn't refuse to interact with the fans - he's just not outgoing the way Jerry is. That's nothing new. He's always been that way. I suppose you (as an expert drummer, no doubt) can say that Chud sucks, but that's your opinion. The guys picked him because they thought he was the best. > as for the security thing bullshit mark. it isn't too hard to find out > anything about what a city's clubs are like in that respect, also they It's not bullshit. Hello everybody, let's listen up. These guys have not toured in 13 years, and they had NEVER before toured on such a large scale. Most of the clubs they played at back in the 70's and 80's didn't have much security, if any. There were occasional fights, riots, and other problems. Things are somewhat different now and they're learning as they go along. > i'm glad they read this mark. maybe they will actually learn something. > but i want to hear from them a responce to this. b/c their behavior is > unaccptible. I doubt you'll get a reponce, but you might get a reponse. Perhaps one day when they're not actually touring, recording, or doing promotional appearances, they'll be able to post (as Michale has done in the past) or get on the IRC channel. You know the PO Box address - if you have something to say, write them a letter. > if they are going to play metal that is fine they should > just admit it. but there is no excuse for allowing that behavoir to occur > in security asnd within the bands and it tour staff. Perhaps you missed my post less than 2 months ago when I quoted them exactly as saying, "The Misfits are not punk. The Misfits are not metal. The Misfits are not hardcore." Do you remember that? I think they've admitted all they "should just admit" to anyone. Like I said a few issues ago, they're not trying to be anything, nor are they attempting to be part of some exclusive group. They're just out to play music. You're the one with the expectations that they didn't live up to. Don't blame it on them. > i refuse to kiss thier ass unlike some. Cool! You really are a true punk! > From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.com > Subject: Danzig III > OK...My copy of Danzig III has the number 26914-2, in 3 places, > the CD, thees, the CD, the book and the side of the paper inlay. The > disc has the art from the cover on it. And by the way the cover to this > is the normal one, not the different one from the box. The # on the box > that I read on the page, is no where on this, yet the art on this disc > is the same as the box version of it. The version you have (26914-2) is the regular version. There were two pressings of this version - one on Def American in 1992 and one on American Recordings in 1994. Both have the H.R. Geiger artwork on the cover, and at least the 1992 pressing has a picture CD of the same art. The Special Box Set edition had the H.R. Geiger art on the box itself, as a raised 3D surface, BUT the cover art on the CD booklet had a color photo of the band and the CD itself was a picture CD with the dagger art (I think). > From: "Roger Holmes" > There is a comic out (well its acually a mag type thing in comic > format) with a 6 page article on the fits with new pics and > everything. I have it on hold for me at my local comic store and Ill > pick it up next week and transcribe it if someone hasnt already. This is Lucanae #7 - it's currently being sold at the merchandise table on the tour. mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil E. McAllister" Subject: Random comments on Misfits & the state of punk rock Okay, first off: Torch666, Feb31959... are we seeing a pattern here? Second, to whomever was saying not to confuse skinheads with SHARPs because SHARPs were "the good guys", don't buy it. It sounds good in principle, like the good skinheads battling the evil skinheads over the fate of the world or something... but in my experience SHARPs are just as much assholes as Nazi skins. They're still just a bunch of drunken boneheads who go to shows to beat on people, only they're too chickenshit to be racist. They figure Nazis are a target that nobody will mind them beating on, so they beat on them. YES, there are skinheads who are just regular ol' guys who shave their heads and listen to ska music and so forth, but generally they are unaffiliated with any kind of skinhead organization. Personally, I don't care if your little social club thinks it's singlehandedly making the world safe from Nazism or not, if you go out nights looking to pick fights and start shit and generally make everybody's life miserable, then you're an asshole. Third, I don't see what "Punk Rock" Dave is going on about. Maybe his abusive father was a metalhead or something, I dunno. What is the point of berating the so-called "metalhead" constantly? I have met an equal number of dumbshit punk rockers. In my experience, the fatal flaw of punk rockers is their naivete'. Usually the excuse I hear for not liking metal is because it's just all about satan and cock-rock, while punk rock is so politically conscious and throught-provoking. Unfortunately, much of that attitude stems from the belief thatt a lot of young people have, that everybody must agree with them or else that person's an idiot. Myself, I just don't agree with the political stance of a lot of punk rock bands. I don't want to hear them yell and scream when they're just plain misguided or misinformed. What's the point? I really doubt a punk rock band ever did anything constructive to change society, for the most part they connect with a punk rock audience, i.e. preaching to the converted. The rest of the time they do their little good deeds and sing their little songs and then hold their holier-than-thou attitudes above the rest of the world. And as for music? Well, I hardly see the justification there.. The original "joke" of punk rock was a thumb at the nose at the music industry, taking bands composed of people who couldn't play their instruments and throwing them out for the horror of the masses. Well, that joke has gotten old now. The relatively few punk rock bands that do actually do anything musically inevitably get called "sell-outs", so that the next wave of no-talents can climb up that holier-than-thou ladder. And I don't see what any of this has to do with the Misfits, because their sound, and their songs have not significantly changed! They themselves have never called themselves a punk rock band, so if it's a punk rock band you were looking for the mistake is your own. If you like the music, then perhaps you'd better broaden your thinking. For myself, I enjoy the sound, but I can't tell anybody that the Misfits were ever brilliant musicians, that's not even the point. Why argue about whether they're better or worse now, or whether they're just "metal" now, or whatever... cuz like it or not, one way or the other, they're no fucking musical geniuses and nobody who was ever in the band ever was! It's a good sound, it's good songs, and you should take it at surface value. If you like it, you like it! If you feel guilty and ashamed because you're starting to think it sounds like metal, you're a fucking moron. We're not talking symphony orchestra here, we're talking about loud rockin' music that's travelled from the late 70's until now. For myself, I listen to metal, and precious little punk rock these days. I listen to metal with tongue firmly planted in cheek, because I have a sense of humor. I like big heavy minor chords and cookie monster vocals. I love the idea of longhaired weirdos off in Norway stabbing each other with knives and worshipping Satan and burning down churches and so forth. So sue me. I'm not here to justify it to anybody, to my mind anyone who feels like they have to justify their position AT ALL -- and especially by tearing down someone else -- is again, a moron. Grow up a little, have some pride in yourself for chrissakes. I got plenty of friends who listen to punk rock, and it's just not to my tastes most of the time, so what. I've told you why and that's the last you're gonna hear about it. I wish we could say the same of Punk Rock Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:36:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Xxiippyy Subject: Bye bye Bobby. . . Bobby!!! I just wanted to to say, "You win!" There you go! I said it! Having done so let me add. . I am such a total fool to have ever attempted to match wits with you. How dare I, mere mortal, even think of showing you a different view point. After all, you are a god, you know all the view points. Don't you? I apologize, I am a loser. Bad Xxiippyy, bad Xxiippyy. Why didn't I see the Hitler/Misfits/Danzig connection? What is wrong with me? I am an idiot! Let me just sort of back out of the comments I made and do what I said I would not do; apologize. I am sorry. Why am I sorry?? I am sorry you are blind and cannot see. I am sorry you try to help but cannot be helped. I am sorry you speak, but can not listen. I will no longer contribute to this "Let's use the Bible to make Bobby some money forum" any longer. So there you go Mr. Steele. You win. You will no longer have to push your intelligence to overload any longer. (wipe your brow at this moment and exhale) You are not worth my time. For the true fiends out there, I am sorry you have to put up with the type of over-dramatic bullshit he pukes on his keyboard. Maybe I will catch you on IRC sometime and we can talk behind Bobby's back like Glenn does. Yeah that is it we can talk about him and say nasty things and go on Rikki Lake and talk talk talk about Hitler and money and Glenn being a scumbag! Yeah, that's the ticket!!!!! I will finish by saying Bye Bye Bobby. I will do for you what it seems others should have done a long time ago. LEAVE YOU THE FUCK ALONE. YOU PROUD MAN YOU! *STANDING* IN ALL YOUR GLORY. *RUNNING* FULL STEAM WITH YOUR MIND FILLED WITH SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS. PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY. TEFLON MAN; NOTHING STICKS TO YOU, LET IT STAIN THE REPUTATION OF GLENN, YOU ARE THE INNOCENT. YOU ARE A GOD! YOU ARE A GOD! YOU ARE A GOD! YOU ARE A GOD! YOU ARE A GOD! YOU ARE A GOD! YOU ARE A GOD! I BOW IN YOUR PRESENCE.......and am humbled. . . . and ashamed. ------------------------------ Date: 17 JUN 96 16:48:12 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Bobby Steele/Peter Steele (the following is a joke brought to you by the people, with NO TASTE) Are Bobby Steele from the Misfits/Undead/Times Square and Peter Steele from Type O Negative brothers?? AZ ------------------------------ From: gkichline@silo.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:34:49 -0400 Subject: Bobby Steel, the TUFF GUY!!!! What is this shit all about??? A few years back, when I was touring solo; I walked into a small club in Muskegon, MI to check out the opening band. of the 100 or so people there, at least half were wearing swastikas. Nazis don't like cripples ( cripples are one of the primary targets of neo-nazis in germany). They consider us to be inferior. I felt uncomfortable as it was, since this was gonna be the first gig of my solo tour. So, I walked up to the biggest one there - and ripped off his swastika from the from of his hat. Then I proceeded to walk around the place, ripping swastikas off of every kid in there. It was a foolhardy move, but the worst thing that happened from it was that a girl wrote to Maximum R & R and said that I knocked her down and acted like a 'rockstar'. So, you see; if a lone, 130lb GIMP can stand up to about 50 nazis in a club . . . Bobby!!, this is the biggest FUCKIN BULLSHIT THAT I HAVE EVER READ!!!! You should have showed up at the Misfits in Allentown and tried that, you would have had 30 steeltips up your ass!!! Dont fuckin lie Bobby, you dont look that tuff to be doing things like this!!!!! Im not a skinhead and dont belive in what they are doing, but when you a little 100lbs man, tries to rip a patch off of a 300 lbs MONSTER, I dont think you are going to last that long???? Come on Bobby dont lie!!! Your just pisse d cause you aint with the MISFITS and dont lie to people that your album Live Slayer sold 50,000 copies, who bought them You????? "SOMETHING ELSE" the new single by Sid Vicious!!! Bought to you by the people with NO TASTE!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:00 CDT From: Mark Lerret Subject: Metalfest I just saw an ad for the Milwaukee Metalfest. It will be a 2 day show, July 26th and 27th, at the Rave. "Anthrax, The Misfits, GWAR, Clutch, Cannibal Corpse, Carnivore, plus 50 other bands" is what the ad said. They are selling 1 and 2 day passes. The Misfits and GWAR at the same show ?? I must be in heaven... I'll post more details as I get them. Mark Lerret lerret@vaxl1.danavictor.com "Our days pass by, and are scored against us." Marcus Valerius Martialis (40 - 104 A.D.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:12:40 -0400 From: Dick Tate Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #192 > >From: "Roger Holmes" >Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:41:27 GMT-4 >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #191 > >Feb, > You are a cocksucker. If you are going to grease the band at least >know what the hell you are talking about. Bobby Steal on guitar? Duh. >You fuckin moron. Not only did you spell his name wrong but you're >off by about 16 years dipshit. The reason people like you are and >dave the know it all are still alive is because it's against the law >to kill you. >Just my opinion though. >roger > Roger, Not to be offensive or anything. But the correct spelling is BOBBY STEELE, perhaps you just quoted the spelling of the person you were flaming but at least put the correct spelling in your messages. Then we'll all know whats going on. Just checkin an thanx Dick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:50:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Fama Subject: more Nazi stuff > From: ChristoTer@aol.com > Yeah, that doctor--Heidegger, I think--was a strange fellow (personally, > if you want to point the blame...look at Goebbles just as much as Hitler). > He actually did a number of experiments with cloning, both in Germany and in > Argentina after he split with his Nazi buddies and with the help of the US > government......None of this belongs in the Bible though, I just think it's > fascinating... it's Goebbels. and no, Martin Heidegger was a German philosopher. You're probably thinking of Joseph Mengela, who performed experiments on camp- prisoners. (As did many other SS-doctors, though he's the most notorious; he's also the subject of the song "Angel of Death" for those Slayer fans out there). And as for Goebbels: obviously he was an evil man, but NO ONE had ANY role to even approach Hitler's in the Third Reich. Nor did Goebbels escape to Argentina; (that was Adolf Eichmann). Goebbels and his wife killed their children before themselves committing suicide in Germany (I believe in Nurnberg, though perhaps Berlin...or perhaps somewhere else...but as you said, this is not really the forum...) > From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) > Glenn's Italian! Back in 77 - 80, the nazi thing was considered cool - > for shock effect. It was started by the RAMONES - a Jewish band from Queens. he's also part German, and Scotch...but anyway, we all know that Germany did NOT use that flag (black, red, yellow) during Hitler's reign, right? It has NOTHING to do with Nazism. -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 05:55:42 -0500 From: relady@intellex.com (Linda S Atteberry) Subject: WHO NEEDS THERAPY WHEN YOU HAVE THE MISFITS? well hello fiends out there in cyber-land! first; i'd like to say that without mark, i dont think that alot of this info involving the misfits would have been spread so quickly. he is doing a great job and we should all thank him for his efforts. second; misfits show-june 10th-tulsa, oklahoma-cains ballroom: well what the hell can i say? i stayed up all night before the show, showed up at the club around 8-9 am, and they were asleep, oh well....then later about noon i walk up hearing the most astounding noise my ears have ever experianced.the misfits sound check....i started getting goosebumps all over and decided right at that point "today is a day that ill tell my grandchildren about!"...so i waited around for a bit and good ole jerry only stepped out and went inside the bus...a few seconds later, chud stepped out and i introduced myself, QUOTE:" hello, my name is michael seagraves, pleasure to meet you." he said "hey nice to meet you too!" and we hit it off from there. chud was even so nice to help this crippled lady that was on the street, dragging a wagon full of cans behind her, take her shit a 1/4 mile up the road! shit how many musicians have the balls and/or posterity to do something so wonderful? not many. anthrax? ha! they after that jerry stepped out and signed all my records, box set's, and assorted misfits remnants. we took a few pictures, jerry sporting his "before" look...it was great, then for like 4 hours me and chud chatted off and on, he spent the whole time outside, talking to ppl, chatting, you know...anyways, before the show i decided to take my little brother(age 13) to his first concert...he seemed to like the misfits quite a bit before (i could never find cd 2 of the box set) and he jumped for joy when he heard the news....chud treated my brother like he was the famous important rock star...and my bro ate it up. loved every minute.....(my brother has alot of problems will depression and self destruction) and at this point, i'd hadnt seen him this happy in YEARS. the crowds started showing up about 5:00, and we made sure to be first in line. we finnaly made it in, and at that point i saw michale hangin out chattin, so i went up and told him hello. then we watched the local band from here (pit bulls on crack) i thought they sucked but chud enjoyed them. then anthrax...well we will skip anthrax....at this time in the evening i had lost my little bro....we were so fucking worried we were not gonna be able to make it up front....but we searched and searched and searched anyways......couldnt find him....so we said oh well and come to find out, he was front and center squashed be all the people! haha 1st show and he already knows whats up.......they were fabulous......the stage and equiptment was absolutelly wonderful.....they looked how i had always pictured them.....graves was in my opinion, better than you know who.my little bro gat a drumstick handed to him, they played his fave song first(halloween), he even was right next to some gut that graves kicked for grabbing his balls! haha i bet that guy regrets what he did....they ended the show with i believe mommy, and i have to tell you, heaven has to be SHIT compared to this show.we were pushed outside by the security and waited for a bit to see the band. jerry emerged first and came right up to me and said "hey mike, what didya think?" "dumb question jerry", i replied. he signed all the shit....chud came out he signed everthing took pics the whole hoo rah...even michale signed a million things and loved it. doyle had not yet showed up. jerry said he was in the shower so we waited for a bit longer, he finnaly came out, signed everbody's stuff, and didnt really say much. after the crowds dispursed, we chatted with em, and my brother asked jerry "you guys make all your instruments?" jerry said "yep, come on in and play em!" haha fred (the brother ) shitted right there. he was so happy.he went inside, got to carry jerry's original bass out, and even went into this bus with him for like 20 minutes! he scored some bass strings, and finnaly came out. my whole point of this LONG story is: they helped my brother through tough times, he isn't the same as before! who needs therapy when youve got the misfits? we owe our deepest gratutudes to the misfits, and we will never forget you. you will be alive in our hearts forever............... _CoFFiN_ (aka CrEEpShOw) on irc p.s. wanna see pics of this show? go to: http://www.intellex.com/~relady/misfits.html and also ive been experementing with #misfits on effnet, tonight i had between 20-30 people in the channel...i have a bot there (M|sf|tBot) and im tellin ya....go for a bit....ops for every fiend. everyone is graciosly welcome. MARK- SORRY ITS SO LONG! I'LL KKEP IT SHORTER NEXT TIME! ------------------------------ From: JHH5109@ACS.TAMU.EDU Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:10:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: RE: Misfits Bible, #192 I've never written to the Misfites Bible before, but now there seems to be a reason to. Why doesn't everyone just shut the hell up?! If you don't kile the new Misfits, then don't listen. Most of you losers wouldn't understand anyways. I've seen and heard the Misfits before. They are a great studio band, but due to equipment and violence limitations, the bands shows were less than clean. Sure, the band can perform live now...I guess that means that they can't be punk anymore. In addition, I see a lot of people bitching about the venues and related crap. The Misfits, due to idolization from other bands, could easily been on some Lollapaloser tour, or have played much, much bigger venues. Besides, I've paid more for a 7" than I did for my ticket. How about all of you? There also seems to be a lot of complaint about Chud and Graves. Again, shut the fuck up....could you do better? I laughed my ass off when I saw the drums. It seemed like a joke. In reality, Chud's drum style is not all that different than it could be. At least he's an accomplished player, not some drunk moron. Unfortunately, Graves is in a no win situation. He would take shit for being different, or if he sounds like Danzig. Of course, it's almost to be expected that he should sound like the old singer since they play so little now material. And the last fragmented rant deals with this whole metalhead/punk thing. Contrary to Dave's statement, metal and punk are amorphus beasts. There are bands that are labeled punk but sound metal, and vice versa. I mean, Earth Crisis is hardcore punk, but their material is extremely metal oriented. Besides, hardcore punk obviously has influence from heavy metal bands. How many hardcore bands play with the same rythm as Motorhead? Earth A.D. may have some metal influences, but it is still a punk album. Label the new band whatever you want, but I think that The Misfits will be progressive enough to still write music that is interesting and aggressive. Does it really matter what some record industry tyrant, or some listless Beavis and Butthead fan calls it? I sure don't care. I mean, what if that Bush band was called punk? Does that make me wnat to go out and jump in the pit wearing my Oxblood Docs? Fuck no! In conclusion, the music is important, not the label, if you don't like it, leave, and Lastly, leave the Misfits to the real fans. Flounder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:53:42 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: more crap about nazi's well technically nazism is misfits related... where eagles dare, violent world, hatebreeders, glenn's fascination with nazism etc... anyways... when i said 20 million victims of the holocaust i meant all those intered inconcentration camps and non-jews... and the thing about catholics... i didn't mean that many died... i mean that the catholics have killed way over that many people... of course you don't have the luxury of blaming any one single papist, but their bodycount makes the nazi's seem almost insignifigent in comparison. they even beat out stalin. bobby: actually hitler didn't start out as a scumbag he started out as a wwI warhero and a very _bad_ artist... the holocaust would have never happened if hitler had any artistic talent, his art was lifeless and mechanical. all he really wanted was to be an artist, well ok that and invade poland... :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:08:33 -0400 Subject: Danzig Tour, Action Park It was posted a few Bible's ago that Danzig was going on tour later this month. But I'm not sure if that information is correct. Around July 4th is the San Diego Comic Con and Verotik is a confirmed guest publisher. I don't see why Danzig would go out on tour and leave his company to be represented by others below him at the biggest comic book convention in America, if not possibly the world. Also, I checked out a few places and they had no word of a Danzig tour. And with the tour supposedly set to start in less than two weeks, that's not a good sign. So I'm not sure if the people who gave the people the info that was posted are right on this one. Maybe he's just doing one or two club shows but I have no way of knowing this. Also, I called Action Park (a big water park in Vernon, NJ which is right in Jerry and Doyle's backyard, for those of you not in the NY-NJ-PA tri-state area who don't know what it is) and they didn't know anything about the Misfits being there in late August. Perhaps the deal is still in the works but I don't know. I'll call up in July and check it out again. Onto smaller items, I bought a copy of "Famous Monsters of Filmland" and in the classified ads. section they list the various fan clubs under a section entitled "Fiend Clubs". I'm not a long time reader of "Famous Monsters ..." so I have no idea if the Misftis usage of the name came before the mag's or vice-versa. I don't know. Also, a monster movie memorabilia company has taken the design of the "Fiend Club" logo (monster face within a circle with the name written within it) for their company. Anyway, I just thought I'd let all of you know ... - BILE666. P.S. -- PLEASE, if you want to get involved with the Bible t-shirt, VOTE. I don't want to see issues after the vote filled with the complaints and gripes of those who DIDN'T vote. And again, PLEASE, if your choice loses out, don't bitch and complain ad nauseum. It was a vote, fair and square. Don't be a sore loser. If you don't like the design that was voted in, DON"T BUY THE SHIRT ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:16:53 -0400 (EDT) From: John Greenwell Subject: jacksonville show Once again the Misfits Rocked, i wo'nt make a long post because it was similar to all the others...great met all the band got a picture, box-set, and poster of Vampiria signed, we offered them lodging for the night but jerry's brother kenny said they had to stay at a truck stop, damn. oh well john g. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:13:09 -0700 From: adam23 Subject: Saved by the Bell To any misfits fan: About two years ago i was forced into watching a shitty episode of some teeny-bop pissfest show called "Saved by the Bell." Anyway, some tall bitch on the show, actually the one that starred in Showgirls, was getting hopped up on qualudes all the time, so the other faggot characters paid her a visit to confront her "problem." On the wall of her bedroom was a poster for none other than "EVILIVE." I don't know if this has already been noted, but hey, what the fuck. Take care, fiends... ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:56:44, -0500 Subject: Think before you speak... >if all they do is sign things and talk >with people that doesn't equal out aloowing people to be hurt at a show. >doyle almost refuses to interact with the fans from what i have heard. 1. Doyle took time to sign what I gave and talk to me and a friend. Very cool guy. 2. As far as your other unfounded accusations, read the posts on the Allentown show. PERIOD. -Devil's Rain- ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:03:34 -0400 Subject: Bjorn Bjorn----my e-mail to you keeps on bouncing! I have your tape done, but I've lost your address. Please e-mail me back your address! Sorry for the delay! ------------------------------ From: Cecil Pollard Date: Tue, 18 Jun 96 18:03:59 -700 Subject: Misfits in Jacksonville Just wanted to write and let you know a litle about the Misfits show here in Jacksonville, FL last night. First off, it was billed that Anthrax was going to head- line, but the Misfits did, and I thought that was pretty great. Also, because the Misfits came on last, I was forced to sit through a great set by Anthrax. I have listened to them somewhat, but have never been a "fan". I did think they put on a good performance. Now, on to the point. The Misfits opened with Halloween. The rest of the show was a blur. I was sicker than a dog. I was prescribed some pretty heavy drugs to kill this cold/pneumonia, and told to go straight to bed. Obviously, the Doc didn't know that the Misfits were in town. So I propped up against the bar and watched the show. I thought Michale did a real good job, and the crowd seemed to think so too. Jerry was great! He seemed to be having a blast. He was stage diving and slapping hands all night. Doyle looked appropriately frightening and I enjoyed that. They played all of their greats including, but not limited to, Childen in Heat, Mommy, Horror Hotel, Hatebreeder, Astro Zombies, We are 138, 20 eyes, All Hell Breaks Loose, Come Back, Die Die My Darling, Horror Business, Last Caress (which the bald guy from Anthrax joined in on, Scott? i think his name is). Anyways, it was a great night. I think that the crowd was somewhat tired because of Cannibal Corpse and Anthrax, but there was still alot of excitement around. I did get the feeling that the Misfits wanted the crowd to be a little more "into it". The bottom line is even with Danzig out of the picture the Misfits are STILL the best damn band around and I can't wait to see them live again. Of course, I can't wait for this ringing in my ears to stop either. Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:17:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "William P. Musso" Subject: misfits now vs. then I saw the misfits recently in Toronto and in Rochester and I thought they were awesome! I've been into the punk scene since the time before the band split up and I don't know how anyone that has seen the band recently can say that the band has "gone metal." I have a couple of shows on video from the Robo era and I don't think they sound much if any different than they did back then. The way they sounded in Toronto and Rochester was actually BETTER sounding to me than anything on Evillive. I don't think seeing the misfits now is significantly different than seeing them back in 1982. As for Michale, I think he fits in with the misfits perfectly. If he happens to look and sing the way Glenn did way back when, that's fine with me because that is the misfits' style and that is what I came to see. I do not consider him to be "like an Elvis impersonator." Michale is MICHALE and he is a hell of a misfits singer --nuff said! He is certainly better than Glenn would be now as their vocalist. That strutting egomaniac and his boring commercial metal crap is what would REALLY have made the band a bad parody of their former selves! If you think they are metal now, just imagine what they would be like if Danzig had rejoined the band. They'd might as well call the next misfits album DANZIG 6!!!! As far as Chud goes, I am no expert on or connoisseur of drumming styles, but the drums sounded just fine to me. I did not think they sounded metal. I didn't notice any drum solos or metallica choppiness. I spoke to both Jerry and Chud at the House of Guitars before the show and they were really friendly and cool! Jerry is just like fiends have been describing him. He enjoys talking to people and he is a great guy. I must have talked with them for about 20 minutes. I mentioned that the song I thought they performed best live in Toronto was Hatebreeders and found out that it was also Chud's favorite. As people who have read my comments before know, I do not like metal, sell-out, or major label crap. I hope it does not happen, but if the misfits sign to a major or become the next MTV sensation I will simply stop supporting them, and I won't buy their music any more. For the time being, the Misfits are back with a vengeance and I, for one, am loving it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----Psycho Billy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was tossed If not for the courage of the fearless crew, the minnow would be lost ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:38:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: what your denmother did on her summer vacation Well, fiendtroop #138, I have returned from the frozen north and i am here to report what REALLY happened since you have heard the incredibly biased reports from first Bobby..or is it Booby?..Steele and then my confederate CG.. First major notable occurance would be actually meeting live in person his Fiendness Mark Kennedy. I was delighted to see he looked as big a geek as me. Well, I guess he is my spiritual child after all, and was born the same year I graduated from Hi-Skool, you guys... pretty great. Kennedy is the reason, y'all. Anyway, we beat it from Charlottesville to the land of EVB, where we met up with the man of Steele, and my son --who now goes by the nick Gigantor--was thrilled by Bobby's frightwig hairdo and rockstar apparel. Well, Gigantor is 7 yrs old, and very impressed by all this, but not nearly as impressed as he is with EVB's toy collection. Lots of fun to witness. I think this summit was nothing short of historic. Bobby and I chatted away like 14 yrs had never passed and we watched a video of some loserfest at Studio Zero in we figured maybe March of 79.. judging by the length and style of Howie Pyro's hair, and the fact that Jerry Only was still chronically uncool at the time (wore loafers with white sox and a pullover knit shirt). Glenn was filmed attempting to master a guitar to "Peppermint Twist", while Howie spazzed and howled atonally to the obviously unskilled and intoxicated band. Bobby and I were able to identify every member of the "band" except the drummer, and all the songs, amazingly. To me, this video personified all that blew dead bear about the whole "punk rock" scene at the time. Everyone was so busy trying to appear cool that the music just meant NOTHING. on a more positive note, I really liked sitting around bullshitting with an old friend and new ones. Hope to do more of it in the near future. This weekend the new Misfits are playing here in Borelando. I am anxious also to meet up with Jerry for the first time in 14 yrs. as for the previously reported event of last week, where the world famed tag team of me and CG took the Bobster to dinner and walked around the village--which is repulsively clean nowadays compared with the old-- I had a good time. Bobby is good goddam company. I also managed to locate a copy of my favorite comics' coffee table book, "Reid Fleming --Worlds Toughest Milkman" at St Marks Comix. Reid is surely the MAN. 79 cents or I piss on your flowers! now that is a THREAT! onto other things.....well, as for my irrationally punk behaviour as reported by CG, you can all kiss my ass. Anybody locks me out of anything, is gonna HATE it. I might be a middle aged lady with a kid and normal appearance, but you cant judge a punk by its haircut. OR in my case, lack of tattoos and leather. I am still much punker and much cooler than any of you stupid keeds with goatees and muscles or whatever you do with yourselves these days. Since i am in such a irascible mood (look it up, okay?) onto the rest of you... J. Jorden: Children in Heat about the Chicago 7? HELP ME DEAN! try reading Nelson Algrens "A walk on the Wild Side". The female protag is named Chicago Kitty, and by the end of the book, EVERYONE is pissing blood. Dave A: please get spell check or learn to read. I am almost sick from reading your posts. To Benito: you the man! FTW. to TES777, and John Greenwell--heres to us Floridough Fiends! The Bible Calendar proceeds apace, but I have recieved few offers of art or photos...whassup??? Anyone wants to mail anything short of a letterbomb, please send all submissions--i cant promise to return anything, BTW--to... Denmother Patricia Ragan Hoehner 1681 Boyer St. Longwood, FL 32750 happy happy happy, all the time! shock treatment I'm doin ' fine! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:18:42 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #192 hello fiends, Just thought I would start with a little story about Earth AD. Well I remmember the 1st time I saw it at a local used record store and it was right at the beggining of my discovery of the Misfits. Well They had the Earth AD gold CD and WAU CD. I didnt know what to get. I already Had WAU on tape and loved that so I wanted to get that, but I decided to get EAD cuz I hadnt heard it. Well at first I didnt really think it was that good it had all the satan and devil refferences that I didnt really care for (I was new and it was just overwelming). But after a few plays I loved oit, I can say thank God I bought the EAD gold CD for $5, not not the big $$$ some people want for it! I think it really is the one album of the fits that have not ever tired of playing. WAU is my favorite but EAD has that bone on bone thing going on. Thank god I got that cuz it was the last time I ever saw it on cd until the box set. >Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:46:27 -0400 (EDT) >From: Jon Holford >Subject: Chris Ternes/ Bullshit in Baltimore >Second, I was looking in the Baltimore City Paper, and noticed an >Advertisement for the Misfits playing at Hammerjacks, does anyone know if >this is gonna be all ages, I don't think Hammerjacks has ever done an all >ages show, but now would be a great time to start. Anyways, on the ad for >the Misfits, there was a picture of the band, but it was an OLD picture, >featuring Glenn. I doubt that the Misfits had anything to do with the ad >but I think it really fucking sucks, it's obvious they are trying to fool >people, (they being whoever made the ad) Jon I am from northern VA, and I called hammerjacks about that show. It is happening, on 6/27 but here is the thing it is an ANTHRAX show. That means the fits will be opening and the doors open at 8pm, and the show stars at 9pm. I will be there so drop me a line if any one will be there also. later, D-Rod ------------------------------ From: Feb31959@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:25:19 -0400 Subject: dorks you guys are all a bunch of fuckin pussies and I will gladly kick all of your collective asses any day. I got myself one of those form-fitted steel fists like danzig has and I'd love to use it on all you dorks. I don't care how you spell his name, bobby steale is still a dork, he couldn't play for shit back in 77 when the misfits officially died with the rest of punk rock, and he can't play now that those dorks have made their pitiful attempt to get back together. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:33:05 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Hitler vs. big bad Joe` I was trying to remember what I wanted to post about but couldn't. I called up the Denmother for a little inspiration and of course she reminded me what the to write about. You see we always have the same ideas at the same time, so we figured we'd just do this one together.......First me: Number one, it was 6 million people *not* 8 or 600 or whatever. As Marge Schott would say: "Hitler wasn't that bad...he just took things too faaahhrrr" Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was terrible 6 million people lost their lives because a madman didn't like their religion, or maybe because he was unsure of his own heritage. The mass genocide of the Jews in WWII was terrible, but it was like plenty of other events, I want to say overrated but I know 100 sensitive Yarmulke wearing fiends would be on me like flys on shit. Look at the attention AIDS/HIV gets right now, hmmm last time I checked Heart Disease & Cancer were *much* bigger killers, but hey they are pushed to the back burner because some minority group is getting killed by AIDS. I think it's about damn time the Jews stop whining about the Holocaust and get on with their lives, it happened nothing can change it. Besides, we (meaning the world), let the Jews take over another country. What other country, you might ask? Hmmmm ask a Palestinian where they settled. Well this is besides the point, what I wanted to discuss was the fact that there was another murderous head of state who made Hitler look like a choirboy. Who could be worse than Hitler? Why Joseph Stalin of course! Stalin's infamous purges made Auschwitz look like a backyard barbecue. Stalin killed over 40 million people during his reign. I just never understood how Hitler got the attention that he did. Stalin was obviously the more Punk of the two.... Thinking about Stalin just gives me the vision of Hitler naked (like Harvey Keitel in Bad Lieut.) emitting this plaintive yowl, "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I'm so weak eeeeeeeeeeee...." denmom.............. as regards Unca Joe... well not only did he have a better mustache than Adolf, he killed a FUCK of a lot more people, and did not have disgusting personal habits to boot! I think Joseph Stalin was not only a much cooler dictator, but REALLY punker than fuck. Bobby Steele wouldnt last 5 nanoseconds with Uncle Joe! Stalin also did NOT discriminate because of race creed or anything else. If you were in his way, you were expendable. So why dont we think Stalin is cool? huh? Plus he kicked Hitler's wehrmacht's bitchy lttle ass, dint he?! i mean probly the God he didnt believe in did it, with the Russian winter and all, but the result was Stalin 1 Hitler 0... "sieg heil mother fucker....America first.." -- PFC Kenne Highland Jim & Patricia --- The Denmotherfucker crmsngst@planet.net nrwidow@magicnet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om ------------------------------ From: EvilDieff@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:20:23 -0400 Subject: stuff bobby: i know glenn is italian, but i believe he's german also or at least that's what he said once. i figured it was just some "cool" nazi thing. i posted about it because i didn't think many people noticed. also, what someone does outside of their art really isn't anyones business. i don't agree with jerry or glenn for ripping you off. but, the only reason why i give a damn is because i'm a big fan. i wouldn't assume most people on this list are. (although i'm sure alot are.) so most people probably don't give a damn, they just wanna hear the music. nothing wrong with that, no matter who rips off who, they just like the tunes. i like alot of bands. if i stopped to give a damn about what goes on in each and every one of them outside of the music and stopped listening to all of them that did things i don't agree with i'd be listening to nothing. we support things we don't agree with every day and probably don't even know. we all pay taxes, do we all agree with our government? probably not. i'm not sure if this is making sense but, maybe you catch my drift. i'm sorry you haven't been paid, you deserve it and you're a great guitarist. ).[-\/||_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:22:18 -0500 From: GJarmola Subject: Bobby Steele Ok, first off I'd like to say two people are going to be writing from this address, me,Maria and a guy named Sid. In response to Bobby Steele in issue #190- You know as well as I do if the Misfits would have said anything, spoke out against the Nazis than the Nazis in other cities would have heard about this and like the idiots that they are would have intentionally gone to the Misfits shows to cause trouble. You know this. Why would you make such stupid comments just to make the Misfits look bad? If you're sore about something they did to you, which I know nothing about, then why don't you face the problem head on instend of insulting them in this manner? -Sid ------------------------------ From: Pdbedr@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:28:50 -0400 Subject: Ohhhh...? hello again, >Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:46:27 -0400 (EDT) >From: Jon Holford >Subject: Chris Ternes/ Bullshit in Baltimore >First, let me say that anyone who is thinking of dealing with Christopher >Ternes(hope the spelling is right) for bootlegs, definetly should. A while >back I sent him a few bucks for a few of the Proedge rehearsals and he not >only sent me all the Proedge rehearsals, but two live shows! >Thankz again Chris! Wow finally somebody found this guy. I have delt with chris a few times myself and he is a great guy. It sux that he finnally had to post his stuff out in the open. I mean I guese some of you are to stupid to look at the collectors portion of the bible! People always coming on asking for boots and buying boots well there is no need to spend the big$$$ cuz Chris comes to the rescue, of us, and the band! later, hybrid child ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:20:42 -0500 From: GJarmola Subject: IRC. HELP! Hello Fiends, I have a big problem I'm hoping someone can help me with- I have been trying to connect to the #Misfits for about a month with no luck. Called my local company who gives me the internet, wrote to cg,which he said he'd be willing to help and then didn't, wrote to Mark K.,which tried to help but I still can't get connected.So I'm hoping someone out there in Bible land can. The problem is everytime I try I either get: Disconnected,End of /MOTD command, or anable to connect to IRC server. I get these depending on which server I try to use.Any one who could help please do.Your help will be greatly appreciated. -Maria ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 03:08:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Nicholas Colella Subject: chicago show once again ill tell you graves is a punk bitch! why dont all the people who contest the validity of what i saw look at the videos of the show when graves got PULLED into the crowd by that kid he got whipped. i saw him i was two feet away from the pussy he got lit up. and i didnt see jerry or doyle running to the rescue of their new fearful leader. they kept on playing graves wanted to press charges against the kid. after the bounces had their way with him. o ya i like the kick off the end of the stage into that kids temple also. very good security for an old band with a glamrock bitch singer!!! nick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:00:39 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Its the big one... Hello to all the fiendies: its that time for all you wonderful Bible Members to do the right thing and vote for your fave design for the front of our own Bible Members T-shirt. This is how it goes: 1) Go to the Misfits Web Page 2) Go into the News section, and find the one titled Misfits Bible T-shirts 3) Look at each image 4) Pick the one you want to be on the front of the t-shirt 5) Send an e-mail to (me) tes777@bridge.net saying which design (by name of Artist) you like. 6) You have till this Sunday June 23rd. at 10PM to do this. 7) Monday's Bible will have the post of who's design will grace the front of our t-shirt. 8) The rest is up to Jerry and Mark. 9) You will be kept informed of all details up until the t-shirt is ready to ship. 10) Nice, but you have to vote if you want the best piece of art on your t-shirt. So, in simple terms: DON'T BE A TOTAL SLOTH LAZY ASS AND MAKE SURE THAT IN THE NEXT 5 DAYS. YES 5 FUCKING DAYS YOU HAVE TO GET TO A COMPUTER,LOOK AT SOME WICKED LOOKING ART, CHOOSE ONE, TYPE SOMEONES NAME ON AN E-MAIL AND SEND TO ME SO THAT WE DON'T TAKE ANOTHER COUPLE OF MONTHS JUST TALKING ABOUT IT. Got it, i would hope so. There are 778 of us and i would hope that this bunch would make some effort for a t-shirt that will be limited only to the Bible Members. Well, good luck to all the artists and thank you for taking your time to create something for such odd bunch of fiends. I do promise that i will contact the artist that gets the honors on Sunday Night. See you later fiends, though i might see some of you tomorrow if your at the show on Miami Beach. TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Max's Shirt Milwaukee Nazi dung Mark of the Devil amateur hour goes on and on I can talk, but you won't hear me... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FoetusGirl@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:31:41 -0400 Subject: our zine wants yr shyt Hola punkers and rudies. WOuld you be OH SO bloody kind to download the lovely attached file and chek it out. Thanx punx with love --;) = Hey there! This is Vital Girl (yes the name says Foetus Girl..I kno= w) from the punk zine Institutionalized. We are looking for your music, s= ubmissions and more to help make our zine better. We are young, and with = the punk communities help we can be better and bigger. = What we are looking for: Advertisements are CHEAP! We take all sizes for only five bux a po= p. = Classifieds:If you want to submit a classified it's free, for any= size. We accept classifieds for anything. = Article Submissions:Are gifts from god. 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Also, many of Hitler's victims were killed systematically as a result of their religion, sexual persuasion, physical defects, etc., not simply as a result of his mood swings. And as for Stalin's army kicking the Wermacht's ass....ha hahha hah aha are you joking? The Germans were all over the Russians until the USA intervened to open up a second front. Germany was fighting the USA, Canada, the rest of the British Commonwealth, and virtually all of Europe; the USSR was fighting only Germany (well I guess Italy too) and LOSING QUITE BADLY for most of the war. Hitler definitely gets (and deserves) the dubious prize. And as for that little comment about Hitler being unsure of his heritage...surely you aren't making some allusion to the well-spread myth that he was part-Jewish, are you? I have heard that before, and it is nothing more than a product of idiots' imaginations. Believe me, I have read extensively on the subject. now onto more Misfits-related things (sort of): I saw an advertisement for the '96 San Diego Comicon, and it DID NOT list Glenn as a guest. The Verotik WWW page does list several other Verotik creators, though. So the Con probably shouldn't interfere with any SUPPOSED Danzig-tour plans. BTW, I heard back in April that Danzig was to tour in May opening for White Zombie, in order to "showcase" the new bassist and guitarist...obviusly this didn't happen. And according to Eerie's hotline, Chuck Biscuits is drumming for Social Distortion; John is working on more XXX-movie soundtracks; Eerie's "Uneasy Listening" is due July 18 (?); and Glenn has no news on the release of Danzig V. (I *believe* he also said that he still hasn't found a new bassist or guitarist, but I could be imagining it) finally: Mark, how about some huge disclaimer at the top of the WWW page (or each issue of the Bible) stating that everyone already knows about the meaning of "138" and the "Saved by the Bell" Evilive poster? And I guess while you're at it you could add something like: "the Misfits are not metal, the Misfits are not punk, so if you're going to complain about them selling out, we've heard it all before and don't want to again" -Brett ------------------------------ From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 11:36:58 EDT >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:00 CDT >From: Mark Lerret >Subject: Metalfest > >I just saw an ad for the Milwaukee Metalfest. It will be a 2 day show, >July 26th and 27th, at the Rave. "Anthrax, The Misfits, GWAR, Clutch, >Cannibal Corpse, Carnivore, plus 50 other bands" is Carnivore? REALLY?!?!? I thought that was pretty much dead issue. Besides, isn'tPeter Steele touring w/ Ozzie right now? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:17:07 -0400 (EDT) >From: "William P. Musso" >Subject: misfits now vs. then > >As people who have read my comments before know, I do not like >metal, sell-out, or major label crap. I hope it does not happen, but >ifthe misfits sign to a major or become the next MTV sensation I will >simply stop supporting them, and I won't buy their music any more. There is something I don't really understand... WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT BEING BIG?!?!? Why is someone a sell out if they sign up with a big label, or get recognized on MTV, if there music style doesn't change because of it? What's the sin there? And not the Misfits are headed in this direction, but if they were, why would you simply stop supporting them? Fuck, I'd be happy for 'em and happy that their music will be exposed to greater audiences. Just one man's opinion (not posted for anyone to post me an insulting response...) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:38:06 -0400 (EDT) >From: Denmother Patricia >Subject: what your denmother did on her summer vacation > >as for the previously reported event of last week, where the world >famed tag team of me and CG took the Bobster to dinner and walked >around the village Just curious, where'd you guys take him to eat? I'm in the Village all the time... Lastly, anyone NYC'ers out there going to check out the show at Roseland on 06/28? Maybe we can meet or something... DeViLoCkXXX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:23:31 +0200 (METDST) From: Franz Ardito Subject: Glenn's Italian? oh no... What's this story about Glenn being italian? I hope for the man this is just a rumor. Well if it's true I cannot blame him for changing his last name (actually it sounds like the typical south-of-Italy name, to be exact). Who would possibly want to be associated with those fascists-soccer-idiots-mafia-pizza eaters? Yeah, better be called a cocky German nazi, yeah, that's cool...:) bye franz ------------------------------ Date: 19 JUN 96 14:34:22 EDT From: GKichlin@mobile.bam.com Subject: BLACK VOMIT!!!! I saw this realy kick ass punk band a few years back call Black Vomit. Did anyone ever hear of them?? They freakin kicked butt on stage!!!! If anyone ever heard of them let me know!!! gk Ronnie Biggs says "The Rock and Roll Swindle" Its the soundtrack of your life!!! ------------------------------ From: Paul Hahn Subject: assorted things Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:42:10 -0400 (EDT) well i could go off on many things. metal isn't my fav music, and i don't like extremists. but i'll leave that @ this. assholes are assholes, reguardless of being "punk" or "metal" "nazi" or "sharp" about the incident w/ bobby in muskegon, i never believed the rumour i heard from some friend who said this little cripple intimidated a bunch o nazis. i guess i do now. its called kicking the biggest guy in the balls real hard. they do back down, cause if you can hurt their best, then they are afraid. maybe some people just don't have the balls to try. also to our patriarchs(sp?) CG and denmother. well i think AIDS scares people more cause it affects our national pastime, sex. and i've got muscles, but i'm a part-time mechanic, so i think they're sorta usefull, wouldn't you think? -- Paul Hahn You think you're a fine exanple of culture, hahnpaul@acm.msu but you're nothing but a high fashion vulture. Check out the speedball page @ http://www.acm.cps.msu.edu/~hahnpaul/speedball ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:06:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Jackal Subject: a few comments >From: Feb31959@aol.com >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 >Subject: Dorks > >you guys are all a bunch of fucking pussies and I will gladly kick all of your >collective asses any day. I got myself one of those form-fitted steel fist HA HA HA. I see we have another Wes Thomas. Big talk from behind a computer screen. What a stupid ass! Smitty Jackal on Mirc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:39:56 -0700 From: Richard Hinojos Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #193 > From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com > Subject: bible 192 > > 2. Ben Todd - Sorry, but I don't know what "down with LA RAZA" means. down for the race, man. it's a latino thang... > From: "Neil E. McAllister" > Subject: Random comments on Misfits & the state of punk rock > > ...if you go > out nights looking to pick fights and start shit and generally make > everybody's life miserable, then you're an asshole. how very true. nazi skins or minority gangs, assholes are assholes. > From: Cecil Pollard > Subject: Misfits in Jacksonville > > Horror Business, Last Caress (which the bald guy from Anthrax > joined in on, Scott? i think his name is). scott ian rosenfeld. he was in the pit at the demonsweatlive show. damn, he's short. about this whole glenn vs michale thing: glenn has left the misfits. michale is the new singer. deal with it! if jerry and doyle like what the kid does, chances are he's gonna stay. glenn had his opportunity to get back in. discrimination comes out of fear of the unknown. "we dont know what it is, nor do we have the intelligence to find out what it is, so it must be dealt with." holocaust, anyone? the trail of tears? china's oppression of women? those of you who haven't heard michale sing have that mentality. some of you slag him voice unheard, sight unseen. find out whether he has it or not FOR YOURSELF (don't rely on hearsay) before you judge the kid. otherwise, please step to the right and join the pinheaded nazis. you'd be able to communicate well together. that's all i have to say about that... ryq ------------------------------ Date: 19 JUN 96 17:10:51 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: Nazism, Punk Rock, and the Misfits hello all 1. Brett Fama - You are partly right, Mengele also escaped to Argentina, they had a special on that on the Discovery Channel a while back that was pretty cool. 2. Zodiac - IMHO, Punk Rock does not need to be violent, regardless of what that a-hole Malcom McLaren thought. I've been going to punk shows and playing in punk bands for 13 years and I have seen violent shows and cool shows. There is nothing about punk (not that i'm an expert) that says you have to beat the hell out of the guy next too you to have a good time. Personally, i dont get into the pit, i have a bad back and dont want to end up in a wheel chair and i like to watch the band play. However, I dont consider slamming violent. If you are in the pit and the guy next to you goes down and you pick him up, thats not violence. Thats two guys (gals) having a good time enjoying the music that is being played and expressing it through their dancing/moshing/whatever. If you go into the pit in order to cause as much pain to the other people in there, then you are an asshole, and your bring violence to punk that doesnt need to be there. Sure the music is aggressive and gets your adrenalin going, but you dont need to break a chair over someones head to get into the band. If someones into punk to kick peoples ass, they should join the army, be a cop, play football or go to jail, dont get your kicks at our shows. By the way, the Dayglo Abortions kick ass! 3. Mark - thanks for keeping this list going. It brings alot of the fans together to talk about the band they love. You got the coolest site on the web, keep up the great work. 4. If there are 778 fiends on this list, what do you say we all chip in $0.10 (thats ten cents) and pool our money to cut Bobby a check for the $75 that Jerry owes him so he can get on with his life. :) 5. Can we call ProEdge and ask the receptionist to page Jerry Only when they aint on tour if we need questions answered (just kidding!!! :) "Paging Mr. Only, you have a Mr. Steele on line 1" 6. I'll be at the Roseland show, hope to meet the guys this time around! 7. Stalin - he was da man, and if he couldnt do it, no one can. They say god has been having delusions of grandeur, he thinks he is Stalin. "who played last night, i don't i forgot, but diving off the stage was alot of fun. so eager to please, peer pressure decrees, make the same old mistakes, again and again, CHICKENSHIT CONFORMIST LIKE YOUR PARENTS" - Jello Biafra - Bedtime for Democracy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:43:14 -0400 From: Mark Subject: Things + Michale The postcards have been mailed out, so if you're in the Fiend Club, you should get them soon. Also, the show on June 29th is now taking place at Webster Theatre in Hartford, CT - NOT in Pittsburgh. Also: 1) Hey Everyone, I'm collecting questions for Michale - if there's anything you've ever wanted to ask the guy, send it to me and I'll send it to him and he'll send it back to me. 2) Greg - I just wanted you to know that I like your shirt design except for the cross part, and I think maybe we should remove your first shirt design so we don't confuse people. Let me know what you think. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:57:05 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: Re: For Neil and Brett Hey Neil, Right on about the comments on SHARPS/WPs. Two sides of the same extremist coin. Everything you said I can totally agree with. Brett (Fama), Hey there Brett. I'm glad you made the corrections about the Mengele stuff. And Goebbels and his family croaked right there in Berlin outside of Hitler's bunker. However, as someone said, there is a sort of connection, at least IMHO between Glennard and the Reich. It's been said that he has a great interest in both World wars, but have you ever read some of the interviews with Glenn involving hius views on race, Farrakhan (or however the fug ya spell it), etc. Not necessarily racist, but quite interesting. Keep a look out for the song "White Devil Rise" when he releases V. Anyway, further (perhaps) proof of Glenn's fascination with the Reich that would disprove the innocence of the West German tri-color as an emblem of novelty (and more of an affiliation with the nation and its history): look at some of the other fotos in the box set book. You'll notice a Death's Head pin on the lapel of his jacket in one or more pictures. The Death's Head, as you probably already know, was the insignia for some of the German Hussars in WWI, and emblem of the Schutzstaffel, or SS during the second world war. Deutschland, Deutschland, uber alles, baby! And "raza" does mean race, or people. Volk. Anyway, props out to CG and Denmom. While we're on the topic of the Danzig> Third Reich > Holocaust> Jewish annihilation...I'd like to second the motion on "I am tired of people bitching." Everyone has gone through shit: every race, every religion, every demographic possible...So shut tha fug up about the shit. Or at least realize that Jews aren't the only ones to ever suffer. Dammit, the Holocaust was a fucking atrocity that we must *never* forget, but let's move the fuck on people! And perhaps we can even move past the bombing of innocent Lebanese and the persecution of your Arab *brothers and sisters*!!!!!! OK, I'm off the soapbox... If any of y'all are interested in topics like the ones just ranted over, please check out the Op Man. Contact CG for details. I think that is probably a bit more of an appropriate forum than the Misfits Bible. Later, Ben(ito) ============================================================================== "...I have only come here seeking knowledge Things they would not teach me of in college..." -The PO-lice ============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:29:05 -0400 Subject: MIsfits@the Roselands The Misfits show at the Roselands is definitely on Friday the 28th, not the 27th. I called the Roselands' box office and checked. They said that it was originally scheduled for the 27th but the date was changed. But apparently the date on the Misfits show listings haven't been changed accordingly. The post-cards that went out recently still had the show for the 27th. Anyway, I hope no one shows up on Thursday and wonders why there's no show that night. Hopefully they'll look at their tickets and realize when the real show is ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:36:05 -0700 From: adam bodnar Subject: Xxiippyy Right on, Xxiippyy! I loved what you said in Wednesday's bible. I couldn't agree with you more. One thing I've learned about Booby Steele (this is not a typo) is that his stories keep changing every issue and when he fucks up, it isn't his fault...you just don't understand his sense of humour! Get real...I guess he just doesn't understand the humour of us college guys. DiaBoLos '96 ------------------------------ From: JediMas138@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:47:24 -0400 Subject: The Crimson Ghost Serial HELLo Fiends And Fiendets. I Got Alot Of Cash Over The Weekend And I Went To Best Buy To Go Burn A Hole In My Pocket. Well Anyway While I Was Working My Way Over To The Danzig Section To Pick Up The I Don't Mind The Pain Single On CD, I Glanced Up At What Is Now My 2nd Favorite Movie Type Thing.(1st Being Devil Man) The Crimson Ghost Serial(No, Not The Thing You Eat For Breakfast). You Know How In The 40's People Would Go To The Movies But It Wasn't Really A Movie? They'd Come Back Every Week To See The Next Episode. Thats What A Serial Is. The Crimson Ghost Is This Guy Who Wants This Machine That Stops Atomic Bombs. This Is The First Time I've Ruted For The Bad Guy! If You See This In A Store Anywhere, Its A Double Video With All 12 Episodes. It Is A Must Buy! Especially If You Like The Misfits. And The Lone Ranger Is The CG's Sidekick. Well, He's Not The Lone Ranger In The Thing. Oh, Whatever. Oh, Yeah, Has Any Body Heard From Torch Lately? I Bet Everyone In The Bible Wants To Hear What He Has To Say. Bye All. JediMaster138, Darklord Of The Sith ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- The World SHUDDERS Before This ATOMIC MANIAC!<---The CG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- ------------------------------ From: Jaymz666@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:40:52 -0400 Subject: Re: chicago show writes: I'd love to see this video that you are talking about! I was about five feet away from this, and the fuck who got the shit kicked out of him was still wrestling security. Why do you fuck with security? You never win! Now, I didn't see exactly what this kid did to have Graves beat the fuck out of him, but I'd love to see the video that you claim exists! Dan ------------------------------ From: ACHAMELEON@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:47:05 -0400 Subject: biscuits i heard on a radio station here in los angeles that biscuits has joined social distortion. later, -rich ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:09:54 -0700 From: Norman Bates Subject: For Sale The following are for sale: 7 inch singles Halloween w/ insert $85 Evilive w/ insert fiend club ed. #113 $95 Three Hits From Hell (white vinyl) $95 Three Hits From Hell (blk. vinyl) $75 Three Hits From Hell (same label on both sides) very rare $125 12 inch Walk Among Us (pink cover) $85 Evilive (green vinyl) $45 Evilive (blk. vinyl) $40 Wolfs Blood/Earth A.D. (german press) $50 Legacy (white) $95 Legacy (white w/pink streaks) $110 Initium (red vinyl) $95 Initium (blk. w/ white streaks) $125 November (orange vinyl w/ lyric sheet) $95 November (blk. vinyl on REVOLVER label) $150 All prices are final. Thanks Mr. Bates ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 02:28:58 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: danzig iii summer tour stalin carnivore i think perhaps there are 3 editions of the danzig iii disk. the first one with the geiger cover on def american, the second limited box set editon on def american and a third reissue on american after they changed their name. i saw on some web site danzig is starting his tour in july, so maybe he can go to that comic convention after all... i wish i could find out some dates... stalin never recieved as much attention for his crimes because he came out on the winning side of wwII i'm sure if germany would have won the war the only attrocities mentioned would be the allied bombings on civillian targets (colateral damage as they say) thats cool if carnavore is playing at that metalfest i thought the broke up (for the last time) about a year ago... peter steele from type o neg fronts for them if you didn't know. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 01:50:45 -0500 From: lestat Subject: Re: MetalFest >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:00 CDT >From: Mark Lerret >Subject: Metalfest > >I just saw an ad for the Milwaukee Metalfest. It will be a 2 day show, July >26th and 27th, at the Rave. "Anthrax, The Misfits, GWAR, Clutch, Cannibal >Corpse, Carnivore, plus 50 other bands" is what the ad said. They are selling 1 >and 2 day passes. I have heard from others about that show, BUT, from past experience, the bands like to cancel a lot.... i hope, for the general population of Milwaukee that the misfits don't!...hehe.... anyway, a question, If possible, could you find the date that the `Fits are playing? (Hopefully Clutch will be the same day) I sure as hell don't wanna be down there for 2 days, ugg second day is hell.... > >The Misfits and GWAR at the same show ?? I must be in heaven... The Misfits and Clutch!!! I AM in heaven!.. hehehe >I'll post more details as I get them. > >Mark Lerret >lerret@vaxl1.danavictor.com RaTTFiNK ****************************************************************************** rattfink@keepsafe.com "I Don't give a Fuck Who you are, I'm Gonna kill you lestat@netnet.net "Anyway!" -- Mr. Blonde, Res. Dogs ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 01:50:54 -0700 From: C Farrell Subject: eViL Hi all. First of all. could you all stop talking about Nazis!?! I mean it's all trivial bullshit. No one is going to change anybody else's opinion so just shut the fuck up!!!! Secondly: When the hell is the Misfits show at roseland?? I read here that it was the 28th, but got mail from the fiend club that it was on the 27th. all I know is I better not be sitting on some dirty ass train, paying $20 roundtrip to the city, just to find out the show isn't happening that night. Someone tell me whats going on. third: Bobby Steele rules. fourth: I run an indy label for punk, Hardcore, and metal(ish) bands. If you have a band that might be interested in working with me, or if you want me to carry your demos, 7"s, etc. on my mailing list. write me at: GogmaGod Records Rd 1 box 172 Rt.22 Wassaic, NY 12592 or call me at: Tom (914) 877-6927 before 1pm weekdays and lastly: I know there has been an ongoing debate about Earth AD. Well fuck everyone that doesn't like it. Its the most violent brutal record I've ever heard and it rules. Its pure rage in your face and it kicks ass on any record by any of these cheesy metal or alternative bands who think they're all hard ass. as far as I'm concerned ( me mind you, Im just boasting an opinion so don't get all huffy and puffy), EAD practically invented Thrash. anyway bye. Devils are born in angels arms. Tom Undermine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:29:00 +0000 From: American Nightmare Subject: Boston I looked at the tour list and Boston is not included Will the Misfits hit boston this tour the middle east show was great but i hope they come back with anthrax ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:54:17 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: Misfits in DC! The Washington CityPaper says the Misfits are playing the Capitol Ballroom on Aug. 2 w/ Anthrax, Life o' Agony, and Bob Dole's favorite band, Cannibal Corpse. Can I tell you how happy this makes me? Capitol Ballroom is only like 5 blocks from my house. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:26:43 -0400 Subject: Max's Shirt Hey, All right, I looked at my original post and I left off a very important point. The shirt that I am auctioning off has NEVER been worn. Therefore it's clean, I wouldn't try passing off a used shirt to someone. Once again, Max's X-mas shirt. Extra large. Autographed by Jerry Only and Doyle. I will start the bids at $5. The auction of sorts will end June 26. E-mail ChristoTer@aol.com ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:29:56 -0400 Subject: Milwaukee Fiends, I don't care if I have to walk! Milwaukee Metal Fest!!!!!!!! Friday night---Misfits/Anthrax. Saturdat night---GWAR!!!!!!!!! CARNIVORE with Peter Steele will be there!!!!!! Life of Agony, Jungle Rot, Internal Bleeding, Oppresor will also be there along with 50 others. Eagles Auditorium. Tickets are 30 for one day, 50 for both. July 26 and 27. Friday show begins at 5. Saturday show begins at noon. Doors open one hour early. Perhaps we should arrange a meeting place for Bible people? Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:09:23 -0800 From: Kanak Crew When does the metalfest in Milwaukee start? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 22:35 +0100 From: Peter Moeller Subject: Nazi dung I really don't know what to think about this crap... >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:33:05 -0400 >From: Crimson Ghost >Subject: Hitler vs. big bad Joe` > >I was trying to remember what I wanted to post about but couldn't. I called >up the Denmother for a little inspiration and of course she reminded me what >the to write about. You see we always have the same ideas at the same time, >so we figured we'd just do this one together.......First me: .... [deleted due to space restrictions... or something...] .... >as regards Unca Joe... >well not only did he have a better mustache than Adolf, he killed habits to boot! I think Joseph Stalin was not only a much cooler >dictator, but REALLY punker than fuck. Bobby Steele wouldnt last >5 nanoseconds with Uncle Joe! >Stalin also did NOT discriminate because of race creed or anything else. >If you were in his way, you were expendable. >So why dont we think Stalin is cool? huh? >Plus he kicked Hitler's wehrmacht's bitchy lttle ass, dint he?! i mean >probly the God he didnt believe in did it, with the Russian winter and >all, but the result was Stalin 1 Hitler 0... > >"sieg heil mother fucker....America first.." -- PFC Kenne Highland > > Jim & Patricia --- The Denmotherfucker > crmsngst@planet.net nrwidow@magicnet.net > http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om > I know you two are both beeing very sarcastic 'bout that stuff (stop reading your Answer ME! collection for a moment), but me as a German I'm getting slightly pissed off by shit like that... I'm just imagenining *myself* saying stuff like this - at *least* I would get called a neo-nazi, racist and fascist. Maybe I'm a bit touchy about the whole deal (maybe I'm just jealous 'cos I can't say stuff like that without getting hit on the head), but can't you try and be a little more respectful with this stuff? Maybe you think I'm really dumb 'cos I said that but I can't help but I'm getting the feeling that some of you forget the serious matter. I'm not preaching and I'm definitely not PC (I watch porn, drink alcohol and eat meat) but... you catch my drift... Fuck you I'm from Germany! Peter ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:18:50 -0400 Subject: Mark of the Devil This has nothing to do with the Misfits but, a while ago (how long I don't know) someone posted about how they were finding promo barf bags for the classic witch torture film "Mark of the Devil" all over the place at their nearby movie theatres or drive-ins. If the person who posted this is reading this, please e-mail me to let me know if you have any or if you're still finding them around. Being a collector of horror film items, these are great finds. I'm not interested in used bags, of course, though. Anyway, now back to your regular Misfits programming ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:08:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: amateur hour goes on and on and when you turn pro, she lets you know! Hey you guys and guyettes, hope everyone is getting lots of basal cell carcinoma for the future dermatologists of America. I know I am certainly doing my part. just a few things (eewwww!) Feb: oh my. Please, honey, come here. let me SLAP YOU ONE GOOD TIME! what are you so angry about!? If you study hard I bet you will graduate the 6th grade, just like Jethro Bodine did! Not to worry! and if you don't, well to quote Duff from GnR "huh....well?". Bile 666: yes the FM of F Famous Monsters Fan/Fiend Club has had that logo for a long time, sorry to report. With the Lon Chaney "phantom" pic in the middle. Oh well. Sorry I missed you when I was up that way but i was very busy ruining marriages while in Jersey. Did you know that you and Joseph Kallenger share the same birthday, BTW? pretty cool! sigh, sorry D-Rod, i will talk to you soon. best wishes to all the new fiends and for the old ones, I got a letter from Adam 7--he sez Wes Thomas sends his fondest regards for us all and has much planned for NEXT year.... ;) no kidding! he did really say that. and I love you Pumpkin. please dont forget to support the TShirt project--kennedys the reason, remember! all artwork and hey! I need BLACK AND WHITE photos of all Misfits past present and future! for the calendar. lastly..go see the kickass Times Square at the Pyramid in Loisaida. (thats the Lower East Side to you jerks who dont know their way around.. right CG?) love to all,,, p !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " she can show you what you must do, to be more like people better than you... " Denmother Patricia Ragan Hoehner Fiendtroop #138 nrwidow@magicnet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/OM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:16:52 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: I can talk, but you won't hear me... Hello to all you wonderful fiends out there: how to start this, i guess i should start with the fact that i saw the Misfits on Wednesday night. Am i going to give you all a total run down of songs and every detail no, am i going to compare Glenn and Michale's voices no. You would have to have the hearing of a dog to even hear his voice over Jerry, Doyle and CHUD. Even Michale pointed out to me before the show that he felt they were to loud. I even had the guy right in my face when we sang parts of 20 Eyes and Astro Zombies together. Other than that i was almost beheaded by a stupid crowd surfer, three times, one guy getting a little to close with his hands, though not smart move on a pissed off fiend wearing heavy boots. He got kicked where it count a couple of times.( getting groped is something i would rather leave up to my boyfriend and not some psycho at a Misfits show) But i was only pissed cause of the pain, that and the cut on my nose, right next to my eye. The evening started out much nicer i must say, we had missed the guys sound check by 10 to 15 minutes. They cut out to the beach to go swimming. After dinner we caught up with them which was really cool, nothing like having a wet Jerry Only come running up to you and grapping on for a big hug and a kiss. Yes we had a blast hanging out before the show and talking about Miami, and their next stop, Fort Myers. They seem to like going to beaches and swimming. One roadie said to Doyle that he should sit out and get a tan, he needs it cause he's Italian, Doyle just sat and laughed. all my stuff got signed, we got pictures, plus Jerry and Doyle gave us t-shirts, sticker, postcard and other stuff. The show was packed, as far as fights i didn't see any. CHUD was kind of not sure about Miami. We were hanging out before he went to workout at a local gym, he just didn't take to well to seeing the employees of the gym making out(if this sounds strange why would he care, though i guess seeing two guys going at it was the last thing he wanted to see) and all i could do was laugh. He also didn't take to the first act, nothing like watching a bunch of guys tossing their hair all over the stage. So in all the show was great, everyone was super nice and even the security guards who were to busy protecting me than Michale, were making sure i got bottle water during the show as Jerry and Michale doled it out, plus i was given the last guitar pick Doyle used for the night. But then again i would hope anyone would get the same treatment that i did if you had three different crowd surfers take your head down to the baracade. For most of you who are thinking that is not a big deal, i stand 5' small build, even though i do workout. And having some Huge 6' guy weighing 180 - 200 pounds come down on your neck and head is not the most comfortable thing. Though the best by far was watching Jerry dive into the crowd and surf behind me, and he takes it literaly, he looked as if he was on a board, flat on his stomach paddling with his arms. Michale took 3 - 4 dives but nothing like the way Jerry does it. Next thing: we need to get on the ball with the voting, so far i have 12 votes. What is fucking wrong with you people, this is your t-shirt as much as it's mine. ***GET OFF YOU FUCKING LAZY ASS AND E-MAIL IN YOUR VOTES, YOU ONLY HAVE TILL SUNDAY, GOT IT. THEN MOVE, NOW!!!*** Here is what you need to do again: its that time for all you wonderful Bible Members to do the right thing and vote for your fave design for the front of our own Bible Members T-shirt. This is how it goes: 1) Go to the Misfits Web Page 2) Go into the News section, and find the one titled Misfits Bible T-shirts 3) Look at each image 4) Pick the one you want to be on the front of the t-shirt 5) Send an e-mail to (me) tes777@bridge.net saying which design (by name of Artist) you like. 6) You have till this Sunday June 23rd. at 10PM to do this. 7) Monday's Bible will have the post of who's design will grace the front of our t-shirt. 8) The rest is up to Jerry and Mark. 9) You will be kept informed of all details up until the t-shirt is ready to ship. 10) Nice, but you have to vote if you want the best piece of art on your t-shirt. Oh one last thing, there have been some comments made lately that have been a bit to much. One the bit on the Jews and how they go on about the holocaust, well if you belonged to a race of people that where millions were killed for no more than mere hate you would not be happy and sprouting joy either. And in no way can these deaths be even remotely compared to death by disease. By the way(to that asshole who made this comment) anyone stupid enough to tell you that the Jews killed Jesus i guess didn't read his history book, the Romans killed him. Maybe you need that book smacked against your head a couple more times so the information sticks. In the big picture this is not the place for racial disagreements or hate. I believe this is the Misfits Bible and that bible DOES NOT hold any specific religion or race. It has to do with old horror and a bunch a guys that took the music to a level that no other band could ever reach. Let's try to get back to reality. As for Bobby, he can say what he feels he needs to say. I don't care how money he is owed, but if any of you were in need of the money and someone owed it to you, you would be upset and yelling about it too. I'm not saying that the bible should be this perfect and never have an argument place, but it just is taken a little to far. SO get your fucken votes in and i'll see you all in the next action packed issue. TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Re: Misfits Bible, #194 Cleveland Show 138 Times Square And in the lead... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:12:30 -0400 From: Mark X Subject: STOP! Fiends No more Nazi talk, please. How about talking about The Misfits or something... Thanks mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:59:16 -0400 From: Cj Subject: longtime reader, first time bitcher... Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:23:31 +0200 (METDST) From: Franz Ardito Subject: Glenn's Italian? oh no... -Who would possibly want to be associated with those -fascists-soccer-idiots-mafia-pizza eaters? Yeah, better be called a cocky -German nazi, yeah, that's cool...:) "Ardito" sounds like a pretty obvious Italian name; are you in denial or something? what the hell does someone's talents have to do with ethnicity? I truly hope yr joking and are not as ignorant as you seem to be... *Cj* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:48:36 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: OK, enough is enough... Hey Fiends, Just thought that I'd throw a few things out: -Over the past few issues of the Bible, you'd think that this was a "Race and Reason" episode or some shit with all the talk of race and Nazism and shit. (Which I feel at least partly responsible for.) Well, I want to second Tes777's (sorry, I forgot your real name!) motion about cutting all of this talk. I find all of that shit fascinating (I'm also a history major--sorry), but this is the MISFITS Bible. Some of that shit can be related to Danzig/Misfits, but I think all of us have gone a bit beyond those bounds. SO, I propose that any further discussions of history/conflict be moved to the Op Man (that's cool, right CG?). Contact CG for details... Finally, though: -MR. HINOJOS: Right on about your last post: assholes are assholes, no matter how they wear their Dickies. I'm kind of curious about the line-ups for the Misfits tour. There's Anthrax, Cannibal Corpse and some others, right? If the Misfits aren't metal (which I *don't* think they are), it's kinda weird that they're touring with all these metal bands, y'know? I'm not saying that's good or bad, just making a comment... Also, the T-shirts were great guys. Good work. I wish I could put the shit on my refrigerator... Later, Ben(ito) ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] DOWN WITH THE ALTERNATARDS!!! Ben Todd toddb@gas.uug.arizona.edu [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ ------------------------------ From: "Cheryl M. Walley" Subject: Saved by the bell Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:50:41 -0500 (CDT) I wipe my butt with saved by the bell. ------------------------------ Date: 21 JUN 96 08:17:31 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com i vote for the Bjorn shirt. by the way, i think i may be the stupid asshole you were reffering too about the Jews killing Jesus and I think you may have misinterpreted what I was saying. I wasnt saying thats what I believe, I was saying that was the reason (one of many actually) for much of the violence against Jews. Until recently, that Catholic Schools taught that the Jews killed Jesus, and thats what was one of many underyling reasons for Inquisition, Holocaust, Pogroms, etc, usually committed by Christians (not being very Christ like) against Jews. If they read their own goddamn bible (not the misfits bible) they would realize that Jesus's death was inevitable and predestined (if you believe that sort of stuff) Personally I dont believe in Jesus/God as a diety and I have 0 anti- semetic/racist bones in my body. I was just trying to make a point that Hitler may be the bad guy of this century, but if you look in the totality of history, Christianity in general, and especially Catholocism, are responsible for more death, destruction and misery than Hitler and Stalin could do on their best day. At this point i'll drop the subject, cause it has nothing do to anymore with the Misfits Just my two cents on non misfits related material. Anyway, 1 week to the Roseland show. They better kick ass like always (like I have any doubt they will) (give me a child at 10 years old, and he is mine for life) - Pope Pius Something Or Other. AZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:31:58 -0700 From: Dave Naked Subject: Hey fiends---this is my first post...so dont be to brutal: 1. on the Kryst the Conquerer ep there is a song called "Dr. Phibes rises again". Im not sure if phibes is a cult hero or what not, but there is another song from an old NWOBHM band called ANGEL WITCH...there song is simply titled "Dr. Phibes" and appeares on the long out of print LOSER ep. This may be of interest because jerry may use "Dr. phibes..." as a MiSFiT track. BTW: if anyone here has a KRYST ep for sale (pref. cd)...i am very interested... 2. on another note on LOAD metallica ripped the shit off of DANZIG..."Thorn withen"/"Snakes of Christ" 3. Mark: I know you know "nothing else" (other than what you posted about blacklight, but i may not be able to get to a MiSFiTs show over the summer....so will it be available to bible members??? or will you post some exerts on the web page?? 4. Bobby: You have a lot to say...so why not write a book. later, dave naked ps: yes i am a MiSFiT tape trader...so email me if you want my list. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:55:51 PST Subject: graves From: "Jay P." By the way, Who is this Mike Graves guy?? Where did the misfits find him. Does anybody have any info on him. Sorry if this has been discussed before. HellHound ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:15:29 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last issue --->AZawodny@mobile.bam.com: >4. If there are 778 fiends on this list, what do you say we all chip in $0.10 >(thats ten cents) and pool our money to cut Bobby a check for the $75 that >Jerry owes him so he can get on with his life. :) hehehHAHAH - That's fuckin' great - I'd even pop for an extra $10! if he'd promise to shut up about it. >5. Can we call ProEdge and ask the receptionist to page Jerry Only when they >aint on tour if we need questions answered (just kidding!!! :) > "Paging Mr. Only, you have a Mr. Steele on line 1" Actually the hmmm...Receptionists?? there are slightly ruff around the edges. Anyone that's ever called the hotline can attest to that. Number one if you asked to speak with "Mr. Only" they would prolly say "HUH? WTF?" and if you asked for Jerry you would surely be put through to his old man. A page for "our" Jerry sounds more like this: (imagine a nasal whine) "Mo 67" --->JediMas138@aol.com >....Section To Pick Up The I Don't Mind The Pain Single >On CD, I Glanced Up At What Is Now My 2nd Favorite Movie Type Thing.(1st >Being Devil Man) The Crimson Ghost ..... I have no idea what your post is about. Why? Because it's fucking illegible you friggin idiot. I suppose you think you're being Punk as Fuck capitalising every fucking word, don't ya? Next time how about trying not to be so cool. If your looking for a response to the whole Hitler v. Joe issue. You'll not be able to read it here. It's off topic, I'm posting it on Opman so if you're too cool to subscribe check out the page, current and back issues are available there http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om - To one of the few I respect: \ Brett, it was just sarcasm, relax. ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ "Mr. Brown, Mr. White, Mr. Blonde, Mr. Blue, Mr. Orange, Mr Pink...." "Why am I Mr. Pink" "Because you're a Faggot, alright?" The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ Operator's Manual http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:22:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Fama Subject: help with Latin + Possession who's studying latin? if you can figure out what those chicks are chanting throughout "Possession" then post it. I'm positive the 2nd of the 4 words is "incubus" (a female demon that comes to men at night) but neither I nor Mark is 100% sure about the other 3. If you can understand what they're saying (and possibly provide a definition)...post it! (mark thinks #1 is "cerebrus" ; i think #3 is something like "nominae") > From: Franz Ardito > Subject: Glenn's Italian? oh no... nope; only *part* Italian...like me. thank god (no offence, but I need my mother's side of the genes to help keep *some* of the body-hair away) > From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com > Subject: Nazism, Punk Rock, and the Misfits > 1. Brett Fama - You are partly right, Mengele also escaped to Argentina, they > had a special on that on the Discovery Channel a while back that was pretty > cool. yes; although I did not deny that Megele went to Argentina (actually, I completely forgot...thanks for the wake-up). It was Goebbels whom someone said went there, and of course, he had other plans for himself and his kin. (Thanks also for getting Megele's name right...when posting originally I mispelled it, and not ONE of my dad's books here even mentioned him, so I couldn't check) > From: Ben Todd > Subject: Re: For Neil and Brett > However, as someone said, there is a sort of connection, at least > IMHO between Glennard and the Reich. It's been said that he has a great yes, but as Glenn is quick to point out, interest in Nazism does not make you a Nazi (nor a racist). > interest in both World wars, but have you ever read some of the > interviews with Glenn involving hius views on race, Farrakhan (or however > the fug ya spell it), etc. Not necessarily racist, but quite > interesting. Keep a look out for the song "White Devil Rise" when he > releases V. Anyway, further (perhaps) proof of Glenn's fascination with ha! I kept a look out for it when Danzig 4p came out...I have several of those interviews, in most of which Glenn said the song would be on it. Imagine my surprise... I wonder if the song will create any sort of controversy, especially now that Farrakhan (I think the spelling you have is correct) has gotten much more press since the "million man march" on Washington. Glenn's views certainly aren't racist, but that doesn't mean others will see them that way. As I see it, in order to be racist, you have to believe that one "race" is inherently inferior to another. Since only HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS walk the earth, you can't even identify any other races. (Therefore anyone who's racist is an idiot). But just think of the racial tensions there'd be if HOMO SAPIENS NEANDERTALENSIS were still around... > the Reich that would disprove the innocence of the West German tri-color > as an emblem of novelty (and more of an affiliation with the nation and > its history): look at some of the other fotos in the box set book. > You'll notice a Death's Head pin on the lapel of his jacket in one or > more pictures. The Death's Head, as you probably already know, was the > insignia for some of the German Hussars in WWI, and emblem of the > Schutzstaffel, or SS during the second world war. Deutschland, > Deutschland, uber alles, baby! (I'm being picky...) actually the death's head was technically *not* the SchutzstaffelN's emblem. (notice the "n" at the end...I know it's often spelled without it in books, but for some reason I hate that spelling) anyway: the death's head skull was the insignia of the TOTENKOPFVERBANDE ***division*** of the SS, who ran the camps. However, you WILL see that skull on virtually all SS uniforms, and also on the headgear of Wermacht officers who had nothing to do with the SS...yes, as well as on the jacket Glenn's wearing on the last page of the Box set book, as well as on that hat Ian Astbury is wearing inside the booklet to The Cult's "Electric" album, and in NUMEROUS other places. Thus I would not necessarily attribute the skull to any feeling other than the belief that it looks cool. And again, other thatn the fact that they shared the same home country, the tri-colour flag has NOTHING to do with Nazism. I can see how people make the connection, but there are probably many Germans today who would resent it. Anyway, anyone who has seen the MuchMusic interview with John, Eerie and Joey knows that the (ex-) band are completely against racist and fascist ideas. Joey said he was often told (prior to joining) that "Danzig are racists", and then said "I haven't gotten any sort of vibe like that from these guys. I really don't think I'd be in the band right now if that were true." > Anyway, props out to CG and Denmom. While we're on the topic of > the Danzig> Third Reich > Holocaust> Jewish annihilation...I'd like to > second the motion on "I am tired of people bitching." Everyone has gone > through shit: every race, every religion, every demographic possible...So > shut tha fug up about the shit. Or at least realize that Jews aren't the > only ones to ever suffer. Dammit, the Holocaust was a fucking atrocity > that we must *never* forget, but let's move the fuck on people! And yes! something that bugs me a lot is when you see black people on tv that say things like "400 years of oppression!"...as if it's the fault of anyone who's living today! Obviously they still have a tremendous disadvantage in society, but the fact that their "kind" endured discrimination for so long precludes any possibility that it or its effects will disappear IMMEDIATELY. To quote Glenn: "everyone has been a slave at one point." The Hebrews, Greeks...the economy of the Roman empire, especially during the period of the Dominate, was based on slave labour! All I know is this: I didn't enslave anyone, I didn't persecute or discriminate against anyone, and I don't hold the belief that others are inferior to me (well, at least not for reasons of ancestry or skin colour!) I do have to admit though, that as a religion, (Judaism is NOT A RACE, not even in the warped, unscientific sense that people commonly say "blacks, whites, orientals"), even WITHOUT the Holocaust, the Jews have probably suffered more persecution than ANY othet single group. > OK, I'm off the soapbox... likewise. (well, hey, at least give me credit for trying to relate what I said to Danzig's opinions and upcoming album). > If any of y'all are interested in topics like the ones just ranted > over, please check out the Op Man. Contact CG for details. I think that > is probably a bit more of an appropriate forum than the Misfits Bible. aye, verily. (but it *was* started here) For me, I think I've said all I needed to say about all this. (of course that's what I thought about my first post on this topic...) -brett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:44:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Asselin Subject: Re: Nazis and other boring things... >From: Brett Fama >joking? The Germans were all over the Russians until the USA intervened to >open up a second front. Germany was fighting the USA, Canada, the rest of >the British Commonwealth, and virtually all of Europe; the USSR was fighting >only Germany (well I guess Italy too) and LOSING QUITE BADLY for most of the >war. What the hell are you talking about? Those sweet-rock blonde-haired girlies were fighting pretty hard in their fashionable brown shorts and tee-shirts, while the Russians sat in their holes and laughed, swilling cheap vodka and waiting for the snow, dreaming of snowballs and frozen Aryan youth... Oh, let's add some ObMisfits: Has the first pressing of Collection II sold out, and are there plans for a different cover for the next pressing? - Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:19:58 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: Weird fuggin' dreams Alright Fiends, This is real odd, but don't get your hopes up, perverts: Does anyone else have weird dreams about Glenn? Settle down, not those kind of dreams... I always (at least a couple of times a month) have weird dreams about Glennard. The latest one was him busting through my unlocked door of my place all wet from rain and yelling at me that, "If you don't stop mimmicking me, I'll rip off your fuckin' head!" I had a pencil in my hand and was about to bury it in the artery behind the clavicle, but when I realized it was Glenn, became more interested in what he was SO pissed about, rather than my personal safety. Also, there was this huge guy standing behind him with his arms crossed, just standing in the rain. (Doyle?) Anyway, I have no idea what the fug Glenn meant by his threat, but "Mother" was playing on my radio in my dream as I went to see what the ruckus ("Can you describe the ruckus, sir?") at my front door was. There's my little story. Audi, Ben(ito) FMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJ "Your days of finger-banging ol' Mary Jane Rottencrotch through her pretty pink panties are over!!" -D.I. FMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJFMJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:17:36 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #194 Hey there fiends, Just some deep thoughts here from D-Rod. I wonder what is so special about the misfits? I mean what is the driving force behind the timelessness and adoration of their music? Maybe some of you will relate and some of you wont, but I know that in my case it is. I mean when ever I go to a record store I immediately go straight to the Misfits section, and I know I have everything. Maybe I will find some secret CD that was a surprise release or somthing! Every once in a while somthing breaks into the regular play, but only lasts for a day or two. But what always endures is The Misfits. I dont think I could ever get sick of them. Even the new stuff I am crazy about, and when the 45 comes out it will be on a loop playwise Im sure. But I cant get enough, I have never been like this with any other band! Sure a little rollins, Samhain, Danzig and fugazi slip in for about 2 days but I always go back. It is like this evil addictive drug that I cant get off. Are any of you like this? What do you guys think it is? Of course it is the music, but what makes it so much more special than any thing else? Maybe the image, the collectables, the lyrics, or maybe it is because the band is so good to us? I dont know what it is maybe it is just that there is so much to the whole Misfits family. The different albums and sounds. The undead, Samhain I mean not just to use Glenn references but there is so much related to the Misfits which to me just makes this whole thing fun. Also I have recently watched about all the boot videos of the Misfits with Glenn and Michale, now I dont see how Michale has ripped off Glenn, they both have different Moves and after seeing Michale live 3 times I say he has more moves then Glenn, so track these down and take a look youll see. Also the show for the 27th of june is at Hammerjacks in Baltiomre MD, I know I have my ticvkets which I bought about 3 days ago! So dont get on that bus or book a hotel. later D-Rod ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:26:02 -0400 From: "::datskat::" Subject: THE BIG PHAT TOUR if anyone is planning on taping this show in Pontiac, Michigan (Clutch, Misfits, Anthrax, etc) PLEASE CONTACT ME. Next to the 'fits, Clutch is my all time favorite band, and i would kill to be in michigan. IF YOU"RE TAPING THIS SHOW, PLEASE CONTACT ME. contact me if you have ANY clutch live as well. a fiend in need is a fiend indeed. doug *************************************************************************** @ "punk ain't no religeous cult, punk means thinking for yourself @ @ @ you ain't hardcore 'cause you spike your hair @@ @ @ when a jock still lives inside your head." @ @@@ @ @ mail me your thoughts on corndogs, Ron Jeremy, or the wonderful @ @@@ mullet hairstyle. @@ @ @ @ @ @ "I drank what?" - Socrates @ *************************************************************************** check out d's list o' shows at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3027/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:16:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: I have Only Eyes For You hey you! yeah you! yr denmudda here...saw the MisFits last nacht at the obscene Embassy disco here in Orlando. I cannot hate Anthrax mainly becuz they covered the anti-cool Joe Jackson's song "Time". So kudos to them for that one. okay heres my review. I thought the Misfits were a good band. No bad songs, lots of good ones. I liked the painted Dixie cups all over the drumset. The only similarity to Glenn physically the Michale seemed to have, at least to my very naked eye, was his butt. He has the same butt as Glenn--at least the same butt Glenn had in 1979. He sticks his chin out like Glenn but (not butt) I think that has to do with the devilock tickling his mouth otherwise. He's a pretty good singer and they all looked real good. Paul sure got to be a big boy, didnt he!? he sure is sportin' the bod. (dont get mad, Pumpkin, you know i dig you the most, baby) I had not seen him since he was a little tiny kid and ooh baby! I thought Jerry looked every bit as adorable as he did 15 yrs later, he obviously takes good care of himself. And to those bonehaids who saY he looks old and fat, hmmmm. He didnt look either to me. Perhaps you prefer the pimply emaciated look worn by Oasis and Blur and all those vegetable named bands. He's a jock. He looks like one. Nothin wrong with that. I heard the vocals fine. I did not think they were too loud. the security goons need to be sodomized by large hardened convicts in my opinion, they exemplified all that made me love punk in the first place (e.g., hatred of bullies). They seemed to get quite a charge out of manhandling the kids who crowd surfed and seemed befuddled when Jerry and Michale followed suit. I hope all security personnel die in pots of puking stink. Many amusing moments were had. The first had to be Jerry holding my little tiny sons hand as he showed us around that afternoon. He is a good daddy. Gigantor (the boy formerly known as El Miha) was mightily impressed and begged me to let him come to the show when Jerry informed him he too was on the guest/pest list. I thought it was funny that Jerry thought a 7 yr old would be up at midnight to see the auditory appoximation of a train wreck seasoned with many sweaty drunk people who smoked and swore. Of course Gigantor's mean old mommy said no. Jerry seemed disappointed and even asked after the show about the lad. I also was entertained by a diverse group from Tampa--hi, Krystie--who all wore Jerry Only eye makeup. It was funny to see a short hefty girl (with a devilock, BTW), a tall dreamy longhaired ethnic looking boy, and a biker-type standing sidebyside with Only eyes. Wish i had my camera with me. An Asian guy was front and center too, I mean a REAL Asian, with button down collar and pocket protector, Sta-Prest slacks, the whole thing--YELLING along with every song, a REAL fan! very cool. well, little things mean a lot. I had a good time, and Jerry you were right. I havent changed at all. love to all..... hugs to my companions from Gainesville -- Alan, Monica, Josh, Good Mike, and of course my esteemed email correspondent, John Greenwell. Dont let the bed bugs bite. Thanks for the thankyous! p r h !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " she can show you what you must do, to be more like people better than you... " Denmother Patricia Ragan Hoehner Fiendtroop #138 nrwidow@magicnet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/OM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:02:42 +0200 Subject: jesus ...im sorry tammy, im not starting anything with this... im not very religous myself... But. My dad had told me a part of the bible before...the Romans were refusing to kill jesus cause they thought he did nothing wrong.. the Jews said "Let his blood be on our hands, and our children's hands..." ...or something like that. Just what i heard. i end here. -greg ------------------------------ From: JimBison@aol.com Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:17:48 -0400 Subject: munk hey kids- All this genre feces has got to stop. You can't define concepts like "punk" or "metal" in 25 words or less. For that matter, I can't figure out why anybody would want to. Much of the best music is the stuff that bends the lines of genres and defies classification. Look at the Velvet Underground - they're not quite rock, and the word "punk" hadn't even been applied to music yet. Look at Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation" - it's not quite punk, not quite rock, but frigging great in my opinion. Look at the Misfits - ever wonder why so many people argue about whether they're punk or metal? Because they are NEITHER! As Sartre would say, the music of the Misfits exists, it is real, we can hear it and verify it. But it cannot BE "punk" or "metal" because these are just words, they don't exist anywhere except in our collective consciousnesses and even there they don't exist very clearly. Hell, one time I was telling my friend how I thought the Bad Brains' first album was some of the best punk rock ever, and he asked me what made it punk rock - the songs are pretty complex, and they're pretty good at playing their instruments, and they don't have that Jonathan Swift approach to lyrics; yet it seems to come from a different angle than hardcore, more soulful than calculated. But the bottom line is that when I listen to it, I can cut past the superficial and hear the eternal, universal spirit of fast, kickass rock and roll and it makes me want to fuck shit up. That's what I love about punk rock. And really good metal can make me feel the same way, though it gets there from a different starting point. Saying that a whole genre of music is worthless is just plain stupid. It's equivalent to saying that the Spanish language sucks, that you can't say anything worthwhile in Spanish and everybody should just speak English (only without the political implications). If you think punk rock sucks, pick up that Bad Brains album I mention every week or so. If you think metal sucks, pick up "Sacrifist" by Praxis... (Sounds like Slayer mixed with dub, and Bootsie Collins is in the band!). Hey, sorry this is long, but I did mention the misfits and I don't post that often and hey fuck you you have a space bar anyway. aon-1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:35:59 -0500 From: Jerry Subject: Mil. Metalfest Hey Fiends.. we definately should figure out a place for Bible fiends to meet before or at the show.. Umm... I don't know shit about Milwaukee though, so someone else will have to figure out a place. But it would be cool to meet some of you. |20Eyes| ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 08:26:34 -0400 Subject: San Diego While it doesn't advertise that Glenn will be at the San Diego Comicon, it does say that Verotik will be there and gives no mention of Glenn. And in the latest issues, in an ad for the Comicon that announced what Verotik guests would be there, they didn't say that Glenn would be there either. But I'm assuming (yes, I know what happens when you assume things ...) that Glenn is not a guest of Verotik but IS Verotik along with his editors, technicians, etc. and wouldn't be advertised as a guest. A reason why they don't advertise him as a "special guest" in the Comicon brochure is that perhaps they don't think he's as big a name in the comic industry as Todd McFarlane or Jim Lee. I'm going anyway so I guess I'll see for myself in a week and a half. I'll be sure to post about it when I get back. Dave McKean is scheduled to be there. He's the artist who did the illustration for the Boxed Set booklet. So anyone who's planning on going to the show and has the boxed set, bring the booklet so you too can get it signed ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: Samhain680@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:54:48 -0400 Subject: They ARE back! For a long time now, a debate has raged among the fiends contributing to the Bible as to whether the newly reformed Misfits would destroy what was best left a pleasant memory or if they could pull off the seemingly impossible task of not doing just that despite various obstacles (a.k.a.... the absence of Glenn, the passage of more than a decade, the hell and hassles of court battles, ....etc.). I have been quietly looming in the shadows, content to just read the Bible, since about issue #80 (just more than a year now). Since finding out about this information and opinion source, I have tried very hard not to pass judgement on their return and what will be the result. Unfortunately, I am not among the select (and lucky) few who regularly get to talk to the band and who fairly regularly contribute to this list. And having only been listening to the Misfits since about 1886-1987, I never had the opportunity to see the 'fits live and in person. That finally changed for me last night. I finally got to see Jerry, Doyle, and crew in action at the Atlanta show. I now feel that I am capable of rationally passing judgement on the debate for myself. I will be the first to admit that they are not the same band they used to be (at least not quite). They do have several new members and Jerry and Doyle are much older now. But....(correct me if I'm wrong) the Misfits were always about: energy, simple but fun music, and crowd involvement. The whole point was that it just happened to be them on the stage with the instruments rather than anyone from the crowd. Everyone was there to just have fun. The fans were there to let off some steam and to enjoy themselves. The band was there to play some cool music for the crowd and all they wanted was to just play. Well, the energy is there, the music is the same, and the crowd was definitely involved in the show. With a few exceptions, I would venture that everyone there had a good time and was able to vent some steam. Finally, and to quote Jerry from one point during the show, "All we want to do is just play". They are the Misfits of old, just a little older. You couldn't see CHUD behind the drum set, but you knew he was there somewhere. And Michael Graves is truly a 'fit. He was rowdy and sang to the crowd, often from the midst of them. He climbed to the top of an amp stack (to the ceiling of the building) and dove into the crowd from there, much to the dismay of the roadies who could do little to stop him. Several fights broke out involving Michael and someone from the crowd. Michael came out of each of them unscathed and still singing. I'm sure someone else who was there will give a blow by blow account of the evening's events, including the fights, so I won't bother. The topper to the evening, however, was after the show was over. Jerry cruised the crowd to pose for some pictures, sign some autographs, and give hugs and kisses to the women. For oh so brief a moment, I finally got a chance to meet THE Jerry: face to face. My judgement is complete now, the Misfits are not only back, they are as AWESOME AS EVER. Those of you who are still withholding judgement or are unsure, let me assure you....they rule! Go see them first chance you get. I know I WILL be back next chance I get. Thanks to the 'fits for a great show. Thanks to the band for staying true to what the band has always been about. Michael Graves rules!!!! See you again soon, I hope. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:19:27 -0400 From: Chris Hatcher Subject: Birthdays June 23rd: Happy Birthday to me Happy Birthday dear me Happy Birthday to me I'm 25 today, a quarter of a century. God I feel old. Oh yeah, Happy Birthday to Glenn also. He's 41. I had one hellofa bday present last night. I got to see the Misfits in Atlanta (it was after midnight, so it counts as my birthday dammit!). I'll give the details of the show later, hopefully in this issue if I have time. LordB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:12:56 -0400 (EDT) From: John Greenwell Subject: Orlando I'm not going to review the show because denmother already did but what i want to say is that denmother is one of the coolest people i have ever met. she was so nice to me and all my annoying geekey friends and treated us like she had known us for years supercool!!! john ps. denmom- sorry about the barrage of questions but we all had things we wanted to learn, you're so cool pps. if anyone has vids of the misfits with michale, i would be more thanwilling to strike up a deal ------------------------------ From: X20EYES@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:56:59 -0400 Subject: Atlanta Show Greetings Fiends!! Went to the Atlanta show last night. I was impressed. They WERE the Misfits! Graves did a really good job except for letting the crowd sing too much... He also dove off the stack of mains on the side of the stage... From reading previous posts, they seem to be building a reputation of beating people up at there shows and last night was no exception. I held on to the stage for the entire show and was in awe at the "fortress" of drums. The sound was good but the vocals were not loud enough. The started with "Halloween" and, unlike the old days, Doyle only stoped to retune once. They did a few new tunes and some Earth A.D. tunes along with many other favorites. The other bands- Cannibal Corpse... They were good if you like Death Metal... I don't. Anthrax... I liked them better this time than the last time I saw them... Some dumb ass threw a bottle and hit Scott so they stopped their show short... He was so pissed off that he pick up a bottle and slung it through his Marshal amp... All in all a good show!!! If the Misfits ever read these posts, to them I say " KEEP IT UP!!!!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 16:38:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: Happy Birthday Unca Glenny! yup happy b-day, Glenn, I know you're out there somewhere! hmmm, fave Glenzig moment? would have to be one of the monster Risk games played at the Punk Mag office in early 1980...i remember stumbling off to the bathroom and hearing Glenn call after me "Don't get any funny ideas about Europe or Russia, now!" This advice I have continued to heed throughout my life. have a good one Glenn..... love from your old buddy, patricia ragamuffin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " she can show you what you must do, to be more like people better than you... " Denmother Patricia Ragan Hoehner Fiendtroop #138 nrwidow@magicnet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 96 22:26 EDT From: Twitch Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #194 Are the Misfits playing in Indianapolis on July 27? The page has this date listed, and I had planned to go, but it seems they are playing at the Milwaukee Metalfest instead. Does anyone know if they will be playing in Indy this summer? ------------------------------ From: "Thomas A. Bailey" Subject: Cleveland Show Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 23:53:44 -0400 (EDT) Just heard the other day that a "metalfest" of some sort is slated for the Cleveland Agora on August2-4. They're calling it the "World Series of Metal" and on the bill for August 4, The Misfits, Life of Agony, Cannibal Corpse, and Anthrax. Tix are only $15. Bands for the other nights should be announced soon. Tom Bailey tab@neoucom.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:42:55 -0400 (EDT) From: John Greenwell Subject: 138 i don't know if its been posted yet, but i talked with denmother and she told me i should post the meaning of 138 after she clued me in on the numerology thing i did some follow-up 1- strike out alone, leadership, originality, organizing, independence 3- creative, artistic, practical, organized, hardworking, discipline 8- power, authority(giving and recieving), needing to unify hope that clears things up a bit john g. Happr B-day Glenn ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:52:09 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: Times Square Well, well, well... While the Denmom was in Florida gallivanting with Misfits, I was in NYC at a great show. Friday night I decided to lend my muscles to Times Square, what a big mouth I got! I forgot how heavy a Marshall cabinet gets when carried up 5 flights of steps on a humid night. Let's see, hmmmm... Times Square is fronted by Jill Matthews. Don't let her cutesy appearance fool you guys, I'm sure she could put any one of us on our ass. Jill, other than being a great guitarist/vocalist, is also the first woman to ever win boxing's Golden Gloves Award, I wouldn't fuck with her. She also knows how to behave around guys and our fragile egos (Jill let me beat her in a one armed pullup contest after the show.) Then we move on to Dave Ari on drums. What can I say? Dave has been around for little while, he's tight and he knows what the hell he's doing. Prior bands for Dave include the Devildogs and Sylvain Sylvain & the Ugly Americans. Dave doesn't have that typical "Punk as Fuck" attitude, he likes to smile and kid around, he loves what he's doing it's obvious. I'm very surprised that he hasn't been snatched up by a larger, more well known band. As a quick aside I'd like to say that *nobody* should even think about saying that "nobody wants to play with Bobby" someone posted that recently. That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard. Dave Ari is a great drummer and it's the tight rhythm that he & bobby create that makes this band. Dave has played with bands and people *MUCH* bigger than the Misfits ever dreamed of being. Bobby might have been an asshole 14 years ago, in his own words: "...Misfits' one time guitar hero and token drugbag fuck-up..." Let me tell you something Bobby's no fuck-up these days. I walked into his apartment 4 hours before the band was supposed to go on and offered him a beer. Did Bobby pop the top and slurp it down? Fuck NO! his words to me were "I never drink before a show." That leaves us with your favorite gimp and mine, the poster child for retro-active birth control, the 9 toed wonder....Bobby Steele. I need not type up Bobby's accomplishments for this forum, he's more than happy to float his own boat! hehehe just kidding, after hanging out with Bobby two times in as many weeks I have to agree with Patricia when she says, "he's damn good company." Last time I wrote about Bobby it was about him getting called Keith Richards on the street. Well this time Bobby admitted to me that someone thought he was Steve Stevens! Onto the show. The Pyramid is a typical lower east side dump. Too small, too many hard surfaces etc... No soundman to control the mix, you know the scene. About the only nice thing I can say about the Pyramid is that they have the cleanest bathroom I've ever seen in a club. Typical small club confusion & lack of professionalism, ie: the 8pm band was still playing when the 11pm band was supposed to play. Times Square was supposed to take the stage at 12:30 I think 2am was more like it. The opening bands were Squealer & Freak Beam. Squealer was great, the guitarist/vocalist Mick Roth plays bass on the Times Square demo tape. Freak Beam, well what can I say, they sucked the shit outta dead rats. Finally Times Square gets to play, I wish I could list off what they played and shit but it was very difficult, with the beer & PA system. I know they played 7 songs of the demo, they are: Learn it Ain't gonna try Don't waste time 42nd Street Devil in Disguise Take me back Headshrinker and of course the show closer: Yummy Yummy Yummy!! it was on the cover of Yummy that the band really shined. Times Square's sound lends itself perfect to that punky power-pop sound. All in all, I'm not really familiar with the band's original tunes to recognize them yet, of course when they played my personal favorites, Learn it & Headshrinker, I did notice them, those tunes were really done well live. I'll probably catch hell for this but I think Bobby makes a better bass player than a guitar player. But hey that's how I see it. I personally never really liked the Undead, other than a few select tunes. I always thought bobby was a good guitar player, but a a bassist, WOW! Bobby & Dave mesh so well together they sound as if they'd been playing together since they were kids. A tight rhythm section is *essential* to any band and Times Square has it all in that department. I've helped out *many* bands before, including rock legend Buddy Miles, but never was I treated with the kind of respect that I was when I helped out Bobby, Dave & Jill. These guys are the best, they knew I traveled a decent clip and would get *no* sleep that night, and the fact that I had to work all day the next day. I think Jill caught me buying a beer once and yelled at me, she bought my brews for me all night. After the show Bobby gave me a free cd of Dawn of the Undead, (I'm sure that killed him!) and Dave & Jill gave me a ride back to my car at the Port Authority. When you're helping out a band for free it's little things like that that make the difference. All in all it's worth the cover charge to see this band. If you live in NY, NJ, Western Ct, or PA and call yourself a fiend you really should get to one of their shows. The Next show is at The Pyramid on July 19, then I believe they play in Philadelphia. The Pyramid is located at 101 Ave A that's between 6th & 7th, lower east side of Manhattan. Times Square demo tapes are available for $5.00 + postage at: Post Mortem Records P.O. Box 358 New Milford, NJ 07646 USA Contact Bobby for more details thanks for listening to this infomercial - heheh I know it sounds like that but hey THese guys are fucking good and you should give them a chance! >From the Trailer Court of the Crimson King....... ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ "...you're a sweet thing good enough to eat thing and that's just what I'm gonna do...." The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ Operator's Manual http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 22:40:47 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: And in the lead... Hello Fiends: ***FIRST OF ALL TO GLENN IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE BIBLE, HAPPY LATE BIRTHDAY*** I know all of you were waiting for who won the vote but we have to extend till Wednesday. Why you ask, well for one we got some miss placed art from the mail on Friday and to be fair we will have a couple more days. So now to point out a simple little problem i have. ***WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE, I GAVE YOU FIVE DAYS TO VOTE AND ONLY 31 PEOPLE COULD VOTE!!! SHIT I GOT MORE RESPONSE WITH THE GET TO KNOW YOU STUFF. NOW IF YOU WANT YOUR VERY OWN T-SHIRT THAT NOT EVEN FIEND CLUB MEMBERS WILL GET THEN YOU HAVE TO PICK UP YOU LAZY GOOD FOR NOTHING ASSES AND GET OVER TO A COMPUTER. GOT IT, SHIT MARK ALREADY VOTED. LET'S GET OUR CRAP TOGETHER HERE. YOU HAVE TILL TUESDAY AT 11PM AND THAT IS IT. ALSO IF I HERE ONE, "WELL I DON'T LIKE THE DESIGN ON THE T-SHIRT," FROM SOME ASSHOLE WHO DIDN'T VOTE, I'M GOING TO SEND SOMEOME TO RIP YOUR FUCKING HEAD OFF AND CRAP DOWN IT!!!*** AGAIN THIS IS WHAT YOU DO: its that time for all you wonderful Bible Members to do the right thing and vote for your fave design for the front of our own Bible Members T-shirt. This is how it goes: 1) Go to the Misfits Web Page 2) Go into the News section, and find the one titled Misfits Bible T-shirts 3) Look at each image 4) Pick the one you want to be on the front of the t-shirt 5) Send an e-mail to (me) tes777@bridge.net saying which design (by name of Artist) you like. 6) You have till this TUESDAY June 25TH. at 11PM to do this. 7) WEDNESDAY's Bible will have the post of who's design will grace the front of our t-shirt. 8) The rest is up to Jerry and Mark. 9) You will be kept informed of all details up until the t-shirt is ready to ship. 10) Nice, but you have to vote if you want the best piece of art on your t-shirt. so let's get the votes pouring in and no more lazy crap from you fiends, and to think i told Jerry that you guys were really into this shirt thing. He was happy to hear all was going well with it. SO LET GO GET THIS DONE WITH!?! later TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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THANKS (HALLOWEEN KIDS) & T-SHIRT VOTING I dream of Glennie Novice Fan the bible dystrophy fiendathon Jerry Update Here we go again... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:40:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Fama Subject: Verotik/San Diego Con according the EV's hotline, Glenn WILL appear at the Verotik booth on "on or two" of the three days of the San Diego Comic Convention (July 5-7). On the last message he said that he just talked to Glenn, and since there was no word about Danzig V or any July Danzig tour, I guess the rumours are false (surprise). Eerie's "Uneasy Listening" is due July 2.... EV's also got a new Bighouse song on the hotline called "Poor Boy" which sounds pretty cool. -Brett Squa Tront...Spa Fon ------------------------------ From: She Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #195 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:08:13 -0400 (EDT) > From: Dave Naked > Hey fiends---this is my first post...so dont be to brutal: > 1. on the Kryst the Conquerer ep there is a song called "Dr. Phibes > rises again". Im not sure if phibes is a cult hero or what not, but > there is another song from an old NWOBHM band called ANGEL > WITCH... Dr. Phibes is some horror movie guy, just like all the other stuff The Misfits sing about. > there song is simply titled "Dr. Phibes" and appeares on the > long out of print LOSER ep. This may be of interest because jerry may > use "Dr. phibes..." as a MiSFiT track. BTW: if anyone here has a KRYST > ep for sale (pref. cd)...i am very interested... By the way, "Dr Phibes" is not available on the EP - the full length album that includes that song has never been released. > 3. Mark: I know you know "nothing else" (other than what you posted > about blacklight, but i may not be able to get to a MiSFiTs show over > the summer....so will it be available to bible members??? or will you > post some exerts on the web page?? The single won't even be available this summer, but I will have lots of info on it around the time that it's released. Apparently they successfully recorded a few songs but weren't pleased with the way it sounded. > From: "Jay P." > By the way, Who is this Mike Graves guy?? Where did the misfits > find him. Does anybody have any info on him. Sorry if this has been > discussed before. Michale is a NJ guy who heard about the Misfits auditions from his friend Bob Alleca. He had never actually heard The Misfits, but decided to audition after going out and buying the first Collection CD. He didn't like their music at all at first, but it grew on him and you see where it got him. Previous to the Misfits he hadn't been in any major bands, although one of his bands did open for the Undead a few years ago., > From pmack@shore.net > Has the first pressing of Collection II sold out, and are there plans for a > different cover for the next pressing? I don't think the cover will be changed, but the colored vinyl press is pretty much gone, and has been replaced with a black vinyl pressing, as of early May. > From: Twitch > Are the Misfits playing in Indianapolis on July 27? The page has this date > listed, and I had planned to go, but it seems they are playing at the > Milwaukee Metalfest instead. Does anyone know if they will be playing in > Indy this summer? According to the info I've gotten, they'll be in Indianaplois on July 27 and in Milwaukee doing the Metal (??) thing, which lasts for 2 days, on the 26th. > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:42:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: John Greenwell > Subject: 138 > > i don't know if its been posted yet, but i talked with denmother and she > told me i should post the meaning of 138 > after she clued me in on the numerology thing i did some follow-up > 1- strike out alone, leadership, originality, organizing, independence > 3- creative, artistic, practical, organized, hardworking, discipline > 8- power, authority(giving and recieving), needing to unify > > hope that clears things up a bit Actually this doesn't clear things up at all. Jerry has stated that the song was based on the concept of having a number instead of a name, a science fiction idea stolen from George Lucas's THX-1138 movie from the 1970's. He's said this several times, and the lyrics (with references to androids, etc) support this. mark ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:16:34 -0400 Subject: Nazism / Gravity / Rip-offs Hey, You know everyone talks about how bad the Nazis are. But, how about gravity? Countless lamps have been broken due to this. How many old people have tripped and fallen? How many times have you had bird shit fall on your car? Forget Nazis....DOWN WITH GRAVITY! Perhaps we can start talking about the Misfits related topics again. Now, I have "Load" and I really don't see the rip off in "Thorn Within." If you want to hear a rip off.....listen to "retreat and descent" on Black Aria. Now, go pick up Gustav Mahler's first symphony..."Titan." Pop it in, and listen to the very beginning of the first movement. "r and d" is just dumbed down version. I'll bet the reason why I haven't seen Glenn mention the fact that he likes Mahler is because he's afraid people will recogize this. How about the blatant rip off of the "Zero the Hero" riff in "Her Black Wings." And for some very odd reason I can hear a 60s song that goes "I want your love, I need your love" in the tune of "Skulls" but I have yet to find out if this exists or if I just dreamt it. Chris ------------------------------ Subject: your mom Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 14:44:35 EDT From: Blood Feast Paging Laura Pleasants....Laura Pleasants, please email me. s0bswhit@cabell.vcu.edu thanks, bloodfeest ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.com Date: 24 Jun 1996 11:12:48 EDT Subject: Mommy... In Mommy Can I....Glenn says "Killed a girl on lovers lane...", while watching Reel Wild Cinema, I saw part of Ed Woods "Female", Anyways, it shows some Newspapers, and one of them sayssomething like, "Man and Woman mugged on Lovers Lane." thought I'd let you know chris ------------------------------ From: "Dean, Mike SrA (20CS/SCSNT)" Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 14:55:00 PDT I think the misfits should headline the alternative nation tour!!!!!!!!!with someone like green day or no doubt............... ------------------------------ From: Spydyr77@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:18:01 -0400 Subject: Times Square CG: All the time we spent together at the Times Square show and I don't even get a mention ?? I guess my 15 minutes are over already..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:14:33 -0400 From: "::datskat::" Subject: 8/3 Capital Ballroom. DC i'm going to see Jerry and the kids in DC 8/3. i really want to tape the show (video), but i'm not sure how to get the "o.k." to do this? is there anyone it has to be cleared with? every show i've been to (except fugazi) no cameras were allowed, but through this list, i've gotten the impression that the guys don't mind taping, as long as you're not some money grubber trying to sell the tapes. i thought i'd go to the show early and hang out in front, since the guys usually chit chat a bit with the local fiends, and ask one of them if it's cool to tape the show. if this is a totally absurd idea, someone tell me. if anyone knows how to go about videotaping the show (without pissing anybody off, especially the 'fits) let me know. i know i got the ok to tape another band by contacting their management. if anyone could steer me in the right direction, i'd really appreciate it. drop me a line at: fisherd@cvn.net see you at the show, boys and ghouls. datskat *************************************************************************** @ "punk ain't no religeous cult, punk means thinking for yourself @ @ @ you ain't hardcore 'cause you spike your hair @@ @ @ when a jock still lives inside your head." @ @@@ @ @ mail me your thoughts on corndogs, Ron Jeremy, or the wonderful @ @@@ mullet hairstyle. @@ @ @ @ @ @ "I drank what?" - Socrates @ *************************************************************************** check out d's list o' shows at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3027/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:01:26 -0400 (EDT) From: CANIS Subject: Raleigh Show Misfits / Anthrax / Cannibal Corpse @ Players in Raleigh, NC 6/23/96 First of all the show was moved from the several thousand person Ritz to some hole in the wall called Players. This, according to the promoter, was due to the fact that only 85 tickets were pre-sold. Cannibal Corpse tore shit up, as did Anthrax. The Fits were tight as ever, but it seemed like I was watching a tribute band. Graves doesn't have the evil or the attitude that makes the music come alive. Combined with his lack of stage presence and the fact that he forgot the first verse to Teenagers from Mars, it just felt like a cover band. Jerry was fine and happy as everyone else has described him. Doyle was defintitely Doyle. And I will agree with the "metalizing" theory on all of the Static Age material. They did Theme for a Jackyl and if Graves can sing it that good, you couldn't hear it due to Doyle playing the piano parts on the guitar. Another thing that I'm surprised that no one has mentioned yet, Graves has those sad puppy dog eyes that really detract from his credibility when he's singing something like Death Comes Ripping. I know that there is nothing he can do about it, but there's just very little intensity there. Like I said, the music was great. Chud was just as good as any other drummer the Fits have had, and Jerry and Doyle were both on target. To tell you the truth, the crowd could have carried the vocals for the first part of the show. As for me, Doyle's armband bounced out of my hand and then I had to drive two and a half hours home in fog as thick as runny dog shit while I was soaking wet and stinking like an ashtray. Would I do it again? You bet. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 00:33:47 -0400 (EST) From: Tyler Buckmaster Subject: stuff Ok...minor misfits sighting... I was watching Bio - Dome (you know the new Pauly Shore MOvie..) and one of the main characters is named Doyle...Just trying to pictures the REAL Doyle goofing around with Pauly...heh.. Another thing...I was talking to this guy and we were naming bands that we liked.. I mentioned Danzig and he freaked! 'Don't you know that that band is a bunch of satanists and nazis?I saw a movie that had them and the singer had a nazi flag draped over him and they were chanting Seig Heil, Praise Satan..' My astonished reply was with a grin when I asked him if I could get a copy of the tape..He kind of mumbled something and walked away..fuckin' putz.. Please settle this..I know that Legacy of Brutality is pronounced Leg-a-see but you would not believe HOW MANY people pronounce it Lee-ga-see..pisses me off.. CAiN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:57:54 +0200 (METDST) From: Franz Ardito Subject: Mr. Gennaro Anzalone >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:59:16 -0400 >From: Cj >Subject: longtime reader, first time bitcher... > >"Ardito" sounds like a pretty obvious Italian name; are you in denial or >something? what the hell does someone's talents have to do with ethnicity? I >truly hope yr joking and are not as ignorant as you seem to be... you're pretty smart, son: of course "Ardito" seems Italian: IT IS Italian and if you look closer at my e-mail address you'll find out that I'm mailing from Italy; being my post a sarcastic one, I just tried to point out the fact that mr. Danzig (like a lot of other people in the US) doesn't like to be associated with "us". And that bothers me because a lot of people have a stereotyped view of Italians (and I lived in the States for a year and a half, so I have a general idea of what people thinks over there): i bet that the 90% of you people never met an ACTUAL Italian in your life and you'll be amazed of how different we are from your thougths. I live in the north of Italy and I'm completely different from the sicilian type you know: no hair on my back, no dark skin, no fascist, no pizza. Anyways let's drop the topic from the bible or someone might be upset. If anyone is interested in discussing it, just leave private e-mail. bye franz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:20:08 -0700 From: Art Subject: MISFITS VIDEO I have a misfits bootleg video from a Santa Barbra show in 1982 or before I am looking to trade copys of my tape for a copy of any other live Misfits stuff. Anyone interested can E-Mail me for more info FANGBOY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:09:04 -0500 From: GJarmola Subject: Does anyone know... Hello fiends, I've been looking for the 'original' Misfit Crimson Ghost shirt for over three years now. I can't seem to find it anywhere. I from Chicago so if anyone knows where I could find it please contact me.Thanks. Sid ------------------------------ From: JediMas138@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:05:45 -0400 Subject: I Don't Care Twat You Think You Know What? I Lauged My Ass Off When You Posted That Shit About Me. I Don't Give A Flying Fuck What You Think. I Was Just Posting Something That I Thought Some People Would Enjoy, Is That OK With You? And From Now On, I'll Write In Caps, And I Don't Care If You Don't Like It. There, That Felt Better. Jedi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:07:39 PST Subject: Opinions are like assholes, HellHound has two From: "Jay P." HellHound here, Sorry if I'm a little behind today but I just got back from Toronto where I saw MetallicA (like you care). Anyway, in bible 192 Bobby wrote "...After awhile, certain clueless idiots (metalheads?) got the wrong idea..." When I read this I almost flipped. Could it be that perfect bobby who loves everyone just called an entire section of the population idiots based on the type of music they enjoy??? Sounds like discrimination to me. Hey Bob, why don't you go join the Skinheads. Just because I listen to Slayer, Metallica and others does not make me an idiot. This is akin to me saying "All gimps are homos that can't play guitar for shit". I really liked bobby before I read that post, but now I could care less for him and his 3 page long posts. On a related and happier note, the thing about Glenn and Germany/Nazis. Obviously Glenn's fixation with Germany is not a passing phase. He still goes by "Danzig" doesn't he?? I looked "Danzig" up once in the encyclopedia and it said that Danzig (sometimes Dansk) is a city/territory of or near Germany. It depends on what time frame you look at whether it is part of germany or not. I suppose I could look it up again if I wasn't so lazy. I hate long posts!! Sorry! HellHound "Bobby Steele's an asshole fucking cunt." - Glenn Danzig Teenagers From Mars (Bobby Steele Lyrics) ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:04:06 -0400 Subject: Misfits Videos Fiends, Many of you are asking me, and I've been trying to make this clear by every possible means. I am NO LONGER DOING VIDEOS. As soon as I find someone (and I'm coming close) who will be willing to do videos, I will begin to refer you to him, but I am NOT making them. Perhaps in the future I will, but due to problems with doing this, I have been forced to stop. Audio tapes, are not a problem, in fact I am more than happy to make them, as the post in the News says. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:30:28 -0400 (EDT) From: DAVID R VICKERS Subject: Re: Punk As Fuck How's is going? It's been a while since I've made a post because I've had nothing good to say. I still don't, but what the hell. CG: I would like to see a "Punk As Fuck"-o-meter with examples for ratings for one to ten. Since you seem to like to use the term so much, I feel it would only be appropriate. Ben Todd: Yeah, I had this weird dream where Glenn was travelling through computers (kind of like Horrace Pinker from "Shocker" did with TVs) and kicking the crap out of people making stupid posts... ...oh shit, I guess he's coming after me now! Dave V. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:30:19 -0400 From: Jaid Subject: Hartford Anyone???? Are any of you going to the show at the Webster Theater in Hartford ? I just grabbed a ticket myself and was wondering if anyone would like to meet up before the show. The person I was suppose to go with backed out yesterday( well chickened out would be closer to the truth...), so anyway I thought it would be fun to try and meet up with a few more Bible type fiends. E-mail me, and let me know. BTW, If there happen to be any fiends located in Alaska, I would like to hear from you. I have the chance to go spend some time up there around Fairbanks and Anchorage, but I would like to hear what it's like from a "fiendly" point of view before I go jumping on any planes. -Jaid This message was brought to you by Value Jet, the only airline where every seat is in the smoking section ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:00:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: different Bible stuff, and the Denmother FAQ is every one nice and sweaty yet? hope so, i love the smell of sweat in the morning.....smells like.....BEER. It is unbearable hot and humid here, I cant believe Jerry Only and Friends are touring at this time of the year, under all that leather and crap they must feel like unholy living dead by now. okay, I forgot some birthdays to holler out, because I have been busy having a life, but here goes: June 14: many happy reruns of the day, Bloodfeast, or Blood feets, Ben! June 15: delighted to, Jake Starr June 19: Happy B-day Horror Kid Eric! and of cuss June 23, the in the year of our Fiend, Happy B-day Lord B... one date I am currently commemorating with a little dignified screaming and shooting, RIP Charles Starkweather, you little red headed peckerwood. and oh yeah! Today, June 26, Happy Birth! Peter Lorre! you eeeeeediot! I still need calendar artwork and photos, it would seem that no one wants to get involved. Gosh I remember back in 197? there was this little band from Lodi, that no one wanted to know about or go see, and similarly now there is this little piddlyshit calendar that nobody wants to have shit to do with! well, I am gonna take my toys and go home, you little jerks. No no no, I will get the calendar out and when it is critically and artistically hailed far and wide as The Greatest, I can say I did it all myself! Nyah nyah. The above was sarcasm if you couldnt tell, kids. What I am trying to say is, it sometimes pays to get involved. okay right now the Denmother #1 FAQ: are the Misfits better now than original Mark I edition? My answer: no. Nor are they worse. They are completely different for a variety of reasons. (not the least of which is a different vocalist.) To all those who said, oooh Michale Graves is just a Glenzig clone, it aint true. Aside from similar coloring, and the fact they are both male, and have a similar butt (as i have mentioned before), they really are pretty different, stylistically and everything. Sure, Michale KIND OF sounds like Glenn, but Glenn KIND OF sounds like other people too, doesnt he? At least nobody says, hmmmph, that Jerry Only who is HE trying to be? And I think Doyle is pretty unique. I cant think of any other band who has Lurch crossed with a Chippendale for guitarist. So I would say, the Misfits have indeed remained static, that is, exactly AS THEY WERE. I think the other Denmother Nearwidow most FAQ answer is: NO! and so it goes. see ya later, freaks o' nature... PRH "....Homo Superior in my interior, but from the skin out I am Homo Sapien too..." - p. shelley Patricia Ragan Hoehner Denmother, Fiendtroop #138 Honeybunny on the Operators' Manual nrwidow@magicnet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:54:48 -0700 From: Richard Hinojos Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #195 From: Dave Naked Subject: Hey fiends---this is my first post...so dont be to brutal: 1. on the Kryst the Conquerer ep there is a song called "Dr. Phibes rises again". Im not sure if phibes is a cult hero or what not, but the incredible (amazing? fantastic?) dr.phibes was/is an old horror movie, i do believe. i'll check my bro's vaults... blah ------------------------------ From: "Roger Holmes" Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:17:41 GMT-4 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #193 To Dick Tate Just for the record I was quoting that guys spelling of the name. Hope that clears things up. To everyone else Does anyone know if Glenn or Bobby have secretley taken in a new fits show? I think it would be interesting to hear their opinions. And everyone should check out that Lucane comic mark mentioned. I bought it this week and it has some cool pics and a good interview with Jerry in which he explains the whole thing about Bobby ripping off the Undead name. It's cool. ------------------------------ From: Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 19:05:21 EDT Subject: Got 2 Extra Tix for NY... I have 2 extra tix for the show on Friday at Roseland. If interested, email direct at Romual_Piecyk@notes.pw.com, or preferrably just CALL ME!!! (212) 596-8638. Desperately want to get rid of them for monetarial purposes... DeViLoCkXXX ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:11:13, -0500 Subject: I feel the same way... D-Rod...I understand exactly what you said in your last post. I feel the same, from checking the Misfits section every time I am in a record store, all the way down to not being able to listen to other bands for long periods of time. Right on brother. Crimson Ghost...I am the guy who made the comment about Bobby Steele. I believe my exact comment was, "What's a matter? No one wants to play wif you? Boo Hoo." In saying this I was utilizing sarcasm as a means to show how Bobby is acting like a jealous child through his comments on the Misfits. I, unlike you, am not a fan of Bobby and do not care who he plays with or who wants to play with him. My comment had nothing to do with Bobby's musical resume. Let me end with a word of advice for you Crimson Ghost: Before jumping into a discussion (one in which no way involved you) in order to ego stroke another person you find amazing, don't assume anything until you ask the person who made the comments and WAS involved in said discussion. Thanks for your time. Yeah anyway..... Devil's Rain ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:23:04 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: THANKS (HALLOWEEN KIDS) & T-SHIRT VOTING Hey Fiends!!!!!!!! Wussup?! First I want to thank all the fiends who responded to my request for help on my speech on the history of Halloween (Samhain). You guys rock!!! I got an A on my speech and my teacher specifically congratulated me on it. Pretty dope. SO, thanks to: Mark Julie Hong Spydyr77 Zodiac Francine Couldn't have done it without cha. Gratzi. ALSO, in all their generosity and patience, Mark and Tammy have extended the voting deadlines for T-shirt voting until Thursday night or Friday or something. SO, check the shit out. I mean, you don't have to, but then you can't bitch about the design when it's chosen, OK? Anyway, there are some REALLY cool designs up already, and some new stuff should be in by tomorrow (Wednesday). Mine has my idea of the CG in front of the computer with "Misfits" in purple above. Check it out on the 'Fits page under NEWS and lemme know what you think. Tammy and Mark-- You guys kick ass. Later, Mr. Toad, formerly Ben(ito) Todd :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) Practice senseless kindness & random acts of brutality... :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:49:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Rebecca Simpson Pease Subject: I dream of Glennie hey Fiends, I, too have had the experience of dreaming about Glenn Danzig. The most recent took place in the tiny hick town where I am lucky enough to attend high school. In the dream, it had been rumored that Glenn's grandmother (Ethel Danzig or something...) lived in a house in some woods behind the school. So, I decided to skip out and devote an afternoon to finding the place. Well, after walking a while, I heard some very familiar music. It turned out that Danzig (the band) was recording there. I hid unobtrusively behind a tree and watched the band for a while. But old eagle-eyed Glenn spotted me and came outside. He seemed really upset and was yelling at me saying that I had disturbed him at his secret recording place. I tried to apologize, but in the middle of it all, he gulped some cheap beer and spit it out all over me! I was real put out at first, but I soon realized the magnitude of what had just happened. Not only had I found Glenn's grandmother's house / recording studio, but GLENN DANZIG had just spit beer (blended with his own spooky spit) on ME!!!!!!!!!!! I encourage you to share your Danzig or Misfits dreams (or nightmares?) as well. I find that kind of stuff a helluva lot more interesting than Nazis or genre definitions. IF ANYBODY KNOWS OF ANY MISFITS SHOWS IN THE WEST PLEASE POST!!!!!!!! *** In Spook City, USA, does he really say "Here I'm gonna capture you" like the box set book claims?? I have my doubts. YOURS GHOULIE from the pit of foul corruption, scabigail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:30:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael W. Dunn" Subject: Novice Fan Hello, I was listening to the Henry Rollins spoken word CD "Get In The Van" recently. He mentioned that he saw The Misfits, when Glenn was in the band, doing a sound check at a club that he and Black Flag were scheduled to play that very evening. HE marveled at the fact that they were there because, and I quote, "I only knew one person that ever saw them play live because they only play on Halloween." Is this true? IS any of this true? Was there a time in the band's history when this was their practice? If so, does anyone know why? IT is very intriguing if it is in fact true. Also, does anyone have any G.G.Allin taped shows to trade? I was trying to explain what G.G. was all about (besides being dead) to a friend of mine and i thought it best to let this person see for themselves. Drop me a line. Why did Glenn leave the band? What is the quintessential Misfits album? The classic? ABout that G.G. Allin request, I am looking for video. Thanks! Hey this is fun!!! IS the KISS tour something that people actually take serious? I mean are the loyal fans excited about this or do they see it as a sham? I thought the Ramones were retiring?! Any help with these questions is greatly appreciated!! Take care people. M.D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:12:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: the bible dystrophy fiendathon Well, the prob is this, there is a late entry for the T-shirt vote. Unfortunately, its good :) or Tammy (tes777) could tell us all to fuck off. But. Now there is obviously a wrench in the works a fly in the ointment etc. (if I were WC Fields I could say an Ethiopian in the fuel supply). and so....i understand that only 42 people have voted. Tis my understanding that over 700 of y'all subscribe! is this troooooooooo? do some of you not read? Do some of you not wear t shirts? do some of you not wish to belong to the coolest clique i have ever associated myself with? well if that is your wish..... ah so. please check out the web page t shirt thingie and vote for ben todd.. oops. Just vote. thanking you in advance (adjusting my little hourglass knickknacks)... judge nearwidow ito "....Homo Superior in my interior, but from the skin out I am Homo Sapien too..." - p. shelley Patricia Ragan Hoehner Denmother, Fiendtroop #138 Honeybunny on the Operators' Manual nrwidow@magicnet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:45:19 -0400 From: _______ Subject: Jerry Update I talked to Jerry again today (6/25/96) for the first time in about a month. He filled me in on some of the stuff that's been going on. THE TOUR ~~~~~~~~ They're getting along just fine with the guys from Anthrax and will be selling new Resurrection shirts done by Ed Repka in the coming months. The tour will end at Action Park on August 31st, and they're looking for a lot of support at that show, as it's their home-coming show to end the tour. In the future, Jerry would like to tour with local bands opening, to keep the ticket price down and help out some of the bands. However, he doesn't want you to send or give him tapes of you band. He has tons of mail to read and not a lot of time to go through tapes, so he came up with 2 options: 1) have the club owner pick a good local band to open 2) have someone from the Misfits Bible (me) listen to tapes of bands that want to open for them, and I'll send him the best 5 or so. BLACKLIGHT SINGLE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oops, make that the MARS ATTACKS single. The guys went into the studio in May and spent three days recording and mixing Mars Attacks, The Hunger, Blacklight, The Haunting, Dead King's Rise, Talons of Steel, and Dr. Phibes Rises Again. When the new material is released, some of you will recognize the little guitar intro that Doyle does at the beginning of each show - it's the intro to Dr. Phibes. Jerry plans to release the MARS ATTACKS single as a one-sided 7". This single will not be available any time soon - perhaps by the fall. The BLACKLIGHT single will come out after Michale and Doyle touch it up a bit and mix the songs, but MARS ATTACKS will definitely be out first. FIEND CLUB ~~~~~~~~~~ The "Shocking Return Of The Misfits" postcards were sent out a few weeks ago to fiends in Texas, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, New Jersey, and several other states. 8000 of these postcards are still left over and will be given out at shows in the future. OTHER STUFF ~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey Image still exists! He showed up out of nowhere at one of the Fort Myers shows and hung out with the band all night. that's all. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:07:51 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Here we go again... Once again the fiends take their places, on your MARK, get set and their off!?! well it seems i've said this before but we have another extension. Yes, what can i say but we now have a 15th design that Ben Todd pleaded his life to have put on the page. Mark and I decided it would have to be done. So what now? We have till Sunday at 10PM. That is it, no one, not no one will get anymore extensions. But what does that also mean, that you got ***FIVE YES CAN YOU FUCKING PICK UP YOUR FINGERS AND COUNT FIVE MORE DAMN DAYS TO VOTE, SO IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT YET YOU HAVE 15 DIFFERENT DESIGNS TO CHOOSE FROM AND FIVE FUCKING DAYS TO DO IT IN. THAT MEANS YOU AND I KNOW WHO HASN'T VOTED YET TOO!!! YOU MUST GET YOUR LAZY FUCKING ASS OVER TO A COMPUTER OR TAKE ON DAMN MINUTE TO SEND AN E-MAIL TO ME SAYING WHO'S DESIGN YOU LIKE THE BEST. PLUS I KNOW YOU PROBABLY SAW ALL THE DESIGNS BY NOW AND IF YOU HAVE NOT. THEN GO LOOK ALREADY, YOU CHECK THE NEWS SECTION TO SEE WHAT MARK PUT THERE NEXT SO JUST LOOK AT THE ONE THAT SAYS BIBLE T-SHIRTS. SHIT YOU GOT TO BE BLIND AS A BAT TO MISS IT. AT THIS POINT ONLY 42 OF YOU HAVE MADE THE EFFORT AND THAT IS NOT EVEN TRUE CAUSE TWO OF THEM CAME FROM ME AND MARK. SHIT EVEN ETHAN KENNEDY TOOK THE TIME TO VOTE. NOW DO IT AND DON'T GIVE ME ANYMORE REASON TO POP ONE OF YOUR BLOOD VESSELS, CAUSE IF MINE GOES YOUR NEXT!!! AGAIN THIS IS WHAT YOU DO: its that time for all you wonderful Bible Members to do the right thing and vote for your fave design for the front of our own Bible Members T-shirt. This is how it goes: 1) Go to the Misfits Web Page 2) Go into the News section, and find the one titled Misfits Bible T-shirts 3) Look at each image 4) Pick the one you want to be on the front of the t-shirt 5) Send an e-mail to (me) tes777@bridge.net saying which design (by name of Artist) you like. 6) You have till this SUNDAY June 30TH. at 10PM to do this. 7)Monday's Bible will have the post of who's design will grace the front of our t-shirt. 8) The rest is up to Jerry and Mark. 9) You will be kept informed of all details up until the t-shirt is ready to ship. 10) Nice, but you have to vote if you want the best piece of art on your t-shirt. *** on to some lighter stuff - to Dave Naked - Dr. Phibes was a Vincent Price movie which is a great one at that. It's about a man who's wife dies during an operation. He supposedly dies in an auto accident. Though he does survive and plans to murder all the doctors and the one nurse that operated on his wife. This is carried out to a "T" of the plagues that were sent on to the egyptians during the days that Moses and his people were enslaved. the second movie was Dr. Phibes rises again which i don't remember the detail of since i have not seen it in a long time. Though i don't remember how he comes back, since when he finishes his tasks he kills himself by replacing his blood with embalming fluid. as he lays next to his dead wife. You can rent these movies anywhere. Jay P. - yes i did ask the question you are asking now. I asked Jerry and Michale how he was found, the on going joke was that lots of people came to audition but not to be in the band, just to meet the guys. Michale was found right around the corner literally. He lives right around the corner from Jerry. Plus they believe that some one up there was looking out for them and that is why he was so close. The rest is history. Ben - your dream seems a bit on the odd side, have you been eating weird food( like brains maybe!?!) and watching Danzig videos lately? well this has been a thrill as alway and i hope to finish this t-shirt really soon. later to all the little fiendies. TES777 (yes my name is Tammy if you might have forgotten by now, yet how could you forget the social fiend director of this wacked up ship!?!) ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Mars Attack, plus stuff BIBLE MEETINGS Baltimore Show LAST ISSUE Time to write the post... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nikolopoulos Yannis -BSc Mod Comp Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 15:32:46 BST Subject: see ya! That's it for me. I'm gone for the summer... so goodbye all until September (or October)! Yannis "forget about all those who can't see my point of view" p.s : I know it's late but ... to the person that asked about Black Flag a few issues ago : email me if you want info on them. I can probably help you...(I'll have my email address for a few more days) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:12:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Subject: Yeah I'm addicted >.D-Rod wrote: > But I cant get enough, I have never >been like this with any other band! Sure a little rollins, Samhain, Danzig >and fugazi slip in for about 2 days but I always go back. It is like this >evil addictive drug that I cant get off. Are any of you like this? Big time!!.I don't know what it is about the Misfits either, but man am I hooked on them big time.Your right D-Rod its like a evil addictive drug and you just want more and more!!Which suits me just mine. If I'm practicing playing my bass all I want to learn now is Misfits tunes.Same with my band, gotta jam some 'Fits tunes or else the day ain't right.Yeah sure I listen to ohter stuff in my disc player for a change of pace, but like you said it isn't long and its back to the Misfits. It all started with the box set.I knew it kick ass but man I'm totally blown away with it! .Yeah, sure I listen to other stuff in my disc player, but it isn't long before the Misfits return.Plus seen them live didn't help me with my addiction!( In-fuckin-tense show!!) .This is the first band that I have ever been obsessed with(maybe even possessed) If I'm drinkin my beer at a party I bring my Misfits mix tape and tell them to put it on.Gotta here the Misfits when I drinkin' as do most of my friends now thanks to me!Hehe. Maybe there is somthin kinda spell the put in the box,so as soon as you open it Bang! It hits you.Kinda like that Simpsons episode with the flu germs in the juicer box.Or maybe when they were remastering it they added subbliminal (sp?) messages that tell you "you can't get enough your hooked" or somthin.My excuse is I never had a "good" tape.All mine were like taped from a tape from a shit stereo on a shit tape.Cd's ha $30+tax for collection1 ( I live in Canada,eh).Tapes I hardly listen to cause they were shit quality.So now I have the box($120-ouch) I'm just makin up for lost time. Sorry for being so long, haven't posted in a while,at least it easy to read. Later Fiends! //Brad// ------------------------------ From: JHH5109@acs.tamu.edu Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:51:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: The Creature Walks Among Us Hey Fiends... A quick little post...I was going to explain the Dr. Phibes thing, but it has already been done...Dr. Phibes is also mentioned in the song "Mighty Heroes" by the Sloppy Seconds. About the Ramones retiring...Nancy Collins, writer for Verotik, told me a couple of months ago that Joey Ramone has brain cancer...I don't know if it is true, but that's what I heard. I never received my very own Fiend Club postcard...I guess the wonderful Texas postal system ate it...Could someone please pick one up for me...My address is P.O. Box 15458, College Station, TX 77841..... I also have a couple of Misfits videos to trade...Unfortunately, I think everybody already has them. I have the Santa Barbara '82 show, and some Detroit public access video with the Fits... I also have an Undead video recorded live from the Covered Wagon...Anybody else have something cool Could someone clue me in on the EV hotline, please? Thanks! Are there any Texas Bible subcribers? Is anyone interested in being on the radio? I'm a DJ...and looking for something fun to play... I'm out of stuff to talk about...JHH5109@acs.tamu.edu.... Flounder ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:42:38 -0400 From: _______ Subject: Last Issue > From: "Jay P." > Bobby wrote "...After awhile, certain clueless idiots (metalheads?) got > the wrong idea..." When I read this I almost flipped. Could it be that > perfect bobby who loves everyone just called an entire section of the > population idiots based on the type of music they enjoy??? Sounds like > discrimination to me. Hey Bob, why don't you go join the Skinheads. Hey Fiends, don't take everything so literally. One of the things that gets Bobby in trouble sometimes is his sense of humor. I thought that was hilarious, but I guess some of you took it seriously. > From: "Roger Holmes" > To everyone else > Does anyone know if Glenn or Bobby have secretley taken in a new > fits show? I think it would be interesting to hear their opinions. Well, as far as anyone knows, Glenn hasn't made it to any of the shows, but Joey Image and some of the other former Misfits have, as has London May of Samhain. Steve Zing told me he might go to one of the shows, and Bobby has been invited to the Roseland show, but Bobby can tell us about that. > From: ? > *** In Spook City, USA, does he really say "Here I'm gonna capture you" > like the box set book claims?? I have my doubts. The lyrics on the page included the corrected line: "Here is where I'll die for sure." > From: "Michael W. Dunn" > I was listening to the Henry Rollins spoken word CD "Get In The Van" > recently. He mentioned that he saw The Misfits, when Glenn was in the > band, doing a sound check at a club that he and Black Flag were scheduled > to play that very evening. HE marveled at the fact that they were there > because, and I quote, "I only knew one person that ever saw them play > live because they only play on Halloween." > > Is this true? IS any of this true? Was there a time in the band's > history when this was their practice? If so, does anyone know why? IT > is very intriguing if it is in fact true. This is not true. This was just a generalization made by a guy who really wasn't that big of a fan. The Misfits didn't play often by most bands' standards, and in the first 3 or 4 years, they would play at most once or twice a month, with big shows on Halloween, for obvious reasons. > Why did Glenn leave the band? He wanted to do his own thing, and was unhappy with the way The Misfits were going. He talks about this in a bunch of interviews and articles, some of which are on the web page. > What is the quintessential Misfits album? The classic? All of them. > IS the KISS tour something that people actually > take serious? I mean are the loyal fans excited about > this or do they see it as a sham? I would say that 99% of the loyal fans have been waiting for this day since Peter Criss officially announced he was leaving the band back in 1980. The KISS mailing list is going crazy with excitement. mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:55:01 -0700 From: Richard Hinojos Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #196 the abominable dr. phibes starred the master of horror vincent price as a scientist looking for eternal life, or sumfin along those lines. there was also a gratuitous sequel, dr.phibes rises again. > From: Tyler Buckmaster > Subject: stuff > ok...minor misfits sighting... > I was watching Bio - Dome (you know the new Pauly Shore MOvie..) and one > of the main characters is named Doyle...Just trying to pictures the REAL > Doyle goofing around with Pauly...heh.. did you fail to see Patricia Hearst as Doyle's mom, or were you too busy doin the safety dance? mmmmm... joey adams... mmmm... teresa hill... =) don't know if this has been posted: in skulheadface, towards the beginning (before lawnjockey). there's a boy who cuts his wrist. in the background, nest to the scumdogs poster is the crimson ghost. mmmm... more beer! speaking of the ghost, let him be. this bible alone, there were 2 or 3 people talkin smack. and you wonder why CG always checks his punk-as-fuck- o-meter? mark: are you sure "we are 138" is about THX-1138? ;) i agree with whoever suggested it: put a disclaimer at the top for a few issues. oderyq urungus ------------------------------ From: cbmed@cdx.net Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:02:34 -0400 Reading the bible is becoming a strenuous task so I will ask my questions and expect a response. When are the Misfits coming back to Canada w/ or w/out Anthrax? What's up with Danzig V? When is Danzig going on tour? Please e-mail your answers to me directly because reading the bible takes far too long, and I'd rather not be absorbing blues filtered light from my screen. Maybe some of you can take note as to the length of my post! Buster Hymen The Disgruntled Postal Worker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:33:30 GMT Subject: Atlanta Show From: Adrock@usa.pipeline.com (Brent Williamson) First let me say after driving 2 hours from B'ham it was well worth the trip.Before I point out the highlights of the show I first must say that Jerry Only was talking to a group of about 10 people after the show including myself.He said something about finding Fits info on the internet so I just spoke up and said bible.He asked if I was on it and of course said yeah and he said for me to tell you guys that the Mars Attack 7" WILL BE RELEASED HALLOWEEN.He said the other songs didnt turn out so good but Mars Attack was great.I would of posted this info saturday but I just got my monitor fixed. The show,Cannible Corpse,wow the guy can make his hair go round and round in a circle,they sucked.Anthrax,they were ok but the highlight was them starting to do some indian song and a guy tossing a beer bottle at Scott Ian.Scott blocked it and picked the bottle up and stopped the music.He got on the mic and said "Where's the fuckn faggot that threw this bottle,come on up pussy I'll kill your ass"Then he asked for the crowd to point him out,but I guess no one did.So he walks off stage,then the rest of the band walks and the Jerry Only walks onstage and says Scott was hurt by the bottle and doesnt want to play anymore and the rest of the band doesnt want to finish without him,and he says something to the effect of to bad your going to have to miss the rest of Anthrax set due to one asshole.I didnt mind,that just put the fits on sooner and gave them more time. ON TO THE MISFITS,GREAT,GREAT,GREAT Show.Graves comes out in the make-up and goes into halloween.The music was great and the crowd got to see the Fits KICK ASS.During I believe,Mommy can I go out and kill tonight this kid gets onstage.Next thing you know Graves drops the mic and starts beating this bitch to the ground.After he hits the ground Graves tries to go back and get the mic but the guy on the ground is still trying to pull him down and punch.So Graves starts to beat on him some more and then Doyle comes over and puts a boot to the head.The Guy was beat so bad the roadies had to lift him off the stage.When they lifted him up the guy didnt have a nose,It was just blood spewing everywhere.It was fucking great.Jerry said something after the show about that was the person who threw the bottle but Im not sure,it was still a ass whiping that would make the ultimate fighting championship proud.Other highlights was Graves falling backwards into the crowd off of about 15ft speakers.Then during 138 the bass player from Anthrax came out in a skeleton mask to play bass and another roadie was on guitar while Jerry and Doyle stage dove and was being passed around on top off the crowd.Every song sounded great and I got them to sign my lp's except Chud who I never saw.I also got Jerry to sign the Resurrection tour shirt I got there.The only thing I was pissed about is that in a interview I did with Graves he said that they were going to do every song except Spook City,Rat Fink and Demonomania.But they didnt,it was still one of the best shows Ive ever been to. Glenn who?? ------------------------------ From: ST7L3@Jetson.UH.EDU Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:04:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #196 Did anyone on the Bible go to see the Misfits/Anthrax/Nalpalm Death show in Houston, tEXAS? , tYCHO ------------------------------ From: "Dean, Mike SrA (20CS/SCSNT)" Subject: joke Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 15:34:00 PDT het that alternative nation tour thing was SARCASM........ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Subject: metallica/danzig/black sabbath someone said: > How about the blatant rip off of the "Zero the Hero" riff in > "Her Black Wings." John Christ came forth and admitted this in an article some time ago. okay, bye. Mike mtw4@axe.humboldt.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Dr. Phibes Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 18:22:36 EDT From: Blood Feast Dr. Phibes was ABOMINABLE, not fantastic or amazing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:15:00 -0700 From: Dave Naked Subject: more stuff...still with Hey--just a few more things...1)jerry and the misfits really need someone to fill tshirt and posters orders (to the best of my knowledge Jerry does)...its sucks so very much when they tour and you get your stuff a few months later (its happened). 2)...hate to be an asshole, but on the web page Mark lists "Mephisto Waltz" as a [SAMHAIN] track...its as MiSFiTS as anything new (blacklight). Just because glenn recorded it with another guy that was not/never in the 'Fits doesnt mean its non-misfits. Jerry's recording with two new guys, anyway...glenn wrote the song for the misfits. what about the new misfits recordings? will they be listed as [KRYST THE CONQUERER]? no. Maybe because marks friends with jerry? ..maybe...Allright, how about the song "Dr. Phibes rises again", that was written for Kryst, and recorded by a band conprised of guys who had nothing to do with the misfits (well before they joined the band)..will that be listed as kryst????? (im not a glenn fan, just trying to make a point...im into the new Misfits as much as the next guy)3) since no one has the KRYST album/ep for sale...can i get a copy of the album from someone. later dave naked ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Tyler Subject: Nothing Really I haven't posted for a while but wanted to say hi and wish everyone on the list a good summer! (I'm not going anywhere, I'm just bored...) Lisa ltyler@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us "She said you never went three times. Bob." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:32:32 -0400 (EDT) From: WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr Subject: dr. phibes and danzig dreams Nine Gruesome Curses... Bees... Bats... Beasts... Blood... Hail... Frogs... Locusts... Darkness... Death! anyways thats what the back of my abominable dr. phibes video sez. i bought it a kmart for like $4 about a year ago. since someone already talked about the movie, i guess i don't have to. it is very bizarre that's for damn sure. i once had a dream that i was sleeping and when i woke up i went into the bathroom and saw danzig's face instead of my own... guess i was listening to a lot of lucifuge then (lucifer's face in the mirror when you look...) weird. also what nights are bible night on irc i forgot. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jess Cyphers Asenath WiCkEdKiNgWiCkEr cyphersj@polaris.ncs.nova.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the ruler of an invisible empire. My loyal subjects i will reward. My enemies i will destroy... Friends? Did it ever occur to you that friendship is at its best a rather doubtful asset. I don't want friends. I shall have followers, worshippers, people who will obey me because they realize my greatness! -Abbot & Costello Meet the Invisible Man- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: **Free the Unabomber! One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter** ------------------------------ From: MKauf22485@gnn.com Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:16:19 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #196 I just entered the Internet a few months ago, and I have to say that getting set up with the Misfits Bible was my best move so far. Once a week, I see people discussing Misfits, Glenn Danzig, the things I love. With that off my chest, I have few things to say. DANZIG V IS COMING!!! Personally, I have been waiting forever to see this glorius light. And I thought the wait for Danzig 4p was long! I was scared for months when I heard the news of the breakup. No Danzig, Me go crazy! But with the introduction of Joey Castillo , a guy with some insane skills, has the look to fit in well the band. Hell, you have to admit Chuck >BISCUITS< (Ha Ha) didn't have the evil in him. Don't forget Jerry Cantrell... a man who can rip with the best of them. Forget Eeree Von and John Christ, they can go f*ck themselves. I do hope though that Christ does well with his TV jingle gig, what a f*ckin joke! DANZIG V I am sick of looking for rare Danzig singles and bootleg albums. I've got Deep, When Death had no name, Danzig live, and a whole lot of it. I CAN'T WAIT FOR V. The rumor of a song called White Devil Rise just adds to the agony. But good things come to those who wait.... EVIL IS THE LAST TO LOSE -Merc22 ------------------------------ Date: 27 JUN 96 08:59:50 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Ok, two things 1. I promise, no more Nazi posts for me. If anyone wants to discuss this stuff off line, email me here or at home (AZAWOdNY@FAST.NET). I'll be happy to debate/discuss all that stuff to any extent. I've visited Auszhwitz as well as been to Danzig (Gdansk now) and have plenty of cool war stories from my parents (who both lived through WWII in Poland). I've got a degree in History specializing in Russian/Soviet history and am fascinated by all that Nazi/Commie crap. The End. 2. By the time you guys are reading this, I'll be getting ready to cruise to NYC to catch Misfits @ Roseland. I didnt get my tix in advance but I doubt it has sold out as Roseland is pretty big. Hopefully I wont have to put up with Anthrax or Cannibal Corpse for too long, cause watching "speed/death metal in E minor" can get pretty boring fast (at least for me). Hope to see some of you local fiends there. If any of you care, I'll be seeing the Sex Pistols there on 8/8 AND 8/9. This is the summer of reunions. Hell I even heard David Lee Roth is back in Van Halen. Adios Amigos ... AZ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:37:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "C. Sylvester" Subject: ...stuff... greeeeetings Fiends... a few things... - to the guy who told me to shorten my post..i could get all pissy and stuff, but i figure everyone is entitled to their opinions, but i feel that my post was relevant (Chicago show reivew) and maybe a bit wordy, but everything i say is wordy. plus, if you don't like it, scroll over it...thats always worked for me...on-line time shouldn't matter, if you're paying for your time on-line, then that's sad...things like JUNO are 100% *free*... [sorry, had to get that off my chest...] - short story about my recent trip to London... I came back to the hotel late one nite and got into bed and attempted to go to sleep, but was kept awake by someone obviously having a party across the street...they were playing semi-decent music and then i swore i heard "Mother" playing on their loud stereo, and I though 'oh goodie, more lame-ass trendy people' but then it was followed by "It's Coming Down" and after that was "Twist of Cain"...i was impressed...i usually don't hear Danzig blaring at one in the morning...i dunno about you guys.. *then* "We Are 138" came on and i was simply amazed...i was in another country and these people were blasing the 'FiTS at one o'clock in the morning...i thought if i heard another good song that i'd put on my Tour '96 shirt and head on over and say, 'what's up'...i heard "Demonomania", and then that was it... :( next was Oasis' "Wonderwall" and i blocked it out and went to sleep...oh well... that was my little story. - I NEED THE CHICAGO VIDEO or audio... I *KNOW* at least part of the show was filmed on video, and from what i've been reading someone at least has access to part of the video... please contact me ASAP... my list can be found at: http://www.prairienet.org/~anthrax/audios.htm if you cannot find anything that is needed on my list, i'm sure other things not listed publicly on the lists will interest you... ;-) - Earth A.D. opinion: like it every now and then, but prefer 'Static Age' anyday... ...and a HUUUUGE THANK YOU! to those who helped me with the C2 colored vinyls... - Carl (csylvest@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu) ------------------------------ From: MR ERIK M LINDBERG Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:12:07, -0500 Subject: Mars Attacks 7" Mark--- I don't know if you know this or not, but do you know if they're doing anything cool, like etching the other side? Less Than Jake etched the unused b-side of their Rock'n'Roll Pizzeria 7" and it was cool beyond belief! Dr. Phibes: Well, this was already explained, but, the Abominable Dr. Phibes was an excellent movie staring Vincent Price. I recommend viewing it. -Chubbs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:59:10 -0600 From: mikel@kelman.ab.ca (Michael Link) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #195 > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:31:58 -0700 > From: Dave Naked > Subject: > > 2. on another note on LOAD metallica ripped the shit off of > DANZIG..."Thorn withen"/"Snakes of Christ" > your point being?? glenn stole _the hunter_ as his very own on danzig I and since that riff isn't exactly *unique*, *stealing* it is in a pretty grey area anyways, the whole album load has a danzig *feel* throughout it since he is one of metallica's biggest musical influences. which is a good thing, imho mikel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:46:01 -0400 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: two left Hi Fiends, Sorry I haven't posted in a while (as if you care). Anyway, I'll be here in State College (maybe) for about a month before we go on tour again in August, so here's a little contest. I've got two copies left over of the "Evil is as Evil Does" video from the huge run that my brother made while I was gone. One of these videos can be yours for $10 ppd if you are one of the first two people to email with the correct answer to this question: "What song are the new Misfits currently opening up with on their tour?" The "Hymns from Hell" AUDIO tapes are ALWAYS available for $4 ppd, so just email me if you need the address. Talk to you soon. - Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:13:29 -0500 From: ^HepCat^ Subject: Misfits in Nashville? A friend was at the Knoxville show, and she said that they said they were gonna play Nashville, ayone know anything about it?? If so, anyone going to the show? E-mail me if u know anything about it ,.-~"`*~.,~"`*~->WaiTiNG FoR MY RuKa<-~"`*~.,~"`*~-,. ------------- ^HepCat^ ------------- eTeRNaLY CoNSuMiNG MaSS QuaNTiTieS oF CHeRRY KooL-aiD! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:07:33 -0400 From: Emperor Subject: St. Andrew's Show Does anyone have a video of the may 11th show at St. Andrews in Detroit. ------------------------------ From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:17:33 -0400 Subject: Danzig Hey, I met a guy the other day who said that the new guitarist (for the tour, at least) is a guy named Chris Guinee, and from the way he described him he sounds like he looks a bit like Chuck. I have no idea if this guy was full of it or not, I just thought I'd report it on the chance someone may have heard of this, also. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:34:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: denmother please dont go out and kill AGAIN tonight yes, the freezer at the Casa Nearwidow is quite full. Today on Geraldo there was a rerun from 93 where the turgid one interviewed women who are in love with incarcerated serial killers. The lovely young (?) lady who found Jeff Dahmer to be her true love had a tattoo the likes of which I have never seen before. It was on her beefy thigh, a pair of amputated hands, one hers(she pointed this out), one Jeff's, dripping blood in handcuffs touching the skull of Jeff (it was real well done, it did resemble the shape of his head and everything) which was weeping tears of blood. EXcellent! but other than that, i did have a few things i have to address. franz: don't let the prejudices of a few ruin your day. Americans are by and large assholes, if you hadnt noticed. Land of the free, my eye. As a rule we amurricans should be ashamed of ourselves. As much as I proudly embrace the white trash culture that I love, sometimes I do know better. Plus northern Italian food is by far the best in the world. And any country that gave us both Luchino Visconti and Bertolucci should be lionized forever. devilsrain(aka Joseph Marino): how cool that you named yourself after John Travolta's first and worst movie! but aside from that, let me ask: did you even READ CG's post? where did you find that he finds Bobby 'amazing'? I thought he was --something different, snicker--pretty sarcastic to the guy as usual. I think the gist of the post was that Bobby's new band Times Square was good. not that Bobby was good, but the band was real good. Right? am I wrong? and finally......I have been assailed day and night since i remarked --innocently and TRUTHFULLY I might add--when asked, hey patricia you knew Glenn then, did he ever tell you what 138 means? my answer is yeah, I asked him and he told me it was about numerology. Now before you jump all over me again, let me say this: I really dont give a flying fuck what the song is about. I know that it seems to be about thx1138 and that is great. All I did was report what I was told by the author of the fucking song. Maybe Glenn was trying to prove to me he was "occulter-than-fuck" but thats what he told me. When John Greenwell reported back to me his findings on the numerology page, I thought it was interesting. I certainly didnt expect to get the kind of VIOLENT negative reaction I got from a lot of people personally! and when I saw what Mark posted to John in reply, I felt the evil Denmother rise and roar to protect her Fiendtroop! thats all, let us let it end here and dont blame John. I wasnt trying to start any controversy and I am not trying to call anyone a liar or stupid. I just reported what was told to me by the guy who wrote the song, who had no reason to lie or mislead me at all --especially at the time, when nobody gave a flying fuck. I sure hope Glenn is reading this goddam web page so he knows how much all this is causing me...drop dead! and oh yeah... Michael Dunn (wasnt that the name of the midget in Star Trek?): read the Misfits Book that is on the page. The tours, timeline, etc. will tell you all you need to know about the Misfits in the 70-80s. They played many many times besides oct 31. This supports my theory that henry garfield is a noknowthing. And a beetlebrow. Birthday shoutouts: june 28, HB Ratan (Richard Lundberg) june 29, have a good one, Derek Smith and of course.... HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVE ZING! WHEW! love, patricia "....Homo Superior in my interior, but from the skin out I am Homo Sapien too..." - p. shelley Patricia Ragan Hoehner Denmother, Fiendtroop #138 Honeybunny on the Operators' Manual nrwidow@magicnet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:09:52 -0400 Subject: Stone Pony Video/Angry Red D-Rod & 20 Eyes ... I forgot your e-mail addresses but I wanted to let you know that today I sent out your videos of the Stone Pony show from May 3rd. I also put the Coney Island High show from last Halloween to fill out the tape. Don't forget to let all the other fiends who want to get a copy of the video from either of you how they can do so. Also, I recently got issues #2 & 3 of Keith Huening's "Angry Red" Misfits/Samhain/Danzig fanzine and they're great. Anyone who hasn't sent for an issue is missing out. Cool pictures from shows, great interviews, fun-reading articles, etc. The best part is the large color mini-poster that comes with each issue. You can get a copy of either issue # 2 or 3 (I don't think there are any copies of issue #1 available) or a year long subscription (I think that's 6 issues) by sending $2 or $13 respectively to: Keith Huening/5883 Kyles Station/ Hamilton, OH 45011. I just thought I'd give Keith a little plug here. Anyway, I'll see some of you at the Roselands show tomorrow night (by the time this gets read the show will already be on or have been on). I'll be sitting up on the left side by those cushioned risers. I'm not really into the "pit scene" and the side offers the best way to see the band. Anyway ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ From: JediMas138@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 21:47:13 -0400 Subject: What Does It Mean?` I've Been Wondering What The P.C. In Doyle Ment. Mark, Can You Help Me? Thanks. Jedi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 21:13:28 -0500 From: ^HepCat^ Subject: RE: I feel the same way... >From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO >Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:11:13, -0500 >Subject: I feel the same way... >Crimson Ghost...I am the guy who made the comment about Bobby Steele. >I believe my exact comment was, "What's a matter? No one wants to >play wif you? Boo Hoo." In saying this I was utilizing sarcasm as a >means to show how Bobby is acting like a jealous child through his >comments on the Misfits. I, unlike you, am not a fan of Bobby and do >not care who he plays with or who wants to play with him. My comment >had nothing to do with Bobby's musical resume. Let me end with a >word of advice for you Crimson Ghost: Before jumping into a >discussion (one in which no way involved you) in order to ego stroke >another person you find amazing, don't assume anything until you ask >the person who made the comments and WAS involved in said discussion. >Thanks for your time. Yeah anyway..... > > Devil's Rain Well, I dont know what this is all about, but I think I have known CG long enough to say, that I havent ever seen CG kiss anyones ass, i bet you dont even know him, or the situation between him and bobby. so piss off ,.-~"`*~.,~"`*~->WaiTiNG FoR MY RuKa<-~"`*~.,~"`*~-,. ------------- ^HepCat^ ------------- eTeRNaLY CoNSuMiNG MaSS QuaNTiTieS oF CHeRRY KooL-aiD! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:08:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Subject: Mars Attack, plus stuff Just a few more things fiends. #1: There is a new movie coming out( this year?)Its called Mars Attack its a"big" time movie with big stars big $ etc.Tim "artfag"Burton has somthin to do with it. Anyway my point being isn't there a Misfits(w/Graves)song called Mars Attack?If so any connection to the movie? # 2: I agree with who ever posted the idea(bible#195 I think) of a disclaimer/warning(?) for the bible telling fiends we are familair with Save/Bell episode with the Misfits poster and with the meaning behind the song We Are138.It gets pretty annouying (kinda like my spelling)seeing that shit time after time. #3:The bible shirt if or when we ever get one.I think it would look cool to have a small NEW crimson ghost on the left sleeve.Like Doyle's arm band(s).And maybe have we are 138 around it in, a circle.Just a thought. #4: Glenn who? Later Fiends, //Brad// ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:14:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Jackal Subject: BIBLE MEETINGS Hey Fiends, Many of you have been showing up to the Bible Meetings, but there are so many of you that could but don't. Why ? Its beyond me why those of you don't, don't. Talk to most anyone who has come and they will tell you that they have enjoyed it. So come give it a try. This will only work if everyone joins in. Jackal Bible Meetings are every Tuesday and Thursday night at 12:00 midnight est. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:06:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Holford Subject: Baltimore Show Just got back from the show at Hammerjacks in Baltimore, Maryland and figured I'd give a check review. Pretty good I guess, personally I don't care to much for the new songs, and most of the other's didnt sound that great, but Last Caress was the BEST! Anthrax was horrible and luckily I missed Cannibal Corpse. Jerry does seem to be showing his age, but I'm sure he could still whoop some ass. Graves isn't that bad, he does look and act like Glenn from 78-79 but maybe it's just the gloves. Over all it was a good show though, and if I could get take it back, I wouldn't. Does anyone know what's going on with the Captain Harlock shirts? Mike??? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:27:30 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: LAST ISSUE -->MR JOSEPH F MARINO , >Crimson Ghost...I am the guy who made the comment about Bobby Steele. >I believe my exact comment was, "What's a matter? No one wants to >play wif you? Boo Hoo." In saying this I was utilizing sarcasm as a >means to show how Bobby is acting like a jealous child through his >comments on the Misfits. Yep that's exactly what you said. I did not argue your original point at all, I was only using it to illustrate a point *I* was trying to make. >I, unlike you, am not a fan of Bobby and do not care who he plays with or >who wants to play with him. My comment had nothing to do with Bobby's >musical resume. My comments re: people wanting to play with Bobby, have nothing to do with the whole bullshit premise of your post. All my comments say is that Dave Ari is quite experienced and he likes to play with Bobby just fine. >Let me end with a word of advice for you Crimson Ghost: Before jumping >into a discussion (one in which no way involved you) in order to ego stroke >another person you find amazing, don't assume anything until you ask >the person who made the comments and WAS involved in said discussion. >Thanks for your time. Yeah anyway..... Oh please, let me end with a word of advice for you: If you don't want people to comment/disagree with something you say, don't post your moronic opinions in a public forum, where commenting on ones posts is the standard. As far as me "ego stroking" Bobby because "I find him amazing" That's cute. Is that the best you can do? I'll have to check with Bobby but I don't believe I ever "ego stroked" him, as a matter of fact my exact words were: "That leaves us with your favorite gimp and mine, the poster child for retro-active birth control, the nine toed wonder, Bobby Steele.." yep I'm really complimenting him with that one. how about this... "I need not type up Bobby's accomplishments for this forum, he's more than capable of floating his own boat..." yep - I'm really "ego stroking" to tell you the truth don't say anywhere in that review that Bobby is amazing, or anything, I say that the band is good and you should give them a chance. Get a fucking life loser, get a fucking cause, find something to focus your hostility on. but above all get off my fucking back. Maybe Bobby should tell people what it's like to hang out with me all night. I can tell you, if your Bobby Steele it ain't fun. I'm fucking ruthless. I ridicule and try to humiliate him every chance I get. He's on the sidewalk talking to some friends and I'm there yelling "Hey gimp, nice fucking wig" Yes, it's all done in jest because he's a friend, but when he says something I don't agree with look out. I really tried to dislike Bobby, but just couldn't do it. I will *always* disagree with him as far as the Misfits are concerned and if he steps out of line I'm usually the first person to let him know. Are we forgetting the fact that *I* was the first person with enough balls to flame bobby right here on this list? Actually Mr. Marino, I think what really pisses you off is the fact that I mentioned something that you wrote and didn't mention your name. Oh well too fucking bad. ~~~~~~~next The above is a perfect example of what I mean when I say "I can't write anything without some moronic asswipe taking offense to it" What did I do to deserve the response that I got?? Fuck Ya's all of ya's ~~~~~~~next Mark, quit yer bitchin' - how much can people possibly talk about the misfits?? at least the Nazi stuff was interesting reading. Well, a hell of alot more interesting than "I know the real meaning of the 138 dead cats hanging from the devilocks on Saved by the bell..." and while I'm on the subject - why the fuck do you wait til fucking 9am to put out the bible now?? What's this shit - waiting for posts? I'm personally sick of not getting my bible until fucking noon time. other than that, love ya man ~~~~~~next Brady, so sorry, I was really gonna mention you but it slipped my mind. Everyone, while I hung out at the TS show I did so with Brady. She's a blast to hang out with and make fun of Bobby with. Hope your pictures came out good. OK? feel better now? I'm really sorry I should have mentioned you c ya's ~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ "...While the tickets were expensive the show was quite relentless in the square..." - B. Eno The Crimson Ghost - crmsngst@planet.net http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/ Operator's Manual http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om -=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~-=`=-~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:51:48 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: Time to write the post... Hello fellow fiends: I must say you guys are really getting into the voting mood i see. Well i got you one better and it's not a threat or a scare or your the laziest shit on the face of this earth. For the 15 artists, it's your turn to play: You want your work on our t-shirts badly, then this is what i got for you. With a little bit of work and being as nice as i am, to the winner of this vote that has taken longer than what it takes to elect the president of the United States, You will get to have your artwork in the calendar that Denmother Patricia is putting together and your T-shirt when finished will be free. SO if you want your creation on 778 front and in 778 rooms world wide than you better talk to you fellow fiends, they like your artwork then they got to vote. You have e-mail and can send it, though don't get carried a way the votes have to come from Bible Members and i can check out anyone with Mark. So getting going, cause you know being lazy sucks shit in hell. Plus the last thing you need is me yelling again, right. In point you are reading this SO JUST COPY THIS : tes777@bridge.net AND E-MAIL IN YOUR VOTE NOW, IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD, SHIT YOUR IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER IF YOUR READING THE BIBLE, SO JUST GET IT OVER WITH!!! THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE MAKING OF A LIMITED EDITION MISFITS T-SHIRT, NO REGULAR FIEND CLUB MEMBER WILL HAVE ONE OF THESE IF THEY ARE NOT A BIBLE MEMBER!!! by the way if you thought i was going to be quiet and not yell, YOU WERE FUCKING OUT OF YOUR MIND!?! so this is it you have till sunday 10PM ONCE AGAIN WHAT DO YOU DO: its that time for all you wonderful Bible Members to do the right thing and vote for your fave design for the front of our own Bible Members T-shirt. This is how it goes: 1) Go to the Misfits Web Page 2) Go into the News section, and find the one titled Misfits Bible T-shirts 3) Look at each image 4) Pick the one you want to be on the front of the t-shirt 5) Send an e-mail to (me) tes777@bridge.net saying which design (by name of Artist) you like. 6) You have till this SUNDAY June 30TH. at 10PM to do this. 7)Monday's Bible will have the post of who's design will grace the front of our t-shirt. 8) The rest is up to Jerry and Mark. 9) You will be kept informed of all details up until the t-shirt is ready to ship. 10) Nice, but you have to vote if you want the best piece of art on your t-shirt. Simple isn't it!?! Thank you MARK, PAT, BOBBY, and of course POOKIE for helping me through this insanity!!! Later to all you fiendies and VOTE. tes777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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It's over... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: _______ Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #197 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:03:07 -0400 (EDT) > From: JHH5109@acs.tamu.edu > Could someone clue me in on the EV hotline, please? Thanks! (201) 939-1267 - it's actually just an extra phone line at Eerie's house with a permanent answering machine attached. > From: Dave Naked > 2)...hate to be an asshole, > but on the web page Mark lists "Mephisto Waltz" as a [SAMHAIN] > track...its as MiSFiTS as anything new (blacklight). Just because > glenn recorded it with another guy that was not/never in the 'Fits > doesnt mean its non-misfits. This is old. I'll never understand why some people look for controversy where none exists. Fact: Glenn wrote Mephisto Waltz for The Misfits Fact: Samhain recorded the song Fact: Samhain is NOT The Misfits That's it. If you want to think of it some other way, go ahead, but as far as I'm concerned, it's a Misfits song that was covered by Samhain and mistakenly included on a Misfits album. I will list it as so. That 'other guy' who was not in The Misfits was a member of Samhain, as was Glenn at the time. Those 2 guys also recorded the entire INITIUM (Samhain's first record) during that recording session. > Jerry's recording with two new guys, > anyway...glenn wrote the song for the misfits. The 2 new guys are members of a band called The Misfits. It is not a question of who writes the songs, but who's playing them. > what about the new > misfits recordings? will they be listed as [KRYST THE CONQUERER]? no. > Maybe because marks friends with jerry? ..maybe...Allright, how about > the song "Dr. Phibes rises again", that was written for Kryst, and > recorded by a band conprised of guys who had nothing to do with the > misfits (well before they joined the band)..will that be listed as > kryst????? If you check my discography on the page, Dr. Phibes is listed as a Kryst The Conqueror song because it was recorded by that band - about 8 years ago in fact. It has not been released, but it's on the full length album that they recorded. It's not The Misfits. However, the version that was recorded in May is The Misfits, and that version of the song will be listed as a Misfits tune. It's that easy. It's all a question of who recorded the song, as I stated above. I will even list Dr. Phibes as a cover song, since it was originally written and recorded by Kryst The Conqueror, who disbanded several years ago. > From PRH > I really dont give a flying fuck what the song is about. I know that it > seems to be about thx1138 and that is great. All I did was report what > I was told by the author of the fucking song. Maybe Glenn was trying to > prove to me he was "occulter-than-fuck" but thats what he > told me. When John Greenwell reported back to me his findings on the > numerology page, I thought it was interesting. I certainly didnt expect > to get the kind of VIOLENT negative reaction I got from a lot of people > personally! and when I saw what Mark posted to John in reply, I felt > the evil Denmother rise and roar to protect her Fiendtroop! Haha. Sorry denmom - I knew I was contradicting you, but I had to post what I've been told... It's not your fault that Glenn told you that... > From: JediMas138@aol.com > I've Been Wondering What The P.C. In Doyle Ment. Mark, Can You Help Me? His real name - Paul Caiafa. > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:08:38 -0400 (EDT) > From: Brad > Subject: Mars Attack, plus stuff > > #1: There is a new movie coming out( this year?)Its called Mars Attack its > a"big" time movie with big stars big $ etc.Tim "artfag"Burton has somthin to > do with it. Anyway my point being isn't there a Misfits(w/Graves)song > called Mars Attack?If so any connection to the movie? Indeed there's a connection. Jerry wrote the song and is hoping it will be included on the album soundtrack. So far, Burton hasn't shown any interest. > From: Crimson Ghost > Mark, > quit yer bitchin' - how much can people possibly talk about the misfits?? at > least the Nazi stuff was interesting reading. Well, a hell of alot more > interesting than "I know the real meaning of the 138 dead cats hanging from > the devilocks on Saved by the bell..." Yeah, yeah, you just wish they'd all go over to your mailing list.... Seriously everybody, CG's mailing list (Operator's Manual) is a great place for discussing stuff like that. Ask him to send you a sample issue or just subscribe - you'll see. > and while I'm on the subject - why the fuck do you wait til fucking 9am to > put out the bible now?? What's this shit - waiting for posts? I'm > personally sick of not getting my bible until fucking noon time. other than > that, love ya man My new roommate hogs the modem line nowadays... so I don't get online much after about 7pm any more... mark ------------------------------ Date: 28 JUN 96 09:59:56 EDT From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com Subject: re: Misfits Bible, #197 I've tried connecting to IRC several times last night (thurs 6/27) but could not connect. I dont know if the server was at capacity or what but could not get on to save my life. I finally gave up around 12:30. Well its 10:00am now, I'm sitting on my desk at work knowing that in 12 hours, the 'fits will be kicking ass at Roseland! I'll have a belly full of Cluck-U wings (the best wings ever!!!) and I'll be ready to rock! Here's a question to those you have "personally" know some or any of the 'fits/samhain over the years. They are obviously influenced by horror movies, books, etc. I was surprised that I could find only one reference to an HP LOVECRAFT story in any "Danzig" related band. Samhain had a tune "He Who Cannot Be Named" that obviously made references to Hastur the Unspeakable (He Who Cannot Be Named as was also known) from the Lovecraft "mythology". I dont know, maybe Glenn was never really into Lovecraft, but I figured with him being the best Horror writer of the twentieth century (Steven King who?) there would be more, and there were several movies based on his books (Reanimator being the best, seeing a decapitated head perform oral sex on woman ... wow!! and it wasnt in the book, but cool none the less!) Merc22 --- I personally like the way John and Eerie fit into Danzig. Eerie was a very basic bass player but that was perfect for Danzig. He held the bottom end down nice and low. It set the perfect mood. I though John was an excellent guitarist, though I think by 4p his sound was getting predicatable. I dont know how much say he had in how he played the songs, but I found his style progressing nicely from the Danzig I through III, with III being more of the metallish artificial harmonics everywhere type sound. 4p (which to be honest i dont listen to that much) i though was on the same exact level as III. As far as Glenn ripping off other artists tunes, well I hate to break it to you, but there are only 12 notes in music. And you can only arrange them in so many ways to make a song. Every tune they do I can hear a parrallel in a 50's or 60's song, hell every Ramones song pretty much sounds copped too, you can only do a 1 4 5 progression so many different ways. I dont think he goes out of his way to steal other peoples riffs. Everyone has influences, and they will be apparent in the music you write. At least hes not sampling somebody else song and doing a rap over it. As for long posts. I dont give a fuck. If everyone wrote a one liner, there would be no bible and nobody would give a shit reading it. If you dont want to read my long ass post, use the page down button the get to the next one. If you like what you read, reply or whatever. I just happend to be really into the band and their music, and never had alot of other people to talk to about this shit. I guess I'm an old wanker (as Steve Jones would say) AZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:05:53 PST Subject: I AINT NO GODDAMN SONOFABITCH From: undead@juno.com (Bobby Steele) Hey fiends, I've gotten some more replies for the UNDEAD/TIMES SQUARE mailing list. Just email me at the above address. If you have any questions/comments that you don't want aired on the bible, you can write to me here, also. I'm looking for people who could put up/distribute flyers for our show in READING PA on July 13. We could use help in Lancaster, Harrisburg, A-town/Bethlehem . . . and anywhere else in that vicinity. Here's a few replies to the last bible . . . >From: Franz Ardito >Subject: Mr. Gennaro Anzalone >amazed of how different we are from your thougths. I live in the north >of Italy and I'm completely different from the sicilian type you know: >no hair on my back, no dark skin, no fascist, no pizza. Anyways let's >drop the topic from the bible or someone might be upset. >If anyone is interested in discussing it, just leave private e-mail. NO PIZZA ? !@$%* Yeah, most of us are just familiar with the Italians that Italy doesn't want to know. But, no pizza . . . ? >Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:07:39 PST >Subject: Opinions are like assholes, HellHound has two >From: "Jay P." >HellHound here, > . . . Anyway, in bible 192 Bobby wrote "...After awhile, >certain clueless idiots (metalheads?) got the wrong idea..." When I >read this I almost flipped. Could it be that perfect bobby who loves >everyone just called an entire section of the population idiots based >on the type of music they enjoy??? Sounds like discrimination to me. Hellhound, Hellhound, Hellhound. Lighten up. remember all those negative comments about metalheads a few bibles back? I WAS POKING FUN AT IT. THE UNDEAD probably has more metal fans than punk fans. We've had a, primarily METAL audience since '83. I like TWISTED SISTER, SAVATAGE, W.A.S.P., SABBATH, HENDRIX along with my punk favorites. > Hey Bob, why don't you go join the Skinheads. I hate the hairstyle. Picture skinny ol' me in blue-jeans and red braces - and docs. Now there's a sight. >Just because I listen >to Slayer, Metallica and others does not make >me an idiot. YOu're right. Just like listening to OZZY will not make you a homicidal - devil worshipper. There's good and bad in everything. . . *Except me. * (Remember that guy who declared me GOD two-weeks ago? I'm gonna try to take advantage of my new position. Wanna be my pope?) > This is akin to me saying "All gimps are homos that can't play >guitar for shit". I really liked bobby before I read that post, >but now I could care less for him and his 3 page long posts. I hope you read this one. >"Bobby Steele's an asshole fucking cunt." - Glenn Danzig Teenagers >From Mars (Bobby Steele Lyrics) OUCH ! ! ! >From: "Roger Holmes" >Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:17:41 GMT-4 >Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #193 >To everyone else > Does anyone know if Glenn or Bobby have secretley taken in a new >fits show? I think it would be interesting to hear their opinions. I don't know about Glenn, but I haven't seen them yet. I'd rather wait until we get the "money" problem straightened out. Then I can view them without my judgement being tainted by my anger. >And everyone should check out that Lucane comic mark mentioned. I >bought it this week and it has some cool pics and a good interview >with Jerry in which he explains the whole thing about Bobby ripping >off the Undead name. It's cool. This is complete BULLSHIT! I wanted to use the name THE UNDEAD since 1972 - because I hated DEADHEADS primarily. I've already explained the whole tie-in between me and Jerry and using that name. Remember. That was a comment by someone who also claims that BON JOVI stole 'Keep The Faith'; and Metallica stole "Wherever I Roam" from him. >From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO >Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:11:13, -0500 >Subject: I feel the same way... >Crimson Ghost...I am the guy who made the comment about Bobby >Steele. I believe my exact comment was, "What's a matter? No >one wants to play wif you? Boo Hoo." In saying this I was >utilizing sarcasm as a means to show how Bobby is acting like a j >jealous child through his comments on the Misfits. JEALOUS ? What am I jealous of? PISSED - yeah. > I, unlike you, am not a fan of Bobby and do not care who he plays >with or who wants to play with him. My comment had nothing to do >with Bobby's musical resume. Let me end with a word of advice for >you Crimson Ghost: Before jumping into a discussion (one in which >no way involved you) And all along we thought this was an open forum. I never addressed any comments to you, but allowed you to make comments about me. Let CG speak (speak CG). He simply took a shot at a comment you'd made. get used to it. I get shit for half the shit I say on here . . . and I take it. I don't come back on crying. >in order to ego stroke another person you find amazing, CG was the first person to respond to my first post on the bible. He ripped into me real good - and I took it all. I replied to his attack and after a few personal exchanges; we spoke on the phone. Now we're friends. Strange how this 'communication' thing works now. Isn't it? > don't assume anything until you ask the person who made the >comments and WAS involved in said discussion. Thanks for your >time. Yeah anyway..... Very smart advice. THAT is what this forum is about. Everyone IS involved in these discussion - actively or passively. If it's private; email the person directly. >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:30:11 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Michael W. Dunn" >Subject: Novice Fan >Hello, >I was listening to the Henry Rollins spoken word CD "Get In The >Van"recently. He mentioned that he saw The Misfits,. . .. HE >marveled at the fact that they were there because, and I quote, "I >only knew one person that ever saw them play live because they only >play on Halloween." Almost only on Halloween. It just happened that way. We couldn't get too many gigs, but if you look. you'll see we did play on other days. Just in smaller towns, like Bethlehem PA - where we played a total of about 6 shows in one year. In New York; after we got banned from Max's, the only way anyone would consider us was when they were setting up a halloween party. Halloween was our night. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:32:39 -0700 From: C Farrell Subject: eViL Hey feindz!!! Very minor misfits sighting.... In the Movie "Strange Days", just after those girls beat up santa claus on the street, you'll see some guy walking down the street wearing an old school misfits shirt. ok thats it I guess. bye. devils are born in angels arms Tom Undermine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:00:00 -0400 From: Tarry Carapezza Subject: for Flag fans... Addicted to Noise reported Friday that 6/27 (last Thursday) was the 10th anniversary of Black Flag's last show. They report no rumors of a reunion show, but fans are urged to remind themselves of the greatness of the mighty Flag. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:49:19 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: I KNOW THE *REAL* MEANING OF "138"!!!!! OK Fiends, I was in the Rec Center the other day working out and decided to go to the locker room to weigh myself to see if I gained any. So, I saunter in and ascend the scale and fiddle with the two little things on top to balance the shit out. Dammit!!! I had lost 2 pounds!!! I was down to 138!!! Then..."OH shit!!" I says to mi amigo Mike, THAT'S WHAT THE SONG MEANS!!!!!!!!! It means nothing about the fucking movie or numerology, so get those ideas out of yer heads fiends (Eh-hem, especially Mark and Denmom!)!!! GLENN WAS TALKING ABOUT ME!!!!!!! It's like a take-off on the Dead Milkmen's "Now Everybody's Me" song: He was talking about how everyone wants to be like me, hence the pronoun (is it a pronoun?) "WE." So, now that we have that shit squared away, people, we can move on to more important things: I was flipping the channels the other day and saw this stupid show, but in the background... :) Cheerio, motherfuckers, Benito ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "There's a time to be a monster, not a man." -misinterpreted lyric Ben Todd toddb@gas.uug.arizona.edu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ From: The.Crimson.Ghost@spideys.com Date: 28 Jun 1996 10:26:52 EDT Subject: Misfits Sighting I was watchin the X-Treme games when I saw some BMX dude with a Fiend Club patch on his jeresy. okbye chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:59:40 PST Subject: Re: Yeah I'm Addicted From: andy van langen Brad is right; there has to be some kinda spell on the box. I just got turned on to the Misfits and now I'm hooked. I went out and spent 3 weeks pay on the coffin and its like i'm in hell(a good thing) Eerie said it best...when I want all hell to break loose, I put on a Misfits CD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:30 From: Richard Donaldson hello. Some one said something about videos of 'Fits concerts...does anyone know where I can get any of these videos...and does anyone know if the Misfits are touring in Washington, Oregon, or California...I'd really like to see them in concert.. thanks ALex ------------------------------ From: Misfits160@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:03:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #196 Ok, this is my first time ever writing to the bible so if i say anything already said, sorry. Well i'd like to talk about Glenn, whats up with him being such a prick to Jerry and Doyle when they come up to ask him to rejoin the misfits. Without the misfits Glenn wouldn't be anywhere in the music indestry. What the hell is his problem. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:59:20 -0400 (EDT) From: drodrigu@acme.highpoint.edu (Daniel Rodrigues) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #197 hey there fiends, Well D-rod here with the play by play on the 6/27 show at Hammerjacks in baltimore MD. I got together with nike and tarry caprezza from the bible, and we drove up toi MD for the fits. First I will start by saying that hammer jacks royllay fucked up with this show they did no promotion and the onlyu way I found out about this show was due to my misinterpretation of a post and calling. Also they billed the show as an Anthrax show , and gave the wrong start time for the show! So let me begin Canibal corpse openned and I am not into that stuff but I realize there are people who are, so they played a pretty good show all in all, but they were jipped cuz their fans showed up late and all to the fault of hammerjacks. We thought we were way early and walked in at the last part of their set! As for Anthrax I have to say they were quite good, some of you here will identify with me, but hearing those guys was very nostalgic. I found myself getting into their set aand singing along. And props go out to scott ian and jon bush for taking the time to bash the poor handling of the show by Hammer Jacks. Well now the Misfits they had a big huge tarp cover with the CG on it behind them. They were excellent as usuall, and tore it up. Well the show was great except for the fact that security wwere a bunch of ass holes . All I had was my shitty little camera and they shit a brick over it. The time I had taken about 6 shots and the littlest of the four grabbed my hand and tried to take it from me, so I was damned to let him get it so I pulled away and and hid it. Well a little while later I brought it out again and tokk about 4 more shots and now a bigger guy came towards me and grabbed me so I did a sweet hand off to Tarry (thanx bro) and that was tha. Fuck those assholes I was bigger than all of them one at a time I would have destroyed them. Though I dont like to fight I just use my powers for good only. The band was tight and sounded great, all except for Bullet, now the band was fine but the sound mix was all fucked up and I couldnt tell what song it was till half way thourgh but other people seemed to know what it was so maybe it was just where I was? The went smoothly until ther were 2 guys who were giving the band the finger and yelling out at them. They told the guys to come up on stage and settle it , even doyle came over to them and extended the offer, but they were to pussy to go. So the next song was Hollywood Babylon and I noticed that Michale was starring at somone and not looking to happy and it was one of the guys he right by me and Flicking off michale! So I took it upon myself to bat down his fingers and hands and started for the face. Then the asshole secyrity started grabbing me but again I got away. And than x to the one cool bouncer(mark there is a shot of him where I fucked up and missed jerry), I shook his hand after the show for being such a good guy. So I guese it is just the luck of the drawl with security I mean Winston was cool and so was Asbury park. As a matter of fact he was the only one of the boucers who looked like he could fuck shit up! the set consisted of evrything except: from SA: somekindahate, come back, angelfuck, and theme for a jackal from otherss: who killed marilyn, rattfink, she, cough cool, american nightmare, spookcity, halloween 2, and where eagles dare from EAD: EAD, wolfs blood, demonomania, hellhound, and we bite from WAU: nike, NOTLD, and brain eaters The only new songs they played were The hunger and Black light. Which was very dissapointing to me cuz I love the haunting! But the show ent greaat from there on and all were pleased. The crowd was very into it , and it was rough but not unbarable. Some highlights of the show wer during 138 a roadie came out and took the bass from jerry and played while jerry rocked the mic, he was going crazy and dove into the crowd twice, he is a very heavy guy! And michale as well did some stage diving as usuall. After the show we hung out in front of the stage but the pricks of hammer jacks wouldnt let anyone come out anmd quickly shut the place down. So we went outside and hung out with Jonathan Grimm and some spooky looking guys that were huge fiends. They were nice and we discussed allot of stuff as to why shows were being cancelled and changed. Then we went to Dave the bus driver whop is a great guy and he told us some wacky tales about th guys and some crazy stuff. Then we waited for the crowds to clear and the band to come our way. First jerry came and immediately spoted his fav fiend( I wont say who or why!). But he came over and we all talked and got some pictures with him. This was longest I had ever talked with Jerry and it was great, though it is hard to talk to him cuz he has that thick eye make up and big devilock and is always squinting without his glasses! So some things he had to say: 1. they didnt play the haunting cuz it is to fast and they dont have time to catch their breath due to the heat 2. I told him about my B-Movie Tape and he was very excited 3. He wants us to get these boots of the shows and get then to whomever so we dont get ripped off! 4.And he appreciates people sticking up for the band in tight situations wHAT A GREAT GUY and he let us take as many photos as we could and was cool to talk with again. Then Michale came out this is the third time I have had a chance to talk with him and once again I will say that he is great on and off the stage. We talked with him and he thanked me for going after that guy. some stuff he said: 1. they dont mind cammeras in his words he said"ahhh... fuck them take pictures" he even smiled in one of the photos I took when he spotted me taking one of him, as he did also at asbury park! 2. He is no longer allowed to jump into the crowd aftre hecklars and assholes they must get on stage. 3. and he has tried very hard to get on the IRC in his words" I tried to do that and figure out how to get on for 48 hrs!" I gave him instructions on how to get onto AOl that is very easy although hard top find, so you never know? And he does take a very strong interest in the internet and is reading the bibles in some way shape or form, so he knows what is going on here. 4. He is very anxious to get q's from us through mark. So yet another great show from michale, we got some pics together and was very nice , again! The whole show as great and left me with a glowing feeling to tell the world and I tell you first , so feel special! I love youguys! If you think this long I had to type it twice cuz my email deleted it! later D-Rod ------------------------------ From: Punkerdr@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:07:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #197 Hey, I love the misfits. I guess a little to much because my band has been drawing comparisons to them from a lot of people. But that's cool. I come from NJ a few towns over from where the guys grew up. I have a band called Santa's Dead. We are told we are a mix between NYC hard core and old school east bay kind of stuff. Draw comparisons to Misfits, ramones, screeching weasel. I do not mean to pitch the band but I figured that you guys would most likely be the ones to like my band. We have been around a while and have a tape being sold in stores and we will be appearing on two upcoming compilations. Tapes are one buck (covers shipping and handling) so for more info write me. - Dave Punkerdr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: MR JOSEPH F MARINO Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:16:16, -0500 Subject: It's over... What's up fiends...Just wanted to know if anyone knows if the Allentown show w/Anthrax was taped? audio or video. Thanks CG and those who came to your defense...it's over. Relax. I obviously can't compete with your greatness. You won't get another post on this subject out of me. "the blood rains down like DEVIL'S RAIN" Skulls *FYI denmom: This is where my name comes from. Although, the movie, in my opinion was insane and definitely inspirational. No matter who the fuck was in it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:20:04 PST Subject: !!!!! From: "Jay P." Who do you think would win in a fight between Glenn Danzig and Henry Rollins??? HellHound "I'm gonna get midEVIL on you ass." ------------------------------ From: tonyr29@icon.net Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:45:33 -0600 Subject: misfits? HA! FIENDS: first: i know some of you folks dont like long posts, and this one is going to be long,so if you are one of those, skip this. i've received the misfits bible for about a week now,and so far, ive heard a lot about nazism and ethnicity and generally not much worth remembering. anyhow... A QUESTION: does anyone have any samhain bootleg videos that they would be willing to dub for me were i to send them a blank vhs tape and return postage? it would be saintly and i would be eternally grateful. AN OPINION: the "misfits" in their current incarnation are not a joke. they're not even that interesting. the most entertaining thing about the "90s misfits" is the paraphenalia they try to peddle thru the fiend club. the the jerry only vinyl model kit is genius. but that is as far as it goes. the only reason to see the "misfits" in this day and age is so those of us too young to have seen the real misfits can say that we saw doyle and jerry in the flesh. the misfits' time has come and gone and it would be much better to leave the legendary misfits dead and buried and just enjoy the box set. i haven't heard the new "misfits" and i am not interested in hearing them. face it, were it not for glenn danzig's lyrics and voice the misfits would have been a schtickpunk casualty. ive read interviews w/ glennzig saying he wrote all the misfits' songs and, judging from the bootlegs i have, i beleive it. doyle and jerry could barely play their instruments, much less write a song. they looked cool though, and that was what was important. now we have the "misfits" with glenn danzigs replacement, Micheal "Graves" this guy had never even heard the misfits when he joined,and that would be fine if the "misfits" were going to do something completely different, but they're not. from what i've read in the bible the misfits perform old misfits songs live. this would seem to me to be something like a cover band. If the "misfits" now are not to be compared to the original, they shouldn't play songs from the days of yore. in doing that they are begging to be compared to the superior original misfits. w/out glennzig the misfits are all schtick and no substance. and that,fiends, is all tr has to say about that. any bites on the samhain bootlegs please mail me. thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:05:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Guero 666 Subject: 138 I give up!!!! not one more issue about the meaning of we are 138!!!!!!!! by now we all know its about peanut butter sandwiches don't we?????? hehe ------------------------------ From: Pdbedr@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 02:05:05 -0400 Subject: Im back hello Ghouls, Well I am back from vacation and boy oh boy what I have missed, lets see a bunch of nazi talk, too bad. some replies here: Mark- you are right I have been a serious Kiss fan for a long time, since I was in like 5th grade, and all I have ever wanted was a Kiss reunion. That post must have been one of those guys who just wants everything preserved like jam. Patricia- I am glad you got to see The Misfits, and I am very glad that you pointed out the only similarity Michale has to Glenn is his butt! This coming from the only person who has actually seen the Misfits with Glenn. So thank you for that. Now as for the 138 thing, if that is what Glenn told you then no one can deny that it is not true unless Glenn comes on here. And I believe you, but after seeing THX1138 I have to say maybe it is a little of both then. But you dont have to get soooo defensive if somone objects to your opinion. It seems like if somone has a valid point that is the opposition to yours you get crazy and all defensive. No one doubts you validity and if they do they are retarded. But let people disagree with you without getting all fired up! CG- I am hoping that the post you made about Mark is sarcastic. I am assuming that it is. But for now I will just respond to what you said. who cares if it comes out at 9am! Mark is only 21 and in school so maybe he has stuff to do? Not all of us work out of the house like others do, and have the time and stay up all night, I know that somtimes the bible comes out at 12am somtimes it doesnt. Relax man, somtimes I feel like if things dont go exactly as you think they should you feel they are wrong, and that my friend is wrong. If it was sarcastic then forget about the above. But as for talking about nazi's? That has no place here I mean it sooo stupid , and to quote the great ButtHead" If I wanted to learn I would go to school". If I really want the whole sha bang on Hitler I will buy a book, or subscribe to the Nazi bible! And there is countless items to discuss on the Misfits I guese you missed my 1st post. Maybe it is my AOL that scares people. Maybe some people cant see past the Black and white and can not have an original idea concerning the Misfits. Also allot of people dont take the time to read the past bibles , and that is where this stupid 138, and saved by the bell thing is! Who cares and who made you god? And I am not just sticking up for Mark cuz I think I will get some special treatment from him or kiss his ass. I wouldnt care if you went after Joe schmo for that, he is just a normal guy not a God so he deserves no ass kissing. Though he does deserve allot of credit and graditude. Why is it that when ever some one says somthing you dont like you jump all over them? I mean you are vcery cool here and I value your input, but sometimes you get so sooo nuts that you lose some integrity. And when you and Patricia go for the duel flame I mean come on. I mean somtimes oit feels like you are just trying to always escalate yourself. I am sorry but this is how I feel and maybe you agree maybe you dont, thats OK. Hepcat- the same goes for you get off CG's dick! I have seen you on the IRC and I d swear you could tell me what CG had for dinner each night. Does he have to part his legs to let go out for a walk? As far as I know when a flame goes out it is between the flamer and the flamee. As for the long posts about the shows , go ahead people . I havent had the chance to see any of these shows on the new tour and I love reading the whole nitty gritty! later hybrid child ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 23:12 PDT From: kent Subject: 138 (hee hee) & Phibes hiya, As far as '138' goes (wait!! don't scroll past!!!), doesn't everybody know that Issue #138 of the Amazing Spider Man contains the first appearance of Mind Worm??!! Think about it! It's pretty obvious, huh? And on the loosely related topic of Dr. Phibes - first, you gotta love anything with Vincent Price in it. (Yes, even 'Dr. Goldfoot and his Bikini Machine'). Secondly - One of the greatest ghoul-rock bands ever, (second only to the Fits, imho) 'The Forbidden Dimension', have an Ibanez Iceman-playing singer by the name of Jackson Phibes. Do yourself a favour and check out their stuff (they're Canadian, so you South-of-the-border types might have some trouble finding their releases - i'm willing to tape some stuff for who- ever, tho'). Besides being an incredible artist, Phibes is a big BOC fan too! Stirring Up Shit Dept. ---------------------- A few Bibles back, in her review of a Misfits show, Denmother Patricia said: > An Asian guy was front and center too, I mean a REAL Asian, with >button down collar and pocket protector, Sta-Prest slacks, the whole >thing--YELLING along with every song, a REAL fan! very cool. YIKES!!! I didn't think i'd see such ethnic stereotyping from one so wise! You'll excuse me while i hitch up my sled-dogs and head back to my igloo, we're putting up some new totem poles tonight, eh! (don't worry den-mom, i still think you're swell) "I'll be seeing you...." ...kent.. (a REAL Canadian ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Subject: bleah Misfits. San Diego. August 15th. I'm Going. okay, bye. Mike mtw4@axe.humboldt.edu ------------------------------ From: mf252888@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Baltimore I made the drive from 'ol Ohio to Baltimore to see the Misfits on thursday and again I wasn't disappointed. Met up with Drod and Bricks in DC and we headed off to the adventure at Hammerjacks. We got there and Cannibal Corpse was already on stage doing their thing. Then Anthrax came on. They made a point of saying that Baltimore wasn't what it used to be but they were going to have a good time anyway. A good point was made that, I guess Hammerjacks is going to be torn down soon and the management isn't promoting the shows like they should be. Had to agree. It's a cool place to see a show, but there weren't many people there. No PR at all that we could see. In fact we all agreed that the only way that we would have known about the show was through things said on the IRC channel or the bible. It's a shame too. The 'fits took the stage and gave a real good show. The stage was the smallest one I've seen them on yet and there weren't any risers to jump on, but nevertheless you could get close to the stage. Instead of gravitating to the right, I chose to see what seeing the 'fits were like from the left this time, so I was in front of Jerry kinda. The crowd was a lot rougher than when I had seen them in Columbus and Cleveland, but I expected that. Hehehe Midwest fiends must be the complacent ones... Mental note: There is no need to go to the gym on show days, cause I got a hell of a workout just being up front... The guys got heckled by someone and confronted him directly by telling him to come up on stage. He declined to do so. Geee there must be something rather imposing about having Doyle point directly to you and saying, "Come on up." The guy refused to budge on that one. Michale dove into the crowd once and Jerry took the mic on "We are 138", while one of the roadies (I think) played bass. Jerry dove into the crowd once from the stage and then from the speakers in front of me. Saw my life flash before my eyes, and then hoped for the best as this massive man trusted gravity and 20 people to break his fall. Needless to say, he survived. Up on the balcony sat some familiar fiends. John Grimm and Co. as well as my buddy Dave the bus driver, who treated the crowd to a bath via a super-soaker from his tactical position. Both Drod and I (and I think Bricks got a bit of a shower too) were severely doused with water, but it was welcome because I was hot as hell! After the show we went out to the busses where everyone was waiting for the bands and talked to John for a bit. I met up with Dave again and we all hung out waiting for the crowds to disperse so we could talk with the 'fits. Jerry spots us after a while and waltzes over with a big smile. I think Jerry smiles way too much to be trusted... ;) He gives me a huge bear hug and asks us if we had a good time. Then we BS'ed for a while and took some pictures. Michale came over in his Rangers jersey and talked with Drod about getting on the IRC and I asked him if he played hockey or was just a fan. He said he plays and loves it. Doyle and Chud were around talking to people so we didn't rally get to talk. That's much of the highlights. I am going to see them again tomorrow, sunday in Pittsburgh. I had thought that this show was canceled, but Jerry said no, and he's the man who would know...so... Sorry to the fiends who have been informed otherwise, some of you who are on the IRC I have tried to tell. More on that show prolly on Mon? Btw, funny reactions you get when you yell out to a group of people, "Hey who's on the Bible here?!" I think some show-goers thought we were some strange christian cult the way they looked at us. But there were one or two people who knew what we meant. *laugh* later ^nike^ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jun 96 11:00 EDT From: Jcrunch@po.fast.net (Johnny Crunch) Subject: Re: Misfits Bible, #197 Wow. Saw the Misfits at Roseland. Killer show. Got the meet the guys afterword (first time for that) and they were real cool. I still think the Stone Pony gig was better, but its a smaller club and they were in the best form. They did the usual opening of Halloween and then just kicked ass none stop for close to and hour. Pretty much heard everything I wanted to hear excpet for Nike which they didnt do this time around, but hey, I aint complaining. Saw Sal B there. I think it was him who came out in a Crimson Ghost mask to play bass during 138 while Jerry sang and stage dived for a while. It was funny seeing this huge guy just landing on people. The crowd was cool. You'd think there be fights but everyone was real cool. Not like Allentown. Who'd figure .. you go to NYC and see well behaved punks and you go to PA and the assholes come out of the woodwork .. Waited over an hour after the show to meet them with my buddy. Doyle popped his head out for a minute, then went back into the club. About 20 minutes later, Jerry came, signed a bunch of shit, told him we were with the bible and he was like "cool. put out a review!". He split pretty quick. There families were there that night and it looked like he had alot going on. Met Chud next. I didnt know it was him at first cause I could never seem him behind those drums. He was real cool. We bullshitted for few minutes, got shit signed. Michael came out next. He was talking with a bunch of fiends, taking pictures and all that. He dove off the 20 foot PA during the show. It was nuts. Then we met Doyle. He was very cool. I talked to him more than anyone else. He didnt see shy like I've read in previous posts. We talked about his guitars, what pickups and amps he uses, etc. REally cool guy. The wait was well worth it, but paying the $31 to park blew! Thats it! Next shows for me, Asbury Park again next month and then the homecoming at Action Park. Its gonna be an all day show outdoors up there, which should be killer. I'm hoping to get the DAT in for that one. Johnny Crunch (usually posting as AZ from work!) > Hit Paydirt With KDirt! ------------------------------ From: salvator@plan-9.com Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: A review for your web page I went to see the misfits on may 30th in Allentown PA at a place called starz nite club. Boy did that show suck. It started out ok, but half way through the misfits show skinheads went on a rampage! It was hell! Jerry stopped playing and asked that the lights be turned on. Jerry and micheal started yelling at the skinheads to stop, then the band just stopped, and walked off stage. I waited around for a while untill jerry and Mike came back out and got off stage. Jerry appologized to a group of us for cutting the show off early, but we said we understand. This was the third misfits show I've been to on this tour, And I hope to see many more. SAL Email: salvator@zombie.plan-9.com ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 21:44:42 -0400 Subject: MIsfits/NYC The Misfits were great last night. Although the show seemed to be short (Jerry said something about a curfew they had to meet) it was great. They seemed to be having equipment problems though. Michale's vocals were a bit garbled behind the blare of the guitars. The crowd up in front of the stage was alive but those around the edges seemed a bit dead. Maybe they were there to see Cannibal Corpse and not the Misfits. Michale had painted a skull on his face which was a nice touch. Needless to say, after about three songs, the make-up was sliding down his cheeks. I can't remember the set list but they were mostly "Walk Among Us" songs with others thrown in. I was glad they played "Bloodfeast" which is one of my personal favorites. Michale seems to be getting a bit more experience under his belt. During "Violent World" during "Nazi demons, Nazi youth" he raised his arm in salute and marched around, a move that I thought was pretty funny. Michale jumped into the crowd quite a few times, once from a top a stack of speakers that was maybe ten feet off the stage, fifteen feet off the floor. Jerry even dove into the crowd two or three times. During "138", he ditched his bass and dove head first off the left side of the stage into the crowd, got back onto the stage, and then jumped off the right side of the stage. It was great. It was a sight, a guy as big as Jerry is, decked out in these monster boots, diving into a crowd like it was a pool. He looked to be having a great time. Doyle was running all over the stage. Leaning over the stage and shouting into the fans faces. Once again, Chud remained hidden until the show was over. As they finished up the last song ("Die, Die ..."), Jerry got down on one knee and, with his bass behind his head and across his shoulders, made a pose that had to be out of "Conan the Barbarian". You couldn't really hang around inside the place for autographs afterward because the security guards were busy pushing wooden divider horses into you but I did manage to get Chud's on a blow up I had made of the promo photos they were selling at the boxed set signing. All in all, it was a great show. They keep getting better and better. And I seem to like Michale more and more each time I see him. He's not Glenn but why should he be? He's himself, Michale Graves. Once you get over that you can just enjoy the show and stop all the comparisons. Where Glenn seemed like a little monster up on stage, like "Wolverine", shaking around and snapping back and forth, Michale seems, keeping with the monster analogy, more like a vampire than a werewolf. Anyway, this just my opinion so those who don't agree, don't get all bent out of shape. If you don't like the new Misfits, that's all well and good. But it won't make me or anyone else change our minds. I myself like it ALL. I like the old Misfits, the NEW Misfits, I like Samhain, I like the old Danzig, and I'll probably like the new Danzig when he comes out with it. But that's just me. If you've been holding back from seeing the Misfits recently, you're really missing a great show though, whether you agree with the "Resurrection" or not ... - BILE666. P.S. -- If anyone has an extra copy of that magazine/comic they'd been selling on tour, please e-mail me because I'd really like to get one and they didn't have any for sale last night ... ------------------------------ From: Bile666@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:58:12 -0400 Subject: MARS ATTACKS! Before the boxed set signing last Feb. during the Bible meeting, I remember Jerry telling a story about how he had sent either one of the boxed sets or one of the albums to Tim Burton to listen to upon hearing the news of his upcoming film "Mars Attacks!". Jerry called Tim or vice-versa and Tim told him that he liked their music but wasn't sure if he could use it in the film. If you've ever seen him in an interview, Tim Burton is very quirky and withdrawn (I guess you'd call it) and this must not have fit in well with Jerry's "HEY THERE!!!" uptone personality because Jerry seemed a bit put off at Tim's uncertainty. All in all, I don't think there'll be a Misfits song gracing the film's soundtrack. I don't even know if the conversation took place before or after Jerry came up with the song "Mars Attacks!". I like the concept of the song, think it fits perfectly in with the Misfits' whole look, persona, etc, and would love to hear it but I think the ending seems a bit weird, what with referances to "God" and what not. The original cards that inspired both the film and the song weren't about God. They were about seeing dogs getting disintegrated by a Martian's blaster while a little boy looks on in horror. The whole God thing seems like a throw back in a way to Jerry's writing style for Kryst the Conqueror. But anyway, that's a bit more on the whole Misfits/ "Mars Attacks!" connection ... - BILE666. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:17:21 -0700 (MST) From: Ben Todd Subject: Just a thought or two Hey fiends, I hope everyone voted for their favorite T-shirt design. In other news, here's something I thought you guys might dig. I read it in an old book called "The Book of Hallowe'en." This is a poem from a person named Coxe. The poem is called "Hallowe'en": "There is a world in which we dwell, And yet a world invisible. And do not think that naught can be Save only what with eyes ye see: I tell ye that, this very hour, Had but your sight a sprit's power, Ye would be looking,eye to eye, At a terrific company." My friend Mike and I were discussing this and find it to be very interesting. What do y'all think? Also, in the book, it infers that the Celtic equivalent is something called "Summerland." Is this true, or did I misinterpret the ambiguous text? Just curious because there is a song called "Summerland" and that would give it a whole new meaning, or at least a deeper one. All is well in the desert hell, Ben(ito) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) "Practice random kindness and senseless acts of brutality." Ben Todd toddb@gas.uug.arizona.edu >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:26:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Denmother Patricia Subject: prejudiced? moi? hey fiends, I got this privately emailed to me, and I wanted to say something about it. I assume since it was sent to me at my address rather than responded to on the Bible the gentle soul who wrote me didnt want the world to know his/her thoughts as regards me....and I guess the others who actually post to the Bible regularly..... >>>>>>>>>>my correspondent said............ i just wanted to ask you about something in yr last post to the bible.................................................... Yr saying that i'm prejudiced? I also object to the insinuation that I'm an asshole...I do enjoy the bible every once in a while to read if i have the time, but the threat of being ganged up on or whatever would prevent me to post anything in the future...(this is probably why there are about 700 people on the mailing list and only 20 or so).---this is the end-- --who post, I assume my writer means. Gosh, This is TERRRRIBLE as Wood-Yi would say ;) I had originally planned to apologize to the author of this letter for "insinuating" that he or she was an asshole, thats not what i said, what i said to Franz was that by and large AMERICANS are assholes. Being an American, thats incriminating myself, isnt it, Franz? But more importantly, I was distressed that this person would think that because when someone--anyone, even my beloved, CrimsonGhost, says something foolish or outrageous they might be responded to in a less than positive way, and that would FRIGHTEN Bible subscribers off from posting their own valuable opinions! Is this TRUE? can it be that 700+ of you who NEVER post anything are a bunch of timid mice? I dont think so. If so, what is the reason few responded to the Get To KNow You issue? or to the current projects, the Bible Tshirt and the Misfits Bible Calendar? are you afraid if you sent in your date of birth I would tease you about it? (shaking head in confusion,sitting back in rocking chair and chewing on straw) I just wasnt made for these here times..... --- and so forth. Happy Birthday to Joe Franke,and also Glenn's fave artist to borrow from in the Danzig years, Willie "The Hunter"Dixon (may he RIP) also....hey Mark! In 100 years, I will be 138 yrs old! do you think thats what the song is about? :) calm down! just kidding....hey, I can take it as well as dish it out. Dont forget to celebrate July 4 with a little dignified vomiting on a famous persons shoes, the way Bobby Steele did in 1979.... bye bye, buy bonds; patricia ragan hoehner nrwidow@magicnet.net Denmother Fiendtroop #138 you can run but you can't hide on the Operators Manual http://www.planet.net/CrimsonGhost/om have another one, (urp) ::Datskat:: I am having a mullet wig made so i can wear it backwards for a devilock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:42:24 -0500 From: tes777@bridge.net (Tammy S.) Subject: It's over... Hey to all you fiends- well i guess most of you are on the edge of your seats waiting to hear who won this crazy art contest. Well it was, now should i tell you now or make you wait till the t-shirts come out. I'll tell you now, Greg Petre won with 21 votes all together, and his last vote came from the last person i though would vote for him and that was Ben Todd, Ben your the greatest!!! in order of the number of votes received: Greg - 21 John - 15 Danial - 11 Ben - 8 Bile - 5 Bjorn - 4 Robert - 4 Brad - 4 Jay - 4 Adam - 2 Opus - 1 and that is all she wrote. 78 votes in total. Last votes were CANIS and Michael H Maar . I guess not a bad deal a little under the number of bios for the get to know you issue but maybe one day we will actually hear from the 778+ that are Bible Members. All i can hope is that is the number of replies we get when it comes time to order the t-shirts. Congratulations goes out to Greg who i have already contacted, and he one lucky guy who will also have his art on the Bible calendar also. I promise to keep all of you up to date with how things are going with the t-shirt and when they will be available. Also to everyone who was concern about the back of the shirt and the logo. The logo was designed quite awhile ago and i did take your suggestions into concideration when i designed it. So don't freak out the logo does have the bible, URL, and e-mail addresses. Again thank you to all of you who came to vote and especially to all the artists who submitted a design!!! Great work guys. Oh one more, thanks to Ethan Kennedy for the originally suggesting the T-shirt idea and he did vote, so did Bobby. Well i did have one thing i needed to post after this pure month of insanity. I have several thank you's that have to go out. 1) to Mark for giving me the honor to run this crazy contest. 2) to Denmother Patricia for all the help of spreading the word where i didn't reach. 3) to all the artists who sent in their art for this contest. 4) to John Grimm for all his help and suggestions during the first half before the voting and congrats on second place!!! 5) to Bobby for listening to me bitch about the voting for the past couple weeks and i know you were busy thanks for taking the time to vote. 6) to Andrew Zipp for the patients of a saint with the mail and the voting stuff. 7) to Ben Todd - for voting with a good heart and sound mind, by the way i did like you piece also. 8) to all of you who came to vote even with me screaming in your eyes for the past couple of weeks. 9) to the Misfits for letting us do this for the Bible members. thanks everyone this has been one hell of a month. Later to all you fiends and be waiting for the next event!?! WHo knows what i'll come up with next. TES777 ------------------------------------- To contribute to the next issue, please send email to: misfits@virginia.edu For more information, contact Mark Kennedy at: msk4m@watt.seas.virginia.edu For answers to almost all questions, please check The Misfits World Wide Web page before posting, located at: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~msk4m/ The Misfits mailing address is: Misfits Fiend Club | P.O. Box 310 | Vernon, NJ 07462 For more info on the #misfits IRC channel, visit: http://www.localnet.com/~angstboy/misfit.html The views expressed here are those of the individual authors only. 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Fonts and theme assorted ramblings She Demo roselands, my trip to nyc What dya know your pretty self conscious too Michales Comes Clean bobby and his $ Re: Misfits Bible, #198 WE ARE 138 just a little note from the denmama-san oops By that young man a dictionary... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChristoTer@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:39:36 -0400 Subject: Tapes Fiends, As of Friday, July 5, I will be out of town for about a week. Therefore, if you send me an order for tapes, it will probably actually take the 2-3 weeks that's listed on the page as opposed to a few days. Also, obviously, if you e-mail me I will be unable to respond. For those of you who are new and don't know about this. I am offering to tape shows for 5 bucks per 90 minutes.....$10 for 180, $20 for 360, etc etc etc. My list of shows that include approximate times (I've begun to notice that the times listed are a bit long, so most people get a bonus short show with each tape) is on the page on the News section under "live tapes available", and I think I'm also under the "Collectors" section.. Also, I've been inquired as to how do people know I am good for this? If someone who has dealt with me in the past is willing to be a reference for me, please e-mail me. Let's see, Will and Bjorn, your tapes are in the mail. Franz, I got your cash, and yours are going out today or tomorrow. David Debye, please e-mail me asap, I've got some good news for you. Also, I auctioned off a shirt a while back. The guy who bid 9 bucks....I forgot/lost your name, so I didn't get a chance to e-mail you. You got it, so e-mail me and we'll work this out. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 13:51:17 -0400 From: Brent Christopher Eyestone Subject: winners! Hi - Congratulations to Dave Asselin and Jackal for being the first two with the correct responses to the video contest. Most everyone who entrered got the right answer, but again, I only had two copies left. I've held on to all the other entries in the event that Dave and Jackal don't claim their videos... To all the fiends who still need their own copies, fear not, I'm sure more will be available rather soon. Just keep reading T.M.B. - Brent. "You want to laugh like they laugh, well go ahead and laugh your face off faker, just be sure to leave me home..." ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:00:04 +0200 Subject: shirts Thank you Tammy for your great (loud) organization skills. and thank you to all the fiends who voted for me.. one thing though. 78 votes? that's all? that's only 10%of this list... i hope more people speak up when it comes down to the actual printing of the shirts.. I welcome all suggestions, BTW, on refining my picture. thanks again. -greg petre *** Talk to me over the 'Net! *** Iphone address: Dorin@pub1.ipn.vocaltec.com ------------------------------ From: "Dorin M. Petre" Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:02:45 +0200 Subject: ben todd ben todd, yer a goof... :) -greg *** Talk to me over the 'Net! *** Iphone address: Dorin@pub1.ipn.vocaltec.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:18:33 -0400 From: Crimson Ghost Subject: last issue --->From: AZawodny@mobile.bam.com >I've tried connecting to IRC several times last night (thurs 6/27) but could >not connect. I dont know if the server was at capacity or what but could not >get on to save my life. I finally gave up around 12:30. Well its 10:00am now, IRC, Undernet in particular, has been *very* busy for the last few months. For some reason all of a sudden UNet went from about 7-8k users/night to 11-13k per night. The lag time is unbelievable, that's assuming that you can even get on in the first place. A few of us are currently bashing our heads together to come up with an alternative for undernet, but for the time being we just have to deal... >I'm sitting on my desk at work knowing that in 12 hours, the 'fits will be >kicking ass at Roseland! I'll have a belly full of Cluck-U wings (the best >wings ever!!!) and I'll be ready to rock! hehehe -- Atomics or Thermo-nukes???? Yes!!! they are the best, and they fucking deliver!! --->MR JOSEPH F MARINO >CG and those who came to your defense...it's over. Relax. I >obviously can't compete with your greatness. You won't get another >post on this subject out of me. That's about the type of response I expected from you. Sarcasm noted and ignored... --->Pdbedr@aol.com >CG- I am hoping that the post you made about Mark is sarcastic. I am >assuming that it is. But for now I will just respond to what you said. who >cares if it comes out at 9am! Mark is only 21 a.....---clip---- Of course it's sarcastic! Mark is my friend and has been for quite some time now (pre-bible). Mark just felt that people on the bible consider him beyond reproach and I think he wants to be made part of some of these arguments. So basically if you think Mark is wrong about something let him know, he's perfectly capable of defending himself. I was just giving him a friendly poke in the ribs. --->kent